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Max Boot: Trump ‘making me feel like a foreigner’ in my own country
By Melissa Mahtani and Catalina Gonella

Updated 1:56 PM ET, Sun December 3, 2017

(CNN) Author and foreign policy analyst Max Boot feels President Donald Trump is making him feel like a “foreigner” in his own country.

“He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

“Anything but kind of a normal mainstream American, because of the way that he is dividing us and balkanizing us and seems to be catering to this white nationalist agenda.” …

Boot said it was “especially chilling” to hear people like Steve Bannon and Steve Miller trying to change the character of the country by “saying we’re not a nation of immigrants.”

And now from Foreign Policy, Mr. Invade-the-World/Invite-the-World himself, Max Boot, announced that Trump’s election has opened his eyes to White Privilege:

2017 Was the Year I Learned About My White Privilege

I used to be a smart-alecky conservative who scoffed at “political correctness.” The Trump era has opened my eyes.

BY MAX BOOT | DECEMBER 27, 2017, 1:55 PM

Max Boot is the Jeane J. Kirkpatrick senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. His forthcoming book is “The Road Not Taken: Edward Lansdale and the American Tragedy in Vietnam.”

In college — this was in the late 1980s and early 1990s at the University of California, Berkeley — I used to be one of those smart-alecky young conservatives who would scoff at the notion of “white male privilege” and claim that anyone propagating such concepts was guilty of “political correctness.” As a Jewish refugee from the Soviet Union, I felt it was ridiculous to expect me to atone for the sins of slavery and segregation, to say nothing of the household drudgery and workplace discrimination suffered by women. I wasn’t racist or sexist. (Or so I thought.) I hadn’t discriminated against anyone. (Or so I thought.) My ancestors were not slave owners or lynchers; they were more likely victims of the pogroms.

I saw America as a land of opportunity, not a bastion of racism or sexism. I didn’t even think that I was a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….

That last sentence is just bizarre: if you are claiming that “white” is a “catchall category” that has been “extended” to “include everyone” … and then as your examples of apparent polar opposites you come up with a Mayflower WASP and an Irishman … huh? What is going on in Max Boot’s head?

I went to look up famous Mayflower descendants and found a list of eleven that includes Bing Crosby and Alec Baldwin, both of whom I’d assumed were Irish. If you showed me photos of obscure people from the two groups (and left out all the many overlaps) and asked me to guess Irish or WASP, I’m guessing I might be able to be right, say, 55% of the time, maybe 60% of the time with training. But not much higher than that.

Well, live and learn. A quarter century is enough time to examine deeply held shibboleths and to see if they comport with reality. … In the last few years, in particular, it has become impossible for me to deny the reality of discrimination, harassment, even violence that people of color and women continue to experience in modern-day America from a power structure that remains for the most part in the hands of straight, white males. People like me, in other words.

But not exactly like me.

Whether I realize it or not, I have benefitted from my skin color and my gender — and those of a different gender or sexuality or skin color have suffered because of it.

This sounds obvious, but it wasn’t clear to me until recently. I have had my consciousness raised..

… It is even more pernicious to cling to the conceit, so popular among Donald Trump’s supporters, that straight white men are the “true” victims because their unquestioned position of privilege is now being challenged by uppity women, gay people, and people of color.

The videos do not lie. One after another, we have seen the horrifying evidence on film of cops arresting, beating, even shooting black people who were doing absolutely nothing wrong or were stopped for trivial misconduct. ….

The larger problem of racism in our society was made evident in Donald Trump’s election, despite — or because of — his willingness to dog-whistle toward white nationalists with his pervasive bashing of Mexicans, Muslims, and other minorities. Trump even tried to delegitimize the first African-American president by claiming he wasn’t born in this country, and now he goes after African-American football players who kneel during the playing of the anthem to protest police brutality. …

“Trump defeated Clinton among white voters in every income category,” from those making less than $30,000 to those making more than $250,000. In other words, Serwer writes, Trump does not lead a “working-class coalition; it is a nationalist one.” That doesn’t mean that every Trump supporter is a racist; it does mean that Trump’s victory has revealed that racism and xenophobia are more widespread than I had previously realized.

 
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  1. Max Boot never saw a war in which he didn’t wish the U. S. to get involved. He is as politically correct as they come and has been since I began reading his work some years ago. He should be ashamed for these comments – love me, love me do…

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    • Replies: @cynthia curran
    Yeah, but most of the folks talking about White privilege are typically left wing anti-war types. The dude should think these folks didn't support the Vietnam war like David Horowitz does now. David Horowitz supports Trump.
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  2. Max Boot and the Neo-Cons push mass immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Max Boot is a member of the WASP/ Jew ruling class. The WASP / Jew ruling class has declared war on White Core America.

    Max Boot wants to continue to use the young soldiers of White Core America to fight wars on behalf of Israel in the Middle East and West Asia.

    Max Boot was a big backer of the Iraq War debacle that killed thousands of American soldiers and wounded tens of thousands more.

    Max Boot and his ilk must be removed from power.

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  3. The videos do not lie. One after another, we have seen the horrifying evidence on film of cops arresting, beating, even shooting people who were doing absolutely nothing wrong or were stopped for trivial misconduct

    Very brave of Mr. Boot to criticise Israel like this

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    LOL
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  4. they were more likely victims of the pogroms

    They were more likely commissars and NKVD officers systematically starving Russian and Ukrainian peasants during the Red Terror and collectivization.

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    • Replies: @bartok

    They were more likely commissars and NKVD officers systematically starving Russian and Ukrainian peasants during the Red Terror and collectivization.
     
    Don't forget destroying churches, churchmen and churchgoers, with extreme prejudice. While prosecuting anti-Semitism as a capital offense.

    You didn't dare say that Bolshevism was Jewish. 100 years later, you still don't dare say that Bolshevism is Jewish.
    , @Alden
    Couldn't agree more.

    There are, in the archives of most European countries, The USA, and most S. American countries reports from their diplomats stationed in Russia denying that any pogroms took place. The reports claim that the pogroms were just Jewish propaganda designed to:

    1. Scam money and help from Montefiore, Warurg, etc wealthy Jews.

    2. Facilitate migration to prosperous countries, such as S Africa, USA, Argentina etc

    Anyone who wants to dig around in our Library of Congress and State Department Archives is free to do so.
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  5. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Jewish Divide-and-Conquer tactics might set both sides against them.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
    And if whites are vilified, non-whites will come to see Jews as enemies since Jews are white.

    So far, Jews used white gentiles against Muslims, and then used Muslims + Diversity against whites.

    But if Jews keep blaming whites for everything, more whites will be ‘red-pilled’.
    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.
    Thus, Jews will get hate from both whites and non-whites. Whites will hate Jews for anti-white vitriol, and non-whites will hate Jews for being white.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They're completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It's much more likely that they'll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.
    , @Lurker
    You don't get expelled from 109 countries without learning a trick or two!
    , @CK
    And yet the world still wonders from what root does anti-Semitism grow.
    , @Moses

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
     
    Might?

    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.
     
    American history shows otherwise. Jews use the "White" label when it suits them (as Mr. Boot has done here) and discard it for the "Jewish" label to put distance between them and Whites when it suits them (as Mr. Boot has done here).
    , @dfordoom

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
     
    That won't happen because most white people are entirely unaware of Jewish animosity towards them. It does help when you have total control of the media, entertainment, academia and government.

    Whites might develop an awareness that they are getting screwed but they'll just assume it's all the fault of the Muslims because the Muslims are visible and obviously different.

    It would be nice to think that one day whites and Muslims will recognise that they have a common enemy but I wouldn't hold my breath. And when I say common enemy I mean the liberal elites, not Jews as such.
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  6. More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.

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    They would have been "rehabilitated" either way, because if Hillary had won, they would have just joined up with her. That's what Frum actually did. And when that happened, do you think the media would be even slightly critical about anything they did? I doubt it.

    That's one of the fascinating things about slime. You can crush it or cut it up or do whatever you want to it, but it still manages to go on being slime, no matter what.
    , @Bugg
    As to Frum, Boot, Goldberg, Kristol, Brooks, who exactly do they expect their market is for invade/invite/borrow from? There's nobody, it's a dead end. The Iraq war is dead weight forever. And they aren't really being rehabilitated, but being used by the Left to oppose Trump.

    Boot wasn't nearly as interested in real nor imagined inequity until Trump took office. And really he isn't all that interested now either. It's not like Boot has abandoned his desk at AEI to go work full time at an inner city soup kitchen like John Profumo. And spoiler alert, Mr. Boot; they hate your sorry white ass anyway.
    , @Michael Soeren
    In what sense is Boot being rehabilitated? His vicious, reptilian nature seems to emerge only in bolder relief. Did you see his "interview" (more shout-fest) on Tucker Carlson? You could almost see fangs!
    , @Gunner
    Lefties still hate these guys for supporting Dubya.
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  7. Oh, Trump has revealed deep-seated hatreds, alright. Just not the ones Max Boot thinks.

    I have always been lukewarm about Trump, but there’s no doubt that the Trump era has been enormously clarifying.

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    Maybe Trump's greatest service: polarizer/exposer/wheat from the chaff separator-in chief.
    The political landscape has been changed somewhat forever.
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  8. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Max Boot: Trump ‘making me feel like a foreigner’ in my own country

    He should thank Trump. After all, globalism is about no nation belonging to any people. Poland doesn’t belong to Poles. Poles shouldn’t feel at home in Poland or feel that Poland belongs to them. No, Poland must be filled with masses of foreigners and EVERYONE must be made to feel as a stranger.

    If America is a nation of foreigners coming as immigrants, then feeling ‘foreign’ is the new Americanism.

    Btw, what did he mean by ‘my own country’? It surely isn’t the traditional white nation that he emigrated to. Boot hates the idea of White America. So, did Boot mean a nation of ‘immigrants’? If so, why shouldn’t he feel like an outsider? If America is not a product but just a process where endless change is the real Americanism, then it’s only natural for everyone to feel like an outsider since they must, in turn, be replaced by newcomers.

    Of course, by ‘my country’, Boot means “our Jewish concept of America where we control Diversity to set gentiles against one another”. Trumpism interferes with that, but if Boot had any sense, he’d realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers. Do Jews feel more at home in Europe with all the non-white invasion?

    Boot grew up in Russia but didn’t feel home there. Now, he doesn’t feel home here. Maybe the problem is with him.

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    • Replies: @Iberiano
    You nailed it. Exactly. There has been a pervasive lack of "logical balance" in all things liberal/prog and cucky-right, for decades...you point this out, he claims one thing on one hand, without ownership of it's twin on the other.

    Kinda like liberals who allegedly see their view of the world as a sort of "religion", as cucks like to point out (as if to forgive them)...except, actual religion requires actual sacrifice...not meaningless virtue signaling.

    Boot's intellectual masturbation is cost free. He should move just to prove his point, of what a terribly racist society we have here.
    , @Miro23

    ... but if Boot had any sense, he’d realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers.
     
    It's not really a question of being a stranger or not. Judaism only survives because of its Chosen and self imposed "stranger" status. Boot knows this. If Jews integrated and became America First, Jewish organizations (and identity) would quickly wither away.

    It's really a question of power.

    Coordinated tribal action is best compared to the functioning of a wolf pack. Working as a pack beats being a lone wolf every time. A pack can spend days cooperating to hunt down their prey, and nowhere offers better hunting that the USA, with its great herds of confused and sick animals.

    However, the end game is probably domestication.

    Maybe it's the interesting image of Neo-Bolshevism presented in the film "The Hunger Games", with a totalitarian elite, living apart, and using a well rewarded group of corrupt local collaborators to divide the state into separate work/prison camps, and set them at each other's throats ( "entertainment") while they live in extreme luxury and devise yet more exciting Games.
    , @guest
    Your post is an example of Noticing Overload. I'm sure if Boot could bring himself to read and understand it, the mask would slip, and his true, demonic face would shoot a death-glare at you. Which if you're not pure of heart would melt you into a puddle.

    The simpler way to say it, without all the America as the world's foremost non-nation nation guff, is that Max Boot feels like a foreigner because he is a foreigner. Duh.
    , @The True and Original David
    "Boot grew up in Russia but didn’t feel home there. Now, he doesn’t feel home here. Maybe the problem is with him."

    Bingo.

    By the way, Max Boot isn't his real name. It's an odd, chest-beating choice of nom de guerre. One is reminded of this quote from Orwell's _1984_:

    "If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever."

    Is that what this baleful subversive was referencing?

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  9. anon • Disclaimer says:

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    “Anything but kind of a normal mainstream American

    I feel so bad for him. After all, as a normal, mainstream American, one of the defining moments in my life was the time I was named one of the 500 most influential people in the United States in the field of foreign policy, and used my influence to help get the United States involved in a disastrous war. That’s a rite of passage for us normal, mainstream Americans. Like buying your first car or going to the prom.

    Whether I realize it or not, I have benefitted from my skin color and my gender — and those of a different gender or sexuality or skin color have suffered because of it.

    I don’t know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called “Savage Wars Of Peace”, which is a line from “White Man’s Burden”.

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    I don’t know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called “Savage Wars Of Peace”, which is a line from “White Man’s Burden”.
     
    Since Maxie's a Kipling fan, perhaps he should familiarize himself with this one:

    The Stranger


    The Stranger within my gate,
    He may be true or kind,
    But he does not talk my talk--
    I cannot feel his mind.
    I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
    But not the soul behind.

    The men of my own stock,
    They may do ill or well,
    But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
    They are used to the lies I tell;
    And we do not need interpreters
    When we go to buy or sell.

    The Stranger within my gates,
    He may be evil or good,
    But I cannot tell what powers control--
    What reasons sway his mood;
    Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
    Shall repossess his blood.

    The men of my own stock,
    Bitter bad they may be,
    But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
    And see the things I see;
    And whatever I think of them and their likes
    They think of the likes of me.


    This was my father's belief
    And this is also mine:
    Let the corn be all one sheaf--
    And the grapes be all one vine,
    Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
    By bitter bread and wine.
    , @Cagey Beast
    I don’t know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called “Savage Wars Of Peace”, which is a line from “White Man’s Burden”.

    In 1977 Alistair Horne published a very well-known book with the same title on the French war in Algeria. Anyone in Max Boot's profession would have been familiar with Horne's book. Apparently Boot liked the title, so he took it.

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  10. “Trump defeated Clinton among white voters in every income category,” from those making less than $30,000 to those making more than $250,000. In other words, Serwer writes, Trump does not lead a “working-class coalition; it is a nationalist one.”

    I’m guessing that Boot’s only real objection to the idea of a “nationalist coalition” concerns the fact that this national coalition is composed of White Christians. If, on the other hand, we were talking about a “Jewish nationalist coalition” in Israel…..

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    I’m guessing that Boot’s only real objection to the idea of a “nationalist coalition” concerns the fact that this national coalition is composed of White Christians.
     
    Read this tweet from one of Boot's friends, Jamie Kirchick:


    Trump "is the candidate of the mob, and the mob always ends up turning on the Jews." -- Me, @tabletmag, March 2016
     
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  11. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Bay Area Guy
    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.

    They would have been “rehabilitated” either way, because if Hillary had won, they would have just joined up with her. That’s what Frum actually did. And when that happened, do you think the media would be even slightly critical about anything they did? I doubt it.

    That’s one of the fascinating things about slime. You can crush it or cut it up or do whatever you want to it, but it still manages to go on being slime, no matter what.

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    What if you burn it?
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  12. Going a little bit off topic, people like Max Boot openly call for war all over the world, yet the likes of him never have to worry about violating Twitters “calls for violence” rules.

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  13. I used to be a smart-alecky conservative

    Hmm… “conservative”. Maybe a chat on a psychoanalyst’s couch about improper usage of political categories is in order?

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant”

    Somehow the scene where Yuri witnesses the hit in Little Odessa and decides to go into the small arms business while meditating over a spent casing of Soviet 7.62 in front of a Menorah comes to mind.

    Anyway, maybe bad news, not from the Trump side. Rumors say: Senate probe expanded to anyone ‘of Russian descent or nationality’ – email

    The videos do not lie.

    Trump’s personal Schutzstaffel is no trifling matter. And the clips with the FEMA trailers are being suppressed…

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    Anyway, maybe bad news, not from the Trump side. Rumors say: Senate probe expanded to anyone ‘of Russian descent or nationality’ – email

    So... to put a finer point on it, if this turns out to be true, it's the goofy Senate investigation into dumb conspiracy theories that is actually and literally declaring that people of Russian descent are outsiders, Russians, and not normal, mainstream Americans.

    , @BenKenobi

    Trump’s personal Schutzstaffel
     
    You got a link to an enlistment website, homie?
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  14. Author and foreign policy analyst Max Boot feels President Donald Trump is making him feel like a “foreigner” in his own country.

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    I, on the other hand, have never felt more at home…..

    “Anything but kind of a normal mainstream American, because of the way that he is dividing us and balkanizing us and seems to be catering to this white nationalist agenda.” …

    So, Maxie did feel like a “normal mainstream American” back when the Democrats were balkanizing and dividing us? Who-whom in action….

    Boot said it was “especially chilling” to hear people like Steve Bannon and Steve Miller trying to change the character of the country by “saying we’re not a nation of immigrants.”

    Quite a lot of Americans weren’t immigrants, Maxie. You know, those bad old Founding Stock Americans: Lincoln, Washington, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jefferson, John Adams, …..You know, the people who created a country to which people could immigrate….

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    Quite a lot of Americans weren’t immigrants,
     
    I've always wondered why the Founders put the 'natural born' clause into Article 2 if we were a nation of immigrants. Why would a nation of immigrants bar an immigrant from holding the highest office in the land?

    Additionally, if we really were a nation of immigrants, then why is Alexander Hamilton, and only Hamilton, celebrated today as an immigrant? Shouldn't they also celebrate those other immigrant Founders like George and Thomas?
    , @David In TN
    "Quite a lot of Americans weren't immigrants."

    My ancestors were 17th and 18th Century pioneers and settlers.

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  15. Serwer is a real piece of work. Whenever I read him, I’m reminded I’ll never be anywhere near as ethnocentric as a black identifying (12.5%) jewish journalist.

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  16. If we call eating like our ancestors “paleonutrition,” and the practice allegedly improves our health, then why don’t we call thinking like our ancestors “paleocognition”? And why can’t we study the effects of paleocognition on our mental health?

    Instead our intellectuals denounce paleocognition with all kinds of derogatory names, like racism, xenophobia, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, cognitive biases, etc. In its place they want to impose a “modern,” arbitrary and unnatural way of thinking that the human mind organically rejects at every opportunity.

    No wonder more and more white Americans have succumbed to pathologies of despair. Our system fills their minds with the cognitive analog of an unhealthy diet.

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  17. Max Boot has a lot of bad ideas, but I think if anything this constitutes an intellectual step forward for him. The existing power structure IS full of people like him. It is incumbent upon the Max Boots & Donald Trumps of the world to exercise that power responsibly. I wouldn’t expect either to happen any time soon.

    One thing that occurs to me: are straight people actually overrepresented in say, Congress, relative to their share of the overall population? I know men are overrepresented, and that change in composition affects what you’d expect. We can leave aside the question of closeted Congresspersons for now just to get a minimal number we’re confident in.

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    The most scientific estimates of the homosexual population I have ever seen put the percentage of males as around 3% and females around 1.5%. So with a total congressional count of 535, and most of them male, you could expect roughly about a dozen to be gay. Unless several are in the closet, then they seem to be slightly underrepresented. Keep in mind though that with a population of only 535 and a small expected percentage it is easy to end up with unrepresentative final numbers. On the other hand the disproportionate number of Whites , males and Jews is so large that there is certainly an unrepresentative effect in play.
    I think that as homosexuality has been normalized we’ll see the number of open gays rise.
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  18. once a Jewish approved candidate takes back control of the white house Jews will launch a major jihad against the goys. They simply cannot tolerate uppity whites wanting control back of their country. That just isn’t who we are

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    "once a Jewish approved candidate takes back control of the white house"

    Lately, that has been happening every 8 years.
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  19. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    I used to be a smart-alecky conservative

     

    Hmm... "conservative". Maybe a chat on a psychoanalyst's couch about improper usage of political categories is in order?

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant”
     

    Somehow the scene where Yuri witnesses the hit in Little Odessa and decides to go into the small arms business while meditating over a spent casing of Soviet 7.62 in front of a Menorah comes to mind.

    Anyway, maybe bad news, not from the Trump side. Rumors say: Senate probe expanded to anyone ‘of Russian descent or nationality’ – email


    The videos do not lie.
     
    Trump's personal Schutzstaffel is no trifling matter. And the clips with the FEMA trailers are being suppressed...

    Anyway, maybe bad news, not from the Trump side. Rumors say: Senate probe expanded to anyone ‘of Russian descent or nationality’ – email

    So… to put a finer point on it, if this turns out to be true, it’s the goofy Senate investigation into dumb conspiracy theories that is actually and literally declaring that people of Russian descent are outsiders, Russians, and not normal, mainstream Americans.

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  20. Max Boot takes himself far too seriously. We need more Jews/half Jews like Warren Zevon. A credit to the Hebraic race.

    That realization comes almost immediately with the next tune, “Roland, The Headless Thompson Gunner”. Zevon wrote this one with a bartender and ex-mercenary David Lindell. Zevon sings about Roland, a Norwegian machine-gunner who travels with mercenaries in Africa. “They fought the Congo War with their fingers on their triggers, knee-deep in gore,” sings Zevon, alluding to the mass African genocide that attracted many a foreign investor.

    Roland’s skill with the Thompson gun gets noticed by the CIA, which persuades his friend Van Owen to blow his head off. Then Roland’s tale turns into a ghost story as he seeks revenge on Van Owen, who he finds in Mombassa—”Roland aimed his Thompson gun—he didn’t say a word. But he blew Van Owen’s body from there to Johannesburg.” The Thompson Gunner still wanders through the night after that, haunting the world and symbolizing not only the ugliness of genocide, but the ugliness of wars founded by other countries. By the end of this ghost story, the CIA has blood on its hands.

    http://observer.com/2016/10/how-warren-zevons-excitable-boy-brings-the-horrors-of-history-to-life/

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    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    A giant, too soon gone. I actually almost got into a fist fight, once, in Mongolia, working on a USAID subcontract, when I insisted to my co-worker that the album "Excitable Boy" wasn't a greatest hits album. He disagreed and, well, things almost got ugly. (It wasn't a greatest hits album.)
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    Warren Zevon = awesome
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  21. @anon

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    “Anything but kind of a normal mainstream American
     
    I feel so bad for him. After all, as a normal, mainstream American, one of the defining moments in my life was the time I was named one of the 500 most influential people in the United States in the field of foreign policy, and used my influence to help get the United States involved in a disastrous war. That's a rite of passage for us normal, mainstream Americans. Like buying your first car or going to the prom.


    Whether I realize it or not, I have benefitted from my skin color and my gender — and those of a different gender or sexuality or skin color have suffered because of it.
     
    I don't know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called "Savage Wars Of Peace", which is a line from "White Man's Burden".

    I don’t know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called “Savage Wars Of Peace”, which is a line from “White Man’s Burden”.

    Since Maxie’s a Kipling fan, perhaps he should familiarize himself with this one:

    The Stranger

    The Stranger within my gate,
    He may be true or kind,
    But he does not talk my talk–
    I cannot feel his mind.
    I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
    But not the soul behind.

    The men of my own stock,
    They may do ill or well,
    But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
    They are used to the lies I tell;
    And we do not need interpreters
    When we go to buy or sell.

    The Stranger within my gates,
    He may be evil or good,
    But I cannot tell what powers control–
    What reasons sway his mood;
    Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
    Shall repossess his blood.

    The men of my own stock,
    Bitter bad they may be,
    But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
    And see the things I see;
    And whatever I think of them and their likes
    They think of the likes of me.

    This was my father’s belief
    And this is also mine:
    Let the corn be all one sheaf–
    And the grapes be all one vine,
    Ere our children’s teeth are set on edge
    By bitter bread and wine.

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  22. I predict that if the TWMNBN can engineer a war with Syria and Iran if not Russia, Mr Boot will be spinning like a dreidel claiming he did not mean every word he just spoke.

    If a war with Iran happens Max Boot will then be singing the praises of white working class in order to get them to join up so that Israel can finally have that border on the Euphrates.

    President Trump thought he gave Jewish Americans everything they could want by putting our embassy in Jerusalem. But now, they want more. Without a war with Iran & Syria, the Jews will try to engineer an impeachment by claiming that Trump threatens a fascist take over of America.

    But then who would Mr Boot imagine as a replacement for Trump so Mr Invade the World can put a half million Huwhite American in the middle east in order to fight on behalf of Israel???

    How about President Earl Dibbles Jr??? The NeoCon wet dream of the Fly Over Merican White Male.

    Earl Dibbles Jr – MERICA (Official Music Video)

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  23. So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.

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    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.
     
    Say it with me: Middle-Eastern Americans are not European-Americans, and vice versa.

    Middle-Eastern Americans are not white.
    , @Iberiano
    For me, at least with Ashkenzai Jews, they ARE white...but they are simply one breed of whites that is able to shield their own version of "white nationalism" under the guise of Zionism and victimhood.

    Imagine an entire group of ethno-centrists who base their tribal identification on whether or not their mother was an Anglican...even if a member of their tribe does not practice Anglicanism...but while they are nearly 100 percent white (save a few "sephardic" and outlier Anglicans), they claim they aren't racists...they are just Anglicans doing Anglican things, like taking over everything they can, while shaming those nasty Lutheran/Germans for being white racist nationalists...noting of course, "It's different for us, even though we are Anglo-Saxon by in largely...and from your own stock, you are German Nationalists and well, that's racist...but we cannot be racists...everyone knows we are just Anglicans"
    , @Corn
    The Z man, who comments here often, wrote a post on his blog a few months ago called Alt-Jew.

