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For a long time I’ve been pointing out that a number of liberal cities and suburbs that vote Democratic in Presidential elections adopt policies that have negative disparate impact on blacks and Hispanics, making housing expensive and diminishing the number of lower end jobs. Noah Millman has now christened this the Sailer Strategy in contrast to the Florida Strategy of the (confusingly named) Richard Florida.

But of course, my contribution has been less advocacy of these liberal measures but exposure of what they are up to. My moral stance is that everybody all across the country is entitled to be aware of what’s going on in liberal cities.

For example, Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel wants to drive out a sizable fraction of poor black Chicagoans and have them resettle in small towns in the Midwest. Any small town / small city opposition to his ethnic cleansing strategy can be denounced as racist, and Rahm’s former colleagues in the Justice Department can be sicced upon the recalcitrant. It’s a giant game of Hot Potato that is being played, and my view is that everybody is entitled to know what’s going on.

The Sailer and Florida Strategies At Work In New Orleans
By NOAH MILLMAN • July 29, 2014, 4:01 PM

I’ve spent much of the past two months in New Orleans on a film … But from what literally everybody down there is saying, the city is in the midst of a radical transformation.

The question, which is what I’m referencing in my title, is precisely why.

In broad brush-strokes, since Katrina a ton of money has poured into New Orleans for reconstruction, some public dollars and some through insurance payouts. Meanwhile, since 2002, the state of Louisiana has had a generous tax credit designed to woo the film industry to town – and credit that, in the years since the hurricane, has paid off to a huge degree in New Orleans and around the state.

That film tax credit is a good example of the Richard Florida strategy for revitalizing a city, a strategy centered on attracting creative types who make a city attractive both to tourists and to residents with disposable income. New Orleans already has a lot of the Florida elements – great food, great music scene, beautiful architecture. Films depend on a lot of the kinds of creative services that Florida thinks are so central. Film is also a heavily-unionized industry, so a lot of the jobs pay quite well. And once you’ve built a critical mass of people with the relevant skills, you get into a virtuous circle where more productions coming to town mean more jobs, which means more film professionals move to town, which means even more productions see the viability of shooting there, etc.

A few weeks after Hurricane Katrina, I posted “What Hollywood Could Do for New Orleans.”

In general, however, the stratagem of states offering big tax breaks to Hollywood has a long and discouraging history. North Carolina currently competes with Louisiana on the tax break front, but does anybody believe North Carolina will develop a long term film industry? Will it stop raining so much in North Carolina? Back in the 1980s, Chicago became a fashionable site for location shoots (e.g., The Untouchables) and by the end of the decade I was noticing movie ads in the Chicago Tribune mentioning that Academy members could get in free. But then Hollywood moved on to the next Fresh Meat …

Currently, the most overexposed city in movies is New York; supervillains in the 2010s routinely smash up Times Square. Why? In part because, as crime has fallen so much under Giuliani and Bloomberg, an ever growing fraction of celebrities live in New York. That’s a pretty permanent advantage.

Richard Florida makes a lot of money giving speeches to podunk chambers of commerce that they too could be the next Brooklyn if only Spokane, or wherever, developed a Gay and Artist and Immigrant district.

But New Orleans, with its famous traditions in architecture, cuisine, and music, actually has potential in that regard now that it is shaking off the decades of self-destructive black rule.

New Orleans has potential that Charlotte or even Chicago lack. For people who are Brad Pitt-rich, New Orleans might be a nice place to live in fall and spring. To artistically-inclined people from Flyover Country who seem to feel some loyalty to their Flyover roots, like Pitt, New Orleans competes with Austin (and maybe Santa Fe and some ski resort towns). And it’s different enough from Austin that there doesn’t have to be just one winner, the way Silicon Valley crushed Route 128.

But the Florida strategy is only half of the story of New Orleans over the past nine years. The other half of the story is demographic change – prompted by the hurricane.

Katrina flooded big chunks of the city, including ritzy areas in uptown, not just the infamous ninth ward. But the areas that were heavily poor and black were the most fundamentally transformed, because residents who were displaced frequently didn’t have the resources to come back, couldn’t rebuild their houses, etc.

Wealthy people lived above sea level, poor people below. Do you trust the Army Corps of Engineers enough to live below sea level?

The city as a whole is pretty much back up to its pre-Katrina population levels,

Well, still down 19% from 2005.

but some neighborhoods are still substantially depopulated. And the city’s primary goal is not to facilitate the return of the previous residents, but to rebuild in a way that is most economically beneficial to the city.

It’s irresponsible to let poor people live below sea level.

This is what you might call the Steve Sailer strategy for urban revitalization: get rid of the least-desireable [sic]portion of the population (from the perspective of the tax rolls), and replace them with new people.

The Sailer Strategy instead is for Americans to be honest with each other about how they are playing Hot Potato with each other, and to unite to import fewer Hot Potatoes for future generations to have to deal with.

 

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  1. Hollywood HATES filming in New Orleans and Louisiana. The weather is mostly terrible, the crime is still terrifying, the interesting part of the city is tiny and people get bored with it after a week or two, and the cuisine is so famously rich and fatty that it makes sticking to actor diets really difficult. The only reason so many productions shoot there is that Louisiana outbid every other state in the race to the bottom when it comes to giving out subsidies, to the extent that they’ll refund a portion of above the line salaries. That means the Louisiana taxpayers are actually paying millions of dollars to the likes of Bruce Willis and The Rock. If the above-the-line refund ever goes away, expect production to dry up and flee back to New Mexico, North Carolina, Michigan, or…gasp! even Los Angeles.

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    Hot tomale

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  3. white boy
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    New Orleans is still a bastion of liberalism. Chocolate don’t go away for good without a fight .Water will eventually find its level, so I’d stay away if I weren’t a person of color. Get it?

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  4. “For example, Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel wants to drive out a sizable fraction of poor black Chicagoans and have them resettle in small towns in the Midwest. Any small town opposition to his ethnic cleansing strategy can be denounced as racist, and Rahm’s former colleagues in the Justice Department can be sicced upon the recalcitrant. It’s a giant game of Hot Potato that is being played, and my view is that everybody is entitled to know what’s going on.”

    OK, now THIS is what I meant in the previous blog about Section 8 Housing Vouchers.

    THIS is where the battlelines will have to be drawn. These small towns will have to object and raise some organized opposition to being flooded by undesirables and/or the wrong sort of neighbors.

    Where are these Windy Cityites coming from? Cabrini Green and other such places? Aha! Also, just turn it around on the big city folk. “You have plenty of room to house your own, they’ve been there for generations, why are YOU, MR MAYOR, trying to drive them out? What are YOU….some kinda racist?” Just throw it back on them.

