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James Toback: Triggered by Toback’s picture in the news, JPod will soon tweet about how you can tell Christopher Nolan is an anti-Semite just by looking at his filthy physiognomy

In the search to expose The Next Harvey Weinstein, the Los Angeles Times goes for the most obvious low-hanging fruit this side of Warren Beatty: Beatty’s buddy James Toback, the elderly writer-director-public nuisance:

38 women have come forward to accuse director James Toback of sexual harassment

I’m not sure why this is considered breaking news, since Toback has been notorious for hitting on hundreds of pretty girls walking down the street every week with his “I’m film director James Toback, I want you for my new movie” line for decades.

Toback has been an annoying figure on the fringes of my magazine-reading consciousness since the 1970s. Ever since I was a college student, I’ve been reading film critics explain that while, on paper, James Toback might sound like a total putz, if you had hung out with him like yours truly had, you too would realize he was a genius with important insights into how the rules of society are just a facade.

Toback hung around with Beatty, for whom he wrote the screenplay for Bugsy, perhaps the only movie he was directly involved in that was generally successful. (A couple of his early movies have been remade recently and did okay.)

His other buddies have included various black jocks such as running back / movie star Jim Brown and boxer Mike Tyson. Toback appears to be the source for most of the tales of Brown doing extremely bad things to girls, so maybe they’re mostly just BS. On the other hand, Brown let Toback move in with him for a couple of years, so he probably really is a jerk.

I can recall seeing about 20 minutes of Bugsy, but none of Toback’s other movies, which usually involve handsome movie stars acting out aspects of Toback’s personality, like James Caan in The Gambler as a college professor with a gambling obsession, Harvey Keitel in Fingers as a young man struggling with whether he’s a sensitive pianist artistic genius like his demented Jewish mother or a goombah like his brutish Italian father (Toback is not Italian), and Robert Downey Jr. in The Pickup Artist.

Spy magazine wrote in 1989 that Toback’s idealized self-conception of himself in The Pickup Artist is “Teaches grade school, cares for his invalid grandmother, saves a girl’s father from mobsters,” while the real life Toback’s chief virtue is: “Is not shy.”

Some guys just have a lot of chutzpah. From Spy in 1989:

Men have a theory, or so we’ve heard. It goes like this: On any given evening, if a guy tries to pick up 100 women, at least one of them will, in fact, go to bed with him. Very few men, however, are able to muster the sheer fortitude and shamelessness necessary to put this theory into practice, even if they were so inclined. Even fewer men can (or would) flaunt membership in both the Directors Guild of America and the Harvard Club of New York in an attempt to increase the odds in their favor.

In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a major manipulator of the culture to build today’s moral consensus that a vote for whichever Clinton is on the ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world, I can’t recall Toback being a political player. But perhaps if Beatty had run for the Senate, Toback would have been writing his speeches for him. That might have been fun.

 
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  1. while i’m washing the dishes, my wife is watching a woman on the tube describing how she didn’t let Harvey Weinstein have his way with her.

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    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Truth
    Well I think the main issue here is that I think the gender roles are revered at home, Edith Bunker.
    , @Neoconned
    I don't get it.

    What's the end game here? Toback is a nobody who hasn't even had a movie in theaters in almost two decades and really in thirty yrs.

    What are these women seeking? Just attention? I'm a film buff who used to loiter on the imdb message forums....& This is my first time hearing about this dude.

    Are these women doing this for sheer fame?

    This dude isn't that rich and he doesn't have 300$ million bucks like Weinstei n

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  2. DCThrowback says: • Website

    James Toback harrassing 38 women is interesting, sure; but Elie Weisel being accused of being a tushy-toucher is just plain reprllent.

    https://t.co/ykQhcYnmjX

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    Seidman argues that the Yiddish version [of Weisel's Night] was for Jewish readers, who wanted to hear about revenge, but the anger was removed for the largely Christian readership of the French translation. In the Yiddish edition, for example, when Buchenwald was liberated: "Early the next day Jewish boys ran off to Weimar to steal clothing and potatoes. And to rape German shiksas [un tsu fargvaldikn daytshe shikses]." In the 1958 French and 1960 English editions: "On the following morning, some of the young men went to Weimar to get some potatoes and clothes—and to sleep with girls [coucher avec des filles]. But of revenge, not a sign."
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_(book)#Moshe_the_Beadle
    , @DFH
    Oy vey! Who would have thought that a Jew could be both a liar and a molestor!
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  3. slumber_j says:

    A friend of mine and I were discussing this very subject last night and trying to figure out how the press was managing to gin up shock about something that was covered extensively in the press in the 1980s. Working hypothesis: round upon round of newsroom RIF-ing has left us a residue of low-earning journalists who have never heard of James Toback and were years away from even being conceived in the 1980s.

    Bonus subject to ponder in this case: What Will Graydon Carter Do?

    As founder and head honcho at Spy, he turned Toback’s behavior into an evergreen object of ridicule at that magazine. That was what Spy was for, after all. But in the end Condé Nast called, so he had to turn on a dime and spend the rest of his professional life fawning over the very same people.

    Does he point out that he scooped the universe decades ago on this shocking Toback news–one last feather in his cap before he goes off to organize ladies’ luncheons like Tina Brown or whatever? Or does he avoid the subject altogether so that nobody notices his…remarkable career transformation? Either way: Fun!!

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    • Replies: @Dignan
    Interestingly, Carter talked about Toback on Bill Simmons' podcast last week (prior to the LAT article). I think it was in response to questions about Harvey and he recounted Spy's takedown of Toback in the 80s (he said something like "Toback spent his days standing in front of Zabar's hitting on women and telling them that he was a film director who went to Harvard"). Nothing about the more lurid allegations some of which were included in Spy articles.

    Carter and Simmons seem made for each other - each with huge self regard who came up attacking the powers that be (Spy and pre-ESPN Simmons) then getting major media jobs and becoming sycophants to Hollywood and pro athletes.
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  4. AndrewR says:

    Not that I sympathize with him, “Winesteen” or O’Reilly, but it would be nice if TPTB could destroy the reputations of less geriatric fellows. I mean, even if you’re 70 years old, it sucks to have this happen, but you’ve had a good run and now you have an excuse to enjoy the relaxing retirement you’ve been putting off.

    I really want to see the careers of younger scumbags like Ben Affleck, Louis CK, Steve Colbert and Seth Meyers ended prematurely.

    Throw in some homosexuals like John Legend and Trevor Noah while we’re at it. We need more men like Terry Crews and Corey Feldman to speak out against the homosexual predators. It seems to be easier for women to accuse men.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Ben Affleck has a major feature out soon, where he is Batman or something. Hundreds of millions already spent. Would be quite nice to see it destroyed by a feminist and right-wing boycott.

    I would be hesitant to say that Trevor Noah is gay, perhaps he is bisexual, but he likely rogered a certain "conservative" professional blonde woman that appeared on his show.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Isn't Steve Colbert homosexual? I don't have any inside dope and don't watch whatever his show is; he just looks really gay.
    , @L Woods
    Joss Wheadon next. Please let that arch-feminist slimeball be next. It's the only thing I want for the next ten Christmases.
    , @ThreeCranes
    Steve Colbert?

    How do you ruin the career of someone who has no shame? And whose fans adore him for that?
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    Does anyone actually think that Trevor Noah is funny? I've only seen his commercials, and I can't even get past that annoying accent of his. All I hear is "mush mush mush Trump mush mush Trump mush mush".
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  5. Kirt says:

    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn’t stop with Weinstein and it won’t with Toback. Before it’s over some innocent people and some very minor sinners will be unjustifiably punished. That’s a bad thing which happens in all witch hunts. On the other hand, Hollywood idolatry will take a hit just as flag and pigskin idolatry have. And that’s a very good thing.

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    • Replies: @IHTG

    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn’t stop with Weinstein and it won’t with Toback.
     
    NeoGAF!
    , @Nico
    I'm not certain the witch hunt will get that far. The Trump victory exposed among other thing a significant amount of Intersectional Fatigue. The #metoo hashtag has inspired quite a bit of eye-rolling among the men I know and for a good reason: for at least six years now we've been treated to almost daily insinuations in the press that if we're not rapists or sexual offenders one of the guys in our close circle of friends almost certainly is. Just last night a female friend of 17 years told me, flat out, that any of my male friends who made light of that hash tag are not good people and when I begged to differ she said they might be good to me but probably not in general.

    Really, what self-respecting man could possibly take that sentiment seriously? I shrugged it off: I know by now there is no point arguing about such things. In the age of social media enough women are willing to flash the purely "feminine" sphere publicly in mixed company that I just leave it to them. (That by the way is the best way to win female attention: if they think you're not paying enough to them they'll up the ante.)

    But the point is, if enough important men lose interest in the witch hunt (and I suspect many of them will quickly realize they will get caught in their own webs if it goes on too long/hard) the SJW Dianas' bankrolling could dry up pretty fast.
    , @Claude

    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn’t stop with Weinstein and it won’t with Toback. Before it’s over some innocent people and some very minor sinners will be unjustifiably punished.
     
    I don't get that impression with Toback. I kind of just see this as the powers that be giving a head to the mob before someone important gets brought down in the "hunt".
    , @Anon
    Hollywood used to enjoy Assover, the passover of sexual harassment. Because of its Libby politics, its men could do things that others(esp conservatives) could not. So, PC passed over so much of bad behavior in Hollywood.

    But it looks like Assover isn't working so well. All the pinches and grabbed asses are now so butt-hurt and out for blood.

    This is potentially more explosive than so-called 'sexism' in Silicon Valley. Valley has lots of money but not much glamour. If anything, nerds and geeks with computers is anti-glamour.
    But even nerds and geeks in the movie industry got the glam thing by association. They work with 'stars', so they could attract all sorts of people.

    Also, Hollywood attracts bimbos in ways that Silicon Valley doesn't. Bimbos dream of becoming of stars, discover how difficult it is, and put out. But no bimbo goes to the Valley to get famous... even though, if they tried, they might actually do better by hooking up with some geek.
    Maybe that's a solution. Tell the bimbos in the fruited plains to go to the Silly than to Holly. In Silly Valley, they won't be stars but they might hook up with some affluent dork. In Holly, they will just be grabbed by dorks who don't care.
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  6. dearieme says:

    “whichever Clinton is on the ballot is a blow …”: I saw that!

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  7. Danindc says:

    Steve, in fairness to Jim Brown, when he was doing those terrible things to women, he was high on PCP at the time….

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    PCP is really a helluva drug.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    What are you talking about? Many of these stories go back to when he was still in the NFL and vs his first wife. It didn't start with OJ. If there's one reason some suspect that domestic violence in the NFL goes back farther in time than imagined, it's most likely because of the widely known stories concerning Jim Brown. Of course, very few other NFLers from this era are talked about in the same way, but being one of the NFL's all time greatest players has probably lent credence to the idea that domestic violence in football has been going on for a long time.
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  8. Speaking of Spy magazine, it was, in my opinion, the best magazine ever. There have been other great magazines, but the cherry on top that made Spy the best was “Our Un-British Crossword Puzzle”, composed, with witty commentary, by Roy Blount Jr. Unz Review needs an entertaining, challenging puzzle—maybe a cryptic crossword, or a cryptogram like the old Saturday Review (theirs were composed by Thomas H. Middleton.)

    By the way, old issues of Spy can be read on Google Books, but that Toback article is missing from the March 1989 issue.

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    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    National Review used to have cryptograms, but theirs were way too easy. I could figure them out in my head, without touching pen to paper.
    , @Steve Sailer
    A guy who worked for me in the early 1990s was the son of the publisher of Spy. We pleasantly wasted a lot of time talking about his dad's magazine.
    , @Steve Sailer
    A guy who worked for me in the early 1990s was the son of the publisher of Spy. We pleasantly wasted a lot of time talking about his dad's magazine. I think Spy went broke right after our employer did.
    , @ex-banker
    Graydon Carter was on the Bill Simmons podcast last week. The discussion about Spy was the only part worth listening to. Thank God for 2.25 playback speed and the FF button.
    , @the one they call Desanex
    I’m so embarrassed! Saturday Review had double-crostic puzzles by Thomas H. Middleton, not cryptograms.
    , @njguy73
    As a cynical Gen-X teen in the late '80s, Spy was my Bible. Favorite moments:

    - The Ten Dumbest Members of Congress
    - printing Madonna's college transcript
    - 1,000 Reasons Not To Vote for George Bush (1992)
    - 1,000 Reasons The O.J. Trial Is The Worst Thing Ever

    No one was safe from them. They dissed Times editor A.M. Rosenthal, and also dubbed Donald Trump "short-fingered vulgarian."
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  9. @DCThrowback
    James Toback harrassing 38 women is interesting, sure; but Elie Weisel being accused of being a tushy-toucher is just plain reprllent.

    https://t.co/ykQhcYnmjX

    Seidman argues that the Yiddish version [of Weisel's Night] was for Jewish readers, who wanted to hear about revenge, but the anger was removed for the largely Christian readership of the French translation. In the Yiddish edition, for example, when Buchenwald was liberated: “Early the next day Jewish boys ran off to Weimar to steal clothing and potatoes. And to rape German shiksas [un tsu fargvaldikn daytshe shikses].” In the 1958 French and 1960 English editions: “On the following morning, some of the young men went to Weimar to get some potatoes and clothes—and to sleep with girls [coucher avec des filles]. But of revenge, not a sign.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_(book)#Moshe_the_Beadle

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    • Agree: DCThrowback
    • Replies: @Alden
    "Early the next day Jewish boys ran off to Weimar"

    I thought they were so weak with hunger and disease and starvation and torture that they just lay on the ground, ribs, collar bones and stick arms and legs exposed for the photographers. They were so starved and weak they couldn't even sit up according to the propaganda.
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  10. @the one they call Desanex
    Speaking of Spy magazine, it was, in my opinion, the best magazine ever. There have been other great magazines, but the cherry on top that made Spy the best was “Our Un-British Crossword Puzzle”, composed, with witty commentary, by Roy Blount Jr. Unz Review needs an entertaining, challenging puzzle—maybe a cryptic crossword, or a cryptogram like the old Saturday Review (theirs were composed by Thomas H. Middleton.)

    By the way, old issues of Spy can be read on Google Books, but that Toback article is missing from the March 1989 issue.

    National Review used to have cryptograms, but theirs were way too easy. I could figure them out in my head, without touching pen to paper.

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    Sorry. National Review had double-crostic puzzles, not cryptograms, and yes, I could figure them out in my head.
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  11. Maj. Kong says:
    @AndrewR
    Not that I sympathize with him, "Winesteen" or O'Reilly, but it would be nice if TPTB could destroy the reputations of less geriatric fellows. I mean, even if you're 70 years old, it sucks to have this happen, but you've had a good run and now you have an excuse to enjoy the relaxing retirement you've been putting off.

    I really want to see the careers of younger scumbags like Ben Affleck, Louis CK, Steve Colbert and Seth Meyers ended prematurely.

    Throw in some homosexuals like John Legend and Trevor Noah while we're at it. We need more men like Terry Crews and Corey Feldman to speak out against the homosexual predators. It seems to be easier for women to accuse men.

    Ben Affleck has a major feature out soon, where he is Batman or something. Hundreds of millions already spent. Would be quite nice to see it destroyed by a feminist and right-wing boycott.

    I would be hesitant to say that Trevor Noah is gay, perhaps he is bisexual, but he likely rogered a certain “conservative” professional blonde woman that appeared on his show.

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    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Daniel H
    >>I would be hesitant to say that Trevor Noah is gay, perhaps he is bisexual,

    Concerning men, bisexual is gay, that is, homosexual. There is no such thing as bisexuality among men. Women are a different matter.
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  12. @AndrewR
    Not that I sympathize with him, "Winesteen" or O'Reilly, but it would be nice if TPTB could destroy the reputations of less geriatric fellows. I mean, even if you're 70 years old, it sucks to have this happen, but you've had a good run and now you have an excuse to enjoy the relaxing retirement you've been putting off.

    I really want to see the careers of younger scumbags like Ben Affleck, Louis CK, Steve Colbert and Seth Meyers ended prematurely.

    Throw in some homosexuals like John Legend and Trevor Noah while we're at it. We need more men like Terry Crews and Corey Feldman to speak out against the homosexual predators. It seems to be easier for women to accuse men.

    Isn’t Steve Colbert homosexual? I don’t have any inside dope and don’t watch whatever his show is; he just looks really gay.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    It wouldn't surprise me if he is, but Noah strikes me as more obviously gay.
    , @ScarletNumber
    Colbert has been married 24 years and has 3 children. I concede this doesn't make him straight per se.
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  13. @the one they call Desanex
    Speaking of Spy magazine, it was, in my opinion, the best magazine ever. There have been other great magazines, but the cherry on top that made Spy the best was “Our Un-British Crossword Puzzle”, composed, with witty commentary, by Roy Blount Jr. Unz Review needs an entertaining, challenging puzzle—maybe a cryptic crossword, or a cryptogram like the old Saturday Review (theirs were composed by Thomas H. Middleton.)

    By the way, old issues of Spy can be read on Google Books, but that Toback article is missing from the March 1989 issue.

    A guy who worked for me in the early 1990s was the son of the publisher of Spy. We pleasantly wasted a lot of time talking about his dad’s magazine.

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  14. @the one they call Desanex
    Speaking of Spy magazine, it was, in my opinion, the best magazine ever. There have been other great magazines, but the cherry on top that made Spy the best was “Our Un-British Crossword Puzzle”, composed, with witty commentary, by Roy Blount Jr. Unz Review needs an entertaining, challenging puzzle—maybe a cryptic crossword, or a cryptogram like the old Saturday Review (theirs were composed by Thomas H. Middleton.)

    By the way, old issues of Spy can be read on Google Books, but that Toback article is missing from the March 1989 issue.

    A guy who worked for me in the early 1990s was the son of the publisher of Spy. We pleasantly wasted a lot of time talking about his dad’s magazine. I think Spy went broke right after our employer did.

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    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    Back in the late 80's and early 90's I would anxiously await every new issue. Some of the better recurring features I can recall: The Walter Monheit Capsule Reviews. Separated at Birth. And Joe Queenan's "Admit It, It Sucks"...which excoriated a variety of secular, culturally sacred subjects, my favorite being Jazz. I loved their annual 50 Worst List, which, one year, had an added bonus to a variety of unpleasant subjects: a "Trump Score" which included a Trump element that was supposed to prove that Trump was so odious and awful any connection to any subject added negative value. Another funny article I recall was a prank involving a supposedly 15-year-old girl in which the girl called Wilt Chamberlain and expressed her admiration for the famously promiscuous athlete and during which he made plain his desire to get her into bed. Spy wasn't terribly PC. (See the aforementioned "Jazz" article). Spy was also how I learned just what a reprllent sicko Chuck Berry was.
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  15. @Danindc
    Steve, in fairness to Jim Brown, when he was doing those terrible things to women, he was high on PCP at the time....

    PCP is really a helluva drug.

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    PCP is really a helluva drug.
     
    It really was a scourge in the 70s, definitely messed up a few friends of mine. Or was the thing they found upon which to mess themselves, maybe it would have been something else.

    But yeah, what ever happened to PCP?
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  16. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Wonder what Brett Ratner is up to about now?

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  17. DFH says:
    @DCThrowback
    James Toback harrassing 38 women is interesting, sure; but Elie Weisel being accused of being a tushy-toucher is just plain reprllent.

    https://t.co/ykQhcYnmjX

    Oy vey! Who would have thought that a Jew could be both a liar and a molestor!

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  18. AndrewR says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Isn't Steve Colbert homosexual? I don't have any inside dope and don't watch whatever his show is; he just looks really gay.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if he is, but Noah strikes me as more obviously gay.

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  19. Steve-O says:

    (((James Toback))) played Professor Hassan Al-Ibrahim Ben Rabinowitz in the mostly awful film When Will I Be Loved. The best scene is where Neve Campbell brutally shoots down is clumsy and pretentious attempts to get in her knickers.

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  20. IHTG says:
    @Kirt
    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn't stop with Weinstein and it won't with Toback. Before it's over some innocent people and some very minor sinners will be unjustifiably punished. That's a bad thing which happens in all witch hunts. On the other hand, Hollywood idolatry will take a hit just as flag and pigskin idolatry have. And that's a very good thing.

    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn’t stop with Weinstein and it won’t with Toback.

    NeoGAF!

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    What is NeoGAF?
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  21. @IHTG

    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn’t stop with Weinstein and it won’t with Toback.
     
    NeoGAF!

    What is NeoGAF?

