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Bernie (in blue) walks off without being allowed to speak

For years, deep thinkers in the Republican Brain Trust have been worrying over how the GOP can survive while being seen as the White Party, in contrast to the lovely rainbow coalition of the Democrats. But I’ve been pointing out that black activists will increasingly view the Democrats as, rightfully, their personal Black Party, a development which can’t help but cause nagging second thoughts among Asians, Hispanics, and liberal whites.

From The Hill today :

Protesters shut down Bernie Sanders rally

August 08, 2015, 05:59 pm
By Elliot Smilowitz and Megan R. Wilson

Protesters who claimed affiliation with the Black Lives Matter movement stormed the stage during a rally for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in Seattle on Saturday, taking over the microphone and forcing Sanders to leave without ever speaking.

Moments after Sanders took the stage at Westlake Park, two women and one man climbed the stage and confronted the Democratic presidential candidate, demanding a chance to speak.

After several moments of confusion and confrontation, an event organizer took the microphone and said the protesters would be allowed to speak before Sanders. Some in the crowd booed.

One protester, who identified herself as Marissa Johnson, began by saying, “I was going to tell Bernie how racist this city is — with all of its progressives — but you’ve already done that for me. Thank you.”

Johnson spoke, among other things, about police violence in Seattle, mentioning a federal investigation into the city’s law enforcement that resulted in the appointment of a monitor to make sure Seattle police were complying with the terms set forth by the Justice Department.

“Bernie says that he’s all about the people and about grassroots. The biggest grassroots movement in this country right now is Black Lives Matter,” she added.

She then mentioned the anniversary event that sparked the Black Lives Matter movement — the shooting of an unarmed black teenager named Michael Brown by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo. last year.

Johnson requested four-and-a-half minutes of silence from the crowd, to honor the four-and-a-half hours Brown allegedly laid dead in the street after being killed.

Some in the crowd jeered the protesters and yelled “get off the stage,” but others replied “let her talk.”

At times, shouts of “arrest her” were audible.

After the four-and-a-half minutes, protesters did not relinquish the stage.

“If you care about Black Lives Matter, as you say you do, you will hold Bernie Sanders specifically accountable for his actions,” Johnson continued.

She mentioned a similar interruption by Black Lives Matter activists during the annual progressive NetRoots Nation gathering. Protestors flooded the stage early on in the event and shouted down Democratic presidential hopeful Martin O’Malley as well as Sanders.

“Bernie, you were confronted at NetRoots at by black women,” Johnson said before adding, “you have yet to put out a criminal reform package like O’Malley did.”

After the protesters and organizers continued the confrontation on stage, Sanders waved to the crowd and walked off the stage.

Obviously, most black voters don’t care much about Bernie Sanders one way or another, and if they hear about these incidents they would probably be a little embarrassed by them. But, our culture elevates, sanctifies, and sometimes compensates the role of Civil Rights Activist, so you get a lot of individual black attention hounds competing to be most obnoxious.

What, say, Korean-American voters think of this trend is another question.

 
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  1. Donald Trump would have told them to pound sand and laughed. His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster. The rest of the GOP field would have wilted and then started mumbling about how much they were against breast cancer or some other groveling gesture.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster.

    I was fine with that but some of Trump's over-the-top cracks about Kelly since then suggest he lacks sufficient self-discipline to handle higher office.

    At the same time, it was contemptible of the Red Staters to disinvite him from their meeting. Obviously, they don't trust their followers to make the proper evaluation of him, and that just proves Trump's point about the suffocating nature of political correctness.

    So far I've been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week's Radio Derb.
    , @Olson

    Donald Trump would have told them to pound sand and laughed. His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster. The rest of the GOP field would have wilted and then started mumbling about how much they were against breast cancer or some other groveling gesture.
     
    I agree Kelly is extremely good looking for her 44 years. However, she does the good Roman Catholic schtick even though she and her first husband divorced amicably and she moved on to lily pad #2. There is no way you can divorce amicably as a Roman Catholic. Either it is annulled for cause or you are the aggrieved and unwilling party to a divorce. So, while I wouldn't call her a slut, we can drop the good girl crap. A good girl would stay married if the guy is not abusive, adulterous, or guilty of lack of consortium.
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  2. Peter Meyer [AKA "Peter Fagan"] says:

    There’s definitely a conflict here, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I’ll wager that Black Lives Matter is just a minor flare-up, and that an increase in inner-city crime rates due to kinder, gentler policing (already seemingly underway) will make whites that much less sympathetic to it. Blacks are generally too disorganized to effect major political change; they’ll be bribed, brainwashed and outmaneuvered as necessary. Asians have a lot of resentment of whites too, as well as tendency towards passivity, but their values are basically white values and they’ll mobilize if their own interests are severely threatened (e.g., the push to end race-neutral admissions in California). The Democratic leadership understand that hypocrisy is an effective political strategy: just pretend to care about ghetto blacks and you can get away with anything.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I’ll wager that Black Lives Matter is just a minor flare-up, and that an increase in inner-city crime rates due to kinder, gentler policing (already seemingly underway) will make whites that much less sympathetic to it.

    Are whites going to boo the Black Lives Matter agitators and physically remove them from the stage when they perpetrate this kind of stunt? Because that's what is necessary. It's hard to imagine liberal whites getting to that point. It would require a real change of perspective.

  3. SPMoore8 says:

    I have only two questions: What did they do for four and half minutes of silence, and second, if they are sufficiently brain dead to make that gesture, why didn’t they demand the entire four and half hours?

    This is Occupy Wall Street for the Democratic Party.

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    • Replies: @Polynices
    Uh, I'm pretty sure Occupy Wall Street was the Occupy Wall Street for the Democratic Party. ;)

    Seattle is such a basket case. I tell people I'm from here but I actually live in one of the wealthy, low-crime suburbs like every last sensible person in the Seattle area.
    , @Anonymous
    What did they do for four and half minutes of silence,

    Put on an impromptu (and perhaps inadvertent) performance of John Cage's 4'33".

    People always told me he was ahead of his time, and I guess I was wrong for doubting them.
  4. Polynices says:
    @SPMoore8
    I have only two questions: What did they do for four and half minutes of silence, and second, if they are sufficiently brain dead to make that gesture, why didn't they demand the entire four and half hours?

    This is Occupy Wall Street for the Democratic Party.

    Uh, I’m pretty sure Occupy Wall Street was the Occupy Wall Street for the Democratic Party. ;)

    Seattle is such a basket case. I tell people I’m from here but I actually live in one of the wealthy, low-crime suburbs like every last sensible person in the Seattle area.

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    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @Olorin
    Hear hear.

    I'm off-circuits for awhile relatively speaking but heard about this from some HBD-leaning progs in Pugetopolis North and also a few still-clueless ones in Olyville (state capitol, to the south end of the Sound--more a basketweaving case thanks to The Evergreen State College; Olympia, to which a friend once referred as "an entire city that rides the short bus").

    What the progs of my acquaintance can't seem to fathom is that their progressivism was in fact originally, and for much of its history, a pro-white, eugenicist movement, for all the right reasons. So they really like Bernie because deep down he's a pro-white eugenicist of the old timey type. Like the original Wisconsin progs. Who were Republicans rebelling against their own party's Machine.

    So when their pet diversimelanists get all unruly and stuff, I have to wonder who's pulling the strings. In whose interest is it to make such Situationist street theatre happen? In whose interest was it, in 1999?

    In whose interest is it, in 2015, to pretend that black lives are anything but extreme tedium and exponential dysfunction, wrapped in amygdala hijacks and possessing big microphones? These people shouldn't be told to go pound sand, they should be rounded up and herded away like the escaped ferals they are.

    Of course we know that Bernie's role isn't to appear effective. It's to rally a certain demographic and tell them to click on Hillary at the appointed time.
  5. Sorry but he flunked this test. If Bernie Sanders can’t handle nobody American megalomaniacs then how will he handle foreign ones?

    And most leaders of most countries are megalomaniacs.

    Of course at his age he just may be tired. Its time for your nap Mr. Sanders, you’ve had enough excitement for one day.

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    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Or maybe, coming from Vermont, he's not used to dealing with crude protesters who act like unruly children. He's used to calm and reasonable debate.

    Unfortunately, Sanders is getting an education on the realities of big city politics.

    Next time he does an event like this, he should get some friendly advice on crowd management from one of the Mayor Daley type of old school Democrats.
  6. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’m guessing this is being bankrolled and supported by Hillary supporters? They never seem to show up at Hillary events.

