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NPR's Kat Chow: Andrew Sullivan's Asian Model Minority Myth Ignores Plight of Bhutanese-Americans

From NPR:

‘Model Minority’ Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

April 19, 20178:32 AM ET
by Kat Chow

She’s just trolling, right? I dare you to make an insensitive joke about the unfortunate nickname I use!

The perception of universal success among Asian-Americans is being wielded to downplay racism’s role in the persistent struggles of other minority groups, especially black Americans.

A piece from New York Magazine’s Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their “solid two-parent family structures,” are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump’s policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

“Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn’t possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn’t be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?”

Sullivan’s piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities;

This might be the hundredth time over the decades I’ve read this general “But what about” argument from an aggrieved Asian-American activist.

for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans.

But they usually cite Hmongs or Cambodians. This may be the first time I’ve seen reference to the Bhutanese-American community, so Kat Chow deserves points for originality.

(Thanks to commenter Martin for this.)

By the way, are you familiar with comedienne Ali Wong’s distinction between Jungle Asians (Vietnamese, Filipino, etc.) and Fancy Asians (Japanese, Chinese, etc.)?

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  1. I just love how she writes, “On Twitter, people took Sullivan’s “old-fashioned rendering” to task.”, then shows tweets from left wing, identity focused journalists.

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  2. “Kat Chow”… Love the name. Sounds like heartier cat food.

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    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    Purina
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Kat Chow?

    Eat me.
    , @Anonymous
    "Kat Chow”… Love the name. Sounds like heartier cat food.

    Chow, Chow, Chow!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hS5QzGIVa7I (Purina "Kat" Chow - Chow, Chow, Chow)

  3. Just the other day neo-confederates Charles Murray and John Derbyshire were talking about how much they hate asians.

    Indeed, the 1.25% of white Americans who can tell the difference between a Cambodian, Hmong, Bhutanese on one hand and a South Chinese and Vietnamese on the other really really hate and discriminate against the former groups, leading to wide economic disparities. British imperialism, mortgage redlining, stereotype threat and King Leopald also are responsible.

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  4. Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

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    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @donut
    I read somewhere that they tend to discourage tourism as well .
    , @Anonymous
    When Bhutan sends over their Wretched Refuse™ they're not sending their best
    , @Tom-in-VA
    The Queen of Bhutan is very pretty, and the King looks like Asian Elvis.

    http://i.imgur.com/HsnyS.jpg
    , @Maj. Kong
    The "refugees" from Bhutan in this country are mostly Nepalese that came into Bhutan during a war.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutanese_refugees
    , @duncsbaby
    I live in a building and a city that has a lot of Bhutanese refugees. From what I was able to glean from a local news story of a couple years ago most, if not all, Bhutanese refugees are ethnically Nepali. Over the last decade or so the government of Bhutan has been engaged in a program of "Bhutanization," in effect kicking out those not considered Bhutanese. So it's weird most of the Bhutanese are really Nepalese who weren't accepted by either country & were living in refugee camps for many years.
    As far as I can tell they seem to be Hindu for the most part. The women wear saris & have elaborate nose rings. They keep to themselves for most part & are pretty quiet, the middle-aged men seem to be unemployed, standing outside the building during the day, smoking. The younger 20 something types of course though are adopting American gangster style clothing & are louder when partying & fighting. All in all, I don't despise or abhor them but feel pity because they don't seem to have a place anywhere in this world. Now of course they are an American social problem, not so much a Bhutanese or Nepali social problem.
    , @jtgw
    Bhutan is apparently also one of the few countries not to have any formal diplomatic relations with the US, but unlike with North Korea, Iran or Syria, there are no obvious hostilities between the two countries. I'm not sure why no formal relations have been established, other than that Bhutan just tries to keep to itself as much as possible and establishing such relations might open the door to foreign interference. Formal contact with Bhutan is mediated through the Indian government, according to Wikipedia.
    , @Doug
    They basically practice of form of lifetime slavery in the Buddhist monasteries. Many poorer families give up their excess sons to be raised by the local monastery.at adulthood you have to pay back the cost of your care. Either by buying your freedom or working as a monk. But the wages are a pittance and it's basically impossible to ever pay back the debt.

    On top of all this, the life of a monk means lifetime celibacy. All enforced by the Bhutanese state. (Btw Bhutan is basically just a version of Tibet that remained independent of Beijing)
    , @Sean
    Because of bloody hordes of Chinese tourists turning into a fun park. Chinese traders breeding a mixed over class will be next
  5. Alternative title: “Obvious Truth of the Model Minority Non-Myth Makes Too Much Sense, Please Stop Invoking It.”

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "‘Model Minority’ Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks"

    For this to be true, there has to be unity between yellows and blacks.

    Is there?

    Sullivan's views were not a wedge. You can't split apart what are NOT together and one to begin with.

    He just noticed the division that already exists and surmised as to why.

    Btw, whatever the economic conditions of Bhutanese-Americans(LOL) are, I highly doubt if they are dying to integrate with the brothas.

    Also, no one's talking about 'model minority'. We are talking about why some groups do some things better than other groups.

    Could there be cultural factors?

    If Sullivan is to be faulted, he focused on culture but didn't mention genetic factors.
  6. It’s so hard to keep up with the various victim groups, but yep noted Bhutanese-American, victim group. But poor Appalachian Whites, still not a victim group, got it.

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  7. Don’t forget Sikkimese-Americans & Nepalese-Americans, as well as Mongol-Americans

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    What about Tuvanese-Americans?

    And no stereotypes about them being throat-singers, please!

    You don't know how exhausting it is for the Tuvanese-American community to explain that they don't all throat sing.

    , @Ivy
    Hey Bardon, good to see you commenting. OT what would you recommend for some books to learn more about central and Eastern European history?
    Thanks
  8. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Here is a write-up about Dog Chow, I mean Kat Chow.

    Excerpt:

    What makes you angry?

    Casual racism. Oh, sure, why don’t you fling that subtle (or often, not-so-subtle) disparaging remark around and think that there won’t be any sort of consequence? Joking about black names because they’re “weird.” Asking why Asian-Americans aren’t good drivers. Et cetera. That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with. There’s no perfect way to handle those situations, and it’s always weird and awkward and unpleasant in moments where someone lets something racist slip out. Do you sit someone down and patiently and gently tell them that, um, they’re saying something that’s sort of racist? Someone really needs to make a recording that we can all just play in situations like this.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    , @Anon
    "Joking about black names because they’re “weird.” Asking why Asian-Americans aren’t good drivers. Et cetera. That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    What is she talking about?

    This sounds like TV shows, movies, and comedies.

    In real life, people tend to be sensitive about that stuff.

    It's in entertainment(all run by Libs) that we see all these stereotypes.

    In real life, how many white people ask a black woman, "why is your name Booticallisha?"

    White folks know how touchy black folks are.

    It is usually blacks who 'dis' other blacks in entertainment.

    And all ethnic comedians play up the stereotypes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7NNYPSYxW0
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, of course the names D'Brickishaw. Barkevious and Shitavious are now so common among blacks that you really have to accept them, not mock them.
    , @Forbes
    Maybe if she explained why Asians are such bad drivers people would stop asking...
  9. Ms. Chow is offended at the generalization of Asian Americans, so offers a counter-generalization of Bhutanese-Americans. Wow!

    Generalizations for me but not for thee.

    Kat Chow’s stereotyping and bigotry towards low performing Bhutanese Americans is an attempt to drive a wedge…

    Bhutan is an obscure tiny country with less than a million people (Wikipedia says 742,737). I never heard of this country or people until now. Apparently, ~70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "Apparently, ~70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible."

    Whose dumb idea was that?
    , @User
    Cool flag though https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Flag_of_Bhutan.svg/1280px-Flag_of_Bhutan.svg.png
    , @27 year old
    >70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible.

    Not surprising imo. For a honest to god Buddhist, egocentric consumerist America must be the worst hell imaginable. It's nightmarish for me, and I was born and raised in neoliberalism.
  10. @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    I read somewhere that they tend to discourage tourism as well .

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I read somewhere that they tend to discourage tourism as well .
     
    Mass tourism. They're now encouraging the selective, high-price kind.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Bhutan allows tourism, but only on officially-sanctioned tours that cost a bomb. I have a friend who went there a few years back, and he said it's indeed a beautiful place, but if I recall correctly he had to pay hundreds of US dollars per day of visiting there as a kind of national cover charge.
  11. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    When Bhutan sends over their Wretched Refuse™ they’re not sending their best

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  12. Asians, a “model minority”? Like Seung-Hui Cho, Chai Vang, and Jiverly Wong?

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  13. REFUGEE OVERLOAD in New Hampshire means boatloads of “Bhutanese.” Greedy Lutherans running the REFUGEE OVERLOAD racket are making big bucks from the “Bhutanese” invasion currently under way in New Hampshire.

    The American Empire is attempting to entangle the globe in its tentacles. One way to make all global and regional problems the purview of the American Empire is to bring these problems and conflicts to the United States. The evil ruling class of the American Empire wants to completely destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States. Bringing big batches of “Bhutanese” to the United States is just another way to further attack White Core Americans.

    REFUGEE OVERLOAD increases housing costs, swamps schools, increases income inequality, overwhelms hospitals, destroys cultural cohesion and harms affordable family formation for young White Core Americans. REFUGEE OVERLOAD creates multicultural mayhem and brings ethnic conflict to the United States.

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  14. She’s just trolling, right? I dare you to make an insensitive joke about the unfortunate nickname I use!

    This is neither the first time you have quoted Kat Chow in a blog entry, nor the first time I have marveled at her name. Presumably, “Kat” is short for something, and presumably, the lass has a middle (or given) name to serve as an alternative. 2+2=she likes Kat Chow.

    Sullivan’s piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans

    Reality is what leftists want it to be, but only as long as they want it to be. One minute saying blacks are oppressed by YT is valid, the next making a general statement about yellows is bad Bad BAD!

    Who-whom all the way down.

    This may be the first time I’ve seen reference to the Bhutanese-American community, so Kat Chow deserves points for originality.

    Who says yellows aren’t creative?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "Sullivan’s piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans"

    OK, next time, someone like Sullivan should be more ethno-specific.

    He should have said 'Japanese-Americans' or 'Chinese-Americans'.

    'Asian-American' is too broad, like 'Latin-American'.

    But then, I'm sure Kat Chow(Chinese eat cats, so her name could mean cats-for-chow than chow-for-cats) will find some other lame excuse.

    I hear Chinese boil cats alive.

    I think Kat Chow's logic is of that ilk.
    She skins and boils it alive.

    At any rate, the fact that her ilk left Asian for a white majority nation means she prefers to live in white nation than in a nation filled with her own kind that boils cats alive.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUkgaku9FSE

  15. @anonymous
    Here is a write-up about Dog Chow, I mean Kat Chow.

    Excerpt:

    What makes you angry?

    Casual racism. Oh, sure, why don't you fling that subtle (or often, not-so-subtle) disparaging remark around and think that there won't be any sort of consequence? Joking about black names because they're "weird." Asking why Asian-Americans aren't good drivers. Et cetera. That's all stuff that's not okay and is exhausting to deal with. There's no perfect way to handle those situations, and it's always weird and awkward and unpleasant in moments where someone lets something racist slip out. Do you sit someone down and patiently and gently tell them that, um, they're saying something that's sort of racist? Someone really needs to make a recording that we can all just play in situations like this.
     

    “That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with.”

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

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    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    I don't feel no ways tired of thinking how delightful it is that we have President Donald Trump instead of President Hillary Clinton.


    Hillary Clinton Don't Feel No Ways Tired:

    https://youtu.be/Y-H9BOIYhgc
    , @fish

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.
     
    Well they've been in a near constant snit since the election.

    That would fatigue anyone!
    , @FKA Max
    They are doing it all wrong... a better SJW PR approach would be: “That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is causing shortness of breath and heart and chest pains.”

    Do diseases have a prestige hierarchy? A survey among physicians and medical students.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17850944 Album et al. (2007)

    Both diseases and specialities were clearly and consistently ranked according to prestige. Myocardial infarction, leukaemia and brain tumour were among the highest ranked, and fibromyalgia and anxiety neurosis were among the lowest.
     
    Don't Tiger SJW Parents teach their Tiger SJW Children these basic Victim Hierarchy PR techniques and strategies?!

    Amateurs!
    , @Alec Leamas

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.
     
    It's a form of argument-evasion masquerading as condescension, proposing that you're all just not learning despite her patience with you which has been worn out. See also: "wow, just wow."
    , @inertial
    I can sympathize with her Sisyphean labors. You keep explaining to people again and again that, say, Asians are not bad drivers, and yet the ignoramuses always come back with the same infuriating stereotype. Where are they getting it from?
    , @Bleuteaux
    Of course they're tired. They're vegans (grainitarians, really) who refuse to eat a diet that includes B-vitamins and is usually sugar and starch based. They also shun working out and probably all secretly hate the outdoors and fresh air. Scott Adams had a piece a few weeks ago on how SJW types need activism for the dopamine rush.
  16. @Bardon Kaldian
    Don't forget Sikkimese-Americans & Nepalese-Americans, as well as Mongol-Americans

    What about Tuvanese-Americans?

    And no stereotypes about them being throat-singers, please!

    You don’t know how exhausting it is for the Tuvanese-American community to explain that they don’t all throat sing.

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  17. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @guest
    Alternative title: "Obvious Truth of the Model Minority Non-Myth Makes Too Much Sense, Please Stop Invoking It."

    “‘Model Minority’ Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks”

    For this to be true, there has to be unity between yellows and blacks.

    Is there?

    Sullivan’s views were not a wedge. You can’t split apart what are NOT together and one to begin with.

    He just noticed the division that already exists and surmised as to why.

    Btw, whatever the economic conditions of Bhutanese-Americans(LOL) are, I highly doubt if they are dying to integrate with the brothas.

    Also, no one’s talking about ‘model minority’. We are talking about why some groups do some things better than other groups.

    Could there be cultural factors?

    If Sullivan is to be faulted, he focused on culture but didn’t mention genetic factors.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Sullivan’s views were not a wedge. You can’t split apart what are NOT together and one to begin with.
     
    Could we please avoid terms like "wedge" and "split" when discussing Killer Muscle Andrew with the "power glutes"? I was eating dinner.

    (BTW, is there a gay counterpart to the hoary joke about aspirin being the most effective contraceptive– if you hold it between your knees?)
  18. I’m pretty sure that “Kat” is the funniest name you can put in front of “Chow.”

    Alternatives?

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    • Replies: @Clark Westwood
    Remember the crash of Asiana Flight 214? Some news person got canned for not realizing that the pilots' "names" that were handed to her were a joke before she read them live on the air.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GbGmDORwk

    So now if some news reader refuses to say "Kat Chow" on the air on the grounds that such a ridiculous name has to be a joke, will that person also get canned (for insensitivity to Ms Chow and her "culture's" naming conventions)?
    , @Saint Louis
    Dick Chow?
    , @bomag
    Kant Chow

    Right Chow

    Cow Chow

    Up Chow

    Howe Chow

    Train Chow (for the alphabetic surname listing of "Chow Train")
    , @Veritatis
    Alternatively, she could sign 'How Kattee'.
    , @snorlax
    "Pussy Chow"
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    Don't know about Kat Chow, but in the small town of Bromyard, Herefordshire, is the magnificently named Shun Fat Chinese takeaway, recommended if you're on a diet.

    https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g503860-d1318871-Reviews-Shun_Fat-Bromyard_Herefordshire_England.html
  19. “That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with.”

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    It’s not a big leap to speculate that even SJWs are getting tired of SJWs’ shit.

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  20. “his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities”.

    Just imagine someone making a broad claim about straight, white, cisgendered males! Or Republicans! Kat Chow would take them to task for spreading the idea that straight, white, cisgendered males are monolithic.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    When I lived abroad, the local Vietnamese restaurant in town got closed down when inspectors found empty cases of cat food. They were serving the other-other white meat. No word on any ringworm outbreak.

    Kat Chow and other aggrieved (read, underappreciated) minorities need petting. Suffering in Silence and Anonymity while all the cool kids with their pumped up kicks have all the fun must be galling. After all, even the back row kids have been getting attention and that just isn't fair.
  22. @Steve Sailer
    "That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    I don’t feel no ways tired of thinking how delightful it is that we have President Donald Trump instead of President Hillary Clinton.

    Hillary Clinton Don’t Feel No Ways Tired:

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    My how times have changed! In my day, it used to be where a lyin' politician could do these sort of things, and there wasn't those damn phone cameras all over the place to make videos and the damn internet for people to look back and see these things.

    Back then, a politician could be a politician! What is the world coming to where an old-fashioned lyin' senator can't even pander to the coloreds without some whipersnapper seeing it 10 years later? I can't even .... not until I take my morning constitutional.
    , @black sea
    Her husband was our first African-American president, but somehow I don't think she's going to cut it as our first African-American First Lady.
    , @anonymous
    Saw this one before. Very disturbing. Even more disturbing is the knowledge that 48% of the voters actually took this woman seriously.
  23. I’ve worked with quite a few Phillppino nurses and overall I found them to be excellent nurses and friendly to me even though I was the minority in the workplace . If only they hadn’t killed Magellan . I suspect that Ms. Chow is bitter because she is yoogly .

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I read a book about Magellan last year -- it said the Philippines Army reenacts the killing of Magellan every year.
    , @Kyle a
    Former employer of mine who served during the Korean War and spent time in the Philippines informed me that Phillppno were consider the " brothers" of the Asian rim.
    , @Karl
    27 donut > If only they hadn’t killed Magellan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapu-Lapu

    during his circum-navigation, on the (extended for repairs) stopover in South America, he disciplined and even executed crew-members who violated the orders to not fraternize with foreign women (which originated from the pen of Queen Isabella herself).

    Presto-chango, they get to the Philippines, he (Magellan) settles in, gets a hard-on for rice-powered fucking machines.
  24. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Using Pussy Chow’s logic, let’s do away with the myth of ‘white privilege’ since Asians in general do better than white hillbillies dying of meth.

    Bhutanese, meet the peckerwoods.

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  25. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Massimo Heitor
    Ms. Chow is offended at the generalization of Asian Americans, so offers a counter-generalization of Bhutanese-Americans. Wow!

    Generalizations for me but not for thee.

    Kat Chow's stereotyping and bigotry towards low performing Bhutanese Americans is an attempt to drive a wedge...

    Bhutan is an obscure tiny country with less than a million people (Wikipedia says 742,737). I never heard of this country or people until now. Apparently, ~70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible.

    “Apparently, ~70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible.”

    Whose dumb idea was that?

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  26. I suspect that a more HBD-nuanced understanding of the differences between East Asians and Southeast Asians would alleviate a lot of the muddled thinking on the topic of “Asian” Americans.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "I suspect that a more HBD-nuanced understanding of the differences between East Asians and Southeast Asians would alleviate a lot of the muddled thinking on the topic of “Asian” Americans."

    True, but any honest person knows Sullivan meant East Asians(esp Japanese and Chinese, whom he mentioned specifically). Kat Chow Mein is just playing dumb... or pussy-footing.

    After all, if we say "black dominate sprinting", any honest person knows we are talking of West Africans, not Pygmies.
  27. @Lot
    http://imgur.com/a/HotIZ

    When I lived abroad, the local Vietnamese restaurant in town got closed down when inspectors found empty cases of cat food. They were serving the other-other white meat. No word on any ringworm outbreak.

    Kat Chow and other aggrieved (read, underappreciated) minorities need petting. Suffering in Silence and Anonymity while all the cool kids with their pumped up kicks have all the fun must be galling. After all, even the back row kids have been getting attention and that just isn’t fair.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    Ringworm is a fungal skin condition like athlete's foot. No idea how it could be caused by cat food.

    Canned cat food, like every other canned food, is sterilized in the canning process. I don't recommend it unless you are a cat, but a freshly opened can would be perfectly safe for humans to eat. I doubt you'd like the taste but it wouldn't affect your health.
  28. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Svigor

    She’s just trolling, right? I dare you to make an insensitive joke about the unfortunate nickname I use!
     
    This is neither the first time you have quoted Kat Chow in a blog entry, nor the first time I have marveled at her name. Presumably, "Kat" is short for something, and presumably, the lass has a middle (or given) name to serve as an alternative. 2+2=she likes Kat Chow.

    Sullivan’s piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans
     
    Reality is what leftists want it to be, but only as long as they want it to be. One minute saying blacks are oppressed by YT is valid, the next making a general statement about yellows is bad Bad BAD!

    Who-whom all the way down.

    This may be the first time I’ve seen reference to the Bhutanese-American community, so Kat Chow deserves points for originality.
     
    Who says yellows aren't creative?

    “Sullivan’s piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans”

    OK, next time, someone like Sullivan should be more ethno-specific.

    He should have said ‘Japanese-Americans’ or ‘Chinese-Americans’.

    ‘Asian-American’ is too broad, like ‘Latin-American’.

    But then, I’m sure Kat Chow(Chinese eat cats, so her name could mean cats-for-chow than chow-for-cats) will find some other lame excuse.

    I hear Chinese boil cats alive.

    I think Kat Chow’s logic is of that ilk.
    She skins and boils it alive.

    At any rate, the fact that her ilk left Asian for a white majority nation means she prefers to live in white nation than in a nation filled with her own kind that boils cats alive.

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  29. Are Bhutanese actually Asians or some sort of Indian Sry Lankan subset of Caucasians? Or is Ms Meow Mix doing the British thing of claiming everyone east of Greece is Asian?

    Asians realize that affirmative action gives college admissions, middle class jobs, mortgages, SBA loans etc. not to the qualified but to the dumbest, criminal non White underclasses in America.

    So why not go for useless minority status?

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  30. @Steve Sailer
    "That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    Well they’ve been in a near constant snit since the election.

    That would fatigue anyone!

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  31. OT but Steve got his wish cops at auburn vigorously enforced the no mask law at the Richard Spenser speech.

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  32. @Bardon Kaldian
    Don't forget Sikkimese-Americans & Nepalese-Americans, as well as Mongol-Americans

    Hey Bardon, good to see you commenting. OT what would you recommend for some books to learn more about central and Eastern European history?
    Thanks

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  33. @Anon
    "Apparently, ~70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible."

    Whose dumb idea was that?

    Lutheran Social Services

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  34. @Steve Sailer
    "That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    They are doing it all wrong… a better SJW PR approach would be: “That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is causing shortness of breath and heart and chest pains.”

    Do diseases have a prestige hierarchy? A survey among physicians and medical students.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17850944 Album et al. (2007)

    Both diseases and specialities were clearly and consistently ranked according to prestige. Myocardial infarction, leukaemia and brain tumour were among the highest ranked, and fibromyalgia and anxiety neurosis were among the lowest.

    Don’t Tiger SJW Parents teach their Tiger SJW Children these basic Victim Hierarchy PR techniques and strategies?!

    Amateurs!

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  35. “…his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities.”

    Kat Chow, who is other than the cat’s meow, is not related to Pussy Galore. On one hand, she is accurate to note that there are major differences between Asian groups. The educational attainment of Asian-American subgroups is markedly different. On the other hand, like her counterparts on the Alt Right, she has an overall racial and ethnic agenda.

    Now, ought colleges and universities move toward nuanced data collection to identify the unique problems for Asian-American subgroups, not all of which are doing as well as the “model minority” narrative suggests?

    OR, should these institutions continue to lump all Asians together to push the agenda that this group as a whole is smarter on average than whites, but prone to being beta simps in the relationship department?

    Such daunting questions that your average white American is no doubt pondering as we speak while eating at Panda Express.

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    • Replies: @Yak-15
    Yes, since I am partially a member of one of the Asian subgroups that isn't doing as well as eastern Asians. I want free stuff, free tutition for my children, guaranteed entrance into Stanfors and access to minority government contracts.

    GIMME!
  36. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Yan Shen
    I suspect that a more HBD-nuanced understanding of the differences between East Asians and Southeast Asians would alleviate a lot of the muddled thinking on the topic of "Asian" Americans.

    “I suspect that a more HBD-nuanced understanding of the differences between East Asians and Southeast Asians would alleviate a lot of the muddled thinking on the topic of “Asian” Americans.”

