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Oddly enough, this vicious 2008 rock-throwing Republican assault on a movie star (Kumar from the Harold & Kumar movies) doesn’t appear to have gotten any media attention whatsoever before Penn’s tweet today.

Here’s a 2008 local newspaper account of Kal Penn’s late August visit to the U. of Florida that leaves out all mention of any stoning of the celebrity, probably due to some sort of Republican conspiracy that controls the media. (I can’t find any news coverage saying he came back in November 2008.)

I’m not a geologist, but does Florida even have a lot of rocks conveniently at hand for throwing at saintly Obama celebrity supporters? Isn’t Florida mostly made out of mud and sand?

 
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  1. Achilles says:

    does Florida even have a lot of rocks

    Yes, rocks of cocaine.

    Perhaps the Republican strategy was that Kal Penn might stoop to pick up the rocks and smoke them, distracting him from his critical task of escorting young voters to polling places.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @dr kill
  2. JLK says:

    Your BS detector seems to be in good functioning condition.

  3. Doug says:

    Remember, Gainesville is as solid blue as Berkeley. Not as large a town, but just as much a bubble. (Central Berkeley is a 22 minute drive from the closest Trump precinct. Downtown Gainesville is a 26 minute drive.)

    When you read Kal Penn’s story, just stand-in a raucous crowd of John McCain stormtroopers intimidating voters in the middle of People’s Park while BPD stands by and does nothing.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  4. He’s lying.

    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @3g4me
    , @Kratoklastes
    , @Forbes
  5. While these specific events may not have technically occurred it started a conversation on white supremacy which is what is important.

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @bomag
  6. … But they use throwable rocks in landscaping where you might otherwise see mulch or pine straw.

  7. songbird says:

    My advice to aspiring movie comedians is to not attempt pot humor, which usually seems to involve the writers partaking. I think the audience has to be high to appreciate it.

  8. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Another anchor baby giving the finger to America instead of saying thanks.

    End the 14th!

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    The official College Republicans on campuses tend to be among the biggest dweebs on campus. These are the guys who wear bowties and go to CPAC. So they would’ve had to have been random Republican students.

    • Agree: Random Smartaleck
  10. Having grown up in Florida, no, you are correct that Florida does not have rocky soil. UF is a very liberal college as well. Kumar’s story is sheer nonsense.

    • Replies: @dr kill
  11. He knew they were Republicans because while they were throwing rocks they were yelling, “Hey, we’re Republicans and we don’t want you to take people to the polls!”

    • LOL: bomag
  12. J.Ross says: • Website

    I would be terrified to throw rocks at an arguable celebrity, because not only are they rich enough to afford a lawyer, not only does their visit probably rate some police and media presense, but they also have their fanbase to be outraged on their behalf. It would be incredibly risky for no payoff.

  13. Kal needs to go visit India and probably stay there. He should take Thomm with him.

    • Agree: Svigor, 3g4me
    • Replies: @Thomm
  14. istevefan says:

    At least he did not wait 36 years to make this charge.

    • LOL: Kylie
  15. Who was in Gainesville in late August, besides the football squad? Tom Petty visiting relatives?

    His name sounds like a dog food. Which is ironic, as so does “Gainesville”.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  16. By the way, why were Republican students campaigning for Barack Obama? That’s even dumber than being in Gainesville (or any other college town) in August!

    Go back and reread his first sentence. That’s what he said. Or “tweeted”.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Autochthon
  17. Anon[124] • Disclaimer says:

    In all seriousness it could simply be a memory glitch, and I recommend reading some of Elizabeth Loftus’s work on the topic.

    Research on this topic, popular in post-McMartin days, has been all but shut down at universities, since it pretty much exonerates Woody Allen, and doesn’t help in fighting Supreme Court nominees either.

  18. Elie Wiesel cleared this kind of thing up for us:

    “Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred.”

    • LOL: Patrick in SC
  19. Mr. Blank says:

    Didn’t happen.

    I live about an hour’s drive from the University of Florida. If anything even remotely like that had happened, it would have dominated the news around here for a week.

    Remember, this was just a year after the “don’t Tase me, bro!” incident at the same campus. There would be ample cellphone video of Republicans throwing rocks at Democrats, if such a thing happened.

    He’s lying.

  20. I went to UF. Pugh Hall? That was all they rented? From the second photo at the Alligator it doesn’t look like he drew the 300 people they claimed. I wonder which visit the rock throwing happened at since Florida held the primary in 2008 in January. BTW Hilary won that one, but…
    The but being the state legislature had moved the primary up just like Michigan and those delegates didn’t count. Kind of like KAL Penn’s influence in getting out the vote.

  21. Lurker says:
    @BigDickNick

    It was true – in his mind.

  22. Tom-in-VA says:

    Probably the same dastardly Serbian sniper that shot at Hillary in Bosnia.

  23. Lot says:

    I think the Blue Wave might have happened with Dems winning every competitive Senate race and 50 House seats if the election were in early September.

    The interrogation of a 53-year-old judge’s high school social and sex life by leading Dem senators, then the migrant caravan, made them look awful just as swing voters started to follow the midterm news.

