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Le Monde: "Sickle Cell Disease, the Genetic Disease That Excites the Extreme Right"

With more car-be-ques and anti-police race riots in France this week following the police abuse of a black youth named “Theo,” the question of the current and future racial and ethnic makeup of the population resident in France becomes ever more interesting.

As I wrote in my Taki’s Magazine column this week, “Le Grand Remplacement,” unlike in the U.S., there’s no official count of residents of France by race or ethnicity.

In general, the people who want more immigration into France don’t want anybody to know too accurately how much there has been in the past. Ignorance is bliss. In contrast, those who are concerned about future immigration policy want to know more accurately about the present reality, for which they are looked down upon.

The French Establishment is overcome with indignation whenever anybody tries to estimate, such as by using statistics on the percentage of newborns who get tested for the genetic disorder sickle cell anemia because both parents come from parts of the world where the hereditary illness is endemic: I.e., most of Africa, much of the Middle East, India, Indian Ocean islands, and black parts of the New World.

But it also includes the southernmost parts of Europe such as Sicily and Greece. Nobody seems to know how many purely European babies get tested due to both parents being from parts of Europe once plagued by falciparum malaria. So,

As I pointed out, in 2015, 38.9% of newborns in France were tested as being at risk of sickle cell anemia, up from 25.5% in 2005.

I pointed out three sizable methodological issues in my column that should be taken into account:

- Some numbers of wholly European babies are tested because both parents come from the southernmost parts of Europe.

- Some babies who are as black as Barack Obama are not tested because one parent is northern European.

- All nonwhite Indochinese, East Asians, and Polynesians are not tested.

This first methodological factor would artificially inflate the nonwhite percentage estimated from sickle cell testing, while the latter two would artificially deflate it.

But this kind of analysis is not tres chic, however. From Le Monde in 2014 via Google Translate:

Sickle cell disease, the genetic disease that excites the extreme right

The statistics on this genetic disease are brandished by identity activists as a “proof” of the “migratory invasion”. But their arguments do not hold.

Home | 12.09.2014 at 18:04 • Updated 27.11.2014 with 17:18 | By Alexandre Léchenet and Samuel Laurent

This is the “proof” of the “invasion” of immigrants, brandished by the extreme right in a growing number of speeches. It is cited on websites, blogs , countless comments or messages on social networks : screening for sickle – cell disease, a genetic disorder that particularly affects certain populations from overseas , Africa or the Maghreb , Is being used by extremist militants.

Most of the article is devoted to explaining why it’s racist to think about genetics. For example, a baby whose parents are, says, immigrants from Poland would not be tested, while black or North African babies whose parents were born in France would be tested, so this figure isn’t a good measure of immigrants:

Families from the Caribbean, French for about ten generations, will be tested, when a couple of foreigners from Eastern Europe will not be tested.

Okay …

Nor is it a good measure of Muslims, since lots of French-speaking black Africans aren’t Muslims. For example, poor Theo doesn’t sound like he has a Muslim name.

But …

I did find one new methodological factor:

What is meant by “coming from a region at risk” and how, in practice, is screening performed? The practice is not very clear. The official reports do not detail it. “In practice,” explains Valérie Gauthereau, director of the Parisian federation of screening , we try in the maternity centers to target people of Maghrebian or African origin. ”

Targeting is done on rather informal criteria: facies parents name family … but that may have misfired. This is why, in the Ile-de-France , for example , “some maternity target 100% of the population, to be certain not to miss a case,” yet says M me Gauthereau.

So, at some hospitals in Greater Paris, population 12 million out of France’s total population of 66 million, the percentage of babies needing the test is so high that they just test all the babies. That would inflate the national figure somewhat.

Of course, if Le Monde were actually interested in finding out the real numbers, they could dispatch a reporter to visit a few maternity wards to see how sickle cell testing decisions are made in practice.

But who wants to know what the real numbers are?

Racists, that’s who!

So most of the article is devoted to explaining why thinking systematically about ancestry is racist. Here’s the ending:

The hysteria maintained by the extreme right around sickle cell disease only masks the racism of the proponents of these theories: this is not talking about immigration, since people not born in France but originating Eastern Europe or the American continent are not detected, while those born to a couple whose great-grandparents are from Africa or the Maghreb, although French for three generations, are .

In fact, what the identary activists are trying to talk about here is the issue of ethnicity. What concerns them is non-”white” births, whether they come from people of French nationality or not, and whether these people are integrated or not.

The case of the West Indians is emblematic here: these populations can be “more French” than the right-wing activists from the third or fourth generation of Italian, Polish or other immigration; They will still be counted in their mapping of the “big replacement”. This is a sign that it is not a matter of talking about integration or migratory flows, but about “races”.

Well, yeah …

Here in the United States, the Obama Administration spent hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars to count by race, but that doesn’t raise Le Monde’s ire. In France, some amateurs have found a clever way to estimate answers to questions about France that the Obama Administration spent a fortune to calculate in the U.S., but that is BAD.

Because who counts whom is what counts, not what the truth may be.

 
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  1. Is it even possible to talk this way about race in France and not end up in prison? If not, this is a great scam. First prohibit the topic, then when people are forced to discuss it indirectly, making a big deal about how they’re being dishonest.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Good point: any open and frank discussion of race, except, I suppose, to praise diversity to the skies, can be prosecuted as "incitement to racial hatred." Police monitor Twitter accounts.

    There was a song in the 1970s (I think that it was "Total Eclipse of the Heart") that had a line something like: "We're sitting on a powder keg and giving off sparks!" That's France in 2017.

    , @Mr. Anon

    Is it even possible to talk this way about race in France and not end up in prison? If not, this is a great scam. First prohibit the topic, then when people are forced to discuss it indirectly, making a big deal about how they’re being dishonest.
     
    This is done all the time by liberals/leftists: Villify anyone who talks honestly about social realities, and then accuse them of emitting "dog whistles" when they still try to speak of them in the only ways that remain.
    , @Anonymous
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  2. When is the left going to realize that telling people “You have the right to die out” doesn’t sit well with people?

    So tone deaf. Many such cases. Sad!

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The modern lefty, (or Economist Magazine, for that matter), position is that an indigenous, ethnic Frenchmen - all of whose forbears lived in France for many thousands of years, (believe it or not such persons still exist), has no more 'right' to France than a random Bangladeshi who has never left Dacca, who cannot speak French, and can't locate France on a map.

    And I'm not lying or exaggerating. That is what we are up against.
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    One of the reasons they don’t count by race is that many of the native French smell almost as bad as the Maghrebis and Africans do.

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  4. In fairness to France, a lot of the rhetoric about “immigration,” in the U.S. is code for race as well. If African refugees were Dutch Boers from South Africa (whose claim to refugee status is quite good) we would be having a debate, but it would be a different one from the one that we’re having.

    I’ve lived recently in Paris and Toulouse: the fact of racial dispossession and replacement is evident to anyone with eyes to see.

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    • Replies: @IA
    When I lived in Paris 2003-5 French companies (and maybe the government for all I know) had no affirmative action quotas and actively made an effort NOT to hire people with non-European names. Because it's very hard to fire anyone in France. I assume this is still the case?
  5. @kihowi
    Is it even possible to talk this way about race in France and not end up in prison? If not, this is a great scam. First prohibit the topic, then when people are forced to discuss it indirectly, making a big deal about how they're being dishonest.

    Good point: any open and frank discussion of race, except, I suppose, to praise diversity to the skies, can be prosecuted as “incitement to racial hatred.” Police monitor Twitter accounts.

    There was a song in the 1970s (I think that it was “Total Eclipse of the Heart”) that had a line something like: “We’re sitting on a powder keg and giving off sparks!” That’s France in 2017.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Welsh lass, Bonnie Tyler, 1983.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    “Total Eclipse of the Heart” had the most over-the-top video ever, enhanced by the literal lyrics version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsgWUq0fdKk
  6. Based on this chart:

    https://identitairepur.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tableau-evolution-drepano-france-2006-2012.jpg

    We see for 2012, there were about 800,000 births in France. Looking at actual cases of sickle cell disease, which strongly implies two black parents, there were 310. In the USA, the rate of these for black births is about 1/500. In France it is likely a bit higher since our “black” population is about ~78% African, but in France it is likely closer to 95-100%.

    This implies 400 * 310 or 124,000 births in France to two black parents. This is 15.5% of total 2012 births, meaning France’s 5 year old children are roughly as black as the USA.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    So if 15.5% of births in France are to two black parents, what percentage of babies born in France are to two non-black North Africans/Middle Easterners?

    What percentage to one black parent? What percentage to one MENA parent?

    , @Lot
    Here's the blog that included the graphic I linked to.

    https://identitairepur.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/le-grand-remplacement-par-ab/

    The author estimates France is currently 20% "extra-European"
    , @anon

    In France it is likely a bit higher since our “black” population is about ~78% African, but in France it is likely closer to 95-100%.
     
    100% wrong

    http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-sickle-cell-births-per-year.html


    The occurrence of the disease is high in Africa due to the predominance of malaria. The disease is more dominant 10-40%, in equatorial countries of Africa and less 1-2%, in North Africa and less than 1% in South Africa. West African countries report the highest prevalence of about 25% of the population.
     
    The prevalence in west Africa is ten times the prevalence in north Africa.
    African-Americans have mostly West African ancestry.
    The French equivalent is mostly north Africa.

    Your trick is to equate "Africa" with "west Africa."

    So given

    https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/sickle-cell-disease#statistics


    Sickle cell disease is the most common inherited blood disorder in the United States, affecting 70,000 to 80,000 Americans. The disease is estimated to occur in 1 in 500 African Americans and 1 in 1,000 to 1,400 Hispanic Americans.
     
    a population with higher west African ancestry will have a higher rate of sickle cell so there is absolutely no chance the 1 in 500 rate in the US is going to be 1 in 400 in France.

    If the percentage of west African ancestry is lower in France - which it is - the rate will be lower not higher - so 1 in 500 is the maximum (and only possible if the French percentage of west African was the same as the US which it isn't) and the real value will be somewhere between 1 in 500 up to the rate quoted for hispanics* or maybe even higher.

    (*as hispanics get the African part of their ancestry via Atlantic Creole who were also west African)

    So between 1 in 500 and (1 in 1200*)

    (*taking the average of the quoted hispanic rates in lieu of knowing what the north African rate is)

    this gives 310 x (500-1200)

    i.e 155,000 to 372,000

    minimum 20% up to 46%

    easily enough for the majority of all births in the big cities and the majority in working class areas elsewhere

    anyone who knows what has happened in the working class areas of European cities over the last 20-30 years knows this is true and knows it's a giant tinder box waiting to explode

    France and Sweden first

    #

    given

    10-40% prevalence in west africa
    1-2% prevalance in north africa
    1 in 500 rate in US among population among 78% west african
    if you knew the north vs west african proportions in France you could probably calculate a better estimate of the actual rate in France rather than just guess using the hispanic rate

  7. Le Monde actually recorded a right wing statistician in an unguarded moment, talking about Sickle Cell Anemia.

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  8. @kihowi
    Is it even possible to talk this way about race in France and not end up in prison? If not, this is a great scam. First prohibit the topic, then when people are forced to discuss it indirectly, making a big deal about how they're being dishonest.

    Is it even possible to talk this way about race in France and not end up in prison? If not, this is a great scam. First prohibit the topic, then when people are forced to discuss it indirectly, making a big deal about how they’re being dishonest.

    This is done all the time by liberals/leftists: Villify anyone who talks honestly about social realities, and then accuse them of emitting “dog whistles” when they still try to speak of them in the only ways that remain.

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  9. By the 2070s, projecting longstanding trends, France will be a country where 90% of births will be to introgressers and only 10% to founders. If this was a proper war the generals would have to concede France has been lost.

    The issue is being forced to a question of whether France will expell the introgressors, perhaps by paying them to leave. King Edward expelled the Jews from England (all 3000 of them) in 1290 but will France expell the millions of barbarians in their midst? The cost would be staggering, perhaps a trillion franks or more. But can France afford not to?

    I’d pay ‘em to leave if I were you.

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    • Replies: @D. K.
    How much would it cost to do just a mandatory spay-and-neutering program?
    , @oddsbodkins
    France has gone over the waterfall. It will either descend into a race war or cease to exist in the next 50 years.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    If the colonists take over, and run it according to their own heritage customs, France will descend into a patchwork of chaos, no longer a nation-state, merely a geographical zone infested with violently contesting little fiefdoms or tribes, producing little or nothing; cities will cease to exist unless supplies are somehow bought and paid for as imports. Using what? Selling women as slaves? I don't doubt the vineyards would be first to go in a multi-kulti conflict. And unpasteurised cheese is hard to export.
    The Italy of the condottieri would look orderly, cultured and civilised in comparison.

    At that point, ze Chermans will decide that enough disorder at such proximity is genug, and pull on their Knobelbecher one more time.

    , @lavoisier
    Not going to happen for France. I think they are likely doomed to descend into a hellhole. They simply do not have enough patriotic people of intelligence and fighting spirit willing to defend their nation from the human plagues imposed on them by the madness of liberalism. Bataclan and the response of the French people to that massacre convinced me that France is doomed.

    I think the situation may be different in Germany and England and Austria, although I could be wrong. In those countries they are surely infected with the liberal virus as well, but there may be enough of a critical mass of patriots who will eventually wake up and fight for the survival of their nation.

    Call it a working hypothesis to estimate the ability of a Western nation to survive the madness of the collectivist liberal ideology. And I use liberal liberally, meaning the unthinking cultural marxist egalitarianism that has infected the Western republics.

    One could actually derive a simple equation as follows: If X, the fraction of patriots divided by the fraction of white liberals in a country is less than 1/2, the nation will continue to make bad decisons,will be unable to defend itself, and will descend into chaos. In other words, and I realize this is very imprecise, when liberals exceed patriots by a factor of 2 or more, that society is doomed. The number may even be less than this but you get my point.

    In France and Sweden X is likely less than 1/2 so they are doomed. But I think that England and Austria are still greater than 1/2, so they have a real chance to win. I also believe that eventually slumbering German patriots will wake up to the madness that has been imposed on them and start to fight back. I am surprised it has not happened yet, so my assessment may be way off, as the browbeating they have taken over the years over Hitler may have damaged them beyond repair.

    The United States is also likely to be able to defeat this liberal monster given the large number of patriots in the nation and the smaller number in relative terms of liberals. Furthermore, many patriots are armed and know how to fight. But this victory will not come without a substantial cost that would have been unnecessary if the liberal madness had been put in its place years ago. On another note, I suspect our more favorable ratio of patriots to liberals has been strengthened by our longer and more intimate experience with black dysfunction, which often wakes up the most obtuse libtard when they experience what their philosophy has wrought first hand--like a felonious assault.

    But France is doomed.

  10. @Lot
    Based on this chart:

    https://identitairepur.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tableau-evolution-drepano-france-2006-2012.jpg

    We see for 2012, there were about 800,000 births in France. Looking at actual cases of sickle cell disease, which strongly implies two black parents, there were 310. In the USA, the rate of these for black births is about 1/500. In France it is likely a bit higher since our "black" population is about ~78% African, but in France it is likely closer to 95-100%.

    This implies 400 * 310 or 124,000 births in France to two black parents. This is 15.5% of total 2012 births, meaning France's 5 year old children are roughly as black as the USA.

    So if 15.5% of births in France are to two black parents, what percentage of babies born in France are to two non-black North Africans/Middle Easterners?

    What percentage to one black parent? What percentage to one MENA parent?

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    • Replies: @Lot
    In 2015 53.544% of births in the United States were to non-hispanic white women:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db258_table.pdf

    The USA was about 62.5% NSW that year, so the white mother birth share ratio is .856 of the white population share. Seems like this should allow at least a rough estimate for France.

    Taking the 80/20 estimate of race in France I linked to above, the white women share of births in France would be 68.5%. I have no clue what percentage of those births are with non-white fathers. If I had to guess, I'd say 6%, providing a figure of 64.4% of births in France being to two white parents.

    Putting this all together:
    64.4% two white parent births
    15.5% two black parent births
    ~6% one white parent birth (I'm guessing white men have interracial children at half the rate of white women)

    That leaves about 15% for all the rest of France's births.
    , @Veritatis
    Link to a french population article, with name of statistician, who recently published a "Statistiques ethniques" book. Site is conservative/nationalist.

    http://www.fdesouche.com/820873-augmentation-de-43-du-nombre-de-subsahariens-en-france-depuis-2011

    I didn't read carefully, but you might find the info you are looking for.

    By the way, have you looked into the Macron candidacy? A young debonair candidate, arriving from nowhere via Rothschild Frs with a saintly halo, a wife 24 yr his senior and heading a movement called En Marche!
    , @anon
    the prevalence of sickle cell in north africa is 10x lower than west africa

    his numbers are based on the rates being the same i.e. totally bogus
  11. @Lot
    Based on this chart:

    https://identitairepur.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tableau-evolution-drepano-france-2006-2012.jpg

    We see for 2012, there were about 800,000 births in France. Looking at actual cases of sickle cell disease, which strongly implies two black parents, there were 310. In the USA, the rate of these for black births is about 1/500. In France it is likely a bit higher since our "black" population is about ~78% African, but in France it is likely closer to 95-100%.

    This implies 400 * 310 or 124,000 births in France to two black parents. This is 15.5% of total 2012 births, meaning France's 5 year old children are roughly as black as the USA.

    Here’s the blog that included the graphic I linked to.

    https://identitairepur.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/le-grand-remplacement-par-ab/

    The author estimates France is currently 20% “extra-European”

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    • Replies: @BB753
    It sounds about right. Some parts of France are still less than 5% extra - European, while other parts are 30% or more, like the Paris or Marseilles area.
    , @anon

    The author estimates France is currently 20% “extra-European”
     
    And as you've been shown numerous times

    if
    - 20% of a population constitutes say 40% of the breeding age population
    - that sub population has a TFR 2x the rest
    then that 20% would produce 57% of the children

    the media lie about this to keep the victims of the replacement sedated
  12. @Trelane
    By the 2070s, projecting longstanding trends, France will be a country where 90% of births will be to introgressers and only 10% to founders. If this was a proper war the generals would have to concede France has been lost.

    The issue is being forced to a question of whether France will expell the introgressors, perhaps by paying them to leave. King Edward expelled the Jews from England (all 3000 of them) in 1290 but will France expell the millions of barbarians in their midst? The cost would be staggering, perhaps a trillion franks or more. But can France afford not to?

    I'd pay 'em to leave if I were you.

    How much would it cost to do just a mandatory spay-and-neutering program?

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    • Replies: @ben tillman

    How much would it cost to do just a mandatory spay-and-neutering program?
     
    Nothing, because they would self-deport?
  13. I am sure that many of you remember Tom Wolfe’s book “The Bonfire of the Vanities” . In that book there was a passage where the Negro Rev. hustler talked about the price of steam control . Well in the west , especially these “United” States but in Europe as well the masters only concern themselves with placating the small simmering sauce pan of Brown greed and resentment , which they see as useful to their purposes . Totally unaware and unconcerned about the simmering 3 gallon pot of native White resentment and frustration that is building up under their noses . In truth the Bolsheviks haven’t faced a real challenge in their march towards dominance in the west since 1945 . Their response to Trumps victory in the recent election , shouting “racist” and “Nazi” louder and more often proves that they have not evolved , there having been no pressure to do so . Nature , human nature cannot be controlled nor perverted by the will of the “anointed” and “enlightened” few . Nature seeks homeostasis and will have it no matter the cost . The idiot Francis Fukuyama declared the end of history and : “the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government.” Maybe he wasn’t such an idiot he did make a buck or two after all . Anyway contra Frank Fuckiyama we are at the end of “Western liberal democracy ” and about to step into the immense unknown of the present . There is no past , there is no future there is only this present moment pregnant with all possibilities . Seize them by the throat .

