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Commenter Alec Leamas writes:
The working theory is that the students are of a generation raised by helicopter in a therapeutic culture – in shorthand, they lack the very basic coping skills that most everyone in generations previous developed as of course. Rather than “walking off” a skinned knee or saying “sticks and stones” in response to a bully’s insult, they’re acculturated to appeal to authority for attention, protection, and justice (revenge).
At the same time, overt racial and other discrimination and expressions thereof having receded, a need arose to find racial or sexist offense in innocuous statements and neutral acts for the Left to maintain fuel for its resentment politics – see, for example, the theories of “privilege” and “micro-agressions.” (Putting those words in quotes is likely an expression of my “privilege” while also serving as a “micro-agression.”)
Because they’ve been so acculturated to therapy and therapeutic talk, the political proselytizing by the Left works as a sort of reverse therapy by making them less psychologically stable. Psychological therapy is supposed to make one less sensitive to irrational fears and better able to process real traumas, but these young people have been made more sensitive to the vagaries of ordinary life and less able to process perceived traumas. They then appeal to authority to eliminate those things that they unreasonably perceive as threats.
The “safe space” gambit I have understood to be a legal gambit pioneered by the feminists. My understanding is that threats to student safety require a certain prescribed response under Title IX, and therefore casting disagreement and a desire to censor opinions and speakers they don’t like as “threats to safety” precipitate the prescribed responses (at least in an abundance of legal caution to avoid sanctions up to and including loss of Federal funding). So, in effect, the feminists figured out that they could use language about “safety” to hold the gun of Federal funding to the head of the University to extort from it administrative action and censoring that they would not be able to accomplish by honest means.
For example, the student chapter of the Traditional Nice Guys invites a speaker who believes that women who want to bear children should get married (to men!) before the age of 25 in order to assure that they’ll have relatively easy, safe pregnancies. The speaker cites medical literature about women’s years of peak fertility, economic studies about the stability of two parent families, longitudinal studies about the outcomes of children of intact families, and the rest – the sort of thing from which intellectuals and academics form arguments. The campus feminists obviously don’t want this sort of thing said in public – not because it’s untrue, but rather because their worldview has a particular weakness in dealing with matters which are true. So they get together and claim that the content of the speech makes them feel unsafe insofar as they’re women on campus and the obvious implication of the speaker’s comments is that they don’t belong on campus but rather at home and someone might hear the speaker and use violence to make them get married and pregnant and off campus.
To add some spice, the Lesbians interpret the exhortation to marry men as “othering” and “marginalization” which is a form of “erasure” of them and their experiences and a form of “verbal violence” every bit as real violence as a baseball bat to the skull while being called a dyke.
Of course this is total and complete nonsense, however because the complaint is about “safety” and “violence” rather than disagreement, the University has to do something. The easiest thing is to avoid the whole affair by rescinding the invitation to the speaker.
Second to that is to require the inviting student organization to provide from its funds the cost of additional security or to claim that anticipated protests will exceed the capacity of the venue, thereby leaving the event without the planned venue.
Alec Leamas also doubts that the Left fratricide on campus is weakening the Left:
No, I think what we’re seeing are show trials of the reigning Trotskyites by emergent Stalinists. The Leftists in administration are being put on trial for not being pure enough, not being sufficiently enthusiastic in their Leftism, and not abridging the rights of the enemy with the requisite alacrity and prejudice. Once accused, denial is proof of guilt, and admission is also proof of guilt.
We’d like to think that the Left is somehow losing power in this transaction, when the ultimate outcome will be replacing the sort of comfortable hard Left academic ministerial types with more fervent activists and additional administrative commissars to oversee academic and campus affairs. The old guard was constrained – at least in a perfunctory way – with maintaining a facade of academic freedom, free inquiry, and conformity with laws and conventions guaranteeing free thought and expression. Their replacements will not be – their only allegiance is to the cause.
Great comment, still the Stalinists’ thought processes are making them anxious and depressed, as well as the general population.
Point it out to them enough times and they’ll shut up. Point it out to them in a persuasive manner and they’ll switch sides.
Point it out to everyone else and no-one will aspire to be like them.
Well said. I always wince when I read some supposed smartie-pants of the National Review sort who thinks he’s clever mocking college kids as being these fragile special flowers who can’t bear the vicissitudes of ordinary life. Far from it.
SJW’s say they feel “unsafe” for the same reason cops say “Stop Resisting” when they are pounding the hell out of somebody with their t-bar. Its not a statement about their actual feelings of safety, its a legal claim. A claim that, in fact, works in the current environment (i.e. as long as they have the backing of the Obama DoEd and DoJ).
Or, hopefully, Republicans will turn off the funding for academia that does nothing but hate them.
and this is coming from the elite, it's top down -
Its never going to stop because it benefits the global elite.
Younger people still walk off skinned knees and face all kinds of routine humiliations and internal emotional issues that the world doesn’t care about.
Racial politics and resentment politics seem to have gotten much worse, but this explanation doesn’t fit.
I just don’t get these arguments. The particular tactics being used today (i.e. the whole ‘safe space,’ microaggressions, etc) may be different, but the general tone and general attitude and activities themselves on colleges seems like they haven’t changed in the last 60 years. Each time one of these events happen, I hope the administration will tell the mob ‘Shut up! You are wrong!’ but they never do.
I just don’t see what’s happening today as being any different than has happened, periodically, for my entire life-which are essentially repeats of the ’60′s riots.
Slightly off topic, but it really ties into why the Republican Party/nominating process is in such a shambles. Republicans are dominating state level politics: they control the Senate and House (still?). Yet nothing ever changes. If there is a silent majority, that silent majority really does think ‘Shut up! You are wrong!’ (about the mob in Missouri, about Bruce Jenner, about gay marriage, about women at ranger school, about affirmative action, about international affairs, etc etc etc). But people in power-in spite of being in power, never say it. So why vote the status quo?
I don’t think people actually like Trump or Carson. They just hate the (democratic) alternative, and are tired of the irrelevance of the (Republican) alternative.
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David Thompson, the British blogger ( http://davidthompson.typepad.com/), refers to campus SJW’s as ‘Mao-lings’ for their ‘Cultural Revolution’ – type tactics.
They certainly don’t seem to be weakening their hold over College discourse but rather strengthening it.
Republicans are anti-education – that’s what you’ll hear-
and this is coming from the elite, it’s top down -
Its never going to stop because it benefits the global elite.
>SJW’s say they feel “unsafe” for the same reason cops say “Stop Resisting” when they are pounding the hell out of somebody with their t-bar. Its not a statement about their actual feelings of safety, its a legal claim.
Brilliant summary. This should be “tweeted” far and wide because its a meme-warfare howitzer shell. This is up there with cuckservative imo.
We should promote this analysis as much as we can. But in honesty I have to wonder if the SJWs are really smart enough for that. Isn’t the occam’s razor explanation that these people are just pathetic damaged weirdos and the university administrators agree with them politically and don’t want the traditional nice guys club to speak on campus anyway?
>Isn’t the occam’s razor explanation that these people are just pathetic damaged weirdos and the university administrators agree with them politically and don’t want the traditional nice guys club to speak on campus anyway?
Perhaps but I think we are going to see more and more Good Liberal Administrators get purged by the hardline black supremacists and SJWs.
Putting the opposition on the defensive by claiming that a mere presentation of their arguments might push someone to suicide is actually brilliantly cynical. Keeping conservatives - or increasingly, merely old-fashioned liberals - walking on eggshells and afraid to make a forceful argument is a way of winning before the game has even started.
This has nothing to do with helicopter parenting or therapeutic culture. The group causing the most trouble at the moment (blacks) comes from a culture not particularly known for either. White males get helicopter parented nowadays just as much as females but they have been entirely absent from the show.
Great comments, Ezra and Mr. Leamas! Keep writing comments.
It’s not Stalinists and Trotskyites, though. Both of them were equally tough. It’s Bolsheviks vs. Kerensky Government, the callous vs. the sensitives. A replay of the 60′s, actually, when administrators were similarly effeminate.
Stalin proved that rabid impulses were neither fatal to him nor abated by the passage of time. That did not make Stalin tough. It made him merely dangerous. The rabid dog is not tougher, just more dangerous.
If Stalin were tough he would not have licked Hitler's boots. And if Trotsky were tough he would not have passively acquiesced to the 'will of the Party'.
But you misunderstanding is instructive. You get the administrators perfidy. You miss the mark on the Bolsheviks.
Evil has its superficial appeal. Look at it for what it is, and then turn away. Look and turn away, or find yourself its servant. Non tertium datur.
“Rather than “walking off” a skinned knee”: be fair, we’d often wash it with spit first.
The Republicans? You must realize that this can’t possibly happen? It’s not just that Republicans are stupid; it’s that the system that prevents that sort of thing.
Training girls to run to administrators for safety is about training them to view government a replacement for a Man. This makes single motherhood a rational choice and she marries government thereby assuring a lifetime of leftist votes.
The same happens with the negro males (and effeminate or gay males) who are encouraged to see the KKK in every shadow with only government standing between them and a noose. The negroes who had fathers, a diminishing number to be sure, are thereby also encouraged to view government as savior and protector.
want to be a mother."Needless to say, the interviewer did not reply with "don't you think unwed motherhood might be harmful for the child?" In today's America, what feminists want trumps what children need.