    True, but any honest person knows Sullivan meant East Asians(esp Japanese and Chinese, whom he mentioned specifically). Kat Chow Mein is just playing dumb… or pussy-footing.

    After all, if we say “black dominate sprinting”, any honest person knows we are talking of West Africans, not Pygmies.

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    • Replies: @Travis
    good point...Sullivan was clearly writing about Orientals but for some reason this legitimate descriptive word to describe people from East Asia is now considered politically incorrect..I honestly do not know the reason Oriental can no longer be used to describe people from the Orient
  37. @Svigor
    I'm pretty sure that "Kat" is the funniest name you can put in front of "Chow."

    Alternatives?

    Remember the crash of Asiana Flight 214? Some news person got canned for not realizing that the pilots’ “names” that were handed to her were a joke before she read them live on the air.

    So now if some news reader refuses to say “Kat Chow” on the air on the grounds that such a ridiculous name has to be a joke, will that person also get canned (for insensitivity to Ms Chow and her “culture’s” naming conventions)?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Kat is usually short for Katherine - it's often kind of a preppy nickname. I wonder if Ms. Kat Chow is appropriating an American name. Hmmm. Not cool if she is.
    , @Alden
    Reminds me when the Chinese invaded San Francisco in the late 1970's a lot of them attended my sons middle school
    He showed me one kid in the yearbook. His name was Woo Suk Dong. There was a UCLA girl named Phat Ho pronounced fat.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    That still makes me laugh!
  38. Bhutan refugees and blacks are getting along just swimmingly.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/07/bhutanese-nepalese-refugees-african-american-rochester-violence/10171583/

    Rather, he says, the violent and misplaced anger he feels toward African Americans has been building for years in this small community of perhaps a few thousand South Asian refugees living in small pockets of northwest Rochester near and in Jones Square. The anger is fueled, he and more than a dozen other residents interviewed say, by hundreds of incidents of robbery and violent and verbal bullying in recent years.
    And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class:
    They wanted to go to war with the black community.
    “African-Americans are targeting them, and there is just so much of this they are going to take,” said Bill Wischmeyer, an advocate for the refugee community known as “Mr. Bill.”

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    • Replies: @Anon
    If that is the truth, why do Asians like Kat Chow neglect the plight of Bhutanese who are being harassed by blacks?

    Btw, what is a mixed Asian? Meow Mix?

    What did Kat Chow's parents feed her as a child?

    Nine Lies?

    , @Buffalo Joe
    Ed, I find it amazingly insightful that refugees from the Top of the World, who probably never interacted with blacks, resettle into Rochester NY and become racists. See how quickly whites can teach you to hate blacks. Otherwise, what happened here?
    , @Tom-in-VA
    Aren't the Gurkhas from Nepal? These are people with whom I would not fuck.
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    They just need to be educated that blacks are fellow oppressed "people of color" with whom they have more in common with than either with the hated privileged white oppressor.
    , @Triumph104
    Something ain't right in Rochester, NY. In 2010 the national high school graduation rate was 74.7%. In Rochester, the 2010 high school graduation rate for black males was 9%, Hispanic males 10%, and white males 31%.
    , @Alden
    So, Bhutanese and Whites have a lot in common. Both are murdered, raped, robbed, beaten bullied and harassed by blacks.
  39. Not to get too deep into the obvious here, but isn’t a group of Asian-American’s that are universally less successful than other groups of Asian-Americans the exception that proves the point? Is her assertion that the white male power structure decided to do a bunch of really nuanced research to learn how to tell Bhutanese-Americans from Chinese and Japanese Americans just to make the Bhutanese into disadvantaged bodies? How is she missing the obvious implication of her argument? Don’t answer the last bit.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    Not to get too deep into the obvious here, but isn’t a group of Asian-American’s that are universally less successful than other groups of Asian-Americans the exception that proves the point?

    Yes, it is the exception that proves the rule of the 1.2 billion strong ethnostate, its SE Asian diaspora plus 120M Japanese. Probably 1.4B+ people. Miss Chow doth protest too much. (*Yeah, whites have Albanians too.)

    The thought that white people are going to be forever cowed by PC and not reassert claims to territory is a lot like the thought that pig's blood is going to be an effective deterrent to Muslims - wishful thinking.

    * https://jakubmarian.com/average-iq-in-europe-by-country-map/
  40. Bhutanese-Americans? Isn’t that one of the least populated places in Asian, and hence probably a place from where maybe a few tens of thousands of people in America can trace their descent?

    What an awful burden it must be to be held in high regard in modern America, where status is related to how many victim points one can amass.

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  41. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @anonymous
    Here is a write-up about Dog Chow, I mean Kat Chow.

    Excerpt:

    What makes you angry?

    Casual racism. Oh, sure, why don't you fling that subtle (or often, not-so-subtle) disparaging remark around and think that there won't be any sort of consequence? Joking about black names because they're "weird." Asking why Asian-Americans aren't good drivers. Et cetera. That's all stuff that's not okay and is exhausting to deal with. There's no perfect way to handle those situations, and it's always weird and awkward and unpleasant in moments where someone lets something racist slip out. Do you sit someone down and patiently and gently tell them that, um, they're saying something that's sort of racist? Someone really needs to make a recording that we can all just play in situations like this.
     

    “Joking about black names because they’re “weird.” Asking why Asian-Americans aren’t good drivers. Et cetera. That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with.”

    What is she talking about?

    This sounds like TV shows, movies, and comedies.

    In real life, people tend to be sensitive about that stuff.

    It’s in entertainment(all run by Libs) that we see all these stereotypes.

    In real life, how many white people ask a black woman, “why is your name Booticallisha?”

    White folks know how touchy black folks are.

    It is usually blacks who ‘dis’ other blacks in entertainment.

    And all ethnic comedians play up the stereotypes.

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  42. This might be the hundredth time over the decades I’ve read this general “But what about” argument from an aggrieved Asian-American activist

    So, are the going rate and quality of these both headed south with the flooded market?

    Or, like Japanese cameras and cars, are they incrementally improving and getting more expensive?

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  43. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Ed
    Bhutan refugees and blacks are getting along just swimmingly.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/07/bhutanese-nepalese-refugees-african-american-rochester-violence/10171583/

    Rather, he says, the violent and misplaced anger he feels toward African Americans has been building for years in this small community of perhaps a few thousand South Asian refugees living in small pockets of northwest Rochester near and in Jones Square. The anger is fueled, he and more than a dozen other residents interviewed say, by hundreds of incidents of robbery and violent and verbal bullying in recent years.
    And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class:
    They wanted to go to war with the black community.
    "African-Americans are targeting them, and there is just so much of this they are going to take," said Bill Wischmeyer, an advocate for the refugee community known as "Mr. Bill."

    If that is the truth, why do Asians like Kat Chow neglect the plight of Bhutanese who are being harassed by blacks?

    Btw, what is a mixed Asian? Meow Mix?

    What did Kat Chow’s parents feed her as a child?

    Nine Lies?

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Yeah,it's a stupid name. But she is,I believe,trying to make a larger point.
    I assume that the word "chow" entered the language as a result of heteronormative cisgendered American soldiers appropriating some Asian word for food. This racist language
  44. @Steve Sailer
    "That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    It’s a form of argument-evasion masquerading as condescension, proposing that you’re all just not learning despite her patience with you which has been worn out. See also: “wow, just wow.”

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  45. The Bhutanese refugees are ethnic Nepalis from whom Bhutan was ethnically cleansed. Hence the “the happiest country on earth” propaganda. Largely Hindu (remainder Buddhist), hence not as worthy of sympathy as the Muslim Rohingya, whose situation is otherwise similar (Aryan/North Indians removed from predominantly Sino-Tibetan regions, namely Bhutan and Myanmar, respectively). The able-bodied were moved largely to the US (e.g. Rochester NY), while those with physical disabilities were moved to Regina, Saskatchewan.

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    • Replies: @DaveA
    If your country has a bothersome ethnic minority, now is the ideal time to get rid of them. Normally people will fight to the death to stay on their ancestral land, the alternative being death by starvation as homeless beggars. Today however, victims of ethnic cleansing get to live in rich countries and collect welfare benefits forever, so they might just pack up and leave without a fight.
    , @Eagle Eye
    Both Nepalese and Bhutanese are of Tibetan stock and speak Sino-Tibetan languages.

    Bhutan unlike Nepal does not currently seem to be infected with competing cults of 1970s communism (Maoists vs. Leninists). Aggressive political and business practices is probably why Bhutan decided the Nepalese had to go.

    Like all self-regarding ethnic minorities, the Bhutan Nepalese would never consider returning to their fair ancestral land and instead opted to join the welfare class in Rochester, New York, courtesy of Community Organizer Barry.

    Count on a rising generation of Bhutan-Nepalese SJW infesting America's third-rate colleges and teacher training schools (but I repeat myself).

    Meanwhile, the Bhutanese no doubt congratulate themselves each time they read about the meowings of Kat Chow and her co-ethnics in far-away America. Bhutan had a narrow escape this time.

  46. @donut
    I read somewhere that they tend to discourage tourism as well .

    I read somewhere that they tend to discourage tourism as well .

    Mass tourism. They’re now encouraging the selective, high-price kind.

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  47. Let me guess. Her husband’s first name is Dog, whose penchant for the unspeakable ‘chow down’ technique of keeping doggie-daddy caddie-happy keeps Kat ‘in the house’. Her canine master is only too glad to sign on to her kat-fight clawing, scratching and hair pulling.

    Kat, she is the daughter of “Chow and Lie” inaccurately rendered as Chou-En-Lai, the right-hand man of Chairman Meow, China’s greatest mass murderer. But Chow and Lie seduced the whore Richard Nixon, and the seductress descended directly from the seductor. And she plies her wares at NPR.

    So there.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    NPR? But of course; the blathering that all Asians are not the same but Whites don't know this has been recycled again and again for the last 40 years. The worst is the assumption that Whites are so ignorant we don't know there are many ethnicities in Asia.

    And we're supposed to hang our heads in shame and intone my fault my fault my most grievous fault for whatever we did, said or thought.
    , @Bosch
    Highly verbal Asian whose parents were lax enough that she didn't go to medical school and wound up working at NPR? Yeah, I'm guessing her husband's name is something like Robert. Or Keith.
  48. A relevant comment that I saw on the Inet: If you want to know who’s on the bottom of the social heap, observe who it’s always safe to criticize or vilify.

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  49. This logic works in the opposite direction, rifgt? For example, next time someone complains that African-Americans are poor you can counter it with, “But what about the Kenyan-Hawaiian-Americans? Those are rich.”

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  50. @Anon
    "‘Model Minority’ Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks"

    For this to be true, there has to be unity between yellows and blacks.

    Is there?

    Sullivan's views were not a wedge. You can't split apart what are NOT together and one to begin with.

    He just noticed the division that already exists and surmised as to why.

    Btw, whatever the economic conditions of Bhutanese-Americans(LOL) are, I highly doubt if they are dying to integrate with the brothas.

    Also, no one's talking about 'model minority'. We are talking about why some groups do some things better than other groups.

    Could there be cultural factors?

    If Sullivan is to be faulted, he focused on culture but didn't mention genetic factors.

    Sullivan’s views were not a wedge. You can’t split apart what are NOT together and one to begin with.

    Could we please avoid terms like “wedge” and “split” when discussing Killer Muscle Andrew with the “power glutes”? I was eating dinner.

    (BTW, is there a gay counterpart to the hoary joke about aspirin being the most effective contraceptive– if you hold it between your knees?)

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Your Pavlovian obsessions are not our problem.

    Jesus, you should see someone (The Departed)
  51. During the LA riots, white country music stars, such as Garth Brooks and Alan Jackson, were encouraging their fellow white racists to loot and burn down Korean businesses. Thankfully, militant black rappers, such as Ice Cube, were there to show their solidarity with the yellow man. It was obviously the evil white man who was poisoning race relations in Los Angeles.

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  52. This makes liberalism even stupider. Most Americans don’t know the difference between different variety of Asians and they all look alike, yet somehow “racism” allows some to succeed while others fail? Why do they think this helps them?

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  53. I doubt Kat Chow is her real name; probably more like Katherine. She probably shortened it to Kat so people would laugh and she would have another day of feeling dissed but superior.

    Yet another reason to defund NPR: http://www.npr.org/people/177498105/kat-chow

    The videos of the cops at Auburn telling the Antifa morons to lose the masks are great. Big white guys with night sticks saying, “Take off the mask or get arrested. Your choice”.

    http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/04/18/auburn-takes-berkeley-to-school-as-police-unmask-anti-fascists-outside-richard-spencer-speech/

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  54. @anonymous
    Here is a write-up about Dog Chow, I mean Kat Chow.

    Excerpt:

    What makes you angry?

    Casual racism. Oh, sure, why don't you fling that subtle (or often, not-so-subtle) disparaging remark around and think that there won't be any sort of consequence? Joking about black names because they're "weird." Asking why Asian-Americans aren't good drivers. Et cetera. That's all stuff that's not okay and is exhausting to deal with. There's no perfect way to handle those situations, and it's always weird and awkward and unpleasant in moments where someone lets something racist slip out. Do you sit someone down and patiently and gently tell them that, um, they're saying something that's sort of racist? Someone really needs to make a recording that we can all just play in situations like this.
     

    Anonymous, of course the names D’Brickishaw. Barkevious and Shitavious are now so common among blacks that you really have to accept them, not mock them.

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  55. Frankfurt School PC was a massive gift to East Asians – maybe like the treaty signed by the Wampanoag with the Pilgrims. That giant slurping sound is the drinking of the carefully prepared Jewish milkshake. How long will it go on?

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  56. “… generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, …

    Yes, of course they’re diverse if you’re gonna call them “Asian-Americans“. That’s why I use the term Oriental. Orientals CAN be successfully stereotyped in the way that Andrew Sullivan did, so what’s your problem, Meow Mix?

    “Asians” are vastly diverse, because Asia is a big fricking continent, the biggest in fact. I know I’ve been through this before, and I shouldn’t have to take time to write this again. Asia has Moslem jihadis; it has Russian steppe people (huh?); it has Orientals, it has Uighurs; it has Persians, it has Indians (of the tech-support variety); lastly, not forgotten are the Bangladouches.

    I don’t like this broad, as I was always a Friskys fan anyway. (Miss Frisky, least that’s what this very friendly Chinese lady called herself, took me up on deck and bit my neck while on the Peking Ferry. People, I was glad I found her.)

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    • Replies: @guest
    You've been through that before,and I've brought this up before: Oriental is less specific than Asian. It covers the entire Eastern Hemisphere. You might say that it connotes East Asian, but so does Asian, in this context.
  57. @Ivy
    When I lived abroad, the local Vietnamese restaurant in town got closed down when inspectors found empty cases of cat food. They were serving the other-other white meat. No word on any ringworm outbreak.

    Kat Chow and other aggrieved (read, underappreciated) minorities need petting. Suffering in Silence and Anonymity while all the cool kids with their pumped up kicks have all the fun must be galling. After all, even the back row kids have been getting attention and that just isn't fair.

    Ringworm is a fungal skin condition like athlete’s foot. No idea how it could be caused by cat food.

    Canned cat food, like every other canned food, is sterilized in the canning process. I don’t recommend it unless you are a cat, but a freshly opened can would be perfectly safe for humans to eat. I doubt you’d like the taste but it wouldn’t affect your health.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, Rest your eyes for a bit. They feed the cats cat food to fatten them up...then serve cats as part of your dinner.
    , @Ivy
    Jack - Ringworm - throwaway line on cat theme, obviously not literally in the cat food. That happens from time to time.
  58. Jaime Buoille on Slate wrote almost the same article. Model minority, tired of hearing it so it must be false. Also some asians are poor too.

    Doesn’t the fact that some asian cultural groups are poor undermine their argument that clearly racism is the cause of disparities? I mean the alternative is to assume that American quickly researched an obscure Vietnamese hill people and arbitrarily selected a negative stereotype for them

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  59. @Steve Sailer
    "That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    I can sympathize with her Sisyphean labors. You keep explaining to people again and again that, say, Asians are not bad drivers, and yet the ignoramuses always come back with the same infuriating stereotype. Where are they getting it from?

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  60. @Ed
    Bhutan refugees and blacks are getting along just swimmingly.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/07/bhutanese-nepalese-refugees-african-american-rochester-violence/10171583/

    Rather, he says, the violent and misplaced anger he feels toward African Americans has been building for years in this small community of perhaps a few thousand South Asian refugees living in small pockets of northwest Rochester near and in Jones Square. The anger is fueled, he and more than a dozen other residents interviewed say, by hundreds of incidents of robbery and violent and verbal bullying in recent years.
    And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class:
    They wanted to go to war with the black community.
    "African-Americans are targeting them, and there is just so much of this they are going to take," said Bill Wischmeyer, an advocate for the refugee community known as "Mr. Bill."

    Ed, I find it amazingly insightful that refugees from the Top of the World, who probably never interacted with blacks, resettle into Rochester NY and become racists. See how quickly whites can teach you to hate blacks. Otherwise, what happened here?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Maybe refugee resettlement program drops those people like water on a forest fire.

    Negroes are the fire, refugees are supposed to be the water.
    , @Pericles
    What if I told you it's not Magic Dirt ... it's Racist Dirt!
  61. @Jack D
    Ringworm is a fungal skin condition like athlete's foot. No idea how it could be caused by cat food.

    Canned cat food, like every other canned food, is sterilized in the canning process. I don't recommend it unless you are a cat, but a freshly opened can would be perfectly safe for humans to eat. I doubt you'd like the taste but it wouldn't affect your health.

    Jack, Rest your eyes for a bit. They feed the cats cat food to fatten them up…then serve cats as part of your dinner.

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    That's even more far fetched. Chicken is really cheap because they eat really cheap food and convert it to meat in a matter of weeks. Do you know how much expensive cat food you need to grow a lb. of cat?
  62. @Svigor
    I'm pretty sure that "Kat" is the funniest name you can put in front of "Chow."

    Alternatives?

    Dick Chow?

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  63. @Massimo Heitor
    Ms. Chow is offended at the generalization of Asian Americans, so offers a counter-generalization of Bhutanese-Americans. Wow!

    Generalizations for me but not for thee.

    Kat Chow's stereotyping and bigotry towards low performing Bhutanese Americans is an attempt to drive a wedge...

    Bhutan is an obscure tiny country with less than a million people (Wikipedia says 742,737). I never heard of this country or people until now. Apparently, ~70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible.

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    • Replies: @donut
    Nepalese flag from Numberphile :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Gne3UHKHs
  64. @Charles Pewitt
    I don't feel no ways tired of thinking how delightful it is that we have President Donald Trump instead of President Hillary Clinton.


    Hillary Clinton Don't Feel No Ways Tired:

    https://youtu.be/Y-H9BOIYhgc

    My how times have changed! In my day, it used to be where a lyin’ politician could do these sort of things, and there wasn’t those damn phone cameras all over the place to make videos and the damn internet for people to look back and see these things.

    Back then, a politician could be a politician! What is the world coming to where an old-fashioned lyin’ senator can’t even pander to the coloreds without some whipersnapper seeing it 10 years later? I can’t even …. not until I take my morning constitutional.

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  65. @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    The Queen of Bhutan is very pretty, and the King looks like Asian Elvis.

    http://i.imgur.com/HsnyS.jpg

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    • Replies: @Glaivester
    The queen looks a little like Julia Nickson (Catherine Sakai from Babylon 5).
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    So, I am guessing your f\/cking prohibition does not apply to the Queen.
  66. @Ed
    Bhutan refugees and blacks are getting along just swimmingly.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/07/bhutanese-nepalese-refugees-african-american-rochester-violence/10171583/

    Rather, he says, the violent and misplaced anger he feels toward African Americans has been building for years in this small community of perhaps a few thousand South Asian refugees living in small pockets of northwest Rochester near and in Jones Square. The anger is fueled, he and more than a dozen other residents interviewed say, by hundreds of incidents of robbery and violent and verbal bullying in recent years.
    And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class:
    They wanted to go to war with the black community.
    "African-Americans are targeting them, and there is just so much of this they are going to take," said Bill Wischmeyer, an advocate for the refugee community known as "Mr. Bill."

    Aren’t the Gurkhas from Nepal? These are people with whom I would not fuck.

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    • Replies: @Karl
    72 Tom-in-VA > Aren’t the Gurkhas from Nepal? These are people with whom I would not fuck


    for a really long time, CINCFifthFleet used Ghurkas as the outer ring of guards at Naval Support Activity Bahrain. A US Marine there told me: "do not fuck with those guys".

    By the way, a New York Jewish guy was doing the crewing of the Gurkhas, under contract.

    Nowadays, the "outer ring" is one Bahraini carabinieri; usually glued to his smartphone

    , @anon
    Australian troops who served with Gurkhas as peacekeepers in East Timor considered them poor soldiers- they are just too dumb.
    The British used them because of an unusual characteristic: unlike white people who are not psychopaths, the Nepalese never get tired of killing other people.
    Disagreements that would resolve uneventfully in the West, frequently result in murder in Nepal.

    Ethnically, these people are Tibetans, Tibet used to be much bigger in the past.
    America has NFL and the Super Bowl, Nepal has the Gadhimai Festival.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2852739/Nepal-devotees-sacrifice-thousands-animals-Hindu-ritual.html.
    Removing these people from their homelands to the U.S. for humanitarian reasons just doesn't make any sense.

  67. @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, Rest your eyes for a bit. They feed the cats cat food to fatten them up...then serve cats as part of your dinner.

    That’s even more far fetched. Chicken is really cheap because they eat really cheap food and convert it to meat in a matter of weeks. Do you know how much expensive cat food you need to grow a lb. of cat?

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    One of my old neighborhoods (tail end of Carter Admin years) had numerous boat people refugees from Cambodia. The stray cats disappeared, along with the nasturtium leaves, which were apparently a delicacy. Different standards in different cultures but I draw the line at cats, bugs and such.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Right, Chickens literally eat chicken feed.

    Speaking of which, in the early oughts, I applied to MBA programs at a handful of top-20 schools. The only one I got an interview with was Columbia, thanks, I think, to an essay I wrote where I praised the value of diversity.

    Before my interview with one of their alumni, I looked the guy up. The only thing I found on him on was a lawsuit or criminal complaint (I forget which) accusing him of some nefarious business related to chicken feed.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Jack, see my reply to Buffalo Joe.
  68. OT:

    Crime – Sacto 911
    April 19, 2017 11:55 AM
    Woman pleads guilty in Davis mosque vandalism

    Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article145520054.html#storylink=cpy

    Davis is home to UC Davis, you could think of it as a mini, more rural, cleaner, whiter, mellower, but much hotter Berkeley. Given the Central Valley location the university has a strong agriculture focus, and the veterinary school and clinic are highly regarded.

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    Davis is home to UC Davis, you could think of it as a mini, more rural, cleaner, whiter, mellower, but much hotter Berkeley.
     
    UC Davis is barely "whiter" than Cal. Collegedata dot com give the white demographics at each school as 31.6% and 31.2%, respectively. In the Welcome to the Aggie family booklet my son got this spring we counted a total of two white males out of the forty or so students shown.
  69. You’d think if one’s name is Katherine or Kathleen or Katrina Chow you’d want to go by Kathy or Kate to avoid the mockery.

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    • Replies: @George
    Her given name is Katelin Chow.

    KateChow was taken along with Lin Chow, so what was she supposed to do with all the other high level domain names taken?

    http://katchow.com/

    FWIW, I think it does give her more mind share at less cost than any name site I have seen. And there is a one in a billion chance of Purina buying the domain name for serious money.
  70. The other thread is pretty far down now, so more on M. Shadee Malaklou here:

    http://beloitcollegeroundtable.com/2016/10/24/new-professor-m-shadee-malaklou-teaches-revolution/

    New professor M. Shadee Malaklou teaches revolution
    OCT 24, 2016by LILLIE HERBSTin FEATURES
    Critical Identities Studies professor M. Shadee Malaklou seeks to fight injustice in the Beloit College and community. Pondering questions of gender, sexuality and race as they intersect with power has been a lifelong personal pursuit of Malaklou’s. Her childhood experiences with issues of identity led her to question how people treat others based on gender, sexuality, and race. While growing up in Orange County, Calif., her grandmother came from Iran to help raise her — and cultures clashed.