    But ultimately this has to be directly dealt with by using the trump card, namely, the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. It worked vs forced busing in the 70s by working class neighborhoods. That’s what it may just take in small town Midwestern towns and ‘burbs. They’ll have to organize opposition and hire a team of legal experts to sue city governments like Immanuel etc who are intent on ridding their undesirables. Big developing interests at the price of tearing apart small town Americana. Paging Frank Capra? Paging his heirs. David vs Goliath.

    Another way to pit the battle and that is: Urban interests vs the small town homespun values of the working classes. That timeless eternal battle (city vs country) has been going on for nearly 2 full centuries. The Founding Fathers generally sided with the agrarian interests (small town values, etc) as opposed to urban (read: corrupting influences, vice, etc).

    But thats where the battle has to begin. Sue one of the governments and use the first Amendment. The arguemtn being that arbitrarily flooding people from cities into your town is unconstitutional, much as forced busing was in the 70s.

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    But the areas that were heavily poor and black were the most fundamentally transformed, because residents who were displaced frequently didn’t have the resources to come back, couldn’t rebuild their houses, etc.

    That’s not it, they just like it better in Houston or Atlanta.

    Also it appears the holdouts in New Orleans are preying on the artists.

    Victim of St. Roch Attack: ‘They Just Wanted to Stomp Somebody’

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  6. You know, of course, if CA really wants to play hardball and protect the one industry that has brought it more revenue (arguably, but definitely since post-Defense spending) than nearly everything and that is to simply lowball every state out there in refunds.

    Here’s the thing: In the studio age Hollywood seldom ever went on location and when they did it was mostly within the state at large.

    CA is a great state in that it can stand in for just about anywhere, any kind of “look” that you want. Regional places like New Orleans can’t really stand in for anything but creole/Mardi Gras/Swamp type stuff. But how often do you really “need” to make that type of film? Once every 15yrs? Really. You can get a swamp look by going to FL’s everglades. Same thing to most folks and really….who cares?

    Any state you name with a film industry, with the exception of NY, Hollywood has been decades ahead of them. Why go anywhere else?

    Also, if Hollywood and the SAG/AFTRA unions ever truly worked out a truce and came together to help drive down production costs then there’s really no need to film anyplace else.

    Film production for the most part should stay in CA. It’s high time that CA worked out the grievances that have driven some of the production incs to other states.

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  7. “New Orleans has potential that Charlotte or even Chicago lack. For people who are Brad Pitt-rich, New Orleans might be a nice place to live in fall and spring.”

    Uh, what about Malibu? Or Westwood? New Orleans city proper is still a leading crime center. Something about the words “crime capital” that can kind of make others flee.

    I wish I could see the fascination some of these mega wealthy have with “Lets live in a bohemian place and get away from the hustle bustle of NY/LA and go live in…..podunkville US.” Yeah, that sounds cool for a while. But when you get right down to it. It’s just a fad that some go thru. Much like how Johnny Depp lived on an island somewhere for awhile and then in France, etc. But come on.

    Even though they work in the land of make believe, sooner or later they have to grow up and act responsible.

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    It’s one thing to lure in some Hollywood movies, but don’t you need a core of skilled tradesmen living in a city to have a sustainable industry? Does New Orleans really have that? What city has that outside of Los Angeles? Vancouver, I guess. New York, to a small extent. It’s got the Silver Cup studios (site of the climactic sword fight in the first Highlander movie), and maybe with the Tonight Show back in New York there will be more TV produced there. Hollywood is still pretty much the Silicon Valley of filmmaking this side of Bombay.

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    Hipster-Jewish-homosexual-Liberal strategy of urban gentrification is called the ‘Sailer Strategy’?Blame it on Sailer.

    Millman is a pseudo-con.

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    Noah Millman is an ass.

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    http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/28/david-duchovny-has-to-explain-hes-not-pr

    ‘Cold War paranoia’ of the 1950s very bad.

    Cold Beer War paranoia very good.

    Go after all Putinists. Blacklist! And guilty by association. If someone’s in a Russian beer commercial, he MUST be a Putinist.

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  12. According to Vince Gilligan the original setting of Breaking Bad was Riverside before Sony persuaded/instructed him to use the New Mexico tax edifice. I’ve read of Bill Richardson’s extraordinary faith in film production bribes, sad to say local opinion always lagged this visionary outlier. Most of these new movies mysteriously set in Las Cruces or Albuquerque for no reason tended to be crappy ones anyway

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    Maybe Hollywood hates filming in Nawlins but today I just read that Keanu Reeves, Renee Zellweger & Jim Belushi are in town filming something.

    ” Why? In part because, as crime has fallen so much under Giuliani and Bloomberg, an ever growing fraction of celebrities live in New York. That’s a pretty permanent advantage.”

    Well…it might also be that NYC still has America’s biggest talent pool of true actors because of the weird persistence of live theater, despite all the predictions of its death: Bway, Off Bway & Off Off. There is no comparison between the craft and skill of a stage trained actor and that of the pretty boys and girls who go to Hollywood and succeed or fail due to looks and looks alone.

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  14. The likes of Millman eat the fruit, throw the rind on the ground, and blame others for the trash.

    Noah is like Noam(Chomsky) who blames US for Israeli policy against Palestinians.

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  15. Austin & New Orleans might be the worst simile ever. Without the post-Sputnik arms race the former would be another bucolic, unremarkable dateline for statehouse reporters. Whereas N’Aw’linz is basking in so much cultural capital, like Baghdad or Sarajevo

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    “Gay and Artist and Immigrant district.” I wonder why that is. Gays have few children. So all their income can be spent on consumption, of art for example. They can pay extra taxes, but do not need the most expensive thing a city provides public school. I wonder if gays need immigrants for cheap labor. So there might be a coherent plan here.

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    Millman writes:

    This is what you might call the Steve Sailer strategy for urban revitalization: get rid of the least-desireable portion of the population (from the perspective of the tax rolls), and replace them with new people.

    Isn’t the Sailer strategy about affordable suburbanism? The “urban revitalization” Millman describes is antithetical to affordable suburbanism. The whole point of affordable suburbanism is that middle class suburbs are affordable enough that young people can form families in the suburbs. If there were affordable suburbanism, fewer young people would be moving into cities in the first place, and they’d be moving out of them earlier to start families in the suburbs. That would mean fewer “new people” for “urban revitalization”. Currently,t he “urban revitalization” involves sucking in poor, highly indebted young people into cities where they’ll never be able to own property and start families. A lot of these “new people” have to move out of the cities in their 30s to try to form families after having used up their youth and having very little wealth from paying high urban rents.

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    I thought the Sailer strategy was for the Republicans to forget minorities and try to increase their share of the white vote.

