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Jessica Valenti obsessing over the youth in the MAGA hat is much like the opening of countless romance novels:

I honestly haven’t stopped thinking about that horrible Mr. Darcy all day — in part because I think so many of us have been on the receiving end of the face he was making: smug, untouchable, entitled …

iSteve commenter Reactionry snarks:

“It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single white man in possession of a good fortune must never be in want of a smirk.”

– Jane Austen: Snide & Prejudice

Jessica’s dirty little secret is that she’s a cisgender heterosexual woman.

 
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  1. Jessica Valenti’s wedding photo. Look at that arched back, the recoil, the repulsion, the disgust, the total fucking-settling-for-less, even though her beau is a Harvard boi. Sad. Sad.

    It will be better Jessica, if you just be one of us.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Poor fuckers couldn't afford to paint their barn. After the Trump tax cuts, I bet they can. Maybe they will paint it orange.
    , @Thea
    She wrote a book explaining how miserable her marriage is in great detail. If her husband leaves a cup on the counter, he gets a major tongue lashing. The book also proudly detailed her previous dalliances in great detail. She is a grotesque but fitting representation of our perverse culture.
    , @verylongaccountname
    His hand being in his pocket is even weirder than her body language.
    , @AnotherDad
    The young long haired Jessica strikes me as a fairly attractive woman--nose excepted.

    But the now Jessica--at 40 (or mid/late 30s when pics taken)--strikes me as a rather unattractive looking woman. Note i'm age adjusting here. Seems like she went from a fairly attractive--definitely above average looking--girl to an unattractive 40 year old. (And this is without weight issues--i can't tell.) Her face in several of these pics just looks annoying, tedious, unpleasant. A bit of witch.

    I'm guessing carrying around these grievances instead of enjoying your kids is just bad for the way you look.
  2. “It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single white man in possession of a good fortune must never be in want of a smirk.”

    – Jane Austen: Snide & Prejudice

    • Replies: @Logan
    Was he wearing a sign that said "Vietnam veteran?"

    Is there any evidence, other than his claim and news reports, that he is a veteran at all?
    , @AnotherDad
    LOL--well done reactionry.
  3. She’s the one who complained about being cat called, and then complained about not being cat called as she got older.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    She's also the one who wrote in one of her books that someone leaving a dirty glass on her kitchen counter is the same to her as "someone taking a shit on the counter".
  4. Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @JimB
    “Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?”

    There is no acceptable expression. And his only acceptable penance is to miscegenate with a Puerto Rican, a black, or a Korean NYT writer so that white faces are forever eradicated from the earth.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    http://www.newdesignfile.com/postpic/2009/05/dead-smiley-face-icon_17015.png
    , @Marat
    No look is acceptable, he’s the wrong color.
    , @Anonymous
    Liberals, the entirety of 2018: Think about the kids!

    Liberals, 2019: Addendum:Actually, we encourage you to destroy the lives of kids if they're white male Christian kids.

  5. I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others’. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I’m pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn’t stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that’s to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn’t the boys’ fault that a man wasn’t present.

    So, here’s the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don’t yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It’s reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and “choice” (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    • Replies: @clyde

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don’t yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It’s reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.
     
    That smirk? As if the average teen boy has a clue how to behave with a deranged senile Indian pounding a drum in his face. The Catholic boy from Kentucky who was aggressed upon did a good job. Perhaps menopausal moonbats like Valenti are getting their high school traumas triggered by these Kentucky high school boys.
    , @anon
    "Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world."

    Dude, your're the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to "save" his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.
    , @TelfoedJohn
    Feminists, being largely childless and partnerless, have always had a thing for young boys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beautiful_Boy

    If you knew some man who worked with children and never seemed to have a girlfriend/wife, you would be right to be suspicious. These cat lady feminists are exactly the same.
    , @James Kabala
    Yes, I don't really see the alleged smirk at all. There definitely is a "prep school jerk" look that some people have. In some old pictures Brett Kavanaugh had it. (That doesn't mean he actually was a jerk, let alone an attempted rapist, but he had the prep school jerk look.) But this kid actually looks more like an amiable dork. (Which means I doubt if any adult woman is sexually attracted to him either - Steve's flight of fancy is equally weird in its own way.)
    , @AnotherDad

    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others’. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.
     
    Well said Bill P. I hadn't bothered to try to flesh out my take on any of these threads, but this is it.

    Creepy Indian attention whore pushed into their HS crowd waiting for the bus and banged the drum in this kid's face. But rather than run away, he just--awkwardly but solidly--stood his ground. He managed to tolerate the guy's aggression, avoid being provoked and showed real class. (My 17 year old self might well have lost it and told the guy to get his 'effing drum outta my face.)


    The amazing thing--or would be amazing if we weren't used to this insanity--is these leftists watching this Indian keep banging his drum in the kid's face … and the kids are being jerks? Even with the video stripped of all context, you'd think there would be some pause? Hmm, which is more likely these Catholic HS kids on a field trip surround and harass these Indian protesters, or the attention seeking protesters went up to them seeking attention. Hello, attention seeking is why they--unlike the HS kids--are banging the drum on the mall in the first place.

    Kudos to Nick Sandmann for both keeping cool and still holding his ground. Well done.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Bill, I don't have an answer for you, but for what it's worth, yours is a very good comment.
    , @Anon
    Horrible , reprehensible Catholic Church.

    Catholic Church is adamantly anti abortion. Catholic Church requires Catholics to be against abortion. Catholic Church funds the anti abortion activists. Catholic diocese and the school sent those kids to the demonstration

    And then the bishop and school administrators turned on the kids who did as ordered and went to the demonstration. The only useful thing the American Catholic Church does nowadays is run a private school system And Covington catholic betrays it’s students and the parents who pay the tuition.

    At least the kids parents are fighting back.
  6. Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?

    Draft ended 1973, war ended 1975.

    • Replies: @JimB
    “Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?”

    In theory, he could be a VN vet. The last troops being shipped over to Nam during the draw down were absolutely at the bottom of the barrel, often doing military service to avoid jail and mainly employed to destroy US facilities and military equipment the army didn’t want falling into the hands of the NVA.

    , @WJ
    Correct. There is almost no way this guy was in VN if he was born in 1955. The last of the regular infantry units came in 71 and all that was left were some advisers and air crews before the final pullout in 73. Assuming he turned 18 in 73 there was not much chance he graduated basic and advanced training before 74 so who knows, perhaps he was part of the final evacuation in 75. I would have to see his DD 214 before I believed that.

    Of course if you say "native American Vietnam vet" all rationality goes out the window.

    , @dr kill
    Doubtful. I'm a 1954 model, and I had a lottery number of 29, but there was no draft. See? First the lottery, then the draft. That's how it worked. Thank you President Nixon.
    , @Anon
    As of January 20, 2019, the Detroit Free Press has him at 64 years old:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/01/20/native-american-leader-nathan-phillips-recounts-incident-video/2630256002/

    No vet or age mention in 2015 here:

    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/native-american-claims-racial-harassment-by-emu-students-dressed-as-indians

    On April 26, 2015, he was 60 years old:

    https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/archive/university-party-in-mi-reveals-unsafe-climate-for-native-american-students-FBGkN1DHYky5iAUol88lUQ/

    It looks like most veterans databases are not online, and a few that are are due to the government shutdown.

    Maybe he was a Vietnam era veteran, or a shortly-after-Vietnam veteran?
    , @Jack D
    So someone born in 1955 is a "native elder"? He's not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for "native elder" status?
  7. Obsessing over white dudes is Valenti’s raison d’être.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Jessica Valenti's dirty little secret is that she's a cisgender heterosexual woman.
    , @Svigor
    Notice me senpai! Notice me!
    , @Forbes
    She's a cisgender heterosexual married white woman, and at age 40, well past her prime nubile years of 17-25, who can't stop thinking about a white high school boy.
  8. To paraphrase Sideshow Bob from The Simpsons:

    “Because you need me Jessica. Your guilty conscience may force you to marry a Democratic soyboy, but deep down inside you secretly long for a cold hearted Republican Chad to lower your ego, brutalize you, and rule you like a king!”

  9. “disrespecting” Dis-ing, if I remember right, was a 90s era concept from African American Rap-Gang culture. When I was a boy, middle aged white people using Black lingo, including the now banished n word, always looked ridiculous as they never quite got the context right.

  10. @Oleaginous Outrager
    Obsessing over white dudes is Valenti's raison d'être.

    Jessica Valenti’s dirty little secret is that she’s a cisgender heterosexual woman.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Jessica needs to embrace her inner crone.
  11. All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner.

    Oh, like in the same way white lady liberals sexualized Obama in an unseemly way? Mainly, they do this because they are sexually starved in a world of Pajama boys and BGTQ men. I couldn’t help noticing the spray on jeans, miniskirts, and cleavage/midriff revealing shirts worn by young woman attending the Womyn’s March in SF and DC. Even the ones who looked like 230 lbs of chewed bubblegum. Perhaps they were hoping to be ravaged by the evil white patriarchy — in the end they had to settle for catcalls and groping by equally sexually frustrated homeless men.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • LOL: clyde
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You must have X Ray vision to see thru winter coats and jackets in January with snow on the ground. If you hate them so much why did you watch?
  12. @Anon
    Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?

    Draft ended 1973, war ended 1975.

    “Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?”

    In theory, he could be a VN vet. The last troops being shipped over to Nam during the draw down were absolutely at the bottom of the barrel, often doing military service to avoid jail and mainly employed to destroy US facilities and military equipment the army didn’t want falling into the hands of the NVA.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    With his age, I would guess he might be a VN ERA vet. Anyone who served from 1964 to mid 1975 is a VN ERA vet, even if they didn't go to VN. A man who went to VN between 1961 and 1975 is a VN Vet. These are official DoD destinations.

    A guy who was stationed in Germany in 1951 is considered a Korean War ERA vet, even if he never saw Korea. The WW2 ERA lasts from 7 Dec 1941 until 31 Dec 1946.

    I could see the injun saying "ERA" and the idiots in the media not reporting it correctly. Who knows?



    https://www.benefits.va.gov/pension/wartimeperiod.asp
  13. @reactionry
    "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single white man in possession of a good fortune must never be in want of a smirk."

    - Jane Austen: Snide & Prejudice

    Was he wearing a sign that said “Vietnam veteran?”

    Is there any evidence, other than his claim and news reports, that he is a veteran at all?

    • Replies: @clyde
    The Indian is probably a veteran who lives on a large mental disability check from the military. Though I doubt he ever fought any Viet Cong.
    The lib media promoted him as an "Indian Elder" who was massively disrespected by white Catholic boys. Reality is he is an old kook.
  14. • Replies: @Argus Bacchus
    She was impressed by 'how well versed he was in feminist politics" during their first meeting.


    Meanwhile, her lady parts remained as dry as the Sahara Desert in July.
  15. @DFH
    Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?

    “Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?”

    There is no acceptable expression. And his only acceptable penance is to miscegenate with a Puerto Rican, a black, or a Korean NYT writer so that white faces are forever eradicated from the earth.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    He should have, like, looked more, like, respectful as that wise old Indian man was banging a drum inches from his face. He should have like, stroked his chin and looked deeply moved? And, like, teared up and then, like, visibly wiped away tears? Or just ACKNOWLEDGED the fact that he was in the presence of a profoundly spiritual man who was the STAR of a Skrillex video!
  16. If you want a vision of the future, imagine a hand-held tom-tom drum banging, loudly, in a human face – forever.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    I'm stealing this.
  17. @Flip
    She's the one who complained about being cat called, and then complained about not being cat called as she got older.

    She’s also the one who wrote in one of her books that someone leaving a dirty glass on her kitchen counter is the same to her as “someone taking a shit on the counter”.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Ole, I remember an old ironworker telling me that his wife was a slob because he couldn't piss in the sink because it was full of dirty dishes.
  18. @Bill P
    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others'. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I'm pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn't stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that's to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn't the boys' fault that a man wasn't present.

    So, here's the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don't yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It's reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and "choice" (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won't take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don’t yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It’s reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    That smirk? As if the average teen boy has a clue how to behave with a deranged senile Indian pounding a drum in his face. The Catholic boy from Kentucky who was aggressed upon did a good job. Perhaps menopausal moonbats like Valenti are getting their high school traumas triggered by these Kentucky high school boys.

  19. @Logan
    Was he wearing a sign that said "Vietnam veteran?"

    Is there any evidence, other than his claim and news reports, that he is a veteran at all?

    The Indian is probably a veteran who lives on a large mental disability check from the military. Though I doubt he ever fought any Viet Cong.
    The lib media promoted him as an “Indian Elder” who was massively disrespected by white Catholic boys. Reality is he is an old kook.

    • Replies: @Anon
    In interviews after the 2015 incident he said his house was Section 8, his wife was in the hospital with cancer, and he lived on $28 a month. He wandered the neighborhood collecting wood, part to be used in a sweat lodge he was building in his backyard, and part to sell for money to buy food. The sweat lodge was an unfinished dome of half inch or inch thick tree branches randomly woven together, with no convering -- waiting for a buffalo hide to materialize? The whole thing was about four feet tall.

    No mention of veterans benefits, veterans hospitals or veteran's medical care.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    The Indian is probably a veteran who lives on a large mental disability check

     

    ...


    Native Man Who Harassed Catholic Teens Linked To Big Money Left-Wing Activism

    “[Phillips] is a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance,” according to Heavy.

    ...the larger well-funded Native Youth Leadership ... is currently promoting Phillips’ fundraising campaign stemming from the incident with the Catholic teens.

    The Native Youth Leadership Alliance (NYLA) is a non-profit organization that is funded by the same far-left power players who are often involved in bankrolling leftist causes. The organization’s funding partners include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Social Justice Fund Northwest.

     

  20. MLK Day has delivered to us an extraordinary gift:

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    So subtle announcing on MLK day: "Hey everybody, I'm running for President, and did I mention I'm Black."

    Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.

    , @Autochthon
    The design for the campaign's T-shirts has already been leaked by her election committee at the H.R. Haggard consultancy:

    https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.346947211.1007/ra,classic_tee,x2000,541e68:68f9e309b0,front-c,325,112,750,1000-bg,f8f8f8.u2.jpg
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Ole, Kirsten Gillibrand is already campaigning in Iowa were the comments ranged form "She's a lovely lady" to "Who's she?"
  21. @Anon
    Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?

    Draft ended 1973, war ended 1975.

    Correct. There is almost no way this guy was in VN if he was born in 1955. The last of the regular infantry units came in 71 and all that was left were some advisers and air crews before the final pullout in 73. Assuming he turned 18 in 73 there was not much chance he graduated basic and advanced training before 74 so who knows, perhaps he was part of the final evacuation in 75. I would have to see his DD 214 before I believed that.

    Of course if you say “native American Vietnam vet” all rationality goes out the window.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    I turned 18 in the fall of ‘72. No one from my birth year of 1954 was drafted; we got lottery numbers, but no one was taken. Even if I had joined in June of ‘72 it would have been early ‘73 before I would have been deployed anywhere. Highly unlikely that this gentleman, a year younger than me, would have gone to Vietnam. I think, though if he was in the service in ‘73 he’d be considered a “Vietnam Era “ vet.
    , @Henry's Cat
    Anyone who sat through The Deer Hunter qualifies in my book.
    , @Known Fact
    I'm still confused -- I thought the left hated Vietnam vets.
    , @clyde

    Of course if you say “native American Vietnam vet” all rationality goes out the window.
     
    This demented clown with his drum, he's been dining out for years on this. Off whitey. Though I'll bet all Indians know he is a fake Viet vet though he was probably been in our military.....sometime.
  22. I can’t stop thinking about Jessica Pare’s smirk whenever she is asked about that scene in Hot Tub Time Machine.

    Talk about White privilege…….

  23. This is the world we are leaving our White children! Somehow, we have to get the moral courage to demand safe spaces and safe communities for White children to grow up in and live full lives.

    Nothing short of that will work. I’m afraid the lack of courage by previous generations makes our job that much harder. But it must be done.

    • Replies: @harmonshoal
    So our white children will have to grow up and live like prisoners as whites in South Africa do.
    , @Anon
    Safe spaces and safe communities for White children ended in 1956 when Eisenhower and the satanic Supreme Court desegregated the public schools.
  24. All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    "The novel", with its intelligent speculation on the thoughts and feelings of its characters which, in its highest forms, drive the narrative, is the distinctive European art form.

    Understanding people, and them understanding you, is also, not uncoincidentally, the basis of complex social organisation.

    Indeed, the decline of reading great literature among the elite correlates well with the decline of said elite and their governing of European countries. Cinema and similar can make excellent art but will very rarely give the level of psychological insight offered by the novel.


    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?
     
    So nobody can ask "why" someone does something? Understanding motivations is "really Jewy"?

    You must be a hoot to be in a relationship with...let my "really Jewy" self suggest you try this sometime, those around you will appreciate it.

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    Agree. She is simply a Communist who is just obeying her orders issued from the Commintern. As are all the other media figures who are simultaneously reporting on this issue with the same identical viewpoint.
  25. @DFH
    Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?

  26. anon[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill P
    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others'. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I'm pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn't stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that's to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn't the boys' fault that a man wasn't present.

    So, here's the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don't yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It's reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and "choice" (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won't take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    “Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.”

    Dude, your’re the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to “save” his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    No, he sound like a dad who wants to keep his sons away from feminists like Valenti. My guess is he has no objection to a nice Amish girl, or a girl like Valenti's great grandmother at age 22.
    , @Mike P.
    There are plenty of other options. Not all women are traumatized by a teenage boy smirking.
    , @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    There are more options than "priesthood" and "crazy aunt Valenti", I tell you.
    , @al gore rhythms
    Typical 'anon' comment and a deliberate misreading of his post. Shame on you.
    , @njguy73

    Dude, your’re the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to “save” his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.
     
    What would you say to a twelve-year-old boy who approached you and asked you how he could survive in this world of ours?
    , @Anonymous
    I agree. There’s s lot of sexual perversion masquerading as prudery on Unz. It reminds me of a 19th century preacher wanting to get on the local censorship board so he can look at dirty pictures.
  27. Is it me but are these young so-called “journalists” basically exorcising their personal demons in print.

    Journalism as therapy. Feel better soon, Jessica.

    • Replies: @AnonAnon

    Is it me but are these young so-called “journalists” basically exorcising their personal demons in print.
     
    It’s not you, these psycho bitches are projecting their issues onto others and taking us along on their emotional rollercoaster.
    , @Colin Wright
    'Is it me but are these young so-called “journalists” basically exorcising their personal demons in print.

    Journalism as therapy. Feel better soon, Jessica.'

    Valenti can't be that young. She had a regular column and was irritating and annoying me a good ten years ago.

    ...Everybody was always mean to her in the comments section of her articles. She actually got the comments turned off for her column so that people couldn't be mean to her any more.

  28. @Daniel H
    Jessica Valenti's wedding photo. Look at that arched back, the recoil, the repulsion, the disgust, the total fucking-settling-for-less, even though her beau is a Harvard boi. Sad. Sad.

    It will be better Jessica, if you just be one of us.

