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A sensible column on Merkel’s Mistake:

Angela Merkel’s Failure May Be Just What Europe Needs

Ross Douthat NOV. 22, 2017

In an unpredictable world, it’s always a pleasure to claim vindication for one’s own prophetic powers, and the political crisis in Germany — the inability of Angela Merkel to form a coalition government that keeps her country’s far right sidelined — could easily inspire an “I told you so” from those of us who have criticized the German chancellor and doubted her leader-of-the-free-world mystique.

That mystique is undeserved because it is too kind to her decision, lauded for its idealism but ultimately deeply reckless and destabilizing, to swiftly admit a million-odd migrants into the heart of Europe in 2015. No recent move has so clearly highlighted the undemocratic, Berlin-dominated nature of European decision making and the gulf between the elite consensus and popular opinion. And no move has contributed so much to the disturbances since — the worsening of Europe’s terrorism problem, the shock of Brexit and the rise of Trump, and the growing divide between the E.U.’s Franco-German core and its eastern nations.

So it’s fitting that the immigration issue has finally come back to undercut Merkel directly, first costing her votes in Germany’s last election, which saw unprecedented gains for the nationalist Alternative for Germany party, and then making a potential grand coalition impossible in part because the centrist, pro-business Free Democrats now see an opportunity in getting to Merkel’s right on migration policy.

Yes, thanks to the continued fallout from her rash decision, and just as her critics predicted, Germany stares into the abyss of …

… well, actually, no, it doesn’t really stare into the abyss at all.

Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.

 
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  1. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The Smaller the Political Unit, the Greater the Freedom.

    Lest there be any doubt about that, consider how much more of a voice you have in your own neighborhood association or town hall compared with that in your state house, not to mention national congress.

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??

    Also–nice title on this article, Steve. Variety is calling :)

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    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Neuday

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??
     
    Steve's post just prior to this one alludes to the solution. Has something to do with mob violence, and punishing groups for the actions of their members. Probably won't happen until there's a severe economic downturn, but how likely is that?
    , @Expletive Deleted

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??
     
    Easy. Start a pointless winter land war with Russia, after introducing conscription.
    We're already halfway there, thanks, Democacks.
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  2. watson79 says:

    OT, Happy Thanksgiving, Steve. This website is truly a gift. I do my best to spread the joy.

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    I like it low key though and not too popular....that way we don't get trolls and shit like that ruining the site....
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here, including the haters and losers.
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  3. AndrewR says:

    Hopefully soon there will be enough votes in the Bundestag to put unsere liebe Frau Merkel behind bars for life.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    From your mouth to God’s ears, as my late father would have said.

    But a self-hating, confused, brainwashed, cowardly people like the Germans haven’t even mustered 13% for the AfD at the polls. How will they come close to impeaching and prosecuting Merkel?
    , @larry lurker
    Nur lebenslange Haft? What are you, some kind of cuck?
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  4. NickG says:

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home?

    We are unable to muster the political will to even stop third world immigration to western Europeans countries and those settled by western Europeans, when these levels amount to demographic assault and de-facto ethnic cleansing.

    With even a rudimentary knowledge of history it’s difficult to see how this is not going to result in increasing inter-ethnic and sectarian strife. Though I suspect the massive surveillance state and political correctness will serve to keep the lid on really effective native dissent for a goodly while yet. Perhaps long enough make it futile. There does also seem to be a bug, a vulnerability, in the Western European psyche – the pathological altruism thing. Making this co-operating, out breeding group especially vulnerable to groups of in breeding, tribalists let en-masse into our societies who are not pre-disposed to reciprocate these tendencies. People who come from lands who run their deeply socially and genetically co-evolved mental sub-routines on different heuristics.

    Unfortunately 2 devastating twentieth century wars have likely culled the gene pool of many of those best pre-disposed to drive Western society’s ‘immune’ response. Basically we are a bunch of pussies.

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    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Dead on post Nick.

    With even a rudimentary knowledge of history it’s difficult to see how this is not going to result in increasing inter-ethnic and sectarian strife.
     
    The most striking thing about the current liberal consensus is just how obviously and objectively stupid it is. Anyone with the slightest education in human affairs--history, behavior--should be repelled by it intellectually for precisely this reason.

    Though I suspect the massive surveillance state and political correctness will serve to keep the lid on really effective native dissent for a goodly while yet.

     

    War is the health of the state.

    There does also seem to be a bug, a vulnerability, in the Western European psyche – the pathological altruism thing. Making this co-operating, out breeding group especially vulnerable to groups of in breeding, tribalists let en-masse into our societies who are not pre-disposed to reciprocate these tendencies. People who come from lands who run their deeply socially and genetically co-evolved mental sub-routines on different heuristics.
     
    Dead, dead on. Evolving the highest affective empathy in human history was a very powerful aid in building high-trust nations and pushing Europe ahead. But it makes us extremely vulnerable to exploitation by outsiders. Individual non-Westerners can be demographically absorbed in small numbers. But no foreign tribes should ever be allowed in, or worse allowed to propagate inside the West. It is absolutely devastating.

    Unless we can really turn things around in the next generation, this will have been our Achilles heel. (And the world will pass over to Chinese ownership. Depressing.)

    , @AnotherDad

    Unfortunately 2 devastating twentieth century wars have likely culled the gene pool of many of those best pre-disposed to drive Western society’s ‘immune’ response. Basically we are a bunch of pussies.
     
    I've wondered about this too. But while I haven't done the math, my understanding from reading the genetics guys is it is very hard for these sort of single events to move to the genetic needle much. And i'm not sure how much selection there is on the battlefield--the tough hombres may preferentially survive just as much as preferentially die--much less from aerial bombardment.

    I think the real deal is that women have been "liberated" to have a much bigger impact socially, culturally, politically. So literally "we are a bunch of pussies."
    , @Expletive Deleted
    I'm descended from the (single, only surviving) youngest brothers of my many vanished, maimed and childless great uncles. One grandad did manage to sneak in underage (15), but was found out and sent to serve out the war as RFC ground crew in Oxfordshire, another sent to back up the Black&Tans by the time he was old enough, after the continental war (as a teenage apprentice butcher in the cookhouse, calm down Fenians). One great grandad died attempting to relieve Kut-al-Amara, in the sandbox, but left behind an absolute herd of daughters (he was 37).

    By this hypothesis, kid brothers are invariably incrementally faggier than the firstborn.
    Smells like a /pol/-tier meme to me, but not inconceivable, being the oldest of four :¬)
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  5. bomag says:

    …into the abyss… Eventually something gets worked out.

    “On the plunge to the rocks below; after going over the cliff; the occupants of the car finally came to complete agreement that a wrong turn was taken earlier in the trip”

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    The E. in "Wile E. Coyote" must stand for Europe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGxf5sYdsU
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  6. But the top comments there are not sensible. Most praise Merkel’s decision for being merciful and open-hearted. Some wish a leader of her caliber for USA.

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    Gotta be careful with the comments to a Douthat column. Since he’s the resident conservative columnist he’s the focus of liberal hate towards conservatives. If you read some of the comments they don’t even engage the argument just attack him.

    Generally speaking NYT commentators were opposed to Merkel inviting millions of Muslims.
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  7. Yes I can. WAR. Sorry that triggers so many, but its not different this time, war is how we do.One of the lefts greatest victories is convincing us things are different this time, things as basic to human culture as war are somehow a thing of the past a thing westerners no longer do, can do, is even possible.But everything short of piling up leftist bodies is just more left ratchet.
    But be careful they have been winning wars since Runnymede. So think about that, and part of that thinking is what you will do after the war.Usually rightest re institute the lefts iteration of a generation removed. Demotism is leftism, that’s christianity democracy equality the whole cesspool.So if you think you’re a rightest because muh christian country and muh jeffersonian constitution, you really need a history lesson. We can keep theoretical meritocratic aristocracy over genetic aristocracy, but genes are going to flow and in practice the nuance will be lost. Alignment of elites to national over personal interests is the key. This is how it works because this is how it does work. Its biology all the way down. A nat- tion is a people a genetically distinct people, a family.this is the biological reality this is who’s competing for survival, you cant change this,all you can do is commit suicide.your culture is part of the biological feedback loop, in humans its part of the environment that selects us biologically. nature nurture is bullshit, culture is biology.so our cultures must be our own and support our own interests,this means keeping our elites in their place in the family.

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    How much did you have to drink before you posted your comment....?
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  8. Arclight says:

    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these ‘refugees’ as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    Right, the refugees have to go back. The situation in Iraq has been improving so some should be returning already. Although many of them are not from Iraq and Syria and aren't refugees in the first place. If it is going to take nine years to send back Haitians here after an earthquake, I'm not very hope Europe can get it done.
    , @Altai
    Because housing is so unaffordable, wages are so low and people spend more and more time in higher education to compensate. If only there hadn't been constant pressure in migration from within and without the EU, the situation would be much better. It's like that Economist piece Steve linked to months ago where they were simultaneously bemoaning the low birth rate and the cheapness of housing...

    Demographic transitions sort themselves out. Nations have gone through wars, famines, total social system collapses and survived. But 13 years of having to cut back on pensions is impossible. Okay...

    We've just gone through 10 years of (From the perspective of the Gen X/Yers) of economic depression and yet we've survived.

    There's plenty of times throughout history that countries go through population decline or stabilisation without any war, disease or famine, from recent to ancient history. Do people think populations keep expanding forever? It's only a problem when you let other groups encroach during that time.

    , @rogue-one
    It's practically impossible to remove them now. Once they start bringing their immediate family over their numbers would multiply by at least 5.

    They key questions would now be:

    1. How to stop future tide of migrants?
    2. How to absorb the ones that are already in here without destroying the country?
    , @Peter Akuleyev

    Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin's book was about. From my perspective Merkel just threw a few more sticks onto a raging fire, which is why I can't get as outraged about 2015 as some people here. I've been in Europe since 2008, and there were already a lot of Muslims here then, and new ones coming in constantly. Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor - she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    You're really not staring down at anything if you've decided that you don't care what happens two generations down the road. That's the underlying thing to this: do you really care what happens after you're gone?

    It almost brings up the question as to whether some see this mass change as a kind of redistributive justice that that they want brought about, but are too cowardly to inflict the brunt of on themselves, so they punish their descendents.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Arc, Justin Trudeau will welcome them into Canada with open arms. It's what he ran on. Of course then they will be positioned above our Northern border.
    , @AnotherDad

    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these ‘refugees’ as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Well said Arclight.

    Stopping is not enough, we need reversal. The scale of Merkel's madness in just insane. Even just this 2015 first million, while just a bit north of 1% of the German population, are pretty much all young men, so amount to about 1/10th of the male half of a German breeding generation (say 15-35). These guys--if allowed to stay--will either eventually get spouses from their home nations/cultures or displace German men in the mating market. (Likely mostly the former, but some of the later.) So in one yearMerkel has created a demographic nightmare for Germany on the scale of America's 200 years of African slavery.

    One of the problems we have in the West is our ruling class not only believes stupid egalitarian--"people are all the same"--bullshit, but that they are verbal thinkers--people who are often pretty innumerate, but almost entirely people who do not think in mathematical (or even hard logical) terms and create models or sanity tests to see if their ideas make any sense. They are basically pretty picture painters--pretty verbal picture painters.

    ~~

    This endlessly repeated "nation of immigrants" thing is the classic case. It just makes no sense. It's one thing to do the "y'all come on over and grab up this territory that we're taking from the natives"--America's 19th century immigration. That's historically normal. There's a name for it--"conquest". It runs for a while, as the conquerors fill in the territory--then it *stops*. But this idea of a "nation" that is always getting immigration is just mathematically/logically stupid. You must either be maintaining a reasonable population--with sub-replacement fertility--which means you are essentially genociding the existing inhabitants replacing them with outsiders. Or you are endlessly growing your nation until it becomes so crowded and unpleasant that it is in "misery-balance" with the rest of the world and no one else wants to come! This is just basic math. (Some combination of both is what is going on.)

    "A nation of immigrants" is just inherently/mathematically/logically an ideology of national destruction--even if all the "diversity!" and civilizational contention issues were tractable. It's people of high verbal IQ's pretty-picture/propaganda/wet-dream that doesn't pass any sort of sanity check. (Of course, no doubt some of these folks are aware and their intentions are just malevolent.)

    ~~
    Note: "misery-balance" is a pretty good AnotherDad phrase for the ultimate result of the West's open immigrastion policies. Encourage folks to use it in their outreach efforts.
    , @Anonymous
    Population GRAFT in every sense, brought to you by the CIA:

    https://twitter.com/Hail__To_You/status/933484303811571712
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  9. Maybe the Germans have begun to recognize that Merkel is Stalin in drag.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/06/angela-merkel-stalin-in-drag.html

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    Good essay. Merkel is a deranged and very dangerous leftist traitor.

    The Left are comprised of serious control freaks with a penchant for violence.

    Sick bastards that try to hide their sociopathic impulses with the mask of virtue.

    They will usher in their peaceful world of an egalitarian utopia--even if they have to kill you to do it.

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  10. Barnard says:
    @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    Right, the refugees have to go back. The situation in Iraq has been improving so some should be returning already. Although many of them are not from Iraq and Syria and aren’t refugees in the first place. If it is going to take nine years to send back Haitians here after an earthquake, I’m not very hope Europe can get it done.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Whether the situation is improving in their home countries, is irrelevant and not our concern. Germans need to deport Africans and Muslims no matter what is happening in their countries, or there will be no Germany as we know it. Same for France, Sweden, England, Austria, etc.
    , @Neoconned
    AWe should pursue policies similar to what Jewish and white ethnic elites in Chicago and the Bay Area pursue.....

    In California they water down Mexican/Latino political will and power by importing Asians and middle easterners....

    In Chicago they've invited in the Latin hordes to stifle black politicos and race hustlers and to have a benign laborer class who won't stir up shit and unionize like white working class types and blacks....

    Maybe we should invite in say the totality of the Arab Christian populations and resettle them in say Detroit, Baltimore, Philly etc.

    Bring in the Boers and all the white S. Africans who want to leave that shit continent.....

    Put them in Minnesota to blunt the somalis and in Illinois to blunt the Latino mob that bad brought our 5th largest state to the edge of bankruptcy....

    Dilution works better for the elites than us but if we have to have it why not play it to our advantage?

    Single white dude? How would you like a hot young Arab Christian or Boer wife to soothe your issues?

    At the end of the day I'd rather have Boers than somalis having my back and Arab Christians rather than Moslem Pakistanis....

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  11. Jake says:

    “Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.”

    Parliamentary systems work things out by the Elites of the factions making deals with one another to keep the system going. In that way, they gently ease the peoples they rule into increasing decadence, which just so happens to make certain the Elites keep getting richer.

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  12. Altai says:
    @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    Because housing is so unaffordable, wages are so low and people spend more and more time in higher education to compensate. If only there hadn’t been constant pressure in migration from within and without the EU, the situation would be much better. It’s like that Economist piece Steve linked to months ago where they were simultaneously bemoaning the low birth rate and the cheapness of housing…

    Demographic transitions sort themselves out. Nations have gone through wars, famines, total social system collapses and survived. But 13 years of having to cut back on pensions is impossible. Okay…

    We’ve just gone through 10 years of (From the perspective of the Gen X/Yers) of economic depression and yet we’ve survived.

    There’s plenty of times throughout history that countries go through population decline or stabilisation without any war, disease or famine, from recent to ancient history. Do people think populations keep expanding forever? It’s only a problem when you let other groups encroach during that time.

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    Yes, but in order for populations to recover from a decline, the conditions that first caused that decline must disappear. If we continue to experience permanent wage decline and rising costs of living, then kids will simply remain an unaffordable luxury for most native people, and the elites will just keep importing cheaper labor from the third world to replace us - this is race replacement in a nutshell. It's the result of conscious policy decisions; it's not something natural like a plague.
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  13. Germany stares into the abyss of …

    … well, actually, no, it doesn’t really stare into the abyss at all.

    Yeah, actually it does. No, the German GOVERNMENT isn’t facing the abyss, just the German people, demographically. So, if all Ross Douthat cares about in this case is that there be an official German government, yeah, OK, so what …

    Kudos to Anonymous #1 up there for pointing it out – this size government can’t be controlled by the people. We have the same problem with our huge Feral Beast of a government. A 5-10 page (depending on single vs. double spaced) piece of parchment that laid out the limits for the US government was followed pretty well for 175 years, but over the last 50, not enough people stood up for “muh Constitution”, and, well, here we are.

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??

    Yes, plenty of us have. The people running the country don’t care what we want though. Like that of Deutschland, our government is too big to fail … until the money fails. In the meantime enjoy your bread turkey with dressing and circuses football today folks.

    Happy Thanksgiving to the unz crowd, and I don’t mean that sarcastically. Most of us still have a lot to be thankful for, including Mr. Newman here, even with a country going to hell.

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  14. CK says:

    And meanwhile American TV is running a “drama” series, Berlin Station, about the CIA attempting to prevent the election of a conservative party leader in the German elections. The series has Ashley Judd as a main actress. It also has the required feisty young black female agent, the dorky cell phone hacking NSA genius, and a few other tropes so overworked as to be risible.
    It is MUST WATCH TV.

