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We’ve had a lot of rape accusations involving college football and basketball players over the years, but the players seldom look like Haven Monahan, so media attention has been tepid. After all, when, say, the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback on the national championship football team is accused of raping a coed, is that really a very interesting news story? Who really wants to read about rape charges against football players at Florida State, USC, Notre Dame, or Navy? I mean, do liberals want to read about blacks raping whites? Do conservatives want to read about how maybe big time college football isn’t such a hot idea? (The easiest way to win as a recruiter is by scraping the bottom of the academic and criminal behavior barrels harder than the other coaches dare to unleash on campus.)

But how does all this push the Hunt for the Great White Defendant? That’s the important thing, right?

In contrast, rape accusations against college lacrosse players were massive national news, not because anybody cares about college lacrosse, but because lacrosse players tend to be white and the stripper and future murderer making up the charges was black.

Ace newshound Jon Krakauer, however, has finally solved the problem by finding a minor league, fairly white college football program in the middle of nowhere: the U. of Montana in Missoula, which plays in what used to be called Division I-AA along with Appalachian State, Eastern Washington, and other teams you probably don’t care about.

Granted, the news in Krakauer’s Missoula isn’t very new. The New York Times was more enthusiastic about covering the rape charge against the U. of Montana quarterback than it was for a long time in covering the rape charge against Florida St. Heisman trophy frontrunner Jameis Winston. The NYT ran three stories about the rape culture crisis at the U. of Montana tied to the allegations against the QB, but then had to run a fourth story noting that the quarterback had been acquitted after only 2.5 hours of deliberation. In fact, the prosecutor resigned in the middle of the case and joined the defense team.

So with the highest profile case in Missoula involving the quarterback turning into a dud, Krakauer fell back to writing about a second case involving a white football player, in which the jock was convicted and sentenced to ten years in prison. Which doesn’t sound like the system isn’t working …

And then Krakauer discovered that the rape rate in Missoula is below the national average, which was disappointing.

Did Krakauer ever use his journalistic skills to figure out why he shouldn’t have been surprised by the disproportion between the rape rate in Missoula and the intensity of New York Times and Time coverage? (Hint: Missoula is a mostly white town, so it’s more both more law-abiding and more likely to attract the Eye of Sauron.)

But the point is that we can finally obsess over a bunch of Haven Monahan-lookalike rapist football players, so Krakauer’s publisher has printed up 500,000 copies and rushed it into print to counter the UVA fallout. Krakauer explained to NPR:

The Rolling Stone fiasco really discouraged me. You know, I have written for Rolling Stone; these are good people.

No, they are not.

It’s a good magazine, and how they could have made so many blunders, this cascade of easily avoidable mistakes. …

I guess it will just have to remain one of those insoluble mysteries, Jon.

The sad thing is there’s a lot of doubters and haters out there who think women lie about rape and, you know, there isn’t a problem, and this is ammunition for them. And you know, the fact that my book was rushed into print — it originally wasn’t going to come out until next fall but my publisher and I decided, in part because of the Rolling Stone mess, that it’d be a good time to show this book …

 
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  1. TL says:

    Authorities in Delaware may have found the Great White Rape Defendant:

    http://m.newarkpostonline.com/crime_beat/article_a491f8ae-8e03-548d-973b-858a1bdb6893.html?mode=jqm

    Admittedly he’s only a soccer player and there’s likely to be some he said / she said here, but boy meets girl in bar, girl invites boy into her bedroom, girl wakes up with bruising on her neck, boy apologizes and tells her his name, girl calls cops within 2 hours. Plenty of blame to go around, but at least this dude appears to exist.

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    ...girl wakes up with bruises on her neck, boy apologizes and tells her his name...

    And people say chivalry is dead!

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  2. asdf says:

    Krak was/is a resident of Boulder, CO. The CU program was famous for it’s criminal, rapist student-athletes. Interesting that he didn’t make them the subject of his book. One can speculate why.

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    • Replies: @The Z Blog
    It's also famous for lunatic womyn making false accusations against those raping rapists on the football team. My recollection is the gals cratered the football program, got a lot of press and then it was quietly revealed to be mostly nonsense. IIRC, one of the players accused, a PPP, was found to have been in another state when the accuser said he raped her. That seems to happen a lot for some reason. I wonder why womyn are not rallying against interstate raping.
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  3. Dew says:

    News about black males raping white coeds is racist, so the NYT must be diverse in its reporting. Oh wait, is adding white guys diversity?

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  4. Do you mean U. of Montana for U. of Missouri? If so, please delete. If not, please delete!

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  5. @TL
    Authorities in Delaware may have found the Great White Rape Defendant:

    http://m.newarkpostonline.com/crime_beat/article_a491f8ae-8e03-548d-973b-858a1bdb6893.html?mode=jqm

    Admittedly he's only a soccer player and there's likely to be some he said / she said here, but boy meets girl in bar, girl invites boy into her bedroom, girl wakes up with bruising on her neck, boy apologizes and tells her his name, girl calls cops within 2 hours. Plenty of blame to go around, but at least this dude appears to exist.

    …girl wakes up with bruises on her neck, boy apologizes and tells her his name…

    And people say chivalry is dead!

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    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Why do I think that "bruises" on her neck really means "hickeys"?

    I remember catching hell in junior high school when my female "bruising victim" didn't discover her "bruises" until the mean girls laughingly pointed them out the next day in study hall (and started gossiping about how easy she was). She saved face by slapping me in the lunch room.

    Thank goodness girls weren't claiming rape back then to save face. I might have wound up in prison.
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  6. inertial says:

    This book was rushed to print specifically to prop up the failing Narrative after it was derailed by the Rolling Stone UVA fiasco. That’s not my speculation: Jon Krakauer says so himself.

    The sad thing is there’s a lot of doubters and haters out there who think women lie about rape and, you know, there isn’t a problem, and this is ammunition for them. And you know, the fact that my book was rushed into print — it originally wasn’t going to come out until next fall but my publisher and I decided, in part because of the Rolling Stone mess, that it’d be a good time to show this book; that no … the overwhelming majority, you know, of victims do not lie about rape.

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    The sad thing is there’s a lot of doubters and haters out there who think women lie about rape and, you know, there isn’t a problem, and this is ammunition for them. And you know, the fact that my book was rushed into print — it originally wasn’t going to come out until next fall but my publisher and I decided, in part because of the Rolling Stone mess, that it’d be a good time to show this book; that no … the overwhelming majority, you know, of victims do not lie about rape.
     
    That's a tautology. Of course, victims don't lie about rape, but we're not talking about victims. We're talking about accusers.
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  7. black sea says:

    I’ve commented on this before, but according to the president of UM, Krakauer never spoke with anyone from the university while researching this story. Seems like something you’d want to touch base on if you’re going to write a book about this. Oh well, I guess the facts were self-evident.

    I’ve read a fair amount of Krakauer’s work because I used to be involved in a lot of the stuff he once wrote about, like hiking and climbing. I’ve enjoyed his books and articles, but as a writer I think he can get in over his head pretty quickly when he strays too far from kayaks and caribiners. He doesn’t come across as the sharpest piton on the rack, if you know what I mean.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    exactly; by consistently straying away from kayaks, valleys in Utah, bears, who is going to buy his books? My husband was a big fan of him with "Into Thin Air," and we found the book about the Mormons fascinating yet, creepy - could this have painted Romney as too creepy for Americans? ...I know, that sounds utterly ridiculous!

    It was at this point that I started to worry that K was looking to find salacious topics that would sell. I found CM and his escapades in Alaska to be the next book that seemed to me to be exploiting an obviously delusional person who I had trouble reading about since I knew he would die.

    Why Montana? Is Montana (personally, very beloved) because of its majority white (Scandinavian, Dutch & German immigrants settled there long ago) population? Does Montana somehow conjure-up some idea that bad stuff can't possibly be happening at sensible, rugged mountain towns BUT it's all a mirage, and I'm gonna write about it?

    I have gone to Grizzlies and Bobcats football games, and, yes, they are in the highest div possible for the mountain states, but it is not like going to a Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama game. You can look up all those stats at UM & MSU and it pales in comparison with student misbehavior/crime compared to the Big 10, 12, SEC or elite universities like Wesleyan.

    In fact, why didn't Krakauer write a book about Wesleyan? It is a virtual trifecta of salaciousness and crime this past year: 1. a couple of rapes (@ 2 frats) 2. student has TBI falling from a 3rd floor window last year. 3. twelve students OD on Molly...3 students get kicked out for dealing. This was national news...names are printed...names are on Middletown police logs. There was no fear of anything being made-up by anyone. So What is K's grudge or intent with tainting UM? Is he falling into that Jerry Springer mode where you just wanna find something juicy to shock people...even if it will ruin the reputation of a school? a student? Has anyone really looked at the facts since he didn't speak to anyone at UM?

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman if there was any "rape culture" at MSU, and, he said no (they knew about Missoula, their rival, being painted as a "rape culture" school) but a drunk guy had walked into a women's shower and passed-out last fall. The campus police said he was so incoherent that they suspected he did not know he was in a women's shower in a co-ed dorm.
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  8. Tom says:

    The publisher ordered a half million copies?!? That seems awfully ambitious…

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  9. Drake says: • Website

    The press has a pattern of focusing on white crimes (UVA) while ignoring others, and of always taking the ani-white side in disputes (Duke Lacross, Ferguson.) This has the effect of demonizing white men. It’s not just that it paints a false picture of reality, it’s that it teaches people that it’s good and noble to criticize whites in an unfair manner. We see the results of this everywhere.

    We can’t fight against this kind of anti-white bigotry unless we recognize it and name it, over and over again. Until the overarching pattern is documented, clear and undeniable.

    Steve has the point that the left’s ideology is fringe vs core. But in practice, “fringe vs core” takes the form of anti-white bigotry. I imagine the typical journalist doesn’t wake up in the morning thinking to group libel whites, it’s more like they want to avoid “punching down” on a “vulnerable powerless minority.” But it is still functionally equivalent to anti-white bigotry, even if it’s not what they are consciously aiming for, even if they don’t realize they’re doing it. And it’s what we need to fight against.

    And by doing so we can fight anti-core, anti-majority sentiment at the same time. We say anti-white bigotry is wrong at the same time we say anti-majority sentiment is wrong. Majorities have the right to be proud of their heritage, meaning whites have a right to be proud of their heritage. That majorities have a right to a home and to pass it onto their children, meaning whites have a right to a home and to pass it onto their children. The general principle is enhanced by its prime example, they fit together hand in glove.

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    >>>>> We can’t fight against this kind of anti-white bigotry unless we recognize it and name it, over and over again.<<<<<<<

    Your strategy is ineffective. When dealing with a bully the most effective course of action is to raise the cost of bullying in terms of physical discomfort.

    Very few anti-white bullies harrass Muslims because Muslims will take action that causes physical discomfort.

    Bullying whites has near zero physical cost today. Therefore it will continue no matter how much "naming" of it you do.
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  10. Why are jewish writers so obsessed with the misdeeds of white gentiles? They’re obsessed with chronicling, amplifying and broadcasting them. What gives? Weird.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    1. Since when is Krakauer Jewish?

    2. One of his more recent scalps was David Oliver Relin, who certainly was Jewish, and was so mortified at having his name blackened that he committed suicide.
    , @CK
    One always chronicles the misdeeds of one's enemies and forgets the misdeeds of ones own.
    If ones enemy does not have enough misdeeds, one creates them out of thin air and markets them as truths.
    After the Boston Marathon bombing, the internets were full of bloviators and other deep thinkers analyzing the attack before any facts were in. One of my favourite memories of that period was two Jewish intellectuals in a discussion of the affair, hoping that it would be a white person that did the bombing not a semite. They were very happy that they were not whites in their own estimation. Granted that is the internet intellectual class and as such is probably not completely representative of current strands in Jewish Intellectual positions.
    , @Threecranes
    By compiling a litany of alleged "misdeeds of white gentiles", we Jews prepare the soil for eventual claims for reparations on behalf of the "victims". Of course, we will be there as lawyers to prepare their case and earn handsome fees in the process. But ultimately, the big payoff comes when the government, incapable of coughing up the dough for reparations, must turn to us (we Jewish bankers) for loans and then we will be right back in the drivers seat, financing governments just as we financed Kings during the 18th and 19 the century. And you poor fools thought that by investing Congress with the power to raise taxes and declare war that you were thereby preventing our ever holding the purse strings again.
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  11. Polynices says:

    How effing retarded. Even the anecdote quoted in the article sounds like BS — the alleged victim spent the night in bed with her alleged rapist after the assault because she didn’t want to walk home (through utterly safe nearly crime-free Missoula)! WTF? Maybe that’s why the cops were skeptical.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.
    , @Lot
    Lucretia killed herself in public so the Romans would believe her rape allegation. Women these days can't even not spend the night with the guy.

    This is a thing now actually, sleep with a guy multiple times and later decide it was rape:

    http://gawker.com/hip-alt-lit-editor-quits-public-writing-career-after-ra-1640785729
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  12. […] Steve Sailer posts about a new book by Jon Krakauer about a rape at a small college in Montana. He asks the question why the press, including the New York Times, has paid so much attention to this case, but not other rape cases at higher profile schools. He sees that the pattern is that cases in which the accused rapist is white gets coverage, while those in which the accused rapist is black get much less. […]

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  13. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Drake
    The press has a pattern of focusing on white crimes (UVA) while ignoring others, and of always taking the ani-white side in disputes (Duke Lacross, Ferguson.) This has the effect of demonizing white men. It's not just that it paints a false picture of reality, it's that it teaches people that it's good and noble to criticize whites in an unfair manner. We see the results of this everywhere.

    We can't fight against this kind of anti-white bigotry unless we recognize it and name it, over and over again. Until the overarching pattern is documented, clear and undeniable.

    Steve has the point that the left's ideology is fringe vs core. But in practice, "fringe vs core" takes the form of anti-white bigotry. I imagine the typical journalist doesn't wake up in the morning thinking to group libel whites, it's more like they want to avoid "punching down" on a "vulnerable powerless minority." But it is still functionally equivalent to anti-white bigotry, even if it's not what they are consciously aiming for, even if they don't realize they're doing it. And it's what we need to fight against.

    And by doing so we can fight anti-core, anti-majority sentiment at the same time. We say anti-white bigotry is wrong at the same time we say anti-majority sentiment is wrong. Majorities have the right to be proud of their heritage, meaning whites have a right to be proud of their heritage. That majorities have a right to a home and to pass it onto their children, meaning whites have a right to a home and to pass it onto their children. The general principle is enhanced by its prime example, they fit together hand in glove.

    >>>>> We can’t fight against this kind of anti-white bigotry unless we recognize it and name it, over and over again.<<<<<<<

    Your strategy is ineffective. When dealing with a bully the most effective course of action is to raise the cost of bullying in terms of physical discomfort.

    Very few anti-white bullies harrass Muslims because Muslims will take action that causes physical discomfort.

    Bullying whites has near zero physical cost today. Therefore it will continue no matter how much "naming" of it you do.

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    • Replies: @Horzabky
    On the other hand, Muslims are more disliked and mistrusted than any other religious community. Nevertheless, it's not a good thing to be considered good persons and be bullied by people who think that kindness is another word for weakness.

    See how white-basher Jeremiah Wright nevertheless chose to live in a 98% white neighborhood. He sure considered whites as good neighbors (otherwise, he would have lived in a neighborhood where his black brethren are the majority) but he earned his living bashing whites.

    That kind of behavior will only stop when whites become as reactive to offense as Jews are about anti-semitism.

    It will happen. It's even beginning to happen, because Christian whites are becoming minorities in their own countries. The only good thing will be that hate-mongers like Jeremiah Wright won't be as comfortable (euphemism) as they are today living among the very people they so like to demonize.
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  14. @Polynices
    How effing retarded. Even the anecdote quoted in the article sounds like BS -- the alleged victim spent the night in bed with her alleged rapist after the assault because she didn't want to walk home (through utterly safe nearly crime-free Missoula)! WTF? Maybe that's why the cops were skeptical.

    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn’t “sleep with” a standard euphemism for “have sex with”? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

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    • Replies: @notMyusualName
    There are actual guys and girls who are platonic friends who sometimes do this but it's pretty rare. It might be a more common thing among the millenials, among whom demasculinized boys are legion.

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more. Girl sleeps next to guy and is frustrated because guy tried to have sex with her even though she said that she only wanted to sleep and nothing more.

    I used to take feminism seriously and a few year ago I would have proudly boasted about my ability to "respect" any girl by not initiating anything at all if the girl has not given me explicit permission.
    I can think of a few times when a girl got really frustrated because of that.
    , @Anonymous
    "It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her."

    I think it's especially common with younger women, a lot of whom are more coy about having sex and want to at least pretend like they're somewhat virtuous. Doing pretty much everything in bed except having sex is not at all uncommon in the early stages of a relationship, and before you get to the stage of having intercourse there is apt to be some uncertainty on the part of the girl, the guy, or both. Call me emasculated if you want, but the early stages of a physical relationship are an incredible turn on - maybe more so than sex itself.

    And remember that there's another term for the crap that goes on in bed before sex - foreplay. It's something that women especially are fond of. It ain't all about the grand finale, especially for women.

    , @Jonathan Silber
    Teach Women Not to Cuddle!
    , @anon
    It happened to me a few times with ex-girlfriends after they'd had extreme arguments with their current boyfriend - safety I guess. I don't know how common that is.
    , @Big Bill
    Decades ago on a cross-country motorcycle trip I stopped by a high school friend's apartment. She insisted I stay the night at her place instead of camping. I did. She insisted I stay in bed with her. I did. I fell asleep.

    I woke up to her fondling my penis. When I rolled over toward her, she said, "no ... no", so I rolled back and fell asleep again.

    Again she fondled my penis and woke me up. Without moving a muscle I said, "Now that you have it what are you going to do with it?" She withdrew her hand and left me alone for the rest of the night.

    Girls are weird.
    , @Anonymous
    I've shared a bed with a chick before. She was quite good looking, too. I considered it a favor. It was one of those uncomfortable hotel situations. There were two men and two women. I dislike the idea of sharing a hotel bed with another guy as much as I dislike community showers.

    And this was somewhat off-topic and didn't contribute to the conversation at all.

    , @Twinkie

    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them?
     
    One of my roommates in college was the cuddle buddy of several women on our floor. Girls would come at night, cuddle a little, sleep next to him, and then leave in the morning. No sex. Not anything remotely sexual.

    He was not, er, what one would call manly.

    Like I mentioned before, I came straight from my time toting a rifle, digging trenches, and eating some of the shittiest rations in the world on a cold, wet mountain in Asia, to this "paradise" of easy women, drugs, and rich kids on an Ivy League campus.

    This whole "cuddle buddy" thing, as with just about everything else, was a HUGE culture shock even though I went to a high school in NYC (where I got into a lot of fights with outside people, but otherwise studied hard, played sports, and went to church).

    Really, when one evaluates most major American university campuses in retrospect, they really are a strange world, a "bizarro" world, that is radically different than the real world (though the real world seems to be catching up quickly). I mean, you could deal copious amounts of drugs and nothing happens to you, but if you called someone an "avaricious Jew" or a "violent black man," you would be expelled.
    , @Stan Adams

    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them?
     
    Sure it's a thing, Steve ... it's called marriage.

    "Not tonight, honey."
    , @rick
    It is for Christian girls, which Montana might be full of. I suffered through it in the '80's.
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    OT but fired black cop Gerry Pickens is suing the Ortig, Washington police dept for racial discrimination. After things went sour his SUV was allegedly spray painted with the n-word and the message ‘sue cheif (sic) and pay’. Daily Mail had it as a lead story for awhile the other day. Probably another race hoax. Wonder how he usually spelled chief (chief)? Wants $5M.

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  16. iSteveFan says:

    For a moment I thought the book jacket had “Under the Banner of Haven” written on it. Are you kidding me? But my eyes must be getting bad. After clicking your image to expand, I saw I was wrong.

    PS. Steve you are on a tear. It’ll require a full time job for me to be able to keep up with all the posts and comments.

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    "Steve you are on a tear".
    Tim Blair catches up with Steve's 'Pokemon Points' leader-board.
    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/leftist_grievance_poker/
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  17. @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    There are actual guys and girls who are platonic friends who sometimes do this but it’s pretty rare. It might be a more common thing among the millenials, among whom demasculinized boys are legion.

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more. Girl sleeps next to guy and is frustrated because guy tried to have sex with her even though she said that she only wanted to sleep and nothing more.

    I used to take feminism seriously and a few year ago I would have proudly boasted about my ability to “respect” any girl by not initiating anything at all if the girl has not given me explicit permission.
    I can think of a few times when a girl got really frustrated because of that.

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    • Replies: @OhComeOn
    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn't be together to begin with.

    I'm a girl.

    Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn't.
    , @Gunnar von Cowtown

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more.
     
    Even Gen X women were starting to do this back in the late 90s. I've been out of the game for a while, but this odd behavior was typically exhibited by women looking down the barrel of a "notch-count" that's just a little too high to mesh with her sense of self-worth. A good girl knows that she shouldn't be in your bed this soon, and goes home. A good girl who is young/naive enough, totally into you and just can't help herself, will be expecting a long term relationship and she's probably imagining how cute your last name sounds with her first name. A slut just doesn't care. It's the girls who have been around the block and had their hearts broken a few times, yet aren't comfortable going full-on "Samantha" who tend to pull this stunt.

    It's not only a mindf*** for emasculated men, but also a mindf*** for high-T men raised to be honorable. The Roissy/Heartiste concepts of "shit-test", "anti-slut defense" and "last minute resistance" explain it all.

    If you behave yourself, it's a one-way ticket to the friend zone.
    If you initiate anyway, that's probably what she wanted all along.
    If you initiate and she still says no, she'll at least take you seriously as a man and likely be more receptive in a couple of days.
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  18. The reason rape culture is now feminism’s raison d’etre is that abortion has lost it’s potency as an political issue. The very few women who actually do end up getting pregnant to begin with, can still have an abortion on demand if they are willing to drive a couple of hours. This is why the Sandra Fluke brouhaha fell so flat. Nobody cared if she has to pay more for brand named drugs.

    It isn’t just that this story is falling apart, it is that the narrative is falling apart. If the left does not succeed in alarming their base, they stand the chance of losing what has been for the last 40 years, their ace in the hole.

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    The reason rape culture is now feminism’s raison d’etre is...
     
    There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It's vast - absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn't be able to believe the scale of it.

    They know about it - through their connection to social work / education etc - but can't face it because of the political incorrectness so it's coming out this way instead. It's like all those Swedish shows with lots of white, blond Nazi rapists - it's a kind of transference because they can't handle the reality they created.
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  19. Why name the book like that? I could imagine problems coming up from naming a book about some scandal after the place where it happened if that place had certain connotations, like “Harlem” or “Lakewood.”

    So I’m gonna call this one punching up. Hanging collective responsibility on a whole community is something a savvy writer like Krakauer would do only if he felt confident in his assessment that Missoula is a safe target — that other powerful people will see it that way too.

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    Missoula is on the top ten list of towns to retire to. Virtually, all of Montana is now the place to retire to (but please don't move there!) - there are actually T-shirts, so not kidding, that say that! Plus, if you wanna off yourself in Montana, well, you can! This is why I love MT: if I want to die, I can get it done without it being messy for my family.

    The SV companies have and are, adding satellites in Missoula, Bozeman, Billings (not as pretty), Boise ID, Salt Lake UT, Park City UT...so, it is freaking some people out.
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  20. What’s with the “and you know… you know” that this Kraken guy and Michelle Obama do when they speak?
    Don’t they know the word ‘like’?

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  21. BubbaJoe says:

    On the topic of Krakauer, have a look-see at what Anchorage Daily News columnist Craig Medred has to say about his book on Chris McCandless…

    http://www.adn.com/article/20130920/beatification-chris-mccandless-thieving-poacher-saint

    There are many other articles written by Medred on the Into the Wild nonsense. Medred himself is a “you’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole” type guy- a valuable trait in a journalist.

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    On the topic of Krakauer, have a look-see at what Anchorage Daily News columnist Craig Medred has to say about his book on Chris McCandless…
    http://www.adn.com/article/20130920/beatification-chris-mccandless-thieving-poacher-saint

    There are many other articles written by Medred on the Into the Wild nonsense. Medred himself is a “you’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole” type guy- a valuable trait in a journalist.
     
    Very interesting piece. Krakauer needs McCandless to be some good-hearted bohemian driven by some Thoreau-esque return to nature rather than the mentally ill person McCandless obviously was.
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  22. @iSteveFan
    For a moment I thought the book jacket had "Under the Banner of Haven" written on it. Are you kidding me? But my eyes must be getting bad. After clicking your image to expand, I saw I was wrong.

    PS. Steve you are on a tear. It'll require a full time job for me to be able to keep up with all the posts and comments.

    “Steve you are on a tear”.
    Tim Blair catches up with Steve’s ‘Pokemon Points’ leader-board.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/leftist_grievance_poker/

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  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    “It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.”

    I think it’s especially common with younger women, a lot of whom are more coy about having sex and want to at least pretend like they’re somewhat virtuous. Doing pretty much everything in bed except having sex is not at all uncommon in the early stages of a relationship, and before you get to the stage of having intercourse there is apt to be some uncertainty on the part of the girl, the guy, or both. Call me emasculated if you want, but the early stages of a physical relationship are an incredible turn on – maybe more so than sex itself.

    And remember that there’s another term for the crap that goes on in bed before sex – foreplay. It’s something that women especially are fond of. It ain’t all about the grand finale, especially for women.

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    Most of the girls I knew when I was a student, here in France, refused to have sex on their first night with a guy. Their idea was that if you have sex with a guy on the first night you are a slut. Especially if the guy says goodbye when the sun rises again and never comes back. It was important for the girls' self-esteem not to consider themselves sluts, and I respected that. There's some logic in it: if the guy really loves the girl, he'll have the will to wait for another 24 hours before having sex with her.
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  24. Steve, have you ever heard about the Glen Ridge rape case? It inspired a nonfiction book that was made into a TV movie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Ridge_rape

    Some well-off white boys do act badly. The statistics don’t lie – blacks are more violent, by far – but not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-lackers.

    You might also look at the Brian Deneke case, as well:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Deneke

    In many areas, high-school jocks – white or black – are heroes who can do no wrong. Principals will forgive almost anything a star player does if it keeps him in the game. They want those trophies badly.

