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From The Guardian:

John Kerry: Europe must tackle climate change or face migration chaos

The ex-US secretary of state, speaking at a Guardian Live event, predicts mass movement from Africa

Patrick Wintour Diplomatic editor

Thu 15 Nov 2018 19.17 EST Last modified on Mon 19 Nov 2018 06.26 EST

Europe faces even deeper political turmoil and the possibility of mass migration from Africa unless the world urgently addresses the threat of climate change, the former US secretary of state John Kerry said on Thursday. …

“Europe is already crushed under this transformation that is taking place due to migration. In Germany Angela Merkel is weakened. Italian politics is significantly impacted.

“Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa. Imagine what happens if Nigeria hits its alleged 500 million people by the middle of the century … you are going to have hordes of people in the northern part of the Mediterranean knocking on the door. I am telling you. If you don’t believe me, just go read the literature.”

 
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  1. Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa.

    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute

    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?
     
    I expect a large number of them will survive by walking south and eating the Congolese.
    , @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    John Kerry: "What happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa."
    Buzz Mohawk: "Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?"

    Exactly! Kerry is making a pro-global-warming argument. He should get together with other world thinkers like Bill Kristol and work out a strategy for the coming decades.
    , @TG
    "they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?"

    Close, but not quite. As Malthus made explicit, what restrains population growth is not generally famine (no food), it is chronic malnutrition (too little food). What happens is that women have trouble getting pregnant, they have trouble carrying a pregnancy to term, their breast milk dries up, and malnourished children readily die of diseases that better fed kids can shrug off.

    When people try to have more children than they can support, one way or the other the impossible does not happen. And at that point, because population is stabilized for lack of food, the average person is driven to the most miserable possible subsistence compatible with human life.

    This is the Malthusian catastrophe. It has happened many times in history. It is happening today in Pakistan and Bangladesh and India. And coming soon, it will be happening in Nigeria.

    And if we don't start limiting immigration, it will be coming soon to a country you may be living in.
    , @SMK
    How many millions or tens of millions will be allowed to enter and live in the U.S. so as not to starve to death?
  2. Does anyone else detect a trend of Lefties beginning to notice African population growth as a threat and displacing it onto anything they can think of that they can blame on us, and not on Africans themselves?

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    In fairness, the lefties were noticing population growth a long time ago--as far back as the 60s. But when they advocated more birth control in the third world, it was the Religious Righties that balked.
    , @Ed
    The Left has been noticing for awhile. The NYT reports that during Merkel’s open invitation to millions of Syrians, Obama scolded her to stop it now or the EU would be done. She sheepishly agreed. Liberals know the score but what’s crucial here is that they don’t want to be seen as knowing the score, which of course is very damaging.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html

    Behind the scenes, the Obama administration encouraged Europe’s hard-line approach, in meetings with Ms. Merkel and her counterpart in Rome, Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister at the time.

    After Ms. Merkel initially extended a warm welcome to the newcomers, Mr. Obama told her in late 2015 that if she didn’t take a tougher, but necessary, stance, she and the European Union would be through.

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

     

    , @AnotherDad

    Does anyone else detect a trend of Lefties beginning to notice African population growth as a threat and displacing it onto anything they can think of that they can blame on us, and not on Africans themselves?
     
    One driver here is the optics. Americans--with our geographic good fortune to be on "the big island"--aren't super worldly aware. For good whites, "diversity" conjures up images of pinatas or means more Chinese, Indian or Thai restaurants ... only racists could objecct!

    But Americans are familiar with blacks. If "nation of immigrants" or "diversity" starts to conjure a mental picture of hordes of blacks streaming in, the lefties know that their gauzy platitudes will crystalize ... and sink like a rock.

    And honestly the liberal elites don't want that either. A big positive points of immigration for elites was to bring in stoop labor and household help that was cheaper and less obstreporous than blacks and to have the newcomers push out blacks and make cities safer. These people want to live in the new New York City, not Detroit.
  3. ‘Diversity is a strength. Immigration is a blessing. And in any case, it’s YOUR fault.’

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  4. Kerry like Obama and the rest of Idiots of the World don’t get it: Over Population is what drives the carbon footprint, ecological footprint and pollution footprint of the world. Africa will cause the collapse of most of the world through disease, ignorance and stupidity. There is no Magic Dirt. The initial input into the system population drives every cycle. The Mickey Mouse game plan that’s all we have to do is this simple Paris Accord (non binding) is total mental masturbation.

    It’s called birth control Kerry…you fucking idiot because system is not static every person is a new carbon footprint!

    Send in the Clowns…..don’t bother they are here!

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
    oh my god! why the fuck does the western european white man not get the fuck out of Africa and leave Africans the alone man.!!!


    the Man has been all over Africa for 4 centuries now... ripping it off, bad mouthing it, killing Africans enslaving, colonizing, stealing land, gold, diamonds, platinum, food, lots and lots of food.


    the western euro white man has screwed Africa royally, gotten rich off Africa and now is running his mouth all over africans. now a disgusting Obamite like Kerry opens up his rotten mouth to bad mouth Africans again. does Obama endorse this nonsense too. no doubt!

    entities like niteranger are amazing indeed, the western euro white man has screwed planet earth and we almost have no where to live anymore and nowhere to go. and he calls Africans stupid. oh mi god!

    just get the western euro white man out of Africa, the caribbean, latin america, confine his arse to the borders of western europe and lets see how great he is. he will have to find food and all he needs in europe.

    interesting! give that man his real challenge once again..back to europe and confine him there... so the world can regain some common sense, intelligence and peace again

    , @another fred

    Over Population is what drives the carbon footprint, ecological footprint and pollution footprint of the world.
     
    That part is right, but this:...

    Africa will cause the collapse of most of the world through disease, ignorance and stupidity.
     
    ...is a little hysterical.

    What is going on is a natural process and moralizing about it will gain you nothing. The population of the world is going to be reduced, probably painfully, but as long as we (homo sap., collectively) avoid an all-out nuclear exchange, life will go on with many lessons learned.


    If you can keep your head when all about you...
     
  5. ……”you are going to have hordes of people in the northern part of the Mediterranean knocking on the door. I am telling you. If you don’t believe me, just go read the literature.”

    Camp of the Saints is what he must be referring too. Banned literature on the left.

  6. What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It’s impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration… but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute

    Besides family planning, it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates.
     
    That’s a bleak assessment given it’s impossibility. Africans can’t keep a power grid working, can’t build or maintain water treatment and sanitation utilities, and many can’t produce enough surplus to afford to buy a television if they did have consistent electric service. As for education, I can’t say authoritatively whether Africans in Africa are educable, but all the evidence shows that Africans in Detriot are capable of around 50% literacy at best.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    Once the West is incapable of sending food and medical aid to Africa I'm guessing the population problem there is going to be solved the old fashioned natural way: Starvation and disease.
    , @advancedatheist

    It’s impossible to get ahead when you have so many children.
     
    People with IQ's in the 70's don't have what it takes to "get ahead" with, regardless of their family size. We have to stop thinking about Africans' problems based on a European model for social and economic development, because Africans lack what the Europeans had to build better lives.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates"
     
    Most of the Africans I know use television and the internet to watch pornography. Will that lower birthrates?
    , @Desiderius

    what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed
     
    Lol.

    The Gods must be crazy!
    , @Cloudbuster
    what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed?

    Where is the electricity going to be mined and pumped from?
    , @Seneca44
    Despite the feel good virtue signaling inherent in electric vehicles, their power does not arise de novo from the magic energy fairy. Hydroelectric and solar remain a drop in the bucket. Where does that leave us? In a place where lots of electricity is still generated by fossil fuels, just not by plants placed in areas populated by goodwhites.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa.
     
    If you want to pay for their "family planning", reach into your own pocket. Not mine.

    They already are planning their families. To be large.

    What you really mean is you want to plan for them.
  7. Does John Kerry read this blog, I would not be surprised. Yer another example of what Ed West called Sailor gap.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Does John Kerry read this blog, I would not be surprised.

    He does. In fact, he comments here as Tiny Duck.
  8. Yeah, it’s climate change. BTW, Kerry, I thought you were pro open borders. Shame on you for your scare tactics. And really, ‘hordes’? Dog whistle if I’ve ever heard one.

  9. Of immediate concern, and especially for the future is there are over 10,000 African illegal immigrants currently residing in Tijuana. As the population of Africa increases exponentially, Mexico’s African illegal alien population numbers will dramatically increase, and we can absolutely count on a serious African bum rush at our borders, chock full of military age uneducated Africans, many traumatized by life in their mother country. Think of the current invasion-force “caravan” as a dress rehearsal for the real thing. How we respond to this drama will highly influence what the future will bring, and how it will be brought.

    Ironically, as far as our future quality of life, this is a crises that not only far outweighs “global warming,” it’s the primary driver of it. Anyone who speaks of “global warming” without a pointed plan for comprehensive population control of third world countries is not to be taken seriously except as an object of ridicule. Green peace, the Sierra club, and other california conservation groups should be shamed at every opportunity, as their cowardice has only served to accelerate the problems they purport to try to manage. They are qualified objects for everyone’s contempt.

  10. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    Besides family planning, it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates.

    That’s a bleak assessment given it’s impossibility. Africans can’t keep a power grid working, can’t build or maintain water treatment and sanitation utilities, and many can’t produce enough surplus to afford to buy a television if they did have consistent electric service. As for education, I can’t say authoritatively whether Africans in Africa are educable, but all the evidence shows that Africans in Detriot are capable of around 50% literacy at best.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The average American Negro is capable of about an honest seventh grade education. The average American Negro effectively operates at second grade level. So there is an exploitable delta there.

    About a quarter of blacks are so low in cognition that for them there is no use whatever economically and sterilizing them would be an obvious kindness to all concerned. If we made agriculture more labor intensive (ban Roundup, 100 percent tax on any tractor bigger than, say, an Oliver 995) we could employ the 50 percent of negroes between the bottom quarter and the top quarter, who can more or less shift for themselves.

    Whether we should is, of course, a whole different question entirely.
    , @gate666
    africans in detroit do have low fertility rate.
    , @njguy73

    Africans can’t keep a power grid working, can’t build or maintain water treatment and sanitation utilities, and many can’t produce enough surplus to afford to buy a television if they did have consistent electric service.
     
    Then send out-of-work actresses to Lagos and have them do stage shows of Sex And The City or Girls episodes. Nigeria's official language is English. Get those chicks who used to be on those Disney Channel and Nickelodeon shows. They're old enough now. I'm sure they'd be glad to be out of Trump's America.

    Where's my MacArthur grant?
  11. @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa.
     
    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?

    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?

    I expect a large number of them will survive by walking south and eating the Congolese.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    ... eating the Congolese.
     
    That's the whole "invite-the-world" part of the PLAN, STAN. Don't you get it? I was in Des Moines, Iowa most of last week, and I couldn't find any good Congolese for the life of me! WTH, man? The United Airlines magazine said I'd have to go to Bozeman, Montana or the south side of Stuttgart to get some of this cuisine. I won't be in either of these places for the rest of the fiscal year. What am I supposed to do now, Stan? We need to up our game, and open up these borders even wider.

    What do we want, Cuisnine Change?!
    When do we want it? Sometime before 6!
    , @Anonymous

    walking south and eating the Congolese.
     
    Someone rewrite the old chestnut:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHWmxCoTV3Y
  12. …hordes of people in the northern part of the Mediterranean knocking on the door.

    The stale, pale, male will be made to apologize for this obviously racist statement. “Hordes” and “knocking on the door”, indeed. How dare he?

    Crushed under the transformation”, you white supremacist? It will be good for Europe.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Hordes” and “knocking on the door”, indeed. How dare he?
     
    At least he didn't write "hoards". That homonym confusion is a big one on the Survival Blogs, as you may well imagine.

    Due it right, people! Don't be a bunch of homo ...

    .
    .

    nym aggressors
  13. The invasion of Europe is now taken, in some quarters, as evidence for global warming.

    • LOL: James N. Kennett
  14. Isn’t this sort of backwards? I don’t recall a mass migration from Africa during the famine in the ’80s (the one Live Aid was about). Starving people are going to have a tough time making it to the Med. It’s not absolute poverty driving African migration; it’s relative-to-Europe poverty.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Dave, you know better than to confuse the issue with facts.:)
    , @bomag

    I don’t recall a mass migration from Africa during the famine in the ’80s
     
    The Left has made it one of their missions in recent years to build migrations routes from the 3rd to the 1st world.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "It’s not absolute poverty driving African migration; it’s relative-to-Europe poverty."
     
    Indeed, it's African affluence. The migrants pay thousands of dollars to those people smugglers to get to Europe. Starving people can't afford that. Of course nowadays the leg of the trip across the Med is now subsidized by Europeans navies, and resettlement the final resettlement leg is subsidized by quaNGOs and taxpayers, so even the more affluent Africans aren't really paying full fare for their being smuggled.
  15. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Besides family planning, it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates.
     