    Basically there is a schism forming between American Jews. One group believes the white privilege business and doesn’t want to be seen as white. The second group sees whites turning into a minority and figures “probably correctly” that the POC “New Americans “ will not see Jews as allies in the struggle but a rather rich and privileged subset of whites. This second group does tend to identify as white, or at least views them and whites as being in the same boat.
    , @SFG
    Glaivester argued quite cleverly, and I think correctly, that it depends how you feel about each group, and that if your feelings are similar you are more likely to see Jews as whites.

    Thus Jews are seen as white by such disparate groups as mainstream conservatives and average white Americans (like 'em both) and BDS and minority activists (hate 'em both), and nonwhite by Nazis (like whites, hate Jews) and left-wing Jews (like Jews, hate whites).

    He also added that if you have nuanced views about either group, you are more likely to say the answer is complicated.

    It kind of makes sense as our mental circuitry is calibrated to pick sides in tribal battles.
    , @Moses

    So are Jews White or not?
     
    Listen to them. Observe them. You'll find your answer there.

    Boot writes he never considered himself "White". Consistent with my experience -- Jews I've known absolutely do not consider themselves a subset of native European peoples (aka "White"), but a separate race of their own.

    Just read the old Testament.

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  24. This kinda proves Paul Gottfried’s point that Neocons are really leftists posing as conservatives.

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  25. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Didn’t take much for him to change hats without any apparent embarrassment. One election doesn’t go his way and poof, he’s gone. He’s a war lover and has contributed towards getting a lot of people killed. That might bother some people but not him. He and the rest of the rotten retailers of bad advice just never seem to go away but always have a platform. Curious, no?

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  26. So it seems there is still some belief the D’s will disintegrate. Boot is setting himself and other corporate R’s to bolt to any new party formed by the white/Jewish remnants of the D’s. The Chuck Schumers and Diane Feinstein’s shall meld at last with the John McCains and Max Boots and Joe Scarboroughs, there will be much rejoicing, and we shall have the Globalist party versus the Trump Republican (Nationalist) party at last.

    I guess this sex-harassment witch hunt/purge is removing so many white/Jews from D power that there is a real fear Ellison will take over, and Trump is scaring the corporate R’s enough to make them yearn for a new party to join.

    The problem is obvious: the R’s have been the Washington Generals for so long, what happens when an opposition, non-lefty party actually starts fighting?

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    The problem is obvious: the R’s have been the Washington Generals for so long, what happens when an opposition, non-lefty party actually starts fighting?
     
    "Actually starts fighting?" Is there even the remotest sign of that?

    Heck, we can't even get Republican politicians to articulate the basic issues.
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  27. @eD
    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.

    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.

    Say it with me: Middle-Eastern Americans are not European-Americans, and vice versa.

    Middle-Eastern Americans are not white.

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    Middle-Eastern Americans are not white.

     

    Just kinda "off-white". Or whole grain.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Then what race are they? Because they certainly aren't black.
    So I'm not saying it with you.
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  28. What kind of a name is “Max Boot”

    What kind of real Conservative goes to the University of California at Berkeley?

    These types change their names and their countries as often as regular people change their clothes .

    Sigh

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    Left behind in Chicago asked:

    What kind of a name is “Max Boot”
     
    Answer:

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Boot stamping on a human face — forever.
     
    Orwell was indeed prophetic.
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  29. There is a country where a Russian Jew doesn’t have to feel like an ‘outsider’. It is Israel. Of course a young Russian Jew making aliyah to the Jewish homeland would have to serve three years in the Israeli Armed Forces before he could crack wise in a university and meeting Hezbollah and Hamas up close and personal takes all the fun out of ‘foreign policy’.

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  30. @Bay Area Guy
    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.

    As to Frum, Boot, Goldberg, Kristol, Brooks, who exactly do they expect their market is for invade/invite/borrow from? There’s nobody, it’s a dead end. The Iraq war is dead weight forever. And they aren’t really being rehabilitated, but being used by the Left to oppose Trump.

    Boot wasn’t nearly as interested in real nor imagined inequity until Trump took office. And really he isn’t all that interested now either. It’s not like Boot has abandoned his desk at AEI to go work full time at an inner city soup kitchen like John Profumo. And spoiler alert, Mr. Boot; they hate your sorry white ass anyway.

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    Frum has his faults but he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.

    He lifts, incidentally. I wonder if that has tilted him right on immigration.
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  31. Let’s see, a Russian Jew and an Indian Muslim don’t “feel at home” in this country. And it’s because of Trump. Not because it isn’t their country.

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    Let’s see, a Russian Jew and an Indian Muslim don’t “feel at home” in this country. And it’s because of Trump. Not because it isn’t their country.
     
    The weirdness of this statement comes from the Liberal prohibition on a realistic look at Race. Their only permitted viewpoint is "White Guilt" (i.e. religious style atonement ) effectively allowing minority races to dictate/destroy the White majority. Of course, Boot is 100% for this since it protects and promotes Jewish power in the US.

    A more realistic look at Race shows that most Indians feel "At Home" in India, most Russians in Russia and most Chinese in China.

    If Indians, Chinese or Jews choose (are allowed) to reside in America for economic reasons , while refusing to integrate, and retaining ethnic loyalties, why should they be made to "Feel at Home" in the US ? They're foreign residents, and it isn't their home.

    Max Boot has the automatic right to Israeli citizenship because he's Jewish - it's his primary ethnic loyalty - so why doesn't he make the move there and stop interfering in US affairs.
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  32. How do you do fellow staunch conservatives?

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  33. Gee, I wonder how ‘home’ feels like to Iraqis, Syrians, and Libyans after yrs of Neocon intervention.

    And speaking of not-feeling-like-home…

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    Is he whining about hummus? It's pretty common throughout the Mediterranean. The Greeks have it too, but they call it something else.
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  34. @TGGP
    Max Boot has a lot of bad ideas, but I think if anything this constitutes an intellectual step forward for him. The existing power structure IS full of people like him. It is incumbent upon the Max Boots & Donald Trumps of the world to exercise that power responsibly. I wouldn't expect either to happen any time soon.

    One thing that occurs to me: are straight people actually overrepresented in say, Congress, relative to their share of the overall population? I know men are overrepresented, and that change in composition affects what you'd expect. We can leave aside the question of closeted Congresspersons for now just to get a minimal number we're confident in.

    The most scientific estimates of the homosexual population I have ever seen put the percentage of males as around 3% and females around 1.5%. So with a total congressional count of 535, and most of them male, you could expect roughly about a dozen to be gay. Unless several are in the closet, then they seem to be slightly underrepresented. Keep in mind though that with a population of only 535 and a small expected percentage it is easy to end up with unrepresentative final numbers. On the other hand the disproportionate number of Whites , males and Jews is so large that there is certainly an unrepresentative effect in play.
    I think that as homosexuality has been normalized we’ll see the number of open gays rise.

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  35. @Bay Area Guy
    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.

    In what sense is Boot being rehabilitated? His vicious, reptilian nature seems to emerge only in bolder relief. Did you see his “interview” (more shout-fest) on Tucker Carlson? You could almost see fangs!

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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/07/13/fireworks_tucker_carlson_vs_max_boot_on_russia_you_dismiss_anyone_who_doesnt_share_your_view_as_a_nazi.html
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  36. Boot is pretending to be brave and principled in speaking out against the make believe Hitler. This new angle may prove more lucrative than constantly advocating for WW3

    While Boot’s virtue signaling is sickening in its hypocracy it is probably preferable to to his evil and dangerous foreign policy recomendations.

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  38. Oh Max don’t switch parties and register as a Democrat. You are our moral compass and all that. Anybody but youuuuuuu……..

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  39. @anon

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    “Anything but kind of a normal mainstream American
     
    I feel so bad for him. After all, as a normal, mainstream American, one of the defining moments in my life was the time I was named one of the 500 most influential people in the United States in the field of foreign policy, and used my influence to help get the United States involved in a disastrous war. That's a rite of passage for us normal, mainstream Americans. Like buying your first car or going to the prom.


    Whether I realize it or not, I have benefitted from my skin color and my gender — and those of a different gender or sexuality or skin color have suffered because of it.
     
    I don't know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called "Savage Wars Of Peace", which is a line from "White Man's Burden".

    I don’t know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called “Savage Wars Of Peace”, which is a line from “White Man’s Burden”.

    In 1977 Alistair Horne published a very well-known book with the same title on the French war in Algeria. Anyone in Max Boot’s profession would have been familiar with Horne’s book. Apparently Boot liked the title, so he took it.

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    Anyone in Max Boot’s profession would have been familiar with Horne’s book.

    Well, OK, but I would assume anyone in Max Boot's profession would also be familiar with "White Man's Burden". I'd hope so, anyway.
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  40. Iberiano [AKA "Scotty"] says:
    @Anon
    Max Boot: Trump ‘making me feel like a foreigner’ in my own country

    He should thank Trump. After all, globalism is about no nation belonging to any people. Poland doesn't belong to Poles. Poles shouldn't feel at home in Poland or feel that Poland belongs to them. No, Poland must be filled with masses of foreigners and EVERYONE must be made to feel as a stranger.

    If America is a nation of foreigners coming as immigrants, then feeling 'foreign' is the new Americanism.

    Btw, what did he mean by 'my own country'? It surely isn't the traditional white nation that he emigrated to. Boot hates the idea of White America. So, did Boot mean a nation of 'immigrants'? If so, why shouldn't he feel like an outsider? If America is not a product but just a process where endless change is the real Americanism, then it's only natural for everyone to feel like an outsider since they must, in turn, be replaced by newcomers.

    Of course, by 'my country', Boot means "our Jewish concept of America where we control Diversity to set gentiles against one another". Trumpism interferes with that, but if Boot had any sense, he'd realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers. Do Jews feel more at home in Europe with all the non-white invasion?

    Boot grew up in Russia but didn't feel home there. Now, he doesn't feel home here. Maybe the problem is with him.

    You nailed it. Exactly. There has been a pervasive lack of “logical balance” in all things liberal/prog and cucky-right, for decades…you point this out, he claims one thing on one hand, without ownership of it’s twin on the other.

    Kinda like liberals who allegedly see their view of the world as a sort of “religion”, as cucks like to point out (as if to forgive them)…except, actual religion requires actual sacrifice…not meaningless virtue signaling.

    Boot’s intellectual masturbation is cost free. He should move just to prove his point, of what a terribly racist society we have here.

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  41. Are there still any Limbaugh style “conservatives” who are gullible enough to think these crowns were ever on our side?

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    Well National Review still does pretty well begging its gullible readers during their regular fundraising drives, so there must be some of them out there yet. This is even in spite of the fact that since their non profit conversion you can download their 990 and see how ridiculously overpaid people like Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg are.
    , @Russ
    The irony is that Limbaugh himself was raking Max Boot over the coals the other day. Deservedly.
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  42. Iberiano [AKA "Scotty"] says:
    @eD
    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.

    For me, at least with Ashkenzai Jews, they ARE white…but they are simply one breed of whites that is able to shield their own version of “white nationalism” under the guise of Zionism and victimhood.

    Imagine an entire group of ethno-centrists who base their tribal identification on whether or not their mother was an Anglican…even if a member of their tribe does not practice Anglicanism…but while they are nearly 100 percent white (save a few “sephardic” and outlier Anglicans), they claim they aren’t racists…they are just Anglicans doing Anglican things, like taking over everything they can, while shaming those nasty Lutheran/Germans for being white racist nationalists…noting of course, “It’s different for us, even though we are Anglo-Saxon by in largely…and from your own stock, you are German Nationalists and well, that’s racist…but we cannot be racists…everyone knows we are just Anglicans”

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    That is a unique and illuminating thought experiment, thanks. Hits the nail on the head.
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  43. @syonredux

    I don’t know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called “Savage Wars Of Peace”, which is a line from “White Man’s Burden”.
     
    Since Maxie's a Kipling fan, perhaps he should familiarize himself with this one:

    The Stranger


    The Stranger within my gate,
    He may be true or kind,
    But he does not talk my talk--
    I cannot feel his mind.
    I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
    But not the soul behind.

    The men of my own stock,
    They may do ill or well,
    But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
    They are used to the lies I tell;
    And we do not need interpreters
    When we go to buy or sell.

    The Stranger within my gates,
    He may be evil or good,
    But I cannot tell what powers control--
    What reasons sway his mood;
    Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
    Shall repossess his blood.

    The men of my own stock,
    Bitter bad they may be,
    But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
    And see the things I see;
    And whatever I think of them and their likes
    They think of the likes of me.


    This was my father's belief
    And this is also mine:
    Let the corn be all one sheaf--
    And the grapes be all one vine,
    Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
    By bitter bread and wine.

    Kipling always kills it in these parts. Thanks Syon.

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  44. This Boot fellow makes me nauseous. Regurgitates every cheesy dime store immigration trope there is.

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  45. Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil. You look at Boot and you look at Rubin and you’re seeing an emotions-based reaction to the President. The question at hand (if you’re interested) is why they’re having such a visceral and nonsensical response.

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    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil.

    Does he explore the possibility that Rubin simply has a consistent perspective that has little to do with typical conservative vs liberal politics?
    , @guest
    What they say is nonsensical, but the reaction isn't. I mean, it's emotional, but it makes sense. Trump hits Boot on the immigrant bone, obviously. Rubin was born here, but being Jewish like Boot shares a visceral reaction to what Trump represents.

    Not what Trump is, because prior to running for office Trump and Jews were buddies. But what he represents, which to Jewish liberals and neocons is the dreaded Middle-American populism, i.e. incipient fascism. Trump hits them on the pogrom bone.

    More importantly, Trumpism threatens their careers. They are pet conservatives for liberal and centrist (or what used to be centrist before the Overton Window shifted) readers. If the right isn't interested in neoconservatism and Never Trumpism, and they don't understand what's going on on the right--which they don't--what good are they? There's a limit to how irrelevant they're allowed to be.
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  46. It is great that Mr. Boot has acknowledged his white privilege, now he just needs to be honest and acknowledge his Jewish privilege.

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  47. http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/05/donald-trump-is-guilty/

    Boot’s a fantasist too. Keep in mind he wrote this screed after the independent counsel took up resorting to face-saving indictments on process crimes.

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  48. @Cagey Beast
    I don’t know whether he realized it before or not, but I find it humorous that his first book was called “Savage Wars Of Peace”, which is a line from “White Man’s Burden”.

    In 1977 Alistair Horne published a very well-known book with the same title on the French war in Algeria. Anyone in Max Boot's profession would have been familiar with Horne's book. Apparently Boot liked the title, so he took it.

    Anyone in Max Boot’s profession would have been familiar with Horne’s book.

    Well, OK, but I would assume anyone in Max Boot’s profession would also be familiar with “White Man’s Burden”. I’d hope so, anyway.

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  49. So he now feels like a Russian, an immigrant and a Jew.

    Well, that’s who he is!

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  50. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin's inner turmoil. You look at Boot and you look at Rubin and you're seeing an emotions-based reaction to the President. The question at hand (if you're interested) is why they're having such a visceral and nonsensical response.

    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil.

    Does he explore the possibility that Rubin simply has a consistent perspective that has little to do with typical conservative vs liberal politics?

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    A consistent perspective would not take one stance on a policy question at one point in time and the opposing stance two years later. Cooke demonstrates that her perspective, such as it is, is an antagonism to Trump.
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  51. @DFH

    The videos do not lie. One after another, we have seen the horrifying evidence on film of cops arresting, beating, even shooting people who were doing absolutely nothing wrong or were stopped for trivial misconduct
     
    Very brave of Mr. Boot to criticise Israel like this

    LOL

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  52. @eD
    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.

    The Z man, who comments here often, wrote a post on his blog a few months ago called Alt-Jew.

    Basically there is a schism forming between American Jews. One group believes the white privilege business and doesn’t want to be seen as white. The second group sees whites turning into a minority and figures “probably correctly” that the POC “New Americans “ will not see Jews as allies in the struggle but a rather rich and privileged subset of whites. This second group does tend to identify as white, or at least views them and whites as being in the same boat.

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  53. Deport Boot. That will resolve his problems.

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  54. On the other hand the disproportionate number of Whites, males and Jews is so large that there is certainly an unrepresentative effect in play.

    Whites are not wildly over-represented in Congress–at least in the house. Blacks are a bit below–around 10%–their population representation. Hispanics and Asians at maybe half of their numbers. Whites are at about 80% of Congress, but that’s compared to 63% or so of the population, and a larger percentage of the older voting citizen population. It’s actually pretty close to spot on.

    Jews on the other hand are wildly over-represented by a huge factor. Particularly in the Senate. I can come up with 7 or 8–which would be around 4x. And that’s way way down from their numbers just a few years ago when they had Kohl, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Levin and Boxer–retired just last January. And could tick down one more if Franken actually retires–which i assume he’ll try and wiggle out of. Reasonably there should not be any more since the Democrats are committed to ending white privilege.

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  55. Max Boot, who?? Is that a Hebrew name? Don’t know, can’t care!

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  56. How can someone this damn stupid be on TV all…the time … wait, I’m gonna start over, from scratch.

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    But, you are Russian, you are Jewish, and you are an immigrant! You need to be honest with yourself before you can quit lying to the rest of us. Perhaps this writing IS a step in the right direction (good for Max Boot, but bad for the blood pressure of anyone who accidentally reads this crap).

    I don’t think the guy feels like an outsider in his social circles, as he has gone native, as most of the political, business, and media elites have, especially within Washington, FS. From the 3rd blockquote, his own writing, I don’t see how he can be called any kind of conservative. He should fit right in, now. Also, his opinions shed a bit of light into who the neocons really are. They could fit in as conservatives during the Cold War, and that reputation lasted a few more decades. It’s obvious now, that the neocons don’t give a damn about this nation.

    This guy might not feel like an outsider to the rest of his country, if he’d talk to regular Americans once in in a while.

    . A quarter century is enough time to examine deeply held shibboleths and to see if they comport with reality. … In the last few years, in particular, it has become impossible for me to deny the reality of discrimination, harassment, even violence that people of color and women continue to experience in modern-day America from a power structure that remains for the most part in the hands of straight, white males. People like me, in other words.

    See, a quarter century, and this guy has never gotten out of the house, apparently! It’s all in his head.

    https://www,youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY

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    "Deeply held shibboleths?" Grab a dictionary.

    Shibboleths merely distinguish someone as a member of a group. They can be as superficial as the way you pronounce a common word. (That's the origin of the term.) They have the connotation of being unimportant, in fact.
    , @Art Deco
    He should fit right in, now. Also, his opinions shed a bit of light into who the neocons really are.

    Boot was born in 1969. He had no association with the Coalition for a Democratic Majority or the Committee on the Present Danger or the Committee for the Free World. He had no association with the dissent registered by people like Irving Kristol to the regnant orthodoxy within the Democratic Party. He publishes in Commentary. Commentary is a Podhoretz family enterprise; John Podhoretz has been a standard-issue Republican throughout his public career. So has Wm. Kristol. (It's quite difficult to imagine Podhoretz or Wm. Kristol giving voice to some of the sentiments Boot offers).
    , @dr kill
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    shibboleth
    shib·bo·leth
    ˈSHibələTH/Submit
    noun
    a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people, especially a long-standing one regarded as outmoded or no longer important.

    See Boot, Max; Kristol, Bill; Brooks, David.
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  57. Max Boot: Trump ‘making me feel like a foreigner’ in my own country

    This is easy. It is not Max Boot’s “country”. He has absolutely no roots in America, wasn’t born here and is not loyal to his fellow Americans. All he has is a piece of paper. And his presence here–as of so many like him–an absolute disaster for Americans. So if he feels like a foreigner … uh … great!

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  58. “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    Maybe that’s just what it feels like when his unearned Jewish immigrant privilege is threatened by the audacity of non-immigrant non-Jews having a say in the direction of the Country?

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    Maybe that’s just what it feels like when his unearned Jewish immigrant privilege i

    There is no indication that Boot has ever been 'privileged' in the sense that he occupies some handsome position he couldn't have acquired absent family connections.
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  59. @Clyde
    Max Boot takes himself far too seriously. We need more Jews/half Jews like Warren Zevon. A credit to the Hebraic race.

    That realization comes almost immediately with the next tune, “Roland, The Headless Thompson Gunner”. Zevon wrote this one with a bartender and ex-mercenary David Lindell. Zevon sings about Roland, a Norwegian machine-gunner who travels with mercenaries in Africa. “They fought the Congo War with their fingers on their triggers, knee-deep in gore,” sings Zevon, alluding to the mass African genocide that attracted many a foreign investor.

    Roland’s skill with the Thompson gun gets noticed by the CIA, which persuades his friend Van Owen to blow his head off. Then Roland’s tale turns into a ghost story as he seeks revenge on Van Owen, who he finds in Mombassa—”Roland aimed his Thompson gun—he didn’t say a word. But he blew Van Owen’s body from there to Johannesburg.” The Thompson Gunner still wanders through the night after that, haunting the world and symbolizing not only the ugliness of genocide, but the ugliness of wars founded by other countries. By the end of this ghost story, the CIA has blood on its hands.
     

    http://observer.com/2016/10/how-warren-zevons-excitable-boy-brings-the-horrors-of-history-to-life/

    A giant, too soon gone. I actually almost got into a fist fight, once, in Mongolia, working on a USAID subcontract, when I insisted to my co-worker that the album “Excitable Boy” wasn’t a greatest hits album. He disagreed and, well, things almost got ugly. (It wasn’t a greatest hits album.)

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    When Warren Zevon was 13, he knocked on Igor Stravinsky's door to ask for music lessons.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    The crazy travel stories iStevers have are great. It's like a collective Mr. Belvedere.
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  60. @El Dato

    I used to be a smart-alecky conservative

     

    Hmm... "conservative". Maybe a chat on a psychoanalyst's couch about improper usage of political categories is in order?

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant”
     

    Somehow the scene where Yuri witnesses the hit in Little Odessa and decides to go into the small arms business while meditating over a spent casing of Soviet 7.62 in front of a Menorah comes to mind.

    Anyway, maybe bad news, not from the Trump side. Rumors say: Senate probe expanded to anyone ‘of Russian descent or nationality’ – email


    The videos do not lie.
     
    Trump's personal Schutzstaffel is no trifling matter. And the clips with the FEMA trailers are being suppressed...

    Trump’s personal Schutzstaffel

    You got a link to an enlistment website, homie?

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  61. @Anonymous
    Are there still any Limbaugh style “conservatives” who are gullible enough to think these crowns were ever on our side?

    Well National Review still does pretty well begging its gullible readers during their regular fundraising drives, so there must be some of them out there yet. This is even in spite of the fact that since their non profit conversion you can download their 990 and see how ridiculously overpaid people like Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg are.

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    Do we imagine NR lives off of subscriptions and fundraising?

    Granted, the Deep State probably doesn't feel the need to keep it on the payroll now that the Red Menace is forgotten.
    , @Anonymous
    Thanks for the tip on looking at National Review's 990.

    So Rich Lowry, that little gimp, makes $300,000?! And Jonah Goldberg over $250,000?

    How embarrassing to be a contributor to the National Review clown show.

    https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/133649537/201613479349300506/IRS990

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  62. Max,

    I pulled up Kayak for you. Wow airlines has a flight out of Newark next Tuesday evening (5:40) that will get you into Tel Aviv by 4:30 pm the next day.

    If you agree to make aliyah, renounce your US citizenship and send me your passport after arrival, i’ll pony up the $500 to make it happen. This will resolve all your feelings of alienation as you’ll finally be with your own people.

    In fact, seeing as how you’ve been such an utter pain in the ass to actual Americans since you’ve shown up, i’ll throw in a few hundred more bucks for a few days hotels in Iceland if you’d like to stop and see the place on the way.

    Sincerely, an actual American,
    Another Dad

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  63. “As a Jewish refugee from the Soviet Union, I felt it was ridiculous to expect me to atone for the sins of slavery and segregation, to say nothing of the household drudgery and workplace discrimination suffered by women. I wasn’t racist or sexist. (Or so I thought.) I hadn’t discriminated against anyone. (Or so I thought.) My ancestors were not slave owners or lynchers; they were more likely victims of the pogroms.”

    Dude knows how to punch a proggtard ticket.

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  64. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Jewish Divide-and-Conquer tactics might set both sides against them.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
    And if whites are vilified, non-whites will come to see Jews as enemies since Jews are white.

    So far, Jews used white gentiles against Muslims, and then used Muslims + Diversity against whites.

    But if Jews keep blaming whites for everything, more whites will be 'red-pilled'.
    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.
    Thus, Jews will get hate from both whites and non-whites. Whites will hate Jews for anti-white vitriol, and non-whites will hate Jews for being white.

    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They’re completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It’s much more likely that they’ll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.

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    " Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests."

    Such as ...?
    , @newrouter
    living on the perimeter of the Mediterranean Sea is mutlicult not multiracial
    , @AnotherDad

    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They’re completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It’s much more likely that they’ll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.
     
    Most Europeans have been farming for a pretty long time, which generally doesn't happen in forests, but i get your point. Since the end of the Roman empire, Jews have not been in their own nation, but generally been doing middle man minority stuff in various empires or other people's nations. And Jews have indeed done well when the ruling elite of a nation or empire provide cover for them to middle man away without the natives reacting.

    However, while white American gentiles definitely consider the Jews white, your "non-white-enough by non-whites" seems highly dubious. I don't doubt Jews will continue to own the Democrat party for at least the immediately foreseeable future. But the non-whites aren't going to be happy with that. Rich whites bossing people around and calling the shots are exactly the targets or opportunity. Saying "i'm not white, i'm Jewish" has absolutely zero traction with any of them. It will have to be a lot of behind the scenes manipulation to keep the hate properly focused on the guys with pickup trucks. But it's not going to be as easy as in the past. As non-white numbers grow, Jews are going to find their game harder and harder.
    , @guest
    Show me a time when Jews were ever considered non-white-enough by blacks, for instance, or any number of browns. They shall fail at that particular hustle.