    This is one of those “friend of a friend” things, but when I was in high school I knew of one case where a hulking white jock – a “rich kid,” to boot – smashed in the windows of a car belonging to someone the jock thought had “stolen” his ex-girlfriend. (She had to get a restraining order against him – it was an ugly situation.) There were eyewitnesses who saw the jock whacking the car with a baseball bat, but because it happened after school hours and off school property, the principal wanted nothing to do with it. The police were called, but the jock’s family paid some money to get the victim’s family to drop all charges.

    My involvement was that I knew the brother of the guy whose car got smashed. The brothers and the parents told me about what had happened, and I saw no reason to doubt their story. I didn’t know the jock, but he had a reputation for being violent and unstable. There were rumors that, when his girlfriend first tried to break up with him, he threatened to commit suicide and, during one bad argument, even pulled out a knife.

    I looked up the guy recently – he’s married with a kid (a boy) of his own. Hopefully he’s not the same guy now that he was 15 years ago. Hopefully.

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    I mean, not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-*havers*.

    (No matter how much edit time you give us, I always spot one big mistake after the comment is locked for good.)
    , @anon

    but not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-lackers.
     
    leaving aside your freudian slip not a single person post has said *all* rape cases were committed by non-whites because that would obviously not be true.

    the point is the disproportion in the media goes in the exact opposite direction to the disproportion in reality which highlights the media's anti-white racism.
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  25. @Stan Adams
    Steve, have you ever heard about the Glen Ridge rape case? It inspired a nonfiction book that was made into a TV movie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Ridge_rape

    Some well-off white boys do act badly. The statistics don't lie - blacks are more violent, by far - but not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-lackers.

    You might also look at the Brian Deneke case, as well:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Deneke

    In many areas, high-school jocks - white or black - are heroes who can do no wrong. Principals will forgive almost anything a star player does if it keeps him in the game. They want those trophies badly.

    This is one of those "friend of a friend" things, but when I was in high school I knew of one case where a hulking white jock - a "rich kid," to boot - smashed in the windows of a car belonging to someone the jock thought had "stolen" his ex-girlfriend. (She had to get a restraining order against him - it was an ugly situation.) There were eyewitnesses who saw the jock whacking the car with a baseball bat, but because it happened after school hours and off school property, the principal wanted nothing to do with it. The police were called, but the jock's family paid some money to get the victim's family to drop all charges.

    My involvement was that I knew the brother of the guy whose car got smashed. The brothers and the parents told me about what had happened, and I saw no reason to doubt their story. I didn't know the jock, but he had a reputation for being violent and unstable. There were rumors that, when his girlfriend first tried to break up with him, he threatened to commit suicide and, during one bad argument, even pulled out a knife.

    I looked up the guy recently - he's married with a kid (a boy) of his own. Hopefully he's not the same guy now that he was 15 years ago. Hopefully.

    I mean, not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-*havers*.

    (No matter how much edit time you give us, I always spot one big mistake after the comment is locked for good.)

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    • Replies: @Big Bill
    In the future just type "NABALT" (not all blacks are like that) or "NAWALT" (not all women are like that). That way we can quickly skim over your straw man.
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  26. OhComeOn says:
    @notMyusualName
    There are actual guys and girls who are platonic friends who sometimes do this but it's pretty rare. It might be a more common thing among the millenials, among whom demasculinized boys are legion.

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more. Girl sleeps next to guy and is frustrated because guy tried to have sex with her even though she said that she only wanted to sleep and nothing more.

    I used to take feminism seriously and a few year ago I would have proudly boasted about my ability to "respect" any girl by not initiating anything at all if the girl has not given me explicit permission.
    I can think of a few times when a girl got really frustrated because of that.

    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn’t be together to begin with.

    I’m a girl.

    Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn’t.

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    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn’t be together to begin with.

    I don't follow this. Are you saying that not having sex with the first hook up generally indicates incompatibility?
    , @Bill

    I’m a girl.

    Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn’t.
     
    This is so good it almost has to be a troll. Honey, it has never, ever happened in whole history of the human race that "things just happened" or "things just worked out" or "it was so natural." Every single time you think that has happened to you, it is because your counterparty is working at it.
    , @notMyusualName
    Yeah, god forbid a woman would actually put in any effort understanding how a particular man works.

    The way I work is that if you tell me that you're not interested in sex, for now, I take your word for it and I act accordingly. It's not very difficult for me. If you are in fact interested in sex soon, don't send mixed signals to me because, for me, mixed signals = "no".
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  27. Truth says:

    Responding to your own posts now Stanley? Oh well, I guess it’s a good way to have an agreeable conversation.

    Anyway;

    Uh oh; Part XXVI:

    One hell of an uncomfortable van ride…

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/few-details-about-police-encounter-that-led-to-mans-death/ar-AAblSv2?ocid=ansnewsap11

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    Uh oh; Part XXVI:

    One hell of an uncomfortable van ride…
     
    Ah yes, the next Great Negro Victim of Evil Police. And this one presents quite well insofar as nobody is talking about what happened to sever his spinal cord. Was it before he went into the van when the cops were dragging him? Before that? Inside the van?

    This newest negro martyr had only been arrested 20 times previously so clearly he was turning his life around and his mother assures us he was a "good boy." It's really miraculous he survived he prior 20 arrests given the cop brutality we hear about every day.

    In any case, the worst obstacle for the Narrative here is the negro female mayor who vetoed the body cameras for cops. And the negro police chief. And the 20 prior arrests. And Baltimore...
    , @Neil Templeton
    Truth,

    How come the guys marching with power fists in the AP photo look like the AfAm equivalent of the white guys rallying for the property rights of "I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro", Cliven Bundy?

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  28. The sad thing is there’s a lot of doubters and haters out there who think women lie about rape…

    E.g., the Democratic National Committee.

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  29. @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    Teach Women Not to Cuddle!

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Or... http://www.cuddleparty.com/

    I can see some potential synergy between that and the new adult preschool.
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  30. Horzabky says:
    @Anonymous
    >>>>> We can’t fight against this kind of anti-white bigotry unless we recognize it and name it, over and over again.<<<<<<<

    Your strategy is ineffective. When dealing with a bully the most effective course of action is to raise the cost of bullying in terms of physical discomfort.

    Very few anti-white bullies harrass Muslims because Muslims will take action that causes physical discomfort.

    Bullying whites has near zero physical cost today. Therefore it will continue no matter how much "naming" of it you do.

    On the other hand, Muslims are more disliked and mistrusted than any other religious community. Nevertheless, it’s not a good thing to be considered good persons and be bullied by people who think that kindness is another word for weakness.

    See how white-basher Jeremiah Wright nevertheless chose to live in a 98% white neighborhood. He sure considered whites as good neighbors (otherwise, he would have lived in a neighborhood where his black brethren are the majority) but he earned his living bashing whites.

    That kind of behavior will only stop when whites become as reactive to offense as Jews are about anti-semitism.

    It will happen. It’s even beginning to happen, because Christian whites are becoming minorities in their own countries. The only good thing will be that hate-mongers like Jeremiah Wright won’t be as comfortable (euphemism) as they are today living among the very people they so like to demonize.

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  31. Horzabky says:
    @Anonymous
    "It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her."

    I think it's especially common with younger women, a lot of whom are more coy about having sex and want to at least pretend like they're somewhat virtuous. Doing pretty much everything in bed except having sex is not at all uncommon in the early stages of a relationship, and before you get to the stage of having intercourse there is apt to be some uncertainty on the part of the girl, the guy, or both. Call me emasculated if you want, but the early stages of a physical relationship are an incredible turn on - maybe more so than sex itself.

    And remember that there's another term for the crap that goes on in bed before sex - foreplay. It's something that women especially are fond of. It ain't all about the grand finale, especially for women.

    Most of the girls I knew when I was a student, here in France, refused to have sex on their first night with a guy. Their idea was that if you have sex with a guy on the first night you are a slut. Especially if the guy says goodbye when the sun rises again and never comes back. It was important for the girls’ self-esteem not to consider themselves sluts, and I respected that. There’s some logic in it: if the guy really loves the girl, he’ll have the will to wait for another 24 hours before having sex with her.

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    The Amish do bundling, using a board or bags.
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  32. Lot says:
    @Polynices
    How effing retarded. Even the anecdote quoted in the article sounds like BS -- the alleged victim spent the night in bed with her alleged rapist after the assault because she didn't want to walk home (through utterly safe nearly crime-free Missoula)! WTF? Maybe that's why the cops were skeptical.

    Lucretia killed herself in public so the Romans would believe her rape allegation. Women these days can’t even not spend the night with the guy.

    This is a thing now actually, sleep with a guy multiple times and later decide it was rape:

    http://gawker.com/hip-alt-lit-editor-quits-public-writing-career-after-ra-1640785729

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  33. @Horzabky
    Most of the girls I knew when I was a student, here in France, refused to have sex on their first night with a guy. Their idea was that if you have sex with a guy on the first night you are a slut. Especially if the guy says goodbye when the sun rises again and never comes back. It was important for the girls' self-esteem not to consider themselves sluts, and I respected that. There's some logic in it: if the guy really loves the girl, he'll have the will to wait for another 24 hours before having sex with her.

    The Amish do bundling, using a board or bags.

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    The Amish do bundling, using a board or bags.
     
    Don't Mormons have some magic underwear that prohibits wickedness?
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  34. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @BubbaJoe
    On the topic of Krakauer, have a look-see at what Anchorage Daily News columnist Craig Medred has to say about his book on Chris McCandless...
    http://www.adn.com/article/20130920/beatification-chris-mccandless-thieving-poacher-saint

    There are many other articles written by Medred on the Into the Wild nonsense. Medred himself is a "you're not wrong, you're just an asshole" type guy- a valuable trait in a journalist.

    On the topic of Krakauer, have a look-see at what Anchorage Daily News columnist Craig Medred has to say about his book on Chris McCandless…

    http://www.adn.com/article/20130920/beatification-chris-mccandless-thieving-poacher-saint

    There are many other articles written by Medred on the Into the Wild nonsense. Medred himself is a “you’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole” type guy- a valuable trait in a journalist.

    Very interesting piece. Krakauer needs McCandless to be some good-hearted bohemian driven by some Thoreau-esque return to nature rather than the mentally ill person McCandless obviously was.

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    No, Medred's a malicious cretin who needed to blacken McCandless' memory because that's what malicious cretins do to aggrandize themselves.
    , @slumber_j
    See, I don't remember Into the Wild as a hagiography at all. From what I remember, Krakauer portrays his subject as a maddeningly mixed-up, self-regarding kid who used people up and ended his days in a haze of delusion and incompetence. The expression "Alexander Supertramp" comes to mind...

    It's been many years since I read the book, so maybe that's all wrong. But it's always seemed to me that the people who bizarrely revere McCandless have completely failed to understand the book.
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  35. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    Why are jewish writers so obsessed with the misdeeds of white gentiles? They're obsessed with chronicling, amplifying and broadcasting them. What gives? Weird.

    1. Since when is Krakauer Jewish?

    2. One of his more recent scalps was David Oliver Relin, who certainly was Jewish, and was so mortified at having his name blackened that he committed suicide.

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    Check out Krakauer's Wikipedia page for his background: it's about what you'd expect for an outdoors journalist.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    Just a wild guess.
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  36. @Art Deco
    1. Since when is Krakauer Jewish?

    2. One of his more recent scalps was David Oliver Relin, who certainly was Jewish, and was so mortified at having his name blackened that he committed suicide.

    Check out Krakauer’s Wikipedia page for his background: it’s about what you’d expect for an outdoors journalist.

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    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here. Your wiki reference has it that he grew up in a large town/small city in Oregon, is one of five children, and has a gentile mother. The number of 'Jews' born in 1954 with that kind of history is infinitesimal.
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  37. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    On the topic of Krakauer, have a look-see at what Anchorage Daily News columnist Craig Medred has to say about his book on Chris McCandless…
    http://www.adn.com/article/20130920/beatification-chris-mccandless-thieving-poacher-saint

    There are many other articles written by Medred on the Into the Wild nonsense. Medred himself is a “you’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole” type guy- a valuable trait in a journalist.
     
    Very interesting piece. Krakauer needs McCandless to be some good-hearted bohemian driven by some Thoreau-esque return to nature rather than the mentally ill person McCandless obviously was.

    No, Medred’s a malicious cretin who needed to blacken McCandless’ memory because that’s what malicious cretins do to aggrandize themselves.

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    I lived in Anchorage from 1978 to 2000, and read everything Medred ever wrote. he is opinionated and abrasive--but a real Alaska backcountry guy and a superior writer. It is not a case of blackening McCandless' memory, it was more stating the truth--the guy was a crazy man who had no business in the back country.
    , @BubbaJoe
    Medred doesn't like to see people die needlessly. The AK wild is a dangerous place, and you need to be prepared when you explore it. Many aren't. Locals tried to help that young man- with maps, advice, food and fuel, etc. and they were rebuffed. What Medred doesn't want is for other troubled people to follow McCandless's example. I'll second @John Cunningham- Medred's the real deal. He's interested in facts, not a narrative.

    The whole concept of narrative journalism needs to be taken apart.
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  38. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Check out Krakauer's Wikipedia page for his background: it's about what you'd expect for an outdoors journalist.

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here. Your wiki reference has it that he grew up in a large town/small city in Oregon, is one of five children, and has a gentile mother. The number of ‘Jews’ born in 1954 with that kind of history is infinitesimal.

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    Huh?

    From Wikipedia:

    "Krakauer was born in Brookline, Massachusetts, as the third of five children of Lewis Joseph Krakauer and Carol Ann Krakauer (née Jones). His father was Jewish and his mother was a Unitarian, of Scandinavian descent.[1][2]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Krakauer

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.

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  39. Somewhat OT, but Jameis Winston got a 27 on the Wonderlic. I think a score of 25 translates to a mean IQ of 100, so that’s not bad.

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    21 is about 100, so 27 is smart-enough-to-know-better range.
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  40. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    It happened to me a few times with ex-girlfriends after they’d had extreme arguments with their current boyfriend – safety I guess. I don’t know how common that is.

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  41. CK says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    Why are jewish writers so obsessed with the misdeeds of white gentiles? They're obsessed with chronicling, amplifying and broadcasting them. What gives? Weird.

    One always chronicles the misdeeds of one’s enemies and forgets the misdeeds of ones own.
    If ones enemy does not have enough misdeeds, one creates them out of thin air and markets them as truths.
    After the Boston Marathon bombing, the internets were full of bloviators and other deep thinkers analyzing the attack before any facts were in. One of my favourite memories of that period was two Jewish intellectuals in a discussion of the affair, hoping that it would be a white person that did the bombing not a semite. They were very happy that they were not whites in their own estimation. Granted that is the internet intellectual class and as such is probably not completely representative of current strands in Jewish Intellectual positions.

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    Reminds me of that sociology professor from CSU San Bernardino, Brian Levin, head of the "Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism," who assured the world repeatedly on CNN that the DC sniper would be a "wallpaper white male".
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  42. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Prof. Woland
    The reason rape culture is now feminism's raison d'etre is that abortion has lost it's potency as an political issue. The very few women who actually do end up getting pregnant to begin with, can still have an abortion on demand if they are willing to drive a couple of hours. This is why the Sandra Fluke brouhaha fell so flat. Nobody cared if she has to pay more for brand named drugs.

    It isn't just that this story is falling apart, it is that the narrative is falling apart. If the left does not succeed in alarming their base, they stand the chance of losing what has been for the last 40 years, their ace in the hole.

    The reason rape culture is now feminism’s raison d’etre is…

    There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It’s vast – absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn’t be able to believe the scale of it.

    They know about it – through their connection to social work / education etc – but can’t face it because of the political incorrectness so it’s coming out this way instead. It’s like all those Swedish shows with lots of white, blond Nazi rapists – it’s a kind of transference because they can’t handle the reality they created.

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    "There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It’s vast – absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn’t be able to believe the scale of it."

    Can't be emphasized enough. The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning if it was covered with even 1% of the resources and attention focused on the supposed sexual deviancy and aggressiveness of heterosexual White males. Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they'd be running for the hills in hysteria.

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  43. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Somewhat OT, but Jameis Winston got a 27 on the Wonderlic. I think a score of 25 translates to a mean IQ of 100, so that's not bad.

    21 is about 100, so 27 is smart-enough-to-know-better range.

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    The interesting thing about Jameis Winston is that from most reports, he is intelligent, very good high school student and all. So it's possible he can move past his obvious bad judgment in the past.
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  44. @Art Deco
    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here. Your wiki reference has it that he grew up in a large town/small city in Oregon, is one of five children, and has a gentile mother. The number of 'Jews' born in 1954 with that kind of history is infinitesimal.

    Huh?

    From Wikipedia:

    “Krakauer was born in Brookline, Massachusetts, as the third of five children of Lewis Joseph Krakauer and Carol Ann Krakauer (née Jones). His father was Jewish and his mother was a Unitarian, of Scandinavian descent.[1][2]”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Krakauer

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.

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    He did grow up in Oregon, though - the very next sentence says so. So I call this one a draw, since he is Jewish (albeit not by Jewish law).
    , @Art Deco
    1. Almost no Jews outside the Orthodox subculture have families that large, nor did they in 1954. Read Joseph Epstein on the bog standard family configuration in his old neighborhood in Chicago: two children born about six years apart.

    2. Had his father wanted his children to have a Jewish upbringing, marrying a gentile and leaving a Boston suburb with a large Jewish population for a town in Oregon with few Jews is unclear on the concept.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    The Scandinavian heritage makes him outdoorsy and the Jewish heritage makes him good at writing about it?

    Into Thin Air is a great read, btw, if you haven't read it. I haven't read any of his more recent stuff though.
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  45. Bill P says:

    Missoula keeps coming up because there’s a lesbian activist community there that knows how to bend the ears of people back east. Basically, a little nest of witches, such as existed in the UVA sexual assault center with Emily Renda et al.

    If you’re going to send your son to college, check out how many lesbian activists there are at the colleges he’s applying to. If there are a lot, it’s probably a good idea to steer him away from the school, and not only because of the sexual assault issue, but also because they actively discriminate against males (especially white ones) in every possible manner.

    If you find something like this, for example, either avoid the school or have a long talk with your son about these people. Young men need to be told about these things in very clear terms. It’s easy for us to forget that it took decades for us to learn about the adult world. Most young men are naïve and are not really aware of how deceptive adults can be. I started teaching my kids about deception by pointing out examples when they were quite young (e.g. people running a con for some drug money). Not sure whether that’s healthy or not, but given what’s become of our culture and society it’s probably necessary.

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    I find commercials and other ads are a good place to start my kids thinking about deception and how someon is trying to influence them with images and words.
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  46. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Stan Adams
    Steve, have you ever heard about the Glen Ridge rape case? It inspired a nonfiction book that was made into a TV movie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Ridge_rape

    Some well-off white boys do act badly. The statistics don't lie - blacks are more violent, by far - but not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-lackers.

    You might also look at the Brian Deneke case, as well:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Deneke

    In many areas, high-school jocks - white or black - are heroes who can do no wrong. Principals will forgive almost anything a star player does if it keeps him in the game. They want those trophies badly.

    This is one of those "friend of a friend" things, but when I was in high school I knew of one case where a hulking white jock - a "rich kid," to boot - smashed in the windows of a car belonging to someone the jock thought had "stolen" his ex-girlfriend. (She had to get a restraining order against him - it was an ugly situation.) There were eyewitnesses who saw the jock whacking the car with a baseball bat, but because it happened after school hours and off school property, the principal wanted nothing to do with it. The police were called, but the jock's family paid some money to get the victim's family to drop all charges.

    My involvement was that I knew the brother of the guy whose car got smashed. The brothers and the parents told me about what had happened, and I saw no reason to doubt their story. I didn't know the jock, but he had a reputation for being violent and unstable. There were rumors that, when his girlfriend first tried to break up with him, he threatened to commit suicide and, during one bad argument, even pulled out a knife.

    I looked up the guy recently - he's married with a kid (a boy) of his own. Hopefully he's not the same guy now that he was 15 years ago. Hopefully.

    but not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-lackers.

    leaving aside your freudian slip not a single person post has said *all* rape cases were committed by non-whites because that would obviously not be true.

    the point is the disproportion in the media goes in the exact opposite direction to the disproportion in reality which highlights the media’s anti-white racism.

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    Hey, I'm a white guy, too.

    Yes, you're right - in the media's eyes, blacks never do wrong and whites never do right, facts and statistics be damned.
    , @Anon

    the point is the disproportion in the media goes in the exact opposite direction to the disproportion in reality which highlights the media’s anti-white racism.
     
    Or it could simply be that the routine isn't news, whereas the unusual is. Black guy rapes anyone = routine and depressing. White guy rapes anyone = man bites dog. That SJW's clamber on to make a case for white man's inhumanity to woman, Gaia or the cause of the moment is just the usual political opportunism. It's the equivalent of the NYT railing against guns after a mass shooting.
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  47. @Steve Sailer
    Huh?

    From Wikipedia:

    "Krakauer was born in Brookline, Massachusetts, as the third of five children of Lewis Joseph Krakauer and Carol Ann Krakauer (née Jones). His father was Jewish and his mother was a Unitarian, of Scandinavian descent.[1][2]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Krakauer

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.

    He did grow up in Oregon, though – the very next sentence says so. So I call this one a draw, since he is Jewish (albeit not by Jewish law).

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  48. NOTA says:
    @Bill P
    Missoula keeps coming up because there's a lesbian activist community there that knows how to bend the ears of people back east. Basically, a little nest of witches, such as existed in the UVA sexual assault center with Emily Renda et al.

    If you're going to send your son to college, check out how many lesbian activists there are at the colleges he's applying to. If there are a lot, it's probably a good idea to steer him away from the school, and not only because of the sexual assault issue, but also because they actively discriminate against males (especially white ones) in every possible manner.

    If you find something like this, for example, either avoid the school or have a long talk with your son about these people. Young men need to be told about these things in very clear terms. It's easy for us to forget that it took decades for us to learn about the adult world. Most young men are naïve and are not really aware of how deceptive adults can be. I started teaching my kids about deception by pointing out examples when they were quite young (e.g. people running a con for some drug money). Not sure whether that's healthy or not, but given what's become of our culture and society it's probably necessary.

    I find commercials and other ads are a good place to start my kids thinking about deception and how someon is trying to influence them with images and words.

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    There's a burger king ad here in GB that shows white scam artists and honest black bk employee. Reverse the roles and tshtf. I don't know why all white people don't boycott Burger King, I know I will.
    , @Bill P
    TV Commercials are a good start, but nothing makes it really sink in like a face-to-face lie. I was with my kids in a parking lot on one occasion waiting for their mom when a strung-out woman approached us with one of those "my car's out of gas and I need ten bucks" stories. I asked her where her car was, and she said it was on the freeway ramp, so I reluctantly gave her some pocket change to make her go away. She immediately went over to a nice looking older lady with the story, and managed to con a twenty out of her. We were still watching as she then proceeded to a car in the parking lot and drove away, presumably to score some meth.

    I then calmly explained to my kids that she had lied to us to get money, probably for drugs. It made quite an impression on them, and they understood very quickly. I'm fairly certain that my parents would not have explained the situation to me when I was that age, instead telling me she "needed help" or something like that, which only would have further confused me.

    I don't think kids need to be geniuses to grasp the basics of skepticism, but if you don't teach them they won't learn, just as people unschooled in numbers won't learn arithmetic. I'm pretty sure this basic understanding gives Asian kids a big institutional advantage these days over white kids from high-trust communities.
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  49. There is a rape culture that absolutely thrives in our country. It involves obsessing over a shadowy realm where privileged young men named Brody and Haven run around drugging and raping young women at will. This culture apparently believes in the existence of a network that is supported by a secretive cabal of conservative old white men who are still angry at the jailing of Maurice Joly for his critical analysis of Louis Napoleon’s plebiscitory despotism. So they express their anger ritualistically by assaulting the fairer sex.

    Krakauer here is like an archaeologist digging with a furrowed brow, holding up a broken pottery sherd as the answer to everything, while ignoring the giant monument towering right next to him.

    There was a Sumerian saying that is appropriate for the Krakauers and Sabrinas out there: they are moving like a lion toward a flea. With this quip, the Sumerians foreshadowed Shakespeare’s Much Ado about Nothing by 5000 years or so.

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  50. unit472 says:

    University of Florida football players got tired of being seen as second rate gangsters as compared to Florida State’s Aaron Hernandez and Jameis Winston so they are upping their ‘game’.

    http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20150420/article/150429995?p=2&tc=pg

    GAINESVILLE – The University of Florida football player accused of being part of a weekend drug-related armed robbery has refused to cooperate with investigators, and the two men who allegedly committed the crime have not been identified, Gainesville police officials said on Monday.

    Now over at the Fraternity/Haven Monahan front it would seem Haven has had a ‘race’ transplant.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/19/three-shot-during-campus-cookout-at-dindu-nuffin-university-ddnu/

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    Aaron Hernandez went to U of Florida, not FSU
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Speaking of Jameis Winston, he scored a 27 on his Wonderlic test -- and you shouldn't be surprised by that, says Fox Sports.
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  51. @notMyusualName
    There are actual guys and girls who are platonic friends who sometimes do this but it's pretty rare. It might be a more common thing among the millenials, among whom demasculinized boys are legion.

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more. Girl sleeps next to guy and is frustrated because guy tried to have sex with her even though she said that she only wanted to sleep and nothing more.

    I used to take feminism seriously and a few year ago I would have proudly boasted about my ability to "respect" any girl by not initiating anything at all if the girl has not given me explicit permission.
    I can think of a few times when a girl got really frustrated because of that.

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more.

    Even Gen X women were starting to do this back in the late 90s. I’ve been out of the game for a while, but this odd behavior was typically exhibited by women looking down the barrel of a “notch-count” that’s just a little too high to mesh with her sense of self-worth. A good girl knows that she shouldn’t be in your bed this soon, and goes home. A good girl who is young/naive enough, totally into you and just can’t help herself, will be expecting a long term relationship and she’s probably imagining how cute your last name sounds with her first name. A slut just doesn’t care. It’s the girls who have been around the block and had their hearts broken a few times, yet aren’t comfortable going full-on “Samantha” who tend to pull this stunt.

    It’s not only a mindf*** for emasculated men, but also a mindf*** for high-T men raised to be honorable. The Roissy/Heartiste concepts of “shit-test”, “anti-slut defense” and “last minute resistance” explain it all.

