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In most countries, the national Green Party has become a leftist identity politics party for bourgeois folks who find Communists too sweaty.

In Mexico, however, the Ecologist Green Party of Mexico, which holds a not insignificant 34 of the 500 seats in the Chamber of Deputies (not that non-Presidente power matters all that much in Mexico), is now a social conservative party that favors restoring the death penalty and dropping gay marriage.

Its opponents claim that the Ecologist Green Party is actually a well-funded front for the currently ruling PRI, but I can’t make head nor tail of current Mexican party politics, other than that everybody thinks the leftist Lopez Obrador will get elected President later this year (unless he suddenly is no longer available to run, like the PRI nominee in 1994 who got gunned down in Tijuana).

 
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  1. Sierra Club used to be against immigration until Wall Street investor David Gelbaum showed up with $100 million.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas

    Sierra Club used to be against immigration until Wall Street investor David Gelbaum showed up with $100 million.
     
    If Mr. Gelbaum is out there, $100,000,000.00 just might change my views on immigration. I'll throw in not (((noticing))) for free.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    They should be - one only has to take a casual trip around the 'Greater Toronto Area' to see the devastating effects of immigration on the environment. All wildlife being destroyed to built housing.

    You think an Indian is going to buy a chic condo downtown? Hell no, they take up as much space and land as possible.
    , @Anonymous
    That was the carrot. If it hadn't been taken, the stick would have come out: non-stop media vilification of the Sierra "racists".
  2. I always got a kick out of “Red Dawn”, where the prologue explains the Greens won in West Germany.

  3. OT: I wonder if Steve celebrated Stormy Daniels Day in West Hollywood today. It was official, and they gave her the key to the city.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Too bad we'll never get a Tom Wolfe (or at least a Hunter S. Thompson) account of the proceedings.
    , @Mr. Anon

    OT: I wonder if Steve celebrated Stormy Daniels Day in West Hollywood today. It was official, and they gave her the key to the city.
     
    Don't they know that you're not supposed to give your key to a whore. Just leave some money on the dresser and tell her to get lost.

    Although Donald Trump left $130,000 on the dresser and even that didn't help.
    , @Anon
    It was all over the news. Some W Hollywood residents showed up wearing MAGA hats.

    When interviewed by the TV reporters they pointed out that the W Hollywood city council should be concentrating on potholes, trash graffiti crime parking and other mundane concerns instead of glorifying a porn skank.

    Key to the city to a porn actress is totally appropriate as W Hollywood bathhouses bars alleys parks and community center and neighborhood library restrooms was one if the places where the gay men invented AIDS HIV and all sorts of incurable strains of STDs and even new forms of STDs such as venereal warts and mushrooms.

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.
  4. My favorite “third party” quote about Mexico is the Chinese doctor doing forbidden genetic experiments explaining that “it’s easier here because there is no law.”

  5. I see no contradiction in the Green Party’s platform. I myself am a strong conservationist and am also against homosexual marriage and wasting money on incarcerating for long periods of time thugs who commit murder.

    • Replies: @Pepe
    It should be made clear that the "Green" party in Mexico has no concern at all about the environment. It is a fraud.

    Everyone in Mexico knows it's a party that simply exists to form coalitions with other larger parties for payoffs. For the last few election cycles it's the "young person's" wing of the PRI party. It's probably more corrupt than the PRI party and that's hard to do.

    There is no party in Mexico that has environmental issues as a serious part of its platform or agenda, unless you consider AMLO's new Morena party and their desire to stop multinationals, such as Canadian mining companies, from damaging the environment.

  6. • Replies: @Anonymous
    Nemesis.
  7. @utu
    Sierra Club used to be against immigration until Wall Street investor David Gelbaum showed up with $100 million.

    Sierra Club used to be against immigration until Wall Street investor David Gelbaum showed up with $100 million.

    If Mr. Gelbaum is out there, $100,000,000.00 just might change my views on immigration. I’ll throw in not (((noticing))) for free.

    • LOL: Mishra, BB753, AndrewR
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I see your $100,000,000.00 and lower you $90,000,000. Plus I will get 9 friends to change their views too.

    Actually it's good to see that even Lefties can be bought.

  8. Pepe says:

    In Mexico ideology really doesn’t matter that much. The country’s democracy hasn’t advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It’s really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends.

    In a sense this is good, because in Mexico you don’t have to hear all that social justice warrior/identity politics crap.

    There are plenty of examples from the Presidential race now underway.

    The “leftist” candidate leading by more than 20 points in most polls (AMLO) is in an alliance with the most conservative party in Mexico, Encuentro Social (PES). PES is a tiny Evangelical based party mostly known for opposition to gay marriage and abortion. When asked about this, AMLO candidly admits he wants support wherever he can get it, and all that social issue stuff is not really important in Mexico.

    The #2 contender to AMLO is Ricardo Anaya. He’s part of a coalition including the two main opposition parties. They are supposedly in opposition to the completely non-ideological PRI party. The PAN party is the traditional conservative party in Mexico (on both economic and social issues) and the PRD party is the traditional liberal party (on both economic and social issues). PAN and PRD make up Anaya’s coalition.

    You starting to see how unimportant ideology is in Mexican politics?

    Many, including myself, have compared front-runner AMLO to Trump. He makes all the right people’s heads explode. He’s an economic nationalist, but appears to be socially conservative. If he wins the election, it could be a sign that Mexico is hopping over the West’s ideological wars of the last two centuries and jumping right into Trump’s New World.