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/22/16516592/neogaf-tyler-malka-evilore-allegations-shutdown
    , @MEH 0910
    NeoGAF Goes Dark After Sexual Misconduct Allegation Against Owner

    The influential gaming forum NeoGAF is imploding in the wake of an accusation of sexual misconduct against the long-running site’s owner. Yesterday, around a dozen of NeoGAF’s moderators—more than half, according to two sources—quit their posts there, and the website has been down for over half a day following a string of threads in which users requested bans, flooded the forums with angry posts, and declared that they were quitting.
     

    The mass exodus was spurred by a Facebook post last Tuesday by film director Ima Leupp. The post, a part of the millions-strong #MeToo phenomenon that has women speaking out about personal instances of sexual harassment, described a trip Leupp says she took with NeoGAF owner Tyler “Evilore” Malka two years ago. Although she originally did not name Malka, she later posted in the comments of her thread that interested parties should “google Evilore.” She said that while she and Malka, who was her friend, were drinking together in a New Orleans hotel room in April 2015, she became very sick. Then, she says, Malka came up behind her in the shower without her consent. She says she told him to get the hell out.

    She wrote: “I was throwing up and decided to hop in the shower to feel better. I was surprised when he got into the shower, fully naked behind me. I had a boyfriend at the time and didn’t think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. I didn’t cheat.” The post was screencapped and has been shared widely over the past few days.


    In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”


    Leupp’s post added to growing dissent among the NeoGAF community about an apparent disconnect between Malka’s progressive internet presence and his statements and behavior around issues of sexual misconduct. The forum’s politics are colored by Malka’s support of progressive topics such as the Paris Agreement and gay marriage. He has donated thousands to organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union. Malka is also vocally anti-GamerGate and has expressed support for its female victims.

    In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon, while another said they were moderated for supporting the #BelieveWomen movement, which promotes trusting women who say they have been harassed. The bans provoked dissent among the community about whether those seemingly unilateral decisions are warranted or okay.
     
    , @Anonymous
    NeoGAF is a sort of tony, elitist, and extremely liberal orthodox videogame website. Big names in the videogame industry post there, not just fans. It's a nexus of what the GamerGate consumer revolt was in opposition to. I'm not sure what the best point of comparison in the non-manchild world is. Anyway, one of their moderators was arrested for child pornography earlier this year, and then in the past few weeks the owner of the site was accused of sexual assualt as a direct result of the Harvey Weinstein imbroglio. The staff immediately resigned en masse and it looks like the site will close.
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  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I don’t know if he harasses AMW’s with as much guileless Ivy League persistence as Toback did, but Henry Jaglom was another renowned-but-irritating director good at drawing magazine notices. With the Internet killing print media it’s becoming a scandal to be an average PR-goosing hack– what is Hollywood coming to

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  23. peterike says:

    And queue up the Every. Single. Time. guy in 3, 2,….

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    When the Anti-Anti-Semites are beating the Anti-Semites to the punch it says something about who is really the instigator.
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    What is NeoGAF?
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  25. BB753 says:

    This is where you can find all the juicy inside information about show business:

    https://blindgossip.com/

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    This is where you can find all the juicy inside information about show business:
     
    Don't bother. Clickbait teasers posted sporadically, months apart.
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  26. Dignan says:
    @slumber_j
    A friend of mine and I were discussing this very subject last night and trying to figure out how the press was managing to gin up shock about something that was covered extensively in the press in the 1980s. Working hypothesis: round upon round of newsroom RIF-ing has left us a residue of low-earning journalists who have never heard of James Toback and were years away from even being conceived in the 1980s.

    Bonus subject to ponder in this case: What Will Graydon Carter Do?

    As founder and head honcho at Spy, he turned Toback's behavior into an evergreen object of ridicule at that magazine. That was what Spy was for, after all. But in the end Condé Nast called, so he had to turn on a dime and spend the rest of his professional life fawning over the very same people.

    Does he point out that he scooped the universe decades ago on this shocking Toback news--one last feather in his cap before he goes off to organize ladies' luncheons like Tina Brown or whatever? Or does he avoid the subject altogether so that nobody notices his...remarkable career transformation? Either way: Fun!!

    Interestingly, Carter talked about Toback on Bill Simmons’ podcast last week (prior to the LAT article). I think it was in response to questions about Harvey and he recounted Spy‘s takedown of Toback in the 80s (he said something like “Toback spent his days standing in front of Zabar’s hitting on women and telling them that he was a film director who went to Harvard”). Nothing about the more lurid allegations some of which were included in Spy articles.

    Carter and Simmons seem made for each other – each with huge self regard who came up attacking the powers that be (Spy and pre-ESPN Simmons) then getting major media jobs and becoming sycophants to Hollywood and pro athletes.

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    That's interesting. And good point about the similarities between the two men.
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  27. @BB753
    This is where you can find all the juicy inside information about show business:

    https://blindgossip.com/

    This is where you can find all the juicy inside information about show business:

    Don’t bother. Clickbait teasers posted sporadically, months apart.

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  28. Nico says:
    @Kirt
    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn't stop with Weinstein and it won't with Toback. Before it's over some innocent people and some very minor sinners will be unjustifiably punished. That's a bad thing which happens in all witch hunts. On the other hand, Hollywood idolatry will take a hit just as flag and pigskin idolatry have. And that's a very good thing.

    I’m not certain the witch hunt will get that far. The Trump victory exposed among other thing a significant amount of Intersectional Fatigue. The #metoo hashtag has inspired quite a bit of eye-rolling among the men I know and for a good reason: for at least six years now we’ve been treated to almost daily insinuations in the press that if we’re not rapists or sexual offenders one of the guys in our close circle of friends almost certainly is. Just last night a female friend of 17 years told me, flat out, that any of my male friends who made light of that hash tag are not good people and when I begged to differ she said they might be good to me but probably not in general.

    Really, what self-respecting man could possibly take that sentiment seriously? I shrugged it off: I know by now there is no point arguing about such things. In the age of social media enough women are willing to flash the purely “feminine” sphere publicly in mixed company that I just leave it to them. (That by the way is the best way to win female attention: if they think you’re not paying enough to them they’ll up the ante.)

    But the point is, if enough important men lose interest in the witch hunt (and I suspect many of them will quickly realize they will get caught in their own webs if it goes on too long/hard) the SJW Dianas’ bankrolling could dry up pretty fast.

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    The only men who "care" are a) guilty pigs who need cover, b) homosexuals, c) beta males under the misapprehension that seeming to care will help get them laid.
    "What have you done for me lately" goes both ways.
    , @MarcB.
    (That by the way is the best way to win female attention: if they think you’re not paying enough to them they’ll up the ante.)

    The better looking a young woman is, the more accustomed she has become to a significant amount of male attention. When it is in short supply, their behavior will change in an effort to acquire it, even from males that don't quite measure up.

    The handsome, confident and successful guys they typically date only have so much of it to give, so they will seek it from service staff and the like. Guys often misinterpret this for genuine attraction instead of attention whoring, but on occasion an average guy who is visibly underwhelmed by a hot female presents a challenge that can spark attraction where none existed previously.
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  29. jill says:

    Age 10?

    The most famous is Roman Polanski, whom artist Marianne Barnard has now accused of raping her at the age of ten, during a beach photo shoot with the vague premise of some kind of magazine spread. She told the Sun Online:

    “First he was taking pictures of me in the bikini, then it was with the coat then he said take off the bikini top, which I was comfortable with as I was only 10 and I often ran around with no top on.

    “But then he wanted me to take my bikini bottoms off – I started to feel very uncomfortable. Then at some point I realized my mom had gone. I don’t know where she went and I didn’t really register her leaving but she was no longer there. Then he molested me.”
    That now adds up to five women who have accused Polanski of sexually assaulting them as minors, including former actress Renate Langer when she was 15, British actress Charlotte Lewis when she was 16, a woman identified as “Robin M.” when she was 16. Barnard, the latest accuser, has started a petition for the Academy to kick him out, as they did to Weinstein last week.

    https://jezebel.com/heres-another-sweep-of-sexual-assault-allegations-from-1819752727

    Over 100 In Film Community Sign Polanski Petition
    AFP is reporting that a grand assembly of filmmakers, actors and producers from around the world have signed a petition urging the release of director Roman Polanski, who was arrested Sunday in Switzerland on a warrant for a 1977 underage sex case in the United States.

    http://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/

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    I'm surprised that Brooke Shields hasn't come up in discussions of sexually exploited child stars.
    https://youtu.be/oOPSxllUDw8
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  30. Alden says:
    @Mikey Darmody

    Seidman argues that the Yiddish version [of Weisel's Night] was for Jewish readers, who wanted to hear about revenge, but the anger was removed for the largely Christian readership of the French translation. In the Yiddish edition, for example, when Buchenwald was liberated: "Early the next day Jewish boys ran off to Weimar to steal clothing and potatoes. And to rape German shiksas [un tsu fargvaldikn daytshe shikses]." In the 1958 French and 1960 English editions: "On the following morning, some of the young men went to Weimar to get some potatoes and clothes—and to sleep with girls [coucher avec des filles]. But of revenge, not a sign."
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_(book)#Moshe_the_Beadle

    “Early the next day Jewish boys ran off to Weimar”

    I thought they were so weak with hunger and disease and starvation and torture that they just lay on the ground, ribs, collar bones and stick arms and legs exposed for the photographers. They were so starved and weak they couldn’t even sit up according to the propaganda.

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    And one thing about deprivation is that it really kills erectile function. I've read that people doing special ops training courses don't even get morning wood anymore and women in those situations stop menstruating.
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  31. @Steve Sailer
    A guy who worked for me in the early 1990s was the son of the publisher of Spy. We pleasantly wasted a lot of time talking about his dad's magazine. I think Spy went broke right after our employer did.

    Back in the late 80′s and early 90′s I would anxiously await every new issue. Some of the better recurring features I can recall: The Walter Monheit Capsule Reviews. Separated at Birth. And Joe Queenan’s “Admit It, It Sucks”…which excoriated a variety of secular, culturally sacred subjects, my favorite being Jazz. I loved their annual 50 Worst List, which, one year, had an added bonus to a variety of unpleasant subjects: a “Trump Score” which included a Trump element that was supposed to prove that Trump was so odious and awful any connection to any subject added negative value. Another funny article I recall was a prank involving a supposedly 15-year-old girl in which the girl called Wilt Chamberlain and expressed her admiration for the famously promiscuous athlete and during which he made plain his desire to get her into bed. Spy wasn’t terribly PC. (See the aforementioned “Jazz” article). Spy was also how I learned just what a reprllent sicko Chuck Berry was.

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  32. MEH 0910 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    What is NeoGAF?

    NeoGAF Goes Dark After Sexual Misconduct Allegation Against Owner

    The influential gaming forum NeoGAF is imploding in the wake of an accusation of sexual misconduct against the long-running site’s owner. Yesterday, around a dozen of NeoGAF’s moderators—more than half, according to two sources—quit their posts there, and the website has been down for over half a day following a string of threads in which users requested bans, flooded the forums with angry posts, and declared that they were quitting.

    [MORE]

    The mass exodus was spurred by a Facebook post last Tuesday by film director Ima Leupp. The post, a part of the millions-strong #MeToo phenomenon that has women speaking out about personal instances of sexual harassment, described a trip Leupp says she took with NeoGAF owner Tyler “Evilore” Malka two years ago. Although she originally did not name Malka, she later posted in the comments of her thread that interested parties should “google Evilore.” She said that while she and Malka, who was her friend, were drinking together in a New Orleans hotel room in April 2015, she became very sick. Then, she says, Malka came up behind her in the shower without her consent. She says she told him to get the hell out.

    She wrote: “I was throwing up and decided to hop in the shower to feel better. I was surprised when he got into the shower, fully naked behind me. I had a boyfriend at the time and didn’t think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. I didn’t cheat.” The post was screencapped and has been shared widely over the past few days.

    In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

    Leupp’s post added to growing dissent among the NeoGAF community about an apparent disconnect between Malka’s progressive internet presence and his statements and behavior around issues of sexual misconduct. The forum’s politics are colored by Malka’s support of progressive topics such as the Paris Agreement and gay marriage. He has donated thousands to organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union. Malka is also vocally anti-GamerGate and has expressed support for its female victims.

    In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon, while another said they were moderated for supporting the #BelieveWomen movement, which promotes trusting women who say they have been harassed. The bans provoked dissent among the community about whether those seemingly unilateral decisions are warranted or okay.

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  33. Nico says:
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    Afraid not.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/opinion/lupita-nyongo-harvey-weinstein.html
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  34. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    His wikipedia claims he took an extremely high dose of LSD (8 day trip) that caused him to lose his sense of fear. This was at Harvard presumably with Timothy Leary since the time period matches up (1966).

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  35. anonguy says:
    @Steve Sailer
    PCP is really a helluva drug.

    PCP is really a helluva drug.

    It really was a scourge in the 70s, definitely messed up a few friends of mine. Or was the thing they found upon which to mess themselves, maybe it would have been something else.

    But yeah, what ever happened to PCP?

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  36. mobi says:

    By the way, is a preference for cornering female near-strangers, dropping your pants, and masturbating in front of them ‘a thing’, or just a (((thing)))?

    Let’s conduct a survey. I have three examples, so far:

    1) (((Jabba Weinstein)))

    2) an unnamed Hollywood big-wig (((producer))), targeting Kathie Lee Gifford:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4963526/Kathie-Lee-Gifford-forced-watch-producer-masturbate.html

    3) Uber-feminist liberal and bad-white mocker (((Louis CK))):

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/louis-ck-confronts-sexual-misconduct-rumors_us_59b7b3ade4b09be41657e3e9

    I have an open mind about this.

    4) (((James Toback)))

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5005765/Thirty-women-accuse-James-Toback-sexual-harassment.html

    Ok, in fairness, he might be 2)

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    If you want to know who Toback's closest friends are:

    http://takimag.com/article/toback_redux_taki_theodoracopulos/print#axzz4wOT9lzRS

    'The beautiful girls were all ears. It was a typical Toback evening.'

    That's what Taki (age 81) said.

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  37. Claude says:
    @Kirt
    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn't stop with Weinstein and it won't with Toback. Before it's over some innocent people and some very minor sinners will be unjustifiably punished. That's a bad thing which happens in all witch hunts. On the other hand, Hollywood idolatry will take a hit just as flag and pigskin idolatry have. And that's a very good thing.

    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn’t stop with Weinstein and it won’t with Toback. Before it’s over some innocent people and some very minor sinners will be unjustifiably punished.

    I don’t get that impression with Toback. I kind of just see this as the powers that be giving a head to the mob before someone important gets brought down in the “hunt”.

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  38. Tulip says:

    Alas, no respect given for the dead:

    https://medium.com/@jblistman/when-i-was-nineteen-years-old-elie-wiesel-grabbed-my-ass-10370829c4bd

    At the same time, the hatred and misogyny of the Alt-Right, which effectively rapes the minds of all who encounter it is far far worse the personal foibles of progressive men, who despite personal setbacks are fighting for a new progressive world of Equality.

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    God, I laughed so hard at that article! I fully believe secular saint Wiesel grabbed someone's ass, but I do not think he sinned terribly in doing so. I look forward to the "Pope John Paul II suggestively rubbed his prayer beads while watching me when he was a priest" articles.
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  39. In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood. At least one biography has been written detailing his escapades, yet he seems to skate without much noticing by the MSM.

    Is Toback related to the actor who played Mel on TV’s Alice? Maybe that’s Vic Tayback. The back’s are confusing.

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    In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood.
     
    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    They are creepy guys, even with all their money/fame (except maybe Toback), they have to be unduly pressuring women for sex rather than the women jumping on them.

    Women don't like creepy guys and these guys were all creeps who got an angle and exploited women with it rather than being studly guys who had a healthy sexual appetite. The potted plants, weird phones sex, frottage, etc.

    These guys are perverts and that is why all the women are coming out against them when the moment presented itself. It is why guys like Clinton, Wilt Chamberlain, etc, don't go down. Women don't view them as creepy.

    Again, the best defense against sexual harassment claims is to be attractive.

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  40. @Danindc
    Steve, in fairness to Jim Brown, when he was doing those terrible things to women, he was high on PCP at the time....

    What are you talking about? Many of these stories go back to when he was still in the NFL and vs his first wife. It didn’t start with OJ. If there’s one reason some suspect that domestic violence in the NFL goes back farther in time than imagined, it’s most likely because of the widely known stories concerning Jim Brown. Of course, very few other NFLers from this era are talked about in the same way, but being one of the NFL’s all time greatest players has probably lent credence to the idea that domestic violence in football has been going on for a long time.

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    I think Dan was thinking of James Brown (a natural confusion since he was mentioned in the previous post).

    Jim Brown is presumably also a James but was never billed that way.
    , @Johnny789
    I remember some NFL guy in the 60's was stabbed to death by his abused wife while he was sleeping. I think he had a girl's first name.
    , @David In TN
    The first news story about Jim Brown assaulting a woman was in the spring of 1965, just before his last season. The woman was not his wife. He beat the rap.

    it will surprise people that before the above charge, Jim Brown had a very positive public image. After leaving football in 1966, divorcing his first wife and going into acting full time, several more incidents occurred.
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  41. L Woods says:
    @AndrewR
    Not that I sympathize with him, "Winesteen" or O'Reilly, but it would be nice if TPTB could destroy the reputations of less geriatric fellows. I mean, even if you're 70 years old, it sucks to have this happen, but you've had a good run and now you have an excuse to enjoy the relaxing retirement you've been putting off.

    I really want to see the careers of younger scumbags like Ben Affleck, Louis CK, Steve Colbert and Seth Meyers ended prematurely.

    Throw in some homosexuals like John Legend and Trevor Noah while we're at it. We need more men like Terry Crews and Corey Feldman to speak out against the homosexual predators. It seems to be easier for women to accuse men.

    Joss Wheadon next. Please let that arch-feminist slimeball be next. It’s the only thing I want for the next ten Christmases.

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    Wasn't he already accused? Seems to have gone up in smoke.
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  42. res says:
    @peterike
    And queue up the Every. Single. Time. guy in 3, 2,....

    When the Anti-Anti-Semites are beating the Anti-Semites to the punch it says something about who is really the instigator.

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    I totally don't understand that. Can you unravel it for me?
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  43. Corvinus says:

    “In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a major manipulator of the culture to build today’s moral consensus that a vote for whichever Clinton is on the ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world.”

    Corrected for accuracy –> In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a contributor of the American culture to build today’s moral consensus, highlighted in part by the hypocrisy of evangelicals and leftists, that a vote for Clinton or Trump or other politicians on a ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world.

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    In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a contributor of the American culture to build today’s moral consensus, highlighted in part by the hypocrisy of evangelicals and leftists, that a vote for Clinton or Trump or other politicians on a ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world.
     
    From what you stated previously, you've gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein. Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad.

    Where are your award winning movies telling us everyone is wrong but you? You did the sleeping around bit. It seems like the movies should just flow now.
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  44. Tulip says:

    Maybe we need to quantify the Progressive Male Advantage.

    You maybe should get 5 free rapes and 50 free gropes before the Enlightened Ones turn on you. [Ben, we love you!]

    This would be sure to bring in more male feminists and progressive male politicians, and it seems more or less de facto what you have to do to get called out for being a perv by the MSM and the Progressive Harpies anyways–if you are on the right side. The Winning Side. The Side of History!

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  45. @AndrewR
    Not that I sympathize with him, "Winesteen" or O'Reilly, but it would be nice if TPTB could destroy the reputations of less geriatric fellows. I mean, even if you're 70 years old, it sucks to have this happen, but you've had a good run and now you have an excuse to enjoy the relaxing retirement you've been putting off.

    I really want to see the careers of younger scumbags like Ben Affleck, Louis CK, Steve Colbert and Seth Meyers ended prematurely.

    Throw in some homosexuals like John Legend and Trevor Noah while we're at it. We need more men like Terry Crews and Corey Feldman to speak out against the homosexual predators. It seems to be easier for women to accuse men.

    Steve Colbert?

    How do you ruin the career of someone who has no shame? And whose fans adore him for that?

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  46. @AndrewR
    Not that I sympathize with him, "Winesteen" or O'Reilly, but it would be nice if TPTB could destroy the reputations of less geriatric fellows. I mean, even if you're 70 years old, it sucks to have this happen, but you've had a good run and now you have an excuse to enjoy the relaxing retirement you've been putting off.

    I really want to see the careers of younger scumbags like Ben Affleck, Louis CK, Steve Colbert and Seth Meyers ended prematurely.

