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Rob Reiner should build a Statue of Liberty ruin down the beach from him.

 
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  1. Kyle says:

    You bring up an interesting question. How did the Statue of Liberty get all the way from NY harbor to Malibu?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  2. bomag says:

    Are any of these “asylum” claims along the southern border even remotely real?

  3. Ano says:

    OK, so not at the border; but what if you’re an inflatable boat full of Africans and you run up on to the sands in front of Rob’s house?

  4. Charon says:

    Category: Mother Jones headlines which we wish were true, but aren’t. And you thought that was a null set.

    • LOL: Ben tillman
  5. Ano says:

    But, this stops French-speaking Cameroonians and English-speaking Cameroonians (who have flown together across the Atlantic to escape persecution and violence from one another) from gaining asylum!
    Now these unfortunates all have to stay together in persecuting and violent Mexico, when all they want to do is live together and continue their conflict, er, I mean live in brotherly harmony in the USA.

    Perhaps the French-speakers could stay with Reiner, and the English-speakers with Streisand.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2018/07/24/african-asylum-seekers-immigration-challenges/

    • Replies: @Charon
  6. @Kyle

    Slowly at first, fission, then very quickly, with 500 Megatons of nuclear fusion.

  7. Charon says:
    @Ano

    The article sponsored by the Pulitzer Foundation.

    He lived at the South Texas Detention Complex along with people who didn’t look like him or speak his native language, French.

    How dare the USA have people who are not black and don’t speak French? Just who do we think we are?

    “We become frustrated with the single story pushed out,” said Deborah Alemu of the UndocuBlack Network

    That’s real. I didn’t make it up.

    And then, burying the lede all the way at the very end of the article.

    Black immigrants in the U.S. are more likely to be detained and deported for criminal convictions compared to the overall immigrant population. Alemu said the disproportionate representation of black immigrants among other immigrants facing deportation is an “exact mimic” of what’s happening to black people in the U.S. criminal justice system, where black people are more likely to be arrested, convicted and imprisoned..

    It’s almost as though there’s some kind of pattern. Oh! I know! Systemic racism!

    That’s what keeps them coming. They just cant resist our systemic racism.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • LOL: Herbert West
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  8. Art Deco says:
    @bomag

    Oh, a single digit minority. There might be some newspaper editor and his family who’ve a price on their heads. (And in those cases, you have to ask why they’re applying for asylum in California and not in Costa Rica). It’s only prison societies for which asylum claims are presumptively valid, and there aren’t many of those. Where you have failed states (Venezuela, Syria), ad hoc measures you take to provide material support proximate to the trouble, with a view to eventual repatriation. A generation ago, opinion-mongers like Chuck (now ‘Charles’) Lane maintained that the distinction between political refugees and economic ones was factitious and that therefore we should treat any migrant as an asylee. He actually placed an article where he claimed that open borders was ‘the only honest solution to the immigration mess’. What does an education at Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School, Harvard College, and Yale Law School get you? An inability to imagine even first-order consequences to what you advocate. He’s been on the staff of the Bezos Birdcage Liner for about 20 years now.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  9. Maybe the French speaking Cameroonians could be sent to Haiti and the English speaking Cameroonians could be sent to Jamaica. I am sure those countries would be delighted to take in their brethren from Mother Africa that speak their languages.

    Since when is it the responsibility of the United States to protect the Cameroonians from themselves?

  10. peterike says:

    Slowly, very slowly, Trump is getting things done on immigration. Sadly for all of us, the just-like-Hitler fanatical dictator the media tells us about all the time is seemingly addicted to rule of law, and he’s content to wait while processes wend their way through the proper channels. Meanwhile, had Obama been anti-immigration, he would have just said “shut the border” and that would have been that. Had some podunk judge objected, Obama would have ignored him and said “I have my pen and I signed the order.”

    Of course, even were immigration totally ended this morning, as we all know it’s way too little and way too late. Without an actual deportation plan on the order of 50 million or so, we’ll never get our country back.

    In any case, President Warren will likely swing the gates wide when she’s elected along with a bullet proof Democratic Congress. That’s when the real party will get started.

    Trump should have been President twenty years ago. We might have had a chance back then.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @bored identity
  11. Mother Jones: the Statue of Liberty Commands You to Blow It All to Hell

    Can someone explain this headline? I understand that Asylum Rules were previously being exploited to allow any foreigners to enter the US indefinitely, they were recently tightened, and left-wing sites like MJ are outraged, and they show the classic Planet of the Apes picture of the Statue of Liberty in Ruin. But what’s with the headline here? “blow it all to hell”?