    One particular experience from kindergarten has stuck with her. “I had this girl who I thought was my best friend. … She had always given me crucifix necklaces that would remind me how we were different in some way. And I remember I really coveted the crucifix necklaces because it felt like a little bit of whiteness that I was getting,” she continued. “Then, after we had been friends for a little bit all of a sudden one day at recess she was like if you want to continue to be my friend you can’t speak that language to your grandmother, you can’t talk to her when she talks to you, you should dye your hair blonde, and wear blue contacts, you should bring normal foods to school, and I was just desperate to be her friend that I wanted so much to be read as white that I said yes. And so for like three days I did not speak to my grandmother. It literally still is a trauma that I deal with. Because I think here is this one woman who gave me all of my love, she’s the place I got all my support from because my mother couldn’t give it to me. And I was so quick and so ready to betray her because I wanted so much to be the person this girl was describing. So I think that I have literally spent my entire life trying to understand why I said yes to her.”

    …By critically engaging with intersections of identity and power, she hopes education can inspire her students to create social change. “I want them to fuck shit up,” she said. “I want them to literally learn how to destroy the world that they knew and think about new sociality, new worldliness, and about ways of connecting to each other and to living things.”

    These people all had unhappy childhoods and are all nucking futs and they are imposing their mishegos (that’s an Iranian word for nuttiness) on the rest of us. Wouldn’t it have been better for her and her grandma to all have stayed in Iran where there are no blondes to make her feel ashamed of her brownness?

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    • Replies: @Anoni
    I'd bet any amount of money that that didn't happen.
    , @black sea
    M Shadee Malaklou would have been better assigned to Creative Writing courses, not that she's talented in that area, but it appears to be what she's building her careeer on.

    How many kindergarten kids have access to an unlimited supply of crucifix necklaces?

    How many kindergarten kids advise their peers to dye their hair a certain color, any color?

    How many kindergarten kids are aware of the existence of blue contact lenses, or demand that their "friends" start wearning them?

    I'm sorry, but this piece of damaged human goods just dreamed up a traumatic childhood scenario in order to justify her own misplaced rage. Kids can obviously be unkind and unsubtle, but I just don't believe the examples she trotted out here are anything other than fourth-rate fictions. She's gambling that -- due to the climate of willful stupidity and PC enforcement within academia -- people will at least pretend to believe her.

    , @Alden
    Iranians are White. They know it and in no way do they identify with any non White group. Although they mostly have dark hair they are not particularly dark skinned.

    What a liar how many crucifix necklaces could one 5 year old have to give away. The tale reminds me of Tiger Wood's tale that in kindergarten he was attacked and tied to a tree by evil White 6 graders.

    His kindergarten teacher said it never happened. But everyone who attended an American school knew it was a lie because the kindergarten is separate from the rest of the school and the kindergarten yards are surrounded by locked fences.

    Lots of 40 year old high school and college teachers tell students that segregation didn't end until about 2000 and that when they were young they were denied service in a bar or restaurant or denied lodging in a hotel or denied a rental car because they were black.

    It's all lies of course but that is what is taught, lies upon lies upon lies.

    , @donut
    The AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC. thingy needs another option , I'm thinking "gobsmacked" might be a good choice to offer .
    , @Bosch
    This is drek.

    I've known more than my share of Persians and they're all about as ethnic as slightly eccentric Italians.
  71. @anonymous
    Here is a write-up about Dog Chow, I mean Kat Chow.

    Excerpt:

    What makes you angry?

    Casual racism. Oh, sure, why don't you fling that subtle (or often, not-so-subtle) disparaging remark around and think that there won't be any sort of consequence? Joking about black names because they're "weird." Asking why Asian-Americans aren't good drivers. Et cetera. That's all stuff that's not okay and is exhausting to deal with. There's no perfect way to handle those situations, and it's always weird and awkward and unpleasant in moments where someone lets something racist slip out. Do you sit someone down and patiently and gently tell them that, um, they're saying something that's sort of racist? Someone really needs to make a recording that we can all just play in situations like this.
     

    Maybe if she explained why Asians are such bad drivers people would stop asking…

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    I suspect it could have to do with myopia. But I think they don't necessarily cause more accidents. So, I guess, bad but relatively safe drivers?:

    Comparison of visual reaction time [VRT] in myopic subjects with emmetropic subjects

    http://www.ejmanager.com/mnstemps/28/28-1471505995.pdf

    Conclusion:
    The myopic people have greater reaction time than emmetropic people even though when their refractive error is corrected. This adds refractive error as a new member in the row of factors that affects the VRT.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1765219

    ETHNICITY PLAYS ROLE IN VISION PROBLEMS, RESEARCH SUGGESTS

    In this study, 18.5 percent of the Asian children were nearsighted -- thats more than four times the number of nearsighted white children (4.4 percent); three times the number of [near]sighted African American children (6.6 percent); and one-and-a-half times the number of nearsighted Hispanic children (13.2 percent.)

    On the flip side, nearly one in five white children (19.3 percent) were farsighted -- three times the number of both farsighted Asian children (6.3 percent) and farsighted African-American children (6.4 percent), and one-and-a-half times the number of farsighted Hispanic children (12.7 percent).

    Astigmatism ran fairly high in each group, with Hispanic children having the highest prevalence (37 percent), followed by Asian children (34 percent), white children (26 percent) and, finally, African-American children (20 percent.)
     

    - https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/cleere.htm

    The Sun Is the Best Optometrist

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/opinion/21wang.html

    This leads us to a recommendation that may satisfy tiger and soccer moms alike: if your child is going to stick his nose in a book this summer, get him to do it outdoors.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1765016

    The myopia boom

    Short-sightedness is reaching epidemic proportions. Some scientists think they have found a reason why.

    http://www.nature.com/news/the-myopia-boom-1.17120
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1768329
  72. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sullivan’s views were not a wedge. You can’t split apart what are NOT together and one to begin with.
     
    Could we please avoid terms like "wedge" and "split" when discussing Killer Muscle Andrew with the "power glutes"? I was eating dinner.

    (BTW, is there a gay counterpart to the hoary joke about aspirin being the most effective contraceptive– if you hold it between your knees?)

    Your Pavlovian obsessions are not our problem.

    Jesus, you should see someone (The Departed)

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    Your Pavlovian obsessions are not our problem
     
    I'm just amazed anyone thinks Andrew Sullivan is relevant in 2017. He belongs in the 90s file drawer with Vincent Foster and Sheryl Crow.
  73. I’m going to stand up for the Bhutanese (not the refugees, who are technically Bhutanese only under our laws).

    Bhutan does what we wish we could do.

    It keeps its culture and society intact by charging a large fee to all visitors, and discourages casual tourism. It has had a succession of enlightened rulers, who’ve made life as tolerable as possible in a traditional economy, and kept its independence wedged between two large, voracious neighbors, India (which annexed neighboring Sikkim in the 1970s) and China (which annexed neighboring Tibet in the 1950s) by keeping outsiders out, insofar as possible.

    They have this concept called the Gross National Happiness.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/world/asia/bhutan-gross-national-happiness-indicator-.html?_r=0

    These so-called Bhutanese “refugees” are actually non-Bhutanese speaking Nepalese illegal Lhotsampa immigrants whom the Bhutanese are in the process of have expelling or for whom the Bhutanese have made life very uncomfortable.

    Presumably, the presence of large numbers of illegal immigrants speaking a foreign language lowered the Gross National Happiness.

    The Nepalese started filtering into Bhutan mid-20th century.

    According to Wikipedia,

    In the 1940s, the British Political Officer Sir Basil Gould…warned…Bhutan House of the potential danger of allowing so many ethnic Nepalese to settle in southern Bhutan, he replied that “since they were not registered subjects they could be evicted whenever the need arose.”

    While this is a deplorable thing for Bhutan to do to the wretched refuse on Bhutan’s land-locked shores, I find not entirely incomprehensible. The real question here is, who had the bright idea of espousing the cause of these refugees and bringing them over to America, instead of settling them back in Nepal, in the midst of their culture and kith and kin?

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    India (which annexed neighboring Sikkim in the 1970s) and China (which annexed neighboring Tibet in the 1950s) by keeping outsiders out, insofar as possible.
     
    Good comment in general, but you are positing an equivalence here between India and China which the Bhutanese themselves don't accept. As far as I know, they have zero relations with China. India, on the other hand, is one of the handful of countries they have an embassy in. Indians are one of the handful of people who don't need a visa to visit Bhutan (though all tourist visits are packaged and priced quite steeply.) Bhutan is a member of the (mostly useless) SAARC. Their foreign/world policy is to some extent outsourced to India, which acts as a benign protector.

    India may have annexed Sikkim, but it was at Sikkimese request. Generally, countries in this part of the world prefer to avoid submitting to China if possible.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Good question. Probably because the Nepalese didn't want them back, so just truck these surplus humans off to the North American landfill and dump them there. Of course, the geography is different, the culture is different, they have ZERO connection to the history and mythos, and they will be resentful and uncomfortable--a number will commit suicide. After a couple of generations the surviving kids will out-marry and play their own role in developing the Kwa anti-culture.

    And there you have it--from traditional Buddhist village life to soulless, atomized secularism in 3 - 4 generations. When their distinctive genotype goes extinct, we'll find another batch of exotics to toss into the soup.

    It's pathological and rapacious, as if everybody in the world must eventually become American.

    , @Anonymous
    Other than a sense of ethnic-national unity by keeping close ties, there's nothing else to be praising Bhutan which is a theocracy disguised legally as a constitutional parliamentary monarchy. A undeveloped, weak (despite their geographic advantage) and high isolationist country with harsh persecution of minorities (in case nepalese) is common and also adopts something as dubious and as "1984"-like cartoonish notion as Gross National Happiness isn't to be taken as serious and peaceful. Although I don't doubt people in Bhutan in general are "happy", peaceful and used to the lifestyle there as much as the north koreans are with the Kim Dynasty and all of that is of their concern, not of anyone else, Bhutan is far from this paradise on Earth or simply a good example of how countries should behave.
  74. @donut
    I've worked with quite a few Phillppino nurses and overall I found them to be excellent nurses and friendly to me even though I was the minority in the workplace . If only they hadn't killed Magellan . I suspect that Ms. Chow is bitter because she is yoogly .

    I read a book about Magellan last year — it said the Philippines Army reenacts the killing of Magellan every year.

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  75. @Jack D
    That's even more far fetched. Chicken is really cheap because they eat really cheap food and convert it to meat in a matter of weeks. Do you know how much expensive cat food you need to grow a lb. of cat?

    One of my old neighborhoods (tail end of Carter Admin years) had numerous boat people refugees from Cambodia. The stray cats disappeared, along with the nasturtium leaves, which were apparently a delicacy. Different standards in different cultures but I draw the line at cats, bugs and such.

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  76. @Jack D
    That's even more far fetched. Chicken is really cheap because they eat really cheap food and convert it to meat in a matter of weeks. Do you know how much expensive cat food you need to grow a lb. of cat?

    Right, Chickens literally eat chicken feed.

    Speaking of which, in the early oughts, I applied to MBA programs at a handful of top-20 schools. The only one I got an interview with was Columbia, thanks, I think, to an essay I wrote where I praised the value of diversity.

    Before my interview with one of their alumni, I looked the guy up. The only thing I found on him on was a lawsuit or criminal complaint (I forget which) accusing him of some nefarious business related to chicken feed.

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  77. The Chinese-Vietnamese chick was reachin’! There are no negative stereotypes of Chinese-Vietnamese people or even Vietnamese people. It’s all good!

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  78. @Massimo Heitor
    Ms. Chow is offended at the generalization of Asian Americans, so offers a counter-generalization of Bhutanese-Americans. Wow!

    Generalizations for me but not for thee.

    Kat Chow's stereotyping and bigotry towards low performing Bhutanese Americans is an attempt to drive a wedge...

    Bhutan is an obscure tiny country with less than a million people (Wikipedia says 742,737). I never heard of this country or people until now. Apparently, ~70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible.

    >70k refugees were resettled in the US and had an unusually high suicide rate, which sounds terrible.

    Not surprising imo. For a honest to god Buddhist, egocentric consumerist America must be the worst hell imaginable. It’s nightmarish for me, and I was born and raised in neoliberalism.

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  79. OT:

    The latest in Trump Derangement Syndrome:

    Mission Bookstore To Host Anti-Trump Aerobics Class

    Adding to the list of creative ways that Bay Area folk have found to sort out their political emotions express their resistance to the Trump regime, Alley Cat Books on 24th Street will be hosting an Anti-Trump Aerobics Class later this month with the idea behind it being to “tackle the anxiety of state change through embodied protest.”

    Live 105 picked up the news about the class, which means it’s sure to fill up, and it’s happening at 2 p.m. on Sunday, April 30th.

    The folks at the bookstore, who have made no secret of their animosity toward the Trump administration on social media, have created an aerobics routine “comprised of Trump’s most common gestures” and ways in which one might try to “block” them, as Live 105 learns. Also, “Long, red neck-ties will be provided upon arrival.”

    http://sfist.com/2017/04/19/mission_bookstore_to_host_anti-trum.php

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    I think that's a lesbian book store.
    , @Pericles
    Trump once again induces weight loss among those who need it. (Lena Dunham was first, as I recall.)
  80. @Jack D
    Ringworm is a fungal skin condition like athlete's foot. No idea how it could be caused by cat food.

    Canned cat food, like every other canned food, is sterilized in the canning process. I don't recommend it unless you are a cat, but a freshly opened can would be perfectly safe for humans to eat. I doubt you'd like the taste but it wouldn't affect your health.

    Jack – Ringworm – throwaway line on cat theme, obviously not literally in the cat food. That happens from time to time.

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  81. @Svigor
    I'm pretty sure that "Kat" is the funniest name you can put in front of "Chow."

    Alternatives?

    Kant Chow

    Right Chow

    Cow Chow

    Up Chow

    Howe Chow

    Train Chow (for the alphabetic surname listing of “Chow Train”)

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    • Replies: @Pericles
    Chow Chow

    Woof?
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu_Chin_Chow
  82. @Ed
    Bhutan refugees and blacks are getting along just swimmingly.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/07/bhutanese-nepalese-refugees-african-american-rochester-violence/10171583/

    Rather, he says, the violent and misplaced anger he feels toward African Americans has been building for years in this small community of perhaps a few thousand South Asian refugees living in small pockets of northwest Rochester near and in Jones Square. The anger is fueled, he and more than a dozen other residents interviewed say, by hundreds of incidents of robbery and violent and verbal bullying in recent years.
    And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class:
    They wanted to go to war with the black community.
    "African-Americans are targeting them, and there is just so much of this they are going to take," said Bill Wischmeyer, an advocate for the refugee community known as "Mr. Bill."

    They just need to be educated that blacks are fellow oppressed “people of color” with whom they have more in common with than either with the hated privileged white oppressor.

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    • Replies: @fish
    Oh I'm sure Tiny will be along shortly to remind them of just that.....oh.....and demographics!
  83. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Twinkie
    "Kat Chow"... Love the name. Sounds like heartier cat food.

    “Kat Chow”… Love the name. Sounds like heartier cat food.

    Chow, Chow, Chow!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hS5QzGIVa7I (Purina “Kat” Chow – Chow, Chow, Chow)

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  84. @donut
    I've worked with quite a few Phillppino nurses and overall I found them to be excellent nurses and friendly to me even though I was the minority in the workplace . If only they hadn't killed Magellan . I suspect that Ms. Chow is bitter because she is yoogly .

    Former employer of mine who served during the Korean War and spent time in the Philippines informed me that Phillppno were consider the ” brothers” of the Asian rim.

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  85. Not only are they nuts, they are liars.

    Malaklou’s story sounds made up. Very few kinder-gardeners even know that hair dye or colored contacts exist. If her friend’s supposed bullying was really that sophisticated at age 5-6 then the friend must have been some sort of child prodigy.

    Why would anyone buy this woman’s nonsense?

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  86. @Ed
    Bhutan refugees and blacks are getting along just swimmingly.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/07/bhutanese-nepalese-refugees-african-american-rochester-violence/10171583/

    Rather, he says, the violent and misplaced anger he feels toward African Americans has been building for years in this small community of perhaps a few thousand South Asian refugees living in small pockets of northwest Rochester near and in Jones Square. The anger is fueled, he and more than a dozen other residents interviewed say, by hundreds of incidents of robbery and violent and verbal bullying in recent years.
    And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class:
    They wanted to go to war with the black community.
    "African-Americans are targeting them, and there is just so much of this they are going to take," said Bill Wischmeyer, an advocate for the refugee community known as "Mr. Bill."

    Something ain’t right in Rochester, NY. In 2010 the national high school graduation rate was 74.7%. In Rochester, the 2010 high school graduation rate for black males was 9%, Hispanic males 10%, and white males 31%.

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    In Rochester, as in a lot of upstate NY cities, I suspect, the people with "get up and go" , white, black, you name it, have got up and left. They moved out to the suburbs, where their kids can go to class without being mugged.

    A few years ago, I happened to be in the vicinity of my late father-in-law's high school in Rochester (Benjamin Franklin HS, class of 1932, in case you are interested)...when he attended, it was a lower-middle class kind of place...poor but respectable, lots of Jews, Irish etc. Some graduates went on to pretty good careers.
    Today, it is in the middle of a ghetto, surrounded by falling-down houses and out-of -business stores. A cop car was parked out front of the school all day, just in case.
    Really sad.
  87. @Forbes
    Maybe if she explained why Asians are such bad drivers people would stop asking...

    I suspect it could have to do with myopia. But I think they don’t necessarily cause more accidents. So, I guess, bad but relatively safe drivers?:

    Comparison of visual reaction time [VRT] in myopic subjects with emmetropic subjects

    http://www.ejmanager.com/mnstemps/28/28-1471505995.pdf

    Conclusion:
    The myopic people have greater reaction time than emmetropic people even though when their refractive error is corrected. This adds refractive error as a new member in the row of factors that affects the VRT.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1765219

    ETHNICITY PLAYS ROLE IN VISION PROBLEMS, RESEARCH SUGGESTS

    In this study, 18.5 percent of the Asian children were nearsighted — thats more than four times the number of nearsighted white children (4.4 percent); three times the number of [near]sighted African American children (6.6 percent); and one-and-a-half times the number of nearsighted Hispanic children (13.2 percent.)

    On the flip side, nearly one in five white children (19.3 percent) were farsighted — three times the number of both farsighted Asian children (6.3 percent) and farsighted African-American children (6.4 percent), and one-and-a-half times the number of farsighted Hispanic children (12.7 percent).

    Astigmatism ran fairly high in each group, with Hispanic children having the highest prevalence (37 percent), followed by Asian children (34 percent), white children (26 percent) and, finally, African-American children (20 percent.)

    https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/cleere.htm

    The Sun Is the Best Optometrist

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/opinion/21wang.html

    This leads us to a recommendation that may satisfy tiger and soccer moms alike: if your child is going to stick his nose in a book this summer, get him to do it outdoors.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1765016

    The myopia boom

    Short-sightedness is reaching epidemic proportions. Some scientists think they have found a reason why.

    http://www.nature.com/news/the-myopia-boom-1.17120

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1768329

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  88. The Asian Model Minority is a myth:

    Executive Order 11625.
    Executive Order 11625.
    Executive Order 11625.

    This needs to be repealed by Trump asap. Asians are just another government-subsidized group…or do you think you can save money for a gas station by driving a cab?

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  89. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Clark Westwood
    Remember the crash of Asiana Flight 214? Some news person got canned for not realizing that the pilots' "names" that were handed to her were a joke before she read them live on the air.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GbGmDORwk

    So now if some news reader refuses to say "Kat Chow" on the air on the grounds that such a ridiculous name has to be a joke, will that person also get canned (for insensitivity to Ms Chow and her "culture's" naming conventions)?

    Kat is usually short for Katherine – it’s often kind of a preppy nickname. I wonder if Ms. Kat Chow is appropriating an American name. Hmmm. Not cool if she is.

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    It seems that Cultural Appropriation is a thing even in the publishing industry:

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/04/the-gatekeepers-strike-back.html
  90. @Tom-in-VA
    The Queen of Bhutan is very pretty, and the King looks like Asian Elvis.

    http://i.imgur.com/HsnyS.jpg

    The queen looks a little like Julia Nickson (Catherine Sakai from Babylon 5).

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  91. According to the American Community Survey, the poverty rate for Chinese-Americans was 15.4% in 2015, higher than the white non-Hispanic poverty rate of 10.4%. Presumably, Koreans also count as “fancy Asians”, but 13.4% of Korean-Americans had incomes below the poverty line, also higher than the white rate.

    (Click here; go to “Advanced Search”, click “race/ancestry”; search for “Chinese Alone”, “Korean Alone”, and “All available non-Hispanic Origin by Race”; click on “topics” and search for “poverty”; then click on the first item labeled “SELECTED POPULATION PROFILE IN THE UNITED STATES” for the year 2015; ctrl+f search for “poverty”; look at the row labeled “All people”.)

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    • Replies: @matt
    Filipino-Americans had a poverty rate of just 6.5% in 2015, a good deal lower than the non-hispanic white rate, and lower even than the Japanese-American rate of 8.3%, to say nothing of the much higher Chinese- and Korean-American poverty rates.
    , @Escher
    I wonder how much of the Chinese and Korean poverty rate is due to off-the-books income from their businesses, making them eligible to milk the system through earned income tax credits, food stamps etc.
  92. @Steve Sailer
    "That’s all stuff that’s not okay and is exhausting to deal with."

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.

    Of course they’re tired. They’re vegans (grainitarians, really) who refuse to eat a diet that includes B-vitamins and is usually sugar and starch based. They also shun working out and probably all secretly hate the outdoors and fresh air. Scott Adams had a piece a few weeks ago on how SJW types need activism for the dopamine rush.

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  93. @donut
    I read somewhere that they tend to discourage tourism as well .

    Bhutan allows tourism, but only on officially-sanctioned tours that cost a bomb. I have a friend who went there a few years back, and he said it’s indeed a beautiful place, but if I recall correctly he had to pay hundreds of US dollars per day of visiting there as a kind of national cover charge.

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  94. @Svigor
    I'm pretty sure that "Kat" is the funniest name you can put in front of "Chow."

    Alternatives?

    Alternatively, she could sign ‘How Kattee’.

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  95. @Publius
    Not to get too deep into the obvious here, but isn't a group of Asian-American's that are universally less successful than other groups of Asian-Americans the exception that proves the point? Is her assertion that the white male power structure decided to do a bunch of really nuanced research to learn how to tell Bhutanese-Americans from Chinese and Japanese Americans just to make the Bhutanese into disadvantaged bodies? How is she missing the obvious implication of her argument? Don't answer the last bit.

    Not to get too deep into the obvious here, but isn’t a group of Asian-American’s that are universally less successful than other groups of Asian-Americans the exception that proves the point?

    Yes, it is the exception that proves the rule of the 1.2 billion strong ethnostate, its SE Asian diaspora plus 120M Japanese. Probably 1.4B+ people. Miss Chow doth protest too much. (*Yeah, whites have Albanians too.)

    The thought that white people are going to be forever cowed by PC and not reassert claims to territory is a lot like the thought that pig’s blood is going to be an effective deterrent to Muslims – wishful thinking.

    * https://jakubmarian.com/average-iq-in-europe-by-country-map/

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  96. @Jack D
    The other thread is pretty far down now, so more on M. Shadee Malaklou here:

    http://beloitcollegeroundtable.com/2016/10/24/new-professor-m-shadee-malaklou-teaches-revolution/

    New professor M. Shadee Malaklou teaches revolution
    OCT 24, 2016by LILLIE HERBSTin FEATURES
    Critical Identities Studies professor M. Shadee Malaklou seeks to fight injustice in the Beloit College and community. Pondering questions of gender, sexuality and race as they intersect with power has been a lifelong personal pursuit of Malaklou’s. Her childhood experiences with issues of identity led her to question how people treat others based on gender, sexuality, and race. While growing up in Orange County, Calif., her grandmother came from Iran to help raise her — and cultures clashed.


