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Here’s one for Whiskey, from the New York Times:

Jocks Rule, Nerds Drool

By Jennifer Wright
Ms. Wright is an editor and a writer.

Aug. 11, 2018

I used to love nerds. Or at least, I loved the idea of nerds. In the ’80s, ’90s and 2000s, there was an endless stream of movies and media, from “Revenge of the Nerds” to “Spider-Man” to “Beauty and the Geek,” dedicated to telling women that they’d be better off with nerds than with the arrogant jocks who would grunt cavemanlike in response to anything women said, before kicking sand in a nerd’s face.

Nerds were smart and decent underdogs who just needed a good-hearted lady to notice them and maybe get them a pair of contact lenses.

Boy, that stereotype does not hold up in 2018.

These days, stories of misogyny in nerd-world — and allegations of sexual harassment in tech companies — have become incredibly common.

… I wasn’t that surprised, then, when Chloe Dykstra, the ex-girlfriend of the Nerdist founder Chris Hardwick (whom Rolling Stone has called “King of the Nerds”), wrote in an essay that her boyfriend of three years had emotionally and sexually abused her.

… Elon Musk …

So what about their old schoolyard nemeses, those heartless bullies — the jocks?

Well, they suddenly seem pretty great by comparison.

On July 30, the N.B.A. star LeBron James opened a school in Akron, Ohio …

Last week, another N.B.A. player, Stephen Curry, raised over $21,000 through a live-streamed event to help benefit the family of Nia Wilson, a young woman who was stabbed to death at a train station in Oakland, Calif.

In June, the former N.F.L. player-turned-actor Terry Crews gave Senate testimony in which he spoke about having been sexually assaulted and warned against the “cult of toxic masculinity” that led him to believe he was more important than women.

And of course there’s Colin Kaepernick, the former 49ers quarterback, who drew national attention to police brutality by kneeling during the national anthem. …

None of these guys sound like the heartless, monosyllabic brutes pop culture made jocks out to be. They sound like the kind of men who would patiently listen to you and commiserate after a nerd sexually harasses you.

Here’s Terry Crews patiently commiserating with you about the State of the Union.

To be sure, some nerds are nice, and some jocks are still jerks — like Josh Hader of the Milwaukee Brewers and Sean Newcomb of the Atlanta Braves, who recently apologized for old racist and homophobic tweets. But they’ve been overshadowed by people like Mr. James. Maybe it’s time to readjust stereotypes accordingly.

These jocks are deeply decent men standing up to bullies in power. Just like nerds in old movies used to do.

Jennifer Wright is Bazaar.com’s political editor at large and the author of “Get Well Soon: History’s Worst Plagues and the Heroes Who Fought Them” and “It Ended Badly: 13 of the Worst Breakups In History.”

Let’s see, Ms. Wright names four white guys, two nerds, two jocks, and they are all Bad.

She names four black jocks and they are all Good. In fact, they all “sound like the kind of men who would patiently listen to you and commiserate after a nerd sexually harasses you,” Ms. Wright dreamily muses while practicing signing her future name “Ms. Jennifer Wright-James” or maybe “Mrs. Stephen Curry.”

Her husband, Mr. Kibblesmith from Oak Park, IL, has nothing to worry about, of course.

 
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  1. Whiskey says: • Website

    You can observe a lot just by watching …

    There is nothing a woman will not forgive in a dominant man and nothing she will in a non-dominant one.

  2. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Just read the headlines of this whornalist. Stuff might as well be generated by a computer.

    https://www.harpersbazaar.com/author/17348/jennifer-wright/

    And Whiskesque pic on this page:

    https://www.harpersbazaar.com/about/a174/contact-us/

  3. Her new husband isn’t exactly LeBron.

  4. I still never understood why serial killers get fan mail from groupies.

    Any ideas?

    Does Whiskey have a point?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @Thomm
    , @Rosie
    , @notanon
    , @Bill
  5. @Whiskey

    Hey, Whiskey. Are you Scots-Irish?

    • LOL: Bill
  6. Terry Crews admitted publicly on air several times that he’s a porn addict. You can find it up on YouTube.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @Anonymous
  7. Anonymous[441] • Disclaimer says:

    Nerds were smart and decent underdogs who just needed a good-hearted lady to notice them and maybe get them a pair of contact lenses.

    Here is her NYT wedding announcement, with photograph. I had to triple check that this is in fact the same person, that here are not two Jennifer Wrights working in female journalism.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/fashion/weddings/jennifer-wright-daniel-kibblesmith.html

    Look at the photo of Mr. Jennifer Wright and then re-read Steve’s post. Kudos to Whiskey.

  8. Lagertha says:

    Whiskey has always been correct. I love him, even when he hates that he is loved.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  9. El Dato says:

    Isn’t that the girl playing some vague role in “Catch”?

  10. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Wow. She’s like a parody, but almost beyond. Her journalism has an extremely narrow focus.

    Her Mom a retired VP at ExxonMobil… Dad vice chairman BMO Capital Markets… Husband a writer for Colbert!….Married by Christopher Shelley, a minister of the ‘Universal Brotherhood Movement’..LOL

    This girl sound like a dream!

  11. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:

    This reminds me of something I was just reading in David Plotz’s book the Genius Factory, a history of the Repository for Germinal Choice (aka the “Nobel Prize sperm bank.”) The Repository actually soon switched off Nobel laureate sperm, for many reasons, but in part because women kept complaining that the available donors tended to be…well, short.

    You can invent the transistor, but women still prefer the 6’3” guy.

  12. Lagertha says:

    This post is painful for me for the Nerds part.

    I don’t want to see a world were HYPS intelligent people are in charge of Water, Air, Food, Drink - the Big 4 However, as the Diversicrats slice up for the deservids, I hope there are enough rinds and edges left for the masses…seeds – even if they are living in the wrong dirt for planting citrus.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
  13. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey

    She could have jungle fever.

    Jews = Nerds.

    Blacks = Jocks.

    Jews got money but blacks got muscle. I guess this is where cuck behavior comes in. Some women will marry the nerd and get the money but then make her hubby cuck so that she can have the jock and the muscle(and meat).

    With lots of money, Jewish nerds became less pleasant. They got too arrogant and pushy with their power.

    But black jocks are top rapists in college. Also, their ‘good work’ is the sort of stuff that rich folks do. Rock stars, actors, and etc all have their pet projects. All just for publicity or ego.

    If Kapernick really wants to help blacks, he should become enter police academy and be a GOOD cop in a black neighborhood. See how long it takes before he comes to hate the thugs in the hood.

    PS. Most people are neither jocks nor nerds. And they are the ones who make the world work. People fighting forest fires, people driving trucks, people building things. That’s humanity.

    But it seems these Proggies love categories. Since ‘racism’ is evil, it’s personalitism drawn from high school.

  14. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:

    Rambling speculation:

    This post reminds me of the Scott Aaronson comment heard around the world that sparked a battle between nerds and feminists. And I was just thinking, it seems to me that nerds are actually the most feminist men in practice, and probably in belief as well. Nerds stereotypically lack physical strength, aggression, social awareness and friends, which makes it harder for them to dominate and exploit women, if they even wanted to do so. Like how in I am Charlotte Simmons Hoyt van Thorpe skillfully deflowers Charlotte with little investment and tosses her aside, but poor Adam Gellin is left out in the cold despite his repeated sacrifices. A lot of nerds are also pretty unambitious, content to focus on whatever small niche of abstract thinking or entertainment fascinates them the most.

    So when it comes to making space in society for the women who will replace men at masculine roles Real Soon Now according to feminists, nerds would seem to be doing a great job. But, in addition to feminists hating nerds for tending to be better than women are at certain things, women as a whole tend to heavily penalize the traits that would make a feminist man in a mate, traits that nerds actually have.

    Strength, aggression, practical competence, social status, worldliness (i.e. everything that nerds lack), et cetera, while hallmarks of so-called toxic masculinity, are all very attractive to women. Hence the extreme popularity with women of romance novels featuring rogue dukes/outlaw cowboys/ruthless billionaires.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  15. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous

    He must have some kind of repertoire with his penis…otherwise, fougetaboudid.

  16. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonym

    Daniel KIBBLESMITH?

    ycmtsu

    She married a smart dork, but maybe he’s one of them ‘intellectual’ cucky-wucks.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/cuckolding-the-sex-fetish-for-intellectuals

  17. M_Young says:

    For effs sake, they look exactly like that couple in Mad Men..the not the Drapers couple.

    • Replies: @njguy73
  18. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer

    He appears to be 5 foot 5 and 135lb, with a Matt Yglesias face and hairline.

    He will carry her purse on a pussyhat march though, and not object when she writes in the NYT that she is just sure, after much thought, LeBron would have excellent post-coital manners.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BeLa10mlgfE/?hl=en

    • LOL: bomag, Abe
  19. @Steve Sailer

    She probably wants to get railed by muscular black guys.

    Her husband looks like a “cuck.” Poor guy. He’s the sort of man who can be expected to fail a paternity test.

  20. Svigor says:

    It’s Jewish psyops. It’s been pouring out of (((Big Media))) for decades. What’s so special about this one – they paid a hot shiksa to write it?

    • LOL: IHTG
  21. - Between Sarah Jeong, Susan Fowler, and the willowy I Am Jennifer Wright, it is obvious that the NYT is trying to pick up female eyeballs, ala the Skim, Jezebel, Pinterest or Instagram. Willing to bet they hired a vacant blue-button-down from McKinsey or Bain, who showed them a pie chart indicating the importance of online female viewership. Expect to see many more of these goofy articles.
    – Chris Hardwick is not relevant in tech. Always hilarious to see dumb NYC media rant about non-entities in tech, while simultaneously Me Too’ing their own executives.
    – Her husband likely cheated on her, perhaps with an Asian gal, thus completing the Jeongian Knot of Envy.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    , @Lurker
  22. Thomm says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I still never understood why serial killers get fan mail from groupies.

    Jesus Christ, this is extremely well-understood by anyone who reads Heartiste or other anti-feminist bloggers.

    If this is a mystery to you, you must quit everything else and spend the next 30 days reading Heartiste’s anti-feminism archives.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  23. Jocks Rule, Nerds Drool

    Article looks to be part of a long-running cucky in-joke between her and her goofy bugman partner foisted on the rest of us. A 2016 tweet to her now husband:

    Ms. Wright photographs well but comes off as a dorky dingbat when she speaks—weak chin, gawky posture, and wack sing-songy cadence that randomly dips low. Here she is discussing her 2015 book It Ended Badly: 13 of the Worst Breakups in History with a dude (?) with contrasting Boaty McBoatface jaw:

  24. So evil white men shouldn’t invest in space?

    Blacks need mo money fo dem programs until the sun becomes a red giant?

  25. Yes Steve, this woman from an extremely narrow socioeconomic slice of America totally validates Whiskey’s monomania.

    And you expect people to put money in your cup. Whew boy.

    That being said good grief that husband is gonna be real proud of his wife’s boyfriend getting his GED.

  26. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  27. Anonym says:
    @Anonymous

    I dunno, maybe you can discern the relative dating market value by wedding photo expressions? Is it possible?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj0k9BvAjYM/?utm_source=ig_web_share

  28. Christopher Shelley, who conducted the wedding, sounds like a piece of work.

    From his websiteL; “I am a Certified Life-Cycle Celebrant. A Celebrant serves as writer, editor, director, show runner and host, making your ceremony meaningful and enjoyable. The Celebrant in me makes it meaningful. The Officiant in me makes it legal. The performer in me makes it fun. I am as dignified as everyone hopes I will be, but I include a LOT more humor than anyone expects to hear in a ceremony, much to the guests’ relief.

    It is a great pleasure to personalize wedding ceremonies for couples who are genuinely in love. This is your story. I will help show what you want the world to see, make clear what you want the world to understand, illuminate shy facts and highlight what everybody already knows. Your ceremony can be traditional or nontraditional, opposite-sex or same-sex, single-faith, multi-faith, omni-faith, interfaith, or a faith that defies definition. “

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  29. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, you find that kind of article in the Cosmopolitain.

    I once read it for … research.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  30. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    He is a son of Cherie L. Kibble-Smith and Brian G. Kibble-Smith of Oak Park, Ill.

    I’ve never heard of anyone fusing their hyphenated surname before. I wonder if “Kibble-Smith” was his father’s surname going back several generations, or if his father’s surname was “Kibble” and his mother’s was “Smith”, and they hyphenated and shared their surnames after marriage, which would be weird enough. Fusing the names would just be even weirder. Or maybe he just fused the hyphenated name because it’s simpler for professional reasons.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Forbes
  31. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    Here is one of Mr. Kibblesmith’s books:

    https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062748744/santas-husband/

    Offering a fresh twist on Kris Kringle, a clever yet heartfelt book that tells the story of a black Santa, his white husband, and their life in the North Pole.

    Everyone knows that Santa Claus is jolly, but in Santa’s Husband, this cherished symbol of the holiday season is also black and gay, and married to an equally cheery man.

    In this witty and sweet illustrated Christmas tale, humor writer Daniel Kibblesmith introduces us to Mr. and Mr. Claus, and gives us a glimpse of their lives together. We see the Clauses sitting by the fire at their cozy North Pole home, vacationing at the beach, having an occasional disagreement, celebrating their wedding day, and comforting each other when some loudmouth people on television angrily dispute Santa’s appearance and lifestyle.

    In the weeks before Christmas, Santa’s husband helps with all the pre-Christmas work, from double-checking lists, to feeding the reindeer (organic gluten-free grains, of course), to negotiating labor disputes with the restive workshop elves. At the height of toy-making season, he even fills in for his busy hubby at the mall to ensure every child can meet the Big Guy in the red suit, and give him their wish list.

    As this charming book reminds us, Santa Claus can come in all shapes and colors and sizes—just like the children and families he visits all over the world each Christmas eve.

    Featuring beautiful watercolor pictures drawn by artist AP Quach, Santa’s Husband is a delightful gift for readers of all ages.

  32. @Anonymous

    Kibblesmith is a Middle English word for an artisanal dogfood craftsman.

  33. Anonym says:
    @Anonymous

    Her life is like one big extended s*** test that all males to date have judged the risk/reward as just not worth it to pass. So she has kept on upping the ante hoping for a bite but so far, nothing.

    It’s kind of a shame. Exceptionally pretty face, she’s got that Jennifer Conelly maybe Jewish look to her that I can appreciate… but too lacking in curves to suit me. Which is why there are only a couple body shots, the rest are above the bust to accentuate the face.

    At least she hasn’t got foobs, good for her.

    • Replies: @Escher
    , @njguy73
  34. Also all the good deeds are exclusively aimed at other black people and/or against racism.

  35. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    Her husband struck it rich as one of the early Groupon employees:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/01/clown-prince-of-groupon-moves-on.html

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  36. @Lot

    Already used up my LOL, dammit. So LOL.

  37. “His next book, “Santa’s Husband,” is to be published in October [2017].” Cheeky Columbia College… Honky Husband Yule Log Black Santa… Chicago, “Thanks Obama!” Transcripts! Incoming….

  38. @Anonymous

    Sheffield’s Lord Mayor has “banned” US President Donald Trump from visiting the city.

  39. jim jones says:
    @The Gentlemanly Ray Rice

    I expect the NYT to follow the lead of the Daily Mail and target female readers. Men get their news from the Alternative media now:

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
  40. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Their relationship seems a little prickly. Check out the below Instagram post from her. Also, the last comment is from someone who says her husband looks more like a nerd than a jock. How awkward. I’m guessing that will only serve to strengthen their marriage. Maybe not?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BlHUSaug_5M/?hl=en&taken-by=jenashleywright

  41. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:

    there was an endless stream of movies and media, from “Revenge of the Nerds” to “Spider-Man” to “Beauty and the Geek,” dedicated to telling women that they’d be better off with nerds than with the arrogant jocks who would grunt cavemanlike

    It’s so obvious in retrospect that what was going on then was Jews in Hollywood attempting to raise the status of physically challenged Jewish males relative to the more athletic and attractive Gentile White men. Culture of Jealousy-Driven Critique.

