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Nevada is often cited as a state where Republicans doomed themselves by their failure to fully embrace amnesty for Hispanic undocumented workers. After all, George W. Bush won Nevada 51-48 in 2004, but Mitt Romney lost it 46-52 in 2012. This proves that the Rising Tide of Hispanics votes solely on Immigration Reform and punishes Republicans for their racism, which can only be redeemed by giving undocumented workers immigration reform. (This is more or less the official position of both parties’ leaderships.)

A revisionist history of Nevada’s political evolution in the 21st Century, in contrast, would cite the impact of Bush’s Housing Bubble of 2003-2006 and the Housing Bust of 2008, in which Nevada played a key role as one of the four Sand States of the Big Short. Thus John McCain lost Nevada in 2008 43-55 despite having been co-sponsor with Ted Kennedy of the 2006 amnesty bill. Why? Because Bush inflating the housing market helped him at the polls in 2004 but backfired terribly on his party in 2008 (and 2012).

Las Vegas’s default crisis of 2008 continues to reverberate in 2016 in odd ways. For example, from Yahoo News:

Foreclosure crisis snarls Clinton, Sanders’ efforts to reach Nevada voters

Reuters
By Luciana Lopez
February 14, 2016

(Reuters) – Democratic presidential hopefuls Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are flooding Nevada with volunteers ahead of this week’s key nominating contest but they face a problem – the addresses, phone numbers and other personal data they need to reach many voters are out of date.

Nevada, which is more than a quarter Latino, was one of the states worst affected by the 2008 financial meltdown, with hundreds of thousands of families unable to pay their mortgages and forced to move in a crisis that by some estimates hit minorities twice as hard as whites.

With the foreclosed homes often switching hands multiple times – from homeowner to bank to investor and back to another homeowner in just a few years – keeping up with voters who at some point lived in those homes is difficult.

The Nevada Democratic caucus on Feb. 20 has emerged as an unusually important test of Sanders’ and Clinton’s political strength. Clinton is under pressure to keep her wide lead among Latinos, while Sanders must erode it to show he has a path to the nomination that does not rely mainly on the young white voters who make up the core of his support base.

“This ongoing (foreclosure) crisis makes reaching potential voters more difficult,” Sanders’ campaign said in a statement emailed to Reuters. The Clinton campaign said the voter lists supplied by the Democratic Party needed “significantly” more work to update, forcing them to spend valuable canvassing time building up their own private data.

Las Vegas, Nevada’s biggest city, has seen some of the country’s highest foreclosure rates since 2008, hitting No. 1 among more than 200 U.S. metro areas from 2009 to 2011, according to RealtyTrac, a provider of real estate data and analytics. Even now, the city and its surrounding area rank No. 17.

Data that might have been corrected in the 2012 general election has, in many cases, already fallen out of date again because the Nevada housing market has continued to see wave after wave of foreclosures, the campaigns said. …

Latinos make up almost 32 percent of Las Vegas. …

There hasn’t been enough polling in Nevada recently to show who is ahead among Latinos. But nationally Clinton has the advantage: Among Latinos who describe themselves as Democrats, 54 percent support Clinton and 37 percent back Sanders, according to Reuters/Ipsos polling from Oct. 1 to Feb. 12.

But who can remember back all the way to 2008?

 
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  1. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Donald Trump Slams Romney ‘Self-Deportation’ Comment – ABC News

    Trump also told the site that Romney’s suggestion that people “self-deport” gave Hispanics the impression that Republicans do not care about them.

    “He had a crazy policy of self-deportation, which was maniacal,” Trump said. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/donald-trump-slams-romney-deportation-comment/story?id=17814473

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    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    Thanks for the information. I will definitely not vote for Trump now. I will vote for any one of the other republicans or democrats that will surely protect us from further mass immigration. Now if you would kindly point out whom that is....
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  2. And here is what the Spanish, not the Hispanic can do:

    F*cking Europeans, creating beauty everywhere you look.

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  3. Ed says:

    “After all, George W. Bush won Nevada 51-48 in 2004, but Mitt Romney lost it 46-52 in 2012. ”

    These percentages match the national percentages almost exactly.

    I went to the David Leip atlas and looked up the percentages of the vote Republican presidential candidates received in Nevada going back to 1976, when Ford carried the state while losing to Jimmy Carter nationally.

    The last three elections three elections where Nevada was not carried by the national popular vote winner were 2000 (Bush), 1976 (Ford), and 1908 (Bryan). I didn’t bother looking earlier.

    These are the percentages of how well the Republican candidate’s popular vote percentage in Nevada exceeded his popular vote percentage nationally:

    2012: 0 Romney
    2008: -4 McCain
    2004: 0 GW Bush
    2000: 1 GW Bush
    1996: 2 Dole
    1992: -3 GHW Bush
    1988: 5 GHW Bush
    1984: 7 Reagan
    1980: 12 Reagan
    1976: 2 Ford

    Generally, Nevada votes close to the national average. The Republicans over-performed in the 1980s, probably due to the sagebrush rebellion and the Carter energy policy. They under-performed in 1992, due to Perot, and 2008, probably due to the mortgage meltdown as Steve noted.