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  14. @Steve Sailer
    So if 15.5% of births in France are to two black parents, what percentage of babies born in France are to two non-black North Africans/Middle Easterners?

    What percentage to one black parent? What percentage to one MENA parent?

    In 2015 53.544% of births in the United States were to non-hispanic white women:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db258_table.pdf

    The USA was about 62.5% NSW that year, so the white mother birth share ratio is .856 of the white population share. Seems like this should allow at least a rough estimate for France.

    Taking the 80/20 estimate of race in France I linked to above, the white women share of births in France would be 68.5%. I have no clue what percentage of those births are with non-white fathers. If I had to guess, I’d say 6%, providing a figure of 64.4% of births in France being to two white parents.

    Putting this all together:
    64.4% two white parent births
    15.5% two black parent births
    ~6% one white parent birth (I’m guessing white men have interracial children at half the rate of white women)

    That leaves about 15% for all the rest of France’s births.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    A further complication is sex ratio of non-white immigrants. You can't just take the TFR of immigrant women and assume they are half of the immigrant population. There is much more of a male surplus in France's immigration sources. Some of these surplus males will find a local woman or gather the resources to import one, but probably a fair number never do. They end up in prison, homeless, sharing prostitutes, or as incels.
    , @reiner Tor
    Your estimate is somewhat lower, but honestly, is 31.5% vs. 38.9% that big a difference? And of course yours is assuming the same demographic behavior among Hispanics and US blacks as among Maghrebis and African blacks, or, for the matter, among US whites as French whites, which is questionable.
    , @syonredux

    Putting this all together:
    64.4% two white parent births
    15.5% two black parent births
    ~6% one white parent birth (I’m guessing white men have interracial children at half the rate of white women)

    That leaves about 15% for all the rest of France’s births.
     
    What about Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East?
  15. @Lot
    In 2015 53.544% of births in the United States were to non-hispanic white women:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db258_table.pdf

    The USA was about 62.5% NSW that year, so the white mother birth share ratio is .856 of the white population share. Seems like this should allow at least a rough estimate for France.

    Taking the 80/20 estimate of race in France I linked to above, the white women share of births in France would be 68.5%. I have no clue what percentage of those births are with non-white fathers. If I had to guess, I'd say 6%, providing a figure of 64.4% of births in France being to two white parents.

    Putting this all together:
    64.4% two white parent births
    15.5% two black parent births
    ~6% one white parent birth (I'm guessing white men have interracial children at half the rate of white women)

    That leaves about 15% for all the rest of France's births.

    A further complication is sex ratio of non-white immigrants. You can’t just take the TFR of immigrant women and assume they are half of the immigrant population. There is much more of a male surplus in France’s immigration sources. Some of these surplus males will find a local woman or gather the resources to import one, but probably a fair number never do. They end up in prison, homeless, sharing prostitutes, or as incels.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    For all I know, since immigration from Africa is no longer easy, a significant portion of African immigrants are wives/husbands imported by Maghrebi clans from Algeria or Morocco. The sex ratio might actually skew female there. Are there any data?

    In the last thread I estimated that new African arrivals could account for a 9 percentage point increase (or even more) over a ten year period, assuming they were 50% female. Even at 30% they could easily be 5-7 percentage points of the change.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Also, keep in mind that ex-French colonies in Africa just south of the Sahara have the world's highest total fertility rate. Niger is #1 in global TFR and Chad, Mali, Mauretania, Burkina Faso, etc are up there too.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html
  16. @Trelane
    By the 2070s, projecting longstanding trends, France will be a country where 90% of births will be to introgressers and only 10% to founders. If this was a proper war the generals would have to concede France has been lost.

    The issue is being forced to a question of whether France will expell the introgressors, perhaps by paying them to leave. King Edward expelled the Jews from England (all 3000 of them) in 1290 but will France expell the millions of barbarians in their midst? The cost would be staggering, perhaps a trillion franks or more. But can France afford not to?

    I'd pay 'em to leave if I were you.

    France has gone over the waterfall. It will either descend into a race war or cease to exist in the next 50 years.

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    • Replies: @Flip
    Both America and France will exist as variations on Brazil. I remember walking around Sao Paulo and marveling at all the mixtures of races in the faces on the street.
  17. Oh , BTW I meant to post this picture of my first Exxon ship . If Steve will allow me to in the future I will try to find a picture of every ship I sailed on and post it , a small pleasure to your otherwise sad and empty lives oh…. wait I was thinking about my own sad and empty life .

    http://www.aukevisser.nl/exxon/id82.htm

    An amusing story . once up in Valdez I was on deck watch . That basically meant roaming up an down the fore deck of the 925 ft. vessel discounting 200 ft. more or less for the house and poop deck . Anyway I had a radio as every body on watch did to communicate with cargo control . That day as I did my rounds I was singing the only 2-3 lines of “Some Where Over The Rainbow” that I knew . Over and over . After about 30 min. I was passing aft in front of Cargo Control and as I did so I heard a faint but frantic banging on the forward facing porthole . It turned out that my mic had been keyed the whole time . The poor guys had had to sit there for 30-40 min. listening to me repeat the same off tune lines over and over .

    I am sure I was almost this good :

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    Oh the little guy , God love him .
    , @Jim Don Bob
    More stories!

    Why would Exxon sell a 14 year old ship?

    , @AnotherDad
    Always reminds me of a different Dorothy--my mom. She was a few years younger, but there's a pretty good physical resemblance. And while she was mostly in overalls on the farm--Iowa farm girls had chores to do!--my grandmother liked blue and had her daughter in blue gingham dresses. (As a result, I never saw my mom wear a blue dress her entire life.)

    My mom couldn't sing like that, and wasn't the dreamy sort, but a practical, level-headed, let's get to work type. But she loved to read--vowed to read every book in Vinton's Carnegie library--and i can imagine her on the farm in her blue gingham dress dreaming of the world out there--which fortunately she got to travel and see quite a fair bit of in her retirement years.

    Thanks Donut.
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    Well, put it this way.

    Prior to 1945, say, was ‘sickle cell anaemia’ *ever* discussed in French medical schools, public health departments, doctors’ surgeries, medical associations, hospitals, clinics, etc.
    Was the malady even known to the general French population?
    How many case histories, per annum, ever presented themselves?
    Was there any write-up in the domestic (non colonial) French medical press?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    It's not indigenous north of, say, Calabria in Italy.
    , @Lot
    The most common autosomal recessive disease among native French:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cystic_fibrosis

    Nice overview of the possible heterozygote advantage theories. Unlike sickle cell, no firm answer yet.
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    @kihowi
    Is it even possible to talk this way about race in France and not end up in prison? If not, this is a great scam. First prohibit the topic, then when people are forced to discuss it indirectly, making a big deal about how they're being dishonest.

    One simple word of reply to you:

    Orwell.

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    @jjbees
    When is the left going to realize that telling people "You have the right to die out" doesn't sit well with people?

    So tone deaf. Many such cases. Sad!

    The modern lefty, (or Economist Magazine, for that matter), position is that an indigenous, ethnic Frenchmen – all of whose forbears lived in France for many thousands of years, (believe it or not such persons still exist), has no more ‘right’ to France than a random Bangladeshi who has never left Dacca, who cannot speak French, and can’t locate France on a map.

    And I’m not lying or exaggerating. That is what we are up against.

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    • Replies: @Flip
    The Ninth Circuit seems to feel the same way...
  21. @Lot
    A further complication is sex ratio of non-white immigrants. You can't just take the TFR of immigrant women and assume they are half of the immigrant population. There is much more of a male surplus in France's immigration sources. Some of these surplus males will find a local woman or gather the resources to import one, but probably a fair number never do. They end up in prison, homeless, sharing prostitutes, or as incels.

    For all I know, since immigration from Africa is no longer easy, a significant portion of African immigrants are wives/husbands imported by Maghrebi clans from Algeria or Morocco. The sex ratio might actually skew female there. Are there any data?

    In the last thread I estimated that new African arrivals could account for a 9 percentage point increase (or even more) over a ten year period, assuming they were 50% female. Even at 30% they could easily be 5-7 percentage points of the change.

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    @Diversity Heretic
    Good point: any open and frank discussion of race, except, I suppose, to praise diversity to the skies, can be prosecuted as "incitement to racial hatred." Police monitor Twitter accounts.

    There was a song in the 1970s (I think that it was "Total Eclipse of the Heart") that had a line something like: "We're sitting on a powder keg and giving off sparks!" That's France in 2017.

    Welsh lass, Bonnie Tyler, 1983.

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  23. @Lot
    In 2015 53.544% of births in the United States were to non-hispanic white women:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db258_table.pdf

    The USA was about 62.5% NSW that year, so the white mother birth share ratio is .856 of the white population share. Seems like this should allow at least a rough estimate for France.

    Taking the 80/20 estimate of race in France I linked to above, the white women share of births in France would be 68.5%. I have no clue what percentage of those births are with non-white fathers. If I had to guess, I'd say 6%, providing a figure of 64.4% of births in France being to two white parents.

    Putting this all together:
    64.4% two white parent births
    15.5% two black parent births
    ~6% one white parent birth (I'm guessing white men have interracial children at half the rate of white women)

    That leaves about 15% for all the rest of France's births.

    Your estimate is somewhat lower, but honestly, is 31.5% vs. 38.9% that big a difference? And of course yours is assuming the same demographic behavior among Hispanics and US blacks as among Maghrebis and African blacks, or, for the matter, among US whites as French whites, which is questionable.

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    Asian and Cuban and Puerto Rican fertility is below US whites, US blacks are slightly higher, remaining non white is higher still. For France, the old North African population in urban and somewhat secularized, so I would bet not all that much higher than the Gauls. Put that all together and I think the population share to birth share assumption is fairly reasonable.

    In the late 90's France's legal immigration rate got as low as 40k a year, about 80% less than the US per capita rate. Whatever factors led to that policy could conceivably return under a Republican government moving right to co opt FN. Resisting illegal migrants plus ending North African chain migration seems to have a lot of promise. I don't remember the source but I think I read France does about 37k deportations a year. Perhaps demographic decline could even be reversed. White immigration of 30k a year, 50k a year non white deportations, plus the natural returning home of another 30k a year adds up to a net migration relative change of +110k whites per year. Not likely to happen, but more likely than any good news out of Germany, U.K. or Sweden.
  24. Contemporary sociopolitical parlance has become one unending advertisement for ridiculous sports-beverages at the X-Games:

    The EXTREME right hold EXTREME views … to the EXTREME.

    We need EXTREME measures to suppress EXTREMISM … to the EXTREME.

    (You can make a game of it if you imagine everything they write and speak in this vein shouted with the obnoxiously insincere yet enthusiastic delivery of the DJ at a nudie bar exhorting you to “Give it up for Dejah!” or whomever….)

    #idiocracy

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  25. It may be an artefact of Google Translate, but “extremist militants” when applied to the natives of Egypt or Nigeria means people who cut throats, bomb churches or rape schoolgirls.

    In France it apparently means a native who would like to know how quickly he’s being colonised.

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  26. @Lot
    A further complication is sex ratio of non-white immigrants. You can't just take the TFR of immigrant women and assume they are half of the immigrant population. There is much more of a male surplus in France's immigration sources. Some of these surplus males will find a local woman or gather the resources to import one, but probably a fair number never do. They end up in prison, homeless, sharing prostitutes, or as incels.

    Also, keep in mind that ex-French colonies in Africa just south of the Sahara have the world’s highest total fertility rate. Niger is #1 in global TFR and Chad, Mali, Mauretania, Burkina Faso, etc are up there too.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    The Wikipedia page on French demographics says tfr for African born women is somewhat below 3.0.

    The question is tfr for French born African women. The generous welfare state and more patriarchal Muslim mores might make it higher than it is for Hispanics born in the US.

  27. @Steve Sailer
    Also, keep in mind that ex-French colonies in Africa just south of the Sahara have the world's highest total fertility rate. Niger is #1 in global TFR and Chad, Mali, Mauretania, Burkina Faso, etc are up there too.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

    The Wikipedia page on French demographics says tfr for African born women is somewhat below 3.0.

    The question is tfr for French born African women. The generous welfare state and more patriarchal Muslim mores might make it higher than it is for Hispanics born in the US.

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  28. @Anonymous
    Well, put it this way.

    Prior to 1945, say, was 'sickle cell anaemia' *ever* discussed in French medical schools, public health departments, doctors' surgeries, medical associations, hospitals, clinics, etc.
    Was the malady even known to the general French population?
    How many case histories, per annum, ever presented themselves?
    Was there any write-up in the domestic (non colonial) French medical press?

    It’s not indigenous north of, say, Calabria in Italy.

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  29. @donut
    Oh , BTW I meant to post this picture of my first Exxon ship . If Steve will allow me to in the future I will try to find a picture of every ship I sailed on and post it , a small pleasure to your otherwise sad and empty lives oh.... wait I was thinking about my own sad and empty life .

    http://www.aukevisser.nl/exxon/id82.htm

    An amusing story . once up in Valdez I was on deck watch . That basically meant roaming up an down the fore deck of the 925 ft. vessel discounting 200 ft. more or less for the house and poop deck . Anyway I had a radio as every body on watch did to communicate with cargo control . That day as I did my rounds I was singing the only 2-3 lines of "Some Where Over The Rainbow" that I knew . Over and over . After about 30 min. I was passing aft in front of Cargo Control and as I did so I heard a faint but frantic banging on the forward facing porthole . It turned out that my mic had been keyed the whole time . The poor guys had had to sit there for 30-40 min. listening to me repeat the same off tune lines over and over .

    I am sure I was almost this good :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZxmZmBfnU

    Oh the little guy , God love him .

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  30. @reiner Tor
    Your estimate is somewhat lower, but honestly, is 31.5% vs. 38.9% that big a difference? And of course yours is assuming the same demographic behavior among Hispanics and US blacks as among Maghrebis and African blacks, or, for the matter, among US whites as French whites, which is questionable.

    Asian and Cuban and Puerto Rican fertility is below US whites, US blacks are slightly higher, remaining non white is higher still. For France, the old North African population in urban and somewhat secularized, so I would bet not all that much higher than the Gauls. Put that all together and I think the population share to birth share assumption is fairly reasonable.

    In the late 90′s France’s legal immigration rate got as low as 40k a year, about 80% less than the US per capita rate. Whatever factors led to that policy could conceivably return under a Republican government moving right to co opt FN. Resisting illegal migrants plus ending North African chain migration seems to have a lot of promise. I don’t remember the source but I think I read France does about 37k deportations a year. Perhaps demographic decline could even be reversed. White immigration of 30k a year, 50k a year non white deportations, plus the natural returning home of another 30k a year adds up to a net migration relative change of +110k whites per year. Not likely to happen, but more likely than any good news out of Germany, U.K. or Sweden.

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    African fertility and even Arab and Maghreb fertility is extreme compared to Hispanic fertility in Mexico or the USA.

    Indeed, considering the European fertility rate in Spain, Italy, and Germany appears to have dropped to 1.0 children per woman per lifetime, it is unlikely the French level is much higher. The African and Maghreb rate has to make up the other 0.8 or 0.9 that French women aren't birthing to make the national average about 1.9.

    So it looks like African and Maghrebi women in France have rates around 3 to 4, paid for by French taxes supporting generous welfare.

    Resisting illegal migrants plus ending North African chain migration seems to have a lot of promise.
     
    No. It doesn't. The results are baked into the differential fertility rates. Even with no immigration, France will have majority African and Islamic population in 30-40 years.

    If expulsion cannot be accomplished, France and French culture are doomed. One thousand generations from Lascaux to Sartre and with one generation of idiotic leaders, it's a civilization gone with the wind.
  31. @Anonymous
    Well, put it this way.

    Prior to 1945, say, was 'sickle cell anaemia' *ever* discussed in French medical schools, public health departments, doctors' surgeries, medical associations, hospitals, clinics, etc.
    Was the malady even known to the general French population?
    How many case histories, per annum, ever presented themselves?
    Was there any write-up in the domestic (non colonial) French medical press?

    The most common autosomal recessive disease among native French:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cystic_fibrosis

    Nice overview of the possible heterozygote advantage theories. Unlike sickle cell, no firm answer yet.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    The problem with the disease resistance theory of CF heterozygotes is that the CF gene is older than many big diseases like cholera.

    Better breathing ability in cold, dry, and dusty environments is a new theory:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002251931400469X


    Here is another one suggesting it was a cold adaption again hypertension.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S156919931100169X


    Yet another theory it is an older and cruder form of lactose tolerance.

    Given 1 in 25 to 30 whites has the gene, it is quite the mystery we do not know why.
  32. @Lot
    Asian and Cuban and Puerto Rican fertility is below US whites, US blacks are slightly higher, remaining non white is higher still. For France, the old North African population in urban and somewhat secularized, so I would bet not all that much higher than the Gauls. Put that all together and I think the population share to birth share assumption is fairly reasonable.

    In the late 90's France's legal immigration rate got as low as 40k a year, about 80% less than the US per capita rate. Whatever factors led to that policy could conceivably return under a Republican government moving right to co opt FN. Resisting illegal migrants plus ending North African chain migration seems to have a lot of promise. I don't remember the source but I think I read France does about 37k deportations a year. Perhaps demographic decline could even be reversed. White immigration of 30k a year, 50k a year non white deportations, plus the natural returning home of another 30k a year adds up to a net migration relative change of +110k whites per year. Not likely to happen, but more likely than any good news out of Germany, U.K. or Sweden.

    African fertility and even Arab and Maghreb fertility is extreme compared to Hispanic fertility in Mexico or the USA.

    Indeed, considering the European fertility rate in Spain, Italy, and Germany appears to have dropped to 1.0 children per woman per lifetime, it is unlikely the French level is much higher. The African and Maghreb rate has to make up the other 0.8 or 0.9 that French women aren’t birthing to make the national average about 1.9.

    So it looks like African and Maghrebi women in France have rates around 3 to 4, paid for by French taxes supporting generous welfare.

    Resisting illegal migrants plus ending North African chain migration seems to have a lot of promise.

    No. It doesn’t. The results are baked into the differential fertility rates. Even with no immigration, France will have majority African and Islamic population in 30-40 years.

    If expulsion cannot be accomplished, France and French culture are doomed. One thousand generations from Lascaux to Sartre and with one generation of idiotic leaders, it’s a civilization gone with the wind.

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    It's profitable to study the relevant Wikipedia page.

    African born mothers have a tfr of 2.86 (non-Maghrebis) or 2.57, 2.9, 2.97 (Algerians, Tunisians, and Moroccans, respectively), while European immigrants' fertility is generally in the 1.5-1.7 range except the Portuguese, whose fertility was 1.97. I'd wager white French (French French) fertility is also in the 1.5-1.7 range.

    Since something must pull overall French fertility higher to 2.0, it must be the nonwhites, and probably not the Vietnamese. So probably those secularized Maghrebis still have their fertilities in the 2.5-3.0 range.

    A further point is that the white women probably have their 1.6 children when they are 35-40 years old, whereas the same number for Maghrebis is probably 25-30 or even younger. This further accelerates the process.

    We don't know how much of the African (including Maghrebis) immigration was spouse-imports by Maghrebi clans, but if it was mostly that, then - as I explained in the previous thread - the yearly 70,000 African immigrants since 2004 were in and of themselves enough to move the nonwhite birth ratio up by perhaps 8-10 percentage points.

  33. @Lot
    The most common autosomal recessive disease among native French:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cystic_fibrosis

    Nice overview of the possible heterozygote advantage theories. Unlike sickle cell, no firm answer yet.

    The problem with the disease resistance theory of CF heterozygotes is that the CF gene is older than many big diseases like cholera.

