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Commenter Svigor writes:

I hope I live to see the rise of “journometrics:” fine-grained and wide-ranging statistics on how these humanities majors do their work. Media reach scores, time spent on x vs. y measured down to the second, biometric analysis of emphasis and characterization, physical models of a story’s impact, dictionalysis etc.

 
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  1. The Bezos WaPo is kinda headed in that direction.

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    • Replies: @aer
    Bezos is just a technocrat. Marty Baron is still publishing a steady stream of virulent anti-white articles. The latest one being the piece attacking white people for reacting to the anti-white hatecrime on FB live.

    Bezos is the worst kind of white person. Rich, but deracinated. The agenda stays the same. He only profits from the clicks that is generated by the hate spewed by WaPo.

    Jews have a name for such people among their own: kapos. But the difference is that kapos did what they did under great distress. Bezos does it for pure greed.

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  2. Newspaper employment is collapsing.

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    Good, I hope it hits 0
    , @MBlanc46
    And yet they insist on committing political suicide.
    , @SFG
    He's cheating a little with the y-axis not starting at 0, but he is basically right, newspapers are crashing as people get their news online without paying for it.

    Investigative reporting still does need to get done, though--aggregator sites like Breitbart and Drudge mostly cite articles from traditional newspapers. Maybe it'll just get crowdsourced by guys with cellphone cameras?

    , @Anonym
    That is such a beautiful graph! My schadenfreude boner level is basically the reverse of this graph starting at 1992. I like seeing the leftist cultural monopoly being disempowered piece by piece. That graph is not even per capita, per capita it would look even better!

    Maybe per capita white people would not change it much. Are all the newly minted Americans big readers of newspapers in English? One would think that as a result they would be rabidly anti-bilingual education but no, modern media ownership is all about milking a dying cow for whatever influence it once yielded over its aging circulation.

    It seems to me that for an industry in this kind of shape, they cannot afford to alienate readers by bashing white people constantly, and yet that's exactly what they've done. One just has to look at the number of downvotes on the recent MTV anti-white haranguing, and the number of subscribers on their news channel. No one wants to read it or watch it, let alone pay money for it. You might generate clicks or comments via the JC Dvorak model, but does it sell papers? I doubt it. I respond to people who are trying to hawk me a product that actively propagandizes against me by refusing to buy their product unless I have absolutely no alternative.

    Even back in the 1990s when an NYT telemarketer called me to ask me to subscribe, I was like "What's the value proposition here? I already get the news I want to read from sites like WND, why would I want to pay to read leftist propaganda when I can read the campus newspaper for free?". It seems like I was something of an early adopter by 20 years in that regard.
    , @Verymuchalive
    As a result of The Telecommunications Act of 1996, 6 mega-companies now control 90% of American media outlets. Thank you, Bill Clinton.
    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34789-democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications -act
    This is the very epitome of oligopoly. Not very surprisingly, These oligopolists returned the favour by uniformly supporting Hillary Clinton, the wife of Bill, for the Presidency and maligning her opponent, Donald Trump, relentlessly. The present situation is an affront to a free society.
    Mr Trump must make it one of his first policies to get the act repealed and proper competition reinstated. He might look at the original Telecommunications Act of 1934 for guidance. Cross Holdings must be banned. The number of newspapers, radio, TV stations etc that each company can control must be drastically reduced. Companies must be broken up, forcibly if need be.
    This is Trump's Teddy Roosevelt moment. As Roosevelt put John D. Rockefeller in his place, this is the time for Donald Trump to put Carlos Slim and Keith Rupert Murdoch in their places.
    Also, it's in Trump's own interests. Break up these companies and at least some of the newly independent outlets will be pro-Trump.
    , @Boomstick
    The interesting question is what replaces newspapers as a source of public sentiment. Lets say every regional paper gets nuked, and the majors are on life support. What drives the public discussion of issues in that environment?

    Maybe Hollywood or entertainment, which is not better for conservatives, probably. Imagine immigration policy if the ideological framing for the issue is episodes of "Law and Order" or Trevor Noah.
    , @Reginald Maplethorp
    It seems like a lot of responders are saying "to hell with the newspapers!"

    Yet iSteve readers probably want more local jobs and care about their communities. National newspapers like the NYT often regurgitate the diligent reporting of local reporters that (liberal or not) care about their communities and do a lot of legwork, such as record requests from local agencies.

    I want regional newspapers to succeed because the alternative is clickbait sites regurgitating fact-free social media hullabaloo. I'd prefer that smart young people go to work for a good local paper instead of moving to a coastal city to work for BuzzFeed or some other clickbait site.

    The decline in newspaper employment is another effect of the parasitic globalist agenda. One needs only to look at recent WaPo scandals to see how badly this works out in the long run.

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  3. @JohnnyWalker123
    Newspaper employment is collapsing.

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/809237663786160128

    Good, I hope it hits 0

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  4. Bleuteaux says:

    As a discipline of the dismal science, I would love new economic statistics. Or example, instead of unemployment or even employment to population ratio, what is the percentage of FT private sector jobs as a percent of the overall population (would not include health care, etc). Or what percent of the adult population of any given town hold private sector, full time jobs compared to 50 years ago. Here in the rust belt I bet it’s gone from 45 or 50% of adults to be 15% or so for the average town.

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    new economic statistics...
     
    Let's also start measuring how much income is from direct gov't subsidy: not only the alphabet soup of TANF, etc, but also earned income tax credit, certain parts of pensions-disability-work comp, write-offs at the emergency room, etc.
    , @JackOH
    Bleuteaux, good points. I live in a busted-up Rust Belt area. Some weeks ago I saw a published list of my area's largest employers, and something like 13 of 16, or thereabouts, were government, education, or health care.

    My background is private sector. I helped found a small ad agency and made it grow. These days I'm semi-retired, and an insider-observer of our local Podunk Tech. Long story short--the rent-seeking nastiness, lard-assedness, and occasional complete indifference to the tax-paying constituents, tuition-paying students, and bill-paying patients boggles my mind. Plus, add corruption.
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  5. whorefinder says: • Website

    What’s odd is that as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old “buggy whip” rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat. The name comes from when automobiles replaced horses; this naturally and gradually reduced the need for whips for horse-drawn buggies/carriages. The last buggy whip manufacturers, allegedly, had the best buggy-whips you’d ever seen.

    But newspapers and TV news have become more slipshod and more biased as the internet has eaten away at their profit lines. Or perhaps the bias and poor journalism (the two are not necessarily the same) are just more obvious now that we have both bloggers at events contradicting official narratives and video cameras and cameras in every pocket, leading to direct evidence of either crimes being misreported or crimes being wholesale covered up by the corporate media.

    Perhaps we are still in the disruption phase of the market collapse, where the collapse hasn’t yet destroyed all the subpar buggy whip manufacturers.

    Or, perhaps, we are merely reverting to the mean for journalism, where journalists deliver sensationalized stories for a small segment of the population that shares the journalists political sentiments. Certainly in the past most newspapers had open political biases and were often funded by local politicians as their mouthpieces; what’s more, yellow journalism is nothing new, as William Randolph Hearst proved by starting the Spanish-American War almost single-handedly.

    Or, perhaps, like most economic theories, the buggy whip rule is bunk.

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    as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old “buggy whip” rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat
     
    Perhaps it's just a matter of properly defining the "product" in the context of the newspaper and TV news businesses, as entertainment rather than news?

    Then of course there's the complication that in this industry unlike general manufacturing, for the owners the primary goal is not generally profit but rather political influence, power and status.
    , @27 year old
    I think you have all the right pieces but haven't connected the dots. It's reversion to the old style of openly biased reporting for openly biased people and it's also the buggy rule which is that only the best biased reporting (most narrative-y) is hanging on. You forgot to define "quality" which is why the situation seems confusing.
    , @Anonym
    No, what is happening is a paradigm shift. Typical of paradigm shifts in the sciences, older people don't change their views but just retire and die off naturally. But unlike the road situation, you don't have cars traveling at speed scaring the horses and driving them off the road, effectively. The press aren't being forced off the road so much as their baby boomer/silent generation readership are being lulled off to sleep with their anti-white fairy tales like the old guy in Soylent Green, with nothing to replace that famous pig in a python demographic.

    See the following graph:

    http://newsosaur.blogspot.com/2013/01/newspaper-audience-aged-severely-since.html?m=1

    Ironically, it seems that the top news sources for young viewers at least in 2012 were the lefty/establishment ones. However, I don't see much difference in terms of political slant over the last ten years except more SJWism, so I would tend to doubt that the SJWism is a conscious effort to reach a younger audience for a profit motive, but just a symptom of the modern left.

    https://sites.tufts.edu/caitlinjosephcommunicates/files/2016/01/news-media-demographics.png

    , @Bill
    You aren't the customer. You can tell by the fact that you don't pay more than a token fee. Advertisers can target particular demographics via media much, much better than they used to be able to.
    , @NOTA
    One difference is how you buy news--it's not a finished product you buy (where maybe they're pushing hard on the quality to compete with the upstart new technology). Instead, you buy access to the next year's stream of news reporting from the NYT. Producing that news costs the same whether it's read by ten people or a million. As the number of subscribers drops, the money with which to produce quality news drops. You can see this--lots of newspapers used to have foreign bureaus, but had to close them.

    One other difference--it's not clear most people ever really were buying news--the popular features got eyeballs which got ads, and the hard news was cross-subsidized. (Though maybe that's like buggy whips--most people probably wanted the ride rather than the whip.).
    , @guest
    Other posters have pointed this out, but let me reiterate. You must define your product. The buggy-whip industry was probably a lot more complex than we remember it, but it is ultimately pretty easily definable. People wanted whips that did a good job driving buggies, or made them look cool driving buggies, made them look cool in general, or maybe just made them feel good in general. Let's take for granted the last great wave of buggy-whips did all of the above better, or more efficiently, than ever before.

    What makes for good newspapers and tv news? The answer is probably less tied to verifiable reality than the buggy-whip. Quality reporting? Sufficiently subtle bias? Hard-hitting, deep-digging, whatever? I don't know. Entertainment, feeling informed, feeling tied to your in-group, giving you the means to virtue-signal, whatever. All of the above.

    But there's also a purpose to the news that has nothing to do with news or the desires of the reading and viewing public. It's a means of propaganda. It's a means of access to politics and various parts of culture. It's intellectual make-work. It's a vehicle for business interests. It's many things besides the things it superficially is.

    That could have been true of the buggy-whip industry as well, I wouldn't know. But newsmedia is uniquely set up to get what you want in a society governed as much as ours is by making people think a certain way. If your aim is to win political power, say, tell the ruling class what to think, push Big Money in a certain direction, etc., the NYT is perhaps better than ever equipped to do it for you.
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  6. benjaminl says:
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    Boo to you for that link:

    "It is such an important problem that it deserves a stronger science..."
     
    Really, implicit bias such an important problem?
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  7. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    They are called Whornalists know.

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  8. MBlanc46 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Newspaper employment is collapsing.

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/809237663786160128

    And yet they insist on committing political suicide.

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  9. SFG says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Newspaper employment is collapsing.

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/809237663786160128

    He’s cheating a little with the y-axis not starting at 0, but he is basically right, newspapers are crashing as people get their news online without paying for it.

    Investigative reporting still does need to get done, though–aggregator sites like Breitbart and Drudge mostly cite articles from traditional newspapers. Maybe it’ll just get crowdsourced by guys with cellphone cameras?

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    This is an important question. We should be willing to donate to people like our host, Robert Stacy McCain and even Michael Tracey if they need it to cover the sorts of stories we want covered. The future is the personal platform, not the one the paper gives you. The best will be independent - if you're good, people will read you whether you work at the Post, the NYT or the Newark Star-Ledger. Understand though, that words are cheap. Plenty of people are willing to opine for free; therefore the ones who get my dough to do it are likely the bestest of the best.

    Not exactly a field you'd recommend to your kids.
    , @guest
    Not exactly a secret, but journalists have always been heavily reliant upon sources. Most "investigative journalism" is just a series of sources, plus some fact-finding. Wikileaks and James O'Keefe did a better job getting sources than the rest of the media combined in the presidential election. We have no dearth of raw material getting out there. On the bringing it together and telling us what to think about it front, Steve is as good as any Woodward.

    What they lack is: fact-checking, which who cares, the legacy media gets wrong all the time; editing, again, who cares, the legacy media is atrocious reading,. This is more than made up for by the absence of political and corporate overseers.

    There are investigative journalists I've read and liked, but come on. They aren't cranking out Seymour Hershes. Mostly the industry is a sewer. They've been playing tunes called by the state, Big Business, and the ruling intellectual class since forever. I am perfectly comfortable getting stupider, more raw news.

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  10. Whiskey says: • Website

    Clickbait journalism can’t compete with Drudge’s simple story of some poor retarded White guy being tortured on Facebook live by a bunch of Black people who speak apparently not a word of English.

    Every White Dude figures that could be them, caught out alone, unguarded, unwary. Every White dude figures if they are honest with themselves that Blacks are a threat, even Black women and girls. That if Blacks would do that to a helpless retarded White person, what would they do to them?

    That’s a raw emotional stimulation by the raw story, unfiltered by polite evasions and lies to protect Blacks as sacred GoodWhite totems of sanctity. One that the Media cannot compete with. At all.

    Of course the flipside is that every White UMC and Professional women looks at the sadism involved particularly on some helpless White dude who is retarded and disabled and gets all tingly. Its the Bath Salts version of Fifty Shades of Gray, no billionaire sadist but plenty of cruelty and domination. Better than dinosaur pr0n or werewolves for sure.

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    Maybe, but I doubt that those 4 guys (apparently two are women, but I am not sure which) would get anyone tingly... Seriously, among the ugliest people I've ever saw.

    http://abc7chicago.com/news/4-charged-with-hate-crimes-in-torture-of-teen-in-facebook-live-video/1687517/
    , @mobi

    Of course the flipside is that every White UMC and Professional women looks at the sadism involved particularly on some helpless White dude who is retarded and disabled and gets all tingly. Its the Bath Salts version of Fifty Shades of Gray, no billionaire sadist but plenty of cruelty and domination. Better than dinosaur pr0n or werewolves for sure.
     
    White women vote for Trump: 53%

    Jewish vote for Trump: 24%

    Honestly, 'Whiskey', who do you still think you're fooling?

    You can do better. Yes, you can.
    , @whorefinder
    When the Left destroyed white ethnic neighborhoods beginning in the 1950s they deliberately destroyed a lot of the "rapid response" forces that whites would have deployed to punish blacks for this horror.
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  11. Ivy says:

    O/T ABC is showing the Menendez brothers. Is their dad a proxy for Fred Trump, or for Donald? Either one seems unrealistic, but these days there may be more angles in the programming and messaging.

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    Moral of the Menendez brothers story, according to Rush Limbaugh just after the trial: no women on the jury when the accused is a stud.
    , @guest
    I don't know if it was as specific as that, though there may have been Hidden Messages I missed. They mentioned Jose Menendez was an immigrant, which if he's also a monster and breeder of patricides/matricides, would speak in favor of Trump's policies. But Cubans are "white Hispanics," and Jose was used as an example of overly strict, traditionalist, capitalist, Keeping Up with the Joneses, socially conscious, "what will the neighbors think," parentage.
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  12. Lagertha says:

    “Journometrics” whatever, is diametrically opposed to Twitter! I am so enjoying the: “Donald shouldn’t be allowed to Tweet/take his Twitter account away!”; and, the continuous, odious whining by “progressives,” today, the gnashing of teeth, for the last few days.

    I find it ironic that the spirit/definition of the ole’ Move On.org is falling on deaf ears. Russia, checkmate. Watching everyone in the USA, furiously, trying to “box in” Trump is just the icing on the cake for Putin. Seriously, the USA (the so-called progressives) are “killing their own babies” at this point. Stop the insanity!

    My big wish for New Year: could we stop labeling people (Hitleresque/Fascist/Racist/white privileged, low-class losers)? – some of these people are family members (strictly speaking about “progressives”), btw, you might just have had an awkward, or downright shitty holiday dinner with them; this, this is more directed to the “progressives” who snoop around here.

    Could we (being generous toward the Progs, again), stop insinuating that we know exactly what Trump will do?…what his supposed minions will do? Shit, we can impeach him if he winds up being a crazy-wildass guy. BTW, I’m not scared of Trump. I get him. And as many of you know, I voted for Obama in the past.

    So sick of the anger, vitriol, slimyness, world-class bullshit, world-class superciliousness of the so-called, progressives – they better cut it out or they will never, never ever, win the presidency ever again. Like I said months ago/a year ago or more: Russia and China are laughing at us, and our squabbles, about who is more virtuous. Sheesh: everyone needs to go back and read the Bronte sisters or Shakespeare to learn about faith, loyalty, fealty. Move On.org should be a mantra for “progressives” to wake up to.

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    Russia and China are laughing at us
     
    I am not so sure about that, as America gets ever more unhinged, the willingness to seek ever more dangerous foreign adventures to try create distractions from domestic troubles will increase.

    Russians should be especially scared, as hostility to all things white increases, so will Russia increasingly become a target, the alliance of the war hawks and the SJW left against Russia will become increasingly more willing to push for war (I have come across a disturbing number of opinion pieces arguing that nuclear war is not that deadly). China is a bit safer, because if some Chinese in America protested against people such as McCain that he was racist against China, he will fold in no time.

    Even if America erupted into full scale civil war, it will be a big concern to outsiders. Who would gain control the nuclear weapons would be unclear, the danger is that one faction could use them on Russia or China, blaming them for supporting another faction in the civil war.

    , @Kylie
    "So sick of the anger, vitriol, slimyness, world-class bullshit, world-class superciliousness of the so-called, progressives – they better cut it out or they will never, never ever, win the presidency ever again."

    Delicious thought.

    I hope the progressives never stop of their own volition. As sick as I am of their smug arrogance, ignorance and slimy vitriol, I realize a lot of people aren't yet fully aware of it. So I hope the progs continue to double down until every decent, sane person is as sick of them as we are.

    Progs have done incalculable damage to Western civilization just in my lifetime. I wish only the worst on them. All of them.
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  13. Svigor says:

    I got the idea from Jim Bowery, over at MR. He said something about how interesting it would be to set Artificial Intelligence to analyzing news media product, to use it to pin them down on language. Sounded capital.

    Clickbait journalism can’t compete with Drudge’s simple story of some poor retarded White guy being tortured on Facebook live by a bunch of Black people who speak apparently not a word of English.

    Every White Dude figures that could be them, caught out alone, unguarded, unwary. Every White dude figures if they are honest with themselves that Blacks are a threat, even Black women and girls. That if Blacks would do that to a helpless retarded White person, what would they do to them?

    Well, unless they live in a jurisdiction that respects the right to self-defense, AKA red states. Then they can carry and not sweat it. If not, there are other extremely useful implements that can be had for $25.

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    I got all excited that Jim Bowery was back at MR. But, no, I don't see anything from him since 2013. He has his own blog, but he seems to have comments turned off which kind of sucks.
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  14. Anonym says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Newspaper employment is collapsing.

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/809237663786160128

    That is such a beautiful graph! My schadenfreude boner level is basically the reverse of this graph starting at 1992. I like seeing the leftist cultural monopoly being disempowered piece by piece. That graph is not even per capita, per capita it would look even better!

    Maybe per capita white people would not change it much. Are all the newly minted Americans big readers of newspapers in English? One would think that as a result they would be rabidly anti-bilingual education but no, modern media ownership is all about milking a dying cow for whatever influence it once yielded over its aging circulation.