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  15. rogue-one says:
    @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    It’s practically impossible to remove them now. Once they start bringing their immediate family over their numbers would multiply by at least 5.

    They key questions would now be:

    1. How to stop future tide of migrants?
    2. How to absorb the ones that are already in here without destroying the country?

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    • Replies: @Glaivester
    It won't be impossible to remove them once the K-selection hits.
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  16. Counterpunch just published the single worst piece of opinion journalism ever: The Populism of Germany’s New Nazis which manages to use the word Nazi 43 times, claim that the AFD are Nazi tools of “neoliberalism” and insists that Trump (mentioned 11 times, also Nazi) is on the brink of suicide because his bullying hides “a weak psychological core.”

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  17. Lurker says:

    Some of us don’t think it was a mistake. Or only insofar as she boiled the German frog too quickly.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Really?

    "Bikinis or burkas"?
    , @RonaldB
    I was going to bring up that point but you beat me to it.

    The article takes liberties with the known facts by describing her decision to import immigrants as "rash". Simply because a sociopathic Stasi-graduate politician takes an action disastrous to her constituency, doesn't mean she didn't fully anticipate the consequences.

    We cannot know her internal motivations, but it doesn't matter. Her external actions and their consequences are there for anyone to see. If someone has a gun pointed towards you and is squeezing the trigger, it's not necessary to know whether they are insane, sociopathic, or criminal. Your response is the same in all cases, if you expect to survive.
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  18. @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin’s book was about. From my perspective Merkel just threw a few more sticks onto a raging fire, which is why I can’t get as outraged about 2015 as some people here. I’ve been in Europe since 2008, and there were already a lot of Muslims here then, and new ones coming in constantly. Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor – she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.

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    • Replies: @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor – she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.
     
    That is a really, really, really, interesting point.
    , @Anonymous

    Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.
     
    Too late, even if the people had the ability to control their fate. They don’t. And you know it’s a done deal, and inexorable, when (((they))) have now moved on to pulling out all stops for demographic change in Poland.
    , @The Alarmist

    "Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin’s book was about."
     
    The demographic abyss was always a myth. The increase of automation was reasonably foreseeable 60 years ago, but people didn't want to do shit-work and politicians didn't want to make hard choices that would stretch out social-welfare budgets to deal with the ponzi they had been left with by their grandparents, so they took the "easy and practical" route of importing slave labour from the third world, so now they really are staring into a demographic abyss of their parent's making.

    Let's hope the slaves will smother us gently in the care homes, because our children might be less kind about it.

    , @Steve Sailer
    Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor – she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change.

    Right. The photos of the marching Muslims were so palpable about what the Davos Person zeitgeist had in store for the average voter, which is one reason they are surprisingly hard to find anymore.
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  19. @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    You’re really not staring down at anything if you’ve decided that you don’t care what happens two generations down the road. That’s the underlying thing to this: do you really care what happens after you’re gone?

    It almost brings up the question as to whether some see this mass change as a kind of redistributive justice that that they want brought about, but are too cowardly to inflict the brunt of on themselves, so they punish their descendents.

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye

    That’s the underlying thing to this: do you really care what happens after you’re gone?
     
    Exactly - we have not even begun to think intelligently about what the slow death of Religion since the 1700s means at the systems level for Western Civilization.

    The Founding Fathers were keenly aware that a republic would work only with a population consciously rooted in Christian/Western values, but no other.

    , @Saint Louis

    It almost brings up the question as to whether some see this mass change as a kind of redistributive justice that that they want brought about, but are too cowardly to inflict the brunt of on themselves, so they punish their descendents.
     
    Correction: They punish our descendants. Cat ladies like Merkel won't have any descendants of their own.
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  20. TG says:

    Cheap labor uber alles.

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    abo is a trusted commenter
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    Many Americans seem very confused about what the liberal order entails. Those on the left, for instance the NYT Editorial Board, seem to think that an open immigration policy is an essential part. Here Douthat, in a hopelessly twisted piece of thinking, tries to make his conservative obsessions to be “liberal.” This, as best as I can put it, is what a liberal order actually means:
    1/ Freedom of thought and speech.
    2/ Freedom from fear
    3/ Freedom from want, and a community sharing in the benefits of prosperity
    4/ Freedom from arbitrary exertions of power, not only by government, but by corporations or any group or individual
    5/ Justice which is rule-based and clear, and allows adequate due process, in all facets of life, including work
    It’s too long to explain for a comment, but I don’t think the U.S. is satisfactory on any of these five points. Western Europe – read Merkel’s Germany, if you will -, while not perfect, is better on all of them.

    342 Recommend

    I personally suspect we’d have a lot less of – all the issues that come front-end-center at Unz – and which bedevil us in general, if we have a lot more of this commenter’s # 3.

    Conservatives, in particular, are responsible for the fact that we don’t. And it isn’t that they opposite “socialism”, it’s just who they select to be socialism’s beneficiaries.

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    Western Europe – read Merkel’s Germany, if you will -, while not perfect, is better on all of them.
     
    Sheer Kool-aid level delusion.
    , @MBlanc46
    Odd that all those Leftist billionaires—Gates, Zuckerberg, Steyer, various Pritzkers and Kennedys—haven’t gotten that sorted out long ago.
    , @El Dato
    I have just finished reading [Douglas] Murray's redpilling "The Strange Death of Europe" and he makes abundantly clear that "Freedom of thought and speech" as well as "Freedom from fear" have gone down the shitter and won't come back soon.

    As an European, voicing concern about population replacement and peculiar "traditions" alien to the continent means you get branded a fascist, then lawfared out of society. If you are a Muslim voicing those concerns, nobody will come to your defense, you will be attacked by anyone who has the megaphone, indeed you will need police protection lest some Salafist knives you in the street,

    Muslims who integrated well, foolishly thought "freedom of thought and speech" were more than empty words written on 100% recyclable toilet paper and came out against cultural practices of dubious value had to leave Europe after they did so. Refugees from the burning scrapheap While fiery Imams financed by Saudi Arabia are free to preach burninantion and takeover.

    Betrayal. Base betrayal. Politicians choosing mercy over justice because it's convenient and easily gets the vote. Confusing a nation with a hotel. Thinking resources are infinite (it's not like everyone is already deeply in the red and getting deeper; pensions are likely to be sparse or nonexistent) and economics can be ignored. Dumb children.

    May their daughters feel the consequences.
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  22. Neuday says:
    @Anonymous
    The Smaller the Political Unit, the Greater the Freedom.

    Lest there be any doubt about that, consider how much more of a voice you have in your own neighborhood association or town hall compared with that in your state house, not to mention national congress.

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??

    Also--nice title on this article, Steve. Variety is calling :)

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??

    Steve’s post just prior to this one alludes to the solution. Has something to do with mob violence, and punishing groups for the actions of their members. Probably won’t happen until there’s a severe economic downturn, but how likely is that?

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    Probably won’t happen until there’s a severe economic downturn, but how likely is that?
     
    I would say VERY likely, but it's more like GUARANTEED. You can't keep accumulating debt (as a nation, and as individuals) without it coming to an end, Neuday.
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  23. @Peter Akuleyev

    Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin's book was about. From my perspective Merkel just threw a few more sticks onto a raging fire, which is why I can't get as outraged about 2015 as some people here. I've been in Europe since 2008, and there were already a lot of Muslims here then, and new ones coming in constantly. Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor - she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.

    Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor – she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.

    That is a really, really, really, interesting point.

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    The main point of the Great Bumrush of 2015, is that anyone with a brain - an unbrainwashed Marxist brain, that is, was a mass act of *blatant criminality* as understood by any legal system that recognise property and trespass.
    The very very worst thing about it was the way the criminals, the aggressors were labelled the 'victims' and the way that their criminality was rewarded.
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  24. EH says:

    When I see his name I always wonder if his memoirs will be titled: I, Douthat.

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  25. Beckow says:

    “swiftly admit a million-odd migrants into the heart of Europe in 2015″

    That is looking only at the 2015 moment; it was a catastrophe, not a mistake. What really happened is that a few million Third World extended families were allowed – actually encouraged – to start their migration to Europe.

    The actual number in just Germany in 2015-16 was 1.2 million, 80-90% of them young men, 99% have been allowed to stay. Now the argument is about how quickly they can bring their families. But their extended families are coming, maybe over 3 years, or 5, or possibly as long as 10-12 years. The estimate on how many will come as part of ‘family reunification’ first phase is 3-7 million, wives, siblings, parents, children, grand-parents. And then on to phase two for in-laws, their parents, their siblings. This will go on and on, in 25 years you might have 10-20% of overall German population based on that trek – and in large cities, among young people it will be a majority.

    This was a managed population replacement. And it wasn’t managed that well. Merkel should be forced to stick around for the consequences, but I know the pleasures of a think-tank in Virginia countryside beckon…

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  26. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin's book was about. From my perspective Merkel just threw a few more sticks onto a raging fire, which is why I can't get as outraged about 2015 as some people here. I've been in Europe since 2008, and there were already a lot of Muslims here then, and new ones coming in constantly. Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor - she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.

    Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.

    Too late, even if the people had the ability to control their fate. They don’t. And you know it’s a done deal, and inexorable, when (((they))) have now moved on to pulling out all stops for demographic change in Poland.

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  27. Wally says:
    @Lurker
    Some of us don't think it was a mistake. Or only insofar as she boiled the German frog too quickly.

    Really?

    “Bikinis or burkas”?

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  28. George says:

    Merkel’s folly was allowing the global war on terror to be conducted in the European sphere of influence. Given enough time the destruction of Germany by the war was inevitable. You might say the Germans did apply the lessons of ww 1 & 2 to ww 3.

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  29. Douthat is too polite, instead of …”has finally come back to undercut Merkel directly” should be ” bite her on the ass.” Happy Thanksgiving friends. Enjoy your blessings.

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    For whatever it is worth, his politeness is quite helpful in opening the overton window. He might be making some ideas like borders acceptable in prestige press.
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  30. Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.

    “This (then) is the end – beautiful friend, the end (…)”

    (= robust parliamentarianism = the end of – – – history...).

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    "Robust parliamentarianism" means that the society has finally managed to completely stall with status quo elites performing a check-mate on the population...

    Great job, elites, you have reached the pinnacle. Nothing is allowed to move, except money goes offshore and migrants come in. Now what next?
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  31. @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    Arc, Justin Trudeau will welcome them into Canada with open arms. It’s what he ran on. Of course then they will be positioned above our Northern border.

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    Above the United States, which has had no migrant flows from dodgy parts of the muslim world?
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  32. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Diversity is a strength! (non whites moving into white places Only)
    Open Borders! (for white populations Only)
    Noone is Illegal! (where white people live Only)

    “Diversity is our strength” translates to “White people are our weakness”
    Open Borders is the White ‘Privilege’

    Thats how we know Anti racist is code for Anti white
    Thats how we know Diversity is code for W- G-

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  33. Beckow says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.
     
    "This (then) is the end - beautiful friend, the end (...)"

    (= robust parliamentarianism = the end of - - - history...).

    Robust parliamentarianism” means that the society has finally managed to completely stall with status quo elites performing a check-mate on the population…

    Great job, elites, you have reached the pinnacle. Nothing is allowed to move, except money goes offshore and migrants come in. Now what next?

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  34. RonaldB says:
    @Lurker
    Some of us don't think it was a mistake. Or only insofar as she boiled the German frog too quickly.

    I was going to bring up that point but you beat me to it.

    The article takes liberties with the known facts by describing her decision to import immigrants as “rash”. Simply because a sociopathic Stasi-graduate politician takes an action disastrous to her constituency, doesn’t mean she didn’t fully anticipate the consequences.

    We cannot know her internal motivations, but it doesn’t matter. Her external actions and their consequences are there for anyone to see. If someone has a gun pointed towards you and is squeezing the trigger, it’s not necessary to know whether they are insane, sociopathic, or criminal. Your response is the same in all cases, if you expect to survive.

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    The article takes liberties with the known facts by describing her decision to import immigrants as “rash”. Simply because a sociopathic Stasi-graduate politician takes an action disastrous to her constituency, doesn’t mean she didn’t fully anticipate the consequences.
    We cannot know her internal motivations, but it doesn’t matter. Her external actions and their consequences are there for anyone to see.
     
    Good comment. May I add some further context?

    From the German Federal Government website, 2010:

    European Prize for the Chancellor
    The European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi has awarded Chancellor Angela Merkel the European Prize 2010. The prize is awarded every two years for exceptional contributions to the European unification process.

    Angela Merkel is the second German head of government (after Helmut Kohl who received the prize in 1990) to be awarded this prize.

    The European Prize is based on the vision of the diplomat, philosopher and publisher Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi. His family had its roots in several European countries. In 1922 Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi founded the Paneuropean Union, the oldest European unification movement... For this, he is deemed the founder of the modern democratic vision of Europe.

    The Coudenhove-Kalergi Foundation was established in 1978 by the Paneuropean Union to strengthen the vision of European unification. In 2008 it became a society, with headquarters in Vienna.

    Angela Merkel praised the consistent work of the European Society in fostering the European idea and the European unification process.
     
    So this European Society which honoured Angela Merkel is the former Coudenhove-Kalergi Foundation, which was established by the Paneuropean Union, which was founded by Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi to further what has become known as "The Kalergi Plan": the creation of a unified "mixed-race" European Union.

    From Wikipedia:

    In his book Praktischer Idealismus (Practical Idealism), written in 1925, Coudenhove-Kalergi describes the future of Jews in Europe and of European racial composition with the following words:

    "The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals. [...]

    Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit.

    This happened at the moment when Europe's feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation".
     
    Merkel's extraordinary action in inviting any self-identifying "refugees" into Europe may have been "rash". It may even have been, in Lurker's word, a "mistake". But the fact that it furthers the aims of Coudenhove-Kalergi's PanEuropean Union hints at one possible “internal motivation” for her remarkable persistence.
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  35. @Buffalo Joe
    Arc, Justin Trudeau will welcome them into Canada with open arms. It's what he ran on. Of course then they will be positioned above our Northern border.

    Above the United States, which has had no migrant flows from dodgy parts of the muslim world?

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  36. Yak-15 says:

    Douhat is garbage. He is trotted out as an easily beatable loser with opinions that lack the teeth of the alt-right. He is like Alan Combes from Hannity & Combes – an identifiable caricature of the opposite side with flimsy arguments. He is there to lose.

    The republicans of the last 40 years have been the same – cultural losers.

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    Anyone who happily identifies as a contented Republican these days is to be reviled.
    , @Anonymous
    You are exactly right, and this is a favorite technique of political propagandists. Relatively few can recognize it on sight.
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  37. pyrrhus says:

    The title recalls C.M.Kornbluth’s classic “The Marching Morons”, which fits right into the picture of Germany, and the West, being taken over by dangerous low IQ 3d worlders…

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  38. Sam says:

    Let me deliver a black bill from the future of immigration skepticism
    Douthat’s point is exactly what should inspire fear among dissidents on the right. In the country that is furthest ahead in the immigration debate in the West, Denmark, the political establishment has absorbed quite a bit of the immigration skeptics. However the first big succesful immigration skeptic party here in Denmark have not been able to turn things around in terms of numbers. Their success has mostly been in legitimising skepticism, a few restrictionist laws, invoking culture war rhetoric in integration debates but that is about it.

    The Steve Sailer’s and Brimelow’s of Denmark are frightened because they know that net immigration from the third world has been positive in all those years(2001-2017) where the skeptics were coalition partners with the government. Because of the international and EU refugee laws the party hasn’t been able to change the numbers and have been unwilling to admit this and take the battle. Instead, they maintained respectability by not addressing this and instead raising culture war topics to cover for this failure. The media doesn’t bring it up because in their narrative there is no such thing as a critique coming from the immigration skeptic right. So immigration patriots have simply been content voting for this party without tangible benefits and without knowing better until recently…

    The only good story I can tell is that since last year a poll came up showing a hunger for a immigration skeptic party to right of our current one to the consternation of the media. This party has now emerged and they are willing to challenge international conventions and are outright calling for an end to third world immigration. But this entire process has taken 17 years and that the real solution could only be implemented if they do well enough at the next elections. Granted, every immigration skeptic party’s success in West legitimises it in other countries.(Which is why Trump winning was a major symbolic victory even if he does nothing at all) So Denmark is paving the way but it it is important to note that rhetorical changes takes a while not to mention policy change.

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    The Sailer's and Brimelow's of the world are terrified of where this thing inexorably ends: Bosnia on steroids. Right now there is a lack of seriousness on their part as they refuse to admit we are in a civil war.
    , @AnotherDad


    However the first big succesful immigration skeptic party here in Denmark have not been able to turn things around in terms of numbers.
     
    Depressing, but informative post Sam, thanks. In the West now, even where the politics has improved the most we haven't even reached the "stop digging" level of sanity.

    This is *the* deal with making these bad demographic decisions. You screw up and make a demographic mistake and the consequences are very, very hard to turn around, to fix.

    This is the price that must be paid when you lower your guard and do ridiculous anti-historical, anti-biological stuff like letting your territory be invaded by a foreign tribe. Even the tiniest slip creates a major problem that can be a nightmare to clean up and could well destroy your civilization.