    Better breathing ability in cold, dry, and dusty environments is a new theory:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002251931400469X

    Here is another one suggesting it was a cold adaption again hypertension.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S156919931100169X

    Yet another theory it is an older and cruder form of lactose tolerance.

    Given 1 in 25 to 30 whites has the gene, it is quite the mystery we do not know why.

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    Of course, if modern developed nation public health systems were up to the job, and genetic counselling was available to all prospective partners/parents, then this truly horrible disease which causes unspeakable discomfort in its sufferers would be eliminated at a stroke. The only downside is that couples would have to split up and loo, for different partners, or possibly, in extremis, IUD using a non afflicted donor could be used.

    Former UK premier Gordon Brown has children afflicted with CF. It is unclear if he or his partner were ever offered genetic counselling.
  34. If you talk to the police on the streets of Straßburg, Alsace, they tell you their mayor tells them there’s no problem with immigration, but they themselves say: That’s what the mayor wants us to say, that’s not what we see. And they mention no-go zones for themselves in their own city becuase of immigrant crime.

    Today is an interview in the German sunday-paper Die Welt with the very charming and loveley actress Emanuele Béart – who acts in the Strraßburg Theatre at the moment.
    Béart talks absolutely pro immigration in this interview – invite the world – all this lovely people! – and w o r r y about Francois Fillon and Le Pen – all those haters – this is just horrible!

    I’m asthonished that there is absolutely no french reation to Steve Sailer’s impressive Taki-article.

    Michel Houellbecq would like it, I guess. But he is a lazy cat.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    One reason German whites keep voting for left wing parties is the former East Germany is still poor and backward compared to the West, but the West was heavily taxed in an attempt to make up the difference. The result is that German private savings and household net worth is much lower than expected compared to income and compared to the rest of Western Europe.

    Also fueling both leftism and lower private net worth is the very low German homeownership rate.

    That gives me a lot less hope for Germany than the rest of the West.

    The Northern Trump Belt that swung heavily to the right starting around 2000 features homeownership rates above 75%. Even higher if you exclude non voters and non whites.

    Renting your whole life I believe introduces an insecurity and adverserial mindset toward the "rich" landlord in Middle Germania that just does not exist in the USA, France, Holland, and Italy.

    Looking back, Germany would be in much better shape if reunification had been a nominal confederation or even better had not happened at all.
    , @anon
    It's buried in the working class areas.

    The media-political class is lying to them so the more prosperous segments of the population won't realize what's happening until it all suddenly goes up in flames.
  35. @Lot
    Here's the blog that included the graphic I linked to.

    https://identitairepur.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/le-grand-remplacement-par-ab/

    The author estimates France is currently 20% "extra-European"

    It sounds about right. Some parts of France are still less than 5% extra – European, while other parts are 30% or more, like the Paris or Marseilles area.

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  36. ”Among the 802,000 newborns in metropolitan France in 2010, 80.1% had two French parents, 13.3% had one French parent, and 6.6% had two non-French parents.[6][7] For the same year, 27.3% of newborns in metropolitan France had at least one foreign-born parent and 23.9% had at least one parent born outside of Europe (parents born in overseas territories are considered as born in France).[6][8] Between 2006 and 2008, about 40% of newborns in France had one foreign-born grandparent (11% born in another European country, 16% born in the Maghreb and 12% born in another region of the world)”

    From wikipedia.

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  37. @Anonymous
    The modern lefty, (or Economist Magazine, for that matter), position is that an indigenous, ethnic Frenchmen - all of whose forbears lived in France for many thousands of years, (believe it or not such persons still exist), has no more 'right' to France than a random Bangladeshi who has never left Dacca, who cannot speak French, and can't locate France on a map.

    And I'm not lying or exaggerating. That is what we are up against.

    The Ninth Circuit seems to feel the same way…

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  38. @oddsbodkins
    France has gone over the waterfall. It will either descend into a race war or cease to exist in the next 50 years.

    Both America and France will exist as variations on Brazil. I remember walking around Sao Paulo and marveling at all the mixtures of races in the faces on the street.

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    The news out of Brazil these days doesn't leave me marveling that France or the U.S. might someday resemble it. The feeling is quite different.
  39. The French population only grew by 8.6% between 1871 and 1911, while Germany’s grew by 60% and Britain’s by 54%

    Ferdinand Foch joked that the only way for France to permanently improve its relationship with Germany was to castrate 20 million Germans.[12] If the population of France had grown between 1815 and 2000 at the same rate as that of Germany during the same time period, France’s population would have been 110 million in 2000; Germany grew at a much faster rate despite its very substantial emigration to the Americas, and its larger military and civilian losses during the World Wars than France. If France’s population had grown at the same rate as that of England and Wales (which was also siphoned off by emigration to the Americas, Australia and New Zealand), France’s population could have been as much as 150 million in 2000. Should one start the comparison at the time of King Louis XIV, then France would now have approximately the same population as the United States. While France was Europe’s leading military power at the time of Louis XIV and then Napoleon, the country lost this advantage due to its relative demographic decline after 1800.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France

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    The open secret, expressed with many a male secret guffaw was that the French were using all many of 'unnatural' methods of contraception in those pre-pill pre-prophylaxis times.
    Hence, the adjective 'French' for all manner of debauched shenanigans.
  40. I lived in Paris for 1 winter and 2 summers – 1954-55. Plenty of Arabs and black Africans from the francophone colonies visible to this 20 yr old eye. All in all a very civilized space. As an American student I had limited entree into French life but I had some.

    Visible memory is the heterogenous vehicles in the street, pre-war and post-war Citroens, little 4-door Renaults, Vespas and Lambrettas, motorcycles, middle market 4 door Simcas, 2 door 2 fiscal hp Citroens beloved then and now, Solex bicycles with tiny engines on the back wheel, and most exotic of all, 3 wheel motorized wheel chairs, steered with a rod by recumbent wounded war veterans, vehicle supplied by social services, mixed into the other traffic. And pedal bicycles of course.

    I revisited France in 1966 on honeymoon, in 1998, 2001, 2003, 2005. All those times, except for 2005, I stayed with a high-school friend. She lived in the 10th arrondissement, imagine between the giant Gare du Nord train station and Place Stalingrad. Closest metro was Stalingrad but that was super creepy at night, an elevated line, one descended into a dark space. So it was better to walk a bit further from a metro stop on a different subway line. On one visit we were locked out of Cynthia’s apartment and slept on the landing. I went out during the night to try to rouse Cynthia’s son in his apartment, trying and succeeding in using a telephone card in one of the ubiquitous phone booths on the blvd. Young African blacks socialized on the street – this is like 3am – and kept darting in and out of the phone booths pretending to be making calls to back home. I was amazed to read a recent book by Naipaul partially set in Berlin in which he recounted the same scene.

    In 2005 we did a magic late-spring month in an apt owned by a well-to-do American couple. It was their pied-a-terre in Paris – they lived in the Vosges – and their last year renting it. It was your standard 1 bedroom fifth-floor apartment but it was 1 block from the Luxembourg Gardens. Same street Gertrude Stein lived in at one point – rue Fleurus.

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  41. @(((Owen)))
    African fertility and even Arab and Maghreb fertility is extreme compared to Hispanic fertility in Mexico or the USA.

    Indeed, considering the European fertility rate in Spain, Italy, and Germany appears to have dropped to 1.0 children per woman per lifetime, it is unlikely the French level is much higher. The African and Maghreb rate has to make up the other 0.8 or 0.9 that French women aren't birthing to make the national average about 1.9.

    So it looks like African and Maghrebi women in France have rates around 3 to 4, paid for by French taxes supporting generous welfare.

    Resisting illegal migrants plus ending North African chain migration seems to have a lot of promise.
     
    No. It doesn't. The results are baked into the differential fertility rates. Even with no immigration, France will have majority African and Islamic population in 30-40 years.

    If expulsion cannot be accomplished, France and French culture are doomed. One thousand generations from Lascaux to Sartre and with one generation of idiotic leaders, it's a civilization gone with the wind.

    It’s profitable to study the relevant Wikipedia page.

    African born mothers have a tfr of 2.86 (non-Maghrebis) or 2.57, 2.9, 2.97 (Algerians, Tunisians, and Moroccans, respectively), while European immigrants’ fertility is generally in the 1.5-1.7 range except the Portuguese, whose fertility was 1.97. I’d wager white French (French French) fertility is also in the 1.5-1.7 range.

    Since something must pull overall French fertility higher to 2.0, it must be the nonwhites, and probably not the Vietnamese. So probably those secularized Maghrebis still have their fertilities in the 2.5-3.0 range.

    A further point is that the white women probably have their 1.6 children when they are 35-40 years old, whereas the same number for Maghrebis is probably 25-30 or even younger. This further accelerates the process.

    We don’t know how much of the African (including Maghrebis) immigration was spouse-imports by Maghrebi clans, but if it was mostly that, then – as I explained in the previous thread – the yearly 70,000 African immigrants since 2004 were in and of themselves enough to move the nonwhite birth ratio up by perhaps 8-10 percentage points.

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    Yep, one more generation of this TFR differences and France is sunk. If whites births are in the ball park of 66 out of a 100 and whites TFR is 1.6, that implies a ~20% decrease in the number white children for the next generation. Let's say that those 66 white babies born today grow up to have have ~53 kids.

    Now, if France's overall TRF is 2.0, that means that non-whites have a TFR of ~2.85. That means that those 33 kids being born now will have around 33% more kids or ~44 people. So future France just from one generation of different TRFs will have 53 young white people and 44 young non-white of which ~33 (75%) will be Muslim. Add in very modest immigration from Africa and Middle East - ~0.1% a year - and those numbers pop up to ~47 non-whites, of which 35 or so will be Muslim.

    Wild guessing here but likely not too far off if just one more generation of different TFRs. In a generation, France's births would be 47% non-white and 35% Muslim. (Given that Muslims already may be 25% of young people, my guess could be on the optimistic side.)

    In 25 to 30 years, France's under 30 population could be split between whites and non-whites - and that's with almost no immigration. Even if TFRs equalize by that point, France is changed forever. How many countries function well with a third of their population being Muslim? Any?

    Sure, you could argue that the United States is there already with one half of births being white. But while Hispanics don't exactly improve Western civilization, they don't blow it up. Muslims - like blacks - are in their own special category when it comes to Western civilization. Blacks are simply incapable of maintaining such a civilization. Muslims want to destroy it.

  42. @Diversity Heretic
    Good point: any open and frank discussion of race, except, I suppose, to praise diversity to the skies, can be prosecuted as "incitement to racial hatred." Police monitor Twitter accounts.

    There was a song in the 1970s (I think that it was "Total Eclipse of the Heart") that had a line something like: "We're sitting on a powder keg and giving off sparks!" That's France in 2017.

    “Total Eclipse of the Heart” had the most over-the-top video ever, enhanced by the literal lyrics version:

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  43. @Trelane
    By the 2070s, projecting longstanding trends, France will be a country where 90% of births will be to introgressers and only 10% to founders. If this was a proper war the generals would have to concede France has been lost.

    The issue is being forced to a question of whether France will expell the introgressors, perhaps by paying them to leave. King Edward expelled the Jews from England (all 3000 of them) in 1290 but will France expell the millions of barbarians in their midst? The cost would be staggering, perhaps a trillion franks or more. But can France afford not to?

    I'd pay 'em to leave if I were you.

    If the colonists take over, and run it according to their own heritage customs, France will descend into a patchwork of chaos, no longer a nation-state, merely a geographical zone infested with violently contesting little fiefdoms or tribes, producing little or nothing; cities will cease to exist unless supplies are somehow bought and paid for as imports. Using what? Selling women as slaves? I don’t doubt the vineyards would be first to go in a multi-kulti conflict. And unpasteurised cheese is hard to export.
    The Italy of the condottieri would look orderly, cultured and civilised in comparison.

    At that point, ze Chermans will decide that enough disorder at such proximity is genug, and pull on their Knobelbecher one more time.

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  44. France continues to compound the problem by bringing in approx 68k immigrants from Africa (Maghreb and SSA) each year for the last decade according to wikipedia. This number does not include Merkel’s illegal guests in 2015.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_France

    “The statistics on this genetic disease are brandished by identity activists as a “proof” of the “migratory invasion”. But their arguments do not hold.”

    I was waiting for the part in the story where they said something to the effect as this not being a good proxy for non-white births, but it never came. I was hoping the situation was not as grim as the stats portray.

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  45. @donut
    Oh , BTW I meant to post this picture of my first Exxon ship . If Steve will allow me to in the future I will try to find a picture of every ship I sailed on and post it , a small pleasure to your otherwise sad and empty lives oh.... wait I was thinking about my own sad and empty life .

    http://www.aukevisser.nl/exxon/id82.htm

    An amusing story . once up in Valdez I was on deck watch . That basically meant roaming up an down the fore deck of the 925 ft. vessel discounting 200 ft. more or less for the house and poop deck . Anyway I had a radio as every body on watch did to communicate with cargo control . That day as I did my rounds I was singing the only 2-3 lines of "Some Where Over The Rainbow" that I knew . Over and over . After about 30 min. I was passing aft in front of Cargo Control and as I did so I heard a faint but frantic banging on the forward facing porthole . It turned out that my mic had been keyed the whole time . The poor guys had had to sit there for 30-40 min. listening to me repeat the same off tune lines over and over .

    I am sure I was almost this good :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZxmZmBfnU

    More stories!

    Why would Exxon sell a 14 year old ship?

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    Stress from the heavy seas. From fall to spring it is one continuous storm , and Houston Co. HQ as the Exxon Valdez so dramatically demonstrated does not give a shit for the facts of life . TIME , TIME , TIME . Save time . Once the president of Exxon Shipping came out to visit the ships in port . The president of a shipping company , he literally did not know how to come up the gangway . The Exxon Benicia (the North Slope's sister ship) left the shipyard in Japan after major yard work . Two days out there were some heavy seas . The next morning when the dayworkers came out on deck there were cracks in the deck three to four inches wide across the deck . 10-15 feet in length . They turned around and went back to Japan , with everybody dressed and in their life jackets all the way . I might have posted this before but will again . It is tragedy and a crime .

    http://seamenschurch.org/article/the-sinking-of-the-ss-marine-electric

    The Third mate said in his own written description of the sinking that as he was going down the ladder from the bridge the engine room crew called him on the radio and asked if they were finished with engines . At that moment the ship capsized . Like my friend John washed off the stern of the Exxon Baltimore I often think what their last moments were like .
  46. I was at Paris CDG airport yesterday and about half the people there appeared to be “people of color.”

    Nothing to see here, folks.

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    I was at Paris CDG airport yesterday and about half the people there appeared to be “people of color.”
     
    Ha! Check out Dulles international gates. Less than 50% white.
  47. How ironic that the French establishment is waving around the concept of “Frenchness” as a counter-argument to a racial analysis of their population. The whole reason France is now in month 15 of a state of emergency–with five extensions so far–is because whole swaths of their population are rejecting fraternite and egalite. So their Frenchness project is disaster. And the left salutes France for their “bravery” and so forth. This is the end game for the left–a fascist crackdown on speech, thought and assembly, along with a suspension of habeas corpus. Coming soon to a city and state near you, unless Trump does something big.

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    This is the end game for the left–a fascist crackdown on speech, thought and assembly, along with a suspension of habeas corpus.
     
    Yep. It's all going according to plan.
  48. Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France’s greatest novelist, was black. You don’t seem to understand that what matters is individual talent and ability, and not ethnicity or nationality. You also don’t seem to understand how beneficial immigration is, and how much your own high standard of living is enabled by immigrants. The reason why you can buy so many goods cheaply is because they are made by immigrants who are payed less than what native-born citizen workers would.

    You seem to focus on the social problems caused by immigration, which you greatly overblow with endless hyperboles, while ignoring the enormous benefits that immigration has bestowed on America. There was a study I saw once by the University of Chicago economics department that, if the 1965 Immigration Act had never happened, that the U.S’ GDP would be 4 trillion Dollars smaller than what it is today. The truth is that immigration only hurts the bottom 5%, maybe 10% of low-skilled native-born American workers. To these people, yes, immigration is certainly detrimental. But I think it is unwise to stop something that benefits 90% of the population to give a protected job market to 10% of the population. Alternative solutions must be found.

    France has for a very long time now had a minority of Muslims that are some of France’s best citizens. In cities like Nice and Marseille, there are Muslim communities that live there since the 17th century, and they are good citizens. In fact, there are a lot of doctors in France with Arab last names. They come from families that live in France for centuries now. They are actually overrepresented among the professions. Many of them are doctors, lawyers and professors.

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous. Carl Sagan once commented that, if aliens came to Earth and demanded a reason why the human species shouldn’t be exterminated, that we should show them Paris as the best example of what we are capable of as a species.

    But Paris has always been a city inhabited to a large degree by foreigners. The best real estate in Paris, at the central districts, is mostly owned by rich foreigners, and this has been true since time immemorial. Some of the best property in Paris has been owned by the same families since the 13th century, and a lot of those families are not French. Remember that Paris is a really, really, really old city. It was founded around 300 B.C. It was not called Paris, but rather Lutetia by the Roman occupiers of Gaul at the time of Caesar. Because it is so old, most of the best real estate has been taken for centuries. The truth is that the majority of white French people cannot afford to live in Paris, just like the majority of white Americans cannot afford to live in Manhattan.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France’s greatest novelist,
     
    No, he wasn't. He simply does not compare to Flaubert, Proust, Balzac, Stendhal, etc.

    was black.
     
    He was majority European in ancestry.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    As proof, Brazil is a vastly superior country to such homogenous nations with unwelcoming immigration policies such as China, Korean and Japan. Empirical evidence proves to us that immigration is an unvarnished good that requires neither enforcement nor standards, and therefore all borders should be henceforth dissolved.

    Homocide rate in Brazil is only 88 times that of Japan, after all. Or 24 times more than China, but surely that's due to higher population density in a country of 200 million versus a country of 1 billion plus.

    , @Mr. Anon

    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France’s greatest novelist, was black.
     
    He was 1/4 black. And whom to you consider to be America's greatest novelist? Danielle Steele? Tom Clancy?

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous.
     
    Yeah - gorgeous, thanks to all those vibrant muslim immigrants.

    But Paris has always been a city inhabited to a large degree by foreigners.

     

    Like these foreigners, for example. More vibrant immigrants, enriching their host country.
    , @El Dato

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous. Carl Sagan once commented that, if aliens came to Earth and demanded a reason why the human species shouldn’t be exterminated, that we should show them Paris as the best example of what we are capable of as a species.
     
    Maybe when Sagan was still young, on TV, and doing the "Cosmos" series (good times)

    Paris nowadays is not the same. It's an overpopulated, dirty wreck barely keeping afloat and an immense waterhead of non-productive and overpaid civil serpentry is feeding off it. There are economic non-participants everywhere.

    Between "taxed to death", "too many rules to follow" and "what's the protest about today?" (sometimes the protesters being students actually unhappy to enter the workforce), the economy of France as a whole is at a standstill. It's a PIG, the EURO has been killed, slowly at first and now with gusto by the Keynesians to great acclaim and plaudits by the churnalists, the trade balance is at 45 billion EUR/y, only Airbus seems to sell something.

    It's over.
  49. @reiner Tor
    It's profitable to study the relevant Wikipedia page.

    African born mothers have a tfr of 2.86 (non-Maghrebis) or 2.57, 2.9, 2.97 (Algerians, Tunisians, and Moroccans, respectively), while European immigrants' fertility is generally in the 1.5-1.7 range except the Portuguese, whose fertility was 1.97. I'd wager white French (French French) fertility is also in the 1.5-1.7 range.

    Since something must pull overall French fertility higher to 2.0, it must be the nonwhites, and probably not the Vietnamese. So probably those secularized Maghrebis still have their fertilities in the 2.5-3.0 range.

