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Lots of guys have gotten instantly #Me-Tooed out of their careers recently. And Roseanne Barr got fired from her #1 rated TV show for not realizing Iran-born Valerie Jarrett was black. But Jussie Smollett merely dreamed up a blood libel against straight white male Trump voters, so Fox is slowly trying to figure out what to do with him. In the meantime, keep up the good work, Jussie. From Variety:

Jussie Smollett Returns to ‘Empire’ Set as Fox Struggles to Decide His Fate
By JOE OTTERSON and CYNTHIA LITTLETON

Now playing – Jussie Smollett…

Jussie Smollett is back on the set of “Empire” in Chicago following his release from police custody on Thursday, Variety has learned.

Smollett was released after posting bail in Chicago after police charged him with staging what was originally reported as a hate crime last month. He was originally intended to film throughout this week on the Fox series, but his role was dramatically reduced in light of his ongoing legal troubles.

Fox has stood behind the actor for the most part, issuing multiple statements backing him as evidence grew that he had staged his own assault. Earlier on Thursday though, the network released a new statement that said in part, “We are evaluating the situation and we are considering our options.”

Even with his mounting legal troubles, Smollett has big pockets of support within Fox and there was hope as late as Wednesday that he would be able to finish out his work on the series. “Empire” has about an episode and a half of filming to finish in its fifth season, or a little more than a week’s worth of work. …

During a press conference on Thursday morning, Chicago PD officials stated they believed Smollett staged the attack because he was “dissatisfied with his salary” on “Empire.” Multiple Fox insiders said Smollett never approached the network or studio for a raise. He is believed to be making about $60,000 an episode for the show’s current season. That’s up from about $20,000 when the series debuted in 2015, when Smollett was a lesser-known actor.

Police also said that Smollett had sent a threatening letter to himself that was received at Fox days before the attack. The detail and vehemence of the police case against Smollett — Chicago Police Department Superintendent Eddie Johnson called his actions “despicable” — puts more pressure on Fox to act. Smollett’s case could test the entertainment industry’s post-#MeToo resolve to stand up to allegations of wrongdoing and misconduct by prominent figures.

The tension within Fox about how to handle Smollett is heightened by the fact that the actor is well-liked among network and studio brass. He’s routinely described as the “consummate pro” who was always ready to do press promotional appearances on behalf of the show or the network. “When an executive needs a star to show up at a charity dinner, Jussie’s the one you call,” a senior Fox executive said.

Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.

Well, he is a lifelong leftist.

Anyway, I’d say: Let Jussie stay on the show, but he has to act out his entire moronic hate hoax exactly as it happened as a six story arc, with the Nigerian bodybuilder brothers playing their roles too. I’d watch that.

 
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  1. Jussie will be no more hampered by his hate hoax than that idiotic professor that vandalized her own car at Claremont. She did jail time and still works as a ‘teacher’ – we know the Left circles the wagons over anyone like the Juss-ist-ter.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    It's not a hoax. It's a genuine hate crime.
    , @Big Bill
    She was charged with insurance fraud. Trashing your car and lying to the insurance company is way worse than stirring up race/gender hate and lying to the cops.
    , @Anonymous
    It’s like the boy who cried wolf but with the twist that the villagers all get amnesia so they keep getting taken in again and again.
    , @Jake
    Circles the wagons and promotes. The Smottett family of ultra Leftist Jewish blacks calls Angela Davis Aunt - such is their love and respect for that murderous Marxist, whom they know very well.
  2. Nothing to see here… Keep moving…

    BTW, I didn’t make this up, I (didn’t) read it in the MSM…

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02/21/18/10109558-6730687-image-m-28_1550775064221.jpg
  3. He’s routinely described as the “consummate pro” who was always ready to do press promotional appearances on behalf of the show or the network. “When an executive needs a star to show up at a charity dinner, Jussie’s the one you call,” a senior Fox executive said.

    It should be forbidden to the MSM to use quotation marks without specific attributions.

    The temptation to just make stuff up is just too great.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Mr. M, And the network sends a car, Jussie gets a free meal and free publicity.
  4. Well, he is a lifelong leftist.

    It appears he’s a lifelong narcissist as well.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    What? Are you accusing the gay, attention-addicted, thespian prone to magical thinking who dreamed up, directed, and rehearsed a cartoonish scene (where he was cast as both a weepy victim deserving sympathy and a brave badass deserving respect) narcissistic?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    It appears he’s a lifelong narcissist as well.
     
    Wouldn't being black and queer square that trait? Jewish... that could go either way.
    , @Bubba
    I’ve heard the narcissistic “media whore” habit is very difficult to break.
  5. Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the ‘third lead.’ It could be that it’s problematic (hat tip, Sailer)) to just fire him. They may need him back to wrap up the season, and then he goes all Poochie to his home planet.

    • Agree: byrresheim
    • Replies: @Glt
    Compare with the Roseanne case
    , @kirok

    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the ‘third lead.’
     
    From "third lead" to "third rail."

    I think the chess game Fox is playing is, they'd like Jussie to play along while they cover their bets by reducing his screen time dramatically. If he somehow has a believable alibi, or anything to mitigate this fiasco, they don't get heat for throwing the colored man from the train.

    If he's a liar, then Fox's cowardice will be forgotten about while the vultures dive on Jussie's ripe carcass. Fox will then spin it as they were trying to be "the good guys" but were bamboozled just like everyone else who wanted to be bamboozled.

    This ain't about Jussie to them now. It's all about optics and money.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the ‘third lead.’
     
    Is that like the third rail? And are you sure it wasn't "third leg"?

    http://techwhirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Danger-thirdrail-Richard-Masoner-on-Flickr.jpg

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/GkzpWINCE3TqgKnRC5rn82WbjPU=/800x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3ASHU322WZDAY7DLFOCQDXJXGI.jpg

    , @Buffalo Joe
    Tex, "Game of Thrones" is way, way bigger than "Empire" and they replaced an actor, episode to episode. So who needs Smollett, just his character.
  6. ‘…Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.’

    He is black. One noticeable tendency among blacks is a shaky relationship with the truth. You just cannot take anything they say seriously.

    • Agree: anon1
    • Replies: @Svigor
    Half. The other half is Jewish. They're kinda known for the same thing, though.
    , @Anonymous
    Who the FUCK SAID HES BLACK, SO HE LIE, BUT FOR 300 YEARS WHITE MEN RAPED BLACK WOMEN AND TOLD THE BLACK WOMEN TO SHUT UP, OR LIE ABOUT IT UNTIL THE BABIES CAME OUT MIXED... PREJUDICED MOTHERFUCKERS.. WE ALL LIE
  7. but Jussie Smollett merely dreamed up a blood libel against straight white male Trump voters,

    He not only dreamed it up, he carried it out.

  8. Well, he is a lifelong leftist.

    I was going to say, he DID vote for Obama.

    Sidenote: on viewing of his brother’s twitter account, his brother is dumb as a cold rock, and supports Jussie with a “of mice and men” quality of devotion.

    I think this also reflects a far larger problem for black entrepreneurs and other successful blacks in the entertainment industry. The pathology of black culture is so deeply rooted, and even celebrated, that putting together an all black show like Empire or Cosby, and others to a lesser degree, and keeping it running is problematic because black folks can tend to implode, and take others with them, for the stupidest reasons imaginable.

    No-dad-having young black men, literally and figuratively swinging their bratty dick around because they think they can with impunity. They wind up in prison, divorce, destitution, and… wrecking TV shows. They can’t take frustration. Don’t want to suffer for anything worthwhile. No dad to tell them “no,” or to finish the game. They’re Nancy-boys with testosterone. Bitchy vain women who can punch you out.

    I just hope “blexit” gets some real political legs. It’s their only hope.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    No-dad-having young black men, literally and figuratively swinging their bratty dick around because they think they can with impunity.
     
    Smullett had a dad around though, didn't he?
    , @Danindc
    Nailed it!
  9. @South Texas Guy
    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the 'third lead.' It could be that it's problematic (hat tip, Sailer)) to just fire him. They may need him back to wrap up the season, and then he goes all Poochie to his home planet.

    Compare with the Roseanne case

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
  10. Well, he is a lifelong leftist.

    A bit weak as an explanation, don’t you think, sir?

  11. @e
    Well, he is a lifelong leftist.

    It appears he's a lifelong narcissist as well.

    What? Are you accusing the gay, attention-addicted, thespian prone to magical thinking who dreamed up, directed, and rehearsed a cartoonish scene (where he was cast as both a weepy victim deserving sympathy and a brave badass deserving respect) narcissistic?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    cast as both a weepy victim deserving sympathy and a brave badass deserving respect
     
    Ya know, that part right there is pretty darned amazing.
    , @Olorin
    Not to mention that this sort of thing is not only normal in infotainment circles, but finding new and more extreme forms of it to sell undergirds the entire industry.

    Which then gets to pass judgment on genuinely normal people outside those circles and stir up violence against us.

  12. Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.

    What was so elaborate about it?

    Please elaborate…

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    It's the "to be part of" that gave me pause..

    You see, Jussie was just caught up in the giant racist machinery of the thing.

    , @Fabian Forge
    Exactly. From the get-go, the only valid reason to doubt that this incident was a hate hoax was its breathtaking stupidity as a hate hoax. And Fox's apparent hesitation to can his sorry ass is a testament to his stratospheric privilege and power. The prosecution's bond proffer at his hearing is a public document, the Daily Mail article has a link. You can read it, together with the judge's comments. God knows there is a lot wrong with the Chicago Police Department but they did a masterful job nailing this creep, from the detectives gathering a mountain of irrefutable, damning hard evidence to the top brass piously proclaiming his victim status well after they knew he was the perp, to cover the continuing work of the investigators. This felony false claim charge is just the tip of the state law iceberg of provable violations from the evidence. And the federal terrorism charge from the hate hoax letter is another slam dunk.

    If he doesn't drop this innocence act right now and start negotiating his plea, he is a moron and his lawyer is committing malpractice.

    , @International Jew
    It had to be elaborated, in an expensive police investigation, over three weeks before the MSM understood what was clear to us right from the start.
  13. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:

    Lest we forget this blast from Chicago’s hate crime past:

    ‘Is that what a life is worth?’ Last of 4 defendants pleads guilty to recorded beating of teen with disability

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-facebook-live-hate-crime-20180712-story.html

    These were the four unwholesome looking black youths (with the now de rigeur chick member, thugness is not just for boys anymore) who kidnapped and tortured a disabled white kid and demanded a “three hundred dollar” ransom.

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-586ebc6f/turbine/ct-hate-crime-charges-in-facebook-live-attack-photos/700/700×394

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-facebook-live-hate-crime-20180712-story.html

    • Replies: @mmack
    Well the hometown narrative on Jussie is https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/glanton/ct-met-dahleen-glanton-jussie-smollett-apology-20190221-story.html

    “All of you people who DARE doubt Jussie’s story are just bigots and should be ashamed of yourselves because white people do bad things too, as outlined here, here, and here haters!”

    I like the example the columnist pulled from Boston involving two brothers sentenced for a crime in 2015. No mention of the joys Diversity! and a separate set of brothers brought to Boston in April of 2013 that killed three and wounded hundreds of others. Because that would be bigoted.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, A few years ago, in Chicago, a group of black teens beat a black honor student to death, taking turns hitting him with a 2x4. How do I know" They filmed it.
  14. @e
    Well, he is a lifelong leftist.

    It appears he's a lifelong narcissist as well.

    It appears he’s a lifelong narcissist as well.

    Wouldn’t being black and queer square that trait? Jewish… that could go either way.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    You neglected to to mention his cosmic levels of chutzpah -- news reports say he feels "betrayed" by the world's reaction to his scam -- which I think we can credit to his daddy's DNA contribution.
  15. This reminds me of the fairly bizarre David Begelman check-forging scandal detailed in Indecent Exposure.

    There, a pretty routine case of embezzlement became a circle-the-wagons Jews-v.-Gentiles drama where almost everyone involved came out worse off than they would have been if the studio had just severed ties with Begelman immediately.

    • Replies: @Anon
    It was a jew Columbia pictures CEO Alan Hirschfield who insisted on the investigation and forced the board to fire Begelman. Hirschfield was later fired for firing Begelman.

    Hirschfield was a NewYork money man and manager who tried to rein in the excessive expensive account living in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles people thought excessive expense accounts and embezzlement was normal
  16. @South Texas Guy
    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the 'third lead.' It could be that it's problematic (hat tip, Sailer)) to just fire him. They may need him back to wrap up the season, and then he goes all Poochie to his home planet.

    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the ‘third lead.’

    From “third lead” to “third rail.”

    I think the chess game Fox is playing is, they’d like Jussie to play along while they cover their bets by reducing his screen time dramatically. If he somehow has a believable alibi, or anything to mitigate this fiasco, they don’t get heat for throwing the colored man from the train.

    If he’s a liar, then Fox’s cowardice will be forgotten about while the vultures dive on Jussie’s ripe carcass. Fox will then spin it as they were trying to be “the good guys” but were bamboozled just like everyone else who wanted to be bamboozled.

    This ain’t about Jussie to them now. It’s all about optics and money.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Yes, "wanting to believe the victim" means you are good. Certainly better than the person who notices that victimhood is a currency and that people will go to great lengths to amass it.
    , @Jack D
    Apparently they are almost done filming the season and would like to get it in the can. Having to write Jussie out now on short notice would be problematic. By the time they film the next season it will be clearer if Jussie is unavailable due to being in jail or is an official pariah, in which case they can just write his character out of the plot ("Jussie has moved to Wakanda") or if by some miracle he manages to maintain his credibility they can go on as if nothing happened, and in the meantime they are not seen as being mean to a gay person of color.
  17. @South Texas Guy
    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the 'third lead.' It could be that it's problematic (hat tip, Sailer)) to just fire him. They may need him back to wrap up the season, and then he goes all Poochie to his home planet.

    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the ‘third lead.’

    Is that like the third rail? And are you sure it wasn’t “third leg”?

  18. Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.

    IOW they don’t understand the race baiting concept ?? It’s their stock in trade.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @res

    IOW they don’t understand the race baiting concept ?? It’s their stock in trade.
     
    "It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It"

    Usually attributed to Upton Sinclair, but there are some older versions: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/

    This one from William Jennings Bryan in 1893 seems particularly appropriate for The Current Year:

    It is useless to argue with a man whose opinion is based upon a personal or pecuniary interest; the only way to deal with him is to outvote him.
     
  19. Why the surprise that Jussie has been retained?

    As the Chief of the Chicago Police Department, who described himself as “a black man” … “who knows the disparities and the history,” said during his press conference, Smollett “took advantage of the pain and anger of racism to promote his career.”

    Is that really wrong?

    How else can a talented black man succeed in an America that has had only one “black” President?

  20. Has anyone pointed out how racist it is that journalists repeatedly refer to the two brothers as “the two brothers” in their articles?

  21. Kudos to Method Hoaxing.

  22. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Dixon

    He got to resume his career, why not Smollett?

  23. @Glt
    Compare with the Roseanne case

    Thanks.

  24. @Glt
    Compare with the Roseanne case

    Thanks.

  25. In other gay/3rd-world/jewish news, my calcs indicate that 40% of iSteve readership can translate the Writing on the Wall:

    Judge grants citizenship to twin son of gay couple

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A federal judge in California ruled Thursday that a twin son of a gay married couple has been an American citizen since birth, handing a defeat to the U.S. government, which had only granted the status to his brother.

    https://apnews.com/065ce98fe6544f6e86d323a3cba9307d

    Andrew Dvash-Banks was studying in Israel when he met his future husband, Elad, an Israeli citizen. Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel, they moved to Canada, where they wed in 2010. The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    So….. American Citizens! Unbelievably tricky story.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Somethin's really stickin' in my craw here, McKenna. "Twin Son" twice? In both the headline and first paragraph? Should there be a couple [sic]'s there?

    I feel like "Twin Son" implies one was cloned from the other.
    , @Lurker

    Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel
     
    And still can't in Israel.
    , @duncsbaby
    This country has far too many gay Canadian Jews already.

    With apologies to Bobby Bittman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Levy_(TV_personality)

    , @Asagirian
    The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    The real handmaid's tale is the globo-homo libertarianization of bodies. Just pay a woman and hire her womb to create children for freako 'gay couples'. Everything for sale. It is not religion and tradition that turns humans into properties. It is libertarianism and degeneracy.
    , @Anon
    I remember that The LASlimes rejoiced. I didn’t see it in the Los Angeles Jewish journal. The Jewish journal tries to appeal to all the jews not just the lunatic left. Some of the orthodox Rabbis know the injunction against gays is in the Jewish, not Christian part of the Bible.
  26. @Reg Cæsar

    Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.
     
    What was so elaborate about it?

    Please elaborate...

    It’s the “to be part of” that gave me pause..

    You see, Jussie was just caught up in the giant racist machinery of the thing.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  27. @JimDandy
    What? Are you accusing the gay, attention-addicted, thespian prone to magical thinking who dreamed up, directed, and rehearsed a cartoonish scene (where he was cast as both a weepy victim deserving sympathy and a brave badass deserving respect) narcissistic?

    cast as both a weepy victim deserving sympathy and a brave badass deserving respect

    Ya know, that part right there is pretty darned amazing.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  28. I can’t wait to see how many mainstream celebs express outrage at Smollett’s hate crime, now that the roles have been reversed, and he’s revealed as the perp, and whites are revealed as the victim.

    Just kidding. Everyone knows the answer is none.

    • Replies: @Polynikes
    Charles Barkley joked about it during the halftime of the NBA Allstar game. No real outrage, but he probably isn't the type to express outrage in the other direction. He's a black celebrity with an actual sense of humor.
    , @Forbes
    Just as very few of those accused of alleged MeToo misconduct were charged with any crimes, yet had their lives and careers destroyed by years-old accusations, with hardly a pause to consider fairness.

    Meanwhile, Smollett has been charged with a felony based on corroborating evidence, and his employer is considering options.

    Is there any employment situation where an arrest, much less a felony, doesn't result in immediate suspension (even if with pay)...
  29. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Jussie will be no more hampered by his hate hoax than that idiotic professor that vandalized her own car at Claremont. She did jail time and still works as a 'teacher' - we know the Left circles the wagons over anyone like the Juss-ist-ter.

    It’s not a hoax. It’s a genuine hate crime.

    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s not a hoax. It’s a genuine hate crime.
     
    That's the "hate" part of "hate hoax".
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    Dragged Across Concrete (2019 Movie) Official Trailer – Mel Gibson, Vince Vaughn, Jennifer Carpenter

    Published on Feb 21, 2019
    DRAGGED ACROSS CONCRETE follows two police detectives who find themselves suspended when a video of their strong-arm tactics is leaked to the media. With little money and no options, the embittered policemen descend into the criminal underworld and find more than they wanted waiting in the shadows.

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  31. @Reg Cæsar

    Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.
     
    What was so elaborate about it?

    Please elaborate...

    Exactly. From the get-go, the only valid reason to doubt that this incident was a hate hoax was its breathtaking stupidity as a hate hoax. And Fox’s apparent hesitation to can his sorry ass is a testament to his stratospheric privilege and power. The prosecution’s bond proffer at his hearing is a public document, the Daily Mail article has a link. You can read it, together with the judge’s comments. God knows there is a lot wrong with the Chicago Police Department but they did a masterful job nailing this creep, from the detectives gathering a mountain of irrefutable, damning hard evidence to the top brass piously proclaiming his victim status well after they knew he was the perp, to cover the continuing work of the investigators. This felony false claim charge is just the tip of the state law iceberg of provable violations from the evidence. And the federal terrorism charge from the hate hoax letter is another slam dunk.

    If he doesn’t drop this innocence act right now and start negotiating his plea, he is a moron and his lawyer is committing malpractice.

    • Replies: @res

    God knows there is a lot wrong with the Chicago Police Department but they did a masterful job nailing this creep, from the detectives gathering a mountain of irrefutable, damning hard evidence to the top brass piously proclaiming his victim status well after they knew he was the perp, to cover the continuing work of the investigators.
     
    I would love to know the exact role of the top brass here. Were they in on in the plan or did they just make their usual pious proclamations until the evidence became too overwhelming to ignore? In particular, what messages was "Special Ed" sending down during the early stages?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    This felony false claim charge is just the tip of the state law iceberg of provable violations from the evidence. And the federal terrorism charge from the hate hoax letter is another slam dunk.
     
    The original hate crime charge should be thrown at him as well. Once we start treating hate hoaxes as hate crimes in themselves will we see some progress in this area.
  32. this guy has too many pokemon points to fire. Don’t know what the minimum is, but he is one of those high scores you used to see on space invader games, permanently. (huh, huh ‘GAY’!)

  33. @kirok

    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the ‘third lead.’
     
    From "third lead" to "third rail."

    I think the chess game Fox is playing is, they'd like Jussie to play along while they cover their bets by reducing his screen time dramatically. If he somehow has a believable alibi, or anything to mitigate this fiasco, they don't get heat for throwing the colored man from the train.

    If he's a liar, then Fox's cowardice will be forgotten about while the vultures dive on Jussie's ripe carcass. Fox will then spin it as they were trying to be "the good guys" but were bamboozled just like everyone else who wanted to be bamboozled.

    This ain't about Jussie to them now. It's all about optics and money.

