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From the Washington Post:

I came to this country 41 years ago. Now Trump is making me feel like I don’t belong here.

By Max Boot September 5 at 7:32 PM

Max Boot is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations …

I am white. I am Jewish. I am an immigrant. I am a Russian American. But until recently I haven’t focused so much on those parts of my identity.

For example, on March 2, 2016 Max Boot told the New York Times: “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump.”

I’ve always thought of myself simply as a normal, unhyphenated American.

For example, in Politico on March 2, 2016: “In a March 1 interview with Vox, Max Boot, a military historian at the Council on Foreign Relations who backed the Iraq War and often advocates a hawkish foreign policy, said that he, too, would vote for Clinton over Trump. “I’m literally losing sleep over Donald Trump,” he said. “She would be vastly preferable to Trump.”

Ever since I arrived here, along with my mother and grandmother, from Russia in 1976 at age 7, I have been eager to assimilate. And I’ve done a pretty good job of it. I don’t have any accent, and I haven’t written much about my origins — which, at any rate, don’t have much to do with my job, which is writing about military history and American national security policy.

Totally unrelated. ‏By the way, here’s tweet from Max Boot in March 2016 right after a Muslim terrorist attack on Brussels: “@MaxBoot, Problem in EU is failure to assimilate Muslim immigrants. US has done better job, but Trump attacks alienate Muslims & threaten security.”

More Max:

So people are often surprised to find out that I wasn’t born in the United States. When I tell them where I’m from, they often ask, “Were your parents diplomats?” Nope. My parents were Russian Jews who fled the oppression of the Soviet Union and found a haven in the Land of Opportunity.

But that didn’t seem to matter much. Until Donald Trump came along….

At one time it was easy to dismiss such sentiments as the ravings of a handful of marginal losers. That’s harder to do now that the president of the United States has embraced the far-right agenda. …

The announced end of DACA hit me particularly hard, because almost half of those affected arrived in the United States before their sixth birthday. In other words, they were about the same age I was when I came here. My family’s case was somewhat different in that we received legal status as refugees after arriving here, and in time we became citizens. Not even Trump and his nativist attorney general, Jeff Sessions, have yet figured out a way to strip naturalized American citizens of their legal status — although they’ve explicitly stated that they want to reduce legal immigration by 50 percent. …

The result of all this hate-mongering is that for the first time, I no longer feel like a “real” American. I now feel like an outcast, a minority. … Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.

That may be precisely what Trump and his most fervent supporters intend. They are redefining what it means to be an American. The old idea that anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American is out. A White House aide has even repudiated the words on the Statue of Liberty: “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” Instead, American-ness is being redefined in blood-and-soil terms. I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted as a boy in 1976. That is discomfiting for me, and a tragedy for America.

Uh, Max, you’re finally realizing about yourself what your skeptics noticed years ago.

America can only be worthy of Max Boot if it relentlessly invades the Boot family’s ancient ethnic enemies in the Old World. Since Max isn’t going to fight himself, to get enough boots on the ground, America must invite in mercenaries from the whole world to invade Max’s hereditary rivals. For example, from iSteve in 2005:

Invade-the-World-Invite-the-World Personified

Neocon Max Boot explains in the LA Times his latest brainstorm about how to turn the Republic into an Empire:

Uncle Sam Wants Tu: The military could ease its manpower shortage by letting foreigners join up.

I note that there is a pretty big pool of manpower that’s not being tapped: everyone on the planet who is not a U.S. citizen or permanent resident…

The military would do well today to open its ranks not only to legal immigrants but also to illegal ones and, as important, to untold numbers of young men and women who are not here now but would like to come. No doubt many would be willing to serve for some set period in return for one of the world’s most precious commodities — U.S. citizenship. Open up recruiting stations from Budapest to Bangkok, Cape Town to Cairo, Montreal to Mexico City. Some might deride those who sign up as mercenaries, but these troops would have significantly different motives than the usual soldier of fortune.

Hey, great idea, Max! It worked like a charm for the Roman Empire in the 5th Century AD.

Last year I wrote, “One main breakdown could be between those who want to hammer the rest of the world into being just like America and those who fear that trying to do that will only end up making America just like the rest of the world.” Boot is a particularly sinister exemplar of those whose overweening ambition would just end up making America as God-forsaken as the rest of the world.

Here’s a better idea: If we can’t find enough American citizens to start more stupid wars, then let’s not start them.

Imagine a Boot stamping on an American face — forever.

 
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  1. Why do (((they))) insist on destroying the countries that take them in? It wasn’t enough that his people destroyed Russia with communism?

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    • Replies: @Altai
    Don't forget when Summers, Geithner et al ransacked it with the help of local psychopaths after the fall of the Soviet Union, hence we have a strongman leader in Putin now, but this must be memory-holed. As must the fact that what was done to Russia in the 90s was a trial run for the policies currently unravelling the West.
    , @Opinionator
    Fear of assimilation.
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  2. Max Boot, Mr. Invade-The-World-Invite-The-World, Doesn’t Feel Like an American Anymore

    Feature, not bug.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    It would be glorious to see those like Max Boot leave this country and move to Israel. Both sides would be happier afterwards.
  3. Alden says:

    Go back to Russia Max Boot. Boot is the epitome of the people Dr MacDonald wrote about in “Culture of Critique”

    2017, 1917, 1887, Russian Jewish immigrants haven’t changed.

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    Alden, I'm actually okay with Jews, don't think much about Israel, but I'm like you: Go back to Russia, Max Boot. I know Steve's pumping things up here, but--God help us--if this freak has any following in Washington circles, and I'm sure he does, no wonder we're constantly in a state of "non-peace".

    I'm pretty sure I've heard influential British-born Americans repeating foreign policy sentiments similar to Boot's, as though they can't get that imprint of the onetime British Empire out of their heads.
    , @Dmitry134564
    Russian Jews in America are very conservative, and almost all voted for Trump.

    But don't let that get in the way of your silly conspiracy theories.
  4. Broski says:

    There’s no such thing as a Russian American, mofo.

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    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR

    There’s no such thing as a Russian American, [...]
     
    Humbled, I agree.
  5. Max Boot is definitely not a “Russian American”. I wouldn’t call him white either.

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    • Replies: @guest
    "Max Boot is definitely not a 'Russian American.'"

    Pale of Settlement-American? Parentheses-American?
    , @AndrewR
    Bolshevik-American
  6. Ivy says:

    Boot is a particularly sinister exemplar of those whose overweening ambition would just end up making America as God-forsaken as the rest of the world.

    If only Boot didn’t have so many willing to aid and abet. One bright spot is his losing sleep. Maybe he’ll hallucinate about Uncle Joe some more and go on long a research trip. I hear Victoria Nuland has some interest in that part of the world.

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  7. Danindc says:

    You’ve got his number though Steve. He’s been laid bare.
    Hopefully he has that Jewish temper and lashes out at Steve on Twitter a la JPod the lesser. That was a huge win for Citizenists vs the ((globalists))

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  8. Sharrukin says:

    Max Boot is about as American as he was Russian.

    He was always at best a ‘paper’ American.

    Ethnic loyalties often supersede loyalty to multicultural entities. There aren’t many Frenchmen who are truly loyal to the EU.

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    • Replies: @Broski
    But, but, never before did he feel hyphenated!
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Multiculturalism may work better in a monarchy because loyalty is personal - to the person of the monarch, rather than the country.
  9. SnakeEyes says:

    The termination of DACA has proven useful at exposing the bottom line position of the pro-unrestricted immigration set. Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.

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    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”

    Reagan said basically the same thing in 1988. That's been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.
    , @Calsdad
    Sounds like Boot just admitted he's not an American then.....

    Because he's CONSTANTLY been an advocate for overseas intervention and unrestricted immigration. Both of which go against the American ideals that I understand. At least before the progressives started destroying the Republic.
    , @3g4me
    @10 SnakeEyes: "Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”."

    That is precisely what "citizenism" claims - as opposed to some degree or other of blood and soil nationalism, i.e. ethnic nationalism, i.e. identitarianism, i.e alt-right, which I support.
  10. IHTG says:

    What kind of a name is “Boot” anyway.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Did Boot get it from Waugh's "Scoop?"
    , @Anonymous
    Anyhow, I much prefer the late English comic performer Max Wall - his absurd routine was far far superior to anything Boot can kick up.
    , @Escher
    Is his son named Jack?
    , @Seamus Padraig

    What kind of a name is “Boot” anyway.
     
    As a word, it's the German spelling of 'boat'. So more than likely, Max's family is Ashkenazic rather than Khazar.
    , @Verymuchalive
    You Americans got the wrong Boot. His father Alexander, whom Max never mentions, is altogether more sensible. He is an associate of Theodore Dalrymple ( Dr Anthony Daniels ) and has his own blog www.alexanderboot.com/
  11. Maj. Kong says:
    @Desiderius

    Max Boot, Mr. Invade-The-World-Invite-The-World, Doesn't Feel Like an American Anymore
     
    Feature, not bug.

    It would be glorious to see those like Max Boot leave this country and move to Israel. Both sides would be happier afterwards.

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    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    It would be glorious to see those like Max Boot leave this country and move to Israel. Both sides would be happier afterwards.
     
    Maybe Israel doesn't want him. Hard to see where half-wittedness is an attractive characteristic.
    , @Dmitry134564
    Not really. Israel has a small population.

    Politically it would be bad news. If a million leftists came from the US, they could swing the elections leftwards, in the same way the 1990s aliyah swung it to the right.

    Economically, it could be positive. People like Max Boot are well educated and middle class, which would benefit the economy.

  12. Problem in EU is failure to assimilate Muslim immigrants. US has done better job, but Trump attacks alienate Muslims & threaten security.

    Did anyone ask him whether the same applies to Israel, and attacks there?

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  13. Wow, just wow. He is a perfect example of why 90+% of all immigration since 1965 has been a total and absolute failure for the FUSA.

    He must be aware of how many millions Stalin killed and to say, in all seriousness, that he would prefer that mass murderer over Trump is to tell me that Max Boot worships Satan. What a sick and demented collection of cells MB is. With that said, imagine if Mr. Sailer or someone of his ilk were to tweet they would prefer to have Hitler as a “citizen” of the FUSA over MB.

    You know what I say, F-M-B.

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    • Replies: @fnn

    He must be aware of how many millions Stalin killed...
     
    Even the saintly Lenin was no slouch:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Industrial_workers

    In the city of Astrakhan, strikers and Red Army soldiers who joined them were loaded onto barges and then thrown by the hundreds into the Volga with stones around their necks. Between 2,000 and 4,000 were shot or drowned between 12 and 14 March 1919. In addition, the repression also claimed the lives of some 600 to 1,000 of the bourgeoisie. Archival documents indicate this was the largest massacre of workers by the Bolsheviks before the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion.[24]
    However, strikes continued. Lenin had concerns about the tense situation regarding workers in the Ural region. On 29 January 1920, he sent a telegram to Vladimir Smirnov stating "I am surprised that you are taking the matter so lightly, and are not immediately executing large numbers of strikers for the crime of sabotage".[25]
     
    Atrocities

    At these times, there were numerous reports that Cheka interrogators used torture methods which were, according to Orlando Figes, "matched only by the Spanish Inquisition."[26] At Odessa the Cheka tied White officers to planks and slowly fed them into furnaces or tanks of boiling water; in Kharkiv, scalpings and hand-flayings were commonplace: the skin was peeled off victims' hands to produce "gloves"; the Voronezh Cheka rolled naked people around in barrels studded internally with nails; victims were crucified or stoned to death at Dnipropetrovsk; the Cheka at Kremenchuk impaled members of the clergy and buried alive rebelling peasants; in Orel, water was poured on naked prisoners bound in the winter streets until they became living ice statues; in Kiev, Chinese Cheka detachments placed rats in iron tubes sealed at one end with wire netting and the other placed against the body of a prisoner, with the tubes being heated until the rats gnawed through the victim's body in an effort to escape.[27]

    Executions took place in prison cellars or courtyards, or occasionally on the outskirts of town, during the Red Terror and Russian Civil War. After the condemned were stripped of their clothing and other belongings, which were shared among the Cheka executioners, they were either machine-gunned in batches or dispatched individually with a revolver. Those killed in prison were usually shot in the back of the neck as they entered the execution cellar, which became littered with corpses and soaked with blood. Victims killed outside the town were moved by truck, bound and gagged, to their place of execution, where they sometimes were made to dig their own graves.[28]

    According to Edvard Radzinsky, "it became a common practice to take a husband hostage and wait for his wife to come and purchase his life with her body".[3] During Decossackization, there were massacres, according to historian Robert Gellately, "on an unheard of scale". The Pyatigorsk Cheka organized a "day of Red Terror" to execute 300 people in one day, and took quotas from each part of town. According to the Chekist Karl Lander, the Cheka in Kislovodsk, "for lack of a better idea", killed all the patients in the hospital. In October 1920 alone more than 6,000 people were executed. Gellately adds that Communist leaders "sought to justify their ethnic-based massacres by incorporating them into the rubric of the 'class struggle'".[29]

    Members of the clergy were subjected to particularly brutal abuse. According to documents cited by the late Alexander Yakovlev, then head of the Presidential Committee for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression, priests, monks and nuns were crucified, thrown into cauldrons of boiling tar, scalped, strangled, given Communion with melted lead and drowned in holes in the ice.[30] An estimated 3,000 were put to death in 1918 alone.[30]
     
    , @Anonymous
    If he were around in 1933 in Chicago he'd be one would be with those American communists attacking Ukrainians protesting the Holodomor.
  14. @IHTG
    What kind of a name is "Boot" anyway.

    Did Boot get it from Waugh’s “Scoop?”

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Strangely enough 'but' in Polish, pronounced 'boot' means 'shoe' in English.
    I don't know if this is coincidence or if there is a deeper etymological significance.

    Perhaps his ancestors made boots for a living.
    , @sb
    It would be a nice touch if his name was some kind of nom de plume homage to Waugh but I don't think this guy does nice touches
  15. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Not even Trump and his nativist attorney general, Jeff Sessions, have yet figured out a way to strip naturalized American citizens of their legal status

    Actually, Mr. Boot, there is a way.

    Attorney General Sessions can use this confession I no longer feel like a “real” American. as evidence that your naturalization was fraudulent and hence proceed to denaturalize and deport you. It is easier if you have also voted or served in the armed forces or the government of Israel. This may be a good time to start thinking about making Aliyah and make it easy for everyone.

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  16. Broski says:
    @Sharrukin
    Max Boot is about as American as he was Russian.

    He was always at best a 'paper' American.

    Ethnic loyalties often supersede loyalty to multicultural entities. There aren't many Frenchmen who are truly loyal to the EU.

    But, but, never before did he feel hyphenated!

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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    Did Boot get it from Waugh's "Scoop?"

    Strangely enough ‘but’ in Polish, pronounced ‘boot’ means ‘shoe’ in English.
    I don’t know if this is coincidence or if there is a deeper etymological significance.

    Perhaps his ancestors made boots for a living.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    ... And there is that fugitive Russian mega arms smuggler Victor Bout - pronounced 'boot'.
  18. guest says:

    “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump”

    Sure he would. Stalin may have ended up ruling like a nationalist–or rather an imperialist focused on the interests of a nation (Russia), dominated to large extent by non-Russian minorities (like Stalin)–but he also promoted the international communist conspiracy. Plus, he was a totalitarian. That’s far more Bootian than Trumpian.

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    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    imperialist focused on the interests of a nation (Russia), dominated to large extent by non-Russian minorities (like Stalin)
     
    Over time Stalin turned into a de facto Russian nationalist. He didn't really trust minorities and saw ethnic Russians as the glue that kept the country together. The ruling class of the USSR from the 1940s on was even more ethnic Russian than it had been under the late Romanov emperors (where Polish, Tatar and German aristocrats occupied a lot of high offices and military roles).
  19. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @IHTG
    What kind of a name is "Boot" anyway.

    Anyhow, I much prefer the late English comic performer Max Wall – his absurd routine was far far superior to anything Boot can kick up.

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    • Replies: @John Derbyshire

    the late English comic performer Max Wall
     
    "I was crossing the river on a very narrow footbridge. A beautiful young woman was crossing the other way, coming towards me. I couldn't decide whether to block her passage or toss myself off."

    (IIRC that's the one that got him dropped by the BBC.)
  20. Thomas says:

    On a list ranking “immigration waves we could’ve done without,” I’d imagine the post-1971 refuseniks from the USSR would make an appearance.

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  21. guest says:
    @Felix Keverich
    Max Boot is definitely not a "Russian American". I wouldn't call him white either.

    “Max Boot is definitely not a ‘Russian American.’”

    Pale of Settlement-American? Parentheses-American?

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  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Strangely enough 'but' in Polish, pronounced 'boot' means 'shoe' in English.
    I don't know if this is coincidence or if there is a deeper etymological significance.

    Perhaps his ancestors made boots for a living.

    … And there is that fugitive Russian mega arms smuggler Victor Bout – pronounced ‘boot’.

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    • Replies: @JL
    He's definitely not a fugitive, he's rotting in an American prison.
  23. Hubbub says:

    No doubt many would be willing to serve for some set period in return for one of the world’s most precious commodities — U.S. citizenship.

    Unlimited immigration – a good way to cheapen ‘the world’s most precious commodit[y], which is what has been happening for several decades now.

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  24. If you want a picture of the present, look at Max Boot stamping on Americans’ faces.

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  25. Thea says:

    Grotesque.

    You’ve done a great job articulating the problem of these ingrates.

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  26. Does he mention whether his parents came legally? Did they go through a legally defined process? Does he think there should be ANY limits on immigration?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I imagine Max got into the U.S. due to his religion, like Julia Ioffe.
    , @Jon Halpenny
    Possibly he got to America thanks to the Jackson-vanik legislation, promoted by Senator Henry Jackson.

    Jackson was regarded as patron saint of the Neocons

    , @Forbes

    Does he mention whether his parents came legally?
     
    Sounds like not.

    Did they go through a legally defined process?
     
    Sounds like Jackson-Vanik.

    Boot: "My family’s case was somewhat different in that we received legal status as refugees after arriving here, and in time we became citizens."