    A further point is that the white women probably have their 1.6 children when they are 35-40 years old, whereas the same number for Maghrebis is probably 25-30 or even younger. This further accelerates the process.

    We don't know how much of the African (including Maghrebis) immigration was spouse-imports by Maghrebi clans, but if it was mostly that, then - as I explained in the previous thread - the yearly 70,000 African immigrants since 2004 were in and of themselves enough to move the nonwhite birth ratio up by perhaps 8-10 percentage points.

    Yep, one more generation of this TFR differences and France is sunk. If whites births are in the ball park of 66 out of a 100 and whites TFR is 1.6, that implies a ~20% decrease in the number white children for the next generation. Let’s say that those 66 white babies born today grow up to have have ~53 kids.

    Now, if France’s overall TRF is 2.0, that means that non-whites have a TFR of ~2.85. That means that those 33 kids being born now will have around 33% more kids or ~44 people. So future France just from one generation of different TRFs will have 53 young white people and 44 young non-white of which ~33 (75%) will be Muslim. Add in very modest immigration from Africa and Middle East – ~0.1% a year – and those numbers pop up to ~47 non-whites, of which 35 or so will be Muslim.

    Wild guessing here but likely not too far off if just one more generation of different TFRs. In a generation, France’s births would be 47% non-white and 35% Muslim. (Given that Muslims already may be 25% of young people, my guess could be on the optimistic side.)

    In 25 to 30 years, France’s under 30 population could be split between whites and non-whites – and that’s with almost no immigration. Even if TFRs equalize by that point, France is changed forever. How many countries function well with a third of their population being Muslim? Any?

    Sure, you could argue that the United States is there already with one half of births being white. But while Hispanics don’t exactly improve Western civilization, they don’t blow it up. Muslims – like blacks – are in their own special category when it comes to Western civilization. Blacks are simply incapable of maintaining such a civilization. Muslims want to destroy it.

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    i like your reasoning. i was eying up a luxury apartment on the french riviera
    but your argument on this thread killed it.
    it is better to rent than own in la bongobongoland!
  50. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Lot
    The problem with the disease resistance theory of CF heterozygotes is that the CF gene is older than many big diseases like cholera.

    Better breathing ability in cold, dry, and dusty environments is a new theory:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002251931400469X


    Here is another one suggesting it was a cold adaption again hypertension.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S156919931100169X


    Yet another theory it is an older and cruder form of lactose tolerance.

    Given 1 in 25 to 30 whites has the gene, it is quite the mystery we do not know why.

    Of course, if modern developed nation public health systems were up to the job, and genetic counselling was available to all prospective partners/parents, then this truly horrible disease which causes unspeakable discomfort in its sufferers would be eliminated at a stroke. The only downside is that couples would have to split up and loo, for different partners, or possibly, in extremis, IUD using a non afflicted donor could be used.

    Former UK premier Gordon Brown has children afflicted with CF. It is unclear if he or his partner were ever offered genetic counselling.

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  51. Families from the Caribbean, French for about ten generations…

    How likely is it there are (Black) French citizens 10 generations removed from the Caribbean?

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    Very. Black generations are spaced 15-25 years in Africa and Haiti. It's not uncommon to have a 60 y.o. great-great grandmother.
  52. I’m saving up my money to visit France…I hope it doesn’t transform into Africa within the next two years

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  53. A truly “extreme right” rhetoric would not need hereditary disease as an excuse for nationalism — further proof that western media doesn’t know what right-wing means.

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    @Santoculto
    The French population only grew by 8.6% between 1871 and 1911, while Germany's grew by 60% and Britain's by 54%

    Ferdinand Foch joked that the only way for France to permanently improve its relationship with Germany was to castrate 20 million Germans.[12] If the population of France had grown between 1815 and 2000 at the same rate as that of Germany during the same time period, France's population would have been 110 million in 2000; Germany grew at a much faster rate despite its very substantial emigration to the Americas, and its larger military and civilian losses during the World Wars than France. If France's population had grown at the same rate as that of England and Wales (which was also siphoned off by emigration to the Americas, Australia and New Zealand), France's population could have been as much as 150 million in 2000. Should one start the comparison at the time of King Louis XIV, then France would now have approximately the same population as the United States. While France was Europe's leading military power at the time of Louis XIV and then Napoleon, the country lost this advantage due to its relative demographic decline after 1800.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France

    The open secret, expressed with many a male secret guffaw was that the French were using all many of ‘unnatural’ methods of contraception in those pre-pill pre-prophylaxis times.
    Hence, the adjective ‘French’ for all manner of debauched shenanigans.

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    Citizen said: Hispanics don’t exactly improve Western civilization, they don’t blow it up.

    No. Actual Spanish Hispanics are significantly Moorish admixture whites. There is Green Spain aka north Spain that is white and the rest is mestizo Mahgrebbis. The historical continuum of Spain and its New World possessions is mostly alienated from the west for genetic reasons.

    From the Rio Grande down to Patagonia there is a hybrid civilization. It’s quasi western. The Hispanic Mothership, Spain, is also quasi western, but more western than the New World.

    The USA is not in conflict with either British or French Canada because we are on the same continuum of Western Civ. Not so south of the border. They are aliens and destroyers of our civilization if allowed in in large numbers.

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    Wasn't this difference played out in the 19th century in Texas? I note that the Catalonian independence movement in Spain is along the lines you identify in your comment.
  56. @Lot
    In 2015 53.544% of births in the United States were to non-hispanic white women:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db258_table.pdf

    The USA was about 62.5% NSW that year, so the white mother birth share ratio is .856 of the white population share. Seems like this should allow at least a rough estimate for France.

    Taking the 80/20 estimate of race in France I linked to above, the white women share of births in France would be 68.5%. I have no clue what percentage of those births are with non-white fathers. If I had to guess, I'd say 6%, providing a figure of 64.4% of births in France being to two white parents.

    Putting this all together:
    64.4% two white parent births
    15.5% two black parent births
    ~6% one white parent birth (I'm guessing white men have interracial children at half the rate of white women)

    That leaves about 15% for all the rest of France's births.

    Putting this all together:
    64.4% two white parent births
    15.5% two black parent births
    ~6% one white parent birth (I’m guessing white men have interracial children at half the rate of white women)

    That leaves about 15% for all the rest of France’s births.

    What about Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East?

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  57. @Dieter Kief
    If you talk to the police on the streets of Straßburg, Alsace, they tell you their mayor tells them there's no problem with immigration, but they themselves say: That's what the mayor wants us to say, that's not what we see. And they mention no-go zones for themselves in their own city becuase of immigrant crime.

    Today is an interview in the German sunday-paper Die Welt with the very charming and loveley actress Emanuele Béart - who acts in the Strraßburg Theatre at the moment.
    Béart talks absolutely pro immigration in this interview - invite the world - all this lovely people! - and w o r r y about Francois Fillon and Le Pen - all those haters - this is just horrible!

    I'm asthonished that there is absolutely no french reation to Steve Sailer's impressive Taki-article.

    Michel Houellbecq would like it, I guess. But he is a lazy cat.

    One reason German whites keep voting for left wing parties is the former East Germany is still poor and backward compared to the West, but the West was heavily taxed in an attempt to make up the difference. The result is that German private savings and household net worth is much lower than expected compared to income and compared to the rest of Western Europe.

    Also fueling both leftism and lower private net worth is the very low German homeownership rate.

    That gives me a lot less hope for Germany than the rest of the West.

    The Northern Trump Belt that swung heavily to the right starting around 2000 features homeownership rates above 75%. Even higher if you exclude non voters and non whites.

    Renting your whole life I believe introduces an insecurity and adverserial mindset toward the “rich” landlord in Middle Germania that just does not exist in the USA, France, Holland, and Italy.

    Looking back, Germany would be in much better shape if reunification had been a nominal confederation or even better had not happened at all.

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    The Northern Trump Belt that swung heavily to the right starting around 2000 features homeownership rates above 75%
     
    Interesting. Would I find a source?
  58. @Nick Diaz
    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France's greatest novelist, was black. You don't seem to understand that what matters is individual talent and ability, and not ethnicity or nationality. You also don't seem to understand how beneficial immigration is, and how much your own high standard of living is enabled by immigrants. The reason why you can buy so many goods cheaply is because they are made by immigrants who are payed less than what native-born citizen workers would.

    You seem to focus on the social problems caused by immigration, which you greatly overblow with endless hyperboles, while ignoring the enormous benefits that immigration has bestowed on America. There was a study I saw once by the University of Chicago economics department that, if the 1965 Immigration Act had never happened, that the U.S' GDP would be 4 trillion Dollars smaller than what it is today. The truth is that immigration only hurts the bottom 5%, maybe 10% of low-skilled native-born American workers. To these people, yes, immigration is certainly detrimental. But I think it is unwise to stop something that benefits 90% of the population to give a protected job market to 10% of the population. Alternative solutions must be found.

    France has for a very long time now had a minority of Muslims that are some of France's best citizens. In cities like Nice and Marseille, there are Muslim communities that live there since the 17th century, and they are good citizens. In fact, there are a lot of doctors in France with Arab last names. They come from families that live in France for centuries now. They are actually overrepresented among the professions. Many of them are doctors, lawyers and professors.

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous. Carl Sagan once commented that, if aliens came to Earth and demanded a reason why the human species shouldn't be exterminated, that we should show them Paris as the best example of what we are capable of as a species.

    But Paris has always been a city inhabited to a large degree by foreigners. The best real estate in Paris, at the central districts, is mostly owned by rich foreigners, and this has been true since time immemorial. Some of the best property in Paris has been owned by the same families since the 13th century, and a lot of those families are not French. Remember that Paris is a really, really, really old city. It was founded around 300 B.C. It was not called Paris, but rather Lutetia by the Roman occupiers of Gaul at the time of Caesar. Because it is so old, most of the best real estate has been taken for centuries. The truth is that the majority of white French people cannot afford to live in Paris, just like the majority of white Americans cannot afford to live in Manhattan.

    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France’s greatest novelist,

    No, he wasn’t. He simply does not compare to Flaubert, Proust, Balzac, Stendhal, etc.

    was black.

    He was majority European in ancestry.

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    No comparison between Dumas and Proust in terms of artistic talent and expression.

    The former is more of an entertainer; the latter a genius.
  59. Perhaps better stats are available for prescription of Vitamin D supplements which are probably issued more often to non whites?

    See, for example:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dangers-of-vitamin-d-deficiency-highlighted

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    the stats are fine

    sickle cell is an ethnic illness so not testing for it (even if the rate among north africans is very low) is "racist"

    they're not testing for it because it has a high prevalence; they're testing for it because of who it is prevalent among

    people who want revenge on the French for WWII are the only ones quibbling
  60. @Flip
    Both America and France will exist as variations on Brazil. I remember walking around Sao Paulo and marveling at all the mixtures of races in the faces on the street.

    The news out of Brazil these days doesn’t leave me marveling that France or the U.S. might someday resemble it. The feeling is quite different.

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    On Brazil: It's funny that aldaily.com linked to a story about Stefan Zweig's last years. He was a world famous author on the run from the nazis. He had been well-received in Brazil and declared its racial mixing to be Europe's only hope. However, he found the end of Europe so distressing that he killed himself in Brazil. A lesson in that.
  61. @Steve Sailer
    So if 15.5% of births in France are to two black parents, what percentage of babies born in France are to two non-black North Africans/Middle Easterners?

    What percentage to one black parent? What percentage to one MENA parent?

    Link to a french population article, with name of statistician, who recently published a “Statistiques ethniques” book. Site is conservative/nationalist.

    http://www.fdesouche.com/820873-augmentation-de-43-du-nombre-de-subsahariens-en-france-depuis-2011

    I didn’t read carefully, but you might find the info you are looking for.

    By the way, have you looked into the Macron candidacy? A young debonair candidate, arriving from nowhere via Rothschild Frs with a saintly halo, a wife 24 yr his senior and heading a movement called En Marche!

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  62. @Nick Diaz
    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France's greatest novelist, was black. You don't seem to understand that what matters is individual talent and ability, and not ethnicity or nationality. You also don't seem to understand how beneficial immigration is, and how much your own high standard of living is enabled by immigrants. The reason why you can buy so many goods cheaply is because they are made by immigrants who are payed less than what native-born citizen workers would.

    You seem to focus on the social problems caused by immigration, which you greatly overblow with endless hyperboles, while ignoring the enormous benefits that immigration has bestowed on America. There was a study I saw once by the University of Chicago economics department that, if the 1965 Immigration Act had never happened, that the U.S' GDP would be 4 trillion Dollars smaller than what it is today. The truth is that immigration only hurts the bottom 5%, maybe 10% of low-skilled native-born American workers. To these people, yes, immigration is certainly detrimental. But I think it is unwise to stop something that benefits 90% of the population to give a protected job market to 10% of the population. Alternative solutions must be found.

    France has for a very long time now had a minority of Muslims that are some of France's best citizens. In cities like Nice and Marseille, there are Muslim communities that live there since the 17th century, and they are good citizens. In fact, there are a lot of doctors in France with Arab last names. They come from families that live in France for centuries now. They are actually overrepresented among the professions. Many of them are doctors, lawyers and professors.

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous. Carl Sagan once commented that, if aliens came to Earth and demanded a reason why the human species shouldn't be exterminated, that we should show them Paris as the best example of what we are capable of as a species.

    But Paris has always been a city inhabited to a large degree by foreigners. The best real estate in Paris, at the central districts, is mostly owned by rich foreigners, and this has been true since time immemorial. Some of the best property in Paris has been owned by the same families since the 13th century, and a lot of those families are not French. Remember that Paris is a really, really, really old city. It was founded around 300 B.C. It was not called Paris, but rather Lutetia by the Roman occupiers of Gaul at the time of Caesar. Because it is so old, most of the best real estate has been taken for centuries. The truth is that the majority of white French people cannot afford to live in Paris, just like the majority of white Americans cannot afford to live in Manhattan.

    As proof, Brazil is a vastly superior country to such homogenous nations with unwelcoming immigration policies such as China, Korean and Japan. Empirical evidence proves to us that immigration is an unvarnished good that requires neither enforcement nor standards, and therefore all borders should be henceforth dissolved.

    Homocide rate in Brazil is only 88 times that of Japan, after all. Or 24 times more than China, but surely that’s due to higher population density in a country of 200 million versus a country of 1 billion plus.

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    Brazil has actually been one of the top #3 countries that most progressed economically in the last 60 years. Case in point: back in 1960, America's GDP was 35 X larger than Brazil's and now it is roughly a little less than 7 X larger. In fact, if you take into consideration that the American GDP is artificially overblown by the huge financial services sector, the actual figure is 5 X larger. Sure, the difference is still big, but the point is that the gap between the two countries has declined to less than 20% of what it used to be in less than 60 years. It doesen't matter the gap between the two countries now, but rather the *variation* in economic and techological progress between the two nations over the past decades, and this variation clearly favors Brazil.

    Brazil also makes nuclear reactors, super-computers and airplanes. Ever heard of Embraer? Number #4 largest aeronautic industry on Earth. Almost 40% of domestic flights in the U.S feature Embraer airplanes. You have probably had flights on them, and at an altitude of 39,000 feet above sea level, your life was at the mercy of Brazilians' ability as aeronautic engineers, from the pressurized air you breathed without which you would die from anoxia, to the turbine that heated the air so that you wouldn't freeze to temperatures lower than the ones at the South Pole, to the engines that, if they failed, would result in you plunging to your death.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950's Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable. I don't understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society. Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that? No.

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    “In fairness to France, a lot of the rhetoric about “immigration,” in the U.S. is code for race as well.”

    What’s the problem with that? Isn’t race real and shouldn’t intelligent people talk about real things? In particular, if these things look like they will have a big impact on their future? The problem here is probably the need to use code. People should not bother (or need) to talk in code.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    I agree--it would be better for both France and the U.S. if race were more out in the open. In the U.S. however, that would open the "can of worms" about black-white racial differences and capabilities, which is something that, at the present, simply cannot be faced (or admitted) by influential portions of the U.S. body politic. People who do so are called "white supremacists" and get punched on the street. France is similarly unable to confront these differences, although the problem there is still more Arab-European.
  64. @Daniel Chieh
    As proof, Brazil is a vastly superior country to such homogenous nations with unwelcoming immigration policies such as China, Korean and Japan. Empirical evidence proves to us that immigration is an unvarnished good that requires neither enforcement nor standards, and therefore all borders should be henceforth dissolved.

    Homocide rate in Brazil is only 88 times that of Japan, after all. Or 24 times more than China, but surely that's due to higher population density in a country of 200 million versus a country of 1 billion plus.

    Brazil has actually been one of the top #3 countries that most progressed economically in the last 60 years. Case in point: back in 1960, America’s GDP was 35 X larger than Brazil’s and now it is roughly a little less than 7 X larger. In fact, if you take into consideration that the American GDP is artificially overblown by the huge financial services sector, the actual figure is 5 X larger. Sure, the difference is still big, but the point is that the gap between the two countries has declined to less than 20% of what it used to be in less than 60 years. It doesen’t matter the gap between the two countries now, but rather the *variation* in economic and techological progress between the two nations over the past decades, and this variation clearly favors Brazil.

    Brazil also makes nuclear reactors, super-computers and airplanes. Ever heard of Embraer? Number #4 largest aeronautic industry on Earth. Almost 40% of domestic flights in the U.S feature Embraer airplanes. You have probably had flights on them, and at an altitude of 39,000 feet above sea level, your life was at the mercy of Brazilians’ ability as aeronautic engineers, from the pressurized air you breathed without which you would die from anoxia, to the turbine that heated the air so that you wouldn’t freeze to temperatures lower than the ones at the South Pole, to the engines that, if they failed, would result in you plunging to your death.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950′s Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable. I don’t understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society. Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that? No.

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    I can only shake my head in disbelief.

    Do you have any serious problems? I ask honestly.

    , @Hibernian
    Jet engines are not normally made by the airframe manufacturer. Major manufacturers are GE, United Technologies Pratt and Whitney Division, and Rolls Royce. Embraer and Bombardier (Canadian) received a boost when the courts in the U.S. (Tort law in the U.S. is almost all judge made common law.) became very friendly to product liability suits and unfriendly to light airplane manufacturers. They moved on to medium sized aircraft and are starting to be contenders in the heavy aircraft market.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Ever heard of Embraer?
     
    Yes, they had an abysmal safety record up through the 1980s.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950′s Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable.
     
    Yes and Brazil has made great strides in policing and penology.

    I don’t understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society.
     
    A casual googling of the terms "Brazil" together with "Favela", "Police Corruption", "Prison Riot", "Street Gang", or any number of other terms might give you a hint. Hoping that the United States might end up like Brazil is a pretty dismal aspiration. The US has traditionally been much better and much more advanced than Brazil.

    Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that?
     
    No. Neither can you. Neither can the overwhelming majority of Brazilians.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Its impressive that you actually believe your own propaganda. The fact that you are actually trying to claim credit for someone getting a Field Medal in mathematics is, well, breathtaking. Do you realize how many Asians have won?

    I refuse to participate in stupid pissing matches about my race. I would rather find it more meaningful to observe and relate evidence toward obviously failed experiments, experiments which I do not wish to duplicate where I live.

    The inability of Brazil to actually become even a decent country is manifestly obvious without that.

    As for me, personally, you don't know me at all and again, I refuse to participate in pissing matches but honestly, you really don't know who you're talking to. A brief review of my posting history would suggest some evidence of my competence. Or do you want me to post that I scored in the top 5% of IQ like some people feel the need to constantly?

    , @Santoculto
    Brazil has suffered quite a lot with dysgenic effects in its population. Because it is the most populous and extensive recent racial mixed country, people like to use Brazil as a comparative example with the US, with similar territorial and demographic magnitudes.