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/10/18/fashion/vows.sub.600.jpg

    Poor fuckers couldn’t afford to paint their barn. After the Trump tax cuts, I bet they can. Maybe they will paint it orange.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    It's a crappy Yankee barn.

    Not a good Pennsylvania bank barn.

    Damn Yankees.
  29. @Anon
    Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?

    Draft ended 1973, war ended 1975.

    Doubtful. I’m a 1954 model, and I had a lottery number of 29, but there was no draft. See? First the lottery, then the draft. That’s how it worked. Thank you President Nixon.

    • Replies: @CJ
    Not impossible that he volunteered. There's a tradition of American Indians serving in the U.S. armed forces and Canadian Indians serving in the Canadian forces.
  30. @JimB
    “Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?”

    In theory, he could be a VN vet. The last troops being shipped over to Nam during the draw down were absolutely at the bottom of the barrel, often doing military service to avoid jail and mainly employed to destroy US facilities and military equipment the army didn’t want falling into the hands of the NVA.

    With his age, I would guess he might be a VN ERA vet. Anyone who served from 1964 to mid 1975 is a VN ERA vet, even if they didn’t go to VN. A man who went to VN between 1961 and 1975 is a VN Vet. These are official DoD destinations.

    A guy who was stationed in Germany in 1951 is considered a Korean War ERA vet, even if he never saw Korea. The WW2 ERA lasts from 7 Dec 1941 until 31 Dec 1946.

    I could see the injun saying “ERA” and the idiots in the media not reporting it correctly. Who knows?

    https://www.benefits.va.gov/pension/wartimeperiod.asp

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The way American decorations work, you get recognitions Brits would find silly so your new commander can surmise your service record book when he scans your chest; the way the American veteran thing works, you get wierd classifications to simplify the task of categorizing people. I was a pogue, but a VA hospital classed me as a "combat vet" because a place I had been stationed at was attacked and to expedite a procedure I needed. Obviously I can't go around telling people that I am a "combat vet" beyond paper, but the designation is real and served a bureaucratic function. If this guy is telling people he is a Vietnam vet when he was a Vietnam era vet then he's still a scumbag but he may have gotten the idea from government precision.
    ------------
    There was also a thing where they were classifying the Middle East as South Asia or something, I don't remember exactly but everybody double-took and thought it was wrong, and the briefer said, no, this is the classification, we're just going with it.
  31. Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?

    Draft ended 1973, war ended 1975.

    As of January 20, 2019, the Detroit Free Press has him at 64 years old:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/01/20/native-american-leader-nathan-phillips-recounts-incident-video/2630256002/

    No vet or age mention in 2015 here:

    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/native-american-claims-racial-harassment-by-emu-students-dressed-as-indians

    On April 26, 2015, he was 60 years old:

    https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/archive/university-party-in-mi-reveals-unsafe-climate-for-native-american-students-FBGkN1DHYky5iAUol88lUQ/

    It looks like most veterans databases are not online, and a few that are are due to the government shutdown.

    Maybe he was a Vietnam era veteran, or a shortly-after-Vietnam veteran?

  32. @Daniel H
    Jessica Valenti's wedding photo. Look at that arched back, the recoil, the repulsion, the disgust, the total fucking-settling-for-less, even though her beau is a Harvard boi. Sad. Sad.

    It will be better Jessica, if you just be one of us.

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/10/18/fashion/vows.sub.600.jpg

    She wrote a book explaining how miserable her marriage is in great detail. If her husband leaves a cup on the counter, he gets a major tongue lashing. The book also proudly detailed her previous dalliances in great detail. She is a grotesque but fitting representation of our perverse culture.

  33. Vietnam ended in 1973 for the US.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    According to the DoD and VA the Viet Nam Era ended May 7, 1975.

    Being in the military between 1964 and May 7, 1975 means you are a "wartime era" vet of Viet Nam.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Vietnam ended in 1973 for the US.
     
    Ostensibly, but we still had several thousand troops there until like June of '75, or thereabouts. Not 100 percent certain about that, but I think it's correct.
    , @nebulafox
    Yes and no...

    When it came to the popular understanding of the Vietnam War, it actually ended a little earlier: all ground combat operations ceased in late 1971, and the last combat unit left in August 1972. And even before that, things had pretty significantly declined from the height of '67-'69. The troops that weren't being withdrawn altogether were being transferred to the safer coastal regions in the second half of 1970.

    On the other hand, air strikes-including some of the most intense in our history in Operation FREEDOM DEAL, more intense than those on Japan in WWII-continued into the summer of 1973 in Cambodia and Laos from Korat AFB over in Thailand. And we had the usual advisors and the like until the fall of Saigon.

  34. @Bill P
    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others'. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I'm pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn't stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that's to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn't the boys' fault that a man wasn't present.

    So, here's the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don't yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It's reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and "choice" (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won't take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    Feminists, being largely childless and partnerless, have always had a thing for young boys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beautiful_Boy

    If you knew some man who worked with children and never seemed to have a girlfriend/wife, you would be right to be suspicious. These cat lady feminists are exactly the same.

  35. @Steve Sailer
    Jessica Valenti's dirty little secret is that she's a cisgender heterosexual woman.

    Jessica needs to embrace her inner crone.

  36. @Bill P
    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others'. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I'm pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn't stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that's to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn't the boys' fault that a man wasn't present.

    So, here's the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don't yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It's reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and "choice" (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won't take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    Yes, I don’t really see the alleged smirk at all. There definitely is a “prep school jerk” look that some people have. In some old pictures Brett Kavanaugh had it. (That doesn’t mean he actually was a jerk, let alone an attempted rapist, but he had the prep school jerk look.) But this kid actually looks more like an amiable dork. (Which means I doubt if any adult woman is sexually attracted to him either – Steve’s flight of fancy is equally weird in its own way.)

  37. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:
    @clyde
    The Indian is probably a veteran who lives on a large mental disability check from the military. Though I doubt he ever fought any Viet Cong.
    The lib media promoted him as an "Indian Elder" who was massively disrespected by white Catholic boys. Reality is he is an old kook.

    In interviews after the 2015 incident he said his house was Section 8, his wife was in the hospital with cancer, and he lived on $28 a month. He wandered the neighborhood collecting wood, part to be used in a sweat lodge he was building in his backyard, and part to sell for money to buy food. The sweat lodge was an unfinished dome of half inch or inch thick tree branches randomly woven together, with no convering — waiting for a buffalo hide to materialize? The whole thing was about four feet tall.

    No mention of veterans benefits, veterans hospitals or veteran’s medical care.

  38. The thing I remember most about Jessica Valenti is that she refused to throw in the towel on Jackie. After the Washington Post followed up on Steve’s hunches and published its expose’ demolishing all of her claims, all the other Leftists had the wisdom to just go radio silent and move on to the next thing as they usually do when a hate hoax is exposed but Jessica kept insisting that Jackie was still telling the truth. Now this kind of loyalty is admirable in a way, given that most Leftists will not hesitate for a second to throw their comrades under the bus if it serves the needs of the Revolution, but at some point it rises to the level of stupidity. The main impression I got was that feelz are much more important than facts to Jessica.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas

    The thing I remember most about Jessica Valenti is that she refused to throw in the towel on Jackie.
     
    Valenti was one of a gaggle of contemporary feminists who were early to blogging (i.e., Marcotte, Filipovic) who refused to acknowledge that the Crystal Gail Mangum/Duke Lacrosse accusations were definitively proven false. This is where I became acquainted with the fact that without saying so they believe that it is peachy keen for rape accusations to be treated as essentially unfalsifiable.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    New York Times editor Sarah Jeong never threw in the towel on Jackie either.
  39. I think this whole thing is redirected Kavanaugh rage. Used to getting their way in companies and universities the instant any real or imagined transgression is dredged up, they flipped out when the Senate flipped them off and confirmed Kavanaugh. This kid is a proxy for Kavanaugh.

  40. @Rosie
    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can't we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?

    “The novel”, with its intelligent speculation on the thoughts and feelings of its characters which, in its highest forms, drive the narrative, is the distinctive European art form.

    Understanding people, and them understanding you, is also, not uncoincidentally, the basis of complex social organisation.

    Indeed, the decline of reading great literature among the elite correlates well with the decline of said elite and their governing of European countries. Cinema and similar can make excellent art but will very rarely give the level of psychological insight offered by the novel.

    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something? Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?

    You must be a hoot to be in a relationship with…let my “really Jewy” self suggest you try this sometime, those around you will appreciate it.

    • Replies: @DFH

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something? Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?
     
    Is that what she said? Trying to shame ordinary, healthy behaviour as Jewish psychiatrists from Freud to the authors of the Authoritarian Personality (sponsored by the American Jewish Committee) to the authors of the APA masculinity report, have done is indeed, extremely Jewy.
    , @Jack D
    Rosie offers her diagnosis of you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRQijskAMp4
    , @Rosie

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something?
     
    Sure you can ask, but don't pretend it's anything more than idle speculation.

    Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?
     
    When the point is to pathologize and dismiss, yes.

    The problem with women who attacked this kid is not that they have repressed sexual issues, the problem is that they jumped to conclusions, as a result of their own prejudices, without examining the evidence.
    , @Svigor
    I dunno about her application, but the underlying statement is valid: pseudoFreudian psychobabble is really Jewy.
    , @Old Palo Altan
    How can the author of a novel, any novel, from the best (say Anna Karenina) to the worst (anything by Philip Roth) be said to "speculate", intelligently or otherwise, about the "thoughts and feelings of its (i.e. his) characters"?

    We are the ones doing the speculating, and a novelist's greatness is measured by his ability to both awaken that speculation, and then satisfy it.
  41. I guess it never occurred to JV that perhaps

    a smug, untouchable, entitled ‘fuck you’

    is just what she deserves.

  42. Why hasn’t NYT signed her up for a columnist yet?

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Ain't that the truth.
  43. @Tyrion 2
    "The novel", with its intelligent speculation on the thoughts and feelings of its characters which, in its highest forms, drive the narrative, is the distinctive European art form.

    Understanding people, and them understanding you, is also, not uncoincidentally, the basis of complex social organisation.

    Indeed, the decline of reading great literature among the elite correlates well with the decline of said elite and their governing of European countries. Cinema and similar can make excellent art but will very rarely give the level of psychological insight offered by the novel.


    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?
     
    So nobody can ask "why" someone does something? Understanding motivations is "really Jewy"?

    You must be a hoot to be in a relationship with...let my "really Jewy" self suggest you try this sometime, those around you will appreciate it.

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something? Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?

    Is that what she said? Trying to shame ordinary, healthy behaviour as Jewish psychiatrists from Freud to the authors of the Authoritarian Personality (sponsored by the American Jewish Committee) to the authors of the APA masculinity report, have done is indeed, extremely Jewy.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Read the context before you try to ride in.
  44. @Anon
    Has the Vietnam veteran claim checked out for this guy born in 1955?

    Draft ended 1973, war ended 1975.

    So someone born in 1955 is a “native elder”? He’s not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for “native elder” status?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    You are an elder when people in your tribe call you an elder.
    Seriously, that is what it is.

    Some people are never Indian elders no matter how old because they don’t have contact with their tribe.

    One famous ancestor of mine became a Cherokee elder when she was a widow with two kids at the age of 17.

    My mother is 90 and not a tribal elder, but her younger sister is. My aunt lives in Cherokee country in Oklahoma while my mother does not.
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    If he's a "native elder", then by definition he was not born in paleface "1955". He was born in The Year of the Great Squawking Wind, When Elk Were Scarce And Chief Five Bears Lost His Underpants.
    , @ic1000
    This morning, CBS This Morning edged up from the bottom rung of TV infotainment shows, hedging their bets by partially walking back the slander of the high school boys. "2nd Video Offers New Context to Kentucky Boys Taunting Native American Activist". Anchor Nora O'Donnell and reporter Jan Crawford mentioned that there might be more to this story than journalists gleaned by watching a single video on social media. They coupled this insight with an exclusive interview of Native American Elder [sic] and Vietnam Vet [sic] Nathan Phillips. Phillips' improbable claim is that he had been concerned about anti-white racist taunts from nearby Black Hebrews, and moved in with his drum as a peacemaker to protect the white students. Phillips also stated that these white students were dealing racist taunts to the Black Hebrews, a novel Support-The-Narrative slander that the two featherweight newsgals didn't challenge.

    Given that Americans are free to watch the inheritors of the Edward R. Murrow tradition perform every morning and evening, I can't understand the persistence of the "Fake News" theme.
    , @Chris Mallory
    200 years ago at age 64, he would have lost all his teeth and been unable to chew his jerky.
    The tribe would have sent him out into the blizzard to die and be eaten by the wolves.
    , @Anonymous
    The heavy drinking prematurely ages you.
    , @Anonymous
    Give the Indians a break, Jack. If those boys were Mormons they could be Elders in a couple of years!
  45. @Tyrion 2
    "The novel", with its intelligent speculation on the thoughts and feelings of its characters which, in its highest forms, drive the narrative, is the distinctive European art form.

    Understanding people, and them understanding you, is also, not uncoincidentally, the basis of complex social organisation.

    Indeed, the decline of reading great literature among the elite correlates well with the decline of said elite and their governing of European countries. Cinema and similar can make excellent art but will very rarely give the level of psychological insight offered by the novel.


    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?
     
    So nobody can ask "why" someone does something? Understanding motivations is "really Jewy"?

    You must be a hoot to be in a relationship with...let my "really Jewy" self suggest you try this sometime, those around you will appreciate it.

    Rosie offers her diagnosis of you:

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Where's the lie, tho?
  46. @WJ
    Correct. There is almost no way this guy was in VN if he was born in 1955. The last of the regular infantry units came in 71 and all that was left were some advisers and air crews before the final pullout in 73. Assuming he turned 18 in 73 there was not much chance he graduated basic and advanced training before 74 so who knows, perhaps he was part of the final evacuation in 75. I would have to see his DD 214 before I believed that.

    Of course if you say "native American Vietnam vet" all rationality goes out the window.

    I turned 18 in the fall of ‘72. No one from my birth year of 1954 was drafted; we got lottery numbers, but no one was taken. Even if I had joined in June of ‘72 it would have been early ‘73 before I would have been deployed anywhere. Highly unlikely that this gentleman, a year younger than me, would have gone to Vietnam. I think, though if he was in the service in ‘73 he’d be considered a “Vietnam Era “ vet.

  47. @anon
    "Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world."

    Dude, your're the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to "save" his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    No, he sound like a dad who wants to keep his sons away from feminists like Valenti. My guess is he has no objection to a nice Amish girl, or a girl like Valenti’s great grandmother at age 22.

  48. @anon
    "Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world."

    Dude, your're the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to "save" his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    There are plenty of other options. Not all women are traumatized by a teenage boy smirking.

  49. @Tyrion 2
    "The novel", with its intelligent speculation on the thoughts and feelings of its characters which, in its highest forms, drive the narrative, is the distinctive European art form.

    Understanding people, and them understanding you, is also, not uncoincidentally, the basis of complex social organisation.

    Indeed, the decline of reading great literature among the elite correlates well with the decline of said elite and their governing of European countries. Cinema and similar can make excellent art but will very rarely give the level of psychological insight offered by the novel.


    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?
     
    So nobody can ask "why" someone does something? Understanding motivations is "really Jewy"?

    You must be a hoot to be in a relationship with...let my "really Jewy" self suggest you try this sometime, those around you will appreciate it.

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something?

    Sure you can ask, but don’t pretend it’s anything more than idle speculation.

    Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?

    When the point is to pathologize and dismiss, yes.

    The problem with women who attacked this kid is not that they have repressed sexual issues, the problem is that they jumped to conclusions, as a result of their own prejudices, without examining the evidence.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them. It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not "idle".
    , @Svigor

    The problem with women who attacked this kid is not that they have repressed sexual issues, the problem is that they jumped to conclusions, as a result of their own prejudices, without examining the evidence.
     
    This woman pretty clearly has repressed sexual issues:

    https://twitter.com/alexhcranz/status/1086717790558609408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1086717790558609408&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fisteve%2F

    Notice me! DEVASTATE me, u goyische brute u!

  50. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    I was feeling a little cognitive dissonance reading the statement of Nick Sandmann, and then it hit me: This was a coherent, pellucid, grammatical, correctly spelled, properly punctuated piece of writing. By a high school student. There were no $20 thesaurus words used incorrectly. And there was no social science jargon, nor was “they” used as a singular personal pronoun.

    A high school student can still write like we did in the old days, while the WE DEMAND manifesto crowd at universities write like retarded grade schoolers?

    It occurred to me that he might have run it by someone else to copyedit it. But you know, the WE DEMAND crowd could do that too, but they don’t, and that in itself is a sign of stupidity. Smart people make their own environment, and that environment may include asking for help.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Agreed. I thought it was a little too meek, but it was very well and clearly written. Anyone could read it and get a good sense of what had happened from this kid's perspective, which would effectively flip the script from the left/establishment attack on him.

    This kid's a gem.

    And yeah, the writing in these leftist manifestos--appalling. I guess the Jewish kids are too scared to edit and correct the drivel the blacks write. It's embarassing. And doubly embarassing that universities capitulate to people who can't even write coherent sentences.
    , @Jack D
    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant. This is not how high school juniors write.

    The last sentence gives a clue as to who helped him write it:


    I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.
     
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

    As he expresses in the statement, he was in no way prepared to be thrust into the middle of a modern Leftist media lynching on his own. I am glad that the Diocese is providing him with help and they should not stand by while their students (and by extension, their entire religion) is slandered by people who are probably atheists and who do not wish them well.

    I was also shocked during the Kavanaugh hearings to see how much anti-Catholic sentiment was openly expressed on the Left. In the old days, Republicans were supposedly the ones who were anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc. but nowaday the supposedly "open minded" Left finds excuses to criticize Catholics, Jews, Christian Fundamentalists, etc. (but never Muslims) - they are (supposedly) not opposed to their religions per se, but they say they oppose them because they don't like Israel, their anti-abortion stance, etc. I have a hard time telling this apart from plain old-fashioned religious prejudice.

    But don't be fooled into thinking that this is something that Nick wrote by himself and then the adults just edited it a little. Probably he was interviewed by professionals and then the factual elements of the interview were edited into this statement. Some of the sentiments, such as thanking the Indian for his service, were probably completely added by the adults. There is nothing wrong with this but don't mistake Nick for some sort of boy genius. He is just a regular kid who was thrust into a media firestorm.

    , @Anon
    That’s what happens when you send your kids to private school. They can write a decent English paragraph

    Public schools stopped teaching grammar about 60 years ago because correct grammar is racist.
  51. @Jack D
    So someone born in 1955 is a "native elder"? He's not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for "native elder" status?

    You are an elder when people in your tribe call you an elder.
    Seriously, that is what it is.

    Some people are never Indian elders no matter how old because they don’t have contact with their tribe.

    One famous ancestor of mine became a Cherokee elder when she was a widow with two kids at the age of 17.

    My mother is 90 and not a tribal elder, but her younger sister is. My aunt lives in Cherokee country in Oklahoma while my mother does not.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    One famous ancestor of mine became a Cherokee elder when she was a widow with two kids at the age of 17.