    One particular experience from kindergarten has stuck with her. “I had this girl who I thought was my best friend. … She had always given me crucifix necklaces that would remind me how we were different in some way. And I remember I really coveted the crucifix necklaces because it felt like a little bit of whiteness that I was getting,” she continued. “Then, after we had been friends for a little bit all of a sudden one day at recess she was like if you want to continue to be my friend you can’t speak that language to your grandmother, you can’t talk to her when she talks to you, you should dye your hair blonde, and wear blue contacts, you should bring normal foods to school, and I was just desperate to be her friend that I wanted so much to be read as white that I said yes. And so for like three days I did not speak to my grandmother. It literally still is a trauma that I deal with. Because I think here is this one woman who gave me all of my love, she’s the place I got all my support from because my mother couldn’t give it to me. And I was so quick and so ready to betray her because I wanted so much to be the person this girl was describing. So I think that I have literally spent my entire life trying to understand why I said yes to her.”
     

    ...By critically engaging with intersections of identity and power, she hopes education can inspire her students to create social change. “I want them to fuck shit up,” she said. “I want them to literally learn how to destroy the world that they knew and think about new sociality, new worldliness, and about ways of connecting to each other and to living things.”
     
    These people all had unhappy childhoods and are all nucking futs and they are imposing their mishegos (that's an Iranian word for nuttiness) on the rest of us. Wouldn't it have been better for her and her grandma to all have stayed in Iran where there are no blondes to make her feel ashamed of her brownness?

    I’d bet any amount of money that that didn’t happen.

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  97. @Ripple Earthdevil
    OT:

    Crime - Sacto 911
    April 19, 2017 11:55 AM
    Woman pleads guilty in Davis mosque vandalism

    Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article145520054.html#storylink=cpy

    Davis is home to UC Davis, you could think of it as a mini, more rural, cleaner, whiter, mellower, but much hotter Berkeley. Given the Central Valley location the university has a strong agriculture focus, and the veterinary school and clinic are highly regarded.

    Davis is home to UC Davis, you could think of it as a mini, more rural, cleaner, whiter, mellower, but much hotter Berkeley.

    UC Davis is barely “whiter” than Cal. Collegedata dot com give the white demographics at each school as 31.6% and 31.2%, respectively. In the Welcome to the Aggie family booklet my son got this spring we counted a total of two white males out of the forty or so students shown.

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  98. @donut
    I've worked with quite a few Phillppino nurses and overall I found them to be excellent nurses and friendly to me even though I was the minority in the workplace . If only they hadn't killed Magellan . I suspect that Ms. Chow is bitter because she is yoogly .

    27 donut > If only they hadn’t killed Magellan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapu-Lapu

    during his circum-navigation, on the (extended for repairs) stopover in South America, he disciplined and even executed crew-members who violated the orders to not fraternize with foreign women (which originated from the pen of Queen Isabella herself).

    Presto-chango, they get to the Philippines, he (Magellan) settles in, gets a hard-on for rice-powered fucking machines.

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    Magellan didn't have a problem with his men having sex with the locals in Brazil. His issue was with mutineers when they were wintering further south in Patagonia later, and he had some mutineers executed.
  99. @Tom-in-VA
    Aren't the Gurkhas from Nepal? These are people with whom I would not fuck.

    72 Tom-in-VA > Aren’t the Gurkhas from Nepal? These are people with whom I would not fuck

    for a really long time, CINCFifthFleet used Ghurkas as the outer ring of guards at Naval Support Activity Bahrain. A US Marine there told me: “do not fuck with those guys”.

    By the way, a New York Jewish guy was doing the crewing of the Gurkhas, under contract.

    Nowadays, the “outer ring” is one Bahraini carabinieri; usually glued to his smartphone

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  100. @FKA Max
    I suspect it could have to do with myopia. But I think they don't necessarily cause more accidents. So, I guess, bad but relatively safe drivers?:

    Comparison of visual reaction time [VRT] in myopic subjects with emmetropic subjects

    http://www.ejmanager.com/mnstemps/28/28-1471505995.pdf

    Conclusion:
    The myopic people have greater reaction time than emmetropic people even though when their refractive error is corrected. This adds refractive error as a new member in the row of factors that affects the VRT.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1765219

    ETHNICITY PLAYS ROLE IN VISION PROBLEMS, RESEARCH SUGGESTS

    In this study, 18.5 percent of the Asian children were nearsighted -- thats more than four times the number of nearsighted white children (4.4 percent); three times the number of [near]sighted African American children (6.6 percent); and one-and-a-half times the number of nearsighted Hispanic children (13.2 percent.)

    On the flip side, nearly one in five white children (19.3 percent) were farsighted -- three times the number of both farsighted Asian children (6.3 percent) and farsighted African-American children (6.4 percent), and one-and-a-half times the number of farsighted Hispanic children (12.7 percent).

    Astigmatism ran fairly high in each group, with Hispanic children having the highest prevalence (37 percent), followed by Asian children (34 percent), white children (26 percent) and, finally, African-American children (20 percent.)
     

    - https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/cleere.htm

    The Sun Is the Best Optometrist

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/opinion/21wang.html

    This leads us to a recommendation that may satisfy tiger and soccer moms alike: if your child is going to stick his nose in a book this summer, get him to do it outdoors.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1765016

    The myopia boom

    Short-sightedness is reaching epidemic proportions. Some scientists think they have found a reason why.

    http://www.nature.com/news/the-myopia-boom-1.17120
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-woodley-effect/#comment-1768329

    Excellent. Thanks for the links.

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  101. “Bhutanese-Americans” my ass.

    Bhutanese refugees are Lhotshampas (“southerners”), a group of Nepali language-speaking …
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutanese_refugees

    They should be called Nepalese refugees from the Bhutan apartheid state. Search on [bhutan nepalese repression] for the shocking details.

    Despite being open to foreigners, the government is acutely aware of the environmental impact tourists can have on Bhutan’s unique and virtually unspoiled landscape and APARTHEID culture.

    All tourists (group or individual) must travel on a planned, prepaid, guided package tour or custom designed travel program MODELED ON NORTH KOREAN TOURISM PROTOCOLS.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Bhutan

    I’m not clear how Bhutan got the US of Suckers to take in so many of their problems, I suspect it is partially actual bribes, partially just working a stupid system, and partially their tourism protocol favors small numbers of influential wealthy sorts they can convince to buy into their need to off load Nepalese in order to ensure the survival of their enviro apartheid theocracy.

    Bhutanese fascism:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Bhutan#Preserving_traditional_culture

    It appears there is no recognized Nepalese political party, but I did not click on everything, so I might have missed something.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan_Peace_and_Prosperity_Party

    I can’t go on any longer I have to take my meds.

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  102. “Sullivan’s piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities.”

    Somehow I suspect we will never be told we have to parse whites by ethnic groups. Whites are all rich and privileged, no matter how poor their particular ethnic group.

    Eventually we will see mandatory affirmative action for underrepresented Asian ethnic groups, like Buthanese, Polynesians, etc. We will never see affirmative action for underrepresented white ethnic groups, because that would, uh, not be kosher to a particular white ethnic group that eats up a disproportionate share of the white share of positions at colleges, etc.

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  103. @Triumph104
    Something ain't right in Rochester, NY. In 2010 the national high school graduation rate was 74.7%. In Rochester, the 2010 high school graduation rate for black males was 9%, Hispanic males 10%, and white males 31%.

    In Rochester, as in a lot of upstate NY cities, I suspect, the people with “get up and go” , white, black, you name it, have got up and left. They moved out to the suburbs, where their kids can go to class without being mugged.

    A few years ago, I happened to be in the vicinity of my late father-in-law’s high school in Rochester (Benjamin Franklin HS, class of 1932, in case you are interested)…when he attended, it was a lower-middle class kind of place…poor but respectable, lots of Jews, Irish etc. Some graduates went on to pretty good careers.
    Today, it is in the middle of a ghetto, surrounded by falling-down houses and out-of -business stores. A cop car was parked out front of the school all day, just in case.
    Really sad.

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    Strangely, there is a white working class remnant in Baltimore. A study cited here a while back said they have an average IQ of 86.
  104. @Karl
    27 donut > If only they hadn’t killed Magellan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapu-Lapu

    during his circum-navigation, on the (extended for repairs) stopover in South America, he disciplined and even executed crew-members who violated the orders to not fraternize with foreign women (which originated from the pen of Queen Isabella herself).

    Presto-chango, they get to the Philippines, he (Magellan) settles in, gets a hard-on for rice-powered fucking machines.

    Magellan didn’t have a problem with his men having sex with the locals in Brazil. His issue was with mutineers when they were wintering further south in Patagonia later, and he had some mutineers executed.

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  105. Trump preparing to accept Obama’s (Muslim) Rohingya (don’t call them Burmese) people trapped on Papuan Island because Australia refuses to take them and the Papuans don’t want them anymore. But don’t worry they will be extremely vetted by US Foriegn service civil servents who don’t speek a word of Rohingya and can’t verify anything they say, although probably Al Qeada has not penetrated into the deep SE Asian jungles anyway.

    PNG leader steps up pressure on Turnbull to close Manus Island
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/png-leader-steps-up-pressure-on-turnbull-to-close-manus-island/news-story/b677e1e69a727d45c7c4204082c795d9

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  106. @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    The “refugees” from Bhutan in this country are mostly Nepalese that came into Bhutan during a war.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutanese_refugees

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  107. @Svigor
    I'm pretty sure that "Kat" is the funniest name you can put in front of "Chow."

    Alternatives?

    “Pussy Chow”

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  108. @Johan Meyer
    The Bhutanese refugees are ethnic Nepalis from whom Bhutan was ethnically cleansed. Hence the "the happiest country on earth" propaganda. Largely Hindu (remainder Buddhist), hence not as worthy of sympathy as the Muslim Rohingya, whose situation is otherwise similar (Aryan/North Indians removed from predominantly Sino-Tibetan regions, namely Bhutan and Myanmar, respectively). The able-bodied were moved largely to the US (e.g. Rochester NY), while those with physical disabilities were moved to Regina, Saskatchewan.

    If your country has a bothersome ethnic minority, now is the ideal time to get rid of them. Normally people will fight to the death to stay on their ancestral land, the alternative being death by starvation as homeless beggars. Today however, victims of ethnic cleansing get to live in rich countries and collect welfare benefits forever, so they might just pack up and leave without a fight.

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  109. @Jack D
    The other thread is pretty far down now, so more on M. Shadee Malaklou here:

    http://beloitcollegeroundtable.com/2016/10/24/new-professor-m-shadee-malaklou-teaches-revolution/

    New professor M. Shadee Malaklou teaches revolution
    OCT 24, 2016by LILLIE HERBSTin FEATURES
    Critical Identities Studies professor M. Shadee Malaklou seeks to fight injustice in the Beloit College and community. Pondering questions of gender, sexuality and race as they intersect with power has been a lifelong personal pursuit of Malaklou’s. Her childhood experiences with issues of identity led her to question how people treat others based on gender, sexuality, and race. While growing up in Orange County, Calif., her grandmother came from Iran to help raise her — and cultures clashed.


    One particular experience from kindergarten has stuck with her. “I had this girl who I thought was my best friend. … She had always given me crucifix necklaces that would remind me how we were different in some way. And I remember I really coveted the crucifix necklaces because it felt like a little bit of whiteness that I was getting,” she continued. “Then, after we had been friends for a little bit all of a sudden one day at recess she was like if you want to continue to be my friend you can’t speak that language to your grandmother, you can’t talk to her when she talks to you, you should dye your hair blonde, and wear blue contacts, you should bring normal foods to school, and I was just desperate to be her friend that I wanted so much to be read as white that I said yes. And so for like three days I did not speak to my grandmother. It literally still is a trauma that I deal with. Because I think here is this one woman who gave me all of my love, she’s the place I got all my support from because my mother couldn’t give it to me. And I was so quick and so ready to betray her because I wanted so much to be the person this girl was describing. So I think that I have literally spent my entire life trying to understand why I said yes to her.”
     

    ...By critically engaging with intersections of identity and power, she hopes education can inspire her students to create social change. “I want them to fuck shit up,” she said. “I want them to literally learn how to destroy the world that they knew and think about new sociality, new worldliness, and about ways of connecting to each other and to living things.”
     
    These people all had unhappy childhoods and are all nucking futs and they are imposing their mishegos (that's an Iranian word for nuttiness) on the rest of us. Wouldn't it have been better for her and her grandma to all have stayed in Iran where there are no blondes to make her feel ashamed of her brownness?

    M Shadee Malaklou would have been better assigned to Creative Writing courses, not that she’s talented in that area, but it appears to be what she’s building her careeer on.

    How many kindergarten kids have access to an unlimited supply of crucifix necklaces?

    How many kindergarten kids advise their peers to dye their hair a certain color, any color?

    How many kindergarten kids are aware of the existence of blue contact lenses, or demand that their “friends” start wearning them?

    I’m sorry, but this piece of damaged human goods just dreamed up a traumatic childhood scenario in order to justify her own misplaced rage. Kids can obviously be unkind and unsubtle, but I just don’t believe the examples she trotted out here are anything other than fourth-rate fictions. She’s gambling that — due to the climate of willful stupidity and PC enforcement within academia — people will at least pretend to believe her.

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  110. @Charles Pewitt
    I don't feel no ways tired of thinking how delightful it is that we have President Donald Trump instead of President Hillary Clinton.


    Hillary Clinton Don't Feel No Ways Tired:

    https://youtu.be/Y-H9BOIYhgc

    Her husband was our first African-American president, but somehow I don’t think she’s going to cut it as our first African-American First Lady.

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  111. “And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class”

    There are no complexities; it’s all very simple: Blacks are America’s noble class, like the Samurai who once ruled Japan — they are free to go anywhere and do anything to anybody, and you’re not allowed to do anything to them. Even thinking about collective self-defense is “inappropriate” and anger toward our masters is “misplaced”.

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  112. @Anon
    If that is the truth, why do Asians like Kat Chow neglect the plight of Bhutanese who are being harassed by blacks?

    Btw, what is a mixed Asian? Meow Mix?

    What did Kat Chow's parents feed her as a child?

    Nine Lies?

    Yeah,it’s a stupid name. But she is,I believe,trying to make a larger point.
    I assume that the word “chow” entered the language as a result of heteronormative cisgendered American soldiers appropriating some Asian word for food. This racist language

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  113. @Achmed E. Newman

    "... generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, ...
     
    Yes, of course they're diverse if you're gonna call them "Asian-Americans". That's why I use the term Oriental. Orientals CAN be successfully stereotyped in the way that Andrew Sullivan did, so what's your problem, Meow Mix?

    "Asians" are vastly diverse, because Asia is a big fricking continent, the biggest in fact. I know I've been through this before, and I shouldn't have to take time to write this again. Asia has Moslem jihadis; it has Russian steppe people (huh?); it has Orientals, it has Uighurs; it has Persians, it has Indians (of the tech-support variety); lastly, not forgotten are the Bangladouches.

    I don't like this broad, as I was always a Friskys fan anyway. (Miss Frisky, least that's what this very friendly Chinese lady called herself, took me up on deck and bit my neck while on the Peking Ferry. People, I was glad I found her.)

    You’ve been through that before,and I’ve brought this up before: Oriental is less specific than Asian. It covers the entire Eastern Hemisphere. You might say that it connotes East Asian, but so does Asian, in this context.

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    Glad someone's been paying attention ;-}, but are you telling me that Africa is included in "Oriental", or "Indian" (dot variety)? You know they aren't, but they are in the Eastern Hemisphere. That doesn't work out.

    I do realize that "Oriental" used to include some Middle Eastern lands (hence the "Oriental Express" name for the railroad, that I had previously thought, before reading a comment here on unz, had gone on to China (yeah, I know). I do learn stuff here, but I'm gonna stick with "Oriental" and hope it catches back on. It's the best term, really, for anyone with the features seen in people from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. (Indonesia and Malaysia would be questionable on this.)

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    @Buffalo Joe
    Ed, I find it amazingly insightful that refugees from the Top of the World, who probably never interacted with blacks, resettle into Rochester NY and become racists. See how quickly whites can teach you to hate blacks. Otherwise, what happened here?

    Maybe refugee resettlement program drops those people like water on a forest fire.

    Negroes are the fire, refugees are supposed to be the water.

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  115. @Clark Westwood
    Remember the crash of Asiana Flight 214? Some news person got canned for not realizing that the pilots' "names" that were handed to her were a joke before she read them live on the air.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GbGmDORwk

    So now if some news reader refuses to say "Kat Chow" on the air on the grounds that such a ridiculous name has to be a joke, will that person also get canned (for insensitivity to Ms Chow and her "culture's" naming conventions)?

    Reminds me when the Chinese invaded San Francisco in the late 1970′s a lot of them attended my sons middle school
    He showed me one kid in the yearbook. His name was Woo Suk Dong. There was a UCLA girl named Phat Ho pronounced fat.

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  116. I like how in the video, the two women claiming Jungle Asian Pokemon points are from the Fancy Asian overseas Chinese minorities in their countries.

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    Yeah, it seems that just as Steve as has pointed out that in the West the SJW racket is 1) very competitive, and 2) usually favors people who are already doing well, so in Asia the overseas Chinese who are already outperforming everyone else are occupying the safe spaces that are supposed to help downtrodden Malays and New Guineans.

    So overseas Chinese SJWs are Asia's answer to America's mulatto and Igbo diversitcrats.
  117. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Let me guess. Her husband's first name is Dog, whose penchant for the unspeakable 'chow down' technique of keeping doggie-daddy caddie-happy keeps Kat 'in the house'. Her canine master is only too glad to sign on to her kat-fight clawing, scratching and hair pulling.

    Kat, she is the daughter of "Chow and Lie" inaccurately rendered as Chou-En-Lai, the right-hand man of Chairman Meow, China's greatest mass murderer. But Chow and Lie seduced the whore Richard Nixon, and the seductress descended directly from the seductor. And she plies her wares at NPR.

    So there.

    NPR? But of course; the blathering that all Asians are not the same but Whites don’t know this has been recycled again and again for the last 40 years. The worst is the assumption that Whites are so ignorant we don’t know there are many ethnicities in Asia.

    And we’re supposed to hang our heads in shame and intone my fault my fault my most grievous fault for whatever we did, said or thought.

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    the blathering that all Asians are not the same but Whites don’t know this has been recycled again and again for the last 40 years.
     
    "Rice is rice": https://youtu.be/w7SwjdMIteg
    , @res
    It's really funny that we are not supposed to notice the macro differences but are expected to notice the micro differences.
  118. @Ripple Earthdevil
    OT:

    The latest in Trump Derangement Syndrome:

    Mission Bookstore To Host Anti-Trump Aerobics Class

    Adding to the list of creative ways that Bay Area folk have found to sort out their political emotions express their resistance to the Trump regime, Alley Cat Books on 24th Street will be hosting an Anti-Trump Aerobics Class later this month with the idea behind it being to "tackle the anxiety of state change through embodied protest."

    Live 105 picked up the news about the class, which means it's sure to fill up, and it's happening at 2 p.m. on Sunday, April 30th.

    The folks at the bookstore, who have made no secret of their animosity toward the Trump administration on social media, have created an aerobics routine "comprised of Trump’s most common gestures" and ways in which one might try to "block" them, as Live 105 learns. Also, "Long, red neck-ties will be provided upon arrival."

    http://sfist.com/2017/04/19/mission_bookstore_to_host_anti-trum.php

    I think that’s a lesbian book store.

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  119. @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    I live in a building and a city that has a lot of Bhutanese refugees. From what I was able to glean from a local news story of a couple years ago most, if not all, Bhutanese refugees are ethnically Nepali. Over the last decade or so the government of Bhutan has been engaged in a program of “Bhutanization,” in effect kicking out those not considered Bhutanese. So it’s weird most of the Bhutanese are really Nepalese who weren’t accepted by either country & were living in refugee camps for many years.
    As far as I can tell they seem to be Hindu for the most part. The women wear saris & have elaborate nose rings. They keep to themselves for most part & are pretty quiet, the middle-aged men seem to be unemployed, standing outside the building during the day, smoking. The younger 20 something types of course though are adopting American gangster style clothing & are louder when partying & fighting. All in all, I don’t despise or abhor them but feel pity because they don’t seem to have a place anywhere in this world. Now of course they are an American social problem, not so much a Bhutanese or Nepali social problem.

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  120. @Jack D
    The other thread is pretty far down now, so more on M. Shadee Malaklou here:

    http://beloitcollegeroundtable.com/2016/10/24/new-professor-m-shadee-malaklou-teaches-revolution/

    New professor M. Shadee Malaklou teaches revolution
    OCT 24, 2016by LILLIE HERBSTin FEATURES
    Critical Identities Studies professor M. Shadee Malaklou seeks to fight injustice in the Beloit College and community. Pondering questions of gender, sexuality and race as they intersect with power has been a lifelong personal pursuit of Malaklou’s. Her childhood experiences with issues of identity led her to question how people treat others based on gender, sexuality, and race. While growing up in Orange County, Calif., her grandmother came from Iran to help raise her — and cultures clashed.


    One particular experience from kindergarten has stuck with her. “I had this girl who I thought was my best friend. … She had always given me crucifix necklaces that would remind me how we were different in some way. And I remember I really coveted the crucifix necklaces because it felt like a little bit of whiteness that I was getting,” she continued. “Then, after we had been friends for a little bit all of a sudden one day at recess she was like if you want to continue to be my friend you can’t speak that language to your grandmother, you can’t talk to her when she talks to you, you should dye your hair blonde, and wear blue contacts, you should bring normal foods to school, and I was just desperate to be her friend that I wanted so much to be read as white that I said yes. And so for like three days I did not speak to my grandmother. It literally still is a trauma that I deal with. Because I think here is this one woman who gave me all of my love, she’s the place I got all my support from because my mother couldn’t give it to me. And I was so quick and so ready to betray her because I wanted so much to be the person this girl was describing. So I think that I have literally spent my entire life trying to understand why I said yes to her.”
     

    ...By critically engaging with intersections of identity and power, she hopes education can inspire her students to create social change. “I want them to fuck shit up,” she said. “I want them to literally learn how to destroy the world that they knew and think about new sociality, new worldliness, and about ways of connecting to each other and to living things.”
     
    These people all had unhappy childhoods and are all nucking futs and they are imposing their mishegos (that's an Iranian word for nuttiness) on the rest of us. Wouldn't it have been better for her and her grandma to all have stayed in Iran where there are no blondes to make her feel ashamed of her brownness?

    Iranians are White. They know it and in no way do they identify with any non White group. Although they mostly have dark hair they are not particularly dark skinned.

    What a liar how many crucifix necklaces could one 5 year old have to give away. The tale reminds me of Tiger Wood’s tale that in kindergarten he was attacked and tied to a tree by evil White 6 graders.

    His kindergarten teacher said it never happened. But everyone who attended an American school knew it was a lie because the kindergarten is separate from the rest of the school and the kindergarten yards are surrounded by locked fences.

    Lots of 40 year old high school and college teachers tell students that segregation didn’t end until about 2000 and that when they were young they were denied service in a bar or restaurant or denied lodging in a hotel or denied a rental car because they were black.

    It’s all lies of course but that is what is taught, lies upon lies upon lies.

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    Strictly speaking, what happened to M. (I wonder what M. stands for?) Shadee may not be the truth but it is HER truth.

    I said that Shadee is nuts and everyone responded that she is a liar - I would say that the two are not mutually exclusive. ¿Por qué no los dos?

    The real question is why is someone like this, who has clearly sublimated their own body image issues, troubled relationships with parents, etc. into some sort of warped political doctrine, allowed to teach vulnerable young people? (OTOH, if you disqualified all "feminists" who did not have Mommy/Daddy issues that gave impetus to their feminism in the 1st place, that wouldn't leave many feminists. Compared to say Shulamith Firestone, M. Shadee is a paragon of sanity).
  121. @Ed
    Bhutan refugees and blacks are getting along just swimmingly.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/07/bhutanese-nepalese-refugees-african-american-rochester-violence/10171583/

    Rather, he says, the violent and misplaced anger he feels toward African Americans has been building for years in this small community of perhaps a few thousand South Asian refugees living in small pockets of northwest Rochester near and in Jones Square. The anger is fueled, he and more than a dozen other residents interviewed say, by hundreds of incidents of robbery and violent and verbal bullying in recent years.
    And for Khadka and his brother, the sight of their injured father crystallizes that rage into a single clear, terrible and inappropriate thought — a thought that pays no mind to the many American complexities surrounding race and class:
    They wanted to go to war with the black community.
    "African-Americans are targeting them, and there is just so much of this they are going to take," said Bill Wischmeyer, an advocate for the refugee community known as "Mr. Bill."