    Yes, “wanting to believe the victim” means you are good. Certainly better than the person who notices that victimhood is a currency and that people will go to great lengths to amass it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Yes, “wanting to believe the victim” means you are good. Certainly better than the person who notices that victimhood is a currency and that people will go to great lengths to amass it.
     
    Another good Tyrion 2 comment.
  34. @Mr McKenna
    In other gay/3rd-world/jewish news, my calcs indicate that 40% of iSteve readership can translate the Writing on the Wall:

    https://i1.mail.com/mcom/794/9020794%2Cpd=1%2Cf=teaser-card-xl/elad-dvash-banks-andrew-dvash-banks-ethan-dvash-ba.jpg


    Judge grants citizenship to twin son of gay couple

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A federal judge in California ruled Thursday that a twin son of a gay married couple has been an American citizen since birth, handing a defeat to the U.S. government, which had only granted the status to his brother.

    https://apnews.com/065ce98fe6544f6e86d323a3cba9307d

    Andrew Dvash-Banks was studying in Israel when he met his future husband, Elad, an Israeli citizen. Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel, they moved to Canada, where they wed in 2010. The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    So..... American Citizens! Unbelievably tricky story.

    Somethin’s really stickin’ in my craw here, McKenna. “Twin Son” twice? In both the headline and first paragraph? Should there be a couple [sic]’s there?

    I feel like “Twin Son” implies one was cloned from the other.

  35. Just as the racially aggrieved minority can never be racist, nor can the racially aggrieved hoaxer ever be punished.

    Think of his life continuing as if nothing happened as a down-payment on reparations.

  36. • Replies: @Jack D
    Speaking of Berkeley, what ever happened to Pablo "They"?
  37. Why do people do stuff like this?

    Victimhood is a basket of currencies which fluctuate in relative value. Some, like black victimhood, are always strong. Others, like Christian victimhood, are almost always weak.

    Each currency’s value is based on the public’s perception of its purity, which is partly derived from real events of victimhood but also from manipulation, groupthink and PR.

    As with any asset class, once you hold enough, you are strongly incentivised to advocate for it. That is, you gain from establishing its purity – its grounding in real, heinous events. Jussie Smollett was attempting to do this, of course through dishonest means.

    The benefits are that victimhood, as a currency, may be exchanged for real money, through positive discrimination in job hiring, book deals or social deference, or even used as a “get out of jail free” card. The possibilities are broad and novel ways are being invented all of the time. Sometimes it is used just to punish and humiliate people you resent.

    Another interesting development, with the rise of social media, is that the currencies of group victimhood have greatly increased in value. For example, being “trans” is something that you can exchange for stuff – as long as you’re willing to talk vaguely about oppression. On the other hand, simply being the victim of a crime has diminished in relative value.

    Perhaps this is partly a result of people’s lives getting better? Fewer people have much individual victimhood currency so fewer people advocate for it. This runs counter to the laws of supply and demand, but then, so do all speculative asset prices.

    Or to put it all into a few simple formula:

    Group victimhood value = wrong historically done to individuals in group as filtered through public perception.

    Individual victimhood value = wrong done to specific individual as filtered through public perception.

    Individual’s victimhood wealth = group victimhood value multiplied by (individual victimhood value + 1)

    It is the +1 that is the most recent development and has caused such a bull-run in group victimhood currencies.

    This means that a white Christian straight man who is robbed still gets no value. As they are multiplying the real crime by 0. Meanwhile, the gay, black-ish actor who staged a crime against themselves will still have some valuable currency.

    The future* is people endlessly hawking their own group victimhood currencies on social media and then using it to buy stuff they want. Inevitably, this will attract a lot of dishonest people and a huge number of hate hoaxes will be staged.

    The future is the Democratic 2020 Presidential primaries.

    • Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster
    "Victimhood is a basket of currencies...."

    It is also a game that some "victims" play consistently better than others.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/10/my-victimhood-is-bigger-than-yours-or.html
    , @res
    How about someone starts a market for victimhood? I think it is time to short Jussie.
    , @Anonymous
    This is to do with the 'blank slate'. In the old days, people thought losers were born not made, and apportioned their sympathy accordingly.
  38. @Mr McKenna
    Nothing to see here... Keep moving...

    BTW, I didn't make this up, I (didn't) read it in the MSM...

  39. • Replies: @donut
    LOL for this and Foreign Expert 's comment below.
  40. Anyone who can hold on to a sub sandwich straight through a racist attack deserves a second chance.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Jussie is the kind of guy that keeps a death grip on a foot long whenever he can find one.
    , @Pontius
    Everyone needs a hero.
  41. Here in the UK “The Guardian” has relegated web coverage of the Smollett case to its TV page.

    The memory hole beckons.

  42. A month ago I never knew that there was anyone with the names “Jussie” or “Smollett,” and I didn’t know that there’s a TV show called Empire, but tens of millions of people like me do now. What will that do for the show’s ratings? Perhaps the network is indebted to Smollett for pumping new life into the show’s future.

  43. Why fire him now? He practically wrote a storyline for several episodes.

    • Replies: @donut
    I wonder if the Cohen Bros. would be interested ?
  44. Coming soon to America the Kamala Harris Presidency where: criticizing hate crime hoaxers will, itself, become a “hate crime,” Jussie Smollett will be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, a Tawana Brawley commemorative stamp will be issued, and the remains of James Hodgkinson will be exhumed and interned in Arlington National Cemetery next to JFK.

  45. @Tyrion 2
    Why do people do stuff like this?

    Victimhood is a basket of currencies which fluctuate in relative value. Some, like black victimhood, are always strong. Others, like Christian victimhood, are almost always weak.

    Each currency's value is based on the public's perception of its purity, which is partly derived from real events of victimhood but also from manipulation, groupthink and PR.

    As with any asset class, once you hold enough, you are strongly incentivised to advocate for it. That is, you gain from establishing its purity - its grounding in real, heinous events. Jussie Smollett was attempting to do this, of course through dishonest means.

    The benefits are that victimhood, as a currency, may be exchanged for real money, through positive discrimination in job hiring, book deals or social deference, or even used as a "get out of jail free" card. The possibilities are broad and novel ways are being invented all of the time. Sometimes it is used just to punish and humiliate people you resent.

    Another interesting development, with the rise of social media, is that the currencies of group victimhood have greatly increased in value. For example, being "trans" is something that you can exchange for stuff - as long as you're willing to talk vaguely about oppression. On the other hand, simply being the victim of a crime has diminished in relative value.

    Perhaps this is partly a result of people's lives getting better? Fewer people have much individual victimhood currency so fewer people advocate for it. This runs counter to the laws of supply and demand, but then, so do all speculative asset prices.

    Or to put it all into a few simple formula:

    Group victimhood value = wrong historically done to individuals in group as filtered through public perception.

    Individual victimhood value = wrong done to specific individual as filtered through public perception.

    Individual's victimhood wealth = group victimhood value multiplied by (individual victimhood value + 1)

    It is the +1 that is the most recent development and has caused such a bull-run in group victimhood currencies.

    This means that a white Christian straight man who is robbed still gets no value. As they are multiplying the real crime by 0. Meanwhile, the gay, black-ish actor who staged a crime against themselves will still have some valuable currency.

    The future* is people endlessly hawking their own group victimhood currencies on social media and then using it to buy stuff they want. Inevitably, this will attract a lot of dishonest people and a huge number of hate hoaxes will be staged.

    The future is the Democratic 2020 Presidential primaries.

    “Victimhood is a basket of currencies….”

    It is also a game that some “victims” play consistently better than others.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/10/my-victimhood-is-bigger-than-yours-or.html

  46. @Mr McKenna
    In other gay/3rd-world/jewish news, my calcs indicate that 40% of iSteve readership can translate the Writing on the Wall:

    https://i1.mail.com/mcom/794/9020794%2Cpd=1%2Cf=teaser-card-xl/elad-dvash-banks-andrew-dvash-banks-ethan-dvash-ba.jpg


    Judge grants citizenship to twin son of gay couple

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A federal judge in California ruled Thursday that a twin son of a gay married couple has been an American citizen since birth, handing a defeat to the U.S. government, which had only granted the status to his brother.

    https://apnews.com/065ce98fe6544f6e86d323a3cba9307d

    Andrew Dvash-Banks was studying in Israel when he met his future husband, Elad, an Israeli citizen. Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel, they moved to Canada, where they wed in 2010. The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    So..... American Citizens! Unbelievably tricky story.

    Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel

    And still can’t in Israel.

  47. @Mr McKenna
    In other gay/3rd-world/jewish news, my calcs indicate that 40% of iSteve readership can translate the Writing on the Wall:

    https://i1.mail.com/mcom/794/9020794%2Cpd=1%2Cf=teaser-card-xl/elad-dvash-banks-andrew-dvash-banks-ethan-dvash-ba.jpg


    Judge grants citizenship to twin son of gay couple

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A federal judge in California ruled Thursday that a twin son of a gay married couple has been an American citizen since birth, handing a defeat to the U.S. government, which had only granted the status to his brother.

    https://apnews.com/065ce98fe6544f6e86d323a3cba9307d

    Andrew Dvash-Banks was studying in Israel when he met his future husband, Elad, an Israeli citizen. Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel, they moved to Canada, where they wed in 2010. The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    So..... American Citizens! Unbelievably tricky story.

    This country has far too many gay Canadian Jews already.

    With apologies to Bobby Bittman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Levy_(TV_personality)

    • LOL: Bubba
    • Replies: @Bubba
    And I miss Lola Heatherton with Sammy Maudlin and John Candy as Divine...

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL0az0YX0AIMwfU.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL04Xq5X4AAdj1w.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbPXHMrCcAAECqP.png
  48. Al Sharpton has weighed-in on the Smollett Affair. As the High Priest of hate crime hoaxes, shouldn’t he have the last word?

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sharpton-at-meeting-with-kamala-harris-says-smollett-should-face-maximum-punishment-if-allegations-true

    • Replies: @Detective Club
    One thing that Rev. Al's FBI handlers will tell you about him : if the phony Rev doesn't have a good piece of the action, he'll get crazy jealous in a New York minute. Kamasutra Harris is planning on giving the shady Rev. "walking-around-money" for his personal use in the Dem. presidential primary next year. Rev. Al is not a racist. Greenbacks are his favorite color!
    , @donut
    Maybe the Rev. Al should start up a consulting firm for wannabe hate hoaxers .
    , @Fabian Forge
    "That's MY game, Juicy! Back off!"
  49. Vox Day has a point or two about the Chinese vs US social credit systems:

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/02/a-tale-of-two-social-credit-systems.html

    How long until the NYT is shrieking about China’s system because it sanctions actual uncivilized behavior instead of closely tracking the number of intersectional diversity Pokémon points tied up in the individual’s identity?

  50. “Let Jussie stay on the show, but he has to act out his entire moronic hate hoax exactly as it happened as a six story arc, with the Nigerian bodybuilder brothers playing their roles too. I’d watch that.”

    Remakes are seldom better than the original.

    (Does victory lap predicting Juicy Smollett would not be fired from his TV show. )

    So much for the myth of the myth of Jewish black priviledge, eh Jack D?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The game is not over yet.
  51. OT – Apparently the “Algorithmic Justice League” is a thing …

    https://www.ajlunited.org/

    Whaddya say, Mr. Sailer?

  52. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Jussie will be no more hampered by his hate hoax than that idiotic professor that vandalized her own car at Claremont. She did jail time and still works as a 'teacher' - we know the Left circles the wagons over anyone like the Juss-ist-ter.

    She was charged with insurance fraud. Trashing your car and lying to the insurance company is way worse than stirring up race/gender hate and lying to the cops.

  53. Apparently his feels ‘betrayed’ and is saying he is innocent. Even with a big gun like Garagos as counsel, that seems like quite a limb to go out on given what we know so far, and I’m assuming CPD has extensive video and other evidence to throw at him.

    Are we looking at some kind of Alford plea deal? Would the city even accept that?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Sure they would accept it if their other conditions are met. These would include some kind of large restitution for police time, "community service" and probably at least a token jail sentence (Jussie's lawyers will fight hard against the latter). They would also have to work out some kind of non-apology apology - "even though I was really attacked, I apologize for wasting everyone's time."

    Jussie's protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense ("if the ski mask don't fit you must acquit") but there's a black police chief denouncing him, a black judge, etc. and half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors. And it has been officially announced that Jussie did this for selfish reasons and not to help out the black race. As I have said before, they don't dare put him on the witness stand to peddle this bullshit and without his testimony, there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt - the brother's testimony, the paper and electronic trail, etc. But maybe he thinks that just by maintaining his innocence and THREATENING to go to trial that this will cow the prosecutors into a more favorable plea bargain - if he admitted guilt now then the prosecutors would have nothing left to lose. I am sure that the prosecutors want to make this go away for other reasons - the trial of Jussie is not the background music that they want for the Democratic primary season. But not so badly that they are going to let him go with only a slap on the wrist. From now until his plea bargain there is going to be a lot of Kabuki theater and leaks to the press as both sides posture and flex their muscles but ultimately they both want to make this go away.
  54. @Stephen Paul Foster
    Al Sharpton has weighed-in on the Smollett Affair. As the High Priest of hate crime hoaxes, shouldn't he have the last word?


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sharpton-at-meeting-with-kamala-harris-says-smollett-should-face-maximum-punishment-if-allegations-true

    One thing that Rev. Al’s FBI handlers will tell you about him : if the phony Rev doesn’t have a good piece of the action, he’ll get crazy jealous in a New York minute. Kamasutra Harris is planning on giving the shady Rev. “walking-around-money” for his personal use in the Dem. presidential primary next year. Rev. Al is not a racist. Greenbacks are his favorite color!

  55. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Jussie will be no more hampered by his hate hoax than that idiotic professor that vandalized her own car at Claremont. She did jail time and still works as a 'teacher' - we know the Left circles the wagons over anyone like the Juss-ist-ter.

    It’s like the boy who cried wolf but with the twist that the villagers all get amnesia so they keep getting taken in again and again.

  56. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Jussie will be no more hampered by his hate hoax than that idiotic professor that vandalized her own car at Claremont. She did jail time and still works as a 'teacher' - we know the Left circles the wagons over anyone like the Juss-ist-ter.

    Circles the wagons and promotes. The Smottett family of ultra Leftist Jewish blacks calls Angela Davis Aunt – such is their love and respect for that murderous Marxist, whom they know very well.

  57. @Mr McKenna
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02/21/19/10109560-6730687-Ome-m-29_1550775769885.jpg

    LOL for this and Foreign Expert ‘s comment below.

  58. @The Alarmist
    Why fire him now? He practically wrote a storyline for several episodes.

    I wonder if the Cohen Bros. would be interested ?

  59. @Stephen Paul Foster
    Al Sharpton has weighed-in on the Smollett Affair. As the High Priest of hate crime hoaxes, shouldn't he have the last word?


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sharpton-at-meeting-with-kamala-harris-says-smollett-should-face-maximum-punishment-if-allegations-true

    Maybe the Rev. Al should start up a consulting firm for wannabe hate hoaxers .

  60. @Svigor
    I can't wait to see how many mainstream celebs express outrage at Smollett's hate crime, now that the roles have been reversed, and he's revealed as the perp, and whites are revealed as the victim.

    Just kidding. Everyone knows the answer is none.

    Charles Barkley joked about it during the halftime of the NBA Allstar game. No real outrage, but he probably isn’t the type to express outrage in the other direction. He’s a black celebrity with an actual sense of humor.

  61. @Stephen Paul Foster
    Al Sharpton has weighed-in on the Smollett Affair. As the High Priest of hate crime hoaxes, shouldn't he have the last word?


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sharpton-at-meeting-with-kamala-harris-says-smollett-should-face-maximum-punishment-if-allegations-true

    “That’s MY game, Juicy! Back off!”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    You no go here Mugu Guyman
  62. @e
    Well, he is a lifelong leftist.

    It appears he's a lifelong narcissist as well.

    I’ve heard the narcissistic “media whore” habit is very difficult to break.

  63. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Jobs that only illegals must do…

    By the 2000s, more than half of American farm workers were undocumented, according to the Labor Department. But now — thanks to border enforcement, the surging cost of smugglers and changes in migration patterns — the number of people crossing into the United States illegally is nearing the lowest level since the early 2000s. There are more Mexicans leaving the United States than arriving there.

    Gaslighting

    To fill those positions, employers have turned to temporary visa programs that recruit workers in Mexico and Central America. Since 2016, the number of U.S. agricultural visas has grown from 165,000 to 242,000, a record high, according to the Labor Department. Amid an intractable debate over immigration and border security, America’s labor force is quietly being transformed, as many employers see no choice but to shift from illegal to legal labor.

    Amazing what happens when there is no choice.

    https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/feb/22/farmers-turn-to-interim-visas-to-find-e/?business

    Original source reposted from Bezos Blog.

  64. OFF TOPIC

    Trump and the Conservativism Inc. propaganda whore grifters will be screaming about Bernie Sanders and socialism while anti-White Jew Jared “Bolshevik Boy” Kushner is flooding more nation-wrecking mass legal immigration into the United States.

    Trump and the Republican Party ruling class push mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Trump and the Republican Party ruling class are treasonous rat Bolshevik nation wreckers who push mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    • Agree: densa
  65. Videos show that it’s really Smollett who is the Smirker.

  66. I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    • Replies: @Lowe
    This sounds like trolling, but I will take the bait.

    Jussie Smollett has already been written out of the last 2 episodes of Empire. Things are not going well for him. It is the Democrats who need to back away, badly, not the cops.
    , @Anon
    Retired probation officer here. I know exactly what you’re talking about. I had to walk on egg shells for years. My career suicide was sending rapists off to maximum terms in state prison instead of the 3 week evaluation in a mental hospital and then released to commit another rape. I managed to change that to state prison but I could have been tortured and killed by black panthers White liberals or black Muslims.

    Nothing has changed in 60 years.
    , @Clyde
    Many thanks for your perspective!
    , @MBlanc46
    We’re stupid in the sense that they’ve walked all over us for sixty years and we haven’t a clue about what to do about it.
    , @Fabian Forge
    Well friend you're closer (I'm already out of Chicago; way out) so maybe I'm being a Pollyanna here. I just don't see how the outcome you describe could be possible under these facts. But if the thing does play out as you say, hand me the black pill. It's over. In any event, thank you for your service.
    , @Jack D
    You are being too pessimistic here. Federal charges are still coming - the Feds have not forgotten. Jussie is now persona non grata among the Hollywood crowd. He is not going to be sipping champagne and caviar at Hollywood parties while you drink cold coffee and eat stale donuts in your patrol car. He has caused embarrassment to a number of important Democrat politicians who USED TO BE his friends and were made by him to look like fools. Kamala Harris doesn't like to be made to look like a fool when she is aiming for POTUS. He has been voted off the island. The Party Line from now on is that he did this for purely selfish reasons to get more money from Fox (the Jew side of him coming out) and not to help People of Color, so he deserves whatever he gets from the justice system. Maybe 5 years from now he can get some bit parts on a BET series or he can sell rap records over the internet for his hardcore black fans but his mainstream legitimacy is finito. He is the new Milli Vanilli.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Blue, Nice comment. Much to think about from your perspective.
  67. @Arclight
    Apparently his feels 'betrayed' and is saying he is innocent. Even with a big gun like Garagos as counsel, that seems like quite a limb to go out on given what we know so far, and I'm assuming CPD has extensive video and other evidence to throw at him.

    Are we looking at some kind of Alford plea deal? Would the city even accept that?

    Sure they would accept it if their other conditions are met. These would include some kind of large restitution for police time, “community service” and probably at least a token jail sentence (Jussie’s lawyers will fight hard against the latter). They would also have to work out some kind of non-apology apology – “even though I was really attacked, I apologize for wasting everyone’s time.”

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense (“if the ski mask don’t fit you must acquit”) but there’s a black police chief denouncing him, a black judge, etc. and half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors. And it has been officially announced that Jussie did this for selfish reasons and not to help out the black race. As I have said before, they don’t dare put him on the witness stand to peddle this bullshit and without his testimony, there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt – the brother’s testimony, the paper and electronic trail, etc. But maybe he thinks that just by maintaining his innocence and THREATENING to go to trial that this will cow the prosecutors into a more favorable plea bargain – if he admitted guilt now then the prosecutors would have nothing left to lose. I am sure that the prosecutors want to make this go away for other reasons – the trial of Jussie is not the background music that they want for the Democratic primary season. But not so badly that they are going to let him go with only a slap on the wrist. From now until his plea bargain there is going to be a lot of Kabuki theater and leaks to the press as both sides posture and flex their muscles but ultimately they both want to make this go away.

    • Replies: @snorlax

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense
     
    That's exactly what he's thinking. Blacks believe whatever "so you're telling me there's a chance" theory of innocence promulgated by black defendants (O.J., Angela Davis, Chris Brown, Ray Lewis, "Tawana told the truth!"), seize on non sequiturs (Mark Fuhrman! Rodney King! Nooses on a tree!) and if all else fails insist he's being treated unfairly by police and prosecutors because he's black. O.J.'s white attorneys wanted him to take a deal but Cochran wisely ixnayed that idea when he was hired; he knew the mostly black jury guaranteed an acquittal or mistrial.