     

    (Big Squaw Warren is this guy's grandma.)
    , @Moshe
    man, why can't we have a thread where people all introduce themselves and share interesting s*** like this.
    , @dr kill
    Some cultures are better than others. QED.
  52. @Jack D
    So someone born in 1955 is a "native elder"? He's not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for "native elder" status?

    If he’s a “native elder”, then by definition he was not born in paleface “1955”. He was born in The Year of the Great Squawking Wind, When Elk Were Scarce And Chief Five Bears Lost His Underpants.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  53. She’s going full Becky on the kid. Fails to realize soon there will be no safe targets for her bile.

    • Replies: @Marat
    Will she end up autophaging?
  54. @Jack D
    So someone born in 1955 is a "native elder"? He's not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for "native elder" status?

    This morning, CBS This Morning edged up from the bottom rung of TV infotainment shows, hedging their bets by partially walking back the slander of the high school boys. “2nd Video Offers New Context to Kentucky Boys Taunting Native American Activist“. Anchor Nora O’Donnell and reporter Jan Crawford mentioned that there might be more to this story than journalists gleaned by watching a single video on social media. They coupled this insight with an exclusive interview of Native American Elder [sic] and Vietnam Vet [sic] Nathan Phillips. Phillips’ improbable claim is that he had been concerned about anti-white racist taunts from nearby Black Hebrews, and moved in with his drum as a peacemaker to protect the white students. Phillips also stated that these white students were dealing racist taunts to the Black Hebrews, a novel Support-The-Narrative slander that the two featherweight newsgals didn’t challenge.

    Given that Americans are free to watch the inheritors of the Edward R. Murrow tradition perform every morning and evening, I can’t understand the persistence of the “Fake News” theme.

  55. @Prester John
    Is it me but are these young so-called "journalists" basically exorcising their personal demons in print.

    Journalism as therapy. Feel better soon, Jessica.

    Is it me but are these young so-called “journalists” basically exorcising their personal demons in print.

    It’s not you, these psycho bitches are projecting their issues onto others and taking us along on their emotional rollercoaster.

  56. Is Nicholas Sandmann Jewish?

    • Replies: @Mike P.
    No. He said in his statement that he is Catholic.
    , @Jack D
    Not bloody likely considering that he goes to Catholic school. Also usually -mann with 2 n's is usually (but not always) German, not Jewish. Most often Jewish -man's have 1 n but there is no hard and fast rule either way.
    , @Anon
    Lots of Jewish kids in cities go to catholic schools. Wouldn’t it be a kick if he was Jewish? ADL AJC would have a meltdown.
  57. @Oleaginous Outrager
    MLK Day has delivered to us an extraordinary gift:

    https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1087327713277460481

    So subtle announcing on MLK day: “Hey everybody, I’m running for President, and did I mention I’m Black.”

    Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    All the Dem candidates should have to take that test to qualify for this intersectional battle -- call the resulting report 2020 and Me
    , @Colin Wright
    '...Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.'

    25% at most. One half is Indian -- the half that raised her -- while the other half is Jamaican, but I'd guess one of those high yaller ones. I'd hold out for 12.5%.

    It's tedious. Full blacks are very, very rare in national politics. They're just too damned dumb. So the beneficiaries of all the pro-black sentiment tend to be people like Harris, Holder, Obama, Rice...

    As a rule, they've never been victims of anything. On the contrary, they've lived lives of privilege and entitlement from the day they first demonstrated they were bright enough to do a passable imitation of ordinary white behavior -- or even, in Obama's case at least, from the day of their birth.

    The sheer absurdity of it grates on me. Take Obama. Note only is he one half white, and not only was he brought up in a cocoon of wealth and privilege -- elite private schools, etc -- but even the black half is from Kenya, on the opposite side of the continent from where our blacks hail from.

    On the whole, it's as if Irish Americans fell over themselves to vote for a half-Pole, half Japanese who'd been raised in a Tibetan monastery on the grounds that he was a bit of the old sod. It's ridiculous.

    , @Anon
    She doesn’t look a bit black. Her Dad looked very high yaller. In childhood pictures she looks lighter than either parent. Hmmmm
  58. Don’t these White goys know they don’t have the privilege to protect each other?

    • Replies: @Moshe
    igorevich, you're a goy. and it sucks. merry hannuka bush.
  59. She has that clannish Italian smirk.

    It just goes to show that most people’s minds are mush. They love or hate whatever based on what the dominant narrative forces on them.

    • Replies: @Anon
    An Italian got into Stuyvesant? Hard to believe unless red diaper baby Robert De Niro wrote her recommendation.
  60. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    This native news website uses the “Vietnam-era veteran” for the “elder”: That’s more believable, especially if you are generous with the definition of “Vietnam era.”

    https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/outrage-as-non-native-youth-wearing-maga-hats-taunt-and-disrespect-native-elder-jy7UVwdg8kK2uvT0L-JOig/

    Wikipedia says a Vietnam-era veteran (not “in country”) is someone whose stint started on or before May 7, 1975, and who didn’t set foot in Vietnam or on a ship in its waters on or before that date.

    I think the term “veteran” is sufficient. If you weren’t in Vietnam, why use the word Vietnam at all? Do you get extra credit for the stress of not knowing if you would be sent “in country”? If so, a guy born in 1955 pretty well knew he wouldn’t be sent over there by the time he enlisted.

  61. @JimB
    “Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?”

    There is no acceptable expression. And his only acceptable penance is to miscegenate with a Puerto Rican, a black, or a Korean NYT writer so that white faces are forever eradicated from the earth.

    He should have, like, looked more, like, respectful as that wise old Indian man was banging a drum inches from his face. He should have like, stroked his chin and looked deeply moved? And, like, teared up and then, like, visibly wiped away tears? Or just ACKNOWLEDGED the fact that he was in the presence of a profoundly spiritual man who was the STAR of a Skrillex video!

  62. @Tyrion 2
    "The novel", with its intelligent speculation on the thoughts and feelings of its characters which, in its highest forms, drive the narrative, is the distinctive European art form.

    Understanding people, and them understanding you, is also, not uncoincidentally, the basis of complex social organisation.

    Indeed, the decline of reading great literature among the elite correlates well with the decline of said elite and their governing of European countries. Cinema and similar can make excellent art but will very rarely give the level of psychological insight offered by the novel.


    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?
     
    So nobody can ask "why" someone does something? Understanding motivations is "really Jewy"?

    You must be a hoot to be in a relationship with...let my "really Jewy" self suggest you try this sometime, those around you will appreciate it.

    I dunno about her application, but the underlying statement is valid: pseudoFreudian psychobabble is really Jewy.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Translation: the application was nonsense.
  63. @Oleaginous Outrager
    Obsessing over white dudes is Valenti's raison d'être.

    Notice me senpai! Notice me!

  64. The Talk: Preppie Version should say:
    “Native elders are always okay;
    Even in-your-face jerks.
    Give-um smiles and not smirks:
    The oblige that noblesse has to pay.”

  65. Sandmann’s account is banned from Twitter.

  66. @clyde
    http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/scandals/andrew-golis-blogger-jessica-valentis-husband/
    more on valenti and her unlucky husband

    She was impressed by ‘how well versed he was in feminist politics” during their first meeting.

    Meanwhile, her lady parts remained as dry as the Sahara Desert in July.

  67. @DFH
    Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?

    No look is acceptable, he’s the wrong color.

  68. @Rosie

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something?
     
    Sure you can ask, but don't pretend it's anything more than idle speculation.

    Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?
     
    When the point is to pathologize and dismiss, yes.

    The problem with women who attacked this kid is not that they have repressed sexual issues, the problem is that they jumped to conclusions, as a result of their own prejudices, without examining the evidence.

    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them. It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not “idle”.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    Take a look at:

    Steven Hicks.
    _Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault_.
    2006.

    See also his lecture on Youtube.com.

    His work is a useful field guide.

    The most difficult thing when working with Postmodernists is remembering that, for them, nothing is real, words are weapons, logic an oppression, and social status is all because only groups exist. They can't live in the a realist/individualist society needed for industrialization, and seeing people who can fills them with hatred, makes them furiously angry. Hatred is, after all, an emotion invoked by anything that seriously threatens your life.

    The people who attacked the kid did not do so because they jumped to conclusions. They started with hatred for the kids, and grabbed any half way plausible (to their group) explanations for their hatred. It's the old Copernican Revolution idea that Kant used. With postmodernists, put hatred rather than faith in in the center of the system. Makes them a lot easier to deal with.

    Counterinsurgency
    , @Rosie

    It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not “idle”.
     
    What is "interesting" about speculating about other people's' sexual fantasies that, in any case, you cannot prove one way or the other?

    Nothing.

    And there is certainly nothing practical about any of it, unless the intent is to weaponize your speculations against others. Of course, if you've already evaluated their ideas on the merits and found them wanting, then you can just, you know, argue the merits.
    , @Hypnotoad666

    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them.
     
    That's good strategy for dealing with persuadable people acting in good faith.

    But I'd argue that the true professional cult-Marx leftists are incapable of ever having a new idea. They just develop new rhetorical tactics to push their pre-programmed One Big Idea -- i.e., that straight white gentile American males are "privileged" bad people, and everybody else are "oppressed" good people.

    So maybe the way to look at the issue is to figure out why they think their (to us) insane rhetoric is going to work on anybody.
  69. @Oleaginous Outrager
    MLK Day has delivered to us an extraordinary gift:

    https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1087327713277460481

    The design for the campaign’s T-shirts has already been leaked by her election committee at the H.R. Haggard consultancy:

  70. @Svigor
    I dunno about her application, but the underlying statement is valid: pseudoFreudian psychobabble is really Jewy.

    Translation: the application was nonsense.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    Back to school for you. No translation needed: Freud was a European-hating, Jewish, quack.
  71. @anon
    She's going full Becky on the kid. Fails to realize soon there will be no safe targets for her bile.

    Will she end up autophaging?

  72. @DFH

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something? Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?
     
    Is that what she said? Trying to shame ordinary, healthy behaviour as Jewish psychiatrists from Freud to the authors of the Authoritarian Personality (sponsored by the American Jewish Committee) to the authors of the APA masculinity report, have done is indeed, extremely Jewy.

    Read the context before you try to ride in.

    • Replies: @DFH
    You're right, her point was in fact much stupider than my initial interpretation
  73. @Prester John
    Is it me but are these young so-called "journalists" basically exorcising their personal demons in print.

    Journalism as therapy. Feel better soon, Jessica.

    ‘Is it me but are these young so-called “journalists” basically exorcising their personal demons in print.

    Journalism as therapy. Feel better soon, Jessica.’

    Valenti can’t be that young. She had a regular column and was irritating and annoying me a good ten years ago.

    …Everybody was always mean to her in the comments section of her articles. She actually got the comments turned off for her column so that people couldn’t be mean to her any more.

  74. What’s really annoying is that the boys school and diocese are still throwing them under the bus.

    https://www.covdio.org/

    A MESSAGE FROM THE DIOCESE OF COVINGTON AND COVINGTON CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL

    We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general, Jan. 18, after the March for Life, in Washington, D.C. We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person.
    The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion.
    We know this incident also has tainted the entire witness of the March for Life and express our most sincere apologies to all those who attended the March and all those who support the pro-life movement.

    The Diocese of Covington and Covington Catholic High School

    (than just down the page they plug the March For Life. Hypocrites, vipers!)

    “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

  75. @Anonymous
    Is Nicholas Sandmann Jewish?

    No. He said in his statement that he is Catholic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    He may be a practicing Catholic, but of Jewish descent.
  76. Is this supposed to be humor?

    Please, leave humor to the experts. You just make yourselves look silly.

  77. Seems like we’re burying the lede here?

    In beginning the full 2-hour video, shot by the Black Israelites, the black Israelites confront an Indian woman, as well as other assorted Indian demonstrators, denouncing them as common ” savages,” and other well known pejorative related to Indian culture.

    You can’t miss it, unless you’re a journalist or editor for the New York Times.

  78. @Tyrion 2
    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them. It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not "idle".

    Take a look at:

    Steven Hicks.
    _Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault_.
    2006.

    See also his lecture on Youtube.com.

    His work is a useful field guide.

    The most difficult thing when working with Postmodernists is remembering that, for them, nothing is real, words are weapons, logic an oppression, and social status is all because only groups exist. They can’t live in the a realist/individualist society needed for industrialization, and seeing people who can fills them with hatred, makes them furiously angry. Hatred is, after all, an emotion invoked by anything that seriously threatens your life.

    The people who attacked the kid did not do so because they jumped to conclusions. They started with hatred for the kids, and grabbed any half way plausible (to their group) explanations for their hatred. It’s the old Copernican Revolution idea that Kant used. With postmodernists, put hatred rather than faith in in the center of the system. Makes them a lot easier to deal with.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    The most difficult thing when working with Postmodernists is remembering that, for them, nothing is real, words are weapons, ... and social status is all because only groups exist.
     
    Citation please?
  79. The supposed Vietnam-era Indian vet is a life-long activist who has learned his lessons well from experts like MK Gandhi. Gandhi insisted that it isn’t enough to be moral or right in your home or talking with your friends; you must challenge the ruling order. Poke the lion in the eye. The march to the sea to disobey British law to make salt is a classic example.

    This Indian guy was walking along, and was drawn in by the MAGA hats and the knowledge that everyone has a cell phone video camera. If you want to call beating a drum in someone’s face a “native American peace song” or something like that, sure, go ahead. But the purpose is to force a bad reaction.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Gandhi insisted that it isn’t enough to be moral or right in your home or talking with your friends
     
    Did Gandhi actually state that these things ARE necessary?
  80. @clyde
    The Indian is probably a veteran who lives on a large mental disability check from the military. Though I doubt he ever fought any Viet Cong.
    The lib media promoted him as an "Indian Elder" who was massively disrespected by white Catholic boys. Reality is he is an old kook.

    The Indian is probably a veteran who lives on a large mental disability check

    Native Man Who Harassed Catholic Teens Linked To Big Money Left-Wing Activism

    “[Phillips] is a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance,” according to Heavy.

    …the larger well-funded Native Youth Leadership … is currently promoting Phillips’ fundraising campaign stemming from the incident with the Catholic teens.

    The Native Youth Leadership Alliance (NYLA) is a non-profit organization that is funded by the same far-left power players who are often involved in bankrolling leftist causes. The organization’s funding partners include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Social Justice Fund Northwest.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Thank you so much. I assumed it was something like that.
  81. @WJ
    Correct. There is almost no way this guy was in VN if he was born in 1955. The last of the regular infantry units came in 71 and all that was left were some advisers and air crews before the final pullout in 73. Assuming he turned 18 in 73 there was not much chance he graduated basic and advanced training before 74 so who knows, perhaps he was part of the final evacuation in 75. I would have to see his DD 214 before I believed that.

    Of course if you say "native American Vietnam vet" all rationality goes out the window.

    Anyone who sat through The Deer Hunter qualifies in my book.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Don't get me started.
  82. Women like Valenti are a dime a dozen in NYC. Raised in broken, dysfunctional homes but with the veneer of NYC privilege and worldliness, they cling to feminism and other depravity and castigate the strong men who never rode into save them from the city predators targeting them and mommy and daddy not bothering to care.

    And then they get drunk and try to hook up with said strong men when their weak boyfriends aren’t looking. Skanks to the end, but cocktails showing what they really want.

    Heartiste is right; a cocky smirk is everything.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    There’s a lot of them in California. They claim to be more sophisticated and educated than we rube Californians.

    Most claim to have been molested by stepfathers. They spend their lives wailing about it in support groups.
    So many transplanted New Yorkers claim molestation by step fathers I’ve grieb very skeptical about the claims.
  83. Remember when Pussy Riot’s smirks were called “smiles” by the left leaning media? And something we should all admire them for?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/protests-at-pussy-riot-trial

  84. @anon
    "Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world."

    Dude, your're the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to "save" his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    There are more options than “priesthood” and “crazy aunt Valenti”, I tell you.

  85. @reactionry
    "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single white man in possession of a good fortune must never be in want of a smirk."

    - Jane Austen: Snide & Prejudice

    LOL–well done reactionry.

  86. @Paleo Liberal
    You are an elder when people in your tribe call you an elder.
    Seriously, that is what it is.

    Some people are never Indian elders no matter how old because they don’t have contact with their tribe.

    One famous ancestor of mine became a Cherokee elder when she was a widow with two kids at the age of 17.

    My mother is 90 and not a tribal elder, but her younger sister is. My aunt lives in Cherokee country in Oklahoma while my mother does not.

    One famous ancestor of mine became a Cherokee elder when she was a widow with two kids at the age of 17.

    (Big Squaw Warren is this guy’s grandma.)

  87. He did not know how long she had been looking at him, but perhaps for as much as five minutes, and it was possible that his features had not been perfectly under control. … The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous
    tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, … In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offence. There was even a word for it in New speak: FACECRIME, it was called.

  88. @EliteCommInc.
    Vietnam ended in 1973 for the US.

    According to the DoD and VA the Viet Nam Era ended May 7, 1975.

    Being in the military between 1964 and May 7, 1975 means you are a “wartime era” vet of Viet Nam.

  89. I honestly haven’t stopped thinking about that MAGA kid all day – in part because I think so many of us have been on the receiving end of the face he was making: a smug, untouchable, entitled ‘fuck you’.

    Jessica was raised in NYC and attended the elite (though public) Stuyvesant High. Stuyvesant has an entire, separate Wikipedia page of notable alumni. Covington Catholic’s “notable alumni” consists entirely of about a half-dozen athletes. So who is the privileged one, exactly: Jessica or this kid?

    And WTF is ‘prep school smirk’? What does it even mean?

    Here’s an idea: if you can’t imagine, or have never seen, said entitled smirk on anyone other than a young, white, attractive teenage boy, then ‘prep school smirk’ doesn’t exist. It’s an optical illusion imposed on the teenager by your own envy and biases. To be an actual facial expression with explicit meaning doesn’t it have to be an expression pretty much anyone can give?

    Can you imagine seeing that ‘entitled smirk’ on a girl? On a 17-year-old boy with bad acne dressed in overalls? No. It’s a psychological imposition of your own envy on that boy. You’re envious of his youth, his good looks, his (presumed) wealth and good parenting. And that’s all there is to it. There are plenty of assholes out there, young white prep school boys and otherwise. Having finished high school and lived in the real world for quite some time now I can tell you that there is absolutely no shortage of entitled, smug, arrogant assholes among the non-white, non-male, non-prep school population.

    And why is the Leftist media going stark raving mad about this (presumably) privileged, probably underage private school kid? They bent over backwards to protect Chelsea and Sasha and Malia from public scrutiny, even as those privileged daughters of powerful parents attended private schools with tuitions higher than the incomes of about 50% of working Americans.

    Oh and BTW, isn’t it kinda racist to assume that a 16/17/18 year old white boy should be better behaved than an Indian man 3-4 times his age? How dare we expect Indians to know how to behave? They’re just dumb, ignorant, probably alcoholic…oh wait, nevermind…

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Jessica was raised in NYC and attended the elite (though public) Stuyvesant High. Stuyvesant has an entire, separate Wikipedia page of notable alumni. Covington Catholic’s “notable alumni” consists entirely of about a half-dozen athletes. So who is the privileged one, exactly: Jessica or this kid?
     