    I think people noticed the steady Maoist purge of people from their jobs that really picked up this year. And the purged were quite diverse: a beauty queen newslady, a young Google programmer nerd, the Jewish creator and star of the #1 scripted show on TV.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  24. River rock, AKA giant pebbles, used for landscaping. Excellent throwability.

  25. Lot says:

    It’s only the left that violently attacks people engaged in political or intellectual debate in colleges.

    You can find 100 instances of this. But there is not single one of conservatives trying to “shut it down” and “deplatform” leftists.

  26. Was he one of Obama’s boy toys in the White House for a while? I bet he and Reggie Love had some vicious slap fights.

    • LOL: bomag
  27. J.Ross says: • Website

    A Maryland man has died after having been shot by police because somebody SWATted him with Obama’s lasting legacy, a “protective removal order.”

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-aa-shooting-20181105-story.html

    When they tried to crucify Brandon Raub, the fact that he didn’t own any guns did not come out until the trial. Forget evidence. Don’t worry about the Constitution. Finalize relations with your Ex. Pick up the phone and say, “I’m scared …”

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @bomag
  28. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    Stoned? Or boned?

    http://hillbuzz.org/kal-penn-is-to-barack-obama-what-marilyn-monroe-was-to-john-f-kennedy-11025

    In the 80s, people would still almost whisper when they talked about JFK and Marilyn but in the years since then it’s been more or less established that, yes, President Kennedy used to sleep around on Jackie and indeed had a romantic relationship with the actress (along with many other people). The tapes that Princess Caroline of Kennedy released to the public (against her mother’s wishes) feature Jackie at one pointing talking about hating Marilyn and complaining about her calling all the time and taunting her — which is something I have no trouble picturing Marilyn doing (like how Kathleen Turner in Serial Mom would prank call her neighbors and use vile language to raise their blood pressure).

    Some day, twenty years or so form now, you’re going to just accept as similar fact that actor Kal Penn and President Obama had a romantic relationship that began on the 2008 campaign trail and continued when Obama asked Penn to move to Washington so they could be close to one another and the two could have sex more frequently.

    Future biographies of President Obama must contain entire chapters devoted to how Penn’s presence in the White House affected and strained Obama’s relationship with longtime “body man” Reggie Love, who friends and acquaintances since his days playing basketball at Duke described as gay. Penn essentially outed himself as gay last night at the Democrat Convention in Charlotte when he talked about Obama “allowing us all to gay marry”, including himself in the “us all” who can now “gay marry”. Not many straight guys are excited about being able to “gay marry” because of Obama…or in Penn’s case, possibly wanting to “gay marry” Obama in the future.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  29. J.Ross says: • Website

    CNN literally using a woman’s medical emergency as a weapon to make Trump look bad

    • Replies: @Olorin
  30. Harold says:

    I saw a Harold and Kumar film, it was mostly anti-white bigotry.

  31. It’s quite possible in the fall at an SEC school that these “rocks” thrown at Ganga Din were large, brown, and oval-shaped with white laces.

  32. bomag says:
    @BigDickNick

    It’s the seriousness of the allegation that counts.

    And Chuck Schumer believes him.

  33. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Not to take your comment seriously, but I doubt Penn’s parents were illegals. Don’t be fooled by the weed jokes, the guy’s more like a former Valley Prep lax player who also worked weekends tutoring at Kaplan to save up for spinning tire rims

    • Replies: @Federalist
    , @anon
    , @anon
  34. J.Ross says: • Website

    Feds advice police departments of possible mid-term violence, which is an improvement over Obama saying that the New Black Panthers don’t exist.

    https://postimg.cc/k60M7Pj3

  35. @JLK

    Sigh. Another model minority embraces Leftist “BAMN” tactics. Play the “pity party/we shall overcome card”, and stand back to bask in the adulation & oozing sympathy from ‘Good Whites’.
    The political framework we’ve been playing under for decades can be characterized simply as:
    Middle class & Working class Whites = Guilt Catchers;
    Minorities & Managerial Elite = Guilt Throwers & Connivers

  36. Thomm says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I’m not of that ethnicity, and nothing about my comments indicates that I am.

    But what is funny that an entire slum of Indians has taken up residence in your head. That means they are shitting inside your head. Ironically, even this increases your intelligence since it is starting from a state of zero.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  37. Why were the Republicans volunteering for Obama?

    • Replies: @bomag
  38. @Reg Cæsar

    By the way, why were Republican students campaigning for Barack Obama? That’s even dumber than being in Gainesville (or any other college town) in August!

    Go back and reread his first sentence. That’s what he said. Or “tweeted”.

    I know.

  39. He’s either lying, stoned, or hallucinating.

    UofF used to be a huge party school back in the day. However, in recent years, the place has developed a reputation for solid academics, so it’s now a “Public Ivy.” A lot of the “bro” crowd has been pushed out and replaced by super scholastic types and engineering nerds. UofF has gone from “Animal House” to being the “Harvard of Florida.” The odds of the current students stoning anybody are damn near zero.

