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From The American Conservative:

Hate Hoax

Fake a race crime, get a pep rally.

By Steve Sailer

May 10, 2004, pp. 14-15

http://www.unz.com/print/AmConservative-2004may10-00014

I AM PERHAPS the world’s most easily amused person. As an old marketing researcher who enjoys looking for patterns in daily life, I’m almost never bored. Yet, while wandering the flowery campuses of Southern California’s Claremont Colleges, I found the soft spring afternoon so placid that I was ready to curl up under a tree for a snooze. The most exciting moment during my exploration came when a Frisbee-golf foursome politely waited for me to walk by before playing through.

Perhaps all this genteel serenity explains the psychodramas that a sizable fraction of the staff and students seem compelled to concoct for themselves. Just the month before, a long-festering mass hysteria over white racist student-thugs supposedly infesting the campus had culminated in a huge night rally in which thousands of blackshirted students had chanted their hatred of “hate,” while the administration stood by silently, despite knowing that there had been no hate crime, just a leftist professor’s hoax.

In 1887, New Englanders founded Pomona College, now ranked fourth among liberal-arts colleges in the country by U.S. News. With the population of the San Gabriel Valley’s posh orange grove belt booming in the 1920s, the trustees chose a clever way to expand. To preserve small-college intimacy while exploiting the economies of scale of the mid-sized university, they created a collegiate consortium modeled on Oxford and Cambridge. Eventually, four more undergraduate colleges of about a thousand students each sprang up on adjacent campuses sharing a single massive library.

Claremont fostered institutional diversity while other universities were homogenizing themselves in their attempts to be all things to all people. Claremont’s Harvey Mudd is sometimes derided as an imitation Caltech, but then Caltech is well worth emulating. In contrast, Pitzer, the least prestigious school, is a Sixties relic stressing social activism.

Opened in 1946, Claremont Men’s College taught economics and government from a conservative perspective, rare during that era of liberal dominance of intellectual life. Political philosopher Harry V. Jaffa, still energetic today in his mid-80s, made CMC a hub for his idealistic, Lincoln-lionizing interpretation of his mentor Leo Strauss’s theories.

In 1976, Claremont Men’s College went co-ed—although its neighbor Scripps remains all-female—changing its name in 1982 to Claremont McKenna College to keep its CMC initials. It is quite exclusive today, with an average SAT score around 1380.

In 1999, Pamela Gann became CMC’s first president who was a registered Democrat. She didn’t seem happy heading a college with a moderately conservative reputation and tried to use “diversity” to make CMC less diverse and more like every other college. Gann and the conservative professors fought bitter battles over affirmative-action hiring.

Gann’s frustration with her rightist holdovers seemed to feed into the growing paranoia at some of the other Claremont colleges, where the staffs nurture an obsession among their “diverse” students (i.e., everybody except non-Hispanic heterosexual gentile white males) to navel-gaze over whether or not they feel “comfortable with the climate.”

It was 72 degrees with a gentle breeze blowing, so the climate seemed okay to me, but a flier on Pitzer bulletin boards made the local idée fixe a little clearer: “Diversity and Campus Climate: You are invited to participate in a discussion about campus climate.”

Another advertised: “Queer Dreams and Nightmares: What is it like to be a student at the Claremont Colleges? Student panel discussion addressing the current climate at the 5-Cs, both academically and socially.” This was part of a conference entitled, with that profusion of punctuation that is the secret fraternity handshake of post-modern academics, “[Re]Defining a Queer Space at the Claremont Colleges.”

The university’s main concern appears to be to make students feel “comfortable,” a word that reappears constantly in Claremont publications despite the obvious hopelessness of the project. The only way to make 19-year-olds feel comfortable is to wait 30 years while they sag into their well-padded maturities. Right now, they are teenagers, and their surging hormones have far more important emotions for them to feel than comfort. Adults, however, who make careers out of encouraging kids to mold permanently self-pitying identities around their transient social discomforts, have much to answer for.

A series of semi-nonexistent “racial incidents,” such as liberal Scripps students advertising a racial sensitivity seminar with posters featuring the N-word, were parlayed by activists into a mood of dread. Kerri F. Dunn, a 39-year old academic prole, a visiting professor of social psychology at CMC whose contract was up in June, repeatedly harangued her students about the racists and sexists lurking in the shadows. On March 9, she gave a fiery speech at a campus event on “Hate Speech Versus Free Speech.” She then walked to her 1992 Honda Civic and returned some time later, claiming she had found it spray-painted with anti-black, anti-female, and anti-Semitic slurs. The Irish-American Dunn pointed the finger at her own students, arguing that only they had heard she was considering converting to Judaism: “How else would they believe I was Jewish unless they were in my class?”

Dunn’s allegation triggered a frenzy of fear and loathing.

Although faked hate crimes have become routine in the years since the Tawana Brawley hoax, the college presidents immediately canceled the next day’s classes (costing parents paying the full $37,000 per year list price for 150 days of education about $250 each, or close to $2 million in total at list price). At the mass rally the next night, Dunn announced to rapturous applause: “This was a well planned out act of terrorism. And I don’t believe for one second it was one person. I think that there’s a group here, a small group, but I do believe that there is a group here that perpetuates this in all different kinds of ways.”

Dunn’s image of a secret goon squad of marauding junior Straussians was as memorable as it was preposterous, but the administration had already been apprised of the unsurprising truth. Earlier that day, two eyewitnesses had told the Dean of Students that Professor Dunn had slashed her own tires. The FBI and local police quickly found inconsistencies in Dunn’s story. A week later, they announced publicly that Dunn had done it. (They also found that during her mid-30s, Dunn had been arrested three times, twice for shoplifting, once for driving with a fake license.)

University officials suspended Dunn, but with pay, and continued to rent her a replacement car. A suddenly indecisive Gann ruminated, “One has to learn to perhaps live with ambiguity here, and never know the answer and reach a closure because the likelihood of actual prosecution … is very small.” …

Actually, from the Los Angeles Times later that year:

Teacher Gets Prison in Hate Crime Hoax
December 16, 2004 | Wendy Thermos | Times Staff Writer

A former psychology professor at Claremont McKenna College was sentenced Wednesday to a year in state prison for spray-painting her car with racist and anti-Semitic slurs and claiming that unknown vandals had done it.

 
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  1. Does Claremont McKenna still have a conservative orientation?

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Screwtape
    , @Anonymous
  2. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    As an old marketing researcher who enjoys looking for patterns in daily life, I’m almost never bored

    What is the relevance of pattern-noticing to marketing?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  3. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    If American Indians had more Wokemon points than blacks, would blankets than nooses be the symbol of evil?

    https://www.history.com/news/colonists-native-americans-smallpox-blankets

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Reg Cæsar
  4. @Anon

    Wokemon Points is pretty good. I may steal that.

  5. Clyde says:

    Hate hoax sounds better than “hate crime hoax”. It is more direct.

    • Replies: @Hail
  6. @Anonymous

    What is the relevance of pattern-noticing to marketing?

    I sure hope you don’t have a driver’s license.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @reactionry
  7. Dtbb says:

    Maybe that black professor should have stayed at Purdue?

