The Unz Review - Mobile
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersiSteve Blog
Kirsten Gillibrand Running to be President Cool Wine Aunt
🔊 Listen RSS
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
AgreeDisagreeLOLTroll
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Troll, or LOL with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used once per hour.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

From the New York Times:

‘This Is My Space’: Kirsten Gillibrand’s Unabashedly Feminist Campaign

By Lisa Lerer and Shane Goldmacher
Feb. 12, 2019

The morning after the election of Donald J. Trump, Kirsten Gillibrand woke up and began crying. “Bawling,” she corrected herself.

After spending the next two months “deeply depressed,” the junior senator from New York experienced what she called the most inspiring day of her political life: the women’s march. And almost two years to the day after that, Ms. Gillibrand sat in a Manhattan wine bar, holding a glass of pinot noir, and described why she believes the country and the Democratic Party need an unabashedly feminist campaign for president — and why she thinks she’s the candidate to run it.

“You understand, this is my space,” Ms. Gillibrand said, in an interview.

… Ms. Gillibrand is the only one who is making running as a woman, for women, the central theme of her candidacy.

… But she is choosing the mantle of feminist crusader at a time when other core Democratic issues are more problematic for her.

As a House member from upstate New York earlier in her political career, she held far more conservative positions on gun control and immigration. Her years as a corporate lawyer, taking clients that included a big tobacco company, and her past as a voracious fund-raiser from Wall Street donors complicate her ability to attack greed and inequality in big business. …

Of President Trump’s 2017 tweet that Ms. Gillibrand “would come to my office ‘begging’ for campaign contributions,” she called the president “misogynistic,” saying in the interview, “I mean, he essentially called me a prostitute!”

There is no real precedent for Ms. Gillibrand’s strategy: As a candidate, Hillary Clinton struggled to talk about her gender, and essentially tried to copy the approach of the male presidential candidates who had preceded her, said Jennifer Palmieri, Mrs. Clinton’s former communications director.

Really? I don’t recall Hillary had any issues besides It’s My Turn.

There is also the math: Women are expected to make up a clear majority of voters in a Democratic primary — nearly 60 percent, according to Celinda Lake, a Democratic pollster who specializes in female voting behavior. …

Speaking of female voting behavior, the NYT article goes on to report:

Linda Smoley, who hosted Mrs. Clinton at her Sioux City, Iowa, home in 2015 and attended Ms. Gillibrand’s first house party in Iowa in January, said she was so distressed after Mr. Trump was elected that she got anti-depressants from her doctor and then accidentally drove her car into her house.

Don’t you just hate it when you do that? I blame Trump.

 
Hide 94 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. OT

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    young Africans will shape the future of the entire world
     
    Well, that part's liable to be true anyway, particularly if we let it.
    , @Realist
    Then the world is truly screwed.
    , @TTSSYF
    They're likely to shape the future of the entire world, with or without the right investments.
    , @Jake
    Something worse than a new Dark Ages is approaching.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    If I run for president in the 2020 GOP presidential primary against Trump, a 99 percent wealth tax on billionaires will be part of my platform.

    This 99 percent wealth tax on billionaires will be touted as a way to stop the billionaires from completely and totally destroying the United States with their pernicious influence on politics and policy.

    Bill Gates is a baby boomer globalizer who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Tweets from 2014:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/488001916337524736

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/464419578089467904
    , @MarkinLA
    Too bad Steven Hawking died before he ever saw his African Newton. Well, I guess, nobody lives past 2500.
    , @songbird
    I'm sure, he meant to say "without", then give a laundry list of military hardware, including anti-personal mines.
    , @bomag
    I thought Bill Gates was shaping the future of the world?
    , @Forbes
    For the entirety of my life, leftist do-gooders have been saying and selling the same story about Africa, about socialism/communism, that it hasn't been done right, yet.

    Yet, apparently, resides in the imagination, in fantasy, because it doesn't reside in reality or experience.
    , @istevefan
    I clicked on your Bill Gates tweet and then went to his main twitter account. Admittedly I am being judgemental, but his wife has not held up well. I can't believe she lets him post that picture of her so prominently for Bill's 46 million followers to see.
    , @AnotherDad

    The median age in Africa is about half the median age in North America. With the right investments, young Africans will shape the future of the entire world.
     
    Gates is wrong. Young Africans will shape Africa, and maybe the West if the silliness continues.

    But they aren't going to shape "the entire world". The Chinese--unaffected by this minoritarian totalitarianism we suffer under--won't do any of this immigration crap and they'll shape the world.
    , @Neoconned
    For all the crap that will hit the fan coming out of Africa there is much opportunity to be had in investing there....
  2. Women may be a majority of voters, but they still are hesitant to vote for a complete fruitcake. Gillibrand’s too neurotic to win.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    She isn't neurotic. She's bogus. Remember Groucho Marx's line, "those are my principles; if you don't like them, I have others"? Downstate pols took to calling her 'Tracy Flick' when Gov. Patterson appointed her to Hellary's seat in the Senate, but she's more fluid and socially-adept than the film character (though just as pointlessly ambitious). She has children, she's stayed out of the divorce courts, she has some baseline of general intelligence, and she knows how to dress. Other than that, there's nothing appealing about her. Most presidential candidacies (4 out of 7) sink without a trace, so it's a reasonable wager we'll been entertained by seeing her earned failure.
  3. Anyone who would cry over an election is too immature to vote

    • Agree: Tyrion 2, Brutusale, sayless
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Women may be a majority of voters, but they still are hesitant to vote for a complete fruitcake. Gillibrand’s too neurotic to win.
     
    Congratulations: the women you know are far more mature than the ones I know.
    , @Another Canadian
    Or too drunk.
    , @TTSSYF
    And too immature to be a Senator, much less President.
  4. And almost two years to the day after that, Ms. Gillibrand sat in a Manhattan wine bar, holding a glass of pinot noir…

    “You understand, this is my space,” Ms. Gillibrand said

    So the wine bar is her space?

    • Replies: @dearieme
    Pinot Noir? On of those over-sweet American wines, or a superb example from Burgundy or NZ? I think we should be told. Was it a patriotic wine?
  5. Really? I don’t recall Hillary had any issues besides It’s My Turn.

  6. She leaned in, her voice husky, a little too much perfume, red wine and pepper jack cheese cubes.

    “He called me a prostitute. Me! A United States Senator!”

    The Senator paused to reflect.

    “America should be like a wine bar. Lots of varieties of wine, that anyone can try. And no closing time!” (snort)

    After rooting around in her giant handbag for a while, the Senator continued.

    “People don’t think I can keep up with the young gals, but let me tell you I’ll go margarita-for-margarita with Anicasio Cortelyou anytime, anywhere.”

    The Senator produced a bent cigarette from her bag, triumphant.

    “Trump reminds me of my ex. he used to say, Gilly, don’t drink so much, don’t smoke it’s bad for you. But he was banging the housekeeper!” (snort)

    “Hey! I lit the wrong end!”

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Pure genius, Sir!
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Ghost, Too funny for just the LOL button.
  7. That’s who you want as President – someone who cries hysterically after a reverse and falls into a deep depression for two months.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    ^This.^
    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    At least Robert Duvall only let his post-Barbarossa depression last a few days

    https://youtu.be/nQ5cTUkKTro?t=8248
    , @Dr. X
    Kirsten Gillibrand is a f---ing bimbo. She is the very archetype of the stupid blonde. She's got the mental capacity of a ninth-grader on the JV cheerleading squad. She's not fit to teach seventh grade girls how to use a tampon in health class, let alone be a sitting United States Senator.