    The progress that Brazil has done is nothing to do with its racial mix and especially with the increase of the population of less cognitive capacity here, are parallel events that happen within the same country. Brazil is not yet a fully industrialized country (this is not necessarily bad) like the US or Germany, so all this 'progress' has been possible. The Brazilian economy nowadays is closer to the American economy, yes, that is true, but more than proving the Brazilian progress, it also reveals American stagnation.

    At the same time, more cognitively intelligent people [also} are born here and with better infrastructure, many of whom will be whiter, or of Asian (mainly Japanese) origin, or who will be rarer trirracial / blacks with genes for greater cognitive ability , People who are the exact opposite are still born here and they are increasing the crime in the country. In fact in almost every third world country, it is not only or especially the poor and generally less intelligent population that causes the problems, but also their elites of sociopaths. Without all this corruption the quality of life in Brazil would certainly be much higher, I have no doubts. However, an excellent administration also has its negative sides, for example, masking the real moral and cognitive capacity of the population, without putting it in challenges for them to prove their value.

    France and Germany have also made great recent discoveries in the area of ​​science and technology, but behind this progress we have a corrosive reality that sooner or later will become imperative. And the same for Brazil. You still have an active and even brilliant individuals in their cognitive elite, but we also have a threat that is getting stronger.

    The demographic explosion, disorganized urbanization, unacceptable levels of political corruption, disgenic processes and the great presence of warrior genes have made this state of affairs possible in Latin America... again.

  65. The French people are not the state, that is an entity made of the people but with emergent properties. States do whatever it takes to survive as states. Since 1871 France the state has been haunted by the spectre of unbeatable Germany. After WW1 France became the first country to deliberately encourage immigration, the military calculation behind immigration is shown by the fact that they give give medals to mothers. All the incentives appeal to immigrants disproportionately. As Jean Raspail said, the Fatherland betrayed by the Republic.

    Rely on it, there are far more immigrants, more people in total , within the borders of France (and Britain) than the governments know, or want to know.

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    The difference was that in those days it was European immigration only.
    - People who have, 90 years later, more or less fully assimilated into the indigenous French.
  66. @Nick Diaz
    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France's greatest novelist, was black. You don't seem to understand that what matters is individual talent and ability, and not ethnicity or nationality. You also don't seem to understand how beneficial immigration is, and how much your own high standard of living is enabled by immigrants. The reason why you can buy so many goods cheaply is because they are made by immigrants who are payed less than what native-born citizen workers would.

    You seem to focus on the social problems caused by immigration, which you greatly overblow with endless hyperboles, while ignoring the enormous benefits that immigration has bestowed on America. There was a study I saw once by the University of Chicago economics department that, if the 1965 Immigration Act had never happened, that the U.S' GDP would be 4 trillion Dollars smaller than what it is today. The truth is that immigration only hurts the bottom 5%, maybe 10% of low-skilled native-born American workers. To these people, yes, immigration is certainly detrimental. But I think it is unwise to stop something that benefits 90% of the population to give a protected job market to 10% of the population. Alternative solutions must be found.

    France has for a very long time now had a minority of Muslims that are some of France's best citizens. In cities like Nice and Marseille, there are Muslim communities that live there since the 17th century, and they are good citizens. In fact, there are a lot of doctors in France with Arab last names. They come from families that live in France for centuries now. They are actually overrepresented among the professions. Many of them are doctors, lawyers and professors.

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous. Carl Sagan once commented that, if aliens came to Earth and demanded a reason why the human species shouldn't be exterminated, that we should show them Paris as the best example of what we are capable of as a species.

    But Paris has always been a city inhabited to a large degree by foreigners. The best real estate in Paris, at the central districts, is mostly owned by rich foreigners, and this has been true since time immemorial. Some of the best property in Paris has been owned by the same families since the 13th century, and a lot of those families are not French. Remember that Paris is a really, really, really old city. It was founded around 300 B.C. It was not called Paris, but rather Lutetia by the Roman occupiers of Gaul at the time of Caesar. Because it is so old, most of the best real estate has been taken for centuries. The truth is that the majority of white French people cannot afford to live in Paris, just like the majority of white Americans cannot afford to live in Manhattan.

    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France’s greatest novelist, was black.

    He was 1/4 black. And whom to you consider to be America’s greatest novelist? Danielle Steele? Tom Clancy?

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous.

    Yeah – gorgeous, thanks to all those vibrant muslim immigrants.

    But Paris has always been a city inhabited to a large degree by foreigners.

    Like these foreigners, for example. More vibrant immigrants, enriching their host country.

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  67. OT:
    Blank-slatism, WEIRDness, and 0 problems in search of a solution run amok:

    “Yet data from Idaho — which had the *highest* rate of child marriage of the states that provided data — shows that some *55* girls under 16 were married to men 18 or older *between 2000 and 2010*.”

    No, that’s not in thousands or even hundreds. 55 girls in 10 years in state with highest rate.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/?utm_term=.dbd5ad7e0e3a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Justice Ginsberg (while a Columbia law professor, prior to her USSC appointment) advocated lowering the age of female consent to 12, in a 1977 report to the US Civil Rights Commission by the ACLU's Women's Rights Project.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    Were they all Somali immigrants?
  68. @Nick Diaz
    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France's greatest novelist, was black. You don't seem to understand that what matters is individual talent and ability, and not ethnicity or nationality. You also don't seem to understand how beneficial immigration is, and how much your own high standard of living is enabled by immigrants. The reason why you can buy so many goods cheaply is because they are made by immigrants who are payed less than what native-born citizen workers would.

    You seem to focus on the social problems caused by immigration, which you greatly overblow with endless hyperboles, while ignoring the enormous benefits that immigration has bestowed on America. There was a study I saw once by the University of Chicago economics department that, if the 1965 Immigration Act had never happened, that the U.S' GDP would be 4 trillion Dollars smaller than what it is today. The truth is that immigration only hurts the bottom 5%, maybe 10% of low-skilled native-born American workers. To these people, yes, immigration is certainly detrimental. But I think it is unwise to stop something that benefits 90% of the population to give a protected job market to 10% of the population. Alternative solutions must be found.

    France has for a very long time now had a minority of Muslims that are some of France's best citizens. In cities like Nice and Marseille, there are Muslim communities that live there since the 17th century, and they are good citizens. In fact, there are a lot of doctors in France with Arab last names. They come from families that live in France for centuries now. They are actually overrepresented among the professions. Many of them are doctors, lawyers and professors.

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous. Carl Sagan once commented that, if aliens came to Earth and demanded a reason why the human species shouldn't be exterminated, that we should show them Paris as the best example of what we are capable of as a species.

    But Paris has always been a city inhabited to a large degree by foreigners. The best real estate in Paris, at the central districts, is mostly owned by rich foreigners, and this has been true since time immemorial. Some of the best property in Paris has been owned by the same families since the 13th century, and a lot of those families are not French. Remember that Paris is a really, really, really old city. It was founded around 300 B.C. It was not called Paris, but rather Lutetia by the Roman occupiers of Gaul at the time of Caesar. Because it is so old, most of the best real estate has been taken for centuries. The truth is that the majority of white French people cannot afford to live in Paris, just like the majority of white Americans cannot afford to live in Manhattan.

    Regarding Paris, yes, Paris is gorgeous. Carl Sagan once commented that, if aliens came to Earth and demanded a reason why the human species shouldn’t be exterminated, that we should show them Paris as the best example of what we are capable of as a species.

    Maybe when Sagan was still young, on TV, and doing the “Cosmos” series (good times)

    Paris nowadays is not the same. It’s an overpopulated, dirty wreck barely keeping afloat and an immense waterhead of non-productive and overpaid civil serpentry is feeding off it. There are economic non-participants everywhere.

    Between “taxed to death”, “too many rules to follow” and “what’s the protest about today?” (sometimes the protesters being students actually unhappy to enter the workforce), the economy of France as a whole is at a standstill. It’s a PIG, the EURO has been killed, slowly at first and now with gusto by the Keynesians to great acclaim and plaudits by the churnalists, the trade balance is at 45 billion EUR/y, only Airbus seems to sell something.

    It’s over.

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    @Lot
    Based on this chart:

    https://identitairepur.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tableau-evolution-drepano-france-2006-2012.jpg

    We see for 2012, there were about 800,000 births in France. Looking at actual cases of sickle cell disease, which strongly implies two black parents, there were 310. In the USA, the rate of these for black births is about 1/500. In France it is likely a bit higher since our "black" population is about ~78% African, but in France it is likely closer to 95-100%.

    This implies 400 * 310 or 124,000 births in France to two black parents. This is 15.5% of total 2012 births, meaning France's 5 year old children are roughly as black as the USA.

    In France it is likely a bit higher since our “black” population is about ~78% African, but in France it is likely closer to 95-100%.

    100% wrong

    http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-sickle-cell-births-per-year.html

    The occurrence of the disease is high in Africa due to the predominance of malaria. The disease is more dominant 10-40%, in equatorial countries of Africa and less 1-2%, in North Africa and less than 1% in South Africa. West African countries report the highest prevalence of about 25% of the population.

    The prevalence in west Africa is ten times the prevalence in north Africa.
    African-Americans have mostly West African ancestry.
    The French equivalent is mostly north Africa.

    Your trick is to equate “Africa” with “west Africa.”

    So given

    https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/sickle-cell-disease#statistics

    Sickle cell disease is the most common inherited blood disorder in the United States, affecting 70,000 to 80,000 Americans. The disease is estimated to occur in 1 in 500 African Americans and 1 in 1,000 to 1,400 Hispanic Americans.

    a population with higher west African ancestry will have a higher rate of sickle cell so there is absolutely no chance the 1 in 500 rate in the US is going to be 1 in 400 in France.

    If the percentage of west African ancestry is lower in France – which it is – the rate will be lower not higher – so 1 in 500 is the maximum (and only possible if the French percentage of west African was the same as the US which it isn’t) and the real value will be somewhere between 1 in 500 up to the rate quoted for hispanics* or maybe even higher.

    (*as hispanics get the African part of their ancestry via Atlantic Creole who were also west African)

    So between 1 in 500 and (1 in 1200*)

    (*taking the average of the quoted hispanic rates in lieu of knowing what the north African rate is)

    this gives 310 x (500-1200)

    i.e 155,000 to 372,000

    minimum 20% up to 46%

    easily enough for the majority of all births in the big cities and the majority in working class areas elsewhere

    anyone who knows what has happened in the working class areas of European cities over the last 20-30 years knows this is true and knows it’s a giant tinder box waiting to explode

    France and Sweden first

    #

    given

    10-40% prevalence in west africa
    1-2% prevalance in north africa
    1 in 500 rate in US among population among 78% west african
    if you knew the north vs west african proportions in France you could probably calculate a better estimate of the actual rate in France rather than just guess using the hispanic rate

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    @Steve Sailer
    So if 15.5% of births in France are to two black parents, what percentage of babies born in France are to two non-black North Africans/Middle Easterners?

    What percentage to one black parent? What percentage to one MENA parent?

    the prevalence of sickle cell in north africa is 10x lower than west africa

    his numbers are based on the rates being the same i.e. totally bogus

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    @Lot
    Here's the blog that included the graphic I linked to.

    https://identitairepur.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/le-grand-remplacement-par-ab/

    The author estimates France is currently 20% "extra-European"

    The author estimates France is currently 20% “extra-European”

    And as you’ve been shown numerous times

    if
    - 20% of a population constitutes say 40% of the breeding age population
    - that sub population has a TFR 2x the rest
    then that 20% would produce 57% of the children

    the media lie about this to keep the victims of the replacement sedated

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  72. @Dahlia
    OT:
    Blank-slatism, WEIRDness, and 0 problems in search of a solution run amok:

    "Yet data from Idaho — which had the *highest* rate of child marriage of the states that provided data — shows that some *55* girls under 16 were married to men 18 or older *between 2000 and 2010*."

    No, that's not in thousands or even hundreds. 55 girls in 10 years in state with highest rate.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/?utm_term=.dbd5ad7e0e3a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1

    Justice Ginsberg (while a Columbia law professor, prior to her USSC appointment) advocated lowering the age of female consent to 12, in a 1977 report to the US Civil Rights Commission by the ACLU’s Women’s Rights Project.

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    The principled flaw with age of consent laws is that there is no parental exemption clause as there is with under-aged drinking laws.

    If a girl can convince her parents that at 15 she should be with her 19 year old boyfriend, then on what basis does the State claim greater knowledge of her ability to make such a decision? This is Hayek's argument against socialism - the information problem. Most parents won't give consent, but some will because they have greater knowledge of the situation.

    As for Ginsberg wanting the age of consent set at 12, this was the era of NAMBLA and the Left's embrace of normalizing child-adult sex.
  73. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Dieter Kief
    If you talk to the police on the streets of Straßburg, Alsace, they tell you their mayor tells them there's no problem with immigration, but they themselves say: That's what the mayor wants us to say, that's not what we see. And they mention no-go zones for themselves in their own city becuase of immigrant crime.

    Today is an interview in the German sunday-paper Die Welt with the very charming and loveley actress Emanuele Béart - who acts in the Strraßburg Theatre at the moment.
    Béart talks absolutely pro immigration in this interview - invite the world - all this lovely people! - and w o r r y about Francois Fillon and Le Pen - all those haters - this is just horrible!

    I'm asthonished that there is absolutely no french reation to Steve Sailer's impressive Taki-article.

    Michel Houellbecq would like it, I guess. But he is a lazy cat.

    It’s buried in the working class areas.

    The media-political class is lying to them so the more prosperous segments of the population won’t realize what’s happening until it all suddenly goes up in flames.

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  74. @Trelane
    By the 2070s, projecting longstanding trends, France will be a country where 90% of births will be to introgressers and only 10% to founders. If this was a proper war the generals would have to concede France has been lost.

    The issue is being forced to a question of whether France will expell the introgressors, perhaps by paying them to leave. King Edward expelled the Jews from England (all 3000 of them) in 1290 but will France expell the millions of barbarians in their midst? The cost would be staggering, perhaps a trillion franks or more. But can France afford not to?

    I'd pay 'em to leave if I were you.

    Not going to happen for France. I think they are likely doomed to descend into a hellhole. They simply do not have enough patriotic people of intelligence and fighting spirit willing to defend their nation from the human plagues imposed on them by the madness of liberalism. Bataclan and the response of the French people to that massacre convinced me that France is doomed.

    I think the situation may be different in Germany and England and Austria, although I could be wrong. In those countries they are surely infected with the liberal virus as well, but there may be enough of a critical mass of patriots who will eventually wake up and fight for the survival of their nation.

    Call it a working hypothesis to estimate the ability of a Western nation to survive the madness of the collectivist liberal ideology. And I use liberal liberally, meaning the unthinking cultural marxist egalitarianism that has infected the Western republics.

    One could actually derive a simple equation as follows: If X, the fraction of patriots divided by the fraction of white liberals in a country is less than 1/2, the nation will continue to make bad decisons,will be unable to defend itself, and will descend into chaos. In other words, and I realize this is very imprecise, when liberals exceed patriots by a factor of 2 or more, that society is doomed. The number may even be less than this but you get my point.

    In France and Sweden X is likely less than 1/2 so they are doomed. But I think that England and Austria are still greater than 1/2, so they have a real chance to win. I also believe that eventually slumbering German patriots will wake up to the madness that has been imposed on them and start to fight back. I am surprised it has not happened yet, so my assessment may be way off, as the browbeating they have taken over the years over Hitler may have damaged them beyond repair.

    The United States is also likely to be able to defeat this liberal monster given the large number of patriots in the nation and the smaller number in relative terms of liberals. Furthermore, many patriots are armed and know how to fight. But this victory will not come without a substantial cost that would have been unnecessary if the liberal madness had been put in its place years ago. On another note, I suspect our more favorable ratio of patriots to liberals has been strengthened by our longer and more intimate experience with black dysfunction, which often wakes up the most obtuse libtard when they experience what their philosophy has wrought first hand–like a felonious assault.

    But France is doomed.

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    I think the situation may be different in Germany and England and Austria, although I could be wrong. In those countries they are surely infected with the liberal virus as well, but there may be enough of a critical mass of patriots who will eventually wake up and fight for the survival of their nation.
     
    In Germany the situation is worse, probably way worse, than in France. I don't know enough about Austria or England (or, for that matter, France) to have a strong opinion about their situation relative to France.
  75. @Forbes

    Families from the Caribbean, French for about ten generations...
     
    How likely is it there are (Black) French citizens 10 generations removed from the Caribbean?

    Very. Black generations are spaced 15-25 years in Africa and Haiti. It’s not uncommon to have a 60 y.o. great-great grandmother.

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  76. @Dahlia
    OT:
    Blank-slatism, WEIRDness, and 0 problems in search of a solution run amok:

    "Yet data from Idaho — which had the *highest* rate of child marriage of the states that provided data — shows that some *55* girls under 16 were married to men 18 or older *between 2000 and 2010*."

    No, that's not in thousands or even hundreds. 55 girls in 10 years in state with highest rate.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/?utm_term=.dbd5ad7e0e3a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1

    Were they all Somali immigrants?

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  77. @Diversity Heretic
    In fairness to France, a lot of the rhetoric about "immigration," in the U.S. is code for race as well. If African refugees were Dutch Boers from South Africa (whose claim to refugee status is quite good) we would be having a debate, but it would be a different one from the one that we're having.

    I've lived recently in Paris and Toulouse: the fact of racial dispossession and replacement is evident to anyone with eyes to see.

    When I lived in Paris 2003-5 French companies (and maybe the government for all I know) had no affirmative action quotas and actively made an effort NOT to hire people with non-European names. Because it’s very hard to fire anyone in France. I assume this is still the case?

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  78. @Lot
    One reason German whites keep voting for left wing parties is the former East Germany is still poor and backward compared to the West, but the West was heavily taxed in an attempt to make up the difference. The result is that German private savings and household net worth is much lower than expected compared to income and compared to the rest of Western Europe.

    Also fueling both leftism and lower private net worth is the very low German homeownership rate.

    That gives me a lot less hope for Germany than the rest of the West.

    The Northern Trump Belt that swung heavily to the right starting around 2000 features homeownership rates above 75%. Even higher if you exclude non voters and non whites.

    Renting your whole life I believe introduces an insecurity and adverserial mindset toward the "rich" landlord in Middle Germania that just does not exist in the USA, France, Holland, and Italy.

    Looking back, Germany would be in much better shape if reunification had been a nominal confederation or even better had not happened at all.

    The Northern Trump Belt that swung heavily to the right starting around 2000 features homeownership rates above 75%

    Interesting. Would I find a source?

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    http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20161027-ENG-STM2.jpg

    Here you go. I should have said over 70%, not over 75%.

    The low homeownership states of CA, NV, and GA all swung against Trump compared to Romney. High homeownership WV, MI, MN, and IA swung for him.
  79. @Christopher Chantrill
    I was at Paris CDG airport yesterday and about half the people there appeared to be "people of color."

    Nothing to see here, folks.

    I was at Paris CDG airport yesterday and about half the people there appeared to be “people of color.”

    Ha! Check out Dulles international gates. Less than 50% white.

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  80. @Expletive Deleted
    If the colonists take over, and run it according to their own heritage customs, France will descend into a patchwork of chaos, no longer a nation-state, merely a geographical zone infested with violently contesting little fiefdoms or tribes, producing little or nothing; cities will cease to exist unless supplies are somehow bought and paid for as imports. Using what? Selling women as slaves? I don't doubt the vineyards would be first to go in a multi-kulti conflict. And unpasteurised cheese is hard to export.
    The Italy of the condottieri would look orderly, cultured and civilised in comparison.

    At that point, ze Chermans will decide that enough disorder at such proximity is genug, and pull on their Knobelbecher one more time.

    Will the Germans be in a better position?

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  81. @D. K.
    How much would it cost to do just a mandatory spay-and-neutering program?