    , @Mr. Anon
    Tucker Carlson had some ditzy chiquita on his show tonight (defending DACA) who said she'd be thrilled with an America that had a population of a billion people.
  27. Wilkey says:

    I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted…

    It’s amazing how quickly he decided to drop his Americanness and pick up the mantle of his ethnic identity. I mean one election doesn’t go his way and boom, he’s outta here.

    I certainly don’t think Jews “run America,” but even the current domestic and international policies of our government – whether on trade, taxes, immigration, foreign policy, or whatever – are probably closer to those of your average Jew than they are to the average views of any other ethnic group in this country, including founding stock Americans. That’s to say nothing of the policies of the last 4+ presidents, which were generally even more closely aligned with Jewish thinking.

    The chairman and vice-chairman of the Fed are both Jewish, as is 33% of the Supreme Court. I count 8 Jews in the US Senate. While that’s about 4x their share of the US population it is actually low by recent standards.

    But if Trump’s election is enough to make make Max Boot want to take his ball and go home. Fine, he can leave. I’d love to see him move to Israel, if for no other reason than to see if he’d advocate the same open borders policy for Israel that he’s been advocating for the US. I mean no matter how smart Max Boot is it definitely requires a special kind of insanity to want the overwhelming majority of your country’s military to be staffed by people with absolutely zero loyalty to the country’s citizens. I’m sure Israel could find plenty of Muslim Arab foreigners willing to take up arms in its military in its defense. What have they got to lose?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It’s amazing how quickly he decided to drop his Americanness and pick up the mantle of his ethnic identity. I mean one election doesn’t go his way and boom, he’s outta here.

    "Rootless cosmopolitan"?

  28. Escher says:
    @IHTG
    What kind of a name is "Boot" anyway.

    Is his son named Jack?

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    • Replies: @Dot Not Feather
    Jack should marry a Bengali so they can become the Das-Boots.
  29. Wilkey says:

    No doubt many would be willing to serve for some set period in return for one of the world’s most precious commodities — U.S. citizenship.

    Boot should talk to his friends and former classmates working on Wall Street about how to go about pricing “one of the world’s most precious commodities.” I’m sure it doesn’t involve giving it away basically for free. Actually worse than free – giving it away, in fact, with a paying job with pretty damn good benefits.

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  30. When people like Max Boot openly say they are reevaluating their relationship to America, doesn’t that make it harder for Conservatism Inc. to cuck for them?

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    No, cucks are people-pleasers. Nothing terrifies them so much as the thought that someone might not like them. It's why everyone treats them so badly - it works.
    , @AndrewR
    When Jewish neocons say jump, white cuckservatives ask how high.
  31. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Does he mention whether his parents came legally? Did they go through a legally defined process? Does he think there should be ANY limits on immigration?

    I imagine Max got into the U.S. due to his religion, like Julia Ioffe.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    No good deed goes unpunished.
    , @jesse helms think-alike
    Jewish emigration from the USSR in the 70's was the result of the Jackson Vanik amendment

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson%E2%80%93Vanik_amendment


    The amendment would deny normal trade relations to certain countries with non-market economies that restricted freedom of emigration. The amendment was intended to allow primarily Jewish refugees and other religious minorities to escape from the Soviet Bloc.

    From 1972 to January 1975, Congress debated and added the Jackson-Vanik Amendment to the 1972 Trade Reform Act, which restricted the President’s ability to provide most favored nation (MFN) status to the Soviet Union and other non-market economies that formed the Soviet bloc.

    Jackson's staffer Richard Perle said in an interview that the idea belonged to Jackson, who believed that the right to emigrate was the most powerful among the human rights
     

    wikipedia article is complicated and confusing but net result of this amendment was to allow 100s of thousands of soviet jews (and those willing to pretend to be jews) to emigrate to US and Israel in the mid to late 70's
    , @JL
    In the Soviet Union, as in Russia now, being Jewish wasn't a religion, but a nationality. I doubt either Boot's or Ioffe's parents ever set foot in a synagogue, but in their internal passports their nationality was listed as "Jewish" and that was their ticket out of the country when emigration restrictions were eventually loosened. Generally, it's interesting how in the US being "Jewish" is rather amorphous, while elsewhere it is clearly defined.
  32. jim jones says:

    Secret documents have come to light showing that Britain will clamp down on immigration after Brexit, call me cynical but this seems to be just another PR exercise:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4855264/Tough-new-immigration-rules-revealed-massive-leak.html

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  33. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Does he mention whether his parents came legally? Did they go through a legally defined process? Does he think there should be ANY limits on immigration?

    Possibly he got to America thanks to the Jackson-vanik legislation, promoted by Senator Henry Jackson.

    Jackson was regarded as patron saint of the Neocons

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  34. Stogumber says:

    His big error is of course: He convinced hinself that he embraced “American values”. But why should the genuinely bolshevist ideas – world wide war, world wide regime change and world empire, for the sake of whatever – be “American values”?

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    • Replies: @Calsdad
    Did he convince himself - or did he convince a bunch of "Americans" - to go against their best interests.

    The whole non-stop overseas intervention thing has been something that I have always seen as un-American. When Ron Paul tried his run for President (which he admits was more an effort to get his ideals in front of a mass audience than a very serious run for the Presidency - he also admits he figured they probably kill him if he actually won) .... one of the the things he brought up constantly was dumping all the foreign intervention - and taking care of ourselves - FIRST.

    A whole bunch of people - like Max Boot (and other neocons) , constantly derided Paul as an "isolationist". So to the non-thinking masses what got put across was a guy who wanted to make the US into a national version of the Unabomber - living out in the woods with no contact with the outside world.

    Isolation is one of those manipulative words used by leftists , along with homophobia, islamophobia, sexism, racism - etc. I am not "phobic" of you - I don't like you - there's a difference. It's not sexism or racism to be aware of very obvious differences - and it's not isolationism to want to not go around sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. It's called minding your own damn business.
  35. Imagine a Boot stamping on an American face — forever.

    It’s been said that Max Boot sounds like the name of a Bond villain. There was an evil henchman named Stamper in Tomorrow Never Dies. Not sure what it all means.

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  36. The guy arrived 41 years ago, but he’s still a Dreamer – as if he just got off Das Boot.

    When you invade the world you invite these sorts of folks with foreign entanglements who want you to invade it even more.

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  37. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    The military would do well today to open its ranks not only to legal immigrants but also to illegal ones and, as important, to untold numbers of young men and women who are not here now but would like to come. No doubt many would be willing to serve for some set period in return for one of the world’s most precious commodities — U.S. citizenship. Open up recruiting stations from Budapest to Bangkok, Cape Town to Cairo, Montreal to Mexico City.

    Diversity, inclusion, and integration have gone hand-in-hand with imperialism since Alexander the Great.

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  38. Rod1963 says:

    I saw Tucker Carlson interview Boot a month or so ago. Boot came off totally unhinged and comical. Tucker was actually laughing at him. BTW most of the Russiaphobes come off the same way. Schiff is a great example.

    The point is with these neo-con nutters, once you get them out of the MSM butt kissing bubble and really talk to them, they do come off as total nut jobs worthy of only ridicule. They really are quite stupid men, most can’t argue their position for anything. All they do is repeat talking points and outshout their host.

    I just wish someone would point out to the looney tune, that his strategy flipped Iraq into the hands of Iran and they are now the rulers of Iraq through their proxy in Baghdad.

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    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    I do love way Tucker laughs at the clowns he brings on his show. The best was his laughing at Ca congressman Adam Schiff. Laughing out loud in his face. A member of congress. National tv. Unreal and hilarious. U have to see it.
    , @Anonymous

    I just wish someone would point out to the looney tune, that his strategy flipped Iraq into the hands of Iran and they are now the rulers of Iraq through their proxy in Baghdad.

     

    U.S. SOF and CIA were on the ground in Syria in as early as 2011 training and arming jihadis to overthrow the secular Assad government. Israel directly helped ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, et Al. The UK, US, the Gulfies, etc., funneled arms, money, and jihadis into Syria. Bulgarian reporter Dilyana Gaytandzhieva uncovered records showing the U.S. funneled $1.5 billion in arms to Syria (good thing that things are perfect here and we don't need that money spent here in America!).

    Now in Syria, Israel finds itself in a much more precarious position prior to the civil war that they instigated. With Russia and Iran and Hizbullah. And all this transpiring as the American empire is in decline at an increasing rate.

    , @anonymous

    Boot came off totally unhinged and comical. Tucker was actually laughing at him. BTW most of the Russiaphobes come off the same way. Schiff is a great example.
     
    They appear to have an irrational hatred of Russians. Now if only there were a term, a bit stronger than a 'phobe', for one having such an irrational hatred for a specific group of people based upon ethnic and/or religious ties.
  39. Here’s a clip of a recent exchange between Tucker and Boot on Fox. Tucker makes alot of the points you have made about his foreign policy prescriptions – to his face

    Regarding foreigners with made up names:

    When I encounter an obvious foreigner with a too-American sounding name it’s always been a warning sign for me that every word out of this persons mouth is a lie including and and the.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @Broski
    Beautiful! Tucker Carlson has come into his own in the last couple years.
    , @Luke Lea
    Sometimes, but not often, it's fun to watch Tucker bitch slap a loony guest.
    , @guest
    "You supported the Iraq War and then when it went bad you opposed it. Which doesn't take any moral courage."

    Anyone can be right. Being wrong requires moral courage. Max Boot is as wrong as possible because he's the bravest man alive, don't you know?
  40. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    It’s amazing anyone still pays Max Boot to do what he does. Tucker Carlson demolished him a couple of months back.

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    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    Hah. I saw Mr Carlson's encounter with Boot just the other day. We really did create monsters within Conservative Inc.
  41. @Steve Sailer
    I imagine Max got into the U.S. due to his religion, like Julia Ioffe.

    No good deed goes unpunished.

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  42. @jesse helms think-alike
    Here's a clip of a recent exchange between Tucker and Boot on Fox. Tucker makes alot of the points you have made about his foreign policy prescriptions - to his face

    https://youtu.be/4HjVipLZYns?t=1m58s

    Regarding foreigners with made up names:

    When I encounter an obvious foreigner with a too-American sounding name it's always been a warning sign for me that every word out of this persons mouth is a lie including and and the.

    Thanks.

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  43. @RobertTaylor
    When people like Max Boot openly say they are reevaluating their relationship to America, doesn't that make it harder for Conservatism Inc. to cuck for them?

    No, cucks are people-pleasers. Nothing terrifies them so much as the thought that someone might not like them. It’s why everyone treats them so badly – it works.

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  44. @jesse helms think-alike
    Here's a clip of a recent exchange between Tucker and Boot on Fox. Tucker makes alot of the points you have made about his foreign policy prescriptions - to his face

    https://youtu.be/4HjVipLZYns?t=1m58s

    Regarding foreigners with made up names:

    When I encounter an obvious foreigner with a too-American sounding name it's always been a warning sign for me that every word out of this persons mouth is a lie including and and the.

    Thanks.

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  45. G Pinfold says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    It's amazing anyone still pays Max Boot to do what he does. Tucker Carlson demolished him a couple of months back.
    https://twitter.com/joni_suonpaa/status/886266190242476034

    Hah. I saw Mr Carlson’s encounter with Boot just the other day. We really did create monsters within Conservative Inc.

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  46. Daniel H says:

    >>So people are often surprised to find out that I wasn’t born in the United States. When I tell them where I’m from, they often ask, “Were your parents diplomats?” Nope. My parents were Russian Jews who fled the oppression of the Soviet Union and found a haven in the Land of Opportunity.<<

    Bullshit. When asked how he and his family acquired such a coveted visa, nobody with an IQ over 85 assumed that Boot's parents were diplomats and not Jews.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    You overestimate the public's awareness of jewish privilege.
  47. @Steve Sailer
    I imagine Max got into the U.S. due to his religion, like Julia Ioffe.

    Jewish emigration from the USSR in the 70′s was the result of the Jackson Vanik amendment

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson%E2%80%93Vanik_amendment

    The amendment would deny normal trade relations to certain countries with non-market economies that restricted freedom of emigration. The amendment was intended to allow primarily Jewish refugees and other religious minorities to escape from the Soviet Bloc.

    From 1972 to January 1975, Congress debated and added the Jackson-Vanik Amendment to the 1972 Trade Reform Act, which restricted the President’s ability to provide most favored nation (MFN) status to the Soviet Union and other non-market economies that formed the Soviet bloc.

    Jackson’s staffer Richard Perle said in an interview that the idea belonged to Jackson, who believed that the right to emigrate was the most powerful among the human rights

    wikipedia article is complicated and confusing but net result of this amendment was to allow 100s of thousands of soviet jews (and those willing to pretend to be jews) to emigrate to US and Israel in the mid to late 70′s

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Isn't Perle from pre-Iranian Beverly Hills, or rather its high school (where he dated Albert Wohlstetter's daughter & landed the coffee boy assignment at RAND Corp)? The essential classic William-Morris-mailroom story, except in Santa Monica, which was trashier back then; or actually, like it's becoming again now... Anyway why not join the Feith brothers at whatever Paraguyan airstrip they use to stash the loot? Not as if he's busy at the moment.
    , @AnotherDad

    Jackson’s staffer Richard Perle said in an interview that the idea belonged to Jackson, who believed that the right to emigrate was the most powerful among the human rights
     
    To be fair, Jackson is 100% correct. The right to *emigrate*--i.e. the right to leave--is among the most powerful and fundamental human rights. If you can't leave then you are in a prison. Which is how I could tell even as a tyke back in the 60s, that the US was on the right side of the Cold War. The other side locked people *in*.

    However, there is no corresponding right to *immigrate*--i.e. the right to get into someone else's place. Doing so without consent is breaking and entering--an attack on the imposed upon party. Declaring there is such a right is declaring that right to invade. It is law of the jungle. Declaring allegiance to the thug, the rapist, the barbarian--the antithesis of civilization.


    Note that "the left" is on the evil side of both, of these questions--quite the feat. Championing the right of commie thugs to lock their people in and championing the right of foreigners to invade civilized nations. Leftism is the ideology of the thug.

  48. Good grief someone has really lost their cookies. What is it exactly this guy does for a living? I dont think he is up to taking out the trash.

    Max get yourself a therapist if you dont already have one. And some pills.

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    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    Plenty of sinecures for resentful aliens in The Think Tank Archipelago. Here's Frederick Kagan and his wife strolling around Basra.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Frederick_and_Kimberly_Kagan_in_Basra.jpg

    Poisonous institutions. Gussied-up lobbyists for the military-industrial complex and foreign interests.
  49. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “I am white. I am Jewish”. No, you’re not white, yes you’re jewish and yes you “need to go back”.

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  50. For example, on March 2, 2016 Max Boot told the New York Times: “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump.”

    Does Boot suffer from a subconscious desire to be purged like the (((Trotskyites)))?

    Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.

    He feels Russian? Hasn’t he been one of those people actively promoting all the Russophobia recently?

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    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    Good point!! Dude's a drama queen too. I am sure his life is so hard.
  51. @IHTG
    What kind of a name is "Boot" anyway.

    What kind of a name is “Boot” anyway.

    As a word, it’s the German spelling of ‘boat’. So more than likely, Max’s family is Ashkenazic rather than Khazar.

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  52. fnn says:
    @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Wow, just wow. He is a perfect example of why 90+% of all immigration since 1965 has been a total and absolute failure for the FUSA.

    He must be aware of how many millions Stalin killed and to say, in all seriousness, that he would prefer that mass murderer over Trump is to tell me that Max Boot worships Satan. What a sick and demented collection of cells MB is. With that said, imagine if Mr. Sailer or someone of his ilk were to tweet they would prefer to have Hitler as a "citizen" of the FUSA over MB.

    You know what I say, F-M-B.

    He must be aware of how many millions Stalin killed…

    Even the saintly Lenin was no slouch:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Industrial_workers

    In the city of Astrakhan, strikers and Red Army soldiers who joined them were loaded onto barges and then thrown by the hundreds into the Volga with stones around their necks. Between 2,000 and 4,000 were shot or drowned between 12 and 14 March 1919. In addition, the repression also claimed the lives of some 600 to 1,000 of the bourgeoisie. Archival documents indicate this was the largest massacre of workers by the Bolsheviks before the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion.[24]
    However, strikes continued. Lenin had concerns about the tense situation regarding workers in the Ural region. On 29 January 1920, he sent a telegram to Vladimir Smirnov stating “I am surprised that you are taking the matter so lightly, and are not immediately executing large numbers of strikers for the crime of sabotage”.[25]

    Atrocities

    At these times, there were numerous reports that Cheka interrogators used torture methods which were, according to Orlando Figes, “matched only by the Spanish Inquisition.”[26] At Odessa the Cheka tied White officers to planks and slowly fed them into furnaces or tanks of boiling water; in Kharkiv, scalpings and hand-flayings were commonplace: the skin was peeled off victims’ hands to produce “gloves”; the Voronezh Cheka rolled naked people around in barrels studded internally with nails; victims were crucified or stoned to death at Dnipropetrovsk; the Cheka at Kremenchuk impaled members of the clergy and buried alive rebelling peasants; in Orel, water was poured on naked prisoners bound in the winter streets until they became living ice statues; in Kiev, Chinese Cheka detachments placed rats in iron tubes sealed at one end with wire netting and the other placed against the body of a prisoner, with the tubes being heated until the rats gnawed through the victim’s body in an effort to escape.[27]

    Executions took place in prison cellars or courtyards, or occasionally on the outskirts of town, during the Red Terror and Russian Civil War. After the condemned were stripped of their clothing and other belongings, which were shared among the Cheka executioners, they were either machine-gunned in batches or dispatched individually with a revolver. Those killed in prison were usually shot in the back of the neck as they entered the execution cellar, which became littered with corpses and soaked with blood. Victims killed outside the town were moved by truck, bound and gagged, to their place of execution, where they sometimes were made to dig their own graves.[28]

    According to Edvard Radzinsky, “it became a common practice to take a husband hostage and wait for his wife to come and purchase his life with her body”.[3] During Decossackization, there were massacres, according to historian Robert Gellately, “on an unheard of scale”. The Pyatigorsk Cheka organized a “day of Red Terror” to execute 300 people in one day, and took quotas from each part of town. According to the Chekist Karl Lander, the Cheka in Kislovodsk, “for lack of a better idea”, killed all the patients in the hospital. In October 1920 alone more than 6,000 people were executed. Gellately adds that Communist leaders “sought to justify their ethnic-based massacres by incorporating them into the rubric of the ‘class struggle’”.[29]

    Members of the clergy were subjected to particularly brutal abuse. According to documents cited by the late Alexander Yakovlev, then head of the Presidential Committee for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression, priests, monks and nuns were crucified, thrown into cauldrons of boiling tar, scalped, strangled, given Communion with melted lead and drowned in holes in the ice.[30] An estimated 3,000 were put to death in 1918 alone.[30]

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    "In the city of Astrakhan, strikers and Red Army soldiers who joined them were loaded onto barges and then thrown by the hundreds into the Volga with stones around their necks. "

    This was the method pioneered in the French Revolution against Catholics in the Vendee, the first industrial-scale slaughters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drownings_at_Nantes
    , @Anonymous
    Probably worth highlighting:

    Gellately adds that Communist leaders “sought to justify their ethnic-based massacres by incorporating them into the rubric of the ‘class struggle’”.[29]
     
    What did he mean by this?
  53. Realist says:

    “I came to this country 41 years ago. Now Trump is making me feel like I don’t belong here.

