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From France24:

Netanyahu says African migrants worse threat than jihadists

20 March 2018 – 17H40

DIMONA (ISRAEL) (AFP) – Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday that an electronic fence along the Israel-Egypt border has saved the Jewish state from jihadist attacks or what he believes would be worse — a tide of African migrants.

“Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,” Netanyahu’s office quoted him as telling a development conference in the southern Israel desert town of Dimona.

The interior ministry says there are currently some 42,000 African migrants in Israel, mainly from Sudan and Eritrea, and the government has ordered that thousands of them must leave or face indefinite imprisonment. …

The frontier with Israel’s Negev desert has since been given a 200-kilometre (124 mile) hi-tech fence and the influx has halted.

Netanyahu said a tide of non-Jewish immigration would threaten the very fabric of Israel.

“We are talking about a Jewish and democratic state, but how could we assure a Jewish and democratic state with 50,000 and then 100,000 and 150,000 migrants a year,” Netanyahu said.

“After a million, 1.5 million, we might as well shut up shop,” he added. “We did not close down, we built a fence.”

 
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  1. Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

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    • Replies: @istevefan

    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.
     
    Who says you are?
    , @larry lurker
    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her - something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn't telling her anything she didn't already know or at least suspect.
    , @Dmitry
    I don't see anything as 'racial' to do with it. I am anti-racist, and can still see the problems.

    Situation in Israel is just fucked with the illegal immigrants.

    I was there (not for my first time) last month, and have explored areas which feel like you are in Sudan, where whole parts of Tel Aviv are only living Sudanese Muslims.

    I don't know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    And you can see the kind of legal issues they have, with their ultra-liberal system:

    ‘Can illegal immigrant get legal status by committing rape?’

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243226
     
    , @silviosilver

    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.
     
    More like, another Jew who puts Jews first. Nothing rare about that at all.
    , @Joe Walker
    Jews are race-realists when it comes to Israel and Jewish interests. It is only gentiles who are expected to buy into the diversity-is-strength nonsense.
    , @John Gruskos
    Is Netanyahu's race realism rare, or do elite diaspora Jews (Boas, Gould etc.) tell deliberate lies to demoralize the host nation and thus gain ethnic advantage?
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  2. Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

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    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    The senior management of Toys-R-Us Isreal didn't pile on the debt so high that the cash flow wouldn't service it, thus forcing the company into bankruptcy liquidation - thus allowing the same senior management team or their associates to buy up all the pieces for pennies on the shekel and spin off the rest to the suckers who bought the bonds?
    , @Anonymous
    According to the web, there are 26 Toys-R-Us stores in Israel and 161 in Japan, so birthrate can't be the determining factor.
    , @International Jew
    Israel is giving US military technology to China, in exchange for access to the hottest new toys? Is that the right answer?
    , @snorlax
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Dollarnote_siegel_hq.jpg/476px-Dollarnote_siegel_hq.jpg
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    … and none of them are closing. Guess why.
     
    Because Geoffrey hijacked the launch codes?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/business/2017/09/19/hqdefault_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqEDjTm7JpzhSGR1_8ApEWQA1vLvhkMtVb21dMmpQBfEs.jpg
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    Mitt Romney?

    But in all due seriousness, this is the 2nd toy chain that has been sunk by Bain Capital. KB Toys was also destroyed by a Bain-driven leveraged buyout. Those guys are like real-life Grinches.
    , @Merema
    Israelis are still having kids...hence toys.
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  3. @Dov
    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    Who says you are?

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    • Replies: @bartok
    Never Forget ... that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.
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  4. Netanyahu said a tide of non-Jewish immigration would threaten the very fabric of Israel.

    B-b-b-but…don’t they know diversity makes them stronger?

    And think of all the awesome new ethnic restaurants!

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    No need , they already know how to make kebabs in Israel........
    , @Joe Walker
    Netanyahu is obviously an anti-Semitic, white Christian supremacist.
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  5. @countenance
    Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

    The senior management of Toys-R-Us Isreal didn’t pile on the debt so high that the cash flow wouldn’t service it, thus forcing the company into bankruptcy liquidation – thus allowing the same senior management team or their associates to buy up all the pieces for pennies on the shekel and spin off the rest to the suckers who bought the bonds?

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    Yes, I read that Mitt Romney's friends at Bain Capital played a sigmificant role in the demise of Toys R Us. Bain convinced them to take on the unsustainable debt load.
    , @TheJester
    As they usually are, the leveraged buyout and massive debt it could not service was the fatal flaw that doomed Toys-R-US in the United States.

    David Stockman has a beautiful expose on the mechanics of leveraged buyouts in his book, "The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America". He explains how Wall Street engineered leveraged buyouts of car company suppliers that doomed the original General Motors and Chrysler ... should anyone remember that fiasco.

    As Stockman explains, the new buyers borrow money to buy companies, make a killing on fees, sell company assets to Wall Street holding companies and lease them back ... and then the massive debt for all of this falls on the companies. The companies become "debt zombies" devoid of assets while what used to be profit now services Wall Street-owned debt. A slight downturn in the economy and the companies are history.

    Wall Street's justification is that massive debt is good for companies and the country because it makes the economy more efficient. Companies and C-level officers faced with massive debt have to work harder and smarter, you see, to keep from going under. A better name for leveraged buyouts might be "asset stripping" as a prelude to foreclosure.

    Does anyone remember the Fruehauf truck trailers that used to crowd the nation's highways? Fruehauf also folded after a leveraged buyout.
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  6. “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”

    If that is not an indictment on a certain demographic I don’t know what is. Illegals from Africa are not just as bad as terrorists, they are not just worse than terrorists, but they are much worse than terrorists.

    Given that we readily use Israeli intel to formulate major policy decisions, such as the 2003 Iraq Attack, why doesn’t Trump use this major piece of intel on a particular demographic to immediately shut down all visas from this area? I’d love to see Schumer and company complain in public about terminating visas from these areas. Trump could reply, “Bibi says they are much worse than terrorists.” How is Schumer going to reply to that?

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    Schumer would put some daylight between his position and Netayahu's. That is fairly routine for leftists Jews in the US.
    , @snorlax
    Israel actually cautioned Bush against invading Iraq — they correctly predicted that overthrowing Saddam and holding elections would result in an Iranian takeover.
    , @Mishra
    Trump should also copy their idea of a (modern, electrified) 'smart fence' instead of a (medieval, barrier) dumb wall. But Trump isn't that smart.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Yawn. You're using the word 'worse' out of its context. The context is a 'worse' specific threat to Israel right now given all of their security measures.

    I am worse than Hitler (at speaking German.) You're just stupid.
    , @anonymous
    Nah, this doesn't work. I and others have tried this approach for over 20 years.

    It's the Tamar Jacoby, Madeline Albright, Chuck Schumer or just really all Neo Conservative Jews.

    These Jews have split minds, one for Israel, one for the USA, Europe, UK - the (White) West.

    These Jews see no contradiction in Israel building effective border walls and deporting all Black African migrants, undocumented and....

    Insisting that the United States, Europe, Scandinavia, UK, Australia - the West must not, will not be allowed to do anything even remotely like the Israeli border security, Israel as a jewish ethno state.

    Expect to get smeared as a beyond the pale evil NAZI for just opposing mass Islamic extremist immigration, mass Muslim male migration invasions.

    The Hungarians understand this and that is why they make George Soros as the #1 evil mastermind plotting to over run Hungary and Europe with Millions of Muslims, Black Africans etc.

    It's sad but true, the Jewish political, media and academic elite in and outside of Israel favors the Muslims, 3rd world invasion, conquest of Europe, USA, the White West. It's revenge for World War II or just the reality that Jews never feel safe in a stable, homogenous White country.
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  7. On this issue, I trust we shall see,
    Palestinians surely agree.
    Fellow Semites may fix
    What divides them, and mix:
    But three is a crowd, Refugee!

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  8. Meretz will be the death of us. May G-d smite them and their diaspora friends.

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    • Replies: @Anon

    May G-d smite them
     
    I guess you don't believe in him but, it's ok to type the word "God".
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  9. @Louis Renault
    The senior management of Toys-R-Us Isreal didn't pile on the debt so high that the cash flow wouldn't service it, thus forcing the company into bankruptcy liquidation - thus allowing the same senior management team or their associates to buy up all the pieces for pennies on the shekel and spin off the rest to the suckers who bought the bonds?

    Yes, I read that Mitt Romney’s friends at Bain Capital played a sigmificant role in the demise of Toys R Us. Bain convinced them to take on the unsustainable debt load.

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    • Replies: @Yngvar
    Leveraged buy-outs have killed a lot of viable companies. The 'investors' in the bonds don't care; they're institutional and are insured.
    , @AnotherDad

    Yes, I read that Mitt Romney’s friends at Bain Capital played a sigmificant role in the demise of Toys R Us. Bain convinced them to take on the unsustainable debt load.
     
    Good. Kids don't need all that crap in those stores. Some wooden blocks, maybe a toy car, a doll or two for the girls. The bigger lego clones--forget what they are called--are good for toddler ages. Maybe snap trains at some toddler aged Christmas.

    Kids should be building stuff and using their imaginations. It doesn't take a whole lot. They certainly don't need piles and piles of random crap which is what those stores are full of.

    Of course, what they also need is parents to *not* expose them--i.e. park them in front of--television and just let their brains develop normally. I can pretty much tell good parenting from bad just by whether you walk in the house and the TV is babysitting the kids.
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  10. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    If that is not an indictment on a certain demographic I don't know what is. Illegals from Africa are not just as bad as terrorists, they are not just worse than terrorists, but they are much worse than terrorists.

    Given that we readily use Israeli intel to formulate major policy decisions, such as the 2003 Iraq Attack, why doesn't Trump use this major piece of intel on a particular demographic to immediately shut down all visas from this area? I'd love to see Schumer and company complain in public about terminating visas from these areas. Trump could reply, "Bibi says they are much worse than terrorists." How is Schumer going to reply to that?

    Schumer would put some daylight between his position and Netayahu’s. That is fairly routine for leftists Jews in the US.

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    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    It's never a full-throated denouncement, though, as you imply. There's never an accusation of racism. As you said, there's mild criticism but with the critics secure in the knowledge that their co-ethnics will never allow to happen in israel what they themselves have been pursuing in the US.
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  11. So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?

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    • Replies: @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

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  12. @Dov
    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her – something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn’t telling her anything she didn’t already know or at least suspect.

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    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her – something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn’t telling her anything she didn’t already know or at least suspect.
     
    The few Israelis and many Chinese colleagues I've worked with, over a period of decades, have all been singularly direct, blunt and non-PC. The Dutch are a little bit like that, too, but at more at a personal level. They can be quite tactless.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    According to Esquire Magazine, israeli jews love black people.

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a32848/donald-sterling-culture/
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  13. We should ask David Rothkopf and Max Boot to comment on the matter.

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  14. @Moses

    Netanyahu said a tide of non-Jewish immigration would threaten the very fabric of Israel.
     
    B-b-b-but...don't they know diversity makes them stronger?

    And think of all the awesome new ethnic restaurants!

    No need , they already know how to make kebabs in Israel……..

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  15. @countenance
    Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

    According to the web, there are 26 Toys-R-Us stores in Israel and 161 in Japan, so birthrate can’t be the determining factor.

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  16. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    OT: The Austin bombings. I bet it’s Antifa. They’re been egging each other on to get serious with violence, and they’re all giddy with excitement at the prospect of it. I’m pretty certain it’s someone(s) young, because the criminal in question would have been setting off bombs for the last two decades if it were someone older.

    Secondly, the person appears to have had help in the bomb-making and plotting stages. There have been six explosions since March 2, and from the rate of bomb construction and the whole thinking through where they ought to go, this looks like the work of more than one person. Thus an Antifa cell may be behind this, some involved in sourcing and purchasing the materials, and some in the construction, and some in the placement and plotting behind the bombs.

    The location is also interesting. There’s an old rule that leftists always crap in their own nests, (blacks always riot and burn their own ghettos down) and Austin is a hotbed of excitable young liberals prone to Antifa-joining and SJW grandstanding.

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    The location is also interesting. There’s an old rule that leftists always crap in their own nests, (blacks always riot and burn their own ghettos down) and Austin is a hotbed of excitable young liberals prone to Antifa-joining and SJW grandstanding.
     
    I'm not seeing how planting bombs to kill and maim your neighbors constitutes "SJW grandstanding." Even if it were a hate hoax, they'd pick more obvious targets: synagogues, black churches, etc. And they probably wouldn't design the bombs to actually go off. That's a bit much, even for Antifa. (If the victims were all "Nazis", then I'd say yeah, wouldn't put it past them.)
    , @Anon7
    This series of incidents proves how unsafe packages really are. I’m hoping that some sort of legislation can be passed banning packages, and I want to know how much the pro-package lobbyists have paid to members of Congress. I’m looking at you, UPS, FedEx, and yes, USPS!
    , @FPD72
    The authorities identified the bomber, who blew himself up rather than be arrested. His identity is being withheld pending notification of his family. All we know is that he was a 24 year-old “white” male.

    Since we’ll know more in a short while (unless Austin authorities pull a Las Vegas), I think that I’ll not speculate concerning further information about his identity or motives,
    , @AnotherDad
    If this guy had any remote 6-degrees of separation from "the alt right" or "Trump", you'll know shortly.

    If he didn't--including being a card carrying member of antifa--you're never going to hear about this "lone wolf" again.
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  17. hmmm? this is a watershed moment, finally, after the obscene march of 90% virile male migrants into Europe 2.5 years ago. Israel & Europe (Germany is freaking out, now) are waking up to the idea of troublesome immigration. USA is aware of it….ergo, Trump, so, so, so hated by morally superior, “cough, cough” white privileged-to-the-max, American leftists…Russia says: “duh, told you so,”…China says, “fougetaboudid.”

    This sudden “truth to power” (yuck, I hate that hackneyed phrase) moment by Israel, is stunning. Multiculturalism sucks after all, for the nation that the US has supported financially, for more than a half century. Israel is getting woke, I guess. Malthus is getting underneath everyone’s skin these days.

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    this is a watershed mment
     
    Actually it's nothing of the kind, because the MSM in the USA is ignoring the story.
    , @Anon
    The American Jewish press hasn’t mentioned Netanyahu’s opinion of African immigrants.
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  18. @countenance
    Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

    Israel is giving US military technology to China, in exchange for access to the hottest new toys? Is that the right answer?

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    That's hilarious!
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  19. “Netanyahu Says African Migrants Worse Threat Than Jihadists”

    This statement is replete with deep significances that are likely to pass unnoticed, as the African angle will attract all the attention.

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  20. @Dov
    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    I don’t see anything as ‘racial’ to do with it. I am anti-racist, and can still see the problems.

    Situation in Israel is just fucked with the illegal immigrants.

    I was there (not for my first time) last month, and have explored areas which feel like you are in Sudan, where whole parts of Tel Aviv are only living Sudanese Muslims.

    I don’t know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    And you can see the kind of legal issues they have, with their ultra-liberal system:

    ‘Can illegal immigrant get legal status by committing rape?’

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243226

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    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.
     
    Time to update the old joke about the boy who murdered his parents, then asked for mercy as an orphan.
    , @Anon
    Isn’t abortion the 11th commandment of Judaism?
    , @27 year old

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.
     