  42. Looking at the wedding announcement in the Times, it appears that Kibblesmith is both male and female. At least, Kibblesmith’s pronouns are both “he” and “her” in the penultimate paragraph. Either that, or his father Mr Kibble-Smith is female. It’s hard to tell, what with the Times having dispensed with copy editors and all.

    • Replies: @Hail
  43. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey

    She doesn’t seem to be phantasizing about dominant men. To wit:

    They sound like the kind of men who would patiently listen to you and commiserate after a nerd sexually harasses you.

  44. Jack D says:

    Boy, we really are living in the end times. This is what passes for “journalism” in today’s NY Times? It is a perfect storm – a lightweight confection of female fantasy better suited for Cosmo with a twist of modern racial animus. Not only does Jennifer prefer jock gentlemen to nerdy sexual harassers (at least in her fantasy life although if I were Mr. Jennifer I’d hire a detective to follow her at “lunchtime”) but she prefers black jocks.

    We are not supposed to do Gedankenexperiments where the races are reversed, because reasons, but these are very revealing as to the thinly disguised racial animus we are seeing. It used to be good enough just to portray blacks only in a wonderfully positive way whenever possible (to counterbalance all the police blotter stories with murderous blacks) but now it is necessary not only to portray blacks positively but also to portray white men negatively – Hey, white men, why can’t you be like those wonderful black athletes who treat women with respec’? We all know that black athletes are famous for treating women respecfully.

    Darymple said that one of the functions of totalitarian propaganda is humiliation – you print obvious baldfaced lies in order to rub it in to the powerless that there is nothing that they can do about it – that they are so powerless that they just have to grin and bear it because if they try to speak out against the lies you will crush them like a bug.

  45. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Niccolo Salo

    Wow, that’s quite an admission, Niccolo. I bet he knocks back a beer once in a while too, in between his bottles of Brawndo.

    • LOL: AndrewR
  46. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:

    Last week, another N.B.A. player, Stephen Curry, raised over $21,000 through a live-streamed event to help benefit the family of Nia Wilson…

    Why didn’t he just write her a $25,000 check from his own plentiful funds.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Almost Missouri
    , @Abe
  47. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    The thing is, Wright is a nerd. Real men who do actual man stuff aren’t interested in nerd girls. Surfer dudes want surfer chicks not beach bunnies. Peg-scraping bikers don’t want a pillion warmer, they want a biker girl who thinks the Crest or Ortega is an easy 100mph road and proves it riding her Yamaha YZF-R1. Off-trail mountain backpackers want a girl who can heft an external frame pack loaded with gear and grub and boulder hop upslope for miles. Scuba divers want…; well, you get the picture. And it’s a big plus if besides doing those things, she can dance the hoochie-coochie and fill out a bikini.
    A nerd girl might get a throwaway porking from one of those guys, but that’s about all she can ever hope for, and the next time she sees the guy and gives him a big “we’re an item” smile, he’ll respond by looking at her vacantly and asking, “Do I know you?”

  48. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous [276]:

    SANTA’S HUSBAND: truly barfable!

  49. JMcG says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Looks to me like her helmet is on backwards.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  50. DH13 says:
    @Jack D

    Seconded.
    The whole thing is for humiliation purposes.
    Probably she is also a real freak (cucking and all), not just pretending.

  51. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous

    They refer to his mother as “her mother.” An appropriate typo…

    • LOL: bomag
  52. @El Dato

    You would have been better off reading Penthouse Letters for research.

  53. @Steve Sailer

    So, the hyphenated name of tradesfamilies in this line of business would be Kibblesmith-Bitmeister?

  54. @Svigor

    Produced and Directed by Stanley Kramer.

    That’s when this first started.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    , @Bragadocious
  55. Neoconned says:
    @Whiskey

    Another nasty white girl with a clean crotch gets jungle fever….

    Anyway this is anecdotal but down here in the south of say that black dudes date outside their race or aggressively are trying to abandon their women for 1. White women 2. Asians 3. Latinas 4. ANYTHING but having their feet held to the fire by courts or judges or whatever to where they habe to man up and actually take care of their own kind.

    Anyway I read once on here African Americans have 6x the rate of the clap as white men.

    If you see a white girl go mudshark smear her. Otherwise some other poor sucker will inherit her new imported crotch microbiologist collection….

    One mudshark dalliance can spread dozens of ADs to dozens of other men.

    We need to do an MLK type Cosby message where they need to take care of their own people and dependants before trying to literally lose their identities into other ethnic or racial groups

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
    , @BB753
  56. anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    To be sure, some nerds are nice, and some jocks are still jerks

    I guess the most notorious jerk jock in history didn’t come to mind – O.J. Simpson.

    There’s a web site somewhere that keeps a running list of all all the arrested NFL players. It’s a vibrant list.

  57. Anonym says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Stanley Kramer was born in Manhattan, New York, in a neighborhood known as Hell’s Kitchen due to its reputation as a tough, gang-ridden area. His parents were Jewish, and having separated when he was very young, he remembered little about his father.

  58. @Anonymous

    In that Finnegans Wave surfing memoir I read by William Finnegan, none of the girlfriends of the author or his surf buddies were surfers of any seriousness. I don’t think they had anything against surfer girls, they are just rare.

    The movie Blue Crush from the early 2000s is about a surfer girl trying to make a comeback in competitive surfing after a bad accident wrecked her body and confidence. They did a lot of handheld cinematography in big Hawaiian waves. Big time surfing is pretty scary.

  59. AndrewR says:
    @Jack Hanson

    My “LOL” is temporarily inoperative, but, while this girl and her cucked Colbert writer husband may be from an “extremely narrow socioeconomic slice,” they’re from the most influential slice. Millions of people hear the jokes he writes. Thousands of people read the feminist clickbait she writes. Most people are very susceptible to elite media opinion, hence the overwhelming propaganda coup the establishment scored after communists and the government colluded to attack, arrest and demonize the pro-statue protesters last year.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    , @Jack Hanson
  60. AndrewR says:
    @Jim Gammon

    How so? He sounds like someone who has found his niche. I wouldn’t hire him but apparently many upper-class people would.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
  61. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous

    Maybe he matched it. I neither know nor care.

    That beautiful young black woman’s murder was horrible, but the usual suspects wasted no time in blaming White Supremacy and Patriarchy for the crazed acts of a clearly insane homeless white man. If she had been white and the killer black, which famous celebrities would have raised money for her?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Lurker
    , @Truth
  62. @Anonymous

    My impression of Groupon is that it was kind of a loanshark deal that would provide needed cash up front in return for a huge cut. I went to a lot of Groupon deals, like a rickety chairlift ride (terrifying) up Mt. Baldy and a hamburger on top for $12. I imagine the ski hill place, after years of no snow, was desperate for some cash in order to stay in business.

    The one business that did get us hooked via Group-On was Pacific Opera Project with $12 ticket for La Boheme, including food and wine. I’ve probably paid full price 15 or 20 times since then: but it’s still a good deal and POP keeps getting better. Their opera in June was their most entertaining yet: they’ve hired a choreographer who has figured out comic dance numbers that the lead opera singers can perform while singing. (Normally, opera singers just stand there and concentrate.)

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  63. Joe Walker says: • Website

    The article should really have the title “Black Jocks Rule, White Nerds Drool – Provided Those White Nerds Are Not Jewish“.

    • Replies: @moshe
  64. @Anonymous

    Surfer dudes want surfer chicks not beach bunnies. Peg-scraping bikers don’t want a pillion warmer, they want a biker girl who thinks the Crest or Ortega is an easy 100mph road and proves it riding her Yamaha YZF-R1. Off-trail mountain backpackers want a girl who can heft an external frame pack loaded with gear and grub and boulder hop upslope for miles. Scuba divers want…; well, you get the picture.

    A formula for chronic demand-supply imbalance.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  65. “Ms. Wright dreamily muses while practicing signing her future name “Ms. Jennifer Wright-James” or maybe “Mrs. Stephen Curry.”

    Why marry them when she can just dream about her husband paying to raise their kids?

  66. @Anonymous

    You can invent the transistor, but women still prefer the 6’3” guy.

    That makes some sense, because regression to the mean is a real thing. If you want a good parent to your kids, better pick an average person but with a proven history of generations of good breeding rather than a star.

    • Replies: @megabar
  67. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    From the video @ approx. 8:50 (skimming, I just chanced to listen here)

    “Ah um, Alma Mahler was pretty cool in her own right. She did have sex with pretty much everyone famous in Vienna….ended her life cavorting around with Leonard Bernstein and just a cool, cool lady all the way through. (Happy grins all around) But after she heard that Oscar (an ex-lover whom she unceremoniously dumped) was wounded in the war, she noted, “The whole thing doesn’t really affect me very much, I don’t really believe in his injuries. I don’t believe in this person at all anymore.”

    And there you have it gents. While you’re “over there” imagining that you’re sacrificing yourself in battle to preserve and protect that gal back home, she is “shtupping” (as the blonde puts it) any and everyone. She could care less about you as you lie bleeding out in a rat infested bomb crater.

    Could these women be any more cold-hearted? And they lecture us about the difference between rape and sex that women enjoy? And demand that we are supposed to be sensitive to their proclivities?

    Screw that.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    , @Clyde
    , @Rosie
    , @L Woods
  68. The stereotypes are getting all confused here. So women really do want a sensitive man who will listen to them (not a thug), but they now find that ideal more perfectly approximated by the pseudo-magnanimity of grandstanding athletes than by the icy and tactless assaults of Silicon Valley spergs?

    That really doesn’t fit the Manosphere’s narrative at all (which is no big deal, since that narrative has always been garbage anyway); but, while Ms. Wright’s commentary is infuriating in its almost orthogonal ability to miss the point, this does nevertheless seem to be a step in the right direction. I’ll explain.

    The culture does need to dispense with the figment of the nerd with the heart of gold, for this concept does not take adequate recognition of what a nerd actually is. The defining characteristic of a nerd is neither intelligence nor sensitivity, but an impenetrable off-beat egotism. The intellect of most nerds is usually of a rather mediocre sort, and underneath that kooky exterior you will generally find a person who is just as sensuous, just as self-absorbed, and just as unreflectively boorish as the stereotypical jock. The nerds don’t even really know that they’re nerdy and their low social status is not something they ever take to heart. It is no surprise that they grab and bully women whenever they’re able.

    But when you add to this the fact that Elon Musk is not really a nerd but a ruthless liar and a fraud, it seems Ms. Wright’s description is hopelessly muddled.

  69. Anon[718] • Disclaimer says:

    “a lightweight confection of female fantasy better suited for Cosmo”

    Didn’t feminists get Cosmo banned from Wal Mart – something about female stereotypes? I guess the Times has decided to pick up an underserved audience in the wake of #metoo: women who want to be women and who fantasize about the dominant men they aren’t allowed to see in Hollywood movies anymore.

  70. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Niccolo Salo

    Terry Crews admitted publicly on air several times that he’s a porn addict. You can find it up on YouTube.

    Crews said he was a porn addict before becoming a born-again Christian. Stephen Curry is constantly referring to Jesus as his Lord and Savior. Ms. Wright, having been married by the Universal Brotherhood Movement, Inc., certainly would never acknowledge Christianity as positively influencing masculine men.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    , @Hail
  71. Anon[718] • Disclaimer says:

    “Another nasty white girl with a [xxx] gets a [xxx]….”

    Maybe not. The story itself is actually a clever exercise in deflection. Feminist-sympathizing women are complaining that they got their way because weak beta males let them and they then predictably ruined things for themselves; “where are all the good men?” They can’t come out and say that directly because women often don’t have the emotional maturity to accept blame for their actions, so they attempt here to shame white nerds into taking the blame for them. Nerds should rebel at this suggestion. These girls might even respect them for it.

  72. Anon[718] • Disclaimer says:

    “You can invent the transistor, but women still prefer the 6’3” guy.”

    And you can tell people you are a feminist but still date only alpha male Chads:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/emma-watsons-boyfriends-tom-felton-3006278

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/10/emma-watson-still-has-a-silicon-valley-boyfriend/

  73. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    A lot of nerds are also pretty unambitious, content to focus on whatever small niche of abstract thinking or entertainment fascinates them the most.

    Something you see in the book about Theranos, Bad Blood, by John Carreyrou. Very smart nerds (Cambridge, Stanford, MIT PhD’s) whose reductionist disposition blinded them from the obvious fraud going on for years. Then on the opposite side you had the generalist mindset geeks (Schultz, Boies, Perry, Burd, Mattis, et al.) who were also hoodwinked.

    Thank God these two types are simply running the world instead of doing stuff which effects us all, like stopping and solving crimes, putting out fires, repairing electrical lines, etc.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  74. Anonym says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Ms. Wright photographs well but comes off as a dorky dingbat when she speaks—weak chin, gawky posture, and wack sing-songy cadence that randomly dips low.

    I knew I’d heard that voice somewhere before.

  75. Anon[718] • Disclaimer says:

    “It Ended Badly: 13 of the Worst Breakups In History.”

    Lol, is she trying to talk herself into something here?

  76. @Anonymous

    Aw come on man. That one’s easy. Just look soulful and nod politely every couple of sentences. Tell her how much you admire her poise and grace under fire, or whatever the buzzwords are for her generational cohort (read her past columns before you meet her for lunch). Subtly hint about your physical ability to ward off unwelcome advances.

    That first photo is really good; a lot of effort went into it. Odd how her features have gotten kind of pinched since then.

    I joke that women don’t have careers–they have elaborate personal ads. Do women really do rhythmic gymnastics or synchronized swimming for love of the sport?

    Looks like she hit age 30 and promptly hitched with the strapping Daniel Kibblesnbits. I don’t envy him.

  77. @AndrewR

    Symptomatic of the rot in our culture. 30 or 40 years ago people were wed at 19-22 years old and their “stories” were all so similar it would seem arrogant and rude for the wedding officiant to convey that he was telling their “unique story.” Indeed, the whole point of a wedding is that it is NOT a unique story, that two specific individuals are taking part in this common ritual that propagates a stable society. Nowadays people are so solipsistic it is just assumed that what you want is for some failed entertainer to create a narrative about how you are so special and different from everyone who has ever been married. On a related note I dread receiving wedding invitations

    • Replies: @njguy73
  78. @Anonymous

    As long as she’s hot, being a nerd is actually a plus for a girl. If she’s hot, her nerd personality usually prevents her from realizing it, therefore she’s usually more pleasant to be around than the ones that know they’re hot and flaunt it. And the Alpha jock types often get with this type of girl, based on what I’ve seen.

  79. fnn says:
    @Anonymous

    Now that I think of it, likely true also of the dominant culture’s derision of military service from Vietnam to 9/11. I have dim memory of a NYT article from the 90s mildly mocking the US Army Infantry as a “suburban white kids playing Rambo.”

  80. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, there was the Rothschild heiress who divorced and got busy with a rapper. I must admit I laughed at that one. I predict a similar outcome in this case.

  81. Can someone please introduce her to LeSean McCoy

  82. songbird says:

    I love the lazy way that she signals that “she used to love nerds.”

    In the film “Revenge of the Nerds”, the character Lewis has sex with the jock’s girlfriend while he is wearing a mask and pretending to be her boyfriend, thus tricking her into believing that he is her boyfriend.

    She probably never saw the movie or never saw it after she took up the career of being an outraged feminist. Or else, she could not think of a well-known title that signals the idea of nerds, except for the film.

    I hope the other feminists eat her alive.

  83. bomag says:
    @Anonymous

    An apparent parody that is real. Bleh.

    Lots of Social Justice Pokemon points wrapped up in that book.

  84. Dr. X says:

    So what about their old schoolyard nemeses, those heartless bullies — the jocks?

    Well, they suddenly seem pretty great by comparison.