    ...and it's not an ad hominem attack to say this if it's TRUE.
  8. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    young Africans will shape the future of the entire world

    Well, that part’s liable to be true anyway, particularly if we let it.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @bomag

    liable to be true anyway
     
    Indeed.

    And liable to be true with the wrong investments.
    , @Neuday
    We should probably start disabling nukes. Or using them up.
  9. @AndrewR
    Anyone who would cry over an election is too immature to vote

    Women may be a majority of voters, but they still are hesitant to vote for a complete fruitcake. Gillibrand’s too neurotic to win.

    Congratulations: the women you know are far more mature than the ones I know.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I didn't write that text you quoted, lol. My sentiments are closer to yours.
  10. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    She leaned in, her voice husky, a little too much perfume, red wine and pepper jack cheese cubes.

    "He called me a prostitute. Me! A United States Senator!"

    The Senator paused to reflect.

    "America should be like a wine bar. Lots of varieties of wine, that anyone can try. And no closing time!" (snort)

    After rooting around in her giant handbag for a while, the Senator continued.

    "People don't think I can keep up with the young gals, but let me tell you I'll go margarita-for-margarita with Anicasio Cortelyou anytime, anywhere."

    The Senator produced a bent cigarette from her bag, triumphant.

    "Trump reminds me of my ex. he used to say, Gilly, don't drink so much, don't smoke it's bad for you. But he was banging the housekeeper!" (snort)

    "Hey! I lit the wrong end!"

    Pure genius, Sir!

  11. And of course, there’s the fact she’s a white female to hurt her amongst sassy black women and wise Latinas.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    And of course, there’s the fact she’s a white female to hurt her amongst sassy black women and wise Latinas.
     
    The blonde hair will not play well with women who have spent a lifetime resenting Beckys.

    She also has the voice of a teen girl, which is probably not what people think about as desirous in a Commander in Chief.

    My surmise is that she's running for a Cabinet position.
  12. Linda Smoley, who hosted Mrs. Clinton at her Sioux City, Iowa, home in 2015 and attended Ms. Gillibrand’s first house party in Iowa in January, said she was so distressed after Mr. Trump was elected that she got anti-depressants from her doctor and then accidentally drove her car into her house.

    You left out the best part of the article, Steve.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    But is the "she" in that sentence Ms. Smoley?

    They're all puppets, including President Trump. But his election may contribute to someone like Senator Gillibrand letting her hair down, thinking that being so candidly calculating, shallow and undignified is a path to success. If that helps more of us to renounce the entire political Establishment and abandon the voting that props up the Empire, great.
    , @RebelWriter
    Something's missing from that story, like about four martinis, I think.
  13. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    Then the world is truly screwed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    Perhaps the information age just allows mass hysterias to spread further and faster. It's like a modern witch burning hysteria, spread via the the institutions the left has long run - the media and the academy - but now with increasing and infectious reach. The information age hasn't improved human nature, it's just allowed many of our bad traits to flourish.

    In 'the current year', the hysteria is the left's usual blank slatism, which has morphed into a monstrous version of its prior self. It used to be that the left believed Blacks were inherently as capable (or so they stated), but there was at least patience to let their programs work and gains be made. Now the left demands sweeping changes to bring about immediate equality or transformational policies - like mass immigration - that tacitly assume all races, and even people within races, are interchangeable widgets. So urban, liberal Whites across the West believe they can have a child-free life, replace themselves with Congolese refugees, and somehow in 50 years everything will be the same.

    The information age isn't spreading truth to most people, it's spreading hysteria and delusion.

  14. There is also the math: Women are expected to make up a clear majority of voters in a Democratic primary — nearly 60 percent…

    Democrats have managed to drive away white men. Will Hispanic and black men want to be associated with this hen party?

    • Replies: @Corn
    Drive away? Wouldn’t bet on it, but not impossible probably. When that Abortion-Uber-Alles woman Davis ran for governor of Texas in 2014 one exit poll had her carrying Hispanic men by one point. That’s a constituency a Democrat would normally carry by 25-30 points or more.

    I don’t think you’ll get black or Hispanic men tilting Republican any time in the foreseeable future but you may get more than a few to say “F it” and stay home on Election Day next year if the Democrats become too cackling of a feminist freakshow.
  15. Speaking of which:

    I’ve got several hundred pretty decent quality but not too rare 1976-1985 vinyl records sitting in a big stack in the garage. I tended to buy first and second albums by groups — e.g., Ramones, Cheap Trick, Clash, Talking Heads, Police, U2 — whose third or fourth albums would be big hits.

    Talking Heads and Police first two albums are classics. You’re judging things through a Clash lense.

    I’d be happy to take your collection off you for $100 USD.

    So 2019

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    Melvins too (the lead singer is a Jew too)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eObop0waGII
    , @Pat Hannagan
    Pretty soon everyone's self worth will equate to a monthly dollar amount on a patreon account

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg14Ocs03xA

    https://imgur.com/LIqYn7h

    , @Pat Hannagan
    I don't care what anyone has to say Rattle and Hum and Joshua Tree are top 100 White Albums of All Time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et6epq5fslg

    White and Green

    , @Charles Pewitt
    Without looking up on the internet for the lyrics of The Girls Want To Be With The Girls I'll give remembered impressions of the song:

    I want to talk

    I'll bring the problems to you

    The girls say they're concerned

    Concerned about problems

    Hard logic

    Boys get lost

    Far reaching plans

    Abstract analysis

    Relationships

    Side to side

    Make up your mind

    I'm pretty sure I misremembered the song to a certain extent, but it's Friday.

    David Byrne was trying to get laid with some New York City baby boomer era ladies and they were driving him crazy, so he wrote a song about these brainwashed broads who ain't getting with the simple birds and the bees business, and they were making plans to put their crazy female baby boomer plans into action.

    These filthy White baby boomer broads are running amok and their malignant hate for just about everybody is now intensified by the fact that now nobody but senile billionaire Rupert Murdoch wants to bang them.

    All these baby boomer psychotic harpies that David Byrne was writing about ain't so succulent no more.

    These baby boomer succubus harpies are Hell bent on pushing mass immigration and globalization as a way to bring down the curtain on European Christendom.

    I think the drums in the song were somewhat martial to indicate the militancy of these nutcake baby boomer broads that Byrne was writing about.
  16. I tend to think these lyrics were slightly overdone:

    That’s the terror of knowing
    What this world is about.
    Watching some good friends screaming,
    “Let me out!”

    Has anyone ever listened to what an overblown boomeraidsfest this song is?

    Queen never wrote one good album. Best album was 1st version of Greatest Hits (not the one with seven seas of rhye)

  17. The morning after the election of Donald J. Trump, Kirsten Gillibrand woke up and began crying. “Bawling,” she corrected herself.

    Her honesty is the scary part. Who would admit this in public, let alone use it to bolster a presidential campaign. Are we now bragging about mental illness? This sounds like real 25th amendment stuff.

    • Replies: @anon
    I figured this out back when Bill Clinton was introduced to the Dem convention with that "Man from Hope" video. My God, I thought, that's the childhood of a serial killer, not a President.
    , @Thea
    You’ve not yet realized that in 2019 the mentally ill are our moral superiors?
    , @Hail

    Are we now bragging about mental illness?
     
