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Michelle Obama will be back in the news shortly as she sets out on her Getting Paid book promotion tour. Michelle possesses a perfectly natural liking for money, and she’s certain to get a lot of it.

An ironic thing about Michelle Obama, feminist icon, is that she absolutely hated it when people encouraged her to play basketball, like her older brother played at Princeton. She’s a rather feminine lady who doesn’t much like sports, and doesn’t at all like being reminded that she is strong and tall.

Michelle Obama resented Barack pursuing his political dreams in the mediocre-paid Illinois legislature instead of concentrating on being a Good Provider so that she wouldn’t have to work and could be a stay at home mom like her mother was.

 
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  1. Off topic, but does anyone know how to get in touch with Chuck Johnson, formerly of Gotnews?

    His old email addresses all bounce back any messages.

    Thanks guys.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    DM me on Twitter.
  2. Off topic, but does anyone know how to get in touch with Chuck Johnson, formerly of GotNews?

    His public email addresses all seem to be shut down since they bounce back any messages.

    Thanks guys.

  3. FYI,

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/donna-zuckerberg-on-how-the-alt-right-are-co-opting-classics/10474428

    • Replies: @Pericles
    The ultrarich Jewess cries out about you appropriating your culture as she starts magazines to appropriate it. But isn't the problem something else, Donna?

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/167/256/6rur.jpg
    , @JimB
    Donna Zuckerberg has the option to debate the alt-right community but instead wants to go upstream to the universities and stuff classics education with propaganda. She believes that inoculating college students with PC classics GoodThink will assure that any meaningful debate on the internet of persuasive alt-right arguments buttressed by ancient philosophy is swamped by virtue signalling counter rants.
    , @anon
    OT:

    But the original Spartacus had a black gladiator.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLyLBrugD0

    Its an idea dating back to 1960.
    , @Tiny Duck
    GOOD

    For too long white men have dominated the classics
    , @anon

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics
     
    that's rich, coming from a jew

    is this some kind of a game they play where they accuse you of everything they do?

    next she'll claim the Alt-Right is spying on you

  4. She’s a rather feminine lady

    • LOL: Kylie, Prester John
    • Replies: @Kylie
    My nickname for her was "The Golem".
    , @tyrone
    Well she won't have to stand beside Carla Bruni any more ,that helps.
    , @Anona
    Thanks. It's late, I'm tired, and was about to rant that wonderful Michelle is made like a manly man with an unpleasant face and... saved !
  5. Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    I believe that she is seriously considering running. She would have an easier time beating Trump than she would have securing the nomination. Democrats have a deeper bench for 2020 than they did in 2016. It all comes down to whether the field defers to her. "Give the 'ol gal one more go around." Really sick when you think about it. What a sense of entitlement.
    , @Colin Wright
    'Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? '


    We can always hope.
    , @black sea
    Hillary Clinton's favorability rating is lower now than it was during the 2016 election. She's currently hovering around 36%, and this after having lost to a candidate who is himself despised by a large chunk of the electorate.

    Hillary Clinton does not have political chops, as was made evident in her two bids to win the presidency. Her political instincts are decidedly sub-par and at times self-destructive. Though she might conceivably have made a political career for herself on her own abilities, she would never have gotten anywhere near the White House without having married Bill.

    The electorate senses that the status quo isn't working and isn't likely to improve. Hence the rise of Trump and Sanders in 2016, both unconventional candidates who at least talked about issues in terms that are "off-script" for American political discourse. Hillary Clinton is the definition of a wooden, cliche-repeating, political hack who seems not to have thought about any issue in fresh terms since her days at Wellesley.

    Hillary Clinton no longer represents the profile of the Democratic party. The Coalition of the Fringes needs the support of White Female Boomer Matrons, but that clearly can't be their future. Despite all references to hot sauce in her purse and being "in no ways tired," she is tired, and represents a background and identity that might have inspired significant number of voters in the 1990s, when, to seek the White House, she would have had to campaign against her husband. While that would have made for an interesting campaign, she wouldn't been a particularly viable candidate even then.

    Finally, there's the legacy of corruption. Every politician has a past, but Hillary and Bill have been at the game a long time, and there's plenty of unsavory history to be exposed, or re-exposed, and since she reacts horribly to criticism of any sort, that's only going to send her around the bend (again).

    The Democrats would be foolish to run Hillary in 2020, but if they do, that would be evidence enough that they aren't really in earnest about their Rainbow Coalition enthusiasms, and that the party effectively belongs to a couple of Geriatric White Boomers named Clinton.

    , @Mr. Anon

    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?
     
    Not going to happen. The last person who ran a serious campaign for President after having lost a general election was Richard Nixon, and that was 50 years ago. There seems to be a consensus now - you get one chance to run for President as a major party candidate - that's it. Donors won't commit money to a proven loser. Certainly big Democratic Party donors are smarter than that. I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won't win.
    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    Bill and Hill have are setting off on a multiple-city "speaking" tour which can be interpreted in a couple of ways-- (1) just grubbing for more money, (2) getting ready to run in 202o.

    see: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-clintons-do-barnum-and-bailey.html
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    I'd be kind of astounded. I don't think she's in very good health, but she wasn't in very good health in 2016 either.
    , @Louis Renault
    She's a feminist William Jennings Bryan. Definitely the silver standard of 21st century democratic politicians.
    , @Corn
    Jesus, could Hillary survive another campaign? Remember when her security detail had to chuck her in the van back in 2016? Then a few months ago she gave a speech in a muumuu looked like granny in the nursing home.
    , @anon
    From WSJ/Mark Penn.

    I see an attempt to get her out of the way sooner rather than later. Bush/Clinton are in the dustbin of history. Way, way too much baggage. Obama won in 2008 for reasons other than his own merits. Hillary was tired in 2008. She also lost to Trump.

    Getting her out of the way entails getting her out into the reality of the public.
    , @Desiderius
    Yes
    , @Neoconned
    who else do they have who has even half a chance @ beating Trumpster?
    , @J.Ross
    No way is this true, but notice that they sacrifice nothing and probably gain some clickbaited readers by making the claim, and also notice that the Democrats still have nobody. It ping pongs between Hillary and Biden, neither of whom are serious.
  6. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She’s a rather feminine lady
     
    https://66.media.tumblr.com/6962f4feb7517735723041e760eca5a6/tumblr_inline_o3rn0eVl5s1qj2p0p_540.jpg

    My nickname for her was “The Golem”.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    hey! what's wrong with sasquatch?
    , @The Alarmist
    Mine was The Wookie.
    , @Sammler
    Completely wrong. Gordon Brown is The Golem.
  7. She didn’t like being First Lady her last few years. One favorite distraction was working out a lot. That’s how I remember it. So is not pro basketball but she was a gym bunny of sorts, though not the cuddly kind. She really is non political these days. She wants to kick back and enjoy her wealth from writing books etc.
    Hussein O looked awful in the recent speeches – campaigning he did. Mooch gets stronger while Hussein fades away.

    • Replies: @rufus
    " writing " lolz
  8. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    She’s like Tina Turner, a Negress capable of giving birth to children but also capable of beating the hell out of most sad excuses of soyboy white males today in a fistfight, at least in her prime. Not rare among black females. Against the average white current Army infantryman she’d be dead, of course, but against Kurt Cobain she’d have probably KO’d him in the second or third round of a proper boxing match.

    From what I’ve seen (I have never ‘been with’ a black woman but I’ve seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell and either has to shave a lot or has had electrolysis. Probably has a pungent aroma as well. But still, a biological XX chromosome female.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2

    From what I’ve seen (I have never ‘been with’ a black woman but I’ve seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell
     
    Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You're not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant.
    , @Lowe
    I can't tell if you are joking or serious. Even a big woman like Michelle Obama would stand no chance against a noodle-armed soyboy, if he decided to fight, not run.

    A noodle man is still much stronger than a large woman. You could probably pick skinny fat dudes out of their apartments at random and they'd all be able to best female UFC fighters.
  9. • Replies: @Currahee
    Exactly, and soon to be a rather large Aunt Jemima.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    That dress really brings out her traps.
    , @Forbes
    What is the bulge in the middle of her hips?

    Nice Nazi salute, though...
    , @Tiny Duck.
    You can call her “Michael Obama” all you want. She is epitome of beauty and none of you ugly white trash is worthy to touch this beautiful, big woman of color.
  10. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    I believe that she is seriously considering running. She would have an easier time beating Trump than she would have securing the nomination. Democrats have a deeper bench for 2020 than they did in 2016. It all comes down to whether the field defers to her. “Give the ‘ol gal one more go around.” Really sick when you think about it. What a sense of entitlement.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security, I'm pretty sure continued exposure of Hillary Clinton to the public eye is one of the ways the DNC can absolutely ensure 8 years of President Trump. Not unless they can somehow repackage her as anything other than the epitome of the mandarin class that got Trump into office in the first place. And they can't. And they know it.

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020. But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. Look how those ended. Both major political parties no longer have the competence to smartly win elections on their own anymore, even when the opposing party is facing serious problems. It's up to who ends up making themselves less noxious that given year. Our politics is more theatre and caricature than anything else these days.

    , @Barnard
    A Hillary campaign in 2020 would be greeted with the same level of enthusiasm by Democrats as Jeb's campaign was in 2016 by Republicans. I don't see a scenario where she gets nominated.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    She would have no chance against Trump in 2020, assuming the economy continues its upward trend. A strong economy always helps an incumbent President, particularly if it turned up on his watch.
  11. Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”.

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.
     
    How are such things decided?
    , @snorlax
    Spend $100mm on Trump's reelection and you, too, can receive a medal.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”.
     
    Clearly, loyalty to Israel is the highest form of American patriotism.
    , @Wally
    "She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”."

    'And the award for Best Actress in a work of fiction is ... Miriam Adelson.'

    , @Pat Kittle
    Obviously going right to the source would be too obvious.
    , @Anon
    Remember that Star Trek thing, where they'd write something like "You are familiar, of course, with the political theories of Jefferson, Gandhi, and Ilskjdfldi of Rigel IV?"
    , @anon

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”.
     
    makes perfect sense
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Who?
  12. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    How are such things decided?

  13. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    ‘Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? ‘

    We can always hope.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    "Hope springs eternal" and etc. However, she will be two years older by then--73 by my reckoning--all the while her party is being slowly taken over by the Ocasio-Lopez/Kamela Harris crowd. She will have to 1.) lay off the chardonnay and 2.) craft an image of being someone who is a lot more than the empty pants suit that so many in her own party perceive her to be. Neither scenario is likely. Then again, a lot of "experts" wrote off Nixon after '62 too so...we'll see.
  14. “She’s a very feminine lady…….”
    Hilarious. Everyone knows Mike’s a tranny and Obongo is gay. Google up “Michelle Obama Package”, click on “Images”, and you will find numerous revealing pics. Wonder where they obtained the two daughter props? Maybe the guys over in Langley provided them……

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    It is remarkable - the stupid s**t that uncritical, unthinking people will believe. Michelle Obama is clearly a woman; there are lots of pictures of her as a young girl. You guys with your ridiculous theories - that Obama was born in Kenya, or that is wife is a dude - did a lot to undermine any serious criticism of his Presidency. You may as well have been paid by the DNC.
    , @Henry's Cat
    Didn't Michelle just reveal that the daughters were conceived via IVF? I don't know if that means she had something wrong with her eggs, or whether Obama was low on something.
  15. Ironically, had Michelle Obama decided to seriously pursue politics, she would make a better bet than Hillary Clinton for the Democrats in the long-run as a candidate.

    Of course, “a better candidate than Hillary Clinton” isn’t that high of a bar, but think about it. With the tendency of Americans to view most previous Presidents more favorably with hindsight (*George W. Bush* is getting rehabed these days) combined with her husband’s ability to control the Coalition of the Fringes (an ability that only he has truly been proven to have), provided that she opts for a 2008-esque strategy of hammering GOP donor-class boosting politics rather than opting for the full on cultural leftism of Obama’s second term, she could really stand a chance.

    Doesn’t really matter, though, she doesn’t seem at all interested. That, and again, she doesn’t have the political background needed. Trump was only able to circumvent that barrier by virtue of being a billionaire and decades-long celebrity.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    (*George W. Bush* is getting rehabed these days)

    Only on the left, where, as an astute iSteve commenter put it awhile back, they'll always use a dead virus to kill a live virus.

    I despise the execrable George W. Bush and think most on the right do as well.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Running for President is much harder work than Michelle has any interest in doing.
  16. @highfunctioningfuckup
    Off topic, but does anyone know how to get in touch with Chuck Johnson, formerly of Gotnews?

    His old email addresses all bounce back any messages.

    Thanks guys.

    DM me on Twitter.

    • Replies: @highfunctioningfuckup
    done
  17. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    Spend $100mm on Trump’s reelection and you, too, can receive a medal.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    Just like Harvey Weinstein.
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-medal-freedom-20161121-story.html
  18. @Daniel H
    I believe that she is seriously considering running. She would have an easier time beating Trump than she would have securing the nomination. Democrats have a deeper bench for 2020 than they did in 2016. It all comes down to whether the field defers to her. "Give the 'ol gal one more go around." Really sick when you think about it. What a sense of entitlement.

    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security, I’m pretty sure continued exposure of Hillary Clinton to the public eye is one of the ways the DNC can absolutely ensure 8 years of President Trump. Not unless they can somehow repackage her as anything other than the epitome of the mandarin class that got Trump into office in the first place. And they can’t. And they know it.

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020. But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. Look how those ended. Both major political parties no longer have the competence to smartly win elections on their own anymore, even when the opposing party is facing serious problems. It’s up to who ends up making themselves less noxious that given year. Our politics is more theatre and caricature than anything else these days.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    "But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. "

    the "horse with no name"?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security
     
    Privatizing Social Security would be unpopular, but hardly stupid if done right. Chile did it, albeit under a dictator. They're not going back, are they?

    Telling the truth about SS-- it's basically AFDC for old folks-- would be disastrous. Everyone claims to have a claim on it, even though the Supreme Court nixed that when Obama was in diapers.
    , @rufus
    three words: endless mass immigration *
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020.
     
    Right, because of the bad economy. Oh, except the economy isn't bad. So Trump will be beatable because of the foreign policy blunders, like turning Libya into a Moose-Limb Bro'hood state, or Syria into a innocent-blood saturated country. Or landing the Marines in Iran. Except Trump didn't do any of that. So it must be because he is worse than other Republi-traitors like Bush, McCain, Romney, all of whom were literally the reincarnation of Hitler. Except the left considers anyone who disagrees with their stupidity to be 'literally Hitler (tm)"

    Trump has challenges, but if he gets the idiots at (In)justice to break up Google, Microsoft, and Faceebook he'll be as popular than Teddy Roosevelt. And if he stems the tide of immigration through e-Verify he'll be more popular than Teddy Roosevelt.

    Trump pretty much single-handedly stemmed the Blue Wave. He has lots of paths to victory, and he is smart enough to take one of them.

    Barring a stroke and a takeover by Jared or Ivanka, I predict Trump wins in 2020.
  19. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    Hillary Clinton’s favorability rating is lower now than it was during the 2016 election. She’s currently hovering around 36%, and this after having lost to a candidate who is himself despised by a large chunk of the electorate.

    Hillary Clinton does not have political chops, as was made evident in her two bids to win the presidency. Her political instincts are decidedly sub-par and at times self-destructive. Though she might conceivably have made a political career for herself on her own abilities, she would never have gotten anywhere near the White House without having married Bill.

    The electorate senses that the status quo isn’t working and isn’t likely to improve. Hence the rise of Trump and Sanders in 2016, both unconventional candidates who at least talked about issues in terms that are “off-script” for American political discourse. Hillary Clinton is the definition of a wooden, cliche-repeating, political hack who seems not to have thought about any issue in fresh terms since her days at Wellesley.

    Hillary Clinton no longer represents the profile of the Democratic party. The Coalition of the Fringes needs the support of White Female Boomer Matrons, but that clearly can’t be their future. Despite all references to hot sauce in her purse and being “in no ways tired,” she is tired, and represents a background and identity that might have inspired significant number of voters in the 1990s, when, to seek the White House, she would have had to campaign against her husband. While that would have made for an interesting campaign, she wouldn’t been a particularly viable candidate even then.

    Finally, there’s the legacy of corruption. Every politician has a past, but Hillary and Bill have been at the game a long time, and there’s plenty of unsavory history to be exposed, or re-exposed, and since she reacts horribly to criticism of any sort, that’s only going to send her around the bend (again).

    The Democrats would be foolish to run Hillary in 2020, but if they do, that would be evidence enough that they aren’t really in earnest about their Rainbow Coalition enthusiasms, and that the party effectively belongs to a couple of Geriatric White Boomers named Clinton.

    • Replies: @Anon
    The Democrats are trying to defenestrate all the old white pols in their party because of identity politics. There are a lot of true believers and fanatics in their ranks who are completely done with whites. Since Hillary lost and then spent the whole next year whining about it, they're grown sick of her, and anyway they think she's proved she can't win. She won't get the nomination next time.

    Hillary, being who she is, may try to leverage her way into the nomination again with her money, but she needs the superdelegates. I foresee a ferocious battle brewing among the Dems about them.

    It's the superdelegates, and only them, who are keeping the old whites in power. However, since the Dem elites have a plantation mentality towards their black and brown voters, they won't go without a nasty fight. For the old white pols to vanish means they will have lost power to black and brown pols in all the big cities.

    , @Buck Ransom
    IIRC, Time Mag or Newsweek did a splashy cover story in the summer of '92 with a great big pic of Bubba and Hildawg and Algore, and with a headline heralding "The Arrival of a New Generation of Leadership" or some such boilerplate. Must have appeared right after the DNC Convention.

    Somebody needs to track down this cover and start memeing. It's is very memeable, especially when juxtaposed with Clintonian imagery from 2016 or 2018.

    , @Desiderius
    Read Penn’s article.
  20. Michelle Obama paid the price for being Barack’s beard. Yes, she knew the deal when she signed up, but it still has to sting when going through with it.

    The evil Dems need to just pay her off and let her go her way. I despise her because she despises me, a white man with no shame for who I am.

    But still, give her her due. She upheld her side of the deal. The wealthy Dems should just give her whatever money she wants and cut her loose. It’s a good deal for everyone.

    Barack gets to have all the penis he wants, Michelle gets her payoff, and everyone else gets to stop pretending that that Barack is anything other than a gay mulatto who was President based upon being able to read a teleprompter and appearing to have a normal family life.

    • Agree: Steve in Greensboro
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    mis, We hear the constant drum beat of "white privilege " and yet Michelle is the epitome of black privilege, from her Ivy education , her law degree, and her made to order $300k job with the U of Chicago hospital.
  21. I think that Michelle Obama’s parents might have had a Luca Brasi character in their family who wished them that their child is masculine. I think that the wish was granted to Michelle parents.

    • LOL: BenKenobi
  22. If I was Dick Durbin, I’d make sure to extra careful around places where I could easily accidentally fall to my death until at least 2024.

  23. The ” normies ” will luv Michelle O! 2020. NOT

    • Replies: @Bugg
    All the MSM polishing and buffing will n0t change that Michelle Obama is an angry inner city black lady who rode affirmative action literally as far as you can go. Obama was way better packaged and hid the ghetto politician.

    Reminds me of Avon's sister from "The Wire"; always accepting the good stuff from the family business, but not really wanting to know what that really is all about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC06zGTWzlY
  24. @nebulafox
    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security, I'm pretty sure continued exposure of Hillary Clinton to the public eye is one of the ways the DNC can absolutely ensure 8 years of President Trump. Not unless they can somehow repackage her as anything other than the epitome of the mandarin class that got Trump into office in the first place. And they can't. And they know it.

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020. But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. Look how those ended. Both major political parties no longer have the competence to smartly win elections on their own anymore, even when the opposing party is facing serious problems. It's up to who ends up making themselves less noxious that given year. Our politics is more theatre and caricature than anything else these days.

    “But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. ”

    the “horse with no name”?

    • Replies: @E e
    So, as long as the opposing party doesn't run a candidate from Massachusetts?...
  25. @nebulafox
    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security, I'm pretty sure continued exposure of Hillary Clinton to the public eye is one of the ways the DNC can absolutely ensure 8 years of President Trump. Not unless they can somehow repackage her as anything other than the epitome of the mandarin class that got Trump into office in the first place. And they can't. And they know it.

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020. But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. Look how those ended. Both major political parties no longer have the competence to smartly win elections on their own anymore, even when the opposing party is facing serious problems. It's up to who ends up making themselves less noxious that given year. Our politics is more theatre and caricature than anything else these days.

    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security

    Privatizing Social Security would be unpopular, but hardly stupid if done right. Chile did it, albeit under a dictator. They’re not going back, are they?

    Telling the truth about SS– it’s basically AFDC for old folks– would be disastrous. Everyone claims to have a claim on it, even though the Supreme Court nixed that when Obama was in diapers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Phasing out Social(ist) (in)Security would be possible by keeping the present arrangement in force for everyone over a certain young age, like 40, and transitioning younger ones into a different system: one that was mandatory but involved paying into a privately administered retirement fund. There would be a huge shortfall over a number of years until all the Social Security enrolees finally died off, since new people would not be paying in (the Social Security system was in fact a Ponzi scheme from the word go that worked so long as the new entrants exceeded the doieoffs each year by a certain amount), but this could be financed by general government debt or monetized by printing cash so long as the amounts were limited to a predictable and finite amount, meaning that it would be a tax on all outstanding currency, but a finite one-an inconvenience rather than a Weimar wheelbarrow hyperinflation.

    However for this to work we would need a stable government run by a trustworthy organization over the 50+ year transition. We do not and will not have that. I'm convinced that the United States Government will be as financially extant as the Confederate States is now, before 2100 for certain, and maybe before 2050. So the whole thing is moot if you expect to retire between 2050 and 2100.

    , @bjondo
    SS fine.
    Reduce Pentagon from 5 wings to 2.
    SS gets 2
    Single Payer Health 1

    Homelandsecurity can sacrifice itself then disappear.

    All dollars,anything going to Israel, Yid entities go to SS and Single Payer.

    Country defended, healthy, happy.

  26. One of Larry Auster’s readers called her a “tree”. That seems about right.

    • Replies: @candid_observer

    One of Larry Auster’s readers called her a “tree”. That seems about right.
     
    With a lotta junk in the trunk.
    , @Lugash
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017487.html
  27. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @black sea
    Hillary Clinton's favorability rating is lower now than it was during the 2016 election. She's currently hovering around 36%, and this after having lost to a candidate who is himself despised by a large chunk of the electorate.