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    Minor quibble – due to the paucity of real artists in our world, no city is “overexposed” in terms of good movies. The best painted cities ever might have been Paris in our great-grandparents day and Venice in their grand parents day and Florence a few centuries before that, and each of those cities was so little over-exposed that the few hundred (at best) really good paintings with real connections to each of these cities sell for millions. The ratio of good movies to objectively beautiful cities (viz. Chesterton’s comparison of the New York skyline to a new kind of Jerusalem) is even lower (for example, I have traipsed around a certain MidAtlantic city for a couple decades and have not seen a single really well filmed version of that city).

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    Louisiana isn’t competing with North Carolina as much these days as it is with Georgia. Wilmington North Carolina has the EUE/Screen Gems studio that’s the largest filming center outside of California, but my understanding is that it’s seen better days and the industry has been in decline. I don’t know the details of the LA vs Ga tax credits that well, but basically Ga will pay about 27 or 28% of the cost of filming anything in the state. That’s brought a huge amount of penny pinching film and tv productions into the state and particularly the Atlanta area. What’s funny is that when Anchorman 2 was filming it was cheaper to make Atlanta look like Manhattan and build an ersatz Rockefeller Center instead of just filming in New York.

    As another point, what Millman calls the Sailer Strategy is really the unspoken part of the Florida strategy of economic development and it’s really popular in academic public policy and urban redevelopment right now. A city gets rid of its projects, puts some incentives in to help development, and then gets 20 something college grads to move there. It makes tons of sense because the cities only plan on keeping these hipster/yuppie/SWPLs for 10 years or so before they have kids and move out for good schools and a lawn. In the interim, those folks pay plenty in taxes and receive little in the way of government services.

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    I don’t think NM, LA, MI, or any of the other states offering generous incentives will be able to lure the big money from Hollywood permanently. Keep in mind, a big moneymaker in the industry right now is reality TV, and the highest-rated of those shows depend to a large degree upon glitzy ambiance. Real Housewives of Shreveport or Cleveland just doesn’t have the right ring to it. Scottsdale maybe, but the infrastructure just isn’t there to support a lot of it.

    However, these film incentive programs do seem to be drawing a lot of low- and no-budget production. Remember, “low budget” means anything under around $6 or $7 million, and “no-budget” can go as high as $500K. That’s nothing to sneeze at if you’re a small Midwestern city looking to be the next Austin. I worked on quite a lot of indie films in Ohio, and had friends working on them in Iowa, North Carolina, and Louisiana, all because of incentive programs.

    When I was working on low-budget stuff in Hollywood, I was constantly hearing people complain about the jobs that were being sucked out by Midwestern incentive programs. Not the big-name union stuff, but the indie stuff.

    The dog trainer from “I Am Legend” told me he was thinking about moving out to Louisiana because that’s where all the work was. (As Steve has surmised in the past, animal wrangling for movies, even big budget ones, is a low-rent game.)

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    Georgia got the Walking Dead series.

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    My fiance’s father is looking to cash in the Hollywood NOLA boom. He owns a building on Esplanade near Rampart St. that capitalizes on being in both a quiet, residential part of the Quarter and near the happening hipster haven of the Marigny District. He is listing it to potential buyers connected with the entertainment industry in California and New York, entirely bypassing the local real estate market.

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    This is what you might call the Steve Sailer strategy for urban revitalization: get rid of the least-desireable [sic]portion of the population (from the perspective of the tax rolls), and replace them with new people.

    Pretty damn cheeky of Millman, and incredibly gracious of you to keep it clean.

    The irony, of course, is that Progressives are doing exactly this with their open borders immigration policy. I think Freud would say that Millman has rather bald and embarrassing projection.

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  26. Steve,

    You don’t get enough credit: You really are a moderate.

    But I’m trying to picture what being honest with each other about playing Hot Potato with blacks would actually look like (what could possibly go wrong?) and I really can’t see any meaningful way of doing it that wouldn’t be likely to cause a race riot.

    Or do you just mean you want liberals to admit they act like White Nationalists? That would be nice, but to what end? Seems rather partisan for you.

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  27. I’m grateful to TAC for hiring Noah Millman. It gave me permission to leave in good conscience. The insult of Millman left no doubt that TAC was no longer to be taken seriously.

    They have done nothing since to change my assessment. They hire their interns to write their “deep think” pieces while relying on Rod Dreher for lefty click-bate.

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  28. I’ll believe in New Orleans as a potential film industry mecca when they finally get around to making a film version of A Confederacy of Dunces.

    Actually, if one ever does get made, they’ll probably find a way to film it in New York City.

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    The “grievance” Cali has with the film business is that it’s a business. The state’s taxes, regulation and overall anti-business climate drives a lot of businesses, and jobs out of state. There is a paltry tax incentive to bring production back in-state but the NIMBY attitude overcomes that.

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    I believe there are a couple of sizable sound stage facilities in Brooklyn. There is plenty of infrastructure for making romantic comedies and even for superhero blockbusters like The Avengers.

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    Orlando has some infrastructure for children’s television due to Disney. The odds are that TV will continue to become more fragmented, so a relatively cheap cost of living place like Orlando might do fairly well.

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    Right, that HBO series set in 1920s Atlantic City is filmed in Brooklyn somewhere. One thing about Brooklyn is there’s a lot of it.

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    There is no comparison between the craft and skill of a stage trained actor and that of the pretty boys and girls who go to Hollywood and succeed or fail due to looks and looks alone.

    Film has the (to me) all-important ability to get close-ups of actors’ facial expressions and audible recordings of soft speaking, thus providing actors with vastly more nuanced and subtle reactions than are possible in theatre acting, which relies by necessity on ham-boned body movements and voice projecting. I’d rather see an excellent performance on film than on stage, because I feel a more intimate interaction. The true greats, like Anna Magnani, would be awe-inspiring standouts in any venue, but I still enjoy watching movie close-ups of her face.

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    @Thomas O. Meehan

    I second your comments about TAC.

    As I remember most of the writers there declared that they would vote for Obama in the 2012 election. I can understand a conservative staying at home on election day, but voting Obama? No.

    How did the Left get hold of TAC? Maybe our host can tell us that story.

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    Whore Hannity

    http://www.ancreport.com/podcast/sean-hannity-to-the-woodshed-over-palestine/

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    We should have taken Malcolm X’s offer:

    Malcolm X advocated the complete separation of African Americans from whites. He proposed that African Americans should return to Africa, and that a separate country for black people in America should be created as an interim measure.

    If we're fans of Malcolm X, does that mean we're not racist?

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    There’s Hollywood and there’s the other dark Hollywood which these days is probably more lucrative than the first Hollywood I am of course referring to the San Pornando Valley dirty movie industry. There’s always been a lot of talk about the so called industry’s posturing to get out of town sparked off usually by rumors of increased tax – a highly lucrative source of income for schools etc – and increased regulation the compulsory use of prophylactics being the contentious isssue threatening to blast the industry and its revenue stream into ‘condom come’ as one wag memorably put it. Florida, ironically enough is always named as the state lined up to be the lucky recipient. Certainly Bang Bros who domiante the modern tablet on demand industry and many a teen age nerd’s wet dream have decamped there. Others are likely to follow in a trend likely to engender mixed emotions in many Californians.

