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Neymar’s official 2014 picture

Neymar Jr., the star of the Brazilian national soccer team who was severely injured by a knee to the back by a Colombian player in a World Cup quarterfinal, has been doing a Sammy Sosa in recent years.

To the left is the wealthy Neymar of 20014, with his current Orange County skate punk look.

Neymar 2009

And to the right is Neymar in a 2009 blog post.

Yeah, it’s really him. Here’s another picture from 2009 below left.

South Americans spend a lot of money on hair straightening, skin lightening, plastic surgery, colored contact lenses, make-up, and who know what else. Much of their effort is devoted to transracialism. And they’ve gotten quite good at it.

The old young Neymar Jr.

As I’ve been pointing out for many years, the widespread assumption you see all the time in the American press that whiteness is tainted and uncool is not shared by the Third World.

Women in Latin America, Asia, and Africa spend extravagantly on skin lighteners.

The basic reason for this was explained by Peter Frost: the untanned skin of women is on average about 10% fairer than of their own brothers. So, fairness is linked in the popular mind to femininity, just as, say, long hair is (women’s hair apparently grows longer when uncut than men’s hair on average).

That’s why the poets went on and on about “the fair sex.”

Hard to tell what Neymar III will look like

They certainly weren’t of the opinion that women were more fair in their behavior. But before people had much exposure to major racial differences in color, they were more cognizant than we are of minor sexual differences in color.

Back in 2000 in VDARE, I raised one of the most fundamental yet mysterious questions about Mexico (and all of Latin America): after a half-millennium of interracial mating, why are white people still on top? Why is their so much correlation between racial looks and social class?

After almost twenty generations of intermarriage between whites and Indians, Mexico has ended up with an almost wholly white elite, a vast mixed race (mestizo) working class, and at least 10 million extremely impoverished pure Indians who have never assimilated into Hispanic culture. And the ruling class is becoming ever whiter. How did this happen? And what does it portend for America`s dream of colorblind equality? …

I`ll follow Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs & Steel: The Fates of Human Societies) in stipulating that the conquistadors won solely because by luck they had the guns, germs, and steel on their side, and that the only reason they had superior technology was because Spain was less isolated than Mexico.

Neymar III and Neymar Jr.

Now, imagine a conquistador and his Indian woman have two sons in the 1520s. These two mestizo brothers grow up and go out in the world to seek their fortunes. One is smarter, and he strikes it rich. The other wasn`t so lucky in the genetic lottery, and he becomes poor. The rich son has a wide variety of potential wives to choose from. Like most men, and like almost all Mexican men, he is more attracted to blonde women, and thus marries one. (If you aren`t familiar with the depths of Mexico`s blonde obsession, try watching Spanish-language TV shows. Almost all the women on Mexican TV look like Finns.) His impoverished brother, in contrast, cannot attract a blonde wife. So he marries an Indian girl.

Then, the brothers have children. On average, the smarter, richer brother`s kids, who are 3/4 white, are smarter than their underprivileged 1/4 white cousins. They`re smarter not because they are whiter, but because their father had more smartness genes than their uncle. This trend continues: in both families, the smartest, most energetic, and most ruthless sons marry the blondest wives, while the blondest daughters marry the husbands with the most Right Stuff. Repeat for another dozen and a half generations. By 2000, this pattern could lead to the most European-looking people being the most naturally formidable, even if they weren`t when they arrived in 1519.

Now, in Mexico every century or so, there is a massive upheaval like the Revolution of 1910. The white monopoly is fractured. Up through the cracks come the most talented mestizos and Indians. They start dynasties that persist to this day … but their grandsons and great-grandsons are notably whiter than they were, since the men of the family have been exploiting their social ascendancy to marry white women.

Sammy Sosa, before & after

On an American note: like I’ve been saying, the political conventional wisdom that the Obama Coalition of cool Americans united under black leadership in their mutual revulsion against the awfulness of white men only sounds sensible if you’ve been thoroughly indoctrinated in The Narrative.

Still, to North Americans, a guy spending a lot of money to look whiter looks kind of gay, as ex-slugger Sammy Sosa proved when he got into his wife’s cosmetics cabinet.

 
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  1. nah, he just had his hair straightened out like many black women.

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  2. It’s something I’ve noticed myself with my wife’s family. Her mother is Filipino-Hawaiian, and will gladly talk smack about white people (and all other groups). But, it was interesting when our son came out looking like me, with pale skin, blonde hair and blue eyes. She was infatuated. I realized then that many PoC may hate us quite a bit, but they still want to be/look like us for whatever reasons.

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    White womanhood is still seen as the ideal, at least physically. It’s not considered uncool or “selling out” for black men to chase after white women or for black women to try to Europeanize their appearance, which is almost universal among younger black women.

    Black men are fetishized in white countries, though, so you see them trying to emphasize their black features if anything. The same doesn’t seem to be true in the rest of the world.

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  4. The mother of Neymar’s son is White and Neymar’s son can pass for White as well, the mother’s genes were stronger than Neymar’s genes when it comes to the boy’s phenotype.

    Neymar’s new girlfriend also looks like a Portuguese Conquistador Brazilian. Something tells me Neymar is not attracted to women who look like Michelle Obama.

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  5. Judging from the photos, Neymar seems to have a higher calibre “aesthetician.”

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  6. Anonymous:”Black men are fetishized in white countries, though, so you see them trying to emphasize their black features if anything. ”

    Not sure about that. The Black american fetish for shaving the head, for example. That seems to function as a method for coping with Black hair.

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  7. Thanks.

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  8. “Still, to North Americans, a guy spending a lot of money to look whiter looks kind of gay.”

    I remember in 1990s when I was still in high school, I heard some Brothas saying Dennis Rodman was acting like a Homo for dying his hair blond.

    Many males associate dying your hair blond as a feminine thing to do because most people who dye their hair blond are women.

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  9. The Black american fetish for shaving the head, for example. That seems to function as a method for coping with Black hair.

    Vin Diesel is a case in point. He is clearly of racially mixed background, with his father, whom he never met, apparently having been a dark-skinned Dominican mulatto. Diesel began shaving his head very early in his acting career to keep his appearance ambiguous as possible, thereby enabling him to play parts written for any race.
    A photo of a 20-ish Diesel, from an instructional break dancing video, makes it fairly clear that before he shaved his head he looked much more black, certainly not able to play white characters.

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  10. “Vin Diesel is a case in point. He is clearly of racially mixed background, with his father, whom he never met, apparently having been a dark-skinned Dominican mulatto. Diesel began shaving his head very early in his acting career to keep his appearance ambiguous as possible, thereby enabling him to play parts written for any race.
    A photo of a 20-ish Diesel, from an instructional break dancing video, makes it fairly clear that before he shaved his head he looked much more black, certainly not able to play white characters.”

    Because Vin Diesel stays bald and does not let his nappy hair grow, he sometimes gets cast to play Italian roles. He certainly would have never been cast in any Italian roles if he let the true texture of his hair grow out.

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    Could be. Certainly he works hard on getting and keeping that good hair. Here is another early pic:

    http://media-cdn.incondicionais.com.br/media/wiki/118/5/1/3/0/b_20100913074547_neymar_da_silva_santos_junior_neymar.jpg

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  12. All of this is an outgrowth of white privilege

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  13. Pete Wentz of Fallout Boy is known for his classic emo style hair. Little did some people (read: me) know that Wentz is a Gladwell American who straightens his hair to look the part.

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  14. So, what letter would you assign to the coming war fought on behalf of the transracial community to protect them from cis-racial micro-aggressions? Naturally, it would only be for those who want to go from light to dark, not – heaven forbid! – vice versa. World War M(elanin)?

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  15. In Brazil, I was always admonished: we don’t think about race the way you do in the USA. But my instincts, experiences and personal anecdata led me to understand that skin color is very important in Brazil. There are more facets to the issue than in America; it’s not a binary thing as we have.

    Eu te amo o Brasil! I’m a Kraut by blood, but I want Brazil to win tomorrow :)

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  16. Diesel also looks surprisingly like Jerry Seinfeld in facial expressions.