    By Max Boot September 5 at 7:32 PM”

    Well that’s one thing Trump has done right. Boot is an asshole.

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  54. @Rod1963
    I saw Tucker Carlson interview Boot a month or so ago. Boot came off totally unhinged and comical. Tucker was actually laughing at him. BTW most of the Russiaphobes come off the same way. Schiff is a great example.

    The point is with these neo-con nutters, once you get them out of the MSM butt kissing bubble and really talk to them, they do come off as total nut jobs worthy of only ridicule. They really are quite stupid men, most can't argue their position for anything. All they do is repeat talking points and outshout their host.

    I just wish someone would point out to the looney tune, that his strategy flipped Iraq into the hands of Iran and they are now the rulers of Iraq through their proxy in Baghdad.

    I do love way Tucker laughs at the clowns he brings on his show. The best was his laughing at Ca congressman Adam Schiff. Laughing out loud in his face. A member of congress. National tv. Unreal and hilarious. U have to see it.

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  55. Achilles says:

    Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.

    Have we reached Peak Jew Hysteria yet?

    I would venture to guess that as a child Max was not disciplined but rather indulged by his parents. Under my Theory of Jewish Child-Raising, tantrums are not punished but rather rewarded in many Jewish families, and thus they progress from spoiled children to neurotic and manipulative adults who try to get their way by personalizing disagreement and conjuring up psychodramas to inflict on others.

    The old idea that anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American is out. Instead, American-ness is being redefined in blood-and-soil terms…. I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted as a boy in 1976.

    Russian Jews would never have created anything like the American nation. No doubt the “ideals” Boot has in mind when he thinks of American ideals are a cherry-picked set that so happen to help advance his own agenda.

    The ideals that naturally arise from the culture of secularized Russian Jews are probably best represented by the thinking of Lev Bronstein, updated to take into account the undeniable failure of communism, to something like “Globalism in Every Country” through a permanent, ongoing campaign of destruction of the gentile nation-states. These are the ideals of Max Boot, and they are alien to America as founded and for most of our history.

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    • Replies: @conatus
    "Under my Theory of Jewish Child-Raising, tantrums are not punished but rather rewarded in many Jewish families, and thus they progress from spoiled children to neurotic and manipulative adults who try to get their way by personalizing disagreement and conjuring up psychodramas to inflict on others."

    I agree and have said the same thing many times.
    THE most spoiled ethnicity in the world. But that would be OK with them, the word "THE" is tattooed in their synapses as they mature. The biggest victims, the smartest people, the wealthiest, the most moral, the chosen ones. A completely different species of human, unlike the rest of us cows.
    , @Yada yada
    You might even go so far as to say that most of Jewish culture is built and predicated on narcissism.
    , @Dmitry134564
    Most secular Russian Jews are very conservative. Again, it seems people like to make up things on subjects they know nothing about, or have no actual experience of.
  56. LondonBob says:

    Carlson and Steyn are a great double act, Tucker does the straight man role perfectly and Mark is a great wit.

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  57. @IHTG
    What kind of a name is "Boot" anyway.

    You Americans got the wrong Boot. His father Alexander, whom Max never mentions, is altogether more sensible. He is an associate of Theodore Dalrymple ( Dr Anthony Daniels ) and has his own blog http://www.alexanderboot.com/

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    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    Agreed about Alexander. I believe he is also now an Anglican.
  58. Max Boot’s father, Alexander Boot, has his own blog here:

    http://www.alexanderboot.com/blog/

    Alexander Boot writes from a reactionary, conservative, Christian perspective (he converted from Judaism).
    He is the author of several books including How the West Was Lost, The Crisis Behind Our Crisis, How the Future Worked and Democracy as a Neocon Trick. He also writes occasionally for The Daily Mail among others. I have often thought his articles would fit well on the Unz Review.

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    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    Just took a look at his blog. Pretty good stuff, obviously a man with the Tragic rather than Utopian Vision. If he has no outlets elsewhere (as Dalrymple does at City Journal) Mr Unz could do worse than consider him.
    , @Tyrion
    Max Boot takes everything he writes about in this article so personally. Whether the playground bullying of the social media Nazi LARPers or Trump, DACA and everything else together. He reaches for and clutches his pearls every paragraph, so much his neck must be in agony.

    It is not however an article written with deep conviction. It mentions something and gasps. And then another thing and gasps again and on and on and on. Smart people like Max love to go into detail on what they are convinced about, not so here.

    Perhaps Max Boot very much wants to be a Conservative - the cool kids in the 80s, or maybe because it is more macho - it must have been hard having a strong Russian accent at American high school at the height of the Cold War.

    But then his true Conservative and anti-Neocon father seems to have moved away when Max was just 18/19. Alexander Boot left the US for the UK. He left the country that gave them initial refuge, he left Max. Funny how this article seems to be replaying that family drama with Trump as Papa Boot. Max, just call your Dad and tell him what you think. Articles like this won't help.

    Funny also how Max seems to have gone down the runaway to the Army route, like so many young men who are angry at their fathers, although in his case his route was adjusted to be a bit more suitable for an egghead intellectual.

    , @LondonBob
    Seems as confused as his son, all over the place.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Wait, wait... So he's (((a Christian)))? My mind is blown!
    , @Old Palo Altan
    Well, well, well.
    I read Alexander Boot's blog regularly. It is good rather than great, and it's deep anti-Putinism has always puzzled me.

    Until now.

  59. Altai says:
    @(((Echo)))
    Why do (((they))) insist on destroying the countries that take them in? It wasn't enough that his people destroyed Russia with communism?

    Don’t forget when Summers, Geithner et al ransacked it with the help of local psychopaths after the fall of the Soviet Union, hence we have a strongman leader in Putin now, but this must be memory-holed. As must the fact that what was done to Russia in the 90s was a trial run for the policies currently unravelling the West.

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  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Other than Israel, where would Jews unhappy with America go?

    Max Boot types might go to Israel, but most liberal Jews don’t seem interested in that.

    No other place will give them the opportunities and safety they’ve enjoyed here.

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    • Replies: @Jake
    The entire Anglosphere is fine for them - but only the US bestrides the globe. They are like a group of Saurons, Sarumans, and Gollums.
    , @Opinionator
    Canada? Australia? New Zealand? Germany? Latin America?
  61. @SnakeEyes
    The termination of DACA has proven useful at exposing the bottom line position of the pro-unrestricted immigration set. Boot explicitly says that "anyone who embraces America's ideals can become an American".

    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”

    Reagan said basically the same thing in 1988. That’s been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.

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    • Replies: @Chris Mallory

    That’s been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.
     
    It was a mistaken policy that lead to our downfall.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?
    , @Chrisnonymous
    There's a big difference between saying that the US doesn't have an ethnicity or religion test for membership and saying that membership is open to anyone who idealizes the US.

    And make no mistake: idealizing is what we're talking about. When Boot says anyone who embraces America's ideals can become a citizen, the ideals he is talking about basically amount to agreeing that anyone who embraces the ideals can be admitted. It's kind of a recursive nationality. As with any infinity mirror, the repetitive form has only one source. OBEY GIANT.
    , @dr kill
    As always with politics, it depends on who is defining the ideals of America. I'm sure Boot's are much different than mine.
  62. @guest
    "I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump"

    Sure he would. Stalin may have ended up ruling like a nationalist--or rather an imperialist focused on the interests of a nation (Russia), dominated to large extent by non-Russian minorities (like Stalin)--but he also promoted the international communist conspiracy. Plus, he was a totalitarian. That's far more Bootian than Trumpian.

    imperialist focused on the interests of a nation (Russia), dominated to large extent by non-Russian minorities (like Stalin)

    Over time Stalin turned into a de facto Russian nationalist. He didn’t really trust minorities and saw ethnic Russians as the glue that kept the country together. The ruling class of the USSR from the 1940s on was even more ethnic Russian than it had been under the late Romanov emperors (where Polish, Tatar and German aristocrats occupied a lot of high offices and military roles).

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Did Stalin not have the same genocidal motivations as the Bolsheviks had?
    , @Anonymous
    Stalin didn't trust anyone, except possibly his fellow Georgian Beria.
    , @Beckow
    Stalin had a good peasant instinct and understood that what is closer is better and what is more populous is stronger. He easily defeated the internationalists once the revolutionary fervour subsided. The crazy one-world Marxists had nothing to offer to a regular person.

    Boot and his globalist company are direct descendants of the utopian madness of early communists. They even have similar post-modern social views - see Russia's culture in the 20's - and platitudes about the 'brotherhood of men'.

    Most of human history is about borders, where precisely they are drawn, and who gets to live where. Without borders there can be no society or civilization. Most people understand it, Max Boot doesn't, or pretends not to. I think that 'open border' types simply hate their own societies. It is easier to claim to 'love the mankind' than to admit to not liking one's society. Max Boot hated Russia (his previous society), now he seems to be ready to admit that he also hates America. But he loves mankind, so I guess it is ok....
  63. Randal says:

    That interview of Max Boot never gets old.

    That Tucker Carlson guy is brutal, and there have surely been few targets of such (verbal) brutality more deserving than Boot:

    “No, it’s heartfelt, it’s not sarcasm. I have contempt for your non-argument.

    ….

    More than anything, I’m arguing for the right to ask an honest question without being denounced as a Quisling, but you are incapable of giving a factual answer and so instead you attack the character of the person asking the question…and it’s beneath contempt.””

    The truth must hurt, at least when it’s broadcast on mainstream TV. The question for Americans is how did such a low character as Boot and his ideological allies become so influential in their government’s policymaking over the past couple of decades.

    Close analysis of that phenomenon will surely pay dividends for any American wanting to understand the world around him.

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    • Replies: @3g4me
    @67 Randal: "Close analysis of that phenomenon will surely pay dividends for any American wanting to understand the world around him."

    I see what you did there. Nice. But ultimately futile. Remember, those who are not rootless but merely easily re-root wherever they are planted (to quote an unironic paean to his people by one of Steve's commenters) are better than you, more moral than you, smarter than you, more specially chosen than you, and darn it, people really like them! They even like them enough to elect them to congress after enough misplaced ballots are counted. That's the beauty of our democracy, you know - cream rises to the top.
  64. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Of course, ‘scarpetta’ as in the fictitious literary heroine ‘Kay Scarpetta’ is Italian for ‘shoe’.

    Curiously, the ‘verb’ to ‘scarper’ is Cockney rhyming slang/colloquial English for ‘to escape’.
    The derivation is thus: ‘Scapa Flow’ = ‘to go’.
    ‘Scapa Flow’, was, of course, the Royal Navy base guarding the North Sea approaches to the British Isles, founded, specifically, to counter the Kaiserliche Marine threat to the British Isles anticipated from that direction. The location is in the Shetland Islands, the northernmost extremity of the United Kingdom.
    Thus the dating of this rather antiquated and fading, (in the age of Jafaican), usage to the late 19th/early 20th centuries.

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    • Replies: @Edster
    Actually the Orkneys, but apart from that, spot on.
  65. JL says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I imagine Max got into the U.S. due to his religion, like Julia Ioffe.

    In the Soviet Union, as in Russia now, being Jewish wasn’t a religion, but a nationality. I doubt either Boot’s or Ioffe’s parents ever set foot in a synagogue, but in their internal passports their nationality was listed as “Jewish” and that was their ticket out of the country when emigration restrictions were eventually loosened. Generally, it’s interesting how in the US being “Jewish” is rather amorphous, while elsewhere it is clearly defined.

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  66. Randal says:

    The result of all this hate-mongering is that for the first time, I no longer feel like a “real” American. I now feel like an outcast, a minority. … Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.

    Mass immigrationist forced to confront the inevitable consequences of the policy he has espoused for so long, and finding it uncomfortable. A nation made up of competing ethnic blocs will increasingly find its politics and culture run on the basis of identity group interests.

    Turns out Boot is as incompetent at social policy as he was at military and national security policy (and probably for similar reasons – analysis clouded by unacknowledged ideology and identity group interests). Still, it’s nice to think that for once one of these enablers of disastrous policy stupidity might suffer at least some consequences directly, rather than just dying in comfort and leaving future generations to pay the butcher’s bill for their supposedly moral radicalism, as is usually the case.

    [And there's another fine example of what Carlson derides as Boot's inability to confront disagreement without moral condemnation - opposition to mass immigration is "hatemongering".]

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  67. JL says:
    @Anonymous
    ... And there is that fugitive Russian mega arms smuggler Victor Bout - pronounced 'boot'.

    He’s definitely not a fugitive, he’s rotting in an American prison.

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  68. @fnn

    He must be aware of how many millions Stalin killed...
     
    Even the saintly Lenin was no slouch:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Industrial_workers

    In the city of Astrakhan, strikers and Red Army soldiers who joined them were loaded onto barges and then thrown by the hundreds into the Volga with stones around their necks. Between 2,000 and 4,000 were shot or drowned between 12 and 14 March 1919. In addition, the repression also claimed the lives of some 600 to 1,000 of the bourgeoisie. Archival documents indicate this was the largest massacre of workers by the Bolsheviks before the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion.[24]
    However, strikes continued. Lenin had concerns about the tense situation regarding workers in the Ural region. On 29 January 1920, he sent a telegram to Vladimir Smirnov stating "I am surprised that you are taking the matter so lightly, and are not immediately executing large numbers of strikers for the crime of sabotage".[25]
     
    Atrocities

    At these times, there were numerous reports that Cheka interrogators used torture methods which were, according to Orlando Figes, "matched only by the Spanish Inquisition."[26] At Odessa the Cheka tied White officers to planks and slowly fed them into furnaces or tanks of boiling water; in Kharkiv, scalpings and hand-flayings were commonplace: the skin was peeled off victims' hands to produce "gloves"; the Voronezh Cheka rolled naked people around in barrels studded internally with nails; victims were crucified or stoned to death at Dnipropetrovsk; the Cheka at Kremenchuk impaled members of the clergy and buried alive rebelling peasants; in Orel, water was poured on naked prisoners bound in the winter streets until they became living ice statues; in Kiev, Chinese Cheka detachments placed rats in iron tubes sealed at one end with wire netting and the other placed against the body of a prisoner, with the tubes being heated until the rats gnawed through the victim's body in an effort to escape.[27]

    Executions took place in prison cellars or courtyards, or occasionally on the outskirts of town, during the Red Terror and Russian Civil War. After the condemned were stripped of their clothing and other belongings, which were shared among the Cheka executioners, they were either machine-gunned in batches or dispatched individually with a revolver. Those killed in prison were usually shot in the back of the neck as they entered the execution cellar, which became littered with corpses and soaked with blood. Victims killed outside the town were moved by truck, bound and gagged, to their place of execution, where they sometimes were made to dig their own graves.[28]

    According to Edvard Radzinsky, "it became a common practice to take a husband hostage and wait for his wife to come and purchase his life with her body".[3] During Decossackization, there were massacres, according to historian Robert Gellately, "on an unheard of scale". The Pyatigorsk Cheka organized a "day of Red Terror" to execute 300 people in one day, and took quotas from each part of town. According to the Chekist Karl Lander, the Cheka in Kislovodsk, "for lack of a better idea", killed all the patients in the hospital. In October 1920 alone more than 6,000 people were executed. Gellately adds that Communist leaders "sought to justify their ethnic-based massacres by incorporating them into the rubric of the 'class struggle'".[29]

    Members of the clergy were subjected to particularly brutal abuse. According to documents cited by the late Alexander Yakovlev, then head of the Presidential Committee for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression, priests, monks and nuns were crucified, thrown into cauldrons of boiling tar, scalped, strangled, given Communion with melted lead and drowned in holes in the ice.[30] An estimated 3,000 were put to death in 1918 alone.[30]
     

    “In the city of Astrakhan, strikers and Red Army soldiers who joined them were loaded onto barges and then thrown by the hundreds into the Volga with stones around their necks. “

    This was the method pioneered in the French Revolution against Catholics in the Vendee, the first industrial-scale slaughters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drownings_at_Nantes

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  69. Jake says:
    @Anonymous
    Other than Israel, where would Jews unhappy with America go?

    Max Boot types might go to Israel, but most liberal Jews don't seem interested in that.

    No other place will give them the opportunities and safety they've enjoyed here.

    The entire Anglosphere is fine for them – but only the US bestrides the globe. They are like a group of Saurons, Sarumans, and Gollums.

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  70. @Muttonchops
    Max Boot's father, Alexander Boot, has his own blog here:
    http://www.alexanderboot.com/blog/
    Alexander Boot writes from a reactionary, conservative, Christian perspective (he converted from Judaism).
    He is the author of several books including How the West Was Lost, The Crisis Behind Our Crisis, How the Future Worked and Democracy as a Neocon Trick. He also writes occasionally for The Daily Mail among others. I have often thought his articles would fit well on the Unz Review.

    Just took a look at his blog. Pretty good stuff, obviously a man with the Tragic rather than Utopian Vision. If he has no outlets elsewhere (as Dalrymple does at City Journal) Mr Unz could do worse than consider him.