    Hillary Clinton does not have political chops, as was made evident in her two bids to win the presidency. Her political instincts are decidedly sub-par and at times self-destructive. Though she might conceivably have made a political career for herself on her own abilities, she would never have gotten anywhere near the White House without having married Bill.

    The electorate senses that the status quo isn't working and isn't likely to improve. Hence the rise of Trump and Sanders in 2016, both unconventional candidates who at least talked about issues in terms that are "off-script" for American political discourse. Hillary Clinton is the definition of a wooden, cliche-repeating, political hack who seems not to have thought about any issue in fresh terms since her days at Wellesley.

    Hillary Clinton no longer represents the profile of the Democratic party. The Coalition of the Fringes needs the support of White Female Boomer Matrons, but that clearly can't be their future. Despite all references to hot sauce in her purse and being "in no ways tired," she is tired, and represents a background and identity that might have inspired significant number of voters in the 1990s, when, to seek the White House, she would have had to campaign against her husband. While that would have made for an interesting campaign, she wouldn't been a particularly viable candidate even then.

    Finally, there's the legacy of corruption. Every politician has a past, but Hillary and Bill have been at the game a long time, and there's plenty of unsavory history to be exposed, or re-exposed, and since she reacts horribly to criticism of any sort, that's only going to send her around the bend (again).

    The Democrats would be foolish to run Hillary in 2020, but if they do, that would be evidence enough that they aren't really in earnest about their Rainbow Coalition enthusiasms, and that the party effectively belongs to a couple of Geriatric White Boomers named Clinton.

    The Democrats are trying to defenestrate all the old white pols in their party because of identity politics. There are a lot of true believers and fanatics in their ranks who are completely done with whites. Since Hillary lost and then spent the whole next year whining about it, they’re grown sick of her, and anyway they think she’s proved she can’t win. She won’t get the nomination next time.

    Hillary, being who she is, may try to leverage her way into the nomination again with her money, but she needs the superdelegates. I foresee a ferocious battle brewing among the Dems about them.

    It’s the superdelegates, and only them, who are keeping the old whites in power. However, since the Dem elites have a plantation mentality towards their black and brown voters, they won’t go without a nasty fight. For the old white pols to vanish means they will have lost power to black and brown pols in all the big cities.

    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    Do you actually believe this?


    Inclusivity and diversity are NOT being anti white except in your hateful racist mind
  28. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security
     
    Privatizing Social Security would be unpopular, but hardly stupid if done right. Chile did it, albeit under a dictator. They're not going back, are they?

    Telling the truth about SS-- it's basically AFDC for old folks-- would be disastrous. Everyone claims to have a claim on it, even though the Supreme Court nixed that when Obama was in diapers.

    Phasing out Social(ist) (in)Security would be possible by keeping the present arrangement in force for everyone over a certain young age, like 40, and transitioning younger ones into a different system: one that was mandatory but involved paying into a privately administered retirement fund. There would be a huge shortfall over a number of years until all the Social Security enrolees finally died off, since new people would not be paying in (the Social Security system was in fact a Ponzi scheme from the word go that worked so long as the new entrants exceeded the doieoffs each year by a certain amount), but this could be financed by general government debt or monetized by printing cash so long as the amounts were limited to a predictable and finite amount, meaning that it would be a tax on all outstanding currency, but a finite one-an inconvenience rather than a Weimar wheelbarrow hyperinflation.

    However for this to work we would need a stable government run by a trustworthy organization over the 50+ year transition. We do not and will not have that. I’m convinced that the United States Government will be as financially extant as the Confederate States is now, before 2100 for certain, and maybe before 2050. So the whole thing is moot if you expect to retire between 2050 and 2100.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    Phasing out Social(ist) (in)Security would be possible by keeping the present arrangement in force for everyone over a certain young age, like 40, and transitioning younger ones into a different system: one that was mandatory but involved paying into a privately administered retirement fund.
     
    The gov't is not obligated to pay out one dime of Social Security. The SCOTUS ruled back in the thirties that people could not be forced into a contract. However, the legislature may levy taxes and may spend money. Our SS is collected today and disbursed today. There is no fund anywhere. No accounts or any such thing. Social Security can be repealed at any time. I don't think it will be, but it cannot be replaced with any kind of contractual agreement like you could have with private company selling bonds or mutual funds etc.
  29. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”.

    Clearly, loyalty to Israel is the highest form of American patriotism.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Clearly, loyalty to Israel is the highest form of American patriotism.
     
    Shipping our Jews to Israel would help us out politically, but that would ruin Israel. It would mean the return of the Labor Party, which is wrong about everything.
  30. @nsa
    "She's a very feminine lady......."
    Hilarious. Everyone knows Mike's a tranny and Obongo is gay. Google up "Michelle Obama Package", click on "Images", and you will find numerous revealing pics. Wonder where they obtained the two daughter props? Maybe the guys over in Langley provided them......

    It is remarkable – the stupid s**t that uncritical, unthinking people will believe. Michelle Obama is clearly a woman; there are lots of pictures of her as a young girl. You guys with your ridiculous theories – that Obama was born in Kenya, or that is wife is a dude – did a lot to undermine any serious criticism of his Presidency. You may as well have been paid by the DNC.

    • Replies: @donut
    I don't think that's serious just snark . She would make a good field hand though .
    , @meh

    It is remarkable – the stupid s**t that uncritical, unthinking people will believe. Michelle Obama is clearly a woman; there are lots of pictures of her as a young girl. You guys with your ridiculous theories – that Obama was born in Kenya, or that is wife is a dude – did a lot to undermine any serious criticism of his Presidency. You may as well have been paid by the DNC.
     
    Dude, it's a meme.
    , @Truth
    Well I'd like you to be right, grasshopper, but you are not.

    But, on the bright side, your getting o% on the quiz beat the hell out of the other simpletons here who have scored a .2%

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76CLTsTcTJI
  31. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    Not going to happen. The last person who ran a serious campaign for President after having lost a general election was Richard Nixon, and that was 50 years ago. There seems to be a consensus now – you get one chance to run for President as a major party candidate – that’s it. Donors won’t commit money to a proven loser. Certainly big Democratic Party donors are smarter than that. I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won’t win.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won’t win.

    I actually voted for Romney in the 2012 Republican primary, when he was still pretending to be concerned about illegal immigration, a stance he dropped that as soon as he won the nomination. When, in the debates, Obama challenged him about his support for "self deportation," Romney stood there looking as dumbstruck as Dan Quayle. If he had responded forcefully it would have made a difference, but he didn't actually believe in policies he had campaigned on.

    I get so tired of Hannity talking about what a fine man Mitt Romney is. Maybe to his immediate family that is so. As a politician, he is just another duplicitous bastard like John McCain.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Mr. Anon:

    "but he [Romney] won't run"
     
    I beg to differ. Once elected as Senator, Romney will pose as the anti-Trumpster extraordinaire (i.e., John McCain on steroids).

    He will only be replaying the petulant spoilsport role pioneered by his father George Romney.
  32. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    “She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”.”

    ‘And the award for Best Actress in a work of fiction is … Miriam Adelson.’

  33. She’s a rather feminine lady

    LOL

  34. Wouldn’t it help if Michelle Obama was female?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Not "was" – "were," damn it.

    Ugh.
  35. Barack Obama seems to have aged ten years in the 21 months he has been out of office. Michelle looks about the same. And like Al Gore and the Clintons before them, they’re making money, hand over fist.

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/09/25/michelle-obama-book-tour-ticket-prices/

    https://www.trbimg.com/img-5be5c6e6/turbine/ct-1541785311-0qs7w0s66j-snap-image/750/750×422

  36. @Mr. Anon
    It is remarkable - the stupid s**t that uncritical, unthinking people will believe. Michelle Obama is clearly a woman; there are lots of pictures of her as a young girl. You guys with your ridiculous theories - that Obama was born in Kenya, or that is wife is a dude - did a lot to undermine any serious criticism of his Presidency. You may as well have been paid by the DNC.

    I don’t think that’s serious just snark . She would make a good field hand though .

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "She [Michelle Obama] would make a good field hand though."

    Lol! She's got the bulk, no doubt, but she's got an attitude to match. "Sullen wench" comes to mind. It'd be easier to pick your own cotton. Safer, too.
  37. @FKA Max
    FYI,

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/donna-zuckerberg-on-how-the-alt-right-are-co-opting-classics/10474428

    The ultrarich Jewess cries out about you appropriating your culture as she starts magazines to appropriate it. But isn’t the problem something else, Donna?

  38. @Kylie
    My nickname for her was "The Golem".

    hey! what’s wrong with sasquatch?

    • Replies: @Clyde

    hey! what’s wrong with sasquatch?
     
    Bigfoot is a good Moochelle nickname. She must wear the equivalent of size 14 men's.
  39. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    Obviously going right to the source would be too obvious.

  40. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She’s a rather feminine lady
     
    https://66.media.tumblr.com/6962f4feb7517735723041e760eca5a6/tumblr_inline_o3rn0eVl5s1qj2p0p_540.jpg

    Well she won’t have to stand beside Carla Bruni any more ,that helps.

    • Replies: @Truth
    How much does it help?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_1kJxLhps4
  41. @nsa
    "She's a very feminine lady......."
    Hilarious. Everyone knows Mike's a tranny and Obongo is gay. Google up "Michelle Obama Package", click on "Images", and you will find numerous revealing pics. Wonder where they obtained the two daughter props? Maybe the guys over in Langley provided them......

    Didn’t Michelle just reveal that the daughters were conceived via IVF? I don’t know if that means she had something wrong with her eggs, or whether Obama was low on something.

    • Replies: @Hank Archer
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/11/09/michelle-obama-miscarriage-ivf-children-pregnancy-robin-roberts-gma/1940485002/
    , @Anonymous
    Poor sperm, or no sperm, from the husband would not be cause for IVF. Poor sperm can be concentrated, no sperm obviously requires a designated hitter be brought in.

    A lot of alt-right/conspiracy theory speculation on Michelle Obama is just that, speculation. Without access to her medical records, (which would be a federal beef and cost someone jail time in all likelihood) it just makes the perpetrator look ridiculous.

    The ascertainable facts about the Obamas are bad enough an indictment on the society that did elect them: the speculations just take away from those. (FWIW, I do believe it's highly likely Frank Marshall Davis is BHOs real biological father, but without DNA proof, it's just more speculation.)
  42. OT: Jungle Asian doing jobs Australians just won’t do:

    https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10486770

  43. Unless my memory is playing tricks on me, Mrs. Robinson had a secretarial job. Mr. Robinson, IIRC, was a technician with the local water authority. I’ll wager BO”s earnings stream more than matched his father-in-law’s in real terms. It’s just that Mooch has expensive tastes (and both of them have had problems with expenditure control).

    Few ordinary women have spent 85%-100% of their work life on political patronage and I doubt you’ll find more than a few who have been so handsomely compensated in such positions. They are both odd in that they have had (at least in their work history) a simulacrum of an adult life rather than the real thing. (You want to hack off a partisan Democrat, just recite BO’s work history with spare descriptive remarks about what he did do and did not do in the positions he held).

    While we’re at it, there’s not much indication that Michelle Obama likes money per se. Joe Dimaggio liked money. Mooch likes high-end goods and services you buy with money.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    While we’re at it, there’s not much indication that Michelle Obama likes money per se. Joe Dimaggio liked money. Mooch likes high-end goods and services you buy with money.
     
    "For the love of high-end goods and services is the root of all evil" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    As Bernadette Peters put it in The Jerk, "I don't care about losing all the money. It's losing all the stuff."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfug0oN1Jt8
    , @Steve Sailer
    Michelle was Jesse Jackson's babysitter, so she had a fair amount of exposure to affluence. (I drove by Jesse's house in 1988 when he was running for president. It was a nice big house although not super luxurious. It seemed roughly appropriate for a man who could had some Presidential primaries.)
  44. @tyrone
    hey! what's wrong with sasquatch?

    hey! what’s wrong with sasquatch?

    Bigfoot is a good Moochelle nickname. She must wear the equivalent of size 14 men’s.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    The squatch part sounds so dirty.
  45. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    Bill and Hill have are setting off on a multiple-city “speaking” tour which can be interpreted in a couple of ways– (1) just grubbing for more money, (2) getting ready to run in 202o.

    see: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-clintons-do-barnum-and-bailey.html

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    I'd posit that both 1 & 2 apply.
    , @Lurker
    (3) Both?

    (4) Running (1) to test the water for (2)?
    , @anon

    (1) just grubbing for more money, (2) getting ready to run in 202o.
     
    You repeat yourself.
  46. Below is the link to Michelle LaVaughn Robinson’s senior thesis at Princeton, “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community.”

    A more descriptive title should have been: “Self-reflection and Resentment at Princeton.”

    That something like this would be accepted as a capstone for a Princeton degree gives one a very good sense of how important Affirmative Action is for the Ivy Leagues. It also puts Michelle’s 2008 comment that “America is just a downright mean place” into a autobiographical perspective.

    https://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The sociologist Paul Hollandar took the view that people will seldom claim the status of victim if there isn't some benefit attached. Mooch was wasting time and effort on that because it was solicited by people in authority. The people in authority are otiose about investigating the effects of their contrivances on their supposed clients because they're really doing it for themselves. For Mooch to have rejected the proffered solicitude was certainly an option, but not one a green youngster uncertain of her true place in the world is most likely to take. Her mother and father were wage earners for whom any kind of higher education would have been foreign territory, much less Princeton; they weren't the best equipped pair to advise her in such matters.

    Look at her life. She goes to law school and is admitted to the bar. She only practices for about 3 years, then quits. Then she lands a vague position at city hall (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett). Then she lands another position in city government in the housing and property development apparat (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett), during which time her law license lapses. Nothing in her background indicates she would know a blessed thing about housing provision and maintenance. After a couple of years there, she lands one position and then another and then another in the diversity racket, paid $300,000 a year after 14 years of doing that work, even though dollars-to-doughnuts she was a zero-marginal-product employee.
  47. @Anon
    The Democrats are trying to defenestrate all the old white pols in their party because of identity politics. There are a lot of true believers and fanatics in their ranks who are completely done with whites. Since Hillary lost and then spent the whole next year whining about it, they're grown sick of her, and anyway they think she's proved she can't win. She won't get the nomination next time.

    Hillary, being who she is, may try to leverage her way into the nomination again with her money, but she needs the superdelegates. I foresee a ferocious battle brewing among the Dems about them.

    It's the superdelegates, and only them, who are keeping the old whites in power. However, since the Dem elites have a plantation mentality towards their black and brown voters, they won't go without a nasty fight. For the old white pols to vanish means they will have lost power to black and brown pols in all the big cities.

    Do you actually believe this?

    Inclusivity and diversity are NOT being anti white except in your hateful racist mind

    • Replies: @fish
    Ohs Tinys…..!

    Present statement contradicted by every previous post!


    Lendsporg
  48. Not very respectful of our Forever First Lady here lol. Good thing she’s too lazy to run for Senate.

  49. She couldn’t be content with the residuals from Star Wars?

  50. @Stephen Paul Foster
    Bill and Hill have are setting off on a multiple-city "speaking" tour which can be interpreted in a couple of ways-- (1) just grubbing for more money, (2) getting ready to run in 202o.

    see: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-clintons-do-barnum-and-bailey.html

    I’d posit that both 1 & 2 apply.

  51. @Kylie
    My nickname for her was "The Golem".

    Mine was The Wookie.

  52. OT

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Projection. I almost feel sorry for him.
  53. Poor Joan Rivers couldn’t keep her mouth shut about the Obamas’ “orientation” and promptly did not survive a minor surgical procedure.

    This video includes Joan’s fatal mistake:
    Michelle Obama Caught Fixing Her Package –

    • Replies: @Currahee
    "it's okay, he doesn't know it..."

    Miss Joan a lot.
  54. You’re getting pretty catty as of late, Steve.

  55. Michelle began her own illustrious career with her Princeton thesis on Being Black at Princeton, so it is natural that she will continue her groundbreaking work with a book about Being Black in the White House While Being Married to a Man Who Was Being Black While President.

    • LOL: Abe
    • Replies: @Bugg
    As Derb might say - blackety black blackety black black black. Hard to see there being a broad market it for that, but worked for her husband.
    , @Forbes
    And Michelle's book will be bought by people who want to display it (vanity-signal) on their bookshelf, to go with several others that haven't been read either...
    , @anon
    Too bad he wasn't able to be a real President while being Black.
  56. Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf. Said it was racist. Of course, she was wearing red, just like a Target employee, and she is, as Steve notes, six feet tall. But when you and your husband are the leaders of the let’s-find-racism-in-all-aspects-of life movement, you can’t be bothered by details like that.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf.
     
    I'll take Shit That Didn't Happen for $200, Alex.
    , @OFWHAP
    She actually used that anecdote on two different shows with two different contexts. One was with, as you mentioned, the "racist" angle that so offended Michelle. The next one she was laughing/smiling while telling the story and was actually happy to help.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I had an old, short black lady ask me to reach something for her at the supermarket. She was polite and called me "young man." How can someone find offense in interactions like this?
    , @Colin Wright
    'Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf...'

    The first problem with this is the likelihood of Michelle Obama being in a Target store.
  57. @nebulafox
    Ironically, had Michelle Obama decided to seriously pursue politics, she would make a better bet than Hillary Clinton for the Democrats in the long-run as a candidate.

    Of course, "a better candidate than Hillary Clinton" isn't that high of a bar, but think about it. With the tendency of Americans to view most previous Presidents more favorably with hindsight (*George W. Bush* is getting rehabed these days) combined with her husband's ability to control the Coalition of the Fringes (an ability that only he has truly been proven to have), provided that she opts for a 2008-esque strategy of hammering GOP donor-class boosting politics rather than opting for the full on cultural leftism of Obama's second term, she could really stand a chance.

    Doesn't really matter, though, she doesn't seem at all interested. That, and again, she doesn't have the political background needed. Trump was only able to circumvent that barrier by virtue of being a billionaire and decades-long celebrity.

    (*George W. Bush* is getting rehabed these days)

    Only on the left, where, as an astute iSteve commenter put it awhile back, they’ll always use a dead virus to kill a live virus.

    I despise the execrable George W. Bush and think most on the right do as well.

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @Forbes

    I despise the execrable George W. Bush and think most on the right do as well.
     
    I try to make it a rule not to have strong feelings about politicians. Sooner or later they are bound to disappoint--or worse. To care about them, you'd have to give a shit--it's unlikely they give a shit about you. And those who win elections, we are stuck with for years at a time.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Agree.
  58. This is what can de defined as leftist “progress” : installing a brazen, uncouth, unread, double-digit IQ classlesss fool into the WH.

    Meaning the US has “progressed” from an entity headed up by such sophisticated men of letters such as Jefferson, to a fools paradise in which boogoolooing nit-wits are to be in the position of having to deal with cunning actual “statesmen” such as VP, and then having the floor mopped up by their own stupidity and complete lack of insight.

    America is a hopeless case.

    Authenticjazzman ” Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    America is a hopeless case.
     
    No, it isn't. We will win this, and when we do, we will be sure to keep anyone with a '” Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.' profile as far from the levers of power as possible.
  59. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    I’d be kind of astounded. I don’t think she’s in very good health, but she wasn’t in very good health in 2016 either.

  60. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    Remember that Star Trek thing, where they’d write something like “You are familiar, of course, with the political theories of Jefferson, Gandhi, and Ilskjdfldi of Rigel IV?”

    • Replies: @Redman
    That was early Jay Leno from the Letterman Show.

    Back when he was very funny still.
  61. @Art Deco
    Unless my memory is playing tricks on me, Mrs. Robinson had a secretarial job. Mr. Robinson, IIRC, was a technician with the local water authority. I'll wager BO"s earnings stream more than matched his father-in-law's in real terms. It's just that Mooch has expensive tastes (and both of them have had problems with expenditure control).

    Few ordinary women have spent 85%-100% of their work life on political patronage and I doubt you'll find more than a few who have been so handsomely compensated in such positions. They are both odd in that they have had (at least in their work history) a simulacrum of an adult life rather than the real thing. (You want to hack off a partisan Democrat, just recite BO's work history with spare descriptive remarks about what he did do and did not do in the positions he held).

    While we're at it, there's not much indication that Michelle Obama likes money per se. Joe Dimaggio liked money. Mooch likes high-end goods and services you buy with money.

    While we’re at it, there’s not much indication that Michelle Obama likes money per se. Joe Dimaggio liked money. Mooch likes high-end goods and services you buy with money.

    “For the love of high-end goods and services is the root of all evil” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

  62. @Stephen Paul Foster
    Below is the link to Michelle LaVaughn Robinson's senior thesis at Princeton, "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community."

    A more descriptive title should have been: "Self-reflection and Resentment at Princeton."

    That something like this would be accepted as a capstone for a Princeton degree gives one a very good sense of how important Affirmative Action is for the Ivy Leagues. It also puts Michelle's 2008 comment that "America is just a downright mean place" into a autobiographical perspective.


    https://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

    The sociologist Paul Hollandar took the view that people will seldom claim the status of victim if there isn’t some benefit attached. Mooch was wasting time and effort on that because it was solicited by people in authority. The people in authority are otiose about investigating the effects of their contrivances on their supposed clients because they’re really doing it for themselves. For Mooch to have rejected the proffered solicitude was certainly an option, but not one a green youngster uncertain of her true place in the world is most likely to take. Her mother and father were wage earners for whom any kind of higher education would have been foreign territory, much less Princeton; they weren’t the best equipped pair to advise her in such matters.

    Look at her life. She goes to law school and is admitted to the bar. She only practices for about 3 years, then quits. Then she lands a vague position at city hall (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett). Then she lands another position in city government in the housing and property development apparat (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett), during which time her law license lapses. Nothing in her background indicates she would know a blessed thing about housing provision and maintenance. After a couple of years there, she lands one position and then another and then another in the diversity racket, paid $300,000 a year after 14 years of doing that work, even though dollars-to-doughnuts she was a zero-marginal-product employee.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Good comment. I'm quite envious of 6-figure diversity sinecures. Great work if you can get it.

    Also, I'll admit it -- I had to look up "otiose"
    , @Desiderius
    Zero would put her in the ninetieth percentile in that line of work.
  63. @Colin Wright
    'Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? '


    We can always hope.