    Give that guy credit for expertly assimilating to the jewish culture of sociopathic chutzpah.
    , @Anonymous
    Israel's location has always made it highly vulnerable to migration flows, but I was always under the impression that the government did a reasonably good job of enforcing the borders and keeping people who realistically can't contribute to a modern economy out, if for no other reason then the fact that there are a lot of people in Israel who make Bibi look like a bleeding-heart hippie on the issue. Guess not.

    >I don’t know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    No, but it sounds very similar to what a lot of courts in the US do with illegal aliens from Central America. They don't bring the potential of a terrorism threat with them, granted (something the US traditionally has not had to deal with, as American Muslims are on the whole-exceptions do exist with "European style" Muslim communities in Minneapolis and Dearborn, but they are just that, exceptions-a lot better adjusted and far more productive than Europe's, for a host of reasons), but many of them are still some seriously scary people coming from some of the most per capita violent societies on the globe. Whole schools have been infested with MS-13-the recent spate of killings in the US news-yet many local precincts will do everything in their power to prevent the government from doing its job.

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/19/c_136907921.htm

    California even announced its intention to prosecute any employers that cooperate with immigration authorities. Apparently obeying federal laws is a crime now.

    , @Dmitry

    The problem is “flooding” period. Immigration of a few, who do not materially change the demographics, is one thing. Mass immigration is another, regardless of whether the immigrants are civilized or not.

    As Tucker Carlson recently said, “this is more change than human beings are designed to digest”. Here is a 90 second clip of Tucker spelling out what is the heart of the issue.
     
    Issue of things like the negative impact on personal safety and crime, is a result of quality (lack of filtration of immigrants).

    Filtration of immigrants also reduced numbers/flooding as well of course.

    Issue of whether to have immigrants at all ( even carefully selected ones) is another debate , as I mention in the post above. And relates to more questions like cultural continuity - which people might oppose even if all the immigrants arriving were Japanese aristocrats from Kyoto. As well as obvious ones like over-crowding, or competition for local workforce (which can occur even in professional workforces like Silicon Valley or top league football teams).
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  21. @countenance
    Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

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  22. Wow, he’s not calling them infultrators anymore. You Know what they say, African migrants, can’t live with’em can’t shoot’em.

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    You Know what they say, African migrants, can’t live with’em can’t shoot’em.

     

    Fifteen refugees killed in Sinai as they reportedly attempt to enter Israel to seek asylum
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  23. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    If that is not an indictment on a certain demographic I don't know what is. Illegals from Africa are not just as bad as terrorists, they are not just worse than terrorists, but they are much worse than terrorists.

    Given that we readily use Israeli intel to formulate major policy decisions, such as the 2003 Iraq Attack, why doesn't Trump use this major piece of intel on a particular demographic to immediately shut down all visas from this area? I'd love to see Schumer and company complain in public about terminating visas from these areas. Trump could reply, "Bibi says they are much worse than terrorists." How is Schumer going to reply to that?

    Israel actually cautioned Bush against invading Iraq — they correctly predicted that overthrowing Saddam and holding elections would result in an Iranian takeover.

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    Sure they did. That's what we call "window dressing".

    Did you fall for it or are you hoping we will?
    , @istevefan
    Snorlax, your link suggests that Sharon advised Bush to not occupy and install a democratic form of government. It doesn't appear to suggest that Sharon did not want Bush to attack Iraq.

    Sharon’s words — revealed here for the first time — constituted a friendly but pointed warning to Bush. Sharon acknowledged that Saddam Hussein was an “acute threat” to the Middle East and that he believed Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction.

    Yet according to one knowledgeable source, Sharon nevertheless advised Bush not to occupy Iraq. According to another source — Danny Ayalon, who was Israel’s ambassador to the United States at the time of the Iraq invasion, and who sat in on the Bush-Sharon meetings — Sharon told Bush that Israel would not “push one way or another” regarding the Iraq scheme.

    According to both sources, Sharon warned Bush that if he insisted on occupying Iraq, he should at least abandon his plan to implant democracy in this part of the world. “In terms of culture and tradition, the Arab world is not built for democratization,” Ayalon recalls Sharon advising.
     
    On the contrary this link from CBS seems to suggest Sharon's government wanted the US to move ahead.

    Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq's Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.

    Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.

    "Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose," Gissin said. "It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction."
     
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  24. @Anon
    OT: The Austin bombings. I bet it's Antifa. They're been egging each other on to get serious with violence, and they're all giddy with excitement at the prospect of it. I'm pretty certain it's someone(s) young, because the criminal in question would have been setting off bombs for the last two decades if it were someone older.

    Secondly, the person appears to have had help in the bomb-making and plotting stages. There have been six explosions since March 2, and from the rate of bomb construction and the whole thinking through where they ought to go, this looks like the work of more than one person. Thus an Antifa cell may be behind this, some involved in sourcing and purchasing the materials, and some in the construction, and some in the placement and plotting behind the bombs.

    The location is also interesting. There's an old rule that leftists always crap in their own nests, (blacks always riot and burn their own ghettos down) and Austin is a hotbed of excitable young liberals prone to Antifa-joining and SJW grandstanding.

    The location is also interesting. There’s an old rule that leftists always crap in their own nests, (blacks always riot and burn their own ghettos down) and Austin is a hotbed of excitable young liberals prone to Antifa-joining and SJW grandstanding.

    I’m not seeing how planting bombs to kill and maim your neighbors constitutes “SJW grandstanding.” Even if it were a hate hoax, they’d pick more obvious targets: synagogues, black churches, etc. And they probably wouldn’t design the bombs to actually go off. That’s a bit much, even for Antifa. (If the victims were all “Nazis”, then I’d say yeah, wouldn’t put it past them.)

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  25. @larry lurker
    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her - something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn't telling her anything she didn't already know or at least suspect.

    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her – something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn’t telling her anything she didn’t already know or at least suspect.

    The few Israelis and many Chinese colleagues I’ve worked with, over a period of decades, have all been singularly direct, blunt and non-PC. The Dutch are a little bit like that, too, but at more at a personal level. They can be quite tactless.

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    I've come across that for years - the crude, really soooo racist talk by liberals behind closed doors...I worked in DC & I went to an elite East Coast school. I could literally, Me-effing-Too a whole lotta Beta Males (a la' Whiskey)...but, naaah, I was over it by 1991. The one thing I am not: grudge holder. - the ancient wisdom I was taught, You die early if you are vengeful.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Let's give the Dutch a huge shout out for tactlessness. Goring PC sacred cows is a righteous deed.
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  26. “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”

    Thinking about this in another way, what Bibi is saying is that immigration is worse than war. This is a topic that has come up before on this blog. I recall a discussion about Poland where people contrasted the UK and Poland from 1939 to today.

    Poland was invaded by two giants in 1939. At least 6 million were killed. The infrastructure was totally destroyed. Poland then endured a forty-plus year occupation by the communists until 1989.

    Meanwhile the UK, although severely damaged by the war, was on the wining side and resisted being invaded by the Germans.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    So the Polish-UK example shows that immigration is more of a threat than war and occupation. And now PM Netanyahu has basically confirmed this by saying he considers migrants more of a threat than terrorists.

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    Areas of South Tel Aviv, where the illegal immigrants settled, actually feel like a warzone.

    It's not entirely fair to blame the illegal immigrants - these were third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city already before the illegal immigrants came.

    It was a backwards slum before they came. Although at least there was apparently previously still personal safety and a warm atmosphere, which was transformed now into an area of violence and rape.

    But the illegal immigration has really fucked parts of the city. (Just like Arab culture fucked the atmosphere in Jaffa).

    I feel sorry for the illegal immigrants there. But I don't see how situation is sustainable or not going to lead to 'warzone' with the other population groups.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MNpmlqUglE
    , @Anon7
    “As I demonstrated in a study published last year, there were at least 56 attempts to employ the direct or indirect threat of mass migrations as a non-military instrument of influence between 1951 and 2006.

    “In about 73 percent of cases where it was attempted, would-be coercers got at least some of what they sought; in about 57 percent of cases, they achieved most, if not all, of their objectives. The majority of these coercive attempts were initiated by authoritarian dictators such as Cuba’s Fidel Castro, East Germany’s Erich Honecker, the former Yugoslavia’s Slobodan Milosevic and Uganda’s Idi Amin.

    “However, it is worth noting that the threat and actual manipulation of mass migrations has also been employed by democratic leaders like West Germany’s Konrad Adenauer and Dwight Eisenhower of the United States.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/opinion/21iht-edgreenhill21.html
    , @Dmitry

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

     

    If you walk in the nice (expensive) areas of London, the non-British immigrants all seem very civilized.

    The problem is if you walk into the dangerous parts of London, like the Eastern side, or South of the River Thame.

    This again goes to the beautiful comment of Trump vis-a-vis immigration to America: "they're not sending their best".

    The problem (or most obvious problem - I'm not saying a country should not have 0 immigrants, if it chooses) is flooding of the worst cattle into these countries, without filtration system to select desirable traits.

    It is like if Harvard University, has decided to flood its admissions with all the stupidest people in the world. It's not going to last long as a desirable university.
    , @Lot

    migrants more of a threat than terrorists
     
    I think a lot of concern about "Islamic terrorism" in the USA is more people evading PC censors about "Islamic migration." Between 9/11 and Merkel's million Muslims, the latter will prove to be the more destructive attack on the West.

    To do a bit of math, the one million, if they have the same murder rate once they get cozy in Germany of Brasilians, this implies they will commit about 260 murders a year. But the Brasilian rate includes women, children, and the elderly. Few of Merkel's million fit that description. So 500 excess murders a year is probably more realistic. Thus the 9/11 death toll gets beat after only 6 years.

    But it gets worse. How many deadly traffic accidents do these guys cause? How many die from diseases they introduce? And finally, how many native Germans, now facing higher taxes, less housing availability, worse neighborhoods, and worse schools, decide not to have no or fewer children?

    Long-term impact of Merkel's Million over a 30 year period I'd wager is over 25,000 dead and never-born native Germans. And that is just part of the demographic impact, and not getting into the cultural and economic impact.
    , @Anonymous
    Already, 30% of English 15 year olds have a 'migration background', according to information released by PISA.
    That's bad enough - unthinkable even in Powell's day, let alone pre 1940 - but considering the historic and immutable growth rates of that particular statistic, it's pretty much a certainty that the figure will breast 50% - ie majority - in 20 years' time.

    The takeaway is that, inevitably, the indigenous ethnic English will form a small minority, around 10 to 20% of the English population by 2100.
    , @Twodees Partain
    That's a very interesting observation. Unchecked immigration is an invasion, of sorts, and the eventual relegation of the original population to minority status amounts to occupation by the invaders. It really is as simple as that, IMO.
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  27. @istevefan

    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.
     
    Who says you are?

    Never Forget … that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.

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    So all the other Jews voted for Clinton then?
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    IIRC, admittedly from a smallish sample (Lord Ashcroft's polls), a small majority of UK Jews voted for Brexit.

    It's just that they aren't the ones writing Times and Guardian op-eds.
    , @AnotherDad

    Never Forget … that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.
     
    Weak.

    Honestly i'm embarrassed for any "man" who voted for the incompetent, tedious, lying, hectoring PCLFH (Protestant Church Lady from Hell). They should have to cut off their penis and give it back.
    , @Brutusale
    Voted for Trump:

    Jewish "men": 51%
    White women: 52%

    Pretty weak.
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  28. I was going to post this in the previous thread about the American Experiment.

    What about the Israeli experiment? Seems the results mirror the usual European majority country.

    And some Jasmine Scented news.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-why-interfaith-marriage-is-on-the-rise-1.5250507

    Bibi is right btw.

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    We Jews need to accept just desserts for our unearned Jewish privilege. We must accept that we'll become a minority in Israel. We should welcome it, not fear it. A far more diverse and multicultural Israel will be a better, stronger Israel.

    Diversity is strength, Fellow Jewish People.

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  29. @PiltdownMan

    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her – something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn’t telling her anything she didn’t already know or at least suspect.
     
    The few Israelis and many Chinese colleagues I've worked with, over a period of decades, have all been singularly direct, blunt and non-PC. The Dutch are a little bit like that, too, but at more at a personal level. They can be quite tactless.

    I’ve come across that for years – the crude, really soooo racist talk by liberals behind closed doors…I worked in DC & I went to an elite East Coast school. I could literally, Me-effing-Too a whole lotta Beta Males (a la’ Whiskey)…but, naaah, I was over it by 1991. The one thing I am not: grudge holder. – the ancient wisdom I was taught, You die early if you are vengeful.

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  30. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    Thinking about this in another way, what Bibi is saying is that immigration is worse than war. This is a topic that has come up before on this blog. I recall a discussion about Poland where people contrasted the UK and Poland from 1939 to today.

    Poland was invaded by two giants in 1939. At least 6 million were killed. The infrastructure was totally destroyed. Poland then endured a forty-plus year occupation by the communists until 1989.

    Meanwhile the UK, although severely damaged by the war, was on the wining side and resisted being invaded by the Germans.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    So the Polish-UK example shows that immigration is more of a threat than war and occupation. And now PM Netanyahu has basically confirmed this by saying he considers migrants more of a threat than terrorists.

    Areas of South Tel Aviv, where the illegal immigrants settled, actually feel like a warzone.

    It’s not entirely fair to blame the illegal immigrants – these were third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city already before the illegal immigrants came.

    It was a backwards slum before they came. Although at least there was apparently previously still personal safety and a warm atmosphere, which was transformed now into an area of violence and rape.

    But the illegal immigration has really fucked parts of the city. (Just like Arab culture fucked the atmosphere in Jaffa).

    I feel sorry for the illegal immigrants there. But I don’t see how situation is sustainable or not going to lead to ‘warzone’ with the other population groups.

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    This is like Calais. Horror.
    , @Anonymous

    third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city
     
    If those Arab Jews were in America they would be middle class or successful businessmen. But in Israel they are slum dwellers. What gives?
    , @merema
    Stop exaggerating, I don't see a war zone. I see a whole bunch of poor people, Africans (mostly Eritreans) and and non-African selling stuff and milling around relaxed.
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  31. https://www.c-span.org/video/?439685-4/washington-journal-max-boot-discusses-trump-administration-foreign-policy-challenges

    @thirdworldstevereader
    I did ask Max Boot on C-Span 1/15/18 starting at the 11th minute about the expulsion of the African war refugees from Israel. He didn’t directly respond but said said he didn’t understand why I was ranting and raving. But I wasn’t. He also said that Israel treats Christians and Muslims with respect which, of course, is questionable. I also said his advice to the US govt about the Iraq war was a catastrophe and to his credit he admitted it was.

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    Max Boot

    I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CALLER IS RANTING AND RAVING ABOUT AND WHAT ISRAEL'S POLICY HAVE TO DO WITH DONALD TRUMP. ISRAEL, BY THE WAY, WELCOMES PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. GIVE CITIZENSHIP TO ANY JEW WHO WANTS TO IMMIGRATE AND TREATS CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH DONALD TRUMP OR MY FOREIGN POLICY RECORD.

     

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  32. @res
    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn't work as well as the media tries to tell us?

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?

    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

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    It might be harder to scale those walls than you think...