    That’s a bleak assessment given it’s impossibility. Africans can’t keep a power grid working, can’t build or maintain water treatment and sanitation utilities, and many can’t produce enough surplus to afford to buy a television if they did have consistent electric service. As for education, I can’t say authoritatively whether Africans in Africa are educable, but all the evidence shows that Africans in Detriot are capable of around 50% literacy at best.

    The average American Negro is capable of about an honest seventh grade education. The average American Negro effectively operates at second grade level. So there is an exploitable delta there.

    About a quarter of blacks are so low in cognition that for them there is no use whatever economically and sterilizing them would be an obvious kindness to all concerned. If we made agriculture more labor intensive (ban Roundup, 100 percent tax on any tractor bigger than, say, an Oliver 995) we could employ the 50 percent of negroes between the bottom quarter and the top quarter, who can more or less shift for themselves.

    Whether we should is, of course, a whole different question entirely.

  16. @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't this sort of backwards? I don't recall a mass migration from Africa during the famine in the '80s (the one Live Aid was about). Starving people are going to have a tough time making it to the Med. It's not absolute poverty driving African migration; it's relative-to-Europe poverty.

    Dave, you know better than to confuse the issue with facts.:)

  17. @PiltdownMan

    ...hordes of people in the northern part of the Mediterranean knocking on the door.
     
    The stale, pale, male will be made to apologize for this obviously racist statement. "Hordes" and "knocking on the door", indeed. How dare he?

    "Crushed under the transformation", you white supremacist? It will be good for Europe.

    Hordes” and “knocking on the door”, indeed. How dare he?

    At least he didn’t write “hoards“. That homonym confusion is a big one on the Survival Blogs, as you may well imagine.

    Due it right, people! Don’t be a bunch of homo …

    .
    .

    nym aggressors

    • Replies: @Kylie
    I see what you did there.
  18. Hillary, now Kerry. Suddenly bullhorning European problems that have been engineered or that they are already drowning in big parts due to Progressivism is now the new Progressive Meme.

    It’s like ISIS.

    Oh wait, it’s totally like ISIS.

    2015-11-15: Kerry: Assad “Cut His Own Deal” With ISIS

    Bad Assad!

    2017-01-11: US watched ISIS rise in Syria and hoped to ‘manage’ it — Kerry on leaked tape

    I was only projecting!

    “Europe is already crushed under this transformation that is taking place due to migration. In Germany Angela Merkel is weakened. Italian politics is significantly impacted.

    “being crushed” == “political systems that we managed are being threatened”?

    “Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa. Imagine what happens if Nigeria hits its alleged 500 million people by the middle of the century … you are going to have hordes of people in the northern part of the Mediterranean knocking on the door. I am telling you. If you don’t believe me, just go read the literature.”

    So, the translation of “La Ruée vers l’Europe” has arrived on Kerry’s desk? Or is he talking about the Camp of Saints?

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
    Ya gotta love that Hillary is able to identify clearly why Trump was elected president, but Trump himself seems to have forgotten.
  19. Very strange.

    The same people who lecture us, incessantly, that 500 million Nigerians – ‘young vigorous units of potential units of economic output and growth’ – are a disaster when domiciled in Nigeria will be the ‘best thing ever’ when relocated to the Magic Dirt of former Whitemanland.

  20. @Stan d Mute

    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?
     
    I expect a large number of them will survive by walking south and eating the Congolese.

    … eating the Congolese.

    That’s the whole “invite-the-world” part of the PLAN, STAN. Don’t you get it? I was in Des Moines, Iowa most of last week, and I couldn’t find any good Congolese for the life of me! WTH, man? The United Airlines magazine said I’d have to go to Bozeman, Montana or the south side of Stuttgart to get some of this cuisine. I won’t be in either of these places for the rest of the fiscal year. What am I supposed to do now, Stan? We need to up our game, and open up these borders even wider.

    What do we want, Cuisnine Change?!
    When do we want it? Sometime before 6!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Well, London, England is already known amongst the cognoscenti as Londonistan.
  21. @Stan d Mute

    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?
     
    I expect a large number of them will survive by walking south and eating the Congolese.

    walking south and eating the Congolese.

    Someone rewrite the old chestnut:

  22. @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't this sort of backwards? I don't recall a mass migration from Africa during the famine in the '80s (the one Live Aid was about). Starving people are going to have a tough time making it to the Med. It's not absolute poverty driving African migration; it's relative-to-Europe poverty.

    I don’t recall a mass migration from Africa during the famine in the ’80s

    The Left has made it one of their missions in recent years to build migrations routes from the 3rd to the 1st world.

  23. @Stan d Mute

    Besides family planning, it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates.
     
    That’s a bleak assessment given it’s impossibility. Africans can’t keep a power grid working, can’t build or maintain water treatment and sanitation utilities, and many can’t produce enough surplus to afford to buy a television if they did have consistent electric service. As for education, I can’t say authoritatively whether Africans in Africa are educable, but all the evidence shows that Africans in Detriot are capable of around 50% literacy at best.

    africans in detroit do have low fertility rate.

    • Replies: @europeasant
    The Census bureau predicts that the African population in the USA will rise from itz current 43 million to about 60 million in 2060. That's a lot of Africans.
    Can you imagine what would happen if abortion were outlawed!
  24. OT: I don’t know what’s going on. Who is Zizek?

    Philosopher fight: Slavoj Zizek attacks Jordan Peterson and Steven Pinker at Cambridge Union

    Zizek, who appeared at the prestigious university’s union earlier this month, rounded on his fellow philosophers in his typical unique style.

    Having previously praised Peterson for his contentions with political correctness, Zizek denounced the Canadian for having fallen into ‘this stupid trap of using the term of the contemporary right: cultural marxism.’

    The Slovenian leftist then provided a history of the term and the ‘conspiracy theory narrative’ that surrounds it.

    Previously Zizek argued that it was Peterson’s belief in cultural-marxism, a theory which is often labelled anti-semitic [?], that made him a fellow-traveller of the alt-right and undermined his claims to be a ‘classic British liberal.’

    Well, class British liberals died out at around 1850 or so.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    I have to admit that I've given up trying to figure out Zizek, and stopped caring what he thinks. Mind you, I'm not the biggest fan of Peterson either. But he is right about Cultural Marxism, even if he staunchly refused to name the (((culprit))). As far as Zizek is concerned, he just seems to zig-zag back and forth with the tides, never really offering up any coherent explanation as to why. In addition to being a Marxist, he is also, I understand, big into French Postmodernism ... which is always a danger sign.
  25. Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration. The EU has been developing plan after plan to attempt to ‘curb’ African migration, from greater economic assistance to more free trade to holding centres in North Africa.

    However, the most ambitious proposal yet has come in the past couple of days from Germany’s minister for Africa, who called for ‘voluntary colonialism’ in which efficient, prosperous cities run by the EU or the World Bank are created in sub-Saharan Africa, to lure Africans away from the efficient, prosperous cities in Europe. Paul Romer’s call for foreign-run charter cities in dysfunctional countries returns.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-46017551

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration."
     
    Yeah, I noticed this too. Also Hillary.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/hillary-europe-must-curb-immigration-to-stop-rightwing-populists/#comment-2637140

    P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a "minister for Africa"?
  26. The question is not why is John Kerry saying this but why wouldn’t he be publicising this. The only reason to support this happening to Europe is ethnic animus, ultimately Kerry and Clinton are on our team so I don’t see this as some sinister plot, as other articles have mentioned the strategy of our enemies is not to mention it all and hope we don’t notice.

  27. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... eating the Congolese.
     
    That's the whole "invite-the-world" part of the PLAN, STAN. Don't you get it? I was in Des Moines, Iowa most of last week, and I couldn't find any good Congolese for the life of me! WTH, man? The United Airlines magazine said I'd have to go to Bozeman, Montana or the south side of Stuttgart to get some of this cuisine. I won't be in either of these places for the rest of the fiscal year. What am I supposed to do now, Stan? We need to up our game, and open up these borders even wider.

    What do we want, Cuisnine Change?!
    When do we want it? Sometime before 6!

    Well, London, England is already known amongst the cognoscenti as Londonistan.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yes, but can you get some deep fried Congolese? I've got a hankering ...
  28. You know s* is pilling up, when Ghanian and Senegalese leaders are urging the Nigerian leaders to do more.

    Nigeria cannot even reach growth-rate that at least stabilize the poverty-rate.

    Nigeria drags down other West-African countries.

  29. @El Dato
    Hillary, now Kerry. Suddenly bullhorning European problems that have been engineered or that they are already drowning in big parts due to Progressivism is now the new Progressive Meme.

    It's like ISIS.

    Oh wait, it's totally like ISIS.

    2015-11-15: Kerry: Assad “Cut His Own Deal” With ISIS

    Bad Assad!

    2017-01-11: US watched ISIS rise in Syria and hoped to ‘manage’ it — Kerry on leaked tape

    I was only projecting!

    “Europe is already crushed under this transformation that is taking place due to migration. In Germany Angela Merkel is weakened. Italian politics is significantly impacted.
     
    "being crushed" == "political systems that we managed are being threatened"?

    “Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa. Imagine what happens if Nigeria hits its alleged 500 million people by the middle of the century … you are going to have hordes of people in the northern part of the Mediterranean knocking on the door. I am telling you. If you don’t believe me, just go read the literature.”
     
    So, the translation of "La Ruée vers l'Europe" has arrived on Kerry's desk? Or is he talking about the Camp of Saints?

    Ya gotta love that Hillary is able to identify clearly why Trump was elected president, but Trump himself seems to have forgotten.

  30. @Buzz Mohawk
    Does anyone else detect a trend of Lefties beginning to notice African population growth as a threat and displacing it onto anything they can think of that they can blame on us, and not on Africans themselves?

    In fairness, the lefties were noticing population growth a long time ago–as far back as the 60s. But when they advocated more birth control in the third world, it was the Religious Righties that balked.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  31. “Italian politics is significantly impacted.” The Italian Left ran Italy into the ground from 2013-2018. The Italian Left gets less than 24% of the overall vote in the 2018 national elections. The NGO smugglers take one look at Matteo Salvini and start a new ferry service : DESTINATION : SPAIN!

  32. Let’s stop using oil ,that will help Nigeria a lot,lot ,lot.

  33. @El Dato
    OT: I don't know what's going on. Who is Zizek?

    Philosopher fight: Slavoj Zizek attacks Jordan Peterson and Steven Pinker at Cambridge Union

    Zizek, who appeared at the prestigious university’s union earlier this month, rounded on his fellow philosophers in his typical unique style.

    Having previously praised Peterson for his contentions with political correctness, Zizek denounced the Canadian for having fallen into ‘this stupid trap of using the term of the contemporary right: cultural marxism.’

    The Slovenian leftist then provided a history of the term and the ‘conspiracy theory narrative’ that surrounds it.

    Previously Zizek argued that it was Peterson’s belief in cultural-marxism, a theory which is often labelled anti-semitic [?], that made him a fellow-traveller of the alt-right and undermined his claims to be a ‘classic British liberal.’
     
    Well, class British liberals died out at around 1850 or so.

    I have to admit that I’ve given up trying to figure out Zizek, and stopped caring what he thinks. Mind you, I’m not the biggest fan of Peterson either. But he is right about Cultural Marxism, even if he staunchly refused to name the (((culprit))). As far as Zizek is concerned, he just seems to zig-zag back and forth with the tides, never really offering up any coherent explanation as to why. In addition to being a Marxist, he is also, I understand, big into French Postmodernism … which is always a danger sign.

  34. “Europe faces even deeper political turmoil and the possibility of mass migration from Africa unless the world urgently addresses the threat of climate change, the former US secretary of state John Kerry said on Thursday.”

    Wonderful. So they’re giving us a choice between more immigration and higher carbon taxes. It’s just like the old joke: ‘Gimme a break!’ ‘OK. Which arm?’

    BTW, now that Hellary has publicly come out against mass-migration, has anyone yet called her out on the decision to completely destroy Libya a few years back? Or her support for régime-change in Syria? Weren’t these officially considered the main drivers of the ‘refugee’ wave in 2015? At any rate, if I were Angie Merkel, I would hit back by blaming the whole thing on Hellary. That’s just me …

  35. @Buzz Mohawk
    Does anyone else detect a trend of Lefties beginning to notice African population growth as a threat and displacing it onto anything they can think of that they can blame on us, and not on Africans themselves?

    The Left has been noticing for awhile. The NYT reports that during Merkel’s open invitation to millions of Syrians, Obama scolded her to stop it now or the EU would be done. She sheepishly agreed. Liberals know the score but what’s crucial here is that they don’t want to be seen as knowing the score, which of course is very damaging.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html

    Behind the scenes, the Obama administration encouraged Europe’s hard-line approach, in meetings with Ms. Merkel and her counterpart in Rome, Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister at the time.

    After Ms. Merkel initially extended a warm welcome to the newcomers, Mr. Obama told her in late 2015 that if she didn’t take a tougher, but necessary, stance, she and the European Union would be through.