    It seems to me that for an industry in this kind of shape, they cannot afford to alienate readers by bashing white people constantly, and yet that’s exactly what they’ve done. One just has to look at the number of downvotes on the recent MTV anti-white haranguing, and the number of subscribers on their news channel. No one wants to read it or watch it, let alone pay money for it. You might generate clicks or comments via the JC Dvorak model, but does it sell papers? I doubt it. I respond to people who are trying to hawk me a product that actively propagandizes against me by refusing to buy their product unless I have absolutely no alternative.

    Even back in the 1990s when an NYT telemarketer called me to ask me to subscribe, I was like “What’s the value proposition here? I already get the news I want to read from sites like WND, why would I want to pay to read leftist propaganda when I can read the campus newspaper for free?”. It seems like I was something of an early adopter by 20 years in that regard.

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    "Newspaper jobs" has an arbitrary component as newspapers too transition to the internet. This particular metric, whatever it represents, started its plunge in '92, but there was no discernible slip for the Clown World paradigm of the MSM until 2015 (mostly reflecting, but not caused by, the Trumpening).

    They're down, but far from beaten.

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  15. Anonym says:

    And Svigor, you know that any journometrics will just be twisted to compare something like coverage of the latest Free Mumia campaign vs Trump coverage. I would expect as much integrity with the social science as was found in “The Authoritarian Personality”.

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  16. Jefferson says:

    The Chinese city of Guangzhou has a large African immigrant population. If a bunch of African immigrants in Guangzhou had kidnapped a mentally handicapped Chinese guy and tortured him and put the video on China’s version of Facebook which is called Renren, I wonder if the Chinese government would have given the African immigrants the death penalty? I don’t think accusations of anti-Black racism from The U.S and The United Nations would deter the Chinese goverment from frying the African immigrants because the Chinese government feel no White guilt.

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    • Replies: @Truth
    Nobody "kidnapped" anyone. This was high school theatre with actors, as is literally every international news story.

    It's called television PROGRAMMING, N....!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edHm_JGx2wc
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  17. wren says:

    OT: Scott Adams today said “It is the start of rebranding America as a new and better version of itself, and one in which Americans take care of their own before taking care of the rest of the world.”

    He is also brainstorming today on how to encourage affordable family formation through technology.

    Citizenism may yet have its day in the sun!

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    "Citizenism may yet have its day in the sun!"

    That would be a dark day indeed. I hope it never comes.

    Steve Sailer is so dazzlingly bright that I sometimes try to imagine how and why he is. Yet he has this huge blind spot of continuing to be too forbearing towards groups and individuals utterly undeserving of it.

    Anecdotal evidence but as far as I know, the four savages who abducted and tortured that retarded man are all American citizens.
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  18. neutral says:
    @Lagertha
    "Journometrics" whatever, is diametrically opposed to Twitter! I am so enjoying the: "Donald shouldn't be allowed to Tweet/take his Twitter account away!"; and, the continuous, odious whining by "progressives," today, the gnashing of teeth, for the last few days.

    I find it ironic that the spirit/definition of the ole' Move On.org is falling on deaf ears. Russia, checkmate. Watching everyone in the USA, furiously, trying to "box in" Trump is just the icing on the cake for Putin. Seriously, the USA (the so-called progressives) are "killing their own babies" at this point. Stop the insanity!

    My big wish for New Year: could we stop labeling people (Hitleresque/Fascist/Racist/white privileged, low-class losers)? - some of these people are family members (strictly speaking about "progressives"), btw, you might just have had an awkward, or downright shitty holiday dinner with them; this, this is more directed to the "progressives" who snoop around here.

    Could we (being generous toward the Progs, again), stop insinuating that we know exactly what Trump will do?...what his supposed minions will do? Shit, we can impeach him if he winds up being a crazy-wildass guy. BTW, I'm not scared of Trump. I get him. And as many of you know, I voted for Obama in the past.

    So sick of the anger, vitriol, slimyness, world-class bullshit, world-class superciliousness of the so-called, progressives - they better cut it out or they will never, never ever, win the presidency ever again. Like I said months ago/a year ago or more: Russia and China are laughing at us, and our squabbles, about who is more virtuous. Sheesh: everyone needs to go back and read the Bronte sisters or Shakespeare to learn about faith, loyalty, fealty. Move On.org should be a mantra for "progressives" to wake up to.

    Russia and China are laughing at us

    I am not so sure about that, as America gets ever more unhinged, the willingness to seek ever more dangerous foreign adventures to try create distractions from domestic troubles will increase.

    Russians should be especially scared, as hostility to all things white increases, so will Russia increasingly become a target, the alliance of the war hawks and the SJW left against Russia will become increasingly more willing to push for war (I have come across a disturbing number of opinion pieces arguing that nuclear war is not that deadly). China is a bit safer, because if some Chinese in America protested against people such as McCain that he was racist against China, he will fold in no time.

    Even if America erupted into full scale civil war, it will be a big concern to outsiders. Who would gain control the nuclear weapons would be unclear, the danger is that one faction could use them on Russia or China, blaming them for supporting another faction in the civil war.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Its almost certainly not possible to start a war on Russia without bringing in China, for what it is worth, or vice versa. The two are allied in all but name.

    That said, Hillary seemed very intent on provoking that war, reaffirming evidence that she was more interested in starting than finishing wars on a successful basis. There was nontrivial concern in Beijing during the election that a nuclear shock & awe campaign was in the plans when it looked like she was going to be president.

    , @Lagertha
    you are right...scary. Just yesterday, Clapper started hedging on the semantics of an "act of war" comment...saying, "it does not mean to go to war," or something like that. It's almost like what you suggested: SJW's/war hawks seem to be attracted to each other. Attracted in a really creepy way right now. I guess my feeling is that China together with Russia will squash those ambitions. Russia has actively pursued a relationship with China these last several years. Plus, who knows when China will start making it clear to war hawks or SJW's that they just want a peaceful world where everyone keeps buying their stuff they ship- we live; we work; we buy; we die, kinda' thing.

    My fear about the "small, manageable nuclear war" in the Baltics/Georgia/Armenia was due to the glib chatter I also picked up about the "degree of nuclear deadliness". So, yes noticed the cavalier attitude, too.

    I feel like computer sci & engineering students are shaking their heads over this droning on and on about hacking....I mean, weren't there a myriad retail stores whose customer's personal info was hacked going back years; Target?

    There was no "soviet mind control," to force people to vote for Trump in the booth. All the Millennials get this; this is why they despise Boomers and anyone older. The majority of Millennial guys voted for Bernie or Trump...or didn't vote. But, if there is a growing trend towards nuclear confrontation, then they are not gonna sit around the sidelines. Anti nuclear war protests will emerge again, after what? about 40 years?

    My hope is: the more the Russian hacking thing is pushed by Americans, the more the Millennials call bs and sense the corruption of the legislators/govt operatives/pundits/media. Young men in particular, will turn on anyone continuing to sell this hacking thing - it's sort of boring already, especially since the hearings are not bringing in the hilarity of Wiener's dic pics :)! And, after all, they would be most of the soldiers.

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  19. Dumbo says:
    @Whiskey
    Clickbait journalism can't compete with Drudge's simple story of some poor retarded White guy being tortured on Facebook live by a bunch of Black people who speak apparently not a word of English.

    Every White Dude figures that could be them, caught out alone, unguarded, unwary. Every White dude figures if they are honest with themselves that Blacks are a threat, even Black women and girls. That if Blacks would do that to a helpless retarded White person, what would they do to them?

    That's a raw emotional stimulation by the raw story, unfiltered by polite evasions and lies to protect Blacks as sacred GoodWhite totems of sanctity. One that the Media cannot compete with. At all.

    Of course the flipside is that every White UMC and Professional women looks at the sadism involved particularly on some helpless White dude who is retarded and disabled and gets all tingly. Its the Bath Salts version of Fifty Shades of Gray, no billionaire sadist but plenty of cruelty and domination. Better than dinosaur pr0n or werewolves for sure.

    Maybe, but I doubt that those 4 guys (apparently two are women, but I am not sure which) would get anyone tingly… Seriously, among the ugliest people I’ve ever saw.

    http://abc7chicago.com/news/4-charged-with-hate-crimes-in-torture-of-teen-in-facebook-live-video/1687517/

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    It's the idea that gets them tingly, not the actual image of them. Like the idea of Obama, who when you look closely isn't cool but rather nerdy and distinctly "white."
    , @whorefinder
    If you still think women's primary attraction point is a man's looks, you're not paying attention.

    Show a woman a man in power who is dominating and overwhelming, and she'll make up excuses about how he looks.
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  20. Randal says:
    @whorefinder
    What's odd is that as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old "buggy whip" rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat. The name comes from when automobiles replaced horses; this naturally and gradually reduced the need for whips for horse-drawn buggies/carriages. The last buggy whip manufacturers, allegedly, had the best buggy-whips you'd ever seen.

    But newspapers and TV news have become more slipshod and more biased as the internet has eaten away at their profit lines. Or perhaps the bias and poor journalism (the two are not necessarily the same) are just more obvious now that we have both bloggers at events contradicting official narratives and video cameras and cameras in every pocket, leading to direct evidence of either crimes being misreported or crimes being wholesale covered up by the corporate media.

    Perhaps we are still in the disruption phase of the market collapse, where the collapse hasn't yet destroyed all the subpar buggy whip manufacturers.

    Or, perhaps, we are merely reverting to the mean for journalism, where journalists deliver sensationalized stories for a small segment of the population that shares the journalists political sentiments. Certainly in the past most newspapers had open political biases and were often funded by local politicians as their mouthpieces; what's more, yellow journalism is nothing new, as William Randolph Hearst proved by starting the Spanish-American War almost single-handedly.

    Or, perhaps, like most economic theories, the buggy whip rule is bunk.

    as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old “buggy whip” rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat

    Perhaps it’s just a matter of properly defining the “product” in the context of the newspaper and TV news businesses, as entertainment rather than news?

    Then of course there’s the complication that in this industry unlike general manufacturing, for the owners the primary goal is not generally profit but rather political influence, power and status.

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  21. @SFG
    He's cheating a little with the y-axis not starting at 0, but he is basically right, newspapers are crashing as people get their news online without paying for it.

    Investigative reporting still does need to get done, though--aggregator sites like Breitbart and Drudge mostly cite articles from traditional newspapers. Maybe it'll just get crowdsourced by guys with cellphone cameras?

    This is an important question. We should be willing to donate to people like our host, Robert Stacy McCain and even Michael Tracey if they need it to cover the sorts of stories we want covered. The future is the personal platform, not the one the paper gives you. The best will be independent – if you’re good, people will read you whether you work at the Post, the NYT or the Newark Star-Ledger. Understand though, that words are cheap. Plenty of people are willing to opine for free; therefore the ones who get my dough to do it are likely the bestest of the best.

    Not exactly a field you’d recommend to your kids.

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    Not exactly a field you’d recommend to your kids.

    Yeah, all you've got to do is be a national merit scholar, and implore your readers to help you buy a kitchen or the like every quarter. No pressure, no pressure!

    Heck, the kids moving to LA looking for a career in Hollywood have more realistic expectations of success than the aspiring professional blogger. We are lucky that our idealistic host had no experience or qualifications in market research before deciding to plunge ahead in such a career. What's that you say?

    "I would buy these products."
    , @Matthew Kelly
    Yeah, the investigative-type reporters will be required, which often costs money and requires a good deal of nerve and discipline. Which makes me wonder what role organizations like Project Veritas will have in the future: Will most, if not all, journalism not provided by idiots posting their crime sprees to Facebook live feeds originate from organizations and individuals going undercover to dig up dirt on their business, political, or personal rivals?
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  22. bomag says:
    @Bleuteaux
    As a discipline of the dismal science, I would love new economic statistics. Or example, instead of unemployment or even employment to population ratio, what is the percentage of FT private sector jobs as a percent of the overall population (would not include health care, etc). Or what percent of the adult population of any given town hold private sector, full time jobs compared to 50 years ago. Here in the rust belt I bet it's gone from 45 or 50% of adults to be 15% or so for the average town.

    new economic statistics…

    Let’s also start measuring how much income is from direct gov’t subsidy: not only the alphabet soup of TANF, etc, but also earned income tax credit, certain parts of pensions-disability-work comp, write-offs at the emergency room, etc.

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    Yeah, another interesting thing would be how large is the subsidized sector of the economy. Alan Tonelson written a bit on this. You can even think of it in layers. Most direct subsidized would be education, healthcare. Then you get military contractors, construction contractors.

    Really, if you want to get depressed, pretty much everything above retail sales is subsidized by government. I work in large equipment manufacturing and we have some of the most legendarily subsidized customers in US history...

    , @Jack Highlands
    How does 'Tax Freedom Day' (365 X total taxes/GDP) stack up? I guess one would at least have to add gov't interest payments to taxes.
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  23. @whorefinder
    What's odd is that as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old "buggy whip" rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat. The name comes from when automobiles replaced horses; this naturally and gradually reduced the need for whips for horse-drawn buggies/carriages. The last buggy whip manufacturers, allegedly, had the best buggy-whips you'd ever seen.

    But newspapers and TV news have become more slipshod and more biased as the internet has eaten away at their profit lines. Or perhaps the bias and poor journalism (the two are not necessarily the same) are just more obvious now that we have both bloggers at events contradicting official narratives and video cameras and cameras in every pocket, leading to direct evidence of either crimes being misreported or crimes being wholesale covered up by the corporate media.

    Perhaps we are still in the disruption phase of the market collapse, where the collapse hasn't yet destroyed all the subpar buggy whip manufacturers.

    Or, perhaps, we are merely reverting to the mean for journalism, where journalists deliver sensationalized stories for a small segment of the population that shares the journalists political sentiments. Certainly in the past most newspapers had open political biases and were often funded by local politicians as their mouthpieces; what's more, yellow journalism is nothing new, as William Randolph Hearst proved by starting the Spanish-American War almost single-handedly.

    Or, perhaps, like most economic theories, the buggy whip rule is bunk.

    I think you have all the right pieces but haven’t connected the dots. It’s reversion to the old style of openly biased reporting for openly biased people and it’s also the buggy rule which is that only the best biased reporting (most narrative-y) is hanging on. You forgot to define “quality” which is why the situation seems confusing.

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    Good point on "quality." My guess is the last buggy whips were just the damned gaudiest that had ever been seen.

    PS: Does a young person stay 27 forever if it's always the current year?
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  24. Thea says:

    Via oz conservative:

    Culture in which all truth is relative suddenly concerned with fake news:

    http://babylonbee.com/news/culture-truth-relative-suddenly-concerned-fake-news/

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  25. aer says:
    @anonitron1
    The Bezos WaPo is kinda headed in that direction.

    Bezos is just a technocrat. Marty Baron is still publishing a steady stream of virulent anti-white articles. The latest one being the piece attacking white people for reacting to the anti-white hatecrime on FB live.

    Bezos is the worst kind of white person. Rich, but deracinated. The agenda stays the same. He only profits from the clicks that is generated by the hate spewed by WaPo.

    Jews have a name for such people among their own: kapos. But the difference is that kapos did what they did under great distress. Bezos does it for pure greed.

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  26. Bleuteaux says:
    @bomag

    new economic statistics...
     
    Let's also start measuring how much income is from direct gov't subsidy: not only the alphabet soup of TANF, etc, but also earned income tax credit, certain parts of pensions-disability-work comp, write-offs at the emergency room, etc.

    Yeah, another interesting thing would be how large is the subsidized sector of the economy. Alan Tonelson written a bit on this. You can even think of it in layers. Most direct subsidized would be education, healthcare. Then you get military contractors, construction contractors.

    Really, if you want to get depressed, pretty much everything above retail sales is subsidized by government. I work in large equipment manufacturing and we have some of the most legendarily subsidized customers in US history…

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    It's because we are an empire, and that's what empires are like. Rome gets the tribute and then distributes it to its clients arrayed in a bunch of concentric circles around. Rome was honest about things---they just demanded tribute. With the US, we exchange eventually-to-be-defaulted-upon treasury securities for the tribute.

    Even when you look at the things it looks like we make and export to the world, many of those are because empire. Weapons, Hollywood, and management consulting. Would people be interested in buying these things from us if we were not the hyperpower? Doubtful.
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  27. This is slightly off topic I think but you might find it an interesting addendum. I wrote something about this some time ago. I was running a quant research team at a well known hedge fund and met with Reuters to talk about their news process and how they could make it more appealing to hedge funds for monetization. I told them, and they ignored me.

    http://freenj.blogspot.com/2016/07/trouble-with-journalists.html

    The main problem with them is their profound laziness. They have no interest in exposing their process to quantification because they will then no longer be able to hide that fact.

    I’ve had some practical experience in AI problem solving. For a long time now I’ve believed it’s perfectly possible to build an process that could realistically predict what the business ‘news’ would be tomorrow, and to expose it as a TV program on something like Fox Business news that tells you the various odds on (business) events which hasn’t yet happened. Closer odds on near events, and progressively longer odds on events, further in the future.

    Most business events aren’t that unexpected, and there are tons of people out there who do nothing but build those odds for the big banks and hedge funds. I had the contacts to get access to that information, and the right kind of tool to convince them to allow us to anonymously aggregate it, track it’s accuracy, and make corrections.

    I even tried to persuade some media people I know to get me access to a partner who had the connections to let me pitch it to the network. “Tomorrow’s News Today” would have been a real pitch.

    Regrettably, it never happened.

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    That was interesting. Thanks.

    At some point in the last 15 years, I floated the idea to acquaintences of a different kind of newspaper: no headlines and every day the same content. Basically, just updated statistics with trend graphs, etc. Instead of Trayvon Martin being a national circus, he would have just been a blip on a gun death chart.

    Nobody I mentioned this to liked my idea. However, in a day of dying newspapers, social media, and AI, I think you could produce this kind of thing and circumvent primary reporters. It would be a source of content for people like Steve, whom people would actually read.

    And news like presidential news conferences? Well, if you've watched "coffee with Scott Adams" on Periscope, you've got a model. Wouldn't you like to see President Trump live in his pyjamas every Friday morning?
    , @Autochthon
    I had all the correllary conversations with executives from Thomson Reuters about how to improve their products to actually be useful for those of us doing quantitative analysis of patents (prosecution, assignment, and litigation).

    They smiled and nodded but ignored me, too.

    I'm pleased to say several upstart competitors who did listen to people like me have since eaten their lunch in this area.

    Often no one wants to implement the other fellow's ideas, even if lucrative. It's a kind of irrational "not-invented-here" hubris, I suppose.
    , @NOTA
    For a lot of business news, if you can write a one-day-ahead predictor, you shouldn't be running a newspaper, you should be trading--after you end up owning the planet, you can set up whatever news services you choose.
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  28. @Anonym
    That is such a beautiful graph! My schadenfreude boner level is basically the reverse of this graph starting at 1992. I like seeing the leftist cultural monopoly being disempowered piece by piece. That graph is not even per capita, per capita it would look even better!

    Maybe per capita white people would not change it much. Are all the newly minted Americans big readers of newspapers in English? One would think that as a result they would be rabidly anti-bilingual education but no, modern media ownership is all about milking a dying cow for whatever influence it once yielded over its aging circulation.

    It seems to me that for an industry in this kind of shape, they cannot afford to alienate readers by bashing white people constantly, and yet that's exactly what they've done. One just has to look at the number of downvotes on the recent MTV anti-white haranguing, and the number of subscribers on their news channel. No one wants to read it or watch it, let alone pay money for it. You might generate clicks or comments via the JC Dvorak model, but does it sell papers? I doubt it. I respond to people who are trying to hawk me a product that actively propagandizes against me by refusing to buy their product unless I have absolutely no alternative.