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_BlD61vodZI

    We’ll see.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.
     
    Great place for a piñata, though.

    Fill it with green cards!
    , @International Jew
    Quite right about ladders. Me, if I had to get over a 50-foot wall, I'd use a rope with a grappling hook.
    , @istevefan

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.
     
    Yes, the ladder fallacy is pretty silly. For most people anything over 10 feet off the ground begins to get unnerving. Additionally if you need a 51 foot-plus ladder to scale a wall, you will need a similar ladder for the other side. That would be pretty hard to lift such a ladder over the wall and properly set it up for the climb down.

    Of course people might argue that one would use the giant ladder to get to the top of the wall and then drop a rope down the other side to descend into the USA. But that is probably harder for most people. To descend down a 50 foot rope, with no safety harness, is more dangerous than descending a ladder.

    Sure there are people that can do it. But it would drastically reduce the number of people able to cross the border. A properly designed border wall would be akin to a rate of flow problem. It might not eliminate all illegal crossings, but I bet it would cut it down to 20 percent or less than the current rate.

    Keep in mind the people who keep insisting there are taller ladders out there than any wall know very well a wall will significantly reduce illegal crossings. That is why they oppose the wall and are trying to gaslight us into throwing in the towel and not building one. For if it were so easy to use ladders on tall walls, they wouldn't be making all this fuss. They'd be confident that the wall would not affect them, or their future voters and would simply let us blow off steam by building a wall.

    But they know it will work and are desperate to prevent its construction. Not only will the wall work in reducing crossings, but it will also change the mindset of Americans and foreigners that the USA does indeed have borders and they will be enforced.
    , @Anon
    Doesn’t a 50 or even 30 ft ladder require stabilization at the base to keep it steady?
    , @Anonymous
    Also, very long ladders are a nightmare to erect, due to the mathematical principle of 'turning moments'.
    , @Anonymous
    Perhaps, a determined infiltrator could take a diamond drill with him, and insert anchor bolts, rock climber style, at strategic intervals, to 'tie in' ropes etc.
    Or else, perhaps, bring in a truck load of scaffolding fittings and erect a tower.

    Best avoided by the inclusion of a 'circular finial', of large radius upon the wall parapet.
    , @Karl
    31 Lot > What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder?



    ...while being fired upon

    The borders in the Negev are patrolled by the co-ed units (light infantry), but on the western border, detachments of the heavy infantry (all male: Golani, Givati, etc) is frequently on hand as well

    Light infantry is infantry. They are not a gendarmerie. They shoot to kill, and are equipped to do it.
    , @Brutusale
    A 50-foot aluminum extension ladder would weigh about 750 pounds.

    https://www.wernerco.com/us/view/D532-2
    , @Olorin
    The train is OK, Lot.
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  33. @Anon
    OT: The Austin bombings. I bet it's Antifa. They're been egging each other on to get serious with violence, and they're all giddy with excitement at the prospect of it. I'm pretty certain it's someone(s) young, because the criminal in question would have been setting off bombs for the last two decades if it were someone older.

    Secondly, the person appears to have had help in the bomb-making and plotting stages. There have been six explosions since March 2, and from the rate of bomb construction and the whole thinking through where they ought to go, this looks like the work of more than one person. Thus an Antifa cell may be behind this, some involved in sourcing and purchasing the materials, and some in the construction, and some in the placement and plotting behind the bombs.

    The location is also interesting. There's an old rule that leftists always crap in their own nests, (blacks always riot and burn their own ghettos down) and Austin is a hotbed of excitable young liberals prone to Antifa-joining and SJW grandstanding.

    This series of incidents proves how unsafe packages really are. I’m hoping that some sort of legislation can be passed banning packages, and I want to know how much the pro-package lobbyists have paid to members of Congress. I’m looking at you, UPS, FedEx, and yes, USPS!

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  34. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    Thinking about this in another way, what Bibi is saying is that immigration is worse than war. This is a topic that has come up before on this blog. I recall a discussion about Poland where people contrasted the UK and Poland from 1939 to today.

    Poland was invaded by two giants in 1939. At least 6 million were killed. The infrastructure was totally destroyed. Poland then endured a forty-plus year occupation by the communists until 1989.

    Meanwhile the UK, although severely damaged by the war, was on the wining side and resisted being invaded by the Germans.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    So the Polish-UK example shows that immigration is more of a threat than war and occupation. And now PM Netanyahu has basically confirmed this by saying he considers migrants more of a threat than terrorists.

    “As I demonstrated in a study published last year, there were at least 56 attempts to employ the direct or indirect threat of mass migrations as a non-military instrument of influence between 1951 and 2006.

    “In about 73 percent of cases where it was attempted, would-be coercers got at least some of what they sought; in about 57 percent of cases, they achieved most, if not all, of their objectives. The majority of these coercive attempts were initiated by authoritarian dictators such as Cuba’s Fidel Castro, East Germany’s Erich Honecker, the former Yugoslavia’s Slobodan Milosevic and Uganda’s Idi Amin.

    “However, it is worth noting that the threat and actual manipulation of mass migrations has also been employed by democratic leaders like West Germany’s Konrad Adenauer and Dwight Eisenhower of the United States.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/opinion/21iht-edgreenhill21.html

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    I wish that article would have gone into more detail to explain each particular case. Off hand the ones that mentioned Castro and Amin were probably threats to dump their own surplus population on foreign nations.

    I wonder if there are any examples of one's own leaders threatening to dump foreigners on their own nation.

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  35. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    It might be harder to scale those walls than you think…

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_BlD61vodZI

    We’ll see.

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  36. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    Thinking about this in another way, what Bibi is saying is that immigration is worse than war. This is a topic that has come up before on this blog. I recall a discussion about Poland where people contrasted the UK and Poland from 1939 to today.

    Poland was invaded by two giants in 1939. At least 6 million were killed. The infrastructure was totally destroyed. Poland then endured a forty-plus year occupation by the communists until 1989.

    Meanwhile the UK, although severely damaged by the war, was on the wining side and resisted being invaded by the Germans.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    So the Polish-UK example shows that immigration is more of a threat than war and occupation. And now PM Netanyahu has basically confirmed this by saying he considers migrants more of a threat than terrorists.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    If you walk in the nice (expensive) areas of London, the non-British immigrants all seem very civilized.

    The problem is if you walk into the dangerous parts of London, like the Eastern side, or South of the River Thame.

    This again goes to the beautiful comment of Trump vis-a-vis immigration to America: “they’re not sending their best”.

    The problem (or most obvious problem – I’m not saying a country should not have 0 immigrants, if it chooses) is flooding of the worst cattle into these countries, without filtration system to select desirable traits.

    It is like if Harvard University, has decided to flood its admissions with all the stupidest people in the world. It’s not going to last long as a desirable university.

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    I don’t disagree with the ethos and the heart of your posting, but your analysis of poor old London is a bit simplistic.
    An Englishman feels more alienated in beautiful Holland Park, with its 3rd world nannies pushing prams filled with baby oil trash, than he does in the gentrifying East End, with its craft breweries filled with English and American hipsters working in Shoreditch startups. As for ‘South of the Thames’, try buying a flat in Putney or Battersea. Expensive, but at least these are still real places compared to the billionaire freak shows that are Mayfair and Knightsbridge.
    , @istevefan

    The problem ...is flooding of the worst ...
     
    The problem is "flooding" period. Immigration of a few, who do not materially change the demographics, is one thing. Mass immigration is another, regardless of whether the immigrants are civilized or not.

    As Tucker Carlson recently said, "this is more change than human beings are designed to digest". Here is a 90 second clip of Tucker spelling out what is the heart of the issue.


    #ICYMI Check out the segment from tonight about the changing demographics in America pic.twitter.com/eM1VJkN8OG— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) March 20, 2018
     
    , @Anonymous
    Actually, Eamomn De Valera first said that about Irish emigrants to the UK.
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  37. It’s good to see that people as high up as Bibi are aware that terrorism is merely a symptom–a problem (with a fat right tail, e.g. 9/11, and large hidden expenses for “prevention”) but a symptom nonetheless. The problem is demographic replacement and national dispossession. Terrorism is a great initial talking point but it will wilt somewhat under statistical criticism.

    By the way, Steve, it’s a bit tangential, but I wanted to ask you: Do you know anything about this report that Israel’s scientific and technological prowess is faltering? I haven’t been able to find the actual pdf, unfortunately. Still, I’d be interested in your thoughts on their current trajectory. http://archive.is/to9cB

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  38. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    Thinking about this in another way, what Bibi is saying is that immigration is worse than war. This is a topic that has come up before on this blog. I recall a discussion about Poland where people contrasted the UK and Poland from 1939 to today.

    Poland was invaded by two giants in 1939. At least 6 million were killed. The infrastructure was totally destroyed. Poland then endured a forty-plus year occupation by the communists until 1989.

    Meanwhile the UK, although severely damaged by the war, was on the wining side and resisted being invaded by the Germans.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    So the Polish-UK example shows that immigration is more of a threat than war and occupation. And now PM Netanyahu has basically confirmed this by saying he considers migrants more of a threat than terrorists.

    migrants more of a threat than terrorists

    I think a lot of concern about “Islamic terrorism” in the USA is more people evading PC censors about “Islamic migration.” Between 9/11 and Merkel’s million Muslims, the latter will prove to be the more destructive attack on the West.

    To do a bit of math, the one million, if they have the same murder rate once they get cozy in Germany of Brasilians, this implies they will commit about 260 murders a year. But the Brasilian rate includes women, children, and the elderly. Few of Merkel’s million fit that description. So 500 excess murders a year is probably more realistic. Thus the 9/11 death toll gets beat after only 6 years.

    But it gets worse. How many deadly traffic accidents do these guys cause? How many die from diseases they introduce? And finally, how many native Germans, now facing higher taxes, less housing availability, worse neighborhoods, and worse schools, decide not to have no or fewer children?

    Long-term impact of Merkel’s Million over a 30 year period I’d wager is over 25,000 dead and never-born native Germans. And that is just part of the demographic impact, and not getting into the cultural and economic impact.

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    If you're including the 'never-born' Germans, it'll be a whole lot more than that. Many white people in the USA are refusing to bring new children into this world, where it's clear they'll be enslaved or more likely slaughtered before it's all over.
    , @istevefan

    Between 9/11 and Merkel’s million Muslims, the latter will prove to be the more destructive attack on the West.
     
    That is a good point. But one thing you forget is that the USA has more muslims today than it did prior to 9-11. In other words we have taken in well over a million muslims since that attack. Now ours did not come in with the same fanfare that those in Germany did. But we still got them and they are now on their way to becoming a material percentage of our population.
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  39. @Dmitry
    I don't see anything as 'racial' to do with it. I am anti-racist, and can still see the problems.

    Situation in Israel is just fucked with the illegal immigrants.

    I was there (not for my first time) last month, and have explored areas which feel like you are in Sudan, where whole parts of Tel Aviv are only living Sudanese Muslims.

    I don't know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    And you can see the kind of legal issues they have, with their ultra-liberal system:

    ‘Can illegal immigrant get legal status by committing rape?’

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243226
     

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    Time to update the old joke about the boy who murdered his parents, then asked for mercy as an orphan.

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    One of the Old Testament laws atheists love to quote out of context calls for rapists to marry their victims, in other words, to shoulder the full burden of gratification and not see the woman as disposable. I don't think Israel gives citizenship for marriage the way we do though.
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  40. Netanyahu’s saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He’s not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he’d put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.

    The current terrorist threat from across the Sinai border is low enough that it’s patrolled by Israel’s one mixed-gender infantry batallion.

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    Netanyahu’s saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He’s not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he’d put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.
     
    I don't know the whole story about Africans in Israel, but I did hear something about Bibi wanting to get rid of 40K Africans ASAP. This is not trying to stop a future stream of Africans or potential problem, but rather to eliminate a current problem that apparently does pose a threat to Israel. So his actions in this case seem to speak louder than his words, or at least to the way you interpret them.

    He also said this:

    “After a million, 1.5 million, we might as well shut up shop,” he added.
     
    Israel currently has around 8.3 million people of which 75%(6.225 million) are Jewish. If you add Bibi's high number of 1.5 million migrants, Israel would have around 9.8 million instead with 6.225 million (63.5%) being Jews.

    So according to Bibi if the Jewish population ever reaches as low as 63.5%, Israel might as well shut up shop. Well the USA was at least 85% European in 1965 and now we are coincidentally around 63.5% European today. I wonder if Bibi would advise us to shut up shop?
    , @J.Ross
    This is pilpul: both applications are legitimate and we like either one. You will not get around the fact that some people are allowed to state the obvious and some people had better keep their mouths shut.
    , @Karl
    39 International Jew > one mixed-gender infantry batallion

    you need to visit more often. There's three
    , @Anon
    If he believed that, he’d put them all on buses...

    This conclusion doesn't follow. Obviously you have ignored the cost side of the calculus.
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  41. anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Hey man, not all Jews are SJW’s. I know this Israeli chick and she’s based.” – Could that be because her co-ethnics who own the media in your country have mind-f**ked you, while sparing their own in their own country?

    Could the explanation for a culture of race realism in Israel and race-denialism in the diaspora be because Jews control the media and culture in both? And, what’s good for the Jews in the diaspora is the opposite of what’s good for them in Isreal? Could it also be that this hypocrisy wasn’t necessarily a conscious decision “hehe let’s be hypocritical”,** but just Jews responding to incentives, and then creating cultural environments in both that serve their interests in both, via the media?

    Could it be that the whole “grand Jewish conspiracy” explanation represents a disconnect between the “conscious decision to be hypocritical” hypothesis and the reality: responding to the environment and creating the justification for what’s best for your people on an ad hoc basis?

    Also, a large part of the reason that Sweden is so liberal is because 6/8 of its largest newspapers*** (and a ton of other media) are owned by families of significantly Jewish heritage. (Bonnier and Hjorne****)

    ** Isn’t this the manifestation of most real world hypocrisy?

    *** See the names of the companies that own the largest “morning” and “evening” newspapers.

    **** Bonnier owns 5/8 of the largest newspapers. Hjorne’s owns 1/8 of the largest, and over 20 more. Peter Hjorne’s maternal grandmother was Jewish. Aina Kaplan. He paid to have all of the school children in Goteborg go see Schindler’s list when it came out, so it’s reasonable to presume that his heritage means something to him.

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    40 anon > are owned by families of significantly Jewish heritage


    in Sweden, freedom of the press belongs to those who own one.

    sorry to hear that you spent all your money on NFL regalia. Not all Swedish Jewish families did that.
    , @International Jew
    Israelis are more realistic, than US Jews, because they've had to survive in a more dangerous neighborhood. Same reason whites in Mississippi are more realistic about blacks, than are whites in Vermont.
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  42. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Great place for a piñata, though.

    Fill it with green cards!

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  43. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Quite right about ladders. Me, if I had to get over a 50-foot wall, I’d use a rope with a grappling hook.

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  44. @PiltdownMan

    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her – something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn’t telling her anything she didn’t already know or at least suspect.
     
    The few Israelis and many Chinese colleagues I've worked with, over a period of decades, have all been singularly direct, blunt and non-PC. The Dutch are a little bit like that, too, but at more at a personal level. They can be quite tactless.