    “Hope springs eternal” and etc. However, she will be two years older by then–73 by my reckoning–all the while her party is being slowly taken over by the Ocasio-Lopez/Kamela Harris crowd. She will have to 1.) lay off the chardonnay and 2.) craft an image of being someone who is a lot more than the empty pants suit that so many in her own party perceive her to be. Neither scenario is likely. Then again, a lot of “experts” wrote off Nixon after ’62 too so…we’ll see.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    It's also post-#MeToo. Juanita Broaddrick would make a delicious VP pick for the other side; if she's too old, then Kathleen Willey.
    , @ScarletNumber

    Ocasio-Lopez
     
    That would be Cortez, not Lopez
  64. @Mr. Anon

    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?
     
    Not going to happen. The last person who ran a serious campaign for President after having lost a general election was Richard Nixon, and that was 50 years ago. There seems to be a consensus now - you get one chance to run for President as a major party candidate - that's it. Donors won't commit money to a proven loser. Certainly big Democratic Party donors are smarter than that. I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won't win.

    I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won’t win.

    I actually voted for Romney in the 2012 Republican primary, when he was still pretending to be concerned about illegal immigration, a stance he dropped that as soon as he won the nomination. When, in the debates, Obama challenged him about his support for “self deportation,” Romney stood there looking as dumbstruck as Dan Quayle. If he had responded forcefully it would have made a difference, but he didn’t actually believe in policies he had campaigned on.

    I get so tired of Hannity talking about what a fine man Mitt Romney is. Maybe to his immediate family that is so. As a politician, he is just another duplicitous bastard like John McCain.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Yes, Romney is a slippery opportunist. I never liked him.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    As a politician, he is just another duplicitous bastard like John McCain.
     
    True.
  65. Does this weighty tome discuss why the brilliant and talented Michelle Obama voluntarily surrendered her Illinois law license?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    She allowed it to lapse in 1993 because she wasn't using it. BO's lapsed in 2002 for the same reason.
  66. Anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    Snitty review of Robert Plomin’s Blueprint at The Spectator from Turkheimer acolyte Kathryn Paige Harden:

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/heredity-is-only-half-the-story/

    I’m not even sure what her complaint is. It seems to mostly be that Plomin didn’t write the book that Harden would have written. He didn’t wring his hands and mention eugenics and race and does-free-will-exist philosophy.

    For my part, I like his just-the-science approach.

    Harden also seems to want him to have disclaimers and qualifications for everything he says. But he says up front that he is not going to do that for the sake of making the book readable. The endnotes have all kinds of that stuff anyway. In fact, I think that the main contribution of the book’s editor was to convince him to hide the boffin stuff in the notes.

    The left seems to be operating from a rent-seeking standpoint. They want everything that their opponents write to have to include mention of the left’s positions, however tendentious and flakey. It reminds me of Canadian indigenous land acknowledgements that are becoming necessary to insert in any public communications.

    • Replies: @res
    I love the damned if you do, damned if you don't gotcha game:

    He also avoids any mention of race, the typical flashpoint of controversy for genetics books. Both omissions will strike many readers — particularly in America, where racial divisions loom large — as irresponsible.
     
    I think the main purpose of reviews like that is just to make sure that the goodthinkers know the book is heretical.

    This false equivalency is also quite fun:

    Plomin makes sense of his personal struggles to maintain body weight by noting that his polygenic score for body weight is above average, just as I make sense of the fact that I’m jealous and stubborn by noting that I’m a Taurus.

     

    I think that makes clear how seriously Kathryn Paige Harden should be taken once she puts her goodthinker hat on. She is only in her mid 30s so there should be lots of time to chuckle at the things she says now with the benefit of the hindsight offered by future genetic studies: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/fashion/weddings/20harden.html

    P.S. Thanks for the link. Maybe you should add a comment to James Thompson's review of the book today? Also, does the Spectator not allow even READING comments for non-subscribers?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The left seems to be operating from a rent-seeking standpoint.
     
    That's the whole point of their existence. That's all it ever was.
  67. @Art Deco
    Unless my memory is playing tricks on me, Mrs. Robinson had a secretarial job. Mr. Robinson, IIRC, was a technician with the local water authority. I'll wager BO"s earnings stream more than matched his father-in-law's in real terms. It's just that Mooch has expensive tastes (and both of them have had problems with expenditure control).

    Few ordinary women have spent 85%-100% of their work life on political patronage and I doubt you'll find more than a few who have been so handsomely compensated in such positions. They are both odd in that they have had (at least in their work history) a simulacrum of an adult life rather than the real thing. (You want to hack off a partisan Democrat, just recite BO's work history with spare descriptive remarks about what he did do and did not do in the positions he held).

    While we're at it, there's not much indication that Michelle Obama likes money per se. Joe Dimaggio liked money. Mooch likes high-end goods and services you buy with money.

    As Bernadette Peters put it in The Jerk, “I don’t care about losing all the money. It’s losing all the stuff.”

  68. Ever notice how often she insinuates Barak is not very manly? It’s meant to be simple ‘self-deprecation’ from the Obama Inc. perspective, but it seems a bit more. Lots of hints about his dorky, white-boy demeanor. He’s got a big intellectual appeal, and now wealth and riches, but I can see how she finds him wimpy.

    • Replies: @BB753
    I believe it's pretty much well established that Barack is in the closet.
  69. @newrouter
    The " normies " will luv Michelle O! 2020. NOT

    All the MSM polishing and buffing will n0t change that Michelle Obama is an angry inner city black lady who rode affirmative action literally as far as you can go. Obama was way better packaged and hid the ghetto politician.

    Reminds me of Avon’s sister from “The Wire”; always accepting the good stuff from the family business, but not really wanting to know what that really is all about

    • Replies: @Forbes
    The 'behind the scene' woman who let you know, in no uncertain terms, when you weren't getting the job done.
    , @Art Deco
    Michelle Obama is an angry inner city black lady who rode affirmative action literally as far as you can go.

    She came from an intact wage-earner family and her father was a skilled worker. "Cold and snippy" I'd wager is closer to the mark than 'angry'. She did benefit handsomely from patronage. Unlike Houston Baker, she didn't have to give lectures to undergraduates, write inane blather for academic journals, or act like a loon in order to get the swag.
  70. @Buzz Mohawk
    Michelle began her own illustrious career with her Princeton thesis on Being Black at Princeton, so it is natural that she will continue her groundbreaking work with a book about Being Black in the White House While Being Married to a Man Who Was Being Black While President.

    As Derb might say – blackety black blackety black black black. Hard to see there being a broad market it for that, but worked for her husband.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Obama didn't run as Ta-Nehisi Coates. His state legislative races were non-competitive and his federal campaigns didn't turn much on explicit racial appeals. Bobby Rush, who is black in a straightforward way BO isn't, cleaned his clock.
  71. @Daniel H
    I believe that she is seriously considering running. She would have an easier time beating Trump than she would have securing the nomination. Democrats have a deeper bench for 2020 than they did in 2016. It all comes down to whether the field defers to her. "Give the 'ol gal one more go around." Really sick when you think about it. What a sense of entitlement.

    A Hillary campaign in 2020 would be greeted with the same level of enthusiasm by Democrats as Jeb’s campaign was in 2016 by Republicans. I don’t see a scenario where she gets nominated.

  72. @Jack Hanson
    Wouldn't it help if Michelle Obama was female?

    Not “was” – “were,” damn it.

    Ugh.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    Agree. It amazes me how the subjunctive mood is butchered in so many posts on so many sites.
  73. @Daniel H
    I believe that she is seriously considering running. She would have an easier time beating Trump than she would have securing the nomination. Democrats have a deeper bench for 2020 than they did in 2016. It all comes down to whether the field defers to her. "Give the 'ol gal one more go around." Really sick when you think about it. What a sense of entitlement.

    She would have no chance against Trump in 2020, assuming the economy continues its upward trend. A strong economy always helps an incumbent President, particularly if it turned up on his watch.

    • Replies: @megabar
    > A strong economy always helps an incumbent President

    As the stark contrast between left and right grows, the economy will be less important as a campaign issue.
  74. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    She’s a feminist William Jennings Bryan. Definitely the silver standard of 21st century democratic politicians.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    She’s a feminist William Jennings Bryan. Definitely the silver standard of 21st century democratic politicians.

    She, however, is only too happy to crucify Mankind on a cross of gold, provided she gets to keep it.
  75. @black sea
    Hillary Clinton's favorability rating is lower now than it was during the 2016 election. She's currently hovering around 36%, and this after having lost to a candidate who is himself despised by a large chunk of the electorate.

    Hillary Clinton does not have political chops, as was made evident in her two bids to win the presidency. Her political instincts are decidedly sub-par and at times self-destructive. Though she might conceivably have made a political career for herself on her own abilities, she would never have gotten anywhere near the White House without having married Bill.

    The electorate senses that the status quo isn't working and isn't likely to improve. Hence the rise of Trump and Sanders in 2016, both unconventional candidates who at least talked about issues in terms that are "off-script" for American political discourse. Hillary Clinton is the definition of a wooden, cliche-repeating, political hack who seems not to have thought about any issue in fresh terms since her days at Wellesley.

    Hillary Clinton no longer represents the profile of the Democratic party. The Coalition of the Fringes needs the support of White Female Boomer Matrons, but that clearly can't be their future. Despite all references to hot sauce in her purse and being "in no ways tired," she is tired, and represents a background and identity that might have inspired significant number of voters in the 1990s, when, to seek the White House, she would have had to campaign against her husband. While that would have made for an interesting campaign, she wouldn't been a particularly viable candidate even then.

    Finally, there's the legacy of corruption. Every politician has a past, but Hillary and Bill have been at the game a long time, and there's plenty of unsavory history to be exposed, or re-exposed, and since she reacts horribly to criticism of any sort, that's only going to send her around the bend (again).

    The Democrats would be foolish to run Hillary in 2020, but if they do, that would be evidence enough that they aren't really in earnest about their Rainbow Coalition enthusiasms, and that the party effectively belongs to a couple of Geriatric White Boomers named Clinton.

    IIRC, Time Mag or Newsweek did a splashy cover story in the summer of ’92 with a great big pic of Bubba and Hildawg and Algore, and with a headline heralding “The Arrival of a New Generation of Leadership” or some such boilerplate. Must have appeared right after the DNC Convention.

    Somebody needs to track down this cover and start memeing. It’s is very memeable, especially when juxtaposed with Clintonian imagery from 2016 or 2018.

  76. @snorlax
    Spend $100mm on Trump's reelection and you, too, can receive a medal.
  77. I’m definitely not an Obama supporter. She won’t go away because her husband keeps giving interviews and speaking out against the current administration. Michelle and her husband had their time in the sun. It’s not uncommon for former Presidents and their spouses to write biographies, and public speaking. But so much is mentioned about them that you think they are still in the White House. My last memory of her was rolling her eyes when Melania and Trump gifted them on their last day. That was truly classless

  78. @Reg Cæsar
    One of Larry Auster's readers called her a "tree". That seems about right.

    One of Larry Auster’s readers called her a “tree”. That seems about right.

    With a lotta junk in the trunk.

  79. I am curious – in the history of the World was there ever a “feminist Icon” who was at all feminine?

    Seriously, Feminists could make a freight train take a dirt road. ( Monthly “Eyebeam” reference.)

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    I am curious – in the history of the World was there ever a “feminist Icon” who was at all feminine?

    Letty Cottin Pogrebin is in the normal range as far as her style. She's also long-married and has children. Her time in the sun was a while ago.


    Clare Boothe Luce was quite feminine, but I don't think post 1963 feminists took any interest in her; she was Catholic and against legal permissions for abortion.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YKe46Pz19TY/TuTkLzWna0I/AAAAAAAAAWQ/0vXWXWDjrAg/s1600/Gloria-Steinem-2.jpg
    , @Mr. Anon
    Gloria Stenem and Naomi Wolf come to mind. They are both pretty good looking.

    Then of course there is...................................

    ................................yeah, well, you have a point.
  80. Uh, while Barack Obama was in the Illinois State Senate, he was put in charge of the Human Services Committee which exercised control over the hospital industry. Michelle was promptly hired by a major Chicago hospital for a hefty salary in a newly created position as a “Community Outreach Coordinator.” After the Obamas went to D.C., the position was abolished.

    That’s the “Chicago way.”

    • Replies: @Forbes
    Actually, after Obama was elected to the Senate, Michelle's salary at the U of Chicago hospital system went to ~$300,000. She became a Director of TreeHouse Foods (NYSE: THS) after Obama's election to the Senate. The Obama's income in 2006 was close to $1 million.
  81. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    Jesus, could Hillary survive another campaign? Remember when her security detail had to chuck her in the van back in 2016? Then a few months ago she gave a speech in a muumuu looked like granny in the nursing home.

  82. @Reg Cæsar
    One of Larry Auster's readers called her a "tree". That seems about right.
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Auster used to refer to her, when FLOTUS, as "First Linebacker of the United States."

    More from his site on Michelle:

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016499.html
  83. See, the trannies can pass as women.

  84. @nebulafox
    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security, I'm pretty sure continued exposure of Hillary Clinton to the public eye is one of the ways the DNC can absolutely ensure 8 years of President Trump. Not unless they can somehow repackage her as anything other than the epitome of the mandarin class that got Trump into office in the first place. And they can't. And they know it.

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020. But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. Look how those ended. Both major political parties no longer have the competence to smartly win elections on their own anymore, even when the opposing party is facing serious problems. It's up to who ends up making themselves less noxious that given year. Our politics is more theatre and caricature than anything else these days.

    three words: endless mass immigration *

  85. It’s an awful thing, to be thought of as being an angry black woman, merely because you’re angry, black, and a woman.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    "It’s an awful thing, to be thought of as being an angry black woman, merely because you’re angry, black, and a woman."

    In the words of the great American philosopher, Meatloaf: Two out of three ain't bad.
  86. @Clyde
    She didn't like being First Lady her last few years. One favorite distraction was working out a lot. That's how I remember it. So is not pro basketball but she was a gym bunny of sorts, though not the cuddly kind. She really is non political these days. She wants to kick back and enjoy her wealth from writing books etc.
    Hussein O looked awful in the recent speeches - campaigning he did. Mooch gets stronger while Hussein fades away.

    ” writing ” lolz

  87. @eric
    Ever notice how often she insinuates Barak is not very manly? It's meant to be simple 'self-deprecation' from the Obama Inc. perspective, but it seems a bit more. Lots of hints about his dorky, white-boy demeanor. He's got a big intellectual appeal, and now wealth and riches, but I can see how she finds him wimpy.

    I believe it’s pretty much well established that Barack is in the closet.

  88. @Lugash
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017487.html

    Auster used to refer to her, when FLOTUS, as “First Linebacker of the United States.”

    More from his site on Michelle:

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016499.html

  89. @Stephen Paul Foster
    Bill and Hill have are setting off on a multiple-city "speaking" tour which can be interpreted in a couple of ways-- (1) just grubbing for more money, (2) getting ready to run in 202o.

    see: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-clintons-do-barnum-and-bailey.html

    (3) Both?

    (4) Running (1) to test the water for (2)?

  90. @FKA Max
    FYI,

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/donna-zuckerberg-on-how-the-alt-right-are-co-opting-classics/10474428

    Donna Zuckerberg has the option to debate the alt-right community but instead wants to go upstream to the universities and stuff classics education with propaganda. She believes that inoculating college students with PC classics GoodThink will assure that any meaningful debate on the internet of persuasive alt-right arguments buttressed by ancient philosophy is swamped by virtue signalling counter rants.

  91. @FKA Max
    FYI,

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/donna-zuckerberg-on-how-the-alt-right-are-co-opting-classics/10474428

    OT:

    But the original Spartacus had a black gladiator.

    Its an idea dating back to 1960.

  92. anon[488] • Disclaimer says:
    @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    From WSJ/Mark Penn.

    I see an attempt to get her out of the way sooner rather than later. Bush/Clinton are in the dustbin of history. Way, way too much baggage. Obama won in 2008 for reasons other than his own merits. Hillary was tired in 2008. She also lost to Trump.

    Getting her out of the way entails getting her out into the reality of the public.

    • Replies: @Forbes

    I see an attempt to get her out of the way sooner rather than later.
     
    Well, it's a thought.

    She has acolytes (60+ million) who mostly believe she rightfully won in 2016, and won't be denied another chance. To get Hillary out of the way requires an alternative preferable to her.

    Which of the Senate girls will be the alternative: Kamala, Liz, Kirsten, or Cory?

    As attributed to Yogi Berra, "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is."
  93. @Art Deco
    The sociologist Paul Hollandar took the view that people will seldom claim the status of victim if there isn't some benefit attached. Mooch was wasting time and effort on that because it was solicited by people in authority. The people in authority are otiose about investigating the effects of their contrivances on their supposed clients because they're really doing it for themselves. For Mooch to have rejected the proffered solicitude was certainly an option, but not one a green youngster uncertain of her true place in the world is most likely to take. Her mother and father were wage earners for whom any kind of higher education would have been foreign territory, much less Princeton; they weren't the best equipped pair to advise her in such matters.

    Look at her life. She goes to law school and is admitted to the bar. She only practices for about 3 years, then quits. Then she lands a vague position at city hall (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett). Then she lands another position in city government in the housing and property development apparat (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett), during which time her law license lapses. Nothing in her background indicates she would know a blessed thing about housing provision and maintenance. After a couple of years there, she lands one position and then another and then another in the diversity racket, paid $300,000 a year after 14 years of doing that work, even though dollars-to-doughnuts she was a zero-marginal-product employee.

    Good comment. I’m quite envious of 6-figure diversity sinecures. Great work if you can get it.

    Also, I’ll admit it — I had to look up “otiose”

  94. @Kylie
    My nickname for her was "The Golem".

    Completely wrong. Gordon Brown is The Golem.

  95. @Buzz Mohawk
    Michelle began her own illustrious career with her Princeton thesis on Being Black at Princeton, so it is natural that she will continue her groundbreaking work with a book about Being Black in the White House While Being Married to a Man Who Was Being Black While President.

    And Michelle’s book will be bought by people who want to display it (vanity-signal) on their bookshelf, to go with several others that haven’t been read either…

    • Replies: @peterike

    And Michelle’s book will be bought by people who want to display it (vanity-signal) on their bookshelf,

     

    Every Jewish woman in New York City will do exactly that.
  96. Off topic. But it’s about wimminz, anyway. Has anyone read Jim Goad’s latest, “White Women Gonna White“? Are we even allowed to mention another column writer here on Steve’s blog? Don’ wanna break no rules…

    Anyways, something interesting is happening as a result of the fact that wimminz are apparently still voting Republican all too much and certain parties jes’ don’ like it.

  97. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    Yes

  98. @Harry Baldwin
    (*George W. Bush* is getting rehabed these days)

    Only on the left, where, as an astute iSteve commenter put it awhile back, they'll always use a dead virus to kill a live virus.

    I despise the execrable George W. Bush and think most on the right do as well.

    I despise the execrable George W. Bush and think most on the right do as well.

    I try to make it a rule not to have strong feelings about politicians. Sooner or later they are bound to disappoint–or worse. To care about them, you’d have to give a shit–it’s unlikely they give a shit about you. And those who win elections, we are stuck with for years at a time.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I try to make it a rule not to have strong feelings about politicians.

    I try to as well. Unfortunately, a person as repellent as George W. Bush makes the attempt futile.
  99. @black sea
    Hillary Clinton's favorability rating is lower now than it was during the 2016 election. She's currently hovering around 36%, and this after having lost to a candidate who is himself despised by a large chunk of the electorate.

    Hillary Clinton does not have political chops, as was made evident in her two bids to win the presidency. Her political instincts are decidedly sub-par and at times self-destructive. Though she might conceivably have made a political career for herself on her own abilities, she would never have gotten anywhere near the White House without having married Bill.

    The electorate senses that the status quo isn't working and isn't likely to improve. Hence the rise of Trump and Sanders in 2016, both unconventional candidates who at least talked about issues in terms that are "off-script" for American political discourse. Hillary Clinton is the definition of a wooden, cliche-repeating, political hack who seems not to have thought about any issue in fresh terms since her days at Wellesley.

    Hillary Clinton no longer represents the profile of the Democratic party. The Coalition of the Fringes needs the support of White Female Boomer Matrons, but that clearly can't be their future. Despite all references to hot sauce in her purse and being "in no ways tired," she is tired, and represents a background and identity that might have inspired significant number of voters in the 1990s, when, to seek the White House, she would have had to campaign against her husband. While that would have made for an interesting campaign, she wouldn't been a particularly viable candidate even then.

    Finally, there's the legacy of corruption. Every politician has a past, but Hillary and Bill have been at the game a long time, and there's plenty of unsavory history to be exposed, or re-exposed, and since she reacts horribly to criticism of any sort, that's only going to send her around the bend (again).

    The Democrats would be foolish to run Hillary in 2020, but if they do, that would be evidence enough that they aren't really in earnest about their Rainbow Coalition enthusiasms, and that the party effectively belongs to a couple of Geriatric White Boomers named Clinton.

    Read Penn’s article.

  100. @anon
    From WSJ/Mark Penn.

    I see an attempt to get her out of the way sooner rather than later. Bush/Clinton are in the dustbin of history. Way, way too much baggage. Obama won in 2008 for reasons other than his own merits. Hillary was tired in 2008. She also lost to Trump.

    Getting her out of the way entails getting her out into the reality of the public.

    I see an attempt to get her out of the way sooner rather than later.

    Well, it’s a thought.

    She has acolytes (60+ million) who mostly believe she rightfully won in 2016, and won’t be denied another chance. To get Hillary out of the way requires an alternative preferable to her.

    Which of the Senate girls will be the alternative: Kamala, Liz, Kirsten, or Cory?

    As attributed to Yogi Berra, “In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.”

    • Replies: @Redman
    Booker is not gay. I know that’s the rumor de jour, but it’s highly unlikely.

    I was good friends with someone in his first campaign for Newark mayor. They had more than a professional relationship. And she is white. Booker wouldn’t allow anyone to know they were dating for the obvious impact it would have on his campaign against Sharpe James, who was always labeling Booker as a fake black.

    Like Obama, I sense he prefers white women. But unlike Obama, he hasn’t married a black woman for political reasons. Yet.

    I think the gay rumors hurt him less. Since black women voters won’t accept that he only dates Beckys. Obama with a white wife would just be Harold Ford. And where is Ford these days?
  101. @Bugg
    All the MSM polishing and buffing will n0t change that Michelle Obama is an angry inner city black lady who rode affirmative action literally as far as you can go. Obama was way better packaged and hid the ghetto politician.