    Even back in the 1990s when an NYT telemarketer called me to ask me to subscribe, I was like "What's the value proposition here? I already get the news I want to read from sites like WND, why would I want to pay to read leftist propaganda when I can read the campus newspaper for free?". It seems like I was something of an early adopter by 20 years in that regard.

    “Newspaper jobs” has an arbitrary component as newspapers too transition to the internet. This particular metric, whatever it represents, started its plunge in ’92, but there was no discernible slip for the Clown World paradigm of the MSM until 2015 (mostly reflecting, but not caused by, the Trumpening).

    They’re down, but far from beaten.

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    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.
    , @Boomstick
    It would be interesting to see the breakdown on reporter jobs vs printing and hardcopy delivery jobs.

    A better metric is probably ad revenue, and that's collapsing, too:

    https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/newspaper.jpg
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  29. @27 year old
    I think you have all the right pieces but haven't connected the dots. It's reversion to the old style of openly biased reporting for openly biased people and it's also the buggy rule which is that only the best biased reporting (most narrative-y) is hanging on. You forgot to define "quality" which is why the situation seems confusing.

    Good point on “quality.” My guess is the last buggy whips were just the damned gaudiest that had ever been seen.

    PS: Does a young person stay 27 forever if it’s always the current year?

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    Boss, I have some good news and some bad news.

    The good news is our market share is 100%.

    The bad news is we're only going to sell 1.
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  30. @bomag

    new economic statistics...
     
    Let's also start measuring how much income is from direct gov't subsidy: not only the alphabet soup of TANF, etc, but also earned income tax credit, certain parts of pensions-disability-work comp, write-offs at the emergency room, etc.

    How does ‘Tax Freedom Day’ (365 X total taxes/GDP) stack up? I guess one would at least have to add gov’t interest payments to taxes.

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  31. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Big media are no longer the gatekeepers of what information reaches the public. The internet has taken over that function as well as allowing people to communicate their views with a wide range of people regardless of geography. Big media is now for lazy people, passive consumers who read little or nothing of any value but just keep the tv on. They used to have foreign correspondents who were literate and would report from all the exotic and war torn parts of the globe. Newsreels were shown in movie theaters for an interested public. Now we have the neon-haired Megyn Kelly who was getting paid an astonishing $15M yearly for what exactly? Giving her opinion on everything as though she were a great oracle? I used to purchase and read three newspapers every day. Now, nothing, they have hardly any news and are too irritating to read. They’re just subsidized propaganda loudspeakers. Television has become a swamp of pornography unsuitable for viewing by anyone under twenty-one and too moronic for anyone over that age. As the technology of big media has advanced and their stations became more palatial the content has shrunk; garbage brought to you in high-def 3D.

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    • Replies: @Old fogey
    Hear! Hear! All true. The NYT can't even edit its prose correctly any more.
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  32. OT
    Trump will solve the migrant crisis by drafting them into the navy where they can put their raft-piloting skills to good use

    Here’s What Happened When Yahoo Finance Tweeted ‘Trump Wants a Much N–ger Navy’

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  33. carol says:

    Huh. I spent a summer in a newsroom as a paid intern in 1988. Average age was 36, all the guys had beards and the women were having their first babies. They all drove the same kind of cars, Toyotas, Saabs, old Volvos in neutral metallic colors.

    No one was overtly political but you got this feeling…one guy stuck his neck out and confessed he really, really hated child molesters. It was thing with him, you know.

    I never felt so cut off from the world as when I was in that place. You couldn’t just wander about looking for stories, or at least I couldn’t. The best stories came from stringers.

    After that I went with an IT company. The fast writing to deadline was good experience for proposals. After that I heard how newspaper business was tanking..heh..

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    Sometimes I think extreme political correctness was invented to drive conservative/apolitical liberal arts graduates out of the shrinking pool of white collar jobs for liberal arts graduates. PC really picked up in the 1990s when the graduate job market started to shrink due to technology changes and graduate over-supply.
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  34. @neutral

    Russia and China are laughing at us
     
    I am not so sure about that, as America gets ever more unhinged, the willingness to seek ever more dangerous foreign adventures to try create distractions from domestic troubles will increase.

    Russians should be especially scared, as hostility to all things white increases, so will Russia increasingly become a target, the alliance of the war hawks and the SJW left against Russia will become increasingly more willing to push for war (I have come across a disturbing number of opinion pieces arguing that nuclear war is not that deadly). China is a bit safer, because if some Chinese in America protested against people such as McCain that he was racist against China, he will fold in no time.

    Even if America erupted into full scale civil war, it will be a big concern to outsiders. Who would gain control the nuclear weapons would be unclear, the danger is that one faction could use them on Russia or China, blaming them for supporting another faction in the civil war.

    Its almost certainly not possible to start a war on Russia without bringing in China, for what it is worth, or vice versa. The two are allied in all but name.

    That said, Hillary seemed very intent on provoking that war, reaffirming evidence that she was more interested in starting than finishing wars on a successful basis. There was nontrivial concern in Beijing during the election that a nuclear shock & awe campaign was in the plans when it looked like she was going to be president.

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  35. snorlax says:

    Semi-OT: The New York Times can’t see race. http://imgur.com/a/YvH53

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  36. Anonym says:
    @Jack Highlands
    "Newspaper jobs" has an arbitrary component as newspapers too transition to the internet. This particular metric, whatever it represents, started its plunge in '92, but there was no discernible slip for the Clown World paradigm of the MSM until 2015 (mostly reflecting, but not caused by, the Trumpening).

    They're down, but far from beaten.

    What is “clown world paradigm”?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn’t happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here – did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

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    By 'Clown World' I simply mean the upside-down world of contemporary Leftism. It has become critically divorced from reality in every facet, from their failure to understand the rise of Trumpism from their own biases, to their idea that orchidopenectomy and estrogen make a woman out of a human with a Y chromosome in every somatic cell of his body. However, I suppose the root of it all is gene denial.
    , @dfordoom

    One question to the older readers here – did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump?
     
    In Australia at lest the media response to Reagan was just as hysterical as the response to Trump.

    The difference is that Reagan was portrayed as a crazed warmonger. Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing. These days it's generally seen as a good thing.
    , @Better Blue State and Red Than Dead
    Hey there - 54 year old here.

    I started college in the early '80s, and yes - the vituperative attacks against Reagan were insane. "He will nuke us all!!!". He will "put black people in camps!!!", etc.

    Some things never change. You had to be there, as it was pre-internets/webs.
    , @FPD72
    Trump was attacked by the media more than any presidential candidate during my lifetime. Second worst was Goldwater in 1964. Third was Reagan in 1980. The media hated Nixon and Johnson, but the attacks were more during their administrations, not as much during their campaigns. After all, Johnson ran against Goldwater, but it seemed as though the press turned on LBJ, mainly about Vietnam, the day after he crushed Goldwater in the election.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minutes
    "On August 11, 1984, United States President Ronald Reagan, while running for re-election, was preparing to make his weekly Saturday radio address on National Public Radio. During a sound check before the address, Reagan made the following joke to the radio technicians: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." The joke was a parody of the opening line of that day's speech"

    The usual suspects were horrified. Part of Reagan's act was to appear somewhat unbalanced and that scared the Commies.
    , @Bill
    It's a hard question to answer. The attacks on Trump certainly seemed less bad than those on Reagan to me. On the other hand, I don't consume all that much main-stream media any more. Back in 1980, the entire broadcast and almost the entire print media were lefty. There wasn't conservative talk radio (whatever you think of that medium). There wasn't the internet. So, back in 1980 probably the concentration of the toxin was lower, but the total volume was higher.

    Another aspect is the heterogeneity in dose. What I have replaced the MSM with in my media consumption is a variety of far-right stuff. What others have replaced it with is even more demented leftism. So, for some people, undoubtedly the total toxin delivered is higher. E.g., I can't imagine watching Rachel Maddow regularly. But there are people who do. Those people received a much higher dose of crazy-train, leftist hatred against Trump than they would have received against Reagan in the 1980.

    , @sayless
    Did the media/press advocate against Reagan

    Not as I recall. The leftwing bias was there but the establishment press really hated Carter so that may have dulled their knives a bit. 1984--no, no comparison.

    No presidential campaign in my lifetime has had such insane coverage. Standards absolutely evaporated, it's been a genuine shock.

    I attribute it to a decline in the public culture, including simple good manners, as the left has become more dominant and social conservatism has come under attack more and more. Conservatives are more likely to be courteous to their politically opposed acquaintances, IME.

    By the way, the 1980 campaign was the first in which a lot of column inches were devoted to what kind of images of themselves the candidates were trying to get across. Lots of analysis of TV ads, the sales technique was much more in the foreground, the strategy of the sa!es technique became as important as policy differences. It was striking, how different the coverage was to what it had been before.

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  37. @JohnnyWalker123
    Newspaper employment is collapsing.

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/809237663786160128

    As a result of The Telecommunications Act of 1996, 6 mega-companies now control 90% of American media outlets. Thank you, Bill Clinton.
    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34789-democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications -act
    This is the very epitome of oligopoly. Not very surprisingly, These oligopolists returned the favour by uniformly supporting Hillary Clinton, the wife of Bill, for the Presidency and maligning her opponent, Donald Trump, relentlessly. The present situation is an affront to a free society.
    Mr Trump must make it one of his first policies to get the act repealed and proper competition reinstated. He might look at the original Telecommunications Act of 1934 for guidance. Cross Holdings must be banned. The number of newspapers, radio, TV stations etc that each company can control must be drastically reduced. Companies must be broken up, forcibly if need be.
    This is Trump’s Teddy Roosevelt moment. As Roosevelt put John D. Rockefeller in his place, this is the time for Donald Trump to put Carlos Slim and Keith Rupert Murdoch in their places.
    Also, it’s in Trump’s own interests. Break up these companies and at least some of the newly independent outlets will be pro-Trump.

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    Trump could grow in office, but introducing lots of new regulations isn't what he promised to do. In fact, he has held himself out as a pretty standard pro-deregulation pseudo-conservative.
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  38. Anonym says:
    @whorefinder
    What's odd is that as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old "buggy whip" rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat. The name comes from when automobiles replaced horses; this naturally and gradually reduced the need for whips for horse-drawn buggies/carriages. The last buggy whip manufacturers, allegedly, had the best buggy-whips you'd ever seen.

    But newspapers and TV news have become more slipshod and more biased as the internet has eaten away at their profit lines. Or perhaps the bias and poor journalism (the two are not necessarily the same) are just more obvious now that we have both bloggers at events contradicting official narratives and video cameras and cameras in every pocket, leading to direct evidence of either crimes being misreported or crimes being wholesale covered up by the corporate media.

    Perhaps we are still in the disruption phase of the market collapse, where the collapse hasn't yet destroyed all the subpar buggy whip manufacturers.

    Or, perhaps, we are merely reverting to the mean for journalism, where journalists deliver sensationalized stories for a small segment of the population that shares the journalists political sentiments. Certainly in the past most newspapers had open political biases and were often funded by local politicians as their mouthpieces; what's more, yellow journalism is nothing new, as William Randolph Hearst proved by starting the Spanish-American War almost single-handedly.

    Or, perhaps, like most economic theories, the buggy whip rule is bunk.

    No, what is happening is a paradigm shift. Typical of paradigm shifts in the sciences, older people don’t change their views but just retire and die off naturally. But unlike the road situation, you don’t have cars traveling at speed scaring the horses and driving them off the road, effectively. The press aren’t being forced off the road so much as their baby boomer/silent generation readership are being lulled off to sleep with their anti-white fairy tales like the old guy in Soylent Green, with nothing to replace that famous pig in a python demographic.

    See the following graph:

    http://newsosaur.blogspot.com/2013/01/newspaper-audience-aged-severely-since.html?m=1

    Ironically, it seems that the top news sources for young viewers at least in 2012 were the lefty/establishment ones. However, I don’t see much difference in terms of political slant over the last ten years except more SJWism, so I would tend to doubt that the SJWism is a conscious effort to reach a younger audience for a profit motive, but just a symptom of the modern left.

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  39. Anonym says:
    @DCThrowback
    This is an important question. We should be willing to donate to people like our host, Robert Stacy McCain and even Michael Tracey if they need it to cover the sorts of stories we want covered. The future is the personal platform, not the one the paper gives you. The best will be independent - if you're good, people will read you whether you work at the Post, the NYT or the Newark Star-Ledger. Understand though, that words are cheap. Plenty of people are willing to opine for free; therefore the ones who get my dough to do it are likely the bestest of the best.

    Not exactly a field you'd recommend to your kids.

    Not exactly a field you’d recommend to your kids.

    Yeah, all you’ve got to do is be a national merit scholar, and implore your readers to help you buy a kitchen or the like every quarter. No pressure, no pressure!

    Heck, the kids moving to LA looking for a career in Hollywood have more realistic expectations of success than the aspiring professional blogger. We are lucky that our idealistic host had no experience or qualifications in market research before deciding to plunge ahead in such a career. What’s that you say?

    “I would buy these products.”

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    Right. The likely future of journalism is 1) as a function of non-profit organizations and 2) as an expensive, paid service for the elites.
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  40. Bill says:
    @whorefinder
    What's odd is that as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old "buggy whip" rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat. The name comes from when automobiles replaced horses; this naturally and gradually reduced the need for whips for horse-drawn buggies/carriages. The last buggy whip manufacturers, allegedly, had the best buggy-whips you'd ever seen.

    But newspapers and TV news have become more slipshod and more biased as the internet has eaten away at their profit lines. Or perhaps the bias and poor journalism (the two are not necessarily the same) are just more obvious now that we have both bloggers at events contradicting official narratives and video cameras and cameras in every pocket, leading to direct evidence of either crimes being misreported or crimes being wholesale covered up by the corporate media.

    Perhaps we are still in the disruption phase of the market collapse, where the collapse hasn't yet destroyed all the subpar buggy whip manufacturers.

    Or, perhaps, we are merely reverting to the mean for journalism, where journalists deliver sensationalized stories for a small segment of the population that shares the journalists political sentiments. Certainly in the past most newspapers had open political biases and were often funded by local politicians as their mouthpieces; what's more, yellow journalism is nothing new, as William Randolph Hearst proved by starting the Spanish-American War almost single-handedly.

    Or, perhaps, like most economic theories, the buggy whip rule is bunk.

    You aren’t the customer. You can tell by the fact that you don’t pay more than a token fee. Advertisers can target particular demographics via media much, much better than they used to be able to.

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  41. Bill says:
    @Svigor
    I got the idea from Jim Bowery, over at MR. He said something about how interesting it would be to set Artificial Intelligence to analyzing news media product, to use it to pin them down on language. Sounded capital.

    Clickbait journalism can’t compete with Drudge’s simple story of some poor retarded White guy being tortured on Facebook live by a bunch of Black people who speak apparently not a word of English.

    Every White Dude figures that could be them, caught out alone, unguarded, unwary. Every White dude figures if they are honest with themselves that Blacks are a threat, even Black women and girls. That if Blacks would do that to a helpless retarded White person, what would they do to them?
     
    Well, unless they live in a jurisdiction that respects the right to self-defense, AKA red states. Then they can carry and not sweat it. If not, there are other extremely useful implements that can be had for $25.

    I got all excited that Jim Bowery was back at MR. But, no, I don’t see anything from him since 2013. He has his own blog, but he seems to have comments turned off which kind of sucks.

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  42. Bill says:
    @Bleuteaux
    Yeah, another interesting thing would be how large is the subsidized sector of the economy. Alan Tonelson written a bit on this. You can even think of it in layers. Most direct subsidized would be education, healthcare. Then you get military contractors, construction contractors.

    Really, if you want to get depressed, pretty much everything above retail sales is subsidized by government. I work in large equipment manufacturing and we have some of the most legendarily subsidized customers in US history...

    It’s because we are an empire, and that’s what empires are like. Rome gets the tribute and then distributes it to its clients arrayed in a bunch of concentric circles around. Rome was honest about things—they just demanded tribute. With the US, we exchange eventually-to-be-defaulted-upon treasury securities for the tribute.

    Even when you look at the things it looks like we make and export to the world, many of those are because empire. Weapons, Hollywood, and management consulting. Would people be interested in buying these things from us if we were not the hyperpower? Doubtful.

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    The concentric circles thing is interesting to me; I've thought of the economy in that way but without those words. Someone could put together a nice article on each of the concentric circles and how much economic activity occurs within each one.
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  43. Kylie says:
    @Lagertha
    "Journometrics" whatever, is diametrically opposed to Twitter! I am so enjoying the: "Donald shouldn't be allowed to Tweet/take his Twitter account away!"; and, the continuous, odious whining by "progressives," today, the gnashing of teeth, for the last few days.

    I find it ironic that the spirit/definition of the ole' Move On.org is falling on deaf ears. Russia, checkmate. Watching everyone in the USA, furiously, trying to "box in" Trump is just the icing on the cake for Putin. Seriously, the USA (the so-called progressives) are "killing their own babies" at this point. Stop the insanity!

    My big wish for New Year: could we stop labeling people (Hitleresque/Fascist/Racist/white privileged, low-class losers)? - some of these people are family members (strictly speaking about "progressives"), btw, you might just have had an awkward, or downright shitty holiday dinner with them; this, this is more directed to the "progressives" who snoop around here.

    Could we (being generous toward the Progs, again), stop insinuating that we know exactly what Trump will do?...what his supposed minions will do? Shit, we can impeach him if he winds up being a crazy-wildass guy. BTW, I'm not scared of Trump. I get him. And as many of you know, I voted for Obama in the past.

    So sick of the anger, vitriol, slimyness, world-class bullshit, world-class superciliousness of the so-called, progressives - they better cut it out or they will never, never ever, win the presidency ever again. Like I said months ago/a year ago or more: Russia and China are laughing at us, and our squabbles, about who is more virtuous. Sheesh: everyone needs to go back and read the Bronte sisters or Shakespeare to learn about faith, loyalty, fealty. Move On.org should be a mantra for "progressives" to wake up to.

    “So sick of the anger, vitriol, slimyness, world-class bullshit, world-class superciliousness of the so-called, progressives – they better cut it out or they will never, never ever, win the presidency ever again.”

    Delicious thought.

    I hope the progressives never stop of their own volition. As sick as I am of their smug arrogance, ignorance and slimy vitriol, I realize a lot of people aren’t yet fully aware of it. So I hope the progs continue to double down until every decent, sane person is as sick of them as we are.

    Progs have done incalculable damage to Western civilization just in my lifetime. I wish only the worst on them. All of them.

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  44. Kylie says:
    @wren
    OT: Scott Adams today said "It is the start of rebranding America as a new and better version of itself, and one in which Americans take care of their own before taking care of the rest of the world."

    He is also brainstorming today on how to encourage affordable family formation through technology.

    Citizenism may yet have its day in the sun!

    “Citizenism may yet have its day in the sun!”

    That would be a dark day indeed. I hope it never comes.

    Steve Sailer is so dazzlingly bright that I sometimes try to imagine how and why he is. Yet he has this huge blind spot of continuing to be too forbearing towards groups and individuals utterly undeserving of it.

    Anecdotal evidence but as far as I know, the four savages who abducted and tortured that retarded man are all American citizens.

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    I just wanted to agree, but the eeded data were not saved. Anyhow, I agree; I admire Mr. Sailer greatly, but he is forebearing to a fault. Hey, none of us is perfect.
    , @Desiderius
    That's the fake Left

    There's still some folks like this around:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/john-fetterman-is-the-kind-of-democrat-a-trump-voter-can-love/article/2611065
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  45. Lagertha says:
    @neutral

    Russia and China are laughing at us
     
    I am not so sure about that, as America gets ever more unhinged, the willingness to seek ever more dangerous foreign adventures to try create distractions from domestic troubles will increase.