    That is, unless the defendant is perceived as an Uncle Tom. The Dems could see all the polls showing 90% of blacks believing in O.J.'s innocence were causing a significant problem with moderate whites and non-blacks, so they had all the black churches tell their congregations about an alleged O.J. quote where he's supposed to have said "I'm not black; I'm O.J." Cosby signed his legal death warrant when he aggressively criticized underclass black culture.

    Post-O.J., big-city prosecutors wised up about black jurors, so Jussie's strategy is likely more directed at public opinion (Chicago is plurality black) — putting pressure on the D.A. to drop the charges or agree to a slap on the wrist, or else put his re-election at risk.

    half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors.
     
    Is this based on your experience or is it speculation? My impression as stated above is blacks of any description will always circle the wagons for any fellow (left-wing) black.
    , @Arclight
    Yeah, his continued statements of innocence seem pretty nuts at this point, even taking into account some kind of hope that in a trial a mostly black jury won't be likely to throw the book at him. A look over at the comments at The Root show that most people 100% believe he concocted this and are pretty fed up with his attempts to weasel out of responsibility.

    I am guessing his lawyers were going to try and work some kind of plea deal without jail time initially and he won't shut up. I think Garagos now is going for an Alford plea, where he does not admit guilt but does concede the evidence is sufficient to convict him - that way he can keep claiming he is innocent but had to make an agreement because those wily CPD detectives worked with disgruntled extras to frame him.
    , @donut
    The state shouldn't offer him any kind of deal , a slap on the wrist is only going to signal that this kind of thing is okay .
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic...
     
    Consider his choice of profession.
  68. @kirok

    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the ‘third lead.’
     
    From "third lead" to "third rail."

    I think the chess game Fox is playing is, they'd like Jussie to play along while they cover their bets by reducing his screen time dramatically. If he somehow has a believable alibi, or anything to mitigate this fiasco, they don't get heat for throwing the colored man from the train.

    If he's a liar, then Fox's cowardice will be forgotten about while the vultures dive on Jussie's ripe carcass. Fox will then spin it as they were trying to be "the good guys" but were bamboozled just like everyone else who wanted to be bamboozled.

    This ain't about Jussie to them now. It's all about optics and money.

    Apparently they are almost done filming the season and would like to get it in the can. Having to write Jussie out now on short notice would be problematic. By the time they film the next season it will be clearer if Jussie is unavailable due to being in jail or is an official pariah, in which case they can just write his character out of the plot (“Jussie has moved to Wakanda”) or if by some miracle he manages to maintain his credibility they can go on as if nothing happened, and in the meantime they are not seen as being mean to a gay person of color.

    • Replies: @donut
    (“Jussie has moved to Wakanda”) . That's funny at first glance but I think you should contact the producers with that idea . If Jussie is unavailable for the next season they can do a spin off . The only draw back is that in Africa a black faggot like Hussie will get some real hate laid on his ass .
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, Too funny, …"like to get it in the can."
    , @athEIst
    gay person of color.

    You mean
    gay jew of color
  69. @eah
    http://theredelephants.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/eric-clanton.jpg

    Speaking of Berkeley, what ever happened to Pablo “They”?

    • Replies: @res

    Speaking of Berkeley, what ever happened to Pablo “They”?
     
    The most recent thing I see is that he was supposed to have appeared in court two weeks ago: http://www.dailycal.org/2018/11/17/pablo-gomez-scheduled-to-re-appear-in-court-on-feb-8/

    So your question is very timely. I don't see anything further though. As a lawyer, do you know how to check if this happened? The initial hearing was at http://www.alameda.courts.ca.gov/Pages.aspx/Oakland-Ren-C-Davidson-Courthouse
  70. @mama jama

    Well, he is a lifelong leftist.
     
    I was going to say, he DID vote for Obama.

    Sidenote: on viewing of his brother's twitter account, his brother is dumb as a cold rock, and supports Jussie with a "of mice and men" quality of devotion.

    I think this also reflects a far larger problem for black entrepreneurs and other successful blacks in the entertainment industry. The pathology of black culture is so deeply rooted, and even celebrated, that putting together an all black show like Empire or Cosby, and others to a lesser degree, and keeping it running is problematic because black folks can tend to implode, and take others with them, for the stupidest reasons imaginable.

    No-dad-having young black men, literally and figuratively swinging their bratty dick around because they think they can with impunity. They wind up in prison, divorce, destitution, and... wrecking TV shows. They can't take frustration. Don't want to suffer for anything worthwhile. No dad to tell them "no," or to finish the game. They're Nancy-boys with testosterone. Bitchy vain women who can punch you out.

    I just hope "blexit" gets some real political legs. It's their only hope.

    No-dad-having young black men, literally and figuratively swinging their bratty dick around because they think they can with impunity.

    Smullett had a dad around though, didn’t he?

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yes, but his dad was a nice Jewish boy.
    , @Old Palo Altan
    "no-dad-having".

    I wonder how long before that gets into the Oxford English Dictionary?
  71. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Let Jussie stay on the show, but he has to act out his entire moronic hate hoax exactly as it happened as a six story arc, with the Nigerian bodybuilder brothers playing their roles too. I’d watch that."

    Remakes are seldom better than the original.

    (Does victory lap predicting Juicy Smollett would not be fired from his TV show. )

    So much for the myth of the myth of Jewish black priviledge, eh Jack D?

    The game is not over yet.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    LOL

    For the record, on a personal level I want the justice system to function as intended and very much prefer that Smollett go to jail.

    But based on the patterns I have been noticing, it's not going to happen.
  72. @Foreign Expert
    Anyone who can hold on to a sub sandwich straight through a racist attack deserves a second chance.

    Jussie is the kind of guy that keeps a death grip on a foot long whenever he can find one.

    • LOL: donut
  73. @Svigor
    It's not a hoax. It's a genuine hate crime.

    It’s not a hoax. It’s a genuine hate crime.

    That’s the “hate” part of “hate hoax”.

    • Replies: @res


    It’s not a hoax. It’s a genuine hate crime.
     
    That’s the “hate” part of “hate hoax”.
     
    That double entendre is one of the things that makes "hate hoax" better than "hate crime hoax."
  74. Lynching, why not a public lynching of this clown and it could be on the Show. Either that or perhaps a threesome with his 2 body builder buddies. That could be fun too.

  75. @Tyrion 2
    Yes, "wanting to believe the victim" means you are good. Certainly better than the person who notices that victimhood is a currency and that people will go to great lengths to amass it.

    Yes, “wanting to believe the victim” means you are good. Certainly better than the person who notices that victimhood is a currency and that people will go to great lengths to amass it.

    Another good Tyrion 2 comment.

  76. Jussie Smollett — age 36 — and his anti-White HATE HOAX scam are rancid representations of the anti-White animosity that animates the spirit of this age.

    Jared Kushner — age 38 — is a Jew globalizer Israel First rat who sits in the White House and has the ear of Trump.

    Who has more power, and who should White Core American Patriots focus on?

    Jared Kushner has more power to shape the demography and future political atmosphere of the United States. Jared Kushner has much more political power and he is a tremendous political vulnerability for Trump.

    While we are watching the pea brain Smollett entertain us with his HATE HOAX antics, Jared “Bolshevik Boy” Kushner is plotting to flood the USA with more mass legal immigration.

    • Replies: @densa
    A breakthrough on the hate hoax front is important, but agree that the coming deal on immigration is more important. Trump has completely cucked on immigration and is planning another corporate extravaganza similar to the tax cuts. They've convinced him that unemployment is so low that the only way to MAGA is to increase immigration. Maybe he'll get some Dem buy-in with amnesties. He has forgotten the Forgotten People he said he wouldn't forget.

    Increasing immigration to MAGA is an oxymoron. Immigrants not only displace American workers but also require more of everything. This is the broken window model of perpetually higher GDP via importing consumers. Just like debt, we can spend our way to prosperity. Of course our country will be trashed, but billionaires will be trillionaires, for the win.
  77. @Miro23

    Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.
     
    IOW they don't understand the race baiting concept ?? It's their stock in trade.

    IOW they don’t understand the race baiting concept ?? It’s their stock in trade.

    “It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It”

    Usually attributed to Upton Sinclair, but there are some older versions: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/

    This one from William Jennings Bryan in 1893 seems particularly appropriate for The Current Year:

    It is useless to argue with a man whose opinion is based upon a personal or pecuniary interest; the only way to deal with him is to outvote him.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
  78. How long until someone in Democratic field promises to pardon Jussie?!? I mean, in today’s environment, would they even have to give reasons?

    • Replies: @FPD72
    If elected, they could pardon Jussie for only the federal postal terrorism related charges. Presidents have no authority to grant pardons for state crimes.
  79. @Fabian Forge
    Exactly. From the get-go, the only valid reason to doubt that this incident was a hate hoax was its breathtaking stupidity as a hate hoax. And Fox's apparent hesitation to can his sorry ass is a testament to his stratospheric privilege and power. The prosecution's bond proffer at his hearing is a public document, the Daily Mail article has a link. You can read it, together with the judge's comments. God knows there is a lot wrong with the Chicago Police Department but they did a masterful job nailing this creep, from the detectives gathering a mountain of irrefutable, damning hard evidence to the top brass piously proclaiming his victim status well after they knew he was the perp, to cover the continuing work of the investigators. This felony false claim charge is just the tip of the state law iceberg of provable violations from the evidence. And the federal terrorism charge from the hate hoax letter is another slam dunk.

    If he doesn't drop this innocence act right now and start negotiating his plea, he is a moron and his lawyer is committing malpractice.

    God knows there is a lot wrong with the Chicago Police Department but they did a masterful job nailing this creep, from the detectives gathering a mountain of irrefutable, damning hard evidence to the top brass piously proclaiming his victim status well after they knew he was the perp, to cover the continuing work of the investigators.

    I would love to know the exact role of the top brass here. Were they in on in the plan or did they just make their usual pious proclamations until the evidence became too overwhelming to ignore? In particular, what messages was “Special Ed” sending down during the early stages?

    • Replies: @Blue Juice
    Depends which brass you're referring to. Our Superintendent "Special Ed" was trying to play both sides of the fence for sure. There was a lot of hand-wringing and petty bickering behind the scenes at headquarters. Most CPD brass really don't understand detective work and the subtle hand you have to have. Hell, they never thought that the co-conspirators would confess and even used the Nigerian brothers statement word for word at the last press conference (big mistake). No one knows for sure but Fat-Head Ed seemed deathly afraid this was all a hoax. I'm sure he's somewhat relieved that this is only a felony Disorderly Conduct charge. Most of the CPD brass are still hoping the local charges will get suspended and the Feds charge him with mail fraud or terrorism hoax charges but that looks unlikely. The detectives and SDSC police did a great job but this investigation is career suicide. BTW the department is investigating how so much of the investigation got leaked and heads are gonna roll. Without those leaks the press would have been left in the dark and the obvious hate crime hoax could have been swept under the rug. The brass are going to investigate and punish the leaks with way more enthusiasm than Jussie Smollett.
  80. Reports that Jussie being written out of Empire.

  81. I’ve dashed off a quick treatment of an “Empire” episode in which Smollett’s character is injured while filming a Subway commercial. Someone loaded a meatball footlong with live ammo. Then, then if that doesn’t win him support and a movement against this police frame-up – and it won’t – we go right to the reliable Elevator Shaft.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    But it's gotta be the unreliable elevator with men wearing MAGA hats removing its "Out of Order" sign. Then, a poor unsuspecting Jussie gets "shafted". Verisimilo-mo-tude.
  82. Ya know, this isn’t just racio-political scandal and legal trouhle. Jussie’s wacky caper was directly intended to defraud 20th Century Fox. You’d think they’d care a little about that aspect.

    But there are higher concerns. Or perhaps I should say stupider concerns.

  83. @Tyrion 2
    Why do people do stuff like this?

    Victimhood is a basket of currencies which fluctuate in relative value. Some, like black victimhood, are always strong. Others, like Christian victimhood, are almost always weak.

    Each currency's value is based on the public's perception of its purity, which is partly derived from real events of victimhood but also from manipulation, groupthink and PR.

    As with any asset class, once you hold enough, you are strongly incentivised to advocate for it. That is, you gain from establishing its purity - its grounding in real, heinous events. Jussie Smollett was attempting to do this, of course through dishonest means.

    The benefits are that victimhood, as a currency, may be exchanged for real money, through positive discrimination in job hiring, book deals or social deference, or even used as a "get out of jail free" card. The possibilities are broad and novel ways are being invented all of the time. Sometimes it is used just to punish and humiliate people you resent.

    Another interesting development, with the rise of social media, is that the currencies of group victimhood have greatly increased in value. For example, being "trans" is something that you can exchange for stuff - as long as you're willing to talk vaguely about oppression. On the other hand, simply being the victim of a crime has diminished in relative value.

    Perhaps this is partly a result of people's lives getting better? Fewer people have much individual victimhood currency so fewer people advocate for it. This runs counter to the laws of supply and demand, but then, so do all speculative asset prices.

    Or to put it all into a few simple formula:

    Group victimhood value = wrong historically done to individuals in group as filtered through public perception.

    Individual victimhood value = wrong done to specific individual as filtered through public perception.

    Individual's victimhood wealth = group victimhood value multiplied by (individual victimhood value + 1)

    It is the +1 that is the most recent development and has caused such a bull-run in group victimhood currencies.

    This means that a white Christian straight man who is robbed still gets no value. As they are multiplying the real crime by 0. Meanwhile, the gay, black-ish actor who staged a crime against themselves will still have some valuable currency.

    The future* is people endlessly hawking their own group victimhood currencies on social media and then using it to buy stuff they want. Inevitably, this will attract a lot of dishonest people and a huge number of hate hoaxes will be staged.

    The future is the Democratic 2020 Presidential primaries.

    How about someone starts a market for victimhood? I think it is time to short Jussie.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    I'll say one thing for Jussie. If I sat down and came up with a plan to make the public care and be aware of hate hoaxes, then I could not possibly have done it better.
  84. OT – new Israeli Foreign Minister gets off to a cracking start – “Poles suckle anti-semitism with their mothers’ milk“.

  85. @mama jama

    Well, he is a lifelong leftist.
     
    I was going to say, he DID vote for Obama.

    Sidenote: on viewing of his brother's twitter account, his brother is dumb as a cold rock, and supports Jussie with a "of mice and men" quality of devotion.

    I think this also reflects a far larger problem for black entrepreneurs and other successful blacks in the entertainment industry. The pathology of black culture is so deeply rooted, and even celebrated, that putting together an all black show like Empire or Cosby, and others to a lesser degree, and keeping it running is problematic because black folks can tend to implode, and take others with them, for the stupidest reasons imaginable.

    No-dad-having young black men, literally and figuratively swinging their bratty dick around because they think they can with impunity. They wind up in prison, divorce, destitution, and... wrecking TV shows. They can't take frustration. Don't want to suffer for anything worthwhile. No dad to tell them "no," or to finish the game. They're Nancy-boys with testosterone. Bitchy vain women who can punch you out.

    I just hope "blexit" gets some real political legs. It's their only hope.

    Nailed it!

  86. @Jack D
    Speaking of Berkeley, what ever happened to Pablo "They"?

    Speaking of Berkeley, what ever happened to Pablo “They”?

    The most recent thing I see is that he was supposed to have appeared in court two weeks ago: http://www.dailycal.org/2018/11/17/pablo-gomez-scheduled-to-re-appear-in-court-on-feb-8/

    So your question is very timely. I don’t see anything further though. As a lawyer, do you know how to check if this happened? The initial hearing was at http://www.alameda.courts.ca.gov/Pages.aspx/Oakland-Ren-C-Davidson-Courthouse

  87. The Nigerian bodybuilder brothers aspect is what makes it for me. Well, that and the idea of Trumpers wandering around that neighborhood in the dead of wintry night. Forget Empire; this should be its own movie.

    Like that Michael Bay joint Pain and Gain, except not a nightmare. It’s a comedy of errors structured like a heist movie.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
  88. Social Jussie Warbler

  89. @Reg Cæsar

    Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.
     
    What was so elaborate about it?

    Please elaborate...

    It had to be elaborated, in an expensive police investigation, over three weeks before the MSM understood what was clear to us right from the start.

  90. From The Blaze:

    According to a new statement from Empire star Jussie Smollett released Thursday, he is blaming a mayoral race in Chicago for the unfair treatment he says he is receiving from the Chicago police and law enforcement officials.

    “Today we witnessed an organized law enforcement spectacle that has no place in the American legal system,” the statement read.

  91. @Anon
    Lest we forget this blast from Chicago's hate crime past:

    'Is that what a life is worth?' Last of 4 defendants pleads guilty to recorded beating of teen with disability

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-facebook-live-hate-crime-20180712-story.html

    These were the four unwholesome looking black youths (with the now de rigeur chick member, thugness is not just for boys anymore) who kidnapped and tortured a disabled white kid and demanded a "three hundred dollar" ransom.

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-586ebc6f/turbine/ct-hate-crime-charges-in-facebook-live-attack-photos/700/700x394

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-facebook-live-hate-crime-20180712-story.html

    Well the hometown narrative on Jussie is https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/glanton/ct-met-dahleen-glanton-jussie-smollett-apology-20190221-story.html

    “All of you people who DARE doubt Jussie’s story are just bigots and should be ashamed of yourselves because white people do bad things too, as outlined here, here, and here haters!”

    I like the example the columnist pulled from Boston involving two brothers sentenced for a crime in 2015. No mention of the joys Diversity! and a separate set of brothers brought to Boston in April of 2013 that killed three and wounded hundreds of others. Because that would be bigoted.

  92. @Jack D
    Sure they would accept it if their other conditions are met. These would include some kind of large restitution for police time, "community service" and probably at least a token jail sentence (Jussie's lawyers will fight hard against the latter). They would also have to work out some kind of non-apology apology - "even though I was really attacked, I apologize for wasting everyone's time."

    Jussie's protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense ("if the ski mask don't fit you must acquit") but there's a black police chief denouncing him, a black judge, etc. and half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors. And it has been officially announced that Jussie did this for selfish reasons and not to help out the black race. As I have said before, they don't dare put him on the witness stand to peddle this bullshit and without his testimony, there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt - the brother's testimony, the paper and electronic trail, etc. But maybe he thinks that just by maintaining his innocence and THREATENING to go to trial that this will cow the prosecutors into a more favorable plea bargain - if he admitted guilt now then the prosecutors would have nothing left to lose. I am sure that the prosecutors want to make this go away for other reasons - the trial of Jussie is not the background music that they want for the Democratic primary season. But not so badly that they are going to let him go with only a slap on the wrist. From now until his plea bargain there is going to be a lot of Kabuki theater and leaks to the press as both sides posture and flex their muscles but ultimately they both want to make this go away.

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense

    That’s exactly what he’s thinking. Blacks believe whatever “so you’re telling me there’s a chance” theory of innocence promulgated by black defendants (O.J., Angela Davis, Chris Brown, Ray Lewis, “Tawana told the truth!”), seize on non sequiturs (Mark Fuhrman! Rodney King! Nooses on a tree!) and if all else fails insist he’s being treated unfairly by police and prosecutors because he’s black. O.J.’s white attorneys wanted him to take a deal but Cochran wisely ixnayed that idea when he was hired; he knew the mostly black jury guaranteed an acquittal or mistrial.

    That is, unless the defendant is perceived as an Uncle Tom. The Dems could see all the polls showing 90% of blacks believing in O.J.’s innocence were causing a significant problem with moderate whites and non-blacks, so they had all the black churches tell their congregations about an alleged O.J. quote where he’s supposed to have said “I’m not black; I’m O.J.” Cosby signed his legal death warrant when he aggressively criticized underclass black culture.

    Post-O.J., big-city prosecutors wised up about black jurors, so Jussie’s strategy is likely more directed at public opinion (Chicago is plurality black) — putting pressure on the D.A. to drop the charges or agree to a slap on the wrist, or else put his re-election at risk.

    half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors.

    Is this based on your experience or is it speculation? My impression as stated above is blacks of any description will always circle the wagons for any fellow (left-wing) black.

    • Replies: @guest
    I'm sure plenty of blacks saw O.J. as an Uncle Tom. He married a white girl, lived in Brentwood, hung out with white people, was in movies and t.v. commercials for white audiences, and so on. But the multi-generational race war being waged against the LAPD was too powerful. O.J. was a chance to get back at them for Rodney King, even if he wasn't the "blackest" defendant available.

    Also, black lady jurors did not sympathize with the victims.
    , @AnotherDad


    (Chicago is plurality black)
     
    Not any more. It's been gentrifying and Latinoizing. Roughly equal, but blacks are now--in these between census surveys--#3.

    Still it's true the defense lawyer just needs one--one true-believer dog-with-a-bone type.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Literally, in the case of the Cosby thing. The judge stated that Cosby's comments were the reason he released all the sealed records that ended up torpedoing him.
  93. I don’t think Mr. Sailer is being fair to the victim, Mr. Smollet.

    If one were to look hard enough, one would likely find he once had a family member who was a slave who was beaten and prolly even hanged.

    Mr. Smollet can not be guilty of this crime because he was raised by folks who are themselves the victims of America’s racist past and victimhood passes through the DNA of the sons and daughters of slaves like something or other passes through a water hose or one’s kidneys or something.