    Anyone really "privileged" in Cincinnati lives north of the river ;-)
    , @Anonymous
    And WTF is ‘prep school smirk’? What does it even mean?

    It’s probably the reaction she’s gotten from good-looking, upper middle class guys over the years when she’s told them she’s a feminist.
    , @Anonymous
    OK and interesting... Jessica Valenti went to Stuyvesant...

    I did not know that, but this explains much....

    I've been familiar with her for years, and she is clearly a smarter than average white chick. She has also clearly embraced the idea that her true role is to be a slut. But a high IQ white slut won't do well at Stuyvesant. I went to a high school very much like that, a few years ahead, it seems, and the fact is that there were just not enough guys, either white or Asian, who were prepared to give the wannabe hot white sluts what they wanted. Sorry. Life can be a b*tch.
  90. @Jack D
    So someone born in 1955 is a "native elder"? He's not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for "native elder" status?

    200 years ago at age 64, he would have lost all his teeth and been unable to chew his jerky.
    The tribe would have sent him out into the blizzard to die and be eaten by the wolves.

  91. @DFH
    Just for the sake of clarification, can someone please explain what facial expressions are permissible for a catholic, white teenager to make while being harassed by a creepy old Indian man?

    Liberals, the entirety of 2018: Think about the kids!

    Liberals, 2019: Addendum:Actually, we encourage you to destroy the lives of kids if they’re white male Christian kids.

  92. @Bill P
    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others'. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I'm pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn't stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that's to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn't the boys' fault that a man wasn't present.

    So, here's the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don't yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It's reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and "choice" (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won't take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others’. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    Well said Bill P. I hadn’t bothered to try to flesh out my take on any of these threads, but this is it.

    Creepy Indian attention whore pushed into their HS crowd waiting for the bus and banged the drum in this kid’s face. But rather than run away, he just–awkwardly but solidly–stood his ground. He managed to tolerate the guy’s aggression, avoid being provoked and showed real class. (My 17 year old self might well have lost it and told the guy to get his ‘effing drum outta my face.)

    The amazing thing–or would be amazing if we weren’t used to this insanity–is these leftists watching this Indian keep banging his drum in the kid’s face … and the kids are being jerks? Even with the video stripped of all context, you’d think there would be some pause? Hmm, which is more likely these Catholic HS kids on a field trip surround and harass these Indian protesters, or the attention seeking protesters went up to them seeking attention. Hello, attention seeking is why they–unlike the HS kids–are banging the drum on the mall in the first place.

    Kudos to Nick Sandmann for both keeping cool and still holding his ground. Well done.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    Hello, attention seeking is why they–unlike the HS kids–are banging the drum on the mall in the first place.
     
    Banging on a drum is the very definition of attention seeking but the media completely missed this (and completely skipped over the "Black Hebrews" who had been cursing and insulting these poor kids non-stop for an hour). In Leftist terms only white people have agency, so blacks cursing whites means nothing, an Indian approaching a white boy and banging a drum in his face means nothing, but an awkward smile ("smirk") is action (horrible RACIST action) because it was done by a white. Can you imagine what the media storm would have been like if the boys gave into the provocations and were filmed striking back verbally or physically? A smirk created a firestorm. For a blow they would have had to dynamite St. Patrick's.
  93. @Rosie
    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can't we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?

    Agree. She is simply a Communist who is just obeying her orders issued from the Commintern. As are all the other media figures who are simultaneously reporting on this issue with the same identical viewpoint.

  94. I haven’t watched more than 4 minutes of this business but I asmire all of em who were in the arena.

    All the critics on the sideline are weirdos with sexual issues who obsess over a fun little word and dance tussle they would have given a wide berth if they were on the area – which they wouldn’t have been anyway, what with “Living” being so out of fashion these days.

    I’ve had more interactions with Black Israelite groups than anyone here (I secretly hope someone corrects me with a cool life experience story) and more interaction with Native Americans than 99% of you, and more recent interactions with high schoolers than most of the non-parent non-teacher over 35s here (kids are interesting in ways that adults aren’t and vice versa). And I Never Pass by a protest without joining in the fun unless circumstances absolutely demand otherwise.

    Yes, the culture is anti white males to an insane degree. Kafkaesque in every aspect. Okay! But instead of getting high blood pressure from it remember that you’re also going to get sick and decrepit and die and – who knows? – maybe suffer in anguish for all eternity.

    Also if you have kids, instead of worrying about “the climate” for the next generation of white americans, worry about all of the horrifying or depressing things that are far more likely to happen to them than that they get watsoned for facing off against an injun and it being viral videoed.

    Anyway, whatever it is that everyone is whining about here from the Right, the Left, the Up and the Sideways I differ. I’m with the folks in the arena. (Espescially those of the African Israelites who shout [some actually believe their bs and preach, they kinna suck], the Injin who ooohwahhhehheeeeyhooooeed his way into the kids and most especially that super happy smirkey boy standing his ground before Drumming Badger.

    And again, you’re gonna die and maybe burn in hell forever so whenever you get too worked up about the fate of some moonface boy from Kentucky remember that death and an unknown eternity stand before you just a short while away.

    (countdown to comment approval 😉 )

    • Replies: @J.Ross

    Also if you have kids, instead of worrying about “the climate” for the next generation of white americans, worry about all of the horrifying or depressing things that are far more likely to happen to them than that they get watsoned for facing off against an injun and it being viral videoed.
     
    This is nonsense. The stasis are new, contrary to our traditions, and highly vulnerable if we can get people to see how ridiculous they are like in the 90s, but a very real threat if we do not. Other threats are not necessarily avoidable and do not have the inappropriateness or vulnerability of the stasis. Furthermore, almost every bad thing ties back into leftist cultural destruction: crime (immigration), deliberate misgrading (long march through the institutions), career problems (stasism).
    , @Anonymous
    What point are you trying to make?
  95. @RichardTaylor
    This is the world we are leaving our White children! Somehow, we have to get the moral courage to demand safe spaces and safe communities for White children to grow up in and live full lives.

    Nothing short of that will work. I'm afraid the lack of courage by previous generations makes our job that much harder. But it must be done.

    So our white children will have to grow up and live like prisoners as whites in South Africa do.

    • Replies: @reactionry
    Or worse:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9430173/South-African-12-year-old-drowned-in-boiling-water-after-seeing-parents-killed.html

    "Amaro Jose Viana, a South African of Portuguese descent" likely spoke some of the "divine language" popularlized in "The Fifth Element," some of which was translated as "Never without my permission" and had earlier been uttered by Vasco da Gama: "Ecto Gammat!"
    Bruce Willis successfully apologizes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFkR43j8fY
    and later when the Supreme Being (the underage "Leeloo"/Milla Jovovich) needs a pick-me-up, does some "Korben Dallas" cheerleading.
    And no, nutjobs, Gary Oldman/"Zorg" ≠ ZOG

    Too soon? Well, without some reminders, even if off-the-wall, such harbingers of white South African doom are too soon forgotten.

  96. @Paleo Liberal
    You are an elder when people in your tribe call you an elder.
    Seriously, that is what it is.

    Some people are never Indian elders no matter how old because they don’t have contact with their tribe.

    One famous ancestor of mine became a Cherokee elder when she was a widow with two kids at the age of 17.

    My mother is 90 and not a tribal elder, but her younger sister is. My aunt lives in Cherokee country in Oklahoma while my mother does not.

    man, why can’t we have a thread where people all introduce themselves and share interesting s*** like this.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    I agree.
    Maybe Steve could do that.
    , @silviosilver

    man, why can’t we have a thread where people all introduce themselves and share interesting s*** like this.
     
    Translation: why can't you goy animals stop worrying so much about assaults on your interests and post trivialities instead?
  97. @Anonymous
    Is Nicholas Sandmann Jewish?

    Not bloody likely considering that he goes to Catholic school. Also usually -mann with 2 n’s is usually (but not always) German, not Jewish. Most often Jewish -man’s have 1 n but there is no hard and fast rule either way.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Well he might be of Jewish descent even if he was brought up Catholic. Catholic-Jewish marriages are common.
  98. @Svigor
    Don't these White goys know they don't have the privilege to protect each other?

    igorevich, you’re a goy. and it sucks. merry hannuka bush.

  99. @anon
    "Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world."

    Dude, your're the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to "save" his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    Typical ‘anon’ comment and a deliberate misreading of his post. Shame on you.

  100. @Jack D
    So someone born in 1955 is a "native elder"? He's not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for "native elder" status?

    The heavy drinking prematurely ages you.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    The heavy drinking prematurely ages you.
     
    Isn't alcohol a preservative?
  101. @Jack D
    Rosie offers her diagnosis of you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRQijskAMp4

    Where’s the lie, tho?

  102. @Anon
    I was feeling a little cognitive dissonance reading the statement of Nick Sandmann, and then it hit me: This was a coherent, pellucid, grammatical, correctly spelled, properly punctuated piece of writing. By a high school student. There were no $20 thesaurus words used incorrectly. And there was no social science jargon, nor was "they" used as a singular personal pronoun.

    A high school student can still write like we did in the old days, while the WE DEMAND manifesto crowd at universities write like retarded grade schoolers?

    It occurred to me that he might have run it by someone else to copyedit it. But you know, the WE DEMAND crowd could do that too, but they don't, and that in itself is a sign of stupidity. Smart people make their own environment, and that environment may include asking for help.

    Agreed. I thought it was a little too meek, but it was very well and clearly written. Anyone could read it and get a good sense of what had happened from this kid’s perspective, which would effectively flip the script from the left/establishment attack on him.

    This kid’s a gem.

    And yeah, the writing in these leftist manifestos–appalling. I guess the Jewish kids are too scared to edit and correct the drivel the blacks write. It’s embarassing. And doubly embarassing that universities capitulate to people who can’t even write coherent sentences.

  103. @Wilkey
    I honestly haven't stopped thinking about that MAGA kid all day – in part because I think so many of us have been on the receiving end of the face he was making: a smug, untouchable, entitled 'fuck you'.

    Jessica was raised in NYC and attended the elite (though public) Stuyvesant High. Stuyvesant has an entire, separate Wikipedia page of notable alumni. Covington Catholic's "notable alumni" consists entirely of about a half-dozen athletes. So who is the privileged one, exactly: Jessica or this kid?

    And WTF is 'prep school smirk'? What does it even mean?

    Here's an idea: if you can't imagine, or have never seen, said entitled smirk on anyone other than a young, white, attractive teenage boy, then 'prep school smirk' doesn't exist. It's an optical illusion imposed on the teenager by your own envy and biases. To be an actual facial expression with explicit meaning doesn't it have to be an expression pretty much anyone can give?

    Can you imagine seeing that 'entitled smirk' on a girl? On a 17-year-old boy with bad acne dressed in overalls? No. It's a psychological imposition of your own envy on that boy. You're envious of his youth, his good looks, his (presumed) wealth and good parenting. And that's all there is to it. There are plenty of assholes out there, young white prep school boys and otherwise. Having finished high school and lived in the real world for quite some time now I can tell you that there is absolutely no shortage of entitled, smug, arrogant assholes among the non-white, non-male, non-prep school population.

    And why is the Leftist media going stark raving mad about this (presumably) privileged, probably underage private school kid? They bent over backwards to protect Chelsea and Sasha and Malia from public scrutiny, even as those privileged daughters of powerful parents attended private schools with tuitions higher than the incomes of about 50% of working Americans.

    Oh and BTW, isn't it kinda racist to assume that a 16/17/18 year old white boy should be better behaved than an Indian man 3-4 times his age? How dare we expect Indians to know how to behave? They're just dumb, ignorant, probably alcoholic...oh wait, nevermind...

    Jessica was raised in NYC and attended the elite (though public) Stuyvesant High. Stuyvesant has an entire, separate Wikipedia page of notable alumni. Covington Catholic’s “notable alumni” consists entirely of about a half-dozen athletes. So who is the privileged one, exactly: Jessica or this kid?

    Anyone really “privileged” in Cincinnati lives north of the river 😉

  104. @PennTothal
    If you want a vision of the future, imagine a hand-held tom-tom drum banging, loudly, in a human face - forever.

    I’m stealing this.

  105. @Tyrion 2
    Read the context before you try to ride in.

    You’re right, her point was in fact much stupider than my initial interpretation

  106. @Jack D
    Not bloody likely considering that he goes to Catholic school. Also usually -mann with 2 n's is usually (but not always) German, not Jewish. Most often Jewish -man's have 1 n but there is no hard and fast rule either way.

    Well he might be of Jewish descent even if he was brought up Catholic. Catholic-Jewish marriages are common.

  107. from 1984 by orwell:

    “It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself – anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: Facecrime, it was called. “

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    "Facecrime, it was called".

    And will be again, very soon.
  108. Backup plan time! Sure, the harassment-by-smiling story fell apart, but we’ve found another way to attack the future Kavanaughs at Covington Catholic. From the NY Daily News:

    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-sports-covington-nathan-phillips-nick-sandmann-20190121-story.html

    A Twitter photo, apparently sourced from a “cannabis health consultant”, shows crowd members at a Covington basketball game in “blackface” (also known as paint that matches the crowd color) and engaged in “verbal abuse” of black players (also known as cheering against the other team).

    • Replies: @Another Canadian
    It's called a "blackout" game. Common in competitive sports, especially big games against arch rivals. The players wear special black versions of their jerseys. The fans are encouraged to wear black and paint themselves black. Come on, even a Canadian knows this.
  109. @Tyrion 2
    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them. It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not "idle".

    It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not “idle”.

    What is “interesting” about speculating about other people’s’ sexual fantasies that, in any case, you cannot prove one way or the other?

    Nothing.

    And there is certainly nothing practical about any of it, unless the intent is to weaponize your speculations against others. Of course, if you’ve already evaluated their ideas on the merits and found them wanting, then you can just, you know, argue the merits.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    You really see no practical purpose in understanding why someone does something?

    You also really believe that arguing it on the merits without understanding the above is going to get you anywhere with most people?

    Are you 12?

    No, you don't believe that. You're just embarrassed by how dumb your original comment was and rather than moving on you're doubling down like a buffoon.

    Amazing...
  110. @WJ
    Correct. There is almost no way this guy was in VN if he was born in 1955. The last of the regular infantry units came in 71 and all that was left were some advisers and air crews before the final pullout in 73. Assuming he turned 18 in 73 there was not much chance he graduated basic and advanced training before 74 so who knows, perhaps he was part of the final evacuation in 75. I would have to see his DD 214 before I believed that.

    Of course if you say "native American Vietnam vet" all rationality goes out the window.

    I’m still confused — I thought the left hated Vietnam vets.

  111. If nothing else this story illustrates the value of the internet when it comes to exposing false news chicanery. Imagine how the original report would have played in the Age of the Three Networks.

    Definitely a bad week for the propaganda outlets. First the Buzz Feed fiasco and now this. One can only wonder if these occurrences will awaken the American public as to how they have been bamboozled over the years.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "If nothing else this story illustrates the value of the internet when it comes to exposing false news chicanery."

    And yet the Fake Charlottesville Narrative remains intact and IIRC the poor driver is doing a huge sentence. In fact several hate-tweeters managed to shoehorn the death of that hefty woman into their outraged tweets against Smiling While Catholic.
  112. @Hypnotoad666
    So subtle announcing on MLK day: "Hey everybody, I'm running for President, and did I mention I'm Black."

    Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.

    All the Dem candidates should have to take that test to qualify for this intersectional battle — call the resulting report 2020 and Me

  113. @Daniel H
    Jessica Valenti's wedding photo. Look at that arched back, the recoil, the repulsion, the disgust, the total fucking-settling-for-less, even though her beau is a Harvard boi. Sad. Sad.

    It will be better Jessica, if you just be one of us.

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/10/18/fashion/vows.sub.600.jpg

    His hand being in his pocket is even weirder than her body language.

    • Agree: Liza
  114. @Anon
    I was feeling a little cognitive dissonance reading the statement of Nick Sandmann, and then it hit me: This was a coherent, pellucid, grammatical, correctly spelled, properly punctuated piece of writing. By a high school student. There were no $20 thesaurus words used incorrectly. And there was no social science jargon, nor was "they" used as a singular personal pronoun.

    A high school student can still write like we did in the old days, while the WE DEMAND manifesto crowd at universities write like retarded grade schoolers?

    It occurred to me that he might have run it by someone else to copyedit it. But you know, the WE DEMAND crowd could do that too, but they don't, and that in itself is a sign of stupidity. Smart people make their own environment, and that environment may include asking for help.

    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant. This is not how high school juniors write.

    The last sentence gives a clue as to who helped him write it:

    I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

    As he expresses in the statement, he was in no way prepared to be thrust into the middle of a modern Leftist media lynching on his own. I am glad that the Diocese is providing him with help and they should not stand by while their students (and by extension, their entire religion) is slandered by people who are probably atheists and who do not wish them well.

    I was also shocked during the Kavanaugh hearings to see how much anti-Catholic sentiment was openly expressed on the Left. In the old days, Republicans were supposedly the ones who were anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc. but nowaday the supposedly “open minded” Left finds excuses to criticize Catholics, Jews, Christian Fundamentalists, etc. (but never Muslims) – they are (supposedly) not opposed to their religions per se, but they say they oppose them because they don’t like Israel, their anti-abortion stance, etc. I have a hard time telling this apart from plain old-fashioned religious prejudice.

    But don’t be fooled into thinking that this is something that Nick wrote by himself and then the adults just edited it a little. Probably he was interviewed by professionals and then the factual elements of the interview were edited into this statement. Some of the sentiments, such as thanking the Indian for his service, were probably completely added by the adults. There is nothing wrong with this but don’t mistake Nick for some sort of boy genius. He is just a regular kid who was thrust into a media firestorm.

    • Agree: Big Bill
    • Replies: @RationalExpressions
    I don’t doubt that what you say may be true concerning the writing of the letter. But if the reaction was of a “regular kid” as you state then I guess things are shaping up better than I thought. His holding frame in that surreal, chaotic environment seemed nothing like regular to me. Especially for someone not raised in big city madness being accosted by not one, but two, groups of DC lunatics while just enjoying an afternoon on the Mall with his classmates. He also had the presence of mind to shush the student who was taking the bait from the vocal Indian. Did the drum banger sense to go right up to him, as leader of the boys? The boy was definitely not a regular kid when it came to instinctively dealing with group dynamics in uncharted territory.
    , @vinteuil

    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant.
     
    Agreed. If he wrote it himself, he's in the top tenth of 1% of guys his age in writing ability.

    On the other hand, way back when was I teaching Freshmen as a Schmidt Fellow at the University of Chicago, I encountered three or four students who really could write that well - and I think they were all products of Parochial schools.
    , @Anon
    I’m glad Nick has legal counsel. I understood the school and the diocese denounced him.

    Nathan Phillips has done this kind of thing before.
    , @Anon
    Liberals have always been anti catholic for whatever reason is current. I remember about 1970, I used to take the kids to the zoo pretty regularly. I was standing in line one day. A group of looked like 6 grade girls in uniforms were going in. and a woman next to me said very loudly “ look at them, Catholics, they’ll be popping out 6 kids in the next 10 years”

    I quietly told her the girls were from Katharine Burke’s school, not catholic . totally secular. The woman just snarled so what if they’re not catholic and went on a loud diatribe about over population and the pope.

