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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

Kerry’s Wrong Address
by Steve Sailer
May 11, 2016

There’s been a lot of talk about Trump as the so-called “alt-right” candidate, but he’s actually been running an “alt-center” campaign, staking out positions that are controversial because they dissent in a commonsensical fashion from the increasingly bizarre mainstream globalist ideology.

One of the striking side effects of the Trump phenomenon is how he encourages more respectable sorts to attempt to articulate their establishment principles, which, when spelled out, turn out to be terrifying in their implications.

… Consider what the current secretary of state just said.

John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, recently delivered Northeastern University’s commencement address. His artless enunciation of today’s elite conventional wisdom of Invade the World/Invite the World offered Americans a glance at the coming dystopian nightmare their leaders are complacently expecting them to smilingly welcome.

Read the whole thing there.

By the way, I got the idea of Trump as the “Alt-Center” candidate from a commenter here a week or two ago, but I couldn’t find the old comment to link to it.

Update: It was from commenter candid_observer.

 
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  1. Except for “Antarctica, the West Bank and the Golan Heights”?

    Not even close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

    • Replies: @cwhatfuture
    The only border that really exists, the only one Kerry wants to keep, is that of Martha's Vineyard. No refugees settled there. No Latin American peasants pouring in there (unless brought as a nanny). Kerry does not suffer what he wishes to inflict on us and he is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.
    , @Anonymous
    largest ongoing territorial disputes in terms of land mass :
    1. chinese occupation of tibet
    2. moroccan occupation of western sahara
    3. indonesian occupation of papua

    highest casualty count in an ongoing territorial dispute:
    1. sudanese occupation of darfur
    2.chinese occupation of tibet
    3.indonesian occupation of papua.

    , @AnotherDad
    Steve didn't say no territorial disputes.

    West Bank and Golan Heights are different from say Tibet or Kashmir in that Israel is not actually claiming--yet--that they are part of Israel.
  2. It sounds like Kerry is implying something like the new Lord Mayor of London: Either we let these rootless young people (e.g., 3 wives, 17 kids) come to America with open arms, or they will come with bombs to hurt us; and the best way to defeat terrorism is to remove the incentive for terrorism, namely, by welcoming them to the USA. As if that is the only incentive to terrorism.

    Again, this kind of nonsense will continue as long as the wealthy and privileged (of any color or background) don’t have to interact with these other cultures in any serious way, and as long as our social safety net can sustain these huddled masses. Elites, particularly economic and political elites, always think the same way: they, themselves, will be fine; as for the rest, who cares?

    This is the kind of attitude that ultimately fosters populism and even an ugly form of it. Which is precisely why the elite “invade/invite” theology needs to be overturned, before it engenders something worse.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Yes, the English must be very proud today.
  3. A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace…
    You may say I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the world will be as one

    • Replies: @Kingdong
    Imagine there’s no borders
    Like Bryan Caplan's cartoon
    Nothing to kill or die for
    Unless you're Muslim too
    Imagine all the weak hwhytes
    Cowering under the boot...
    You may say I’m a monster
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll kowtow
    And the world will be a slum
    , @Father O'Hara
    I've always been partial to McCartney: "Get back,get back,get back to where you once belonged..."
    , @AnotherDad
    Very well done Jack.

    Yeah, "Imagine" is indeed the cloying, annoying anthem of the utopian idiots. It induces in any normal person at least a tinge of desire to smack Lennon's oh so precious face--but he's dead.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do.........."

    Quite so. But instead of Lennon's version, we will get this one:

    Imagine (A Perfect Circle)
    , @Priss Factor
    Lennon wrote that song as a rich millionaire. His leftism was a conceit. It had nothing to do with the real world.

    But I think there was genuine idealism in Lennon. Naive and silly, yes, but Imagine is a sincere utopian song.

    But today's globalism is not about utopianism. It is really driven by greed, powerlust, supremacism, desperation, aggression.

    Lennon also sang 'imagine no possession.' Globalism is oligarchical, a hunger for more money. It is driven by capitalism. Communism never had this kind of reach.
    And Hollywood and MTV spread vanity, materialism, narcissism, and piggery.
    Rap promotes thug culture and war culture. Video games, a global phenom, offer violent fantasies.
    Globalism is driven by super-pigs like Sheldon Adelson and Koch Bros. And the Bushes and the Romneys. Democrats are now the party of 1%. Big money is going to Hillary. Also, US takes in people from China, India, Russia, Iran, and etc and turns them around to serve globalism against their own native nations.

    Lennon's song is spiritual even if it says 'no religion'. It is new age feely-good stuff.
    But globalism is about worship of mammon, sodom, thugro, hedonism.

    Also, masses of poor who move to the West are not motivated by some spiritual dream or vision. They just want free stuff. They want welfare and wanna be piggish walmart shoppers or shoplifters. Or they want to rape white women.

    Lennon's song is sane compared to today's globalism.

    Globo song is more like

    Imagine there’s only Glob
    Fisted up your ass
    It kills everyone who resists(just as Gadfly)
    And the religion is the homo-anus.
    Imagine all the people
    Living like piggish Walmart black friday freaks.
    You may say I’m exaggerating
    But I assure you it is true
    I hope someday you see the light
    and realize who's behind the Glob.
  4. “There’s been a lot of talk about Trump as the so-called “alt-right” candidate, but he’s actually been running an “alt-center” campaign,”

    America has become such a Left Wing nation due to changing racial demographics & the brainwashing of young people, that the Alternate Center is the now considered Far Right Wing.

    Even a Liberal Republican like Lindsey Homosexual Graham would be considered a Far Right Winger if he were were to step foot on a college campus like Mizzou or UC Berkeley.

  5. @Jack D
    A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Imagine there’s no borders
    Like Bryan Caplan’s cartoon
    Nothing to kill or die for
    Unless you’re Muslim too
    Imagine all the weak hwhytes
    Cowering under the boot…
    You may say I’m a monster
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll kowtow
    And the world will be a slum

    • Replies: @Anonym
    I normally hate poetry and lyrics done in comments because it's usually done poorly and overly praised. However this has potential. Eliminate the white misspelling and the obscure Caplan reference and it would be improved imo.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Well done, sir!
    , @RadicalCenter
    BRILLIANT! We need more of your poetic contributions here.
    , @Priss Factor
    "Trump" - A Van Halen "Jump" Parody for the 2016 Campaign Season

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-VfW9m7UM
    , @SFG
    If you're doing the Jared Taylor thing, I believe the favored variant spelling is 'huWhite'.

    Nice job.
  6. Immigrant from former USSR [AKA "Florida Resident"] says:

    Attention Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz:
    At 5:00 PM E.T. this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com .
    Sure, many of them are 3 to 10 by the same commentator, but some are by one person.
    It is pretty rare that articles at Unz Review collect that many comments.

    Article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO on 2016_05_09 this:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435138/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conservatives-never-trump-2016
    That article collected 2671 comments, as of now.

    Isn’t it a sign, how many people have read it there ?

    I will be happy to promote Unz Review. Tell me, how to do that.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    Sailer's blog is like the Frankfurt School of the alt-right. It is plenty influential already.
    , @EriK
    I much more interested in quality comments than I am in the quantity of comments. More than 200 is too many in my book.
    , @Anonymous
    Sites like The Daily Stormer regularly conduct "raids" on National Review articles they don't like where they swarm the comment threads to express mass disapproval. The large comment counts can be misleading.
    , @Cagey Beast
    It's impossible to read that many comments so that's flaw rather than a selling point of those other sites. If anything I'd love to see comments sections somehow evolve into the political equivalent of Github. I have no clue how that could be done but someone needs to get on that right away. I'm just a Steve Jobs type of ideas man on this one.
    , @Daniel Williams

    ... this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com ... [an] article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO ... collected 2671 comments ... [the same article at Unz has fewer than 100 comments as of this wroting]
     
    Yeah, but the aggregate IQs of the commenters in each of the three groups is approximately equal.

    Taki's commenters are retards. NRO commenters are undersea plants.
  7. John Kerry is 72. I guess Donald Trump is 69, but the difference in being alive from the neck up between the two is incredible. Kerry is now a doddering old man. He should be spending his time on the golf course and puttering around in the garden. Any regaling of how he thinks the world works should best be confined to the dining table during the holidays. Why is he still in public office?

    Wanting to render STEM (and all other) jobs worthless through open borders… just what college grads want to hear. I agree with a Takimag commenter that you can sense the fear of Trump in Kerry’s address. He is so out of touch. DJT is going to win in a landslide if this is the best the Democrats can offer.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Hey, did you know John Kerry served in Vietnam?
    , @Jefferson
    "John Kerry is 72. I guess Donald Trump is 69, but the difference in being alive from the neck up between the two is incredible. Kerry is now a doddering old man."

    William Shatner has way more energy than than John Kerry and William is 85 years old.
    , @Thomas Fuller
    My opinion of John Kerry was finally crystallized by this incident, in which he (except for a few ineffectual mumblings) failed to intervene:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

    OK, the student was being a pain, but the response was wildly disproportionate, something one might expect in a police state – which, under Mr Heinz and his pals, the USA seems to have become.
  8. Is it appropriate for a sitting VP, in a commencement speech, to call out by name the opposition candidate?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Yes. American Presidents and VPs are our fellow citizens, not royalty who are above partisan politics. As such they are entitled to voice their opinions freely.

    That being said, everyone "respectable" will be calling Trump Hitler every day from now until November.
  9. @Immigrant from former USSR
    Attention Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz:
    At 5:00 PM E.T. this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com .
    Sure, many of them are 3 to 10 by the same commentator, but some are by one person.
    It is pretty rare that articles at Unz Review collect that many comments.

    Article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO on 2016_05_09 this:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435138/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conservatives-never-trump-2016
    That article collected 2671 comments, as of now.

    Isn't it a sign, how many people have read it there ?

    I will be happy to promote Unz Review. Tell me, how to do that.

    Sailer’s blog is like the Frankfurt School of the alt-right. It is plenty influential already.

  10. @Immigrant from former USSR
    Attention Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz:
    At 5:00 PM E.T. this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com .
    Sure, many of them are 3 to 10 by the same commentator, but some are by one person.
    It is pretty rare that articles at Unz Review collect that many comments.

    Article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO on 2016_05_09 this:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435138/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conservatives-never-trump-2016
    That article collected 2671 comments, as of now.

    Isn't it a sign, how many people have read it there ?

    I will be happy to promote Unz Review. Tell me, how to do that.

    I much more interested in quality comments than I am in the quantity of comments. More than 200 is too many in my book.

  11. @Anonymous
    Except for "Antarctica, the West Bank and the Golan Heights"?

    Not even close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

    The only border that really exists, the only one Kerry wants to keep, is that of Martha’s Vineyard. No refugees settled there. No Latin American peasants pouring in there (unless brought as a nanny). Kerry does not suffer what he wishes to inflict on us and he is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    he [Kerry] is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.
     
    Are you quite sure about that?
    , @Clyde

    The only border that really exists, the only one Kerry wants to keep, is that of Martha’s Vineyard. No refugees settled there. No Latin American peasants pouring in there (unless brought as a nanny). Kerry does not suffer what he wishes to inflict on us and he is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.How migration transformed Martha’s Vineyard
     
    Martha's Vineyard is full of Brazilians these days.
    "An estimated 3,000 Brazilians live on Martha’s Vineyard. Many work illegally; others, such as Tarcisio de Oliveira (right), who owns a landscaping company, are legal...."
    , @Brutusale
    Not quite. The Vineyard has been pretty multi culti for a while.

    http://www.blackpast.org/aah/inkwell-martha-s-vineyard-1890s

    The service class on the Vineyard, and on tonier Nantucket to a lesser extent, has morphed from Irish and Eastern European in the 1990s to Brazilian/Jamaican/Central American.

    The only border Kerry wants to recognize is the one between Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/sen_john_kerry_docks_new_boat.html

  12. @Immigrant from former USSR
    Attention Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz:
    At 5:00 PM E.T. this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com .
    Sure, many of them are 3 to 10 by the same commentator, but some are by one person.
    It is pretty rare that articles at Unz Review collect that many comments.

    Article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO on 2016_05_09 this:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435138/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conservatives-never-trump-2016
    That article collected 2671 comments, as of now.

    Isn't it a sign, how many people have read it there ?

    I will be happy to promote Unz Review. Tell me, how to do that.

    Sites like The Daily Stormer regularly conduct “raids” on National Review articles they don’t like where they swarm the comment threads to express mass disapproval. The large comment counts can be misleading.

  13. @Kingdong
    Imagine there’s no borders
    Like Bryan Caplan's cartoon
    Nothing to kill or die for
    Unless you're Muslim too
    Imagine all the weak hwhytes
    Cowering under the boot...
    You may say I’m a monster
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll kowtow
    And the world will be a slum

    I normally hate poetry and lyrics done in comments because it’s usually done poorly and overly praised. However this has potential. Eliminate the white misspelling and the obscure Caplan reference and it would be improved imo.

    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR
    Eat it:

    Sonnet LXVI (66; I was not sure about the font)

    Tired with all these, for restful death I cry,
    As to behold desert a beggar born,
    And needy nothing trimm'd in jollity,
    And purest faith unhappily forsworn,
    And gilded honour shamefully misplaced,
    And maiden virtue rudely strumpeted,
    And right perfection wrongfully disgraced,
    And strength by limping sway disabled
    And art made tongue-tied by authority,
    And folly, doctor-like, controlling skill,
    And simple truth miscalled simplicity,
    And captive good attending captain ill:
    Tired with all these, from these would I be gone,
    Save that, to die, I leave my love alone.

  14. Which big U.S city will be the first to elect a Muslim mayor? Saint Paul, Minneapolis, Oakland, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York City, Chicago, or Los Angeles?

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Not Chicago-'less it's a BLACK muslem.
    , @Perspective
    I'm not sure if it still counts as a big city on its own anymore, but I would imagine it would probably be Detroit. In North America as a whole, the first million plus city to elect a Muslim mayor is Calgary, Alberta.
    , @Wilkey
    Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity.
    , @SFG
    Detroit or somewhere in Michigan, I imagine.

    #2 concentration of Arab-Americans is the NYC area, but I think another bunch of people in the area might have a little more clout.
  15. @Anonym
    I normally hate poetry and lyrics done in comments because it's usually done poorly and overly praised. However this has potential. Eliminate the white misspelling and the obscure Caplan reference and it would be improved imo.

    Eat it:

    Sonnet LXVI (66; I was not sure about the font)

    Tired with all these, for restful death I cry,
    As to behold desert a beggar born,
    And needy nothing trimm’d in jollity,
    And purest faith unhappily forsworn,
    And gilded honour shamefully misplaced,
    And maiden virtue rudely strumpeted,
    And right perfection wrongfully disgraced,
    And strength by limping sway disabled
    And art made tongue-tied by authority,
    And folly, doctor-like, controlling skill,
    And simple truth miscalled simplicity,
    And captive good attending captain ill:
    Tired with all these, from these would I be gone,
    Save that, to die, I leave my love alone.

  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Trump’s past crude sex talk collides with White House bid ”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/from-playboy-to-president-trumps-past-behavior-collides-with-his-white-house-bid/2016/05/09/46bed6f8-12fe-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

    “You could’ve gotten her, right?” Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997. “You could’ve nailed her.”

    “I think I could have,” Trump said.

    How about singer Mariah Carey? “Would you bang her?” Stern asked. Trump replied, “I would do it without hesitation.”

    Trump’s crude talk on-air with Stern between 1990 and 2005 was part of an image the businessman cultivated as a Manhattan playboy who had so many women that he barely had time to sleep. He was often seen at trendy nightclubs with different women, appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, wrote in his books about all the women chasing him and publicly boasted about his sex life.

    When asked by Playboy magazine in 2004 about Viagra, Trump boasted: “I just have never needed it.” He went on to say that what he really needed was an “anti-Viagra, something with the opposite effect.”

    “I’m not bragging,” he bragged. “I’m just lucky.”

    Some of Trump’s most raw language came during his appearances with Stern, when the two would critique women’s looks.

    The BuzzFeed list included one clip in which Trump said: “Her boob job is terrible. They look like two light posts coming out of a body.” In another clip, Trump said, “A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.”

    Stern had a huge national audience and made a name for himself with off-color questions, like this one, to Trump: “Is oral sex important to you? Man to man, and I’ve had this discussion with many men.”

    Trump responded, “No, it’s not important to me.”

    • Replies: @Njguy73

    “Trump’s past crude sex talk collides with White House bid ”
     
    Boy, you think you know a person :p
    , @Dennis Dale
    Kerry's narrative ineptitude reveals how most political speech is really about providing disingenuous rationalization for policy demanded by deep government and corporate power.
    , @gda
    Can you damn a man because of his upbringing among the hard-working construction workers of NY, who shaped the way he grew up and how he expresses himself when challenged or when engaged in "male talk"? That's skirting on racism, I think. It's certainly culturalism, which is just as bad.

    I predict all this will just make Trump more popular. Again.
    , @NickG

    Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997.
     
    To be fair to Lady Di's virtue - she only ever had 2 lovers in her life - Prince Charles and the British Army...
  17. Lot says:

    Trump is moving up in the polls, it would be great to see his foreign policy team.

    I don’t agree with this point in the article:

    You may wonder how the Communist Party can continue to rule in China, despite all the catastrophes of the Maoist years. It’s because the Chinese feel that, horrible as the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward were, at least Mao threw out the foreign devils.

    I think the Chinese are very open to low levels of immigration from high-skill countries. The reason they tolerate the communist government is that it has delivered consistant economic growth of 7-10% since the 1980’s.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    The Chinese government also showed preference to non-Han minorities. The one-child policy only applied to the Han, for instance.
  18. @Jack D
    A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    I’ve always been partial to McCartney: “Get back,get back,get back to where you once belonged…”

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    "Live and Let Die" works for me.
    , @Glossy
    Squat Loretta Sanchez thought she was a winner, then she ran against Ron Unz.
  19. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    How to prevent an ISIS terrorist attack on American soil:

    1)Implement a National Origins Immigration Policy that completely excludes all Muslims..

    2))Encourage the Muslims living on American soil to leave…

    3)A complete withdrawal of the US Military-US-White Teenager-Canon-Foder-out of the Middle East….

    Exactly why are legal immigrant Muslims being imported into America?

    Very obvious answer:so the Muslim “Americans” can enthusiastically vote Whitey into a violently persecuted racial minority on Nov 8 2016…and every 4 years thereafter…and this fact justifies implementing policy proposal number 2)…

    Two years ago right before Christmas I was having an Americano one night at The Cup in Wantagh(by the Train Station next to Mulcahy Irish club-Bar)…in walks, and sits in the table in front of me, a Young Pakistani Muslim “American” right-off- the-boat-couple..the wife very pregnant. I said to myself:Oh..so this is who will be voting me into a racial minority on Nov 8 2016….

  20. Remember when Kerry promised an “unbelievably small” airstrike against Assad in Syria? The guy’s head is in a funny place.

  21. @Jefferson
    Which big U.S city will be the first to elect a Muslim mayor? Saint Paul, Minneapolis, Oakland, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York City, Chicago, or Los Angeles?

    Not Chicago-‘less it’s a BLACK muslem.

  22. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:

    Preaching inclusion at an elite university.

    If open borders is good, then how about open admissions?

    And free tuition for undocumented students.

    Hey, I’m trans-IQ or trans-cognitive.

    I believe my IQ is 250.

    Never mind what IQ tests say. What I believe decides my real intelligence.

    And I’m 250 in IQ.

    I demand entry into mensa and all elite colleges.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Did you read the Taki column?

    1. Northeastern is NOT an elite university. It is maybe the #6 ranked university in Boston.

    2. They will take almost any foreign student who can pay the full freight.

    3. They don't offer financial aid to non-US residents. They are not loaded with $ like Harvard.
  23. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website

    steve sailer wrote:

    Nationalism actually works pretty well. Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?

