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From The Africa Report:

Bravo, Macron: How Lagos fell for the French President
By Nicholas Norbrook in Lagos

Posted on Friday, 06 July 2018 08:47

…But beyond the Silicon Valley-style pep talk, there were other messages Macron was keen to give. On migration, he repeatedly emphasized the importance of rekindling hope and opportunity in Africa. The tragedy, he pointed out, was that it was not the poorest Africans who are migrating, but those from the middle class, with the money to finance the trip. “These are the people who you want to drive politics in your country”, said Macron.

“We have to deal with demography. When I spoke about it last year, people went crazy. It was not for a European to talk about it, though we had the same thing a hundred years ago in Europe”, said Macron. “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”

 
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  1. What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I've always wondered about that, but I think Steve explained once that many of his posts tend to be topical or on a recently published article or piece that can't be put off too much before becoming old news.
    , @Anonym
    I think this is on topic.

    Breitbart just name dropped Steve 3 timed in the one article. Welcome Breitbart readers! Steve is laying out the welcome mat with a bunch of posts, but sometimes he just does that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/07/12/progressives-sneer-as-soccer-becomes-a-world-festival-of-nationalism/

    , @m___
    Let the man (Sailer) be! He is harvesting ideas, to be recycled in future articles. The commenters are doing his bidding, thus allowing his attempt at AI. Sailer is brighter then average, and in 2018, that is what Sailers do.

    It is about who gets to sell, what others provide. Regular middle class capitalism, mine what is public and sell the frozen and stamped, idiot proof package for a price.

    Sailer deserves to be at the peak of technology, he seems to understand the mechanics. He is right there with Fecesbook and Goooogle. It speaks to his advantage he understood the formula and the format.

    Linear stories are dead, associative thinking is norm. Now quality can be applied to the latter, so Sailer is inventive, ingenious, daring, and if he sticks to launching the right questions, mass readers will wind up with the least obnoxious fodder. Reed and Gait are old-school, completely "depasse", Steve is there with the Zuckenburgers and Smiths of our age.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    He seems to dump bunches of posts when we commenters have pontificated so much on the last batch that we have begun to look stupid and verbose. He's like a teacher moving the class along when discussion time is over.

    BTW on topic, don't you love this quote from Macron:


    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    It's as if he's saying, "if your women want to flood the world with black babies, that's okay, go ahead." Sheesh!
    , @Almost Missouri
    Might have something ot do with yesterday's DDOS attack on Unz.com. Posts meant for yesterday were delayed until today.
    , @AndrewR
    Sailer must be in a manic phase today, perhaps aided by some handy stimulants, not necessarily of lawful status.
    , @anon
    Sailer's posts are sometimes like brain farts. Every time he has a brain fart, we see a new post.
  2. That is 9 posts in one day. Please slow down.

    • Disagree: TheBoom
  3. Macron’s been better than expected. If there’s any way Trump can nudge him into a leadership position in Europe rather than Merkel, he should.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Germany naturally dominates Europe and will for the foreseeable future. The best thing for Europe is to make Germany's interests coincide as much as possible with the interests of Europe as a whole, to the extent such interests even exist. At best, France can only be the first mate on the ship that is Europe.
    , @Beckow
    Macron is a talker. That's all he does and will ever do. His latest 'courageous' talk in Nigeria is even less than that - it only opens up space for the usual liberal onslaught.

    Macron also misses the point: it is not the poverty or the fecundity in Africa that drives the migrants, it is the largely open doors to EU to get something for nothing. Macron's talk was a distraction. It is much simpler: outsiders cannot have a 'right' to your house, it doesn't matter where they came from and how many of them there are. This is post-menopausal charity out of control and the solution is in Europe, not in Nigeria. And for that Macron lacks cojones, so he will just stall and distract.
  4. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @The preferred nomenclature is...
    What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    I’ve always wondered about that, but I think Steve explained once that many of his posts tend to be topical or on a recently published article or piece that can’t be put off too much before becoming old news.

  5. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Macron Tells Africans to Cut Their Birthrate

    Africans Tell Macron to Make Room for a Billion or Two Africans.

  6. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”

    Lol. No. It’s not ok, whatever the women might think about it.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Also,

    "The tragedy, he pointed out, was that it was not the poorest Africans who are migrating, but those from the middle class, with the money to finance the trip."
     
    So if even poorer Africans were filling up Europe, he would be cool with that.
    , @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    Their women probably are not fine with birthing and raising ten children in ten years, so in practical terms Macron's appeal is an appeal would drop the birth rate if it were followed.
    , @Mr. Rational

    It’s not ok, whatever the women might think about it.
     
    Aren't the women in Niger wanting 8-9 children apiece?  In a country which cannot feed the numbers it has?

    They are incontrovertibly NOT smarter than yeast.
  7. “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Intelligent Dasein wrote:

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.
     
    Then a tragedy greater than any in recent human hisotry is going to hit Africa during this century.

    No one thinks Africa can sustain the projected population at the end of the century. If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living... well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.

    Unless something changes.

    I'm an optimist -- I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.
    , @AndrewR
    If you think there is no middle ground between childlessness and 7-8 children/woman (with a survival rate far higher than our ancestors 200 years ago), then you should find a new username.
    , @Daniel Williams

    Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans.
     
    Africa is not the United States or Europe. Macron isn't telling healthy twenty-year-olds not to have any children, he's telling people who already have four kids that they shouldn't have any more. This is sensible advice that Africans need to hear, since they can barely feed and house themselves at their current number.

    Someone with, say, three children and more money than his neighbor is obviously neither childless nor a loser. He hasn't "given up his fertility", he's attenuated it based on population pressure, a trait that makes us humans different from whitetail deer and lemmings.

    , @Alec Leamas


    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”

     

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

     

    I'm not certain that there is virtue in having children that neither the parents nor the greater society can feed. African nations are not in peril of becoming underpopulated and rife with catladies and incels.
  8. In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    You don’t suppose supplying Lagos residents with TV sets and transmitting Sex In The City episodes will do the trick, do you? Just thought it might be worth a shot.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Lowe
    For maximum effect you'd produce a show with black actors and actresses, similar to Sex In The City. Based in Lagos, or some other African metropolis.

    Some might donate money to do this.
  9. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    I think this is on topic.

    Breitbart just name dropped Steve 3 timed in the one article. Welcome Breitbart readers! Steve is laying out the welcome mat with a bunch of posts, but sometimes he just does that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/07/12/progressives-sneer-as-soccer-becomes-a-world-festival-of-nationalism/

  10. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Yeah right.

    That stupid, vain, arrogant globalist tosser Macron was the same bastard who made a great big point of virtue signalling the Italian decision to deter invader boats.

    As fully-paid up Economist man, Macron no doubt secretly believes that mass immigration can only ‘benefit’ Europe.

  11. “Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”

    That’s virtue-signaling for home consumption.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  12. eah says:

    Macron is a typical European manlet politician — you find them all over the continent (Horst Seehofer is another) — whenever he says anything the least bit politically incorrect it makes the news — otherwise it’s business as usual.

    After Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini refused to accept the NGO vessel packed with shipwrecked immigrants, Macron said that Italy was “playing politics” with the migrants, and that the Italian government had displayed “cynicism and irresponsibility.”

    “shipwrecked”

    • Replies: @eah
    Watch this video of that disgraceful drunkard Jean-Claude Juncker -- this is EU "leadership" -- no wonder people want out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oecvYFq_wi0
    , @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    Macron said that Italy was “playing politics” with the migrants, and that the Italian government had displayed “cynicism and irresponsibility.
     
    Holy psychological projection, Monsieur Macron!
  13. Unrelated but of interest:

    https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/49/r-i-p-liberal-contrarianism/

    I enjoyed it, but not in the way that the author intended.

    Steve, I don’t like to clog up your comment threads like this, could you have an open thread or somewhere to send stuff you would find interesting ?

  14. Macron telling Africans to ask their women? ahahah this is moronic beyond belief. Macron is a PR man trying to look tough. All hat no cattle. Any moron could fall for it, but how could the man who notices?

    What’s gonna be next then? Macron tells Africans to please stop having so many kids? to please stop risking their lives and reconsider a the prospect of a life in an African shithole without welfare and better paid jobs?

    Are you on holidays Steve? Was that your intern shitposting?

    Can’t believe Sailer’s capable of such idiotic shitposting.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Can’t believe Sailer’s capable of such idiotic shitposting.
     
    Let me set you straight on how this works, Bierstiefel: The stuff in gray boxes in not Mr. Sailer's writing, just as the sentence I put in blockquotes (thanks, Ron Unz, for use of this tag) above is not mine but yours.

    If it's your opnion that Macron does not deserve praise here, that's another story. I kind of agree, but Steve did not praise anything, but just pointed out that Macron mentioned something that indicated he understand the "world's most important graph" (Steve's term - I think there are graphs of financial matters that could be right up there.)
    , @anon
    At least he actually dares say something, unlike all other European leaders who are too afraid to even comment on this. I've always admired the French for their take-no-prisoner attitude towards assimilation, banning the burqa long before it was considered a women's right, insisting on all newcomers learning French, banning burqini etc, as opposed to the yellow belly Brits who just encourage multiculturalism instead.
  15. Remi Adekoya with a perfectly sensible and clear-eyed take on this.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/10/only-religion-can-defuse-nigerias-demographic-time-bomb/

    • Replies: @Lowe
    Good article. Thanks for the link.
    , @Big Bill
    Let me translate that article for you:

    "Hi! I'm Remi Adekoya. You know me. I'm the Nigerian who managed to escape that sh*t hole and run off to live with the white folks in Poland. And, boy, it has worked out great for me! I married a white girl, made some babies, and got a job as the Foreign Policy editor of the Warsaw Business Journal! Great job. I got my own apartment and car. Hot and cold running water. Great medical and retirement benefits. Heck, I LOVE it here.""