    I hereby predict Jews will be just another kind of white person by the rising tide of color and sucking up to the Dispossessed Majority in ten year's time.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities
     
    Really? It seems that historically, Jewry is a ‘bubble asset’ that repeatedly suffers dramatic devastating corrections in all sorts of locations.
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  65. @whorefinder

    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.
     
    Say it with me: Middle-Eastern Americans are not European-Americans, and vice versa.

    Middle-Eastern Americans are not white.

    Middle-Eastern Americans are not white.

    Just kinda “off-white”. Or whole grain.

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  66. @Anonymous
    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They're completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It's much more likely that they'll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.

    ” Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests.”

    Such as …?

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    He's channeling Disraeli.

    Daniel O'Connell - 'His name shows that he is of Jewish origin. I do not use it as a term of reproach; there are many most respectable Jews. But there are, as in every other people, some of the lowest and most disgusting grade of moral turpitude; and of those I look upon Mr. Disraeli as the worst. He has just the qualities of the impenitent thief on the Cross, and I verily believe, if Mr. Disraeli's family herald were to be examined and his genealogy traced, the same personage would be discovered to be the heir at law of the exalted individual to whom I allude. I forgive Mr. Disraeli now, and as the lineal descendant of the blasphemous robber, who ended his career besides the Founder of the Christian Faith, I leave the gentleman to the enjoyment of his infamous distinction and family honours.'

    Disraeli - 'Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the Right Honourable Gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the Temple of Solomon.'

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  67. …cops arresting, beating, even shooting people who were doing absolutely nothing wrong or were stopped for trivial misconduct…

    …such as carrying concealed in New York City. Unlike as in much-less-racist Texas, Arizona, and Alaska.

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  68. @Anonymous
    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They're completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It's much more likely that they'll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.

    living on the perimeter of the Mediterranean Sea is mutlicult not multiracial

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  69. Max Boot is insignificantly less revolting than Leon Trotsky, who is the kind of ‘Russian’ that Trump makes him feel like.

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    Max Boot is insignificantly less revolting than Leon Trotsky, who is the kind of ‘Russian’ that Trump makes him feel like.
     
    There's still time. These Commies seem to crawl out of the woodwork about every century. It's been about a century now, almost to the day.
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  70. Yes, I’m sure Boot gently bedews his pillow with tears each night for the poor oppressed. His love of humanity shines forth from such articles as “More Small Wars” and “Blame Iran”.

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    Does he bedew pillows among the farmland?
    , @Anonymous
    Uh huh. Wish I could take credit for this but someone on twitter wrote "Looking forward to Boot's article on how BLM can only be saved by bombing Iran." You know it's coming.
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  71. Trump’s being a good shabbos goy, with the pro-Sunni anti-Iran movies, Jerusalem, Flynn taking the fall for talking to the Russians re Israel, letting Kushner managing foreign policy — so what’s the beef? Why is it the Jewish neocons are becoming so unhinged as to perplex the Gentile trucons?

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    It was the footage of the Trump rallies, with the Kentucky Cossacks going wild. Especially over the Wall. Plus I think they just don't like his style of salesmanship. Like theirs, but with more connection.
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  72. I’m sure Trump is thrilled he moved the embassy to Jerusalem. In case he thought it would buy him some equity from the Israel-firsters, think again, Drumpf! It isn’t enough that they have a Zionist in office — the neocons want full control over every single aspect of foreign policy. That they don’t have, at least not yet. So until they get Jeff Flake in the White House, it’s a whole lot of kvetching.

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  73. @Left behind in Chicago
    What kind of a name is “Max Boot”

    What kind of real Conservative goes to the University of California at Berkeley?

    These types change their names and their countries as often as regular people change their clothes .

    Sigh

    Left behind in Chicago asked:

    What kind of a name is “Max Boot”

    Answer:

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Boot stamping on a human face — forever.

    Orwell was indeed prophetic.

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    As poetic as that sounds though, P.D., the Max Boots of the world aren't gonna be the ones doing the stomping, such as the Lenins, Stalins, Maos and Pol Pots. If the bullshit he spouts goes too far, he will be one of the stompees, just like all the useful idiots. Unfortunately, the good, decent people get stomped too. It doesn't seem like there is any other "Shining City on the Hill" type country to help pull anybody out of it this time, so we'd better hope for aliens or the 2nd coming, whichever comes first.
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  74. “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    Wow, now that’s rich. A Russian Jew complaining to a Subcontinental that the duly elected President of the United States, whose daughter is married to a Jew, makes him “feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant.”

    Well, maybe it has nothing to do with the president, but the fact that Boot is actually “all of the above”? He’s not exactly Fred Smith from Mansfield, Ohio, for Christ’s sakes.

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  75. “the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….“

    Mayflower descendent is supposed to mean “elite” here. #Actually, there’s a big difference between the Pilgrims and the Puritans who came later to Massachusetts and set the intellectual tone. A guy like Gregory Clark could probably discern the class difference via surname analysis this many years later

    Not surprised Max Boot is ignorant about the details of American History prior to the Cold War. As distant and irrelevant as the War of the Roses, as the more honest Norman Podhoretz once blurted out about the Civil War.

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    Very true. I cannot resist a story I may well have told before here: a Boston Brahmin lady was once asked if she descended from Mayflower stock.
    She sniffed: "Certainly not: those were our servants, sent over to get things ready for us." By "us" she meant the Winthrop fleet descendants, who were perhaps the most emblematic of the later, well-educated and grimly Puritan of the original Massachusetts stock.
    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence - a Harding or a Nixon might be caught doing it, but a Roosevelt (either of them) or a Bush - not to mention an actual Winthrop! - never would.
    I say this, by the way, as someone who rates Nixon as the best president in my lifetime.
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  76. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Max Boot neocons see conservatism as a set of appearances that, if they ape them well, will enable them to assume the lead of a significant faction, which of course they believe they deserve. It’s all just false-front sales patter. It doesn’t mean anything to them. They are in competion with similar people striving for leadership in other groups. They are “professional” conservatives, that is, they know all the details better than most, but it’s all to better achieve their own ends. The details don’t actually pertain to them. They will be happy to tell you all about what it takes to be a real conservative. (It surely can have nothing to do with conserving the historic American nation.)

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  77. @eD
    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.

    Glaivester argued quite cleverly, and I think correctly, that it depends how you feel about each group, and that if your feelings are similar you are more likely to see Jews as whites.

    Thus Jews are seen as white by such disparate groups as mainstream conservatives and average white Americans (like ‘em both) and BDS and minority activists (hate ‘em both), and nonwhite by Nazis (like whites, hate Jews) and left-wing Jews (like Jews, hate whites).

    He also added that if you have nuanced views about either group, you are more likely to say the answer is complicated.

    It kind of makes sense as our mental circuitry is calibrated to pick sides in tribal battles.

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    I’m in the “it’s complicated” group. And probably that’s quite true.
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  78. Paging Max Boot. A few thousand ghosts of American soldiers would like a word with you.

    Really, it’s kind of a pity. In my teenage years I read Commentary and National Review (this is probably why I lost my virginity in my late twenties) and enjoyed watching them tear down the hippy-dippy, commie left. They even dropped hints about HBD, which I followed into the notorious Bell Curve book which laid the way for me to be an HBD believer in my early twenties.

    Neoconservatism could have been a lot more. But, nah, wars for Israel. I’m not even anti-Israel, really, they’re no worse (and probably a little better) than their local enemies, but I don’t see why Americans should die for it. Raise money from your relatives, they’ve got it to give.

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    Q. What’s the marching song of the Israeli army?

    A. Onward Christian Soldiers
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  79. @whorefinder
    So it seems there is still some belief the D's will disintegrate. Boot is setting himself and other corporate R's to bolt to any new party formed by the white/Jewish remnants of the D's. The Chuck Schumers and Diane Feinstein's shall meld at last with the John McCains and Max Boots and Joe Scarboroughs, there will be much rejoicing, and we shall have the Globalist party versus the Trump Republican (Nationalist) party at last.

    I guess this sex-harassment witch hunt/purge is removing so many white/Jews from D power that there is a real fear Ellison will take over, and Trump is scaring the corporate R's enough to make them yearn for a new party to join.

    The problem is obvious: the R's have been the Washington Generals for so long, what happens when an opposition, non-lefty party actually starts fighting?

    The problem is obvious: the R’s have been the Washington Generals for so long, what happens when an opposition, non-lefty party actually starts fighting?

    “Actually starts fighting?” Is there even the remotest sign of that?

    Heck, we can’t even get Republican politicians to articulate the basic issues.

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    Then remove/retool them with those who can.
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  80. @Anonymous
    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They're completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It's much more likely that they'll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.

    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They’re completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It’s much more likely that they’ll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.

    Most Europeans have been farming for a pretty long time, which generally doesn’t happen in forests, but i get your point. Since the end of the Roman empire, Jews have not been in their own nation, but generally been doing middle man minority stuff in various empires or other people’s nations. And Jews have indeed done well when the ruling elite of a nation or empire provide cover for them to middle man away without the natives reacting.

    However, while white American gentiles definitely consider the Jews white, your “non-white-enough by non-whites” seems highly dubious. I don’t doubt Jews will continue to own the Democrat party for at least the immediately foreseeable future. But the non-whites aren’t going to be happy with that. Rich whites bossing people around and calling the shots are exactly the targets or opportunity. Saying “i’m not white, i’m Jewish” has absolutely zero traction with any of them. It will have to be a lot of behind the scenes manipulation to keep the hate properly focused on the guys with pickup trucks. But it’s not going to be as easy as in the past. As non-white numbers grow, Jews are going to find their game harder and harder.

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  81. @Anon
    Max Boot: Trump ‘making me feel like a foreigner’ in my own country

    He should thank Trump. After all, globalism is about no nation belonging to any people. Poland doesn't belong to Poles. Poles shouldn't feel at home in Poland or feel that Poland belongs to them. No, Poland must be filled with masses of foreigners and EVERYONE must be made to feel as a stranger.

    If America is a nation of foreigners coming as immigrants, then feeling 'foreign' is the new Americanism.

    Btw, what did he mean by 'my own country'? It surely isn't the traditional white nation that he emigrated to. Boot hates the idea of White America. So, did Boot mean a nation of 'immigrants'? If so, why shouldn't he feel like an outsider? If America is not a product but just a process where endless change is the real Americanism, then it's only natural for everyone to feel like an outsider since they must, in turn, be replaced by newcomers.

    Of course, by 'my country', Boot means "our Jewish concept of America where we control Diversity to set gentiles against one another". Trumpism interferes with that, but if Boot had any sense, he'd realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers. Do Jews feel more at home in Europe with all the non-white invasion?

    Boot grew up in Russia but didn't feel home there. Now, he doesn't feel home here. Maybe the problem is with him.

    … but if Boot had any sense, he’d realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers.

    It’s not really a question of being a stranger or not. Judaism only survives because of its Chosen and self imposed “stranger” status. Boot knows this. If Jews integrated and became America First, Jewish organizations (and identity) would quickly wither away.

    It’s really a question of power.

    Coordinated tribal action is best compared to the functioning of a wolf pack. Working as a pack beats being a lone wolf every time. A pack can spend days cooperating to hunt down their prey, and nowhere offers better hunting that the USA, with its great herds of confused and sick animals.

    However, the end game is probably domestication.

    Maybe it’s the interesting image of Neo-Bolshevism presented in the film “The Hunger Games”, with a totalitarian elite, living apart, and using a well rewarded group of corrupt local collaborators to divide the state into separate work/prison camps, and set them at each other’s throats ( “entertainment”) while they live in extreme luxury and devise yet more exciting Games.

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    I think Hunger Games was supposed to be Ancient Rome, and the titular games like gladiator contests. Except the players weren't slaves like Spartacus. (And unlike Spartacus, I take it they won.)

    We have a very hard time understanding the institution of slavery, I think. Especially outside of the prism of blackity-blackness/White Privilege.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "the end game is probably domestication"

    Otherwise known as "good race relations" (farming is definitely the metaphor here). Not now, obviously, but when whites are a minority.
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  82. Boot is an intellectual whore. Now that his meal ticket as a neocon is maxed out, he’s going to try to be one of those “conservatives” who, in Joe Sobran’s memorable phrasing, earns “strange new respect” by realizing all along that he’s been wrong about everything.

    It’s the same game played, to the reward of much lucre, by Boot’s coethnic David Brooks, and to the reward of much narcissistic supply by John McCain. (Joe Scarborough, a clown, gets to keep his job and bang the less-than-enticing Ms. Brzezinski by pulling this trick but does not get the respect.)

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  83. @John Gruskos

    they were more likely victims of the pogroms
     
    They were more likely commissars and NKVD officers systematically starving Russian and Ukrainian peasants during the Red Terror and collectivization.

    They were more likely commissars and NKVD officers systematically starving Russian and Ukrainian peasants during the Red Terror and collectivization.

    Don’t forget destroying churches, churchmen and churchgoers, with extreme prejudice. While prosecuting anti-Semitism as a capital offense.

    You didn’t dare say that Bolshevism was Jewish. 100 years later, you still don’t dare say that Bolshevism is Jewish.

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  84. @syonredux

    “Trump defeated Clinton among white voters in every income category,” from those making less than $30,000 to those making more than $250,000. In other words, Serwer writes, Trump does not lead a “working-class coalition; it is a nationalist one.”
     
    I'm guessing that Boot's only real objection to the idea of a "nationalist coalition" concerns the fact that this national coalition is composed of White Christians. If, on the other hand, we were talking about a "Jewish nationalist coalition" in Israel.....

    I’m guessing that Boot’s only real objection to the idea of a “nationalist coalition” concerns the fact that this national coalition is composed of White Christians.

    Read this tweet from one of Boot’s friends, Jamie Kirchick:

    Trump “is the candidate of the mob, and the mob always ends up turning on the Jews.” — Me, @tabletmag, March 2016

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  85. @Hunsdon
    A giant, too soon gone. I actually almost got into a fist fight, once, in Mongolia, working on a USAID subcontract, when I insisted to my co-worker that the album "Excitable Boy" wasn't a greatest hits album. He disagreed and, well, things almost got ugly. (It wasn't a greatest hits album.)

    When Warren Zevon was 13, he knocked on Igor Stravinsky’s door to ask for music lessons.

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  86. @syonredux

    Author and foreign policy analyst Max Boot feels President Donald Trump is making him feel like a “foreigner” in his own country.

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.
     
    I, on the other hand, have never felt more at home.....

    “Anything but kind of a normal mainstream American, because of the way that he is dividing us and balkanizing us and seems to be catering to this white nationalist agenda.” …
     
    So, Maxie did feel like a "normal mainstream American" back when the Democrats were balkanizing and dividing us? Who-whom in action....

    Boot said it was “especially chilling” to hear people like Steve Bannon and Steve Miller trying to change the character of the country by “saying we’re not a nation of immigrants.”
     
    Quite a lot of Americans weren't immigrants, Maxie. You know, those bad old Founding Stock Americans: Lincoln, Washington, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jefferson, John Adams, .....You know, the people who created a country to which people could immigrate....

    Quite a lot of Americans weren’t immigrants,

    I’ve always wondered why the Founders put the ‘natural born’ clause into Article 2 if we were a nation of immigrants. Why would a nation of immigrants bar an immigrant from holding the highest office in the land?

    Additionally, if we really were a nation of immigrants, then why is Alexander Hamilton, and only Hamilton, celebrated today as an immigrant? Shouldn’t they also celebrate those other immigrant Founders like George and Thomas?

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    Additionally, if we really were a nation of immigrants, then why is Alexander Hamilton, and only Hamilton, celebrated today as an immigrant? Shouldn’t they also celebrate those other immigrant Founders like George and Thomas?
     
    Even Hamilton isn't really much of an immigrant, seeing as how he merely moved from one British colony to another British colony.
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  87. “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

    Boot left out “unhinged warmongering death merchant Zionist fanatic,” but other than that, his feelings seem appropriate.

    Boot said it was “especially chilling” to hear people like Steve Bannon and Steve Miller trying to change the character of the country by “saying we’re not a nation of immigrants.”

    Back. Changing it back to not being a “nation of immigrants.”

    A quick history lesson:

    British peoples explored, tamed, pioneered, conquered and civilized the land that is currently called the USA, with a bit of help from some NW European peoples.

    THEEEEEEEEEEEN (THEN) then Then THEN…then… came the USA. After. After much of the heavy lifting was done. After, after, after.

    Got it? British peoples, first. A long time later, USA, second. See how that order goes?

    Then, muuuuuuuuuuuuch later, after all the heavy lifting was done, came the Jews, the subcontinentals, etc. Waaay later. After all the hard work was done.

    Then, some time after, came the “nation of immigrants” schtick.

    Is that clear to the Jewish folks here (I know you guys aren’t pushing the “nation of immigrants” thing, but I just want to make sure I’m formulating my comment in a way that penetrates Jewish kopfs)?

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  88. @istevefan

    Quite a lot of Americans weren’t immigrants,
     
    I've always wondered why the Founders put the 'natural born' clause into Article 2 if we were a nation of immigrants. Why would a nation of immigrants bar an immigrant from holding the highest office in the land?

    Additionally, if we really were a nation of immigrants, then why is Alexander Hamilton, and only Hamilton, celebrated today as an immigrant? Shouldn't they also celebrate those other immigrant Founders like George and Thomas?

    Additionally, if we really were a nation of immigrants, then why is Alexander Hamilton, and only Hamilton, celebrated today as an immigrant? Shouldn’t they also celebrate those other immigrant Founders like George and Thomas?

    Even Hamilton isn’t really much of an immigrant, seeing as how he merely moved from one British colony to another British colony.

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    Yes, Alex was born in the British West Indies subject to George II, as were the American colonies. His only foreign tie would be that his mother was half-French, I think. But she was also half-English, and his father was Scottish, Scotland then being ruled by the English king.

    He was born outside the 13 colonies, which was unusual though not unheard of for prominent figures of early U.S. history. The idea of him being an immigrant in the sense people want to use it nowadays is strange. We'd hardly think of John McCain that way, for instance, because he was born in Panama.
    , @LondonBob
    The cultural influence of the British Caribbean on the US, especially the deep south, is a much under studied factor. It is a shame the Hamilton fad hasn't at least led to one interesting and neglected valid path of analysis.

    Boot is the true American, all the rest of you are just visiting.
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  89. “The videos do not lie.”

    They can lie, but more importantly they are apt to mislead.

    “One after another, we have seen the horrifying evidence on film, of cops arresting, beating, even shooting black men who were doing nothing wrong…”

    There are videos of cops doing that to other races, you know.

    It’s a well-established fact that cops are tougher on whites, when you take into account how disproportionately criminal are blacks.

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  90. Max Boot discovers what the rest of us have known all along – that he’s a leftist. I’m shocked…shocked.

    My ancestors were not slave owners or lynchers; they were more likely victims of the pogroms.

    Or, say, some of the many Jews who manned the upper echelons of the secret police forces that sent millions of Russians to the gulags, or shallow graves.

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  91. @Anonymous
    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They're completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It's much more likely that they'll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.

    Show me a time when Jews were ever considered non-white-enough by blacks, for instance, or any number of browns. They shall fail at that particular hustle.

    I hereby predict Jews will be just another kind of white person by the rising tide of color and sucking up to the Dispossessed Majority in ten year’s time.

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  92. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    … a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….

    I tend to think of Irish people as having coloring similar to Snow White’s (“… hair as black as ebony, lips as red as the rose, skin as white as snow” or else as redheads with freckles. So yeah, I extend the category of “white” person to them.

    What is it with these various people who keep carrying on about the skin color of Irish people? It’s just bizarre. Until fairly recently, I’d never heard anyone suggest that Irish people might not be or might not be considered white.

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    Here's a link to an article titled, "Sorry, but the Irish were always ‘white’ (and so were Italians, Jews and so on)" by David Bernstein and published this past March in the Washington Post.

    From the article:

    “Whiteness studies” is all the rage these days. My friends who teach U.S. history have told me that this perspective has “completely taken over” studies of American ethnic history. I can’t vouch for that, but I do know that I constantly see people assert, as a matter of “fact,” that Irish, Italian, Jewish and other “ethnic” white American were not considered to be “white” until sometime in the mid-to-late 20th century, vouching for the fact that this understanding of American history has spread widely.

    The relevant scholarly literature seems to have started with Noel Ignatiev’s book “How the Irish Became White,” and taken off from there. But what the relevant authors mean by white is ahistorical.
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/?utm_term=.875e5e50d943
    , @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, it's bizarre that Boot chose to illustrate how much of an extended catch-all "white" is with the examples of a Mayflower descendant and an Irishman.
    , @Alden
    Somebody else already posted about the Jew Noel Ignatiev who has been preaching that Whites should be exterminated in America for decades writing the book about how the Irish became White.

    I don't know why he picked the Irish. They are among the Whitest of the White race ethnic groups.
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  93. That doesn’t mean that every Trump supporter is a racist; it does mean that Trump’s victory has revealed that racism and xenophobia are more widespread than I had previously realized.

    What a dope! Doesn’t he realize that minorities are the biggest racists of all? Whites voted for Trump in their self-interest to avoid disaster. Blacks vote for Democrats for the handouts and “stick it to whitey.” Jews vote for anti-American Democrats because they are elitists (‘God’s Chosen People”) and despise regular hard-working Americans. Max Boot, Ben Shapiro, Bill Crystal, Jennifer Rubin, Charles Krauthammer & JPod are shining examples of the elitist stupidity. The smart “Chosen” neocon set has been wrong about everything and they’re hardcore racists to boot (no pun intended).

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  94. @Anon
    Max Boot: Trump ‘making me feel like a foreigner’ in my own country

    He should thank Trump. After all, globalism is about no nation belonging to any people. Poland doesn't belong to Poles. Poles shouldn't feel at home in Poland or feel that Poland belongs to them. No, Poland must be filled with masses of foreigners and EVERYONE must be made to feel as a stranger.

    If America is a nation of foreigners coming as immigrants, then feeling 'foreign' is the new Americanism.

    Btw, what did he mean by 'my own country'? It surely isn't the traditional white nation that he emigrated to. Boot hates the idea of White America. So, did Boot mean a nation of 'immigrants'? If so, why shouldn't he feel like an outsider? If America is not a product but just a process where endless change is the real Americanism, then it's only natural for everyone to feel like an outsider since they must, in turn, be replaced by newcomers.

    Of course, by 'my country', Boot means "our Jewish concept of America where we control Diversity to set gentiles against one another". Trumpism interferes with that, but if Boot had any sense, he'd realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers. Do Jews feel more at home in Europe with all the non-white invasion?

    Boot grew up in Russia but didn't feel home there. Now, he doesn't feel home here. Maybe the problem is with him.

    Your post is an example of Noticing Overload. I’m sure if Boot could bring himself to read and understand it, the mask would slip, and his true, demonic face would shoot a death-glare at you. Which if you’re not pure of heart would melt you into a puddle.

    The simpler way to say it, without all the America as the world’s foremost non-nation nation guff, is that Max Boot feels like a foreigner because he is a foreigner. Duh.

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    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.Cannot recall a more calamitous television appearance. "Max Boot" on the pages of NR sounded like a really tough guy. But in fact he's a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    So now that the typical white people have awoken to the insanity of invade/invite/borrow and stopped buying NR and the Weekly Standard and their nonsense ideals, Boot is suddenly "woke", all concerned with the plight of the underclass? Sure. If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.
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  95. “He’s making me feel like an outsider…”

    You are an outsider, not counting the little circles you run in and the particular groups to which you belong. Speaking of which…

    “…a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant.”

    You’re not really a Russian, I’ll give you that. But you did come here from Russia.

    You are a Jew.

    You are an immigrant.

    “Anything but kind of a mainstream American.”

    You’re not a mainstream American. (What is it with that “kind of?” Isn’t he a “public intellectual?” Why can’t they express themselves properly?)

    Isn’t it horrible how Trump makes people feel like what they actually are?

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  96. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    ... a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….
     
    I tend to think of Irish people as having coloring similar to Snow White's ("... hair as black as ebony, lips as red as the rose, skin as white as snow" or else as redheads with freckles. So yeah, I extend the category of "white" person to them.

    What is it with these various people who keep carrying on about the skin color of Irish people? It's just bizarre. Until fairly recently, I'd never heard anyone suggest that Irish people might not be or might not be considered white.

    Here’s a link to an article titled, “Sorry, but the Irish were always ‘white’ (and so were Italians, Jews and so on)” by David Bernstein and published this past March in the Washington Post.

    From the article:

    “Whiteness studies” is all the rage these days. My friends who teach U.S. history have told me that this perspective has “completely taken over” studies of American ethnic history. I can’t vouch for that, but I do know that I constantly see people assert, as a matter of “fact,” that Irish, Italian, Jewish and other “ethnic” white American were not considered to be “white” until sometime in the mid-to-late 20th century, vouching for the fact that this understanding of American history has spread widely.

    The relevant scholarly literature seems to have started with Noel Ignatiev’s book “How the Irish Became White,” and taken off from there. But what the relevant authors mean by white is ahistorical.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/?utm_term=.875e5e50d943

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    The relevant scholarly literature seems to have started with Noel Ignatiev’s book “How the Irish Became White,” and taken off from there. But what the relevant authors mean by white is ahistorical.
     
    Precisely. I've had numerous conversations with Americanist colleagues who are true believers in Ignatiev's paradigm. I've even had them tell me that the Irish didn't become White until JFK was inaugurated. When I've pressed them on this, asking how, for example, the non-White status of the Irish compared to that of the Chinese, they always start talking about how they don't mean that the Irish were legally non-White, that their use of the word "White" has a special sociological valence, signifying the "outsider status of Irish Catholics in Protestant America."

    It's utter bilge.
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  97. @Anonymous

    ... a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….
     