    Russians should be especially scared, as hostility to all things white increases, so will Russia increasingly become a target, the alliance of the war hawks and the SJW left against Russia will become increasingly more willing to push for war (I have come across a disturbing number of opinion pieces arguing that nuclear war is not that deadly). China is a bit safer, because if some Chinese in America protested against people such as McCain that he was racist against China, he will fold in no time.

    Even if America erupted into full scale civil war, it will be a big concern to outsiders. Who would gain control the nuclear weapons would be unclear, the danger is that one faction could use them on Russia or China, blaming them for supporting another faction in the civil war.

    you are right…scary. Just yesterday, Clapper started hedging on the semantics of an “act of war” comment…saying, “it does not mean to go to war,” or something like that. It’s almost like what you suggested: SJW’s/war hawks seem to be attracted to each other. Attracted in a really creepy way right now. I guess my feeling is that China together with Russia will squash those ambitions. Russia has actively pursued a relationship with China these last several years. Plus, who knows when China will start making it clear to war hawks or SJW’s that they just want a peaceful world where everyone keeps buying their stuff they ship- we live; we work; we buy; we die, kinda’ thing.

    My fear about the “small, manageable nuclear war” in the Baltics/Georgia/Armenia was due to the glib chatter I also picked up about the “degree of nuclear deadliness”. So, yes noticed the cavalier attitude, too.

    I feel like computer sci & engineering students are shaking their heads over this droning on and on about hacking….I mean, weren’t there a myriad retail stores whose customer’s personal info was hacked going back years; Target?

    There was no “soviet mind control,” to force people to vote for Trump in the booth. All the Millennials get this; this is why they despise Boomers and anyone older. The majority of Millennial guys voted for Bernie or Trump…or didn’t vote. But, if there is a growing trend towards nuclear confrontation, then they are not gonna sit around the sidelines. Anti nuclear war protests will emerge again, after what? about 40 years?

    My hope is: the more the Russian hacking thing is pushed by Americans, the more the Millennials call bs and sense the corruption of the legislators/govt operatives/pundits/media. Young men in particular, will turn on anyone continuing to sell this hacking thing – it’s sort of boring already, especially since the hearings are not bringing in the hilarity of Wiener’s dic pics :)! And, after all, they would be most of the soldiers.

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    SJW’s/war hawks seem to be attracted to each other. Attracted in a really creepy way right now.
     
    Of course. The Left is all about conflict and aggression.
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  46. Boomstick says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Newspaper employment is collapsing.

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/809237663786160128

    The interesting question is what replaces newspapers as a source of public sentiment. Lets say every regional paper gets nuked, and the majors are on life support. What drives the public discussion of issues in that environment?

    Maybe Hollywood or entertainment, which is not better for conservatives, probably. Imagine immigration policy if the ideological framing for the issue is episodes of “Law and Order” or Trevor Noah.

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    Maybe eventually the idea of "public sentiment" disappears as everyone is kind of in their own personalized news bubble.

    This is already happening. If it's not on Drudge or iSteve (or another fringe source) and none of my <200 Facebook friends (and shrinking) post about it, and it's not on the top 3 news headlines that get shown during the commercial break of jeopardy, then I pretty much don't know about it.

    I'm probably not typical, but who knows.

    , @NOTA
    How about agreed on facts?
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  47. Boomstick says:
    @Jack Highlands
    "Newspaper jobs" has an arbitrary component as newspapers too transition to the internet. This particular metric, whatever it represents, started its plunge in '92, but there was no discernible slip for the Clown World paradigm of the MSM until 2015 (mostly reflecting, but not caused by, the Trumpening).

    They're down, but far from beaten.

    It would be interesting to see the breakdown on reporter jobs vs printing and hardcopy delivery jobs.

    A better metric is probably ad revenue, and that’s collapsing, too:

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  48. @Tom from RFNJ
    This is slightly off topic I think but you might find it an interesting addendum. I wrote something about this some time ago. I was running a quant research team at a well known hedge fund and met with Reuters to talk about their news process and how they could make it more appealing to hedge funds for monetization. I told them, and they ignored me.

    http://freenj.blogspot.com/2016/07/trouble-with-journalists.html

    The main problem with them is their profound laziness. They have no interest in exposing their process to quantification because they will then no longer be able to hide that fact.

    I've had some practical experience in AI problem solving. For a long time now I've believed it's perfectly possible to build an process that could realistically predict what the business 'news' would be tomorrow, and to expose it as a TV program on something like Fox Business news that tells you the various odds on (business) events which hasn't yet happened. Closer odds on near events, and progressively longer odds on events, further in the future.

    Most business events aren't that unexpected, and there are tons of people out there who do nothing but build those odds for the big banks and hedge funds. I had the contacts to get access to that information, and the right kind of tool to convince them to allow us to anonymously aggregate it, track it's accuracy, and make corrections.

    I even tried to persuade some media people I know to get me access to a partner who had the connections to let me pitch it to the network. "Tomorrow's News Today" would have been a real pitch.

    Regrettably, it never happened.

    That was interesting. Thanks.

    At some point in the last 15 years, I floated the idea to acquaintences of a different kind of newspaper: no headlines and every day the same content. Basically, just updated statistics with trend graphs, etc. Instead of Trayvon Martin being a national circus, he would have just been a blip on a gun death chart.

    Nobody I mentioned this to liked my idea. However, in a day of dying newspapers, social media, and AI, I think you could produce this kind of thing and circumvent primary reporters. It would be a source of content for people like Steve, whom people would actually read.

    And news like presidential news conferences? Well, if you’ve watched “coffee with Scott Adams” on Periscope, you’ve got a model. Wouldn’t you like to see President Trump live in his pyjamas every Friday morning?

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  49. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    OT:

    https://www.thelocal.de/20170106/im-an-american-and-i-was-racially-profiled-in-berlin-23-times

    ‘I’m an American and I was racially profiled in Berlin 23 times’

    American journalist Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by police 23 times within her first nine months of living in Berlin. Now she’s investigating racial profiling in Germany – and is looking for others to share experiences.

    The first time 24-year-old Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by an officer in Berlin, she had gone to a park for a morning jog after arriving in the city days before.

    The officer asked her what she was doing, where she lived, and for her ID. When she told him she only had her keys, he said she should always carry identification and left.

    At first she thought it was a one-time incident: yet another new German thing she would learn as she came to know her new home.

    “When I was stopped, I was so jet-lagged and tired that day that I honestly didn’t even know what was going on,” she told The Local.

    By the third time, Kambhampati says she knew something wasn’t right.

    “I thought, ‘this is annoying. Now it’s getting frustrating’,” Kambhampati says. “It wasn’t just one or two times.”

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    Poor Ms Kambhampati, the world and its troubles will just have to make room for her and her solipsism. It's just not fair. Can I go cry now?
    , @donut
    I don't believe it .
    , @bored identity
    Bored Journometer concludes that this easy-self- reinventing* Dravidian opportunist is 92% full of it:


    Almighty Vishnu gifts her with not one, or two, but whole twenty three Gestapo Close Encounters of the Third World Kind, but this passionate data-lover journo still failled every time to pull that smartphone camera from bungling butcrack of her joggsuit?!



    *Sandhya Kambhampati 1:
    " is a sophomore studying broadcast journalism with a Spanish minor. This quarter, she is in Merida, Mexico. My dream is to become a reporter in a Latin American country, so this trip brings me one step closer to learning more about the culture of the Latin American people. I’ve previously been to India, England, Malaysia, Singapore, and a few other places, but have never been immersed in a country by myself."
    https://ohiogoglobal.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/introducing-foreign-correspondent-sandhya-kambhampati/



    *Sandhya Kambhampati 2 :
    " is a data journalist who is passionate about open records, data literacy and statistics. She’s interested in records retention policies and finding new ways for newsrooms to share their institutional knowledge with others..."
    https://opennews.org/what/fellowships/2016meet/

    Sandhya should tell us little bit more about Dalitful human rights conditions in the country from which her ancestors jogg-jet-legged themselves all the way to New Jersey...
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  50. @DCThrowback
    This is an important question. We should be willing to donate to people like our host, Robert Stacy McCain and even Michael Tracey if they need it to cover the sorts of stories we want covered. The future is the personal platform, not the one the paper gives you. The best will be independent - if you're good, people will read you whether you work at the Post, the NYT or the Newark Star-Ledger. Understand though, that words are cheap. Plenty of people are willing to opine for free; therefore the ones who get my dough to do it are likely the bestest of the best.

    Not exactly a field you'd recommend to your kids.

    Yeah, the investigative-type reporters will be required, which often costs money and requires a good deal of nerve and discipline. Which makes me wonder what role organizations like Project Veritas will have in the future: Will most, if not all, journalism not provided by idiots posting their crime sprees to Facebook live feeds originate from organizations and individuals going undercover to dig up dirt on their business, political, or personal rivals?

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  51. CJ says:

    For those who still wonder why sports news is so bad:

    Downfall of the $400,000-a-year Gawker editor: AJ Daulerio reveals he was molested as a child, battled cocaine addiction and lost his Soho apartment and life savings when boss Nick Denton ‘threw him under the bus during Hulk Hogan lawsuit’

    In explaining how bad his drug problem was, Daulerio said that in 2011 while he was working for Gawker’s sister sports website, Deadspin, he was literally covered in cocaine that he had just snorted in a bathroom at a stadium.

    Daulerio said that at the time of the incident, he had the opportunity to meet former Dallas Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman, but he passed on it because the cocaine was all over him.

    ‘When I went to open the bag, I Woody Allened it; the coke went everywhere,’ Daulerio told Esquire, referring to the famous ‘Annie Hall’ scene.

    ‘I didn’t want anyone to think Joe or Troy was doing blow, so I cleaned it up by snorting as much as I could,’ he added, referring to Aikman and Fox Sports commentator Joe Buck.

    Great Daily Mail coverage, especially if you enjoy downfall-of-Nick-Denton material.

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  52. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Another might be humanvaluemetrics.

    PC says it’s about equality, but its media coverage and narrative recurrence favors certain peoples over others. For instance, we’ve heard a million times about Emmitt Till but almost nothing about Newsome. We hear so much about Holocaust victims but nothing of Great Famine victims. So much about blacks in South Africa under apartheid but not much about Palestinians under Zionist rule.

    So, PC has different human value for each people.

    If white value is put at 100…

    Jews score 150
    Blacks score 140(for those in US and South Africa. Blacks killed by blacks in Africa don’t count much. They score 30.)
    Homos score 140 too.

    Palestinians score 50.
    Muslims score 30 over there but 90 over here as they are ‘protected’ by Progs from ‘hateful whites’.

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    "So, PC has different human value for each people.

    If white value is put at 100…

    Jews score 150
    Blacks score 140(for those in US and South Africa. Blacks killed by blacks in Africa don’t count much. They score 30.)
    Homos score 140 too.

    Palestinians score 50.
    Muslims score 30 over there but 90 over here as they are ‘protected’ by Progs from ‘hateful whites’."

    Muslims score way higher than Jews and Homos on the Left Wing pyramid. Muslims murdered 4 Jews at a Kosher deli in France and they murdered a bunch of Homos in Orlando and the Left still refuses to classify Muslims as a basket of deplorables. The Left still wants to turn Western countries into Yemen.
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  53. CJ says:
    @Ivy
    O/T ABC is showing the Menendez brothers. Is their dad a proxy for Fred Trump, or for Donald? Either one seems unrealistic, but these days there may be more angles in the programming and messaging.

    Moral of the Menendez brothers story, according to Rush Limbaugh just after the trial: no women on the jury when the accused is a stud.

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  54. mobi says:
    @Whiskey
    Clickbait journalism can't compete with Drudge's simple story of some poor retarded White guy being tortured on Facebook live by a bunch of Black people who speak apparently not a word of English.

    Every White Dude figures that could be them, caught out alone, unguarded, unwary. Every White dude figures if they are honest with themselves that Blacks are a threat, even Black women and girls. That if Blacks would do that to a helpless retarded White person, what would they do to them?

    That's a raw emotional stimulation by the raw story, unfiltered by polite evasions and lies to protect Blacks as sacred GoodWhite totems of sanctity. One that the Media cannot compete with. At all.

    Of course the flipside is that every White UMC and Professional women looks at the sadism involved particularly on some helpless White dude who is retarded and disabled and gets all tingly. Its the Bath Salts version of Fifty Shades of Gray, no billionaire sadist but plenty of cruelty and domination. Better than dinosaur pr0n or werewolves for sure.

    Of course the flipside is that every White UMC and Professional women looks at the sadism involved particularly on some helpless White dude who is retarded and disabled and gets all tingly. Its the Bath Salts version of Fifty Shades of Gray, no billionaire sadist but plenty of cruelty and domination. Better than dinosaur pr0n or werewolves for sure.

    White women vote for Trump: 53%

    Jewish vote for Trump: 24%

    Honestly, ‘Whiskey’, who do you still think you’re fooling?

    You can do better. Yes, you can.

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    There's plenty of those among liberal women, I'm surrounded by them where I live. ('vibrant' quarter of Berlin)
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  55. @Boomstick
    The interesting question is what replaces newspapers as a source of public sentiment. Lets say every regional paper gets nuked, and the majors are on life support. What drives the public discussion of issues in that environment?

    Maybe Hollywood or entertainment, which is not better for conservatives, probably. Imagine immigration policy if the ideological framing for the issue is episodes of "Law and Order" or Trevor Noah.

    Maybe eventually the idea of “public sentiment” disappears as everyone is kind of in their own personalized news bubble.

    This is already happening. If it’s not on Drudge or iSteve (or another fringe source) and none of my <200 Facebook friends (and shrinking) post about it, and it's not on the top 3 news headlines that get shown during the commercial break of jeopardy, then I pretty much don't know about it.

    I'm probably not typical, but who knows.

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  56. As far back as the mid-1970′s Infotainment delivered by television had replaced dead tree newspapers as most Americans’ source of “news.” It’s the same with a huge proportion of Millennials and Gen Xers who get their Infotainment “news” – all of it Globali$t $ellout Narrative – from their Facebook feeds’ clickbait.

    Watch network/cable national/global “news” and local network affiliate “news” programs, and ask yourself this: how much actual news do they report, and how much of it consists of Narrative-promoting story (and expert talking head) selection (including stories and talking heads selected not to be aired) editing, sound bites, pro-illegal immigrant and “Refugees Welcome!” sob stories, feelgood charity/volunteer/disabled tales, and fuzzy puppy stories?

    In his book Amusing Ourselves To Death Neil Postman covered all of this quite cogently.

    Of course a hard corps of politically-minded Americans still read or revere the dead tree newspapers or their online versions, but declining circulation seems to indicate that this hard corps may now have shrunk to an irreducible minimum market segment. Yet growing numbers of people, not just in the U.S., but worldwide, have been turning to non-network internet news sources (kudos here to Matt Drudge for his superb aggregating job).

    Another facet of Infotainment and even of actual hard news is the sheer multiplication of Infotainment and hard news sources, due to the global turn to the internet. To collect and graph the output of all of these continually multiplying and morphing organs by “journometrics,” you’re gonna need, to paraphrase shark hunter Police Chief Brody, a bigger algorithm.

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  57. @Tom from RFNJ
    This is slightly off topic I think but you might find it an interesting addendum. I wrote something about this some time ago. I was running a quant research team at a well known hedge fund and met with Reuters to talk about their news process and how they could make it more appealing to hedge funds for monetization. I told them, and they ignored me.

    http://freenj.blogspot.com/2016/07/trouble-with-journalists.html

    The main problem with them is their profound laziness. They have no interest in exposing their process to quantification because they will then no longer be able to hide that fact.

    I've had some practical experience in AI problem solving. For a long time now I've believed it's perfectly possible to build an process that could realistically predict what the business 'news' would be tomorrow, and to expose it as a TV program on something like Fox Business news that tells you the various odds on (business) events which hasn't yet happened. Closer odds on near events, and progressively longer odds on events, further in the future.

    Most business events aren't that unexpected, and there are tons of people out there who do nothing but build those odds for the big banks and hedge funds. I had the contacts to get access to that information, and the right kind of tool to convince them to allow us to anonymously aggregate it, track it's accuracy, and make corrections.

    I even tried to persuade some media people I know to get me access to a partner who had the connections to let me pitch it to the network. "Tomorrow's News Today" would have been a real pitch.

    Regrettably, it never happened.

    I had all the correllary conversations with executives from Thomson Reuters about how to improve their products to actually be useful for those of us doing quantitative analysis of patents (prosecution, assignment, and litigation).

    They smiled and nodded but ignored me, too.

    I’m pleased to say several upstart competitors who did listen to people like me have since eaten their lunch in this area.

    Often no one wants to implement the other fellow’s ideas, even if lucrative. It’s a kind of irrational “not-invented-here” hubris, I suppose.

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  58. @Kylie
    "Citizenism may yet have its day in the sun!"

    That would be a dark day indeed. I hope it never comes.

    Steve Sailer is so dazzlingly bright that I sometimes try to imagine how and why he is. Yet he has this huge blind spot of continuing to be too forbearing towards groups and individuals utterly undeserving of it.

    Anecdotal evidence but as far as I know, the four savages who abducted and tortured that retarded man are all American citizens.

    I just wanted to agree, but the eeded data were not saved. Anyhow, I agree; I admire Mr. Sailer greatly, but he is forebearing to a fault. Hey, none of us is perfect.

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  59. Busby says:
    @Jack Highlands
    Good point on "quality." My guess is the last buggy whips were just the damned gaudiest that had ever been seen.

    PS: Does a young person stay 27 forever if it's always the current year?

    Boss, I have some good news and some bad news.

    The good news is our market share is 100%.

    The bad news is we’re only going to sell 1.

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  60. @Kylie
    "Citizenism may yet have its day in the sun!"

    That would be a dark day indeed. I hope it never comes.

    Steve Sailer is so dazzlingly bright that I sometimes try to imagine how and why he is. Yet he has this huge blind spot of continuing to be too forbearing towards groups and individuals utterly undeserving of it.

    Anecdotal evidence but as far as I know, the four savages who abducted and tortured that retarded man are all American citizens.
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  61. NOTA says:
    @whorefinder
    What's odd is that as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old "buggy whip" rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat. The name comes from when automobiles replaced horses; this naturally and gradually reduced the need for whips for horse-drawn buggies/carriages. The last buggy whip manufacturers, allegedly, had the best buggy-whips you'd ever seen.

    But newspapers and TV news have become more slipshod and more biased as the internet has eaten away at their profit lines. Or perhaps the bias and poor journalism (the two are not necessarily the same) are just more obvious now that we have both bloggers at events contradicting official narratives and video cameras and cameras in every pocket, leading to direct evidence of either crimes being misreported or crimes being wholesale covered up by the corporate media.

    Perhaps we are still in the disruption phase of the market collapse, where the collapse hasn't yet destroyed all the subpar buggy whip manufacturers.

    Or, perhaps, we are merely reverting to the mean for journalism, where journalists deliver sensationalized stories for a small segment of the population that shares the journalists political sentiments. Certainly in the past most newspapers had open political biases and were often funded by local politicians as their mouthpieces; what's more, yellow journalism is nothing new, as William Randolph Hearst proved by starting the Spanish-American War almost single-handedly.

    Or, perhaps, like most economic theories, the buggy whip rule is bunk.

    One difference is how you buy news–it’s not a finished product you buy (where maybe they’re pushing hard on the quality to compete with the upstart new technology). Instead, you buy access to the next year’s stream of news reporting from the NYT. Producing that news costs the same whether it’s read by ten people or a million. As the number of subscribers drops, the money with which to produce quality news drops. You can see this–lots of newspapers used to have foreign bureaus, but had to close them.