  8. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What does marketing have to do with a driver’s license?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Reg Cæsar
  9. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    O/T

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  10. Hail says: • Website

    In 1887, New Englanders founded Pomona College, now [i.e., in 2004] ranked fourth among liberal-arts colleges in the country by U.S. News

    Postscript, fifteen years later:

    Serving the system pays off, at least as long as the milk and honey (and oil) keep flowing — In 2019, Pomona and Claremont McKenna remain comfortably in the coveted top 10 in U.S. News’ “Liberal Arts Colleges” category, along with five New England colleges.

    Claremont McKenna College
    500 E. 9th Street, Claremont, CA

    #9 in National Liberal Arts Colleges

    2019 Quick Stats
    Tuition & Fees: $54,405 (2018-19)
    Room and Board: $16,705 (2018-19)
    Total Enrollment: 1,345

    The Top 10 in Liberals Arts Colleges in 2019 (of 233 evaluated):

    [MORE]

    1. Williams College / Williamstown, MA
    2. Amherst College / Amherst, MA
    3. (tied) Swarthmore College / Swarthmore, PA
    3. (tied) Wellesley College / Wellesley, MA
    5. (tied) Bowdoin College / Brunswick, ME
    5. (tied) Carleton College / Northfield, MN
    5. (tied) Middlebury College / Middlebury, VT
    5. (tied) Pomona College / Claremont, CA
    9. Claremont McKenna College / Claremont, CA
    10. Davidson College / Davidson, NC

    As for the small city of Claremont itself (pop: 36,000), Census 2010 pegs it at 59% White non-Hispanic, 13% Asian, 20% Hispanic, <5% Black. (Census 1990 had it at 76.5% White non-Hispanic; see pdf, p.50.)

  11. @Reg Cæsar

    As In Clare[mont] Quilty?

    To market an AIDS quilt, one should notice the patterns as well as the likely need for a Diverse License.

    Also go global with Planet Cla[i]re:

    (Could B-52s bomb that campus back to the “free speech” stoner age?)

  12. Hail says: • Website

    Kerri F. Dunn, a 39-year old academic prole, a visiting professor of social psychology at CMC whose contract was up in June, repeatedly harangued her students about the racists and sexists lurking in the shadows. On March 9, she gave a fiery speech at a campus event on “Hate Speech Versus Free Speech.” She then walked to her 1992 Honda Civic and returned some time later, claiming she had found it spray-painted with anti-black, anti-female, and anti-Semitic slurs.

    Postscript on Kerri Dunn (from here):

    It appears the Claremont McKenna hate-hoaxer of 2004, Kerri Dunn (born ca.1964) (Visiting Professor of Psychology, 2002-2004; see LinkedIn), was sentenced in Dec. 2004 to one year in prison and a $20,000 fine (around $27,000 in 2019 dollars).


    Where is Kerri Dunn as of the late 2010s, in her mid-fifties?

    Professor in the Psychology department
    at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, New York, NY

    She was allowed back in academia in 2012 and cruises along therein as of this writing.

    There was once a wiki entry on Kerri Dunn, but it was scrubbed in 2010.

    Her LinkedIn lists “Nutley High School,” in Essex Co., New Jersey (Greater NYC) (Jewish population: 10%; White-Gentile population: <33%. Trump-Hillary vote split: 20-77). After her release from prison sometime about late 2005, she returned home to NJ. After a stint working at something called Corporate Staffing, Ltd., she was back professoring by Sept. 2012 (to present).

    Here was Dunn in 2004, the year she turned 40. Her LinkedIn pic shows she has relatively gracefully aged, though the picture is awfully informal for LinkedIn (she has on oversized sunglasses and is at the beach). She was reported elsewhere at the time to be a lesbian. Is she still a lesbian? Is she still a covert-to-Judaism?

    “How else would they believe I was Jewish unless they were in my class?”

  13. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    • Replies: @donut
  14. Clyde says:

    OT from UK Daily Mail today>>> Mo’ wisdom from The Hussein >>>>

    ‘If you are very confident about your sexuality you don’t have to have eight women around you twerking’: Barack Obama slams hip-hop and rap music stars for promoting toxic masculinity by surrounding themselves with video vixens

    Barack Obama blasted hip-hop and rap music for promoting toxic masculinity
    He spoke on stage with Golden State Warriors star Steph Curry at the My Brother’s Keeper Alliance summit on Tuesday
    ‘Let’s face it a lot of hip hop and rap music is built around me showing how I got more money than you, I can disrespect you,’ he said
    He added that wearing gold chains and excessive twerking can sometimes point to vulnerability rather than confidence
    Obama created the initiative My Brother’s Keeper as a youth support and violence prevention group during his time in office
    Obama, the Currys, and Chrissy Teigen and John Legend dined together the night before in San Francisco

    https://tinyurl.com/y55jzv6d

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    , @donut
  15. Clyde says:
    @Hail

    I’ll bet she never paid the fine and never spent time in jail or prison. Or at the most one month. So glad she landed on her feet at John Jay in NYC …musta been sisters helping sisters. So to speak.

  16. Anon[643] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    A peek into the mind of the paranoid left:

    It Sure Looks Like Trolls Are Weaponizing Call-Out Culture to Weaken Democrats

    https://slate.com/technology/2019/02/trolls-internet-democrats-racist-trump-harris-warren-bernie-sanders-trump.html

    With 12 Democratic candidates already vying for the White House and more to come, memes and misinformation that appear to be coordinated and possibly connected to foreign propaganda efforts are already afflicting the race. According to a report Wednesday in Politico, Democratic contenders have been the targets of online propaganda aimed at sensationalizing missteps and promoting falsehoods.

    They seem intent on weaponizing a productive moment in our politics in which public figures are finally being held to account for their past actions, and Democrats are sometimes asking other Democrats to resign. The trolls want Democrats to eat each other.

    So far, we don’t know the source of this activity—it’s not clearly linked to the Internet Research Agency, the Russian disinformation factory that was behind thousands of accounts stirring unrest during the 2016 and 2018 elections. Wherever it’s from, what has been found so far does appear to be coordinated and bears many of the traits of past foreign operations.

    These troll efforts aren’t only trying to smear candidates using issues of concern to the left—sometimes they’re just sexist and racist.

    Days after Harris announced her candidacy, former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown wrote a terse op-ed for the San Francisco Chronicle admitting that he dated Harris, apparently because reporters had been calling him about it. That was on Jan 26, but even now, weeks later, chatter about their decades-old relationship is still proliferating on social media.

    On Facebook, videos made about their relationship have racked up hundreds of thousands of views, and on Twitter, replies to Harris’ tweets are saturated with lewd comments accusing Harris of using sex as a ladder to success.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  17. Anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:

    Have you considered the psychological implications of the black fixation with nooses-which were not particularly linked to slavery- as opposed to whips, chains, manacles or the like?

    Lynchings were a cooperative effort among a group of white men defending their own interests and interpretations of justice. The cooperation of the vigilantes is what separates it as a unique way to kill. It is the united interaction of self-preserving white people that they fear more than a gun, a whip, a fist, or an electric chair.

  18. BenKenobi says:

    After we switched from Jeopardy! to Tucker (on yout**e, not actual TV) last night I remarked to my gf: “Sailer should be a regular speaker and even guest host on Tuckah, just like Mark Steyn.”