    Reminds me of Avon's sister from "The Wire"; always accepting the good stuff from the family business, but not really wanting to know what that really is all about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC06zGTWzlY

    The ‘behind the scene’ woman who let you know, in no uncertain terms, when you weren’t getting the job done.

  102. @newrouter
    "But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. "

    the "horse with no name"?

    So, as long as the opposing party doesn’t run a candidate from Massachusetts?…

  103. @Thucydides
    Uh, while Barack Obama was in the Illinois State Senate, he was put in charge of the Human Services Committee which exercised control over the hospital industry. Michelle was promptly hired by a major Chicago hospital for a hefty salary in a newly created position as a "Community Outreach Coordinator." After the Obamas went to D.C., the position was abolished.


    That's the "Chicago way."

    Actually, after Obama was elected to the Senate, Michelle’s salary at the U of Chicago hospital system went to ~$300,000. She became a Director of TreeHouse Foods (NYSE: THS) after Obama’s election to the Senate. The Obama’s income in 2006 was close to $1 million.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    The Obama’s income in 2006 was close to $1 million.
     
    Still, they scraped by as best they could.
  104. @Prester John
    "Hope springs eternal" and etc. However, she will be two years older by then--73 by my reckoning--all the while her party is being slowly taken over by the Ocasio-Lopez/Kamela Harris crowd. She will have to 1.) lay off the chardonnay and 2.) craft an image of being someone who is a lot more than the empty pants suit that so many in her own party perceive her to be. Neither scenario is likely. Then again, a lot of "experts" wrote off Nixon after '62 too so...we'll see.

    It’s also post-#MeToo. Juanita Broaddrick would make a delicious VP pick for the other side; if she’s too old, then Kathleen Willey.

  105. @Harry Baldwin
    I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won’t win.

    I actually voted for Romney in the 2012 Republican primary, when he was still pretending to be concerned about illegal immigration, a stance he dropped that as soon as he won the nomination. When, in the debates, Obama challenged him about his support for "self deportation," Romney stood there looking as dumbstruck as Dan Quayle. If he had responded forcefully it would have made a difference, but he didn't actually believe in policies he had campaigned on.

    I get so tired of Hannity talking about what a fine man Mitt Romney is. Maybe to his immediate family that is so. As a politician, he is just another duplicitous bastard like John McCain.

    Yes, Romney is a slippery opportunist. I never liked him.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @JMcG
    I met him at an event before he declared his candidacy for the presidency the first time. No television there but plenty of photographers. He wore more makeup than the 400+ girls in my high school freshman class added up. I figured then that he’d never be president. He’s one of those guys with soft hands who specializes in having his henchmen punch down.
  106. An ironic thing about Michelle Obama, feminist icon, is that she absolutely hated it when people encouraged her to play basketball, like her older brother played at Princeton. She’s a rather feminine lady who doesn’t much like sports, and doesn’t at all like being reminded that she is strong and tall.

    That may be so, but she certainly likes lifting weights. Those shoulder muscles are the result of lifting.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    Are curvaceous African butts the result of heavy squats and dead lifts?
  107. @Dan Smith
    Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf. Said it was racist. Of course, she was wearing red, just like a Target employee, and she is, as Steve notes, six feet tall. But when you and your husband are the leaders of the let's-find-racism-in-all-aspects-of life movement, you can't be bothered by details like that.

    Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf.

    I’ll take Shit That Didn’t Happen for $200, Alex.

  108. @Anon
    Snitty review of Robert Plomin's Blueprint at The Spectator from Turkheimer acolyte Kathryn Paige Harden:

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/heredity-is-only-half-the-story/

    I'm not even sure what her complaint is. It seems to mostly be that Plomin didn't write the book that Harden would have written. He didn't wring his hands and mention eugenics and race and does-free-will-exist philosophy.

    For my part, I like his just-the-science approach.

    Harden also seems to want him to have disclaimers and qualifications for everything he says. But he says up front that he is not going to do that for the sake of making the book readable. The endnotes have all kinds of that stuff anyway. In fact, I think that the main contribution of the book's editor was to convince him to hide the boffin stuff in the notes.

    The left seems to be operating from a rent-seeking standpoint. They want everything that their opponents write to have to include mention of the left's positions, however tendentious and flakey. It reminds me of Canadian indigenous land acknowledgements that are becoming necessary to insert in any public communications.

    I love the damned if you do, damned if you don’t gotcha game:

    He also avoids any mention of race, the typical flashpoint of controversy for genetics books. Both omissions will strike many readers — particularly in America, where racial divisions loom large — as irresponsible.

    I think the main purpose of reviews like that is just to make sure that the goodthinkers know the book is heretical.

    This false equivalency is also quite fun:

    Plomin makes sense of his personal struggles to maintain body weight by noting that his polygenic score for body weight is above average, just as I make sense of the fact that I’m jealous and stubborn by noting that I’m a Taurus.

    I think that makes clear how seriously Kathryn Paige Harden should be taken once she puts her goodthinker hat on. She is only in her mid 30s so there should be lots of time to chuckle at the things she says now with the benefit of the hindsight offered by future genetic studies: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/fashion/weddings/20harden.html

    P.S. Thanks for the link. Maybe you should add a comment to James Thompson’s review of the book today? Also, does the Spectator not allow even READING comments for non-subscribers?

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    I find this in the review:

    Plomin scarcely mentions the titular metaphor of DNA as a blueprint, which is just as well. (A blueprint is a technical drawing where each jot has a direct relationship with a single component of the finished product — and so functions nothing like DNA.) Instead, he returns again and again to DNA as a ‘fortune-teller’ that is ‘100 per cent reliable’ and that can ‘predict your future from birth’.
     
    It seems inconceivable to me that Plomin made such an assertion with the generality here claimed.

    Nobody knows better than Plomin that if a trait is 50% heritable, then the other 50% is, by definition, comprised of factors other than genes. That is, DNA cannot be "100% reliable" as a predictor.

    I wonder what he could possibly have written which she misrepresented like this.

    I would like to see the phrases she pulled out here to be put back in their proper context. I can't imagine doing so would support her interpretation.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    That wedding link is very David Brooks, isn't it?
  109. @Mr. Anon

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”.
     
    Clearly, loyalty to Israel is the highest form of American patriotism.

    Clearly, loyalty to Israel is the highest form of American patriotism.

    Shipping our Jews to Israel would help us out politically, but that would ruin Israel. It would mean the return of the Labor Party, which is wrong about everything.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'Shipping our Jews to Israel would help us out politically, but that would ruin Israel. '

    ? Wouldn't this sentence work better if 'but' was replaced with 'and'?

    Anyway, no Jewish population with an authentic choice has ever emigrated to Israel.
    , @anon
    Helps America and ruins Israel - sounds like a win win.
  110. @Henry's Cat
    Didn't Michelle just reveal that the daughters were conceived via IVF? I don't know if that means she had something wrong with her eggs, or whether Obama was low on something.
    • Replies: @Forbes
    Having had a miscarriage doesn't require resorting to IVF. And having already been pregnant contradicts the question of difficulty conceiving. Michelle waited until well into her 30s to have children--the biological clock is real.

    The ticking of women's biological clock has been part of the public conversation for two generations--so it's got nothing to do with what women do or don't talk about to one another.

    This is one reason our so-called elites are detestable. They behave as if their ignorance of natural occurrences, e.g. miscarriages, is the fault of the wider culture (not sufficiently talking about it), and therefore they must "raise the issue" with the public by speaking out, share their anguished experience, and be heralded by media as heroic for sharing their pain. It's a dreary soap opera.
  111. @Anon
    Snitty review of Robert Plomin's Blueprint at The Spectator from Turkheimer acolyte Kathryn Paige Harden:

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/heredity-is-only-half-the-story/

    I'm not even sure what her complaint is. It seems to mostly be that Plomin didn't write the book that Harden would have written. He didn't wring his hands and mention eugenics and race and does-free-will-exist philosophy.

    For my part, I like his just-the-science approach.

    Harden also seems to want him to have disclaimers and qualifications for everything he says. But he says up front that he is not going to do that for the sake of making the book readable. The endnotes have all kinds of that stuff anyway. In fact, I think that the main contribution of the book's editor was to convince him to hide the boffin stuff in the notes.

    The left seems to be operating from a rent-seeking standpoint. They want everything that their opponents write to have to include mention of the left's positions, however tendentious and flakey. It reminds me of Canadian indigenous land acknowledgements that are becoming necessary to insert in any public communications.

    The left seems to be operating from a rent-seeking standpoint.

    That’s the whole point of their existence. That’s all it ever was.

  112. @FKA Max
    FYI,

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/donna-zuckerberg-on-how-the-alt-right-are-co-opting-classics/10474428

    GOOD

    For too long white men have dominated the classics

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    TD, Hmmmm, classical literature and classical art and classical music brought o you by...white men.
    , @duncsbaby
    Yep, you're right, take away Homer, Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripedes, Plato, Aristotle, Herodotus, Thucydides, Plutarch, Virgil, Ovid, Suetonius, & Marcus Aurelius & instead just study Sappho. That will show those white guys.
  113. @donut
    I don't think that's serious just snark . She would make a good field hand though .

    “She [Michelle Obama] would make a good field hand though.”

    Lol! She’s got the bulk, no doubt, but she’s got an attitude to match. “Sullen wench” comes to mind. It’d be easier to pick your own cotton. Safer, too.

    • Replies: @donut
    That's why the overseers had whips .
  114. @Mr. Anon

    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?
     
    Not going to happen. The last person who ran a serious campaign for President after having lost a general election was Richard Nixon, and that was 50 years ago. There seems to be a consensus now - you get one chance to run for President as a major party candidate - that's it. Donors won't commit money to a proven loser. Certainly big Democratic Party donors are smarter than that. I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won't win.

    Mr. Anon:

    “but he [Romney] won’t run”

    I beg to differ. Once elected as Senator, Romney will pose as the anti-Trumpster extraordinaire (i.e., John McCain on steroids).

    He will only be replaying the petulant spoilsport role pioneered by his father George Romney.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    He will only be replaying the petulant spoilsport role pioneered by his father George Romney.
     
    Willard Mitt Romney, anchor baby.
    , @Art Deco
    Come again? His father aborted a brief run for the White House in 1968 when polls in New Hampshire showed him being crushed. He then took a cabinet post from Richard Nixon the following year. He retired from politics when Nixon asked for the resignation of his entire cabinet at the beginning of 1973 and sent back letters of acceptance to Romney and several others.
  115. @Dan Smith
    Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf. Said it was racist. Of course, she was wearing red, just like a Target employee, and she is, as Steve notes, six feet tall. But when you and your husband are the leaders of the let's-find-racism-in-all-aspects-of life movement, you can't be bothered by details like that.

    She actually used that anecdote on two different shows with two different contexts. One was with, as you mentioned, the “racist” angle that so offended Michelle. The next one she was laughing/smiling while telling the story and was actually happy to help.

    • Replies: @black sea
    Her handlers realized that Version A of the Target story was alienating the shelf-stocking segment of the voting public, so they went with Version B.
  116. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    who else do they have who has even half a chance @ beating Trumpster?

  117. @Anonymous
    She's like Tina Turner, a Negress capable of giving birth to children but also capable of beating the hell out of most sad excuses of soyboy white males today in a fistfight, at least in her prime. Not rare among black females. Against the average white current Army infantryman she'd be dead, of course, but against Kurt Cobain she'd have probably KO'd him in the second or third round of a proper boxing match.

    From what I've seen (I have never 'been with' a black woman but I've seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell and either has to shave a lot or has had electrolysis. Probably has a pungent aroma as well. But still, a biological XX chromosome female.

    From what I’ve seen (I have never ‘been with’ a black woman but I’ve seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell

    Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You’re not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant.

    • Replies: @San Franciscan non-monk
    @Tyrion you're exactly right. At the risk of taking this discussion in a prurient direction, I've had my share of dating with African American and African women, and let me give some advice to the single men in this forum. African woman are awesome. Depending on the region of Africa or clan or tribe they are from, they can be completely hairless on the legs and underams and so forth. As in, they never, even once in their life, have to shave their legs. Combined with their silky-textured skin (yes that's also a thing), they are a dream in bed. God it's amazing. Whether or not for whatever reason you ever plan to marry a woman of sub-saharan woman you owe it to yourself to have a one as a girlfriend for a while. Lighter skinned AA women don't make the cut, they need to be almost totally or totally African.

    The hardest part is hiding your amazement and delight. Be a man and act like you've been there before you know.
    , @3g4me
    @118 Tyrion 2: "Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You’re not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant."

    Based on your exhaustive personal study, perhaps? My good friend, an electrologist, has a surprising number of black customers, as well as an unsurprising number of subcontinental customers. Dark and hairy appears to be more accurate than Dark and Lovely.
    , @üeljang
    Not quite. Black people (in the sense of Sub-Saharan Africans) are naturally more lacking in body hair than East Asians. Native Americans, too.

    Oceanians are the most hirsute of the non-Caucasoid races, followed by East Asians. Pure-blooded Blacks and Native Americans are almost all entirely glabrous.
  118. @Tiny Duck
    Do you actually believe this?


    Inclusivity and diversity are NOT being anti white except in your hateful racist mind

    Ohs Tinys…..!

    Present statement contradicted by every previous post!

    Lendsporg

  119. This looks like it will be the whitest neighborhood in Chicago:

    • Replies: @Sammler
    ‘Cause you’ll have to swim to work every day?
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Elysium
  120. @Dan Hayes
    Mr. Anon:

    "but he [Romney] won't run"
     
    I beg to differ. Once elected as Senator, Romney will pose as the anti-Trumpster extraordinaire (i.e., John McCain on steroids).

    He will only be replaying the petulant spoilsport role pioneered by his father George Romney.

    He will only be replaying the petulant spoilsport role pioneered by his father George Romney.

    Willard Mitt Romney, anchor baby.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Willard Mitt Romney, anchor baby.

    He has three older siblings. His mother and all four grandparents were born in the states.
  121. Omigod!! Massive Michelle Media blitz! Michelle is everywhere on TV today (Monday). Is there a reason why Her Book is so important and mus be a big success?

  122. Drudge is stirring the pot nicely:

    Michelle Obama is kicking off the publicity tour for her new book, “Becoming,” but her first media appearance got off to a rocky start.

    Despite being heavily edited so she spoke for little more than 45 seconds, Michelle Obama sounded more like a millennial girl chatting on Snapchat than a former First Lady. Throughout her responses to ABC’s Robin Roberts, she repeatedly said “like,” “you know?” “um,” and even, “dude.”

    “Barack Obama has always walked like Barack Obama, like, he has got all the time in the world,” she said of their first meeting. “He had that stride. I was, like, ‘Dude, you’re cute,’ but in my mind, I was, like –“

    Overall Obama said “you know” 10 times, “like” 9 times, and “um,” “yeah,” and “what?” another five times.

    https://news.grabien.com/story-michelle-o-you-know-dude-you-know

    I can’t find any mention of the book’s ghostwriter.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Sounds like the famous interview Caroline Kennedy gave when she was planning a run for a New York senate seat in which she said "you know" 142 times.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4015918/Caroline-Kennedy-repeats-you-know-142-times-in-interview.html

  123. @Art Deco
    The sociologist Paul Hollandar took the view that people will seldom claim the status of victim if there isn't some benefit attached. Mooch was wasting time and effort on that because it was solicited by people in authority. The people in authority are otiose about investigating the effects of their contrivances on their supposed clients because they're really doing it for themselves. For Mooch to have rejected the proffered solicitude was certainly an option, but not one a green youngster uncertain of her true place in the world is most likely to take. Her mother and father were wage earners for whom any kind of higher education would have been foreign territory, much less Princeton; they weren't the best equipped pair to advise her in such matters.

    Look at her life. She goes to law school and is admitted to the bar. She only practices for about 3 years, then quits. Then she lands a vague position at city hall (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett). Then she lands another position in city government in the housing and property development apparat (presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett), during which time her law license lapses. Nothing in her background indicates she would know a blessed thing about housing provision and maintenance. After a couple of years there, she lands one position and then another and then another in the diversity racket, paid $300,000 a year after 14 years of doing that work, even though dollars-to-doughnuts she was a zero-marginal-product employee.

    Zero would put her in the ninetieth percentile in that line of work.

  124. @Bugg
    Does this weighty tome discuss why the brilliant and talented Michelle Obama voluntarily surrendered her Illinois law license?

    She allowed it to lapse in 1993 because she wasn’t using it. BO’s lapsed in 2002 for the same reason.

  125. @res
    I love the damned if you do, damned if you don't gotcha game:

    He also avoids any mention of race, the typical flashpoint of controversy for genetics books. Both omissions will strike many readers — particularly in America, where racial divisions loom large — as irresponsible.
     
    I think the main purpose of reviews like that is just to make sure that the goodthinkers know the book is heretical.

    This false equivalency is also quite fun:

    Plomin makes sense of his personal struggles to maintain body weight by noting that his polygenic score for body weight is above average, just as I make sense of the fact that I’m jealous and stubborn by noting that I’m a Taurus.

     

    I think that makes clear how seriously Kathryn Paige Harden should be taken once she puts her goodthinker hat on. She is only in her mid 30s so there should be lots of time to chuckle at the things she says now with the benefit of the hindsight offered by future genetic studies: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/fashion/weddings/20harden.html

    P.S. Thanks for the link. Maybe you should add a comment to James Thompson's review of the book today? Also, does the Spectator not allow even READING comments for non-subscribers?

    I find this in the review:

    Plomin scarcely mentions the titular metaphor of DNA as a blueprint, which is just as well. (A blueprint is a technical drawing where each jot has a direct relationship with a single component of the finished product — and so functions nothing like DNA.) Instead, he returns again and again to DNA as a ‘fortune-teller’ that is ‘100 per cent reliable’ and that can ‘predict your future from birth’.

    It seems inconceivable to me that Plomin made such an assertion with the generality here claimed.

    Nobody knows better than Plomin that if a trait is 50% heritable, then the other 50% is, by definition, comprised of factors other than genes. That is, DNA cannot be “100% reliable” as a predictor.

    I wonder what he could possibly have written which she misrepresented like this.

    I would like to see the phrases she pulled out here to be put back in their proper context. I can’t imagine doing so would support her interpretation.

    • Agree: res
  126. @Bugg
    All the MSM polishing and buffing will n0t change that Michelle Obama is an angry inner city black lady who rode affirmative action literally as far as you can go. Obama was way better packaged and hid the ghetto politician.

    Reminds me of Avon's sister from "The Wire"; always accepting the good stuff from the family business, but not really wanting to know what that really is all about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC06zGTWzlY

    Michelle Obama is an angry inner city black lady who rode affirmative action literally as far as you can go.

    She came from an intact wage-earner family and her father was a skilled worker. “Cold and snippy” I’d wager is closer to the mark than ‘angry’. She did benefit handsomely from patronage. Unlike Houston Baker, she didn’t have to give lectures to undergraduates, write inane blather for academic journals, or act like a loon in order to get the swag.

  127. @Bugg
    As Derb might say - blackety black blackety black black black. Hard to see there being a broad market it for that, but worked for her husband.

    Obama didn’t run as Ta-Nehisi Coates. His state legislative races were non-competitive and his federal campaigns didn’t turn much on explicit racial appeals. Bobby Rush, who is black in a straightforward way BO isn’t, cleaned his clock.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    I seem to recall his first Fed Senate election was eased by the inexplicable un-sealing of his opponents divorce papers.
  128. @Reg Cæsar
    This looks like it will be the whitest neighborhood in Chicago:


    https://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/67bd2fb3-5818-4dcb-852f-09c987e46413-original.jpeg

    ‘Cause you’ll have to swim to work every day?

    • Replies: @donut
    Sammler = Gatherer , right ?
  129. @nebulafox
    Ironically, had Michelle Obama decided to seriously pursue politics, she would make a better bet than Hillary Clinton for the Democrats in the long-run as a candidate.

    Of course, "a better candidate than Hillary Clinton" isn't that high of a bar, but think about it. With the tendency of Americans to view most previous Presidents more favorably with hindsight (*George W. Bush* is getting rehabed these days) combined with her husband's ability to control the Coalition of the Fringes (an ability that only he has truly been proven to have), provided that she opts for a 2008-esque strategy of hammering GOP donor-class boosting politics rather than opting for the full on cultural leftism of Obama's second term, she could really stand a chance.

    Doesn't really matter, though, she doesn't seem at all interested. That, and again, she doesn't have the political background needed. Trump was only able to circumvent that barrier by virtue of being a billionaire and decades-long celebrity.

    Running for President is much harder work than Michelle has any interest in doing.

    • Replies: @Marat
    That sounds about right, afterall, she has pretty much declared as much consistently for 15 years. What she may miss is the lifestyle of celebrity and respect.

    No matter, the Party benefits from the ceremony of begging her to run - it makes Democrats seem less insane and they can borrow some "moderate cred" from the little drama. Plus, having Michelle babble the Inspirational Speak, as opposed to Kamala shouting the Inspirational Shriek would confer pure gravy.

  130. @theMann
    I am curious - in the history of the World was there ever a "feminist Icon" who was at all feminine?

    Seriously, Feminists could make a freight train take a dirt road. ( Monthly "Eyebeam" reference.)

    I am curious – in the history of the World was there ever a “feminist Icon” who was at all feminine?

    Letty Cottin Pogrebin is in the normal range as far as her style. She’s also long-married and has children. Her time in the sun was a while ago.

    Clare Boothe Luce was quite feminine, but I don’t think post 1963 feminists took any interest in her; she was Catholic and against legal permissions for abortion.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    Yeah, pull the other one, Art.
    https://d18t6orusej5w.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Founding-Mother-Letty-Cottin-Pogrebin1.jpg
  131. @Dan Hayes
    Mr. Anon:

    "but he [Romney] won't run"
     
    I beg to differ. Once elected as Senator, Romney will pose as the anti-Trumpster extraordinaire (i.e., John McCain on steroids).

    He will only be replaying the petulant spoilsport role pioneered by his father George Romney.

    Come again? His father aborted a brief run for the White House in 1968 when polls in New Hampshire showed him being crushed. He then took a cabinet post from Richard Nixon the following year. He retired from politics when Nixon asked for the resignation of his entire cabinet at the beginning of 1973 and sent back letters of acceptance to Romney and several others.

    • Replies: @Forbes

    when polls in New Hampshire showed him being crushed
     
    After Romney made some infelicitous comments (August '67) about being brainwashed during a trip of governors to Vietnam. After the comments aired, his poll numbers nosedived and really never recovered.
  132. @Reg Cæsar

    He will only be replaying the petulant spoilsport role pioneered by his father George Romney.
     