    That paragraph is a great example of why the Democrats and GOP are still even in the game. Populist Nationalism would have run roughshod over Dems and GOPe if paragraphs like the above were to be exposed as the flaccid, risible nonsense. And it’s everywhere among the Dissident Right/Alt Right. That paragraph is Everything Bad about the Dissident Right/Alt Right. Not the first sentence, though. It is the second sentence that is bad. “Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?”

    So Sailer is saying that the Establishment, the Dems, the GOPe, hollywood, academia, the churches, etc, every aspect of institutional america, all of which are backing open-borders, do so only out of boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought? Ooh…oh…talk about shallowness of thought….so wrong…..so wrong….man…where do I start? To quote john kasich, jeez, oh man!

    So the entire establishment just randomly seized upon open borders out of boredom? And it became a fad? Holy moly. THAT is why the Alt-right/dissident-right is not dominant in america, and is instead a mere curiosity.

    You know, ted cruz, in the last desperate month or so of his campaign, actually spoke directly to one of the real primary reasons why the Establishment loves open borders. I think he may have actually mentioned it in the final GOP debate. Or perhaps it was during one of his stump speeches or press conferences during that general time frame. Well, the rationale he gave for open borders/mass immigration/ illegal immigration was that it depressed american wages. And when said that, I knew right away that it was the most prominent connection between immigration and wages that I had ever heard. Never before, as far as I can recall, had the connection between immigration and wages ever been given such a high profile mention.

    And drilling even deeper down, it can be said that immigration is all about corporate profits.
    It is really about Capital versus Labor, when it comes right down to it.

    But as soon as I heard cruz say that, I knew that this connection would disappear like a fart in a hurricane, like a pebble dropped into the Marianas Trench. And sure enough, it did. Now, vdare and steve sailer and ann coulter and taki and all the rest of the alt-right/dissident right should have seized upon that mention, that connection. But I knew it would disappear. And it did. Nary a peep from the alt-right about cruz making the connection between immigration and wages. The alt right SHOULD HAVE seized upon that connection and forced trump to take up this connection as well. But the alt right did nothing.

    But why?

    Because bloggers and pundits play to their audience. And they don’t want to alienate their audience. Talking about mass immigration in the context of capital versus labor would trigger the word association triggers of their audience—a capital vs labor word association would trigger the Socialism Subroutines of their readers. It all works off of word association triggers and subroutines placed in the mind via propaganda.

    Anyhoo….kerry and the rest of the establishment seized upon open borders because…oh, just a random choice…they were bored and said, hey, let’s push for open borders! Just for fun! That’s the way the establishment works….whimsical and carefree….

    • Replies: @Brian in the desert
    Have you read ANY of Sailer's columns on immigration or open borders?

    I believe Sailer is writing about KERRY'S "boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?". If he had wanted to write that about the GOP and/or democrats he would have attributed to them directly and not just a single dotty old man.

    , @Pat Hannagan
    I was with you till your second last paragraph:

    Talking about mass immigration in the context of capital versus labor would trigger the word association triggers of their audience—a capital vs labor word association would trigger the Socialism Subroutines of their readers. It all works off of word association triggers and subroutines placed in the mind via propaganda.

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What's the "Socialism Subroutines"?
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    Your autism has been duly noted, LeftistConservative.

    Make this day great again!
  24. @SPMoore8
    It sounds like Kerry is implying something like the new Lord Mayor of London: Either we let these rootless young people (e.g., 3 wives, 17 kids) come to America with open arms, or they will come with bombs to hurt us; and the best way to defeat terrorism is to remove the incentive for terrorism, namely, by welcoming them to the USA. As if that is the only incentive to terrorism.

    Again, this kind of nonsense will continue as long as the wealthy and privileged (of any color or background) don't have to interact with these other cultures in any serious way, and as long as our social safety net can sustain these huddled masses. Elites, particularly economic and political elites, always think the same way: they, themselves, will be fine; as for the rest, who cares?

    This is the kind of attitude that ultimately fosters populism and even an ugly form of it. Which is precisely why the elite "invade/invite" theology needs to be overturned, before it engenders something worse.

    Yes, the English must be very proud today.

  25. @Father O'Hara
    I've always been partial to McCartney: "Get back,get back,get back to where you once belonged..."

    “Live and Let Die” works for me.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    But the Guns 'n Roses version, please.
  26. @Jeremiahjohnbalaya
    Is it appropriate for a sitting VP, in a commencement speech, to call out by name the opposition candidate?

    Yes. American Presidents and VPs are our fellow citizens, not royalty who are above partisan politics. As such they are entitled to voice their opinions freely.

    That being said, everyone “respectable” will be calling Trump Hitler every day from now until November.

  27. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:

    Opium Borders

    https://news.vice.com/article/trio-of-middle-aged-women-caught-with-3-million-worth-of-heroin-at-chicago-airport

    Btw, what is more relevant here?

    Age or ethnicity?

    If it’s wrong to mention nationality, why mention age?

    When Germany invaded Poland: “Several divisions of young men entered Poland…”

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    It looks like the reason the Lutherans brought all those Hmong into the Northwest Territories was to ensure a clear channel for heroin ....... maybe they didn't know that the artist formerly known as Price was already dead .......
  28. @cwhatfuture
    The only border that really exists, the only one Kerry wants to keep, is that of Martha's Vineyard. No refugees settled there. No Latin American peasants pouring in there (unless brought as a nanny). Kerry does not suffer what he wishes to inflict on us and he is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.

    he [Kerry] is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.

    Are you quite sure about that?

    • Replies: @cwhatfuture
    You are right. I will rephrase that. He is too stupid to comprehend that we notice and he is too arrogant to care anyway.
  29. @Kingdong
    Imagine there’s no borders
    Like Bryan Caplan's cartoon
    Nothing to kill or die for
    Unless you're Muslim too
    Imagine all the weak hwhytes
    Cowering under the boot...
    You may say I’m a monster
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll kowtow
    And the world will be a slum

    Well done, sir!

  30. @Leftist conservative
    steve sailer wrote:

    Nationalism actually works pretty well. Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?
     
    That paragraph is a great example of why the Democrats and GOP are still even in the game. Populist Nationalism would have run roughshod over Dems and GOPe if paragraphs like the above were to be exposed as the flaccid, risible nonsense. And it's everywhere among the Dissident Right/Alt Right. That paragraph is Everything Bad about the Dissident Right/Alt Right. Not the first sentence, though. It is the second sentence that is bad. "Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?"

    So Sailer is saying that the Establishment, the Dems, the GOPe, hollywood, academia, the churches, etc, every aspect of institutional america, all of which are backing open-borders, do so only out of boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought? Ooh...oh...talk about shallowness of thought....so wrong.....so wrong....man...where do I start? To quote john kasich, jeez, oh man!

    So the entire establishment just randomly seized upon open borders out of boredom? And it became a fad? Holy moly. THAT is why the Alt-right/dissident-right is not dominant in america, and is instead a mere curiosity.

    You know, ted cruz, in the last desperate month or so of his campaign, actually spoke directly to one of the real primary reasons why the Establishment loves open borders. I think he may have actually mentioned it in the final GOP debate. Or perhaps it was during one of his stump speeches or press conferences during that general time frame. Well, the rationale he gave for open borders/mass immigration/ illegal immigration was that it depressed american wages. And when said that, I knew right away that it was the most prominent connection between immigration and wages that I had ever heard. Never before, as far as I can recall, had the connection between immigration and wages ever been given such a high profile mention.

    And drilling even deeper down, it can be said that immigration is all about corporate profits.
    It is really about Capital versus Labor, when it comes right down to it.

    But as soon as I heard cruz say that, I knew that this connection would disappear like a fart in a hurricane, like a pebble dropped into the Marianas Trench. And sure enough, it did. Now, vdare and steve sailer and ann coulter and taki and all the rest of the alt-right/dissident right should have seized upon that mention, that connection. But I knew it would disappear. And it did. Nary a peep from the alt-right about cruz making the connection between immigration and wages. The alt right SHOULD HAVE seized upon that connection and forced trump to take up this connection as well. But the alt right did nothing.

    But why?

    Because bloggers and pundits play to their audience. And they don't want to alienate their audience. Talking about mass immigration in the context of capital versus labor would trigger the word association triggers of their audience---a capital vs labor word association would trigger the Socialism Subroutines of their readers. It all works off of word association triggers and subroutines placed in the mind via propaganda.

    Anyhoo....kerry and the rest of the establishment seized upon open borders because...oh, just a random choice...they were bored and said, hey, let's push for open borders! Just for fun! That's the way the establishment works....whimsical and carefree....

    Have you read ANY of Sailer’s columns on immigration or open borders?

    I believe Sailer is writing about KERRY’S “boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?”. If he had wanted to write that about the GOP and/or democrats he would have attributed to them directly and not just a single dotty old man.

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    Have you read ANY of Sailer’s columns on immigration or open borders?
     
    no, this is the first one.

    I believe Sailer is writing about KERRY’S “boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?”.
     
    oh, jeez, I misunderstood. How kind of you to point out my error.

    If he had wanted to write that about the GOP and/or democrats he would have attributed to them directly and not just a single dotty old man.
     
    very trenchant remark by you...did you mind if I save it for posterity on google drive?
  31. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:

    From Elysium, the world looks like one whole planet.

    On ground, things work different.

    If open borders is good horizontally, then let’s have open ladders(or stairs) vertically that allow the have-nots and have-lesses to have physical access to the world of big Haves.
    (Obama is doing this via section 8, but he’s targeting white middle class while white fancy liberal class in big cities get to live in ever whitening neighborhoods.)

    Wherever Kerry is dining next, we have the right to be there.

    And we should have free entry to any luxury high-rise condos and penthouses.
    Where does Jeff Bozos live? I want to enter his elysium.

    Hey Elysies, here I come.

  32. @Anonym
    John Kerry is 72. I guess Donald Trump is 69, but the difference in being alive from the neck up between the two is incredible. Kerry is now a doddering old man. He should be spending his time on the golf course and puttering around in the garden. Any regaling of how he thinks the world works should best be confined to the dining table during the holidays. Why is he still in public office?

    Wanting to render STEM (and all other) jobs worthless through open borders... just what college grads want to hear. I agree with a Takimag commenter that you can sense the fear of Trump in Kerry's address. He is so out of touch. DJT is going to win in a landslide if this is the best the Democrats can offer.

    Hey, did you know John Kerry served in Vietnam?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    Lol... there are some WW2 vets still alive. Let's raid the nursing homes and make one of them secretary of state!
    , @HateCuisine
    ...Yes, and he still has the hat.
  33. @Kingdong
    Imagine there’s no borders
    Like Bryan Caplan's cartoon
    Nothing to kill or die for
    Unless you're Muslim too
    Imagine all the weak hwhytes
    Cowering under the boot...
    You may say I’m a monster
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll kowtow
    And the world will be a slum

    BRILLIANT! We need more of your poetic contributions here.

  34. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    "Live and Let Die" works for me.

    But the Guns ‘n Roses version, please.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Yowza!
    , @Brutusale
    Slash or Buckethead on guitar?
  35. @Leftist conservative
    steve sailer wrote:

    Nationalism actually works pretty well. Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?
     
    That paragraph is a great example of why the Democrats and GOP are still even in the game. Populist Nationalism would have run roughshod over Dems and GOPe if paragraphs like the above were to be exposed as the flaccid, risible nonsense. And it's everywhere among the Dissident Right/Alt Right. That paragraph is Everything Bad about the Dissident Right/Alt Right. Not the first sentence, though. It is the second sentence that is bad. "Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?"

    So Sailer is saying that the Establishment, the Dems, the GOPe, hollywood, academia, the churches, etc, every aspect of institutional america, all of which are backing open-borders, do so only out of boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought? Ooh...oh...talk about shallowness of thought....so wrong.....so wrong....man...where do I start? To quote john kasich, jeez, oh man!

    So the entire establishment just randomly seized upon open borders out of boredom? And it became a fad? Holy moly. THAT is why the Alt-right/dissident-right is not dominant in america, and is instead a mere curiosity.

    You know, ted cruz, in the last desperate month or so of his campaign, actually spoke directly to one of the real primary reasons why the Establishment loves open borders. I think he may have actually mentioned it in the final GOP debate. Or perhaps it was during one of his stump speeches or press conferences during that general time frame. Well, the rationale he gave for open borders/mass immigration/ illegal immigration was that it depressed american wages. And when said that, I knew right away that it was the most prominent connection between immigration and wages that I had ever heard. Never before, as far as I can recall, had the connection between immigration and wages ever been given such a high profile mention.

    And drilling even deeper down, it can be said that immigration is all about corporate profits.
    It is really about Capital versus Labor, when it comes right down to it.

    But as soon as I heard cruz say that, I knew that this connection would disappear like a fart in a hurricane, like a pebble dropped into the Marianas Trench. And sure enough, it did. Now, vdare and steve sailer and ann coulter and taki and all the rest of the alt-right/dissident right should have seized upon that mention, that connection. But I knew it would disappear. And it did. Nary a peep from the alt-right about cruz making the connection between immigration and wages. The alt right SHOULD HAVE seized upon that connection and forced trump to take up this connection as well. But the alt right did nothing.

    But why?

    Because bloggers and pundits play to their audience. And they don't want to alienate their audience. Talking about mass immigration in the context of capital versus labor would trigger the word association triggers of their audience---a capital vs labor word association would trigger the Socialism Subroutines of their readers. It all works off of word association triggers and subroutines placed in the mind via propaganda.

    Anyhoo....kerry and the rest of the establishment seized upon open borders because...oh, just a random choice...they were bored and said, hey, let's push for open borders! Just for fun! That's the way the establishment works....whimsical and carefree....

    I was with you till your second last paragraph:

    Talking about mass immigration in the context of capital versus labor would trigger the word association triggers of their audience—a capital vs labor word association would trigger the Socialism Subroutines of their readers. It all works off of word association triggers and subroutines placed in the mind via propaganda.

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

  36. @Priss Factor
    Opium Borders

    https://news.vice.com/article/trio-of-middle-aged-women-caught-with-3-million-worth-of-heroin-at-chicago-airport

    Btw, what is more relevant here?

    Age or ethnicity?

    If it's wrong to mention nationality, why mention age?

    When Germany invaded Poland: "Several divisions of young men entered Poland..."

    It looks like the reason the Lutherans brought all those Hmong into the Northwest Territories was to ensure a clear channel for heroin ……. maybe they didn’t know that the artist formerly known as Price was already dead …….

  37. Add this to the list of leftist nostrums that are supposed to make us safer but actually increase the chance of conflict. Sort of like the Obama view that a multipolar world is desirable and just, when in reality it drastically increases the odds of war and disorder in the areas where strong powers decide to jockey for strategic position.

    I actually voted for Kerry because I felt Bush was totally mishandling the Iraq war (which I was against but felt once we were in, might as well do whatever had to be done to effect the outcome we wanted) and his lack of fiscal responsibility. Immediately afterwards I felt grateful he lost.

  38. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Brian in the desert
    Have you read ANY of Sailer's columns on immigration or open borders?

    I believe Sailer is writing about KERRY'S "boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?". If he had wanted to write that about the GOP and/or democrats he would have attributed to them directly and not just a single dotty old man.

    Have you read ANY of Sailer’s columns on immigration or open borders?

    no, this is the first one.

    I believe Sailer is writing about KERRY’S “boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?”.

    oh, jeez, I misunderstood. How kind of you to point out my error.

    If he had wanted to write that about the GOP and/or democrats he would have attributed to them directly and not just a single dotty old man.

    very trenchant remark by you…did you mind if I save it for posterity on google drive?

  39. @Jack D

    he [Kerry] is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.
     
    Are you quite sure about that?

    You are right. I will rephrase that. He is too stupid to comprehend that we notice and he is too arrogant to care anyway.

  40. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Pat Hannagan
    I was with you till your second last paragraph:

    Talking about mass immigration in the context of capital versus labor would trigger the word association triggers of their audience—a capital vs labor word association would trigger the Socialism Subroutines of their readers. It all works off of word association triggers and subroutines placed in the mind via propaganda.

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What's the "Socialism Subroutines"?

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?

    well, for the most part, the readers on this site –and simlar sites– have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What’s weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly–they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don’t want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the ‘liberal’ media doesn’t want to touch that because it is the truth.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    Save us Unz-i Won Kenobi, you're our only hope!
    , @Pat Hannagan
    That's very interesting.

    I stayed for a couple of weeks at the home of a Vietnam vet in America many years ago and he said to me that Australians are socialists, that even our conservative party was socialist by American standards. What's more he pretty much equated socialism with Communism. At his family gatherings I went to this topic came up pretty often, pretty much like I was some sort of bizarre representative of the USSR. So, yeah, ever since then I've been aware that Yanks really do have this notion of socialism as next to Satan, as you put it.

    But I don't reckon that's why Sailer puts these nation wrecking policies down as merely stemming from "boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought". I think it has more to being civil. That's another thing that was startling about Yanks, their astounding civility. The White Yanks were so polite and civil that after a while it felt like it was a perverse form of relentless evil masquerading as niceness, but they were genuine!

    It would be confrontingly discourteous to point the finger at a person or peoples and accuse them of a deliberate policy of nation wrecking. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" would be the polite way of approaching these topics for the civil American.

    But, even if one does obviously know that Hanlon's razor can't be right there is also the matter of once you start pointing the bone and do blame certain people or peoples for deliberately setting about to wreck one's nation, then you're now in the territory of manifesto writing. The blog would no longer be blogging, or noticing, but rather a political platform, sides would be taken, people lost etc. All reasonable enough.

    Personally, I am very much into manifestos and intend to spend my retirement years writing several all firmly ensconced in a some hard to find bush bunker. Probably send out letter nail bombs too to all the Father Mulcahys of this world who slighted me in decades past, whose names I have carefully written down and stored for retribution. But, that's another story for a time far, far away...

    (PS. Sorry to talk about you behind your back, Steve, as if you've left the room for a minute.)

    , @AndrewR
    Well phrading it in 19th century Marxist terms probably isn't helpful.

    I prefer "multinational corporations and plutocrats vs working classes"
    , @SFG
    Yeah, basically. Importing more immigrants creates a larger reserve army of the unemployed. It's one of those damned truths nobody can accept both halves of.
    , @27 year old
    24aheaddotcom, is that you?
    , @ben tillman

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism.
     
    That's poorly said. The establishment supports socialism (centralization of wealth in the hands of the state under the false pretense of distributing wealth fairly), and of course educated and powerless people are going to dislike this.

    As for Robert-Owen-style socialism, or class cooperation, or voluntary yet essentially obligatory sharing of wealth, no one ever talks about it. Well, I guess I do, and Bowery's citizen's dividend funded by property taxes is in a similar vein, and D.S. Wilson and Matt Ridley and Christopher Boehm venture into that territory.

    But why don't you start by defining your terms. What do you mean by "socialism"?

    , @Daniel Williams

    ... for the most part, the readers on this site –and simlar sites– have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.
     
    Thank goodness you're here, then. We duds have needed a visionary to lead us for far too long—the battle was almost lost without you!

    But don't bash Trump too much. I see him as sort of a John the Baptist type, prefiguring your arrival. Or maybe he's a hype man, pumping up the crowd for when you reveal the real truth about immigration and wages—the truth only Ted Cruz dared speak.

    I mean, unless you count all those Rubenstein and Borjas articles Pete Brimelow's been publishing for years...
  41. @Anonymous
    "Trump's past crude sex talk collides with White House bid "

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/from-playboy-to-president-trumps-past-behavior-collides-with-his-white-house-bid/2016/05/09/46bed6f8-12fe-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

    “You could’ve gotten her, right?” Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997. “You could’ve nailed her.”

    “I think I could have,” Trump said.