    I bet a good agent could help you overcome your anti-viralness, Herr KaLeu.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  19. Hail says: • Website
    @Clyde

    Right-leaning MSMers have been using Hate Crime Hoax, so the linguistic beachhead has been established. A smooth transition to “Hate Hoax” is theoretically easy. Even if that doesn’t occur, the concept now has a name (Hate Crime Hoax). Steve Sailer wins.

    __________________

    By the way, I think Dr. Wilfred Reilly “outed” himself as an iSteve reader today. He was using multiple Sailerisms and references to Sailer material. He was also being highly reasonable, slamming hate-hoaxes and calling for an end to hate crime laws.

    He has a book out (formal publication date long set at Feb. 28, 2019, but manuscript seemingly complete by Sept. 2018; the core of the book, then, long predates the recent “Jussie and the Nigerians” caper). His book is titled “Hate Crime Hoax,” such title itself perhaps derivative of Sailer. Reilly has a database of 400 hate crime incidents, of which more than half were proven hoaxes, others unsolved.

    (He references other such databases with similar findings, totaling thousands of cases with near half of them hoaxes. Comparatively few get national coverage, of course.)

    Anyway, given the lucky timing of his book, Wilfred Reilly was interviewed Wednesday by Laura Ingraham (see 8:55 to 35:00). A longtime Steve Sailer reader will probably recognize one of his own, listening to Reilly’s extended commentary.

    Here is Wilfried Reilly debating Jared Taylor, April 2016:

    • Replies: @Clyde
    , @Anonymous
  20. @Hail

    I keep hearing that academia is so overstaffed no one can get employment but superstars, yet here they skip over all those other unemployed advanced degree graduates to hire a convict. Why, it’s some kind of miracle … unless you’re the guy skipped over in favor of the lesbian convict who got extra Wokemon points for being both a hatecrime perp and hatecrime victim.

    • Agree: Trevor H.
  21. Clyde says:
    @Hail

    Dr Wilfred was on Tuck Carlson the other day. He was very good and coherent. Tuck Carlson Tonight is on you tube for viewing a few yours later. Just use the filter for “posted today” and you will find him. I condense from youtube to MP3 and listen at my convenience.

  22. Paul says:

    “Political philosopher Harry V. Jaffa, still energetic today in his mid-80s, made CMC a hub for his idealistic, Lincoln-lionizing interpretation of his mentor Leo Strauss’s theories.”

    I believe Harvey Mudd was actually a relative of Dr. Samuel Mudd (a slave owner), who treated John Wilkes Booth’s broken leg after Lincoln’s assassination. Dr. Mudd was imprisoned. Newscaster Roger Mudd is also from that family.

    My mom once dated a member of the family when she was a student at Occidental College. I think his name was Clarence Mudd. My cousin got his Ph.D. in psychology from one of the colleges. (I forget which one.) I used to play tennis at the colleges with a friend although neither of us was a student there. At the time of the dustup over the graffiti incident, I wondered if the otherwise quiet environment led bored students to look for something about which to get excited.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  23. TheBoom says:

    Steve has done a great job identifying and chronicling the rise of the hate hoax as a staple of modern “journalism.” However, the fact it has taken someone as insightful as Steve to notice these transparently ridiculous events is a sad testament to both the moral corruption and intellectual bankruptcy of the media and the stupidity of the left for believing them.

    Steve’s analysis has been better put to the test in things like the Sailer strategy, Coalition of the Fringes, HBD, and Flight from White. These hate hoaxes and use of them to vilify white men should have been easily spotted by whites with at least a mid two digit IQ; journalists who push them should be fired and sued. However, hate hoaxes are too useful to the tribe and too emotionally satisfying to good whites to let a good hoax opportunity go to waste.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  24. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Rare, always good, frisbee golf content on iSteve.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  25. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    A smooth transition to “Hate Hoax” is theoretically easy. Even if that doesn’t occur, the concept now has a name (Hate Crime Hoax).

    Which is better?

    I think “hate hoaxes” is, even if less comprehensible. “Hate crime hoaxes” implicitly gives credibilty to the concept of hate crimes.

    • Replies: @Hail
  26. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    She’s an adjunct at John Jay. That’s equivalent to working at Taco Bell in terms of pay and job security. Even at Claremont McKenna she had “visiting” status, which is equivalent to working at Starbucks.

    She has never been a tenure or non-tenure track assistant/associate/full professor anywhere as far as I can tell.

    Adjuncts typically get three or low four figures to teach a class on an at-will basis. They often have no office so their stuff is kept in their car trunk. They do office hours while sitting on the car hood or while eating at McDonald’s.

    Adjuncts are trying to unionize all over the country. There is a huge class division between real professors and adjuncts. Universities may implode if that movement gets traction, but who cares, good riddance. It’s like digital journalists unionizing: They celebrate, and then either their employer goes belly up (Gawker) or there are mass layoffs (Buzzfeed, Vice, HuffPost, AOL).

    Executive summary: Learn to code.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  27. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Steve,

    Did you tweet this before I posted it? Sorry if I missed it.

  28. OT, via lionoftheblogosphere
    More racist “grinning”, with a bonus of racist “white shoes”, from the NY Times

    Elite Law Firm’s All-White Partner Class Stirs Debate on Diversity [nytimes]

    The post appeared on LinkedIn in early December: Paul, Weiss, one of the country’s most prominent and profitable law firms, said it was “pleased to announce” its new partner class.

    In the image, 12 lawyers looked out at the world, ***grinning***.

    What followed, however, was nothing to smile about. In short order, people across the industry began to comment that all of the faces were white, and only one was a woman’s.

    Above the Law, a widely read industry website, archly mocked the firm’s “commitment to putting the white in ***white shoe***.”

    Some ideas for future articles in the same vein:
    professors putting the white in whiteboard
    painters putting the white in whitewash
    ski instructors putting the white in whiteout
    phone company putting the white in whitepages
    dermatologists putting the white in whiteheads

  29. Anon[759] • Disclaimer says:

    If I’m reading that 2004 piece correctly, Steve tooled on over to Claremont and wandered around, but failed to complete a single interview on the topic of the article he was writing.

    The atmosphere was nice, frisbees and all. I suppose that added to the piece.

  30. Hate Crime Hoax should be a crime itself

    2019 Amapiano Songs

  31. @Dave Pinsen

    Disc golf is the technically correct nomenclature.

  32. Trevor H. says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Yep. It’s a very descriptive term, as well as a pun.

    FWIW, I prefer “hate-crime hoax” to “hate hoax”. I guess I’m the only one who hyphenates it.

  33. @Anonymous

    “What does marketing have to do with a driver’s license?”

    I dunno, but the open borders crowd thinks it makes illegal aliens better drivers and that the ability to use it to register to vote is a small price to pay.

    Oops, it might be a hate crime to even make that obserrvation. Don’t tase me, bro !

  34. I have refrained from commenting on this issue, because since 9/11 the number of stories regarding anything related to acts of one person (s) against another person(s) have tended to start out one way and gone another. But as this expanding from seeming false claim to several I think it might be fair to chime in because the perspective has widened. And on that turn, I think I can say with complete confidence that we have a 200 years plus more before blacks scratch the surface of false claim accusations by whites against blacks.

    And while I have no intention of defending anyone’s false claims, Laugh — I think it’s fair to say not only have blacks been subject to false claims/accusations historically, but as a population have paid the price by several magnitudes (an understatement) when whites, manufacture the same. And its clear that the matter remains in play.