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  17. Still, to North Americans, a guy spending a lot of money to look whiter looks kind of gay.

    It could be because North America is more northern European, and thus the white men are more blond and red headed. Whereas in Latin countries, the white men are brunets and relatively darker. So trying to look white in Latin countries doesn’t mean trying to look as fair as it might in North America.

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  18. I remember in 1990s when I was still in high school, I heard some Brothas saying Dennis Rodman was acting like a Homo for dying his hair blond.

    If you recall, Rodman was acting like a homo at the time. He would cross-dress, wear makeup, act effeminately, etc. On the court he was notorious for grabbing opposing players’ privates and buttocks while playing defense.

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  19. Syon: Judging from the photos, Neymar seems to have a higher calibre “aesthetician.”

    He sure has. He should give his aesthetician’s number to Sosa, who looks downright freaky, like a photographic negative come to life.

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  20. On the court he was notorious for grabbing opposing players’ privates and buttocks while playing defense.

    Another reason, no doubt, for basketball’s popularity with the white beta-male fanboy crowd.

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  21. Neymar’s mother has gone through a similar whitening and plastic surgery revolution in her appearance. To a lesser extent, his current girlfriend has too.

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  22. “”””””It’s not considered uncool or “selling out” for black men to chase after white women”””””””””””””””

    Yes it is, of course it is. It is to black women. Oops. Forgot about them, as most males tend to.

    Black women really don’t like that. Think about it from their perspective. Of the two, its black women who won’t be in jail and its mostly black women who are better employable. Therefore, from their perspective, the few black men who are part of the ‘talented tenth’ so to speak and actually have their life/act together,….and they go for another person?

    Nope. They really DONT like that sort of thing. Obviously you’ve never read their blogs about the subject, it is a verrrrry touchy subject.

    This is actually been a sub-theme in some black themed films of the 90s and 00s that are more black female oriented/marketed. One of their grievances/stresses etc is “will our men go for us or will they….sell us out?”

    And you really DONT see black women consciously trying to land a white dude. You can name examples, but nowadays its the other way that is much much much more commonplace. Wonder why that is?

    Donald Sterling: Either thought he really was dating a part-Mexican or part-Philipino, or maybe at 80, the ol’ Viagra is finally not working as well as it did ten yrs ago and he has to take what he can get (at his age).

    It could also be that the majority of blacks going for other women are also social status climbers cause let’s face it: Most blacks are born out of wedlock (ca. 74% as of 2014 and it will climb to about 90% by ca.2029). Out of wedlock, according to the Bell Curve is part of other sociopathic behaviors that don’t correlate well to success in life.

    Therefore it could be that some are perceptive and figure if they get in with that type of person, they’ll move up and out of the ‘hood.

    Btw, Steve. Lionel Messi still looks the same from 2009. Messi sounds Italian, actually. Wonder if he isn’t ethnically an Italian? If that’s the case, shame he didn’t choose to play for Italy.

    Facially speaking, Messi kinda sorta looks a bit like a youngish Rocky Balboa.

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  23. Shiite.

    Trans-racialism.

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  24. Another reason, no doubt, for basketball’s popularity with the white beta-male fanboy crowd.

    Basketball is least popular among whites and has been declining in popularity among whites.

    Among whites, those most into basketball tend to be SWPL types, who tend to hate football and prefer basketball over it. These same SWPLs tend to like soccer.

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    “””””””””””Among whites, those most into basketball tend to be SWPL types, who tend to hate football and prefer basketball over it. These same SWPLs tend to like soccer.”””””””””””””””””

    No no. SWPL don’t like NBA either. They hate the NFL and will definitely go for Soccer and a niche sport (e.g. Rugby, Lacrosse, etc). They may like the NCAA tournament and collegiate sports as they’re “untainted” by professionalism and thus more authentically a sport.

    Remember, SWPL generally are upper classes; they aren’t looking for the hood experience in their living room anytime soon.

    Actually, the only whites you do see enjoying the NBA are…you know, the term. Those whites who think they’re from the hood. They like rap music, etc. In the film Barbershop, there was a white character who worked at the black barbershop and actually thought that, like, he was black or something. Had a black girlfriend, dressed and talked black etc. It’s like…What reality is that based on? He wasn’t even an Hispanic or something so where’d that come out of? But, it is after a movie and not all films are reality based.

    Eminem. That type will definitely like the NBA. But still, there aren’t that many of them around (non-Hispanic whites thinking that they’re actually black) and certainly not as they age.

    SWPLs may even go for MMA, UFC, or even the NHL.

    Be interesting to see which niche sport draws bigger ratings the NBA or the NHL. Something says that among whites, its the NHL. But even that sport is still nowhere near NFL, NCAA, MLB or even PGA.

    Starting to wonder if sports are becoming more and more segregated by personal preferences, viewing choices.

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  27. If Brazil wins the World Cup and Neymar ends up having a bucket of Gatorade dumped on his head, he will probably look like the Wicked Witch in the Wizard Of Oz. But rather than melting, his hair will revert back to its natural kink. Aaargh my Pretties. I’m melting!

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  28. “And you really DONT see black women consciously trying to land a white dude. You can name examples, but nowadays its the other way that is much much much more commonplace. Wonder why that is?”

    Because black women are in the sub-basement of sexual and mate worth, and so they know that white men, who are near the top of mate worth (exceeded only by white women), have near zero interest in them. Some white women suffering from ugliness, low self-esteem, mild mental retardation, and/or unresolved resentment toward their fathers will miscegenate with black men, but no such pathology mechanism exists that would bring white men and black women together.

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  29. Gulen song

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  30. So, what happens in the future when the race of children can be assigned before birth? How many People of Color will choose to have children who look like themselves as opposed to looking like Sandra Dee and Troy Donahue? This is a serious question. If the White genome becomes just another program to be assigned at will how many people of the future will voluntarily adopt it?

    On the other hand, how many Hollywood celebutards will opt for low IQ africanoid offspring?

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  31. If I were Neymar, I’d have a paternity test done before I coughed up the money to support that kid.

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  32. Matt Yglesias is an NBA fan.

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  33. Neymar is out for the rest of the tournament with a cracked vertebrae.

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  34. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/07/03/Ingraham-Time-for-Mass-Deportations-by-the-Thousands-End-Birthright-Citizenships

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  35. David Bowie, Robert DeNiro, the late Sidney Lumet would hardly rate in my book as “losers” but rather life’s winners. And they all chose VERY Black women. Italian guys are notorious for their pursuit of Black women.

    And I think many here, sorry Steve yourself included, are missing the point.

    In Latin countries, the elite is self-evidently White, as you noted this is sustained by up and coming climbers like say, Manuel Noriega marrying some very White girl and having kids with her; each successive elite generation becomes Whiter and less Indio even assuming regular Chavistas storming the Presidential Palace.

    In this country, there is an ETERNAL WAR AMONG WHITE PEOPLE. Unlike Latin America where Whites do not make war upon themselves, here in this country the most definitely do. SWPL emo types loving soccer detest your average NASCAR fan (which dwarfs pretty much all sports but the NFL *maybe* in viewership and attendance) and vice versa.

    The conventional wisdom of the Cool Black guy leading the revolt against the Ugly/Icky White guy is based on CLASS. Which is reinforced by feminism (that in turn amplifies women’s innate desire for princes and aristocracy) and the desire of White elites to mark themselves as different as possible from the kind of guys who find Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable guy funny.

    In Latin America, class mobility means becoming White. No wonder guys like Sosa do what they do. In America, class mobility means rebelling AGAINST WHITES. So no wonder Obama is President. And able pretty much to do whatever he wants. Like flood the US with Latin Americans.

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  36. The poor guy thought he was paralyzed for life while he was lying on the field after getting intentionally kneed.

    The World Cup always seems to bring out these unfortunate incidents, like Luis Suarez biting some guy. But they have a long way to go to top Zinedine Zidane headbutting the Italian guy and getting thrown out of a tied Final game. That was great!

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  37. “Her mother is Filipino-Hawaiian”

    I can’t speak for Hawaiians, but I’ve found that actual Filipinos are probably the most pro-European group in Asia. They much prefer being associated with the West as opposed to the Orient.