    …None of these guys sound like the heartless, monosyllabic brutes pop culture made jocks out to be. They sound like the kind of men who would patiently listen to you and commiserate after a nerd sexually harasses you.

    Perhaps she needs to hook up with Mike Tyson, then…

  85. @Anonymous

    It was most likely arranged by Curry’s PR flack. The point was not to help the family, the point was to to make Stephen Curry look good without costing him too much.

    Donating too much of his own money would set a bad precedent for the PR firm’s other clients.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Corn
    , @Anon
  86. Ok, my analysis of this odd couple: They have an Arrangement. Milady has a thing for black dudes, but has to pay for it, given her body type. Soy boy hubbie is gay and also besotted with black dudes. ‘Nuff said.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  87. Dr. X says:

    OT:

    Intersectionality in Chicago… white female bike safety activist gets hit by illegal — and helps her get away to avoid deportation

    https://chi.streetsblog.org/2018/08/10/whats-just-a-cyclists-dilemma-after-being-injured-by-an-undocumented-driver/

  88. @Anon

    Lol yeah.

    Why Men Need to Say Sorry More

    The Difference Between Rape and Flirting

    Her entire oeuvre is just an long exercise in id-justification. (She could have saved herself a lot of time by just assigning these articles to a writing algorithm with the same result though.)

    My favorite one is

    Stop Shaming Women for Spending Money

    Translation: Mr. Kibblesmith, prepare to write a lot of alimony checks to Jennifer and child support checks for your curiously swarthy “offspring”.

  89. @Anon

    Daniel KIBBLESMITH?

    How many times had he heard “Kibbles and Bits and Bits and Bits” growing up?

    But now he’s found Mz. (W)right.

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
  90. Crews’s shot at “toxic masculinity” may just be a way to divert us from considering “toxic negritude”.

  91. @JohnnyWalker123

    She probably wants to get railed by muscular black guys

    What makes you think she isn’t getting her needs filled every Friday and Saturday night, then comparing notes with her girlfriends over bottomless mimosas at Sunday brunch?

  92. OT

    And then #MeToo came for Keith Ellison, the Man Who Would Be DNC Chair: https://www.facebook.com/Aslimsed/posts/2319161644777680?hc_location=ufi

    Bonus for the iSteve world: the woman this is about, not about Kim his ex-wife, is named Karen MONAHAN! (Haven’s sister?) Literally all of it is about domestic abuse support systems and political actions along with oblique mentions of how “a prominent politician ex of hers” has committed these very acts. Even his longtime supporters on the interwebs are saying this is lot more credible. The ex-wife also got a restraining order on Keith once but then the details of that never came out as I recall. But when an opponent brought it up at a debate, Ellison became pretty unhinged at the guy. Verbally abusive.

    There may be a reason why Keith Ellison is not running for re-election to Congress but rather for Minnesota AG.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  93. @Anonymous

    She’s LARP-ing as a journalist.

    LeBron’s amazing “skool” appears to be a largely tax-payer funded fraud.

  94. ChrisZ says:

    One of the great things about this blog is that the host and commenters really break down a “story” like this one. So in short order we get info on the author’s professional and personal background, links to her previous writings, photo and video reference of herself and her husband, evidence of family economic status.

    It all puts a piece like this in context, as something which is intended from the start to aggravate and inflame “deplorables.” That is, the little inconsistencies and ironies documented in this forum are not unconscious but purposeful. Both wife and husband are professional clickbait creators, and evidently successful at it.

    Knowing that saves me from suffering too much agita over the column. But there really is something repulsive about the writer. It’s one thing to be writing this stuff (essentially a kind of pornography) as a way to make a struggling living; it’s another to be wealthy (as her family and husband clearly are) and still doing it. That’s a sickness of character.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Forbes
  95. @Jack Hanson

    Yes Steve, this woman from an extremely narrow socioeconomic slice of America totally validates Whiskey’s monomania

    Her piece is in the NYT, which is the paper of record in NYC, the capital of the world – i. e. the most enormous media megaphone on Earth.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  96. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Brazil’s Rodrigo Koxa sets record for biggest wave ever surfed (80 foot):

  97. sayless says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Alternatively,

    kibblethwaite

  98. Gunner says:

    Hardwick had his own Mtv game show in his 20s! Some nerd!

  99. Gunner says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    A Colbert writer, so of course.

  100. @Steve Sailer

    I don’t think they had anything against surfer girls, they are just rare

    They are very rare in any sport, despite what the glossy ski/surf/climbing/diving/running magazines would have us believe about the hordes of strong independent wymyn tearing it up out there.

  101. istevefan says:

    On July 30, the N.B.A. star LeBron James opened a school in Akron, Ohio …

    Yes. He “opened” a school in which he will cover about 25% of the costs and the taxpayers will be on the hook for the rest. Yet he is treated as having done it all himself.

    Contrast that to when a guy like Trump makes a donation. The media will track down every last penny to ensure Trump actually gave what he said he was going to give. Remember when Trump skipped the Iowa debates and decided to hold a fundraiser for vets? He raised a decent sum of dough in a brief time, but got no pats on the back.

    It’s nice James takes an interest in helping others. But we were led to belief he was going to be paying for the school as in 100 percent.

    • Replies: @Truth
  102. AaronB says:

    Amusing to see all the manosphere types double down on their fantasy when reality doesn’t match their script :)

  103. Impression that white tra$$h on the right track of ”IQ” is even dumber/irrational, on very avg, than those on the left…

  104. @ThreeCranes

    Listen to the song, “Billy, don’t be a hero.” especially the last line, for a clear understanding of the male female relationship. Similar to the relationship between predators and prey. The only question to be answered is, which is which.

  105. Mr. Anon says:

    Last week, another N.B.A. player, Stephen Curry, raised over $21,000 through a live-streamed event to help benefit the family of Nia Wilson, a young woman who was stabbed to death at a train station in Oakland, Calif.

    i.e., he told other people to donate to the family of Nia Wilson. I’m always amazed that convincing other people to donate money to charity is an act that in itself is deemed charitable.

  106. @Anonymous

    Thank God these two types are simply running the world instead of doing stuff which effects us all, like stopping and solving crimes, putting out fires, repairing electrical lines, etc.

    If you stopped crime and stopped fires from occurring, you would eliminate half the jobs in America. Those source elements are vital to the economic health of our nation. Not only that, but where would Hollywood get material for movies and TV shows if there were no crime.

    Electrical line failures are almost always the result of weather events. Besides, the total number of men working on electrical lines is miniscule compared to the other two occupations.

  107. I really admire Terry Crews for seeming like a good guy, the kind you could have a beer with or who would help you move, and who refreshingly seems to be about more than blackety black black blackness, but especially for his being one of the few Hollywood types to denounce the evil of pornography for its invidious effects on men’s health and on families (the biggest evil of it and the source of its power) rather than the feminazi angle that all the women are exploited (visit a nudie bar and ask yourself, honestly and seriously, who is exploiting whom…).

    Back to the point about Whisky: notice the race of Crews’ wife….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3461279/Terry-Crews-reveals-pornography-addiction-bad-went-rehab-wife-threatened-leave.html

  108. moshe says:
    @Joe Walker

    Sure, but isn’t that obvious? What does a goy nerd have to offer…anybody? I mean I’m generalizing but Jewish nerds have a pretty impressive success rate of getting cool stuff done. They might be weird and awkward but they’re way WAY more likely to be smart or interesting or funny or confident every so often, while goy nerds like yourself just sit around farting into their cog-in-the-machine workchair while they decompose for 80 years.

    Nerdy Jews may be as timid and unconfortable-in-public as needy goys but they’re a whole hell of a lot more interesting to talk to.

    They rarely pull of becoming a Woody Allen or whomever (is he actually a nerd by the way?) but they are worthwhile people and any woman who isn’t a bimbo will at least notice it. You guys however are just blank smelly slates…slowly expiring.

    Jocks may indeed rule but, in case you haven’t noticed, Jews tend to rule too.

  109. @Anonymous

    Yeah; casually calling Crews a porn addict is like stating, with no qualifications or elaboration, that Saul of Tarsus did everything he could to destroy nascent Christianity or that Bill W. was a raging enthusiast for booze….

    SMDH.

  110. @Anonymous

    Hollywood attempting to raise the status of physically challenged Jewish males relative to the more athletic and attractive Gentile White men

    When Schlemiel Met Shiksa has been the reigning comedy plot for decades. But it is more complex than “See, Jewish guys are attractive!” It also has a Jewish liberation message: “Jewish women are awful! Jewish guys deserve better – and we can get it, too!”

    It works in reverse, too, as in Dirty Dancing.

    Compare Dirty Dancing and The Hangover. Jew or Jewish stand-in protagonist (Ed Helms/Jennifer Grey) rejects an annoying/awful Jewish suitor (Rachael Harris/Max Cantor) in favor of a dumb Gentile hooker with a heart of gold (Heather Graham/Patrick Swayze).

  111. Karl says:

    has Sarah Jeong tweeted or written anything RECENTLY?

    Or is she already dead meat?

  112. Rosie says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Any ideas?

    Does Whiskey have a point?

    I have commented on this before, and the author of this article actually touches on the point I made that women are attracted to defiance. In very rare women, this attraction becomes extremely pathological and manifests in crushes on serial killers. Normal women just like a man with backbone and self-respect. This is, in my opinion, a very good thing.

  113. Rosie says:
    @Lagertha

    Whiskey has always been correct. I love him, even when he hates that he is loved.

    I’ll have to think of a term like “cuck” for women who disrespect their own to show their down with the brothers.

  114. Rosie says:
    @Svigor

    It’s Jewish psyops. It’s been pouring out of (((Big Media))) for decades. What’s so special about this one – they paid a hot shiksa to write it?

    Yep, and the thing is, none of those publicity stunts showcasing these black jocks’ sensitive side ever would have happened but for the advice of their (((handlers))).

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
  115. Dumbo says:

    Funny. Well, maybe it’s really just psyops for the masses, after all she didn’t marry a jock but a rich Jewish nerd guy who wrote about Santa’s black gay lover.

    Then again, it won’t surprise me in the least if they never have biological children and adopt an orphan from Zambia instead, or if they get divorced after just a few years.

  116. Corn says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I don’t know his finances, but maybe he didn’t have the money to donate?
    Quite a few NBA players live in the red or paycheck to paycheck. Nights at the club, entourages, child support after the broken condom etc all get expensive.

    • Replies: @njguy73
  117. Rosie says:
    @Jack Hanson

    Yes Steve, this woman from an extremely narrow socioeconomic slice of America totally validates Whiskey’s monomania.

    You think if I were to write an article with an opposing viewpoint, the Times would publish it? Maybe I’ll go leave a comment. Oh wait never mind that’s not allowed.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  118. Having used dating websites in tech-heavy areas, it quickly becomes obvious that women in tech despise the focus and pusillanimity of their co-workers and are quite vocal about seeking more “excitement” in a love interest I’ll never forget one line: “tech as a job is ok, but if you think about it all the time that’s lame”, or something to that effect. Once they break that glass ceiling they grow bored and need new toys to smash.

  119. Commenter trolling Steve?

  120. Dumbo says:

    The whole announcement of their marriage reads like an article from the Onion. Universal Brotherhood Movement? Santa’s Husband? GovPayNet?

    This is our “elite”, laughing all the way to the bank at the rubes who pay taxes and believe their bullshit.

  121. Ragno says:

    As usual, a profoundly depressing story to start the week with. (No, I’m not blaming you, Steve.)

    I’m going to bypass the usual, and perfectly-understandable, what we need are “Nazis” who punch back – and punch first, reaction to simply express befuddlement – for all their rehearsed stage-agony, people like this have remained utterly untouched by Trump’s Fourth Reich (if anything, their nest eggs have grown; and their positions, as comfortably-renumerated handmaidens of the Deep State, are safe as houses), so you have to presume that their gender-fluid war faces are adopted because the entirety of public and private life are not being run according to their bullet-points. And the depressing part is that in either two or six years, when Trump’s brave but hopelessly-compromised assault on their systemic occupation of America is over, these fucking people will still be there, cemented firmly in place….they will be not a nickel poorer and their hair, if mussed, will be entirely self-inflicted for show. But my God, I can hear them issuing lists of demands already (to prevent any further Trumps from ever getting within hailing distance of political power) – and I’m sure I don’t need to point out their grandstanding, showboating and drama-whoring will boggle the mind and help incrementally edge those white suicide numbers up even higher.

    I’ll cut this off here in the interests of not contributing to the Alex Jonesing of the Unz website, except to say that it was only a few years ago when I, like a lot of us, enjoyed the luxury of feeling a cold, sick horror at the antics ‘n’ atrocities of a Fred Phelps, an Anders Breivik, or the Allah-moaners who settled Charlie Hebdo’s hash. Let’s just say that I no longer enjoy that luxury, but at least I’m not stupid enough to still view such events as ‘atrocities’. Sad as it is to acknowledge, everything…. and I mean EVERYTHING…. is relative.

  122. @Steve Sailer

    Dang, already used my “LOL” option.

  123. @Anonymous

    Talk about shit you can’t make up, this just keeps getting better.

  124. ChrisZ says:
    @Rosie

    Very funny, shrewd observation, Rosie.

    I also got a kick out of the Clark Kent glasses (((they))) dressed LeBron up in, in the CNN video JohnnyWalker linked to above.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  125. Kibblesmith… is a real name…

    Did his ancestors make animal feed? Or did they change the family name from Dungsmith?

  126. @Anonymous

    It’s not that they’re nerds so much, it’s that they’ll never shut up about office drama and the life-changing import of what they’re doing, instead of it just being, you know, a job.

    I think a nerdy woman who did crafts or collected books or something is a pretty ideal mate for a lot of guys, isn’t that part of the appeal of Asian women? They’re smart and apply it to practical affairs.

  127. @JMcG

    She thinks that’s the way cool black guys wear theirs.

    • LOL: JMcG
  128. @Reg Cæsar

    OK, so first put the kibble in the furnace and heat it up to a red glowing heat. Then grab it with the tongs and get a 15lb hammer… we’re going to have to beat this into tiny triangle shapes…

  129. Rosie says:
    @PiltdownMan

    A formula for chronic demand-supply imbalance.

    True, and you won’t hear any surfer chicks complaining about it.

  130. Rosie says:
    @ThreeCranes

    And there you have it gents. While you’re “over there” imagining that you’re sacrificing yourself in battle to preserve and protect that gal back home, she is “shtupping” (as the blonde puts it) any and everyone. She could care less about you as you lie bleeding out in a rat infested bomb crater.

    Can someone please explain to these manosphere creeps the difference between anecdotes and actual evidence?

  131. Rosie says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The culture does need to dispense with the figment of the nerd with the heart of gold, for this concept does not take adequate recognition of what a nerd actually is. The defining characteristic of a nerd is neither intelligence nor sensitivity, but an impenetrable off-beat egotism. The intellect of most nerds is usually of a rather mediocre sort, and underneath that kooky exterior you will generally find a person who is just as sensuous, just as self-absorbed, and just as unreflectively boorish as the stereotypical jock. The nerds don’t even really know that they’re nerdy and their low social status is not something they ever take to heart. It is no surprise that they grab and bully women whenever they’re able.

    Painful truths. Slightly OT: Why do these guys always work at the copy store? Seriously, it’s like every single time I go to these places, the guy who waits on me is like straight out of central casting!

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  132. dana says: • Website
    @Whiskey

    WHISKEY why did you stop blogging????? i have had to endure years without your commentary, please start again!!

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  133. @Intelligent Dasein

    …almost orthogonal ability to miss the point…

    Worthy of Dennis Miller in his prime.

  134. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned

    What does that even mean “6x the rate?” Surely the primary factor for gonorrhea (as tricky to spell as it is to have) is the man’s # of partners, i.e. promiscuity. It can be culturally aggravated as with black men transmitting HIV because of On The Down-Low habits picked up in the pokey — but the idea of an STD being significantly more virulent for a certain racial host doesn’t make sense. Also women will never ever evolve to be attracted to loser men who can’t score without paying upfront, for tautological uniformitarianism reasons.