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  71. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Wow, just wow. He is a perfect example of why 90+% of all immigration since 1965 has been a total and absolute failure for the FUSA.

    He must be aware of how many millions Stalin killed and to say, in all seriousness, that he would prefer that mass murderer over Trump is to tell me that Max Boot worships Satan. What a sick and demented collection of cells MB is. With that said, imagine if Mr. Sailer or someone of his ilk were to tweet they would prefer to have Hitler as a "citizen" of the FUSA over MB.

    You know what I say, F-M-B.

    If he were around in 1933 in Chicago he’d be one would be with those American communists attacking Ukrainians protesting the Holodomor.

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  72. JackOH says:
    @Alden
    Go back to Russia Max Boot. Boot is the epitome of the people Dr MacDonald wrote about in "Culture of Critique"

    2017, 1917, 1887, Russian Jewish immigrants haven't changed.

    Alden, I’m actually okay with Jews, don’t think much about Israel, but I’m like you: Go back to Russia, Max Boot. I know Steve’s pumping things up here, but–God help us–if this freak has any following in Washington circles, and I’m sure he does, no wonder we’re constantly in a state of “non-peace”.

    I’m pretty sure I’ve heard influential British-born Americans repeating foreign policy sentiments similar to Boot’s, as though they can’t get that imprint of the onetime British Empire out of their heads.

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  73. @Verymuchalive
    You Americans got the wrong Boot. His father Alexander, whom Max never mentions, is altogether more sensible. He is an associate of Theodore Dalrymple ( Dr Anthony Daniels ) and has his own blog www.alexanderboot.com/

    Agreed about Alexander. I believe he is also now an Anglican.

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  74. Calsdad says:
    @SnakeEyes
    The termination of DACA has proven useful at exposing the bottom line position of the pro-unrestricted immigration set. Boot explicitly says that "anyone who embraces America's ideals can become an American".

    Sounds like Boot just admitted he’s not an American then…..

    Because he’s CONSTANTLY been an advocate for overseas intervention and unrestricted immigration. Both of which go against the American ideals that I understand. At least before the progressives started destroying the Republic.

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  75. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rod1963
    I saw Tucker Carlson interview Boot a month or so ago. Boot came off totally unhinged and comical. Tucker was actually laughing at him. BTW most of the Russiaphobes come off the same way. Schiff is a great example.

    The point is with these neo-con nutters, once you get them out of the MSM butt kissing bubble and really talk to them, they do come off as total nut jobs worthy of only ridicule. They really are quite stupid men, most can't argue their position for anything. All they do is repeat talking points and outshout their host.

    I just wish someone would point out to the looney tune, that his strategy flipped Iraq into the hands of Iran and they are now the rulers of Iraq through their proxy in Baghdad.

    I just wish someone would point out to the looney tune, that his strategy flipped Iraq into the hands of Iran and they are now the rulers of Iraq through their proxy in Baghdad.

    U.S. SOF and CIA were on the ground in Syria in as early as 2011 training and arming jihadis to overthrow the secular Assad government. Israel directly helped ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, et Al. The UK, US, the Gulfies, etc., funneled arms, money, and jihadis into Syria. Bulgarian reporter Dilyana Gaytandzhieva uncovered records showing the U.S. funneled $1.5 billion in arms to Syria (good thing that things are perfect here and we don’t need that money spent here in America!).

    Now in Syria, Israel finds itself in a much more precarious position prior to the civil war that they instigated. With Russia and Iran and Hizbullah. And all this transpiring as the American empire is in decline at an increasing rate.

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  76. Edster says:

    “White” is apparently the only non-reducible identity left. Boot can claim to be “white” until some policy decisions don’t go his way then he can be “jewish”, “russian” or whatever.

    The only “white” people are the ones that can’t, don’t or won’t claim to be anything else when it’s convenient to them.

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  77. @Peter Akuleyev
    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”

    Reagan said basically the same thing in 1988. That's been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.

    That’s been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.

    It was a mistaken policy that lead to our downfall.

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  78. Lil Maxie Boot thought the only thing wrong with the war in Afghanistan was that there was not enough American blood being wasted. He is more than welcome to go back to Russia or to Israel. Or he can take a helicopter ride.

    “This is not a war being won with American blood and guts. It is being won with the blood and guts of the Northern Alliance, helped by copious quantities of American ordnance and a handful of American advisers. After Sept. 11, President Bush promised that this would not be another bloodless, push-button war, but that is precisely what it has been.” http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j111901.html

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  79. Max Boot is an evil Neo-Con who pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration. Max Boot wants to bog down the American Empire in unnecessary overseas war. Max Boot was a big backer of the Iraq War debacle.

    I wrote this about a week ago about the Neo-Cons; it fits perfectly in regards to Neo-Con Max Boot:

    I personally hate the Neo-Cons. I have no problem admitting it. The Neo-Cons are warmongers who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States. The Neo-Cons are treasonous scum of the worst sort. George W Bush is the man responsible for the Iraq War debacle, of that there is no doubt, but the Neo-Cons in the corporate media were screaming bloody murder for regime change in the Middle East — and the bastards are still screaming for more endless overseas war.

    Max Boot, John Podhoretz, William Kristol and the other Neo-Cons are evil scum who want to flood the United States with foreigners. Boot, Podhoretz and Kristol continuously push for the American Empire to be engaged in endless overseas war. Boot, Podhoretz and Kristol are actively hostile to the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    It was a mistake for the United States to allow the ancestors of Podhoretz and Kristol to immigrate to the territory of the United States. It was a mistake for the United States to allow Max Boot to immigrate. Max Boot is an immigrant ingrate of the worst sort.

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  80. Calsdad says:
    @Stogumber
    His big error is of course: He convinced hinself that he embraced "American values". But why should the genuinely bolshevist ideas - world wide war, world wide regime change and world empire, for the sake of whatever - be "American values"?

    Did he convince himself – or did he convince a bunch of “Americans” – to go against their best interests.

    The whole non-stop overseas intervention thing has been something that I have always seen as un-American. When Ron Paul tried his run for President (which he admits was more an effort to get his ideals in front of a mass audience than a very serious run for the Presidency – he also admits he figured they probably kill him if he actually won) …. one of the the things he brought up constantly was dumping all the foreign intervention – and taking care of ourselves – FIRST.

    A whole bunch of people – like Max Boot (and other neocons) , constantly derided Paul as an “isolationist”. So to the non-thinking masses what got put across was a guy who wanted to make the US into a national version of the Unabomber – living out in the woods with no contact with the outside world.

    Isolation is one of those manipulative words used by leftists , along with homophobia, islamophobia, sexism, racism – etc. I am not “phobic” of you – I don’t like you – there’s a difference. It’s not sexism or racism to be aware of very obvious differences – and it’s not isolationism to want to not go around sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong. It’s called minding your own damn business.

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  81. Yawn…….another destructive, anti American, ungrateful Jew……..

    The left has already largely soured on them because of their treatment of Palestinians so it’s really the Christ cucks who need to be held accountable for treating these people with anything other than the contempt they should be.

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  82. This Tweet is from 2015:

    Max Boot and the Neo-Cons push mass immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Baby boomer rat Hillary Clinton and her Humanitarian Interventionist Harpies are directly responsible for the Libyan mess.

    The Republican Party Neo-Cons and the Democrat Party Humanitarian Interventionist Harpies are a clear and present threat to the national security interests of the United States. President Trump must remove the Neo-Cons and the Humanitarian Interventionist Harpies from any government position that allows them to have a voice on foreign policy.

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  83. @Buck Turgidson
    Good grief someone has really lost their cookies. What is it exactly this guy does for a living? I dont think he is up to taking out the trash.

    Max get yourself a therapist if you dont already have one. And some pills.

    Plenty of sinecures for resentful aliens in The Think Tank Archipelago. Here’s Frederick Kagan and his wife strolling around Basra.

    Poisonous institutions. Gussied-up lobbyists for the military-industrial complex and foreign interests.

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    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Is that Jennifer Rubin?
    , @AnotherDad
    Holy Cow!
    , @Yak-15
    That monstrously fat man has brought along his teenage boy lover to Iraq. . .
  84. maciano says:

    Neocons like Boot don’t belong in America. They should go to the country they really love.

    After they’ve served 20 (if it was up to me: 40) years of jail time for high treason.

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  85. @(((Echo)))
    Why do (((they))) insist on destroying the countries that take them in? It wasn't enough that his people destroyed Russia with communism?

    Fear of assimilation.

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  86. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Plenty of sinecures for resentful aliens in The Think Tank Archipelago. Here's Frederick Kagan and his wife strolling around Basra.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Frederick_and_Kimberly_Kagan_in_Basra.jpg

    Poisonous institutions. Gussied-up lobbyists for the military-industrial complex and foreign interests.

    Is that Jennifer Rubin?

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  87. @Peter Akuleyev

    imperialist focused on the interests of a nation (Russia), dominated to large extent by non-Russian minorities (like Stalin)
     
    Over time Stalin turned into a de facto Russian nationalist. He didn't really trust minorities and saw ethnic Russians as the glue that kept the country together. The ruling class of the USSR from the 1940s on was even more ethnic Russian than it had been under the late Romanov emperors (where Polish, Tatar and German aristocrats occupied a lot of high offices and military roles).

    Did Stalin not have the same genocidal motivations as the Bolsheviks had?

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  88. Haha, I did a cntrl-f for “go back” in the comments here and got 3 hits! Nice, saves me time, as I haven’t read the comments yet and don’t want to be repetitive.

    That’s easy for us to say “you have to go back”. Think of the poor Russians, though. This guy said he’d rather vote for Joseph Stalin than Trump? I can see Vlad now, in his next speech “The Amerikanskis – they’re not sending their best.”

    Oh, and great last sentence, Steve.

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  89. @Anonymous
    Other than Israel, where would Jews unhappy with America go?

    Max Boot types might go to Israel, but most liberal Jews don't seem interested in that.

    No other place will give them the opportunities and safety they've enjoyed here.

    Canada? Australia? New Zealand? Germany? Latin America?

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  90. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @fnn

    He must be aware of how many millions Stalin killed...
     
    Even the saintly Lenin was no slouch:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Industrial_workers

    In the city of Astrakhan, strikers and Red Army soldiers who joined them were loaded onto barges and then thrown by the hundreds into the Volga with stones around their necks. Between 2,000 and 4,000 were shot or drowned between 12 and 14 March 1919. In addition, the repression also claimed the lives of some 600 to 1,000 of the bourgeoisie. Archival documents indicate this was the largest massacre of workers by the Bolsheviks before the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion.[24]
    However, strikes continued. Lenin had concerns about the tense situation regarding workers in the Ural region. On 29 January 1920, he sent a telegram to Vladimir Smirnov stating "I am surprised that you are taking the matter so lightly, and are not immediately executing large numbers of strikers for the crime of sabotage".[25]
     
    Atrocities

    At these times, there were numerous reports that Cheka interrogators used torture methods which were, according to Orlando Figes, "matched only by the Spanish Inquisition."[26] At Odessa the Cheka tied White officers to planks and slowly fed them into furnaces or tanks of boiling water; in Kharkiv, scalpings and hand-flayings were commonplace: the skin was peeled off victims' hands to produce "gloves"; the Voronezh Cheka rolled naked people around in barrels studded internally with nails; victims were crucified or stoned to death at Dnipropetrovsk; the Cheka at Kremenchuk impaled members of the clergy and buried alive rebelling peasants; in Orel, water was poured on naked prisoners bound in the winter streets until they became living ice statues; in Kiev, Chinese Cheka detachments placed rats in iron tubes sealed at one end with wire netting and the other placed against the body of a prisoner, with the tubes being heated until the rats gnawed through the victim's body in an effort to escape.[27]

    Executions took place in prison cellars or courtyards, or occasionally on the outskirts of town, during the Red Terror and Russian Civil War. After the condemned were stripped of their clothing and other belongings, which were shared among the Cheka executioners, they were either machine-gunned in batches or dispatched individually with a revolver. Those killed in prison were usually shot in the back of the neck as they entered the execution cellar, which became littered with corpses and soaked with blood. Victims killed outside the town were moved by truck, bound and gagged, to their place of execution, where they sometimes were made to dig their own graves.[28]

    According to Edvard Radzinsky, "it became a common practice to take a husband hostage and wait for his wife to come and purchase his life with her body".[3] During Decossackization, there were massacres, according to historian Robert Gellately, "on an unheard of scale". The Pyatigorsk Cheka organized a "day of Red Terror" to execute 300 people in one day, and took quotas from each part of town. According to the Chekist Karl Lander, the Cheka in Kislovodsk, "for lack of a better idea", killed all the patients in the hospital. In October 1920 alone more than 6,000 people were executed. Gellately adds that Communist leaders "sought to justify their ethnic-based massacres by incorporating them into the rubric of the 'class struggle'".[29]

    Members of the clergy were subjected to particularly brutal abuse. According to documents cited by the late Alexander Yakovlev, then head of the Presidential Committee for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression, priests, monks and nuns were crucified, thrown into cauldrons of boiling tar, scalped, strangled, given Communion with melted lead and drowned in holes in the ice.[30] An estimated 3,000 were put to death in 1918 alone.[30]
     

    Probably worth highlighting:

    Gellately adds that Communist leaders “sought to justify their ethnic-based massacres by incorporating them into the rubric of the ‘class struggle’”.[29]

    What did he mean by this?

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  91. AM says:

    “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

    Ah, the zeroth amendment strikes again. It’s hard to imagine the chutzpah of Steven Miller, claiming it was just a piece of poetry added later to a statue that was actually supposed to be about our liberty, not our ability to absorb the world’s downtrodden. So unAmerican, along with every civics class ever taught.

    I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted as a boy in 1976. That is discomfiting for me, and a tragedy for America.

    This is perhaps less of a tragedy for America than he imagines. ;) At any rate, more winning and more MAGA. He’s no longer imagining his personal viewpoint is what all of America wants.

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  92. @Daniel H
    >>So people are often surprised to find out that I wasn’t born in the United States. When I tell them where I’m from, they often ask, “Were your parents diplomats?” Nope. My parents were Russian Jews who fled the oppression of the Soviet Union and found a haven in the Land of Opportunity.<<

    Bullshit. When asked how he and his family acquired such a coveted visa, nobody with an IQ over 85 assumed that Boot's parents were diplomats and not Jews.

    You overestimate the public’s awareness of jewish privilege.

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    Is the public that aware of diplomatic privilege? I guess sitcoms touch upon the parking ticket issue, and the bad guy in Lethal Weapon II kept crowing about "diplomatic immunity!"

    Anyway, I don't think the foreign diplomats are supposed to be granted U.S. citizenship. (Though it wouldn't surprise me one bit to learn they are.) Traditionally, they don't become citizens of any countries their parents visit in an official capacity. That's not part of being a diplomat. So why would people ask about that, regardless of their knowledge of Jewish Privilege?

  93. Tyrion says:
    @Muttonchops
    Max Boot's father, Alexander Boot, has his own blog here:
    http://www.alexanderboot.com/blog/
    Alexander Boot writes from a reactionary, conservative, Christian perspective (he converted from Judaism).
    He is the author of several books including How the West Was Lost, The Crisis Behind Our Crisis, How the Future Worked and Democracy as a Neocon Trick. He also writes occasionally for The Daily Mail among others. I have often thought his articles would fit well on the Unz Review.

    Max Boot takes everything he writes about in this article so personally. Whether the playground bullying of the social media Nazi LARPers or Trump, DACA and everything else together. He reaches for and clutches his pearls every paragraph, so much his neck must be in agony.

    It is not however an article written with deep conviction. It mentions something and gasps. And then another thing and gasps again and on and on and on. Smart people like Max love to go into detail on what they are convinced about, not so here.

    Perhaps Max Boot very much wants to be a Conservative – the cool kids in the 80s, or maybe because it is more macho – it must have been hard having a strong Russian accent at American high school at the height of the Cold War.

    But then his true Conservative and anti-Neocon father seems to have moved away when Max was just 18/19. Alexander Boot left the US for the UK. He left the country that gave them initial refuge, he left Max. Funny how this article seems to be replaying that family drama with Trump as Papa Boot. Max, just call your Dad and tell him what you think. Articles like this won’t help.

    Funny also how Max seems to have gone down the runaway to the Army route, like so many young men who are angry at their fathers, although in his case his route was adjusted to be a bit more suitable for an egghead intellectual.

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  94. sb says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Did Boot get it from Waugh's "Scoop?"

    It would be a nice touch if his name was some kind of nom de plume homage to Waugh but I don’t think this guy does nice touches

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  95. @Broski
    There's no such thing as a Russian American, mofo.

    There’s no such thing as a Russian American, [...]

    Humbled, I agree.

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  96. @Anonymous
    Anyhow, I much prefer the late English comic performer Max Wall - his absurd routine was far far superior to anything Boot can kick up.

    the late English comic performer Max Wall

    “I was crossing the river on a very narrow footbridge. A beautiful young woman was crossing the other way, coming towards me. I couldn’t decide whether to block her passage or toss myself off.”

    (IIRC that’s the one that got him dropped by the BBC.)

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    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @bored identity
    bored identity is sick and tired of their echo-chambering Asymmetric Simulated Assimilation.

    And to make it even worse, They Live, Stroll & Destroy totally protected under the umbrella of Ugly Americanism.

    BTW,bored identity admires yours " The Think Tank Archipelago" - it is multilevel, double plus good, and definitelly deserves to be added to Noticing Scrolls of some future Sailerpedia.
    , @Poet Laureate of Unz
    Jack and Jill worked at the mill
    When business did slack off
    Bill the boss had to choose
    To lay Jill or Jack off
    , @Broski
    "[B]lock her passage or toss myself off"

    These must be English sex euphemisms that are lost on Americans. I think I can figure it out, though.
    , @Vinteuil
    Was it Max Wall, or Max Miller? There seems to be some controversy over this point.
  97. @Immigrant from former USSR

    There’s no such thing as a Russian American, [...]
     
    Humbled, I agree.

    Why isn’t there?

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    Because "anything hyphen American" is not American. That is why the melting pot did not work and why all immigration to the US after 1800 has been bad for our nation.
  98. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rod1963
    I saw Tucker Carlson interview Boot a month or so ago. Boot came off totally unhinged and comical. Tucker was actually laughing at him. BTW most of the Russiaphobes come off the same way. Schiff is a great example.