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

    • Replies: @IHTG
    In general, Obama, who comes from a Cold War-era postcolonial leftist background, understands nationalism very well. But that's entirely lost on the generation of millennial SJW nitwits that he inspired.
    , @TTSSYF
    Even if true, it's too little, too late...and blatantly hypocritical, given what Obama allowed at our southern border and promoted with his executive orders, many of which were not legally based. Obama is unsurpassed in smarminess and pedantic, hypocritical preaching and lack of self-awareness (David Gelernter once described Obama as having "mind furniture" -- he believes to be true whatever he happens to be saying on any given day). Case in point: This is the guy who said, "At some point, you've made enough money" and who now, along with his wife, is doing everything he can to rake in millions of dollars. Hillary Clinton is a close second with her cynical re-boot to distinguish Herself from the pack of crazy Dems already vying for the 2020 nomination.
    , @El Dato

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”
     
    This is not a dialogue made for daytime TV serials?
    , @Dieter Kief
    Thanks - this Obama quote will disturb even more European lefties than Hilary Clintons latest immigration warnings.
    , @NZLex
    I'm calling that alleged conversation CYA bullsh*t. Just more dopey attempts to "curb the rising tide of Nationalism" that the elites created by turning democracy into "manufactured consent". Possibly a crude attempt to try and rescue Merkel's terrible popularity ratings in Germany, as she has been a highly successful "democratic" dictator for so many years but the whole wars->mass migration thing ruined her career.
  36. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    Once the West is incapable of sending food and medical aid to Africa I’m guessing the population problem there is going to be solved the old fashioned natural way: Starvation and disease.

  37. It is getting colder and colder … the climate change that is coming is global cooling. It is a solution just not an attractive one.

    • Replies: @Prodigal son
    I agree, The the next 50 years will be much colder due to the Sun cycles which are getting weaker.
    , @Simply Simon
    Good grief, if it's global cooling, to counteract that it seems obvious we need to burn more fossil fuels. Breakout more oil rigs before it's too late.
  38. @Ed
    The Left has been noticing for awhile. The NYT reports that during Merkel’s open invitation to millions of Syrians, Obama scolded her to stop it now or the EU would be done. She sheepishly agreed. Liberals know the score but what’s crucial here is that they don’t want to be seen as knowing the score, which of course is very damaging.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html

    Behind the scenes, the Obama administration encouraged Europe’s hard-line approach, in meetings with Ms. Merkel and her counterpart in Rome, Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister at the time.

    After Ms. Merkel initially extended a warm welcome to the newcomers, Mr. Obama told her in late 2015 that if she didn’t take a tougher, but necessary, stance, she and the European Union would be through.

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

     

    In general, Obama, who comes from a Cold War-era postcolonial leftist background, understands nationalism very well. But that’s entirely lost on the generation of millennial SJW nitwits that he inspired.

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
  39. @Ed
    The Left has been noticing for awhile. The NYT reports that during Merkel’s open invitation to millions of Syrians, Obama scolded her to stop it now or the EU would be done. She sheepishly agreed. Liberals know the score but what’s crucial here is that they don’t want to be seen as knowing the score, which of course is very damaging.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html

    Behind the scenes, the Obama administration encouraged Europe’s hard-line approach, in meetings with Ms. Merkel and her counterpart in Rome, Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister at the time.

    After Ms. Merkel initially extended a warm welcome to the newcomers, Mr. Obama told her in late 2015 that if she didn’t take a tougher, but necessary, stance, she and the European Union would be through.

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

     

    Even if true, it’s too little, too late…and blatantly hypocritical, given what Obama allowed at our southern border and promoted with his executive orders, many of which were not legally based. Obama is unsurpassed in smarminess and pedantic, hypocritical preaching and lack of self-awareness (David Gelernter once described Obama as having “mind furniture” — he believes to be true whatever he happens to be saying on any given day). Case in point: This is the guy who said, “At some point, you’ve made enough money” and who now, along with his wife, is doing everything he can to rake in millions of dollars. Hillary Clinton is a close second with her cynical re-boot to distinguish Herself from the pack of crazy Dems already vying for the 2020 nomination.

  40. @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa.
     
    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?

    John Kerry: “What happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa.”
    Buzz Mohawk: “Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?”

    Exactly! Kerry is making a pro-global-warming argument. He should get together with other world thinkers like Bill Kristol and work out a strategy for the coming decades.

  41. The entire “African population bomb” analysis is rubbish from beginning to end. Africa isn’t feeding its current population, not even close. In certainly won’t feed a population X times larger. The only reason that the population is growing now, is because Western, mostly NGO’s, but other agencies as well, are feeding what is in effect a continental charity case.

    Stop feeding the charity case, the population snaps back to what is supportable locally. Ugly and brutal, but then they are already having infant Ebola outbreaks, and that isn’t going to get better with increased local population pressure. The more so since, while you can feed Third Worlders, you can’t teach them anything related to sanitation. (As an aside, this is why the Muslim world is at least a cousin to the Western world. Muslim cities are clean, orderly, and generally up to standards, whereas, for instance, a Hindu Indian city is just as sh!t covered as San Francisco.)

    Making the Black Race everywhere stand on its on feet and own productivity – my God, what if that idea caught on?

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Muslim cities are clean, orderly
     
    Maybe those with bunch of petrodollars to pay western/Chinese engineers to organize street cleaning. And i guess Levant to certain level, but other than that, yikes. Ever being to Morocco, or Cairo? Plus Pakis and a lot of Indians, nice chunk of blacks are Mohamedans.
    , @another fred

    ...what if that idea caught on?

     

    Probably not going to happen, but there have been people who can see the logic.

    http://www.garretthardinsociety.org/articles/art_lifeboat_ethics_case_against_helping_poor.html
  42. Mr. Kerry is wrong about global warming: we should be doing everything we can to encourage global warming in order to make the Sahara a more formidable barrier.

  43. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    It’s impossible to get ahead when you have so many children.

    People with IQ’s in the 70′s don’t have what it takes to “get ahead” with, regardless of their family size. We have to stop thinking about Africans’ problems based on a European model for social and economic development, because Africans lack what the Europeans had to build better lives.

  44. Poverty is relative. Europe was, according to todays standards, a third world poorhouse only a few centuries ago. The problem is not that Africans are poorer than they were before. In fact, most of them, are significantly better off as can be seen, for instance, by the fact that now 80 percent of them own mobile phones*.

    But that is precisely the problem: In former times, people would live more or less content in their villages. Today, with the mass availability of TV and Internet they are constantly flooded with impressions of the first world, naturally leading to the awakening of desires to migrate in many of them.

    *http://www.pewglobal.org/2018/10/09/internet-connectivity-seen-as-having-positive-impact-on-life-in-sub-saharan-africa/pg_2018-10-9_africa-tech-use_0-4/

  45. @Ed
    The Left has been noticing for awhile. The NYT reports that during Merkel’s open invitation to millions of Syrians, Obama scolded her to stop it now or the EU would be done. She sheepishly agreed. Liberals know the score but what’s crucial here is that they don’t want to be seen as knowing the score, which of course is very damaging.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html

    Behind the scenes, the Obama administration encouraged Europe’s hard-line approach, in meetings with Ms. Merkel and her counterpart in Rome, Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister at the time.

    After Ms. Merkel initially extended a warm welcome to the newcomers, Mr. Obama told her in late 2015 that if she didn’t take a tougher, but necessary, stance, she and the European Union would be through.

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

     

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

    This is not a dialogue made for daytime TV serials?

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  46. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    “it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates”

    Most of the Africans I know use television and the internet to watch pornography. Will that lower birthrates?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    No, but we should be ramping USAID up to deliver food full of High Fructose Corn Syrup to the dark continent.
    , @Prodigal son
    Yes ,we need to provide free porn to Africa. Easy access to porn is one reason American teens are less sexually active today than their parents and grandparents...teens were probably more sexually active 100 years ago than today.
    , @Redneck farmer
    Wasn't there a Swedish female legislator about 2 decades ago who wanted to show "erotica" on TV to increase the birthrate?
  47. @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't this sort of backwards? I don't recall a mass migration from Africa during the famine in the '80s (the one Live Aid was about). Starving people are going to have a tough time making it to the Med. It's not absolute poverty driving African migration; it's relative-to-Europe poverty.

    “It’s not absolute poverty driving African migration; it’s relative-to-Europe poverty.”

    Indeed, it’s African affluence. The migrants pay thousands of dollars to those people smugglers to get to Europe. Starving people can’t afford that. Of course nowadays the leg of the trip across the Med is now subsidized by Europeans navies, and resettlement the final resettlement leg is subsidized by quaNGOs and taxpayers, so even the more affluent Africans aren’t really paying full fare for their being smuggled.

    • Replies: @Ed
    This migration strategy has all but ended due to Italy cracking down on these NGO vessels. They confiscated one Doctors without the Borders.

    A ship of migrants was “rescued” by Libyans and the migrants have thus far refused to disembark claiming they fear detention in Libya. The Libyans have threatened to remove them by force.
  48. @indocon
    Does John Kerry read this blog, I would not be surprised. Yer another example of what Ed West called Sailor gap.

    Does John Kerry read this blog, I would not be surprised.

    He does. In fact, he comments here as Tiny Duck.

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    Does John Kerry read this blog, I would not be surprised.
     
    He does. In fact, he comments here as Tiny Duck.
     
    Then Mark Potok must be Corvinus.
  49. Nothing that a modern-day Jenjish Khan can’t handle.

  50. @Almost Missouri

    "it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates"
     
    Most of the Africans I know use television and the internet to watch pornography. Will that lower birthrates?

    No, but we should be ramping USAID up to deliver food full of High Fructose Corn Syrup to the dark continent.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    >High Fructose Corn Syrup to the dark continent.

    Great idea but for the fact that libs would also bulk ship insulin and syringes thereto. Buy Big Pharma!
  51. @Edward
    Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration. The EU has been developing plan after plan to attempt to ‘curb’ African migration, from greater economic assistance to more free trade to holding centres in North Africa.

    However, the most ambitious proposal yet has come in the past couple of days from Germany’s minister for Africa, who called for ‘voluntary colonialism’ in which efficient, prosperous cities run by the EU or the World Bank are created in sub-Saharan Africa, to lure Africans away from the efficient, prosperous cities in Europe. Paul Romer’s call for foreign-run charter cities in dysfunctional countries returns.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-46017551

    “Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration.”

    Yeah, I noticed this too. Also Hillary.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/hillary-europe-must-curb-immigration-to-stop-rightwing-populists/#comment-2637140

    P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a “minister for Africa”?

    • Replies: @BB753
    "P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a “minister for Africa”?"

    Foresight?
    , @El Dato
    Because

    "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen."

    ("The World shall be healed by German Spirit", admittely that was in the 19th century, today Germany is a warning sign for the world)
    , @Desiderius
    The Scramble goes not to the swift.
    , @theo the kraut
    > P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a “minister for Africa”?

    We have thousands of inept and corrupt bureaucrats, but we don't have that, not yet. Where did you read this?

  52. @Almost Missouri

    "it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates"
     
    Most of the Africans I know use television and the internet to watch pornography. Will that lower birthrates?

    Yes ,we need to provide free porn to Africa. Easy access to porn is one reason American teens are less sexually active today than their parents and grandparents…teens were probably more sexually active 100 years ago than today.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Are we sure that this will work the same on Africans as it does on Eurasians?
    , @JMcG
    Were I a young woman who chanced to see some modern porn, I think I’d avoid sexual activity as long as possible.
  53. @Almost Missouri

    "Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration."
     
    Yeah, I noticed this too. Also Hillary.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/hillary-europe-must-curb-immigration-to-stop-rightwing-populists/#comment-2637140

    P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a "minister for Africa"?

    “P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a “minister for Africa”?”

    Foresight?

  54. @Buzz Mohawk
    Does anyone else detect a trend of Lefties beginning to notice African population growth as a threat and displacing it onto anything they can think of that they can blame on us, and not on Africans themselves?

    Does anyone else detect a trend of Lefties beginning to notice African population growth as a threat and displacing it onto anything they can think of that they can blame on us, and not on Africans themselves?

    One driver here is the optics. Americans–with our geographic good fortune to be on “the big island”–aren’t super worldly aware. For good whites, “diversity” conjures up images of pinatas or means more Chinese, Indian or Thai restaurants … only racists could objecct!

    But Americans are familiar with blacks. If “nation of immigrants” or “diversity” starts to conjure a mental picture of hordes of blacks streaming in, the lefties know that their gauzy platitudes will crystalize … and sink like a rock.

    And honestly the liberal elites don’t want that either. A big positive points of immigration for elites was to bring in stoop labor and household help that was cheaper and less obstreporous than blacks and to have the newcomers push out blacks and make cities safer. These people want to live in the new New York City, not Detroit.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    Anyone who lives near Somali refugee resettlement areas knows this all too well. The Somalis are as bad or worse than the native Blacks, and the native Blacks hate them.
  55. @Almost Missouri

    "Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration."
     
    Yeah, I noticed this too. Also Hillary.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/hillary-europe-must-curb-immigration-to-stop-rightwing-populists/#comment-2637140

    P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a "minister for Africa"?