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    “the interesting part of the city is tiny”: indeed it is. I visited once mainly because I love vintage N.O. jazz. I thoroughly enjoyed what I heard, however much people might like to write it off as third-rate tourist bait. I also enjoyed strolling around the tiny bit: the two together were well worth a weekend.

    But you can find bigger patches of architectural interest in scores, perhaps hundreds, of European towns; damn near in European villages. But said towns and villages aren’t a quick flight from Houston.

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    “Hollywood HATES filming in New Orleans and Louisiana. The weather is mostly terrible, the crime is still terrifying,”

    You take away the French quarter and New Orleans is basically a clone of Detroit when it comes to being a poor lower working class ghetto Black city.

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    Any possibility he doesn’t read you too closely and simply goofed?

    Read the article closely, and it doesn’t say you actually advocate the strategy, though it does imply that by calling it ‘The Sailer Strategy’. He should say the strategy ‘described by Sailer’ at least to clarify you’re not actually advocating it. It’s like calling putting trash in your meat ‘The Sinclair Strategy’ (from ‘The Jungle’)–the writer is exposing the phenomenon in question and thus opposes it.

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    I wonder where Trannies fit in Florida’s Gay/Boho index.

    Florida could make money by performing a Gay- Chamber of Commerce matchmaking service. City revitalization committee seeks homosexual. Will provide U-haul.

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    “the interesting part of the city is tiny”

    No it’s not. If you walk across Canal Street from the French Quarter, get bored by the CDB, and assume the rest of the city is like that, I can see why you would think so. That’s what Derbyshire did for instance, and then wrote an article about it.

    Most of the area between the lake and the river, from the Jefferson Parish line to the industrial canal, is fairly interesting and scenic in comparison to the average American sprawl. Old Algiers across the river is also quite nice. Neighborhoods like the Garden District, Uptown, Mid-City are actually exceptionally scenic, and Marigny (although not my cup of tea) is pure hipster bait. Even parts of the CBD are interesting. There are obviously some ugly and blighted areas, but gentrification can quickly change that because of the base of good architecture. The large Audubon Park and City Park both rank among the prettiest city parks in the country. The neighborhoods within this area that are intrinsically unexceptional and bland, are few.

    The massive gentrification taking place is not just accidental or a result of film credits. It’s because of three things mainly:

    1. Money from reconstruction jump starting the local economy during the recession
    2. Demographic change after the storm and all the associated effects
    3. People who stay a while figure out there is more than the French Quarter and they like what they see and the price they can get it at

    The last of these is at least as important as the first two. I don’t understand the strange motivation of some people to trash a city they don’t know much about. I think it is probably because they resent all the gooey-eyed sentimentality with which liberals regard the city, which is understandable but still doesn’t make their critiques valid.

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    Mississippi, Alabama and other southern states dumped a large number of their lower class blacks onto Chicago and other cities to begin with. Instead of trying to goad them into moving out to the smaller surrounding areas a back to the homeland movement should be the goal to see if they can be coaxed to move back to their states of origin. They would probably feel much more comfortable there, the culture and weather being much more congenial to them. Moving north never fulfilled it’s promises, the weather was cold and the Yankee liberals only liked them from a distance. Instead of scattering them about they would be much happier with their own homeland concentrated in a couple of states located in the south.

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    […] Steve Sailer blows the whistle. […]

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  45. Numinous
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    The Sailer Strategy instead is for Americans to be honest with each other about how they are playing Hot Potato with each other.

    And what exactly is your position on this? You don’t openly say, here or in other posts, whether you approve or disapprove. Given the tenor of your blog posts on other topics (on race and HBD in particular) I, like Millman, suspect the former.

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    Mississippi, Alabama and other southern states dumped a large number of their lower class blacks onto Chicago and other cities to begin with. Instead of trying to goad them into moving out to the smaller surrounding areas a back to the homeland movement should be the goal to see if they can be coaxed to move back to their states of origin.

    Nonsense. The goal should be to make them all move to Yankee states. It was the Yankees who insisted on freeing them, the Yankees who refused to send them home, and it’s the Yankees who still brag about all of this as if it’s a source of pride. So blacks are a Yankee responsibility.

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    But I’m trying to picture what being honest with each other about playing Hot Potato with blacks would actually look like (what could possibly go wrong?) and I really can’t see any meaningful way of doing it that wouldn’t be likely to cause a race riot.

    Maybe you can explain what you mean, or give us some hypothetical examples? Because at the moment this seems like a flimsy excuse to keep stealing from whites to give to blacks, keep enforcing racist speech codes on whites, etc. How much of blacks’ famous tendency to riot has been carefully cultivated by white liberals over the years? My guess is about 95%, but I’m open to argument.

    Your advice sounds like the kind of excuses malignant/neglectful parents give their shrinks.

    There’s Hollywood and there’s the other dark Hollywood which these days is probably more lucrative than the first Hollywood I am of course referring to the San Pornando Valley dirty movie industry.

    I doubt that. They produce tons of product but the margins are very thin. Seems mostly like a way for johns to make a living off their hobby and write off expenses. Seems like if there was really a lot of money there we’d see some convergence with indie filmmaking.

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    Mayor Rahm Emanuel has offered to take 1000 illegal immigrants :“You have a thousand kids fleeing violence in Central America. This speaks to who we are as a city in welcoming them,” he said.

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    The “hot potato” strategy in Chicago has some really interesting questions I think.

    1) Given the hoovering of brains from flyover to cities, is there enough left in those smaller towns to continue to function in any meaningful way if they at the same time get the worst problems of the cities?

    2) The old school answer to such problems in the schools was two-fold: expulsion and “alternative” school. What that really meant was we are throwing the hot potato out into the world. Not our problem anymore. Such kids tended to drift to the cities then because of simple boredom. Will fortress blue cities start building walls again?

    3) Will the fortress blue cities recognize that they can’t exist without much lower expectations/higher freedom country cousins, or will they keep trying to police the rubes?

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    Steve, back in the Michael Eisner days, Disney really tried to make a go of movie, television and animation production at what is now Disney’s Hollywood Studios. Built all the facilities, moved all the talent, developed an entire tourist attraction around it all … but it just wasn’t financially viable over the long term.

    Disney doesn’t create anything in Orlando any more. Even Radio Disney, the corporation’s chain of youth-oriented radio stations, is run out of Dallas these days.

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  51. @34

    Currently it is illegal to film adult videos in every state but two: CA and New Hampshire. That there is some filming going on in FL does not change the facts. It is illegal and they could easily be shut down and prosecuted. After all, those types of “films” are nothing more than vice and prostitution.