    "In which William Munny stumbles across Jussie Smollett's strategy (upcoming) to weasel out of his hoax attack."
  18. Kirsten, apparently, is too dim to grasp that she is a junior associate in the law firm of Vic, Tim & Ization. Senior partners take their orders from ADL, Sheldon and Haim. No way to argue against success.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/10/my-victimhood-is-bigger-than-yours-or.html

  19. @Pat Hannagan
    Speaking of which:

    I’ve got several hundred pretty decent quality but not too rare 1976-1985 vinyl records sitting in a big stack in the garage. I tended to buy first and second albums by groups — e.g., Ramones, Cheap Trick, Clash, Talking Heads, Police, U2 — whose third or fourth albums would be big hits.

    Talking Heads and Police first two albums are classics. You're judging things through a Clash lense.

    I'd be happy to take your collection off you for $100 USD.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl2rXT7LvyM

    So 2019

    Melvins too (the lead singer is a Jew too)

  20. @AndrewR
    Anyone who would cry over an election is too immature to vote

    Or too drunk.

    • LOL: AndrewR
  21. If we could somehow get Vince McMahon to become her campaign manager, imagine all the hair pulling at the primary debates.

  22. Kirsten Gillibrand and her friend Linda Smoley sound a lot like a few Trump Derangement Syndrome ladies my wife knew after the 2016 election. They drank a lot of Chardonnay, popped Prozac and sleeping pills and babbled incoherently about Nazis. We cut them loose shortly after because life is too short, especially if you live it like they were.

  23. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    They’re likely to shape the future of the entire world, with or without the right investments.

  24. @AndrewR
    Anyone who would cry over an election is too immature to vote

    And too immature to be a Senator, much less President.

  25. Does it not occur to the NYT that portraying Gillibrand and her supporters as prone to taking to the fainting couch when faced with political disappointment might not play well with a pretty big chunk of voters?

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    Arc, I think an article like this is meant by the Times to winnow the field, not endorse or help Gillibrand. Nobody named Kirsten is going to win a national election anyway. The NYT’s job now is to make its chosen candidate (Harris?) seem inevitable.

    But this story *will* resonate with the Dem coalition, legitimizing the emotional anguish of many of its members. I wonder whether that’s the point of the profile? Booker’s revelation that he’s a vegan equally makes him into a totem for some demographic in the fringes coalition, while disqualifying him as a practical matter for the presidency.

    By primary time, maybe each of the Dem candidates on the debate stage will stand as just such a totem for some segment of the coalition? When they all “unite” behind the pre-chosen candidate, that will symbolize, to the onlooker, the friendship among all the disparate segments of the coalition—the boozy white wine-ladies like Gillibrand, the (gay) black vegans like Booker, etc.—segments that (as Steve notes) otherwise have actual animosity towards each other.

    It will be like the pantheon of gods in Ancient Greece: each god was once been a distinct cult with its own exclusive followers, but enrolling them all in a divine “family” pacified religious conflict, and allowed the Greeks to get on with larger political goals.
    , @Jack D
    Short answer: no. In their world, weeping over Trump was the right thing to do. Remember that Hillary wouldn't even come out and face her supporters on the night that she lost. She just stayed in her hotel room and (presumably) got drunk.

    This is fine with me. Trump is not the most popular President in history and there is a chance that he could lose the election, given all the damage that the media and the Permanent Government tries to inflict on him on a daily basis. However, his best chance for re-election is if the Democrats turn to someone who is far left, a radical feminist, etc. so that candidate will be even more alienating to mainstream Americans than Trump is. It won't be easy for the Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory but they did it before with Hillary and I'm counting on them to do it again.
  26. I so despise female politicians who play up the feminist angle and talk in such aggrieved ways and go and on about being a woman, representing women, etc. etc., as though it’s a badge of honor. Grow up, silly women, and stop talking about crying and depression! Those are weaknesses, and if you succumb to them, do it in private and keep it to yourself, as the typical man would do.

    Give me a no-nonsense woman such as a Margaret Thatcher or a Jean Kirkpatrick, and I’ll consider voting for her. But these flakey women who drone on about women’s issues when they’re running for national office to represent 320+ million people can forget about ever getting my vote.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  27. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @al-Gharaniq

    Linda Smoley, who hosted Mrs. Clinton at her Sioux City, Iowa, home in 2015 and attended Ms. Gillibrand’s first house party in Iowa in January, said she was so distressed after Mr. Trump was elected that she got anti-depressants from her doctor and then accidentally drove her car into her house.

     

    You left out the best part of the article, Steve.

    But is the “she” in that sentence Ms. Smoley?

    They’re all puppets, including President Trump. But his election may contribute to someone like Senator Gillibrand letting her hair down, thinking that being so candidly calculating, shallow and undignified is a path to success. If that helps more of us to renounce the entire political Establishment and abandon the voting that props up the Empire, great.

  28. Linda Smoley, who hosted Mrs. Clinton at her Sioux City, Iowa, home in 2015 and attended Ms. Gillibrand’s first house party in Iowa in January, said she was so distressed after Mr. Trump was elected that she got anti-depressants from her doctor and then accidentally drove her car into her house.

    She was so upset she came all the way home in reverse and then drove into the house instead of backing into it as usual.

  29. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    Something worse than a new Dark Ages is approaching.

  30. @Pat Hannagan
    Speaking of which:

    I’ve got several hundred pretty decent quality but not too rare 1976-1985 vinyl records sitting in a big stack in the garage. I tended to buy first and second albums by groups — e.g., Ramones, Cheap Trick, Clash, Talking Heads, Police, U2 — whose third or fourth albums would be big hits.

    Talking Heads and Police first two albums are classics. You're judging things through a Clash lense.

    I'd be happy to take your collection off you for $100 USD.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl2rXT7LvyM

    So 2019

    Pretty soon everyone’s self worth will equate to a monthly dollar amount on a patreon account

    View post on imgur.com

  31. @Pat Hannagan
    Speaking of which:

    I’ve got several hundred pretty decent quality but not too rare 1976-1985 vinyl records sitting in a big stack in the garage. I tended to buy first and second albums by groups — e.g., Ramones, Cheap Trick, Clash, Talking Heads, Police, U2 — whose third or fourth albums would be big hits.

    Talking Heads and Police first two albums are classics. You're judging things through a Clash lense.

    I'd be happy to take your collection off you for $100 USD.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl2rXT7LvyM

    So 2019

    I don’t care what anyone has to say Rattle and Hum and Joshua Tree are top 100 White Albums of All Time.

    White and Green

  32. @Anonymous

    And almost two years to the day after that, Ms. Gillibrand sat in a Manhattan wine bar, holding a glass of pinot noir...

    “You understand, this is my space,” Ms. Gillibrand said
     
    So the wine bar is her space?

    Pinot Noir? On of those over-sweet American wines, or a superb example from Burgundy or NZ? I think we should be told. Was it a patriotic wine?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    It better be a New York wine. She owes us that.
    , @tyrone
    She should be FORCED to drink Taylor lake country red!!!!
  33. That car crash bit … right out of Casino. Is it possible some editor at the Times is desperately trying to subliminally communicate that women aren’t fit to vote? That can’t be right, right?

  34. @william munny

    The morning after the election of Donald J. Trump, Kirsten Gillibrand woke up and began crying. “Bawling,” she corrected herself.

     

    Her honesty is the scary part. Who would admit this in public, let alone use it to bolster a presidential campaign. Are we now bragging about mental illness? This sounds like real 25th amendment stuff.

    I figured this out back when Bill Clinton was introduced to the Dem convention with that “Man from Hope” video. My God, I thought, that’s the childhood of a serial killer, not a President.