    Take the last series of complaints by Mr. Sailor and those of Mr. Kersey, here are two men of sound mind, education status and influence whose goal to ride herd on blacks by coloring them as manufacturers of false claims as a people by relying on several small sample sizes.

    Even under the current information control coding:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/black-men–not-white-guys–face-false-alleg&#8230;

    https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf
    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Lawsuit-Against-Prince-Georges-Police-Includes-Allegations-of-Egregious-Misconduct-by-White-Officers-502740801.html

    https://m.metrotimes.com/table-and-bar/archives/2018/10/18/detroit-judge-tosses-gardening-while-black-case-brought-by-three-white-women

    If one wants to launch a basis for ginning up votes and garnering white support, I guess this might be one way to go. However, an astute (and that’s not me) observer of the tactic would cringe if that was expanded over time and to include a broader compilation, because the numb er of false claims by whites and the consequence to the black population as a whole —

    well, there’s just no contest. Though I suspect that astute people, already know that. One doesn’t have to be a liberal to know that broad comparisons are probably a dead end on this matter. Though its good for temporary traction.

    Sure, I don’t think there is any question that some black people make up tales. But if one is going to compare who makes up more tales about a certain population by another population, that’s unfair loaded contest in which the begged the question is supported by more than 100 years data.

    But I get it. Feel a little comeuppance vengeance. I get it.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
  35. @Paul

    Thanks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Seeley_Mudd

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Mudd

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Mudd

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/business/worldbusiness/04iht-05fannie.16689176.html

    Thanks.

    Samuel Mudd, who set John Wilkes Booth’s broken leg is related to CBS’s Roger Mudd and Fannie Mae’s Daniel Mudd who agreed to take on Angelo Mozilo’s bogus mortgages in 2004 or 2005. But I hadn’t realized he’s related to Harvey Mudd, although it makes sense now that you mention it.

  36. @BenKenobi

    A couple of years ago, a friend of mine who is a friend of Tucker proposed to him that I should do a monthly movie review on his show, but I haven’t heard of anything coming of the idea.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  37. OT, but I hope all is well with Audacious Epigone, who has abruptly ceased blogging.

  38. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Do you ever edit your comments? Some concision would make it easier for others, and maybe even you, to notice when you’ve nothing to say.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  39. Trevor H. says:
    @Anon

    Short version: people we don’t like are using the internet to say things we don’t approve of. It’s past time we finished reining in this so-called “free speech” thing. Let’s do some name-calling to speed up the process. Russian trolls, white supremacists, racists and sexists. How could we forget…Nazis.

  40. Trevor H. says:
    @Clyde

    Gotta love the phrase “excessive twerking” — one day soon, a supreme court justice will declaim: “I know it when I see it!”

  41. Anonymous[345] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    And on that turn, I think I can say with complete confidence that we have a 200 years plus more before blacks scratch the surface of false claim accusations by whites against blacks.

    Actually, there have been few if any of those.

    Blacks commit crime at far greater rates than Whites. That’s the reality.

  42. Trevor H. says:
    @TheBoom

    Why are so many patently ludicrous hoaxes swallowed so readily by the masses? Mass-media conditioning. Decades of it, day and night, 365 days per year.

    The reason they’re swallowed so uncritically is the same reason they’re committed so readily. Propaganda pressure builds up in the collective psyche and demands release.

    Objective reality fails to deliver the soothing tonic of confirmation. Prejudice goes begging. Hoaxes fill the need. This is also why the MSM drops each one instantly when it’s found out. The Narrative must be defended at all costs.

    • Replies: @Anon
  43. On second thought, I hope the Hate Hoax category never enters the National Consciousness. It’s too much fun to know exactly how these things will play out while the Respectable People are losing their heads.

  44. BenKenobi says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Nov.9, 2018 would have been a good time to follow up. Probably not too late. Sailer on Tucker would be win/win.

  45. @Hail

    The irony! A professor of “Psychology” in the “Criminal Justice” Department!

  46. ic1000 says:

    From the 2004 article: “a flier on Pitzer bulletin boards made the local idée fixe a little clearer: ‘Diversity and Campus Climate: You are invited to participate in a discussion about campus climate.’”

    It’s heartening to see how much American society has advanced in the past 15 years. Today, that ink-on-cellulose flyer would surely be replaced by a deluge of re-tweeted Instagram posts reading,

    “You are invited to participate in a conversation about campus climate.”

  47. benjaminl says:

    What would the trend look like if graphed over time? A hate hoax requires a receptive audience. Perhaps college campuses have long been receptive, but only recently has the rest of the public become so stupid?

    Leo 2000
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/a-brief-history-of-hate-crime-hoaxes/

    Wilcox 1994
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/hate-crime-hoaxes-america/

  48. https://reason.com/blog/2018/10/15/cornerstore-caroline-false-accusation

    I have refrained from commenting on this issue, because since 9/11 the number of stories regarding anything related to acts of one person (s) against another person(s) have tended to start out one way and gone another. But as this expands from seeming false claim to several I think it might be fair to chime in because the perspective has widened. And on that turn, I think I can say with complete confidence that we have a 200 years plus more to go before blacks scratch the surface of false claims/accusations by whites against blacks.

    And while I have no intention of defending anyone’s false claims, Laugh — I think it’s fair to say not only have blacks been subject to false claims/accusations historically, but as a population have paid the price by several magnitudes (an understatement) when whites, manufacture the same. And its clear that the matter remains in play.

    Take the last series of complaints by Mr. Sailor and those of Mr. Kersey, here are two men of sound mind, education status and influence whose goal to ride herd on blacks by coloring them as manufacturers of false claims as a people by relying on several small sample sizes.

    Even under the current information control coding:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/black-men–not-white-guys–face-false-alleg&#8230;

    https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf
    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Lawsuit-Against-Prince-Georges-Police-Includes-Allegations-of-Egregious-Misconduct-by-White-Officers-502740801.html

    https://m.metrotimes.com/table-and-bar/archives/2018/10/18/detroit-judge-tosses-gardening-while-black-case-brought-by-three-white-women

    If one wants to launch a basis for ginning up votes and garnering white support, I guess this might be one way to go. However, an astute (and that’s not me) observer of the tactic would cringe if that was expanded over time and to include a broader compilation, because the numb er of false claims by whites and the consequence to the black population as a whole —

    well, there’s just no contest. Though I suspect that astute people, already know that. One doesn’t have to be a liberal to know that broad comparisons are probably a dead end on this matter. Though its good for temporary traction.

    Sure, I don’t think there is any question that some black people make up tales. But if one is going to compare who makes up more tales about a certain population by another population, that’s unfair loaded contest in which the begged the question is supported by more than 100 years data.

    But I get it. Feel a little comeuppance vengeance. I get it.

  49. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    I agree with your reasoning on Hate Hoax > Hate Crime Hoax.

    Unfortunately, one usually does not get to choose.