Girls, because they lack physical strength and because no one takes them seriously, have always appealed to government and outside authorities for power.
“turn off the funding for academia”: quite. Dissolution of the Monasteries.
I don’t think helicopter parenting has much to do with the cry for “safe spaces” – certainly nothing causal.
Let the hate parade commence.
The thing to be hoped is that the psychologically unstable who are emergent now will destroy the more capable, managerial types.
Most college students are non-residential, and I think even more should be. If college students commute from home, there is less scope for leftists to indoctrinate and regulate them. It would also mostly solve the college rape problem. Parents with daughters can regulate their drinking and who enters their homes and for how long.
Yes, The weaklings here are the white adults who refuse to stand up for our civilization and children.
T. Greer, in the scholar’s stage, reviews a paper by sociologists Bradley Campbell and Jason Manning titled “Micro-aggression and Moral Cultures” and makes some good points.
http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com.br/2015/09/honor-dignity-victimhood-and-death-of.html
Key part:
In a world where anyone is to be destroyed for saying the mildest criticism of homos, this kind of PC craziness is to be expected.
We can’t even trust the media.
It took citizen journalists to take down the UVA rape hoax since the media establishment wouldn’t do it.
In fact, saying – ‘I feel unsafe’ loudly several times is the last step before firing a weapon in legal self-defense.
Paradoxically, the culture of (inflated)self-esteem leads to a culture of self-pity.
Any evidence that oneself is not great must be banished because it undermines one’s highfalutin self-esteem. Those who claim to be the most badass are also the most fragile.
US now has a whole generation of Kim Jong-Uns.
Pampered tyrants pretending to fight global oppression.
Jews lead the way, homos are most hysterical,blacks are most thuggish.
We’d like to think that the Left is somehow losing power in this transaction
Actually, there are a lot of sheltered SWPL progeny whose families talked left and walked right, who naively assumed that in college they would be welcomed into the rainbow coalition as “not one of those pickup truck riding bigots” and are now finding their dreams in tatters.
Status-conscious, educated, industrious SWPLs aren’t going to cast their lot with the Left if the best they can hope for is being some low-level operative in an American ANC.
The Right should be 1) creating chaos among all Left front groups and media by egging them on to make their staffs and management reflect the prog coalition (44% minority), thereby making them as useless as the DC Metro or Freddie Mac, and 2) actively recruiting young SWPLs who are disillusioned by seeing reality conflict with their bedtime stories and who can give us a dose of that old time Rockefeller Republican competence and work ethic.
Is that a trade-off you and yours are willing to make?
Interesting, and probably true, but I not sure that political theorizing can fully explain this stuff. I think Paul Graham’s essay on nerds has been posted here before, but it’s worth revisiting again. The fundamental problem is that high school and college kids have too much time and too few real responsibilities. Only a small fraction of students are really cut out to be intellectuals, but we force the rest to spend many years in school, wasting time and money, before they can move on to real life. A lot of times it messes with their heads.
Quote:
http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html
I’m afraid Alec Leamas is right, but this brings up the question of whether the institutions themselves will benefit from being taken over by Maoist minorities. Somehow I doubt it. I foresee something like the trajectory of Detroit for colleges that cave in to the demands.
Who would have predicted white flight from colleges ten years ago? Not many, but I’m fairly certain a lot of white parents are having second thoughts about sending their kids off to state U right about now. Distance learning is starting to look more appealing every day.
Be sure not to call any of these people ‘bossy’.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/navy-makes-unusual-pick-submarine-sponsor-facebook-exec-35134166
Mulatto to the rescue.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Michael+Middleton&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAmoVChMI5K-b9c2NyQIVgzEmCh3JBwlL&biw=1280&bih=599#tbm=isch&q=Michael+Middleton+missori
Very well done, but I don’t think it goes far enough, maybe because Mr. Leamas is age-challenged (i.e., young).
Few people remember that one of the worst achievements of the 1960s (yes, I know it happened in the ’70s, just calling the decade by its popular name) was the erasure of “boundaries.” As any mature adult knows, drawing boundaries is essential – for individual functioning, and for groups to get along.
Jonathan Haidt “Where microaggressions really come from: A sociological account”
… We’re beginning a second transition of moral cultures. The first major transition happened in the 18th and 19th centuries when most Western societies moved away from cultures of honor (where people must earn honor and must therefore avenge insults on their own) to cultures of dignity in which people are assumed to have dignity and don’t need to earn it. They foreswear violence, turn to courts or administrative bodies to respond to major transgressions, and for minor transgressions they either ignore them or attempt to resolve them by social means. There’s no more dueling.
Campbell and Manning describe how this culture of dignity is now giving way to a new culture of victimhood in which people are encouraged to respond to even the slightest unintentional offense, as in an honor culture. But they must not obtain redress on their own; they must appeal for help to powerful others or administrative bodies, to whom they must make the case that they have been victimized. It is the very presence of such administrative bodies, within a culture that is highly egalitarian and diverse (i.e., many college campuses) that gives rise to intense efforts to identify oneself as a fragile and aggrieved victim. This is why we have seen the recent explosion of concerns about microaggressions, combined with demands for trigger warnings and safe spaces, that Greg Lukianoff and I wrote about in The Coddling of the American Mind.
… The key idea is that the new moral culture of victimhood fosters “moral dependence” and an atrophying of the ability to handle small interpersonal matters on one’s own. At the same time that it weakens individuals, it creates a society of constant and intense moral conflict as people compete for status as victims or as defenders of victims.”
http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-come-from/
Is the left weakened by this? We’ll see. Most normal, sane liberals see through these ridiculous protests. Whether this leads to a rightward societal shift is another thing.
But we can say that individual liberals and weak chucks are being forced out for not being sufficiently sensitive to the shifting sands of the acceptable liberal paradigm. This I’m not sad of.
Did you catch this clip of a safe space from racism?
tl;dr Asian woman complains about racist blacks and everybody in the space tells her blacks can’t be racist.
Also it’s from Claremont McKenna
Who would have predicted white flight from colleges ten years ago? Not many, but I'm fairly certain a lot of white parents are having second thoughts about sending their kids off to state U right about now. Distance learning is starting to look more appealing every day.
Internet babbling. If you want to do anything in a variety of professions in Missouri, you go to Mizzou. “White people care a lot about their kids’ education.” True. And white people have NO idea what is hitting them. None at all.
BTW, if going to the local college were really such a sure thing for being in the professions, why do entry level jobs for college grads pay less than driving a truck? And why so many H1-Bs from whatever fake technical college in Bangalore working for tech companies?
The closest you can get to a sure thing these days is a technical degree combined with industry certification. And more and more people are electing to pursue both outside the bloated, politically compromised university system. Have kids get a technical degree in a field they like first, and if they excel they can take continuing education to move up the ladder. Sure beats having a useless BA that qualifies you for little more than working at Starbucks or Barnes and Noble for $10/hr.
It appears to be lighter-skinned African Americans and those who find themselves on campuses in which they are academically over their heads, who are most sensitive. Many of the former, I am guessing, see it as opportunity to emerge into the political limelight as leaders, while the latter are honestly hurting.
Excellent point. Unfortunately, there seems to a large number of conservatives who don’t really want to fight or face reality, so they’re always trying to “concern troll” the left or explain the Left’s actions in the most benign way possible. yeah, these Sjw’s are just ‘Spoiled kids’. Harry Reid is just dumb, the Communists/socialists are just “confused”.
Alex Leamas, my comments are pedestrian, yours soar. Nicely stated.
Let’s not forget that Yale is a very selective college, so they rejected lots of kids to pick these Red Guards, the same way Mizzou bend over backwards to get the black players who are protesting.
These are features of the system, not bugs and the goal is to silence any threats to liberal ideology both in education and, far more importantly, in research.
We are all caregivers to black society, 24/7. And our #1 obligation, in addition to paying the bills, is to protect their fragile psyches from outward manifestations of white contempt. This is why James Watson had to be exiled.
This is good news, not bad.
If American Universities, particularly the non-STEM parts become full of Red Guards fewer people will go to them.
Once the tuition money and endowments dry up they’ll be gone (at the very least they’ll be hiring fewer lefty grad students as profs).
And future censuses will show a fall in the populations of the Berkeleys and Ann Arbours of the country.
In the meantime vocational schools will see their enrollments rise (as they should), as will more Hillsdale-y and Liberty Universities.
People do react to incentives and disincentives.
The madness at Yale deepens; two hundred students marched on the president’s house at midnight with a revised list of demands:
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/13/students-submit-new-demands-to-salovey/
The expression on Salovey’s face makes me think of a man who knows he is moments away from the firing squad.
Comparisons to the Cultural Revolution are apt, but there’s something eerie in the spontaneity of the whole thing–I mean, it’s possible that Mizzou, Yale and CMC were brought about through careful central coordination, but somehow I think unlikely. An instructive comparison might be to mass hysteria, amplified in this case by the power of social media:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_hysteria
Where and when it ends, I don’t know.
Also dumb stuff like renaming Calhoun Hall, naming the new residence halls after POC, putting up a sculpture as penance for Yale being on Indian land, abolishing the title of "master", i.e., the usual nonsense. I like the part where they moan about sacrificing their health and their grades to come up with these demands.