    • LOL: Romanian
  35. @william munny

    The morning after the election of Donald J. Trump, Kirsten Gillibrand woke up and began crying. “Bawling,” she corrected herself.

     

    Her honesty is the scary part. Who would admit this in public, let alone use it to bolster a presidential campaign. Are we now bragging about mental illness? This sounds like real 25th amendment stuff.

    You’ve not yet realized that in 2019 the mentally ill are our moral superiors?

  36. @Mr McKenna

    Women may be a majority of voters, but they still are hesitant to vote for a complete fruitcake. Gillibrand’s too neurotic to win.
     
    Congratulations: the women you know are far more mature than the ones I know.

    I didn’t write that text you quoted, lol. My sentiments are closer to yours.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Sorry about that! It's happened a couple of times lately.
  37. @al-Gharaniq

    Linda Smoley, who hosted Mrs. Clinton at her Sioux City, Iowa, home in 2015 and attended Ms. Gillibrand’s first house party in Iowa in January, said she was so distressed after Mr. Trump was elected that she got anti-depressants from her doctor and then accidentally drove her car into her house.

     

    You left out the best part of the article, Steve.

    Something’s missing from that story, like about four martinis, I think.

  38. Linda Smoley, who hosted Mrs. Clinton at her Sioux City, Iowa, home in 2015 and attended Ms. Gillibrand’s first house party in Iowa in January, said she was so distressed after Mr. Trump was elected that she got anti-depressants from her doctor and then accidentally drove her car into her house.

    Linda Smoley for Secretary of Transportation in the Harris/Warren/Gillibrand sisterhood-collective administration? Clearly, these are the kind of people we want to put in the driver’s seat.

  39. @Arclight
    Does it not occur to the NYT that portraying Gillibrand and her supporters as prone to taking to the fainting couch when faced with political disappointment might not play well with a pretty big chunk of voters?

    Arc, I think an article like this is meant by the Times to winnow the field, not endorse or help Gillibrand. Nobody named Kirsten is going to win a national election anyway. The NYT’s job now is to make its chosen candidate (Harris?) seem inevitable.

    But this story *will* resonate with the Dem coalition, legitimizing the emotional anguish of many of its members. I wonder whether that’s the point of the profile? Booker’s revelation that he’s a vegan equally makes him into a totem for some demographic in the fringes coalition, while disqualifying him as a practical matter for the presidency.

    By primary time, maybe each of the Dem candidates on the debate stage will stand as just such a totem for some segment of the coalition? When they all “unite” behind the pre-chosen candidate, that will symbolize, to the onlooker, the friendship among all the disparate segments of the coalition—the boozy white wine-ladies like Gillibrand, the (gay) black vegans like Booker, etc.—segments that (as Steve notes) otherwise have actual animosity towards each other.

    It will be like the pantheon of gods in Ancient Greece: each god was once been a distinct cult with its own exclusive followers, but enrolling them all in a divine “family” pacified religious conflict, and allowed the Greeks to get on with larger political goals.

    • Agree: Arclight
    • Replies: @Romanian
    Brilliant comment! Someone get this man one of the coveted golden borders
    , @Hail

    The NYT’s job now is to make its chosen candidate (Harris?) seem inevitable
     
    I can see the "identity politics" (race politics) angle, but absent that, why would anyone want this woman? For president, that is.
  40. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    If I run for president in the 2020 GOP presidential primary against Trump, a 99 percent wealth tax on billionaires will be part of my platform.

    This 99 percent wealth tax on billionaires will be touted as a way to stop the billionaires from completely and totally destroying the United States with their pernicious influence on politics and policy.

    Bill Gates is a baby boomer globalizer who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Tweets from 2014:

    • Replies: @Neuday
    I believe you might run; I've seen Presidential candidates less committed to self-promotion.
  41. Isn’t all this stuff, basically, the same?

  42. @Pat Hannagan
    Speaking of which:

    I’ve got several hundred pretty decent quality but not too rare 1976-1985 vinyl records sitting in a big stack in the garage. I tended to buy first and second albums by groups — e.g., Ramones, Cheap Trick, Clash, Talking Heads, Police, U2 — whose third or fourth albums would be big hits.

    Talking Heads and Police first two albums are classics. You're judging things through a Clash lense.

    I'd be happy to take your collection off you for $100 USD.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl2rXT7LvyM

    So 2019

    Without looking up on the internet for the lyrics of The Girls Want To Be With The Girls I’ll give remembered impressions of the song:

    I want to talk

    I’ll bring the problems to you

    The girls say they’re concerned

    Concerned about problems

    Hard logic

    Boys get lost

    Far reaching plans

    Abstract analysis

    Relationships

    Side to side

    Make up your mind

    I’m pretty sure I misremembered the song to a certain extent, but it’s Friday.

    David Byrne was trying to get laid with some New York City baby boomer era ladies and they were driving him crazy, so he wrote a song about these brainwashed broads who ain’t getting with the simple birds and the bees business, and they were making plans to put their crazy female baby boomer plans into action.

    These filthy White baby boomer broads are running amok and their malignant hate for just about everybody is now intensified by the fact that now nobody but senile billionaire Rupert Murdoch wants to bang them.

    All these baby boomer psychotic harpies that David Byrne was writing about ain’t so succulent no more.

    These baby boomer succubus harpies are Hell bent on pushing mass immigration and globalization as a way to bring down the curtain on European Christendom.

    I think the drums in the song were somewhat martial to indicate the militancy of these nutcake baby boomer broads that Byrne was writing about.

    • Replies: @Skipper
    Pretty sure Byrne was gay, no?
  43. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    Too bad Steven Hawking died before he ever saw his African Newton. Well, I guess, nobody lives past 2500.

    • LOL: jim jones
  44. Of President Trump’s 2017 tweet that Ms. Gillibrand “would come to my office ‘begging’ for campaign contributions,” she called the president “misogynistic,” saying in the interview, “I mean, he essentially called me a prostitute!”

    Is she implying she slept with Trump but that it wasn’t for campaign contributions? That is the most logical understanding of this paragraph in isolation; is it not?

  45. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    I’m sure, he meant to say “without”, then give a laundry list of military hardware, including anti-personal mines.

  46. @Arclight
    Does it not occur to the NYT that portraying Gillibrand and her supporters as prone to taking to the fainting couch when faced with political disappointment might not play well with a pretty big chunk of voters?

    Short answer: no. In their world, weeping over Trump was the right thing to do. Remember that Hillary wouldn’t even come out and face her supporters on the night that she lost. She just stayed in her hotel room and (presumably) got drunk.

    This is fine with me. Trump is not the most popular President in history and there is a chance that he could lose the election, given all the damage that the media and the Permanent Government tries to inflict on him on a daily basis. However, his best chance for re-election is if the Democrats turn to someone who is far left, a radical feminist, etc. so that candidate will be even more alienating to mainstream Americans than Trump is. It won’t be easy for the Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory but they did it before with Hillary and I’m counting on them to do it again.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  47. Sometimes, Keepers of the Deep State Flame are unintentionally hilarious.

  48. @Mr McKenna

    young Africans will shape the future of the entire world
     
    Well, that part's liable to be true anyway, particularly if we let it.

    liable to be true anyway

    Indeed.

    And liable to be true with the wrong investments.

  49. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    I thought Bill Gates was shaping the future of the world?

  50. I think Senator G will be putting less faith in Feminism to win her the WH- and more in $$ from ‘Big Tobacco’ and Wall Street. Wonder if she’s tried approaching ‘Big Alcohol’?