  135. Slightly off topic:

    SKYKING….Rest in eternal Peace……

  136. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    It was already unimpeachable “actual evidence” of a woman’s thoughts (albeit embellished to entertain her bimbo audience). The existence of a thing is absolute proof of its possibility.

    Anyway, if some women didn’t act like pigs frequently, it would exclusively deprive other women of the joy of correcting them, since men can’t do that now

  137. res says:
    @Lot

    I think that one is worth an inline:

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @black sea
  138. Maciano says:

    “santa’s husband”

    that’s enough internet for today.

  139. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    cf. also Neil LaBute, films of (esp. In the Company of Men)

  140. Cortes says:

    Hopefully both spouses got “How To Care For Your New Beard” manuals as gifts.

  141. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t think this is true at all. The more masculine the sport, the more the females attracted to it tend to be on the uh… masculine side… too. The last woman that most male soccer players want to date is a female soccer player.

    Men and women in general want mates whose interests are complementary to their own, not necessarily identical. Now romance is a strange thing – sometimes such couples work, but other times they don’t – one couple might see themselves as soul mates because of their identical interests but in another couple this interaction could lead to unhealthy competition. If you can do Ortega at 100 mph, then I can do it at 110…

    A lot of men get bikes to get AWAY from their wife – spending more time with her is the last thing that they want. Some marriages thrive on 24/7 togetherness and others are healthier when the mates can have some time of their own. So there’s no universal rule as you state there is.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    , @anonymous
  142. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    If she had been white and the killer black, which famous celebrities would have raised money for her?

    If her killer had been a black man, would Curry have held a fundraiser for her?

  143. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned

    Anyway I read once on here African Americans have 6x the rate of the clap as white men.

    The rate of genital herpes among blacks is nearly 50%.

    • Replies: @res
  144. @Rosie

    By “manosphere creep” I assume you’re referring to me. Me? A manosphere creep? Hah! I’m a far more accomplished cad than those guys are. I think their technique sucks. It takes too much effort to remember all those lines that supposedly establish their alpha-ness, and (I would guess) they have to practice delivering them with some sincerity. Too much bother and too much self conscious trying.

    Easier to just have four women in your life. Two full time, one on injured reserve and one being broken in. Admittedly, you have to keep their names straight, but that’s really the only difficult part of this approach. Two full time means there’s generally one ready and willing to do something fun. And if not, then there’s always the old standby, she on injured reserve who is still good for a few romps before being put out to pasture.

    And for spice there’s the new filly being broken in. Meetings with her can be left to serendipity and are carried on with a light touch–which is the key to this whole approach. Ease em in and ease em out, but give the two regulars a good workout. Always take the blame for the breakup with the one you’re saying goodbye to. Tell her you’re just not good enough for her. She deserves better. That’l blunt some of her anger until the storm blows over.

    So don’t confuse me with struggling manosphere types. Like every accomplished practitioner of a craft I held to the belief that “He travels fastest who travels alone.”

    Course, I’m retired now.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  145. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s so obvious in retrospect that what was going on then was Jews in Hollywood attempting to raise the status of physically challenged Jewish males relative to the more athletic and attractive Gentile White men. Culture of Jealousy-Driven Critique.

    Hmmm, I never thought of working-class Spider-Man as being particularly Jewish. Uncle Ben is actually associated with divinity in one scene where he changes a light bulb and says, “Let there be light.” That doesn’t seem very Jewish to me.

    Anyway, maybe you’re right. What about Iron Man? He’s a super smart techie and conventionally masculine at the same time. Is that the sort of thing that’s smokin’ hot in theory, but would never actually happen in real life because of constrained optimization? Both charisma (extraversion) and the ability to sustain prolonged concentration while working alone (introversion) would seem to be hard to come by in one person. Maybe Jarvis is the key.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Anon
    , @Rosie
    , @kaganovitch
  146. Escher says:
    @Anonym

    Her picture with husband in the article reminded me of Natalie Portman.

  147. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    (which is no big deal, since that narrative has always been garbage anyway)

    What do you think the manosphere gets wrong?

  148. Is this the first ever hot female featured on iSteve?

    I’d say if she does now or ever have kids, the chances of a paternity test proving soyboy as father are vanishingly minute. He must be a very good earner or have a fat trust fund bequeathed to him.

  149. Jack D says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    So you are saying that the intellect of say Elon Musk, who pursued a Ph.D. in physics at Stanford until he dropped out to become a billionaire, is mediocre and no better than that of the typical black jock who moves his lips when he reads, to the extent he can read at all? I call BS.

    The “nerd” was a figure who was pitied in American society – the “98 lb. weakling” who was always getting sand kicked in his face and his girl taken by the big jock in the Charles Atlas cartoon ads. Then the nerds started making billions (at least a few of them) and instead of being pitied they were envied.

    But a true nerd, by definition, has intellectual chops. Now it is possible to look like a “nerd” without having the actual intellectual chops to be one – these people are just the losers of life – they don’t have the physical attributes and they don’t have the mental attributes either – they got nuthin’. These are the guys that you see working in copy shops. They are not alphas or betas, they are omegas. We know from genetics studies that the situation for such men was even worse in the distant past. If the sultan has 500 wives, that means that there are 499 other guys who have zero wives. Monogamy was (while it lasted) great for omegas. Every woman thinks that she is entitled to something better than an omega but in the more recent past they had no choice but to settle for one.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  150. @Jack D

    In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion
    that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or
    convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the
    less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are
    forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious
    lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies
    themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity.
    To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil
    oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and
    even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.
    I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same
    effect and is intended to.
    - Theodore Dalrymple

  151. @Anonymous

    She doesn’t seem to be phantasizing about dominant men. To wit: “They sound like the kind of men who would patiently listen to you and commiserate after a nerd sexually harasses you.”

    You’re not paying attention to the implicit subtext, which runs something like, “After patiently listening to my complaints, these gentle and understanding men will rip the entrails from any less dominant man who offends me and enslave his women, humiliating them and making them my hero’s concubines and my maid servants.”

    This is the ultimate fantasy of every woman who’s ever lived, the unsung counterpoint to Genghis Khan’s famous enumeration of ultimate male desires.

  152. @Jack D

    if I were Mr. Jennifer I’d hire a detective to follow her at “lunchtime”

    The real Mr Jennifer prefers to be in the room watching!

  153. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Boatface? That’s a man, baby!

  154. Brutusale says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Crews also claims to have been sexually assaulted (genital groping) by a Hollywood producer.

  155. Jack D says:
    @Rosie

    Uncle Ben is actually associated with divinity in one scene where he changes a light bulb and says, “Let there be light.” That doesn’t seem very Jewish to me.

    Huh? Genesis is a Jewish story. Christians later adopted it and interpreted every passage as somehow foreshadowing the coming of Jesus, but this was all added later. The biblical story of the Creation was an exclusive Jewish story for at least 500 years before the birth of Jesus and continues to be Jewish until the present day.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  156. Truth says:
    @istevefan

    Yes. He “opened” a school in which he will cover about 25% of the costs and the taxpayers will be on the hook for the rest. Yet he is treated as having done it all himself

    Don’t taxpayers usually cover 100%?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Brutusale
  157. Truth says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The defining characteristic of a nerd is neither intelligence nor sensitivity, but an impenetrable off-beat egotism. The intellect of most nerds is usually of a rather mediocre sort, and underneath that kooky exterior you will generally find a person who is just as sensuous, just as self-absorbed, and just as unreflectively boorish as the stereotypical jock. The nerds don’t even really know that they’re nerdy and their low social status is not something they ever take to heart. It is no surprise that they grab and bully women whenever they’re able.

    Damn, you nailed that one on the head! I guess a few years of my personal mentorship is starting to pay off…

  158. @Anonymous

    It’s so obvious in retrospect that what was going on then was Jews in Hollywood attempting to raise the status of physically challenged Jewish males relative to the more athletic and attractive Gentile White men. Culture of Jealousy-Driven Critique.

    But they had to simultaneously emasculate men.

    Woman: “Aww, Bambi”
    Soyboy: “Aww, Bambi”
    Man: “Dinner!”

  159. Brutusale says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The culture does need to dispense with the figment of the nerd with the heart of gold, for this concept does not take adequate recognition of what a nerd actually is. The defining characteristic of a nerd is neither intelligence nor sensitivity, but an impenetrable off-beat egotism. The intellect of most nerds is usually of a rather mediocre sort, and underneath that kooky exterior you will generally find a person who is just as sensuous, just as self-absorbed, and just as unreflectively boorish as the stereotypical jock. The nerds don’t even really know that they’re nerdy and their low social status is not something they ever take to heart. It is no surprise that they grab and bully women whenever they’re able.

    This is pretty much the description of every Jewish guy I’ve ever known.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  160. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Are you Bronze Age Pervert? Asking for a friend.

  161. Rosie says:
    @Jack D

    These are the guys that you see working in copy shops.

    Jack, what is it with the sweat? Seriously, I understood them breaking into a cold sweat when I was 20, but not now. Why are they so terrified of people?

    • Replies: @snorlax
  162. Rosie says:
    @Jack D

    Huh? Genesis is a Jewish story. Christians later adopted it and interpreted every passage as somehow foreshadowing the coming of Jesus, but this was all added later. The biblical story of the Creation was an exclusive Jewish story for at least 500 years before the birth of Jesus and continues to be Jewish until the present day.

    I was referring to the association of working class men with goodness and Light. That’s unusual nowadays, or maybe I’m just out of touch.

  163. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    Dude, ALL Marvel comics push the Jewish Agenda. That’s their core, essence, raison d’etre.

    And ANYONE from NYC signals “Jew”. If they’re not wearing a yarmulke, that’s just for disguise.

    https://www.amazon.com/Green-Nazis-Space-Literature-Culture-ebook/dp/B01A1H0N8U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1534176041&sr=8-1&keywords=green+nazis+in+space

  164. @AndrewR

    My “LOL” is temporarily inoperative, but, while this girl and her cucked Colbert writer husband may be from an “extremely narrow socioeconomic slice,” they’re from the most influential slice. Millions of people hear the jokes he writes. Thousands of people read the feminist clickbait she writes. Most people are very susceptible to elite media opinion, hence the overwhelming propaganda coup the establishment scored after communists and the government colluded to attack, arrest and demonize the pro-statue protesters last year.

    It’s my observation that the real power of the NYT is to shape the zeitgeist among the media class who then shape their news and opinions in conformity with whatever they’ve been reading. We’ll wind up getting puff pieces on black athletes as big-hearted humanitarians soon enough, and perhaps some piece highlighting the toxicity of nerd culture.

    I think all this Wright woman is doing here is transposing the so-called “Nice Guy” phenomenon onto nerds via Gamergate. Nice Guys were an obsession with online feminist blogs for well over a decade and were derided with much more passion and frequency than actual rapists. There’s little doubt that Wright had her social and political opinions shaped by these blogs. The Nice Guy in online feminist parlance is someone who feels “entitled” to sex by virtue of being nice to a woman and playing up shared interests – they view this as a form of manipulation. When the object of a Nice Guy’s desire doesn’t respond in the way they’ve said they would, the Nice Guy gets frustrated and dejected, which is itself evidence that he never was really “Nice” in the first place.

    What they’re really describing is men who behave in ways that women say they want men to behave rather than ignoring it and watching how women actually behave.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  165. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    ” It used to be good enough just to portray blacks only in a wonderfully positive way whenever possible (to counterbalance all the police blotter stories with murderous blacks) but now it is necessary not only to portray blacks positively but also to portray white men negatively ”

    Someone should write a book about it.

    #28 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender eBooks > LGBT Studies > Gay Studies

    https://www.amazon.com/Homo-Negro-James-J-OMeara-ebook/dp/B0791JDVMV/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1534176438&sr=8-2&keywords=homo+negro&dpID=51dTn%252BIZVXL&preST=_SY445_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

  166. @Jack D

    Darymple said that one of the functions of totalitarian propaganda is humiliation

    Didn’t Bezmenov tell us that was his job (on film no less)? And isn’t all this just the communists’ revenge? We on the dissident right acknowledge Hitler’s revenge. We are now seeing the delayed results of a century of commie subversion and as reward for “defeating” communism. We need a good term for it, preferably one that doesn’t blame Jews or the evangelicals will never embrace it.

  167. snorlax says:
    @Rosie

    A shirt, tie and slacks, particularly the cheap polyester-blend ones the copy shop guy would wear, is a very hot outfit.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  168. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Exactly. If he gave his own money, what about all the other good causes, hmmm? They have an equal claim, right? Soon he’s broke, or perceived as cheap or mean. Instead, he assists by lending his name and publicity, so that lots of other people contribute the money. Win/win.

    I imagine that’s one reason black stars go broke: handing out money to worthy friends and family lest they be seen as cheap.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Almost Missouri
  169. @Anonymous

    Looks like we may have a law of married female journalism:

    Come the revolution, I’ll be rid of this lousy husband.

  170. black sea says:
    @res

    Definitely “grab-worthy,” in the Trumpian sense of the term.

  171. @Anon

    I wouldn’t count on him being all that smart either. Smart dudes don’t let themselves go like that. They share one another’s snobbery – they likely deserve each other.

  172. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    Come to think of it, the TRS guys (Mike and Sven) are really smart with a certain Starkish flair about them.

  173. Pat Boyle says:
    @Whiskey

    There are several non-congruent definitions of the term “nerd”.

    I used to manage the coders and technical people at a Internet start-up. They were virtually all men. Another group were the people in marketing. They were largely female.

    I was always offended when the girls called my boys “nerds”.

    I think they were trying to say something like Neculturny the marvelously evocative Russian term of revulsion for lack of cultured tastes. But in fact the girls in marketing really had no culture to speak of. They knew no science, math or art, music, history or literature. What they had was attitude and a sense and sympathy for pop style.

    Alas it was only too true about the shallowness of my best computer programmers. I once gave a mini-lecture to all my programmers. I told them that the world needed coders. I mentioned Linear B and how Linear A was still a mystery. I mentioned Champollion. I then told them that Rommel was a genius when the Nazis knew the American Black Code but Montgomery became a genius when the Allies broke Enigma. I told them that knowing code and and coding was an important – nay vital – skill in modern life. I was having a Knute Rockney moment.

    Then one of them deflated me by asking, “Who’s Rommel?”.

    Coders alas don’t seem to know much else but coding.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  174. Anon[917] • Disclaimer says:

    Kate Steinle, you aint alone

  175. Rosie says:
    @snorlax

    A shirt, tie and slacks, particularly the cheap polyester-blend ones the copy shop guy would wear, is a very hot outfit.

    I see.

  176. Rosie says:
    @Alec Leamas

    The Nice Guy in online feminist parlance is someone who feels “entitled” to sex by virtue of being nice to a woman and playing up shared interests – they view this as a form of manipulation. When the object of a Nice Guy’s desire doesn’t respond in the way they’ve said they would, the Nice Guy gets frustrated and dejected, which is itself evidence that he never was really “Nice” in the first place.

    Precisely.

  177. jsm says:
    @Rosie

    It’s worse even than that, Rosie. Whiskey is Jewish — excuse me, “Scots-Irish.”

    Lagertha isn’t even being down with OUR brothers.

    • Agree: Rosie
  178. notanon says:
    @Svigor

    it’s projection of their insecurities vis a vis white men

  179. Corvinus says:
    @Brutusale

    “This is pretty much the description of every Jewish guy I’ve ever known.”