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    “MLK” offered a tart criticism for Noah Millman on August 1, 2014 at 12:23 am. It reads,

    “This is what you might call the Steve Sailer strategy . . .”

    What’s with the craven “you”? As someone who has read everything Sailer has written on this strategy of elite urban liberals, I can assure that there is no chance I might label it “The Sailer Strategy.” Not unless I wanted to mislead, and take a swipe at someone for exposing that which hits rather close to home and heart.

    If you’re an honorable person, you will either substantiate your implication, or correct it. As for the latter, just correct it to “a strategy first identified by Steve Sailer . . . . . ” — so that you don’t have to take time away from enjoying Brooklyn with your friends.

    Well put.

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  54. Yo Steve I’m from the NOLA area and the economy HAS NOT PICKED BACK UP. I still sh*t myself if I’m in NOLA after say 8 or 9pm and if I’m not stayin in a hotel there. YOU DO NOT WANT to be on the street in NOLA if you wander even a few blocks from Canal or Bourbon or any of the touristy areas. My cousin is white trash who lives in Metarie and even she doesn’t go into the city after 8pm. I’ve visited Los Angeles many times and felt far far safer in downtown Los Angeles AT 1AM than I do in NOLA at 8pm on a weeknight….

    Its a dangerous, violent city. Most of the blacks who were driven out have filtered off to places like Baton Rouge or Houston, they’re never coming back…in fact I read a news story that said Texas actually gained a congressional district in 2010 because of the Katrina influx….

    Anyway — long story short — the people in the Garden District or who can afford to live in the condos downtown don’t give a rip. They have limos or can call taxis. The middle class meanwhile commute from as far away as Baton Rouge, Mississippi or the north shore of the lake just to get into work in NOLA.

    What crushes me is that the city I knew growing up is dead and gone. There’s been a MASSIVE INFLUX of illegal aliens and Puerto Ricans since 2006. They’ve moved into Mississippi and Baton Rouge as well — think a quarter million to a half million — and nobody has any idea where they came from. In many of the smaller towns and even the suburbs in the late 90s even you could count the number of hispanics on 2 hands — now — they’re more numerous than Asians — and there’s a sizable Viet community in the NOLA region.

    Because the latino influx has taken many of the service jobs since 05 — many blacks — even more so than before have turned to crime or are literally living on the street….

    I’m 6 foot 2 and used to lift weights and weigh 240…I’m a big guy — I’m scared of being on the streets in New Orleans after 8pm. The white vagrants and the older black vagrants who seek safety will actually go and sleep on the lawn in front of the bus station because its well-lit. You sleep in an alley…crackheads will rob you.

    Skid Row is cleaner than New Orleans….

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  55. Yo Steve I’m from the NOLA area and the economy HAS NOT PICKED BACK UP. I still sh*t myself if I’m in NOLA after say 8 or 9pm and if I’m not stayin in a hotel there. YOU DO NOT WANT to be on the street in NOLA if you wander even a few blocks from Canal or Bourbon or any of the touristy areas. My cousin is white trash who lives in Metarie and even she doesn’t go into the city after 8pm. I’ve visited Los Angeles many times and felt far far safer in downtown Los Angeles AT 1AM than I do in NOLA at 8pm on a weeknight….

    Its a dangerous, violent city. Most of the blacks who were driven out have filtered off to places like Baton Rouge or Houston, they’re never coming back…in fact I read a news story that said Texas actually gained a congressional district in 2010 because of the Katrina influx….

    Anyway — long story short — the people in the Garden District or who can afford to live in the condos downtown don’t give a rip. They have limos or can call taxis. The middle class meanwhile commute from as far away as Baton Rouge, Mississippi or the north shore of the lake just to get into work in NOLA.

    What crushes me is that the city I knew growing up is dead and gone. There’s been a MASSIVE INFLUX of illegal aliens and Puerto Ricans since 2006. They’ve moved into Mississippi and Baton Rouge as well — think a quarter million to a half million — and nobody has any idea where they came from. In many of the smaller towns and even the suburbs in the late 90s even you could count the number of hispanics on 2 hands — now — they’re more numerous than Asians — and there’s a sizable Viet community in the NOLA region.

    Because the latino influx has taken many of the service jobs since 05 — many blacks — even more so than before have turned to crime or are literally living on the street….

    I’m 6 foot 2 and used to lift weights and weigh 240…I’m a big guy — I’m scared of being on the streets in New Orleans after 8pm. The white vagrants and the older black vagrants who seek safety will actually go and sleep on the lawn in front of the bus station because its well-lit. You sleep in an alley…crackheads will rob you.

    Skid Row is cleaner than New Orleans….

    The way the city was before Katrina when it had soul and class is dead. Now? Its like a smaller version of Atlanta only with a more artsy tourist trap area that gets boring within a week & nothing much else to do.

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    http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2014/08/gaza_conflict_is_making_some_black_folks_uncomfortable.html

    Gotta serve the massuh or matzuh.

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    http://www.guernicamag.com/features/old-wine-broken-bottle/

    “One might wonder why The Nation would publish an article about a non-event. In fact, ‘the story I am telling here really begins,’ according to the peacenik, ‘at night, [when] those of us who couldn’t restrain ourselves would go into the prison compounds to fuck Arab women.’ Actually, to rape, but why get hung up on nuances in a story so irresistibly titillating, of an Israeli Jew who, unlike his scrawny American counterparts, gets to copulate with macho abandon? And anyhow, his enviously awestruck American editors and readers could rationalize, as the Israeli did, that ‘those who couldn’t restrain themselves did what they thought the Arabs would have done to them had they won the war.’ Just as, if men were women, and women men; then women would rape men; ergo, it’s okay if men rape women. None of The Nation’s house feminists, who periodically erupted in politically correct indignation at the vaguest hint of sexism in the magazine’s pages, objected to the Israeli fucker’s logic.”

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    Steve, I’m shocked you haven’t written about the Oscar Hernandez case out in Bell, CA. It has everything:

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A former mayor of the scandal-ridden city of Bell who could not read or write English was sentenced to serve a year in Los Angeles County jail and five years of probation.

    Oscar Hernandez was ordered Thursday to pay $241,000 in restitution to the city that was driven close to bankruptcy by a scheme to vastly inflate official salaries.

    [Superior Court Judge Kathleen Kennedy] said the former official should not have run for office because he couldn’t read English and wound up rubber-stamping documents for corrupt city manager Robert Rizzo. Hernandez came to the U.S. from Mexico as a teenager.

    “It takes a lot to run a city. One would think that being able to read and write English would be a prerequisite to running a city. I don’t think Mr. Hernandez obtained those skills. Mr. Rizzo took advantage of that, having him sign documents he didn’t read.”