  51. Gillibrand is a politician Gila monster from a family of horribly shady political fixers in New York.

    Gillibrand has Mucha and Noonan and Rutnik and much else scarily lurking in her past.

    Gillibrand’s grandmother was an enforcer and brutal bitch who conducted her New York state political mob with a ruthless swagger. Gillibrand’s grandmother was a mean bitch who didn’t take no back talk from weasel politicians who weren’t trustworthy or who failed to carry out her orders.

    Discount the viciousness and power of this Gillibrand bitch at your peril, you damn dopes. She and her family scare the Hell out of me!

    Gillibrand is politically gunning for Kamala Harris and Harris thinks this smiling, blue-eyed blond Gillibrand woman ain’t much of nothing.

    WRONG!

    Do NOT Underestimate This Gillibrand Woman!

  52. @Redneck farmer
    And of course, there's the fact she's a white female to hurt her amongst sassy black women and wise Latinas.

    And of course, there’s the fact she’s a white female to hurt her amongst sassy black women and wise Latinas.

    The blonde hair will not play well with women who have spent a lifetime resenting Beckys.

    She also has the voice of a teen girl, which is probably not what people think about as desirous in a Commander in Chief.

    My surmise is that she’s running for a Cabinet position.

  53. When commenter Lot posted an excerpt from this article a few days ago, I honestly leaned towards thinking it was a parody he’d written; it is somewhere near the current-year, murky border zone of real vs. parody:

    Ms. Gillibrand sat in a Manhattan wine bar, holding a glass of pinot noir, and described why she believes the country and the Democratic Party need an unabashedly feminist campaign for president

    Had to google-check that this wasn’t a parody Lot had written for amusement.

    Ghost of Bull Moose’s extension of this passage:

    Ms. Gillibrand sat in a Manhattan wine bar, holding a glass of pinot noir, and described why she believes the country and the Democratic Party need an unabashedly feminist campaign for president.

    “I’m an experienced woman,” she said, crossing her legs and swinging a shapely calf enticingly. “What I can do to this country you can’t even imagine.”

    Ms Gillibrand gave a knowing smile and leaned in, bringing a hint of sophisticated parfum with a touch of pinot and cheese plate.

    “And I’m not afraid to try new things.”

  54. anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:

    Her years as a corporate lawyer, taking clients

    In other words hunted for money no matter the source. Now this campaign is probably an extension of that, looking to see how much she can amass in donations. The feminist angle seems to be a reliable brand. It’s been said that up to a quarter of women are using anti-depressants. That’s a whole sub-category right there. Why do I think they all vote Democratic?

  55. Gillibrand star has sort of fallen. Maybe a year or two ago she had some credibility but the slow collapse of GE and the continuing diminishment of other Upstate NY former industrial leaders like Xerox and Kodak don’t make her look good. Her embrace of a Green New Deal (really gov Cuomo’s fault) which has left upstate NY with various projects that did not work out does not help her.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Hey, if the point of the famous Buffalo Billion was to send some obnoxious minor cretins to jail, mission accomplished.
  56. Talking to reporters is one of her jobs. In 2019 drinking on the job is idiotic. I didn’t see the date stamp on the interview. It was also idiotic in 2018.

    Is Putin still maintaining he’s a teetotaler (although nobody really believes it)?

  57. @Realist
    Then the world is truly screwed.

    Perhaps the information age just allows mass hysterias to spread further and faster. It’s like a modern witch burning hysteria, spread via the the institutions the left has long run – the media and the academy – but now with increasing and infectious reach. The information age hasn’t improved human nature, it’s just allowed many of our bad traits to flourish.

    In ‘the current year’, the hysteria is the left’s usual blank slatism, which has morphed into a monstrous version of its prior self. It used to be that the left believed Blacks were inherently as capable (or so they stated), but there was at least patience to let their programs work and gains be made. Now the left demands sweeping changes to bring about immediate equality or transformational policies – like mass immigration – that tacitly assume all races, and even people within races, are interchangeable widgets. So urban, liberal Whites across the West believe they can have a child-free life, replace themselves with Congolese refugees, and somehow in 50 years everything will be the same.

    The information age isn’t spreading truth to most people, it’s spreading hysteria and delusion.

  58. @tsotha

    There is also the math: Women are expected to make up a clear majority of voters in a Democratic primary — nearly 60 percent...
     
    Democrats have managed to drive away white men. Will Hispanic and black men want to be associated with this hen party?

    Drive away? Wouldn’t bet on it, but not impossible probably. When that Abortion-Uber-Alles woman Davis ran for governor of Texas in 2014 one exit poll had her carrying Hispanic men by one point. That’s a constituency a Democrat would normally carry by 25-30 points or more.

    I don’t think you’ll get black or Hispanic men tilting Republican any time in the foreseeable future but you may get more than a few to say “F it” and stay home on Election Day next year if the Democrats become too cackling of a feminist freakshow.

  59. @Mr McKenna

    young Africans will shape the future of the entire world
     
    Well, that part's liable to be true anyway, particularly if we let it.

    We should probably start disabling nukes. Or using them up.

    • Agree: M. Hartley
  60. Meanwhile, Occasional Cortex has decided that her private time ball-squeezing of some random, Paul Bunyan’s gingerly betamax cousin should be also considered as a part of the Green New Deal :

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-15/twitter-bans-user-who-says-ocasio-cortez-placed-boyfriend-her-staff

    • Replies: @Hail
    See also discussion in another recent thread:

    Any comments on the iSteveian revelation that Oscasio-Cortez’ boyfriend is one of those much-hated White males (name: Riley Roberts, reportedly from Boston) and is drawing a salary as a a paid member of her taxpayer-funded staff?
     

    Pic of the two from Vogue (wearing beard, blank expression, loafers without socks, and setaed in front of an Apple product placement. Note also the thick book, ‘Capital,’ on the shelf — likely Marx and Engels’ classic Das Kapital)
     
    It turned out to be Thomas Piketty's Capital.

    Anon[308] says:
    @Hail

    That’s Thomas Piketty’s “Capital.”

    I wonder if she read it, or he read it, or, as is the case with most who bought it, neither has. It was a popular book to whip out on the subway to signal your intellectual hipness when it came out, accounting for its very low Kindle-to-hardback sales ratio, since you can’t signal with a Kindle book.

    Piketty’s book was the genesis of the current obsession with the wealth gap, which has grown to encompass the redlining conspiracy.
     

    , @tyrone
    Congress-critters can do what they want …….and the white BF …..it's the cunnilingus man ,black dudes don't…white dudes do.
    , @Mr McKenna
    I wish you guys would stop poking fun at a Strong, Independent Woman of Color just to compensate for your deep-seated feelings of inadequacy. I happen to know that she was taking the oath of office in this photo, surrounded by her staff that Looks Like America. She was not--I repeat not--preparing to bitch-slap the photographer.

    https://i.ibb.co/XYvNcJ5/ocasio-boyfrienda.jpg
  61. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    For the entirety of my life, leftist do-gooders have been saying and selling the same story about Africa, about socialism/communism, that it hasn’t been done right, yet.

    Yet, apparently, resides in the imagination, in fantasy, because it doesn’t reside in reality or experience.

  62. @RobUK
    That’s who you want as President - someone who cries hysterically after a reverse and falls into a deep depression for two months.

    ^This.^

  63. Really? I don’t recall Hillary had any issues besides It’s My Turn.

    That’s what she said– just like the male candidates who preceded Hillary.