    Let’s give the Dutch a huge shout out for tactlessness. Goring PC sacred cows is a righteous deed.

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  45. @Reg Cæsar

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.
     
    Time to update the old joke about the boy who murdered his parents, then asked for mercy as an orphan.

    One of the Old Testament laws atheists love to quote out of context calls for rapists to marry their victims, in other words, to shoulder the full burden of gratification and not see the woman as disposable. I don’t think Israel gives citizenship for marriage the way we do though.

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  46. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    If that is not an indictment on a certain demographic I don't know what is. Illegals from Africa are not just as bad as terrorists, they are not just worse than terrorists, but they are much worse than terrorists.

    Given that we readily use Israeli intel to formulate major policy decisions, such as the 2003 Iraq Attack, why doesn't Trump use this major piece of intel on a particular demographic to immediately shut down all visas from this area? I'd love to see Schumer and company complain in public about terminating visas from these areas. Trump could reply, "Bibi says they are much worse than terrorists." How is Schumer going to reply to that?

    Trump should also copy their idea of a (modern, electrified) ‘smart fence’ instead of a (medieval, barrier) dumb wall. But Trump isn’t that smart.

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    Trump may not end up President For Life. A Democrat president would easily find the off switch for your amazing electric fence.
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  47. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Yes, the ladder fallacy is pretty silly. For most people anything over 10 feet off the ground begins to get unnerving. Additionally if you need a 51 foot-plus ladder to scale a wall, you will need a similar ladder for the other side. That would be pretty hard to lift such a ladder over the wall and properly set it up for the climb down.

    Of course people might argue that one would use the giant ladder to get to the top of the wall and then drop a rope down the other side to descend into the USA. But that is probably harder for most people. To descend down a 50 foot rope, with no safety harness, is more dangerous than descending a ladder.

    Sure there are people that can do it. But it would drastically reduce the number of people able to cross the border. A properly designed border wall would be akin to a rate of flow problem. It might not eliminate all illegal crossings, but I bet it would cut it down to 20 percent or less than the current rate.

    Keep in mind the people who keep insisting there are taller ladders out there than any wall know very well a wall will significantly reduce illegal crossings. That is why they oppose the wall and are trying to gaslight us into throwing in the towel and not building one. For if it were so easy to use ladders on tall walls, they wouldn’t be making all this fuss. They’d be confident that the wall would not affect them, or their future voters and would simply let us blow off steam by building a wall.

    But they know it will work and are desperate to prevent its construction. Not only will the wall work in reducing crossings, but it will also change the mindset of Americans and foreigners that the USA does indeed have borders and they will be enforced.

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  48. @Dov
    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    More like, another Jew who puts Jews first. Nothing rare about that at all.

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  49. @snorlax
    Israel actually cautioned Bush against invading Iraq — they correctly predicted that overthrowing Saddam and holding elections would result in an Iranian takeover.

    Sure they did. That’s what we call “window dressing”.

    Did you fall for it or are you hoping we will?

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  50. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Doesn’t a 50 or even 30 ft ladder require stabilization at the base to keep it steady?

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  51. @Lagertha
    hmmm? this is a watershed moment, finally, after the obscene march of 90% virile male migrants into Europe 2.5 years ago. Israel & Europe (Germany is freaking out, now) are waking up to the idea of troublesome immigration. USA is aware of it....ergo, Trump, so, so, so hated by morally superior, "cough, cough" white privileged-to-the-max, American leftists...Russia says: "duh, told you so,"...China says, "fougetaboudid."

    This sudden "truth to power" (yuck, I hate that hackneyed phrase) moment by Israel, is stunning. Multiculturalism sucks after all, for the nation that the US has supported financially, for more than a half century. Israel is getting woke, I guess. Malthus is getting underneath everyone's skin these days.

    this is a watershed mment

    Actually it’s nothing of the kind, because the MSM in the USA is ignoring the story.

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    sigh...
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  52. @Dmitry
    I don't see anything as 'racial' to do with it. I am anti-racist, and can still see the problems.

    Situation in Israel is just fucked with the illegal immigrants.

    I was there (not for my first time) last month, and have explored areas which feel like you are in Sudan, where whole parts of Tel Aviv are only living Sudanese Muslims.

    I don't know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    And you can see the kind of legal issues they have, with their ultra-liberal system:

    ‘Can illegal immigrant get legal status by committing rape?’

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243226
     

    Isn’t abortion the 11th commandment of Judaism?

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  53. the government has ordered that thousands of them must leave or face indefinite imprisonment.

    Now see, this just tells you they haven’t thought this through very well. Your average Eritrean will fairly jump at the chance for three hots and a cot.

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  54. @Lagertha
    hmmm? this is a watershed moment, finally, after the obscene march of 90% virile male migrants into Europe 2.5 years ago. Israel & Europe (Germany is freaking out, now) are waking up to the idea of troublesome immigration. USA is aware of it....ergo, Trump, so, so, so hated by morally superior, "cough, cough" white privileged-to-the-max, American leftists...Russia says: "duh, told you so,"...China says, "fougetaboudid."

    This sudden "truth to power" (yuck, I hate that hackneyed phrase) moment by Israel, is stunning. Multiculturalism sucks after all, for the nation that the US has supported financially, for more than a half century. Israel is getting woke, I guess. Malthus is getting underneath everyone's skin these days.

    The American Jewish press hasn’t mentioned Netanyahu’s opinion of African immigrants.

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    I assume by "The American Jewish press" you mean the mainstream media? Well here's a small sampling of the critical articles that the NY Times has dedicated to Israel vis. its African migrants in recent weeks:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/opinion/israel-refugees-africa.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/world/middleeast/israel-migrants-african.html

    But maybe you mean the actual Jewish press, as in news sites for the Jewish community. Well here's what the most prominent one has had to say on the topic:
    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/257974/israels-chief-rabbi-calls-african-americans-monkeys
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  55. @Lot

    migrants more of a threat than terrorists
     
    I think a lot of concern about "Islamic terrorism" in the USA is more people evading PC censors about "Islamic migration." Between 9/11 and Merkel's million Muslims, the latter will prove to be the more destructive attack on the West.

    To do a bit of math, the one million, if they have the same murder rate once they get cozy in Germany of Brasilians, this implies they will commit about 260 murders a year. But the Brasilian rate includes women, children, and the elderly. Few of Merkel's million fit that description. So 500 excess murders a year is probably more realistic. Thus the 9/11 death toll gets beat after only 6 years.

    But it gets worse. How many deadly traffic accidents do these guys cause? How many die from diseases they introduce? And finally, how many native Germans, now facing higher taxes, less housing availability, worse neighborhoods, and worse schools, decide not to have no or fewer children?

    Long-term impact of Merkel's Million over a 30 year period I'd wager is over 25,000 dead and never-born native Germans. And that is just part of the demographic impact, and not getting into the cultural and economic impact.

    If you’re including the ‘never-born’ Germans, it’ll be a whole lot more than that. Many white people in the USA are refusing to bring new children into this world, where it’s clear they’ll be enslaved or more likely slaughtered before it’s all over.

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    By not having children, they make it harder for the rest of us, and more likely that our children will be so badly outnumbered that they cannot defend their lives, property, territory, and rights.
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  56. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Obviously it’s a skilled move to get down a 30 foot wall safely once you’ve gotten over the top with a “31 foot ladder”….

    Lots of injuries and plenty would be severe.

    If I was a coyote trying to get a typical group of non-athletic men & women over the 30 ft wall in the dark I would use two secured ladders ten ft apart and then heavy duty cargo net draped down on the USA side.

    Even with this setup many women would fall. Many women and some men would freeze with acrophobia clambering over the top of anything higher than 20 ft.

    Rappelling down the USA side would filter the flow to young athletic guys so maybe a third of what’s crossing now.

    Seems logical that a high wall would heavily filter women, children, older men and out of shape men. Coyotes might resort to blowing holes in it with c-4 etc.

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  57. @International Jew
    Netanyahu's saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He's not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he'd put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.

    The current terrorist threat from across the Sinai border is low enough that it's patrolled by Israel's one mixed-gender infantry batallion.

    Netanyahu’s saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He’s not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he’d put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.

    I don’t know the whole story about Africans in Israel, but I did hear something about Bibi wanting to get rid of 40K Africans ASAP. This is not trying to stop a future stream of Africans or potential problem, but rather to eliminate a current problem that apparently does pose a threat to Israel. So his actions in this case seem to speak louder than his words, or at least to the way you interpret them.

    He also said this:

    “After a million, 1.5 million, we might as well shut up shop,” he added.

    Israel currently has around 8.3 million people of which 75%(6.225 million) are Jewish. If you add Bibi’s high number of 1.5 million migrants, Israel would have around 9.8 million instead with 6.225 million (63.5%) being Jews.

    So according to Bibi if the Jewish population ever reaches as low as 63.5%, Israel might as well shut up shop. Well the USA was at least 85% European in 1965 and now we are coincidentally around 63.5% European today. I wonder if Bibi would advise us to shut up shop?

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    I wonder if Bibi would advise us to shut up shop?
     
    Privately? Of course he would.

    Bibi doesn't love us gentiles--he's a Jew and his interest is, properly, the welfare of other Jews.

    But i get no sense the Brett Stephens\David Rothkopf "grind them under our chariot wheels" style genocidal urges from Bibi. This is what having your own nation will do for you, and it's a very good thing. Good fences/neighbors.
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  58. Key design feature of wall must be a rock hard surface at the base of the USA side to punish climbers who fall.

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    Key design feature of wall must be a rock hard surface at the base of the USA side to punish climbers who fall.

     

    Or spikes. Yeah, I like spikes.
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  59. @Lot

    migrants more of a threat than terrorists
     
    I think a lot of concern about "Islamic terrorism" in the USA is more people evading PC censors about "Islamic migration." Between 9/11 and Merkel's million Muslims, the latter will prove to be the more destructive attack on the West.

    To do a bit of math, the one million, if they have the same murder rate once they get cozy in Germany of Brasilians, this implies they will commit about 260 murders a year. But the Brasilian rate includes women, children, and the elderly. Few of Merkel's million fit that description. So 500 excess murders a year is probably more realistic. Thus the 9/11 death toll gets beat after only 6 years.

    But it gets worse. How many deadly traffic accidents do these guys cause? How many die from diseases they introduce? And finally, how many native Germans, now facing higher taxes, less housing availability, worse neighborhoods, and worse schools, decide not to have no or fewer children?

    Long-term impact of Merkel's Million over a 30 year period I'd wager is over 25,000 dead and never-born native Germans. And that is just part of the demographic impact, and not getting into the cultural and economic impact.

    Between 9/11 and Merkel’s million Muslims, the latter will prove to be the more destructive attack on the West.

    That is a good point. But one thing you forget is that the USA has more muslims today than it did prior to 9-11. In other words we have taken in well over a million muslims since that attack. Now ours did not come in with the same fanfare that those in Germany did. But we still got them and they are now on their way to becoming a material percentage of our population.

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    I remember how W kept repeating "Islam is a religion of peace" in the aftermath of 911. He seemed intent on proving that "we ain't islamophobic" by going so far as to pray in a mosque in one photo op.

    That was also carried to an extreme by the refusal of the TSA to profile muslims as potential terrorists. Since the neocons became a controlling force in the US government, muslim immigration has been a priority.
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  60. @countenance
    Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

    … and none of them are closing. Guess why.

    Because Geoffrey hijacked the launch codes?

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  61. @International Jew
    Netanyahu's saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He's not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he'd put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.

    The current terrorist threat from across the Sinai border is low enough that it's patrolled by Israel's one mixed-gender infantry batallion.

    This is pilpul: both applications are legitimate and we like either one. You will not get around the fact that some people are allowed to state the obvious and some people had better keep their mouths shut.

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  62. The Israel fence with Egypt costs $3 million a mile.

    Includes fence, patrol road, and sensors.

    They raised it to 8 meters from 5 meters, that cut the breakins to under 20 a year.

    Trump set our height at 30 feet.

    The barrier with Gaza has to deal with with tunnels.

    Underground barriers and sensors are being deployed to thwart the tunnels.

    Anti vehicle ditches, hedgehogs, concrete walls, dragon teeth are possibilities in some areas.

    If the goal is to keep foreign invaders away from American lawyers, then a physical barrier backed up with sensors and quick armed response teams are a necessity.

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  63. @snorlax
    Israel actually cautioned Bush against invading Iraq — they correctly predicted that overthrowing Saddam and holding elections would result in an Iranian takeover.

    Snorlax, your link suggests that Sharon advised Bush to not occupy and install a democratic form of government. It doesn’t appear to suggest that Sharon did not want Bush to attack Iraq.

    Sharon’s words — revealed here for the first time — constituted a friendly but pointed warning to Bush. Sharon acknowledged that Saddam Hussein was an “acute threat” to the Middle East and that he believed Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction.

    Yet according to one knowledgeable source, Sharon nevertheless advised Bush not to occupy Iraq. According to another source — Danny Ayalon, who was Israel’s ambassador to the United States at the time of the Iraq invasion, and who sat in on the Bush-Sharon meetings — Sharon told Bush that Israel would not “push one way or another” regarding the Iraq scheme.

    According to both sources, Sharon warned Bush that if he insisted on occupying Iraq, he should at least abandon his plan to implant democracy in this part of the world. “In terms of culture and tradition, the Arab world is not built for democratization,” Ayalon recalls Sharon advising.

    On the contrary this link from CBS seems to suggest Sharon’s government wanted the US to move ahead.

    Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.

    Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.

    “Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose,” Gissin said. “It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction.”

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    That story's dated August 18, 2002; at that point they may've assumed "military strikes" meant a few airstrikes to create a rally-around-the-flag effect ahead of the midterm elections.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq#Preparations_for_war

    While there had been some earlier talk of action against Iraq, the Bush administration waited until September 2002 to call for action, with White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card saying, "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August."[45] Bush began formally making his case to the international community for an invasion of Iraq in his 12 September 2002 address to the UN Security Council.[46]
     
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  64. Small wonder, he owns the jihadists.
    Still, nice anti-shitlib argument, readily weaponised.

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  65. @Dmitry

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

     

    If you walk in the nice (expensive) areas of London, the non-British immigrants all seem very civilized.

    The problem is if you walk into the dangerous parts of London, like the Eastern side, or South of the River Thame.

    This again goes to the beautiful comment of Trump vis-a-vis immigration to America: "they're not sending their best".

    The problem (or most obvious problem - I'm not saying a country should not have 0 immigrants, if it chooses) is flooding of the worst cattle into these countries, without filtration system to select desirable traits.

    It is like if Harvard University, has decided to flood its admissions with all the stupidest people in the world. It's not going to last long as a desirable university.

    I don’t disagree with the ethos and the heart of your posting, but your analysis of poor old London is a bit simplistic.
    An Englishman feels more alienated in beautiful Holland Park, with its 3rd world nannies pushing prams filled with baby oil trash, than he does in the gentrifying East End, with its craft breweries filled with English and American hipsters working in Shoreditch startups. As for ‘South of the Thames’, try buying a flat in Putney or Battersea. Expensive, but at least these are still real places compared to the billionaire freak shows that are Mayfair and Knightsbridge.