    Throw in some homosexuals like John Legend and Trevor Noah while we're at it. We need more men like Terry Crews and Corey Feldman to speak out against the homosexual predators. It seems to be easier for women to accuse men.

    Does anyone actually think that Trevor Noah is funny? I’ve only seen his commercials, and I can’t even get past that annoying accent of his. All I hear is “mush mush mush Trump mush mush Trump mush mush”.

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    Noah is so astoundingly unfunny that I think The Daily Show must be a money laundering operation. That and/or it's one of those "the emperor wears no clothes" things where all the Goodthinkers are afraid to point out the obvious lest they be labeled racist and bad.
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  47. ex-banker says:
    @the one they call Desanex
    Speaking of Spy magazine, it was, in my opinion, the best magazine ever. There have been other great magazines, but the cherry on top that made Spy the best was “Our Un-British Crossword Puzzle”, composed, with witty commentary, by Roy Blount Jr. Unz Review needs an entertaining, challenging puzzle—maybe a cryptic crossword, or a cryptogram like the old Saturday Review (theirs were composed by Thomas H. Middleton.)

    By the way, old issues of Spy can be read on Google Books, but that Toback article is missing from the March 1989 issue.

    Graydon Carter was on the Bill Simmons podcast last week. The discussion about Spy was the only part worth listening to. Thank God for 2.25 playback speed and the FF button.

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    Thanks. I went right to 2:25. The Walter Monheit shout out left me cracking up. Ooof! Another date with Oscar!
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  48. MarcB. says:

    Toback has been a known quantity for decades. This story is more than a Nothing-Burger, it’s a purposeful distraction.

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    Yawn.

    Like a faithful hasbarist, you're merely trying to deflect light that is being shown on Zionist perverts.

    'Nothing to see here, keep on moving'.
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  49. Notorious Silicon Valley tech evangelist Robert Scoble joins the club. Article at Ars Technica.

    According to the photo, he is a Weinstein lookalike. That kind of irritates me. Certainly famous people looking like other famous people is a thing, but lookalike famous people being do-alikes and getting in the news almost simultaneously is a bit creepy. Feels like the deus ex machina in works of 17th-century literature where the protagonists turn out to have been separated twins. Or maybe they are leftover pod people from the set of “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” who didn’t agree to the premise that their movie should be over after about 90 minutes.

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  50. @the one they call Desanex
    Speaking of Spy magazine, it was, in my opinion, the best magazine ever. There have been other great magazines, but the cherry on top that made Spy the best was “Our Un-British Crossword Puzzle”, composed, with witty commentary, by Roy Blount Jr. Unz Review needs an entertaining, challenging puzzle—maybe a cryptic crossword, or a cryptogram like the old Saturday Review (theirs were composed by Thomas H. Middleton.)

    By the way, old issues of Spy can be read on Google Books, but that Toback article is missing from the March 1989 issue.

    I’m so embarrassed! Saturday Review had double-crostic puzzles by Thomas H. Middleton, not cryptograms.

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  51. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    What is NeoGAF?

    NeoGAF is a sort of tony, elitist, and extremely liberal orthodox videogame website. Big names in the videogame industry post there, not just fans. It’s a nexus of what the GamerGate consumer revolt was in opposition to. I’m not sure what the best point of comparison in the non-manchild world is. Anyway, one of their moderators was arrested for child pornography earlier this year, and then in the past few weeks the owner of the site was accused of sexual assualt as a direct result of the Harvey Weinstein imbroglio. The staff immediately resigned en masse and it looks like the site will close.

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  52. @the one they call Desanex
    National Review used to have cryptograms, but theirs were way too easy. I could figure them out in my head, without touching pen to paper.

    Sorry. National Review had double-crostic puzzles, not cryptograms, and yes, I could figure them out in my head.

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  53. slumber_j says:
    @Dignan
    Interestingly, Carter talked about Toback on Bill Simmons' podcast last week (prior to the LAT article). I think it was in response to questions about Harvey and he recounted Spy's takedown of Toback in the 80s (he said something like "Toback spent his days standing in front of Zabar's hitting on women and telling them that he was a film director who went to Harvard"). Nothing about the more lurid allegations some of which were included in Spy articles.

    Carter and Simmons seem made for each other - each with huge self regard who came up attacking the powers that be (Spy and pre-ESPN Simmons) then getting major media jobs and becoming sycophants to Hollywood and pro athletes.

    That’s interesting. And good point about the similarities between the two men.

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  54. AndrewR says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy
    Does anyone actually think that Trevor Noah is funny? I've only seen his commercials, and I can't even get past that annoying accent of his. All I hear is "mush mush mush Trump mush mush Trump mush mush".

    Noah is so astoundingly unfunny that I think The Daily Show must be a money laundering operation. That and/or it’s one of those “the emperor wears no clothes” things where all the Goodthinkers are afraid to point out the obvious lest they be labeled racist and bad.

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  55. @res
    When the Anti-Anti-Semites are beating the Anti-Semites to the punch it says something about who is really the instigator.

    I totally don’t understand that. Can you unravel it for me?

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    I was responding to a preemptive comment about "every single time" comments (a pretty standard type of "anti-Semitic comment" on iSteve). If one is making preemptive comments it is hard to contend the other "side" is instigating the back and forth we see here (all too often IMHO).

    "Who" was bolded because in who-whom the "who" is doing something (the subject of a verb) to the "whom" (object of the verb). Which fits in with the instigating idea.
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  56. Daniel H says:
    @Maj. Kong
    Ben Affleck has a major feature out soon, where he is Batman or something. Hundreds of millions already spent. Would be quite nice to see it destroyed by a feminist and right-wing boycott.

    I would be hesitant to say that Trevor Noah is gay, perhaps he is bisexual, but he likely rogered a certain "conservative" professional blonde woman that appeared on his show.

    >>I would be hesitant to say that Trevor Noah is gay, perhaps he is bisexual,

    Concerning men, bisexual is gay, that is, homosexual. There is no such thing as bisexuality among men. Women are a different matter.

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    Uh, Anthony Perkins.
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  57. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Louis CK.

    The interesting part is he is being attacked by Tig Notaro.

    Last month, comedian Tig Notaro urged Louis C.K. to “handle” the rumors in an interview with the Daily Beast last month.

    “I think it’s important to take care of that, to handle that, because it’s serious to be assaulted,” Notaro said. “It’s serious to be harassed. It’s serious, it’s serious, it’s serious.”

    With friends like that. Ha ha.

    Exactly how can Louis ‘handle’ this? Admit and apologize? Deny it and be accused of being a pervert and a liar?

    Commodity always pushes on boundaries and there are more than a few female comics that push the boundaries of shame and some that specialize in it.

    Louis CK has a couple of choices. Just refuse to comment or else work up an act where he performs on stage.

    Prediction: If Louis CK doesn’t, someone else will.

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  58. anonguy says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood. At least one biography has been written detailing his escapades, yet he seems to skate without much noticing by the MSM.

    Is Toback related to the actor who played Mel on TV's Alice? Maybe that's Vic Tayback. The back's are confusing.

    In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood.

    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O’Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    They are creepy guys, even with all their money/fame (except maybe Toback), they have to be unduly pressuring women for sex rather than the women jumping on them.

    Women don’t like creepy guys and these guys were all creeps who got an angle and exploited women with it rather than being studly guys who had a healthy sexual appetite. The potted plants, weird phones sex, frottage, etc.

    These guys are perverts and that is why all the women are coming out against them when the moment presented itself. It is why guys like Clinton, Wilt Chamberlain, etc, don’t go down. Women don’t view them as creepy.

    Again, the best defense against sexual harassment claims is to be attractive.

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    Yes, but then you have someone like Bill Cosby. Not fugly and not overtly creepy in public (at least back in the day when he was in his prime). So that kind of goes vs. your thesis. Also, not everyone, even those with tons of money, can make it into the top one percent of looks. They have to make due with what they have, and if having tons of money can help them, then they have to play it for all its worth. Unfortunately for these guys, they went too far.

    Also, pre his presidency, where would one put Donald Trump? Clearly he was able to land some amazing women without having to resort to subterfuge, and yet he had the bad taste to brag about it publicly.

    So basically creepy = pervert, whereas being handsome = studly and one can get away with anything with women. If Weinstein looked like Robert Redford, probably few women would've complained, even if he did the exact same things.

    And what does it say about the women who consented with a couple of these guys? That they were willing to consent to what they were being asked? (not referring to assault, obviously). The casting couch has existed before and probably will continue to exist in some form in the near future.

    , @Anon
    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O’Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    Yeah, Eastwood ran on the persona of christ of beauty. In movies like PLAY MISTY FOR ME and HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER, it's like all these unterfrau and untermensch are out to lynch him for being too beautiful. The woman in PLAY stalk him and even try to kill him unless he chooses her. And in HIGH PLAINS, those ugly guys tried to kill him. Same in HANG EM HIGH. And PALE RIDER has him come back as a handsome devil christ-figure. He undergoes Passion moment in FISTFUL OF DOLLARS and GOOD BAD UGLY too(though Passion of Tuco topped it at the hands of Angel Eyes).

    Eastwood may not have been 'enlightened' about womenfolk, but his problem was never making moves to get women. It was making moves to KEEP THEM AWAY.
    , @sabril
    I basically agree. How attractive a man is physically makes a huge difference in how his conduct (or misconduct) is perceived by women. Clint Eastwood and Donald Trump and Bill Clinton may not be Brad Pitt, but they are both sufficiently attractive that most women would not find them repulsive.
    , @Ragno

    Women don’t like creepy guys ....
     
    True dat. If poor Joe Spinnell weren't dead, he'd be getting Sabrina Rubin Erdely'd on social media just for standing there.
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  59. whoever says: • Website
    @jill
    Age 10?

    The most famous is Roman Polanski, whom artist Marianne Barnard has now accused of raping her at the age of ten, during a beach photo shoot with the vague premise of some kind of magazine spread. She told the Sun Online:

    “First he was taking pictures of me in the bikini, then it was with the coat then he said take off the bikini top, which I was comfortable with as I was only 10 and I often ran around with no top on.

    “But then he wanted me to take my bikini bottoms off - I started to feel very uncomfortable. Then at some point I realized my mom had gone. I don’t know where she went and I didn’t really register her leaving but she was no longer there. Then he molested me.”
    That now adds up to five women who have accused Polanski of sexually assaulting them as minors, including former actress Renate Langer when she was 15, British actress Charlotte Lewis when she was 16, a woman identified as “Robin M.” when she was 16. Barnard, the latest accuser, has started a petition for the Academy to kick him out, as they did to Weinstein last week.

    https://jezebel.com/heres-another-sweep-of-sexual-assault-allegations-from-1819752727


    Over 100 In Film Community Sign Polanski Petition
    AFP is reporting that a grand assembly of filmmakers, actors and producers from around the world have signed a petition urging the release of director Roman Polanski, who was arrested Sunday in Switzerland on a warrant for a 1977 underage sex case in the United States.

    http://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/

    I’m surprised that Brooke Shields hasn’t come up in discussions of sexually exploited child stars.

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    It should have been a tipoff that the New Blonde had a sapphic streak. But it was a great acolade for the young Brooke nevertheless:

    Stars live in the evening
    But the very young need the sun, uh-huh
    Pretty baby, you look so heavenly
    A neo-nebular from under the sun
    I was forming, some say I had my chance
    The boys were falling like an avalanche

    Ya ya baby
    La Dolce Vita is a magic dance
    No-one was listening
    Pretty baby, un petite ingenue
    A teenage starlet, I fell in love with you

    You, you with the comb
    You look OK in every way (every way)
    Ah, I should have known
    You'd look at me and look away (and look away - oh)

    Pretty baby, you look so heavenly
    A neo-nebular from under the sun
    Eyes that tell me incense and peppermints
    Your looks are larger than life, long live innocence
    Petite ingenue, I fell in love with you
    Pretty baby, I fell in love with you, whoah oh
    Pretty baby, oh oh
    Pretty baby, whoah oh, I fell in love with you
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDIzHa7KAE0
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  60. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    What are you talking about? Many of these stories go back to when he was still in the NFL and vs his first wife. It didn't start with OJ. If there's one reason some suspect that domestic violence in the NFL goes back farther in time than imagined, it's most likely because of the widely known stories concerning Jim Brown. Of course, very few other NFLers from this era are talked about in the same way, but being one of the NFL's all time greatest players has probably lent credence to the idea that domestic violence in football has been going on for a long time.

    I think Dan was thinking of James Brown (a natural confusion since he was mentioned in the previous post).

    Jim Brown is presumably also a James but was never billed that way.

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    He was born James Nathaniel Brown. During most of his football career, he was billed as "Jimmy Brown." He seems to have preferred "Jim," and was always billed as such in movies, but didn't make anything of it during his football days.
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  61. whorefinder says: • Website

    Nothing in any of the stories about Toback show rape or sexual assault, although a few stories are on the fringes. The stories sound like a bad name-dropping stereotype of a filmmaker trying to bed women. He was aggressive about hitting on women, which isn’t a bad thing, but his game sounds awful. If all you’ve got is your fame/position to pick-up women—and that’s all Toback seems to have relied upon—you’ve already failed.

    The humping of women’s legs in certain tales is close to assault, but the stories are vague as to under what circumstances (for example, on a date, or in his bed room), which make it sound like it could have been consensual or at least it was not some shock to the girls that he tried to make a move but instead a circumstance where they had a duty to clarify to him that no, they didn’t want to (as opposed to Weinstein, who was assaulting, raping, and exposing himself to women in his office / business meetings/restaurants and not on dates, where the women could not expect a sexual move of that caliber).

    Toback sounds like a type: a horny, name-dropping celebrity-worshiper who blatantly uses his fame and connections to bed women in a clumsly, desperate con-man manner. He feels pathetic, so he feels the need to cozy up to celebrities who are “real” men—Jim Brown, Mike Tyson, and Warren Beatty (Beatty was an all-American football player IIRC, and, in any event, is clearly a very virile straight-male alpha type, given his reputation).

    I could picture this Toback brown-nosing Beatty and Brown and telling them how great they are and fake laughing at all their jokes and then begging them to let him write a book about them or write their screenplay. Toback’s career is pretty good proof that it’s connections and not ability that get you through the film industry.

    P.S. How hilariously out of touch is Toback that he viewed a a young Robert Downey Jr. as a stand in for himself in picking up women in The Pick up Artist? Seriously, that’s like some decrepid old hag insisting that she be played by a supermodel in a contemporary bio pic about her.

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    In the early 70's, Sport Magazine turned hard left for a while. James Toback had a couple of pieces in the magazine, one was an excerpt from "Jim," his JB book.

    Toback was considered a joke when that book came out and his writing career dried up. So Toback went to Hollywood and became a film maker.
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  62. Johnny789 says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    What are you talking about? Many of these stories go back to when he was still in the NFL and vs his first wife. It didn't start with OJ. If there's one reason some suspect that domestic violence in the NFL goes back farther in time than imagined, it's most likely because of the widely known stories concerning Jim Brown. Of course, very few other NFLers from this era are talked about in the same way, but being one of the NFL's all time greatest players has probably lent credence to the idea that domestic violence in football has been going on for a long time.

    I remember some NFL guy in the 60′s was stabbed to death by his abused wife while he was sleeping. I think he had a girl’s first name.

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    Close.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blenda_Gay
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  63. Svigor says:

    (A couple of his early movies have been remade recently and did okay.)

    Man, that is a looong way to go to say something nice.

    The Weinstein Thing is the gift that keeps on giving. To the extent that it has encouraged the spirit of giving among the people.

    On the down side, the choice of gifts are starting to seem antisemitic.

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  64. Wally says:
    @MarcB.
    Toback has been a known quantity for decades. This story is more than a Nothing-Burger, it's a purposeful distraction.

    Yawn.

    Like a faithful hasbarist, you’re merely trying to deflect light that is being shown on Zionist perverts.

    ‘Nothing to see here, keep on moving’.

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    Thanks for supporting the truism that anti "Zionism" is just the politically correct term for Judenhass .
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  65. Moshe says:

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn’t fit The Narrative.

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    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn’t fit The Narrative.
     
    But since 'the Narrative' is just a mirror-image of your own, it shouldn't be that odd to you, should it?

    Of course, I don't believe that you find it odd at all.
    , @anonguy

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly.
     
    He always made my skin crawl, I thought he was completely sociopathic. I've never understood why he had the slightest popularity.

    Ugh...
    , @Mr. Anon

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?
     
    Because most people here already think O-Reilly is an ass and a tool. I can't recall anyone hereabouts having anything nice to say about him. I know I never have.

    Also, he was more circumspect in his harrassment, and was only being protected by Roger Ailes and a handful of others in the know. He didn't benefit by having his entire industry keep quiet about him.
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  66. I like the alt right and all that, but where on earth did people get the idea that Elie Wiesel was some big player that needs to be taken down. It’s just odd like if people were still trying to bring down Ken Kesey or Albert Morovia. Who gives a shit about Wiesel.

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  67. Svigor says:

    Drudge headline says:

    UBER Sex Harassment Movie in Works…

    Another gift: either Hollywood makes a Hollywood rape/harassment movie (win), or it doesn’t (win).

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    'Hunting Ground' Filmmakers Tackling Hollywood Sexual Assault Documentary

    Kirby Dick and Amy Ziering, whose last documentary The Hunting Ground focused on sexual assault on college campuses, on Monday announced their next film, another as-yet untitled sexual assault documentary.

    Predators in Hollywood, many described as being similar to Harvey Weinstein, will be the focus of the new doc, which will examine abuse and cover-ups within the entertainment industry.

    ......

    The Weinstein Co.'s Radius division distributed 2015's The Hunting Ground. In a recent guest column for The Hollywood Reporter, the filmmakers called for Weinstein's expulsion from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. The film mogul was expelled two days later.
     
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  68. Svigor says:

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn’t fit The Narrative.

    That’s not “The” Narrative, that’s “the” narrative. At iSteve. What the Tribe does in Big Media is “The” Narrative.

    Jews are so smart, but not smart enough for context.

    Speaking of The Narrative; it hasn’t gone after O’Reilly the way it’s now going after Weinstein either, has it? And there aren’t scrums of starlets coming out of the woodwork to accuse O’Reilly either, are there? In fact, the O’Reilly story gives every indication of being less interesting to everyone – you included – doesn’t it? We’ll just whistle past the obvious bit about Weinstein being a much bigger Big Media power broker than O’Reilly.

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    In fact, the O’Reilly story gives every indication of being less interesting to everyone – you included – doesn’t it?
     
    $32M is rape rape money.
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  69. Old Left says:
    @Nico
    I'm not certain the witch hunt will get that far. The Trump victory exposed among other thing a significant amount of Intersectional Fatigue. The #metoo hashtag has inspired quite a bit of eye-rolling among the men I know and for a good reason: for at least six years now we've been treated to almost daily insinuations in the press that if we're not rapists or sexual offenders one of the guys in our close circle of friends almost certainly is. Just last night a female friend of 17 years told me, flat out, that any of my male friends who made light of that hash tag are not good people and when I begged to differ she said they might be good to me but probably not in general.

    Really, what self-respecting man could possibly take that sentiment seriously? I shrugged it off: I know by now there is no point arguing about such things. In the age of social media enough women are willing to flash the purely "feminine" sphere publicly in mixed company that I just leave it to them. (That by the way is the best way to win female attention: if they think you're not paying enough to them they'll up the ante.)

    But the point is, if enough important men lose interest in the witch hunt (and I suspect many of them will quickly realize they will get caught in their own webs if it goes on too long/hard) the SJW Dianas' bankrolling could dry up pretty fast.

    The only men who “care” are a) guilty pigs who need cover, b) homosexuals, c) beta males under the misapprehension that seeming to care will help get them laid.
    “What have you done for me lately” goes both ways.

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  70. mobi says:
    @Moshe
    It's odd that we have read so little here about Bill O'Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn't fit The Narrative.

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn’t fit The Narrative.

    But since ‘the Narrative’ is just a mirror-image of your own, it shouldn’t be that odd to you, should it?

    Of course, I don’t believe that you find it odd at all.

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  71. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    What are you talking about? Many of these stories go back to when he was still in the NFL and vs his first wife. It didn't start with OJ. If there's one reason some suspect that domestic violence in the NFL goes back farther in time than imagined, it's most likely because of the widely known stories concerning Jim Brown. Of course, very few other NFLers from this era are talked about in the same way, but being one of the NFL's all time greatest players has probably lent credence to the idea that domestic violence in football has been going on for a long time.