    The point is with these neo-con nutters, once you get them out of the MSM butt kissing bubble and really talk to them, they do come off as total nut jobs worthy of only ridicule. They really are quite stupid men, most can't argue their position for anything. All they do is repeat talking points and outshout their host.

    I just wish someone would point out to the looney tune, that his strategy flipped Iraq into the hands of Iran and they are now the rulers of Iraq through their proxy in Baghdad.

    Boot came off totally unhinged and comical. Tucker was actually laughing at him. BTW most of the Russiaphobes come off the same way. Schiff is a great example.

    They appear to have an irrational hatred of Russians. Now if only there were a term, a bit stronger than a ‘phobe’, for one having such an irrational hatred for a specific group of people based upon ethnic and/or religious ties.

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  99. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Peter Akuleyev

    imperialist focused on the interests of a nation (Russia), dominated to large extent by non-Russian minorities (like Stalin)
     
    Over time Stalin turned into a de facto Russian nationalist. He didn't really trust minorities and saw ethnic Russians as the glue that kept the country together. The ruling class of the USSR from the 1940s on was even more ethnic Russian than it had been under the late Romanov emperors (where Polish, Tatar and German aristocrats occupied a lot of high offices and military roles).

    Stalin didn’t trust anyone, except possibly his fellow Georgian Beria.

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    I recall reading Adam Ulam's biography of Stalin. Ulam wrote that Stalin relied on his judgment of men. Of Stalin, Ulam wrote, "The word 'Trust' was incompatible with the man."
  100. I think das boot wouldn’t meet Israel’s immigration standards, so we’re stuck with Mr. No longer American.

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  101. LondonBob says:
    @Muttonchops
    Max Boot's father, Alexander Boot, has his own blog here:
    http://www.alexanderboot.com/blog/
    Alexander Boot writes from a reactionary, conservative, Christian perspective (he converted from Judaism).
    He is the author of several books including How the West Was Lost, The Crisis Behind Our Crisis, How the Future Worked and Democracy as a Neocon Trick. He also writes occasionally for The Daily Mail among others. I have often thought his articles would fit well on the Unz Review.

    Seems as confused as his son, all over the place.

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  102. conatus says:
    @Achilles

    Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.
     
    Have we reached Peak Jew Hysteria yet?

    I would venture to guess that as a child Max was not disciplined but rather indulged by his parents. Under my Theory of Jewish Child-Raising, tantrums are not punished but rather rewarded in many Jewish families, and thus they progress from spoiled children to neurotic and manipulative adults who try to get their way by personalizing disagreement and conjuring up psychodramas to inflict on others.


    The old idea that anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American is out. Instead, American-ness is being redefined in blood-and-soil terms.... I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted as a boy in 1976.
     
    Russian Jews would never have created anything like the American nation. No doubt the "ideals" Boot has in mind when he thinks of American ideals are a cherry-picked set that so happen to help advance his own agenda.

    The ideals that naturally arise from the culture of secularized Russian Jews are probably best represented by the thinking of Lev Bronstein, updated to take into account the undeniable failure of communism, to something like "Globalism in Every Country" through a permanent, ongoing campaign of destruction of the gentile nation-states. These are the ideals of Max Boot, and they are alien to America as founded and for most of our history.

    “Under my Theory of Jewish Child-Raising, tantrums are not punished but rather rewarded in many Jewish families, and thus they progress from spoiled children to neurotic and manipulative adults who try to get their way by personalizing disagreement and conjuring up psychodramas to inflict on others.”

    I agree and have said the same thing many times.
    THE most spoiled ethnicity in the world. But that would be OK with them, the word “THE” is tattooed in their synapses as they mature. The biggest victims, the smartest people, the wealthiest, the most moral, the chosen ones. A completely different species of human, unlike the rest of us cows.

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  103. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    He and his fellow travelers have caused a lot of ordinary American kids to get killed as well as many more of the residents of countries the US has visited. Thanks for the prosthesis, Maxie. Their true colors have been showing through these days. They have just contempt and hatred of the ordinary American as well as considering Middle Easterners to be fit only for slaughter. They’ve also tried to incite conflict with the Russians whom they also apparently hate. He’d rather have voted for Stalin? Stalin would have had him holding a pickaxe in a camp somewhere near the Arctic circle, a much more suitable role for this soft dilettante.

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  104. @John Derbyshire

    the late English comic performer Max Wall
     
    "I was crossing the river on a very narrow footbridge. A beautiful young woman was crossing the other way, coming towards me. I couldn't decide whether to block her passage or toss myself off."

    (IIRC that's the one that got him dropped by the BBC.)

    bored identity is sick and tired of their echo-chambering Asymmetric Simulated Assimilation.

    And to make it even worse, They Live, Stroll & Destroy totally protected under the umbrella of Ugly Americanism.

    BTW,bored identity admires yours ” The Think Tank Archipelago” – it is multilevel, double plus good, and definitelly deserves to be added to Noticing Scrolls of some future Sailerpedia.

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  105. Pericles says:
    @Altai
    Don't forget when Summers, Geithner et al ransacked it with the help of local psychopaths after the fall of the Soviet Union, hence we have a strongman leader in Putin now, but this must be memory-holed. As must the fact that what was done to Russia in the 90s was a trial run for the policies currently unravelling the West.

    The Great Harvard Heist.

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  106. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Wilkey
    I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted...

    It's amazing how quickly he decided to drop his Americanness and pick up the mantle of his ethnic identity. I mean one election doesn't go his way and boom, he's outta here.

    I certainly don't think Jews "run America," but even the current domestic and international policies of our government - whether on trade, taxes, immigration, foreign policy, or whatever - are probably closer to those of your average Jew than they are to the average views of any other ethnic group in this country, including founding stock Americans. That's to say nothing of the policies of the last 4+ presidents, which were generally even more closely aligned with Jewish thinking.

    The chairman and vice-chairman of the Fed are both Jewish, as is 33% of the Supreme Court. I count 8 Jews in the US Senate. While that's about 4x their share of the US population it is actually low by recent standards.

    But if Trump's election is enough to make make Max Boot want to take his ball and go home. Fine, he can leave. I'd love to see him move to Israel, if for no other reason than to see if he'd advocate the same open borders policy for Israel that he's been advocating for the US. I mean no matter how smart Max Boot is it definitely requires a special kind of insanity to want the overwhelming majority of your country's military to be staffed by people with absolutely zero loyalty to the country's citizens. I'm sure Israel could find plenty of Muslim Arab foreigners willing to take up arms in its military in its defense. What have they got to lose?

    It’s amazing how quickly he decided to drop his Americanness and pick up the mantle of his ethnic identity. I mean one election doesn’t go his way and boom, he’s outta here.

    “Rootless cosmopolitan”?

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    • Replies: @Broski
    Indeed. It's almost like he's . . . international. Like he has . . . dual loyalties.

    *Abe Foxman pops out of your screen* "Canards!"
  107. @Peter Akuleyev
    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”

    Reagan said basically the same thing in 1988. That's been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.

    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?

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    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?
     
    All laws are inferior to the Zeroth Amendment. And you're ignoring the fact that these "DREAMers" - even more than foreigners living abroad who have the right to move here - have been breaking the law and evading the consequences for a very long time. This builds some kind of "citizenship capital" that entitles them to legal status.

    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”
     
    Boot's Americanism is transactional and conditional - he'll be an American as long as the United States does what he likes. The idea that there are compelling criticisms of the Zeroth Amendment Uniparty position does not occur to him - America is what it does for him and people like him. It's not a place and a people with a culture and history to be preserved and carefully stewarded for the next generation. What might benefit actual Americans is not something for which Boot feels he should have to give an account at all.
    , @AM

    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?
     
    It's much easier to embrace "American ideals" when you pretend they include "feelz for victim groups" and "all the natives here should work hard to make me, personally feel comfortable".
  108. @Peter Akuleyev
    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”

    Reagan said basically the same thing in 1988. That's been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.

    There’s a big difference between saying that the US doesn’t have an ethnicity or religion test for membership and saying that membership is open to anyone who idealizes the US.

    And make no mistake: idealizing is what we’re talking about. When Boot says anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become a citizen, the ideals he is talking about basically amount to agreeing that anyone who embraces the ideals can be admitted. It’s kind of a recursive nationality. As with any infinity mirror, the repetitive form has only one source. OBEY GIANT.

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    • Replies: @bomag

    When Boot says anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become a citizen, the ideals he is talking about basically amount to agreeing that anyone who embraces the ideals can be admitted
     
    And we don't even get that. Our latest wonderful wave of immigrants aren't all that keen on American ideals; they are more interested in setting up their own homeland and proselytizing for those values. They stay no matter what values they embrace.
  109. @Daniel Chieh
    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?

    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?

    All laws are inferior to the Zeroth Amendment. And you’re ignoring the fact that these “DREAMers” – even more than foreigners living abroad who have the right to move here – have been breaking the law and evading the consequences for a very long time. This builds some kind of “citizenship capital” that entitles them to legal status.

    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”

    Boot’s Americanism is transactional and conditional – he’ll be an American as long as the United States does what he likes. The idea that there are compelling criticisms of the Zeroth Amendment Uniparty position does not occur to him – America is what it does for him and people like him. It’s not a place and a people with a culture and history to be preserved and carefully stewarded for the next generation. What might benefit actual Americans is not something for which Boot feels he should have to give an account at all.

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    • Replies: @guest
    "Boot's Americanism is transactional and conditional -- he'll be an American as long as the United States does what he likes"

    Yes, and it's Donald Trump who broke the contract, because "blood and soil." (Which is what Nazis say. Nazis! [Did I mention I'm Jewish?]) If these were the Bad Old Days, Trump'd be at fault in the Boot v. U.S. divorce case. (The Donald has had more than his share of those, admittedly.)

    Back when he was married to the U.S , Boot was as American as George Washington. He's free to flee into his ethnicity, because the scary white man spooked him. But that doesn't change the past. Or the future, because he could become as American as George Washington again if he felt like it.

    When they're with us, they're us. More us than us, really, because we were born here and therefore don't appreciate it. But when they're not feeling it anymore (ja feel?), they're not us at all. "Us? Eww! Us is Trump now; how could I be that? Get back to me in 2020, and maybe I'll join you again. In the meantime I'm outta here."

    Because national identity is like that. Almost like the way certain nomadic tribes used to view the territory upon which they squatted.

  110. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Plenty of sinecures for resentful aliens in The Think Tank Archipelago. Here's Frederick Kagan and his wife strolling around Basra.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Frederick_and_Kimberly_Kagan_in_Basra.jpg

    Poisonous institutions. Gussied-up lobbyists for the military-industrial complex and foreign interests.

    Holy Cow!

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  111. Yada yada says:

    It’s amazing to see how Jews never change in their attitudes. Self awareness definitely is not a trait that many Jews have. If you listen to the broadcasts of Father Charles Coughlin, from the 30′s and 40′s mind you, he talks about the Jews having the same problem then. He mentions the idea they have of their own racial superiority, their view that the Jewish race is its own messiah destined to rule over all other peoples and their desire to make the United States the world’s policeman. Max Boot is Jewish arrogance writ large.

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  112. Yada yada says:

    I hope Mr Boot makes aliyah soon. There he can stop being a rootless cosmopolite and he won’t have to deal with us crummy gentiles anymore.

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  113. Yada yada says:
    @Achilles

    Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.
     
    Have we reached Peak Jew Hysteria yet?

    I would venture to guess that as a child Max was not disciplined but rather indulged by his parents. Under my Theory of Jewish Child-Raising, tantrums are not punished but rather rewarded in many Jewish families, and thus they progress from spoiled children to neurotic and manipulative adults who try to get their way by personalizing disagreement and conjuring up psychodramas to inflict on others.


    The old idea that anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American is out. Instead, American-ness is being redefined in blood-and-soil terms.... I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted as a boy in 1976.
     
    Russian Jews would never have created anything like the American nation. No doubt the "ideals" Boot has in mind when he thinks of American ideals are a cherry-picked set that so happen to help advance his own agenda.

    The ideals that naturally arise from the culture of secularized Russian Jews are probably best represented by the thinking of Lev Bronstein, updated to take into account the undeniable failure of communism, to something like "Globalism in Every Country" through a permanent, ongoing campaign of destruction of the gentile nation-states. These are the ideals of Max Boot, and they are alien to America as founded and for most of our history.

    You might even go so far as to say that most of Jewish culture is built and predicated on narcissism.

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  114. @Muttonchops
    Max Boot's father, Alexander Boot, has his own blog here:
    http://www.alexanderboot.com/blog/
    Alexander Boot writes from a reactionary, conservative, Christian perspective (he converted from Judaism).
    He is the author of several books including How the West Was Lost, The Crisis Behind Our Crisis, How the Future Worked and Democracy as a Neocon Trick. He also writes occasionally for The Daily Mail among others. I have often thought his articles would fit well on the Unz Review.

    Wait, wait… So he’s (((a Christian)))? My mind is blown!

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  115. Beckow says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    imperialist focused on the interests of a nation (Russia), dominated to large extent by non-Russian minorities (like Stalin)
     
    Over time Stalin turned into a de facto Russian nationalist. He didn't really trust minorities and saw ethnic Russians as the glue that kept the country together. The ruling class of the USSR from the 1940s on was even more ethnic Russian than it had been under the late Romanov emperors (where Polish, Tatar and German aristocrats occupied a lot of high offices and military roles).

    Stalin had a good peasant instinct and understood that what is closer is better and what is more populous is stronger. He easily defeated the internationalists once the revolutionary fervour subsided. The crazy one-world Marxists had nothing to offer to a regular person.

    Boot and his globalist company are direct descendants of the utopian madness of early communists. They even have similar post-modern social views – see Russia’s culture in the 20′s – and platitudes about the ‘brotherhood of men’.

    Most of human history is about borders, where precisely they are drawn, and who gets to live where. Without borders there can be no society or civilization. Most people understand it, Max Boot doesn’t, or pretends not to. I think that ‘open border’ types simply hate their own societies. It is easier to claim to ‘love the mankind’ than to admit to not liking one’s society. Max Boot hated Russia (his previous society), now he seems to be ready to admit that he also hates America. But he loves mankind, so I guess it is ok….

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    • Replies: @Dmitry134564
    His previous society (or that of his parents), was the Soviet Union. Not difficult to hate that.

    As for America - obviously he likes it. Not sure why people are so polarized, that they have to exaggerate like this.
  116. 3g4me says:
    @SnakeEyes
    The termination of DACA has proven useful at exposing the bottom line position of the pro-unrestricted immigration set. Boot explicitly says that "anyone who embraces America's ideals can become an American".

    @10 SnakeEyes: “Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.”

    That is precisely what “citizenism” claims – as opposed to some degree or other of blood and soil nationalism, i.e. ethnic nationalism, i.e. identitarianism, i.e alt-right, which I support.

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    • Replies: @guest
    "That is precisely what 'citizenism' claims"

    Do any two people agree up on what is required to be a citizen under citizenism? There's going to be some process, and all of the people who are citizens as a result are going to be True Americans, and the only kind of American that matter, politically. (Not counting the natural born clause.)

    Is agreeing with "America's ideals" (whatever those are) necessarily part of the process?
    , @AnotherDad

    @10 SnakeEyes: “Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.”

    That is precisely what “citizenism” claims
     
    Let's unpack this confusion:

    A) What "citizenism" claims is that the nation belongs to and is supposed to be run for the benefit of its citizens. I.e. not foreigners. Not foreigners who subscribe to "American ideals". Not want to become citizens. Not even foreigners who will in the future become citizens. But rather ... its actual citizens.

    Citizenism does not preclude some sort of immigration policy. But the default policy--as is easy to mathematically/logically demonstrate--is zero. There's no good reason to let in anyone. The only reason you would is if they have such skills/genes that the benefit to all the *existing* citizens--including benefits they derive form the future well being of their progeny--outweigh costs. This is rare. But the key point is just this question--like all questions of public policy--is weighed from the perspective of current citizens, not foreigners.

    B) “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”
    The confusion here is the "can"/"may" thing--able to vs. allowed to. Saying that anyone who embraces American ideals can become an American could just mean capability. If they were allowed to immigrate to America, and truly embraced American ideals, they could become an American. Arguable. I'd say that there's more--embracing American culture, traditions, history and people. (That you are explicitly giving up your race and culture to join the American one.) But I don't think one requires a direct genetic lineage to the founders (and yes, I have one) to be an American. In any case this statement is definitely not a tenet of citizenism, rather it's an arguable point.

    But what Boot is doing is trying to steal a base. He's implying that if you can wiggle your way in and embrace some unspecified "American ideals" then poof, you're as American as anyone. Furthermore, his amorphous use of "can" is sort of implying that anyone embracing his "American ideals" is fit to be, ought to be--and at least sort of hinting at--entitled to be an American. This--any sort of "ought" or "entitled"--is obviously quite counter to "citizenism" and in fact to any concept of a nation whatsoever.
  117. GregMan says:

    “Max Boot, Mr. Invade-The-World-Invite-The-World, Doesn’t Feel Like an American Anymore”

    Good. Leave.

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  118. AM says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?

    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?

    It’s much easier to embrace “American ideals” when you pretend they include “feelz for victim groups” and “all the natives here should work hard to make me, personally feel comfortable”.

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  119. @Seamus Padraig

    For example, on March 2, 2016 Max Boot told the New York Times: “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump.”
     
    Does Boot suffer from a subconscious desire to be purged like the (((Trotskyites)))?

    Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.
     
    He feels Russian? Hasn't he been one of those people actively promoting all the Russophobia recently?

    Good point!! Dude’s a drama queen too. I am sure his life is so hard.

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  120. Forbes says:
    @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Does he mention whether his parents came legally? Did they go through a legally defined process? Does he think there should be ANY limits on immigration?

    Does he mention whether his parents came legally?

    Sounds like not.

    Did they go through a legally defined process?

    Sounds like Jackson-Vanik.

    Boot: “My family’s case was somewhat different in that we received legal status as refugees after arriving here, and in time we became citizens.”