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    I don’t disagree with the ethos and the heart of your posting, but your analysis of poor old London is a bit simplistic.
    An Englishman feels more alienated in beautiful Holland Park, with its 3rd world nannies pushing prams filled with baby oil trash, than he does in the gentrifying East End, with its craft breweries filled with English and American hipsters working in Shoreditch startups. As for ‘South of the Thames’, try buying a flat in Putney or Battersea. Expensive, but at least these are still real places compared to the billionaire freak shows that are Mayfair and Knightsbridge.
     
    Well overall point. For me, London seems still very civilized (more than an American city), as long as you don't enter the poor or dangerous areas.

    The multi-national atmosphere even in rich areas, does spoil a bit the cultural atmosphere - which for tourist, you want to still the old English culture. But the upper class from other countries, does not bring an uncivilized atmosphere. That is the produce of the working class immigrants, which fuck the poorer areas of the city.
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  66. @Dmitry

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

     

    If you walk in the nice (expensive) areas of London, the non-British immigrants all seem very civilized.

    The problem is if you walk into the dangerous parts of London, like the Eastern side, or South of the River Thame.

    This again goes to the beautiful comment of Trump vis-a-vis immigration to America: "they're not sending their best".

    The problem (or most obvious problem - I'm not saying a country should not have 0 immigrants, if it chooses) is flooding of the worst cattle into these countries, without filtration system to select desirable traits.

    It is like if Harvard University, has decided to flood its admissions with all the stupidest people in the world. It's not going to last long as a desirable university.

    The problem …is flooding of the worst …

    The problem is “flooding” period. Immigration of a few, who do not materially change the demographics, is one thing. Mass immigration is another, regardless of whether the immigrants are civilized or not.

    As Tucker Carlson recently said, “this is more change than human beings are designed to digest”. Here is a 90 second clip of Tucker spelling out what is the heart of the issue.

    #ICYMI Check out the segment from tonight about the changing demographics in America pic.twitter.com/eM1VJkN8OG— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) March 20, 2018

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  67. Why is it only the Israelis can talk sense on this issue? Is it because their backs are closer to the wall?

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  68. DIMONA (ISRAEL) (AFP) – Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday that an electronic fence along the Israel-Egypt border has saved the Jewish state from jihadist attacks or what he believes would be worse — a tide of African migrants.

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,” Netanyahu’s office quoted him as telling a development conference in the southern Israel desert town of Dimona.

    My personal thanks to Netanyahu for that quote. That’s pretty great against special pleading for Israeli border security because terrorism.

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  69. @Issac
    Meretz will be the death of us. May G-d smite them and their diaspora friends.

    May G-d smite them

    I guess you don’t believe in him but, it’s ok to type the word “God”.

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  70. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Whatever one’s opinion of Israel is, one is forced to admit that Israelis have had to pay a very heavy price – in terms of military attacks, terrorist incidents, international opprobrium etc – for their determination to construct a Jewish national home.
    Obviously, if massive immigration of gentiles renders Jews a minority in their purported ‘national home’, all of that sacrifice and struggle would have been rendered meaningless.

    The further point, is that exactly same argument can, to the fullest extent, to virtually every single European nation state, in that their national characters were only established by means of hard struggle and blood sacrifice.

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  71. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    Thinking about this in another way, what Bibi is saying is that immigration is worse than war. This is a topic that has come up before on this blog. I recall a discussion about Poland where people contrasted the UK and Poland from 1939 to today.

    Poland was invaded by two giants in 1939. At least 6 million were killed. The infrastructure was totally destroyed. Poland then endured a forty-plus year occupation by the communists until 1989.

    Meanwhile the UK, although severely damaged by the war, was on the wining side and resisted being invaded by the Germans.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    So the Polish-UK example shows that immigration is more of a threat than war and occupation. And now PM Netanyahu has basically confirmed this by saying he considers migrants more of a threat than terrorists.

    Already, 30% of English 15 year olds have a ‘migration background’, according to information released by PISA.
    That’s bad enough – unthinkable even in Powell’s day, let alone pre 1940 – but considering the historic and immutable growth rates of that particular statistic, it’s pretty much a certainty that the figure will breast 50% – ie majority – in 20 years’ time.

    The takeaway is that, inevitably, the indigenous ethnic English will form a small minority, around 10 to 20% of the English population by 2100.

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  72. @Dmitry

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

     

    If you walk in the nice (expensive) areas of London, the non-British immigrants all seem very civilized.

    The problem is if you walk into the dangerous parts of London, like the Eastern side, or South of the River Thame.

    This again goes to the beautiful comment of Trump vis-a-vis immigration to America: "they're not sending their best".

    The problem (or most obvious problem - I'm not saying a country should not have 0 immigrants, if it chooses) is flooding of the worst cattle into these countries, without filtration system to select desirable traits.

    It is like if Harvard University, has decided to flood its admissions with all the stupidest people in the world. It's not going to last long as a desirable university.

    Actually, Eamomn De Valera first said that about Irish emigrants to the UK.

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  73. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Also, very long ladders are a nightmare to erect, due to the mathematical principle of ‘turning moments’.

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  74. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    If that is not an indictment on a certain demographic I don't know what is. Illegals from Africa are not just as bad as terrorists, they are not just worse than terrorists, but they are much worse than terrorists.

    Given that we readily use Israeli intel to formulate major policy decisions, such as the 2003 Iraq Attack, why doesn't Trump use this major piece of intel on a particular demographic to immediately shut down all visas from this area? I'd love to see Schumer and company complain in public about terminating visas from these areas. Trump could reply, "Bibi says they are much worse than terrorists." How is Schumer going to reply to that?

    Yawn. You’re using the word ‘worse’ out of its context. The context is a ‘worse’ specific threat to Israel right now given all of their security measures.

    I am worse than Hitler (at speaking German.) You’re just stupid.

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    Call me stupid! You get like extra points and stuff if you call me stupid! I think there's an oversized teddy bear and/or plush koi if you call one of us retarded without getting in trouble for it! You are like as though totally a lawyer or something!
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  75. Anyone have a link to that recent tweet where an Israeli minister was quoted saying that maintaining a jewish majority trumps all, even human rights?

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  76. @tsotha
    Why is it only the Israelis can talk sense on this issue? Is it because their backs are closer to the wall?

    Is it because of their relative powerlessness?
    And then laughter. Intended brilliance sent flying like a startled flock of birds by laughter.

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  77. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    Perhaps, a determined infiltrator could take a diamond drill with him, and insert anchor bolts, rock climber style, at strategic intervals, to ‘tie in’ ropes etc.
    Or else, perhaps, bring in a truck load of scaffolding fittings and erect a tower.

    Best avoided by the inclusion of a ‘circular finial’, of large radius upon the wall parapet.

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    Wouldn't need a drill if the bottom of the wall is see thru with bars. Just throw a rope or a two ropes configured with steps over the top and fish it through with a hook to anchor the bottom.
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  78. @Tyrion 2
    Yawn. You're using the word 'worse' out of its context. The context is a 'worse' specific threat to Israel right now given all of their security measures.

    I am worse than Hitler (at speaking German.) You're just stupid.

    Call me stupid! You get like extra points and stuff if you call me stupid! I think there’s an oversized teddy bear and/or plush koi if you call one of us retarded without getting in trouble for it! You are like as though totally a lawyer or something!

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  79. @Dov
    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    Jews are race-realists when it comes to Israel and Jewish interests. It is only gentiles who are expected to buy into the diversity-is-strength nonsense.

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  80. @Moses

    Netanyahu said a tide of non-Jewish immigration would threaten the very fabric of Israel.
     
    B-b-b-but...don't they know diversity makes them stronger?

    And think of all the awesome new ethnic restaurants!

    Netanyahu is obviously an anti-Semitic, white Christian supremacist.

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  81. @bartok
    Never Forget ... that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.

    So all the other Jews voted for Clinton then?

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  82. @International Jew
    Israel is giving US military technology to China, in exchange for access to the hottest new toys? Is that the right answer?

    That’s hilarious!

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  83. Better Jihad than Jungle.

    Better Beirut than Detroit.

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  84. Netanyahu said a tide of non-Jewish immigration would threaten the very fabric of Israel.

    Do you suppose Bill Kristol will tell Bibi that Israel would be better off if the dynamic, motivated immigrants replaced the lazy Jewish population?

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  85. @bartok
    Never Forget ... that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.

    IIRC, admittedly from a smallish sample (Lord Ashcroft’s polls), a small majority of UK Jews voted for Brexit.

    It’s just that they aren’t the ones writing Times and Guardian op-eds.

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    Yes, the ones with the stereotypically-Jewish views on sociopolitical matters are also the ones who, like stereotypical Jews, whine and screech in newspapers and on TV.

    What's a fella like me to do, other than post some sense on FB from time to time?
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  86. I’m actually surprised Israel doesn’t work out a deal with Eritrea and dump its migrants back there. There’d be howls of protests but Israel is already a pariah in Western Leftist circles what’s the big deal?

    As for Sudan, I don’t believe they recognize Israel but here too I’m sure something can be arranged. I do like how Israel is handling this overall, their courts may get in the way but it’s nice to see the executive leadership and majority of the people are on the same page on immigration.

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  87. @countenance
    Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

    Mitt Romney?

    But in all due seriousness, this is the 2nd toy chain that has been sunk by Bain Capital. KB Toys was also destroyed by a Bain-driven leveraged buyout. Those guys are like real-life Grinches.

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  88. No wonder they’re trying to arrest Bibi.

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  89. @Dmitry
    Areas of South Tel Aviv, where the illegal immigrants settled, actually feel like a warzone.

    It's not entirely fair to blame the illegal immigrants - these were third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city already before the illegal immigrants came.

    It was a backwards slum before they came. Although at least there was apparently previously still personal safety and a warm atmosphere, which was transformed now into an area of violence and rape.

    But the illegal immigration has really fucked parts of the city. (Just like Arab culture fucked the atmosphere in Jaffa).

    I feel sorry for the illegal immigrants there. But I don't see how situation is sustainable or not going to lead to 'warzone' with the other population groups.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MNpmlqUglE

    This is like Calais. Horror.

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  90. @Dmitry
    I don't see anything as 'racial' to do with it. I am anti-racist, and can still see the problems.

    Situation in Israel is just fucked with the illegal immigrants.

    I was there (not for my first time) last month, and have explored areas which feel like you are in Sudan, where whole parts of Tel Aviv are only living Sudanese Muslims.

    I don't know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    And you can see the kind of legal issues they have, with their ultra-liberal system:

    ‘Can illegal immigrant get legal status by committing rape?’

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243226
     

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    Give that guy credit for expertly assimilating to the jewish culture of sociopathic chutzpah.

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  91. But here is some irony; in this very same speech, where Netanyahu dropped such heavy red pills of race realism, he also indulged in some politically correct victimology, as he was addressing the audience of lower-class Middle Eastern Mizrahi Jews, whose ancestors had been discriminated against by the snobbish Ashkenazi elite of Israel. Bibi promised to make it up for them, so that they would vote for him:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-flood-of-african-migrants-worse-than-sinai-terrorists/

    Quote:

    “Netanyahu also referred to the movie “The Ancestral Sin” (“Sallah, Po Ze Eretz Yisrael”), which used testimonials and previously sealed transcripts to depict discriminatory policies in the first two decades of the state against Jews from North Africa, particularly the Moroccans. Many of the recent immigrants from north Africa were housed in development towns in the Negev.

    “In wake of the film ‘The Ancestral Sin,’ I instructed the Cabinet Secretary to check the issue with the World Zionist Organization,” he said. “The check showed that while the documents are indeed open, they are not accessible. Therefore I made a decision – they will be accessible to everyone in Israel, to everyone in the world, completely accessible. As we did with the Yemenite children affair, so we will do here.”

    These Mizrahi Jews are like Israel’s version of “poor White trash,” or “racist rednecks,” whom the liberal-minded Tel Aviv hipsters look down to. It’s probably no co-incidence wonder that Netanyahu was so populist and anti-Negro when talking to them.

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  92. @27 year old

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.
     
    Give that guy credit for expertly assimilating to the jewish culture of sociopathic chutzpah.

    Not looked at the story, but I think it can be “rape” in Israel if you deceive the girl as to your Jewish status. IIRC a pale Palestinian got convicted on those grounds a few years ago.

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    Not really. What actually happened in that case is that the victim girl was mentally retarded and could not give legal consent and so was legally real rape raped, but rather than making her and her family go through a trial the prosecutor and defense just decided to have the perp plead down to the archaic rape by deception. However as with everything else that happens in Israel it took on mythical proportions as the story spread, and became supposedly about the perp lying about being Jewish.
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  93. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dmitry
    I don't see anything as 'racial' to do with it. I am anti-racist, and can still see the problems.

    Situation in Israel is just fucked with the illegal immigrants.

    I was there (not for my first time) last month, and have explored areas which feel like you are in Sudan, where whole parts of Tel Aviv are only living Sudanese Muslims.

    I don't know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    And you can see the kind of legal issues they have, with their ultra-liberal system:

    ‘Can illegal immigrant get legal status by committing rape?’

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243226
     

    Israel’s location has always made it highly vulnerable to migration flows, but I was always under the impression that the government did a reasonably good job of enforcing the borders and keeping people who realistically can’t contribute to a modern economy out, if for no other reason then the fact that there are a lot of people in Israel who make Bibi look like a bleeding-heart hippie on the issue. Guess not.

    >I don’t know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    No, but it sounds very similar to what a lot of courts in the US do with illegal aliens from Central America. They don’t bring the potential of a terrorism threat with them, granted (something the US traditionally has not had to deal with, as American Muslims are on the whole-exceptions do exist with “European style” Muslim communities in Minneapolis and Dearborn, but they are just that, exceptions-a lot better adjusted and far more productive than Europe’s, for a host of reasons), but many of them are still some seriously scary people coming from some of the most per capita violent societies on the globe. Whole schools have been infested with MS-13-the recent spate of killings in the US news-yet many local precincts will do everything in their power to prevent the government from doing its job.

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/19/c_136907921.htm

    California even announced its intention to prosecute any employers that cooperate with immigration authorities. Apparently obeying federal laws is a crime now.

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  94. @istevefan
    Snorlax, your link suggests that Sharon advised Bush to not occupy and install a democratic form of government. It doesn't appear to suggest that Sharon did not want Bush to attack Iraq.

    Sharon’s words — revealed here for the first time — constituted a friendly but pointed warning to Bush. Sharon acknowledged that Saddam Hussein was an “acute threat” to the Middle East and that he believed Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction.

    Yet according to one knowledgeable source, Sharon nevertheless advised Bush not to occupy Iraq. According to another source — Danny Ayalon, who was Israel’s ambassador to the United States at the time of the Iraq invasion, and who sat in on the Bush-Sharon meetings — Sharon told Bush that Israel would not “push one way or another” regarding the Iraq scheme.

    According to both sources, Sharon warned Bush that if he insisted on occupying Iraq, he should at least abandon his plan to implant democracy in this part of the world. “In terms of culture and tradition, the Arab world is not built for democratization,” Ayalon recalls Sharon advising.
     
    On the contrary this link from CBS seems to suggest Sharon's government wanted the US to move ahead.

    Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq's Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.

    Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.

    "Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose," Gissin said. "It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction."
     