    One other difference–it’s not clear most people ever really were buying news–the popular features got eyeballs which got ads, and the hard news was cross-subsidized. (Though maybe that’s like buggy whips–most people probably wanted the ride rather than the whip.).

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  62. NOTA says:
    @Tom from RFNJ
    This is slightly off topic I think but you might find it an interesting addendum. I wrote something about this some time ago. I was running a quant research team at a well known hedge fund and met with Reuters to talk about their news process and how they could make it more appealing to hedge funds for monetization. I told them, and they ignored me.

    http://freenj.blogspot.com/2016/07/trouble-with-journalists.html

    The main problem with them is their profound laziness. They have no interest in exposing their process to quantification because they will then no longer be able to hide that fact.

    I've had some practical experience in AI problem solving. For a long time now I've believed it's perfectly possible to build an process that could realistically predict what the business 'news' would be tomorrow, and to expose it as a TV program on something like Fox Business news that tells you the various odds on (business) events which hasn't yet happened. Closer odds on near events, and progressively longer odds on events, further in the future.

    Most business events aren't that unexpected, and there are tons of people out there who do nothing but build those odds for the big banks and hedge funds. I had the contacts to get access to that information, and the right kind of tool to convince them to allow us to anonymously aggregate it, track it's accuracy, and make corrections.

    I even tried to persuade some media people I know to get me access to a partner who had the connections to let me pitch it to the network. "Tomorrow's News Today" would have been a real pitch.

    Regrettably, it never happened.

    For a lot of business news, if you can write a one-day-ahead predictor, you shouldn’t be running a newspaper, you should be trading–after you end up owning the planet, you can set up whatever news services you choose.

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    It's not exactly that easy. The sources of information (and their employers) won't send me the data because they think I'm a nice guy. And it's against the law to cut them in. But give them a chance to drive tomorrow's discussion just by being more right about their projections than the next guy, and they'll all happily hand over proprietary intelligence to be anonymously aggravated.

    T
    , @Autochthon
    For competitive intelligence about technology, the trouble with this otherwise great point is the infrastructure and capital needed to maintain a good system: you're integrating mountains of data, some of it proprietary (market research, Derwent's classifications, SCOPUS, citators). Even for public data – securities filings, cases, etc. – an employer subscribing to premium platforms is necessary because systems like EDGAR, the EDIS, PACER, etc. are so useless for aggregating data. Building comparable platforms in house wants an army of softeware engineers.

    I suppose one could launch a start-up and pitch to VC firms for all this mess, but that itself requires a skill a lot of us analytical types lack: salesmanship.

    I cannot speak for others, but I find it easier to keep working as an employee of an evil corporation with the means for all that supporting infrastructure for now.

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  63. NOTA says:
    @Boomstick
    The interesting question is what replaces newspapers as a source of public sentiment. Lets say every regional paper gets nuked, and the majors are on life support. What drives the public discussion of issues in that environment?

    Maybe Hollywood or entertainment, which is not better for conservatives, probably. Imagine immigration policy if the ideological framing for the issue is episodes of "Law and Order" or Trevor Noah.

    How about agreed on facts?

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    Any reader of Steve should know that some facts matter and some are inconvenient and therefore not to be mentioned. What entities promote one set of facts, and suppress others?
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  64. guest says:
    @whorefinder
    What's odd is that as the newspaper and TV news markets have been collapsing, they have not followed the old "buggy whip" rule from economics.

    In the buggy whip rule, when a market is collapsing, the members produce higher and higher quality product in order to stay afloat. The name comes from when automobiles replaced horses; this naturally and gradually reduced the need for whips for horse-drawn buggies/carriages. The last buggy whip manufacturers, allegedly, had the best buggy-whips you'd ever seen.

    But newspapers and TV news have become more slipshod and more biased as the internet has eaten away at their profit lines. Or perhaps the bias and poor journalism (the two are not necessarily the same) are just more obvious now that we have both bloggers at events contradicting official narratives and video cameras and cameras in every pocket, leading to direct evidence of either crimes being misreported or crimes being wholesale covered up by the corporate media.

    Perhaps we are still in the disruption phase of the market collapse, where the collapse hasn't yet destroyed all the subpar buggy whip manufacturers.

    Or, perhaps, we are merely reverting to the mean for journalism, where journalists deliver sensationalized stories for a small segment of the population that shares the journalists political sentiments. Certainly in the past most newspapers had open political biases and were often funded by local politicians as their mouthpieces; what's more, yellow journalism is nothing new, as William Randolph Hearst proved by starting the Spanish-American War almost single-handedly.

    Or, perhaps, like most economic theories, the buggy whip rule is bunk.

    Other posters have pointed this out, but let me reiterate. You must define your product. The buggy-whip industry was probably a lot more complex than we remember it, but it is ultimately pretty easily definable. People wanted whips that did a good job driving buggies, or made them look cool driving buggies, made them look cool in general, or maybe just made them feel good in general. Let’s take for granted the last great wave of buggy-whips did all of the above better, or more efficiently, than ever before.

    What makes for good newspapers and tv news? The answer is probably less tied to verifiable reality than the buggy-whip. Quality reporting? Sufficiently subtle bias? Hard-hitting, deep-digging, whatever? I don’t know. Entertainment, feeling informed, feeling tied to your in-group, giving you the means to virtue-signal, whatever. All of the above.

    But there’s also a purpose to the news that has nothing to do with news or the desires of the reading and viewing public. It’s a means of propaganda. It’s a means of access to politics and various parts of culture. It’s intellectual make-work. It’s a vehicle for business interests. It’s many things besides the things it superficially is.

    That could have been true of the buggy-whip industry as well, I wouldn’t know. But newsmedia is uniquely set up to get what you want in a society governed as much as ours is by making people think a certain way. If your aim is to win political power, say, tell the ruling class what to think, push Big Money in a certain direction, etc., the NYT is perhaps better than ever equipped to do it for you.

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  65. guest says:
    @SFG
    He's cheating a little with the y-axis not starting at 0, but he is basically right, newspapers are crashing as people get their news online without paying for it.

    Investigative reporting still does need to get done, though--aggregator sites like Breitbart and Drudge mostly cite articles from traditional newspapers. Maybe it'll just get crowdsourced by guys with cellphone cameras?

    Not exactly a secret, but journalists have always been heavily reliant upon sources. Most “investigative journalism” is just a series of sources, plus some fact-finding. Wikileaks and James O’Keefe did a better job getting sources than the rest of the media combined in the presidential election. We have no dearth of raw material getting out there. On the bringing it together and telling us what to think about it front, Steve is as good as any Woodward.

    What they lack is: fact-checking, which who cares, the legacy media gets wrong all the time; editing, again, who cares, the legacy media is atrocious reading,. This is more than made up for by the absence of political and corporate overseers.

    There are investigative journalists I’ve read and liked, but come on. They aren’t cranking out Seymour Hershes. Mostly the industry is a sewer. They’ve been playing tunes called by the state, Big Business, and the ruling intellectual class since forever. I am perfectly comfortable getting stupider, more raw news.

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    I wonder if the average quality is any worse now--I assume it is, because the underlying business is failing and investigative reporting requires paying the reporters while they investigate stuff. But there was plenty of bad (biased, played by their sources, plain wrong, made-up) reporting in the past, too. I guess one difference is that it's easier to notice now, when the megaphones aren't all pointed in one direction.
    , @NOTA
    One reason the fact checking matters is that otherwise, Wikileaks or whomever else ends up completely the captive of their sources, with no ability to distinguish between when they're helping spread true stuff or lies or a mix of the two.

    It costs little to produce made-up electronic documents proving your favorite conspiracy theory. Before I breathlessly read them, I'd like to know they really came from the CIA or Banknof America or the Democratic Party or wherever else, that they're consistent with what else is known, not obviously wrong, etc.
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  66. guest says:
    @Dumbo
    Maybe, but I doubt that those 4 guys (apparently two are women, but I am not sure which) would get anyone tingly... Seriously, among the ugliest people I've ever saw.

    http://abc7chicago.com/news/4-charged-with-hate-crimes-in-torture-of-teen-in-facebook-live-video/1687517/

    It’s the idea that gets them tingly, not the actual image of them. Like the idea of Obama, who when you look closely isn’t cool but rather nerdy and distinctly “white.”

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  67. I see another lone straight white male has been on a shooting rampage in Florida – chap called Esteban Santiago.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/06/shots-fired-fort-lauderdale-airport-live/

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  68. guest says:
    @Ivy
    O/T ABC is showing the Menendez brothers. Is their dad a proxy for Fred Trump, or for Donald? Either one seems unrealistic, but these days there may be more angles in the programming and messaging.

    I don’t know if it was as specific as that, though there may have been Hidden Messages I missed. They mentioned Jose Menendez was an immigrant, which if he’s also a monster and breeder of patricides/matricides, would speak in favor of Trump’s policies. But Cubans are “white Hispanics,” and Jose was used as an example of overly strict, traditionalist, capitalist, Keeping Up with the Joneses, socially conscious, “what will the neighbors think,” parentage.

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  69. NOTA says:
    @guest
    Not exactly a secret, but journalists have always been heavily reliant upon sources. Most "investigative journalism" is just a series of sources, plus some fact-finding. Wikileaks and James O'Keefe did a better job getting sources than the rest of the media combined in the presidential election. We have no dearth of raw material getting out there. On the bringing it together and telling us what to think about it front, Steve is as good as any Woodward.

    What they lack is: fact-checking, which who cares, the legacy media gets wrong all the time; editing, again, who cares, the legacy media is atrocious reading,. This is more than made up for by the absence of political and corporate overseers.

    There are investigative journalists I've read and liked, but come on. They aren't cranking out Seymour Hershes. Mostly the industry is a sewer. They've been playing tunes called by the state, Big Business, and the ruling intellectual class since forever. I am perfectly comfortable getting stupider, more raw news.

    I wonder if the average quality is any worse now–I assume it is, because the underlying business is failing and investigative reporting requires paying the reporters while they investigate stuff. But there was plenty of bad (biased, played by their sources, plain wrong, made-up) reporting in the past, too. I guess one difference is that it’s easier to notice now, when the megaphones aren’t all pointed in one direction.

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    I wonder if the average quality is any worse now–I assume it is, because the underlying business is failing and investigative reporting requires paying the reporters while they investigate stuff. But there was plenty of bad (biased, played by their sources, plain wrong, made-up) reporting in the past, too.
     
    Walter Duranty?
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  70. NOTA says:
    @guest
    Not exactly a secret, but journalists have always been heavily reliant upon sources. Most "investigative journalism" is just a series of sources, plus some fact-finding. Wikileaks and James O'Keefe did a better job getting sources than the rest of the media combined in the presidential election. We have no dearth of raw material getting out there. On the bringing it together and telling us what to think about it front, Steve is as good as any Woodward.

    What they lack is: fact-checking, which who cares, the legacy media gets wrong all the time; editing, again, who cares, the legacy media is atrocious reading,. This is more than made up for by the absence of political and corporate overseers.

    There are investigative journalists I've read and liked, but come on. They aren't cranking out Seymour Hershes. Mostly the industry is a sewer. They've been playing tunes called by the state, Big Business, and the ruling intellectual class since forever. I am perfectly comfortable getting stupider, more raw news.

    One reason the fact checking matters is that otherwise, Wikileaks or whomever else ends up completely the captive of their sources, with no ability to distinguish between when they’re helping spread true stuff or lies or a mix of the two.

    It costs little to produce made-up electronic documents proving your favorite conspiracy theory. Before I breathlessly read them, I’d like to know they really came from the CIA or Banknof America or the Democratic Party or wherever else, that they’re consistent with what else is known, not obviously wrong, etc.

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    Being a captive of their sources is a danger to Wikileaks, or any news outlet, really. But that's where the rest of the world comes in. If Wikileaks can't or won't check everything itself, iSteve, for instance, can pitch in. Whereas in the past we might have got a more put-together and finished product from the beginning, this way it's harder to spike or bury things we really ought to know.

    That is more than half of the problem with the MSM: what they won't tell us. Supposedly for our own good. The remainder, what they get wrong, I'm not as worried about.

    Fact-checking hasn't helped the MSM where it most matters. Talk about a captive press! They have Stockholm Syndromes vis a vis the government, especially as regards state secrets. The first casualty of war is the truth, as they say, and fact checking often consists of ringing up Barry and asking him for permission to say what he wants you to say.

    Which is why Wikileaks is as famous as it is.

    , @Eric Novak
    No objections from Democrats about the veracity of Wikileaks' released emails. Julian Assange is not a moron, who will put out anything anonymous sources send him.
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  71. @NOTA
    For a lot of business news, if you can write a one-day-ahead predictor, you shouldn't be running a newspaper, you should be trading--after you end up owning the planet, you can set up whatever news services you choose.

    It’s not exactly that easy. The sources of information (and their employers) won’t send me the data because they think I’m a nice guy. And it’s against the law to cut them in. But give them a chance to drive tomorrow’s discussion just by being more right about their projections than the next guy, and they’ll all happily hand over proprietary intelligence to be anonymously aggravated.

    T

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  72. @Anonym
    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

    By ‘Clown World’ I simply mean the upside-down world of contemporary Leftism. It has become critically divorced from reality in every facet, from their failure to understand the rise of Trumpism from their own biases, to their idea that orchidopenectomy and estrogen make a woman out of a human with a Y chromosome in every somatic cell of his body. However, I suppose the root of it all is gene denial.

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  73. Jefferson says:
    @Anon
    Another might be humanvaluemetrics.

    PC says it's about equality, but its media coverage and narrative recurrence favors certain peoples over others. For instance, we've heard a million times about Emmitt Till but almost nothing about Newsome. We hear so much about Holocaust victims but nothing of Great Famine victims. So much about blacks in South Africa under apartheid but not much about Palestinians under Zionist rule.

    So, PC has different human value for each people.


    If white value is put at 100...

    Jews score 150
    Blacks score 140(for those in US and South Africa. Blacks killed by blacks in Africa don't count much. They score 30.)
    Homos score 140 too.

    Palestinians score 50.
    Muslims score 30 over there but 90 over here as they are 'protected' by Progs from 'hateful whites'.

    “So, PC has different human value for each people.

    If white value is put at 100…

    Jews score 150
    Blacks score 140(for those in US and South Africa. Blacks killed by blacks in Africa don’t count much. They score 30.)
    Homos score 140 too.

    Palestinians score 50.
    Muslims score 30 over there but 90 over here as they are ‘protected’ by Progs from ‘hateful whites’.”

    Muslims score way higher than Jews and Homos on the Left Wing pyramid. Muslims murdered 4 Jews at a Kosher deli in France and they murdered a bunch of Homos in Orlando and the Left still refuses to classify Muslims as a basket of deplorables. The Left still wants to turn Western countries into Yemen.

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    "Muslims score way higher than Jews and Homos on the Left Wing pyramid. Muslims murdered 4 Jews at a Kosher deli in France and they murdered a bunch of Homos in Orlando and the Left still refuses to classify Muslims as a basket of deplorables. The Left still wants to turn Western countries into Yemen."

    France is different. French have French Guilt about North Africans because of the Algerian War that left a scar on French Conscience. After WWII, the French saw themselves as martyrs under German rule. But the war in Algeria got real nasty, and French were seen as Nazi-like.

    Both French Gentiles and French Jews have their own reasons for being pro-Muslim. French gentile leftists see it 'national guilt' over imperialism. It's also a legacy of May 68, the 'new leftism' built on western intellectuals allied with Third World. For French Jews, siding with Muslims is a way to stick it to Catholic France that collaborated with Nazi Germany. It's a way of saying 'We Jews and Muslims as fellow victims of whites'. But, this narrative is falling apart because French Jews are too rich and cuz of Zionism.
    And of course, attacking Zionism is a way for the French Left to attack the US that is controlled by Zionists.

    In the US, the relative suppression of news of Muslim bad behavior by the Proglos has less to do with valuing Muslim Life than with maintaining the Diversity Coalition.
    After all, even with BDS, the majority of Democrats still favor Israel over Palestine. And the Progs were silent about US destruction of Libya and US aiding terrorists to mess up Syria. And the Clintons have been blamed big time for their crime policy in the 90s but there is hardly any talk of how the sanctions on Iraq killed 100,000s of kids. And one's career is NOT destroyed in the US for badmouthing Muslims. 'Islamophobia' isn't a career-killer. In many places, it is still a career-maker. It certainly didn't hurt Trump.

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  74. Bleuteaux says:
    @Bill
    It's because we are an empire, and that's what empires are like. Rome gets the tribute and then distributes it to its clients arrayed in a bunch of concentric circles around. Rome was honest about things---they just demanded tribute. With the US, we exchange eventually-to-be-defaulted-upon treasury securities for the tribute.

    Even when you look at the things it looks like we make and export to the world, many of those are because empire. Weapons, Hollywood, and management consulting. Would people be interested in buying these things from us if we were not the hyperpower? Doubtful.

    The concentric circles thing is interesting to me; I’ve thought of the economy in that way but without those words. Someone could put together a nice article on each of the concentric circles and how much economic activity occurs within each one.

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  75. gregor says:

    OT: From WaPo’s “Wonkblog”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/06/if-someone-doesnt-like-immigrants-ask-them-this-question/?utm_term=.be9c163aa34b

    It talks about how stoopid those people are who think immigration is something to be concerned about and cites Actual Scientific Research that says that even when these anti-immigrant bumpkins are disabused of their anti-immigrant misconceptions with the good ol’ Fact Check they still cling to their xenophobia. Would you believe that when surveyed these misinformed people can’t accurately estimate the percentage of foreign born Americans or the proportion in jail? They also do very poorly trying to guess the number of immigrant feminist librarians.

    I would like to do a twist on the same experiment where people get blasted with real talk and shown videos of people waiving Mexican flags shutting down the highway.

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  76. Bleuteaux says:

    Are we sure that it matters much how little newspapers are making money? Newspapers and magazines have been losing money for generations.

    I think what Slim did to the NYT and Bezos did to WaPo is the future of journalism: forget worrying about ad revenue, just use the paper purely as a vehicle for propaganda dressed up in the rags of a long-dead institution we called journalism.

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    Slim's investment in the NYT was a brilliant bargain.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzhb3U2cONs
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  77. @Bleuteaux
    Are we sure that it matters much how little newspapers are making money? Newspapers and magazines have been losing money for generations.

    I think what Slim did to the NYT and Bezos did to WaPo is the future of journalism: forget worrying about ad revenue, just use the paper purely as a vehicle for propaganda dressed up in the rags of a long-dead institution we called journalism.

    Slim’s investment in the NYT was a brilliant bargain.

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    You are both onto something here:

    I see a time in the near future when all pretense of objectivity is abandoned and the negligible revenue from subscriptions and advertisements is irrelevant.

    News media become like lobbying firms, or even like purveyors of fiction.

    People fund and consume it based on its satisfying and edifying them; reinforcing their worldviews and working to inculcate those worldviews in others.

    It already is happening. No one of any appreciable intelligence doesn't know, in his heart, that Slate and the New York Times, Huffpo, etc. don't have a slant and an agenda. Hell, in many ways this recent election was about people seeing that even ABC, CNN, etc do too.

    And, to be fair, it's also true of Unz, VDARE, Amren, and other reliable media: the difference is the latter are candid about their biased and personal opinions; and honestly concede points by valuing truth and fact over the goals of any supporters or philosophy.

    , @res
    Agreed, but that's probably true of almost any purchase of US stocks or real estate in (early?) 2009. Buy when there's blood in the streets.
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  78. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Anonym
    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

    One question to the older readers here – did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump?