    If you behave yourself, it’s a one-way ticket to the friend zone.
    If you initiate anyway, that’s probably what she wanted all along.
    If you initiate and she still says no, she’ll at least take you seriously as a man and likely be more receptive in a couple of days.

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    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night(that's after many attempts to remove her clothes have failed), don't tell her any stuff like "it's okay, I understand" just "I gotta go" and then leave suddenly so she gets the message. Don't act angry, but act like you have already forgotten about her as you are leaving, you want her to think you are just going to some other girl's bed that night.

    Next time you hang out alone with her, sex will almost certainly happen. She was already close if you got her in that situation, but she was testing you to see if you were the kind of pathetic loser who would lay in bed all night without sex. I can't believe any man would actually waste their night laying in bed with a girl after being rejected like that. Seriously, don't you have thrills to seek? I just wanted to get the f--- out of their as soon as I realized I wasn't getting any. I just can't imagine what it would be like to be the kind of man who would stay. Would rather sleep in my own bed at the end of the night either way.

    IMO, girls who pull those kinds of stunts are not sexually confident in themselves and are not really worth much. You are not going have great sex with someone so immature and neurotic.



    I find all these game discussion on alt right websites hilarious because I was a jock/juvenile delinquent as a teenager. I was the guy who went through puberty early, who got in lots of fights and won all the fights that that I had with boys from school. Funny to read all the angst over jerks and badboys. If you can't beat em join em. It was fun as hell. If I could live my life again I would be even worse.

    One of my most memorable moments was when I locked some guy I didn't like's book bag in his locker or something like that(maybe I locked his bag in someone else's locker?) and this big rich kid basketball player said something to me like "leave him alone." I told him something like "shut up fag" and then a teacher came and made us all go to class. I didn't think a damn thing of it until some kids in one of my classes told me the dude was mad that I called him a "fag" and wanted to fight me.

    I was surprised this dude would want to fight me. Maybe he though being a lot taller would help him. I had already beaten up older and bigger kids. I'm very athletic, well coordinated and good at fighting so that for me to fight a non fighting sport trained boy like this one was a joke. I couldn't believe this dork would step up to me like that with my reputation.

    Before long, the whole school was talking about the big fight that was going to happen after 3 in the woods behind the school. I was very unconcerned and bored with the whole matter. All these kids kept asking me about the fight all day and were in awe that I was so nonchalant. I felt embarrassed for the pussies who thought getting in a school fight was a big deal. When school ended, all these hangars on followed me to the woods where the dork was waiting with his wimpy basketball/baseball friends. In my HS, the hardcore football players were a separate click from the second rate baseball/basketball players.

    I just stood there and let him punch me in the face once. I was concerned about lawsuits from his rich family if I landed the first punch(one of my friends got sued a year or two before for breaking some retard's jaw who wanted a fight with him). Then he started circling away with me following him for a minute or so until I stepped in with a quick combination left hook, a right that I don't think did much and then another left hook. He fell and then I looked up and saw a cop watching us from near the school! I just turned around and walked away with a huge crowd following me. Everyone else was ecstatic -- "you're the man!" Everyone was treating me like a hero because the other guy was part of stuck up clique that a lot of people resented. I felt embarrassed to go to such a pussy high school that people would make big deal out of a fight. I had played football in a non-school league with black inner kids who got beat up everyday by gangs on their way home from school. They were tough, not me.

    Over the next few days I was showered with love from females. They were most impressed with my icy demeanor during the whole affair. Mr. Fag's hot blonde girlfriend who had always flirted with me left him and later that year, I was in a class with her. She was flirting with me like crazy. We were talking and she started rubbing her foot against my legs under the desk. She already had another boyfriend but hooked up with me secretly anyway.

    Women love the risk takers. I remember all the nasty comments that the HOT girls -- cheerleaders and models and strippers made about average guys who would even just look at them. "Bitches," "losers" "fags." These weren't nerds, just average guys who did not have the killer instict/dark triad type personality. Often these comments were directed at superficially cool, well dressed guys driving nice cars and spending a lot of money when out.

    Women immediately size men up into killers and fags.

    Always ask yourself which you are being.
    , @Andrew
    Gunnar von Cowtown:

    I think you nailed it.

    My Gen X wife insisted she was going to be a virgin when married. She also could barely constrain herself. Her roommate insisted I could not sleep on the couch every weekend. Something had to give.
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  52. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @NOTA
    I find commercials and other ads are a good place to start my kids thinking about deception and how someon is trying to influence them with images and words.

    There’s a burger king ad here in GB that shows white scam artists and honest black bk employee. Reverse the roles and tshtf. I don’t know why all white people don’t boycott Burger King, I know I will.

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    In my neck of the woods, whites stopped going to places like Burger King and McDonald's a long time ago. Even in all white neighborhoods, the workers and customers are all black or mestizo.
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  53. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Huh?

    From Wikipedia:

    "Krakauer was born in Brookline, Massachusetts, as the third of five children of Lewis Joseph Krakauer and Carol Ann Krakauer (née Jones). His father was Jewish and his mother was a Unitarian, of Scandinavian descent.[1][2]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Krakauer

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.

    1. Almost no Jews outside the Orthodox subculture have families that large, nor did they in 1954. Read Joseph Epstein on the bog standard family configuration in his old neighborhood in Chicago: two children born about six years apart.

    2. Had his father wanted his children to have a Jewish upbringing, marrying a gentile and leaving a Boston suburb with a large Jewish population for a town in Oregon with few Jews is unclear on the concept.

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    Well, there's the weird case of Chelsea Handler, one of six, in crowded New Jersey. Jewish upbringing, Jewish dad, German jack-Mormon mom. Must be the LDS influence, it sure ain't Jewish or German.
    , @Jack D
    Almost none and none are two different things. Large (1/2) Jewish non-Orthodox families are rare but apparently Krakauer grew up in one. Such families are rare but they are not physical impossibilities by any stretch. In the '50s three kids was a very common family size so this is only 2 more. Six years is a lot. Having been born in the '50s, a lot of my (Jewish) friends & cousins were more like 2 or 3 years apart. And women married much younger then - early 20's or even late teens. Plenty of time to have 5 kids even 3 yrs apart.

    No one said that Krakauer had a Jewish upbringing, just that he was genetically 1/2 Jewish. It sounds like his father wanted to get as far away from Judaism as possible (having 5 kids at a time when most secular Jews didn't could have been part of that). As Steve said, he had kind of ideal genetics and background for an outdoor writer - high intelligence and verbal skills from his Jewish side plus an outdoorsy upbringing and Scandinavian genes on his maternal side.

    Do you dispute the accuracy of the Wikipedia biography?
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  54. Svigor says:

    Baltimore, lol. The cops should just withdraw until the “community” is begging them to come back. How many blacks are blacks killing every year in that shithole?

    Obviously the Baltimore cops shouldn’t have suspects dying in custody under suspicious circumstances, but if Baltimore blacks are protesting police violence, and not their own, then they’re obviously full of shit. They can hardly expect pristine policing when shit draws flies.

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  55. slumber_j says:
    @Anonymous

    On the topic of Krakauer, have a look-see at what Anchorage Daily News columnist Craig Medred has to say about his book on Chris McCandless…
    http://www.adn.com/article/20130920/beatification-chris-mccandless-thieving-poacher-saint

    There are many other articles written by Medred on the Into the Wild nonsense. Medred himself is a “you’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole” type guy- a valuable trait in a journalist.
     
    Very interesting piece. Krakauer needs McCandless to be some good-hearted bohemian driven by some Thoreau-esque return to nature rather than the mentally ill person McCandless obviously was.

    See, I don’t remember Into the Wild as a hagiography at all. From what I remember, Krakauer portrays his subject as a maddeningly mixed-up, self-regarding kid who used people up and ended his days in a haze of delusion and incompetence. The expression “Alexander Supertramp” comes to mind…

    It’s been many years since I read the book, so maybe that’s all wrong. But it’s always seemed to me that the people who bizarrely revere McCandless have completely failed to understand the book.

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    Right, the book Into the Wild is not a hagiography, although it's not a black-and-white condemnation either. Krakauer does show affection/respect for the idea of young men testing themselves in the wilderness, a wanderjahre, etc. But McCandless himself is portrayed as somewhat disturbed and extreme in his pursuit of that kind of coming of age. He caused a lot of injury to his family, obviously.

    Sean Penn's movie on the other hand is a lot more of a hagiography.
    , @BubbaJoe
    "See, I don’t remember Into the Wild as a hagiography at all"

    it was the movie that did that. Krakauer's book was just very empathetic towards a harmless, deeply unwell man. It was also wrong in how and why McCandless died.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    IIRC, Sean Penn romanticized McCandles a bit more in his movie version.

    The weirdest thing about the whole thing to me is that there is now an academic field of study devoted to McCandles (e.g., http://cen.acs.org/articles/91/i43/Chemists-Dispute-WildProtagonist-Chris-McCandless.html ).

    It reminds me of Stanislaw Lem's protagonist's review of the academic literature on "Solaristics" at the beginning of Solaris.
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  56. Svigor says:

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here.

    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is “fixated,” but you accusing “everyone else around here” of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    That aside, it’s cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.

    It kinda does, doesn’t it? Jews hate nature and the outdoors, but they control journalism so they get an easy “in,” Scandinavians love nature and the outdoors but they don’t have that journalistic “in” like Jews do. I wonder if he sometimes gets creeped out while he’s out in the middle of nowhere and has to hop in his car and drive until he’s surrounded on all sides by diverse crowds and unbroken pavement. Only to be lured back out again by the call of the wild…

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    Jews hate nature and the outdoors,
     
    Well, let's not be too all encompassing. My Ashkenazi Jewish mother loves nature and the outdoors. My Scots-English father, in contrast, is completely oblivious to the call of the wild. Heck, my father used to moan and groan whenever my mother would propose a hiking expedition or a camping trip.
    , @syonredux

    Jews hate nature and the outdoors,
     
    Well, Krakauer attributes his love of the outdoors and mountaineering to his Jewish father:

    Although Jon Krakauer's relationship with his father was often strained and volatile, he picked up several things from him. First, he gained a love for mountain climbing. Second, he gained a great love of the outdoors. And third, he inherited a gift for writing from his father, who edited The Year Book of Sports Medicine on several occasions.
     
    http://publications.maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1458&index=10
    , @MQ
    Jews hate nature and the outdoors,

    A bizarre stereotype, although I guess it somehow relates the idea that Jews are an urban people. I love the outdoors and lots of my other Jewish friends do too. A lot of Israelis tend to be serious outdoors type, there is a cult of the land there as one would expect. In general, contrary to the views of some here, Jews are not malevolent conspirators produced in an underground cave at Jew Central, but products of their culture and times like everyone else. In America, the modern SWPL affection for national parks and the like means Jews, as upper-middle class Americans, are just as likely as any other SWPL whites to be into things like hiking.

    Jewish trivia: the inventor of the crampon and the leader of the first attempt on K2 was Jewish (Oscar Eckenstein).
    , @Art Deco
    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is “fixated,” but you accusing “everyone else around here” of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.
    --
    Gary Googler looks at this and sees Jews slamming others. The Jew thing is your shtick too. You fancy that's perfectly normal. It is not.
    , @Dave Pinsen

    Jews hate nature and the outdoors
     
    Except for golf courses and beaches, as Tom Wolfe noted in I Am Charlotte Simmons.
    , @silviosilver

    That aside, it’s cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.
     
    Ahh, careful there pal, you're going to get busted noticing again.
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  57. The Z Blog says: • Website
    @asdf
    Krak was/is a resident of Boulder, CO. The CU program was famous for it's criminal, rapist student-athletes. Interesting that he didn't make them the subject of his book. One can speculate why.

    It’s also famous for lunatic womyn making false accusations against those raping rapists on the football team. My recollection is the gals cratered the football program, got a lot of press and then it was quietly revealed to be mostly nonsense. IIRC, one of the players accused, a PPP, was found to have been in another state when the accuser said he raped her. That seems to happen a lot for some reason. I wonder why womyn are not rallying against interstate raping.

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    Some years ago, my blue-eyed blond friend got written up by our lesbian boss for relating a story about helping one of his subordinates deal thoughtfully with a perceived harassment issue, assisted by the gay HR guy.

    He was put on report the following Monday for allowing a hostile work environment. The coven factor helped nudge him toward a better job at a competitor. Lunches and staff meetings weren't the same after that, but that bad boss later left to the relief of many.
    , @ben tillman
    What is a PPP?
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  58. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    As whites lose their majority status, US will become a nation of minorities as no group will form a majority.

    Whites, blacks, browns, yellows, reds, Jews, Muslims, Arabs, etc will be minorities.

    [MORE]

    Jews want it this way. Divide and Rule made easier.

    Even so, there are other majorities that will remain and should be considered for political interest.

    Gentile majority.

    98% that is gentile vs 2% that is Jewish.

    Straight majority.

    97% that is straight vs 3% that is homo, bi, tranny, or whatever.

    Since PC equality is what the game is about, the great majorities should unite against Jewish minority elite power and homo minority elite privilege. Stop the subservience and adulation
    of these uber-privileged groups. They are least equal in power cuz they hog so much of it at others’ expense.

    Jews wanna divide and rule.
    But white gentiles can unite with other minorities and point finger at massive Jewish power, wealth, and privilege.

    White majority power is over. Jews killed it.

    If Jews wanna use non-whites against whites, white gentiles should use non-white gentiles against the Jewish over-class.

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  59. @Art Deco
    No, Medred's a malicious cretin who needed to blacken McCandless' memory because that's what malicious cretins do to aggrandize themselves.

    I lived in Anchorage from 1978 to 2000, and read everything Medred ever wrote. he is opinionated and abrasive–but a real Alaska backcountry guy and a superior writer. It is not a case of blackening McCandless’ memory, it was more stating the truth–the guy was a crazy man who had no business in the back country.

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    The actors in the 'Into the Wild' researched McCandless and all the sketchy guys he was hanging out with and guessed he was a homosexual and was just going around looking to get laid amongst whatever else he was trying to accomplish. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.
    , @Art Deco
    he is opinionated and abrasive–but a real Alaska backcountry guy and a superior writer.
    --
    No, he's a 'writer', and his shtick is being 'opinionated and abrasive'. It's a performance. It has little to do with integrity. He reached into the kitchen sink and threw everything rancid he could at McCandless, even making an issue of his expired car registration.
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  60. OsRazor says:
    @anon

    The reason rape culture is now feminism’s raison d’etre is...
     
    There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It's vast - absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn't be able to believe the scale of it.

    They know about it - through their connection to social work / education etc - but can't face it because of the political incorrectness so it's coming out this way instead. It's like all those Swedish shows with lots of white, blond Nazi rapists - it's a kind of transference because they can't handle the reality they created.

    “There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It’s vast – absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn’t be able to believe the scale of it.”

    Can’t be emphasized enough. The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning if it was covered with even 1% of the resources and attention focused on the supposed sexual deviancy and aggressiveness of heterosexual White males. Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.

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    The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning
     
    Did Huggy Bear give you that info,or was it all of those years you lived in the ghetto?
    , @Kylie

    The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning if it was covered with even 1% of the resources and attention focused on the supposed sexual deviancy and aggressiveness of heterosexual White males. Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.
     
    Exactly. This hysteria over the ubiquitous whiter ape culture is just projection and misdirection.

    I think I'll leave the typo alone. And yes, it was a typo.
    , @anonymous

    Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.
     
    But they must know, they can't be that blind except on purpose. Yet a large percentage of women just love love love those male gays even though there's no telling how many minutes ago it's been since that tongue of theirs was licking another man's rear end. I've asked a couple women here and there what the attraction was and never could get a straight answer. I wasn't sure if they were the sort of people who typically lie and stall until they know what the right answer is supposed to be or if they themselves had no capacity for insight.
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  61. @John Cunningham
    I lived in Anchorage from 1978 to 2000, and read everything Medred ever wrote. he is opinionated and abrasive--but a real Alaska backcountry guy and a superior writer. It is not a case of blackening McCandless' memory, it was more stating the truth--the guy was a crazy man who had no business in the back country.

    The actors in the ‘Into the Wild’ researched McCandless and all the sketchy guys he was hanging out with and guessed he was a homosexual and was just going around looking to get laid amongst whatever else he was trying to accomplish. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.

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    and guessed he was a homosexual. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.
    ---
    If they're 'guessing' it's because they have zero evidence.
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  62. @unit472
    University of Florida football players got tired of being seen as second rate gangsters as compared to Florida State's Aaron Hernandez and Jameis Winston so they are upping their 'game'.

    http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20150420/article/150429995?p=2&tc=pg

    GAINESVILLE - The University of Florida football player accused of being part of a weekend drug-related armed robbery has refused to cooperate with investigators, and the two men who allegedly committed the crime have not been identified, Gainesville police officials said on Monday.

    Now over at the Fraternity/Haven Monahan front it would seem Haven has had a 'race' transplant.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/19/three-shot-during-campus-cookout-at-dindu-nuffin-university-ddnu/

    Aaron Hernandez went to U of Florida, not FSU

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    To paraphrase Dan Jenkins, when Florida plays Florida State, they should officiate the game with a car alarm instead of a whistle.
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  63. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @OhComeOn
    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn't be together to begin with.

    I'm a girl.

    Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn't.

    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn’t be together to begin with.

    I don’t follow this. Are you saying that not having sex with the first hook up generally indicates incompatibility?

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    She is using stupid chick speak. It is deliberately vague. Girls want the guy to do all the talking and make all the moves so they can react to the guy. They are not open and honest. Ironic since all the women's magazines endlessly harp on openness and honesty. That is why roissy has a blog to tell guys what to do and say to get their desired reactions. Or as Miss Vague Innuendo would say, "Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn’t."
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  65. syonredux says: • Website
    @Svigor

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here.
     
    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is "fixated," but you accusing "everyone else around here" of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    That aside, it's cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.
     
    It kinda does, doesn't it? Jews hate nature and the outdoors, but they control journalism so they get an easy "in," Scandinavians love nature and the outdoors but they don't have that journalistic "in" like Jews do. I wonder if he sometimes gets creeped out while he's out in the middle of nowhere and has to hop in his car and drive until he's surrounded on all sides by diverse crowds and unbroken pavement. Only to be lured back out again by the call of the wild...

    Jews hate nature and the outdoors,

    Well, let’s not be too all encompassing. My Ashkenazi Jewish mother loves nature and the outdoors. My Scots-English father, in contrast, is completely oblivious to the call of the wild. Heck, my father used to moan and groan whenever my mother would propose a hiking expedition or a camping trip.

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  66. pinto says:
    @Anonymous
    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn’t be together to begin with.

    I don't follow this. Are you saying that not having sex with the first hook up generally indicates incompatibility?

    She is using stupid chick speak. It is deliberately vague. Girls want the guy to do all the talking and make all the moves so they can react to the guy. They are not open and honest. Ironic since all the women’s magazines endlessly harp on openness and honesty. That is why roissy has a blog to tell guys what to do and say to get their desired reactions. Or as Miss Vague Innuendo would say, “Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn’t.”

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  67. syonredux says: • Website
    @Svigor

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here.
     
    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is "fixated," but you accusing "everyone else around here" of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    That aside, it's cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.
     
    It kinda does, doesn't it? Jews hate nature and the outdoors, but they control journalism so they get an easy "in," Scandinavians love nature and the outdoors but they don't have that journalistic "in" like Jews do. I wonder if he sometimes gets creeped out while he's out in the middle of nowhere and has to hop in his car and drive until he's surrounded on all sides by diverse crowds and unbroken pavement. Only to be lured back out again by the call of the wild...

    Jews hate nature and the outdoors,

    Well, Krakauer attributes his love of the outdoors and mountaineering to his Jewish father:

    Although Jon Krakauer’s relationship with his father was often strained and volatile, he picked up several things from him. First, he gained a love for mountain climbing. Second, he gained a great love of the outdoors. And third, he inherited a gift for writing from his father, who edited The Year Book of Sports Medicine on several occasions.

    http://publications.maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1458&index=10

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  68. @Art Deco
    1. Almost no Jews outside the Orthodox subculture have families that large, nor did they in 1954. Read Joseph Epstein on the bog standard family configuration in his old neighborhood in Chicago: two children born about six years apart.

    2. Had his father wanted his children to have a Jewish upbringing, marrying a gentile and leaving a Boston suburb with a large Jewish population for a town in Oregon with few Jews is unclear on the concept.

    Well, there’s the weird case of Chelsea Handler, one of six, in crowded New Jersey. Jewish upbringing, Jewish dad, German jack-Mormon mom. Must be the LDS influence, it sure ain’t Jewish or German.

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    She had an abortion at 16. Sounds Jewish to me.
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  69. MQ says:
    @slumber_j
    See, I don't remember Into the Wild as a hagiography at all. From what I remember, Krakauer portrays his subject as a maddeningly mixed-up, self-regarding kid who used people up and ended his days in a haze of delusion and incompetence. The expression "Alexander Supertramp" comes to mind...

    It's been many years since I read the book, so maybe that's all wrong. But it's always seemed to me that the people who bizarrely revere McCandless have completely failed to understand the book.

    Right, the book Into the Wild is not a hagiography, although it’s not a black-and-white condemnation either. Krakauer does show affection/respect for the idea of young men testing themselves in the wilderness, a wanderjahre, etc. But McCandless himself is portrayed as somewhat disturbed and extreme in his pursuit of that kind of coming of age. He caused a lot of injury to his family, obviously.

    Sean Penn’s movie on the other hand is a lot more of a hagiography.

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  70. MQ says:
    @Svigor

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here.
     
    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is "fixated," but you accusing "everyone else around here" of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    That aside, it's cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.
     
    It kinda does, doesn't it? Jews hate nature and the outdoors, but they control journalism so they get an easy "in," Scandinavians love nature and the outdoors but they don't have that journalistic "in" like Jews do. I wonder if he sometimes gets creeped out while he's out in the middle of nowhere and has to hop in his car and drive until he's surrounded on all sides by diverse crowds and unbroken pavement. Only to be lured back out again by the call of the wild...

    Jews hate nature and the outdoors,

    A bizarre stereotype, although I guess it somehow relates the idea that Jews are an urban people. I love the outdoors and lots of my other Jewish friends do too. A lot of Israelis tend to be serious outdoors type, there is a cult of the land there as one would expect. In general, contrary to the views of some here, Jews are not malevolent conspirators produced in an underground cave at Jew Central, but products of their culture and times like everyone else. In America, the modern SWPL affection for national parks and the like means Jews, as upper-middle class Americans, are just as likely as any other SWPL whites to be into things like hiking.

    Jewish trivia: the inventor of the crampon and the leader of the first attempt on K2 was Jewish (Oscar Eckenstein).

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    "Jewish trivia: the inventor of the crampon and the leader of the first attempt on K2 was Jewish (Oscar Eckenstein)."

    Thelemic trivia: maybe it just makes a good story, but most web sources report that the joint leaders on K2 were Eckenstein and "the wickedest man in the world" Aleister Crowley.

    http://climbing.about.com/od/8000metermountains/a/Dateline-1902-First-Attempt-To-Climb-K2-Part-Ii.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
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  71. Truth says:
    @OsRazor
    "There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It’s vast – absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn’t be able to believe the scale of it."

    Can't be emphasized enough. The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning if it was covered with even 1% of the resources and attention focused on the supposed sexual deviancy and aggressiveness of heterosexual White males. Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they'd be running for the hills in hysteria.

    The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning

    Did Huggy Bear give you that info,or was it all of those years you lived in the ghetto?

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    "Did Huggy Bear give you that info,or was it all of those years you lived in the ghetto?"

    CDC numbers on venereal diseases for black teenagers, black teenager rates of HIV, black teen pregnancies. Following any number of websites which link to black dysfunction, usually reported locally and never nationally. Black rap music. Volumes and volumes of black literature spanning decades.

    It doesn't take much effort to discern that black sexual predation of its own teenagers is pretty much the norm.
    , @marty
    Nah, it was Big Mike in Berkeley. On the b-ball court he told me, "black people are messed up, man."
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  72. @Truth
    Responding to your own posts now Stanley? Oh well, I guess it's a good way to have an agreeable conversation.

    Anyway;

    Uh oh; Part XXVI:

    One hell of an uncomfortable van ride...
    '
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/few-details-about-police-encounter-that-led-to-mans-death/ar-AAblSv2?ocid=ansnewsap11

    Uh oh; Part XXVI:

    One hell of an uncomfortable van ride…

    Ah yes, the next Great Negro Victim of Evil Police. And this one presents quite well insofar as nobody is talking about what happened to sever his spinal cord. Was it before he went into the van when the cops were dragging him? Before that? Inside the van?

    This newest negro martyr had only been arrested 20 times previously so clearly he was turning his life around and his mother assures us he was a “good boy.” It’s really miraculous he survived he prior 20 arrests given the cop brutality we hear about every day.

    In any case, the worst obstacle for the Narrative here is the negro female mayor who vetoed the body cameras for cops. And the negro police chief. And the 20 prior arrests. And Baltimore…

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  73. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/19/big-idea-california-is-so-over.html

    One could rainfall will reverse the fortunes of Mexifornia, no?

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  74. Art Deco says: • Website
    @John Cunningham
    I lived in Anchorage from 1978 to 2000, and read everything Medred ever wrote. he is opinionated and abrasive--but a real Alaska backcountry guy and a superior writer. It is not a case of blackening McCandless' memory, it was more stating the truth--the guy was a crazy man who had no business in the back country.

    he is opinionated and abrasive–but a real Alaska backcountry guy and a superior writer.

    No, he’s a ‘writer’, and his shtick is being ‘opinionated and abrasive’. It’s a performance. It has little to do with integrity. He reached into the kitchen sink and threw everything rancid he could at McCandless, even making an issue of his expired car registration.

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    No, he’s a ‘writer’, and his shtick is being ‘opinionated and abrasive’. It’s a performance. It has little to do with integrity. He reached into the kitchen sink and threw everything rancid he could at McCandless, even making an issue of his expired car registration.
     
    Why are you so invested in this guy whom, until today, I had never heard of?
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  75. @Steve Sailer
    The Amish do bundling, using a board or bags.

    The Amish do bundling, using a board or bags.

    Don’t Mormons have some magic underwear that prohibits wickedness?

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    Don’t Mormons have some magic underwear that prohibits wickedness?
     
    Magic? They look pretty effective.
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  76. Art Deco says: • Website
    @albert magnus
    The actors in the 'Into the Wild' researched McCandless and all the sketchy guys he was hanging out with and guessed he was a homosexual and was just going around looking to get laid amongst whatever else he was trying to accomplish. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.

    and guessed he was a homosexual. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.