    A lot of the western media is getting it wrong by saying AMLO’s strength is his ability to challenge Trump on The Wall, immigration and NAFTA. The problem is that AMLO has shown no inclination to do that. Trump is very rarely if ever mentioned in his stump speeches. And he correctly insists that Mexico’s problem are home grown, i.e., corruption, impunity and extreme income inequality.

    • Agree: fitzGetty
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @Brobert

    The country’s democracy hasn’t advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It’s really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends.
     
    In a sufficiently advanced democracy, all parties know they're better off having the same friends. We can hope the mexicans can one day reach such heights of governance.
    , @AndrewR

    The country’s democracy hasn’t advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It’s really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends. In a sense this is good, because in Mexico you don’t have to hear all that social justice warrior/identity politics crap.
     
    You imply that SJWism is part of an "advanced democracy," yet looting the treasury and protecting your friends is what SJWism is all about. I'll admit that the US is significantly less corrupt than Mexico, but that is a very low bar, and, in any case, demographic and political trends strongly suggest that the US will descend into Mexican levels of within a generation or two.
    , @Anon
    Good for him. Vicente Fox campaigned on America is the cause of all Mexico’s problems.
  9. I know one thing white girls sure like Men of Color

    You guys need to read Leonard Pitts and open your eyes to huge destructive white privilege

  10. @utu
    Sierra Club used to be against immigration until Wall Street investor David Gelbaum showed up with $100 million.

    They should be – one only has to take a casual trip around the ‘Greater Toronto Area’ to see the devastating effects of immigration on the environment. All wildlife being destroyed to built housing.

    You think an Indian is going to buy a chic condo downtown? Hell no, they take up as much space and land as possible.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Development of housing is obviously, going to destroy open land. Sooner or later, American cities will be like Calcutta, Mogadishu, etc. Sierra club is a piece of whale shit...and the Whales agree. All large animals, in Africa/Asia will be dead in my lifetime...so sad about this.
  11. @Buzz Mohawk
    OT: I wonder if Steve celebrated Stormy Daniels Day in West Hollywood today. It was official, and they gave her the key to the city.

    Too bad we’ll never get a Tom Wolfe (or at least a Hunter S. Thompson) account of the proceedings.

  12. Too bad we’ll never get a Tom Wolfe (or at least a Hunter S. Thompson) account of the proceedings.

    We don’t need a Wolfe or a Thompson anymore. Just someone to film real life and show it as it unfolds. If Hunter S. Thompson came back to life and was asked to write about the world in 2018, he’d look around, shake his head, mutter “I got nothing,” and blow his brains back out again.

  13. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:

    The greatest con of the last 50 years is how the Aryans who rule Mexico dumped their dark Brown underclass on the suckers in North America.

  14. Speaking of foreign countries how do you guys feel knowing that Trumo has been proven to have been elected by Russian meddle by
    He will be impeached I gaurantee it

    • Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    Try English some time, Tiny Dick.
  15. Guess what?

    Commenter ‘Lin’ is actually a sock-puppet of Anatoly Karlin. The comment history of ‘Lin’ is here :

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Lin

    Those who know how to use the blog commenter tools to verify this can do so with ease.

    A writer here with his own section still sockpuppets elsewhere. That is a very gamma-male behavioral trait.

  16. We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Our best shot is to sucker the Dems into nominating Madonna, who is a Disney Princess (or anti-Princess, which today is the same thing: see Meghan, Duchess of Sussex) of sorts, in 2020. The American electorate is stupid, but they are not that stupid, and even if they are, seeing the look on Hillary's face would almost be worth the trainwreck.
  17. @Pepe
    In Mexico ideology really doesn't matter that much. The country's democracy hasn't advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It's really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends.

    In a sense this is good, because in Mexico you don't have to hear all that social justice warrior/identity politics crap.

    There are plenty of examples from the Presidential race now underway.

    The "leftist" candidate leading by more than 20 points in most polls (AMLO) is in an alliance with the most conservative party in Mexico, Encuentro Social (PES). PES is a tiny Evangelical based party mostly known for opposition to gay marriage and abortion. When asked about this, AMLO candidly admits he wants support wherever he can get it, and all that social issue stuff is not really important in Mexico.

    The #2 contender to AMLO is Ricardo Anaya. He's part of a coalition including the two main opposition parties. They are supposedly in opposition to the completely non-ideological PRI party. The PAN party is the traditional conservative party in Mexico (on both economic and social issues) and the PRD party is the traditional liberal party (on both economic and social issues). PAN and PRD make up Anaya's coalition.

    You starting to see how unimportant ideology is in Mexican politics?

    Many, including myself, have compared front-runner AMLO to Trump. He makes all the right people's heads explode. He's an economic nationalist, but appears to be socially conservative. If he wins the election, it could be a sign that Mexico is hopping over the West's ideological wars of the last two centuries and jumping right into Trump's New World.

    A lot of the western media is getting it wrong by saying AMLO's strength is his ability to challenge Trump on The Wall, immigration and NAFTA. The problem is that AMLO has shown no inclination to do that. Trump is very rarely if ever mentioned in his stump speeches. And he correctly insists that Mexico's problem are home grown, i.e., corruption, impunity and extreme income inequality.

    Thanks.

  18. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    They should be - one only has to take a casual trip around the 'Greater Toronto Area' to see the devastating effects of immigration on the environment. All wildlife being destroyed to built housing.

    You think an Indian is going to buy a chic condo downtown? Hell no, they take up as much space and land as possible.

    Development of housing is obviously, going to destroy open land. Sooner or later, American cities will be like Calcutta, Mogadishu, etc. Sierra club is a piece of whale shit…and the Whales agree. All large animals, in Africa/Asia will be dead in my lifetime…so sad about this.