    ___________

    Searching some specific text strings, with indefinite articles so as try to isolate uses of the concept and not simply the terms (consider difference between, “a fake hate crime” and “[she] faked a hate crime,” with the latter leaving “hate crime” adjectiveless and thus conceptually intact or even subtly validated):

    Google hits for phrases, all results
    — “a hate hoax” – 12,200 hits
    — “a hate crime hoax” – 18,400 hits
    — “a fake hate crime” – 21,300 hits
    — “a hoax hate crime” – 5,400 hits
    — “a staged hate crime” – 635 hits

    Google hits for same phrases, must include “Smollett”
    — “a hate hoax” “smollett” – 8,610 hits
    — “a hate crime hoax” “smollett” – 10,900 hits
    — “a fake hate crime” “smollett”- 7,550 hits
    — “a hoax hate crime” “smollett” – 2,160 hits
    — “a staged hate crime” “smollett” – 330 hits

    In terms of stand-alone results, we see “hate crime hoax” looks to have outperformed “hate hoax” and “fake hate crime” in the Smollett coverage and commentary (so far), but not by much. But in terms of relative gains, this does look like a Steve Sailer win:

    Relative Gains in hits for [phrase] from Smollett Case ([Total hits as of Feb. 21] / [Implied pre-Smollett hits])
    — “a hate hoax” – 3.4x
    — “a hate crime hoax” – 2.5x
    — “a fake hate crime” – 1.5x
    — “a hoax hate crime” – 1.7x
    — “a staged hate crime” – 2.1x

    This is just one attempt at quantifying this and may be imperfect, but it suggests that The Great Polar-Vortex MAGA-Attaq, Starring Jussie and the Nigerians has magnified “Hate Hoax” the most, in relative terms.

    “Hate Hoax” has had a large, one-time gain but is still outgunned by rhetorical pushers of “hate crime” (including many unwitting pushers).

    (Note: iSteve blog is still in top 10 hits for “hate hoax.”)

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    , @Anonymous
  50. if this double posted, it was wholly unintentional.

    Laugh

    I think you will find my examples appropriate to our time and place.

    However, since this contention is of “hoaxes” is posited as a constant and continuous construct, it would not be unreasonable for a counter to include the entire range of US history after all, when seeking truth — of any constructs impact on the now — how we got from there to here —

    historicism is a legitimate and appropriate model.

    It’s launching a crusade about identity politics being unfair and tawdry, abused, incorrect, mean spirited, hateful, dangerous, etc. only to realize that you owe may very well owe your existence to the identity politics set down as method of politics by the founders. And one has to wonder by what rationale why what was goose for the goose should be maligned by the gander. At the very least, to have any veracity, you have to condemn that which was embraced previously as:

    unfair, tawdry, abusive, incorrect, mean spirited, hateful, dangerous, etc.

    but as we are inclined to embrace the past practices, even ‘pedestalizing’ and making icons of virtue many of its practitioners, that would some gumption.

    Because what the founders (excuse the antiquarian reference) meant by equality is that of fair play among citizens and in President Jefferson’s case, among human beings — the equality is to “inalienable rights” (shunning the inalienable/unalienable rights debate).

    But I can certainly understand why you want to limit the discussion, so it “beggars” that one would move beyond this instance and invite a historical comparisons.

    It would be incorrect to consider my comments a defense of anyone making up tales to advance an agenda — whether said agenda is invasion, regime change, or opposition to this WH.

    • Replies: @Anon
  51. @Anonymous

    What does marketing have to do with a driver’s license?

    Marketing research is all about noticing patterns. Hell, it’s almost nothing else. Where do you think idiotic terms like “baby boomer”, “millennial”, and the rest came from?

    So is driving. For instance, that perforated white line in the center of the two-lane suddenly becomes solid. That’s a change in pattern, with serious implications. I could be coming over the hill in the opposite direction, and I don’t want anyone who can’t, or won’t, read patterns anywhere but in the passenger’s seat on that road.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. @Steve Sailer

    Yale University had a Seeley G. Mudd Library until it was demolished recently to make space for more residential housing.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  53. This guy McLaren is a known associate of Boston-born cotton baron Richard B Spencer. That doesn’t make him a bad person. Spencer ain’t bad either, just a full head of hair and trust fund are irritating. The Alt-Right was named in honor of Prussian-American model Carol Alt — admit it, Spencer!

    Evan McLaren gives credit to baby boomer Steve Sailer for work that Sailer has done noticing the anti-White HATE HOAX media scams.

  54. snorlax says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    That’s a good one.

    Of colleges in 2004 that had conservative orientations, those which still do include Liberty University, Hillsdale, some other obscure Christian schools and maybe some STEM-oriented land grant schools in deep red, very white states. The Claremont schools are nowadays no different from Oberlin. The students and faculty of BYU likely broke around 60 HRC 25 McMuffin 15 Trump.

  55. donut says:
    @Anon

    White slags and Black fags rule .

  56. donut says:
    @Clyde

    “Water seeks it’s own level” , from POTUS to third tier community activist .

  57. Jack D says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Seeley G. Mudd (Harvey’s brother) has buildings named for him at literally dozens of colleges. The family had serious money to give away because their dad got in on some lucrative mines.

  58. @Anon

    But wasn’t Barack Hussein Obama (PBUH) an adjunct professor of law in his
    earlier years, before he was discovered for his star potential in some political
    Schwab’s Drug Store?

  59. Jack D says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Most black people (especially black men) want as little as possible to do with the police and are not likely to put forth false claims (putting aside insurance fraud – in Philadelphia, before they put cameras on all the buses, whenever there was a bus accident they would get 50 injury claims even though there were only 25 people on the bus). False claims have historically been the province of women, especially white women. (Anyone who says “always believe women” has apparently not read To Kill a Mockingbird). Jussie made his claim mainly as a gay man – a real black man, even today, would have been expected to at least put up a fight with his “attackers”. Even Trayvon and the Gentle Giant got some punches in before the crackers murdered them.

  60. The Chicago Police Chief ain’t having any:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6729221/Jussie-Smollett-arrested-faked-racist-attack-lied-police-it.html

    I guess Smollett never thought how cops would regard a) having to deal with his BS instead of all the actual crimes going on around the city, and b) the picture he was giving of Chicago–known for its violence for generations, but hardly a White Supremacist enclave. Just watch footage of the ’68 Democratic convention–the cops are happily whaling on protesters of any color.

  61. @Hail

    “Hate Hoax” packs the best alliterative punch, but at least the concept is gaining a receptive audience.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
  62. @anonymous

    Laughing.

    I make no claims to fine writing. However, let me know what nothings you don’t get. And I will attempt to clarify what nothing I meant.

  63. @Anonymous

    Ohhh not more of this.

    Sure somewhere between 3 and 5% of the black population engages in criminal conduct. And that has been used repeatedly to ascribe both policy and ethos to entire population, incorrectly.

    But that is not the point here. The issue here is — certainly there are blacks who make-up stories. And no comment of mine defends that conduct, sorry to disappoint. However, as noted by my references, the supposed hoaxes on the subject of color weighs heavily against whites. And your refence is a perfect example of popular mythos in force —

    claim: blacks are criminally prone
    rationale: blacks are genetically predisposed to engage in crime
    support: proportionally commit more crimes (I think there is challenge here – but
    no need)

    Upon a general test of the percent of the black population, it’s generously 5%. It is an absolutely false(a hoax) that blacks in general are criminally prone based on the actual numbers. That hoax has been around quite some time and as your own behavior demonstrates , remains in place today. Upon further examination, the hoax becomes even more egregious, when one actually examinines the sociology of criminal conduct to environments and low and behold similar disproportions can be located when examining Irish, Italians, Polish, etc. who occupied similar environments in said communities. So skin color does not really appear to be key. Hoax, the rhetoric designed to dismiss environment so as to impugn blacks, to maintain the social order – a contemporary hoax.