    "But enough about me. Lets talk about you. What you need to do is stay there in Nigeria and make fewer babies. Really. It's the only way to have a better life."
  16. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    Let the man (Sailer) be! He is harvesting ideas, to be recycled in future articles. The commenters are doing his bidding, thus allowing his attempt at AI. Sailer is brighter then average, and in 2018, that is what Sailers do.

    It is about who gets to sell, what others provide. Regular middle class capitalism, mine what is public and sell the frozen and stamped, idiot proof package for a price.

    Sailer deserves to be at the peak of technology, he seems to understand the mechanics. He is right there with Fecesbook and Goooogle. It speaks to his advantage he understood the formula and the format.

    Linear stories are dead, associative thinking is norm. Now quality can be applied to the latter, so Sailer is inventive, ingenious, daring, and if he sticks to launching the right questions, mass readers will wind up with the least obnoxious fodder. Reed and Gait are old-school, completely “depasse”, Steve is there with the Zuckenburgers and Smiths of our age.

  17. @Intelligent Dasein

    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    Intelligent Dasein wrote:

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    Then a tragedy greater than any in recent human hisotry is going to hit Africa during this century.

    No one thinks Africa can sustain the projected population at the end of the century. If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living… well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.

    Unless something changes.

    I’m an optimist — I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    No one thinks Africa can sustain the projected population at the end of the century.
     
    Have you not heard? The Open Borders Advocates are claiming we've tons of room in America.

    You know, out west somewhere.
    , @Samuel Skinner

    If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living… well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.
     
    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they outcompete you.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.
     
    They aren't pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.

    I’m an optimist — I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.
     
    Africa is only able to feed itself now because of foreign food and technology. Given the trend in the western world (downwards towards total disintegration) it is doubtful they will be able to feed their current population, much less any increase.
    , @27 year old
    Womp womp
  18. Demography (Macron, president of EU-France)

    Might be the first thing he said that makes sense. Herding and quantitative dynamics and vertical appreciation of global populations, re-questioning density of populations, is the evident center of survival, of the system (global and per territory alike), and in the end survival of the humanoid.

    Capitalism (without distinction, Russia and China included), and it’s quantitative approach (unending growth, “financial (Ponzy scheme)” capitalism, not taking the assets minus liabilities approach as to quantifying “riches” is dead meat. Re-cranking the engine, and all other flavors of tweaks, is short term and debilitating.

    What we need is a qualitative economy. That is, the sociology of the consumer versus the consumable. It helps that at the top of decision making some ape the idea, so apparent for over two hundred years now, so human nature can be converted into human attitudes and taking responsibility.

    Let’s hope, “le gentil” understand fully what his advisers are whispering into his ear. The way of the Pope. Thinking is an act of cowardice if not followed by adhering to the consequential behavior. Not much hope there.

  19. Yeah, blacks are known for taking good advice and well.

    Europeans have become a race of inane Moomins.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomins

    Moomins see blacks as Babars but it’s not so.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babar_the_Elephant

  20. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Intelligent Dasein wrote:

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.
     
    Then a tragedy greater than any in recent human hisotry is going to hit Africa during this century.

    No one thinks Africa can sustain the projected population at the end of the century. If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living... well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.

    Unless something changes.

    I'm an optimist -- I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.

    No one thinks Africa can sustain the projected population at the end of the century.

    Have you not heard? The Open Borders Advocates are claiming we’ve tons of room in America.

    You know, out west somewhere.

  21. When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine.

    You might want to ask the children too, they might have a different response.

  22. @PhysicistDave
    Intelligent Dasein wrote:

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.
     
    Then a tragedy greater than any in recent human hisotry is going to hit Africa during this century.

    No one thinks Africa can sustain the projected population at the end of the century. If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living... well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.

    Unless something changes.

    I'm an optimist -- I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.

    If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living… well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.

    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they outcompete you.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.

    They aren’t pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.

    I’m an optimist — I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.

    Africa is only able to feed itself now because of foreign food and technology. Given the trend in the western world (downwards towards total disintegration) it is doubtful they will be able to feed their current population, much less any increase.

    • Replies: @Lowe
    Tyrion 2 linked to an article by a Nigerian, Remi Adekoya, apparently living in Poland. He agrees a crisis is coming, based on the still growing population and the GDP shrinking (in real terms).

    He also describes some Nigerians as seeing their growing population as a strength, and being distrustful of whites telling them otherwise. This suggests they understand that they stand to outcompete others evolutionarily.

    Economically this is wrong though. I am certain Nigerians have no industrial capacity for ships or planes. If Western powers pull up roots from Nigeria, the only people they'll be outcompeting are each other, and their neighbors, in a desperate struggle not to starve.
    , @bomag

    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they outcompete you.
     
    On the ground, the lower 80% of the population has access to 20% of the resources.

    Whatever is available to mankind, Africans are pretty much going to be dividing 20% of that total amongst themselves. They would do well to consider how much each person will be getting and breed accordingly.


    [Hundreds of millions of lives that come and go gives Evolution the variation it requires] in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.
     
    There's more to be said here. Nature is pretty good at selecting for survival, but when selecting for more than just survival, more bodies can get in the way.
    , @PhysicistDave
    Samuel Skinner wrote to me:

    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they [sub-Saharan Africans] outcompete you.
     
    No, in the not-very-long run at all, they are going to die for no good purpose in very large numbers.

    Sam also wrote:

    They [mass deaths of sub-Saharan Africans] aren’t pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.
     
    This does not have to happen. We humans are smart. We can understand how this works. We are not some slgae bloom in the ocean that is doomed to die out and lacks the intelligence to know it is doomed to die out.

    It is in the interest both of the West and of Africans themselves to avoid this sort of horrific tragedy. We had better hope that it will be avoided.

    Maybe it will occur despite our best efforts. But the least Westerners can do is to tell the truth about this and hope that some Africans are listening.

    Remember: if this tragedy occurs, it will be horrific for Africa but pretty bad for us too -- for example, monster waves of desperate migrants, many carrying very nasty epidemic diseases.

    No: this is not just evolution in action. This will be a disaster for the human race. Unless it can be avoided.

    The Left wails about climate change, but climate change, even if the worst extrapolations are true, will be a day at the beach compared to what could happen to Africa.
  23. @PhysicistDave
    Intelligent Dasein wrote:

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.
     
    Then a tragedy greater than any in recent human hisotry is going to hit Africa during this century.

    No one thinks Africa can sustain the projected population at the end of the century. If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living... well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.

    Unless something changes.

    I'm an optimist -- I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.

    Womp womp

  24. @eah
    Macron is a typical European manlet politician -- you find them all over the continent (Horst Seehofer is another) -- whenever he says anything the least bit politically incorrect it makes the news -- otherwise it's business as usual.

    After Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini refused to accept the NGO vessel packed with shipwrecked immigrants, Macron said that Italy was "playing politics" with the migrants, and that the Italian government had displayed "cynicism and irresponsibility."

    "shipwrecked"

    Watch this video of that disgraceful drunkard Jean-Claude Juncker — this is EU “leadership” — no wonder people want out.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    That's hilarious.

    My wife kept making fun of Melania Trump tiptoeing on the various stages, entryways and stairs in her seventeen-inch heels (which do it for me!) but this guy is freaking funny. Those "leaders" live a great life there and do not serve the European people at all.
  25. Macron better be careful or he’ll find himself on the SPLC’s “hater and extremist” list. France should impose a one child policy on Africans and Muslims if they don’t have the will to deport them and deny those two groups the demographic warfare element that they’re waging on the French and all Europeans.

  26. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    He seems to dump bunches of posts when we commenters have pontificated so much on the last batch that we have begun to look stupid and verbose. He’s like a teacher moving the class along when discussion time is over.

    BTW on topic, don’t you love this quote from Macron:

    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”

    It’s as if he’s saying, “if your women want to flood the world with black babies, that’s okay, go ahead.” Sheesh!

  27. Hail says: • Website

    We have to deal with demography…

    [Superimposed over imagery from Camp of the Saints]

    Jean Raspail [b. 1925], writing in Le Figaro conservative newspaper in 2004:

    [Later in this century,] France will no longer be peopled…except by hermit crabs who will live in shells left behind by the representatives of a species gone forever, which was called the French species…[the New Frenchman,] by one does not know which genetic metamorphosis, [by] the second half of this century…will have been clothed with this name. This process has already started.

    Raspail, in the same essay, on the destructive politics of the French since 1789:

    [T]hey confuse France with the Republic. “Republican values” have deteriorated ad infinitum…France is from the outset a country of [common] blood. On the other hand, the Republic, which is only one shape of government, is synonymous for them with ideology, ideology with a capital “I”, the major ideology. It seems to me, to some extent, that they betray the first for the second.

    From the essay The Fatherland Betrayed by The Republic by Jean Raspail.

    So “deal with demography,” yes, but Raspail calls, in verbose and safely intellectual-sounding language, to strike root: Ideology. In France’s case, this is harder than most because French national pride is so closely tied to the destructiveness of far-left (now-ethnomasochist) ideology.

  28. @Bierstiefel
    Macron telling Africans to ask their women? ahahah this is moronic beyond belief. Macron is a PR man trying to look tough. All hat no cattle. Any moron could fall for it, but how could the man who notices?

    What's gonna be next then? Macron tells Africans to please stop having so many kids? to please stop risking their lives and reconsider a the prospect of a life in an African shithole without welfare and better paid jobs?

    Are you on holidays Steve? Was that your intern shitposting?

    Can't believe Sailer's capable of such idiotic shitposting.

    Can’t believe Sailer’s capable of such idiotic shitposting.

    Let me set you straight on how this works, Bierstiefel: The stuff in gray boxes in not Mr. Sailer’s writing, just as the sentence I put in blockquotes (thanks, Ron Unz, for use of this tag) above is not mine but yours.

    If it’s your opnion that Macron does not deserve praise here, that’s another story. I kind of agree, but Steve did not praise anything, but just pointed out that Macron mentioned something that indicated he understand the “world’s most important graph” (Steve’s term – I think there are graphs of financial matters that could be right up there.)