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    • Replies: @rod1963
    I suspect this is the case, otherwise she'd be targeted. I also suspect she is paying them a lot of hush money as well.

    Really at the end of the day, these blacks are about extortion just like Jesse Jackson was.
    , @Joe Magarac
    I don't think Hillary is bankrolling them.

    Her people actively keep them away (and likewise other potential disrupters).
    , @p s c
    The "Black Lives Matter" crowd may indeed be funded by Soros/Hillary. But if agitators attempted to do the same at a Hillary function, the US Secret Service would stop it cold. Before it would happen.

    Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley lack the same protection.
  7. @Prof. Woland
    Donald Trump would have told them to pound sand and laughed. His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster. The rest of the GOP field would have wilted and then started mumbling about how much they were against breast cancer or some other groveling gesture.

    His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster.

    I was fine with that but some of Trump’s over-the-top cracks about Kelly since then suggest he lacks sufficient self-discipline to handle higher office.

    At the same time, it was contemptible of the Red Staters to disinvite him from their meeting. Obviously, they don’t trust their followers to make the proper evaluation of him, and that just proves Trump’s point about the suffocating nature of political correctness.

    So far I’ve been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week’s Radio Derb.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    So far I’ve been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week’s Radio Derb.
     
    Alas, ain't gonna happen. It's just not his nature, and eventually one of these flameouts will supply the coup de grace.

    Then we'll be back to 'business as usual' unless, of course, he goes third party. What party will that be, I wonder?
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Nothing wrong with what Trump said. Megyn Kelly is a whore of Rupert Murdoch and his oligarch friends. Her questions were a hit job designed to destroy Trump. I'm glad he fired right back.

    I just hope voters are smart enough to understand what's happening.
    , @Mr. Anon
    America is a circus. There is no reason not to elect a clown President.

    Any Republican who tells Fox News to pound sand is already a better class of Republican.
  8. @Peter Meyer
    There's definitely a conflict here, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I'll wager that Black Lives Matter is just a minor flare-up, and that an increase in inner-city crime rates due to kinder, gentler policing (already seemingly underway) will make whites that much less sympathetic to it. Blacks are generally too disorganized to effect major political change; they'll be bribed, brainwashed and outmaneuvered as necessary. Asians have a lot of resentment of whites too, as well as tendency towards passivity, but their values are basically white values and they'll mobilize if their own interests are severely threatened (e.g., the push to end race-neutral admissions in California). The Democratic leadership understand that hypocrisy is an effective political strategy: just pretend to care about ghetto blacks and you can get away with anything.

    I’ll wager that Black Lives Matter is just a minor flare-up, and that an increase in inner-city crime rates due to kinder, gentler policing (already seemingly underway) will make whites that much less sympathetic to it.

    Are whites going to boo the Black Lives Matter agitators and physically remove them from the stage when they perpetrate this kind of stunt? Because that’s what is necessary. It’s hard to imagine liberal whites getting to that point. It would require a real change of perspective.

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    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    In the article, it mentions that the BlackLives protesters were booed.
    , @Bill
    It's harder to imagine conservative whites getting there.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Or just hiring black security.
  9. You haven’t lived until your restaurant meal has been interrupted by a crew of these self-centered attention whores, marching around the dining room, banging on pots and plates. “It’s all about us,” they wail. “Black Black Blackety Black!” they insist.

    Any place they are permitted to go, they will practice their ‘performance art’. As hinted above, one rational response is to completely cease law-enforcement activities in black ‘hoods, since it grates so severely on dey style. I like where this is headed.

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    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    One response would be for whites to start self-policing their neighborhoods, like they used to (at least in blue collar urban areas) back in the 80s. No need for a police state when outsiders are intimidated by local neighborhood tough guys.

    Of course, some of those tough guys run wild too, so you got that problem.
  10. Olorin says:
    @Polynices
    Uh, I'm pretty sure Occupy Wall Street was the Occupy Wall Street for the Democratic Party. ;)

    Seattle is such a basket case. I tell people I'm from here but I actually live in one of the wealthy, low-crime suburbs like every last sensible person in the Seattle area.

    Hear hear.

    I’m off-circuits for awhile relatively speaking but heard about this from some HBD-leaning progs in Pugetopolis North and also a few still-clueless ones in Olyville (state capitol, to the south end of the Sound–more a basketweaving case thanks to The Evergreen State College; Olympia, to which a friend once referred as “an entire city that rides the short bus”).

    What the progs of my acquaintance can’t seem to fathom is that their progressivism was in fact originally, and for much of its history, a pro-white, eugenicist movement, for all the right reasons. So they really like Bernie because deep down he’s a pro-white eugenicist of the old timey type. Like the original Wisconsin progs. Who were Republicans rebelling against their own party’s Machine.

    So when their pet diversimelanists get all unruly and stuff, I have to wonder who’s pulling the strings. In whose interest is it to make such Situationist street theatre happen? In whose interest was it, in 1999?

    In whose interest is it, in 2015, to pretend that black lives are anything but extreme tedium and exponential dysfunction, wrapped in amygdala hijacks and possessing big microphones? These people shouldn’t be told to go pound sand, they should be rounded up and herded away like the escaped ferals they are.

    Of course we know that Bernie’s role isn’t to appear effective. It’s to rally a certain demographic and tell them to click on Hillary at the appointed time.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    1) Uh, I don't look at Sanders and see "Mugwump WASP progressive" so much. He is very much in the style of Yiddish-newspaper-editor trade unionists which have a long history in both the urban N.E. and the upper Midwest (Wellstone was another). Because of the blue-collar labor activism that's still distinct from the po-mo multicult gay-wedding chic of modern apex liberalism. As recently as the 90s Democrat finances weren't dominated by a few coastal movie execs and hedge fund maestros. Actually industrial labor consciousness has been slower to die off in Seattle due to the nostalgia for aerospace jobs.

    2) OlyWa's a very odd place--more "Portlandish" than Portland itself, if that makes sense...

  11. @Harry Baldwin
    I’ll wager that Black Lives Matter is just a minor flare-up, and that an increase in inner-city crime rates due to kinder, gentler policing (already seemingly underway) will make whites that much less sympathetic to it.

    Are whites going to boo the Black Lives Matter agitators and physically remove them from the stage when they perpetrate this kind of stunt? Because that's what is necessary. It's hard to imagine liberal whites getting to that point. It would require a real change of perspective.

    In the article, it mentions that the BlackLives protesters were booed.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    From the article it sounded like they got a few boos, and knowing SWPLs, I'm sure others around the booers told them to be quiet. I mean loud, sustained booing from the majority of the crowd that drowns out the Black Lives Matter agitators.
  12. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I didn’t think Kelly’s question at the debate was a sh*t test — procedurally it was fairly in bounds, if extremely dull, clichéd, and low-utility — but I’m beginning to think Donald reacted to it that way. Much as I admired the sentiment of “I don’t have time for PC” he completely muffed the answer with the beta bit about “I’ve been nice to you.” And then, yukking it up about her later with the newsclowns. Act like you’ve been there before, bub

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  13. But, our culture elevates, sanctifies, and sometimes compensates the role of Civil Rights Activist…

    Is it our culture that elevates, sanctifies, and sometimes compensates the role of Civil Rights Activist, or is the rich and powerful people, corporations and nonprofits of this nation that do this?

    And if so, why?

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  14. Sanders wouldn’t curtail police presence in da hood if his life depended on it. Instead, he’d appoint some commissions to study how we can funnel more funds and initiate more programs for the betterment……

    Trump would tell them to F off. What we need, instead of the tiresome, cynical ‘establishment’ candidates, is an election between Trump and Sanders. Now that would be fun, and even a bit closer to Democracy since they’re about the only two in the race who actually believe what they say.

    We’re in this handbasket, might as well enjoy the ride.

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  15. @Harry Baldwin
    His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster.

    I was fine with that but some of Trump's over-the-top cracks about Kelly since then suggest he lacks sufficient self-discipline to handle higher office.

    At the same time, it was contemptible of the Red Staters to disinvite him from their meeting. Obviously, they don't trust their followers to make the proper evaluation of him, and that just proves Trump's point about the suffocating nature of political correctness.

    So far I've been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week's Radio Derb.

    So far I’ve been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week’s Radio Derb.

    Alas, ain’t gonna happen. It’s just not his nature, and eventually one of these flameouts will supply the coup de grace.

    Then we’ll be back to ‘business as usual’ unless, of course, he goes third party. What party will that be, I wonder?