    Rob Reiner should build a Statue of Liberty ruin down the beach from him.

    ok, I see that the classic scene of the Statue of Liberty in ruins in the 1968 Planet of the Apes was filmed by Malibu, where Rob Reiner lives… I don’t see the point of this sentence. Am I missing a joke?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  12. Anyone remember the name of the anti-immigration poem that some guy, back in the day, wrote in response to Emma Lazarus’s more famous poem?

  13. *Sigh*

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

    I heard anecdotal stories about severe abuses of the US asylum laws for a number of decades. Not to mention the severe abuse by George Bush I when he granted asylum to every single Chinese student in the US at the time. These folks can freely go back and forth to China, but are here because of asylum laws.

    David Brooks said something not too far from the truth once.

    He said that since the Left was demonizing anyone looking to restrict immigration in any way as a fascist, then people would turn to a fascist (Trump) to solve the immigration problem.

    Of course Brooks misses the point that Trump isn’t actually a fascist. Details.

    But Trump’s crackdown on asylum is entirely due to the severe abuse of asylum laws.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Forbes
  14. @Charon

    (Insert William Jennings Bryant quote here)

  15. Steve

    Have you heard the new rap tune by a well known Swedish Rapper?……He’s Swedish…he really is….

  16. eah says:

    OT

    Academics at the Friedrich-Schiller-Universität Jena have issued a proclamation (Erklärung) saying there is no scientific basis for human races, and that it is actually racism that resulted in the definition/invention of the concept of human races, ie not vice versa:

    Jenaer Erklärung — Das Konzept der Rasse ist das Ergebnis von Rassismus und nicht dessen Voraussetzung

    Die sg Jenaer Erklärung can be downloaded as PDF in English (link) — an excerpt:

    From the beginning, the idea of human races and their existence has been linked to an evaluation of these supposed races. Indeed, the notion that different groups of people differ in value preceded supposedly scientific work on the subject. The primarily biological justification for defining groups of humans as races – for example based on the colour of their skin or eyes, or the shape of their skulls – has led to the persecution, enslavement and slaughter of millions of people. Even today, the term ‘race’ is still frequently used in connection with human groups. However, there is no biological basis for races, and there has never been one. The concept of race is the result of racism, not its prerequisite.

    A tweet from ZDF about this:

  17. Every Indian asylum refugee story goes like

    “I was a supporter of This Party. One day, while putting up signs for This Party, a gang representing That Party showed up and beat me. They said I had to stop or they would kill me. I did not go to the police because they support That Party. I fear for my life.”

  18. dvorak says:

    The power of Colossus compels you!! (repeat 2x)

  19. Are we all – including five of nine Supremes – supposed to pretend that the dramatic increase in the volume of asylum claims sprang out of nowhere, due to simultaneously occurring conditions in several nations on several continents which are nevertheless not newsworthy and have escaped international attention?

    It’s an operation, and perhaps this opinion by SCOTUS sends a message that certain people are aware of this fact.

  20. Forbes says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Asylum claims are (supposed) to be made in the first country reached when fleeing the claimed persecution and oppression.

    E.g., Guatemalans fleeing north would claim asylum in Mexico. Syrians would claim asylum in Turkey. The concept of asylum is protection against being returned to your country of origin due to persecution, etc. It’s not a system for picking favorite holiday destinations.

  21. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @bomag

    Legitimate claims are usually made at the U.S. Embassy or Consulate in the country of origin, unless getting out of the country is urgent. Consular officials in-country can easily and quickly verify genuine cases, so that’s the fast track for real asylees. Conversely, since they are on the spot, consular officials can see through a bullshit claim easily. For instance, someone who claims to be harassed by gangs can simply move to a new neighborhood for a lot less than the coyote average fee of $4,000. If I lived in Watts, I would move to Torrance, not Canada.

  22. Paul says:

    It is almost as if Mother Jones magazine thinks the “asylum” seekers might eventually become Democratic Party voters.

  23. Paul says:

    Central Americans can claim “asylum” at Mexico’s southern border.

  24. ex-banker says:
    @bomag

    According to Sotomayor, the answer to your question is yes:

    “Once again the Executive Branch has issued a rule that seeks to upend longstanding practices regarding refugees who seek shelter from persecution,” she wrote. “Although this Nation has long kept its doors open to refugees—and although the stakes for asylum seekers could not be higher—the Government implemented its rule without first providing the public notice and inviting the public input generally required by law.”

    I get hyperbole, but the stakes could be a lot higher — these people aren’t facing real threats of starvation, concentration camps, or violence, let alone death.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/461014-sotomayor-dissents-trump-asylum-ban-comes-when-stakes-could-not-be

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. anonymous[785] • Disclaimer says:

    How to spot Anti Whiteism:

    Imagine if mass immigration of non-Africans was demanded into ALL and ONLY African populations everywhere!

