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From the New York Times,

With High-Profile Help, Obama Plots Life After Presidency
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and GARDINER HARRIS AUG. 16, 2015

President Obama, at the White House in June, is privately mapping out a postpresidential infrastructure that could cost as much as $1 billion.

WASHINGTON — The dinner in the private upstairs dining room of the White House went so late that Reid Hoffman, the LinkedIn billionaire, finally suggested around midnight that President Obama might like to go to bed.

“Feel free to kick us out,” Mr. Hoffman recalled telling the president.

But Mr. Obama was just getting started. “I’ll kick you out when it’s time,” he replied. He then lingered with his wife, Michelle, and their 13 guests — among them the novelist Toni Morrison, the hedge fund manager Marc Lasry and the Silicon Valley venture capitalist John Doerr — well past 2 a.m.

Mr. Obama “seemed incredibly relaxed,” said another guest, the writer Malcolm Gladwell. He recalled how the group, which also included the actress Eva Longoria and Vinod Khosla, a founder of Sun Microsystems, tossed out ideas about what Mr. Obama should do after he leaves the White House.

“Where we’ll end up, I don’t know yet,” said Marty Nesbitt, the president’s longtime Chicago friend who is leading an extensive planning effort for Mr. Obama’s library and an anticipated global foundation. …

The long-running dinner this past February is part of a methodical effort taking place inside and outside the White House as the president, first lady and a cadre of top aides map out a postpresidential infrastructure and endowment they estimate could cost as much as $1 billion. The president’s aides did not ask any of the guests for library contributions after the dinner, but a number of those at the table could be donors in the future.

The $1 billion — double what George W. Bush raised for his library and its various programs — would be used for what one adviser called a “digital-first” presidential library loaded with modern technologies, and to establish a foundation with a worldwide reach.

Supporters have urged Mr. Obama to avoid the mistake made by Bill Clinton, whose associates raised just enough money to build his library in Little Rock, Ark., forcing Mr. Clinton to pursue high-dollar donors for years to come.

Including construction costs, Mr. Obama’s associates set a goal of raising at least $800 million — enough money, they say, to avoid never-ending fund-raising. One top adviser said that $800 million was a floor rather than a ceiling. …

The real push for donations, foundation officials said, will come after Mr. Obama leaves the White House.

Shailagh Murray, a senior adviser, oversees an effort inside the White House to keep attention on Mr. Obama’s future and to ensure that his final 17 months in office, barring crises, serve as a glide path to his life as an ex-president. Mr. Obama’s recent visit to a federal prison indicates, advisers say, a likely emphasis on criminal justice reform after he leaves office. His eulogy for one of nine African-Americans killed at a church in Charleston, S.C., is a forerunner, they say, of a focus on race relations. Diplomacy with Iran and Cuba could serve as the foundation for foreign policy work.

“His focus is on finishing this job completely, thoroughly,” said Valerie Jarrett, one of Mr. Obama’s closest confidantes inside the White House. …

The heart of the postpresidential planning is Mr. Obama’s own outreach to eclectic, often extraordinarily rich groups of people. Several aides close to Mr. Obama said his extended conversations over the lengthy dinners — guests say his drink of choice at the gatherings is an extra-dry Grey Goose martini …

The process started as early as the week after Mr. Obama’s re-election in 2012, when the director Steven Spielberg and the actor Daniel Day-Lewis went to a White House screening of the movie “Lincoln.” Mr. Spielberg held the president spellbound, guests said, when he spoke about the use of technology to tell stories. Mr. Obama has continued those conversations, most recently with Mr. Spielberg and the studio executive Jeffrey Katzenberg over dinner at a Beverly Hills hotel in California in June, according to some of Mr. Obama’s close advisers.

The advisers said Mr. Spielberg was focused on helping to develop a “narrative” for Mr. Obama in the years after he leaves office. …

Dinner guests say that postpresidency planning is a big topic of conversation but not the only one. “He loves those sessions,” a top adviser said. “They’re very nourishing to him.” …

The Chicago library will include an office for the president, but aides said the Obamas could live in Washington while Sasha, 14, their younger daughter, finished high school here. Several said Mr. Obama, who graduated from Columbia University in 1983, may also have a New York office on Columbia’s campus.

My prediction: The Obamas will buy a Manhattan penthouse overlooking Central Park on the west end of Central Park North, so they can claim to live in Harlem but basically live on the Upper West Side.

Or at least that’s what I bet Barack wants to do. Michelle, I don’t know. There are a lot of tensions there, such as Jodi Kantor’s 2012 revelation of Michelle’s passive-aggression snit in reaction to Barack’s 2008 victory, which was to tell him to go bach it in the White House and she and the girls would stay in Chicago until the school year is done.

… One top aide said Mr. Obama respected Mr. Bush’s decision to limit his time in public after leaving office, but also admired Mr. Clinton’s aggressive use of the spotlight to press his agenda. …

In their conversations with Mr. Obama and his advisers, people from Silicon Valley and Hollywood are pressing for a heavy reliance on cutting-edge technology in the library that would help spread the story of Mr. Obama’s presidency across the globe. Ideally, one adviser said, a person in Kenya could put on a pair of virtual reality goggles and be transported to Mr. Obama’s 2008 speech on race in Philadelphia.

Okaaay.

In an interview on the website Tumblr last year, Mr. Obama was asked what he expected to be doing in 10 years. The president took more than 30 seconds to respond, in a manner that suggested he had not yet settled on a good answer.

Playing golf.

Clinton, Vernon Jordan, Ron Kirk, Obama at Farm Neck in Oaks Bluff on Martha’s Vineyard this weekend

How’s that for an answer?

Okay, and giving speeches and signing copies of his third and fourth memoirs.

For a longer answer, Barack might point out that he hasn’t got caught cheating with an intern so he hasn’t had to agree to facilitate an aggrieved wife’s long-term plan for world domination like Bill Clinton had to.

Commenter Dave Pinsen sums up this article better than I did:

It’s as if Obama’s supporters have come to the same conclusion you have about Obama being sort of low energy and antisocial, and but they realize it would be somewhat embarrassing for all concerned if the first black president spent his retirement doing just enough buck-raking to keep playing golf with Alonzo Mourning, instead of spending the rest of his life as a moral authority on black issues. How would it look after Jimmy Carter had spent his post-presidency building houses for black people until he was wracked with cancer at 90, while Obama split his time between six figure speeches and golf?

But raising hundreds of millions of dollars in corporate donations, and leading a global conference every year, like Bill Clinton has a blast doing with his Clinton Global Initiative, would be too tiring for Barack. So let’s raise all the money for him in one big lump sum, and then use our Silicon Valley & Hollywood know-how to build an animatronic Obama that can impart important lessons like Honest Abe while Obama’s golfing on Martha’s Vineyard, or one of Trump’s golf courses.

But you make “low energy and antisocial” sound like a bad thing. In contrast, I prefer to think of these traits in myself as proof of my Presidential timberhood.

 
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  1. Digital-first library?

    A Carrington Event isn’t going to be all bad, then. “There’s no great loss without some small gain.”

    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Dear Mr. Obama:
    If you don't want to be blown away in the sands of time like some forgotten Ozymandias, make sure your legacy will not be destroyed by the next man-made EMP or sun-made Carrington Event. Take a hint from the Sumerians of Mesopotamia: convert all your electronic records to a more permanent form, like cuneiform clay tablets, which have lasted 5,000 years and counting.
  2. This is kind of funny, if you unpack it:

    Supporters have urged Mr. Obama to avoid the mistake made by Bill Clinton, whose associates raised just enough money to build his library in Little Rock, Ark., forcing Mr. Clinton to pursue high-dollar donors for years to come.

    It’s as if Obama’s supporters have come to the same conclusion you have about Obama being sort of low energy and antisocial, and but they realize it would be somewhat embarrassing for all concerned if the first black president spent his retirement doing just enough buck-raking to keep playing golf with Alonzo Mourning, instead of spending the rest of his life as a moral authority on black issues. How would it look after Jimmy Carter had spent his post-presidency building houses for black people until he was wracked with cancer at 90, while Obama split his time between six figure speeches and golf?

    But raising hundreds of millions of dollars in corporate donations, and leading a global conference every year, like Bill Clinton has a blast doing with his Clinton Global Initiative, would be too tiring for Barack. So let’s raise all the money for him in one big lump sum, and then use our Silicon Valley & Hollywood know-how to build an animatronic Obama that can impart important lessons like Honest Abe while Obama’s golfing on Martha’s Vineyard, or one of Trump’s golf courses.

    • Agree: Percy Gryce, Dave Pinsen
  3. Glenn Beck makes a list of the top 15 U.S cities that he believes are the worst places to live. He ranks Portland at number 1 and Detroit at number 8.
    http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_28647039/glenn-beck-names-15-cities-that-you-dont?source=infinite

    I guess he sees urban inner city thug culture as the lesser of two evils compared to SWPL hipster culture.

    It is interesting that Glenn Beck does not use high crime rate as a criteria for whether or not an American city is considered a bad place to live. Hence why cities like Baltimore and Birmingham for example, did not make his list.

    Apparently Glenn Beck would feel more comfortable sending his kids to a public school in Baltimore than one in Portland.

    Only a politically correct Cuckservative like Glenn Beck would name the Whitest U.S city with a population of over 500,000 people as the worst big city in America to live in.

    This is the same Cuckservative that starts crying every time he starts talking about Martin Luther King, even though he was a Communist.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Glenn Beck is pretty good when he is not talking about politics.
    , @The Practical Conservative
    Portland is anti-child and anti-married people. You can support those things without wanting to live in Detroit.
  4. If there’s a President Hilary I’m guessing there’s a Supreme Court Justice Obama as a replacement for Ginzberg.

    a likely emphasis on criminal justice reform after he leaves office.

    After he leaves office? LOL.

    His eulogy for one of nine African-Americans killed at a church in Charleston, S.C., is a forerunner, they say, of a focus on race relations.

    Getting up on his High Horse and lecturing America against church massacres? Good one.

    Don’t know if Obama had much to say after Omar Thornton went on his racist rampage in 2010.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    IIRC, the only ex-POTUS to go on to the SCOTUS went as Chief Justice, so O probably wouldn't settle for Associate Justice. Plus, it's probably more work than he's interested in.
    , @ChrisZ
    Rifleman: You scoped out the one interesting bit of information in the article--namely, that the President actually intends to leave office after 2016.

    I reckoned that as good news; but your less credulous response is probably closer to the mark.
  5. Though this story is about a library, I guessed there would be no books in it.

    [guests say his drink of choice at the gatherings is an extra-dry Grey Goose martini]

    Pretentious creep.

    [Ideally, one adviser said, a person in Kenya could put on a pair of virtual reality goggles and be transported to Mr. Obama’s 2008 speech on race in Philadelphia.]

    Why would anyone want to do that?

    • Replies: @Aristippus
    That's the type of drink someone whose idea of class comes from James Bond movies would imbibe. No person with any knowledge about the right way to drink ever has a martini after dinner.
  6. “forcing Mr. Clinton to pursue high-dollar donors for years to come”

    Oh, mercy; that was a LOL, or, in the current parlance, a hahaha.

  7. @Rifleman
    If there's a President Hilary I'm guessing there's a Supreme Court Justice Obama as a replacement for Ginzberg.

    a likely emphasis on criminal justice reform after he leaves office.
     
    After he leaves office? LOL.

    His eulogy for one of nine African-Americans killed at a church in Charleston, S.C., is a forerunner, they say, of a focus on race relations.
     
    Getting up on his High Horse and lecturing America against church massacres? Good one.

    Don't know if Obama had much to say after Omar Thornton went on his racist rampage in 2010.

    IIRC, the only ex-POTUS to go on to the SCOTUS went as Chief Justice, so O probably wouldn’t settle for Associate Justice. Plus, it’s probably more work than he’s interested in.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Supreme Court justices have pretty nice lifestyles. A friend of mine hosted Scalia and Breyer in his distant country for a couple of weeks about a decade ago. It appears that Scalia's entourage's demands got on his nerves, but he said Breyer was an ideal visitor.
    , @keypusher
    It can be as little or as much work as the justice wants, since he gets four bright and incredibly diligent clerks, collectively capable of researching and writing every word he prints or utters.

    Breyer works quite hard, I understand. Thurgood Marshall spent the later years of his tenure watching soap operas.
  8. I could see Obama becoming the permanent head of the DNC, campaigning is what he does best, and he could be the power behind the throne of a post-amnesty ‘permanent majority’ a la Deng Xiaoping

  9. @Dave Pinsen
    IIRC, the only ex-POTUS to go on to the SCOTUS went as Chief Justice, so O probably wouldn't settle for Associate Justice. Plus, it's probably more work than he's interested in.

    Supreme Court justices have pretty nice lifestyles. A friend of mine hosted Scalia and Breyer in his distant country for a couple of weeks about a decade ago. It appears that Scalia’s entourage’s demands got on his nerves, but he said Breyer was an ideal visitor.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's indisputable that the 9 are at least honorary members of our New Royalty infrastructure but if you're telling me they now have "entourages" e.g. black-car motorcades & deep-pocketed assistants to dispense F-you money peeled off a roll of 100s, then our press must truly be asleep at the wheel. They shriek about Thomas's current wife, the would-be activist, whenever she's at some contrived GOP gathering that includes any mega-donors. I can't say exactly how it's codified but surely even a dimly remembered standard of cloth-coat republican propriety would still apply to *active* federal or higher judges, enough to keep them off yachts and not backstage with Beyonce Knowles (meanwhile JFK successfully demolished this glass ceiling for the executive branch). During a spate of SC justices being robbed some years ago -- IIRC Breyer was hit on vacation in the Caribbean -- the funny part had seemed to be the bandits' assumption that the big famous magistrates would keep a lot of loot about.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    They do get the summers off. In the mid-90s, when I was working as a cold caller in tiny brokerage across from the Trump Tower, I tried reaching Scalia for the challenge of it. This was in July or August. I got his assistant, who said he was in the south of France, teaching a class for a New York area university (maybe Pace or Hofstra, I forget which). So, basically, the university bought Scalia a luxury vacation in France, in addition to his teaching fee, to be able to list a Supreme Court Justice as an adjunct faculty member at its law school.
  10. For a longer answer, Barack might point out that he hasn’t got caught cheating with an intern so he hasn’t had to agree to facilitate an aggrieved wife’s long-term plan for world domination like Bill Clinton had to.

    People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we’re basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn’t keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol–the movement became invested in her career.
    I think she took a huge bump up in estimation, sort of opening the second act of her story, when Bill embarrassed her with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Traditional, biological female jealousy met feminist angst and the brand Hillary is forever seared in the collective mind of American women of a certain age.
    By the time Elliot Spitzer was taken out, and his wife forced to endure the confessing press conference by his side, those same women fumed at the sight of a one of their own literally standing by her man. This in turn spawned a television show, The Good Wife, which counters that infuriating reality with a fantasy of that same woman rising from this humiliation to lead a crusading law firm.

    And that’s just how many of these women see Hillary, as rising from the humiliation they fear the worst and sticking it to the cheating, charming bastard, and the whole damn patriarchy (which, for all their bellyaching they just can’t get enough attention from; so I think it’s really more of the former than latter).

    I don’t pretend to understand the appeal of this woman, with her wooden voice and those unnaturally low cheekbones, but I think one necessary precondition of her remarkable durability is Monica Lewinsky.

    • Replies: @Steve Johnson
    "People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we’re basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn’t keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol–the movement became invested in her career."

    Not cynical enough.

    Bill and Hillary have a scam going and have had it going since Arkansas when she collected the extortion / bribes while Bill was governor.

    Post presidency she's been the senator / Secretary of State and he's collected the bribes / extortion money. She runs for president so they can plausibly keep the scam going even longer.