    • Replies: @Anon

    I think there are graphs of financial matters that could be right up there.
     
    Such as what?
  29. AGREED! (with you and L. Woods here)

    That sounds a lot like what one hears from these NGO-types – “we are going to empower the women – they know what’s going on.” Yeah, in some of those countries the women do do most of the work, but they are on the same level of stupid as the men are, so no, let’s not. America has “empowered” women for 5 decades now (some would say 10) and it’s been a freaking disaster.

  30. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    Might have something ot do with yesterday’s DDOS attack on Unz.com. Posts meant for yesterday were delayed until today.

  31. I know they have to have some savings to pay the traffickers, but migrants who feel their safety will be secured while being led across deserts and crammed into unsafe boats can’t be a cognitive elite, even by African standards.

  32. @L Woods

    Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    Lol. No. It's not ok, whatever the women might think about it.

    Also,

    “The tragedy, he pointed out, was that it was not the poorest Africans who are migrating, but those from the middle class, with the money to finance the trip.”

    So if even poorer Africans were filling up Europe, he would be cool with that.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    I don't speak French, but I wonder if there might have been a translation issue with that quote. He may have been trying to say that the people coming from Africa are the ones who are in the best position to improve life in their home countries and also pointing out that they aren't as desperate economically as they claim. It also could have been just a dumb statement from a politician.
  33. You know, if we just had secure borders, we wouldn’t have to lecture other countries about, well, anything other than military maneuvers around our border.

    Do Japanese leaders run around Africa wagging their fingers and telling Africans to have fewer children? No, of course not. It’s not their business. And because they have a secure borders, it won’t be their business.

    Secure you border and let other countries live how they want as long as they don’t threaten you militarily. It’s a nice system, which is why the Founding Fathers endorsed it.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Secure you border and let other countries live how they want as long as they don’t threaten you militarily. It’s a nice system, which is why the Founding Fathers endorsed it.
     
    The founding fathers had an ocean between them and the Old World—Washington refers to our "detached and distant situation" that "invites and enables us to pursue a different course" than that of European nations. Europeans don't have this luxury.

    And of course Africa doesn't (and likely never will) pose a military threat. Those young men on rafts aren't armed with anything other than pathos. Raspail understood this. If you don't let them in, they'll loaf at your border all day—some will sicken and die—and make bad press. But they won't go anywhere. They have nowhere pressing to be!

    Long-term, there's likely no solution to Steve's favorite graph except geographic isolation, mass murder/forced sterilizations, or education. Macron evidently favors the third, which makes sense. It's not like he can move France.
  34. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    Sailer must be in a manic phase today, perhaps aided by some handy stimulants, not necessarily of lawful status.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    “Sailer must be in a manic phase today, perhaps aided by some handy stimulants”

    Naw, he just finally got enough sleep
  35. @Impolitic
    Macron's been better than expected. If there's any way Trump can nudge him into a leadership position in Europe rather than Merkel, he should.

    Germany naturally dominates Europe and will for the foreseeable future. The best thing for Europe is to make Germany’s interests coincide as much as possible with the interests of Europe as a whole, to the extent such interests even exist. At best, France can only be the first mate on the ship that is Europe.

  36. @Intelligent Dasein

    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    If you think there is no middle ground between childlessness and 7-8 children/woman (with a survival rate far higher than our ancestors 200 years ago), then you should find a new username.

  37. @Impolitic
    Macron's been better than expected. If there's any way Trump can nudge him into a leadership position in Europe rather than Merkel, he should.

    Macron is a talker. That’s all he does and will ever do. His latest ‘courageous’ talk in Nigeria is even less than that – it only opens up space for the usual liberal onslaught.

    Macron also misses the point: it is not the poverty or the fecundity in Africa that drives the migrants, it is the largely open doors to EU to get something for nothing. Macron’s talk was a distraction. It is much simpler: outsiders cannot have a ‘right’ to your house, it doesn’t matter where they came from and how many of them there are. This is post-menopausal charity out of control and the solution is in Europe, not in Nigeria. And for that Macron lacks cojones, so he will just stall and distract.

  38. Will the much-vaunted French influence in Africa count for a hill of beans? Or is the whole French project a vanity and graft of French elites, who through their state-media arm have helped millions of blacks in Africa and Haiti speak a nearly flawless, Parisian French?

  39. Blacks, the least self-aware people on earth.

    https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/864518584164147200

    The main racial profiling is blacks profiling non-blacks as easy victims.

  40. Alternatively Macron could have said ‘cut your birthrate or we’ll F you up like we did Libya’.

    Given the observed African IQ profile maybe a large number of children from polygamous marriages maximizes inherited IQ. Maybe the Africans have a plan based in science and Macon is just mouthing off.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    “maybe a large number of children from polygamous marriages maximizes inherited IQ“

    It probably maximizes something, but I’m not sure it’s IQ ... probably some trait that helps your genes survive in a Malthusian environment, such as the physical ability to have lots of full term pregnancies (for women) and the “ability”, with or without violence, to procure lots of mates (for men)
  41. @Almost Missouri
    Also,

    "The tragedy, he pointed out, was that it was not the poorest Africans who are migrating, but those from the middle class, with the money to finance the trip."
     
    So if even poorer Africans were filling up Europe, he would be cool with that.

    I don’t speak French, but I wonder if there might have been a translation issue with that quote. He may have been trying to say that the people coming from Africa are the ones who are in the best position to improve life in their home countries and also pointing out that they aren’t as desperate economically as they claim. It also could have been just a dumb statement from a politician.

  42. @Intelligent Dasein

    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans.

    Africa is not the United States or Europe. Macron isn’t telling healthy twenty-year-olds not to have any children, he’s telling people who already have four kids that they shouldn’t have any more. This is sensible advice that Africans need to hear, since they can barely feed and house themselves at their current number.

    Someone with, say, three children and more money than his neighbor is obviously neither childless nor a loser. He hasn’t “given up his fertility”, he’s attenuated it based on population pressure, a trait that makes us humans different from whitetail deer and lemmings.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Macron isn’t telling healthy twenty-year-olds not to have any children, he’s telling people who already have four kids that they shouldn’t have any more.
     
    He should be telling the healthy that they should be having ONE to get their numbers down to what they can sustain on their own, and the stupid and unfit that they should have NONE.  Aid should be contingent on 99% compliance.

    But nobody's willing to go that far, which means that the war will still occur with a shift of a decade one way or another.
  43. Over at Vdare, somebody named Audacious Epigone wonders why blacks support open borders even though it is against their interests to do so, both economically and politically. The answer is the same reason blacks have never developed anything resembling civilization: low intelligence. Instead of that fortune off in the future, blacks settle for the nickels and dimes they can get right now in the form of welfare and PC platitudes telling them how wonderful they are.

    It’s the same with black fertility. Blacks think having lots of children increases their status in the here and now while not being in the least concerned about the hideous effects of overpopulation off in the future somewhere.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    It is bewildering and exasperating how so many of you at Unz Review equate a black American with a black African. The black Americans that you speak of who approve of open borders have a fertility rate of 1.88 children per woman, less than replacement levels.

    That being said, I mostly agree with your first paragraph on black Americans. However, black Africans will continue having lots of children as long as they have low levels of education, incompetent governments, and no social safety nets to fall back on when they get sick or old.
    , @Anon

    Over at Vdare, somebody named Audacious Epigone wonders why blacks support open borders even though it is against their interests to do so, both economically and politically. The answer is the same reason blacks have never developed anything resembling civilization: low intelligence.
     
    It isn't low intelligence. It's a cognitive distortion borne of mass media/Hollywood showcasing stories about Whites killing or enslaving Blacks. Whites are portrayed as an existential threat. Thus, their subdual or elimination takes priority over "jobs," especially in a wealthy welfare state.

    The second rational factor is that the weakening or elimination of the White community opens up access for Blacks to White women.
  44. @njguy73

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.
     
    You don't suppose supplying Lagos residents with TV sets and transmitting Sex In The City episodes will do the trick, do you? Just thought it might be worth a shot.

    For maximum effect you’d produce a show with black actors and actresses, similar to Sex In The City. Based in Lagos, or some other African metropolis.

    Some might donate money to do this.

    • Replies: @njguy73

    Some might donate money to do this.
     
    Shonda Rhimes, if you're reading this, have we got a pitch for you!
  45. @Tyrion 2
    Remi Adekoya with a perfectly sensible and clear-eyed take on this.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/10/only-religion-can-defuse-nigerias-demographic-time-bomb/

    Good article. Thanks for the link.

  46. From a purely biological point of view, Africans have no reason to heed Macron. They’re genetically programmed to reproduce and be damned. Why have 1bn descendants in 2100 when you could have 2bn? But famine or disease might kill millions, it’s argued. Even if it does, they’ll still be beating whites in the Darwinian race,with at least twice Europe’s population by century’s end no matter what happens. The rest of the world should either cut off all aid and let Nature do the culling, or make every penny of aid dependent on their drastically reducing the birth rate. And in the meantime, close the borders, of course.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Exactly. It's survival of the fittest, not survival of the smartest or nicest or most civilized.

    Africans seem best suited to the current environment and whites the least suited. It's ironic since we're the one who created this environment.

    One way or the other, nature will sort all of this out in due time. The only question is whether whites go down with the Africans or wake up and secure our borders. Who knows.
    , @Anonymous
    Your prescriptions are the only viable solution.

    However they will be ignored if not excoriated.

    They contradict the State Religion.

    We are Apostates.
    , @Daniel Williams

    But famine or disease might kill millions, it’s argued. Even if it does, they’ll still be beating whites in the Darwinian race,with at least twice Europe’s population by century’s end no matter what happens.
     
    That's false, just as it would be false to say that one ant species is beating another by producing more offspring.

    We white devils may end up outnumbered by Africans, but unless we're in direct, day-to-day competition with them for resources (we're not) then they're not the existential threat you're making them out to be. They exist in a different environment and are adapting to different pressures.