Probably the only think that will happen -- if anything -- is that the Christakis couple will be fired and enrolled in a re-education camp.
Why in the world can this not be flipped to put these knuckleheads on the defensive? The minute they congregate, call the cops and have them sanctioned for invading YOUR “safe space”. Video these rants and have the speakers sanctioned for hate speech.
Since this is ALL politics one side will ALWAYS have a gripe about the other. Don’t let these mal-informed CHILDREN run the show.
If the administrators are too whimpy to handle the duties, and I think most have seen they are simply either in the cheering section themselves or too metrosexual to even raise an argument, we as tax payers MUST.
Folks can ALWAYS manufacture something to be angry about and it works both ways.
It is past time to START fighting fire with fire.
I liked Mr Leamas’ attempt at a synthesis but I am not sure if it really works, and I am sure that the second part is wrong.
In that second part the argument is made that this is simply Stalinists attempting to cleanse Trotskyites. IOW, new order progressives removing old order progressives. I don’t think that works because I don’t think there would be demands for resignations, etc. if the people involved were POC. True, the people involved are, in some cases, women, but they are white.
On the other hand the ideological shift makes some sense, and goes like this:
a) Title IX (and similar) demands gender equality.
b) Gender equality cannot be achieved if women (call it, a class of humans) feel “threatened”, “oppressed” etc. by some other class(es) of humans.
c) So we get “safe spaces”, special departments, rape accusations believed at the drop of a hat, Star Chamber proceedings including expulsions for sexual assault accusations, suspension of ordinary rule of law for the sake of non-compliance with Title IX, etc. etc. etc.
d) What’s happening right now is that this entire conceptual universe has been coopted by Persons of Color.
Why I don’t think it will work:
1) The Title IX Mattress Girl types are after all the children of parents who are paying their tuition. I would bet that most of these POC students (who in all likelihood are a distinct minority) are on diversity scholarships of one kind or another. This doesn’t mean they aren’t bright, it means that they probably aren’t paying for their education.
2) Because 50% of the faculty, staff, and student body in any school will share the same gender, so accusations of non-representation will not fly when these concepts are applied to women. On the other hand, when used by POC, there is an automatic demand for reconstituting faculty, staff, student body, and curriculum on racial, ethnic, sexual performance lines.
3) I can imagine a lot of young co-eds going to a “take back the night” rally or going on a “slut walk”. It gives them a chance to dress up sexy for a political purpose, and maybe have a couple of beers with some hot looking guys. However, the majority of the people involved in these kinds of protests seem to be terminal lecturer types from Occupy Wall Street, not good looking, not sexy, and not fun. The Redditt clip of the young Asian lesbian who wants to have sex with women from different continents and by the way black people can be racist too is just about the most boring clip I have ever seen. How can anyone even attend such a rally?
I don’t really know how this will shake out but I expect the fever will subside before the Christmas holidays. It’s just amazingly stupid and I feel sorry for anyone who was too timid to leave academia and has to suck up to this sh*t on a daily basis.
I’m sure all this publicity is just going to do wonders for Mizzou’s enrollment numbers next fall.
Seriously though, it’s time to cut off the public education system, from K-12 to college and beyond, from its sources of funding and legitimacy. Every parent should pull their children out of public education as soon as possible, and should not by any means pay them any money.
The culture also needs to get it out of its collective head that college is a sure path to success and prosperity. That hasn’t actually been true for several years now, especially since grade inflation and degree inflation have rendered college education basically worthless in many respects. A majority of college students today cannot really benefit from a higher education and have no business being there, gumming up the works for the top few percentage points of people who actually ought to be engineers, jurists, and professional scholars. Our society is facing a disjunctive decision here: Either a college degree has to mean something again (i.e., the possession of one has to guarantee that the bearer has met the highest standards of intellectual excellence) or it needs to stop being awarded, touted, and pursued.
The sub-prime bubble in housing blew up relatively quickly and took a good portion of the global economy with it, but the sub-prime bubble in education has been brewing for forty years, is many times bigger, and much more multifaceted. If the current generation of student protesters are successful in their demands for debt forgiveness or free education, not only will the financial system implode, but the whole transmission mechanism from childhood to productive adulthood (which is currently embodied, however dubiously, by multiple years of public “education”) will be irreparably broken. That would certainly be a good thing in the long run. I would love to see a return to apprenticeships, trade schools, guild systems, and board certifications for most professions currently requiring a degree, while colleges and universities can revert to their natural role as repositories of the highest intellectual traditions presided over by incurable dons, catering to the uniquely talented or the wealthy. However, the short-term pain will be immense.
Nevertheless, it’s all inevitable, and all deserved, so we might as well get on with it.
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/13/students-submit-new-demands-to-salovey/
The expression on Salovey's face makes me think of a man who knows he is moments away from the firing squad.
Comparisons to the Cultural Revolution are apt, but there's something eerie in the spontaneity of the whole thing--I mean, it's possible that Mizzou, Yale and CMC were brought about through careful central coordination, but somehow I think unlikely. An instructive comparison might be to mass hysteria, amplified in this case by the power of social media:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_hysteria
Where and when it ends, I don't know.
Here’s a more direct listing of the Yale students demands: It basically comes down to money, and firing Mr and Mrs Christakis.
Also dumb stuff like renaming Calhoun Hall, naming the new residence halls after POC, putting up a sculpture as penance for Yale being on Indian land, abolishing the title of “master”, i.e., the usual nonsense. I like the part where they moan about sacrificing their health and their grades to come up with these demands.
Probably the only think that will happen — if anything — is that the Christakis couple will be fired and enrolled in a re-education camp.
Here's hoping.
Since when did any but a negligible percentage of young blacks have helicopter parents? The “students” leading these “protests” are overwhelmingly “of color” and they do not come from “helicopter” households.
Excellent point. I disavow respectability, and operate in purely racial terms because whites are the only ones who care about facts or logic. Get all the whites together on the same page of collective interests. Only then can we hash out petty issues like policy.
Brilliant summary. This should be "tweeted" far and wide because its a meme-warfare howitzer shell. This is up there with cuckservative imo.
We should promote this analysis as much as we can. But in honesty I have to wonder if the SJWs are really smart enough for that. Isn't the occam's razor explanation that these people are just pathetic damaged weirdos and the university administrators agree with them politically and don't want the traditional nice guys club to speak on campus anyway?
Has anyone actually believed SJW claims of “feeling unsafe”? It’s always been clear that “I feel unsafe” is just a politically convenient way of silencing critics.
>Isn’t the occam’s razor explanation that these people are just pathetic damaged weirdos and the university administrators agree with them politically and don’t want the traditional nice guys club to speak on campus anyway?
Perhaps but I think we are going to see more and more Good Liberal Administrators get purged by the hardline black supremacists and SJWs.
The same happens with the negro males (and effeminate or gay males) who are encouraged to see the KKK in every shadow with only government standing between them and a noose. The negroes who had fathers, a diminishing number to be sure, are thereby also encouraged to view government as savior and protector.
Yesterday I saw Jennifer Lawrence (the A-list film star worth almost nine figures complaining that she doesn’t make as much as some male A-list film stars) saying on GMA “I’m not sure I want to get married but I definitely
want to be a mother.”
Needless to say, the interviewer did not reply with “don’t you think unwed motherhood might be harmful for the child?” In today’s America, what feminists want trumps what children need.
Someone got into the act by spray painting a swastika at Bowie State, a historically black college in Prince George’s County, Maryland. It appears the swastika has been taken away from the Jews as something now for blacks to be especially upset at seeing. It used to be that nooses, or even lynching, evoked for me no images beyond those that might be at home in an episode of Bonanza, but a dozen years ago or so I learned that I’m supposed to think of racial strife. Black rainbows will be due for an appearance at some point.
FAUX HATE CRIME COMMITTED BY A BLACK STUDENT.
All problems eventually lead to disparate impact.
Actually, there are a lot of sheltered SWPL progeny whose families talked left and walked right, who naively assumed that in college they would be welcomed into the rainbow coalition as "not one of those pickup truck riding bigots" and are now finding their dreams in tatters.
Status-conscious, educated, industrious SWPLs aren't going to cast their lot with the Left if the best they can hope for is being some low-level operative in an American ANC.
The Right should be 1) creating chaos among all Left front groups and media by egging them on to make their staffs and management reflect the prog coalition (44% minority), thereby making them as useless as the DC Metro or Freddie Mac, and 2) actively recruiting young SWPLs who are disillusioned by seeing reality conflict with their bedtime stories and who can give us a dose of that old time Rockefeller Republican competence and work ethic.
Speaking as one of the disillusioned SWPLs in question, I’m willing to defect, but only if you’re willing to jettison the Rand/Hayek/Rothbard libertarians and the corrupt, Private-Everything-Because-Markets! crowd from your coalition. No more talk of entitlement privatization. No more support for trade agreements that export jobs. No more H1-B visa tsunami. No more corporate profits uber alles. No more attempts to make “caveat emptor” the governing principle of society.
Is that a trade-off you and yours are willing to make?
I'm not suggesting any of these things are the sole and complete answer, but they are some very simple and readily available ways to get started in the right direction.
I was an avid supporter of Ron Paul during the last two election cycles, but I have changed a great deal in my beliefs, and I think society has changed even more profoundly than I have. I think libertarianism is the first step in red-pilling. I don't see it remaining a viable political entity as the US splinters more among ethnic, gender and class lines.