    You need to have a much larger sample size other than your brother-in-law. And since when are you dissin’ the guy who gives you his prime floor seats to Madison Square Garden at a moment’s notice? Are you upset because he ate the last Sufganiyah?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  180. anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Smart
    Arch
    Dork
    SAD

  181. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson

    Silly comment. Almost all of the other socioeconomic slices of women made their preference for jocks/cads over nerds/dads known long ago. This is signifianct in that other than isolated religious communities, until now nerdy over-educated UMC urban hipster white chix were the last hold out in displaying (or at least claiming) the opposite. It’s now down to hardcore Mormons and Orthodox Jews, and who knows maybe even those women are picturing LeBron when they flick the bean.

    Whiskey validated.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  182. @JohnnyWalker123

    True but Kramer also gave us It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World which is only the greatest movie ever made, imho.

  183. notanon says:
    @Anonymous

    the PUA part are/were focused on getting casual sex which led them to focus on women who were most likely to provide it i.e. the most r-selected women – so what they say is correct but it’s only correct in proportion to how r-selected a woman is i.e. it might be 90% correct for women who are 90% r-selected but it’s only 10% correct for women who are 90% K-selected.

  184. Neoconned says:
    @Anonymous

    It was cdc data….from a federal study. It wasn’t just a claim….some poster here posted a link to a cdc.gov study and that’s where I read it….its. because in black culture they practice multiple partners than monogamy…..hence why you need to avoid white women who swim in chocolate , etc .

  185. Lot says:
    @Anonymous

    “but the idea of an STD being significantly more virulent for a certain racial host doesn’t make sense.”

    Sure it does. How did New Worlders hold up to Old World diseases? How did the British and French do when they sent people to Africa’s maleria belt?

  186. @Anonymous

    CDC: “In 2014, 55.4% of all reported cases of gonorrhea occurred among blacks. The rate of gonorrhea among blacks in 2014 was 405.4 cases per 100,000 population, which was 10.6 times the rate among whites (38.3). This disparity has changed little in recent years. This disparity was similar for black men (10.6 times) and black women (10.7 times).”

  187. @Dave Pinsen

    Either the point flew over your head (re: upholding him as someone to be admired) or you seem to feel that porn usage isn’t all that big a deal.

    Either way American/10.

  188. notanon says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I still never understood why serial killers get fan mail from groupies.

    adaptation: in a violent environment what is more important for the survival of a woman’s genes – occasional beatings or strong sons?

    once upon a time it made sense for women to be attracted to killers cos the benefit to her sons was greater than the disbenefit to her but as society got more peaceable this became less true however those genes still exist on a bell curve and the kind of women who write to serial killers or fantasize about murder are on the far edge of that bell curve.

  189. Abe says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Last week, another N.B.A. player, Stephen Curry, raised over $21,000 through a live-streamed event to help benefit the family of Nia Wilson…

    Why didn’t he just write her a $25,000 check from his own plentiful funds

    Makes me long for the more racially-harmonious 90’s, when after the father of the world’s most famous basketball player was robbed and murdered, the fact that the gang who did it was multiracial could bring us together as a nation to rejoice.

  190. notanon says:

    it’s as much anti-white propaganda as anti-nerd as you can only work for NYT if you’re anti-white and no doubt she wants to keep earning enough to avoid living with the consequences of the policies the NYT advocates.

    the interesting thing is for a long time the media promoted nerds > jocks for reasons already mentioned so i wonder if this is the start of a trend – a feminist reaction to gamergate maybe?

  191. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    No, there are always (or at least often) donors. Sometimes the donors are idiots and insist on the school buying useless garbage when there are actually helpful things worth spending money on.

  192. I know Unz is a bit more cerebral than your average dissident web platform, but have none of you EVER been to Chateau Heartiste? Or really, any other ‘manosphere’ site?

    This is the oldest news there is and can be encapsulated in the trite but true phrase you will hear trumpeted in such Real Talk corners of the digital world: Alpha FUX Beta BUX. *drops the mic*

    Whiskey just spins this as a race cuck issue as he has for a decade because he cannot bring himself to cancel his blacked.com porn subscription. The inter-racial issue here is simply driven by (((The Narrative))) but if the narrative wasn’t there the girl would still be chasing Chad Thundercock while Herbie McHerbitude was at home paying the bills. There is nothing new under the sun.

  193. @Anonymous

    “Surely the primary factor for gonorrhea (as tricky to spell as it is to have) is the man’s # of partners, i.e. promiscuity.”

    No, that’s wrong. It’s the quality of the partners. It only takes one slut to give you gonorrhea. You can bang dozens of women and not get it if you’re selective and they’re equally picky in their choice of partners.

    Besides, who has gonorrhea anyway? Only some narcissistic, diseased ridden clown who doesn’t go in for treatment. And to pass it on to someone else knowing that you have it? That’s the behavior of a criminal sociopath.

  194. g says:

    There’s some truth to what she’s saying.

    My parents are Chad and Stacey, and both my brother and my father are classic jocks. I’m borderline autistic and have spent most of my life among nerds (this includes an extensive e-life).

    My brother and father can be immensely self-absorbed, to the point where for practical purposes they seem to register low (or no) empathy. But because the world rarely wrongs them, they don’t exhibit the festering resentment that pops up in manosphere subreddits. Dad exhibits casual sexism, but not obsessive misogyny. Indeed, he — and my brother, to a far greater extent — has sort of an earnest, happy-g0-lucky, Golden Retriever personality.

    Nerds date, hence date-rape, fewer women than jocks. But there are only a few environments where I can recall feeling viscerally hated for being female, and none of them were frathouses. Instead, examples that spring to mind are the Persian Gulf and alt-right websites.

    That said, the only jocks I have much experience with are white.

    • Replies: @JSM
  195. Bill says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    No, Whiskey does not have a point.

    There are men, men who are little better than animals, who pursue surgically enhanced, bleached, bimbi who would rather spend time primping and partying than taking care of their children. Some of these men even live in my neighborhood. I understand these men very well and am contemptuous of them. As should be everyone else.

    Women are the same. Except their base instincts aren’t for bimbi but for bad boys.

    In short, Whiskey is 100% wrong about absolutely everything.

    And also, women like bad boys, especially physically attractive ones.

  196. res says:
    @Anonymous

    What does that even mean “6x the rate?”

    It’s actually pretty simple (and the ratio is closer to 9x). Notice the word rates in the caption.

    Figure T. Gonorrhea — Rates of Reported Cases by Race/Ethnicity and Sex, United States, 2016

    Another way of looking at it is the rate ratios (as in the original comment). It is telling that they had to use a logarithmic y axis!

    Figure S. Gonorrhea — Rate Ratios* by Race/Ethnicity, United States, 2012–2016

    And it’s not just the clap:

    Figure R. Chlamydia — Rates of Reported Cases by Race/Ethnicity and Sex, United States, 2016

    Source: https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats16/minorities.htm

  197. Kylie says:
    @Rosie

    If you’re looking for sororal solidarity, you’re in the wrong place.

    Actually, you’re in the wrong place here regardless of what you’re looking for.

    • LOL: Stan d Mute
  198. @AndrewR

    So influential thag even being in total control of academia, the media, and finance they’re freaking out and unable to hold back people waking up and accepting bad think.

    Yeah, another bit of biting commentary from the high school crowd, courtesy of sharia enthusiast AndrewR.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  199. @Rosie

    I don’t think Steve would publish it because it flies in the face of everything his son Whiskey believes.

  200. res says:
    @Anonymous

    The rate of genital herpes among blacks is nearly 50%.

    Varies by sex and age.

    Herpes Simplex Virus Type 2 — Seroprevalence Among Non-Hispanic Whites and Non-Hispanic Blacks by Sex and Age Group, National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), 1988–1994, 1999–2002, 2003–2006, and 2007–2010

    Source: https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stats.htm

  201. BB753 says:
    @Neoconned

    Who says she’s clean? After all, she had plenty of time to party in College.

  202. AndrewR says:
    @Rosie

    It’s ok. You can still find hot alphas on Tinder to pump and dump you.

  203. @Jack D

    When I boxed competitively I wasn’t attracted to female boxers (not soccer moms looking for a workout, but legit female boxers), but ring girls.

    iSteve and the subject of masculinity/women is always good for laughs and shows who’s LARPing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  204. @Intelligent Dasein

    Poor Jennifer lacks the ability to express her desires explicitly, so she does so in an oblique way, which is typical of an average woman.

    But it’s not just Ms Wright that looks confused. What you just wrote about nerds looks like it’s straight out of a Heartiste post. It’s more than obvious that someone with zero social skills won’t have any idea how to approach a woman and if he gains enough confidence he will awkwardly hit on a girl that won’t get attracted to him as a result, hence harrassment.

    The Manosphere narrative explains all these interactions in excruciating detail and offers the best description of sexual market dynamics to date. Sure, there’s plenty of people claiming they represent the Manosphere that blog incessantly yet they have no real experience of what’s what, but game works, period.

  205. @jim jones

    And the alternative media is choc full of stories about Ms Markle’s pre-Harry extra-curricular activities.

  206. @Anonymous

    Sailer’s First Law of Jewish Film Directors?

  207. Neoconned says:

    This is the Kardashian dream so popular with mudshark white trash tyoes….you can have it all….

    You can sleep with multiple high risk athletic partners(but black m3n have big you know what GURLLLLLL!!!!!), get rich by doing nothing but giving oral sex to rappers and then go do tans, massages etc….look at her nasty half sister who just became a single mom but is listed as a billionaire because of sales of her stupid cosmetics line

    All those gross, tattooed up, oft chunky if not morbidly obese white mudshark women see that and say HEEEYYYYY GURLLLL IMA DO THAT!….

    in real life when you have a kid with a brotha white women are often dis-inherited from wills. 1 I went to school with bad a kid w a black dude who then went to orison…her dad cut off her free rent and took away her car that was in his name.

    Go to any super Wal Mart in the south and see a 50ish white woman and or man w a 10 yr old mixed race child…..no white mom or black dad to be seen. Mamas in drug court or on the streets getting blitzed on dope and Shoquan the dad is in prison so yea good luck with that child support….

    Hey were paying for it via welfare and free education etc…..if we’re footing the bill for this garbage personally I think we have a say in stopping this stupid behavior on the part of more vulnerable or dumb white women…..

  208. Neoconned says:
    @res

    That’s 1 of the studies…..there we’re others posted…..

    I actually don’t care what consenting adults do….until they ask for me to pay or glorify their weird behavior.

  209. Truth says:
    @Kylie

    LOL, Damn Kylie, after all these years you gave up on your WNs?

    Hey, are you still married BTW?

  210. Bill says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    ID, you add a lot of value to this forum.

  211. @Rosie

    I wasn’t endorsing this view. Online feminists are nasty, disturbed pieces of work who take extreme enjoyment in the psychic pain of ordinary men. Having a human reaction to having been rejected is, well, human.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @S. Anonyia
  212. njguy73 says:
    @Anonym

    Jennifer Connelly and Jennifer Wright are about as similar as French bread and a French poodle.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  213. njguy73 says:
    @Anonymous

    You can invent the transistor, but women still prefer the 6’3” guy.

    Dave Chappelle once said of #BlueLivesMatter, “Police can take off the blue, but I can’t take off the black.”

    Well, a woman can lose 30 pounds, but a man can’t grow six inches.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
  214. njguy73 says:
    @M_Young

    For effs sake, they look exactly like that couple in Mad Men..the not the Drapers couple.

    Well, he’s Pete Campbell, but she’s no Trudy. And she sure as hell ain’t Annie Edison.

  215. I wouldn’t want any part of Lebron James or Terry Crews, but I’m reasonably certain I could take Stephen Curry in a fist fight.

  216. Anonym says:
    @njguy73

    Connelly is half Jewish. Not sure about Wright but the looks, politics, successful writer bit makes me suspect that she has some Jewish background. She lives in the right part of the world for it too.

    I didn’t mean looking similar facially, just in attractiveness and plausibly part Jewish.

  217. gwynedd1 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    He is so not LeBron it can be expressed logically as zero is not equal to one.

  218. Bill B. says:
    @Lot

    It gets worse. The Q&A at the author’s profile at Macmillan has this (about, probably, the man who is now her husband):

    Worst date you’ve ever hear of: I’m not one to tattle, but my boyfriend claims: “A girl I met online once had me ride a bus for two hours to quote, ‘see a band.’ It turns out it was her current boyfriend’s band playing in a Mexican pizzeria. She sat his in lap and they made out in front of me. Later, she asked me to stay over. I opted for the $60 cab ride home.”

    https://us.macmillan.com/author/jenniferwright/

    • Replies: @Forbes
  219. Rosie says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I wasn’t endorsing this view. Online feminists are nasty, disturbed pieces of work who take extreme enjoyment in the psychic pain of ordinary men. Having a human reaction to having been rejected is, well, human.

    True, but then it’s also human to have a human reaction to having someone pretend to be sincerely interested in getting to know you when really they just want to get in your pants. Just sayin’.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @ScarletNumber
  220. Rosie says:
    @Kylie

    If you’re looking for sororal solidarity, you’re in the wrong place.

    Actually, you’re in the wrong place here regardless of what you’re looking for.

    Aw. How cute. Stan gave you a pat on the head for being a good girl. Isn’t that special?

  221. phil says:

    The lovable Whiskey notwithstanding, I doubt that she really wants to hang out with black jocks. She regards this as a dream job, and if that means expressing the preferences of her paymasters in terms of Who?Whom?, then that’s what she’ll do.

  222. Brutusale says:
    @Steve Sailer

    We used to use Groupon (the girlfriend called it food stamps for the middle class) but they’ve really degenerated in the past couple of years. She now uses a site called Gilt, which has fewer really cheap bargains that used to be available on Groupon, but they have solid, more upscale stuff with decent discounts.

  223. @Rosie

    Both charisma (extraversion) and the ability to sustain prolonged concentration while working alone (introversion) would seem to be hard to come by in one person. Maybe Jarvis is the key.

    Both Feynman and von Neumann seem to have been very charismatic as well as world class thinkers. It’s true though that von N. was notorious for liking very noisy environments rather than quiet studies.

    • Replies: @Karl
  224. Brutusale says:
    @ChrisZ

    In the comments about the James story in the local rag I said that “serious clothes” James looked like the illegitimate love child of Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan. My comment triggered a few moonbats.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  225. @ChrisZ

    Yeah, these are moral retards. It’s like a couple down’s kids finding love. Touching in a way, but not elite.

    Not close.

  226. @Rosie

    It’s never that simple.

    Also taking anything online feminists say at face value is hazardous to ones health.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  227. Brutusale says:
    @Rosie

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dear%20John%20Letter

    There’s even a name for the cuckolder, which, IIRC, I first saw in Michael Herr’s great Vietnam book Dispatches.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jody

    Where there’s smoke…

  228. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    But women get rejected too and don’t get as nasty as men about it. I was a thin girl who was a little plain in high school and got rejected A LOT- mostly by “good guys” and well-rounded smart guys, some of whom might have been considered nerds. But I simply adjusted my expectations- dated a slacker in college and was able to get him on the right track towards a career instead of smoking weed all day. Everything turned out great for me, together we are earning in the top 5-10 % income percentile for our age group and city.

    Men who go through the same thing get bitter and aren’t as quick to adjust their expectations. Nerds expect manic pixie dream girls and don’t like women who are as smart as them even if they profess otherwise. Regular guys have no problem with smart women so long as they’re in shape. Many nerdy millennial men stay single rather than settle. In normieville USA and not the large urban centers at the center of the pop culture universe, it’s the men who are picky.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  229. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    You have to distinguish between publicly expressed preferences and revealed preferences. When people express their preferences publicly, they are often lying for various reasons. In this case, because she thinks that expressing how much she LUUUUVES black jocks will help her career. People who are really stupid see this kind of advice in the media and they pattern their lives on it, not realizing that the doctor would never give this medicine to his own family – he/she only recommends it for YOURS.

    But when you look at her revealed preference, she is married to an ultra-nerd.