    Are any of the nations that contribute to the black line on Steve's graph going to build navies to cross the Atlantic? Do you foresee Burundi or Rwanda developing nuclear weapons capable of harming us? Air forces? Anything?
  47. @Samuel Skinner

    If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living… well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.
     
    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they outcompete you.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.
     
    They aren't pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.

    I’m an optimist — I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.
     
    Africa is only able to feed itself now because of foreign food and technology. Given the trend in the western world (downwards towards total disintegration) it is doubtful they will be able to feed their current population, much less any increase.

    Tyrion 2 linked to an article by a Nigerian, Remi Adekoya, apparently living in Poland. He agrees a crisis is coming, based on the still growing population and the GDP shrinking (in real terms).

    He also describes some Nigerians as seeing their growing population as a strength, and being distrustful of whites telling them otherwise. This suggests they understand that they stand to outcompete others evolutionarily.

    Economically this is wrong though. I am certain Nigerians have no industrial capacity for ships or planes. If Western powers pull up roots from Nigeria, the only people they’ll be outcompeting are each other, and their neighbors, in a desperate struggle not to starve.

  48. @Intelligent Dasein

    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    “When you have 7-8 children per woman, you can have 8% growth and you will remain poor. Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”

    In other words, Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans. Somehow I do not think the Africans are going to listen to that.

    I’m not certain that there is virtue in having children that neither the parents nor the greater society can feed. African nations are not in peril of becoming underpopulated and rife with catladies and incels.

  49. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    What is up with your posting schedule Mr. Sailer? One or two, with plenty of time to read, including comments and then BAM 10 drop one after the other in a span of an hour or two. Are you channeling Ross Perot circa 1992?

    Anyway, God Bless and keep fighting the good fight.

    Sailer’s posts are sometimes like brain farts. Every time he has a brain fart, we see a new post.

  50. I’m liking Macron much more than Hollande. He’s got balls to tell the Africans like it is. Too bad still not enough balls to turn them back. He is after all still a halal food eating surrender monkey aka Frenchman.

    The French are also much more hard core about assimilation than the stupid English, who still sing the praises of multiculturalism.

    • Replies: @julius caesar

    The French are also much more hard core about assimilation than the stupid English, who still sing the praises of multiculturalism.

     

    Assimilation in France = Teaching migrants French, how to access social security (benefits) & how to apply for public housing. Nothing more.
  51. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:

    Macron is wasting his breath. Modern humans are doomed to be taken to extinction by Africans, a species who only know how to consume and reproduce, and constantly resorting to violence to support their consumption and reproduction.

    There’s a reason why everyone else got the hell out of Africa 50,000 years ago. Now that reason has followed us out and we’re letting them take over. There’s no place else to run from these prehistoric humans.

  52. @Rob McX
    From a purely biological point of view, Africans have no reason to heed Macron. They're genetically programmed to reproduce and be damned. Why have 1bn descendants in 2100 when you could have 2bn? But famine or disease might kill millions, it's argued. Even if it does, they'll still be beating whites in the Darwinian race,with at least twice Europe's population by century's end no matter what happens. The rest of the world should either cut off all aid and let Nature do the culling, or make every penny of aid dependent on their drastically reducing the birth rate. And in the meantime, close the borders, of course.

    Exactly. It’s survival of the fittest, not survival of the smartest or nicest or most civilized.

    Africans seem best suited to the current environment and whites the least suited. It’s ironic since we’re the one who created this environment.

    One way or the other, nature will sort all of this out in due time. The only question is whether whites go down with the Africans or wake up and secure our borders. Who knows.

    • Agree: Peter Johnson
  53. Anonymous[229] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob McX
    From a purely biological point of view, Africans have no reason to heed Macron. They're genetically programmed to reproduce and be damned. Why have 1bn descendants in 2100 when you could have 2bn? But famine or disease might kill millions, it's argued. Even if it does, they'll still be beating whites in the Darwinian race,with at least twice Europe's population by century's end no matter what happens. The rest of the world should either cut off all aid and let Nature do the culling, or make every penny of aid dependent on their drastically reducing the birth rate. And in the meantime, close the borders, of course.

    Your prescriptions are the only viable solution.

    However they will be ignored if not excoriated.

    They contradict the State Religion.

    We are Apostates.

  54. OT: For those of you who think the Chinese are just a bunch of perfectly disciplined people who are going to eat our lunch, I give you this Air China pilot and his crew:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-44818617

  55. @Tyrion 2
    Remi Adekoya with a perfectly sensible and clear-eyed take on this.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/10/only-religion-can-defuse-nigerias-demographic-time-bomb/

    Let me translate that article for you:

    “Hi! I’m Remi Adekoya. You know me. I’m the Nigerian who managed to escape that sh*t hole and run off to live with the white folks in Poland. And, boy, it has worked out great for me! I married a white girl, made some babies, and got a job as the Foreign Policy editor of the Warsaw Business Journal! Great job. I got my own apartment and car. Hot and cold running water. Great medical and retirement benefits. Heck, I LOVE it here.””

    “But enough about me. Lets talk about you. What you need to do is stay there in Nigeria and make fewer babies. Really. It’s the only way to have a better life.”

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  56. @eah
    Watch this video of that disgraceful drunkard Jean-Claude Juncker -- this is EU "leadership" -- no wonder people want out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oecvYFq_wi0

    That’s hilarious.

    My wife kept making fun of Melania Trump tiptoeing on the various stages, entryways and stairs in her seventeen-inch heels (which do it for me!) but this guy is freaking funny. Those “leaders” live a great life there and do not serve the European people at all.

  57. @Dunnyveg
    Over at Vdare, somebody named Audacious Epigone wonders why blacks support open borders even though it is against their interests to do so, both economically and politically. The answer is the same reason blacks have never developed anything resembling civilization: low intelligence. Instead of that fortune off in the future, blacks settle for the nickels and dimes they can get right now in the form of welfare and PC platitudes telling them how wonderful they are.

    It's the same with black fertility. Blacks think having lots of children increases their status in the here and now while not being in the least concerned about the hideous effects of overpopulation off in the future somewhere.

    It is bewildering and exasperating how so many of you at Unz Review equate a black American with a black African. The black Americans that you speak of who approve of open borders have a fertility rate of 1.88 children per woman, less than replacement levels.

    That being said, I mostly agree with your first paragraph on black Americans. However, black Africans will continue having lots of children as long as they have low levels of education, incompetent governments, and no social safety nets to fall back on when they get sick or old.

    • Replies: @J.Ross

    However, black Africans will continue having lots of children as long as they have low levels of education, incompetent governments, and no social safety nets to fall back on when they get sick or old.
     
    And indeed, long after they have solved those problems, as demonstrated by various Southern African kings, or by middle class Nigerians with four wives.
  58. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    Sailer must be in a manic phase today, perhaps aided by some handy stimulants, not necessarily of lawful status.

    “Sailer must be in a manic phase today, perhaps aided by some handy stimulants”

    Naw, he just finally got enough sleep

  59. @Achmed E. Newman

    Can’t believe Sailer’s capable of such idiotic shitposting.
     
    Let me set you straight on how this works, Bierstiefel: The stuff in gray boxes in not Mr. Sailer's writing, just as the sentence I put in blockquotes (thanks, Ron Unz, for use of this tag) above is not mine but yours.

    If it's your opnion that Macron does not deserve praise here, that's another story. I kind of agree, but Steve did not praise anything, but just pointed out that Macron mentioned something that indicated he understand the "world's most important graph" (Steve's term - I think there are graphs of financial matters that could be right up there.)

    I think there are graphs of financial matters that could be right up there.

    Such as what?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Graphs of increases in debt of all kinds, plots of all kinds of bad things happening vs. interest rates being let to rise toward natural levels, real employment levels, etc. Don't mind me, #152, I'm a financial gloom-and-doomer - it keeps me going each morning. There are a few of us here - DCSunsets, what's your 20?

    BTW, that doesn't mean that Sailer's pick is not the most existential (meaning important right now, in that case), but just that I think things won't get that far as the SHTF will happen first.
  60. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @George
    Alternatively Macron could have said 'cut your birthrate or we'll F you up like we did Libya'.

    Given the observed African IQ profile maybe a large number of children from polygamous marriages maximizes inherited IQ. Maybe the Africans have a plan based in science and Macon is just mouthing off.

    “maybe a large number of children from polygamous marriages maximizes inherited IQ“

    It probably maximizes something, but I’m not sure it’s IQ … probably some trait that helps your genes survive in a Malthusian environment, such as the physical ability to have lots of full term pregnancies (for women) and the “ability”, with or without violence, to procure lots of mates (for men)

    • Replies: @Anon

    the “ability”, with or without violence, to procure lots of mates (for men)
     
    That sounds like intelligence.
  61. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dunnyveg
    Over at Vdare, somebody named Audacious Epigone wonders why blacks support open borders even though it is against their interests to do so, both economically and politically. The answer is the same reason blacks have never developed anything resembling civilization: low intelligence. Instead of that fortune off in the future, blacks settle for the nickels and dimes they can get right now in the form of welfare and PC platitudes telling them how wonderful they are.

    It's the same with black fertility. Blacks think having lots of children increases their status in the here and now while not being in the least concerned about the hideous effects of overpopulation off in the future somewhere.

    Over at Vdare, somebody named Audacious Epigone wonders why blacks support open borders even though it is against their interests to do so, both economically and politically. The answer is the same reason blacks have never developed anything resembling civilization: low intelligence.

    It isn’t low intelligence. It’s a cognitive distortion borne of mass media/Hollywood showcasing stories about Whites killing or enslaving Blacks. Whites are portrayed as an existential threat. Thus, their subdual or elimination takes priority over “jobs,” especially in a wealthy welfare state.

    The second rational factor is that the weakening or elimination of the White community opens up access for Blacks to White women.

  62. @Anonymous
    “maybe a large number of children from polygamous marriages maximizes inherited IQ“

    It probably maximizes something, but I’m not sure it’s IQ ... probably some trait that helps your genes survive in a Malthusian environment, such as the physical ability to have lots of full term pregnancies (for women) and the “ability”, with or without violence, to procure lots of mates (for men)

    the “ability”, with or without violence, to procure lots of mates (for men)

    That sounds like intelligence.