    Of that there can be no disagreement, only disparagement, denial, doubt, or double decker systematic disparity.

    Mr. Smollet is a victim of a racism that becomes ever more puissant the more it seems to disappear from the system itself. One imagines that racism is like a brick passing through the kidneys of America and, thus, easily identifiable and preventable.

    However, racism works more like Homeopathy which cures the illness in a person by convincing a person to consume remedies comprised of actually nothing more than water or ETOH arrived at via serial dilutions so that the greater the lack of something in the remedy consumed by the patient, the more puissant it actually is.

    This is the same form of racism that infected poor Mr. Smollet. Whereas formal racism, such as Jim Crow Laws, have been diluted to the point of non-existence, the memory of those laws in the American system act as a type of infection possessing the intellects of those whose progenitors were slaves.

    Far from being condemned, Mr. Smollet is to be congratulated for directing his anger inwardly towards his own self, rather than striking at the man.

    • Replies: @Ragno

    If one were to look hard enough, one would likely find he once had a family member who was a slave who was beaten and prolly even hanged.
     
    Yeah, but he was hanged first so it's inadmissable.
  94. Chicago Police Department Superintendent Eddie Johnson called his actions “despicable”

    Is that as bad as “deplorable”?

  95. They should have his character killed off by a couple of white supremacists.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  96. @Jack D
    Sure they would accept it if their other conditions are met. These would include some kind of large restitution for police time, "community service" and probably at least a token jail sentence (Jussie's lawyers will fight hard against the latter). They would also have to work out some kind of non-apology apology - "even though I was really attacked, I apologize for wasting everyone's time."

    Jussie's protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense ("if the ski mask don't fit you must acquit") but there's a black police chief denouncing him, a black judge, etc. and half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors. And it has been officially announced that Jussie did this for selfish reasons and not to help out the black race. As I have said before, they don't dare put him on the witness stand to peddle this bullshit and without his testimony, there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt - the brother's testimony, the paper and electronic trail, etc. But maybe he thinks that just by maintaining his innocence and THREATENING to go to trial that this will cow the prosecutors into a more favorable plea bargain - if he admitted guilt now then the prosecutors would have nothing left to lose. I am sure that the prosecutors want to make this go away for other reasons - the trial of Jussie is not the background music that they want for the Democratic primary season. But not so badly that they are going to let him go with only a slap on the wrist. From now until his plea bargain there is going to be a lot of Kabuki theater and leaks to the press as both sides posture and flex their muscles but ultimately they both want to make this go away.

    Yeah, his continued statements of innocence seem pretty nuts at this point, even taking into account some kind of hope that in a trial a mostly black jury won’t be likely to throw the book at him. A look over at the comments at The Root show that most people 100% believe he concocted this and are pretty fed up with his attempts to weasel out of responsibility.

    I am guessing his lawyers were going to try and work some kind of plea deal without jail time initially and he won’t shut up. I think Garagos now is going for an Alford plea, where he does not admit guilt but does concede the evidence is sufficient to convict him – that way he can keep claiming he is innocent but had to make an agreement because those wily CPD detectives worked with disgruntled extras to frame him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, his continued statements of innocence seem pretty nuts at this point...
     
    Or do they?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pmBC_CrQS4

  97. @snorlax

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense
     
    That's exactly what he's thinking. Blacks believe whatever "so you're telling me there's a chance" theory of innocence promulgated by black defendants (O.J., Angela Davis, Chris Brown, Ray Lewis, "Tawana told the truth!"), seize on non sequiturs (Mark Fuhrman! Rodney King! Nooses on a tree!) and if all else fails insist he's being treated unfairly by police and prosecutors because he's black. O.J.'s white attorneys wanted him to take a deal but Cochran wisely ixnayed that idea when he was hired; he knew the mostly black jury guaranteed an acquittal or mistrial.

    That is, unless the defendant is perceived as an Uncle Tom. The Dems could see all the polls showing 90% of blacks believing in O.J.'s innocence were causing a significant problem with moderate whites and non-blacks, so they had all the black churches tell their congregations about an alleged O.J. quote where he's supposed to have said "I'm not black; I'm O.J." Cosby signed his legal death warrant when he aggressively criticized underclass black culture.

    Post-O.J., big-city prosecutors wised up about black jurors, so Jussie's strategy is likely more directed at public opinion (Chicago is plurality black) — putting pressure on the D.A. to drop the charges or agree to a slap on the wrist, or else put his re-election at risk.

    half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors.
     
    Is this based on your experience or is it speculation? My impression as stated above is blacks of any description will always circle the wagons for any fellow (left-wing) black.

    I’m sure plenty of blacks saw O.J. as an Uncle Tom. He married a white girl, lived in Brentwood, hung out with white people, was in movies and t.v. commercials for white audiences, and so on. But the multi-generational race war being waged against the LAPD was too powerful. O.J. was a chance to get back at them for Rodney King, even if he wasn’t the “blackest” defendant available.

    Also, black lady jurors did not sympathize with the victims.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Nah, where da white wimmen at, having a sweet crib in a fancy neighborhood and hanging out with celebrities is exactly the lifestyle black men aspire to. Black women wouldn't have liked his marrying a white woman, but divorcing then not-murdering her was a good down payment on equity.
    , @Anon
    Black women hate White women.

    That’s all.
    , @Arclight
    I believe I read that a jury consultant told the prosecution that black female jurors would be the most hostile to their case because they don't like pretty white women dating black men...but Marcia Clark thought they would sympathize with her because of the domestic violence angle. Whoops.
  98. @res

    God knows there is a lot wrong with the Chicago Police Department but they did a masterful job nailing this creep, from the detectives gathering a mountain of irrefutable, damning hard evidence to the top brass piously proclaiming his victim status well after they knew he was the perp, to cover the continuing work of the investigators.
     
    I would love to know the exact role of the top brass here. Were they in on in the plan or did they just make their usual pious proclamations until the evidence became too overwhelming to ignore? In particular, what messages was "Special Ed" sending down during the early stages?

    Depends which brass you’re referring to. Our Superintendent “Special Ed” was trying to play both sides of the fence for sure. There was a lot of hand-wringing and petty bickering behind the scenes at headquarters. Most CPD brass really don’t understand detective work and the subtle hand you have to have. Hell, they never thought that the co-conspirators would confess and even used the Nigerian brothers statement word for word at the last press conference (big mistake). No one knows for sure but Fat-Head Ed seemed deathly afraid this was all a hoax. I’m sure he’s somewhat relieved that this is only a felony Disorderly Conduct charge. Most of the CPD brass are still hoping the local charges will get suspended and the Feds charge him with mail fraud or terrorism hoax charges but that looks unlikely. The detectives and SDSC police did a great job but this investigation is career suicide. BTW the department is investigating how so much of the investigation got leaked and heads are gonna roll. Without those leaks the press would have been left in the dark and the obvious hate crime hoax could have been swept under the rug. The brass are going to investigate and punish the leaks with way more enthusiasm than Jussie Smollett.

    • Replies: @res
    Thanks! Lots of insights there. I am interested in any further thoughts (or pointers to other sites like Second City Cop) you might have as this case continues.

    How much of a disconnect is there between "Special Ed" and a level or two down? I assume at those levels it is all politicians, but do they all have the same views?
    , @Joe, Averaged
    Why are fed charges unlikely?
    , @Johann Ricke
    Re the Rogers Park killer, who gunned down two white men seemingly at random without taking their belongings, he now has his own Wikipedia entry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Walk_Killer
  99. • Replies: @Jack D
    Not anymore he don't and it's been what, a day since he was arrested? Patience, patience people.
  100. @Svigor
    I can't wait to see how many mainstream celebs express outrage at Smollett's hate crime, now that the roles have been reversed, and he's revealed as the perp, and whites are revealed as the victim.

    Just kidding. Everyone knows the answer is none.

    Just as very few of those accused of alleged MeToo misconduct were charged with any crimes, yet had their lives and careers destroyed by years-old accusations, with hardly a pause to consider fairness.

    Meanwhile, Smollett has been charged with a felony based on corroborating evidence, and his employer is considering options.

    Is there any employment situation where an arrest, much less a felony, doesn’t result in immediate suspension (even if with pay)…

  101. @Colin Wright
    '...Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.'

    He is black. One noticeable tendency among blacks is a shaky relationship with the truth. You just cannot take anything they say seriously.

    Half. The other half is Jewish. They’re kinda known for the same thing, though.

  102. CNBC now reporting Smollett is being written out of the last two episodes of the season. Everything else has been filmed so far.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/22/twentieth-century-fox-television-says-it-is-removing-jussie-smolletts-character-from-final-two-episodes-of-empire.html

  103. Laughing.

    I am once again delighted never to have heard the gentleman or the show in question until this article.

    And their introduction had impact — nil, on my views.

  104. anonymous[616] • Disclaimer says:

    He continues to have supporters who believe his protestations of innocence no matter what. Amazing the depth of true belief we have in our country. Years from now there’ll be attempts to revise history and make him out to actually having been a victim. He’ll become a part of American racial history lore alongside St Till and others.

  105. Off Topic:

    Time’s Up president Lisa Borders stepped down after allegations of sexual assault were made against her son, the group has announced.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/22/times-chief-resigns-assault-allegation-against-son/

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    Is that Lisa "Open" Borders?
  106. OT

    The BBC’s Mark “London-white-flight-is-win-win” Easton does a masterful job of avoiding the issue in today’s UK Muslim rape scandal.

    Analysis
    By BBC Home Editor Mark Easton

    Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale, Derby, Banbury, Telford, Peterborough, Aylesbury, Bristol, Halifax, Keighley, Newcastle… now Huddersfield. The list seems endless… and there will almost certainly be more.
    The sexual abuse of vulnerable children in English towns by groups of men, often from immigrant communities, is an incarnation of a wider scandal that is dominating our news and overwhelming our police and our courts.
    It is a crime that until recently was rarely discussed in public. Child sexual abuse was often ignored or covered up: the protection of institutional reputation or community cohesion put before the protection of children.
    The grooming gangs of provincial England tend to operate where the disinfectant of public scrutiny struggles to reach – poorer neighbourhoods on the edge of town, around the mini-cab ranks and fast food joints, the twilight zones of urban life.
    Child abuse thrives in such dark corners, where people look the other way, not asking questions or following concerns because the subject matter is uncomfortable and scrutiny is potentially damaging. But when we look, we find.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-45918845

  107. Max Boot and William Kristol lied and cheated to get US into war in Middle East for Israel. They are still working.

    Jewish-controlled media treat white conservatives like Palestinians are treated by Zionists.
    So, why are white conservatives the biggest supporters of Zionist imperialism?

    • Replies: @snorlax
    You know David Harsanyi is Jewish right?
  108. Even with his mounting legal troubles, Smollett has big pockets of support within Fox and there was hope as late as Wednesday that he would be able to finish out his work on the series.

    Ok, we can safely blue-checkmark Fox execs people who hate flyover country white people.

    Man, I wish there was even a fragment of this nation ready to split off and just get the hell away from these people.

    ~~~

    BTW, $60,000 an episode? For this stupid turd?

    Every Fox shareholder should be outraged. Can’t you walk into any restaurant in Hollywood and find at least one gay black “actor” waiting tables who’d just love to be on Empire and would be absolutely thrilled to do it for $5000 a week.

  109. Guess who is reinforcing stereotypes. She likes to climb things.

    Old Black Narrative: “White man, you dragged us here by force, cutting us from our roots”

    New Black Narrative: “White man, drag our ass to your white-ass nations so we can get the gibs.”

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    If I was a racist I would make some comment about chimpanzees ...
    , @R.G.Camara
    Trump can't even deport her. What a failure.

    So much hope, so much fail.
  110. @snorlax

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense
     
    That's exactly what he's thinking. Blacks believe whatever "so you're telling me there's a chance" theory of innocence promulgated by black defendants (O.J., Angela Davis, Chris Brown, Ray Lewis, "Tawana told the truth!"), seize on non sequiturs (Mark Fuhrman! Rodney King! Nooses on a tree!) and if all else fails insist he's being treated unfairly by police and prosecutors because he's black. O.J.'s white attorneys wanted him to take a deal but Cochran wisely ixnayed that idea when he was hired; he knew the mostly black jury guaranteed an acquittal or mistrial.

    That is, unless the defendant is perceived as an Uncle Tom. The Dems could see all the polls showing 90% of blacks believing in O.J.'s innocence were causing a significant problem with moderate whites and non-blacks, so they had all the black churches tell their congregations about an alleged O.J. quote where he's supposed to have said "I'm not black; I'm O.J." Cosby signed his legal death warrant when he aggressively criticized underclass black culture.

    Post-O.J., big-city prosecutors wised up about black jurors, so Jussie's strategy is likely more directed at public opinion (Chicago is plurality black) — putting pressure on the D.A. to drop the charges or agree to a slap on the wrist, or else put his re-election at risk.

    half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors.
     
    Is this based on your experience or is it speculation? My impression as stated above is blacks of any description will always circle the wagons for any fellow (left-wing) black.

    (Chicago is plurality black)

    Not any more. It’s been gentrifying and Latinoizing. Roughly equal, but blacks are now–in these between census surveys–#3.

    Still it’s true the defense lawyer just needs one–one true-believer dog-with-a-bone type.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    The latest figures show blacks pulling back ahead of Hispanics. They're still by far the most politically influential group since they vote as a bloc.

    Still it’s true the defense lawyer just needs one–one true-believer dog-with-a-bone type.
     
    They'd need at least a significant minority of the jury; most blacks aren't particularly patient nor given to altruism so they won't hold out for long without backup. This is why it's still possible to convict black defendants.
  111. My bing news feed now has a little box saying “suspended from the show”. Someone wised up.

    ~~~
    Seems to me all TV shows should always shoot some driving–distracted, panicked look–shots with each regular, so they can quickly “have an accident” and be cut if they become a pain in the ass.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    When one of the main characters on Downton Abbey wanted to leave the show, they ended an episode with him driving down a country road, rounding a curve, and slamming into a hay wagon.
    , @R.G.Camara
    Not that I ever watched the show, but Babylon 5 apparently did just that. The creator made sure that he had a "trap door" to drop each character into should the actor leave the show or have to be written out. The creator was all about the show being a "novel for television" and didn't want to get hung up if one actor couldn't stay the course.Apparently, the show used these trap doors a few times and didn't have any continuity issues.
  112. @res
    How about someone starts a market for victimhood? I think it is time to short Jussie.

    I’ll say one thing for Jussie. If I sat down and came up with a plan to make the public care and be aware of hate hoaxes, then I could not possibly have done it better.

  113. @AnotherDad


    (Chicago is plurality black)
     
    Not any more. It's been gentrifying and Latinoizing. Roughly equal, but blacks are now--in these between census surveys--#3.

    Still it's true the defense lawyer just needs one--one true-believer dog-with-a-bone type.

    The latest figures show blacks pulling back ahead of Hispanics. They’re still by far the most politically influential group since they vote as a bloc.

    Still it’s true the defense lawyer just needs one–one true-believer dog-with-a-bone type.

    They’d need at least a significant minority of the jury; most blacks aren’t particularly patient nor given to altruism so they won’t hold out for long without backup. This is why it’s still possible to convict black defendants.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    Yeah you get one white male autiste and he can swing a whole jury full of blacks.
  114. I’ve sent Fox the outline for a new show, Drama Queen.

  115. https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/jussie-smollett-suspended-empire-false-police-report-arrest-1203144817/

    Smollett’s been memory-holed by Fox. They’ve removed him from the final two episodes of the season.

  116. @snorlax
    The latest figures show blacks pulling back ahead of Hispanics. They're still by far the most politically influential group since they vote as a bloc.

    Still it’s true the defense lawyer just needs one–one true-believer dog-with-a-bone type.
     
    They'd need at least a significant minority of the jury; most blacks aren't particularly patient nor given to altruism so they won't hold out for long without backup. This is why it's still possible to convict black defendants.

    Yeah you get one white male autiste and he can swing a whole jury full of blacks.

  117. There are reports that he has been 86’d from the show so…am confused as to his status.

  118. I’m seeing a lot of confusion about how someone could possibly keep telling such bald-faced lies when all has been found out.

    I’d like to remind those people that things like a sense of shame, consistency, and a preference for reality over your own feelings are weird historical exceptions. They lived among a small percentage of upper- and middle class white men during the last two centuries. That’s it.

    Everybody else just knows that voluntarily handicapping yourself is…voluntarily handicapping yourself.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Last night I saw a documentary about Nero and the historical accounts that have come down to us from the Roman "historians". They were able to debunk certain parts of the history as being physically impossible - the historians said that Nero had poisoned he brother by putting a colorless, tasteless, instant acting poison in his water, but no such poison existed in antiquity. They said that he had gotten rid of his mother by having a trap door open up in the bottom of her ship, but that's impossible without sinking the ship. Etc. They said that Roman audiences didn't really expect history books to be literally true - the were a form of entertainment, like we don't expect "based on a true event" movies to be true in every detail. The important thing was the "greater truth" that Nero was a bad guy (just like MAGA guys are) so whether the particular events used to illustrate his badness actually happened or not was not really important to the audience.

    It seems like we are moving back toward that traditional relationship with the truth - "emotional truth" (like the way Dr. Professor Blasey Ford and the cat ladies of America felt about Judge Kavanaugh) is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc.

    So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    Plus he has the emotional maturity of a four year old who will deny that he got into the cookie jar even if he is holding a half eaten cookie in his hand.
  119. Jussie Smollett, and the strange alchemy of egalitarian despotism

    The less hate there is in the Untied States, the more hate crimes must be manufactured in order to keep the Fraternal Order of Victims afloat

  120. @Mr McKenna
    In other gay/3rd-world/jewish news, my calcs indicate that 40% of iSteve readership can translate the Writing on the Wall:

    https://i1.mail.com/mcom/794/9020794%2Cpd=1%2Cf=teaser-card-xl/elad-dvash-banks-andrew-dvash-banks-ethan-dvash-ba.jpg


    Judge grants citizenship to twin son of gay couple

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A federal judge in California ruled Thursday that a twin son of a gay married couple has been an American citizen since birth, handing a defeat to the U.S. government, which had only granted the status to his brother.

    https://apnews.com/065ce98fe6544f6e86d323a3cba9307d

    Andrew Dvash-Banks was studying in Israel when he met his future husband, Elad, an Israeli citizen. Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel, they moved to Canada, where they wed in 2010. The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    So..... American Citizens! Unbelievably tricky story.

    The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    The real handmaid’s tale is the globo-homo libertarianization of bodies. Just pay a woman and hire her womb to create children for freako ‘gay couples’. Everything for sale. It is not religion and tradition that turns humans into properties. It is libertarianism and degeneracy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    libertarianization
     
    Pseudolibertarianization.

    Valid libertarian analysis counters both force and fraud. Third-party reproduction is a nasty cocktail of both, and is properly addressed by statute law.

    Be very suspicious of arguments that look libertarian on the surface-- abortion and immigration are classic ones, marriage the ultimate one. Nineteenth-century Spain was more libertarian than the modern West on marriage-- it was entirely a matter for the Church, not the state.

    You'll find that the proponents are not "pro-choice" on anything else. They tell you lesbians should be able to shop from seed catalogues, but you have no right to turn down their wedding business. Samuel Francis called this anarcho-tyranny.

    As for abortion, if you want to tell us that Nancy Pelosi is more of a libertarian than Ron Paul, have at it.
  121. Anyway, I’d say: Let Jussie stay on the show, but he has to act out his entire moronic hate hoax exactly as it happened as a six story arc, with the Nigerian bodybuilder brothers playing their roles too. I’d watch that.

    LOL! I would, too. Think of the ratings!

  122. @AnotherDad
    My bing news feed now has a little box saying "suspended from the show". Someone wised up.

    ~~~
    Seems to me all TV shows should always shoot some driving--distracted, panicked look--shots with each regular, so they can quickly "have an accident" and be cut if they become a pain in the ass.

    When one of the main characters on Downton Abbey wanted to leave the show, they ended an episode with him driving down a country road, rounding a curve, and slamming into a hay wagon.

    • Replies: @donut
    This was a good exit for a despised character :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj8FIbuoWPY
    , @Reg Cæsar
    In a twist on this, Ballykissangel ended with the pub owner being electrocuted when working on her own wiring. It had been long-established that she was a competent electrician, not prone to beginner's mistakes, and the missus thought this was a particularly wacky ending.

    Then I surmised that, as she and the local priest had the makings of a crush on one another, perhaps it was deliberate, or more likely unconscious, suicide. "Aha!" Now it makes sense. Especially when you consider the Church's teaching that suicide is a one-way ticket to Hell. But not if it's an accident.
    , @JMcG
    Lawrence of Arabia was on Downton Abbey?
  123. @Jack D
    Sure they would accept it if their other conditions are met. These would include some kind of large restitution for police time, "community service" and probably at least a token jail sentence (Jussie's lawyers will fight hard against the latter). They would also have to work out some kind of non-apology apology - "even though I was really attacked, I apologize for wasting everyone's time."