  64. @Anon
    Women may be a majority of voters, but they still are hesitant to vote for a complete fruitcake. Gillibrand's too neurotic to win.

    She isn’t neurotic. She’s bogus. Remember Groucho Marx’s line, “those are my principles; if you don’t like them, I have others”? Downstate pols took to calling her ‘Tracy Flick’ when Gov. Patterson appointed her to Hellary’s seat in the Senate, but she’s more fluid and socially-adept than the film character (though just as pointlessly ambitious). She has children, she’s stayed out of the divorce courts, she has some baseline of general intelligence, and she knows how to dress. Other than that, there’s nothing appealing about her. Most presidential candidacies (4 out of 7) sink without a trace, so it’s a reasonable wager we’ll been entertained by seeing her earned failure.

  65. @dearieme
    Pinot Noir? On of those over-sweet American wines, or a superb example from Burgundy or NZ? I think we should be told. Was it a patriotic wine?

    It better be a New York wine. She owes us that.

  66. @George
    Gillibrand star has sort of fallen. Maybe a year or two ago she had some credibility but the slow collapse of GE and the continuing diminishment of other Upstate NY former industrial leaders like Xerox and Kodak don't make her look good. Her embrace of a Green New Deal (really gov Cuomo's fault) which has left upstate NY with various projects that did not work out does not help her.

    Hey, if the point of the famous Buffalo Billion was to send some obnoxious minor cretins to jail, mission accomplished.

  67. @RobUK
    That’s who you want as President - someone who cries hysterically after a reverse and falls into a deep depression for two months.

    At least Robert Duvall only let his post-Barbarossa depression last a few days

  68. @william munny

    The morning after the election of Donald J. Trump, Kirsten Gillibrand woke up and began crying. “Bawling,” she corrected herself.

     

    Her honesty is the scary part. Who would admit this in public, let alone use it to bolster a presidential campaign. Are we now bragging about mental illness? This sounds like real 25th amendment stuff.

    Are we now bragging about mental illness?

    “In which William Munny stumbles across Jussie Smollett’s strategy (upcoming) to weasel out of his hoax attack.”

  69. @bored identity
    Meanwhile, Occasional Cortex has decided that her private time ball-squeezing of some random, Paul Bunyan's gingerly betamax cousin should be also considered as a part of the Green New Deal :

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/ocasio%20boyfrienda.jpg?itok=QcTP3Tgx


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-15/twitter-bans-user-who-says-ocasio-cortez-placed-boyfriend-her-staff

    See also discussion in another recent thread:

    Any comments on the iSteveian revelation that Oscasio-Cortez’ boyfriend is one of those much-hated White males (name: Riley Roberts, reportedly from Boston) and is drawing a salary as a a paid member of her taxpayer-funded staff?

    Pic of the two from Vogue (wearing beard, blank expression, loafers without socks, and setaed in front of an Apple product placement. Note also the thick book, ‘Capital,’ on the shelf — likely Marx and Engels’ classic Das Kapital)

    It turned out to be Thomas Piketty’s Capital.

    Anon[308] says:

    That’s Thomas Piketty’s “Capital.”

    I wonder if she read it, or he read it, or, as is the case with most who bought it, neither has. It was a popular book to whip out on the subway to signal your intellectual hipness when it came out, accounting for its very low Kindle-to-hardback sales ratio, since you can’t signal with a Kindle book.

    Piketty’s book was the genesis of the current obsession with the wealth gap, which has grown to encompass the redlining conspiracy.

  70. @RobUK
    That’s who you want as President - someone who cries hysterically after a reverse and falls into a deep depression for two months.

    Kirsten Gillibrand is a f—ing bimbo. She is the very archetype of the stupid blonde. She’s got the mental capacity of a ninth-grader on the JV cheerleading squad. She’s not fit to teach seventh grade girls how to use a tampon in health class, let alone be a sitting United States Senator.

    …and it’s not an ad hominem attack to say this if it’s TRUE.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Kirsten Gillibrand is a f—ing bimbo. She is the very archetype of the stupid blonde.
     
    Who graduated magna from Dartmouth, graduated from UCLA Law and passed the bar exam.


    Modern American life is not very taxing. Especially for people who grow up well-to-do--like Gllibrand--connect the dots and do as expected. Such people have to choose to--make an effort to--to have perspective and be realistic about the world. It's very easy for such people to be "clever sillies" and we have lots of them. With the female contingent thereof there's the extra emotion ladled on top.

    But it's not an "IQ" problem. It's a perspective, knowledge, reality--a turn of mind--problem.
  71. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    I clicked on your Bill Gates tweet and then went to his main twitter account. Admittedly I am being judgemental, but his wife has not held up well. I can’t believe she lets him post that picture of her so prominently for Bill’s 46 million followers to see.

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Bill Gates's wife looks like Buddy Hackett. So what? It doesn't make her a bad person!

    Bill Gates, however, is a baby boomer globalizer treasonite who pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Bill Gates supports the use of the H-1B visa scam to attack and undercut American STEM workers.
    , @MarkinLA
    For me, it actually says something good about Gates. Not that there is much good. It is kind of like Roger Federer and his wife. A guy that still stays with someone about 5 points lower than them on the looks scale when the guy has all the money and fame is a stand-up guy, at least in this area.
  72. Inspired by the women’s march?

    I can think of quite a number of words to describe my reaction to thousands of gray-haired grannies dressed up to look like pudenda. “Inspired” is not among them.

  73. @dearieme
    Pinot Noir? On of those over-sweet American wines, or a superb example from Burgundy or NZ? I think we should be told. Was it a patriotic wine?

    She should be FORCED to drink Taylor lake country red!!!!

  74. @bored identity
    Meanwhile, Occasional Cortex has decided that her private time ball-squeezing of some random, Paul Bunyan's gingerly betamax cousin should be also considered as a part of the Green New Deal :

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/ocasio%20boyfrienda.jpg?itok=QcTP3Tgx


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-15/twitter-bans-user-who-says-ocasio-cortez-placed-boyfriend-her-staff

    Congress-critters can do what they want …….and the white BF …..it’s the cunnilingus man ,black dudes don’t…white dudes do.

  75. @istevefan
    I clicked on your Bill Gates tweet and then went to his main twitter account. Admittedly I am being judgemental, but his wife has not held up well. I can't believe she lets him post that picture of her so prominently for Bill's 46 million followers to see.

    Bill Gates’s wife looks like Buddy Hackett. So what? It doesn’t make her a bad person!

    Bill Gates, however, is a baby boomer globalizer treasonite who pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Bill Gates supports the use of the H-1B visa scam to attack and undercut American STEM workers.

  76. @Charles Pewitt
    If I run for president in the 2020 GOP presidential primary against Trump, a 99 percent wealth tax on billionaires will be part of my platform.

    This 99 percent wealth tax on billionaires will be touted as a way to stop the billionaires from completely and totally destroying the United States with their pernicious influence on politics and policy.

    Bill Gates is a baby boomer globalizer who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Tweets from 2014:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/488001916337524736

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/464419578089467904

    I believe you might run; I’ve seen Presidential candidates less committed to self-promotion.

  77. @ChrisZ
    Arc, I think an article like this is meant by the Times to winnow the field, not endorse or help Gillibrand. Nobody named Kirsten is going to win a national election anyway. The NYT’s job now is to make its chosen candidate (Harris?) seem inevitable.