    Because

    “Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen.”

    (“The World shall be healed by German Spirit”, admittely that was in the 19th century, today Germany is a warning sign for the world)


  56. John Kerry: Europe must tackle climate change or face migration chaos

    Americans tackle with their upper limbs, Europeans with their lower. So right from the start, we have a semantics problem here.

  57. @Harry Baldwin
    Does John Kerry read this blog, I would not be surprised.

    He does. In fact, he comments here as Tiny Duck.

    Does John Kerry read this blog, I would not be surprised.

    He does. In fact, he comments here as Tiny Duck.

    Then Mark Potok must be Corvinus.

  58. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed

    Lol.

    The Gods must be crazy!

  59. @Almost Missouri

    "Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration."
     
    Yeah, I noticed this too. Also Hillary.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/hillary-europe-must-curb-immigration-to-stop-rightwing-populists/#comment-2637140

    P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a "minister for Africa"?

    The Scramble goes not to the swift.

  60. @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa.
     
    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?

    “they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?”

    Close, but not quite. As Malthus made explicit, what restrains population growth is not generally famine (no food), it is chronic malnutrition (too little food). What happens is that women have trouble getting pregnant, they have trouble carrying a pregnancy to term, their breast milk dries up, and malnourished children readily die of diseases that better fed kids can shrug off.

    When people try to have more children than they can support, one way or the other the impossible does not happen. And at that point, because population is stabilized for lack of food, the average person is driven to the most miserable possible subsistence compatible with human life.

    This is the Malthusian catastrophe. It has happened many times in history. It is happening today in Pakistan and Bangladesh and India. And coming soon, it will be happening in Nigeria.

    And if we don’t start limiting immigration, it will be coming soon to a country you may be living in.

    • Replies: @Anonymuse
    Nonsense. Several game changing technologies are becoming practical and cheap. A Malthusian catastrophe is less likely now than ever before.
  61. “Just go read the literature”.

  62. No machine guns left in Europe? No helicopter gunships? No atomic bombs?

  63. @Stan d Mute

    Besides family planning, it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates.
     
    That’s a bleak assessment given it’s impossibility. Africans can’t keep a power grid working, can’t build or maintain water treatment and sanitation utilities, and many can’t produce enough surplus to afford to buy a television if they did have consistent electric service. As for education, I can’t say authoritatively whether Africans in Africa are educable, but all the evidence shows that Africans in Detriot are capable of around 50% literacy at best.

    Africans can’t keep a power grid working, can’t build or maintain water treatment and sanitation utilities, and many can’t produce enough surplus to afford to buy a television if they did have consistent electric service.

    Then send out-of-work actresses to Lagos and have them do stage shows of Sex And The City or Girls episodes. Nigeria’s official language is English. Get those chicks who used to be on those Disney Channel and Nickelodeon shows. They’re old enough now. I’m sure they’d be glad to be out of Trump’s America.

    Where’s my MacArthur grant?

  64. The idiocy of our current leadership class, it knows no bounds.

  65. If?

    It’s happening already.

    Mexicans began to pour into the US even when Mex population was 50 million.

  66. @Almost Missouri

    "it’s going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates"
     
    Most of the Africans I know use television and the internet to watch pornography. Will that lower birthrates?

    Wasn’t there a Swedish female legislator about 2 decades ago who wanted to show “erotica” on TV to increase the birthrate?

  67. @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa.
     
    Um, they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?

    How many millions or tens of millions will be allowed to enter and live in the U.S. so as not to starve to death?

  68. Is Kerry that stupid that he believes if the climate stayed exactly the same as it is today that Nigeria could support 500 million people? Yes, in some way, involving doublethink, he does believe that. He has transmorgified his racist worry over 500 million Nigerians into an approved worry over Global Warming. This is what the Left does.

  69. @Almost Missouri

    "It’s not absolute poverty driving African migration; it’s relative-to-Europe poverty."
     
    Indeed, it's African affluence. The migrants pay thousands of dollars to those people smugglers to get to Europe. Starving people can't afford that. Of course nowadays the leg of the trip across the Med is now subsidized by Europeans navies, and resettlement the final resettlement leg is subsidized by quaNGOs and taxpayers, so even the more affluent Africans aren't really paying full fare for their being smuggled.

    This migration strategy has all but ended due to Italy cracking down on these NGO vessels. They confiscated one Doctors without the Borders.

    A ship of migrants was “rescued” by Libyans and the migrants have thus far refused to disembark claiming they fear detention in Libya. The Libyans have threatened to remove them by force.

  70. For only $800 billion a decade … a pittance, really …. we could lay a massive grid of irrigation and desalination pipes all across the southern fringe of the Sahara and put an end to famine once and for all. Then, Nigeria would have plenty of room for 500 million people … and why not a few billion more? We’ll give the pipelaying work to a major multinational company so we can increase job growth both here and there. The bright new happy future in store for these billions of young new Africans will for sure put away all their plans to move north to Europe. Best of all, we can count on the everlasting gratitude of the world’s most vibrant cultures when they see how much good we’ve done for them.

    • LOL: Lowe
  71. @gate666
    africans in detroit do have low fertility rate.

    The Census bureau predicts that the African population in the USA will rise from itz current 43 million to about 60 million in 2060. That’s a lot of Africans.
    Can you imagine what would happen if abortion were outlawed!

  72. “Well, imagine what happens if water dries up and you cannot produce food in northern Africa. Imagine what happens if Nigeria hits its alleged 500 million people by the middle of the century

    They haven’t been able to produce food in Africa, or at least enough to feed themselves, for quite some time. Yet their populations have exploded because outsiders have provided it for them. These outsiders have been, and continue to be celebrated. Will there ever be a day when they viewed in a more critical light for their part in this looming crisis?

  73. @AnotherDad

    Does anyone else detect a trend of Lefties beginning to notice African population growth as a threat and displacing it onto anything they can think of that they can blame on us, and not on Africans themselves?
     
    One driver here is the optics. Americans--with our geographic good fortune to be on "the big island"--aren't super worldly aware. For good whites, "diversity" conjures up images of pinatas or means more Chinese, Indian or Thai restaurants ... only racists could objecct!

    But Americans are familiar with blacks. If "nation of immigrants" or "diversity" starts to conjure a mental picture of hordes of blacks streaming in, the lefties know that their gauzy platitudes will crystalize ... and sink like a rock.

    And honestly the liberal elites don't want that either. A big positive points of immigration for elites was to bring in stoop labor and household help that was cheaper and less obstreporous than blacks and to have the newcomers push out blacks and make cities safer. These people want to live in the new New York City, not Detroit.

    Anyone who lives near Somali refugee resettlement areas knows this all too well. The Somalis are as bad or worse than the native Blacks, and the native Blacks hate them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Just who *don't* 'native blacks' hate?

    From my perspective, in London, England, Somalis seem to me to be a more respectful, respectable and calm population than Carribean (west African) blacks.
  74. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed?

    Where is the electricity going to be mined and pumped from?

    • Replies: @blahbahblah
    @Seneca44

    Not oil. Even coal is less harmful to the environment than burning gasoline. It'll mostly be natural gas + nuclear(see small module reactors like nuscale) + solar + wind
    , @Anonymous
    Electric cars are nuclear cars, in the long run.

    Nuke plants are economical when they run constantly at design capacity, because the two major costs are capital and regulatory compliance. Electric cars charging at night greatly reduce "crest factor", the difference between the peak necessary power needed and that used continuously in a utility system.

    Crest factor is the difference between car and aircraft engines and between high fidelity audio equipment and PA or MI gear (or the modulators in old school AM transmitters).

    When people's transportation depends on cheap juice-both for charging the batteries and manufacturing them in the first place-antinuclear will have serious popular opposition for the first time.
  75. Global warming causes Africans to have lots of children? They’re right, I really don’t ‘understand’ global warming.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Global worming [sic] makes it easier to run around nekkid.
  76. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    Despite the feel good virtue signaling inherent in electric vehicles, their power does not arise de novo from the magic energy fairy. Hydroelectric and solar remain a drop in the bucket. Where does that leave us? In a place where lots of electricity is still generated by fossil fuels, just not by plants placed in areas populated by goodwhites.

  77. There is always the self preservation option, we ask them to refrain from crossing the med, if they don’t….we make them dead.

  78. @Achmed E. Newman

    Hordes” and “knocking on the door”, indeed. How dare he?
     
    At least he didn't write "hoards". That homonym confusion is a big one on the Survival Blogs, as you may well imagine.

    Due it right, people! Don't be a bunch of homo ...

    .
    .

    nym aggressors

    I see what you did there.

  79. @Cloudbuster
    what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed?

    Where is the electricity going to be mined and pumped from?

    Not oil. Even coal is less harmful to the environment than burning gasoline. It’ll mostly be natural gas + nuclear(see small module reactors like nuscale) + solar + wind

  80. @TG
    "they all die, and no 500 million people in Nigeria?"

    Close, but not quite. As Malthus made explicit, what restrains population growth is not generally famine (no food), it is chronic malnutrition (too little food). What happens is that women have trouble getting pregnant, they have trouble carrying a pregnancy to term, their breast milk dries up, and malnourished children readily die of diseases that better fed kids can shrug off.

    When people try to have more children than they can support, one way or the other the impossible does not happen. And at that point, because population is stabilized for lack of food, the average person is driven to the most miserable possible subsistence compatible with human life.

    This is the Malthusian catastrophe. It has happened many times in history. It is happening today in Pakistan and Bangladesh and India. And coming soon, it will be happening in Nigeria.

    And if we don't start limiting immigration, it will be coming soon to a country you may be living in.

    Nonsense. Several game changing technologies are becoming practical and cheap. A Malthusian catastrophe is less likely now than ever before.

  81. Anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @theMann
    The entire "African population bomb" analysis is rubbish from beginning to end. Africa isn't feeding its current population, not even close. In certainly won't feed a population X times larger. The only reason that the population is growing now, is because Western, mostly NGO's, but other agencies as well, are feeding what is in effect a continental charity case.

    Stop feeding the charity case, the population snaps back to what is supportable locally. Ugly and brutal, but then they are already having infant Ebola outbreaks, and that isn't going to get better with increased local population pressure. The more so since, while you can feed Third Worlders, you can't teach them anything related to sanitation. (As an aside, this is why the Muslim world is at least a cousin to the Western world. Muslim cities are clean, orderly, and generally up to standards, whereas, for instance, a Hindu Indian city is just as sh!t covered as San Francisco.)

    Making the Black Race everywhere stand on its on feet and own productivity - my God, what if that idea caught on?

    Muslim cities are clean, orderly

    Maybe those with bunch of petrodollars to pay western/Chinese engineers to organize street cleaning. And i guess Levant to certain level, but other than that, yikes. Ever being to Morocco, or Cairo? Plus Pakis and a lot of Indians, nice chunk of blacks are Mohamedans.

  82. “but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed”

    Lol have you ever studied physics? I’m guessing that more oil fired power plants will be built to charge all I those high capacity batteries. Energy cannot be created or destroyed.

    • Replies: @blahbahblah

    Lol have you ever studied physics? I’m guessing that more oil fired power plants will be built to charge all I those high capacity batteries. Energy cannot be created or destroyed.

     

    Who is going to build these oil fired power plants? Not the US, Canada, EU, Russia, India or China.
  83. John Kerry is an idiot and you lot here constantly junk your IQ once Black people are involved.

    In the event of catastrophic climate change, the first major threats to Europe won’t be from Sub-Saharan Africa–hint: Sahara. It will be from the Mediterranean countries, Egypt and the already boiling M/E in particular.

    If I recall correctly, there is a correlation between higher food prices and revolts in the M/E.

    In the event of said catastrophe messing up global food delivery chains, the greater threats to America will, as usual, come from central America and the Pacific.

    You people seem to forget that Pakistan, India and China are all nuclear-armed States living in environmentally fragile countries.

    Things like these are why I loathe the useful idiots who mouth Western Liberal pieties in the hopes of a seat at the table. Actual measurable power and not grievance points are the only things that matter. SMH.

    P.S All of you who both complain of your culture’s decadence and want to export it are the sorts of idiots who bargain with the tiger about to attack them. FFS never ally with the enemy.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
    'John Kerry is an idiot and you lot here constantly junk your IQ once Black people are involved."


    don't be nice and circumvent the truth NN! the are all bloody racist, totally nasty-minded and murderous, genocidal when it comes to Black people. as a Nigerian do not forget that, look at john kerry. as sec of state look at how he was compared to what he says now?

    Kerry is disgusting and genocidal. what the hell is he setting the stage for now..the murder of africans?