  63. @L Woods

    Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    Lol. No. It's not ok, whatever the women might think about it.

    Their women probably are not fine with birthing and raising ten children in ten years, so in practical terms Macron’s appeal is an appeal would drop the birth rate if it were followed.

  64. I have forgotten his name but another iSteve commenter predicted that Macron was a globalist attempt to pacify the Trumpening with cheap talk, and this proves it, if it was not already proven. France is massively, intimately involved in Africa, down to military interventions and regime change. They could absolutely reduce birth rates in parts of Africa if that was a goal of theirs.
    As this other commenter predicted, Macron will cover up globalist continuity, make offensive statements (for which he will never be held to the same standard as peasants, for the same reason that minor drug use by narcotics cops is not militantly prosecuted), make meaningless quibbles in policy (which will generate rioting, but so will anything else), and in the end shrug and say, “oh gosh I guess it was inevitable. After all, I was so noisily against it.”

    • Replies: @anon

    and in the end shrug and say, “oh gosh I guess it was inevitable. After all, I was so noisily against it.”
     
    It's the French way, especially when they are bought-and-paid-for Rothschild agents.
  65. @Triumph104
    It is bewildering and exasperating how so many of you at Unz Review equate a black American with a black African. The black Americans that you speak of who approve of open borders have a fertility rate of 1.88 children per woman, less than replacement levels.

    That being said, I mostly agree with your first paragraph on black Americans. However, black Africans will continue having lots of children as long as they have low levels of education, incompetent governments, and no social safety nets to fall back on when they get sick or old.

    However, black Africans will continue having lots of children as long as they have low levels of education, incompetent governments, and no social safety nets to fall back on when they get sick or old.

    And indeed, long after they have solved those problems, as demonstrated by various Southern African kings, or by middle class Nigerians with four wives.

  66. @Samuel Skinner

    If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living… well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.
     
    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they outcompete you.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.
     
    They aren't pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.

    I’m an optimist — I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.
     
    Africa is only able to feed itself now because of foreign food and technology. Given the trend in the western world (downwards towards total disintegration) it is doubtful they will be able to feed their current population, much less any increase.

    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they outcompete you.

    On the ground, the lower 80% of the population has access to 20% of the resources.

    Whatever is available to mankind, Africans are pretty much going to be dividing 20% of that total amongst themselves. They would do well to consider how much each person will be getting and breed accordingly.

    [Hundreds of millions of lives that come and go gives Evolution the variation it requires] in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.

    There’s more to be said here. Nature is pretty good at selecting for survival, but when selecting for more than just survival, more bodies can get in the way.

  67. @eah
    Macron is a typical European manlet politician -- you find them all over the continent (Horst Seehofer is another) -- whenever he says anything the least bit politically incorrect it makes the news -- otherwise it's business as usual.

    After Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini refused to accept the NGO vessel packed with shipwrecked immigrants, Macron said that Italy was "playing politics" with the migrants, and that the Italian government had displayed "cynicism and irresponsibility."

    "shipwrecked"

    Macron said that Italy was “playing politics” with the migrants, and that the Italian government had displayed “cynicism and irresponsibility.

    Holy psychological projection, Monsieur Macron!

  68. There is no chance Europe can keep Africans out. They lack manpower not enough young White men. Willpower most White women want immavasation. Money Europe is broke.

    Europeans are soft and weak and easy pickings. Like sadly Americans where Whites are a functional second class minority. Most kid under 18 are non White.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Nature is a bitch.

    Doesn't matter that you're the strongest kid on the playground if you're not willing to fight.
    , @anon
    All the more reason why the US needs to pull out of NATO. Europe needs to rebuild their own army. They can't even protect themselves anymore. A country without an army is an emasculated country. European men have been completely emasculated since WWII thanks to US protection. That's why so many are now gay. Same thing's happening with Japan and South Korea, so many of their young men are either fat or busy dying their hair pink and getting plastic surgery to look prettier than the women.
  69. @Lowe
    For maximum effect you'd produce a show with black actors and actresses, similar to Sex In The City. Based in Lagos, or some other African metropolis.

    Some might donate money to do this.

    Some might donate money to do this.

    Shonda Rhimes, if you’re reading this, have we got a pitch for you!

  70. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    You know, if we just had secure borders, we wouldn't have to lecture other countries about, well, anything other than military maneuvers around our border.

    Do Japanese leaders run around Africa wagging their fingers and telling Africans to have fewer children? No, of course not. It's not their business. And because they have a secure borders, it won't be their business.

    Secure you border and let other countries live how they want as long as they don't threaten you militarily. It's a nice system, which is why the Founding Fathers endorsed it.

    Secure you border and let other countries live how they want as long as they don’t threaten you militarily. It’s a nice system, which is why the Founding Fathers endorsed it.

    The founding fathers had an ocean between them and the Old World—Washington refers to our “detached and distant situation” that “invites and enables us to pursue a different course” than that of European nations. Europeans don’t have this luxury.

    And of course Africa doesn’t (and likely never will) pose a military threat. Those young men on rafts aren’t armed with anything other than pathos. Raspail understood this. If you don’t let them in, they’ll loaf at your border all day—some will sicken and die—and make bad press. But they won’t go anywhere. They have nowhere pressing to be!

    Long-term, there’s likely no solution to Steve’s favorite graph except geographic isolation, mass murder/forced sterilizations, or education. Macron evidently favors the third, which makes sense. It’s not like he can move France.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Blacks never pose a military threat to anybody. They're extremely violent, but utterly incapable of any organization, much less supplying an army.

    If you don’t let them in, they’ll loaf at your border all day—some will sicken and die—and make bad press. But they won’t go anywhere. They have nowhere pressing to be!
     
    Well, the Israelis seemed to have figured this out. If you don't let them into your country, they go back home. They may not have any pressing place to be, but they do need to eat.

    Armed borders work.
    , @anon

    Long-term, there’s likely no solution to Steve’s favorite graph except geographic isolation, mass murder/forced sterilizations, or education. Macron evidently favors the third, which makes sense. It’s not like he can move France.
     
    Bill Gates has been doing his philanthropy in Africa for over 20 years, saving millions of babies with his vaccines, free foods and vitamins, but now that those babies are all grown up and needing jobs, Bill has no answer for them except to invade Europe. If these people could actually be educated Gates would've done it by now. Instead the African mothers took all his freebies except the free condoms and continue to pump out those babies like there's no tomorrow. And now Macron wants to try more of the same. What do you call insanity? Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome each time.
  71. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:

    Macron is right in that it is the middle class who leave, especially the doctors. We are taking away too many doctors from 3rd world countries, esp. India, Africa and Cuba, leading to acute doctor shortages in these countries. Every year when the media trumpets those kids who get admitted to all 8 Ivy League schools there’s always at least one Nigerian kid, usually son of a doctor.

    Africa is not going to develop as long as our elite schools continue to lure away any and all Africans smart enough to do a long division, with generous scholarships. The rationale is that they would return to lead Africa upon graduation but none ever do. They end up working for Microsoft or Google instead, to help fulfill their diversity quotas.

    Our immigration policy is causing massive brain drain where they are most needed and exacerbate inequality around the world.

  72. @Rob McX
    From a purely biological point of view, Africans have no reason to heed Macron. They're genetically programmed to reproduce and be damned. Why have 1bn descendants in 2100 when you could have 2bn? But famine or disease might kill millions, it's argued. Even if it does, they'll still be beating whites in the Darwinian race,with at least twice Europe's population by century's end no matter what happens. The rest of the world should either cut off all aid and let Nature do the culling, or make every penny of aid dependent on their drastically reducing the birth rate. And in the meantime, close the borders, of course.

    But famine or disease might kill millions, it’s argued. Even if it does, they’ll still be beating whites in the Darwinian race,with at least twice Europe’s population by century’s end no matter what happens.

    That’s false, just as it would be false to say that one ant species is beating another by producing more offspring.

    We white devils may end up outnumbered by Africans, but unless we’re in direct, day-to-day competition with them for resources (we’re not) then they’re not the existential threat you’re making them out to be. They exist in a different environment and are adapting to different pressures.

    Are any of the nations that contribute to the black line on Steve’s graph going to build navies to cross the Atlantic? Do you foresee Burundi or Rwanda developing nuclear weapons capable of harming us? Air forces? Anything?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    I take your point, but I didn't mean they're in competition for the same resources (although our rulers are determined to share ours with them if we let them). I mean that, when compared to whites, they're doing better in terms of propagating their genes.
  73. Lagos is a very productive place to visit, if you’re trying to get horny young pussy that knows it gains social prestige when a a mulatto baby pops out.

    When (then) Philippines President Estrada visited the emir of Kuwait to schneur for financial credits, Estrada flew over 50 young Filipina actresses in his entourage to Kuwait. It was in the Manila newspapers, who reported the fact with zero comments

  74. @Daniel Williams

    Secure you border and let other countries live how they want as long as they don’t threaten you militarily. It’s a nice system, which is why the Founding Fathers endorsed it.
     
    The founding fathers had an ocean between them and the Old World—Washington refers to our "detached and distant situation" that "invites and enables us to pursue a different course" than that of European nations. Europeans don't have this luxury.

    And of course Africa doesn't (and likely never will) pose a military threat. Those young men on rafts aren't armed with anything other than pathos. Raspail understood this. If you don't let them in, they'll loaf at your border all day—some will sicken and die—and make bad press. But they won't go anywhere. They have nowhere pressing to be!

    Long-term, there's likely no solution to Steve's favorite graph except geographic isolation, mass murder/forced sterilizations, or education. Macron evidently favors the third, which makes sense. It's not like he can move France.

    Blacks never pose a military threat to anybody. They’re extremely violent, but utterly incapable of any organization, much less supplying an army.