    I tend to think of Irish people as having coloring similar to Snow White's ("... hair as black as ebony, lips as red as the rose, skin as white as snow" or else as redheads with freckles. So yeah, I extend the category of "white" person to them.

    What is it with these various people who keep carrying on about the skin color of Irish people? It's just bizarre. Until fairly recently, I'd never heard anyone suggest that Irish people might not be or might not be considered white.

    Yeah, it’s bizarre that Boot chose to illustrate how much of an extended catch-all “white” is with the examples of a Mayflower descendant and an Irishman.

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    Yeah, it’s bizarre that Boot chose to illustrate how much of an extended catch-all “white” is with the examples of a Mayflower descendant and an Irishman.
     
    Why don't these intellectuals ever reference the First Naturalization Act of 1790 and its successors until the post Civil War amendments to add blacks? If people were allowed to naturalize during this period, then they were considered white, at least legally. Unlike Obamacare, the First Naturalization Act of 1790 is just one long paragraph. It would take about 1 minute for someone of Boot's intellect to read and absorb.

    United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790).

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.
     
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ancestral-home-of-crooner-bing-crosby-found-in-cork-230269.html

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crooner-bing-was-proud-of-irish-roots-29563236.html

    I mean, if you meant that Crosby wasn't 100% Irish, that's another matter. Also, one family member came from Canada.

    But if he wasn't Irish then it didn't make sense to record a few dozens of songs celebrating Ireland, Irish culture, etc. and publicly playing up the supposed heritage for all of his public career.

    He was Irish enough.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think it's that bizarre. He explicitly said an illegal Irish immigrant. His younger self's point (which this ridiculous essay of his argues against) was that you can be white without having any obvious privilege, which is true. In fact, you can make that point just with Mayflower descendants, some of whom are down at the heels now.

    Of course, if there were such a thing as white privilege, the death rate for whites wouldn't be climbing now.
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  98. @Anonymous
    No, Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests. They're completely at home in such environments and will only prosper as America becomes more diverse. It's much more likely that they'll be considered white-enough by whites and non-white-enough by non-whites, and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities.

    and will enjoy a position of trust within both communities

    Really? It seems that historically, Jewry is a ‘bubble asset’ that repeatedly suffers dramatic devastating corrections in all sorts of locations.

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  99. How do you do fellow staunch conservatives?

    Thread-winner.

    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.

    I suppose I see that glass as half-full; we’re watching the neo-”conservatives” cozy up to the “left.” Two phony peas in a pod. Leftists show that they have no principles, cozying up to Zionists and the War Party and the “Deep State.” Neocons show what they were all along; leftist infiltrators who would have stayed on the left, if they hadn’t perceived GOP Inc to be more fertile ground for their warmongering for Israel.

    I feel so bad for him. After all, as a normal, mainstream American, one of the defining moments in my life was the time I was named one of the 500 most influential people in the United States in the field of foreign policy, and used my influence to help get the United States involved in a disastrous war. That’s a rite of passage for us normal, mainstream Americans. Like buying your first car or going to the prom.

    Yeah it’s almost as if his Jewish ancestors in Russia would have been more likely to be NKVD bigwigs than oppressed shtetl pogrom victims…

    This kinda proves any casual observer’s point that Neocons are really leftists posing as conservatives.

    FIFY.

    In what sense is Boot being rehabilitated? His vicious, reptilian nature seems to emerge only in bolder relief. Did you see his “interview” (more shout-fest) on Tucker Carlson? You could almost see fangs!

    I didn’t, but I did read the Twitter threads from Boot and his coterie when he came home from that interview to lick his wounds. The tears were delicious.

    For me, at least with Ashkenzai Jews, they ARE white…but they are simply one breed of whites that is able to shield their own version of “white nationalism” under the guise of Zionism and victimhood.

    And money. Don’t forget money. Tons and tons of money. That’s the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil. You look at Boot and you look at Rubin and you’re seeing an emotions-based reaction to the President. The question at hand (if you’re interested) is why they’re having such a visceral and nonsensical response.

    Maybe they’re intellectual sociopaths and most of what they say is for convenience’s sake, and has nothing to do with any real conviction.

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    Yeah it’s almost as if his Jewish ancestors in Russia would have been more likely to be NKVD bigwigs than oppressed shtetl pogrom victims…
     
    Were they NKVD bigwigs? That sort of thing is researchable, no? Maybe Anne Applebaum knows?
    , @Art Deco
    Maybe they’re intellectual sociopaths and most of what they say is for convenience’s sake, and has nothing to do with any real conviction.

    If that were the case, they'd sound like David Frum. Frum's perfectly coherent, which Rubin hasn't been of late. He's also re-invented himself several times in the course of his career, presenting himself as a libertarian ca. 1994, as an advocate of military force ca. 2003, and as the recrudescence of Rockefeller Republicanism ca. 2009. What's odd about that is that I doubt it enhanced his professional prospects much at all, and his last move was part and parcel of what got him canned from the American Enterprise Institute (though not the major factor).
    , @Art Deco
    And money. Don’t forget money. Tons and tons of money. That’s the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel. You're under the illusion that your loathing of Jews is normal. It isn't.
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  100. @syonredux

    Additionally, if we really were a nation of immigrants, then why is Alexander Hamilton, and only Hamilton, celebrated today as an immigrant? Shouldn’t they also celebrate those other immigrant Founders like George and Thomas?
     
    Even Hamilton isn't really much of an immigrant, seeing as how he merely moved from one British colony to another British colony.

    Yes, Alex was born in the British West Indies subject to George II, as were the American colonies. His only foreign tie would be that his mother was half-French, I think. But she was also half-English, and his father was Scottish, Scotland then being ruled by the English king.

    He was born outside the 13 colonies, which was unusual though not unheard of for prominent figures of early U.S. history. The idea of him being an immigrant in the sense people want to use it nowadays is strange. We’d hardly think of John McCain that way, for instance, because he was born in Panama.

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    Scotland was ruled by the Scottish King, who happened to be a German, who was also the King of Hanover and of England, amongst others.
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  101. @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, it's bizarre that Boot chose to illustrate how much of an extended catch-all "white" is with the examples of a Mayflower descendant and an Irishman.

    Yeah, it’s bizarre that Boot chose to illustrate how much of an extended catch-all “white” is with the examples of a Mayflower descendant and an Irishman.

    Why don’t these intellectuals ever reference the First Naturalization Act of 1790 and its successors until the post Civil War amendments to add blacks? If people were allowed to naturalize during this period, then they were considered white, at least legally. Unlike Obamacare, the First Naturalization Act of 1790 is just one long paragraph. It would take about 1 minute for someone of Boot’s intellect to read and absorb.

    United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790).

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.

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  102. Is Boot a product of nationalist satire? Because it’s pretty hard to think of a better argument against the Proposition Nation than for someone who thought of himself as Proposition-American as apple pie to completely lose his sense of identity just because someone he disagrees with was elected president. Because, believe me, we’ve all been there.*

    If everyone can suddenly stop feeling American at the drop of a hat, were they every really American?

    *Myself, I’m not Legacy American. Never can be, though some of my family has been in this country since before the Civil War. (I share my Christian name and surname with a great-whatever Union soldier.) I’m post-founding Scottish-Irish-German-Swiss (and probably then some), unfortunately. (More Scotch-Irish than anything else.) Which means I have no nation. But I don’t go around ruining other people’s like Boot.

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    Whoever heard of a satire with a journalist character named Boot?
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  103. @Barnard
    Well National Review still does pretty well begging its gullible readers during their regular fundraising drives, so there must be some of them out there yet. This is even in spite of the fact that since their non profit conversion you can download their 990 and see how ridiculously overpaid people like Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg are.

    Do we imagine NR lives off of subscriptions and fundraising?

    Granted, the Deep State probably doesn’t feel the need to keep it on the payroll now that the Red Menace is forgotten.

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    Do we imagine NR lives off of subscriptions and fundraising?

    Pretty much. Their income sources are listed in their IRS 990 form. One of their contributors was raked over the coals some years back for doing contract work for a federal agency (an HHS component, IIRC) and one was a professor at the Naval War College. That's as close as they get to a government dole. Some of their foundation pipelines might be compromising. Lowry's employment of Jason Lee Steorts has a musty odor.
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  104. @Anonymous
    Here's a link to an article titled, "Sorry, but the Irish were always ‘white’ (and so were Italians, Jews and so on)" by David Bernstein and published this past March in the Washington Post.

    From the article:

    “Whiteness studies” is all the rage these days. My friends who teach U.S. history have told me that this perspective has “completely taken over” studies of American ethnic history. I can’t vouch for that, but I do know that I constantly see people assert, as a matter of “fact,” that Irish, Italian, Jewish and other “ethnic” white American were not considered to be “white” until sometime in the mid-to-late 20th century, vouching for the fact that this understanding of American history has spread widely.

    The relevant scholarly literature seems to have started with Noel Ignatiev’s book “How the Irish Became White,” and taken off from there. But what the relevant authors mean by white is ahistorical.
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/?utm_term=.875e5e50d943

    The relevant scholarly literature seems to have started with Noel Ignatiev’s book “How the Irish Became White,” and taken off from there. But what the relevant authors mean by white is ahistorical.

    Precisely. I’ve had numerous conversations with Americanist colleagues who are true believers in Ignatiev’s paradigm. I’ve even had them tell me that the Irish didn’t become White until JFK was inaugurated. When I’ve pressed them on this, asking how, for example, the non-White status of the Irish compared to that of the Chinese, they always start talking about how they don’t mean that the Irish were legally non-White, that their use of the word “White” has a special sociological valence, signifying the “outsider status of Irish Catholics in Protestant America.”

    It’s utter bilge.

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  105. @guest
    Is Boot a product of nationalist satire? Because it's pretty hard to think of a better argument against the Proposition Nation than for someone who thought of himself as Proposition-American as apple pie to completely lose his sense of identity just because someone he disagrees with was elected president. Because, believe me, we've all been there.*

    If everyone can suddenly stop feeling American at the drop of a hat, were they every really American?

    *Myself, I'm not Legacy American. Never can be, though some of my family has been in this country since before the Civil War. (I share my Christian name and surname with a great-whatever Union soldier.) I'm post-founding Scottish-Irish-German-Swiss (and probably then some), unfortunately. (More Scotch-Irish than anything else.) Which means I have no nation. But I don't go around ruining other people's like Boot.

    Whoever heard of a satire with a journalist character named Boot?

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    I had to double-check the protagonist's name in Evelyn Waugh's Scoop, William Boot.

    Of course, "Boot" has another meaning in the context of Max and Trump. "You have to go back" makes him feel he could be "booted" from the country.
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  106. @Art Deco
    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin's inner turmoil. You look at Boot and you look at Rubin and you're seeing an emotions-based reaction to the President. The question at hand (if you're interested) is why they're having such a visceral and nonsensical response.

    What they say is nonsensical, but the reaction isn’t. I mean, it’s emotional, but it makes sense. Trump hits Boot on the immigrant bone, obviously. Rubin was born here, but being Jewish like Boot shares a visceral reaction to what Trump represents.

    Not what Trump is, because prior to running for office Trump and Jews were buddies. But what he represents, which to Jewish liberals and neocons is the dreaded Middle-American populism, i.e. incipient fascism. Trump hits them on the pogrom bone.

    More importantly, Trumpism threatens their careers. They are pet conservatives for liberal and centrist (or what used to be centrist before the Overton Window shifted) readers. If the right isn’t interested in neoconservatism and Never Trumpism, and they don’t understand what’s going on on the right–which they don’t–what good are they? There’s a limit to how irrelevant they’re allowed to be.

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    Then again, it's probably more like they dislike Trump the way I dislike Obama, for instance, and this is the only way they know how to express it. They're political enemies are always menaces to the public order because yawn.
    , @Art Deco
    I don't think either would be in danger of losing their jobs were they to write sensible topical commentary. Some people just go off the rails. See, for example, Wm. F. Buckley's chum Jeffrey Hart, who began when he was past 70 to dabble in conspiracy theories and to offer endorsements of Democratic politicians. Hart wasn't going to lose his pension if he didn't endorse John Kerry; something else was at work there.

    Tamar Jacoby has made it explicit that family history is fuel for her advocacy, so there's likely some of that in Boot's writings and Rubin's. I could imagine that driving a distaste for the sort of national-origins quotas which were a part of immigration law 60 years ago, not driving a distaste for immigration enforcement per se. One thing you find (more manifest in the public utterances of David Brooks) is that in some circles it is considered vulgar and declasse to advocate enforcing the law. The individual I correspond with who evinces this view is a business executive in Ohio who grew up in an ordinary family in Southern California and graduated from Franciscan University of Steubenville. He's a highly intelligent and articulate fellow, so it's odd to see the outbursts he's given to when you start jabbing him on this issue.
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  107. I saw America as a land of opportunity, not a bastion of racism or sexism. I didn’t even think that I was a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….

    That last sentence is just bizarre: if you are claiming that “white” is a “catchall category” that has been “extended” to “include everyone” … and then as your examples of apparent polar opposites you come up with a Mayflower WASP and an Irishman … huh? What is going on in Max Boot’s head?

    Yeah. If he wanted to address the inherent “fuzziness” of racial categories, you would think that he would have picked examples that are a tad more divergent:

    that I was a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Lebanon….

    that I was a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Finland….

    that I was a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Armenia….

    I wonder if Maxie has any thoughts on the “Asian” category, which, according to the government, encompasses everyone from Indians to Koreans….

    Then there’s the Latinx category, which includes everyone from Alberto Fujimori to Sofia Vergara….

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  108. @Steve Sailer
    Whoever heard of a satire with a journalist character named Boot?

    I had to double-check the protagonist’s name in Evelyn Waugh’s Scoop, William Boot.

    Of course, “Boot” has another meaning in the context of Max and Trump. “You have to go back” makes him feel he could be “booted” from the country.

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  109. @Achmed E. Newman
    How can someone this damn stupid be on TV all...the time ... wait, I'm gonna start over, from scratch.

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.
     
    But, you are Russian, you are Jewish, and you are an immigrant! You need to be honest with yourself before you can quit lying to the rest of us. Perhaps this writing IS a step in the right direction (good for Max Boot, but bad for the blood pressure of anyone who accidentally reads this crap).

    I don't think the guy feels like an outsider in his social circles, as he has gone native, as most of the political, business, and media elites have, especially within Washington, FS. From the 3rd blockquote, his own writing, I don't see how he can be called any kind of conservative. He should fit right in, now. Also, his opinions shed a bit of light into who the neocons really are. They could fit in as conservatives during the Cold War, and that reputation lasted a few more decades. It's obvious now, that the neocons don't give a damn about this nation.

    This guy might not feel like an outsider to the rest of his country, if he'd talk to regular Americans once in in a while.

    . A quarter century is enough time to examine deeply held shibboleths and to see if they comport with reality. … In the last few years, in particular, it has become impossible for me to deny the reality of discrimination, harassment, even violence that people of color and women continue to experience in modern-day America from a power structure that remains for the most part in the hands of straight, white males. People like me, in other words.
     
    See, a quarter century, and this guy has never gotten out of the house, apparently! It's all in his head.

    https://www,youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY

    “Deeply held shibboleths?” Grab a dictionary.

    Shibboleths merely distinguish someone as a member of a group. They can be as superficial as the way you pronounce a common word. (That’s the origin of the term.) They have the connotation of being unimportant, in fact.

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    Whaaaaaa?
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  110. @Faraday's Bobcat
    Yes, I'm sure Boot gently bedews his pillow with tears each night for the poor oppressed. His love of humanity shines forth from such articles as "More Small Wars" and "Blame Iran".

    Does he bedew pillows among the farmland?

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  111. @guest
    What they say is nonsensical, but the reaction isn't. I mean, it's emotional, but it makes sense. Trump hits Boot on the immigrant bone, obviously. Rubin was born here, but being Jewish like Boot shares a visceral reaction to what Trump represents.

    Not what Trump is, because prior to running for office Trump and Jews were buddies. But what he represents, which to Jewish liberals and neocons is the dreaded Middle-American populism, i.e. incipient fascism. Trump hits them on the pogrom bone.

    More importantly, Trumpism threatens their careers. They are pet conservatives for liberal and centrist (or what used to be centrist before the Overton Window shifted) readers. If the right isn't interested in neoconservatism and Never Trumpism, and they don't understand what's going on on the right--which they don't--what good are they? There's a limit to how irrelevant they're allowed to be.

    Then again, it’s probably more like they dislike Trump the way I dislike Obama, for instance, and this is the only way they know how to express it. They’re political enemies are always menaces to the public order because yawn.

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  112. @Miro23

    ... but if Boot had any sense, he’d realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers.
     
    It's not really a question of being a stranger or not. Judaism only survives because of its Chosen and self imposed "stranger" status. Boot knows this. If Jews integrated and became America First, Jewish organizations (and identity) would quickly wither away.

    It's really a question of power.

    Coordinated tribal action is best compared to the functioning of a wolf pack. Working as a pack beats being a lone wolf every time. A pack can spend days cooperating to hunt down their prey, and nowhere offers better hunting that the USA, with its great herds of confused and sick animals.

    However, the end game is probably domestication.

    Maybe it's the interesting image of Neo-Bolshevism presented in the film "The Hunger Games", with a totalitarian elite, living apart, and using a well rewarded group of corrupt local collaborators to divide the state into separate work/prison camps, and set them at each other's throats ( "entertainment") while they live in extreme luxury and devise yet more exciting Games.

    I think Hunger Games was supposed to be Ancient Rome, and the titular games like gladiator contests. Except the players weren’t slaves like Spartacus. (And unlike Spartacus, I take it they won.)

    We have a very hard time understanding the institution of slavery, I think. Especially outside of the prism of blackity-blackness/White Privilege.

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  113. @whorefinder

    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.
     
    Say it with me: Middle-Eastern Americans are not European-Americans, and vice versa.

    Middle-Eastern Americans are not white.

    Then what race are they? Because they certainly aren’t black.
    So I’m not saying it with you.

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    1. There are more than two colors in the world, kiddo.

    2. Ted Williams was better than Stan Musial. ;)
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  114. @Bugg
    As to Frum, Boot, Goldberg, Kristol, Brooks, who exactly do they expect their market is for invade/invite/borrow from? There's nobody, it's a dead end. The Iraq war is dead weight forever. And they aren't really being rehabilitated, but being used by the Left to oppose Trump.

    Boot wasn't nearly as interested in real nor imagined inequity until Trump took office. And really he isn't all that interested now either. It's not like Boot has abandoned his desk at AEI to go work full time at an inner city soup kitchen like John Profumo. And spoiler alert, Mr. Boot; they hate your sorry white ass anyway.

    Frum has his faults but he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.

    He lifts, incidentally. I wonder if that has tilted him right on immigration.

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    Frum has his faults but he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.
     
    By vociferously attacking two of the best men we've had on the immigration issue? I don't get your fondness for the guy.
    , @IHTG
    My reaction to the dissonance between David Frum's immigration restrictionism and his anti-Trumpism is to conclude that David Frum is a nutcase.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years."

    Nope, not even close. That would be Ann Coulter.

    Hi, Ann!
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  115. Tucker Carlson’s take:

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  116. @Hunsdon
    A giant, too soon gone. I actually almost got into a fist fight, once, in Mongolia, working on a USAID subcontract, when I insisted to my co-worker that the album "Excitable Boy" wasn't a greatest hits album. He disagreed and, well, things almost got ugly. (It wasn't a greatest hits album.)

    The crazy travel stories iStevers have are great. It’s like a collective Mr. Belvedere.

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  117. @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, it's bizarre that Boot chose to illustrate how much of an extended catch-all "white" is with the examples of a Mayflower descendant and an Irishman.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ancestral-home-of-crooner-bing-crosby-found-in-cork-230269.html

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crooner-bing-was-proud-of-irish-roots-29563236.html

    I mean, if you meant that Crosby wasn’t 100% Irish, that’s another matter. Also, one family member came from Canada.

    But if he wasn’t Irish then it didn’t make sense to record a few dozens of songs celebrating Ireland, Irish culture, etc. and publicly playing up the supposed heritage for all of his public career.

    He was Irish enough.

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  118. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Then what race are they? Because they certainly aren't black.
    So I'm not saying it with you.

    1. There are more than two colors in the world, kiddo.

    2. Ted Williams was better than Stan Musial. ;)

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    So then, which color? Han Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Or....they could really be white.

    Musial has more WS's rings.

    Williams has 0 WS rings.

    Musial has 3 WS rings.

    Babe Ruth was greater than either, and he has 7 WS rings.
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  119. @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, it's bizarre that Boot chose to illustrate how much of an extended catch-all "white" is with the examples of a Mayflower descendant and an Irishman.

    I don’t think it’s that bizarre. He explicitly said an illegal Irish immigrant. His younger self’s point (which this ridiculous essay of his argues against) was that you can be white without having any obvious privilege, which is true. In fact, you can make that point just with Mayflower descendants, some of whom are down at the heels now.

    Of course, if there were such a thing as white privilege, the death rate for whites wouldn’t be climbing now.

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  120. @Svigor

    How do you do fellow staunch conservatives?
     
    Thread-winner.

    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.
     
    I suppose I see that glass as half-full; we're watching the neo-"conservatives" cozy up to the "left." Two phony peas in a pod. Leftists show that they have no principles, cozying up to Zionists and the War Party and the "Deep State." Neocons show what they were all along; leftist infiltrators who would have stayed on the left, if they hadn't perceived GOP Inc to be more fertile ground for their warmongering for Israel.

    I feel so bad for him. After all, as a normal, mainstream American, one of the defining moments in my life was the time I was named one of the 500 most influential people in the United States in the field of foreign policy, and used my influence to help get the United States involved in a disastrous war. That’s a rite of passage for us normal, mainstream Americans. Like buying your first car or going to the prom.
     
    Yeah it's almost as if his Jewish ancestors in Russia would have been more likely to be NKVD bigwigs than oppressed shtetl pogrom victims...

    This kinda proves any casual observer's point that Neocons are really leftists posing as conservatives.
     
    FIFY.

    In what sense is Boot being rehabilitated? His vicious, reptilian nature seems to emerge only in bolder relief. Did you see his “interview” (more shout-fest) on Tucker Carlson? You could almost see fangs!
     
    I didn't, but I did read the Twitter threads from Boot and his coterie when he came home from that interview to lick his wounds. The tears were delicious.

    For me, at least with Ashkenzai Jews, they ARE white…but they are simply one breed of whites that is able to shield their own version of “white nationalism” under the guise of Zionism and victimhood.
     
    And money. Don't forget money. Tons and tons of money. That's the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil. You look at Boot and you look at Rubin and you’re seeing an emotions-based reaction to the President. The question at hand (if you’re interested) is why they’re having such a visceral and nonsensical response.
     
    Maybe they're intellectual sociopaths and most of what they say is for convenience's sake, and has nothing to do with any real conviction.

    Yeah it’s almost as if his Jewish ancestors in Russia would have been more likely to be NKVD bigwigs than oppressed shtetl pogrom victims…

    Were they NKVD bigwigs? That sort of thing is researchable, no? Maybe Anne Applebaum knows?

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    Were they NKVD bigwigs? That sort of thing is researchable, no? Maybe Anne Applebaum knows?
     
    She knows but she's not going to tell.

    The Gulag was set up and run by Bolshevik Jews, but in her MSM acclaimed book, "Gulag: A History", she carefully blanks the information out. In the new PC version of the Gulag (being loaded onto academic bookshelves), it was a Russian thing with a few saintly Jewish prisoners helping people out where they could.

    Read the Amazon one star reviews to get some real perspective on Zionist Applebaum's Doublespeak.

    And BTW she's also been calling for years for a US attack on Iran, “Prepare for a War with Iran – In Case Israel Strikes” Feb 23rd 2010. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/22/AR2010022203528.html
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  121. I’m sorry, but per Wikipedia, I came across this on Bing’s youngest song Nathaniel.

    As a high level amateur golfer, Crosby won the 1981 U.S. Amateur at the age of 19 years 10 months. He then won the Porter Cup in 1982 and was also low amateur at the 1982 U.S. Open, finishing 59th. He played on the winning 1982 Eisenhower Trophy and 1983 Walker Cup teams. He turned professional in 1984 and having failed to gain a place on the PGA Tour, played on the European Tour from 1985 to 1987.[2]

    Crosby then turned his attention to the business side of golf, becoming involved in golf club manufacturing companies and golf real estate. He regained his amateur status in 1994, initially in order to play in the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am, the tournament founded by his father.[3] He went on to play again in the Porter Cup and U.S Amateur, but this time without success.[2]

    Involved in golf. How about that?

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    He was recently named Captain of the 2019 US Walker Cup team as well.
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  122. @whorefinder
    1. There are more than two colors in the world, kiddo.

    2. Ted Williams was better than Stan Musial. ;)

    So then, which color? Han Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Or….they could really be white.

    Musial has more WS’s rings.

    Williams has 0 WS rings.

    Musial has 3 WS rings.

    Babe Ruth was greater than either, and he has 7 WS rings.

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    Yojimbo/Zatoichi's baseball takes are consistently worse than Max Boot's on foreign policy. Fortunately, the stakes are much lower.

    So Scott Brosius (3 rings) is better than Adrian Beltre (0 rings)?
    , @Russ
    Williams was mouthier than Musial, to be certain. But in the World Series, when it really counted, Williams batted .200 -- he couldn't even crack the"Mendoza Line".
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  123. It’s impossible to know for sure, but something like 10-20% of all Americans are Mayflower descendants. I have several cousins with Italian names who are descendants thru their mothers. It’s not an exclusive group.
    With the 400th anniversary coming up and lots of online genealogical tools we’re going to see more and more.

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  124. @Dave Pinsen
    Frum has his faults but he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.

    He lifts, incidentally. I wonder if that has tilted him right on immigration.

    Frum has his faults but he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.

    By vociferously attacking two of the best men we’ve had on the immigration issue? I don’t get your fondness for the guy.