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Yes. The giant sucking sound you hear is votes leaving the Republican candidate. Same strategy that got Clinton 1 elected.

    The only consolation is that, if the Republican were elected, that would also be a fiasco.
    , @SPMoore8
    Like I said earlier today, Trump's function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard.

    As long as he does that, then the other candidates will be able to at least talk about it through the open Overton Window. His candidacy also makes irrelevant the Jeb! Betatudes "Blessed are the meek who accept the authority of their Mexican wives, for they shall be president of the United States" nonsense.

    Trump will not be President, and I think he knows this very well. He's simply spending some of his money to get some important issues on the table. And I am grateful for that.
  16. It’s a shame that the Republican party will continue to be viable. It’s mainly a party of oligarchs, war profiteers, and Israeli firsters. If whites were sensible, they’d jump ship.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    An increasing number of people are dying to jump ship--they can perceive how corrupt and sclerotic today's Republican Party is--but they'd rather jump into another ship instead of into the deep, dark ocean.

    Trouble is, as everyone here knows well, the existing two-party state will do everything in its power (which is a lot) to prevent the viability of a third party.

    , @Jefferson
    "It’s a shame that the Republican party will continue to be viable. It’s mainly a party of oligarchs, war profiteers, and Israeli firsters. If whites were sensible, they’d jump ship."

    Where should Whites jump ship to? The Black Party a.k.a The Democratic Party? The Democratic Party has become the McDonald's of political parties. Tah tah tah tah, the DNC is luvin it.

    In Southern states like South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana for example The Democratic Party has become as Black as a Tyler Perry movie with the occasional token Whitey sprinkled in. Even Tyler Perry occasionally cast some token Whites in his films.
  17. asdf says:

    What is Bernie to make of this?

    1. I’m for these guys
    2. They don’t want me.
    3. Why?

    Bernie might, if he has an open mind, learn some lessons that disturb his worldview.

    I’d love to see an honest diary of someone like Bernie.

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  18. @Harry Baldwin
    His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster.

    I was fine with that but some of Trump's over-the-top cracks about Kelly since then suggest he lacks sufficient self-discipline to handle higher office.

    At the same time, it was contemptible of the Red Staters to disinvite him from their meeting. Obviously, they don't trust their followers to make the proper evaluation of him, and that just proves Trump's point about the suffocating nature of political correctness.

    So far I've been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week's Radio Derb.

    Nothing wrong with what Trump said. Megyn Kelly is a whore of Rupert Murdoch and his oligarch friends. Her questions were a hit job designed to destroy Trump. I’m glad he fired right back.

    I just hope voters are smart enough to understand what’s happening.

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    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Nothing wrong with what Trump said. Megyn Kelly is a whore of Rupert Murdoch and his oligarch friends. Her questions were a hit job designed to destroy Trump.

    There was a perfectly relevant reason for Kelly to ask the question, and it was contained in her question, which is, if Trump has a history of sound bites calling women all kinds of names, how will that play in an election with Hillary? (We're talking about winning an election, which is going to require some women's votes.) And it's not a question of "political correctness" either: the kinds of words Trump uses for women he doesn't like are simply vulgar, crude, and ungentlemanly for a man to ever use about any woman in public. It amazes me that anyone cannot see that.

    Sure, as a guy, I have said similar things about women, and other guys, and I know that making fun of a person's looks or gender is a common theme on most bulletin boards. But we aren't running for President either.

    Not only that, but it is evident that Trump got a wild hair up his, uh, *Nose* at the question, such that, after answering it, he then started to act like Kelly was attacking him, after being so nice to her. That points to an inability to tolerate legitimate criticism of any kind, to take it personally, and to lash out at the person making it. Again, it was a question that needed to be asked and answered. This was Trump's opportunity to get control of the issue. He failed, and then he compounded it with his other comments.

    Here's the question, and response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Vnzf3Yhmo
    , @olson

    I just hope voters are smart enough to understand what’s happening.
     
    they aren't
  19. Dahlia says:

    Darn, Steve! I put up my link and quote-filled take on this at the end of the debate thread… it’s like the 250th comment, rats on my timing!

    FWIW, http://www.unz.com/isteve/what-did-you-think-of-the-gop-debate/#comment-1048795

    My personal belief is that it is astroturf and that Blacks are getting a bum rap. 33 million from one man means he owns the thing and BLM goes after only Bernie. Not Hillary. Also, when Cecil the Lion absolutely dwarfs the movement… There isn’t much there there.

    I’ve been following Bernie closely with respect to his “amends” and outreach after Netroots and nobody has done more to ingratiate themselves to that movement than he. It could speak to their profound stupidity and megalomania, but why would they be so out of touch with other Blacks? Yes, most are low-information voters who don’t care at this point, but why are they ignoring Hillary? What’s with the laser focus on Bernie?

    This also does not take into account Zuckerberg’s FWD “Dreamers”, astroturfers I saw with my own eyes once as they happened to be standing right next to my van when I was breastfeeding, getting their hours before boarding a private, expensive bus (I mentioned that incident here before).
    These are the same guys who later crashed their own supporters, even causing Obama to remind them that he was on their side and get exasperated with them… Amerindian megalomania or oligarchs whose motto is, “No brakes”?

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  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Olorin
    Hear hear.

    I'm off-circuits for awhile relatively speaking but heard about this from some HBD-leaning progs in Pugetopolis North and also a few still-clueless ones in Olyville (state capitol, to the south end of the Sound--more a basketweaving case thanks to The Evergreen State College; Olympia, to which a friend once referred as "an entire city that rides the short bus").

    What the progs of my acquaintance can't seem to fathom is that their progressivism was in fact originally, and for much of its history, a pro-white, eugenicist movement, for all the right reasons. So they really like Bernie because deep down he's a pro-white eugenicist of the old timey type. Like the original Wisconsin progs. Who were Republicans rebelling against their own party's Machine.

    So when their pet diversimelanists get all unruly and stuff, I have to wonder who's pulling the strings. In whose interest is it to make such Situationist street theatre happen? In whose interest was it, in 1999?

    In whose interest is it, in 2015, to pretend that black lives are anything but extreme tedium and exponential dysfunction, wrapped in amygdala hijacks and possessing big microphones? These people shouldn't be told to go pound sand, they should be rounded up and herded away like the escaped ferals they are.

    Of course we know that Bernie's role isn't to appear effective. It's to rally a certain demographic and tell them to click on Hillary at the appointed time.

    1) Uh, I don’t look at Sanders and see “Mugwump WASP progressive” so much. He is very much in the style of Yiddish-newspaper-editor trade unionists which have a long history in both the urban N.E. and the upper Midwest (Wellstone was another). Because of the blue-collar labor activism that’s still distinct from the po-mo multicult gay-wedding chic of modern apex liberalism. As recently as the 90s Democrat finances weren’t dominated by a few coastal movie execs and hedge fund maestros. Actually industrial labor consciousness has been slower to die off in Seattle due to the nostalgia for aerospace jobs.

    2) OlyWa’s a very odd place–more “Portlandish” than Portland itself, if that makes sense…

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    • Replies: @Bill
    You are dreaming. Trade unionism is thoroughly cultural Marxist. Look:

    http://www.aflcio.org/Press-Room/Press-Releases/Statement-by-AFL-CIO-President-Richard-L.-Trumka-on-Marriage-Equality

    Richard Trumka, currently president of the AFL-CIO, used to be president of the UMWA. The M stands for mineworkers.

    Sanders might be a throwback: he's old. But the thing he is a throwback to is gone.
  21. @Kyle McKenna

    So far I’ve been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week’s Radio Derb.
     
    Alas, ain't gonna happen. It's just not his nature, and eventually one of these flameouts will supply the coup de grace.

    Then we'll be back to 'business as usual' unless, of course, he goes third party. What party will that be, I wonder?

    Yes. The giant sucking sound you hear is votes leaving the Republican candidate. Same strategy that got Clinton 1 elected.

    The only consolation is that, if the Republican were elected, that would also be a fiasco.

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  22. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s just a phony front group created by Soros and others. Perhaps Sanders’ campaign is being targeted because he might promote ideas that they don’t want to have popularized.

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  23. @JohnnyWalker123
    In the article, it mentions that the BlackLives protesters were booed.

    From the article it sounded like they got a few boos, and knowing SWPLs, I’m sure others around the booers told them to be quiet. I mean loud, sustained booing from the majority of the crowd that drowns out the Black Lives Matter agitators.