    We are in a war for our civilization. The first step is to call out the evil being done and raise consciousness. Then hopefully win politically to get "stop digging" policies. But there's no way around the fact, that at root to save the West we're going to have to win some sort of civil war--whether hot or not--against those that would destroy us.
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  39. Clyde says:

    I always like witty alliteration.

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  40. Luke Lea says:

    OT, but who is this guy Granville Thorndyke? Can’t find anything about him on Google, but obviously an artist of a very high order. Anybody know much about him? https://goo.gl/FsZpgK

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    He's great, very effective. All I know is he's Irish and "Granville Thorndyke" isn't his real name.
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  41. Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.

    One of the ways to tell when a crisis or turning point is at hand is when events that ordinarily would have been handled by routine political processes suddenly take on metapolitical significance. Or more accurately, vice versa: The abstract, comprehensive, far-ranging visions, which before where only discussed academically and played little role in the quotidian world of day-to-day politics, suddenly become the slogans of clashing forces of blood and iron.

    Merkel’s Boner is still being handled in the realm of the routine, both in how it is characterized and how it is responded to; it has not acquired crisis-like qualities yet. But by classifying its various interpretations, we might obtain some insight into what it truly is, as well as into what is the real metapolitical conflict of our time.

    We’ve heard Merkel’s invasion variously decribed as:

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).

    2) Part of broader plot by the elites to affect the race replacement of White European Christendom, and to deracinate Western peoples as part of a “divide and conquer” strategy, possibly at the behest of Israel and/or the global financial cartel (this one commits the common cognitive error of assuming an intentional cause from an observed effect).

    3) A side effect of liberal PC brainwashing, sentimentality, and a degenerate post-Christian morality that needs to virtue-signal by elevating and favoring “the other.”

    4) A humanitarian relief effort aiming to provide comfort to those displaced by wars and poverty throughout the Middle East and Africa (this one is an obvious fig leaf, as such aid could have been provided in situ at a fraction of the cost of the invasion).

    5) An economic gambit that makes bold to supplement Germany’s declining workforce (and consumer base) with millions of mostly young workers transported en masse from “the provinces” (the Western world looks upon the rest of the globe as its rightful spoil) to the heart of the Empire.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics. Numbers 1 & 2 are individual subjective reactions to the real distress caused by the invasion which the individual is powerless to overcome. Lacking the ability to discharge itself in effective countermeasures, the stress bursts forth in a dream-cloud of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking. Like all good conspiracy theories, they maintain the Fortean quality of being heuristically useful but factually underdetermined. Number 3 is more of a collateral predicate condition than an actual cause, and is logically not dissimilar to the construction that ‘X is Hamlet’ follows from ‘X is the Prince of Denmark’—true but trivial. Number 4 is a public relations stunt, a cover story designed to provide the agents with immunity from criticism as they proceed with whatever their real objective is. Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.

    But to say that it was rational does not mean that it was prudent, as it clearly was not. It completely failed to take account of anything that could not be justified by appealing to graphs of population curves or GDP. This, I believe, provides the key to unlocking the real metapolitical struggle.

    The essence of it can be described as what James Burnham referred to as the Managerial Revolution. The elites who govern the Western world today are trained to think in terms of aggregates and statistics. They ascend to their position either through the upper ranks of business and finance (where such thinking is a matter of course), or, as is more common, directly through the technocratic bureaucracy itself, which from its inception has operated as a vast data collecting and analyzing firm. The very act of governing itself has come to be seen as a sort of crossword puzzle played out with socioeconomic and demographic data sets. Merkel’s Boner was nothing but an attempt (a rather crude one) to apply the same style of thinking to Germany’s very real demographic collapse whilst pathetically paying lip service to the currents of popular sentimentality. In every respect, it is the like image of the tiresome pageants that transpire in the corporate world a hundred times a day.

    The metapolitical struggle, then, can only be between those who still wish to apply managerial thinking to the problems of politics, and those who do not wish to do so. The alternative to Merkel cannot be another technocratic solution of a different flavor, but a grand gesture which takes no account of GDP, unemployment figures, or mean life expectancy. It has to be something which values the symbolism of a free and independent Germany above all the economic aggregates in the world.

    Yet what do we find within us or around us to provide the basis for such symbolism? That is the question around which the resurgent Right has hitherto stalled.

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    Who imports ILLITERATE AGGRESSIVE MUSLIMS as replacement workers? Why import Africans and Afghans because there was a crisis in Syria?

    Why not hire hard-working, peaceful, pork-loving Chinese? Is China still suffering from a population shortage?

    , @Bronxite
    Merkel had visited the KUKA A.G. Robotics factory in the spring of 2015; even had a publicity foto of herself with an industrial robot. The traitoress was well aware of the automation of german industry & the declining need for skilled workers. Of course none of the turd world invaders have any skill nor capability/ desire to acquire them.

    German experience with the turkish guest workers , documented in thilo sarrazin's book is also well known to her. The childless stasi Merkel is a traitor; plain and simple.

    Her vaunted intelligence is also ersatz. After fukushima earthquake, merkel decided to get rid of german nuclear power plants ; using green renewables. Germany now has highest electricity costs in europe ; now uses lignite, low quality -high pollutant brown coal ; strip mined, to supplement the failing wind/ solar energie wande. Google destruction of german villages by lignite mining to get even more disgusted


    The high electricity costs coupled with paris climate treaty are threatening german auto insdustry; so likely the remaining juncker class have decided enough is enough of this insane bitch. To add to their difficulties, merkel and brood sow defense minister ursula von der leyen ( six kids - thats good) also reduced german arms industry , to be more peaceful.

    This was a high paying job , export industry ; and the forced reduction in size of arms exports has cost tens of thousands of jobs in germany. can only hope that the stranglehold on german media can be broken; and normal person can save them. Merkel also severely reduced the size of german armed forces and DJT rightly called them
    Out on it. Eg: only a few hundred active tanks in army now.

    , @Samuel Skinner

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).
     
    This is to explain the actions of Western Women, not Merkel. Merkel presumably is old enough that the tingles are no longer a major determination in her actions.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics.
     
    You missed the obvious- it will help her get reelected. With the new immigrants there was an increase in crime and as the right most party she could do 'tough on crime' while the more leftists one were unwilling or unable to adopt such policies. She also increased the amount of demand for lawyers and other important constituents.

    Yes, politicians are cartoonishly evil. Do not look for a moral compass in our leaders- you are better off appealing to Stalin or Hitler's better nature.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.
     
    I know it’s Thanksgiving, but please, put down the TLDR Butterknife.

    Your #5 Economic Gambit is actually most convoluted theory. There was / is no grand “economic gambit” to employ migrants in any meaningful way. Even Swedish news presenters knew pre-MMMMM (Merkel’s Malevolent Mangy Mufti Merkin) that the European “kebab technician” market was already completely saturated:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBikVeW42CI

    What we’re seeing is the continuation of a Cold Civil War (getting warmer) with anti-whites—ethnomasochist and otherwise—in all Western countries successfully intending to “rub the Right’s noses in diversity.” That would be your listed reason #2, backed by the cat lady vanity and sentiments of #3 and #4. I agree reason #1 is mostly bogus, probably the result of imbibing too much Whiskey.

    In summation, you would rather See No Evil, therefore your mind seeks tortuously verbose yet benign explanations. Open your eyes.
    , @Desiderius
    Merkel’s Boner as The Office wrought large. I think you’re on to something.

    Take note, it wasn’t the population at large that was to be deracinated, only the ruling class, and also ostensibly for their own good. Also Office-level thinking as it happens.
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  42. @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these ‘refugees’ as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    Well said Arclight.

    Stopping is not enough, we need reversal. The scale of Merkel’s madness in just insane. Even just this 2015 first million, while just a bit north of 1% of the German population, are pretty much all young men, so amount to about 1/10th of the male half of a German breeding generation (say 15-35). These guys–if allowed to stay–will either eventually get spouses from their home nations/cultures or displace German men in the mating market. (Likely mostly the former, but some of the later.) So in one yearMerkel has created a demographic nightmare for Germany on the scale of America’s 200 years of African slavery.

    One of the problems we have in the West is our ruling class not only believes stupid egalitarian–”people are all the same”–bullshit, but that they are verbal thinkers–people who are often pretty innumerate, but almost entirely people who do not think in mathematical (or even hard logical) terms and create models or sanity tests to see if their ideas make any sense. They are basically pretty picture painters–pretty verbal picture painters.

    ~~

    This endlessly repeated “nation of immigrants” thing is the classic case. It just makes no sense. It’s one thing to do the “y’all come on over and grab up this territory that we’re taking from the natives”–America’s 19th century immigration. That’s historically normal. There’s a name for it–”conquest”. It runs for a while, as the conquerors fill in the territory–then it *stops*. But this idea of a “nation” that is always getting immigration is just mathematically/logically stupid. You must either be maintaining a reasonable population–with sub-replacement fertility–which means you are essentially genociding the existing inhabitants replacing them with outsiders. Or you are endlessly growing your nation until it becomes so crowded and unpleasant that it is in “misery-balance” with the rest of the world and no one else wants to come! This is just basic math. (Some combination of both is what is going on.)

    “A nation of immigrants” is just inherently/mathematically/logically an ideology of national destruction–even if all the “diversity!” and civilizational contention issues were tractable. It’s people of high verbal IQ’s pretty-picture/propaganda/wet-dream that doesn’t pass any sort of sanity check. (Of course, no doubt some of these folks are aware and their intentions are just malevolent.)

    ~~
    Note: “misery-balance” is a pretty good AnotherDad phrase for the ultimate result of the West’s open immigrastion policies. Encourage folks to use it in their outreach efforts.

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    It's staring you in the face:

    This endlessly repeated “nation of immigrants” thing is the classic case. It just makes no sense. It’s one thing to do the “y’all come on over and grab up this territory that we’re taking from the natives”–America’s 19th century immigration. That’s historically normal. There’s a name for it–”conquest”.
     
    The classic case, historically normal, known as "conquest." And you say, "Stop the merry-go-round, I wanna get off." And they say, "Lie back and think of England."
    , @Anonymous

    Stopping is not enough, we need reversal.
     
    You've inspired me to create a graphic. I'll be putting it on Twitter soon; meanwhile feel free to use at will.

    https://image.ibb.co/hhrNXm/flood_sign_rs.jpg

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  43. snorlax says:

    Thank you Steve for not referring to it as Merkel’s Boner, which is one of the less pleasant mental images you could conjure up. (Jeffrey Tambor may disagree).

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  44. Zer Expert’s Hasbaranation To The Rescue, Or How The Biggest Little Country In The World Refuses To Have Any Connection With Sailer’s ‘Five M’ Title :

    Good one, Mrs. Hotovely, prrretty, prrretty good one:

    “Why does America belong to Americans and Israel does not belong to Israelis?” Israeli deputy foreign minister Tzipi Hotovely said.

    “Why?”

    https://thetab.com/us/princeton/2017/11/07/controversial-israeli-minister-still-speaks-at-princeton-after-hillel-withdraws-sponsorship-5513

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  45. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Of course, the AfD party are much more ‘natural’ allies of the CDU rather than those, frankly, flaky and unhinged neo-maoists in disguise, the so-called ‘Greens’.
    Also on the right-wing spectrum of German politics are the Free Democrats.
    So, there’s a sound, solid potential government there in the waiting – only silly and outdated taboos stop it. If the current impasse leads to the begrudged acceptance of the main planks of the AfD platform, then so much the better. But rely on the fools, cowards, creeps and dimwits of the CDU to accommodate the hard-left rather than embrace their natural partners – and the wishes of the German people.

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  46. Mr. Anon says:

    OT: American mercenaries are alleged to be involved in Saudi crackdown:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5108651/American-mercenaries-torturing-Saudi-princes.html

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  47. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor – she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.
     
    That is a really, really, really, interesting point.

    The main point of the Great Bumrush of 2015, is that anyone with a brain – an unbrainwashed Marxist brain, that is, was a mass act of *blatant criminality* as understood by any legal system that recognise property and trespass.
    The very very worst thing about it was the way the criminals, the aggressors were labelled the ‘victims’ and the way that their criminality was rewarded.

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    There's a video I watched recently where a somewhat masculine, female interlocuter is talking with Camille Paglia and the former brings up the subject of trans.
    Now - I don't know the person or politics or anything about the former, but to judge by appearance, it's not a person you'd see in a store and suspect of right-wing sympathies.
    Yet here she was, being interlocuter for Paglia, and she brings up trans, and specifically what she has to say and ask about it is, "what's really going on here?" where the upshot is that to any passably fair observer on any side of the fence: it just doesn't add up. Parents making a decision to make a life-altering choice for their pre-adolescent children and surgery ... doesn't add up; parents deciding to expose their children to drugs to postpone puberty so they can "choose" later on when adult ... doesn't add up; authorities who seem to have more authority than objecting parents if a child ideates interest in any of this ... doesn't add up; that anyone so much as questioning this out loud, publicly, is excoriated, as if it were a closed and settled matter ... doesn't add up.

    All the while: remember who was doing the asking.
    It was powerful. Just observing, calmly, articulately, that there are a set of facts, and noting without much emotion that "nope, doesn't seem to add up". Very powerful. Powerful especially with the people it needs to be powerful with ... which are the silent, complicit ... those are the trend-tippers we need to reach - the masses who are silent, and complicit ... you will note that they observe anger, emotion, hyperbole, and the (rationally) compute: he's not getting anywhere with that ... hmmm ... what does that mean?

    "Great Bumrush of 2015", "was a mass act of *blatant criminality*" (double-emphasis in original) ... all of that may not serve to advance your argument and increase respect for your concerns, as much as you probably expect that it needs to.

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  48. @Peter Akuleyev

    Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin's book was about. From my perspective Merkel just threw a few more sticks onto a raging fire, which is why I can't get as outraged about 2015 as some people here. I've been in Europe since 2008, and there were already a lot of Muslims here then, and new ones coming in constantly. Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor - she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.

    “Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin’s book was about.”

    The demographic abyss was always a myth. The increase of automation was reasonably foreseeable 60 years ago, but people didn’t want to do shit-work and politicians didn’t want to make hard choices that would stretch out social-welfare budgets to deal with the ponzi they had been left with by their grandparents, so they took the “easy and practical” route of importing slave labour from the third world, so now they really are staring into a demographic abyss of their parent’s making.

    Let’s hope the slaves will smother us gently in the care homes, because our children might be less kind about it.

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    Actually, the 'refugees' (bumrushers) are reliable *massive* fiscal liabilities.
    Anyone who argues otherwise is either a fool or a liar.
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  49. Crunching Hate Figures & Facts

    bored identity wishes Happy Thanksgiving to all Sailerites , and Happy Thankstaking to…well:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-usa-jews/israeli-official-under-fire-for-comments-on-american-jews-military-service-idUSKBN1DN18O?il=0

    https://qz.com/411623/the-names-of-the-6828-americans-who-have-died-in-afghanistan-and-iraq/

    https://www.thebalance.com/the-cost-of-war-3356924 *

    * Crunching Hate Figures & Facts Could Make Your Righteous Among International Blush Like

    Casualties Among the Races:

    Whites make up 75 percent of the U.S. population (ages 18-44), and 67 percent of the total DOD force, but experienced 75 percent of the combat casualties.

    Among the 18-44 age-group Blacks make up 12 percent of the U.S. population, 17 percent of the total DOD force, and experienced greater than 9 percent of the total casualties.

    Hispanics comprise 14 percent of the population, 9 percent of the total DOD force and had 10 percent of the casualties.

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    Whites go into combat arms for the college money, blacks go into support functions for skills training and a 20-year career with pension and health benefits, Hispanics are a mix of both.
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  50. Forbes says:

    And no move has contributed so much to the disturbances since — the worsening of Europe’s terrorism problem, the shock of Brexit and the rise of Trump, and the growing divide between the E.U.’s Franco-German core and its eastern nations.

    Douthat observes that Merkel’s move, he believes, set in motion the dominoes that are knocking down the Globalist agenda. But his list of disturbances are symptoms–so-called unintended consequences–of that Globalism.

    This Globalism turns every wage earner into an interchangeable economic widget competing for scraps left on the table after Western elites have pushed back with their bellies full. Also left unmentioned by Douthat are the ravages of government interest rate policies that have destroyed long-term savings and pensions in order to keep government spending and securities markets on full boil–as if governments can borrow and spend their way to Nirvana. Shockingly, the phrase ‘income inequality’ is never mentioned. It’s a rather superficial analysis meant to buck up the “custodians of the liberal order”–as if sweeping up dust bunnies was a suitable substitute for draining the swamp.

    Rather than defend Globalism, Douthat prefers to defend the “understandable talk about the crisis of liberalism.” Yet his defense amounts to the assumption that the opponents of the modern liberal governing order are weak and ineffectual, claiming Trump a political weakling, and citing Marine Le Pen as unable to top 35%. Meanwhile, Trump is president, and Merkel’s party pulled down 32.9%.

    Douthat’s to-do list for Europe includes making peace with Brexit, ceasing political centralization, breaking up the culture cartels, embracing religion… In other words, all is well, assuming Angela Merkel turns into Margaret Thatcher.

    Douthat’s coup de grace is “the careful management of migrant flows” as the new euphemism for open borders.