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  125. @Anon
    Jewish Divide-and-Conquer tactics might set both sides against them.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
    And if whites are vilified, non-whites will come to see Jews as enemies since Jews are white.

    So far, Jews used white gentiles against Muslims, and then used Muslims + Diversity against whites.

    But if Jews keep blaming whites for everything, more whites will be 'red-pilled'.
    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.
    Thus, Jews will get hate from both whites and non-whites. Whites will hate Jews for anti-white vitriol, and non-whites will hate Jews for being white.

    You don’t get expelled from 109 countries without learning a trick or two!

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  126. @guest
    "Deeply held shibboleths?" Grab a dictionary.

    Shibboleths merely distinguish someone as a member of a group. They can be as superficial as the way you pronounce a common word. (That's the origin of the term.) They have the connotation of being unimportant, in fact.

    Whaaaaaa?

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  127. @Jake
    Max Boot is insignificantly less revolting than Leon Trotsky, who is the kind of 'Russian' that Trump makes him feel like.

    Max Boot is insignificantly less revolting than Leon Trotsky, who is the kind of ‘Russian’ that Trump makes him feel like.

    There’s still time. These Commies seem to crawl out of the woodwork about every century. It’s been about a century now, almost to the day.

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  128. It is true that video does not lie. But Little Boy Boot sure does. His appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show could make a sane person blow lunch.

    (I wonder what his real name is.)

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  129. @PhysicistDave
    Left behind in Chicago asked:

    What kind of a name is “Max Boot”
     
    Answer:

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Boot stamping on a human face — forever.
     
    Orwell was indeed prophetic.

    As poetic as that sounds though, P.D., the Max Boots of the world aren’t gonna be the ones doing the stomping, such as the Lenins, Stalins, Maos and Pol Pots. If the bullshit he spouts goes too far, he will be one of the stompees, just like all the useful idiots. Unfortunately, the good, decent people get stomped too. It doesn’t seem like there is any other “Shining City on the Hill” type country to help pull anybody out of it this time, so we’d better hope for aliens or the 2nd coming, whichever comes first.

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  130. @Anon
    Gee, I wonder how 'home' feels like to Iraqis, Syrians, and Libyans after yrs of Neocon intervention.

    And speaking of not-feeling-like-home...

    https://twitter.com/jjz1600/status/945499686881972224

    Is he whining about hummus? It’s pretty common throughout the Mediterranean. The Greeks have it too, but they call it something else.

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  131. @Iberiano
    For me, at least with Ashkenzai Jews, they ARE white...but they are simply one breed of whites that is able to shield their own version of "white nationalism" under the guise of Zionism and victimhood.

    Imagine an entire group of ethno-centrists who base their tribal identification on whether or not their mother was an Anglican...even if a member of their tribe does not practice Anglicanism...but while they are nearly 100 percent white (save a few "sephardic" and outlier Anglicans), they claim they aren't racists...they are just Anglicans doing Anglican things, like taking over everything they can, while shaming those nasty Lutheran/Germans for being white racist nationalists...noting of course, "It's different for us, even though we are Anglo-Saxon by in largely...and from your own stock, you are German Nationalists and well, that's racist...but we cannot be racists...everyone knows we are just Anglicans"

    That is a unique and illuminating thought experiment, thanks. Hits the nail on the head.

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  133. @syonredux

    Additionally, if we really were a nation of immigrants, then why is Alexander Hamilton, and only Hamilton, celebrated today as an immigrant? Shouldn’t they also celebrate those other immigrant Founders like George and Thomas?
     
    Even Hamilton isn't really much of an immigrant, seeing as how he merely moved from one British colony to another British colony.

    The cultural influence of the British Caribbean on the US, especially the deep south, is a much under studied factor. It is a shame the Hamilton fad hasn’t at least led to one interesting and neglected valid path of analysis.

    Boot is the true American, all the rest of you are just visiting.

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    The cultural influence of the British Caribbean on the US, especially the deep south, is a much under studied factor. It is a shame the Hamilton fad hasn’t at least led to one interesting and neglected valid path of analysis.
     
    There's a brief-but-fascinating bit in Fischer's Albion Seed where he discusses the role played by settlers from Barbados in the shaping of colonial South Carolina.
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  134. @guest
    Yes, Alex was born in the British West Indies subject to George II, as were the American colonies. His only foreign tie would be that his mother was half-French, I think. But she was also half-English, and his father was Scottish, Scotland then being ruled by the English king.

    He was born outside the 13 colonies, which was unusual though not unheard of for prominent figures of early U.S. history. The idea of him being an immigrant in the sense people want to use it nowadays is strange. We'd hardly think of John McCain that way, for instance, because he was born in Panama.

    Scotland was ruled by the Scottish King, who happened to be a German, who was also the King of Hanover and of England, amongst others.

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    Yeah, yeah. But I think you know George II was king of Scotland because England ruled over Scotland, the Scots having lost their independence and subsequently their little rebellions.
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  135. As a Jewish refugee from the Soviet Union, I felt it was ridiculous to expect me to atone for the sins of slavery and segregation, to say nothing of the household drudgery and workplace discrimination suffered by women. I wasn’t racist or sexist. (Or so I thought.) I hadn’t discriminated against anyone. (Or so I thought.) My ancestors were not slave owners or lynchers; they were more likely victims of the pogroms.

    Or maybe they were Bolsheviks or engaged in tax farming or charged poor peasants obscene interest rates with their monopoly on moneylending…or raped Russia blind during the privatization of the 90s. Extend Max Boot’s crimes past his ethnic group to his nationality and you get the Katyn Massacre, the Russian Army raping its way across Eastern Europe, 50 years of oppressing Eastern Europe, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and the Harvest of Sorrow.

    Americans are guilty of all the shit that’s happened here for the last 400 years (oh, plus the Crusades and the Holocaust!), but Max Boot is innocent of shit his people or ancestors did in just the last few decades. Immigration is like baptism – washed clean of all your sins! – and Max Boot is born again.

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    or engaged in tax farming or charged poor peasants obscene interest rates with their monopoly on moneylending…

    There is no such thing as a 'monopoly on moneylending'.
    , @hammersmith
    Max' state of denial, his hypocrisy, is fantastic--yes, his people's role in the Bolshevik tyranny puts him right up there with the offspring of slavers...for sure.
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  136. @SFG
    Glaivester argued quite cleverly, and I think correctly, that it depends how you feel about each group, and that if your feelings are similar you are more likely to see Jews as whites.

    Thus Jews are seen as white by such disparate groups as mainstream conservatives and average white Americans (like 'em both) and BDS and minority activists (hate 'em both), and nonwhite by Nazis (like whites, hate Jews) and left-wing Jews (like Jews, hate whites).

    He also added that if you have nuanced views about either group, you are more likely to say the answer is complicated.

    It kind of makes sense as our mental circuitry is calibrated to pick sides in tribal battles.

    I’m in the “it’s complicated” group. And probably that’s quite true.

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  137. @anon
    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil.

    Does he explore the possibility that Rubin simply has a consistent perspective that has little to do with typical conservative vs liberal politics?

    A consistent perspective would not take one stance on a policy question at one point in time and the opposing stance two years later. Cooke demonstrates that her perspective, such as it is, is an antagonism to Trump.

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  138. I can’t wait to watch Max’s inspiring video addressed to his fellow white people to resist racism and hate.

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  139. @Achmed E. Newman
    How can someone this damn stupid be on TV all...the time ... wait, I'm gonna start over, from scratch.

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.
     
    But, you are Russian, you are Jewish, and you are an immigrant! You need to be honest with yourself before you can quit lying to the rest of us. Perhaps this writing IS a step in the right direction (good for Max Boot, but bad for the blood pressure of anyone who accidentally reads this crap).

    I don't think the guy feels like an outsider in his social circles, as he has gone native, as most of the political, business, and media elites have, especially within Washington, FS. From the 3rd blockquote, his own writing, I don't see how he can be called any kind of conservative. He should fit right in, now. Also, his opinions shed a bit of light into who the neocons really are. They could fit in as conservatives during the Cold War, and that reputation lasted a few more decades. It's obvious now, that the neocons don't give a damn about this nation.

    This guy might not feel like an outsider to the rest of his country, if he'd talk to regular Americans once in in a while.

    . A quarter century is enough time to examine deeply held shibboleths and to see if they comport with reality. … In the last few years, in particular, it has become impossible for me to deny the reality of discrimination, harassment, even violence that people of color and women continue to experience in modern-day America from a power structure that remains for the most part in the hands of straight, white males. People like me, in other words.
     
    See, a quarter century, and this guy has never gotten out of the house, apparently! It's all in his head.

    https://www,youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY

    He should fit right in, now. Also, his opinions shed a bit of light into who the neocons really are.

    Boot was born in 1969. He had no association with the Coalition for a Democratic Majority or the Committee on the Present Danger or the Committee for the Free World. He had no association with the dissent registered by people like Irving Kristol to the regnant orthodoxy within the Democratic Party. He publishes in Commentary. Commentary is a Podhoretz family enterprise; John Podhoretz has been a standard-issue Republican throughout his public career. So has Wm. Kristol. (It’s quite difficult to imagine Podhoretz or Wm. Kristol giving voice to some of the sentiments Boot offers).

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  140. @Alec Leamas

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.
     
    Maybe that's just what it feels like when his unearned Jewish immigrant privilege is threatened by the audacity of non-immigrant non-Jews having a say in the direction of the Country?

    Maybe that’s just what it feels like when his unearned Jewish immigrant privilege i

    There is no indication that Boot has ever been ‘privileged’ in the sense that he occupies some handsome position he couldn’t have acquired absent family connections.

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    There is no indication that Boot has ever been ‘privileged’ in the sense that he occupies some handsome position he couldn’t have acquired absent family connections.
     
    I think any foreigner in a position to lecture a nation's natives about its politics and foreign policy is in a rather privileged position, wouldn't you?

    Additionally, Boot seems to be among the Russian Jew refuseniks granted special immigration status in the United States, which anyone would conclude is a privilege specially afforded his kind.
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  141. @guest
    Do we imagine NR lives off of subscriptions and fundraising?

    Granted, the Deep State probably doesn't feel the need to keep it on the payroll now that the Red Menace is forgotten.

    Do we imagine NR lives off of subscriptions and fundraising?

    Pretty much. Their income sources are listed in their IRS 990 form. One of their contributors was raked over the coals some years back for doing contract work for a federal agency (an HHS component, IIRC) and one was a professor at the Naval War College. That’s as close as they get to a government dole. Some of their foundation pipelines might be compromising. Lowry’s employment of Jason Lee Steorts has a musty odor.

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    Pretty much. Their income sources are listed in their IRS 990 form.
     
    Is there a line item on that form for "secret CIA funding?" That's what commenter "guest" was talking about.
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  142. @Wilkey
    As a Jewish refugee from the Soviet Union, I felt it was ridiculous to expect me to atone for the sins of slavery and segregation, to say nothing of the household drudgery and workplace discrimination suffered by women. I wasn’t racist or sexist. (Or so I thought.) I hadn’t discriminated against anyone. (Or so I thought.) My ancestors were not slave owners or lynchers; they were more likely victims of the pogroms.

    Or maybe they were Bolsheviks or engaged in tax farming or charged poor peasants obscene interest rates with their monopoly on moneylending...or raped Russia blind during the privatization of the 90s. Extend Max Boot's crimes past his ethnic group to his nationality and you get the Katyn Massacre, the Russian Army raping its way across Eastern Europe, 50 years of oppressing Eastern Europe, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and the Harvest of Sorrow.

    Americans are guilty of all the shit that's happened here for the last 400 years (oh, plus the Crusades and the Holocaust!), but Max Boot is innocent of shit his people or ancestors did in just the last few decades. Immigration is like baptism - washed clean of all your sins! - and Max Boot is born again.

    or engaged in tax farming or charged poor peasants obscene interest rates with their monopoly on moneylending…

    There is no such thing as a ‘monopoly on moneylending’.

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  143. @Faraday's Bobcat
    Yes, I'm sure Boot gently bedews his pillow with tears each night for the poor oppressed. His love of humanity shines forth from such articles as "More Small Wars" and "Blame Iran".

    Uh huh. Wish I could take credit for this but someone on twitter wrote “Looking forward to Boot’s article on how BLM can only be saved by bombing Iran.” You know it’s coming.

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  144. @guest
    What they say is nonsensical, but the reaction isn't. I mean, it's emotional, but it makes sense. Trump hits Boot on the immigrant bone, obviously. Rubin was born here, but being Jewish like Boot shares a visceral reaction to what Trump represents.

    Not what Trump is, because prior to running for office Trump and Jews were buddies. But what he represents, which to Jewish liberals and neocons is the dreaded Middle-American populism, i.e. incipient fascism. Trump hits them on the pogrom bone.

    More importantly, Trumpism threatens their careers. They are pet conservatives for liberal and centrist (or what used to be centrist before the Overton Window shifted) readers. If the right isn't interested in neoconservatism and Never Trumpism, and they don't understand what's going on on the right--which they don't--what good are they? There's a limit to how irrelevant they're allowed to be.

    I don’t think either would be in danger of losing their jobs were they to write sensible topical commentary. Some people just go off the rails. See, for example, Wm. F. Buckley’s chum Jeffrey Hart, who began when he was past 70 to dabble in conspiracy theories and to offer endorsements of Democratic politicians. Hart wasn’t going to lose his pension if he didn’t endorse John Kerry; something else was at work there.

    Tamar Jacoby has made it explicit that family history is fuel for her advocacy, so there’s likely some of that in Boot’s writings and Rubin’s. I could imagine that driving a distaste for the sort of national-origins quotas which were a part of immigration law 60 years ago, not driving a distaste for immigration enforcement per se. One thing you find (more manifest in the public utterances of David Brooks) is that in some circles it is considered vulgar and declasse to advocate enforcing the law. The individual I correspond with who evinces this view is a business executive in Ohio who grew up in an ordinary family in Southern California and graduated from Franciscan University of Steubenville. He’s a highly intelligent and articulate fellow, so it’s odd to see the outbursts he’s given to when you start jabbing him on this issue.

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    "See, for example, Wm. F. Buckley’s chum Jeffrey Hart, who began when he was past 70 to dabble in conspiracy theories and to offer endorsements of Democratic politicians"

    I'll never forget Hart's write-up of a visit by Rush Limbaugh to Buckley's NY apartment, in the early 1990s or so. Hart deemed it vital to describe Mrs. Buckley's consternation (expressed solely through body language) when the heavyweight talker seated himself in one of her fragile chairs. Never could take Jeffrey Hart very seriously afterwards.
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  145. The videos do not lie. One after another, we have seen the horrifying evidence on film of cops arresting, beating, even shooting black people who were doing absolutely nothing wrong

    Speaking of lying, the most dishonest kind of autobio/confessional essay is the one that seeks to convince people by telling them “I’m just like you” by pretending to be convinced by “convincing” things that one is not convinced by. I find it hard to believe that Max Boot is dumb enough to be swayed by a few videos or that his previous “conservative smart-alecky” incarnation couldn’t have come up with a true and smart-alecky rejoinder to “because videos.” We need to give this guy The Boot.

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  146. @Barnard
    Well National Review still does pretty well begging its gullible readers during their regular fundraising drives, so there must be some of them out there yet. This is even in spite of the fact that since their non profit conversion you can download their 990 and see how ridiculously overpaid people like Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg are.

    Thanks for the tip on looking at National Review’s 990.

    So Rich Lowry, that little gimp, makes $300,000?! And Jonah Goldberg over $250,000?

    How embarrassing to be a contributor to the National Review clown show.

    https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/133649537/201613479349300506/IRS990

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  147. @Svigor

    How do you do fellow staunch conservatives?
     
    Thread-winner.

    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.
     
    I suppose I see that glass as half-full; we're watching the neo-"conservatives" cozy up to the "left." Two phony peas in a pod. Leftists show that they have no principles, cozying up to Zionists and the War Party and the "Deep State." Neocons show what they were all along; leftist infiltrators who would have stayed on the left, if they hadn't perceived GOP Inc to be more fertile ground for their warmongering for Israel.

    I feel so bad for him. After all, as a normal, mainstream American, one of the defining moments in my life was the time I was named one of the 500 most influential people in the United States in the field of foreign policy, and used my influence to help get the United States involved in a disastrous war. That’s a rite of passage for us normal, mainstream Americans. Like buying your first car or going to the prom.
     
    Yeah it's almost as if his Jewish ancestors in Russia would have been more likely to be NKVD bigwigs than oppressed shtetl pogrom victims...

    This kinda proves any casual observer's point that Neocons are really leftists posing as conservatives.
     
    FIFY.

    In what sense is Boot being rehabilitated? His vicious, reptilian nature seems to emerge only in bolder relief. Did you see his “interview” (more shout-fest) on Tucker Carlson? You could almost see fangs!
     
    I didn't, but I did read the Twitter threads from Boot and his coterie when he came home from that interview to lick his wounds. The tears were delicious.

    For me, at least with Ashkenzai Jews, they ARE white…but they are simply one breed of whites that is able to shield their own version of “white nationalism” under the guise of Zionism and victimhood.
     
    And money. Don't forget money. Tons and tons of money. That's the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil. You look at Boot and you look at Rubin and you’re seeing an emotions-based reaction to the President. The question at hand (if you’re interested) is why they’re having such a visceral and nonsensical response.
     
    Maybe they're intellectual sociopaths and most of what they say is for convenience's sake, and has nothing to do with any real conviction.

    Maybe they’re intellectual sociopaths and most of what they say is for convenience’s sake, and has nothing to do with any real conviction.

    If that were the case, they’d sound like David Frum. Frum’s perfectly coherent, which Rubin hasn’t been of late. He’s also re-invented himself several times in the course of his career, presenting himself as a libertarian ca. 1994, as an advocate of military force ca. 2003, and as the recrudescence of Rockefeller Republicanism ca. 2009. What’s odd about that is that I doubt it enhanced his professional prospects much at all, and his last move was part and parcel of what got him canned from the American Enterprise Institute (though not the major factor).

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  148. @Svigor

    How do you do fellow staunch conservatives?
     
    Thread-winner.

    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.
     
    I suppose I see that glass as half-full; we're watching the neo-"conservatives" cozy up to the "left." Two phony peas in a pod. Leftists show that they have no principles, cozying up to Zionists and the War Party and the "Deep State." Neocons show what they were all along; leftist infiltrators who would have stayed on the left, if they hadn't perceived GOP Inc to be more fertile ground for their warmongering for Israel.

    I feel so bad for him. After all, as a normal, mainstream American, one of the defining moments in my life was the time I was named one of the 500 most influential people in the United States in the field of foreign policy, and used my influence to help get the United States involved in a disastrous war. That’s a rite of passage for us normal, mainstream Americans. Like buying your first car or going to the prom.
     
    Yeah it's almost as if his Jewish ancestors in Russia would have been more likely to be NKVD bigwigs than oppressed shtetl pogrom victims...

    This kinda proves any casual observer's point that Neocons are really leftists posing as conservatives.
     
    FIFY.

    In what sense is Boot being rehabilitated? His vicious, reptilian nature seems to emerge only in bolder relief. Did you see his “interview” (more shout-fest) on Tucker Carlson? You could almost see fangs!
     
    I didn't, but I did read the Twitter threads from Boot and his coterie when he came home from that interview to lick his wounds. The tears were delicious.

    For me, at least with Ashkenzai Jews, they ARE white…but they are simply one breed of whites that is able to shield their own version of “white nationalism” under the guise of Zionism and victimhood.
     
    And money. Don't forget money. Tons and tons of money. That's the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    Recently, Charles CW Cooke took an inventory of the writings of Jennifer Rubin over the last 30 months and made it plain that her utterances were so inconsistent and her perspective so protean that it simply had no value except as a guide to Jennifer Rubin’s inner turmoil. You look at Boot and you look at Rubin and you’re seeing an emotions-based reaction to the President. The question at hand (if you’re interested) is why they’re having such a visceral and nonsensical response.
     
    Maybe they're intellectual sociopaths and most of what they say is for convenience's sake, and has nothing to do with any real conviction.

    And money. Don’t forget money. Tons and tons of money. That’s the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel. You’re under the illusion that your loathing of Jews is normal. It isn’t.

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    It's far from abnormal insofar as it extends to condemnation of Israeli actions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2334 .
    , @Mr. Anon

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel.
     
    No, but apparently many politicians have to be bought off to put another country's interests ahead of their own. Or, what is it exactly that canny businessmen like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban are spending their money for? What is the purpose of AIPAC then?
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  149. @Anon
    Jewish Divide-and-Conquer tactics might set both sides against them.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
    And if whites are vilified, non-whites will come to see Jews as enemies since Jews are white.

    So far, Jews used white gentiles against Muslims, and then used Muslims + Diversity against whites.

    But if Jews keep blaming whites for everything, more whites will be 'red-pilled'.
    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.
    Thus, Jews will get hate from both whites and non-whites. Whites will hate Jews for anti-white vitriol, and non-whites will hate Jews for being white.

    And yet the world still wonders from what root does anti-Semitism grow.

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  150. @newrouter
    " Jews were already living in complex multiracial societies when most Europeans were still living in forests."

    Such as ...?

    He’s channeling Disraeli.

    Daniel O’Connell - ‘His name shows that he is of Jewish origin. I do not use it as a term of reproach; there are many most respectable Jews. But there are, as in every other people, some of the lowest and most disgusting grade of moral turpitude; and of those I look upon Mr. Disraeli as the worst. He has just the qualities of the impenitent thief on the Cross, and I verily believe, if Mr. Disraeli’s family herald were to be examined and his genealogy traced, the same personage would be discovered to be the heir at law of the exalted individual to whom I allude. I forgive Mr. Disraeli now, and as the lineal descendant of the blasphemous robber, who ended his career besides the Founder of the Christian Faith, I leave the gentleman to the enjoyment of his infamous distinction and family honours.’

    Disraeli – ‘Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the Right Honourable Gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the Temple of Solomon.’

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  151. @Miro23

    ... but if Boot had any sense, he’d realize that the demise of White America will also make Jews feel like even bigger strangers.
     
    It's not really a question of being a stranger or not. Judaism only survives because of its Chosen and self imposed "stranger" status. Boot knows this. If Jews integrated and became America First, Jewish organizations (and identity) would quickly wither away.

    It's really a question of power.

    Coordinated tribal action is best compared to the functioning of a wolf pack. Working as a pack beats being a lone wolf every time. A pack can spend days cooperating to hunt down their prey, and nowhere offers better hunting that the USA, with its great herds of confused and sick animals.

    However, the end game is probably domestication.

    Maybe it's the interesting image of Neo-Bolshevism presented in the film "The Hunger Games", with a totalitarian elite, living apart, and using a well rewarded group of corrupt local collaborators to divide the state into separate work/prison camps, and set them at each other's throats ( "entertainment") while they live in extreme luxury and devise yet more exciting Games.

    “the end game is probably domestication”

    Otherwise known as “good race relations” (farming is definitely the metaphor here). Not now, obviously, but when whites are a minority.

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  152. @TheBoom
    once a Jewish approved candidate takes back control of the white house Jews will launch a major jihad against the goys. They simply cannot tolerate uppity whites wanting control back of their country. That just isn't who we are

    “once a Jewish approved candidate takes back control of the white house”

    Lately, that has been happening every 8 years.

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    Yes but not with Trump. Thus all the hysteria manufactured by the media
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  153. @Dave Pinsen
    Frum has his faults but he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.

    He lifts, incidentally. I wonder if that has tilted him right on immigration.

    My reaction to the dissonance between David Frum’s immigration restrictionism and his anti-Trumpism is to conclude that David Frum is a nutcase.

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  154. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    So then, which color? Han Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Or....they could really be white.

    Musial has more WS's rings.

    Williams has 0 WS rings.

    Musial has 3 WS rings.

    Babe Ruth was greater than either, and he has 7 WS rings.

    Yojimbo/Zatoichi’s baseball takes are consistently worse than Max Boot’s on foreign policy. Fortunately, the stakes are much lower.

    So Scott Brosius (3 rings) is better than Adrian Beltre (0 rings)?

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    No, Reggie Jackson (5 rings) is greater than Adrian Beltre. WS Rings are not the only component in determining MLB greatness, HOWEVER they are in fact a major component.

    A while back I made the point that HOFer Ralph Kiner (led the NL in HR's for seven consecutive seasons and had one of the best HR per time AB in the middle twentieth century) was unceremoniously traded away to the Cubs. Why?

    "We can finish in last place without you."--HOFer GM Branch Rickey. Also notice that few fans instantly recall Ralph Kiner today, except perhaps as announcer for NY Mets.

    In other words, exceptional claims demand exceptional evidence. Which do the majority of fans like to watch? Great individual players or teams winning the WS? If the individual star is so great, then he should be contributing to his team's ability to go to the WS. It is exceptional, however, when the blessed few individuals are also able to consistently lead their teams to the WS and a championship ring.

    While there is no "I" in T-E-A-M, as NBA HOFer Michael Jordan (6 rings) stated "There IS an "I" in W-I-N."

    Get 'er done. That's what mainly counts in sports. Yogi Berra (10 rings) is also in the HOF and is considered one of the best AL defensive catchers of the 20th century. So it can be done (being individually great and contributing to WS).
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  155. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    I'm sorry, but per Wikipedia, I came across this on Bing's youngest song Nathaniel.

    As a high level amateur golfer, Crosby won the 1981 U.S. Amateur at the age of 19 years 10 months. He then won the Porter Cup in 1982 and was also low amateur at the 1982 U.S. Open, finishing 59th. He played on the winning 1982 Eisenhower Trophy and 1983 Walker Cup teams. He turned professional in 1984 and having failed to gain a place on the PGA Tour, played on the European Tour from 1985 to 1987.[2]

    Crosby then turned his attention to the business side of golf, becoming involved in golf club manufacturing companies and golf real estate. He regained his amateur status in 1994, initially in order to play in the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am, the tournament founded by his father.[3] He went on to play again in the Porter Cup and U.S Amateur, but this time without success.[2]



    Involved in golf. How about that?