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    When I listened to the entire videos, I heard a lot of booing in some parts and genuine consternation. Not much as I would've liked, but more than you'd expect from liberals.

    Good for them.
  24. countenance says: • Website

    Bern has to be scared witless now that he has discovered the vibrant non-Vermont body politic and electorate.

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  25. SPMoore8 says:
    @Kyle McKenna

    So far I’ve been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week’s Radio Derb.
     
    Alas, ain't gonna happen. It's just not his nature, and eventually one of these flameouts will supply the coup de grace.

    Then we'll be back to 'business as usual' unless, of course, he goes third party. What party will that be, I wonder?

    Like I said earlier today, Trump’s function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard.

    As long as he does that, then the other candidates will be able to at least talk about it through the open Overton Window. His candidacy also makes irrelevant the Jeb! Betatudes “Blessed are the meek who accept the authority of their Mexican wives, for they shall be president of the United States” nonsense.

    Trump will not be President, and I think he knows this very well. He’s simply spending some of his money to get some important issues on the table. And I am grateful for that.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Why don't you think the immigration issue will be swept right back under the rug when Trump flames out, as he surely will? The forces in favor of unlimited immigration are, alas, far richer and more powerful than one bloviating billionaire.
    , @rod1963
    Hitting isn't enough, it has to be changed and no one outside of Trump will do that. You think Carly(who is a DREAMer/amnesty supporter/off-shorer), Cruz who wants to increase H1-B workers x5 and has never done squat in terms of immigration, Rubio or any of the others care? Hell the rest are even worse.

    There's not a male in the race that has a set of cajones that isn't in Chamber of Commerce's lockbox outside of Trump's.

    Maybe you think we can ride out another 8 years of Hillary or Jeb in the hopes we get the perfect Republican that actually cares about the country and people instead of wanting to destroy it. He'll never arrive because the GOP won't tolerate such a creature.

    I think this is our last chance. The current and last 3 presidents have been a utter disaster for the country and majority of it's people. We can't take another 8 years of another sociopath or CofC meat puppet.
    , @24AheadDotCom
    Trump’s function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard

    Trump is giving that issue more prominence than it would normally have, but other than more prominence he's not doing much good and he's doing bad.

    We'll know Trump is doing good when a) he broadens his base beyond those who already agree with him, and b) he shows even one leading amnesty fan wrong to a good part of their base.

    You'd have to work really, really hard to find even one person who'd say, "I used to believe Obama on amnesty, but Trump has opened my eyes to what's actually going on." And, without lots of people saying that, all Trump is doing is entertaining the Teaparty types.

    For those who want to do something, tweet @michaelcohen212 and tell him to get Trump to use my arguments. Because pointing out how Obama's policies increase border deaths is much better than Trump's comments. Of course, because of Dunning Kruger it's nearly impossible to get Trump's fans to understand that.
    , @Ed
    The thing is he hasn't really been hitting it hard. He made that Mexican comment which was just an aside and that's about it.
  26. Here’s Trump’s jobs-going-to-China playbook…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAHM9rXjdUo

    I’m pretty sure Bill Clinton is at home ROTFL when he watches his golfing buddy deep-sixing his wife’s opposition using the same strategy that got him elected.

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  27. Using racist violence to protest supposed racist violence. This isn’t the first time the BLM and the left have made hypocritical mockeries of themselves, but it’s getting too loud to ignore. The BLM crowd is biting the hand that feeds them. This is also direct physical aggression by coordinated BLM protesters. They can’t pass this off as some lone outsider like they normally do.

    Does this crowd ever get tired of being right so often?

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  28. @SPMoore8
    Like I said earlier today, Trump's function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard.

    As long as he does that, then the other candidates will be able to at least talk about it through the open Overton Window. His candidacy also makes irrelevant the Jeb! Betatudes "Blessed are the meek who accept the authority of their Mexican wives, for they shall be president of the United States" nonsense.

    Trump will not be President, and I think he knows this very well. He's simply spending some of his money to get some important issues on the table. And I am grateful for that.

    Why don’t you think the immigration issue will be swept right back under the rug when Trump flames out, as he surely will? The forces in favor of unlimited immigration are, alas, far richer and more powerful than one bloviating billionaire.

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  29. rod1963 says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm guessing this is being bankrolled and supported by Hillary supporters? They never seem to show up at Hillary events.

    I suspect this is the case, otherwise she’d be targeted. I also suspect she is paying them a lot of hush money as well.

    Really at the end of the day, these blacks are about extortion just like Jesse Jackson was.

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  30. SPMoore8 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Nothing wrong with what Trump said. Megyn Kelly is a whore of Rupert Murdoch and his oligarch friends. Her questions were a hit job designed to destroy Trump. I'm glad he fired right back.

    I just hope voters are smart enough to understand what's happening.

    Nothing wrong with what Trump said. Megyn Kelly is a whore of Rupert Murdoch and his oligarch friends. Her questions were a hit job designed to destroy Trump.

    There was a perfectly relevant reason for Kelly to ask the question, and it was contained in her question, which is, if Trump has a history of sound bites calling women all kinds of names, how will that play in an election with Hillary? (We’re talking about winning an election, which is going to require some women’s votes.) And it’s not a question of “political correctness” either: the kinds of words Trump uses for women he doesn’t like are simply vulgar, crude, and ungentlemanly for a man to ever use about any woman in public. It amazes me that anyone cannot see that.

    Sure, as a guy, I have said similar things about women, and other guys, and I know that making fun of a person’s looks or gender is a common theme on most bulletin boards. But we aren’t running for President either.

    Not only that, but it is evident that Trump got a wild hair up his, uh, *Nose* at the question, such that, after answering it, he then started to act like Kelly was attacking him, after being so nice to her. That points to an inability to tolerate legitimate criticism of any kind, to take it personally, and to lash out at the person making it. Again, it was a question that needed to be asked and answered. This was Trump’s opportunity to get control of the issue. He failed, and then he compounded it with his other comments.

    Here’s the question, and response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Vnzf3Yhmo

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    "question, such that, after answering it, he then started to act like Kelly was attacking him, after being so nice to her. That points to an inability to tolerate legitimate criticism of any kind, to take it personally, and to lash out at the person making it. "

    Thank you, this is the key thing that jumped out at me, and actually did seem sexist - would he have gotten so weirdly personal in response to a man and used such a phrase "I've been so nice to you"? He was nice to her so now he pouts that she asks him tough questions in a debate? It's almost absurd as a response. And I agree, it was a valid question.
  31. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    What, say, Korean-American voters think of this trend is another question.

    But, are Korean Americans an electoral force to be reckoned with?

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  32. @JohnnyWalker123
    It's a shame that the Republican party will continue to be viable. It's mainly a party of oligarchs, war profiteers, and Israeli firsters. If whites were sensible, they'd jump ship.

    An increasing number of people are dying to jump ship–they can perceive how corrupt and sclerotic today’s Republican Party is–but they’d rather jump into another ship instead of into the deep, dark ocean.

    Trouble is, as everyone here knows well, the existing two-party state will do everything in its power (which is a lot) to prevent the viability of a third party.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "Kyle McKenna says:

    An increasing number of people are dying to jump ship–they can perceive how corrupt and sclerotic today’s Republican Party is–but they’d rather jump into another ship instead of into the deep, dark ocean.

    Trouble is, as everyone here knows well, the existing two-party state will do everything in its power (which is a lot) to prevent the viability of a third party."

    A third party will never be created by a presidential election. A third party must be created in Congress. It can be too.

    If a group of sitting Republican Congressman were to openly secede from the Republican party and declare themselves a new party, they could form a third party. They might even get a few Democrats to join them (but only very few). They would have to caucus with the Republicans, but they could make demands of the Republican leadership, and they might be more effective at making demands than they are now. An American Constitutionalist Party (or whatever) chairman Jeff Sessions, with fifty or a hundred Congressman behind him would likely have more bargaining leverage with the Senate leadership than he has now.
  33. @Anonymous
    I'm guessing this is being bankrolled and supported by Hillary supporters? They never seem to show up at Hillary events.

    I don’t think Hillary is bankrolling them.

    Her people actively keep them away (and likewise other potential disrupters).

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  34. rod1963 says:
    @SPMoore8
    Like I said earlier today, Trump's function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard.

    As long as he does that, then the other candidates will be able to at least talk about it through the open Overton Window. His candidacy also makes irrelevant the Jeb! Betatudes "Blessed are the meek who accept the authority of their Mexican wives, for they shall be president of the United States" nonsense.