    There are still lots of off-campus partiers that drive in to watch the games or enjoy the nightlife, but they don’t care about politics. As long as you don’t “diss” their team, they don’t care.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  40. El Dato says:

    That’s a biblical trek to the polling station and the valley where darkness rocks.
    Sheperding the young to the box of the covenant.
    Moses would be proud!
    After 10 years of wilderness we are back at the polling station.
    The world turns.
    The Twitter speaketh.

    Meanwhile in Germany, which is no longer Germany but Meltingpotmany:

    German Jews demand extra integration classes for Muslim migrants to avoid anti-Semitism attacks

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    , @bomag
  41. JimB says:

    Kal Penn’s departure for a bogus job in the Obama White House (as strange as that sounds) forced the writers for House MD to kill off his character, Lawrence Kutner. That episode, where House yells at Kutner’s adopted parents for being white, is the precise moment when the show jumped the shark.

  42. J.Ross says: • Website

    Amazing! Russian hackers describe interfering in American discourse like a branch of government! You cannot discuss Russia on social media without their aggressive programs finding you and preparing a response or containing you! Why invade, Putin already has KGB set up and working daily against your freedom of expression! They boast freely because they fear nothing!

    “we use all sorts of technology”
    “we use corporate level, enterprise-grade social media intelligence software”
    “we have custom algorithms and that acquire this stuff immediately”
    “generally within 30 seconds or less of one of these things (critical of glorious motherland) popping up on campus whether it’s a Facebook event, a mention on Twitter, the system picks it up, it goes into a queue, and alerts our researchers and they evaluate it & tag it.”
    “and if it rises to a certain level, we issue EARLY-WARNING Alerts to our partners”

  43. @Reg Cæsar

    It sounds a bit like a 2nd tier college.
    From the Chief of Security at Kal Penn U: DeMarcus Johnson was arrested today for the break in at the computer lab in the computer science building. $3000 worth of computers believed to be taken in the robbery were seized in Mr. Johnson’s room. Mr. Johnson played cornerback on Kal Penn’s football team.
    Coach Roger Dimsdale said,”He’s a good kid. Really. A credit to Kal Penn…”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Reg Cæsar
  44. eah says:

    “American kids” — like him I guess

    • Replies: @eah
  45. eah says:
    @eah

  46. eah says:

    So what you’re trying to say here, in your own ‘wryly detached’ way, is that this guy (no idea who he is) is a lying piece of shit, right?

  47. @Reg Cæsar

    This kind of illiteracy has become accepted norm worldwide. It’s sad. Watch old films or even interviews or home movies of people speaking very casually in relaxed settings. They all have a large vocabulary and an ability to form sentences grammatically correct, clear, concise, and often very clever.

    Benny Goodman, Orson Welles, Alfred Hitchcock, Robert Mitchum, and Cary Grant are great examples of the quality among celebrities. Nowadays we have this Hindoo idiot, Miley Cyrus, a million insufferably stupid rappers, and so on.

    You get more of what you subsidise and celebrate.

  48. The use of the term “stoning” as a perjorative is anti-semetic. YHWH commanded the the Jews to punish violators of His Law with stoning. To refer to stoning as an evil act only performed in an oppressive theocracy is biased.

    • LOL: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Brutusale
  49. Garden stones, mostly pebbles. Maybe someone kicked sand in his face, but he was too baked to distinguish it from actual stones.

  50. @El Dato

    Arabs are Semites, and I hazard the overwhelming majority of these Mohammadams are Arabic; so it would be a peculiar case of massive self-loathing if they were “anti-Semites.”

    It is of course classically Jewish megalomania they always try to claim being Semitic unto themselves; you’d never encounter that kind of arrogant stupidity from, say, Norwegians about being Scandinavian or Dutch about being Germanic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @L Woods
    , @Anon
  51. Olorin says:
    @J.Ross

    That’s a classic piece of projection.

    There was nothing “very awkward” about this. Trump has done this before in rallies–hitting the pause button on the stumping, and joking, and laughing, and cheering…while someone in attendance receives attention for a medical issue.

    The only “very awkward” in the room would be among the MSM clods who think that every moment has to be filled with shrill nattering posing as human communication. Even a minute or three of respectful, patient silence freaks them out.

    • Agree: slumber_j
  52. doylej says: • Website

    oh i thought you said “sean” penn…

  53. @Anonymous

    Plausible.

    There’s evidence that Obama is bisexual. Given that a ridiculously high percentage of entertainers are gay, Kal Penn could be a homosexual. So the two might’ve had some sort of relationship.

    We do know that Obama had several very “close” Paki friends back in college, so maybe Obama likes South Asian men.

  54. @Anonymous

    Legal or illegal, they all have to go back.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  55. @Autochthon

    I think sometime in the 1960s-1970s authenticity and emotion came to be prized much more highly than the ability to articulate one’s thoughts with precision.

    I think it’s also the case that most men who found themselves in public life probably had a rigid course of study of English grammar from a young age, perhaps some rhetoric and public speaking classes a bit later, and some Latin language requirement. When did kids stop diagramming sentences? You’ll probably find a marked decrease in extemporaneous articulateness in public speech and writing about the time that these kids came of age.