    Real African independence eliminates western european rape of the continent. maybe kerry and his cohort would rather kill africa than lose their control of it ..their freedom to plunder the continent.

    appeasing these racist fools on this blog wont help at all. it is the truth or nothing man. to appease them is only to make them feel stronger in their racism to come at us. that is what they are. they are enraged that Black people even have the freedom to reproduce. they are enraged that Black people are all over the planet in excelsis with much much more to come

    that is why they get stupid when they speak of Black people and of Africa. its their rage turning their minds inside out.

    who the hell is John kerry to tell Nigeria how many to people to have anyway,. go on man have a billion. its none of his damm business. to hell with Kerry and whoever else

  84. @CK
    It is getting colder and colder … the climate change that is coming is global cooling. It is a solution just not an attractive one.

    I agree, The the next 50 years will be much colder due to the Sun cycles which are getting weaker.

  85. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Global warming causes Africans to have lots of children? They're right, I really don't 'understand' global warming.

    Global worming [sic] makes it easier to run around nekkid.

  86. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloudbuster
    what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed?

    Where is the electricity going to be mined and pumped from?

    Electric cars are nuclear cars, in the long run.

    Nuke plants are economical when they run constantly at design capacity, because the two major costs are capital and regulatory compliance. Electric cars charging at night greatly reduce “crest factor”, the difference between the peak necessary power needed and that used continuously in a utility system.

    Crest factor is the difference between car and aircraft engines and between high fidelity audio equipment and PA or MI gear (or the modulators in old school AM transmitters).

    When people’s transportation depends on cheap juice-both for charging the batteries and manufacturing them in the first place-antinuclear will have serious popular opposition for the first time.

  87. @Prodigal son
    Yes ,we need to provide free porn to Africa. Easy access to porn is one reason American teens are less sexually active today than their parents and grandparents...teens were probably more sexually active 100 years ago than today.

    Are we sure that this will work the same on Africans as it does on Eurasians?

    • Replies: @Lowe
    No, we're not sure of that, because we're not even sure the effect of pornography on Eurasians is what he says.

    Maybe Asians like Chinese don't reproduce because their countries are relatively full, and Americans/Euros don't reproduce because their gov'ts are oppressing them through their many anti-White policies.
  88. @CK
    It is getting colder and colder … the climate change that is coming is global cooling. It is a solution just not an attractive one.

    Good grief, if it’s global cooling, to counteract that it seems obvious we need to burn more fossil fuels. Breakout more oil rigs before it’s too late.

  89. @Anonymous
    Well, London, England is already known amongst the cognoscenti as Londonistan.

    Yes, but can you get some deep fried Congolese? I’ve got a hankering …

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, but can you get some deep fried Congolese? I’ve got a hankering …
     
    Congolese, Congoloid...
  90. @Kyle
    “but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed”

    Lol have you ever studied physics? I’m guessing that more oil fired power plants will be built to charge all I those high capacity batteries. Energy cannot be created or destroyed.

    Lol have you ever studied physics? I’m guessing that more oil fired power plants will be built to charge all I those high capacity batteries. Energy cannot be created or destroyed.

    Who is going to build these oil fired power plants? Not the US, Canada, EU, Russia, India or China.

  91. @niteranger
    Kerry like Obama and the rest of Idiots of the World don't get it: Over Population is what drives the carbon footprint, ecological footprint and pollution footprint of the world. Africa will cause the collapse of most of the world through disease, ignorance and stupidity. There is no Magic Dirt. The initial input into the system population drives every cycle. The Mickey Mouse game plan that's all we have to do is this simple Paris Accord (non binding) is total mental masturbation.

    It's called birth control Kerry...you fucking idiot because system is not static every person is a new carbon footprint!

    Send in the Clowns.....don't bother they are here!

    oh my god! why the fuck does the western european white man not get the fuck out of Africa and leave Africans the alone man.!!!

    the Man has been all over Africa for 4 centuries now… ripping it off, bad mouthing it, killing Africans enslaving, colonizing, stealing land, gold, diamonds, platinum, food, lots and lots of food.

    the western euro white man has screwed Africa royally, gotten rich off Africa and now is running his mouth all over africans. now a disgusting Obamite like Kerry opens up his rotten mouth to bad mouth Africans again. does Obama endorse this nonsense too. no doubt!

    entities like niteranger are amazing indeed, the western euro white man has screwed planet earth and we almost have no where to live anymore and nowhere to go. and he calls Africans stupid. oh mi god!

    just get the western euro white man out of Africa, the caribbean, latin america, confine his arse to the borders of western europe and lets see how great he is. he will have to find food and all he needs in europe.

    interesting! give that man his real challenge once again..back to europe and confine him there… so the world can regain some common sense, intelligence and peace again

    • Replies: @niteranger
    You are clueless. What did the "African Man" do before the white man arrived? You have a child's understanding of the history of the world. Why don't you blame the Muslims the greatest slave traders of all time. How about the Jews who financed much of it to the West. Africa is what it is because their so called tribal leaders and governments are so corrupt they sold their people out just like they do in this country----- for example Mugabe!

    They raped, murdered, and sold each other into slavery. That's their history. They weren't ecological little hobbits. The only reason they didn't do this to anyone outside of Africa was because they weren't smart enough to build a dam boat! They know how to do one thing ---reproduce. They refuse to be taught about birth control, disease prevention and civility. They continual spread disease like Ebola because they won't listen to the doctors.

    Now the Chinese are in Africa building it an infrastructure and taking control monetarily . You forgot to mention them, and they could care less about people like you and the political correct creatures of the world because they will really show you what colonialism is about compared to the white man.
    , @Anonymous
    Absolutely.

    I agree with you 1000%.

    All I ask is this:

    Let's call all enmities quits from this time hence, and start on a clean sheet. In return for an absolute, binding non interference commitment from the European states, just one condition from Africans is requested - An equivalent, reciprical non interference commitment from Africans not to interfere with Europe.
    , @Anonymous
    Don't you have bushmeat to eat and ebola to attend to?
    , @NZLex
    The "white man's burden" is proving remarkably hard to throw off - despite the seeming agony of carrying it... it will take many decades (or longer) to fully appreciate this reality. The truth is that certain people NEED black people to be stupid, or their entire supply chain grinds to a halt - but my belief is that intelligence is generally similar throughout humanity, and is not necessarily the most vital element in any society or country. I fear the interference in Africa will never end, though - nor will the African people cease to travel around the world for one or another reason.
  92. @Almost Missouri

    "Macron, Gates, the New York Times and now Kerry. It looks like the technocrats are seriously worried about sub-Saharan African migration."
     
    Yeah, I noticed this too. Also Hillary.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/hillary-europe-must-curb-immigration-to-stop-rightwing-populists/#comment-2637140

    P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a "minister for Africa"?

    > P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a “minister for Africa”?

    We have thousands of inept and corrupt bureaucrats, but we don’t have that, not yet. Where did you read this?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    In Edward's comment I was replying to.

    I think he means Günter Nooke, who does indeed seem to be some kind of de facto minister for Africa.
    , @Yngvar
    It's in the link that commentator Edward provided: Germany's Minister for Africa, Günter Nooke, told the BBC...
    Can't be arsed to look it up but they probably really mean something like 'Section Chief for the Vice Minister of the Department for Development Aid'. Every civilized nation got one of those.
  93. @blahbahblah
    What needs to be emphasized the most is that high African fertility causes a lot of pain and suffering for Africans. It's impossible to get ahead when you have so many children. The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa. The republican executive order figleaf they give out is just stupid.

    People talk about climate change causing disruptions leading towards migration... but what happens when everyone switches to electric vehicles and oil is no longer needed? Nigeria gets 70% of their governing budget from oil. Talk about a convergence of catastrophes.

    Besides family planning, it's going to take education and modern distractions like television and the internet to lower birthrates. Really, those are the major things will help lower african fertility.

    The pro-life groups needs to be told to STFU when it comes to family planning in Africa.

    If you want to pay for their “family planning”, reach into your own pocket. Not mine.

    They already are planning their families. To be large.

    What you really mean is you want to plan for them.

  94. @Achmed E. Newman
    Yes, but can you get some deep fried Congolese? I've got a hankering ...

    Yes, but can you get some deep fried Congolese? I’ve got a hankering …

    Congolese, Congoloid…

    • Replies: @JMcG
    Congoleum! That’s it!
  95. @Nigerian Nationalist
    John Kerry is an idiot and you lot here constantly junk your IQ once Black people are involved.

    In the event of catastrophic climate change, the first major threats to Europe won't be from Sub-Saharan Africa--hint: Sahara. It will be from the Mediterranean countries, Egypt and the already boiling M/E in particular.

    If I recall correctly, there is a correlation between higher food prices and revolts in the M/E.

    In the event of said catastrophe messing up global food delivery chains, the greater threats to America will, as usual, come from central America and the Pacific.

    You people seem to forget that Pakistan, India and China are all nuclear-armed States living in environmentally fragile countries.

    Things like these are why I loathe the useful idiots who mouth Western Liberal pieties in the hopes of a seat at the table. Actual measurable power and not grievance points are the only things that matter. SMH.

    P.S All of you who both complain of your culture's decadence and want to export it are the sorts of idiots who bargain with the tiger about to attack them. FFS never ally with the enemy.

    ‘John Kerry is an idiot and you lot here constantly junk your IQ once Black people are involved.”

    don’t be nice and circumvent the truth NN! the are all bloody racist, totally nasty-minded and murderous, genocidal when it comes to Black people. as a Nigerian do not forget that, look at john kerry. as sec of state look at how he was compared to what he says now?

    Kerry is disgusting and genocidal. what the hell is he setting the stage for now..the murder of africans?

    Real African independence eliminates western european rape of the continent. maybe kerry and his cohort would rather kill africa than lose their control of it ..their freedom to plunder the continent.

    appeasing these racist fools on this blog wont help at all. it is the truth or nothing man. to appease them is only to make them feel stronger in their racism to come at us. that is what they are. they are enraged that Black people even have the freedom to reproduce. they are enraged that Black people are all over the planet in excelsis with much much more to come

    that is why they get stupid when they speak of Black people and of Africa. its their rage turning their minds inside out.

    who the hell is John kerry to tell Nigeria how many to people to have anyway,. go on man have a billion. its none of his damm business. to hell with Kerry and whoever else

  96. Nigeria wont have a billion people..not even 500 billion. and if Nigeria does have 500 million people there is the room there for them. Nigeria has all the resources it needs to carry whatever population it develops.

    the problem with Nigeria and all of Africa, and the world is the rapacious economic system,…usury capitalism …that dominates the world, out of Europe. that is the problem on planet earth. that is the nature of the relationship europe developed with Africa..social and material continental rape.

    if in cooperation with Chinese investment Africa can get out of the economic clutches of europe and develop material prosperity for its people, population increase in a few short decades will hardly be a problem. its opposite could quite well be the reality instead t.of population decline in material prosperity..just like it happened in europe.

    John Kerry is no fool. he knows the world. and if he does not he is a man of authority and has at his beck and call all the expertise he needs to supply him with all the information possible on all issues he must comment on to ensure that a man of his person does not embarrass himself..and even more importantly that he hews to the american line and imperial interest in the world. which is precisely the case.

    if John Kerry said what he is reported to have said and he is wrong and foolish he knows that..knew it before he said it. Kerry was intentionally wrong and for a purpose..an american purpose, for again..as a former american sec of state, when he speaks he can only be speaking for america and its interest in the world… in the interest of the elite that controls america.

    that is what we must do..find out what Kerry actually meant by what he said..what is he setting the stage for with such a terrifically inaccurate and inflammatory statement..that he must know himself to be inaccurate and inflammatory

  97. @Ben Sampson
    oh my god! why the fuck does the western european white man not get the fuck out of Africa and leave Africans the alone man.!!!


    the Man has been all over Africa for 4 centuries now... ripping it off, bad mouthing it, killing Africans enslaving, colonizing, stealing land, gold, diamonds, platinum, food, lots and lots of food.


    the western euro white man has screwed Africa royally, gotten rich off Africa and now is running his mouth all over africans. now a disgusting Obamite like Kerry opens up his rotten mouth to bad mouth Africans again. does Obama endorse this nonsense too. no doubt!

    entities like niteranger are amazing indeed, the western euro white man has screwed planet earth and we almost have no where to live anymore and nowhere to go. and he calls Africans stupid. oh mi god!

    just get the western euro white man out of Africa, the caribbean, latin america, confine his arse to the borders of western europe and lets see how great he is. he will have to find food and all he needs in europe.

    interesting! give that man his real challenge once again..back to europe and confine him there... so the world can regain some common sense, intelligence and peace again

    You are clueless. What did the “African Man” do before the white man arrived? You have a child’s understanding of the history of the world. Why don’t you blame the Muslims the greatest slave traders of all time. How about the Jews who financed much of it to the West. Africa is what it is because their so called tribal leaders and governments are so corrupt they sold their people out just like they do in this country—– for example Mugabe!

    They raped, murdered, and sold each other into slavery. That’s their history. They weren’t ecological little hobbits. The only reason they didn’t do this to anyone outside of Africa was because they weren’t smart enough to build a dam boat! They know how to do one thing —reproduce. They refuse to be taught about birth control, disease prevention and civility. They continual spread disease like Ebola because they won’t listen to the doctors.