    Trump will not be President, and I think he knows this very well. He's simply spending some of his money to get some important issues on the table. And I am grateful for that.

    Hitting isn’t enough, it has to be changed and no one outside of Trump will do that. You think Carly(who is a DREAMer/amnesty supporter/off-shorer), Cruz who wants to increase H1-B workers x5 and has never done squat in terms of immigration, Rubio or any of the others care? Hell the rest are even worse.

    There’s not a male in the race that has a set of cajones that isn’t in Chamber of Commerce’s lockbox outside of Trump’s.

    Maybe you think we can ride out another 8 years of Hillary or Jeb in the hopes we get the perfect Republican that actually cares about the country and people instead of wanting to destroy it. He’ll never arrive because the GOP won’t tolerate such a creature.

    I think this is our last chance. The current and last 3 presidents have been a utter disaster for the country and majority of it’s people. We can’t take another 8 years of another sociopath or CofC meat puppet.

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  35. Another healthy side effect of the Trump candidacy is he does not have to use his marriage as a closet. We are 40 years into the sexual revolution and we still expect our male politicians to be faithful prudes. To get the women’s vote male politicians have been obeying the Heartiste maxim:

    “The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.”

    Bill Clinton would have had an infinitely better sex life (and probably more children and grand children) if he stayed single but he needed to keep Hilary around like a beard in order to keep getting elected. It this comes down to Trump v. Hilary it will be the fight of the century. Huzzah!

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    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Now I am reminded of Nelson Rockefeller in 1964: he was divorced, which was a no no. But he was still able to address the convention.

    Reagan was divorced, so we crossed that hurdle a long time ago.

    I have nothing against Trump, but if he wants to maintain a position in this election process, he needs to do some things: 1) Watch his mouth. 2) Not take criticism personally. 3) Be nice to women. Otherwise he doesn't have a chance. Trust me on this.

    If he plays the game properly, he will be a candidate well into 2016, long enough to force the other candidates for president (and everyone running for congress) to address the issues Trump is harping on, including immigration. OTOH, if he doesn't get the congressional and senate slates to make immigration an issue in 2016, then even if was elected he would be powerless to stop the current arrangement.

    It seems clear that the other candidates support various types of immigration because they know it will enrich their supporters and also enrich our economy in a numbers sense, even if it puts more and more native born Americans out of work and dependent on the government. We need a way out of this self destructive cycle, and that means we need a candidate to galvanize the electorate. That's Trump. But if it doesn't become a platform for hundreds of political seats in November, 2016, it's just a waste of time.
  36. SPMoore8 says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Another healthy side effect of the Trump candidacy is he does not have to use his marriage as a closet. We are 40 years into the sexual revolution and we still expect our male politicians to be faithful prudes. To get the women's vote male politicians have been obeying the Heartiste maxim:

    "The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality."

    Bill Clinton would have had an infinitely better sex life (and probably more children and grand children) if he stayed single but he needed to keep Hilary around like a beard in order to keep getting elected. It this comes down to Trump v. Hilary it will be the fight of the century. Huzzah!

    Now I am reminded of Nelson Rockefeller in 1964: he was divorced, which was a no no. But he was still able to address the convention.

    Reagan was divorced, so we crossed that hurdle a long time ago.

    I have nothing against Trump, but if he wants to maintain a position in this election process, he needs to do some things: 1) Watch his mouth. 2) Not take criticism personally. 3) Be nice to women. Otherwise he doesn’t have a chance. Trust me on this.

    If he plays the game properly, he will be a candidate well into 2016, long enough to force the other candidates for president (and everyone running for congress) to address the issues Trump is harping on, including immigration. OTOH, if he doesn’t get the congressional and senate slates to make immigration an issue in 2016, then even if was elected he would be powerless to stop the current arrangement.

    It seems clear that the other candidates support various types of immigration because they know it will enrich their supporters and also enrich our economy in a numbers sense, even if it puts more and more native born Americans out of work and dependent on the government. We need a way out of this self destructive cycle, and that means we need a candidate to galvanize the electorate. That’s Trump. But if it doesn’t become a platform for hundreds of political seats in November, 2016, it’s just a waste of time.

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    OTOH, if he doesn’t get the congressional and senate slates to make immigration an issue in 2016, then even if was elected he would be powerless to stop the current arrangement.

    Obama no longer has the house yet he seems to be able to do a great deal to foster his open-borders agenda--amnesty illegals by executive orders, order ICE not to do its job, come down hard on Arizona for trying to enforce immigration law, threaten to veto any anti-sanctuary city legislation, etc. Even without the support of congress, Trump as president could accomplish a lot in the other direction.
    , @Kyle McKenna

    I have nothing against Trump, but if he wants to maintain a position in this election process, he needs to do some things: 1) Watch his mouth. 2) Not take criticism personally. 3) Be nice to women.
     
    Three things, to most appearances, that he has never done. I'd almost argue #3 insofar as "Be nice to women" lately involves some farcical contortions, and I don't know his full history in that regard anyway.

    However, he's not really even able to give the appearance of doing so, and oddly enough, that accounts for some significant part of his appeal: WYSIWYG. Unlike nearly every other politician.

    It's too bad Trump can't 'behave' just a bit better. He'd be so much more powerful, effective, and successful if he did. But, true to form, he doesn't even keep anyone around him who could clue him in to this basic fact.
  37. Anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer

    Smart money knows peak African-American political influence in the USA was Obama. It’s over.

    Like Mayor Bradley in Los Angeles effect only national.

    But unlike Bradley there are tons of lefty DC insiders who despise Obama and can’t wait to move on from the debacle. Obama’s mafia handlers fixed the Supreme Court and that is the only reason he is not pilloried as Jimmy Carter Jr.

    The entire debacle btw was made possible by GWB and his Two Wars to Nowhere. It really does matter who gets elected POTUS.

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  38. p s c says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm guessing this is being bankrolled and supported by Hillary supporters? They never seem to show up at Hillary events.

    The “Black Lives Matter” crowd may indeed be funded by Soros/Hillary. But if agitators attempted to do the same at a Hillary function, the US Secret Service would stop it cold. Before it would happen.

    Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley lack the same protection.

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  39. @SPMoore8
    Now I am reminded of Nelson Rockefeller in 1964: he was divorced, which was a no no. But he was still able to address the convention.

    Reagan was divorced, so we crossed that hurdle a long time ago.

    I have nothing against Trump, but if he wants to maintain a position in this election process, he needs to do some things: 1) Watch his mouth. 2) Not take criticism personally. 3) Be nice to women. Otherwise he doesn't have a chance. Trust me on this.

    If he plays the game properly, he will be a candidate well into 2016, long enough to force the other candidates for president (and everyone running for congress) to address the issues Trump is harping on, including immigration. OTOH, if he doesn't get the congressional and senate slates to make immigration an issue in 2016, then even if was elected he would be powerless to stop the current arrangement.

    It seems clear that the other candidates support various types of immigration because they know it will enrich their supporters and also enrich our economy in a numbers sense, even if it puts more and more native born Americans out of work and dependent on the government. We need a way out of this self destructive cycle, and that means we need a candidate to galvanize the electorate. That's Trump. But if it doesn't become a platform for hundreds of political seats in November, 2016, it's just a waste of time.

    OTOH, if he doesn’t get the congressional and senate slates to make immigration an issue in 2016, then even if was elected he would be powerless to stop the current arrangement.

    Obama no longer has the house yet he seems to be able to do a great deal to foster his open-borders agenda–amnesty illegals by executive orders, order ICE not to do its job, come down hard on Arizona for trying to enforce immigration law, threaten to veto any anti-sanctuary city legislation, etc. Even without the support of congress, Trump as president could accomplish a lot in the other direction.

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  40. There’s black people in Seattle?

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix
    , @Jefferson
    "There’s black people in Seattle?"

    Here in The Bay Area, some locals make comments like "There's White people in Daly City?". Daly City is such an extremely Filipino and Chinese suburb that a typical K-12 Daly City public school student body averages about only 3 percent Non Hispanic White. In my lifetime I see that percentage dipping below 1%. Asians in Daly City live in an Asian bubble due to the racial demographics being on their side and there for not many of them culturally assimilate into mainstream American society. The same can be said for San Francisco Asians as well, not many of them assimilate due to their Asian bubble where they only hang out with other Asians. I am sure Steve Sailer also notices this in his hometown of Los Angeles where most Asians also live in an Asian bubble and only socialize with other Asians, especially in the San Gabriel Valley.