    The first news story about Jim Brown assaulting a woman was in the spring of 1965, just before his last season. The woman was not his wife. He beat the rap.

    it will surprise people that before the above charge, Jim Brown had a very positive public image. After leaving football in 1966, divorcing his first wife and going into acting full time, several more incidents occurred.

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    Not quite. Deadspin (or perhaps Bleacher Report) posted an interview of Jim Brown by a sportswriter that took place in the mid. '80's. The report made clear that he had some problems even before being drafted by the NFL. He wasn't officially charged, but before 1965 he did assault his first wife (and she didn't press charges). Point is, the smoke was around him and has been for a long, long time.
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  72. @James Kabala
    I think Dan was thinking of James Brown (a natural confusion since he was mentioned in the previous post).

    Jim Brown is presumably also a James but was never billed that way.

    He was born James Nathaniel Brown. During most of his football career, he was billed as “Jimmy Brown.” He seems to have preferred “Jim,” and was always billed as such in movies, but didn’t make anything of it during his football days.

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  73. AM says:
    @Corvinus
    "In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a major manipulator of the culture to build today’s moral consensus that a vote for whichever Clinton is on the ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world."

    Corrected for accuracy --> In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a contributor of the American culture to build today's moral consensus, highlighted in part by the hypocrisy of evangelicals and leftists, that a vote for Clinton or Trump or other politicians on a ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world.

    In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a contributor of the American culture to build today’s moral consensus, highlighted in part by the hypocrisy of evangelicals and leftists, that a vote for Clinton or Trump or other politicians on a ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world.

    From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein. Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad.

    Where are your award winning movies telling us everyone is wrong but you? You did the sleeping around bit. It seems like the movies should just flow now.

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    "From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein."

    You are mistaking me for the commenter "Whorefinder". He, not I, is the one who has touted his conquests in the red light district. That would be low class. Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.

    "Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad."

    Weinstein nor Trump didn't discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.

    , @Romanian
    Fake news! BBC pidgin to the rescue

    Harvey Weinstein 'bin wan massage me' - Lupita Nyong'o

    https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-41691194

    She say after dem chop lunch together with im children, Weinstein invite her go bedroom and na for dia im come ask her if she want make im massage her, rub her bodi.
    "I first think say im dey joke, but na lie," na wetin she talk.
    After dat day, when some time don pass and she don meet am again with some of her male friends , think say wetin happen no too bad, na im Mr Weinstein try another one.
    Dis time, im invite her come eat lunch again, and dis time, e no even waste time to talk im mind.
    According to her di man say: ''make we go straight to di matter. I get private room upstairs where we fit go eat di rest of our food.''
    Nyong'o say as she dey shock, im tell her say if she wan be actress she go need to dey do this kind things; im also tell her say im don date different actresses and she herself fit see how dem dey prosper dey go.
    Di actress tell am say she no fit, and im tell her say okay by- bye, "I no know about your career but you go dey fine.''
     
    I am picturing the dialogue in pidgin!
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  74. Next they’ll be going after Ugly George, who was doing the Girls Gone Wild thing when Joe Francis was a toddler.

    The Hunt for Beauties: Ugly George Roams Again

    By ALEX MINDLIN
    JULY 10, 2005

    If you were a pretty young woman in Midtown between 1976 and 1982, you had a fair chance of running into George Urban, a good-looking, wavy-haired young man who wanted you to undress for him.

    But Mr. Urban was no ordinary ladies’ man. He was known as Ugly George, and he roamed Manhattan in an open-chested silver vest and short-shorts, wearing a huge silver backpack full of early videotaping gear. He approached women in the street and tried to wheedle them into the broom closets of Midtown office buildings. (His trademark come-on was, “Let’s flex into a dimly lit hallway.”) Then he coaxed them, camera rolling, into taking off their clothes. He also sometimes persuaded them to go to his apartment, a crimson-sheeted basement lair.

    The resulting images, along with excerpts from Mr. Urban’s interviews with politicians and celebrities, were edited into a late-night Manhattan public-access cable show called “The Ugly George Hour of Truth, Sex, and Violence.” There was, in fact, little violence, aside from the taunts that Mr. Urban hurled at the backs of women who refused him. (“The biggest break of your life, blondie!” he shouted at one woman. “You’re going to blow it!”)

    Ugly George became a cult figure, interviewing John Lennon and Michael Jackson, among other celebrities. But the show was frequently kicked off the air; it ran only sporadically after 1982 and disappeared entirely in 1991.

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  75. @David In TN
    The first news story about Jim Brown assaulting a woman was in the spring of 1965, just before his last season. The woman was not his wife. He beat the rap.

    it will surprise people that before the above charge, Jim Brown had a very positive public image. After leaving football in 1966, divorcing his first wife and going into acting full time, several more incidents occurred.

    Not quite. Deadspin (or perhaps Bleacher Report) posted an interview of Jim Brown by a sportswriter that took place in the mid. ’80′s. The report made clear that he had some problems even before being drafted by the NFL. He wasn’t officially charged, but before 1965 he did assault his first wife (and she didn’t press charges). Point is, the smoke was around him and has been for a long, long time.

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  76. Truth says:
    @Anonymouse
    while i'm washing the dishes, my wife is watching a woman on the tube describing how she didn't let Harvey Weinstein have his way with her.

    Well I think the main issue here is that I think the gender roles are revered at home, Edith Bunker.

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    ProTip:

    A guy who rinses and stacks the dirty dishes in the automated dishwashing machine while his wife gets 20 minutes to herself after shopping for, planning, and cooking a magnificent dinner over the course of hours...

    ...gets a better daily menu than a guy who bitches about Norman Lear fantasy characters.

    Take her a glass of wine while she puts her feet up, and pretty soon TV doesn't enter into it at all.
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  78. Knotnull says:

    All these big hitters going down.

    Is Bill Cosby relieved?

    Will there be court cases like they did to Bill Cosby?

    Harvey and Toback are ugly but their targets all were not.
    Is this a new trend or has it always been?

    Maybe Harvey and Toback should be paired up with some ugly lesbians to balance things out.

    Also doesn’t this also show that all those actresses that are coming forth lived up faitthfully to their stereotypes?

    Should they be reviled also?

    One last question….
    Are there any good looking handsome straight men in the business that have been accused of sexual harassment? I’m guessing the girls didn’t mind their attention so much.

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    Maybe this is a war inside feminism.

    This kind of panic was quite common with Old Feminism. But then, Slut Feminism happened, and the culture was about how Bad Boys and Slut Ho's should get it on and blah blah. Since slut feminism wanted to play the game with men, they were less concerned about the Sexual Harassment issue. Also, the whole issue went crashing down when Clinton, the feminist president, turned out to be 'Harasser' in Chief.

    Also, as the culture got pornier and trashier, feminism just seemed out of fashion in a world of madonna, aguilera, and skanks. Soon enough, black ho's twerking their butts became the symbol of empowerment. How can men be accused of harassment in a world where women are singing and dancing about how they are proud to be whores?

    So, feminism made a pact with sluttony. Slut Pride was accepted as part of feminism BUT it was still kosher to scream 'rape'!!! So, we had Emma Sulk the slut crying rape, Lena Dunham the whore bitching about 'rape' that maybe or maybe didnt happen.

    But maybe slut feminism has burned out, and Old Feminism is making a comeback. Also, slut feminists who used to be young and sexy and enjoyed male attention when they were hot stuff are now past their prime and feeling old and bitter and getting all sour and blaming it all on the men. When they were in the game, they took it as part of business and even fun. But now that the game is over, they just wanna play poor victim. It's like football players. When hot and in the game, they loved to smash into other players and act like hunters with trophies. But once they retire and run out of money and feel a lot of pain, they just feel like victims of the game.

    Or maybe it's Hillary's loss to Trump. Maybe this pissed off women SO MUCH that all their anger at Trump is being thrown at men, any men. Hollywood men figured on directing feminist rage at Trump, but maybe it's just boomeranging on them.

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  79. res says:
    @StillCARealist
    I totally don't understand that. Can you unravel it for me?

    I was responding to a preemptive comment about “every single time” comments (a pretty standard type of “anti-Semitic comment” on iSteve). If one is making preemptive comments it is hard to contend the other “side” is instigating the back and forth we see here (all too often IMHO).

    “Who” was bolded because in who-whom the “who” is doing something (the subject of a verb) to the “whom” (object of the verb). Which fits in with the instigating idea.

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  80. Ah, the old Boomhauer approach to pick-up artistry.

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  81. njguy73 says:
    @the one they call Desanex
    Speaking of Spy magazine, it was, in my opinion, the best magazine ever. There have been other great magazines, but the cherry on top that made Spy the best was “Our Un-British Crossword Puzzle”, composed, with witty commentary, by Roy Blount Jr. Unz Review needs an entertaining, challenging puzzle—maybe a cryptic crossword, or a cryptogram like the old Saturday Review (theirs were composed by Thomas H. Middleton.)

    By the way, old issues of Spy can be read on Google Books, but that Toback article is missing from the March 1989 issue.

    As a cynical Gen-X teen in the late ’80s, Spy was my Bible. Favorite moments:

    - The Ten Dumbest Members of Congress
    - printing Madonna’s college transcript
    - 1,000 Reasons Not To Vote for George Bush (1992)
    - 1,000 Reasons The O.J. Trial Is The Worst Thing Ever

    No one was safe from them. They dissed Times editor A.M. Rosenthal, and also dubbed Donald Trump “short-fingered vulgarian.”

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  82. njguy73 says:
    @Johnny789
    I remember some NFL guy in the 60's was stabbed to death by his abused wife while he was sleeping. I think he had a girl's first name.
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  83. @anonguy

    In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood.
     
    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    They are creepy guys, even with all their money/fame (except maybe Toback), they have to be unduly pressuring women for sex rather than the women jumping on them.

    Women don't like creepy guys and these guys were all creeps who got an angle and exploited women with it rather than being studly guys who had a healthy sexual appetite. The potted plants, weird phones sex, frottage, etc.

    These guys are perverts and that is why all the women are coming out against them when the moment presented itself. It is why guys like Clinton, Wilt Chamberlain, etc, don't go down. Women don't view them as creepy.

    Again, the best defense against sexual harassment claims is to be attractive.

    Yes, but then you have someone like Bill Cosby. Not fugly and not overtly creepy in public (at least back in the day when he was in his prime). So that kind of goes vs. your thesis. Also, not everyone, even those with tons of money, can make it into the top one percent of looks. They have to make due with what they have, and if having tons of money can help them, then they have to play it for all its worth. Unfortunately for these guys, they went too far.

    Also, pre his presidency, where would one put Donald Trump? Clearly he was able to land some amazing women without having to resort to subterfuge, and yet he had the bad taste to brag about it publicly.

    So basically creepy = pervert, whereas being handsome = studly and one can get away with anything with women. If Weinstein looked like Robert Redford, probably few women would’ve complained, even if he did the exact same things.

    And what does it say about the women who consented with a couple of these guys? That they were willing to consent to what they were being asked? (not referring to assault, obviously). The casting couch has existed before and probably will continue to exist in some form in the near future.

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    So basically creepy = pervert, whereas being handsome = studly and one can get away with anything with women.
     
    Yeah, that seems to be it, more or less, although instead of handsome I'd say attractive, which is a little broader. There are some handsome guys who manage to pull off being creepy, a doofus, etc.

    Yes, but then you have someone like Bill Cosby. Not fugly and not overtly creepy in public (at least back in the day when he was in his prime). So that kind of goes vs. your thesis.
     
    Cosby was an outlier in a few regards. The first was his incredible ignorance in setting himself up as a preachy public moralizer while secretly drugging and raping women. Plus, he wasn't particularly good looking, more just some average looking Joe. His persona was his schtick.

    And now, with all you know about him, doesn't he seem a little creepy?

    But that aside, he had the MSM gunning for him because of his public moralizing. Same thing happening to Bill O'Reilly now.

    We could only wish it would happen to David Brooks too, but he married his victim.
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  84. anonguy says:
    @Moshe
    It's odd that we have read so little here about Bill O'Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn't fit The Narrative.

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly.

    He always made my skin crawl, I thought he was completely sociopathic. I’ve never understood why he had the slightest popularity.

    Ugh…

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  85. @Daniel H
    >>I would be hesitant to say that Trevor Noah is gay, perhaps he is bisexual,

    Concerning men, bisexual is gay, that is, homosexual. There is no such thing as bisexuality among men. Women are a different matter.

    Uh, Anthony Perkins.

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    >>Uh, Anthony Perkins.

    Just because a dude copulates with women, marries one even, doesn't make him straight, or "bisexual". It's the inner thoughts that matter. My guess is that every "bisexual" who has sexual relations with women is fantasizing about having sex with a man while he is doing the act. Many homosexual (formerly "bisexual") will confirm this. They will tell you that their bisexual or straight phase was just an act, an unfulfilling and difficult act to pull off.

    Also, Anthony Perkins died of AIDS. Not exclusively, but most AIDS victims tended to be on the more homosexually promiscuous side of the gay demographic. That don't sound "bisexual" to me.
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  86. MEH 0910 says:
    @Svigor
    Drudge headline says:

    UBER Sex Harassment Movie in Works...
     
    Another gift: either Hollywood makes a Hollywood rape/harassment movie (win), or it doesn't (win).

    ‘Hunting Ground’ Filmmakers Tackling Hollywood Sexual Assault Documentary

    Kirby Dick and Amy Ziering, whose last documentary The Hunting Ground focused on sexual assault on college campuses, on Monday announced their next film, another as-yet untitled sexual assault documentary.

    Predators in Hollywood, many described as being similar to Harvey Weinstein, will be the focus of the new doc, which will examine abuse and cover-ups within the entertainment industry.

    ……

    The Weinstein Co.’s Radius division distributed 2015′s The Hunting Ground. In a recent guest column for The Hollywood Reporter, the filmmakers called for Weinstein’s expulsion from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. The film mogul was expelled two days later.

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  87. @whorefinder
    Nothing in any of the stories about Toback show rape or sexual assault, although a few stories are on the fringes. The stories sound like a bad name-dropping stereotype of a filmmaker trying to bed women. He was aggressive about hitting on women, which isn't a bad thing, but his game sounds awful. If all you've got is your fame/position to pick-up women---and that's all Toback seems to have relied upon---you've already failed.

    The humping of women's legs in certain tales is close to assault, but the stories are vague as to under what circumstances (for example, on a date, or in his bed room), which make it sound like it could have been consensual or at least it was not some shock to the girls that he tried to make a move but instead a circumstance where they had a duty to clarify to him that no, they didn't want to (as opposed to Weinstein, who was assaulting, raping, and exposing himself to women in his office / business meetings/restaurants and not on dates, where the women could not expect a sexual move of that caliber).

    Toback sounds like a type: a horny, name-dropping celebrity-worshiper who blatantly uses his fame and connections to bed women in a clumsly, desperate con-man manner. He feels pathetic, so he feels the need to cozy up to celebrities who are "real" men---Jim Brown, Mike Tyson, and Warren Beatty (Beatty was an all-American football player IIRC, and, in any event, is clearly a very virile straight-male alpha type, given his reputation).

    I could picture this Toback brown-nosing Beatty and Brown and telling them how great they are and fake laughing at all their jokes and then begging them to let him write a book about them or write their screenplay. Toback's career is pretty good proof that it's connections and not ability that get you through the film industry.

    P.S. How hilariously out of touch is Toback that he viewed a a young Robert Downey Jr. as a stand in for himself in picking up women in The Pick up Artist? Seriously, that's like some decrepid old hag insisting that she be played by a supermodel in a contemporary bio pic about her.

    In the early 70′s, Sport Magazine turned hard left for a while. James Toback had a couple of pieces in the magazine, one was an excerpt from “Jim,” his JB book.

    Toback was considered a joke when that book came out and his writing career dried up. So Toback went to Hollywood and became a film maker.

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  88. @Svigor

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn’t fit The Narrative.
     
    That's not "The" Narrative, that's "the" narrative. At iSteve. What the Tribe does in Big Media is "The" Narrative.

    Jews are so smart, but not smart enough for context.

    Speaking of The Narrative; it hasn't gone after O'Reilly the way it's now going after Weinstein either, has it? And there aren't scrums of starlets coming out of the woodwork to accuse O'Reilly either, are there? In fact, the O'Reilly story gives every indication of being less interesting to everyone - you included - doesn't it? We'll just whistle past the obvious bit about Weinstein being a much bigger Big Media power broker than O'Reilly.

    In fact, the O’Reilly story gives every indication of being less interesting to everyone – you included – doesn’t it?

    $32M is rape rape money.

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    Could be, but also could be skeezy-guy acting skeezy but not illegal money.

    As we're seeing with Wenstein and as we did with Cosby, if an accuser's story gets into the press and gains interest, it causes a piling on effect where many women will tell tales--real or imagined or exaggerated---about the current Witch doing something Witchy or close to Witchy. Smart PR folks hush this stuff up early to keep the gossip spreading.

    Fox has shown that it has an excellent sense of image, which has helped it survive as the only neocon/non-lefty corporate news source. Hot female anchors, appealing visual graphics, and hushing up bad stuff way early with NDA settlements. Lefty ones haven't had to be that sharp because other lefty pressers will cover for them. Which makes it curious how Weinstein's stuff got out now and why it's getting out; is it really Ronan Farrow all by his lonesome? If so, good for him.
    , @Jack D
    Except that according to what has leaked, all he did was send her sexually explicit emails. How this is worth $32M, I dunno. $32M was supposed to buy silence and he didn't even get silence so he should ask for his $ back. He was on TV this morning raging against God or something.
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  89. Corvinus says:
    @AM

    In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a contributor of the American culture to build today’s moral consensus, highlighted in part by the hypocrisy of evangelicals and leftists, that a vote for Clinton or Trump or other politicians on a ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world.
     
    From what you stated previously, you've gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein. Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad.

    Where are your award winning movies telling us everyone is wrong but you? You did the sleeping around bit. It seems like the movies should just flow now.

    “From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein.”

    You are mistaking me for the commenter “Whorefinder”. He, not I, is the one who has touted his conquests in the red light district. That would be low class. Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.

    “Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad.”

    Weinstein nor Trump didn’t discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.

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    Weinstein nor Trump didn’t discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.
     
    That is - as is almost everything you say - untrue. Trump obviously is pretty discriminating. Nor are there freely admitted cases of him forcing himself on women. And certainly nobody has accused him of cornering some ingenue in a restaurant and then sating his lust by jacking off into a fern. Trump may be a boor, but he is not the pathetic weenie-wagger that Weinstein evidently is.
    , @AM

    Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.
     
    LOL! Oh, you know where you slipped up Mr. Corvinus. Lots of "serious relationships" out there in rainbow of colors, by your own description. It's the new (old) way to show love -- sleep with anything that moves before, during, or after marriage. Unfortunately, a little too common of an experience at the age I'm guessing your writing puts you at.

    Although honestly, you're so out there who know what your actual life story is. It's the just part of the fun of the 'Net. :)

    , @AM

    so why not be a good Christian girl [...] Because God is watching you closely.
     
    PS - I appreciate you dropping the pretentious Christian mask and just going with the atheism that was already there anyway. God actually does know and it wasn't doing you a bit of good anyway. Better to be honest and come back than think it's possible to hide from God.
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    @Desiderius

    In fact, the O’Reilly story gives every indication of being less interesting to everyone – you included – doesn’t it?
     
    $32M is rape rape money.

    Could be, but also could be skeezy-guy acting skeezy but not illegal money.

    As we’re seeing with Wenstein and as we did with Cosby, if an accuser’s story gets into the press and gains interest, it causes a piling on effect where many women will tell tales–real or imagined or exaggerated—about the current Witch doing something Witchy or close to Witchy. Smart PR folks hush this stuff up early to keep the gossip spreading.

    Fox has shown that it has an excellent sense of image, which has helped it survive as the only neocon/non-lefty corporate news source. Hot female anchors, appealing visual graphics, and hushing up bad stuff way early with NDA settlements. Lefty ones haven’t had to be that sharp because other lefty pressers will cover for them. Which makes it curious how Weinstein’s stuff got out now and why it’s getting out; is it really Ronan Farrow all by his lonesome? If so, good for him.