    But who can blame Douthat, everyone on the Upper West Side will be discussing his column with full bellies on Thanksgiving.

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  51. Lurker says:
    @Luke Lea
    OT, but who is this guy Granville Thorndyke? Can't find anything about him on Google, but obviously an artist of a very high order. Anybody know much about him? https://goo.gl/FsZpgK

    He’s great, very effective. All I know is he’s Irish and “Granville Thorndyke” isn’t his real name.

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  52. rogue-one says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    Douthat is too polite, instead of ..."has finally come back to undercut Merkel directly" should be " bite her on the ass." Happy Thanksgiving friends. Enjoy your blessings.

    For whatever it is worth, his politeness is quite helpful in opening the overton window. He might be making some ideas like borders acceptable in prestige press.

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  53. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Cheap labor ain’t cheap. The original cheap labor, African slaves, are still an issue over a hundred-fifty years after the bloody Civil War and emancipation. Once implanted the problem just goes on and on. Of course, cheap labor may not have been the main reason for Merkel’s actions but rather deeper, more sinister ones may have been the goal, that of weakening and demolishing the various nationalities of Europe. Who knows how independent she really is. The US had her personal phone tapped, a huge trangression against a supposed “ally” yet she went ahead and met with Obama, sitting with him for photo shoots, showing who was the boss and who was the subservient one.

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  54. @Anonymous
    The main point of the Great Bumrush of 2015, is that anyone with a brain - an unbrainwashed Marxist brain, that is, was a mass act of *blatant criminality* as understood by any legal system that recognise property and trespass.
    The very very worst thing about it was the way the criminals, the aggressors were labelled the 'victims' and the way that their criminality was rewarded.

    There’s a video I watched recently where a somewhat masculine, female interlocuter is talking with Camille Paglia and the former brings up the subject of trans.
    Now – I don’t know the person or politics or anything about the former, but to judge by appearance, it’s not a person you’d see in a store and suspect of right-wing sympathies.
    Yet here she was, being interlocuter for Paglia, and she brings up trans, and specifically what she has to say and ask about it is, “what’s really going on here?” where the upshot is that to any passably fair observer on any side of the fence: it just doesn’t add up. Parents making a decision to make a life-altering choice for their pre-adolescent children and surgery … doesn’t add up; parents deciding to expose their children to drugs to postpone puberty so they can “choose” later on when adult … doesn’t add up; authorities who seem to have more authority than objecting parents if a child ideates interest in any of this … doesn’t add up; that anyone so much as questioning this out loud, publicly, is excoriated, as if it were a closed and settled matter … doesn’t add up.

    All the while: remember who was doing the asking.
    It was powerful. Just observing, calmly, articulately, that there are a set of facts, and noting without much emotion that “nope, doesn’t seem to add up”. Very powerful. Powerful especially with the people it needs to be powerful with … which are the silent, complicit … those are the trend-tippers we need to reach – the masses who are silent, and complicit … you will note that they observe anger, emotion, hyperbole, and the (rationally) compute: he’s not getting anywhere with that … hmmm … what does that mean?

    “Great Bumrush of 2015″, “was a mass act of *blatant criminality*” (double-emphasis in original) … all of that may not serve to advance your argument and increase respect for your concerns, as much as you probably expect that it needs to.

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  55. @Sam
    Let me deliver a black bill from the future of immigration skepticism
    Douthat's point is exactly what should inspire fear among dissidents on the right. In the country that is furthest ahead in the immigration debate in the West, Denmark, the political establishment has absorbed quite a bit of the immigration skeptics. However the first big succesful immigration skeptic party here in Denmark have not been able to turn things around in terms of numbers. Their success has mostly been in legitimising skepticism, a few restrictionist laws, invoking culture war rhetoric in integration debates but that is about it.

    The Steve Sailer's and Brimelow's of Denmark are frightened because they know that net immigration from the third world has been positive in all those years(2001-2017) where the skeptics were coalition partners with the government. Because of the international and EU refugee laws the party hasn't been able to change the numbers and have been unwilling to admit this and take the battle. Instead, they maintained respectability by not addressing this and instead raising culture war topics to cover for this failure. The media doesn't bring it up because in their narrative there is no such thing as a critique coming from the immigration skeptic right. So immigration patriots have simply been content voting for this party without tangible benefits and without knowing better until recently...

    The only good story I can tell is that since last year a poll came up showing a hunger for a immigration skeptic party to right of our current one to the consternation of the media. This party has now emerged and they are willing to challenge international conventions and are outright calling for an end to third world immigration. But this entire process has taken 17 years and that the real solution could only be implemented if they do well enough at the next elections. Granted, every immigration skeptic party's success in West legitimises it in other countries.(Which is why Trump winning was a major symbolic victory even if he does nothing at all) So Denmark is paving the way but it it is important to note that rhetorical changes takes a while not to mention policy change.

    The Sailer’s and Brimelow’s of the world are terrified of where this thing inexorably ends: Bosnia on steroids. Right now there is a lack of seriousness on their part as they refuse to admit we are in a civil war.

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    I would not say that. Brimelow has said open borders will lead to blood.

    Sailer has been way ahead of the curve on pointing out the utter stupidity and traitorous behavior of the elites favoring open borders.

    I do not see a lack of seriousness in either men.

    I see heroic men who have spent their lives on the margins trying to alert people that the sky is indeed falling.

    And like all prophets they have gotten little thanks for their efforts.
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  56. Forbes says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    This is the top comment (as of now) by both NYT pick and reader pick with 342 "Recommend"

    abo is a trusted commenter
    Paris 1 day ago

    Many Americans seem very confused about what the liberal order entails. Those on the left, for instance the NYT Editorial Board, seem to think that an open immigration policy is an essential part. Here Douthat, in a hopelessly twisted piece of thinking, tries to make his conservative obsessions to be "liberal." This, as best as I can put it, is what a liberal order actually means:
    1/ Freedom of thought and speech.
    2/ Freedom from fear
    3/ Freedom from want, and a community sharing in the benefits of prosperity
    4/ Freedom from arbitrary exertions of power, not only by government, but by corporations or any group or individual
    5/ Justice which is rule-based and clear, and allows adequate due process, in all facets of life, including work
    It's too long to explain for a comment, but I don't think the U.S. is satisfactory on any of these five points. Western Europe - read Merkel's Germany, if you will -, while not perfect, is better on all of them.

    342 Recommend
     

    I personally suspect we'd have a lot less of - all the issues that come front-end-center at Unz - and which bedevil us in general, if we have a lot more of this commenter's # 3.

    Conservatives, in particular, are responsible for the fact that we don't. And it isn't that they opposite "socialism", it's just who they select to be socialism's beneficiaries.

    Western Europe – read Merkel’s Germany, if you will -, while not perfect, is better on all of them.

    Sheer Kool-aid level delusion.

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  57. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @The Alarmist

    "Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin’s book was about."
     
    The demographic abyss was always a myth. The increase of automation was reasonably foreseeable 60 years ago, but people didn't want to do shit-work and politicians didn't want to make hard choices that would stretch out social-welfare budgets to deal with the ponzi they had been left with by their grandparents, so they took the "easy and practical" route of importing slave labour from the third world, so now they really are staring into a demographic abyss of their parent's making.

    Let's hope the slaves will smother us gently in the care homes, because our children might be less kind about it.

    Actually, the ‘refugees’ (bumrushers) are reliable *massive* fiscal liabilities.
    Anyone who argues otherwise is either a fool or a liar.

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    I was going to add, "or a politician," but on reflection "fool" and "liar" both cover politicians in many fashions.
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  58. Forbes says:
    @bored identity
    Crunching Hate Figures & Facts

    bored identity wishes Happy Thanksgiving to all Sailerites , and Happy Thankstaking to...well:

    https://youtu.be/MZ-ELTSytuc

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-usa-jews/israeli-official-under-fire-for-comments-on-american-jews-military-service-idUSKBN1DN18O?il=0

    https://qz.com/411623/the-names-of-the-6828-americans-who-have-died-in-afghanistan-and-iraq/

    https://www.thebalance.com/the-cost-of-war-3356924 *

    * Crunching Hate Figures & Facts Could Make Your Righteous Among International Blush Like


    Casualties Among the Races:

    Whites make up 75 percent of the U.S. population (ages 18-44), and 67 percent of the total DOD force, but experienced 75 percent of the combat casualties.

    Among the 18-44 age-group Blacks make up 12 percent of the U.S. population, 17 percent of the total DOD force, and experienced greater than 9 percent of the total casualties.

    Hispanics comprise 14 percent of the population, 9 percent of the total DOD force and had 10 percent of the casualties.

    Whites go into combat arms for the college money, blacks go into support functions for skills training and a 20-year career with pension and health benefits, Hispanics are a mix of both.

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  59. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Arclight
    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these 'refugees' as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.

    Population GRAFT in every sense, brought to you by the CIA:

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  60. * Would Crunching Guberment-Originated Hate Figures & Facts On This Thanksgiving Make Your Average Righteous Among Internationals Blush Like A Cranberry ?

    * https://www.defense.gov/casualty.pdf

    US War on Terrorism Military Casualties Among the Races 2001-2017:

    ” Whites make up 75 percent of the U.S. population (ages 18-44), and 67 percent of the total DOD force, but experienced 75 percent of the combat casualties.

    Among the 18-44 age-group Blacks make up 12 percent of the U.S. population, 17 percent of the total DOD force, and experienced greater than 9 percent of the total casualties.

    Hispanics comprise 14 percent of the population, 9 percent of the total DOD force and had 10 percent of the casualties.”

    protip: It’s OK To Be Blunt.

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  61. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.
     
    One of the ways to tell when a crisis or turning point is at hand is when events that ordinarily would have been handled by routine political processes suddenly take on metapolitical significance. Or more accurately, vice versa: The abstract, comprehensive, far-ranging visions, which before where only discussed academically and played little role in the quotidian world of day-to-day politics, suddenly become the slogans of clashing forces of blood and iron.

    Merkel's Boner is still being handled in the realm of the routine, both in how it is characterized and how it is responded to; it has not acquired crisis-like qualities yet. But by classifying its various interpretations, we might obtain some insight into what it truly is, as well as into what is the real metapolitical conflict of our time.

    We've heard Merkel's invasion variously decribed as:

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).

    2) Part of broader plot by the elites to affect the race replacement of White European Christendom, and to deracinate Western peoples as part of a "divide and conquer" strategy, possibly at the behest of Israel and/or the global financial cartel (this one commits the common cognitive error of assuming an intentional cause from an observed effect).

    3) A side effect of liberal PC brainwashing, sentimentality, and a degenerate post-Christian morality that needs to virtue-signal by elevating and favoring "the other."

    4) A humanitarian relief effort aiming to provide comfort to those displaced by wars and poverty throughout the Middle East and Africa (this one is an obvious fig leaf, as such aid could have been provided in situ at a fraction of the cost of the invasion).

    5) An economic gambit that makes bold to supplement Germany's declining workforce (and consumer base) with millions of mostly young workers transported en masse from "the provinces" (the Western world looks upon the rest of the globe as its rightful spoil) to the heart of the Empire.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics. Numbers 1 & 2 are individual subjective reactions to the real distress caused by the invasion which the individual is powerless to overcome. Lacking the ability to discharge itself in effective countermeasures, the stress bursts forth in a dream-cloud of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking. Like all good conspiracy theories, they maintain the Fortean quality of being heuristically useful but factually underdetermined. Number 3 is more of a collateral predicate condition than an actual cause, and is logically not dissimilar to the construction that 'X is Hamlet' follows from 'X is the Prince of Denmark'---true but trivial. Number 4 is a public relations stunt, a cover story designed to provide the agents with immunity from criticism as they proceed with whatever their real objective is. Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.

    But to say that it was rational does not mean that it was prudent, as it clearly was not. It completely failed to take account of anything that could not be justified by appealing to graphs of population curves or GDP. This, I believe, provides the key to unlocking the real metapolitical struggle.

    The essence of it can be described as what James Burnham referred to as the Managerial Revolution. The elites who govern the Western world today are trained to think in terms of aggregates and statistics. They ascend to their position either through the upper ranks of business and finance (where such thinking is a matter of course), or, as is more common, directly through the technocratic bureaucracy itself, which from its inception has operated as a vast data collecting and analyzing firm. The very act of governing itself has come to be seen as a sort of crossword puzzle played out with socioeconomic and demographic data sets. Merkel's Boner was nothing but an attempt (a rather crude one) to apply the same style of thinking to Germany's very real demographic collapse whilst pathetically paying lip service to the currents of popular sentimentality. In every respect, it is the like image of the tiresome pageants that transpire in the corporate world a hundred times a day.

    The metapolitical struggle, then, can only be between those who still wish to apply managerial thinking to the problems of politics, and those who do not wish to do so. The alternative to Merkel cannot be another technocratic solution of a different flavor, but a grand gesture which takes no account of GDP, unemployment figures, or mean life expectancy. It has to be something which values the symbolism of a free and independent Germany above all the economic aggregates in the world.

    Yet what do we find within us or around us to provide the basis for such symbolism? That is the question around which the resurgent Right has hitherto stalled.

    Who imports ILLITERATE AGGRESSIVE MUSLIMS as replacement workers? Why import Africans and Afghans because there was a crisis in Syria?

    Why not hire hard-working, peaceful, pork-loving Chinese? Is China still suffering from a population shortage?

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  62. Forbes says:
    @AnotherDad

    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these ‘refugees’ as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Well said Arclight.

    Stopping is not enough, we need reversal. The scale of Merkel's madness in just insane. Even just this 2015 first million, while just a bit north of 1% of the German population, are pretty much all young men, so amount to about 1/10th of the male half of a German breeding generation (say 15-35). These guys--if allowed to stay--will either eventually get spouses from their home nations/cultures or displace German men in the mating market. (Likely mostly the former, but some of the later.) So in one yearMerkel has created a demographic nightmare for Germany on the scale of America's 200 years of African slavery.

    One of the problems we have in the West is our ruling class not only believes stupid egalitarian--"people are all the same"--bullshit, but that they are verbal thinkers--people who are often pretty innumerate, but almost entirely people who do not think in mathematical (or even hard logical) terms and create models or sanity tests to see if their ideas make any sense. They are basically pretty picture painters--pretty verbal picture painters.

    ~~

    This endlessly repeated "nation of immigrants" thing is the classic case. It just makes no sense. It's one thing to do the "y'all come on over and grab up this territory that we're taking from the natives"--America's 19th century immigration. That's historically normal. There's a name for it--"conquest". It runs for a while, as the conquerors fill in the territory--then it *stops*. But this idea of a "nation" that is always getting immigration is just mathematically/logically stupid. You must either be maintaining a reasonable population--with sub-replacement fertility--which means you are essentially genociding the existing inhabitants replacing them with outsiders. Or you are endlessly growing your nation until it becomes so crowded and unpleasant that it is in "misery-balance" with the rest of the world and no one else wants to come! This is just basic math. (Some combination of both is what is going on.)

    "A nation of immigrants" is just inherently/mathematically/logically an ideology of national destruction--even if all the "diversity!" and civilizational contention issues were tractable. It's people of high verbal IQ's pretty-picture/propaganda/wet-dream that doesn't pass any sort of sanity check. (Of course, no doubt some of these folks are aware and their intentions are just malevolent.)

    ~~
    Note: "misery-balance" is a pretty good AnotherDad phrase for the ultimate result of the West's open immigrastion policies. Encourage folks to use it in their outreach efforts.

    It’s staring you in the face:

    This endlessly repeated “nation of immigrants” thing is the classic case. It just makes no sense. It’s one thing to do the “y’all come on over and grab up this territory that we’re taking from the natives”–America’s 19th century immigration. That’s historically normal. There’s a name for it–”conquest”.

    The classic case, historically normal, known as “conquest.” And you say, “Stop the merry-go-round, I wanna get off.” And they say, “Lie back and think of England.”

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  63. Bronxite says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.
     
    One of the ways to tell when a crisis or turning point is at hand is when events that ordinarily would have been handled by routine political processes suddenly take on metapolitical significance. Or more accurately, vice versa: The abstract, comprehensive, far-ranging visions, which before where only discussed academically and played little role in the quotidian world of day-to-day politics, suddenly become the slogans of clashing forces of blood and iron.

    Merkel's Boner is still being handled in the realm of the routine, both in how it is characterized and how it is responded to; it has not acquired crisis-like qualities yet. But by classifying its various interpretations, we might obtain some insight into what it truly is, as well as into what is the real metapolitical conflict of our time.

    We've heard Merkel's invasion variously decribed as:

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).

    2) Part of broader plot by the elites to affect the race replacement of White European Christendom, and to deracinate Western peoples as part of a "divide and conquer" strategy, possibly at the behest of Israel and/or the global financial cartel (this one commits the common cognitive error of assuming an intentional cause from an observed effect).

    3) A side effect of liberal PC brainwashing, sentimentality, and a degenerate post-Christian morality that needs to virtue-signal by elevating and favoring "the other."

    4) A humanitarian relief effort aiming to provide comfort to those displaced by wars and poverty throughout the Middle East and Africa (this one is an obvious fig leaf, as such aid could have been provided in situ at a fraction of the cost of the invasion).