  41. @SPMoore8
    Like I said earlier today, Trump's function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard.

    As long as he does that, then the other candidates will be able to at least talk about it through the open Overton Window. His candidacy also makes irrelevant the Jeb! Betatudes "Blessed are the meek who accept the authority of their Mexican wives, for they shall be president of the United States" nonsense.

    Trump will not be President, and I think he knows this very well. He's simply spending some of his money to get some important issues on the table. And I am grateful for that.

    Trump’s function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard

    Trump is giving that issue more prominence than it would normally have, but other than more prominence he’s not doing much good and he’s doing bad.

    We’ll know Trump is doing good when a) he broadens his base beyond those who already agree with him, and b) he shows even one leading amnesty fan wrong to a good part of their base.

    You’d have to work really, really hard to find even one person who’d say, “I used to believe Obama on amnesty, but Trump has opened my eyes to what’s actually going on.” And, without lots of people saying that, all Trump is doing is entertaining the Teaparty types.

    For those who want to do something, tweet @michaelcohen212 and tell him to get Trump to use my arguments. Because pointing out how Obama’s policies increase border deaths is much better than Trump’s comments. Of course, because of Dunning Kruger it’s nearly impossible to get Trump’s fans to understand that.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    For those who want to do something, tweet @michaelcohen212 and tell him to get Trump...
     
    Someone alert Mr Cohen to this thread.
    I'm not a member of Twitter or I would.
  42. Ed says:
    @SPMoore8
    Like I said earlier today, Trump's function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard.

    As long as he does that, then the other candidates will be able to at least talk about it through the open Overton Window. His candidacy also makes irrelevant the Jeb! Betatudes "Blessed are the meek who accept the authority of their Mexican wives, for they shall be president of the United States" nonsense.

    Trump will not be President, and I think he knows this very well. He's simply spending some of his money to get some important issues on the table. And I am grateful for that.

    The thing is he hasn’t really been hitting it hard. He made that Mexican comment which was just an aside and that’s about it.

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  43. Olson says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Donald Trump would have told them to pound sand and laughed. His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster. The rest of the GOP field would have wilted and then started mumbling about how much they were against breast cancer or some other groveling gesture.

    Donald Trump would have told them to pound sand and laughed. His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster. The rest of the GOP field would have wilted and then started mumbling about how much they were against breast cancer or some other groveling gesture.

    I agree Kelly is extremely good looking for her 44 years. However, she does the good Roman Catholic schtick even though she and her first husband divorced amicably and she moved on to lily pad #2. There is no way you can divorce amicably as a Roman Catholic. Either it is annulled for cause or you are the aggrieved and unwilling party to a divorce. So, while I wouldn’t call her a slut, we can drop the good girl crap. A good girl would stay married if the guy is not abusive, adulterous, or guilty of lack of consortium.

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    From Megyn's penetrating GQ interview:

    Once you [Megyn] became a reporter, you quickly got a job at Fox.
    I sent my tape to Kim Hume, and she called me in the next day. While we were talking, her husband, Brit Hume, swung by the office and said, "Saw your tape. Loved it. How soon can we get you up to New York?" And I was like, I love him.

    There were rumors about you two. He was psyched that people thought you were sleeping together, apparently.
    I think Brit knew how preposterous it was to anyone with two nickels in between their ears. The first thing he said at his retirement dinner—this big affair down in D.C. with Vice President Cheney, Fred Thompson, Brian Williams—was "I haven't been this honored since that rumor about me having an affair with Megyn Kelly went around."

    Niiiice.
    And then he said, "I remember when that rumor first came out, and the Fox PR people called me and said, 'We have to tamp this down.' And I said, 'Well, do you have to tamp it down right away?' "
     
    Now that's cleared up, it was all just a mean sexist rumor.
  44. olson says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Nothing wrong with what Trump said. Megyn Kelly is a whore of Rupert Murdoch and his oligarch friends. Her questions were a hit job designed to destroy Trump. I'm glad he fired right back.

    I just hope voters are smart enough to understand what's happening.

    I just hope voters are smart enough to understand what’s happening.

    they aren’t

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  45. Bill says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    I’ll wager that Black Lives Matter is just a minor flare-up, and that an increase in inner-city crime rates due to kinder, gentler policing (already seemingly underway) will make whites that much less sympathetic to it.

    Are whites going to boo the Black Lives Matter agitators and physically remove them from the stage when they perpetrate this kind of stunt? Because that's what is necessary. It's hard to imagine liberal whites getting to that point. It would require a real change of perspective.

    It’s harder to imagine conservative whites getting there.

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  46. Hans Olo says:

    Maybe it will give a few thousand liberals and progressives a faint inkling in the back of their heads that our glorious multicultural future might not end up as glorious as they’ve been expecting.

    Hopeless, you might say? Well, I’m an example of a formerly standard progressive who over the years has been seduced by the dark side…

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  47. Bill says:
    @Anonymous
    1) Uh, I don't look at Sanders and see "Mugwump WASP progressive" so much. He is very much in the style of Yiddish-newspaper-editor trade unionists which have a long history in both the urban N.E. and the upper Midwest (Wellstone was another). Because of the blue-collar labor activism that's still distinct from the po-mo multicult gay-wedding chic of modern apex liberalism. As recently as the 90s Democrat finances weren't dominated by a few coastal movie execs and hedge fund maestros. Actually industrial labor consciousness has been slower to die off in Seattle due to the nostalgia for aerospace jobs.

    2) OlyWa's a very odd place--more "Portlandish" than Portland itself, if that makes sense...

    You are dreaming. Trade unionism is thoroughly cultural Marxist. Look:

    http://www.aflcio.org/Press-Room/Press-Releases/Statement-by-AFL-CIO-President-Richard-L.-Trumka-on-Marriage-Equality

    Richard Trumka, currently president of the AFL-CIO, used to be president of the UMWA. The M stands for mineworkers.

    Sanders might be a throwback: he’s old. But the thing he is a throwback to is gone.

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    Um yeah, you repeated what I said: Sanders is the NYC cousin to the obsolete Prairie Internationale activists, many of them Jewish/Communist, who "reformed the system" back in the day with the Norwegian farmer-socialist parties, also dead or converted to instruments of public employee unions. The modern Diversity Left doesn't need coal miners and truck drivers to win so who gives a crap about your Trumka quote? He's a legacy middle-manager playing ball to avoid being sent home.
  48. casey says:
    @SPMoore8
    Nothing wrong with what Trump said. Megyn Kelly is a whore of Rupert Murdoch and his oligarch friends. Her questions were a hit job designed to destroy Trump.

    There was a perfectly relevant reason for Kelly to ask the question, and it was contained in her question, which is, if Trump has a history of sound bites calling women all kinds of names, how will that play in an election with Hillary? (We're talking about winning an election, which is going to require some women's votes.) And it's not a question of "political correctness" either: the kinds of words Trump uses for women he doesn't like are simply vulgar, crude, and ungentlemanly for a man to ever use about any woman in public. It amazes me that anyone cannot see that.

    Sure, as a guy, I have said similar things about women, and other guys, and I know that making fun of a person's looks or gender is a common theme on most bulletin boards. But we aren't running for President either.

    Not only that, but it is evident that Trump got a wild hair up his, uh, *Nose* at the question, such that, after answering it, he then started to act like Kelly was attacking him, after being so nice to her. That points to an inability to tolerate legitimate criticism of any kind, to take it personally, and to lash out at the person making it. Again, it was a question that needed to be asked and answered. This was Trump's opportunity to get control of the issue. He failed, and then he compounded it with his other comments.

    Here's the question, and response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Vnzf3Yhmo

    “question, such that, after answering it, he then started to act like Kelly was attacking him, after being so nice to her. That points to an inability to tolerate legitimate criticism of any kind, to take it personally, and to lash out at the person making it. ”

    Thank you, this is the key thing that jumped out at me, and actually did seem sexist – would he have gotten so weirdly personal in response to a man and used such a phrase “I’ve been so nice to you”? He was nice to her so now he pouts that she asks him tough questions in a debate? It’s almost absurd as a response. And I agree, it was a valid question.

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  49. Whiskey says: • Website

    Bernie Sanders lacks the muscle Hillary! employs to keep disruptive people away. That being said, Hillary! will almost certainly not be the nominee. If Obama was a normal Dem President he would have made a deal with her, no way an FBI investigation into criminal misuse of her private email server to view classified documents and store them would proceed otherwise. So obviously Obama has an interest to dump Hillary! and insert at the last minute his own choice.