    Nerdy over-educated UMC urban hipster white chix are NOT settling down with big black jocks. They have nothing in common and the sexual thrill (if any) wears off pretty quickly. Maybe such women are, nowadays, “experimenting” before they get married (although not as much as you might imagine) but all but the stupidest ones know that the big black jock is not going to be around when it’s time to raise kids. More such couples exist in TV commercials (where they are constantly pushing miscegenation with blacks) than in real UMC life. In UMC world, there is miscegenation galore nowadays between nerdy WASPs and Jews, between nerdy Asians and WASPs and/or Jews , maybe even a little bit with nerdy blacks, but with black jocks – just not a thing.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  230. Brutusale says:
    @Corvinus

    My mother just found out from Ancestry.com that she has a few drops of converso blood, so fuck off, Crow, I’m in The Tribe!!!

    That said, only one of my Askie friends hasn’t been tarred by the shiksa cohort as being MeToo worthy. One was removed from home plate duties umping in a women’s softball league after being accused of excessive touching by a few catchers.

    You could always just consult any list of MeToo offenders: 2% of the US population, 75% of the gropers. They even own up to the problem.

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-jewish-world-s-metoo-crisis-is-much-deeper-than-shavit-and-cohen-1.6316456

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  231. @Brutusale

    James needs to dump the idiotic Taliban beard or admit that he is an Ummah member.

  232. Thea says:

    I speculate that there is an inverse relationship between how much she worries about being “sexually harrassed” and how much attention real men pay her.

  233. Brutusale says:
    @Truth

    Yeah, and they supply 100% of the money to build prisons, too. James’ should finance one of those to truly help his community!

    • Replies: @Truth
  234. Rosie says:
    @Desiderius

    Also taking anything online feminists say at face value is hazardous to ones health.

    I realize that, and I’m not saying these fake Nice Guys are any more conniving than other guys. Sometimes, they may be less so. They just don’t know how to hide it as well. I’m just talking about the human realities of the situation.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Desiderius
  235. JSM says:
    @g

    g, what Rosie says, is so, in my opinion.

    The He Man Woman Haters of the alt right who are expressing visceral hatred for White women

    either (a) got really badly burned in a love situation and the bitterness is seeping from every pore and are therefore pitiable

    or (b) are saying what they’re saying as click-bait (i.e., bullshitting for attention) and should be shamed for being anti-White.

    The Alt-Right, the ones who are sincere, anyway, about White Identity, have to recognize that without quality White women doing good jobs as mothers of White children created by sex with quality White men, White grown men of quality and ability won’t come into existence. And without those White women VOLUNTARILY being on board with being good mothers to their White children, the required good mothering won’t happen.

    We are a K-selected race: without quality, loving, intelligent White mothers, of their own volition doing right by their White children, there will be no Next Generation of Quality White Men. And they all know it, too.

    I love to troll the Manosphere for being anti-White-Men. It drives em nuts, lol.

    • LOL: L Woods
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  236. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    Disiderius, I quoted the wrong language. I was replying to:

    “It’s never that simple.”

    And I actually don’t agree. I think sometimes it is that simple, but not always. Maybe not even most of the time. I’ve been giving this matter considerable thought lately.

  237. @Lagertha

    “Whiskey has always been correct”

    Not really. He makes a statistical tendency (“on average, women dislike x”) into an Iron Law (” women hate hate hate x”), whereas he’s the complete opposite and ultra-nuanced when it come to the Scots-Irish question.

    But on average, he’s correct about women. Or, he’s correct about the average woman.

  238. Rosie says:
    @AndrewR

    It’s ok. You can still find hot alphas on Tinder to pump and dump you.

    Oh dear I touched a nerve.

    I don’t need any dating services. I’m happily married …to a perfectly charming nerd.

  239. @Pat Boyle

    the Nazis knew the American Black Code but Montgomery became a genius when the Allies broke Enigma

    The Nazis were chill and spoke jive. The Allies kept the black man down.

  240. @Kylie

    I like Rosie being here. She don’t take no guff, and she’s usually right.

    Regarding some of the flak from men Rosie gets here on Unz, I agree with commenter “Spisarevski” from another forum (#512):

    It has come to my attention that there are wamen in this here blog …

    There is a happy middle between being a white knight/cuck/biological denialist and being a bitter misogynist.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  241. Eagle Eye says:
    @Jack D

    Darymple said that one of the functions of totalitarian propaganda is humiliation – you print obvious baldfaced lies in order to rub it in to the powerless that there is nothing that they can do about it – that they are so powerless that they just have to grin and bear it because if they try to speak out against the lies you will crush them like a bug.

    Very important point, but Dalrymple himself acknowledges that it goes back to the Marquis de Custine in his La Russie en 1839. Custine noted that Russians were required to feign ignorance of the palace where Catharine the Great had her husband murdered (IIRC).

    Of course, one cannot feign ignorance without KNOWING.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Custine

  242. @Jack D

    “Nerdy over-educated UMC urban hipster white chix are NOT settling down with big black jocks.”

    I give you Ms Decca Aitkenhead of the Guardian and now Sunday Times.

    “Tony was our neighbour, and a lifelong criminal who had spent much of his childhood behind bars; in his teens, he was sentenced at the Old Bailey to 14 years for gun crime. Loud, charismatic and good-looking, he was the kind of character anyone would want to have at their party. But to make a life with him? When I walked out of my marriage and we set up home together, everyone thought I must have lost my mind.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/26/disaster-movie-day-partner-drowned-decca-aitkenhead-breast-cancer

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Jack D
  243. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    Okay. So what is the rate of black adults, 21 and over?

    • Replies: @res
  244. L Woods says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Sadly, thirsty old simps like you don’t occupy said middle ground.

  245. Forbes says:
    @Whiskey

    What’s fascinating is that nerds don’t sexually harass women. So-called nerds are socially awkward, can’t read a woman’s verbals clues as signals of disinterest, and so they oftentimes persist. If there is one thing women hate, hate, hate, it’s a male with low SMV (by definition, a nerd) actively attempting to gain the woman’s attention and interest. That’s women’s definition of sexual harassment.

    Jocks, and other dominant males, don’t patiently listen and commiserate–except to sit and wait for you (the woman) to finish yammering. And then move on. For some reason, women are of the belief that men are just as interested in what they have to complain about as their girlfriends are, as when women do their bonding by sharing stories with each other. Men don’t–and most consider it a form of torture.

    And to husbands out there, sorry if I’ve stepped on your toes–marital discourse appears to be an individually negotiated and imposed proposition. Congratulations if you’ve managed it to your satisfaction.

  246. AndrewR says:
    @Jack Hanson

    Sharia would be an improvement over the degeneracy promoted by Fellow Whites. Please get over your monomania against me.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  247. Corvinus says:
    @Brutusale

    “My mother just found out from Ancestry.com that she has a few drops of converso blood, so fuck off, Crow, I’m in The Tribe!!!”

    I thought full Jew constitutes “The Tribe”–but there’s always the wannabes and the leeches in every group I suppose. It’s all about the gimmedats, right? Maybe if your mum pays a few shekels or bakes some lekach for the fund drive.

    “That said, only one of my Askie friends hasn’t been tarred by the shiksa cohort as being MeToo worthy. One was removed from home plate duties umping in a women’s softball league after being accused of excessive touching by a few catchers.”

    Yeah, I read that story in Sports Illustrated.

    “You could always just consult any list of MeToo offenders: 2% of the US population, 75% of the gropers. They even own up to the problem.”

    Can’t read your link. Must be a subscriber. And not all or most Jews are rapists, just like not all or most Serbians are thuggish, or just like all or most Russians are drunks. But I suppose the Coalition of the Fringes LOVE their stereotypes. It’s not just for breakfast anymore.

  248. Corvinus says:
    @JSM

    “We are a K-selected race…”

    Thanks for the pseudo-science.

    So, hotshot, what constitutes “quality white men and women”?

    “I love to troll the Manosphere for being anti-White-Men.”

    Well, that’s one redeeming quality.

  249. Forbes says:
    @Bill B.

    You’re probably right. No one, I mean no one asks, “what’s the worst date you ever heard”? They asked her about her worst date, and she offered a story that her now-husband told her–so they altered the question for print.

  250. @Steve Sailer

    He looks like the illegitimate son of Rod Rosenstein.

  251. @YetAnotherAnon

    I give you Ms Decca Aitkenhead of the Guardian and now Sunday Times.

    The husband was at most 1/4 black. Obama is blacker than this lady’s deceased husband.

    • Replies: @Truth
  252. njguy73 says:
    @Corn

    And half the players in the NFL and NBA have had a business failure due to some black-sheep cousin or idiot friend roping them into starting a restaurant or nightclub, and taking a bath.

    • Agree: Corn
  253. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous

    Parents are of the generation that started the hyphenated, combined names nonsense.

    Gotta love the feminist logic behind hyphenating the groom’s and the bride’s surname upon their marriage–the surname of both fathers.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  254. @Anonymous

    Bill Gates got the short end of the stick. His father is at least 6’5″; he’s no more than 5’10″.

    The ideal sperm donor is a guy who earns like Gates and looks like Joe Manganiello, or maybe like Santa’s husband:

  255. res says:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t see it broken down that way. I think the sex and decade age groups are plenty to make an informed judgment. I was most surprised by:
    - Black males 20-29 at ~20%, lower than I would have guessed.
    - Black females much higher than males across the board.

  256. Forbes says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I would said ‘bespoke’ instead of ‘artisanal’…

  257. @ThreeCranes

    How about have some white babies. Every white conservative needs to have at least three children, to replace themselves and also to expand their cohort.

    Hooking up is nice and all, but the stake of the race is more important.

  258. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous

    Apparently, they cannot churn this garbage out fast enough…

  259. L Woods says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The defining characteristic of a nerd is neither intelligence nor sensitivity, but an impenetrable off-beat egotism.

    Takes one to know one, apparently.

  260. Jack D says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Some UMC chicks got jungle fever but most don’t. Of course even fewer white men do since most black chicks nowadays are land whales.

  261. Forbes says:
    @Jack D

    We all know that black athletes are famous for treating women respecfully.

    I hear told that Ray Rice appears in a video demonstrating this…

  262. @Rosie

    Yeah, what you’re describing does happen, but there were a reasonably large sized chunk of men (including of course yours truly) with normal sex drives who were taught that a gentleman doesn’t worry about getting in the pants until later in the process.

    The betrayal they were feeling and expressing had to do with them being penalized for that approach, not with some imaginary entitlement to sex.

    Most of us found Roissy or similar and adjusted our approach. Now happily married with young twins, which is what I was looking for all along, pants or no pants.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  263. @L Woods

    Oh yeah, hooked one right quick! :)

    thirsty old simps

    Sheeeeiiiittt, L Woods bags all the bitches. Yo I mean literally, dawg. (#221)

  264. Forbes says:
    @Cuck

    WTF? Public acknowledgment? And 65 likes!

  265. @Anonymous

    “Real men who do actual man stuff aren’t interested in nerd girls. Surfer dudes want surfer chicks not beach bunnies. Peg-scraping bikers don’t want a pillion warmer, they want a biker girl who thinks the Crest or Ortega is an easy 100mph road and proves it riding her Yamaha YZF-R1. Off-trail mountain backpackers want a girl who can heft an external frame pack loaded with gear and grub and boulder hop upslope for miles.”

    As others have pointed out, there aren’t enough such girls to go round. I’ve known a fair number of bikers, sailors, climbers and off-trail backpackers – and most are happy if the pillion/galley/base camp lady is decorative and personable. The last time I surfed, some 25 years back, there were some 50 people (nearly all male) in the waves, and 300 people in surf gear in the local pubs.

  266. Iberiano says:
    @Anonymous

    With that kind of pedigree, and public face, they are often the ones that write on their blog a few years after alleged marital bliss, something like, “I was the very last person that I thought would ever divorce…” And a few paragraphs down, the insert the real meat of the public admission…“so all that’s left really is for Kevin and me to handle the messy financial details…my friends (and a couple free offers of attorneys, if you know what I mean!) tell me to go for blood, but that’s so not me…I know Kevin is going to do the right thing…”

    If Kevin doesn’t take the hint and do the “right thing” we get the later narrative…“I was the last person I thought would have to get down and dirty to fight for what I deserve…I was the last person that thought I would have to demand supervised visits for my ex-husband…I was the last person who thought I would have write a book about my experiences…”

  267. Forbes says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Go to Ski Country/Rocky Mountains, Colorado and the male/female ratio is ~8/1, and half the women either look like men or want to be one-of-the-guys (and they f*ck like the guys). Not a model for relationships.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  268. Joe Walker says: • Website
    @njguy73

    Dave Chappelle once said of #BlueLivesMatter, “Police can take off the blue, but I can’t take off the black.”

    Most of the problems that blacks love to complain about would disappear if they would just stop breaking the law.

    https://tenor.com/view/law-gif-5203220

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  269. megabar says:
    @anonymous coward

    > because [genetic] regression to the mean is a real thing

    I keep hearing people say this, but I don’t understand the logic.

    Let’s say a person is very much above average in a polygenic trait. Therefore, they have a higher-than-average number of positive alleles for said trait. I don’t see any reason why their child wouldn’t be more likely to be gifted, even if they are also likely to be less gifted than their parent.

    That is, yes, regression to the mean is likely, but it’s still better than having an average parent.

    Sometimes people use this argument to claim that out-of-race-breeding is less likely to be successful. That is, perhaps the alleles you have might not pair well with alleles from your partner, even if they are also gifted, because what causes the giftedness is different in each ethnicity. However, even if that’s true, it also seems possible that this would _increase_ the chance of giftedness.

    That is, perhaps it comes down to how many copies of an allele are necessary. If one is good enough, it seems like out-of-race-breeding of two gifted people is _more_ likely to create giftedness, since you have more loci that might receive a beneficial allele, as the beneficial trait comes from different sets of loci in each parent. However, if two copies are needed, then I would agree that it is harder to get the necessary two copies from parents who are from different populations.

    The post I’m replying to seems to imply the second scenario. An average person of good breeding is likely to be a carrier of many unpaired beneficial alleles. That’s plausible to me, but I don’t see why it must be true. I would not at all be surprised to find out that it’s actually a mix. So depending on which alleles you have, either sticking to your own ethnicity, or not (assuming similar levels of giftedness), could be beneficial. That is, it’s practically impossible to predict at this time.

    I would be curious if there’s any data about this.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  270. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Which means even less and less.

    Boomers unable to get with the times ITT.

  271. @Anonymous

    I have an idea for a movie where a nerdy Steve Urkel-type black teenager (with an attractive Zoe Saldana-ish sister) wakes up one morning and finds himself in Opposite World Detroit, where all of the racial stereotypes are reversed.

    His sister now has a huge fetish for the tall, muscular, white players on the school’s state-championship basketball team. She describes her lust as “ice fever” – “The colder the ice, the hotter the burn.”

    He finds that *all* of the desirable black girls are throwing themselves at the virile white and Asian jocks. The only female who will give him the time of day is a 300-pound white landwhale with unbearable BO and horrendous acne. Not even the thirstiest beta black guys will touch her with a ten-foot pole.

    To his dismay, he learns that this creature has an unrequited crush on him. She soon begins stalking him 24/7. He spends much of his free time trying to ditch her.

    Our hero endures many misadventures, culminating in his being hospitalized after a vicious attack by a roving gang of rabid Japanese refugees. While he is lying in his hospital bed, drugged into a stupor, the 300-pound landwhale comes in and … impregnates herself.

    “Now you’re mine,” she tells him. “If you don’t buy me a ring, I’ll tell the police that you raped me. They’ll send you to prison. Do you know what they do to short, nerdy black guys in prison?”

    Despondent over his fate, he jumps off the Ambassador Bridge. After seeing a bright light, he expects to find himself in Hell. To his surprise, he discovers that he is back in our world, in his family’s home in Grosse Pointe. Then he realizes that our world is Hell, and that Detroit is the lowest circle of it.

    The next day, at school, he meets a homely white girl who bears a striking resemblance to the 300-pound landwhale. He works up the nerve to ask her to the prom.