    How about singer Mariah Carey? “Would you bang her?” Stern asked. Trump replied, “I would do it without hesitation.”

    Trump’s crude talk on-air with Stern between 1990 and 2005 was part of an image the businessman cultivated as a Manhattan playboy who had so many women that he barely had time to sleep. He was often seen at trendy nightclubs with different women, appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, wrote in his books about all the women chasing him and publicly boasted about his sex life.

    ...

    When asked by Playboy magazine in 2004 about Viagra, Trump boasted: “I just have never needed it.” He went on to say that what he really needed was an “anti-Viagra, something with the opposite effect.”

    “I’m not bragging,” he bragged. “I’m just lucky.”

    ...

    Some of Trump’s most raw language came during his appearances with Stern, when the two would critique women’s looks.

    The BuzzFeed list included one clip in which Trump said: “Her boob job is terrible. They look like two light posts coming out of a body.” In another clip, Trump said, “A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.”

    Stern had a huge national audience and made a name for himself with off-color questions, like this one, to Trump: “Is oral sex important to you? Man to man, and I’ve had this discussion with many men.”

    Trump responded, “No, it’s not important to me.”
     

    “Trump’s past crude sex talk collides with White House bid ”

    Boy, you think you know a person :p

  42. @Priss Factor
    Preaching inclusion at an elite university.

    If open borders is good, then how about open admissions?

    And free tuition for undocumented students.

    Hey, I'm trans-IQ or trans-cognitive.

    I believe my IQ is 250.

    Never mind what IQ tests say. What I believe decides my real intelligence.

    And I'm 250 in IQ.

    I demand entry into mensa and all elite colleges.

    Did you read the Taki column?

    1. Northeastern is NOT an elite university. It is maybe the #6 ranked university in Boston.

    2. They will take almost any foreign student who can pay the full freight.

    3. They don’t offer financial aid to non-US residents. They are not loaded with $ like Harvard.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    "Northeastern is NOT an elite university. It is maybe the #6 ranked university in Boston."

    It is an elite university.
    It's not super-elite, but it has pretty high ranking.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University#Admissions

    "For the class enrolling fall 2013, Forbes placed Northeastern 35th in "The Top 100 Colleges Ranked By SAT Scores""

    35 is pretty good.
  43. Center is more accurate than right. But Trump is neither. Trump is a populist.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Trump is popular but how much of a populist is he? It's interesting how he makes very few, if any, gestures to suggest he's just a man of simple tastes and homespun wisdom. He even chatted about the trouble he has buying good hairspray just after trying on a coal miner's helmet in front of a monster rally in West Virginia last week.

    Steve's right that Trump's a centrist. He's a radical centrist like Putin. The two also have in common an army of supporters who clearly love watching them live large and in charge:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ecEb4tEPic
    , @SteveRogers42
    "Centrist" in the sense of what are -- or should be -- non-controversial positions grounded in common sense. If anyone had run for Prez in 1976 with his major policy positions being 1) Secure our Southern border against a wave of illegal aliens, 2) Support our manufacturing base in order to maximize blue-collar employment, and 3) Don't provoke a shooting war with Russia -- people would have wondered exactly what point he was trying to make. "Sure, pal, and don't forget that we need to breathe air and drink water, too. What's your position on eating food?" Things that would have seemed axiomatic just a short time ago are now seen as too radical to be mentioned in polite society. This is why a Centrist can now be seen as a radical Nationalist/Populist in 2016.
  44. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    @Kingdong
    Imagine there’s no borders
    Like Bryan Caplan's cartoon
    Nothing to kill or die for
    Unless you're Muslim too
    Imagine all the weak hwhytes
    Cowering under the boot...
    You may say I’m a monster
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll kowtow
    And the world will be a slum

    “Trump” – A Van Halen “Jump” Parody for the 2016 Campaign Season

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    That is actually very well done. First a good riff on "Imagine", good reference to Shakespeare's Sonnets, and now this ...... I think the creative juices at least are on the right side ......
  45. @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

    Save us Unz-i Won Kenobi, you’re our only hope!

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative
    My child, you have come to me, my son. For who now is your father if it is not me? I am the well spring, from which you flow. When I am gone, you will have never been. What would your world be, without me? My son.
  46. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    @Jack D
    Did you read the Taki column?

    1. Northeastern is NOT an elite university. It is maybe the #6 ranked university in Boston.

    2. They will take almost any foreign student who can pay the full freight.

    3. They don't offer financial aid to non-US residents. They are not loaded with $ like Harvard.

    “Northeastern is NOT an elite university. It is maybe the #6 ranked university in Boston.”

    It is an elite university.
    It’s not super-elite, but it has pretty high ranking.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University#Admissions

    “For the class enrolling fall 2013, Forbes placed Northeastern 35th in “The Top 100 Colleges Ranked By SAT Scores””

    35 is pretty good.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    No one looks at the Forbes rankings. In the US News rankings, which are the only ones anyone cares about, they are #47. Elite is a vague term but usually when you think "elite university in Boston", Northeastern is not what comes to mind. It's original name, The Evening Institute for Younger Men, located at the Huntington Avenue YMCA, gives you a clue about how "elite" it is.
    , @Brutusale
    Northeastern would be a respected private institution in most locales, but in Boston it's a safety school. Its big selling point is its robust and successful co-op program.
  47. @RadicalCenter
    But the Guns 'n Roses version, please.

    Yowza!

  48. Good Lord:

    “We know that there are millions of young people across the globe with no jobs, no opportunity, but they have smartphones in their hands.”

    Yeah, just like in the US. Is it uncouth to talk about the sky high unemployment stats for OUR young people?

    “And yet the specter of isolationism once again hovers over our nation.”

    I know, right. Why is that? We’ve only been at war for the past 15 years. And you know, a Benghazi here and there. And we should feel good about this because we are doing the righteous thing, somehow. So there you misanthropic, bigoted rubes! Go Harvard!

    And people ACT like they don’t understand Trump voters.

    Interesting times ahead.

  49. @Priss Factor
    "Trump" - A Van Halen "Jump" Parody for the 2016 Campaign Season

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-VfW9m7UM

    That is actually very well done. First a good riff on “Imagine”, good reference to Shakespeare’s Sonnets, and now this …… I think the creative juices at least are on the right side ……

  50. @Immigrant from former USSR
    Attention Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz:
    At 5:00 PM E.T. this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com .
    Sure, many of them are 3 to 10 by the same commentator, but some are by one person.
    It is pretty rare that articles at Unz Review collect that many comments.

    Article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO on 2016_05_09 this:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435138/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conservatives-never-trump-2016
    That article collected 2671 comments, as of now.

    Isn't it a sign, how many people have read it there ?

    I will be happy to promote Unz Review. Tell me, how to do that.

    It’s impossible to read that many comments so that’s flaw rather than a selling point of those other sites. If anything I’d love to see comments sections somehow evolve into the political equivalent of Github. I have no clue how that could be done but someone needs to get on that right away. I’m just a Steve Jobs type of ideas man on this one.

  51. This should be an add for Trump:

    Middle class shrinking in major cities, study finds

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/business/business-breaking/middle-class-shrinking-in-major-cities-study-finds/

    WASHINGTON » In cities across America, the middle class is hollowing out.

    A widening wealth gap is moving more households into either higher- or lower-income groups in major metro areas, with fewer remaining in the middle, according to a report released today by the Pew Research Center.

    In nearly one-quarter of metro areas, middle-class adults no longer make up a majority, the Pew analysis found. That’s up from fewer than 10 percent of metro areas in 2000.

    • Replies: @anon
    That is precisely what open borders does - turns a middle class economy into a plantation economy.
  52. It’s very interesting how the two new political poles are establishing themselves. The sovereignists, patriots and those raised under Marxism-Leninism versus the globalists, neo-liberals and crypto-Trotskyites. Putin saw this from his perspective and apparently said so in a private meeting with the now ex-Prime Minister of Canada:

    Terry Glavin: The truth about the Harper ‘Trotskyites’
    Terry Glavin, Special to National Post | September 14, 2012

    “According to officials in the room with the two men,” Akin reports, “Putin said Harper and other Western leaders are acting like ‘Trotskyites’ – that was Putin’s line — for exporting revolution and promoting instability.”

    http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/terry-glavin-the-truth-about-the-harper-trotskyites

    • Replies: @Glossy
    Yes, the neocons are Trotskyists and their hatred of the post-WWII USSR was a continuation of their conflict with Stalin. Libertardianism is rebranded Communism, while Cold War Soviet Communism and current Chinese Communism are complete rejections of the original Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyist model. Of course all politics is, at bottom, ethnic and tribal, but it's still useful to keep track of the overt, ideological terminology.

    The Cold Warrior neocon-libertardians were the true heirs of original Marxism. Post-Soviet privatisation was another collectivization and color revolutions are worldwide revolution. I don't know if Putin understands ALL of that, but the comment you quoted and other things I've read imply that he understands a lot of it.
    , @andy russia
    I "get" it when people identify neo-cons and globalists with Trotskyites, but at the same time I think it should be kept in mind that it's not Communism they try to export but rather T**P and such stuff, i.e. raw corporate (and by extension, American) power. That and gay rights. They're interested in Trotskyism, Gramscianism etc only as to the mechanics of "exporting a revolution"
  53. @Jefferson
    Which big U.S city will be the first to elect a Muslim mayor? Saint Paul, Minneapolis, Oakland, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York City, Chicago, or Los Angeles?

    I’m not sure if it still counts as a big city on its own anymore, but I would imagine it would probably be Detroit. In North America as a whole, the first million plus city to elect a Muslim mayor is Calgary, Alberta.

  54. @dr kill
    Hey, did you know John Kerry served in Vietnam?

    Lol… there are some WW2 vets still alive. Let’s raid the nursing homes and make one of them secretary of state!

  55. @cwhatfuture
    The only border that really exists, the only one Kerry wants to keep, is that of Martha's Vineyard. No refugees settled there. No Latin American peasants pouring in there (unless brought as a nanny). Kerry does not suffer what he wishes to inflict on us and he is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.

    The only border that really exists, the only one Kerry wants to keep, is that of Martha’s Vineyard. No refugees settled there. No Latin American peasants pouring in there (unless brought as a nanny). Kerry does not suffer what he wishes to inflict on us and he is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.How migration transformed Martha’s Vineyard

    Martha’s Vineyard is full of Brazilians these days.
    “An estimated 3,000 Brazilians live on Martha’s Vineyard. Many work illegally; others, such as Tarcisio de Oliveira (right), who owns a landscaping company, are legal….”

  56. @Anonymous
    Except for "Antarctica, the West Bank and the Golan Heights"?

    Not even close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

    largest ongoing territorial disputes in terms of land mass :
    1. chinese occupation of tibet
    2. moroccan occupation of western sahara
    3. indonesian occupation of papua

    highest casualty count in an ongoing territorial dispute:
    1. sudanese occupation of darfur
    2.chinese occupation of tibet
    3.indonesian occupation of papua.

  57. @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

    That’s very interesting.

    I stayed for a couple of weeks at the home of a Vietnam vet in America many years ago and he said to me that Australians are socialists, that even our conservative party was socialist by American standards. What’s more he pretty much equated socialism with Communism. At his family gatherings I went to this topic came up pretty often, pretty much like I was some sort of bizarre representative of the USSR. So, yeah, ever since then I’ve been aware that Yanks really do have this notion of socialism as next to Satan, as you put it.

    But I don’t reckon that’s why Sailer puts these nation wrecking policies down as merely stemming from “boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought”. I think it has more to being civil. That’s another thing that was startling about Yanks, their astounding civility. The White Yanks were so polite and civil that after a while it felt like it was a perverse form of relentless evil masquerading as niceness, but they were genuine!

    It would be confrontingly discourteous to point the finger at a person or peoples and accuse them of a deliberate policy of nation wrecking. “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity” would be the polite way of approaching these topics for the civil American.

    But, even if one does obviously know that Hanlon’s razor can’t be right there is also the matter of once you start pointing the bone and do blame certain people or peoples for deliberately setting about to wreck one’s nation, then you’re now in the territory of manifesto writing. The blog would no longer be blogging, or noticing, but rather a political platform, sides would be taken, people lost etc. All reasonable enough.

    Personally, I am very much into manifestos and intend to spend my retirement years writing several all firmly ensconced in a some hard to find bush bunker. Probably send out letter nail bombs too to all the Father Mulcahys of this world who slighted me in decades past, whose names I have carefully written down and stored for retribution. But, that’s another story for a time far, far away…

    (PS. Sorry to talk about you behind your back, Steve, as if you’ve left the room for a minute.)

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative
    Fine, whatever, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm crazy, but don't you find it weird that this truth about the immigration-wages-corporate profit connection has started to leak out and this realization has started to grow on the alt-right internet community, for years now, that mass immigration is all about capitalism and low wages (and more than just that--the capital vs labor fundamental conflict is at the bottom of it)....

    but this immigration-economics connection is only discussed from time to time...but it's there...the idea is out there...and suddenly, during a debate, the last gop debate this spring, as I recall, cruz, the 2nd place candidate, obviously desperate, lays it all out there---BOOM--in one sentence---BOOM: immigration is depressing wages...almost his exact words...and trump has studiously avoided making this connection between wages and immigration his entire campaign...

    and NOBODY talks about what cruz said...not the media, not the pundits....not the alt right bloggers....not a peep...what the freak!?? I have been following this issue for DECADES...and to my knowledge what cruz said during that last debate, that was the most high level and most visible connection between wages and immigration since i have been following the issue...

    And then you have sailer here...been writing for vdare for years...vdare, the most prominent alt right anti-immigration, and a site that has for years --from time to time--boldly laid out this immigration-wages connection, also says nothing about what cruz said...sailer says nothing...and then this column where he ties the establishment love of open borders to....BOREDOM??!! What the freak??! It is so obviously about economics...not boredom! what the freak!?

    Maybe I am wrong...maybe i am just grasping at straws here...but what is the explanation for what is going on??

    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "there is also the matter of once you start pointing the bone and do blame certain people or peoples for deliberately setting about to wreck one’s nation, then you’re now in the territory of manifesto writing. The blog would no longer be blogging, or noticing, but rather a political platform, sides would be taken, people lost etc."

    Mr. Theresa Heinz-Kerry is not deliberately wrecking the US -- he is increasing Democratic Party power by importing a new electorate, one that takes gibsmedats without compunction; in fact they take the gibs with PRIDE, because racism.

    And folks like Mr. Theresa Heinz-Kerry don't believe HIS part of the former USA will be wrecked at all -- he and his will live in luxe as they do now, while all those badwhites will get Diversity good, hard, and fast, which they'll deserve because racism/sexism/homophobia [sic] and, of course, the biggest secular sin of all: voting Republican (ick!!!).

    That is the missing part of LeftistConservative's (Make Unz Great Again) analysis -- the naked, raw desire for power that consumes the corrupt hearts and minds of dudes like Mr. Theresa Heinz-Kerry.
  58. @Priss Factor
    "Northeastern is NOT an elite university. It is maybe the #6 ranked university in Boston."

    It is an elite university.
    It's not super-elite, but it has pretty high ranking.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University#Admissions

    "For the class enrolling fall 2013, Forbes placed Northeastern 35th in "The Top 100 Colleges Ranked By SAT Scores""

    35 is pretty good.

    No one looks at the Forbes rankings. In the US News rankings, which are the only ones anyone cares about, they are #47. Elite is a vague term but usually when you think “elite university in Boston”, Northeastern is not what comes to mind. It’s original name, The Evening Institute for Younger Men, located at the Huntington Avenue YMCA, gives you a clue about how “elite” it is.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    "Elite is a vague term but usually when you think “elite university in Boston”, Northeastern is not what comes to mind. "

    It is geo-elite, or in the elite area, and that makes it elite by association.

    Also, it would be elite in most states of the US. But in Boston with so many top schools, it's bound to be overshadowed by others.

    Besides, I'm trans-cognitive, so if I say Northeastern's ranking just went from 47 to 5, it must be so. You don't want to disagree with me cuz that will make you transcognophobic.

    Btw, what's with the mega endowment at Harvard? I mean how can the university spend all that dough? I can understand how a lot of money might be spent on science labs and stuff, but most areas of study don't need that much money. They are just about professors and paper,and paper aint expensive.

    Maybe Sanders got it all wrong. He should try to force rich universities to share their dough with poor universities.

  59. @Anonymous
    Except for "Antarctica, the West Bank and the Golan Heights"?

    Not even close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

    Steve didn’t say no territorial disputes.

    West Bank and Golan Heights are different from say Tibet or Kashmir in that Israel is not actually claiming–yet–that they are part of Israel.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Israel claims the Golan Heights but doesn't claim the West Bank nor the Gaza Strip, right?

    There are a lot of hunks of land that are claimed by more than one state, such as parts of Kashmir and other high altitude parts of Himalayas that are disputed among India, Pakistan, China and perhaps some of the smaller local countries.

    But the West Bank is pretty weird in that the U.S. doesn't want any state to claim it at present, even though a few million people live there.

    I think I have that right ...
  60. @Anonym
    John Kerry is 72. I guess Donald Trump is 69, but the difference in being alive from the neck up between the two is incredible. Kerry is now a doddering old man. He should be spending his time on the golf course and puttering around in the garden. Any regaling of how he thinks the world works should best be confined to the dining table during the holidays. Why is he still in public office?

    Wanting to render STEM (and all other) jobs worthless through open borders... just what college grads want to hear. I agree with a Takimag commenter that you can sense the fear of Trump in Kerry's address. He is so out of touch. DJT is going to win in a landslide if this is the best the Democrats can offer.

    “John Kerry is 72. I guess Donald Trump is 69, but the difference in being alive from the neck up between the two is incredible. Kerry is now a doddering old man.”

    William Shatner has way more energy than than John Kerry and William is 85 years old.

  61. @Anonymous
    "Trump's past crude sex talk collides with White House bid "

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/from-playboy-to-president-trumps-past-behavior-collides-with-his-white-house-bid/2016/05/09/46bed6f8-12fe-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

    “You could’ve gotten her, right?” Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997. “You could’ve nailed her.”

    “I think I could have,” Trump said.

    How about singer Mariah Carey? “Would you bang her?” Stern asked. Trump replied, “I would do it without hesitation.”

    Trump’s crude talk on-air with Stern between 1990 and 2005 was part of an image the businessman cultivated as a Manhattan playboy who had so many women that he barely had time to sleep. He was often seen at trendy nightclubs with different women, appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, wrote in his books about all the women chasing him and publicly boasted about his sex life.

    ...

    When asked by Playboy magazine in 2004 about Viagra, Trump boasted: “I just have never needed it.” He went on to say that what he really needed was an “anti-Viagra, something with the opposite effect.”

    “I’m not bragging,” he bragged. “I’m just lucky.”

    ...

    Some of Trump’s most raw language came during his appearances with Stern, when the two would critique women’s looks.

    The BuzzFeed list included one clip in which Trump said: “Her boob job is terrible. They look like two light posts coming out of a body.” In another clip, Trump said, “A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.”

    Stern had a huge national audience and made a name for himself with off-color questions, like this one, to Trump: “Is oral sex important to you? Man to man, and I’ve had this discussion with many men.”

    Trump responded, “No, it’s not important to me.”
     

    Kerry’s narrative ineptitude reveals how most political speech is really about providing disingenuous rationalization for policy demanded by deep government and corporate power.

  62. @Jack D
    A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Very well done Jack.

    Yeah, “Imagine” is indeed the cloying, annoying anthem of the utopian idiots. It induces in any normal person at least a tinge of desire to smack Lennon’s oh so precious face–but he’s dead.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    It's more nihilist than utopian.
    , @Anonym
    Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.
  63. Did Kerry ever find those horrid ‘Nam medals he threw away?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Kerry threw some *other* guy's medals away and kept his own.

    That's pretty much all you need to know about the guy.
  64. @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

    Well phrading it in 19th century Marxist terms probably isn’t helpful.