    That fits: lawsuits to get his mentor disqualified; lawsuits to get Jeri Ryan’s divorce records unsealed, etc. Look at how he bought his house. Its SOP with Obama.

    As for Trump, his smackdown of Kelly was something that generated tingles nationwide. Women don’t want a mealy-mouthed pol, they want the rock star. Obama gave that to women, by media adulation. Trump gives it by being famous for thirty years as a rich guy asshole. He’s Christian Grey as a grandpa. Don’t think women are not thinking that.

    And Bill Clinton outsmarted himself. This is not 1992, or 1996. Trump could easily as the only candidate for White America Preservation win about 75% of the White Vote.

    Does anyone think that Seattle and Portlandia really really really wants to live an eternal, 24/7 Black Lives Matter Hate Whitey a-thon? After all houses in Detroit and Baltimore are cheap if they really, really liked Blacks that much.

    A three way match between El Jebe, Trump, and say, Cory Booker? Or maybe Michelle Obama?

    Hello President Trump!

    Heck, you’re asking the wrong question. Not, how much damage will Trump do to elect Hillary!, but will Hillary! run as a THIRD PARTY candidate once Obama gets his Black successor/cats paw. [My money is on Michelle to run, ala Christina Kirchner in Argentina who we increasingly resemble.]

    Imagine: Trump as the Preserve Traditional White America candidate; Hillary! as the Angry Lesbian Candidate, Bernie Sanders as the Candidate from Portlandia, and Michelle Obama as the Keepin It Real Candidate.

    This can happen. Arnold Schwarzenegger WAS our two term governor. Gary Coleman and Mary Carey, a Mariah Carey porn-alike porn star, had a chance.

    Trump is a blowhard jerk. This is news? His wealth is also in easily confiscated by La Raza type nationalist real estate, and his insights on China and job stripping are neither new nor lacking in analysis. I recall being impressed by him on the radio years ago talking about outsourcing jobs to China something he had no reason to care about other than economic nationalism as a land owner. The natural defenders of the nation and liberty is a landed elite, who have their own wealth on the line from tyrants or the mob, as well as foreign enemies.

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  50. Mr. Anon says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster.

    I was fine with that but some of Trump's over-the-top cracks about Kelly since then suggest he lacks sufficient self-discipline to handle higher office.

    At the same time, it was contemptible of the Red Staters to disinvite him from their meeting. Obviously, they don't trust their followers to make the proper evaluation of him, and that just proves Trump's point about the suffocating nature of political correctness.

    So far I've been enjoying Trump but he needs to start displaying some gravitas, as Derbyshire suggested on this week's Radio Derb.

    America is a circus. There is no reason not to elect a clown President.

    Any Republican who tells Fox News to pound sand is already a better class of Republican.

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  51. Mr. Anon says:
    @Kyle McKenna
    An increasing number of people are dying to jump ship--they can perceive how corrupt and sclerotic today's Republican Party is--but they'd rather jump into another ship instead of into the deep, dark ocean.

    Trouble is, as everyone here knows well, the existing two-party state will do everything in its power (which is a lot) to prevent the viability of a third party.

    “Kyle McKenna says:

    An increasing number of people are dying to jump ship–they can perceive how corrupt and sclerotic today’s Republican Party is–but they’d rather jump into another ship instead of into the deep, dark ocean.

    Trouble is, as everyone here knows well, the existing two-party state will do everything in its power (which is a lot) to prevent the viability of a third party.”

    A third party will never be created by a presidential election. A third party must be created in Congress. It can be too.

    If a group of sitting Republican Congressman were to openly secede from the Republican party and declare themselves a new party, they could form a third party. They might even get a few Democrats to join them (but only very few). They would have to caucus with the Republicans, but they could make demands of the Republican leadership, and they might be more effective at making demands than they are now. An American Constitutionalist Party (or whatever) chairman Jeff Sessions, with fifty or a hundred Congressman behind him would likely have more bargaining leverage with the Senate leadership than he has now.

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    A third party must be created in Congress. It can be too.

    If a group of sitting Republican Congressman were to openly secede from the Republican party and declare themselves a new party, they could form a third party.
     
    I've long thought blacks should do the same thing-- form a House Party for the districts they dominate. The CBC does little for them on most issues, and positively betrays them on a few more.
  52. Chuck says:

    Sanders is only running to make Hilary’s coronation seem more democratic.

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  53. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bill
    You are dreaming. Trade unionism is thoroughly cultural Marxist. Look:

    http://www.aflcio.org/Press-Room/Press-Releases/Statement-by-AFL-CIO-President-Richard-L.-Trumka-on-Marriage-Equality

    Richard Trumka, currently president of the AFL-CIO, used to be president of the UMWA. The M stands for mineworkers.

    Sanders might be a throwback: he's old. But the thing he is a throwback to is gone.

    Um yeah, you repeated what I said: Sanders is the NYC cousin to the obsolete Prairie Internationale activists, many of them Jewish/Communist, who “reformed the system” back in the day with the Norwegian farmer-socialist parties, also dead or converted to instruments of public employee unions. The modern Diversity Left doesn’t need coal miners and truck drivers to win so who gives a crap about your Trumka quote? He’s a legacy middle-manager playing ball to avoid being sent home.

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  54. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @SPMoore8
    I have only two questions: What did they do for four and half minutes of silence, and second, if they are sufficiently brain dead to make that gesture, why didn't they demand the entire four and half hours?

    This is Occupy Wall Street for the Democratic Party.

    What did they do for four and half minutes of silence,

    Put on an impromptu (and perhaps inadvertent) performance of John Cage’s 4’33″.

    People always told me he was ahead of his time, and I guess I was wrong for doubting them.

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    Put on an impromptu (and perhaps inadvertent) performance of John Cage’s 4’33″.
     
    Brilliant. I'm officially jealous that this didn't occur to me first. Dem BLM folks is mo' cultured than I gave them credit fo'..
  55. @Mr. Anon
    "Kyle McKenna says:

    An increasing number of people are dying to jump ship–they can perceive how corrupt and sclerotic today’s Republican Party is–but they’d rather jump into another ship instead of into the deep, dark ocean.

    Trouble is, as everyone here knows well, the existing two-party state will do everything in its power (which is a lot) to prevent the viability of a third party."

    A third party will never be created by a presidential election. A third party must be created in Congress. It can be too.

    If a group of sitting Republican Congressman were to openly secede from the Republican party and declare themselves a new party, they could form a third party. They might even get a few Democrats to join them (but only very few). They would have to caucus with the Republicans, but they could make demands of the Republican leadership, and they might be more effective at making demands than they are now. An American Constitutionalist Party (or whatever) chairman Jeff Sessions, with fifty or a hundred Congressman behind him would likely have more bargaining leverage with the Senate leadership than he has now.

    A third party must be created in Congress. It can be too.

    If a group of sitting Republican Congressman were to openly secede from the Republican party and declare themselves a new party, they could form a third party.

    I’ve long thought blacks should do the same thing– form a House Party for the districts they dominate. The CBC does little for them on most issues, and positively betrays them on a few more.

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  56. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin
    I’ll wager that Black Lives Matter is just a minor flare-up, and that an increase in inner-city crime rates due to kinder, gentler policing (already seemingly underway) will make whites that much less sympathetic to it.

    Are whites going to boo the Black Lives Matter agitators and physically remove them from the stage when they perpetrate this kind of stunt? Because that's what is necessary. It's hard to imagine liberal whites getting to that point. It would require a real change of perspective.

    Or just hiring black security.

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  57. EuroYankee says: • Website

    It was embarrassing to watch these narcissistic, bullying and above all shortsighted misandrists as they again disrespected and attacked our one best hope for economic, civil AND racial justice in America.

    Funny though how the folks at Black Lives Matter always give Hillary Clinton a pass: For example, Martin O’Malley said “all lives matter” and was promptly snd roundly crucified – yet Hillary said the same thing and-? Crickets.

    This must be because George Soros, who is funding BLM, is a Hillary supporter. Yet poor Bernie – interrupted 2x in a row now when he has the best record on civil rights of anyone! … I guess this horrible case of political sabotage is just one more indication that the Clintonistas are Feeling the Bern!! #BLMHRCWTF

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  58. @anony-mouse
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix

    Thanks for the link. I knew there was a mostly black person who once lived in Seattle!

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  59. @SPMoore8
    Now I am reminded of Nelson Rockefeller in 1964: he was divorced, which was a no no. But he was still able to address the convention.