    He was recently named Captain of the 2019 US Walker Cup team as well.

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  156. @Anon
    Jewish Divide-and-Conquer tactics might set both sides against them.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
    And if whites are vilified, non-whites will come to see Jews as enemies since Jews are white.

    So far, Jews used white gentiles against Muslims, and then used Muslims + Diversity against whites.

    But if Jews keep blaming whites for everything, more whites will be 'red-pilled'.
    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.
    Thus, Jews will get hate from both whites and non-whites. Whites will hate Jews for anti-white vitriol, and non-whites will hate Jews for being white.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.

    Might?

    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.

    American history shows otherwise. Jews use the “White” label when it suits them (as Mr. Boot has done here) and discard it for the “Jewish” label to put distance between them and Whites when it suits them (as Mr. Boot has done here).

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  157. @Dave Pinsen

    Yeah it’s almost as if his Jewish ancestors in Russia would have been more likely to be NKVD bigwigs than oppressed shtetl pogrom victims…
     
    Were they NKVD bigwigs? That sort of thing is researchable, no? Maybe Anne Applebaum knows?

    Were they NKVD bigwigs? That sort of thing is researchable, no? Maybe Anne Applebaum knows?

    She knows but she’s not going to tell.

    The Gulag was set up and run by Bolshevik Jews, but in her MSM acclaimed book, “Gulag: A History”, she carefully blanks the information out. In the new PC version of the Gulag (being loaded onto academic bookshelves), it was a Russian thing with a few saintly Jewish prisoners helping people out where they could.

    Read the Amazon one star reviews to get some real perspective on Zionist Applebaum’s Doublespeak.

    And BTW she’s also been calling for years for a US attack on Iran, “Prepare for a War with Iran – In Case Israel Strikes” Feb 23rd 2010. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/22/AR2010022203528.html

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  158. @eD
    So are Jews White or not? Its getting really hard to keep this stuff straight.

    So are Jews White or not?

    Listen to them. Observe them. You’ll find your answer there.

    Boot writes he never considered himself “White”. Consistent with my experience — Jews I’ve known absolutely do not consider themselves a subset of native European peoples (aka “White”), but a separate race of their own.

    Just read the old Testament.

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  159. But gee Max, don’t you think that Trump’s support for Israel makes us for all that?

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  160. @Wilkey
    As a Jewish refugee from the Soviet Union, I felt it was ridiculous to expect me to atone for the sins of slavery and segregation, to say nothing of the household drudgery and workplace discrimination suffered by women. I wasn’t racist or sexist. (Or so I thought.) I hadn’t discriminated against anyone. (Or so I thought.) My ancestors were not slave owners or lynchers; they were more likely victims of the pogroms.

    Or maybe they were Bolsheviks or engaged in tax farming or charged poor peasants obscene interest rates with their monopoly on moneylending...or raped Russia blind during the privatization of the 90s. Extend Max Boot's crimes past his ethnic group to his nationality and you get the Katyn Massacre, the Russian Army raping its way across Eastern Europe, 50 years of oppressing Eastern Europe, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and the Harvest of Sorrow.

    Americans are guilty of all the shit that's happened here for the last 400 years (oh, plus the Crusades and the Holocaust!), but Max Boot is innocent of shit his people or ancestors did in just the last few decades. Immigration is like baptism - washed clean of all your sins! - and Max Boot is born again.

    Max’ state of denial, his hypocrisy, is fantastic–yes, his people’s role in the Bolshevik tyranny puts him right up there with the offspring of slavers…for sure.

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  161. @Bay Area Guy
    More than anything else, the worst thing about the Trump era is watching neocon slime like Max Boot and David Frum get rehabilitated.

    Lefties still hate these guys for supporting Dubya.

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    Lefties still hate these guys for supporting Dubya.
     
    Dunno. W is getting the "strange, new respect" treatment these days.Remember, he loves the Latinx.....
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  162. @syonredux

    Author and foreign policy analyst Max Boot feels President Donald Trump is making him feel like a “foreigner” in his own country.

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.
     
    I, on the other hand, have never felt more at home.....

    “Anything but kind of a normal mainstream American, because of the way that he is dividing us and balkanizing us and seems to be catering to this white nationalist agenda.” …
     
    So, Maxie did feel like a "normal mainstream American" back when the Democrats were balkanizing and dividing us? Who-whom in action....

    Boot said it was “especially chilling” to hear people like Steve Bannon and Steve Miller trying to change the character of the country by “saying we’re not a nation of immigrants.”
     
    Quite a lot of Americans weren't immigrants, Maxie. You know, those bad old Founding Stock Americans: Lincoln, Washington, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jefferson, John Adams, .....You know, the people who created a country to which people could immigrate....

    “Quite a lot of Americans weren’t immigrants.”

    My ancestors were 17th and 18th Century pioneers and settlers.

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  163. @guest
    Your post is an example of Noticing Overload. I'm sure if Boot could bring himself to read and understand it, the mask would slip, and his true, demonic face would shoot a death-glare at you. Which if you're not pure of heart would melt you into a puddle.

    The simpler way to say it, without all the America as the world's foremost non-nation nation guff, is that Max Boot feels like a foreigner because he is a foreigner. Duh.

    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.Cannot recall a more calamitous television appearance. “Max Boot” on the pages of NR sounded like a really tough guy. But in fact he’s a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    So now that the typical white people have awoken to the insanity of invade/invite/borrow and stopped buying NR and the Weekly Standard and their nonsense ideals, Boot is suddenly “woke”, all concerned with the plight of the underclass? Sure. If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.

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    "If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term."

    They'll ask the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson for a larger annual check than the ones they've been writing over the years. Perhaps they'll send Max Boot to collect it for them.
    , @Miro23

    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.
     
    Boot isn't a fool, he's a well connected Jewish Israel Firster, pretending to be an American.

    You've got to hand it to Carlson. If more Americans like him found the cojones to fight for America First, half of the country's problems would be solved, and Carlson even did it without pointing out that Boot is a Zionist Israel Firster traitor (the US isn't ready for that yet, but at some point it's going to be necessary - and it'll make everything a lot easier with things out in the open).

    The best part was where Carlson points out that Boot isn't a religious/moral authority.
    , @Art Deco
    But in fact he’s a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    His intellect is adequate (he's the issue of a graduate program at Yale). He's never had the chops for lengthy and disciplined scholarly study or for the Foreign Service, however. The video I locate has Carlson slicing up Boot personally, which might be appropriate if he were Boot's editor asked to publish some piece by Boot.
    , @Alden
    Does anyone actually buy or subscribe to NR or Weekly Standard. It's my impression that the only copies in circulation are the ones sent free to college and public libraries.
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  164. @Dave Pinsen
    Frum has his faults but he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.

    He lifts, incidentally. I wonder if that has tilted him right on immigration.

    “he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years.”

    Nope, not even close. That would be Ann Coulter.

    Hi, Ann!

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    In print, it's been Frum.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    He said arguably , YZ. I would also argue that yes, it'd be Ann Coulter - NOT! EVEN! CLOSE! Plus I don't read any garbage from neocons like Frum, so ...
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  165. @Bugg
    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.Cannot recall a more calamitous television appearance. "Max Boot" on the pages of NR sounded like a really tough guy. But in fact he's a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    So now that the typical white people have awoken to the insanity of invade/invite/borrow and stopped buying NR and the Weekly Standard and their nonsense ideals, Boot is suddenly "woke", all concerned with the plight of the underclass? Sure. If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.

    “If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.”

    They’ll ask the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson for a larger annual check than the ones they’ve been writing over the years. Perhaps they’ll send Max Boot to collect it for them.

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  166. @Mr. Blank
    Oh, Trump has revealed deep-seated hatreds, alright. Just not the ones Max Boot thinks.

    I have always been lukewarm about Trump, but there's no doubt that the Trump era has been enormously clarifying.

    Maybe Trump’s greatest service: polarizer/exposer/wheat from the chaff separator-in chief.
    The political landscape has been changed somewhat forever.

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  167. So now that the typical white people have awoken to the insanity of invade/invite/borrow and stopped buying NR and the Weekly Standard and their nonsense ideals, Boot is suddenly “woke”, all concerned with the plight of the underclass? Sure. If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.

    I think it’s more likely that Kristol and Boot are adopting the weapons of their former adversaries against their current adversaries. Boot isn’t examining his “white privilege” in any meaningful sense – he’s creating a pretext to use this weapon by disclaiming his former opposition to its use as contrary to the Marquess of Queensberry Rules of good manners in public debate. He’s just giving himself permission to fight dirty.

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  168. @Art Deco
    And money. Don’t forget money. Tons and tons of money. That’s the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel. You're under the illusion that your loathing of Jews is normal. It isn't.

    It’s far from abnormal insofar as it extends to condemnation of Israeli actions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2334 .

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    It’s far from abnormal insofar as it extends to condemnation of Israeli actions:

    UN employees are abnormal.
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  169. @Bugg
    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.Cannot recall a more calamitous television appearance. "Max Boot" on the pages of NR sounded like a really tough guy. But in fact he's a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    So now that the typical white people have awoken to the insanity of invade/invite/borrow and stopped buying NR and the Weekly Standard and their nonsense ideals, Boot is suddenly "woke", all concerned with the plight of the underclass? Sure. If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.

    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.

    Boot isn’t a fool, he’s a well connected Jewish Israel Firster, pretending to be an American.

    You’ve got to hand it to Carlson. If more Americans like him found the cojones to fight for America First, half of the country’s problems would be solved, and Carlson even did it without pointing out that Boot is a Zionist Israel Firster traitor (the US isn’t ready for that yet, but at some point it’s going to be necessary – and it’ll make everything a lot easier with things out in the open).

    The best part was where Carlson points out that Boot isn’t a religious/moral authority.

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  170. @Art Deco
    Maybe that’s just what it feels like when his unearned Jewish immigrant privilege i

    There is no indication that Boot has ever been 'privileged' in the sense that he occupies some handsome position he couldn't have acquired absent family connections.

    There is no indication that Boot has ever been ‘privileged’ in the sense that he occupies some handsome position he couldn’t have acquired absent family connections.

    I think any foreigner in a position to lecture a nation’s natives about its politics and foreign policy is in a rather privileged position, wouldn’t you?

    Additionally, Boot seems to be among the Russian Jew refuseniks granted special immigration status in the United States, which anyone would conclude is a privilege specially afforded his kind.

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    I think any foreigner in a position to lecture a nation’s natives about its politics and foreign policy is in a rather privileged position, wouldn’t you?

    No. I had a prof many years ago who'd taught at a number of American universities after a stint in the Czech foreign service. I had no reason to believe that the usual hiring standards had been relaxed in his case, or that being unable to visit his cousins for 40-odd years was a privilege.

    Additionally, Boot seems to be among the Russian Jew refuseniks granted special immigration status in the United States, which anyone would conclude is a privilege specially afforded his kind.

    People who managed to make their way out of Communist countries had considerable entree. Looking forward to a stew of complaints about privileged Cubans from unz denizens.

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  171. @Bugg
    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.Cannot recall a more calamitous television appearance. "Max Boot" on the pages of NR sounded like a really tough guy. But in fact he's a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    So now that the typical white people have awoken to the insanity of invade/invite/borrow and stopped buying NR and the Weekly Standard and their nonsense ideals, Boot is suddenly "woke", all concerned with the plight of the underclass? Sure. If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.

    But in fact he’s a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    His intellect is adequate (he’s the issue of a graduate program at Yale). He’s never had the chops for lengthy and disciplined scholarly study or for the Foreign Service, however. The video I locate has Carlson slicing up Boot personally, which might be appropriate if he were Boot’s editor asked to publish some piece by Boot.

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  172. Since Trump won’t satisfy Boot’s appetite for shiny new foreign wars, he’s calling the whole thing off. NeoCon’s are leftists anyway, so he may as well throw his lot in with them to get his Good White hall pass and turn on the country that made the mistake of allowing his family safe harbor from tyranny.

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  173. Forgive me for commenting before reading the other comments, but I had to say it.

    Neocons are simply Trotskyites who learned a bit of basic financial accounting skills. So, they make noises about balancing the budget, while adopting virtually all other positions from the Communist Manifesto, plus the wishes of Coudenhov-Kalergi. I guess their enthusiasm for perpetual war comes from their need for big-money donors to fund their foundations, conventions, and publications.

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    Neocons are simply Trotskyites w

    Seymour Martin Lipset and Irving Kristol belonged to a discussion circle at City College of New York ca. 1939 in which most of the participants were Trotskyists. There's been an acre of embroidery over the last 30 years around this pinhead of fact.
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  174. Max Boot: Man Without A Country.

    Except Israel. And Russia. And he has a US passport.

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    Discount the latter. Back in the USSR, Boot was what was called a безродный космополит, after Stalin purged all the Jewish intellectuals from the KGB and replaced them with ethnic Russians who saw the Soviet Union more as a old-time Muscovite neo-imperium. One that was atheist, technocratically inclined, and aided leftist movements around the world, but a Muscovite neo-imperium with the same complexes, nonetheless.

    Ideologies come and go, wax and wane in intensity with the times. Cultures and national psychologies remain the same. It was true then, and it is true now-especially when you look at Iran, which is going through the same transformation that the USSR did in the 1940s and China did in the 1970s in going back to form after the revolution cemented.

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  175. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Max Boot: Man Without A Country.

    Except Israel. And Russia. And he has a US passport.

    Discount the latter. Back in the USSR, Boot was what was called a безродный космополит, after Stalin purged all the Jewish intellectuals from the KGB and replaced them with ethnic Russians who saw the Soviet Union more as a old-time Muscovite neo-imperium. One that was atheist, technocratically inclined, and aided leftist movements around the world, but a Muscovite neo-imperium with the same complexes, nonetheless.

    Ideologies come and go, wax and wane in intensity with the times. Cultures and national psychologies remain the same. It was true then, and it is true now-especially when you look at Iran, which is going through the same transformation that the USSR did in the 1940s and China did in the 1970s in going back to form after the revolution cemented.

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    Back in the USSR, Boot was

    A six year old kid.
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  176. @Anonymous
    Are there still any Limbaugh style “conservatives” who are gullible enough to think these crowns were ever on our side?

    The irony is that Limbaugh himself was raking Max Boot over the coals the other day. Deservedly.

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  177. ““He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,”

    Go back to Russia. I’m sure you’ll make more money if you join the Jewish mafia there.

    Consider that Abe Foxman, Henry Kissinger and George Soros are all legal immigrants.

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    Consider that Abe Foxman, Henry Kissinger and George Soros are all legal immigrants.

    Why is an accomplished diplomat and academic being lumped in the same bin with an annoying individual employed for decades as a professional complainer and a sketchy financier with skeletons in his closet and a long history of dubious political projects?
    , @Art Deco
    if you join the Jewish mafia there.

    There are 200,000 Jews left in Russia. That's 0.13% of the population.
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  178. @Art Deco
    I don't think either would be in danger of losing their jobs were they to write sensible topical commentary. Some people just go off the rails. See, for example, Wm. F. Buckley's chum Jeffrey Hart, who began when he was past 70 to dabble in conspiracy theories and to offer endorsements of Democratic politicians. Hart wasn't going to lose his pension if he didn't endorse John Kerry; something else was at work there.

    Tamar Jacoby has made it explicit that family history is fuel for her advocacy, so there's likely some of that in Boot's writings and Rubin's. I could imagine that driving a distaste for the sort of national-origins quotas which were a part of immigration law 60 years ago, not driving a distaste for immigration enforcement per se. One thing you find (more manifest in the public utterances of David Brooks) is that in some circles it is considered vulgar and declasse to advocate enforcing the law. The individual I correspond with who evinces this view is a business executive in Ohio who grew up in an ordinary family in Southern California and graduated from Franciscan University of Steubenville. He's a highly intelligent and articulate fellow, so it's odd to see the outbursts he's given to when you start jabbing him on this issue.

    “See, for example, Wm. F. Buckley’s chum Jeffrey Hart, who began when he was past 70 to dabble in conspiracy theories and to offer endorsements of Democratic politicians”

    I’ll never forget Hart’s write-up of a visit by Rush Limbaugh to Buckley’s NY apartment, in the early 1990s or so. Hart deemed it vital to describe Mrs. Buckley’s consternation (expressed solely through body language) when the heavyweight talker seated himself in one of her fragile chairs. Never could take Jeffrey Hart very seriously afterwards.

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  179. @Anonymous

    ... a “white” person — the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….
     
    I tend to think of Irish people as having coloring similar to Snow White's ("... hair as black as ebony, lips as red as the rose, skin as white as snow" or else as redheads with freckles. So yeah, I extend the category of "white" person to them.

    What is it with these various people who keep carrying on about the skin color of Irish people? It's just bizarre. Until fairly recently, I'd never heard anyone suggest that Irish people might not be or might not be considered white.

    Somebody else already posted about the Jew Noel Ignatiev who has been preaching that Whites should be exterminated in America for decades writing the book about how the Irish became White.

    I don’t know why he picked the Irish. They are among the Whitest of the White race ethnic groups.

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    I missed that earlier message, but picking the Irish does seem very odd.
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  180. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    So then, which color? Han Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Or....they could really be white.

    Musial has more WS's rings.

    Williams has 0 WS rings.

    Musial has 3 WS rings.

    Babe Ruth was greater than either, and he has 7 WS rings.

    Williams was mouthier than Musial, to be certain. But in the World Series, when it really counted, Williams batted .200 — he couldn’t even crack the”Mendoza Line”.

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    And that's largely why he has no rings. Couldn't get it done when the money was on the line. Joe DiMaggio, Williams AL counterpart, has 9 rings.
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  181. @Achmed E. Newman
    How can someone this damn stupid be on TV all...the time ... wait, I'm gonna start over, from scratch.

    “He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,” Boot told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.
     
    But, you are Russian, you are Jewish, and you are an immigrant! You need to be honest with yourself before you can quit lying to the rest of us. Perhaps this writing IS a step in the right direction (good for Max Boot, but bad for the blood pressure of anyone who accidentally reads this crap).

    I don't think the guy feels like an outsider in his social circles, as he has gone native, as most of the political, business, and media elites have, especially within Washington, FS. From the 3rd blockquote, his own writing, I don't see how he can be called any kind of conservative. He should fit right in, now. Also, his opinions shed a bit of light into who the neocons really are. They could fit in as conservatives during the Cold War, and that reputation lasted a few more decades. It's obvious now, that the neocons don't give a damn about this nation.

    This guy might not feel like an outsider to the rest of his country, if he'd talk to regular Americans once in in a while.

    . A quarter century is enough time to examine deeply held shibboleths and to see if they comport with reality. … In the last few years, in particular, it has become impossible for me to deny the reality of discrimination, harassment, even violence that people of color and women continue to experience in modern-day America from a power structure that remains for the most part in the hands of straight, white males. People like me, in other words.
     
    See, a quarter century, and this guy has never gotten out of the house, apparently! It's all in his head.

    https://www,youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY

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    shibboleth
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    noun
    a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people, especially a long-standing one regarded as outmoded or no longer important.

    See Boot, Max; Kristol, Bill; Brooks, David.

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    OK, the reason I wrote "Whaaaaa?" to Mr. Deco was I didn't know why he was replying to me rather than Mr. Boot. I'm the middleman, just a poor commenter ... an errand boy sent by grocery clerks.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding, Mr. Deco (what kinda name is that anyway, sounds eyetalian or Greek - were you originally Mr. Decopapolis?)
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  182. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    There is no indication that Boot has ever been ‘privileged’ in the sense that he occupies some handsome position he couldn’t have acquired absent family connections.
     
    I think any foreigner in a position to lecture a nation's natives about its politics and foreign policy is in a rather privileged position, wouldn't you?

    Additionally, Boot seems to be among the Russian Jew refuseniks granted special immigration status in the United States, which anyone would conclude is a privilege specially afforded his kind.

    I think any foreigner in a position to lecture a nation’s natives about its politics and foreign policy is in a rather privileged position, wouldn’t you?

    No. I had a prof many years ago who’d taught at a number of American universities after a stint in the Czech foreign service. I had no reason to believe that the usual hiring standards had been relaxed in his case, or that being unable to visit his cousins for 40-odd years was a privilege.

    Additionally, Boot seems to be among the Russian Jew refuseniks granted special immigration status in the United States, which anyone would conclude is a privilege specially afforded his kind.

    People who managed to make their way out of Communist countries had considerable entree. Looking forward to a stew of complaints about privileged Cubans from unz denizens.

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  183. @John Gruskos

    they were more likely victims of the pogroms
     
    They were more likely commissars and NKVD officers systematically starving Russian and Ukrainian peasants during the Red Terror and collectivization.

    Couldn’t agree more.

    There are, in the archives of most European countries, The USA, and most S. American countries reports from their diplomats stationed in Russia denying that any pogroms took place. The reports claim that the pogroms were just Jewish propaganda designed to:

    1. Scam money and help from Montefiore, Warurg, etc wealthy Jews.

    2. Facilitate migration to prosperous countries, such as S Africa, USA, Argentina etc

    Anyone who wants to dig around in our Library of Congress and State Department Archives is free to do so.

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  184. @Bugg
    Tucker Carlson got Boot riled enough that the mask fell off completely and showed everyone the guy wearing the mask is a total fool.Cannot recall a more calamitous television appearance. "Max Boot" on the pages of NR sounded like a really tough guy. But in fact he's a doughy,scared babbling fool without much intellect.

    So now that the typical white people have awoken to the insanity of invade/invite/borrow and stopped buying NR and the Weekly Standard and their nonsense ideals, Boot is suddenly "woke", all concerned with the plight of the underclass? Sure. If you are Bill Kristol or Jonah Goldberg, you must be wondering where the money for the think tanks and magazine subscriptions are going to come form long term.

    Does anyone actually buy or subscribe to NR or Weekly Standard. It’s my impression that the only copies in circulation are the ones sent free to college and public libraries.

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  185. @Alden
    "“He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,”

    Go back to Russia. I'm sure you'll make more money if you join the Jewish mafia there.

    Consider that Abe Foxman, Henry Kissinger and George Soros are all legal immigrants.

    Consider that Abe Foxman, Henry Kissinger and George Soros are all legal immigrants.

    Why is an accomplished diplomat and academic being lumped in the same bin with an annoying individual employed for decades as a professional complainer and a sketchy financier with skeletons in his closet and a long history of dubious political projects?

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    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?
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  186. @Alden
    "“He’s making me feel like an outsider, a Russian, a Jew, an immigrant,”

    Go back to Russia. I'm sure you'll make more money if you join the Jewish mafia there.

    Consider that Abe Foxman, Henry Kissinger and George Soros are all legal immigrants.

    if you join the Jewish mafia there.

    There are 200,000 Jews left in Russia. That’s 0.13% of the population.

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    Semion Mogilevich and his mafia are still going strong.
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  187. @nebulafox
    Discount the latter. Back in the USSR, Boot was what was called a безродный космополит, after Stalin purged all the Jewish intellectuals from the KGB and replaced them with ethnic Russians who saw the Soviet Union more as a old-time Muscovite neo-imperium. One that was atheist, technocratically inclined, and aided leftist movements around the world, but a Muscovite neo-imperium with the same complexes, nonetheless.

    Ideologies come and go, wax and wane in intensity with the times. Cultures and national psychologies remain the same. It was true then, and it is true now-especially when you look at Iran, which is going through the same transformation that the USSR did in the 1940s and China did in the 1970s in going back to form after the revolution cemented.

    Back in the USSR, Boot was

    A six year old kid.

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  188. @RonaldB
    Forgive me for commenting before reading the other comments, but I had to say it.

    Neocons are simply Trotskyites who learned a bit of basic financial accounting skills. So, they make noises about balancing the budget, while adopting virtually all other positions from the Communist Manifesto, plus the wishes of Coudenhov-Kalergi. I guess their enthusiasm for perpetual war comes from their need for big-money donors to fund their foundations, conventions, and publications.

    Neocons are simply Trotskyites w

    Seymour Martin Lipset and Irving Kristol belonged to a discussion circle at City College of New York ca. 1939 in which most of the participants were Trotskyists. There’s been an acre of embroidery over the last 30 years around this pinhead of fact.

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    Seymour Martin Lipset and Irving Kristol belonged to a discussion circle at City College of New York ca. 1939 in which most of the participants were Trotskyists. There’s been an acre of embroidery over the last 30 years around this pinhead of fact.
     
    Not just "most of the participants were Trotskyists". Kristol was one too:

    "It was Trilling who, as early as my college years, and even while I was a Trotskyist,...."

    - Irving Kristol

    http://delong.typepad.com/egregious_moderation/2009/10/irving-kristol-my-cold-war-april-1-1993.html

    What happened to your legendary Google-Fu, Librarian?

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  189. @Anon
    It's far from abnormal insofar as it extends to condemnation of Israeli actions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2334 .

    It’s far from abnormal insofar as it extends to condemnation of Israeli actions:

    UN employees are abnormal.

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    If some specific Cuban subethnicity had been given immigration preference, sure, that would have been privilege.
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  190. @LondonBob
    The cultural influence of the British Caribbean on the US, especially the deep south, is a much under studied factor. It is a shame the Hamilton fad hasn't at least led to one interesting and neglected valid path of analysis.

    Boot is the true American, all the rest of you are just visiting.

    The cultural influence of the British Caribbean on the US, especially the deep south, is a much under studied factor. It is a shame the Hamilton fad hasn’t at least led to one interesting and neglected valid path of analysis.

    There’s a brief-but-fascinating bit in Fischer’s Albion Seed where he discusses the role played by settlers from Barbados in the shaping of colonial South Carolina.

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  191. @Alden
    Somebody else already posted about the Jew Noel Ignatiev who has been preaching that Whites should be exterminated in America for decades writing the book about how the Irish became White.

    I don't know why he picked the Irish. They are among the Whitest of the White race ethnic groups.