Also dumb stuff like renaming Calhoun Hall, naming the new residence halls after POC, putting up a sculpture as penance for Yale being on Indian land, abolishing the title of "master", i.e., the usual nonsense. I like the part where they moan about sacrificing their health and their grades to come up with these demands.
Probably the only think that will happen -- if anything -- is that the Christakis couple will be fired and enrolled in a re-education camp.
Thanks. Agreed that the list is nothing terribly groundbreaking compared to the puerile ideas that have already been batted around. Marching on the president’s house at midnight, of course, is a pure assertion of power, and a fairly chilling one at that.
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More college freakout, now the yellow version.
Victim Envy or Victim Gap. Something must be done.
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/11/u-of-m-asian-american-students-protest-for-equity/75615586/
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/10/acclaimed-prof-to-leave-yale/
http://ris-systech2.its.yale.edu/newsletter/wgss/vol4issue1/nakamura.html
LOL
If American Universities, particularly the non-STEM parts become full of Red Guards fewer people will go to them.
Once the tuition money and endowments dry up they'll be gone (at the very least they'll be hiring fewer lefty grad students as profs).
And future censuses will show a fall in the populations of the Berkeleys and Ann Arbours of the country.
In the meantime vocational schools will see their enrollments rise (as they should), as will more Hillsdale-y and Liberty Universities.
People do react to incentives and disincentives.
You mentioned Berkeley the city. UC-Berkeley the school was one of the earliest afflicted by chronic student protest. My understanding (readers, please correct me if I’m wrong) is that the university at Berkeley has changed from being about 30% STEM in the 1970s to being over 80% STEM today (and in the process has gotten a lot more Asian). There doesn’t seem to be a lot of student protest news out of there lately.
I think you're right - there hasn't been much spontaneous protest since the Rosebud riots. Asian proportion was nearing 40% even then.
nobody cares about the feelings of Betas, Incels, etc.. Thus this whole victimhood thing is a joke as it only takes into account the seldom cases where social winners loose from time to time. It is a bit like Homer wrote his story about Achill who died and everybody was sad, while nobody cares about the suffering and death of weaklings. I think this is a very human thing to do. There is only one thing humans love more than winners: this is winners who have to cope with small adversities
Also dumb stuff like renaming Calhoun Hall, naming the new residence halls after POC, putting up a sculpture as penance for Yale being on Indian land, abolishing the title of "master", i.e., the usual nonsense. I like the part where they moan about sacrificing their health and their grades to come up with these demands.
Probably the only think that will happen -- if anything -- is that the Christakis couple will be fired and enrolled in a re-education camp.
Comments in Yale Daily News running strongly against any sort of capitulation. Again, I think SJWism is coming to be seen as too common for the Ivies.
Here’s hoping.
American Blacks, as a population, are hopelessly illiterate, disorganized, and pathetic. A good chuck of them is in jail. Like the Muslims in Europe, Blacks in America have exactly as much power as the dominant culture allows them to have.
“I’m sure all this publicity is just going to do wonders for Mizzou’s enrollment numbers next fall.”
It will do very little to enrollment. The basic economics of college are:
1) college degree is necessary for a good job
2) State colleges are preferred (I’m of course referring to people who aren’t able to go Ivys or high tier colleges) over the alternatives: private colleges, community colleges, state local colleges, and so on.
3) In State tuition is dramatically cheaper than out of state tuition. So switching from Missouri to, say, Iowa, or Nebraska, or Kansas, for a Missouri resident, would roughly double the cost of a degree.
The disadvantages of switching to a different school (higher tuition for all other choices save community colleges, lower prestige for community colleges) will guarantee that very few people will change their college plans over what’s going on.
The one exception would be graduate programs. But while Missouri may lose a few responsible graduate students (engineering, business and law, level headed humanities) it will probably gain the same number of political activist graduate students. So probably not much of a change in either direction.
anonymousse
The PUA culture among Millennial men offers an interesting contrast to this pathological sensitivity. It emphasizes hardening yourself emotionally by approaching one woman after another until you can master your approach anxiety and shrug off rejection without feeling upset about it.
I don’t defend pickup artists and the wannabes as moral exemplars, obviously. But they display sterner stuff in their character than many of their contemporaries on college campuses, and they do demonstrate the American ethic of self-improvement and perseverance in the face of adversity.
Let the hate parade commence.
I agree. I think the previous generation’s pathological weakness is to blame.
These kids got a taste of power. Students at colleges all over the country have discovered—largely independently—that if they push their administrators, the administrators will roll over. No one is stopping them, and they like it.
It feels good to destroy things when one is young and callow. When a person believes his actions are moral—indeed, imperative in the case of stopping “racism”, since it’s the worst thing in the world—he’ll gleefully destroy anything in service of that goal. Any checks on his impulses can be disregarded—he’s serving a higher good.
These nerdy kids are finally discovering what every non-wimp has known all along: it feels great to be a bully. That’s why people do it. Pushing weaker people around, bending them to you will… It rules! Doing it to an old white guy with a lot of money has to be especially sweet for a teenage black chick—can you imagine? The fact that preventing this sort of thing is part of the administrator’s job goes unmentioned.
The real question is: why aren’t the administrators stopping these little monsters? Is it youth-worship in our culture, particularly among Steve’s generation? Some belief in adolescents’ ideological purity: “a child shall lead them” and all that? Fear of being call “racist”? Worries about a repeat of that cop-spraying-tear gas scene from the Occupy days?
Would you really describe most Black students at Mizzou as being nerds?
As a parent of a high school junior we’ve been researching colleges all over the nation. Universities are making it easier on us by removing themselves from contention. I’m glad to see my son’s current top pick is pushing back: http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-adult-on-campus-1447287400.
Also dumb stuff like renaming Calhoun Hall, naming the new residence halls after POC, putting up a sculpture as penance for Yale being on Indian land, abolishing the title of "master", i.e., the usual nonsense. I like the part where they moan about sacrificing their health and their grades to come up with these demands.
Probably the only think that will happen -- if anything -- is that the Christakis couple will be fired and enrolled in a re-education camp.
Lol now we’ll see what’s what. If a gang of little cretins can bully around the president of Yale (who has got to be a somebody), then the lunatics have truly taken over the asylum. But Salovey might retaliate.
Brilliant summary. This should be "tweeted" far and wide because its a meme-warfare howitzer shell. This is up there with cuckservative imo.
We should promote this analysis as much as we can. But in honesty I have to wonder if the SJWs are really smart enough for that. Isn't the occam's razor explanation that these people are just pathetic damaged weirdos and the university administrators agree with them politically and don't want the traditional nice guys club to speak on campus anyway?
Right. They’re not sensitive little snowflakes who can’t handle drama. If they were, they’d keep their heads low and not solicit any. Clearly that’s not happening.
Putting the opposition on the defensive by claiming that a mere presentation of their arguments might push someone to suicide is actually brilliantly cynical. Keeping conservatives – or increasingly, merely old-fashioned liberals – walking on eggshells and afraid to make a forceful argument is a way of winning before the game has even started.
That was theft, though.
Better comment by Alec Leamas is on Street Carnage story under “Move Over Hate Facts Introducing Hate Science.” Best laugh I’ve had in a while.
Here's hoping.
One sure way for risk averse administrators not to get run over by the SJW train is to run ahead of the locomotive. Look for them to give into all of the SJW demands and add a few of their own touches. Maybe Yale can be renamed to Massasoit University or something.
It's not Stalinists and Trotskyites, though. Both of them were equally tough. It's Bolsheviks vs. Kerensky Government, the callous vs. the sensitives. A replay of the 60's, actually, when administrators were similarly effeminate.
Actually, I think the administrators are the Stalinists (socialism in one country) and the students are the Trotskyites (permanent revolution). Another reminder to be glad Uncle Joe won that internal squabble.
Speak for yourself. I have three young children, and I’m already looking for alternatives. I know exactly what’s hitting whites, because I saw it myself while in college. It’s just past the tipping point now.
BTW, if going to the local college were really such a sure thing for being in the professions, why do entry level jobs for college grads pay less than driving a truck? And why so many H1-Bs from whatever fake technical college in Bangalore working for tech companies?
The closest you can get to a sure thing these days is a technical degree combined with industry certification. And more and more people are electing to pursue both outside the bloated, politically compromised university system. Have kids get a technical degree in a field they like first, and if they excel they can take continuing education to move up the ladder. Sure beats having a useless BA that qualifies you for little more than working at Starbucks or Barnes and Noble for $10/hr.
The decline of the US has been one of the most over-hyped stories for decades. This feels different. Once you put true believers into position where they control the levers weird things happen.
I have experienced this in my industry. We have had blatantly illegal things done to us by our regulators which have come directly from the President and the DOJ.
A bigger macro example is McDonalds. They got an African American leader, hired an enormous number of black people for professional positions and have been absolutely dying ever since. Their debt is about to head into junk status: truly inconceivable 20 years ago. I have African American customers that work in corporate positions for McDonalds that literally never work. They don’t even go into their office.
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/13/students-submit-new-demands-to-salovey/
The expression on Salovey's face makes me think of a man who knows he is moments away from the firing squad.