  64. Screwtape says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    In short: no.

    Long answer you didnt ask for: on the continuum of aggressively commie to passively commie CMC still holds its relative position to the right of its peers.

    Its also a matter of perspective. The high priesthood of academia has gone so far left over the past 10 years that I’m sure CMC still appears conservative even though the actual students would not be so quick to label themseves as such.

    Since conservative now means nazi, this is not an attribute the school desires to advertise.

    Instead, the conservative spirit that survives only does so because it is able to cloak itself within certain fields of study, ie pragmatic real world application and/or classical academic rigor within economics, government, and science.

    IMO, all that remains of conservativism at CMC is a few fleeting traditions and the shared culutral value of getting a job and making something of yourself in the world.

    So while the pretty lies flourish as they do elsewhere, at least the idea that there is an economy, a real system out there in which you need to understand enough to add real value in order to get paid still prevails.

    Theres a bit of a highbrow trade school culture to CMC that keeps it slightly more grounded.

    We used to jokingly call it Claremont Mechanical College as a kind of agree and amplify F you to the Pomona hens who liked to hold their higher ranking and academic purity (not sullied by an overt desire to work for a big 6 or buldge bracket I bank) over us, as if we cared. Yeah us knuckle draggers wanted to make money. Well in our defense, back then we didnt have a politicians agitating to pay off our loans for us either.

    CMC has gone full snowflake like everywhere else, a predictable outcome of moving away from evil white males from industrious upper middle class and high gumption working class families, toward more colorful (and aggreived) demos that have been well schooled in hunting for the ghosts of discrimination.

    Still, most kids on campus will stand beneath their ‘love trumps hate’ banners and pepper you with questions about where you work then try to pitch themselves into your network, aka do you give internships?

    My sense is that the state religion of the Prog death cult makes for a lot of tension over showing sufficient faith but most kids really just want good jobs; to carry their very expensive education toward their promised trajectories.

    The infighting of old guard v. Progs on the board and admin continues over the direction of CMC but I stopped paying much attention (and sending $) a few years back when the Prez and admin totally gave in to violent vibrants.

    In my day 25 years back CMC gave me important lessons about all this stuff though I wouldnt have anticipated the acceleration.

    CMC was the target of much hate. The embodiment of the brewing animous toward tradition, whiteness, masculinity, etc.

    To Pomona we were lowbrow money hungry wall street whores, to Scripps we were rapists in wait and the evil patriarchy, to pitzer we were capitalist robber barons stealing wealth from mother Gaia, to Mudd we were unserious midwit chads and jocks who stole all the scripps girls. Good times.

    So here we are, so much progress! All that hate back then has become officially sanctioned. And the search for Haven Monahan in his kkk gown rages on (unsuccessfully).

  65. @Jack D

    I am not sure how to respond to this comment.

    1. I don’t approve of anyone assaulting anyone for any reason beyond self defense.

    2. I do not approve and cannot support same sex relations, but that is a private matter, unless they are advocating for some policy, ie. marriage, then I am stand firmly against.

    3. I think it is a sad consequence that blacks have indulged the dominant populations views regarding same relational behavior — in my view that is counter to long standing ethos. But in getting a slice of the pie, I understand the politics. Crumbs from the table and all.

    4. One either fights of flights but it is possible to be completely blind sided.

    5. By if the record is as indicated, this was unnecessary, as there are plenty of actual cases on hand, concerning color. And I think you have a valid point that this was more false claim concerning homosexual conduct than color. Though that provides little resonance here.

    The black population should chagrin it as they have and move on, blacks don’t have to where every hat that whites say they must where. There’s no reason to be guilt mongered into some kind of collective shame. The overwhelming evidence remains that when it comes to hoaxes about color — whites own the practice in depth, breadth and scope.

    I am stunned, stunned, stunned how the Chicago police handled this matter — not at all.

    • Replies: @Anon
  66. MarkinPNW says:
    @Anonymous

    If there is any legitimate complaint blacks have against whites, it is the way white politicians in the ’60’s enacted “welfare” programs that destroyed the incentive for functional black families, having the government replace the black man as masculine protector and provider for his woman and kids, leaving only the truly toxic form of masculinity as a violent gang member open to most of the black males. With the exception of a few very talented 10th or perhaps even talented 1% such as blacks like Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell, blacks don’t even know or care, they just keep wanting the free goodies that keep corrupting them.

    • Replies: @MarkinPNW
  67. @Anonymous

    not intended to change the subject at all, but to address your comment and support some group being assigned a criminally prone disposition.

    I think the physical attribute has just made it harder for blacks to climb out of that cellar.

  68. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Interesting.

  69. MarkinPNW says:
    @MarkinPNW

    My editing time has expired; re-reading my post maybe it does assume too much non-PC stereotyping. Perhaps I could have said “…many blacks don’t even know or care…”, still does not let those liberal white politicians of the ’60’s off the hook for dis-incentivizing functional black families.

  70. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    False claims have historically been the province of women, especially white women. (Anyone who says “always believe women” has apparently not read To Kill a Mockingbird).

    Do you always cite fiction in support of your factual claims?

    Ironically, the writing of To Kill a Mockingbird was itself an early precursor to the modern day “hate hoax.” Intended to smear White people with a made up story.

    • Replies: @Anon
  71. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Sure somewhere between 3 and 5% of the black population engages in criminal conduct. And that has been used repeatedly to ascribe both policy and ethos to entire population, incorrectly.

    Ah, but what percentage of black males age 15-35 commit violent crimes, robbery, and burglary? That is the real question because that is the group people are afraid of.

    The rest of your post is nonfactual. Credible statistics show that black males commit crimes–including interracial violent crime–at rates far in excess of those of their White and Asian peers. Check the fed gov statistics released under Obama.

  72. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Let’s go with “hate hoax” and try to make it stick. We could also try to make it understood that the word “hate” in the phrase refers to the hatred in the perpetrator of the hoax toward the particular racial group that is sought to be framed. For example, the theory that Smullett was motivated by a hatred of Whites.

    Good use of “validate” in your comment. That is a better description than the one I gave.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  73. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Let’s go with Hate Hoax.

  74. HATE HOAX

    Where is the political leader who will tell White Core Americans how the corporate propaganda apparatus uses HATE HOAXES to GUILT TRIP White Core Americans into giving up their country?

    The HATE HOAXES are not merely designed to stir up anti-White animosity amongst Jews, Blacks and other non-Whites, they are designed to silence Whites so that Whites will not advance their own interests politically and culturally.

    The Republican Party ruling class and Trump have done nothing to advance the political and cultural interests of White Core America.

    Sam Francis:

    But the formation of white racial consciousness does mean that whites would recognize themselves as a race and their racially based behavior as legitimate, and hence it would mean the end of tolerance for nonwhite assaults on white people and the norms of white civilization. Whites would simply no longer countenance nonwhite aggression and insults or the idolization of nonwhite heroes, icons, and culture; white children would be raised in accordance with what is proper to being white, and norms openly recognized as appropriate to whites would be the legitimizing and dominant norms of American society as they were prior to the 1960s. Racial guilt and truckling would end.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2011/02/sam_francis_in/

  75. Dtbb says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Do you even know any black people? Go to school with any?