    Willard Mitt Romney, anchor baby.

    Willard Mitt Romney, anchor baby.

    He has three older siblings. His mother and all four grandparents were born in the states.

  133. @Forbes
    And Michelle's book will be bought by people who want to display it (vanity-signal) on their bookshelf, to go with several others that haven't been read either...

    And Michelle’s book will be bought by people who want to display it (vanity-signal) on their bookshelf,

    Every Jewish woman in New York City will do exactly that.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Liberals. The Hasidim and modern orthodox do not think highly of the 0bamas, and they are a large percentage of Jews in NYC.
  134. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    “Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics.”

    But they can hijack Norman Rockwell, right? And for blatantly racist purposes, too? Does the upperclass Left have any bit of self-awareness or are they all self-interested virtue-signalling sociopaths?

    “Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.”

    I predicted this last year. From the moment she started this Russian conspiracy peddling, I knew she would; that was the purpose of the Russian nonsense – to delegitimatize president Trump by spreading lies about the guy so she could run again under the banner of “I wuz cheated…it’s a conspiracy!”. She’s even trying to be “cool and edgy” now with her “you all look the same” comment. Hillary is a dangerous, amoral, deluded, and tone-deaf politician – probably the worst I’ve ever seen in modern politics, including McCain. What an awful human being.

    “Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?”

    If she did, I would never accept her as president, certainly not after her fabrication of the Steele Dossier on top of everything else like threatening to shoot down Russian planes in Syria. She is fundamentally unacceptable, and I would encourage Mr. Trump to refuse to concede to her even if he lost. I mean, what kind of person has a nervous breakdown and turns to God as if the world just ended just because they didn’t become president of the country? Huh? She has had more in life than 99.9% of people and never even had to work for it in the first place. Normal people would be grateful just for the opportunity. Awful sense of entitlement. Every job she had was more or less given to her, same with her wealth. Imagine if you or I could give $600,000 speeches to Goldman Sachs on a whim.

    “I beg to differ. Once elected as Senator, Romney will pose as the anti-Trumpster extraordinaire (i.e., John McCain on steroids).”

    How did that work out for him in 2016? The guy became despised like all the rest. No thanks to Mr. Controlled Opposition. I suspect he’ll try, as tone-deaf as he is, but it will only make Trump look good in comparison. He’d be better served by trying to be the man’s ally…but when has Romney ever made a wise choice in politics?

  135. “She allowed it to lapse in 1993 because she wasn’t using it. BO’s lapsed in 2002 for the same reason.”

    Was there anything preventing her from using it? BO’s lapsed because he held an Illinois state office at the time, so that’s not exactly a fair comparison.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    No, his license lapsed about 5 years after he was elected to the legislature. He was still of counsel at is law firm. I doubt Illinois law debars legislators from practicing law. In most states, a state legislator is presumed to be part time and practicing law is the primary living for a great many legislators.
    , @Art Deco
    Was there anything preventing her from using it?

    Not as far as I'm aware. She had jobs in the city government from 1991 to about 1994 or 1995, presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett. I think she was a BigLaw associate for a few years. I think most BigLaw associates wash out. Lots of attorneys leave the profession after a few years. As we speak, the ratio of working professionals to annual degree awards is lower in law than it is in just about any occupation you could name except for the clergy. Schools are producing half-again as many juris doctors as could reasonably be expected to build careers in law. If I'm remembering the period literature (articles in The American Lawyer) there was a glut in the business around 1990 with a large mass of associates being laid off. I used to ride to work with a young mother who lost her job in just such a shakeout at that time. (The firm was one of the one's in the pedigree of Nixon Peabody).

  136. @Anonymous
    Phasing out Social(ist) (in)Security would be possible by keeping the present arrangement in force for everyone over a certain young age, like 40, and transitioning younger ones into a different system: one that was mandatory but involved paying into a privately administered retirement fund. There would be a huge shortfall over a number of years until all the Social Security enrolees finally died off, since new people would not be paying in (the Social Security system was in fact a Ponzi scheme from the word go that worked so long as the new entrants exceeded the doieoffs each year by a certain amount), but this could be financed by general government debt or monetized by printing cash so long as the amounts were limited to a predictable and finite amount, meaning that it would be a tax on all outstanding currency, but a finite one-an inconvenience rather than a Weimar wheelbarrow hyperinflation.

    However for this to work we would need a stable government run by a trustworthy organization over the 50+ year transition. We do not and will not have that. I'm convinced that the United States Government will be as financially extant as the Confederate States is now, before 2100 for certain, and maybe before 2050. So the whole thing is moot if you expect to retire between 2050 and 2100.

    Phasing out Social(ist) (in)Security would be possible by keeping the present arrangement in force for everyone over a certain young age, like 40, and transitioning younger ones into a different system: one that was mandatory but involved paying into a privately administered retirement fund.

    The gov’t is not obligated to pay out one dime of Social Security. The SCOTUS ruled back in the thirties that people could not be forced into a contract. However, the legislature may levy taxes and may spend money. Our SS is collected today and disbursed today. There is no fund anywhere. No accounts or any such thing. Social Security can be repealed at any time. I don’t think it will be, but it cannot be replaced with any kind of contractual agreement like you could have with private company selling bonds or mutual funds etc.

  137. @FKA Max
    FYI,

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/donna-zuckerberg-on-how-the-alt-right-are-co-opting-classics/10474428

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics

    that’s rich, coming from a jew

    is this some kind of a game they play where they accuse you of everything they do?

    next she’ll claim the Alt-Right is spying on you

    • Replies: @res

    is this some kind of a game they play where they accuse you of everything they do?
     
    Pretty much. The amount of projection is astonishing.
  138. @MikeatMikedotMike
    https://saintandrewstwinflame.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/1fb21-unnamed.jpg?w=659&h=498

    Exactly, and soon to be a rather large Aunt Jemima.

  139. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc”.

    makes perfect sense

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  140. @Autochthon
    Not "was" – "were," damn it.

    Ugh.

    Agree. It amazes me how the subjunctive mood is butchered in so many posts on so many sites.

  141. Dusted: Stan (((Lieber))) Lee, 1922-2018.

  142. @Clyde

    hey! what’s wrong with sasquatch?
     
    Bigfoot is a good Moochelle nickname. She must wear the equivalent of size 14 men's.

    The squatch part sounds so dirty.

  143. @Hans
    Poor Joan Rivers couldn't keep her mouth shut about the Obamas' "orientation" and promptly did not survive a minor surgical procedure.

    This video includes Joan's fatal mistake:
    Michelle Obama Caught Fixing Her Package - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUS5cmkp_AI

    “it’s okay, he doesn’t know it…”

    Miss Joan a lot.

  144. @Tyrion 2

    From what I’ve seen (I have never ‘been with’ a black woman but I’ve seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell
     
    Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You're not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant.

    @Tyrion you’re exactly right. At the risk of taking this discussion in a prurient direction, I’ve had my share of dating with African American and African women, and let me give some advice to the single men in this forum. African woman are awesome. Depending on the region of Africa or clan or tribe they are from, they can be completely hairless on the legs and underams and so forth. As in, they never, even once in their life, have to shave their legs. Combined with their silky-textured skin (yes that’s also a thing), they are a dream in bed. God it’s amazing. Whether or not for whatever reason you ever plan to marry a woman of sub-saharan woman you owe it to yourself to have a one as a girlfriend for a while. Lighter skinned AA women don’t make the cut, they need to be almost totally or totally African.

    The hardest part is hiding your amazement and delight. Be a man and act like you’ve been there before you know.

    • Replies: @Federalist

    African woman are awesome...they can be completely hairless on the legs and underams and so forth.
     
    I'll take your word for it. I don't want to get close enough to see for myself.
  145. @MikeatMikedotMike
    https://saintandrewstwinflame.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/1fb21-unnamed.jpg?w=659&h=498

    That dress really brings out her traps.

    • Agree: donut
  146. @anon
    "She allowed it to lapse in 1993 because she wasn’t using it. BO’s lapsed in 2002 for the same reason."

    Was there anything preventing her from using it? BO's lapsed because he held an Illinois state office at the time, so that's not exactly a fair comparison.

    No, his license lapsed about 5 years after he was elected to the legislature. He was still of counsel at is law firm. I doubt Illinois law debars legislators from practicing law. In most states, a state legislator is presumed to be part time and practicing law is the primary living for a great many legislators.

  147. A lot of the videos on YouTube about home décor, arts and crafts, make up application, fashion, etc. are done by African American women. Many of them seem to have very girly interests.

  148. @anon
    "She allowed it to lapse in 1993 because she wasn’t using it. BO’s lapsed in 2002 for the same reason."

    Was there anything preventing her from using it? BO's lapsed because he held an Illinois state office at the time, so that's not exactly a fair comparison.

    Was there anything preventing her from using it?

    Not as far as I’m aware. She had jobs in the city government from 1991 to about 1994 or 1995, presumably arranged by Valerie Jarrett. I think she was a BigLaw associate for a few years. I think most BigLaw associates wash out. Lots of attorneys leave the profession after a few years. As we speak, the ratio of working professionals to annual degree awards is lower in law than it is in just about any occupation you could name except for the clergy. Schools are producing half-again as many juris doctors as could reasonably be expected to build careers in law. If I’m remembering the period literature (articles in The American Lawyer) there was a glut in the business around 1990 with a large mass of associates being laid off. I used to ride to work with a young mother who lost her job in just such a shakeout at that time. (The firm was one of the one’s in the pedigree of Nixon Peabody).

  149. @theMann
    I am curious - in the history of the World was there ever a "feminist Icon" who was at all feminine?

    Seriously, Feminists could make a freight train take a dirt road. ( Monthly "Eyebeam" reference.)

  150. @Reg Cæsar
    This looks like it will be the whitest neighborhood in Chicago:


    https://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/67bd2fb3-5818-4dcb-852f-09c987e46413-original.jpeg

    Elysium

  151. Speaking of all this, and nothing. In the “Where’s the white outrage?” department, the big new Broadway production of “King Kong” features the new Ann Darrow (played originally by Fay Wray). I guess Blackwashing just isn’t a “thing,” is it?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Reminds me of an old joke: "Maxine Waters has been mad ever since King Kong tossed her back over the wall."
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Speaking of all this, and nothing. In the “Where’s the white outrage?” department, the big new Broadway production of “King Kong” features the new Ann Darrow (played originally by Fay Wray). I guess Blackwashing just isn’t a “thing,” is it?
     
    Colored girl is pawed by hairy black gorilla. Doesn't sound like the most PC show in town.

    Will Kong ever be #MeTooed?
  152. @peterike

    And Michelle’s book will be bought by people who want to display it (vanity-signal) on their bookshelf,

     

    Every Jewish woman in New York City will do exactly that.

    Liberals. The Hasidim and modern orthodox do not think highly of the 0bamas, and they are a large percentage of Jews in NYC.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Ghost of Bull Moose:

    I very much doubt that the Hasidim and modern Orthodox are a large percentage of Jews in NYC. And even if they were, they would be much less influential than the Reform and Secular Jews who read and are influenced by the New York Times.

    BTW, I recognize and applaud the positive roles that the Hasidim and Orthodox play in their own political jurisdictions. Unfortunately, there's not enough of them!
    , @peterike

    The Hasidim and modern orthodox do not think highly of the 0bamas, and they are a large percentage of Jews in NYC.

     

    I just assumed that when I said "Every Jewish woman in New York City" it would be understood that meant secular or Reform, not Orthodox/Hasidim. Because if you mean Hasidim you say Hasidim (Hasidim, but I don't like 'em!) Maybe that's a New York thing, but I would never think "Jews" encompassed both groups.

    Anyway, there's not much in common between the secular Jews and the Orthodox Jews, other than both groups have tons of money and outsized political influence.
  153. Anonymous[188] • Disclaimer says:

    Is it possible ’18 will be the last “omg Nazi Germany” election? This far into the social media era I don’t see it staying viable any more to hyperventilate about the descending dark night of fascism, after the opposition party has elected & seated 40-plus new Congresspersons.

    Many professional libs who literally have no other vocabulary of politicking besides this, may be Hardest Hit — but then again it could prove useful (adopting policy of Ix-nay on the Itler-hay) when your party’s current heat all seems to go for getting rid of certain parts of the Constitution, abolishing the Senate, screaming about foreign interlopers, fighting every ballot count till you win and also removing judges, etc.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    The GOP will be painted as card-carrying Nazis from here on out. As will any white person who is not showing slavish devotion to the Cultural Marxist ideals.
  154. Did everyone have a nice Armistice Day?
    A British army veteran who served in Afghanistan and was described as an “outstanding” soldier was convicted of being a member of the far-right group National Action, it can be reported for the first time.

    Prosecutors said that Vehvilainen, jailed for eight years in March, was a recruiter for the organisation and a key part of its strategy to expand its membership within the armed forces. The self-confessed racist believed in a coming “race war” and wanted to help establish an all-white stronghold in a Welsh village.

    Vehvilainen, 34, a married father of three, was renovating a home he had bought in the Welsh village of Llansilin in efforts to build a whites-only stronghold.

    The married father penned a draft of an extreme right-wing magazine he entitled Extinction, railing against inter-race relationships, ‘unnatural’ homosexuality and ‘non-whites’.

    Vehvilainen’s barrister Pavlos Panayi QC told jurors, at the start of the trial, it was ‘not in dispute that he (Vehvilainen) is a racist’, but that it was not a crime simply to hold such views.
    A Finnish anon said:

    Excellent Finnish soldier in the British army was sentenced 8 years in prison for being a British patriot. Thanks a lot bongs.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/12/british-army-solider-recruited-far-right-group-national-action

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5608581/Self-confessed-racist-Army-corporal-cleared-terrorism-offence.html

  155. @whyamihere
    Off Topic: Drudge Report link to WSJ says that Hillary will run again in 2020.
    Does anyone here think she will? Would she even win the democratic nomination?
    Most importantly, could Trump beat her again?

    No way is this true, but notice that they sacrifice nothing and probably gain some clickbaited readers by making the claim, and also notice that the Democrats still have nobody. It ping pongs between Hillary and Biden, neither of whom are serious.

  156. @Hank Archer
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/11/09/michelle-obama-miscarriage-ivf-children-pregnancy-robin-roberts-gma/1940485002/

    Having had a miscarriage doesn’t require resorting to IVF. And having already been pregnant contradicts the question of difficulty conceiving. Michelle waited until well into her 30s to have children–the biological clock is real.

    The ticking of women’s biological clock has been part of the public conversation for two generations–so it’s got nothing to do with what women do or don’t talk about to one another.

    This is one reason our so-called elites are detestable. They behave as if their ignorance of natural occurrences, e.g. miscarriages, is the fault of the wider culture (not sufficiently talking about it), and therefore they must “raise the issue” with the public by speaking out, share their anguished experience, and be heralded by media as heroic for sharing their pain. It’s a dreary soap opera.

  157. She recently revealed that her children were born via IVF treatment. Sort of adds credibility to all the stories regarding her husband being light in the loafers.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Barack was conceived the old-fashioned way: in the backseat of Frank Marshall Davis' caddy.
  158. @Art Deco
    Come again? His father aborted a brief run for the White House in 1968 when polls in New Hampshire showed him being crushed. He then took a cabinet post from Richard Nixon the following year. He retired from politics when Nixon asked for the resignation of his entire cabinet at the beginning of 1973 and sent back letters of acceptance to Romney and several others.

    when polls in New Hampshire showed him being crushed

    After Romney made some infelicitous comments (August ’67) about being brainwashed during a trip of governors to Vietnam. After the comments aired, his poll numbers nosedived and really never recovered.

  159. @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    Michelle Obama paid the price for being Barack's beard. Yes, she knew the deal when she signed up, but it still has to sting when going through with it.

    The evil Dems need to just pay her off and let her go her way. I despise her because she despises me, a white man with no shame for who I am.

    But still, give her her due. She upheld her side of the deal. The wealthy Dems should just give her whatever money she wants and cut her loose. It's a good deal for everyone.

    Barack gets to have all the penis he wants, Michelle gets her payoff, and everyone else gets to stop pretending that that Barack is anything other than a gay mulatto who was President based upon being able to read a teleprompter and appearing to have a normal family life.

    mis, We hear the constant drum beat of “white privilege ” and yet Michelle is the epitome of black privilege, from her Ivy education , her law degree, and her made to order $300k job with the U of Chicago hospital.

  160. @candid_observer
    It's an awful thing, to be thought of as being an angry black woman, merely because you're angry, black, and a woman.

    “It’s an awful thing, to be thought of as being an angry black woman, merely because you’re angry, black, and a woman.”

    In the words of the great American philosopher, Meatloaf: Two out of three ain’t bad.

  161. @Art Deco
    Obama didn't run as Ta-Nehisi Coates. His state legislative races were non-competitive and his federal campaigns didn't turn much on explicit racial appeals. Bobby Rush, who is black in a straightforward way BO isn't, cleaned his clock.

    I seem to recall his first Fed Senate election was eased by the inexplicable un-sealing of his opponents divorce papers.

  162. @MikeatMikedotMike
    https://saintandrewstwinflame.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/1fb21-unnamed.jpg?w=659&h=498

    What is the bulge in the middle of her hips?

    Nice Nazi salute, though…

  163. @Anon
    Remember that Star Trek thing, where they'd write something like "You are familiar, of course, with the political theories of Jefferson, Gandhi, and Ilskjdfldi of Rigel IV?"

    That was early Jay Leno from the Letterman Show.

    Back when he was very funny still.

  164. @Dave Pinsen
    Running for President is much harder work than Michelle has any interest in doing.

    That sounds about right, afterall, she has pretty much declared as much consistently for 15 years. What she may miss is the lifestyle of celebrity and respect.

    No matter, the Party benefits from the ceremony of begging her to run – it makes Democrats seem less insane and they can borrow some “moderate cred” from the little drama. Plus, having Michelle babble the Inspirational Speak, as opposed to Kamala shouting the Inspirational Shriek would confer pure gravy.

  165. @Tiny Duck
    GOOD

    For too long white men have dominated the classics

    TD, Hmmmm, classical literature and classical art and classical music brought o you by…white men.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    Wait until they paint Venus de Milo black …….then you'll change your tune :0
  166. i feel sorry for steve that gallagher fired him for being too un-funny.

    steve used to be the guy that brought out the watermelon.

  167. @Forbes
    Actually, after Obama was elected to the Senate, Michelle's salary at the U of Chicago hospital system went to ~$300,000. She became a Director of TreeHouse Foods (NYSE: THS) after Obama's election to the Senate. The Obama's income in 2006 was close to $1 million.

    The Obama’s income in 2006 was close to $1 million.

    Still, they scraped by as best they could.

  168. @Tyrion 2

    From what I’ve seen (I have never ‘been with’ a black woman but I’ve seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell
     
    Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You're not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant.

    @118 Tyrion 2: “Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You’re not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant.”

    Based on your exhaustive personal study, perhaps? My good friend, an electrologist, has a surprising number of black customers, as well as an unsurprising number of subcontinental customers. Dark and hairy appears to be more accurate than Dark and Lovely.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I'm guessing that pure or relatively pure African descent blacks may be smooth and hairless depending on tribe they came from but amongst American blacks, who are actually mostly mulattos, depending on the type and amount of admixture you certainly have some really hairy individuals.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Commenting on the lack of body hair (glabrousness) of Negroids and Mongoloids, Carleton S. Coon wrote that "[b]oth negroid and mongoloid skin conditions are inimical to excessive hair development except upon the scalp.
  169. @Forbes

    I see an attempt to get her out of the way sooner rather than later.
     
    Well, it's a thought.

    She has acolytes (60+ million) who mostly believe she rightfully won in 2016, and won't be denied another chance. To get Hillary out of the way requires an alternative preferable to her.

    Which of the Senate girls will be the alternative: Kamala, Liz, Kirsten, or Cory?

    As attributed to Yogi Berra, "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is."

    Booker is not gay. I know that’s the rumor de jour, but it’s highly unlikely.

    I was good friends with someone in his first campaign for Newark mayor. They had more than a professional relationship. And she is white. Booker wouldn’t allow anyone to know they were dating for the obvious impact it would have on his campaign against Sharpe James, who was always labeling Booker as a fake black.

    Like Obama, I sense he prefers white women. But unlike Obama, he hasn’t married a black woman for political reasons. Yet.

    I think the gay rumors hurt him less. Since black women voters won’t accept that he only dates Beckys. Obama with a white wife would just be Harold Ford. And where is Ford these days?

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Booker's problem is that he is evasive and weird about his personal life. I always heard he had a (white) girlfriend in Brooklyn, and spent a good bit of his time here.

    Anyway, middle aged bachelors who are cagey about their personal lives invite the speculation. It also turns voters off who wonder what they're hiding.
    , @ScarletNumber
    There were also rumors that Cory was involved with Anne Milgram, who was the New Jersey Attorney General under Jon Corzine. While Milgram is white, she doesn't look like the stereotypical white woman that black men are interested in, i.e. Mrs. Clarence Thomas.
  170. @Sammler
    ‘Cause you’ll have to swim to work every day?

    Sammler = Gatherer , right ?

  171. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Liberals. The Hasidim and modern orthodox do not think highly of the 0bamas, and they are a large percentage of Jews in NYC.

    Ghost of Bull Moose:

    I very much doubt that the Hasidim and modern Orthodox are a large percentage of Jews in NYC. And even if they were, they would be much less influential than the Reform and Secular Jews who read and are influenced by the New York Times.

    BTW, I recognize and applaud the positive roles that the Hasidim and Orthodox play in their own political jurisdictions. Unfortunately, there’s not enough of them!

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    According to this, 55% of NYC's Jews lean Dem, 31% lean GOP.

    A lot better than some groups we could name.

    https://www.jta.org/2016/04/18/news-opinion/politics/7-things-to-know-about-the-jews-of-new-york-for-tuesdays-primary

    Same article, ~60% of Jewish children in NYC are raised orthodox, and reform or nondenoms are decreasing fast.
    , @kaganovitch
    Orthodox Jews are close to 40 percent of NYC Jews. Add 200K Russian Jews and you might have an absolute Jewish majority of Obama unfriends. Orthodox cohort skews very young however, (%75 of school age Jewish children in NYC are Orthodox) so it will take a few years until they will be a voting majority.
  172. @Kylie
    "She [Michelle Obama] would make a good field hand though."