    Sure, Obama will get paid off but only really enough to make sure that politicians see that promises are kept. Since he doesn't have an ongoing scam going, I don't see him collecting money in the same league as the Clintons.
    , @Anonymous
    Har har, "The Good Wife"... Best summed up by Broad City when her roommate's bf is caught Reinholding it to a mature actress freeze-frame: "It was 'ER'-era Juliana Margulies, I swear!"
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Bill Maher made essentially the same point in his show on Friday, saying the best thing that could happen for Hillary's campaign now would be for Bill to get caught having another affair. Maybe the vegan diet he's been on since his heart surgery has lowered his sex drive though.
  11. @Dennis Dale
    For a longer answer, Barack might point out that he hasn’t got caught cheating with an intern so he hasn’t had to agree to facilitate an aggrieved wife’s long-term plan for world domination like Bill Clinton had to.

    People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we're basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn't keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol--the movement became invested in her career.
    I think she took a huge bump up in estimation, sort of opening the second act of her story, when Bill embarrassed her with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Traditional, biological female jealousy met feminist angst and the brand Hillary is forever seared in the collective mind of American women of a certain age.
    By the time Elliot Spitzer was taken out, and his wife forced to endure the confessing press conference by his side, those same women fumed at the sight of a one of their own literally standing by her man. This in turn spawned a television show, The Good Wife, which counters that infuriating reality with a fantasy of that same woman rising from this humiliation to lead a crusading law firm.

    And that's just how many of these women see Hillary, as rising from the humiliation they fear the worst and sticking it to the cheating, charming bastard, and the whole damn patriarchy (which, for all their bellyaching they just can't get enough attention from; so I think it's really more of the former than latter).

    I don't pretend to understand the appeal of this woman, with her wooden voice and those unnaturally low cheekbones, but I think one necessary precondition of her remarkable durability is Monica Lewinsky.

    “People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we’re basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn’t keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol–the movement became invested in her career.”

    Not cynical enough.

    Bill and Hillary have a scam going and have had it going since Arkansas when she collected the extortion / bribes while Bill was governor.

    Post presidency she’s been the senator / Secretary of State and he’s collected the bribes / extortion money. She runs for president so they can plausibly keep the scam going even longer.

    Sure, Obama will get paid off but only really enough to make sure that politicians see that promises are kept. Since he doesn’t have an ongoing scam going, I don’t see him collecting money in the same league as the Clintons.

    • Replies: @Bill
    Orange box well earned.
    , @ricpic
    Is it a scam if the influence peddling the Clintons are paid for gets the payer results? I can't imagine the millions paid to the Clintons in speaking fees would continue to be paid if there wasn't a track record of favors obtained in return from friends of Bill & Hillary.
  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Supreme Court justices have pretty nice lifestyles. A friend of mine hosted Scalia and Breyer in his distant country for a couple of weeks about a decade ago. It appears that Scalia's entourage's demands got on his nerves, but he said Breyer was an ideal visitor.

    It’s indisputable that the 9 are at least honorary members of our New Royalty infrastructure but if you’re telling me they now have “entourages” e.g. black-car motorcades & deep-pocketed assistants to dispense F-you money peeled off a roll of 100s, then our press must truly be asleep at the wheel. They shriek about Thomas’s current wife, the would-be activist, whenever she’s at some contrived GOP gathering that includes any mega-donors. I can’t say exactly how it’s codified but surely even a dimly remembered standard of cloth-coat republican propriety would still apply to *active* federal or higher judges, enough to keep them off yachts and not backstage with Beyonce Knowles (meanwhile JFK successfully demolished this glass ceiling for the executive branch). During a spate of SC justices being robbed some years ago — IIRC Breyer was hit on vacation in the Caribbean — the funny part had seemed to be the bandits’ assumption that the big famous magistrates would keep a lot of loot about.

    • Replies: @anon
    I'd guess that "entourage" meant family. The guy has nine children and no telling how many grandchildren. Throw in some Italian penchant for drama and voila.
  13. I just hope he’s low energy enough to forgo pumping up the black vote in the next election. It’s hard to know how much the Obama’s really like Hillary anyway.

  14. @Dennis Dale
    For a longer answer, Barack might point out that he hasn’t got caught cheating with an intern so he hasn’t had to agree to facilitate an aggrieved wife’s long-term plan for world domination like Bill Clinton had to.

    People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we're basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn't keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol--the movement became invested in her career.
    I think she took a huge bump up in estimation, sort of opening the second act of her story, when Bill embarrassed her with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Traditional, biological female jealousy met feminist angst and the brand Hillary is forever seared in the collective mind of American women of a certain age.
    By the time Elliot Spitzer was taken out, and his wife forced to endure the confessing press conference by his side, those same women fumed at the sight of a one of their own literally standing by her man. This in turn spawned a television show, The Good Wife, which counters that infuriating reality with a fantasy of that same woman rising from this humiliation to lead a crusading law firm.

    And that's just how many of these women see Hillary, as rising from the humiliation they fear the worst and sticking it to the cheating, charming bastard, and the whole damn patriarchy (which, for all their bellyaching they just can't get enough attention from; so I think it's really more of the former than latter).

    I don't pretend to understand the appeal of this woman, with her wooden voice and those unnaturally low cheekbones, but I think one necessary precondition of her remarkable durability is Monica Lewinsky.

    Har har, “The Good Wife”… Best summed up by Broad City when her roommate’s bf is caught Reinholding it to a mature actress freeze-frame: “It was ‘ER’-era Juliana Margulies, I swear!”

  15. one pretends to be a president; the other pretends to be a scientist. good match

  16. @Anonymous
    It's indisputable that the 9 are at least honorary members of our New Royalty infrastructure but if you're telling me they now have "entourages" e.g. black-car motorcades & deep-pocketed assistants to dispense F-you money peeled off a roll of 100s, then our press must truly be asleep at the wheel. They shriek about Thomas's current wife, the would-be activist, whenever she's at some contrived GOP gathering that includes any mega-donors. I can't say exactly how it's codified but surely even a dimly remembered standard of cloth-coat republican propriety would still apply to *active* federal or higher judges, enough to keep them off yachts and not backstage with Beyonce Knowles (meanwhile JFK successfully demolished this glass ceiling for the executive branch). During a spate of SC justices being robbed some years ago -- IIRC Breyer was hit on vacation in the Caribbean -- the funny part had seemed to be the bandits' assumption that the big famous magistrates would keep a lot of loot about.

    I’d guess that “entourage” meant family. The guy has nine children and no telling how many grandchildren. Throw in some Italian penchant for drama and voila.

  17. @Steve Sailer
    Supreme Court justices have pretty nice lifestyles. A friend of mine hosted Scalia and Breyer in his distant country for a couple of weeks about a decade ago. It appears that Scalia's entourage's demands got on his nerves, but he said Breyer was an ideal visitor.

    They do get the summers off. In the mid-90s, when I was working as a cold caller in tiny brokerage across from the Trump Tower, I tried reaching Scalia for the challenge of it. This was in July or August. I got his assistant, who said he was in the south of France, teaching a class for a New York area university (maybe Pace or Hofstra, I forget which). So, basically, the university bought Scalia a luxury vacation in France, in addition to his teaching fee, to be able to list a Supreme Court Justice as an adjunct faculty member at its law school.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Dave Pinsen, this is off topic, what do you think about the brokerage industry? I'd be interested to hear about your experiences as a New York securities broker and your thoughts on the profession.

    Ever see the movie Wall Street?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-jOAmy4DIU
  18. @Dennis Dale
    For a longer answer, Barack might point out that he hasn’t got caught cheating with an intern so he hasn’t had to agree to facilitate an aggrieved wife’s long-term plan for world domination like Bill Clinton had to.

    People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we're basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn't keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol--the movement became invested in her career.
    I think she took a huge bump up in estimation, sort of opening the second act of her story, when Bill embarrassed her with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Traditional, biological female jealousy met feminist angst and the brand Hillary is forever seared in the collective mind of American women of a certain age.
    By the time Elliot Spitzer was taken out, and his wife forced to endure the confessing press conference by his side, those same women fumed at the sight of a one of their own literally standing by her man. This in turn spawned a television show, The Good Wife, which counters that infuriating reality with a fantasy of that same woman rising from this humiliation to lead a crusading law firm.

    And that's just how many of these women see Hillary, as rising from the humiliation they fear the worst and sticking it to the cheating, charming bastard, and the whole damn patriarchy (which, for all their bellyaching they just can't get enough attention from; so I think it's really more of the former than latter).

    I don't pretend to understand the appeal of this woman, with her wooden voice and those unnaturally low cheekbones, but I think one necessary precondition of her remarkable durability is Monica Lewinsky.

    Bill Maher made essentially the same point in his show on Friday, saying the best thing that could happen for Hillary’s campaign now would be for Bill to get caught having another affair. Maybe the vegan diet he’s been on since his heart surgery has lowered his sex drive though.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …the best thing that could happen for Hillary’s campaign now would be for Bill to get caught having another affair
     
    It better be consensual, though.
    , @Dennis Dale
    I was thinking of a Bill Maher gag in relation to Hillary: when Al Gore was running in 2000 his campaign was appealing to women by contrasting him with the unfortunately nicknamed Slick Willie, playing up his relationship to Tipper Gore. He marred his own nomination when he made an embarrassing show of kissing his wife:

    https://youtu.be/p0wDNESHl8M

    Anyway, Maher said Gore was appealing directly to women by declaring firmly "I f--- my wife". He certainly had a point.

  19. All this is assuming he’s… well, James Buchanan didn’t have a beard to deal with when he left the White Closet.

  20. @Dave Pinsen
    Bill Maher made essentially the same point in his show on Friday, saying the best thing that could happen for Hillary's campaign now would be for Bill to get caught having another affair. Maybe the vegan diet he's been on since his heart surgery has lowered his sex drive though.

    …the best thing that could happen for Hillary’s campaign now would be for Bill to get caught having another affair

    It better be consensual, though.

  21. @Dave Pinsen
    IIRC, the only ex-POTUS to go on to the SCOTUS went as Chief Justice, so O probably wouldn't settle for Associate Justice. Plus, it's probably more work than he's interested in.

    It can be as little or as much work as the justice wants, since he gets four bright and incredibly diligent clerks, collectively capable of researching and writing every word he prints or utters.

    Breyer works quite hard, I understand. Thurgood Marshall spent the later years of his tenure watching soap operas.

    • Agree: Thomas O. Meehan
    • Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan
    I agree that BHO wouldn't want anything but Chief Justice. The only fly in that ointment is that as Chief, he might have to work a bit.

    On the other hand, Obama did occupy a similar post before, his gig at the Harvard Law Review. He played arbiter and figurehead without contributing. So Yes, perhaps he would really like the Chief Justice post. As others have said, he could appoint clerks to do all the work while he pontificates.

    Chicago and for that matter Mrs. Obama have played out their assigned roles in the Obama saga. I doubt he gives a damn about where his book-less library is. His emblematic black wife always seems one dyspeptic step away from going off on her own. The kids are close to grown. She can leave him as a "Strong, independent black woman," and still be guaranteed a pedestal in the leftist pantheon.

    From what we've seen of the current Chief Justice, I imagine he could be induced to exit for an enticing sinecure.
  22. @Dave Pinsen
    Bill Maher made essentially the same point in his show on Friday, saying the best thing that could happen for Hillary's campaign now would be for Bill to get caught having another affair. Maybe the vegan diet he's been on since his heart surgery has lowered his sex drive though.

    I was thinking of a Bill Maher gag in relation to Hillary: when Al Gore was running in 2000 his campaign was appealing to women by contrasting him with the unfortunately nicknamed Slick Willie, playing up his relationship to Tipper Gore. He marred his own nomination when he made an embarrassing show of kissing his wife:

    Anyway, Maher said Gore was appealing directly to women by declaring firmly “I f— my wife”. He certainly had a point.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    And gambling in Atlantic City.
  23. @Dennis Dale
    I was thinking of a Bill Maher gag in relation to Hillary: when Al Gore was running in 2000 his campaign was appealing to women by contrasting him with the unfortunately nicknamed Slick Willie, playing up his relationship to Tipper Gore. He marred his own nomination when he made an embarrassing show of kissing his wife:

    https://youtu.be/p0wDNESHl8M

    Anyway, Maher said Gore was appealing directly to women by declaring firmly "I f--- my wife". He certainly had a point.

    And gambling in Atlantic City.

  24. The process started as early as the week after Mr. Obama’s re-election in 2012…

    It is good to plan ahead, but this just reinforces the notion that Barry’s term was just an honorarium; a reward for being a properly behaved minority person. It doesn’t matter what he does, he’ll get a library and accolades just because.

  25. Maybe he can start a dialogue on race. I’ve always wanted one of those.

    • Agree: Romanian
  26. Sycophants and bribes aside, what does it say about our society that taxpayers have to help fund these libraries. If they were maintained through private funds it would be darkly amusing. But in bipartisan fashion, our elites have determined that the proles must subsidize these latter-day shrines. At a time when real libraries are having to reduce hours, why are tax-dollars subverted to these parasitic, propagandistic entities?

    Obviously, the Democratic party would do nothing to stop this. But what about the party of ostensibly small government? I can’t imagine them doing anything that would take cash away from the Reagan shrine.
    WaPo in January said the bill is now approaching 100 million a year. For what? In the past 60 years have we had leaders worth venerating, truly?

    When will it stop? How many more presidents get one? Even the Roman Empire didn’t maintain civic cults of the bad emperors.

    • Replies: @McFly
    Spectacular waste of $800 million
    , @rod1963
    None of the leaders in the last 60 years are worth venerating. They are in fact embarrassments to the country. And yes these losers have spawned political cults that venerate the dead and decaying ex-presidents.

    And why? All of these presidents were PR creations. They never existed outside of the boob tube. Their words are not their own, their thinking is the thinking of others, how they dress and how interact with others is all staged and managed.

    I think it was Fred Reed who pointed this out that the president really doesn't exist, you have a front man and bunch of image consultants and speech writers who create the fiction that we have a president.
  27. Only a little bit of the money will go to Obama and family and friends. Most of the money will go to future Hurricane victims in third world countries and such.

  28. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Although he’s thin-skinned and snappish I don’t see him as being particularly anti-social. It’s just that those who socialize with him must remember that he is the superior one and be deferential at all times, remembering to feed his ego every two minutes. Otherwise he’ll go into one of his sissy-rages. The part about being able to tune in one of his speeches by wearing some reality glasses must be part of this ego-stroking that goes on. The speeches were written by others and he merely read them off the teleprompter, that’s all, just like an actor reads his lines. Our job is to keep clapping until the buzzer goes off, I suppose.

  29. Dave Pinsen misunderstands the nature of being the President of Black America. Post-White House Obama simply needs to give a big speech on ocassion decrying the racial crisis of the day and mobilizing anti-white anger. Then it’s back to the golf course for a few months.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    It's a bizarre political culture that now accepts simply making a happytalk speech solves everything.$18 trillion and counting.
  30. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:

    I think the moral of this Times “expose” is that even the NYTimeslibtardclass is sick of Obama, and would love nothing more than to take a big hook and jerk him offstage. That he wants to be the first virtual ex-President is music to my ears. Virtual reality is not reality. Bill Clinton is smarter than that – if you want to make an impact you’ve got to press real flesh. Although something tells me that getting worked up over a Hillary presidency is a waste of energy.

  31. This notion that every ex-President needs his own theme-park / temple so that his praises may be sung for all time is silly and corrupt. It does not become a republic of free men, which of course, this nation no longer is. Even the emperors of Rome at least felt the need to build some large public works project – a bath complex or a stadium – that they would be remembered. What do we really have as a legacy of G.W. Bush’s Presidency? TSA lines at airports? What will we have of Obama’s? Ferguson?

  32. “— guests say his drink of choice at the gatherings is an extra-dry Grey Goose martini …”

    Be sure to write this in the sacred books so that generations yet unborn may know from what springs the prophet hath drunk.