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  38. the widespread assumption you see all the time in the American press that whiteness is tainted and uncool is not shared by the Third World.

    Let’s not go overboard. As far as men are concerned the same “cool look” rules from Brazil to Mexico City to Calcutta to Berlin to New York, and that would be precisely the Naymar tan-skinned “racially ambiguous” look. It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond like German star Andre Schürrle. And being a ginger, “the whitest of the white”, is uncool everywhere, and it is socially acceptable, apparently, to mock them in the media (See Dalton, Andy). At the same time, being a true Subsaharan dark black is not considered attractive anywhere either, not even in the PC USA. All the major black male stars are some variation of “high yellow”. Just as blonde white women are the most attractive in any culture, a tanned mediterranean looking man is the most attractive in any culture – it’s just that in Brazil or India that look is lighter than the dominant population, in Germany or US it’s darker than the dominant population.

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  39. http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-decline-and-fall-of-islam.html

    Saudis are doing pretty good.

    Iran would be doing a lot better if not for US-led sanctions at the behest of Zionists.

    Iraq was destroyed by Gulf War, sanction, and US invasion.

    Libya would have been quickly stabilized under Gaddafi, but French Zionists led the way to smash that nation thru military intervention.

    US and Israel(working with Saudis) have poured aid into Syria to foment civil war there.

    So, the problem isn’t only Islam. It’s US and EU neo-imperialist policy of endless intervention at the behest of Zionist elites.

    Bot, oh how convenient to just blame Islam.

    If US and EU isolated and forced sanctions on Israel, it would be a basket case too.

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  40. “Hard to tell what Neymar III will look like.”

    A quadroon?

    The picture of him holding his son reminds me of those Spanish “castas” images.

    Ex: “Una rubia con un mulato rinde un albino morisco”

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  41. It’s called jealousy.

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  42. Actually, the only whites you do see enjoying the NBA are…you know, the term. Those whites who think they’re from the hood.

    Tell us more about your planet; so much like ours, yet with these curious little inversions.

    See, here on Earth they actually televise the games, and one can see the seats, many prohibitively expensive, filled by mostly white fans, many who appear to be of substantial means. Also our SWPLs, unlike yours, are a little more desperate to prove they’re not threatened or offended by “ghetto” culture. Indeed, they very much want that experience in their safely remote living rooms (or an arena with ample security and all that ghetto vibrancy confined to the playing field/court).

    Be interesting to see which niche sport draws bigger ratings the NBA or the NHL.

    This may be arcane information on your planet but here we have the Internet… The NBA playoffs crushed the NHL in television ratings this year (some SWPL shadenfreude was on display when it was gleefully reported that one NHL game finished behind ‘Spongebob Squarepants’) . But the NHL still has a higher SES fan base. From the SWPL point of view of course this is unforgivable evidence of whiteness. Forbes:

    According to league data, the average household income (HHI) for NHL fans is $104,000, highest of the four major sports with Major League Baseball ($96,200), the NBA ($96,000), and the NFL ($94,500). Sixty-eight percent of NHL fans have attended college, more than the other three sports (ranging 60.4 percent to 63.6 percent). And 64 percent of NHL fans hold full-time jobs, also more than the others (57-58.1 percent).

    Holding down jobs? Earning money? You know what that means; check out the opening paragraph of this article, written by an Irish-surnamed SWPL:

    People who think of themselves exclusively as hockey fans, that is to say, they don’t watch the NBA for “reasons,” were jumping through the roof earlier this year when news broke that 15 NHL franchises sold out every game this season. Bravo.

    “reasons” should be read with the same suspicious tone in the old, pre-pc laundry detergent commercial: “…ancient Chinese secret huh…?”

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  43. Why would you marry into a family like that? Don’t you realize what that says about your wife? It means your marriage is based upon a woman wanting to be you, not be with you. It’s too sick to fathom.

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  44. Hold up People….

    Asians don’t want to be white. They want to do to white society what they have done to Malaysian or Thai or whatever society. They want to create a mixed race upper-class from which they can more easily subjugate the remaining whites.

    Asian women going after white men to create a mixed race caste from which pure asians can exercise overt control is just the Asian version of Jewish hypocrisy…both methods are designed to get one race above the other.

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  45. “Among whites, those most into basketball tend to be SWPL types, who tend to hate football and prefer basketball over it. These same SWPLs tend to like soccer.”

    I know a lot of whites who like the NBA, and none of them are SWPLs or beta boys. But I will say this; other than their hometown team, if you ask them what team they enjoy watching the most, they will all say the San Antonio Spurs. Of course, the Spurs are known for playing more “White”, I.e. more team-oriented basketball, and their two main stars – Duncan and Parker – are about as far-removed from American ghetto black culture as you can get. Conversely, at my office, every black person I knew was pulling for the Heat.

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    Just as blonde white women are the most attractive in any culture,

    Not necessarily true. In India, having any hair color other than black makes one look and feel like a freak. Light-skinned women with dark hair are the most prized here. Bollywood movies keep seeking such women out regardless of their acting talent.

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  47. “It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond ”

    Ah, that would explain the success of people like Ryan Gosling, Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, David Beckham, Paul Walker, etc etc etc

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  48. “Just as blonde white women are the most attractive in any culture”

    I don’t think a preference for yellow hair is as innate and universal as one for slightly lighter (than men of the same ethnicity) skin. I think that’s some Nordic solipsism going on there, as I don’t know any man who prefers blonds. Pale brunettes seem to be the big favorite around here. (I’m raven-haired and olive-tanned, which is preferred by nobody. LOL)

    To the original post:

    He’s obviously had some work done, but black people also get more European-looking as they age: longer noses, thinner lips, paler skin, thinner and staighter hair.

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  49. Some guy:

    There’s a level of gorgeous where coloring becomes irrelevant. Any discussion of preferences involves the unspoken rule: all other things being the same.

    I have a thing for light-haired guys, but I’m definitely in the minority.

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  50. White guys who are or were good basketball players also like the NBA. Ever notice that?

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  51. A family like Neymar’s in Brazil (black father/white mother), is quite atypical and rare in Brazil. My family is like that and it’s extremely rare in Brazil. Brazil is actually the whitest country in terms of genetics because often it involved (and still involves) white fathers (illegitimacy, prostitution).

    I’m a mixed-raced girl who speaks Portuguese and has some affiliations with Brazil, so I’m constantly ashamed at the lies that the average American believes about Brazil.

    Brazil generally speaks Portuguese with little holdover from distinctive linguistic tribal languages and it’s ethnic demographics vary by region. Brazil is mostly Roman Catholic with 65% of the population (22% Protestant, 8% irreligious/non-religious).

    As a whole Brazil is 45% white Caucasian/Branco (white immigrants from Portugal, Italy, Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Syria, Lebanon), 45% mixed-raced/Pardo (children from male colonial conquistadores and their Amerindian/Black female slaves), 2% Asian (Japanese and Taiwanese Chinese immigrants) and 7.5% Black African (Negro) and 0.5% Amerindian.

    Black ancestry in Brazil typically came from Angola (Southwest Africa, very near Namibia and South Africa) and Mozambique (East Africa), so it’s more Southern and Eastern black, it’s rarely West African.

    They wouldn’t know that the average Brazilian has excessive Y-Chromosome white male lead
    miscegenation (90-95%), making the average mixed raced person about 70-80% White Caucasian and the average white person (who looks white) to be around 90-100% white Caucasian in ancestry (lots of descendants from immigrants).

    I have compared pictures of Brazilians to their autosomal results on various Human Biodiversity websites. The thing is that for a Brazilian person to look “white”, that person has to cross the 90% white line and be at least consistently 95% white because Sub-Saharan African mixture is that stubborn.

    In general, Brazil is a 2nd world country with a working class to lower-middle class atmosphere, and it’s not the 3rd world as some would imagine it. Remember that there is a huge difference between the North and the North-East. Favelas are only 12 million, or 6% of the Brazilian population. They’re the most violently crime-ridden.