    If they’re ‘guessing’ it’s because they have zero evidence.

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    ...and guessed he was a homosexual. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.

    If they’re ‘guessing’ it’s because they have zero evidence.
     
    Why are you so invested in this guy whom, until today, I had never heard of?
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  77. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Svigor

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here.
     
    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is "fixated," but you accusing "everyone else around here" of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    That aside, it's cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.
     
    It kinda does, doesn't it? Jews hate nature and the outdoors, but they control journalism so they get an easy "in," Scandinavians love nature and the outdoors but they don't have that journalistic "in" like Jews do. I wonder if he sometimes gets creeped out while he's out in the middle of nowhere and has to hop in his car and drive until he's surrounded on all sides by diverse crowds and unbroken pavement. Only to be lured back out again by the call of the wild...

    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is “fixated,” but you accusing “everyone else around here” of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    Gary Googler looks at this and sees Jews slamming others. The Jew thing is your shtick too. You fancy that’s perfectly normal. It is not.

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  78. Big Bill says:
    @Jonathan Silber
    ...girl wakes up with bruises on her neck, boy apologizes and tells her his name...

    And people say chivalry is dead!

    Why do I think that “bruises” on her neck really means “hickeys”?

    I remember catching hell in junior high school when my female “bruising victim” didn’t discover her “bruises” until the mean girls laughingly pointed them out the next day in study hall (and started gossiping about how easy she was). She saved face by slapping me in the lunch room.

    Thank goodness girls weren’t claiming rape back then to save face. I might have wound up in prison.

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    I know. Just a few years ago I saw bruises on my sons' necks (both in college these days) and I was alarmed. But, I suddenly remembered: having been raised on the east coast (my parents were emigres from Scandinavia) and, trying to fit-in (we moved a few times in the USA) with a new group of girls in 7th grade, I pretended I knew what hickeys were - they're still very disgusting and stupid, btw! I always thought about the piranhas in Brazil.
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  79. @CK
    One always chronicles the misdeeds of one's enemies and forgets the misdeeds of ones own.
    If ones enemy does not have enough misdeeds, one creates them out of thin air and markets them as truths.
    After the Boston Marathon bombing, the internets were full of bloviators and other deep thinkers analyzing the attack before any facts were in. One of my favourite memories of that period was two Jewish intellectuals in a discussion of the affair, hoping that it would be a white person that did the bombing not a semite. They were very happy that they were not whites in their own estimation. Granted that is the internet intellectual class and as such is probably not completely representative of current strands in Jewish Intellectual positions.

    Reminds me of that sociology professor from CSU San Bernardino, Brian Levin, head of the “Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,” who assured the world repeatedly on CNN that the DC sniper would be a “wallpaper white male”.

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  80. @Art Deco
    1. Since when is Krakauer Jewish?

    2. One of his more recent scalps was David Oliver Relin, who certainly was Jewish, and was so mortified at having his name blackened that he committed suicide.

    Just a wild guess.

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  82. Kylie says:
    @OsRazor
    "There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It’s vast – absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn’t be able to believe the scale of it."

    Can't be emphasized enough. The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning if it was covered with even 1% of the resources and attention focused on the supposed sexual deviancy and aggressiveness of heterosexual White males. Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they'd be running for the hills in hysteria.

    The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning if it was covered with even 1% of the resources and attention focused on the supposed sexual deviancy and aggressiveness of heterosexual White males. Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.

    Exactly. This hysteria over the ubiquitous whiter ape culture is just projection and misdirection.

    I think I’ll leave the typo alone. And yes, it was a typo.

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  83. george says:

    Not to be picky but: Is this really representative of campus date rape? If I get the story right, victim and rapist knew each other since childhood, so it is really not a campus story, maybe a small town story. The difference is that she may have let her guard down for someone she knew all her life, so this is not really an ideal example of a campus date rape scenario.

    As a minor note, that the perpetrator was tricked into confessing during a phone call secretly monitored by police indicates there may be a low IQ issue here. Maybe even a very low IQ. Maybe the university issue is why he was there and circulating with the student body? I am guessing based on a skimming one or two articles, so I could be getting it all wrong.

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  84. Big Bill says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    Decades ago on a cross-country motorcycle trip I stopped by a high school friend’s apartment. She insisted I stay the night at her place instead of camping. I did. She insisted I stay in bed with her. I did. I fell asleep.

    I woke up to her fondling my penis. When I rolled over toward her, she said, “no … no”, so I rolled back and fell asleep again.

    Again she fondled my penis and woke me up. Without moving a muscle I said, “Now that you have it what are you going to do with it?” She withdrew her hand and left me alone for the rest of the night.

    Girls are weird.

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  85. Ivy says:
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    It's also famous for lunatic womyn making false accusations against those raping rapists on the football team. My recollection is the gals cratered the football program, got a lot of press and then it was quietly revealed to be mostly nonsense. IIRC, one of the players accused, a PPP, was found to have been in another state when the accuser said he raped her. That seems to happen a lot for some reason. I wonder why womyn are not rallying against interstate raping.

    Some years ago, my blue-eyed blond friend got written up by our lesbian boss for relating a story about helping one of his subordinates deal thoughtfully with a perceived harassment issue, assisted by the gay HR guy.

    He was put on report the following Monday for allowing a hostile work environment. The coven factor helped nudge him toward a better job at a competitor. Lunches and staff meetings weren’t the same after that, but that bad boss later left to the relief of many.

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    If you're a competent guy, i'd recommend--sight unseen--not working for a female boss.

    But a fair minded take is to take in the situation, and see what sort of woman she is. Some women appreciate male talent and ability and will be fair minded to get the most out of them. If you reviews, raises and promotions seem reasonable. Fine.

    But if there's any sign of anti-male bias--get out. Vote your competency\value against anti-male corporate feminization. If competent guys--who lets face it, do pretty much all the mission critical work--continually vote against being bossed around by tedious females, corporations will respond.

    I see absolutely zero reason any man should accept a lesbian boss. Put in your transfer request ASAP. Vote not just "no", but "hell no!"
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  86. Big Bill says:
    @Stan Adams
    I mean, not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-*havers*.

    (No matter how much edit time you give us, I always spot one big mistake after the comment is locked for good.)

    In the future just type “NABALT” (not all blacks are like that) or “NAWALT” (not all women are like that). That way we can quickly skim over your straw man.

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  87. @The Z Blog
    It's also famous for lunatic womyn making false accusations against those raping rapists on the football team. My recollection is the gals cratered the football program, got a lot of press and then it was quietly revealed to be mostly nonsense. IIRC, one of the players accused, a PPP, was found to have been in another state when the accuser said he raped her. That seems to happen a lot for some reason. I wonder why womyn are not rallying against interstate raping.

    What is a PPP?

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  88. @inertial
    This book was rushed to print specifically to prop up the failing Narrative after it was derailed by the Rolling Stone UVA fiasco. That's not my speculation: Jon Krakauer says so himself.

    The sad thing is there's a lot of doubters and haters out there who think women lie about rape and, you know, there isn't a problem, and this is ammunition for them. And you know, the fact that my book was rushed into print — it originally wasn't going to come out until next fall but my publisher and I decided, in part because of the Rolling Stone mess, that it'd be a good time to show this book; that no ... the overwhelming majority, you know, of victims do not lie about rape.
     

    The sad thing is there’s a lot of doubters and haters out there who think women lie about rape and, you know, there isn’t a problem, and this is ammunition for them. And you know, the fact that my book was rushed into print — it originally wasn’t going to come out until next fall but my publisher and I decided, in part because of the Rolling Stone mess, that it’d be a good time to show this book; that no … the overwhelming majority, you know, of victims do not lie about rape.

    That’s a tautology. Of course, victims don’t lie about rape, but we’re not talking about victims. We’re talking about accusers.

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  89. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    Isn’t this PC craziness like ISIS?

    After all, ISIS is just an Islamic version of what is happening in the West.

    ISIS, like SJW, are amnesiac and deranged. They are not like traditional Muslims with respect for the past. They are radical loonies who wallow in destruction for destruction sake.

    Western PC loonies or SJW–social justice warriors–don’t go around murdering people, but their world-view is no less demented, which is why we have lunacies like the UVA rape hoax case. Pure hysteria.

    [MORE]

    And ‘hands up don’t shoot’ hoax in Ferguson.
    And the likes of Lena Dunham committing cultural terrorism against morality, decency, and taste. They destroy the souls of youth of America. And the wall between mainstream pop and porn has vanished. Look at Nicki Minaj’s ANACONDA or Miley Cyrus’s WRECKING BALL.
    It’s culture on the level of “Ow My Balls” in IDIOCRACY.

    ISIS and SJW are part of globalist youth radicalism. A world without roots, world without sense, world without proportions. A world where insipid youths can be driven to believe, scream, or do anything.
    Once respectable Time Mag praises Kanye West as the most influential figure in the world. The #1 search item in 2014 was Kim Kardashian.
    American culture is cultural terrorism, pure and simple.

    The West, un-moored from meaningful tradition and values, now has young people screaming and bitching about false ‘rape culture’, trigger warnings, every perceived ‘micro-aggression’, bogus nonsense like Ellen Pao Wow crap, and other tripe. They call for destruction for pizza stores that won’t cater to nonsense like ‘gay marriage’. CEO-cracy and even the Supreme Court take full part in the destruction of moral America. Our politicians are whores who do the bidding of globlalists who foment wars in Syria and Ukraine.

    The spread of ‘gay marriage’ is indicative of the cultural terrorism and moral terrorism against decency and values. It’s been judgepacked on America.

    ISIS claims to stand for Islam, but these nutjobs just love to destroy for the thrill of destruction. It’s Islamic version of Rap thug culture.

    They pretend to oppose globalism but they represent the globalization of radical Islam that is unbound by institutions, tradition, and hierarchy. It’s just crazed thugs and radicals making up their own fashionable rules of what Islam is about.

    ISIS do it with violence. SJW, minions of ruthless globalists, do it with hysteria and pressure.
    End result is the same. Total destruction of all that is sensible, decent, and sane.

    Whether it’s ISIS smashing marvels of ancient architecture or SJW drowning Christian Churches with a sea of ‘gay rainbow flags’, it’s unhinged lunacy trashing everything in their parth.

    What is the spiritual difference between ISIS and Pussy Riot(and Lena Dunham)?
    What is the moral difference between ISIS freaks who smash things and wreak havoc in the Middle East and scum like Victoria Nuland and Anne Applebaum who foment trouble in Eastern Europe and Ukraine to cause more wars and destruction?
    And what is the difference between ISIS radicals destroying cultures and communities all across the Middle East and the SJW minions of psychopath globalists using hysteria and lunacy to destroy the meaning of true marriage all across America?
    ISIS, having no official power, use terrorist violence. SJW, with backing of the most powerful elites in the world, use hysteria backed up perversion of law to destroy every cake shop or pizzeria that don’t agree with the filth of ‘gay marriage’.

    American values are now Pussy Riot, Lena Dunham, Sabrina Rubin Erdely(not even fired while Jason Richwine got the can for speaking the truth), Charles Blowhard, Elena Kagan, and Hillary whose new ad romaniticizes ‘gay couples’ as the ‘new normal’.

    Just like there was a ‘silent majority’ that Nixon defended, there is a silent terrorism, and a silent terrorism has overrun this country. And there is no resistance. While US is being SJW-ed into ‘gay marriage’ and ‘amnesty’ for flagrantly arrogant illegals, the GOP’s idea of patriotism is inviting Netanyahu to address Congress about…. Iran!

    If someone told me 20 yrs ago that Supreme Court would be pushing ‘gay marriage’ on everyone, and US would trigger a new cold war with Russia over something as insipid as ‘gay marriage’, I would have thought the person crazy. But silent terrorism has taken over this country and destroyed all that is meaningful. The likes of Masha Gessen are allowed to speak for America. She is a cultural terrorist.

    The problem is Pop Culture to a great extent. Pop Culture is the Other PC, or OPC.
    P-Culture can be fun, but when it is the ONLY cultural experience of young people, it is more than entertainment. It is meaning of life itself.

    There was a time when most Americans didn’t have TV’s. Many didn’t have radios. They found meaning through family, relatives, churches, organizations, ethnic groups, tradition, and etc. Even with rise of movies, there was an understanding that movies were on the screen and reality was something else.
    And when TV came along, there were just a few channels and fixed programming. Also, pop culture wasn’t so crazy and lewd back then. Also, families stayed together.

    Things began to change with kids getting their own rooms in the 50s and 60s, especially true as families had fewer kids in post-boomer era. And then kids had their own TVs in their rooms, and then came cable TV and videogames. And then internet and social networking, and etc.
    On top of that, families began breaking apart. And ethnic communities faded, church attendance went down.
    So, pop culture became the new identity, new meaning, new everything.

    So, whatever is fashionable or cool in pop culture is no longer a matter of entertainment but has become the very meaning of life. And we see the result of this in millennials who have no sense of roots, past, meaning, and etc. It’s because they lack roots that they can fall for something like ‘gay marriage’ with such ease. Millennials are mindless drones who think Pussy Riot are moral crusaders. They see nothing wrong with Lena Dunham or Amanda Marcotte because their entire cultural experience revolves around amnesiac trash that obliterates all reverence for the past, continuity, and timeless values.
    Erderly is typical of her millennial shit kind. But then, millennials didn’t make themselves but were shaped by the world that came before them.

    Mao said of Red Guards that they could be made to do anything because their minds are blank. Having grow up under indoctrination since the commie takeover of China, they have no memory of anything that came before. They have no sense of roots to Chinese past, and they were made to feel closer to Mao and communist party than to their families or communities. So, red guards by the millions were easily swayed into running around smashing art works, buildings, burning books, and etc. In a few yrs, much of China was razed to the ground in the name of ‘justice’.

    ISIS is the Islamic version of this lunacy. And SJW are the western version. Western version need not be as violent since the Powers That Be that manipulate the SJW have economic, legal, and political means to destroy anyone who stands in the way of SJW who are very well funded by the Jewish and homo lobbies.

    While I support the freedom of speech of Charlie Hebdo, it too is a SJW radical outfit. It is not for free speech for all but only for free speech to destroy all tradition. Hebdo trashes conservative Europe, Christian Europe, Islam, and Muhammad. But it joins with SJW to silence anyone who stands up to Jewish power and the massive tide of globalism. It is anti-tradition and anti-nation. It is about as pro-free speech as Lena Dunhams and Sabrina Rubin Erderlys of the world are, i.e. ‘free speech for us even when we lie or spread hatred, but no free speech for you even when you speak the truth’. Cultural terrorism.
    Why else do we live in a country where Rick Sanchez is out of a job, Jason Richwine has been blacklisted, and James Watson has to sell his Nobel prize to make ends meet… while the likes of Sabrina Rubin are protected and defended?

    SJW-ism is just a more effective but no less deadly western version of ISIS-ism.

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  90. The Jameis Winston story seems adequately publicized to me: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Jameis+Winston+rape&start=0

    Here is an academic feminist actually fighting with the Notre Dame administration over the alleged assault that happened there: http://chronicle.com/blognetwork/tenuredradical/2015/03/update-notre-dame-requests-changes-in-a-post/

    One non-racial factor about the Duke and UVa stories was that (had they been true) they were gang rapes, which most people would find horrifying beyond a one-on-one incident. The authentic Steubenville case, which involved a white and a black together, received a fair amount of publicity. Here is an article in a certain pre-disgraced magazine: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/anonymous-vs-steubenville-20131127

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  91. Anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    I’ve shared a bed with a chick before. She was quite good looking, too. I considered it a favor. It was one of those uncomfortable hotel situations. There were two men and two women. I dislike the idea of sharing a hotel bed with another guy as much as I dislike community showers.

    And this was somewhat off-topic and didn’t contribute to the conversation at all.

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    next time, make your co. pay for your own room or, if they are cheapskates: a suite with a pull-out sofabed. I did that all the time when doing "travel" soccer, wrestling, fencing, rugby with my sons. There was no way in hell they wanted to share a king with mom.
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  92. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    The beginning of Jewish and Homo alliance.

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  93. @anon

    but not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-lackers.
     
    leaving aside your freudian slip not a single person post has said *all* rape cases were committed by non-whites because that would obviously not be true.

    the point is the disproportion in the media goes in the exact opposite direction to the disproportion in reality which highlights the media's anti-white racism.

    Hey, I’m a white guy, too.

    Yes, you’re right – in the media’s eyes, blacks never do wrong and whites never do right, facts and statistics be damned.

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  94. Bill P says:
    @NOTA
    I find commercials and other ads are a good place to start my kids thinking about deception and how someon is trying to influence them with images and words.

    TV Commercials are a good start, but nothing makes it really sink in like a face-to-face lie. I was with my kids in a parking lot on one occasion waiting for their mom when a strung-out woman approached us with one of those “my car’s out of gas and I need ten bucks” stories. I asked her where her car was, and she said it was on the freeway ramp, so I reluctantly gave her some pocket change to make her go away. She immediately went over to a nice looking older lady with the story, and managed to con a twenty out of her. We were still watching as she then proceeded to a car in the parking lot and drove away, presumably to score some meth.

    I then calmly explained to my kids that she had lied to us to get money, probably for drugs. It made quite an impression on them, and they understood very quickly. I’m fairly certain that my parents would not have explained the situation to me when I was that age, instead telling me she “needed help” or something like that, which only would have further confused me.

    I don’t think kids need to be geniuses to grasp the basics of skepticism, but if you don’t teach them they won’t learn, just as people unschooled in numbers won’t learn arithmetic. I’m pretty sure this basic understanding gives Asian kids a big institutional advantage these days over white kids from high-trust communities.

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  95. Krakauer is a really strong writer and polemicist, but he has a history of fudging and twisting facts to support his narrative. I ended up hanging out with a bunch of high altitude mountaineers one evening, including friends and climbing buddies of the late New Zealand climber/guide, Rob Hall, and as soon as Krakauer’s name came up they let loose with how much they hated the guy and what an inaccurate, unfair book they felt Into Thin Air had been. Said one: “It was pretty weird to have a guy who stayed in his tent when other people were pulling survivors off the mountain to be standing in judgment of other climbers and their decisions.”

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  96. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    I have an idea for a ‘Gay marriage’ and Pizzeria Compromise.

    Okay, all pizzerias have to accept ‘gay marriage’ as real marriage and service ‘gay weddings’.

    But pizzerias should have the right to serve fake plastic pizzas to ‘gay weddings’, and
    homos must accept plastic pizzas as real pizzas in the name of ‘pizza equality’.

    If ‘gay wedding’ is a real wedding, then surely plastic pizza is real pizza.
    And as plastic pizzas should be officially recognized as real pizzas, pizzerias should have the right to serve them to ‘gay weddings’ to celebrate two kinds of ‘equality’: “marriage equality” and “pizza equality”.

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  97. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @OsRazor
    "There is a real rape culture in the gang-ruled inner cities.

    It’s vast – absolutely vast. If the media told the truth most people wouldn’t be able to believe the scale of it."

    Can't be emphasized enough. The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning if it was covered with even 1% of the resources and attention focused on the supposed sexual deviancy and aggressiveness of heterosexual White males. Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they'd be running for the hills in hysteria.

    Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.

    But they must know, they can’t be that blind except on purpose. Yet a large percentage of women just love love love those male gays even though there’s no telling how many minutes ago it’s been since that tongue of theirs was licking another man’s rear end. I’ve asked a couple women here and there what the attraction was and never could get a straight answer. I wasn’t sure if they were the sort of people who typically lie and stall until they know what the right answer is supposed to be or if they themselves had no capacity for insight.

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    I’ve asked a couple women here and there what the attraction was and never could get a straight answer.
     
    Heh.
    , @OsRazor
    "But they must know, they can’t be that blind except on purpose."

    I honestly think most White women see gays as asexual creatures, the perfect companion. The fact that gays are the MOST sexual demographic by multiples of 10 or so in terms of number of partners and risky acts just doesn't enter the picture for most White women. Certainly the media has done everything to convince White women that gays are much more monogamous and loving than heterosexuals and it just doesn't delve into the absolute filth of gay sexual practices ever.

    In 99.999% of heterosexual White males, take their most ridiculous fantasies--being with two women at the same time, being able to just have sex with that hot chick waiting on your table at the restaurant or taking your blood pressure at the doctor's office--any fantasy or fetish imagined, such will remain unrealized forever and are left behind when the straight guy enters his 40s or so.

    Not so with gays, whatever they fantasize can be realized and is realized. A lot. Over and over. Their whole world is living out their sexual fantasies on a daily basis. It is their point of being alive.

    , @ben tillman


    But they must know, they can’t be that blind except on purpose.
     
    Women, let alone ordinary women, are not present when gay men do what they do.
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  98. Lagertha says:
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    I've commented on this before, but according to the president of UM, Krakauer never spoke with anyone from the university while researching this story. Seems like something you'd want to touch base on if you're going to write a book about this. Oh well, I guess the facts were self-evident.

    I've read a fair amount of Krakauer's work because I used to be involved in a lot of the stuff he once wrote about, like hiking and climbing. I've enjoyed his books and articles, but as a writer I think he can get in over his head pretty quickly when he strays too far from kayaks and caribiners. He doesn't come across as the sharpest piton on the rack, if you know what I mean.

    exactly; by consistently straying away from kayaks, valleys in Utah, bears, who is going to buy his books? My husband was a big fan of him with “Into Thin Air,” and we found the book about the Mormons fascinating yet, creepy – could this have painted Romney as too creepy for Americans? …I know, that sounds utterly ridiculous!

    It was at this point that I started to worry that K was looking to find salacious topics that would sell. I found CM and his escapades in Alaska to be the next book that seemed to me to be exploiting an obviously delusional person who I had trouble reading about since I knew he would die.

    Why Montana? Is Montana (personally, very beloved) because of its majority white (Scandinavian, Dutch & German immigrants settled there long ago) population? Does Montana somehow conjure-up some idea that bad stuff can’t possibly be happening at sensible, rugged mountain towns BUT it’s all a mirage, and I’m gonna write about it?

    I have gone to Grizzlies and Bobcats football games, and, yes, they are in the highest div possible for the mountain states, but it is not like going to a Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama game. You can look up all those stats at UM & MSU and it pales in comparison with student misbehavior/crime compared to the Big 10, 12, SEC or elite universities like Wesleyan.

    In fact, why didn’t Krakauer write a book about Wesleyan? It is a virtual trifecta of salaciousness and crime this past year: 1. a couple of rapes (@ 2 frats) 2. student has TBI falling from a 3rd floor window last year. 3. twelve students OD on Molly…3 students get kicked out for dealing. This was national news…names are printed…names are on Middletown police logs. There was no fear of anything being made-up by anyone. So What is K’s grudge or intent with tainting UM? Is he falling into that Jerry Springer mode where you just wanna find something juicy to shock people…even if it will ruin the reputation of a school? a student? Has anyone really looked at the facts since he didn’t speak to anyone at UM?

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman if there was any “rape culture” at MSU, and, he said no (they knew about Missoula, their rival, being painted as a “rape culture” school) but a drunk guy had walked into a women’s shower and passed-out last fall. The campus police said he was so incoherent that they suspected he did not know he was in a women’s shower in a co-ed dorm.

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    Maybe he never heard about the Wesleyan thing. Also, the man is based in Colorado. Traveling to Montana is likely less costly than traveling to Connecticut, and perhaps more in tune with how he prefers to spend his time. Greg Mortensen's operations were also based in Montana, so perhaps he could amortize costs over two research projects.
    , @Percy Gryce

    Why Montana?
     
    It might have to do with the fact that Krakauer's last project was debunking Greg ("Three Cups of Tea") Mortenson. Mortenson's Central Asia Institute has its headquarters in Bozeman.
    , @Ivy
    Montana also presents an archetypal place to tug at American notions, in a sad way echoing what many felt about OKC (sad reminiscence on the 20th anniversary of that horrific event). Even the Russians liked it, at least as voiced by the person of Sam Neill playing the role of Vasily Borodin in The Hunt for Red October. He wanted to move there and raise rabbits. Maybe Tom Clancy was onto something 30 years ago when he wrote the book?

    Once the westerners are also tarred with the SJW brush then expect more retconning of cowboy history and other formative stories that will be decried as patriarchal myths to support blah blah blah.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman…
     
    Just out of curiosity, why is there a film school at this institution? Or, even less explicably, at Southern Illinois?

    Has anything of interest come from either place?
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  99. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Doesn’t this 1976 classic from Benjamin Stein seem pretty much on point here with regard to Missoula?

    http://www.nationalaffairs.com/doclib/20080527_197604402whateverhappenedtosmalltownamericabenjaminstein.pdf

    “Now hardened television watchers know for sure that they are about to see one of the few formula scenarios of the movies and television today-the nightmare descent of the innocent city dweller into the incomprehensibly wicked and evil depths of the countryside.”

    “This characterization of the small town as evil and threatening to innocent city dwellers is now a staple of contemporary American mass culture. But the small town wasn’t always seen that way. Over a relatively brief time, cultural attitudes towards small towns have changed virtually 180 degrees, from the old view of the small town as the bastion of everything good about America to the current view of the small town as everything frightening and corrupt about America. The change has been so complete that when we see a ves- tige of the old view appear, we are startled.
    Yet last summer, when New York City was having such severe fiscal troubles, the old view surfaced. In a column in The Wall Street lournal, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., said that President Ford’s reluctance to help New York could be explained entirely by the tra- ditional American antipathy towards the big city, and love for the small town. (Professor Schlesinger has obviously not been watching enough television.)”

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    I understand your post, but small towns are now very appealing again (while I am living in the Tri-State area; east coast). And, college towns like Missoula, are in the Forbes top 20 to retire to. And, SV buying up property/setting up cubicles in cute old grain depots all over the Rocky Mountain range....so NOT complaining about that - my sons will be closer when I am 80.
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  100. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Why do jews hate men of European origin? Is it jealousy?

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    Why do jews hate men of European origin? Is it jealousy?

     

    Like everyone, it is fear and awe.

    That may sound simplistic, but the sheer ability demonstrated by the civilization and technology created by white men is fearsome and awesome. Probably before the Holocaust, most Jews just had the normal fear and awe everyone has. Now some Jews have somewhat understandable greater fear. Most don't have more fear, but some may. Anyway, people naturally hate what they fear and awe. See the 7th-10th commandments for further understanding.
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  101. Steve pointed out a long time ago that the top colleges for per-capita sexual assault per year were small elite liberal arts schools: http://www.unz.com/isteve/defining-deviancy-up/ .