Comparisons to the Cultural Revolution are apt, but there's something eerie in the spontaneity of the whole thing--I mean, it's possible that Mizzou, Yale and CMC were brought about through careful central coordination, but somehow I think unlikely. An instructive comparison might be to mass hysteria, amplified in this case by the power of social media:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_hysteria
Where and when it ends, I don't know.
Are we allowed to say, “Monkey see, monkey do”?
I can’t help but think, as one who grew up in lefty southern California, that the content of secondary schooling has changed, and is priming these kids for nutbar victimhood / KKK in the bushes. I see it most with my younger acquaintances, those under 30 and particularly under 25, who are most likely to undermine European culture. From atheism rants (Islamophobia carefully avoided) to historical ignorance (few know the country was 90% white only 50 yrs ago) to anti-”white hegemony” freak-outs, I think the No Child Left Behind, Race to the Top, and now Common Core are altering history and literature content to align with the victimology campaigns. Any thoughts from people who’ve had kids through the system since 2000? Ours are just entering primary.
Left Wingers are even spotting the KKK in the bushes of Berkeley, which is even more Left Wing than Southern California.
Berkeley is about as much of a hotbed for the KKK as the country of Bolivia is a Blondetopia.
Wasn’t the homo stuff supposed to tame black rage and turn everyone more effeminate?
http://bossip.com/973616/yaaaaaaas-bish-yaaaaaas-black-openly-gay-connecticut-teenager-crowned-high-school-prom-queen/
(Nasir FLEMING. Lol.)
Have the fancy queens take over from the thug kings.
For a time, it worked, and black rage was muted, especially with first black president Obama favoring homo agenda above black concerns. Black athletes and rappers were pressured to tone down their overly macho ‘homophobia’.
But it was bound to fail. While there is a thenthitive side to homo-ness, overly sensitive types also tend to be bitchier, hissier, vainer, more self-centered, and more hysterical.
So the homo influence on black culture hasn’t been mellowing but even more hysterical and nastier.
Black rage has fused with homo hysterics. Loud and bitchy at the same time.
PS: Mexers got one too.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/28/local/me-prom-queen28
How the hell are you going to turn these guys more effeminate? They are way too gangsta alpha male for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Tuirx98Qk
If your from a high crime 3rd world neighborhood like The 5th Ward in Houston, Texas for example, you are not going to be down with Gay as hell SWPL culture.
>>No, I think what we’re seeing are show trials of the reigning Trotskyites by emergent Stalinists.
And where did the Trotskyites end up? They didn’t just disappear, they morphed and ended up on the right as Neocons and have been causing trouble to the right ever since.
I am enraged by the idea that with left lunacy and mass immigration the softer left will morph themselves and reemerge as new Necons, ready to take the reins of the right party and become the dominant force in this country.
More like glider parents. Sometimes bungee cord parents.
Is that a trade-off you and yours are willing to make?
First of all, let me extend a sincere and heartfelt welcome to you. There are some of us who don’t need to make the trade-off, because we never accepted libertarianism as a political philosophy. Are you familiar at all with the Traditionalist-Perennialist Right? With any of the European Nouveau Droit movements (they certainly aren’t markets uber alles)? With the contemporary blogger Mencius Moldbug? Do you read Pat Buchanan columns regularly?
I’m not suggesting any of these things are the sole and complete answer, but they are some very simple and readily available ways to get started in the right direction.
Well duh dude you’re from SoCal. I’m sure you know plenty of older people who buy into that victimology dogma. You’re at one of its epicenters.
Is that a trade-off you and yours are willing to make?
Sorry, no dice. We’ll die before we hand over our straw man!
“Since when did any but a negligible percentage of young blacks have helicopter parents? The “students” leading these “protests” are overwhelmingly “of color” and they do not come from “helicopter” households.”
Having helicopter parents is either a White thing or an Asian tiger mom thing. Blacks take a Libertarian live free or die approach to parenting in that they let their kids do whatever the hell they want, hence why such a high percentage of K-12 Black students are troublemakers in school who are always getting expelled or suspended. If they came from households with good parenting that would not be the case.
“I can’t help but think, as one who grew up in lefty southern California, that the content of secondary schooling has changed, and is priming these kids for nutbar victimhood / KKK in the bushes.”
Left Wingers are even spotting the KKK in the bushes of Berkeley, which is even more Left Wing than Southern California.
Berkeley is about as much of a hotbed for the KKK as the country of Bolivia is a Blondetopia.
Actually, there are a lot of sheltered SWPL progeny whose families talked left and walked right, who naively assumed that in college they would be welcomed into the rainbow coalition as "not one of those pickup truck riding bigots" and are now finding their dreams in tatters.
Status-conscious, educated, industrious SWPLs aren't going to cast their lot with the Left if the best they can hope for is being some low-level operative in an American ANC.
The Right should be 1) creating chaos among all Left front groups and media by egging them on to make their staffs and management reflect the prog coalition (44% minority), thereby making them as useless as the DC Metro or Freddie Mac, and 2) actively recruiting young SWPLs who are disillusioned by seeing reality conflict with their bedtime stories and who can give us a dose of that old time Rockefeller Republican competence and work ethic.
The reason that Rockefeller Republicans disappeared is because they were in fact less competent than their rivals in the GOP. To point Nelson Rockefeller was lazy and incompetent. Very much the Jeb Bush of his day. Southerners took over the GOP because when you get down to it Southerners and Sun Belters win elections while Northeasterners don’t. Dewey wasn’t from South Carolina.
* - nothing wrong with that. The bulk of my extended family of 100 or so have done it.
This is the scary part of it. Initially it would look like they’re destroying themselves…but in fact what is happening is they are purifying and refining their movement. And when they talk about violent opposition to their opposition…they might just mean it.
These SJWs are frightening in what they’re capable of and in what they believe.
For a time, it worked, and black rage was muted, especially with first black president Obama favoring homo agenda above black concerns. Black athletes and rappers were pressured to tone down their overly macho 'homophobia'. But it was bound to fail. While there is a thenthitive side to homo-ness, overly sensitive types also tend to be bitchier, hissier, vainer, more self-centered, and more hysterical.
So the homo influence on black culture hasn't been mellowing but even more hysterical and nastier. Black rage has fused with homo hysterics. Loud and bitchy at the same time.PS: Mexers got one too. http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/28/local/me-prom-queen28
“Wasn’t the homo stuff supposed to tame black rage and turn everyone more effeminate?”
How the hell are you going to turn these guys more effeminate? They are way too gangsta alpha male for that.
If your from a high crime 3rd world neighborhood like The 5th Ward in Houston, Texas for example, you are not going to be down with Gay as hell SWPL culture.
Whatever else, there is a culture-of fear-aspect. Consider:
Why is it acceptable for a university administrator (at an extremely well-endowed institution) to show “an abundance of legal caution” when free speech (and sanity) are threatened?
I think the administrations must be, by and large, satisfied with the diversion of ostensibly leftist energy into the policing of speech. A lot better than the form the unrest took in the 60s - when it crystallized as the Free Speech Movement.
That's related to the question of whether campus neoMarcuseanism really is the continuation, or the negation, of 60s ideology. I say negation. 60s radicalism was anti-elitist (The elitist Marcuse being one of its subverters).
“These nerdy kids are finally discovering what every non-wimp has known all along: it feels great to be a bully. ”
Would you really describe most Black students at Mizzou as being nerds?
The nerds—fat black chicks, white wienies, and other inconsequential people—scream and carry signs, establish "safe spaces", and write slogans on sweatshirts with puffy paint. Adults (college administrators, politicians, etc.) have to at least pretend to listen to these people because it is generally believed that the nerds are capable of preventing the muscle—in this case, football player types—from lapsing into the destructive frenzies that typify their kind.
We saw the same bad actors in Ferguson, Baltimore, etc.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315835/Porn-star-sex-Hollywood-actor-secretly-battling-HIV-fears-epidemic-reveals-slept-50-adult-actresses-transsexuals.html
When will “Reagan’s Indifference” ever go away?
Looky here, RI slept with all these whores and trannies.
RI sure gets around sexually.
What we have is Cultural Devolution.
I do not kid when I say the Collected Works of Stalin are 100x more intellectually stimulating that the stuff that comes out of colleges today.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03.htm
“Someone got into the act by spray painting a swastika at Bowie State, a historically black college in Prince George’s County, Maryland.”
FAUX HATE CRIME COMMITTED BY A BLACK STUDENT.
I hear a lot about “helicopter parenting”, but the phenomenon doesn’t apply to the bulk of millennials. We actually have many latch-key kids raised by overstretched single parents. This translates into less parental involvement than earlier generations had. Perhaps elite campus demographics skew over-parented, but explaining a whole generation in those terms seems sloppy.
Alternatively, it seems to me that there is little real risk. The elite institutions could mount a successful constitutional challenge to such regulations – and should have done so long ago. What requires explanation is why they haven’t.
I think the administrations must be, by and large, satisfied with the diversion of ostensibly leftist energy into the policing of speech. A lot better than the form the unrest took in the 60s – when it crystallized as the Free Speech Movement.
That’s related to the question of whether campus neoMarcuseanism really is the continuation, or the negation, of 60s ideology. I say negation. 60s radicalism was anti-elitist (The elitist Marcuse being one of its subverters).
What we need are dissident leftists prepared to advance actual leftist agendas. Now that would be a real threat to Wall Street and the neocons.