    I prefer “multinational corporations and plutocrats vs working classes”

  65. Glossy says: • Website

    Somewhat OT: the most obvious Cockney rhyming slang word for the new mayor of London is Genghis. A second round of punning (common in the rhyming slang) produces “dinghies” (you know, small boats), which turns out to be a Hindi/Urdu word, which makes it all the more appropriate.

  66. OT:

    whites are twice as likely as blacks to stay at high income levels.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-11/white-americans-retain-big-spender-status-while-blacks-slip-fed-finds

    The study

    http://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2016/05/household-consumption-mobility-over-the-life-cycle.html#.VzPfYMg8KnO

    “Observable do not account for differences.”

    The star that burns twice as bright lasts half as long. . . Could it be that the propensity to save is different between races?

  67. @AnotherDad
    Steve didn't say no territorial disputes.

    West Bank and Golan Heights are different from say Tibet or Kashmir in that Israel is not actually claiming--yet--that they are part of Israel.

    Israel claims the Golan Heights but doesn’t claim the West Bank nor the Gaza Strip, right?

    There are a lot of hunks of land that are claimed by more than one state, such as parts of Kashmir and other high altitude parts of Himalayas that are disputed among India, Pakistan, China and perhaps some of the smaller local countries.

    But the West Bank is pretty weird in that the U.S. doesn’t want any state to claim it at present, even though a few million people live there.

    I think I have that right …

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    There is a chunk of unpopulated land between Egypt and Sudan that is claimed by neither country. It is called Bir Tawil.
    , @Cwhatfuture
    The West Bank has not been formally annexed by Israel, while the Golan has. So Israeli civil law does not apply in the West Bank but it does apply on the Golan, and any resident of the Golan is entitled to Israeli citizenship. East Jerusalem, which the US considers part of the West Bank, has been annexed by Israel and its primarily Palestinian population is entitled to Israeli citizenship.
    , @Gabriel M
    There's nothing weird about it when you consider the basic contextual facts.

    1) Until 1967 the West Bank was administered by Jordan, which is therefore the state that, according to international law, has prior claim.
    2) Jordan foreswares any such claim, but states that the West Bank belongs to the state of Palestine, which doesn't exist and has never existed.
    3) Until 1967 Palestinian nationalist movements foreswore any claim to the West Bank and stated that their future state would exist within the 1948 borders of Israel.
    4) Palestinian nationalists have stated repeatedly that their post 1967 claim to the West Bank is a ruse to destroy Israel. (documentation required if necessary).

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel, but supports the creation of a country that has no purpose and has never had any purpose other than to destroy Israel.

    But the point isn't to understand, the point is to play dumb and give the wink so that if you ever make it back into the mainstream you can pretend that all the Holocaust deniers you've been letting play on your blog for the last decade had nothing to do with you guv.

  68. By the way, I got the idea of Trump as the “Alt-Center” candidate from a commenter here a week or two ago, but I couldn’t find the old comment to link to it.

    Well, you are the alt-center of political (and much other) commentary. You’re only “right” in the sense that those who’d like to ignore/no-platform you tend to self-identify as left.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I'd argue he's one of the few moderate alt-righters--most of his ideas are actually practicable under a slightly different political arrangement.
  69. @AnotherDad
    Very well done Jack.

    Yeah, "Imagine" is indeed the cloying, annoying anthem of the utopian idiots. It induces in any normal person at least a tinge of desire to smack Lennon's oh so precious face--but he's dead.

    It’s more nihilist than utopian.

  70. @Father O'Hara
    I've always been partial to McCartney: "Get back,get back,get back to where you once belonged..."

    Squat Loretta Sanchez thought she was a winner, then she ran against Ron Unz.

  71. Let’s not put all the blame on Kerry! Who’s writing his speeches?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Let’s not put all the blame on Kerry! Who’s writing his speeches?

    More importantly, who's supervising his meds?
  72. It’s only a matter of time before they replace the Star-Spangled Banner with John Lennon’s “Imagine” or one of those really corny celebrity renditions of “We are the World.”

  73. @Jefferson
    Which big U.S city will be the first to elect a Muslim mayor? Saint Paul, Minneapolis, Oakland, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York City, Chicago, or Los Angeles?

    Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity."

    Hussein Obama is certainly no Christian. He only attended a Christian church in Chicago to help advance his political career, not because he likes to read the bible on a regular basis and has accepted Jesus Christ as his lord & savior.
    , @SFG
    A Muslim mayor in NYC? They couldn't even get their intifada curriculum going.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalil_Gibran_International_Academy

    And yes, it's exactly for the reason y'all would think.

    , @Mark F.
    Is that why he has droned killed so many innocent Muslims?
  74. @Cracker
    Did Kerry ever find those horrid 'Nam medals he threw away?

    Kerry threw some *other* guy’s medals away and kept his own.

    That’s pretty much all you need to know about the guy.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Kerry threw some *other* guy’s medals away and kept his own.

    That’s pretty much all you need to know about the guy.
     
    That, and he windsurfs.
  75. And many of you were in elementary school when you learned the toughest lesson of all on 9/11. There are no walls big enough to stop people from anywhere, tens of thousand miles away, who are determined to take their own lives while they target others.

    Astounding mendacity. They entered the country on airplanes. The security apparatus in place at the time made it trivially easy to stop anyone unwanted from entering the country in that manner. All the government had to do was NOT GIVE THEM INVITATIONS, aka visas.

  76. @AnotherDad
    Very well done Jack.

    Yeah, "Imagine" is indeed the cloying, annoying anthem of the utopian idiots. It induces in any normal person at least a tinge of desire to smack Lennon's oh so precious face--but he's dead.

    Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.
     
    That explains why John Derbyshire and Gavin McInnes have been fighting so hard—and for so long!—for open borders.
    , @Jefferson
    "Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism."

    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.
  77. @Kingdong
    Imagine there’s no borders
    Like Bryan Caplan's cartoon
    Nothing to kill or die for
    Unless you're Muslim too
    Imagine all the weak hwhytes
    Cowering under the boot...
    You may say I’m a monster
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll kowtow
    And the world will be a slum

    If you’re doing the Jared Taylor thing, I believe the favored variant spelling is ‘huWhite’.

    Nice job.

  78. @Desiderius

    By the way, I got the idea of Trump as the “Alt-Center” candidate from a commenter here a week or two ago, but I couldn’t find the old comment to link to it.
     
    Well, you are the alt-center of political (and much other) commentary. You're only "right" in the sense that those who'd like to ignore/no-platform you tend to self-identify as left.

    I’d argue he’s one of the few moderate alt-righters–most of his ideas are actually practicable under a slightly different political arrangement.

  79. @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

    Yeah, basically. Importing more immigrants creates a larger reserve army of the unemployed. It’s one of those damned truths nobody can accept both halves of.

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    Yeah, basically. Importing more immigrants creates a larger reserve army of the unemployed. It’s one of those damned truths nobody can accept both halves of.
     
    i think you may have gotten at one of the essential truths surrounding this issue--rightwingers cannot talk much about this aspect of immigration because it violates the taboo that forbids discussion of capital vs labor in the context of immigration...and leftwingers cannot talk much about this issue because it violates the taboo against saying anything bad about The Holy Immigrant.


    And that is what trump did in his first campaign speech back last june--he said some illegal immigrants are rapists--violated the taboo against saying anything bad about The Holy Immigrant. And the media went nuts on him.

    Cruz in his desperation violated the taboo against discussing immigration in a labor vs capital context. And the media and the alt-right ecosystem ignored what cruz said.

  80. @Steve Sailer
    Israel claims the Golan Heights but doesn't claim the West Bank nor the Gaza Strip, right?

    There are a lot of hunks of land that are claimed by more than one state, such as parts of Kashmir and other high altitude parts of Himalayas that are disputed among India, Pakistan, China and perhaps some of the smaller local countries.

    But the West Bank is pretty weird in that the U.S. doesn't want any state to claim it at present, even though a few million people live there.

    I think I have that right ...

    There is a chunk of unpopulated land between Egypt and Sudan that is claimed by neither country. It is called Bir Tawil.

  81. A blonde haired and blue eyed South African judge named Mabel Jansen says rape is part of Black culture.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/white-south-african-judge-sparks-outrage-after-claiming-rape-is/

    The rape epidemic in South Africa certainly can not be blamed on South African men of Dutch ancestry, that’s for sure.

  82. @Steve Sailer
    Israel claims the Golan Heights but doesn't claim the West Bank nor the Gaza Strip, right?

    There are a lot of hunks of land that are claimed by more than one state, such as parts of Kashmir and other high altitude parts of Himalayas that are disputed among India, Pakistan, China and perhaps some of the smaller local countries.

    But the West Bank is pretty weird in that the U.S. doesn't want any state to claim it at present, even though a few million people live there.

    I think I have that right ...

    The West Bank has not been formally annexed by Israel, while the Golan has. So Israeli civil law does not apply in the West Bank but it does apply on the Golan, and any resident of the Golan is entitled to Israeli citizenship. East Jerusalem, which the US considers part of the West Bank, has been annexed by Israel and its primarily Palestinian population is entitled to Israeli citizenship.

  83. @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

    24aheaddotcom, is that you?

  84. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Pat Hannagan
    That's very interesting.

    I stayed for a couple of weeks at the home of a Vietnam vet in America many years ago and he said to me that Australians are socialists, that even our conservative party was socialist by American standards. What's more he pretty much equated socialism with Communism. At his family gatherings I went to this topic came up pretty often, pretty much like I was some sort of bizarre representative of the USSR. So, yeah, ever since then I've been aware that Yanks really do have this notion of socialism as next to Satan, as you put it.

    But I don't reckon that's why Sailer puts these nation wrecking policies down as merely stemming from "boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought". I think it has more to being civil. That's another thing that was startling about Yanks, their astounding civility. The White Yanks were so polite and civil that after a while it felt like it was a perverse form of relentless evil masquerading as niceness, but they were genuine!

    It would be confrontingly discourteous to point the finger at a person or peoples and accuse them of a deliberate policy of nation wrecking. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" would be the polite way of approaching these topics for the civil American.

    But, even if one does obviously know that Hanlon's razor can't be right there is also the matter of once you start pointing the bone and do blame certain people or peoples for deliberately setting about to wreck one's nation, then you're now in the territory of manifesto writing. The blog would no longer be blogging, or noticing, but rather a political platform, sides would be taken, people lost etc. All reasonable enough.

    Personally, I am very much into manifestos and intend to spend my retirement years writing several all firmly ensconced in a some hard to find bush bunker. Probably send out letter nail bombs too to all the Father Mulcahys of this world who slighted me in decades past, whose names I have carefully written down and stored for retribution. But, that's another story for a time far, far away...

    (PS. Sorry to talk about you behind your back, Steve, as if you've left the room for a minute.)

    Fine, whatever, maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m crazy, but don’t you find it weird that this truth about the immigration-wages-corporate profit connection has started to leak out and this realization has started to grow on the alt-right internet community, for years now, that mass immigration is all about capitalism and low wages (and more than just that–the capital vs labor fundamental conflict is at the bottom of it)….

    but this immigration-economics connection is only discussed from time to time…but it’s there…the idea is out there…and suddenly, during a debate, the last gop debate this spring, as I recall, cruz, the 2nd place candidate, obviously desperate, lays it all out there—BOOM–in one sentence—BOOM: immigration is depressing wages…almost his exact words…and trump has studiously avoided making this connection between wages and immigration his entire campaign…

    and NOBODY talks about what cruz said…not the media, not the pundits….not the alt right bloggers….not a peep…what the freak!?? I have been following this issue for DECADES…and to my knowledge what cruz said during that last debate, that was the most high level and most visible connection between wages and immigration since i have been following the issue…

    And then you have sailer here…been writing for vdare for years…vdare, the most prominent alt right anti-immigration, and a site that has for years –from time to time–boldly laid out this immigration-wages connection, also says nothing about what cruz said…sailer says nothing…and then this column where he ties the establishment love of open borders to….BOREDOM??!! What the freak??! It is so obviously about economics…not boredom! what the freak!?

    Maybe I am wrong…maybe i am just grasping at straws here…but what is the explanation for what is going on??

  85. @Jefferson
    Which big U.S city will be the first to elect a Muslim mayor? Saint Paul, Minneapolis, Oakland, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York City, Chicago, or Los Angeles?

    Detroit or somewhere in Michigan, I imagine.

    #2 concentration of Arab-Americans is the NYC area, but I think another bunch of people in the area might have a little more clout.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Detroit or somewhere in Michigan, I imagine.

    #2 concentration of Arab-Americans is the NYC area, but I think another bunch of people in the area might have a little more clout."

    You think the heavy Jewish presence in New York City might prevent a Muslim from ever becoming mayor there?

    There are way more Jews in New York City than there are Muslims. London has way more Muslims than Jews, hence why Mohammad is the most common male name for newborn babies there and why London's nickname is Londonstan and not Lond Aviv.

    Bottom line is Jews have less political power in London than they do in New York City.

  86. @Wilkey
    Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity.

    “Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity.”

    Hussein Obama is certainly no Christian. He only attended a Christian church in Chicago to help advance his political career, not because he likes to read the bible on a regular basis and has accepted Jesus Christ as his lord & savior.

    • Replies: @Mark F.
    No True Scotsman.

    Obama has not denied the divinity of Christ, unlike Jefferson and William H. Taft.
  87. @Wilkey
    Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity.

    A Muslim mayor in NYC? They couldn’t even get their intifada curriculum going.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalil_Gibran_International_Academy

    And yes, it’s exactly for the reason y’all would think.

  88. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    @Jack D
    No one looks at the Forbes rankings. In the US News rankings, which are the only ones anyone cares about, they are #47. Elite is a vague term but usually when you think "elite university in Boston", Northeastern is not what comes to mind. It's original name, The Evening Institute for Younger Men, located at the Huntington Avenue YMCA, gives you a clue about how "elite" it is.

    “Elite is a vague term but usually when you think “elite university in Boston”, Northeastern is not what comes to mind. ”

    It is geo-elite, or in the elite area, and that makes it elite by association.

    Also, it would be elite in most states of the US. But in Boston with so many top schools, it’s bound to be overshadowed by others.

    Besides, I’m trans-cognitive, so if I say Northeastern’s ranking just went from 47 to 5, it must be so. You don’t want to disagree with me cuz that will make you transcognophobic.

    Btw, what’s with the mega endowment at Harvard? I mean how can the university spend all that dough? I can understand how a lot of money might be spent on science labs and stuff, but most areas of study don’t need that much money. They are just about professors and paper,and paper aint expensive.

    Maybe Sanders got it all wrong. He should try to force rich universities to share their dough with poor universities.

  89. Glossy says: • Website
    @Cagey Beast
    It's very interesting how the two new political poles are establishing themselves. The sovereignists, patriots and those raised under Marxism-Leninism versus the globalists, neo-liberals and crypto-Trotskyites. Putin saw this from his perspective and apparently said so in a private meeting with the now ex-Prime Minister of Canada:

    Terry Glavin: The truth about the Harper ‘Trotskyites’
    Terry Glavin, Special to National Post | September 14, 2012

    “According to officials in the room with the two men,” Akin reports, “Putin said Harper and other Western leaders are acting like ‘Trotskyites’ – that was Putin’s line — for exporting revolution and promoting instability.”

     

    http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/terry-glavin-the-truth-about-the-harper-trotskyites

    Yes, the neocons are Trotskyists and their hatred of the post-WWII USSR was a continuation of their conflict with Stalin. Libertardianism is rebranded Communism, while Cold War Soviet Communism and current Chinese Communism are complete rejections of the original Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyist model. Of course all politics is, at bottom, ethnic and tribal, but it’s still useful to keep track of the overt, ideological terminology.

    The Cold Warrior neocon-libertardians were the true heirs of original Marxism. Post-Soviet privatisation was another collectivization and color revolutions are worldwide revolution. I don’t know if Putin understands ALL of that, but the comment you quoted and other things I’ve read imply that he understands a lot of it.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    I'd add the foundations to what you mentioned. They were giant homogenizing machines that worked endlessly to channel the many existing varieties of socialism, utopianism and internationalism into a few useful streams. The CounterPunch site has written interesting pieces on the topic over the years. Here's a particularly useful one:

    April 20, 2012, Foundations and American Power, by Joan Roelofs
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/04/20/foundations-and-american-power/

    There's also an article by Trotsky himself describing how his scheme could harmonize nicely with the American national character:

    From Liberty, March 23, 1935, If America Should Go Communist, Leon Trotsky
    https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1934/08/ame.htm

  90. @SFG
    Detroit or somewhere in Michigan, I imagine.

    #2 concentration of Arab-Americans is the NYC area, but I think another bunch of people in the area might have a little more clout.

    “Detroit or somewhere in Michigan, I imagine.

    #2 concentration of Arab-Americans is the NYC area, but I think another bunch of people in the area might have a little more clout.”

    You think the heavy Jewish presence in New York City might prevent a Muslim from ever becoming mayor there?

    There are way more Jews in New York City than there are Muslims. London has way more Muslims than Jews, hence why Mohammad is the most common male name for newborn babies there and why London’s nickname is Londonstan and not Lond Aviv.

    Bottom line is Jews have less political power in London than they do in New York City.

  91. cato says:

    The European “far right” parties are not really what we would call “the right”. They are mostly defenders of the welfare state, and smart enough to know that the welfare state can only work when taxpayers are motivated by what Pierre van den Berghe calls “ethnic nepotism”–inclusive fitness at the nation-state level.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    The European “far right” parties are not really what we would call “the right”. They are mostly defenders of the welfare state, and smart enough to know that the welfare state can only work when taxpayers are motivated by what Pierre van den Berghe calls “ethnic nepotism”–inclusive fitness at the nation-state level.
     
    No, it works only when the bureaucrats are motivated by ethnic interests, which is an orderly state that will seldom last for long.
    , @Anon
    Actually, the right is motivated by common sense. You can't invite millions of people to your party without them eating all the cake and leaving none of it for you.

    The right understands Thomas Malthus. The left doesn't. The left thinks government can just spend forever without any problem. The left thinks it can invite the entire world's poor to their own lands without the welfare state collapsing.

    The left has frogs-boiling-in-a-pot syndrome. The middle-class standard of living has been eroding since the 1980s, and left is in denial about this. Since the 80s, housing prices have shot sky-high in many areas. Cars are a lot more expensive to pay for in proportion to your income. The cost of college has gone sky-high. Medical care and premiums is sky-high. All of these things would be cheaper without the large wave of immigration from Mexico and other Hispanic countries that started in the 1980s.

    The left deliberately refuses to understand any of this. They fight their utmost to avoid connecting the dots. Altruism is the only thing that makes a leftist feel good. They must repeat their mantra over and over, "I'm a good person, I really am; I'm a good person, I really am," because if they ever let that stop, they'd go into psychological collapse.

    The left operates like an idiot who's racked up a ton of credit card debt and whose brain goes all fuzzy when you ask the blockhead how he's going to pay it off, because he doesn't want to stop spending because it feels so good. The denial is profound.

  92. @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism.

    That’s poorly said. The establishment supports socialism (centralization of wealth in the hands of the state under the false pretense of distributing wealth fairly), and of course educated and powerless people are going to dislike this.

    As for Robert-Owen-style socialism, or class cooperation, or voluntary yet essentially obligatory sharing of wealth, no one ever talks about it. Well, I guess I do, and Bowery’s citizen’s dividend funded by property taxes is in a similar vein, and D.S. Wilson and Matt Ridley and Christopher Boehm venture into that territory.

    But why don’t you start by defining your terms. What do you mean by “socialism”?