    While large state schools definitely host more brutes, especially because of large athletic programs, it’s interesting to see the lack of focus on the actual “problem” schools as indicated by data. It’s also interesting that tech schools, which typically have a male:female ratio of about 2:1, don’t break the top 50. One would think that in such patriarchal environments, there would be a terrible, awful rape culture!

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    As I said earlier: Wesleyan, Yale, Connecticut College, etc... Wesleyan has the trifecta of incidents...and most lawsuits against it, right now, of all U's in the USA. So, yeah, University of Montana is just being shafted, big time, by Krakauer with his book that he nervously expedited to print knowing what I just stated. Who is gonna buy this book? Who would read it for enlightenment, pleasure, strength?

    And, I can assure you, U of Montana is not a bastion of the privileged, wealthy, white students. In fact, both UM and MSU are proud to say that 3-5% of their students are native Americans; most students are middle class and have loans; 5% foreign students; 5% URM's, and 5% athletes on scholarship (weirdly, the footballers are from Polynesia) - look it up - Montana is a cold state...one of the reasons one of my sons is in Texas for college.

    I am a graduate of an east coast elite university, and I am a 6th generation university graduate, and it makes me sick that someone would try to disparage a state university for personal profit.
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  102. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Lagertha
    exactly; by consistently straying away from kayaks, valleys in Utah, bears, who is going to buy his books? My husband was a big fan of him with "Into Thin Air," and we found the book about the Mormons fascinating yet, creepy - could this have painted Romney as too creepy for Americans? ...I know, that sounds utterly ridiculous!

    It was at this point that I started to worry that K was looking to find salacious topics that would sell. I found CM and his escapades in Alaska to be the next book that seemed to me to be exploiting an obviously delusional person who I had trouble reading about since I knew he would die.

    Why Montana? Is Montana (personally, very beloved) because of its majority white (Scandinavian, Dutch & German immigrants settled there long ago) population? Does Montana somehow conjure-up some idea that bad stuff can't possibly be happening at sensible, rugged mountain towns BUT it's all a mirage, and I'm gonna write about it?

    I have gone to Grizzlies and Bobcats football games, and, yes, they are in the highest div possible for the mountain states, but it is not like going to a Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama game. You can look up all those stats at UM & MSU and it pales in comparison with student misbehavior/crime compared to the Big 10, 12, SEC or elite universities like Wesleyan.

    In fact, why didn't Krakauer write a book about Wesleyan? It is a virtual trifecta of salaciousness and crime this past year: 1. a couple of rapes (@ 2 frats) 2. student has TBI falling from a 3rd floor window last year. 3. twelve students OD on Molly...3 students get kicked out for dealing. This was national news...names are printed...names are on Middletown police logs. There was no fear of anything being made-up by anyone. So What is K's grudge or intent with tainting UM? Is he falling into that Jerry Springer mode where you just wanna find something juicy to shock people...even if it will ruin the reputation of a school? a student? Has anyone really looked at the facts since he didn't speak to anyone at UM?

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman if there was any "rape culture" at MSU, and, he said no (they knew about Missoula, their rival, being painted as a "rape culture" school) but a drunk guy had walked into a women's shower and passed-out last fall. The campus police said he was so incoherent that they suspected he did not know he was in a women's shower in a co-ed dorm.

    Maybe he never heard about the Wesleyan thing. Also, the man is based in Colorado. Traveling to Montana is likely less costly than traveling to Connecticut, and perhaps more in tune with how he prefers to spend his time. Greg Mortensen’s operations were also based in Montana, so perhaps he could amortize costs over two research projects.

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  103. Bill says:
    @OhComeOn
    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn't be together to begin with.

    I'm a girl.

    Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn't.

    I’m a girl.

    Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn’t.

    This is so good it almost has to be a troll. Honey, it has never, ever happened in whole history of the human race that “things just happened” or “things just worked out” or “it was so natural.” Every single time you think that has happened to you, it is because your counterparty is working at it.

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  104. BubbaJoe says:
    @slumber_j
    See, I don't remember Into the Wild as a hagiography at all. From what I remember, Krakauer portrays his subject as a maddeningly mixed-up, self-regarding kid who used people up and ended his days in a haze of delusion and incompetence. The expression "Alexander Supertramp" comes to mind...

    It's been many years since I read the book, so maybe that's all wrong. But it's always seemed to me that the people who bizarrely revere McCandless have completely failed to understand the book.

    “See, I don’t remember Into the Wild as a hagiography at all”

    it was the movie that did that. Krakauer’s book was just very empathetic towards a harmless, deeply unwell man. It was also wrong in how and why McCandless died.

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  105. @Gunnar von Cowtown

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more.
     
    Even Gen X women were starting to do this back in the late 90s. I've been out of the game for a while, but this odd behavior was typically exhibited by women looking down the barrel of a "notch-count" that's just a little too high to mesh with her sense of self-worth. A good girl knows that she shouldn't be in your bed this soon, and goes home. A good girl who is young/naive enough, totally into you and just can't help herself, will be expecting a long term relationship and she's probably imagining how cute your last name sounds with her first name. A slut just doesn't care. It's the girls who have been around the block and had their hearts broken a few times, yet aren't comfortable going full-on "Samantha" who tend to pull this stunt.

    It's not only a mindf*** for emasculated men, but also a mindf*** for high-T men raised to be honorable. The Roissy/Heartiste concepts of "shit-test", "anti-slut defense" and "last minute resistance" explain it all.

    If you behave yourself, it's a one-way ticket to the friend zone.
    If you initiate anyway, that's probably what she wanted all along.
    If you initiate and she still says no, she'll at least take you seriously as a man and likely be more receptive in a couple of days.

    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night(that’s after many attempts to remove her clothes have failed), don’t tell her any stuff like “it’s okay, I understand” just “I gotta go” and then leave suddenly so she gets the message. Don’t act angry, but act like you have already forgotten about her as you are leaving, you want her to think you are just going to some other girl’s bed that night.

    Next time you hang out alone with her, sex will almost certainly happen. She was already close if you got her in that situation, but she was testing you to see if you were the kind of pathetic loser who would lay in bed all night without sex. I can’t believe any man would actually waste their night laying in bed with a girl after being rejected like that. Seriously, don’t you have thrills to seek? I just wanted to get the f— out of their as soon as I realized I wasn’t getting any. I just can’t imagine what it would be like to be the kind of man who would stay. Would rather sleep in my own bed at the end of the night either way.

    IMO, girls who pull those kinds of stunts are not sexually confident in themselves and are not really worth much. You are not going have great sex with someone so immature and neurotic.

    [MORE]

    I find all these game discussion on alt right websites hilarious because I was a jock/juvenile delinquent as a teenager. I was the guy who went through puberty early, who got in lots of fights and won all the fights that that I had with boys from school. Funny to read all the angst over jerks and badboys. If you can’t beat em join em. It was fun as hell. If I could live my life again I would be even worse.

    One of my most memorable moments was when I locked some guy I didn’t like’s book bag in his locker or something like that(maybe I locked his bag in someone else’s locker?) and this big rich kid basketball player said something to me like “leave him alone.” I told him something like “shut up fag” and then a teacher came and made us all go to class. I didn’t think a damn thing of it until some kids in one of my classes told me the dude was mad that I called him a “fag” and wanted to fight me.

    I was surprised this dude would want to fight me. Maybe he though being a lot taller would help him. I had already beaten up older and bigger kids. I’m very athletic, well coordinated and good at fighting so that for me to fight a non fighting sport trained boy like this one was a joke. I couldn’t believe this dork would step up to me like that with my reputation.

    Before long, the whole school was talking about the big fight that was going to happen after 3 in the woods behind the school. I was very unconcerned and bored with the whole matter. All these kids kept asking me about the fight all day and were in awe that I was so nonchalant. I felt embarrassed for the pussies who thought getting in a school fight was a big deal. When school ended, all these hangars on followed me to the woods where the dork was waiting with his wimpy basketball/baseball friends. In my HS, the hardcore football players were a separate click from the second rate baseball/basketball players.

    I just stood there and let him punch me in the face once. I was concerned about lawsuits from his rich family if I landed the first punch(one of my friends got sued a year or two before for breaking some retard’s jaw who wanted a fight with him). Then he started circling away with me following him for a minute or so until I stepped in with a quick combination left hook, a right that I don’t think did much and then another left hook. He fell and then I looked up and saw a cop watching us from near the school! I just turned around and walked away with a huge crowd following me. Everyone else was ecstatic — “you’re the man!” Everyone was treating me like a hero because the other guy was part of stuck up clique that a lot of people resented. I felt embarrassed to go to such a pussy high school that people would make big deal out of a fight. I had played football in a non-school league with black inner kids who got beat up everyday by gangs on their way home from school. They were tough, not me.

    Over the next few days I was showered with love from females. They were most impressed with my icy demeanor during the whole affair. Mr. Fag’s hot blonde girlfriend who had always flirted with me left him and later that year, I was in a class with her. She was flirting with me like crazy. We were talking and she started rubbing her foot against my legs under the desk. She already had another boyfriend but hooked up with me secretly anyway.

    Women love the risk takers. I remember all the nasty comments that the HOT girls — cheerleaders and models and strippers made about average guys who would even just look at them. “Bitches,” “losers” “fags.” These weren’t nerds, just average guys who did not have the killer instict/dark triad type personality. Often these comments were directed at superficially cool, well dressed guys driving nice cars and spending a lot of money when out.

    Women immediately size men up into killers and fags.

    Always ask yourself which you are being.

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    A fag remembers a stupid fist fight he got into back in grade school and posts fanfiction about it 20 years later.

    You should not be giving advice about women.
    , @Marty T
    I can't stand you, but I'd like you to keep commenting.
    , @ben tillman

    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night
     
    Why? Do you like being arrested for DUI, or do you just like getting less sleep?
    , @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Cool story, bro.
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  106. BubbaJoe says:
    @Art Deco
    No, Medred's a malicious cretin who needed to blacken McCandless' memory because that's what malicious cretins do to aggrandize themselves.

    Medred doesn’t like to see people die needlessly. The AK wild is a dangerous place, and you need to be prepared when you explore it. Many aren’t. Locals tried to help that young man- with maps, advice, food and fuel, etc. and they were rebuffed. What Medred doesn’t want is for other troubled people to follow McCandless’s example. I’ll second - Medred’s the real deal. He’s interested in facts, not a narrative.

    The whole concept of narrative journalism needs to be taken apart.

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  107. @Ivy
    Some years ago, my blue-eyed blond friend got written up by our lesbian boss for relating a story about helping one of his subordinates deal thoughtfully with a perceived harassment issue, assisted by the gay HR guy.

    He was put on report the following Monday for allowing a hostile work environment. The coven factor helped nudge him toward a better job at a competitor. Lunches and staff meetings weren't the same after that, but that bad boss later left to the relief of many.

    If you’re a competent guy, i’d recommend–sight unseen–not working for a female boss.

    But a fair minded take is to take in the situation, and see what sort of woman she is. Some women appreciate male talent and ability and will be fair minded to get the most out of them. If you reviews, raises and promotions seem reasonable. Fine.

    But if there’s any sign of anti-male bias–get out. Vote your competency\value against anti-male corporate feminization. If competent guys–who lets face it, do pretty much all the mission critical work–continually vote against being bossed around by tedious females, corporations will respond.

    I see absolutely zero reason any man should accept a lesbian boss. Put in your transfer request ASAP. Vote not just “no”, but “hell no!”

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    I stuck with it since I liked the work and the rest of the team, she needed my skill set, paid me a lot and mostly left me alone.
    , @Stealth
    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates, but watch out when some of these women are over men. A female supervisor in my chain of command behaves professionally and rationally as long as the underling she's dealing with is female. Unfortunately, she becomes an utter lunatic when she talks to male employees who report to her, even in her written communications. If you only heard her talk to women, you'd have no reason to think that she's not a very competent businesswoman and leader, but the instant she turns away from a woman to talk to a man, she becomes the female version of Mayor West from Family Guy.
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  108. MLK says:

    The reliance of the Anti-Rape Jihadis on the Holocaust is obvious, at least to me. Their terminology is nearly the same (e.g. Rape Survivors; Rape Deniers).

    Yet in the more than six decades since WWII, does anyone other than the tiny number of Holocaust Deniers claim hoaxers give ammunition to the claim the Holocaust never happened? Indeed, Holocaust scholars dedicate time and effort to exposing hoaxers, just as former military do with those who falsely claim military decoration. Nor do either have any difficulty figuring out what motivates the hoaxer.

    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/author-fake-holocaust-memoir-to-return-22m

    Why do we see the opposite mindset and behavior from anti-rape activists?

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    Why do we see the opposite mindset and behavior from anti-rape activists?
     
    The holocaust really happened.

    "Rape culture" is the sound of a million women going on the pill at the same time.

    Their hearts know they haven't been getting any love + their bodies feel pregnant = must have been some rape going on (with help identifying that funny feeling from lesbian advisers)
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  109. As someone who was on the ground where Pat Tillman was killed, Krakauer got the broad strokes right (that had already been reported on) but his details about actual details on the ground ranged from offbase to inane.

    He’s basically the guy you go to in order to package a narrative.

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  110. @Lagertha
    exactly; by consistently straying away from kayaks, valleys in Utah, bears, who is going to buy his books? My husband was a big fan of him with "Into Thin Air," and we found the book about the Mormons fascinating yet, creepy - could this have painted Romney as too creepy for Americans? ...I know, that sounds utterly ridiculous!

    It was at this point that I started to worry that K was looking to find salacious topics that would sell. I found CM and his escapades in Alaska to be the next book that seemed to me to be exploiting an obviously delusional person who I had trouble reading about since I knew he would die.

    Why Montana? Is Montana (personally, very beloved) because of its majority white (Scandinavian, Dutch & German immigrants settled there long ago) population? Does Montana somehow conjure-up some idea that bad stuff can't possibly be happening at sensible, rugged mountain towns BUT it's all a mirage, and I'm gonna write about it?

    I have gone to Grizzlies and Bobcats football games, and, yes, they are in the highest div possible for the mountain states, but it is not like going to a Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama game. You can look up all those stats at UM & MSU and it pales in comparison with student misbehavior/crime compared to the Big 10, 12, SEC or elite universities like Wesleyan.

    In fact, why didn't Krakauer write a book about Wesleyan? It is a virtual trifecta of salaciousness and crime this past year: 1. a couple of rapes (@ 2 frats) 2. student has TBI falling from a 3rd floor window last year. 3. twelve students OD on Molly...3 students get kicked out for dealing. This was national news...names are printed...names are on Middletown police logs. There was no fear of anything being made-up by anyone. So What is K's grudge or intent with tainting UM? Is he falling into that Jerry Springer mode where you just wanna find something juicy to shock people...even if it will ruin the reputation of a school? a student? Has anyone really looked at the facts since he didn't speak to anyone at UM?

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman if there was any "rape culture" at MSU, and, he said no (they knew about Missoula, their rival, being painted as a "rape culture" school) but a drunk guy had walked into a women's shower and passed-out last fall. The campus police said he was so incoherent that they suspected he did not know he was in a women's shower in a co-ed dorm.

    Why Montana?

    It might have to do with the fact that Krakauer’s last project was debunking Greg (“Three Cups of Tea”) Mortenson. Mortenson’s Central Asia Institute has its headquarters in Bozeman.

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    Yes, I guess you are right. I do know that authors can be really bitchy to each other. But MSU is the flagship U and UM is liberal arts and accepts more apps (91%) than MSU. MSU is bigger and is one of the 104 Carnegie Foundation U's and has the graduate programs...yet they are football rivals? WTF?
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  111. manton says:

    Haven’t read the book so I can’t say either way, but Stuart Taylor reviewed this in today’s WSJ. Laudatory review. Taylor co-wrote the definitive takedown of the Duke Lacrosse hoax, so I expected him to be more skeptical. He inserts a note of concern for the accused toward the end, but it felt pro-forma.

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  112. Ivy says:
    @AnotherDad
    If you're a competent guy, i'd recommend--sight unseen--not working for a female boss.

    But a fair minded take is to take in the situation, and see what sort of woman she is. Some women appreciate male talent and ability and will be fair minded to get the most out of them. If you reviews, raises and promotions seem reasonable. Fine.

    But if there's any sign of anti-male bias--get out. Vote your competency\value against anti-male corporate feminization. If competent guys--who lets face it, do pretty much all the mission critical work--continually vote against being bossed around by tedious females, corporations will respond.

    I see absolutely zero reason any man should accept a lesbian boss. Put in your transfer request ASAP. Vote not just "no", but "hell no!"

    I stuck with it since I liked the work and the rest of the team, she needed my skill set, paid me a lot and mostly left me alone.

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  113. Ivy says:
    @Lagertha
    exactly; by consistently straying away from kayaks, valleys in Utah, bears, who is going to buy his books? My husband was a big fan of him with "Into Thin Air," and we found the book about the Mormons fascinating yet, creepy - could this have painted Romney as too creepy for Americans? ...I know, that sounds utterly ridiculous!

    It was at this point that I started to worry that K was looking to find salacious topics that would sell. I found CM and his escapades in Alaska to be the next book that seemed to me to be exploiting an obviously delusional person who I had trouble reading about since I knew he would die.

    Why Montana? Is Montana (personally, very beloved) because of its majority white (Scandinavian, Dutch & German immigrants settled there long ago) population? Does Montana somehow conjure-up some idea that bad stuff can't possibly be happening at sensible, rugged mountain towns BUT it's all a mirage, and I'm gonna write about it?

    I have gone to Grizzlies and Bobcats football games, and, yes, they are in the highest div possible for the mountain states, but it is not like going to a Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama game. You can look up all those stats at UM & MSU and it pales in comparison with student misbehavior/crime compared to the Big 10, 12, SEC or elite universities like Wesleyan.

    In fact, why didn't Krakauer write a book about Wesleyan? It is a virtual trifecta of salaciousness and crime this past year: 1. a couple of rapes (@ 2 frats) 2. student has TBI falling from a 3rd floor window last year. 3. twelve students OD on Molly...3 students get kicked out for dealing. This was national news...names are printed...names are on Middletown police logs. There was no fear of anything being made-up by anyone. So What is K's grudge or intent with tainting UM? Is he falling into that Jerry Springer mode where you just wanna find something juicy to shock people...even if it will ruin the reputation of a school? a student? Has anyone really looked at the facts since he didn't speak to anyone at UM?

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman if there was any "rape culture" at MSU, and, he said no (they knew about Missoula, their rival, being painted as a "rape culture" school) but a drunk guy had walked into a women's shower and passed-out last fall. The campus police said he was so incoherent that they suspected he did not know he was in a women's shower in a co-ed dorm.

    Montana also presents an archetypal place to tug at American notions, in a sad way echoing what many felt about OKC (sad reminiscence on the 20th anniversary of that horrific event). Even the Russians liked it, at least as voiced by the person of Sam Neill playing the role of Vasily Borodin in The Hunt for Red October. He wanted to move there and raise rabbits. Maybe Tom Clancy was onto something 30 years ago when he wrote the book?

    Once the westerners are also tarred with the SJW brush then expect more retconning of cowboy history and other formative stories that will be decried as patriarchal myths to support blah blah blah.

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  115. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Why are jewish writers so obsessed with the misdeeds of white gentiles? They're obsessed with chronicling, amplifying and broadcasting them. What gives? Weird.

    By compiling a litany of alleged “misdeeds of white gentiles”, we Jews prepare the soil for eventual claims for reparations on behalf of the “victims”. Of course, we will be there as lawyers to prepare their case and earn handsome fees in the process. But ultimately, the big payoff comes when the government, incapable of coughing up the dough for reparations, must turn to us (we Jewish bankers) for loans and then we will be right back in the drivers seat, financing governments just as we financed Kings during the 18th and 19 the century. And you poor fools thought that by investing Congress with the power to raise taxes and declare war that you were thereby preventing our ever holding the purse strings again.

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  116. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jonathan Silber
    Teach Women Not to Cuddle!

    Or… http://www.cuddleparty.com/

    I can see some potential synergy between that and the new adult preschool.

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  117. Why didn’t Krakauer produce a book on former NFL All Star Darren Sharper? He recently plead guilty to multiple rapes and received a 9 year sentence. Unlike the Montana case, Sharper was a fairly prominent football player, was on a Super Bowl winner, and even had a gig at the NFL Network,

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  118. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Huh?

    From Wikipedia:

    "Krakauer was born in Brookline, Massachusetts, as the third of five children of Lewis Joseph Krakauer and Carol Ann Krakauer (née Jones). His father was Jewish and his mother was a Unitarian, of Scandinavian descent.[1][2]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Krakauer

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.

    The Scandinavian heritage makes him outdoorsy and the Jewish heritage makes him good at writing about it?

    Into Thin Air is a great read, btw, if you haven’t read it. I haven’t read any of his more recent stuff though.

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  119. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @unit472
    University of Florida football players got tired of being seen as second rate gangsters as compared to Florida State's Aaron Hernandez and Jameis Winston so they are upping their 'game'.

    http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20150420/article/150429995?p=2&tc=pg

    GAINESVILLE - The University of Florida football player accused of being part of a weekend drug-related armed robbery has refused to cooperate with investigators, and the two men who allegedly committed the crime have not been identified, Gainesville police officials said on Monday.

    Now over at the Fraternity/Haven Monahan front it would seem Haven has had a 'race' transplant.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/19/three-shot-during-campus-cookout-at-dindu-nuffin-university-ddnu/

    Speaking of Jameis Winston, he scored a 27 on his Wonderlic test — and you shouldn’t be surprised by that, says Fox Sports.

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  120. Stealth says:
    @AnotherDad
    If you're a competent guy, i'd recommend--sight unseen--not working for a female boss.

    But a fair minded take is to take in the situation, and see what sort of woman she is. Some women appreciate male talent and ability and will be fair minded to get the most out of them. If you reviews, raises and promotions seem reasonable. Fine.

    But if there's any sign of anti-male bias--get out. Vote your competency\value against anti-male corporate feminization. If competent guys--who lets face it, do pretty much all the mission critical work--continually vote against being bossed around by tedious females, corporations will respond.

    I see absolutely zero reason any man should accept a lesbian boss. Put in your transfer request ASAP. Vote not just "no", but "hell no!"

    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates, but watch out when some of these women are over men. A female supervisor in my chain of command behaves professionally and rationally as long as the underling she’s dealing with is female. Unfortunately, she becomes an utter lunatic when she talks to male employees who report to her, even in her written communications. If you only heard her talk to women, you’d have no reason to think that she’s not a very competent businesswoman and leader, but the instant she turns away from a woman to talk to a man, she becomes the female version of Mayor West from Family Guy.

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    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates
     
    LOL! Women hate hate hate working for other women.
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  121. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @slumber_j
    See, I don't remember Into the Wild as a hagiography at all. From what I remember, Krakauer portrays his subject as a maddeningly mixed-up, self-regarding kid who used people up and ended his days in a haze of delusion and incompetence. The expression "Alexander Supertramp" comes to mind...

    It's been many years since I read the book, so maybe that's all wrong. But it's always seemed to me that the people who bizarrely revere McCandless have completely failed to understand the book.

    IIRC, Sean Penn romanticized McCandles a bit more in his movie version.

    The weirdest thing about the whole thing to me is that there is now an academic field of study devoted to McCandles (e.g., http://cen.acs.org/articles/91/i43/Chemists-Dispute-WildProtagonist-Chris-McCandless.html ).

    It reminds me of Stanislaw Lem’s protagonist’s review of the academic literature on “Solaristics” at the beginning of Solaris.

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    No, not a field of study, just some papers on the question. And the article you link to is in Chemical and Engineering News which has the fare its title implies, not original research.
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  122. Krakauer wrote a best seller a few years ago about Pat Tillman, the pro football player who joined the army and was killed in Afghanistan by “friendly fire.”

    An oddity was Krakauer’s complete lack of interest in how Tillman and his football teammates got along. Jake Plummer seems to have been the only teammate Tillman was close to.

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  123. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Svigor

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here.
     
    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is "fixated," but you accusing "everyone else around here" of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    That aside, it's cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.
     
    It kinda does, doesn't it? Jews hate nature and the outdoors, but they control journalism so they get an easy "in," Scandinavians love nature and the outdoors but they don't have that journalistic "in" like Jews do. I wonder if he sometimes gets creeped out while he's out in the middle of nowhere and has to hop in his car and drive until he's surrounded on all sides by diverse crowds and unbroken pavement. Only to be lured back out again by the call of the wild...

    Jews hate nature and the outdoors

    Except for golf courses and beaches, as Tom Wolfe noted in I Am Charlotte Simmons.

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  124. @MLK
    The reliance of the Anti-Rape Jihadis on the Holocaust is obvious, at least to me. Their terminology is nearly the same (e.g. Rape Survivors; Rape Deniers).

    Yet in the more than six decades since WWII, does anyone other than the tiny number of Holocaust Deniers claim hoaxers give ammunition to the claim the Holocaust never happened? Indeed, Holocaust scholars dedicate time and effort to exposing hoaxers, just as former military do with those who falsely claim military decoration. Nor do either have any difficulty figuring out what motivates the hoaxer.

    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/author-fake-holocaust-memoir-to-return-22m

    Why do we see the opposite mindset and behavior from anti-rape activists?

    Why do we see the opposite mindset and behavior from anti-rape activists?

    The holocaust really happened.

    “Rape culture” is the sound of a million women going on the pill at the same time.

    Their hearts know they haven’t been getting any love + their bodies feel pregnant = must have been some rape going on (with help identifying that funny feeling from lesbian advisers)

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  125. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anon

    but not all of the evils of the world are brought about by melanin-lackers.
     
    leaving aside your freudian slip not a single person post has said *all* rape cases were committed by non-whites because that would obviously not be true.

    the point is the disproportion in the media goes in the exact opposite direction to the disproportion in reality which highlights the media's anti-white racism.

    the point is the disproportion in the media goes in the exact opposite direction to the disproportion in reality which highlights the media’s anti-white racism.

    Or it could simply be that the routine isn’t news, whereas the unusual is. Black guy rapes anyone = routine and depressing. White guy rapes anyone = man bites dog. That SJW’s clamber on to make a case for white man’s inhumanity to woman, Gaia or the cause of the moment is just the usual political opportunism. It’s the equivalent of the NYT railing against guns after a mass shooting.

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    Or it could simply be that the routine isn’t news, whereas the unusual is. Black guy rapes anyone = routine and depressing. White guy rapes anyone = man bites dog.
     