There is absolutely no reason why one cannot be a social conservative and anti-immigration and even a race realist and still be left-wing. In fact mass immigration is fundamentally an ideology of the Right.
Another invade-invite incident? How about just call it INVIDE?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html
“Well duh dude you’re from SoCal. I’m sure you know plenty of older people who buy into that victimology dogma. You’re at one of its epicenters.”
Wish I could agree there. It’s the oldsters, particularly those who’ve seen SoCal’s immigration effects, who question the present-day b.s. The younger semi-radicalized crowd is from my current town, which is (was?) decidedly illiberal. It’s a stark generational difference and the “kids” (under-25s) are generally at odds with their politically conservative families. They carry on with BLM rants, white privilege mea culpas, anti-Veteran’s Day and anti-cop righteousness. The sheer numbers led me to think it’s secondary schooling, as most haven’t been to university.
“BTW, if going to the local college were really such a sure thing for being in the professions, why do entry level jobs for college grads pay less than driving a truck? ”
Its not. You have the cause-effect backwards. A college degree is necessary for a good job. A college degree is not a guarantee of a good job.
joeyjoejoe
This is backwards. What we are seeing now are show trials of the Stalinists by the Trotskyites. Trotsky was the lunatic ideologue.
Is that a trade-off you and yours are willing to make?
What are you willing to give up? Your enthusiasm for baby-killing, perhaps?
At Yale? I’d say quite a few of the parents’ of the blacks are helicopter.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis
want to be a mother."Needless to say, the interviewer did not reply with "don't you think unwed motherhood might be harmful for the child?" In today's America, what feminists want trumps what children need.
“I never have really said much about the whole episode, which was endless, but his speech was a perfectly intelligent speech about fathers not being dispensable and nobody agreed with that more than I did.” – Candice Bergen in 2002, on the 10th anniversary of Dan Quayle’s “Murphy Brown speech.”
“UC-Berkeley the school was one of the earliest afflicted by chronic student protest. My understanding (readers, please correct me if I’m wrong) is that the university at Berkeley has changed from being about 30% STEM in the 1970s to being over 80% STEM today (and in the process has gotten a lot more Asian). There doesn’t seem to be a lot of student protest news out of there lately.”
I think you’re right – there hasn’t been much spontaneous protest since the Rosebud riots. Asian proportion was nearing 40% even then.
I just don't see what's happening today as being any different than has happened, periodically, for my entire life-which are essentially repeats of the '60's riots.
Slightly off topic, but it really ties into why the Republican Party/nominating process is in such a shambles. Republicans are dominating state level politics: they control the Senate and House (still?). Yet nothing ever changes. If there is a silent majority, that silent majority really does think 'Shut up! You are wrong!' (about the mob in Missouri, about Bruce Jenner, about gay marriage, about women at ranger school, about affirmative action, about international affairs, etc etc etc). But people in power-in spite of being in power, never say it. So why vote the status quo?
I don't think people actually like Trump or Carson. They just hate the (democratic) alternative, and are tired of the irrelevance of the (Republican) alternative.
anonymousse
People no longer vote for the candidate (or party) that they like. They vote for the one they hate least.
Would you really describe most Black students at Mizzou as being nerds?
I’d say the that the set of black student troublemakers at Missouri contains nerds and another group, muscle (thanks Prof. Click!).
The nerds—fat black chicks, white wienies, and other inconsequential people—scream and carry signs, establish “safe spaces”, and write slogans on sweatshirts with puffy paint. Adults (college administrators, politicians, etc.) have to at least pretend to listen to these people because it is generally believed that the nerds are capable of preventing the muscle—in this case, football player types—from lapsing into the destructive frenzies that typify their kind.
We saw the same bad actors in Ferguson, Baltimore, etc.
Another fabricated faux KKK sighting from Left Wing loons, this time in Portland, Oregon.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Rumors-of-KKK-march-in-Portland-are-false-police-say-347503431.html
Expect a lot more faux KKK sightings in 2016 leading up the presidential election to scare Black voters into coming in mass to vote for Hillary Clinton. Political insiders know Hillary Clinton can not become president without high Black voter turnout because there are simply not enough White voters in America that want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Black voters do not think Hillary Clinton is as charismatic and likable as Hussein Obama, but they will vote for her in mass if they believe she will protect them from the big bad KKK boogeyman.
Given that the KKK were the armed wing of the Democratic party this is ironic eh.
The black girl at Yale, who shouted obscenities at the professor in that famous video, has a white mother who runs her own consulting firm. I imagine she was/is a helicopter mom.
What percentage of the Black population in the U.S have biological White mothers? She is an anomaly not the norm.
When you factor in that the average Black American is around 80 percent Sub Saharan African in ancestry, not many of them are going to have a biological White mother.
You need a find an example of a Black person who has a biological Black mother who is a helicopter mom.
I think the administrations must be, by and large, satisfied with the diversion of ostensibly leftist energy into the policing of speech. A lot better than the form the unrest took in the 60s - when it crystallized as the Free Speech Movement.
That's related to the question of whether campus neoMarcuseanism really is the continuation, or the negation, of 60s ideology. I say negation. 60s radicalism was anti-elitist (The elitist Marcuse being one of its subverters).
The Left is pretty much non-existent these days. The SJWs are the foot soldiers for the neocons and the billionaires. The SJWs are not leftists. The idea of Economic Justice has been replaced by Social Justice because Social Justice is no threat to Wall Street. The so-called Left of today has no interest in Economic Justice. The Left has been betrayed.
What we need are dissident leftists prepared to advance actual leftist agendas. Now that would be a real threat to Wall Street and the neocons.
There is absolutely no reason why one cannot be a social conservative and anti-immigration and even a race realist and still be left-wing. In fact mass immigration is fundamentally an ideology of the Right.
Would you really describe most Black students at Mizzou as being nerds?
Not at college, but they were certainly nerds in high school compared with their (black) classmates, and probably bullied for it.
Am I the only one suddenly having trouble reading the articles here? I can see the comments, but that’s all.
It appears that everything more recent than the eleventh is invisible, at least to me…
PC terrorism
ISHUSH
It’s pretty hard to ignore what’s going on. The ascendance of the black political terrorist activist class in US politics and especially universities is not a secret.
Is that a trade-off you and yours are willing to make?
You must be very new to the alt right if you think we share much ground with libertarians other than broad foreign policy views. Historically we can see the libertarian support for economic policies that hurt everyone but plutocrats, and more recently we can see how they are becoming indistinguishable from SJWs on many social issues.
I was an avid supporter of Ron Paul during the last two election cycles, but I have changed a great deal in my beliefs, and I think society has changed even more profoundly than I have. I think libertarianism is the first step in red-pilling. I don’t see it remaining a viable political entity as the US splinters more among ethnic, gender and class lines.
I think the administrations must be, by and large, satisfied with the diversion of ostensibly leftist energy into the policing of speech. A lot better than the form the unrest took in the 60s - when it crystallized as the Free Speech Movement.
That's related to the question of whether campus neoMarcuseanism really is the continuation, or the negation, of 60s ideology. I say negation. 60s radicalism was anti-elitist (The elitist Marcuse being one of its subverters).
Could you please elaborate on your last paragraph? And your second paragraph if you’re so inclined? These are interesting questions I’ve never seen brought up. But that’s the best part of reading Unz. The quality of the discussion is orders of magnitude superior to most sites.
When the radical student wave subsided in the early 70s, leftists abandoned the radical movement and sought entry into academia. This was what their previous selves would have called a sellout. They had given up on the masses and sought personal salvation through careerist channels, and they salved their egos by purveying doctrines that had a superficial continuity with the left but actually served their new elite masters.
“The black girl at Yale, who shouted obscenities at the professor in that famous video, has a white mother who runs her own consulting firm. I imagine she was/is a helicopter mom.”
What percentage of the Black population in the U.S have biological White mothers? She is an anomaly not the norm.
When you factor in that the average Black American is around 80 percent Sub Saharan African in ancestry, not many of them are going to have a biological White mother.
You need a find an example of a Black person who has a biological Black mother who is a helicopter mom.
They both were insufferable--stupid and entitled. They were too lazy to accomplish much of anything. Even profound race-baiting and grievance mongering required too much energy for their pampered personalities, but the environment was so favorable to that kind of thing that even their halfhearted efforts in that direction were sometimes successful. They mostly struck me as being akin to the opulent court eunuchs of the Ottoman Empire--petty African Big Men with soft hands and heads full of wool.
Additionally the Ivies probably have a disproportionate amount of mulattos, such as this girl and Obama types, who are taking up diversity slots intended for African Americans that truly are disadvantaged. I don't know if the stats are available, but I'd put my money down that a much higher proportion of blacks at the Ivies have a white parent than blacks in the general population.
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What percentage of the Black population in the U.S have biological White mothers? She is an anomaly not the norm.
When you factor in that the average Black American is around 80 percent Sub Saharan African in ancestry, not many of them are going to have a biological White mother.
You need a find an example of a Black person who has a biological Black mother who is a helicopter mom.
I’ve only met two of them in my life. The first was not actually an American citizen. He was a black Frenchmen whom I worked with at a department store, whose family back in France were considerably wealthy. One day he told me he was tired of working and paying for things himself, and that he was going to ask his father for a car. The next day he showed up in a brand new BMW. The other one was a student I went to community college with. An absolutely incompetent oaf who would get regular cash infusions wired to him from his relatives.