    A few years later she was all over the newspaper as a lesbian advocate for gay adoption. When AIDS hit she was against closing the bathhouses against the health department keeping track of AIDS and against medical providers wearing gloves when caring for AIDS patients.

    Wish I’d known at the time that the 1920 30s KKK wanted to close down all the catholic schools and succeeded for a short time in Kentucky and oh so progressive Oregon. I could have told her what she had in common with the KKK. Interesting that I had 2 toddlers with me and she didn’t care about them overpopulating the earth.

    But the sight of those school uniforms triggered her outburst.
  115. @Wilkey
    I honestly haven't stopped thinking about that MAGA kid all day – in part because I think so many of us have been on the receiving end of the face he was making: a smug, untouchable, entitled 'fuck you'.

    Jessica was raised in NYC and attended the elite (though public) Stuyvesant High. Stuyvesant has an entire, separate Wikipedia page of notable alumni. Covington Catholic's "notable alumni" consists entirely of about a half-dozen athletes. So who is the privileged one, exactly: Jessica or this kid?

    And WTF is 'prep school smirk'? What does it even mean?

    Here's an idea: if you can't imagine, or have never seen, said entitled smirk on anyone other than a young, white, attractive teenage boy, then 'prep school smirk' doesn't exist. It's an optical illusion imposed on the teenager by your own envy and biases. To be an actual facial expression with explicit meaning doesn't it have to be an expression pretty much anyone can give?

    Can you imagine seeing that 'entitled smirk' on a girl? On a 17-year-old boy with bad acne dressed in overalls? No. It's a psychological imposition of your own envy on that boy. You're envious of his youth, his good looks, his (presumed) wealth and good parenting. And that's all there is to it. There are plenty of assholes out there, young white prep school boys and otherwise. Having finished high school and lived in the real world for quite some time now I can tell you that there is absolutely no shortage of entitled, smug, arrogant assholes among the non-white, non-male, non-prep school population.

    And why is the Leftist media going stark raving mad about this (presumably) privileged, probably underage private school kid? They bent over backwards to protect Chelsea and Sasha and Malia from public scrutiny, even as those privileged daughters of powerful parents attended private schools with tuitions higher than the incomes of about 50% of working Americans.

    Oh and BTW, isn't it kinda racist to assume that a 16/17/18 year old white boy should be better behaved than an Indian man 3-4 times his age? How dare we expect Indians to know how to behave? They're just dumb, ignorant, probably alcoholic...oh wait, nevermind...

    And WTF is ‘prep school smirk’? What does it even mean?

    It’s probably the reaction she’s gotten from good-looking, upper middle class guys over the years when she’s told them she’s a feminist.

  116. Our lad looks a bit Hebraic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Our lad looks a bit Hebraic.

    The statement he put out indicates good verbal ability.
  117. @Hypnotoad666
    So subtle announcing on MLK day: "Hey everybody, I'm running for President, and did I mention I'm Black."

    Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.

    ‘…Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.’

    25% at most. One half is Indian — the half that raised her — while the other half is Jamaican, but I’d guess one of those high yaller ones. I’d hold out for 12.5%.

    It’s tedious. Full blacks are very, very rare in national politics. They’re just too damned dumb. So the beneficiaries of all the pro-black sentiment tend to be people like Harris, Holder, Obama, Rice…

    As a rule, they’ve never been victims of anything. On the contrary, they’ve lived lives of privilege and entitlement from the day they first demonstrated they were bright enough to do a passable imitation of ordinary white behavior — or even, in Obama’s case at least, from the day of their birth.

    The sheer absurdity of it grates on me. Take Obama. Note only is he one half white, and not only was he brought up in a cocoon of wealth and privilege — elite private schools, etc — but even the black half is from Kenya, on the opposite side of the continent from where our blacks hail from.

    On the whole, it’s as if Irish Americans fell over themselves to vote for a half-Pole, half Japanese who’d been raised in a Tibetan monastery on the grounds that he was a bit of the old sod. It’s ridiculous.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    25% at most. One half is Indian — the half that raised her — while the other half is Jamaican, but I’d guess one of those high yaller ones. I’d hold out for 12.5%.
     
    The other thing to remember is that the average African American is already about 25% European ancestry. So a half-black American is maybe 37.5% or less African. I get the one drop rule and all, but at some point real Blacks have to say: "Nah, your not quite one of us."

    Obama also had the good political sense to marry back into "the community." Kamala on the the other hand, married a Jewish corporate lawyer.

    If someone really wanted to mess with Kamala's campaign they'd start referring to her as potentially the first "East Indian" President. Or nickname her the "Tamil Tigress." Without her Black cred she'd be a third-tier candidate at best.
  118. Why are we supposed to have special respect for an old Indian because someone calls him an “Elder.” That honorific has no significance in our culture. it’s their thing, not ours. I think all elderly people are entitled to some extra respect and deference, but not because their group calls them an Elder. This guy sounds like an annoying old coot, so I’m not going to cut him any slack.

    • Replies: @vinteuil

    This guy sounds like an annoying old coot...
     
    ...not to mention a shameless liar. His account of what happened, instantly lapped up by the media whores (including the usual suspects on the pretend right), is demonstrably false in almost every respect.

    He needs a serious a$$-kicking.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Harry, I worked with dozens of Native Americans, never met an elder or a chief.
  119. @AnotherDad

    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others’. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.
     
    Well said Bill P. I hadn't bothered to try to flesh out my take on any of these threads, but this is it.

    Creepy Indian attention whore pushed into their HS crowd waiting for the bus and banged the drum in this kid's face. But rather than run away, he just--awkwardly but solidly--stood his ground. He managed to tolerate the guy's aggression, avoid being provoked and showed real class. (My 17 year old self might well have lost it and told the guy to get his 'effing drum outta my face.)


    The amazing thing--or would be amazing if we weren't used to this insanity--is these leftists watching this Indian keep banging his drum in the kid's face … and the kids are being jerks? Even with the video stripped of all context, you'd think there would be some pause? Hmm, which is more likely these Catholic HS kids on a field trip surround and harass these Indian protesters, or the attention seeking protesters went up to them seeking attention. Hello, attention seeking is why they--unlike the HS kids--are banging the drum on the mall in the first place.

    Kudos to Nick Sandmann for both keeping cool and still holding his ground. Well done.

    Hello, attention seeking is why they–unlike the HS kids–are banging the drum on the mall in the first place.

    Banging on a drum is the very definition of attention seeking but the media completely missed this (and completely skipped over the “Black Hebrews” who had been cursing and insulting these poor kids non-stop for an hour). In Leftist terms only white people have agency, so blacks cursing whites means nothing, an Indian approaching a white boy and banging a drum in his face means nothing, but an awkward smile (“smirk”) is action (horrible RACIST action) because it was done by a white. Can you imagine what the media storm would have been like if the boys gave into the provocations and were filmed striking back verbally or physically? A smirk created a firestorm. For a blow they would have had to dynamite St. Patrick’s.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    My favorite Black Hebrew I actually met at Hialeah Park, back in the day. For a eye-opener, read WIKI for Yahweh ben Yahweh. Had to kill a Whitey to get in. Had his own YbY day here in 1990.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_ben_Yahweh
    , @J.Ross
    The fact that the mass media completely ignores the objectively entertaining Black Israelites except for an old Howard Stern recording and a Louis Theroux program is amazing, it stamps the Soviet top quality mark on their handiwork.
    The textbook illustration of the state of journalism for the Trump years should be these college graduates choosing to memory hole the Black Israelites (think Parliament Funkadelic on a shared bad trip -- costumes, vocabulary, ideology, street theater) to defame Catholic school kids who did literally nothing at a public rally.
  120. @Jack D
    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant. This is not how high school juniors write.

    The last sentence gives a clue as to who helped him write it:


    I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.
     
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

    As he expresses in the statement, he was in no way prepared to be thrust into the middle of a modern Leftist media lynching on his own. I am glad that the Diocese is providing him with help and they should not stand by while their students (and by extension, their entire religion) is slandered by people who are probably atheists and who do not wish them well.

    I was also shocked during the Kavanaugh hearings to see how much anti-Catholic sentiment was openly expressed on the Left. In the old days, Republicans were supposedly the ones who were anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc. but nowaday the supposedly "open minded" Left finds excuses to criticize Catholics, Jews, Christian Fundamentalists, etc. (but never Muslims) - they are (supposedly) not opposed to their religions per se, but they say they oppose them because they don't like Israel, their anti-abortion stance, etc. I have a hard time telling this apart from plain old-fashioned religious prejudice.

    But don't be fooled into thinking that this is something that Nick wrote by himself and then the adults just edited it a little. Probably he was interviewed by professionals and then the factual elements of the interview were edited into this statement. Some of the sentiments, such as thanking the Indian for his service, were probably completely added by the adults. There is nothing wrong with this but don't mistake Nick for some sort of boy genius. He is just a regular kid who was thrust into a media firestorm.

    I don’t doubt that what you say may be true concerning the writing of the letter. But if the reaction was of a “regular kid” as you state then I guess things are shaping up better than I thought. His holding frame in that surreal, chaotic environment seemed nothing like regular to me. Especially for someone not raised in big city madness being accosted by not one, but two, groups of DC lunatics while just enjoying an afternoon on the Mall with his classmates. He also had the presence of mind to shush the student who was taking the bait from the vocal Indian. Did the drum banger sense to go right up to him, as leader of the boys? The boy was definitely not a regular kid when it came to instinctively dealing with group dynamics in uncharted territory.

  121. “The smirk that launched a thousand feminist ships”

    • Replies: @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    I'm out of LOLs, so LOL.
  122. @Jack D
    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant. This is not how high school juniors write.

    The last sentence gives a clue as to who helped him write it:


    I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.
     
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

    As he expresses in the statement, he was in no way prepared to be thrust into the middle of a modern Leftist media lynching on his own. I am glad that the Diocese is providing him with help and they should not stand by while their students (and by extension, their entire religion) is slandered by people who are probably atheists and who do not wish them well.

    I was also shocked during the Kavanaugh hearings to see how much anti-Catholic sentiment was openly expressed on the Left. In the old days, Republicans were supposedly the ones who were anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc. but nowaday the supposedly "open minded" Left finds excuses to criticize Catholics, Jews, Christian Fundamentalists, etc. (but never Muslims) - they are (supposedly) not opposed to their religions per se, but they say they oppose them because they don't like Israel, their anti-abortion stance, etc. I have a hard time telling this apart from plain old-fashioned religious prejudice.

    But don't be fooled into thinking that this is something that Nick wrote by himself and then the adults just edited it a little. Probably he was interviewed by professionals and then the factual elements of the interview were edited into this statement. Some of the sentiments, such as thanking the Indian for his service, were probably completely added by the adults. There is nothing wrong with this but don't mistake Nick for some sort of boy genius. He is just a regular kid who was thrust into a media firestorm.

    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant.

    Agreed. If he wrote it himself, he’s in the top tenth of 1% of guys his age in writing ability.

    On the other hand, way back when was I teaching Freshmen as a Schmidt Fellow at the University of Chicago, I encountered three or four students who really could write that well – and I think they were all products of Parochial schools.

  123. Who is Jessica Valenti and why would anyone cares what she thinks? Assuming, for the sake of argument, that she actually is capable of thinking.

  124. Had it been black kids actually beating up the Injuns, they would have been described as “teens” or “youths” if the story had been reported at all.

  125. I found this, of all places, on Deutsche Welle, so help me:

    http://www.dw.com/en/washington-rally-video-shows-catholic-teen-and-native-american-in-another-light/a-47172172

    The brains here on the site can investigate.

  126. @Harry Baldwin
    Why are we supposed to have special respect for an old Indian because someone calls him an “Elder.” That honorific has no significance in our culture. it’s their thing, not ours. I think all elderly people are entitled to some extra respect and deference, but not because their group calls them an Elder. This guy sounds like an annoying old coot, so I’m not going to cut him any slack.

    This guy sounds like an annoying old coot…

    …not to mention a shameless liar. His account of what happened, instantly lapped up by the media whores (including the usual suspects on the pretend right), is demonstrably false in almost every respect.

    He needs a serious a$$-kicking.

  127. @Bill P
    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others'. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I'm pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn't stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that's to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn't the boys' fault that a man wasn't present.

    So, here's the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don't yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It's reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and "choice" (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won't take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    Bill, I don’t have an answer for you, but for what it’s worth, yours is a very good comment.

  128. @Luke Lea
    Why hasn't NYT signed her up for a columnist yet?

    Ain’t that the truth.

  129. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill P
    I wonder how my own take when I see the boy can be so different from so many others'. I see a slightly awkward, nervous boy trying to hold it together in the face of hostility from a weirdo, and doing a decent job of it, but not quite handling the situation as well as an adult would, which is to be expected.

    If I were there I would have put myself between the boy and Mr. Phillips and the black Israelis. I'm pretty sure an adult was present, but whoever it was had no balls and didn't stick up for the boys. Of course, having no balls is pretty much a prerequisite for being employed in education these days, so I suppose that's to be expected. Nevertheless, it isn't the boys' fault that a man wasn't present.

    So, here's the weird thing about it:

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner. They are ascribing a power and virility that these kids don't yet have to their awkward juvenile behaviors and antics. It's reminiscent of homoerotic fantasies that pederasts regularly indulge in.

    Perhaps this explains in part the rash of female teachers committing adultery with their teenage boy charges. There was that tension when I was a high school kid way back in the 90s, and there was a sort of mutual hatred between the girls and the pretty young teachers, but there was also the understanding that the former had the first choice and upper hand. Because, after all, the boys were just kids.

    Maybe that has broken down, and the juvenile psyche has become the default amongst our woke women, who have essentially become female versions of gay men. That would explain the simultaneous pathologization and eroticization of teenage boys in the feminist realm. It would also explain the rejection of the maternal role, the hatred of reproduction and the enshrinement of sexual liberty and "choice" (i.e. sexual power) as the highest social goal.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won't take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world.

    Horrible , reprehensible Catholic Church.

    Catholic Church is adamantly anti abortion. Catholic Church requires Catholics to be against abortion. Catholic Church funds the anti abortion activists. Catholic diocese and the school sent those kids to the demonstration

    And then the bishop and school administrators turned on the kids who did as ordered and went to the demonstration. The only useful thing the American Catholic Church does nowadays is run a private school system And Covington catholic betrays it’s students and the parents who pay the tuition.

    At least the kids parents are fighting back.

  130. @Oleaginous Outrager
    She's also the one who wrote in one of her books that someone leaving a dirty glass on her kitchen counter is the same to her as "someone taking a shit on the counter".

    Ole, I remember an old ironworker telling me that his wife was a slob because he couldn’t piss in the sink because it was full of dirty dishes.

  131. @Jack D

    Hello, attention seeking is why they–unlike the HS kids–are banging the drum on the mall in the first place.
     
    Banging on a drum is the very definition of attention seeking but the media completely missed this (and completely skipped over the "Black Hebrews" who had been cursing and insulting these poor kids non-stop for an hour). In Leftist terms only white people have agency, so blacks cursing whites means nothing, an Indian approaching a white boy and banging a drum in his face means nothing, but an awkward smile ("smirk") is action (horrible RACIST action) because it was done by a white. Can you imagine what the media storm would have been like if the boys gave into the provocations and were filmed striking back verbally or physically? A smirk created a firestorm. For a blow they would have had to dynamite St. Patrick's.

    My favorite Black Hebrew I actually met at Hialeah Park, back in the day. For a eye-opener, read WIKI for Yahweh ben Yahweh. Had to kill a Whitey to get in. Had his own YbY day here in 1990.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_ben_Yahweh

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    The first I heard of the "Black Hebrews" was when about a decade ago a video of them taunting some Jewish kid in NYC made the rounds at the 1488 sites. The Jewish kid was trying to take their side (against the evil white man, of course), but they were having none of it, calling him a "mamzer," among other exotic insults. The Jewish kid eventually started crying, which the 1488ers found particularly amusing.
  132. @Oleaginous Outrager
    MLK Day has delivered to us an extraordinary gift:

    https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1087327713277460481

    Ole, Kirsten Gillibrand is already campaigning in Iowa were the comments ranged form “She’s a lovely lady” to “Who’s she?”

  133. Banging on a drum is the very definition of attention seeking but the media completely missed this (and completely skipped over the “Black Hebrews” who had been cursing and insulting these poor kids non-stop for an hour)

    I think you missed the part where the Black Hebrews yelled at and taunted the Indians for half an hour before focusing on the boys, calling them “savages,” owing to their “primitive idol worship,” as Indians have been known to do.

    Even more amazing is the New York Times, cnn, msnbc, etc sanctioning their Black Israelites viewpoint by providing zero commentary on the blacks making sport of the Indians. Why provide commentary about obvious primitive savage pagans? The truth is the truth, according to the New York Times.

  134. @Jack D
    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant. This is not how high school juniors write.

    The last sentence gives a clue as to who helped him write it:


    I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.
     
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

    As he expresses in the statement, he was in no way prepared to be thrust into the middle of a modern Leftist media lynching on his own. I am glad that the Diocese is providing him with help and they should not stand by while their students (and by extension, their entire religion) is slandered by people who are probably atheists and who do not wish them well.

    I was also shocked during the Kavanaugh hearings to see how much anti-Catholic sentiment was openly expressed on the Left. In the old days, Republicans were supposedly the ones who were anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc. but nowaday the supposedly "open minded" Left finds excuses to criticize Catholics, Jews, Christian Fundamentalists, etc. (but never Muslims) - they are (supposedly) not opposed to their religions per se, but they say they oppose them because they don't like Israel, their anti-abortion stance, etc. I have a hard time telling this apart from plain old-fashioned religious prejudice.

    But don't be fooled into thinking that this is something that Nick wrote by himself and then the adults just edited it a little. Probably he was interviewed by professionals and then the factual elements of the interview were edited into this statement. Some of the sentiments, such as thanking the Indian for his service, were probably completely added by the adults. There is nothing wrong with this but don't mistake Nick for some sort of boy genius. He is just a regular kid who was thrust into a media firestorm.

    I’m glad Nick has legal counsel. I understood the school and the diocese denounced him.

    Nathan Phillips has done this kind of thing before.

  135. @Jack D

    Hello, attention seeking is why they–unlike the HS kids–are banging the drum on the mall in the first place.
     
    Banging on a drum is the very definition of attention seeking but the media completely missed this (and completely skipped over the "Black Hebrews" who had been cursing and insulting these poor kids non-stop for an hour). In Leftist terms only white people have agency, so blacks cursing whites means nothing, an Indian approaching a white boy and banging a drum in his face means nothing, but an awkward smile ("smirk") is action (horrible RACIST action) because it was done by a white. Can you imagine what the media storm would have been like if the boys gave into the provocations and were filmed striking back verbally or physically? A smirk created a firestorm. For a blow they would have had to dynamite St. Patrick's.