    So, Bhutanese and Whites have a lot in common. Both are murdered, raped, robbed, beaten bullied and harassed by blacks.

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  122. Canada’s higher end immigrants tend to come from China or India, but lately we have been importing a lot of Filipinos to do lower end work. They are ubiquitous as child care workers, restaurant service workers, lower level hospital staff, janitors etc. We could definitely do a lot worse for an imported working class. Filipinos may not exactly be world beaters, but they are generally pliable, non-violent and happy to intermarry. Compared our import (in the 60s and 70s) of a lot of black nurses from the Caribbean, this has been a resounding success.

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    • Replies: @Ed
    Evidently the Filipinos have the lowest poverty rate among Asian ethnic groups, according to the chart making the rounds.

    It's odd when you first think about it because you don't see too many high achieving Filipinos. However the more I thought of it the more it made sense. They're an older immigrant group. They're also solidly working class and above. Here in the DC area they're concentrated in Southern MD and dominate the nursing industry. They do intermarry and in DC area often with blacks.
  123. @User
    Cool flag though https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Flag_of_Bhutan.svg/1280px-Flag_of_Bhutan.svg.png

    Nepalese flag from Numberphile :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Gne3UHKHs

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  124. @Jack D
    The other thread is pretty far down now, so more on M. Shadee Malaklou here:

    http://beloitcollegeroundtable.com/2016/10/24/new-professor-m-shadee-malaklou-teaches-revolution/

    New professor M. Shadee Malaklou teaches revolution
    OCT 24, 2016by LILLIE HERBSTin FEATURES
    Critical Identities Studies professor M. Shadee Malaklou seeks to fight injustice in the Beloit College and community. Pondering questions of gender, sexuality and race as they intersect with power has been a lifelong personal pursuit of Malaklou’s. Her childhood experiences with issues of identity led her to question how people treat others based on gender, sexuality, and race. While growing up in Orange County, Calif., her grandmother came from Iran to help raise her — and cultures clashed.


    One particular experience from kindergarten has stuck with her. “I had this girl who I thought was my best friend. … She had always given me crucifix necklaces that would remind me how we were different in some way. And I remember I really coveted the crucifix necklaces because it felt like a little bit of whiteness that I was getting,” she continued. “Then, after we had been friends for a little bit all of a sudden one day at recess she was like if you want to continue to be my friend you can’t speak that language to your grandmother, you can’t talk to her when she talks to you, you should dye your hair blonde, and wear blue contacts, you should bring normal foods to school, and I was just desperate to be her friend that I wanted so much to be read as white that I said yes. And so for like three days I did not speak to my grandmother. It literally still is a trauma that I deal with. Because I think here is this one woman who gave me all of my love, she’s the place I got all my support from because my mother couldn’t give it to me. And I was so quick and so ready to betray her because I wanted so much to be the person this girl was describing. So I think that I have literally spent my entire life trying to understand why I said yes to her.”
     

    ...By critically engaging with intersections of identity and power, she hopes education can inspire her students to create social change. “I want them to fuck shit up,” she said. “I want them to literally learn how to destroy the world that they knew and think about new sociality, new worldliness, and about ways of connecting to each other and to living things.”
     
    These people all had unhappy childhoods and are all nucking futs and they are imposing their mishegos (that's an Iranian word for nuttiness) on the rest of us. Wouldn't it have been better for her and her grandma to all have stayed in Iran where there are no blondes to make her feel ashamed of her brownness?

    The AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC. thingy needs another option , I’m thinking “gobsmacked” might be a good choice to offer .

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  125. @Thursday
    Canada's higher end immigrants tend to come from China or India, but lately we have been importing a lot of Filipinos to do lower end work. They are ubiquitous as child care workers, restaurant service workers, lower level hospital staff, janitors etc. We could definitely do a lot worse for an imported working class. Filipinos may not exactly be world beaters, but they are generally pliable, non-violent and happy to intermarry. Compared our import (in the 60s and 70s) of a lot of black nurses from the Caribbean, this has been a resounding success.

    Evidently the Filipinos have the lowest poverty rate among Asian ethnic groups, according to the chart making the rounds.

    It’s odd when you first think about it because you don’t see too many high achieving Filipinos. However the more I thought of it the more it made sense. They’re an older immigrant group. They’re also solidly working class and above. Here in the DC area they’re concentrated in Southern MD and dominate the nursing industry. They do intermarry and in DC area often with blacks.

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    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Filipinos... dominate the nursing industry.
     
    https://youtu.be/gYjVZ14eb0c?list=PLC-qtPgxpBd8Sk2BehG41w7IgSoWJvauV

    Jo Koy is half-white/half-Filipino. His entire comedy routine is available on Netflix and is pretty funny. I thought he was funnier than Ali Wong ("Baby Cobra").

    Evidently the Filipinos have the lowest poverty rate among Asian ethnic groups, according to the chart making the rounds.

    It’s odd when you first think about it because you don’t see too many high achieving Filipinos.
     
    Among the ten largest immigrant groups in the United States, Filipinos display the second highest assimilation index per the long-running Manhattan Institute study (https://www.manhattan-institute.org/pdf/cr_76.pdf). Only Canadian immigrants display a higher assimilation index.

    There are probably four major reasons for this phenomenon. First, unlike most other Asians and Hispanics, Filipino immigrants generally speak good English. Indeed English is an official language in the Philippines, and most educated Filipinos speak it (the Philipines has the highest average TOEFL score in Asia except for Singapore and India). This is HUGE for both assimilation and economic prospects in the United States.

    Second, Filipino immigrants are overwhelmingly Roman Catholic. And they tend to be more observant/conservative in following the faith than, say, Hispanic immigrants are, and thus meld better with observant American Catholics.

    Third, Filipino migration is fairly selective (though not as selective as that of Indians). Although you won't find many doctors, engineers, and scientists among them, most Filipino immigrants are working middle class (nurses, mailmen, etc.).

    Fourth, Filipinos tend to be temperamentally easygoing (compared to, say, Koreans who are, as comedian Ken Jung put it, "the angriest mofos in the world"). This makes them an excellent fit for service- and trade-type jobs that require both a modicum of intelligence AND good customer service orientation.
    , @Steve Sailer
    There aren't a lot of famous Filipinos in America, but they do pretty well on school test scores and the like.
  126. @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    Bhutan is apparently also one of the few countries not to have any formal diplomatic relations with the US, but unlike with North Korea, Iran or Syria, there are no obvious hostilities between the two countries. I’m not sure why no formal relations have been established, other than that Bhutan just tries to keep to itself as much as possible and establishing such relations might open the door to foreign interference. Formal contact with Bhutan is mediated through the Indian government, according to Wikipedia.

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    • Replies: @el topo
    Smart cookies. What country would want to have relations with the vicious and duplicitous US government if they didn't have to?
  127. @Ed
    Evidently the Filipinos have the lowest poverty rate among Asian ethnic groups, according to the chart making the rounds.

    It's odd when you first think about it because you don't see too many high achieving Filipinos. However the more I thought of it the more it made sense. They're an older immigrant group. They're also solidly working class and above. Here in the DC area they're concentrated in Southern MD and dominate the nursing industry. They do intermarry and in DC area often with blacks.

    Filipinos… dominate the nursing industry.

    https://youtu.be/gYjVZ14eb0c?list=PLC-qtPgxpBd8Sk2BehG41w7IgSoWJvauV

    Jo Koy is half-white/half-Filipino. His entire comedy routine is available on Netflix and is pretty funny. I thought he was funnier than Ali Wong (“Baby Cobra”).

    Evidently the Filipinos have the lowest poverty rate among Asian ethnic groups, according to the chart making the rounds.

    It’s odd when you first think about it because you don’t see too many high achieving Filipinos.

    Among the ten largest immigrant groups in the United States, Filipinos display the second highest assimilation index per the long-running Manhattan Institute study (https://www.manhattan-institute.org/pdf/cr_76.pdf). Only Canadian immigrants display a higher assimilation index.

    There are probably four major reasons for this phenomenon. First, unlike most other Asians and Hispanics, Filipino immigrants generally speak good English. Indeed English is an official language in the Philippines, and most educated Filipinos speak it (the Philipines has the highest average TOEFL score in Asia except for Singapore and India). This is HUGE for both assimilation and economic prospects in the United States.

    Second, Filipino immigrants are overwhelmingly Roman Catholic. And they tend to be more observant/conservative in following the faith than, say, Hispanic immigrants are, and thus meld better with observant American Catholics.

    Third, Filipino migration is fairly selective (though not as selective as that of Indians). Although you won’t find many doctors, engineers, and scientists among them, most Filipino immigrants are working middle class (nurses, mailmen, etc.).

    Fourth, Filipinos tend to be temperamentally easygoing (compared to, say, Koreans who are, as comedian Ken Jung put it, “the angriest mofos in the world”). This makes them an excellent fit for service- and trade-type jobs that require both a modicum of intelligence AND good customer service orientation.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    A lot of call center work that used to be in India has now moved to the Philippines for the reasons you give - decent English and decent temperament for customer service work.

    The Philippines had a history as an American colony so they know something about American culture and how to interact with Americans.
  128. @Alden
    NPR? But of course; the blathering that all Asians are not the same but Whites don't know this has been recycled again and again for the last 40 years. The worst is the assumption that Whites are so ignorant we don't know there are many ethnicities in Asia.

    And we're supposed to hang our heads in shame and intone my fault my fault my most grievous fault for whatever we did, said or thought.

    the blathering that all Asians are not the same but Whites don’t know this has been recycled again and again for the last 40 years.

    “Rice is rice”: https://youtu.be/w7SwjdMIteg

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  129. @Svigor
    I'm pretty sure that "Kat" is the funniest name you can put in front of "Chow."

    Alternatives?

    Don’t know about Kat Chow, but in the small town of Bromyard, Herefordshire, is the magnificently named Shun Fat Chinese takeaway, recommended if you’re on a diet.

    https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g503860-d1318871-Reviews-Shun_Fat-Bromyard_Herefordshire_England.html

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  130. @Buffalo Joe
    Ed, I find it amazingly insightful that refugees from the Top of the World, who probably never interacted with blacks, resettle into Rochester NY and become racists. See how quickly whites can teach you to hate blacks. Otherwise, what happened here?

    What if I told you it’s not Magic Dirt … it’s Racist Dirt!

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  131. @Ripple Earthdevil
    OT:

    The latest in Trump Derangement Syndrome:

    Mission Bookstore To Host Anti-Trump Aerobics Class

    Adding to the list of creative ways that Bay Area folk have found to sort out their political emotions express their resistance to the Trump regime, Alley Cat Books on 24th Street will be hosting an Anti-Trump Aerobics Class later this month with the idea behind it being to "tackle the anxiety of state change through embodied protest."

    Live 105 picked up the news about the class, which means it's sure to fill up, and it's happening at 2 p.m. on Sunday, April 30th.

    The folks at the bookstore, who have made no secret of their animosity toward the Trump administration on social media, have created an aerobics routine "comprised of Trump’s most common gestures" and ways in which one might try to "block" them, as Live 105 learns. Also, "Long, red neck-ties will be provided upon arrival."

    http://sfist.com/2017/04/19/mission_bookstore_to_host_anti-trum.php

    Trump once again induces weight loss among those who need it. (Lena Dunham was first, as I recall.)

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  132. @bomag
    Kant Chow

    Right Chow

    Cow Chow

    Up Chow

    Howe Chow

    Train Chow (for the alphabetic surname listing of "Chow Train")

    Chow Chow

    Woof?

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  133. @jtgw
    Bhutan is apparently also one of the few countries not to have any formal diplomatic relations with the US, but unlike with North Korea, Iran or Syria, there are no obvious hostilities between the two countries. I'm not sure why no formal relations have been established, other than that Bhutan just tries to keep to itself as much as possible and establishing such relations might open the door to foreign interference. Formal contact with Bhutan is mediated through the Indian government, according to Wikipedia.

    Smart cookies. What country would want to have relations with the vicious and duplicitous US government if they didn’t have to?

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  134. @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    They basically practice of form of lifetime slavery in the Buddhist monasteries. Many poorer families give up their excess sons to be raised by the local monastery.at adulthood you have to pay back the cost of your care. Either by buying your freedom or working as a monk. But the wages are a pittance and it’s basically impossible to ever pay back the debt.

    On top of all this, the life of a monk means lifetime celibacy. All enforced by the Bhutanese state. (Btw Bhutan is basically just a version of Tibet that remained independent of Beijing)

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  135. @guest
    You've been through that before,and I've brought this up before: Oriental is less specific than Asian. It covers the entire Eastern Hemisphere. You might say that it connotes East Asian, but so does Asian, in this context.

    Glad someone’s been paying attention ;-}, but are you telling me that Africa is included in “Oriental”, or “Indian” (dot variety)? You know they aren’t, but they are in the Eastern Hemisphere. That doesn’t work out.

    I do realize that “Oriental” used to include some Middle Eastern lands (hence the “Oriental Express” name for the railroad, that I had previously thought, before reading a comment here on unz, had gone on to China (yeah, I know). I do learn stuff here, but I’m gonna stick with “Oriental” and hope it catches back on. It’s the best term, really, for anyone with the features seen in people from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. (Indonesia and Malaysia would be questionable on this.)

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    I do learn stuff here, but I’m gonna stick with “Oriental” and hope it catches back on. It’s the best term, really, for anyone with the features seen in people from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. (Indonesia and Malaysia would be questionable on this.)
     
    So Oriental rugs are made in East Asia, instead of Iran?
  136. @PiltdownMan
    I'm going to stand up for the Bhutanese (not the refugees, who are technically Bhutanese only under our laws).

    Bhutan does what we wish we could do.

    It keeps its culture and society intact by charging a large fee to all visitors, and discourages casual tourism. It has had a succession of enlightened rulers, who've made life as tolerable as possible in a traditional economy, and kept its independence wedged between two large, voracious neighbors, India (which annexed neighboring Sikkim in the 1970s) and China (which annexed neighboring Tibet in the 1950s) by keeping outsiders out, insofar as possible.

    They have this concept called the Gross National Happiness.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/world/asia/bhutan-gross-national-happiness-indicator-.html?_r=0

    These so-called Bhutanese "refugees" are actually non-Bhutanese speaking Nepalese illegal Lhotsampa immigrants whom the Bhutanese are in the process of have expelling or for whom the Bhutanese have made life very uncomfortable.

    Presumably, the presence of large numbers of illegal immigrants speaking a foreign language lowered the Gross National Happiness.

    The Nepalese started filtering into Bhutan mid-20th century.

    According to Wikipedia,

    In the 1940s, the British Political Officer Sir Basil Gould...warned...Bhutan House of the potential danger of allowing so many ethnic Nepalese to settle in southern Bhutan, he replied that "since they were not registered subjects they could be evicted whenever the need arose."

    While this is a deplorable thing for Bhutan to do to the wretched refuse on Bhutan's land-locked shores, I find not entirely incomprehensible. The real question here is, who had the bright idea of espousing the cause of these refugees and bringing them over to America, instead of settling them back in Nepal, in the midst of their culture and kith and kin?

    India (which annexed neighboring Sikkim in the 1970s) and China (which annexed neighboring Tibet in the 1950s) by keeping outsiders out, insofar as possible.

    Good comment in general, but you are positing an equivalence here between India and China which the Bhutanese themselves don’t accept. As far as I know, they have zero relations with China. India, on the other hand, is one of the handful of countries they have an embassy in. Indians are one of the handful of people who don’t need a visa to visit Bhutan (though all tourist visits are packaged and priced quite steeply.) Bhutan is a member of the (mostly useless) SAARC. Their foreign/world policy is to some extent outsourced to India, which acts as a benign protector.

    India may have annexed Sikkim, but it was at Sikkimese request. Generally, countries in this part of the world prefer to avoid submitting to China if possible.

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  137. @Alec Leamas

    This complaining about being tired seems to be an SJW Thing lately.
     
    It's a form of argument-evasion masquerading as condescension, proposing that you're all just not learning despite her patience with you which has been worn out. See also: "wow, just wow."

    I can’t even.

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  138. I’ve noticed that NPR’s idea of diversity is a bunch of Jews leavened with a few Asians.

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    Yes, the dirty secret of immigrant/refugee inc. is that very often they are settled in majority black hellscapes where they are tormented daily by afro americans. I once had the opportunity to sit in on a police interview with a man who had been arrested and charged with the federal crime of being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm. He was close to tears as he exclaimed, “What was I suplossed to do? I had to protect myself. The black guys are always robbing us!”

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  140. Thanks to ancient animosities between viets and khmers I can only listen to khmer music video when my viet wife is out shopping.

    https://youtu.be/COjQ3lMHe9I

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  141. @Anon
    "I suspect that a more HBD-nuanced understanding of the differences between East Asians and Southeast Asians would alleviate a lot of the muddled thinking on the topic of “Asian” Americans."

    True, but any honest person knows Sullivan meant East Asians(esp Japanese and Chinese, whom he mentioned specifically). Kat Chow Mein is just playing dumb... or pussy-footing.

    After all, if we say "black dominate sprinting", any honest person knows we are talking of West Africans, not Pygmies.

    good point…Sullivan was clearly writing about Orientals but for some reason this legitimate descriptive word to describe people from East Asia is now considered politically incorrect..I honestly do not know the reason Oriental can no longer be used to describe people from the Orient

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  142. Ali Wong is simply pointing out that Asians have their own cold civil war between GoodYellows (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) and BadYellows (Phillipinos, Vietnamese, Thai, Lao, Cambodian, Indonesian). With interesting conflict sub-dynamics within those ethnic groups as well (coastal urban Chinese having contempt for their hicks-in-the-sticks brethren upland, like our NE WASP/Jewish elites hate the Appalachian/mid-south Scots/Scots-Irish). Sullivan does paint with too broad a brush, but its not anywhere near the level of outrage-worthiness Kat Chow thinks it deserves.

    Would wager that East Africans feel the same (i.e. look down their noses) about West and Sub-Saharan Africans too.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Chow doesn't care about Sullivan's broad brush. Her beef is that he's giving comfort to the enemy and endangering her gang's position. In this case, she counters with the "life's more complicated than that" ploy, but she could just as easily go with "everyone's the same" if it suited her purposes.
  143. @Twinkie

    Filipinos... dominate the nursing industry.
     
    https://youtu.be/gYjVZ14eb0c?list=PLC-qtPgxpBd8Sk2BehG41w7IgSoWJvauV

    Jo Koy is half-white/half-Filipino. His entire comedy routine is available on Netflix and is pretty funny. I thought he was funnier than Ali Wong ("Baby Cobra").

    Evidently the Filipinos have the lowest poverty rate among Asian ethnic groups, according to the chart making the rounds.

    It’s odd when you first think about it because you don’t see too many high achieving Filipinos.
     
    Among the ten largest immigrant groups in the United States, Filipinos display the second highest assimilation index per the long-running Manhattan Institute study (https://www.manhattan-institute.org/pdf/cr_76.pdf). Only Canadian immigrants display a higher assimilation index.

    There are probably four major reasons for this phenomenon. First, unlike most other Asians and Hispanics, Filipino immigrants generally speak good English. Indeed English is an official language in the Philippines, and most educated Filipinos speak it (the Philipines has the highest average TOEFL score in Asia except for Singapore and India). This is HUGE for both assimilation and economic prospects in the United States.

    Second, Filipino immigrants are overwhelmingly Roman Catholic. And they tend to be more observant/conservative in following the faith than, say, Hispanic immigrants are, and thus meld better with observant American Catholics.

    Third, Filipino migration is fairly selective (though not as selective as that of Indians). Although you won't find many doctors, engineers, and scientists among them, most Filipino immigrants are working middle class (nurses, mailmen, etc.).

    Fourth, Filipinos tend to be temperamentally easygoing (compared to, say, Koreans who are, as comedian Ken Jung put it, "the angriest mofos in the world"). This makes them an excellent fit for service- and trade-type jobs that require both a modicum of intelligence AND good customer service orientation.

    A lot of call center work that used to be in India has now moved to the Philippines for the reasons you give – decent English and decent temperament for customer service work.

    The Philippines had a history as an American colony so they know something about American culture and how to interact with Americans.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "A lot of call center work that used to be in India has now moved to the Philippines"

    It helps that customer details don't seem to be passed on to fraudster types. The Indian 'you have a computer virus' scam cold-caller has generally got your details from a call centre.

    Last time I spoke to a Filipino call centre I was intrigued by hearing occasional announcements followed by applause in the background - I think every time someone got a customer signed up to a mobile contract the other staff had to clap.
    , @Twinkie

    The Philippines had a history as an American colony
     
    Setting aside the Canadians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, and Koreans are the most highly assimilating ethnics among the 10 largest immigrant groups in the U.S. Guess what? All three had significant and sustained American military presence (and South Korea still has it).
  144. @PiltdownMan
    I'm going to stand up for the Bhutanese (not the refugees, who are technically Bhutanese only under our laws).

    Bhutan does what we wish we could do.

    It keeps its culture and society intact by charging a large fee to all visitors, and discourages casual tourism. It has had a succession of enlightened rulers, who've made life as tolerable as possible in a traditional economy, and kept its independence wedged between two large, voracious neighbors, India (which annexed neighboring Sikkim in the 1970s) and China (which annexed neighboring Tibet in the 1950s) by keeping outsiders out, insofar as possible.

    They have this concept called the Gross National Happiness.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/world/asia/bhutan-gross-national-happiness-indicator-.html?_r=0

    These so-called Bhutanese "refugees" are actually non-Bhutanese speaking Nepalese illegal Lhotsampa immigrants whom the Bhutanese are in the process of have expelling or for whom the Bhutanese have made life very uncomfortable.

    Presumably, the presence of large numbers of illegal immigrants speaking a foreign language lowered the Gross National Happiness.

    The Nepalese started filtering into Bhutan mid-20th century.

    According to Wikipedia,

    In the 1940s, the British Political Officer Sir Basil Gould...warned...Bhutan House of the potential danger of allowing so many ethnic Nepalese to settle in southern Bhutan, he replied that "since they were not registered subjects they could be evicted whenever the need arose."

    While this is a deplorable thing for Bhutan to do to the wretched refuse on Bhutan's land-locked shores, I find not entirely incomprehensible. The real question here is, who had the bright idea of espousing the cause of these refugees and bringing them over to America, instead of settling them back in Nepal, in the midst of their culture and kith and kin?

    Good question. Probably because the Nepalese didn’t want them back, so just truck these surplus humans off to the North American landfill and dump them there. Of course, the geography is different, the culture is different, they have ZERO connection to the history and mythos, and they will be resentful and uncomfortable–a number will commit suicide. After a couple of generations the surviving kids will out-marry and play their own role in developing the Kwa anti-culture.

    And there you have it–from traditional Buddhist village life to soulless, atomized secularism in 3 – 4 generations. When their distinctive genotype goes extinct, we’ll find another batch of exotics to toss into the soup.

    It’s pathological and rapacious, as if everybody in the world must eventually become American.

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    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    There are a number of "Nepalese-Bhutanese" here in Rochester, NY, mostly in the Lake Avenue area in the northwest of the city. I worked with a number of them at Strong Memorial Hospital.

    They are all Hindu, not Buddhist. They don't look Bhutanese or dress as Bhutanese. I feel that the Bhutanese were wise to expel them while they still could (not that they were trouble-makers).

    I have a high opinion of them as "model" Asians: Hard-working, law-abiding, culture-retaining. They can be mildly friendly to White co-workers, once their natural reticence wears off. There is already considerable friction between their community (a real community) and the Black non-community. One Nepalese-Bhutanese was murdered by a Black in the city last year (in a street robbery that went from bad to worse), and it is no secret that they and the Blacks do not get along. Everyone knows this except the Nicewhite libtards.