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    But why don’t you start by defining your terms. What do you mean by “socialism”?
     
    no, sorry, I am not really interested in the definition of socialism...I am interested in what happened in the past and how it affects the present and the future....there was a propaganda war against what was called socialism, and that war has echoes in the present...that war and its echoes have molded and shaped minds of present day americans...and those minds are now readers to be harvested, clicks on the internet...and the reactions of those minds to certain words and ideas are taken into account by those who write about politics...politically oriented writers who seek clicks avoid certain ideas in order to attract those minds...this is reality...but the reality of the present shapes the future...these are my areas of interest...
  93. @cato
    The European "far right" parties are not really what we would call "the right". They are mostly defenders of the welfare state, and smart enough to know that the welfare state can only work when taxpayers are motivated by what Pierre van den Berghe calls "ethnic nepotism"--inclusive fitness at the nation-state level.

    The European “far right” parties are not really what we would call “the right”. They are mostly defenders of the welfare state, and smart enough to know that the welfare state can only work when taxpayers are motivated by what Pierre van den Berghe calls “ethnic nepotism”–inclusive fitness at the nation-state level.

    No, it works only when the bureaucrats are motivated by ethnic interests, which is an orderly state that will seldom last for long.

  94. @WorkingClass
    Center is more accurate than right. But Trump is neither. Trump is a populist.

    Trump is popular but how much of a populist is he? It’s interesting how he makes very few, if any, gestures to suggest he’s just a man of simple tastes and homespun wisdom. He even chatted about the trouble he has buying good hairspray just after trying on a coal miner’s helmet in front of a monster rally in West Virginia last week.

    Steve’s right that Trump’s a centrist. He’s a radical centrist like Putin. The two also have in common an army of supporters who clearly love watching them live large and in charge:

  95. @BB753
    Let's not put all the blame on Kerry! Who's writing his speeches?

    Let’s not put all the blame on Kerry! Who’s writing his speeches?

    More importantly, who’s supervising his meds?

  96. @Immigrant from former USSR
    Attention Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz:
    At 5:00 PM E.T. this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com .
    Sure, many of them are 3 to 10 by the same commentator, but some are by one person.
    It is pretty rare that articles at Unz Review collect that many comments.

    Article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO on 2016_05_09 this:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435138/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conservatives-never-trump-2016
    That article collected 2671 comments, as of now.

    Isn't it a sign, how many people have read it there ?

    I will be happy to promote Unz Review. Tell me, how to do that.

    … this article by Sailer has got 407 comments at Takimag.com … [an] article by Victor Davis Hanson was published at NRO … collected 2671 comments … [the same article at Unz has fewer than 100 comments as of this wroting]

    Yeah, but the aggregate IQs of the commenters in each of the three groups is approximately equal.

    Taki’s commenters are retards. NRO commenters are undersea plants.

  97. @Anonym
    Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.

    Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.

    That explains why John Derbyshire and Gavin McInnes have been fighting so hard—and for so long!—for open borders.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    Thank you. This pocket psychology shit is getting way out of hand.
    Of course I don't discount the after-the-fact effect of marrying out--one feels an obligation to his mate and offspring, perhaps. Then there are those who embrace it as a career-assist, like Jeb.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    That explains why John Derbyshire and Gavin McInnes have been fighting so hard—and for so long!—for open borders.
     
    Jean-Marie Le Pen is Breton, and his #2 man Bruno Gollnisch Alsatian.

    Gollnisch had three children with his Japanese wife. Jared Taylor bragged that he and Gollnisch could converse equally easily in English, French, or Japanese.
    , @Anonym
    Exceptions that prove the rule?
  98. @Leftist conservative

    Can you explain this in more detail please? What’s the “Socialism Subroutines”?
     
    well, for the most part, the readers on this site --and simlar sites-- have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism. That propaganda campaign was successful in demonizing certain ideas and phrases, and successful in storing certain reactions to certain ideas, words, phrases. When you get to a person young and fill their brains with certain ideas and programmed reactions, that sort of programming may well last a lifetime. That long propaganda campaign taught many young male americans that anyone who framed a political discussion in terms of labor vs capital was a socialist, and that socialism was satan. What's weird is that many alt right readers were not even exposed to that anti-socialism propaganda campaign directly--they are too young. But the after-effects of that decades-long campaign are still strong.

    Alt right bloggers, pundits etc don't want to be seen as satan by their readers. Fancy that. So they for the most part avoid framing immigration issues as a conflict between labor and capital. Which it is. For sure. But just like liberal bloggers, pundits and even politicians, they have to play to the programming existing in the brains of their core audience. Cruz broke out of the mold because he was desperate. It failed, of course. Not because he was wrong, but because the bloggers, pundits on the alt right want to keep their audience.

    And of course the 'liberal' media doesn't want to touch that because it is the truth.

    … for the most part, the readers on this site –and simlar sites– have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.

    Thank goodness you’re here, then. We duds have needed a visionary to lead us for far too long—the battle was almost lost without you!

    But don’t bash Trump too much. I see him as sort of a John the Baptist type, prefiguring your arrival. Or maybe he’s a hype man, pumping up the crowd for when you reveal the real truth about immigration and wages—the truth only Ted Cruz dared speak.

    I mean, unless you count all those Rubenstein and Borjas articles Pete Brimelow’s been publishing for years…

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    But don’t bash Trump too much. I see him as sort of a John the Baptist type, prefiguring your arrival. Or maybe he’s a hype man, pumping up the crowd for when you reveal the real truth about immigration and wages—the truth only Ted Cruz dared speak.

     

    more like the other way around--I would like to think that trump was influenced by those few on vdare who discussed immigration in the context of labor vs capital...yes, I think that trump understands immigration in a labor vs capital context, but I suspect he is heeding the taboo in that regard...I am not sure why he is doing so, though...


    I mean, unless you count all those Rubenstein and Borjas articles Pete Brimelow’s been publishing for years…

     

    Or maybe I published on vdare re labor vs capital before rubenstein and borjas did so (but not before kirkpatrick and collins)...don't bet against it...I was on vdare many many years ago...and more than once...
  99. A huge brawl breaks out at a high school in New York City. Judging by the phenotypes, the student body of this school looks to be entirely made up of Puerto Ricans, African Americans, and Dominicans.
    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Washington-Heights-High-School-Brawl-Street-Kids-Hurt-Academy-of-the-Arts-378877221.html

  100. @Glossy
    Yes, the neocons are Trotskyists and their hatred of the post-WWII USSR was a continuation of their conflict with Stalin. Libertardianism is rebranded Communism, while Cold War Soviet Communism and current Chinese Communism are complete rejections of the original Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyist model. Of course all politics is, at bottom, ethnic and tribal, but it's still useful to keep track of the overt, ideological terminology.

    The Cold Warrior neocon-libertardians were the true heirs of original Marxism. Post-Soviet privatisation was another collectivization and color revolutions are worldwide revolution. I don't know if Putin understands ALL of that, but the comment you quoted and other things I've read imply that he understands a lot of it.

    I’d add the foundations to what you mentioned. They were giant homogenizing machines that worked endlessly to channel the many existing varieties of socialism, utopianism and internationalism into a few useful streams. The CounterPunch site has written interesting pieces on the topic over the years. Here’s a particularly useful one:

    April 20, 2012, Foundations and American Power, by Joan Roelofs
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/04/20/foundations-and-american-power/

    There’s also an article by Trotsky himself describing how his scheme could harmonize nicely with the American national character:

    From Liberty, March 23, 1935, If America Should Go Communist, Leon Trotsky
    https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1934/08/ame.htm

  101. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @cato
    The European "far right" parties are not really what we would call "the right". They are mostly defenders of the welfare state, and smart enough to know that the welfare state can only work when taxpayers are motivated by what Pierre van den Berghe calls "ethnic nepotism"--inclusive fitness at the nation-state level.

    Actually, the right is motivated by common sense. You can’t invite millions of people to your party without them eating all the cake and leaving none of it for you.

    The right understands Thomas Malthus. The left doesn’t. The left thinks government can just spend forever without any problem. The left thinks it can invite the entire world’s poor to their own lands without the welfare state collapsing.

    The left has frogs-boiling-in-a-pot syndrome. The middle-class standard of living has been eroding since the 1980s, and left is in denial about this. Since the 80s, housing prices have shot sky-high in many areas. Cars are a lot more expensive to pay for in proportion to your income. The cost of college has gone sky-high. Medical care and premiums is sky-high. All of these things would be cheaper without the large wave of immigration from Mexico and other Hispanic countries that started in the 1980s.

    The left deliberately refuses to understand any of this. They fight their utmost to avoid connecting the dots. Altruism is the only thing that makes a leftist feel good. They must repeat their mantra over and over, “I’m a good person, I really am; I’m a good person, I really am,” because if they ever let that stop, they’d go into psychological collapse.

    The left operates like an idiot who’s racked up a ton of credit card debt and whose brain goes all fuzzy when you ask the blockhead how he’s going to pay it off, because he doesn’t want to stop spending because it feels so good. The denial is profound.

    • Replies: @epebble
    "All of these things would be cheaper without the large wave of immigration from Mexico and other Hispanic countries that started in the 1980s."

    Can you cite any study for that? I am interested in exploring further. Inflation was quite high in the 1970s ( before significant Mexican migration).
    , @ben tillman

    The left deliberately refuses to understand any of this. They fight their utmost to avoid connecting the dots. Altruism is the only thing that makes a leftist feel good.
     
    There's an important distinction to be made between liberals and leftists. Altruism makes liberals feel good; aggression or destruction makes leftists feel good.
  102. “Kerry climaxed his speech with an inspiring story about all the patriotic Americans who sacrificed their lives propping up Chiang Kai-shek’s regime in the 1940s:”

    Yeah, dying to prop up a brutal and corrupt foreign warlord in his fight against a brutal and insane foreign warlord for a control of a backward foreign country is a destiny to which every American should aspire.

    Is not this the same John Kerry who said of another group of Americans who had been sent abroad on a civilizing mission: “They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.”? If that is his experience of American power, why does he think that other people around the world would welcome it?

  103. @Daniel Williams

    Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.
     
    That explains why John Derbyshire and Gavin McInnes have been fighting so hard—and for so long!—for open borders.

    Thank you. This pocket psychology shit is getting way out of hand.
    Of course I don’t discount the after-the-fact effect of marrying out–one feels an obligation to his mate and offspring, perhaps. Then there are those who embrace it as a career-assist, like Jeb.

  104. @Jack D
    A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    “A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do……….”

    Quite so. But instead of Lennon’s version, we will get this one:

    Imagine (A Perfect Circle)

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    Borderless world is nonsense, and Kerry knows it.

    Money and connections serve as wall. Green walls.

    If you got the greens, you got the borders. You can hire all the security you need.

    http://uchicagogate.com/2014/06/02/a-wall-around-hyde-park/

    Green walls are invisible but effective as hell. You need money to enter. And if you don't belong, you will be stopped-and-frisked.

    People who can afford walls can pontificate about borderless world to the rest of us.

    Even among immigrants, the ones with money or special talents(that earns them money) move into the green zones with green walls.
    The ones without money and without talent merge with the native hoi polloi who can't afford green walls.

    ELYSIUM is a terrible movie, but maybe the white masses have no choice but to merge with the darkies and together smash the whitopia, Jewtopia, and mulattopia of green walls.
    Hunger Games suggested likewise.
  105. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Do you ever wonder if maybe historians in the future will have fun comparing the history of the USSR between the fall of Vietnam and the fall of the Berlin Wall with US history between the fall of the Berlin Wall and the 2016 election? “World empire is ours, into the breach comrade citizens!”

    It’s expensive and wears people out.

    Another thing, independent of all isms and ologies. An obscure academic history of Civil War politics made an interesting point that the prominent politicians of the South who had led the South to secede, and who led the Confederacy, were surprised to find that after the war they were often just ignored. A half-a decade of big war, or two to three decades of drawn-out little wars with no clear victorious conclusion, might just be enough for people to want to move on to other leaders, regardless of the stature of the original leaders. It just doesn’t feel like victory. Sun Tzu: “…There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare… …if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain…”

  106. @Anon
    Actually, the right is motivated by common sense. You can't invite millions of people to your party without them eating all the cake and leaving none of it for you.

    The right understands Thomas Malthus. The left doesn't. The left thinks government can just spend forever without any problem. The left thinks it can invite the entire world's poor to their own lands without the welfare state collapsing.

    The left has frogs-boiling-in-a-pot syndrome. The middle-class standard of living has been eroding since the 1980s, and left is in denial about this. Since the 80s, housing prices have shot sky-high in many areas. Cars are a lot more expensive to pay for in proportion to your income. The cost of college has gone sky-high. Medical care and premiums is sky-high. All of these things would be cheaper without the large wave of immigration from Mexico and other Hispanic countries that started in the 1980s.

    The left deliberately refuses to understand any of this. They fight their utmost to avoid connecting the dots. Altruism is the only thing that makes a leftist feel good. They must repeat their mantra over and over, "I'm a good person, I really am; I'm a good person, I really am," because if they ever let that stop, they'd go into psychological collapse.

    The left operates like an idiot who's racked up a ton of credit card debt and whose brain goes all fuzzy when you ask the blockhead how he's going to pay it off, because he doesn't want to stop spending because it feels so good. The denial is profound.

    “All of these things would be cheaper without the large wave of immigration from Mexico and other Hispanic countries that started in the 1980s.”

    Can you cite any study for that? I am interested in exploring further. Inflation was quite high in the 1970s ( before significant Mexican migration).

  107. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Shouldn’t it be called Jill Crow in this case?
     
    How about Sheryl Crow?
  108. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @SFG
    Yeah, basically. Importing more immigrants creates a larger reserve army of the unemployed. It's one of those damned truths nobody can accept both halves of.

    Yeah, basically. Importing more immigrants creates a larger reserve army of the unemployed. It’s one of those damned truths nobody can accept both halves of.

    i think you may have gotten at one of the essential truths surrounding this issue–rightwingers cannot talk much about this aspect of immigration because it violates the taboo that forbids discussion of capital vs labor in the context of immigration…and leftwingers cannot talk much about this issue because it violates the taboo against saying anything bad about The Holy Immigrant.

    And that is what trump did in his first campaign speech back last june–he said some illegal immigrants are rapists–violated the taboo against saying anything bad about The Holy Immigrant. And the media went nuts on him.

    Cruz in his desperation violated the taboo against discussing immigration in a labor vs capital context. And the media and the alt-right ecosystem ignored what cruz said.

  109. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do.........."

    Quite so. But instead of Lennon's version, we will get this one:

    Imagine (A Perfect Circle)

    Borderless world is nonsense, and Kerry knows it.

    Money and connections serve as wall. Green walls.

    If you got the greens, you got the borders. You can hire all the security you need.

    http://uchicagogate.com/2014/06/02/a-wall-around-hyde-park/

    Green walls are invisible but effective as hell. You need money to enter. And if you don’t belong, you will be stopped-and-frisked.

    People who can afford walls can pontificate about borderless world to the rest of us.

    Even among immigrants, the ones with money or special talents(that earns them money) move into the green zones with green walls.
    The ones without money and without talent merge with the native hoi polloi who can’t afford green walls.

    ELYSIUM is a terrible movie, but maybe the white masses have no choice but to merge with the darkies and together smash the whitopia, Jewtopia, and mulattopia of green walls.
    Hunger Games suggested likewise.

  110. I can’t even… I read the whole C speech – so creepy. My friends have children at Northeastern. I am just shuddering with shock/disgust/outrage. He is so condescending to the audience while thinking he is coming across all magnanimous, a big deal – he knows (he just can’t hide it, what a dufus!) he is at a sub-par U, in his opinion, of course – hah, he is more oleaginous than Lyin’ Ted!

    Why do I care? I mean, he didn’t get the presidency, phew, missed that bullet. But, I am glad he is spooked by Trump.

    I just told my husband tonight, the people who so detest Trump are weirdly, in an unhealthy way, obsessed by him every second, every moment, every day – they dream about him, wake up with Trump on their mind! Trump is that obnoxious relative who tells you that you are not “all that,” at Christmas – and thank goodness, otherwise we wouldn’t lose our ass-hat ways.

    What “condition” can we come up with to call what these Trump-obsessed “progressives” and “conservatives” are suffering from? – the ones that can’t even give a simple “spread-your-wings-and-fly” commencement speech without self-aggrandizement, pomposity, and cloying unctuousness, and a hint of Trump-hate…and underhanded threats to students that may have Trump fever. I hate to say it, but I will be glad when the eldest Boomers (the 68+ people) in government are gone out of DC for good – gone to nursing homes. Like I said, the N.E. event…I just, can’t even.

  111. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Hunsdon
    Save us Unz-i Won Kenobi, you're our only hope!

    My child, you have come to me, my son. For who now is your father if it is not me? I am the well spring, from which you flow. When I am gone, you will have never been. What would your world be, without me? My son.

    • Replies: @Veracitor
    Thank you, Thulsa Doom from John Milius' movie version of Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian aided by L. Sprague de Camp.
  112. @AnotherDad
    Kerry threw some *other* guy's medals away and kept his own.

    That's pretty much all you need to know about the guy.

    Kerry threw some *other* guy’s medals away and kept his own.

    That’s pretty much all you need to know about the guy.

    That, and he windsurfs.

  113. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    @Jack D
    A famous Lennon (John, not Vladimir) formulated the current Democrat platform back in 1971:

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Lennon wrote that song as a rich millionaire. His leftism was a conceit. It had nothing to do with the real world.

    But I think there was genuine idealism in Lennon. Naive and silly, yes, but Imagine is a sincere utopian song.

    But today’s globalism is not about utopianism. It is really driven by greed, powerlust, supremacism, desperation, aggression.

    Lennon also sang ‘imagine no possession.’ Globalism is oligarchical, a hunger for more money. It is driven by capitalism. Communism never had this kind of reach.
    And Hollywood and MTV spread vanity, materialism, narcissism, and piggery.
    Rap promotes thug culture and war culture. Video games, a global phenom, offer violent fantasies.
    Globalism is driven by super-pigs like Sheldon Adelson and Koch Bros. And the Bushes and the Romneys. Democrats are now the party of 1%. Big money is going to Hillary. Also, US takes in people from China, India, Russia, Iran, and etc and turns them around to serve globalism against their own native nations.

    Lennon’s song is spiritual even if it says ‘no religion’. It is new age feely-good stuff.
    But globalism is about worship of mammon, sodom, thugro, hedonism.

    Also, masses of poor who move to the West are not motivated by some spiritual dream or vision. They just want free stuff. They want welfare and wanna be piggish walmart shoppers or shoplifters. Or they want to rape white women.

    Lennon’s song is sane compared to today’s globalism.

    Globo song is more like

    Imagine there’s only Glob
    Fisted up your ass
    It kills everyone who resists(just as Gadfly)
    And the religion is the homo-anus.
    Imagine all the people
    Living like piggish Walmart black friday freaks.
    You may say I’m exaggerating
    But I assure you it is true
    I hope someday you see the light
    and realize who’s behind the Glob.

  114. gda says:
    @Anonymous
    "Trump's past crude sex talk collides with White House bid "

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/from-playboy-to-president-trumps-past-behavior-collides-with-his-white-house-bid/2016/05/09/46bed6f8-12fe-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

    “You could’ve gotten her, right?” Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997. “You could’ve nailed her.”

    “I think I could have,” Trump said.

    How about singer Mariah Carey? “Would you bang her?” Stern asked. Trump replied, “I would do it without hesitation.”

    Trump’s crude talk on-air with Stern between 1990 and 2005 was part of an image the businessman cultivated as a Manhattan playboy who had so many women that he barely had time to sleep. He was often seen at trendy nightclubs with different women, appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, wrote in his books about all the women chasing him and publicly boasted about his sex life.

    ...

    When asked by Playboy magazine in 2004 about Viagra, Trump boasted: “I just have never needed it.” He went on to say that what he really needed was an “anti-Viagra, something with the opposite effect.”

    “I’m not bragging,” he bragged. “I’m just lucky.”

    ...