    • Replies: @bomag
    I recall a real estate article circa 2006 eagerly stating that one million acres of farmland was being paved over every year to make way for development in the U.S.

    There's several hundred million acres of farmland on the books in this country; we could expand into currently marginal areas; 2006 was the housing bubble; but it looks like a starkly finite thing, with a Malthusian convergence on the radar.

  19. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    The Atlantic on a new triple bank shot idea to desegregate K-12, universities, and neighborhoods, all in one step, proposed by a recent Yale Law grad.

    An Unusual Idea for Fixing School Segregation
    What if the answer lies in changing how college admissions work?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/05/an-unusual-idea-for-fixing-school-segregation/560930/

    https://ylpr.yale.edu/sites/default/files/YLPR/_shifting_the_scope_final_0.pdf

    It goes like this:

    Admissions offices of major universities announce and publicize that the SES (socio-economic status) level of the high school attended will be a “significant consideration” in “holistic” admissions decisions for applicants. For example, even if a kid comes from a well-off family, he will get bonus points on his application if the school he will graduate from has, say, 40 percent poor kids. (SES is a legal stand-in for prohibited racial preferences here.)

    Well-off parents hear about this, decide that it might be the deciding factor for junior to get into an ivy league or prestigious university, move to a black community, and force their kid to endure the local schools.

    Voila, communities desegregate, K-12 schools in those communities desegregate, and universities mostly go on as before, but bask in their having done something to end segregation.

    The particular kids of the families that moved into the black neighborhoods may or may not gain admission to the schools they apply to, since the “significant consideration” of their high school may or may not prevail in the murky miasma of “holistic admissions,” and at any rate, they would be paying full freight if accepted.

    The author of the idea is a Francophone and may be a French guy, which would help explain how he doesn’t see the cluelessness of the idea. The Atlantic manages to get several experts to praise the idea.

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Meh. They've been doing something similar in Texas for about 20 years now. No big changes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
    , @FPD72
    We already have something like this in Texas. After the courts threw out racial preferences in the Hopwood decision, the state legislature passed a law giving admission to any state university to those who graduate in the top 10% of their high school class; for UT-Austin it’s now the top 7%.

    Result: validictorians from POC schools with an SAT of 800 are getting into UT, while kids from top performing suburban schools with an SAT over 1400 can’t get in. A friend of mine knows a kid rejected by UT who got into Stanford.

    Families who moved into districts for the “good schools” are having to rethink their housing decisions. My own kids used to lament the HS they attended, since none of them graduated in the top 10% of their classes, but all three had good SAT scores and got into the state schools of their choice, but that was nearly 20 years ago.
    , @Anon
    How about the sure fire path to admission to a top 20 university

    Remain in your local Greenwich Darien conn Beverly Hills Hillsbough Marin Ca
    Lake Forest Highland Park Ill wealthy suburban public high school.

    Just check black on the application and write a weep and wail admit essay about how being black and growing up in a horrible White suburb and attending White schools was so traumatic and horrible

    Any White parents who fall for that and move to a ghetto and send the kids to a ghetto school are idiots. I believe this send middle class kids to ghetto schools was tried 60 years ago, mostly by SJW Jewish parents It didn’t work.

    It will never happen.
    , @eD
    France, along with most other countries, does college admissions solely via a test.
  20. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:

    I know one thing white girls sure like Men of Color

    You guys need to read Leonard Pitts and open your eyes to huge destructive white privilege

    Nice flail. Clumsy, weird and grasping.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    He may have a tiny duck, but he must have big fingers, what with all the misspellings.

    Unless of course, he's a double amputee who's using his only remaining digit to key his smartphone...
  21. Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s in the history. The Green Party founder, Jorge Gonzalez Torres comes from a wealthy, reasonably conservative family of high achievers. He genuinely cared about ecological issues and had outdoorsy hobbies, eventually started a party and that became a visionary move when in the nineties huge amounts of money were channeled into opposition parties to level the playing field against the PRI. The small ones can be run as family businesses, as was the Green when Jorge’s son, dandy Jorge Emilio was made party president at a very young age, but he botched it and is semi retired. The Green will naturally ally with the PRI, Jorge’s father in law was prominent PRI politician and Tanaulipas governor Martinez Manotou. Another Gonzalez Torres grew the family’s pharmaceutical company. Yet another, Victor, started a generic drugstore chain, very successful. And Enrique became an influential Jesuit, rector of the Iberoamericana University. No hippies in that family, or their friends. At some point a few years back, the party decided to include “death penalty for kidnappers” as a campaign issue.

    The election is pitting the very left-leaning Lopez Obrador against whatever is not very left leaning. However, whereas usually the left in Mexico was fragmented and defeat able, in this election the left has coalesced (or been eviscerated) around Lopez Obrador, and the center right is fighting to the death. It is a fight between elites, between Peña Nieto, who is bacjpking Meade, and Salinas de Gortari, who is backing Anaya.

    A casualty in that little fight has been Emiliano Salinas de Gortari publicly outed as friend and frontman for the sect NXIVM’s leader, disgraced Keith Rainere, late of Brooklyn, NY.

    • Replies: @Anon
    in the nineties huge amounts of money were channeled into opposition parties to level the playing field against the PRI

    Where did the money come from?
  22. @Pepe
    In Mexico ideology really doesn't matter that much. The country's democracy hasn't advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It's really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends.

    In a sense this is good, because in Mexico you don't have to hear all that social justice warrior/identity politics crap.

    There are plenty of examples from the Presidential race now underway.