    In Australia at lest the media response to Reagan was just as hysterical as the response to Trump.

    The difference is that Reagan was portrayed as a crazed warmonger. Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing. These days it’s generally seen as a good thing.

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    "Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing. These days it’s generally seen as a good thing."

    Yea I turned off (maybe for good?) Mark Levin tonight because "Russia be our ENEMY".

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    "Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing."

    At the 1983 Conservative Party youth conference the DJ and comedian Kenny Everett was the warm-up act - he opened by walking onstage and shouting "Let's bomb Russia!" to huge cheers. I don't think anyone in the audience took him seriously, but the Guardian were absolutely horrified.

    Now the valenki seems to be on the other foot.

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  80. @NOTA
    For a lot of business news, if you can write a one-day-ahead predictor, you shouldn't be running a newspaper, you should be trading--after you end up owning the planet, you can set up whatever news services you choose.

    For competitive intelligence about technology, the trouble with this otherwise great point is the infrastructure and capital needed to maintain a good system: you’re integrating mountains of data, some of it proprietary (market research, Derwent’s classifications, SCOPUS, citators). Even for public data – securities filings, cases, etc. – an employer subscribing to premium platforms is necessary because systems like EDGAR, the EDIS, PACER, etc. are so useless for aggregating data. Building comparable platforms in house wants an army of softeware engineers.

    I suppose one could launch a start-up and pitch to VC firms for all this mess, but that itself requires a skill a lot of us analytical types lack: salesmanship.

    I cannot speak for others, but I find it easier to keep working as an employee of an evil corporation with the means for all that supporting infrastructure for now.

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  81. @Steve Sailer
    Slim's investment in the NYT was a brilliant bargain.

    You are both onto something here:

    I see a time in the near future when all pretense of objectivity is abandoned and the negligible revenue from subscriptions and advertisements is irrelevant.

    News media become like lobbying firms, or even like purveyors of fiction.

    People fund and consume it based on its satisfying and edifying them; reinforcing their worldviews and working to inculcate those worldviews in others.

    It already is happening. No one of any appreciable intelligence doesn’t know, in his heart, that Slate and the New York Times, Huffpo, etc. don’t have a slant and an agenda. Hell, in many ways this recent election was about people seeing that even ABC, CNN, etc do too.

    And, to be fair, it’s also true of Unz, VDARE, Amren, and other reliable media: the difference is the latter are candid about their biased and personal opinions; and honestly concede points by valuing truth and fact over the goals of any supporters or philosophy.

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  82. benjaminl says:

    OT: Today in Analyzing the Sailer Strategy:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/opinion/what-does-my-party-want.html?_r=0

    Bannon’s worldview was evident in the Trump campaign’s closing argument, a striking two-minute commercial that mixed images of closed factories, multiracial workers, piles of hundred dollar bills, shots of Hillary and the Clinton Foundation, Trump rallies, busy Chinese assembly line workers and footage of George Soros, Janet Yellen, and Lloyd Blankfein — all of whom are Jewish.

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  83. Boomstick says:
    @NOTA
    How about agreed on facts?

    Any reader of Steve should know that some facts matter and some are inconvenient and therefore not to be mentioned. What entities promote one set of facts, and suppress others?

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    I'd rather have all the facts openly discussed in the same place, myself.

    A common feature of MSM reporting on politically sensitive topics is that they won't lie, exactly, but they also won't volunteer information that undermines their narrative, or sometimes they'll bury that information at the end of the story. I've noticed this often in NPR reporting--they're not going to make stuff up, but they will avoid discussing relevant things that mess up the story they want to tell.
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  84. cipher says:
    @Anonymous
    OT:

    https://www.thelocal.de/20170106/im-an-american-and-i-was-racially-profiled-in-berlin-23-times

    'I'm an American and I was racially profiled in Berlin 23 times'

    American journalist Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by police 23 times within her first nine months of living in Berlin. Now she's investigating racial profiling in Germany - and is looking for others to share experiences.

    The first time 24-year-old Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by an officer in Berlin, she had gone to a park for a morning jog after arriving in the city days before.

    The officer asked her what she was doing, where she lived, and for her ID. When she told him she only had her keys, he said she should always carry identification and left.

    At first she thought it was a one-time incident: yet another new German thing she would learn as she came to know her new home.

    “When I was stopped, I was so jet-lagged and tired that day that I honestly didn’t even know what was going on,” she told The Local.

    By the third time, Kambhampati says she knew something wasn’t right.

    “I thought, ‘this is annoying. Now it’s getting frustrating’,” Kambhampati says. “It wasn’t just one or two times.”
     

    Poor Ms Kambhampati, the world and its troubles will just have to make room for her and her solipsism. It’s just not fair. Can I go cry now?

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  85. @Anonym
    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

    Hey there – 54 year old here.

    I started college in the early ’80s, and yes – the vituperative attacks against Reagan were insane. “He will nuke us all!!!”. He will “put black people in camps!!!”, etc.

    Some things never change. You had to be there, as it was pre-internets/webs.

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    I recall that too and so I'm not impressed when the left claims that the vituperation they direct at Trump is only because he is the most extreme, ultra, rightwing fascist who was ever elected president. They applied the same terms to Reagan, whom they now pretend to have considered a respectable Republican. From last summer's DNC Convention:

    In a brief speech Wednesday, California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom criticized Republican nominee Donald Trump as someone who had tarnished the legacy of the Republican president, who famously called for the Soviet Union to tear down the Berlin Wall.

    “Trump strangled the sunny optimism of Ronald Reagan and replaced ‘tear down that wall’ with the cynical bigotry of ‘build that wall,'” he said.

    Later that night, President Obama made a similar argument in his keynote address, citing a biblical metaphor that Reagan used on the campaign and in his farewell address as president.

    “Ronald Reagan called America ‘a shining city on a hill,'” he said. “Donald Trump calls it ‘a divided crime scene’ that only he can fix.”
     
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  86. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @benjaminl
    Today in Never Mind About Implicit Bias:

    http://www.chronicle.com/article/Can-We-Really-Measure-Implicit/238807

    Boo to you for that link:

    “It is such an important problem that it deserves a stronger science…”

    Really, implicit bias such an important problem?

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  87. @mobi

    Of course the flipside is that every White UMC and Professional women looks at the sadism involved particularly on some helpless White dude who is retarded and disabled and gets all tingly. Its the Bath Salts version of Fifty Shades of Gray, no billionaire sadist but plenty of cruelty and domination. Better than dinosaur pr0n or werewolves for sure.
     
    White women vote for Trump: 53%

    Jewish vote for Trump: 24%

    Honestly, 'Whiskey', who do you still think you're fooling?

    You can do better. Yes, you can.

    There’s plenty of those among liberal women, I’m surrounded by them where I live. (‘vibrant’ quarter of Berlin)

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    How did they react to the arson-fugees?

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/outrage-after-seven-young-refugees-9523175
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  88. @Lagertha
    you are right...scary. Just yesterday, Clapper started hedging on the semantics of an "act of war" comment...saying, "it does not mean to go to war," or something like that. It's almost like what you suggested: SJW's/war hawks seem to be attracted to each other. Attracted in a really creepy way right now. I guess my feeling is that China together with Russia will squash those ambitions. Russia has actively pursued a relationship with China these last several years. Plus, who knows when China will start making it clear to war hawks or SJW's that they just want a peaceful world where everyone keeps buying their stuff they ship- we live; we work; we buy; we die, kinda' thing.

    My fear about the "small, manageable nuclear war" in the Baltics/Georgia/Armenia was due to the glib chatter I also picked up about the "degree of nuclear deadliness". So, yes noticed the cavalier attitude, too.

    I feel like computer sci & engineering students are shaking their heads over this droning on and on about hacking....I mean, weren't there a myriad retail stores whose customer's personal info was hacked going back years; Target?

    There was no "soviet mind control," to force people to vote for Trump in the booth. All the Millennials get this; this is why they despise Boomers and anyone older. The majority of Millennial guys voted for Bernie or Trump...or didn't vote. But, if there is a growing trend towards nuclear confrontation, then they are not gonna sit around the sidelines. Anti nuclear war protests will emerge again, after what? about 40 years?

    My hope is: the more the Russian hacking thing is pushed by Americans, the more the Millennials call bs and sense the corruption of the legislators/govt operatives/pundits/media. Young men in particular, will turn on anyone continuing to sell this hacking thing - it's sort of boring already, especially since the hearings are not bringing in the hilarity of Wiener's dic pics :)! And, after all, they would be most of the soldiers.

    SJW’s/war hawks seem to be attracted to each other. Attracted in a really creepy way right now.

    Of course. The Left is all about conflict and aggression.

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  89. newrouter says:
    @dfordoom

    One question to the older readers here – did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump?
     
    In Australia at lest the media response to Reagan was just as hysterical as the response to Trump.

    The difference is that Reagan was portrayed as a crazed warmonger. Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing. These days it's generally seen as a good thing.

    “Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing. These days it’s generally seen as a good thing.”

    Yea I turned off (maybe for good?) Mark Levin tonight because “Russia be our ENEMY”.

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  90. Njguy73 says:

    I hope I live to see the rise of “journometrics:” fine-grained and wide-ranging statistics on how these humanities majors do their work. Media reach scores, time spent on x vs. y measured down to the second, biometric analysis of emphasis and characterization, physical models of a story’s impact, dictionalysis etc.

    So how do we calculate VORJ, or Value Over Replacement Journalist?

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  91. @NOTA
    I wonder if the average quality is any worse now--I assume it is, because the underlying business is failing and investigative reporting requires paying the reporters while they investigate stuff. But there was plenty of bad (biased, played by their sources, plain wrong, made-up) reporting in the past, too. I guess one difference is that it's easier to notice now, when the megaphones aren't all pointed in one direction.

    I wonder if the average quality is any worse now–I assume it is, because the underlying business is failing and investigative reporting requires paying the reporters while they investigate stuff. But there was plenty of bad (biased, played by their sources, plain wrong, made-up) reporting in the past, too.

    Walter Duranty?

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  92. @Bleuteaux
    Are we sure that it matters much how little newspapers are making money? Newspapers and magazines have been losing money for generations.

    I think what Slim did to the NYT and Bezos did to WaPo is the future of journalism: forget worrying about ad revenue, just use the paper purely as a vehicle for propaganda dressed up in the rags of a long-dead institution we called journalism.

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  93. guest says:
    @NOTA
    One reason the fact checking matters is that otherwise, Wikileaks or whomever else ends up completely the captive of their sources, with no ability to distinguish between when they're helping spread true stuff or lies or a mix of the two.

    It costs little to produce made-up electronic documents proving your favorite conspiracy theory. Before I breathlessly read them, I'd like to know they really came from the CIA or Banknof America or the Democratic Party or wherever else, that they're consistent with what else is known, not obviously wrong, etc.

    Being a captive of their sources is a danger to Wikileaks, or any news outlet, really. But that’s where the rest of the world comes in. If Wikileaks can’t or won’t check everything itself, iSteve, for instance, can pitch in. Whereas in the past we might have got a more put-together and finished product from the beginning, this way it’s harder to spike or bury things we really ought to know.

    That is more than half of the problem with the MSM: what they won’t tell us. Supposedly for our own good. The remainder, what they get wrong, I’m not as worried about.

    Fact-checking hasn’t helped the MSM where it most matters. Talk about a captive press! They have Stockholm Syndromes vis a vis the government, especially as regards state secrets. The first casualty of war is the truth, as they say, and fact checking often consists of ringing up Barry and asking him for permission to say what he wants you to say.

    Which is why Wikileaks is as famous as it is.

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    That is more than half of the problem with the MSM: what they won’t tell us. Supposedly for our own good.
     
    https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/332494589934047234
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  94. FPD72 says:
    @Anonym
    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

    Trump was attacked by the media more than any presidential candidate during my lifetime. Second worst was Goldwater in 1964. Third was Reagan in 1980. The media hated Nixon and Johnson, but the attacks were more during their administrations, not as much during their campaigns. After all, Johnson ran against Goldwater, but it seemed as though the press turned on LBJ, mainly about Vietnam, the day after he crushed Goldwater in the election.

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    I know others have said Reagan was attacked just as much, which goes against my conjecture that the establishment media is losing its grip on power and it took something else to swing it. But your experience supports it. I don’t know what to think.

    Certainly one thing is true - demographically Trump had it much, much tougher. Tougher than any Republican has had it.
    , @candid_observer
    Here is one measure of how much more Trump has been opposed by the media than was Reagan: the number of newspapers which endorsed each as a Presidential candidate:

    http://noahveltman.com/endorsements/

    Reagan garnered 47 1/2 in 1980; Trump only 2 in 2016.

    Hard to dispute the significance of numbers like that.

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  95. Old fogey says:
    @anonymous
    Big media are no longer the gatekeepers of what information reaches the public. The internet has taken over that function as well as allowing people to communicate their views with a wide range of people regardless of geography. Big media is now for lazy people, passive consumers who read little or nothing of any value but just keep the tv on. They used to have foreign correspondents who were literate and would report from all the exotic and war torn parts of the globe. Newsreels were shown in movie theaters for an interested public. Now we have the neon-haired Megyn Kelly who was getting paid an astonishing $15M yearly for what exactly? Giving her opinion on everything as though she were a great oracle? I used to purchase and read three newspapers every day. Now, nothing, they have hardly any news and are too irritating to read. They're just subsidized propaganda loudspeakers. Television has become a swamp of pornography unsuitable for viewing by anyone under twenty-one and too moronic for anyone over that age. As the technology of big media has advanced and their stations became more palatial the content has shrunk; garbage brought to you in high-def 3D.

    Hear! Hear! All true. The NYT can’t even edit its prose correctly any more.

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    That and the reporters have interesting and unusual names which is an indicator of success in upending that which came before which is the real measure of excellence.
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  96. @guest
    Being a captive of their sources is a danger to Wikileaks, or any news outlet, really. But that's where the rest of the world comes in. If Wikileaks can't or won't check everything itself, iSteve, for instance, can pitch in. Whereas in the past we might have got a more put-together and finished product from the beginning, this way it's harder to spike or bury things we really ought to know.

    That is more than half of the problem with the MSM: what they won't tell us. Supposedly for our own good. The remainder, what they get wrong, I'm not as worried about.

    Fact-checking hasn't helped the MSM where it most matters. Talk about a captive press! They have Stockholm Syndromes vis a vis the government, especially as regards state secrets. The first casualty of war is the truth, as they say, and fact checking often consists of ringing up Barry and asking him for permission to say what he wants you to say.

    Which is why Wikileaks is as famous as it is.

    That is more than half of the problem with the MSM: what they won’t tell us. Supposedly for our own good.

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  97. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Dumbo
    Maybe, but I doubt that those 4 guys (apparently two are women, but I am not sure which) would get anyone tingly... Seriously, among the ugliest people I've ever saw.

    http://abc7chicago.com/news/4-charged-with-hate-crimes-in-torture-of-teen-in-facebook-live-video/1687517/

    If you still think women’s primary attraction point is a man’s looks, you’re not paying attention.

    Show a woman a man in power who is dominating and overwhelming, and she’ll make up excuses about how he looks.

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  98. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Whiskey
    Clickbait journalism can't compete with Drudge's simple story of some poor retarded White guy being tortured on Facebook live by a bunch of Black people who speak apparently not a word of English.

    Every White Dude figures that could be them, caught out alone, unguarded, unwary. Every White dude figures if they are honest with themselves that Blacks are a threat, even Black women and girls. That if Blacks would do that to a helpless retarded White person, what would they do to them?

    That's a raw emotional stimulation by the raw story, unfiltered by polite evasions and lies to protect Blacks as sacred GoodWhite totems of sanctity. One that the Media cannot compete with. At all.

    Of course the flipside is that every White UMC and Professional women looks at the sadism involved particularly on some helpless White dude who is retarded and disabled and gets all tingly. Its the Bath Salts version of Fifty Shades of Gray, no billionaire sadist but plenty of cruelty and domination. Better than dinosaur pr0n or werewolves for sure.

    When the Left destroyed white ethnic neighborhoods beginning in the 1950s they deliberately destroyed a lot of the “rapid response” forces that whites would have deployed to punish blacks for this horror.

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  99. Truth says:

    Sviggy, 10 years of hard work and you’ve finally made the big time, you Shun ovaBitch!!

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    Sviggy, 10 years of hard work and you’ve finally made the big time, you Shun ovaBitch!!

    SWPL Stormfront ftw!
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  100. Anonym says:
    @FPD72
    Trump was attacked by the media more than any presidential candidate during my lifetime. Second worst was Goldwater in 1964. Third was Reagan in 1980. The media hated Nixon and Johnson, but the attacks were more during their administrations, not as much during their campaigns. After all, Johnson ran against Goldwater, but it seemed as though the press turned on LBJ, mainly about Vietnam, the day after he crushed Goldwater in the election.

    I know others have said Reagan was attacked just as much, which goes against my conjecture that the establishment media is losing its grip on power and it took something else to swing it. But your experience supports it. I don’t know what to think.

    Certainly one thing is true – demographically Trump had it much, much tougher. Tougher than any Republican has had it.

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  101. Anonym says:
    @Truth
    Sviggy, 10 years of hard work and you've finally made the big time, you Shun ovaBitch!!

    Sviggy, 10 years of hard work and you’ve finally made the big time, you Shun ovaBitch!!

    SWPL Stormfront ftw!

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  102. @JohnnyWalker123
    Newspaper employment is collapsing.

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/809237663786160128

    It seems like a lot of responders are saying “to hell with the newspapers!”

    Yet iSteve readers probably want more local jobs and care about their communities. National newspapers like the NYT often regurgitate the diligent reporting of local reporters that (liberal or not) care about their communities and do a lot of legwork, such as record requests from local agencies.

    I want regional newspapers to succeed because the alternative is clickbait sites regurgitating fact-free social media hullabaloo. I’d prefer that smart young people go to work for a good local paper instead of moving to a coastal city to work for BuzzFeed or some other clickbait site.

    The decline in newspaper employment is another effect of the parasitic globalist agenda. One needs only to look at recent WaPo scandals to see how badly this works out in the long run.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Good in theory about regional newspapers, but look how Warren Buffett has bought up so many small town newspapers (a slightly different market but still important) to be the only written game in town for readers and advertisers. The internet delivery channel can do many things for news and products but there are still exploitable markets for print journalism.
    , @Anonym
    I want regional newspapers to succeed too, but I want them to quit it with the anti-whiteness. If they don't respect me as a customer to hell with them.
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  103. JackOH says:
    @Bleuteaux
    As a discipline of the dismal science, I would love new economic statistics. Or example, instead of unemployment or even employment to population ratio, what is the percentage of FT private sector jobs as a percent of the overall population (would not include health care, etc). Or what percent of the adult population of any given town hold private sector, full time jobs compared to 50 years ago. Here in the rust belt I bet it's gone from 45 or 50% of adults to be 15% or so for the average town.

    Bleuteaux, good points. I live in a busted-up Rust Belt area. Some weeks ago I saw a published list of my area’s largest employers, and something like 13 of 16, or thereabouts, were government, education, or health care.

    My background is private sector. I helped found a small ad agency and made it grow. These days I’m semi-retired, and an insider-observer of our local Podunk Tech. Long story short–the rent-seeking nastiness, lard-assedness, and occasional complete indifference to the tax-paying constituents, tuition-paying students, and bill-paying patients boggles my mind. Plus, add corruption.

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    If you read up on Wikipedia about small municipalities in the US, the leading local employer is typically the medical center.
    , @res

    Some weeks ago I saw a published list of my area’s largest employers, and something like 13 of 16, or thereabouts, were government, education, or health care.
     