    Some of Trump’s most raw language came during his appearances with Stern, when the two would critique women’s looks.

    The BuzzFeed list included one clip in which Trump said: “Her boob job is terrible. They look like two light posts coming out of a body.” In another clip, Trump said, “A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.”

    Stern had a huge national audience and made a name for himself with off-color questions, like this one, to Trump: “Is oral sex important to you? Man to man, and I’ve had this discussion with many men.”

    Trump responded, “No, it’s not important to me.”
     

    Can you damn a man because of his upbringing among the hard-working construction workers of NY, who shaped the way he grew up and how he expresses himself when challenged or when engaged in “male talk”? That’s skirting on racism, I think. It’s certainly culturalism, which is just as bad.

    I predict all this will just make Trump more popular. Again.

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    Can you damn a man because of his upbringing among the hard-working construction workers of NY, who shaped the way he grew up and how he expresses himself when challenged or when engaged in “male talk”? That’s skirting on racism, I think. It’s certainly culturalism, which is just as bad.

    I predict all this will just make Trump more popular. Again.

     

    yes, I agree completely. Trumpism is in large part a triumph of the speech rhythms of blue collar white males--the vocabulary, diction, phrasing, etc...a triumph of blue collar speech patterns over the speech patterns of the college educated, in particular, the speech patterns of the ivy league grads that have dominated washington and the media for lo these many years....

    what was it that one of trump backers on tv said? The actor who played Chachi on Happy Days and Joanie Loves Chachi (oh, the fine wine of the late 70 and 80s...)...he said on tv that trump "talks like I do," and that this was one of the reasons he liked trump...yes, exactly...trump took on the speech patterns of his father...who came up blue collar (remember that his father fred was apparently arrested during a KKK rally in the 1920s...so fred was a knockabout sort of guy...)...the revolt of the demonized white males defines trumpism...and their speech patterns are coming along for the ride...

  115. By the way, I got the idea of Trump as the “Alt-Center” candidate from a commenter here a week or two ago, but I couldn’t find the old comment to link to it.

    Happy to oblige:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-whites-who-vote-for-trump-will-go-to-hell/#comment-1411689

  116. @Daniel Williams

    Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.
     
    That explains why John Derbyshire and Gavin McInnes have been fighting so hard—and for so long!—for open borders.

    That explains why John Derbyshire and Gavin McInnes have been fighting so hard—and for so long!—for open borders.

    Jean-Marie Le Pen is Breton, and his #2 man Bruno Gollnisch Alsatian.

    Gollnisch had three children with his Japanese wife. Jared Taylor bragged that he and Gollnisch could converse equally easily in English, French, or Japanese.

  117. @Priss Factor
    Shouldn't it be called Jill Crow in this case?

    Or Jim Cross-Dress?

    http://www.westernfreepress.com/2016/05/11/exclusive-nc-lt-gov-calls-obama-administrations-jim-crow-claim-shameful/

    Shouldn’t it be called Jill Crow in this case?

    How about Sheryl Crow?

  118. @Anonym
    Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.

    “Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.”

    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children. Wanting to rub one out to your waifu is a different matter to walking around with a placard stating "Asian women are a story of bravery of love" which is not on the same level as staging love-ins with Yoko Ono.

    Btw in what is a horrible tragedy of the digital era, our tall placard holding white knight is no longer. It is a sad, sad day.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/the-obama-coalition-in-action.html

    Anyway, my point is that once you have mixed race children, you really have gone "all in" with multiculturalism. Maybe you have regrets and champion the race of your parents. But for every Derbyshire, there are probably 100 Zuckerbergs from what I have seen.

    , @Brutusale
    Same here, but I'd prefer Bingbing Li.
    , @BB753
    Man, she's way past her prime! Even older than Lucy Liu or Mia Carrere.
  119. we Euros can top Kerry easily:

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-15-5754_en.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_Timmermans (First Vice-President of the European Commission) on diversity, basically, diversity or war:

    The rise of islamophobia is the one of the biggest challenges in Europe. It is a challenge to our vital values, to the core of who we are.

    Never has our societies’ capacity for openness, for tolerance, for inclusion been more tested than it is today.

    Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. Diversity comes with challenges. But diversity is humanity’s destiny. There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future. That’s where humanity is heading. And those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture, are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed, therefore that future will never be.

    Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world will be diverse. The only question is, how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity. That will bring us down as a society.

    If we don’t get this right, I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom, for very long.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The best case for Brexit yet made.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future.
     
    A direct threat to the Andaman nation.

    ...how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how...
     
    Who is "we"? Whose is "our"? What is "valued"?
    , @Steve Sailer
    The funny thing about Kerry's speech is that he seems to be promising to the boys in the audience opportunities to rain war down upon foreigners and to the girls in the audience opportunities to nurture foreigners.

    It's pretty insane but it probably was popular with the 22-year-olds in the audience.
  120. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Where does John Kerry live?

    I mean, in which particular American neighborhood is his no doubt salubrious residence located?
    What are the demographics of that neighborhood?

    Surely, if John Kerry loved the delights of ‘multiculturalism’ and a ‘border less world’ he would choose to locate himself and his family in one of America’s more diverse neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Beacon Hill, Boston demographics:

    http://boston.blacksoftware.com/statistics/stats-backbay_beaconhill.pdf
  121. @theo the kraut
    we Euros can top Kerry easily:

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-15-5754_en.htm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14U5ZE-N2w

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_Timmermans (First Vice-President of the European Commission) on diversity, basically, diversity or war:

    The rise of islamophobia is the one of the biggest challenges in Europe. It is a challenge to our vital values, to the core of who we are.

    Never has our societies' capacity for openness, for tolerance, for inclusion been more tested than it is today.

    Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. Diversity comes with challenges. But diversity is humanity's destiny. There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future. That’s where humanity is heading. And those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture, are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed, therefore that future will never be.

    Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world will be diverse. The only question is, how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity. That will bring us down as a society.

    If we don’t get this right, I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom, for very long.
     

    The best case for Brexit yet made.

  122. @Cagey Beast
    It's very interesting how the two new political poles are establishing themselves. The sovereignists, patriots and those raised under Marxism-Leninism versus the globalists, neo-liberals and crypto-Trotskyites. Putin saw this from his perspective and apparently said so in a private meeting with the now ex-Prime Minister of Canada:

    Terry Glavin: The truth about the Harper ‘Trotskyites’
    Terry Glavin, Special to National Post | September 14, 2012

    “According to officials in the room with the two men,” Akin reports, “Putin said Harper and other Western leaders are acting like ‘Trotskyites’ – that was Putin’s line — for exporting revolution and promoting instability.”

     

    http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/terry-glavin-the-truth-about-the-harper-trotskyites

    I “get” it when people identify neo-cons and globalists with Trotskyites, but at the same time I think it should be kept in mind that it’s not Communism they try to export but rather T**P and such stuff, i.e. raw corporate (and by extension, American) power. That and gay rights. They’re interested in Trotskyism, Gramscianism etc only as to the mechanics of “exporting a revolution”

    • Replies: @anon

    I “get” it when people identify neo-cons and globalists with Trotskyites, but at the same time I think it should be kept in mind that it’s not Communism they try to export
     
    Is that what Trotskyists really tried to export though?

    On the surface yes but I think a lot of the connection is simply personality; they *like* permanent revolution - for whatever purpose.
  123. @Daniel Williams

    Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism.
     
    That explains why John Derbyshire and Gavin McInnes have been fighting so hard—and for so long!—for open borders.

    Exceptions that prove the rule?

  124. @theo the kraut
    we Euros can top Kerry easily:

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-15-5754_en.htm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14U5ZE-N2w

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_Timmermans (First Vice-President of the European Commission) on diversity, basically, diversity or war:

    The rise of islamophobia is the one of the biggest challenges in Europe. It is a challenge to our vital values, to the core of who we are.

    Never has our societies' capacity for openness, for tolerance, for inclusion been more tested than it is today.

    Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. Diversity comes with challenges. But diversity is humanity's destiny. There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future. That’s where humanity is heading. And those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture, are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed, therefore that future will never be.

    Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world will be diverse. The only question is, how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity. That will bring us down as a society.

    If we don’t get this right, I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom, for very long.
     

    There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future.

    A direct threat to the Andaman nation.

    …how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how…

    Who is “we”? Whose is “our”? What is “valued”?

  125. @Leftist conservative
    My child, you have come to me, my son. For who now is your father if it is not me? I am the well spring, from which you flow. When I am gone, you will have never been. What would your world be, without me? My son.

    Thank you, Thulsa Doom from John Milius’ movie version of Robert E. Howard’s Conan the Barbarian aided by L. Sprague de Camp.

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative
    you have made an enormous contribution to this thread
  126. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Veracitor
    Thank you, Thulsa Doom from John Milius' movie version of Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian aided by L. Sprague de Camp.

    you have made an enormous contribution to this thread

  127. The globalists are evil.

    They’re trying to turn the entire world into a giant slave plantation.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "They’re trying to turn the entire world into a giant slave plantation."

    Or a farm on which we are the beasts. Ensure there's enough diversity for no one group to be a threat. Divide and rule.
  128. @Langley
    This should be an add for Trump:

    Middle class shrinking in major cities, study finds

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/business/business-breaking/middle-class-shrinking-in-major-cities-study-finds/

    WASHINGTON » In cities across America, the middle class is hollowing out.

    A widening wealth gap is moving more households into either higher- or lower-income groups in major metro areas, with fewer remaining in the middle, according to a report released today by the Pew Research Center.

    In nearly one-quarter of metro areas, middle-class adults no longer make up a majority, the Pew analysis found. That’s up from fewer than 10 percent of metro areas in 2000.

    That is precisely what open borders does – turns a middle class economy into a plantation economy.

  129. Anybody regularly reading the comments knows that Candid_Observer’s name is apt.

  130. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @andy russia
    I "get" it when people identify neo-cons and globalists with Trotskyites, but at the same time I think it should be kept in mind that it's not Communism they try to export but rather T**P and such stuff, i.e. raw corporate (and by extension, American) power. That and gay rights. They're interested in Trotskyism, Gramscianism etc only as to the mechanics of "exporting a revolution"

    I “get” it when people identify neo-cons and globalists with Trotskyites, but at the same time I think it should be kept in mind that it’s not Communism they try to export

    Is that what Trotskyists really tried to export though?

    On the surface yes but I think a lot of the connection is simply personality; they *like* permanent revolution – for whatever purpose.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    ... I think a lot of the connection is simply personality; they *like* permanent revolution – for whatever purpose.

    I think this is true. Permanent revolution feeds the dark part of human nature that enjoys smashing other people's things and getting high on the feeling that one's on the winning side of history.
  131. New Labour, Blair etc., much like Bill Clinton I would guess, were masters at not allowing their real opinions on such matters to get out to the wider electorate.

  132. All land except the South Pole and (on paper) the West Bank and the Golan Heights is divided up under the dominion of territorial states.

    Steve Sailer just cannot help his atavistic, nihilistic anti-Israel dog whistling. It’s almost Pavlovian at this point.

    1 minute on google is enough to find out which parts of the world are currently under military occupation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_occupations

    Turns out Steve’s favourite country Russia is pretty prominent.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Nah, the West Bank really is in a weird diplomatic limbo of pretty much its own according to the U.S. government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_the_Palestinian_territories

    There are a lot of examples of the U.S. government recognizing a different government as the legitimate ruler of a territory than the one actually running things on the ground. For example, the U.S. government recognizes South Ossetia to be part of Georgia, even though it hasn't been part of Georgia for a quarter of a century.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Abkhazia_and_South_Ossetia

    But that's different from the West Bank where, as far as I can tell, the United States doesn't recognize anybody as being in charge:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

    "President Barack Obama declared U.S. opposition to the bid in his speech to the General Assembly, saying that "genuine peace can only be realised between Israelis and Palestinians themselves" and that "[u]ltimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians – not us – who must reach an agreement on the issues that divide them".[344] Obama told Abbas that they would veto any United Nations Security Council move to recognise Palestinian statehood.[345]"

    The U.S. strategy is to use the prospect of recognition of some kind of Palestinian state as a carrot for the Palestinians and a stick for the Israelis to induce cooperation.

    But not much has happened over the years.

    , @Mr. Anon
    "Turns out Steve’s favourite country Russia is pretty prominent."

    Steve's favorite country is America. What's yours? Shall we guess?
  133. @Steve Sailer
    Israel claims the Golan Heights but doesn't claim the West Bank nor the Gaza Strip, right?

    There are a lot of hunks of land that are claimed by more than one state, such as parts of Kashmir and other high altitude parts of Himalayas that are disputed among India, Pakistan, China and perhaps some of the smaller local countries.

    But the West Bank is pretty weird in that the U.S. doesn't want any state to claim it at present, even though a few million people live there.

    I think I have that right ...

    There’s nothing weird about it when you consider the basic contextual facts.

    1) Until 1967 the West Bank was administered by Jordan, which is therefore the state that, according to international law, has prior claim.
    2) Jordan foreswares any such claim, but states that the West Bank belongs to the state of Palestine, which doesn’t exist and has never existed.
    3) Until 1967 Palestinian nationalist movements foreswore any claim to the West Bank and stated that their future state would exist within the 1948 borders of Israel.
    4) Palestinian nationalists have stated repeatedly that their post 1967 claim to the West Bank is a ruse to destroy Israel. (documentation required if necessary).

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel, but supports the creation of a country that has no purpose and has never had any purpose other than to destroy Israel.

    But the point isn’t to understand, the point is to play dumb and give the wink so that if you ever make it back into the mainstream you can pretend that all the Holocaust deniers you’ve been letting play on your blog for the last decade had nothing to do with you guv.

    • Replies: @anonymous

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel, but supports the creation of a country that has no purpose and has never had any purpose other than to destroy Israel
     
    I would suppose that the Palestinian Arabs need a place to live, don't they? Or are they supposed to just vanish into thin air as you seem to prefer?

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel,
     
    You sound skeptical with your use of the word "claims". Hasn't the US supported Israel up to the hilt all these years? Or perhaps you feel it hasn't done enough for Israel?
  134. @Gabriel M

    All land except the South Pole and (on paper) the West Bank and the Golan Heights is divided up under the dominion of territorial states.

     

    Steve Sailer just cannot help his atavistic, nihilistic anti-Israel dog whistling. It's almost Pavlovian at this point.

    1 minute on google is enough to find out which parts of the world are currently under military occupation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_occupations

    Turns out Steve's favourite country Russia is pretty prominent.

    Nah, the West Bank really is in a weird diplomatic limbo of pretty much its own according to the U.S. government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_the_Palestinian_territories

    There are a lot of examples of the U.S. government recognizing a different government as the legitimate ruler of a territory than the one actually running things on the ground. For example, the U.S. government recognizes South Ossetia to be part of Georgia, even though it hasn’t been part of Georgia for a quarter of a century.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Abkhazia_and_South_Ossetia

    But that’s different from the West Bank where, as far as I can tell, the United States doesn’t recognize anybody as being in charge:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

    “President Barack Obama declared U.S. opposition to the bid in his speech to the General Assembly, saying that “genuine peace can only be realised between Israelis and Palestinians themselves” and that “[u]ltimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians – not us – who must reach an agreement on the issues that divide them”.[344] Obama told Abbas that they would veto any United Nations Security Council move to recognise Palestinian statehood.[345]”

    The U.S. strategy is to use the prospect of recognition of some kind of Palestinian state as a carrot for the Palestinians and a stick for the Israelis to induce cooperation.

    But not much has happened over the years.

    • Replies: @Gabriel M
    Cooperation with what? Suicide?
  135. @Lot
    Trump is moving up in the polls, it would be great to see his foreign policy team.

    I don't agree with this point in the article:

    You may wonder how the Communist Party can continue to rule in China, despite all the catastrophes of the Maoist years. It’s because the Chinese feel that, horrible as the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward were, at least Mao threw out the foreign devils.
     
    I think the Chinese are very open to low levels of immigration from high-skill countries. The reason they tolerate the communist government is that it has delivered consistant economic growth of 7-10% since the 1980's.

    The Chinese government also showed preference to non-Han minorities. The one-child policy only applied to the Han, for instance.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The Chinese government also showed preference to non-Han minorities. The one-child policy only applied to the Han, for instance.
     
    It applied mainly to the cities. The non-Han were generally not welcome there.

    The ban on abortion in old South Africa applied to all races. But whites (and the better-off non-blacks) had access to loopholes, as well as the possibility of travel abroad. So in practice, unborn blacks were the most protected in the land.

    The National Party's policy was quite a contrast to the National Socialist's!
  136. @Jefferson
    "Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism."

    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children. Wanting to rub one out to your waifu is a different matter to walking around with a placard stating “Asian women are a story of bravery of love” which is not on the same level as staging love-ins with Yoko Ono.

    Btw in what is a horrible tragedy of the digital era, our tall placard holding white knight is no longer. It is a sad, sad day.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/the-obama-coalition-in-action.html

    Anyway, my point is that once you have mixed race children, you really have gone “all in” with multiculturalism. Maybe you have regrets and champion the race of your parents. But for every Derbyshire, there are probably 100 Zuckerbergs from what I have seen.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    The glory that is the Wayback Machine has preserved his memory.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20130606025155/http://media.ucla.s3.amazonaws.com/52455_rallyf.jpg


    https://web.archive.org/web/20130606025155/http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-obama-coalition-in-action.html
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I have a few friends who adopted non-white children. I agree that that commits them to anti-nationalist position. One friend has two Mexican adoptees--any talk of border security enrages him.
    , @Jefferson
    "Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children."

    I used to have an Asian girlfriend, a half Pinay and half Viet chick who I dated in community college.
  137. @theo the kraut
    we Euros can top Kerry easily:

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-15-5754_en.htm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14U5ZE-N2w

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_Timmermans (First Vice-President of the European Commission) on diversity, basically, diversity or war:

    The rise of islamophobia is the one of the biggest challenges in Europe. It is a challenge to our vital values, to the core of who we are.

    Never has our societies' capacity for openness, for tolerance, for inclusion been more tested than it is today.

    Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. Diversity comes with challenges. But diversity is humanity's destiny. There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future. That’s where humanity is heading. And those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture, are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed, therefore that future will never be.

    Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world will be diverse. The only question is, how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity. That will bring us down as a society.

    If we don’t get this right, I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom, for very long.
     

    The funny thing about Kerry’s speech is that he seems to be promising to the boys in the audience opportunities to rain war down upon foreigners and to the girls in the audience opportunities to nurture foreigners.

    It’s pretty insane but it probably was popular with the 22-year-olds in the audience.

  138. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @ben tillman

    As for the readers on most alt-right sites, their understanding of politics and history is more or less derived in large part from a decades-long propaganda campaign waged by the establishment against socialism.
     
    That's poorly said. The establishment supports socialism (centralization of wealth in the hands of the state under the false pretense of distributing wealth fairly), and of course educated and powerless people are going to dislike this.

    As for Robert-Owen-style socialism, or class cooperation, or voluntary yet essentially obligatory sharing of wealth, no one ever talks about it. Well, I guess I do, and Bowery's citizen's dividend funded by property taxes is in a similar vein, and D.S. Wilson and Matt Ridley and Christopher Boehm venture into that territory.

    But why don't you start by defining your terms. What do you mean by "socialism"?

    But why don’t you start by defining your terms. What do you mean by “socialism”?

    no, sorry, I am not really interested in the definition of socialism…I am interested in what happened in the past and how it affects the present and the future….there was a propaganda war against what was called socialism, and that war has echoes in the present…that war and its echoes have molded and shaped minds of present day americans…and those minds are now readers to be harvested, clicks on the internet…and the reactions of those minds to certain words and ideas are taken into account by those who write about politics…politically oriented writers who seek clicks avoid certain ideas in order to attract those minds…this is reality…but the reality of the present shapes the future…these are my areas of interest…

  139. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Daniel Williams

    ... for the most part, the readers on this site –and simlar sites– have a certain set of knowledge and reactions to certain phrases and ideas. Just like the readers on liberal sites have similar sets of knowledge and programmed reactions to certain ideas and phrases.
     