    How much would it cost to do just a mandatory spay-and-neutering program?

    Nothing, because they would self-deport?

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  82. @Nick Diaz
    Brazil has actually been one of the top #3 countries that most progressed economically in the last 60 years. Case in point: back in 1960, America's GDP was 35 X larger than Brazil's and now it is roughly a little less than 7 X larger. In fact, if you take into consideration that the American GDP is artificially overblown by the huge financial services sector, the actual figure is 5 X larger. Sure, the difference is still big, but the point is that the gap between the two countries has declined to less than 20% of what it used to be in less than 60 years. It doesen't matter the gap between the two countries now, but rather the *variation* in economic and techological progress between the two nations over the past decades, and this variation clearly favors Brazil.

    Brazil also makes nuclear reactors, super-computers and airplanes. Ever heard of Embraer? Number #4 largest aeronautic industry on Earth. Almost 40% of domestic flights in the U.S feature Embraer airplanes. You have probably had flights on them, and at an altitude of 39,000 feet above sea level, your life was at the mercy of Brazilians' ability as aeronautic engineers, from the pressurized air you breathed without which you would die from anoxia, to the turbine that heated the air so that you wouldn't freeze to temperatures lower than the ones at the South Pole, to the engines that, if they failed, would result in you plunging to your death.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950's Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable. I don't understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society. Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that? No.

    I can only shake my head in disbelief.

    Do you have any serious problems? I ask honestly.

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    @Cortes
    Perhaps better stats are available for prescription of Vitamin D supplements which are probably issued more often to non whites?

    See, for example:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dangers-of-vitamin-d-deficiency-highlighted

    the stats are fine

    sickle cell is an ethnic illness so not testing for it (even if the rate among north africans is very low) is “racist”

    they’re not testing for it because it has a high prevalence; they’re testing for it because of who it is prevalent among

    people who want revenge on the French for WWII are the only ones quibbling

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    The West needs to be aware of what might be called The SympaTHING.

    In the opening of John Carpenter’s movie, a ‘dog’ runs from Norwegians in the copter and arrives at the US base. The Americans see a poor dog fleeing from crazed Norwegians and kill the Norwegian and save the dog. They take pity on the poor creature… that turns out to be The Thing.

    So, their sympathy for the canine thing or Sympathing turns out to be their undoing. Some invaders come at you straight ahead. It’s like when Mongols invaded China, Persia, and Russia. They came as invaders, so it was kill or be killed. But some invaders come under a guise.

    And it is under the guise as Pitiful Creatures that they gain a foothold. In a way, wolves turned into dogs by attaching themselves to humans. Humans had seen wolves as enemies, but some wolves came to be allowed into the human tribe. But it worked out well for both groups since dogs want to serve humans, not take over.

    In contrast, the Thing seeks dominance. So, it cannot show its true face and comes at the humans like a real dog in search of refuge and sanctuary. It is only a pretend-dog, a vermin in dog’s skin.

    Some races tend to be more servile than others. Some races tend to be more domineering than others either intellectually, economically, physically, or sexually.

    If they come as obvious invaders, your only option is to fight them.

    In the original THE THING by Howard Hawks, the invader is walking-killer-carrot, and you know it was a bad guy.

    But in the Carpenter movie, the Thing is very deceptive. It shifts forms. It can take on the form of a nice doggy or a fellow human. And it seeks dominance in this deceptive c
    sneaky manner.

    The attack on the West comes in two SympaThings: viral and physical, and they are interrelated.

    The viral attack is PC and Pop Culture. It infects and colonizes white minds.

    The physical attack is mass invasion, especially from Africa(and Muslim world in the case of EU) and India as its population keeps growing and its government intends to ship out 100s of millions. It invades and colonizes white lands.

    The viral sympathing infiltrates white minds in the form of PC that’s supposedly for love and against hate. So, it weakens and destroys the healthy survivalist and vitalist instincts of the white soul. White people should naturally want to defend whiteness and white culture. But PC sympathing makes white minds see whiteness as diseased, especially if whites value whiteness as thing of heritage, beauty, and identity.

    But the fact is human nature seeks something to identify with and be loyal to. Human nature has an element of tribalism. So, how can white human nature be fulfilled if whites aren’t allowed to identify with other whites. Human nature craves something to identify with. PC viruses messes with their minds and makes them identify with non-whites. Just like dogs identify with humans against other animals(even fellow canines), PC makes whites become like dogs to GLOB master against other whites. PC fills whites with viral sympathing for non-whites as ‘poor helpless victims of whites’. PC also fills whites with the notion that whites are oppressive and ‘privileged’. So, in order for a white person to be good, one must protect poor non-whites from evil whites.

    Thus, identifying with whites and fighting for white interests is seen as evil, whereas supporting non-whites against Evil Whites is seen a noble. The mentality isn’t much different from the idea of good whites fighting Evil Nazi Whites in WWII. No wonder that the GLOP declared fatwa on Trump supporters as ‘nazis’ who must be punched.

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    It’s like the Swedish Movie where the good heroic kid sides with a Jewish-looking kid against blonde ‘aryan’ looking Swedish kids. It’s like the Swedish vampire movie where a gypsy-like vampire girl forms a bond with a good Swedish boy against bad ‘aryan’ bully boys. So, whiteness can only be good in protecting non-white or less-white against the shining ‘aryan’ white’. (Though GIRL WITH DRAGON ASS TATTOO is about all whites, the freakery of the heroine makes her an honorary non-white.)
    *There is also the Wild Thing, a false promise of liberation via the exoticism-eroticism of the Other. All well-functioning social orders require restraint, discipline, self-control, and civility. The West didn’t rise by people acting like baboons. But such order makes people feel ‘repressed’, and this makes them easily drawn to the Wild Thing of easy pleasure. This is the hook of rap and hip-hop culture. It makes white folks feel free to be acting like wilder blacks. Whites feel ‘liberated’ from their lame white restraints. But once culture takes on this false freedom, social order falls apart. Such is the freedom of beasts, not of men. And consider how the Chinese fell for opium as promise of easy paradise. It seemed to be liberating from the daily grind, but it only made things worse. Such false freedoms only chain the ‘liberated’ to beastly animalism or euphoric castles in the sky.

    In a way, the sympathing is a replay with what happened with renegade Jews. Judaism was supposed to be about Jews sticking together and struggling for Jewish interests, but Jesus, Disciples, and St. Paul were renegade Jews who urged Jews to open up to gentiles and share God with them. In the end, it didn’t work with most Jews, but this idea did spread to Romans who, as Christians, developed a broader sense of fellow humanity.

    Anyway, the viral sympathing of PC works in tandem with physical sympathing. After all, what we call ‘reality’ is largely shaped by how our minds have been conditioned and programmed. Those raised with particularism will tend to be more suspicious of outsiders whereas those raised with universalism will tend to be more trusting of outsiders(even if ignorant of their true nature and intentions).
    Without PC viral sympathing infecting white minds, white people would see mass immigration, migration, and invasion for what they are: demographic war and imperialism. And they would take decisive action to stem the tide.

    BUT, the PC viral sympathing in their minds fools them into seeing the masses of foreigners as ‘poor huddled masses yearning to be free’, as objects of pity. Poor poor things. And if you honestly and coldly see them for what they really are, as physical sympathings meant to trick you, then the PC sympathing works on your emotions to make you feel no-good, cold-hearted, and nasty.

    And of course, the invaders know the trick as well. They know that their ticket to the West is playing the role of ‘poor huddled masses’. Especially in this age of viral memes and internet communication, Africans and Muslims know what cards they need up their sleeves to be allowed in. So, when ‘Syrians’ became the object of special pity, every Muslim claimed to be ‘Syrian’. And Africans know all about EU refugee policy. So, they purposely ‘endanger’ the boat in the middle of the sea so that soft-hearted and soft-headed(minds turned to mush by PC) Europeans drag them to safe harbor and allow them to run free all across Europe. And even though the invaders are playing whites for fools, so many whites with PC viral sympathing coursing their veins just LOVE playing the role of noble whitey saving all those poor poor ‘helpless’ people who, btw, purposely endangered themselves for the express purpose of fooling and sucking on whitey. It’s like a drug. They love to smoke the Hopium. They love to snort the Cuckaine.

    Viral sympathing softens whites minds for the invasion of physical sympathing.
    The invaders are sympathings because they know their entry into the rich West depends on their pulling heart-strings of gulliberal whites and cuck-roach christians whose only virtue-signaling card left is ‘we care about refugees’.
    So, even those who are coming just for free stuff, better life, and sexual opportunities speak the rhetoric of ‘huddled masses’.

    That superbowl commercial was classic sympathing. Look at poor woman and daughter. They have NO HOPE in Mexico. (I wonder why. If Mexicans are so wonderful, why don’t they do something to fix up their own nation so that people will want to stay?) Their only hope is to come to America. But BAD WHITES built a wall. They got no sympathy. But a goody goody white came along and built a door to let them in. Sympathing.
    Never mind that there are tons of nasty browns in California rioting and attacking whites. Never mind all the brown power violence against whites and even Mexican-americans who supported Trump. The commercial just gives us a mother and child, oh boo hoo hoo. This PC is now promoted even by corporate capitalism. And guess who controls advertising to sucker all the morons out there?

    It’s like in Kubrick films. Every system seeks invulnerability. It seeks to protect itself and project its power. But every system has a soft spot, usually a blind spot. White folks built something great, rich, and powerful in North America and Europe. White folks have all the power and wealth necessary to protect their own systems. They have so much power that they can conquer much of the world if they really wanted to.

    But the rise of the West owed to a culture of trust, decency, and rule of law. These advantages were meant to apply to white people in defense of the white realm(and they did tremendous good for whites), but goodness has a universal aspect to it, so the GLOB made white people feel soft-hearted and guilty for having all this Good Stuff and Wonderful System for themselves.
    Granted, non-whites could take the good ideas from the West and build their own good societies along those principles, but most seem incapable. Such failure might indicate that non-whites aren’t as good as whites in intelligence, values, and/or organization. But such conclusion would be ‘racist’. So, the only explanation must be the rest of the world is poor because of past western imperialism, and therefore, white worlds owe it to the rest of the world to open their gates to the poor creatures deserving of sympathy. But in fact, them creatures are really invaders looking for good stuff. And if you let some in, it doesn’t end there. They want their relatives to come too, and more and more. In the end, the invaders turn out to be the sympathing.
    But even when that is well-known, many whites still welcome the sympathing(despite knowing of its hostile intent) since they’ve been inculcated with so much self-loathing that they see the demise of the white world as a ‘good thing’, a deserved punishment.

    PS. A million-dollar movie idea would be E.Thing. When THE THING was released, it was overshadowed by E.T. But over the years, people don’t much care about E.T. whereas THE THING gained cult status. So, maybe a new movie can combine E.T. and THE THING into E.Thing. The story would have E.T. arriving on earth and befriending people.. but actually turning out to be Thing. It’d be cuddly and gory at the same time.

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    Appreciate your post! You've been giving this some thought!
  85. @Nick Diaz
    Brazil has actually been one of the top #3 countries that most progressed economically in the last 60 years. Case in point: back in 1960, America's GDP was 35 X larger than Brazil's and now it is roughly a little less than 7 X larger. In fact, if you take into consideration that the American GDP is artificially overblown by the huge financial services sector, the actual figure is 5 X larger. Sure, the difference is still big, but the point is that the gap between the two countries has declined to less than 20% of what it used to be in less than 60 years. It doesen't matter the gap between the two countries now, but rather the *variation* in economic and techological progress between the two nations over the past decades, and this variation clearly favors Brazil.

    Brazil also makes nuclear reactors, super-computers and airplanes. Ever heard of Embraer? Number #4 largest aeronautic industry on Earth. Almost 40% of domestic flights in the U.S feature Embraer airplanes. You have probably had flights on them, and at an altitude of 39,000 feet above sea level, your life was at the mercy of Brazilians' ability as aeronautic engineers, from the pressurized air you breathed without which you would die from anoxia, to the turbine that heated the air so that you wouldn't freeze to temperatures lower than the ones at the South Pole, to the engines that, if they failed, would result in you plunging to your death.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950's Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable. I don't understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society. Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that? No.

    Jet engines are not normally made by the airframe manufacturer. Major manufacturers are GE, United Technologies Pratt and Whitney Division, and Rolls Royce. Embraer and Bombardier (Canadian) received a boost when the courts in the U.S. (Tort law in the U.S. is almost all judge made common law.) became very friendly to product liability suits and unfriendly to light airplane manufacturers. They moved on to medium sized aircraft and are starting to be contenders in the heavy aircraft market.

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  86. @Dieter Kief

    The Northern Trump Belt that swung heavily to the right starting around 2000 features homeownership rates above 75%
     
    Interesting. Would I find a source?

    http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20161027-ENG-STM2.jpg

    Here you go. I should have said over 70%, not over 75%.

    The low homeownership states of CA, NV, and GA all swung against Trump compared to Romney. High homeownership WV, MI, MN, and IA swung for him.

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  87. The French attitude about racial statistics reminds me of the pilot’s joke about engine-out landings at night. Go into a shallow glide. Fifty feet above the ground, turn on your landing light. If the ground is too rough to land, turn off your light.

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  88. @Bragadocious
    How ironic that the French establishment is waving around the concept of "Frenchness" as a counter-argument to a racial analysis of their population. The whole reason France is now in month 15 of a state of emergency--with five extensions so far--is because whole swaths of their population are rejecting fraternite and egalite. So their Frenchness project is disaster. And the left salutes France for their "bravery" and so forth. This is the end game for the left--a fascist crackdown on speech, thought and assembly, along with a suspension of habeas corpus. Coming soon to a city and state near you, unless Trump does something big.

    This is the end game for the left–a fascist crackdown on speech, thought and assembly, along with a suspension of habeas corpus.

    Yep. It’s all going according to plan.

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  89. @Nick Diaz
    Brazil has actually been one of the top #3 countries that most progressed economically in the last 60 years. Case in point: back in 1960, America's GDP was 35 X larger than Brazil's and now it is roughly a little less than 7 X larger. In fact, if you take into consideration that the American GDP is artificially overblown by the huge financial services sector, the actual figure is 5 X larger. Sure, the difference is still big, but the point is that the gap between the two countries has declined to less than 20% of what it used to be in less than 60 years. It doesen't matter the gap between the two countries now, but rather the *variation* in economic and techological progress between the two nations over the past decades, and this variation clearly favors Brazil.

    Brazil also makes nuclear reactors, super-computers and airplanes. Ever heard of Embraer? Number #4 largest aeronautic industry on Earth. Almost 40% of domestic flights in the U.S feature Embraer airplanes. You have probably had flights on them, and at an altitude of 39,000 feet above sea level, your life was at the mercy of Brazilians' ability as aeronautic engineers, from the pressurized air you breathed without which you would die from anoxia, to the turbine that heated the air so that you wouldn't freeze to temperatures lower than the ones at the South Pole, to the engines that, if they failed, would result in you plunging to your death.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950's Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable. I don't understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society. Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that? No.

    Ever heard of Embraer?

    Yes, they had an abysmal safety record up through the 1980s.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950′s Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable.

    Yes and Brazil has made great strides in policing and penology.

    I don’t understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society.

    A casual googling of the terms “Brazil” together with “Favela”, “Police Corruption”, “Prison Riot”, “Street Gang”, or any number of other terms might give you a hint. Hoping that the United States might end up like Brazil is a pretty dismal aspiration. The US has traditionally been much better and much more advanced than Brazil.

    Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that?

    No. Neither can you. Neither can the overwhelming majority of Brazilians.

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    "Yes, they had an abysmal safety record up through the 1980s."

    Actually, there were only two crashses involving Embraer planes that did not involve human error. You cannot say the same for Boeing: literally dozens of Boeing planes have crashed, due to problems ranging from explosive decompression of the cabin to engine and flap failure in mid air. The old Boeing 747 had several fatal crashes due to it's faulty design. McDonald Douglas is even worse in terms of track record. The DC-10 is the airplane with the worst track record when it comes to accidents in aviation history.

    "Yes and Brazil has made great strides in policing and penology.A casual googling of the terms “Brazil” together with “Favela”, “Police Corruption”, “Prison Riot”, “Street Gang”, or any number of other terms might give you a hint."

    Yes, Brazil has serious problems with criminality especially homicides. But that is immaterial to the discussion. I was comparing the gap in GDP size and technological capabilities between the U.S and Brazil over a period of decades, and pointing outthat the gap between the two countries has decreased greatly over the past 50-60 years. That the gap has decreased a lot is not even debateable. Numbers don't lie. My point stands. What you are saying has literally nothing to do with my argument, and does not disprove it in any way.

    "Hoping that the United States might end up like Brazil is a pretty dismal aspiration."

    I never expressed that desire. Nice straw man.

    "The US has traditionally been much better and much more advanced than Brazil."

    True, and completely irrelevant as far as disproving my argument. The gap in economic development and technological capacity between the two countries has *decreased* over the past decades. Brazil, a multiracial society, is progressing overall faster than the U.S.

    "No. Neither can you."

    I may not be able to win a Field Medal, even though I did earn a masters in chemical engineering at age 21. But this is besides the point. The argument was: the value of ethnicities vs value of individuals. I brought up a brown Brazilian winning the Field Medal, something that most white people are not capable of doing, to elucidate why it is individuals that matter and not race.

    And yes, you certainly cannot win a Field Medal in mathematics.

    "Neither can the overwhelming majority of Brazilians."

    Neither can the overwhelming majority of white Americans. Your point is?

  90. @Nick Diaz
    Brazil has actually been one of the top #3 countries that most progressed economically in the last 60 years. Case in point: back in 1960, America's GDP was 35 X larger than Brazil's and now it is roughly a little less than 7 X larger. In fact, if you take into consideration that the American GDP is artificially overblown by the huge financial services sector, the actual figure is 5 X larger. Sure, the difference is still big, but the point is that the gap between the two countries has declined to less than 20% of what it used to be in less than 60 years. It doesen't matter the gap between the two countries now, but rather the *variation* in economic and techological progress between the two nations over the past decades, and this variation clearly favors Brazil.

    Brazil also makes nuclear reactors, super-computers and airplanes. Ever heard of Embraer? Number #4 largest aeronautic industry on Earth. Almost 40% of domestic flights in the U.S feature Embraer airplanes. You have probably had flights on them, and at an altitude of 39,000 feet above sea level, your life was at the mercy of Brazilians' ability as aeronautic engineers, from the pressurized air you breathed without which you would die from anoxia, to the turbine that heated the air so that you wouldn't freeze to temperatures lower than the ones at the South Pole, to the engines that, if they failed, would result in you plunging to your death.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950's Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable. I don't understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society. Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that? No.

    Its impressive that you actually believe your own propaganda. The fact that you are actually trying to claim credit for someone getting a Field Medal in mathematics is, well, breathtaking. Do you realize how many Asians have won?

    I refuse to participate in stupid pissing matches about my race. I would rather find it more meaningful to observe and relate evidence toward obviously failed experiments, experiments which I do not wish to duplicate where I live.

    The inability of Brazil to actually become even a decent country is manifestly obvious without that.

    As for me, personally, you don’t know me at all and again, I refuse to participate in pissing matches but honestly, you really don’t know who you’re talking to. A brief review of my posting history would suggest some evidence of my competence. Or do you want me to post that I scored in the top 5% of IQ like some people feel the need to constantly?

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  91. @Forbes
    Justice Ginsberg (while a Columbia law professor, prior to her USSC appointment) advocated lowering the age of female consent to 12, in a 1977 report to the US Civil Rights Commission by the ACLU's Women's Rights Project.

    The principled flaw with age of consent laws is that there is no parental exemption clause as there is with under-aged drinking laws.