    But this story *will* resonate with the Dem coalition, legitimizing the emotional anguish of many of its members. I wonder whether that’s the point of the profile? Booker’s revelation that he’s a vegan equally makes him into a totem for some demographic in the fringes coalition, while disqualifying him as a practical matter for the presidency.

    By primary time, maybe each of the Dem candidates on the debate stage will stand as just such a totem for some segment of the coalition? When they all “unite” behind the pre-chosen candidate, that will symbolize, to the onlooker, the friendship among all the disparate segments of the coalition—the boozy white wine-ladies like Gillibrand, the (gay) black vegans like Booker, etc.—segments that (as Steve notes) otherwise have actual animosity towards each other.

    It will be like the pantheon of gods in Ancient Greece: each god was once been a distinct cult with its own exclusive followers, but enrolling them all in a divine “family” pacified religious conflict, and allowed the Greeks to get on with larger political goals.

    Brilliant comment! Someone get this man one of the coveted golden borders

  78. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    She leaned in, her voice husky, a little too much perfume, red wine and pepper jack cheese cubes.

    "He called me a prostitute. Me! A United States Senator!"

    The Senator paused to reflect.

    "America should be like a wine bar. Lots of varieties of wine, that anyone can try. And no closing time!" (snort)

    After rooting around in her giant handbag for a while, the Senator continued.

    "People don't think I can keep up with the young gals, but let me tell you I'll go margarita-for-margarita with Anicasio Cortelyou anytime, anywhere."

    The Senator produced a bent cigarette from her bag, triumphant.

    "Trump reminds me of my ex. he used to say, Gilly, don't drink so much, don't smoke it's bad for you. But he was banging the housekeeper!" (snort)

    "Hey! I lit the wrong end!"

    Ghost, Too funny for just the LOL button.

  79. @istevefan
    I clicked on your Bill Gates tweet and then went to his main twitter account. Admittedly I am being judgemental, but his wife has not held up well. I can't believe she lets him post that picture of her so prominently for Bill's 46 million followers to see.

    For me, it actually says something good about Gates. Not that there is much good. It is kind of like Roger Federer and his wife. A guy that still stays with someone about 5 points lower than them on the looks scale when the guy has all the money and fame is a stand-up guy, at least in this area.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Bill Gates' search for a wife was not superficial: see my anecdote about skydiving with Bill Gates and his girlfriend at the time. Gates insisted she jump out of an airplane with him and she countered that she'd only do it if another woman jumped out with her (which turned out to be my ex-underling's terrified wife).
  80. @MarkinLA
    For me, it actually says something good about Gates. Not that there is much good. It is kind of like Roger Federer and his wife. A guy that still stays with someone about 5 points lower than them on the looks scale when the guy has all the money and fame is a stand-up guy, at least in this area.

    Bill Gates’ search for a wife was not superficial: see my anecdote about skydiving with Bill Gates and his girlfriend at the time. Gates insisted she jump out of an airplane with him and she countered that she’d only do it if another woman jumped out with her (which turned out to be my ex-underling’s terrified wife).

  81. @AndrewR
    I didn't write that text you quoted, lol. My sentiments are closer to yours.

    Sorry about that! It’s happened a couple of times lately.

  82. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    The median age in Africa is about half the median age in North America. With the right investments, young Africans will shape the future of the entire world.

    Gates is wrong. Young Africans will shape Africa, and maybe the West if the silliness continues.

    But they aren’t going to shape “the entire world”. The Chinese–unaffected by this minoritarian totalitarianism we suffer under–won’t do any of this immigration crap and they’ll shape the world.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
    • Replies: @istevefan

    But they aren’t going to shape “the entire world”. The Chinese–unaffected by this minoritarian totalitarianism we suffer under–won’t do any of this immigration crap and they’ll shape the world.
     
    Somewhat related to your comment is something I routinely tell the know-it-all types who like to announce that the world is going to be mixed, and we will all be like Tiger Woods or something like that. I ask them what do they mean by "the world"? They look confused and repeat the world will be mixed, and then point out the changing demographics of the USA. I counter by asking them is that happening in China? Is it happening in Nigeria?

    Maybe once, after I pointed out that China will not be changed, has one of these folks ever realized that it's only him and his people who are scheduled to be transformed. China and Nigeria will look remarkably similar in 100 years as they do today.
  83. @bored identity
    Meanwhile, Occasional Cortex has decided that her private time ball-squeezing of some random, Paul Bunyan's gingerly betamax cousin should be also considered as a part of the Green New Deal :

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/ocasio%20boyfrienda.jpg?itok=QcTP3Tgx


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-15/twitter-bans-user-who-says-ocasio-cortez-placed-boyfriend-her-staff

    I wish you guys would stop poking fun at a Strong, Independent Woman of Color just to compensate for your deep-seated feelings of inadequacy. I happen to know that she was taking the oath of office in this photo, surrounded by her staff that Looks Like America. She was not–I repeat not–preparing to bitch-slap the photographer.

  84. I think you have to be a feminist or an old lady hunter to this Gillibrand is cool.

  85. @Dr. X
    Kirsten Gillibrand is a f---ing bimbo. She is the very archetype of the stupid blonde. She's got the mental capacity of a ninth-grader on the JV cheerleading squad. She's not fit to teach seventh grade girls how to use a tampon in health class, let alone be a sitting United States Senator.

    ...and it's not an ad hominem attack to say this if it's TRUE.

    Kirsten Gillibrand is a f—ing bimbo. She is the very archetype of the stupid blonde.

    Who graduated magna from Dartmouth, graduated from UCLA Law and passed the bar exam.

    Modern American life is not very taxing. Especially for people who grow up well-to-do–like Gllibrand–connect the dots and do as expected. Such people have to choose to–make an effort to–to have perspective and be realistic about the world. It’s very easy for such people to be “clever sillies” and we have lots of them. With the female contingent thereof there’s the extra emotion ladled on top.

    But it’s not an “IQ” problem. It’s a perspective, knowledge, reality–a turn of mind–problem.

  86. @ChrisZ
    Arc, I think an article like this is meant by the Times to winnow the field, not endorse or help Gillibrand. Nobody named Kirsten is going to win a national election anyway. The NYT’s job now is to make its chosen candidate (Harris?) seem inevitable.

    But this story *will* resonate with the Dem coalition, legitimizing the emotional anguish of many of its members. I wonder whether that’s the point of the profile? Booker’s revelation that he’s a vegan equally makes him into a totem for some demographic in the fringes coalition, while disqualifying him as a practical matter for the presidency.

    By primary time, maybe each of the Dem candidates on the debate stage will stand as just such a totem for some segment of the coalition? When they all “unite” behind the pre-chosen candidate, that will symbolize, to the onlooker, the friendship among all the disparate segments of the coalition—the boozy white wine-ladies like Gillibrand, the (gay) black vegans like Booker, etc.—segments that (as Steve notes) otherwise have actual animosity towards each other.

    It will be like the pantheon of gods in Ancient Greece: each god was once been a distinct cult with its own exclusive followers, but enrolling them all in a divine “family” pacified religious conflict, and allowed the Greeks to get on with larger political goals.

    The NYT’s job now is to make its chosen candidate (Harris?) seem inevitable

    I can see the “identity politics” (race politics) angle, but absent that, why would anyone want this woman? For president, that is.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    Hail, I have no firm answer to this; it just seems to me that Harris is the figure around whom the Leftist media is coalescing. Maybe that will change.