    Jussie's protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense ("if the ski mask don't fit you must acquit") but there's a black police chief denouncing him, a black judge, etc. and half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors. And it has been officially announced that Jussie did this for selfish reasons and not to help out the black race. As I have said before, they don't dare put him on the witness stand to peddle this bullshit and without his testimony, there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt - the brother's testimony, the paper and electronic trail, etc. But maybe he thinks that just by maintaining his innocence and THREATENING to go to trial that this will cow the prosecutors into a more favorable plea bargain - if he admitted guilt now then the prosecutors would have nothing left to lose. I am sure that the prosecutors want to make this go away for other reasons - the trial of Jussie is not the background music that they want for the Democratic primary season. But not so badly that they are going to let him go with only a slap on the wrist. From now until his plea bargain there is going to be a lot of Kabuki theater and leaks to the press as both sides posture and flex their muscles but ultimately they both want to make this go away.

    The state shouldn’t offer him any kind of deal , a slap on the wrist is only going to signal that this kind of thing is okay .

    • Replies: @res

    a slap on the wrist is only going to signal that this kind of thing is okay.
     
    That would be a feature, not a bug.
  124. @Jack D
    Apparently they are almost done filming the season and would like to get it in the can. Having to write Jussie out now on short notice would be problematic. By the time they film the next season it will be clearer if Jussie is unavailable due to being in jail or is an official pariah, in which case they can just write his character out of the plot ("Jussie has moved to Wakanda") or if by some miracle he manages to maintain his credibility they can go on as if nothing happened, and in the meantime they are not seen as being mean to a gay person of color.

    (“Jussie has moved to Wakanda”) . That’s funny at first glance but I think you should contact the producers with that idea . If Jussie is unavailable for the next season they can do a spin off . The only draw back is that in Africa a black faggot like Hussie will get some real hate laid on his ass .

  125. @Asagirian
    Max Boot and William Kristol lied and cheated to get US into war in Middle East for Israel. They are still working.

    Jewish-controlled media treat white conservatives like Palestinians are treated by Zionists.
    So, why are white conservatives the biggest supporters of Zionist imperialism?

    https://twitter.com/davidharsanyi/status/1098932366674980865

    You know David Harsanyi is Jewish right?

  126. @Blue Juice
    Depends which brass you're referring to. Our Superintendent "Special Ed" was trying to play both sides of the fence for sure. There was a lot of hand-wringing and petty bickering behind the scenes at headquarters. Most CPD brass really don't understand detective work and the subtle hand you have to have. Hell, they never thought that the co-conspirators would confess and even used the Nigerian brothers statement word for word at the last press conference (big mistake). No one knows for sure but Fat-Head Ed seemed deathly afraid this was all a hoax. I'm sure he's somewhat relieved that this is only a felony Disorderly Conduct charge. Most of the CPD brass are still hoping the local charges will get suspended and the Feds charge him with mail fraud or terrorism hoax charges but that looks unlikely. The detectives and SDSC police did a great job but this investigation is career suicide. BTW the department is investigating how so much of the investigation got leaked and heads are gonna roll. Without those leaks the press would have been left in the dark and the obvious hate crime hoax could have been swept under the rug. The brass are going to investigate and punish the leaks with way more enthusiasm than Jussie Smollett.

    Thanks! Lots of insights there. I am interested in any further thoughts (or pointers to other sites like Second City Cop) you might have as this case continues.

    How much of a disconnect is there between “Special Ed” and a level or two down? I assume at those levels it is all politicians, but do they all have the same views?

    • Replies: @Blue Juice
    The disconnect between the Fat-Head Ed and the other bosses is not that large. They know what keeps the Superintendent happy and he is (and always has been) a stooge for the mayor in Chicago. The disconnect between the Superintendent and the actual cops, sergeants and detectives on the street is huge. The bosses at HQ don't (and never will) wear body cameras while on duty. Can you imagine what may come out in recorded meetings...especially with the state's attorney and mayor? (Now that would be transparency!)
    And yes...it's safe to assume that to get beyond the rank of sergeant in the CPD you need to be a political lackey. It's pathetic, unethical and totally destructive. The CPD is too top-heavy yet being held together by duct tape and chicken-wire at this point. And as most people here assume, the CPD brass were not in on the Juicy Fruit investigation and most hoped it would just go away. They assumed there was at least some truth to his ridiculous story but once the two brothers confessed our hands were forced and a criminal indictment for Jussie could not be ignored or buried. It's strange but instead of feeling redeemed or triumphant the CPD I know involved in this case are now nervous and anxious. This story is far from over...
  127. @guest
    I'm sure plenty of blacks saw O.J. as an Uncle Tom. He married a white girl, lived in Brentwood, hung out with white people, was in movies and t.v. commercials for white audiences, and so on. But the multi-generational race war being waged against the LAPD was too powerful. O.J. was a chance to get back at them for Rodney King, even if he wasn't the "blackest" defendant available.

    Also, black lady jurors did not sympathize with the victims.

    Nah, where da white wimmen at, having a sweet crib in a fancy neighborhood and hanging out with celebrities is exactly the lifestyle black men aspire to. Black women wouldn’t have liked his marrying a white woman, but divorcing then not-murdering her was a good down payment on equity.

  128. @Tyrion 2
    Why do people do stuff like this?

    Victimhood is a basket of currencies which fluctuate in relative value. Some, like black victimhood, are always strong. Others, like Christian victimhood, are almost always weak.

    Each currency's value is based on the public's perception of its purity, which is partly derived from real events of victimhood but also from manipulation, groupthink and PR.

    As with any asset class, once you hold enough, you are strongly incentivised to advocate for it. That is, you gain from establishing its purity - its grounding in real, heinous events. Jussie Smollett was attempting to do this, of course through dishonest means.

    The benefits are that victimhood, as a currency, may be exchanged for real money, through positive discrimination in job hiring, book deals or social deference, or even used as a "get out of jail free" card. The possibilities are broad and novel ways are being invented all of the time. Sometimes it is used just to punish and humiliate people you resent.

    Another interesting development, with the rise of social media, is that the currencies of group victimhood have greatly increased in value. For example, being "trans" is something that you can exchange for stuff - as long as you're willing to talk vaguely about oppression. On the other hand, simply being the victim of a crime has diminished in relative value.

    Perhaps this is partly a result of people's lives getting better? Fewer people have much individual victimhood currency so fewer people advocate for it. This runs counter to the laws of supply and demand, but then, so do all speculative asset prices.

    Or to put it all into a few simple formula:

    Group victimhood value = wrong historically done to individuals in group as filtered through public perception.

    Individual victimhood value = wrong done to specific individual as filtered through public perception.

    Individual's victimhood wealth = group victimhood value multiplied by (individual victimhood value + 1)

    It is the +1 that is the most recent development and has caused such a bull-run in group victimhood currencies.

    This means that a white Christian straight man who is robbed still gets no value. As they are multiplying the real crime by 0. Meanwhile, the gay, black-ish actor who staged a crime against themselves will still have some valuable currency.

    The future* is people endlessly hawking their own group victimhood currencies on social media and then using it to buy stuff they want. Inevitably, this will attract a lot of dishonest people and a huge number of hate hoaxes will be staged.

    The future is the Democratic 2020 Presidential primaries.

    This is to do with the ‘blank slate’. In the old days, people thought losers were born not made, and apportioned their sympathy accordingly.

  129. @Anonymous

    No-dad-having young black men, literally and figuratively swinging their bratty dick around because they think they can with impunity.
     
    Smullett had a dad around though, didn't he?

    Yes, but his dad was a nice Jewish boy.

  130. @Anon
    Guess who is reinforcing stereotypes. She likes to climb things.

    Old Black Narrative: "White man, you dragged us here by force, cutting us from our roots"

    New Black Narrative: "White man, drag our ass to your white-ass nations so we can get the gibs."

    https://twitter.com/JxhnBinder/status/1098761446643695617

    If I was a racist I would make some comment about chimpanzees …

  131. @Harry Baldwin
    When one of the main characters on Downton Abbey wanted to leave the show, they ended an episode with him driving down a country road, rounding a curve, and slamming into a hay wagon.

    This was a good exit for a despised character :

  132. OT: The designer of the Israeli Wall says critics who say walls don’t work don’t know what they are talking about. From Fox News: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6005702978001/#sp=show-clips

  133. @Fabian Forge
    "That's MY game, Juicy! Back off!"

    You no go here Mugu Guyman

  134. @Reg Cæsar

    It appears he’s a lifelong narcissist as well.
     
    Wouldn't being black and queer square that trait? Jewish... that could go either way.

    You neglected to to mention his cosmic levels of chutzpah — news reports say he feels “betrayed” by the world’s reaction to his scam — which I think we can credit to his daddy’s DNA contribution.

  135. @Fabian Forge
    Exactly. From the get-go, the only valid reason to doubt that this incident was a hate hoax was its breathtaking stupidity as a hate hoax. And Fox's apparent hesitation to can his sorry ass is a testament to his stratospheric privilege and power. The prosecution's bond proffer at his hearing is a public document, the Daily Mail article has a link. You can read it, together with the judge's comments. God knows there is a lot wrong with the Chicago Police Department but they did a masterful job nailing this creep, from the detectives gathering a mountain of irrefutable, damning hard evidence to the top brass piously proclaiming his victim status well after they knew he was the perp, to cover the continuing work of the investigators. This felony false claim charge is just the tip of the state law iceberg of provable violations from the evidence. And the federal terrorism charge from the hate hoax letter is another slam dunk.

    If he doesn't drop this innocence act right now and start negotiating his plea, he is a moron and his lawyer is committing malpractice.

    This felony false claim charge is just the tip of the state law iceberg of provable violations from the evidence. And the federal terrorism charge from the hate hoax letter is another slam dunk.

    The original hate crime charge should be thrown at him as well. Once we start treating hate hoaxes as hate crimes in themselves will we see some progress in this area.

  136. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna
    In other gay/3rd-world/jewish news, my calcs indicate that 40% of iSteve readership can translate the Writing on the Wall:

    https://i1.mail.com/mcom/794/9020794%2Cpd=1%2Cf=teaser-card-xl/elad-dvash-banks-andrew-dvash-banks-ethan-dvash-ba.jpg


    Judge grants citizenship to twin son of gay couple

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A federal judge in California ruled Thursday that a twin son of a gay married couple has been an American citizen since birth, handing a defeat to the U.S. government, which had only granted the status to his brother.

    https://apnews.com/065ce98fe6544f6e86d323a3cba9307d

    Andrew Dvash-Banks was studying in Israel when he met his future husband, Elad, an Israeli citizen. Because they couldn’t marry at the time in the U.S. or in Israel, they moved to Canada, where they wed in 2010. The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    So..... American Citizens! Unbelievably tricky story.

    I remember that The LASlimes rejoiced. I didn’t see it in the Los Angeles Jewish journal. The Jewish journal tries to appeal to all the jews not just the lunatic left. Some of the orthodox Rabbis know the injunction against gays is in the Jewish, not Christian part of the Bible.

  137. @kihowi
    I'm seeing a lot of confusion about how someone could possibly keep telling such bald-faced lies when all has been found out.

    I'd like to remind those people that things like a sense of shame, consistency, and a preference for reality over your own feelings are weird historical exceptions. They lived among a small percentage of upper- and middle class white men during the last two centuries. That's it.

    Everybody else just knows that voluntarily handicapping yourself is...voluntarily handicapping yourself.

    Last night I saw a documentary about Nero and the historical accounts that have come down to us from the Roman “historians”. They were able to debunk certain parts of the history as being physically impossible – the historians said that Nero had poisoned he brother by putting a colorless, tasteless, instant acting poison in his water, but no such poison existed in antiquity. They said that he had gotten rid of his mother by having a trap door open up in the bottom of her ship, but that’s impossible without sinking the ship. Etc. They said that Roman audiences didn’t really expect history books to be literally true – the were a form of entertainment, like we don’t expect “based on a true event” movies to be true in every detail. The important thing was the “greater truth” that Nero was a bad guy (just like MAGA guys are) so whether the particular events used to illustrate his badness actually happened or not was not really important to the audience.

    It seems like we are moving back toward that traditional relationship with the truth – “emotional truth” (like the way Dr. Professor Blasey Ford and the cat ladies of America felt about Judge Kavanaugh) is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc.

    So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    Plus he has the emotional maturity of a four year old who will deny that he got into the cookie jar even if he is holding a half eaten cookie in his hand.

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @utu
    Blacks are using well tested and successful templates used by Jews.

    Ruth Madoff was heard on surveillance tape blaming anti-Semites for her husband's problems.

    Haaretz had the following title: "The Madoff Betrayal: Life Imitates anti-Semitism" in 2008.
    , @Steve Sailer
    A lot of the fun details from Greek and Roman history strike me as sounding like political slanders.

    I looked up what is known about Pericles' girlfriend, for example, and it was a pretty random collection of denunciations and praise. I don't think we have any single document about her, just passing references to her in stuff about other people, and the references to her are highly contradictory.

    , @ic1000
    > ... “emotional truth” is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc. So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    My podcast app froze up yesterday, so I spent the final 2 1/2 hours of my drive listening to NPR. I could link to the shows (“Studio 54”? “Here And Now”?) but I won’t bother unless asked, since you can easily pick your own. At any rate, various parties offered various hand wringy interpretations, until one one interviewee hit the mark. This guy is a Disinguished Award Winning Black Gay Critic of something something for a Prestige Press organ, and he spat nails at CPD commissioner Special Ed for calling out Jussie. Because black men such as himself are under constant attack in America, so whether that particular attack did or didn’t occur is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    If that sounds familiar.

    The nice progressive host guy fell over himself agreeing with the astute analysis of his guest, good thing he can be so well compensated by the taxpayers to bring these truths to the flyovers.

    What this country needs is, I dunno, a conversation about race.

    , @Clyde
    Want to lay it on that you have something there with emotioal truth. Something that we all here kind of know already.
    For me the pioneer was Rigoberta Menchu (fugly by the way) who got a Nobel Prize 1992 (putting one over on YT as in willfully stupid Scandis) for her dreamy lies of what went on in her home of some Central American (Trump interlude) shithole. She was spared by leftist intelligentsia and media due to being indigenous or some percentage thereof.
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    More than a decade after the publication of I, Rigoberta Menchú, anthropologist David Stoll investigated Menchú's story, researching government documents, reports, and land claims (many filed by Menchú's own family), and interviewing former neighbors, locals, friends, enemies, and others for his 1999 book Rigoberta Menchú and the Story of All Poor Guatemalans.

    Stoll claimed Menchú changed some elements of her life, family and village to meet the publicity needs of the guerrilla movement, which she joined as a political comadre after her parents were assassinated. The controversy caused by Stoll's book received widespread coverage in the US press of the time.
    Historian Greg Grandin claims Stoll's research on the Guatemalan revolution is mostly wrong, but states that "two of Stoll's charges concerning Menchú's life do have merit".

    First, he documents that she received some education, contradicting a claim that her father refused to send her to school because he did not want her to lose her cultural identity. Second, Stoll presents evidence that Menchú falsely placed herself at the scene of her 16-year-old brother's murder. According to Grandin, Stoll in a later interview agreed to the "essential factuality of Menchú's account of how her brother and mother died".


    In her own critique of Stoll's work, titled The Silencing of Maya Women from Mama Maquin to Rigoberta Menchu, anthropologist Victoria Sanford highlights inaccuracies in Stoll's book, and claims that he used highly questionable sources as research informants.

    The Nobel Committee dismissed calls to revoke her Nobel Prize, rejecting the claims of falsification by Stoll. Geir Lundestad, the secretary of the Committee, said her prize "was not based exclusively or primarily on the autobiography". According to the Nobel Committee,"Stoll approves of her Nobel prize and has no question about the picture of army atrocities which she presents. He says that her purpose in tel…


     

  138. @res
    Thanks! Lots of insights there. I am interested in any further thoughts (or pointers to other sites like Second City Cop) you might have as this case continues.

    How much of a disconnect is there between "Special Ed" and a level or two down? I assume at those levels it is all politicians, but do they all have the same views?

    The disconnect between the Fat-Head Ed and the other bosses is not that large. They know what keeps the Superintendent happy and he is (and always has been) a stooge for the mayor in Chicago. The disconnect between the Superintendent and the actual cops, sergeants and detectives on the street is huge. The bosses at HQ don’t (and never will) wear body cameras while on duty. Can you imagine what may come out in recorded meetings…especially with the state’s attorney and mayor? (Now that would be transparency!)
    And yes…it’s safe to assume that to get beyond the rank of sergeant in the CPD you need to be a political lackey. It’s pathetic, unethical and totally destructive. The CPD is too top-heavy yet being held together by duct tape and chicken-wire at this point. And as most people here assume, the CPD brass were not in on the Juicy Fruit investigation and most hoped it would just go away. They assumed there was at least some truth to his ridiculous story but once the two brothers confessed our hands were forced and a criminal indictment for Jussie could not be ignored or buried. It’s strange but instead of feeling redeemed or triumphant the CPD I know involved in this case are now nervous and anxious. This story is far from over…

  139. @Asagirian
    The children were born by a surrogate in September 2016.

    The real handmaid's tale is the globo-homo libertarianization of bodies. Just pay a woman and hire her womb to create children for freako 'gay couples'. Everything for sale. It is not religion and tradition that turns humans into properties. It is libertarianism and degeneracy.

    libertarianization

    Pseudolibertarianization.

    Valid libertarian analysis counters both force and fraud. Third-party reproduction is a nasty cocktail of both, and is properly addressed by statute law.

    Be very suspicious of arguments that look libertarian on the surface– abortion and immigration are classic ones, marriage the ultimate one. Nineteenth-century Spain was more libertarian than the modern West on marriage– it was entirely a matter for the Church, not the state.

    You’ll find that the proponents are not “pro-choice” on anything else. They tell you lesbians should be able to shop from seed catalogues, but you have no right to turn down their wedding business. Samuel Francis called this anarcho-tyranny.

    As for abortion, if you want to tell us that Nancy Pelosi is more of a libertarian than Ron Paul, have at it.

  140. @guest
    I'm sure plenty of blacks saw O.J. as an Uncle Tom. He married a white girl, lived in Brentwood, hung out with white people, was in movies and t.v. commercials for white audiences, and so on. But the multi-generational race war being waged against the LAPD was too powerful. O.J. was a chance to get back at them for Rodney King, even if he wasn't the "blackest" defendant available.

    Also, black lady jurors did not sympathize with the victims.

    Black women hate White women.

    That’s all.

  141. @Harry Baldwin
    When one of the main characters on Downton Abbey wanted to leave the show, they ended an episode with him driving down a country road, rounding a curve, and slamming into a hay wagon.

    In a twist on this, Ballykissangel ended with the pub owner being electrocuted when working on her own wiring. It had been long-established that she was a competent electrician, not prone to beginner’s mistakes, and the missus thought this was a particularly wacky ending.

    Then I surmised that, as she and the local priest had the makings of a crush on one another, perhaps it was deliberate, or more likely unconscious, suicide. “Aha!” Now it makes sense. Especially when you consider the Church’s teaching that suicide is a one-way ticket to Hell. But not if it’s an accident.

  142. @Jack D
    Sure they would accept it if their other conditions are met. These would include some kind of large restitution for police time, "community service" and probably at least a token jail sentence (Jussie's lawyers will fight hard against the latter). They would also have to work out some kind of non-apology apology - "even though I was really attacked, I apologize for wasting everyone's time."

    Jussie's protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense ("if the ski mask don't fit you must acquit") but there's a black police chief denouncing him, a black judge, etc. and half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors. And it has been officially announced that Jussie did this for selfish reasons and not to help out the black race. As I have said before, they don't dare put him on the witness stand to peddle this bullshit and without his testimony, there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt - the brother's testimony, the paper and electronic trail, etc. But maybe he thinks that just by maintaining his innocence and THREATENING to go to trial that this will cow the prosecutors into a more favorable plea bargain - if he admitted guilt now then the prosecutors would have nothing left to lose. I am sure that the prosecutors want to make this go away for other reasons - the trial of Jussie is not the background music that they want for the Democratic primary season. But not so badly that they are going to let him go with only a slap on the wrist. From now until his plea bargain there is going to be a lot of Kabuki theater and leaks to the press as both sides posture and flex their muscles but ultimately they both want to make this go away.

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic…

    Consider his choice of profession.

  143. Anon[118] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Jessie Smollett gets Jewish Justice.

    There are two kinds of justice in the world, metaphorically speaking.
    Jewish Justice and Palestinian Justice.

    Notice that Jews & Israel can do just about anything. Build nukes, pass nuke technology to apartheid South Africa, aid ISIS fighters, shoot missiles into Syria, mow down Palestinian protesters, occupy Palestinian territory(and Israel itself was stolen in Nakba) & grab more land, use neo-apartheid against Palestinians, exploit Slavic women for white slavery, drug an entire nation on opioids, use the US and EU to wage Wars for Israel, rob Russia of its wealth, spread paranoia about Iran & Russia, and etc. Even get Jonathan Pollard out of prison even though his espionage led to the deaths of hundreds. And yet, all we hear from US politicians is WE LOVE JEWS, WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF THE HOLOCAUST, GIVE MORE BILLIONS TO ISRAEL, HATE IRAN, HATE RUSSIA, HATE WHATEVER JEWS HATE. That is how Jewish Justice works.