    “extra-dry Grey Goose martini”? Otherwise known as a shot of vodka. A real martini has gin……and vermouth.

    • Agree: Brutusale
  33. The N.Y. Times article is an amazing document. It simply drips with privilege and insouciance. Is there better evidence that Obama and his people simply give not a fuck about governing? “Glide path,” indeed (“barring crises,” naturally–o, what could go wrong in this sleepy, peaceful world of ours?).

    Of course, we’re probably better off letting Barack play celebrity on our dime than having him actually governing. So plan on, Mr. President, your library patrons and foundation beneficiaries await.

    P.S.: My folks were on Martha’s Vineyard this weekend and had their lunch interrupted by the Secret Service, who felt the necessity of wanding them three times while ex-President Clinton and ex-President-in-Training Obama played golf nearby.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "The N.Y. Times article is an amazing document. It simply drips with privilege and insouciance. Is there better evidence that Obama and his people simply give not a fuck about governing? “Glide path,” indeed (“barring crises,” naturally–o, what could go wrong in this sleepy, peaceful world of ours?)."

    No kidding. I thought the same thing.

  34. From the quoted article:
    “the hedge fund manager Marc Lasry”

    From Saturday’s NY Times re Gov. Scott Walker’s signing of legislation to provide public funding for a new arena for the Milwaukee Bucks of the NBA: “The political waters on this deal ran swift and deep. The new majority owners of the Bucks, Wesley Edens and Marc Lasry, are big donors to the Democratic Party. Lasry has bundled tens of thousands of dollars for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, and his hedge fund once employed her daughter, Chelsea.”

    It’s good to see that big Democratic Party moneybags are capable of helping both sides of the Democratic Party. Now that’s what I call buy-partisanship.

  35. “Dinner guests say that postpresidency planning is a big topic of conversation but not the only one. “He loves those sessions,” a top adviser said. “They’re very nourishing to him.” …”

    Oh boy. I bet he does live those sessions and find them nourishing!

  36. I have an acquaintance of similar personality as Obama. He is neurotic, shy and always seems out of place and has a fragile self-ego. He’s not aggressive or a bad person or anything like that. He simply is too neurotic and takes any criticism as a sign of everything being wrong about him/being worried.

    I imagine had he had the same benefits as the Pres*, he too would have similar social skills and bearing. 10,000 hours do have their effect after all.

    *People lining around the block to tell him how awesome he is, and an audience to chant his name on command.

    Take this comment for what it’s worth.

    • Replies: @ricpic
    Any comment telling me Obama is not a bad person ain't worth spit.
  37. Here’s an example Obama’s fragility.

    A more social person or even an extrovert would have better facial control. This isn’t to suggest he couldn’t improve. Rather that he hasn’t developed the psychological scar tissue needed to learn face control.

    And hopefully this won’t be taken as ‘Let’s talk bad about Obama’.

    He should have taken an year off to develop game and learn to handle being blown out of sets/rejection/public humiliation. The problem he has is he’s been thrust into the presidency *before* he’s learned it. And he apparently hasn’t learned it in office.

    • Replies: @TWS
    It's something I see in common with many heavy mj users and other drug addicts. Either sullen stone face or uncontrollable expression. The guy jumped behind his wife with an ow don't hurt me look watch two men play at judo. Imagine what he'd look like if somebody busted in while he was watch espn and said the Russians have pushed the button.
  38. @Rifleman
    If there's a President Hilary I'm guessing there's a Supreme Court Justice Obama as a replacement for Ginzberg.

    a likely emphasis on criminal justice reform after he leaves office.
     
    After he leaves office? LOL.

    His eulogy for one of nine African-Americans killed at a church in Charleston, S.C., is a forerunner, they say, of a focus on race relations.
     
    Getting up on his High Horse and lecturing America against church massacres? Good one.

    Don't know if Obama had much to say after Omar Thornton went on his racist rampage in 2010.

    Rifleman: You scoped out the one interesting bit of information in the article–namely, that the President actually intends to leave office after 2016.

    I reckoned that as good news; but your less credulous response is probably closer to the mark.

    • Replies: @Rifleman

    Rifleman: You scoped out the one interesting bit of information in the article–namely, that the President actually intends to leave office after 2016.

    I reckoned that as good news; but your less credulous response is probably closer to the mark.
     
    That's not what I meant at all. I have no conspiracy theories about the marxistmuslimkenyanwhowantstoputallwhitemenindeathcamps leaving office.

    That's a non issue.

    When I wrote


    After he leaves office? LOL.
     
    I meant why would he want to wait till he lost Presidential power to deal with an issue that disproportionately affects "his people" and his hypothetical sons???

    Shouldn't that have been a priority entering office and not after leaving?
  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Percy Gryce
    The N.Y. Times article is an amazing document. It simply drips with privilege and insouciance. Is there better evidence that Obama and his people simply give not a fuck about governing? "Glide path," indeed ("barring crises," naturally--o, what could go wrong in this sleepy, peaceful world of ours?).

    Of course, we're probably better off letting Barack play celebrity on our dime than having him actually governing. So plan on, Mr. President, your library patrons and foundation beneficiaries await.

    P.S.: My folks were on Martha's Vineyard this weekend and had their lunch interrupted by the Secret Service, who felt the necessity of wanding them three times while ex-President Clinton and ex-President-in-Training Obama played golf nearby.

    “The N.Y. Times article is an amazing document. It simply drips with privilege and insouciance. Is there better evidence that Obama and his people simply give not a fuck about governing? “Glide path,” indeed (“barring crises,” naturally–o, what could go wrong in this sleepy, peaceful world of ours?).”

    No kidding. I thought the same thing.

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @nglaer
    "Not give a fuck about governing"-- you guys is kidding. He's doing a major job in trying to pass the Iran deal, challenging, as no president ever has before, Israel's control over our Mideast policy. You may approve or disapprove (I'm for it) but to think he's not deep in the weeds in this (when he might well rather be playing golf) shows you're not paying attention.
    , @Anonymous
    "Obama et al. come off as very unserious people, but that can't be true. Can it?
  40. @Anonymous
    "The N.Y. Times article is an amazing document. It simply drips with privilege and insouciance. Is there better evidence that Obama and his people simply give not a fuck about governing? “Glide path,” indeed (“barring crises,” naturally–o, what could go wrong in this sleepy, peaceful world of ours?)."

    No kidding. I thought the same thing.

    “Not give a fuck about governing”– you guys is kidding. He’s doing a major job in trying to pass the Iran deal, challenging, as no president ever has before, Israel’s control over our Mideast policy. You may approve or disapprove (I’m for it) but to think he’s not deep in the weeds in this (when he might well rather be playing golf) shows you’re not paying attention.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce

    “Not give a fuck about governing”– you guys is kidding. He’s doing a major job in trying to pass the Iran deal, challenging, as no president ever has before, Israel’s control over our Mideast policy. You may approve or disapprove (I’m for it) but to think he’s not deep in the weeds in this (when he might well rather be playing golf) shows you’re not paying attention.
     
    Wouldn't real governing involve negotiating a treaty that could get bi-partisan support?

    This executive agreement--like everything second-term Obama--is pure glide path, no?
    , @TWS
    He's not 'deep in the weeds'. He's doing none of the political work necessary to cement what he's tried to do. He's always tried to govern by fiat. He wishes he could truly rule by fiat and has said so.

    When he can get away with it, he simply does what he wants regardless of whether or not it is legal or done through the correct channels.
  41. Since Michelle doesn’t really want to live with fancypants fabulous Ol’Barry, if the Columbia “wins” the BHO library contest, perhaps Barack and his old “couch” boyfriend can set up house again in Manhattan like the gay old days. Wonder how much the Clintons rue the day they failed to play the dirt card on Obama back in 2008 for fear of being called racist. Sure each major political career has datapoints when things could or should have gone sideways. But there is no other career like Obama’s that has as many instances where it should have gone bad-Mike Ditka not running, the immaculate release of Jack Ryan’s divorce docs, voting “present” in Illinois, slumlord Tony Rezko selling him half a house for peanuts, The crazy Rev and the down low club and the whole gay vibe, the obvious point that Obama/Sotero was an exchange student and the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn’t write a single thing, a complete lack of any intellect nor accomplishment, it goes on and on.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce

    the immaculate release of Jack Ryan’s divorce docs
     
    My preferred causality chain is: if Brannon Braga could have kept his pants on, then no President Balack Obama.
    , @Freddie
    It's even more surprising that the dirt card wasn't played by McCain/Palin or Romney/whoever his running mate was.
    , @tbraton
    "the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn’t write a single thing"

    I always found the MSM's indifference to the secrecy of Obama's college records a bit disturbing. As to his lack of a written article, do you know whether any past (or even subsequent) president of the Harvard Law Review can boast a similar accomplishment or was Obama the first? I don't recall the issue even being discussed, but I may have missed it. I realize that the Harvard Law Review used to appoint the student with the highest grade average as President but that was changed years ago to allow election. Obama was elected to the presidency of the Review.
    , @Anonymous
    I've never thought that Obama seemed gay, but it could perhaps in part explain why David Geffen threw Hillary under the bus in favor of Obama (i.e., in 2007, former Clinton supporter Geffen said "Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it's troubling.")
  42. @Discordiax
    Dave Pinsen misunderstands the nature of being the President of Black America. Post-White House Obama simply needs to give a big speech on ocassion decrying the racial crisis of the day and mobilizing anti-white anger. Then it's back to the golf course for a few months.

    It’s a bizarre political culture that now accepts simply making a happytalk speech solves everything.$18 trillion and counting.

  43. Obama should spend his post presidency in a prison cell. President Trump should hold treason trials for the entire Hope and Change administration.

  44. OF TOPIC: Interesting study involving the war on noticing

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/08/when-minority-kids-are-taught-color-blindness.html

    “What Happens When Minority Kids Are Taught Not to Talk About Race”

  45. @Steve Johnson
    "People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we’re basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn’t keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol–the movement became invested in her career."

    Not cynical enough.

    Bill and Hillary have a scam going and have had it going since Arkansas when she collected the extortion / bribes while Bill was governor.

    Post presidency she's been the senator / Secretary of State and he's collected the bribes / extortion money. She runs for president so they can plausibly keep the scam going even longer.

    Sure, Obama will get paid off but only really enough to make sure that politicians see that promises are kept. Since he doesn't have an ongoing scam going, I don't see him collecting money in the same league as the Clintons.

    Orange box well earned.

  46. @nglaer
    "Not give a fuck about governing"-- you guys is kidding. He's doing a major job in trying to pass the Iran deal, challenging, as no president ever has before, Israel's control over our Mideast policy. You may approve or disapprove (I'm for it) but to think he's not deep in the weeds in this (when he might well rather be playing golf) shows you're not paying attention.

    “Not give a fuck about governing”– you guys is kidding. He’s doing a major job in trying to pass the Iran deal, challenging, as no president ever has before, Israel’s control over our Mideast policy. You may approve or disapprove (I’m for it) but to think he’s not deep in the weeds in this (when he might well rather be playing golf) shows you’re not paying attention.

    Wouldn’t real governing involve negotiating a treaty that could get bi-partisan support?

    This executive agreement–like everything second-term Obama–is pure glide path, no?

    • Replies: @Lugash
    Bipartisan support would be a bill outlawing Iran and bombing beginning in five minutes.
  47. I don’t think Obama really expected to win in 2008. I think he was expecting to set himself up as the Designated Voice of Black America, a more respectable version of Al Sharpton. It’s a good gig if you can get it. You don’t really have to be accountable for results, and can just run your mouth.

    I suspect he’s going to spend his retirement as a kibitzer and critic, a role he’s really much more comfortable with by nature. He’ll be the Designated Voice of the Fringes.

  48. @Bugg
    Since Michelle doesn't really want to live with fancypants fabulous Ol'Barry, if the Columbia "wins" the BHO library contest, perhaps Barack and his old "couch" boyfriend can set up house again in Manhattan like the gay old days. Wonder how much the Clintons rue the day they failed to play the dirt card on Obama back in 2008 for fear of being called racist. Sure each major political career has datapoints when things could or should have gone sideways. But there is no other career like Obama's that has as many instances where it should have gone bad-Mike Ditka not running, the immaculate release of Jack Ryan's divorce docs, voting "present" in Illinois, slumlord Tony Rezko selling him half a house for peanuts, The crazy Rev and the down low club and the whole gay vibe, the obvious point that Obama/Sotero was an exchange student and the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn't write a single thing, a complete lack of any intellect nor accomplishment, it goes on and on.

    the immaculate release of Jack Ryan’s divorce docs

    My preferred causality chain is: if Brannon Braga could have kept his pants on, then no President Balack Obama.

  49. In addition to the Kenyan virtual reality library connection, I propose one for Manchuria to honor the Candidate.

  50. @Bugg
    Since Michelle doesn't really want to live with fancypants fabulous Ol'Barry, if the Columbia "wins" the BHO library contest, perhaps Barack and his old "couch" boyfriend can set up house again in Manhattan like the gay old days. Wonder how much the Clintons rue the day they failed to play the dirt card on Obama back in 2008 for fear of being called racist. Sure each major political career has datapoints when things could or should have gone sideways. But there is no other career like Obama's that has as many instances where it should have gone bad-Mike Ditka not running, the immaculate release of Jack Ryan's divorce docs, voting "present" in Illinois, slumlord Tony Rezko selling him half a house for peanuts, The crazy Rev and the down low club and the whole gay vibe, the obvious point that Obama/Sotero was an exchange student and the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn't write a single thing, a complete lack of any intellect nor accomplishment, it goes on and on.

    It’s even more surprising that the dirt card wasn’t played by McCain/Palin or Romney/whoever his running mate was.

  51. At least our pols aren’t building pyramids–yet. Unfortunately, history has proven that the maintenance costs of a library are a lot higher than that of a pyramid.

  52. Presidential library? Well, a grifters gonna grift.

    These libraries are top-flight money laundering operations. Maybe Sasha and Malia will each get multi-million dollar salary jobs out of it, to say nothing of Michelle. One way or another, Obama will be sitting pretty the rest of his days, watching March Madness is his mansion while he’s served Grey Goose by former Chippendales dancers, the viewing only interrupted by the muffled sounds of Linsdey Graham in the basement lock up struggling with his ball gag.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "These libraries are top-flight money laundering operations. Maybe Sasha and Malia will each get multi-million dollar salary jobs out of it, to say nothing of Michelle."

    Indeed. Just look at the career of Chelsea Clinton - she never would have gotten the "jobs" she has had based on her own intrinsic merit.
  53. There maybe some economic turbulence in Obama’s post presidential ‘glide path’. The Clinton’s have shaken the money tree hard and a lot of the ripest fruit has already been taken by them. You do have to be willing to show up to make $200,000 plus per appearance and by that standard Bill and The Rodhamster are hardworking. Their greed was never an issue either. It was a feature of their presidency with John Huang, Charlie Tree, Marc Rich and the like a constant background noise. Not sure if Obama has that kind of energy or talent for putting the grip on people.

    While no doubt Obama will be able to make a lot of money as an ex-president, Michelle seems to have taken to the good life with a vengeance but the taxpayer was paying for her luxury hotel suites and Barack is going to have to pick up that tab in the future. Being private jet rich ( and we aren’t talking about some Cessna Mustang here) with a home/s Michelle would find suitable plus travel and hotels for her and the kids is going to make Obama have to hustle. Will publishers offer him $10 million book deals? Is Obama willing to make 40 or 50 appearances at Wall St. bankers dinners and trade association conventions every year. The petro monarchies aren’t as rich as they once were. Nobody is likely to be either in the years ahead. If stock markets fall it is likely the market for presidential speeches will too and The Rodhamster may be starting a new ‘legal defense fund’ in the near future.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    This. Plus, Obama is all about Being the Most Famous Man in the World. Can he live like Jimmy Carter or even "ordinary" Bill Clinton who post-President, was cut down to approximately human size?