    That story’s dated August 18, 2002; at that point they may’ve assumed “military strikes” meant a few airstrikes to create a rally-around-the-flag effect ahead of the midterm elections.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq#Preparations_for_war

    While there had been some earlier talk of action against Iraq, the Bush administration waited until September 2002 to call for action, with White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card saying, “From a marketing point of view, you don’t introduce new products in August.”[45] Bush began formally making his case to the international community for an invasion of Iraq in his 12 September 2002 address to the UN Security Council.[46]

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  95. @Dmitry
    Areas of South Tel Aviv, where the illegal immigrants settled, actually feel like a warzone.

    It's not entirely fair to blame the illegal immigrants - these were third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city already before the illegal immigrants came.

    It was a backwards slum before they came. Although at least there was apparently previously still personal safety and a warm atmosphere, which was transformed now into an area of violence and rape.

    But the illegal immigration has really fucked parts of the city. (Just like Arab culture fucked the atmosphere in Jaffa).

    I feel sorry for the illegal immigrants there. But I don't see how situation is sustainable or not going to lead to 'warzone' with the other population groups.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MNpmlqUglE

    third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city

    If those Arab Jews were in America they would be middle class or successful businessmen. But in Israel they are slum dwellers. What gives?

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    If those Arab Jews were in America they would be middle class or successful businessmen. But in Israel they are slum dwellers. What gives?

     

    Partly because the more middle class Arab Jews (from countries like Morocco), settled in (what was in the 1950s) more desirable countries like France and Canada. Whereas the most working class and gullible ones, ended up in Israel.

    It's the same reason, other slums in Israel ended up full of adidas-obsessed gopnik type of people from Former Soviet Union countries. I.e. 'Russian ghetto' slums in Israel. Whereas people like Jan Koum and Sergey Brin managed to get to California.

    That's not to say, all Arab Jews in Israel are working class (they have plenty of smarter people as well, but overall culture is very proletarian).
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  96. @Barnard
    Schumer would put some daylight between his position and Netayahu's. That is fairly routine for leftists Jews in the US.

    It’s never a full-throated denouncement, though, as you imply. There’s never an accusation of racism. As you said, there’s mild criticism but with the critics secure in the knowledge that their co-ethnics will never allow to happen in israel what they themselves have been pursuing in the US.

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  97. @countenance
    Toys-R-Us locations in the United States are closing.

    There are a handful of Toys-R-Us stores in Israel, and none of them are closing.

    Guess why.

    Israelis are still having kids…hence toys.

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  98. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    31 Lot > What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder?

    …while being fired upon

    The borders in the Negev are patrolled by the co-ed units (light infantry), but on the western border, detachments of the heavy infantry (all male: Golani, Givati, etc) is frequently on hand as well

    Light infantry is infantry. They are not a gendarmerie. They shoot to kill, and are equipped to do it.

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  99. @Dmitry
    Areas of South Tel Aviv, where the illegal immigrants settled, actually feel like a warzone.

    It's not entirely fair to blame the illegal immigrants - these were third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city already before the illegal immigrants came.

    It was a backwards slum before they came. Although at least there was apparently previously still personal safety and a warm atmosphere, which was transformed now into an area of violence and rape.

    But the illegal immigration has really fucked parts of the city. (Just like Arab culture fucked the atmosphere in Jaffa).

    I feel sorry for the illegal immigrants there. But I don't see how situation is sustainable or not going to lead to 'warzone' with the other population groups.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MNpmlqUglE

    Stop exaggerating, I don’t see a war zone. I see a whole bunch of poor people, Africans (mostly Eritreans) and and non-African selling stuff and milling around relaxed.

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    Almost 99 percent seem to be military aged males. DO they have any women or do they mate with the Israeli females?
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  100. @International Jew
    Netanyahu's saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He's not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he'd put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.

    The current terrorist threat from across the Sinai border is low enough that it's patrolled by Israel's one mixed-gender infantry batallion.

    39 International Jew > one mixed-gender infantry batallion

    you need to visit more often. There’s three

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  101. @anon
    "Hey man, not all Jews are SJW's. I know this Israeli chick and she's based." - Could that be because her co-ethnics who own the media in your country have mind-f**ked you, while sparing their own in their own country?

    Could the explanation for a culture of race realism in Israel and race-denialism in the diaspora be because Jews control the media and culture in both? And, what's good for the Jews in the diaspora is the opposite of what's good for them in Isreal? Could it also be that this hypocrisy wasn't necessarily a conscious decision "hehe let's be hypocritical",** but just Jews responding to incentives, and then creating cultural environments in both that serve their interests in both, via the media?

    Could it be that the whole "grand Jewish conspiracy" explanation represents a disconnect between the "conscious decision to be hypocritical" hypothesis and the reality: responding to the environment and creating the justification for what's best for your people on an ad hoc basis?

    Also, a large part of the reason that Sweden is so liberal is because 6/8 of its largest newspapers*** (and a ton of other media) are owned by families of significantly Jewish heritage. (Bonnier and Hjorne****)

    ** Isn't this the manifestation of most real world hypocrisy?

    *** See the names of the companies that own the largest "morning" and "evening" newspapers.

    **** Bonnier owns 5/8 of the largest newspapers. Hjorne's owns 1/8 of the largest, and over 20 more. Peter Hjorne's maternal grandmother was Jewish. Aina Kaplan. He paid to have all of the school children in Goteborg go see Schindler's list when it came out, so it's reasonable to presume that his heritage means something to him.

    40 anon > are owned by families of significantly Jewish heritage

    in Sweden, freedom of the press belongs to those who own one.

    sorry to hear that you spent all your money on NFL regalia. Not all Swedish Jewish families did that.

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  102. @Dov
    Another racial-realist Jew? We sure are a rare breed.

    Is Netanyahu’s race realism rare, or do elite diaspora Jews (Boas, Gould etc.) tell deliberate lies to demoralize the host nation and thus gain ethnic advantage?

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    Fair question. I know a large amount of young American Jews, and the majority of them believe in racial egalitarianism hook, line, and sinker. I've brought up Black Panther, for instance, with them, and been told how important it was for Blacks' morale to have this kind of movie produced - and this occurred in all-Jewish settings (e.g., Sabbath dinners). And I have several friends with whom I express my racial views in the most unbridled manner, but they remain unconvinced.

    I've been a reader of AmRen for about six years, and gone back and forth on more "hardcore" realist sites, so lots of my acquaintances know where I stand on race and Jews as a sociopolitical force. But it would be just as great a social "faux pas" if I were to frankly discuss race among Jews as it would be if I were to do so among, say, non-Jewish Whites.
    , @Anonymous
    The function of the lies is as much to spread disinformation and deny useful knowledge as it is to demoralize.
    , @Karl
    102 John Gruskos > or do elite diaspora Jews

    who are those? the ones that Garibaldi and iSteve prefer to quote?

    if you even BELIEVE that there exists an "elite"..... then you have already surrendered to their Hollywood propaganda

    and people wonder why a lightweight like Aviva Chomsky is able to operate. It's because: in the planet of the blind whites like Gruskos, the Jewess with half a functioning eyeball looks like a goddess.


    you want to see an elite Jew? Get the to an IDF Officer's Training campfire
    , @Karl
    102 John Gruskos > or do elite diaspora Jews

    who are those? the ones that Garibaldi and iSteve prefer to quote?

    if you even BELIEVE that there exists an "elite"..... then you have already surrendered to their Hollywood propaganda

    and people wonder why a lightweight like Aviva Chomsky is able to operate. It's because: in the planet of the blind whites like Gruskos, the Jewess with half a functioning eyeball looks like a goddess.


    you want to see an elite Jew? Get thee to an IDF Officer's Training campfire
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  103. @Barnard
    Yes, I read that Mitt Romney's friends at Bain Capital played a sigmificant role in the demise of Toys R Us. Bain convinced them to take on the unsustainable debt load.

    Leveraged buy-outs have killed a lot of viable companies. The ‘investors’ in the bonds don’t care; they’re institutional and are insured.

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  104. @Anon
    OT: The Austin bombings. I bet it's Antifa. They're been egging each other on to get serious with violence, and they're all giddy with excitement at the prospect of it. I'm pretty certain it's someone(s) young, because the criminal in question would have been setting off bombs for the last two decades if it were someone older.

    Secondly, the person appears to have had help in the bomb-making and plotting stages. There have been six explosions since March 2, and from the rate of bomb construction and the whole thinking through where they ought to go, this looks like the work of more than one person. Thus an Antifa cell may be behind this, some involved in sourcing and purchasing the materials, and some in the construction, and some in the placement and plotting behind the bombs.

    The location is also interesting. There's an old rule that leftists always crap in their own nests, (blacks always riot and burn their own ghettos down) and Austin is a hotbed of excitable young liberals prone to Antifa-joining and SJW grandstanding.

    The authorities identified the bomber, who blew himself up rather than be arrested. His identity is being withheld pending notification of his family. All we know is that he was a 24 year-old “white” male.

    Since we’ll know more in a short while (unless Austin authorities pull a Las Vegas), I think that I’ll not speculate concerning further information about his identity or motives,

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  105. @Anonymous
    Key design feature of wall must be a rock hard surface at the base of the USA side to punish climbers who fall.

    Key design feature of wall must be a rock hard surface at the base of the USA side to punish climbers who fall.

    Or spikes. Yeah, I like spikes.

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    We ought to have guard towers at frequent intervals, manned by troops who are required to shoot to kill anyone crossing the border without our permission.
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  106. @Svigor

    DIMONA (ISRAEL) (AFP) – Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday that an electronic fence along the Israel-Egypt border has saved the Jewish state from jihadist attacks or what he believes would be worse — a tide of African migrants.

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,” Netanyahu’s office quoted him as telling a development conference in the southern Israel desert town of Dimona.
     
    My personal thanks to Netanyahu for that quote. That's pretty great against special pleading for Israeli border security because terrorism.

    Good take.

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  107. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    The American Jewish press hasn’t mentioned Netanyahu’s opinion of African immigrants.

    I assume by “The American Jewish press” you mean the mainstream media? Well here’s a small sampling of the critical articles that the NY Times has dedicated to Israel vis. its African migrants in recent weeks:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/opinion/israel-refugees-africa.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/world/middleeast/israel-migrants-african.html

    But maybe you mean the actual Jewish press, as in news sites for the Jewish community. Well here’s what the most prominent one has had to say on the topic:

    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/257974/israels-chief-rabbi-calls-african-americans-monkeys

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  108. @Barnard
    Yes, I read that Mitt Romney's friends at Bain Capital played a sigmificant role in the demise of Toys R Us. Bain convinced them to take on the unsustainable debt load.

    Yes, I read that Mitt Romney’s friends at Bain Capital played a sigmificant role in the demise of Toys R Us. Bain convinced them to take on the unsustainable debt load.

    Good. Kids don’t need all that crap in those stores. Some wooden blocks, maybe a toy car, a doll or two for the girls. The bigger lego clones–forget what they are called–are good for toddler ages. Maybe snap trains at some toddler aged Christmas.

    Kids should be building stuff and using their imaginations. It doesn’t take a whole lot. They certainly don’t need piles and piles of random crap which is what those stores are full of.

    Of course, what they also need is parents to *not* expose them–i.e. park them in front of–television and just let their brains develop normally. I can pretty much tell good parenting from bad just by whether you walk in the house and the TV is babysitting the kids.

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    Is that all, really? Would be a relief if it were the case.

    Would you mind providing us with a definitive/comprehensive list of the toys and building blocks that are needed? Please? Could really lessen the burden on a lot of parents and prospective parents.

    What do you have against television? It's not like they are staring at a blank wall. TV is filled with clever people and verbal gymnastics.
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  109. @bartok
    Never Forget ... that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.

    Never Forget … that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.

    Weak.

    Honestly i’m embarrassed for any “man” who voted for the incompetent, tedious, lying, hectoring PCLFH (Protestant Church Lady from Hell). They should have to cut off their penis and give it back.

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  110. @Anon
    OT: The Austin bombings. I bet it's Antifa. They're been egging each other on to get serious with violence, and they're all giddy with excitement at the prospect of it. I'm pretty certain it's someone(s) young, because the criminal in question would have been setting off bombs for the last two decades if it were someone older.

    Secondly, the person appears to have had help in the bomb-making and plotting stages. There have been six explosions since March 2, and from the rate of bomb construction and the whole thinking through where they ought to go, this looks like the work of more than one person. Thus an Antifa cell may be behind this, some involved in sourcing and purchasing the materials, and some in the construction, and some in the placement and plotting behind the bombs.

    The location is also interesting. There's an old rule that leftists always crap in their own nests, (blacks always riot and burn their own ghettos down) and Austin is a hotbed of excitable young liberals prone to Antifa-joining and SJW grandstanding.

    If this guy had any remote 6-degrees of separation from “the alt right” or “Trump”, you’ll know shortly.

    If he didn’t–including being a card carrying member of antifa–you’re never going to hear about this “lone wolf” again.

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  111. This must be that ‘alt-right’ I keep hearing so much about.

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  112. @istevefan

    Netanyahu’s saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He’s not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he’d put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.
     
    I don't know the whole story about Africans in Israel, but I did hear something about Bibi wanting to get rid of 40K Africans ASAP. This is not trying to stop a future stream of Africans or potential problem, but rather to eliminate a current problem that apparently does pose a threat to Israel. So his actions in this case seem to speak louder than his words, or at least to the way you interpret them.

    He also said this:

    “After a million, 1.5 million, we might as well shut up shop,” he added.
     
    Israel currently has around 8.3 million people of which 75%(6.225 million) are Jewish. If you add Bibi's high number of 1.5 million migrants, Israel would have around 9.8 million instead with 6.225 million (63.5%) being Jews.

    So according to Bibi if the Jewish population ever reaches as low as 63.5%, Israel might as well shut up shop. Well the USA was at least 85% European in 1965 and now we are coincidentally around 63.5% European today. I wonder if Bibi would advise us to shut up shop?

    I wonder if Bibi would advise us to shut up shop?

    Privately? Of course he would.

    Bibi doesn’t love us gentiles–he’s a Jew and his interest is, properly, the welfare of other Jews.

    But i get no sense the Brett Stephens\David Rothkopf “grind them under our chariot wheels” style genocidal urges from Bibi. This is what having your own nation will do for you, and it’s a very good thing. Good fences/neighbors.

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  113. @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    Thinking about this in another way, what Bibi is saying is that immigration is worse than war. This is a topic that has come up before on this blog. I recall a discussion about Poland where people contrasted the UK and Poland from 1939 to today.

    Poland was invaded by two giants in 1939. At least 6 million were killed. The infrastructure was totally destroyed. Poland then endured a forty-plus year occupation by the communists until 1989.

    Meanwhile the UK, although severely damaged by the war, was on the wining side and resisted being invaded by the Germans.

    Today the UK finds itself undergoing unheard of demographic change for them in which the white British population (was that even a term in 1940) will become a minority by 2100. Meanwhile, the Polish still own Poland with a 98% or higher share of the population.

    So the Polish-UK example shows that immigration is more of a threat than war and occupation. And now PM Netanyahu has basically confirmed this by saying he considers migrants more of a threat than terrorists.