    Now the Chinese are in Africa building it an infrastructure and taking control monetarily . You forgot to mention them, and they could care less about people like you and the political correct creatures of the world because they will really show you what colonialism is about compared to the white man.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
    here niteranger..you revolutionary racist western european to your heart you..take this: this is what I have lived, therefore what I know..not read as written by any one save Michael Hudson whom I will mention a lil' later

    I can understand your interest for an intellectual angle but Africa is not your responsibility, never was. it is you in there with you rape.

    look at it..rape from start to now..forced debt, control of central banks lending the people back their own money at interest, word bank and IMF financial police, genocidal austerity economic programs, constant manipulation a d regime change to ensure the most nasty traitorous african governments always in place

    the list is endless: bad advice forced onto african nations from your 'experts' under the bad governments you have forced into place. you run the friggin stinking UN and they poison Africa. under the WHO we have AIDS, Ebola, west Nile all manner of engineered diseases cutting up Africans, all of those things did not originate in China but the USA and its european satrapies

    just look at the bahavior of John Kerry right now as example of who you are. and Kerry is one of your best..a 'citizen'

    man take your hypocrisy and flush the toilet. jump in after your hypocrisy reach up and flush again. that is where you and your nonsense ought to be.

    Africa is the origin of everything human anyway. you are the thief who stole africa, still stealing it still right now. and you have made the whole world into thieves with your stinking capitalism and usury.

    all that you are culturally was originally African but you did not take african culture to make a positive use of, but to turn it back into the psyops to poison the minds of the whole world to control and rape and poison the planet.

    so who poisoned the planet and continues to do so...Africans?

    look at your Jesus Christ nonsense! you turn a perfect revolutionary narrative, of an ordinary man who fought the money changers, of his time, into a son of an non existent god in the sky, sent to earth to be sacrificed for the sins of humanity...a son who was resurrected from death as an example for all of us to follow, him and his life, to be resurrected also in time ourselves.

    and from a revolutionary Jesus was turned into a an obedient turning the other cheek sap, who promises human reward in heaven, for giving unto usurer all we have in life, to work for him obediently all your life, give unto him you wife and children..the boys to be slaves in the fields,,the females to be slaves in his bed. and you must die a slave, noble by your very slavery on which god in the sky looks down on with love and appreciation..your enslavement.

    look at the human emotional carnage and intellectual confusion, mass murders and general loss of life, human misfocus and waste of energy and time, extremism of all sorts..and most of all blood! Blood! Blood....flowing profusely every generation for thousands of years ever since the creation and disbursement of that shit has inflicted on the world! generated in the world!!!!!! incalculable.

    Europe did that to humanity..and so much more. western europe has been a cloud of evil hanging over the human species. humanity is at the edge of extinction because of the greed and utter stupidity of western europe. and niteranger has the gall to call Africans stupid.

    we are are stupid all right because in our vast majority we simply could not respond to western europe clearly as niteranger expected us to respond..with the same stupidity. had we don so and turned ourselves into another flow of european development the human species would prolly have blown itself to bits already

    and as with Jesus, same with the bible: turned into a sexually driven atrocious piece of misleading trash: world wars organized to smash what has been built up, and to massively reduce global population...then to rebuild on debt and massive, never ending interest charges..along with opportunity to increase control of humanity in the aftermath of war, in the social disaster afterwards

    and now beset by the same periodic global capitalist crisis, the western european white man is fighting to do the same thing again..to create massive human depopulation and physical destruction of infrastructure around the world...and to complete the cycle with another Marshall Plan.. this time for the world

    but this time the Russians and Chinese wont play because they know the betrayal in european heart is going to make them victims at some point. it is plot to destroy them too, and to reduce them to vassals once again, from the competitive reality they are.

    the Russians and Chinese are overtaking european replacing europe as the power in the world and they will not let up. they know europe and whats in store for everyone if europe prevails. the existential horror of europeans, backed by advanced science and technology predated on the human species is going to be a true, unfathomable, sight to behold. if there is god he would have to come down or hide his eye, and block his mind, at the horror that looms for the human species under euro hegemony armed with advanced technology

    and that is a good thing..a very good thing for the human species. the Russian and Chinese do not have the european historical pedigree in the world. we can compare both over several thousands of years and while Europe's is horrific others are not nearly as extreme as the western european white man.

    it is time for the western european white man to be confined to his own original boarders and kept there until he becomes human, until he understands truth and nature and does not want to , or feel the need to own and consume all that exists..to poison the planet: to want to fuck everything that exists: boys and men, the animals of the fields: women and children -his mother sister daughter and son

    thats europe..nasty, barbarous, genocidal, utterly dangerous to human existence..replete with all the human emotional ills...ego and vengeance in particular: like the ashkanaze Jews holding death grudges for millennia that they are determined to repay full and complete..like the one they hold against Russians from the days when the Russians betrayed the Khazars to the byzantines.

    greed, war, conquest, exploitation, human superiority over other humans..that is all europe knows.

    the North and South Koreans are tired of their division, desire powerfully to re-unite their nation and live in the world and are doing all in their power to achieve this goal under the white western european american man who does not want this to take place..even after almost 80 years of the same hostile shit going on and on...

    don't you guys get tired of war, tired of hostile division of peoples everywhere!!!!?????

    the Korean people are tired to death of their hostile division and want to end it. get the western european man out of there, send him him home so the Korean people can organize their peace and live

  98. @Almost Missouri
    Are we sure that this will work the same on Africans as it does on Eurasians?

    No, we’re not sure of that, because we’re not even sure the effect of pornography on Eurasians is what he says.

    Maybe Asians like Chinese don’t reproduce because their countries are relatively full, and Americans/Euros don’t reproduce because their gov’ts are oppressing them through their many anti-White policies.

  99. @Cloudbuster
    Anyone who lives near Somali refugee resettlement areas knows this all too well. The Somalis are as bad or worse than the native Blacks, and the native Blacks hate them.

    Just who *don’t* ‘native blacks’ hate?

    From my perspective, in London, England, Somalis seem to me to be a more respectful, respectable and calm population than Carribean (west African) blacks.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman

    Somalis seem to me to be a more respectful, respectable and calm population than Carribean (west African) blacks
     
    Try telling that to White (Real) Estate Agencies. In Britain Somalis are only preferable to Caribbean Blacks in the same way that Malaria is preferable to Ebola.
  100. Anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben Sampson
    oh my god! why the fuck does the western european white man not get the fuck out of Africa and leave Africans the alone man.!!!


    the Man has been all over Africa for 4 centuries now... ripping it off, bad mouthing it, killing Africans enslaving, colonizing, stealing land, gold, diamonds, platinum, food, lots and lots of food.


    the western euro white man has screwed Africa royally, gotten rich off Africa and now is running his mouth all over africans. now a disgusting Obamite like Kerry opens up his rotten mouth to bad mouth Africans again. does Obama endorse this nonsense too. no doubt!

    entities like niteranger are amazing indeed, the western euro white man has screwed planet earth and we almost have no where to live anymore and nowhere to go. and he calls Africans stupid. oh mi god!

    just get the western euro white man out of Africa, the caribbean, latin america, confine his arse to the borders of western europe and lets see how great he is. he will have to find food and all he needs in europe.

    interesting! give that man his real challenge once again..back to europe and confine him there... so the world can regain some common sense, intelligence and peace again

    Absolutely.

    I agree with you 1000%.

    All I ask is this:

    Let’s call all enmities quits from this time hence, and start on a clean sheet. In return for an absolute, binding non interference commitment from the European states, just one condition from Africans is requested – An equivalent, reciprical non interference commitment from Africans not to interfere with Europe.

  101. @Ben Sampson
    oh my god! why the fuck does the western european white man not get the fuck out of Africa and leave Africans the alone man.!!!


    the Man has been all over Africa for 4 centuries now... ripping it off, bad mouthing it, killing Africans enslaving, colonizing, stealing land, gold, diamonds, platinum, food, lots and lots of food.


    the western euro white man has screwed Africa royally, gotten rich off Africa and now is running his mouth all over africans. now a disgusting Obamite like Kerry opens up his rotten mouth to bad mouth Africans again. does Obama endorse this nonsense too. no doubt!

    entities like niteranger are amazing indeed, the western euro white man has screwed planet earth and we almost have no where to live anymore and nowhere to go. and he calls Africans stupid. oh mi god!

    just get the western euro white man out of Africa, the caribbean, latin america, confine his arse to the borders of western europe and lets see how great he is. he will have to find food and all he needs in europe.

    interesting! give that man his real challenge once again..back to europe and confine him there... so the world can regain some common sense, intelligence and peace again

    Don’t you have bushmeat to eat and ebola to attend to?

  102. ‘John Kerry is an idiot and you lot here constantly junk your IQ once Black people are involved.”

    don’t be nice and circumvent the truth NN! the are all bloody racist, totally nasty-minded and murderous, genocidal when it comes to Black people. as a Nigerian do not forget that, look at john kerry. as sec of state look at how he was compared to what he says now?

    Kerry is disgusting and genocidal. what the hell is he setting the stage for now..the murder of africans?

    Real African independence eliminates western european rape of the continent. maybe kerry and his cohort would rather kill africa than lose their control of it ..their freedom to plunder the continent.

    appeasing these racist fools on this blog wont help at all. it is the truth not nothing man. to appease them is only to make them feel stronger in their racism to come at us. that is what they are. they are enraged that Black people even have the freedom to reproduce. they are enraged that Black people are all over the planet in excelsis with much much more to come

    that is why they get stupid when they speak of Black people and of Africa. its rage turning their minds inside out.

    who the hell is John kerry to tell Nigeria how many to people to have anyway,. go on man have a billion. to hell with Kerry

  103. @niteranger
    You are clueless. What did the "African Man" do before the white man arrived? You have a child's understanding of the history of the world. Why don't you blame the Muslims the greatest slave traders of all time. How about the Jews who financed much of it to the West. Africa is what it is because their so called tribal leaders and governments are so corrupt they sold their people out just like they do in this country----- for example Mugabe!

    They raped, murdered, and sold each other into slavery. That's their history. They weren't ecological little hobbits. The only reason they didn't do this to anyone outside of Africa was because they weren't smart enough to build a dam boat! They know how to do one thing ---reproduce. They refuse to be taught about birth control, disease prevention and civility. They continual spread disease like Ebola because they won't listen to the doctors.

    Now the Chinese are in Africa building it an infrastructure and taking control monetarily . You forgot to mention them, and they could care less about people like you and the political correct creatures of the world because they will really show you what colonialism is about compared to the white man.

    here niteranger..you revolutionary racist western european to your heart you..take this: this is what I have lived, therefore what I know..not read as written by any one save Michael Hudson whom I will mention a lil’ later

    I can understand your interest for an intellectual angle but Africa is not your responsibility, never was. it is you in there with you rape.

    look at it..rape from start to now..forced debt, control of central banks lending the people back their own money at interest, word bank and IMF financial police, genocidal austerity economic programs, constant manipulation a d regime change to ensure the most nasty traitorous african governments always in place

    the list is endless: bad advice forced onto african nations from your ‘experts’ under the bad governments you have forced into place. you run the friggin stinking UN and they poison Africa. under the WHO we have AIDS, Ebola, west Nile all manner of engineered diseases cutting up Africans, all of those things did not originate in China but the USA and its european satrapies

    just look at the bahavior of John Kerry right now as example of who you are. and Kerry is one of your best..a ‘citizen’

    man take your hypocrisy and flush the toilet. jump in after your hypocrisy reach up and flush again. that is where you and your nonsense ought to be.

    Africa is the origin of everything human anyway. you are the thief who stole africa, still stealing it still right now. and you have made the whole world into thieves with your stinking capitalism and usury.

    all that you are culturally was originally African but you did not take african culture to make a positive use of, but to turn it back into the psyops to poison the minds of the whole world to control and rape and poison the planet.

    so who poisoned the planet and continues to do so…Africans?

    look at your Jesus Christ nonsense! you turn a perfect revolutionary narrative, of an ordinary man who fought the money changers, of his time, into a son of an non existent god in the sky, sent to earth to be sacrificed for the sins of humanity…a son who was resurrected from death as an example for all of us to follow, him and his life, to be resurrected also in time ourselves.

    and from a revolutionary Jesus was turned into a an obedient turning the other cheek sap, who promises human reward in heaven, for giving unto usurer all we have in life, to work for him obediently all your life, give unto him you wife and children..the boys to be slaves in the fields,,the females to be slaves in his bed. and you must die a slave, noble by your very slavery on which god in the sky looks down on with love and appreciation..your enslavement.

    look at the human emotional carnage and intellectual confusion, mass murders and general loss of life, human misfocus and waste of energy and time, extremism of all sorts..and most of all blood! Blood! Blood….flowing profusely every generation for thousands of years ever since the creation and disbursement of that shit has inflicted on the world! generated in the world!!!!!! incalculable.