    It's amazing how true this has become in many places. One thing I don't see discussed much is the impact this has on property tax revenues. As I understand it much of these three "industries" is tax exempt.

    Here is an article about the larger problem of property tax exemptions: http://www.lohud.com/story/opinion/editorials/2016/11/03/time-rein-tax-exempt-new-york-editorial/93156658/
    , @Bleuteaux
    I would love to see someone do the numbers on this. Take a city like Cleveland. 70 years ago, what percent of the population were working adults with full time, private sector jobs. Compare with today. There's an additional 20% or whatever of the population that is minority and won't work, for starters. Generations of outsourcing, mergers later, what percent of the population is actually holding a full time, non minimum wage private sector job? Is it more than 15%? If you exclude FIRE and government contractors (eg road builders) jobs, is it more than 5%?
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  104. @dfordoom

    One question to the older readers here – did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump?
     
    In Australia at lest the media response to Reagan was just as hysterical as the response to Trump.

    The difference is that Reagan was portrayed as a crazed warmonger. Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing. These days it's generally seen as a good thing.

    “Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing.”

    At the 1983 Conservative Party youth conference the DJ and comedian Kenny Everett was the warm-up act – he opened by walking onstage and shouting “Let’s bomb Russia!” to huge cheers. I don’t think anyone in the audience took him seriously, but the Guardian were absolutely horrified.

    Now the valenki seems to be on the other foot.

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    Damn, I can't even go grammar sperg on you: if written 'properly' - "now the valenok seems to be on the other foot," hardly anyone would know what you were referring to.

    I'll never forget how precious Shukhov's valenki were to him, and the care he took of them.

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  105. @JackOH
    Bleuteaux, good points. I live in a busted-up Rust Belt area. Some weeks ago I saw a published list of my area's largest employers, and something like 13 of 16, or thereabouts, were government, education, or health care.

    My background is private sector. I helped found a small ad agency and made it grow. These days I'm semi-retired, and an insider-observer of our local Podunk Tech. Long story short--the rent-seeking nastiness, lard-assedness, and occasional complete indifference to the tax-paying constituents, tuition-paying students, and bill-paying patients boggles my mind. Plus, add corruption.

    If you read up on Wikipedia about small municipalities in the US, the leading local employer is typically the medical center.

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    don't forget: College town. My long-time carpenter friend, is interviewing with a college (dream job for a carpenter) to become part of their "physical plant" team, with a yuge chance to become superintendent. Once you're in your late 40's, you have to find easier work for literally, your back's sake...or rotator cuff.
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  106. donut says:
    @Anonymous
    OT:

    https://www.thelocal.de/20170106/im-an-american-and-i-was-racially-profiled-in-berlin-23-times

    'I'm an American and I was racially profiled in Berlin 23 times'

    American journalist Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by police 23 times within her first nine months of living in Berlin. Now she's investigating racial profiling in Germany - and is looking for others to share experiences.

    The first time 24-year-old Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by an officer in Berlin, she had gone to a park for a morning jog after arriving in the city days before.

    The officer asked her what she was doing, where she lived, and for her ID. When she told him she only had her keys, he said she should always carry identification and left.

    At first she thought it was a one-time incident: yet another new German thing she would learn as she came to know her new home.

    “When I was stopped, I was so jet-lagged and tired that day that I honestly didn’t even know what was going on,” she told The Local.

    By the third time, Kambhampati says she knew something wasn’t right.

    “I thought, ‘this is annoying. Now it’s getting frustrating’,” Kambhampati says. “It wasn’t just one or two times.”
     

    I don’t believe it .

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  107. It’s impossible to get an objective picture of national issues, by any means. What Steve and people like him do (discredit various silly narratives) is vital but is not a substitute for objective journalism of a nation of 350 million spread over 5+ time zones. That is impossible.

    This is why the federal government’s powers are supposed to be limited by the constitution. It’s also why any kind of world government would be inherently tyrannical.

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  108. @Better Blue State and Red Than Dead
    Hey there - 54 year old here.

    I started college in the early '80s, and yes - the vituperative attacks against Reagan were insane. "He will nuke us all!!!". He will "put black people in camps!!!", etc.

    Some things never change. You had to be there, as it was pre-internets/webs.

    I recall that too and so I’m not impressed when the left claims that the vituperation they direct at Trump is only because he is the most extreme, ultra, rightwing fascist who was ever elected president. They applied the same terms to Reagan, whom they now pretend to have considered a respectable Republican. From last summer’s DNC Convention:

    In a brief speech Wednesday, California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom criticized Republican nominee Donald Trump as someone who had tarnished the legacy of the Republican president, who famously called for the Soviet Union to tear down the Berlin Wall.

    “Trump strangled the sunny optimism of Ronald Reagan and replaced ‘tear down that wall’ with the cynical bigotry of ‘build that wall,’” he said.

    Later that night, President Obama made a similar argument in his keynote address, citing a biblical metaphor that Reagan used on the campaign and in his farewell address as president.

    “Ronald Reagan called America ‘a shining city on a hill,’” he said. “Donald Trump calls it ‘a divided crime scene’ that only he can fix.”

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  109. @Anonym
    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minutes
    “On August 11, 1984, United States President Ronald Reagan, while running for re-election, was preparing to make his weekly Saturday radio address on National Public Radio. During a sound check before the address, Reagan made the following joke to the radio technicians: “My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.” The joke was a parody of the opening line of that day’s speech”

    The usual suspects were horrified. Part of Reagan’s act was to appear somewhat unbalanced and that scared the Commies.

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    I knew about that Reagan joke. What I didn't know was that it was to NPR. NPR! What a shitlord.
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  110. cipher says:
    @Old fogey
    Hear! Hear! All true. The NYT can't even edit its prose correctly any more.

    That and the reporters have interesting and unusual names which is an indicator of success in upending that which came before which is the real measure of excellence.

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  111. res says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Slim's investment in the NYT was a brilliant bargain.

    Agreed, but that’s probably true of almost any purchase of US stocks or real estate in (early?) 2009. Buy when there’s blood in the streets.

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  112. Bill says:
    @Anonym
    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

    It’s a hard question to answer. The attacks on Trump certainly seemed less bad than those on Reagan to me. On the other hand, I don’t consume all that much main-stream media any more. Back in 1980, the entire broadcast and almost the entire print media were lefty. There wasn’t conservative talk radio (whatever you think of that medium). There wasn’t the internet. So, back in 1980 probably the concentration of the toxin was lower, but the total volume was higher.

    Another aspect is the heterogeneity in dose. What I have replaced the MSM with in my media consumption is a variety of far-right stuff. What others have replaced it with is even more demented leftism. So, for some people, undoubtedly the total toxin delivered is higher. E.g., I can’t imagine watching Rachel Maddow regularly. But there are people who do. Those people received a much higher dose of crazy-train, leftist hatred against Trump than they would have received against Reagan in the 1980.

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    Another aspect is the heterogeneity in dose. What I have replaced the MSM with in my media consumption is a variety of far-right stuff. What others have replaced it with is even more demented leftism. So, for some people, undoubtedly the total toxin delivered is higher. E.g., I can’t imagine watching Rachel Maddow regularly. But there are people who do. Those people received a much higher dose of crazy-train, leftist hatred against Trump than they would have received against Reagan in the 1980.

    The division in society is not going back in the tube either. In addition to the echo chamber effect there is the ethnic division. Civil war, cold or hot, is the logical endpoint. It is possible we get a situation where there is AA for white people - others are strongly encouraged to emigrate.
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  113. Bill says:
    @Verymuchalive
    As a result of The Telecommunications Act of 1996, 6 mega-companies now control 90% of American media outlets. Thank you, Bill Clinton.
    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34789-democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications -act
    This is the very epitome of oligopoly. Not very surprisingly, These oligopolists returned the favour by uniformly supporting Hillary Clinton, the wife of Bill, for the Presidency and maligning her opponent, Donald Trump, relentlessly. The present situation is an affront to a free society.
    Mr Trump must make it one of his first policies to get the act repealed and proper competition reinstated. He might look at the original Telecommunications Act of 1934 for guidance. Cross Holdings must be banned. The number of newspapers, radio, TV stations etc that each company can control must be drastically reduced. Companies must be broken up, forcibly if need be.
    This is Trump's Teddy Roosevelt moment. As Roosevelt put John D. Rockefeller in his place, this is the time for Donald Trump to put Carlos Slim and Keith Rupert Murdoch in their places.
    Also, it's in Trump's own interests. Break up these companies and at least some of the newly independent outlets will be pro-Trump.

    Trump could grow in office, but introducing lots of new regulations isn’t what he promised to do. In fact, he has held himself out as a pretty standard pro-deregulation pseudo-conservative.

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    This wouldn't mean introducing new regulations, just reintroducing the 1934 Telecommunications Act, and make the oligopolists conform.
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  114. Bill says:
    @Anonym
    Not exactly a field you’d recommend to your kids.

    Yeah, all you've got to do is be a national merit scholar, and implore your readers to help you buy a kitchen or the like every quarter. No pressure, no pressure!

    Heck, the kids moving to LA looking for a career in Hollywood have more realistic expectations of success than the aspiring professional blogger. We are lucky that our idealistic host had no experience or qualifications in market research before deciding to plunge ahead in such a career. What's that you say?

    "I would buy these products."

    Right. The likely future of journalism is 1) as a function of non-profit organizations and 2) as an expensive, paid service for the elites.

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  115. res says:
    @JackOH
    Bleuteaux, good points. I live in a busted-up Rust Belt area. Some weeks ago I saw a published list of my area's largest employers, and something like 13 of 16, or thereabouts, were government, education, or health care.

    My background is private sector. I helped found a small ad agency and made it grow. These days I'm semi-retired, and an insider-observer of our local Podunk Tech. Long story short--the rent-seeking nastiness, lard-assedness, and occasional complete indifference to the tax-paying constituents, tuition-paying students, and bill-paying patients boggles my mind. Plus, add corruption.

    Some weeks ago I saw a published list of my area’s largest employers, and something like 13 of 16, or thereabouts, were government, education, or health care.

    It’s amazing how true this has become in many places. One thing I don’t see discussed much is the impact this has on property tax revenues. As I understand it much of these three “industries” is tax exempt.

    Here is an article about the larger problem of property tax exemptions: http://www.lohud.com/story/opinion/editorials/2016/11/03/time-rein-tax-exempt-new-york-editorial/93156658/

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  116. benjaminl says:
    @theo the kraut
    There's plenty of those among liberal women, I'm surrounded by them where I live. ('vibrant' quarter of Berlin)
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    Twisted rube-goldbergian schemes of denial and excuse, as in the US.
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  117. NOTA says:
    @Boomstick
    Any reader of Steve should know that some facts matter and some are inconvenient and therefore not to be mentioned. What entities promote one set of facts, and suppress others?

    I’d rather have all the facts openly discussed in the same place, myself.

    A common feature of MSM reporting on politically sensitive topics is that they won’t lie, exactly, but they also won’t volunteer information that undermines their narrative, or sometimes they’ll bury that information at the end of the story. I’ve noticed this often in NPR reporting–they’re not going to make stuff up, but they will avoid discussing relevant things that mess up the story they want to tell.

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  118. @FPD72
    Trump was attacked by the media more than any presidential candidate during my lifetime. Second worst was Goldwater in 1964. Third was Reagan in 1980. The media hated Nixon and Johnson, but the attacks were more during their administrations, not as much during their campaigns. After all, Johnson ran against Goldwater, but it seemed as though the press turned on LBJ, mainly about Vietnam, the day after he crushed Goldwater in the election.

    Here is one measure of how much more Trump has been opposed by the media than was Reagan: the number of newspapers which endorsed each as a Presidential candidate:

    http://noahveltman.com/endorsements/

    Reagan garnered 47 1/2 in 1980; Trump only 2 in 2016.

    Hard to dispute the significance of numbers like that.

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  119. @Anonymous Nephew
    "Back in those days being a crazed warmonger was seen as a bad thing."

    At the 1983 Conservative Party youth conference the DJ and comedian Kenny Everett was the warm-up act - he opened by walking onstage and shouting "Let's bomb Russia!" to huge cheers. I don't think anyone in the audience took him seriously, but the Guardian were absolutely horrified.

    Now the valenki seems to be on the other foot.

    Damn, I can’t even go grammar sperg on you: if written ‘properly’ – “now the valenok seems to be on the other foot,” hardly anyone would know what you were referring to.

    I’ll never forget how precious Shukhov’s valenki were to him, and the care he took of them.

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  120. @benjaminl
    How did they react to the arson-fugees?

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/outrage-after-seven-young-refugees-9523175

    Twisted rube-goldbergian schemes of denial and excuse, as in the US.

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  121. Ivy says:
    @Reginald Maplethorp
    It seems like a lot of responders are saying "to hell with the newspapers!"

    Yet iSteve readers probably want more local jobs and care about their communities. National newspapers like the NYT often regurgitate the diligent reporting of local reporters that (liberal or not) care about their communities and do a lot of legwork, such as record requests from local agencies.

    I want regional newspapers to succeed because the alternative is clickbait sites regurgitating fact-free social media hullabaloo. I'd prefer that smart young people go to work for a good local paper instead of moving to a coastal city to work for BuzzFeed or some other clickbait site.

    The decline in newspaper employment is another effect of the parasitic globalist agenda. One needs only to look at recent WaPo scandals to see how badly this works out in the long run.

    Good in theory about regional newspapers, but look how Warren Buffett has bought up so many small town newspapers (a slightly different market but still important) to be the only written game in town for readers and advertisers. The internet delivery channel can do many things for news and products but there are still exploitable markets for print journalism.

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  122. Anonym says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minutes
    "On August 11, 1984, United States President Ronald Reagan, while running for re-election, was preparing to make his weekly Saturday radio address on National Public Radio. During a sound check before the address, Reagan made the following joke to the radio technicians: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." The joke was a parody of the opening line of that day's speech"

    The usual suspects were horrified. Part of Reagan's act was to appear somewhat unbalanced and that scared the Commies.

    I knew about that Reagan joke. What I didn’t know was that it was to NPR. NPR! What a shitlord.

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  123. Anonym says:
    @Reginald Maplethorp
    It seems like a lot of responders are saying "to hell with the newspapers!"

    Yet iSteve readers probably want more local jobs and care about their communities. National newspapers like the NYT often regurgitate the diligent reporting of local reporters that (liberal or not) care about their communities and do a lot of legwork, such as record requests from local agencies.

    I want regional newspapers to succeed because the alternative is clickbait sites regurgitating fact-free social media hullabaloo. I'd prefer that smart young people go to work for a good local paper instead of moving to a coastal city to work for BuzzFeed or some other clickbait site.

    The decline in newspaper employment is another effect of the parasitic globalist agenda. One needs only to look at recent WaPo scandals to see how badly this works out in the long run.

    I want regional newspapers to succeed too, but I want them to quit it with the anti-whiteness. If they don’t respect me as a customer to hell with them.

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  124. Anonym says:
    @Bill
    It's a hard question to answer. The attacks on Trump certainly seemed less bad than those on Reagan to me. On the other hand, I don't consume all that much main-stream media any more. Back in 1980, the entire broadcast and almost the entire print media were lefty. There wasn't conservative talk radio (whatever you think of that medium). There wasn't the internet. So, back in 1980 probably the concentration of the toxin was lower, but the total volume was higher.

    Another aspect is the heterogeneity in dose. What I have replaced the MSM with in my media consumption is a variety of far-right stuff. What others have replaced it with is even more demented leftism. So, for some people, undoubtedly the total toxin delivered is higher. E.g., I can't imagine watching Rachel Maddow regularly. But there are people who do. Those people received a much higher dose of crazy-train, leftist hatred against Trump than they would have received against Reagan in the 1980.

    Another aspect is the heterogeneity in dose. What I have replaced the MSM with in my media consumption is a variety of far-right stuff. What others have replaced it with is even more demented leftism. So, for some people, undoubtedly the total toxin delivered is higher. E.g., I can’t imagine watching Rachel Maddow regularly. But there are people who do. Those people received a much higher dose of crazy-train, leftist hatred against Trump than they would have received against Reagan in the 1980.

    The division in society is not going back in the tube either. In addition to the echo chamber effect there is the ethnic division. Civil war, cold or hot, is the logical endpoint. It is possible we get a situation where there is AA for white people – others are strongly encouraged to emigrate.

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  125. @Anonymous
    OT:

    https://www.thelocal.de/20170106/im-an-american-and-i-was-racially-profiled-in-berlin-23-times

    'I'm an American and I was racially profiled in Berlin 23 times'

    American journalist Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by police 23 times within her first nine months of living in Berlin. Now she's investigating racial profiling in Germany - and is looking for others to share experiences.

    The first time 24-year-old Sandhya Kambhampati was stopped by an officer in Berlin, she had gone to a park for a morning jog after arriving in the city days before.

    The officer asked her what she was doing, where she lived, and for her ID. When she told him she only had her keys, he said she should always carry identification and left.

    At first she thought it was a one-time incident: yet another new German thing she would learn as she came to know her new home.

    “When I was stopped, I was so jet-lagged and tired that day that I honestly didn’t even know what was going on,” she told The Local.

    By the third time, Kambhampati says she knew something wasn’t right.

    “I thought, ‘this is annoying. Now it’s getting frustrating’,” Kambhampati says. “It wasn’t just one or two times.”
     

    Bored Journometer concludes that this easy-self- reinventing* Dravidian opportunist is 92% full of it:


    Almighty Vishnu gifts her with not one, or two, but whole twenty three Gestapo Close Encounters of the Third World Kind, but this passionate data-lover journo still failled every time to pull that smartphone camera from bungling butcrack of her joggsuit?!

    *Sandhya Kambhampati 1:
    ” is a sophomore studying broadcast journalism with a Spanish minor. This quarter, she is in Merida, Mexico. My dream is to become a reporter in a Latin American country, so this trip brings me one step closer to learning more about the culture of the Latin American people. I’ve previously been to India, England, Malaysia, Singapore, and a few other places, but have never been immersed in a country by myself.”

    https://ohiogoglobal.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/introducing-foreign-correspondent-sandhya-kambhampati/

    *Sandhya Kambhampati 2 :
    ” is a data journalist who is passionate about open records, data literacy and statistics. She’s interested in records retention policies and finding new ways for newsrooms to share their institutional knowledge with others…”

    https://opennews.org/what/fellowships/2016meet/

    Sandhya should tell us little bit more about Dalitful human rights conditions in the country from which her ancestors jogg-jet-legged themselves all the way to New Jersey…

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  126. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jefferson
    "So, PC has different human value for each people.

    If white value is put at 100…

    Jews score 150
    Blacks score 140(for those in US and South Africa. Blacks killed by blacks in Africa don’t count much. They score 30.)
    Homos score 140 too.

    Palestinians score 50.
    Muslims score 30 over there but 90 over here as they are ‘protected’ by Progs from ‘hateful whites’."

    Muslims score way higher than Jews and Homos on the Left Wing pyramid. Muslims murdered 4 Jews at a Kosher deli in France and they murdered a bunch of Homos in Orlando and the Left still refuses to classify Muslims as a basket of deplorables. The Left still wants to turn Western countries into Yemen.

    “Muslims score way higher than Jews and Homos on the Left Wing pyramid. Muslims murdered 4 Jews at a Kosher deli in France and they murdered a bunch of Homos in Orlando and the Left still refuses to classify Muslims as a basket of deplorables. The Left still wants to turn Western countries into Yemen.”

    France is different. French have French Guilt about North Africans because of the Algerian War that left a scar on French Conscience. After WWII, the French saw themselves as martyrs under German rule. But the war in Algeria got real nasty, and French were seen as Nazi-like.