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  121. Broski says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    Here's a clip of a recent exchange between Tucker and Boot on Fox. Tucker makes alot of the points you have made about his foreign policy prescriptions - to his face

    https://youtu.be/4HjVipLZYns?t=1m58s

    Regarding foreigners with made up names:

    When I encounter an obvious foreigner with a too-American sounding name it's always been a warning sign for me that every word out of this persons mouth is a lie including and and the.

    Beautiful! Tucker Carlson has come into his own in the last couple years.

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  122. @John Derbyshire

    the late English comic performer Max Wall
     
    "I was crossing the river on a very narrow footbridge. A beautiful young woman was crossing the other way, coming towards me. I couldn't decide whether to block her passage or toss myself off."

    (IIRC that's the one that got him dropped by the BBC.)

    Jack and Jill worked at the mill
    When business did slack off
    Bill the boss had to choose
    To lay Jill or Jack off

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    OK, I think the joke has been sufficiently explained.
  123. Broski says:
    @John Derbyshire

    the late English comic performer Max Wall
     
    "I was crossing the river on a very narrow footbridge. A beautiful young woman was crossing the other way, coming towards me. I couldn't decide whether to block her passage or toss myself off."

    (IIRC that's the one that got him dropped by the BBC.)

    “[B]lock her passage or toss myself off”

    These must be English sex euphemisms that are lost on Americans. I think I can figure it out, though.

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    I wonder if there is an etymological cinnection between "to toss off" and "to toss one's salad"...

    My favorite Britishism is "knackered." I had to look up what a knacker is; a great addition to my vocabulary.
  124. @Muttonchops
    Max Boot's father, Alexander Boot, has his own blog here:
    http://www.alexanderboot.com/blog/
    Alexander Boot writes from a reactionary, conservative, Christian perspective (he converted from Judaism).
    He is the author of several books including How the West Was Lost, The Crisis Behind Our Crisis, How the Future Worked and Democracy as a Neocon Trick. He also writes occasionally for The Daily Mail among others. I have often thought his articles would fit well on the Unz Review.

    Well, well, well.
    I read Alexander Boot’s blog regularly. It is good rather than great, and it’s deep anti-Putinism has always puzzled me.

    Until now.

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  125. Yak-15 says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Plenty of sinecures for resentful aliens in The Think Tank Archipelago. Here's Frederick Kagan and his wife strolling around Basra.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Frederick_and_Kimberly_Kagan_in_Basra.jpg

    Poisonous institutions. Gussied-up lobbyists for the military-industrial complex and foreign interests.

    That monstrously fat man has brought along his teenage boy lover to Iraq. . .

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  126. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    And here I was, sure that Max “Albino Hellfire” Boot, Esq. emigrated not from Over There but rather Down Under (where men chunder). I mean, the Boot is even emblazoned on their flag

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  127. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @jesse helms think-alike
    Jewish emigration from the USSR in the 70's was the result of the Jackson Vanik amendment

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson%E2%80%93Vanik_amendment


    The amendment would deny normal trade relations to certain countries with non-market economies that restricted freedom of emigration. The amendment was intended to allow primarily Jewish refugees and other religious minorities to escape from the Soviet Bloc.

    From 1972 to January 1975, Congress debated and added the Jackson-Vanik Amendment to the 1972 Trade Reform Act, which restricted the President’s ability to provide most favored nation (MFN) status to the Soviet Union and other non-market economies that formed the Soviet bloc.

    Jackson's staffer Richard Perle said in an interview that the idea belonged to Jackson, who believed that the right to emigrate was the most powerful among the human rights
     

    wikipedia article is complicated and confusing but net result of this amendment was to allow 100s of thousands of soviet jews (and those willing to pretend to be jews) to emigrate to US and Israel in the mid to late 70's

    Isn’t Perle from pre-Iranian Beverly Hills, or rather its high school (where he dated Albert Wohlstetter’s daughter & landed the coffee boy assignment at RAND Corp)? The essential classic William-Morris-mailroom story, except in Santa Monica, which was trashier back then; or actually, like it’s becoming again now… Anyway why not join the Feith brothers at whatever Paraguyan airstrip they use to stash the loot? Not as if he’s busy at the moment.

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  128. Luke Lea says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    Here's a clip of a recent exchange between Tucker and Boot on Fox. Tucker makes alot of the points you have made about his foreign policy prescriptions - to his face

    https://youtu.be/4HjVipLZYns?t=1m58s

    Regarding foreigners with made up names:

    When I encounter an obvious foreigner with a too-American sounding name it's always been a warning sign for me that every word out of this persons mouth is a lie including and and the.

    Sometimes, but not often, it’s fun to watch Tucker bitch slap a loony guest.

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  129. Art says:

    on March 2, 2016 Max Boot told the New York Times: “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump.”

    What a stupid stupid statement. Max stupid!

    This hateful guy is a senior fellow Council on Foreign Relations. Why should anyone respect the judgment of the CFR?

    Major kudos to Tucker Carlson – he eat little Maxie’s lunch on his program – it was beautiful.

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  130. Sean says:

    Neocons can have a Jewish Israel or a universal America, not both. Boot cares about Israel less than making the US a universal nation. Norman Podhoretz is mainly concerned with Israel remaining a Jewish
    and not turning into Apartheid SA, and that is why he preferred Trump. Or maybe Boot really believes Israel can go on as it is indefinitely, and he knows better than Ehud Barak.

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  131. neutral says:

    The thing with his “everyone can become American” is that it is not even some kind of exceptional American thing, the same nonsense is used exactly the same way for Sweden, France, Germany, UK, etc. Everyone, according to the elite, can become a citizen just by wanting to be one.

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  132. Vinteuil says:
    @Poet Laureate of Unz
    Jack and Jill worked at the mill
    When business did slack off
    Bill the boss had to choose
    To lay Jill or Jack off

    OK, I think the joke has been sufficiently explained.

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  133. AndrewR says:
    @Felix Keverich
    Max Boot is definitely not a "Russian American". I wouldn't call him white either.

    Bolshevik-American

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  134. @jesse helms think-alike
    Jewish emigration from the USSR in the 70's was the result of the Jackson Vanik amendment

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson%E2%80%93Vanik_amendment


    The amendment would deny normal trade relations to certain countries with non-market economies that restricted freedom of emigration. The amendment was intended to allow primarily Jewish refugees and other religious minorities to escape from the Soviet Bloc.

    From 1972 to January 1975, Congress debated and added the Jackson-Vanik Amendment to the 1972 Trade Reform Act, which restricted the President’s ability to provide most favored nation (MFN) status to the Soviet Union and other non-market economies that formed the Soviet bloc.

    Jackson's staffer Richard Perle said in an interview that the idea belonged to Jackson, who believed that the right to emigrate was the most powerful among the human rights
     

    wikipedia article is complicated and confusing but net result of this amendment was to allow 100s of thousands of soviet jews (and those willing to pretend to be jews) to emigrate to US and Israel in the mid to late 70's

    Jackson’s staffer Richard Perle said in an interview that the idea belonged to Jackson, who believed that the right to emigrate was the most powerful among the human rights

    To be fair, Jackson is 100% correct. The right to *emigrate*–i.e. the right to leave–is among the most powerful and fundamental human rights. If you can’t leave then you are in a prison. Which is how I could tell even as a tyke back in the 60s, that the US was on the right side of the Cold War. The other side locked people *in*.

    However, there is no corresponding right to *immigrate*–i.e. the right to get into someone else’s place. Doing so without consent is breaking and entering–an attack on the imposed upon party. Declaring there is such a right is declaring that right to invade. It is law of the jungle. Declaring allegiance to the thug, the rapist, the barbarian–the antithesis of civilization.

    Note that “the left” is on the evil side of both, of these questions–quite the feat. Championing the right of commie thugs to lock their people in and championing the right of foreigners to invade civilized nations. Leftism is the ideology of the thug.

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  135. AndrewR says:
    @RobertTaylor
    When people like Max Boot openly say they are reevaluating their relationship to America, doesn't that make it harder for Conservatism Inc. to cuck for them?

    When Jewish neocons say jump, white cuckservatives ask how high.

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  136. Vinteuil says:
    @John Derbyshire

    the late English comic performer Max Wall
     
    "I was crossing the river on a very narrow footbridge. A beautiful young woman was crossing the other way, coming towards me. I couldn't decide whether to block her passage or toss myself off."

    (IIRC that's the one that got him dropped by the BBC.)

    Was it Max Wall, or Max Miller? There seems to be some controversy over this point.

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  137. Max Boot Is Incapable Of Thinking Like An American Because He Is Not An American; Max Boot Is A Jew First And Only. Stephen Miller Is A Jew Who Is An American.

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  138. @Calsdad
    Did he convince himself - or did he convince a bunch of "Americans" - to go against their best interests.

    The whole non-stop overseas intervention thing has been something that I have always seen as un-American. When Ron Paul tried his run for President (which he admits was more an effort to get his ideals in front of a mass audience than a very serious run for the Presidency - he also admits he figured they probably kill him if he actually won) .... one of the the things he brought up constantly was dumping all the foreign intervention - and taking care of ourselves - FIRST.

    A whole bunch of people - like Max Boot (and other neocons) , constantly derided Paul as an "isolationist". So to the non-thinking masses what got put across was a guy who wanted to make the US into a national version of the Unabomber - living out in the woods with no contact with the outside world.

    Isolation is one of those manipulative words used by leftists , along with homophobia, islamophobia, sexism, racism - etc. I am not "phobic" of you - I don't like you - there's a difference. It's not sexism or racism to be aware of very obvious differences - and it's not isolationism to want to not go around sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. It's called minding your own damn business.

    I would vote for Ron Unz for President.

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  139. @Opinionator
    Why isn't there?

    Because “anything hyphen American” is not American. That is why the melting pot did not work and why all immigration to the US after 1800 has been bad for our nation.

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  140. guest says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    Here's a clip of a recent exchange between Tucker and Boot on Fox. Tucker makes alot of the points you have made about his foreign policy prescriptions - to his face

    https://youtu.be/4HjVipLZYns?t=1m58s

    Regarding foreigners with made up names:

    When I encounter an obvious foreigner with a too-American sounding name it's always been a warning sign for me that every word out of this persons mouth is a lie including and and the.

    “You supported the Iraq War and then when it went bad you opposed it. Which doesn’t take any moral courage.”

    Anyone can be right. Being wrong requires moral courage. Max Boot is as wrong as possible because he’s the bravest man alive, don’t you know?

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  141. @Anonymous
    If he were around in 1933 in Chicago he'd be one would be with those American communists attacking Ukrainians protesting the Holodomor.

    Did this really happen?

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  142. guest says:
    @Opinionator
    You overestimate the public's awareness of jewish privilege.

    Is the public that aware of diplomatic privilege? I guess sitcoms touch upon the parking ticket issue, and the bad guy in Lethal Weapon II kept crowing about “diplomatic immunity!”

    Anyway, I don’t think the foreign diplomats are supposed to be granted U.S. citizenship. (Though it wouldn’t surprise me one bit to learn they are.) Traditionally, they don’t become citizens of any countries their parents visit in an official capacity. That’s not part of being a diplomat. So why would people ask about that, regardless of their knowledge of Jewish Privilege?

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  143. inertial says:

    Max Boot is an old-fashioned, heart-warming tale of immigrant assimilation. He came as a little kid and doesn’t remember anything of the old country. As a student, Boot reputedly wouldn’t acknowledge that he was born elsewhere and wouldn’t speak Russian even with his own family. His hard efforts at assimilation were successful – he assimilated perfectly into his milieu. There are herds of his clones stomping around American universities and think tanks. Boot is just more excitable than most and thus more entertaining. Yeah, at this late date he has started waving his immigrant card, but that’s just because this give extra credibility points in his circles. If it didn’t he wouldn’t.

    Contrast Max Boot with his father Alexander, who, as some have already noticed, would fit right in at Unz.com. He was a freethinker in the old country and remained freethinker in the West. Somehow, you don’t see his face on TV and no presidential candidate would tap him for advice. Funny how that works.

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    "heart-warming take of immigrant assimilation...he assimilated perfectly into his milieu"

    What milieu was that? Middling cosmopolitan neoconservatism? I mean, that is probably better than not assimilating at all. But one of the problems with neo-Americans is that they're fooled into thinking the culture into which they assimilated is as American as apple pie. (If apple pie is really that American. Maybe it was invented by neo-Americans.) But it could've been cooked up the night before by some bitter political faction or Madison Avenue.

    If I don't know what is or isn't actually American, how would the Boots of the world? Unless they study American history or talk to real Americans. And why would they do that? I ask fully knowing Boot is an actual historian. But he's obviously not intellectually curious enough on the subject to look up what past Americans thought to be "American ideals," or what they considered to make for a true American. Not before the 1920s, at least.

    , @Opinionator
    That's a much more comforting take on Max than some of the other appraisals around here.
    , @Tyrion
    That is a generous interpretation. I'd be interested in knowing your thoughts on my comment given elsewhere on this page under my name.
  144. guest says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    So, do American ideals include a lack of basic respect for law?
     
    All laws are inferior to the Zeroth Amendment. And you're ignoring the fact that these "DREAMers" - even more than foreigners living abroad who have the right to move here - have been breaking the law and evading the consequences for a very long time. This builds some kind of "citizenship capital" that entitles them to legal status.

    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”
     
    Boot's Americanism is transactional and conditional - he'll be an American as long as the United States does what he likes. The idea that there are compelling criticisms of the Zeroth Amendment Uniparty position does not occur to him - America is what it does for him and people like him. It's not a place and a people with a culture and history to be preserved and carefully stewarded for the next generation. What might benefit actual Americans is not something for which Boot feels he should have to give an account at all.

    “Boot’s Americanism is transactional and conditional — he’ll be an American as long as the United States does what he likes”

    Yes, and it’s Donald Trump who broke the contract, because “blood and soil.” (Which is what Nazis say. Nazis! [Did I mention I'm Jewish?]) If these were the Bad Old Days, Trump’d be at fault in the Boot v. U.S. divorce case. (The Donald has had more than his share of those, admittedly.)

    Back when he was married to the U.S , Boot was as American as George Washington. He’s free to flee into his ethnicity, because the scary white man spooked him. But that doesn’t change the past. Or the future, because he could become as American as George Washington again if he felt like it.

    When they’re with us, they’re us. More us than us, really, because we were born here and therefore don’t appreciate it. But when they’re not feeling it anymore (ja feel?), they’re not us at all. “Us? Eww! Us is Trump now; how could I be that? Get back to me in 2020, and maybe I’ll join you again. In the meantime I’m outta here.”

    Because national identity is like that. Almost like the way certain nomadic tribes used to view the territory upon which they squatted.

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    Whoa guest - that is downright vicious you know, because you ripped the facade off a dishonest "citizen".

    Be if we have lost Max Boot, what hope do we have? I mean, without the proposition, how can we be a nation?

    Now recite after me: "One nation, under open borders, with preferences for non-citizens, and malice toward citizens, so help me S_t_n."

    Oh, and be glad you have not been shipped to the Gulag already.
  145. guest says:
    @3g4me
    @10 SnakeEyes: "Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”."

    That is precisely what "citizenism" claims - as opposed to some degree or other of blood and soil nationalism, i.e. ethnic nationalism, i.e. identitarianism, i.e alt-right, which I support.

    “That is precisely what ‘citizenism’ claims”

    Do any two people agree up on what is required to be a citizen under citizenism? There’s going to be some process, and all of the people who are citizens as a result are going to be True Americans, and the only kind of American that matter, politically. (Not counting the natural born clause.)

    Is agreeing with “America’s ideals” (whatever those are) necessarily part of the process?

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  146. guest says:
    @inertial
    Max Boot is an old-fashioned, heart-warming tale of immigrant assimilation. He came as a little kid and doesn't remember anything of the old country. As a student, Boot reputedly wouldn't acknowledge that he was born elsewhere and wouldn't speak Russian even with his own family. His hard efforts at assimilation were successful - he assimilated perfectly into his milieu. There are herds of his clones stomping around American universities and think tanks. Boot is just more excitable than most and thus more entertaining. Yeah, at this late date he has started waving his immigrant card, but that's just because this give extra credibility points in his circles. If it didn't he wouldn't.

    Contrast Max Boot with his father Alexander, who, as some have already noticed, would fit right in at Unz.com. He was a freethinker in the old country and remained freethinker in the West. Somehow, you don't see his face on TV and no presidential candidate would tap him for advice. Funny how that works.

    “heart-warming take of immigrant assimilation…he assimilated perfectly into his milieu”

    What milieu was that? Middling cosmopolitan neoconservatism? I mean, that is probably better than not assimilating at all. But one of the problems with neo-Americans is that they’re fooled into thinking the culture into which they assimilated is as American as apple pie. (If apple pie is really that American. Maybe it was invented by neo-Americans.) But it could’ve been cooked up the night before by some bitter political faction or Madison Avenue.

    If I don’t know what is or isn’t actually American, how would the Boots of the world? Unless they study American history or talk to real Americans. And why would they do that? I ask fully knowing Boot is an actual historian. But he’s obviously not intellectually curious enough on the subject to look up what past Americans thought to be “American ideals,” or what they considered to make for a true American. Not before the 1920s, at least.

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  147. @inertial
    Max Boot is an old-fashioned, heart-warming tale of immigrant assimilation. He came as a little kid and doesn't remember anything of the old country. As a student, Boot reputedly wouldn't acknowledge that he was born elsewhere and wouldn't speak Russian even with his own family. His hard efforts at assimilation were successful - he assimilated perfectly into his milieu. There are herds of his clones stomping around American universities and think tanks. Boot is just more excitable than most and thus more entertaining. Yeah, at this late date he has started waving his immigrant card, but that's just because this give extra credibility points in his circles. If it didn't he wouldn't.

    Contrast Max Boot with his father Alexander, who, as some have already noticed, would fit right in at Unz.com. He was a freethinker in the old country and remained freethinker in the West. Somehow, you don't see his face on TV and no presidential candidate would tap him for advice. Funny how that works.

    That’s a much more comforting take on Max than some of the other appraisals around here.

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    I would say it's less comforting if you are American. This is similar to the case of a hard-working African immigrant whose children assimilate into the ghetto culture.
  148. inertial says:

    For example, on March 2, 2016 Max Boot told the New York Times: “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump.”