    As for the Palestinians? They were destroyed by massive Jewish immigration-invasion with the backing of Jewish bankers and the empires of UK, US, & USSR. Palestinians had no chance as the great empires all gave cover and protection to Jewish takeover of Palestine. Palestinians were provoked into war because the division of their homeland was imposed by foreigners. If China or Iran today were to send in tons of their peoples into Israel and then call for dividing the nation in two — one for Jews, one for newcomers –, how would Jews react? They would rise up and resist. Palestinians understandably rose up in 1948, but they were crushed, and the war was used as pretext to ethnically expel the bulk of the Arab population by means of terror. And then, under more bogus pretext Zionists also seized West Bank in 1967, setting off endless Jewish migration-invasions that have drastically reduced Palestinian territory. But does anyone talk of Nakba in the US? Is there Nakba day or Nakba memorial? Nakba week or Palestinian Tragedy Month? Does any politician, Democratic or Republican, mention the utter injustice experienced by Palestinians? Has there been a single movie or TV show about Nakba or the Occupation? No. That is how Palestinian Justice works.

    So, metaphorically speaking, which one are you? A Meta-Jew or a Meta-Palestinian? So many stupid whites thought that if they support Jews, praise Jews, hug Jews, indulge Jews, and worship Jews, Jews would treat whites as meta-Jews. But if Jews treated whites as equals, then whites would have the same rights and privileges as the Jews. Jews couldn’t tolerate that because Jewish Supremacist Power — Current Jews are addicted to supremacism like Japanese were addicted to Pan-Asian supremacism and Germans to Pan-European supremacism in WWII — depends on white submission and subservience to Jews, just like Jewish possession and domination of Israel-West-Bank depends on Palestinian subordination to Jewish Might. Then, it was hardly surprising that Jewish power treated whites a Meta-Palestinians.
    Now, which groups did Jews promote as Meta-Jews? Blacks and Homos. Blacks could be used to paralyze white moral pride — the stuff about slavery and endless remembrance of Emmitt Till — and undermine white manhood pride(as black men can kick white male butt and win the respect of white women with jungle fever). Reduced to wussy cucks, white race has been made to feel a need for redemption and benediction from morally superior groups. Knowing this, Jews pulled a bait-and-switch. Bait White Americans mainly with guilt about blacks, but then steer white desire for redemption toward serving Jews and Israel, which is ironically doing to Palestinians what whites once did to blacks long ago under Segregation. Same with the manipulation of white guilt about American Indians. Tell whites that they must atone for the ‘genocide’ of Indians by letting in more immigration-invasion. Total Bait-and-Switch. If mass immigration destroyed the American Indians, why should there be MORE immigration? Well, it’s good for Jews in their game of divide-and-rule.

    As for Homos as Meta-Jews, they are useful in boosting minority-elite power/privilege as the New Normal of social, cultural, and political affairs Jewish minority-elites and homo minority-elites see eye-to-eye. Jews boost homo power, and all those homos in Deep State — Washington DC is 10% homo — serve the agenda of Zionist hegemony all over the world. Also, globo-homo craziness has been effective in replacing Christianity and traditional-natural-normal values that empower the normal goy populace. If all those straights have been led to believe that the highest value is ‘rainbow’ homos who indulge in fecal penetration and trannies who cut off penises(and beat up women in sports), then it means the great majority of normal people, de-normalized and devoid of moral confidence in themselves, must SUBMIT to the ‘values’ of the ‘special’ minority.

    So, there is Jewish Justice for Jews, black Meta-Jews, and homo Meta-Jews. Whites sucked up to Jews in the hope of being considered as fellow Meta-Jews, but Jews said “No, you can’t be our equal. You exist to serve us.” Whites could have woken up and told Jewish power to go to hell, but they just cucked and keep their heads bowed. Uppity whites were denounced as ‘white supremacist’ and ‘nazi’. But then, why shouldn’t white elites debase themselves this way? They’ve lost all pride but do get fat paychecks from Jewish Power. Paul Ryan will make some serious money. The Bush Die-Nasty got a second chance with George W. Bush because it totally cucked to Neocons with Dick Cheney as middleman. The white elites are worthless cucks, but they get paid well for being such good dogs. The John McCain farewell was the biggest Good Dog pet funeral of all time.

    Anyway, there is no Jewish Justice for whites. As Meta-Palestinians in the eyes of Jews, Whites only get Palestinian Justice. SPLC and ADL spread lies, but they are showered with tons of cash from Jews, favored by media, and get to defame anyone. Meanwhile, Jared Taylor has struggle and scrape to secure a place for a conference(despite the fact that among white advocates, he usually cucks to Jews). Antifa scum get to bash heads, but their violence is not denounced by the Jewish-run Media. They are indulged with favorable Jewish Justice. There are Jewish lawyers to represent them if they get caught, which is rarely the case as cops have been ordered to go easy on them. These scum can bash skulls with padlocks but get off scot-free. Meanwhile, people who push back and fight back are denied banking service, deplatformed, railroaded, and locked up behind bars. They get Palestinian Justice. And Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions have done NOTHING for white patriots. Despite the bogus rhetoric, Trump has gone along with the arrangement of Jewish Justice for Jews, blacks, homos, illegals, antifa scum AND Palestinian Justice for whites, even those who supported him despite getting attacked in the streets by globohomo thugs.

    White people need to wake up to the fact that they will never be anything but Meta-Palestinians in the eyes of Jews. Sure, some whites will do okay if they collaborate, but then Palestinians who collaborate in West Bank are rewarded too. Just like there are two forms of justice in Israel-West-Bank — one for Jews, one for Palestinians — , there are two forms of justice in the US and the world as devised by hegemonic globohomo Jewish Power. As far as Jews are concerned, white patriots in US and EU, Russians, Iranians, Syrians, and Christian Conservatives are Meta-Palestinians who deserve Palestinian Justice. Even when Jews wrong Russia, Russia gets blamed. Even when Jewish-controlled US is the aggressor against Russia, Russia is the guilty party. Why would hypocritical Jews who treat Palestinians like shi* treat the rest of the world any differently? Why did whites ever think that if they support Jews treating Palestinians like subhumans, Jews are somehow going to treat whites any better? After all, aren’t both Palestinians and whites a bunch of ‘dirty goyim’ in Jewish eyes? Don’t Jews think in terms of “Is it good for the Jews?” wherever they are and whomever they’re with? The West looked the other way and even aided Israel’s invasion of West Bank, but did this lead to Jewish gratitude to the West? No, Jewish policy toward EU and US follows the same dynamics as Zionist policy toward Palestinians in the West Bank. It is population replacement and destruction of goy nationalism on the arrogant Mono-Nationalist premise that ONLY JEWS are deserving of proud identity and nationalism.

    The current formula is as follows:

    Jewish Justice or JJ for Jews, Negro Meta-Jews, and Homo Meta-Jews.

    Palestinian Justice or PJ for whites, Russia, Syria, Iran.

    And then, there’s the tricky part. If Muslims are OVER THERE, they deserve Palestinian Justice. Sanction them, destroy their economy, invade them, rain bombs on them, turn them into refugees. In their home nations, all these Arabs and Muslims are Meta-Palestinians. (There are exceptions. Saudis are Meta-Jews because they are such total cuck-dogs of the Zionist-US empire. Saudis can get away with anything: Murder, Torture, aiding terrorists.)
    But if Muslims are OVER HERE, they suddenly favored with Jewish Justice. Protect them, promote them, and coddle them as akin to New Jews, a vulnerable minority group that needs to be protected from MAGA-monsters. But then, if like Ilhan Omar, a Muslim in America talks about Jewish Money and Power, he or she is back to being treated with Palestinian Justice.

    No matter what whites do for Jews, Jews will always regard whites as Meta-Palestinians. It’s about time whites realized this. Only then can whites work toward equal justice for all peoples, one that will recognize the right of nationalism and sovereignty for all peoples(than just for Jews). What Jews mean by ‘liberal democracy’ is Jewish supremacism and privilege. Real justice would not favor Jews over whites or whites over Jews or Jews over Palestinians or Palestinians over Jews. It would say that Palestinians and whites are deserving of nations and national security, just like Israel as a Jewish state.
    It’s utterly disingenuous for whites to complain about how Jewish power is undermining nationhood for white people when white people have supported the Zionist denial of nationhood to Palestinians. By assenting to Zionism’s perversion of justice into a matter of Jewish Justice for Jews and Palestinian Justice for Palestinians, whites have encouraged Jewish Power to see the entire world as a macro-version of West Bank: One rule for Jews, another for goyim.
    White liberation/emancipation from Jewish supremacism begins with saying NO MORE to Zionist colonization of the West Bank. Any white person who supports this has NO RIGHT to complain about Jewish power doing the SAME THING to his own nation. If Bob supports Bill’s attack on innocent Paul, why should Bob complain when Bill turns around and attacks Bob too?

  144. @Arclight
    Yeah, his continued statements of innocence seem pretty nuts at this point, even taking into account some kind of hope that in a trial a mostly black jury won't be likely to throw the book at him. A look over at the comments at The Root show that most people 100% believe he concocted this and are pretty fed up with his attempts to weasel out of responsibility.

    I am guessing his lawyers were going to try and work some kind of plea deal without jail time initially and he won't shut up. I think Garagos now is going for an Alford plea, where he does not admit guilt but does concede the evidence is sufficient to convict him - that way he can keep claiming he is innocent but had to make an agreement because those wily CPD detectives worked with disgruntled extras to frame him.

    Yeah, his continued statements of innocence seem pretty nuts at this point…

    Or do they?

    • Replies: @athEIst
    TIMELINE

    Producers want Jussie to finish last two episodes of Empire.
    Jussie returns to work and tells crew they must believe him.
    Jussie is written out of last two episodes.

    One wonders what the crew's reaction was?
  145. @Blue Juice
    I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    This sounds like trolling, but I will take the bait.

    Jussie Smollett has already been written out of the last 2 episodes of Empire. Things are not going well for him. It is the Democrats who need to back away, badly, not the cops.

  146. @Jack D
    Last night I saw a documentary about Nero and the historical accounts that have come down to us from the Roman "historians". They were able to debunk certain parts of the history as being physically impossible - the historians said that Nero had poisoned he brother by putting a colorless, tasteless, instant acting poison in his water, but no such poison existed in antiquity. They said that he had gotten rid of his mother by having a trap door open up in the bottom of her ship, but that's impossible without sinking the ship. Etc. They said that Roman audiences didn't really expect history books to be literally true - the were a form of entertainment, like we don't expect "based on a true event" movies to be true in every detail. The important thing was the "greater truth" that Nero was a bad guy (just like MAGA guys are) so whether the particular events used to illustrate his badness actually happened or not was not really important to the audience.

    It seems like we are moving back toward that traditional relationship with the truth - "emotional truth" (like the way Dr. Professor Blasey Ford and the cat ladies of America felt about Judge Kavanaugh) is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc.

    So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    Plus he has the emotional maturity of a four year old who will deny that he got into the cookie jar even if he is holding a half eaten cookie in his hand.

    Blacks are using well tested and successful templates used by Jews.

    Ruth Madoff was heard on surveillance tape blaming anti-Semites for her husband’s problems.

    Haaretz had the following title: “The Madoff Betrayal: Life Imitates anti-Semitism” in 2008.

  147. @Blue Juice
    Depends which brass you're referring to. Our Superintendent "Special Ed" was trying to play both sides of the fence for sure. There was a lot of hand-wringing and petty bickering behind the scenes at headquarters. Most CPD brass really don't understand detective work and the subtle hand you have to have. Hell, they never thought that the co-conspirators would confess and even used the Nigerian brothers statement word for word at the last press conference (big mistake). No one knows for sure but Fat-Head Ed seemed deathly afraid this was all a hoax. I'm sure he's somewhat relieved that this is only a felony Disorderly Conduct charge. Most of the CPD brass are still hoping the local charges will get suspended and the Feds charge him with mail fraud or terrorism hoax charges but that looks unlikely. The detectives and SDSC police did a great job but this investigation is career suicide. BTW the department is investigating how so much of the investigation got leaked and heads are gonna roll. Without those leaks the press would have been left in the dark and the obvious hate crime hoax could have been swept under the rug. The brass are going to investigate and punish the leaks with way more enthusiasm than Jussie Smollett.

    Why are fed charges unlikely?

    • Replies: @JMcG
    Because the feds hate Trump and charging him helps Trump.
  148. A hate hoax almost as obvious as this one was Columbia Professor Elizabeth Midlarsky spray painting those red swastikas on the walls outside her office (after taking down some pictures so they wouldn’t get messed up). That was November 28, 2019. It’s still “unsolved”, so it will be eternally be described as an “anti-Semitic hate crime”.

    I’m sure Jussie was also hoping for the same permanent victim celebrity status now enjoyed by Professor Midlarsky.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    Whoa. Minority report!

    That was November 28, 2019.
     
  149. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Blue Juice
    I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    Retired probation officer here. I know exactly what you’re talking about. I had to walk on egg shells for years. My career suicide was sending rapists off to maximum terms in state prison instead of the 3 week evaluation in a mental hospital and then released to commit another rape. I managed to change that to state prison but I could have been tortured and killed by black panthers White liberals or black Muslims.

    Nothing has changed in 60 years.

  150. Exactly right. How can the writers resist, No such thing as bad publicity. Smollett has more publicity than anyone. THe story arc is tremendous, especially is some writers with a gift for black comedy can be found to make that story line hilarious. Imagine the store clerk raising her eyebrow when the huge black men are buying the ski masks. How about the camera that points the wrong way, and the altered phone records when the police already have the real ones. That’s just the factual stuff, now make up more. A comedy of errors. How not to do a scam. This could build an audience for Empire among white conservatives,

    Then, at the end, you send him off to jail and forget him, or start a spinoff.

  151. @Anon
    Guess who is reinforcing stereotypes. She likes to climb things.

    Old Black Narrative: "White man, you dragged us here by force, cutting us from our roots"

    New Black Narrative: "White man, drag our ass to your white-ass nations so we can get the gibs."

    https://twitter.com/JxhnBinder/status/1098761446643695617

    Trump can’t even deport her. What a failure.

    So much hope, so much fail.

  152. @AnotherDad
    My bing news feed now has a little box saying "suspended from the show". Someone wised up.

    ~~~
    Seems to me all TV shows should always shoot some driving--distracted, panicked look--shots with each regular, so they can quickly "have an accident" and be cut if they become a pain in the ass.

    Not that I ever watched the show, but Babylon 5 apparently did just that. The creator made sure that he had a “trap door” to drop each character into should the actor leave the show or have to be written out. The creator was all about the show being a “novel for television” and didn’t want to get hung up if one actor couldn’t stay the course.Apparently, the show used these trap doors a few times and didn’t have any continuity issues.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Babylon 5 was kind of an odd show. To watch it, you'd really assume it was written by Jews, but the guy who created the show and wrote nearly every episode was supposedly a Polish Catholic.

    To give one example, one guy is accused of being responsible for the death of 5-6 million Narn aliens (Holocaust number.). He is beaten to death by Narns while black gospel singers sing "No Hiding Place."

    Lots of miscegenation between blacks and whites. Usually black men and blond women.

    A politician is assassinated by evil conspirators because he was supporting open trade and borders for earth with aliens. Aliens were settling on earth in large numbers. Diversity is said to be humanity's special strength. Something missing from aliens.

    And the doctor is black, but that is pretty standard.
  153. @Blue Juice
    I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    Many thanks for your perspective!

  154. @Blue Juice
    I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    We’re stupid in the sense that they’ve walked all over us for sixty years and we haven’t a clue about what to do about it.

    • Agree: Thea
  155. The Jewish half of him took naturally to swindling, while the black half’s laughable incompetence screwed it all up. Just as well, as he was trying to kickstart a bloody race war, and merely to disguise his grift while achieving a fraudulently-earned immortality.

    THE BELL CURVE strikes again!

  156. @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque
    I don't think Mr. Sailer is being fair to the victim, Mr. Smollet.

    If one were to look hard enough, one would likely find he once had a family member who was a slave who was beaten and prolly even hanged.

    Mr. Smollet can not be guilty of this crime because he was raised by folks who are themselves the victims of America's racist past and victimhood passes through the DNA of the sons and daughters of slaves like something or other passes through a water hose or one's kidneys or something.

    Of that there can be no disagreement, only disparagement, denial, doubt, or double decker systematic disparity.

    Mr. Smollet is a victim of a racism that becomes ever more puissant the more it seems to disappear from the system itself. One imagines that racism is like a brick passing through the kidneys of America and, thus, easily identifiable and preventable.

    However, racism works more like Homeopathy which cures the illness in a person by convincing a person to consume remedies comprised of actually nothing more than water or ETOH arrived at via serial dilutions so that the greater the lack of something in the remedy consumed by the patient, the more puissant it actually is.

    This is the same form of racism that infected poor Mr. Smollet. Whereas formal racism, such as Jim Crow Laws, have been diluted to the point of non-existence, the memory of those laws in the American system act as a type of infection possessing the intellects of those whose progenitors were slaves.

    Far from being condemned, Mr. Smollet is to be congratulated for directing his anger inwardly towards his own self, rather than striking at the man.

    If one were to look hard enough, one would likely find he once had a family member who was a slave who was beaten and prolly even hanged.

    Yeah, but he was hanged first so it’s inadmissable.

  157. @Blue Juice
    I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    Well friend you’re closer (I’m already out of Chicago; way out) so maybe I’m being a Pollyanna here. I just don’t see how the outcome you describe could be possible under these facts. But if the thing does play out as you say, hand me the black pill. It’s over. In any event, thank you for your service.

  158. @San Fernando Curt
    I've dashed off a quick treatment of an "Empire" episode in which Smollett's character is injured while filming a Subway commercial. Someone loaded a meatball footlong with live ammo. Then, then if that doesn't win him support and a movement against this police frame-up - and it won't - we go right to the reliable Elevator Shaft.

    But it’s gotta be the unreliable elevator with men wearing MAGA hats removing its “Out of Order” sign. Then, a poor unsuspecting Jussie gets “shafted”. Verisimilo-mo-tude.

  159. @Anonymous

    No-dad-having young black men, literally and figuratively swinging their bratty dick around because they think they can with impunity.
     
    Smullett had a dad around though, didn't he?

    “no-dad-having”.

    I wonder how long before that gets into the Oxford English Dictionary?

  160. So when will Liam Neeson–who never actually committed a crime–get work again?

  161. Holy Black demands burnt offering… literally.

  162. @Calvin X Hobbes
    A hate hoax almost as obvious as this one was Columbia Professor Elizabeth Midlarsky spray painting those red swastikas on the walls outside her office (after taking down some pictures so they wouldn't get messed up). That was November 28, 2019. It's still "unsolved", so it will be eternally be described as an "anti-Semitic hate crime".

    I'm sure Jussie was also hoping for the same permanent victim celebrity status now enjoyed by Professor Midlarsky.

    Whoa. Minority report!

    That was November 28, 2019.

  163. @eah
    https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1098801528205324288

    Not anymore he don’t and it’s been what, a day since he was arrested? Patience, patience people.

  164. oh my god the full bit. this will go down as an all timer in the pantheon of NBA on TNT https://t.co/09wJ8EgUwF— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) February 22, 2019

    In light of the recent events surrounding the young Emmet Till, we need more people like Sopan to remind us all that humanity isn’t all bad, and it’s okay to laugh at the little things.

  165. @mikeInThe716
    How long until someone in Democratic field promises to pardon Jussie?!? I mean, in today's environment, would they even have to give reasons?

    If elected, they could pardon Jussie for only the federal postal terrorism related charges. Presidents have no authority to grant pardons for state crimes.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    QUOTE: Presidents have no authority to grant pardons for state crimes.

    Yes they do.
  166. @Jack D
    The game is not over yet.

    LOL

    For the record, on a personal level I want the justice system to function as intended and very much prefer that Smollett go to jail.

    But based on the patterns I have been noticing, it’s not going to happen.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Seriously Sailer - this was posted two days ago and still in purgatory?

    I'm sorry for all the wrong I done you.
  167. @Mr McKenna

    He’s routinely described as the “consummate pro” who was always ready to do press promotional appearances on behalf of the show or the network. “When an executive needs a star to show up at a charity dinner, Jussie’s the one you call,” a senior Fox executive said.
     
    It should be forbidden to the MSM to use quotation marks without specific attributions.

    The temptation to just make stuff up is just too great.

    Mr. M, And the network sends a car, Jussie gets a free meal and free publicity.

  168. @South Texas Guy
    Never seen the show, but I read that one of the producers called him the 'third lead.' It could be that it's problematic (hat tip, Sailer)) to just fire him. They may need him back to wrap up the season, and then he goes all Poochie to his home planet.

    Tex, “Game of Thrones” is way, way bigger than “Empire” and they replaced an actor, episode to episode. So who needs Smollett, just his character.