    The "leftist" candidate leading by more than 20 points in most polls (AMLO) is in an alliance with the most conservative party in Mexico, Encuentro Social (PES). PES is a tiny Evangelical based party mostly known for opposition to gay marriage and abortion. When asked about this, AMLO candidly admits he wants support wherever he can get it, and all that social issue stuff is not really important in Mexico.

    The #2 contender to AMLO is Ricardo Anaya. He's part of a coalition including the two main opposition parties. They are supposedly in opposition to the completely non-ideological PRI party. The PAN party is the traditional conservative party in Mexico (on both economic and social issues) and the PRD party is the traditional liberal party (on both economic and social issues). PAN and PRD make up Anaya's coalition.

    You starting to see how unimportant ideology is in Mexican politics?

    Many, including myself, have compared front-runner AMLO to Trump. He makes all the right people's heads explode. He's an economic nationalist, but appears to be socially conservative. If he wins the election, it could be a sign that Mexico is hopping over the West's ideological wars of the last two centuries and jumping right into Trump's New World.

    A lot of the western media is getting it wrong by saying AMLO's strength is his ability to challenge Trump on The Wall, immigration and NAFTA. The problem is that AMLO has shown no inclination to do that. Trump is very rarely if ever mentioned in his stump speeches. And he correctly insists that Mexico's problem are home grown, i.e., corruption, impunity and extreme income inequality.

    The country’s democracy hasn’t advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It’s really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends.

    In a sufficiently advanced democracy, all parties know they’re better off having the same friends. We can hope the mexicans can one day reach such heights of governance.

  23. Anonymous[203] • Disclaimer says:

    Actually, Steve, European ‘Green’ Parties are generally more hard-core Marxist in ideology and policy than any of the conventional European ‘left’ parties – even back in the day, mid 20th century when the left wasn’t ashamed of itself – ever was.

    • Replies: @Tom Neumann
    I recall reading at some point that the Europeans used to say about the Green Parties that "the green tree has red roots". The logo of the Green Parties usually being a green tree. Even at their formation the Green Parties were pretty obvious about their communist leanings.
  24. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:
    @27 year old
    We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    We need a Disney princess who is a wealthy right winger who funds splinter parties to divide our enemies.

    Our best shot is to sucker the Dems into nominating Madonna, who is a Disney Princess (or anti-Princess, which today is the same thing: see Meghan, Duchess of Sussex) of sorts, in 2020. The American electorate is stupid, but they are not that stupid, and even if they are, seeing the look on Hillary’s face would almost be worth the trainwreck.

  25. @Anon
    It's in the history. The Green Party founder, Jorge Gonzalez Torres comes from a wealthy, reasonably conservative family of high achievers. He genuinely cared about ecological issues and had outdoorsy hobbies, eventually started a party and that became a visionary move when in the nineties huge amounts of money were channeled into opposition parties to level the playing field against the PRI. The small ones can be run as family businesses, as was the Green when Jorge's son, dandy Jorge Emilio was made party president at a very young age, but he botched it and is semi retired. The Green will naturally ally with the PRI, Jorge's father in law was prominent PRI politician and Tanaulipas governor Martinez Manotou. Another Gonzalez Torres grew the family's pharmaceutical company. Yet another, Victor, started a generic drugstore chain, very successful. And Enrique became an influential Jesuit, rector of the Iberoamericana University. No hippies in that family, or their friends. At some point a few years back, the party decided to include "death penalty for kidnappers" as a campaign issue.

    The election is pitting the very left-leaning Lopez Obrador against whatever is not very left leaning. However, whereas usually the left in Mexico was fragmented and defeat able, in this election the left has coalesced (or been eviscerated) around Lopez Obrador, and the center right is fighting to the death. It is a fight between elites, between Peña Nieto, who is bacjpking Meade, and Salinas de Gortari, who is backing Anaya.

    A casualty in that little fight has been Emiliano Salinas de Gortari publicly outed as friend and frontman for the sect NXIVM's leader, disgraced Keith Rainere, late of Brooklyn, NY.

    in the nineties huge amounts of money were channeled into opposition parties to level the playing field against the PRI

    Where did the money come from?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Public money.
  26. I would be very happy to support an environmentalist movement that focused on species and habitat preservation, that dropped the global warming nonsense and the Leftists politics. There may be an opportunity here for conservatives in America to emulate.

  27. @Anon
    in the nineties huge amounts of money were channeled into opposition parties to level the playing field against the PRI

    Where did the money come from?

    Public money.

  28. @Pepe
    In Mexico ideology really doesn't matter that much. The country's democracy hasn't advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It's really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends.

    In a sense this is good, because in Mexico you don't have to hear all that social justice warrior/identity politics crap.

    There are plenty of examples from the Presidential race now underway.

    The "leftist" candidate leading by more than 20 points in most polls (AMLO) is in an alliance with the most conservative party in Mexico, Encuentro Social (PES). PES is a tiny Evangelical based party mostly known for opposition to gay marriage and abortion. When asked about this, AMLO candidly admits he wants support wherever he can get it, and all that social issue stuff is not really important in Mexico.

    The #2 contender to AMLO is Ricardo Anaya. He's part of a coalition including the two main opposition parties. They are supposedly in opposition to the completely non-ideological PRI party. The PAN party is the traditional conservative party in Mexico (on both economic and social issues) and the PRD party is the traditional liberal party (on both economic and social issues). PAN and PRD make up Anaya's coalition.

    You starting to see how unimportant ideology is in Mexican politics?