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  91. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @whoever
    I'm surprised that Brooke Shields hasn't come up in discussions of sexually exploited child stars.
    https://youtu.be/oOPSxllUDw8

    It should have been a tipoff that the New Blonde had a sapphic streak. But it was a great acolade for the young Brooke nevertheless:

    Stars live in the evening
    But the very young need the sun, uh-huh
    Pretty baby, you look so heavenly
    A neo-nebular from under the sun
    I was forming, some say I had my chance
    The boys were falling like an avalanche

    Ya ya baby
    La Dolce Vita is a magic dance
    No-one was listening
    Pretty baby, un petite ingenue
    A teenage starlet, I fell in love with you

    You, you with the comb
    You look OK in every way (every way)
    Ah, I should have known
    You’d look at me and look away (and look away – oh)

    Pretty baby, you look so heavenly
    A neo-nebular from under the sun
    Eyes that tell me incense and peppermints
    Your looks are larger than life, long live innocence
    Petite ingenue, I fell in love with you
    Pretty baby, I fell in love with you, whoah oh
    Pretty baby, oh oh
    Pretty baby, whoah oh, I fell in love with you

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  92. Mr. Anon says:
    @Moshe
    It's odd that we have read so little here about Bill O'Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Oh, I know, he doesn't fit The Narrative.

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?

    Because most people here already think O-Reilly is an ass and a tool. I can’t recall anyone hereabouts having anything nice to say about him. I know I never have.

    Also, he was more circumspect in his harrassment, and was only being protected by Roger Ailes and a handful of others in the know. He didn’t benefit by having his entire industry keep quiet about him.

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    I don't have cable TV so I'm less familiar with and interested in cable TV personalities than most other pundits.
    , @Moshe
    He had the entire right wing run cover for him.

    His first publicly admitted headliner and apology with a denial followed by a recording followed by an apology and a multimillion dollar pay off was over a decade ago.

    And until it became obvious that he was an enemy of trumpism half the country kept letting it slide.

    Now THAT'S a bit more of a story than some director of unimportant movies. (Not Weinstein)

    But again, there is a Jooz Narrative around here and highlighting O'Reilly hasn't forwarded that so why bother mentioning it?
    , @ScarletNumber
    According to Zev Chafets Rush Limbaugh refers to Bill O'Reilly as Ted Baxter.
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  93. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein."

    You are mistaking me for the commenter "Whorefinder". He, not I, is the one who has touted his conquests in the red light district. That would be low class. Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.

    "Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad."

    Weinstein nor Trump didn't discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.

    Weinstein nor Trump didn’t discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.

    That is – as is almost everything you say – untrue. Trump obviously is pretty discriminating. Nor are there freely admitted cases of him forcing himself on women. And certainly nobody has accused him of cornering some ingenue in a restaurant and then sating his lust by jacking off into a fern. Trump may be a boor, but he is not the pathetic weenie-wagger that Weinstein evidently is.

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    "That is – as is almost everything you say – untrue."

    Yet another SJWesque comment on your part.

    "Trump obviously is pretty discriminating."

    Indeed.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place

    "Nor are there freely admitted cases of him forcing himself on women."

    Try again.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/trump-subpoenaed-for-documents-about-sexual-assault-accusers.html

    https://splinternews.com/here-are-all-the-women-who-have-accused-donald-trump-of-1793862807

    "Trump may be a boor, but he is not the pathetic weenie-wagger that Weinstein evidently is."

    What is pathetic is covering for a man who is equally skilled at immoral conduct.
    , @Anonymous
    Trump turned down a lot , including some pretty famous and decent looking women. He likes them tall (why he turned down the woman pictured above, Debbie Harry: she's 5'3". She still bitches about it.) and he likes them to have class. Since he first became nationally famous, he has always been that statistical rarity, the male the females pursue more than the other way around.

    There is no evidence of him forcing himself on women for the simple reason you don't do that when they are lining up single file for you every day. Indeed, he bought the cow three times when he was practically drowning in free milk. Now, that's family orientation.

    Ron White has an interesting take on it. He is talking here about Tiger Woods, but it's a similar principle, besides the fact that as far as we know when Trump was knocking the bottom out of all that fluff, it was when he wasn't married.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OBVHWkm1qc
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  94. @mobi

    By the way, is a preference for cornering female near-strangers, dropping your pants, and masturbating in front of them ‘a thing’, or just a (((thing)))?

    Let’s conduct a survey. I have three examples, so far:

    1) (((Jabba Weinstein)))

    2) an unnamed Hollywood big-wig (((producer))), targeting Kathie Lee Gifford:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4963526/Kathie-Lee-Gifford-forced-watch-producer-masturbate.html

    3) Uber-feminist liberal and bad-white mocker (((Louis CK))):

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/louis-ck-confronts-sexual-misconduct-rumors_us_59b7b3ade4b09be41657e3e9

    I have an open mind about this.
     
    4) (((James Toback)))

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5005765/Thirty-women-accuse-James-Toback-sexual-harassment.html

    Ok, in fairness, he might be 2)

    If you want to know who Toback’s closest friends are:

    http://takimag.com/article/toback_redux_taki_theodoracopulos/print#axzz4wOT9lzRS

    ‘The beautiful girls were all ears. It was a typical Toback evening.’

    That’s what Taki (age 81) said.

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  95. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Toback promotes Jungle Fever in all his movies.

    A vulgar example of alliance of Jewish hustle and Black muscle.

    Toback is like a poor man’s Kubrick. Even looks sort of like Kubrick. He is interested in power, and he gets it that US is about business(at which Jews are best) and sports(at which blacks are best).

    Halfway interesting but sordid and repulsive. The pimp of cinema… like Jaglom’s black sheep brother. (Don’t care for Jaglom either.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jaglom

    As repulsive as he is, he must be onto something when we look at the state of American Culture. It’s very Tobackian. Paul Schrader was also obsessed with same material — vice, violence, sex, race, nihilism — , but he was as repelled as attracted to the lurid world of sin. In contrast, Toback seems very much at home in this world. ‘Sin’ doesn’t exist in his vocabulary.
    It’s no wonder he got along well with Kael who was also something of an amoralist, though she could be very moralistic in her amoralism. Kael was interested in young Schrader because he seemed to be wound up so tight, with one part of him wanting to plunge into licentiousness, another part recoiling in horror. Maybe she felt like a old whore helping a young guy lose virginity. With Schrader, a very confused and difficult person, her relationship was off and on. With Toback, there was an understanding. They both knew the art of hustle.
    Taki has nice things to say about Toback. Either Toback is a great schmoozer or Taki is a sucker for flattery(and role in a movie).

    PS. Herzog this year.

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/04/werner-herzog-queen-of-the-desert-1201804807/

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  96. @Mr. Anon

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?
     
    Because most people here already think O-Reilly is an ass and a tool. I can't recall anyone hereabouts having anything nice to say about him. I know I never have.

    Also, he was more circumspect in his harrassment, and was only being protected by Roger Ailes and a handful of others in the know. He didn't benefit by having his entire industry keep quiet about him.

    I don’t have cable TV so I’m less familiar with and interested in cable TV personalities than most other pundits.

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  97. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Kirt
    Low-hanging fruit Toback may be but apparently the hunt is on. It didn't stop with Weinstein and it won't with Toback. Before it's over some innocent people and some very minor sinners will be unjustifiably punished. That's a bad thing which happens in all witch hunts. On the other hand, Hollywood idolatry will take a hit just as flag and pigskin idolatry have. And that's a very good thing.

    Hollywood used to enjoy Assover, the passover of sexual harassment. Because of its Libby politics, its men could do things that others(esp conservatives) could not. So, PC passed over so much of bad behavior in Hollywood.

    But it looks like Assover isn’t working so well. All the pinches and grabbed asses are now so butt-hurt and out for blood.

    This is potentially more explosive than so-called ‘sexism’ in Silicon Valley. Valley has lots of money but not much glamour. If anything, nerds and geeks with computers is anti-glamour.
    But even nerds and geeks in the movie industry got the glam thing by association. They work with ‘stars’, so they could attract all sorts of people.

    Also, Hollywood attracts bimbos in ways that Silicon Valley doesn’t. Bimbos dream of becoming of stars, discover how difficult it is, and put out. But no bimbo goes to the Valley to get famous… even though, if they tried, they might actually do better by hooking up with some geek.
    Maybe that’s a solution. Tell the bimbos in the fruited plains to go to the Silly than to Holly. In Silly Valley, they won’t be stars but they might hook up with some affluent dork. In Holly, they will just be grabbed by dorks who don’t care.

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    This is what I've been saying for awhile: Amazing that more women haven't thrown themselves at Mark Zuckerberg. Talking about a man who can own every single NFL and NBA franchise and still have change left over. He helped create Facebook, a product used by more women than men. What's not to like? He's literally king of the Valley.
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  98. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anonguy

    In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood.
     
    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    They are creepy guys, even with all their money/fame (except maybe Toback), they have to be unduly pressuring women for sex rather than the women jumping on them.

    Women don't like creepy guys and these guys were all creeps who got an angle and exploited women with it rather than being studly guys who had a healthy sexual appetite. The potted plants, weird phones sex, frottage, etc.

    These guys are perverts and that is why all the women are coming out against them when the moment presented itself. It is why guys like Clinton, Wilt Chamberlain, etc, don't go down. Women don't view them as creepy.

    Again, the best defense against sexual harassment claims is to be attractive.

    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O’Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    Yeah, Eastwood ran on the persona of christ of beauty. In movies like PLAY MISTY FOR ME and HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER, it’s like all these unterfrau and untermensch are out to lynch him for being too beautiful. The woman in PLAY stalk him and even try to kill him unless he chooses her. And in HIGH PLAINS, those ugly guys tried to kill him. Same in HANG EM HIGH. And PALE RIDER has him come back as a handsome devil christ-figure. He undergoes Passion moment in FISTFUL OF DOLLARS and GOOD BAD UGLY too(though Passion of Tuco topped it at the hands of Angel Eyes).

    Eastwood may not have been ‘enlightened’ about womenfolk, but his problem was never making moves to get women. It was making moves to KEEP THEM AWAY.

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    You forgot to mention THE BEGUILED, in which he artfully seduces tons of women who not only try to poison him, they cut off one of his legs for revenge! Everyone seems to be picking on poor ol' Clint. Also a bit disturbing is that rape is fairly graphically portrayed in several of his films, with him doing the raping on screen in HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER. But finally, at least for one moment in real life, he reaped his comeuppance.
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  99. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Knotnull
    All these big hitters going down.

    Is Bill Cosby relieved?

    Will there be court cases like they did to Bill Cosby?

    Harvey and Toback are ugly but their targets all were not.
    Is this a new trend or has it always been?

    Maybe Harvey and Toback should be paired up with some ugly lesbians to balance things out.

    Also doesn't this also show that all those actresses that are coming forth lived up faitthfully to their stereotypes?

    Should they be reviled also?

    One last question....
    Are there any good looking handsome straight men in the business that have been accused of sexual harassment? I'm guessing the girls didn't mind their attention so much.

    Maybe this is a war inside feminism.

    This kind of panic was quite common with Old Feminism. But then, Slut Feminism happened, and the culture was about how Bad Boys and Slut Ho’s should get it on and blah blah. Since slut feminism wanted to play the game with men, they were less concerned about the Sexual Harassment issue. Also, the whole issue went crashing down when Clinton, the feminist president, turned out to be ‘Harasser’ in Chief.

    Also, as the culture got pornier and trashier, feminism just seemed out of fashion in a world of madonna, aguilera, and skanks. Soon enough, black ho’s twerking their butts became the symbol of empowerment. How can men be accused of harassment in a world where women are singing and dancing about how they are proud to be whores?

    So, feminism made a pact with sluttony. Slut Pride was accepted as part of feminism BUT it was still kosher to scream ‘rape’!!! So, we had Emma Sulk the slut crying rape, Lena Dunham the whore bitching about ‘rape’ that maybe or maybe didnt happen.

    But maybe slut feminism has burned out, and Old Feminism is making a comeback. Also, slut feminists who used to be young and sexy and enjoyed male attention when they were hot stuff are now past their prime and feeling old and bitter and getting all sour and blaming it all on the men. When they were in the game, they took it as part of business and even fun. But now that the game is over, they just wanna play poor victim. It’s like football players. When hot and in the game, they loved to smash into other players and act like hunters with trophies. But once they retire and run out of money and feel a lot of pain, they just feel like victims of the game.

    Or maybe it’s Hillary’s loss to Trump. Maybe this pissed off women SO MUCH that all their anger at Trump is being thrown at men, any men. Hollywood men figured on directing feminist rage at Trump, but maybe it’s just boomeranging on them.

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  100. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Weinstein nor Trump didn’t discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.
     
    That is - as is almost everything you say - untrue. Trump obviously is pretty discriminating. Nor are there freely admitted cases of him forcing himself on women. And certainly nobody has accused him of cornering some ingenue in a restaurant and then sating his lust by jacking off into a fern. Trump may be a boor, but he is not the pathetic weenie-wagger that Weinstein evidently is.

    “That is – as is almost everything you say – untrue.”

    Yet another SJWesque comment on your part.

    “Trump obviously is pretty discriminating.”

    Indeed.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place

    “Nor are there freely admitted cases of him forcing himself on women.”

    Try again.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/trump-subpoenaed-for-documents-about-sexual-assault-accusers.html

    https://splinternews.com/here-are-all-the-women-who-have-accused-donald-trump-of-1793862807

    “Trump may be a boor, but he is not the pathetic weenie-wagger that Weinstein evidently is.”

    What is pathetic is covering for a man who is equally skilled at immoral conduct.

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    "Yet another SJWesque comment on your part."

    No, just an observation. You lie a great deal. Or you are exceedingly stupid. Or both.

    "Indeed."

    You apparently don't know what the word "discriminating means". Unsurprising given your general ignorance.

    "Try again."

    Again, you're not very quick on the uptake are you? I said "freely admitted". Sure, there have been claims of aggressive come-ons by Trump. But he has never admitted to wrong-doing. Weinstein (now that he has been caught) has. Did Trump ever corner a woman in a restaruant and jack-off while staring at her? Did he ever force a woman down on a bed and dangle his junk in her face? Weinstein did, on several occasions, and - according to several women - more besides, up to and including rape.

    "What is pathetic is covering for a man who is equally skilled at immoral conduct."

    I'm not covering for anyone. You, however, seem to feel the need to cover for a pig like Weinstein.

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  101. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon

    Weinstein nor Trump didn’t discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.
     
    That is - as is almost everything you say - untrue. Trump obviously is pretty discriminating. Nor are there freely admitted cases of him forcing himself on women. And certainly nobody has accused him of cornering some ingenue in a restaurant and then sating his lust by jacking off into a fern. Trump may be a boor, but he is not the pathetic weenie-wagger that Weinstein evidently is.

    Trump turned down a lot , including some pretty famous and decent looking women. He likes them tall (why he turned down the woman pictured above, Debbie Harry: she’s 5’3″. She still bitches about it.) and he likes them to have class. Since he first became nationally famous, he has always been that statistical rarity, the male the females pursue more than the other way around.

    There is no evidence of him forcing himself on women for the simple reason you don’t do that when they are lining up single file for you every day. Indeed, he bought the cow three times when he was practically drowning in free milk. Now, that’s family orientation.

    Ron White has an interesting take on it. He is talking here about Tiger Woods, but it’s a similar principle, besides the fact that as far as we know when Trump was knocking the bottom out of all that fluff, it was when he wasn’t married.

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  102. Ivy says:

    Perhaps a crisis management team has a hit list of Next Creeps to out, so that ol’ Harv gets out of the news cycle for a while. Then they factor in random events like natural disasters and count on attention span diversion via some sports news to change viewer channels.

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  103. @Anon
    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O’Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    Yeah, Eastwood ran on the persona of christ of beauty. In movies like PLAY MISTY FOR ME and HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER, it's like all these unterfrau and untermensch are out to lynch him for being too beautiful. The woman in PLAY stalk him and even try to kill him unless he chooses her. And in HIGH PLAINS, those ugly guys tried to kill him. Same in HANG EM HIGH. And PALE RIDER has him come back as a handsome devil christ-figure. He undergoes Passion moment in FISTFUL OF DOLLARS and GOOD BAD UGLY too(though Passion of Tuco topped it at the hands of Angel Eyes).

    Eastwood may not have been 'enlightened' about womenfolk, but his problem was never making moves to get women. It was making moves to KEEP THEM AWAY.

    You forgot to mention THE BEGUILED, in which he artfully seduces tons of women who not only try to poison him, they cut off one of his legs for revenge! Everyone seems to be picking on poor ol’ Clint. Also a bit disturbing is that rape is fairly graphically portrayed in several of his films, with him doing the raping on screen in HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER. But finally, at least for one moment in real life, he reaped his comeuppance.

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  104. @Anon
    Hollywood used to enjoy Assover, the passover of sexual harassment. Because of its Libby politics, its men could do things that others(esp conservatives) could not. So, PC passed over so much of bad behavior in Hollywood.

    But it looks like Assover isn't working so well. All the pinches and grabbed asses are now so butt-hurt and out for blood.

    This is potentially more explosive than so-called 'sexism' in Silicon Valley. Valley has lots of money but not much glamour. If anything, nerds and geeks with computers is anti-glamour.
    But even nerds and geeks in the movie industry got the glam thing by association. They work with 'stars', so they could attract all sorts of people.

    Also, Hollywood attracts bimbos in ways that Silicon Valley doesn't. Bimbos dream of becoming of stars, discover how difficult it is, and put out. But no bimbo goes to the Valley to get famous... even though, if they tried, they might actually do better by hooking up with some geek.
    Maybe that's a solution. Tell the bimbos in the fruited plains to go to the Silly than to Holly. In Silly Valley, they won't be stars but they might hook up with some affluent dork. In Holly, they will just be grabbed by dorks who don't care.

    This is what I’ve been saying for awhile: Amazing that more women haven’t thrown themselves at Mark Zuckerberg. Talking about a man who can own every single NFL and NBA franchise and still have change left over. He helped create Facebook, a product used by more women than men. What’s not to like? He’s literally king of the Valley.

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  105. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Another Injustice.

    Sexual Neglect.

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  106. Neoconned says:
    @Anonymouse
    while i'm washing the dishes, my wife is watching a woman on the tube describing how she didn't let Harvey Weinstein have his way with her.

    I don’t get it.

    What’s the end game here? Toback is a nobody who hasn’t even had a movie in theaters in almost two decades and really in thirty yrs.

    What are these women seeking? Just attention? I’m a film buff who used to loiter on the imdb message forums….& This is my first time hearing about this dude.

    Are these women doing this for sheer fame?

    This dude isn’t that rich and he doesn’t have 300$ million bucks like Weinstei n

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  107. @Neoconned
    I don't get it.

    What's the end game here? Toback is a nobody who hasn't even had a movie in theaters in almost two decades and really in thirty yrs.

    What are these women seeking? Just attention? I'm a film buff who used to loiter on the imdb message forums....& This is my first time hearing about this dude.

    Are these women doing this for sheer fame?

    This dude isn't that rich and he doesn't have 300$ million bucks like Weinstei n

    Presumably some journalist was looking for a headline, and thought of the long-notorious Toback, who uses his real name, so it was easy to find some tiny percentage of all the women he has hit upon over the years.

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    Director David O. Russell is now being sized up for the tumbrel:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/hollywood-terror-director-david-o-russells-history-of-groping-and-on-set-abuse

    He certainly does sound like a mean, selfish creep.

    Is Hollywood going to start condeming directors for being jerks? Aren't directors supposed to be sadistic jerks? I thought that Stanley Kubrick and William Friedkin were known for being insensitive jerks.

    I can't help but think that these guys are being offered up to the mob in order to squelch any investigation into deeper and darker things going on in Hollywood.

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  108. Romanian says: • Website
    @Alden
    "Early the next day Jewish boys ran off to Weimar"

    I thought they were so weak with hunger and disease and starvation and torture that they just lay on the ground, ribs, collar bones and stick arms and legs exposed for the photographers. They were so starved and weak they couldn't even sit up according to the propaganda.

    And one thing about deprivation is that it really kills erectile function. I’ve read that people doing special ops training courses don’t even get morning wood anymore and women in those situations stop menstruating.

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  109. Romanian says: • Website
    @Tulip
    Alas, no respect given for the dead:

    https://medium.com/@jblistman/when-i-was-nineteen-years-old-elie-wiesel-grabbed-my-ass-10370829c4bd

    At the same time, the hatred and misogyny of the Alt-Right, which effectively rapes the minds of all who encounter it is far far worse the personal foibles of progressive men, who despite personal setbacks are fighting for a new progressive world of Equality.

    God, I laughed so hard at that article! I fully believe secular saint Wiesel grabbed someone’s ass, but I do not think he sinned terribly in doing so. I look forward to the “Pope John Paul II suggestively rubbed his prayer beads while watching me when he was a priest” articles.