    5) An economic gambit that makes bold to supplement Germany's declining workforce (and consumer base) with millions of mostly young workers transported en masse from "the provinces" (the Western world looks upon the rest of the globe as its rightful spoil) to the heart of the Empire.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics. Numbers 1 & 2 are individual subjective reactions to the real distress caused by the invasion which the individual is powerless to overcome. Lacking the ability to discharge itself in effective countermeasures, the stress bursts forth in a dream-cloud of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking. Like all good conspiracy theories, they maintain the Fortean quality of being heuristically useful but factually underdetermined. Number 3 is more of a collateral predicate condition than an actual cause, and is logically not dissimilar to the construction that 'X is Hamlet' follows from 'X is the Prince of Denmark'---true but trivial. Number 4 is a public relations stunt, a cover story designed to provide the agents with immunity from criticism as they proceed with whatever their real objective is. Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.

    But to say that it was rational does not mean that it was prudent, as it clearly was not. It completely failed to take account of anything that could not be justified by appealing to graphs of population curves or GDP. This, I believe, provides the key to unlocking the real metapolitical struggle.

    The essence of it can be described as what James Burnham referred to as the Managerial Revolution. The elites who govern the Western world today are trained to think in terms of aggregates and statistics. They ascend to their position either through the upper ranks of business and finance (where such thinking is a matter of course), or, as is more common, directly through the technocratic bureaucracy itself, which from its inception has operated as a vast data collecting and analyzing firm. The very act of governing itself has come to be seen as a sort of crossword puzzle played out with socioeconomic and demographic data sets. Merkel's Boner was nothing but an attempt (a rather crude one) to apply the same style of thinking to Germany's very real demographic collapse whilst pathetically paying lip service to the currents of popular sentimentality. In every respect, it is the like image of the tiresome pageants that transpire in the corporate world a hundred times a day.

    The metapolitical struggle, then, can only be between those who still wish to apply managerial thinking to the problems of politics, and those who do not wish to do so. The alternative to Merkel cannot be another technocratic solution of a different flavor, but a grand gesture which takes no account of GDP, unemployment figures, or mean life expectancy. It has to be something which values the symbolism of a free and independent Germany above all the economic aggregates in the world.

    Yet what do we find within us or around us to provide the basis for such symbolism? That is the question around which the resurgent Right has hitherto stalled.

    Merkel had visited the KUKA A.G. Robotics factory in the spring of 2015; even had a publicity foto of herself with an industrial robot. The traitoress was well aware of the automation of german industry & the declining need for skilled workers. Of course none of the turd world invaders have any skill nor capability/ desire to acquire them.

    German experience with the turkish guest workers , documented in thilo sarrazin’s book is also well known to her. The childless stasi Merkel is a traitor; plain and simple.

    Her vaunted intelligence is also ersatz. After fukushima earthquake, merkel decided to get rid of german nuclear power plants ; using green renewables. Germany now has highest electricity costs in europe ; now uses lignite, low quality -high pollutant brown coal ; strip mined, to supplement the failing wind/ solar energie wande. Google destruction of german villages by lignite mining to get even more disgusted

    The high electricity costs coupled with paris climate treaty are threatening german auto insdustry; so likely the remaining juncker class have decided enough is enough of this insane bitch. To add to their difficulties, merkel and brood sow defense minister ursula von der leyen ( six kids – thats good) also reduced german arms industry , to be more peaceful.

    This was a high paying job , export industry ; and the forced reduction in size of arms exports has cost tens of thousands of jobs in germany. can only hope that the stranglehold on german media can be broken; and normal person can save them. Merkel also severely reduced the size of german armed forces and DJT rightly called them
    Out on it. Eg: only a few hundred active tanks in army now.

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  64. @AndrewR
    Hopefully soon there will be enough votes in the Bundestag to put unsere liebe Frau Merkel behind bars for life.

    From your mouth to God’s ears, as my late father would have said.

    But a self-hating, confused, brainwashed, cowardly people like the Germans haven’t even mustered 13% for the AfD at the polls. How will they come close to impeaching and prosecuting Merkel?

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  65. MBlanc46 says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    This is the top comment (as of now) by both NYT pick and reader pick with 342 "Recommend"

    abo is a trusted commenter
    Paris 1 day ago

    Many Americans seem very confused about what the liberal order entails. Those on the left, for instance the NYT Editorial Board, seem to think that an open immigration policy is an essential part. Here Douthat, in a hopelessly twisted piece of thinking, tries to make his conservative obsessions to be "liberal." This, as best as I can put it, is what a liberal order actually means:
    1/ Freedom of thought and speech.
    2/ Freedom from fear
    3/ Freedom from want, and a community sharing in the benefits of prosperity
    4/ Freedom from arbitrary exertions of power, not only by government, but by corporations or any group or individual
    5/ Justice which is rule-based and clear, and allows adequate due process, in all facets of life, including work
    It's too long to explain for a comment, but I don't think the U.S. is satisfactory on any of these five points. Western Europe - read Merkel's Germany, if you will -, while not perfect, is better on all of them.

    342 Recommend
     

    I personally suspect we'd have a lot less of - all the issues that come front-end-center at Unz - and which bedevil us in general, if we have a lot more of this commenter's # 3.

    Conservatives, in particular, are responsible for the fact that we don't. And it isn't that they opposite "socialism", it's just who they select to be socialism's beneficiaries.

    Odd that all those Leftist billionaires—Gates, Zuckerberg, Steyer, various Pritzkers and Kennedys—haven’t gotten that sorted out long ago.

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  66. @AndrewR
    Hopefully soon there will be enough votes in the Bundestag to put unsere liebe Frau Merkel behind bars for life.

    Nur lebenslange Haft? What are you, some kind of cuck?

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    Durr hurr. That's the harshest penalty under German law and ex post facto punishments are not honorable.
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  67. Eagle Eye says:
    @yaqub the mad scientist
    You're really not staring down at anything if you've decided that you don't care what happens two generations down the road. That's the underlying thing to this: do you really care what happens after you're gone?

    It almost brings up the question as to whether some see this mass change as a kind of redistributive justice that that they want brought about, but are too cowardly to inflict the brunt of on themselves, so they punish their descendents.

    That’s the underlying thing to this: do you really care what happens after you’re gone?

    Exactly – we have not even begun to think intelligently about what the slow death of Religion since the 1700s means at the systems level for Western Civilization.

    The Founding Fathers were keenly aware that a republic would work only with a population consciously rooted in Christian/Western values, but no other.

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  68. @Altai
    Because housing is so unaffordable, wages are so low and people spend more and more time in higher education to compensate. If only there hadn't been constant pressure in migration from within and without the EU, the situation would be much better. It's like that Economist piece Steve linked to months ago where they were simultaneously bemoaning the low birth rate and the cheapness of housing...

    Demographic transitions sort themselves out. Nations have gone through wars, famines, total social system collapses and survived. But 13 years of having to cut back on pensions is impossible. Okay...

    We've just gone through 10 years of (From the perspective of the Gen X/Yers) of economic depression and yet we've survived.

    There's plenty of times throughout history that countries go through population decline or stabilisation without any war, disease or famine, from recent to ancient history. Do people think populations keep expanding forever? It's only a problem when you let other groups encroach during that time.

    Yes, but in order for populations to recover from a decline, the conditions that first caused that decline must disappear. If we continue to experience permanent wage decline and rising costs of living, then kids will simply remain an unaffordable luxury for most native people, and the elites will just keep importing cheaper labor from the third world to replace us – this is race replacement in a nutshell. It’s the result of conscious policy decisions; it’s not something natural like a plague.

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    If there is to be a future for Europeans then it looks as if they will have to follow the same strategy that has worked in the past and that others are currently reaping the reward from - breed without constraint nor concern for the poverty of the family, and pool resources within extended families.
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  69. dr kill says:
    @Yak-15
    Douhat is garbage. He is trotted out as an easily beatable loser with opinions that lack the teeth of the alt-right. He is like Alan Combes from Hannity & Combes - an identifiable caricature of the opposite side with flimsy arguments. He is there to lose.

    The republicans of the last 40 years have been the same - cultural losers.

    Anyone who happily identifies as a contented Republican these days is to be reviled.

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  70. @Barnard
    Right, the refugees have to go back. The situation in Iraq has been improving so some should be returning already. Although many of them are not from Iraq and Syria and aren't refugees in the first place. If it is going to take nine years to send back Haitians here after an earthquake, I'm not very hope Europe can get it done.

    Whether the situation is improving in their home countries, is irrelevant and not our concern. Germans need to deport Africans and Muslims no matter what is happening in their countries, or there will be no Germany as we know it. Same for France, Sweden, England, Austria, etc.

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  71. @Intelligent Dasein

    Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.
     
    One of the ways to tell when a crisis or turning point is at hand is when events that ordinarily would have been handled by routine political processes suddenly take on metapolitical significance. Or more accurately, vice versa: The abstract, comprehensive, far-ranging visions, which before where only discussed academically and played little role in the quotidian world of day-to-day politics, suddenly become the slogans of clashing forces of blood and iron.

    Merkel's Boner is still being handled in the realm of the routine, both in how it is characterized and how it is responded to; it has not acquired crisis-like qualities yet. But by classifying its various interpretations, we might obtain some insight into what it truly is, as well as into what is the real metapolitical conflict of our time.

    We've heard Merkel's invasion variously decribed as:

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).

    2) Part of broader plot by the elites to affect the race replacement of White European Christendom, and to deracinate Western peoples as part of a "divide and conquer" strategy, possibly at the behest of Israel and/or the global financial cartel (this one commits the common cognitive error of assuming an intentional cause from an observed effect).

    3) A side effect of liberal PC brainwashing, sentimentality, and a degenerate post-Christian morality that needs to virtue-signal by elevating and favoring "the other."

    4) A humanitarian relief effort aiming to provide comfort to those displaced by wars and poverty throughout the Middle East and Africa (this one is an obvious fig leaf, as such aid could have been provided in situ at a fraction of the cost of the invasion).

    5) An economic gambit that makes bold to supplement Germany's declining workforce (and consumer base) with millions of mostly young workers transported en masse from "the provinces" (the Western world looks upon the rest of the globe as its rightful spoil) to the heart of the Empire.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics. Numbers 1 & 2 are individual subjective reactions to the real distress caused by the invasion which the individual is powerless to overcome. Lacking the ability to discharge itself in effective countermeasures, the stress bursts forth in a dream-cloud of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking. Like all good conspiracy theories, they maintain the Fortean quality of being heuristically useful but factually underdetermined. Number 3 is more of a collateral predicate condition than an actual cause, and is logically not dissimilar to the construction that 'X is Hamlet' follows from 'X is the Prince of Denmark'---true but trivial. Number 4 is a public relations stunt, a cover story designed to provide the agents with immunity from criticism as they proceed with whatever their real objective is. Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.

    But to say that it was rational does not mean that it was prudent, as it clearly was not. It completely failed to take account of anything that could not be justified by appealing to graphs of population curves or GDP. This, I believe, provides the key to unlocking the real metapolitical struggle.

    The essence of it can be described as what James Burnham referred to as the Managerial Revolution. The elites who govern the Western world today are trained to think in terms of aggregates and statistics. They ascend to their position either through the upper ranks of business and finance (where such thinking is a matter of course), or, as is more common, directly through the technocratic bureaucracy itself, which from its inception has operated as a vast data collecting and analyzing firm. The very act of governing itself has come to be seen as a sort of crossword puzzle played out with socioeconomic and demographic data sets. Merkel's Boner was nothing but an attempt (a rather crude one) to apply the same style of thinking to Germany's very real demographic collapse whilst pathetically paying lip service to the currents of popular sentimentality. In every respect, it is the like image of the tiresome pageants that transpire in the corporate world a hundred times a day.

    The metapolitical struggle, then, can only be between those who still wish to apply managerial thinking to the problems of politics, and those who do not wish to do so. The alternative to Merkel cannot be another technocratic solution of a different flavor, but a grand gesture which takes no account of GDP, unemployment figures, or mean life expectancy. It has to be something which values the symbolism of a free and independent Germany above all the economic aggregates in the world.

    Yet what do we find within us or around us to provide the basis for such symbolism? That is the question around which the resurgent Right has hitherto stalled.

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).

    This is to explain the actions of Western Women, not Merkel. Merkel presumably is old enough that the tingles are no longer a major determination in her actions.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics.

    You missed the obvious- it will help her get reelected. With the new immigrants there was an increase in crime and as the right most party she could do ‘tough on crime’ while the more leftists one were unwilling or unable to adopt such policies. She also increased the amount of demand for lawyers and other important constituents.

    Yes, politicians are cartoonishly evil. Do not look for a moral compass in our leaders- you are better off appealing to Stalin or Hitler’s better nature.

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  72. Glaivester says: • Website
    @rogue-one
    It's practically impossible to remove them now. Once they start bringing their immediate family over their numbers would multiply by at least 5.

    They key questions would now be:

    1. How to stop future tide of migrants?
    2. How to absorb the ones that are already in here without destroying the country?

    It won’t be impossible to remove them once the K-selection hits.

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  73. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Merkel’s Million Marching Muslims Mistake

    I like it!

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  74. European leaders (at the pan-European level removed from national concerns) lurve muslims because overall they have low social captial and aren’t good at organizing at street level in order to topple governments.

    They distrust and fear native populations who can do unpredictable things like vote for Brexit or nationalist candidates.

    The final result of the Arab spring was not a single country improved economically, poltiically or socially.

    They love that, a population easy to control and rile up and utterly unable to challenge them.

    Or course economically they won’t be able to support European institutions because they’re not good at productive economic activity. But tha’ts a problem for their childless future.

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    The final result of the Arab spring was not a single country improved economically, politically or socially.
     
    Ah, yes. Remind me, WHO organized the "Arab Spring"? Who organized the Maidan incident in the Ukraine as a latter-day "Marco Polo Bridge Incident"? (Bing it.)
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  75. Curle says:

    Anyone here notice what Mr. Bezos is up to in Wales, shipping in Hungarians to work his new government backed plant in Wales?

    Funny, didn’t see that story in the Bezos Post.

    https://order-order.com/2017/11/23/welsh-labour-backed-amazon-plant-brings-foreign-workers/

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    These people will have to live in the world they create.

    If Paris, London and the Welsh countryside lose their character through migration, what joy is there to be rich? Living isolated in a gated community or space station?

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  76. @Sam
    Let me deliver a black bill from the future of immigration skepticism
    Douthat's point is exactly what should inspire fear among dissidents on the right. In the country that is furthest ahead in the immigration debate in the West, Denmark, the political establishment has absorbed quite a bit of the immigration skeptics. However the first big succesful immigration skeptic party here in Denmark have not been able to turn things around in terms of numbers. Their success has mostly been in legitimising skepticism, a few restrictionist laws, invoking culture war rhetoric in integration debates but that is about it.

    The Steve Sailer's and Brimelow's of Denmark are frightened because they know that net immigration from the third world has been positive in all those years(2001-2017) where the skeptics were coalition partners with the government. Because of the international and EU refugee laws the party hasn't been able to change the numbers and have been unwilling to admit this and take the battle. Instead, they maintained respectability by not addressing this and instead raising culture war topics to cover for this failure. The media doesn't bring it up because in their narrative there is no such thing as a critique coming from the immigration skeptic right. So immigration patriots have simply been content voting for this party without tangible benefits and without knowing better until recently...

    The only good story I can tell is that since last year a poll came up showing a hunger for a immigration skeptic party to right of our current one to the consternation of the media. This party has now emerged and they are willing to challenge international conventions and are outright calling for an end to third world immigration. But this entire process has taken 17 years and that the real solution could only be implemented if they do well enough at the next elections. Granted, every immigration skeptic party's success in West legitimises it in other countries.(Which is why Trump winning was a major symbolic victory even if he does nothing at all) So Denmark is paving the way but it it is important to note that rhetorical changes takes a while not to mention policy change.

    However the first big succesful immigration skeptic party here in Denmark have not been able to turn things around in terms of numbers.

    Depressing, but informative post Sam, thanks. In the West now, even where the politics has improved the most we haven’t even reached the “stop digging” level of sanity.

    This is *the* deal with making these bad demographic decisions. You screw up and make a demographic mistake and the consequences are very, very hard to turn around, to fix.

    This is the price that must be paid when you lower your guard and do ridiculous anti-historical, anti-biological stuff like letting your territory be invaded by a foreign tribe. Even the tiniest slip creates a major problem that can be a nightmare to clean up and could well destroy your civilization.

    We are in a war for our civilization. The first step is to call out the evil being done and raise consciousness. Then hopefully win politically to get “stop digging” policies. But there’s no way around the fact, that at root to save the West we’re going to have to win some sort of civil war–whether hot or not–against those that would destroy us.

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  77. “Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.”

    I don’t know about that.

    The coalition talks seem to have broken down over the issue of family unification for the 2015 migrant wave.

    The Greens are demanding that it is allowed, which could mean ~8 million new migrants. The CDU/CSU seem to be willing to go along, but the FDP is against.

    Now, the FDP might be replaced by the SDP – their price would be that Merkel goes, but the family unification would still happen.

    Hopefully, German Reader will comment on this.