    Then there is his successor. If its Hillary!, well hell hath no fury than a woman who was "denied" her destiny and there will be "Hell to Pay!" for Obama and his cronies. President Hillary would conduct a scorched earth campaign against the real enemy: Obama.

    And that's the whole point vis Clinton and Obama. Its like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. A deal of convenience with each party racing to double cross the other with a decisive blow as soon as possible. My tea leave reading says that Obama allowing the FBI/DOJ to pursue the Clinton E-mail server has a plan: indictments of Hillary just before the Convention, a "deal" akin to that disqualifying his mentor from the ballot at the last minute, Ryan's divorce papers at the last minute going public, etc. With a Medvedev like pawn, or Michelle, or heck Barry himself as nominee daring YT to do anything about it. Its like not he's shown devotion to the Constitution s President.

    I've seen a suggestion that he could have Biden be the nominee, and then have Biden withdraw after the election before he takes office; the 22nd Amendment does not explicitly prevent the President from being a candidate for the VP. Thus Obama simply takes office again, and can repeat the trick over and over again.

    Michelle MUST have her constant travel and luxury accomodations. The Obamas on their own won't have the money as Unit472 notes. Obama is at least as dominated by Michelle as Jebe! is by his wife.
    , @Alec Leamas
    Keep in mind as well that the Clintons were able to give current and credible/probable future favors in return for contributions as a function of Hillary!'s office as Secretary of State and her inchoate Presidential prospects.

    Barack has termed out and Michelle is not a credible future anything, so the returns inuring to donors would not be quite as juicy.
  54. @anowow
    Sycophants and bribes aside, what does it say about our society that taxpayers have to help fund these libraries. If they were maintained through private funds it would be darkly amusing. But in bipartisan fashion, our elites have determined that the proles must subsidize these latter-day shrines. At a time when real libraries are having to reduce hours, why are tax-dollars subverted to these parasitic, propagandistic entities?

    Obviously, the Democratic party would do nothing to stop this. But what about the party of ostensibly small government? I can't imagine them doing anything that would take cash away from the Reagan shrine.
    WaPo in January said the bill is now approaching 100 million a year. For what? In the past 60 years have we had leaders worth venerating, truly?


    When will it stop? How many more presidents get one? Even the Roman Empire didn't maintain civic cults of the bad emperors.

    Spectacular waste of $800 million

    • Agree: EriK
  55. @keypusher
    It can be as little or as much work as the justice wants, since he gets four bright and incredibly diligent clerks, collectively capable of researching and writing every word he prints or utters.

    Breyer works quite hard, I understand. Thurgood Marshall spent the later years of his tenure watching soap operas.

    I agree that BHO wouldn’t want anything but Chief Justice. The only fly in that ointment is that as Chief, he might have to work a bit.

    On the other hand, Obama did occupy a similar post before, his gig at the Harvard Law Review. He played arbiter and figurehead without contributing. So Yes, perhaps he would really like the Chief Justice post. As others have said, he could appoint clerks to do all the work while he pontificates.

    Chicago and for that matter Mrs. Obama have played out their assigned roles in the Obama saga. I doubt he gives a damn about where his book-less library is. His emblematic black wife always seems one dyspeptic step away from going off on her own. The kids are close to grown. She can leave him as a “Strong, independent black woman,” and still be guaranteed a pedestal in the leftist pantheon.

    From what we’ve seen of the current Chief Justice, I imagine he could be induced to exit for an enticing sinecure.

  56. Eva Longoria, check.

    Malcolm Gladwell, check.

    Steven Spielberg, check.

    Toni Morrison, check.

    But wait – where was Ta-Nehisi?

    I guess he’s moved on to bigger and better things.

  57. @Percy Gryce

    “Not give a fuck about governing”– you guys is kidding. He’s doing a major job in trying to pass the Iran deal, challenging, as no president ever has before, Israel’s control over our Mideast policy. You may approve or disapprove (I’m for it) but to think he’s not deep in the weeds in this (when he might well rather be playing golf) shows you’re not paying attention.
     
    Wouldn't real governing involve negotiating a treaty that could get bi-partisan support?

    This executive agreement--like everything second-term Obama--is pure glide path, no?

    Bipartisan support would be a bill outlawing Iran and bombing beginning in five minutes.

  58. @anowow
    Sycophants and bribes aside, what does it say about our society that taxpayers have to help fund these libraries. If they were maintained through private funds it would be darkly amusing. But in bipartisan fashion, our elites have determined that the proles must subsidize these latter-day shrines. At a time when real libraries are having to reduce hours, why are tax-dollars subverted to these parasitic, propagandistic entities?

    Obviously, the Democratic party would do nothing to stop this. But what about the party of ostensibly small government? I can't imagine them doing anything that would take cash away from the Reagan shrine.
    WaPo in January said the bill is now approaching 100 million a year. For what? In the past 60 years have we had leaders worth venerating, truly?


    When will it stop? How many more presidents get one? Even the Roman Empire didn't maintain civic cults of the bad emperors.

    None of the leaders in the last 60 years are worth venerating. They are in fact embarrassments to the country. And yes these losers have spawned political cults that venerate the dead and decaying ex-presidents.

    And why? All of these presidents were PR creations. They never existed outside of the boob tube. Their words are not their own, their thinking is the thinking of others, how they dress and how interact with others is all staged and managed.

    I think it was Fred Reed who pointed this out that the president really doesn’t exist, you have a front man and bunch of image consultants and speech writers who create the fiction that we have a president.

  59. @Bugg
    Since Michelle doesn't really want to live with fancypants fabulous Ol'Barry, if the Columbia "wins" the BHO library contest, perhaps Barack and his old "couch" boyfriend can set up house again in Manhattan like the gay old days. Wonder how much the Clintons rue the day they failed to play the dirt card on Obama back in 2008 for fear of being called racist. Sure each major political career has datapoints when things could or should have gone sideways. But there is no other career like Obama's that has as many instances where it should have gone bad-Mike Ditka not running, the immaculate release of Jack Ryan's divorce docs, voting "present" in Illinois, slumlord Tony Rezko selling him half a house for peanuts, The crazy Rev and the down low club and the whole gay vibe, the obvious point that Obama/Sotero was an exchange student and the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn't write a single thing, a complete lack of any intellect nor accomplishment, it goes on and on.

    “the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn’t write a single thing”

    I always found the MSM’s indifference to the secrecy of Obama’s college records a bit disturbing. As to his lack of a written article, do you know whether any past (or even subsequent) president of the Harvard Law Review can boast a similar accomplishment or was Obama the first? I don’t recall the issue even being discussed, but I may have missed it. I realize that the Harvard Law Review used to appoint the student with the highest grade average as President but that was changed years ago to allow election. Obama was elected to the presidency of the Review.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    Obama did have one unsigned "case comments" article in the HLR that concerned a niche abortion policy question.
  60. @Bugg
    Since Michelle doesn't really want to live with fancypants fabulous Ol'Barry, if the Columbia "wins" the BHO library contest, perhaps Barack and his old "couch" boyfriend can set up house again in Manhattan like the gay old days. Wonder how much the Clintons rue the day they failed to play the dirt card on Obama back in 2008 for fear of being called racist. Sure each major political career has datapoints when things could or should have gone sideways. But there is no other career like Obama's that has as many instances where it should have gone bad-Mike Ditka not running, the immaculate release of Jack Ryan's divorce docs, voting "present" in Illinois, slumlord Tony Rezko selling him half a house for peanuts, The crazy Rev and the down low club and the whole gay vibe, the obvious point that Obama/Sotero was an exchange student and the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn't write a single thing, a complete lack of any intellect nor accomplishment, it goes on and on.

    I’ve never thought that Obama seemed gay, but it could perhaps in part explain why David Geffen threw Hillary under the bus in favor of Obama (i.e., in 2007, former Clinton supporter Geffen said “Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it’s troubling.”)

  61. @Anonymous
    "The N.Y. Times article is an amazing document. It simply drips with privilege and insouciance. Is there better evidence that Obama and his people simply give not a fuck about governing? “Glide path,” indeed (“barring crises,” naturally–o, what could go wrong in this sleepy, peaceful world of ours?)."

    No kidding. I thought the same thing.

    “Obama et al. come off as very unserious people, but that can’t be true. Can it?

  62. the story of Mr. Obama’s presidency

    That’s a pretty damn boring story, isn’t it?

  63. “Ideally, one adviser said, a person in Kenya could put on a pair of virtual reality goggles and be transported to Mr. Obama’s 2008 speech on race in Philadelphia.”

    If the other option is actually transporting them to Philadelphia, then, yes, this would be ideal.

  64. Does Barry know enough about opera to be on the Supreme Court?

  65. Just so long as he stays far, far away from Eastasia.

  66. “low energy and antisocial”
    Isn’t that a close relative of us ” bitter clingers?”

  67. OT, Time has a list of the best places to live in America. I went through the first 10 or so, and found them to be overwhelmingly white. Most seemed to be in the high 80 percent range with a couple around 78%. But at number 7 was Chanhassen, MN.

    From the wiki entry on Chanhassen, MN

    The racial makeup of the city was 100 % White, 0% African American, 0.% Native American, 0% Asian, 0%from other races, and 0% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0% of the population.

    Maybe some of the places on this list have “diversity”, but I doubt it. How can these people continue to not notice that the places they describe as the best places to live in the US seem to have the least amount of the very diversity they seem to push?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks, I'll post.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    From the wiki entry on Chanhassen, MN

    The racial makeup of the city was 100 % White, 0% African American, 0.% Native American, 0% Asian, 0%from other races, and 0% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0% of the population.

     

    This presumes the most famous Chanhassenite is either misclassified, or has packed up and moved.
  68. @ChrisZ
    Rifleman: You scoped out the one interesting bit of information in the article--namely, that the President actually intends to leave office after 2016.

    I reckoned that as good news; but your less credulous response is probably closer to the mark.

    Rifleman: You scoped out the one interesting bit of information in the article–namely, that the President actually intends to leave office after 2016.

    I reckoned that as good news; but your less credulous response is probably closer to the mark.

    That’s not what I meant at all. I have no conspiracy theories about the marxistmuslimkenyanwhowantstoputallwhitemenindeathcamps leaving office.

    That’s a non issue.

    When I wrote

    After he leaves office? LOL.

    I meant why would he want to wait till he lost Presidential power to deal with an issue that disproportionately affects “his people” and his hypothetical sons???

    Shouldn’t that have been a priority entering office and not after leaving?

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
  69. “He loves those sessions,” a top adviser said. “They’re very nourishing to him.” …

    And why not, because it is all about him. Imagine being the center of the universe surrounded by people whose favorite subject is generally themselves and here they are paying homage as if to a religious figure.

    Come to think of it, for these people Obama is a sort of a Messiah and someone to be duly adored and worshipped.

    Guess all that reverence and temple building wouldn’t wear out the President, just so long as he can be on the links by an early hour.

    Not sure what exactly Malcolm Gladwell was doing there, except perhaps to blink a bit at all the excitement surrounding the greatest world figure of the past half century, and Obama no doubt would certainly agree with him, after tossing out a bon mot along the lines of:

    “And by the way, Malcolm, you’re certainly right about those crafty and shifty Chicago car salesmen. That’s why Michelle and I have decided in the future to let the hired help ER I mean the secret servicemen choose our cars for us. It’s less embarrassing that way, and of course, its less racist besides.”

    I’m sure that Gladwell will one day report on the good tidings of that time he spent personally advising Obama on what to do regarding post-presidential retirement and how to avoid being the victim of racial prejudice.

    “Don’t grow an Afro, Mr. President. It won’t help alleviate race tensions and you just might get hasseled by the man.”

    “Don’t I know it, Malcolm, don’t I know it.”

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  70. Back when I lived at 109th and Amsterdam in 1979, we called the whole street 110th; no ‘Tito Puente Way’ in the east, maybe a nod to ‘Cathedral Parkway’ in the west and definitely no try-hard name for the park’s northern border to chase the affluence of 5th Avenue (‘Central Park East’ would be a come-down), the storied hotels of CPS or the then-nouveau riche side, with its border at CPW.

    If ‘Central Park North’ is now for real, I’m guessing Harlem gentrification is closer to its finish than its start. Those with up-to-date information, please fill me in.

  71. Black man dislikes Hillary.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Honestly, though, I think he's being rather unfair to the pig.
  72. @JohnnyWalker123
    Black man dislikes Hillary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzAHzxNzKEc

    Honestly, though, I think he’s being rather unfair to the pig.

  73. @Dave Pinsen
    They do get the summers off. In the mid-90s, when I was working as a cold caller in tiny brokerage across from the Trump Tower, I tried reaching Scalia for the challenge of it. This was in July or August. I got his assistant, who said he was in the south of France, teaching a class for a New York area university (maybe Pace or Hofstra, I forget which). So, basically, the university bought Scalia a luxury vacation in France, in addition to his teaching fee, to be able to list a Supreme Court Justice as an adjunct faculty member at its law school.

    Dave Pinsen, this is off topic, what do you think about the brokerage industry? I’d be interested to hear about your experiences as a New York securities broker and your thoughts on the profession.

    Ever see the movie Wall Street?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Sure, I've seen Wall Street -- one of the top five movies of the 1980s, in my opinion. Not a whole lot of connection to what I was doing, except that, as in the movie Boiler Room, everyone I worked with had seen the movie lots of times, and, at the time, brokerages used to un-ironically post help wanted ads in the NY Times saying, "Wanted: Bud Fox".

    I was more in "low finance" when I worked as a cold caller in New York. The company I worked for was a "boutique" (i.e., small) investment bank called Barington Capital that did IPOs for small companies. One of their IPOs was for Vermont Teddy Bear, for example.

    Sort of like Stratton Oakmont in The Wolf of Wall Street, "Barington" was a made-up, WASPy sounding name (in place names, it's usually spelled with two r's, e.g., Barrington, IL). The founder was an Italian American fellow named Jim Mitarotonda. Unlike Stratton Oakmont though, Barington was legit, as far as I know. It's still around, though it appears to have evolved into an activist investment fund rather than a brokerage/investment bank.

    The brokers I worked with there sold shares of stock in tiny companies to rich guys with money to burn. They wouldn't sell anything to anyone with less than $500k in common stock, and a lot of their clients had multiple brokers. I worked there for a few months until they sponsored me for my Series 7 exam.

    From there, I ended up getting into financial wholesaling, working for a mutual fund company that sold its funds through financial advisors. Those brokers/financial advisors/financial planners had a different way of doing business than the guys at Barington. They generally didn't sell any stock, and their clientele extended beyond rich guys with money to burn. One of my biggest customers was an insurance agent/financial planner in San Francisco who had some connection with Pac Bell. He'd do seminars there, and every time someone retired from Pac Bell, they'd come to him, and he'd take their 401(k) and invest it in a portfolio of our mutual funds.

    As for my thoughts on the industry, the first model, brokers selling tiny stocks to rich guys, I don't have much of an opinion on. Rich guys need entertainment, and probably a lot of those guys are getting into angel investing now in startups. As for the second model, financial planners/advisors selling mutual funds and ETFs to regular folks, I came to view that negatively.

    Mutual funds and ETFs provide lots of diversification, but the problem is that, when the crap hits the fan, "correlations go to one", which means, almost every stock (and lots of other asset classes) tank at the same time. So, diversification doesn't protect investors against market crashes like the ones in 2000-2002 and 20008-2009.

    I spent the last few years thinking about a better approach for average investors, and, after testing it over the last year, I think I came up with one. You can read about it in detail here, but, in a nutshell, the idea is to invest in a handful of hedged securities with high expected returns. That is, you buy stocks that have a good chance of doing well, and, at the same time, you buy insurance to protect your money in the event that they don't. So, in the worst case scenario, your downside is strictly and precisely limited.
  74. It’s bitterly amusing that the piece mentions John Doerr as an Obama pal, as the past seven years have guaranteed that nobody will ever be able to follow the pathway to success that John Doerr did, i.e., taking a chance on risky companies with big, brash ideas but no immediately obvious, proven revenue model. I don’t know enough about Doerr to say if he would see that as a bug or a feature.