  145. @Ripple Earthdevil
    You'd think if one's name is Katherine or Kathleen or Katrina Chow you'd want to go by Kathy or Kate to avoid the mockery.

    Her given name is Katelin Chow.

    KateChow was taken along with Lin Chow, so what was she supposed to do with all the other high level domain names taken?

    http://katchow.com/

    FWIW, I think it does give her more mind share at less cost than any name site I have seen. And there is a one in a billion chance of Purina buying the domain name for serious money.

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  146. @2Mintzin1
    In Rochester, as in a lot of upstate NY cities, I suspect, the people with "get up and go" , white, black, you name it, have got up and left. They moved out to the suburbs, where their kids can go to class without being mugged.

    A few years ago, I happened to be in the vicinity of my late father-in-law's high school in Rochester (Benjamin Franklin HS, class of 1932, in case you are interested)...when he attended, it was a lower-middle class kind of place...poor but respectable, lots of Jews, Irish etc. Some graduates went on to pretty good careers.
    Today, it is in the middle of a ghetto, surrounded by falling-down houses and out-of -business stores. A cop car was parked out front of the school all day, just in case.
    Really sad.

    Strangely, there is a white working class remnant in Baltimore. A study cited here a while back said they have an average IQ of 86.

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  147. @Anonymous
    Kat is usually short for Katherine - it's often kind of a preppy nickname. I wonder if Ms. Kat Chow is appropriating an American name. Hmmm. Not cool if she is.

    It seems that Cultural Appropriation is a thing even in the publishing industry:

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/04/the-gatekeepers-strike-back.html

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    @Charles Pewitt
    I don't feel no ways tired of thinking how delightful it is that we have President Donald Trump instead of President Hillary Clinton.


    Hillary Clinton Don't Feel No Ways Tired:

    https://youtu.be/Y-H9BOIYhgc

    Saw this one before. Very disturbing. Even more disturbing is the knowledge that 48% of the voters actually took this woman seriously.

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  149. @Corvinus
    "...his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities."

    Kat Chow, who is other than the cat's meow, is not related to Pussy Galore. On one hand, she is accurate to note that there are major differences between Asian groups. The educational attainment of Asian-American subgroups is markedly different. On the other hand, like her counterparts on the Alt Right, she has an overall racial and ethnic agenda.

    Now, ought colleges and universities move toward nuanced data collection to identify the unique problems for Asian-American subgroups, not all of which are doing as well as the "model minority" narrative suggests?

    OR, should these institutions continue to lump all Asians together to push the agenda that this group as a whole is smarter on average than whites, but prone to being beta simps in the relationship department?

    Such daunting questions that your average white American is no doubt pondering as we speak while eating at Panda Express.

    Yes, since I am partially a member of one of the Asian subgroups that isn’t doing as well as eastern Asians. I want free stuff, free tutition for my children, guaranteed entrance into Stanfors and access to minority government contracts.

    GIMME!

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  150. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Filipinos are the asian version of brazilians, a generally low to medium skilled immigrants that doesn’t seek racial identity in foreign countries as much as they seek better wages and a functioning society to live more favorably. They are nominal christians in a sense they aren’t as pious and conservative as they seem, but still follow their religion strongly by culture and belief. They aren’t bad workers, but also it’s not advisable to take them in numbers just because they seem to be “integrating”. They don’t do something exceptional that natives can’t do. Besides, what they do is usually keep their issues to themselves and behave in the host nation, but if things get dire economically, they are quick to return to their countries like any other economic migrant.

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  151. @Ripple Earthdevil
    They just need to be educated that blacks are fellow oppressed "people of color" with whom they have more in common with than either with the hated privileged white oppressor.

    Oh I’m sure Tiny will be along shortly to remind them of just that…..oh…..and demographics!

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  152. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @PiltdownMan
    I'm going to stand up for the Bhutanese (not the refugees, who are technically Bhutanese only under our laws).

    Bhutan does what we wish we could do.

    It keeps its culture and society intact by charging a large fee to all visitors, and discourages casual tourism. It has had a succession of enlightened rulers, who've made life as tolerable as possible in a traditional economy, and kept its independence wedged between two large, voracious neighbors, India (which annexed neighboring Sikkim in the 1970s) and China (which annexed neighboring Tibet in the 1950s) by keeping outsiders out, insofar as possible.

    They have this concept called the Gross National Happiness.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/world/asia/bhutan-gross-national-happiness-indicator-.html?_r=0

    These so-called Bhutanese "refugees" are actually non-Bhutanese speaking Nepalese illegal Lhotsampa immigrants whom the Bhutanese are in the process of have expelling or for whom the Bhutanese have made life very uncomfortable.

    Presumably, the presence of large numbers of illegal immigrants speaking a foreign language lowered the Gross National Happiness.

    The Nepalese started filtering into Bhutan mid-20th century.

    According to Wikipedia,

    In the 1940s, the British Political Officer Sir Basil Gould...warned...Bhutan House of the potential danger of allowing so many ethnic Nepalese to settle in southern Bhutan, he replied that "since they were not registered subjects they could be evicted whenever the need arose."

    While this is a deplorable thing for Bhutan to do to the wretched refuse on Bhutan's land-locked shores, I find not entirely incomprehensible. The real question here is, who had the bright idea of espousing the cause of these refugees and bringing them over to America, instead of settling them back in Nepal, in the midst of their culture and kith and kin?

    Other than a sense of ethnic-national unity by keeping close ties, there’s nothing else to be praising Bhutan which is a theocracy disguised legally as a constitutional parliamentary monarchy. A undeveloped, weak (despite their geographic advantage) and high isolationist country with harsh persecution of minorities (in case nepalese) is common and also adopts something as dubious and as “1984″-like cartoonish notion as Gross National Happiness isn’t to be taken as serious and peaceful. Although I don’t doubt people in Bhutan in general are “happy”, peaceful and used to the lifestyle there as much as the north koreans are with the Kim Dynasty and all of that is of their concern, not of anyone else, Bhutan is far from this paradise on Earth or simply a good example of how countries should behave.

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    You are correct but it is worth noting that this is by intention. Bhutan essentially diagnosed that the root of almost all modern ills, including the loss of national unity, was due to emphasis on maximizing individual capitalistic behavior which inevitably invites globalism as they see it: their argument is that it includes destruction of land for capital, reconfiguration of people for gdp generation, eventual reduction of the individual until things such as homosexual rights are logical as wage-earning potential is emphasized over everything else. I'm liable to agree with them.

    So essentially as with the Amish, the guiding directive is for a lower standard of living in order to live apart from what are basically become universalist norms.

    Hilariously, if it is indeed the case that globalism will kill us all, maybe in the far future, Bhutans and Amish will be the only human beings left.

  153. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Good question. Probably because the Nepalese didn't want them back, so just truck these surplus humans off to the North American landfill and dump them there. Of course, the geography is different, the culture is different, they have ZERO connection to the history and mythos, and they will be resentful and uncomfortable--a number will commit suicide. After a couple of generations the surviving kids will out-marry and play their own role in developing the Kwa anti-culture.

    And there you have it--from traditional Buddhist village life to soulless, atomized secularism in 3 - 4 generations. When their distinctive genotype goes extinct, we'll find another batch of exotics to toss into the soup.

    It's pathological and rapacious, as if everybody in the world must eventually become American.

    There are a number of “Nepalese-Bhutanese” here in Rochester, NY, mostly in the Lake Avenue area in the northwest of the city. I worked with a number of them at Strong Memorial Hospital.

    They are all Hindu, not Buddhist. They don’t look Bhutanese or dress as Bhutanese. I feel that the Bhutanese were wise to expel them while they still could (not that they were trouble-makers).

    I have a high opinion of them as “model” Asians: Hard-working, law-abiding, culture-retaining. They can be mildly friendly to White co-workers, once their natural reticence wears off. There is already considerable friction between their community (a real community) and the Black non-community. One Nepalese-Bhutanese was murdered by a Black in the city last year (in a street robbery that went from bad to worse), and it is no secret that they and the Blacks do not get along. Everyone knows this except the Nicewhite libtards.

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    Thanks for the correction. Nepalese Hindu kicked out of their Himalayan villages by the Buddhists and subsequently by the Bhutanese. So naturally they end up in Rochester, New York, victimized by black thugs and adrift in an alien culture. I can understand the high suicide rates.
  154. @Jack D
    A lot of call center work that used to be in India has now moved to the Philippines for the reasons you give - decent English and decent temperament for customer service work.

    The Philippines had a history as an American colony so they know something about American culture and how to interact with Americans.

    “A lot of call center work that used to be in India has now moved to the Philippines”

    It helps that customer details don’t seem to be passed on to fraudster types. The Indian ‘you have a computer virus’ scam cold-caller has generally got your details from a call centre.

    Last time I spoke to a Filipino call centre I was intrigued by hearing occasional announcements followed by applause in the background – I think every time someone got a customer signed up to a mobile contract the other staff had to clap.

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    The Indian ‘you have a computer virus’ scam cold-caller has generally got your details from a call centre.

    I doubt this. They just dial numbers in sequence until they get a live one - usually some senior citizen who is befuddled by computers.

    My favorite is are the "IRS " calls where they try to get you to pay your debt to the IRS using iTunes cards. Who knew that the US Treasury accepted iTunes cards as payment? How stupid can you be?
  155. But two of them are half Chinese, including Kat Chow. Bloody Chinese have already got the Indonesian etc economy, now ntitythey dominate the media taking about the about how complex Asian identities. The Chinese state is the made thing Butan is worried about, perhaps that is why there is no Bhutan/ Chinese commercial elite there.

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  156. The more I read iSteve, the more its obvious that the KKKrazy glue of hate whitey is the one thing that successfully gluing together this weird coalition of misfits. There’s something particularly disturbing to realize how white privilege has basically become the new Satanic worship – invisible but overwhelming, surrounding us with its adherents who silently do its bidding, as armies of witch-hunters set forth to write screeds of its supposed power, all while seeking to stamp out supposed heretics here and there.

    And like the witchfinders of yore, the new witchfinders are getting rich off by destroying the lives of the supposed witches.

    I was going to say, originally, that it seems nonsensical that East Asians would support SJW causes because generally speaking, we do best in a meritocracy. But no, that’s not true for many of us. Not when there’s a secondary and increasingly promising career path – especially for Asian women – in bash the whitey.

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  157. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Let me guess. Her husband's first name is Dog, whose penchant for the unspeakable 'chow down' technique of keeping doggie-daddy caddie-happy keeps Kat 'in the house'. Her canine master is only too glad to sign on to her kat-fight clawing, scratching and hair pulling.

    Kat, she is the daughter of "Chow and Lie" inaccurately rendered as Chou-En-Lai, the right-hand man of Chairman Meow, China's greatest mass murderer. But Chow and Lie seduced the whore Richard Nixon, and the seductress descended directly from the seductor. And she plies her wares at NPR.

    So there.

    Highly verbal Asian whose parents were lax enough that she didn’t go to medical school and wound up working at NPR? Yeah, I’m guessing her husband’s name is something like Robert. Or Keith.

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  158. @Anonymous
    Other than a sense of ethnic-national unity by keeping close ties, there's nothing else to be praising Bhutan which is a theocracy disguised legally as a constitutional parliamentary monarchy. A undeveloped, weak (despite their geographic advantage) and high isolationist country with harsh persecution of minorities (in case nepalese) is common and also adopts something as dubious and as "1984"-like cartoonish notion as Gross National Happiness isn't to be taken as serious and peaceful. Although I don't doubt people in Bhutan in general are "happy", peaceful and used to the lifestyle there as much as the north koreans are with the Kim Dynasty and all of that is of their concern, not of anyone else, Bhutan is far from this paradise on Earth or simply a good example of how countries should behave.

    You are correct but it is worth noting that this is by intention. Bhutan essentially diagnosed that the root of almost all modern ills, including the loss of national unity, was due to emphasis on maximizing individual capitalistic behavior which inevitably invites globalism as they see it: their argument is that it includes destruction of land for capital, reconfiguration of people for gdp generation, eventual reduction of the individual until things such as homosexual rights are logical as wage-earning potential is emphasized over everything else. I’m liable to agree with them.

    So essentially as with the Amish, the guiding directive is for a lower standard of living in order to live apart from what are basically become universalist norms.

    Hilariously, if it is indeed the case that globalism will kill us all, maybe in the far future, Bhutans and Amish will be the only human beings left.

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  159. @Jack D
    The other thread is pretty far down now, so more on M. Shadee Malaklou here:

    http://beloitcollegeroundtable.com/2016/10/24/new-professor-m-shadee-malaklou-teaches-revolution/

    New professor M. Shadee Malaklou teaches revolution
    OCT 24, 2016by LILLIE HERBSTin FEATURES
    Critical Identities Studies professor M. Shadee Malaklou seeks to fight injustice in the Beloit College and community. Pondering questions of gender, sexuality and race as they intersect with power has been a lifelong personal pursuit of Malaklou’s. Her childhood experiences with issues of identity led her to question how people treat others based on gender, sexuality, and race. While growing up in Orange County, Calif., her grandmother came from Iran to help raise her — and cultures clashed.


    One particular experience from kindergarten has stuck with her. “I had this girl who I thought was my best friend. … She had always given me crucifix necklaces that would remind me how we were different in some way. And I remember I really coveted the crucifix necklaces because it felt like a little bit of whiteness that I was getting,” she continued. “Then, after we had been friends for a little bit all of a sudden one day at recess she was like if you want to continue to be my friend you can’t speak that language to your grandmother, you can’t talk to her when she talks to you, you should dye your hair blonde, and wear blue contacts, you should bring normal foods to school, and I was just desperate to be her friend that I wanted so much to be read as white that I said yes. And so for like three days I did not speak to my grandmother. It literally still is a trauma that I deal with. Because I think here is this one woman who gave me all of my love, she’s the place I got all my support from because my mother couldn’t give it to me. And I was so quick and so ready to betray her because I wanted so much to be the person this girl was describing. So I think that I have literally spent my entire life trying to understand why I said yes to her.”
     

    ...By critically engaging with intersections of identity and power, she hopes education can inspire her students to create social change. “I want them to fuck shit up,” she said. “I want them to literally learn how to destroy the world that they knew and think about new sociality, new worldliness, and about ways of connecting to each other and to living things.”
     
    These people all had unhappy childhoods and are all nucking futs and they are imposing their mishegos (that's an Iranian word for nuttiness) on the rest of us. Wouldn't it have been better for her and her grandma to all have stayed in Iran where there are no blondes to make her feel ashamed of her brownness?

    This is drek.

    I’ve known more than my share of Persians and they’re all about as ethnic as slightly eccentric Italians.

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  160. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    There are a number of "Nepalese-Bhutanese" here in Rochester, NY, mostly in the Lake Avenue area in the northwest of the city. I worked with a number of them at Strong Memorial Hospital.

    They are all Hindu, not Buddhist. They don't look Bhutanese or dress as Bhutanese. I feel that the Bhutanese were wise to expel them while they still could (not that they were trouble-makers).

    I have a high opinion of them as "model" Asians: Hard-working, law-abiding, culture-retaining. They can be mildly friendly to White co-workers, once their natural reticence wears off. There is already considerable friction between their community (a real community) and the Black non-community. One Nepalese-Bhutanese was murdered by a Black in the city last year (in a street robbery that went from bad to worse), and it is no secret that they and the Blacks do not get along. Everyone knows this except the Nicewhite libtards.

    Thanks for the correction. Nepalese Hindu kicked out of their Himalayan villages by the Buddhists and subsequently by the Bhutanese. So naturally they end up in Rochester, New York, victimized by black thugs and adrift in an alien culture. I can understand the high suicide rates.

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  161. @biz
    Bhutan is the happiest country in the world. It is a tiny, mono-ethnic, Buddhist, parliamentary monarchy with a high GDP and something called a Gross National Happiness that they calculate every year. Why would someone want to emigrate from there?

    Because of bloody hordes of Chinese tourists turning into a fun park. Chinese traders breeding a mixed over class will be next

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  162. @Uncle Peregrine
    I like how in the video, the two women claiming Jungle Asian Pokemon points are from the Fancy Asian overseas Chinese minorities in their countries.

    Yeah, it seems that just as Steve as has pointed out that in the West the SJW racket is 1) very competitive, and 2) usually favors people who are already doing well, so in Asia the overseas Chinese who are already outperforming everyone else are occupying the safe spaces that are supposed to help downtrodden Malays and New Guineans.

    So overseas Chinese SJWs are Asia’s answer to America’s mulatto and Igbo diversitcrats.

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  163. @Alden
    Iranians are White. They know it and in no way do they identify with any non White group. Although they mostly have dark hair they are not particularly dark skinned.

    What a liar how many crucifix necklaces could one 5 year old have to give away. The tale reminds me of Tiger Wood's tale that in kindergarten he was attacked and tied to a tree by evil White 6 graders.

    His kindergarten teacher said it never happened. But everyone who attended an American school knew it was a lie because the kindergarten is separate from the rest of the school and the kindergarten yards are surrounded by locked fences.

    Lots of 40 year old high school and college teachers tell students that segregation didn't end until about 2000 and that when they were young they were denied service in a bar or restaurant or denied lodging in a hotel or denied a rental car because they were black.

    It's all lies of course but that is what is taught, lies upon lies upon lies.

    Strictly speaking, what happened to M. (I wonder what M. stands for?) Shadee may not be the truth but it is HER truth.

    I said that Shadee is nuts and everyone responded that she is a liar – I would say that the two are not mutually exclusive. ¿Por qué no los dos?

    The real question is why is someone like this, who has clearly sublimated their own body image issues, troubled relationships with parents, etc. into some sort of warped political doctrine, allowed to teach vulnerable young people? (OTOH, if you disqualified all “feminists” who did not have Mommy/Daddy issues that gave impetus to their feminism in the 1st place, that wouldn’t leave many feminists. Compared to say Shulamith Firestone, M. Shadee is a paragon of sanity).

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  164. @Anonymous Nephew
    "A lot of call center work that used to be in India has now moved to the Philippines"

    It helps that customer details don't seem to be passed on to fraudster types. The Indian 'you have a computer virus' scam cold-caller has generally got your details from a call centre.

    Last time I spoke to a Filipino call centre I was intrigued by hearing occasional announcements followed by applause in the background - I think every time someone got a customer signed up to a mobile contract the other staff had to clap.

    The Indian ‘you have a computer virus’ scam cold-caller has generally got your details from a call centre.

    I doubt this. They just dial numbers in sequence until they get a live one – usually some senior citizen who is befuddled by computers.

    My favorite is are the “IRS ” calls where they try to get you to pay your debt to the IRS using iTunes cards. Who knew that the US Treasury accepted iTunes cards as payment? How stupid can you be?

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    My favorite is are the “IRS ” calls where they try to get you to pay your debt to the IRS using iTunes cards. Who knew that the US Treasury accepted iTunes cards as payment? How stupid can you be?
     
    I assume you have heard the theory that scams are stupid so only stupid people will respond?
    For example: https://plus.google.com/110300059908499284579/posts/ScJb9T22CnU

    I wonder how much per name a contact list of people stupid enough to fall for scams like these is worth.
  165. @Alden
    NPR? But of course; the blathering that all Asians are not the same but Whites don't know this has been recycled again and again for the last 40 years. The worst is the assumption that Whites are so ignorant we don't know there are many ethnicities in Asia.

    And we're supposed to hang our heads in shame and intone my fault my fault my most grievous fault for whatever we did, said or thought.

    It’s really funny that we are not supposed to notice the macro differences but are expected to notice the micro differences.

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    It’s really funny that we are not supposed to notice the macro differences but are expected to notice the micro differences.
     
    That's right, because noting "micro" differences is being cosmopolitan and cultured while noting "macro" differences is ugly KKK racism and white supremacy.
  166. @Jack D
    The Indian ‘you have a computer virus’ scam cold-caller has generally got your details from a call centre.

    I doubt this. They just dial numbers in sequence until they get a live one - usually some senior citizen who is befuddled by computers.

    My favorite is are the "IRS " calls where they try to get you to pay your debt to the IRS using iTunes cards. Who knew that the US Treasury accepted iTunes cards as payment? How stupid can you be?

    My favorite is are the “IRS ” calls where they try to get you to pay your debt to the IRS using iTunes cards. Who knew that the US Treasury accepted iTunes cards as payment? How stupid can you be?

    I assume you have heard the theory that scams are stupid so only stupid people will respond?
    For example: https://plus.google.com/110300059908499284579/posts/ScJb9T22CnU

    I wonder how much per name a contact list of people stupid enough to fall for scams like these is worth.

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  167. @Captain Tripps
    Ali Wong is simply pointing out that Asians have their own cold civil war between GoodYellows (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) and BadYellows (Phillipinos, Vietnamese, Thai, Lao, Cambodian, Indonesian). With interesting conflict sub-dynamics within those ethnic groups as well (coastal urban Chinese having contempt for their hicks-in-the-sticks brethren upland, like our NE WASP/Jewish elites hate the Appalachian/mid-south Scots/Scots-Irish). Sullivan does paint with too broad a brush, but its not anywhere near the level of outrage-worthiness Kat Chow thinks it deserves.

    Would wager that East Africans feel the same (i.e. look down their noses) about West and Sub-Saharan Africans too.

    Chow doesn’t care about Sullivan’s broad brush. Her beef is that he’s giving comfort to the enemy and endangering her gang’s position. In this case, she counters with the “life’s more complicated than that” ploy, but she could just as easily go with “everyone’s the same” if it suited her purposes.

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  168. @Jack D
    That's even more far fetched. Chicken is really cheap because they eat really cheap food and convert it to meat in a matter of weeks. Do you know how much expensive cat food you need to grow a lb. of cat?

    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.

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    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.
    , @Ivy
    Cats were sold as rabbits in WWII markets in Europe, for example, when food was scarce. The skeletons are similar, so discerning buyers insisted that the heads be left on. When people are hungry, palates become more flexible. Squirrel and possum don't seem appetizing to the average person, but the choice of that or no protein could quiet an empty stomach for a while. Cat isn't much of a stretch in such cases, and no, I'm not recommending eating pets, just probing the end points.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Johann Ricke

    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.
     
    There's no question they eat cats (and dogs). But the Chinese may not consider these inferior meats. A quick search showed that, in the past several years, dog meat was available at a low price of 26 yuan per kg compared 18 yuan a kg for pork. Now, this is in China, where selling canine and feline meat is not against the law, and acquiring the meat is merely a matter of going to the local butcher. Stateside, the cost of buying these meats for personal consumption is likely to be prohibitive, because of the legal issues involved. Its rarity, combined with its premium status among the Chinese, suggests that you are unlikely to be served dog meat at the local takeout - if the proprietors have access to it, they are likely to have cooked and eaten it at home:

    People in China have been eating dog meat for a long time, even though it’s a relatively expensive affair. During the Spring and Autumn Period (770-476 BC), King Goujian of the Yue Kingdom, before going to war against the Wu Kingdom, awarded dogs to women who gave birth to boys and pigs to those who gave birth to girls. Dog meat cost more than pork even then.

    According to Records of the Grand Historian, Fan Kuai, a senior military general who helped found the Western Han Dynasty (206 BC-AD 24), made a living as a dog butcher when he was young.

    Many consider dog meat not only a delicacy, but also to have medicinal properties. Bencao Gangmu (or Compendium of Materia Medica), the seminal work of medical and pharmaceutical expert Li Shizhen of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), describes dog meat as warm, yang-nourishing and especially beneficial for the kidneys and stomach.

    Eating dog meat is a socially acceptable practice in parts of southern China. Believed to have medicinal qualities, dog meat is consumed as a energizer food, providing warmth in the winter months, as well as helping cure fatigue, low back pain, poor memory and slow digestion in older men. (Interestingly, and paradoxically, dog meat is eaten in South Korea during the summer months to cool the body down.) Dog skin and gallstones are used to strengthen the body or heal sickness, dog penis and testes are used for impotence and lowered sex drive, and dog kidney is consumed to cure impotence and premature ejaculation. The bones of dogs are sometimes used as an alternative to tiger bone to treat rheumatism. Although dog meat is not seen at dinner tables as much as pork, beef or other kinds of white meat, some parts of China still favor the canine dish – especially in the northeast along the border with Korea and in the southern provinces of Guizhou and Guangdong. Traditionally confined primarily to southern China and a few spots in the eastern coastal province of Jiangsu, the practice of eating dog began to spread throughout China in the late 1980s as the country became more affluent. Many people view less superior breeds of dogs as edible “meat dogs,” even while having pet dogs themselves.
     