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    The coalition talks seem to have broken down over the issue of family unification for the 2015 migrant wave.
     
    I don't think it was just that (the FDP is hardly a hardcore immigration restriction party), the Greens made a lot of other demented demands as well like shutting down coal power plants (apparently wind, water and solar are enough for the energy demands of an industrialized society...), all manner of supposedly ecology-friendly regulation, no reduction of taxes etc. And CDU/CSU seemed inclined to give them pretty much everything they want. It would have been suicidal for a pro-business party like the FDP to enter such a coalition...and since the FDP already was almost moribund after the 2013 election (when it didn't enter the Bundestag), it would have been pretty stupid to throw its near-miraculous recovery away like that.

    Now, the FDP might be replaced by the SDP – their price would be that Merkel goes, but the family unification would still happen.
     
    SPD so far has denied being willing to enter a coalition with CDU/CSU again, but it's definitely possible imo (even with Merkel staying as chancellor), they could justify it with something along the lines of "We have to do it for the sake of stability, our patriotic duty" etc. And yes, unfortunately there probably will be massive "family reunification" in any case (it should be noted that it was only contentious anyway for refugees under subsidiary protection status...the others - hundreds of thousands if I understand correctly - have a "right" to it anyway).
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  78. Neoconned says:
    @watson79
    OT, Happy Thanksgiving, Steve. This website is truly a gift. I do my best to spread the joy.

    I like it low key though and not too popular….that way we don’t get trolls and shit like that ruining the site….

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  79. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    But Douthat would support a million black Africans if they’re Catholic.

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  80. El Dato says:
    @bomag

    ...into the abyss... Eventually something gets worked out.
     
    "On the plunge to the rocks below; after going over the cliff; the occupants of the car finally came to complete agreement that a wrong turn was taken earlier in the trip"

    The E. in “Wile E. Coyote” must stand for Europe.

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  81. @Anonymous
    The Smaller the Political Unit, the Greater the Freedom.

    Lest there be any doubt about that, consider how much more of a voice you have in your own neighborhood association or town hall compared with that in your state house, not to mention national congress.

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??

    Also--nice title on this article, Steve. Variety is calling :)

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??

    Easy. Start a pointless winter land war with Russia, after introducing conscription.
    We’re already halfway there, thanks, Democacks.

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  82. Thea says:
    @Curle
    Anyone here notice what Mr. Bezos is up to in Wales, shipping in Hungarians to work his new government backed plant in Wales?

    Funny, didn’t see that story in the Bezos Post.

    https://order-order.com/2017/11/23/welsh-labour-backed-amazon-plant-brings-foreign-workers/

    These people will have to live in the world they create.

    If Paris, London and the Welsh countryside lose their character through migration, what joy is there to be rich? Living isolated in a gated community or space station?

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    The point isn't having a good life. The point is making sure it is better then anyone elses life. Yes, our elite is that evil- they don't care is they occasionally die as long as the proles die much faster.
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  83. El Dato says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    This is the top comment (as of now) by both NYT pick and reader pick with 342 "Recommend"

    abo is a trusted commenter
    Paris 1 day ago

    Many Americans seem very confused about what the liberal order entails. Those on the left, for instance the NYT Editorial Board, seem to think that an open immigration policy is an essential part. Here Douthat, in a hopelessly twisted piece of thinking, tries to make his conservative obsessions to be "liberal." This, as best as I can put it, is what a liberal order actually means:
    1/ Freedom of thought and speech.
    2/ Freedom from fear
    3/ Freedom from want, and a community sharing in the benefits of prosperity
    4/ Freedom from arbitrary exertions of power, not only by government, but by corporations or any group or individual
    5/ Justice which is rule-based and clear, and allows adequate due process, in all facets of life, including work
    It's too long to explain for a comment, but I don't think the U.S. is satisfactory on any of these five points. Western Europe - read Merkel's Germany, if you will -, while not perfect, is better on all of them.

    342 Recommend
     

    I personally suspect we'd have a lot less of - all the issues that come front-end-center at Unz - and which bedevil us in general, if we have a lot more of this commenter's # 3.

    Conservatives, in particular, are responsible for the fact that we don't. And it isn't that they opposite "socialism", it's just who they select to be socialism's beneficiaries.

    I have just finished reading [Douglas] Murray’s redpilling “The Strange Death of Europe” and he makes abundantly clear that “Freedom of thought and speech” as well as “Freedom from fear” have gone down the shitter and won’t come back soon.

    As an European, voicing concern about population replacement and peculiar “traditions” alien to the continent means you get branded a fascist, then lawfared out of society. If you are a Muslim voicing those concerns, nobody will come to your defense, you will be attacked by anyone who has the megaphone, indeed you will need police protection lest some Salafist knives you in the street,

    Muslims who integrated well, foolishly thought “freedom of thought and speech” were more than empty words written on 100% recyclable toilet paper and came out against cultural practices of dubious value had to leave Europe after they did so. Refugees from the burning scrapheap While fiery Imams financed by Saudi Arabia are free to preach burninantion and takeover.

    Betrayal. Base betrayal. Politicians choosing mercy over justice because it’s convenient and easily gets the vote. Confusing a nation with a hotel. Thinking resources are infinite (it’s not like everyone is already deeply in the red and getting deeper; pensions are likely to be sparse or nonexistent) and economics can be ignored. Dumb children.

    May their daughters feel the consequences.

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  84. Eventually something gets worked out.

    Bond to Sévérine in Skyfall:

    Someone usually dies.

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  85. i still have lots of room in my crawl space.

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  86. @Intelligent Dasein

    Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.
     
    One of the ways to tell when a crisis or turning point is at hand is when events that ordinarily would have been handled by routine political processes suddenly take on metapolitical significance. Or more accurately, vice versa: The abstract, comprehensive, far-ranging visions, which before where only discussed academically and played little role in the quotidian world of day-to-day politics, suddenly become the slogans of clashing forces of blood and iron.

    Merkel's Boner is still being handled in the realm of the routine, both in how it is characterized and how it is responded to; it has not acquired crisis-like qualities yet. But by classifying its various interpretations, we might obtain some insight into what it truly is, as well as into what is the real metapolitical conflict of our time.

    We've heard Merkel's invasion variously decribed as:

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).

    2) Part of broader plot by the elites to affect the race replacement of White European Christendom, and to deracinate Western peoples as part of a "divide and conquer" strategy, possibly at the behest of Israel and/or the global financial cartel (this one commits the common cognitive error of assuming an intentional cause from an observed effect).

    3) A side effect of liberal PC brainwashing, sentimentality, and a degenerate post-Christian morality that needs to virtue-signal by elevating and favoring "the other."

    4) A humanitarian relief effort aiming to provide comfort to those displaced by wars and poverty throughout the Middle East and Africa (this one is an obvious fig leaf, as such aid could have been provided in situ at a fraction of the cost of the invasion).

    5) An economic gambit that makes bold to supplement Germany's declining workforce (and consumer base) with millions of mostly young workers transported en masse from "the provinces" (the Western world looks upon the rest of the globe as its rightful spoil) to the heart of the Empire.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics. Numbers 1 & 2 are individual subjective reactions to the real distress caused by the invasion which the individual is powerless to overcome. Lacking the ability to discharge itself in effective countermeasures, the stress bursts forth in a dream-cloud of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking. Like all good conspiracy theories, they maintain the Fortean quality of being heuristically useful but factually underdetermined. Number 3 is more of a collateral predicate condition than an actual cause, and is logically not dissimilar to the construction that 'X is Hamlet' follows from 'X is the Prince of Denmark'---true but trivial. Number 4 is a public relations stunt, a cover story designed to provide the agents with immunity from criticism as they proceed with whatever their real objective is. Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.

    But to say that it was rational does not mean that it was prudent, as it clearly was not. It completely failed to take account of anything that could not be justified by appealing to graphs of population curves or GDP. This, I believe, provides the key to unlocking the real metapolitical struggle.

    The essence of it can be described as what James Burnham referred to as the Managerial Revolution. The elites who govern the Western world today are trained to think in terms of aggregates and statistics. They ascend to their position either through the upper ranks of business and finance (where such thinking is a matter of course), or, as is more common, directly through the technocratic bureaucracy itself, which from its inception has operated as a vast data collecting and analyzing firm. The very act of governing itself has come to be seen as a sort of crossword puzzle played out with socioeconomic and demographic data sets. Merkel's Boner was nothing but an attempt (a rather crude one) to apply the same style of thinking to Germany's very real demographic collapse whilst pathetically paying lip service to the currents of popular sentimentality. In every respect, it is the like image of the tiresome pageants that transpire in the corporate world a hundred times a day.

    The metapolitical struggle, then, can only be between those who still wish to apply managerial thinking to the problems of politics, and those who do not wish to do so. The alternative to Merkel cannot be another technocratic solution of a different flavor, but a grand gesture which takes no account of GDP, unemployment figures, or mean life expectancy. It has to be something which values the symbolism of a free and independent Germany above all the economic aggregates in the world.

    Yet what do we find within us or around us to provide the basis for such symbolism? That is the question around which the resurgent Right has hitherto stalled.

    Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.

    I know it’s Thanksgiving, but please, put down the TLDR Butterknife.

    Your #5 Economic Gambit is actually most convoluted theory. There was / is no grand “economic gambit” to employ migrants in any meaningful way. Even Swedish news presenters knew pre-MMMMM (Merkel’s Malevolent Mangy Mufti Merkin) that the European “kebab technician” market was already completely saturated:

    What we’re seeing is the continuation of a Cold Civil War (getting warmer) with anti-whites—ethnomasochist and otherwise—in all Western countries successfully intending to “rub the Right’s noses in diversity.” That would be your listed reason #2, backed by the cat lady vanity and sentiments of #3 and #4. I agree reason #1 is mostly bogus, probably the result of imbibing too much Whiskey.

    In summation, you would rather See No Evil, therefore your mind seeks tortuously verbose yet benign explanations. Open your eyes.

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    Speaking of a Lukewarm Civil War:

    The Virtual NAU Emperor Sugarhillygula expects that official moving of The White House Trailer to the Forbiden City should be finalized by 2028.


    https://youtu.be/IhoxDC73Rg8

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    , @Jack Hanson
    Gonna borrow this "See No Evil" turn of phrase.

    See also: "ACTUALLY, liberals just want to take your guns so they can protect their children and not throw your defenseless ass in a gulag, no no no."
    , @bored identity
    Eine Kleine Sieg-Siaging Rant on #5 Economic Gambit :

    https://youtu.be/A3pI1anNdWE
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  87. OT: Eminem upset that even after he threw a huge temper tantrum on national TV, Daddy still isn’t paying any attention to him:

    “I was and still am extremely angry,” the “Walk on Water” artist said. “I can’t stand that motherf**ker. I feel like he’s not paying attention to me. I was kind of waiting for him to say something and for some reason, he didn’t say anything.”

    I believe this is what the diversities call crying like a bitch.

    https://www.bet.com/music/2017/11/20/eminem-donald-trump-bet-cypher.html

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  88. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @watson79
    OT, Happy Thanksgiving, Steve. This website is truly a gift. I do my best to spread the joy.

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here, including the haters and losers.

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    *hatters
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  89. Ed says:
    @Bies Podkrakowski
    But the top comments there are not sensible. Most praise Merkel's decision for being merciful and open-hearted. Some wish a leader of her caliber for USA.

    Gotta be careful with the comments to a Douthat column. Since he’s the resident conservative columnist he’s the focus of liberal hate towards conservatives. If you read some of the comments they don’t even engage the argument just attack him.

    Generally speaking NYT commentators were opposed to Merkel inviting millions of Muslims.

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  90. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    Maybe the Germans have begun to recognize that Merkel is Stalin in drag.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/06/angela-merkel-stalin-in-drag.html

    Good essay. Merkel is a deranged and very dangerous leftist traitor.

    The Left are comprised of serious control freaks with a penchant for violence.

    Sick bastards that try to hide their sociopathic impulses with the mask of virtue.

    They will usher in their peaceful world of an egalitarian utopia–even if they have to kill you to do it.

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  91. @jimmyriddle
    "Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out."

    I don't know about that.

    The coalition talks seem to have broken down over the issue of family unification for the 2015 migrant wave.

    The Greens are demanding that it is allowed, which could mean ~8 million new migrants. The CDU/CSU seem to be willing to go along, but the FDP is against.


    Now, the FDP might be replaced by the SDP - their price would be that Merkel goes, but the family unification would still happen.

    Hopefully, German Reader will comment on this.

    The coalition talks seem to have broken down over the issue of family unification for the 2015 migrant wave.

    I don’t think it was just that (the FDP is hardly a hardcore immigration restriction party), the Greens made a lot of other demented demands as well like shutting down coal power plants (apparently wind, water and solar are enough for the energy demands of an industrialized society…), all manner of supposedly ecology-friendly regulation, no reduction of taxes etc. And CDU/CSU seemed inclined to give them pretty much everything they want. It would have been suicidal for a pro-business party like the FDP to enter such a coalition…and since the FDP already was almost moribund after the 2013 election (when it didn’t enter the Bundestag), it would have been pretty stupid to throw its near-miraculous recovery away like that.

    Now, the FDP might be replaced by the SDP – their price would be that Merkel goes, but the family unification would still happen.

    SPD so far has denied being willing to enter a coalition with CDU/CSU again, but it’s definitely possible imo (even with Merkel staying as chancellor), they could justify it with something along the lines of “We have to do it for the sake of stability, our patriotic duty” etc. And yes, unfortunately there probably will be massive “family reunification” in any case (it should be noted that it was only contentious anyway for refugees under subsidiary protection status…the others – hundreds of thousands if I understand correctly – have a “right” to it anyway).

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  92. Eagle Eye says:
    @cliff arroyo
    European leaders (at the pan-European level removed from national concerns) lurve muslims because overall they have low social captial and aren't good at organizing at street level in order to topple governments.

    They distrust and fear native populations who can do unpredictable things like vote for Brexit or nationalist candidates.

    The final result of the Arab spring was not a single country improved economically, poltiically or socially.

    They love that, a population easy to control and rile up and utterly unable to challenge them.

    Or course economically they won't be able to support European institutions because they're not good at productive economic activity. But tha'ts a problem for their childless future.

    The final result of the Arab spring was not a single country improved economically, politically or socially.

    Ah, yes. Remind me, WHO organized the “Arab Spring”? Who organized the Maidan incident in the Ukraine as a latter-day “Marco Polo Bridge Incident”? (Bing it.)

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  93. Nice to know that there is less insanity in the world than I expected.

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  94. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Jack Hanson
    The Sailer's and Brimelow's of the world are terrified of where this thing inexorably ends: Bosnia on steroids. Right now there is a lack of seriousness on their part as they refuse to admit we are in a civil war.

    I would not say that. Brimelow has said open borders will lead to blood.

    Sailer has been way ahead of the curve on pointing out the utter stupidity and traitorous behavior of the elites favoring open borders.

    I do not see a lack of seriousness in either men.

    I see heroic men who have spent their lives on the margins trying to alert people that the sky is indeed falling.

    And like all prophets they have gotten little thanks for their efforts.

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    You're missing the point in order to white knight for Sailer. Many such cases! Sad! Discussing the problem isnt the same as discussing the end game. A Bernie Bro lights up a church in Texas and not a word from Sailer. He's got plenty of words on golf courses tho.

    The reality is these guys keep talking about Citizenism as a way forward. Citizenism had maybe a chance in beginning of the 80 s. If you think that either writer (or Reed, or Derb) is honestly confronting where this is going, you're part of the problem. "See no evil", as Jenner Ickham puts it, is the sign of an unserious mind.

    , @Jack Hanson
    My comments explaining how Sailer and the rest of the Alt Life's Boomer Bunch aren't serious are still "awaiting moderation".

    Yeah dedicated to discussion, that guy. Meanwhile tiny duck never fails to get through. Whattaya whattaya tho?
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  95. @Intelligent Dasein

    Right, parliamentary systems tend to be pretty robust. Eventually something gets worked out.
     
    One of the ways to tell when a crisis or turning point is at hand is when events that ordinarily would have been handled by routine political processes suddenly take on metapolitical significance. Or more accurately, vice versa: The abstract, comprehensive, far-ranging visions, which before where only discussed academically and played little role in the quotidian world of day-to-day politics, suddenly become the slogans of clashing forces of blood and iron.

    Merkel's Boner is still being handled in the realm of the routine, both in how it is characterized and how it is responded to; it has not acquired crisis-like qualities yet. But by classifying its various interpretations, we might obtain some insight into what it truly is, as well as into what is the real metapolitical conflict of our time.

    We've heard Merkel's invasion variously decribed as:

    1) A female FU to the White Male Patriarchy through the importation of violent young Muslim men to rape and dominate them, which they apparently enjoy (this one is especially idiotic, by the way).

    2) Part of broader plot by the elites to affect the race replacement of White European Christendom, and to deracinate Western peoples as part of a "divide and conquer" strategy, possibly at the behest of Israel and/or the global financial cartel (this one commits the common cognitive error of assuming an intentional cause from an observed effect).

    3) A side effect of liberal PC brainwashing, sentimentality, and a degenerate post-Christian morality that needs to virtue-signal by elevating and favoring "the other."