    Obama’s dilemma seems to be that he’s strongly inclined to follow the old, pre-1980 model of a post-presidential career — playing a lot of golf, serving on a few corporate boards and giving the occasional speech. But while Republicans have mostly kept to that model, the last two Democrats to inhabit the White House have forged different, more activist post-presidential careers, and there is apparently now an unspoken assumption that all future Democratic presidents must do the same. My guess is that he’ll basically give the Barack Obama Foundation to Michelle to be her personal activist playpen while he kicks off at lunch each day to hit the links.

    The other suggestion I’ve heard that sounds plausible is that some future Democrat might appoint Obama to serve on the Supreme Court. That sounds like Obama’s dream job: He gets to sit around making nakedly political decisions disguised with a bunch of gaseous Kennedyesque legal rhetoric, and as long as he can get four other justices to sign on to whatever he says, he doesn’t have to put up with any backtalk — at least not from anybody who matters.

  75. Following his presidency, the best we may all hope for is Obama swimming to Hawaii with Michelle on his back.

  76. @Steve Johnson
    "People always take me for a crank when I say it but I think we’re basically electing Hillary because Bill couldn’t keep it in his pants.
    She emerged as a political actor in her own right when, as first lady of Arkansas, conservatives criticized her appearance, and feminists rallied around her. As Bill ascended so did her importance as a symbol–the movement became invested in her career."

    Not cynical enough.

    Bill and Hillary have a scam going and have had it going since Arkansas when she collected the extortion / bribes while Bill was governor.

    Post presidency she's been the senator / Secretary of State and he's collected the bribes / extortion money. She runs for president so they can plausibly keep the scam going even longer.

    Sure, Obama will get paid off but only really enough to make sure that politicians see that promises are kept. Since he doesn't have an ongoing scam going, I don't see him collecting money in the same league as the Clintons.

    Is it a scam if the influence peddling the Clintons are paid for gets the payer results? I can’t imagine the millions paid to the Clintons in speaking fees would continue to be paid if there wasn’t a track record of favors obtained in return from friends of Bill & Hillary.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I was talking to a Jewish friend recently who moved to Rockland County, NY and was complaining about the Hasids. He was telling me that everyone hates them there including fellow Jews. I recalled something about a town that voted for Hillary in 2000 at a 99% return. I couldn't recall the exact details until I googled it. New Square. Total quid pro quo for four of Bill's departing pardons. All to secure 1600 votes. Excellent example of their corruption. FOR NOTHING. She swept Lazio. Never answered any questions. She's trying the same tactics 16 years later.
  77. @tbraton
    "the complete embargo on his college records, a Harvard law review editor who doesn’t write a single thing"

    I always found the MSM's indifference to the secrecy of Obama's college records a bit disturbing. As to his lack of a written article, do you know whether any past (or even subsequent) president of the Harvard Law Review can boast a similar accomplishment or was Obama the first? I don't recall the issue even being discussed, but I may have missed it. I realize that the Harvard Law Review used to appoint the student with the highest grade average as President but that was changed years ago to allow election. Obama was elected to the presidency of the Review.

    Obama did have one unsigned “case comments” article in the HLR that concerned a niche abortion policy question.

  78. @JohnnyWalker123
    Dave Pinsen, this is off topic, what do you think about the brokerage industry? I'd be interested to hear about your experiences as a New York securities broker and your thoughts on the profession.

    Ever see the movie Wall Street?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-jOAmy4DIU

    Sure, I’ve seen Wall Street — one of the top five movies of the 1980s, in my opinion. Not a whole lot of connection to what I was doing, except that, as in the movie Boiler Room, everyone I worked with had seen the movie lots of times, and, at the time, brokerages used to un-ironically post help wanted ads in the NY Times saying, “Wanted: Bud Fox”.

    I was more in “low finance” when I worked as a cold caller in New York. The company I worked for was a “boutique” (i.e., small) investment bank called Barington Capital that did IPOs for small companies. One of their IPOs was for Vermont Teddy Bear, for example.

    Sort of like Stratton Oakmont in The Wolf of Wall Street, “Barington” was a made-up, WASPy sounding name (in place names, it’s usually spelled with two r’s, e.g., Barrington, IL). The founder was an Italian American fellow named Jim Mitarotonda. Unlike Stratton Oakmont though, Barington was legit, as far as I know. It’s still around, though it appears to have evolved into an activist investment fund rather than a brokerage/investment bank.

    The brokers I worked with there sold shares of stock in tiny companies to rich guys with money to burn. They wouldn’t sell anything to anyone with less than $500k in common stock, and a lot of their clients had multiple brokers. I worked there for a few months until they sponsored me for my Series 7 exam.

    From there, I ended up getting into financial wholesaling, working for a mutual fund company that sold its funds through financial advisors. Those brokers/financial advisors/financial planners had a different way of doing business than the guys at Barington. They generally didn’t sell any stock, and their clientele extended beyond rich guys with money to burn. One of my biggest customers was an insurance agent/financial planner in San Francisco who had some connection with Pac Bell. He’d do seminars there, and every time someone retired from Pac Bell, they’d come to him, and he’d take their 401(k) and invest it in a portfolio of our mutual funds.

    As for my thoughts on the industry, the first model, brokers selling tiny stocks to rich guys, I don’t have much of an opinion on. Rich guys need entertainment, and probably a lot of those guys are getting into angel investing now in startups. As for the second model, financial planners/advisors selling mutual funds and ETFs to regular folks, I came to view that negatively.

    Mutual funds and ETFs provide lots of diversification, but the problem is that, when the crap hits the fan, “correlations go to one”, which means, almost every stock (and lots of other asset classes) tank at the same time. So, diversification doesn’t protect investors against market crashes like the ones in 2000-2002 and 20008-2009.

    I spent the last few years thinking about a better approach for average investors, and, after testing it over the last year, I think I came up with one. You can read about it in detail here, but, in a nutshell, the idea is to invest in a handful of hedged securities with high expected returns. That is, you buy stocks that have a good chance of doing well, and, at the same time, you buy insurance to protect your money in the event that they don’t. So, in the worst case scenario, your downside is strictly and precisely limited.

  79. @Sailer has an interesting life
    I have an acquaintance of similar personality as Obama. He is neurotic, shy and always seems out of place and has a fragile self-ego. He's not aggressive or a bad person or anything like that. He simply is too neurotic and takes any criticism as a sign of everything being wrong about him/being worried.

    I imagine had he had the same benefits as the Pres*, he too would have similar social skills and bearing. 10,000 hours do have their effect after all.

    *People lining around the block to tell him how awesome he is, and an audience to chant his name on command.

    Take this comment for what it's worth.

    Any comment telling me Obama is not a bad person ain’t worth spit.

    • Replies: @Sailer has an interesting life
    I was referring to my friend not being a bad person.
  80. @5371
    Though this story is about a library, I guessed there would be no books in it.

    [guests say his drink of choice at the gatherings is an extra-dry Grey Goose martini]

    Pretentious creep.

    [Ideally, one adviser said, a person in Kenya could put on a pair of virtual reality goggles and be transported to Mr. Obama’s 2008 speech on race in Philadelphia.]

    Why would anyone want to do that?

    That’s the type of drink someone whose idea of class comes from James Bond movies would imbibe. No person with any knowledge about the right way to drink ever has a martini after dinner.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Isn't Grey Goose vodka one of those hip-hop star-favored brands like Cristal champagne and Maybach autos?
    , @AnotherDad

    No person with any knowledge about the right way to drink ever has a martini after dinner.
     
    There's a "right way" to drink? Who knew!
  81. @unit472
    There maybe some economic turbulence in Obama's post presidential 'glide path'. The Clinton's have shaken the money tree hard and a lot of the ripest fruit has already been taken by them. You do have to be willing to show up to make $200,000 plus per appearance and by that standard Bill and The Rodhamster are hardworking. Their greed was never an issue either. It was a feature of their presidency with John Huang, Charlie Tree, Marc Rich and the like a constant background noise. Not sure if Obama has that kind of energy or talent for putting the grip on people.

    While no doubt Obama will be able to make a lot of money as an ex-president, Michelle seems to have taken to the good life with a vengeance but the taxpayer was paying for her luxury hotel suites and Barack is going to have to pick up that tab in the future. Being private jet rich ( and we aren't talking about some Cessna Mustang here) with a home/s Michelle would find suitable plus travel and hotels for her and the kids is going to make Obama have to hustle. Will publishers offer him $10 million book deals? Is Obama willing to make 40 or 50 appearances at Wall St. bankers dinners and trade association conventions every year. The petro monarchies aren't as rich as they once were. Nobody is likely to be either in the years ahead. If stock markets fall it is likely the market for presidential speeches will too and The Rodhamster may be starting a new 'legal defense fund' in the near future.

    This. Plus, Obama is all about Being the Most Famous Man in the World. Can he live like Jimmy Carter or even “ordinary” Bill Clinton who post-President, was cut down to approximately human size?

    Then there is his successor. If its Hillary!, well hell hath no fury than a woman who was “denied” her destiny and there will be “Hell to Pay!” for Obama and his cronies. President Hillary would conduct a scorched earth campaign against the real enemy: Obama.

    And that’s the whole point vis Clinton and Obama. Its like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. A deal of convenience with each party racing to double cross the other with a decisive blow as soon as possible. My tea leave reading says that Obama allowing the FBI/DOJ to pursue the Clinton E-mail server has a plan: indictments of Hillary just before the Convention, a “deal” akin to that disqualifying his mentor from the ballot at the last minute, Ryan’s divorce papers at the last minute going public, etc. With a Medvedev like pawn, or Michelle, or heck Barry himself as nominee daring YT to do anything about it. Its like not he’s shown devotion to the Constitution s President.

    I’ve seen a suggestion that he could have Biden be the nominee, and then have Biden withdraw after the election before he takes office; the 22nd Amendment does not explicitly prevent the President from being a candidate for the VP. Thus Obama simply takes office again, and can repeat the trick over and over again.

    Michelle MUST have her constant travel and luxury accomodations. The Obamas on their own won’t have the money as Unit472 notes. Obama is at least as dominated by Michelle as Jebe! is by his wife.

  82. One odd bit in this article is the suggestion that the Obamas might stay in DC until their kids finish high school. Isn’t it the tradition for former Presidents to leave town immediately after their successors are inaugurated? Remember Obama seeing W. off to his helicopter?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Remember the Leftists throwing shoes at him as he departed? They really are Maoists at heart.
  83. …an animatronic Obama that can impart important lessons like Honest Abe while Obama’s golfing on Martha’s Vineyard, or one of Trump’s golf courses.

    Obummer, taking advantage of technological advances, should just be able to exceed the charisma of Abe’s version:

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    there's the intended link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i3M1_MWHLI

  84. @Dennis Dale
    ...an animatronic Obama that can impart important lessons like Honest Abe while Obama’s golfing on Martha’s Vineyard, or one of Trump’s golf courses.

    Obummer, taking advantage of technological advances, should just be able to exceed the charisma of Abe's version:

    there’s the intended link:

  85. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @ricpic
    Is it a scam if the influence peddling the Clintons are paid for gets the payer results? I can't imagine the millions paid to the Clintons in speaking fees would continue to be paid if there wasn't a track record of favors obtained in return from friends of Bill & Hillary.

    I was talking to a Jewish friend recently who moved to Rockland County, NY and was complaining about the Hasids. He was telling me that everyone hates them there including fellow Jews. I recalled something about a town that voted for Hillary in 2000 at a 99% return. I couldn’t recall the exact details until I googled it. New Square. Total quid pro quo for four of Bill’s departing pardons. All to secure 1600 votes. Excellent example of their corruption. FOR NOTHING. She swept Lazio. Never answered any questions. She’s trying the same tactics 16 years later.

  86. @Dave Pinsen
    One odd bit in this article is the suggestion that the Obamas might stay in DC until their kids finish high school. Isn't it the tradition for former Presidents to leave town immediately after their successors are inaugurated? Remember Obama seeing W. off to his helicopter?

    Remember the Leftists throwing shoes at him as he departed? They really are Maoists at heart.

  87. @ricpic
    Any comment telling me Obama is not a bad person ain't worth spit.

    I was referring to my friend not being a bad person.

  88. @Jefferson
    Glenn Beck makes a list of the top 15 U.S cities that he believes are the worst places to live. He ranks Portland at number 1 and Detroit at number 8.
    http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_28647039/glenn-beck-names-15-cities-that-you-dont?source=infinite

    I guess he sees urban inner city thug culture as the lesser of two evils compared to SWPL hipster culture.

    It is interesting that Glenn Beck does not use high crime rate as a criteria for whether or not an American city is considered a bad place to live. Hence why cities like Baltimore and Birmingham for example, did not make his list.

    Apparently Glenn Beck would feel more comfortable sending his kids to a public school in Baltimore than one in Portland.

    Only a politically correct Cuckservative like Glenn Beck would name the Whitest U.S city with a population of over 500,000 people as the worst big city in America to live in.

    This is the same Cuckservative that starts crying every time he starts talking about Martin Luther King, even though he was a Communist.

    Glenn Beck is pretty good when he is not talking about politics.

  89. @unit472
    There maybe some economic turbulence in Obama's post presidential 'glide path'. The Clinton's have shaken the money tree hard and a lot of the ripest fruit has already been taken by them. You do have to be willing to show up to make $200,000 plus per appearance and by that standard Bill and The Rodhamster are hardworking. Their greed was never an issue either. It was a feature of their presidency with John Huang, Charlie Tree, Marc Rich and the like a constant background noise. Not sure if Obama has that kind of energy or talent for putting the grip on people.

    While no doubt Obama will be able to make a lot of money as an ex-president, Michelle seems to have taken to the good life with a vengeance but the taxpayer was paying for her luxury hotel suites and Barack is going to have to pick up that tab in the future. Being private jet rich ( and we aren't talking about some Cessna Mustang here) with a home/s Michelle would find suitable plus travel and hotels for her and the kids is going to make Obama have to hustle. Will publishers offer him $10 million book deals? Is Obama willing to make 40 or 50 appearances at Wall St. bankers dinners and trade association conventions every year. The petro monarchies aren't as rich as they once were. Nobody is likely to be either in the years ahead. If stock markets fall it is likely the market for presidential speeches will too and The Rodhamster may be starting a new 'legal defense fund' in the near future.

    Keep in mind as well that the Clintons were able to give current and credible/probable future favors in return for contributions as a function of Hillary!’s office as Secretary of State and her inchoate Presidential prospects.

    Barack has termed out and Michelle is not a credible future anything, so the returns inuring to donors would not be quite as juicy.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    If Obama kneecaps the Clintons he will be in effect the party leader in exile. And then there's the Reverend Al shakedown angle. "Nice company you got there. Be a shame if some vibrancy happened to it."
  90. @Alec Leamas
    Keep in mind as well that the Clintons were able to give current and credible/probable future favors in return for contributions as a function of Hillary!'s office as Secretary of State and her inchoate Presidential prospects.

    Barack has termed out and Michelle is not a credible future anything, so the returns inuring to donors would not be quite as juicy.

    If Obama kneecaps the Clintons he will be in effect the party leader in exile. And then there’s the Reverend Al shakedown angle. “Nice company you got there. Be a shame if some vibrancy happened to it.”

  91. @iSteveFan
    OT, Time has a list of the best places to live in America. I went through the first 10 or so, and found them to be overwhelmingly white. Most seemed to be in the high 80 percent range with a couple around 78%. But at number 7 was Chanhassen, MN.