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  110. Romanian says: • Website
    @L Woods
    Joss Wheadon next. Please let that arch-feminist slimeball be next. It's the only thing I want for the next ten Christmases.

    Wasn’t he already accused? Seems to have gone up in smoke.

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  111. Romanian says: • Website
    @AM

    In contrast to Weinstein, though, who has been a contributor of the American culture to build today’s moral consensus, highlighted in part by the hypocrisy of evangelicals and leftists, that a vote for Clinton or Trump or other politicians on a ballot is a blow against all that is evil in this world.
     
    From what you stated previously, you've gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein. Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad.

    Where are your award winning movies telling us everyone is wrong but you? You did the sleeping around bit. It seems like the movies should just flow now.

    Fake news! BBC pidgin to the rescue

    Harvey Weinstein ‘bin wan massage me’ – Lupita Nyong’o

    https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-41691194

    She say after dem chop lunch together with im children, Weinstein invite her go bedroom and na for dia im come ask her if she want make im massage her, rub her bodi.
    “I first think say im dey joke, but na lie,” na wetin she talk.
    After dat day, when some time don pass and she don meet am again with some of her male friends , think say wetin happen no too bad, na im Mr Weinstein try another one.
    Dis time, im invite her come eat lunch again, and dis time, e no even waste time to talk im mind.
    According to her di man say: ”make we go straight to di matter. I get private room upstairs where we fit go eat di rest of our food.”
    Nyong’o say as she dey shock, im tell her say if she wan be actress she go need to dey do this kind things; im also tell her say im don date different actresses and she herself fit see how dem dey prosper dey go.
    Di actress tell am say she no fit, and im tell her say okay by- bye, “I no know about your career but you go dey fine.”

    I am picturing the dialogue in pidgin!

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  112. Corruption, collusion, coercion — the 3 Cs of the Hollywood-Democrat nexus that goes back at least to the 1920s and Joe Kennedy Sr. JFK probably shagged more movie stars than any man in history, some during his brief time in the White House. A lot of Kennedy-history here to unpack.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/

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    JFK probably shagged more movie stars than any man in history, some during his brief time in the White House.
     
    Not even remotely close.

    I'm not even sure he even bagged one really huge actress besides maybe Gloria Swanson, who his father had been banging for years, and of course Marilyn Monroe, although I don't think they were quite as involved as the popular imagination supposes. There was certainly Angie Dickinson , who was at the periphery of the A-list. But Liz Taylor, or the older biggies like Bette Davis or Joan Crawford? Ava Gardner?


    Frank Sinatra by contrast......banged them all, except Angie, who was like a mascot to the Rat Pack.

    There were probably twenty or thirty guys in Hollywood that had a list ten times longer than JFK. At least of celebs: JFK had a lot of socialites and Fiddles and Faddles.
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  113. @Wally
    Yawn.

    Like a faithful hasbarist, you're merely trying to deflect light that is being shown on Zionist perverts.

    'Nothing to see here, keep on moving'.

    Thanks for supporting the truism that anti “Zionism” is just the politically correct term for Judenhass .

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  114. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    In fact, the O’Reilly story gives every indication of being less interesting to everyone – you included – doesn’t it?
     
    $32M is rape rape money.

    Except that according to what has leaked, all he did was send her sexually explicit emails. How this is worth $32M, I dunno. $32M was supposed to buy silence and he didn’t even get silence so he should ask for his $ back. He was on TV this morning raging against God or something.

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    . He was on TV this morning raging against God or something.
     
    All I know about O'Reilly, other than a Fox fan base, is a series of stupid books that by review I've seen are apparently poor researched and possibly ghost written.

    That he's a "conservative" is not exciting. He sounds like a wanna be actor who had to settle for punditry.
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  115. anonguy says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Yes, but then you have someone like Bill Cosby. Not fugly and not overtly creepy in public (at least back in the day when he was in his prime). So that kind of goes vs. your thesis. Also, not everyone, even those with tons of money, can make it into the top one percent of looks. They have to make due with what they have, and if having tons of money can help them, then they have to play it for all its worth. Unfortunately for these guys, they went too far.

    Also, pre his presidency, where would one put Donald Trump? Clearly he was able to land some amazing women without having to resort to subterfuge, and yet he had the bad taste to brag about it publicly.

    So basically creepy = pervert, whereas being handsome = studly and one can get away with anything with women. If Weinstein looked like Robert Redford, probably few women would've complained, even if he did the exact same things.

    And what does it say about the women who consented with a couple of these guys? That they were willing to consent to what they were being asked? (not referring to assault, obviously). The casting couch has existed before and probably will continue to exist in some form in the near future.

    So basically creepy = pervert, whereas being handsome = studly and one can get away with anything with women.

    Yeah, that seems to be it, more or less, although instead of handsome I’d say attractive, which is a little broader. There are some handsome guys who manage to pull off being creepy, a doofus, etc.

    Yes, but then you have someone like Bill Cosby. Not fugly and not overtly creepy in public (at least back in the day when he was in his prime). So that kind of goes vs. your thesis.

    Cosby was an outlier in a few regards. The first was his incredible ignorance in setting himself up as a preachy public moralizer while secretly drugging and raping women. Plus, he wasn’t particularly good looking, more just some average looking Joe. His persona was his schtick.

    And now, with all you know about him, doesn’t he seem a little creepy?

    But that aside, he had the MSM gunning for him because of his public moralizing. Same thing happening to Bill O’Reilly now.

    We could only wish it would happen to David Brooks too, but he married his victim.

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  116. njguy73 says:
    @ex-banker
    Graydon Carter was on the Bill Simmons podcast last week. The discussion about Spy was the only part worth listening to. Thank God for 2.25 playback speed and the FF button.

    Thanks. I went right to 2:25. The Walter Monheit shout out left me cracking up. Ooof! Another date with Oscar!

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  117. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "That is – as is almost everything you say – untrue."

    Yet another SJWesque comment on your part.

    "Trump obviously is pretty discriminating."

    Indeed.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place

    "Nor are there freely admitted cases of him forcing himself on women."

    Try again.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/trump-subpoenaed-for-documents-about-sexual-assault-accusers.html

    https://splinternews.com/here-are-all-the-women-who-have-accused-donald-trump-of-1793862807

    "Trump may be a boor, but he is not the pathetic weenie-wagger that Weinstein evidently is."

    What is pathetic is covering for a man who is equally skilled at immoral conduct.

    “Yet another SJWesque comment on your part.”

    No, just an observation. You lie a great deal. Or you are exceedingly stupid. Or both.

    “Indeed.”

    You apparently don’t know what the word “discriminating means”. Unsurprising given your general ignorance.

    “Try again.”

    Again, you’re not very quick on the uptake are you? I said “freely admitted”. Sure, there have been claims of aggressive come-ons by Trump. But he has never admitted to wrong-doing. Weinstein (now that he has been caught) has. Did Trump ever corner a woman in a restaruant and jack-off while staring at her? Did he ever force a woman down on a bed and dangle his junk in her face? Weinstein did, on several occasions, and – according to several women – more besides, up to and including rape.

    “What is pathetic is covering for a man who is equally skilled at immoral conduct.”

    I’m not covering for anyone. You, however, seem to feel the need to cover for a pig like Weinstein.

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    "No, just an observation. You lie a great deal. Or you are exceedingly stupid. Or both."

    An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof.

    "You apparently don’t know what the word “discriminating means”. Unsurprising given your general ignorance."

    Trump and Weinstein each were discriminating in their taste for women they could grope at worst or get into bed with at best.

    "Again, you’re not very quick on the uptake are you? I said “freely admitted”. Sure, there have been claims of aggressive come-ons by Trump. But he has never admitted to wrong-doing."

    Trump rarely admits to wrong-doing when it comes to his decisions about women and how he handles them.

    "Weinstein (now that he has been caught) has."

    Of course Weinstein is going to come clean. The jig is up. Trump so far has been able to stem the tide. We shall see if he is able to continue walking that fine line without getting it good and hard.

    "Did Trump ever corner a woman in a restaruant and jack-off while staring at her? Did he ever force a woman down on a bed and dangle his junk in her face? Weinstein did, on several occasions, and – according to several women – more besides, up to and including rape."

    Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump's conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble.

    The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women.
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  118. Mr. Anon says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Presumably some journalist was looking for a headline, and thought of the long-notorious Toback, who uses his real name, so it was easy to find some tiny percentage of all the women he has hit upon over the years.

    Director David O. Russell is now being sized up for the tumbrel:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/hollywood-terror-director-david-o-russells-history-of-groping-and-on-set-abuse

    He certainly does sound like a mean, selfish creep.

    Is Hollywood going to start condeming directors for being jerks? Aren’t directors supposed to be sadistic jerks? I thought that Stanley Kubrick and William Friedkin were known for being insensitive jerks.

    I can’t help but think that these guys are being offered up to the mob in order to squelch any investigation into deeper and darker things going on in Hollywood.

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    Russell was out of work for about five years due to nasty behavior on set. George Clooney punched him out for screaming at some low level guy working on "Three Kings."

    Russell has made some pretty good movies since coming back. Whether he has improved his treatment of underlings since his long exile, I don't know. A lot of his movies involve mental illness, which I presume he has some familiarity with.

    , @Truth

    I can’t help but think that these guys are being offered up to the mob in order to squelch any investigation into deeper and darker things going on in Hollywood.
     
    Goshdarnit Mr. Anon, even though at one time, you figuratviely ripped my heart from my chest while we were doing kata, you are STILL the best poster of all of the Unzistas....GRASSHOPPER.
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  119. @Mr. Anon
    Director David O. Russell is now being sized up for the tumbrel:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/hollywood-terror-director-david-o-russells-history-of-groping-and-on-set-abuse

    He certainly does sound like a mean, selfish creep.

    Is Hollywood going to start condeming directors for being jerks? Aren't directors supposed to be sadistic jerks? I thought that Stanley Kubrick and William Friedkin were known for being insensitive jerks.

    I can't help but think that these guys are being offered up to the mob in order to squelch any investigation into deeper and darker things going on in Hollywood.

    Russell was out of work for about five years due to nasty behavior on set. George Clooney punched him out for screaming at some low level guy working on “Three Kings.”

    Russell has made some pretty good movies since coming back. Whether he has improved his treatment of underlings since his long exile, I don’t know. A lot of his movies involve mental illness, which I presume he has some familiarity with.

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    He actually punched him out? The stated reason sounds like there's more to it, like maybe they didn't get along on the set during production. I never heard of an actor literally punching out a filmmaker while working on production.

    Back in the day, no one would've dared to punch out John Ford, for example.

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  120. sabril says:
    @anonguy

    In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood.
     
    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    They are creepy guys, even with all their money/fame (except maybe Toback), they have to be unduly pressuring women for sex rather than the women jumping on them.

    Women don't like creepy guys and these guys were all creeps who got an angle and exploited women with it rather than being studly guys who had a healthy sexual appetite. The potted plants, weird phones sex, frottage, etc.

    These guys are perverts and that is why all the women are coming out against them when the moment presented itself. It is why guys like Clinton, Wilt Chamberlain, etc, don't go down. Women don't view them as creepy.

    Again, the best defense against sexual harassment claims is to be attractive.

    I basically agree. How attractive a man is physically makes a huge difference in how his conduct (or misconduct) is perceived by women. Clint Eastwood and Donald Trump and Bill Clinton may not be Brad Pitt, but they are both sufficiently attractive that most women would not find them repulsive.

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    In his younger years, Eastwood was considered to be an exceptionally good looking man, almost at Pitt's level. One recurring subtheme of his better known films is having to fight off not only girls but also guys as well.

    Certainly better looking than Bill Clinton. Clinton was always overweight and not all that in looks department. Of course, compared to most politicians, like Nixon, Hubert Humphrey, or Schumer than yes, he was good looking.

    Not sure how Trump was perceived back in the day.
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  121. anonguy says:

    I basically agree. How attractive a man is physically makes a huge difference in how his conduct (or misconduct) is perceived by women. Clint Eastwood and Donald Trump and Bill Clinton may not be Brad Pitt, but they are both sufficiently attractive that most women would not find them repulsive.

    This is even more important as you get older. When guys are young, all of them will tend to engage in fairly aggressive advances/behavior with women.

    However, among older guys the first law of not being a creepy old dude is don’t be hitting on the young ladies. It is icky. If one of them is interested, they will come on to you. They know you think they are hot without you telling them, you’re an old guy.

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    These are excellent common sense observations. One thing relating to Weinstein. Instead of trying his moves on Alisters and would be major actresses in Hollywood, the way for him to have gone would've been simply to quietly buy into an adult video studio, like Vivid, for example. This would accomplish two things:

    1. His casting couch antics would've been totally accepted. Par for the course in that world.

    2. If somehow word reached back to Mirimax, they'd have ignored it. A mover and shaker frequenting hookers. Like, this is Hollywood. Come on.

    3. The feminists wouldn't have cared too bits about it. Most women don't side with porn stars. They'd have shrugged it off "So? The girls had it coming and probably asked for it."

    So, a loophole in your observation about older creepy guys would be, it's okay if the girls are pornstars since they're not particularly choosy and are used to guys hitting on them. I mean, what options do they have? Basically none.

    But being a silent partner in a porn studio would've been Harvey's way to go. He'd have gotten away with getting some and no one would notice much less complain. It's almost like he was trying to treat high end women like porn sluts and never figured out that he was playing in the wrong ballpark for that sort of thing.
    , @L Woods
    This is an anglosphere thing. Most societies aren't so adamant that young women should go entirely to jocks/chads of their own age bracket.
    , @Truth
    Hey, you should ask Pat Boyle, and one other poster here, which one escapes me right now, 70+ year old ex probation officer. They both claim to have 25 year old models falling all over them for sex!
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  122. @sabril
    I basically agree. How attractive a man is physically makes a huge difference in how his conduct (or misconduct) is perceived by women. Clint Eastwood and Donald Trump and Bill Clinton may not be Brad Pitt, but they are both sufficiently attractive that most women would not find them repulsive.

    In his younger years, Eastwood was considered to be an exceptionally good looking man, almost at Pitt’s level. One recurring subtheme of his better known films is having to fight off not only girls but also guys as well.

    Certainly better looking than Bill Clinton. Clinton was always overweight and not all that in looks department. Of course, compared to most politicians, like Nixon, Hubert Humphrey, or Schumer than yes, he was good looking.

    Not sure how Trump was perceived back in the day.

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    I would say that Trump and Clinton are significantly above average in terms of looks. Not at the level of a Hollywood actor, of course. By contrast, Harvey Weinstein was well below average even when he was younger. Add to that some serious weight gain and the effects of aging and you have a man who is pretty much repulsive.

    I'm pretty confident that if Harvey Weinstein were fit with an above-average face, this thing would have been a good deal less likely to blow up.
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  123. @Steve Sailer
    Russell was out of work for about five years due to nasty behavior on set. George Clooney punched him out for screaming at some low level guy working on "Three Kings."

    Russell has made some pretty good movies since coming back. Whether he has improved his treatment of underlings since his long exile, I don't know. A lot of his movies involve mental illness, which I presume he has some familiarity with.

    He actually punched him out? The stated reason sounds like there’s more to it, like maybe they didn’t get along on the set during production. I never heard of an actor literally punching out a filmmaker while working on production.

    Back in the day, no one would’ve dared to punch out John Ford, for example.

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  124. @anonguy

    I basically agree. How attractive a man is physically makes a huge difference in how his conduct (or misconduct) is perceived by women. Clint Eastwood and Donald Trump and Bill Clinton may not be Brad Pitt, but they are both sufficiently attractive that most women would not find them repulsive.
     
    This is even more important as you get older. When guys are young, all of them will tend to engage in fairly aggressive advances/behavior with women.

    However, among older guys the first law of not being a creepy old dude is don't be hitting on the young ladies. It is icky. If one of them is interested, they will come on to you. They know you think they are hot without you telling them, you're an old guy.

    These are excellent common sense observations. One thing relating to Weinstein. Instead of trying his moves on Alisters and would be major actresses in Hollywood, the way for him to have gone would’ve been simply to quietly buy into an adult video studio, like Vivid, for example. This would accomplish two things:

    1. His casting couch antics would’ve been totally accepted. Par for the course in that world.

    2. If somehow word reached back to Mirimax, they’d have ignored it. A mover and shaker frequenting hookers. Like, this is Hollywood. Come on.

    3. The feminists wouldn’t have cared too bits about it. Most women don’t side with porn stars. They’d have shrugged it off “So? The girls had it coming and probably asked for it.”

    So, a loophole in your observation about older creepy guys would be, it’s okay if the girls are pornstars since they’re not particularly choosy and are used to guys hitting on them. I mean, what options do they have? Basically none.

    But being a silent partner in a porn studio would’ve been Harvey’s way to go. He’d have gotten away with getting some and no one would notice much less complain. It’s almost like he was trying to treat high end women like porn sluts and never figured out that he was playing in the wrong ballpark for that sort of thing.

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  125. L Woods says:
    @anonguy

    I basically agree. How attractive a man is physically makes a huge difference in how his conduct (or misconduct) is perceived by women. Clint Eastwood and Donald Trump and Bill Clinton may not be Brad Pitt, but they are both sufficiently attractive that most women would not find them repulsive.
     
    This is even more important as you get older. When guys are young, all of them will tend to engage in fairly aggressive advances/behavior with women.

    However, among older guys the first law of not being a creepy old dude is don't be hitting on the young ladies. It is icky. If one of them is interested, they will come on to you. They know you think they are hot without you telling them, you're an old guy.

    This is an anglosphere thing. Most societies aren’t so adamant that young women should go entirely to jocks/chads of their own age bracket.

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  126. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Director David O. Russell is now being sized up for the tumbrel:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/hollywood-terror-director-david-o-russells-history-of-groping-and-on-set-abuse

    He certainly does sound like a mean, selfish creep.

    Is Hollywood going to start condeming directors for being jerks? Aren't directors supposed to be sadistic jerks? I thought that Stanley Kubrick and William Friedkin were known for being insensitive jerks.

    I can't help but think that these guys are being offered up to the mob in order to squelch any investigation into deeper and darker things going on in Hollywood.

    I can’t help but think that these guys are being offered up to the mob in order to squelch any investigation into deeper and darker things going on in Hollywood.

    Goshdarnit Mr. Anon, even though at one time, you figuratviely ripped my heart from my chest while we were doing kata, you are STILL the best poster of all of the Unzistas….GRASSHOPPER.

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  127. Truth says:
    @anonguy

    I basically agree. How attractive a man is physically makes a huge difference in how his conduct (or misconduct) is perceived by women. Clint Eastwood and Donald Trump and Bill Clinton may not be Brad Pitt, but they are both sufficiently attractive that most women would not find them repulsive.
     
    This is even more important as you get older. When guys are young, all of them will tend to engage in fairly aggressive advances/behavior with women.

    However, among older guys the first law of not being a creepy old dude is don't be hitting on the young ladies. It is icky. If one of them is interested, they will come on to you. They know you think they are hot without you telling them, you're an old guy.

    Hey, you should ask Pat Boyle, and one other poster here, which one escapes me right now, 70+ year old ex probation officer. They both claim to have 25 year old models falling all over them for sex!

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  128. MEH 0910 says:

    Harlan Ellison and Connie Willis, at L.A.con IV, the 2006 World Science Fiction Convention, Anaheim Hilton, Anaheim, CA

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    Was Harlan Ellison related to Truman Capote? They could be brothers.
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  129. Daniel H says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Uh, Anthony Perkins.

    >>Uh, Anthony Perkins.

    Just because a dude copulates with women, marries one even, doesn’t make him straight, or “bisexual”. It’s the inner thoughts that matter. My guess is that every “bisexual” who has sexual relations with women is fantasizing about having sex with a man while he is doing the act. Many homosexual (formerly “bisexual”) will confirm this. They will tell you that their bisexual or straight phase was just an act, an unfulfilling and difficult act to pull off.

    Also, Anthony Perkins died of AIDS. Not exclusively, but most AIDS victims tended to be on the more homosexually promiscuous side of the gay demographic. That don’t sound “bisexual” to me.

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    Are you really interested in who is and who is not bi? And why, exactly?
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  130. AM says:
    @Corvinus
    "From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein."

    You are mistaking me for the commenter "Whorefinder". He, not I, is the one who has touted his conquests in the red light district. That would be low class. Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.

    "Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad."

    Weinstein nor Trump didn't discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.

    Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.