  56. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe he means those big 300 pound blocks of old coral that line some walkways down there, poor thing.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  57. @Thomm

    There’s my guy! I knew I could get you to pop in and say hello! Say hi to the other 20 people you’re sleeping on the floor with for me.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  58. tyrone says:

    They didn’t get a strike! young Republicans you must do better ,practice ,practice ,practice build up that throwing arm!

  59. Brutusale says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    But it’s fun for the whole family!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  60. Svigor says:

    There is zero chance that White Republicans threw rocks at this mope.

    Cubans, maybe, but I doubt it.

    South Asians have a breathtaking capacity for lying.

  61. Svigor says:
    @Lot

    I think the Blue Wave might have happened with Dems winning every competitive Senate race and 50 House seats if the election were in early September.

    Implying pollsters don’t crank up the D support to manipulate the electorate, then crank them back down to reality as the election approaches, to maintain their credibility.

    Quaint, but naive.

    • Replies: @Big Cheef
  62. @Autochthon

    One of the many, many things I can’t stand about the worthless Millennial generation is the fact that their song lyrics, in addition to being grammatically incorrect, neither rhyme nor scan correctly, either. It’s as if they’ve thrown every sort of artistic standard straight out the window. But unlike the deliberate nonsense of Dada (which was cynically adopted by destroyers in a position to know and to do better), the Millennial music evinces a literal inability to even perceive an artistic standard, let alone rise up to it. There is something diseased and abortive about these productions, like a runt kitten that one can only heavy-heartedly drown.

    To me this indicates something far deeper than merely a lack of proper English instruction. The schizoid shifting through verb tenses, the mixing up of pronouns, the up-talking (i.e. using an interrogative tone of voice for a declarative sentence), and so forth, are not simple solecisms but a kaleidoscopic multiplexing of identities. These speakers do not maintain a single persona throughout their act of speaking. They begin a sentence as if they were the one communicating the idea, and then end the same sentence as if they were trying to finish their interlocutor’s response to them. They oscillate between being the subject and object of their own thoughts. Being unable to orient themselves properly in the emotional and psychological phase-space of the conversation, their identity splinters into a dreamlike confusion. It’s really quite infuriating to listen to.

    For a good example of the grammatical ineptitude and emotional fluidity characteristic of Millennials, as well as their general whinyness, unmanliness, and cluelessness, listen to the song Perfect, by Simple Plan, and remember that this pile of festering rubbish has over 95 million hits on Youtube.

  63. I’m not a geologist, but does Florida even have a lot of rocks conveniently at hand for throwing at saintly Obama celebrity supporters? Isn’t Florida mostly made out of mud and sand?

    That really is a good observation. Steve turns back around toward Kumar and tweets “.. and another thing, what were these, some limestone or somethin’, hey, just for my notes. The station always wants me to get these little silly details. Those Republicans were probably throwing those limestone rocks, right? Granite, or lava, maybe? Were they speckled? OK, yeah, like I said, they just want me to write down all this stuff for the record, pay no mind …” iColumbo

    Yeah, Florida is nothing but a big flat sandbar, South of maybe around that Gainsville area. I got a company car stuck in the sand on a surveying job one time, and I was 3 or more miles inland, maybe up at 2 or 3 feet above sea level!

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    , @Reg Cæsar
  64. @Brutusale

    You were 1/2 hour ahead of me, Brutusale, but I didn’t reload the page till just now, so more like 30 seconds. Somebody sure had to do it.

    That said, if we’re going to discuss the Alligator Allegations, I am shocked that nobody has posted this Molly Hatchett song yet. This is THE BEST in Southern Rock. Don’t turn it off until you at least get into that 3 minute guitar jam ending.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  65. Big Cheef says:
    @Svigor

    Most of them have the dems surging here at the end.

  66. bomag says:
    @J.Ross

    somebody SWATted him with Obama’s lasting legacy,

    Whoa, we’re needing another moniker: Blow ‘Em Away Betsy.

  67. bomag says:
    @ben tillman

    Because he was the Hope™ they’d been waiting for.

  68. @JohnnyWalker123

    He’s either lying, stoned, or …

    How about he was NOT lying, because he WAS stoned.

  69. bomag says:
    @El Dato

    [Some guy with a title] believes that the “problem of immigrant Arab-Islamic anti-Semitism” still lies ahead.

    Sigh. They came in peace, looking for a better life and to grow the GDP.

    How quickly they’ve changed!

  70. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    Arabs are Semites

    There is no such thing as a “Semite.” There is such a thing as Semitic languages, which include Maltese, Arabic, and the highland Ethiopian languages, but these do not indicate an ethnic or cultural group.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  71. @Doug

    Remember, Gainesville is as solid blue as Berkeley.

    First post here from me on this one that’s more serious, so here ya’ go:

    I see this blue pond, blue lake, whatever (depending on how big) effect in every big University town. It probably matters a whole lot that the voting age is 18, as opposed to 21 before Amendment XXVI was ratified in the summer of 1971. For a big school that’s a lot of lefty votes that would not have been there 47 years ago, as students of that age tend to lean that way.