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/California-ex-mayor-sentenced-in-corruption-case-5660012.php

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    http://www.guernicamag.com/features/old-wine-broken-bottle/#comment-21460

    “In Shavit’s distillation, even the sheep of these pathetic Palestinians are ‘gaunt.’ Meanwhile, the Zionist pioneers manage, while making the desert bloom, also to peruse Marx, Dostoyevsky, and Kropotkin, revel in Beethoven, Bach, and Mendelssohn, and are even green-friendly, as they adopt a ‘humane and environmentally friendly socialism.’”

    Sounds like the logic of gentric cleansing. As white/Jewish/homo/mulatto ‘progressives’ are so wonderful, they have every right to drive out the undesirables.

    PS: Isn’t SS more about the suburbs than the cities?

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    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/aug/14/joachim-fest-superior-german-liberal/?insrc=toc

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    How about Rahm kills two birds with one stone? He takes in, not a mere 1000 “kids” from the border invasion, but, say, 30,000 or so. And he only the takes males over 16 years old, they being most “at risk” for violence. He sets them up in South Chicago, and unleashes them on the black population. Now, Hispanics are generally pretty successful at ethnically cleansing blacks, and I think the “children” would have a grand old time raping, murdering and assassinating Chicago’s black population until they flee spontaneously, and Rahm’s problems will be solved.

    Genius! Of course, what would he do with all those “children” now triumphantly occupying formerly black neighborhoods? Hmmm….

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    Currently it is illegal to film adult videos in every state but two: CA and New Hampshire. That there is some filming going on in FL does not change the facts. It is illegal and they could easily be shut down and prosecuted. After all, those types of “films” are nothing more than vice and prostitution.

    Sez who? I thought the entire industry was protected under freedom of expression.

    After all, those types of “films” are nothing more than vice and prostitution.

    Prostitution is illegal in CA, too.

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    Attributing the policies of Michael Bloomberg and Rahm Emmanuel to Steve Sailer does seem especially intellectually dishonest…..

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    “Instead of trying to goad them into moving out to the smaller surrounding areas a back to the homeland movement should be the goal to see if they can be coaxed to move back to their states of origin…Instead of scattering them about they would be much happier with their own homeland concentrated in a couple of states located in the south.”

    Sorry. Yankees love them so much they claim to have fought a war to free them. You love them, they’re yours.

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    ” I’ve visited Los Angeles many times and felt far far safer in downtown Los Angeles AT 1AM than I do in NOLA at 8pm on a weeknight….”

    No predominantly Black city in America is safe to walk in after 8pm, especially if you are a polar bear or a ching chong.

    Black thugs love to rob Asians and Whites at gunpoint.

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    Unlike prostitutes porn performers don’t use condoms so it is certain that any porn performer is going to get STDs. And that is how they are going to get rid of porn as we know it, by mandating condom use for those employed to perform in porn productions , there is already a bill . And the porn business can’t relocate because the LA porn girls are not going to want to be in porn if it means living somewhere like the Chicken Ranch in Nevada, where there are no opportunities to moonlight as a high priced escort for movie executives . Mexico is out because the gangs there would just take over.

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    Getting Americans to be honest with each other is a mighty tall order seeing as the culture itself revolves around lying about anything and everything 24/7, whether it’s the media, the so-called political leadership, the education system, police chiefs, religious leaders or just the local neighborhood gossips and character assassins. What’s not lied about? It goes from the top to the bottom. Getting them all united might also be fairly hard seeing as the billionaire class, composed of the likes of Gates and Yuck-berg, are pretty much united against most of the other inhabitants of the US. Nothing in common, just happen to also breathe air on the same continent, much like a farmer views his cows.

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    Current US policy. More concerned with whether few Russians are in eastern Ukraine(very bad) than whether tons of people from Mexico are invading the US(very good).

    Russia, do NOT invade Ukraine! (… when in fact, Russians are trying to defend eastern Russian-Ukrainians from Kiev assault).

    Mexico and Central America, DO invade the US! (…with full blessing and encouragement of Obama, Guiterrez, and Pelosi — as well as GOP elites — controlled by the Tribe).

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  69. Steve Sailer
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    In 1988, 26-years-ago, my wife and I are standing on North Avenue in Chicago, yuppie paradise to the north, Cabrini Green housing project to the south. A white guy a little older than us comes up to us and tells us we should buy a condo on the south side because the powers that be are going to tear down Cabrini Green. We asked him which alderman would agree to take Cabrini’s residents in his Chicago ward? He didn’t know so we weren’t too enthusiastic about the neighborhood. It turns out that the answer to my question was:

    A. No alderman would agree to build Son of Cabrini Green in his ward.

    B. But, Chicago could use the Magic of the Market via Section 8 vouchers to offload Cabrini-ites to Dubuque and Champaign-Urbana and the like.

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    Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel wants to drive out a sizable fraction of poor black Chicagoans and have them resettle in small towns in the Midwest.

    Whether that’s actually his plan or not, it would be simpler to just (1) more cops and (2) deploy them optimally and make use of improved tactics. See East Orange, N.J for an example of this. While we are at it, neither Champaign nor Dubuque have seen a disagreeable trend in general crime rates or homicide rates in the last 15 years, so this Section 8 strategy must be neutralized by other factors.

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  71. Art Deco
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    No alderman would agree to build Son of Cabrini Green in his ward.

    For a sensible reason. Public agency is a bad delivery vehicle to provide housing pretty much everywhere and for all sorts of clientele other than soldiers-in-a-barracks.

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  72. Art Deco
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    Black thugs love to rob Asians and Whites at gunpoint.

    They may, but crime is still predominantly intra-racial, particularly homicide.

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    I’d like to be lumped with those who think freeing the slaves and ending Jim Crow were good things to do.

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    Come again? The publication has been a collecting pool of poseurs as long as it has been published. The replacement of McConnell with McCarthy as the editor changed nothing and there was a house leftist there in a consequential editorial position as early as 2006.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0705.konetzki.html

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  75. Art Deco
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    He’s actually one of the more congenial and least self-aggrandizing characters on their contributor list.

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    “Nonsense. The goal should be to make them all move to Yankee states. It was the Yankees who insisted on freeing them, the Yankees who refused to send them home, and it’s the Yankees who still brag about all of this as if it’s a source of pride. So blacks are a Yankee responsibility.”

    You imported them in the first place. Should’ve picked your own cotton, gents.

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    I moved to the Detroit area in 2009 at the height of the recession and auto industry collapse, from a nearby and also depressed Midwestern metro.

    At the time, the Berkeley Liberal governor of Michigan Granholm seems now in retrospect to have bought hook, line, and sinker into Florida’s ideas. She had an initiative called “Cool Cities” that were supposed to turn old industrial dumps into hipster capitals like Portland. They key part of her economic plan (in addition to raising taxes during the recession and job exodus) was to lure the movie industry to Michigan with giant incentives. For a while, even conservative leaning papers like the Detroit News bought into it, fawning over celebrity sightings at local diners and the like.