    Nevada politics has probably been changed by immigrants, but the immigrants in question are native born Americans, who have flooded into the state from everywhere else in the country. They have made Nevada’s partisan preferences mirror that of the rest of the country.

    I am probably naive, but I’m not sure how much illegal immigrants, who are ineligible to vote by definition, can be a big factor in elections. Maybe Democratic machines in some places can get them to the polls, paying the immigrants to vote and pollworkers to look the other way, but in that case is it really a viable Republican strategy to try to get in on the action?

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    • Replies: @iSteveFan

    I am probably naive, but I’m not sure how much illegal immigrants, who are ineligible to vote by definition, can be a big factor in elections.
     
    First, as you pointed out I am sure a not too insignificant number of them vote. Second, even if they don't vote and are not citizens or even legal residents, they contribute to the census numbers and thus alter some states' electoral votes at the expense of other states. So if illegals congregate in a state that leans democrat, it could provide more electoral votes for the dems.
  4. I’m just trying to imagine Mexicans caucusing like Iowans and Minnesotans.

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    • Replies: @Bastion
    Are you thinking more, or less, random gunplay?
  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Man, those demographix are insane. 25% of the state and 1/3 of Vegas.

    And all accomplished overnight historically speaking.

    And of course the economy there has never been worse. The Mexican Labor Magic Elixir is TOTAL NONSENSE.

    Questions for the Bush family:

    Why isn’t China importing Mexicans to cure their current economic slowdown?

    What ails the Iraq economy? Obviously a dearth of Mexicans.

    European central banks are doing negative interest rates because the economy is so bad. Why not just get 30,000,000 Mexicans over there asap to rejuvenate the place?

    Why why why why why?

    Why can’t you racists see the value of Amerind ingenuity?

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    • Replies: @anon
    Exactly. We can all see what a paradise Mexico is.
  6. iSteveFan says:
    @Anonymous
    Donald Trump Slams Romney 'Self-Deportation' Comment - ABC News

    Trump also told the site that Romney's suggestion that people "self-deport" gave Hispanics the impression that Republicans do not care about them.

    "He had a crazy policy of self-deportation, which was maniacal," Trump said. "It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country."

    http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/donald-trump-slams-romney-deportation-comment/story?id=17814473

    Thanks for the information. I will definitely not vote for Trump now. I will vote for any one of the other republicans or democrats that will surely protect us from further mass immigration. Now if you would kindly point out whom that is….

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  7. Bastion says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    I'm just trying to imagine Mexicans caucusing like Iowans and Minnesotans.

    Are you thinking more, or less, random gunplay?

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  8. iSteveFan says:
    @Ed
    "After all, George W. Bush won Nevada 51-48 in 2004, but Mitt Romney lost it 46-52 in 2012. "

    These percentages match the national percentages almost exactly.

    I went to the David Leip atlas and looked up the percentages of the vote Republican presidential candidates received in Nevada going back to 1976, when Ford carried the state while losing to Jimmy Carter nationally.

    The last three elections three elections where Nevada was not carried by the national popular vote winner were 2000 (Bush), 1976 (Ford), and 1908 (Bryan). I didn't bother looking earlier.

    These are the percentages of how well the Republican candidate's popular vote percentage in Nevada exceeded his popular vote percentage nationally:

    2012: 0 Romney
    2008: -4 McCain
    2004: 0 GW Bush
    2000: 1 GW Bush
    1996: 2 Dole
    1992: -3 GHW Bush
    1988: 5 GHW Bush
    1984: 7 Reagan
    1980: 12 Reagan
    1976: 2 Ford

    Generally, Nevada votes close to the national average. The Republicans over-performed in the 1980s, probably due to the sagebrush rebellion and the Carter energy policy. They under-performed in 1992, due to Perot, and 2008, probably due to the mortgage meltdown as Steve noted.

    Nevada politics has probably been changed by immigrants, but the immigrants in question are native born Americans, who have flooded into the state from everywhere else in the country. They have made Nevada's partisan preferences mirror that of the rest of the country.

    I am probably naive, but I'm not sure how much illegal immigrants, who are ineligible to vote by definition, can be a big factor in elections. Maybe Democratic machines in some places can get them to the polls, paying the immigrants to vote and pollworkers to look the other way, but in that case is it really a viable Republican strategy to try to get in on the action?

    I am probably naive, but I’m not sure how much illegal immigrants, who are ineligible to vote by definition, can be a big factor in elections.

    First, as you pointed out I am sure a not too insignificant number of them vote. Second, even if they don’t vote and are not citizens or even legal residents, they contribute to the census numbers and thus alter some states’ electoral votes at the expense of other states. So if illegals congregate in a state that leans democrat, it could provide more electoral votes for the dems.