    The poor favela people you see in major Southeastern cities such as Rio de Janeiro or São Paulo were all originally from the Northeast. They moved from the Northeast to the Southeast and started ruining the place thanks to international leftist NGOs.

    Since Brazilian population is estimated to be 200 million, 16 million (North) is just about 8% of the country (lowest density population), so the infamous notoriety should be with the North-East (50 million) in reality.

    The rest of the population is into non-violent crime such as stealing, or trafficking, and prostitution. Prostitution whitens the populace further and that explains why Brazil has a 66% illegitimacy (cohabitation rate).

    By living standards and Human Development Index (HDI):

    Northeast – HDI 0.653 or Medium
    North – HDI 0.683 or Medium
    Center-West – HDI 0.753 or High
    Southeast – HDI 0.753 or High
    South – HDI 0.756 or High

    Socialism/Welfare transfers don’t work in Brazil because it’s a caste society with different ethnic and SES groups, so most people tend to be more local/regional and look out for their own. In addition, despite the 66% Brazilian illegitimacy rates, most practice cohabitation and live with their biological fathers/mothers, as well as the extended family such as uncles, aunts, cousins and others.

    The legalization of abortion in Brazil was because of “women right’s” in law, but the truth on the ground is that it will be mostly used for eugenic reasons (poverty, skin color, caste, economics), or the occasional relationship reasons such as infidelity/adultery.

    Prostitution in Brazil involves mostly the mixed-raced middle-class and a lot of white male (and to a lesser extent Asian) clients. This increases the illegitimacy rate somewhat (remember there’s no social/wealth transfers in Brazil and idiocy such as child support enforced nor widely believed).

    Prostitution is a middle-class practice in Brazil and present in all regions, but it affects the lowly populated areas first, meaning the North (16 million) and Center-West (14 million) regions suffer the most impact.

    The average mixed-raced girl tends to look anything between actresses such as Ildi Silva (70% European), Juliana Paes (80% European) and Adriana Lima (90% European). The average white girl in Brazil is as white as Ana Hickmann and Gisele Bunchden (90 to 100% European). A lot of European predominance in the Brazilian population thanks to white males (both colonizers and immigrants) mostly having sex.

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  53. Sigh. This is not about black people trying to be white in the Anglo sense. No more than an Iranian going blonde is trying to become Nordic.

    This is because Latin America doesn’t have the one drop rule, so skin color isn’t as politicized. Asia and Africa are the same, people there consider skin lightening like tanning. In China and India, being mixed with white or having the light hair common to such mixed people, isn’t considered a good thing, whereas it’s different in Latin America.

    Non-Anglo people define race as ancestry and not as how you look. An African, Latin or Asian can usually trace his family, caste / lineage back hundreds of years. He gets his sense of racial identity from that.

    A Yoruba, Thai, Brazilian, Malay, Igbo, or any of the various Indian ethnic groups for example, is going to be that and usually proud no matter whether he changes his skin to white, his eyes to blue or his name to John Smith. He’s not confused, but the one-drop-rule adhering Anglo looking at him is, and projects that confusion onto the ethnic person.

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  54. I agree syon, if they’re not shaving their heads completely bald, their letting it grow for years, so that they may braid it. After braiding takes effect, they will flip their hair around like a blonde Barbie at the beach. Steve obviously doesn’t watch a lot of NFL games.

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  55. Head shaving is a method of coping with male pattern baldness. Michael Jordon started losing his hair in his mid-twenties, so rather than look 50 years old or like Friar Tuck, he went with the clean-shaven look, which can work for black men if your skull is the right shape. (See poor Michael Bradley of the US Men’s Soccer team) Vin Diesel and the rapper/actor LL Cool J adopted the same technique.

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  56. to North Americans, a guy spending a lot of money to look whiter looks kind of gay

    North Americans (actually just Americans) have some very, very peculiar ideas about race. This bizarre stuff about blackness being masculine and whiteness feminine is just the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately they are managing to spread those peculiar ideas to other countries due to their dominance in pop culture.

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  57. Good grief, Alcestis. My children look completely Celtic and they’re at least 20% African. Even I could “pass” as Spanish or Romanian. I don’t know where you get 90% from. Anything over 50% and it starts to get confusing, especially once aging sets in.

    You spend too much time reading dodgy sites. Sub-saharan genes are stubborn. *roll eyes*

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  58. Dave Pinsen said:

    “””””””””””Matt Yglesias is an NBA fan.”””””””””””””””””””

    And Ross Douthat and Jim Goad are NOT. Neither is Paul Kersey.

    BOOM

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  59. >>Steve Sailer said:
    “”””””””””The poor guy thought he was paralyzed for life while he was lying on the field after getting intentionally kneed.”””””””””””””””””

    What a wuss. He got kneed, boo hoo hoo. Yes, it is a tragic incident. Come on though. NFL injuries are thousand times more violent and occur on regular basis.

    Ever see 3 350lb DE’s tackle a RB and one of them land on his skull, and then get up and stomp on his head? That’s waaaay more violent.

    Remember Albert Haynesworth? When after someone scored a TD he went over and dug his spikes into the guy’s face?

    Soccer is a bit sissified; they truly have no idea (for the most part) about graphically violent injuries. If they did, they’d start wearing more protective gear.

    And even that doesn’t fully help in the NFL.

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  60. >>convenient bs, which is what this is said:
    “””””””If US and EU isolated and forced sanctions on Israel, it would be a basket case too.””””””

    Uh, no, they’d simply regroup and start trading with China and Russia.

    Like, duh.

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  61. For reference, this is my little black baby. LOL So much for Alcestis’ theory.

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  62. I took a class in Brazilian history in college and was taught that Brazil imported 10x the slaves US did, which more than all the rest of Americas combined.

    But most of the slaves were male, so they didn’t have kids, and so new slaves had to be procured via more slave trade.

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  63. Brazilian genetics basically involves prostitution with white people (white males in Brazil, white males from all corners of Europe, followed by East Asian male clients such as Japanese or Chinese), high rates of illegitimacy (cohabitation) and cosmetic surgery.

    That’s why the picture is less Michael Jackson (who looked like a usual Black American), and more in the style of Ildi Silva (quadroon), Juliana Paes (octoroon) and Adriana Lima (quintroon).

    It’s basically a mixed population whereby the average pardo is anything between 70% to 90% European and having sex with white people (mostly white males, who are 90-100% white Caucasian). Don’t forget that Brazilian black ancestry is mostly Southwestern (Angola) and Eastern (Mozambique), rarely West African.

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  64. The Brazilians worked them to death fast in the sugar fields. The sugar fields in Louisiana weren’t fun either, which is why Jim in “Huckleberry Finn” was always terrified of being sold down the river.

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  65. Actually, the only whites you do see enjoying the NBA are…you know, the term. Those whites who think they’re from the hood.

    Uyghurs?

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  66. “””””Tell us more about your planet; so much like ours, yet with these curious little inversions.”””””

    Yes, you forgot to mention the PGA, which also draws higher ratings than NBA (globally) and NASCAR which crushes the NBA (nationally) both of which are primarily white sports.

    “””””””””See, here on Earth they actually televise the games,”””””””””””””””””

    Of the 30 NBA teams, about 16-18 of them are annually in the red in attendance. This includes TV ratings which are down as well. It is starting to become a regional game.

    “”””””and one can see the seats, many prohibitively expensive, filled by mostly white fans, many who appear to be of substantial means.””””””””””””””””

    You just made my point. That’s the top 3-4% in income. For the other 95% of white sports fans, NBA isn’t on the top five list.

    The millennials (the white ones) aren’t going for the NBA. They’re going for more niche drive sports.

    MMA
    UFC
    Xgames
    and also
    NFL
    NASCAR

    and as they age, they’ll include some:
    NCAA

    Funny, I don’t see the NBA in that list.

    And its not just millennials. The baby boom and Gen X prefer some of those things and also PGA in higher numbers than NBA. Baby boomers still rally behind MLB more than the NBA in actual TV attendance.

    You really have to look at TV attendance since only the top 3-4% of white US can regularly attend games in person.