  169. @matt
    According to the American Community Survey, the poverty rate for Chinese-Americans was 15.4% in 2015, higher than the white non-Hispanic poverty rate of 10.4%. Presumably, Koreans also count as "fancy Asians", but 13.4% of Korean-Americans had incomes below the poverty line, also higher than the white rate.

    (Click here; go to "Advanced Search", click "race/ancestry"; search for "Chinese Alone", "Korean Alone", and "All available non-Hispanic Origin by Race"; click on "topics" and search for "poverty"; then click on the first item labeled "SELECTED POPULATION PROFILE IN THE UNITED STATES" for the year 2015; ctrl+f search for "poverty"; look at the row labeled "All people".)

    Filipino-Americans had a poverty rate of just 6.5% in 2015, a good deal lower than the non-hispanic white rate, and lower even than the Japanese-American rate of 8.3%, to say nothing of the much higher Chinese- and Korean-American poverty rates.

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    @Tom-in-VA
    Aren't the Gurkhas from Nepal? These are people with whom I would not fuck.

    Australian troops who served with Gurkhas as peacekeepers in East Timor considered them poor soldiers- they are just too dumb.
    The British used them because of an unusual characteristic: unlike white people who are not psychopaths, the Nepalese never get tired of killing other people.
    Disagreements that would resolve uneventfully in the West, frequently result in murder in Nepal.

    Ethnically, these people are Tibetans, Tibet used to be much bigger in the past.
    America has NFL and the Super Bowl, Nepal has the Gadhimai Festival.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2852739/Nepal-devotees-sacrifice-thousands-animals-Hindu-ritual.html.
    Removing these people from their homelands to the U.S. for humanitarian reasons just doesn’t make any sense.

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    Australian troops who served with Gurkhas as peacekeepers in East Timor considered them poor soldiers- they are just too dumb.
     
    That's not true at all. They are not rocket scientists, but then again it doesn't take rocket scientists to make good combat infantrymen.

    Gurkhas are generally well-disciplined and courageous, and perform their duties very well. And they don't break easily. In other words, they may not make great chiefs, but they make great Indians.

    About the only problem the British ever had with them was that they USED to be poor swimmers, but once this issue was discovered, it was remedied promptly.
  171. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/most-millennials-are-finding-it-hard-transition-adulthood-report-n748676

    Trans from male to female? No problem.

    Trans from kid to adult?

    Noooooooo!!

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Adulting, or as older people called it, growing up.
    Overheard in Life 101 class: will that be on the test?
  172. @Clark Westwood
    Remember the crash of Asiana Flight 214? Some news person got canned for not realizing that the pilots' "names" that were handed to her were a joke before she read them live on the air.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GbGmDORwk

    So now if some news reader refuses to say "Kat Chow" on the air on the grounds that such a ridiculous name has to be a joke, will that person also get canned (for insensitivity to Ms Chow and her "culture's" naming conventions)?

    That still makes me laugh!

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  173. @Tom-in-VA
    The Queen of Bhutan is very pretty, and the King looks like Asian Elvis.

    http://i.imgur.com/HsnyS.jpg

    So, I am guessing your f\/cking prohibition does not apply to the Queen.

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  174. @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.

    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.

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    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.
     
    Here's my list of Asians and their Western equivalents:

    Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.

    Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Taiwanese = If the Chinese are Asian Russians, the Taiwanese are Asian Serbo-Croats. They do well economically, but have the highest murder rate in East Asia.

    Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.

    Indochinese (Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians) = Asian Balkans, I suppose. But really Asian Salvadorans. Some of them work hard, others join violent gangs. Still others (if from the mountains) hunt people in the woods.

    Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.

    Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.

    Indonesians/Malaysians = Asian North Africans. Most are mellow, but the religious ones are scary.

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don't litter - or you will pay a fine!
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, I have been told that I suffer criticism poorly, so I will mull this over before I comment on Filipinos as the New Italians. Hmmmm.
  175. @Achmed E. Newman
    Glad someone's been paying attention ;-}, but are you telling me that Africa is included in "Oriental", or "Indian" (dot variety)? You know they aren't, but they are in the Eastern Hemisphere. That doesn't work out.

    I do realize that "Oriental" used to include some Middle Eastern lands (hence the "Oriental Express" name for the railroad, that I had previously thought, before reading a comment here on unz, had gone on to China (yeah, I know). I do learn stuff here, but I'm gonna stick with "Oriental" and hope it catches back on. It's the best term, really, for anyone with the features seen in people from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. (Indonesia and Malaysia would be questionable on this.)

    I do learn stuff here, but I’m gonna stick with “Oriental” and hope it catches back on. It’s the best term, really, for anyone with the features seen in people from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. (Indonesia and Malaysia would be questionable on this.)

    So Oriental rugs are made in East Asia, instead of Iran?

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    I imagine most Oriental rugs are made in China*, which is indeed in the eastern portion of the continent of Asia, if that's what you're trying to say.

    * It'd be good to check the tag, and also the packaging and make sure it doesn't have a Shenzhen From-Address. They may be making these rugs out on the sidewalk, at the same spot where they burned my 5 seasons of "The Office" for 15 RMB for me - about 2 Schrute bucks. It's the same spot where they manufacture all those knock-off Coach handbags. I don't understand why women want to have this crap, whether genuine or knock-off

    Now, about the Schrute-bucks, this is NOT from China (the guy videoing off his damn TV set), but still funny:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv_EwU8-3Gs

  176. @Jack D
    A lot of call center work that used to be in India has now moved to the Philippines for the reasons you give - decent English and decent temperament for customer service work.

    The Philippines had a history as an American colony so they know something about American culture and how to interact with Americans.

    The Philippines had a history as an American colony

    Setting aside the Canadians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, and Koreans are the most highly assimilating ethnics among the 10 largest immigrant groups in the U.S. Guess what? All three had significant and sustained American military presence (and South Korea still has it).

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  177. @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.

    Cats were sold as rabbits in WWII markets in Europe, for example, when food was scarce. The skeletons are similar, so discerning buyers insisted that the heads be left on. When people are hungry, palates become more flexible. Squirrel and possum don’t seem appetizing to the average person, but the choice of that or no protein could quiet an empty stomach for a while. Cat isn’t much of a stretch in such cases, and no, I’m not recommending eating pets, just probing the end points.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Medieval and right up to modern times European consumer protection laws mandated that rabbit and poultry had to be sold whole and with the heads still on.

    That way the buyer knew it was a rabbit instead of a cat and if it was a duck, goose etc
    The condition of the head was also a good indication of how long ago it was slaughtered.
  178. @res
    It's really funny that we are not supposed to notice the macro differences but are expected to notice the micro differences.

    It’s really funny that we are not supposed to notice the macro differences but are expected to notice the micro differences.

    That’s right, because noting “micro” differences is being cosmopolitan and cultured while noting “macro” differences is ugly KKK racism and white supremacy.

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  179. @Anon
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/most-millennials-are-finding-it-hard-transition-adulthood-report-n748676

    Trans from male to female? No problem.

    Trans from kid to adult?

    Noooooooo!!

    Adulting, or as older people called it, growing up.
    Overheard in Life 101 class: will that be on the test?

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  180. @anon
    Australian troops who served with Gurkhas as peacekeepers in East Timor considered them poor soldiers- they are just too dumb.
    The British used them because of an unusual characteristic: unlike white people who are not psychopaths, the Nepalese never get tired of killing other people.
    Disagreements that would resolve uneventfully in the West, frequently result in murder in Nepal.

    Ethnically, these people are Tibetans, Tibet used to be much bigger in the past.
    America has NFL and the Super Bowl, Nepal has the Gadhimai Festival.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2852739/Nepal-devotees-sacrifice-thousands-animals-Hindu-ritual.html.
    Removing these people from their homelands to the U.S. for humanitarian reasons just doesn't make any sense.

    Australian troops who served with Gurkhas as peacekeepers in East Timor considered them poor soldiers- they are just too dumb.

    That’s not true at all. They are not rocket scientists, but then again it doesn’t take rocket scientists to make good combat infantrymen.

    Gurkhas are generally well-disciplined and courageous, and perform their duties very well. And they don’t break easily. In other words, they may not make great chiefs, but they make great Indians.

    About the only problem the British ever had with them was that they USED to be poor swimmers, but once this issue was discovered, it was remedied promptly.

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  181. anon:

    The British used them because of an unusual characteristic: unlike white people who are not psychopaths, the Nepalese never get tired of killing other people.

    You really don’t know any Russians, do you?

    twinkie:

    Gurkhas are generally well-disciplined and courageous, and perform their duties very well. And they don’t break easily. In other words, they may not make great chiefs, but they make great Indians.

    I thought they were Nepalese, not Indians. (And please don’t say Nepalian.)

    And don’t Tibetans have super-powers such as levitation?

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    I thought they were Nepalese, not Indians.
     
    They ARE Nepalese.

    You don't get the chief/Indians thing?
  182. @Steve Sailer
    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.

    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.

    Here’s my list of Asians and their Western equivalents:

    Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.

    Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Taiwanese = If the Chinese are Asian Russians, the Taiwanese are Asian Serbo-Croats. They do well economically, but have the highest murder rate in East Asia.

    Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.

    Indochinese (Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians) = Asian Balkans, I suppose. But really Asian Salvadorans. Some of them work hard, others join violent gangs. Still others (if from the mountains) hunt people in the woods.

    Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.

    Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.

    Indonesians/Malaysians = Asian North Africans. Most are mellow, but the religious ones are scary.

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don’t litter – or you will pay a fine!

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    That was both funny and informative. Thanks.

    This struck me given your experience being able to find common ground with your WV neighbors (I'm reading Albion's Seed right now so attuned to this sort of observation).

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.
     
    Is the overall implied commentary on Japanese/Chinese/Korean relations intentional? (i.e. Europe at war, Asia at war)
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    The Singaporean/Swiss comparison is especially unassailable; well done!
    , @Anon
    "Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all."

    More like Asian Germans(before Germans completely lost it). Combination of order and the irrational.

    "Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines."

    Your formulation is problematic because you list Chinese, Taiwanese, and Singaporeans separately. They are one people. Sure, they differ, like Anglos differ across UK and among US, UK, Australia, and etc.

    Also, keep in mind that most smaller East Asian nations have powerful Chinese minorities who are economically dominant. The ONLY exceptions are Japan and Korea, maybe because of same IQ and Confucian cultural influence. Vietnam is an odd case. It's somewhere between Japan/Korea and other Southeast Asian nations. Racially, Core Viets are like extension of Southern Chinese. For one thing, Chinese(especially Cantonese) and Vietnamese belong in same language family. In contrast, Japan-Korea-Mongolia belong to another language family.
    Viets are more capable than other SE Asians, but Chinese were once economically dominant, especially as middlemen under the French(and in South Vietnam as middlemen for the US).
    The Boat People tragedy kicked a lot of Chinese out of Vietnam, but I hear there is a considerable Chinese presence in Vietnam still.

    "Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage."

    Liable to fall apart? But they remained together for a long time. I think their last dynasty survived for 600 yrs, which is a lot longer than Tokugawa.
    All the internecine fighting in the 20th century was, to a large measure, the result of foreign intervention. Japanese rule divided the nation between collaborators and resisters. And then US and USSR divided the nation. As North Korea was totalitarian, it created a unified state. South Korea was autocratic but free enough to allow every side to make themselves heard. Much of the problem is due to crisis of legitimacy. The left lost moral legitimacy cuz of discredited communism. The right was tainted with collaboration with Japan and then with US that backed dictatorship. Globalism also divided Korea.
    And say goodbye to Anglo tutelage, which was pretty good(for many nations). US is now Judeo-Homo, and its influence is messing up entire nations. Also, US is now pushing diversity on every nation. It didn't in the past. This poison makes US influence deadly.

    "Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side."

    Come on! Italians have lots of problems, but they are still a great people. Filipinos are among the silliest people in the world. I mean, have you dealt with the Filos? Their entire culture consists of third rate imitation of worst of US pop culture. In the late 7os, there were bunch of Filipino kids in our school, and they were just the goofiest, shallowest, crassest dufuses I've ever seen. Give Italians credit for art, creativity, design, taste, style, etc.
    Filos have NONE of that. Their women are a bunch of whores, and the guys are like Asian Mexicans. When I moved to the suburbs with lots of Jews, there were a few Filo kids, and Jews called them 'Oriental Spicks'. Howard Stern has a chapter on Filipinos in his book PRIVATE PARTS. Unfair but not entirely inaccurate.
    One advantage they have over other immigrants is English proficiency. The kids who freshly arrived could speak English though with accent. This makes Filipinos useful workers in many fields. They have a basic grasp of English.

    "Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food."

    I don't know much about Thailand, but when I think of Thai, I think of Thigh. Isn't the nation like one big Saigon during the War? It's a nation where prostitution is like the national economy. And they got silly stuff, like transvestite volley ball team. A silly people.

    "Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists."

    Not really. Arabs are mixed, and Near East is varied in ethnicity and demographics, but it's nothing like in India. Also, Islam had a leveling effect among many people.
    In contrast, India was defined by Hinduism and race-caste system. Over time, peoples did mix along caste lines, but the historical effects are still felt. I would say India is most like South America with its defacto caste system which is really poisonous.
    It's impossible to talk of Indians as if they're one people. Some are as low as Africans. Some are 'Aryan'. Personally, I think India is a horrible formula for a civilization. Great spiritual ideas and artistic traditions came out of India, but it's a mess.

    "Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don’t litter – or you will pay a fine!"

    Angloized Chinese.

    You left out Hong Kongese.

    , @Reg Cæsar

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss
     
    One yuuuuge difference, though:

    Singapore has one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. According to the Arms Offences Act, unlawful possession or carrying of firearms is punishable with imprisonment and caning. Using or attempting to use arms when committing a scheduled offense is punishable with death.

    https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/singapore.php
    , @Anon
    No one ever mentions Ceylon* ....

    I'm going to go cry in a corner now.

    *I was going to phrase this as a reference to "No-one expects the Spanish inquisition": but in fact the Inquisition (as an extension of the Goanese Inquisition) was briefly active in Portuguese Ceylon, during which time people presumably did expect it.
  183. @Twinkie

    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.
     
    Here's my list of Asians and their Western equivalents:

    Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.

    Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Taiwanese = If the Chinese are Asian Russians, the Taiwanese are Asian Serbo-Croats. They do well economically, but have the highest murder rate in East Asia.

    Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.

    Indochinese (Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians) = Asian Balkans, I suppose. But really Asian Salvadorans. Some of them work hard, others join violent gangs. Still others (if from the mountains) hunt people in the woods.

    Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.

    Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.

    Indonesians/Malaysians = Asian North Africans. Most are mellow, but the religious ones are scary.

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don't litter - or you will pay a fine!

    That was both funny and informative. Thanks.

    This struck me given your experience being able to find common ground with your WV neighbors (I’m reading Albion’s Seed right now so attuned to this sort of observation).

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Is the overall implied commentary on Japanese/Chinese/Korean relations intentional? (i.e. Europe at war, Asia at war)

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    "Is the overall implied commentary on Japanese/Chinese/Korean relations intentional? (i.e. Europe at war, Asia at war)"

    Because China was such a major power, most neighboring nations never challenged it. Korea in north was a vassal kingdom. Vietnam in south was like a vassal kingdom too. But things got messy with Vietnam. Unlike Korea, a peninsula nation, Vietnam was adjoined to Laos and Cambodia. Vietnam encroached on Cambodia, and Cambodians asked Chinese for help, and Chinese urged Vietnamese to behave, and Vietnamese said, 'yes master', but then took more of Cambodia, and then China intervened and Viets fought back, and etc. Maybe things would have been less troublesome if Vietnam was a peninsula like Korea.

    China's only real problem was with Mongols and barbarians of the north who, like nomadic Arabs, took advantage of weakness during times of crisis.

    As for Japan, it minded its own business usually. Its two great forays into continental Asia was triggered by Western influence. Hideoyoshi was armed by Europeans who supported his attempted invasion as a means to spread Christianity and western influence. Western firearms gave Japan a great advantage in the war.
    And in the 20th century, Japan imitated the great imperialist powers and believed it can't be a great power without an empire.
    , @Twinkie

    That was both funny and informative. Thanks.
     
    Thanks for taking it well. I get the feeling some people took it seriously.

    This struck me given your experience being able to find common ground with your WV neighbors
     
    Or it's just me. As my wife puts it, "Beneath all that polished exterior lies the soul of a hillbilly."

    Albion’s Seed
     
    Koreans are the Irishmen of ASIA. That is, they are sort of like Scots-Irish in relation to other Asians. They aren't, you know, actual Appalachian Scotch-Irish. For one thing, theirs is a highly urban culture - Koreans are generally not hillbillies (unless we are talking about those Koreans from the very mountainous province in the east).

    My suspicion is, to the extent that the Koreans are similar to the Irish, much of it has to do with historical circumstances. Modern Irish sentimentality seems to have been formed by the experience of English colonialism, suffering, resistance, independence, and latter-day economic success (with occasional bumps and bruises)... much the way modern Koreans derive their sensibility from Japanese occupation, war, and their more recent economic "miracle." Both peoples seem to have soulful folk music befitting of those who have lived under the gun of a stronger power nearby (or, in the case of Koreans, "a shrimp caught between two whales").

    Well, that, and they are some of the hardest drinking people in the world.
  184. @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.
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    "Some Chinese are really into hot dogs."

    And God permits this?

    Is life worth living?

    This is Heart of Darkness level stuff.

    Exterminate all the brutes.
  185. @Ed
    Evidently the Filipinos have the lowest poverty rate among Asian ethnic groups, according to the chart making the rounds.

    It's odd when you first think about it because you don't see too many high achieving Filipinos. However the more I thought of it the more it made sense. They're an older immigrant group. They're also solidly working class and above. Here in the DC area they're concentrated in Southern MD and dominate the nursing industry. They do intermarry and in DC area often with blacks.

    There aren’t a lot of famous Filipinos in America, but they do pretty well on school test scores and the like.

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  186. @Johan Meyer
    The Bhutanese refugees are ethnic Nepalis from whom Bhutan was ethnically cleansed. Hence the "the happiest country on earth" propaganda. Largely Hindu (remainder Buddhist), hence not as worthy of sympathy as the Muslim Rohingya, whose situation is otherwise similar (Aryan/North Indians removed from predominantly Sino-Tibetan regions, namely Bhutan and Myanmar, respectively). The able-bodied were moved largely to the US (e.g. Rochester NY), while those with physical disabilities were moved to Regina, Saskatchewan.

    Both Nepalese and Bhutanese are of Tibetan stock and speak Sino-Tibetan languages.

    Bhutan unlike Nepal does not currently seem to be infected with competing cults of 1970s communism (Maoists vs. Leninists). Aggressive political and business practices is probably why Bhutan decided the Nepalese had to go.

    Like all self-regarding ethnic minorities, the Bhutan Nepalese would never consider returning to their fair ancestral land and instead opted to join the welfare class in Rochester, New York, courtesy of Community Organizer Barry.

    Count on a rising generation of Bhutan-Nepalese SJW infesting America’s third-rate colleges and teacher training schools (but I repeat myself).

    Meanwhile, the Bhutanese no doubt congratulate themselves each time they read about the meowings of Kat Chow and her co-ethnics in far-away America. Bhutan had a narrow escape this time.

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    Nepali language is Aryan/Sanskrit---were the Bhutanese Nepalis Sino-Tibetan? I know Newari (language of Nepal) is Sino-Tibetan.
  187. @Jack D
    That's even more far fetched. Chicken is really cheap because they eat really cheap food and convert it to meat in a matter of weeks. Do you know how much expensive cat food you need to grow a lb. of cat?

    Jack, see my reply to Buffalo Joe.

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  188. @Twinkie

    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.
     
    Here's my list of Asians and their Western equivalents:

    Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.

    Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Taiwanese = If the Chinese are Asian Russians, the Taiwanese are Asian Serbo-Croats. They do well economically, but have the highest murder rate in East Asia.

    Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.

    Indochinese (Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians) = Asian Balkans, I suppose. But really Asian Salvadorans. Some of them work hard, others join violent gangs. Still others (if from the mountains) hunt people in the woods.

    Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.

    Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.

    Indonesians/Malaysians = Asian North Africans. Most are mellow, but the religious ones are scary.

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don't litter - or you will pay a fine!

    The Singaporean/Swiss comparison is especially unassailable; well done!

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    @Twinkie

    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.
     
    Here's my list of Asians and their Western equivalents:

    Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.

    Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Taiwanese = If the Chinese are Asian Russians, the Taiwanese are Asian Serbo-Croats. They do well economically, but have the highest murder rate in East Asia.

    Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.

    Indochinese (Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians) = Asian Balkans, I suppose. But really Asian Salvadorans. Some of them work hard, others join violent gangs. Still others (if from the mountains) hunt people in the woods.

    Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.

    Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.

    Indonesians/Malaysians = Asian North Africans. Most are mellow, but the religious ones are scary.

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don't litter - or you will pay a fine!

    “Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.”

    More like Asian Germans(before Germans completely lost it). Combination of order and the irrational.

    “Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.”

    Your formulation is problematic because you list Chinese, Taiwanese, and Singaporeans separately. They are one people. Sure, they differ, like Anglos differ across UK and among US, UK, Australia, and etc.

    Also, keep in mind that most smaller East Asian nations have powerful Chinese minorities who are economically dominant. The ONLY exceptions are Japan and Korea, maybe because of same IQ and Confucian cultural influence. Vietnam is an odd case. It’s somewhere between Japan/Korea and other Southeast Asian nations. Racially, Core Viets are like extension of Southern Chinese. For one thing, Chinese(especially Cantonese) and Vietnamese belong in same language family. In contrast, Japan-Korea-Mongolia belong to another language family.
    Viets are more capable than other SE Asians, but Chinese were once economically dominant, especially as middlemen under the French(and in South Vietnam as middlemen for the US).
    The Boat People tragedy kicked a lot of Chinese out of Vietnam, but I hear there is a considerable Chinese presence in Vietnam still.

    “Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.”

    Liable to fall apart? But they remained together for a long time. I think their last dynasty survived for 600 yrs, which is a lot longer than Tokugawa.
    All the internecine fighting in the 20th century was, to a large measure, the result of foreign intervention. Japanese rule divided the nation between collaborators and resisters. And then US and USSR divided the nation. As North Korea was totalitarian, it created a unified state. South Korea was autocratic but free enough to allow every side to make themselves heard. Much of the problem is due to crisis of legitimacy. The left lost moral legitimacy cuz of discredited communism. The right was tainted with collaboration with Japan and then with US that backed dictatorship. Globalism also divided Korea.
    And say goodbye to Anglo tutelage, which was pretty good(for many nations). US is now Judeo-Homo, and its influence is messing up entire nations. Also, US is now pushing diversity on every nation. It didn’t in the past. This poison makes US influence deadly.

    “Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.”

    Come on! Italians have lots of problems, but they are still a great people. Filipinos are among the silliest people in the world. I mean, have you dealt with the Filos? Their entire culture consists of third rate imitation of worst of US pop culture. In the late 7os, there were bunch of Filipino kids in our school, and they were just the goofiest, shallowest, crassest dufuses I’ve ever seen. Give Italians credit for art, creativity, design, taste, style, etc.
    Filos have NONE of that. Their women are a bunch of whores, and the guys are like Asian Mexicans. When I moved to the suburbs with lots of Jews, there were a few Filo kids, and Jews called them ‘Oriental Spicks’. Howard Stern has a chapter on Filipinos in his book PRIVATE PARTS. Unfair but not entirely inaccurate.
    One advantage they have over other immigrants is English proficiency. The kids who freshly arrived could speak English though with accent. This makes Filipinos useful workers in many fields. They have a basic grasp of English.

    “Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.”

    I don’t know much about Thailand, but when I think of Thai, I think of Thigh. Isn’t the nation like one big Saigon during the War? It’s a nation where prostitution is like the national economy. And they got silly stuff, like transvestite volley ball team. A silly people.