    Europe did that to humanity..and so much more. western europe has been a cloud of evil hanging over the human species. humanity is at the edge of extinction because of the greed and utter stupidity of western europe. and niteranger has the gall to call Africans stupid.

    we are are stupid all right because in our vast majority we simply could not respond to western europe clearly as niteranger expected us to respond..with the same stupidity. had we don so and turned ourselves into another flow of european development the human species would prolly have blown itself to bits already

    and as with Jesus, same with the bible: turned into a sexually driven atrocious piece of misleading trash: world wars organized to smash what has been built up, and to massively reduce global population…then to rebuild on debt and massive, never ending interest charges..along with opportunity to increase control of humanity in the aftermath of war, in the social disaster afterwards

    and now beset by the same periodic global capitalist crisis, the western european white man is fighting to do the same thing again..to create massive human depopulation and physical destruction of infrastructure around the world…and to complete the cycle with another Marshall Plan.. this time for the world

    but this time the Russians and Chinese wont play because they know the betrayal in european heart is going to make them victims at some point. it is plot to destroy them too, and to reduce them to vassals once again, from the competitive reality they are.

    the Russians and Chinese are overtaking european replacing europe as the power in the world and they will not let up. they know europe and whats in store for everyone if europe prevails. the existential horror of europeans, backed by advanced science and technology predated on the human species is going to be a true, unfathomable, sight to behold. if there is god he would have to come down or hide his eye, and block his mind, at the horror that looms for the human species under euro hegemony armed with advanced technology

    and that is a good thing..a very good thing for the human species. the Russian and Chinese do not have the european historical pedigree in the world. we can compare both over several thousands of years and while Europe’s is horrific others are not nearly as extreme as the western european white man.

    it is time for the western european white man to be confined to his own original boarders and kept there until he becomes human, until he understands truth and nature and does not want to , or feel the need to own and consume all that exists..to poison the planet: to want to fuck everything that exists: boys and men, the animals of the fields: women and children -his mother sister daughter and son

    thats europe..nasty, barbarous, genocidal, utterly dangerous to human existence..replete with all the human emotional ills…ego and vengeance in particular: like the ashkanaze Jews holding death grudges for millennia that they are determined to repay full and complete..like the one they hold against Russians from the days when the Russians betrayed the Khazars to the byzantines.

    greed, war, conquest, exploitation, human superiority over other humans..that is all europe knows.

    the North and South Koreans are tired of their division, desire powerfully to re-unite their nation and live in the world and are doing all in their power to achieve this goal under the white western european american man who does not want this to take place..even after almost 80 years of the same hostile shit going on and on…

    don’t you guys get tired of war, tired of hostile division of peoples everywhere!!!!?????

    the Korean people are tired to death of their hostile division and want to end it. get the western european man out of there, send him him home so the Korean people can organize their peace and live

    • Replies: @BB753
    "the Russians and Chinese are overtaking european replacing europe as the power in the world and they will not let up. they know europe and whats in store for everyone if europe prevails. the existential horror of europeans, backed by advanced science and technology predated on the human species is going to be a true, unfathomable, sight to behold"

    Amusing rant! I hope you know that Russians are Europeans too, and that the Chinese hold Africans in utter contempt.
  104. I don’t know but my pc is misfiring on this page

    but for anonymous who wanted an agreement from me to leave europe alone if africa leaves europe alone . I agree where I have total control..over myself.

    I have never been to western europe, never had a desire to go there, for any reason at all. there is nothing there I want to see.

    and I can guarantee you anonymous that short of power beyond my control I will never go to europe.

    I want Europe, white people, out of Africa as a people of power having exploited africa unconscionably for centuries: that must end now.

    but ordinary people forever find common ground across, around, through and over any dam thing at all in their way. there is no way to deny those who wish to relate from doing so.

    over that I have no power, wish none and seek none. I am not stupid and unnecessary like euros wanting to control everything..even going as far as engineering humans in effort to assure social control.

    europe must sort itself out in effort to humanize itself. ordinary interaction between peoples can help such a process. but europeans must realize they are not superior at all but very very sick people emotionally and seek healing.

    europe has made the world sick like itself and I guess in our collective self interest we have a responsibility to heal europe in healing ourselves from the euro derived emotional tsunami in the world

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    No.

    I was - rather pompously - not speaking as myself, but as an ideal of intelligent, humane and sensible official policy, which, of course will never ever be implemented precisely it is intelligent, humane and sensible.
    , @Anonymous
    IMHO from the very first contact, the experience of black Africans with white Europeans has been a cosmic disaster.

    Likewise, the contact of white Europeans with black Africans has equally been a cosmic disaster.

    - The simple solution is to try to limit all contacts to the barest possible minimum.
    , @dr kill
    Dear Ben, please try and keep our old home place neat and clean for a few thousand years. I'll be home when the next Ice Age reaches Atlanta.
  105. I wish those millions of Africans would be sent to Martha’s Vineyard or wherever that POS John Kerry lives.

  106. @The Alarmist
    No, but we should be ramping USAID up to deliver food full of High Fructose Corn Syrup to the dark continent.

    >High Fructose Corn Syrup to the dark continent.

    Great idea but for the fact that libs would also bulk ship insulin and syringes thereto. Buy Big Pharma!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    No worries ... Insulin does more damage than the HFCS.
  107. “The story populists sell is very loosely related to facts,” said Gerald Knaus, a migration expert who is the founding chairman of the European Stability Initiative, a Berlin-based research group.

    And if you can’t trust a Soros-supported activist unit to be objective about third-world migration who can you trust?

  108. I am more worried about the African immigrants drink the Rhine and the Danube dry.

  109. @theo the kraut
    > P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a “minister for Africa”?

    We have thousands of inept and corrupt bureaucrats, but we don't have that, not yet. Where did you read this?

    In Edward‘s comment I was replying to.

    I think he means Günter Nooke, who does indeed seem to be some kind of de facto minister for Africa.

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    True dat, didn't think of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Günter_Nooke
  110. To Ben Sampson and Nigerian Nationalist, filtered migration from Nigeria can be ok but Nigerians don’t exactly have a great reputation even in other African countries. Nigerians are heavily involved in sex trafficking, drug dealing, and all around general scamming.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Nigerians-hated-so-much-around-the-world

    https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Nigerians-hated-by-so-many-nations-especially-South-Africans

  111. @Anonymous
    Just who *don't* 'native blacks' hate?

    From my perspective, in London, England, Somalis seem to me to be a more respectful, respectable and calm population than Carribean (west African) blacks.

    Somalis seem to me to be a more respectful, respectable and calm population than Carribean (west African) blacks

    Try telling that to White (Real) Estate Agencies. In Britain Somalis are only preferable to Caribbean Blacks in the same way that Malaria is preferable to Ebola.

  112. @Ben Sampson
    I don't know but my pc is misfiring on this page

    but for anonymous who wanted an agreement from me to leave europe alone if africa leaves europe alone . I agree where I have total control..over myself.

    I have never been to western europe, never had a desire to go there, for any reason at all. there is nothing there I want to see.

    and I can guarantee you anonymous that short of power beyond my control I will never go to europe.

    I want Europe, white people, out of Africa as a people of power having exploited africa unconscionably for centuries: that must end now.

    but ordinary people forever find common ground across, around, through and over any dam thing at all in their way. there is no way to deny those who wish to relate from doing so.

    over that I have no power, wish none and seek none. I am not stupid and unnecessary like euros wanting to control everything..even going as far as engineering humans in effort to assure social control.

    europe must sort itself out in effort to humanize itself. ordinary interaction between peoples can help such a process. but europeans must realize they are not superior at all but very very sick people emotionally and seek healing.

    europe has made the world sick like itself and I guess in our collective self interest we have a responsibility to heal europe in healing ourselves from the euro derived emotional tsunami in the world

    No.

    I was – rather pompously – not speaking as myself, but as an ideal of intelligent, humane and sensible official policy, which, of course will never ever be implemented precisely it is intelligent, humane and sensible.

  113. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben Sampson
    I don't know but my pc is misfiring on this page

    but for anonymous who wanted an agreement from me to leave europe alone if africa leaves europe alone . I agree where I have total control..over myself.

    I have never been to western europe, never had a desire to go there, for any reason at all. there is nothing there I want to see.

    and I can guarantee you anonymous that short of power beyond my control I will never go to europe.

    I want Europe, white people, out of Africa as a people of power having exploited africa unconscionably for centuries: that must end now.

    but ordinary people forever find common ground across, around, through and over any dam thing at all in their way. there is no way to deny those who wish to relate from doing so.

    over that I have no power, wish none and seek none. I am not stupid and unnecessary like euros wanting to control everything..even going as far as engineering humans in effort to assure social control.

    europe must sort itself out in effort to humanize itself. ordinary interaction between peoples can help such a process. but europeans must realize they are not superior at all but very very sick people emotionally and seek healing.

    europe has made the world sick like itself and I guess in our collective self interest we have a responsibility to heal europe in healing ourselves from the euro derived emotional tsunami in the world

    IMHO from the very first contact, the experience of black Africans with white Europeans has been a cosmic disaster.

    Likewise, the contact of white Europeans with black Africans has equally been a cosmic disaster.

    – The simple solution is to try to limit all contacts to the barest possible minimum.

  114. @FLgeezer
    >High Fructose Corn Syrup to the dark continent.

    Great idea but for the fact that libs would also bulk ship insulin and syringes thereto. Buy Big Pharma!

    No worries … Insulin does more damage than the HFCS.

  115. @theo the kraut
    > P.S. Someone please explain to me why Germany has a “minister for Africa”?

    We have thousands of inept and corrupt bureaucrats, but we don't have that, not yet. Where did you read this?

    It’s in the link that commentator Edward provided: Germany’s Minister for Africa, Günter Nooke, told the BBC…
    Can’t be arsed to look it up but they probably really mean something like ‘Section Chief for the Vice Minister of the Department for Development Aid’. Every civilized nation got one of those.

  116. @niteranger
    Kerry like Obama and the rest of Idiots of the World don't get it: Over Population is what drives the carbon footprint, ecological footprint and pollution footprint of the world. Africa will cause the collapse of most of the world through disease, ignorance and stupidity. There is no Magic Dirt. The initial input into the system population drives every cycle. The Mickey Mouse game plan that's all we have to do is this simple Paris Accord (non binding) is total mental masturbation.

    It's called birth control Kerry...you fucking idiot because system is not static every person is a new carbon footprint!

    Send in the Clowns.....don't bother they are here!

    Over Population is what drives the carbon footprint, ecological footprint and pollution footprint of the world.

    That part is right, but this:…

    Africa will cause the collapse of most of the world through disease, ignorance and stupidity.

    …is a little hysterical.

    What is going on is a natural process and moralizing about it will gain you nothing. The population of the world is going to be reduced, probably painfully, but as long as we (homo sap., collectively) avoid an all-out nuclear exchange, life will go on with many lessons learned.

    If you can keep your head when all about you…

  117. @theMann
    The entire "African population bomb" analysis is rubbish from beginning to end. Africa isn't feeding its current population, not even close. In certainly won't feed a population X times larger. The only reason that the population is growing now, is because Western, mostly NGO's, but other agencies as well, are feeding what is in effect a continental charity case.

    Stop feeding the charity case, the population snaps back to what is supportable locally. Ugly and brutal, but then they are already having infant Ebola outbreaks, and that isn't going to get better with increased local population pressure. The more so since, while you can feed Third Worlders, you can't teach them anything related to sanitation. (As an aside, this is why the Muslim world is at least a cousin to the Western world. Muslim cities are clean, orderly, and generally up to standards, whereas, for instance, a Hindu Indian city is just as sh!t covered as San Francisco.)

    Making the Black Race everywhere stand on its on feet and own productivity - my God, what if that idea caught on?

    …what if that idea caught on?

    Probably not going to happen, but there have been people who can see the logic.

    http://www.garretthardinsociety.org/articles/art_lifeboat_ethics_case_against_helping_poor.html

  118. @Ed
    The Left has been noticing for awhile. The NYT reports that during Merkel’s open invitation to millions of Syrians, Obama scolded her to stop it now or the EU would be done. She sheepishly agreed. Liberals know the score but what’s crucial here is that they don’t want to be seen as knowing the score, which of course is very damaging.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html

    Behind the scenes, the Obama administration encouraged Europe’s hard-line approach, in meetings with Ms. Merkel and her counterpart in Rome, Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister at the time.

    After Ms. Merkel initially extended a warm welcome to the newcomers, Mr. Obama told her in late 2015 that if she didn’t take a tougher, but necessary, stance, she and the European Union would be through.

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

     

    Thanks – this Obama quote will disturb even more European lefties than Hilary Clintons latest immigration warnings.

  119. @Almost Missouri
    In Edward's comment I was replying to.

    I think he means Günter Nooke, who does indeed seem to be some kind of de facto minister for Africa.

    True dat, didn’t think of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Günter_Nooke

  120. It’s bloody obvious that the African population will hit its Malthusian limit no matter what the climate does, so arguing that we need to stop climate change in order to stop mass immigration is a fallacy.

    Besides, I thought good little lefties like John Kerry didn’t think mass migration was a problem? Could it be that he’s just using it as a scare tactic to fool people? Nah.