    Thank goodness you're here, then. We duds have needed a visionary to lead us for far too long—the battle was almost lost without you!

    But don't bash Trump too much. I see him as sort of a John the Baptist type, prefiguring your arrival. Or maybe he's a hype man, pumping up the crowd for when you reveal the real truth about immigration and wages—the truth only Ted Cruz dared speak.

    I mean, unless you count all those Rubenstein and Borjas articles Pete Brimelow's been publishing for years...

    But don’t bash Trump too much. I see him as sort of a John the Baptist type, prefiguring your arrival. Or maybe he’s a hype man, pumping up the crowd for when you reveal the real truth about immigration and wages—the truth only Ted Cruz dared speak.

    more like the other way around–I would like to think that trump was influenced by those few on vdare who discussed immigration in the context of labor vs capital…yes, I think that trump understands immigration in a labor vs capital context, but I suspect he is heeding the taboo in that regard…I am not sure why he is doing so, though…

    I mean, unless you count all those Rubenstein and Borjas articles Pete Brimelow’s been publishing for years…

    Or maybe I published on vdare re labor vs capital before rubenstein and borjas did so (but not before kirkpatrick and collins)…don’t bet against it…I was on vdare many many years ago…and more than once…

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    more like the other way around–I would like to think that trump was influenced by those few on vdare who discussed immigration in the context of labor vs capital…yes, I think that trump understands immigration in a labor vs capital context, but I suspect he is heeding the taboo in that regard…I am not sure why he is doing so, though…
     
    I believe this point deserves further development: trump started out attacking immigration from a security/terrorism angle. And he has so far maintained that tack--at least for the most part; he did however briefly attack h1b visas (and even suggested a moratorium on them during one of the debates). But for the most part trump has attacked immigration from the security/terrorism angle. And so did cruz--for the most part...until the final debate, when he unleashed the kraken of labor vs capital...to no avail, at it turned out...the media and the alt-right ecosystem both ignored that angle...

    But i do believe that in order to win the general election that trump has to attack immigration from a labor vs capital angle. He has to go after the h1b visa. That is how he can steal voters from the Dems. All these younger people who are working in white collar jobs, especially tech related jobs...or those who have their eyes on a career in tech fields....

    Trump can steal some of these votes with a labor vs capital attack on immigration...and such an attack would heal some of the wounds of conservative vs liberal polarization among white americans...which is one reason why I focus on the labor vs capital aspect of immigration....liberal dogma still contains an implicit understanding the labor vs capital paradigm....

    by focusing on immigration in the labor vs capital context, it may be possible to reunite white liberals and white conservatives in a radical center movement....this is where trump needs to go in the general election...a radical centrist movement attacking immigration in a labor vs capital context.....

    if he does so, it would be a landslide...but to do so, he has to adopt some of the speech patterns of the white collar, college educated cohort...I do believe that he can speak in that realm, just as obama used his white voice and his black voice to build his coalition in 2008....we heard some of trump's college-educated voice in his indiana victory speech...I think we will see more of it after the GOP convention...
  140. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @gda
    Can you damn a man because of his upbringing among the hard-working construction workers of NY, who shaped the way he grew up and how he expresses himself when challenged or when engaged in "male talk"? That's skirting on racism, I think. It's certainly culturalism, which is just as bad.

    I predict all this will just make Trump more popular. Again.

    Can you damn a man because of his upbringing among the hard-working construction workers of NY, who shaped the way he grew up and how he expresses himself when challenged or when engaged in “male talk”? That’s skirting on racism, I think. It’s certainly culturalism, which is just as bad.

    I predict all this will just make Trump more popular. Again.

    yes, I agree completely. Trumpism is in large part a triumph of the speech rhythms of blue collar white males–the vocabulary, diction, phrasing, etc…a triumph of blue collar speech patterns over the speech patterns of the college educated, in particular, the speech patterns of the ivy league grads that have dominated washington and the media for lo these many years….

    what was it that one of trump backers on tv said? The actor who played Chachi on Happy Days and Joanie Loves Chachi (oh, the fine wine of the late 70 and 80s…)…he said on tv that trump “talks like I do,” and that this was one of the reasons he liked trump…yes, exactly…trump took on the speech patterns of his father…who came up blue collar (remember that his father fred was apparently arrested during a KKK rally in the 1920s…so fred was a knockabout sort of guy…)…the revolt of the demonized white males defines trumpism…and their speech patterns are coming along for the ride…

  141. @anon
    The globalists are evil.

    They're trying to turn the entire world into a giant slave plantation.

    “They’re trying to turn the entire world into a giant slave plantation.”

    Or a farm on which we are the beasts. Ensure there’s enough diversity for no one group to be a threat. Divide and rule.

  142. @Anonym
    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children. Wanting to rub one out to your waifu is a different matter to walking around with a placard stating "Asian women are a story of bravery of love" which is not on the same level as staging love-ins with Yoko Ono.

    Btw in what is a horrible tragedy of the digital era, our tall placard holding white knight is no longer. It is a sad, sad day.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/the-obama-coalition-in-action.html

    Anyway, my point is that once you have mixed race children, you really have gone "all in" with multiculturalism. Maybe you have regrets and champion the race of your parents. But for every Derbyshire, there are probably 100 Zuckerbergs from what I have seen.

  143. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Leftist conservative

    But don’t bash Trump too much. I see him as sort of a John the Baptist type, prefiguring your arrival. Or maybe he’s a hype man, pumping up the crowd for when you reveal the real truth about immigration and wages—the truth only Ted Cruz dared speak.

     

    more like the other way around--I would like to think that trump was influenced by those few on vdare who discussed immigration in the context of labor vs capital...yes, I think that trump understands immigration in a labor vs capital context, but I suspect he is heeding the taboo in that regard...I am not sure why he is doing so, though...


    I mean, unless you count all those Rubenstein and Borjas articles Pete Brimelow’s been publishing for years…

     

    Or maybe I published on vdare re labor vs capital before rubenstein and borjas did so (but not before kirkpatrick and collins)...don't bet against it...I was on vdare many many years ago...and more than once...

    more like the other way around–I would like to think that trump was influenced by those few on vdare who discussed immigration in the context of labor vs capital…yes, I think that trump understands immigration in a labor vs capital context, but I suspect he is heeding the taboo in that regard…I am not sure why he is doing so, though…

    I believe this point deserves further development: trump started out attacking immigration from a security/terrorism angle. And he has so far maintained that tack–at least for the most part; he did however briefly attack h1b visas (and even suggested a moratorium on them during one of the debates). But for the most part trump has attacked immigration from the security/terrorism angle. And so did cruz–for the most part…until the final debate, when he unleashed the kraken of labor vs capital…to no avail, at it turned out…the media and the alt-right ecosystem both ignored that angle…

    But i do believe that in order to win the general election that trump has to attack immigration from a labor vs capital angle. He has to go after the h1b visa. That is how he can steal voters from the Dems. All these younger people who are working in white collar jobs, especially tech related jobs…or those who have their eyes on a career in tech fields….

    Trump can steal some of these votes with a labor vs capital attack on immigration…and such an attack would heal some of the wounds of conservative vs liberal polarization among white americans…which is one reason why I focus on the labor vs capital aspect of immigration….liberal dogma still contains an implicit understanding the labor vs capital paradigm….

    by focusing on immigration in the labor vs capital context, it may be possible to reunite white liberals and white conservatives in a radical center movement….this is where trump needs to go in the general election…a radical centrist movement attacking immigration in a labor vs capital context…..

    if he does so, it would be a landslide…but to do so, he has to adopt some of the speech patterns of the white collar, college educated cohort…I do believe that he can speak in that realm, just as obama used his white voice and his black voice to build his coalition in 2008….we heard some of trump’s college-educated voice in his indiana victory speech…I think we will see more of it after the GOP convention…

  144. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Gabriel M
    There's nothing weird about it when you consider the basic contextual facts.

    1) Until 1967 the West Bank was administered by Jordan, which is therefore the state that, according to international law, has prior claim.
    2) Jordan foreswares any such claim, but states that the West Bank belongs to the state of Palestine, which doesn't exist and has never existed.
    3) Until 1967 Palestinian nationalist movements foreswore any claim to the West Bank and stated that their future state would exist within the 1948 borders of Israel.
    4) Palestinian nationalists have stated repeatedly that their post 1967 claim to the West Bank is a ruse to destroy Israel. (documentation required if necessary).

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel, but supports the creation of a country that has no purpose and has never had any purpose other than to destroy Israel.

    But the point isn't to understand, the point is to play dumb and give the wink so that if you ever make it back into the mainstream you can pretend that all the Holocaust deniers you've been letting play on your blog for the last decade had nothing to do with you guv.

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel, but supports the creation of a country that has no purpose and has never had any purpose other than to destroy Israel

    I would suppose that the Palestinian Arabs need a place to live, don’t they? Or are they supposed to just vanish into thin air as you seem to prefer?

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel,

    You sound skeptical with your use of the word “claims”. Hasn’t the US supported Israel up to the hilt all these years? Or perhaps you feel it hasn’t done enough for Israel?

    • Replies: @Gabriel M

    I would suppose that the Palestinian Arabs need a place to live, don’t they? Or are they supposed to just vanish into thin air as you seem to prefer?
     
    Well, they could live in Jordan, as they did from 1948-1967. Or they could live under Israeli occupation as they did from 1967-1995 (when the West Bank was the most economically vibrant part of the Middle East), or they could live under the control of the Palestinian Authority under the military control of Israel as they have since 1995 (since which time it has reverted to a typical Arab slum). Or they could live somewhere else. But they can't have a Palestinian State in the West Bank since the sole purpose of this state is to attack Israel.

    You sound skeptical with your use of the word “claims”. Hasn’t the US supported Israel up to the hilt all these years? Or perhaps you feel it hasn’t done enough for Israel?
     
    The U.S. collaborated with a small coterie of extreme Leftists in Israel to formulate the Oslo accords, the goal of which was to destroy Zionism and turn Israel into a "state of all its citizens". They then persuaded the Centre Left in Israel to implement these accords as a "peace process", as a consequence of which thousands of Israelis have died, there have been more wars than before, and the Israeli economy is burdened by having to have a security guard outside every moderately large shop. America gives an annual bribe to the Israeli government not to reverse the Oslo accords to keep Saudi Arabia happy. So if by "back" you mean "harm", then, yes, I agree.
  145. @Gabriel M

    All land except the South Pole and (on paper) the West Bank and the Golan Heights is divided up under the dominion of territorial states.

     

    Steve Sailer just cannot help his atavistic, nihilistic anti-Israel dog whistling. It's almost Pavlovian at this point.

    1 minute on google is enough to find out which parts of the world are currently under military occupation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_occupations

    Turns out Steve's favourite country Russia is pretty prominent.

    “Turns out Steve’s favourite country Russia is pretty prominent.”

    Steve’s favorite country is America. What’s yours? Shall we guess?

    • Replies: @Gabriel M
    My favourite country is Israel, where I live.
  146. @Anon
    Actually, the right is motivated by common sense. You can't invite millions of people to your party without them eating all the cake and leaving none of it for you.

    The right understands Thomas Malthus. The left doesn't. The left thinks government can just spend forever without any problem. The left thinks it can invite the entire world's poor to their own lands without the welfare state collapsing.

    The left has frogs-boiling-in-a-pot syndrome. The middle-class standard of living has been eroding since the 1980s, and left is in denial about this. Since the 80s, housing prices have shot sky-high in many areas. Cars are a lot more expensive to pay for in proportion to your income. The cost of college has gone sky-high. Medical care and premiums is sky-high. All of these things would be cheaper without the large wave of immigration from Mexico and other Hispanic countries that started in the 1980s.

    The left deliberately refuses to understand any of this. They fight their utmost to avoid connecting the dots. Altruism is the only thing that makes a leftist feel good. They must repeat their mantra over and over, "I'm a good person, I really am; I'm a good person, I really am," because if they ever let that stop, they'd go into psychological collapse.

    The left operates like an idiot who's racked up a ton of credit card debt and whose brain goes all fuzzy when you ask the blockhead how he's going to pay it off, because he doesn't want to stop spending because it feels so good. The denial is profound.

    The left deliberately refuses to understand any of this. They fight their utmost to avoid connecting the dots. Altruism is the only thing that makes a leftist feel good.

    There’s an important distinction to be made between liberals and leftists. Altruism makes liberals feel good; aggression or destruction makes leftists feel good.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  147. @cwhatfuture
    The only border that really exists, the only one Kerry wants to keep, is that of Martha's Vineyard. No refugees settled there. No Latin American peasants pouring in there (unless brought as a nanny). Kerry does not suffer what he wishes to inflict on us and he is too stupid and arrogant to even notice.

    Not quite. The Vineyard has been pretty multi culti for a while.

    http://www.blackpast.org/aah/inkwell-martha-s-vineyard-1890s

    The service class on the Vineyard, and on tonier Nantucket to a lesser extent, has morphed from Irish and Eastern European in the 1990s to Brazilian/Jamaican/Central American.

    The only border Kerry wants to recognize is the one between Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/sen_john_kerry_docks_new_boat.html

  148. @Anonym
    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children. Wanting to rub one out to your waifu is a different matter to walking around with a placard stating "Asian women are a story of bravery of love" which is not on the same level as staging love-ins with Yoko Ono.

    Btw in what is a horrible tragedy of the digital era, our tall placard holding white knight is no longer. It is a sad, sad day.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/the-obama-coalition-in-action.html

    Anyway, my point is that once you have mixed race children, you really have gone "all in" with multiculturalism. Maybe you have regrets and champion the race of your parents. But for every Derbyshire, there are probably 100 Zuckerbergs from what I have seen.

    I have a few friends who adopted non-white children. I agree that that commits them to anti-nationalist position. One friend has two Mexican adoptees–any talk of border security enrages him.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I have a few friends who adopted non-white children. I agree that that commits them to anti-nationalist position. One friend has two Mexican adoptees–any talk of border security enrages him."

    Is it not possible that this is one of the intentions behind the promotion of cross-cultural adoptions?
    , @Anonym
    It enrages me that my children, some of whom will likely be smart enough to study medicine, may be locked out of such professions by the wave of tiger mothers we have admitted. It enrages me that I will need to have various talks with my kids about who is safe to trust and who isn't, neighborhoods etc. All the while having to endure constant brainwashing from the TV and school that we should trust all non-whites and that they are all our friends.

    It enrages me that European history and mythology is being Orwellianly retconned to feature nonwhites at every opportunity, especially youth programming.

    I hope I am not alone. I don't think I am but IRL I don't say as much that is for sure. I definitely say more than I used to.
    , @Golan Globus
    Yes you also see this with parents of mixed race children.
  149. @Anonymous
    "Trump's past crude sex talk collides with White House bid "

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/from-playboy-to-president-trumps-past-behavior-collides-with-his-white-house-bid/2016/05/09/46bed6f8-12fe-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

    “You could’ve gotten her, right?” Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997. “You could’ve nailed her.”

    “I think I could have,” Trump said.

    How about singer Mariah Carey? “Would you bang her?” Stern asked. Trump replied, “I would do it without hesitation.”

    Trump’s crude talk on-air with Stern between 1990 and 2005 was part of an image the businessman cultivated as a Manhattan playboy who had so many women that he barely had time to sleep. He was often seen at trendy nightclubs with different women, appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, wrote in his books about all the women chasing him and publicly boasted about his sex life.

    ...

    When asked by Playboy magazine in 2004 about Viagra, Trump boasted: “I just have never needed it.” He went on to say that what he really needed was an “anti-Viagra, something with the opposite effect.”

    “I’m not bragging,” he bragged. “I’m just lucky.”

    ...

    Some of Trump’s most raw language came during his appearances with Stern, when the two would critique women’s looks.

    The BuzzFeed list included one clip in which Trump said: “Her boob job is terrible. They look like two light posts coming out of a body.” In another clip, Trump said, “A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.”

    Stern had a huge national audience and made a name for himself with off-color questions, like this one, to Trump: “Is oral sex important to you? Man to man, and I’ve had this discussion with many men.”

    Trump responded, “No, it’s not important to me.”
     

    Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997.

    To be fair to Lady Di’s virtue – she only ever had 2 lovers in her life – Prince Charles and the British Army…

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    Aren't you forgetting her Egyptian paramour?

    http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/23-20.htm
  150. @Priss Factor
    "Northeastern is NOT an elite university. It is maybe the #6 ranked university in Boston."

    It is an elite university.
    It's not super-elite, but it has pretty high ranking.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University#Admissions

    "For the class enrolling fall 2013, Forbes placed Northeastern 35th in "The Top 100 Colleges Ranked By SAT Scores""

    35 is pretty good.

    Northeastern would be a respected private institution in most locales, but in Boston it’s a safety school. Its big selling point is its robust and successful co-op program.

  151. @RadicalCenter
    But the Guns 'n Roses version, please.

    Slash or Buckethead on guitar?

  152. @Anonym
    John Kerry is 72. I guess Donald Trump is 69, but the difference in being alive from the neck up between the two is incredible. Kerry is now a doddering old man. He should be spending his time on the golf course and puttering around in the garden. Any regaling of how he thinks the world works should best be confined to the dining table during the holidays. Why is he still in public office?

    Wanting to render STEM (and all other) jobs worthless through open borders... just what college grads want to hear. I agree with a Takimag commenter that you can sense the fear of Trump in Kerry's address. He is so out of touch. DJT is going to win in a landslide if this is the best the Democrats can offer.

    My opinion of John Kerry was finally crystallized by this incident, in which he (except for a few ineffectual mumblings) failed to intervene:

    OK, the student was being a pain, but the response was wildly disproportionate, something one might expect in a police state – which, under Mr Heinz and his pals, the USA seems to have become.

  153. @Harry Baldwin
    I have a few friends who adopted non-white children. I agree that that commits them to anti-nationalist position. One friend has two Mexican adoptees--any talk of border security enrages him.

    “I have a few friends who adopted non-white children. I agree that that commits them to anti-nationalist position. One friend has two Mexican adoptees–any talk of border security enrages him.”

    Is it not possible that this is one of the intentions behind the promotion of cross-cultural adoptions?

  154. @Jefferson
    "Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism."

    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    Same here, but I’d prefer Bingbing Li.

  155. Similarly, Kerry brought up the smartphone-equipped flash mobs of migrants besieging the West, but as a reason not to defend our borders

    Yes, about that. Googly translated from Norwegian:

    New requirements for emergency [refugee shelters]: Must have good wireless internet
    Many reacted when asylum seekers last autumn demonstrated against poor internet connection. Now UDI [immigration agency] will require it for new emergency [shelters]. (5.10.16)

    Whoever is managing and making money of the cellphone infrastructure in Syria or in the Sahara must be prosecuted. And everyone responsible for letting them patch in on the international lines.

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    So there.

  156. @Anonymous
    Where does John Kerry live?

    I mean, in which particular American neighborhood is his no doubt salubrious residence located?
    What are the demographics of that neighborhood?

    Surely, if John Kerry loved the delights of 'multiculturalism' and a 'border less world' he would choose to locate himself and his family in one of America's more diverse neighborhoods.
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    89.7% White + Asian. If "white" includes Hispanic whites, it doesn't add up to 100%, so I assume it means non-Hispanic whites. (But they don't say!)

    I strongly suspect, though, that those 5.2% who are "Hispanic or [sic] Latino" tend heavily toward the Univision/Telemundo/telenovela variety of Hispanic. Likewise, "Asian" probably doesn't refer to Cambodians and Philippines.