    That’s a very interesting observation. Unchecked immigration is an invasion, of sorts, and the eventual relegation of the original population to minority status amounts to occupation by the invaders. It really is as simple as that, IMO.

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  114. @Louis Renault
    The senior management of Toys-R-Us Isreal didn't pile on the debt so high that the cash flow wouldn't service it, thus forcing the company into bankruptcy liquidation - thus allowing the same senior management team or their associates to buy up all the pieces for pennies on the shekel and spin off the rest to the suckers who bought the bonds?

    As they usually are, the leveraged buyout and massive debt it could not service was the fatal flaw that doomed Toys-R-US in the United States.

    David Stockman has a beautiful expose on the mechanics of leveraged buyouts in his book, “The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America”. He explains how Wall Street engineered leveraged buyouts of car company suppliers that doomed the original General Motors and Chrysler … should anyone remember that fiasco.

    As Stockman explains, the new buyers borrow money to buy companies, make a killing on fees, sell company assets to Wall Street holding companies and lease them back … and then the massive debt for all of this falls on the companies. The companies become “debt zombies” devoid of assets while what used to be profit now services Wall Street-owned debt. A slight downturn in the economy and the companies are history.

    Wall Street’s justification is that massive debt is good for companies and the country because it makes the economy more efficient. Companies and C-level officers faced with massive debt have to work harder and smarter, you see, to keep from going under. A better name for leveraged buyouts might be “asset stripping” as a prelude to foreclosure.

    Does anyone remember the Fruehauf truck trailers that used to crowd the nation’s highways? Fruehauf also folded after a leveraged buyout.

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  115. @istevefan

    Between 9/11 and Merkel’s million Muslims, the latter will prove to be the more destructive attack on the West.
     
    That is a good point. But one thing you forget is that the USA has more muslims today than it did prior to 9-11. In other words we have taken in well over a million muslims since that attack. Now ours did not come in with the same fanfare that those in Germany did. But we still got them and they are now on their way to becoming a material percentage of our population.

    I remember how W kept repeating “Islam is a religion of peace” in the aftermath of 911. He seemed intent on proving that “we ain’t islamophobic” by going so far as to pray in a mosque in one photo op.

    That was also carried to an extreme by the refusal of the TSA to profile muslims as potential terrorists. Since the neocons became a controlling force in the US government, muslim immigration has been a priority.

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  116. @Anonymous
    Perhaps, a determined infiltrator could take a diamond drill with him, and insert anchor bolts, rock climber style, at strategic intervals, to 'tie in' ropes etc.
    Or else, perhaps, bring in a truck load of scaffolding fittings and erect a tower.

    Best avoided by the inclusion of a 'circular finial', of large radius upon the wall parapet.

    Wouldn’t need a drill if the bottom of the wall is see thru with bars. Just throw a rope or a two ropes configured with steps over the top and fish it through with a hook to anchor the bottom.

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    Why would the bottom of the wall be transparent or have open spaces covered only by bars?

    Also, let’s reject the apparent assumption that our border force would stand by while a weakness in the wall is exploited. We should simply have guard towers, at frequent intervals, with National Guard troops that machine-gun aliens trying to cross the border against our will.
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  117. @larry lurker
    Is it an Israeli thing? I worked with an Israeli who was so race realist that I felt comfortable bringing up race and IQ stuff with her - something I normally try to avoid doing in the workplace. She reacted as if I wasn't telling her anything she didn't already know or at least suspect.

    According to Esquire Magazine, israeli jews love black people.

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a32848/donald-sterling-culture/

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  118. That quite is shockingly direct and honest. Of course Israel is horrified at the prospect of an African migrant tide, but they were wisely steering that issue out of the press and public attention. I presume this press coverage is a deliberate result of professional pro-migration agitators.

    One counter-punch to open borders: open admission at universities. Arguably, any student should have full legal rights to enroll in classes at government funded universities (even private universities are funded by government). The whole premise of selective admission, grading, and ranking is to increase and formalize inequality. Why not push for equality and give every citizen the right to enroll in classes?

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  119. @John Gruskos
    Is Netanyahu's race realism rare, or do elite diaspora Jews (Boas, Gould etc.) tell deliberate lies to demoralize the host nation and thus gain ethnic advantage?

    Fair question. I know a large amount of young American Jews, and the majority of them believe in racial egalitarianism hook, line, and sinker. I’ve brought up Black Panther, for instance, with them, and been told how important it was for Blacks’ morale to have this kind of movie produced – and this occurred in all-Jewish settings (e.g., Sabbath dinners). And I have several friends with whom I express my racial views in the most unbridled manner, but they remain unconvinced.

    I’ve been a reader of AmRen for about six years, and gone back and forth on more “hardcore” realist sites, so lots of my acquaintances know where I stand on race and Jews as a sociopolitical force. But it would be just as great a social “faux pas” if I were to frankly discuss race among Jews as it would be if I were to do so among, say, non-Jewish Whites.

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    119 Dov > But it would be just as great a social “faux pas” if I were to frankly discuss race among Jews as it would be if I were to do so among, say, non-Jewish Whites.


    it's not our fault that you have chosen the wrong social circles

    for you, I recommend aliyah to a heavily Ethiopian neighborhood in the likes of Dimona; there's always work for a native-English speaker who is willing to work for a public-school-teacher's salary.

    The ethiopians are mostly right wing, and....

    .... you'd get better pussy than you're getting now, shipmate.

    to my gentile friends here: stop being so whiny. You too can get permanent residence here. Judging by the ACTUAL STATISTICS, you only need the determination of an average Filipina.
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  120. @YetAnotherAnon
    IIRC, admittedly from a smallish sample (Lord Ashcroft's polls), a small majority of UK Jews voted for Brexit.

    It's just that they aren't the ones writing Times and Guardian op-eds.

    Yes, the ones with the stereotypically-Jewish views on sociopolitical matters are also the ones who, like stereotypical Jews, whine and screech in newspapers and on TV.

    What’s a fella like me to do, other than post some sense on FB from time to time?

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  121. @Dmitry
    I don't see anything as 'racial' to do with it. I am anti-racist, and can still see the problems.

    Situation in Israel is just fucked with the illegal immigrants.

    I was there (not for my first time) last month, and have explored areas which feel like you are in Sudan, where whole parts of Tel Aviv are only living Sudanese Muslims.

    I don't know if you guys know about bagatz? It over-rules every attempt for them to deport illegal immigrants, and this has again happened last week after foreign funded NGO lawyers raise it with them.

    And you can see the kind of legal issues they have, with their ultra-liberal system:

    ‘Can illegal immigrant get legal status by committing rape?’

    Illegal immigrant living in Israel rapes Israeli woman, then demands legal status in Israel as father of child conceived in rape.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243226
     

    The problem is “flooding” period. Immigration of a few, who do not materially change the demographics, is one thing. Mass immigration is another, regardless of whether the immigrants are civilized or not.

    As Tucker Carlson recently said, “this is more change than human beings are designed to digest”. Here is a 90 second clip of Tucker spelling out what is the heart of the issue.

    Issue of things like the negative impact on personal safety and crime, is a result of quality (lack of filtration of immigrants).

    Filtration of immigrants also reduced numbers/flooding as well of course.

    Issue of whether to have immigrants at all ( even carefully selected ones) is another debate , as I mention in the post above. And relates to more questions like cultural continuity – which people might oppose even if all the immigrants arriving were Japanese aristocrats from Kyoto. As well as obvious ones like over-crowding, or competition for local workforce (which can occur even in professional workforces like Silicon Valley or top league football teams).

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  122. @bartok
    Never Forget ... that 51% of married Jewish men voted for Trump over Clinton.

    Voted for Trump:

    Jewish “men”: 51%
    White women: 52%

    Pretty weak.

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  123. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    A 50-foot aluminum extension ladder would weigh about 750 pounds.

    https://www.wernerco.com/us/view/D532-2

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    The shipping weight of the 32 ft ladder is 74 lbs.
    375 lbs is the load capacity.

    A 50 ft ladder would weigh ≈115 lbs.
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  124. @Anonymous

    third-world Arab-Jewish areas of the city
     
    If those Arab Jews were in America they would be middle class or successful businessmen. But in Israel they are slum dwellers. What gives?

    If those Arab Jews were in America they would be middle class or successful businessmen. But in Israel they are slum dwellers. What gives?

    Partly because the more middle class Arab Jews (from countries like Morocco), settled in (what was in the 1950s) more desirable countries like France and Canada. Whereas the most working class and gullible ones, ended up in Israel.

    It’s the same reason, other slums in Israel ended up full of adidas-obsessed gopnik type of people from Former Soviet Union countries. I.e. ‘Russian ghetto’ slums in Israel. Whereas people like Jan Koum and Sergey Brin managed to get to California.

    That’s not to say, all Arab Jews in Israel are working class (they have plenty of smarter people as well, but overall culture is very proletarian).

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  125. @Anon7
    “As I demonstrated in a study published last year, there were at least 56 attempts to employ the direct or indirect threat of mass migrations as a non-military instrument of influence between 1951 and 2006.

    “In about 73 percent of cases where it was attempted, would-be coercers got at least some of what they sought; in about 57 percent of cases, they achieved most, if not all, of their objectives. The majority of these coercive attempts were initiated by authoritarian dictators such as Cuba’s Fidel Castro, East Germany’s Erich Honecker, the former Yugoslavia’s Slobodan Milosevic and Uganda’s Idi Amin.

    “However, it is worth noting that the threat and actual manipulation of mass migrations has also been employed by democratic leaders like West Germany’s Konrad Adenauer and Dwight Eisenhower of the United States.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/opinion/21iht-edgreenhill21.html

    I wish that article would have gone into more detail to explain each particular case. Off hand the ones that mentioned Castro and Amin were probably threats to dump their own surplus population on foreign nations.

    I wonder if there are any examples of one’s own leaders threatening to dump foreigners on their own nation.

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    Tony Blair.
    , @J.Ross
    Threatening I don't know but it has been a thing where they go ahead and do it, where the foreigners are loyal to the leader, are mercenaries, or are highly specialized efficiency experts and revenue-generators with a high verbal IQ and lack of sympathy for the native population. At least that last one was a big part of European history.
    , @Anon7
    I pretty sure the Castro reference was to the Mariel episode in 1980 when President Castro sent 125,000 Cubans to the US. Many were later discovered to be violent criminals, identifiable by their prison tattoos between their thumbs and their forefingers.
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  126. @G Pinfold
    I don’t disagree with the ethos and the heart of your posting, but your analysis of poor old London is a bit simplistic.
    An Englishman feels more alienated in beautiful Holland Park, with its 3rd world nannies pushing prams filled with baby oil trash, than he does in the gentrifying East End, with its craft breweries filled with English and American hipsters working in Shoreditch startups. As for ‘South of the Thames’, try buying a flat in Putney or Battersea. Expensive, but at least these are still real places compared to the billionaire freak shows that are Mayfair and Knightsbridge.

    I don’t disagree with the ethos and the heart of your posting, but your analysis of poor old London is a bit simplistic.
    An Englishman feels more alienated in beautiful Holland Park, with its 3rd world nannies pushing prams filled with baby oil trash, than he does in the gentrifying East End, with its craft breweries filled with English and American hipsters working in Shoreditch startups. As for ‘South of the Thames’, try buying a flat in Putney or Battersea. Expensive, but at least these are still real places compared to the billionaire freak shows that are Mayfair and Knightsbridge.

    Well overall point. For me, London seems still very civilized (more than an American city), as long as you don’t enter the poor or dangerous areas.

    The multi-national atmosphere even in rich areas, does spoil a bit the cultural atmosphere – which for tourist, you want to still the old English culture. But the upper class from other countries, does not bring an uncivilized atmosphere. That is the produce of the working class immigrants, which fuck the poorer areas of the city.

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  127. @istevefan
    I wish that article would have gone into more detail to explain each particular case. Off hand the ones that mentioned Castro and Amin were probably threats to dump their own surplus population on foreign nations.

    I wonder if there are any examples of one's own leaders threatening to dump foreigners on their own nation.

    Tony Blair.

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  128. @International Jew
    Netanyahu's saying that potential unlimited migration from Africa is a more serious problem than the current threat of terrorism from Sinai.

    He's not saying, as some people here wish, that the Africans who are now in Israel are a greater danger than terrorism. If he believed that, he'd put them all on buses — maybe even on rubber dingies — by tomorrow morning, the Israel Supreme Court be damned.

    The current terrorist threat from across the Sinai border is low enough that it's patrolled by Israel's one mixed-gender infantry batallion.

    If he believed that, he’d put them all on buses…

    This conclusion doesn’t follow. Obviously you have ignored the cost side of the calculus.

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  129. @Mishra
    If you're including the 'never-born' Germans, it'll be a whole lot more than that. Many white people in the USA are refusing to bring new children into this world, where it's clear they'll be enslaved or more likely slaughtered before it's all over.

    By not having children, they make it harder for the rest of us, and more likely that our children will be so badly outnumbered that they cannot defend their lives, property, territory, and rights.

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  130. @peterike

    Key design feature of wall must be a rock hard surface at the base of the USA side to punish climbers who fall.

     

    Or spikes. Yeah, I like spikes.

    We ought to have guard towers at frequent intervals, manned by troops who are required to shoot to kill anyone crossing the border without our permission.

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  131. @Lot

    So who has the 51 foot ladder concession? Or maybe that doesn’t work as well as the media tries to tell us?
     
    Such a dumb talking point by people who know nothing about ladders. What percentage of the population is able and willing to scale a 30 foot wall with a ladder? 10% at most. I am not afraid of heights normally, but I found being even 20 feet into the air on an extension ladder to be unnerving. Doing so while breaking the law in an unfamiliar environment would be a lot worse than at home painting.

    Transporting extra large ladders to the border also sounds like something US cameras and drones and Mexican authorities would pick up.

    The cheapest 40ft ladder at HomeDepot.com is $473, two to four weeks pay and perhaps six months of savings for a typical Mexican migrant, and double that for a Guatemalan. And they do not even have any that large in stock normally, a special order is required. (16, 20, and 28 feet are the most common extension ladder sizes).

    Also, to scale a 50ft wall, you need more than 51 foot ladder.

    The train is OK, Lot.

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  132. @John Gruskos
    Is Netanyahu's race realism rare, or do elite diaspora Jews (Boas, Gould etc.) tell deliberate lies to demoralize the host nation and thus gain ethnic advantage?

    The function of the lies is as much to spread disinformation and deny useful knowledge as it is to demoralize.

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  133. @Mishra

    this is a watershed mment
     
    Actually it's nothing of the kind, because the MSM in the USA is ignoring the story.

    sigh…

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  134. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Yes, I read that Mitt Romney’s friends at Bain Capital played a sigmificant role in the demise of Toys R Us. Bain convinced them to take on the unsustainable debt load.
     
    Good. Kids don't need all that crap in those stores. Some wooden blocks, maybe a toy car, a doll or two for the girls. The bigger lego clones--forget what they are called--are good for toddler ages. Maybe snap trains at some toddler aged Christmas.

    Kids should be building stuff and using their imaginations. It doesn't take a whole lot. They certainly don't need piles and piles of random crap which is what those stores are full of.

    Of course, what they also need is parents to *not* expose them--i.e. park them in front of--television and just let their brains develop normally. I can pretty much tell good parenting from bad just by whether you walk in the house and the TV is babysitting the kids.