    If you don’t let them in, they’ll loaf at your border all day—some will sicken and die—and make bad press. But they won’t go anywhere. They have nowhere pressing to be!

    Well, the Israelis seemed to have figured this out. If you don’t let them into your country, they go back home. They may not have any pressing place to be, but they do need to eat.

    Armed borders work.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Well, the Israelis seemed to have figured this out. If you don’t let them into your country, they go back home. They may not have any pressing place to be, but they do need to eat.

    Armed borders work.
     
    Armed borders work now, under today's conditions, with today's numbers.

    Look again closely at Steve's graph. How well would Israel's fence work if there were ten or twenty times as many Palestinians—each with a proportionately smaller share of food than today's Palestinian enjoys, and with even less to lose—storming it? Ever seen the last reel of Day of the Dead?
  75. @Whiskey
    There is no chance Europe can keep Africans out. They lack manpower not enough young White men. Willpower most White women want immavasation. Money Europe is broke.

    Europeans are soft and weak and easy pickings. Like sadly Americans where Whites are a functional second class minority. Most kid under 18 are non White.

    Nature is a bitch.

    Doesn’t matter that you’re the strongest kid on the playground if you’re not willing to fight.

  76. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Williams

    Secure you border and let other countries live how they want as long as they don’t threaten you militarily. It’s a nice system, which is why the Founding Fathers endorsed it.
     
    The founding fathers had an ocean between them and the Old World—Washington refers to our "detached and distant situation" that "invites and enables us to pursue a different course" than that of European nations. Europeans don't have this luxury.

    And of course Africa doesn't (and likely never will) pose a military threat. Those young men on rafts aren't armed with anything other than pathos. Raspail understood this. If you don't let them in, they'll loaf at your border all day—some will sicken and die—and make bad press. But they won't go anywhere. They have nowhere pressing to be!

    Long-term, there's likely no solution to Steve's favorite graph except geographic isolation, mass murder/forced sterilizations, or education. Macron evidently favors the third, which makes sense. It's not like he can move France.

    Long-term, there’s likely no solution to Steve’s favorite graph except geographic isolation, mass murder/forced sterilizations, or education. Macron evidently favors the third, which makes sense. It’s not like he can move France.

    Bill Gates has been doing his philanthropy in Africa for over 20 years, saving millions of babies with his vaccines, free foods and vitamins, but now that those babies are all grown up and needing jobs, Bill has no answer for them except to invade Europe. If these people could actually be educated Gates would’ve done it by now. Instead the African mothers took all his freebies except the free condoms and continue to pump out those babies like there’s no tomorrow. And now Macron wants to try more of the same. What do you call insanity? Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome each time.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    If these people could actually be educated Gates would’ve done it by now.
     
    If man could actually get to Mars, Elon Musk would've done it by now, right?

    Seriously, what do you propose? As nearly as I can tell, those of us who insist on thinking we are white can escape the rising tide of color against white world-supremacy by either:

    1. Putting something really big between us and Africa, like the Atlantic Ocean
    2. Killing millions of Africans
    3. Educating Africans on birth control

    Number one is a wonderful luxury for those of us who enjoy it already. Maybe we Americans will eventually welcome displaced whites here like they do in the Harold Covington novels, but I doubt it. Number two isn't really on the table, for reasons that only non-autistics understand. So Europe will try another go at education, and (I desperately hope, at least) we Americans will learn our lesson and not bring any more of the third world here.

    What did I miss?

  77. @Bierstiefel
    Macron telling Africans to ask their women? ahahah this is moronic beyond belief. Macron is a PR man trying to look tough. All hat no cattle. Any moron could fall for it, but how could the man who notices?

    What's gonna be next then? Macron tells Africans to please stop having so many kids? to please stop risking their lives and reconsider a the prospect of a life in an African shithole without welfare and better paid jobs?

    Are you on holidays Steve? Was that your intern shitposting?

    Can't believe Sailer's capable of such idiotic shitposting.

    At least he actually dares say something, unlike all other European leaders who are too afraid to even comment on this. I’ve always admired the French for their take-no-prisoner attitude towards assimilation, banning the burqa long before it was considered a women’s right, insisting on all newcomers learning French, banning burqini etc, as opposed to the yellow belly Brits who just encourage multiculturalism instead.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yep.

    And a fat lot of good it's done the French too.

    See last week's Nantes riots.

    A mere 'vicarage tea party',(as the English like to say), compared to what's coming down the road.

    Oh yes. Remember that elderly French Roman Catholic priest ritually sacrificed like a goat, with his throat slit, at the altar of his own church in the middle of his mass?

    How's that for assimilation?

    Memo to eastern Europe. Never but never let the bastards in no matter what price in Hell and Damnation from the shits at The Economist you might pay.
    You fought off the commies, you fought off the Nazis but these bastards are the biggest of the lot.
  78. @Whiskey
    There is no chance Europe can keep Africans out. They lack manpower not enough young White men. Willpower most White women want immavasation. Money Europe is broke.

    Europeans are soft and weak and easy pickings. Like sadly Americans where Whites are a functional second class minority. Most kid under 18 are non White.

    All the more reason why the US needs to pull out of NATO. Europe needs to rebuild their own army. They can’t even protect themselves anymore. A country without an army is an emasculated country. European men have been completely emasculated since WWII thanks to US protection. That’s why so many are now gay. Same thing’s happening with Japan and South Korea, so many of their young men are either fat or busy dying their hair pink and getting plastic surgery to look prettier than the women.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    Whiskey pointed something on more than 1 occasion that I find utterly fascinating....

    WHAT IF Putin got a hot itch up his ass and just invaded Europe? Could they or our military stop him? For the 1st time a few months back I asked this to myself and couldn't get a straight answer

    Same with the various Islamic minorities in Europe......what if they declare a confederation of small caliphates or something more unstable lime disparate unconnected Muslim mini states within Europe.....would Europe have the manpower or will to crush them....at this point in history I truly do not know.....same with our nukes.....whiskey made another great point.....what if our nukes.....simply don't work any more. A good number of them are from the Cold War.....

    I don't have answers to these questions.....
  79. @J.Ross
    I have forgotten his name but another iSteve commenter predicted that Macron was a globalist attempt to pacify the Trumpening with cheap talk, and this proves it, if it was not already proven. France is massively, intimately involved in Africa, down to military interventions and regime change. They could absolutely reduce birth rates in parts of Africa if that was a goal of theirs.
    As this other commenter predicted, Macron will cover up globalist continuity, make offensive statements (for which he will never be held to the same standard as peasants, for the same reason that minor drug use by narcotics cops is not militantly prosecuted), make meaningless quibbles in policy (which will generate rioting, but so will anything else), and in the end shrug and say, "oh gosh I guess it was inevitable. After all, I was so noisily against it."

    and in the end shrug and say, “oh gosh I guess it was inevitable. After all, I was so noisily against it.”

    It’s the French way, especially when they are bought-and-paid-for Rothschild agents.

  80. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:

    Bill Gates should make up for his mistake from the past 20 years by offering $10,000 to every African woman ages 12-30 who agrees to have a tubal ligation. They can have the procedure reversed for free after age 35, or when they graduate from college, whichever comes first.

    In fact we should make the same offer to black and hispanic women in the US, up the reward to $100,000.

  81. @Daniel Williams

    But famine or disease might kill millions, it’s argued. Even if it does, they’ll still be beating whites in the Darwinian race,with at least twice Europe’s population by century’s end no matter what happens.
     
    That's false, just as it would be false to say that one ant species is beating another by producing more offspring.

    We white devils may end up outnumbered by Africans, but unless we're in direct, day-to-day competition with them for resources (we're not) then they're not the existential threat you're making them out to be. They exist in a different environment and are adapting to different pressures.

    Are any of the nations that contribute to the black line on Steve's graph going to build navies to cross the Atlantic? Do you foresee Burundi or Rwanda developing nuclear weapons capable of harming us? Air forces? Anything?

    I take your point, but I didn’t mean they’re in competition for the same resources (although our rulers are determined to share ours with them if we let them). I mean that, when compared to whites, they’re doing better in terms of propagating their genes.

  82. @anon
    I'm liking Macron much more than Hollande. He's got balls to tell the Africans like it is. Too bad still not enough balls to turn them back. He is after all still a halal food eating surrender monkey aka Frenchman.

    The French are also much more hard core about assimilation than the stupid English, who still sing the praises of multiculturalism.

    The French are also much more hard core about assimilation than the stupid English, who still sing the praises of multiculturalism.

    Assimilation in France = Teaching migrants French, how to access social security (benefits) & how to apply for public housing. Nothing more.

  83. @anon
    All the more reason why the US needs to pull out of NATO. Europe needs to rebuild their own army. They can't even protect themselves anymore. A country without an army is an emasculated country. European men have been completely emasculated since WWII thanks to US protection. That's why so many are now gay. Same thing's happening with Japan and South Korea, so many of their young men are either fat or busy dying their hair pink and getting plastic surgery to look prettier than the women.

    Whiskey pointed something on more than 1 occasion that I find utterly fascinating….

    WHAT IF Putin got a hot itch up his ass and just invaded Europe? Could they or our military stop him? For the 1st time a few months back I asked this to myself and couldn’t get a straight answer

    Same with the various Islamic minorities in Europe……what if they declare a confederation of small caliphates or something more unstable lime disparate unconnected Muslim mini states within Europe…..would Europe have the manpower or will to crush them….at this point in history I truly do not know…..same with our nukes…..whiskey made another great point…..what if our nukes…..simply don’t work any more. A good number of them are from the Cold War…..

    I don’t have answers to these questions…..

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The *REAL* danger to *European* people is not Putin.

    It's the EU.
  84. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Blacks never pose a military threat to anybody. They're extremely violent, but utterly incapable of any organization, much less supplying an army.

    If you don’t let them in, they’ll loaf at your border all day—some will sicken and die—and make bad press. But they won’t go anywhere. They have nowhere pressing to be!
     
    Well, the Israelis seemed to have figured this out. If you don't let them into your country, they go back home. They may not have any pressing place to be, but they do need to eat.