    4) A humanitarian relief effort aiming to provide comfort to those displaced by wars and poverty throughout the Middle East and Africa (this one is an obvious fig leaf, as such aid could have been provided in situ at a fraction of the cost of the invasion).

    5) An economic gambit that makes bold to supplement Germany's declining workforce (and consumer base) with millions of mostly young workers transported en masse from "the provinces" (the Western world looks upon the rest of the globe as its rightful spoil) to the heart of the Empire.

    Of these five, only the last one exerts any torque in the vector space of real-world politics. Numbers 1 & 2 are individual subjective reactions to the real distress caused by the invasion which the individual is powerless to overcome. Lacking the ability to discharge itself in effective countermeasures, the stress bursts forth in a dream-cloud of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking. Like all good conspiracy theories, they maintain the Fortean quality of being heuristically useful but factually underdetermined. Number 3 is more of a collateral predicate condition than an actual cause, and is logically not dissimilar to the construction that 'X is Hamlet' follows from 'X is the Prince of Denmark'---true but trivial. Number 4 is a public relations stunt, a cover story designed to provide the agents with immunity from criticism as they proceed with whatever their real objective is. Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.

    But to say that it was rational does not mean that it was prudent, as it clearly was not. It completely failed to take account of anything that could not be justified by appealing to graphs of population curves or GDP. This, I believe, provides the key to unlocking the real metapolitical struggle.

    The essence of it can be described as what James Burnham referred to as the Managerial Revolution. The elites who govern the Western world today are trained to think in terms of aggregates and statistics. They ascend to their position either through the upper ranks of business and finance (where such thinking is a matter of course), or, as is more common, directly through the technocratic bureaucracy itself, which from its inception has operated as a vast data collecting and analyzing firm. The very act of governing itself has come to be seen as a sort of crossword puzzle played out with socioeconomic and demographic data sets. Merkel's Boner was nothing but an attempt (a rather crude one) to apply the same style of thinking to Germany's very real demographic collapse whilst pathetically paying lip service to the currents of popular sentimentality. In every respect, it is the like image of the tiresome pageants that transpire in the corporate world a hundred times a day.

    The metapolitical struggle, then, can only be between those who still wish to apply managerial thinking to the problems of politics, and those who do not wish to do so. The alternative to Merkel cannot be another technocratic solution of a different flavor, but a grand gesture which takes no account of GDP, unemployment figures, or mean life expectancy. It has to be something which values the symbolism of a free and independent Germany above all the economic aggregates in the world.

    Yet what do we find within us or around us to provide the basis for such symbolism? That is the question around which the resurgent Right has hitherto stalled.

    Merkel’s Boner as The Office wrought large. I think you’re on to something.

    Take note, it wasn’t the population at large that was to be deracinated, only the ruling class, and also ostensibly for their own good. Also Office-level thinking as it happens.

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  96. Bel Riose says:
    @Colleen Pater
    Yes I can. WAR. Sorry that triggers so many, but its not different this time, war is how we do.One of the lefts greatest victories is convincing us things are different this time, things as basic to human culture as war are somehow a thing of the past a thing westerners no longer do, can do, is even possible.But everything short of piling up leftist bodies is just more left ratchet.
    But be careful they have been winning wars since Runnymede. So think about that, and part of that thinking is what you will do after the war.Usually rightest re institute the lefts iteration of a generation removed. Demotism is leftism, that's christianity democracy equality the whole cesspool.So if you think you're a rightest because muh christian country and muh jeffersonian constitution, you really need a history lesson. We can keep theoretical meritocratic aristocracy over genetic aristocracy, but genes are going to flow and in practice the nuance will be lost. Alignment of elites to national over personal interests is the key. This is how it works because this is how it does work. Its biology all the way down. A nat- tion is a people a genetically distinct people, a family.this is the biological reality this is who's competing for survival, you cant change this,all you can do is commit suicide.your culture is part of the biological feedback loop, in humans its part of the environment that selects us biologically. nature nurture is bullshit, culture is biology.so our cultures must be our own and support our own interests,this means keeping our elites in their place in the family.

    How much did you have to drink before you posted your comment….?

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  97. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Yak-15
    Douhat is garbage. He is trotted out as an easily beatable loser with opinions that lack the teeth of the alt-right. He is like Alan Combes from Hannity & Combes - an identifiable caricature of the opposite side with flimsy arguments. He is there to lose.

    The republicans of the last 40 years have been the same - cultural losers.

    You are exactly right, and this is a favorite technique of political propagandists. Relatively few can recognize it on sight.

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  98. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.
     
    I know it’s Thanksgiving, but please, put down the TLDR Butterknife.

    Your #5 Economic Gambit is actually most convoluted theory. There was / is no grand “economic gambit” to employ migrants in any meaningful way. Even Swedish news presenters knew pre-MMMMM (Merkel’s Malevolent Mangy Mufti Merkin) that the European “kebab technician” market was already completely saturated:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBikVeW42CI

    What we’re seeing is the continuation of a Cold Civil War (getting warmer) with anti-whites—ethnomasochist and otherwise—in all Western countries successfully intending to “rub the Right’s noses in diversity.” That would be your listed reason #2, backed by the cat lady vanity and sentiments of #3 and #4. I agree reason #1 is mostly bogus, probably the result of imbibing too much Whiskey.

    In summation, you would rather See No Evil, therefore your mind seeks tortuously verbose yet benign explanations. Open your eyes.

    Speaking of a Lukewarm Civil War:

    The Virtual NAU Emperor Sugarhillygula expects that official moving of The White House Trailer to the Forbiden City should be finalized by 2028.

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  99. @lavoisier
    I would not say that. Brimelow has said open borders will lead to blood.

    Sailer has been way ahead of the curve on pointing out the utter stupidity and traitorous behavior of the elites favoring open borders.

    I do not see a lack of seriousness in either men.

    I see heroic men who have spent their lives on the margins trying to alert people that the sky is indeed falling.

    And like all prophets they have gotten little thanks for their efforts.

    You’re missing the point in order to white knight for Sailer. Many such cases! Sad! Discussing the problem isnt the same as discussing the end game. A Bernie Bro lights up a church in Texas and not a word from Sailer. He’s got plenty of words on golf courses tho.

    The reality is these guys keep talking about Citizenism as a way forward. Citizenism had maybe a chance in beginning of the 80 s. If you think that either writer (or Reed, or Derb) is honestly confronting where this is going, you’re part of the problem. “See no evil”, as Jenner Ickham puts it, is the sign of an unserious mind.

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    These guys are about as serious as it gets.

    If we did not have people like Sailer and Brimelow, it is unlikely we would be anywhere close to where we are now.

    And where are we?

    People are starting to wake up that this Republic they thought they lived in is gone, carved out at the heart by stupid and venal traitorous elites.


    You may want to start the war now, but you need an intellectual foundation to justify your actions.

    Sailer and Brimelow have helped to build that foundation at personal costs to themselves.

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  100. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.
     
    I know it’s Thanksgiving, but please, put down the TLDR Butterknife.

    Your #5 Economic Gambit is actually most convoluted theory. There was / is no grand “economic gambit” to employ migrants in any meaningful way. Even Swedish news presenters knew pre-MMMMM (Merkel’s Malevolent Mangy Mufti Merkin) that the European “kebab technician” market was already completely saturated:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBikVeW42CI

    What we’re seeing is the continuation of a Cold Civil War (getting warmer) with anti-whites—ethnomasochist and otherwise—in all Western countries successfully intending to “rub the Right’s noses in diversity.” That would be your listed reason #2, backed by the cat lady vanity and sentiments of #3 and #4. I agree reason #1 is mostly bogus, probably the result of imbibing too much Whiskey.

    In summation, you would rather See No Evil, therefore your mind seeks tortuously verbose yet benign explanations. Open your eyes.

    Gonna borrow this “See No Evil” turn of phrase.

    See also: “ACTUALLY, liberals just want to take your guns so they can protect their children and not throw your defenseless ass in a gulag, no no no.”

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  101. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @AnotherDad

    All well and good, but it will be meaningless without removing as many of these ‘refugees’ as possible. Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Well said Arclight.

    Stopping is not enough, we need reversal. The scale of Merkel's madness in just insane. Even just this 2015 first million, while just a bit north of 1% of the German population, are pretty much all young men, so amount to about 1/10th of the male half of a German breeding generation (say 15-35). These guys--if allowed to stay--will either eventually get spouses from their home nations/cultures or displace German men in the mating market. (Likely mostly the former, but some of the later.) So in one yearMerkel has created a demographic nightmare for Germany on the scale of America's 200 years of African slavery.

    One of the problems we have in the West is our ruling class not only believes stupid egalitarian--"people are all the same"--bullshit, but that they are verbal thinkers--people who are often pretty innumerate, but almost entirely people who do not think in mathematical (or even hard logical) terms and create models or sanity tests to see if their ideas make any sense. They are basically pretty picture painters--pretty verbal picture painters.

    ~~

    This endlessly repeated "nation of immigrants" thing is the classic case. It just makes no sense. It's one thing to do the "y'all come on over and grab up this territory that we're taking from the natives"--America's 19th century immigration. That's historically normal. There's a name for it--"conquest". It runs for a while, as the conquerors fill in the territory--then it *stops*. But this idea of a "nation" that is always getting immigration is just mathematically/logically stupid. You must either be maintaining a reasonable population--with sub-replacement fertility--which means you are essentially genociding the existing inhabitants replacing them with outsiders. Or you are endlessly growing your nation until it becomes so crowded and unpleasant that it is in "misery-balance" with the rest of the world and no one else wants to come! This is just basic math. (Some combination of both is what is going on.)

    "A nation of immigrants" is just inherently/mathematically/logically an ideology of national destruction--even if all the "diversity!" and civilizational contention issues were tractable. It's people of high verbal IQ's pretty-picture/propaganda/wet-dream that doesn't pass any sort of sanity check. (Of course, no doubt some of these folks are aware and their intentions are just malevolent.)

    ~~
    Note: "misery-balance" is a pretty good AnotherDad phrase for the ultimate result of the West's open immigrastion policies. Encourage folks to use it in their outreach efforts.

    Stopping is not enough, we need reversal.

    You’ve inspired me to create a graphic. I’ll be putting it on Twitter soon; meanwhile feel free to use at will.

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  102. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Number 5 is the real objective; it is the only explanation that is, or could be, the result of conscious deliberation upon factual matters, and the only one that lies within the power of the agents to actually secure through their own willed actions. Thus it is the only one that meets the criteria of real-world politics.
     
    I know it’s Thanksgiving, but please, put down the TLDR Butterknife.

    Your #5 Economic Gambit is actually most convoluted theory. There was / is no grand “economic gambit” to employ migrants in any meaningful way. Even Swedish news presenters knew pre-MMMMM (Merkel’s Malevolent Mangy Mufti Merkin) that the European “kebab technician” market was already completely saturated:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBikVeW42CI

    What we’re seeing is the continuation of a Cold Civil War (getting warmer) with anti-whites—ethnomasochist and otherwise—in all Western countries successfully intending to “rub the Right’s noses in diversity.” That would be your listed reason #2, backed by the cat lady vanity and sentiments of #3 and #4. I agree reason #1 is mostly bogus, probably the result of imbibing too much Whiskey.

    In summation, you would rather See No Evil, therefore your mind seeks tortuously verbose yet benign explanations. Open your eyes.

    Eine Kleine Sieg-Siaging Rant on #5 Economic Gambit :

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    Interesting stuff. At the end, the #SiemensPride parade truck—a corporate chameleon with a cryptic slogan: “Thanks For Nothing.”
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  103. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Either the majority white countries of the world smarten up, regain their self-respect, (lost during the two world wars) and stop the demographic rape of their lands, or they go under.

    Then the whole world becomes a mess.

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  104. AndrewR says:
    @larry lurker
    Nur lebenslange Haft? What are you, some kind of cuck?

    Durr hurr. That’s the harshest penalty under German law and ex post facto punishments are not honorable.

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    Could always make her do community service in a refugee shelter, but she might actually enjoy the frequent rogering.
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  105. @bored identity
    Eine Kleine Sieg-Siaging Rant on #5 Economic Gambit :

    https://youtu.be/A3pI1anNdWE

    Interesting stuff. At the end, the #SiemensPride parade truck—a corporate chameleon with a cryptic slogan: “Thanks For Nothing.”

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  106. @Peter Akuleyev

    Germany is still staring into a demographic abyss and the abolition of their own culture a generation or two down the road.
     
    Germany was staring into a demographic abyss long before the refugees showed up. That is what Sarazin's book was about. From my perspective Merkel just threw a few more sticks onto a raging fire, which is why I can't get as outraged about 2015 as some people here. I've been in Europe since 2008, and there were already a lot of Muslims here then, and new ones coming in constantly. Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor - she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change. Maybe this shock to the system will motivate some real resistance.

    Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor – she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change.

    Right. The photos of the marching Muslims were so palpable about what the Davos Person zeitgeist had in store for the average voter, which is one reason they are surprisingly hard to find anymore.

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    Previous German leaders, both CDU and SPD, Helmut Kohl and Helmut Schmidt, made some rather obvious comments (when out of power, note,) that massive non-European immigration into Germany was not a good idea, in fact a grievous disaster.
    The impression was that, somehow, good old fashioned stolid 'mittel Europa' common sense actually prevailed in Germany, unlike in Britain, for example.
    Initially, Merkel made similar noises.
    That's why her welcoming and accommodating the Great Bumrush of 2015 was an egregious shock.
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  107. Moses says:

    Human belief systems can be so rigid and inflexible that people would rather die (or die out) than give up a cherished belief that is part of their identity. They will hallucinate an alternate reality right until the moment this reality steps in and chops off their heads.

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    Yep.

    That's basically what 'religion' is all about.
    Lefties have always reminded me of the most fanatical religious believers.
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  108. helena says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    Yes, but in order for populations to recover from a decline, the conditions that first caused that decline must disappear. If we continue to experience permanent wage decline and rising costs of living, then kids will simply remain an unaffordable luxury for most native people, and the elites will just keep importing cheaper labor from the third world to replace us - this is race replacement in a nutshell. It's the result of conscious policy decisions; it's not something natural like a plague.

    If there is to be a future for Europeans then it looks as if they will have to follow the same strategy that has worked in the past and that others are currently reaping the reward from – breed without constraint nor concern for the poverty of the family, and pool resources within extended families.

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    Well good luck to them if they attempt to out-breed r-selected Africans.

    Wouldn't it just be simpler - and cheaper - to actually *enforce* border control, you know like the Israelis are currently doing?
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  109. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    You mean that there has been a deliberate effort to ‘memory hole’ them away?

    Surely such dramatic footage must be stored on millions of hard-drives?

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    @Moses
    Human belief systems can be so rigid and inflexible that people would rather die (or die out) than give up a cherished belief that is part of their identity. They will hallucinate an alternate reality right until the moment this reality steps in and chops off their heads.

    Yep.

    That’s basically what ‘religion’ is all about.
    Lefties have always reminded me of the most fanatical religious believers.

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    Very astute observation.

    Leftists are as foolishly delusional as are any garden variety Muslim nutjob, Orthodox Jew, or evangelical Christian awaiting the rapture.

    The human ability to say up is down and black is white while unlocking the secrets of the atom will doom the species.
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  111. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @helena
    If there is to be a future for Europeans then it looks as if they will have to follow the same strategy that has worked in the past and that others are currently reaping the reward from - breed without constraint nor concern for the poverty of the family, and pool resources within extended families.

    Well good luck to them if they attempt to out-breed r-selected Africans.

    Wouldn’t it just be simpler – and cheaper – to actually *enforce* border control, you know like the Israelis are currently doing?

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    One may be more achievable than the other. But both could be pursued.
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  112. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    Arguably Merkel did Europe a favor – she woke people up. Without the 2015 influx, immigration would just have continued at a constant drip-drip-drip until it was too late to change.

    Right. The photos of the marching Muslims were so palpable about what the Davos Person zeitgeist had in store for the average voter, which is one reason they are surprisingly hard to find anymore.

    Previous German leaders, both CDU and SPD, Helmut Kohl and Helmut Schmidt, made some rather obvious comments (when out of power, note,) that massive non-European immigration into Germany was not a good idea, in fact a grievous disaster.
    The impression was that, somehow, good old fashioned stolid ‘mittel Europa’ common sense actually prevailed in Germany, unlike in Britain, for example.
    Initially, Merkel made similar noises.
    That’s why her welcoming and accommodating the Great Bumrush of 2015 was an egregious shock.

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    I wonder how former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder would have coped with the Great German Bumrush of 2015?
    I've often thought that the intelligent and wiley Schroeder was greatly underrated.
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  113. @Thea
    These people will have to live in the world they create.

    If Paris, London and the Welsh countryside lose their character through migration, what joy is there to be rich? Living isolated in a gated community or space station?

    The point isn’t having a good life. The point is making sure it is better then anyone elses life. Yes, our elite is that evil- they don’t care is they occasionally die as long as the proles die much faster.

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  114. @Anonymous
    Actually, the 'refugees' (bumrushers) are reliable *massive* fiscal liabilities.
    Anyone who argues otherwise is either a fool or a liar.