    The biggest cause, though, is that many more of the hard-lefties and weirdos tend to stay around their university towns than the conservatives. The ctrl-left tend to be in majors for which there are not that many jobs outside of government and the universities, including their alma mater. On the other hand, the conservatives, most with better job prospects, may need to move on for work (and later move OUT a ways for the kids’ sake). Even if it’s just a coffee barista job, the lefties may remain in town, voting “blue” forever.

    I had a landlady when I was in college in a pretty left-wing area. She reminded me (nicely) on voting day “could you please vote against those (certain particular) city councilmen? They are just Communists!” Well, I had no problem voting against Commies, even back at that age, but I can’t remember if I thought “I have no idea who they are, so I shouldn’t vote in those races.” or trusted her judgement, or else forgot about that, and just worried about the national/state elections. Either way, I think now that that lady was probably pretty far left in her time. Perhaps she was getting what she deserved, as now that she (and her husband, who seemed a conservative guy) had this big house in a nice area near campus, all of a sudden she didn’t like socialism and big taxes!

    • Replies: @Fred Boynton
  72. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    His parents were immigrants from India who came to work as H1b slaves, which means they were probably on work visa or green card when he was born. Ending the 14th means he would not have been given citizenship at birth. We need to do this urgently with all non-citizens, not just with illegals. At least one parent must be a citizen at the time of birth for the child to be citizen, all developed countries do this except US and Canada. The Left Coast is crawling with people on all kinds of temporary visas from work visas to tourist visas giving birth to anchor babies.

  73. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    His parents were immigrants from India who came to work as H1b slaves, which means they were probably on work visa or green card when he was born. Ending the 14th means he would not have been given citizenship at birth. We need to do this urgently with all non-citizens, not just with illegals. At least one parent must be a citizen at the time of birth for the child to be citizen, all developed countries do this except US and Canada. The Left Coast is crawling with people on all kinds of temporary visas from work visas to tourist visas giving birth to anchor babies. A large % of elementary schools in the west coast are now majority non-white.

  74. rufus says:

    You cant really get hired by a top 50 U where you are masters or above without an often extensive period away. Its intellectual inbreeding from an intellectuals perspective.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  75. @JohnnyWalker123

    A little disappointed. I thought the clip was going to have Serling himself come on-screen himself to talk up Sanka. (“Submitted for your approval, a decaffeinated hot drink that bears as much resemblance to the old Postum as a Stradivarius does to an Appalachian fiddle. This housewife thinks she’s about to sip a pale imitation of coffee, but what she is about to experience is something as unreal in terms of its quality, as it is plentiful in what she can drink in quantity. Tonight, it’s Sanka
    “)

    Featured television folks used to do that during the sign-offs. Netflix even keeps some of the product placement tags at the end of the Dick Van Dyke Show where he and MTM are lauding whatever cigarette brand was sponsoring that season.

  76. Thirdtwin says:

    …and one of those rock-throwers was Rick Scott or somebody. Why isn’t the FBI investigating?

  77. L Woods says:
    @Autochthon

    … says the “American” (sorry, it was just too obvious).

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  78. Alfa158 says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I like Thomm, he’s a real life version of the kind of person Tiny Duck satirically impersonates; it’s nice to have him pop in. He isn’t Indian though; if you look at his posts they have that whole ((( “see here my fellow white people !” ))) theme going.
    I cannot figure if he is even American though. He repeatedly refers to White Nationalists as “wiggers”. Wiggers is a term that describes White people who worship Blacks, wish they could be Black and try to emulate them; the exact opposite of what WN’s are like. He seems to be someone who knows that people over in the United States use wiggers as a derogatory term, but he doesn’t know what it actually means.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    , @Thomm
  79. anon[258] • Disclaimer says:

    As a UF grad, no rocks on campus except at Geology Dept. Or you could bring your own rocks, a strategy long in favor by bad persons. Bad persons rarely study Geo, so yeah, prolly brought their own rocks.

    Didn’t say if on campus or off. There’s old bricks and pieces of busted concrete off campus.

    I dunno.

  80. cf says:

    What a weird thing to lie about. Kal Penn is what the kids call “fake deep.”

  81. tyrone says:
    @Alfa158

    Here’s hoping tiny breaks character on wednesday.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  82. Arguably less insane than most of what we’ve heard from the Democrats these last two years
    – Russia hacked the election!
    – Dreamers are our future!
    – Abolish ICE!

  83. TheOldOne says:

    So if I read this correctly, Republican students were volunteering for the magic negro while simultaneously throwing rocks at some student types.

    Figures; you know how confused those Republicans are.

  84. @Achilles

    Achilles, maybe they bought the rocks on the way to the rally, like buying rocks for the stoning scene in Monty Python’s “The Life of Brian.” Maybe someone will link a video.

  85. @Intelligent Dasein

    One of the many, many things I can’t stand about the worthless Millennial generation is the fact that their song lyrics, in addition to being grammatically incorrect, neither rhyme nor scan correctly, either.