    Armed borders work.

    Well, the Israelis seemed to have figured this out. If you don’t let them into your country, they go back home. They may not have any pressing place to be, but they do need to eat.

    Armed borders work.

    Armed borders work now, under today’s conditions, with today’s numbers.

    Look again closely at Steve’s graph. How well would Israel’s fence work if there were ten or twenty times as many Palestinians—each with a proportionately smaller share of food than today’s Palestinian enjoys, and with even less to lose—storming it? Ever seen the last reel of Day of the Dead?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    How did the British Army storming the Somme or the German Army storming Verdun work out?
    , @Anonymous
    In an age of 'weapons of mass destruction' your point is moot

    That is, of course, the WILL exists to use those weapons.
    Apparently, the America of 1945 was vexed enough to have had that will.

    Just saying that - either way - absolutely nothing in the future is fixed or can be taken for granted.
  85. @Daniel Williams

    Well, the Israelis seemed to have figured this out. If you don’t let them into your country, they go back home. They may not have any pressing place to be, but they do need to eat.

    Armed borders work.
     
    Armed borders work now, under today's conditions, with today's numbers.

    Look again closely at Steve's graph. How well would Israel's fence work if there were ten or twenty times as many Palestinians—each with a proportionately smaller share of food than today's Palestinian enjoys, and with even less to lose—storming it? Ever seen the last reel of Day of the Dead?

    How did the British Army storming the Somme or the German Army storming Verdun work out?

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    How did the British Army storming the Somme or the German Army storming Verdun work out?
     
    I get your point, but imagine what would happen when cellphone footage of unarmed, hungry African refugees being torn to shreds by machine-gun fire and stacked like cordwood at the border fence appears on every mobile device in the world.

    Remember that the Brits eventually won that war.

  86. @anon

    Long-term, there’s likely no solution to Steve’s favorite graph except geographic isolation, mass murder/forced sterilizations, or education. Macron evidently favors the third, which makes sense. It’s not like he can move France.
     
    Bill Gates has been doing his philanthropy in Africa for over 20 years, saving millions of babies with his vaccines, free foods and vitamins, but now that those babies are all grown up and needing jobs, Bill has no answer for them except to invade Europe. If these people could actually be educated Gates would've done it by now. Instead the African mothers took all his freebies except the free condoms and continue to pump out those babies like there's no tomorrow. And now Macron wants to try more of the same. What do you call insanity? Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome each time.

    If these people could actually be educated Gates would’ve done it by now.

    If man could actually get to Mars, Elon Musk would’ve done it by now, right?

    Seriously, what do you propose? As nearly as I can tell, those of us who insist on thinking we are white can escape the rising tide of color against white world-supremacy by either:

    1. Putting something really big between us and Africa, like the Atlantic Ocean
    2. Killing millions of Africans
    3. Educating Africans on birth control

    Number one is a wonderful luxury for those of us who enjoy it already. Maybe we Americans will eventually welcome displaced whites here like they do in the Harold Covington novels, but I doubt it. Number two isn’t really on the table, for reasons that only non-autistics understand. So Europe will try another go at education, and (I desperately hope, at least) we Americans will learn our lesson and not bring any more of the third world here.

    What did I miss?

    • Replies: @Rob McX

    1. Putting something really big between us and Africa, like the Atlantic Ocean
     
    Or a strong border - wall, coastguards, navy, whatever. Stopping the invasion is a matter of will, not strength, geographical location or ability to induce the would-be immigrants to stay where they are. The "problem" of immigration and discussions on how to tackle it are nothing but a charade by politicians who don't want to stop it. One way they can continuously dodge dealing with it is by maintaining the ridiculous asylum system, whereby anyone can turn up without papers and claim refugee status. The authorities then go through the ritual of "processing" the claim of someone about whom they can know nothing, and yet make a judgement on whether he has a right to stay for life at the native taxpayers' expense.
  87. @Steve Sailer
    How did the British Army storming the Somme or the German Army storming Verdun work out?

    How did the British Army storming the Somme or the German Army storming Verdun work out?

    I get your point, but imagine what would happen when cellphone footage of unarmed, hungry African refugees being torn to shreds by machine-gun fire and stacked like cordwood at the border fence appears on every mobile device in the world.

    Remember that the Brits eventually won that war.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Knowing the Israelis, they'd simply tough it out and not give a damn.
  88. @Daniel Williams

    If these people could actually be educated Gates would’ve done it by now.
     
    If man could actually get to Mars, Elon Musk would've done it by now, right?

    Seriously, what do you propose? As nearly as I can tell, those of us who insist on thinking we are white can escape the rising tide of color against white world-supremacy by either:

    1. Putting something really big between us and Africa, like the Atlantic Ocean
    2. Killing millions of Africans
    3. Educating Africans on birth control

    Number one is a wonderful luxury for those of us who enjoy it already. Maybe we Americans will eventually welcome displaced whites here like they do in the Harold Covington novels, but I doubt it. Number two isn't really on the table, for reasons that only non-autistics understand. So Europe will try another go at education, and (I desperately hope, at least) we Americans will learn our lesson and not bring any more of the third world here.

    What did I miss?

    1. Putting something really big between us and Africa, like the Atlantic Ocean

    Or a strong border – wall, coastguards, navy, whatever. Stopping the invasion is a matter of will, not strength, geographical location or ability to induce the would-be immigrants to stay where they are. The “problem” of immigration and discussions on how to tackle it are nothing but a charade by politicians who don’t want to stop it. One way they can continuously dodge dealing with it is by maintaining the ridiculous asylum system, whereby anyone can turn up without papers and claim refugee status. The authorities then go through the ritual of “processing” the claim of someone about whom they can know nothing, and yet make a judgement on whether he has a right to stay for life at the native taxpayers’ expense.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    The “problem” of immigration and discussions on how to tackle it are nothing but a charade by politicians who don’t want to stop it.
     
    Right? Once upon a time--or so I'm told--the purpose of the military was to defend the nation.
    , @Anonymous
    ......and 'seed' the arrival of an infinite number of his kinsfolk.
  89. @L Woods

    Ask your women – if they are ok with it, then fine. If its about forced marriage, then no.”
     
    Lol. No. It's not ok, whatever the women might think about it.

    It’s not ok, whatever the women might think about it.

    Aren’t the women in Niger wanting 8-9 children apiece?  In a country which cannot feed the numbers it has?

    They are incontrovertibly NOT smarter than yeast.

  90. @Daniel Williams

    Macron is inviting Africans to give up their fertility and to come be cucked, childless losers who decided that history ended with them and who sold their people out for modernist baubles, like the Europeans.
     
    Africa is not the United States or Europe. Macron isn't telling healthy twenty-year-olds not to have any children, he's telling people who already have four kids that they shouldn't have any more. This is sensible advice that Africans need to hear, since they can barely feed and house themselves at their current number.

    Someone with, say, three children and more money than his neighbor is obviously neither childless nor a loser. He hasn't "given up his fertility", he's attenuated it based on population pressure, a trait that makes us humans different from whitetail deer and lemmings.

    Macron isn’t telling healthy twenty-year-olds not to have any children, he’s telling people who already have four kids that they shouldn’t have any more.

    He should be telling the healthy that they should be having ONE to get their numbers down to what they can sustain on their own, and the stupid and unfit that they should have NONE.  Aid should be contingent on 99% compliance.

    But nobody’s willing to go that far, which means that the war will still occur with a shift of a decade one way or another.

  91. @Anon

    I think there are graphs of financial matters that could be right up there.
     
    Such as what?

    Graphs of increases in debt of all kinds, plots of all kinds of bad things happening vs. interest rates being let to rise toward natural levels, real employment levels, etc. Don’t mind me, #152, I’m a financial gloom-and-doomer – it keeps me going each morning. There are a few of us here – DCSunsets, what’s your 20?

    BTW, that doesn’t mean that Sailer’s pick is not the most existential (meaning important right now, in that case), but just that I think things won’t get that far as the SHTF will happen first.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The MSM will have their bloody civil war when they want it, neither sooner nor later.

    All they're doing now is making sure the numbers will be on their side.

  92. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob McX

    1. Putting something really big between us and Africa, like the Atlantic Ocean
     
    Or a strong border - wall, coastguards, navy, whatever. Stopping the invasion is a matter of will, not strength, geographical location or ability to induce the would-be immigrants to stay where they are. The "problem" of immigration and discussions on how to tackle it are nothing but a charade by politicians who don't want to stop it. One way they can continuously dodge dealing with it is by maintaining the ridiculous asylum system, whereby anyone can turn up without papers and claim refugee status. The authorities then go through the ritual of "processing" the claim of someone about whom they can know nothing, and yet make a judgement on whether he has a right to stay for life at the native taxpayers' expense.

    The “problem” of immigration and discussions on how to tackle it are nothing but a charade by politicians who don’t want to stop it.

    Right? Once upon a time–or so I’m told–the purpose of the military was to defend the nation.

  93. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Graphs of increases in debt of all kinds, plots of all kinds of bad things happening vs. interest rates being let to rise toward natural levels, real employment levels, etc. Don't mind me, #152, I'm a financial gloom-and-doomer - it keeps me going each morning. There are a few of us here - DCSunsets, what's your 20?

    BTW, that doesn't mean that Sailer's pick is not the most existential (meaning important right now, in that case), but just that I think things won't get that far as the SHTF will happen first.

    The MSM will have their bloody civil war when they want it, neither sooner nor later.

    All they’re doing now is making sure the numbers will be on their side.

  94. @Samuel Skinner

    If Africans were simply making an informed decision to have somewhat more kids at the price of a slightly lower standard of living… well, that is a trade-off they are entitled to make.
     
    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they outcompete you.

    But, we are looking at hundreds of millions of pointless human deaths.
     
    They aren't pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.

    I’m an optimist — I think the behavior of sub-Saharan Africans may change before the mega-Holocaust hits them. I hope I am not being naively optimistic.
     