    Reagan was divorced, so we crossed that hurdle a long time ago.

    I have nothing against Trump, but if he wants to maintain a position in this election process, he needs to do some things: 1) Watch his mouth. 2) Not take criticism personally. 3) Be nice to women. Otherwise he doesn't have a chance. Trust me on this.

    If he plays the game properly, he will be a candidate well into 2016, long enough to force the other candidates for president (and everyone running for congress) to address the issues Trump is harping on, including immigration. OTOH, if he doesn't get the congressional and senate slates to make immigration an issue in 2016, then even if was elected he would be powerless to stop the current arrangement.

    It seems clear that the other candidates support various types of immigration because they know it will enrich their supporters and also enrich our economy in a numbers sense, even if it puts more and more native born Americans out of work and dependent on the government. We need a way out of this self destructive cycle, and that means we need a candidate to galvanize the electorate. That's Trump. But if it doesn't become a platform for hundreds of political seats in November, 2016, it's just a waste of time.

    I have nothing against Trump, but if he wants to maintain a position in this election process, he needs to do some things: 1) Watch his mouth. 2) Not take criticism personally. 3) Be nice to women.

    Three things, to most appearances, that he has never done. I’d almost argue #3 insofar as “Be nice to women” lately involves some farcical contortions, and I don’t know his full history in that regard anyway.

    However, he’s not really even able to give the appearance of doing so, and oddly enough, that accounts for some significant part of his appeal: WYSIWYG. Unlike nearly every other politician.

    It’s too bad Trump can’t ‘behave’ just a bit better. He’d be so much more powerful, effective, and successful if he did. But, true to form, he doesn’t even keep anyone around him who could clue him in to this basic fact.

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  60. @24AheadDotCom
    Trump’s function is to hit the immigration issue, and hit it hard

    Trump is giving that issue more prominence than it would normally have, but other than more prominence he's not doing much good and he's doing bad.

    We'll know Trump is doing good when a) he broadens his base beyond those who already agree with him, and b) he shows even one leading amnesty fan wrong to a good part of their base.

    You'd have to work really, really hard to find even one person who'd say, "I used to believe Obama on amnesty, but Trump has opened my eyes to what's actually going on." And, without lots of people saying that, all Trump is doing is entertaining the Teaparty types.

    For those who want to do something, tweet @michaelcohen212 and tell him to get Trump to use my arguments. Because pointing out how Obama's policies increase border deaths is much better than Trump's comments. Of course, because of Dunning Kruger it's nearly impossible to get Trump's fans to understand that.

    For those who want to do something, tweet @michaelcohen212 and tell him to get Trump…

    Someone alert Mr Cohen to this thread.
    I’m not a member of Twitter or I would.

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  61. @Anonymous
    What did they do for four and half minutes of silence,

    Put on an impromptu (and perhaps inadvertent) performance of John Cage's 4'33".

    People always told me he was ahead of his time, and I guess I was wrong for doubting them.

    Put on an impromptu (and perhaps inadvertent) performance of John Cage’s 4’33″.

    Brilliant. I’m officially jealous that this didn’t occur to me first. Dem BLM folks is mo’ cultured than I gave them credit fo’..

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  62. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says: • Website
    @Olson

    Donald Trump would have told them to pound sand and laughed. His refusal to back down to Megan Kelly took more balls than 99% of men can muster. The rest of the GOP field would have wilted and then started mumbling about how much they were against breast cancer or some other groveling gesture.
     
    I agree Kelly is extremely good looking for her 44 years. However, she does the good Roman Catholic schtick even though she and her first husband divorced amicably and she moved on to lily pad #2. There is no way you can divorce amicably as a Roman Catholic. Either it is annulled for cause or you are the aggrieved and unwilling party to a divorce. So, while I wouldn't call her a slut, we can drop the good girl crap. A good girl would stay married if the guy is not abusive, adulterous, or guilty of lack of consortium.

    From Megyn’s penetrating GQ interview:

    Once you [Megyn] became a reporter, you quickly got a job at Fox.
    I sent my tape to Kim Hume, and she called me in the next day. While we were talking, her husband, Brit Hume, swung by the office and said, “Saw your tape. Loved it. How soon can we get you up to New York?” And I was like, I love him.

    There were rumors about you two. He was psyched that people thought you were sleeping together, apparently.
    I think Brit knew how preposterous it was to anyone with two nickels in between their ears. The first thing he said at his retirement dinner—this big affair down in D.C. with Vice President Cheney, Fred Thompson, Brian Williams—was “I haven’t been this honored since that rumor about me having an affair with Megyn Kelly went around.”

    Niiiice.
    And then he said, “I remember when that rumor first came out, and the Fox PR people called me and said, ‘We have to tamp this down.’ And I said, ‘Well, do you have to tamp it down right away?’ “

    Now that’s cleared up, it was all just a mean sexist rumor.

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  63. @Harry Baldwin
    From the article it sounded like they got a few boos, and knowing SWPLs, I'm sure others around the booers told them to be quiet. I mean loud, sustained booing from the majority of the crowd that drowns out the Black Lives Matter agitators.

    When I listened to the entire videos, I heard a lot of booing in some parts and genuine consternation. Not much as I would’ve liked, but more than you’d expect from liberals.

    Good for them.

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  64. @anony-mouse
    Sorry but he flunked this test. If Bernie Sanders can't handle nobody American megalomaniacs then how will he handle foreign ones?

    And most leaders of most countries are megalomaniacs.

    Of course at his age he just may be tired. Its time for your nap Mr. Sanders, you've had enough excitement for one day.

    Or maybe, coming from Vermont, he’s not used to dealing with crude protesters who act like unruly children. He’s used to calm and reasonable debate.

    Unfortunately, Sanders is getting an education on the realities of big city politics.

    Next time he does an event like this, he should get some friendly advice on crowd management from one of the Mayor Daley type of old school Democrats.

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  65. @Kyle McKenna
    You haven't lived until your restaurant meal has been interrupted by a crew of these self-centered attention whores, marching around the dining room, banging on pots and plates. "It's all about us," they wail. "Black Black Blackety Black!" they insist.

    Any place they are permitted to go, they will practice their 'performance art'. As hinted above, one rational response is to completely cease law-enforcement activities in black 'hoods, since it grates so severely on dey style. I like where this is headed.

    One response would be for whites to start self-policing their neighborhoods, like they used to (at least in blue collar urban areas) back in the 80s. No need for a police state when outsiders are intimidated by local neighborhood tough guys.

    Of course, some of those tough guys run wild too, so you got that problem.

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  66. Jefferson says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    It's a shame that the Republican party will continue to be viable. It's mainly a party of oligarchs, war profiteers, and Israeli firsters. If whites were sensible, they'd jump ship.

    “It’s a shame that the Republican party will continue to be viable. It’s mainly a party of oligarchs, war profiteers, and Israeli firsters. If whites were sensible, they’d jump ship.”

    Where should Whites jump ship to? The Black Party a.k.a The Democratic Party? The Democratic Party has become the McDonald’s of political parties. Tah tah tah tah, the DNC is luvin it.

    In Southern states like South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana for example The Democratic Party has become as Black as a Tyler Perry movie with the occasional token Whitey sprinkled in. Even Tyler Perry occasionally cast some token Whites in his films.

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  67. Jefferson says:
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    There's black people in Seattle?

    “There’s black people in Seattle?”

    Here in The Bay Area, some locals make comments like “There’s White people in Daly City?”. Daly City is such an extremely Filipino and Chinese suburb that a typical K-12 Daly City public school student body averages about only 3 percent Non Hispanic White. In my lifetime I see that percentage dipping below 1%. Asians in Daly City live in an Asian bubble due to the racial demographics being on their side and there for not many of them culturally assimilate into mainstream American society. The same can be said for San Francisco Asians as well, not many of them assimilate due to their Asian bubble where they only hang out with other Asians. I am sure Steve Sailer also notices this in his hometown of Los Angeles where most Asians also live in an Asian bubble and only socialize with other Asians, especially in the San Gabriel Valley.

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  68. Bill says:
    @Anonymous
    Um yeah, you repeated what I said: Sanders is the NYC cousin to the obsolete Prairie Internationale activists, many of them Jewish/Communist, who "reformed the system" back in the day with the Norwegian farmer-socialist parties, also dead or converted to instruments of public employee unions. The modern Diversity Left doesn't need coal miners and truck drivers to win so who gives a crap about your Trumka quote? He's a legacy middle-manager playing ball to avoid being sent home.

    “still distinct”

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