    “Get lost, loser,” she says … and then walks over to her boyfriend, a hulking black football player. When she tells him that “That nerd was hitting on me,” the boyfriend walks over to our hero and beats him to an inch of his life.

    He sees another bright light … and then finds himself standing back on the Ambassador Bridge in Opposite World. The landwhale pulls up in her car, rolls down her window, and says, “Get in! We’re almost late for my prenatal appointment!”

    The nerd looks over the railing … then looks back at the car … then looks back at the water … then walks over to the car, opens the door, and gets in.

    And so our story ends.

    Should I write the novel first, or skip right to the screenplay?

    • Replies: @Truth
  272. Forbes says:
    @ChrisZ

    Clickbait pornography or clickbait porn. Supplying the itch that needs to be scratched…

  273. @AndrewR

    It’s ok. You can still find hot alphas on Tinder to pump and dump you.

    Unlike you, who could not get a date with rescue dog in heat.

  274. @L Woods

    Sadly, thirsty old simps like you don’t occupy said middle ground.

    So saith the bitter misogynist.

  275. @L Woods

    ID wrote:

    The defining characteristic of a nerd is neither intelligence nor sensitivity, but an impenetrable off-beat egotism.

    L Woods wrote:

    Takes one to know one, apparently.

    Well, L Woods, as you have neither intelligence nor sensitivity, and you have above average egotism, your post is apt.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  276. Anonymous[439] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson

    You’re short though, aren’t you?

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  277. Truth says:
    @Brutusale

    White people fall all over themselves to build them in their communities, and invite blacks from other places.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289

  278. Rosie says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Many nerdy millennial men stay single rather than settle. In normieville USA and not the large urban centers at the center of the pop culture universe, it’s the men who are picky.

    This seems to be the crux of the dispute. The manosphere types are convinced that women have unreasonable expectations. This certainly wasn’t true when I was young, and I’m skeptical that it’s true now.

    I hear endless kvetching about women thinking 80% of men are “below average” in looks. Suppose they said 50% of men were “below average” in looks. That’s still 50% of men who are going to have to admit to themselves that they are below average, and are going to have to settle for a below-average mate. I suspect that nowhere near 50% of men are willing to do this.

    And why should they? They have access to porn on demand and cheap fast food.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  279. Rosie says:
    @Desiderius

    Most of us found Roissy or similar and adjusted our approach. Now happily married with young twins, which is what I was looking for all along, pants or no pants.

    So glad to hear that.

  280. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    In that Finnegans Wave surfing memoir I read by William Finnegan, none of the girlfriends of the author or his surf buddies were surfers of any seriousness.

    Sure. The operative phrase is “of any seriousness.”
    A beach bunny is a girl who doesn’t surf at all. Such women are at a disadvantage in even meeting the surfers, let alone establishing a relationship with them, because the surfers are out on the water.

    A girl who actually likes being out on the water and surfs will get to know and become friends with these guys and they will invite her to hang out with them. That’s much less likely to happen with a beach bunny, even though beach bunnies definitely outnumber surfer girls by far.
    All this is true of street-racing bikers, sky divers, wilderness adventurers …. you name it. Men vastly outnumber women in such endeavors, but the women who do enjoy these activities have access to such men that women who don’t participate, do not.
    Incidentally, I notice some commenters asserting women who enjoy these sports are “masculine” in physique. Some may be, but many others are not. Tastes differ, but I don’t think Shelina Moreda is particularly masculine:

    Nor do I think Erica Hosseini is very masculine, either.

    In any case, commenters with thousands of posts on this site alone pretty much fit the dictionary definition of nerds and are probably not spending much time backdooring tubes or beveling footpegs and don’t hang out with those who do — and would not be welcome if they tried to.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  281. Svigor says:

    Whiskey just spins this as a race cuck issue as he has for a decade because he cannot bring himself to cancel his blacked.com porn subscription. The inter-racial issue here is simply driven by (((The Narrative))) but if the narrative wasn’t there the girl would still be chasing Chad Thundercock while Herbie McHerbitude was at home paying the bills. There is nothing new under the sun.

    Not if society was calling her a whore. That seems to be what the PUA crowd doesn’t acknowledge; women’s low agency. What is paramount to women is what society thinks of them, not vag tingles.

  282. @Anonymous

    Similarly, football players are notoriously lacking in girlfriends because girls don’t play football. Football players disparage cheerleaders as “sideline bunnies” who don’t have the courage to get out on the field and play football.

    Likewise, in “The Right Stuff,” none of the test pilots and astronauts have wives or girlfriends because that’s what they valued in a woman: somebody with the Right Stuff to walk away from an experimental jets whose tail came off at Mach 2.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  283. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    And why should they? They have access to porn on demand and cheap fast food.

    I think most men would gladly trade that for a ’50s style, sex on demand and homecooked meals providing housewife.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Almost Missouri
  284. TheBoom says:

    Conclusions:
    Ms. Kibblesmith made the smart financial decision to marry a connected man with money even if he doesn’t sexuality excite her. However, that doesn’t mean she is happy with it. (And given his book on Santa’s husband maybe that wasn’t part of the package,) Like almost all women, she is hypergamous and really wants to mate with only the most dominant man.

    She may be already testing the market. I have seen studies that suggest women seek a dominant alpha when they are menstruating. Maybe this article was written during that time of the month.

    Predictions:
    As her star ascends, her urge to dump Kibblesmith – a man whose name sounds like the owner of a dog food company and who looks like its accountant – and seek a more high status alpha will increase. She needs to do that soon though because she only has a few more years to grab an alpha stud.

    While she virtue signals about black jocks, she will probably just have flings with them, if given the chance, and seek a white or Jewish alpha for marriage.

  285. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    sex on demand

    They can keep the porn.

  286. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    A million white guys have started schools, but how much do you hear about that?

    • Replies: @Truth
  287. @Forbes

    Winston Spencer-Churchill might disagree.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Forbes
  288. Truth says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Oh, so you’d recommend him to your sister?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  289. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    I guess that would explain why so many black guys walk around with their hand on their junk

  290. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:
    @Illuminati111

    That makes no sense. Gay men in their circle don’t need sham marriages to beards – they are celebrated.

  291. Truth says:
    @Stan Adams

    You’ve put a little too much time into this, rather personal, fantasy of yours, Stanley:

    Seek help.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  292. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    Well now, Old Sport, when Tom Brady starts one, I have a fairly good idea we will.

  293. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, but Churchill ended up with that for different reasons. The recent hyphenated, combined name thing is a feminist thing. England was typically strict about primogeniture, but the original Churchill who was entitled as the Duke of Marlborough had no sons, and one of his daughters managed to finagle the title for one of her sons, who had the surname Spencer. That son’s grandson inherited the title and became heavily indebted, and in order to improve his reputation, changed his name and added Churchill to it. So Winston Churchill ended up with his name due to greed and self-interest, rather than feminism.

  294. TheBoom says:

    I wonder if her article was written out of fear that her marriage announcement sent out the wrong message? So, did she manage to get paid to send out an open to affairs with studs announcement?

    NYT was probably interested because Trump is having an ongoing Twitter war with NFL players and it is an opportunity to make the typical black jock seem virtuous in comparison to low status whites (not Jewish investment bankers).

  295. Lurker says:
    @The Gentlemanly Ray Rice

    Jeongian Knot of Envy

    Lol, well played sir!

  296. Lurker says:
    @AndrewR

    If she had been white and the killer black, which famous celebrities would have raised money for her?

    None and most likely no one would have heard of her death anyway.

  297. Truth says:
    @AndrewR

    If she had been white and the killer black, which famous celebrities would have raised money for her?

    My educated guess would be; the same number of whiny, “duh man alwayze be holdn’ me down” Unzistas who would have sent money to her family’s Go Fund Me account.

  298. Dnought says:

    ****** White Men”, especially nerds, seems to be a trend for these female mediocrities to be riffing on lately.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-left-wing-harassment-campaign-against-ruby-roses-lesbian-batwoman

    You can’t parody this stuff.

    I suspect Ms. Wright is not a sports fan. Until recently Pro Football Talk had a days “Days without an arrest” counter on its website (I wonder if they took it down because …..”Racism”). It rarely got into double digits.

  299. @Anonymous

    “sex on demand”

    As married guys of any longevity would tell you, if this is why you got married, you’re doing it wrong.

  300. @Truth

    Oh, so you’d recommend him to your sister?

    A person of good character of any color, who treats my sister well? Sure. I’m not a Jim Crow racist. I don’t care about miscegenation and all that jazz.

    There’s a broad variety of commenters on this blog, ranging from borderline Stormfronters to far left progressives like Tiny Duck. I’m what they would call a neocon. I don’t care about race except when it’s used to create non-optimal outcomes for a society that is becoming more black and more Hispanic. The existing race/ethnic quotas will become a huge drag on this country when blacks and Hispanics reach 50% of the population. Given that existing quotas seem pretty entrenched, it would behoove us to actively keep down black and Hispanic immigration just to prevent the enlargement of what is now an under-performing aristocratic class.

  301. @Anonymous

    What do you think the manosphere gets wrong?

    I don’t think “wrong” is the proper way to approach the subject. The most pernicious ideas are not those which are demonstrably incorrect, but those that can seem plausibly consistent with the known facts while nevertheless concealing and/or promoting lapses in the faculty of judgment (i.e. category mistakes). The Manosphere is one of those.

    One example I used before is that of “magical arithmetic.” If I say that 2+2=4, I speak correctly. However, if I go on to tell you that this statement is true because Arabic numerals are divinely inspired glyphs that cannot utter falsities, I have transgressed the boundaries of truth. Empirical statements that something is true are not sufficient for knowledge. We also require some understanding of why it is true.

    As a more pertinent example, let us take the simple statement that “audacity conquers all.” Would a true Machiavellian give this advice to an aspiring prince? Would the best way to gain a kingdom be to simply saunter up the reigning monarch and slay him? In general, is power gained and kept by the sole expedient of being as reckless as possible?

    This certainly is a strategy that might work, up to a point. But it is also a strategy that might fail spectacularly on its very first attempt. After all the king has guards and they are alert for this sort of thing. A true Machiavellian would say that, while in most cases there does seem to be a bias in favor of action over inaction, one cannot say beforehand whether a bold approach or a cautious one is more likely to obtain the prize, not without knowing the specifics of the concrete situation. The question of boldness versus cautiousness presents us with a false dilemma. Either approach might work, but the trick s having the prudence to know which one to use and when.

    “Game” is closely analogous here. The entire philosophy of the Manosphere reduces to the notion that in order to bed women, one must mac as hard and as shamelessly as possible while ignoring rejection and constantly improving one’s social skills.

    Again, this will certainly work up to a point, but not for the reasons that “Game” stipulates. It will work because most women would like to be with a man anyway, and any man who presents himself to them will have at least some chance of being chosen. Do this enough times and you’ll eventually land yourself a woman. File that under “No shit, Sherlock.” The question here is whether the stipulated reasons—evolutionary biology, “women love sexy bad boys,” etc.—have anything to do with the matter. They don’t. Any casual observation of the world around you will reveal all manner of men and women getting together for all sorts of reasons. The Manosphere does not really seek to delve into this vast subject in order to clarify it. It picks a few facts and uses them to sell you the magical arithmetic.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Rosie
  302. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    WOW. Talk about dashed status from photo to IRL.
    Her charm level: 3/10

  303. @AndrewR

    Get over your autism and stop looking at everything in black or white and parroting terms you don’t get.

    Besides, Ms. Harrison’s history exam is no joke, I hear. You should be studying or you’ll never make it outta 10th grade.

  304. @Rosie

    Depends on which brothers you’re talking about. If you mean the “woman’s place is in the home/kitchen/etc” types, then the word you’re looking for is “marriageable.” ;)

    Also, for the record: Whisky is wrong about basically everything.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  305. @Intelligent Dasein

    Sometimes what you say is intelligent, and sometimes it’s just there. This one leans toward the latter.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  306. @Truth

    Actually, Truth, I wrote it with you in mind. I’ve always imagined you as an ultra-geeky Oreo.

    Besides, writing is cathartic. I can crap these things out in five, ten, fifteen minutes tops, depending on how many distractions there are in my immediate environment. It’s the mental equivalent of throwing food at the wall to see what sticks.

    It seems that my little scenario stuck in your craw. Interesting.

  307. anonymous[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Well said. I’m a female who has been involved with various sports over the years, some of them extreme and I put a lot of effort to achieve a high level in one of them. And, yes, I’m more masculine than feminine but it doesn’t have anything to do with looks, more involving mentality and interests. Relationships are complicated. In my experience, men tend to settle down with a helpmate who is interested in the household and raising the kids, while he’s off on a climbing weekend or expedition. Complementary is the key as well as compromise. I had always thought it was ideal to have a relationship with someone with identical interests but one’s interests can and do change over time. Mine certainly did and still does. I ended up with a husband who’s complementary and a nurturing homebody but he’s also world class in his field.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  308. @Rosie

    Who says they weren’t sincerely interested in getting to know them?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  309. Rosie says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Who says they weren’t sincerely interested in getting to know them?

    The trouble with nerds of a certain type is that they’re not sincerely interested in getting to know anyone. They are not interested in people. They’re interested in things. When someone is sincerely interested in getting to know you because they want sex, even if in the context of a lifelong relationship, it’s the same as if they weren’t interested in getting to know you at all.

    If they were honest with themselves, many of these guys would have to admit that what they really want are lifelike sex dolls. There is not enough sugar in Paula Deen’s pantry to make that medicine go down.

  310. Rosie says:
    @anonymous

    In my experience, men tend to settle down with a helpmate who is interested in the household and raising the kids, while he’s off on a climbing weekend or expedition.

    Wow, that is one of the most unflattering comments about men I’ve seen on this site, though I realize you didn’t mean it that way.

    For my own part, I would never have been willing to have a large family if I had reason to believe that I would be, essentially, a single mother with a steady income stream. When you are a grown man, you go out to play with your children, and hopefully a buddy and his children. You don’t go out to play with the big boys and leave your wife to care for the children by herself morning and night, day after day!

  311. Rosie says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Personally, if all the manosphere concerned itself with was helping men find relationships, I’d have no objection to it. The problem is they concoct ridiculous theories about women’s nature and then, without any evidence to support these theories, they use them to justify radical restrictions on women’s rights.

  312. Rosie says:
    @Buster Keaton's Stunt Double

    Depends on which brothers you’re talking about. If you mean the “woman’s place is in the home/kitchen/etc” types, then the word you’re looking for is “marriageable.”

    Good sir, I’m afraid you couldn’t be more wrong.

    Whiskey says women love black men and hate, hate, hate White betas.

    Lagertha and Kylie say Whiskey is correct.

    What does that tell you about Lagertha and Kylie?

  313. @The Man From K Street

    There may be a reason why Keith Ellison is not running for re-election to Congress but rather for Minnesota AG.

    State AGs are in charge of elections. Al Franken originally lost his first Senate election until the Ds recounted the votes until he won. A poll worker found a couple thousand votes in her car trunk. This was all copacetic with the AG who was, of course, a D.

    One of Soros’s pet projects, and a clever one, is to get Ds elected as AGs for just this reason. State AGs have a lot of power.

  314. @Desiderius

    You’re not the measuring rod of value here, Desi. Don’t take that condescending tone with me. Have you got an argument, a point to make, or what?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Desiderius
  315. @Anon

    “If he gave his own money, what about all the other good causes, hmmm?”

    And before the other good causes, the PR firm wants to be sure he still has enough money to pay the continuing retainers for the PR firm.

  316. anonymous[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Considering the vile actions emanating from Silicon Valley liberal nerds these days, it’s about time for a backlash. They are high functioning sociopaths, men and women both.

  317. Rosie says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    ID, I think you have to interpret Desi’s comments in light of the fact that manosphere Game worked for him.

    Now, I’d like to follow up with you on your suggestion that Game may work for reasons the manosphere luminaries don’t understand. I’m not sure if that’s exactly true, but I think there may be something to it. Here’s what I mean.