    The fact that the mass media completely ignores the objectively entertaining Black Israelites except for an old Howard Stern recording and a Louis Theroux program is amazing, it stamps the Soviet top quality mark on their handiwork.
    The textbook illustration of the state of journalism for the Trump years should be these college graduates choosing to memory hole the Black Israelites (think Parliament Funkadelic on a shared bad trip — costumes, vocabulary, ideology, street theater) to defame Catholic school kids who did literally nothing at a public rally.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    except for an old Howard Stern recording and a Louis Theroux program is amazing,
     
    What are you referring to?
  136. @Paleo Liberal
    You are an elder when people in your tribe call you an elder.
    Seriously, that is what it is.

    Some people are never Indian elders no matter how old because they don’t have contact with their tribe.

    One famous ancestor of mine became a Cherokee elder when she was a widow with two kids at the age of 17.

    My mother is 90 and not a tribal elder, but her younger sister is. My aunt lives in Cherokee country in Oklahoma while my mother does not.

    Some cultures are better than others. QED.

  137. @Harry Baldwin
    Why are we supposed to have special respect for an old Indian because someone calls him an “Elder.” That honorific has no significance in our culture. it’s their thing, not ours. I think all elderly people are entitled to some extra respect and deference, but not because their group calls them an Elder. This guy sounds like an annoying old coot, so I’m not going to cut him any slack.

    Harry, I worked with dozens of Native Americans, never met an elder or a chief.

    • Replies: @CJ
    Harry, I worked with dozens of Native Americans, never met an elder or a chief.

    I've worked with lots of native Canadians, most of whom would probably tell you that elders and chiefs rarely work.
  138. @Chris Mallory
    With his age, I would guess he might be a VN ERA vet. Anyone who served from 1964 to mid 1975 is a VN ERA vet, even if they didn't go to VN. A man who went to VN between 1961 and 1975 is a VN Vet. These are official DoD destinations.

    A guy who was stationed in Germany in 1951 is considered a Korean War ERA vet, even if he never saw Korea. The WW2 ERA lasts from 7 Dec 1941 until 31 Dec 1946.

    I could see the injun saying "ERA" and the idiots in the media not reporting it correctly. Who knows?



    https://www.benefits.va.gov/pension/wartimeperiod.asp

    The way American decorations work, you get recognitions Brits would find silly so your new commander can surmise your service record book when he scans your chest; the way the American veteran thing works, you get wierd classifications to simplify the task of categorizing people. I was a pogue, but a VA hospital classed me as a “combat vet” because a place I had been stationed at was attacked and to expedite a procedure I needed. Obviously I can’t go around telling people that I am a “combat vet” beyond paper, but the designation is real and served a bureaucratic function. If this guy is telling people he is a Vietnam vet when he was a Vietnam era vet then he’s still a scumbag but he may have gotten the idea from government precision.
    ————
    There was also a thing where they were classifying the Middle East as South Asia or something, I don’t remember exactly but everybody double-took and thought it was wrong, and the briefer said, no, this is the classification, we’re just going with it.

  139. I’m willing to bet that fifty years from now, a defining image of this political era will be that smug white MAGA teen disrespecting a Native elder and veteran. It just captures so much

    This so embodies the Leftist spirit. First of all, she is so caught up in the emotion of the moment that she cannot tell a 1 day item from something that will endure for 50 years. Even if the whole story wasn’t fake, nobody died, nobody was even hurt (maybe the old Injun’s feelings when he was “smirked” at?) – this is the kind of story that would have been forgotten in a week anyway even if it was true. But to Jessica this is the most shocking event of our era, at least until tomorrow when there will be another most shocking atrocity committed by the white man.

    2nd, as she did with Jackie, it doesn’t occur to her at all to question the image and its accompanying narrative – she just assumes that because it confirms her prejudices, it must be true. No skepticism on the Left!

    Notice also the use of “veteran” – in the old days vets were detested on the Left as baby killers but all of a sudden Jessica is all patriotic and filled with sympathy for this vet.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    To this point, much that is iconic and historic is simply deceit: Rosa Parks, the "live" narration of the Hindenberg disaster, the Vietnamese street execution (which leftists never contextualize in terms of the man's family having been recently attacked), shaking hands with Jesse Owens, Reagan laughing at dying gays, and so on.
    , @ACommenter
    Even if the whole story wasn’t fake,
    the left has a ton of fake narratives that are now "Gospel" -
    In fact I would say 90% of WWII-onward history is fake leftist narrative.
  140. @anon
    "Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world."

    Dude, your're the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to "save" his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    Dude, your’re the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to “save” his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    What would you say to a twelve-year-old boy who approached you and asked you how he could survive in this world of ours?

    • Replies: @Anon
    I’d tell him what we told our sons and grandsons. I’d tell him that as White man he will be discriminated against in everything he does. I’d tell him the best way to get into college or a career is to just check the black box on all applications.

    I’d tell him that 3 black men together is almost always s mugging team and to watch out for mugging teams. I’d teach him to fight as we did. Not sissy boy karate but boxing and to break the attacker’s nose first. I’d tell the kid to attack and hit hard as any White man is worth 3 blacks in a fight

    That’s what we told our boys when they were 10. We didn’t worry about their sex lives. One did date a law student when he was 18. We thought it was cool.
  141. @dr kill
    Poor fuckers couldn't afford to paint their barn. After the Trump tax cuts, I bet they can. Maybe they will paint it orange.

    It’s a crappy Yankee barn.

    Not a good Pennsylvania bank barn.

    Damn Yankees.

  142. @EliteCommInc.
    Vietnam ended in 1973 for the US.

    Vietnam ended in 1973 for the US.

    Ostensibly, but we still had several thousand troops there until like June of ’75, or thereabouts. Not 100 percent certain about that, but I think it’s correct.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Nixon announced withdrawal January 73. We didn’t leave till the N. Vietnam army conquered Saigon in 1975. Be interesting to know if he was a Vietnam veteran or Vietnam era veteran and what he did when he was in the military if indeed he ever was in the military.
  143. @dr kill
    Doubtful. I'm a 1954 model, and I had a lottery number of 29, but there was no draft. See? First the lottery, then the draft. That's how it worked. Thank you President Nixon.

    Not impossible that he volunteered. There’s a tradition of American Indians serving in the U.S. armed forces and Canadian Indians serving in the Canadian forces.

  144. @Buffalo Joe
    Harry, I worked with dozens of Native Americans, never met an elder or a chief.

    Harry, I worked with dozens of Native Americans, never met an elder or a chief.

    I’ve worked with lots of native Canadians, most of whom would probably tell you that elders and chiefs rarely work.

  145. @Daniel H
    Jessica Valenti's wedding photo. Look at that arched back, the recoil, the repulsion, the disgust, the total fucking-settling-for-less, even though her beau is a Harvard boi. Sad. Sad.

    It will be better Jessica, if you just be one of us.

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/10/18/fashion/vows.sub.600.jpg

    The young long haired Jessica strikes me as a fairly attractive woman–nose excepted.

    But the now Jessica–at 40 (or mid/late 30s when pics taken)–strikes me as a rather unattractive looking woman. Note i’m age adjusting here. Seems like she went from a fairly attractive–definitely above average looking–girl to an unattractive 40 year old. (And this is without weight issues–i can’t tell.) Her face in several of these pics just looks annoying, tedious, unpleasant. A bit of witch.

    I’m guessing carrying around these grievances instead of enjoying your kids is just bad for the way you look.

  146. @Jack D

    I'm willing to bet that fifty years from now, a defining image of this political era will be that smug white MAGA teen disrespecting a Native elder and veteran. It just captures so much
     
    This so embodies the Leftist spirit. First of all, she is so caught up in the emotion of the moment that she cannot tell a 1 day item from something that will endure for 50 years. Even if the whole story wasn't fake, nobody died, nobody was even hurt (maybe the old Injun's feelings when he was "smirked" at?) - this is the kind of story that would have been forgotten in a week anyway even if it was true. But to Jessica this is the most shocking event of our era, at least until tomorrow when there will be another most shocking atrocity committed by the white man.

    2nd, as she did with Jackie, it doesn't occur to her at all to question the image and its accompanying narrative - she just assumes that because it confirms her prejudices, it must be true. No skepticism on the Left!

    Notice also the use of "veteran" - in the old days vets were detested on the Left as baby killers but all of a sudden Jessica is all patriotic and filled with sympathy for this vet.

    To this point, much that is iconic and historic is simply deceit: Rosa Parks, the “live” narration of the Hindenberg disaster, the Vietnamese street execution (which leftists never contextualize in terms of the man’s family having been recently attacked), shaking hands with Jesse Owens, Reagan laughing at dying gays, and so on.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    The Vietnamese doing the shooting was a security state subordinate of Ky's who was involved in his suppression of Buddhists. The Vietnamese being shot was the leader of a death squad that had just been butchering civilians-including children-*that same day*.

    I cannot think of a more fitting image that sums up just how absolutely morally bankrupt both Vietnamese states were in that war, and how utterly insane US politics had to be in the 1960s that our political spectrum was polarized around which side to eulogize.
  147. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    The statement probably conveys his thoughts but it reeks of having been professionally written by a lawyer/PR consultant. This is not how high school juniors write.

    The last sentence gives a clue as to who helped him write it:


    I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.
     
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

    As he expresses in the statement, he was in no way prepared to be thrust into the middle of a modern Leftist media lynching on his own. I am glad that the Diocese is providing him with help and they should not stand by while their students (and by extension, their entire religion) is slandered by people who are probably atheists and who do not wish them well.

    I was also shocked during the Kavanaugh hearings to see how much anti-Catholic sentiment was openly expressed on the Left. In the old days, Republicans were supposedly the ones who were anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc. but nowaday the supposedly "open minded" Left finds excuses to criticize Catholics, Jews, Christian Fundamentalists, etc. (but never Muslims) - they are (supposedly) not opposed to their religions per se, but they say they oppose them because they don't like Israel, their anti-abortion stance, etc. I have a hard time telling this apart from plain old-fashioned religious prejudice.

    But don't be fooled into thinking that this is something that Nick wrote by himself and then the adults just edited it a little. Probably he was interviewed by professionals and then the factual elements of the interview were edited into this statement. Some of the sentiments, such as thanking the Indian for his service, were probably completely added by the adults. There is nothing wrong with this but don't mistake Nick for some sort of boy genius. He is just a regular kid who was thrust into a media firestorm.

    Liberals have always been anti catholic for whatever reason is current. I remember about 1970, I used to take the kids to the zoo pretty regularly. I was standing in line one day. A group of looked like 6 grade girls in uniforms were going in. and a woman next to me said very loudly “ look at them, Catholics, they’ll be popping out 6 kids in the next 10 years”

    I quietly told her the girls were from Katharine Burke’s school, not catholic . totally secular. The woman just snarled so what if they’re not catholic and went on a loud diatribe about over population and the pope.

    A few years later she was all over the newspaper as a lesbian advocate for gay adoption. When AIDS hit she was against closing the bathhouses against the health department keeping track of AIDS and against medical providers wearing gloves when caring for AIDS patients.

    Wish I’d known at the time that the 1920 30s KKK wanted to close down all the catholic schools and succeeded for a short time in Kentucky and oh so progressive Oregon. I could have told her what she had in common with the KKK. Interesting that I had 2 toddlers with me and she didn’t care about them overpopulating the earth.

    But the sight of those school uniforms triggered her outburst.

  148. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Vietnam ended in 1973 for the US.
     
    Ostensibly, but we still had several thousand troops there until like June of '75, or thereabouts. Not 100 percent certain about that, but I think it's correct.

    Nixon announced withdrawal January 73. We didn’t leave till the N. Vietnam army conquered Saigon in 1975. Be interesting to know if he was a Vietnam veteran or Vietnam era veteran and what he did when he was in the military if indeed he ever was in the military.

  149. @Jack D

    I'm willing to bet that fifty years from now, a defining image of this political era will be that smug white MAGA teen disrespecting a Native elder and veteran. It just captures so much
     
    This so embodies the Leftist spirit. First of all, she is so caught up in the emotion of the moment that she cannot tell a 1 day item from something that will endure for 50 years. Even if the whole story wasn't fake, nobody died, nobody was even hurt (maybe the old Injun's feelings when he was "smirked" at?) - this is the kind of story that would have been forgotten in a week anyway even if it was true. But to Jessica this is the most shocking event of our era, at least until tomorrow when there will be another most shocking atrocity committed by the white man.

    2nd, as she did with Jackie, it doesn't occur to her at all to question the image and its accompanying narrative - she just assumes that because it confirms her prejudices, it must be true. No skepticism on the Left!

    Notice also the use of "veteran" - in the old days vets were detested on the Left as baby killers but all of a sudden Jessica is all patriotic and filled with sympathy for this vet.

    Even if the whole story wasn’t fake,
    the left has a ton of fake narratives that are now “Gospel” –
    In fact I would say 90% of WWII-onward history is fake leftist narrative.

  150. @Anon
    She has that clannish Italian smirk.

    It just goes to show that most people's minds are mush. They love or hate whatever based on what the dominant narrative forces on them.

    An Italian got into Stuyvesant? Hard to believe unless red diaper baby Robert De Niro wrote her recommendation.

  151. @Hypnotoad666
    So subtle announcing on MLK day: "Hey everybody, I'm running for President, and did I mention I'm Black."

    Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.

    She doesn’t look a bit black. Her Dad looked very high yaller. In childhood pictures she looks lighter than either parent. Hmmmm

  152. @Jack D
    The thing I remember most about Jessica Valenti is that she refused to throw in the towel on Jackie. After the Washington Post followed up on Steve's hunches and published its expose' demolishing all of her claims, all the other Leftists had the wisdom to just go radio silent and move on to the next thing as they usually do when a hate hoax is exposed but Jessica kept insisting that Jackie was still telling the truth. Now this kind of loyalty is admirable in a way, given that most Leftists will not hesitate for a second to throw their comrades under the bus if it serves the needs of the Revolution, but at some point it rises to the level of stupidity. The main impression I got was that feelz are much more important than facts to Jessica.

    The thing I remember most about Jessica Valenti is that she refused to throw in the towel on Jackie.

    Valenti was one of a gaggle of contemporary feminists who were early to blogging (i.e., Marcotte, Filipovic) who refused to acknowledge that the Crystal Gail Mangum/Duke Lacrosse accusations were definitively proven false. This is where I became acquainted with the fact that without saying so they believe that it is peachy keen for rape accusations to be treated as essentially unfalsifiable.

  153. @Anonymous
    Is Nicholas Sandmann Jewish?

    Lots of Jewish kids in cities go to catholic schools. Wouldn’t it be a kick if he was Jewish? ADL AJC would have a meltdown.

  154. @Anon
    I was feeling a little cognitive dissonance reading the statement of Nick Sandmann, and then it hit me: This was a coherent, pellucid, grammatical, correctly spelled, properly punctuated piece of writing. By a high school student. There were no $20 thesaurus words used incorrectly. And there was no social science jargon, nor was "they" used as a singular personal pronoun.

    A high school student can still write like we did in the old days, while the WE DEMAND manifesto crowd at universities write like retarded grade schoolers?

    It occurred to me that he might have run it by someone else to copyedit it. But you know, the WE DEMAND crowd could do that too, but they don't, and that in itself is a sign of stupidity. Smart people make their own environment, and that environment may include asking for help.

    That’s what happens when you send your kids to private school. They can write a decent English paragraph

    Public schools stopped teaching grammar about 60 years ago because correct grammar is racist.

  155. @RichardTaylor
    This is the world we are leaving our White children! Somehow, we have to get the moral courage to demand safe spaces and safe communities for White children to grow up in and live full lives.

    Nothing short of that will work. I'm afraid the lack of courage by previous generations makes our job that much harder. But it must be done.

    Safe spaces and safe communities for White children ended in 1956 when Eisenhower and the satanic Supreme Court desegregated the public schools.

  156. @BB753
    "The smirk that launched a thousand feminist ships"

    I’m out of LOLs, so LOL.

    • LOL: BB753
  157. @Moshe
    man, why can't we have a thread where people all introduce themselves and share interesting s*** like this.

    I agree.
    Maybe Steve could do that.

  158. Why are they called boys when they are old enough to be tried as adult men. Why are they referred to as ‘white boys’?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Legally they are termed minors. Would it satisfy you if they are called male minors?
  159. @Mike P.
    No. He said in his statement that he is Catholic.

    He may be a practicing Catholic, but of Jewish descent.

  160. @Moshe
    I haven't watched more than 4 minutes of this business but I asmire all of em who were in the arena.

    All the critics on the sideline are weirdos with sexual issues who obsess over a fun little word and dance tussle they would have given a wide berth if they were on the area - which they wouldn't have been anyway, what with "Living" being so out of fashion these days.

    I've had more interactions with Black Israelite groups than anyone here (I secretly hope someone corrects me with a cool life experience story) and more interaction with Native Americans than 99% of you, and more recent interactions with high schoolers than most of the non-parent non-teacher over 35s here (kids are interesting in ways that adults aren't and vice versa). And I Never Pass by a protest without joining in the fun unless circumstances absolutely demand otherwise.

    Yes, the culture is anti white males to an insane degree. Kafkaesque in every aspect. Okay! But instead of getting high blood pressure from it remember that you're also going to get sick and decrepit and die and - who knows? - maybe suffer in anguish for all eternity.

    Also if you have kids, instead of worrying about "the climate" for the next generation of white americans, worry about all of the horrifying or depressing things that are far more likely to happen to them than that they get watsoned for facing off against an injun and it being viral videoed.

    Anyway, whatever it is that everyone is whining about here from the Right, the Left, the Up and the Sideways I differ. I'm with the folks in the arena. (Espescially those of the African Israelites who shout [some actually believe their bs and preach, they kinna suck], the Injin who ooohwahhhehheeeeyhooooeed his way into the kids and most especially that super happy smirkey boy standing his ground before Drumming Badger.

    And again, you're gonna die and maybe burn in hell forever so whenever you get too worked up about the fate of some moonface boy from Kentucky remember that death and an unknown eternity stand before you just a short while away.

    (countdown to comment approval ;-) )

    Also if you have kids, instead of worrying about “the climate” for the next generation of white americans, worry about all of the horrifying or depressing things that are far more likely to happen to them than that they get watsoned for facing off against an injun and it being viral videoed.

    This is nonsense. The stasis are new, contrary to our traditions, and highly vulnerable if we can get people to see how ridiculous they are like in the 90s, but a very real threat if we do not. Other threats are not necessarily avoidable and do not have the inappropriateness or vulnerability of the stasis. Furthermore, almost every bad thing ties back into leftist cultural destruction: crime (immigration), deliberate misgrading (long march through the institutions), career problems (stasism).

  161. @Counterinsurgency
    Take a look at:

    Steven Hicks.
    _Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault_.
    2006.

    See also his lecture on Youtube.com.

    His work is a useful field guide.

    The most difficult thing when working with Postmodernists is remembering that, for them, nothing is real, words are weapons, logic an oppression, and social status is all because only groups exist. They can't live in the a realist/individualist society needed for industrialization, and seeing people who can fills them with hatred, makes them furiously angry. Hatred is, after all, an emotion invoked by anything that seriously threatens your life.