    The much-derided Tin Pan Alley drove these mistakes out through, among other things, cruel mockery of the perpetrators. Arthur Schwartz told the audience at a YMHA songwriter’s talk about he and his lyricist, Howard Dietz, loved to jibe one Benny Davis–

    Lord, please save us
    from Benny Davis

    That he had to remind these old Jews what was wrong with this “rhyme” was bad enough. Today’s kids would just squint and say, “Huh?”

    Folk, country, and blues had lower standards– though some blues lyrics might actually rhyme if the singer no longer had the teeth necessary for the consonants– and this bled into rock and roll and other pop genres.

    Still, false rhymes might be excusable because people don’t talk in rhyme. (Though they don’t talk in assonance, either. Except for Jesse Jackson.) But bad scansion? Who says “someday they will un-DER-stand”, like Dan Fogelberg? (Three times in a row!)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  86. MarcB. says:

    Other than a few small cliff bands in South Florida and some random deposits of limestone bedrock, there isn’t a lot of exposed rock in the state. Most of the available rock would be limited to pebbles used in place of mulch or larger landscaping rocks. A 360 video tour of the University of Florida campus may show remaining evidence of the campus Republicans ammo of choice.

  87. @Father O'Hara

    It sounds a bit like a 2nd tier college.

    A specific one to be exact.

    Police: Toy gun used in California University of Pennsylvania robbery

    Fun riddle: What do Indiana University and California University have in common?

    They’re both in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

    Miami U grad PJ O’Rourke on his Ohio alma mater: “We were a university before Florida was a state!”

  88. There’s a saying that goes, “Indians thrive everywhere except in India.” It makes you wonder about their basic nature. It takes more than Spelling Bee champs to make a country function.

  89. @tyrone

    Duck-Doxing Day,
    or the end of the Tiny Duck Dynasty.

    I am so looking forward to this. I’ll probably even take a sick day to make sure I’ll be on the internet at the right time.

  90. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    But all the things people object to in Jews (nepotism, legalism, materialism, tribalism, conditional morality, haggling, hyper-religiosity, etc) are generally true of other people from that region, where those are all norms. Have you seen Sallah Sabati, which is about “Arabized” Jews coming to Israel?
    In the strictest sense you’re right, but it’s a useful marker for a real thing. It’s like if someone insisted that the Manchu or the Cossacks were not a “real” ethnic group, and then went on to insist that they didn’t exist.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  91. guest says:

    The rocks were shipped in by Karl Rove’s secret James Bondian terrorist organization: History’s Actors. (Now run by Steve Bannon.)

    If only they knew rocks wouldn’t be enough. Shoulda brought dogs and firehoses.

  92. @Achmed E. Newman

    The biggest cause, though, is that many more of the hard-lefties and weirdos tend to stay around their university towns than the conservatives. The ctrl-left tend to be in majors for which there are not that many jobs outside of government and the universities, including their alma mater. On the other hand, the conservatives, most with better job prospects, may need to move on for work (and later move OUT a ways for the kids’ sake). Even if it’s just a coffee barista job, the lefties may remain in town, voting “blue” forever.

    My midwest state U. town back in the 80s had so many leftover boomers from the 60s and 70s who never left that they had to institute a rule that to be eligible for student services (particularly access to student medical and clinic care) you had to be a full-time student (12 credits a semester I think) rather than being registered for a single credit. Boomers would register for a single credit class to leach off the student services. It didn’t help much to clear the deadwood out of town but it put the care for boomers unto the city, county and state rather than the university.

  93. 3g4me says:
    @Patrick in SC

    @4 Patrick in SC: “He’s lying.”

    He’s a magic papers/magic dirt fake American and a pajeet. Same difference.

  94. dr kill says:
    @Achilles

    The coke is really good right now, for Miami.

  95. Dtbb says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Gotta be careful with a linker rod though sometimes.

  96. dr kill says:
    @Admiral Assbar

    He might not know what concrete is.

  97. @Intelligent Dasein

    One of the many, many things I can’t stand about the worthless Millennial generation is the fact that their song lyrics, in addition to being grammatically incorrect, neither rhyme nor scan correctly, either.

    That’s been true of the Hit Parade since Bill Haley and his Comets.

    The much-derided Tin Pan Alley eliminated such mistakes through sheer mockery. Arthur Schwartz explained at the 92nd St. Y how he and his lyricist Howard Dietz rode poor Benny Davis for his slovenly standards:

    Lord, please save us
    From Benny Davis!

    • LOL: vinteuil
  98. @Father O'Hara

    It sounds a bit like a 2nd tier college.

    And a particular one at that:

    • Agree: ben tillman
  99. @J.Ross

    Have you seen Sallah Sabati, which is about “Arabized” Jews coming to Israel?

    That’s who vote for Likud– those who know more about the reality of Araby than anyone else.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  100. Kyle says:

    It’s all a lie. There is no White Castle in Cherry hill. The closest White Castle is 10 minutes out of manhattan. I never got to experience the fabulous mediocrity of White Castle until I moved to Detroit. It’s nothing to write home about.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  101. @Patrick in SC

    He’s lying.