    But when Republicans came to power in 2010, they cleaned house. Michigan’s economy was totally restructured. It’s a Right-T0-Work state now, believe it or not. Their policies have been quite effective at turning the state around. But one of the first things they killed was the incentives for Hollywood. And as soon as those dried up, so did the productions, literally overnight.

    Louisiana and other states are fools for thinking there will be any permanent movie production at home.

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    Don’t forget golf lessons. Lotta lying there too. Somebody recently asked me if I could teach him to hit the ball like I do (below pro level). I said maybe, maybe not, but for $250k prepaid, I’ll explain on a cocktail napkin what I do.

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    It sounds like Granholm wanted to put stuff in campaign advertisements and newspaper articles and did not give a rip whether it had a salutary effect or not. Then again, the woman’s a lawyer and may have little horse sense about economics and business or the training to understand statistics or financial statements.

    Addressing most states’ economic woes would mean injuring extant Democratic clientele, which is why it is not likely to be done. An end to collective bargaining in the public sector, equalizing mean compensation between public and private sectors, actuarially sound pension and benefit programs for public employees, transparent compensation schemes for public employees, impersonal standards in recruitment to and promotion in the civil service (implemented through examinations), ready procedures for terminating civil servants, vigorous crime control with removal of police departments to the county and metropolitan level, simplified welfare programs with perverse incentives excised and social workers tossed out into the street, streamlining public higher education and cutting programs therein, reining in tort law, universal and annual regents’ examinations for all students in primary and secondary school, replacement of high school diplomas with a bevy of certificates earned through examinations, simplified teacher certification, drastic simplification of tax systems…. All these might be salutary, but look who you gore: public employee unions, the education apparat, the social work apparat, public employees in general, the bar, black politicians… Granholm wouldn’t go there even if anything serious occurred to her.

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    Louisiana and other states are fools for thinking there will be any permanent movie production at home.

    It’s easier to be a fool than (1) setting up metropolitan government in the state’s cities (federative, with constituent municipalities) and (2) increasing police manpower, merging fragmented departments, and deploying that manpower optimally with good tactics. Its easier to be a fool than to erect school systems whose imperative is not to please administrators, teacher training faculty, and teachers (in that order) but rather to impart knowledge. Louisiana’s mega problem is crime and most Southern states have indifferent school systems. You want people with options to stay in Louisiana, you have improve security and provide places for them to school their children which do not cost an arm and a leg.

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  81. @Art Deco, you are correct that there were odd-bods from the beginning. Remember the feature piece on Norman Mailer as crypto-conservative? How about Raplh Nader in the same role .That said, there is a point where a list leads to a capsize. I leave it to you to identify that point. For me it was the hiring of Millman because he not only wasn’t in any sense a conservative, but he personally acknowledged as much while touting his loathsome Brooklyn hipster credentials. We all have different breaking points: mine was Millman.

    Further, thanks for posting that link. I wasn’t aware of it. It’s a good insight into TAC’s beginning. I learned a thing or two.

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  82. London seems to be attracting a lot of productions – Fast and the Furious, Star Wars and the last 24 were all done here. There’s a lot of talent around on both the cast and crew side. The FX for Gravity were all done by a London company and actors are high quality and cheap. Very strong stage tradition and the money offered for commercial TV does not compare to anything the domestic production houses can offer unless they get an American co-producer on board. There are large spaces available for big action productions and plenty of tony, high-end streets in central London for those shooting rom-coms. Added to that is a pretty generous tax incentive program for movies that’s recently been extended to TV and video game production.

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    Thanks AMac. Here’s the second comment I posted for Millman, after his “update.”

    August 2, 2014 at 2:45 am
    Re your update:

    “The distinction between description and prescription is important.”

    ” . . . if Sailer . . . . — that’s good to know.”

    What is important to anyone reading you is whether you understand the difference between accuracy and mischaracterization. As a reader, what would be good to know, is when you’re going to begin caring about your credibility? Sailer identified and exposed a strategy explicated, as you well known, with specific examples, most especially in New York City. Sailer is a writer in LA, who hasn’t made a dime on what you claimed he advocated. What would be good to know is why you’re still focused on what Sailer thinks, with still nary a mention of those in your fair city who have put the strategies Sailer identified into effect, not the least, former Mayor Bloomberg. Something else you neglected to mention is highly relevant here. Sailer not only identifies the strategy of displacement/replacement, and provides specific examples of it in action, but he notes that liberal cities get a pass. Here’s the ending of his April, 12, 2012 piece titled “The Rules Don’t Apply in NYC,”

    “Has the American-born black male population of New York City been dropping for years, in part because of police harassment?

    Sure. But, it’s different because this is New York we’re talking about, not some racist backwater.”

    It would be good to know why you are still fixated on the messenger you smeared, rather than those who advocate, put into effect, and, most importantly benefit from these strategies you claim to abhor?

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    See comment #45.

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    “London seems to be attracting a lot of productions – Fast and the Furious, Star Wars and the last 24 were all done here.”

    London is of course besides the point. It’s in a different country and like New York it’s always been a center of TV and film production and always will be.

    Here in the U.S., there are generic, flat featureless places in the vast central expanse of the country that are fighting amongst each other to attract a share of Hollywood productions with very expensive tax breaks that are of dubious economic value. It plays into Hollywood’s hands very well because – although Southern California is scenic – it helps to have shows/movies occasionally shot on location. For example, almost every alien planet on Star Trek looks like Palmdale, because that’s where they go to film. But more importantly, it puts pressure on their local unions and such to be reasonable about their demands, or else they can go someplace else.

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    “Malcolm X advocated the complete separation of African Americans from whites.”

    Okay, but did that include separation from the money of whites? Were whites supposed to pay for these separate and equal facilities?

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    “Has the American-born black male population of New York City been dropping for years, in part because of police harassment? Sure. But, it’s different because this is New York we’re talking about, not some racist backwater.”

    The black population of New York City increased by 253,000 between 2000 and 2010 and by 27,000 between 2010 and 2013.

    The American Community Survey did not include cross tabulations of race, sex, and nativity prior to 2010. The decline in the black male native population in New York City between 2010 and 2012 was all of 1.24%, or about 8,000 people. I’m not sure why you’d attribute that to any single cause and why you’d select the police as the sole cause. There’s the dynamics of local housing markets, changing consumer preferences (the black population in Rochester is a great deal more diffused than it was 30 years ago), changing labor markets &c.

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  88. Art Deco
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    Okay, but did that include separation from the money of whites? Were whites supposed to pay for these separate and equal facilities?

    Recall Louis Farrakhan’s scheme for a ‘separate black economy’ to start with black-owned businesses which produced personal hygiene products? I tend to doubt Malcolm Little / X was thinking that many steps ahead. Spoils the mood.