    Many, including myself, have compared front-runner AMLO to Trump. He makes all the right people's heads explode. He's an economic nationalist, but appears to be socially conservative. If he wins the election, it could be a sign that Mexico is hopping over the West's ideological wars of the last two centuries and jumping right into Trump's New World.

    A lot of the western media is getting it wrong by saying AMLO's strength is his ability to challenge Trump on The Wall, immigration and NAFTA. The problem is that AMLO has shown no inclination to do that. Trump is very rarely if ever mentioned in his stump speeches. And he correctly insists that Mexico's problem are home grown, i.e., corruption, impunity and extreme income inequality.

    The country’s democracy hasn’t advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It’s really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends. In a sense this is good, because in Mexico you don’t have to hear all that social justice warrior/identity politics crap.

    You imply that SJWism is part of an “advanced democracy,” yet looting the treasury and protecting your friends is what SJWism is all about. I’ll admit that the US is significantly less corrupt than Mexico, but that is a very low bar, and, in any case, demographic and political trends strongly suggest that the US will descend into Mexican levels of within a generation or two.

  29. There are Greens and greens, Ecologists (generally Right-leaning) and environmentalists (generally hard left).

    Most green parties are like watermelons; green on the outside red on the inside. They favour coloured immigration, gay power etcetera and don’t really give a shit about the environment.

    I believe Germany has two Greens parties, a large left wing one and a much smaller real Green ecology one.

  30. @Anonymous
    I know one thing white girls sure like Men of Color

    You guys need to read Leonard Pitts and open your eyes to huge destructive white privilege

    Nice flail. Clumsy, weird and grasping.

    He may have a tiny duck, but he must have big fingers, what with all the misspellings.

    Unless of course, he’s a double amputee who’s using his only remaining digit to key his smartphone…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    He says he's a duck. I've got no reason to doubt him. Has he written anything untruthful?* C'mon guys, you try typing with webbed feet sometime.

    .
    .

    * Full disclaimer - I skip posts from him and all other waterfowl.
    , @MBlanc46
    It’s the wing feathers. It’s damned difficult to type with wing feathers.
  31. @Anon
    OT

    The Atlantic on a new triple bank shot idea to desegregate K-12, universities, and neighborhoods, all in one step, proposed by a recent Yale Law grad.

    An Unusual Idea for Fixing School Segregation
    What if the answer lies in changing how college admissions work?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/05/an-unusual-idea-for-fixing-school-segregation/560930/

    https://ylpr.yale.edu/sites/default/files/YLPR/_shifting_the_scope_final_0.pdf

    It goes like this:

    Admissions offices of major universities announce and publicize that the SES (socio-economic status) level of the high school attended will be a "significant consideration" in "holistic" admissions decisions for applicants. For example, even if a kid comes from a well-off family, he will get bonus points on his application if the school he will graduate from has, say, 40 percent poor kids. (SES is a legal stand-in for prohibited racial preferences here.)

    Well-off parents hear about this, decide that it might be the deciding factor for junior to get into an ivy league or prestigious university, move to a black community, and force their kid to endure the local schools.

    Voila, communities desegregate, K-12 schools in those communities desegregate, and universities mostly go on as before, but bask in their having done something to end segregation.

    The particular kids of the families that moved into the black neighborhoods may or may not gain admission to the schools they apply to, since the "significant consideration" of their high school may or may not prevail in the murky miasma of "holistic admissions," and at any rate, they would be paying full freight if accepted.

    The author of the idea is a Francophone and may be a French guy, which would help explain how he doesn't see the cluelessness of the idea. The Atlantic manages to get several experts to praise the idea.

    Meh. They’ve been doing something similar in Texas for about 20 years now. No big changes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588

  32. Anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu
    Sierra Club used to be against immigration until Wall Street investor David Gelbaum showed up with $100 million.

    That was the carrot. If it hadn’t been taken, the stick would have come out: non-stop media vilification of the Sierra “racists”.

  33. @Anon
    OT

    The Atlantic on a new triple bank shot idea to desegregate K-12, universities, and neighborhoods, all in one step, proposed by a recent Yale Law grad.

    An Unusual Idea for Fixing School Segregation
    What if the answer lies in changing how college admissions work?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/05/an-unusual-idea-for-fixing-school-segregation/560930/

    https://ylpr.yale.edu/sites/default/files/YLPR/_shifting_the_scope_final_0.pdf

    It goes like this:

    Admissions offices of major universities announce and publicize that the SES (socio-economic status) level of the high school attended will be a "significant consideration" in "holistic" admissions decisions for applicants. For example, even if a kid comes from a well-off family, he will get bonus points on his application if the school he will graduate from has, say, 40 percent poor kids. (SES is a legal stand-in for prohibited racial preferences here.)

    Well-off parents hear about this, decide that it might be the deciding factor for junior to get into an ivy league or prestigious university, move to a black community, and force their kid to endure the local schools.

    Voila, communities desegregate, K-12 schools in those communities desegregate, and universities mostly go on as before, but bask in their having done something to end segregation.

    The particular kids of the families that moved into the black neighborhoods may or may not gain admission to the schools they apply to, since the "significant consideration" of their high school may or may not prevail in the murky miasma of "holistic admissions," and at any rate, they would be paying full freight if accepted.

    The author of the idea is a Francophone and may be a French guy, which would help explain how he doesn't see the cluelessness of the idea. The Atlantic manages to get several experts to praise the idea.

    We already have something like this in Texas. After the courts threw out racial preferences in the Hopwood decision, the state legislature passed a law giving admission to any state university to those who graduate in the top 10% of their high school class; for UT-Austin it’s now the top 7%.