    Manospherians are obsessed with this notion of female Hypergamy, but I don’t think they understand exactly how it works and why.

    Imagine two women. One is offended and put off by a sense that a man is interested in her primarily for her youth/beauty. The other is not. Who is more likely to secure a mate that will stick with her over the long term? I would say the former. We are programmed, by evolution or design, to seek out mates that are attracted to us for more enduring characteristics.

    Now, the best-looking men are doubly blessed in this respect. First of all, their good looks are attractive in their own right. Second, their attractiveness gives them many options. This provides assurances to the selected mate that she has been selected for reasons particular to her! I cannot emphasize how important this is to women. I know it’s not fair, but it is a fact.

    Men who are not as good-looking or otherwise appealing to women as mates are going to have to work harder at this. We don’t want a man who thinks we’re hot chicks with an acceptable character and personality. We want a man who thinks we are acceptably attractive with an interesting personality. That is, we want exactly what men usually are not. There is no help for this but for women to try to be more understanding of men’s limitations, and for men to at least try to be a little less superficial in their approach to finding a mate.

  318. Karl says:
    @kaganovitch

    236 Kaganovich > Feynman

    Feynman did ok, but he was as nothing compared (pussy-magnet-wise) to Einstein

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  319. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    Further reflections:

    You will often here manospherians state the following:

    (1) Men are entitled to a mate “at their level” of physical attractiveness.
    (2) Women age faster, and lose their SMV, sooner than men.
    (3) Men choose a partner based on youth and beauty.

    If you put all of these statements together, you can see that these men raise a red flag to any woman concerned about her long-term well-being. They are, in fact, advertising themselves as an abandonment risk, quite likely to breach their marital vows, which are, to refresh the reader’s memory:

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Dtbb
  320. @Intelligent Dasein

    It was an allusion to your handle.

    That said your wrongness on this question is a feature of reality apart from our relative standing. If you’re dissatisfied take it up with that reality, not me.

  321. @megabar

    I was hoping for someone better versed than I am to respond, but since there are no takers yet, here is how I understand regression to the mean.

    Your “score” in a trait, say height, depends on alleles, but it also somehow depends on the underlying chromosomes. The analogy is dice. You want to roll a high score, but you have a better chance of rolling a high score if you have more dice to roll. So if you see someone who is 72″ tall, you don’t know if he “rolled” 12 dice and got six on all of them (lucky) or if he rolled 20 dice and got threes and fours (average luck but “good genes”). But if you look back at his family history and his extended family (a.k.a., “race”) and see that most of them are tall, you can surmise that his bloodline has more than the average number of dice to roll for height, so his kids are probably going to be tall too. Conversely, if his ancestors and race are all average or short, you can conclude that the 72″ man was just lucky in his height and that his kids are going to regress to the ancestral or racial mean. So in the latter case, if his spouse was expecting his height to pass on to her kids, she will be disappointed to find that trait disappears like fairy gold with the next generation.

    Re outbreeding vigor and outbreeding depression, yes, both exist though this seems contradictory. Wikipedia will be more helpful than I could be.

  322. @Forbes

    Someone with a heinous daughter should encourage her to move to a ski town. A friend of mine has a daughter that is ugly enough to make a freight train take a dirt road. Out of proportion features, built like an NFL lineman. To be fair she is very sweet and has a great sense of humor…she moved to a ski town about 15 years ago and ended up marrying a good-looking guy that owns a very successful restaurant. I’ve met her husband numerous times – a really nice guy that is, as far as I can tell, not blind. The 8:1 (or worse) ratio you mentioned does wonders for a woman’s SMV.

    They have 3 daughters that are inexplicably beautiful.

  323. @Rosie

    I think this is a good distaff summary of Roissy-ism. I also think that just as you posit two women with differing tastes in men, one could posit two men with differing tastes in women. Some men really do consider traits other than youth/beauty to be most important for mating.

    And the membership in the two groups can shift with time. I know quite a few attractive/successful men who chose to settle down with women who were not the youth/beauty peak of the man’s dating history, but who were, frankly, just better people than the “peak youth/beauty” women were. There is always someone prettier out there, but there is not always someone better for you out there. If you’ve found the better-for-you woman, and you are not (or no longer) driven by trophyist one-up-man-ship, you can probably stop looking. At a certain point, even men “with options” realize this.

    Or they don’t, and then you see the aging rake gradually shade into the dirty old man.

    In other words, I agree with you, but for slightly differing reasons.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  324. @Karl

    Really? I’m no expert on the subject, but I thought the opposite was true.

  325. Dtbb says:
    @Rosie

    Which sex starts most divorce proceedings? Oaths are two way streets.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  326. Forbes says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Elite (aristocratic) Brits having somewhat different surname conventions than feminism-influenced Americans.

  327. Rosie says:
    @Dtbb

    Which sex starts most divorce proceedings? Oaths are two way streets.

    I didn’t intend to suggest otherwise. Though, as I have said before, the person who files for divorce is not necessarily the person who is responsible for the breakdown of the marriage. A divorce filing may be a response to a prior abandonment rather than an abandonment itself.

  328. @Rosie

    Good sir, I’m afraid you couldn’t be more wrong.

    I’m afraid we’ve arrived at a place of mutual misunderstanding, LOL…

  329. @Rosie

    We are programmed, by evolution or design, to seek out mates that are attracted to us for more enduring characteristics.

    You are programmed, by evolution or design, to seek out mates that appear to possess the greatest potential for resource acquisition.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  330. @Rosie

    Personally, if all the manosphere concerned itself with was helping men find relationships, I’d have no objection to it.

    I really couldn’t care less whether you want to extend your imprimatur or not. Frankly, the fact that you’re opposed is something of a mark in its favour.

    The problem is they concoct ridiculous theories about women’s nature and then, without any evidence to support these theories…

    Problem is, these “ridiculous theories” accord far better to observable reality than anything our mothers, teachers, pastors, television or movies told us about women.

    …they use them to justify radical restrictions on women’s rights.

    Historically speaking, it’s unrestricted women’s rights that are radical. We indulge them to our civilization’s peril.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  331. @Corvinus

    Hush, boy, the grownups are talking.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  332. @Rosie

    If they were honest with themselves, many of these guys would have to admit that what they really want are lifelike sex dolls.

    If they were honest with themselves, many women would have to admit that what they really want are combination vibrator/ATM machines.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  333. Rosie says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    You are programmed, by evolution or design, to seek out mates that appear to possess the greatest potential for resource acquisition.

    You are wrong. Potential for resource acquisition is only half the story. It matters a great deal that those resources, once acquired, are dedicated to ourselves and our offspring and not someone else’s.

  334. Corvinus says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    You are a mere child when it comes women merely “programmed, by evolution or design, to seek out mates that appear to possess the greatest potential for resource acquisition”. In reality, people seek out mates for a number of reasons, one of which could be the acquiring of resources–material, spiritual, intellectual. Furthermore, there is nothing radical with the granting of liberties to women, especially if they are a citizen of a nation, by men. A civilization’s peril is not due squarely because females were afforded liberties; rather, it is the long-term decisions made by the people of that civilization that may endanger it.

    You are not going to turn back the calendar to 1955 or 1915, as the manosphere demands. I suggest you grow up!

  335. Rosie says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    I really couldn’t care less whether you want to extend your imprimatur or not. Frankly, the fact that you’re opposed is something of a mark in its favour.

    I really couldn’t care less that you couldn’t care less. I’ll say my peace regardless.

    Problem is, these “ridiculous theories” accord far better to observable reality than anything our mothers, teachers, pastors, television or movies told us about women.

    Problem is, “observable reality” is much broader than your own personal experience. That’s what empirical studies are for, like this one:

    https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/

    Historically speaking, it’s unrestricted women’s rights that are radical.

    So what?

    We indulge them to our civilization’s peril.

    You can’t just baldly assert that women’s rights are to blame for our peril. You need to provide some sort of evidence for it. If you’re going to enslave half the population, at a minimum you ought to do so only as a last resort.

  336. Rosie says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    If they were honest with themselves, many women would have to admit that what they really want are combination vibrator/ATM machines.

    We don’t need the vibrator, just the ATM machine. The thing is, the best assurance that the ATM machine will reliably “put out” over the long haul is a strong pair bond. Romance is a matter of survival for women.

  337. @Intelligent Dasein

    The culture does need to dispense with the figment of the nerd with the heart of gold, for this concept does not take adequate recognition of what a nerd actually is. The defining characteristic of a nerd is neither intelligence nor sensitivity, but an impenetrable off-beat egotism. The intellect of most nerds is usually of a rather mediocre sort, and underneath that kooky exterior you will generally find a person who is just as sensuous, just as self-absorbed, and just as unreflectively boorish as the stereotypical jock. …

    Dasein, I think that you’ve been looking at yourself in a mirror.

  338. Hail says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Her vocal inflections, eye movements, and rapid hand and head movements while speaking are reminiscent of Kramer in Seinfeld, just much less funny. Entertaining for a comic male character; very odd and off-putting for a young woman. At other points in the video she seems like a typical Seinfeld ditzy girlfriend, talks too much or has some breakupable quirk that would annoy George or Jerry and serve as a plot to an episode (how to break up with her).

  339. Hail says: • Website
    @Macumazahn

    What I find it interesting from that wedding announcement is that that Daniel Kibblesmith is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Kibble-Smith, i.e., a Mr. Kibble married a Miss Smith (or vice versa) and legally hyphenated their names, altering their own. They or Daniel himself chose to get rid of the hyphen for Daniel’s name and go with the brand new name Kibblesmith, which some Internet site says does not previously exist.

    This makes sense as an alternate way to do family names, except that too few names are as easily blendable as Kibble and Smith. Most names could still be blended, but would require some letters to be dropped for flow purposes.

    In the case of the President, his father was Fred Trump (b. 1905 to German-Protestant parents) and mother was Mary Anne MacLeod of Scotland (b. 1912, in US from 1929). Donald J. Trump, under such a naming convention (dropping the Mac which mans ‘son of’ anyway), could be Donald J. Trumpeod.

    Hillary (Mr. Rodham and Ms. Howell) could be Hillary Rodwell.

    Barack? How about Barack H. Dunhobama (somehow seems colorfully fitting of his mother’s personality).

  340. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Ms. Wright, having been married by the Universal Brotherhood Movement, Inc.,

    The Universal Great Brotherhood is a cultural, non governmental, non religious, non profit, non sectarian organization. This organization was founded in Caracas, Venezuela by Serge Raynaud de la Ferriere.”

    The founder dressed in all-white and looked like Jesus but was not apparently a typical cult leader claiming to be a reincarnation of Jesus or anything. Just bland universalism on a platter. AFAICT.

    Google News returns no results for the phrase “Universal Great Brotherhood,” which is odd in that it did appear in the NYT in 2017 in this wedding announcement.

    All else I find in my thirty seconds of googling is:

    Universal Great Brotherhood

    Headquarters: Pinesville, Louisiana

    This organization’s exempt status was automatically revoked by the IRS [in 1989] for failure to file a Form 990, 990-EZ, 990-N, or 990-PF for 3 consecutive years.

  341. @Corvinus

    You are a mere child when it comes women merely “programmed, by evolution or design, to seek out mates that appear to possess the greatest potential for resource acquisition”. In reality, people seek out mates for a number of reasons, one of which could be the acquiring of resources–material, spiritual, intellectual.

    Pot, kettle, etc, etc. It all goes back to provisioning for one’s potential offspring, ultimately.

    Furthermore, there is nothing radical with the granting of liberties to women, especially if they are a citizen of a nation, by men.

    “One thing about which fish know exactly nothing is water, since they have no anti-environment which would enable them to perceive the element they live in.”

    -Marshall McLuhan

    A civilization’s peril is not due squarely because females were afforded liberties

    Here, have a little more stuffing for that strawman of yours. ;)

    You are not going to turn back the calendar to 1955 or 1915, as the manosphere demands.

    LOL

    History runs in cycles, not in some imagined continuous and inevitable progression towards a smug liberal utopia. All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.

    I suggest you grow up!

    Cast the beam out of thine own eye, child…

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Anon
  342. @Rosie

    I really couldn’t care less that you couldn’t care less. I’ll say my peace regardless.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold’s_bridle
    ;)

    Problem is, “observable reality” is much broader than your own personal experience. That’s what empirical studies are for, like this one:

    To quote/paraphrase a certain Spaniard, I don’t think that means what you think it means…

    So what?

    Mass social dysfunction.

    You can’t just baldly assert that women’s rights are to blame for our peril. You need to provide some sort of evidence for it. If you’re going to enslave half the population, at a minimum you ought to do so only as a last resort.

    Given the historically anomalous nature of “women’s rights” as we know them today, the onus is on you to try and provide some sort of justification for this insanity.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Rosie
  343. The thing is, the best assurance that the ATM machine will reliably “put out” over the long haul is a strong pair bond. Romance is a matter of survival for women.

    Not when Uncle Sugar comes into the picture.

  344. Corvinus says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    “It all goes back to provisioning for one’s potential offspring, ultimately.”

    Smart on your end to backtrack after I corrected you.

    ““One thing about which fish know exactly nothing is water, since they have no anti-environment which would enable them to perceive the element they live in.”

    Your analogy for women just doesn’t work here, as women (fish) know exactly what is water (their environment), which enables them to perceive the element (surroundings) they live in because they, as humans, are able to think and process.

    “Here, have a little more stuffing for that strawman of yours.”

    No, I characterized your statement in its proper context. You just got outed and are flailing.

    “All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.”

    Not necessarily. Globalization, higher education levels, access to information, reliance on technology…all game changers.

  345. Rosie says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    Given the historically anomalous nature of “women’s rights” as we know them today, the onus is on you to try and provide some sort of justification for this insanity.

    Nope. We now have a 100-year track record of very sensible behavior under our belt. Most dramatically, November 2016.

  346. Smart on your end to backtrack after I corrected you.

    Good grief, you’re even more dense than you appear at first impression…

    Your analogy for women just doesn’t work here, as women (fish) know exactly what is water (their environment), which enables them to perceive the element (surroundings) they live in because they, as humans, are able to think and process.

    See above. I wasn’t referring to women. I was referring to *you*.

    No, I characterized your statement in its proper context. You just got outed and are flailing.

    And now you’re trying to turn it into a false dilemma fallacy.

    Not necessarily. Globalization, higher education levels, access to information, reliance on technology…all game changers.

    All context-dependent, fragile, work-intensive and soon to pass from this world, if present trends persist.

  347. @Rosie

    Nope. We now have a 100-year track record of very sensible behavior under our belt.

    You owe me a new desktop monitor.

  348. Rosie says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    Scold’s bridle

    Would it kill you to keep your BDSM fantasies to yourself in civilized company?

  349. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    You are a mere child when it comes women merely programmed

    WTF?

  350. MBlanc46 says:
    @Thomm

    It’s hardly anti-feminist to recognize that women are attracted to dominant, risk-taking men.

  351. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    That has nothing to do with what I said.
    I did not say beach bunnies could not meet surfers. I said they are at a disadvantage compared to women who surf.
    If you are a lawyer, your chances of becoming romantically involved with a lawyer are greater than if you are a doctor. That doesn’t mean that lawyers don’t become involved with doctors, or accountants or sales managers for that matter. But a lawyer has an advantage. This is not some stunning insight. It’s a fact. And it extends out to some adventure activities that women also participate in — skiing, bicycling, mountain running, tactical shooting, and so forth.
    If you like the kind of guy who enjoys tactical shooting and want to meet one, go join a club that teaches tactical shooting. You’ll meet some. That doesn’t mean the receptionist who checks memberships, or the waitress at the Denny’s down the street won’t meet some, too.
    What do football players and astronauts have to do with this?
    You are attempting to ridicule me for something I did not say and did not imply. Why?
    I just thought we were having a conversation.

  352. @Anonymous

    If 6’1 is short, weird anon stalker.

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