They both were insufferable–stupid and entitled. They were too lazy to accomplish much of anything. Even profound race-baiting and grievance mongering required too much energy for their pampered personalities, but the environment was so favorable to that kind of thing that even their halfhearted efforts in that direction were sometimes successful. They mostly struck me as being akin to the opulent court eunuchs of the Ottoman Empire–petty African Big Men with soft hands and heads full of wool.
There’s been a huge expansion in private schooling in the levels below college just in the last 30 years alone. I saw a mix of these public and privately schooled kids back when I went to college, and the thing that really struck me was how eccentric and neurotic the private ed kids were. They’d been allowed to indulge in their own personal weirdness, and it was clear their rough edges had never been knocked off the way the public ed kids had theirs sanded down by their less-cooth schoolmates from the lower classes. The private ed kids were weird without knowing they were weird, because no one had ever told them their beliefs and behaviors were ridiculous. This is one reason I’ve never supported private schools. I think they’re bad for your kids, frankly.
Yes, it is true England’s had private schools for their elite for generations, but one thing has always been true of them. Those places did not coddle your fanny, and they were proud of being that way. They expected to produce empire builders like Cecil Rhodes, tough-minded administrators for India, etc., and they knew their grads needed to be able to kick ass if the natives staged an uprising.
The problem with private schooling is that in the US, all power has shifted to the student paying the massive tuition money. Administrators don’t want to kill the precious squalling geese laying the golden eggs.
It's not Stalinists and Trotskyites, though. Both of them were equally tough. It's Bolsheviks vs. Kerensky Government, the callous vs. the sensitives. A replay of the 60's, actually, when administrators were similarly effeminate.
I can’t imagine why you equate toughness with viciousness. Both Stalin and Trotsky were vicious.
Stalin proved that rabid impulses were neither fatal to him nor abated by the passage of time. That did not make Stalin tough. It made him merely dangerous. The rabid dog is not tougher, just more dangerous.
If Stalin were tough he would not have licked Hitler’s boots. And if Trotsky were tough he would not have passively acquiesced to the ‘will of the Party’.
But you misunderstanding is instructive. You get the administrators perfidy. You miss the mark on the Bolsheviks.
Evil has its superficial appeal. Look at it for what it is, and then turn away. Look and turn away, or find yourself its servant. Non tertium datur.
I think you're right - there hasn't been much spontaneous protest since the Rosebud riots. Asian proportion was nearing 40% even then.
I remember skimming a book by Robert Kaplan at a bookstore once, but I didn’t find it interesting enough as a whole to buy. It consisted of him talking to various military personal ( US ) at various places throughout the world, one of them an engineer on submarine. He apparently attended Cal-Berkeley for one of his degrees and he said that Berkeley’s reputation for radicalism was only half true because the campus was in effect two campuses, the Humanities/Social Science wing which was very liberal and the Math/Science/Engineering wing which was pretty conservative ( By California academic standards anyway ).
He said the STEM part of Berkeley was basically indistinguishable from other tech heavy universities like MIT, University of Illinois, Stanford, and Cal Tech. I think he implied there was a geographic separation as well, with each side dominating their respective areas of campus, he also implied there wasn’t a lot of interaction between the two wings either. I don’t know how accurate that is, I have never been to the Cal-Berkeley campus. It did make a lot of intuitive sense though, because most universities that let radicalism reign starting in the 1960′s lost a lot of their reputations in STEM, particularly CUNY and Columbia, but Cal-Berkeley did not, this cognitive and geographic separation may be the reason.
http://www.vdare.com/posts/what-the-1960s-were-really-like
What percentage of the Black population in the U.S have biological White mothers? She is an anomaly not the norm.
When you factor in that the average Black American is around 80 percent Sub Saharan African in ancestry, not many of them are going to have a biological White mother.
You need a find an example of a Black person who has a biological Black mother who is a helicopter mom.
I don’t think so. The guy I was responding to was referring to the students leading these protests, not the general population of blacks in America. The gal at Yale who started this with her rant on that video has a white mom.
Additionally the Ivies probably have a disproportionate amount of mulattos, such as this girl and Obama types, who are taking up diversity slots intended for African Americans that truly are disadvantaged. I don’t know if the stats are available, but I’d put my money down that a much higher proportion of blacks at the Ivies have a white parent than blacks in the general population.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Rumors-of-KKK-march-in-Portland-are-false-police-say-347503431.htmlExpect a lot more faux KKK sightings in 2016 leading up the presidential election to scare Black voters into coming in mass to vote for Hillary Clinton. Political insiders know Hillary Clinton can not become president without high Black voter turnout because there are simply not enough White voters in America that want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency.Black voters do not think Hillary Clinton is as charismatic and likable as Hussein Obama, but they will vote for her in mass if they believe she will protect them from the big bad KKK boogeyman.
they believe she will protect them from the big bad KKK boogeyman.
Given that the KKK were the armed wing of the Democratic party this is ironic eh.
Oh these yoofs aren’t university-indoctrinated? Wow. That is interesting. In the past one generally needed to go to college to get that stupid. But I’m sure school curricula are only part of the explanation here. I’m sure a lot of it is involve herd behavior, critical masses, social signaling, echo-chambers, and the proliferation of cancerous SJW hotbeds like tumblr, among other things.
Usually social trends develop gradually, so when age correlates with any variable it tends to do so in a pretty linear way. For example, if 10% of 80 year olds believe x, and 30% of 60 year olds believe x, then generally 50% of 40 year olds and 70% of 20 year olds will believe x. So if the beliefs of these kids you know are generally truly distinct from the beliefs of the people ten or fifteen years older than them, that would seem to mark a “generation gap” we haven’t seen since the 1960s. But I would still be careful about generalizing beyond your state or your part of your state.
There’s already a Massasoit Community College in Brockton, MA.
Metacomet would be more fitting. That was the other name of King Philip, who also waged struggle against the white man’s encroaching (now receding) civilization.
As they say, a scientific revolution occurs by the old scientists dying off and being replaced with the young ones– without anyone actually changing his mind.
The same happens with the negro males (and effeminate or gay males) who are encouraged to see the KKK in every shadow with only government standing between them and a noose. The negroes who had fathers, a diminishing number to be sure, are thereby also encouraged to view government as savior and protector.
“Training girls to run to administrators for safety is about training them to view government a replacement for a Man.”
Girls, because they lack physical strength and because no one takes them seriously, have always appealed to government and outside authorities for power.
A lot of today’s Southern GOP, both leadership and rank-and-file, consists of descendents of those who used to make up the backbone of the Northern GOP who carpetbagged* down South in the latter half of the 20th Century to take advantage of economic opportunity. Also air-conditioning.
* – nothing wrong with that. The bulk of my extended family of 100 or so have done it.
Nixon carried the white suburbs where folks, many from the North, were happy to see Jim Crow behind them and wanted to get on with integrating the South into the booming national economy without the drag of Jim Crow.
Wallace carried whites in small towns where whites and blacks lived close together.
Humphrey carried whites in the hill country where there weren't many blacks and old-fashioned Labor issues resounded.
It took me a while but I finally remembered something from a few years ago about Morehouse College, a HBCU. In 2010 the dean banned students, all male, almost all black, from cross dressing on campus. Seems that a contingent of gay students liked to dress to the extreme, tight skirts, pearls, stilettos…the works. The dean chose not to offer them a “safe space” but to ban the wearing of women’s attire anywhere, anytime, on campus. I wonder how this would have gone over at Mizzou or Yale, sorry, I know the answer, but a black dean at a black college, different story.
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* - nothing wrong with that. The bulk of my extended family of 100 or so have done it.
That was already true by the time of the 3-way 1968 election in the South:
Nixon carried the white suburbs where folks, many from the North, were happy to see Jim Crow behind them and wanted to get on with integrating the South into the booming national economy without the drag of Jim Crow.
Wallace carried whites in small towns where whites and blacks lived close together.
Humphrey carried whites in the hill country where there weren’t many blacks and old-fashioned Labor issues resounded.
Keep in mind, too, that most regular blacks are just a darker shade of redneck. They're unlikely to go R until the GOPe is overthrown (nor are a good many of the Kim Davis Ds), but I don't see them having much enthusiasm for a Godless Prog Party either unless a Black man is running it.
I wouldn’t really explain much of this stuff in terms of helicopter parenting.
It’s more about the increasing prevalence of edgelords and trolls among the young, due to the internet. I.e. this is basically 90%+ of iSteve commentators, wannabee Steves with a plethora of added personality problems, men, largely who just do not actually know anything, and want to feel like the big bollocks bigman saying the unsayable.
When you have these absolute fools and ignorant c*nts making provocative and easily shut down foolish statements all the time, it’s easy to get sympathy to get sympathy on a platform of silencing trolls, redpill morons, (and I’m talking fools like GamerGate, trying to be politically active beyond their intelligence) etc.
Unfortunately, over the time it is natural that this will reach an excess of going to spread over to normal discourse, once a critical mass of anti-trolls builds up. They will target normal activities, simply out of habit.
Regarding Haidt’s theory, he is of course a very foolish sociologist. There was never any culture of an idealised group of people secure in their dignity, in the past. People were just as insecure, or more so. If anything people are more narcissistic and high esteem and loath to be painted the victim, today.