    Result: validictorians from POC schools with an SAT of 800 are getting into UT, while kids from top performing suburban schools with an SAT over 1400 can’t get in. A friend of mine knows a kid rejected by UT who got into Stanford.

    Families who moved into districts for the “good schools” are having to rethink their housing decisions. My own kids used to lament the HS they attended, since none of them graduated in the top 10% of their classes, but all three had good SAT scores and got into the state schools of their choice, but that was nearly 20 years ago.

  34. @Lagertha
    Development of housing is obviously, going to destroy open land. Sooner or later, American cities will be like Calcutta, Mogadishu, etc. Sierra club is a piece of whale shit...and the Whales agree. All large animals, in Africa/Asia will be dead in my lifetime...so sad about this.

    I recall a real estate article circa 2006 eagerly stating that one million acres of farmland was being paved over every year to make way for development in the U.S.

    There’s several hundred million acres of farmland on the books in this country; we could expand into currently marginal areas; 2006 was the housing bubble; but it looks like a starkly finite thing, with a Malthusian convergence on the radar.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    yes, sad and true.
  35. @Buzz Mohawk
    OT: I wonder if Steve celebrated Stormy Daniels Day in West Hollywood today. It was official, and they gave her the key to the city.

    OT: I wonder if Steve celebrated Stormy Daniels Day in West Hollywood today. It was official, and they gave her the key to the city.

    Don’t they know that you’re not supposed to give your key to a whore. Just leave some money on the dresser and tell her to get lost.

    Although Donald Trump left $130,000 on the dresser and even that didn’t help.

  36. Maybe the con gets turned around. They pile their losers into the States while more than a few white people continue to move down to Mexico filling the vacuum. I have cousin who already lives down there with a brother to follow. Maybe one day Mexico will be more than happy to help build that wall to keep them from coming back.

  37. @Tiny Duck
    Speaking of foreign countries how do you guys feel knowing that Trumo has been proven to have been elected by Russian meddle by
    He will be impeached I gaurantee it

    Try English some time, Tiny Dick.

  38. The American Empire, when it is once more under the control of White Core American Patriots, will have to temporarily suspend Mexican sovereignty to deliver some much-needed retaliation to the evil ruling class of Mexico. It will take one day to militarily secure Mexico, and two months to repatriate the tens of millions of Mexicans who have infiltrated the United States. We’ve done it before, we’ll do it again.

    Of course, all members of the Bush Organized Crime Syndicate will have to be hurried off to Paraguay before such a patriotic retaliatory excursion commences to tie up all the loose ends. We know that the Bush Organized Crime Syndicate has been collaborating with the ruling class of Mexico for more than 50 years now. Don’t we know that?

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Agree: Buck Turgidson
  39. Fat-Faced Baby Boomer Former Exelon Executive John Rowe Pushes Mass Immigration

    Baby Boomer John Rowe Is An Evil GOP Donor Who Pushes Nation-Wrecking Mass Immigration

    Put Me In Power And I’ll Deport Baby Boomer John Rowe To Mexico

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    Move all of them onto Rowe's property
  40. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    OT: I wonder if Steve celebrated Stormy Daniels Day in West Hollywood today. It was official, and they gave her the key to the city.

    It was all over the news. Some W Hollywood residents showed up wearing MAGA hats.

    When interviewed by the TV reporters they pointed out that the W Hollywood city council should be concentrating on potholes, trash graffiti crime parking and other mundane concerns instead of glorifying a porn skank.

    Key to the city to a porn actress is totally appropriate as W Hollywood bathhouses bars alleys parks and community center and neighborhood library restrooms was one if the places where the gay men invented AIDS HIV and all sorts of incurable strains of STDs and even new forms of STDs such as venereal warts and mushrooms.

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.
     
    They did that up here in Canada on the CBC news yesterday. Said she was part of the Resistance.
    , @Buzz Mohawk

    ...venereal warts and mushrooms.
     
    Yuck! So West Hollywood is an agricultural town then?

    The thing about Stormy Daniels, now past her prime, is that she is one of those performers who has a face and features that look good on camera when shot properly. In real life she is rather thick now. She is all T and A and Face without much of a figure.

    A she crosses America on her now-profitable stripper tour, men are paying to watch her gyrate naked on stage in high heels. To me at least, that would be like watching the Michelin Tire Man with nipples and a pretty face. I'll take student strippers in a college town any time over that.

    , @Seth Largo
    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.

    Local L.A.. news is surprisingly temperate and non-political. I miss Steve Edwards, though. An early MeToo take down, if an unsurprising one.
  41. @Pepe
    In Mexico ideology really doesn't matter that much. The country's democracy hasn't advanced enough to get into those sorts of things. It's really just about what group gets in power to loot the treasury and protect its friends.

    In a sense this is good, because in Mexico you don't have to hear all that social justice warrior/identity politics crap.

    There are plenty of examples from the Presidential race now underway.

    The "leftist" candidate leading by more than 20 points in most polls (AMLO) is in an alliance with the most conservative party in Mexico, Encuentro Social (PES). PES is a tiny Evangelical based party mostly known for opposition to gay marriage and abortion. When asked about this, AMLO candidly admits he wants support wherever he can get it, and all that social issue stuff is not really important in Mexico.

    The #2 contender to AMLO is Ricardo Anaya. He's part of a coalition including the two main opposition parties. They are supposedly in opposition to the completely non-ideological PRI party. The PAN party is the traditional conservative party in Mexico (on both economic and social issues) and the PRD party is the traditional liberal party (on both economic and social issues). PAN and PRD make up Anaya's coalition.