    The problem with this theory is that the man-bites-dog cases are presented as dog-bites-man stories. They are used to propagate the ideas that the exception is actually the rule and that Whites are collectively guilty for such supposedly pervasive aggression against non-Whites.
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  126. carol says:

    UM football and B ball have plenty of black players, several of whom were busted for home invasion, drug selling, murder etc. UM was a little late to the party in recruiting JC thugs from the south to *intimidate* their opponents. Sadly, we end up with the runts of the litter, and none too smart at that.

    I assumed all the mystery around the various investigations meant the perps were black. Guess I hang around iSteve too much.

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    "UM was a little late to the party in recruiting JC thugs from the south to *intimidate* their opponents."

    Not so much. The Swarthout teams of '69 and '70 had plenty of JC kids from California - also Hawaiians. Often in trouble downtown.
    , @Marty
    I was actually in a holding cell in California with a smallish U.M footballer in '07. The system erroneously had me with a failure to appear on a traffic citation. He had just transfered to an Arizona school. He spent most of our time together on the phone, telling somebody which gun to sell to raise bail. He asked me, "what'd you do, domestic abuse?"
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  127. @OhComeOn
    This means you two are out of sync and shouldn't be together to begin with.

    I'm a girl.

    Relationships are pretty easy. It either works or it doesn't.

    Yeah, god forbid a woman would actually put in any effort understanding how a particular man works.

    The way I work is that if you tell me that you’re not interested in sex, for now, I take your word for it and I act accordingly. It’s not very difficult for me. If you are in fact interested in sex soon, don’t send mixed signals to me because, for me, mixed signals = “no”.

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  129. ren says:

    FWIW

    Krakauer means resident of Krakow, Poland

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  130. @Truth
    Responding to your own posts now Stanley? Oh well, I guess it's a good way to have an agreeable conversation.

    Anyway;

    Uh oh; Part XXVI:

    One hell of an uncomfortable van ride...
    '
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/few-details-about-police-encounter-that-led-to-mans-death/ar-AAblSv2?ocid=ansnewsap11

    Truth,

    How come the guys marching with power fists in the AP photo look like the AfAm equivalent of the white guys rallying for the property rights of “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro”, Cliven Bundy?

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    Great minds think alike.
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  131. Rob McX says:

    One reason for the lack of interest in blacks raping whites is that liberals genuinely don’t expect blacks to behave any better. Dog bites man story.

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  132. @Lagertha
    exactly; by consistently straying away from kayaks, valleys in Utah, bears, who is going to buy his books? My husband was a big fan of him with "Into Thin Air," and we found the book about the Mormons fascinating yet, creepy - could this have painted Romney as too creepy for Americans? ...I know, that sounds utterly ridiculous!

    It was at this point that I started to worry that K was looking to find salacious topics that would sell. I found CM and his escapades in Alaska to be the next book that seemed to me to be exploiting an obviously delusional person who I had trouble reading about since I knew he would die.

    Why Montana? Is Montana (personally, very beloved) because of its majority white (Scandinavian, Dutch & German immigrants settled there long ago) population? Does Montana somehow conjure-up some idea that bad stuff can't possibly be happening at sensible, rugged mountain towns BUT it's all a mirage, and I'm gonna write about it?

    I have gone to Grizzlies and Bobcats football games, and, yes, they are in the highest div possible for the mountain states, but it is not like going to a Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama game. You can look up all those stats at UM & MSU and it pales in comparison with student misbehavior/crime compared to the Big 10, 12, SEC or elite universities like Wesleyan.

    In fact, why didn't Krakauer write a book about Wesleyan? It is a virtual trifecta of salaciousness and crime this past year: 1. a couple of rapes (@ 2 frats) 2. student has TBI falling from a 3rd floor window last year. 3. twelve students OD on Molly...3 students get kicked out for dealing. This was national news...names are printed...names are on Middletown police logs. There was no fear of anything being made-up by anyone. So What is K's grudge or intent with tainting UM? Is he falling into that Jerry Springer mode where you just wanna find something juicy to shock people...even if it will ruin the reputation of a school? a student? Has anyone really looked at the facts since he didn't speak to anyone at UM?

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman if there was any "rape culture" at MSU, and, he said no (they knew about Missoula, their rival, being painted as a "rape culture" school) but a drunk guy had walked into a women's shower and passed-out last fall. The campus police said he was so incoherent that they suspected he did not know he was in a women's shower in a co-ed dorm.

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman…

    Just out of curiosity, why is there a film school at this institution? Or, even less explicably, at Southern Illinois?

    Has anything of interest come from either place?

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    I would say, not yet. But, the MSU astro-physicist professor just won the biggest award in the field in the world. Look it up.

    MSU and SIU are part of a group of state U's that have noticed a need/niche/opportunity in education. As more foreign students are entering US u's, but not enough spots are open up in freshmen classes (elite U's specifically,) state U's have seen a chance to expand and attract excellent students who can't afford private tuition or can't get into private elites.

    Excellent students are applying like crazy to MSU and SIU...because they will have NO loans. Think about it. Plus, after UCSB, Pepperdine, alright, Williams, I can't think of another campus (you must like winter) as beautiful and safe as MSU. Safety is a highly regarded variable now for parents all over the world.

    Expanding the liberal arts department by specifically looking at the visual arts offerings, and combining computer science (gaming, graphics, animation, digital music production, visual and sound media), for that matter, was discovered by astute administrators and wild-ass professors about 20 years ago. So, state U's that offer ALL the other majors, even the expensive ones like engineering, are investing in the biggest American export: entertainment - the one that can't be outsourced! Film schools and media schools are like mushrooms in the rain at state U's. MT has the added benefit of receiving taxes and gifts from millionaires and billionaires who live there and love its natural beauty. It is incredibly beautiful...and everyone leaves you alone. What's not to love?
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  133. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    IIRC, Sean Penn romanticized McCandles a bit more in his movie version.

    The weirdest thing about the whole thing to me is that there is now an academic field of study devoted to McCandles (e.g., http://cen.acs.org/articles/91/i43/Chemists-Dispute-WildProtagonist-Chris-McCandless.html ).

    It reminds me of Stanislaw Lem's protagonist's review of the academic literature on "Solaristics" at the beginning of Solaris.

    No, not a field of study, just some papers on the question. And the article you link to is in Chemical and Engineering News which has the fare its title implies, not original research.

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    Here's a site with original papers on McCandless: http://www.christophermccandless.info/intothewildessay.html
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  134. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco
    1. Almost no Jews outside the Orthodox subculture have families that large, nor did they in 1954. Read Joseph Epstein on the bog standard family configuration in his old neighborhood in Chicago: two children born about six years apart.

    2. Had his father wanted his children to have a Jewish upbringing, marrying a gentile and leaving a Boston suburb with a large Jewish population for a town in Oregon with few Jews is unclear on the concept.

    Almost none and none are two different things. Large (1/2) Jewish non-Orthodox families are rare but apparently Krakauer grew up in one. Such families are rare but they are not physical impossibilities by any stretch. In the ’50s three kids was a very common family size so this is only 2 more. Six years is a lot. Having been born in the ’50s, a lot of my (Jewish) friends & cousins were more like 2 or 3 years apart. And women married much younger then – early 20′s or even late teens. Plenty of time to have 5 kids even 3 yrs apart.

    No one said that Krakauer had a Jewish upbringing, just that he was genetically 1/2 Jewish. It sounds like his father wanted to get as far away from Judaism as possible (having 5 kids at a time when most secular Jews didn’t could have been part of that). As Steve said, he had kind of ideal genetics and background for an outdoor writer – high intelligence and verbal skills from his Jewish side plus an outdoorsy upbringing and Scandinavian genes on his maternal side.

    Do you dispute the accuracy of the Wikipedia biography?

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    I had no idea that our guardian of good taste ArtDeco adhered to the halachic definition of who is a jew. Soon he will be telling us that trotsky wasn't a jew because he was an atheist.
    , @Art Deco
    The median age at first marriage for women in 1956 was just shy of 21. Three or four children was about normal. Five was atypical, especially among non-Catholic non-agrarian families. He grew up in a town in Oregon which as we speak has a single synagogue, operating out of a private home (and founded in 1979). At the time his parents were married, inter-marriage was quite atypical among Jews.

    I don't know why you all keep flogging this, except that this site is shot through with DNA obsessives and Jew obsessives. This argument started with the assertion of Gary Googler that this is another episode of Jews beating up on gentiles (which statement is another episode in one of the poisonous memes which populate this place). Krakauer isn't some Upper West Side denizen; his connection to American Jewry is evanescent, and it did not stop him from detonating a journalistic IED near David Oliver Relin (whose family was suburban Jewish in a very uncomplicated way, if that interests anyone).
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  135. ogunsiron says:
    @Jack D
    Almost none and none are two different things. Large (1/2) Jewish non-Orthodox families are rare but apparently Krakauer grew up in one. Such families are rare but they are not physical impossibilities by any stretch. In the '50s three kids was a very common family size so this is only 2 more. Six years is a lot. Having been born in the '50s, a lot of my (Jewish) friends & cousins were more like 2 or 3 years apart. And women married much younger then - early 20's or even late teens. Plenty of time to have 5 kids even 3 yrs apart.

    No one said that Krakauer had a Jewish upbringing, just that he was genetically 1/2 Jewish. It sounds like his father wanted to get as far away from Judaism as possible (having 5 kids at a time when most secular Jews didn't could have been part of that). As Steve said, he had kind of ideal genetics and background for an outdoor writer - high intelligence and verbal skills from his Jewish side plus an outdoorsy upbringing and Scandinavian genes on his maternal side.

    Do you dispute the accuracy of the Wikipedia biography?

    I had no idea that our guardian of good taste ArtDeco adhered to the halachic definition of who is a jew. Soon he will be telling us that trotsky wasn’t a jew because he was an atheist.

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  136. Rob McX says:
    @Priss Factor
    I have an idea for a 'Gay marriage' and Pizzeria Compromise.

    Okay, all pizzerias have to accept 'gay marriage' as real marriage and service 'gay weddings'.

    But pizzerias should have the right to serve fake plastic pizzas to 'gay weddings', and
    homos must accept plastic pizzas as real pizzas in the name of 'pizza equality'.

    If 'gay wedding' is a real wedding, then surely plastic pizza is real pizza.
    And as plastic pizzas should be officially recognized as real pizzas, pizzerias should have the right to serve them to 'gay weddings' to celebrate two kinds of 'equality': "marriage equality" and "pizza equality".

    Excellent!

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  137. Twinkie says:

    Forget the (very pretty) town of Missoula, and get your stones ready for Ben Affleck: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ben-affleck-apologizes-requesting-pbs-790652

    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.

    I am informed by family history and lore that my ancestors owned many slaves/serfs during pre-modern times. But apparently all these serfs were Asian, so it doesn’t count (in any case, if anyone throws stones at me, I will open fire in legitimate self-defense, so don’t do it). And in any case, I am ethnically Asian, so it doubly doesn’t count (if you owned people of your own race, all is forgiven – just ask the slave-owning free black population and its descendants in America).

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    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.
     
    At ten generations, you have 1,024 ancestral slots, at twelve, 4,096. It's almost impossible for an American (or Canadian) of colonial stock not to have slaveowners in his ancestry.

    Everyone in the West descends from Charlemagne and likely Mohammed as well. Almost one in ten Americans is Mayflower.
    , @James Kabala
    Of course it's because he himself believes the former (that slave-owning ancestors are shameful to have) that he tried to do the latter (cover it up). I don't think anyone actually cares about the slave owner ancestor (since many other celebrities on these programs have had them), but he thought they would, and I think it is actually the people who understand the facts who care about his trying to create a fake pristine ancestry.
    , @Truth
    Might count in Korea, but we don't live there.
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  138. @Stan D Mute

    The Amish do bundling, using a board or bags.
     
    Don't Mormons have some magic underwear that prohibits wickedness?

    Don’t Mormons have some magic underwear that prohibits wickedness?

    Magic? They look pretty effective.

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  139. @Twinkie
    Forget the (very pretty) town of Missoula, and get your stones ready for Ben Affleck: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ben-affleck-apologizes-requesting-pbs-790652

    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.

    I am informed by family history and lore that my ancestors owned many slaves/serfs during pre-modern times. But apparently all these serfs were Asian, so it doesn't count (in any case, if anyone throws stones at me, I will open fire in legitimate self-defense, so don't do it). And in any case, I am ethnically Asian, so it doubly doesn't count (if you owned people of your own race, all is forgiven - just ask the slave-owning free black population and its descendants in America).

    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.

    At ten generations, you have 1,024 ancestral slots, at twelve, 4,096. It’s almost impossible for an American (or Canadian) of colonial stock not to have slaveowners in his ancestry.

    Everyone in the West descends from Charlemagne and likely Mohammed as well. Almost one in ten Americans is Mayflower.

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    At ten generations, you have 1,024 ancestral slots, at twelve, 4,096.
     
    Some of those slots are shared, however.

    Almost one in ten Americans is Mayflower.
     
    I once lived in a town in which seemingly 90% of the population traced its ancestry to the Mayflower. The town was 99% white.
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  140. Marty T says:
    @Steve Sailer
    21 is about 100, so 27 is smart-enough-to-know-better range.

    The interesting thing about Jameis Winston is that from most reports, he is intelligent, very good high school student and all. So it’s possible he can move past his obvious bad judgment in the past.

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  141. Lagertha says:
    @Big Bill
    Why do I think that "bruises" on her neck really means "hickeys"?

    I remember catching hell in junior high school when my female "bruising victim" didn't discover her "bruises" until the mean girls laughingly pointed them out the next day in study hall (and started gossiping about how easy she was). She saved face by slapping me in the lunch room.

    Thank goodness girls weren't claiming rape back then to save face. I might have wound up in prison.

    I know. Just a few years ago I saw bruises on my sons’ necks (both in college these days) and I was alarmed. But, I suddenly remembered: having been raised on the east coast (my parents were emigres from Scandinavia) and, trying to fit-in (we moved a few times in the USA) with a new group of girls in 7th grade, I pretended I knew what hickeys were – they’re still very disgusting and stupid, btw! I always thought about the piranhas in Brazil.

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  142. Lagertha says:
    @Lackawanna
    Why name the book like that? I could imagine problems coming up from naming a book about some scandal after the place where it happened if that place had certain connotations, like "Harlem" or "Lakewood."

    So I'm gonna call this one punching up. Hanging collective responsibility on a whole community is something a savvy writer like Krakauer would do only if he felt confident in his assessment that Missoula is a safe target -- that other powerful people will see it that way too.

    Missoula is on the top ten list of towns to retire to. Virtually, all of Montana is now the place to retire to (but please don’t move there!) – there are actually T-shirts, so not kidding, that say that! Plus, if you wanna off yourself in Montana, well, you can! This is why I love MT: if I want to die, I can get it done without it being messy for my family.

    The SV companies have and are, adding satellites in Missoula, Bozeman, Billings (not as pretty), Boise ID, Salt Lake UT, Park City UT…so, it is freaking some people out.

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    Missoula is on the top ten list of towns to retire to. Virtually, all of Montana is now the place to retire to
     
    Not quite. Missoula and some of the other towns you mentioned are now popular with the "hip" crowd, but the rest of the sparsely populated MT is still not considered desirable places by the SWPL crowd, because it lacks the typical SWPL amenities that college towns provide (it's like the difference between Laramie and Gillette, WY - both are the only two towns in WY with about 30,000 people, but one is a college town and the other is not; the not town has trouble attracting professionals). And frankly most elderly still prefer a warmer climate. So MT gets a specific retiree demographic, let's say, "artsy" types, compared to FL.

    The SV companies have and are, adding satellites in Missoula, Bozeman, Billings
     
    One of those towns, along with Detroit, used to be the dumping ground for a certain federal agency's troubled "children." When I heard that, I said, "If I ever become a 'troublesome child,' may I please go to MT instead of MI?" My boss at the time said, "Oh, no, Twinkie, that wouldn't be punishment for you. If you [insert four-letter word] up, I am going to make sure, personally, you go to Detroit."
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  143. @Twinkie
    Forget the (very pretty) town of Missoula, and get your stones ready for Ben Affleck: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ben-affleck-apologizes-requesting-pbs-790652

    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.

    I am informed by family history and lore that my ancestors owned many slaves/serfs during pre-modern times. But apparently all these serfs were Asian, so it doesn't count (in any case, if anyone throws stones at me, I will open fire in legitimate self-defense, so don't do it). And in any case, I am ethnically Asian, so it doubly doesn't count (if you owned people of your own race, all is forgiven - just ask the slave-owning free black population and its descendants in America).

    Of course it’s because he himself believes the former (that slave-owning ancestors are shameful to have) that he tried to do the latter (cover it up). I don’t think anyone actually cares about the slave owner ancestor (since many other celebrities on these programs have had them), but he thought they would, and I think it is actually the people who understand the facts who care about his trying to create a fake pristine ancestry.

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  144. @carol
    UM football and B ball have plenty of black players, several of whom were busted for home invasion, drug selling, murder etc. UM was a little late to the party in recruiting JC thugs from the south to *intimidate* their opponents. Sadly, we end up with the runts of the litter, and none too smart at that.

    I assumed all the mystery around the various investigations meant the perps were black. Guess I hang around iSteve too much.

    “UM was a little late to the party in recruiting JC thugs from the south to *intimidate* their opponents.”

    Not so much. The Swarthout teams of ’69 and ’70 had plenty of JC kids from California – also Hawaiians. Often in trouble downtown.

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    Hawaiian? Don't you mean Samoan?

    They did make good bouncers.
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  145. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous
    Doesn't this 1976 classic from Benjamin Stein seem pretty much on point here with regard to Missoula?

    http://www.nationalaffairs.com/doclib/20080527_197604402whateverhappenedtosmalltownamericabenjaminstein.pdf

    "Now hardened television watchers know for sure that they are about to see one of the few formula scenarios of the movies and television today-the nightmare descent of the innocent city dweller into the incomprehensibly wicked and evil depths of the countryside."

    "This characterization of the small town as evil and threatening to innocent city dwellers is now a staple of contemporary American mass culture. But the small town wasn't always seen that way. Over a relatively brief time, cultural attitudes towards small towns have changed virtually 180 degrees, from the old view of the small town as the bastion of everything good about America to the current view of the small town as everything frightening and corrupt about America. The change has been so complete that when we see a ves- tige of the old view appear, we are startled.
    Yet last summer, when New York City was having such severe fiscal troubles, the old view surfaced. In a column in The Wall Street lournal, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., said that President Ford's reluctance to help New York could be explained entirely by the tra- ditional American antipathy towards the big city, and love for the small town. (Professor Schlesinger has obviously not been watching enough television.)"

    I understand your post, but small towns are now very appealing again (while I am living in the Tri-State area; east coast). And, college towns like Missoula, are in the Forbes top 20 to retire to. And, SV buying up property/setting up cubicles in cute old grain depots all over the Rocky Mountain range….so NOT complaining about that – my sons will be closer when I am 80.

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  146. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous
    I've shared a bed with a chick before. She was quite good looking, too. I considered it a favor. It was one of those uncomfortable hotel situations. There were two men and two women. I dislike the idea of sharing a hotel bed with another guy as much as I dislike community showers.

    And this was somewhat off-topic and didn't contribute to the conversation at all.

    next time, make your co. pay for your own room or, if they are cheapskates: a suite with a pull-out sofabed. I did that all the time when doing “travel” soccer, wrestling, fencing, rugby with my sons. There was no way in hell they wanted to share a king with mom.

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  147. @Lackawanna
    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night(that's after many attempts to remove her clothes have failed), don't tell her any stuff like "it's okay, I understand" just "I gotta go" and then leave suddenly so she gets the message. Don't act angry, but act like you have already forgotten about her as you are leaving, you want her to think you are just going to some other girl's bed that night.

    Next time you hang out alone with her, sex will almost certainly happen. She was already close if you got her in that situation, but she was testing you to see if you were the kind of pathetic loser who would lay in bed all night without sex. I can't believe any man would actually waste their night laying in bed with a girl after being rejected like that. Seriously, don't you have thrills to seek? I just wanted to get the f--- out of their as soon as I realized I wasn't getting any. I just can't imagine what it would be like to be the kind of man who would stay. Would rather sleep in my own bed at the end of the night either way.

    IMO, girls who pull those kinds of stunts are not sexually confident in themselves and are not really worth much. You are not going have great sex with someone so immature and neurotic.



    I find all these game discussion on alt right websites hilarious because I was a jock/juvenile delinquent as a teenager. I was the guy who went through puberty early, who got in lots of fights and won all the fights that that I had with boys from school. Funny to read all the angst over jerks and badboys. If you can't beat em join em. It was fun as hell. If I could live my life again I would be even worse.

    One of my most memorable moments was when I locked some guy I didn't like's book bag in his locker or something like that(maybe I locked his bag in someone else's locker?) and this big rich kid basketball player said something to me like "leave him alone." I told him something like "shut up fag" and then a teacher came and made us all go to class. I didn't think a damn thing of it until some kids in one of my classes told me the dude was mad that I called him a "fag" and wanted to fight me.

    I was surprised this dude would want to fight me. Maybe he though being a lot taller would help him. I had already beaten up older and bigger kids. I'm very athletic, well coordinated and good at fighting so that for me to fight a non fighting sport trained boy like this one was a joke. I couldn't believe this dork would step up to me like that with my reputation.

    Before long, the whole school was talking about the big fight that was going to happen after 3 in the woods behind the school. I was very unconcerned and bored with the whole matter. All these kids kept asking me about the fight all day and were in awe that I was so nonchalant. I felt embarrassed for the pussies who thought getting in a school fight was a big deal. When school ended, all these hangars on followed me to the woods where the dork was waiting with his wimpy basketball/baseball friends. In my HS, the hardcore football players were a separate click from the second rate baseball/basketball players.

    I just stood there and let him punch me in the face once. I was concerned about lawsuits from his rich family if I landed the first punch(one of my friends got sued a year or two before for breaking some retard's jaw who wanted a fight with him). Then he started circling away with me following him for a minute or so until I stepped in with a quick combination left hook, a right that I don't think did much and then another left hook. He fell and then I looked up and saw a cop watching us from near the school! I just turned around and walked away with a huge crowd following me. Everyone else was ecstatic -- "you're the man!" Everyone was treating me like a hero because the other guy was part of stuck up clique that a lot of people resented. I felt embarrassed to go to such a pussy high school that people would make big deal out of a fight. I had played football in a non-school league with black inner kids who got beat up everyday by gangs on their way home from school. They were tough, not me.

    Over the next few days I was showered with love from females. They were most impressed with my icy demeanor during the whole affair. Mr. Fag's hot blonde girlfriend who had always flirted with me left him and later that year, I was in a class with her. She was flirting with me like crazy. We were talking and she started rubbing her foot against my legs under the desk. She already had another boyfriend but hooked up with me secretly anyway.

    Women love the risk takers. I remember all the nasty comments that the HOT girls -- cheerleaders and models and strippers made about average guys who would even just look at them. "Bitches," "losers" "fags." These weren't nerds, just average guys who did not have the killer instict/dark triad type personality. Often these comments were directed at superficially cool, well dressed guys driving nice cars and spending a lot of money when out.

    Women immediately size men up into killers and fags.

    Always ask yourself which you are being.

    A fag remembers a stupid fist fight he got into back in grade school and posts fanfiction about it 20 years later.

    You should not be giving advice about women.

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  148. @anonymous

    Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.
     
    But they must know, they can't be that blind except on purpose. Yet a large percentage of women just love love love those male gays even though there's no telling how many minutes ago it's been since that tongue of theirs was licking another man's rear end. I've asked a couple women here and there what the attraction was and never could get a straight answer. I wasn't sure if they were the sort of people who typically lie and stall until they know what the right answer is supposed to be or if they themselves had no capacity for insight.

    I’ve asked a couple women here and there what the attraction was and never could get a straight answer.

    Heh.

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  149. OsRazor says:
    @Truth

    The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning
     
    Did Huggy Bear give you that info,or was it all of those years you lived in the ghetto?

    “Did Huggy Bear give you that info,or was it all of those years you lived in the ghetto?”

    CDC numbers on venereal diseases for black teenagers, black teenager rates of HIV, black teen pregnancies. Following any number of websites which link to black dysfunction, usually reported locally and never nationally. Black rap music. Volumes and volumes of black literature spanning decades.

    It doesn’t take much effort to discern that black sexual predation of its own teenagers is pretty much the norm.

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  150. @Svigor

    Your votary Gary Googler is fixated on Krakauer being Jewish, just like everyone else around here.
     
    So, the guy who mentioned one guy once is "fixated," but you accusing "everyone else around here" of being fixated on accusing Jews is, well, perfectly healthy.

    That aside, it's cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    That sounds like about the optimal background for a highly successful outdoors journalist.
     
    It kinda does, doesn't it? Jews hate nature and the outdoors, but they control journalism so they get an easy "in," Scandinavians love nature and the outdoors but they don't have that journalistic "in" like Jews do. I wonder if he sometimes gets creeped out while he's out in the middle of nowhere and has to hop in his car and drive until he's surrounded on all sides by diverse crowds and unbroken pavement. Only to be lured back out again by the call of the wild...

    That aside, it’s cute when Jews hang around sites dedicated to people who like noticing, and then complain (only) when Jews are noticed.

    Ahh, careful there pal, you’re going to get busted noticing again.

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  151. Mike says: • Website
    @Art Deco
    http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/how-chris-mccandless-died

    Chris McCandless starved to death. He didn’t accidentally poison himself.

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    You're mistaking Krakauer's thesis. He starved to death because he was no longer more than minimally ambulatory and could not hike out or do more than minimal local foraging. Krakauer's thesis is that he ate wild potato which contains a neurotoxin. The body can ordinarily tolerate the neurotoxin, which is why guidebooks list the wild potato as edible; it's Krakauer's thesis that McCandless' low caloric intake over several months had rendered him vulnerable to the neurotoxin.
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  152. OsRazor says:
    @anonymous

    Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.
     
    But they must know, they can't be that blind except on purpose. Yet a large percentage of women just love love love those male gays even though there's no telling how many minutes ago it's been since that tongue of theirs was licking another man's rear end. I've asked a couple women here and there what the attraction was and never could get a straight answer. I wasn't sure if they were the sort of people who typically lie and stall until they know what the right answer is supposed to be or if they themselves had no capacity for insight.

    “But they must know, they can’t be that blind except on purpose.”