    Is that all, really? Would be a relief if it were the case.

    Would you mind providing us with a definitive/comprehensive list of the toys and building blocks that are needed? Please? Could really lessen the burden on a lot of parents and prospective parents.

    What do you have against television? It’s not like they are staring at a blank wall. TV is filled with clever people and verbal gymnastics.

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  135. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    “Were it not for the fence, we would be faced with… severe attacks by Sinai terrorists, and something much worse, a flood of illegal migrants from Africa,”
     
    If that is not an indictment on a certain demographic I don't know what is. Illegals from Africa are not just as bad as terrorists, they are not just worse than terrorists, but they are much worse than terrorists.

    Given that we readily use Israeli intel to formulate major policy decisions, such as the 2003 Iraq Attack, why doesn't Trump use this major piece of intel on a particular demographic to immediately shut down all visas from this area? I'd love to see Schumer and company complain in public about terminating visas from these areas. Trump could reply, "Bibi says they are much worse than terrorists." How is Schumer going to reply to that?

    Nah, this doesn’t work. I and others have tried this approach for over 20 years.

    It’s the Tamar Jacoby, Madeline Albright, Chuck Schumer or just really all Neo Conservative Jews.

    These Jews have split minds, one for Israel, one for the USA, Europe, UK – the (White) West.

    These Jews see no contradiction in Israel building effective border walls and deporting all Black African migrants, undocumented and….

    Insisting that the United States, Europe, Scandinavia, UK, Australia – the West must not, will not be allowed to do anything even remotely like the Israeli border security, Israel as a jewish ethno state.

    Expect to get smeared as a beyond the pale evil NAZI for just opposing mass Islamic extremist immigration, mass Muslim male migration invasions.

    The Hungarians understand this and that is why they make George Soros as the #1 evil mastermind plotting to over run Hungary and Europe with Millions of Muslims, Black Africans etc.

    It’s sad but true, the Jewish political, media and academic elite in and outside of Israel favors the Muslims, 3rd world invasion, conquest of Europe, USA, the White West. It’s revenge for World War II or just the reality that Jews never feel safe in a stable, homogenous White country.

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  136. @Anon
    Anyone have a link to that recent tweet where an Israeli minister was quoted saying that maintaining a jewish majority trumps all, even human rights?
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  137. So Netanyahu has been studying Detroit?

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  138. @Brutusale
    A 50-foot aluminum extension ladder would weigh about 750 pounds.

    https://www.wernerco.com/us/view/D532-2

    The shipping weight of the 32 ft ladder is 74 lbs.
    375 lbs is the load capacity.

    A 50 ft ladder would weigh ≈115 lbs.

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    Oops! Thanks for the correction.
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  139. @Mishra
    Trump should also copy their idea of a (modern, electrified) 'smart fence' instead of a (medieval, barrier) dumb wall. But Trump isn't that smart.

    Trump may not end up President For Life. A Democrat president would easily find the off switch for your amazing electric fence.

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    Yes, and can you imagine the "Tear Down This Wall" photo ops coming?

    My way is cheaper, though we're really just arranging deck chairs.
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  140. @merema
    Stop exaggerating, I don't see a war zone. I see a whole bunch of poor people, Africans (mostly Eritreans) and and non-African selling stuff and milling around relaxed.

    Almost 99 percent seem to be military aged males. DO they have any women or do they mate with the Israeli females?

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    That is an old video though (2012).

    I was there last month - nowadays there are quite a lot of women and children (mainly wearing hijabs - a lot of them are from Sudan). Sudan is at war with Israel, so Israel can't deport Sudanese once they arrive - but it is strange how many Sudanese women managed to arrive in recent year (by plane?).

    By contrast, Israel deports straight away Ukrainian and Georgian illegal immigrants, as the countries have diplomatic relations.

    Whole thing there is an interesting case study.

    The flooding of particular blocks with illegal immigration, feels probably more extreme than anywhere else I visited (perhaps because so many concentrated in a small area). In North of the town,* where left-wing demographics live, - you don't see any illegal immigrants.

    Tel Aviv is quite small (only around 400,000 people), so population is 1/30th size of Moscow. So I guess reason it feels extreme, is that relative impact is like if Moscow was flooded with some 900,000 African illegal immigrants. Also not dispersed, but all in the same blocks.

    -

    Here is already a only little further North in the city - like 15 minutes walk away - (around Dizengoff center) - and already there are few illegal immigrants walking around.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK5_roqwT-A

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  141. @John Gruskos
    Is Netanyahu's race realism rare, or do elite diaspora Jews (Boas, Gould etc.) tell deliberate lies to demoralize the host nation and thus gain ethnic advantage?

    102 John Gruskos > or do elite diaspora Jews

    who are those? the ones that Garibaldi and iSteve prefer to quote?

    if you even BELIEVE that there exists an “elite”….. then you have already surrendered to their Hollywood propaganda

    and people wonder why a lightweight like Aviva Chomsky is able to operate. It’s because: in the planet of the blind whites like Gruskos, the Jewess with half a functioning eyeball looks like a goddess.

    you want to see an elite Jew? Get the to an IDF Officer’s Training campfire

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  142. @John Gruskos
    Is Netanyahu's race realism rare, or do elite diaspora Jews (Boas, Gould etc.) tell deliberate lies to demoralize the host nation and thus gain ethnic advantage?

    102 John Gruskos > or do elite diaspora Jews

    who are those? the ones that Garibaldi and iSteve prefer to quote?

    if you even BELIEVE that there exists an “elite”….. then you have already surrendered to their Hollywood propaganda

    and people wonder why a lightweight like Aviva Chomsky is able to operate. It’s because: in the planet of the blind whites like Gruskos, the Jewess with half a functioning eyeball looks like a goddess.

    you want to see an elite Jew? Get thee to an IDF Officer’s Training campfire

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  143. @Dov
    Fair question. I know a large amount of young American Jews, and the majority of them believe in racial egalitarianism hook, line, and sinker. I've brought up Black Panther, for instance, with them, and been told how important it was for Blacks' morale to have this kind of movie produced - and this occurred in all-Jewish settings (e.g., Sabbath dinners). And I have several friends with whom I express my racial views in the most unbridled manner, but they remain unconvinced.

    I've been a reader of AmRen for about six years, and gone back and forth on more "hardcore" realist sites, so lots of my acquaintances know where I stand on race and Jews as a sociopolitical force. But it would be just as great a social "faux pas" if I were to frankly discuss race among Jews as it would be if I were to do so among, say, non-Jewish Whites.

    119 Dov > But it would be just as great a social “faux pas” if I were to frankly discuss race among Jews as it would be if I were to do so among, say, non-Jewish Whites.

    it’s not our fault that you have chosen the wrong social circles

    for you, I recommend aliyah to a heavily Ethiopian neighborhood in the likes of Dimona; there’s always work for a native-English speaker who is willing to work for a public-school-teacher’s salary.

    The ethiopians are mostly right wing, and….

    …. you’d get better pussy than you’re getting now, shipmate.

    to my gentile friends here: stop being so whiny. You too can get permanent residence here. Judging by the ACTUAL STATISTICS, you only need the determination of an average Filipina.

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    Your contemptuous attacks on gentiles here are winning your side a lot of friends, I'm sure. (lol)
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  144. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    Not looked at the story, but I think it can be "rape" in Israel if you deceive the girl as to your Jewish status. IIRC a pale Palestinian got convicted on those grounds a few years ago.

    Not really. What actually happened in that case is that the victim girl was mentally retarded and could not give legal consent and so was legally real rape raped, but rather than making her and her family go through a trial the prosecutor and defense just decided to have the perp plead down to the archaic rape by deception. However as with everything else that happens in Israel it took on mythical proportions as the story spread, and became supposedly about the perp lying about being Jewish.

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  145. @prusmc
    Almost 99 percent seem to be military aged males. DO they have any women or do they mate with the Israeli females?

    That is an old video though (2012).

    I was there last month – nowadays there are quite a lot of women and children (mainly wearing hijabs – a lot of them are from Sudan). Sudan is at war with Israel, so Israel can’t deport Sudanese once they arrive – but it is strange how many Sudanese women managed to arrive in recent year (by plane?).

    By contrast, Israel deports straight away Ukrainian and Georgian illegal immigrants, as the countries have diplomatic relations.

    Whole thing there is an interesting case study.

    The flooding of particular blocks with illegal immigration, feels probably more extreme than anywhere else I visited (perhaps because so many concentrated in a small area). In North of the town,* where left-wing demographics live, – you don’t see any illegal immigrants.

    Tel Aviv is quite small (only around 400,000 people), so population is 1/30th size of Moscow. So I guess reason it feels extreme, is that relative impact is like if Moscow was flooded with some 900,000 African illegal immigrants. Also not dispersed, but all in the same blocks.

    -

    Here is already a only little further North in the city – like 15 minutes walk away – (around Dizengoff center) – and already there are few illegal immigrants walking around.

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  146. @istevefan
    I wish that article would have gone into more detail to explain each particular case. Off hand the ones that mentioned Castro and Amin were probably threats to dump their own surplus population on foreign nations.

    I wonder if there are any examples of one's own leaders threatening to dump foreigners on their own nation.

    Threatening I don’t know but it has been a thing where they go ahead and do it, where the foreigners are loyal to the leader, are mercenaries, or are highly specialized efficiency experts and revenue-generators with a high verbal IQ and lack of sympathy for the native population. At least that last one was a big part of European history.

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  147. @George
    Wow, he's not calling them infultrators anymore. You Know what they say, African migrants, can't live with'em can't shoot'em.

    You Know what they say, African migrants, can’t live with’em can’t shoot’em.

    Fifteen refugees killed in Sinai as they reportedly attempt to enter Israel to seek asylum

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  148. @Irish John
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?439685-4/washington-journal-max-boot-discusses-trump-administration-foreign-policy-challenges

    @thirdworldstevereader
    I did ask Max Boot on C-Span 1/15/18 starting at the 11th minute about the expulsion of the African war refugees from Israel. He didn't directly respond but said said he didn't understand why I was ranting and raving. But I wasn't. He also said that Israel treats Christians and Muslims with respect which, of course, is questionable. I also said his advice to the US govt about the Iraq war was a catastrophe and to his credit he admitted it was.

    Max Boot

    I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE CALLER IS RANTING AND RAVING ABOUT AND WHAT ISRAEL’S POLICY HAVE TO DO WITH DONALD TRUMP. ISRAEL, BY THE WAY, WELCOMES PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. GIVE CITIZENSHIP TO ANY JEW WHO WANTS TO IMMIGRATE AND TREATS CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. AGAIN, I DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH DONALD TRUMP OR MY FOREIGN POLICY RECORD.

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  149. @Karl
    119 Dov > But it would be just as great a social “faux pas” if I were to frankly discuss race among Jews as it would be if I were to do so among, say, non-Jewish Whites.


    it's not our fault that you have chosen the wrong social circles

    for you, I recommend aliyah to a heavily Ethiopian neighborhood in the likes of Dimona; there's always work for a native-English speaker who is willing to work for a public-school-teacher's salary.

    The ethiopians are mostly right wing, and....

    .... you'd get better pussy than you're getting now, shipmate.

    to my gentile friends here: stop being so whiny. You too can get permanent residence here. Judging by the ACTUAL STATISTICS, you only need the determination of an average Filipina.

    Your contemptuous attacks on gentiles here are winning your side a lot of friends, I’m sure. (lol)

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  150. @wrd9
    Wouldn't need a drill if the bottom of the wall is see thru with bars. Just throw a rope or a two ropes configured with steps over the top and fish it through with a hook to anchor the bottom.

    Why would the bottom of the wall be transparent or have open spaces covered only by bars?

    Also, let’s reject the apparent assumption that our border force would stand by while a weakness in the wall is exploited. We should simply have guard towers, at frequent intervals, with National Guard troops that machine-gun aliens trying to cross the border against our will.

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  151. @istevefan
    I wish that article would have gone into more detail to explain each particular case. Off hand the ones that mentioned Castro and Amin were probably threats to dump their own surplus population on foreign nations.

    I wonder if there are any examples of one's own leaders threatening to dump foreigners on their own nation.

    I pretty sure the Castro reference was to the Mariel episode in 1980 when President Castro sent 125,000 Cubans to the US. Many were later discovered to be violent criminals, identifiable by their prison tattoos between their thumbs and their forefingers.

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  152. @Anonym
    I was going to post this in the previous thread about the American Experiment.

    What about the Israeli experiment? Seems the results mirror the usual European majority country.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Population_of_Israel.png

    And some Jasmine Scented news.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-why-interfaith-marriage-is-on-the-rise-1.5250507

    Bibi is right btw.

    We Jews need to accept just desserts for our unearned Jewish privilege. We must accept that we’ll become a minority in Israel. We should welcome it, not fear it. A far more diverse and multicultural Israel will be a better, stronger Israel.

    Diversity is strength, Fellow Jewish People.

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  153. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Trump may not end up President For Life. A Democrat president would easily find the off switch for your amazing electric fence.

    Yes, and can you imagine the “Tear Down This Wall” photo ops coming?

    My way is cheaper, though we’re really just arranging deck chairs.

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  154. @a reader
    The shipping weight of the 32 ft ladder is 74 lbs.
    375 lbs is the load capacity.

    A 50 ft ladder would weigh ≈115 lbs.

    Oops! Thanks for the correction.

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  155. @a reader

    Thank you.

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  156. @Anon
    If he believed that, he’d put them all on buses...

    This conclusion doesn't follow. Obviously you have ignored the cost side of the calculus.

    What cost?

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  157. @anon
    "Hey man, not all Jews are SJW's. I know this Israeli chick and she's based." - Could that be because her co-ethnics who own the media in your country have mind-f**ked you, while sparing their own in their own country?

    Could the explanation for a culture of race realism in Israel and race-denialism in the diaspora be because Jews control the media and culture in both? And, what's good for the Jews in the diaspora is the opposite of what's good for them in Isreal? Could it also be that this hypocrisy wasn't necessarily a conscious decision "hehe let's be hypocritical",** but just Jews responding to incentives, and then creating cultural environments in both that serve their interests in both, via the media?

    Could it be that the whole "grand Jewish conspiracy" explanation represents a disconnect between the "conscious decision to be hypocritical" hypothesis and the reality: responding to the environment and creating the justification for what's best for your people on an ad hoc basis?

    Also, a large part of the reason that Sweden is so liberal is because 6/8 of its largest newspapers*** (and a ton of other media) are owned by families of significantly Jewish heritage. (Bonnier and Hjorne****)

    ** Isn't this the manifestation of most real world hypocrisy?

    *** See the names of the companies that own the largest "morning" and "evening" newspapers.

    **** Bonnier owns 5/8 of the largest newspapers. Hjorne's owns 1/8 of the largest, and over 20 more. Peter Hjorne's maternal grandmother was Jewish. Aina Kaplan. He paid to have all of the school children in Goteborg go see Schindler's list when it came out, so it's reasonable to presume that his heritage means something to him.

    Israelis are more realistic, than US Jews, because they’ve had to survive in a more dangerous neighborhood. Same reason whites in Mississippi are more realistic about blacks, than are whites in Vermont.

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