    If a girl can convince her parents that at 15 she should be with her 19 year old boyfriend, then on what basis does the State claim greater knowledge of her ability to make such a decision? This is Hayek’s argument against socialism – the information problem. Most parents won’t give consent, but some will because they have greater knowledge of the situation.

    As for Ginsberg wanting the age of consent set at 12, this was the era of NAMBLA and the Left’s embrace of normalizing child-adult sex.

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  92. The hysteria maintained by the extreme right around sickle cell disease only masks the racism of the proponents of these theories: this is not talking about immigration, since people not born in France but originating Eastern Europe or the American continent are not detected…

    In fact, what the identary activists are trying to talk about here is the issue of ethnicity. What concerns them is non-”white” births, whether they come from people of French nationality or not, and whether these people are integrated or not.

    Actually, I suspect if France were 20% Polish and growing, some Frenchmen would be concerned about that. The British certainly didn’t seem happy about the Poles pre-Brexit. Of course, they still got called racists…

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    Complaints about Poles were a combination of legitimate complaints and proxy complaints about racial minorities which could only be expressed onto a permissible target - White European immigrants.
  93. @Anonymous
    Citizen said: Hispanics don’t exactly improve Western civilization, they don’t blow it up.

    No. Actual Spanish Hispanics are significantly Moorish admixture whites. There is Green Spain aka north Spain that is white and the rest is mestizo Mahgrebbis. The historical continuum of Spain and its New World possessions is mostly alienated from the west for genetic reasons.

    From the Rio Grande down to Patagonia there is a hybrid civilization. It's quasi western. The Hispanic Mothership, Spain, is also quasi western, but more western than the New World.

    The USA is not in conflict with either British or French Canada because we are on the same continuum of Western Civ. Not so south of the border. They are aliens and destroyers of our civilization if allowed in in large numbers.

    Wasn’t this difference played out in the 19th century in Texas? I note that the Catalonian independence movement in Spain is along the lines you identify in your comment.

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  94. @anonymous
    "In fairness to France, a lot of the rhetoric about “immigration,” in the U.S. is code for race as well."

    What's the problem with that? Isn't race real and shouldn't intelligent people talk about real things? In particular, if these things look like they will have a big impact on their future? The problem here is probably the need to use code. People should not bother (or need) to talk in code.

    I agree–it would be better for both France and the U.S. if race were more out in the open. In the U.S. however, that would open the “can of worms” about black-white racial differences and capabilities, which is something that, at the present, simply cannot be faced (or admitted) by influential portions of the U.S. body politic. People who do so are called “white supremacists” and get punched on the street. France is similarly unable to confront these differences, although the problem there is still more Arab-European.

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  95. @Anon
    The West needs to be aware of what might be called The SympaTHING.

    https://youtu.be/ZXHuGyv1KXM?t=1m8s

    In the opening of John Carpenter's movie, a 'dog' runs from Norwegians in the copter and arrives at the US base. The Americans see a poor dog fleeing from crazed Norwegians and kill the Norwegian and save the dog. They take pity on the poor creature... that turns out to be The Thing.

    So, their sympathy for the canine thing or Sympathing turns out to be their undoing. Some invaders come at you straight ahead. It's like when Mongols invaded China, Persia, and Russia. They came as invaders, so it was kill or be killed. But some invaders come under a guise.

    And it is under the guise as Pitiful Creatures that they gain a foothold. In a way, wolves turned into dogs by attaching themselves to humans. Humans had seen wolves as enemies, but some wolves came to be allowed into the human tribe. But it worked out well for both groups since dogs want to serve humans, not take over.

    In contrast, the Thing seeks dominance. So, it cannot show its true face and comes at the humans like a real dog in search of refuge and sanctuary. It is only a pretend-dog, a vermin in dog's skin.

    Some races tend to be more servile than others. Some races tend to be more domineering than others either intellectually, economically, physically, or sexually.

    If they come as obvious invaders, your only option is to fight them.

    In the original THE THING by Howard Hawks, the invader is walking-killer-carrot, and you know it was a bad guy.

    But in the Carpenter movie, the Thing is very deceptive. It shifts forms. It can take on the form of a nice doggy or a fellow human. And it seeks dominance in this deceptive c
    sneaky manner.

    The attack on the West comes in two SympaThings: viral and physical, and they are interrelated.

    The viral attack is PC and Pop Culture. It infects and colonizes white minds.

    The physical attack is mass invasion, especially from Africa(and Muslim world in the case of EU) and India as its population keeps growing and its government intends to ship out 100s of millions. It invades and colonizes white lands.

    The viral sympathing infiltrates white minds in the form of PC that's supposedly for love and against hate. So, it weakens and destroys the healthy survivalist and vitalist instincts of the white soul. White people should naturally want to defend whiteness and white culture. But PC sympathing makes white minds see whiteness as diseased, especially if whites value whiteness as thing of heritage, beauty, and identity.

    But the fact is human nature seeks something to identify with and be loyal to. Human nature has an element of tribalism. So, how can white human nature be fulfilled if whites aren't allowed to identify with other whites. Human nature craves something to identify with. PC viruses messes with their minds and makes them identify with non-whites. Just like dogs identify with humans against other animals(even fellow canines), PC makes whites become like dogs to GLOB master against other whites. PC fills whites with viral sympathing for non-whites as 'poor helpless victims of whites'. PC also fills whites with the notion that whites are oppressive and 'privileged'. So, in order for a white person to be good, one must protect poor non-whites from evil whites.

    Thus, identifying with whites and fighting for white interests is seen as evil, whereas supporting non-whites against Evil Whites is seen a noble. The mentality isn't much different from the idea of good whites fighting Evil Nazi Whites in WWII. No wonder that the GLOP declared fatwa on Trump supporters as 'nazis' who must be punched.



    It's like the Swedish Movie where the good heroic kid sides with a Jewish-looking kid against blonde 'aryan' looking Swedish kids. It's like the Swedish vampire movie where a gypsy-like vampire girl forms a bond with a good Swedish boy against bad 'aryan' bully boys. So, whiteness can only be good in protecting non-white or less-white against the shining 'aryan' white'. (Though GIRL WITH DRAGON ASS TATTOO is about all whites, the freakery of the heroine makes her an honorary non-white.)
    *There is also the Wild Thing, a false promise of liberation via the exoticism-eroticism of the Other. All well-functioning social orders require restraint, discipline, self-control, and civility. The West didn't rise by people acting like baboons. But such order makes people feel 'repressed', and this makes them easily drawn to the Wild Thing of easy pleasure. This is the hook of rap and hip-hop culture. It makes white folks feel free to be acting like wilder blacks. Whites feel 'liberated' from their lame white restraints. But once culture takes on this false freedom, social order falls apart. Such is the freedom of beasts, not of men. And consider how the Chinese fell for opium as promise of easy paradise. It seemed to be liberating from the daily grind, but it only made things worse. Such false freedoms only chain the 'liberated' to beastly animalism or euphoric castles in the sky.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QvyD4l1QR8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICp4g9p_rgo

    In a way, the sympathing is a replay with what happened with renegade Jews. Judaism was supposed to be about Jews sticking together and struggling for Jewish interests, but Jesus, Disciples, and St. Paul were renegade Jews who urged Jews to open up to gentiles and share God with them. In the end, it didn't work with most Jews, but this idea did spread to Romans who, as Christians, developed a broader sense of fellow humanity.

    Anyway, the viral sympathing of PC works in tandem with physical sympathing. After all, what we call 'reality' is largely shaped by how our minds have been conditioned and programmed. Those raised with particularism will tend to be more suspicious of outsiders whereas those raised with universalism will tend to be more trusting of outsiders(even if ignorant of their true nature and intentions).
    Without PC viral sympathing infecting white minds, white people would see mass immigration, migration, and invasion for what they are: demographic war and imperialism. And they would take decisive action to stem the tide.

    BUT, the PC viral sympathing in their minds fools them into seeing the masses of foreigners as 'poor huddled masses yearning to be free', as objects of pity. Poor poor things. And if you honestly and coldly see them for what they really are, as physical sympathings meant to trick you, then the PC sympathing works on your emotions to make you feel no-good, cold-hearted, and nasty.

    And of course, the invaders know the trick as well. They know that their ticket to the West is playing the role of 'poor huddled masses'. Especially in this age of viral memes and internet communication, Africans and Muslims know what cards they need up their sleeves to be allowed in. So, when 'Syrians' became the object of special pity, every Muslim claimed to be 'Syrian'. And Africans know all about EU refugee policy. So, they purposely 'endanger' the boat in the middle of the sea so that soft-hearted and soft-headed(minds turned to mush by PC) Europeans drag them to safe harbor and allow them to run free all across Europe. And even though the invaders are playing whites for fools, so many whites with PC viral sympathing coursing their veins just LOVE playing the role of noble whitey saving all those poor poor 'helpless' people who, btw, purposely endangered themselves for the express purpose of fooling and sucking on whitey. It's like a drug. They love to smoke the Hopium. They love to snort the Cuckaine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEg1J5rrqR8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPelTu3iupc

    Viral sympathing softens whites minds for the invasion of physical sympathing.
    The invaders are sympathings because they know their entry into the rich West depends on their pulling heart-strings of gulliberal whites and cuck-roach christians whose only virtue-signaling card left is 'we care about refugees'.
    So, even those who are coming just for free stuff, better life, and sexual opportunities speak the rhetoric of 'huddled masses'.

    That superbowl commercial was classic sympathing. Look at poor woman and daughter. They have NO HOPE in Mexico. (I wonder why. If Mexicans are so wonderful, why don't they do something to fix up their own nation so that people will want to stay?) Their only hope is to come to America. But BAD WHITES built a wall. They got no sympathy. But a goody goody white came along and built a door to let them in. Sympathing.
    Never mind that there are tons of nasty browns in California rioting and attacking whites. Never mind all the brown power violence against whites and even Mexican-americans who supported Trump. The commercial just gives us a mother and child, oh boo hoo hoo. This PC is now promoted even by corporate capitalism. And guess who controls advertising to sucker all the morons out there?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Uk6ctu7nI

    It's like in Kubrick films. Every system seeks invulnerability. It seeks to protect itself and project its power. But every system has a soft spot, usually a blind spot. White folks built something great, rich, and powerful in North America and Europe. White folks have all the power and wealth necessary to protect their own systems. They have so much power that they can conquer much of the world if they really wanted to.

    But the rise of the West owed to a culture of trust, decency, and rule of law. These advantages were meant to apply to white people in defense of the white realm(and they did tremendous good for whites), but goodness has a universal aspect to it, so the GLOB made white people feel soft-hearted and guilty for having all this Good Stuff and Wonderful System for themselves.
    Granted, non-whites could take the good ideas from the West and build their own good societies along those principles, but most seem incapable. Such failure might indicate that non-whites aren't as good as whites in intelligence, values, and/or organization. But such conclusion would be 'racist'. So, the only explanation must be the rest of the world is poor because of past western imperialism, and therefore, white worlds owe it to the rest of the world to open their gates to the poor creatures deserving of sympathy. But in fact, them creatures are really invaders looking for good stuff. And if you let some in, it doesn't end there. They want their relatives to come too, and more and more. In the end, the invaders turn out to be the sympathing.
    But even when that is well-known, many whites still welcome the sympathing(despite knowing of its hostile intent) since they've been inculcated with so much self-loathing that they see the demise of the white world as a 'good thing', a deserved punishment.

    PS. A million-dollar movie idea would be E.Thing. When THE THING was released, it was overshadowed by E.T. But over the years, people don't much care about E.T. whereas THE THING gained cult status. So, maybe a new movie can combine E.T. and THE THING into E.Thing. The story would have E.T. arriving on earth and befriending people.. but actually turning out to be Thing. It'd be cuddly and gory at the same time.

    Appreciate your post! You’ve been giving this some thought!

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  96. @Chrisnonymous

    The hysteria maintained by the extreme right around sickle cell disease only masks the racism of the proponents of these theories: this is not talking about immigration, since people not born in France but originating Eastern Europe or the American continent are not detected...

    In fact, what the identary activists are trying to talk about here is the issue of ethnicity. What concerns them is non-”white” births, whether they come from people of French nationality or not, and whether these people are integrated or not.
     
    Actually, I suspect if France were 20% Polish and growing, some Frenchmen would be concerned about that. The British certainly didn't seem happy about the Poles pre-Brexit. Of course, they still got called racists...

    Complaints about Poles were a combination of legitimate complaints and proxy complaints about racial minorities which could only be expressed onto a permissible target – White European immigrants.

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  97. Because it is so old, most of the best real estate has been taken for centuries. The truth is that the majority of white French people cannot afford to live in Paris, just like the majority of white Americans cannot afford to live in Manhattan.

    An excellent argument for radical change in both cities.

    I am bemused that a putative Leftist such as Tiny Nazi D*ck-az puts forth centuries of possession as a justification for continuing the status quo.

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  98. @donut
    Oh , BTW I meant to post this picture of my first Exxon ship . If Steve will allow me to in the future I will try to find a picture of every ship I sailed on and post it , a small pleasure to your otherwise sad and empty lives oh.... wait I was thinking about my own sad and empty life .

    http://www.aukevisser.nl/exxon/id82.htm

    An amusing story . once up in Valdez I was on deck watch . That basically meant roaming up an down the fore deck of the 925 ft. vessel discounting 200 ft. more or less for the house and poop deck . Anyway I had a radio as every body on watch did to communicate with cargo control . That day as I did my rounds I was singing the only 2-3 lines of "Some Where Over The Rainbow" that I knew . Over and over . After about 30 min. I was passing aft in front of Cargo Control and as I did so I heard a faint but frantic banging on the forward facing porthole . It turned out that my mic had been keyed the whole time . The poor guys had had to sit there for 30-40 min. listening to me repeat the same off tune lines over and over .

    I am sure I was almost this good :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZxmZmBfnU

    Always reminds me of a different Dorothy–my mom. She was a few years younger, but there’s a pretty good physical resemblance. And while she was mostly in overalls on the farm–Iowa farm girls had chores to do!–my grandmother liked blue and had her daughter in blue gingham dresses. (As a result, I never saw my mom wear a blue dress her entire life.)

    My mom couldn’t sing like that, and wasn’t the dreamy sort, but a practical, level-headed, let’s get to work type. But she loved to read–vowed to read every book in Vinton’s Carnegie library–and i can imagine her on the farm in her blue gingham dress dreaming of the world out there–which fortunately she got to travel and see quite a fair bit of in her retirement years.

    Thanks Donut.

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    @Sean
    The French people are not the state, that is an entity made of the people but with emergent properties. States do whatever it takes to survive as states. Since 1871 France the state has been haunted by the spectre of unbeatable Germany. After WW1 France became the first country to deliberately encourage immigration, the military calculation behind immigration is shown by the fact that they give give medals to mothers. All the incentives appeal to immigrants disproportionately. As Jean Raspail said, the Fatherland betrayed by the Republic.

    Rely on it, there are far more immigrants, more people in total , within the borders of France (and Britain) than the governments know, or want to know.

    The difference was that in those days it was European immigration only.
    - People who have, 90 years later, more or less fully assimilated into the indigenous French.

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  100. Tolkien talked about the long defeat. We’re in the last stages of that defeat.

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  101. @lavoisier
    Not going to happen for France. I think they are likely doomed to descend into a hellhole. They simply do not have enough patriotic people of intelligence and fighting spirit willing to defend their nation from the human plagues imposed on them by the madness of liberalism. Bataclan and the response of the French people to that massacre convinced me that France is doomed.

    I think the situation may be different in Germany and England and Austria, although I could be wrong. In those countries they are surely infected with the liberal virus as well, but there may be enough of a critical mass of patriots who will eventually wake up and fight for the survival of their nation.

    Call it a working hypothesis to estimate the ability of a Western nation to survive the madness of the collectivist liberal ideology. And I use liberal liberally, meaning the unthinking cultural marxist egalitarianism that has infected the Western republics.

    One could actually derive a simple equation as follows: If X, the fraction of patriots divided by the fraction of white liberals in a country is less than 1/2, the nation will continue to make bad decisons,will be unable to defend itself, and will descend into chaos. In other words, and I realize this is very imprecise, when liberals exceed patriots by a factor of 2 or more, that society is doomed. The number may even be less than this but you get my point.

    In France and Sweden X is likely less than 1/2 so they are doomed. But I think that England and Austria are still greater than 1/2, so they have a real chance to win. I also believe that eventually slumbering German patriots will wake up to the madness that has been imposed on them and start to fight back. I am surprised it has not happened yet, so my assessment may be way off, as the browbeating they have taken over the years over Hitler may have damaged them beyond repair.

    The United States is also likely to be able to defeat this liberal monster given the large number of patriots in the nation and the smaller number in relative terms of liberals. Furthermore, many patriots are armed and know how to fight. But this victory will not come without a substantial cost that would have been unnecessary if the liberal madness had been put in its place years ago. On another note, I suspect our more favorable ratio of patriots to liberals has been strengthened by our longer and more intimate experience with black dysfunction, which often wakes up the most obtuse libtard when they experience what their philosophy has wrought first hand--like a felonious assault.

    But France is doomed.

    I think the situation may be different in Germany and England and Austria, although I could be wrong. In those countries they are surely infected with the liberal virus as well, but there may be enough of a critical mass of patriots who will eventually wake up and fight for the survival of their nation.

    In Germany the situation is worse, probably way worse, than in France. I don’t know enough about Austria or England (or, for that matter, France) to have a strong opinion about their situation relative to France.

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    You may well be right.

    But in my travels the liberal philosophy was really hard wired into the French mind, while I saw sparks of a resurgent nationalism in the Germans.

    The problem today is that any hint of nationalism is equated with being a Nazi, hence the reluctance to give a damn about your nation, its history, or its people.

    I am not an apologist for the holocaust, even if the numbers may have been inflated, any more than I would defend or cover up the horror of the Bolsheviks. But caring for your own people seems a normal approach to life.

  102. @Nick Diaz
    Brazil has actually been one of the top #3 countries that most progressed economically in the last 60 years. Case in point: back in 1960, America's GDP was 35 X larger than Brazil's and now it is roughly a little less than 7 X larger. In fact, if you take into consideration that the American GDP is artificially overblown by the huge financial services sector, the actual figure is 5 X larger. Sure, the difference is still big, but the point is that the gap between the two countries has declined to less than 20% of what it used to be in less than 60 years. It doesen't matter the gap between the two countries now, but rather the *variation* in economic and techological progress between the two nations over the past decades, and this variation clearly favors Brazil.

    Brazil also makes nuclear reactors, super-computers and airplanes. Ever heard of Embraer? Number #4 largest aeronautic industry on Earth. Almost 40% of domestic flights in the U.S feature Embraer airplanes. You have probably had flights on them, and at an altitude of 39,000 feet above sea level, your life was at the mercy of Brazilians' ability as aeronautic engineers, from the pressurized air you breathed without which you would die from anoxia, to the turbine that heated the air so that you wouldn't freeze to temperatures lower than the ones at the South Pole, to the engines that, if they failed, would result in you plunging to your death.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950's Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable. I don't understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society. Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that? No.

    Brazil has suffered quite a lot with dysgenic effects in its population. Because it is the most populous and extensive recent racial mixed country, people like to use Brazil as a comparative example with the US, with similar territorial and demographic magnitudes.

    The progress that Brazil has done is nothing to do with its racial mix and especially with the increase of the population of less cognitive capacity here, are parallel events that happen within the same country. Brazil is not yet a fully industrialized country (this is not necessarily bad) like the US or Germany, so all this ‘progress’ has been possible. The Brazilian economy nowadays is closer to the American economy, yes, that is true, but more than proving the Brazilian progress, it also reveals American stagnation.