    Lots of kneejerking about this in the comments. No, Boot is not some kind of Communist and he doesn’t like like Stalin a bit. He compared Putin to Stalin, which should give you a clue about how much he hates both. Now he hates Trump too, which is nice. Does he hate him more than Stalin but less than Putin? Inquiring minds want to know.

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    "No, Boot is not some kind of Communist"

    No, but he's a neocon, which ideology was created by many ex(?)-commies. And he was born in a communist country. And he believes in the New World Order.

    Yes, his one-world is to be run by America, but not if America abandons "American ideals" (i.e. whatever Boot's opinion happens to be).

  149. inertial says:
    @Opinionator
    That's a much more comforting take on Max than some of the other appraisals around here.

    I would say it’s less comforting if you are American. This is similar to the case of a hard-working African immigrant whose children assimilate into the ghetto culture.

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  150. qvole says:

    Wouldn’t all right-thinking Americans be better off today if we had passed a law requiring the mandatory deportation of all underage proto-neocon warmongers back when Mr. Boot was still in his formative years? (By the way, I believe that ‘Caligula’ means ‘little boot’.)

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    (By the way, I believe that ‘Caligula’ means ‘little boot’.)
     
    Max Boot and Mini Boot.
  151. Tyrion says:
    @inertial
    Max Boot is an old-fashioned, heart-warming tale of immigrant assimilation. He came as a little kid and doesn't remember anything of the old country. As a student, Boot reputedly wouldn't acknowledge that he was born elsewhere and wouldn't speak Russian even with his own family. His hard efforts at assimilation were successful - he assimilated perfectly into his milieu. There are herds of his clones stomping around American universities and think tanks. Boot is just more excitable than most and thus more entertaining. Yeah, at this late date he has started waving his immigrant card, but that's just because this give extra credibility points in his circles. If it didn't he wouldn't.

    Contrast Max Boot with his father Alexander, who, as some have already noticed, would fit right in at Unz.com. He was a freethinker in the old country and remained freethinker in the West. Somehow, you don't see his face on TV and no presidential candidate would tap him for advice. Funny how that works.

    That is a generous interpretation. I’d be interested in knowing your thoughts on my comment given elsewhere on this page under my name.

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    • Replies: @inertial
    It makes sense. I too get an impression that Boot is nostalgic for the good old days when Reagan was in the White House and when he, Max Boot, could be the upright moral crusader castigating the Evil Empire. He also appears to think that point-n-sputter is an actual form of argument. You can see that in his dialog with Tucker. (Tucker: "So, who is going to rule Syria?" Boot: "How can you allow Assad, and the Russians, and their horrible war crimes, blah, blah, blah..." Tucker: "Okay, but who is going to rule Syria?")

    As for the accent, Boot arrived as a 7 year old kids. He must have lost his accent within few weeks of school. But even to this day he likes to mention how he speaks English without accent. Which means that those first weeks must have made an impression that lasted a lifetime.
  152. Broski says:
    @Anonymous
    It’s amazing how quickly he decided to drop his Americanness and pick up the mantle of his ethnic identity. I mean one election doesn’t go his way and boom, he’s outta here.

    "Rootless cosmopolitan"?

    Indeed. It’s almost like he’s . . . international. Like he has . . . dual loyalties.

    *Abe Foxman pops out of your screen* “Canards!”

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  153. guest says:
    @inertial

    For example, on March 2, 2016 Max Boot told the New York Times: “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump.”
     
    Lots of kneejerking about this in the comments. No, Boot is not some kind of Communist and he doesn't like like Stalin a bit. He compared Putin to Stalin, which should give you a clue about how much he hates both. Now he hates Trump too, which is nice. Does he hate him more than Stalin but less than Putin? Inquiring minds want to know.

    “No, Boot is not some kind of Communist”

    No, but he’s a neocon, which ideology was created by many ex(?)-commies. And he was born in a communist country. And he believes in the New World Order.

    Yes, his one-world is to be run by America, but not if America abandons “American ideals” (i.e. whatever Boot’s opinion happens to be).

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  154. Anon says: • Website • Disclaimer

    ‘Dreamers’ ought to be called Schemers. People all around the world with young kids now scheme to come illegally & use kids as moral stake & shield.

    So, imagine countless people with young children around the world.
    The Daca-dent elites are sending a message to these 100s of millions of adults to illegally come with their kids and gain defacto ‘birthright citizenship’ by invoking the dream-scheme. A kind of Childright Citizenship. If you raise your kids in America, the kids oughta be made citizens.

    Sheer DACA-DENCE.

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  155. Edster says:
    @Anonymous
    Of course, 'scarpetta' as in the fictitious literary heroine 'Kay Scarpetta' is Italian for 'shoe'.

    Curiously, the 'verb' to 'scarper' is Cockney rhyming slang/colloquial English for 'to escape'.
    The derivation is thus: 'Scapa Flow' = 'to go'.
    'Scapa Flow', was, of course, the Royal Navy base guarding the North Sea approaches to the British Isles, founded, specifically, to counter the Kaiserliche Marine threat to the British Isles anticipated from that direction. The location is in the Shetland Islands, the northernmost extremity of the United Kingdom.
    Thus the dating of this rather antiquated and fading, (in the age of Jafaican), usage to the late 19th/early 20th centuries.

    Actually the Orkneys, but apart from that, spot on.

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  156. Shudder says:

    This discussion is evidence that if Sailer were fiven a bigger platform to air his views he will seek to villify Jews and inspire anger. That is why Sailer should be kept at the margins.

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    What's wrong with vilifying Jews and inspiring anger? How's it fundamentally different from what the MSM does, which is vilifying the White Man and inspiring leftist anger?

    Oh yeah, I forgot. Gas chambers lie at the bottom of a slipper slope.
  157. RudyM says:

    They aren’t just any kids, they are the cornerstone of America:

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  158. @3g4me
    @10 SnakeEyes: "Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”."

    That is precisely what "citizenism" claims - as opposed to some degree or other of blood and soil nationalism, i.e. ethnic nationalism, i.e. identitarianism, i.e alt-right, which I support.

    @10 SnakeEyes: “Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.”

    That is precisely what “citizenism” claims

    Let’s unpack this confusion:

    A) What “citizenism” claims is that the nation belongs to and is supposed to be run for the benefit of its citizens. I.e. not foreigners. Not foreigners who subscribe to “American ideals”. Not want to become citizens. Not even foreigners who will in the future become citizens. But rather … its actual citizens.

    Citizenism does not preclude some sort of immigration policy. But the default policy–as is easy to mathematically/logically demonstrate–is zero. There’s no good reason to let in anyone. The only reason you would is if they have such skills/genes that the benefit to all the *existing* citizens–including benefits they derive form the future well being of their progeny–outweigh costs. This is rare. But the key point is just this question–like all questions of public policy–is weighed from the perspective of current citizens, not foreigners.

    B) “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”
    The confusion here is the “can”/”may” thing–able to vs. allowed to. Saying that anyone who embraces American ideals can become an American could just mean capability. If they were allowed to immigrate to America, and truly embraced American ideals, they could become an American. Arguable. I’d say that there’s more–embracing American culture, traditions, history and people. (That you are explicitly giving up your race and culture to join the American one.) But I don’t think one requires a direct genetic lineage to the founders (and yes, I have one) to be an American. In any case this statement is definitely not a tenet of citizenism, rather it’s an arguable point.

    But what Boot is doing is trying to steal a base. He’s implying that if you can wiggle your way in and embrace some unspecified “American ideals” then poof, you’re as American as anyone. Furthermore, his amorphous use of “can” is sort of implying that anyone embracing his “American ideals” is fit to be, ought to be–and at least sort of hinting at–entitled to be an American. This–any sort of “ought” or “entitled”–is obviously quite counter to “citizenism” and in fact to any concept of a nation whatsoever.

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    Good post.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    It seems remarkably simple that anyone who doesn't come in legally is not embracing American ideals, unless defying the rule of law is an American ideal.
    , @3g4me
    @166 AnotherDad: " What “citizenism” claims is that the nation belongs to and is supposed to be run for the benefit of its citizens. I.e. not foreigners."

    Fair enough on its face. However, I have heard and read numerous differing uses of "citizenism, " and while it may not explicitly require immigration, it always posits the ability of potentially anyone to become such a "citizen" and "American," pending sufficient "assimilation," which to most means wearing jeans, eating pizza, and speaking some degree of English. Thus to my mind citizenism is directly oppositional to any form of "blood and soil" nationalism (and there are indeed various kinds and degrees, of course, despite the usual bleating of a particular iSteve cohort about evil notsees).

    The mere use of "ideals" equates to magic propositions equals the zeroth amendment and melting pot and the proposition nation - all things antithetical to the 1790 immigration act endorsed by Washington and other "founders" purportedly revered by their self-styled followers like Boot and Kristol and their ilk.

    Thus I stand by my assertion: Whatever Steve may have in mind and/or despite the surface definition, "citizenism" implies a proposition nation + immigration and assimilation to unspecified "ideals" - same old, same old.
  159. dr kill says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”

    Reagan said basically the same thing in 1988. That's been core GOP policy for a long time, until Trump came along.

    As always with politics, it depends on who is defining the ideals of America. I’m sure Boot’s are much different than mine.

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  160. @Maj. Kong
    It would be glorious to see those like Max Boot leave this country and move to Israel. Both sides would be happier afterwards.

    It would be glorious to see those like Max Boot leave this country and move to Israel. Both sides would be happier afterwards.

    Maybe Israel doesn’t want him. Hard to see where half-wittedness is an attractive characteristic.

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  161. @guest
    "Boot's Americanism is transactional and conditional -- he'll be an American as long as the United States does what he likes"

    Yes, and it's Donald Trump who broke the contract, because "blood and soil." (Which is what Nazis say. Nazis! [Did I mention I'm Jewish?]) If these were the Bad Old Days, Trump'd be at fault in the Boot v. U.S. divorce case. (The Donald has had more than his share of those, admittedly.)

    Back when he was married to the U.S , Boot was as American as George Washington. He's free to flee into his ethnicity, because the scary white man spooked him. But that doesn't change the past. Or the future, because he could become as American as George Washington again if he felt like it.

    When they're with us, they're us. More us than us, really, because we were born here and therefore don't appreciate it. But when they're not feeling it anymore (ja feel?), they're not us at all. "Us? Eww! Us is Trump now; how could I be that? Get back to me in 2020, and maybe I'll join you again. In the meantime I'm outta here."

    Because national identity is like that. Almost like the way certain nomadic tribes used to view the territory upon which they squatted.

    Whoa guest – that is downright vicious you know, because you ripped the facade off a dishonest “citizen”.

    Be if we have lost Max Boot, what hope do we have? I mean, without the proposition, how can we be a nation?

    Now recite after me: “One nation, under open borders, with preferences for non-citizens, and malice toward citizens, so help me S_t_n.”

    Oh, and be glad you have not been shipped to the Gulag already.

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  162. bomag says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    There's a big difference between saying that the US doesn't have an ethnicity or religion test for membership and saying that membership is open to anyone who idealizes the US.

    And make no mistake: idealizing is what we're talking about. When Boot says anyone who embraces America's ideals can become a citizen, the ideals he is talking about basically amount to agreeing that anyone who embraces the ideals can be admitted. It's kind of a recursive nationality. As with any infinity mirror, the repetitive form has only one source. OBEY GIANT.

    When Boot says anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become a citizen, the ideals he is talking about basically amount to agreeing that anyone who embraces the ideals can be admitted

    And we don’t even get that. Our latest wonderful wave of immigrants aren’t all that keen on American ideals; they are more interested in setting up their own homeland and proselytizing for those values. They stay no matter what values they embrace.

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  163. @AnotherDad

    @10 SnakeEyes: “Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.”

    That is precisely what “citizenism” claims
     
    Let's unpack this confusion:

    A) What "citizenism" claims is that the nation belongs to and is supposed to be run for the benefit of its citizens. I.e. not foreigners. Not foreigners who subscribe to "American ideals". Not want to become citizens. Not even foreigners who will in the future become citizens. But rather ... its actual citizens.

    Citizenism does not preclude some sort of immigration policy. But the default policy--as is easy to mathematically/logically demonstrate--is zero. There's no good reason to let in anyone. The only reason you would is if they have such skills/genes that the benefit to all the *existing* citizens--including benefits they derive form the future well being of their progeny--outweigh costs. This is rare. But the key point is just this question--like all questions of public policy--is weighed from the perspective of current citizens, not foreigners.

    B) “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”
    The confusion here is the "can"/"may" thing--able to vs. allowed to. Saying that anyone who embraces American ideals can become an American could just mean capability. If they were allowed to immigrate to America, and truly embraced American ideals, they could become an American. Arguable. I'd say that there's more--embracing American culture, traditions, history and people. (That you are explicitly giving up your race and culture to join the American one.) But I don't think one requires a direct genetic lineage to the founders (and yes, I have one) to be an American. In any case this statement is definitely not a tenet of citizenism, rather it's an arguable point.

    But what Boot is doing is trying to steal a base. He's implying that if you can wiggle your way in and embrace some unspecified "American ideals" then poof, you're as American as anyone. Furthermore, his amorphous use of "can" is sort of implying that anyone embracing his "American ideals" is fit to be, ought to be--and at least sort of hinting at--entitled to be an American. This--any sort of "ought" or "entitled"--is obviously quite counter to "citizenism" and in fact to any concept of a nation whatsoever.

    Good post.

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  164. @Alden
    Go back to Russia Max Boot. Boot is the epitome of the people Dr MacDonald wrote about in "Culture of Critique"

    2017, 1917, 1887, Russian Jewish immigrants haven't changed.

    Russian Jews in America are very conservative, and almost all voted for Trump.

    But don’t let that get in the way of your silly conspiracy theories.

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    @172 Dmitri: "Russian Jews in America are very conservative, and almost all voted for Trump.

    But don’t let that get in the way of your silly conspiracy theories."

    Translation: Hello, fellow White Americans! NARJALT! Anti-semites!

    Surely you can do better, Dmitri. Come on, you're not even trying here.
  165. @AnotherDad

    @10 SnakeEyes: “Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.”

    That is precisely what “citizenism” claims
     
    Let's unpack this confusion:

    A) What "citizenism" claims is that the nation belongs to and is supposed to be run for the benefit of its citizens. I.e. not foreigners. Not foreigners who subscribe to "American ideals". Not want to become citizens. Not even foreigners who will in the future become citizens. But rather ... its actual citizens.

    Citizenism does not preclude some sort of immigration policy. But the default policy--as is easy to mathematically/logically demonstrate--is zero. There's no good reason to let in anyone. The only reason you would is if they have such skills/genes that the benefit to all the *existing* citizens--including benefits they derive form the future well being of their progeny--outweigh costs. This is rare. But the key point is just this question--like all questions of public policy--is weighed from the perspective of current citizens, not foreigners.

    B) “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”
    The confusion here is the "can"/"may" thing--able to vs. allowed to. Saying that anyone who embraces American ideals can become an American could just mean capability. If they were allowed to immigrate to America, and truly embraced American ideals, they could become an American. Arguable. I'd say that there's more--embracing American culture, traditions, history and people. (That you are explicitly giving up your race and culture to join the American one.) But I don't think one requires a direct genetic lineage to the founders (and yes, I have one) to be an American. In any case this statement is definitely not a tenet of citizenism, rather it's an arguable point.

    But what Boot is doing is trying to steal a base. He's implying that if you can wiggle your way in and embrace some unspecified "American ideals" then poof, you're as American as anyone. Furthermore, his amorphous use of "can" is sort of implying that anyone embracing his "American ideals" is fit to be, ought to be--and at least sort of hinting at--entitled to be an American. This--any sort of "ought" or "entitled"--is obviously quite counter to "citizenism" and in fact to any concept of a nation whatsoever.

    It seems remarkably simple that anyone who doesn’t come in legally is not embracing American ideals, unless defying the rule of law is an American ideal.

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  166. @Maj. Kong
    It would be glorious to see those like Max Boot leave this country and move to Israel. Both sides would be happier afterwards.

    Not really. Israel has a small population.

    Politically it would be bad news. If a million leftists came from the US, they could swing the elections leftwards, in the same way the 1990s aliyah swung it to the right.

    Economically, it could be positive. People like Max Boot are well educated and middle class, which would benefit the economy.

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  167. Anon says: • Website • Disclaimer

    I can understand why some Jews feel the way they do, but why are Anglos in UK, US, and Canada so adamant about PC and ‘diversity’?

    Could it be they are too ashamed to face up to what they’ve done? They gave away the whole house for peanuts(like Russian dummies in the 90s), and they too ashamed to admit it or be reminded of it.

    Imagine a man sell his land to someone for peanuts. Land that is so rich and filled with minerals and oil. But he sold it so cheap and has come to realize it..and his brother and kids are calling him a real dummy.
    His pride prevents him from admitting his grave mistake, so he pretends he is a man of principle who stick to the contract. Furthermore, he sold it cheap out of the goodness of his heart so that new owners will be able to ‘dream’ and live with ‘hope’.
    Also, at least he got the peanuts, enough to last him for the rest of his life. But his kids and descendants? Forget about it.

    The Anglo firesale of UK, US, and Canada to the World has to be one of the dumbest. At least Indians just sold Manhattan. Anglo dummies sold EVERYTHING to a bunch of leeches like Zakaria and Boot.

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  168. @Beckow
    Stalin had a good peasant instinct and understood that what is closer is better and what is more populous is stronger. He easily defeated the internationalists once the revolutionary fervour subsided. The crazy one-world Marxists had nothing to offer to a regular person.

    Boot and his globalist company are direct descendants of the utopian madness of early communists. They even have similar post-modern social views - see Russia's culture in the 20's - and platitudes about the 'brotherhood of men'.

    Most of human history is about borders, where precisely they are drawn, and who gets to live where. Without borders there can be no society or civilization. Most people understand it, Max Boot doesn't, or pretends not to. I think that 'open border' types simply hate their own societies. It is easier to claim to 'love the mankind' than to admit to not liking one's society. Max Boot hated Russia (his previous society), now he seems to be ready to admit that he also hates America. But he loves mankind, so I guess it is ok....

    His previous society (or that of his parents), was the Soviet Union. Not difficult to hate that.