    Dude, you are not woke enough.

    “…certain things are true though they didn’t happen…” – Elie Wiesel All Rivers Run to the Sea, page 275.

    You also need understand the difference between lying and bullshitting: they are two very different things.

    When an honest man speaks, he says only what he believes to be true; and for the liar, it is correspondingly indispensable that he considers his statements to be false. For the bullshitter, however, all these bets are off: he is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose.”

    Harry Frankfurt “On Bullshit“, p17

    Some more gems from Frankfurt

    Since bullshit need not be false, it differs from lies in its misrepresentational intent. The bullshitter may not deceive us, or even intend to do so, either about the facts or about what he takes the facts to be. What he does necessarily attempt to deceive us about is his enterprise.

    and

    …the fact about himself that the liar hides is that he is attempting to lead us away from a correct apprehension of reality; we are not to know that he wants us to believe something he supposes to be false. The fact about himself that the bullshitter hides, on the other hand, is that the truth-values of his statements are of no central interest to him; what we are not to understand is that his intention is neither to report the truth nor co conceal it.

    The guy was bullshitting: he had a narrative objective, and was indifferent about the truth value of the content so long as the objective was furthered.

    Cela explique tout.

    Everybody should read “On Bullshit“: it’s only 20 pages, and it is a fucking masterpiece.

    It’s on a par with Guy Debord’s Society of the Spectacle, and Robert Higgs’ 1995 The Myth of Failed Policies.

    And, of course, Smedley Butler’s 1933 War is a Racket.

    Read those four things and your mind will be better-prepared for policy analysis than 99% of well-trained economists. It’s maybe 100 pages (150 tops) all-up – a few hours at most, for a lifetime’s inoculation against charlatanry.

    To understand just how powerful an analyst you will become: you will understand why the F-35 is not a ‘failure (from the point of view of the actual intended beneficiaries of the policy).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  102. @Federalist

    I’m sure that sort of sentiment was common among the Wampanoag and Pequot.

    How far back are you taking this “They all have to go back” idea?

    • Replies: @Federalist
  103. @Reg Cæsar

    I’ll tie this thread back to Steve’s subject by pointing out that Israel, unlike Florida, is richly endowed with throwable rocks. Many are flint, which is hard and sharp. Lucky thing for Israeli riot policemen, Arabs grow up playing soccer rather than baseball.

  104. Forbes says:
    @Patrick in SC

    Well, he got stoned…just not the way described…

  105. @Intelligent Dasein

    OK Grandad…

    My Dad used to criticise the music I liked (in the 70s and 80s) but shit he listened to as a kid included such profound lyrics as …

    Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
    Walla walla, bang bang
    Ooo eee ooo ah ah ting tang
    Walla walla bang bang

    and

    Bop bopa-a-lu a whop bam boo
    Tutti frutti, oh Rudy
    Tutti frutti, woo
    Tutti frutti, oh Rudy
    Tutti frutti, oh Rudy
    Tutti frutti, oh Rudy
    A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo

    and

    Bom-ba-ba-bom,
    ba-bom-ba-ba-bom,
    ba-ba-bom-ba-ba-bom
    Da-dang-da-da-dang,
    da-dingy-dong-ding

    - those are real lyrics, right?

    The first two songs (“My Friend the Witchdoctor” and “Tutti Frutti“) peaked at #1 and #2 respectively. I can’t find a chart position for the third (the Delltones’ version of “Blue Moon”) but it was very popular in Australia.

    A lot of pop music is always shit. So is a lot of all music.

    Kids today just have more access to it, and get to express their preferences more publicly.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  106. @rufus

    Rufus, I think that was meant for me. I am familiar with what you say, but lots of the jobs are not going to be tenure-track academic positions. Besides adjunct instructors, many may end up in the bureaucracy of the university staff in all sorts of positions. There are way too many of these graduates for them all to be academics themselves. Of the ones that do, they will spread their sickness to other university towns.

  107. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ah, at last. Melodic guitar music.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  108. Everyone must get stoned? Yes?

    But the larger question is what will be needed to get Kal Penn to leave America? My bet is some grand bargain where all the libs emigrate to Sweden, and we get the Swedes that still have functioning brains.

    Isn’t Sweden the desideratum of Libs?

  109. Anonymous[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Simple Plan is a Gen X band, not Millennial. Both Bouvier and Comeau were born in 1979, Stinco in 1978.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  110. Thomm says:
    @Alfa158

    The term ‘wigger’ changed definition in 1994, with the release of the film ‘Pulp Fiction’, for reasons too lengthy for me to repeat.

    The reason that White Trashionalists are ‘Wiggers’ now is because they have an immense amount in common with blacks (even if they hate blacks without realizing their commonalities with them).

    More specifically, blacks and WN wiggers :
    i) Both obsess over race, and see race in everything.
    ii) Both have extremely low IQs.
    iii) Both have left-wing economic beliefs.
    iv) Both are economically unproductive.
    v) Both have a preference for female obesity.

    This is why the Wiggers of today are in fact those who dislike blacks, yet are indistinguishable from them, behavior-wise.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  111. @Anonymous

    True, but GenX doesn’t listen to them. Millennials do.