    • Replies: @Anon
  76. gcochran says:

    Your numbers are wrong. “New research on the growth in the scope and scale of felony convictions finds that, as of 2010, 3 percent of the total US population and 15 percent of the African-American male population have served time in prison. People with felony convictions more broadly account for 8 percent of the overall population and 33 percent of the African-American male population. “

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  77. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    The Claremont Institute was founded by former Claremont McKenna prof Harry Jaffa but is not affiliated with the college itself. They did publish this:
    https://claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/
    which was arguably influential:

  78. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

  79. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    Actually Jussie claimed (claims?) that after the bleaching, beating and noose entanglement he got the better of his two attackers with his fierce ninjutsu skillz and sent them running. If you screw with Jussie, then your ass is cruising for a bruising.

  80. Anon[759] • Disclaimer says:

    So the Chicago cops say that Jussie pulled off this hoax as a part of salary negotiations?

    1. How does this help in salary negotiations?

    2. This is part of a pattern of hate hoaxes having nothing to do with a twisted attempt to raise awareness of hate, but rather for some unrelated personal reason.

    3. The idea that black gay men are subject to tons of violence: Is that supported by data? Black men are subjected to violence by black men. Black gay men may be subjected to violence by black men more than black s straight men are, proportionally, but show me the data. Gays are subject to violence? How much of this is when gays hit on straight men, and how much involves alcohol? All these claims lead back to advocacy organizations when you try to nail them down, and I am suspicious. Even if percentage wise they are true, numerically I think they are trivial.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  81. bomag says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Please tell us what blue pills taste like.

    I’m guessing the percentage of White people filing false reports on Blacks is a micro-percentage, yet you are happy to draw conclusions based on that. Small percentages matter; crime is a salient feature, and crime complaints are also a proxy for a suite of other things.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  82. @EliteCommInc.

    Sure somewhere between 3 and 5% of the black population engages in criminal conduct.

    “According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime.”

    So in your universe, for every 8 to 10 black men who have been in prison only 1 deserved to be there. You must believe that the American criminal justice system works overtime to frame innocent black bodies. And this doesn’t even take into account the ones who got away with their crimes. Paranoid delusions.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  83. @ThreeCranes

    I think I have been this route.

    If you can support that 80% of black males go to prison, you are welcome to make that analysis.

    But chances unless you live in certain neighborhoods, associate with certain criminal elements, more than likely, one can avoid prison.

    I just realized who I am responding — laugh.

    I have no doubt that someone who thinks plantation work was a picnic compared to all of labour of whites can work out that model. I stand where I came in, most blacks 90% plus do not engage in criminal activity.

  84. @gcochran

    You have no idea what my numbers are based on. If you want to review how and why I get to those numbers there are available. But for now, let’s take you numbers at face value. So 77% of black men will not be involved in criminal activity. And those that do, your 33% are largely confined to certain urban environments. And said environments are known across cultures to have said criminal activities. As I indicated previously, blacks occupy the in larger numbers than some of worst environments in which criminal activity occurs.
    __________________

    Let’s take the number of black males over 19, that’s roughly 11,000,000 of that number there are 487,000 blacks in prison and jail – that is about 4.5%. Now suppose I include black males (older than 13) some 18,000,000 of any age against all men in prison black or white that is roughly about 1,000,000 that’s about 5.7%. I do that because I am keenly aware that crime stats are more than mere prison populations. And I think I am being generous in my assessments. But suppose I was even more generous and only accounted for the males over 18, that number would be roughly 9-10%.

    Ignoring issues such as revolving door/criminal manufacture — I am comfortable with my numbers. Now here’s a hint, crime overall is rare, regardless of skin color. Most people obey the law in general, and serious crimes as a staple of US life.

    —– So according to you, 15% of the black male population have been in prison, that is roughly 3,200,000 over the course of some time frame unknown. But it does not reflect an annual reference because currently there are 487,000 black men in state and federal prisons. You are missing some variable in that assessment. But in either case, based on your own assessments 85 % of the black male population is not associated with criminal behavior — hardly a case for genetic disposition.

    I stand where I came. Excuse my poking fun at your plantation work being a picnic compared to white labor — it has to be one of the most peculiar descriptions of slave dynamics i have ever heard. Students don’t believe me when I share that story.

    • Replies: @Anon
  85. @bomag

    I don’t drugs. And I have no intention of starting.

    I think my perspective is very clear on the hoaxing matter. I have no doubt that some blacks being the humans they are like whites make up cases. But if we take the matter across time even contemporary time as my references indicate — whites manufacture more false scenarios regarding blacks than blacks and the consequences of whites doing so has had large scale negative consequences.

    I even noted some false narratives to impugn blacks used by no small number of on this sight and even a couple to this discussion. And according to the FBI much to the anger of no small number of whites, it turns out that whites are more responsible for crimes based on color as motive than any other population. Now this has some very upset because they have grown acustomed to manipulating black on white crimes as crimes motivated by animus — and upon examination turns out that has been a false narrative, if the FBI is to believed and given that the crime states to make that false narrative were based on the FBI crime records, i find it interesting that the same people are aghast and calling foul.

  86. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    2. This is part of a pattern of hate hoaxes having nothing to do with a twisted attempt to raise awareness of hate, but rather for some unrelated personal reason.

    Or it was done out of racial hatred of Whites.

  87. @Screwtape

    Thanks for the long answer I did not ask for. It was most enlightening.

  88. @snorlax

    The students and faculty of BYU likely broke around 60 HRC 25 McMuffin 15 Trump.

    BYU! What’s next? Bob Jones University supporting Kamala Harris?

    What the hell is the matter with Mormons?

  89. @Jack D

    before the crackers murdered them

    Murdered them Jack? Really? And Zimmerman is now a cracker?

    Not good Jack. Not good.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  90. Jack D says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    IIRC correctly, Rachel Jenteal reported that he was being chased by a fat ass cracker, although there was some question as to whether he meant a fat ass-cracker and was concerned that Zimmerman was going to go all Deliverance on him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anonymous
    , @Anon
  91. @Steve Sailer

    Speaking of Mudd, this fellow on I’ve Got a Secret in 1956 also felt sympathy for the injured Booth. (Yes, I posted it on another thread a few days ago, but now it’s on-topic, kinda.)

    Oh, and the theme music is Leroy Anderson’s “Plink, Plank, Plunk”, in case you were wondering. With that, “Syncopated Clock” on the Late Show, and “Sleigh Ride” every December, Leroy could afford to live in Connecticut.

  92. @Jack D

    IIRC correctly, Rachel Jenteal reported that he was being chased by a fat ass cracker, although there was some question as to whether he meant a fat ass-cracker and was concerned that Zimmerman was going to go all Deliverance on him.

    We’ll never know, because that was the only call in the entire history of cellular telephony that wasn’t saved in a mountain somewhere in Utah.

  93. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    “creepy ass cracker”, and not “chased”.

    Please get your facts straight about this incident and trial.

  94. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    All your comments sound like a gay Episcopal minister trying to convince the congregation to set up a sanctuary dormitory for illegal alien felon parolees in the church.