    From the wiki entry on Chanhassen, MN


    The racial makeup of the city was 100 % White, 0% African American, 0.% Native American, 0% Asian, 0%from other races, and 0% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0% of the population.
     
    Maybe some of the places on this list have "diversity", but I doubt it. How can these people continue to not notice that the places they describe as the best places to live in the US seem to have the least amount of the very diversity they seem to push?

    Thanks, I’ll post.

  92. @iSteveFan
    OT, Time has a list of the best places to live in America. I went through the first 10 or so, and found them to be overwhelmingly white. Most seemed to be in the high 80 percent range with a couple around 78%. But at number 7 was Chanhassen, MN.

    From the wiki entry on Chanhassen, MN


    The racial makeup of the city was 100 % White, 0% African American, 0.% Native American, 0% Asian, 0%from other races, and 0% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0% of the population.
     
    Maybe some of the places on this list have "diversity", but I doubt it. How can these people continue to not notice that the places they describe as the best places to live in the US seem to have the least amount of the very diversity they seem to push?

    From the wiki entry on Chanhassen, MN

    The racial makeup of the city was 100 % White, 0% African American, 0.% Native American, 0% Asian, 0%from other races, and 0% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0% of the population.

    This presumes the most famous Chanhassenite is either misclassified, or has packed up and moved.

  93. @Aristippus
    That's the type of drink someone whose idea of class comes from James Bond movies would imbibe. No person with any knowledge about the right way to drink ever has a martini after dinner.

    Isn’t Grey Goose vodka one of those hip-hop star-favored brands like Cristal champagne and Maybach autos?

    • Replies: @Aristippus
    It is. As Young Jeazy said, "[m]ix the Grey Goose with the cranberry juices." Grey Goose for a while actually sponsored a hip hop touring music festival. Some people think it's a great vodka, but I think it tastes like gasoline. The French should stick with wine and leave vodka to the Slavs.
    , @Boomstick
    Most liquor brands marketed as "premium" eventually get a hip-hop shout-out. In fact a number of rappers, including Jay-Z, have started selling their own "premium" vodkas or champagnes.

    I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I'd always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant.
    , @Anonymous
    Louis Roederer Cristal champagne has been around for a lot longer than hip-hop, as has cognac. I've heard that the people who manage the House of Roederer are none too thrilled about the brand's association with the gold teeth set.
  94. @peterike
    Presidential library? Well, a grifters gonna grift.

    These libraries are top-flight money laundering operations. Maybe Sasha and Malia will each get multi-million dollar salary jobs out of it, to say nothing of Michelle. One way or another, Obama will be sitting pretty the rest of his days, watching March Madness is his mansion while he's served Grey Goose by former Chippendales dancers, the viewing only interrupted by the muffled sounds of Linsdey Graham in the basement lock up struggling with his ball gag.

    “These libraries are top-flight money laundering operations. Maybe Sasha and Malia will each get multi-million dollar salary jobs out of it, to say nothing of Michelle.”

    Indeed. Just look at the career of Chelsea Clinton – she never would have gotten the “jobs” she has had based on her own intrinsic merit.

  95. “………….., and then use our Silicon Valley & Hollywood know-how to build an animatronic Obama that can impart important lessons like Honest Abe while Obama’s golfing on Martha’s Vineyard, or one of Trump’s golf courses.”

    That is a great idea. But it could be expanded upon. Instead of every President getting his own library, how about a national theme park – POTUS WORLD. It could be placed in Florida somewhere, and be run by Disney. Every outgoing President would get a new ride in his honor. Park patrons could have their pictures taken with cartoon mascots representing members of the various administrations: Joe Biden, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, John Bolton, etc.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
  96. @Harry Baldwin
    Isn't Grey Goose vodka one of those hip-hop star-favored brands like Cristal champagne and Maybach autos?

    It is. As Young Jeazy said, “[m]ix the Grey Goose with the cranberry juices.” Grey Goose for a while actually sponsored a hip hop touring music festival. Some people think it’s a great vodka, but I think it tastes like gasoline. The French should stick with wine and leave vodka to the Slavs.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Ok, i rarely drink the stuff ... but how can anyone be snooty about vodka?

    Seriously you're fermenting and distilling potatoes (or even simpler starches\sugars). It's water and alcohol.

    It's not like a whiskey where at least the blend of grains and the aging leave you with a bunch of different interesting flavors. (I had a nice Scotch Saturday at a party my wife's cousin was giving for Indian independence day and their personal independence day of launching their last kid to college. Hadn't had it--even heard of it--before, thought "this is pretty good".)

    Don't know why anyone would spend an extra dollar for so-and-so's vodka. To me the label just gives you piece of mind that it isn't joe bob's clear moonshine, and you won't go blind. Buy what's cheap.

    (Now if Costco would just put out samples ... i'd go taste test to verify my assertion.)
  97. @Harry Baldwin
    Isn't Grey Goose vodka one of those hip-hop star-favored brands like Cristal champagne and Maybach autos?

    Most liquor brands marketed as “premium” eventually get a hip-hop shout-out. In fact a number of rappers, including Jay-Z, have started selling their own “premium” vodkas or champagnes.

    I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I’d always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I’d always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink
     
    Fusty old WASPs can turn to HefeWheaties. A most unhip hop.
    , @Wilkey
    "Most liquor brands marketed as “premium” eventually get a hip-hop shout-out. In fact a number of rappers, including Jay-Z, have started selling their own “premium” vodkas or champagnes."

    Blacks are especially keen on conspicuous consumption. I once bought a highly rated $50 cabernet. It tasted absolutely no better than a good $10 cabernet. The only difference is that I was out $40 more than I otherwise would have been.
    , @Sean the Neon Caucasian
    "I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. "

    Oh yeah, it has been for some time. Another place I saw it was the rave scene in the '90s, too. Apparently higher quality cognac mixed with X or cocaine is damn near divine. Never did it myself, but I encountered plenty of OD cases back then.
  98. @Boomstick
    Most liquor brands marketed as "premium" eventually get a hip-hop shout-out. In fact a number of rappers, including Jay-Z, have started selling their own "premium" vodkas or champagnes.

    I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I'd always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant.

    I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I’d always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink

    Fusty old WASPs can turn to HefeWheaties. A most unhip hop.

  99. “Sure, Obama will get paid off but only really enough to make sure that politicians see that promises are kept. Since he doesn’t have an ongoing scam going, I don’t see him collecting money in the same league as the Clintons.”

    Having Hillary in office/running for president has certainly enabled the ongoing scam, but I think the bigger reason Clinton continues to rake in the wealth is that he was phenomenally friendly to Wall Street (deregulation, etc.) and to Jewish interests. His treasury secretaries were all Wall Street titans, and his administration was perhaps more Jewish than any presidential administration in history, including, most importantly, his two Supreme Court nominees. Wall Street and Jews are both very good at paying back favors in kind.

    Having already liberalized his party’s devotion to Wall Street, Obama didn’t have much to add, other than never getting around to prosecuting them for causing the Great Recession (no minor favor, granted).

    Bill Clinton has kept raking it in because of the favors he and his wife have done for these companies while in office. He’s never been busted for bribery because no direct promises were ever made – just the implicit assumption that the money would flow freely after he left. And these companies and individuals kept those implicit promises because a) the money is a rounding error compared to what Clinton did for them; and b) they want to send a message to other politicians that the same is in store for them.

    Obama may not be especially energetic compared to most presidents, but he’s probably spent more time in front of the cameras “addressing the nation” than any president in history. He loves to spout off. He loves being a celebrity. He will take every chance he gets to spout off after he leaves office, and he will have plenty of time to do it. Giving a speech written by a sub-six figure speech writer to some company or organization won’t take too much energy or time. He’s also a black guy, and that means that there’ll be plenty of corporations willing to add him to their boards in exchange for multi-million dollar salaries and stock options in order to diversify their boardrooms.

    Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Tony Blair are all now worth over $100 million each despite having nary a shred of private sector experience between them. Obama’s post-presidential schmoozing won’t be as aggressive as Clinton’s, but there will be plenty of low hanging fruit for him to grab, and he’ll easily hit that number within 5 years of leaving office, and it won’t cost him much time away from the golf course.

  100. @Anon
    Digital-first library?

    A Carrington Event isn't going to be all bad, then. "There's no great loss without some small gain."

    Dear Mr. Obama:
    If you don’t want to be blown away in the sands of time like some forgotten Ozymandias, make sure your legacy will not be destroyed by the next man-made EMP or sun-made Carrington Event. Take a hint from the Sumerians of Mesopotamia: convert all your electronic records to a more permanent form, like cuneiform clay tablets, which have lasted 5,000 years and counting.

  101. “I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I’d always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant.”

    I always associated cognac with Europe (the Continent, not Britain) – it is after all a french liquor. It only became vibrant over the last ten or fifteen years, when the gansta-rappers developed a taste for it. Hennesy even created a cognac specifically for the black market: Hennessy Black.

    To my taste, Martel is the best cognac. I find it to be smoother than either Courvoisier, Remy, or Hennessy.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Armagnac. Very good stuff can be had for less than $25.
    , @Ivy
    Re: Cognac
    Je suis Charles Martel!
  102. So people will raise more money for a guy when he’s leaving the presidency than when he’s campaigning for it? This makes me wonder whether the traditional concerns about campaign finance are just a misdirection.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    So people will raise more money for a guy when he’s leaving the presidency than when he’s campaigning for it? This makes me wonder whether the traditional concerns about campaign finance are just a misdirection.

    The defense industry figured out "ex post facto bribery" a long time ago, I'm sure that at heart it is a Levantine/Byzantine concept. The holluschickie are smart enough to understand bribery up front, and be suitably outraged, but bribery in back, that only the best grifters quite comprehend, so it goes unabated.

    The Clintons being paid insane sums for speeches no one paying them for even have the least interest in hearing is the most famous example. They are being paid not for what is expected of them in the future, and not even so much for what they themselves actually did, but for what others are expected to see and emulate in the future.

    For the last six decades, American military contractors have hired retired American officers for what amount to no-show jobs at munificent rates of pay by the thousands. They all are men-I suppose as time marches on a few women now as well-who held positions where they made decisions that affected the profitability of military contractors. They rallied for or against such a system, for or against a certain course of action, a certain requirement, a certain bidding process. Often, it was never anything that affected that particular company that much, or at all. There was never a quid pro quo stated or hinted at, on an individual level. Not even the most zealous prosecutor could find a whiff of it, because it really wasn't there. Indeed, the officer may well have never had any dealings in the least with that particular company.

    However, you can bet that officer was not a troublemaker, a shit disturber, a whistleblower. He mostly went along to go along. He championed no innovative concepts unless someone stood to make a lot of money off them, and who that someone was doesn't all that much matter, so long as they were some established player. Usually, he was just a regular Joe.

    Had he supported an unpopular program-unpopular as in not a big moneymaker for someone-or had he dimed out some dodgy contracting or worked to not adopt some plum program, of course, his post-retirement resumes would have been for nought. Even if he really could do needed work for some large or midsize contractor, no one would have been interested in him. He'd have cooties. Remember the guy who blew the whistle on Thiokol? He got a big award, but he never worked again. It wasn't because Thiokol was all that personally vindictive, it wasn't even their competitors couldn't have enjoyed seeing it. It was because the aerospace contractors had to maintain the line. Go along and you have a very pleasant retirement, fight us, bite the hand that feeds you, you will be living on your pension and nothing more. Not only that, you won't get invited for golf, for lunches, for company events, nothing.

    So most officers go along to get along thinking that if they do, they will have several cushy years with a big contractor and probably put away a couple of million dollars doing it if they live off their pension and invest the company check. Plus they'll get invited to golf with astronauts and Vietnam aces and the current VIPs, they will get escorted plant tours and a chance to sit in the cockpit of a Raptor with the displays powered up, hang out with other retirees and live a few years of the life of Riley.

    My father could have done that. He didn't. He fought what he thought was a huge boondoggle (it was) and when he retired the only aviation jobs that expressed the least interest in him were ones that had nothing to do whatsoever with anything he actually knew. He wound up teaching people to fly aerobatics (at twenty bucks per flight hour) until he lost his medical. He regretted it only because of me and my sister, who were his second set of kids. Had he went along, we could have lived in a million dollar house in San Diego instead of a condo in working-middle class Indiana.

    A lot of fighter jocks have immense physical courage. My father said that very few of them had any moral courage in the least, and I think he was right. But he did. I resented our plebian surroundings at the time, but I'm damn proud of him now knowing what he did: his duty as he saw it.

    Politicians, generally, have neither physical nor moral courage, and the sums involved a re a lot bigger, so one has to assume the principle is the same but the rewards bigger.
  103. @Boomstick
    Most liquor brands marketed as "premium" eventually get a hip-hop shout-out. In fact a number of rappers, including Jay-Z, have started selling their own "premium" vodkas or champagnes.

    I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I'd always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant.

    “Most liquor brands marketed as “premium” eventually get a hip-hop shout-out. In fact a number of rappers, including Jay-Z, have started selling their own “premium” vodkas or champagnes.”

    Blacks are especially keen on conspicuous consumption. I once bought a highly rated $50 cabernet. It tasted absolutely no better than a good $10 cabernet. The only difference is that I was out $40 more than I otherwise would have been.

  104. Obama should put his money where his mouth is and make his post-presidential home in Detroit, or Atlanta, or Memphis, or Haiti.

    Everything he says now about where he’ll live after leaving office is still just political nonsense. He’ll follow the trend of the increasing disconnect our “elites” have for the citizens and, like so many ex-congressmen who hang around in D.C. or New York, not move back to where he got his start. He’ll most likely move to New York. Staying in D.C. is second most likely, and going back to Chicago is a distant third.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "He’ll most likely move to New York."

    Hussein Obama will most likely choose one of the least Black neighborhoods in New York City to live in, like Tribeca for example where only 2 percent of the population is Black.
    http://www.areavibes.com/new+york-ny/tribeca/demographics/

    Jay-Z and Beyonce live in Tribeca. They are also big financial donors to Black Lives Matter, but they just don't want to have too many Black lives as their neighbors even though they are Black themselves. They could have chosen PG County, Maryland or Baldwin Hills, California to live in to be surrounded by other affluent Blacks, but they chose lily White Tribeca.

    Jay-Z and Beyonce's next door neighbor is De Niro and not DeShawnte.

  105. I thought they had already built an animatronic Obama.

  106. I keep hearing about Obama’s “legacy.” I’m not able to see one, but I hear about it.

  107. @Harry Baldwin
    Isn't Grey Goose vodka one of those hip-hop star-favored brands like Cristal champagne and Maybach autos?

    Louis Roederer Cristal champagne has been around for a lot longer than hip-hop, as has cognac. I’ve heard that the people who manage the House of Roederer are none too thrilled about the brand’s association with the gold teeth set.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    GM was glad for the sales boost at Cadillac from all the Escalade fans, as all that windfall cash helped them stave off BK slightly. Recall that the brand sucked wind and the clientele were dying off, prior to the Led Zeppelin music commercials for the new Cadillac.
  108. @WowJustWow
    So people will raise more money for a guy when he's leaving the presidency than when he's campaigning for it? This makes me wonder whether the traditional concerns about campaign finance are just a misdirection.

    So people will raise more money for a guy when he’s leaving the presidency than when he’s campaigning for it? This makes me wonder whether the traditional concerns about campaign finance are just a misdirection.

    The defense industry figured out “ex post facto bribery” a long time ago, I’m sure that at heart it is a Levantine/Byzantine concept. The holluschickie are smart enough to understand bribery up front, and be suitably outraged, but bribery in back, that only the best grifters quite comprehend, so it goes unabated.

    The Clintons being paid insane sums for speeches no one paying them for even have the least interest in hearing is the most famous example. They are being paid not for what is expected of them in the future, and not even so much for what they themselves actually did, but for what others are expected to see and emulate in the future.