    FACT: The white proles aren’t slurping/gulping down on the NBA purple drank.

    “””””””Also our SWPLs, unlike yours, are a little more desperate to prove they’re not threatened or offended by “ghetto” culture.”””””””””””””

    Now that’s a lie. That is a lie. Do they LIVE near them? No, they don’t.

    BOOM

    “”””””This may be arcane information on your planet but here we have the Internet… The NBA playoffs crushed the NHL in television ratings this year (some SWPL shadenfreude was on display when it was gleefully reported that one NHL game finished behind ‘Spongebob Squarepants’) .

    “”””””But the NHL still has a higher SES fan base.””””””

    And thus a larger white audience, thank you! The NBA’s total number of white fans isn’t very large per se. What tends to mask it is the outrageous ticket prices, thus the only ones who can afford to attend the games in person are the top 3-4%, the vast majority of whom tend to be white.

    The white middle and lower classes do not follow the NBA as rabid sports fans. They tend to follow:

    NASCAR (funny how you forget to mention that sport. That one routinely trounces the NBA in national ratings as well as in attendance. Many stadiums that hold NASCAR events seat upwards of 90,000).

    MMA

    UFC

    Fort the SWPL’s (you DO realize that there simply aren’t that many of them when compared to the white proles, right? The real money for attendance and ratings will always be with the proles as in quantity. The quants aren’t watching or going to hoop games.)

    SWPL also like Soccer in larger or equivalent numbers to NBA. In fact, look to Soccer to surpass NBA among SWPLs by end of decade.

    Bottom line: NBA is becoming a “ghetto” sport in more ways than one.

    “””””””People who think of themselves exclusively as hockey fans, that is to say, they don’t watch the NBA for “reasons,” were jumping through the roof earlier this year when news broke that 15 NHL franchises sold out every game this season. Bravo.””””””””””

    MLS has a ways to go in this regard but it too is starting to make more and more headway.

    BOTTOM LINE: The NBA is a ghettoized sport. It’s not the future. Soccer could be. You could make the case that the NBA is more of a regional game (e.g. very popular among hoods in the South and other various regions. Attendance is a separate issue. If watch any major sport all you’ll see are white dudes since they’re the ones who can afford the season tickets.)

    Point of fact the NBA finals never finish very high in the ratings when compared to:

    The Super Bowl

    NCAA Tournament (NCAA sports remain one of the few sports that both white proles and SWPLs tend to enjoy)

    World Series (forgot that one, huh?)

    NASCAR (NBA doesn’t even come close in ratings natinonally).

    PGA majors

    This years WC on TV in America, a few of the games averaged a little over 20mil. about what the NBA finals average (at best).

    FACT: This years WC final will be witnessed in a stadium that can seat close to 200,000. That is roughly the same as annual average TV ratings in 16-18 NBA markets. In other words, one game alone for the most globally watched game equals what more than half the NBA markets (the ones at the bottom) average for their teams in ratings and that’s pitiful.

    Yes, there’s plenty of white folks in the crowds, and all are part of the top 3-4%. Aside from then, when there’s a clear choice to watch on TV ratings wise, the white proles (the other 96%) DONT watch the NBA in the numbers that they could if they truly liked the game.

    Actually, the bottom 16-18 NBA teams in attendance only average about 55-65% capacity or 7,000-14,000 in live attendance. That’s pitiful. In some MLS markets, (Seattle) they tend to average 16-20,000.

    Soccer may not be the future but it will definitely surpass the NBA in live attendance (starting to do that already) and TV ratings as well.

    NBA isn’t really a national game anymore; like soccer at present, it’s more of a regional game and the majority of its fan base is in the ghetto. They just can’t afford (for most part) to attend in person.

    Isn’t Spike Lee a good fan to bring in more white folks to watch the NBA?

    No?

    Wonder why not?

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  67. Ah, that would explain the success of people like Ryan Gosling, Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, David Beckham, Paul Walker, etc etc etc

    Yup. Sure, they are white, but other than Hemsworth none of them are particularly fair skinned, at least in public appearances. Beckham has brown hair and brown eyes. Even Paul Walker sported a conspicuous tan, and he was often slagged for being “the white guy” in the Fast & Furious franchise, at least in the US. It is cool to be white, but not too white. Again, Andy Dalton, QED.

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  68. “Brazilian genetics basically involves prostitution with white people (white males in Brazil, white males from all corners of Europe, followed by East Asian male clients such as Japanese or Chinese), high rates of illegitimacy (cohabitation) and cosmetic surgery.”

    You make sweeping assertions that have an air of authenticity to them because they are presented as if they are based on statistical data.

    Do you have any evidence for these claims, particularly the one about cosmetic surgery?

    How wide spread is “racial reassignment” cosmetic surgery in that country? It seems to me that in a place like Brazil, plastic surgery to make one significantly less African-looking is out of reach for most Brazilians financially, especially black ones.

    Also, prostitution doesn’t necessarily lead to pregnancies. There are such things as birth control, abortion, etc. Hence, it’s questionable that prostitution has had any significant impact on birth rates there or “whitening” of the population.

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  69. Between the disease ridden climate, the nature of the work and the inhumanity of the overseers, the mortality of Brazilian slaves was also much higher. Being a slave in the Southern US was bad enough, but it was a lot better than being an African slave in Brazil, Mexico, or Haiti.

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  70. There’s no way Adriana Lima is as white as you think. She refers to herself as an Afro-Latina, and that’s what she is.

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  71. Alcestis and I have been having this same convo for years and it never changes. We look quite similar, but I’m convinced that my African ancestry makes me more attractive, and she is convinced that hers makes her less attractive.

    And around and around we go…

    All I know is that no straight man would chew his own arm off to get away from one of us. LOL She needs to just get over it, so that guys don’t get turned off by her masochistic vibe.

    She’s so tiresomely tragic mulatta and everything she writes reflects that.

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  72. @Alte –

    Most mixed-raced Brazilians don’t call themselves “Afro-Latino”. That’s how international leftist NGOs tend to term them and it’s wrong. The great majority of mixed-raced people either call themselves “Pardos”, or something related to appearance such as pale skin, tanned skin or something else. They’re typically appearance focused.

    I’m just saying that black genetics are very difficulty to “whiten” (worse than Amerindian even) and for a person to look white, well the black genetics tend to be weak, even weaker than Amerindian genetics.

    A good comparison would be Jessica Alba, or Eva Longoria. Those two female actresses are mixed with Amerindian, and well Jessica Alba is 87% white Caucasian/13% Amerindian whereas Eva Longoria is 70% European/30% Amerindian.

    Somebody who is 70% white/30% black? Look at Brazilian actress Ildi Silva. She’s 70% white. Adriana Lima is probably 90% white (if not at least 80%). People will call me stupid but whenever I see a mixed people with “black ancestry” and he (or she) looks white Caucasian, then it’s probably because they’re >80% white.

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  73. @G-man -

    Do you have any evidence for these claims, particularly the one about cosmetic surgery?

    Brazil is appearance focused and there’s a lot of cosmetic surgery in Brazil.

    In addition, prostitution affects the North (16 million, 8 million would be women) and Center-West (14 million, 7 million would be women) regions the most due to their low density populations, but most wouldn’t realize that factor because the North-East (50 million) gets the most attention on international media (despite receiving the least impact in terms of numbers).

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  74. @Alte – Fine, I will concentrate more on big dogs, my love for Italian good and ballet dance when going on dates so I won’t scare them anymore with my creepy mulatta talks.

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  75. Brazil is the cosmetic surgery capital of the world. She’s right about that.

    It is creepy, Alcestis. Or, at least, excruciatingly nerdy. You think I droned on and on about my economics obsession on dates? Or bored them to tears with the history of the encyclicals? Men don’t want to hear that stuff. You walk up and they’re like, “OMG, is it my birthday?” and then you start in with that stuff and they start looking for an exit.

    Nerdy is good. Excruciatingly nerdy is not good. Calibrate.

    Men like to hear most about themselves, anyway. They want you to ask them questions and act fascinated when they answer. And laugh at all of their jokes.