    I was going to add, “or a politician,” but on reflection “fool” and “liar” both cover politicians in many fashions.

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  115. @AndrewR
    Durr hurr. That's the harshest penalty under German law and ex post facto punishments are not honorable.

    Could always make her do community service in a refugee shelter, but she might actually enjoy the frequent rogering.

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    @Anonymous
    Previous German leaders, both CDU and SPD, Helmut Kohl and Helmut Schmidt, made some rather obvious comments (when out of power, note,) that massive non-European immigration into Germany was not a good idea, in fact a grievous disaster.
    The impression was that, somehow, good old fashioned stolid 'mittel Europa' common sense actually prevailed in Germany, unlike in Britain, for example.
    Initially, Merkel made similar noises.
    That's why her welcoming and accommodating the Great Bumrush of 2015 was an egregious shock.

    I wonder how former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder would have coped with the Great German Bumrush of 2015?
    I’ve often thought that the intelligent and wiley Schroeder was greatly underrated.

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  117. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Empirical evidence suggests that each ‘seed’ thirdworlder imported to the west has around 20 ‘chain’ migrants directly attributed to his entry and settlement, in the long run of things.

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  118. @Neuday

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home??
     
    Steve's post just prior to this one alludes to the solution. Has something to do with mob violence, and punishing groups for the actions of their members. Probably won't happen until there's a severe economic downturn, but how likely is that?

    Probably won’t happen until there’s a severe economic downturn, but how likely is that?

    I would say VERY likely, but it’s more like GUARANTEED. You can’t keep accumulating debt (as a nation, and as individuals) without it coming to an end, Neuday.

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  119. @lavoisier
    I would not say that. Brimelow has said open borders will lead to blood.

    Sailer has been way ahead of the curve on pointing out the utter stupidity and traitorous behavior of the elites favoring open borders.

    I do not see a lack of seriousness in either men.

    I see heroic men who have spent their lives on the margins trying to alert people that the sky is indeed falling.

    And like all prophets they have gotten little thanks for their efforts.

    My comments explaining how Sailer and the rest of the Alt Life’s Boomer Bunch aren’t serious are still “awaiting moderation”.

    Yeah dedicated to discussion, that guy. Meanwhile tiny duck never fails to get through. Whattaya whattaya tho?

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  120. helena says:
    @Anonymous
    Well good luck to them if they attempt to out-breed r-selected Africans.

    Wouldn't it just be simpler - and cheaper - to actually *enforce* border control, you know like the Israelis are currently doing?

    One may be more achievable than the other. But both could be pursued.

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  121. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here, including the haters and losers.

    *hatters

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  122. Whiskey says: • Website

    @Intelligent Dasien is correct mostly about the US, completely wrong about Germany.

    In the US, the argument for “muh GDP” is made consistently by both economists and P&G, Nestle, Kraft/Heinz, etc. Consumer spending is a massive component of GDP and the economy and most importantly, profits by major US corporations which wield tremendous influence over politics via money.

    Mexicans buy a lot of diapers and beer and snacks. Their market is protected and American companies have largely failed in both domestic and overseas (China, India, Africa) growth due to market saturation in the former and protectionism in the latter. So yes, in the United States is correct.

    IN GERMANY he is dead wrong. Germany is an export oriented market, with a net surplus as opposed to the US trade deficit. Consumer spending is minimal and the Germans have resisted EU entreaties to goose domestic spending. They lack any large consumer group companies, Germany is not diapers and beer and snacks, but cars and chemicals and machine tools. As such loading millions of Muslims is BAD FOR CORPORATE GERMANY.

    BMW and Daimler and Volkswagen don’t get loads of cheap workers, only 30,000 rapefugees are employed mostly by governments. Which means higher and higher corporate taxes. Goat herders are not really good at programming CNC machines nor complex assembly robots. Nor fixing both when they fail. Germany’s corporate structure gets an Occupying Army which they must provision for, while trying to compete with China and Japan on the higher end of manufactured goods. Its a loss for them. Any gain by domestic spending (Muslims are not Mexicans, they don’t spend much on diapers and snacks and don’t buy much beer) goes to foreign companies like P&G (US) or Nestle (Swiss).

    HOWEVER, the gains to Nice White Ladies are immense. Rape and abuse and sexual slavery to their main rivals — working class White women competing for the small group of Alphas? A bonus. Swaggering dominant and violent low IQ men? That’s like having Fifty Shades of Grey without the money but with even more power (and lots of BO but women will do anything for the tingles).

    This is the fatal flaw in WN. They are White Knights to the core. Women don’t think, they FEELZ. And its Tingles Uber Alles, no matter what the cost. Its why Feminists defend Muslim rapes, suppress the information, and dutifully submit to wearing hijabs while screaming about dorks with dongle jokes or “triggering” memos. Beta Male White men are the eternal, forever enemy of Nice White Ladies, always have been, always will be. Because the former don’t create the tingles in the latter, they take the tingles away. Like a lecture on Baseball Stats.

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  123. @NickG

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home?
     
    We are unable to muster the political will to even stop third world immigration to western Europeans countries and those settled by western Europeans, when these levels amount to demographic assault and de-facto ethnic cleansing.

    With even a rudimentary knowledge of history it's difficult to see how this is not going to result in increasing inter-ethnic and sectarian strife. Though I suspect the massive surveillance state and political correctness will serve to keep the lid on really effective native dissent for a goodly while yet. Perhaps long enough make it futile. There does also seem to be a bug, a vulnerability, in the Western European psyche - the pathological altruism thing. Making this co-operating, out breeding group especially vulnerable to groups of in breeding, tribalists let en-masse into our societies who are not pre-disposed to reciprocate these tendencies. People who come from lands who run their deeply socially and genetically co-evolved mental sub-routines on different heuristics.

    Unfortunately 2 devastating twentieth century wars have likely culled the gene pool of many of those best pre-disposed to drive Western society's 'immune' response. Basically we are a bunch of pussies.

    Dead on post Nick.

    With even a rudimentary knowledge of history it’s difficult to see how this is not going to result in increasing inter-ethnic and sectarian strife.

    The most striking thing about the current liberal consensus is just how obviously and objectively stupid it is. Anyone with the slightest education in human affairs–history, behavior–should be repelled by it intellectually for precisely this reason.

    Though I suspect the massive surveillance state and political correctness will serve to keep the lid on really effective native dissent for a goodly while yet.

    War is the health of the state.

    There does also seem to be a bug, a vulnerability, in the Western European psyche – the pathological altruism thing. Making this co-operating, out breeding group especially vulnerable to groups of in breeding, tribalists let en-masse into our societies who are not pre-disposed to reciprocate these tendencies. People who come from lands who run their deeply socially and genetically co-evolved mental sub-routines on different heuristics.

    Dead, dead on. Evolving the highest affective empathy in human history was a very powerful aid in building high-trust nations and pushing Europe ahead. But it makes us extremely vulnerable to exploitation by outsiders. Individual non-Westerners can be demographically absorbed in small numbers. But no foreign tribes should ever be allowed in, or worse allowed to propagate inside the West. It is absolutely devastating.

    Unless we can really turn things around in the next generation, this will have been our Achilles heel. (And the world will pass over to Chinese ownership. Depressing.)

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  124. @NickG

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home?
     
    We are unable to muster the political will to even stop third world immigration to western Europeans countries and those settled by western Europeans, when these levels amount to demographic assault and de-facto ethnic cleansing.

    With even a rudimentary knowledge of history it's difficult to see how this is not going to result in increasing inter-ethnic and sectarian strife. Though I suspect the massive surveillance state and political correctness will serve to keep the lid on really effective native dissent for a goodly while yet. Perhaps long enough make it futile. There does also seem to be a bug, a vulnerability, in the Western European psyche - the pathological altruism thing. Making this co-operating, out breeding group especially vulnerable to groups of in breeding, tribalists let en-masse into our societies who are not pre-disposed to reciprocate these tendencies. People who come from lands who run their deeply socially and genetically co-evolved mental sub-routines on different heuristics.

    Unfortunately 2 devastating twentieth century wars have likely culled the gene pool of many of those best pre-disposed to drive Western society's 'immune' response. Basically we are a bunch of pussies.

    Unfortunately 2 devastating twentieth century wars have likely culled the gene pool of many of those best pre-disposed to drive Western society’s ‘immune’ response. Basically we are a bunch of pussies.

    I’ve wondered about this too. But while I haven’t done the math, my understanding from reading the genetics guys is it is very hard for these sort of single events to move to the genetic needle much. And i’m not sure how much selection there is on the battlefield–the tough hombres may preferentially survive just as much as preferentially die–much less from aerial bombardment.

    I think the real deal is that women have been “liberated” to have a much bigger impact socially, culturally, politically. So literally “we are a bunch of pussies.”

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    The "World Wars killed everyone brave" theory is stupid and sad. I'm pretty sure there have been mass die offs in the turd world that make the body count for WWII look like a joke but they still go on killing each other.
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  125. @AnotherDad

    Unfortunately 2 devastating twentieth century wars have likely culled the gene pool of many of those best pre-disposed to drive Western society’s ‘immune’ response. Basically we are a bunch of pussies.
     
    I've wondered about this too. But while I haven't done the math, my understanding from reading the genetics guys is it is very hard for these sort of single events to move to the genetic needle much. And i'm not sure how much selection there is on the battlefield--the tough hombres may preferentially survive just as much as preferentially die--much less from aerial bombardment.

    I think the real deal is that women have been "liberated" to have a much bigger impact socially, culturally, politically. So literally "we are a bunch of pussies."

    The “World Wars killed everyone brave” theory is stupid and sad. I’m pretty sure there have been mass die offs in the turd world that make the body count for WWII look like a joke but they still go on killing each other.

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  126. Neoconned says:
    @Barnard
    Right, the refugees have to go back. The situation in Iraq has been improving so some should be returning already. Although many of them are not from Iraq and Syria and aren't refugees in the first place. If it is going to take nine years to send back Haitians here after an earthquake, I'm not very hope Europe can get it done.

    AWe should pursue policies similar to what Jewish and white ethnic elites in Chicago and the Bay Area pursue…..

    In California they water down Mexican/Latino political will and power by importing Asians and middle easterners….

    In Chicago they’ve invited in the Latin hordes to stifle black politicos and race hustlers and to have a benign laborer class who won’t stir up shit and unionize like white working class types and blacks….

    Maybe we should invite in say the totality of the Arab Christian populations and resettle them in say Detroit, Baltimore, Philly etc.

    Bring in the Boers and all the white S. Africans who want to leave that shit continent…..

    Put them in Minnesota to blunt the somalis and in Illinois to blunt the Latino mob that bad brought our 5th largest state to the edge of bankruptcy….

    Dilution works better for the elites than us but if we have to have it why not play it to our advantage?

    Single white dude? How would you like a hot young Arab Christian or Boer wife to soothe your issues?

    At the end of the day I’d rather have Boers than somalis having my back and Arab Christians rather than Moslem Pakistanis….

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  127. @NickG

    Now, can anyone on earth figure out how to get the millions of third-worlders afflicting western industrial democracies to go home?
     
    We are unable to muster the political will to even stop third world immigration to western Europeans countries and those settled by western Europeans, when these levels amount to demographic assault and de-facto ethnic cleansing.

    With even a rudimentary knowledge of history it's difficult to see how this is not going to result in increasing inter-ethnic and sectarian strife. Though I suspect the massive surveillance state and political correctness will serve to keep the lid on really effective native dissent for a goodly while yet. Perhaps long enough make it futile. There does also seem to be a bug, a vulnerability, in the Western European psyche - the pathological altruism thing. Making this co-operating, out breeding group especially vulnerable to groups of in breeding, tribalists let en-masse into our societies who are not pre-disposed to reciprocate these tendencies. People who come from lands who run their deeply socially and genetically co-evolved mental sub-routines on different heuristics.

    Unfortunately 2 devastating twentieth century wars have likely culled the gene pool of many of those best pre-disposed to drive Western society's 'immune' response. Basically we are a bunch of pussies.

    I’m descended from the (single, only surviving) youngest brothers of my many vanished, maimed and childless great uncles. One grandad did manage to sneak in underage (15), but was found out and sent to serve out the war as RFC ground crew in Oxfordshire, another sent to back up the Black&Tans by the time he was old enough, after the continental war (as a teenage apprentice butcher in the cookhouse, calm down Fenians). One great grandad died attempting to relieve Kut-al-Amara, in the sandbox, but left behind an absolute herd of daughters (he was 37).

    By this hypothesis, kid brothers are invariably incrementally faggier than the firstborn.
    Smells like a /pol/-tier meme to me, but not inconceivable, being the oldest of four :¬)

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  128. @RonaldB
    I was going to bring up that point but you beat me to it.

    The article takes liberties with the known facts by describing her decision to import immigrants as "rash". Simply because a sociopathic Stasi-graduate politician takes an action disastrous to her constituency, doesn't mean she didn't fully anticipate the consequences.

    We cannot know her internal motivations, but it doesn't matter. Her external actions and their consequences are there for anyone to see. If someone has a gun pointed towards you and is squeezing the trigger, it's not necessary to know whether they are insane, sociopathic, or criminal. Your response is the same in all cases, if you expect to survive.

    The article takes liberties with the known facts by describing her decision to import immigrants as “rash”. Simply because a sociopathic Stasi-graduate politician takes an action disastrous to her constituency, doesn’t mean she didn’t fully anticipate the consequences.
    We cannot know her internal motivations, but it doesn’t matter. Her external actions and their consequences are there for anyone to see.

    Good comment. May I add some further context?

    From the German Federal Government website, 2010:

    European Prize for the Chancellor
    The European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi has awarded Chancellor Angela Merkel the European Prize 2010. The prize is awarded every two years for exceptional contributions to the European unification process.

    Angela Merkel is the second German head of government (after Helmut Kohl who received the prize in 1990) to be awarded this prize.

    The European Prize is based on the vision of the diplomat, philosopher and publisher Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi. His family had its roots in several European countries. In 1922 Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi founded the Paneuropean Union, the oldest European unification movement… For this, he is deemed the founder of the modern democratic vision of Europe.

    The Coudenhove-Kalergi Foundation was established in 1978 by the Paneuropean Union to strengthen the vision of European unification. In 2008 it became a society, with headquarters in Vienna.

    Angela Merkel praised the consistent work of the European Society in fostering the European idea and the European unification process.

    So this European Society which honoured Angela Merkel is the former Coudenhove-Kalergi Foundation, which was established by the Paneuropean Union, which was founded by Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi to further what has become known as “The Kalergi Plan“: the creation of a unified “mixed-race” European Union.

    From Wikipedia:

    In his book Praktischer Idealismus (Practical Idealism), written in 1925, Coudenhove-Kalergi describes the future of Jews in Europe and of European racial composition with the following words:

    “The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today’s races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals. [...]

    Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit.

    This happened at the moment when Europe’s feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation”.

    Merkel’s extraordinary action in inviting any self-identifying “refugees” into Europe may have been “rash”. It may even have been, in Lurker’s word, a “mistake”. But the fact that it furthers the aims of Coudenhove-Kalergi’s PanEuropean Union hints at one possible “internal motivation” for her remarkable persistence.

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  129. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Jack Hanson
    You're missing the point in order to white knight for Sailer. Many such cases! Sad! Discussing the problem isnt the same as discussing the end game. A Bernie Bro lights up a church in Texas and not a word from Sailer. He's got plenty of words on golf courses tho.

    The reality is these guys keep talking about Citizenism as a way forward. Citizenism had maybe a chance in beginning of the 80 s. If you think that either writer (or Reed, or Derb) is honestly confronting where this is going, you're part of the problem. "See no evil", as Jenner Ickham puts it, is the sign of an unserious mind.

    These guys are about as serious as it gets.

    If we did not have people like Sailer and Brimelow, it is unlikely we would be anywhere close to where we are now.

    And where are we?

    People are starting to wake up that this Republic they thought they lived in is gone, carved out at the heart by stupid and venal traitorous elites.

    You may want to start the war now, but you need an intellectual foundation to justify your actions.

    Sailer and Brimelow have helped to build that foundation at personal costs to themselves.

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  130. Ben Frank says:

    Manschluss!

    Austria annexed by Germany in 1938.

    Germany annexed by MENA in 2015.

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  131. @yaqub the mad scientist
    You're really not staring down at anything if you've decided that you don't care what happens two generations down the road. That's the underlying thing to this: do you really care what happens after you're gone?

    It almost brings up the question as to whether some see this mass change as a kind of redistributive justice that that they want brought about, but are too cowardly to inflict the brunt of on themselves, so they punish their descendents.

    It almost brings up the question as to whether some see this mass change as a kind of redistributive justice that that they want brought about, but are too cowardly to inflict the brunt of on themselves, so they punish their descendents.

    Correction: They punish our descendants. Cat ladies like Merkel won’t have any descendants of their own.

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  132. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Yep.

    That's basically what 'religion' is all about.
    Lefties have always reminded me of the most fanatical religious believers.

    Very astute observation.

    Leftists are as foolishly delusional as are any garden variety Muslim nutjob, Orthodox Jew, or evangelical Christian awaiting the rapture.

    The human ability to say up is down and black is white while unlocking the secrets of the atom will doom the species.

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