    However, I do think the nature of the presidency is changing. Since at least Obama, and maybe since Clinton, the U.S. President has been becoming less like the country’s chief executive officer, and more like its ceremonial leader. The executive stuff can be handled by a staff, really. But what people look for now in a President is someone who represents a happy, self-flattering image of the country—or at least of the segment of voters who put him in office. A kind of “royal” for a democracy.

    This may be the resolution of an old tension in the Presidency, which back in Washington’s day unnaturally combined the executive and ceremonial roles. But under the new logic of regarding the office as a mostly ceremonial one, you can see how Harris would be the Left’s ideal conception, which flatters its pretensions of tolerance, inclusivity, and transgression.

    So far, the ceremonial presidency is more of a development on the Left (which has always secretly pined for kingship). On the Right we still pay lip service to the idea of a president as a kind of national employee, who should meet certain qualifications, and whom the voters can hire and fire at will. The Right is certainly much less culturally invested in its presidents, and doesn’t moon over them in a personal way. Yet we’ve already gone far down the ceremonial path; it was Trump’s campaign that exposed how many “Rightist” politicians were empty, symbolic figureheads. Trump himself was elected (I think) largely on the “national employee” model, to get a specific job done, however unceremoniously. We’ll see if he’s the last of that kind.
  87. He essentially called her a prostitute. He was essentially correct. If she runs for Pres, she’ll be a prostitute to the fourth power.

  88. @eah
    OT

    https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1095098210727661571

    For all the crap that will hit the fan coming out of Africa there is much opportunity to be had in investing there….

  89. @AnotherDad

    The median age in Africa is about half the median age in North America. With the right investments, young Africans will shape the future of the entire world.
     
    Gates is wrong. Young Africans will shape Africa, and maybe the West if the silliness continues.

    But they aren't going to shape "the entire world". The Chinese--unaffected by this minoritarian totalitarianism we suffer under--won't do any of this immigration crap and they'll shape the world.

    But they aren’t going to shape “the entire world”. The Chinese–unaffected by this minoritarian totalitarianism we suffer under–won’t do any of this immigration crap and they’ll shape the world.

    Somewhat related to your comment is something I routinely tell the know-it-all types who like to announce that the world is going to be mixed, and we will all be like Tiger Woods or something like that. I ask them what do they mean by “the world”? They look confused and repeat the world will be mixed, and then point out the changing demographics of the USA. I counter by asking them is that happening in China? Is it happening in Nigeria?

    Maybe once, after I pointed out that China will not be changed, has one of these folks ever realized that it’s only him and his people who are scheduled to be transformed. China and Nigeria will look remarkably similar in 100 years as they do today.

  90. @Hail

    The NYT’s job now is to make its chosen candidate (Harris?) seem inevitable
     
    I can see the "identity politics" (race politics) angle, but absent that, why would anyone want this woman? For president, that is.

    Hail, I have no firm answer to this; it just seems to me that Harris is the figure around whom the Leftist media is coalescing. Maybe that will change.

    However, I do think the nature of the presidency is changing. Since at least Obama, and maybe since Clinton, the U.S. President has been becoming less like the country’s chief executive officer, and more like its ceremonial leader. The executive stuff can be handled by a staff, really. But what people look for now in a President is someone who represents a happy, self-flattering image of the country—or at least of the segment of voters who put him in office. A kind of “royal” for a democracy.

    This may be the resolution of an old tension in the Presidency, which back in Washington’s day unnaturally combined the executive and ceremonial roles. But under the new logic of regarding the office as a mostly ceremonial one, you can see how Harris would be the Left’s ideal conception, which flatters its pretensions of tolerance, inclusivity, and transgression.

    So far, the ceremonial presidency is more of a development on the Left (which has always secretly pined for kingship). On the Right we still pay lip service to the idea of a president as a kind of national employee, who should meet certain qualifications, and whom the voters can hire and fire at will. The Right is certainly much less culturally invested in its presidents, and doesn’t moon over them in a personal way. Yet we’ve already gone far down the ceremonial path; it was Trump’s campaign that exposed how many “Rightist” politicians were empty, symbolic figureheads. Trump himself was elected (I think) largely on the “national employee” model, to get a specific job done, however unceremoniously. We’ll see if he’s the last of that kind.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Corn
    It’d be a radical shift for our society but sometimes I wonder if we should have a parliamentary model of government like so many other democracies.

    Have a prime minister and let him and his majority party get sh— done while we have a nice nobody as President who invites winning sports teams to the White House and gives speeches ad nauseum about “who we are”.
  91. Gillibrand is another one who needs to shut up and pose nude.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  92. @Charles Pewitt
    Without looking up on the internet for the lyrics of The Girls Want To Be With The Girls I'll give remembered impressions of the song:

    I want to talk

    I'll bring the problems to you

    The girls say they're concerned

    Concerned about problems

    Hard logic

    Boys get lost

    Far reaching plans

    Abstract analysis

    Relationships

    Side to side

    Make up your mind

    I'm pretty sure I misremembered the song to a certain extent, but it's Friday.

    David Byrne was trying to get laid with some New York City baby boomer era ladies and they were driving him crazy, so he wrote a song about these brainwashed broads who ain't getting with the simple birds and the bees business, and they were making plans to put their crazy female baby boomer plans into action.

    These filthy White baby boomer broads are running amok and their malignant hate for just about everybody is now intensified by the fact that now nobody but senile billionaire Rupert Murdoch wants to bang them.

    All these baby boomer psychotic harpies that David Byrne was writing about ain't so succulent no more.

    These baby boomer succubus harpies are Hell bent on pushing mass immigration and globalization as a way to bring down the curtain on European Christendom.

    I think the drums in the song were somewhat martial to indicate the militancy of these nutcake baby boomer broads that Byrne was writing about.

    Pretty sure Byrne was gay, no?

  93. @ChrisZ
    Hail, I have no firm answer to this; it just seems to me that Harris is the figure around whom the Leftist media is coalescing. Maybe that will change.

    However, I do think the nature of the presidency is changing. Since at least Obama, and maybe since Clinton, the U.S. President has been becoming less like the country’s chief executive officer, and more like its ceremonial leader. The executive stuff can be handled by a staff, really. But what people look for now in a President is someone who represents a happy, self-flattering image of the country—or at least of the segment of voters who put him in office. A kind of “royal” for a democracy.

    This may be the resolution of an old tension in the Presidency, which back in Washington’s day unnaturally combined the executive and ceremonial roles. But under the new logic of regarding the office as a mostly ceremonial one, you can see how Harris would be the Left’s ideal conception, which flatters its pretensions of tolerance, inclusivity, and transgression.

    So far, the ceremonial presidency is more of a development on the Left (which has always secretly pined for kingship). On the Right we still pay lip service to the idea of a president as a kind of national employee, who should meet certain qualifications, and whom the voters can hire and fire at will. The Right is certainly much less culturally invested in its presidents, and doesn’t moon over them in a personal way. Yet we’ve already gone far down the ceremonial path; it was Trump’s campaign that exposed how many “Rightist” politicians were empty, symbolic figureheads. Trump himself was elected (I think) largely on the “national employee” model, to get a specific job done, however unceremoniously. We’ll see if he’s the last of that kind.

    It’d be a radical shift for our society but sometimes I wonder if we should have a parliamentary model of government like so many other democracies.

    Have a prime minister and let him and his majority party get sh— done while we have a nice nobody as President who invites winning sports teams to the White House and gives speeches ad nauseum about “who we are”.

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
Are elite university admissions based on meritocracy and diversity as claimed?
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
The evidence is clear — but often ignored
The sources of America’s immigration problems—and a possible solution