    Ballet, dogs, and food are good choices. Also don’t forget that there are stereotypical African traits that will make you more attractive, and you should play those up. We’re infamous sexpots, for example. And good cooks and alluring dancers.

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  76. And we’re religious and fertile and loyal. I could go on and on, but the guys will get annoyed.

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  77. ‘This is actually been a sub-theme in some black themed films of the 90s and 00s that are more black female oriented/marketed. One of their grievances/stresses etc is “will our men go for us or will they….sell us out?” ‘

    There are black men who complain that black women are whores, treat them like shit, et cetera. There is no shortage of losers willing to gripe on the internet.

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  78. >>Alcestis Eshtemoa said:
    “””””Most mixed-raced Brazilians don’t call themselves “Afro-Latino”. That’s how international leftist NGOs tend to term them and it’s wrong.”””””””

    Uh, no YOU’RE wrong. According to scientific factual data labeling, that’s exactly how a mixer should be aptly described and labeled, by their continents of origin. Black (African or Afro-) and Latino (or Hispanic, since Brazil was originally colonized by Portugal which is part of the Iberian Peninsula, etc. and thus Latino).

    “There are some things that are true even though the Communist Party says they are true.”–G. Orwell. Derbyshire quotes that one from time to time as well and the Derb is correct.

    But then, nobody ever made the claim that Brazil’s national total IQ is very high. Actually it’s quite below average. Argentina is much higher since they tend to be, well, overall much much smarter and more literate, etc.

    Wouldn’t be fun if Messi and gang win the WC on Brazilian soil later this wk? Oh, that would be fun, fun, fun!

    “””””””””””Somebody who is 70% white/30% black?””””””””””””””””””””””””

    Uh, yes. We call tend to call them Mariah Carey.

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  79. >>Alte said:
    “””””””””Brazil is the cosmetic surgery capital of the world. She’s right about that.”””””””””””””

    That’s BS. One of those so called “alleged” things that are constantly said ad nauseum that no one tends to question it.

    For instance, for that to occur, you actually have high enough IQ to become a physician and since Brazil isn’t all that in overall safety, high crime, high poverty, government at times on edge of a coup, etc. Its BS.

    Brazil also doesn’t tend to have a high or signicantly high population of Shermans (esp. when compared to US) so that sends warning bells and red lights going off.

    FACT: US has the best overall quality of medical care, bar none, in the world.

    Therefore it does stand to reason that the best quality of plastic surgery (which is technically a part of the medical field) will tend to be where the best overall quality of medical care is located, and that’s in US.

    BOOM

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  80. The reason blonde women are highly desirable is that blonde hair denotes youthfulness and is also rare in all ethnic groups and races. Many white people are blonde as children but as they age out of childhood their hair darkens to the not very interesting “dishwater” blonde or, as my Estonian friend calls it, “potato hair.” Most women head for the highlights when this begins to happen. If you were blonde as a child, your complexion is suited to it as an adult.

    I remember reading that the first women who began to bleach their hair blonde were the Roman women. Roman men were bringing home blonde German slave girls and many Roman men were gaga over them and Roman women were jealous. I can only imagine how awful the bleach jobs made the Roman women look, thus compounding their problems with holding onto the affections of their men. Also, I pity the poor Roman men who preferred their beauties dark. For a while a lot of Japanese women were dying their hair red or blonde Ugh!!!

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  81. The tide has turned on black-white interracial marriage in America. Black women are converging with black men on interracial marrying. And in another 5 years or so, it may well be the case that the in-wedlock “black” children are majority white fathers or less radically majority white fathers of the ones whose parents are interracially married.

    Now I am saying marriage for a reason, the demographics of the kids born to married couples are really essential since (contrary to the myths) the black illegitimacy rate has basically stabilized at its current level of ~70% give or take a point. It rose early and incredibly rapidly and then just stayed there with not much increase (it’s very possible what increase did happen was immigration-driven, as they are propping up the black birthrate by comprising 1/3 or so of black births annually).

    There aren’t that many black women in America, and it doesn’t take many of them being attractive to a white guy to potentially produce an educated and decent-earning mixed-race top end. (BW-WM marriages last the longest and produce the most little net taxpayers).

    If the trends hold in their current directions, that would push the black out of wedlock birthrate down as black women married to white guys had 2-4 kids instead of black women married to black guys having 1-2 kids.

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  82. http://screamer.deadspin.com/the-whitening-of-neymar-how-color-is-lived-in-brazil-1601716830

    Steve’s audience is surprisingly broad.

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  83. With regards to black men shaving their head hair, and of course black women , what I find really strange about the whole thing is that this doesn’t seem to be the case at all for most non-african populations with similar hair, like papuans and melanesians. Go look at photos of them- afros are ubiquitous among them, men and women included, even when hair isn’t as tightly coiled as among africans, and straightened, dreaded hair isn’t particularly common either. Afros aren’t uncommon among east africans either, especially going by ethiopian church art- afros are nearly universal, though more common on men than women. The only non-typical black african people I can think of where short hair/shaved heads are common in men (and women) are Andaman Islanders and to a lesser extent, Malaysian negritos. It only seems like typical black africans (and khoisan) who dislike their hair, whether it be in africa or elsewhere. You just don’t see afros much in native african cultures, whether it be on men or women. I really can’t figure it out. I think it’s cultural, but it does certainly going against the idea that one’s own racial features are bound to be preferred in isolation of other groups. I mean, it’s close to continent-wide.

    Also, I really have to laugh at the idea of there being an intrinsic preference for lighter hair (especially blonde) on women. You can make the case for relatively lighter skin on women (I agree with a good amount of what Peter Frost says, that it isn’t purely a matter of social class or domination from a lighter group, but he seems to understand much of his ideas less than he realizes), but light hair, yeah, I don’t think so. Why? Because there’s a virtual lack of cross-cultural, pre-european evidence for it, like women dying their hair lighter, even from black to brunette. I can think of virtually no traditional cultures in which dyed lighter hair on women was considered ideal, the only being the Himba of Namibia, and it’s barely any different for men- in some parts of the muslim world, you have men with dyed red beards, and masai men dyed their hair red, but that’s close to all you can find out there. It’s hardly uncommon for pre-modern non-whites to list black hair as ideal even though it was universal among them, and to even disparage the lighter hair and eyes of whites. Look at pre-modern japanese and chinese artwork, you won’t find a single woman with lighter hair. “Nordic solpsism” is indeed the best term for it, there’s so much evidence against it, but that hardly stops many people, like sadly maybe Steve here. I remember Roissy made a post about Frost’s work back in summer of last year, and the comments were swamped with autists (though that seems to be typical for his blog) pining on about the intense, intrinsic preference for blonde hair. One nerd was even going on about platinum blonde being the absolute feminine ideal. And how often do you see women sporting that, even dyed?

    And I don’t think blonde hair is really feminine on men either- the vikings considered it ideal, and non-blonde viking men would dye it as well.

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  84. I should also add that light hair was popular among Roman women at one point and was modeled after Germans, and I’ve heard similar things for Greeks (particularly for Aphrodite, but I think much of that is flimsy), and on top of light female slaves being popular for harems in the medieval muslim world, blonde hair was variously popular too. But aside from these cases, which could be framed as being exoticized or romanticized, there’s still an astounding lack of evidence for lighter hair on women being ideal throughout the pre-modern world. For the people who like to sing about the incomparable beauty of white women in large part due to their skin color and the historical corroboration for it, they seem to not consider how lacking it is for light hair.

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  85. “At the same time, being a true Subsaharan dark black is not considered attractive anywhere either, not even in the PC USA. All the major black male stars are some variation of “high yellow”. ”

    Uhhhh, not really, skin bleaching is way less common in african men. In Senegal, it’s very rare, and openly associated with homosexuality. Do you also consider Wesley Snipes, Chris Rock, Kanye West etc. as high yellow?

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  86. “I can only imagine how awful the bleach jobs made the Roman women look, thus compounding their problems with holding onto the affections of their men. Also, I pity the poor Roman men who preferred their beauties dark. For a while a lot of Japanese women were dying their hair red or blonde Ugh!!!”