    Wouldn’t it be OBVIOUS that someone was trying to rid the world of Africans? To take what is Black and make it non-Black i.e. G…

    Wouldn’t it be obvious that this ‘diversity’ and ‘anti racism’ was actually just Anti Black?

    Anti racist is CODE for Anti White!
    Diversity is code for White G-

  26. bomag says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Some 42.2 percent of Indian asylum cases were denied between fiscal years 2012 to 2017, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse. That compares with denial rates of 79 percent for El Salvadorans and 78 percent for Hondurans.

    Eighty percent denial rates. Heh.

    And that’s just those who figured they had a real chance.

  27. The Statue of (taking) Liberties

  28. The Supreme Court? That’s nice, but I assume a federal district court judge can be found, before long, who will rule the Supreme Court’s decision to be unconstitutional. And then the invasion can resume.

    • Replies: @James J. O'Meara
    , @Wilkey
  29. One of Japan’s northern prefectures, Aomori, put up billboards encouraging people to turn in illegal aliens– and they featured a kawaii Statue of Liberty.

    The world’s largest replica of the statue is in a small city there, near a U.S. base, and close to the same latitude as the original, so the idea didn’t come out of the blue. She’s a local icon.

    http://www.town.oirase.aomori.jp

    You can see the poster in this book:

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Hello_Please.html?id=RlGy0vBIP6gC

  30. The Boston Marathon bombing was caused by the US government’s ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION & REFUGEE OVERLOAD schemes.

    The REFUGEE OVERLOAD racket is a multicultural scam.

    The ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION fraud is a multicultural scam.

    Tweet from 2014:

  31. @International Jew

    Even now an Obama Judge in East Podunk is drafting his “this sound really neat and cool” opinion to that effect. Law school is largely training in “really cool ideas to get to socialism”.

  32. eah says:

    A study out of Sweden: 50% of criminal suspects aged 15 – 44 are immigrants or have an immigrant background — 1st and 2nd generation migrants are on average 2x as likely to be criminal as Swedes (some groups have much higher multiples).

  33. OMG, we have become the Apes!

  34. Wilkey says:
    @International Jew

    The Supreme Court? That’s nice, but I assume a federal district court judge can be found, before long, who will rule the Supreme Court’s decision to be unconstitutional. And then the invasion can resume.

    Judge Jon Tigar, an Obama appointee, might just be the one to do it. The 9th Circus, a higher court, narrowed his ruling to just states under their jurisdiction, but he reversed their decision and reapplied it to the entire country. I am not making this up.

  35. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @ex-banker

    This is sort of like the new insanity defense of public policy debates.

    Gotcha, we wasted thousands in litigation and years to arrive at the, you forgot to put a wee note in the newspaper, which no reads, asking for position papers, which no one produces. ( except for payment )

    Verdict ? Sorry, the elected leader of your government by the people cant stop Muslim terrorists, or destitute and diseased criminals from entering The United States. Gonna be tough on common people, but ya know. Real nations of related peoples dont act like this.

  36. @eah

    From the beginning, the idea of human races and their existence has been linked to an evaluation of these supposed races. Indeed, the notion that different groups of people differ in value preceded supposedly scientific work on the subject. The primarily biological justification for defining groups of humans as races – for example based on the colour of their skin or eyes, or the shape of their skulls – has led to the persecution, enslavement and slaughter of millions of people. Even today, the term ‘race’ is still frequently used in connection with human groups. However, there is no biological basis for races, and there has never been one. The concept of race is the result of racism, not its prerequisite.

    What a relief. Since Turks and Africans are likely to spring from the wombs of blonde haired German women, there is no need to import them.

  37. Jon Tigar, the Obama judge in SanFran, way overplayed his hand. He decreed a nationwide injunction over the new rule, even though the new method was totally in line with the statute, by declaring it was an APA violation.

    The ninth circuit said he could only have a local injunction, so he pretended he had new evidence and reissued the injunction nationwide again.

    The one thing the supremes won’t put up with is a trial (district) judge saying “Fuck your rulings, I do what I want”. So they smacked him down all the way.

    Side note: Big case in the court of appeals of veterans claims this week. They issued a ruling on veterans medical bills in 2016, and the VA literally adopted the same reg again and pissed the court off so bad they certified a class action of all effected vets for the first time ever…and they are an article one court. https://efiling.uscourts.cavc.gov/cmecf/servlet/TransportRoom?servlet=CaseSummary.jsp&caseNum=18-6091&incOrigDkt=Y&incDktEntries=Y

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    , @William Badwhite
  38. @Massimo Heitor

    Malibu, where Rob Reiner lives… I don’t see the point of this sentence. Am I missing a joke?