    For the last six decades, American military contractors have hired retired American officers for what amount to no-show jobs at munificent rates of pay by the thousands. They all are men-I suppose as time marches on a few women now as well-who held positions where they made decisions that affected the profitability of military contractors. They rallied for or against such a system, for or against a certain course of action, a certain requirement, a certain bidding process. Often, it was never anything that affected that particular company that much, or at all. There was never a quid pro quo stated or hinted at, on an individual level. Not even the most zealous prosecutor could find a whiff of it, because it really wasn’t there. Indeed, the officer may well have never had any dealings in the least with that particular company.

    However, you can bet that officer was not a troublemaker, a shit disturber, a whistleblower. He mostly went along to go along. He championed no innovative concepts unless someone stood to make a lot of money off them, and who that someone was doesn’t all that much matter, so long as they were some established player. Usually, he was just a regular Joe.

    Had he supported an unpopular program-unpopular as in not a big moneymaker for someone-or had he dimed out some dodgy contracting or worked to not adopt some plum program, of course, his post-retirement resumes would have been for nought. Even if he really could do needed work for some large or midsize contractor, no one would have been interested in him. He’d have cooties. Remember the guy who blew the whistle on Thiokol? He got a big award, but he never worked again. It wasn’t because Thiokol was all that personally vindictive, it wasn’t even their competitors couldn’t have enjoyed seeing it. It was because the aerospace contractors had to maintain the line. Go along and you have a very pleasant retirement, fight us, bite the hand that feeds you, you will be living on your pension and nothing more. Not only that, you won’t get invited for golf, for lunches, for company events, nothing.

    So most officers go along to get along thinking that if they do, they will have several cushy years with a big contractor and probably put away a couple of million dollars doing it if they live off their pension and invest the company check. Plus they’ll get invited to golf with astronauts and Vietnam aces and the current VIPs, they will get escorted plant tours and a chance to sit in the cockpit of a Raptor with the displays powered up, hang out with other retirees and live a few years of the life of Riley.

    My father could have done that. He didn’t. He fought what he thought was a huge boondoggle (it was) and when he retired the only aviation jobs that expressed the least interest in him were ones that had nothing to do whatsoever with anything he actually knew. He wound up teaching people to fly aerobatics (at twenty bucks per flight hour) until he lost his medical. He regretted it only because of me and my sister, who were his second set of kids. Had he went along, we could have lived in a million dollar house in San Diego instead of a condo in working-middle class Indiana.

    A lot of fighter jocks have immense physical courage. My father said that very few of them had any moral courage in the least, and I think he was right. But he did. I resented our plebian surroundings at the time, but I’m damn proud of him now knowing what he did: his duty as he saw it.

    Politicians, generally, have neither physical nor moral courage, and the sums involved a re a lot bigger, so one has to assume the principle is the same but the rewards bigger.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This conspiracy you suggest sounds too unwieldy to be practiced. How many thousands of contractors are there? How many thousands and thousands of procurement officers and bureaucrats are there? How on earth can they all the monitored for docility to the contractor power?

    If your father's story is plausible there must be some details of the mechanism by which such a large system is implemented.

    Maybe your father was just a mediocre bureaucrat and couldn't get a good job after retirement.
    , @anonymous

    but bribery in back, that only the best grifters quite comprehend, so it goes unabated.
     
    These are all men, and now women, of honor. They keep their word, they've been to the good schools, live in the good areas and hobnob with the better sorts. An honest politician is one who, once bought, stays bought. Those giving the rewards can be relied upon to follow through; their word is as good as gold. This is the upper crust, our leading citizens.
  109. Obama probably only drinks Grey Goose because he thinks it makes him seem hip-hop and authentically down with the street, but he really likes some tropical drink with a little umbrella that his grandparents introduced him to, such as a Blue Hawaii.

    • Replies: @Sean the Neon Caucasian
    Grey Goose is hipster now? Honestly didn't know that and I'm not assed enough to keep up with trends like that. I like Grey Goose...
  110. Are you supposed to drink martinis after dinner?

    • Replies: @a Newsreader
    Not if you aren't an alcoholic.

    Speaking of which, have you heard any interesting tidbits about Hillary's drinking habits lately?
  111. @Boomstick
    Most liquor brands marketed as "premium" eventually get a hip-hop shout-out. In fact a number of rappers, including Jay-Z, have started selling their own "premium" vodkas or champagnes.

    I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I'd always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant.

    “I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. “

    Oh yeah, it has been for some time. Another place I saw it was the rave scene in the ’90s, too. Apparently higher quality cognac mixed with X or cocaine is damn near divine. Never did it myself, but I encountered plenty of OD cases back then.

  112. @Steve Sailer
    Obama probably only drinks Grey Goose because he thinks it makes him seem hip-hop and authentically down with the street, but he really likes some tropical drink with a little umbrella that his grandparents introduced him to, such as a Blue Hawaii.

    Grey Goose is hipster now? Honestly didn’t know that and I’m not assed enough to keep up with trends like that. I like Grey Goose…

  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Former Darfur
    So people will raise more money for a guy when he’s leaving the presidency than when he’s campaigning for it? This makes me wonder whether the traditional concerns about campaign finance are just a misdirection.

    The defense industry figured out "ex post facto bribery" a long time ago, I'm sure that at heart it is a Levantine/Byzantine concept. The holluschickie are smart enough to understand bribery up front, and be suitably outraged, but bribery in back, that only the best grifters quite comprehend, so it goes unabated.

    The Clintons being paid insane sums for speeches no one paying them for even have the least interest in hearing is the most famous example. They are being paid not for what is expected of them in the future, and not even so much for what they themselves actually did, but for what others are expected to see and emulate in the future.

    For the last six decades, American military contractors have hired retired American officers for what amount to no-show jobs at munificent rates of pay by the thousands. They all are men-I suppose as time marches on a few women now as well-who held positions where they made decisions that affected the profitability of military contractors. They rallied for or against such a system, for or against a certain course of action, a certain requirement, a certain bidding process. Often, it was never anything that affected that particular company that much, or at all. There was never a quid pro quo stated or hinted at, on an individual level. Not even the most zealous prosecutor could find a whiff of it, because it really wasn't there. Indeed, the officer may well have never had any dealings in the least with that particular company.

    However, you can bet that officer was not a troublemaker, a shit disturber, a whistleblower. He mostly went along to go along. He championed no innovative concepts unless someone stood to make a lot of money off them, and who that someone was doesn't all that much matter, so long as they were some established player. Usually, he was just a regular Joe.

    Had he supported an unpopular program-unpopular as in not a big moneymaker for someone-or had he dimed out some dodgy contracting or worked to not adopt some plum program, of course, his post-retirement resumes would have been for nought. Even if he really could do needed work for some large or midsize contractor, no one would have been interested in him. He'd have cooties. Remember the guy who blew the whistle on Thiokol? He got a big award, but he never worked again. It wasn't because Thiokol was all that personally vindictive, it wasn't even their competitors couldn't have enjoyed seeing it. It was because the aerospace contractors had to maintain the line. Go along and you have a very pleasant retirement, fight us, bite the hand that feeds you, you will be living on your pension and nothing more. Not only that, you won't get invited for golf, for lunches, for company events, nothing.

    So most officers go along to get along thinking that if they do, they will have several cushy years with a big contractor and probably put away a couple of million dollars doing it if they live off their pension and invest the company check. Plus they'll get invited to golf with astronauts and Vietnam aces and the current VIPs, they will get escorted plant tours and a chance to sit in the cockpit of a Raptor with the displays powered up, hang out with other retirees and live a few years of the life of Riley.

    My father could have done that. He didn't. He fought what he thought was a huge boondoggle (it was) and when he retired the only aviation jobs that expressed the least interest in him were ones that had nothing to do whatsoever with anything he actually knew. He wound up teaching people to fly aerobatics (at twenty bucks per flight hour) until he lost his medical. He regretted it only because of me and my sister, who were his second set of kids. Had he went along, we could have lived in a million dollar house in San Diego instead of a condo in working-middle class Indiana.

    A lot of fighter jocks have immense physical courage. My father said that very few of them had any moral courage in the least, and I think he was right. But he did. I resented our plebian surroundings at the time, but I'm damn proud of him now knowing what he did: his duty as he saw it.

    Politicians, generally, have neither physical nor moral courage, and the sums involved a re a lot bigger, so one has to assume the principle is the same but the rewards bigger.

    This conspiracy you suggest sounds too unwieldy to be practiced. How many thousands of contractors are there? How many thousands and thousands of procurement officers and bureaucrats are there? How on earth can they all the monitored for docility to the contractor power?

    If your father’s story is plausible there must be some details of the mechanism by which such a large system is implemented.

    Maybe your father was just a mediocre bureaucrat and couldn’t get a good job after retirement.

  114. @Mr. Anon
    "I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I’d always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant."

    I always associated cognac with Europe (the Continent, not Britain) - it is after all a french liquor. It only became vibrant over the last ten or fifteen years, when the gansta-rappers developed a taste for it. Hennesy even created a cognac specifically for the black market: Hennessy Black.

    To my taste, Martel is the best cognac. I find it to be smoother than either Courvoisier, Remy, or Hennessy.

    Armagnac. Very good stuff can be had for less than $25.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Yes, good suggestion. I'll give it a try sometime.
  115. “I doubt he gives a damn about where his book-less library is.”

    Books, as you know, are inherently vile and racist. Obama has freed his people from the horrific oppression of the printed word.

  116. @Sailer has an interesting life
    Here's an example Obama's fragility.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDocnbkHjhI

    A more social person or even an extrovert would have better facial control. This isn't to suggest he couldn't improve. Rather that he hasn't developed the psychological scar tissue needed to learn face control.

    And hopefully this won't be taken as 'Let's talk bad about Obama'.

    He should have taken an year off to develop game and learn to handle being blown out of sets/rejection/public humiliation. The problem he has is he's been thrust into the presidency *before* he's learned it. And he apparently hasn't learned it in office.

    It’s something I see in common with many heavy mj users and other drug addicts. Either sullen stone face or uncontrollable expression. The guy jumped behind his wife with an ow don’t hurt me look watch two men play at judo. Imagine what he’d look like if somebody busted in while he was watch espn and said the Russians have pushed the button.

  117. @nglaer
    "Not give a fuck about governing"-- you guys is kidding. He's doing a major job in trying to pass the Iran deal, challenging, as no president ever has before, Israel's control over our Mideast policy. You may approve or disapprove (I'm for it) but to think he's not deep in the weeds in this (when he might well rather be playing golf) shows you're not paying attention.

    He’s not ‘deep in the weeds’. He’s doing none of the political work necessary to cement what he’s tried to do. He’s always tried to govern by fiat. He wishes he could truly rule by fiat and has said so.

    When he can get away with it, he simply does what he wants regardless of whether or not it is legal or done through the correct channels.

  118. Financial planning for BHO will be easy. At a certain point, BHO will declare himself dictator for life. He can take what he wants. The Castro brothers will give him advise on how to do this.

  119. @Aristippus
    That's the type of drink someone whose idea of class comes from James Bond movies would imbibe. No person with any knowledge about the right way to drink ever has a martini after dinner.

    No person with any knowledge about the right way to drink ever has a martini after dinner.

    There’s a “right way” to drink? Who knew!

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Pre-food drinks are supposed to be dry, and stimulate the appetite. Post-food drinks are meant to aid digestion, go with dessert, go with coffee, or with tobacco, and get you crocked before bedtime.

    Martinis are usually dry, so by definition they are pre-food. After dinner I would expect the POTUS to be drinking brandy, cognac, or single malt. Here's the lowdown.
  120. @Aristippus
    It is. As Young Jeazy said, "[m]ix the Grey Goose with the cranberry juices." Grey Goose for a while actually sponsored a hip hop touring music festival. Some people think it's a great vodka, but I think it tastes like gasoline. The French should stick with wine and leave vodka to the Slavs.

    Ok, i rarely drink the stuff … but how can anyone be snooty about vodka?

    Seriously you’re fermenting and distilling potatoes (or even simpler starches\sugars). It’s water and alcohol.

    It’s not like a whiskey where at least the blend of grains and the aging leave you with a bunch of different interesting flavors. (I had a nice Scotch Saturday at a party my wife’s cousin was giving for Indian independence day and their personal independence day of launching their last kid to college. Hadn’t had it–even heard of it–before, thought “this is pretty good”.)

    Don’t know why anyone would spend an extra dollar for so-and-so’s vodka. To me the label just gives you piece of mind that it isn’t joe bob’s clear moonshine, and you won’t go blind. Buy what’s cheap.

    (Now if Costco would just put out samples … i’d go taste test to verify my assertion.)

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    "It’s not like a whiskey where at least the blend of grains and the aging leave you with a bunch of different interesting flavors."

    With whisky you pay extra for the flavor of those complex organic molecules. With vodka, you pay extra for the lack of flavor.
  121. @AnotherDad

    No person with any knowledge about the right way to drink ever has a martini after dinner.
     
    There's a "right way" to drink? Who knew!

    Pre-food drinks are supposed to be dry, and stimulate the appetite. Post-food drinks are meant to aid digestion, go with dessert, go with coffee, or with tobacco, and get you crocked before bedtime.

    Martinis are usually dry, so by definition they are pre-food. After dinner I would expect the POTUS to be drinking brandy, cognac, or single malt. Here’s the lowdown.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Or a nice tawny port.
  122. There should be no shortage of donors, Obama has done yeoman work for Wall Street.

    We are now totally dominated by the trading and rent-seeking class and caste. Unfortunately even the Republicans, whose center of gravity used to be midwestern industrialists who actually made stuff for a living … now have a parasitic “establishment”.

    But even with that, i gotta think McCain would have felt compelled to do some sort of reformist this or that after the finance clowns trashed the joint–again–with the biggest bubble\pop since ’29. (And in fairness, the Great Depression had the full industrial boom, inventory backup driving it; 2008 was all finance–speculative housing bubble.)

    Obama–not a peep. Finance is fine. We just need to hunt down those evil white wreckers!

    But … he needs to pass the collection plate *now*. No one likes this guy and he’s going to make the fastest drop from powerful to non-entity in the history of politics. (Even plenty of guys who exited the stage dead, kept more relevance clout than Obama will have.)

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Obama–not a peep. Finance is fine. We just need to hunt down those evil white wreckers!

    It's too late to do anything about the economy. The fuse was lit decades ago. It's only a question of when it collapses completely. There were no investigations after the 2008 crisis because those in charge fear the system is too precarious to survive close inspection.

    In an appearance before a congressional committee in March 2013, Eric Holder had this to say about why no one was prosecuted after the 2008 meltdown: "I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if we do prosecute — if we do bring a criminal charge — it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy."

    A rare instance in which Holder blurted out the truth. He later walked it back.

    Someone at this site recommended the series of "Peak Prosperity" podcasts available on YouTube. I listened to it and it dispelled any lingering optimism I may have had.

  123. @AnotherDad
    There should be no shortage of donors, Obama has done yeoman work for Wall Street.

    We are now totally dominated by the trading and rent-seeking class and caste. Unfortunately even the Republicans, whose center of gravity used to be midwestern industrialists who actually made stuff for a living ... now have a parasitic "establishment".

    But even with that, i gotta think McCain would have felt compelled to do some sort of reformist this or that after the finance clowns trashed the joint--again--with the biggest bubble\pop since '29. (And in fairness, the Great Depression had the full industrial boom, inventory backup driving it; 2008 was all finance--speculative housing bubble.)

    Obama--not a peep. Finance is fine. We just need to hunt down those evil white wreckers!

    But ... he needs to pass the collection plate *now*. No one likes this guy and he's going to make the fastest drop from powerful to non-entity in the history of politics. (Even plenty of guys who exited the stage dead, kept more relevance clout than Obama will have.)

    Obama–not a peep. Finance is fine. We just need to hunt down those evil white wreckers!