I seriously don’t think you would have SJWs without you had the crass stupidity of Generation South Park and Generation Jackass (and the case of Generation South Park, the crass pseudo-middlebrow intellectualism). Or Generation Ogrish, Generation 4Chan, Generation Revenge Pron, Generation Roissy.
These are young men who were so dumbly offensive and plainly narcissistic in their dumb offensiveness they made being thin skinned look *good*, by comparison. And now we are reaping the whirlwind of their toothless crapulence. Every reaction has an equal, but opposite reaction, pathetic trolling and edgelordery included.
If they’d been healthy young men who behaved normally and with dignity, we’d never have seen this. Young people are influenced by their peers, and when the young men behave without dignity, why would anyone else keep it?
How the hell are you going to turn these guys more effeminate? They are way too gangsta alpha male for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Tuirx98Qk
If your from a high crime 3rd world neighborhood like The 5th Ward in Houston, Texas for example, you are not going to be down with Gay as hell SWPL culture.
There is such a thing as “butch”
Here’s a small elaboration. Commenters have characterized university administrators as former leftists, implying that they remain loyal to the radicalism of the 60s. I think they are betrayers of 60s radicalism, which considered the university an elitist tool that should be democratized, not manipulated from within an elitist structure. Most centrally, of course, 60s radicalism was a movement against the Vietnam War. Many protests were aimed at university military research contracts and ROTC.
When the radical student wave subsided in the early 70s, leftists abandoned the radical movement and sought entry into academia. This was what their previous selves would have called a sellout. They had given up on the masses and sought personal salvation through careerist channels, and they salved their egos by purveying doctrines that had a superficial continuity with the left but actually served their new elite masters.
Nixon carried the white suburbs where folks, many from the North, were happy to see Jim Crow behind them and wanted to get on with integrating the South into the booming national economy without the drag of Jim Crow.
Wallace carried whites in small towns where whites and blacks lived close together.
Humphrey carried whites in the hill country where there weren't many blacks and old-fashioned Labor issues resounded.
Yeah, but that Humphrey cohort is only just now flipping thanks to the War on Coal and Traditional Christianity. (D) Kim Davis supported the campaign of the new R guv of Kentucky.
Keep in mind, too, that most regular blacks are just a darker shade of redneck. They’re unlikely to go R until the GOPe is overthrown (nor are a good many of the Kim Davis Ds), but I don’t see them having much enthusiasm for a Godless Prog Party either unless a Black man is running it.
When the radical student wave subsided in the early 70s, leftists abandoned the radical movement and sought entry into academia. This was what their previous selves would have called a sellout. They had given up on the masses and sought personal salvation through careerist channels, and they salved their egos by purveying doctrines that had a superficial continuity with the left but actually served their new elite masters.
The institutions ended up marching through the Left.
It's more about the increasing prevalence of edgelords and trolls among the young, due to the internet. I.e. this is basically 90%+ of iSteve commentators, wannabee Steves with a plethora of added personality problems, men, largely who just do not actually know anything, and want to feel like the big bollocks bigman saying the unsayable.
When you have these absolute fools and ignorant c*nts making provocative and easily shut down foolish statements all the time, it's easy to get sympathy to get sympathy on a platform of silencing trolls, redpill morons, (and I'm talking fools like GamerGate, trying to be politically active beyond their intelligence) etc.
Unfortunately, over the time it is natural that this will reach an excess of going to spread over to normal discourse, once a critical mass of anti-trolls builds up. They will target normal activities, simply out of habit.
Regarding Haidt's theory, he is of course a very foolish sociologist. There was never any culture of an idealised group of people secure in their dignity, in the past. People were just as insecure, or more so. If anything people are more narcissistic and high esteem and loath to be painted the victim, today.
AnoM,
Were it so easy, you’d have done so instead of opting for seven paragraphs of sophomoric name-calling without a substantive claim, let alone argument, to be found.
That you expect this to convince anyone suggests that such playground taunts are convincing to you. What leads you to believe that anyone else would give what such a man says anything but the most cursory consideration?
What we need are dissident leftists prepared to advance actual leftist agendas. Now that would be a real threat to Wall Street and the neocons.
There is absolutely no reason why one cannot be a social conservative and anti-immigration and even a race realist and still be left-wing. In fact mass immigration is fundamentally an ideology of the Right.
Bernie is basically a real leftist although he allowed himself to be cucked by the BLM thugettes. Identity politics über alles
What we need are dissident leftists prepared to advance actual leftist agendas. Now that would be a real threat to Wall Street and the neocons.
There is absolutely no reason why one cannot be a social conservative and anti-immigration and even a race realist and still be left-wing. In fact mass immigration is fundamentally an ideology of the Right.
There have always been deep divisions in what is called the left. Today, one “leftist” program is for safe spaces, micro-agression control, etc. This direction is encouraged by university administrators and by federal oversight. One of the main functions of this neo-Marcusean direction is to divert from genuine leftism, to channel protest into identity politics or the Democratic Party.
The genuinely leftist program on the campuses involves support for striking workers, anti-Zionism, U.S. withdrawal from the Middle East and Afghanistan, and for the elimination of tuition. It has been overshadowed, it is true, by minority and feminist identity politics.
However, as miniscule as it is today, the actual far left is where you will get the most principled support for campus free speech. (See, for a sample of leftist agitation, http://www.internationalist.org/cunywitchhunters1511.html ) [I'm not endorsing the entire program, which unfortunately contains globalist elements.]
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These days the actual Left has zero power and influence so they're in favour of free speech (for the same reason the alt-right favours free speech). Those who have hijacked the Left, the Pseudo-Leftists or cucksocialists who push nonsense like identity politics and global warming hysteria, have enormous power and influence so naturally they oppose free speech.
Having said that I have a lot more respect for the genuine Far Left than I have for either cuckservatives or the phony mainstream Left. I don't agree with the Far Left, but I can respect them. Personally I'd probably describe myself as a moderate centre-leftist on economic issues and an extreme social conservative. And a convinced anti-globalist. To me the genuine Far Leftists are people you can at least reason with.
He’s also bought into the climate change nonsense in a major way. He seems to be a textbook example of the way the Left has been hijacked – someone who used to be a genuine Leftist but who has sold the Left out. Identity politics and climate change hysteria are fundamentally hostile to the very people Leftists like Bernie claim to care about.
Your use of the expression cucked sums it up. He’s a cucksocialist.
To me that more than anything makes him unsupportable.
Your use of the expression cucked sums it up. He's a cucksocialist.
He also supports imperialist interventionism, clothed in anti-ISIS rhetoric.
To me that more than anything makes him unsupportable.
Generally speaking those who don’t have power believe in free speech. Those who do have power oppose free speech.
These days the actual Left has zero power and influence so they’re in favour of free speech (for the same reason the alt-right favours free speech). Those who have hijacked the Left, the Pseudo-Leftists or cucksocialists who push nonsense like identity politics and global warming hysteria, have enormous power and influence so naturally they oppose free speech.
Having said that I have a lot more respect for the genuine Far Left than I have for either cuckservatives or the phony mainstream Left. I don’t agree with the Far Left, but I can respect them. Personally I’d probably describe myself as a moderate centre-leftist on economic issues and an extreme social conservative. And a convinced anti-globalist. To me the genuine Far Leftists are people you can at least reason with.
These days the actual Left has zero power and influence so they're in favour of free speech (for the same reason the alt-right favours free speech). Those who have hijacked the Left, the Pseudo-Leftists or cucksocialists who push nonsense like identity politics and global warming hysteria, have enormous power and influence so naturally they oppose free speech.
Having said that I have a lot more respect for the genuine Far Left than I have for either cuckservatives or the phony mainstream Left. I don't agree with the Far Left, but I can respect them. Personally I'd probably describe myself as a moderate centre-leftist on economic issues and an extreme social conservative. And a convinced anti-globalist. To me the genuine Far Leftists are people you can at least reason with.
Do I strike you as highly unreasonable?
[…] The left loves to claim that it is rebellious or somehow revolutionary but in actual fact it dominates the media and education systems. They may have lost the economic struggle but they have since abandoned orthodox marxism in favour of a cultural variant. Sadly, they have been allowed free reign in the cultural struggle. The revolution has been institutionalized and with each passing generation it becomes more extreme. The younger generations have digested the views of the leftist professors, journalists and others who have their whole lives so inundated them with sentimental grievance politics, and are now taking them to new extremes, […]
With all due respect to Mr. Graham, and I do agree that “teenagers are driven crazy by the life they’re made to lead”, one has to only read Shakespeare’s ‘Romeo & Juliet’ to realize that “the concept of the hormone-crazed teenager is” not necessarily “coeval with suburbia” by the modern-day emphasis he pronounces (at least, how I interpreted it’s meaning)….unless one is to equate ‘fair Verona’ with today’s suburbs. One of the reasons I fell in love with Shakespeare was that he empathized the very same feelings I was going through at the time of my ‘hormone-crazed teenager’ awakening in my ‘suburbia’ upbringing. My emphasis is not to Romeo’s angst or Juliet’s passion. I am referring to teenage male interactions such as Romeo’s, Mercutio’s, Benvolio’s, Tybalt’s, etc. “Their craziness is the craziness of the idle everywhere.”….Indeed.