    I bet To Kill a Mockingbird is your favorite book and you believe all black criminals are innocent. I bet you believe the Covington boys menaced assaulted and disrespected big chief buffalo poop.

    Smarmy sanctimonious holier than thou social climbing virtue signaling naive brainwashed New York Times reading criminal loving liberal is what you are.

    Unz readers are realists, not naive brainwashed idiot liberals like you.

    What is the brain of a liberal?

    The brain of a liberal is an empty sink.
    SPLC propaganda puts in the plug and turns on the faucet. The empty sink fills up with the current propaganda.

    A few days later SPLC propaganda central takes out the plug and the liberal brain is empty till propaganda central fills the empty brain again.

    You know nothing about blacks and crime, absolutely nothing. You’re just repeating lies told by liberals about black crime.

  95. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Do you write college term papers for a living? I can just see the thesaurus you constantly consult searching for just the right word to convey your sanctimonious preaching. It must take you an hour to compose each of your sermons.

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  96. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I had the rape caseload when I was a probation officer. That book caused thousands of black rapists to be found innocent by ignorant idiot naive liberal jurors. Because the morons believed that unspeakable obscenity of a book.

    Harper Lee didn’t write it. Her friend Truman Capote wrote it. It was a massive propaganda coup by pro black criminals to make liberal empty sink liberals believe that White women lie about being taped by black men just to get them sent to prison.

    That book is the equivalent of Lenin and Stalin’s diatribes against kulaks and other non Russian communists. It didn’t cause black men to rape White women. But it did cause brainwashed idiot White jurors to find black rapists innocent.
    There was a 1o year period when the Alameda county (Oakland) district attorney refused to file charges against a black rapist who raped a White woman because they knew the Black Panthers black Muslims and White liberals would stir up a riot. Because that book convinced the idiot intellectuals that black men aren’t really the rapists they are.

    To Kill a Mockingbird set off a 15 year period when it was impossible to convict a black man of raping a White woman.

    It only ended when the feminazis used rape as a crusade to attack the White police and district attorneys who arrested and prosecuted rapists

    And OMG were the mostly Jewish feminazis shocked when they found that the majority of rapists were black, not White men.

    As an investigator and hunter of rapists I’ll always be grateful to the feminazis for ending the reign of To Kill a Mockingbird rape defendes

    BTW Elitecomm. San Francisco was never more than 11 percent black. Yet all, and I mean all of the rapists in my 27 years were black. There may have been a White or Asian but I can’t remember one who was not black.

    At least we could get convictions and were able to charge them unlike Oakland that could not charge blacks with rape of a White woman because there’d be a riot.

  97. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    So you’re not aware that To Kill a Mockingbird was a massive propaganda coup by anti White pro black criminal liberals to set up a perfect defense against rape charges.?

    You’re very intelligent and well informed and you’re a lawyer. How can you not realize what that book is?

  98. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Your sanctimonious sermons would be easier to read if you just put away the thesaurus and stopped attempting to be all intellectual and logical.

  99. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dtbb

    Elitecomm writes like a black academic trying to be an intellectual. I think he she is a black professor of crapology somewhere.

    Or a gay Episcopal minister who created those rebaptism ceremonies for the transgenders. “ I baptize thee Caitylin in the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit “ in the hope of becoming a bishop.

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  100. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I’m right you are a black professor of crapology studies. Your writing style gave it away.

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  101. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    I really feel sorry for that girl. She only met Saint Trayvon a few weeks before he was killed and she was pulled into that hysterical orgy of liberalism. And she’s obese and thus vulnerable to men making fun of her. I hope her life is OK.

  102. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Interesting fact about Booth’s escape from Maryland where Dr Mudd treated him to Virginia where he thought he’d be safe in confederate territory.

    The smuggler who helped him and ferried him across the Potomac was a black slave. Like a lot of slaves he worked for himself as well as his owner. When the war came along the federal troops patrolled the river and Maryland Virginia border. So there grew up a big smuggling business for both goods but confederate spies and supplies.

    This slave had his own boat and become one of the most expert and well paid smugglers. He was asked to smuggle Booth to Virginia because he was the best smuggler around.

    History is interesting. I love it.

  103. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trevor H.

    I don’t think the hoaxes are believed by the masses. It’s just the media and idiot intellectuals that believe the propaganda.

  104. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Everyone who lives in cold climates knows that street crime goes way down to almost nothing January to March because robbers and rapists know few victims are out and about at night, especially at 2am. Out at 10 after a movie maybe but 2am not likely.

    And then he eagerly told the police it was all in camera. Police acquire the ability to know fact from fiction very fast.

  105. @Anon

    Laughing.

    I guess one response to the numbers is to make personal attacks. You have absolutely no way what my skin color is. Nor does it matter.

    The numbers are what the numbers are. And there’s nothing about my writing style, that is reflective of any color trait.

    But you may obsess about the matter as you will in lieu of anything to say concerning content.

  106. @Anon

    Laughing. I guess making assumptions about my writing style is one way to go. I am ever amazed when the arguments fail, how easy the discussion turns on the supposed of personal attribution.

    I make no contentions that I am intellectual, nor do I make anything but humility concerning my writing. However, I my responses to the comments and the numbers is accurate and not based on anyone’s color, ethnicity, background or education — just the issues.

  107. @Anon

    Whatever my writing, the issue regarding my choice of mate, when said date arrives, is not in question and that choice cannot, will not be and never has been male.

    Given the response, I take it you have run out of any relevant responses to the issues and are spinning yarns about the personal which have no bearing on the issues as presented.

  108. Ohhh good grief,

    Apparently, you are wholly ignorant of my views regarding immigration or relational behavior.

    Having been raised a Catholic, my view of the incident in question has been to side, if there is a side with the students, save for one aspect, the removing of the shirt in the call and response — other than that — it’s a nonissue.

    I have several favorite books, and lo and behold, some of them are non-fiction. But if I had to note a favorite genre’ science fiction engrossed my formative years.

    Anyone who claims that skin color is to IQ as a genetic trait as scientific fact, is not being a realist. The realistic position is that we have no clue what coding or biological process comprise the subjective construct of IQ. It’s possible, but then the hurdle remains separating environment from biological traits – and that remains no small task.

    Hmmmmm . . . that anyone here thinks I have liberal leanings would be bizarre. I am unclear what realists manufacture cases regarding criminal conduct to manage an agenda that is unsupportable by the data. As tough as it is, the data just does not support that most blacks are criminally prone. Even blacks in urban environments. No, I just decided to question the numbers to the narrative. A narrative I once engaged. The problem is that it is simply inaccurate. Realists tend to avoid advancing inaccurate constructs.

    Some time back there was a book written, I think it was titled.

    “Statistics Don’t Lie, But Liars Do.” (I might have that title wrong.)

    Trying to formulate an accurate rendering of social constructs is very tough. I have done a small quantatative and qualitative analysis — it’s very very tough. The proportional argument simply does support what for several decades is has been used to support.

    And skin color, education, faith and practice, relational choices — has no bearing on the question. But never let it be said that at the end of the day, name calling isn’t a refuge for empty rhetoric.

    Interesting.

  109. Excuse the delay in response. It was not intentional. I just did not return to this discussion until this afternoon.

    Imagine my surprise at the responses — not. Celibacy does not equate to same relational desire, or conduct.

    Laughing.

    good grief.

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