    Africa is only able to feed itself now because of foreign food and technology. Given the trend in the western world (downwards towards total disintegration) it is doubtful they will be able to feed their current population, much less any increase.

    Samuel Skinner wrote to me:

    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they [sub-Saharan Africans] outcompete you.

    No, in the not-very-long run at all, they are going to die for no good purpose in very large numbers.

    Sam also wrote:

    They [mass deaths of sub-Saharan Africans] aren’t pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.

    This does not have to happen. We humans are smart. We can understand how this works. We are not some slgae bloom in the ocean that is doomed to die out and lacks the intelligence to know it is doomed to die out.

    It is in the interest both of the West and of Africans themselves to avoid this sort of horrific tragedy. We had better hope that it will be avoided.

    Maybe it will occur despite our best efforts. But the least Westerners can do is to tell the truth about this and hope that some Africans are listening.

    Remember: if this tragedy occurs, it will be horrific for Africa but pretty bad for us too — for example, monster waves of desperate migrants, many carrying very nasty epidemic diseases.

    No: this is not just evolution in action. This will be a disaster for the human race. Unless it can be avoided.

    The Left wails about climate change, but climate change, even if the worst extrapolations are true, will be a day at the beach compared to what could happen to Africa.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The left, (and The Economist), wants *YOU* to go away so that the Africans can take your place - your carrying capacity, if you will.

    *THIS* is the real crux of the matter.
    Everything else is bullshit.

    And the Left/Economist are winning and have all the cards - even the 'Trump' cards.
  95. Anonymous[961] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    At least he actually dares say something, unlike all other European leaders who are too afraid to even comment on this. I've always admired the French for their take-no-prisoner attitude towards assimilation, banning the burqa long before it was considered a women's right, insisting on all newcomers learning French, banning burqini etc, as opposed to the yellow belly Brits who just encourage multiculturalism instead.

    Yep.

    And a fat lot of good it’s done the French too.

    See last week’s Nantes riots.

    A mere ‘vicarage tea party’,(as the English like to say), compared to what’s coming down the road.

    Oh yes. Remember that elderly French Roman Catholic priest ritually sacrificed like a goat, with his throat slit, at the altar of his own church in the middle of his mass?

    How’s that for assimilation?

    Memo to eastern Europe. Never but never let the bastards in no matter what price in Hell and Damnation from the shits at The Economist you might pay.
    You fought off the commies, you fought off the Nazis but these bastards are the biggest of the lot.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Apparently, credible plots by Islamists were discovered by French security services involving the hi-jack of some of the ubiquitous French nuclear power plants, and the deliberate running of those plants to meltdown/massive radioactivity emission.

    This, dear reader, is the state of play in contemporary France.

    Remember that the EU/Economist is doing its utmost damnedest to replicate this situation in eastern Europe.
  96. Anonymous[961] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned
    Whiskey pointed something on more than 1 occasion that I find utterly fascinating....

    WHAT IF Putin got a hot itch up his ass and just invaded Europe? Could they or our military stop him? For the 1st time a few months back I asked this to myself and couldn't get a straight answer

    Same with the various Islamic minorities in Europe......what if they declare a confederation of small caliphates or something more unstable lime disparate unconnected Muslim mini states within Europe.....would Europe have the manpower or will to crush them....at this point in history I truly do not know.....same with our nukes.....whiskey made another great point.....what if our nukes.....simply don't work any more. A good number of them are from the Cold War.....

    I don't have answers to these questions.....

    The *REAL* danger to *European* people is not Putin.

    It’s the EU.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  97. Anonymous[537] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Williams

    Well, the Israelis seemed to have figured this out. If you don’t let them into your country, they go back home. They may not have any pressing place to be, but they do need to eat.

    Armed borders work.
     
    Armed borders work now, under today's conditions, with today's numbers.

    Look again closely at Steve's graph. How well would Israel's fence work if there were ten or twenty times as many Palestinians—each with a proportionately smaller share of food than today's Palestinian enjoys, and with even less to lose—storming it? Ever seen the last reel of Day of the Dead?

    In an age of ‘weapons of mass destruction’ your point is moot

    That is, of course, the WILL exists to use those weapons.
    Apparently, the America of 1945 was vexed enough to have had that will.

    Just saying that – either way – absolutely nothing in the future is fixed or can be taken for granted.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    This.

    Nukes and wmd are worthless if there's no political willpower to use them and given the female and limp male politicians in Europe it may not happen.

    And again....theres the huge questions....a. can our small bases spread across Europe or the soyboy conscript euro armies stop Putin? And.......b. when was the last USA nuke test? 70s?
  98. Anonymous[961] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Williams

    How did the British Army storming the Somme or the German Army storming Verdun work out?
     
    I get your point, but imagine what would happen when cellphone footage of unarmed, hungry African refugees being torn to shreds by machine-gun fire and stacked like cordwood at the border fence appears on every mobile device in the world.

    Remember that the Brits eventually won that war.

    Knowing the Israelis, they’d simply tough it out and not give a damn.

  99. Anonymous[537] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob McX

    1. Putting something really big between us and Africa, like the Atlantic Ocean
     
    Or a strong border - wall, coastguards, navy, whatever. Stopping the invasion is a matter of will, not strength, geographical location or ability to induce the would-be immigrants to stay where they are. The "problem" of immigration and discussions on how to tackle it are nothing but a charade by politicians who don't want to stop it. One way they can continuously dodge dealing with it is by maintaining the ridiculous asylum system, whereby anyone can turn up without papers and claim refugee status. The authorities then go through the ritual of "processing" the claim of someone about whom they can know nothing, and yet make a judgement on whether he has a right to stay for life at the native taxpayers' expense.

    ……and ‘seed’ the arrival of an infinite number of his kinsfolk.

  100. Anonymous[537] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Samuel Skinner wrote to me:

    Since resources are finite, in the long run this trade off means they [sub-Saharan Africans] outcompete you.
     
    No, in the not-very-long run at all, they are going to die for no good purpose in very large numbers.

    Sam also wrote:

    They [mass deaths of sub-Saharan Africans] aren’t pointless. Evolution requires variation in order for selection to have the raw material it needs to function.
     
    This does not have to happen. We humans are smart. We can understand how this works. We are not some slgae bloom in the ocean that is doomed to die out and lacks the intelligence to know it is doomed to die out.

    It is in the interest both of the West and of Africans themselves to avoid this sort of horrific tragedy. We had better hope that it will be avoided.

    Maybe it will occur despite our best efforts. But the least Westerners can do is to tell the truth about this and hope that some Africans are listening.

    Remember: if this tragedy occurs, it will be horrific for Africa but pretty bad for us too -- for example, monster waves of desperate migrants, many carrying very nasty epidemic diseases.

    No: this is not just evolution in action. This will be a disaster for the human race. Unless it can be avoided.

    The Left wails about climate change, but climate change, even if the worst extrapolations are true, will be a day at the beach compared to what could happen to Africa.

    The left, (and The Economist), wants *YOU* to go away so that the Africans can take your place – your carrying capacity, if you will.

    *THIS* is the real crux of the matter.
    Everything else is bullshit.

    And the Left/Economist are winning and have all the cards – even the ‘Trump’ cards.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Anonymous[537} wrote to me:

    The left, (and The Economist), wants *YOU* to go away so that the Africans can take your place – your carrying capacity, if you will.
     
    Perhaps -- but if so, they are fools. Even if you were to depopulate North America and move sub-Saharan Africans over here, it would not really help. There would still be mass deaths of hundreds of millions of sub-Saharan Africans.

    The only solution is a reduction in the growth rate of their population.

    Framkly, I think those who fail to see this are indeed fools -- people so innumerate that they fail to understand the real meaning of exponential growth.
  101. Anonymous[961] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Yep.

    And a fat lot of good it's done the French too.

    See last week's Nantes riots.

    A mere 'vicarage tea party',(as the English like to say), compared to what's coming down the road.

    Oh yes. Remember that elderly French Roman Catholic priest ritually sacrificed like a goat, with his throat slit, at the altar of his own church in the middle of his mass?

    How's that for assimilation?

    Memo to eastern Europe. Never but never let the bastards in no matter what price in Hell and Damnation from the shits at The Economist you might pay.
    You fought off the commies, you fought off the Nazis but these bastards are the biggest of the lot.

    Apparently, credible plots by Islamists were discovered by French security services involving the hi-jack of some of the ubiquitous French nuclear power plants, and the deliberate running of those plants to meltdown/massive radioactivity emission.

    This, dear reader, is the state of play in contemporary France.

    Remember that the EU/Economist is doing its utmost damnedest to replicate this situation in eastern Europe.

  102. @Anonymous
    In an age of 'weapons of mass destruction' your point is moot

    That is, of course, the WILL exists to use those weapons.
    Apparently, the America of 1945 was vexed enough to have had that will.

    Just saying that - either way - absolutely nothing in the future is fixed or can be taken for granted.

    This.

    Nukes and wmd are worthless if there’s no political willpower to use them and given the female and limp male politicians in Europe it may not happen.

    And again….theres the huge questions….a. can our small bases spread across Europe or the soyboy conscript euro armies stop Putin? And…….b. when was the last USA nuke test? 70s?

  103. @Anonymous
    The left, (and The Economist), wants *YOU* to go away so that the Africans can take your place - your carrying capacity, if you will.

    *THIS* is the real crux of the matter.
    Everything else is bullshit.

    And the Left/Economist are winning and have all the cards - even the 'Trump' cards.

    Anonymous[537} wrote to me:

    The left, (and The Economist), wants *YOU* to go away so that the Africans can take your place – your carrying capacity, if you will.

    Perhaps — but if so, they are fools. Even if you were to depopulate North America and move sub-Saharan Africans over here, it would not really help. There would still be mass deaths of hundreds of millions of sub-Saharan Africans.

    The only solution is a reduction in the growth rate of their population.

    Framkly, I think those who fail to see this are indeed fools — people so innumerate that they fail to understand the real meaning of exponential growth.

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