    You starting to see how unimportant ideology is in Mexican politics?

    Many, including myself, have compared front-runner AMLO to Trump. He makes all the right people's heads explode. He's an economic nationalist, but appears to be socially conservative. If he wins the election, it could be a sign that Mexico is hopping over the West's ideological wars of the last two centuries and jumping right into Trump's New World.

    A lot of the western media is getting it wrong by saying AMLO's strength is his ability to challenge Trump on The Wall, immigration and NAFTA. The problem is that AMLO has shown no inclination to do that. Trump is very rarely if ever mentioned in his stump speeches. And he correctly insists that Mexico's problem are home grown, i.e., corruption, impunity and extreme income inequality.

    Good for him. Vicente Fox campaigned on America is the cause of all Mexico’s problems.

  42. Anon[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    OT

    The Atlantic on a new triple bank shot idea to desegregate K-12, universities, and neighborhoods, all in one step, proposed by a recent Yale Law grad.

    An Unusual Idea for Fixing School Segregation
    What if the answer lies in changing how college admissions work?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/05/an-unusual-idea-for-fixing-school-segregation/560930/

    https://ylpr.yale.edu/sites/default/files/YLPR/_shifting_the_scope_final_0.pdf

    It goes like this:

    Admissions offices of major universities announce and publicize that the SES (socio-economic status) level of the high school attended will be a "significant consideration" in "holistic" admissions decisions for applicants. For example, even if a kid comes from a well-off family, he will get bonus points on his application if the school he will graduate from has, say, 40 percent poor kids. (SES is a legal stand-in for prohibited racial preferences here.)

    Well-off parents hear about this, decide that it might be the deciding factor for junior to get into an ivy league or prestigious university, move to a black community, and force their kid to endure the local schools.

    Voila, communities desegregate, K-12 schools in those communities desegregate, and universities mostly go on as before, but bask in their having done something to end segregation.

    The particular kids of the families that moved into the black neighborhoods may or may not gain admission to the schools they apply to, since the "significant consideration" of their high school may or may not prevail in the murky miasma of "holistic admissions," and at any rate, they would be paying full freight if accepted.

    The author of the idea is a Francophone and may be a French guy, which would help explain how he doesn't see the cluelessness of the idea. The Atlantic manages to get several experts to praise the idea.

    How about the sure fire path to admission to a top 20 university

    Remain in your local Greenwich Darien conn Beverly Hills Hillsbough Marin Ca
    Lake Forest Highland Park Ill wealthy suburban public high school.

    Just check black on the application and write a weep and wail admit essay about how being black and growing up in a horrible White suburb and attending White schools was so traumatic and horrible

    Any White parents who fall for that and move to a ghetto and send the kids to a ghetto school are idiots. I believe this send middle class kids to ghetto schools was tried 60 years ago, mostly by SJW Jewish parents It didn’t work.

    It will never happen.

  43. @Anon
    It was all over the news. Some W Hollywood residents showed up wearing MAGA hats.

    When interviewed by the TV reporters they pointed out that the W Hollywood city council should be concentrating on potholes, trash graffiti crime parking and other mundane concerns instead of glorifying a porn skank.

    Key to the city to a porn actress is totally appropriate as W Hollywood bathhouses bars alleys parks and community center and neighborhood library restrooms was one if the places where the gay men invented AIDS HIV and all sorts of incurable strains of STDs and even new forms of STDs such as venereal warts and mushrooms.

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.

    They did that up here in Canada on the CBC news yesterday. Said she was part of the Resistance.

  44. @Alec Leamas

    Sierra Club used to be against immigration until Wall Street investor David Gelbaum showed up with $100 million.
     
    If Mr. Gelbaum is out there, $100,000,000.00 just might change my views on immigration. I'll throw in not (((noticing))) for free.

    I see your $100,000,000.00 and lower you $90,000,000. Plus I will get 9 friends to change their views too.

    Actually it’s good to see that even Lefties can be bought.

  45. @Anon
    It was all over the news. Some W Hollywood residents showed up wearing MAGA hats.

    When interviewed by the TV reporters they pointed out that the W Hollywood city council should be concentrating on potholes, trash graffiti crime parking and other mundane concerns instead of glorifying a porn skank.

    Key to the city to a porn actress is totally appropriate as W Hollywood bathhouses bars alleys parks and community center and neighborhood library restrooms was one if the places where the gay men invented AIDS HIV and all sorts of incurable strains of STDs and even new forms of STDs such as venereal warts and mushrooms.

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.

    …venereal warts and mushrooms.

    Yuck! So West Hollywood is an agricultural town then?

    The thing about Stormy Daniels, now past her prime, is that she is one of those performers who has a face and features that look good on camera when shot properly. In real life she is rather thick now. She is all T and A and Face without much of a figure.

    A she crosses America on her now-profitable stripper tour, men are paying to watch her gyrate naked on stage in high heels. To me at least, that would be like watching the Michelin Tire Man with nipples and a pretty face. I’ll take student strippers in a college town any time over that.

  46. OT but related: July Texas Monthly magazine has a story about an illegal transgendered individual denied justice after being beaten by a john.

  47. @Anon
    It was all over the news. Some W Hollywood residents showed up wearing MAGA hats.

    When interviewed by the TV reporters they pointed out that the W Hollywood city council should be concentrating on potholes, trash graffiti crime parking and other mundane concerns instead of glorifying a porn skank.

    Key to the city to a porn actress is totally appropriate as W Hollywood bathhouses bars alleys parks and community center and neighborhood library restrooms was one if the places where the gay men invented AIDS HIV and all sorts of incurable strains of STDs and even new forms of STDs such as venereal warts and mushrooms.