    Lol! She's got the bulk, no doubt, but she's got an attitude to match. "Sullen wench" comes to mind. It'd be easier to pick your own cotton. Safer, too.

    That’s why the overseers had whips .

  173. @MikeatMikedotMike
    https://saintandrewstwinflame.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/1fb21-unnamed.jpg?w=659&h=498

    You can call her “Michael Obama” all you want. She is epitome of beauty and none of you ugly white trash is worthy to touch this beautiful, big woman of color.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Looks to me like she has a Tiny Duck in her pocket.
    , @duncsbaby
    She's a BBWoman of Color!
    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    "You can call her “Michael Obama” all you want. She is epitome of beauty and none of you ugly white trash is worthy to touch this beautiful, big woman of color."

    Tiny Dick has been smitten ever since Michael Obama bent him over.
  174. OT:

    Can segregated neighborhoods change people’s genes?

    Researchers know that African-Americans get sicker and die earlier than white people—and now, a University of Michigan researcher will study whether racial segregation plays a part by changing a person’s genes…

    Through racial segregation, whites and blacks are often sorted into segregated neighborhoods. Black neighborhoods, then, are often exposed to greater levels of chemical stressors. These chemical stressors intersect with other kinds of stressors in black people’s lives to greatly impact their health.

  175. @Dan Smith
    Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf. Said it was racist. Of course, she was wearing red, just like a Target employee, and she is, as Steve notes, six feet tall. But when you and your husband are the leaders of the let's-find-racism-in-all-aspects-of life movement, you can't be bothered by details like that.

    I had an old, short black lady ask me to reach something for her at the supermarket. She was polite and called me “young man.” How can someone find offense in interactions like this?

    • Replies: @megabar
    > How can someone find offense in interactions like this?

    When you are told that group A causes problems for your group, group B, you will begin to look at all actions of group A through that lens.
    , @ScarletNumber
    In case you aren't being obtuse, generally speaking men are taller than women, so a woman asking a man to use his height to help her is flattering him. In the same vein, a woman asking a man to help her open a jar isn't insulting him, but a man asking a particularly husky woman the same is insulting her.
  176. @Unladen Swallow
    She would have no chance against Trump in 2020, assuming the economy continues its upward trend. A strong economy always helps an incumbent President, particularly if it turned up on his watch.

    > A strong economy always helps an incumbent President

    As the stark contrast between left and right grows, the economy will be less important as a campaign issue.

  177. @Harry Baldwin
    I had an old, short black lady ask me to reach something for her at the supermarket. She was polite and called me "young man." How can someone find offense in interactions like this?

    > How can someone find offense in interactions like this?

    When you are told that group A causes problems for your group, group B, you will begin to look at all actions of group A through that lens.

  178. @Louis Renault
    She's a feminist William Jennings Bryan. Definitely the silver standard of 21st century democratic politicians.

    She’s a feminist William Jennings Bryan. Definitely the silver standard of 21st century democratic politicians.

    She, however, is only too happy to crucify Mankind on a cross of gold, provided she gets to keep it.

  179. @Mr. Anon
    Yes, Romney is a slippery opportunist. I never liked him.

    I met him at an event before he declared his candidacy for the presidency the first time. No television there but plenty of photographers. He wore more makeup than the 400+ girls in my high school freshman class added up. I figured then that he’d never be president. He’s one of those guys with soft hands who specializes in having his henchmen punch down.

  180. @Forbes

    I despise the execrable George W. Bush and think most on the right do as well.
     
    I try to make it a rule not to have strong feelings about politicians. Sooner or later they are bound to disappoint--or worse. To care about them, you'd have to give a shit--it's unlikely they give a shit about you. And those who win elections, we are stuck with for years at a time.

    I try to make it a rule not to have strong feelings about politicians.

    I try to as well. Unfortunately, a person as repellent as George W. Bush makes the attempt futile.

  181. @Henry's Cat
    Drudge is stirring the pot nicely:

    Michelle Obama is kicking off the publicity tour for her new book, “Becoming,” but her first media appearance got off to a rocky start.

    Despite being heavily edited so she spoke for little more than 45 seconds, Michelle Obama sounded more like a millennial girl chatting on Snapchat than a former First Lady. Throughout her responses to ABC’s Robin Roberts, she repeatedly said “like,” “you know?” “um,” and even, “dude.”

    “Barack Obama has always walked like Barack Obama, like, he has got all the time in the world,” she said of their first meeting. “He had that stride. I was, like, ‘Dude, you're cute,’ but in my mind, I was, like --“

    Overall Obama said “you know” 10 times, “like” 9 times, and “um,” “yeah,” and “what?” another five times.
     
    https://news.grabien.com/story-michelle-o-you-know-dude-you-know

    I can't find any mention of the book's ghostwriter.

    Sounds like the famous interview Caroline Kennedy gave when she was planning a run for a New York senate seat in which she said “you know” 142 times.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4015918/Caroline-Kennedy-repeats-you-know-142-times-in-interview.html

  182. @Dan Hayes
    Ghost of Bull Moose:

    I very much doubt that the Hasidim and modern Orthodox are a large percentage of Jews in NYC. And even if they were, they would be much less influential than the Reform and Secular Jews who read and are influenced by the New York Times.

    BTW, I recognize and applaud the positive roles that the Hasidim and Orthodox play in their own political jurisdictions. Unfortunately, there's not enough of them!

    According to this, 55% of NYC’s Jews lean Dem, 31% lean GOP.

    A lot better than some groups we could name.

    https://www.jta.org/2016/04/18/news-opinion/politics/7-things-to-know-about-the-jews-of-new-york-for-tuesdays-primary

    Same article, ~60% of Jewish children in NYC are raised orthodox, and reform or nondenoms are decreasing fast.

  183. @Reg Cæsar

    Clearly, loyalty to Israel is the highest form of American patriotism.
     
    Shipping our Jews to Israel would help us out politically, but that would ruin Israel. It would mean the return of the Labor Party, which is wrong about everything.

    ‘Shipping our Jews to Israel would help us out politically, but that would ruin Israel. ‘

    ? Wouldn’t this sentence work better if ‘but’ was replaced with ‘and’?

    Anyway, no Jewish population with an authentic choice has ever emigrated to Israel.

  184. @Redman
    Booker is not gay. I know that’s the rumor de jour, but it’s highly unlikely.

    I was good friends with someone in his first campaign for Newark mayor. They had more than a professional relationship. And she is white. Booker wouldn’t allow anyone to know they were dating for the obvious impact it would have on his campaign against Sharpe James, who was always labeling Booker as a fake black.

    Like Obama, I sense he prefers white women. But unlike Obama, he hasn’t married a black woman for political reasons. Yet.

    I think the gay rumors hurt him less. Since black women voters won’t accept that he only dates Beckys. Obama with a white wife would just be Harold Ford. And where is Ford these days?

    Booker’s problem is that he is evasive and weird about his personal life. I always heard he had a (white) girlfriend in Brooklyn, and spent a good bit of his time here.

    Anyway, middle aged bachelors who are cagey about their personal lives invite the speculation. It also turns voters off who wonder what they’re hiding.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, Corn
    • Replies: @Corn
    I agree. Booker’s problem isn’t that he’s gay (he’s not), it’s that he just comes across as a huge flake. Just phony and weird.
  185. Correction: “…as she sets out on her Getting Paid [What I'm Owed]book promotion tour…”

  186. @Dan Smith
    Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf. Said it was racist. Of course, she was wearing red, just like a Target employee, and she is, as Steve notes, six feet tall. But when you and your husband are the leaders of the let's-find-racism-in-all-aspects-of life movement, you can't be bothered by details like that.

    ‘Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf…’

    The first problem with this is the likelihood of Michelle Obama being in a Target store.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Well, Target is an accommodatimg place so long as you're not trying to unionize.
  187. @peterike
    Speaking of all this, and nothing. In the "Where's the white outrage?" department, the big new Broadway production of "King Kong" features the new Ann Darrow (played originally by Fay Wray). I guess Blackwashing just isn't a "thing," is it?

    https://kingkongbroadway.com/_img/Christiani-Pitts-BW-crop.jpg

    Reminds me of an old joke: “Maxine Waters has been mad ever since King Kong tossed her back over the wall.”

    • LOL: Kylie
  188. @anonymous
    She recently revealed that her children were born via IVF treatment. Sort of adds credibility to all the stories regarding her husband being light in the loafers.

    Barack was conceived the old-fashioned way: in the backseat of Frank Marshall Davis’ caddy.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Frank Marshall Davis was known to be a chum of Stanley Dunham ca. 1971, when Obama was 10 years old.

    The Dunhams had lived in Honolulu for all of five months when BO Jr was conceived. At the time, Frank Marshall Davis lived 15 miles away from the Dunhams and ran a small company which distributed paper products. Other than random chance, he'd have had no occasion to cross paths with any of the Dunhams. Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham were both enrolled at the University of Hawaii. He was about 6 years her senior, and his wife was thousands of miles away. Frank Marshall Davis was 37 years her senior with a wife in residence.
  189. I disliked some of the things Michelle Obama said during her husband’s rise to power, but, like Steve, I always thought she didn’t really want to be there in the first place. The criticism of how much time (and public money) she spent on vacation always struck me as overwrought. If she wanted to get her family out of the fishbowl of DC, that’s perfectly understandable.

    I think she would’ve been perfectly happy for BHO to have been taken some well-paid diversity sinecure in Chicago that would have given them enough money and political connections to make life easy, but would have more or less preserved their anonymity.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Barack was offered a million dollar per year job as head of the liberal Joyce Foundation but turned it down to pursue his political ambitions. I think Michelle was pretty sore about that.
  190. @e
    An ironic thing about Michelle Obama, feminist icon, is that she absolutely hated it when people encouraged her to play basketball, like her older brother played at Princeton. She’s a rather feminine lady who doesn’t much like sports, and doesn’t at all like being reminded that she is strong and tall.

    That may be so, but she certainly likes lifting weights. Those shoulder muscles are the result of lifting.

    Are curvaceous African butts the result of heavy squats and dead lifts?

  191. Michelle is no smarter than a truck driver. That’s all you need to know about her

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Michelle is no smarter than a truck driver.
     
    C'mon, man! Truck drivers do real work!
    , @Anonymous
    Truck drivers are a variable bunch. MENSA has more than its share but then there are some semiliterate and seemingly 80 IQ guys(white, black, now a lot of Arabs) out there. Many blacks do well as drivers, usually either as household goods movers or union LTL drivers and many retire with four million accident free miles. In my trucking days I deadheaded with a couple of black drivers, neither was particularly intelligent sounding but they drove very, very smoothly and I had no problem crashing out while they drove.

    On the railroad, black locomotive engineers have a reputation for smooth train handling but a sketchy knowledge of the GCOR as regards anything they don't do every day.
  192. @Dan Hayes
    Ghost of Bull Moose:

    I very much doubt that the Hasidim and modern Orthodox are a large percentage of Jews in NYC. And even if they were, they would be much less influential than the Reform and Secular Jews who read and are influenced by the New York Times.

    BTW, I recognize and applaud the positive roles that the Hasidim and Orthodox play in their own political jurisdictions. Unfortunately, there's not enough of them!

    Orthodox Jews are close to 40 percent of NYC Jews. Add 200K Russian Jews and you might have an absolute Jewish majority of Obama unfriends. Orthodox cohort skews very young however, (%75 of school age Jewish children in NYC are Orthodox) so it will take a few years until they will be a voting majority.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    kaganovitch:

    Thank you for your positive report on Jewish political attitudes in NYC. But I am wondering about the political orientation of the Orthodox. Would they necessarily be conservatives or even neoconservatives. Is there any data on their political orientation?

    Most of my interactions in NYC have been with secular or reform Jews who invariably are baying-at-the-moon leftists.


    .
  193. @Darwin's Sh-tlist
    I disliked some of the things Michelle Obama said during her husband's rise to power, but, like Steve, I always thought she didn't really want to be there in the first place. The criticism of how much time (and public money) she spent on vacation always struck me as overwrought. If she wanted to get her family out of the fishbowl of DC, that's perfectly understandable.

    I think she would've been perfectly happy for BHO to have been taken some well-paid diversity sinecure in Chicago that would have given them enough money and political connections to make life easy, but would have more or less preserved their anonymity.

    Barack was offered a million dollar per year job as head of the liberal Joyce Foundation but turned it down to pursue his political ambitions. I think Michelle was pretty sore about that.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    "Barack was offered a million dollar per year job"

    To do what? Are they still accepting candidates?
  194. @Steve Sailer
    Barack was offered a million dollar per year job as head of the liberal Joyce Foundation but turned it down to pursue his political ambitions. I think Michelle was pretty sore about that.

    “Barack was offered a million dollar per year job”

    To do what? Are they still accepting candidates?

  195. @Meretricious
    Michelle is no smarter than a truck driver. That’s all you need to know about her

    Michelle is no smarter than a truck driver.

    C’mon, man! Truck drivers do real work!

  196. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Booker's problem is that he is evasive and weird about his personal life. I always heard he had a (white) girlfriend in Brooklyn, and spent a good bit of his time here.

    Anyway, middle aged bachelors who are cagey about their personal lives invite the speculation. It also turns voters off who wonder what they're hiding.

    I agree. Booker’s problem isn’t that he’s gay (he’s not), it’s that he just comes across as a huge flake. Just phony and weird.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u93bhAimFFU
  197. @Tiny Duck.
    You can call her “Michael Obama” all you want. She is epitome of beauty and none of you ugly white trash is worthy to touch this beautiful, big woman of color.

    Looks to me like she has a Tiny Duck in her pocket.

  198. @Corn
    I agree. Booker’s problem isn’t that he’s gay (he’s not), it’s that he just comes across as a huge flake. Just phony and weird.

  199. @3g4me
    @118 Tyrion 2: "Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You’re not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant."

    Based on your exhaustive personal study, perhaps? My good friend, an electrologist, has a surprising number of black customers, as well as an unsurprising number of subcontinental customers. Dark and hairy appears to be more accurate than Dark and Lovely.

    I’m guessing that pure or relatively pure African descent blacks may be smooth and hairless depending on tribe they came from but amongst American blacks, who are actually mostly mulattos, depending on the type and amount of admixture you certainly have some really hairy individuals.

    • Replies: @Lowe
    This is right. It depends on the person's background. I do think the more African admixture, the less body hair, generally.
  200. @anon

    The Matrix meets Metamorphosis: Donna Zuckerberg on the alt-right hijacking the Classics
     
    that's rich, coming from a jew

    is this some kind of a game they play where they accuse you of everything they do?

    next she'll claim the Alt-Right is spying on you

    is this some kind of a game they play where they accuse you of everything they do?

    Pretty much. The amount of projection is astonishing.

  201. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Meretricious
    Michelle is no smarter than a truck driver. That’s all you need to know about her

    Truck drivers are a variable bunch. MENSA has more than its share but then there are some semiliterate and seemingly 80 IQ guys(white, black, now a lot of Arabs) out there. Many blacks do well as drivers, usually either as household goods movers or union LTL drivers and many retire with four million accident free miles. In my trucking days I deadheaded with a couple of black drivers, neither was particularly intelligent sounding but they drove very, very smoothly and I had no problem crashing out while they drove.

    On the railroad, black locomotive engineers have a reputation for smooth train handling but a sketchy knowledge of the GCOR as regards anything they don’t do every day.

  202. dude, my point is that affirmative action blacks like Barry and Michelle are cognitive lightweights. Barry, who’s obviously smarter than MO, would never have made partner at Jacoby & Meyers were he 100% white.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    As blacks go, Barry is smarter than 95-97% of other blacks and about 65 or 70 percent of whites, but the gulf between Barry and some of the smarter Washington operatives is still immense. I figure GWB had to be about five to ten points higher than BHO and that says a lot.
  203. @Colin Wright
    'Michelle also resented being asked by a short female customer at a Target store to help her get an item on a top shelf...'

    The first problem with this is the likelihood of Michelle Obama being in a Target store.

    Well, Target is an accommodatimg place so long as you’re not trying to unionize.

  204. @nebulafox
    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security, I'm pretty sure continued exposure of Hillary Clinton to the public eye is one of the ways the DNC can absolutely ensure 8 years of President Trump. Not unless they can somehow repackage her as anything other than the epitome of the mandarin class that got Trump into office in the first place. And they can't. And they know it.

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020. But Barack Obama was quite beatable in 2012, and George W. Bush was quite beatable in 2004. Look how those ended. Both major political parties no longer have the competence to smartly win elections on their own anymore, even when the opposing party is facing serious problems. It's up to who ends up making themselves less noxious that given year. Our politics is more theatre and caricature than anything else these days.

    Trump will be quite beatable in 2020.

    Right, because of the bad economy. Oh, except the economy isn’t bad. So Trump will be beatable because of the foreign policy blunders, like turning Libya into a Moose-Limb Bro’hood state, or Syria into a innocent-blood saturated country. Or landing the Marines in Iran. Except Trump didn’t do any of that. So it must be because he is worse than other Republi-traitors like Bush, McCain, Romney, all of whom were literally the reincarnation of Hitler. Except the left considers anyone who disagrees with their stupidity to be ‘literally Hitler ™”

    Trump has challenges, but if he gets the idiots at (In)justice to break up Google, Microsoft, and Faceebook he’ll be as popular than Teddy Roosevelt. And if he stems the tide of immigration through e-Verify he’ll be more popular than Teddy Roosevelt.

    Trump pretty much single-handedly stemmed the Blue Wave. He has lots of paths to victory, and he is smart enough to take one of them.

    Barring a stroke and a takeover by Jared or Ivanka, I predict Trump wins in 2020.

  205. @Harry Baldwin
    (*George W. Bush* is getting rehabed these days)

    Only on the left, where, as an astute iSteve commenter put it awhile back, they'll always use a dead virus to kill a live virus.

    I despise the execrable George W. Bush and think most on the right do as well.

    Agree.

  206. @Stephen Paul Foster
    Bill and Hill have are setting off on a multiple-city "speaking" tour which can be interpreted in a couple of ways-- (1) just grubbing for more money, (2) getting ready to run in 202o.

    see: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-clintons-do-barnum-and-bailey.html

    (1) just grubbing for more money, (2) getting ready to run in 202o.

    You repeat yourself.

  207. @Authenticjazzman
    This is what can de defined as leftist "progress" : installing a brazen, uncouth, unread, double-digit IQ classlesss fool into the WH.

    Meaning the US has "progressed" from an entity headed up by such sophisticated men of letters such as Jefferson, to a fools paradise in which boogoolooing nit-wits are to be in the position of having to deal with cunning actual "statesmen" such as VP, and then having the floor mopped up by their own stupidity and complete lack of insight.

    America is a hopeless case.

    Authenticjazzman " Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    America is a hopeless case.

    No, it isn’t. We will win this, and when we do, we will be sure to keep anyone with a ‘” Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.‘ profile as far from the levers of power as possible.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    Otoh we might need to paradrop a free form jazz section into any one of a dozen trouble spots around the world at short notice.
    , @Authehticjazzman
    "As far from the levers of power as possible"

    Now just why would you want to keep anyone such as myself, with my intelligence, a dyed in the wool conservative, and profound anti-leftist "as far from the levers of powers as possible".

    You are severely misreading me, and you are holding a distorted viewpoint of what I stand for.

    AJM
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " We will win this" : Just who is the "we" of this equasion? As far as the so-called "conservative" politicos are concerned : they are far too terrified of the "race card", GS's antifa armies burning down cities from coast to coast, and the superhuman "wrath" of the BC/HC/BO clique, to make any real efforts at turning this leftist pandemonia around.

    And you are really reading me, a dyed in the wool conservative, wrong.

    AJM

  208. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lightweight
    dude, my point is that affirmative action blacks like Barry and Michelle are cognitive lightweights. Barry, who's obviously smarter than MO, would never have made partner at Jacoby & Meyers were he 100% white.

    As blacks go, Barry is smarter than 95-97% of other blacks and about 65 or 70 percent of whites, but the gulf between Barry and some of the smarter Washington operatives is still immense. I figure GWB had to be about five to ten points higher than BHO and that says a lot.

  209. @Harry Baldwin
    I could imagine Mitt Romney running again, as he has enough of his own money for a primary challenge, but he won’t win.

    I actually voted for Romney in the 2012 Republican primary, when he was still pretending to be concerned about illegal immigration, a stance he dropped that as soon as he won the nomination. When, in the debates, Obama challenged him about his support for "self deportation," Romney stood there looking as dumbstruck as Dan Quayle. If he had responded forcefully it would have made a difference, but he didn't actually believe in policies he had campaigned on.

    I get so tired of Hannity talking about what a fine man Mitt Romney is. Maybe to his immediate family that is so. As a politician, he is just another duplicitous bastard like John McCain.

    As a politician, he is just another duplicitous bastard like John McCain.

    True.

  210. @Buzz Mohawk
    Michelle began her own illustrious career with her Princeton thesis on Being Black at Princeton, so it is natural that she will continue her groundbreaking work with a book about Being Black in the White House While Being Married to a Man Who Was Being Black While President.

    Too bad he wasn’t able to be a real President while being Black.

  211. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She’s a rather feminine lady
     
    https://66.media.tumblr.com/6962f4feb7517735723041e760eca5a6/tumblr_inline_o3rn0eVl5s1qj2p0p_540.jpg

    Thanks. It’s late, I’m tired, and was about to rant that wonderful Michelle is made like a manly man with an unpleasant face and… saved !

  212. @Reg Cæsar

    Clearly, loyalty to Israel is the highest form of American patriotism.
     
    Shipping our Jews to Israel would help us out politically, but that would ruin Israel. It would mean the return of the Labor Party, which is wrong about everything.

    Helps America and ruins Israel – sounds like a win win.

  213. Michele is mediocre and boring. She will always be a shadow. Fame is soooooo illusive. No one cares about Plan B-ever. No one cares how smart you are. People hate smarty-ass people who could not even ‘fish for their supper.’” – fuck them. The eff word has been uleashed! and accepted by the MSM.

  214. @Anonymous
    I'm guessing that pure or relatively pure African descent blacks may be smooth and hairless depending on tribe they came from but amongst American blacks, who are actually mostly mulattos, depending on the type and amount of admixture you certainly have some really hairy individuals.

    This is right. It depends on the person’s background. I do think the more African admixture, the less body hair, generally.

  215. @Anonymous
    She's like Tina Turner, a Negress capable of giving birth to children but also capable of beating the hell out of most sad excuses of soyboy white males today in a fistfight, at least in her prime. Not rare among black females. Against the average white current Army infantryman she'd be dead, of course, but against Kurt Cobain she'd have probably KO'd him in the second or third round of a proper boxing match.