    At the same time, more cognitively intelligent people [also} are born here and with better infrastructure, many of whom will be whiter, or of Asian (mainly Japanese) origin, or who will be rarer trirracial / blacks with genes for greater cognitive ability , People who are the exact opposite are still born here and they are increasing the crime in the country. In fact in almost every third world country, it is not only or especially the poor and generally less intelligent population that causes the problems, but also their elites of sociopaths. Without all this corruption the quality of life in Brazil would certainly be much higher, I have no doubts. However, an excellent administration also has its negative sides, for example, masking the real moral and cognitive capacity of the population, without putting it in challenges for them to prove their value.

    France and Germany have also made great recent discoveries in the area of ​​science and technology, but behind this progress we have a corrosive reality that sooner or later will become imperative. And the same for Brazil. You still have an active and even brilliant individuals in their cognitive elite, but we also have a threat that is getting stronger.

    The demographic explosion, disorganized urbanization, unacceptable levels of political corruption, disgenic processes and the great presence of warrior genes have made this state of affairs possible in Latin America… again.

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  103. You gave a miniscule reference to malaria, yet failed to acknowledge that sickle cell disease arose as a genetic means to AVOID malaria, since infected mosquitoes can’t consume the “deformed” blood cells.
    Please provide all NECESSARY information – O/W, it becomes “fake news”.
    Semper Fi’
    DM

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    This blog post is a follow-up to my Taki's Magazine column, linked from the post, where I do discuss the fascinating evolutionary origin of sickle cell.
  104. @DiamondMair
    You gave a miniscule reference to malaria, yet failed to acknowledge that sickle cell disease arose as a genetic means to AVOID malaria, since infected mosquitoes can't consume the "deformed" blood cells.
    Please provide all NECESSARY information - O/W, it becomes "fake news".
    Semper Fi'
    DM

    This blog post is a follow-up to my Taki’s Magazine column, linked from the post, where I do discuss the fascinating evolutionary origin of sickle cell.

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    Would it be too much to ask, that you post your articles in their ENTIRETY, when you bounce them from Taki's, to here, to VDare? I landed here from VDare, which I LOATHED doing, as I've already indicated in a letter there. Time is precious, and personally, I DON'T appreciate being 'directed' hither & yon on the 'Net, to seemingly satisfy someone's ego.
    Semper Fi'
    DM
  105. @reiner Tor

    I think the situation may be different in Germany and England and Austria, although I could be wrong. In those countries they are surely infected with the liberal virus as well, but there may be enough of a critical mass of patriots who will eventually wake up and fight for the survival of their nation.
     
    In Germany the situation is worse, probably way worse, than in France. I don't know enough about Austria or England (or, for that matter, France) to have a strong opinion about their situation relative to France.

    You may well be right.

    But in my travels the liberal philosophy was really hard wired into the French mind, while I saw sparks of a resurgent nationalism in the Germans.

    The problem today is that any hint of nationalism is equated with being a Nazi, hence the reluctance to give a damn about your nation, its history, or its people.

    I am not an apologist for the holocaust, even if the numbers may have been inflated, any more than I would defend or cover up the horror of the Bolsheviks. But caring for your own people seems a normal approach to life.

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    Yes, Holocaustianity is killing the Germans. I'm not a holocaust-denier 1488 type, so yes, the holocaust did happen, yes, it was horrendous mass murder, yes, the Nazis were mostly bad (and, as already mentioned, mass murderers), but no, Hitler wasn't Satan, no, it wasn't the most horrible mass murder ever (arguably not even the most horrible mass murder of the 20th century; though it's possible to devise metrics according to which it really was the worst; older mass murders, which happened when the population was lower, are difficult to compare anyway), no, it wasn't all bad (most bad regimes do some good things, too), and no, the Germans shouldn't focus all of their education and national consciousness on those twelve years, as this can only result in a warped worldview, which is ultimately not even in the interest of other peoples. I think not even in the interest of Jews, though I'm of the opinion that the whole PC madness is not in the Jews' interest.
  106. @syonredux

    Steve Sailer, Alexandre Dumas, probably France’s greatest novelist,
     
    No, he wasn't. He simply does not compare to Flaubert, Proust, Balzac, Stendhal, etc.

    was black.
     
    He was majority European in ancestry.

    No comparison between Dumas and Proust in terms of artistic talent and expression.

    The former is more of an entertainer; the latter a genius.

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  107. @Mr. Anon

    Ever heard of Embraer?
     
    Yes, they had an abysmal safety record up through the 1980s.

    Considering that as recently as the 1950′s Brazil was literally on the level of sub-Saharan Africa and that Brazilians died by the hundreds of thousands to tropical diseases like Dengue Fever, Yellow fever and Malaria, the progress they have made is actually quite remarkable.
     
    Yes and Brazil has made great strides in policing and penology.

    I don’t understand why so many people like to use Brazil as an example of a failed multiracial society.
     
    A casual googling of the terms "Brazil" together with "Favela", "Police Corruption", "Prison Riot", "Street Gang", or any number of other terms might give you a hint. Hoping that the United States might end up like Brazil is a pretty dismal aspiration. The US has traditionally been much better and much more advanced than Brazil.

    Oh, and recently a brown Brazilian won the Fields Medal in mathematics. Can you do that?
     
    No. Neither can you. Neither can the overwhelming majority of Brazilians.

    “Yes, they had an abysmal safety record up through the 1980s.”

    Actually, there were only two crashses involving Embraer planes that did not involve human error. You cannot say the same for Boeing: literally dozens of Boeing planes have crashed, due to problems ranging from explosive decompression of the cabin to engine and flap failure in mid air. The old Boeing 747 had several fatal crashes due to it’s faulty design. McDonald Douglas is even worse in terms of track record. The DC-10 is the airplane with the worst track record when it comes to accidents in aviation history.

    “Yes and Brazil has made great strides in policing and penology.A casual googling of the terms “Brazil” together with “Favela”, “Police Corruption”, “Prison Riot”, “Street Gang”, or any number of other terms might give you a hint.”

    Yes, Brazil has serious problems with criminality especially homicides. But that is immaterial to the discussion. I was comparing the gap in GDP size and technological capabilities between the U.S and Brazil over a period of decades, and pointing outthat the gap between the two countries has decreased greatly over the past 50-60 years. That the gap has decreased a lot is not even debateable. Numbers don’t lie. My point stands. What you are saying has literally nothing to do with my argument, and does not disprove it in any way.

    “Hoping that the United States might end up like Brazil is a pretty dismal aspiration.”

    I never expressed that desire. Nice straw man.

    “The US has traditionally been much better and much more advanced than Brazil.”

    True, and completely irrelevant as far as disproving my argument. The gap in economic development and technological capacity between the two countries has *decreased* over the past decades. Brazil, a multiracial society, is progressing overall faster than the U.S.

    “No. Neither can you.”

    I may not be able to win a Field Medal, even though I did earn a masters in chemical engineering at age 21. But this is besides the point. The argument was: the value of ethnicities vs value of individuals. I brought up a brown Brazilian winning the Field Medal, something that most white people are not capable of doing, to elucidate why it is individuals that matter and not race.

    And yes, you certainly cannot win a Field Medal in mathematics.

    “Neither can the overwhelming majority of Brazilians.”

    Neither can the overwhelming majority of white Americans. Your point is?

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    What gives, Nick? After posting umpteen long, ignorant comments at iSteve you have never won an argument. You merely demonstrate that brown skinned folks are a nuisance - even pretend "smart" ones with fake degrees that should have been awarded to a more deserving White man.

    Brazil sucks. That's why twerps like you leave & come to White countries. Then you immediately demand we let more swarthy crybabies in.

    Resentment. You are jealous of White superiority and it really grates on you.

    You will never be White, or demonstrate White maturity. Your joke "masters degree" means nothing to adult Whites. Go away, child. There are plenty of kids tables on the internet for you to hang out at and spew your self satisfied low IQ nonsense.

    You prove White supremacy more convincingly than even the hardest core alt-right sites on the net. So thanks... but go away before you hurt yourself. You are out of your league here.
  108. @Diversity Heretic
    The news out of Brazil these days doesn't leave me marveling that France or the U.S. might someday resemble it. The feeling is quite different.

    On Brazil: It’s funny that aldaily.com linked to a story about Stefan Zweig’s last years. He was a world famous author on the run from the nazis. He had been well-received in Brazil and declared its racial mixing to be Europe’s only hope. However, he found the end of Europe so distressing that he killed himself in Brazil. A lesson in that.

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  109. @Nick Diaz
    "Yes, they had an abysmal safety record up through the 1980s."

    Actually, there were only two crashses involving Embraer planes that did not involve human error. You cannot say the same for Boeing: literally dozens of Boeing planes have crashed, due to problems ranging from explosive decompression of the cabin to engine and flap failure in mid air. The old Boeing 747 had several fatal crashes due to it's faulty design. McDonald Douglas is even worse in terms of track record. The DC-10 is the airplane with the worst track record when it comes to accidents in aviation history.

    "Yes and Brazil has made great strides in policing and penology.A casual googling of the terms “Brazil” together with “Favela”, “Police Corruption”, “Prison Riot”, “Street Gang”, or any number of other terms might give you a hint."

    Yes, Brazil has serious problems with criminality especially homicides. But that is immaterial to the discussion. I was comparing the gap in GDP size and technological capabilities between the U.S and Brazil over a period of decades, and pointing outthat the gap between the two countries has decreased greatly over the past 50-60 years. That the gap has decreased a lot is not even debateable. Numbers don't lie. My point stands. What you are saying has literally nothing to do with my argument, and does not disprove it in any way.

    "Hoping that the United States might end up like Brazil is a pretty dismal aspiration."

    I never expressed that desire. Nice straw man.

    "The US has traditionally been much better and much more advanced than Brazil."

    True, and completely irrelevant as far as disproving my argument. The gap in economic development and technological capacity between the two countries has *decreased* over the past decades. Brazil, a multiracial society, is progressing overall faster than the U.S.

    "No. Neither can you."

    I may not be able to win a Field Medal, even though I did earn a masters in chemical engineering at age 21. But this is besides the point. The argument was: the value of ethnicities vs value of individuals. I brought up a brown Brazilian winning the Field Medal, something that most white people are not capable of doing, to elucidate why it is individuals that matter and not race.

    And yes, you certainly cannot win a Field Medal in mathematics.

    "Neither can the overwhelming majority of Brazilians."

    Neither can the overwhelming majority of white Americans. Your point is?

    What gives, Nick? After posting umpteen long, ignorant comments at iSteve you have never won an argument. You merely demonstrate that brown skinned folks are a nuisance – even pretend “smart” ones with fake degrees that should have been awarded to a more deserving White man.

    Brazil sucks. That’s why twerps like you leave & come to White countries. Then you immediately demand we let more swarthy crybabies in.

    Resentment. You are jealous of White superiority and it really grates on you.

    You will never be White, or demonstrate White maturity. Your joke “masters degree” means nothing to adult Whites. Go away, child. There are plenty of kids tables on the internet for you to hang out at and spew your self satisfied low IQ nonsense.

    You prove White supremacy more convincingly than even the hardest core alt-right sites on the net. So thanks… but go away before you hurt yourself. You are out of your league here.

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  110. @Jim Don Bob
    More stories!

    Why would Exxon sell a 14 year old ship?

    Stress from the heavy seas. From fall to spring it is one continuous storm , and Houston Co. HQ as the Exxon Valdez so dramatically demonstrated does not give a shit for the facts of life . TIME , TIME , TIME . Save time . Once the president of Exxon Shipping came out to visit the ships in port . The president of a shipping company , he literally did not know how to come up the gangway . The Exxon Benicia (the North Slope’s sister ship) left the shipyard in Japan after major yard work . Two days out there were some heavy seas . The next morning when the dayworkers came out on deck there were cracks in the deck three to four inches wide across the deck . 10-15 feet in length . They turned around and went back to Japan , with everybody dressed and in their life jackets all the way . I might have posted this before but will again . It is tragedy and a crime .

    http://seamenschurch.org/article/the-sinking-of-the-ss-marine-electric

    The Third mate said in his own written description of the sinking that as he was going down the ladder from the bridge the engine room crew called him on the radio and asked if they were finished with engines . At that moment the ship capsized . Like my friend John washed off the stern of the Exxon Baltimore I often think what their last moments were like .

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  111. @Steve Sailer
    This blog post is a follow-up to my Taki's Magazine column, linked from the post, where I do discuss the fascinating evolutionary origin of sickle cell.

    Would it be too much to ask, that you post your articles in their ENTIRETY, when you bounce them from Taki’s, to here, to VDare? I landed here from VDare, which I LOATHED doing, as I’ve already indicated in a letter there. Time is precious, and personally, I DON’T appreciate being ‘directed’ hither & yon on the ‘Net, to seemingly satisfy someone’s ego.
    Semper Fi’
    DM

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  112. @DiamondMair
    Would it be too much to ask, that you post your articles in their ENTIRETY, when you bounce them from Taki's, to here, to VDare? I landed here from VDare, which I LOATHED doing, as I've already indicated in a letter there. Time is precious, and personally, I DON'T appreciate being 'directed' hither & yon on the 'Net, to seemingly satisfy someone's ego.
    Semper Fi'
    DM

    Yes, it would be.

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  113. Steve: I think you and the author(s) of the Le Monde article are talking at cross purposes a bit when it comes to “French” identity. The French elite – and probably the hoi poloi – are highly fearful that the French language will be swamped out of existence by English. So they view 10th generation francophones from Martinique as being culturally and linguistically “French”. For the purposes of preserving the French language, these Caribbeans count as Frenchmen. Therefore, they carry more “Frenchness” pokemon points than the hypothetical white, but non-French speaker, from eastern Europe. This is obviously a red herring in the sickle cell debate but it partially explains some of the more confounding statements in the article.

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    The French elite – and probably the hoi poloi – are highly fearful that the French language will be swamped out of existence by English. So they view 10th generation francophones from Martinique as being culturally and linguistically “French”.
     
    Perhaps that was the case ten years ago. I highly doubt that's still the case. Anyone with eyes can see what's up.
  114. @SnakeEyes
    Steve: I think you and the author(s) of the Le Monde article are talking at cross purposes a bit when it comes to "French" identity. The French elite - and probably the hoi poloi - are highly fearful that the French language will be swamped out of existence by English. So they view 10th generation francophones from Martinique as being culturally and linguistically "French". For the purposes of preserving the French language, these Caribbeans count as Frenchmen. Therefore, they carry more "Frenchness" pokemon points than the hypothetical white, but non-French speaker, from eastern Europe. This is obviously a red herring in the sickle cell debate but it partially explains some of the more confounding statements in the article.

    The French elite – and probably the hoi poloi – are highly fearful that the French language will be swamped out of existence by English. So they view 10th generation francophones from Martinique as being culturally and linguistically “French”.

    Perhaps that was the case ten years ago. I highly doubt that’s still the case. Anyone with eyes can see what’s up.

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  115. @Anonymouse
    I lived in Paris for 1 winter and 2 summers - 1954-55. Plenty of Arabs and black Africans from the francophone colonies visible to this 20 yr old eye. All in all a very civilized space. As an American student I had limited entree into French life but I had some.

    Visible memory is the heterogenous vehicles in the street, pre-war and post-war Citroens, little 4-door Renaults, Vespas and Lambrettas, motorcycles, middle market 4 door Simcas, 2 door 2 fiscal hp Citroens beloved then and now, Solex bicycles with tiny engines on the back wheel, and most exotic of all, 3 wheel motorized wheel chairs, steered with a rod by recumbent wounded war veterans, vehicle supplied by social services, mixed into the other traffic. And pedal bicycles of course.

    I revisited France in 1966 on honeymoon, in 1998, 2001, 2003, 2005. All those times, except for 2005, I stayed with a high-school friend. She lived in the 10th arrondissement, imagine between the giant Gare du Nord train station and Place Stalingrad. Closest metro was Stalingrad but that was super creepy at night, an elevated line, one descended into a dark space. So it was better to walk a bit further from a metro stop on a different subway line. On one visit we were locked out of Cynthia's apartment and slept on the landing. I went out during the night to try to rouse Cynthia's son in his apartment, trying and succeeding in using a telephone card in one of the ubiquitous phone booths on the blvd. Young African blacks socialized on the street - this is like 3am - and kept darting in and out of the phone booths pretending to be making calls to back home. I was amazed to read a recent book by Naipaul partially set in Berlin in which he recounted the same scene.

    In 2005 we did a magic late-spring month in an apt owned by a well-to-do American couple. It was their pied-a-terre in Paris - they lived in the Vosges - and their last year renting it. It was your standard 1 bedroom fifth-floor apartment but it was 1 block from the Luxembourg Gardens. Same street Gertrude Stein lived in at one point - rue Fleurus.

    And your point being?

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  116. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep, one more generation of this TFR differences and France is sunk. If whites births are in the ball park of 66 out of a 100 and whites TFR is 1.6, that implies a ~20% decrease in the number white children for the next generation. Let's say that those 66 white babies born today grow up to have have ~53 kids.

    Now, if France's overall TRF is 2.0, that means that non-whites have a TFR of ~2.85. That means that those 33 kids being born now will have around 33% more kids or ~44 people. So future France just from one generation of different TRFs will have 53 young white people and 44 young non-white of which ~33 (75%) will be Muslim. Add in very modest immigration from Africa and Middle East - ~0.1% a year - and those numbers pop up to ~47 non-whites, of which 35 or so will be Muslim.

    Wild guessing here but likely not too far off if just one more generation of different TFRs. In a generation, France's births would be 47% non-white and 35% Muslim. (Given that Muslims already may be 25% of young people, my guess could be on the optimistic side.)

    In 25 to 30 years, France's under 30 population could be split between whites and non-whites - and that's with almost no immigration. Even if TFRs equalize by that point, France is changed forever. How many countries function well with a third of their population being Muslim? Any?

    Sure, you could argue that the United States is there already with one half of births being white. But while Hispanics don't exactly improve Western civilization, they don't blow it up. Muslims - like blacks - are in their own special category when it comes to Western civilization. Blacks are simply incapable of maintaining such a civilization. Muslims want to destroy it.

    i like your reasoning. i was eying up a luxury apartment on the french riviera
    but your argument on this thread killed it.
    it is better to rent than own in la bongobongoland!

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  117. @Lot
    http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20161027-ENG-STM2.jpg

    Here you go. I should have said over 70%, not over 75%.

    The low homeownership states of CA, NV, and GA all swung against Trump compared to Romney. High homeownership WV, MI, MN, and IA swung for him.

    Thank you. I’ll spread the word.

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  118. @lavoisier
    You may well be right.

    But in my travels the liberal philosophy was really hard wired into the French mind, while I saw sparks of a resurgent nationalism in the Germans.

    The problem today is that any hint of nationalism is equated with being a Nazi, hence the reluctance to give a damn about your nation, its history, or its people.

    I am not an apologist for the holocaust, even if the numbers may have been inflated, any more than I would defend or cover up the horror of the Bolsheviks. But caring for your own people seems a normal approach to life.

    Yes, Holocaustianity is killing the Germans. I’m not a holocaust-denier 1488 type, so yes, the holocaust did happen, yes, it was horrendous mass murder, yes, the Nazis were mostly bad (and, as already mentioned, mass murderers), but no, Hitler wasn’t Satan, no, it wasn’t the most horrible mass murder ever (arguably not even the most horrible mass murder of the 20th century; though it’s possible to devise metrics according to which it really was the worst; older mass murders, which happened when the population was lower, are difficult to compare anyway), no, it wasn’t all bad (most bad regimes do some good things, too), and no, the Germans shouldn’t focus all of their education and national consciousness on those twelve years, as this can only result in a warped worldview, which is ultimately not even in the interest of other peoples. I think not even in the interest of Jews, though I’m of the opinion that the whole PC madness is not in the Jews’ interest.

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  119. Guess what, Steve? The “Institut national de la statistique et des études économiques” did publish an official survey on the ethnic composition of France:

    https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2575541

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