    I honestly think most White women see gays as asexual creatures, the perfect companion. The fact that gays are the MOST sexual demographic by multiples of 10 or so in terms of number of partners and risky acts just doesn’t enter the picture for most White women. Certainly the media has done everything to convince White women that gays are much more monogamous and loving than heterosexuals and it just doesn’t delve into the absolute filth of gay sexual practices ever.

    In 99.999% of heterosexual White males, take their most ridiculous fantasies–being with two women at the same time, being able to just have sex with that hot chick waiting on your table at the restaurant or taking your blood pressure at the doctor’s office–any fantasy or fetish imagined, such will remain unrealized forever and are left behind when the straight guy enters his 40s or so.

    Not so with gays, whatever they fantasize can be realized and is realized. A lot. Over and over. Their whole world is living out their sexual fantasies on a daily basis. It is their point of being alive.

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  153. Lagertha says:
    @Reginald Maplethorp
    Steve pointed out a long time ago that the top colleges for per-capita sexual assault per year were small elite liberal arts schools: http://www.unz.com/isteve/defining-deviancy-up/ .

    While large state schools definitely host more brutes, especially because of large athletic programs, it's interesting to see the lack of focus on the actual "problem" schools as indicated by data. It's also interesting that tech schools, which typically have a male:female ratio of about 2:1, don't break the top 50. One would think that in such patriarchal environments, there would be a terrible, awful rape culture!

    As I said earlier: Wesleyan, Yale, Connecticut College, etc… Wesleyan has the trifecta of incidents…and most lawsuits against it, right now, of all U’s in the USA. So, yeah, University of Montana is just being shafted, big time, by Krakauer with his book that he nervously expedited to print knowing what I just stated. Who is gonna buy this book? Who would read it for enlightenment, pleasure, strength?

    And, I can assure you, U of Montana is not a bastion of the privileged, wealthy, white students. In fact, both UM and MSU are proud to say that 3-5% of their students are native Americans; most students are middle class and have loans; 5% foreign students; 5% URM’s, and 5% athletes on scholarship (weirdly, the footballers are from Polynesia) – look it up – Montana is a cold state…one of the reasons one of my sons is in Texas for college.

    I am a graduate of an east coast elite university, and I am a 6th generation university graduate, and it makes me sick that someone would try to disparage a state university for personal profit.

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  154. Twinkie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.
     
    At ten generations, you have 1,024 ancestral slots, at twelve, 4,096. It's almost impossible for an American (or Canadian) of colonial stock not to have slaveowners in his ancestry.

    Everyone in the West descends from Charlemagne and likely Mohammed as well. Almost one in ten Americans is Mayflower.

    At ten generations, you have 1,024 ancestral slots, at twelve, 4,096.

    Some of those slots are shared, however.

    Almost one in ten Americans is Mayflower.

    I once lived in a town in which seemingly 90% of the population traced its ancestry to the Mayflower. The town was 99% white.

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  155. Marty T says:
    @Lackawanna
    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night(that's after many attempts to remove her clothes have failed), don't tell her any stuff like "it's okay, I understand" just "I gotta go" and then leave suddenly so she gets the message. Don't act angry, but act like you have already forgotten about her as you are leaving, you want her to think you are just going to some other girl's bed that night.

    Next time you hang out alone with her, sex will almost certainly happen. She was already close if you got her in that situation, but she was testing you to see if you were the kind of pathetic loser who would lay in bed all night without sex. I can't believe any man would actually waste their night laying in bed with a girl after being rejected like that. Seriously, don't you have thrills to seek? I just wanted to get the f--- out of their as soon as I realized I wasn't getting any. I just can't imagine what it would be like to be the kind of man who would stay. Would rather sleep in my own bed at the end of the night either way.

    IMO, girls who pull those kinds of stunts are not sexually confident in themselves and are not really worth much. You are not going have great sex with someone so immature and neurotic.



    I find all these game discussion on alt right websites hilarious because I was a jock/juvenile delinquent as a teenager. I was the guy who went through puberty early, who got in lots of fights and won all the fights that that I had with boys from school. Funny to read all the angst over jerks and badboys. If you can't beat em join em. It was fun as hell. If I could live my life again I would be even worse.

    One of my most memorable moments was when I locked some guy I didn't like's book bag in his locker or something like that(maybe I locked his bag in someone else's locker?) and this big rich kid basketball player said something to me like "leave him alone." I told him something like "shut up fag" and then a teacher came and made us all go to class. I didn't think a damn thing of it until some kids in one of my classes told me the dude was mad that I called him a "fag" and wanted to fight me.

    I was surprised this dude would want to fight me. Maybe he though being a lot taller would help him. I had already beaten up older and bigger kids. I'm very athletic, well coordinated and good at fighting so that for me to fight a non fighting sport trained boy like this one was a joke. I couldn't believe this dork would step up to me like that with my reputation.

    Before long, the whole school was talking about the big fight that was going to happen after 3 in the woods behind the school. I was very unconcerned and bored with the whole matter. All these kids kept asking me about the fight all day and were in awe that I was so nonchalant. I felt embarrassed for the pussies who thought getting in a school fight was a big deal. When school ended, all these hangars on followed me to the woods where the dork was waiting with his wimpy basketball/baseball friends. In my HS, the hardcore football players were a separate click from the second rate baseball/basketball players.

    I just stood there and let him punch me in the face once. I was concerned about lawsuits from his rich family if I landed the first punch(one of my friends got sued a year or two before for breaking some retard's jaw who wanted a fight with him). Then he started circling away with me following him for a minute or so until I stepped in with a quick combination left hook, a right that I don't think did much and then another left hook. He fell and then I looked up and saw a cop watching us from near the school! I just turned around and walked away with a huge crowd following me. Everyone else was ecstatic -- "you're the man!" Everyone was treating me like a hero because the other guy was part of stuck up clique that a lot of people resented. I felt embarrassed to go to such a pussy high school that people would make big deal out of a fight. I had played football in a non-school league with black inner kids who got beat up everyday by gangs on their way home from school. They were tough, not me.

    Over the next few days I was showered with love from females. They were most impressed with my icy demeanor during the whole affair. Mr. Fag's hot blonde girlfriend who had always flirted with me left him and later that year, I was in a class with her. She was flirting with me like crazy. We were talking and she started rubbing her foot against my legs under the desk. She already had another boyfriend but hooked up with me secretly anyway.

    Women love the risk takers. I remember all the nasty comments that the HOT girls -- cheerleaders and models and strippers made about average guys who would even just look at them. "Bitches," "losers" "fags." These weren't nerds, just average guys who did not have the killer instict/dark triad type personality. Often these comments were directed at superficially cool, well dressed guys driving nice cars and spending a lot of money when out.

    Women immediately size men up into killers and fags.

    Always ask yourself which you are being.

    I can’t stand you, but I’d like you to keep commenting.

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  156. @Art Deco
    he is opinionated and abrasive–but a real Alaska backcountry guy and a superior writer.
    --
    No, he's a 'writer', and his shtick is being 'opinionated and abrasive'. It's a performance. It has little to do with integrity. He reached into the kitchen sink and threw everything rancid he could at McCandless, even making an issue of his expired car registration.

    No, he’s a ‘writer’, and his shtick is being ‘opinionated and abrasive’. It’s a performance. It has little to do with integrity. He reached into the kitchen sink and threw everything rancid he could at McCandless, even making an issue of his expired car registration.

    Why are you so invested in this guy whom, until today, I had never heard of?

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  157. @Art Deco
    and guessed he was a homosexual. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.
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    If they're 'guessing' it's because they have zero evidence.

    …and guessed he was a homosexual. They decided to leave that out of the movie as Krakauer left it out of the book.

    If they’re ‘guessing’ it’s because they have zero evidence.

    Why are you so invested in this guy whom, until today, I had never heard of?

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  158. Twinkie says:
    @Lagertha
    Missoula is on the top ten list of towns to retire to. Virtually, all of Montana is now the place to retire to (but please don't move there!) - there are actually T-shirts, so not kidding, that say that! Plus, if you wanna off yourself in Montana, well, you can! This is why I love MT: if I want to die, I can get it done without it being messy for my family.

    The SV companies have and are, adding satellites in Missoula, Bozeman, Billings (not as pretty), Boise ID, Salt Lake UT, Park City UT...so, it is freaking some people out.

    Missoula is on the top ten list of towns to retire to. Virtually, all of Montana is now the place to retire to

    Not quite. Missoula and some of the other towns you mentioned are now popular with the “hip” crowd, but the rest of the sparsely populated MT is still not considered desirable places by the SWPL crowd, because it lacks the typical SWPL amenities that college towns provide (it’s like the difference between Laramie and Gillette, WY – both are the only two towns in WY with about 30,000 people, but one is a college town and the other is not; the not town has trouble attracting professionals). And frankly most elderly still prefer a warmer climate. So MT gets a specific retiree demographic, let’s say, “artsy” types, compared to FL.

    The SV companies have and are, adding satellites in Missoula, Bozeman, Billings

    One of those towns, along with Detroit, used to be the dumping ground for a certain federal agency’s troubled “children.” When I heard that, I said, “If I ever become a ‘troublesome child,’ may I please go to MT instead of MI?” My boss at the time said, “Oh, no, Twinkie, that wouldn’t be punishment for you. If you [insert four-letter word] up, I am going to make sure, personally, you go to Detroit.”

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    Bill Gates just built a home in Bozeman county...and, if you have actually been there, you might have visited the iconic "Museum of the Computer" funded by Wozniak - its got one of the original Turing pieces there.

    Let's see, Letterman, Turner, Rockefeller, several other entertainment and industrial millionaires, various different, obscure industrialists who went to MSU support not just MT's u's but the state. You should see the Gallatin airport...the most private jets (including East Hampton, LI or Nantucket) I have ever seen anywhere at any airport, at any time, in the world. I mean, Bozeman is just 35,000 people...with the college students!

    MSU engineering dept. just got $62 million from 2 people last year. I sent them personal Thank You notes.

    My point is, MT is not some hick, creepy, bad-male whitetopia that K is trying to play to sell his books. But, you are right that Montana, because of its remoteness and large degree of the unpretentious, has become popular over states that were considered economically depressed. Montana has the mountains and meadows that are unique...and no cities.
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  159. Steve,

    Just a little “by the way”… I notice you corrected the “what used to be Division II” reference in your post to the proper “what used to be Division I-AA”. However, there’s another mistake… Appalachian State is no longer in FCS. They joined the Sun Belt Conference last July, and this past season App State was counted as a provisional FBS (formerly “Division I-A”) school, with full FBS membership to follow in the 2015 season.

    Instead of “Appalachian State”, you could just say “North Dakota State”—they’ve won the last four FCS championships. (Incidentally, NDSU has beaten an FBS team in each of the last five seasons; they won’t play an FBS team this coming season.)

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  160. Twinkie says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them?

    One of my roommates in college was the cuddle buddy of several women on our floor. Girls would come at night, cuddle a little, sleep next to him, and then leave in the morning. No sex. Not anything remotely sexual.

    He was not, er, what one would call manly.

    Like I mentioned before, I came straight from my time toting a rifle, digging trenches, and eating some of the shittiest rations in the world on a cold, wet mountain in Asia, to this “paradise” of easy women, drugs, and rich kids on an Ivy League campus.

    This whole “cuddle buddy” thing, as with just about everything else, was a HUGE culture shock even though I went to a high school in NYC (where I got into a lot of fights with outside people, but otherwise studied hard, played sports, and went to church).

    Really, when one evaluates most major American university campuses in retrospect, they really are a strange world, a “bizarro” world, that is radically different than the real world (though the real world seems to be catching up quickly). I mean, you could deal copious amounts of drugs and nothing happens to you, but if you called someone an “avaricious Jew” or a “violent black man,” you would be expelled.

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  161. Lagertha says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I asked a kid at MSU/Bozeman…
     
    Just out of curiosity, why is there a film school at this institution? Or, even less explicably, at Southern Illinois?

    Has anything of interest come from either place?

    I would say, not yet. But, the MSU astro-physicist professor just won the biggest award in the field in the world. Look it up.

    MSU and SIU are part of a group of state U’s that have noticed a need/niche/opportunity in education. As more foreign students are entering US u’s, but not enough spots are open up in freshmen classes (elite U’s specifically,) state U’s have seen a chance to expand and attract excellent students who can’t afford private tuition or can’t get into private elites.

    Excellent students are applying like crazy to MSU and SIU…because they will have NO loans. Think about it. Plus, after UCSB, Pepperdine, alright, Williams, I can’t think of another campus (you must like winter) as beautiful and safe as MSU. Safety is a highly regarded variable now for parents all over the world.

    Expanding the liberal arts department by specifically looking at the visual arts offerings, and combining computer science (gaming, graphics, animation, digital music production, visual and sound media), for that matter, was discovered by astute administrators and wild-ass professors about 20 years ago. So, state U’s that offer ALL the other majors, even the expensive ones like engineering, are investing in the biggest American export: entertainment – the one that can’t be outsourced! Film schools and media schools are like mushrooms in the rain at state U’s. MT has the added benefit of receiving taxes and gifts from millionaires and billionaires who live there and love its natural beauty. It is incredibly beautiful…and everyone leaves you alone. What’s not to love?

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    Excellent students are applying like crazy to MSU and SIU…because they will have NO loans. Think about it. Plus, after UCSB, Pepperdine, alright, Williams, I can’t think of another campus (you must like winter) as beautiful
     
    Personally, I prefer the MT-type of beauty, but I think the hosting areas of MSU and Pepperdine, for example, have drastically different looks and elicit very different responses in people.
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  162. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Big Bill
    Decades ago on a cross-country motorcycle trip I stopped by a high school friend's apartment. She insisted I stay the night at her place instead of camping. I did. She insisted I stay in bed with her. I did. I fell asleep.

    I woke up to her fondling my penis. When I rolled over toward her, she said, "no ... no", so I rolled back and fell asleep again.

    Again she fondled my penis and woke me up. Without moving a muscle I said, "Now that you have it what are you going to do with it?" She withdrew her hand and left me alone for the rest of the night.

    Girls are weird.

    iSteve meets Penthouse Forum.

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  163. Twinkie says:
    @Lagertha
    I would say, not yet. But, the MSU astro-physicist professor just won the biggest award in the field in the world. Look it up.

    MSU and SIU are part of a group of state U's that have noticed a need/niche/opportunity in education. As more foreign students are entering US u's, but not enough spots are open up in freshmen classes (elite U's specifically,) state U's have seen a chance to expand and attract excellent students who can't afford private tuition or can't get into private elites.

    Excellent students are applying like crazy to MSU and SIU...because they will have NO loans. Think about it. Plus, after UCSB, Pepperdine, alright, Williams, I can't think of another campus (you must like winter) as beautiful and safe as MSU. Safety is a highly regarded variable now for parents all over the world.

    Expanding the liberal arts department by specifically looking at the visual arts offerings, and combining computer science (gaming, graphics, animation, digital music production, visual and sound media), for that matter, was discovered by astute administrators and wild-ass professors about 20 years ago. So, state U's that offer ALL the other majors, even the expensive ones like engineering, are investing in the biggest American export: entertainment - the one that can't be outsourced! Film schools and media schools are like mushrooms in the rain at state U's. MT has the added benefit of receiving taxes and gifts from millionaires and billionaires who live there and love its natural beauty. It is incredibly beautiful...and everyone leaves you alone. What's not to love?

    Excellent students are applying like crazy to MSU and SIU…because they will have NO loans. Think about it. Plus, after UCSB, Pepperdine, alright, Williams, I can’t think of another campus (you must like winter) as beautiful

    Personally, I prefer the MT-type of beauty, but I think the hosting areas of MSU and Pepperdine, for example, have drastically different looks and elicit very different responses in people.

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  164. @anonymous

    Same goes for the gays. Here too if White women were confronted with what actually happens among gays as a matter of routine they’d be running for the hills in hysteria.
     
    But they must know, they can't be that blind except on purpose. Yet a large percentage of women just love love love those male gays even though there's no telling how many minutes ago it's been since that tongue of theirs was licking another man's rear end. I've asked a couple women here and there what the attraction was and never could get a straight answer. I wasn't sure if they were the sort of people who typically lie and stall until they know what the right answer is supposed to be or if they themselves had no capacity for insight.

    But they must know, they can’t be that blind except on purpose.

    Women, let alone ordinary women, are not present when gay men do what they do.

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  165. Lagertha says:
    @Percy Gryce

    Why Montana?
     
    It might have to do with the fact that Krakauer's last project was debunking Greg ("Three Cups of Tea") Mortenson. Mortenson's Central Asia Institute has its headquarters in Bozeman.

    Yes, I guess you are right. I do know that authors can be really bitchy to each other. But MSU is the flagship U and UM is liberal arts and accepts more apps (91%) than MSU. MSU is bigger and is one of the 104 Carnegie Foundation U’s and has the graduate programs…yet they are football rivals? WTF?

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  166. Truth says:
    @Neil Templeton
    Truth,

    How come the guys marching with power fists in the AP photo look like the AfAm equivalent of the white guys rallying for the property rights of "I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro", Cliven Bundy?

    Great minds think alike.

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  167. Lagertha says:
    @Twinkie

    Excellent students are applying like crazy to MSU and SIU…because they will have NO loans. Think about it. Plus, after UCSB, Pepperdine, alright, Williams, I can’t think of another campus (you must like winter) as beautiful
     
    Personally, I prefer the MT-type of beauty, but I think the hosting areas of MSU and Pepperdine, for example, have drastically different looks and elicit very different responses in people.

    what? hosting areas?

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    what? hosting areas?
     
    Areas that host the respective universities, namely Bozeman and Malibu.
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  168. Truth says:
    @Twinkie
    Forget the (very pretty) town of Missoula, and get your stones ready for Ben Affleck: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ben-affleck-apologizes-requesting-pbs-790652

    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.

    I am informed by family history and lore that my ancestors owned many slaves/serfs during pre-modern times. But apparently all these serfs were Asian, so it doesn't count (in any case, if anyone throws stones at me, I will open fire in legitimate self-defense, so don't do it). And in any case, I am ethnically Asian, so it doubly doesn't count (if you owned people of your own race, all is forgiven - just ask the slave-owning free black population and its descendants in America).

    Might count in Korea, but we don’t live there.

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  169. @Lackawanna
    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night(that's after many attempts to remove her clothes have failed), don't tell her any stuff like "it's okay, I understand" just "I gotta go" and then leave suddenly so she gets the message. Don't act angry, but act like you have already forgotten about her as you are leaving, you want her to think you are just going to some other girl's bed that night.

    Next time you hang out alone with her, sex will almost certainly happen. She was already close if you got her in that situation, but she was testing you to see if you were the kind of pathetic loser who would lay in bed all night without sex. I can't believe any man would actually waste their night laying in bed with a girl after being rejected like that. Seriously, don't you have thrills to seek? I just wanted to get the f--- out of their as soon as I realized I wasn't getting any. I just can't imagine what it would be like to be the kind of man who would stay. Would rather sleep in my own bed at the end of the night either way.

    IMO, girls who pull those kinds of stunts are not sexually confident in themselves and are not really worth much. You are not going have great sex with someone so immature and neurotic.



    I find all these game discussion on alt right websites hilarious because I was a jock/juvenile delinquent as a teenager. I was the guy who went through puberty early, who got in lots of fights and won all the fights that that I had with boys from school. Funny to read all the angst over jerks and badboys. If you can't beat em join em. It was fun as hell. If I could live my life again I would be even worse.

    One of my most memorable moments was when I locked some guy I didn't like's book bag in his locker or something like that(maybe I locked his bag in someone else's locker?) and this big rich kid basketball player said something to me like "leave him alone." I told him something like "shut up fag" and then a teacher came and made us all go to class. I didn't think a damn thing of it until some kids in one of my classes told me the dude was mad that I called him a "fag" and wanted to fight me.

    I was surprised this dude would want to fight me. Maybe he though being a lot taller would help him. I had already beaten up older and bigger kids. I'm very athletic, well coordinated and good at fighting so that for me to fight a non fighting sport trained boy like this one was a joke. I couldn't believe this dork would step up to me like that with my reputation.

    Before long, the whole school was talking about the big fight that was going to happen after 3 in the woods behind the school. I was very unconcerned and bored with the whole matter. All these kids kept asking me about the fight all day and were in awe that I was so nonchalant. I felt embarrassed for the pussies who thought getting in a school fight was a big deal. When school ended, all these hangars on followed me to the woods where the dork was waiting with his wimpy basketball/baseball friends. In my HS, the hardcore football players were a separate click from the second rate baseball/basketball players.

    I just stood there and let him punch me in the face once. I was concerned about lawsuits from his rich family if I landed the first punch(one of my friends got sued a year or two before for breaking some retard's jaw who wanted a fight with him). Then he started circling away with me following him for a minute or so until I stepped in with a quick combination left hook, a right that I don't think did much and then another left hook. He fell and then I looked up and saw a cop watching us from near the school! I just turned around and walked away with a huge crowd following me. Everyone else was ecstatic -- "you're the man!" Everyone was treating me like a hero because the other guy was part of stuck up clique that a lot of people resented. I felt embarrassed to go to such a pussy high school that people would make big deal out of a fight. I had played football in a non-school league with black inner kids who got beat up everyday by gangs on their way home from school. They were tough, not me.

    Over the next few days I was showered with love from females. They were most impressed with my icy demeanor during the whole affair. Mr. Fag's hot blonde girlfriend who had always flirted with me left him and later that year, I was in a class with her. She was flirting with me like crazy. We were talking and she started rubbing her foot against my legs under the desk. She already had another boyfriend but hooked up with me secretly anyway.

    Women love the risk takers. I remember all the nasty comments that the HOT girls -- cheerleaders and models and strippers made about average guys who would even just look at them. "Bitches," "losers" "fags." These weren't nerds, just average guys who did not have the killer instict/dark triad type personality. Often these comments were directed at superficially cool, well dressed guys driving nice cars and spending a lot of money when out.

    Women immediately size men up into killers and fags.

    Always ask yourself which you are being.

    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night

    Why? Do you like being arrested for DUI, or do you just like getting less sleep?

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  170. […] was reminded of the troubled Chris McCandless over at Sailer’s place, where he has a post about the writer John […]

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  171. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Art Deco
    No, not a field of study, just some papers on the question. And the article you link to is in Chemical and Engineering News which has the fare its title implies, not original research.

    Here’s a site with original papers on McCandless: http://www.christophermccandless.info/intothewildessay.html

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    They appear to be brief reflections by students and interested general public. I'm not seeing scholarly submissions.
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  172. @Stealth
    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates, but watch out when some of these women are over men. A female supervisor in my chain of command behaves professionally and rationally as long as the underling she's dealing with is female. Unfortunately, she becomes an utter lunatic when she talks to male employees who report to her, even in her written communications. If you only heard her talk to women, you'd have no reason to think that she's not a very competent businesswoman and leader, but the instant she turns away from a woman to talk to a man, she becomes the female version of Mayor West from Family Guy.

    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates

    LOL! Women hate hate hate working for other women.

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    I've certainly seen the same. Women of around 40 years of age, mid-level supervisors of pretty, slim, 20-something year old women, can be extremely vindictive in their handling of such subordinates. And the idea that successful middle-aged women, as a rule, want to help younger women advance in their careers is, to say the least, an unproven asssertion. I think that -- certain subgroups aside -- most women prefer to work with men because they're biologically attuned to eliciting praise and attention from men, not from other women, whom they tend to view as competitors for such attention.
    , @Brutusale
    True dat! My nurse girlfriend says that's the biggest problem with being a nurse. Her favorite boss was the only guy she ever worked for.
    , @dcite
    Not all. At least not all, at all times, and my field is mostly female as are most of my friends; so I've heard it all. I'm sure men find it comforting and pleasant when women, esp. their significant others, say this, but every time I hear the "hate the woman boss" trope I think of the elegant, attractive wry, very sharp and fair woman boss I had. She had been married one month at one time, so her title was "Mrs." and you always called her "Mrs. D..." To this day she haunts me as a prototype for how to grow older, and how to act in most every way. Except I couldn't wear my hair gray as well as she did.
    I have a phobia about all bosses, but I don't think I hate the women ones worse and the one I have now is just fine--I wouldn't have my job without her. The only thing is, some of them, unlike the paragon describe above, take things too personally.
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  173. Lagertha says:
    @Twinkie

    Missoula is on the top ten list of towns to retire to. Virtually, all of Montana is now the place to retire to
     
    Not quite. Missoula and some of the other towns you mentioned are now popular with the "hip" crowd, but the rest of the sparsely populated MT is still not considered desirable places by the SWPL crowd, because it lacks the typical SWPL amenities that college towns provide (it's like the difference between Laramie and Gillette, WY - both are the only two towns in WY with about 30,000 people, but one is a college town and the other is not; the not town has trouble attracting professionals). And frankly most elderly still prefer a warmer climate. So MT gets a specific retiree demographic, let's say, "artsy" types, compared to FL.

    The SV companies have and are, adding satellites in Missoula, Bozeman, Billings
     
    One of those towns, along with Detroit, used to be the dumping ground for a certain federal agency's troubled "children." When I heard that, I said, "If I ever become a 'troublesome child,' may I please go to MT instead of MI?" My boss at the time said, "Oh, no, Twinkie, that wouldn't be punishment for you. If you [insert four-letter word] up, I am going to make sure, personally, you go to Detroit."

    Bill Gates just built a home in Bozeman county…and, if you have actually been there, you might have visited the iconic “Museum of the Computer” funded by Wozniak – its got one of the original Turing pieces there.

    Let’s see, Letterman, Turner, Rockefeller, several other entertainment and industrial millionaires, various different, obscure industrialists who went to MSU support not just MT’s u’s but the state. You should see the Gallatin airport…the most private jets (including East Hampton, LI or Nantucket) I have ever seen anywhere at any airport, at any time, in the world. I mean, Bozeman is just 35,000 people…with the college students!

    MSU engineering dept. just got $62 million from 2 people last year. I sent them personal Thank You notes.

    My point is, MT is not some hick, creepy, bad-male whitetopia that K is trying to play to sell his books. But, you are right that Montana, because of its remoteness and large degree of the unpretentious, has become popular over states that were considered economically depressed. Montana has the mountains and meadows that are unique…and no cities.

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    Bill Gates just built a home in Bozeman county…and, if you have actually been there, you might have visited the iconic “Museum of the Computer” funded by Wozniak – its got one of the original Turing pieces there.
     