    As for America – obviously he likes it. Not sure why people are so polarized, that they have to exaggerate like this.

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    "As for America – obviously he likes it"
     
    He may. But the quotes above suggest that he is at least ambivalent. He seems to like the idea of America that he created in his mind, not the real thing. I agree that polarization is not helpful.

    Most exiles (and neo-con ideologues) clearly don't make much of a distinction between Soviet Union and Russia. And I think Boot has not hidden his hatred for both. Yeah, I know, he probably claims that he 'likes Tolstoy' so he cannot dislike Russia. Right.
    , @Mr. Anon

    As for America – obviously he likes it.
     
    No, he probably likes Washington D.C. and New York City. Not the same thing as 'America'.
  169. @Achilles

    Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.
     
    Have we reached Peak Jew Hysteria yet?

    I would venture to guess that as a child Max was not disciplined but rather indulged by his parents. Under my Theory of Jewish Child-Raising, tantrums are not punished but rather rewarded in many Jewish families, and thus they progress from spoiled children to neurotic and manipulative adults who try to get their way by personalizing disagreement and conjuring up psychodramas to inflict on others.


    The old idea that anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American is out. Instead, American-ness is being redefined in blood-and-soil terms.... I find myself increasingly forced to think of my ethnic identity instead of the national identity I adopted as a boy in 1976.
     
    Russian Jews would never have created anything like the American nation. No doubt the "ideals" Boot has in mind when he thinks of American ideals are a cherry-picked set that so happen to help advance his own agenda.

    The ideals that naturally arise from the culture of secularized Russian Jews are probably best represented by the thinking of Lev Bronstein, updated to take into account the undeniable failure of communism, to something like "Globalism in Every Country" through a permanent, ongoing campaign of destruction of the gentile nation-states. These are the ideals of Max Boot, and they are alien to America as founded and for most of our history.

    Most secular Russian Jews are very conservative. Again, it seems people like to make up things on subjects they know nothing about, or have no actual experience of.

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  170. guest says:
    @Shudder
    This discussion is evidence that if Sailer were fiven a bigger platform to air his views he will seek to villify Jews and inspire anger. That is why Sailer should be kept at the margins.

    What’s wrong with vilifying Jews and inspiring anger? How’s it fundamentally different from what the MSM does, which is vilifying the White Man and inspiring leftist anger?

    Oh yeah, I forgot. Gas chambers lie at the bottom of a slipper slope.

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  171. @Anon
    I can understand why some Jews feel the way they do, but why are Anglos in UK, US, and Canada so adamant about PC and 'diversity'?

    Could it be they are too ashamed to face up to what they've done? They gave away the whole house for peanuts(like Russian dummies in the 90s), and they too ashamed to admit it or be reminded of it.

    Imagine a man sell his land to someone for peanuts. Land that is so rich and filled with minerals and oil. But he sold it so cheap and has come to realize it..and his brother and kids are calling him a real dummy.
    His pride prevents him from admitting his grave mistake, so he pretends he is a man of principle who stick to the contract. Furthermore, he sold it cheap out of the goodness of his heart so that new owners will be able to 'dream' and live with 'hope'.
    Also, at least he got the peanuts, enough to last him for the rest of his life. But his kids and descendants? Forget about it.

    The Anglo firesale of UK, US, and Canada to the World has to be one of the dumbest. At least Indians just sold Manhattan. Anglo dummies sold EVERYTHING to a bunch of leeches like Zakaria and Boot.

    Stockholm Syndrome?

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  172. @Anonymous
    Stalin didn't trust anyone, except possibly his fellow Georgian Beria.

    I recall reading Adam Ulam’s biography of Stalin. Ulam wrote that Stalin relied on his judgment of men. Of Stalin, Ulam wrote, “The word ‘Trust’ was incompatible with the man.”

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  173. Beckow says:
    @Dmitry134564
    His previous society (or that of his parents), was the Soviet Union. Not difficult to hate that.

    As for America - obviously he likes it. Not sure why people are so polarized, that they have to exaggerate like this.

    “As for America – obviously he likes it”

    He may. But the quotes above suggest that he is at least ambivalent. He seems to like the idea of America that he created in his mind, not the real thing. I agree that polarization is not helpful.

    Most exiles (and neo-con ideologues) clearly don’t make much of a distinction between Soviet Union and Russia. And I think Boot has not hidden his hatred for both. Yeah, I know, he probably claims that he ‘likes Tolstoy’ so he cannot dislike Russia. Right.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    The reality is much simpler: Max Boot likes what he controls.
    , @Dmitry134564
    The Soviet Union sucked for most of its citizens, and its successor states are a modest improvement.

    America, at least for middle class people like Max Boot - is an extremely nice place by comparison.

    It's a very simple equation for immigrants of his generation - much as it is for Mexicans that suddenly find themselves in the US. They fastforwarded about a half a century of economic and social development just by swapping countries.
  174. Mr. Anon says:
    @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Does he mention whether his parents came legally? Did they go through a legally defined process? Does he think there should be ANY limits on immigration?

    Tucker Carlson had some ditzy chiquita on his show tonight (defending DACA) who said she’d be thrilled with an America that had a population of a billion people.

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  175. Mr. Anon says:
    @Calsdad
    Did he convince himself - or did he convince a bunch of "Americans" - to go against their best interests.

    The whole non-stop overseas intervention thing has been something that I have always seen as un-American. When Ron Paul tried his run for President (which he admits was more an effort to get his ideals in front of a mass audience than a very serious run for the Presidency - he also admits he figured they probably kill him if he actually won) .... one of the the things he brought up constantly was dumping all the foreign intervention - and taking care of ourselves - FIRST.

    A whole bunch of people - like Max Boot (and other neocons) , constantly derided Paul as an "isolationist". So to the non-thinking masses what got put across was a guy who wanted to make the US into a national version of the Unabomber - living out in the woods with no contact with the outside world.

    Isolation is one of those manipulative words used by leftists , along with homophobia, islamophobia, sexism, racism - etc. I am not "phobic" of you - I don't like you - there's a difference. It's not sexism or racism to be aware of very obvious differences - and it's not isolationism to want to not go around sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. It's called minding your own damn business.

    Well said.

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  176. Mr. Anon says:

    Tucker Carlson, on his show, took on Max Boot. Boot came off as a really unpleasant, humorless creep.

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  177. Mr. Anon says:
    @qvole
    Wouldn't all right-thinking Americans be better off today if we had passed a law requiring the mandatory deportation of all underage proto-neocon warmongers back when Mr. Boot was still in his formative years? (By the way, I believe that 'Caligula' means 'little boot'.)

    (By the way, I believe that ‘Caligula’ means ‘little boot’.)

    Max Boot and Mini Boot.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    "Max Boot" is the answer to the question of how much to stamp in someone's face?

    "How much boot should we give him?"

    "Max boot, 15 minutes. No, scratch that... FOREVER!"
  178. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dmitry134564
    His previous society (or that of his parents), was the Soviet Union. Not difficult to hate that.

    As for America - obviously he likes it. Not sure why people are so polarized, that they have to exaggerate like this.

    As for America – obviously he likes it.

    No, he probably likes Washington D.C. and New York City. Not the same thing as ‘America’.

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  179. @Beckow

    "As for America – obviously he likes it"
     
    He may. But the quotes above suggest that he is at least ambivalent. He seems to like the idea of America that he created in his mind, not the real thing. I agree that polarization is not helpful.

    Most exiles (and neo-con ideologues) clearly don't make much of a distinction between Soviet Union and Russia. And I think Boot has not hidden his hatred for both. Yeah, I know, he probably claims that he 'likes Tolstoy' so he cannot dislike Russia. Right.

    The reality is much simpler: Max Boot likes what he controls.

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  180. @Broski
    "[B]lock her passage or toss myself off"

    These must be English sex euphemisms that are lost on Americans. I think I can figure it out, though.

    I wonder if there is an etymological cinnection between “to toss off” and “to toss one’s salad”…

    My favorite Britishism is “knackered.” I had to look up what a knacker is; a great addition to my vocabulary.

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  181. @Mr. Anon

    (By the way, I believe that ‘Caligula’ means ‘little boot’.)
     
    Max Boot and Mini Boot.

    “Max Boot” is the answer to the question of how much to stamp in someone’s face?

    “How much boot should we give him?”

    “Max boot, 15 minutes. No, scratch that… FOREVER!”

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  182. 3g4me says:
    @Randal
    That interview of Max Boot never gets old.

    That Tucker Carlson guy is brutal, and there have surely been few targets of such (verbal) brutality more deserving than Boot:

    ""No, it's heartfelt, it's not sarcasm. I have contempt for your non-argument.

    ....

    More than anything, I'm arguing for the right to ask an honest question without being denounced as a Quisling, but you are incapable of giving a factual answer and so instead you attack the character of the person asking the question...and it's beneath contempt."
    "

    The truth must hurt, at least when it's broadcast on mainstream TV. The question for Americans is how did such a low character as Boot and his ideological allies become so influential in their government's policymaking over the past couple of decades.

    Close analysis of that phenomenon will surely pay dividends for any American wanting to understand the world around him.

    @67 Randal: “Close analysis of that phenomenon will surely pay dividends for any American wanting to understand the world around him.”

    I see what you did there. Nice. But ultimately futile. Remember, those who are not rootless but merely easily re-root wherever they are planted (to quote an unironic paean to his people by one of Steve’s commenters) are better than you, more moral than you, smarter than you, more specially chosen than you, and darn it, people really like them! They even like them enough to elect them to congress after enough misplaced ballots are counted. That’s the beauty of our democracy, you know – cream rises to the top.

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  183. 3g4me says:
    @AnotherDad

    @10 SnakeEyes: “Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.”

    That is precisely what “citizenism” claims
     
    Let's unpack this confusion:

    A) What "citizenism" claims is that the nation belongs to and is supposed to be run for the benefit of its citizens. I.e. not foreigners. Not foreigners who subscribe to "American ideals". Not want to become citizens. Not even foreigners who will in the future become citizens. But rather ... its actual citizens.

    Citizenism does not preclude some sort of immigration policy. But the default policy--as is easy to mathematically/logically demonstrate--is zero. There's no good reason to let in anyone. The only reason you would is if they have such skills/genes that the benefit to all the *existing* citizens--including benefits they derive form the future well being of their progeny--outweigh costs. This is rare. But the key point is just this question--like all questions of public policy--is weighed from the perspective of current citizens, not foreigners.

    B) “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”
    The confusion here is the "can"/"may" thing--able to vs. allowed to. Saying that anyone who embraces American ideals can become an American could just mean capability. If they were allowed to immigrate to America, and truly embraced American ideals, they could become an American. Arguable. I'd say that there's more--embracing American culture, traditions, history and people. (That you are explicitly giving up your race and culture to join the American one.) But I don't think one requires a direct genetic lineage to the founders (and yes, I have one) to be an American. In any case this statement is definitely not a tenet of citizenism, rather it's an arguable point.

    But what Boot is doing is trying to steal a base. He's implying that if you can wiggle your way in and embrace some unspecified "American ideals" then poof, you're as American as anyone. Furthermore, his amorphous use of "can" is sort of implying that anyone embracing his "American ideals" is fit to be, ought to be--and at least sort of hinting at--entitled to be an American. This--any sort of "ought" or "entitled"--is obviously quite counter to "citizenism" and in fact to any concept of a nation whatsoever.

    @166 AnotherDad: ” What “citizenism” claims is that the nation belongs to and is supposed to be run for the benefit of its citizens. I.e. not foreigners.”

    Fair enough on its face. However, I have heard and read numerous differing uses of “citizenism, ” and while it may not explicitly require immigration, it always posits the ability of potentially anyone to become such a “citizen” and “American,” pending sufficient “assimilation,” which to most means wearing jeans, eating pizza, and speaking some degree of English. Thus to my mind citizenism is directly oppositional to any form of “blood and soil” nationalism (and there are indeed various kinds and degrees, of course, despite the usual bleating of a particular iSteve cohort about evil notsees).

    The mere use of “ideals” equates to magic propositions equals the zeroth amendment and melting pot and the proposition nation – all things antithetical to the 1790 immigration act endorsed by Washington and other “founders” purportedly revered by their self-styled followers like Boot and Kristol and their ilk.

    Thus I stand by my assertion: Whatever Steve may have in mind and/or despite the surface definition, “citizenism” implies a proposition nation + immigration and assimilation to unspecified “ideals” – same old, same old.

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  184. 3g4me says:
    @Dmitry134564
    Russian Jews in America are very conservative, and almost all voted for Trump.

    But don't let that get in the way of your silly conspiracy theories.

    @172 Dmitri: “Russian Jews in America are very conservative, and almost all voted for Trump.

    But don’t let that get in the way of your silly conspiracy theories.”

    Translation: Hello, fellow White Americans! NARJALT! Anti-semites!

    Surely you can do better, Dmitri. Come on, you’re not even trying here.

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  185. @3g4me
    @172 Dmitri: "Russian Jews in America are very conservative, and almost all voted for Trump.

    But don’t let that get in the way of your silly conspiracy theories."

    Translation: Hello, fellow White Americans! NARJALT! Anti-semites!

    Surely you can do better, Dmitri. Come on, you're not even trying here.

    I can’t make any sense of your comment.

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  186. @Beckow

    "As for America – obviously he likes it"
     
    He may. But the quotes above suggest that he is at least ambivalent. He seems to like the idea of America that he created in his mind, not the real thing. I agree that polarization is not helpful.

    Most exiles (and neo-con ideologues) clearly don't make much of a distinction between Soviet Union and Russia. And I think Boot has not hidden his hatred for both. Yeah, I know, he probably claims that he 'likes Tolstoy' so he cannot dislike Russia. Right.

    The Soviet Union sucked for most of its citizens, and its successor states are a modest improvement.

    America, at least for middle class people like Max Boot – is an extremely nice place by comparison.

    It’s a very simple equation for immigrants of his generation – much as it is for Mexicans that suddenly find themselves in the US. They fastforwarded about a half a century of economic and social development just by swapping countries.

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    For querulants life sucks everywhere. Max Boot wants what doesn't exist and cannot exist. So he is permanently unhappy.
  187. inertial says:
    @Tyrion
    That is a generous interpretation. I'd be interested in knowing your thoughts on my comment given elsewhere on this page under my name.

    It makes sense. I too get an impression that Boot is nostalgic for the good old days when Reagan was in the White House and when he, Max Boot, could be the upright moral crusader castigating the Evil Empire. He also appears to think that point-n-sputter is an actual form of argument. You can see that in his dialog with Tucker. (Tucker: “So, who is going to rule Syria?” Boot: “How can you allow Assad, and the Russians, and their horrible war crimes, blah, blah, blah…” Tucker: “Okay, but who is going to rule Syria?”)

    As for the accent, Boot arrived as a 7 year old kids. He must have lost his accent within few weeks of school. But even to this day he likes to mention how he speaks English without accent. Which means that those first weeks must have made an impression that lasted a lifetime.

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  188. @Sharrukin
    Max Boot is about as American as he was Russian.

    He was always at best a 'paper' American.

    Ethnic loyalties often supersede loyalty to multicultural entities. There aren't many Frenchmen who are truly loyal to the EU.

    Multiculturalism may work better in a monarchy because loyalty is personal – to the person of the monarch, rather than the country.

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  189. Beckow says:
    @Dmitry134564
    The Soviet Union sucked for most of its citizens, and its successor states are a modest improvement.

    America, at least for middle class people like Max Boot - is an extremely nice place by comparison.

    It's a very simple equation for immigrants of his generation - much as it is for Mexicans that suddenly find themselves in the US. They fastforwarded about a half a century of economic and social development just by swapping countries.

    For querulants life sucks everywhere. Max Boot wants what doesn’t exist and cannot exist. So he is permanently unhappy.

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  190. Svigor says:

    I saw Tucker Carlson interview Boot a month or so ago. Boot came off totally unhinged and comical. Tucker was actually laughing at him. BTW most of the Russiaphobes come off the same way. Schiff is a great example.

    You should have seen Boot’s twatter timeline after Carlson raped him. Synagogue of Satan.

    The point is with these neo-con nutters, once you get them out of the MSM butt kissing bubble and really talk to them, they do come off as total nut jobs worthy of only ridicule. They really are quite stupid men, most can’t argue their position for anything. All they do is repeat talking points and outshout their host.

    Most Jews are like this. They’ve gone so long without any opposition that they can’t argue any more. A run of the mill Nationalist southpaw can outbox them all.

    The termination of DACA has proven useful at exposing the bottom line position of the pro-unrestricted immigration set. Boot explicitly says that “anyone who embraces America’s ideals can become an American”.

    The Jewish immigration narrative is entirely utilitarian; ask what America can do for Jews.

    I imagine Max got into the U.S. due to his religion, like Julia Ioffe.

    Atheism got Boot and Ioffe into the USA?

    “No, Boot is not some kind of Communist”

    Neocons: all of the open-borders and gentile-nation-wrecking globalism, none of those awful socialist calories.

    This discussion is evidence that if Sailer were fiven a bigger platform to air his views he will seek to villify Jews and inspire anger. That is why Sailer should be kept at the margins.

    Jews should be vilified, and people should be angry with them, until they mend their ways.

    Russian Jews in America are very conservative, and almost all voted for Trump.

    But don’t let that get in the way of your silly conspiracy theories.

    All except the ones who are in public life, most of them put there by other Jews. Funny how that works.

    PS, the only people who ever introduce the word “conspiracy” into this conversation are Jews and their stepnfetchits.

    “As for America – obviously he likes it”

    Jews like America and Whites insofar and as long as they conform to Jewish expectations. Sort of like how White slave owners felt about their black slaves. Uppity Whites are very, very bad. Nice singing stepping and fetching whites are great.

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  191. Svigor says:

    The left has already largely soured on them because of their treatment of Palestinians so it’s really the Christ cucks who need to be held accountable for treating these people with anything other than the contempt they should be.

    Total horseshit. You can’t even drag anti-Zionist sentiments out of antifa. The entire establishment left is pro-Israel and pro-Zionist. BDS can barely win student elections. There is no antisemitism on the left, and all of the anti-Zionism is the fringiest fringe. The whole leftist establishment pretends Zionism isn’t Jewish White Supremacy.

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