  169. @Blue Juice
    I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    You are being too pessimistic here. Federal charges are still coming – the Feds have not forgotten. Jussie is now persona non grata among the Hollywood crowd. He is not going to be sipping champagne and caviar at Hollywood parties while you drink cold coffee and eat stale donuts in your patrol car. He has caused embarrassment to a number of important Democrat politicians who USED TO BE his friends and were made by him to look like fools. Kamala Harris doesn’t like to be made to look like a fool when she is aiming for POTUS. He has been voted off the island. The Party Line from now on is that he did this for purely selfish reasons to get more money from Fox (the Jew side of him coming out) and not to help People of Color, so he deserves whatever he gets from the justice system. Maybe 5 years from now he can get some bit parts on a BET series or he can sell rap records over the internet for his hardcore black fans but his mainstream legitimacy is finito. He is the new Milli Vanilli.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    You have made many Jussie predictions. We shall see how this all pans out. The news cycle moves so quickly that all the Jussie dramas of the last three weeks can fade out very fast. Not deliberately memory holed but overtaken by new titillation events aka bread and circuses for the hooked on LED display screen masses. LED displays of all kinds from phones to 60" TVs/

    Here is an anti-aging geneticist agreeing that the news cycle moves very fast. Don't have the minute in for you but I have so far heard 80%. Tune in at 30 minutes for the heck of it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOTS0HS7aq4
  170. Did you see the ABS on the body-builder brothers? Jussie saw them too…up close…virtually in front of his eyes .. $3500 worth.

  171. @Anon
    Lest we forget this blast from Chicago's hate crime past:

    'Is that what a life is worth?' Last of 4 defendants pleads guilty to recorded beating of teen with disability

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-facebook-live-hate-crime-20180712-story.html

    These were the four unwholesome looking black youths (with the now de rigeur chick member, thugness is not just for boys anymore) who kidnapped and tortured a disabled white kid and demanded a "three hundred dollar" ransom.

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-586ebc6f/turbine/ct-hate-crime-charges-in-facebook-live-attack-photos/700/700x394

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-facebook-live-hate-crime-20180712-story.html

    Anon, A few years ago, in Chicago, a group of black teens beat a black honor student to death, taking turns hitting him with a 2×4. How do I know” They filmed it.

    • Replies: @Truth
    That's what he get for anserin' all them questions, making class go on longer and shit.
    , @Bubba
    That was awful and literally made me sick when I saw that black mob taunting and laughing as Derrion Albert was brutally tortured and murdered in broad daylight on a South Chicago street. I wonder how many of those kids wildly encouraging that sick stone age brutality in 2009 America could have been Obama's son (it was the district next door to the one he represented while he did nothing in the Illinois State Senate). It's the same as ISIS recording beheadings, but at least they don't laugh while performing their barbaric act.

    This happens all the time with black thugs - it's no big deal for them and our prisons are filled with horror stories like the one you mentioned. Thanks to Jared Kushner they will soon be out of prison.
  172. @Jaypo
    Off Topic:

    Time's Up president Lisa Borders stepped down after allegations of sexual assault were made against her son, the group has announced.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/22/times-chief-resigns-assault-allegation-against-son/

    Is that Lisa “Open” Borders?

  173. It says Eitan (Ethan), which is the name of one of the kids. Presumably the other kid has his own crib with his name on it, but for purposes of the photo-op they put both kids in Ethan’s crib.

  174. @Blue Juice
    I’ve been a Chicago Police Officer for over 25 years and know some of the detectives that have been working this case so maybe I can provide a different perspective and some insights which haven’t been discussed yet.
    #1) This was no a stupid plot. It was racist, evil and conniving but stop calling it stupid. His plan worked and he mostly got what he wanted. He would have gotten away with it entirely if he just told the police he refused to file a report after calling 911. He could have played the eternal victim without question on social media. His manager screwed up his plans and insisted on a police report which resulted in a felony. No one at this site was fooled but he doesn’t care about people like you or me because we would never watch “Empire” or listen to his music. He fooled all the people he needed and wanted to. The entertainment industry and black community will embrace him and protect him like it always does. This arrest simply sets his plan back a year or so.
    #2) The detectives and CPD brass may have spiked the football at the last press conference but the realization has now hit that this investigation was career suicide. Our black female Cook County State’s Attorney has recused and distanced herself as far away from this case as possible. I can tell you that the anxiety within the department has increased steadily over the last 2 weeks. The Democratic machine and entertainment industry will never forgive or forget that the CPD embarrassed one of their protected people. Once this blows over expect a Netflix documentary on the racist and incompetent CPD as well as a batch of Hollywood movies and TV shows depicting CPD as the real bad guys. Those detectives and sergeants will have their personal lives examined until something…anything is found. We were always relieved here in Chicago that for whatever reason the Left loved to pick on the LAPD. That blind hatred and those crosshairs have now moved onto our department.
    #3) Oh how the tables can turn in the blink of an eye in racial socialist America. We live in a clown world. People joke that Jussie will do prison time. He won’t. Our criminal justice system is not designed to prosecute and punish people like Jussie. He will shortly go back to his wealthy life of privilege, Hollywood parties and getting laid and doing drugs every weekend. Once this blows over he will get a standing ovation at some awards show and get a bit part in the next Black Panther movie. The detectives and average Trump supporter will have to go back to work and pay for those gibs in quiet desperation. Who’s the stupid one in the end?

    Blue, Nice comment. Much to think about from your perspective.

    • Agree: ic1000
  175. @Jack D
    Apparently they are almost done filming the season and would like to get it in the can. Having to write Jussie out now on short notice would be problematic. By the time they film the next season it will be clearer if Jussie is unavailable due to being in jail or is an official pariah, in which case they can just write his character out of the plot ("Jussie has moved to Wakanda") or if by some miracle he manages to maintain his credibility they can go on as if nothing happened, and in the meantime they are not seen as being mean to a gay person of color.

    Jack, Too funny, …”like to get it in the can.”

  176. @guest
    I'm sure plenty of blacks saw O.J. as an Uncle Tom. He married a white girl, lived in Brentwood, hung out with white people, was in movies and t.v. commercials for white audiences, and so on. But the multi-generational race war being waged against the LAPD was too powerful. O.J. was a chance to get back at them for Rodney King, even if he wasn't the "blackest" defendant available.

    Also, black lady jurors did not sympathize with the victims.

    I believe I read that a jury consultant told the prosecution that black female jurors would be the most hostile to their case because they don’t like pretty white women dating black men…but Marcia Clark thought they would sympathize with her because of the domestic violence angle. Whoops.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    Didn't Lee Kwan Yew say something about that?

    In a multicultural society you vote your race and not your social interests

    I may have paraphrased him a bit there.
    , @Anon
    It’s my opinion that the black activists informed the powers that be and the politicians that if OJ were convicted there would be a repeat of the Rodney King riot.

    So the DAs were ordered to lose the case and they did.
  177. OMG, I can’t believe you people are taking the word of the evil Chicago Police Department over that of our righteous media and politicians. This kind of hate amounts to nothing less than persecution of those of us in the reality-fluid hoaxosexual community.

  178. @Jack D
    Apparently they are almost done filming the season and would like to get it in the can. Having to write Jussie out now on short notice would be problematic. By the time they film the next season it will be clearer if Jussie is unavailable due to being in jail or is an official pariah, in which case they can just write his character out of the plot ("Jussie has moved to Wakanda") or if by some miracle he manages to maintain his credibility they can go on as if nothing happened, and in the meantime they are not seen as being mean to a gay person of color.

    gay person of color.

    You mean
    gay jew of color

  179. @Charles Pewitt
    Jussie Smollett -- age 36 -- and his anti-White HATE HOAX scam are rancid representations of the anti-White animosity that animates the spirit of this age.

    Jared Kushner -- age 38 -- is a Jew globalizer Israel First rat who sits in the White House and has the ear of Trump.

    Who has more power, and who should White Core American Patriots focus on?

    Jared Kushner has more power to shape the demography and future political atmosphere of the United States. Jared Kushner has much more political power and he is a tremendous political vulnerability for Trump.

    While we are watching the pea brain Smollett entertain us with his HATE HOAX antics, Jared "Bolshevik Boy" Kushner is plotting to flood the USA with more mass legal immigration.

    https://twitter.com/NeilMunroDC/status/1098577354035744769

    A breakthrough on the hate hoax front is important, but agree that the coming deal on immigration is more important. Trump has completely cucked on immigration and is planning another corporate extravaganza similar to the tax cuts. They’ve convinced him that unemployment is so low that the only way to MAGA is to increase immigration. Maybe he’ll get some Dem buy-in with amnesties. He has forgotten the Forgotten People he said he wouldn’t forget.

    Increasing immigration to MAGA is an oxymoron. Immigrants not only displace American workers but also require more of everything. This is the broken window model of perpetually higher GDP via importing consumers. Just like debt, we can spend our way to prosperity. Of course our country will be trashed, but billionaires will be trillionaires, for the win.

    • Agree: Clyde, Charles Pewitt
  180. @FPD72
    If elected, they could pardon Jussie for only the federal postal terrorism related charges. Presidents have no authority to grant pardons for state crimes.

    QUOTE: Presidents have no authority to grant pardons for state crimes.

    Yes they do.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    No they don't.
  181. @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, his continued statements of innocence seem pretty nuts at this point...
     
    Or do they?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pmBC_CrQS4

    TIMELINE

    Producers want Jussie to finish last two episodes of Empire.
    Jussie returns to work and tells crew they must believe him.
    Jussie is written out of last two episodes.

    One wonders what the crew’s reaction was?

  182. Meanwhile, the Noose Cycle is tightening around the neck of yet another Trump’s Deep Pocket. Kraft’s orthodox plight was so bad, that he not only succumbed to the ugliest possible of all yellow fevers, but his name also ended on The Schmukler’s List along with …Goering’s:

    Instant Schmaltz unt Schmooze:

    https://forward.com/schmooze/419811/robert-kraft-prostitutes-judaism/

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    The Forward delves into the ethics ...

    As the Kraft scandal unfolds, we feel moved to ask — does soliciting prostitution violate Jewish law?

    As is often the case in Jewish law, the answer is: It’s complicated...

    the Talmud draws a halakhic line “between what is ethically preferred and what is legally permitted,” with prostitution falling into the second category. Visiting a prostitute, though frowned upon, and a possible opportunity for pitfalls like incest and ritual impurity, was not forbidden, though it was preferred that the prostitute was not a Jewish woman.

    Two Talmudic texts that are frequently referenced in the Jewish debate about prostitution suggest that emphasis should be placed on optics, not actions.

    Better that a man secretly transgress and not publicly profane God’s name so that no one learns from his action,” according to Rabbi Hanina.
     
    So keep it on the down-low, shiksas-only ...
    , @Peripatetic Commenter
    Apparently there is another big name to drop.

    Marco Rubio? Jeb?
    , @Charles Pewitt
    New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was born in 1941. Spielberg should make a movie about him. Ned Beatty could play Kraft in the movie.

    The one guy named Daniel Young was born in 1934!

    https://youtu.be/cfonGN0Slt8
  183. @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, A few years ago, in Chicago, a group of black teens beat a black honor student to death, taking turns hitting him with a 2x4. How do I know" They filmed it.

    That’s what he get for anserin’ all them questions, making class go on longer and shit.

  184. @Arclight
    I believe I read that a jury consultant told the prosecution that black female jurors would be the most hostile to their case because they don't like pretty white women dating black men...but Marcia Clark thought they would sympathize with her because of the domestic violence angle. Whoops.

    Didn’t Lee Kwan Yew say something about that?

    In a multicultural society you vote your race and not your social interests

    I may have paraphrased him a bit there.

  185. @JimDandy
    What? Are you accusing the gay, attention-addicted, thespian prone to magical thinking who dreamed up, directed, and rehearsed a cartoonish scene (where he was cast as both a weepy victim deserving sympathy and a brave badass deserving respect) narcissistic?

    Not to mention that this sort of thing is not only normal in infotainment circles, but finding new and more extreme forms of it to sell undergirds the entire industry.

    Which then gets to pass judgment on genuinely normal people outside those circles and stir up violence against us.

  186. @bored identity
    Meanwhile, the Noose Cycle is tightening around the neck of yet another Trump's Deep Pocket. Kraft's orthodox plight was so bad, that he not only succumbed to the ugliest possible of all yellow fevers, but his name also ended on The Schmukler's List along with ...Goering's:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0BjAdVWkAIpQmF.jpg

    https://twitter.com/MerrisBadcock/status/1098987178674262017

    Instant Schmaltz unt Schmooze:

    https://forward.com/schmooze/419811/robert-kraft-prostitutes-judaism/

    The Forward delves into the ethics …

    As the Kraft scandal unfolds, we feel moved to ask — does soliciting prostitution violate Jewish law?

    As is often the case in Jewish law, the answer is: It’s complicated…

    the Talmud draws a halakhic line “between what is ethically preferred and what is legally permitted,” with prostitution falling into the second category. Visiting a prostitute, though frowned upon, and a possible opportunity for pitfalls like incest and ritual impurity, was not forbidden, though it was preferred that the prostitute was not a Jewish woman.

    Two Talmudic texts that are frequently referenced in the Jewish debate about prostitution suggest that emphasis should be placed on optics, not actions.

    Better that a man secretly transgress and not publicly profane God’s name so that no one learns from his action,” according to Rabbi Hanina.

    So keep it on the down-low, shiksas-only …

  187. @R.G.Camara
    Not that I ever watched the show, but Babylon 5 apparently did just that. The creator made sure that he had a "trap door" to drop each character into should the actor leave the show or have to be written out. The creator was all about the show being a "novel for television" and didn't want to get hung up if one actor couldn't stay the course.Apparently, the show used these trap doors a few times and didn't have any continuity issues.

    Babylon 5 was kind of an odd show. To watch it, you’d really assume it was written by Jews, but the guy who created the show and wrote nearly every episode was supposedly a Polish Catholic.

    To give one example, one guy is accused of being responsible for the death of 5-6 million Narn aliens (Holocaust number.). He is beaten to death by Narns while black gospel singers sing “No Hiding Place.”

    Lots of miscegenation between blacks and whites. Usually black men and blond women.

    A politician is assassinated by evil conspirators because he was supporting open trade and borders for earth with aliens. Aliens were settling on earth in large numbers. Diversity is said to be humanity’s special strength. Something missing from aliens.

    And the doctor is black, but that is pretty standard.

  188. @bored identity
    Meanwhile, the Noose Cycle is tightening around the neck of yet another Trump's Deep Pocket. Kraft's orthodox plight was so bad, that he not only succumbed to the ugliest possible of all yellow fevers, but his name also ended on The Schmukler's List along with ...Goering's:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0BjAdVWkAIpQmF.jpg

    https://twitter.com/MerrisBadcock/status/1098987178674262017

    Instant Schmaltz unt Schmooze:

    https://forward.com/schmooze/419811/robert-kraft-prostitutes-judaism/

    Apparently there is another big name to drop.

    Marco Rubio? Jeb?

  189. @Jack D
    Last night I saw a documentary about Nero and the historical accounts that have come down to us from the Roman "historians". They were able to debunk certain parts of the history as being physically impossible - the historians said that Nero had poisoned he brother by putting a colorless, tasteless, instant acting poison in his water, but no such poison existed in antiquity. They said that he had gotten rid of his mother by having a trap door open up in the bottom of her ship, but that's impossible without sinking the ship. Etc. They said that Roman audiences didn't really expect history books to be literally true - the were a form of entertainment, like we don't expect "based on a true event" movies to be true in every detail. The important thing was the "greater truth" that Nero was a bad guy (just like MAGA guys are) so whether the particular events used to illustrate his badness actually happened or not was not really important to the audience.

    It seems like we are moving back toward that traditional relationship with the truth - "emotional truth" (like the way Dr. Professor Blasey Ford and the cat ladies of America felt about Judge Kavanaugh) is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc.

    So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    Plus he has the emotional maturity of a four year old who will deny that he got into the cookie jar even if he is holding a half eaten cookie in his hand.

    A lot of the fun details from Greek and Roman history strike me as sounding like political slanders.

    I looked up what is known about Pericles’ girlfriend, for example, and it was a pretty random collection of denunciations and praise. I don’t think we have any single document about her, just passing references to her in stuff about other people, and the references to her are highly contradictory.

  190. @Anonymous

    It’s not a hoax. It’s a genuine hate crime.
     
    That's the "hate" part of "hate hoax".

    It’s not a hoax. It’s a genuine hate crime.

    That’s the “hate” part of “hate hoax”.

    That double entendre is one of the things that makes “hate hoax” better than “hate crime hoax.”

    • Replies: @Clyde

    That double entendre is one of the things that makes “hate hoax” better than “hate crime hoax.”
     
    Indeed! *Hate hoax* resonates and memes much better than *hate crime hoax*. Credit here to Steve for being there first with the condensed "hate hoax". It's that double H alliteration, which sounds a bit guttural Germanic, so more authoritative, but don't panic. And surely don't go manic like Jussie.
  191. @donut
    The state shouldn't offer him any kind of deal , a slap on the wrist is only going to signal that this kind of thing is okay .

    a slap on the wrist is only going to signal that this kind of thing is okay.

    That would be a feature, not a bug.

  192. Jussie appears to have lost the support of Trevor Noah and the Daily Show.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    If you've lost Trevor Noah you've lost the Upper West Side.
    , @Jack D
    1. One detail wrong: He didn't actually drop his sandwich.

    2. This is another sign that the Left has pulled the plug on Jussie. The Narrative from now on is that he was doing this out of personal greed, not to help his friend Kamala. This boy (oops, I mean young gay black man) is goin' down. He's been thrown under the bus. His Leftist buddies are not going to save him or see to it that he only gets a slap on the wrist.
  193. From Wikipedia: In 2016, a New York Times study of the 50 TV shows with the most Facebook Likes found that Empire “is most popular in the Black Belt and in parts of the country with a high percentage of Native Americans” Additionally, Empire has received numerous awards from NAACP Image Awards, BET and Black Reel Awards for Television. I think one can take an educated guess that the show performs very well within in the African-American demographic and that demo is probably far more sympathetic to Smollett than the population at large. FOX will be forced to walk a corporate tight rope on this one as we all know what happens when this demographic feels aggrieved.

  194. @Blue Juice
    Depends which brass you're referring to. Our Superintendent "Special Ed" was trying to play both sides of the fence for sure. There was a lot of hand-wringing and petty bickering behind the scenes at headquarters. Most CPD brass really don't understand detective work and the subtle hand you have to have. Hell, they never thought that the co-conspirators would confess and even used the Nigerian brothers statement word for word at the last press conference (big mistake). No one knows for sure but Fat-Head Ed seemed deathly afraid this was all a hoax. I'm sure he's somewhat relieved that this is only a felony Disorderly Conduct charge. Most of the CPD brass are still hoping the local charges will get suspended and the Feds charge him with mail fraud or terrorism hoax charges but that looks unlikely. The detectives and SDSC police did a great job but this investigation is career suicide. BTW the department is investigating how so much of the investigation got leaked and heads are gonna roll. Without those leaks the press would have been left in the dark and the obvious hate crime hoax could have been swept under the rug. The brass are going to investigate and punish the leaks with way more enthusiasm than Jussie Smollett.

    Re the Rogers Park killer, who gunned down two white men seemingly at random without taking their belongings, he now has his own Wikipedia entry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Walk_Killer

  195. @snorlax

    Jussie’s protestations of innocence at this stage are psychotic and I assume are his own thing and not some kind of trial strategy by his lawyers. Maybe he is thinking some kind of OJ defense
     
    That's exactly what he's thinking. Blacks believe whatever "so you're telling me there's a chance" theory of innocence promulgated by black defendants (O.J., Angela Davis, Chris Brown, Ray Lewis, "Tawana told the truth!"), seize on non sequiturs (Mark Fuhrman! Rodney King! Nooses on a tree!) and if all else fails insist he's being treated unfairly by police and prosecutors because he's black. O.J.'s white attorneys wanted him to take a deal but Cochran wisely ixnayed that idea when he was hired; he knew the mostly black jury guaranteed an acquittal or mistrial.

    That is, unless the defendant is perceived as an Uncle Tom. The Dems could see all the polls showing 90% of blacks believing in O.J.'s innocence were causing a significant problem with moderate whites and non-blacks, so they had all the black churches tell their congregations about an alleged O.J. quote where he's supposed to have said "I'm not black; I'm O.J." Cosby signed his legal death warrant when he aggressively criticized underclass black culture.

    Post-O.J., big-city prosecutors wised up about black jurors, so Jussie's strategy is likely more directed at public opinion (Chicago is plurality black) — putting pressure on the D.A. to drop the charges or agree to a slap on the wrist, or else put his re-election at risk.

    half Jewish gay black men are not necessarily the favorites of ghetto black lady jurors.
     
    Is this based on your experience or is it speculation? My impression as stated above is blacks of any description will always circle the wagons for any fellow (left-wing) black.

    Literally, in the case of the Cosby thing. The judge stated that Cosby’s comments were the reason he released all the sealed records that ended up torpedoing him.

  196. @Anonymous
    QUOTE: Presidents have no authority to grant pardons for state crimes.

    Yes they do.

    No they don’t.

  197. @Harry Baldwin
    When one of the main characters on Downton Abbey wanted to leave the show, they ended an episode with him driving down a country road, rounding a curve, and slamming into a hay wagon.

    Lawrence of Arabia was on Downton Abbey?

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Lawrence of Arabia was on Downton Abbey?
     