    Both French Gentiles and French Jews have their own reasons for being pro-Muslim. French gentile leftists see it ‘national guilt’ over imperialism. It’s also a legacy of May 68, the ‘new leftism’ built on western intellectuals allied with Third World. For French Jews, siding with Muslims is a way to stick it to Catholic France that collaborated with Nazi Germany. It’s a way of saying ‘We Jews and Muslims as fellow victims of whites’. But, this narrative is falling apart because French Jews are too rich and cuz of Zionism.
    And of course, attacking Zionism is a way for the French Left to attack the US that is controlled by Zionists.

    In the US, the relative suppression of news of Muslim bad behavior by the Proglos has less to do with valuing Muslim Life than with maintaining the Diversity Coalition.
    After all, even with BDS, the majority of Democrats still favor Israel over Palestine. And the Progs were silent about US destruction of Libya and US aiding terrorists to mess up Syria. And the Clintons have been blamed big time for their crime policy in the 90s but there is hardly any talk of how the sanctions on Iraq killed 100,000s of kids. And one’s career is NOT destroyed in the US for badmouthing Muslims. ‘Islamophobia’ isn’t a career-killer. In many places, it is still a career-maker. It certainly didn’t hurt Trump.

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    "In the US, the relative suppression of news of Muslim bad behavior by the Proglos has less to do with valuing Muslim Life"

    It has everything to do with valueing Muslims lives over Homo lives. Muslims should have been considered public enemy number 1 in the eyes of The Left after the Muslim Omar Mateen shot up a Gay nightclub. Instead The Left doubled down on their support for more mass Muslim immigration. The Left believe that Omar Mateen's Muslim life matters a lot than the Homos he murdered which is why they did not even blame him for the killings, they blamed Donald J. Trump and The Republican Party for the killings. Leftists were out protesting with signs that said "GOP Hate Kills" after the Pulse nightclub shooting, even though Omar Mateen comes from a family of Democrats. His father was at a Crooked Hillary Clinton rally cheering her on.


    "After all, even with BDS, the majority of Democrats still favor Israel over Palestine."

    The majority of Democrats on college campuses support Palestine over Israel. A pro-Palestine rally in Berkeley, California.
    https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/amp/UC-Berkeley-students-stage-mock-checkpoint-in-7224491.php

    I can post a lot more examples if you want of pro-Palestime and pro-Islam in general rallies at Far Left Wing American universities that completely destroy your argument that Homos and Jews trump Muslims in The Social Justice Warrior Victim Food Chain.

    No demographic group on the planet hates Jews and Homos more than Muslims do. Their hatred of these 2 groups make White nationalists hatred of them seem extremely mild in comparison. Yet still nobody on the Left has changed their minds on Muslim immigration being a good thing.

    Anon how come you never see Social Justice Warriors on college campuses protest Islam's views on Jews, Homos, and women. How come you never hear them chant "Hey yo yo yo Islam's Homophobia, sexism, and anti-semitism has got to go".

    , @Harry Baldwin
    It's impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:

    Actor Isaiah Washington has said he “lost everything” after a heated scandal in 2007, in which he twice referred to a gay castmate as “faggot.”

    Isaiah Washington was dropped from hit US show Grey’s Anatomy in June 2007 after the incident broke out, where actor T.R. Knight alleged that he used the anti-gay slur against him while on set, and that “everybody heard him.”

    The controversy then cooled for a period, until Washington made matters worse by reiterating the slur to a tabloid reporter at the Globe Awards, saying: “I never called T.R. Knight a ‘faggot.’”

    He has since revealed that he has “lost everything” following the scandal because no one in Hollywood has wanted to hire him.
     
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  127. @Bill
    Trump could grow in office, but introducing lots of new regulations isn't what he promised to do. In fact, he has held himself out as a pretty standard pro-deregulation pseudo-conservative.

    This wouldn’t mean introducing new regulations, just reintroducing the 1934 Telecommunications Act, and make the oligopolists conform.

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  128. Bleuteaux says:
    @JackOH
    Bleuteaux, good points. I live in a busted-up Rust Belt area. Some weeks ago I saw a published list of my area's largest employers, and something like 13 of 16, or thereabouts, were government, education, or health care.

    My background is private sector. I helped found a small ad agency and made it grow. These days I'm semi-retired, and an insider-observer of our local Podunk Tech. Long story short--the rent-seeking nastiness, lard-assedness, and occasional complete indifference to the tax-paying constituents, tuition-paying students, and bill-paying patients boggles my mind. Plus, add corruption.

    I would love to see someone do the numbers on this. Take a city like Cleveland. 70 years ago, what percent of the population were working adults with full time, private sector jobs. Compare with today. There’s an additional 20% or whatever of the population that is minority and won’t work, for starters. Generations of outsourcing, mergers later, what percent of the population is actually holding a full time, non minimum wage private sector job? Is it more than 15%? If you exclude FIRE and government contractors (eg road builders) jobs, is it more than 5%?

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  129. @carol
    Huh. I spent a summer in a newsroom as a paid intern in 1988. Average age was 36, all the guys had beards and the women were having their first babies. They all drove the same kind of cars, Toyotas, Saabs, old Volvos in neutral metallic colors.

    No one was overtly political but you got this feeling...one guy stuck his neck out and confessed he really, really hated child molesters. It was thing with him, you know.

    I never felt so cut off from the world as when I was in that place. You couldn't just wander about looking for stories, or at least I couldn't. The best stories came from stringers.

    After that I went with an IT company. The fast writing to deadline was good experience for proposals. After that I heard how newspaper business was tanking..heh..

    Sometimes I think extreme political correctness was invented to drive conservative/apolitical liberal arts graduates out of the shrinking pool of white collar jobs for liberal arts graduates. PC really picked up in the 1990s when the graduate job market started to shrink due to technology changes and graduate over-supply.

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  130. Lagertha says:
    @Steve Sailer
    If you read up on Wikipedia about small municipalities in the US, the leading local employer is typically the medical center.

    don’t forget: College town. My long-time carpenter friend, is interviewing with a college (dream job for a carpenter) to become part of their “physical plant” team, with a yuge chance to become superintendent. Once you’re in your late 40′s, you have to find easier work for literally, your back’s sake…or rotator cuff.

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  131. Jefferson says:
    @Anon
    "Muslims score way higher than Jews and Homos on the Left Wing pyramid. Muslims murdered 4 Jews at a Kosher deli in France and they murdered a bunch of Homos in Orlando and the Left still refuses to classify Muslims as a basket of deplorables. The Left still wants to turn Western countries into Yemen."

    France is different. French have French Guilt about North Africans because of the Algerian War that left a scar on French Conscience. After WWII, the French saw themselves as martyrs under German rule. But the war in Algeria got real nasty, and French were seen as Nazi-like.

    Both French Gentiles and French Jews have their own reasons for being pro-Muslim. French gentile leftists see it 'national guilt' over imperialism. It's also a legacy of May 68, the 'new leftism' built on western intellectuals allied with Third World. For French Jews, siding with Muslims is a way to stick it to Catholic France that collaborated with Nazi Germany. It's a way of saying 'We Jews and Muslims as fellow victims of whites'. But, this narrative is falling apart because French Jews are too rich and cuz of Zionism.
    And of course, attacking Zionism is a way for the French Left to attack the US that is controlled by Zionists.

    In the US, the relative suppression of news of Muslim bad behavior by the Proglos has less to do with valuing Muslim Life than with maintaining the Diversity Coalition.
    After all, even with BDS, the majority of Democrats still favor Israel over Palestine. And the Progs were silent about US destruction of Libya and US aiding terrorists to mess up Syria. And the Clintons have been blamed big time for their crime policy in the 90s but there is hardly any talk of how the sanctions on Iraq killed 100,000s of kids. And one's career is NOT destroyed in the US for badmouthing Muslims. 'Islamophobia' isn't a career-killer. In many places, it is still a career-maker. It certainly didn't hurt Trump.

    “In the US, the relative suppression of news of Muslim bad behavior by the Proglos has less to do with valuing Muslim Life”

    It has everything to do with valueing Muslims lives over Homo lives. Muslims should have been considered public enemy number 1 in the eyes of The Left after the Muslim Omar Mateen shot up a Gay nightclub. Instead The Left doubled down on their support for more mass Muslim immigration. The Left believe that Omar Mateen’s Muslim life matters a lot than the Homos he murdered which is why they did not even blame him for the killings, they blamed Donald J. Trump and The Republican Party for the killings. Leftists were out protesting with signs that said “GOP Hate Kills” after the Pulse nightclub shooting, even though Omar Mateen comes from a family of Democrats. His father was at a Crooked Hillary Clinton rally cheering her on.

    “After all, even with BDS, the majority of Democrats still favor Israel over Palestine.”

    The majority of Democrats on college campuses support Palestine over Israel. A pro-Palestine rally in Berkeley, California.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/amp/UC-Berkeley-students-stage-mock-checkpoint-in-7224491.php

    I can post a lot more examples if you want of pro-Palestime and pro-Islam in general rallies at Far Left Wing American universities that completely destroy your argument that Homos and Jews trump Muslims in The Social Justice Warrior Victim Food Chain.

    No demographic group on the planet hates Jews and Homos more than Muslims do. Their hatred of these 2 groups make White nationalists hatred of them seem extremely mild in comparison. Yet still nobody on the Left has changed their minds on Muslim immigration being a good thing.

    Anon how come you never see Social Justice Warriors on college campuses protest Islam’s views on Jews, Homos, and women. How come you never hear them chant “Hey yo yo yo Islam’s Homophobia, sexism, and anti-semitism has got to go”.

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  132. sayless says:
    @Anonym
    What is "clown world paradigm"?

    Oh, they are not beaten but their monopoly power is an eternity away from what it was in the days when the internet was a geek-only paradise. There were probably some jobs that got eliminated by computers but most of the rest has been due to the internet providing free news.

    That the media has been forced to cover the recent torturing of that disabled white guy and even Obama condemning it as a hate crime is symbolic of how low the media has been brought down. I don’t hate them just to hate them but they have been the ones pushing white genocide for my entire life so it couldn't happen to a nicer group of assholes.

    One question to the older readers here - did the media/press advocate against Reagan as staunchly as they did vs Trump? With Trump, even the kitchen sink was thrown at literal Hitler but still they failed.

    Did the media/press advocate against Reagan

    Not as I recall. The leftwing bias was there but the establishment press really hated Carter so that may have dulled their knives a bit. 1984–no, no comparison.

    No presidential campaign in my lifetime has had such insane coverage. Standards absolutely evaporated, it’s been a genuine shock.

    I attribute it to a decline in the public culture, including simple good manners, as the left has become more dominant and social conservatism has come under attack more and more. Conservatives are more likely to be courteous to their politically opposed acquaintances, IME.

    By the way, the 1980 campaign was the first in which a lot of column inches were devoted to what kind of images of themselves the candidates were trying to get across. Lots of analysis of TV ads, the sales technique was much more in the foreground, the strategy of the sa!es technique became as important as policy differences. It was striking, how different the coverage was to what it had been before.

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    Also: In earlier campaigns the voters themselves have not been described with such contempt, a huge cohort of people.

    Hillary's "deplorables" remark was made at a public event. It was paralleled throughout the season by coverage that discussed Trump supporters as if they were freaks. As if no rational human being could possibly support him.

    Thank God, they made themselves complacent.

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  133. @NOTA
    One reason the fact checking matters is that otherwise, Wikileaks or whomever else ends up completely the captive of their sources, with no ability to distinguish between when they're helping spread true stuff or lies or a mix of the two.

    It costs little to produce made-up electronic documents proving your favorite conspiracy theory. Before I breathlessly read them, I'd like to know they really came from the CIA or Banknof America or the Democratic Party or wherever else, that they're consistent with what else is known, not obviously wrong, etc.

    No objections from Democrats about the veracity of Wikileaks’ released emails. Julian Assange is not a moron, who will put out anything anonymous sources send him.

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  134. Truth says:
    @Jefferson
    The Chinese city of Guangzhou has a large African immigrant population. If a bunch of African immigrants in Guangzhou had kidnapped a mentally handicapped Chinese guy and tortured him and put the video on China's version of Facebook which is called Renren, I wonder if the Chinese government would have given the African immigrants the death penalty? I don't think accusations of anti-Black racism from The U.S and The United Nations would deter the Chinese goverment from frying the African immigrants because the Chinese government feel no White guilt.

    Nobody “kidnapped” anyone. This was high school theatre with actors, as is literally every international news story.

    It’s called television PROGRAMMING, N….!

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  135. sayless says:
    @sayless
    Did the media/press advocate against Reagan

    Not as I recall. The leftwing bias was there but the establishment press really hated Carter so that may have dulled their knives a bit. 1984--no, no comparison.

    No presidential campaign in my lifetime has had such insane coverage. Standards absolutely evaporated, it's been a genuine shock.

    I attribute it to a decline in the public culture, including simple good manners, as the left has become more dominant and social conservatism has come under attack more and more. Conservatives are more likely to be courteous to their politically opposed acquaintances, IME.

    By the way, the 1980 campaign was the first in which a lot of column inches were devoted to what kind of images of themselves the candidates were trying to get across. Lots of analysis of TV ads, the sales technique was much more in the foreground, the strategy of the sa!es technique became as important as policy differences. It was striking, how different the coverage was to what it had been before.

    Also: In earlier campaigns the voters themselves have not been described with such contempt, a huge cohort of people.

    Hillary’s “deplorables” remark was made at a public event. It was paralleled throughout the season by coverage that discussed Trump supporters as if they were freaks. As if no rational human being could possibly support him.

    Thank God, they made themselves complacent.

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  136. @Anon
    "Muslims score way higher than Jews and Homos on the Left Wing pyramid. Muslims murdered 4 Jews at a Kosher deli in France and they murdered a bunch of Homos in Orlando and the Left still refuses to classify Muslims as a basket of deplorables. The Left still wants to turn Western countries into Yemen."

    France is different. French have French Guilt about North Africans because of the Algerian War that left a scar on French Conscience. After WWII, the French saw themselves as martyrs under German rule. But the war in Algeria got real nasty, and French were seen as Nazi-like.

    Both French Gentiles and French Jews have their own reasons for being pro-Muslim. French gentile leftists see it 'national guilt' over imperialism. It's also a legacy of May 68, the 'new leftism' built on western intellectuals allied with Third World. For French Jews, siding with Muslims is a way to stick it to Catholic France that collaborated with Nazi Germany. It's a way of saying 'We Jews and Muslims as fellow victims of whites'. But, this narrative is falling apart because French Jews are too rich and cuz of Zionism.
    And of course, attacking Zionism is a way for the French Left to attack the US that is controlled by Zionists.

    In the US, the relative suppression of news of Muslim bad behavior by the Proglos has less to do with valuing Muslim Life than with maintaining the Diversity Coalition.
    After all, even with BDS, the majority of Democrats still favor Israel over Palestine. And the Progs were silent about US destruction of Libya and US aiding terrorists to mess up Syria. And the Clintons have been blamed big time for their crime policy in the 90s but there is hardly any talk of how the sanctions on Iraq killed 100,000s of kids. And one's career is NOT destroyed in the US for badmouthing Muslims. 'Islamophobia' isn't a career-killer. In many places, it is still a career-maker. It certainly didn't hurt Trump.

    It’s impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:

    Actor Isaiah Washington has said he “lost everything” after a heated scandal in 2007, in which he twice referred to a gay castmate as “faggot.”

    Isaiah Washington was dropped from hit US show Grey’s Anatomy in June 2007 after the incident broke out, where actor T.R. Knight alleged that he used the anti-gay slur against him while on set, and that “everybody heard him.”

    The controversy then cooled for a period, until Washington made matters worse by reiterating the slur to a tabloid reporter at the Globe Awards, saying: “I never called T.R. Knight a ‘faggot.’”

    He has since revealed that he has “lost everything” following the scandal because no one in Hollywood has wanted to hire him.

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    "It’s impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:"

    If Omar Mateen was Black nobody in the mainstream media would be saying there is rampant Homophobia in the African American community. They would blame the Pulse nightclub shooting on him adopting Homophobic White supremacist culture or on lack of jobs in the African American community which ties back to systematic racism or all of the above.

    In the mainstream media lack of jobs in the African American is always blamed on White supremacy and never on open borders.

    , @Jefferson
    "“It’s impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:”

    If Omar Mateen was Black nobody in the mainstream media would be saying there is rampant Homophobia in the African American community. They would blame the Pulse nightclub shooting on him adopting Homophobic White supremacist culture or on lack of jobs in the African American community which ties back to systematic racism or all of the above.

    The mainstream media always blame the lack of jobs in the African American conmunity on White supremacy and never on open borders. The mainstream media can just classify all of the Mexicans, Caribbean Latinos, and Central Americans who take fast food jobs away from the African American underclass as 'White Hispanics" and presto it's still Whitey's fault.

    The Burger King in Inglewood, California used to be entirely staffed by African Americans, but they were all laid off and replaced by "White Hispanics". White supremacy strikes again, lol.

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  137. Jefferson says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    It's impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:

    Actor Isaiah Washington has said he “lost everything” after a heated scandal in 2007, in which he twice referred to a gay castmate as “faggot.”

    Isaiah Washington was dropped from hit US show Grey’s Anatomy in June 2007 after the incident broke out, where actor T.R. Knight alleged that he used the anti-gay slur against him while on set, and that “everybody heard him.”

    The controversy then cooled for a period, until Washington made matters worse by reiterating the slur to a tabloid reporter at the Globe Awards, saying: “I never called T.R. Knight a ‘faggot.’”

    He has since revealed that he has “lost everything” following the scandal because no one in Hollywood has wanted to hire him.
     

    “It’s impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:”

    If Omar Mateen was Black nobody in the mainstream media would be saying there is rampant Homophobia in the African American community. They would blame the Pulse nightclub shooting on him adopting Homophobic White supremacist culture or on lack of jobs in the African American community which ties back to systematic racism or all of the above.

    In the mainstream media lack of jobs in the African American is always blamed on White supremacy and never on open borders.

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  138. Jefferson says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    It's impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:

    Actor Isaiah Washington has said he “lost everything” after a heated scandal in 2007, in which he twice referred to a gay castmate as “faggot.”

    Isaiah Washington was dropped from hit US show Grey’s Anatomy in June 2007 after the incident broke out, where actor T.R. Knight alleged that he used the anti-gay slur against him while on set, and that “everybody heard him.”

    The controversy then cooled for a period, until Washington made matters worse by reiterating the slur to a tabloid reporter at the Globe Awards, saying: “I never called T.R. Knight a ‘faggot.’”

    He has since revealed that he has “lost everything” following the scandal because no one in Hollywood has wanted to hire him.
     

    ““It’s impossible to come up with a victim-status totem pole that is going to be reliably accurate. The relative victim-status seems to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Most of these hierarchical lists put blacks above gays, but there is the counter example of Isiah Washington:”

    If Omar Mateen was Black nobody in the mainstream media would be saying there is rampant Homophobia in the African American community. They would blame the Pulse nightclub shooting on him adopting Homophobic White supremacist culture or on lack of jobs in the African American community which ties back to systematic racism or all of the above.

    The mainstream media always blame the lack of jobs in the African American conmunity on White supremacy and never on open borders. The mainstream media can just classify all of the Mexicans, Caribbean Latinos, and Central Americans who take fast food jobs away from the African American underclass as ‘White Hispanics” and presto it’s still Whitey’s fault.

    The Burger King in Inglewood, California used to be entirely staffed by African Americans, but they were all laid off and replaced by “White Hispanics”. White supremacy strikes again, lol.

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