    That was also a fad among Iranian-American women.

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  87. A “fad” that hasn’t died out in Beverly Hills yet …

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  88. He doesn’t look white though. He looks mestizo or “general Latin American”.

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  89. If he lived in Orange County, the way he looks in his 2014 portrait would suggest a mixture of white, East Asian, Mexican, and, on second glance, oh yeah, he’s a little black.

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  90. >>The Unreal Woman said:
    “”””””Now I am saying marriage for a reason, “””””””””

    I know you are, because frankly it is becoming rarer an rarer within the black community. Ever since Daniel Patrick Moynihan published his treatise “The Negro Family” in 1965, the illegitimacy rate among blacks has done nothing BUT increase over time.

    “””””the demographics of the kids born to married couples are really essential since (contrary to the myths) the black illegitimacy rate has basically stabilized at its current level of ~70% give or take a point.””””””””””

    Now, this is a total lie. A lie. I’ve read about the illegitimacy rate for couple decades now, it has done nothing but increase every few years. Example: In 05, John Derbyshire was on C-SPAN’S Booknotes and was commenting on a recent (at the time) article about the black out of wedlock rate, which, (at the time) hovered around 65-68%.

    In 2014, the illegitimacy rate now stands around 73-75%. It has done nothing but increase since 1965 and there is no, repeat, NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that suggests it will suddenly and magically decline.

    FACT: If the trends hold (and they are) by 2029, the black illegitimacy rate will be around 88-90%. That’s 90% out of wedlock or roughly nine out of every ten blacks total in America will be born without a father.

    FACT: Since Bush but definitely under Obama (this is not a blame Dem or GOP per se, merely to demonstrate how long this has been going on) the black unemployment has increased. It’s close to about 20-25% and that will only increase over time, especially…..

    FACT: the Standard Deviation in IQ. The lower the IQ that blacks tend to have means that fewer and fewer of them will have stable employment. Fewer employed blacks means fewer stable families and thus the cycle repeats itself.

    FACT: Incarceration rate. Don’t have to dwell, but merely to state that it isn’t abating any time soon either and of course those in prison generally don’t tend to form stable families.

    FACT: The ‘talented tenth’ of which you seem to be writing about is actually decreasing in total number. As the illegitimacy rate increases (and it is: example: the OOW birthrate was about 71-72% in 2011, and now its currently around 73-75% and that’s an increase); the poor and less educated tend to have more children. This is true in every major first world industrialized country. Therefore there will be fewer and fewer educated higher IQ blacks among the ‘talented tenth’. Even the phrase talented tenth will have to be…”dumbed down” even further.

    Example: Rachel Jeantel. Currently she really wouldn’t be included among the ‘talented tenth’ on anyone’s radar. In twenty years time, she would be considered part of the top 94-95 percentile of educated blacks primarily due to the diluted quality. Translation: As the group’s overall quality becomes less educated, you have to take what’s available.

    “”””””””It rose early and incredibly rapidly and then just stayed there with not much increase”””””””

    But again, this is either a direct lie or willful ignorance. The out of wedlock rate among blacks has done nothing but increase since aroudn 1965. Just in 2005, it was around 65-68% and now it’s around 73-75%. Basic math says that 73% is a larger total than 65%. And, there’s really no reason to ever believe it will ever significantly decrease. For stable families to form, you need a few things.
    1. Staying out prison
    2. Not joining gangs at an early age (thus leading to prison or early death).
    3. Actually graduating from school.
    4. Finding and then keeping a job.

    Sounds like magic but it truly isn’t.

    “””””as they are propping up the black birthrate by comprising 1/3 or so of black births annually).”””””””

    Here you contradict yourself: If anything, those from the Carribbean and Africa tend to arrive as families. The early generations generally are married. Carribbean blacks tend to have fewer of the sociological problems that have beset US blacks since the 60s.

    And finally, the intermarriage rate is much much higher among the other way than what you’ve stated. To put in street terms, few white dudes go black. They just don’t, and why would they?

    But have to give credit where its due. Never ever have read or heard anything re: black illegitimacy rates as getting better. All news tends to be the opposite and its only getting worse.

    AGAIN: By 2029, the black out of wedlock rate will hover around 90% and currently there’s no evidence to suggest that it won’t or that blacks will take control of their own lives, destinies, etc in a positive way.

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  91. Let’s not go overboard. As far as men are concerned the same “cool look” rules from Brazil to Mexico City to Calcutta to Berlin to New York, and that would be precisely the Naymar tan-skinned “racially ambiguous” look. It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond like German star Andre Schürrle. And being a ginger, “the whitest of the white”, is uncool everywhere, and it is socially acceptable, apparently, to mock them in the media (See Dalton, Andy).

    Right. I imagine Neymar would be basing his look on someone like Cristiano Ronaldo, who is white but not the whitest looking guy, even for a Portuguese. Ronaldo is white but has an exotic, ambiguous cast to him and people wonder about his background as seen in Google searches.

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  92. Sammy Sosa is really creepy looking. He was always a bit creepy looking, even before the skin lightening. He has this creepy, gay smile. With the skin lightening, he looks like some gay Latin American vampire or something.

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  93. Ronaldo has some Cape Verdean ancestry, so he’s probably a little bit black. He looks kind of like Tim Tebow if Tebow were 1/8th black and went clubbing every night.

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  94. As a Brazilian, i don’t agree with everything Alcestis Eshtemoa is saying, but she/he is quite correct abotu the genetics of Brazilians, somthing that Americans have a hard time believing. Yes, the blacks and mixed-race Brazilians are more Europeans than anything else according to recent genetic studies.

    Here’s a very good summary in English about some of those studies:

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/02/brazilians-more-european-than-not/#.U7ym9znM9jM

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  95. Ronaldo has some Cape Verdean ancestry, so he’s probably a little bit black. He looks kind of like Tim Tebow if Tebow were 1/8th black and went clubbing every night.

    What if he were like George Hamilton, a white guy with a perpetual tan? I don’t think Hamilton is anything but white, but he always looked ethnic because of his perpetual tan. Of course now he looks like an old catcher’s mitt. How he doesn’t have melanoma is anyone’s guess.

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  96. 63% of NFL fans attended college? And have an average household income of $94K?

    You must be speaking of those who buy tickets to attend games, correct? The median household income in the US is 51K. I don’t believe that football fandom is limited to only those in the 75th percentile and higher.

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  97. Must be an awfully busy day/evening. Some comments are still awaiting moderation.

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  98. “As a Brazilian, i don’t agree with everything Alcestis Eshtemoa is saying, but she/he is quite correct abotu the genetics of Brazilians, somthing that Americans have a hard time believing. Yes, the blacks and mixed-race Brazilians are more Europeans than anything else according to recent genetic studies.”

    I am American and I do not have a hard time believing that Brazil is more genetically European than Sub Saharan African. If genetically Brazil was overwhelmingly Sub Saharan African, than the average Brazilian would have looked like a Haitian for example.

    But Haitian looking people are Minority in Brazil, especially outside of the favelas. When I was down in Brazil I saw way more Pardo/Multiracial Alex Rodriguez looking type people than I did Whoopi Goldberg type people.

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  99. People over here (Germany) tend to ask me if I’m from Brazil. Now that the WC is on, I get that question once per week. My appearance is pretty typical, I think, which would suggest a population dominated by European ancestry. Lots of German men are married to Brazilian women.

    Also, a lot of Argentinian expats stop me. They’re migrating in through Spain and seeing me makes the guys homesick.

    My bone of contention with Alcestis was the idea that sub-saharan DNA was “stubborn”. An assumption which leads to her faux admixture statistics.

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  100. >>Jefferson (“Aw, Wheezy!”) said:
    “””””I am American and I do not have a hard time believing that Brazil is more genetically European than Sub Saharan African.””””””””””

    Ditto. And I do. Brazil imported way more slaves from sub-saharan Africa than did US, for one thing and to suggest that very little intermixing between the subs and Amerindians and Mestizos occurred is well, just plain plum silly.