    The people who attacked the kid did not do so because they jumped to conclusions. They started with hatred for the kids, and grabbed any half way plausible (to their group) explanations for their hatred. It's the old Copernican Revolution idea that Kant used. With postmodernists, put hatred rather than faith in in the center of the system. Makes them a lot easier to deal with.

    Counterinsurgency

    The most difficult thing when working with Postmodernists is remembering that, for them, nothing is real, words are weapons, … and social status is all because only groups exist.

    Citation please?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    Citation please
     
    Hicks, _Explaining Postmodernism_, as cited in my original post. Hicks gives a fairly good plausibility argument, which is about as good as you will get in philosophy and politics.

    You might also try direct observation. Start with Tiny Duck, antifa, and then look for similarities in other leftists. OC's comment that the progressives would "run train" on the conservatives comes to mind.[1, 2]. Work down to Hillary Clinton. In my experience, there is nothing better than fresh data (data gathered more recently than the time it takes the underlying process to change appreciably).

    Note that a Postmodernist would simply dismiss the above, on the basis of individual commitment (outrage or the like) which would be legitimated because the individual doesn't really exist, but is a creation of social groups. Therefore, a committed individual really represents a committed group, and if you take on one, you take on the entire group. Not a lot different from Hells Angels, or from a clan system, when you think about it. The _argumentum ad baculum_ dates back to Og, the greatest politician Homo Sapiens has yet produced, and (surprisingly) a contemporary of Ugh, greatest tactician to date.

    The other thing that any observer has to do is to treat the Postmodernists crunchies (activists) as if they were cute children or child like because not very smart. Women especially do that, acting as if they were defending their children from their husband, but many men do that as well (Personal observation). Remember that lions also have a low IQ, but are perfectly functional predators quite capable of taking an unarmed adult Homo Sapiens.

    You can say much the same about some primates [3] if they decide to treat you as an equal. The low IQ of his attackers didn't save Oberle, nor did their low IQ make Oberle's attackers cute kids. Adults of the species are _adults_, not kids and not handicapped. Try to give Postmodernists as least as much respect as you do adult lions and more closely related adult primates.

    Oberle didn't, and now has a permanent testosterone deficiency[4].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] David Rutz.
    Ocasio-Cortez: We’re Going to ‘Run Train on the Progressive Agenda’
    _The Washington Free Beacon_, 2018/01/16
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-were-going-to-run-train-on-the-progressive-agenda/
    2] For an explanaition of "run train", See:
    Hunter S. Thompson.
    _Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs_.
    1966.
    Search for "pulling the Angels train".
    3] Bazi Kanani, Adam Seecrhrisst, and Alyssa Newcomb.
    "Andrew Oberle: Chimp Attack Victim Was Standing in Restricted Area".
    _abc News_, 2012/07/01.
    https://abcnews.go.com/International/andrew-oberle-chimp-attack-victim-standing-restricted-area/story?id=16689076
  162. @Moshe
    man, why can't we have a thread where people all introduce themselves and share interesting s*** like this.

    man, why can’t we have a thread where people all introduce themselves and share interesting s*** like this.

    Translation: why can’t you goy animals stop worrying so much about assaults on your interests and post trivialities instead?

    • Replies: @Moshe
    Silver, you have very serious mental problems.
  163. @Anon7
    The supposed Vietnam-era Indian vet is a life-long activist who has learned his lessons well from experts like MK Gandhi. Gandhi insisted that it isn't enough to be moral or right in your home or talking with your friends; you must challenge the ruling order. Poke the lion in the eye. The march to the sea to disobey British law to make salt is a classic example.

    This Indian guy was walking along, and was drawn in by the MAGA hats and the knowledge that everyone has a cell phone video camera. If you want to call beating a drum in someone's face a "native American peace song" or something like that, sure, go ahead. But the purpose is to force a bad reaction.

    Gandhi insisted that it isn’t enough to be moral or right in your home or talking with your friends

    Did Gandhi actually state that these things ARE necessary?

  164. @Oleaginous Outrager
    Obsessing over white dudes is Valenti's raison d'être.

    She’s a cisgender heterosexual married white woman, and at age 40, well past her prime nubile years of 17-25, who can’t stop thinking about a white high school boy.

  165. @Moshe
    I haven't watched more than 4 minutes of this business but I asmire all of em who were in the arena.

    All the critics on the sideline are weirdos with sexual issues who obsess over a fun little word and dance tussle they would have given a wide berth if they were on the area - which they wouldn't have been anyway, what with "Living" being so out of fashion these days.

    I've had more interactions with Black Israelite groups than anyone here (I secretly hope someone corrects me with a cool life experience story) and more interaction with Native Americans than 99% of you, and more recent interactions with high schoolers than most of the non-parent non-teacher over 35s here (kids are interesting in ways that adults aren't and vice versa). And I Never Pass by a protest without joining in the fun unless circumstances absolutely demand otherwise.

    Yes, the culture is anti white males to an insane degree. Kafkaesque in every aspect. Okay! But instead of getting high blood pressure from it remember that you're also going to get sick and decrepit and die and - who knows? - maybe suffer in anguish for all eternity.

    Also if you have kids, instead of worrying about "the climate" for the next generation of white americans, worry about all of the horrifying or depressing things that are far more likely to happen to them than that they get watsoned for facing off against an injun and it being viral videoed.

    Anyway, whatever it is that everyone is whining about here from the Right, the Left, the Up and the Sideways I differ. I'm with the folks in the arena. (Espescially those of the African Israelites who shout [some actually believe their bs and preach, they kinna suck], the Injin who ooohwahhhehheeeeyhooooeed his way into the kids and most especially that super happy smirkey boy standing his ground before Drumming Badger.

    And again, you're gonna die and maybe burn in hell forever so whenever you get too worked up about the fate of some moonface boy from Kentucky remember that death and an unknown eternity stand before you just a short while away.

    (countdown to comment approval ;-) )

    What point are you trying to make?

  166. @Anonymous
    The heavy drinking prematurely ages you.

    The heavy drinking prematurely ages you.

    Isn’t alcohol a preservative?

  167. @dr kill
    My favorite Black Hebrew I actually met at Hialeah Park, back in the day. For a eye-opener, read WIKI for Yahweh ben Yahweh. Had to kill a Whitey to get in. Had his own YbY day here in 1990.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_ben_Yahweh

    The first I heard of the “Black Hebrews” was when about a decade ago a video of them taunting some Jewish kid in NYC made the rounds at the 1488 sites. The Jewish kid was trying to take their side (against the evil white man, of course), but they were having none of it, calling him a “mamzer,” among other exotic insults. The Jewish kid eventually started crying, which the 1488ers found particularly amusing.

  168. @Roderick Spode
    Our lad looks a bit Hebraic.

    Our lad looks a bit Hebraic.

    The statement he put out indicates good verbal ability.

  169. @Jack D
    The thing I remember most about Jessica Valenti is that she refused to throw in the towel on Jackie. After the Washington Post followed up on Steve's hunches and published its expose' demolishing all of her claims, all the other Leftists had the wisdom to just go radio silent and move on to the next thing as they usually do when a hate hoax is exposed but Jessica kept insisting that Jackie was still telling the truth. Now this kind of loyalty is admirable in a way, given that most Leftists will not hesitate for a second to throw their comrades under the bus if it serves the needs of the Revolution, but at some point it rises to the level of stupidity. The main impression I got was that feelz are much more important than facts to Jessica.

    New York Times editor Sarah Jeong never threw in the towel on Jackie either.

  170. @J.Ross
    The fact that the mass media completely ignores the objectively entertaining Black Israelites except for an old Howard Stern recording and a Louis Theroux program is amazing, it stamps the Soviet top quality mark on their handiwork.
    The textbook illustration of the state of journalism for the Trump years should be these college graduates choosing to memory hole the Black Israelites (think Parliament Funkadelic on a shared bad trip -- costumes, vocabulary, ideology, street theater) to defame Catholic school kids who did literally nothing at a public rally.

    except for an old Howard Stern recording and a Louis Theroux program is amazing,

    What are you referring to?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    If only there existed thinking machines which could allow you to search for the filmbooks in question without necessarily knowing what they were called or where they were stored.
  171. @EliteCommInc.
    Vietnam ended in 1973 for the US.

    Yes and no…

    When it came to the popular understanding of the Vietnam War, it actually ended a little earlier: all ground combat operations ceased in late 1971, and the last combat unit left in August 1972. And even before that, things had pretty significantly declined from the height of ’67-’69. The troops that weren’t being withdrawn altogether were being transferred to the safer coastal regions in the second half of 1970.

    On the other hand, air strikes-including some of the most intense in our history in Operation FREEDOM DEAL, more intense than those on Japan in WWII-continued into the summer of 1973 in Cambodia and Laos from Korat AFB over in Thailand. And we had the usual advisors and the like until the fall of Saigon.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    And there was that bizarre thing that happened in 1975, which may have been an attempt to justify an intervention, or just pure craziness by the commies.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaguez_incident
  172. @J.Ross
    To this point, much that is iconic and historic is simply deceit: Rosa Parks, the "live" narration of the Hindenberg disaster, the Vietnamese street execution (which leftists never contextualize in terms of the man's family having been recently attacked), shaking hands with Jesse Owens, Reagan laughing at dying gays, and so on.

    The Vietnamese doing the shooting was a security state subordinate of Ky’s who was involved in his suppression of Buddhists. The Vietnamese being shot was the leader of a death squad that had just been butchering civilians-including children-*that same day*.

    I cannot think of a more fitting image that sums up just how absolutely morally bankrupt both Vietnamese states were in that war, and how utterly insane US politics had to be in the 1960s that our political spectrum was polarized around which side to eulogize.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    That guy moved to Virginia and opened a pizza parlor. Leftists tracked him down, hounded him, and forced him to close it. The leftist version (which I had told to me multiple times in school) was that this was Vietnamese FBI interrogating a suspected communist by torture, and finally murdering him, which is nonsensically false.
    Since this got extended, the monks weren't immolating themselves to protest the US but to protest lack of freedom of religion. Now, you can argue that this is almost the same thing, but how much freedom of religion were they going to have under communism?
  173. @nebulafox
    The Vietnamese doing the shooting was a security state subordinate of Ky's who was involved in his suppression of Buddhists. The Vietnamese being shot was the leader of a death squad that had just been butchering civilians-including children-*that same day*.

    I cannot think of a more fitting image that sums up just how absolutely morally bankrupt both Vietnamese states were in that war, and how utterly insane US politics had to be in the 1960s that our political spectrum was polarized around which side to eulogize.

    That guy moved to Virginia and opened a pizza parlor. Leftists tracked him down, hounded him, and forced him to close it. The leftist version (which I had told to me multiple times in school) was that this was Vietnamese FBI interrogating a suspected communist by torture, and finally murdering him, which is nonsensically false.
    Since this got extended, the monks weren’t immolating themselves to protest the US but to protest lack of freedom of religion. Now, you can argue that this is almost the same thing, but how much freedom of religion were they going to have under communism?

  174. @Tyrion 2
    Translation: the application was nonsense.

    Back to school for you. No translation needed: Freud was a European-hating, Jewish, quack.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    How was Freud "European-hating"? Does everyone you disagree with just have to be "European-hating"?
  175. @nebulafox
    Yes and no...

    When it came to the popular understanding of the Vietnam War, it actually ended a little earlier: all ground combat operations ceased in late 1971, and the last combat unit left in August 1972. And even before that, things had pretty significantly declined from the height of '67-'69. The troops that weren't being withdrawn altogether were being transferred to the safer coastal regions in the second half of 1970.

    On the other hand, air strikes-including some of the most intense in our history in Operation FREEDOM DEAL, more intense than those on Japan in WWII-continued into the summer of 1973 in Cambodia and Laos from Korat AFB over in Thailand. And we had the usual advisors and the like until the fall of Saigon.

    And there was that bizarre thing that happened in 1975, which may have been an attempt to justify an intervention, or just pure craziness by the commies.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaguez_incident

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Yes, I know what happened to Loan after the war, and I know how Adams severely regretting ruining his life. Look, I hold no brief for Van Lem, the guy being shot. As I mentioned, he personally slit the throats of women and children earlier that day. That an outright terrorist and war criminal like that was somehow transformed into anything approximating an innocent victim by the lefties was nothing short of disgusting.

    But Loan was not part of the South Vietnamese version of the FBI, if you could call it that. He was one of Ky's dudes in earlier years: the same guys who were busy mutilating their own country, politically and socially, and engaging in organized crime while leaving us to do the fighting. Let's not have romantic illusions about anybody in that particular war.

    (I'll give Loan this much, though: he always tried to uphold the RVN's sovereignty when it came to US troops, unlike most other South Vietnamese officials, even at the risk of pissing us off. That did take guts.)

    As for the religious question, an interesting result of the Hue Massacre was that a lot of South Vietnamese who were previously apolitical began to support the Saigon regime. Blasphemously doing things like that during a religious holiday deeply offended Buddhist opinion in the South-Vietnamese culture and society remains to this day a pretty socially conservative beast, Communism aside. But that wouldn't come until '68. The self-immolation took place in the context of the civil chaos that engulfed Vietnam between late 1963 and late 1967.

    >And there was that bizarre thing that happened in 1975, which may have been an attempt to justify an intervention, or just pure craziness by the commies.

    Well, the Khmer Rouge were to Marxism what ISIS was to Islamists for a reason. They managed to scare and annoy even people in their own camp: which is why, in the long haul, they were doomed.

  176. @Rosie

    So nobody can ask “why” someone does something?
     
    Sure you can ask, but don't pretend it's anything more than idle speculation.

    Understanding motivations is “really Jewy”?
     
    When the point is to pathologize and dismiss, yes.

    The problem with women who attacked this kid is not that they have repressed sexual issues, the problem is that they jumped to conclusions, as a result of their own prejudices, without examining the evidence.

    The problem with women who attacked this kid is not that they have repressed sexual issues, the problem is that they jumped to conclusions, as a result of their own prejudices, without examining the evidence.

    This woman pretty clearly has repressed sexual issues:

    Notice me! DEVASTATE me, u goyische brute u!

    • LOL: Ozymandias
  177. @Anonymous

    except for an old Howard Stern recording and a Louis Theroux program is amazing,
     
    What are you referring to?

    If only there existed thinking machines which could allow you to search for the filmbooks in question without necessarily knowing what they were called or where they were stored.

  178. @J.Ross
    And there was that bizarre thing that happened in 1975, which may have been an attempt to justify an intervention, or just pure craziness by the commies.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaguez_incident

    Yes, I know what happened to Loan after the war, and I know how Adams severely regretting ruining his life. Look, I hold no brief for Van Lem, the guy being shot. As I mentioned, he personally slit the throats of women and children earlier that day. That an outright terrorist and war criminal like that was somehow transformed into anything approximating an innocent victim by the lefties was nothing short of disgusting.

    But Loan was not part of the South Vietnamese version of the FBI, if you could call it that. He was one of Ky’s dudes in earlier years: the same guys who were busy mutilating their own country, politically and socially, and engaging in organized crime while leaving us to do the fighting. Let’s not have romantic illusions about anybody in that particular war.

    (I’ll give Loan this much, though: he always tried to uphold the RVN’s sovereignty when it came to US troops, unlike most other South Vietnamese officials, even at the risk of pissing us off. That did take guts.)

    As for the religious question, an interesting result of the Hue Massacre was that a lot of South Vietnamese who were previously apolitical began to support the Saigon regime. Blasphemously doing things like that during a religious holiday deeply offended Buddhist opinion in the South-Vietnamese culture and society remains to this day a pretty socially conservative beast, Communism aside. But that wouldn’t come until ’68. The self-immolation took place in the context of the civil chaos that engulfed Vietnam between late 1963 and late 1967.

    >And there was that bizarre thing that happened in 1975, which may have been an attempt to justify an intervention, or just pure craziness by the commies.

    Well, the Khmer Rouge were to Marxism what ISIS was to Islamists for a reason. They managed to scare and annoy even people in their own camp: which is why, in the long haul, they were doomed.

  179. @Colin Wright
    '...Actually, Kamala Harris would probably clock in at about 25% Black on a 23 and Me test, so she probably will need to keep reminding people.'

    25% at most. One half is Indian -- the half that raised her -- while the other half is Jamaican, but I'd guess one of those high yaller ones. I'd hold out for 12.5%.

    It's tedious. Full blacks are very, very rare in national politics. They're just too damned dumb. So the beneficiaries of all the pro-black sentiment tend to be people like Harris, Holder, Obama, Rice...

    As a rule, they've never been victims of anything. On the contrary, they've lived lives of privilege and entitlement from the day they first demonstrated they were bright enough to do a passable imitation of ordinary white behavior -- or even, in Obama's case at least, from the day of their birth.

    The sheer absurdity of it grates on me. Take Obama. Note only is he one half white, and not only was he brought up in a cocoon of wealth and privilege -- elite private schools, etc -- but even the black half is from Kenya, on the opposite side of the continent from where our blacks hail from.

    On the whole, it's as if Irish Americans fell over themselves to vote for a half-Pole, half Japanese who'd been raised in a Tibetan monastery on the grounds that he was a bit of the old sod. It's ridiculous.

    25% at most. One half is Indian — the half that raised her — while the other half is Jamaican, but I’d guess one of those high yaller ones. I’d hold out for 12.5%.

    The other thing to remember is that the average African American is already about 25% European ancestry. So a half-black American is maybe 37.5% or less African. I get the one drop rule and all, but at some point real Blacks have to say: “Nah, your not quite one of us.”

    Obama also had the good political sense to marry back into “the community.” Kamala on the the other hand, married a Jewish corporate lawyer.

    If someone really wanted to mess with Kamala’s campaign they’d start referring to her as potentially the first “East Indian” President. Or nickname her the “Tamil Tigress.” Without her Black cred she’d be a third-tier candidate at best.

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    I get the one drop rule and all, but at some point real Blacks have to say: “Nah, your not quite one of us.”
     
    At some point, yes, but not yet.

    American blacks are most anxious to prevent the rise of a Latin American-like mulatto movement in their ranks. So while they may bitch and moan about "beige brothers" enjoying too many perks, as Tom Wolfe had them doing in A Man In Full, they are going to remain very, very reluctant to cast out anyone with obvious black ancestry from their ranks, because of the risk it will open a racial Pandora's box.

    However, since standard black practise is to publicly praise blackness but to privately prize mixedness, the longer term consequences of race-mixing and immigration will create push/pull factors which will assuredly lead to the rise of an American mulatto movement.

    As anti-black mulattoes from Latin America interact with and reluctantly (partially) assimilate into the larger black identity, they will help create divisions in its ranks, and pull many lighter blacks - whose numbers have been swelled by ongoing race-mixing - towards an anti-black mulatto identity.

    On the other hand, the cultural weirdness and extreme blackness of pure blacks from Africa will push lighter blacks away from black identity towards mulatto identity.

    So blacks are not yet ready to exclude a Kamala Harris, not as long as she's mouthing pro-black platitudes anyway. But in time, it's almost a foregone conclusion that the unity of black identity in America will shatter along color lines.
  180. There was a time when oppression in America meant things like getting lynched for saying the wrong thing to a white person. These days a lot of the most bitter complaints boil down to “he looked at me funny.” I guess that’s progress!