    What he is also saying is that we have no right to enforce our borders *unless* we stop climate change, leading to the final point: no matter *what* the West does to reduce our “carbon footprint” to stop climate change it will never, ever be enough. Ergo, we are obliged to have open borders now and forever.

  121. @Ben Sampson
    here niteranger..you revolutionary racist western european to your heart you..take this: this is what I have lived, therefore what I know..not read as written by any one save Michael Hudson whom I will mention a lil' later

    I can understand your interest for an intellectual angle but Africa is not your responsibility, never was. it is you in there with you rape.

    look at it..rape from start to now..forced debt, control of central banks lending the people back their own money at interest, word bank and IMF financial police, genocidal austerity economic programs, constant manipulation a d regime change to ensure the most nasty traitorous african governments always in place

    the list is endless: bad advice forced onto african nations from your 'experts' under the bad governments you have forced into place. you run the friggin stinking UN and they poison Africa. under the WHO we have AIDS, Ebola, west Nile all manner of engineered diseases cutting up Africans, all of those things did not originate in China but the USA and its european satrapies

    just look at the bahavior of John Kerry right now as example of who you are. and Kerry is one of your best..a 'citizen'

    man take your hypocrisy and flush the toilet. jump in after your hypocrisy reach up and flush again. that is where you and your nonsense ought to be.

    Africa is the origin of everything human anyway. you are the thief who stole africa, still stealing it still right now. and you have made the whole world into thieves with your stinking capitalism and usury.

    all that you are culturally was originally African but you did not take african culture to make a positive use of, but to turn it back into the psyops to poison the minds of the whole world to control and rape and poison the planet.

    so who poisoned the planet and continues to do so...Africans?

    look at your Jesus Christ nonsense! you turn a perfect revolutionary narrative, of an ordinary man who fought the money changers, of his time, into a son of an non existent god in the sky, sent to earth to be sacrificed for the sins of humanity...a son who was resurrected from death as an example for all of us to follow, him and his life, to be resurrected also in time ourselves.

    and from a revolutionary Jesus was turned into a an obedient turning the other cheek sap, who promises human reward in heaven, for giving unto usurer all we have in life, to work for him obediently all your life, give unto him you wife and children..the boys to be slaves in the fields,,the females to be slaves in his bed. and you must die a slave, noble by your very slavery on which god in the sky looks down on with love and appreciation..your enslavement.

    look at the human emotional carnage and intellectual confusion, mass murders and general loss of life, human misfocus and waste of energy and time, extremism of all sorts..and most of all blood! Blood! Blood....flowing profusely every generation for thousands of years ever since the creation and disbursement of that shit has inflicted on the world! generated in the world!!!!!! incalculable.

    Europe did that to humanity..and so much more. western europe has been a cloud of evil hanging over the human species. humanity is at the edge of extinction because of the greed and utter stupidity of western europe. and niteranger has the gall to call Africans stupid.

    we are are stupid all right because in our vast majority we simply could not respond to western europe clearly as niteranger expected us to respond..with the same stupidity. had we don so and turned ourselves into another flow of european development the human species would prolly have blown itself to bits already

    and as with Jesus, same with the bible: turned into a sexually driven atrocious piece of misleading trash: world wars organized to smash what has been built up, and to massively reduce global population...then to rebuild on debt and massive, never ending interest charges..along with opportunity to increase control of humanity in the aftermath of war, in the social disaster afterwards

    and now beset by the same periodic global capitalist crisis, the western european white man is fighting to do the same thing again..to create massive human depopulation and physical destruction of infrastructure around the world...and to complete the cycle with another Marshall Plan.. this time for the world

    but this time the Russians and Chinese wont play because they know the betrayal in european heart is going to make them victims at some point. it is plot to destroy them too, and to reduce them to vassals once again, from the competitive reality they are.

    the Russians and Chinese are overtaking european replacing europe as the power in the world and they will not let up. they know europe and whats in store for everyone if europe prevails. the existential horror of europeans, backed by advanced science and technology predated on the human species is going to be a true, unfathomable, sight to behold. if there is god he would have to come down or hide his eye, and block his mind, at the horror that looms for the human species under euro hegemony armed with advanced technology

    and that is a good thing..a very good thing for the human species. the Russian and Chinese do not have the european historical pedigree in the world. we can compare both over several thousands of years and while Europe's is horrific others are not nearly as extreme as the western european white man.

    it is time for the western european white man to be confined to his own original boarders and kept there until he becomes human, until he understands truth and nature and does not want to , or feel the need to own and consume all that exists..to poison the planet: to want to fuck everything that exists: boys and men, the animals of the fields: women and children -his mother sister daughter and son

    thats europe..nasty, barbarous, genocidal, utterly dangerous to human existence..replete with all the human emotional ills...ego and vengeance in particular: like the ashkanaze Jews holding death grudges for millennia that they are determined to repay full and complete..like the one they hold against Russians from the days when the Russians betrayed the Khazars to the byzantines.

    greed, war, conquest, exploitation, human superiority over other humans..that is all europe knows.

    the North and South Koreans are tired of their division, desire powerfully to re-unite their nation and live in the world and are doing all in their power to achieve this goal under the white western european american man who does not want this to take place..even after almost 80 years of the same hostile shit going on and on...

    don't you guys get tired of war, tired of hostile division of peoples everywhere!!!!?????

    the Korean people are tired to death of their hostile division and want to end it. get the western european man out of there, send him him home so the Korean people can organize their peace and live

    “the Russians and Chinese are overtaking european replacing europe as the power in the world and they will not let up. they know europe and whats in store for everyone if europe prevails. the existential horror of europeans, backed by advanced science and technology predated on the human species is going to be a true, unfathomable, sight to behold”

    Amusing rant! I hope you know that Russians are Europeans too, and that the Chinese hold Africans in utter contempt.

  122. Nigeria has a pop of 190M, today. If the country was capable of getting to 500M by the middle of the 20th century, then there wouldn’t all of a sudden be a crisis. GW damage is gradual. In order to reach 500, they have to reach 300, 400, 450 first. If GW is such a big threat there, then how could they do that? If they somehow can, then because there likely weren’t big crippling climate change damages. Why would they all of a sudden come up? Some tipping point/failure cascade? Maybe, but that’s about as likely now as in any point between 190 and 500.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    So what do you predict will happen?
    , @NZLex
    Hint: It's all manipulative bullsh*t designed to make you feel guilty AND accept the open borders AND admit to being a nasty racist/climate-denier/populist/white nationalist/etc. Why even believe these ridiculous numbers? This is John Kerry we are talking about, after all. These people don't believe in anything except more power for them and less for us (white or any other colour).
  123. @sense(maybe)
    Nigeria has a pop of 190M, today. If the country was capable of getting to 500M by the middle of the 20th century, then there wouldn't all of a sudden be a crisis. GW damage is gradual. In order to reach 500, they have to reach 300, 400, 450 first. If GW is such a big threat there, then how could they do that? If they somehow can, then because there likely weren't big crippling climate change damages. Why would they all of a sudden come up? Some tipping point/failure cascade? Maybe, but that's about as likely now as in any point between 190 and 500.

    So what do you predict will happen?

  124. @Ed
    The Left has been noticing for awhile. The NYT reports that during Merkel’s open invitation to millions of Syrians, Obama scolded her to stop it now or the EU would be done. She sheepishly agreed. Liberals know the score but what’s crucial here is that they don’t want to be seen as knowing the score, which of course is very damaging.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html

    Behind the scenes, the Obama administration encouraged Europe’s hard-line approach, in meetings with Ms. Merkel and her counterpart in Rome, Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister at the time.

    After Ms. Merkel initially extended a warm welcome to the newcomers, Mr. Obama told her in late 2015 that if she didn’t take a tougher, but necessary, stance, she and the European Union would be through.

    “Angela, you’ve got to get real or it’s over,” Mr. Obama said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation, who added that Ms. Merkel responded, “Barack, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.”

     

    I’m calling that alleged conversation CYA bullsh*t. Just more dopey attempts to “curb the rising tide of Nationalism” that the elites created by turning democracy into “manufactured consent”. Possibly a crude attempt to try and rescue Merkel’s terrible popularity ratings in Germany, as she has been a highly successful “democratic” dictator for so many years but the whole wars->mass migration thing ruined her career.

  125. @Ben Sampson
    I don't know but my pc is misfiring on this page

    but for anonymous who wanted an agreement from me to leave europe alone if africa leaves europe alone . I agree where I have total control..over myself.

    I have never been to western europe, never had a desire to go there, for any reason at all. there is nothing there I want to see.

    and I can guarantee you anonymous that short of power beyond my control I will never go to europe.

    I want Europe, white people, out of Africa as a people of power having exploited africa unconscionably for centuries: that must end now.

    but ordinary people forever find common ground across, around, through and over any dam thing at all in their way. there is no way to deny those who wish to relate from doing so.

    over that I have no power, wish none and seek none. I am not stupid and unnecessary like euros wanting to control everything..even going as far as engineering humans in effort to assure social control.

    europe must sort itself out in effort to humanize itself. ordinary interaction between peoples can help such a process. but europeans must realize they are not superior at all but very very sick people emotionally and seek healing.

    europe has made the world sick like itself and I guess in our collective self interest we have a responsibility to heal europe in healing ourselves from the euro derived emotional tsunami in the world

    Dear Ben, please try and keep our old home place neat and clean for a few thousand years. I’ll be home when the next Ice Age reaches Atlanta.

  126. @Ben Sampson
    oh my god! why the fuck does the western european white man not get the fuck out of Africa and leave Africans the alone man.!!!


    the Man has been all over Africa for 4 centuries now... ripping it off, bad mouthing it, killing Africans enslaving, colonizing, stealing land, gold, diamonds, platinum, food, lots and lots of food.


    the western euro white man has screwed Africa royally, gotten rich off Africa and now is running his mouth all over africans. now a disgusting Obamite like Kerry opens up his rotten mouth to bad mouth Africans again. does Obama endorse this nonsense too. no doubt!

    entities like niteranger are amazing indeed, the western euro white man has screwed planet earth and we almost have no where to live anymore and nowhere to go. and he calls Africans stupid. oh mi god!

    just get the western euro white man out of Africa, the caribbean, latin america, confine his arse to the borders of western europe and lets see how great he is. he will have to find food and all he needs in europe.

    interesting! give that man his real challenge once again..back to europe and confine him there... so the world can regain some common sense, intelligence and peace again

    The “white man’s burden” is proving remarkably hard to throw off – despite the seeming agony of carrying it… it will take many decades (or longer) to fully appreciate this reality. The truth is that certain people NEED black people to be stupid, or their entire supply chain grinds to a halt – but my belief is that intelligence is generally similar throughout humanity, and is not necessarily the most vital element in any society or country. I fear the interference in Africa will never end, though – nor will the African people cease to travel around the world for one or another reason.

  127. @sense(maybe)
    Nigeria has a pop of 190M, today. If the country was capable of getting to 500M by the middle of the 20th century, then there wouldn't all of a sudden be a crisis. GW damage is gradual. In order to reach 500, they have to reach 300, 400, 450 first. If GW is such a big threat there, then how could they do that? If they somehow can, then because there likely weren't big crippling climate change damages. Why would they all of a sudden come up? Some tipping point/failure cascade? Maybe, but that's about as likely now as in any point between 190 and 500.

    Hint: It’s all manipulative bullsh*t designed to make you feel guilty AND accept the open borders AND admit to being a nasty racist/climate-denier/populist/white nationalist/etc. Why even believe these ridiculous numbers? This is John Kerry we are talking about, after all. These people don’t believe in anything except more power for them and less for us (white or any other colour).

  128. @Prodigal son
    Yes ,we need to provide free porn to Africa. Easy access to porn is one reason American teens are less sexually active today than their parents and grandparents...teens were probably more sexually active 100 years ago than today.

    Were I a young woman who chanced to see some modern porn, I think I’d avoid sexual activity as long as possible.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Were I a young woman who chanced to see some modern porn, I think I’d avoid sexual activity as long as possible.
     
    Why?
    , @Anonymous
    I don't think young women in Africa have much choice about when they become sexually active.
  129. @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, but can you get some deep fried Congolese? I’ve got a hankering …
     
    Congolese, Congoloid...

    Congoleum! That’s it!

  130. @JMcG
    Were I a young woman who chanced to see some modern porn, I think I’d avoid sexual activity as long as possible.

    Were I a young woman who chanced to see some modern porn, I think I’d avoid sexual activity as long as possible.

    Why?

    • Replies: @BB753
    Because of the pervasiveness of anal sex. But African women were already used to backdoor penetration long before cinematic porn even existed.
  131. @JMcG
    Were I a young woman who chanced to see some modern porn, I think I’d avoid sexual activity as long as possible.

    I don’t think young women in Africa have much choice about when they become sexually active.

  132. @Anonymous

    Were I a young woman who chanced to see some modern porn, I think I’d avoid sexual activity as long as possible.
     
    Why?

    Because of the pervasiveness of anal sex. But African women were already used to backdoor penetration long before cinematic porn even existed.

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