    “Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.”

    Not really. Arabs are mixed, and Near East is varied in ethnicity and demographics, but it’s nothing like in India. Also, Islam had a leveling effect among many people.
    In contrast, India was defined by Hinduism and race-caste system. Over time, peoples did mix along caste lines, but the historical effects are still felt. I would say India is most like South America with its defacto caste system which is really poisonous.
    It’s impossible to talk of Indians as if they’re one people. Some are as low as Africans. Some are ‘Aryan’. Personally, I think India is a horrible formula for a civilization. Great spiritual ideas and artistic traditions came out of India, but it’s a mess.

    “Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don’t litter – or you will pay a fine!”

    Angloized Chinese.

    You left out Hong Kongese.

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    You left out Hong Kongese.
     
    St. Petersburg? Oh, wait. That's Shanghai.
  190. @Anon
    Your Pavlovian obsessions are not our problem.

    Jesus, you should see someone (The Departed)

    Your Pavlovian obsessions are not our problem

    I’m just amazed anyone thinks Andrew Sullivan is relevant in 2017. He belongs in the 90s file drawer with Vincent Foster and Sheryl Crow.

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  191. @Twinkie

    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.
     
    Here's my list of Asians and their Western equivalents:

    Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.

    Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Taiwanese = If the Chinese are Asian Russians, the Taiwanese are Asian Serbo-Croats. They do well economically, but have the highest murder rate in East Asia.

    Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.

    Indochinese (Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians) = Asian Balkans, I suppose. But really Asian Salvadorans. Some of them work hard, others join violent gangs. Still others (if from the mountains) hunt people in the woods.

    Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.

    Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.

    Indonesians/Malaysians = Asian North Africans. Most are mellow, but the religious ones are scary.

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don't litter - or you will pay a fine!

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss

    One yuuuuge difference, though:

    Singapore has one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. According to the Arms Offences Act, unlawful possession or carrying of firearms is punishable with imprisonment and caning. Using or attempting to use arms when committing a scheduled offense is punishable with death.

    https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/singapore.php

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    One yuuuuge difference
     
    You mean aside from appearance, gene pool, language, culture, etc.?
  192. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @res
    That was both funny and informative. Thanks.

    This struck me given your experience being able to find common ground with your WV neighbors (I'm reading Albion's Seed right now so attuned to this sort of observation).

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.
     
    Is the overall implied commentary on Japanese/Chinese/Korean relations intentional? (i.e. Europe at war, Asia at war)

    “Is the overall implied commentary on Japanese/Chinese/Korean relations intentional? (i.e. Europe at war, Asia at war)”

    Because China was such a major power, most neighboring nations never challenged it. Korea in north was a vassal kingdom. Vietnam in south was like a vassal kingdom too. But things got messy with Vietnam. Unlike Korea, a peninsula nation, Vietnam was adjoined to Laos and Cambodia. Vietnam encroached on Cambodia, and Cambodians asked Chinese for help, and Chinese urged Vietnamese to behave, and Vietnamese said, ‘yes master’, but then took more of Cambodia, and then China intervened and Viets fought back, and etc. Maybe things would have been less troublesome if Vietnam was a peninsula like Korea.

    China’s only real problem was with Mongols and barbarians of the north who, like nomadic Arabs, took advantage of weakness during times of crisis.

    As for Japan, it minded its own business usually. Its two great forays into continental Asia was triggered by Western influence. Hideoyoshi was armed by Europeans who supported his attempted invasion as a means to spread Christianity and western influence. Western firearms gave Japan a great advantage in the war.
    And in the 20th century, Japan imitated the great imperialist powers and believed it can’t be a great power without an empire.

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  193. @Jack Chick's Dick
    anon:

    The British used them because of an unusual characteristic: unlike white people who are not psychopaths, the Nepalese never get tired of killing other people.
     
    You really don't know any Russians, do you?

    twinkie:

    Gurkhas are generally well-disciplined and courageous, and perform their duties very well. And they don’t break easily. In other words, they may not make great chiefs, but they make great Indians.
     
    I thought they were Nepalese, not Indians. (And please don't say Nepalian.)

    And don't Tibetans have super-powers such as levitation?

    I thought they were Nepalese, not Indians.

    They ARE Nepalese.

    You don’t get the chief/Indians thing?

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  194. @Anon
    "Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all."

    More like Asian Germans(before Germans completely lost it). Combination of order and the irrational.

    "Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines."

    Your formulation is problematic because you list Chinese, Taiwanese, and Singaporeans separately. They are one people. Sure, they differ, like Anglos differ across UK and among US, UK, Australia, and etc.

    Also, keep in mind that most smaller East Asian nations have powerful Chinese minorities who are economically dominant. The ONLY exceptions are Japan and Korea, maybe because of same IQ and Confucian cultural influence. Vietnam is an odd case. It's somewhere between Japan/Korea and other Southeast Asian nations. Racially, Core Viets are like extension of Southern Chinese. For one thing, Chinese(especially Cantonese) and Vietnamese belong in same language family. In contrast, Japan-Korea-Mongolia belong to another language family.
    Viets are more capable than other SE Asians, but Chinese were once economically dominant, especially as middlemen under the French(and in South Vietnam as middlemen for the US).
    The Boat People tragedy kicked a lot of Chinese out of Vietnam, but I hear there is a considerable Chinese presence in Vietnam still.

    "Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage."

    Liable to fall apart? But they remained together for a long time. I think their last dynasty survived for 600 yrs, which is a lot longer than Tokugawa.
    All the internecine fighting in the 20th century was, to a large measure, the result of foreign intervention. Japanese rule divided the nation between collaborators and resisters. And then US and USSR divided the nation. As North Korea was totalitarian, it created a unified state. South Korea was autocratic but free enough to allow every side to make themselves heard. Much of the problem is due to crisis of legitimacy. The left lost moral legitimacy cuz of discredited communism. The right was tainted with collaboration with Japan and then with US that backed dictatorship. Globalism also divided Korea.
    And say goodbye to Anglo tutelage, which was pretty good(for many nations). US is now Judeo-Homo, and its influence is messing up entire nations. Also, US is now pushing diversity on every nation. It didn't in the past. This poison makes US influence deadly.

    "Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side."

    Come on! Italians have lots of problems, but they are still a great people. Filipinos are among the silliest people in the world. I mean, have you dealt with the Filos? Their entire culture consists of third rate imitation of worst of US pop culture. In the late 7os, there were bunch of Filipino kids in our school, and they were just the goofiest, shallowest, crassest dufuses I've ever seen. Give Italians credit for art, creativity, design, taste, style, etc.
    Filos have NONE of that. Their women are a bunch of whores, and the guys are like Asian Mexicans. When I moved to the suburbs with lots of Jews, there were a few Filo kids, and Jews called them 'Oriental Spicks'. Howard Stern has a chapter on Filipinos in his book PRIVATE PARTS. Unfair but not entirely inaccurate.
    One advantage they have over other immigrants is English proficiency. The kids who freshly arrived could speak English though with accent. This makes Filipinos useful workers in many fields. They have a basic grasp of English.

    "Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food."

    I don't know much about Thailand, but when I think of Thai, I think of Thigh. Isn't the nation like one big Saigon during the War? It's a nation where prostitution is like the national economy. And they got silly stuff, like transvestite volley ball team. A silly people.

    "Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists."

    Not really. Arabs are mixed, and Near East is varied in ethnicity and demographics, but it's nothing like in India. Also, Islam had a leveling effect among many people.
    In contrast, India was defined by Hinduism and race-caste system. Over time, peoples did mix along caste lines, but the historical effects are still felt. I would say India is most like South America with its defacto caste system which is really poisonous.
    It's impossible to talk of Indians as if they're one people. Some are as low as Africans. Some are 'Aryan'. Personally, I think India is a horrible formula for a civilization. Great spiritual ideas and artistic traditions came out of India, but it's a mess.

    "Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don’t litter – or you will pay a fine!"

    Angloized Chinese.

    You left out Hong Kongese.

    You left out Hong Kongese.

    St. Petersburg? Oh, wait. That’s Shanghai.

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  195. @Reg Cæsar

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss
     
    One yuuuuge difference, though:

    Singapore has one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. According to the Arms Offences Act, unlawful possession or carrying of firearms is punishable with imprisonment and caning. Using or attempting to use arms when committing a scheduled offense is punishable with death.

    https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/singapore.php

    One yuuuuge difference

    You mean aside from appearance, gene pool, language, culture, etc.?

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  196. @res
    That was both funny and informative. Thanks.

    This struck me given your experience being able to find common ground with your WV neighbors (I'm reading Albion's Seed right now so attuned to this sort of observation).

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.
     
    Is the overall implied commentary on Japanese/Chinese/Korean relations intentional? (i.e. Europe at war, Asia at war)

    That was both funny and informative. Thanks.

    Thanks for taking it well. I get the feeling some people took it seriously.

    This struck me given your experience being able to find common ground with your WV neighbors

    Or it’s just me. As my wife puts it, “Beneath all that polished exterior lies the soul of a hillbilly.”

    Albion’s Seed

    Koreans are the Irishmen of ASIA. That is, they are sort of like Scots-Irish in relation to other Asians. They aren’t, you know, actual Appalachian Scotch-Irish. For one thing, theirs is a highly urban culture – Koreans are generally not hillbillies (unless we are talking about those Koreans from the very mountainous province in the east).

    My suspicion is, to the extent that the Koreans are similar to the Irish, much of it has to do with historical circumstances. Modern Irish sentimentality seems to have been formed by the experience of English colonialism, suffering, resistance, independence, and latter-day economic success (with occasional bumps and bruises)… much the way modern Koreans derive their sensibility from Japanese occupation, war, and their more recent economic “miracle.” Both peoples seem to have soulful folk music befitting of those who have lived under the gun of a stronger power nearby (or, in the case of Koreans, “a shrimp caught between two whales”).

    Well, that, and they are some of the hardest drinking people in the world.

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  197. @Eagle Eye
    Both Nepalese and Bhutanese are of Tibetan stock and speak Sino-Tibetan languages.

    Bhutan unlike Nepal does not currently seem to be infected with competing cults of 1970s communism (Maoists vs. Leninists). Aggressive political and business practices is probably why Bhutan decided the Nepalese had to go.

    Like all self-regarding ethnic minorities, the Bhutan Nepalese would never consider returning to their fair ancestral land and instead opted to join the welfare class in Rochester, New York, courtesy of Community Organizer Barry.

    Count on a rising generation of Bhutan-Nepalese SJW infesting America's third-rate colleges and teacher training schools (but I repeat myself).

    Meanwhile, the Bhutanese no doubt congratulate themselves each time they read about the meowings of Kat Chow and her co-ethnics in far-away America. Bhutan had a narrow escape this time.

    Nepali language is Aryan/Sanskrit—were the Bhutanese Nepalis Sino-Tibetan? I know Newari (language of Nepal) is Sino-Tibetan.

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    Nepali language is Aryan/Sanskrit
     
    Oops - you are quite correct - misconstrued a brief reference.

    The official Nepalese language (aka Nepali) itself belongs to the Aryan/Sanskrit group albeit with significant Sino-Tibetan influence.

    Many other languages spoken in Nepal are fully Sino-Tibetan, including the famous Sherpa language.

    Genetically, Nepalese are of mostly Tibetan stock with some admixture of Indians from the South and among the elite who are presumably Southern invaders.

    In fact, East Asian phenotypes are prominent throughout a wider area including Nepal, Bhutan, Sikkim and even Northern Bangladesh.
  198. @Steve Sailer
    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.

    Steve, I have been told that I suffer criticism poorly, so I will mull this over before I comment on Filipinos as the New Italians. Hmmmm.

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  199. @Johan Meyer
    Nepali language is Aryan/Sanskrit---were the Bhutanese Nepalis Sino-Tibetan? I know Newari (language of Nepal) is Sino-Tibetan.

    Nepali language is Aryan/Sanskrit

    Oops – you are quite correct – misconstrued a brief reference.

    The official Nepalese language (aka Nepali) itself belongs to the Aryan/Sanskrit group albeit with significant Sino-Tibetan influence.

    Many other languages spoken in Nepal are fully Sino-Tibetan, including the famous Sherpa language.

    Genetically, Nepalese are of mostly Tibetan stock with some admixture of Indians from the South and among the elite who are presumably Southern invaders.

    In fact, East Asian phenotypes are prominent throughout a wider area including Nepal, Bhutan, Sikkim and even Northern Bangladesh.

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  200. @matt
    According to the American Community Survey, the poverty rate for Chinese-Americans was 15.4% in 2015, higher than the white non-Hispanic poverty rate of 10.4%. Presumably, Koreans also count as "fancy Asians", but 13.4% of Korean-Americans had incomes below the poverty line, also higher than the white rate.

    (Click here; go to "Advanced Search", click "race/ancestry"; search for "Chinese Alone", "Korean Alone", and "All available non-Hispanic Origin by Race"; click on "topics" and search for "poverty"; then click on the first item labeled "SELECTED POPULATION PROFILE IN THE UNITED STATES" for the year 2015; ctrl+f search for "poverty"; look at the row labeled "All people".)

    I wonder how much of the Chinese and Korean poverty rate is due to off-the-books income from their businesses, making them eligible to milk the system through earned income tax credits, food stamps etc.

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    There is some fraud, to be sure, but the main explanatory variable is probably selectivity.
    , @matt
    Are Chinese- and Korean-Americans underreporting their income in the American Community Survey? Could be. I have no idea. If they are, is it enough to make up for the huge 7-9 percentage point gap between the poverty rates of supposedly "fancy Asian" Koreans and Chinese and supposedly "jungle Asian" Filipinos? Does it explain why even Japanese-Americans have a higher poverty rate than Filipinos? I doubt it. But someone should look into it.
  201. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “Some Chinese are really into hot dogs.”

    And God permits this?

    Is life worth living?

    This is Heart of Darkness level stuff.

    Exterminate all the brutes.

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  202. @Escher
    I wonder how much of the Chinese and Korean poverty rate is due to off-the-books income from their businesses, making them eligible to milk the system through earned income tax credits, food stamps etc.

    There is some fraud, to be sure, but the main explanatory variable is probably selectivity.

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    Korean-Americans, at least, are pretty positively selected. There might be some positive selection for Filipinos, but is it more than for Koreans and Chinese, or even Japanese?
  203. @Escher
    I wonder how much of the Chinese and Korean poverty rate is due to off-the-books income from their businesses, making them eligible to milk the system through earned income tax credits, food stamps etc.

    Are Chinese- and Korean-Americans underreporting their income in the American Community Survey? Could be. I have no idea. If they are, is it enough to make up for the huge 7-9 percentage point gap between the poverty rates of supposedly “fancy Asian” Koreans and Chinese and supposedly “jungle Asian” Filipinos? Does it explain why even Japanese-Americans have a higher poverty rate than Filipinos? I doubt it. But someone should look into it.

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  204. @Twinkie
    There is some fraud, to be sure, but the main explanatory variable is probably selectivity.

    Korean-Americans, at least, are pretty positively selected. There might be some positive selection for Filipinos, but is it more than for Koreans and Chinese, or even Japanese?

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  205. @Twinkie

    I do learn stuff here, but I’m gonna stick with “Oriental” and hope it catches back on. It’s the best term, really, for anyone with the features seen in people from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. (Indonesia and Malaysia would be questionable on this.)
     
    So Oriental rugs are made in East Asia, instead of Iran?

    I imagine most Oriental rugs are made in China*, which is indeed in the eastern portion of the continent of Asia, if that’s what you’re trying to say.

    * It’d be good to check the tag, and also the packaging and make sure it doesn’t have a Shenzhen From-Address. They may be making these rugs out on the sidewalk, at the same spot where they burned my 5 seasons of “The Office” for 15 RMB for me – about 2 Schrute bucks. It’s the same spot where they manufacture all those knock-off Coach handbags. I don’t understand why women want to have this crap, whether genuine or knock-off

    Now, about the Schrute-bucks, this is NOT from China (the guy videoing off his damn TV set), but still funny:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv_EwU8-3Gs

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  206. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Twinkie

    You never hear about Filipinos, but they look like they are turning into that long hoped-for immigrant group: the New Italians.
     
    Here's my list of Asians and their Western equivalents:

    Japanese = Asian Englishmen. They are the second biggest customers of Savile Row in England. That says it all.

    Chinese = Asian Continentals, an amalgamation of Russians, French, and Germans. They are basically Asian Roman-Byzantines.

    Koreans = The (Ulster) Irishmen of Asia. They drink, they fight, they hate each other, and everyone else. They are liable to fall apart on their own, but do great things under Anglo tutelage.

    Taiwanese = If the Chinese are Asian Russians, the Taiwanese are Asian Serbo-Croats. They do well economically, but have the highest murder rate in East Asia.

    Filipinos = Asian Italians. Catholics who keep their heads down and do trade/service labor with good cheer. A little on the slow side.

    Indochinese (Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians) = Asian Balkans, I suppose. But really Asian Salvadorans. Some of them work hard, others join violent gangs. Still others (if from the mountains) hunt people in the woods.

    Thai = Asian Mexicans. Hard working, moderate IQ folks with spicy food.

    Indians = Asian equivalents of Middle Easterners in Europe. A small subset is made up of very high IQ folks of ancient tradition, but the rest are liable to be low IQ gang-rapists.

    Indonesians/Malaysians = Asian North Africans. Most are mellow, but the religious ones are scary.

    Singaporeans = Asian Swiss. Clean, corruption-free, and oh-so-superior to everyone else around them. Don't litter - or you will pay a fine!

    No one ever mentions Ceylon* ….

    I’m going to go cry in a corner now.

    *I was going to phrase this as a reference to “No-one expects the Spanish inquisition”: but in fact the Inquisition (as an extension of the Goanese Inquisition) was briefly active in Portuguese Ceylon, during which time people presumably did expect it.

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  207. @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.

    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.

    There’s no question they eat cats (and dogs). But the Chinese may not consider these inferior meats. A quick search showed that, in the past several years, dog meat was available at a low price of 26 yuan per kg compared 18 yuan a kg for pork. Now, this is in China, where selling canine and feline meat is not against the law, and acquiring the meat is merely a matter of going to the local butcher. Stateside, the cost of buying these meats for personal consumption is likely to be prohibitive, because of the legal issues involved. Its rarity, combined with its premium status among the Chinese, suggests that you are unlikely to be served dog meat at the local takeout – if the proprietors have access to it, they are likely to have cooked and eaten it at home:

    People in China have been eating dog meat for a long time, even though it’s a relatively expensive affair. During the Spring and Autumn Period (770-476 BC), King Goujian of the Yue Kingdom, before going to war against the Wu Kingdom, awarded dogs to women who gave birth to boys and pigs to those who gave birth to girls. Dog meat cost more than pork even then.

    According to Records of the Grand Historian, Fan Kuai, a senior military general who helped found the Western Han Dynasty (206 BC-AD 24), made a living as a dog butcher when he was young.

    Many consider dog meat not only a delicacy, but also to have medicinal properties. Bencao Gangmu (or Compendium of Materia Medica), the seminal work of medical and pharmaceutical expert Li Shizhen of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), describes dog meat as warm, yang-nourishing and especially beneficial for the kidneys and stomach.

    Eating dog meat is a socially acceptable practice in parts of southern China. Believed to have medicinal qualities, dog meat is consumed as a energizer food, providing warmth in the winter months, as well as helping cure fatigue, low back pain, poor memory and slow digestion in older men. (Interestingly, and paradoxically, dog meat is eaten in South Korea during the summer months to cool the body down.) Dog skin and gallstones are used to strengthen the body or heal sickness, dog penis and testes are used for impotence and lowered sex drive, and dog kidney is consumed to cure impotence and premature ejaculation. The bones of dogs are sometimes used as an alternative to tiger bone to treat rheumatism. Although dog meat is not seen at dinner tables as much as pork, beef or other kinds of white meat, some parts of China still favor the canine dish – especially in the northeast along the border with Korea and in the southern provinces of Guizhou and Guangdong. Traditionally confined primarily to southern China and a few spots in the eastern coastal province of Jiangsu, the practice of eating dog began to spread throughout China in the late 1980s as the country became more affluent. Many people view less superior breeds of dogs as edible “meat dogs,” even while having pet dogs themselves.

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    Johann, thank you for the informative reply . I will read to my cat, he doesn't like dogs.
  208. @Ivy
    Cats were sold as rabbits in WWII markets in Europe, for example, when food was scarce. The skeletons are similar, so discerning buyers insisted that the heads be left on. When people are hungry, palates become more flexible. Squirrel and possum don't seem appetizing to the average person, but the choice of that or no protein could quiet an empty stomach for a while. Cat isn't much of a stretch in such cases, and no, I'm not recommending eating pets, just probing the end points.

    Medieval and right up to modern times European consumer protection laws mandated that rabbit and poultry had to be sold whole and with the heads still on.

    That way the buyer knew it was a rabbit instead of a cat and if it was a duck, goose etc
    The condition of the head was also a good indication of how long ago it was slaughtered.

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    The people who described the cat/rabbit situation had that experience during WWII when the regs were somewhat flexible depending on what was available and how much money one had. A gray market in food.
  209. @Alden
    Medieval and right up to modern times European consumer protection laws mandated that rabbit and poultry had to be sold whole and with the heads still on.

    That way the buyer knew it was a rabbit instead of a cat and if it was a duck, goose etc
    The condition of the head was also a good indication of how long ago it was slaughtered.

    The people who described the cat/rabbit situation had that experience during WWII when the regs were somewhat flexible depending on what was available and how much money one had. A gray market in food.

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  210. @Johann Ricke

    Jack, yes chickens are cheep, and plentiful, but Asians serving cats as dinner is an Urban legend.
     
    There's no question they eat cats (and dogs). But the Chinese may not consider these inferior meats. A quick search showed that, in the past several years, dog meat was available at a low price of 26 yuan per kg compared 18 yuan a kg for pork. Now, this is in China, where selling canine and feline meat is not against the law, and acquiring the meat is merely a matter of going to the local butcher. Stateside, the cost of buying these meats for personal consumption is likely to be prohibitive, because of the legal issues involved. Its rarity, combined with its premium status among the Chinese, suggests that you are unlikely to be served dog meat at the local takeout - if the proprietors have access to it, they are likely to have cooked and eaten it at home:

    People in China have been eating dog meat for a long time, even though it’s a relatively expensive affair. During the Spring and Autumn Period (770-476 BC), King Goujian of the Yue Kingdom, before going to war against the Wu Kingdom, awarded dogs to women who gave birth to boys and pigs to those who gave birth to girls. Dog meat cost more than pork even then.

    According to Records of the Grand Historian, Fan Kuai, a senior military general who helped found the Western Han Dynasty (206 BC-AD 24), made a living as a dog butcher when he was young.

    Many consider dog meat not only a delicacy, but also to have medicinal properties. Bencao Gangmu (or Compendium of Materia Medica), the seminal work of medical and pharmaceutical expert Li Shizhen of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), describes dog meat as warm, yang-nourishing and especially beneficial for the kidneys and stomach.

    Eating dog meat is a socially acceptable practice in parts of southern China. Believed to have medicinal qualities, dog meat is consumed as a energizer food, providing warmth in the winter months, as well as helping cure fatigue, low back pain, poor memory and slow digestion in older men. (Interestingly, and paradoxically, dog meat is eaten in South Korea during the summer months to cool the body down.) Dog skin and gallstones are used to strengthen the body or heal sickness, dog penis and testes are used for impotence and lowered sex drive, and dog kidney is consumed to cure impotence and premature ejaculation. The bones of dogs are sometimes used as an alternative to tiger bone to treat rheumatism. Although dog meat is not seen at dinner tables as much as pork, beef or other kinds of white meat, some parts of China still favor the canine dish – especially in the northeast along the border with Korea and in the southern provinces of Guizhou and Guangdong. Traditionally confined primarily to southern China and a few spots in the eastern coastal province of Jiangsu, the practice of eating dog began to spread throughout China in the late 1980s as the country became more affluent. Many people view less superior breeds of dogs as edible “meat dogs,” even while having pet dogs themselves.
     

    Johann, thank you for the informative reply . I will read to my cat, he doesn’t like dogs.

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