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    Okay, but did that include separation from the money of whites? Were whites supposed to pay for these separate and equal facilities?

    Whites have to pay for Black facilities no matter what.

    Malcolm X’s plan would have been a bargain.

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    Whites have to pay for Black facilities no matter what.

    What counts as a ‘black’ facility?

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    “They may, but crime is still predominantly intra-racial, particularly homicide.”

    And yet, what are the absolute numbers of black crimes with white victims, versus white crimes with black victims?

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    @Svigor

    I’d like to be lumped with those who think freeing the slaves and ending Jim Crow were good things to do.

    It’s easy to be a do-gooder when you’re playing with someone else’s money. Yankees should take responsibility and absorb the south’s black population. I wonder how much of the welfare state is intended to keep southern blacks in situ?

    The funny part is, the north is more segregated than the south (with far less integration to do), and has been for generations. Belies all their high-flying rhetoric.

    You imported them in the first place. Should’ve picked your own cotton, gents.

    Sorry, that doesn’t fly. If Yankees break into the zoo at night and turn all the animals loose, they don’t get to blame the ensuing rampage on the zookeepers. America’s black problem lies squarely at Yankee feet. Well, at your feet, given how you’ve constructed things.

    This really is radical thinking to you Yankee libs, isn’t it?

    collective bargaining in the public sector

    Is the definition of insanity.

    removal of police departments to the county and metropolitan level

    What now?

    (1) setting up metropolitan government in the state’s cities (federative, with constituent municipalities)

    Again…what?

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    And actually, it was the Yankees who imported them in the first place, crack a book. Triangle trade.

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    CA is a great state in that it can stand in for just about anywhere, any kind of “look” that you want. Regional places like New Orleans can’t really stand in for anything but creole/Mardi Gras/Swamp type stuff. But how often do you really “need” to make that type of film? Once every 15yrs? Really. You can get a swamp look by going to FL’s everglades. Same thing to most folks and really….who cares?

    California’s way up there in terms of ecological diversity, but no, it can’t stand in for everywhere. There’s nothing like the Appalachians in California. There’s very little in the way of real forest in CA, and what it does have is way up in the northern part of the state and it looks like what it is – giant conifer forest. The state’s too arid to be all that representative. It also lacks the All-American look you see in Rocky Mountain states like Colorado and Montana, the prairie look of the great plains, no swamps, no wetlands, etc. California always looks like California to me.

    Of course, CA’s aridity is its main selling point to the film industry, so it is very true that CA is America’s most idea location for the film industry.

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    And the porn business can’t relocate because the LA porn girls are not going to want to be in porn if it means living somewhere like the Chicken Ranch in Nevada, where there are no opportunities to moonlight as a high priced escort for movie executives . Mexico is out because the gangs there would just take over.

    I think it’s safe to say that prostitutes moonlight as porn stars, and not the other way around. They don’t really make enough at porn for the reverse to make much sense.

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    Yes, Numinous, I saw your comment before posting mine. I couldn’t find any meaningful way to distinguish it. Nor, needless to say, did you offer any such thing by merely calling attention to it again. In short, excepting my comments about Millman’s credibility, the balance is, effectively, a retort to you as well.

    Look at the title of Millman’s piece, “The Sailer and Florida Strategies at work in New Orleans.” If you’re still struggling with whether Millman was drawing a close parallel, excepting the “prescription,” I am not going to be able to solve your problem. Perhaps you should consider why no one would profess any suspicions as to whether Florida supports, opposes, or is relatively indifferent to, his own bromides, for which he is well-compensated.

    Yet, you still ask Sailer, “What exactly is your position on this?” Like Millman, you want Sailer to do all your thinking for you — and, even so, that assumes no ulterior motive, which, as I have been forced to belabor, is assumption without foundation when it comes to Millman.

    Speaking of suspicion, a suspect that Sailer is disinterested in a lumpen discussion of his motivations, to the exclusion, seemingly, of everyone else. A fair-minded, intelligently inquisitive person would be rather more interested in those of the moving parties of these identified strategies, if that is your cup of tea. One would be sorely mistaken, I hasten to add, to take anything I have said or, I think, that Sailer has written on this, as amenable to a thumbs up/thumbs down exercise, in any meaningful or serious sense. Admirably, he refuses to Shuck and Jive. The conceit of Millman and, alas, so many others, is that fixating on what he declares in his update as “good to know.” is anything other than a lumpen exercise of selective finger-pointing.

    For the simple reality is that the answer to the question of what Sailer, and everyone else, thinks of the strategies he has written about is “It depends.” It depends on where you sit, or whose shoes you’re putting yourself into; and it depends on how you weigh the relevant social trade-offs. If, by the way, you’re as thoughtful as Sailer, you will consider whether that is a redundancy, meaning both amount to the same thing. In other words, at least as far as the examples of these strategies Sailer discusses, it evidences garden-varietal Tribal Behavior.

    My suspicion is that those for whom his line of reasoning hits to close to home and heart –most especially that the meaningful distinction is not the impulse or the behavior at its root, but in who suffers social and legal consequences for the effort — cannot get themselves to sleep at night knowing that he regularly hits home runs against a team that, sometimes fairly and often not, strikes out most everyone else.who steps up to the plate.

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    “The black population of New York City increased by 253,000 between 2000 and 2010 and by 27,000 between 2010 and 2013.”

    There is New York and there is ‘New York’, the one that matters. Parts of NY that really matter have gotten spruced up and gentrified.

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  98. Steve Sailer
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    New York City has an on-going process in which black immigrants replace African-Americans. Washington DC does too.

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    The black population descended from American slaves has been dropping for decades and is now well under half of the black people in NYC. Caribbean , Central American and African blacks comit far less crime and are all around better behaved.

    East Orange NJ is the same way. Both cities have used very aggressive police tactics. EO is not well known nationally, but the reduction in serious crime has been dramatic. The streets are empty at night now where as 20 years ago, it was like a 24 hour a day thug street carnival.

    At the same time, Trenton, Camden, Hartford and every other city in CT, western MA and numerous small and midsized cities in upstate NY and Eastern PA have been (further) ghettoized by people who used to live in the Bronx.

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    Yes, East Orange and New York City led the country in the lowest ratio of black men to black women in, I believe, the 2000 Census. I can’t tell if that was for real or just the men don’t answer anything from the government out of fear their parole officer would notice it.

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    “They may, but crime is still predominantly intra-racial, particularly homicide.” – crime is predominantly intra-racial because white crime tends to be predominantly intra-racial. If you look at the specific example he cited, blacks go after white and asian victims to rob.

    “I’d like to be lumped with those who think freeing the slaves and ending Jim Crow were good things to do.” – then you’d have no problem with his plan.

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