    It’s too late to do anything about the economy. The fuse was lit decades ago. It’s only a question of when it collapses completely. There were no investigations after the 2008 crisis because those in charge fear the system is too precarious to survive close inspection.

    In an appearance before a congressional committee in March 2013, Eric Holder had this to say about why no one was prosecuted after the 2008 meltdown: “I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if we do prosecute — if we do bring a criminal charge — it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy.”

    A rare instance in which Holder blurted out the truth. He later walked it back.

    Someone at this site recommended the series of “Peak Prosperity” podcasts available on YouTube. I listened to it and it dispelled any lingering optimism I may have had.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "In an appearance before a congressional committee in March 2013, Eric Holder had this to say about why no one was prosecuted after the 2008 meltdown: “I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if we do prosecute — if we do bring a criminal charge — it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy.”

    A rare instance in which Holder blurted out the truth. He later walked it back."

    Another reason why Holder's Justice Department did not prosecute the Masters of the Universe is that he did not want it to. Holder has since gone back to his old law firm which represents Wall Street Firms. They kept an office waiting for him while he was gone.
  124. @AnotherDad
    Ok, i rarely drink the stuff ... but how can anyone be snooty about vodka?

    Seriously you're fermenting and distilling potatoes (or even simpler starches\sugars). It's water and alcohol.

    It's not like a whiskey where at least the blend of grains and the aging leave you with a bunch of different interesting flavors. (I had a nice Scotch Saturday at a party my wife's cousin was giving for Indian independence day and their personal independence day of launching their last kid to college. Hadn't had it--even heard of it--before, thought "this is pretty good".)

    Don't know why anyone would spend an extra dollar for so-and-so's vodka. To me the label just gives you piece of mind that it isn't joe bob's clear moonshine, and you won't go blind. Buy what's cheap.

    (Now if Costco would just put out samples ... i'd go taste test to verify my assertion.)

    “It’s not like a whiskey where at least the blend of grains and the aging leave you with a bunch of different interesting flavors.”

    With whisky you pay extra for the flavor of those complex organic molecules. With vodka, you pay extra for the lack of flavor.

  125. @Mr. Anon
    "I was deeply amused to learn that cognac was a stereotypical hip-hop liquor. I’d always assumed to was a fusty old WASP drink, but it turns out I was accidentally vibrant."

    I always associated cognac with Europe (the Continent, not Britain) - it is after all a french liquor. It only became vibrant over the last ten or fifteen years, when the gansta-rappers developed a taste for it. Hennesy even created a cognac specifically for the black market: Hennessy Black.

    To my taste, Martel is the best cognac. I find it to be smoother than either Courvoisier, Remy, or Hennessy.

    Re: Cognac
    Je suis Charles Martel!

  126. @Anonymous
    Louis Roederer Cristal champagne has been around for a lot longer than hip-hop, as has cognac. I've heard that the people who manage the House of Roederer are none too thrilled about the brand's association with the gold teeth set.

    GM was glad for the sales boost at Cadillac from all the Escalade fans, as all that windfall cash helped them stave off BK slightly. Recall that the brand sucked wind and the clientele were dying off, prior to the Led Zeppelin music commercials for the new Cadillac.

  127. @Wilkey
    Obama should put his money where his mouth is and make his post-presidential home in Detroit, or Atlanta, or Memphis, or Haiti.

    Everything he says now about where he'll live after leaving office is still just political nonsense. He'll follow the trend of the increasing disconnect our "elites" have for the citizens and, like so many ex-congressmen who hang around in D.C. or New York, not move back to where he got his start. He'll most likely move to New York. Staying in D.C. is second most likely, and going back to Chicago is a distant third.

    “He’ll most likely move to New York.”

    Hussein Obama will most likely choose one of the least Black neighborhoods in New York City to live in, like Tribeca for example where only 2 percent of the population is Black.
    http://www.areavibes.com/new+york-ny/tribeca/demographics/

    Jay-Z and Beyonce live in Tribeca. They are also big financial donors to Black Lives Matter, but they just don’t want to have too many Black lives as their neighbors even though they are Black themselves. They could have chosen PG County, Maryland or Baldwin Hills, California to live in to be surrounded by other affluent Blacks, but they chose lily White Tribeca.

    Jay-Z and Beyonce’s next door neighbor is De Niro and not DeShawnte.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Well iirc, Barack Hussein's former spiritual mentor Rev. Jeremiah Wright built his new McMansion in a neighborhood without many Black Bodies.
  128. How would it look after Jimmy Carter had spent his post-presidency building houses for black people until he was wracked with cancer at 90, while Obama split his time between six figure speeches and golf?

    Honestly, not to cut Obama any slack, but it’s amazing that Carter wasn’t stricken with cancer until he was 90, after seeing his siblings cut down so relatively young with pancreatic cancer. For all we know his humanitarian work helped hold off the cancer for years. Probably wouldn’t work for a different personality like Obama’s. To each their own.

    Actually, aflatoxin contamination of peanuts is implicated in liver cancer. Still, pretty impressive for a peanut farmer with a family history of cancer to make it ’til 90.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/health/jimmy-carter-family-history-of-cancer/

    One look at President Jimmy Carter's family history, and you have to wonder whether he and his relatives live in fear.

    His brother, father and two sisters all died from pancreatic cancer. His mother had breast cancer that later moved to her pancreas, and now Carter, 90, has been diagnosed with cancer. He has not yet revealed what kind.
     
    , @MEH 0910
    Huh, turns out that Jimmy Carter has melanoma that spread to his liver and brain. Maybe he did spend too much time out in the sun building houses for black people.
  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    If Obama’s foundation really wants to rile up blacks halfway around the world, it should go all-in:

    Ideally, one adviser said, a person in Kenya could put on a pair of virtual reality goggles and be transported to Bull Connor’s Birmingham, where he would endure virtual fire hose blasts and dog attacks.

  130. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    If Obama’s foundation really wants to rile up blacks halfway around the world, it should go all-in:

    Ideally, one adviser said, a person in Kenya could put on a pair of virtual reality goggles and be transported to Bull Connor’s Birmingham, where he would endure virtual fire hose blasts and dog attacks.

  131. @Brutusale
    Armagnac. Very good stuff can be had for less than $25.

    Yes, good suggestion. I’ll give it a try sometime.

  132. @MEH 0910

    How would it look after Jimmy Carter had spent his post-presidency building houses for black people until he was wracked with cancer at 90, while Obama split his time between six figure speeches and golf?
     
    Honestly, not to cut Obama any slack, but it's amazing that Carter wasn't stricken with cancer until he was 90, after seeing his siblings cut down so relatively young with pancreatic cancer. For all we know his humanitarian work helped hold off the cancer for years. Probably wouldn't work for a different personality like Obama's. To each their own.

    Actually, aflatoxin contamination of peanuts is implicated in liver cancer. Still, pretty impressive for a peanut farmer with a family history of cancer to make it 'til 90.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/health/jimmy-carter-family-history-of-cancer/

    One look at President Jimmy Carter’s family history, and you have to wonder whether he and his relatives live in fear.

    His brother, father and two sisters all died from pancreatic cancer. His mother had breast cancer that later moved to her pancreas, and now Carter, 90, has been diagnosed with cancer. He has not yet revealed what kind.

  133. @Harry Baldwin
    Obama–not a peep. Finance is fine. We just need to hunt down those evil white wreckers!

    It's too late to do anything about the economy. The fuse was lit decades ago. It's only a question of when it collapses completely. There were no investigations after the 2008 crisis because those in charge fear the system is too precarious to survive close inspection.

    In an appearance before a congressional committee in March 2013, Eric Holder had this to say about why no one was prosecuted after the 2008 meltdown: "I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if we do prosecute — if we do bring a criminal charge — it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy."

    A rare instance in which Holder blurted out the truth. He later walked it back.

    Someone at this site recommended the series of "Peak Prosperity" podcasts available on YouTube. I listened to it and it dispelled any lingering optimism I may have had.

    “In an appearance before a congressional committee in March 2013, Eric Holder had this to say about why no one was prosecuted after the 2008 meltdown: “I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if we do prosecute — if we do bring a criminal charge — it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy.”

    A rare instance in which Holder blurted out the truth. He later walked it back.”

    Another reason why Holder’s Justice Department did not prosecute the Masters of the Universe is that he did not want it to. Holder has since gone back to his old law firm which represents Wall Street Firms. They kept an office waiting for him while he was gone.

  134. “How would it look after Jimmy Carter had spent his post-presidency building houses for black people until he was wracked with cancer at 90, while Obama split his time between six figure speeches and golf?”

    Hussein Obama is too uppity white collar bourgeois to get his hands dirty and do blue collar work like build houses for his poor Black urban inner city Brothas and Sistas. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s character in Predator would say Hussein Obama prefers pushing pencils, not bricks.

  135. Steve,
    Chicago theme that is slightly OT, and could also fit tangentially into the Money thread.

    http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-advocate/2015/08/the-30-most-beautiful-chicago-streets/

  136. @SPMoore8
    Pre-food drinks are supposed to be dry, and stimulate the appetite. Post-food drinks are meant to aid digestion, go with dessert, go with coffee, or with tobacco, and get you crocked before bedtime.

    Martinis are usually dry, so by definition they are pre-food. After dinner I would expect the POTUS to be drinking brandy, cognac, or single malt. Here's the lowdown.

    Or a nice tawny port.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  137. @Jefferson
    "He’ll most likely move to New York."

    Hussein Obama will most likely choose one of the least Black neighborhoods in New York City to live in, like Tribeca for example where only 2 percent of the population is Black.
    http://www.areavibes.com/new+york-ny/tribeca/demographics/

    Jay-Z and Beyonce live in Tribeca. They are also big financial donors to Black Lives Matter, but they just don't want to have too many Black lives as their neighbors even though they are Black themselves. They could have chosen PG County, Maryland or Baldwin Hills, California to live in to be surrounded by other affluent Blacks, but they chose lily White Tribeca.

    Jay-Z and Beyonce's next door neighbor is De Niro and not DeShawnte.

    Well iirc, Barack Hussein’s former spiritual mentor Rev. Jeremiah Wright built his new McMansion in a neighborhood without many Black Bodies.

  138. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Former Darfur
    So people will raise more money for a guy when he’s leaving the presidency than when he’s campaigning for it? This makes me wonder whether the traditional concerns about campaign finance are just a misdirection.

    The defense industry figured out "ex post facto bribery" a long time ago, I'm sure that at heart it is a Levantine/Byzantine concept. The holluschickie are smart enough to understand bribery up front, and be suitably outraged, but bribery in back, that only the best grifters quite comprehend, so it goes unabated.

    The Clintons being paid insane sums for speeches no one paying them for even have the least interest in hearing is the most famous example. They are being paid not for what is expected of them in the future, and not even so much for what they themselves actually did, but for what others are expected to see and emulate in the future.

    For the last six decades, American military contractors have hired retired American officers for what amount to no-show jobs at munificent rates of pay by the thousands. They all are men-I suppose as time marches on a few women now as well-who held positions where they made decisions that affected the profitability of military contractors. They rallied for or against such a system, for or against a certain course of action, a certain requirement, a certain bidding process. Often, it was never anything that affected that particular company that much, or at all. There was never a quid pro quo stated or hinted at, on an individual level. Not even the most zealous prosecutor could find a whiff of it, because it really wasn't there. Indeed, the officer may well have never had any dealings in the least with that particular company.

    However, you can bet that officer was not a troublemaker, a shit disturber, a whistleblower. He mostly went along to go along. He championed no innovative concepts unless someone stood to make a lot of money off them, and who that someone was doesn't all that much matter, so long as they were some established player. Usually, he was just a regular Joe.

    Had he supported an unpopular program-unpopular as in not a big moneymaker for someone-or had he dimed out some dodgy contracting or worked to not adopt some plum program, of course, his post-retirement resumes would have been for nought. Even if he really could do needed work for some large or midsize contractor, no one would have been interested in him. He'd have cooties. Remember the guy who blew the whistle on Thiokol? He got a big award, but he never worked again. It wasn't because Thiokol was all that personally vindictive, it wasn't even their competitors couldn't have enjoyed seeing it. It was because the aerospace contractors had to maintain the line. Go along and you have a very pleasant retirement, fight us, bite the hand that feeds you, you will be living on your pension and nothing more. Not only that, you won't get invited for golf, for lunches, for company events, nothing.

    So most officers go along to get along thinking that if they do, they will have several cushy years with a big contractor and probably put away a couple of million dollars doing it if they live off their pension and invest the company check. Plus they'll get invited to golf with astronauts and Vietnam aces and the current VIPs, they will get escorted plant tours and a chance to sit in the cockpit of a Raptor with the displays powered up, hang out with other retirees and live a few years of the life of Riley.

    My father could have done that. He didn't. He fought what he thought was a huge boondoggle (it was) and when he retired the only aviation jobs that expressed the least interest in him were ones that had nothing to do whatsoever with anything he actually knew. He wound up teaching people to fly aerobatics (at twenty bucks per flight hour) until he lost his medical. He regretted it only because of me and my sister, who were his second set of kids. Had he went along, we could have lived in a million dollar house in San Diego instead of a condo in working-middle class Indiana.

    A lot of fighter jocks have immense physical courage. My father said that very few of them had any moral courage in the least, and I think he was right. But he did. I resented our plebian surroundings at the time, but I'm damn proud of him now knowing what he did: his duty as he saw it.

    Politicians, generally, have neither physical nor moral courage, and the sums involved a re a lot bigger, so one has to assume the principle is the same but the rewards bigger.

    but bribery in back, that only the best grifters quite comprehend, so it goes unabated.

    These are all men, and now women, of honor. They keep their word, they’ve been to the good schools, live in the good areas and hobnob with the better sorts. An honest politician is one who, once bought, stays bought. Those giving the rewards can be relied upon to follow through; their word is as good as gold. This is the upper crust, our leading citizens.

  139. @Jefferson
    Glenn Beck makes a list of the top 15 U.S cities that he believes are the worst places to live. He ranks Portland at number 1 and Detroit at number 8.
    http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_28647039/glenn-beck-names-15-cities-that-you-dont?source=infinite

    I guess he sees urban inner city thug culture as the lesser of two evils compared to SWPL hipster culture.

    It is interesting that Glenn Beck does not use high crime rate as a criteria for whether or not an American city is considered a bad place to live. Hence why cities like Baltimore and Birmingham for example, did not make his list.

    Apparently Glenn Beck would feel more comfortable sending his kids to a public school in Baltimore than one in Portland.

    Only a politically correct Cuckservative like Glenn Beck would name the Whitest U.S city with a population of over 500,000 people as the worst big city in America to live in.

    This is the same Cuckservative that starts crying every time he starts talking about Martin Luther King, even though he was a Communist.

    Portland is anti-child and anti-married people. You can support those things without wanting to live in Detroit.

  140. Is there any reason to think Barack Obama will do anything except write more books about being Barack Obama?

  141. @Steve Sailer
    Are you supposed to drink martinis after dinner?

    Not if you aren’t an alcoholic.

    Speaking of which, have you heard any interesting tidbits about Hillary’s drinking habits lately?

  142. @MEH 0910

    How would it look after Jimmy Carter had spent his post-presidency building houses for black people until he was wracked with cancer at 90, while Obama split his time between six figure speeches and golf?
     
    Honestly, not to cut Obama any slack, but it's amazing that Carter wasn't stricken with cancer until he was 90, after seeing his siblings cut down so relatively young with pancreatic cancer. For all we know his humanitarian work helped hold off the cancer for years. Probably wouldn't work for a different personality like Obama's. To each their own.

    Actually, aflatoxin contamination of peanuts is implicated in liver cancer. Still, pretty impressive for a peanut farmer with a family history of cancer to make it 'til 90.

    Huh, turns out that Jimmy Carter has melanoma that spread to his liver and brain. Maybe he did spend too much time out in the sun building houses for black people.

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