    LOL! Oh, you know where you slipped up Mr. Corvinus. Lots of “serious relationships” out there in rainbow of colors, by your own description. It’s the new (old) way to show love — sleep with anything that moves before, during, or after marriage. Unfortunately, a little too common of an experience at the age I’m guessing your writing puts you at.

    Although honestly, you’re so out there who know what your actual life story is. It’s the just part of the fun of the ‘Net. :)

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    "LOL! Oh, you know where you slipped up Mr. Corvinus. Lots of “serious relationships” out there in rainbow of colors, by your own description."

    Dear, you are flailing. You made this specific reference--"From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail..." Now, you compounded the issue by saying "by my own description" there are "lots of serious relationships". It is up to you to prove these assertions. What were my exact words in these specific instances?

    "It’s the new (old) way to show love — sleep with anything that moves before, during, or after marriage."

    So, by your metric, then Donald Trump is just as morally bankrupt as Harvey Weinstein.

    "I appreciate you dropping the pretentious Christian mask and just going with the atheism that was already there anyway. God actually does know and it wasn’t doing you a bit of good anyway."

    There isn't any mask. God will forgive me and you because we are sinners. And, you are right, God does know. You, however, do not know whether it "wasn't doing [me] a bit of good anyway". Truth always wins out.
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  131. Moshe says:
    @Mr. Anon

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?
     
    Because most people here already think O-Reilly is an ass and a tool. I can't recall anyone hereabouts having anything nice to say about him. I know I never have.

    Also, he was more circumspect in his harrassment, and was only being protected by Roger Ailes and a handful of others in the know. He didn't benefit by having his entire industry keep quiet about him.

    He had the entire right wing run cover for him.

    His first publicly admitted headliner and apology with a denial followed by a recording followed by an apology and a multimillion dollar pay off was over a decade ago.

    And until it became obvious that he was an enemy of trumpism half the country kept letting it slide.

    Now THAT’S a bit more of a story than some director of unimportant movies. (Not Weinstein)

    But again, there is a Jooz Narrative around here and highlighting O’Reilly hasn’t forwarded that so why bother mentioning it?

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    There were stories about O'Reilly's improprieties, and the settlements they spawned, going back years.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7578-2004Oct28.html

    There were also numerous stories about his legendary temper, including the famous video from his Entertainment Tonight days.

    The entire right didn't defend O'Reilly, just FOX News (whether they are really "right" or not is another matter). Presumably because the old folks loved him. Bill O'Reilly sold a lot of catheters and reverse mortgages, God bless him. Myself, I've always hated O'Reilly, who I find to be a braying, arrogant ass. And, my guess would be that most people who post here mostly share my opinion. So I really don't see your point.

    "But again, there is a Jooz Narrative around here and highlighting O’Reilly hasn’t forwarded that so why bother mentioning it?"

    So, is your "Jooz Narrative" that whenever a Jew is guilty of some offense - even when said offender is a major cultural figure with close ties to a major political party (I'm speaking of Weinstein here, not Toback who appears to be a has-been) it is of no import and there is nothing to see hear, move along?
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  132. AM says:
    @Corvinus
    "From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail, in a rainbow of colors, as Weinstein."

    You are mistaking me for the commenter "Whorefinder". He, not I, is the one who has touted his conquests in the red light district. That would be low class. Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.

    "Better, because you choose diversity where Weinstein just choose beautiful white women desperate to be actresses. That is not diversity at all. Sad."

    Weinstein nor Trump didn't discriminate when it came to skirt chasing.

    so why not be a good Christian girl [...] Because God is watching you closely.

    PS – I appreciate you dropping the pretentious Christian mask and just going with the atheism that was already there anyway. God actually does know and it wasn’t doing you a bit of good anyway. Better to be honest and come back than think it’s possible to hide from God.

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    Corvinus isn't dropping pretention. Pretention is all he's got.
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  133. AM says:
    @Jack D
    Except that according to what has leaked, all he did was send her sexually explicit emails. How this is worth $32M, I dunno. $32M was supposed to buy silence and he didn't even get silence so he should ask for his $ back. He was on TV this morning raging against God or something.

    . He was on TV this morning raging against God or something.

    All I know about O’Reilly, other than a Fox fan base, is a series of stupid books that by review I’ve seen are apparently poor researched and possibly ghost written.

    That he’s a “conservative” is not exciting. He sounds like a wanna be actor who had to settle for punditry.

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    Didn't he get his start on the tabloid show A Current Affair? O'Reilly missed his calling. He could've ended up on Harvey Weinstein's payroll with the two of them trying to pick up Hollywood tail.
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  134. Olorin says:
    @Truth
    Well I think the main issue here is that I think the gender roles are revered at home, Edith Bunker.

    ProTip:

    A guy who rinses and stacks the dirty dishes in the automated dishwashing machine while his wife gets 20 minutes to herself after shopping for, planning, and cooking a magnificent dinner over the course of hours…

    …gets a better daily menu than a guy who bitches about Norman Lear fantasy characters.

    Take her a glass of wine while she puts her feet up, and pretty soon TV doesn’t enter into it at all.

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  135. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Being a creep isn’t criminal.

    Creep Shaming = Slut Shaming. More or less.

    They are going to have to do better than this.

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  136. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    Corruption, collusion, coercion -- the 3 Cs of the Hollywood-Democrat nexus that goes back at least to the 1920s and Joe Kennedy Sr. JFK probably shagged more movie stars than any man in history, some during his brief time in the White House. A lot of Kennedy-history here to unpack.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/

    JFK probably shagged more movie stars than any man in history, some during his brief time in the White House.

    Not even remotely close.

    I’m not even sure he even bagged one really huge actress besides maybe Gloria Swanson, who his father had been banging for years, and of course Marilyn Monroe, although I don’t think they were quite as involved as the popular imagination supposes. There was certainly Angie Dickinson , who was at the periphery of the A-list. But Liz Taylor, or the older biggies like Bette Davis or Joan Crawford? Ava Gardner?

    Frank Sinatra by contrast……banged them all, except Angie, who was like a mascot to the Rat Pack.

    There were probably twenty or thirty guys in Hollywood that had a list ten times longer than JFK. At least of celebs: JFK had a lot of socialites and Fiddles and Faddles.

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    JFK didn't bang Swanson, who wasn't anywhere near the Alist by the time he became President. And she was in her sixties by that point. You may be thinking of him banging Marlene Dietrich, there was that internet rumor years ago. Oftentimes, because this is Hollywood, where BS (especially with sexcapades) is rampant, it's difficult to ascertain the truth. Some of the most poorly researched regarding bangs, is found among the Rat Pack legacy stuff. It's hard to prove either way. Oftentimes, if a hot woman was hanging around some of the guys, it was automatically assumed she was being banged. Perhaps, but perhaps not. You can't say with 100% certainty.

    Considering his profession, JFK had way more than his share, but you're right about him not getting anywhere close to the totals that many in Hollywood had. Also, as a public official, JFK couldn't move around the country as often when he was located in DC/MA for most of his Congressional career. Lack of opportunity as well as access (at least before he became President) would be what hindered JFK from reaching Hollywood totals in bangs.

    Probably the professions that get the most bang:

    1. Entertainers(Movie stars/musicians)
    2. Athletes

    Amazing how so few of these celebrities ever seem to get any STD's. Perhaps they aren't nearly as prevalent as the CDC and NIH have led us to believe. Or maybe they are officially attempting to bang-shame middle class Americans from attempting to act out what they read about and hear (e.g. that the top 1% get the most bang for their bucks). "No, no, having tons of bangs is no good for your health, you could get an STD! Pay no attention to those studs behind the curtain with tons every year, it's all gonna catch up to them sooner or later!"

    Never seemed to catch up to Wilt Chamberlain, and if there was one who was constantly locked and loaded it would've been him.

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  137. @Daniel H
    >>Uh, Anthony Perkins.

    Just because a dude copulates with women, marries one even, doesn't make him straight, or "bisexual". It's the inner thoughts that matter. My guess is that every "bisexual" who has sexual relations with women is fantasizing about having sex with a man while he is doing the act. Many homosexual (formerly "bisexual") will confirm this. They will tell you that their bisexual or straight phase was just an act, an unfulfilling and difficult act to pull off.

    Also, Anthony Perkins died of AIDS. Not exclusively, but most AIDS victims tended to be on the more homosexually promiscuous side of the gay demographic. That don't sound "bisexual" to me.

    Are you really interested in who is and who is not bi? And why, exactly?

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  138. @AM

    . He was on TV this morning raging against God or something.
     
    All I know about O'Reilly, other than a Fox fan base, is a series of stupid books that by review I've seen are apparently poor researched and possibly ghost written.

    That he's a "conservative" is not exciting. He sounds like a wanna be actor who had to settle for punditry.

    Didn’t he get his start on the tabloid show A Current Affair? O’Reilly missed his calling. He could’ve ended up on Harvey Weinstein’s payroll with the two of them trying to pick up Hollywood tail.

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  139. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "Yet another SJWesque comment on your part."

    No, just an observation. You lie a great deal. Or you are exceedingly stupid. Or both.

    "Indeed."

    You apparently don't know what the word "discriminating means". Unsurprising given your general ignorance.

    "Try again."

    Again, you're not very quick on the uptake are you? I said "freely admitted". Sure, there have been claims of aggressive come-ons by Trump. But he has never admitted to wrong-doing. Weinstein (now that he has been caught) has. Did Trump ever corner a woman in a restaruant and jack-off while staring at her? Did he ever force a woman down on a bed and dangle his junk in her face? Weinstein did, on several occasions, and - according to several women - more besides, up to and including rape.

    "What is pathetic is covering for a man who is equally skilled at immoral conduct."

    I'm not covering for anyone. You, however, seem to feel the need to cover for a pig like Weinstein.

    “No, just an observation. You lie a great deal. Or you are exceedingly stupid. Or both.”

    An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof.

    “You apparently don’t know what the word “discriminating means”. Unsurprising given your general ignorance.”

    Trump and Weinstein each were discriminating in their taste for women they could grope at worst or get into bed with at best.

    “Again, you’re not very quick on the uptake are you? I said “freely admitted”. Sure, there have been claims of aggressive come-ons by Trump. But he has never admitted to wrong-doing.”

    Trump rarely admits to wrong-doing when it comes to his decisions about women and how he handles them.

    “Weinstein (now that he has been caught) has.”

    Of course Weinstein is going to come clean. The jig is up. Trump so far has been able to stem the tide. We shall see if he is able to continue walking that fine line without getting it good and hard.

    “Did Trump ever corner a woman in a restaruant and jack-off while staring at her? Did he ever force a woman down on a bed and dangle his junk in her face? Weinstein did, on several occasions, and – according to several women – more besides, up to and including rape.”

    Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump’s conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble.

    The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women.

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    "An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof."

    Quit it with the "SJW" BS. You are the SJW, you liberal twit. You always try to couch your replies in what you imagine to be our lingo, but you don't even understand it very well. Being a dullard, there are many things you don't understand well.

    "Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump’s conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble."

    It is "other than on a par" with Weinstein's behavior.

    "The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women."

    No, that is not true. You are lying. Where is there an undisputed case of Trump doing such a thing? There were women who claimed as much, whose claims vanished after Trump threatened a libel suit. The only undisputed claims are of Trump propositioning women - not a crime, if I am not mistaken. And don't give me the "pussy-gate" line of BS. That was locker-room talk. None of that rises to the level of stalking, groping, public masturbation, and rape, all of which Weinstein has been credibly accused of, and much of which he has admitted to.
    , @Mr. Anon
    “An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof.”

    Quit it with the “SJW” BS. You are the SJW. You always try to couch your replies in what you imagine to be our lingo, but you don’t even understand it very well. Being a dullard, there are many things you don’t understand well.

    “Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump’s conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble.”

    It is “other than on a par” with Weinstein’s behavior.

    “The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women.”

    No, that is not true. You are lying. Where is there an undisputed case of Trump doing such a thing? There were women who claimed as much, whose claims vanished after Trump threatened a libel suit. The only undisputed claims are of Trump propositioning women – not a crime, if I am not mistaken. And don’t give me the “pussy-gate” line of BS. That was locker-room talk. None of that rises to the level of stalking, groping, public masturbation, and rape, all of which Weinstein has been credibly accused of, and much of which he has admitted to.
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  140. Corvinus says:
    @AM

    Now, there may have been a comment or two that escapes me, so why not be a good Christian girl and prove where I made those statements. Because God is watching you closely.
     
    LOL! Oh, you know where you slipped up Mr. Corvinus. Lots of "serious relationships" out there in rainbow of colors, by your own description. It's the new (old) way to show love -- sleep with anything that moves before, during, or after marriage. Unfortunately, a little too common of an experience at the age I'm guessing your writing puts you at.

    Although honestly, you're so out there who know what your actual life story is. It's the just part of the fun of the 'Net. :)

    “LOL! Oh, you know where you slipped up Mr. Corvinus. Lots of “serious relationships” out there in rainbow of colors, by your own description.”

    Dear, you are flailing. You made this specific reference–”From what you stated previously, you’ve gotten at least as much tail…” Now, you compounded the issue by saying “by my own description” there are “lots of serious relationships”. It is up to you to prove these assertions. What were my exact words in these specific instances?

    “It’s the new (old) way to show love — sleep with anything that moves before, during, or after marriage.”

    So, by your metric, then Donald Trump is just as morally bankrupt as Harvey Weinstein.

    “I appreciate you dropping the pretentious Christian mask and just going with the atheism that was already there anyway. God actually does know and it wasn’t doing you a bit of good anyway.”

    There isn’t any mask. God will forgive me and you because we are sinners. And, you are right, God does know. You, however, do not know whether it “wasn’t doing [me] a bit of good anyway”. Truth always wins out.

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  141. @MEH 0910

    Harlan Ellison and Connie Willis, at L.A.con IV, the 2006 World Science Fiction Convention, Anaheim Hilton, Anaheim, CA
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxd1jFDXzsU

    Was Harlan Ellison related to Truman Capote? They could be brothers.

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  142. @Anonymous

    JFK probably shagged more movie stars than any man in history, some during his brief time in the White House.
     
    Not even remotely close.

    I'm not even sure he even bagged one really huge actress besides maybe Gloria Swanson, who his father had been banging for years, and of course Marilyn Monroe, although I don't think they were quite as involved as the popular imagination supposes. There was certainly Angie Dickinson , who was at the periphery of the A-list. But Liz Taylor, or the older biggies like Bette Davis or Joan Crawford? Ava Gardner?


    Frank Sinatra by contrast......banged them all, except Angie, who was like a mascot to the Rat Pack.

    There were probably twenty or thirty guys in Hollywood that had a list ten times longer than JFK. At least of celebs: JFK had a lot of socialites and Fiddles and Faddles.

    JFK didn’t bang Swanson, who wasn’t anywhere near the Alist by the time he became President. And she was in her sixties by that point. You may be thinking of him banging Marlene Dietrich, there was that internet rumor years ago. Oftentimes, because this is Hollywood, where BS (especially with sexcapades) is rampant, it’s difficult to ascertain the truth. Some of the most poorly researched regarding bangs, is found among the Rat Pack legacy stuff. It’s hard to prove either way. Oftentimes, if a hot woman was hanging around some of the guys, it was automatically assumed she was being banged. Perhaps, but perhaps not. You can’t say with 100% certainty.

    Considering his profession, JFK had way more than his share, but you’re right about him not getting anywhere close to the totals that many in Hollywood had. Also, as a public official, JFK couldn’t move around the country as often when he was located in DC/MA for most of his Congressional career. Lack of opportunity as well as access (at least before he became President) would be what hindered JFK from reaching Hollywood totals in bangs.

    Probably the professions that get the most bang:

    1. Entertainers(Movie stars/musicians)
    2. Athletes

    Amazing how so few of these celebrities ever seem to get any STD’s. Perhaps they aren’t nearly as prevalent as the CDC and NIH have led us to believe. Or maybe they are officially attempting to bang-shame middle class Americans from attempting to act out what they read about and hear (e.g. that the top 1% get the most bang for their bucks). “No, no, having tons of bangs is no good for your health, you could get an STD! Pay no attention to those studs behind the curtain with tons every year, it’s all gonna catch up to them sooner or later!”

    Never seemed to catch up to Wilt Chamberlain, and if there was one who was constantly locked and loaded it would’ve been him.

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    Chamberlain's claim of 20K had to be bullshit by a factor of roughly ten.

    At any rate, I think you are right about Dietrich rather than Swanson. Both the father and the son had her. Swanson was born in 1899, Dietrich in 1901, and JFK himself in 1917. But apparently Swanson was a regular in the Kennedy household in the twenties or thirties, and so it would have been a lot more awkward for JFK.


    As far as VD, back then it was syphilis or clap mostly. Penicillin cured those. They didn't have AIDS and I don't think hepatitis from sex was an issue. In postwar America, the clap was almost a rite of passage. All the sailors talked about having had a dose and the painful Navy treatments, which depending on who was doing the telling, consisted of having one's infected member slammed with a heavy medical book or a catheter like device being threaded up the urethra and an expandable bulb being turned, then pulled out with a T-handle. Both were apparently excruciatingly painful.

    In women, of course, gonorrhea produced sterility through pelvic inflammatory disease if untreated and resulted in newborn infant blindness in women who gave birth with the condition, rather more serious. But all the hippie chicks talk about it with the same cavalier attitude as the men, for the most part. Chrissie Hynde admitted to having been treated for it in her recent autobiography. (Florence Henderson, no one's idea of a hippie, admitted in hers to having got crabs-pubic lice-from former Mayor of New York John Lindsay, but that's another matter.)

    Of course, clap and syphilis still exist, but no one I know has run into them since high school as far as I know. They seem to be the province of homosexuals and customers of prostitutes now.
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  143. Mr. Anon says:
    @Moshe
    He had the entire right wing run cover for him.

    His first publicly admitted headliner and apology with a denial followed by a recording followed by an apology and a multimillion dollar pay off was over a decade ago.

    And until it became obvious that he was an enemy of trumpism half the country kept letting it slide.

    Now THAT'S a bit more of a story than some director of unimportant movies. (Not Weinstein)

    But again, there is a Jooz Narrative around here and highlighting O'Reilly hasn't forwarded that so why bother mentioning it?

    There were stories about O’Reilly’s improprieties, and the settlements they spawned, going back years.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7578-2004Oct28.html

    There were also numerous stories about his legendary temper, including the famous video from his Entertainment Tonight days.

    The entire right didn’t defend O’Reilly, just FOX News (whether they are really “right” or not is another matter). Presumably because the old folks loved him. Bill O’Reilly sold a lot of catheters and reverse mortgages, God bless him. Myself, I’ve always hated O’Reilly, who I find to be a braying, arrogant ass. And, my guess would be that most people who post here mostly share my opinion. So I really don’t see your point.

    “But again, there is a Jooz Narrative around here and highlighting O’Reilly hasn’t forwarded that so why bother mentioning it?”

    So, is your “Jooz Narrative” that whenever a Jew is guilty of some offense – even when said offender is a major cultural figure with close ties to a major political party (I’m speaking of Weinstein here, not Toback who appears to be a has-been) it is of no import and there is nothing to see hear, move along?

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  144. MEH 0910 says:

    President George H.W. Bush APOLOGIZES after actress claimed he ‘sexually assaulted’ her and insists his ‘attempt at humor’ was misinterpreted

    An actress alleged that President George H.W. Bush ‘sexually assaulted’ her and touched her from behind while in his wheelchair, and now Bush has apologized saying it was an ‘attempt at humor.’

    Heather Lind, 34, who starred in AMC’s series ‘Turn: Washington’s Spies’ made the allegations against the 93-year-old former president on Instagram in a lengthy post with accompanying photos.

    ‘When I got the chance to meet George H. W. Bush four years ago to promote a historical television show I was working on, he sexually assaulted me while I was posing for a similar photo. He didn’t shake my hand. He touched me from behind from his wheelchair with his wife Barbara Bush by his side. He told me a dirty joke,’ Lind alleges.

    In a statement to DailyMail.com the former president responded: ‘President Bush would never — under any circumstance — intentionally cause anyone distress, and he most sincerely apologizes if his attempt at humor offended Ms. Lind.’

    Lind’s allegations did not end there, saying the touch happened a second time: ‘And then, all the while being photographed, touched me again. Barbara rolled her eyes as if to say ”not again”. His security guard told me I shouldn’t have stood next to him for the photo.’

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  145. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "No, just an observation. You lie a great deal. Or you are exceedingly stupid. Or both."

    An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof.

    "You apparently don’t know what the word “discriminating means”. Unsurprising given your general ignorance."