    I missed that earlier message, but picking the Irish does seem very odd.

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  192. @Gunner
    Lefties still hate these guys for supporting Dubya.

    Lefties still hate these guys for supporting Dubya.

    Dunno. W is getting the “strange, new respect” treatment these days.Remember, he loves the Latinx…..

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    A lot of British islands in the Caribbean were Spanish or French or whatever from the 16th century into the 17th or 18th centuries, so they retain some Latin cultural traits. For example, Jamaica still has more of a color continuum than a color line, despite England grabbing Jamaica from the Spanish in the 1650s.
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  193. @dr kill
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    See Boot, Max; Kristol, Bill; Brooks, David.

    OK, the reason I wrote “Whaaaaa?” to Mr. Deco was I didn’t know why he was replying to me rather than Mr. Boot. I’m the middleman, just a poor commenter … an errand boy sent by grocery clerks.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding, Mr. Deco (what kinda name is that anyway, sounds eyetalian or Greek – were you originally Mr. Decopapolis?)

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  194. Boot is utterly loathsome. He and his fellow neoconservatives are true subversives. The good folks at MSNBC have welcomed him in due to his hatred of the orange one. Seeing him on the same stage with racialist Joy Reed and negrophile Lawrence O’Donnell is vomit-inducing, but it does add clarity to the situation we face.

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    Well, I never heard the Bernie Sanders/Robert Reich types praise the military/industrial complex. They complain that Trump would cut social programs and up the military spending. So, if Boot like military spending the left wing part of the Dems is against it.
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  195. @LondonBob
    Scotland was ruled by the Scottish King, who happened to be a German, who was also the King of Hanover and of England, amongst others.

    Yeah, yeah. But I think you know George II was king of Scotland because England ruled over Scotland, the Scots having lost their independence and subsequently their little rebellions.

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  196. @timothy

    “the catchall category that has been extended to include everyone from a Mayflower descendant to a recently arrived illegal immigrant from Ireland….“
     
    Mayflower descendent is supposed to mean “elite” here. #Actually, there’s a big difference between the Pilgrims and the Puritans who came later to Massachusetts and set the intellectual tone. A guy like Gregory Clark could probably discern the class difference via surname analysis this many years later

    Not surprised Max Boot is ignorant about the details of American History prior to the Cold War. As distant and irrelevant as the War of the Roses, as the more honest Norman Podhoretz once blurted out about the Civil War.

    Very true. I cannot resist a story I may well have told before here: a Boston Brahmin lady was once asked if she descended from Mayflower stock.
    She sniffed: “Certainly not: those were our servants, sent over to get things ready for us.” By “us” she meant the Winthrop fleet descendants, who were perhaps the most emblematic of the later, well-educated and grimly Puritan of the original Massachusetts stock.
    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence – a Harding or a Nixon might be caught doing it, but a Roosevelt (either of them) or a Bush – not to mention an actual Winthrop! – never would.
    I say this, by the way, as someone who rates Nixon as the best president in my lifetime.

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    I say this, by the way, as someone who rates Nixon as the best president in my lifetime.

    Nixon put Arthur Burns in charge of the Federal Reserve, made use of extant legislation in instituting wage-and-price controls, put his signature on legislation controlling crude oil prices, promoted twee nonsense to 'conserve energy' (year-round Daylight Savings Time; national speed limits), put his signature on legislation promoting cack-handed command-and-control regulations in the realm of health-and-safety promotion and environmental improvement, and put his imprimatur on a series of hare-brained schemes to engage in domestic espionage and harass political opponents (most of them unimplemented, but, crucially, not all). He also co-operated with Congress in making public sector deficits of considerable size the norm. You had deficits during the Kennedy-Johnson years, but they were contextually much smaller. He was also a wretched administrator (see books by John Dean and Richard Nathan which give you an idea of just how). I realize he was responsible for some creative initiatives as well (including Creighton Abrams work in VietNam). You really should demand better performance. The man's Administration was a 5 year long cautionary tale.
    , @Art Deco
    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence

    And how many people have you met who actually do that? How many public figures? There was Sydney Biddle Barrows, being campy.
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  197. @Art Deco
    Consider that Abe Foxman, Henry Kissinger and George Soros are all legal immigrants.

    Why is an accomplished diplomat and academic being lumped in the same bin with an annoying individual employed for decades as a professional complainer and a sketchy financier with skeletons in his closet and a long history of dubious political projects?

    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?

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    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?
     
    Maybe. He is an honorary member of Bayern Munich, after all, which isn't even his club.

    But, like Churchill, Heinz Alfred had some good qualities and was good with a quip. And, unlike Soros, he was on our side during the war, naturalized while in boot camp in South Carolina.
    , @Art Deco
    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?

    Tiresome office politician, yes. (Though I gather he didn't in dealing with Gerald Ford try to play the sort of games he played with Richard Nixon; Alexander Haig tried that crap with Reagan, who got fed up and fired him). Unpleasant person to work for, arguably. (Of interest to the 30-odd people on his staff, to Wm. Rogers, to Donald Rumsfeld, and to miscellaneous Harvard faculty). Egocentric, aye. (How many retired cabinet secretaries thought they needed a guard detail, 24/7? His went into business in lieu of returning to academe in order to pay the guards' salaries).

    Kissinger was a votary of fairly dreary notions of realpolitik. Don't know why that would bother Unz types, given the self-concept that seems prevalent here. Christopher Hitchens, Sydney Schanberg, and Wm. Shawcross and the cretins at the Institute for Policy Studies tried to promote the notion that he was responsible for all the trouble in the world which occurred between 1968 and 1977. In Hitchens' case, this extended to Indonesia's gruesome counter-insurgency in East Timor, nearly all of which occurred after he'd left office. Shawcross (and Schanberg) held him responsible for the Khmer Rouges depredations in Cambodia; if you need a socially acceptable villain, I guess anyone in the daisy chain will do; helps to have some Foreign Service ticket-punchers to supply quotations. (Do you really think the U.S. Air Force was taking orders from a Foreign Service lifer in Phnom Penh? Shawcross did).
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  198. @Clyde
    Max Boot takes himself far too seriously. We need more Jews/half Jews like Warren Zevon. A credit to the Hebraic race.

    That realization comes almost immediately with the next tune, “Roland, The Headless Thompson Gunner”. Zevon wrote this one with a bartender and ex-mercenary David Lindell. Zevon sings about Roland, a Norwegian machine-gunner who travels with mercenaries in Africa. “They fought the Congo War with their fingers on their triggers, knee-deep in gore,” sings Zevon, alluding to the mass African genocide that attracted many a foreign investor.

    Roland’s skill with the Thompson gun gets noticed by the CIA, which persuades his friend Van Owen to blow his head off. Then Roland’s tale turns into a ghost story as he seeks revenge on Van Owen, who he finds in Mombassa—”Roland aimed his Thompson gun—he didn’t say a word. But he blew Van Owen’s body from there to Johannesburg.” The Thompson Gunner still wanders through the night after that, haunting the world and symbolizing not only the ugliness of genocide, but the ugliness of wars founded by other countries. By the end of this ghost story, the CIA has blood on its hands.
     

    http://observer.com/2016/10/how-warren-zevons-excitable-boy-brings-the-horrors-of-history-to-life/

    Warren Zevon = awesome

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  199. @ex-banker
    Yojimbo/Zatoichi's baseball takes are consistently worse than Max Boot's on foreign policy. Fortunately, the stakes are much lower.

    So Scott Brosius (3 rings) is better than Adrian Beltre (0 rings)?

    No, Reggie Jackson (5 rings) is greater than Adrian Beltre. WS Rings are not the only component in determining MLB greatness, HOWEVER they are in fact a major component.

    A while back I made the point that HOFer Ralph Kiner (led the NL in HR’s for seven consecutive seasons and had one of the best HR per time AB in the middle twentieth century) was unceremoniously traded away to the Cubs. Why?

    “We can finish in last place without you.”–HOFer GM Branch Rickey. Also notice that few fans instantly recall Ralph Kiner today, except perhaps as announcer for NY Mets.

    In other words, exceptional claims demand exceptional evidence. Which do the majority of fans like to watch? Great individual players or teams winning the WS? If the individual star is so great, then he should be contributing to his team’s ability to go to the WS. It is exceptional, however, when the blessed few individuals are also able to consistently lead their teams to the WS and a championship ring.

    While there is no “I” in T-E-A-M, as NBA HOFer Michael Jordan (6 rings) stated “There IS an “I” in W-I-N.”

    Get ‘er done. That’s what mainly counts in sports. Yogi Berra (10 rings) is also in the HOF and is considered one of the best AL defensive catchers of the 20th century. So it can be done (being individually great and contributing to WS).

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    Keep moving the goal posts. So, was Brosius greater than Beltre? You wisely dodged that one.

    By your own argument, Yogi was greater than Ruth, I guess.

    As a colleague once noted, you can't argue with an idiot.
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  200. @Russ
    Williams was mouthier than Musial, to be certain. But in the World Series, when it really counted, Williams batted .200 -- he couldn't even crack the"Mendoza Line".

    And that’s largely why he has no rings. Couldn’t get it done when the money was on the line. Joe DiMaggio, Williams AL counterpart, has 9 rings.

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  201. @guest
    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?

    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?

    Maybe. He is an honorary member of Bayern Munich, after all, which isn’t even his club.

    But, like Churchill, Heinz Alfred had some good qualities and was good with a quip. And, unlike Soros, he was on our side during the war, naturalized while in boot camp in South Carolina.

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  202. @anon
    They would have been "rehabilitated" either way, because if Hillary had won, they would have just joined up with her. That's what Frum actually did. And when that happened, do you think the media would be even slightly critical about anything they did? I doubt it.

    That's one of the fascinating things about slime. You can crush it or cut it up or do whatever you want to it, but it still manages to go on being slime, no matter what.

    What if you burn it?

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  203. @Art Deco
    if you join the Jewish mafia there.

    There are 200,000 Jews left in Russia. That's 0.13% of the population.

    Semion Mogilevich and his mafia are still going strong.

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    Sicilianate mob families in the U.S. ca. 1985 had a mean of 70 full members. Not many job opportunities for Alden's fantasy Joos to take advantage of.
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  204. @AnotherDad

    The problem is obvious: the R’s have been the Washington Generals for so long, what happens when an opposition, non-lefty party actually starts fighting?
     
    "Actually starts fighting?" Is there even the remotest sign of that?

    Heck, we can't even get Republican politicians to articulate the basic issues.

    Then remove/retool them with those who can.

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  205. @Michael Soeren
    In what sense is Boot being rehabilitated? His vicious, reptilian nature seems to emerge only in bolder relief. Did you see his "interview" (more shout-fest) on Tucker Carlson? You could almost see fangs!
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  206. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    No, Reggie Jackson (5 rings) is greater than Adrian Beltre. WS Rings are not the only component in determining MLB greatness, HOWEVER they are in fact a major component.

    A while back I made the point that HOFer Ralph Kiner (led the NL in HR's for seven consecutive seasons and had one of the best HR per time AB in the middle twentieth century) was unceremoniously traded away to the Cubs. Why?

    "We can finish in last place without you."--HOFer GM Branch Rickey. Also notice that few fans instantly recall Ralph Kiner today, except perhaps as announcer for NY Mets.

    In other words, exceptional claims demand exceptional evidence. Which do the majority of fans like to watch? Great individual players or teams winning the WS? If the individual star is so great, then he should be contributing to his team's ability to go to the WS. It is exceptional, however, when the blessed few individuals are also able to consistently lead their teams to the WS and a championship ring.

    While there is no "I" in T-E-A-M, as NBA HOFer Michael Jordan (6 rings) stated "There IS an "I" in W-I-N."

    Get 'er done. That's what mainly counts in sports. Yogi Berra (10 rings) is also in the HOF and is considered one of the best AL defensive catchers of the 20th century. So it can be done (being individually great and contributing to WS).

    Keep moving the goal posts. So, was Brosius greater than Beltre? You wisely dodged that one.

    By your own argument, Yogi was greater than Ruth, I guess.

    As a colleague once noted, you can’t argue with an idiot.

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    If you have to resort to name calling, you've lost the argument. My main point was exceptional claims demand exceptional evidence.

    I didn't answer your question of whether or not Adrian Beltre and Scott Brosius are equals because that isn't an accurate comparison. Someone of Adrian Beltre stature needs to be compared to an equivalent individual of his talents. Because at the beginning of his career, Beltre had definite promise to be a really great player.

    A more apt and accurate example: Is Derek Jeter greater than Adrian Beltre? The answer of course, is yes. Jeter is a first ballot HOFer, has 5 rings, and when he retired was fourth on the all time career base hit list. Indirectly you actually made my point. Compared to Derek Jeter, Adrian Beltre won't be long remembered 10-20 yrs after he calls it quits. Mainly because, he never got the job done.

    Similar to this: Older MLB Fan exclaims to kid "You should've seen so and so! He was so great at bat and in the field!"
    Younger fan "How'd he do in the WS?"
    Older MLB fan "Uh...he never played in one."
    Younger fan. "If he was all that, how come he failed to help his team win when it mattered the most?"

    Certainly this is understood with the NFL, where the Super Bowl is the final judgment of determining great players's ability to get it done when it matters most.

    In PIT, there's Bradshaw, Franco, Stallworth, Swann, Joe Greene, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham, Mel Blount, to name a few. All of these players are in the HOF. All were dominant and among the greatest in the league for long stretches of their career. And, as among the greatest of the greatest to ever play in the NFL, they got it done when it mattered the most. All these HOF players have 4 SB rings, a large reason as to why they are still remembered.

    I'm tempted to assign the blame to Bill James (or at least his successors) who made sabermetrics the be all and end all and yet forgot why MLBers largely play the game. For big contracts, that's a given. The other reason? Winning the WS. Whereas Sabermetrics appears at times to minimize the traditional reasons for why teams win the WS, and particularly those teams (e.g. NY) that consistently win for many years at at a time. While showing insight into the parts, the whole, or at least the big picture, tends to be underestimated if not outright avoided in Sabermetrics.

    Another example: Billy Beane and Moneyball. The A's were loaded with talent ca.1999-2003. How many WS did they apear in during this time? Answer: None. Meanwhile, NY (which officially came somewhat late to the whole Moneyball/Sabermetrics ideology) went to the WS in '99, '00, 01' and '03. And won the WS in '99 and '00. Moneyball doesn't always give the big picture. With all of OAK's talent and still they couldn't get it done? That's on them, and frankly, many of their players won't be instantly remembered years after their retirement. Also, people tend to remember individually great MLBers according to "Did they get the job done? Did they win the WS? If they were all that, then they should've gotten the job done."

    Why do you think the NY Yankees remain the greatest North American sports franchise of the 20th century? Because they WON the most WS. Certainly their history is loaded with individually great players. And these great players got the job done when it mattered the most. Not in April thru September, but in October when it counts the most.

    Truly great players show up in the biggest game on the biggest stage.

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  207. @Art Deco
    It’s far from abnormal insofar as it extends to condemnation of Israeli actions:

    UN employees are abnormal.

    If some specific Cuban subethnicity had been given immigration preference, sure, that would have been privilege.

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  208. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years."

    Nope, not even close. That would be Ann Coulter.

    Hi, Ann!

    In print, it’s been Frum.

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  209. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hmmm… now, when will Boot realize he has Jewish Privilege, something far more precious than lame ‘white privilege’. After all, both parties praise Israel to the hilt, bail out Wall Street, never criticize or even notice immensity of Jewish Power, and denounce any nation hated by Jews. Poor Iran and Russia. And while US elites denounce Polish & Hungarian patriotism, they are fully supportive of the far-right nationalism of Israel.

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  210. @guest
    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?

    Wild guess: because Kissinger was evil?

    Tiresome office politician, yes. (Though I gather he didn’t in dealing with Gerald Ford try to play the sort of games he played with Richard Nixon; Alexander Haig tried that crap with Reagan, who got fed up and fired him). Unpleasant person to work for, arguably. (Of interest to the 30-odd people on his staff, to Wm. Rogers, to Donald Rumsfeld, and to miscellaneous Harvard faculty). Egocentric, aye. (How many retired cabinet secretaries thought they needed a guard detail, 24/7? His went into business in lieu of returning to academe in order to pay the guards’ salaries).

    Kissinger was a votary of fairly dreary notions of realpolitik. Don’t know why that would bother Unz types, given the self-concept that seems prevalent here. Christopher Hitchens, Sydney Schanberg, and Wm. Shawcross and the cretins at the Institute for Policy Studies tried to promote the notion that he was responsible for all the trouble in the world which occurred between 1968 and 1977. In Hitchens’ case, this extended to Indonesia’s gruesome counter-insurgency in East Timor, nearly all of which occurred after he’d left office. Shawcross (and Schanberg) held him responsible for the Khmer Rouges depredations in Cambodia; if you need a socially acceptable villain, I guess anyone in the daisy chain will do; helps to have some Foreign Service ticket-punchers to supply quotations. (Do you really think the U.S. Air Force was taking orders from a Foreign Service lifer in Phnom Penh? Shawcross did).

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  211. @LondonBob
    Semion Mogilevich and his mafia are still going strong.

    Sicilianate mob families in the U.S. ca. 1985 had a mean of 70 full members. Not many job opportunities for Alden’s fantasy Joos to take advantage of.

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    On the other hand, a superb opportunity to corner the market.
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  212. @Old Palo Altan
    Very true. I cannot resist a story I may well have told before here: a Boston Brahmin lady was once asked if she descended from Mayflower stock.
    She sniffed: "Certainly not: those were our servants, sent over to get things ready for us." By "us" she meant the Winthrop fleet descendants, who were perhaps the most emblematic of the later, well-educated and grimly Puritan of the original Massachusetts stock.
    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence - a Harding or a Nixon might be caught doing it, but a Roosevelt (either of them) or a Bush - not to mention an actual Winthrop! - never would.
    I say this, by the way, as someone who rates Nixon as the best president in my lifetime.

    I say this, by the way, as someone who rates Nixon as the best president in my lifetime.

    Nixon put Arthur Burns in charge of the Federal Reserve, made use of extant legislation in instituting wage-and-price controls, put his signature on legislation controlling crude oil prices, promoted twee nonsense to ‘conserve energy’ (year-round Daylight Savings Time; national speed limits), put his signature on legislation promoting cack-handed command-and-control regulations in the realm of health-and-safety promotion and environmental improvement, and put his imprimatur on a series of hare-brained schemes to engage in domestic espionage and harass political opponents (most of them unimplemented, but, crucially, not all). He also co-operated with Congress in making public sector deficits of considerable size the norm. You had deficits during the Kennedy-Johnson years, but they were contextually much smaller. He was also a wretched administrator (see books by John Dean and Richard Nathan which give you an idea of just how). I realize he was responsible for some creative initiatives as well (including Creighton Abrams work in VietNam). You really should demand better performance. The man’s Administration was a 5 year long cautionary tale.

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  213. @Old Palo Altan
    Very true. I cannot resist a story I may well have told before here: a Boston Brahmin lady was once asked if she descended from Mayflower stock.
    She sniffed: "Certainly not: those were our servants, sent over to get things ready for us." By "us" she meant the Winthrop fleet descendants, who were perhaps the most emblematic of the later, well-educated and grimly Puritan of the original Massachusetts stock.
    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence - a Harding or a Nixon might be caught doing it, but a Roosevelt (either of them) or a Bush - not to mention an actual Winthrop! - never would.
    I say this, by the way, as someone who rates Nixon as the best president in my lifetime.

    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence

    And how many people have you met who actually do that? How many public figures? There was Sydney Biddle Barrows, being campy.

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    You really should demand better performance. The man’s Administration was a 5 year long cautionary tale.
     
    I believe Nixon also bequeathed to us the Hispanic category and the associated ethnic quotas and set-asides. I don't understand why anyone thinks Nixon was a good president. He lost Vietnam and came up with all kinds of cockamamie liberal schemes in the domestic sphere. Not to mention he set the current Chinese juggernaut in motion by recognizing Communist China. Watergate was no big deal and the least of his missteps.
    , @Anon
    There's no such thing as an "Unz type" outside your imagination.
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  214. @Twodees Partain
    "once a Jewish approved candidate takes back control of the white house"

    Lately, that has been happening every 8 years.

    Yes but not with Trump. Thus all the hysteria manufactured by the media

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  215. @Art Deco
    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence

    And how many people have you met who actually do that? How many public figures? There was Sydney Biddle Barrows, being campy.

    You really should demand better performance. The man’s Administration was a 5 year long cautionary tale.

    I believe Nixon also bequeathed to us the Hispanic category and the associated ethnic quotas and set-asides. I don’t understand why anyone thinks Nixon was a good president. He lost Vietnam and came up with all kinds of cockamamie liberal schemes in the domestic sphere. Not to mention he set the current Chinese juggernaut in motion by recognizing Communist China. Watergate was no big deal and the least of his missteps.

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    He won Vietnam. We had hardly any casualties in repelling the Easter Offensive launched by hundreds of thousands of North Vietnamese with (I was told) more armor than the Germans in '41. Then we abandoned our satellite and the Russkis didn't abandon theirs, and two years later (which the Northerners needed to replace their shattered army) that was that.
    , @Alden
    Affirmative action really got going when Nixon was President.

    He created section 8. He attached disability for immigrants who never put a dime into social security to the social security agency. He funded thousands of liberal legal assistance and other liberal activist organizations. Those organizations then sued the government and forced school bussing. Affirmative action and other non White judicial orders.

    He was the one who accomplished everything LBJ and the socialists only dreamed of.
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  216. @Anon
    Jewish Divide-and-Conquer tactics might set both sides against them.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.
    And if whites are vilified, non-whites will come to see Jews as enemies since Jews are white.

    So far, Jews used white gentiles against Muslims, and then used Muslims + Diversity against whites.

    But if Jews keep blaming whites for everything, more whites will be 'red-pilled'.
    And there is no way Jews can avoid the white label. If whites denounced as bad, non-whites will see Jews as bad whites.
    Thus, Jews will get hate from both whites and non-whites. Whites will hate Jews for anti-white vitriol, and non-whites will hate Jews for being white.

    The more Jews vilify whites, whites might come to see Jews as enemies.

    That won’t happen because most white people are entirely unaware of Jewish animosity towards them. It does help when you have total control of the media, entertainment, academia and government.

    Whites might develop an awareness that they are getting screwed but they’ll just assume it’s all the fault of the Muslims because the Muslims are visible and obviously different.

    It would be nice to think that one day whites and Muslims will recognise that they have a common enemy but I wouldn’t hold my breath. And when I say common enemy I mean the liberal elites, not Jews as such.

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  217. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "he has been arguably the best immigration restrictionist pundit in the mainstream media in recent years."

    Nope, not even close. That would be Ann Coulter.

    Hi, Ann!

    He said arguably , YZ. I would also argue that yes, it’d be Ann Coulter – NOT! EVEN! CLOSE! Plus I don’t read any garbage from neocons like Frum, so …

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  218. @16 – TGGP says: One thing that occurs to me: are straight people actually overrepresented in say, Congress, relative to their share of the overall population?

    Because the most important bloody thing in the world is where a man puts his dick at night. Not – for instance – whether he tend to vote in favour of pointless wars; or is just plain stupid.

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  219. @Art Deco
    Neocons are simply Trotskyites w

    Seymour Martin Lipset and Irving Kristol belonged to a discussion circle at City College of New York ca. 1939 in which most of the participants were Trotskyists. There's been an acre of embroidery over the last 30 years around this pinhead of fact.

    Seymour Martin Lipset and Irving Kristol belonged to a discussion circle at City College of New York ca. 1939 in which most of the participants were Trotskyists. There’s been an acre of embroidery over the last 30 years around this pinhead of fact.

    Not just “most of the participants were Trotskyists”. Kristol was one too:

    “It was Trilling who, as early as my college years, and even while I was a Trotskyist,….”

    - Irving Kristol

    http://delong.typepad.com/egregious_moderation/2009/10/irving-kristol-my-cold-war-april-1-1993.html

    What happened to your legendary Google-Fu, Librarian?

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    Not just “most of the participants were Trotskyists”. Kristol was one too:

    So what? Kristol abandoned Trotskyism in 1942. He never promoted anything remotely similar in a career as an editor extending over 50 years. Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter were never associated with any odd or unconventional political currents. Neither was Joseph Epstein. Nor were Jeane and Evron Kirkpatrick. Nor was Elliot Abrams. Nor was Ben Wattenberg. Sidney Hook was, but he didn't publish in starboard outlets or participate in Republican political circles.

    N.B. National Review published a raft of people over the years who had once been Communist Party members or just outside of it, among them Whittaker Chambers, James Burnham, and Ralph de Toledano. Russell Kirk cast a ballot for Norman Thomas in 1940. For some reason this never bothered Joseph Sobran during his employment there.

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  220. @Art Deco
    And money. Don’t forget money. Tons and tons of money. That’s the real secret ingredient; the US political class gives Zionism a pass because money.

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel. You're under the illusion that your loathing of Jews is normal. It isn't.

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel.

    No, but apparently many politicians have to be bought off to put another country’s interests ahead of their own. Or, what is it exactly that canny businessmen like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban are spending their money for? What is the purpose of AIPAC then?

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    No, but apparently many politicians have to be bought off to put another country’s interests ahead of their own.

    There's nothing notable in America's dealings with Israel which harms our 'interests'. Unz gargoyles tend to fancy America's 'interests' dovetail with their gratuitous resentments, which is just silly.
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  221. @Art Deco
    Do we imagine NR lives off of subscriptions and fundraising?

    Pretty much. Their income sources are listed in their IRS 990 form. One of their contributors was raked over the coals some years back for doing contract work for a federal agency (an HHS component, IIRC) and one was a professor at the Naval War College. That's as close as they get to a government dole. Some of their foundation pipelines might be compromising. Lowry's employment of Jason Lee Steorts has a musty odor.