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.

    At least the local news didn’t glorify her and denigrate Trump.

    Local L.A.. news is surprisingly temperate and non-political. I miss Steve Edwards, though. An early MeToo take down, if an unsurprising one.

  48. @Anonymous
    Actually, Steve, European 'Green' Parties are generally more hard-core Marxist in ideology and policy than any of the conventional European 'left' parties - even back in the day, mid 20th century when the left wasn't ashamed of itself - ever was.

    I recall reading at some point that the Europeans used to say about the Green Parties that “the green tree has red roots”. The logo of the Green Parties usually being a green tree. Even at their formation the Green Parties were pretty obvious about their communist leanings.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Watermelons. Green on the outside and Red on the inside.
  49. @Anon
    OT

    The Atlantic on a new triple bank shot idea to desegregate K-12, universities, and neighborhoods, all in one step, proposed by a recent Yale Law grad.

    An Unusual Idea for Fixing School Segregation
    What if the answer lies in changing how college admissions work?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/05/an-unusual-idea-for-fixing-school-segregation/560930/

    https://ylpr.yale.edu/sites/default/files/YLPR/_shifting_the_scope_final_0.pdf

    It goes like this:

    Admissions offices of major universities announce and publicize that the SES (socio-economic status) level of the high school attended will be a "significant consideration" in "holistic" admissions decisions for applicants. For example, even if a kid comes from a well-off family, he will get bonus points on his application if the school he will graduate from has, say, 40 percent poor kids. (SES is a legal stand-in for prohibited racial preferences here.)

    Well-off parents hear about this, decide that it might be the deciding factor for junior to get into an ivy league or prestigious university, move to a black community, and force their kid to endure the local schools.

    Voila, communities desegregate, K-12 schools in those communities desegregate, and universities mostly go on as before, but bask in their having done something to end segregation.

    The particular kids of the families that moved into the black neighborhoods may or may not gain admission to the schools they apply to, since the "significant consideration" of their high school may or may not prevail in the murky miasma of "holistic admissions," and at any rate, they would be paying full freight if accepted.

    The author of the idea is a Francophone and may be a French guy, which would help explain how he doesn't see the cluelessness of the idea. The Atlantic manages to get several experts to praise the idea.

    France, along with most other countries, does college admissions solely via a test.

  50. @Charles Pewitt
    Fat-Faced Baby Boomer Former Exelon Executive John Rowe Pushes Mass Immigration

    Baby Boomer John Rowe Is An Evil GOP Donor Who Pushes Nation-Wrecking Mass Immigration

    Put Me In Power And I'll Deport Baby Boomer John Rowe To Mexico

    https://twitter.com/kausmickey/status/999225120609648642

    Move all of them onto Rowe’s property

  51. @Highlander
    I see no contradiction in the Green Party's platform. I myself am a strong conservationist and am also against homosexual marriage and wasting money on incarcerating for long periods of time thugs who commit murder.

    It should be made clear that the “Green” party in Mexico has no concern at all about the environment. It is a fraud.

    Everyone in Mexico knows it’s a party that simply exists to form coalitions with other larger parties for payoffs. For the last few election cycles it’s the “young person’s” wing of the PRI party. It’s probably more corrupt than the PRI party and that’s hard to do.

    There is no party in Mexico that has environmental issues as a serious part of its platform or agenda, unless you consider AMLO’s new Morena party and their desire to stop multinationals, such as Canadian mining companies, from damaging the environment.

  52. “Well-off parents hear about this, decide that it might be the deciding factor for junior to get into an ivy league or prestigious university, move to a black community, and force their kid to endure the local schools.”

    Well, it really doesn’t get any sicker than that. Move to the ‘hood; send Junior to a ‘hood hi skoo at considerable personal risk to Junior –all so you can get Junior into a first tier college as a paying student where Junior will continue to get his head filled up with shit and wind up working as a barista at Starbucks anyway.

    Not to mention Junior’s baby mama getting forced to pull a Night Train Express home invasion one night while baby daddy love has to work late at the office on some crash project to outsource some business function (in some discipline Junior is majoring in) to some Third World shit hole.

  53. @ThreeCranes
    He may have a tiny duck, but he must have big fingers, what with all the misspellings.

    Unless of course, he's a double amputee who's using his only remaining digit to key his smartphone...

    He says he’s a duck. I’ve got no reason to doubt him. Has he written anything untruthful?* C’mon guys, you try typing with webbed feet sometime.

    .
    .

    * Full disclaimer – I skip posts from him and all other waterfowl.

  54. @Tom Neumann
    I recall reading at some point that the Europeans used to say about the Green Parties that "the green tree has red roots". The logo of the Green Parties usually being a green tree. Even at their formation the Green Parties were pretty obvious about their communist leanings.

    Watermelons. Green on the outside and Red on the inside.

  55. @bomag
    I recall a real estate article circa 2006 eagerly stating that one million acres of farmland was being paved over every year to make way for development in the U.S.

    There's several hundred million acres of farmland on the books in this country; we could expand into currently marginal areas; 2006 was the housing bubble; but it looks like a starkly finite thing, with a Malthusian convergence on the radar.

    yes, sad and true.

  56. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    https://twitter.com/detgrim/status/999374873104474112

    Nemesis.

  57. @ThreeCranes
    He may have a tiny duck, but he must have big fingers, what with all the misspellings.

    Unless of course, he's a double amputee who's using his only remaining digit to key his smartphone...

    It’s the wing feathers. It’s damned difficult to type with wing feathers.

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