    Like most Malibubus (what’s the right demonym?), Reiner wants legal walls around where he lives, but not where we live.

    Chappaqua and all of Vermont are the same.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
  39. Franz says:
    @the one they call Desanex

    Emma the Zionist and her plaque can join Israel Zangwill in his “melting pot” and just melt away.

    Reminds me: Lots of people know of Zangwell’s play and how it cursed us with that “melting pot” nonsense, but have you ever tried actually reading it?

    At least flip through it. The most extraordinary malicious mediocrity in print. I won’t even bother noting that if it hadn’t suited the Jewish narrative you’d never have heard of it.

    “The Melting Pot”

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/23893/23893-h/23893-h.htm

  40. @peterike

    Trump should have been President twenty years ago. We might have had a chance back then.

    Yeah, but The Orangatuman was too busy bashing Uncle Pat for being Literally Austrian Painter at that time.

    ‘Cause if you wanna be part of The New York Real Estatism , you don’t ….well, y’all know what.

  41. V. Hickle says:

    This is monumentally significant and by far the most important thing Trump has done vis a vis immigration. I hope it is upheld.

  42. Wilkey says:
    @Lawyer Guy

    Jon Tigar, the Obama judge in SanFran, way overplayed his hand. He decreed a nationwide injunction over the new rule, even though the new method was totally in line with the statute, by declaring it was an APA violation. The ninth circuit said he could only have a local injunction, so he pretended he had new evidence and reissued the injunction nationwide again. The one thing the supremes won’t put up with is a trial (district) judge saying “Fuck your rulings, I do what I want”. So they smacked him down all the way.

    It’s both better than it sounds but also far worse.

    The 9th Circus actually gave His Highness Judge Tigar some small amount of room to “further develop the record” to make his case for a nationwide injunction. Tigar took that opportunity to “develop the record” (or pretend to) and reapplied the injunction nationwide.

    Then the 9th Circus bitchslapped him again.

    When Tigar overrode the higher court he said that ‘if the circuit were to disagree with this order and his interpretation of their ruling, he would issue an indicative ruling saying he would grant the immigration groups’ motion to reinstate the national injunction.’

    So the asshole was prepared to try to override a higher court twice and was incredibly brazen about it. So it’s not at all unreasonable to assume that he’s going to going to keep finding new and different reasons to dictate national policy from his little unelected judgeship in San Francisco that higher courts (including SCOTUS0 are going to have to keep overriding, and I can only wish him well. His megalomania only serves to make the case for why we shouldn’t want more Democrats in office. No matter how moderate they may appear to be on some policy matters, this is the kind of judges they want to give us.

  43. @Reg Cæsar

    Like most Malibubus (what’s the right demonym?), Reiner wants legal walls around where he lives, but not where we live.

    I know… I’ve long read Steve Sailer’s coverage of Malibu, and the hypocrisies of the liberals there. Sailer is awesome in that often notices aspects that mainstream writers would never notice. And secondly Sailer is often very funny. Sailer would be terrible at live entertainment, he has a wooden motionless persona, but notices things in a witty and humorous way.

    This particular post, I didn’t get the humor. But here are a few excellent Sailer Malibu posts:

    funny:
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/malibu-americas-least-welcoming-town-declares-itself-a-sanctuary/
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/sanctuary-city-sign-pranks-malibu/
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/malibu-dealing-with-influx-of-homeless-as-expected/

    interesting:
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/after-14-years-a-decision-in-malibu/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  44. Moses says:

    Why give asylum at all, to anyone?

    Problems in other countries are not our problem.

  45. Anonymous[154] • Disclaimer says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    “The New Colossus” is a nonsensical, ethnomarcissist poem by a woman at the turn of the century about how much better her people are than Americans. (some) Ellis Island descendants make reference to the poem (affixed to the base of Liberty Enlightening the World) to demonstrate their own superiority to core Americans and to browbeat core Americans into accepting more D voters.

    In the close of the film Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston sees the statue lying in ruin on the beach, and realizes he isn’t on a Planet of apes at all, but is back on his home planet. He exclaims “Damn you, you blew it up! Damn you all to hell!”

    The author of this piece apparently thinks Planet of the Apes symbolism, long referenced by the likes of Mark Krikorian, Steve, etc, somehow better suits as an analogy in his argument than in the anti-immigration one to which it seems so obviously suited.

  46. @Lawyer Guy

    Question for the lawyers here: Short of removal by the Senate, is there any disciplinary action that can be taken against this despot?

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