    Pretty much. Their income sources are listed in their IRS 990 form.

    Is there a line item on that form for “secret CIA funding?” That’s what commenter “guest” was talking about.

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    Is there a line item on that form for “secret CIA funding?”

    Of course not. The notion they're funded by the CIA is a fantasy.
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  222. Max Boot: Trump ‘making me feel like a foreigner’ in my own country

    He is.

    No discussion of Boot would be complete without a link to Boot’s appearence on the Tucker Carlson show:

    Boot truly is a loathsome prick. He even looks like a penis wearing a suit.

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  223. @syonredux

    Lefties still hate these guys for supporting Dubya.
     
    Dunno. W is getting the "strange, new respect" treatment these days.Remember, he loves the Latinx.....

    A lot of British islands in the Caribbean were Spanish or French or whatever from the 16th century into the 17th or 18th centuries, so they retain some Latin cultural traits. For example, Jamaica still has more of a color continuum than a color line, despite England grabbing Jamaica from the Spanish in the 1650s.

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  224. @Art Deco
    Sicilianate mob families in the U.S. ca. 1985 had a mean of 70 full members. Not many job opportunities for Alden's fantasy Joos to take advantage of.

    On the other hand, a superb opportunity to corner the market.

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  225. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Johann Ricke

    You really should demand better performance. The man’s Administration was a 5 year long cautionary tale.
     
    I believe Nixon also bequeathed to us the Hispanic category and the associated ethnic quotas and set-asides. I don't understand why anyone thinks Nixon was a good president. He lost Vietnam and came up with all kinds of cockamamie liberal schemes in the domestic sphere. Not to mention he set the current Chinese juggernaut in motion by recognizing Communist China. Watergate was no big deal and the least of his missteps.

    He won Vietnam. We had hardly any casualties in repelling the Easter Offensive launched by hundreds of thousands of North Vietnamese with (I was told) more armor than the Germans in ’41. Then we abandoned our satellite and the Russkis didn’t abandon theirs, and two years later (which the Northerners needed to replace their shattered army) that was that.

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    He won Vietnam. We had hardly any casualties in repelling the Easter Offensive launched by hundreds of thousands of North Vietnamese with (I was told) more armor than the Germans in ’41. Then we abandoned our satellite and the Russkis didn’t abandon theirs, and two years later (which the Northerners needed to replace their shattered army) that was that.

     

    Yep. And it sure wasn't Nixon who abandoned the South Vietnamese.
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  226. @Art Deco
    In my experience those who brag of Mayflower ancestry are always of no particular social eminence

    And how many people have you met who actually do that? How many public figures? There was Sydney Biddle Barrows, being campy.

    There’s no such thing as an “Unz type” outside your imagination.

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    There’s no such thing as an “Unz type” outside your imagination.

    If lies help you feel better...
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  227. @ex-banker
    Keep moving the goal posts. So, was Brosius greater than Beltre? You wisely dodged that one.

    By your own argument, Yogi was greater than Ruth, I guess.

    As a colleague once noted, you can't argue with an idiot.

    If you have to resort to name calling, you’ve lost the argument. My main point was exceptional claims demand exceptional evidence.

    I didn’t answer your question of whether or not Adrian Beltre and Scott Brosius are equals because that isn’t an accurate comparison. Someone of Adrian Beltre stature needs to be compared to an equivalent individual of his talents. Because at the beginning of his career, Beltre had definite promise to be a really great player.

    A more apt and accurate example: Is Derek Jeter greater than Adrian Beltre? The answer of course, is yes. Jeter is a first ballot HOFer, has 5 rings, and when he retired was fourth on the all time career base hit list. Indirectly you actually made my point. Compared to Derek Jeter, Adrian Beltre won’t be long remembered 10-20 yrs after he calls it quits. Mainly because, he never got the job done.

    Similar to this: Older MLB Fan exclaims to kid “You should’ve seen so and so! He was so great at bat and in the field!”
    Younger fan “How’d he do in the WS?”
    Older MLB fan “Uh…he never played in one.”
    Younger fan. “If he was all that, how come he failed to help his team win when it mattered the most?”

    Certainly this is understood with the NFL, where the Super Bowl is the final judgment of determining great players’s ability to get it done when it matters most.

    In PIT, there’s Bradshaw, Franco, Stallworth, Swann, Joe Greene, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham, Mel Blount, to name a few. All of these players are in the HOF. All were dominant and among the greatest in the league for long stretches of their career. And, as among the greatest of the greatest to ever play in the NFL, they got it done when it mattered the most. All these HOF players have 4 SB rings, a large reason as to why they are still remembered.

    I’m tempted to assign the blame to Bill James (or at least his successors) who made sabermetrics the be all and end all and yet forgot why MLBers largely play the game. For big contracts, that’s a given. The other reason? Winning the WS. Whereas Sabermetrics appears at times to minimize the traditional reasons for why teams win the WS, and particularly those teams (e.g. NY) that consistently win for many years at at a time. While showing insight into the parts, the whole, or at least the big picture, tends to be underestimated if not outright avoided in Sabermetrics.

    Another example: Billy Beane and Moneyball. The A’s were loaded with talent ca.1999-2003. How many WS did they apear in during this time? Answer: None. Meanwhile, NY (which officially came somewhat late to the whole Moneyball/Sabermetrics ideology) went to the WS in ’99, ’00, 01′ and ’03. And won the WS in ’99 and ’00. Moneyball doesn’t always give the big picture. With all of OAK’s talent and still they couldn’t get it done? That’s on them, and frankly, many of their players won’t be instantly remembered years after their retirement. Also, people tend to remember individually great MLBers according to “Did they get the job done? Did they win the WS? If they were all that, then they should’ve gotten the job done.”

    Why do you think the NY Yankees remain the greatest North American sports franchise of the 20th century? Because they WON the most WS. Certainly their history is loaded with individually great players. And these great players got the job done when it mattered the most. Not in April thru September, but in October when it counts the most.

    Truly great players show up in the biggest game on the biggest stage.

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    Apologies for the idiot comment. You have your reasons, even if I believe they're seriously flawed.

    With respect to Musial and Williams and WS titles, consider that two of Musial's three were won during the watered period during WWII and that he had exactly two RBIs in ten games. Also note that Musial missed one year because of war service (age 24), while Williams effectively missed five seasons (24-26, 33-34). Williams was also a selfish teammate, but how would that narrative have changed had Pesky thrown out Slaughter at home in 1946 or if McCarthy had started Parnell over Galehouse in 1948.

    I acknowledge that judging football players for team success is more relevant, but that is largely limited to quarterbacks having such a disproportionate impact on the outcome of the game. Still, such comparison have serious limitations. Brady over Manning is pretty easy, but was Bradshaw really better than Marino or Manning? Was Eli better than Payton?

    With respect to the A's failures in the playoffs, baseball is still pretty random. It's also misleading to suggest that the Gene Michael Yankees were slow to Moneyball, at least with respect to valuing on-base percentage and power. The fact that the Yankee payroll was 3x the A's in 2001 is probably worthy of noting as well.

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  228. Were they NKVD bigwigs? That sort of thing is researchable, no? Maybe Anne Applebaum knows?

    Like I know. Probably not. But it at least seems more likely than the Fiddler on the Roof routine.

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel. You’re under the illusion that your loathing of Jews is normal. It isn’t.

    Maybe you’re projecting your misapprehension of the word “normal” here? That would explain the misstep.

    Jews don’t agree, of course. Hence the gobs of money.

    I don’t loathe Jews. I just love giving them shit. If you haven’t noticed how many Jews love giving YT shit, you may have missed why.

    I wanna be just like the Zionists…

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  229. I mean, you may genuinely hold such confidence in Jews’ reputation, but Jews clearly don’t. Hence the constant sniffing around for a whiff of aunty-semitism.

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  230. @Anonymous
    Trump's being a good shabbos goy, with the pro-Sunni anti-Iran movies, Jerusalem, Flynn taking the fall for talking to the Russians re Israel, letting Kushner managing foreign policy -- so what's the beef? Why is it the Jewish neocons are becoming so unhinged as to perplex the Gentile trucons?

    It was the footage of the Trump rallies, with the Kentucky Cossacks going wild. Especially over the Wall. Plus I think they just don’t like his style of salesmanship. Like theirs, but with more connection.

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  231. @Anon
    He won Vietnam. We had hardly any casualties in repelling the Easter Offensive launched by hundreds of thousands of North Vietnamese with (I was told) more armor than the Germans in '41. Then we abandoned our satellite and the Russkis didn't abandon theirs, and two years later (which the Northerners needed to replace their shattered army) that was that.

    He won Vietnam. We had hardly any casualties in repelling the Easter Offensive launched by hundreds of thousands of North Vietnamese with (I was told) more armor than the Germans in ’41. Then we abandoned our satellite and the Russkis didn’t abandon theirs, and two years later (which the Northerners needed to replace their shattered army) that was that.

    Yep. And it sure wasn’t Nixon who abandoned the South Vietnamese.

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  232. @Johann Ricke

    You really should demand better performance. The man’s Administration was a 5 year long cautionary tale.
     
    I believe Nixon also bequeathed to us the Hispanic category and the associated ethnic quotas and set-asides. I don't understand why anyone thinks Nixon was a good president. He lost Vietnam and came up with all kinds of cockamamie liberal schemes in the domestic sphere. Not to mention he set the current Chinese juggernaut in motion by recognizing Communist China. Watergate was no big deal and the least of his missteps.

    Affirmative action really got going when Nixon was President.

    He created section 8. He attached disability for immigrants who never put a dime into social security to the social security agency. He funded thousands of liberal legal assistance and other liberal activist organizations. Those organizations then sued the government and forced school bussing. Affirmative action and other non White judicial orders.

    He was the one who accomplished everything LBJ and the socialists only dreamed of.

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    He created section 8. He attached disability for immigrants who never put a dime into social security to the social security agency. He funded thousands of liberal legal assistance and other liberal activist organizations. Those organizations then sued the government and forced school bussing. Affirmative action and other non White judicial orders.

    Housing vouchers were a Reagan era initiative to replace federal subsidies to public housing (and, of course, required an act of Congress). Social Security Disability eligibility requires (IIRC) that anyone over 30 who applies be 'fully insured' and that anyone under 30 have contributed for at least 18 months of f/t employment or pro-rated part time employment. The enabling legislation which created the Legal Services Corporation was passed by Congress just two weeks before he left office. Among those who endorsed the law was James Jackson Kilpatrick. It wasn't until later that it was transmogrified into a honeypot for red-haze lawfare artists. Kilpatrick in his critique of the agency published ca. 1983 detailed the process.
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  233. @SFG
    Paging Max Boot. A few thousand ghosts of American soldiers would like a word with you.

    Really, it's kind of a pity. In my teenage years I read Commentary and National Review (this is probably why I lost my virginity in my late twenties) and enjoyed watching them tear down the hippy-dippy, commie left. They even dropped hints about HBD, which I followed into the notorious Bell Curve book which laid the way for me to be an HBD believer in my early twenties.

    Neoconservatism could have been a lot more. But, nah, wars for Israel. I'm not even anti-Israel, really, they're no worse (and probably a little better) than their local enemies, but I don't see why Americans should die for it. Raise money from your relatives, they've got it to give.

    Q. What’s the marching song of the Israeli army?

    A. Onward Christian Soldiers

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  234. @MBlanc46
    Let’s see, a Russian Jew and an Indian Muslim don’t “feel at home” in this country. And it’s because of Trump. Not because it isn’t their country.

    Let’s see, a Russian Jew and an Indian Muslim don’t “feel at home” in this country. And it’s because of Trump. Not because it isn’t their country.

    The weirdness of this statement comes from the Liberal prohibition on a realistic look at Race. Their only permitted viewpoint is “White Guilt” (i.e. religious style atonement ) effectively allowing minority races to dictate/destroy the White majority. Of course, Boot is 100% for this since it protects and promotes Jewish power in the US.

    A more realistic look at Race shows that most Indians feel “At Home” in India, most Russians in Russia and most Chinese in China.

    If Indians, Chinese or Jews choose (are allowed) to reside in America for economic reasons , while refusing to integrate, and retaining ethnic loyalties, why should they be made to “Feel at Home” in the US ? They’re foreign residents, and it isn’t their home.

    Max Boot has the automatic right to Israeli citizenship because he’s Jewish – it’s his primary ethnic loyalty – so why doesn’t he make the move there and stop interfering in US affairs.

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    Now this is the best comment of the post, and of the week. If they don't like it here, they should go home.
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  235. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    If you have to resort to name calling, you've lost the argument. My main point was exceptional claims demand exceptional evidence.

    I didn't answer your question of whether or not Adrian Beltre and Scott Brosius are equals because that isn't an accurate comparison. Someone of Adrian Beltre stature needs to be compared to an equivalent individual of his talents. Because at the beginning of his career, Beltre had definite promise to be a really great player.

    A more apt and accurate example: Is Derek Jeter greater than Adrian Beltre? The answer of course, is yes. Jeter is a first ballot HOFer, has 5 rings, and when he retired was fourth on the all time career base hit list. Indirectly you actually made my point. Compared to Derek Jeter, Adrian Beltre won't be long remembered 10-20 yrs after he calls it quits. Mainly because, he never got the job done.

    Similar to this: Older MLB Fan exclaims to kid "You should've seen so and so! He was so great at bat and in the field!"
    Younger fan "How'd he do in the WS?"
    Older MLB fan "Uh...he never played in one."
    Younger fan. "If he was all that, how come he failed to help his team win when it mattered the most?"

    Certainly this is understood with the NFL, where the Super Bowl is the final judgment of determining great players's ability to get it done when it matters most.

    In PIT, there's Bradshaw, Franco, Stallworth, Swann, Joe Greene, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham, Mel Blount, to name a few. All of these players are in the HOF. All were dominant and among the greatest in the league for long stretches of their career. And, as among the greatest of the greatest to ever play in the NFL, they got it done when it mattered the most. All these HOF players have 4 SB rings, a large reason as to why they are still remembered.

    I'm tempted to assign the blame to Bill James (or at least his successors) who made sabermetrics the be all and end all and yet forgot why MLBers largely play the game. For big contracts, that's a given. The other reason? Winning the WS. Whereas Sabermetrics appears at times to minimize the traditional reasons for why teams win the WS, and particularly those teams (e.g. NY) that consistently win for many years at at a time. While showing insight into the parts, the whole, or at least the big picture, tends to be underestimated if not outright avoided in Sabermetrics.

    Another example: Billy Beane and Moneyball. The A's were loaded with talent ca.1999-2003. How many WS did they apear in during this time? Answer: None. Meanwhile, NY (which officially came somewhat late to the whole Moneyball/Sabermetrics ideology) went to the WS in '99, '00, 01' and '03. And won the WS in '99 and '00. Moneyball doesn't always give the big picture. With all of OAK's talent and still they couldn't get it done? That's on them, and frankly, many of their players won't be instantly remembered years after their retirement. Also, people tend to remember individually great MLBers according to "Did they get the job done? Did they win the WS? If they were all that, then they should've gotten the job done."

    Why do you think the NY Yankees remain the greatest North American sports franchise of the 20th century? Because they WON the most WS. Certainly their history is loaded with individually great players. And these great players got the job done when it mattered the most. Not in April thru September, but in October when it counts the most.

    Truly great players show up in the biggest game on the biggest stage.

    Apologies for the idiot comment. You have your reasons, even if I believe they’re seriously flawed.

    With respect to Musial and Williams and WS titles, consider that two of Musial’s three were won during the watered period during WWII and that he had exactly two RBIs in ten games. Also note that Musial missed one year because of war service (age 24), while Williams effectively missed five seasons (24-26, 33-34). Williams was also a selfish teammate, but how would that narrative have changed had Pesky thrown out Slaughter at home in 1946 or if McCarthy had started Parnell over Galehouse in 1948.

    I acknowledge that judging football players for team success is more relevant, but that is largely limited to quarterbacks having such a disproportionate impact on the outcome of the game. Still, such comparison have serious limitations. Brady over Manning is pretty easy, but was Bradshaw really better than Marino or Manning? Was Eli better than Payton?

    With respect to the A’s failures in the playoffs, baseball is still pretty random. It’s also misleading to suggest that the Gene Michael Yankees were slow to Moneyball, at least with respect to valuing on-base percentage and power. The fact that the Yankee payroll was 3x the A’s in 2001 is probably worthy of noting as well.

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  236. @Miro23

    Let’s see, a Russian Jew and an Indian Muslim don’t “feel at home” in this country. And it’s because of Trump. Not because it isn’t their country.
     
    The weirdness of this statement comes from the Liberal prohibition on a realistic look at Race. Their only permitted viewpoint is "White Guilt" (i.e. religious style atonement ) effectively allowing minority races to dictate/destroy the White majority. Of course, Boot is 100% for this since it protects and promotes Jewish power in the US.

    A more realistic look at Race shows that most Indians feel "At Home" in India, most Russians in Russia and most Chinese in China.

    If Indians, Chinese or Jews choose (are allowed) to reside in America for economic reasons , while refusing to integrate, and retaining ethnic loyalties, why should they be made to "Feel at Home" in the US ? They're foreign residents, and it isn't their home.

    Max Boot has the automatic right to Israeli citizenship because he's Jewish - it's his primary ethnic loyalty - so why doesn't he make the move there and stop interfering in US affairs.

    Now this is the best comment of the post, and of the week. If they don’t like it here, they should go home.

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  237. @Mr. Anon

    Pretty much. Their income sources are listed in their IRS 990 form.
     
    Is there a line item on that form for "secret CIA funding?" That's what commenter "guest" was talking about.

    Is there a line item on that form for “secret CIA funding?”

    Of course not. The notion they’re funded by the CIA is a fantasy.

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    Of course not. The notion they’re funded by the CIA is a fantasy.
     
    1.) I never said there was. That's was commenter guest's supposition, which you were too stupid to pick up on.

    2.) Why is it a "fantasy"? The CIA funded publications abroad; perhaps they did here too. Do you claim to have secret knowledge of what the CIA does?
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  238. @Mr. Anon

    No one has to be bought off to be sympathetic to Israel.
     
    No, but apparently many politicians have to be bought off to put another country's interests ahead of their own. Or, what is it exactly that canny businessmen like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban are spending their money for? What is the purpose of AIPAC then?

    No, but apparently many politicians have to be bought off to put another country’s interests ahead of their own.

    There’s nothing notable in America’s dealings with Israel which harms our ‘interests’. Unz gargoyles tend to fancy America’s ‘interests’ dovetail with their gratuitous resentments, which is just silly.

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    There’s nothing notable in America’s dealings with Israel which harms our ‘interests’. Unz gargoyles tend to fancy America’s ‘interests’ dovetail with their gratuitous resentments, which is just silly.
     
    Yeah, other than the endless wars in the middle-east, the subborning of a lot of our political system, the vast amount of time and attention taken up by dealing with their problems, the fact that they are one of the handful of nations that spy on us the most.

    You are a contemptible fool. You have a website. If anybody cares to read your drivel - which, by the number of hits you get, nobody does - they can read it there. Go back to your toadstool, nitwit.
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  239. @Mr. Anon

    Seymour Martin Lipset and Irving Kristol belonged to a discussion circle at City College of New York ca. 1939 in which most of the participants were Trotskyists. There’s been an acre of embroidery over the last 30 years around this pinhead of fact.
     
    Not just "most of the participants were Trotskyists". Kristol was one too:

    "It was Trilling who, as early as my college years, and even while I was a Trotskyist,...."

    - Irving Kristol

    http://delong.typepad.com/egregious_moderation/2009/10/irving-kristol-my-cold-war-april-1-1993.html

    What happened to your legendary Google-Fu, Librarian?

    Not just “most of the participants were Trotskyists”. Kristol was one too:

    So what? Kristol abandoned Trotskyism in 1942. He never promoted anything remotely similar in a career as an editor extending over 50 years. Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter were never associated with any odd or unconventional political currents. Neither was Joseph Epstein. Nor were Jeane and Evron Kirkpatrick. Nor was Elliot Abrams. Nor was Ben Wattenberg. Sidney Hook was, but he didn’t publish in starboard outlets or participate in Republican political circles.

    N.B. National Review published a raft of people over the years who had once been Communist Party members or just outside of it, among them Whittaker Chambers, James Burnham, and Ralph de Toledano. Russell Kirk cast a ballot for Norman Thomas in 1940. For some reason this never bothered Joseph Sobran during his employment there.

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    So what? Kristol abandoned Trotskyism in 1942.
     
    Which means he abandoned it even after Trotsky did. Granted, Trotsky only did so with the aid of an ice-axe, but none-the-less. So what? You lied. You knowingly lied. That's what.

    The neo-con movement began with ex-trotskyists. This is a historical fact. Why do you persist in lying about it, you disingenuous clown? Why do you feel the need to stick up for the neo-con program, which has been pretty disastrous for this country?

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  240. @Anon
    There's no such thing as an "Unz type" outside your imagination.

    There’s no such thing as an “Unz type” outside your imagination.

    If lies help you feel better…

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    There’s no such thing as an “Unz type” outside your imagination.

    If lies help you feel better…
     
    He was treating you to a dose of your own medicine, you idiot. Relax. We all know that you have no imagination.
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  241. @Art Deco
    Is there a line item on that form for “secret CIA funding?”

    Of course not. The notion they're funded by the CIA is a fantasy.

    Of course not. The notion they’re funded by the CIA is a fantasy.

    1.) I never said there was. That’s was commenter guest’s supposition, which you were too stupid to pick up on.

    2.) Why is it a “fantasy”? The CIA funded publications abroad; perhaps they did here too. Do you claim to have secret knowledge of what the CIA does?

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  242. @Alden
    Affirmative action really got going when Nixon was President.

    He created section 8. He attached disability for immigrants who never put a dime into social security to the social security agency. He funded thousands of liberal legal assistance and other liberal activist organizations. Those organizations then sued the government and forced school bussing. Affirmative action and other non White judicial orders.

    He was the one who accomplished everything LBJ and the socialists only dreamed of.

    He created section 8. He attached disability for immigrants who never put a dime into social security to the social security agency. He funded thousands of liberal legal assistance and other liberal activist organizations. Those organizations then sued the government and forced school bussing. Affirmative action and other non White judicial orders.

    Housing vouchers were a Reagan era initiative to replace federal subsidies to public housing (and, of course, required an act of Congress). Social Security Disability eligibility requires (IIRC) that anyone over 30 who applies be ‘fully insured’ and that anyone under 30 have contributed for at least 18 months of f/t employment or pro-rated part time employment. The enabling legislation which created the Legal Services Corporation was passed by Congress just two weeks before he left office. Among those who endorsed the law was James Jackson Kilpatrick. It wasn’t until later that it was transmogrified into a honeypot for red-haze lawfare artists. Kilpatrick in his critique of the agency published ca. 1983 detailed the process.

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  243. @Art Deco
    No, but apparently many politicians have to be bought off to put another country’s interests ahead of their own.

    There's nothing notable in America's dealings with Israel which harms our 'interests'. Unz gargoyles tend to fancy America's 'interests' dovetail with their gratuitous resentments, which is just silly.

    There’s nothing notable in America’s dealings with Israel which harms our ‘interests’. Unz gargoyles tend to fancy America’s ‘interests’ dovetail with their gratuitous resentments, which is just silly.

    Yeah, other than the endless wars in the middle-east, the subborning of a lot of our political system, the vast amount of time and attention taken up by dealing with their problems, the fact that they are one of the handful of nations that spy on us the most.

    You are a contemptible fool. You have a website. If anybody cares to read your drivel – which, by the number of hits you get, nobody does – they can read it there. Go back to your toadstool, nitwit.

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    Yeah, other than the endless wars in the middle-east, the subborning of a lot of our political system, the vast amount of time and attention taken up by dealing with their problems, the fact that they are one of the handful of nations that spy on us the most.

    Waal, in the post-war period you've had the following insurgencies and interstate wars in the Near East, North Africa, and Central Asia:

    1. Polisario insurgency, an Algerian project (1975-whenever)

    2. Algerian insurgency (1954-62)

    3. Libyan mess (2011- )

    4-7. Southern Sudan insurgencies (4 episodes, intermittently 1955- )

    8-11. Yemeni insurgencies (4 episodes, 1958- )

    12. Dhofar insurgency (1975)

    13. Kurdish rebellion in Turkey (intermittent, 1984- )

    14. Nagorno-Karabakh battles (1991-4)

    15. Ethnic cleansing of Abkhzia (1992)

    16. Chechen War (1992-2000)

    17. Kurdish insurgency in Iraq (1958-75, 1991-2003)

    18. Sunni insurgency in central Iraq (multiple actors, 2003- )

    19. Shi'ite rebellion in central and southern Iraq (2004-08)

    20. Iran-Iraq War (1980-88)

    21. First Gulf War (1990-91)

    22. Second Gulf War (2003)

    23. Tajik civil war (1992-96)

    24-26. Insurgencies in Afghanistan (1978- )

    27. Kashmir violence (intermittent, 1947- )

    28. Political Violence in Pakistan (currently claims about 2,000 lives a year).


    All of these are places where there's never been one Israeli solder. About 5 have implicated American soldiers (2 for discrete periods of time, not 'endless' periods of time) and a couple of others American airmen. To add to that you have...

    29. Black September (1970)

    30. Syrian Civil War (2011- )

    Which are at least in Israel's sphere of operations but consist of internecine conflicts between Arabs.


    Someone who wasn't a dopey lout might look at this list and get the idea that violent political conflict in the region just might have something to do with the social dynamics and culture of the participants.
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  244. @Art Deco
    There’s no such thing as an “Unz type” outside your imagination.

    If lies help you feel better...

    There’s no such thing as an “Unz type” outside your imagination.

    If lies help you feel better…

    He was treating you to a dose of your own medicine, you idiot. Relax. We all know that you have no imagination.

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    He was treating you to a dose of your own medicine, you idiot.

    You need to improve your capacity for analogical reasoning.
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