    Bill Gates is not an ordinary retiree. He can bring his own SWPL amenities by a fleet of helicopters if he so desired. And I don't care about a computer museum (I'm more of a hunting and fishing kind of a guy), so I never went.

    I have been to Montana many times (for work a few times, mostly Malmstrom, and otherwise more frequently for pleasure because my wife has kin there), and have visited Missoula, Bozeman, and Billings too, obviously. In fact, there is a picture of my family, including some of my special dogs who are no longer alive, with the 'M' on the background taken in Missoula right on the wall of my home office, in which I am typing this very comment. I've driven across the whole state many, many times on top of that (at rather high speeds, I must admit).

    Regarding the whole celebrity angle, that's not all that different from Idaho or Wyoming where such people own ranches and property. But that is a very different life than how the ordinary people live, especially away from the more popular and hip college towns and where they make a living off of ranching, farming, and mining.


    remoteness
     
    That's just a physical fact.

    large degree of the unpretentious
     
    Montana does not have a monopoly on "unpretentiousness." However, Montana's "hipper" towns have the same problem as any other college or SWPL town in other heavily rural states: the relatively well-to-do (and some transplants) there have a chip on their shoulder vis-à-vis their counterparts in bigger metros all the while seeing themselves as more elite than their far more rural, poorer, and less sophisticated residents of the same state. I have seen the same dynamic in every affluent small town in the rural South, the Midwest, and the Plains states I visited.
    , @Brutusale
    Uh, during the high season one year when I was vacationing there, Nantucket's Tom Nevers Field had more flights than Logan. And it ain't Cape Air making up that number.
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  174. black sea says:
    @ben tillman

    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates
     
    LOL! Women hate hate hate working for other women.

    I’ve certainly seen the same. Women of around 40 years of age, mid-level supervisors of pretty, slim, 20-something year old women, can be extremely vindictive in their handling of such subordinates. And the idea that successful middle-aged women, as a rule, want to help younger women advance in their careers is, to say the least, an unproven asssertion. I think that — certain subgroups aside — most women prefer to work with men because they’re biologically attuned to eliciting praise and attention from men, not from other women, whom they tend to view as competitors for such attention.

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  175. Twinkie says:
    @Lagertha
    what? hosting areas?

    what? hosting areas?

    Areas that host the respective universities, namely Bozeman and Malibu.

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  176. Twinkie says:
    @Lagertha
    Bill Gates just built a home in Bozeman county...and, if you have actually been there, you might have visited the iconic "Museum of the Computer" funded by Wozniak - its got one of the original Turing pieces there.

    Let's see, Letterman, Turner, Rockefeller, several other entertainment and industrial millionaires, various different, obscure industrialists who went to MSU support not just MT's u's but the state. You should see the Gallatin airport...the most private jets (including East Hampton, LI or Nantucket) I have ever seen anywhere at any airport, at any time, in the world. I mean, Bozeman is just 35,000 people...with the college students!

    MSU engineering dept. just got $62 million from 2 people last year. I sent them personal Thank You notes.

    My point is, MT is not some hick, creepy, bad-male whitetopia that K is trying to play to sell his books. But, you are right that Montana, because of its remoteness and large degree of the unpretentious, has become popular over states that were considered economically depressed. Montana has the mountains and meadows that are unique...and no cities.

    Bill Gates just built a home in Bozeman county…and, if you have actually been there, you might have visited the iconic “Museum of the Computer” funded by Wozniak – its got one of the original Turing pieces there.

    Bill Gates is not an ordinary retiree. He can bring his own SWPL amenities by a fleet of helicopters if he so desired. And I don’t care about a computer museum (I’m more of a hunting and fishing kind of a guy), so I never went.

    I have been to Montana many times (for work a few times, mostly Malmstrom, and otherwise more frequently for pleasure because my wife has kin there), and have visited Missoula, Bozeman, and Billings too, obviously. In fact, there is a picture of my family, including some of my special dogs who are no longer alive, with the ‘M’ on the background taken in Missoula right on the wall of my home office, in which I am typing this very comment. I’ve driven across the whole state many, many times on top of that (at rather high speeds, I must admit).

    Regarding the whole celebrity angle, that’s not all that different from Idaho or Wyoming where such people own ranches and property. But that is a very different life than how the ordinary people live, especially away from the more popular and hip college towns and where they make a living off of ranching, farming, and mining.

    remoteness

    That’s just a physical fact.

    large degree of the unpretentious

    Montana does not have a monopoly on “unpretentiousness.” However, Montana’s “hipper” towns have the same problem as any other college or SWPL town in other heavily rural states: the relatively well-to-do (and some transplants) there have a chip on their shoulder vis-à-vis their counterparts in bigger metros all the while seeing themselves as more elite than their far more rural, poorer, and less sophisticated residents of the same state. I have seen the same dynamic in every affluent small town in the rural South, the Midwest, and the Plains states I visited.

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  177. Brutusale says:
    @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Aaron Hernandez went to U of Florida, not FSU

    To paraphrase Dan Jenkins, when Florida plays Florida State, they should officiate the game with a car alarm instead of a whistle.

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  178. Brutusale says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Well, there's the weird case of Chelsea Handler, one of six, in crowded New Jersey. Jewish upbringing, Jewish dad, German jack-Mormon mom. Must be the LDS influence, it sure ain't Jewish or German.

    She had an abortion at 16. Sounds Jewish to me.

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  179. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Mike
    Chris McCandless starved to death. He didn't accidentally poison himself.

    You’re mistaking Krakauer’s thesis. He starved to death because he was no longer more than minimally ambulatory and could not hike out or do more than minimal local foraging. Krakauer’s thesis is that he ate wild potato which contains a neurotoxin. The body can ordinarily tolerate the neurotoxin, which is why guidebooks list the wild potato as edible; it’s Krakauer’s thesis that McCandless’ low caloric intake over several months had rendered him vulnerable to the neurotoxin.

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  180. Brutusale says:
    @ben tillman

    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates
     
    LOL! Women hate hate hate working for other women.

    True dat! My nurse girlfriend says that’s the biggest problem with being a nurse. Her favorite boss was the only guy she ever worked for.

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  181. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Jack D
    Almost none and none are two different things. Large (1/2) Jewish non-Orthodox families are rare but apparently Krakauer grew up in one. Such families are rare but they are not physical impossibilities by any stretch. In the '50s three kids was a very common family size so this is only 2 more. Six years is a lot. Having been born in the '50s, a lot of my (Jewish) friends & cousins were more like 2 or 3 years apart. And women married much younger then - early 20's or even late teens. Plenty of time to have 5 kids even 3 yrs apart.

    No one said that Krakauer had a Jewish upbringing, just that he was genetically 1/2 Jewish. It sounds like his father wanted to get as far away from Judaism as possible (having 5 kids at a time when most secular Jews didn't could have been part of that). As Steve said, he had kind of ideal genetics and background for an outdoor writer - high intelligence and verbal skills from his Jewish side plus an outdoorsy upbringing and Scandinavian genes on his maternal side.

    Do you dispute the accuracy of the Wikipedia biography?

    The median age at first marriage for women in 1956 was just shy of 21. Three or four children was about normal. Five was atypical, especially among non-Catholic non-agrarian families. He grew up in a town in Oregon which as we speak has a single synagogue, operating out of a private home (and founded in 1979). At the time his parents were married, inter-marriage was quite atypical among Jews.

    I don’t know why you all keep flogging this, except that this site is shot through with DNA obsessives and Jew obsessives. This argument started with the assertion of Gary Googler that this is another episode of Jews beating up on gentiles (which statement is another episode in one of the poisonous memes which populate this place). Krakauer isn’t some Upper West Side denizen; his connection to American Jewry is evanescent, and it did not stop him from detonating a journalistic IED near David Oliver Relin (whose family was suburban Jewish in a very uncomplicated way, if that interests anyone).

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  182. Brutusale says:
    @Lagertha
    Bill Gates just built a home in Bozeman county...and, if you have actually been there, you might have visited the iconic "Museum of the Computer" funded by Wozniak - its got one of the original Turing pieces there.

    Let's see, Letterman, Turner, Rockefeller, several other entertainment and industrial millionaires, various different, obscure industrialists who went to MSU support not just MT's u's but the state. You should see the Gallatin airport...the most private jets (including East Hampton, LI or Nantucket) I have ever seen anywhere at any airport, at any time, in the world. I mean, Bozeman is just 35,000 people...with the college students!

    MSU engineering dept. just got $62 million from 2 people last year. I sent them personal Thank You notes.

    My point is, MT is not some hick, creepy, bad-male whitetopia that K is trying to play to sell his books. But, you are right that Montana, because of its remoteness and large degree of the unpretentious, has become popular over states that were considered economically depressed. Montana has the mountains and meadows that are unique...and no cities.

    Uh, during the high season one year when I was vacationing there, Nantucket’s Tom Nevers Field had more flights than Logan. And it ain’t Cape Air making up that number.

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  183. @Lackawanna
    The way you deal with the girl wanting to hang out in her bed and not have intercourse is to get up and leave when it becomes clear she is not going to change her mind that night(that's after many attempts to remove her clothes have failed), don't tell her any stuff like "it's okay, I understand" just "I gotta go" and then leave suddenly so she gets the message. Don't act angry, but act like you have already forgotten about her as you are leaving, you want her to think you are just going to some other girl's bed that night.

    Next time you hang out alone with her, sex will almost certainly happen. She was already close if you got her in that situation, but she was testing you to see if you were the kind of pathetic loser who would lay in bed all night without sex. I can't believe any man would actually waste their night laying in bed with a girl after being rejected like that. Seriously, don't you have thrills to seek? I just wanted to get the f--- out of their as soon as I realized I wasn't getting any. I just can't imagine what it would be like to be the kind of man who would stay. Would rather sleep in my own bed at the end of the night either way.

    IMO, girls who pull those kinds of stunts are not sexually confident in themselves and are not really worth much. You are not going have great sex with someone so immature and neurotic.



    I find all these game discussion on alt right websites hilarious because I was a jock/juvenile delinquent as a teenager. I was the guy who went through puberty early, who got in lots of fights and won all the fights that that I had with boys from school. Funny to read all the angst over jerks and badboys. If you can't beat em join em. It was fun as hell. If I could live my life again I would be even worse.

    One of my most memorable moments was when I locked some guy I didn't like's book bag in his locker or something like that(maybe I locked his bag in someone else's locker?) and this big rich kid basketball player said something to me like "leave him alone." I told him something like "shut up fag" and then a teacher came and made us all go to class. I didn't think a damn thing of it until some kids in one of my classes told me the dude was mad that I called him a "fag" and wanted to fight me.

    I was surprised this dude would want to fight me. Maybe he though being a lot taller would help him. I had already beaten up older and bigger kids. I'm very athletic, well coordinated and good at fighting so that for me to fight a non fighting sport trained boy like this one was a joke. I couldn't believe this dork would step up to me like that with my reputation.

    Before long, the whole school was talking about the big fight that was going to happen after 3 in the woods behind the school. I was very unconcerned and bored with the whole matter. All these kids kept asking me about the fight all day and were in awe that I was so nonchalant. I felt embarrassed for the pussies who thought getting in a school fight was a big deal. When school ended, all these hangars on followed me to the woods where the dork was waiting with his wimpy basketball/baseball friends. In my HS, the hardcore football players were a separate click from the second rate baseball/basketball players.

    I just stood there and let him punch me in the face once. I was concerned about lawsuits from his rich family if I landed the first punch(one of my friends got sued a year or two before for breaking some retard's jaw who wanted a fight with him). Then he started circling away with me following him for a minute or so until I stepped in with a quick combination left hook, a right that I don't think did much and then another left hook. He fell and then I looked up and saw a cop watching us from near the school! I just turned around and walked away with a huge crowd following me. Everyone else was ecstatic -- "you're the man!" Everyone was treating me like a hero because the other guy was part of stuck up clique that a lot of people resented. I felt embarrassed to go to such a pussy high school that people would make big deal out of a fight. I had played football in a non-school league with black inner kids who got beat up everyday by gangs on their way home from school. They were tough, not me.

    Over the next few days I was showered with love from females. They were most impressed with my icy demeanor during the whole affair. Mr. Fag's hot blonde girlfriend who had always flirted with me left him and later that year, I was in a class with her. She was flirting with me like crazy. We were talking and she started rubbing her foot against my legs under the desk. She already had another boyfriend but hooked up with me secretly anyway.

    Women love the risk takers. I remember all the nasty comments that the HOT girls -- cheerleaders and models and strippers made about average guys who would even just look at them. "Bitches," "losers" "fags." These weren't nerds, just average guys who did not have the killer instict/dark triad type personality. Often these comments were directed at superficially cool, well dressed guys driving nice cars and spending a lot of money when out.

    Women immediately size men up into killers and fags.

    Always ask yourself which you are being.

    Cool story, bro.

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    the point is the disproportion in the media goes in the exact opposite direction to the disproportion in reality which highlights the media’s anti-white racism.
     
    Or it could simply be that the routine isn't news, whereas the unusual is. Black guy rapes anyone = routine and depressing. White guy rapes anyone = man bites dog. That SJW's clamber on to make a case for white man's inhumanity to woman, Gaia or the cause of the moment is just the usual political opportunism. It's the equivalent of the NYT railing against guns after a mass shooting.

    Or it could simply be that the routine isn’t news, whereas the unusual is. Black guy rapes anyone = routine and depressing. White guy rapes anyone = man bites dog.

    The problem with this theory is that the man-bites-dog cases are presented as dog-bites-man stories. They are used to propagate the ideas that the exception is actually the rule and that Whites are collectively guilty for such supposedly pervasive aggression against non-Whites.

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    The problem with this theory is that the man-bites-dog cases are presented as dog-bites-man stories. They are used to propagate the ideas that the exception is actually the rule and that Whites are collectively guilty for such supposedly pervasive aggression against non-Whites.
     
    Or it may simply be overcompensation to defuse longstanding accusations of anti-black media racism for the routine news items about black crime printed on the inside pages. "See - we not only report on white crime; we put it up in neon lights".
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  185. Svigor says:

    Gary Googler looks at this and sees Jews slamming others. The Jew thing is your shtick too. You fancy that’s perfectly normal. It is not.

    No, but you clearly fancy yourself a mind-reader.

    “It was pretty weird to have a guy who stayed in his tent when other people were pulling survivors off the mountain to be standing in judgment of other climbers and their decisions.”

    Maybe he was inventing a new crampon?

    “Now hardened television watchers know for sure that they are about to see one of the few formula scenarios of the movies and television today-the nightmare descent of the innocent city dweller into the incomprehensibly wicked and evil depths of the countryside.”

    That must’ve been back before the Jews took over the media.

    “This characterization of the small town as evil and threatening to innocent city dwellers is now a staple of contemporary American mass culture. But the small town wasn’t always seen that way. Over a relatively brief time, cultural attitudes towards small towns have changed virtually 180 degrees, from the old view of the small town as the bastion of everything good about America to the current view of the small town as everything frightening and corrupt about America. The change has been so complete that when we see a ves- tige of the old view appear, we are startled.

    Er…

    Except for golf courses and beaches, as Tom Wolfe noted in I Am Charlotte Simmons.

    And Central Park, during the good years, I’m sure.

    Or it could simply be that the routine isn’t news, whereas the unusual is. Black guy rapes anyone = routine and depressing. White guy rapes anyone = man bites dog.

    The test for whether the dog bites man thing works is if what you’re comparing it to is somewhere near as well-known as the fact that dogs bite people. The sky-high black rape rate compared to the white rate is now a hatefact that everyone knows to be a racist lie, so no, it doesn’t work here.

    One reason for the lack of interest in blacks raping whites is that liberals genuinely don’t expect blacks to behave any better.

    Nowhere in the MSM will you find liberals saying they don’t expect blacks to behave any better. In fact, this is verboten.

    Everybody knows dogs bite people. The only reason journalists don’t say this is because everyone really does know that already. Stating this fact will not get you fired.

    He had a slave-owning ancestor! And he tried to hide it! Clearly he must be stoned to death for having a relatively affluent white ancestor and for deception.

    Last headline I saw about this (a few days ago) said he tried to “suppress” his slave-owning family background.

    I’ve got one of those names that you almost never see, except on the backs of the occasional black NFL player. Heard it now and then during roll call in public schools though – all black. It’s never bothered me a bit.

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  186. carol says:
    @Neil Templeton
    "UM was a little late to the party in recruiting JC thugs from the south to *intimidate* their opponents."

    Not so much. The Swarthout teams of '69 and '70 had plenty of JC kids from California - also Hawaiians. Often in trouble downtown.

    Hawaiian? Don’t you mean Samoan?

    They did make good bouncers.

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  187. carol says:

    I wonder of Krakauer sees some kind of parallel between Into the Wild, Into thin Air, Into the Frat house/locker room/jock apts wherever it was? He seems to focus on fools in a state of nature, implying, what did they expect?

    Think I’ll buy the book.

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  188. Calogero says:
    @Anonymous
    There's a burger king ad here in GB that shows white scam artists and honest black bk employee. Reverse the roles and tshtf. I don't know why all white people don't boycott Burger King, I know I will.

    In my neck of the woods, whites stopped going to places like Burger King and McDonald’s a long time ago. Even in all white neighborhoods, the workers and customers are all black or mestizo.

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  189. @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them?

    Sure it’s a thing, Steve … it’s called marriage.

    “Not tonight, honey.”

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    Sure it’s a thing, Steve … it’s called marriage.

    “Not tonight, honey.”
     
    You must be a Protestant.*

    This made me think of the Catholic vs. Protestant family scene in Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life." And old, snobby Protestant explains to his wife that all these bloody Catholics ("alien episcopal supremacy!") have bloody children they bloody can't afford (as an unending stream, literally dozens, perhaps hundreds, of children walk out of an impoverished Catholic household next door), because they have children every time they have relations.

    The Protestant wife, confused, asks the husband, "What do you mean, dear? We have two children, and we also had relations only twice."

    Unam sanctam catholicam et apostolicam ecclesiam!

    *And not a Mormon.
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  190. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    Here's a site with original papers on McCandless: http://www.christophermccandless.info/intothewildessay.html

    They appear to be brief reflections by students and interested general public. I’m not seeing scholarly submissions.

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  191. @MQ
    Jews hate nature and the outdoors,

    A bizarre stereotype, although I guess it somehow relates the idea that Jews are an urban people. I love the outdoors and lots of my other Jewish friends do too. A lot of Israelis tend to be serious outdoors type, there is a cult of the land there as one would expect. In general, contrary to the views of some here, Jews are not malevolent conspirators produced in an underground cave at Jew Central, but products of their culture and times like everyone else. In America, the modern SWPL affection for national parks and the like means Jews, as upper-middle class Americans, are just as likely as any other SWPL whites to be into things like hiking.

    Jewish trivia: the inventor of the crampon and the leader of the first attempt on K2 was Jewish (Oscar Eckenstein).

    “Jewish trivia: the inventor of the crampon and the leader of the first attempt on K2 was Jewish (Oscar Eckenstein).”

    Thelemic trivia: maybe it just makes a good story, but most web sources report that the joint leaders on K2 were Eckenstein and “the wickedest man in the world” Aleister Crowley.

    http://climbing.about.com/od/8000metermountains/a/Dateline-1902-First-Attempt-To-Climb-K2-Part-Ii.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

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  192. rick says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them? Wasn't "sleep with" a standard euphemism for "have sex with"? It seems like when I read about the campus rape crisis these days I keep hearing stories about some girl who sleeps with a guy but is shocked, shocked when he tries to have sex with her.

    It is for Christian girls, which Montana might be full of. I suffered through it in the ’80′s.

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  193. marty says:
    @Truth

    The black sexual predation and brutality against black teenage (and pre-teen) girls and boys is so prevalent and takes place on such a scale, nice White women would be puking up their breakfast every morning
     
    Did Huggy Bear give you that info,or was it all of those years you lived in the ghetto?

    Nah, it was Big Mike in Berkeley. On the b-ball court he told me, “black people are messed up, man.”

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    Nah, it was Big Mike in Berkeley. On the b-ball court he told me, “black people are messed up, man.”
     
    Plenty are.
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  194. Marty says:
    @carol
    UM football and B ball have plenty of black players, several of whom were busted for home invasion, drug selling, murder etc. UM was a little late to the party in recruiting JC thugs from the south to *intimidate* their opponents. Sadly, we end up with the runts of the litter, and none too smart at that.

    I assumed all the mystery around the various investigations meant the perps were black. Guess I hang around iSteve too much.

    I was actually in a holding cell in California with a smallish U.M footballer in ’07. The system erroneously had me with a failure to appear on a traffic citation. He had just transfered to an Arizona school. He spent most of our time together on the phone, telling somebody which gun to sell to raise bail. He asked me, “what’d you do, domestic abuse?”

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  195. Twinkie says:
    @Stan Adams

    Is this really a thing: sleeping with men without having sex with them?
     
    Sure it's a thing, Steve ... it's called marriage.

    "Not tonight, honey."

    Sure it’s a thing, Steve … it’s called marriage.

    “Not tonight, honey.”

    You must be a Protestant.*

    This made me think of the Catholic vs. Protestant family scene in Monty Python’s “The Meaning of Life.” And old, snobby Protestant explains to his wife that all these bloody Catholics (“alien episcopal supremacy!”) have bloody children they bloody can’t afford (as an unending stream, literally dozens, perhaps hundreds, of children walk out of an impoverished Catholic household next door), because they have children every time they have relations.

    The Protestant wife, confused, asks the husband, “What do you mean, dear? We have two children, and we also had relations only twice.”

    Unam sanctam catholicam et apostolicam ecclesiam!

    *And not a Mormon.

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  196. From a cultural evolution, HBD reference, Montana is a meeting but not melting frontier of the pioneer (Scots-Irish) and shade tolerant N. European Societies (Scandinavian, German, Anglo-Saxon/Norman). With chunks of darker Europe (Irish, Italian, Cornish, Welsh, Finnish, Croatian, etc.) thrown in as the mining and transport by rail component. Also the native component of a dozen or so Indian tribes. Respect, or social status was granted largely on merit basis throughout the state until fairly recently, say 1985 or so. Merit measured on primitive factors including honesty, generosity, courage, speaking skill, athletic ability, and sacrifice.

    Montana is still a high trust and open society by national standards. Alas, all things must change.

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  197. Truth says:
    @marty
    Nah, it was Big Mike in Berkeley. On the b-ball court he told me, "black people are messed up, man."

    Nah, it was Big Mike in Berkeley. On the b-ball court he told me, “black people are messed up, man.”

    Plenty are.

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  198. Andrew says:
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    It gets complicated sometimes. Girl sleeps next to guy. Guy is very respectful and does nothing and girl is kind of pissed the next day that guy did nothing even though she insisted that she only wanted to sleep, nothing more.
     
    Even Gen X women were starting to do this back in the late 90s. I've been out of the game for a while, but this odd behavior was typically exhibited by women looking down the barrel of a "notch-count" that's just a little too high to mesh with her sense of self-worth. A good girl knows that she shouldn't be in your bed this soon, and goes home. A good girl who is young/naive enough, totally into you and just can't help herself, will be expecting a long term relationship and she's probably imagining how cute your last name sounds with her first name. A slut just doesn't care. It's the girls who have been around the block and had their hearts broken a few times, yet aren't comfortable going full-on "Samantha" who tend to pull this stunt.

    It's not only a mindf*** for emasculated men, but also a mindf*** for high-T men raised to be honorable. The Roissy/Heartiste concepts of "shit-test", "anti-slut defense" and "last minute resistance" explain it all.

    If you behave yourself, it's a one-way ticket to the friend zone.
    If you initiate anyway, that's probably what she wanted all along.
    If you initiate and she still says no, she'll at least take you seriously as a man and likely be more receptive in a couple of days.

    Gunnar von Cowtown:

    I think you nailed it.

    My Gen X wife insisted she was going to be a virgin when married. She also could barely constrain herself. Her roommate insisted I could not sleep on the couch every weekend. Something had to give.

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    Something had to give.
     
    Ha! Sounds like everything worked out for the best, though.
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  199. @Andrew
    Gunnar von Cowtown:

    I think you nailed it.

    My Gen X wife insisted she was going to be a virgin when married. She also could barely constrain herself. Her roommate insisted I could not sleep on the couch every weekend. Something had to give.

    Something had to give.

    Ha! Sounds like everything worked out for the best, though.

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  200. dcite says:
    @ben tillman

    It seems to me that women in authority do well with female subordinates
     
    LOL! Women hate hate hate working for other women.

    Not all. At least not all, at all times, and my field is mostly female as are most of my friends; so I’ve heard it all. I’m sure men find it comforting and pleasant when women, esp. their significant others, say this, but every time I hear the “hate the woman boss” trope I think of the elegant, attractive wry, very sharp and fair woman boss I had. She had been married one month at one time, so her title was “Mrs.” and you always called her “Mrs. D…” To this day she haunts me as a prototype for how to grow older, and how to act in most every way. Except I couldn’t wear my hair gray as well as she did.
    I have a phobia about all bosses, but I don’t think I hate the women ones worse and the one I have now is just fine–I wouldn’t have my job without her. The only thing is, some of them, unlike the paragon describe above, take things too personally.

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  201. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @ben tillman

    Or it could simply be that the routine isn’t news, whereas the unusual is. Black guy rapes anyone = routine and depressing. White guy rapes anyone = man bites dog.
     
    The problem with this theory is that the man-bites-dog cases are presented as dog-bites-man stories. They are used to propagate the ideas that the exception is actually the rule and that Whites are collectively guilty for such supposedly pervasive aggression against non-Whites.

    The problem with this theory is that the man-bites-dog cases are presented as dog-bites-man stories. They are used to propagate the ideas that the exception is actually the rule and that Whites are collectively guilty for such supposedly pervasive aggression against non-Whites.

    Or it may simply be overcompensation to defuse longstanding accusations of anti-black media racism for the routine news items about black crime printed on the inside pages. “See – we not only report on white crime; we put it up in neon lights”.

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  202. pinto says:
    @Anonymous
    Why do jews hate men of European origin? Is it jealousy?

    Why do jews hate men of European origin? Is it jealousy?

    Like everyone, it is fear and awe.

    That may sound simplistic, but the sheer ability demonstrated by the civilization and technology created by white men is fearsome and awesome. Probably before the Holocaust, most Jews just had the normal fear and awe everyone has. Now some Jews have somewhat understandable greater fear. Most don’t have more fear, but some may. Anyway, people naturally hate what they fear and awe. See the 7th-10th commandments for further understanding.

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