    From what I've seen (I have never 'been with' a black woman but I've seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell and either has to shave a lot or has had electrolysis. Probably has a pungent aroma as well. But still, a biological XX chromosome female.

    I can’t tell if you are joking or serious. Even a big woman like Michelle Obama would stand no chance against a noodle-armed soyboy, if he decided to fight, not run.

    A noodle man is still much stronger than a large woman. You could probably pick skinny fat dudes out of their apartments at random and they’d all be able to best female UFC fighters.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You are overestimating the physical condition of some of the so called males out there. It has gotten really pathetic. Video games and power assist everything have reduced a not insubstantial number of these "men" to what would have been considered invalid status decades ago.
  216. @OFWHAP
    She actually used that anecdote on two different shows with two different contexts. One was with, as you mentioned, the "racist" angle that so offended Michelle. The next one she was laughing/smiling while telling the story and was actually happy to help.

    Her handlers realized that Version A of the Target story was alienating the shelf-stocking segment of the voting public, so they went with Version B.

  217. @San Franciscan non-monk
    @Tyrion you're exactly right. At the risk of taking this discussion in a prurient direction, I've had my share of dating with African American and African women, and let me give some advice to the single men in this forum. African woman are awesome. Depending on the region of Africa or clan or tribe they are from, they can be completely hairless on the legs and underams and so forth. As in, they never, even once in their life, have to shave their legs. Combined with their silky-textured skin (yes that's also a thing), they are a dream in bed. God it's amazing. Whether or not for whatever reason you ever plan to marry a woman of sub-saharan woman you owe it to yourself to have a one as a girlfriend for a while. Lighter skinned AA women don't make the cut, they need to be almost totally or totally African.

    The hardest part is hiding your amazement and delight. Be a man and act like you've been there before you know.

    African woman are awesome…they can be completely hairless on the legs and underams and so forth.

    I’ll take your word for it. I don’t want to get close enough to see for myself.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  218. re Barry Obama being more intelligent than most blacks–not true. Look at some of the more intelligent mulattos–like the NY Times’s Seth Schiesel. He is considerably more intelligent than Barry.And, yes, GWB is also smarter than Barry. GWB had decebt pre-race normed SAT scores, whereas Barry has the SAT police protecting the fruits of his cognitive 110 IQness. LOL. Why isn’t anyone doing a documentary on how a lightweight like Affirmative Action Barry could have been mistaken for a creative genius! Geez!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    We agree BHO is between 105-110 IQ most likely, GWB around 12o. I think.

    Average black IQ is 85 in the US. About 1/6 of blacks are at or above the 100 IQ that we take as the black average. If Barry is actually 110 that puts him higher than all but two or three percent of blacks, because the drop between 100 and 110 is pretty steep on that curve.

    So yes there are much smarter blacks than BHO, but their numbers are quite small.
    , @tyrone
    Some venomous snakes are a lot more intelligent than previously thought and dirty ,filthy rats …….off the charts.
  219. Michele has no idea how much her children are now, beyond, her control. It is a shit show. I like Michele, but she tied her boat up to a half a millenium of facts and data. Her daughters (like my sons) are just “meat.”

  220. @Lowe
    I can't tell if you are joking or serious. Even a big woman like Michelle Obama would stand no chance against a noodle-armed soyboy, if he decided to fight, not run.

    A noodle man is still much stronger than a large woman. You could probably pick skinny fat dudes out of their apartments at random and they'd all be able to best female UFC fighters.

    You are overestimating the physical condition of some of the so called males out there. It has gotten really pathetic. Video games and power assist everything have reduced a not insubstantial number of these “men” to what would have been considered invalid status decades ago.

  221. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lightweight
    re Barry Obama being more intelligent than most blacks--not true. Look at some of the more intelligent mulattos--like the NY Times's Seth Schiesel. He is considerably more intelligent than Barry.And, yes, GWB is also smarter than Barry. GWB had decebt pre-race normed SAT scores, whereas Barry has the SAT police protecting the fruits of his cognitive 110 IQness. LOL. Why isn't anyone doing a documentary on how a lightweight like Affirmative Action Barry could have been mistaken for a creative genius! Geez!

    We agree BHO is between 105-110 IQ most likely, GWB around 12o. I think.

    Average black IQ is 85 in the US. About 1/6 of blacks are at or above the 100 IQ that we take as the black average. If Barry is actually 110 that puts him higher than all but two or three percent of blacks, because the drop between 100 and 110 is pretty steep on that curve.

    So yes there are much smarter blacks than BHO, but their numbers are quite small.

  222. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    America is a hopeless case.
     
    No, it isn't. We will win this, and when we do, we will be sure to keep anyone with a '” Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.' profile as far from the levers of power as possible.

    Otoh we might need to paradrop a free form jazz section into any one of a dozen trouble spots around the world at short notice.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  223. I heard (on FOX) that Michelle Obama is getting a $65 million advance for this book. Assuming a 15% royalty (which would be, I think, pretty generous), she would have to sell about 20 million books to earn what she has been advanced.

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama’s ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?

    • Replies: @black sea

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama’s ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?
     
    Res Ipsa Loquitur
    , @Jim Don Bob

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies?
     
    Every library and school in the US will buy a copy.
    , @anonymous

    Or is this just part of the Obama’s ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?
     
    That's pretty much what I figure. Bribery in this day and age has progressed beyond the old grubby cash days. It's done legally and according to gentlemen's agreements whereby payment is delivered afterward, not beforehand, and there's no reneging on payment. These people went to good schools and honor these understandings. That's what they have lawyers for, to see that bribery is done via subterfuge and legally. Would Shakespeare receive $65M today?
    , @Henry's Cat
    The reported advance is for books by both Michelle and Barack, so her true value will only be a fraction (10-15% maybe) of his.
  224. @kaganovitch
    Orthodox Jews are close to 40 percent of NYC Jews. Add 200K Russian Jews and you might have an absolute Jewish majority of Obama unfriends. Orthodox cohort skews very young however, (%75 of school age Jewish children in NYC are Orthodox) so it will take a few years until they will be a voting majority.

    kaganovitch:

    Thank you for your positive report on Jewish political attitudes in NYC. But I am wondering about the political orientation of the Orthodox. Would they necessarily be conservatives or even neoconservatives. Is there any data on their political orientation?

    Most of my interactions in NYC have been with secular or reform Jews who invariably are baying-at-the-moon leftists.

    .

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    But I am wondering about the political orientation of the Orthodox. Would they necessarily be conservatives or even neoconservatives. Is there any data on their political orientation?

    There is a pretty good data set in the Pew report "A Portrait of Jewish Americans". The Orthodox segment thereof is addressed here http://www.pewforum.org/2015/08/26/a-portrait-of-american-orthodox-jews/ . Orthodox Jews break down as roughly 2/3 Haredi (my community) and 1/3 Modern Orthodox. They are heavily concentrated in the Northeast ( %90 for Haredim , %60ish for M.O.). They vote Repub. around % 58 ( somewhat skewed by local elections ,as many local Dems in NYC bring home the (kosher!) bacon. In National elections I would guess, well over %60 Repub. based on 2016 precint data in Ortho neighborhoods in NYC (wall to wall Haredi Orthodox precints were %80-20 Trump). Re Conservatism , % 65 of Haredim identify as Politically Conservative vs % 40 of Modern Orthodox (Modern Orthodox much more likely to attend University which affects political orientation). "Orthodox Jews also are far more likely than other Jews to say that homosexuality should be discouraged by society, with more Haredi Jews (70%) than Modern Orthodox Jews (38%) saying this." (from report).
    As I mentioned earlier % 75 percent of Jewish children in NYC are Orthodox (based on population breakdown and higher Haredi birthrate, well over % 50 would be Haredi). If israel is your bugaboo, though, no joy ,as support for Israel is very high among the Orthodox. (from report) " Connection With and Attitudes Toward Israel
    The survey finds that 61% of Orthodox Jews say they are very emotionally attached to Israel, whereas 27% of other Jews say the same. And there are significant differences between Modern Orthodox Jews and Haredi Jews on views toward Israel. Broadly speaking, Modern Orthodox Jews display stronger attachment to Israel; they are more likely than Haredi Jews to say that they are very emotionally attached to Israel (77% vs. 55%), that caring about Israel is essential to being Jewish (79% vs. 45%) and that the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel (64% vs. 48%).
    " The large Satmar and Satmar affiliated presence among Haredim (Satmar is theologically opposed to Israeli state) accounts for greater Modern Orthodox than Haredi support for Israel.
  225. @peterike
    Speaking of all this, and nothing. In the "Where's the white outrage?" department, the big new Broadway production of "King Kong" features the new Ann Darrow (played originally by Fay Wray). I guess Blackwashing just isn't a "thing," is it?

    https://kingkongbroadway.com/_img/Christiani-Pitts-BW-crop.jpg

    Speaking of all this, and nothing. In the “Where’s the white outrage?” department, the big new Broadway production of “King Kong” features the new Ann Darrow (played originally by Fay Wray). I guess Blackwashing just isn’t a “thing,” is it?

    Colored girl is pawed by hairy black gorilla. Doesn’t sound like the most PC show in town.

    Will Kong ever be #MeTooed?

  226. @3g4me
    @118 Tyrion 2: "Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You’re not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant."

    Based on your exhaustive personal study, perhaps? My good friend, an electrologist, has a surprising number of black customers, as well as an unsurprising number of subcontinental customers. Dark and hairy appears to be more accurate than Dark and Lovely.

    Commenting on the lack of body hair (glabrousness) of Negroids and Mongoloids, Carleton S. Coon wrote that “[b]oth negroid and mongoloid skin conditions are inimical to excessive hair development except upon the scalp.

    • Replies: @anon
    It has been suggested that there are only 2 Races :
    Mongols and Caucasians, and Africans, Pacific Islanders, and Native Americans are part of the Mongol Race.
  227. @Tyrion 2
    Commenting on the lack of body hair (glabrousness) of Negroids and Mongoloids, Carleton S. Coon wrote that "[b]oth negroid and mongoloid skin conditions are inimical to excessive hair development except upon the scalp.

    It has been suggested that there are only 2 Races :
    Mongols and Caucasians, and Africans, Pacific Islanders, and Native Americans are part of the Mongol Race.

  228. @Art Deco
    Unless my memory is playing tricks on me, Mrs. Robinson had a secretarial job. Mr. Robinson, IIRC, was a technician with the local water authority. I'll wager BO"s earnings stream more than matched his father-in-law's in real terms. It's just that Mooch has expensive tastes (and both of them have had problems with expenditure control).

    Few ordinary women have spent 85%-100% of their work life on political patronage and I doubt you'll find more than a few who have been so handsomely compensated in such positions. They are both odd in that they have had (at least in their work history) a simulacrum of an adult life rather than the real thing. (You want to hack off a partisan Democrat, just recite BO's work history with spare descriptive remarks about what he did do and did not do in the positions he held).

    While we're at it, there's not much indication that Michelle Obama likes money per se. Joe Dimaggio liked money. Mooch likes high-end goods and services you buy with money.

    Michelle was Jesse Jackson’s babysitter, so she had a fair amount of exposure to affluence. (I drove by Jesse’s house in 1988 when he was running for president. It was a nice big house although not super luxurious. It seemed roughly appropriate for a man who could had some Presidential primaries.)

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Not sure what data fields IRS 990 forms were public information at that time. Jackson was compelled in 1984 to make financial disclosures which demonstrated Operation Push was paying him a six-figure salary. Given the changes in nominal employee compensation since 1984, a contextually similar sum today would be in excess of $400,000 per year, absurd for the philanthropic sector unless you're running something like the Red Cross or New York University with real buildings and large payrolls to meet.

    I would assume she was employed to watch Jackson's younger children, ca. 1980, and not all that often as they had three older siblings.
  229. @res
    I love the damned if you do, damned if you don't gotcha game:

    He also avoids any mention of race, the typical flashpoint of controversy for genetics books. Both omissions will strike many readers — particularly in America, where racial divisions loom large — as irresponsible.
     
    I think the main purpose of reviews like that is just to make sure that the goodthinkers know the book is heretical.

    This false equivalency is also quite fun:

    Plomin makes sense of his personal struggles to maintain body weight by noting that his polygenic score for body weight is above average, just as I make sense of the fact that I’m jealous and stubborn by noting that I’m a Taurus.

     

    I think that makes clear how seriously Kathryn Paige Harden should be taken once she puts her goodthinker hat on. She is only in her mid 30s so there should be lots of time to chuckle at the things she says now with the benefit of the hindsight offered by future genetic studies: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/fashion/weddings/20harden.html

    P.S. Thanks for the link. Maybe you should add a comment to James Thompson's review of the book today? Also, does the Spectator not allow even READING comments for non-subscribers?

    That wedding link is very David Brooks, isn’t it?

  230. @Tyrion 2

    From what I’ve seen (I have never ‘been with’ a black woman but I’ve seen a couple naked) she is probably hairy as hell
     
    Black people are almost as naturally lacking in body hair as East Asians. You're not only unpleasant but also quite unobservant.

    Not quite. Black people (in the sense of Sub-Saharan Africans) are naturally more lacking in body hair than East Asians. Native Americans, too.

    Oceanians are the most hirsute of the non-Caucasoid races, followed by East Asians. Pure-blooded Blacks and Native Americans are almost all entirely glabrous.

  231. @Buffalo Joe
    TD, Hmmmm, classical literature and classical art and classical music brought o you by...white men.

    Wait until they paint Venus de Milo black …….then you’ll change your tune :0

  232. @Lightweight
    re Barry Obama being more intelligent than most blacks--not true. Look at some of the more intelligent mulattos--like the NY Times's Seth Schiesel. He is considerably more intelligent than Barry.And, yes, GWB is also smarter than Barry. GWB had decebt pre-race normed SAT scores, whereas Barry has the SAT police protecting the fruits of his cognitive 110 IQness. LOL. Why isn't anyone doing a documentary on how a lightweight like Affirmative Action Barry could have been mistaken for a creative genius! Geez!

    Some venomous snakes are a lot more intelligent than previously thought and dirty ,filthy rats …….off the charts.

  233. @Art Deco
    I am curious – in the history of the World was there ever a “feminist Icon” who was at all feminine?

    Letty Cottin Pogrebin is in the normal range as far as her style. She's also long-married and has children. Her time in the sun was a while ago.


    Clare Boothe Luce was quite feminine, but I don't think post 1963 feminists took any interest in her; she was Catholic and against legal permissions for abortion.

    Yeah, pull the other one, Art.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    She's 80 years old, you knucklehead. Of course she isn't pretty anymore.
  234. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Barack was conceived the old-fashioned way: in the backseat of Frank Marshall Davis' caddy.

    Frank Marshall Davis was known to be a chum of Stanley Dunham ca. 1971, when Obama was 10 years old.

    The Dunhams had lived in Honolulu for all of five months when BO Jr was conceived. At the time, Frank Marshall Davis lived 15 miles away from the Dunhams and ran a small company which distributed paper products. Other than random chance, he’d have had no occasion to cross paths with any of the Dunhams. Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham were both enrolled at the University of Hawaii. He was about 6 years her senior, and his wife was thousands of miles away. Frank Marshall Davis was 37 years her senior with a wife in residence.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Frank Marshall Davis was 37 years [Stanley Dunham's] senior with a wife in residence.
     
    Yet it is undeniably FMD, semi-professional pornographer, who took the famous nude picture of Stanley Dunham.
  235. @duncsbaby
    Yeah, pull the other one, Art.
    https://d18t6orusej5w.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Founding-Mother-Letty-Cottin-Pogrebin1.jpg

    She’s 80 years old, you knucklehead. Of course she isn’t pretty anymore.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    She wasn't pretty back then. Gloria Steinem otoh was attractive well into her middle age. She would've been a much better example for your contrarian point.
  236. @Tiny Duck
    GOOD

    For too long white men have dominated the classics

    Yep, you’re right, take away Homer, Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripedes, Plato, Aristotle, Herodotus, Thucydides, Plutarch, Virgil, Ovid, Suetonius, & Marcus Aurelius & instead just study Sappho. That will show those white guys.

  237. @Mr. Anon
    It is remarkable - the stupid s**t that uncritical, unthinking people will believe. Michelle Obama is clearly a woman; there are lots of pictures of her as a young girl. You guys with your ridiculous theories - that Obama was born in Kenya, or that is wife is a dude - did a lot to undermine any serious criticism of his Presidency. You may as well have been paid by the DNC.

    It is remarkable – the stupid s**t that uncritical, unthinking people will believe. Michelle Obama is clearly a woman; there are lots of pictures of her as a young girl. You guys with your ridiculous theories – that Obama was born in Kenya, or that is wife is a dude – did a lot to undermine any serious criticism of his Presidency. You may as well have been paid by the DNC.

    Dude, it’s a meme.

  238. @Tiny Duck.
    You can call her “Michael Obama” all you want. She is epitome of beauty and none of you ugly white trash is worthy to touch this beautiful, big woman of color.

    She’s a BBWoman of Color!

  239. @Anonymous
    Is it possible '18 will be the last "omg Nazi Germany" election? This far into the social media era I don't see it staying viable any more to hyperventilate about the descending dark night of fascism, after the opposition party has elected & seated 40-plus new Congresspersons.

    Many professional libs who literally have no other vocabulary of politicking besides this, may be Hardest Hit -- but then again it could prove useful (adopting policy of Ix-nay on the Itler-hay) when your party's current heat all seems to go for getting rid of certain parts of the Constitution, abolishing the Senate, screaming about foreign interlopers, fighting every ballot count till you win and also removing judges, etc.

    The GOP will be painted as card-carrying Nazis from here on out. As will any white person who is not showing slavish devotion to the Cultural Marxist ideals.

  240. @Steve Sailer
    Michelle was Jesse Jackson's babysitter, so she had a fair amount of exposure to affluence. (I drove by Jesse's house in 1988 when he was running for president. It was a nice big house although not super luxurious. It seemed roughly appropriate for a man who could had some Presidential primaries.)

    Not sure what data fields IRS 990 forms were public information at that time. Jackson was compelled in 1984 to make financial disclosures which demonstrated Operation Push was paying him a six-figure salary. Given the changes in nominal employee compensation since 1984, a contextually similar sum today would be in excess of $400,000 per year, absurd for the philanthropic sector unless you’re running something like the Red Cross or New York University with real buildings and large payrolls to meet.

    I would assume she was employed to watch Jackson’s younger children, ca. 1980, and not all that often as they had three older siblings.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Given the changes in nominal employee compensation since 1984, a contextually similar sum today would be in excess of $400,000 per year, absurd for the philanthropic sector unless you’re running something like the Red Cross or New York University...
     
    Not to mention the Southern Poverty Law Center.
    , @Joe Stalin
    "Operation Push"

    I knew an IT person that occasionally worked at OP; they said that the organization would suffer from internal sabotage so it is an apparently dysfunctional organization.
  241. @Art Deco
    She's 80 years old, you knucklehead. Of course she isn't pretty anymore.

    She wasn’t pretty back then. Gloria Steinem otoh was attractive well into her middle age. She would’ve been a much better example for your contrarian point.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The quality referred to was femininity, not attractiveness. Gloria Steinem has been since 1954 a married woman for all of three years. She has no children. Her voice is deep and mannish. She favors trousers and if she owns a string of pearls, it's never been seen around her neck. She is not feminine.
  242. @Mr. Anon
    I heard (on FOX) that Michelle Obama is getting a $65 million advance for this book. Assuming a 15% royalty (which would be, I think, pretty generous), she would have to sell about 20 million books to earn what she has been advanced.

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama's ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama’s ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?

    Res Ipsa Loquitur

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    Will her book really sell 20 million copies?
     
    Res Ipsa Loquitur
     
    Caveat emptor might be more appropriate.
  243. @Dan Hayes
    kaganovitch:

    Thank you for your positive report on Jewish political attitudes in NYC. But I am wondering about the political orientation of the Orthodox. Would they necessarily be conservatives or even neoconservatives. Is there any data on their political orientation?

    Most of my interactions in NYC have been with secular or reform Jews who invariably are baying-at-the-moon leftists.


    .

    But I am wondering about the political orientation of the Orthodox. Would they necessarily be conservatives or even neoconservatives. Is there any data on their political orientation?

    There is a pretty good data set in the Pew report “A Portrait of Jewish Americans”. The Orthodox segment thereof is addressed here http://www.pewforum.org/2015/08/26/a-portrait-of-american-orthodox-jews/ . Orthodox Jews break down as roughly 2/3 Haredi (my community) and 1/3 Modern Orthodox. They are heavily concentrated in the Northeast ( %90 for Haredim , %60ish for M.O.). They vote Repub. around % 58 ( somewhat skewed by local elections ,as many local Dems in NYC bring home the (kosher!) bacon. In National elections I would guess, well over %60 Repub. based on 2016 precint data in Ortho neighborhoods in NYC (wall to wall Haredi Orthodox precints were %80-20 Trump). Re Conservatism , % 65 of Haredim identify as Politically Conservative vs % 40 of Modern Orthodox (Modern Orthodox much more likely to attend University which affects political orientation). “Orthodox Jews also are far more likely than other Jews to say that homosexuality should be discouraged by society, with more Haredi Jews (70%) than Modern Orthodox Jews (38%) saying this.” (from report).
    As I mentioned earlier % 75 percent of Jewish children in NYC are Orthodox (based on population breakdown and higher Haredi birthrate, well over % 50 would be Haredi). If israel is your bugaboo, though, no joy ,as support for Israel is very high among the Orthodox. (from report) “ Connection With and Attitudes Toward Israel
    The survey finds that 61% of Orthodox Jews say they are very emotionally attached to Israel, whereas 27% of other Jews say the same. And there are significant differences between Modern Orthodox Jews and Haredi Jews on views toward Israel. Broadly speaking, Modern Orthodox Jews display stronger attachment to Israel; they are more likely than Haredi Jews to say that they are very emotionally attached to Israel (77% vs. 55%), that caring about Israel is essential to being Jewish (79% vs. 45%) and that the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel (64% vs. 48%).
    ” The large Satmar and Satmar affiliated presence among Haredim (Satmar is theologically opposed to Israeli state) accounts for greater Modern Orthodox than Haredi support for Israel.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    kaganovitch:

    Sincere thanks for your long and fact-filled response. The situation (Jewish voting patterns) is much more positive than what I had originally thought.
  244. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    America is a hopeless case.
     