    Unless it's the live-in maids. But Beacon and Back Bay homes are expensive, not necessarily spacious. They'd get transit passes, not quarters.
  157. @Steve Sailer
    Nah, the West Bank really is in a weird diplomatic limbo of pretty much its own according to the U.S. government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_the_Palestinian_territories

    There are a lot of examples of the U.S. government recognizing a different government as the legitimate ruler of a territory than the one actually running things on the ground. For example, the U.S. government recognizes South Ossetia to be part of Georgia, even though it hasn't been part of Georgia for a quarter of a century.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Abkhazia_and_South_Ossetia

    But that's different from the West Bank where, as far as I can tell, the United States doesn't recognize anybody as being in charge:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

    "President Barack Obama declared U.S. opposition to the bid in his speech to the General Assembly, saying that "genuine peace can only be realised between Israelis and Palestinians themselves" and that "[u]ltimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians – not us – who must reach an agreement on the issues that divide them".[344] Obama told Abbas that they would veto any United Nations Security Council move to recognise Palestinian statehood.[345]"

    The U.S. strategy is to use the prospect of recognition of some kind of Palestinian state as a carrot for the Palestinians and a stick for the Israelis to induce cooperation.

    But not much has happened over the years.

    Cooperation with what? Suicide?

  158. @Brutusale
    Beacon Hill, Boston demographics:

    http://boston.blacksoftware.com/statistics/stats-backbay_beaconhill.pdf

    89.7% White + Asian. If “white” includes Hispanic whites, it doesn’t add up to 100%, so I assume it means non-Hispanic whites. (But they don’t say!)

    I strongly suspect, though, that those 5.2% who are “Hispanic or [sic] Latino” tend heavily toward the Univision/Telemundo/telenovela variety of Hispanic. Likewise, “Asian” probably doesn’t refer to Cambodians and Philippines.

    Unless it’s the live-in maids. But Beacon and Back Bay homes are expensive, not necessarily spacious. They’d get transit passes, not quarters.

  159. @NickG

    Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997.
     
    To be fair to Lady Di's virtue - she only ever had 2 lovers in her life - Prince Charles and the British Army...

    Aren’t you forgetting her Egyptian paramour?

    http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/23-20.htm

  160. @Hapalong Cassidy
    The Chinese government also showed preference to non-Han minorities. The one-child policy only applied to the Han, for instance.

    The Chinese government also showed preference to non-Han minorities. The one-child policy only applied to the Han, for instance.

    It applied mainly to the cities. The non-Han were generally not welcome there.

    The ban on abortion in old South Africa applied to all races. But whites (and the better-off non-blacks) had access to loopholes, as well as the possibility of travel abroad. So in practice, unborn blacks were the most protected in the land.

    The National Party’s policy was quite a contrast to the National Socialist’s!

  161. @Leftist conservative
    steve sailer wrote:

    Nationalism actually works pretty well. Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?
     
    That paragraph is a great example of why the Democrats and GOP are still even in the game. Populist Nationalism would have run roughshod over Dems and GOPe if paragraphs like the above were to be exposed as the flaccid, risible nonsense. And it's everywhere among the Dissident Right/Alt Right. That paragraph is Everything Bad about the Dissident Right/Alt Right. Not the first sentence, though. It is the second sentence that is bad. "Do we want to toss away today’s hard-earned world order out of Kerry-level boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought?"

    So Sailer is saying that the Establishment, the Dems, the GOPe, hollywood, academia, the churches, etc, every aspect of institutional america, all of which are backing open-borders, do so only out of boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought? Ooh...oh...talk about shallowness of thought....so wrong.....so wrong....man...where do I start? To quote john kasich, jeez, oh man!

    So the entire establishment just randomly seized upon open borders out of boredom? And it became a fad? Holy moly. THAT is why the Alt-right/dissident-right is not dominant in america, and is instead a mere curiosity.

    You know, ted cruz, in the last desperate month or so of his campaign, actually spoke directly to one of the real primary reasons why the Establishment loves open borders. I think he may have actually mentioned it in the final GOP debate. Or perhaps it was during one of his stump speeches or press conferences during that general time frame. Well, the rationale he gave for open borders/mass immigration/ illegal immigration was that it depressed american wages. And when said that, I knew right away that it was the most prominent connection between immigration and wages that I had ever heard. Never before, as far as I can recall, had the connection between immigration and wages ever been given such a high profile mention.

    And drilling even deeper down, it can be said that immigration is all about corporate profits.
    It is really about Capital versus Labor, when it comes right down to it.

    But as soon as I heard cruz say that, I knew that this connection would disappear like a fart in a hurricane, like a pebble dropped into the Marianas Trench. And sure enough, it did. Now, vdare and steve sailer and ann coulter and taki and all the rest of the alt-right/dissident right should have seized upon that mention, that connection. But I knew it would disappear. And it did. Nary a peep from the alt-right about cruz making the connection between immigration and wages. The alt right SHOULD HAVE seized upon that connection and forced trump to take up this connection as well. But the alt right did nothing.

    But why?

    Because bloggers and pundits play to their audience. And they don't want to alienate their audience. Talking about mass immigration in the context of capital versus labor would trigger the word association triggers of their audience---a capital vs labor word association would trigger the Socialism Subroutines of their readers. It all works off of word association triggers and subroutines placed in the mind via propaganda.

    Anyhoo....kerry and the rest of the establishment seized upon open borders because...oh, just a random choice...they were bored and said, hey, let's push for open borders! Just for fun! That's the way the establishment works....whimsical and carefree....

    Your autism has been duly noted, LeftistConservative.

    Make this day great again!

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  162. @Pat Hannagan
    That's very interesting.

    I stayed for a couple of weeks at the home of a Vietnam vet in America many years ago and he said to me that Australians are socialists, that even our conservative party was socialist by American standards. What's more he pretty much equated socialism with Communism. At his family gatherings I went to this topic came up pretty often, pretty much like I was some sort of bizarre representative of the USSR. So, yeah, ever since then I've been aware that Yanks really do have this notion of socialism as next to Satan, as you put it.

    But I don't reckon that's why Sailer puts these nation wrecking policies down as merely stemming from "boredom, faddishness, and shallowness of thought". I think it has more to being civil. That's another thing that was startling about Yanks, their astounding civility. The White Yanks were so polite and civil that after a while it felt like it was a perverse form of relentless evil masquerading as niceness, but they were genuine!

    It would be confrontingly discourteous to point the finger at a person or peoples and accuse them of a deliberate policy of nation wrecking. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" would be the polite way of approaching these topics for the civil American.

    But, even if one does obviously know that Hanlon's razor can't be right there is also the matter of once you start pointing the bone and do blame certain people or peoples for deliberately setting about to wreck one's nation, then you're now in the territory of manifesto writing. The blog would no longer be blogging, or noticing, but rather a political platform, sides would be taken, people lost etc. All reasonable enough.

    Personally, I am very much into manifestos and intend to spend my retirement years writing several all firmly ensconced in a some hard to find bush bunker. Probably send out letter nail bombs too to all the Father Mulcahys of this world who slighted me in decades past, whose names I have carefully written down and stored for retribution. But, that's another story for a time far, far away...

    (PS. Sorry to talk about you behind your back, Steve, as if you've left the room for a minute.)

    “there is also the matter of once you start pointing the bone and do blame certain people or peoples for deliberately setting about to wreck one’s nation, then you’re now in the territory of manifesto writing. The blog would no longer be blogging, or noticing, but rather a political platform, sides would be taken, people lost etc.”

    Mr. Theresa Heinz-Kerry is not deliberately wrecking the US — he is increasing Democratic Party power by importing a new electorate, one that takes gibsmedats without compunction; in fact they take the gibs with PRIDE, because racism.

    And folks like Mr. Theresa Heinz-Kerry don’t believe HIS part of the former USA will be wrecked at all — he and his will live in luxe as they do now, while all those badwhites will get Diversity good, hard, and fast, which they’ll deserve because racism/sexism/homophobia [sic] and, of course, the biggest secular sin of all: voting Republican (ick!!!).

    That is the missing part of LeftistConservative’s (Make Unz Great Again) analysis — the naked, raw desire for power that consumes the corrupt hearts and minds of dudes like Mr. Theresa Heinz-Kerry.

  163. “Trump” – A Van Halen “Jump” Parody for the 2016 Campaign Season

    I called this one a while back. Kinda obvious though.

    Some of Trump’s most raw language came during his appearances with Stern, when the two would critique women’s looks.

    It’s funny that they think this will be shocking to Americans. It’s funny that they consider those Trump quotes “raw.” It’s just two guys talking the way guys talk. Not sure how “she’s hot,” “she’s not,” and “I don’t need viagra” is a big deal. Not least because the left prides itself on not being stuffy like the right; shouldn’t the left take this as evidence that Trump is their kind of guy? This thing where they act like proud deviants and perverts, then switch to Puritan mode to criticize the right, it’s kind of transparent in [the current year].

    Every time I read quotes of Trump’s supposed “misogyny” and the like, they wind up being totally normal behavior. Are they saving the good stuff for later, or do they just not have anything? Most people don’t begrudge even men the right to have opinions about someone’s sex appeal.

  164. @Mr. Anon
    "Turns out Steve’s favourite country Russia is pretty prominent."

    Steve's favorite country is America. What's yours? Shall we guess?

    My favourite country is Israel, where I live.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    No,.......really?
  165. Steve Sailer just cannot help his atavistic, nihilistic anti-Israel dog whistling. It’s almost Pavlovian at this point.

    Turnabout’s a bitch, innit?

  166. @anonymous

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel, but supports the creation of a country that has no purpose and has never had any purpose other than to destroy Israel
     
    I would suppose that the Palestinian Arabs need a place to live, don't they? Or are they supposed to just vanish into thin air as you seem to prefer?

    The only odd thing is that the American government claims to support Israel,
     
    You sound skeptical with your use of the word "claims". Hasn't the US supported Israel up to the hilt all these years? Or perhaps you feel it hasn't done enough for Israel?

    I would suppose that the Palestinian Arabs need a place to live, don’t they? Or are they supposed to just vanish into thin air as you seem to prefer?

    Well, they could live in Jordan, as they did from 1948-1967. Or they could live under Israeli occupation as they did from 1967-1995 (when the West Bank was the most economically vibrant part of the Middle East), or they could live under the control of the Palestinian Authority under the military control of Israel as they have since 1995 (since which time it has reverted to a typical Arab slum). Or they could live somewhere else. But they can’t have a Palestinian State in the West Bank since the sole purpose of this state is to attack Israel.

    You sound skeptical with your use of the word “claims”. Hasn’t the US supported Israel up to the hilt all these years? Or perhaps you feel it hasn’t done enough for Israel?

    The U.S. collaborated with a small coterie of extreme Leftists in Israel to formulate the Oslo accords, the goal of which was to destroy Zionism and turn Israel into a “state of all its citizens”. They then persuaded the Centre Left in Israel to implement these accords as a “peace process”, as a consequence of which thousands of Israelis have died, there have been more wars than before, and the Israeli economy is burdened by having to have a security guard outside every moderately large shop. America gives an annual bribe to the Israeli government not to reverse the Oslo accords to keep Saudi Arabia happy. So if by “back” you mean “harm”, then, yes, I agree.

  167. @dr kill
    Hey, did you know John Kerry served in Vietnam?

    …Yes, and he still has the hat.

  168. What more proof do we need than this speech by our own Secretary of State to show us once and for all that we are being screwed by the people running things.

    Kerry’s bald statements against our own sovereignty amount to a form of treason when spouted by a man in his position. This is the shameful truth.

    We are peasants ruled by a global elite. That is now established as fact. We do not have a country!

    • Agree: BB753
  169. Ryan Says Gaps Remain With Trump as Pair Pledge to Work Together

    Ryan seems almost as eager to position himself as kingmaker as the leftist media complex is to portray him that way. Trump should do everything he can to Cantor this guy.

    Ryan has been critical of Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. and is viewed as one more the moderate voices in his party on immigration

    That’s a flat-out lie. Ryan is an open-borders fanatic, with heavy emphasis on that word, “fanatic.”

    Ryan is moderate like Joe Stalin was.

  170. @Wilkey
    Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity.

    Is that why he has droned killed so many innocent Muslims?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "Is that why he has droned killed so many innocent Muslims?"

    And you think that Muslims don't kill other Muslims?
  171. @Jefferson
    "Fate has a wicked sense of humor, therefore the first big US city to have a Muslim mayor will be New York. One could argue that that US has already had a Muslim president, given that Obama is so much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity."

    Hussein Obama is certainly no Christian. He only attended a Christian church in Chicago to help advance his political career, not because he likes to read the bible on a regular basis and has accepted Jesus Christ as his lord & savior.

    No True Scotsman.

    Obama has not denied the divinity of Christ, unlike Jefferson and William H. Taft.

  172. @Jefferson
    "Lennon had a notably bad case of yellow fever. Sexual desires and the resultant products of miscegenation are often at the root of the push for open borders and anti-racism."

    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    Man, she’s way past her prime! Even older than Lucy Liu or Mia Carrere.

  173. @Harry Baldwin
    I have a few friends who adopted non-white children. I agree that that commits them to anti-nationalist position. One friend has two Mexican adoptees--any talk of border security enrages him.

    It enrages me that my children, some of whom will likely be smart enough to study medicine, may be locked out of such professions by the wave of tiger mothers we have admitted. It enrages me that I will need to have various talks with my kids about who is safe to trust and who isn’t, neighborhoods etc. All the while having to endure constant brainwashing from the TV and school that we should trust all non-whites and that they are all our friends.

    It enrages me that European history and mythology is being Orwellianly retconned to feature nonwhites at every opportunity, especially youth programming.

    I hope I am not alone. I don’t think I am but IRL I don’t say as much that is for sure. I definitely say more than I used to.

  174. @Harry Baldwin
    I have a few friends who adopted non-white children. I agree that that commits them to anti-nationalist position. One friend has two Mexican adoptees--any talk of border security enrages him.

    Yes you also see this with parents of mixed race children.

  175. @anon

    I “get” it when people identify neo-cons and globalists with Trotskyites, but at the same time I think it should be kept in mind that it’s not Communism they try to export
     
    Is that what Trotskyists really tried to export though?

    On the surface yes but I think a lot of the connection is simply personality; they *like* permanent revolution - for whatever purpose.

    … I think a lot of the connection is simply personality; they *like* permanent revolution – for whatever purpose.

    I think this is true. Permanent revolution feeds the dark part of human nature that enjoys smashing other people’s things and getting high on the feeling that one’s on the winning side of history.

  176. @Gabriel M
    My favourite country is Israel, where I live.

    No,…….really?

  177. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Permanent revolution feeds the dark part of human nature that enjoys smashing other people’s things and getting high on the feeling that one’s on the winning side of history.”

    It enables you to impress the girls with your Grand Revolutionary ardour and wink-wink that when you take over the tribe and run the place she’ll be the one that gets all the goodies. Chimps probably recognize the phenomena.

  178. @Mark F.
    Is that why he has droned killed so many innocent Muslims?

    “Is that why he has droned killed so many innocent Muslims?”

    And you think that Muslims don’t kill other Muslims?

  179. @WorkingClass
    Center is more accurate than right. But Trump is neither. Trump is a populist.

    “Centrist” in the sense of what are — or should be — non-controversial positions grounded in common sense. If anyone had run for Prez in 1976 with his major policy positions being 1) Secure our Southern border against a wave of illegal aliens, 2) Support our manufacturing base in order to maximize blue-collar employment, and 3) Don’t provoke a shooting war with Russia — people would have wondered exactly what point he was trying to make. “Sure, pal, and don’t forget that we need to breathe air and drink water, too. What’s your position on eating food?” Things that would have seemed axiomatic just a short time ago are now seen as too radical to be mentioned in polite society. This is why a Centrist can now be seen as a radical Nationalist/Populist in 2016.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Centrist” in the sense of what are — or should be — non-controversial positions grounded in common sense. If anyone had run for Prez in 1976 with his major policy positions being 1) Secure our Southern border against a wave of illegal aliens, 2) Support our manufacturing base in order to maximize blue-collar employment, and 3) Don’t provoke a shooting war with Russia — people would have wondered exactly what point he was trying to make. “Sure, pal, and don’t forget that we need to breathe air and drink water, too. What’s your position on eating food?” Things that would have seemed axiomatic just a short time ago are now seen as too radical to be mentioned in polite society. This is why a Centrist can now be seen as a radical Nationalist/Populist in 2016."

    Speaking of 1976, Bernie Sanders is the only 2016 presidential candidate from either party that was legally old enough to run for POTUS in 1976. The Bern could have challenged Jimmy Carter in 1976 for the Democratic nomination.
  180. @Anonym
    I have Yellow fever and I am not for open borders.

    I want the wall to be built and I want to bang Malaysian actress Michelle Yeoh.

    I seperate politics from sexual attraction.

    Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children. Wanting to rub one out to your waifu is a different matter to walking around with a placard stating "Asian women are a story of bravery of love" which is not on the same level as staging love-ins with Yoko Ono.

    Btw in what is a horrible tragedy of the digital era, our tall placard holding white knight is no longer. It is a sad, sad day.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/the-obama-coalition-in-action.html

    Anyway, my point is that once you have mixed race children, you really have gone "all in" with multiculturalism. Maybe you have regrets and champion the race of your parents. But for every Derbyshire, there are probably 100 Zuckerbergs from what I have seen.

    “Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children.”

    I used to have an Asian girlfriend, a half Pinay and half Viet chick who I dated in community college.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    A lot of people have had some sort of flirtation or experience outside their race. However, once they are to the point of marriage and especially the crystallized commitment of children, the die is cast regarding their support of an environment that will protect their children. Even if their children are less related to them than random white children on the street, if protecting their children means encouraging enough miscegenation to erase the bonds of unity amongst their own kin and reducing the demographic power of their kinfolk, that is what most of them will want.

    Derb of course appears to be exceptional.
  181. @SteveRogers42
    "Centrist" in the sense of what are -- or should be -- non-controversial positions grounded in common sense. If anyone had run for Prez in 1976 with his major policy positions being 1) Secure our Southern border against a wave of illegal aliens, 2) Support our manufacturing base in order to maximize blue-collar employment, and 3) Don't provoke a shooting war with Russia -- people would have wondered exactly what point he was trying to make. "Sure, pal, and don't forget that we need to breathe air and drink water, too. What's your position on eating food?" Things that would have seemed axiomatic just a short time ago are now seen as too radical to be mentioned in polite society. This is why a Centrist can now be seen as a radical Nationalist/Populist in 2016.

    “Centrist” in the sense of what are — or should be — non-controversial positions grounded in common sense. If anyone had run for Prez in 1976 with his major policy positions being 1) Secure our Southern border against a wave of illegal aliens, 2) Support our manufacturing base in order to maximize blue-collar employment, and 3) Don’t provoke a shooting war with Russia — people would have wondered exactly what point he was trying to make. “Sure, pal, and don’t forget that we need to breathe air and drink water, too. What’s your position on eating food?” Things that would have seemed axiomatic just a short time ago are now seen as too radical to be mentioned in polite society. This is why a Centrist can now be seen as a radical Nationalist/Populist in 2016.”

    Speaking of 1976, Bernie Sanders is the only 2016 presidential candidate from either party that was legally old enough to run for POTUS in 1976. The Bern could have challenged Jimmy Carter in 1976 for the Democratic nomination.

  182. @Jefferson
    "Sexual attraction is lower level than girlfriend which is lower level than wife/mother of your children."

    I used to have an Asian girlfriend, a half Pinay and half Viet chick who I dated in community college.

    A lot of people have had some sort of flirtation or experience outside their race. However, once they are to the point of marriage and especially the crystallized commitment of children, the die is cast regarding their support of an environment that will protect their children. Even if their children are less related to them than random white children on the street, if protecting their children means encouraging enough miscegenation to erase the bonds of unity amongst their own kin and reducing the demographic power of their kinfolk, that is what most of them will want.

    Derb of course appears to be exceptional.

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