    And no one here is addressing my point, which is a bit disappointing.

  112. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I highly recommend Sammy Cahn’s rhyming dictionary: he comments on these things a lot in the explanatory notes.

    https://www.amazon.com/Sammy-Cahns-Rhyming-Dictionary-Cahn/dp/1575606224

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  113. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simply Simon

    Ah, at last. Melodic guitar music.

    err……try this

    The companion book:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ybogzrfyd50db1/TheBestOfJohnFahey_TAB.pdf?dl=0

    http://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2010/02/best-of-john-fahey-guitar-tab.html

    The companion book to the album is absolutely out of print and will not, say again (I’ve asked) will not be reprinted, which is why Guitar Player looks the other way at people posting the scans.

    Fahey, in this book and his later, and still in print, books shows that he is quite racially conscious, if one reads between the lines a little. One can admire aspects of black music without considering blacks to be the same as whites.

    Pete Townshend was a huge fan. Chris Stein took lessons from him (and Lester Flatt as well). His musical ideas show up in a lot of unlikely places, from avant garde film music to Frank Zappa, Zoogs Rift, Capt. Beefheart and the Numbers Band (the one with Terry Hynde on sax).

    Now that the Russian classical guitar tradition is being revived, a number of Russian classical guitarists are commenting that Fahey had apparently reinvented many of the concepts of the Russian guitar literature of the nineteenth century. The Russian guitar literature virtually vanished after the 1926 visit of Segovia to the Soviet Union. The is no evidence that Fahey had been exposed to it. Fahey was one of the few guitarists working in open tunings outside the Hawaiian slack key tradition before the md-1960s.

  114. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes

    To understand just how powerful an analyst you will become: you will understand why the F-35 is not a ‘failure‘ (from the point of view of the actual intended beneficiaries of the policy).

    It’s a smash success at transferring cash out of the pockets of the taxpayer and into those of the “defense industry”. That’s pretty obvious.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  115. dvorak says:

    10 years ago today, while volunteering for my then-boyfriend @BarackObama …

  116. @Intelligent Dasein

    One of the many, many things I can’t stand about the worthless Millennial generation is the fact that their song lyrics, in addition to being grammatically incorrect, neither rhyme nor scan correctly, either.

    The “worthless” “Millennial generation” did not generate itself. Its alleged worthlessness, if such exist, is due to someone else.

  117. @L Woods

    I don’t get it. Do I deny other Americans are Americans? Or is the jest that Americans are self-centered the ways Jews are? Something else?

  118. I suppose he was upset because back home in Hinpooh land they’d have thrown cow dung..

  119. @Anonymous

    Would it surprise you that I already have it? And a bunch of others.

    Jane Shaw Whitfield’s is the best, though. Cahn’s advice in his long intro is the reason to get his book.

  120. @Achmed E. Newman

    Florida has the lowest high point of any state. Delaware has the lowest mean elevation. Take your pick as to which state is the flattest.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  121. @Kyle

    It’s all a lie. There is no White Castle in Cherry hill. The closest White Castle is 10 minutes out of manhattan. I never got to experience the fabulous mediocrity of White Castle until I moved to Detroit. It’s nothing to write home about.

    Maybe it was a White Tower knockoff.

  122. @Anonymous

    IIRC, some wag said about the F-35, “can’t run, can’t hide, can’t fight”. Shades of McNamara’s all things to all the services F-111.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  123. @Reg Cæsar

    Mean elevation, flattest, those are all integration problems, and it depends on how small you make your grid. I’d guess, Reg that Florida has way more land (in 10 sq-mi sized parcels) in proportion to the state’s area that does not have an elevation change of more than 10 ft. That’s for flatness, but, again, it could be defined in various ways.

    I wonder how they defined mean elevation for that stat. You have to have some area size to pick, with the elevations of each one averaged. Too small, and you don’t have the data. Too large, like county level (especially for Delaware) and “mean elevation” is meaningless.

  124. @Kratoklastes

    I’m sure that sort of sentiment [that they all have to go back] was common among the Wampanoag and Pequot.

    Where are the Wampanoag and Pequot today and why?

    How far back are you taking this “They all have to go back” idea?

    Immigrants from non-European countries and their descendants.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  125. @Federalist

    Immigrants from non-European countries and their descendants.

    We can’t keep even new illegals from coming in, let alone legal aliens from whatever source. But you want to remove immigrants from non-European countries and their descendants, who now number perhaps 35% of the nation’s voting population (or more, if you use the one-drop rule). I suppose if you’re gonna dream, you gotta dream big.

  126. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    No, but Norwegians have a superiority complex to match the Jews.

    Ten thousand Swedes ran through the weeds,
    chased by one Norwegian.

  127. Anonymous[492] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Development of the F-111 was mired in notorious scandal and corruption. All this has been forgotten. The Wiki article on the bird makes no mention of this at all.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  128. @Anonymous

    When I looked at the Wiki article on the F-104 a few years ago, it looked like it had been sanitized, even though the events were from a half century ago. Weird.

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