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    • Replies: @markm
    Hello? They reproduce and in due time their children vote. They have numbered in the tens of millions for long enough for their offspring to start influencing elections.
  9. Daniel H says:

    One data point to give you an idea of how ridiculous the Las Vegas housing market was. I moved here in 2011. Bought a house from the bank in a nice part of town for 105K that was only 4 years old. The house was sold brand new to some hispanic family in 2007 for 345K. Of course they walked away from the mortgage. I would have too. I guess I should thank George Bush for my financial coup, but I won’t.

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    • Replies: @Formerly CARealist
    Cool deal, Daniel. But I'm guessing that the house needed 100k worth of work. No matter what market I've bought in over the years, cheap houses always had major problems and abiding ugliness.

    Plus, beauty in Las Vegas is pretty hard to come by.
  10. Hugo Chavez relied, for votes and more, on people who not only lacked an official address but were squatting in encampments on the unfinished floors of unfinished highrise buildings.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/emptying-out-the-tower-of-david-2

    Sanders should have his people talk to Chavez’s (successor’s) people, to learn how it’s done.

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  11. markm says:
    @iSteveFan

    I am probably naive, but I’m not sure how much illegal immigrants, who are ineligible to vote by definition, can be a big factor in elections.
     
    First, as you pointed out I am sure a not too insignificant number of them vote. Second, even if they don't vote and are not citizens or even legal residents, they contribute to the census numbers and thus alter some states' electoral votes at the expense of other states. So if illegals congregate in a state that leans democrat, it could provide more electoral votes for the dems.

    Hello? They reproduce and in due time their children vote. They have numbered in the tens of millions for long enough for their offspring to start influencing elections.

    Read More
  12. @Bill Jones
    And here is what the Spanish, not the Hispanic can do:

    https://youtu.be/87qT5BOl2XU

    F*cking Europeans, creating beauty everywhere you look.

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  13. Keith Vaz says:

    I live in England so am unfamiliar with Hispanics. How does White-Hisp interrace work? Like Asian (WM-AW) or blacks (BM-WW)?

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    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    Really depends on how Euro the "Hispanic" woman or man is. The more Euro and less Amerind, generally, the more attractive.
    , @AndrewR
    Hispanic isn't a race.

    Male Hispanics tend to marry non-Hispanics at the same rate female Hispanics do.
    , @Hipster
    There isn't the gender disparity like with Asians or Blacks. Hispanic Men and Women intermarry with whites at about the same rate.
  14. @Daniel H
    One data point to give you an idea of how ridiculous the Las Vegas housing market was. I moved here in 2011. Bought a house from the bank in a nice part of town for 105K that was only 4 years old. The house was sold brand new to some hispanic family in 2007 for 345K. Of course they walked away from the mortgage. I would have too. I guess I should thank George Bush for my financial coup, but I won't.

    Cool deal, Daniel. But I’m guessing that the house needed 100k worth of work. No matter what market I’ve bought in over the years, cheap houses always had major problems and abiding ugliness.

    Plus, beauty in Las Vegas is pretty hard to come by.

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  15. Thanks to Bill Jones for the stirring clip of the Ode to Joy in Catalonia. The sight of all those happy little kids clapping and jumping around is heartwarming. Bill’s comment, “F*cking Europeans, creating beauty everywhere you look,” brings to mind the online series This Is Europa. It celebrates the beauty and grandeur of the old continent, from Russia to Scotland to Italy and Spain–glorious achievements that are being lost as traitors like Merkel and her ilk destroy what their ancestors created.

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  16. @Keith Vaz
    I live in England so am unfamiliar with Hispanics. How does White-Hisp interrace work? Like Asian (WM-AW) or blacks (BM-WW)?

    Really depends on how Euro the “Hispanic” woman or man is. The more Euro and less Amerind, generally, the more attractive.

    Read More
  17. AndrewR says:
    @Keith Vaz
    I live in England so am unfamiliar with Hispanics. How does White-Hisp interrace work? Like Asian (WM-AW) or blacks (BM-WW)?

    Hispanic isn’t a race.

    Male Hispanics tend to marry non-Hispanics at the same rate female Hispanics do.

    Read More
  18. Hipster says:
    @Keith Vaz
    I live in England so am unfamiliar with Hispanics. How does White-Hisp interrace work? Like Asian (WM-AW) or blacks (BM-WW)?

    There isn’t the gender disparity like with Asians or Blacks. Hispanic Men and Women intermarry with whites at about the same rate.

    Read More
  19. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Man, those demographix are insane. 25% of the state and 1/3 of Vegas.

    And all accomplished overnight historically speaking.

    And of course the economy there has never been worse. The Mexican Labor Magic Elixir is TOTAL NONSENSE.

    Questions for the Bush family:

    Why isn't China importing Mexicans to cure their current economic slowdown?

    What ails the Iraq economy? Obviously a dearth of Mexicans.

    European central banks are doing negative interest rates because the economy is so bad. Why not just get 30,000,000 Mexicans over there asap to rejuvenate the place?

    Why why why why why?

    Why can't you racists see the value of Amerind ingenuity?

    Exactly. We can all see what a paradise Mexico is.

    Read More

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