    Trump and Weinstein each were discriminating in their taste for women they could grope at worst or get into bed with at best.

    "Again, you’re not very quick on the uptake are you? I said “freely admitted”. Sure, there have been claims of aggressive come-ons by Trump. But he has never admitted to wrong-doing."

    Trump rarely admits to wrong-doing when it comes to his decisions about women and how he handles them.

    "Weinstein (now that he has been caught) has."

    Of course Weinstein is going to come clean. The jig is up. Trump so far has been able to stem the tide. We shall see if he is able to continue walking that fine line without getting it good and hard.

    "Did Trump ever corner a woman in a restaruant and jack-off while staring at her? Did he ever force a woman down on a bed and dangle his junk in her face? Weinstein did, on several occasions, and – according to several women – more besides, up to and including rape."

    Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump's conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble.

    The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women.

    “An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof.”

    Quit it with the “SJW” BS. You are the SJW, you liberal twit. You always try to couch your replies in what you imagine to be our lingo, but you don’t even understand it very well. Being a dullard, there are many things you don’t understand well.

    “Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump’s conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble.”

    It is “other than on a par” with Weinstein’s behavior.

    “The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women.”

    No, that is not true. You are lying. Where is there an undisputed case of Trump doing such a thing? There were women who claimed as much, whose claims vanished after Trump threatened a libel suit. The only undisputed claims are of Trump propositioning women – not a crime, if I am not mistaken. And don’t give me the “pussy-gate” line of BS. That was locker-room talk. None of that rises to the level of stalking, groping, public masturbation, and rape, all of which Weinstein has been credibly accused of, and much of which he has admitted to.

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    "Quit it with the “SJW” BS. You are the SJW, you liberal twit."

    I'm a moderate, not a liberal. Once again you are embracing SJW tactics. Have you no shame?

    "Where is there an undisputed case of Trump doing such a thing?"

    It's not about "undisputed cases". It's about a repeated pattern of vile, immoral behavior over decades. Basically, you are saying that while Trump's behavior is somewhat bad, Weinstein's conduct is worse. In reality, both are equally deplorable. Why can't you admit this immutable truth?

    "There were women who claimed as much, whose claims vanished after Trump threatened a libel suit."

    Which specific women? Furthermore, here is Trump's record when it comes to libel suits.

    http://www.medialaw.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3470

    "None of that rises to the level of stalking, groping, public masturbation, and rape, all of which Weinstein has been credibly accused of, and much of which he has admitted to."

    And another SJW tactic--minimizing a person's illicit behavior.
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  146. Mr. Anon says:
    @AM

    so why not be a good Christian girl [...] Because God is watching you closely.
     
    PS - I appreciate you dropping the pretentious Christian mask and just going with the atheism that was already there anyway. God actually does know and it wasn't doing you a bit of good anyway. Better to be honest and come back than think it's possible to hide from God.

    Corvinus isn’t dropping pretention. Pretention is all he’s got.

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    There are meds for hypertension, so why not for pretension?
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  147. Ragno says:
    @anonguy

    In the Weinstein tradition, another low hanging fruit (at least now in recent years) should be Clint Eastwood.
     
    Clint is too attractive for sexual harassment claims. Look at all the guys getting these serious, Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Toback, every one of these guys is a troll (live under the bridge type).

    They are creepy guys, even with all their money/fame (except maybe Toback), they have to be unduly pressuring women for sex rather than the women jumping on them.

    Women don't like creepy guys and these guys were all creeps who got an angle and exploited women with it rather than being studly guys who had a healthy sexual appetite. The potted plants, weird phones sex, frottage, etc.

    These guys are perverts and that is why all the women are coming out against them when the moment presented itself. It is why guys like Clinton, Wilt Chamberlain, etc, don't go down. Women don't view them as creepy.

    Again, the best defense against sexual harassment claims is to be attractive.

    Women don’t like creepy guys ….

    True dat. If poor Joe Spinnell weren’t dead, he’d be getting Sabrina Rubin Erdely’d on social media just for standing there.

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  148. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    JFK didn't bang Swanson, who wasn't anywhere near the Alist by the time he became President. And she was in her sixties by that point. You may be thinking of him banging Marlene Dietrich, there was that internet rumor years ago. Oftentimes, because this is Hollywood, where BS (especially with sexcapades) is rampant, it's difficult to ascertain the truth. Some of the most poorly researched regarding bangs, is found among the Rat Pack legacy stuff. It's hard to prove either way. Oftentimes, if a hot woman was hanging around some of the guys, it was automatically assumed she was being banged. Perhaps, but perhaps not. You can't say with 100% certainty.

    Considering his profession, JFK had way more than his share, but you're right about him not getting anywhere close to the totals that many in Hollywood had. Also, as a public official, JFK couldn't move around the country as often when he was located in DC/MA for most of his Congressional career. Lack of opportunity as well as access (at least before he became President) would be what hindered JFK from reaching Hollywood totals in bangs.

    Probably the professions that get the most bang:

    1. Entertainers(Movie stars/musicians)
    2. Athletes

    Amazing how so few of these celebrities ever seem to get any STD's. Perhaps they aren't nearly as prevalent as the CDC and NIH have led us to believe. Or maybe they are officially attempting to bang-shame middle class Americans from attempting to act out what they read about and hear (e.g. that the top 1% get the most bang for their bucks). "No, no, having tons of bangs is no good for your health, you could get an STD! Pay no attention to those studs behind the curtain with tons every year, it's all gonna catch up to them sooner or later!"

    Never seemed to catch up to Wilt Chamberlain, and if there was one who was constantly locked and loaded it would've been him.

    Chamberlain’s claim of 20K had to be bullshit by a factor of roughly ten.

    At any rate, I think you are right about Dietrich rather than Swanson. Both the father and the son had her. Swanson was born in 1899, Dietrich in 1901, and JFK himself in 1917. But apparently Swanson was a regular in the Kennedy household in the twenties or thirties, and so it would have been a lot more awkward for JFK.

    As far as VD, back then it was syphilis or clap mostly. Penicillin cured those. They didn’t have AIDS and I don’t think hepatitis from sex was an issue. In postwar America, the clap was almost a rite of passage. All the sailors talked about having had a dose and the painful Navy treatments, which depending on who was doing the telling, consisted of having one’s infected member slammed with a heavy medical book or a catheter like device being threaded up the urethra and an expandable bulb being turned, then pulled out with a T-handle. Both were apparently excruciatingly painful.

    In women, of course, gonorrhea produced sterility through pelvic inflammatory disease if untreated and resulted in newborn infant blindness in women who gave birth with the condition, rather more serious. But all the hippie chicks talk about it with the same cavalier attitude as the men, for the most part. Chrissie Hynde admitted to having been treated for it in her recent autobiography. (Florence Henderson, no one’s idea of a hippie, admitted in hers to having got crabs-pubic lice-from former Mayor of New York John Lindsay, but that’s another matter.)

    Of course, clap and syphilis still exist, but no one I know has run into them since high school as far as I know. They seem to be the province of homosexuals and customers of prostitutes now.

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    That's true. No one has ever really called BS on Wilt's claim. Perhaps Wilt was making a larger point that athletes get tons, which of course they do. He probably got several thousand, that's safe to say. But 20K? That's not possible, unless he was averaging something like about 1-2 per day during his prime.

    But several thousand is possible, just not 20K unless he was working overtime at it.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Hep now is a real thing and at various levels (A, B, C, D, etc). Also, don't forget herpes (which is incurable) and clamydia as well.
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  149. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "No, just an observation. You lie a great deal. Or you are exceedingly stupid. Or both."

    An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof.

    "You apparently don’t know what the word “discriminating means”. Unsurprising given your general ignorance."

    Trump and Weinstein each were discriminating in their taste for women they could grope at worst or get into bed with at best.

    "Again, you’re not very quick on the uptake are you? I said “freely admitted”. Sure, there have been claims of aggressive come-ons by Trump. But he has never admitted to wrong-doing."

    Trump rarely admits to wrong-doing when it comes to his decisions about women and how he handles them.

    "Weinstein (now that he has been caught) has."

    Of course Weinstein is going to come clean. The jig is up. Trump so far has been able to stem the tide. We shall see if he is able to continue walking that fine line without getting it good and hard.

    "Did Trump ever corner a woman in a restaruant and jack-off while staring at her? Did he ever force a woman down on a bed and dangle his junk in her face? Weinstein did, on several occasions, and – according to several women – more besides, up to and including rape."

    Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump's conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble.

    The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women.

    “An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof.”

    Quit it with the “SJW” BS. You are the SJW. You always try to couch your replies in what you imagine to be our lingo, but you don’t even understand it very well. Being a dullard, there are many things you don’t understand well.

    “Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump’s conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble.”

    It is “other than on a par” with Weinstein’s behavior.

    “The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women.”

    No, that is not true. You are lying. Where is there an undisputed case of Trump doing such a thing? There were women who claimed as much, whose claims vanished after Trump threatened a libel suit. The only undisputed claims are of Trump propositioning women – not a crime, if I am not mistaken. And don’t give me the “pussy-gate” line of BS. That was locker-room talk. None of that rises to the level of stalking, groping, public masturbation, and rape, all of which Weinstein has been credibly accused of, and much of which he has admitted to.

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  150. Tulip says:

    Looks like our meritocratic elite and our cuckservative elite are both slinging some fishy stories.

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  151. sabril says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    In his younger years, Eastwood was considered to be an exceptionally good looking man, almost at Pitt's level. One recurring subtheme of his better known films is having to fight off not only girls but also guys as well.

    Certainly better looking than Bill Clinton. Clinton was always overweight and not all that in looks department. Of course, compared to most politicians, like Nixon, Hubert Humphrey, or Schumer than yes, he was good looking.

    Not sure how Trump was perceived back in the day.

    I would say that Trump and Clinton are significantly above average in terms of looks. Not at the level of a Hollywood actor, of course. By contrast, Harvey Weinstein was well below average even when he was younger. Add to that some serious weight gain and the effects of aging and you have a man who is pretty much repulsive.

    I’m pretty confident that if Harvey Weinstein were fit with an above-average face, this thing would have been a good deal less likely to blow up.

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    Donald Trump used to be a very handsome man, well into his forties, while Bill Clinton has always been average-looking and slightly overweight.
    As for Harvey Weinstein, he's always had that look of film henchman, which is definitely virile. I guess he's really into kinky stuff, because he could have had a normal sexual life.
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  152. @Anonymous
    Chamberlain's claim of 20K had to be bullshit by a factor of roughly ten.

    At any rate, I think you are right about Dietrich rather than Swanson. Both the father and the son had her. Swanson was born in 1899, Dietrich in 1901, and JFK himself in 1917. But apparently Swanson was a regular in the Kennedy household in the twenties or thirties, and so it would have been a lot more awkward for JFK.


    As far as VD, back then it was syphilis or clap mostly. Penicillin cured those. They didn't have AIDS and I don't think hepatitis from sex was an issue. In postwar America, the clap was almost a rite of passage. All the sailors talked about having had a dose and the painful Navy treatments, which depending on who was doing the telling, consisted of having one's infected member slammed with a heavy medical book or a catheter like device being threaded up the urethra and an expandable bulb being turned, then pulled out with a T-handle. Both were apparently excruciatingly painful.

    In women, of course, gonorrhea produced sterility through pelvic inflammatory disease if untreated and resulted in newborn infant blindness in women who gave birth with the condition, rather more serious. But all the hippie chicks talk about it with the same cavalier attitude as the men, for the most part. Chrissie Hynde admitted to having been treated for it in her recent autobiography. (Florence Henderson, no one's idea of a hippie, admitted in hers to having got crabs-pubic lice-from former Mayor of New York John Lindsay, but that's another matter.)

    Of course, clap and syphilis still exist, but no one I know has run into them since high school as far as I know. They seem to be the province of homosexuals and customers of prostitutes now.

    That’s true. No one has ever really called BS on Wilt’s claim. Perhaps Wilt was making a larger point that athletes get tons, which of course they do. He probably got several thousand, that’s safe to say. But 20K? That’s not possible, unless he was averaging something like about 1-2 per day during his prime.

    But several thousand is possible, just not 20K unless he was working overtime at it.

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  153. @Anonymous
    Chamberlain's claim of 20K had to be bullshit by a factor of roughly ten.

    At any rate, I think you are right about Dietrich rather than Swanson. Both the father and the son had her. Swanson was born in 1899, Dietrich in 1901, and JFK himself in 1917. But apparently Swanson was a regular in the Kennedy household in the twenties or thirties, and so it would have been a lot more awkward for JFK.


    As far as VD, back then it was syphilis or clap mostly. Penicillin cured those. They didn't have AIDS and I don't think hepatitis from sex was an issue. In postwar America, the clap was almost a rite of passage. All the sailors talked about having had a dose and the painful Navy treatments, which depending on who was doing the telling, consisted of having one's infected member slammed with a heavy medical book or a catheter like device being threaded up the urethra and an expandable bulb being turned, then pulled out with a T-handle. Both were apparently excruciatingly painful.

    In women, of course, gonorrhea produced sterility through pelvic inflammatory disease if untreated and resulted in newborn infant blindness in women who gave birth with the condition, rather more serious. But all the hippie chicks talk about it with the same cavalier attitude as the men, for the most part. Chrissie Hynde admitted to having been treated for it in her recent autobiography. (Florence Henderson, no one's idea of a hippie, admitted in hers to having got crabs-pubic lice-from former Mayor of New York John Lindsay, but that's another matter.)

    Of course, clap and syphilis still exist, but no one I know has run into them since high school as far as I know. They seem to be the province of homosexuals and customers of prostitutes now.

    Hep now is a real thing and at various levels (A, B, C, D, etc). Also, don’t forget herpes (which is incurable) and clamydia as well.

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  154. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "An observation that is rooted in SJW logic, or lack thereof."

    Quit it with the "SJW" BS. You are the SJW, you liberal twit. You always try to couch your replies in what you imagine to be our lingo, but you don't even understand it very well. Being a dullard, there are many things you don't understand well.

    "Heinous acts, to be sure. But what you are doing here is trying to make it appear that Trump’s conduct is other than on par with Weinstein. How noble."

    It is "other than on a par" with Weinstein's behavior.

    "The fact remains that Trump, like Weinstein, have a long-standing record on how they force themselves onto women."

    No, that is not true. You are lying. Where is there an undisputed case of Trump doing such a thing? There were women who claimed as much, whose claims vanished after Trump threatened a libel suit. The only undisputed claims are of Trump propositioning women - not a crime, if I am not mistaken. And don't give me the "pussy-gate" line of BS. That was locker-room talk. None of that rises to the level of stalking, groping, public masturbation, and rape, all of which Weinstein has been credibly accused of, and much of which he has admitted to.

    “Quit it with the “SJW” BS. You are the SJW, you liberal twit.”

    I’m a moderate, not a liberal. Once again you are embracing SJW tactics. Have you no shame?

    “Where is there an undisputed case of Trump doing such a thing?”

    It’s not about “undisputed cases”. It’s about a repeated pattern of vile, immoral behavior over decades. Basically, you are saying that while Trump’s behavior is somewhat bad, Weinstein’s conduct is worse. In reality, both are equally deplorable. Why can’t you admit this immutable truth?

    “There were women who claimed as much, whose claims vanished after Trump threatened a libel suit.”

    Which specific women? Furthermore, here is Trump’s record when it comes to libel suits.

    http://www.medialaw.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3470

    “None of that rises to the level of stalking, groping, public masturbation, and rape, all of which Weinstein has been credibly accused of, and much of which he has admitted to.”

    And another SJW tactic–minimizing a person’s illicit behavior.

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  155. BB753 says:
    @sabril
    I would say that Trump and Clinton are significantly above average in terms of looks. Not at the level of a Hollywood actor, of course. By contrast, Harvey Weinstein was well below average even when he was younger. Add to that some serious weight gain and the effects of aging and you have a man who is pretty much repulsive.

    I'm pretty confident that if Harvey Weinstein were fit with an above-average face, this thing would have been a good deal less likely to blow up.

    Donald Trump used to be a very handsome man, well into his forties, while Bill Clinton has always been average-looking and slightly overweight.
    As for Harvey Weinstein, he’s always had that look of film henchman, which is definitely virile. I guess he’s really into kinky stuff, because he could have had a normal sexual life.

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  156. CJ says:

    Very late indeed to be posting, but this related story in the HuffPo may make you laugh. It was originally titled, “James Toback Gets Us, He Really Gets Us” by E. Nina Rothe, Cultural Activist. Oh yeah … it was an adulatory rave from a bimbo about interviewing Toback at the Venice Film Festival re his film The Private Life of a Modern Woman. It’s now been hastily and comically edited due to recent media eruptions.

    In light of the recent article published in the LA Times, I’d like to remind readers that this blog is based on my personal encounter with James Toback and his film — which explained so much about my own experience growing up as a woman in NYC and I still urge other women to watch — during a period of nearly a week at the Venice Film Festival. I feel sadness and true sorrow for the women who had a different experience with the filmmaker, and I point out that these are my views, not the views of HuffPost.

    I’ve also changed the title to suit female readers and Twitterers who objected to being included in my musings by my use of the word “us”. This is a personal viewpoint. I repeat, personal and different. I believe we’re still allowed that, to be different in our thoughts, even in 21st Century Trump America?

    The original piece, titled “James Toback Gets Us, He Truly Gets Us in ‘The Private Life of a Modern Woman’” continues here:

    James Toback Gets Me, He Truly Gets Me? In ‘The Private Life of a Modern Woman’

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  157. Ivy says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Corvinus isn't dropping pretention. Pretention is all he's got.

    There are meds for hypertension, so why not for pretension?

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  158. MEH 0910 says:

    Noah Millman was more animal than man:

    Why men need to fess up

    Speaking for myself, at least three #MeToo posts in my Facebook feed came from women who might well, among other experiences, be thinking about me. There’s the former colleague who used to joke about how blatantly I would check her out. There’s the ex-girlfriend who broke things off in part because of one night where she felt I hadn’t listened to what her body language was saying about what she wanted, or didn’t want. There’s the former classmate who I couldn’t keep my hands off of in high school — a common enough occurrence in my teenage years that I acquired a nickname. I was known as “hands across America.”

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  159. MarcB. says:
    @Nico
    I'm not certain the witch hunt will get that far. The Trump victory exposed among other thing a significant amount of Intersectional Fatigue. The #metoo hashtag has inspired quite a bit of eye-rolling among the men I know and for a good reason: for at least six years now we've been treated to almost daily insinuations in the press that if we're not rapists or sexual offenders one of the guys in our close circle of friends almost certainly is. Just last night a female friend of 17 years told me, flat out, that any of my male friends who made light of that hash tag are not good people and when I begged to differ she said they might be good to me but probably not in general.

    Really, what self-respecting man could possibly take that sentiment seriously? I shrugged it off: I know by now there is no point arguing about such things. In the age of social media enough women are willing to flash the purely "feminine" sphere publicly in mixed company that I just leave it to them. (That by the way is the best way to win female attention: if they think you're not paying enough to them they'll up the ante.)

    But the point is, if enough important men lose interest in the witch hunt (and I suspect many of them will quickly realize they will get caught in their own webs if it goes on too long/hard) the SJW Dianas' bankrolling could dry up pretty fast.

    (That by the way is the best way to win female attention: if they think you’re not paying enough to them they’ll up the ante.)

    The better looking a young woman is, the more accustomed she has become to a significant amount of male attention. When it is in short supply, their behavior will change in an effort to acquire it, even from males that don’t quite measure up.

    The handsome, confident and successful guys they typically date only have so much of it to give, so they will seek it from service staff and the like. Guys often misinterpret this for genuine attraction instead of attention whoring, but on occasion an average guy who is visibly underwhelmed by a hot female presents a challenge that can spark attraction where none existed previously.

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  160. @Almost Missouri
    Isn't Steve Colbert homosexual? I don't have any inside dope and don't watch whatever his show is; he just looks really gay.

    Colbert has been married 24 years and has 3 children. I concede this doesn’t make him straight per se.

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  161. @Mr. Anon

    It’s odd that we have read so little here about Bill O’Reilly. I wonder why that is?
     
    Because most people here already think O-Reilly is an ass and a tool. I can't recall anyone hereabouts having anything nice to say about him. I know I never have.

    Also, he was more circumspect in his harrassment, and was only being protected by Roger Ailes and a handful of others in the know. He didn't benefit by having his entire industry keep quiet about him.

    According to Zev Chafets Rush Limbaugh refers to Bill O’Reilly as Ted Baxter.

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