    Peter O'Toole looked very much like TE Lawrence. What a resemblance, going by TE's wiki photo! Due to your post I looked up his cause of death at age 46 which iirc is also in the movie, last seen years ago. What an awful childhood he had. No wonder he went native in Arabia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3898126/Peter-O-Toole-s-downward-spiral-one-England-s-greatest-actors-raging-alcoholic-nursed-Katharine-Hepburn-cut-friendship-Richard-Burton-Liz-Taylor-drunken-embrace.html
  198. @Joe, Averaged
    Why are fed charges unlikely?

    Because the feds hate Trump and charging him helps Trump.

  199. @Barnard
    Jussie appears to have lost the support of Trevor Noah and the Daily Show.

    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1098985879853563905

    If you’ve lost Trevor Noah you’ve lost the Upper West Side.

  200. @duncsbaby
    This country has far too many gay Canadian Jews already.

    With apologies to Bobby Bittman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Levy_(TV_personality)

    And I miss Lola Heatherton with Sammy Maudlin and John Candy as Divine…

  201. Jussie Smollett Back at Work on “Empire”

    Fox Producer: Jussie, I’ve got some good news for you and some bad news.

    Jussie: OK, tell me the good news first.

    Fox: You’re going back to work on “Empire”.

    Jussie: Oh, that’s great. You know that I am totally innocent, blah, blah, etc.

    Fox (cutting Jessie off): Jessie, don’t you want to know what the bad news is?

    Jussie: Oh, yeah right, the bad news. Go ahead, tell me the bad news.

    Fox: Your job now is sweeping the set.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  202. @Barnard
    Jussie appears to have lost the support of Trevor Noah and the Daily Show.

    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1098985879853563905

    1. One detail wrong: He didn’t actually drop his sandwich.

    2. This is another sign that the Left has pulled the plug on Jussie. The Narrative from now on is that he was doing this out of personal greed, not to help his friend Kamala. This boy (oops, I mean young gay black man) is goin’ down. He’s been thrown under the bus. His Leftist buddies are not going to save him or see to it that he only gets a slap on the wrist.

    • Replies: @Fabian Forge
    Can we look forward to "drop the sandwich" becoming a thing?
  203. Maybe his character could die of an opioid overdose.

  204. @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, A few years ago, in Chicago, a group of black teens beat a black honor student to death, taking turns hitting him with a 2x4. How do I know" They filmed it.

    That was awful and literally made me sick when I saw that black mob taunting and laughing as Derrion Albert was brutally tortured and murdered in broad daylight on a South Chicago street. I wonder how many of those kids wildly encouraging that sick stone age brutality in 2009 America could have been Obama’s son (it was the district next door to the one he represented while he did nothing in the Illinois State Senate). It’s the same as ISIS recording beheadings, but at least they don’t laugh while performing their barbaric act.

    This happens all the time with black thugs – it’s no big deal for them and our prisons are filled with horror stories like the one you mentioned. Thanks to Jared Kushner they will soon be out of prison.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Bubba, Derrion was beaten worse than Emmitt Tills and they filmed it and shared it and watched it and laughed. I remember seeing film clips of the Nazis beating people to death like that. I too was sickened.
  205. @Foreign Expert
    Anyone who can hold on to a sub sandwich straight through a racist attack deserves a second chance.

    Everyone needs a hero.

  206. @Jack D
    1. One detail wrong: He didn't actually drop his sandwich.

    2. This is another sign that the Left has pulled the plug on Jussie. The Narrative from now on is that he was doing this out of personal greed, not to help his friend Kamala. This boy (oops, I mean young gay black man) is goin' down. He's been thrown under the bus. His Leftist buddies are not going to save him or see to it that he only gets a slap on the wrist.

    Can we look forward to “drop the sandwich” becoming a thing?

  207. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:

    Well as the endless black history month conversation rolls on, what is never touched on is; why do white people HAVE to love black people? Everyone was a slave at some point. More whites were killed under Christianity than anyone. More whites were slaves under Christian rule and others than there were black slaves in America. I think whites in Europe were treated worse with the beheading rape and other forms of torture. There is the Jew and Black victim-hood that everyone seems to follow or if white bow to. So to the Jews, Germany and the rest of Europe isn’t the Middle East or Israel, and to the blacks this ain’t Africa and neither is Europe. To Both and all, no one came all this way on ships to be with you.

  208. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThinkLikeA1L
    This reminds me of the fairly bizarre David Begelman check-forging scandal detailed in Indecent Exposure.

    There, a pretty routine case of embezzlement became a circle-the-wagons Jews-v.-Gentiles drama where almost everyone involved came out worse off than they would have been if the studio had just severed ties with Begelman immediately.

    It was a jew Columbia pictures CEO Alan Hirschfield who insisted on the investigation and forced the board to fire Begelman. Hirschfield was later fired for firing Begelman.

    Hirschfield was a NewYork money man and manager who tried to rein in the excessive expensive account living in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles people thought excessive expense accounts and embezzlement was normal

  209. @Arclight
    I believe I read that a jury consultant told the prosecution that black female jurors would be the most hostile to their case because they don't like pretty white women dating black men...but Marcia Clark thought they would sympathize with her because of the domestic violence angle. Whoops.

    It’s my opinion that the black activists informed the powers that be and the politicians that if OJ were convicted there would be a repeat of the Rodney King riot.

    So the DAs were ordered to lose the case and they did.

  210. @JMcG
    Lawrence of Arabia was on Downton Abbey?

    Lawrence of Arabia was on Downton Abbey?

    Peter O’Toole looked very much like TE Lawrence. What a resemblance, going by TE’s wiki photo! Due to your post I looked up his cause of death at age 46 which iirc is also in the movie, last seen years ago. What an awful childhood he had. No wonder he went native in Arabia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3898126/Peter-O-Toole-s-downward-spiral-one-England-s-greatest-actors-raging-alcoholic-nursed-Katharine-Hepburn-cut-friendship-Richard-Burton-Liz-Taylor-drunken-embrace.html

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Peter O'Toole managed to live to age 81. I gather he went on the wagon at some point in the 1970s.

    O'Toole's pal Richard Harris lasted until he was 72 and was pretty awesome in "The Count of Monte Cristo" in 2002. From an obituary:


    He told a story about ringing Sir John Gielgud to congratulate him on his 90th birthday.

    " 'Happy birthday, Sir John,' I bellowed down the line. 'This is Richard Harris phoning from the Bahamas, just to wish you happy birthday and thank you for everything you have done for British theatre.'

    " 'Harris, you say,' replied Sir John. 'I don't know a Harris. Of course there is that very loud, vulgar chap from Ireland. Did the Camelot thing. Very bad reputation with drink and women I believe. Very bad indeed. Rugby chap. Anyway, thank you so very much for phoning from Bermuda. So sweet.' "
     

  211. @res


    It’s not a hoax. It’s a genuine hate crime.
     
    That’s the “hate” part of “hate hoax”.
     
    That double entendre is one of the things that makes "hate hoax" better than "hate crime hoax."

    That double entendre is one of the things that makes “hate hoax” better than “hate crime hoax.”

    Indeed! *Hate hoax* resonates and memes much better than *hate crime hoax*. Credit here to Steve for being there first with the condensed “hate hoax”. It’s that double H alliteration, which sounds a bit guttural Germanic, so more authoritative, but don’t panic. And surely don’t go manic like Jussie.

  212. @Jack D
    You are being too pessimistic here. Federal charges are still coming - the Feds have not forgotten. Jussie is now persona non grata among the Hollywood crowd. He is not going to be sipping champagne and caviar at Hollywood parties while you drink cold coffee and eat stale donuts in your patrol car. He has caused embarrassment to a number of important Democrat politicians who USED TO BE his friends and were made by him to look like fools. Kamala Harris doesn't like to be made to look like a fool when she is aiming for POTUS. He has been voted off the island. The Party Line from now on is that he did this for purely selfish reasons to get more money from Fox (the Jew side of him coming out) and not to help People of Color, so he deserves whatever he gets from the justice system. Maybe 5 years from now he can get some bit parts on a BET series or he can sell rap records over the internet for his hardcore black fans but his mainstream legitimacy is finito. He is the new Milli Vanilli.

    You have made many Jussie predictions. We shall see how this all pans out. The news cycle moves so quickly that all the Jussie dramas of the last three weeks can fade out very fast. Not deliberately memory holed but overtaken by new titillation events aka bread and circuses for the hooked on LED display screen masses. LED displays of all kinds from phones to 60″ TVs/

    Here is an anti-aging geneticist agreeing that the news cycle moves very fast. Don’t have the minute in for you but I have so far heard 80%. Tune in at 30 minutes for the heck of it.

  213. @Jack D
    Last night I saw a documentary about Nero and the historical accounts that have come down to us from the Roman "historians". They were able to debunk certain parts of the history as being physically impossible - the historians said that Nero had poisoned he brother by putting a colorless, tasteless, instant acting poison in his water, but no such poison existed in antiquity. They said that he had gotten rid of his mother by having a trap door open up in the bottom of her ship, but that's impossible without sinking the ship. Etc. They said that Roman audiences didn't really expect history books to be literally true - the were a form of entertainment, like we don't expect "based on a true event" movies to be true in every detail. The important thing was the "greater truth" that Nero was a bad guy (just like MAGA guys are) so whether the particular events used to illustrate his badness actually happened or not was not really important to the audience.

    It seems like we are moving back toward that traditional relationship with the truth - "emotional truth" (like the way Dr. Professor Blasey Ford and the cat ladies of America felt about Judge Kavanaugh) is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc.

    So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    Plus he has the emotional maturity of a four year old who will deny that he got into the cookie jar even if he is holding a half eaten cookie in his hand.

    > … “emotional truth” is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc. So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    My podcast app froze up yesterday, so I spent the final 2 1/2 hours of my drive listening to NPR. I could link to the shows (“Studio 54”? “Here And Now”?) but I won’t bother unless asked, since you can easily pick your own. At any rate, various parties offered various hand wringy interpretations, until one one interviewee hit the mark. This guy is a Disinguished Award Winning Black Gay Critic of something something for a Prestige Press organ, and he spat nails at CPD commissioner Special Ed for calling out Jussie. Because black men such as himself are under constant attack in America, so whether that particular attack did or didn’t occur is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    If that sounds familiar.

    The nice progressive host guy fell over himself agreeing with the astute analysis of his guest, good thing he can be so well compensated by the taxpayers to bring these truths to the flyovers.

    What this country needs is, I dunno, a conversation about race.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    If that sounds familiar.
     
    This stuff is not rocket science and is easy to spit out, like the scientists who dash off hoax papers for Grievance Studies journals. It practically writes itself. The people touting this stuff are such mediocrities that sometimes I feel like I could do a better job in my sleep.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    ic1000, I love this comment I read "Diarrhea of emotions, Constipation of facts."
  214. @Clyde

    Lawrence of Arabia was on Downton Abbey?
     
    Peter O'Toole looked very much like TE Lawrence. What a resemblance, going by TE's wiki photo! Due to your post I looked up his cause of death at age 46 which iirc is also in the movie, last seen years ago. What an awful childhood he had. No wonder he went native in Arabia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3898126/Peter-O-Toole-s-downward-spiral-one-England-s-greatest-actors-raging-alcoholic-nursed-Katharine-Hepburn-cut-friendship-Richard-Burton-Liz-Taylor-drunken-embrace.html

    Peter O’Toole managed to live to age 81. I gather he went on the wagon at some point in the 1970s.

    O’Toole’s pal Richard Harris lasted until he was 72 and was pretty awesome in “The Count of Monte Cristo” in 2002. From an obituary:

    He told a story about ringing Sir John Gielgud to congratulate him on his 90th birthday.

    ” ‘Happy birthday, Sir John,’ I bellowed down the line. ‘This is Richard Harris phoning from the Bahamas, just to wish you happy birthday and thank you for everything you have done for British theatre.’

    ” ‘Harris, you say,’ replied Sir John. ‘I don’t know a Harris. Of course there is that very loud, vulgar chap from Ireland. Did the Camelot thing. Very bad reputation with drink and women I believe. Very bad indeed. Rugby chap. Anyway, thank you so very much for phoning from Bermuda. So sweet.’ “

    • Replies: @Clyde
    81 is not bad for a Peter O'Toole life of excess going long past the 1970s (my opinion) and far as I know this is drinking liquor straight. Those actors and rockers like hard head Lemmy back then drank brandy and cognac straight like soda pop .... which is worse.
    You Steve gotta shoot for 94 or so like your dad and mine.
  215. @Jack D
    Last night I saw a documentary about Nero and the historical accounts that have come down to us from the Roman "historians". They were able to debunk certain parts of the history as being physically impossible - the historians said that Nero had poisoned he brother by putting a colorless, tasteless, instant acting poison in his water, but no such poison existed in antiquity. They said that he had gotten rid of his mother by having a trap door open up in the bottom of her ship, but that's impossible without sinking the ship. Etc. They said that Roman audiences didn't really expect history books to be literally true - the were a form of entertainment, like we don't expect "based on a true event" movies to be true in every detail. The important thing was the "greater truth" that Nero was a bad guy (just like MAGA guys are) so whether the particular events used to illustrate his badness actually happened or not was not really important to the audience.

    It seems like we are moving back toward that traditional relationship with the truth - "emotional truth" (like the way Dr. Professor Blasey Ford and the cat ladies of America felt about Judge Kavanaugh) is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc.

    So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    Plus he has the emotional maturity of a four year old who will deny that he got into the cookie jar even if he is holding a half eaten cookie in his hand.

    Want to lay it on that you have something there with emotioal truth. Something that we all here kind of know already.
    For me the pioneer was Rigoberta Menchu (fugly by the way) who got a Nobel Prize 1992 (putting one over on YT as in willfully stupid Scandis) for her dreamy lies of what went on in her home of some Central American (Trump interlude) shithole. She was spared by leftist intelligentsia and media due to being indigenous or some percentage thereof.
    __________________
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    More than a decade after the publication of I, Rigoberta Menchú, anthropologist David Stoll investigated Menchú’s story, researching government documents, reports, and land claims (many filed by Menchú’s own family), and interviewing former neighbors, locals, friends, enemies, and others for his 1999 book Rigoberta Menchú and the Story of All Poor Guatemalans.

    Stoll claimed Menchú changed some elements of her life, family and village to meet the publicity needs of the guerrilla movement, which she joined as a political comadre after her parents were assassinated. The controversy caused by Stoll’s book received widespread coverage in the US press of the time.
    Historian Greg Grandin claims Stoll’s research on the Guatemalan revolution is mostly wrong, but states that “two of Stoll’s charges concerning Menchú’s life do have merit”.

    First, he documents that she received some education, contradicting a claim that her father refused to send her to school because he did not want her to lose her cultural identity. Second, Stoll presents evidence that Menchú falsely placed herself at the scene of her 16-year-old brother’s murder. According to Grandin, Stoll in a later interview agreed to the “essential factuality of Menchú’s account of how her brother and mother died”.

    In her own critique of Stoll’s work, titled The Silencing of Maya Women from Mama Maquin to Rigoberta Menchu, anthropologist Victoria Sanford highlights inaccuracies in Stoll’s book, and claims that he used highly questionable sources as research informants.

    The Nobel Committee dismissed calls to revoke her Nobel Prize, rejecting the claims of falsification by Stoll. Geir Lundestad, the secretary of the Committee, said her prize “was not based exclusively or primarily on the autobiography”. According to the Nobel Committee,”Stoll approves of her Nobel prize and has no question about the picture of army atrocities which she presents. He says that her purpose in tel…

  216. @Steve Sailer
    Peter O'Toole managed to live to age 81. I gather he went on the wagon at some point in the 1970s.

    O'Toole's pal Richard Harris lasted until he was 72 and was pretty awesome in "The Count of Monte Cristo" in 2002. From an obituary:


    He told a story about ringing Sir John Gielgud to congratulate him on his 90th birthday.

    " 'Happy birthday, Sir John,' I bellowed down the line. 'This is Richard Harris phoning from the Bahamas, just to wish you happy birthday and thank you for everything you have done for British theatre.'

    " 'Harris, you say,' replied Sir John. 'I don't know a Harris. Of course there is that very loud, vulgar chap from Ireland. Did the Camelot thing. Very bad reputation with drink and women I believe. Very bad indeed. Rugby chap. Anyway, thank you so very much for phoning from Bermuda. So sweet.' "
     

    81 is not bad for a Peter O’Toole life of excess going long past the 1970s (my opinion) and far as I know this is drinking liquor straight. Those actors and rockers like hard head Lemmy back then drank brandy and cognac straight like soda pop …. which is worse.
    You Steve gotta shoot for 94 or so like your dad and mine.

  217. @bored identity
    Meanwhile, the Noose Cycle is tightening around the neck of yet another Trump's Deep Pocket. Kraft's orthodox plight was so bad, that he not only succumbed to the ugliest possible of all yellow fevers, but his name also ended on The Schmukler's List along with ...Goering's:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0BjAdVWkAIpQmF.jpg

    https://twitter.com/MerrisBadcock/status/1098987178674262017

    Instant Schmaltz unt Schmooze:

    https://forward.com/schmooze/419811/robert-kraft-prostitutes-judaism/

    New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was born in 1941. Spielberg should make a movie about him. Ned Beatty could play Kraft in the movie.

    The one guy named Daniel Young was born in 1934!

  218. @ic1000
    > ... “emotional truth” is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc. So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    My podcast app froze up yesterday, so I spent the final 2 1/2 hours of my drive listening to NPR. I could link to the shows (“Studio 54”? “Here And Now”?) but I won’t bother unless asked, since you can easily pick your own. At any rate, various parties offered various hand wringy interpretations, until one one interviewee hit the mark. This guy is a Disinguished Award Winning Black Gay Critic of something something for a Prestige Press organ, and he spat nails at CPD commissioner Special Ed for calling out Jussie. Because black men such as himself are under constant attack in America, so whether that particular attack did or didn’t occur is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    If that sounds familiar.

    The nice progressive host guy fell over himself agreeing with the astute analysis of his guest, good thing he can be so well compensated by the taxpayers to bring these truths to the flyovers.

    What this country needs is, I dunno, a conversation about race.

    If that sounds familiar.

    This stuff is not rocket science and is easy to spit out, like the scientists who dash off hoax papers for Grievance Studies journals. It practically writes itself. The people touting this stuff are such mediocrities that sometimes I feel like I could do a better job in my sleep.

  219. @Bubba
    That was awful and literally made me sick when I saw that black mob taunting and laughing as Derrion Albert was brutally tortured and murdered in broad daylight on a South Chicago street. I wonder how many of those kids wildly encouraging that sick stone age brutality in 2009 America could have been Obama's son (it was the district next door to the one he represented while he did nothing in the Illinois State Senate). It's the same as ISIS recording beheadings, but at least they don't laugh while performing their barbaric act.

    This happens all the time with black thugs - it's no big deal for them and our prisons are filled with horror stories like the one you mentioned. Thanks to Jared Kushner they will soon be out of prison.

    Bubba, Derrion was beaten worse than Emmitt Tills and they filmed it and shared it and watched it and laughed. I remember seeing film clips of the Nazis beating people to death like that. I too was sickened.

  220. @ic1000
    > ... “emotional truth” is more important that stupid literal details like what day a certain event happened and whether there is any corroboration, etc. So on an emotional level, Jussie knows that black men such as himself are under constant attack in America (and his arrest has not disabused him of that notion) so that whether this PARTICULAR attack did not occur or was even set up by him is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    My podcast app froze up yesterday, so I spent the final 2 1/2 hours of my drive listening to NPR. I could link to the shows (“Studio 54”? “Here And Now”?) but I won’t bother unless asked, since you can easily pick your own. At any rate, various parties offered various hand wringy interpretations, until one one interviewee hit the mark. This guy is a Disinguished Award Winning Black Gay Critic of something something for a Prestige Press organ, and he spat nails at CPD commissioner Special Ed for calling out Jussie. Because black men such as himself are under constant attack in America, so whether that particular attack did or didn’t occur is unimportant in relation to the greater truth expressed by almost 400 years of black oppression in America.

    If that sounds familiar.

    The nice progressive host guy fell over himself agreeing with the astute analysis of his guest, good thing he can be so well compensated by the taxpayers to bring these truths to the flyovers.

    What this country needs is, I dunno, a conversation about race.

    ic1000, I love this comment I read “Diarrhea of emotions, Constipation of facts.”

  221. @MikeatMikedotMike
    LOL

    For the record, on a personal level I want the justice system to function as intended and very much prefer that Smollett go to jail.

    But based on the patterns I have been noticing, it's not going to happen.

    Seriously Sailer – this was posted two days ago and still in purgatory?

    I’m sorry for all the wrong I done you.

  222. @Colin Wright
    '...Insiders who have worked closely with Smollett say they cannot understand why he would be motivated to be part of an elaborate hoax.'

    He is black. One noticeable tendency among blacks is a shaky relationship with the truth. You just cannot take anything they say seriously.

    Who the FUCK SAID HES BLACK, SO HE LIE, BUT FOR 300 YEARS WHITE MEN RAPED BLACK WOMEN AND TOLD THE BLACK WOMEN TO SHUT UP, OR LIE ABOUT IT UNTIL THE BABIES CAME OUT MIXED… PREJUDICED MOTHERFUCKERS.. WE ALL LIE

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