    No, it isn't. We will win this, and when we do, we will be sure to keep anyone with a '” Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.' profile as far from the levers of power as possible.

    “As far from the levers of power as possible”

    Now just why would you want to keep anyone such as myself, with my intelligence, a dyed in the wool conservative, and profound anti-leftist “as far from the levers of powers as possible”.

    You are severely misreading me, and you are holding a distorted viewpoint of what I stand for.

    AJM

  245. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Liberals. The Hasidim and modern orthodox do not think highly of the 0bamas, and they are a large percentage of Jews in NYC.

    The Hasidim and modern orthodox do not think highly of the 0bamas, and they are a large percentage of Jews in NYC.

    I just assumed that when I said “Every Jewish woman in New York City” it would be understood that meant secular or Reform, not Orthodox/Hasidim. Because if you mean Hasidim you say Hasidim (Hasidim, but I don’t like ‘em!) Maybe that’s a New York thing, but I would never think “Jews” encompassed both groups.

    Anyway, there’s not much in common between the secular Jews and the Orthodox Jews, other than both groups have tons of money and outsized political influence.

  246. @theMann
    I am curious - in the history of the World was there ever a "feminist Icon" who was at all feminine?

    Seriously, Feminists could make a freight train take a dirt road. ( Monthly "Eyebeam" reference.)

    Gloria Stenem and Naomi Wolf come to mind. They are both pretty good looking.

    Then of course there is……………………………..

    …………………………..yeah, well, you have a point.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Gloria Stenem and Naomi Wolf come to mind. They are both pretty good looking.
     
    Gloria Steinem might have looked good in a miniskirt to someone with delayed PTSD from WW2. Especially if she was standing by a colleague.

    But to the rest of us? C'mon. There were lots of nicer things to look at.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Germaine Greer was considered pretty hot by some people. Apparently, her debate with William F. Buckley on Firing Line was quite the pulse-raiser, in a nerdy way.

    https://iconicimages.net/app/uploads/2017/01/BW_GRE001.jpg

  247. @Mr. Anon
    I heard (on FOX) that Michelle Obama is getting a $65 million advance for this book. Assuming a 15% royalty (which would be, I think, pretty generous), she would have to sell about 20 million books to earn what she has been advanced.

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama's ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies?

    Every library and school in the US will buy a copy.

  248. @duncsbaby
    She wasn't pretty back then. Gloria Steinem otoh was attractive well into her middle age. She would've been a much better example for your contrarian point.

    The quality referred to was femininity, not attractiveness. Gloria Steinem has been since 1954 a married woman for all of three years. She has no children. Her voice is deep and mannish. She favors trousers and if she owns a string of pearls, it’s never been seen around her neck. She is not feminine.

  249. anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    I heard (on FOX) that Michelle Obama is getting a $65 million advance for this book. Assuming a 15% royalty (which would be, I think, pretty generous), she would have to sell about 20 million books to earn what she has been advanced.

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama's ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?

    Or is this just part of the Obama’s ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?

    That’s pretty much what I figure. Bribery in this day and age has progressed beyond the old grubby cash days. It’s done legally and according to gentlemen’s agreements whereby payment is delivered afterward, not beforehand, and there’s no reneging on payment. These people went to good schools and honor these understandings. That’s what they have lawyers for, to see that bribery is done via subterfuge and legally. Would Shakespeare receive $65M today?

  250. @Art Deco
    Not sure what data fields IRS 990 forms were public information at that time. Jackson was compelled in 1984 to make financial disclosures which demonstrated Operation Push was paying him a six-figure salary. Given the changes in nominal employee compensation since 1984, a contextually similar sum today would be in excess of $400,000 per year, absurd for the philanthropic sector unless you're running something like the Red Cross or New York University with real buildings and large payrolls to meet.

    I would assume she was employed to watch Jackson's younger children, ca. 1980, and not all that often as they had three older siblings.

    Given the changes in nominal employee compensation since 1984, a contextually similar sum today would be in excess of $400,000 per year, absurd for the philanthropic sector unless you’re running something like the Red Cross or New York University…

    Not to mention the Southern Poverty Law Center.

  251. @black sea

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama’s ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?
     
    Res Ipsa Loquitur

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies?

    Res Ipsa Loquitur

    Caveat emptor might be more appropriate.

  252. @Reg Cæsar

    Unless Trump does something *really* stupid, like invading Iran or privatizing Social Security
     
    Privatizing Social Security would be unpopular, but hardly stupid if done right. Chile did it, albeit under a dictator. They're not going back, are they?

    Telling the truth about SS-- it's basically AFDC for old folks-- would be disastrous. Everyone claims to have a claim on it, even though the Supreme Court nixed that when Obama was in diapers.

    SS fine.
    Reduce Pentagon from 5 wings to 2.
    SS gets 2
    Single Payer Health 1

    Homelandsecurity can sacrifice itself then disappear.

    All dollars,anything going to Israel, Yid entities go to SS and Single Payer.

    Country defended, healthy, happy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Let's compromise: make the "single payer" the Vatican.
  253. @Mr. Anon
    I heard (on FOX) that Michelle Obama is getting a $65 million advance for this book. Assuming a 15% royalty (which would be, I think, pretty generous), she would have to sell about 20 million books to earn what she has been advanced.

    Will her book really sell 20 million copies? Or is this just part of the Obama's ex-post-facto compensation package for services rendered?

    The reported advance is for books by both Michelle and Barack, so her true value will only be a fraction (10-15% maybe) of his.

  254. @Art Deco
    Frank Marshall Davis was known to be a chum of Stanley Dunham ca. 1971, when Obama was 10 years old.

    The Dunhams had lived in Honolulu for all of five months when BO Jr was conceived. At the time, Frank Marshall Davis lived 15 miles away from the Dunhams and ran a small company which distributed paper products. Other than random chance, he'd have had no occasion to cross paths with any of the Dunhams. Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham were both enrolled at the University of Hawaii. He was about 6 years her senior, and his wife was thousands of miles away. Frank Marshall Davis was 37 years her senior with a wife in residence.

    Frank Marshall Davis was 37 years [Stanley Dunham's] senior with a wife in residence.

    Yet it is undeniably FMD, semi-professional pornographer, who took the famous nude picture of Stanley Dunham.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    No, he was 37 years Ann Dunham's senior. He was 13 years Stanley Dunham's senior.


    Yet it is undeniably FMD, semi-professional pornographer, who took the famous nude picture of Stanley Dunham.

    There are no famous nude photos of Stanley Dunham or his daughter Ann. There are period magazine photos floating around the internet which have been identified by Ann Dunham (by people with nimble imaginations). That Davis was a pornographer is a common internet meme. Where it came from, who knows?


    It would be refreshing if people who keep making claims about Frank Marshall Davis would actually come up with a photograph, diary entry, or testimony from a bona fide period resident of Honolulu which would demonstrate that he'd met either Dunham by November 1960.
  255. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    America is a hopeless case.
     
    No, it isn't. We will win this, and when we do, we will be sure to keep anyone with a '” Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.' profile as far from the levers of power as possible.

    ” We will win this” : Just who is the “we” of this equasion? As far as the so-called “conservative” politicos are concerned : they are far too terrified of the “race card”, GS’s antifa armies burning down cities from coast to coast, and the superhuman “wrath” of the BC/HC/BO clique, to make any real efforts at turning this leftist pandemonia around.

    And you are really reading me, a dyed in the wool conservative, wrong.

    AJM

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    And you are really reading me, a dyed in the wool conservative, wrong.
     
    If you think America is a lost cause, then I am reading you right.

    We will win. The open question is how long it will take, and how much it will cost.

    America is far from a lost cause. I am not too sure about Europe, and the antipodes give me pause, but I am confident about our eventual victory.
  256. @Prester John
    "Hope springs eternal" and etc. However, she will be two years older by then--73 by my reckoning--all the while her party is being slowly taken over by the Ocasio-Lopez/Kamela Harris crowd. She will have to 1.) lay off the chardonnay and 2.) craft an image of being someone who is a lot more than the empty pants suit that so many in her own party perceive her to be. Neither scenario is likely. Then again, a lot of "experts" wrote off Nixon after '62 too so...we'll see.

    Ocasio-Lopez

    That would be Cortez, not Lopez

  257. @Redman
    Booker is not gay. I know that’s the rumor de jour, but it’s highly unlikely.

    I was good friends with someone in his first campaign for Newark mayor. They had more than a professional relationship. And she is white. Booker wouldn’t allow anyone to know they were dating for the obvious impact it would have on his campaign against Sharpe James, who was always labeling Booker as a fake black.

    Like Obama, I sense he prefers white women. But unlike Obama, he hasn’t married a black woman for political reasons. Yet.

    I think the gay rumors hurt him less. Since black women voters won’t accept that he only dates Beckys. Obama with a white wife would just be Harold Ford. And where is Ford these days?

    There were also rumors that Cory was involved with Anne Milgram, who was the New Jersey Attorney General under Jon Corzine. While Milgram is white, she doesn’t look like the stereotypical white woman that black men are interested in, i.e. Mrs. Clarence Thomas.

  258. @Harry Baldwin
    I had an old, short black lady ask me to reach something for her at the supermarket. She was polite and called me "young man." How can someone find offense in interactions like this?

    In case you aren’t being obtuse, generally speaking men are taller than women, so a woman asking a man to use his height to help her is flattering him. In the same vein, a woman asking a man to help her open a jar isn’t insulting him, but a man asking a particularly husky woman the same is insulting her.

  259. @tyrone
    Well she won't have to stand beside Carla Bruni any more ,that helps.

    How much does it help?

  260. @Mr. Anon
    It is remarkable - the stupid s**t that uncritical, unthinking people will believe. Michelle Obama is clearly a woman; there are lots of pictures of her as a young girl. You guys with your ridiculous theories - that Obama was born in Kenya, or that is wife is a dude - did a lot to undermine any serious criticism of his Presidency. You may as well have been paid by the DNC.

    Well I’d like you to be right, grasshopper, but you are not.

    But, on the bright side, your getting o% on the quiz beat the hell out of the other simpletons here who have scored a .2%

  261. i wonder what dirt ron has on steve.

    if none why would steve agree to become a peasant of the jew?

    steve = shabbos goy

    pathetic!

  262. @Anonymous

    Frank Marshall Davis was 37 years [Stanley Dunham's] senior with a wife in residence.
     
    Yet it is undeniably FMD, semi-professional pornographer, who took the famous nude picture of Stanley Dunham.

    No, he was 37 years Ann Dunham’s senior. He was 13 years Stanley Dunham’s senior.

    Yet it is undeniably FMD, semi-professional pornographer, who took the famous nude picture of Stanley Dunham.

    There are no famous nude photos of Stanley Dunham or his daughter Ann. There are period magazine photos floating around the internet which have been identified by Ann Dunham (by people with nimble imaginations). That Davis was a pornographer is a common internet meme. Where it came from, who knows?

    It would be refreshing if people who keep making claims about Frank Marshall Davis would actually come up with a photograph, diary entry, or testimony from a bona fide period resident of Honolulu which would demonstrate that he’d met either Dunham by November 1960.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    The possible confusion comes from the fact that Obama's grandfather and mother are both named Stanley.
  263. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Drfrt0aW4AMZTZt.jpg:large

    Projection. I almost feel sorry for him.

  264. @Mr. Anon
    Gloria Stenem and Naomi Wolf come to mind. They are both pretty good looking.

    Then of course there is...................................

    ................................yeah, well, you have a point.

    Gloria Stenem and Naomi Wolf come to mind. They are both pretty good looking.

    Gloria Steinem might have looked good in a miniskirt to someone with delayed PTSD from WW2. Especially if she was standing by a colleague.

    But to the rest of us? C’mon. There were lots of nicer things to look at.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Granted I'm not a guy, but I am used to assessing the competition. In her prime, she would have presented competition.


    https://assets.vogue.com/photos/592f21459216fe10f6c45031/master/pass/01-gloria-style.jpg

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/29/10/318DAB0300000578-3468553-image-m-10_1456741877292.jpg
  265. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Henry's Cat
    Didn't Michelle just reveal that the daughters were conceived via IVF? I don't know if that means she had something wrong with her eggs, or whether Obama was low on something.

    Poor sperm, or no sperm, from the husband would not be cause for IVF. Poor sperm can be concentrated, no sperm obviously requires a designated hitter be brought in.

    A lot of alt-right/conspiracy theory speculation on Michelle Obama is just that, speculation. Without access to her medical records, (which would be a federal beef and cost someone jail time in all likelihood) it just makes the perpetrator look ridiculous.

    The ascertainable facts about the Obamas are bad enough an indictment on the society that did elect them: the speculations just take away from those. (FWIW, I do believe it’s highly likely Frank Marshall Davis is BHOs real biological father, but without DNA proof, it’s just more speculation.)

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    (FWIW, I do believe it’s highly likely Frank Marshall Davis is BHOs real biological father, but without DNA proof, it’s just more speculation.)

    What makes it 'highly likely'? There were about 4,000 black males on Oahu in 1960 capable of impregnating a fertile woman. Why this chap and not someone with whom Ann Dunham was demonstrably acquainted?
  266. “Michelle possesses a perfectly natural liking for money, and she’s certain to get a lot of it.”

    On talk radio this morning they said tickets to her Chicago event were as high as $300; I checked the United Center ticket site this afternoon and it said the tickets were all gone. Amazing that there are enough Michelle O. fans willing to shell money out for that.

  267. @Authenticjazzman
    " We will win this" : Just who is the "we" of this equasion? As far as the so-called "conservative" politicos are concerned : they are far too terrified of the "race card", GS's antifa armies burning down cities from coast to coast, and the superhuman "wrath" of the BC/HC/BO clique, to make any real efforts at turning this leftist pandemonia around.

    And you are really reading me, a dyed in the wool conservative, wrong.

    AJM

    And you are really reading me, a dyed in the wool conservative, wrong.

    If you think America is a lost cause, then I am reading you right.

    We will win. The open question is how long it will take, and how much it will cost.

    America is far from a lost cause. I am not too sure about Europe, and the antipodes give me pause, but I am confident about our eventual victory.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    It breaks my heart but I see no way of coming out on top of this dilema. They, the leftist psychopaths, own the legal system, the media, the judicial system, the edumaction system, the medical field, the entertainment field, and on and on.
    The leftist teachers and perfessers, have managed in the schools and universities, to convince the youth that the Democrats, are "fair" and the Republicans are heartless greedy racists, who will take away are of the "rights" of minorities, gays, women, etc.
    I have been saying to no avail for years on end that the Republicans must wrest the "race card" away from them and begin throwing it back at them as relentless as they have been wielding it towards the Republicans for the last sixty years.
    The Republicans, aside from DT, simply do not want to fight this to the end, rather they have succumbed to the rediculous notion that the only way to get along with them, the leftists, it make (fruitless) concessions and every example of this being a fatal exercise in futility, simply go over their heads.

    AJM
  268. @Art Deco
    Not sure what data fields IRS 990 forms were public information at that time. Jackson was compelled in 1984 to make financial disclosures which demonstrated Operation Push was paying him a six-figure salary. Given the changes in nominal employee compensation since 1984, a contextually similar sum today would be in excess of $400,000 per year, absurd for the philanthropic sector unless you're running something like the Red Cross or New York University with real buildings and large payrolls to meet.

    I would assume she was employed to watch Jackson's younger children, ca. 1980, and not all that often as they had three older siblings.

    “Operation Push”

    I knew an IT person that occasionally worked at OP; they said that the organization would suffer from internal sabotage so it is an apparently dysfunctional organization.

  269. I too wish that Obama had concentrated on being a good provider. The country would be much better for it.

  270. @Anonymous
    Poor sperm, or no sperm, from the husband would not be cause for IVF. Poor sperm can be concentrated, no sperm obviously requires a designated hitter be brought in.

    A lot of alt-right/conspiracy theory speculation on Michelle Obama is just that, speculation. Without access to her medical records, (which would be a federal beef and cost someone jail time in all likelihood) it just makes the perpetrator look ridiculous.

    The ascertainable facts about the Obamas are bad enough an indictment on the society that did elect them: the speculations just take away from those. (FWIW, I do believe it's highly likely Frank Marshall Davis is BHOs real biological father, but without DNA proof, it's just more speculation.)

    (FWIW, I do believe it’s highly likely Frank Marshall Davis is BHOs real biological father, but without DNA proof, it’s just more speculation.)

    What makes it ‘highly likely’? There were about 4,000 black males on Oahu in 1960 capable of impregnating a fertile woman. Why this chap and not someone with whom Ann Dunham was demonstrably acquainted?

  271. @bjondo
    SS fine.
    Reduce Pentagon from 5 wings to 2.
    SS gets 2
    Single Payer Health 1

    Homelandsecurity can sacrifice itself then disappear.

    All dollars,anything going to Israel, Yid entities go to SS and Single Payer.

    Country defended, healthy, happy.

    Let’s compromise: make the “single payer” the Vatican.

  272. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    And you are really reading me, a dyed in the wool conservative, wrong.
     
    If you think America is a lost cause, then I am reading you right.

    We will win. The open question is how long it will take, and how much it will cost.

    America is far from a lost cause. I am not too sure about Europe, and the antipodes give me pause, but I am confident about our eventual victory.

    It breaks my heart but I see no way of coming out on top of this dilema. They, the leftist psychopaths, own the legal system, the media, the judicial system, the edumaction system, the medical field, the entertainment field, and on and on.
    The leftist teachers and perfessers, have managed in the schools and universities, to convince the youth that the Democrats, are “fair” and the Republicans are heartless greedy racists, who will take away are of the “rights” of minorities, gays, women, etc.
    I have been saying to no avail for years on end that the Republicans must wrest the “race card” away from them and begin throwing it back at them as relentless as they have been wielding it towards the Republicans for the last sixty years.
    The Republicans, aside from DT, simply do not want to fight this to the end, rather they have succumbed to the rediculous notion that the only way to get along with them, the leftists, it make (fruitless) concessions and every example of this being a fatal exercise in futility, simply go over their heads.

    AJM

  273. @Tiny Duck.
    You can call her “Michael Obama” all you want. She is epitome of beauty and none of you ugly white trash is worthy to touch this beautiful, big woman of color.

    “You can call her “Michael Obama” all you want. She is epitome of beauty and none of you ugly white trash is worthy to touch this beautiful, big woman of color.”

    Tiny Dick has been smitten ever since Michael Obama bent him over.

  274. @kaganovitch
    But I am wondering about the political orientation of the Orthodox. Would they necessarily be conservatives or even neoconservatives. Is there any data on their political orientation?

    There is a pretty good data set in the Pew report "A Portrait of Jewish Americans". The Orthodox segment thereof is addressed here http://www.pewforum.org/2015/08/26/a-portrait-of-american-orthodox-jews/ . Orthodox Jews break down as roughly 2/3 Haredi (my community) and 1/3 Modern Orthodox. They are heavily concentrated in the Northeast ( %90 for Haredim , %60ish for M.O.). They vote Repub. around % 58 ( somewhat skewed by local elections ,as many local Dems in NYC bring home the (kosher!) bacon. In National elections I would guess, well over %60 Repub. based on 2016 precint data in Ortho neighborhoods in NYC (wall to wall Haredi Orthodox precints were %80-20 Trump). Re Conservatism , % 65 of Haredim identify as Politically Conservative vs % 40 of Modern Orthodox (Modern Orthodox much more likely to attend University which affects political orientation). "Orthodox Jews also are far more likely than other Jews to say that homosexuality should be discouraged by society, with more Haredi Jews (70%) than Modern Orthodox Jews (38%) saying this." (from report).
    As I mentioned earlier % 75 percent of Jewish children in NYC are Orthodox (based on population breakdown and higher Haredi birthrate, well over % 50 would be Haredi). If israel is your bugaboo, though, no joy ,as support for Israel is very high among the Orthodox. (from report) " Connection With and Attitudes Toward Israel
    The survey finds that 61% of Orthodox Jews say they are very emotionally attached to Israel, whereas 27% of other Jews say the same. And there are significant differences between Modern Orthodox Jews and Haredi Jews on views toward Israel. Broadly speaking, Modern Orthodox Jews display stronger attachment to Israel; they are more likely than Haredi Jews to say that they are very emotionally attached to Israel (77% vs. 55%), that caring about Israel is essential to being Jewish (79% vs. 45%) and that the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel (64% vs. 48%).
    " The large Satmar and Satmar affiliated presence among Haredim (Satmar is theologically opposed to Israeli state) accounts for greater Modern Orthodox than Haredi support for Israel.

    kaganovitch:

    Sincere thanks for your long and fact-filled response. The situation (Jewish voting patterns) is much more positive than what I had originally thought.

  275. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic: Miriam Adelson will receive the US Medal of Freedom.

    She is cited for supporting "Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, etc".

    How is this nobody being honored in contrast to other heavy-hitter honorees (Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, et al)?

    If Trump wanted to honor her bag man husband Sheldon, he should have gone right to the source!

    Who?

  276. @Reg Cæsar

    Gloria Stenem and Naomi Wolf come to mind. They are both pretty good looking.
     
    Gloria Steinem might have looked good in a miniskirt to someone with delayed PTSD from WW2. Especially if she was standing by a colleague.

    But to the rest of us? C'mon. There were lots of nicer things to look at.

    Granted I’m not a guy, but I am used to assessing the competition. In her prime, she would have presented competition.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  277. @Mr. Anon
    Gloria Stenem and Naomi Wolf come to mind. They are both pretty good looking.

    Then of course there is...................................

    ................................yeah, well, you have a point.

    Germaine Greer was considered pretty hot by some people. Apparently, her debate with William F. Buckley on Firing Line was quite the pulse-raiser, in a nerdy way.

  278. @Art Deco
    No, he was 37 years Ann Dunham's senior. He was 13 years Stanley Dunham's senior.


    Yet it is undeniably FMD, semi-professional pornographer, who took the famous nude picture of Stanley Dunham.

    There are no famous nude photos of Stanley Dunham or his daughter Ann. There are period magazine photos floating around the internet which have been identified by Ann Dunham (by people with nimble imaginations). That Davis was a pornographer is a common internet meme. Where it came from, who knows?


    It would be refreshing if people who keep making claims about Frank Marshall Davis would actually come up with a photograph, diary entry, or testimony from a bona fide period resident of Honolulu which would demonstrate that he'd met either Dunham by November 1960.

    The possible confusion comes from the fact that Obama’s grandfather and mother are both named Stanley.

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