    “”””””If genetically Brazil was overwhelmingly Sub Saharan African, than the average Brazilian would have looked like a Haitian for example.”””””””

    You mean they don’t? Kidding, kidding.

    >>Alte said:
    “””””””Lots of German men are married to Brazilian women.””””””””

    I thought they went for Sub-Saharan Africans. What’s up with German men?? Can’t they get a German woman anymore? (e.g. meaning women of German ancestry since before the Weimar Republic & WW1). German men really being turned down and away by their own womenfolk?
    Really? Seriously?

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  101. Why do you assume that they’d all prefer to marry a German woman? Many don’t bother to marry at all and the rest have little patience for feminists.

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  102. >>Alte said:
    “”””””””””””Why do you assume that they’d all prefer to marry a German woman?”””””””””””

    Why not? Every first world nation tends to believe that their women are the “prettiest”; “most feminine” etc. etc. Isn’t Germany proud of the quality that their women possess? Americans certainly tend to believe that they have the best looking women on the Earth (and it could be true).
    And of course, most nations tend to desire and want to marry primarily a woman from their own nation first an foremost. And that is a good thing.

    Also, Reunification occured October ’90, and therefore bringing some 20million into the total population. Are you saying that Eastern German women are not at least somewhat appealing? No? Seriously?

    Example: Tom Brady’s wife Gisele Bundchen. Yes, technically she is Brazilian. BUT…. Bundchen?? Doesn’t that at least sound to be German or Germanic in origin? If yes, then certainly German women can measure up in looks, femininity, etc.

    Example: super model Claudia Schieffer. I believe I read that she is German. Now, she was considered to be an attractive woman at one time. Heidi Klum, is German, is she not?

    So, it isn’t as though Germany does not have an ample supply of German women. They do. The question is: Why aren’t the men going for their own supply?

    “”””””Many don’t bother to marry at all and the rest have little patience for feminism.”””””””””

    Germany’s cohabitation rate isn’t as bad as Sweden or rest of Scandinavian countries. That is on the men, though and it is their duty and responsibility to choose not only a woman from their own nation but also to be responsible and get married. They owe it to their future lineages as well as to their future.

    Feminism, while it is a related matter is a secondary one and should best be worked out within the society, the culture, and perhaps the school and family at large.

    On side note: Germany vs Argentina!

    Now Messi has to prove and demonstrate on the global stage why some think he is the greatest soccer player in the world at present. One game to prove greatness. Time will tell and we shall see.

    Bradshaw did it twice, Super Bowls XIII & XIV.

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  103. The middle Eastern women have always used red henna dyes. It overlays the natural color and makes the hair shinier. It’s when they bleach the color out and it looks orange that looks the worst. The Iranian women were doing that. I had an Iranian boyfriend who begged me never to dye my hair red.

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  104. “Why aren’t the men going for their own supply?”

    I already explained that. The marriagable German women marry German men and the rest of the German women are unmarriagable because feminism. A fifth of German women, and fully a third of the college-educated, will die childless. The remaining German men (primarily college-educated) marry foreigners or don’t marry.

    East German women are all in West Germany now, so the East German men marry Slavs.

    I’m sorry, but there really isn’t any point in marrying a feminist. You might as well guage your eyeballs out with a spoon, if you’re such a glutton for punishment.

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  105. gouge

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  106. “”””””””I already explained that.”””””””””””””””

    And it was a second rate excuse then as now. It doesn’t fully add up. Germany’s population is around 80million folks. That’s plenty of women for men to find a life-mate. Or as Conan the Barbarian would say, “I got to get busy with the wifeing!” So get busy!

    “””””””The marriagable German women marry German men and the rest of the German women are unmarriagable because feminism.””””””””

    NOBODY has more feminists per capita than America. You guys don’t know what feminism truly is until you’ve seen American feminists in action.

    Maybe because German women felt like 2nd rate for so long they felt the need to push back. Over time regression toward the mean should occur and the rates of feminism will subside.

    “”””A fifth of German women, and fully a third of the college-educated, will die childless.””””””””

    Here you underestimate women. Women the world over, German or wherever, tend to be very very practical. They carefully weigh their decisions as well as the costs. Most women don’t want to die childless or without a mate. They will find a way.

    Either that or maybe some of them just don’t like men, period.

    “”””””The remaining German men (primarily college-educated) marry foreigners or don’t marry.””””””

    But this makes no sense and goes back to my original question: Why don’t German men appreciate their own women? Don’t they think that their women are the best looking, most attractive in the first world?

    “””””East German women are all in West Germany now, so the East German men marry Slavs.””””””

    So THAT is why the Sudetenland was so important!

    What? ONLY East Germany’s women flew the coop and all of the E.German men stayed home? That makes no sense at all.

    “”””””””I’m sorry, but there really isn’t any point in marrying a feminist.”””””””””””””

    Agreed, but you tend to overestimate the number of feminists in Germany. You guys don’t have the total number as in America. Modern Feminism took off in US first and foremost.

    And yet US feminists for the most part are married. So somewhere out there is a German man for a German feminist.

    But you guys need to get busy with the wifeing, as Conan would say!

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  107. Yojimbo/Zatoichi says: (Commenting History)
    July 9, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Why not? Every first world nation tends to believe that their women are the “prettiest”; “most feminine” etc.
    —-
    Are you sure about that ? I’m not sure that you’re wrong but it doesn’t seem right.
    I’d be surprised if Brits thought of British women as the prettiest and most feminine. They probably find them decently pretty and decently feminine but the best in each category ?
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    etc. Isn’t Germany proud of the quality that their women possess? Americans certainly tend to believe that they have the best looking women on the Earth (and it could be true).
    And of course, most nations tend to desire and want to marry primarily a woman from their own nation first an foremost. And that is a good thing.
    —-
    It’s true that everywhere people still mostly marry with their countrymen but I’m not sure that everywhere people think their countrymen are the “prettiest” mates. They obviously find them mostly good enough, overall, though.

    Here you underestimate women. Women the world over, German or wherever, tend to be very very practical. They carefully weigh their decisions as well as the costs. Most women don’t want to die childless or without a mate. They will find a way.

    Most find a mate eventually but the number of educated women who remain childless is depressing.

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  108. >>ogunsiron said:
    “””””””””””””””””Are you sure about that?”””””””””””””

    Yup.

    “”””I’m not sure that you’re wrong but it doesn’t seem right.”””””””””””

    Actually, it is correct, it is. Also, it doesn’t say very much about a first world industrialized nation if they don’t pride themselves on the quality of their womenfolk (among other important things of quality). The highest respect a nation can pay to their women is to stick up for them in various ways including on the international level (e.g. “Our country has the best women in so many amazing ways, etc.”). Look at it this way: It took an amazing species of women to “birth” so many levels of greatness that helped comprise the American Century. That wasn’t an accident. As the saying goes, behind every successful man there’s a woman. Well, for all the amazing things that have been and continue to be accomplished by Americans, well….look no further than at the quality of our women.

    “””””I’d be surprised if Brits thought of British women as the prettiest and most feminine.””””””

    Now see, Americans don’t have that problem. We KNOW that WE DO HAVE the best, the prettiest women in the world. And, let’s face it. Every major industrialized nation more or less secretly wishes that they had our women.

    We have the best women, hands down.

    “”””””They probably find them decently pretty and decently feminine but the best in each category?””””

    One reason the Brits could be bringing up the rear, is uh….flouride. In the toothpaste. It’s actually been around for close to a century now, and, it actually works. Perhaps they could discover it.

    But yes, Americans tend to publicly stick up for their women. Again, the quality, the different types, the levels of prettiness, etc. it’s breathtaking, absolutely breathtaking.

    And we, WE do have the best women. Hands down.

    BOOM

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  109. “how many Hollywood celebutards will opt for low IQ africanoid offspring?”

    A number of Hollywood celebutards have already opted for low IQ african offspring, by adopting some.

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  110. Is Neymar’s slanted mouth just a sardonic expression, or did his surgeon make a mistake?

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  111. The Seed is Strong!! Steve I’m begging you. Please don’t get killed by the Lannister twins.

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