  181. @Jack D
    So someone born in 1955 is a "native elder"? He's not even old enough to draw Social Security. At what age do you qualify for "native elder" status?

    Give the Indians a break, Jack. If those boys were Mormons they could be Elders in a couple of years!

  182. @Tyrion 2
    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them. It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not "idle".

    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them.

    That’s good strategy for dealing with persuadable people acting in good faith.

    But I’d argue that the true professional cult-Marx leftists are incapable of ever having a new idea. They just develop new rhetorical tactics to push their pre-programmed One Big Idea — i.e., that straight white gentile American males are “privileged” bad people, and everybody else are “oppressed” good people.

    So maybe the way to look at the issue is to figure out why they think their (to us) insane rhetoric is going to work on anybody.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    They just develop new rhetorical tactics to push their pre-programmed One Big Idea — i.e., that straight white gentile American males are “privileged” bad people, and everybody else are “oppressed” good people.
     
    Isn't their big idea that White people should be wiped off the map?
  183. @Hypnotoad666

    First, you judge their ideas. Then if you find them wrong, you try to work out why they have them.
     
    That's good strategy for dealing with persuadable people acting in good faith.

    But I'd argue that the true professional cult-Marx leftists are incapable of ever having a new idea. They just develop new rhetorical tactics to push their pre-programmed One Big Idea -- i.e., that straight white gentile American males are "privileged" bad people, and everybody else are "oppressed" good people.

    So maybe the way to look at the issue is to figure out why they think their (to us) insane rhetoric is going to work on anybody.

    They just develop new rhetorical tactics to push their pre-programmed One Big Idea — i.e., that straight white gentile American males are “privileged” bad people, and everybody else are “oppressed” good people.

    Isn’t their big idea that White people should be wiped off the map?

  184. @harmonshoal
    So our white children will have to grow up and live like prisoners as whites in South Africa do.

    Or worse:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9430173/South-African-12-year-old-drowned-in-boiling-water-after-seeing-parents-killed.html

    “Amaro Jose Viana, a South African of Portuguese descent” likely spoke some of the “divine language” popularlized in “The Fifth Element,” some of which was translated as “Never without my permission” and had earlier been uttered by Vasco da Gama: “Ecto Gammat!”
    Bruce Willis successfully apologizes:

    and later when the Supreme Being (the underage “Leeloo”/Milla Jovovich) needs a pick-me-up, does some “Korben Dallas” cheerleading.
    And no, nutjobs, Gary Oldman/”Zorg” ≠ ZOG

    Too soon? Well, without some reminders, even if off-the-wall, such harbingers of white South African doom are too soon forgotten.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    I find the concept of a "Black Hebrew" doubly powerfully appalling (insert Robotnik meme)

    Myteriously, a cheap chinese knockoff of a Furby or a self-cleaning doormat comes to mind.

    Anyway, more on the most important politicial event this week by Russian Newswatch:


    ‘MAGA kids go into the woodchipper’: Disney producer tweets violent threat against Covington boys

    Missing in action: Supporters blast Trump for silence on Covington Catholic kids


    Also, Tweets speaking Truth To Power:


    Anti-Trump comedian Kathy Griffin, who famously shared an image of herself hoisting Trump’s bloody severed head, even advocated doxxing the student – and all of his classmates.

    Ps. The reply from the school was pathetic and impotent. Name these kids. I want NAMES. Shame them. If you think these fuckers wouldn’t dox you in a heartbeat, think again. https://t.co/IS80wiaQ7v

    — Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) January 20, 2019
     

    Hello? No-win, no-fee lawyers? There may be some money on the line....
  185. Even by recent standards, it has not been a good week for the MSM.

  186. @Hypnotoad666

    25% at most. One half is Indian — the half that raised her — while the other half is Jamaican, but I’d guess one of those high yaller ones. I’d hold out for 12.5%.
     
    The other thing to remember is that the average African American is already about 25% European ancestry. So a half-black American is maybe 37.5% or less African. I get the one drop rule and all, but at some point real Blacks have to say: "Nah, your not quite one of us."

    Obama also had the good political sense to marry back into "the community." Kamala on the the other hand, married a Jewish corporate lawyer.

    If someone really wanted to mess with Kamala's campaign they'd start referring to her as potentially the first "East Indian" President. Or nickname her the "Tamil Tigress." Without her Black cred she'd be a third-tier candidate at best.

    I get the one drop rule and all, but at some point real Blacks have to say: “Nah, your not quite one of us.”

    At some point, yes, but not yet.

    American blacks are most anxious to prevent the rise of a Latin American-like mulatto movement in their ranks. So while they may bitch and moan about “beige brothers” enjoying too many perks, as Tom Wolfe had them doing in A Man In Full, they are going to remain very, very reluctant to cast out anyone with obvious black ancestry from their ranks, because of the risk it will open a racial Pandora’s box.

    However, since standard black practise is to publicly praise blackness but to privately prize mixedness, the longer term consequences of race-mixing and immigration will create push/pull factors which will assuredly lead to the rise of an American mulatto movement.

    As anti-black mulattoes from Latin America interact with and reluctantly (partially) assimilate into the larger black identity, they will help create divisions in its ranks, and pull many lighter blacks – whose numbers have been swelled by ongoing race-mixing – towards an anti-black mulatto identity.

    On the other hand, the cultural weirdness and extreme blackness of pure blacks from Africa will push lighter blacks away from black identity towards mulatto identity.

    So blacks are not yet ready to exclude a Kamala Harris, not as long as she’s mouthing pro-black platitudes anyway. But in time, it’s almost a foregone conclusion that the unity of black identity in America will shatter along color lines.

  187. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    I honestly haven't stopped thinking about that MAGA kid all day – in part because I think so many of us have been on the receiving end of the face he was making: a smug, untouchable, entitled 'fuck you'.

    Jessica was raised in NYC and attended the elite (though public) Stuyvesant High. Stuyvesant has an entire, separate Wikipedia page of notable alumni. Covington Catholic's "notable alumni" consists entirely of about a half-dozen athletes. So who is the privileged one, exactly: Jessica or this kid?

    And WTF is 'prep school smirk'? What does it even mean?

    Here's an idea: if you can't imagine, or have never seen, said entitled smirk on anyone other than a young, white, attractive teenage boy, then 'prep school smirk' doesn't exist. It's an optical illusion imposed on the teenager by your own envy and biases. To be an actual facial expression with explicit meaning doesn't it have to be an expression pretty much anyone can give?

    Can you imagine seeing that 'entitled smirk' on a girl? On a 17-year-old boy with bad acne dressed in overalls? No. It's a psychological imposition of your own envy on that boy. You're envious of his youth, his good looks, his (presumed) wealth and good parenting. And that's all there is to it. There are plenty of assholes out there, young white prep school boys and otherwise. Having finished high school and lived in the real world for quite some time now I can tell you that there is absolutely no shortage of entitled, smug, arrogant assholes among the non-white, non-male, non-prep school population.

    And why is the Leftist media going stark raving mad about this (presumably) privileged, probably underage private school kid? They bent over backwards to protect Chelsea and Sasha and Malia from public scrutiny, even as those privileged daughters of powerful parents attended private schools with tuitions higher than the incomes of about 50% of working Americans.

    Oh and BTW, isn't it kinda racist to assume that a 16/17/18 year old white boy should be better behaved than an Indian man 3-4 times his age? How dare we expect Indians to know how to behave? They're just dumb, ignorant, probably alcoholic...oh wait, nevermind...

    OK and interesting… Jessica Valenti went to Stuyvesant…

    I did not know that, but this explains much….

    I’ve been familiar with her for years, and she is clearly a smarter than average white chick. She has also clearly embraced the idea that her true role is to be a slut. But a high IQ white slut won’t do well at Stuyvesant. I went to a high school very much like that, a few years ahead, it seems, and the fact is that there were just not enough guys, either white or Asian, who were prepared to give the wannabe hot white sluts what they wanted. Sorry. Life can be a b*tch.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I’ve been familiar with her for years, and she is clearly a smarter than average white chick.
     
    Is she part Jewish?
  188. she is exactly the piece of American shit my sons will never, never, nevah force me to like! I really do hate American women most of all – they’re so disgustingly weak; and worse, angry and neurotic – there can only be one neurotic woman in a family, hahaaa!. So many young women, today, are so damaged, so beyond, and so fucked up. Well, my sons know I hate SJWs. They will most likely (I hope) link-up with Finns, Estonians or Japanese, Aussie/Kiwi women – I’m happy now.

  189. @Anonymous
    OK and interesting... Jessica Valenti went to Stuyvesant...

    I did not know that, but this explains much....

    I've been familiar with her for years, and she is clearly a smarter than average white chick. She has also clearly embraced the idea that her true role is to be a slut. But a high IQ white slut won't do well at Stuyvesant. I went to a high school very much like that, a few years ahead, it seems, and the fact is that there were just not enough guys, either white or Asian, who were prepared to give the wannabe hot white sluts what they wanted. Sorry. Life can be a b*tch.

    I’ve been familiar with her for years, and she is clearly a smarter than average white chick.

    Is she part Jewish?

  190. @reactionry
    Or worse:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9430173/South-African-12-year-old-drowned-in-boiling-water-after-seeing-parents-killed.html

    "Amaro Jose Viana, a South African of Portuguese descent" likely spoke some of the "divine language" popularlized in "The Fifth Element," some of which was translated as "Never without my permission" and had earlier been uttered by Vasco da Gama: "Ecto Gammat!"
    Bruce Willis successfully apologizes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFkR43j8fY
    and later when the Supreme Being (the underage "Leeloo"/Milla Jovovich) needs a pick-me-up, does some "Korben Dallas" cheerleading.
    And no, nutjobs, Gary Oldman/"Zorg" ≠ ZOG

    Too soon? Well, without some reminders, even if off-the-wall, such harbingers of white South African doom are too soon forgotten.

    I find the concept of a “Black Hebrew” doubly powerfully appalling (insert Robotnik meme)

    Myteriously, a cheap chinese knockoff of a Furby or a self-cleaning doormat comes to mind.

    Anyway, more on the most important politicial event this week by Russian Newswatch:

    ‘MAGA kids go into the woodchipper’: Disney producer tweets violent threat against Covington boys

    Missing in action: Supporters blast Trump for silence on Covington Catholic kids

    Also, Tweets speaking Truth To Power:

    Anti-Trump comedian Kathy Griffin, who famously shared an image of herself hoisting Trump’s bloody severed head, even advocated doxxing the student – and all of his classmates.

    Ps. The reply from the school was pathetic and impotent. Name these kids. I want NAMES. Shame them. If you think these fuckers wouldn’t dox you in a heartbeat, think again. https://t.co/IS80wiaQ7v

    — Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) January 20, 2019

    Hello? No-win, no-fee lawyers? There may be some money on the line….

  191. Jessica Valenti actually looks good on

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Valenti

    Who would suspect a vaginista when shown that pic.

    What Google brings up, however….

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    She's not unattractive, but big cities are a fertility sink for all except Haredi and Muslims. Add feminism and a media career and I'm surprised she has as many as one child.
    , @Moshe
    Another of those secret truths that we all know but pretend not to is that women use MAKEUP and that any woman who wants to look attractive can easily do so.

    That's why women focus on not being fat, everything else can be painted.
  192. Holding forth on a really unimportant subject

  193. @Rosie

    It is both practical and interesting, and certainly not “idle”.
     
    What is "interesting" about speculating about other people's' sexual fantasies that, in any case, you cannot prove one way or the other?

    Nothing.

    And there is certainly nothing practical about any of it, unless the intent is to weaponize your speculations against others. Of course, if you've already evaluated their ideas on the merits and found them wanting, then you can just, you know, argue the merits.

    You really see no practical purpose in understanding why someone does something?

    You also really believe that arguing it on the merits without understanding the above is going to get you anywhere with most people?

    Are you 12?

    No, you don’t believe that. You’re just embarrassed by how dumb your original comment was and rather than moving on you’re doubling down like a buffoon.

    Amazing…

    • Agree: vinteuil
    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
  194. @Svigor
    Back to school for you. No translation needed: Freud was a European-hating, Jewish, quack.

    How was Freud “European-hating”? Does everyone you disagree with just have to be “European-hating”?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    On his first trip to America he was overjoyed because he was bringing Americans 'the plauge' (Freudianism). He was also was obsessed with a slight his father had suffered when a non jew pushed his father into the gutter and knocked his hat off. Now bear in mind Freud did not witness this he merely heard about it. He had a lifelong animus against Europeans and pictured himself as Hannibal the oriental foreign invaded seeking to detroy Rome (Europe). He also later on in life declared that Jews should not have tow headed (blond) babies and wanted an end to assimilation.

    He was all told incredibly hostile to whites and fell out with Carl Jung because of it.
  195. @robwin
    If nothing else this story illustrates the value of the internet when it comes to exposing false news chicanery. Imagine how the original report would have played in the Age of the Three Networks.

    Definitely a bad week for the propaganda outlets. First the Buzz Feed fiasco and now this. One can only wonder if these occurrences will awaken the American public as to how they have been bamboozled over the years.

    “If nothing else this story illustrates the value of the internet when it comes to exposing false news chicanery.”

    And yet the Fake Charlottesville Narrative remains intact and IIRC the poor driver is doing a huge sentence. In fact several hate-tweeters managed to shoehorn the death of that hefty woman into their outraged tweets against Smiling While Catholic.

  196. @El Dato
    Jessica Valenti actually looks good on

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Valenti

    Who would suspect a vaginista when shown that pic.

    What Google brings up, however....

    She’s not unattractive, but big cities are a fertility sink for all except Haredi and Muslims. Add feminism and a media career and I’m surprised she has as many as one child.

  197. @WJ
    Correct. There is almost no way this guy was in VN if he was born in 1955. The last of the regular infantry units came in 71 and all that was left were some advisers and air crews before the final pullout in 73. Assuming he turned 18 in 73 there was not much chance he graduated basic and advanced training before 74 so who knows, perhaps he was part of the final evacuation in 75. I would have to see his DD 214 before I believed that.

    Of course if you say "native American Vietnam vet" all rationality goes out the window.

    Of course if you say “native American Vietnam vet” all rationality goes out the window.

    This demented clown with his drum, he’s been dining out for years on this. Off whitey. Though I’ll bet all Indians know he is a fake Viet vet though he was probably been in our military…..sometime.

  198. Fake news, Sailor! It’s fact that Jessica Valenti only sleeps with black guys.

  199. anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2
    How was Freud "European-hating"? Does everyone you disagree with just have to be "European-hating"?

    On his first trip to America he was overjoyed because he was bringing Americans ‘the plauge’ (Freudianism). He was also was obsessed with a slight his father had suffered when a non jew pushed his father into the gutter and knocked his hat off. Now bear in mind Freud did not witness this he merely heard about it. He had a lifelong animus against Europeans and pictured himself as Hannibal the oriental foreign invaded seeking to detroy Rome (Europe). He also later on in life declared that Jews should not have tow headed (blond) babies and wanted an end to assimilation.

    He was all told incredibly hostile to whites and fell out with Carl Jung because of it.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Had you told Freud that he wasn't a European he would have thought you were crazy. What babbling lunatic gives you "information". It is obviously made up.
  200. @Anonymous

    The most difficult thing when working with Postmodernists is remembering that, for them, nothing is real, words are weapons, ... and social status is all because only groups exist.
     
    Citation please?

    Citation please

    Hicks, _Explaining Postmodernism_, as cited in my original post. Hicks gives a fairly good plausibility argument, which is about as good as you will get in philosophy and politics.

    You might also try direct observation. Start with Tiny Duck, antifa, and then look for similarities in other leftists. OC’s comment that the progressives would “run train” on the conservatives comes to mind.[1, 2]. Work down to Hillary Clinton. In my experience, there is nothing better than fresh data (data gathered more recently than the time it takes the underlying process to change appreciably).

    Note that a Postmodernist would simply dismiss the above, on the basis of individual commitment (outrage or the like) which would be legitimated because the individual doesn’t really exist, but is a creation of social groups. Therefore, a committed individual really represents a committed group, and if you take on one, you take on the entire group. Not a lot different from Hells Angels, or from a clan system, when you think about it. The _argumentum ad baculum_ dates back to Og, the greatest politician Homo Sapiens has yet produced, and (surprisingly) a contemporary of Ugh, greatest tactician to date.

    The other thing that any observer has to do is to treat the Postmodernists crunchies (activists) as if they were cute children or child like because not very smart. Women especially do that, acting as if they were defending their children from their husband, but many men do that as well (Personal observation). Remember that lions also have a low IQ, but are perfectly functional predators quite capable of taking an unarmed adult Homo Sapiens.

    You can say much the same about some primates [3] if they decide to treat you as an equal. The low IQ of his attackers didn’t save Oberle, nor did their low IQ make Oberle’s attackers cute kids. Adults of the species are _adults_, not kids and not handicapped. Try to give Postmodernists as least as much respect as you do adult lions and more closely related adult primates.

    Oberle didn’t, and now has a permanent testosterone deficiency[4].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] David Rutz.
    Ocasio-Cortez: We’re Going to ‘Run Train on the Progressive Agenda’
    _The Washington Free Beacon_, 2018/01/16
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-were-going-to-run-train-on-the-progressive-agenda/
    2] For an explanaition of “run train”, See:
    Hunter S. Thompson.
    _Hell’s Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs_.
    1966.
    Search for “pulling the Angels train”.
    3] Bazi Kanani, Adam Seecrhrisst, and Alyssa Newcomb.
    “Andrew Oberle: Chimp Attack Victim Was Standing in Restricted Area”.
    _abc News_, 2012/07/01.
    https://abcnews.go.com/International/andrew-oberle-chimp-attack-victim-standing-restricted-area/story?id=16689076

  201. Should be “Snide and Prejudiced”, with a d on the end; just sayin.

  202. @Henry's Cat
    Anyone who sat through The Deer Hunter qualifies in my book.

    Don’t get me started.

  203. @anonymous
    On his first trip to America he was overjoyed because he was bringing Americans 'the plauge' (Freudianism). He was also was obsessed with a slight his father had suffered when a non jew pushed his father into the gutter and knocked his hat off. Now bear in mind Freud did not witness this he merely heard about it. He had a lifelong animus against Europeans and pictured himself as Hannibal the oriental foreign invaded seeking to detroy Rome (Europe). He also later on in life declared that Jews should not have tow headed (blond) babies and wanted an end to assimilation.

    He was all told incredibly hostile to whites and fell out with Carl Jung because of it.

    Had you told Freud that he wasn’t a European he would have thought you were crazy. What babbling lunatic gives you “information”. It is obviously made up.

  204. One must include, of course, the Hillary smirk, balanced by the sneer.

    The nice thing about the former Miss Valenti, is that if she allows her husband near her she is going to pop out a whole bunch of white boy children. It’ll be great. Maybe she’ll retard their puberty so they can become trans.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "if she allows her husband near her she is going to pop out a whole bunch of white boy children"

    She's 40 and had a daughter 6 years ago. Her clock is running down fast. Feminism, a media job and city living = few kids.

  205. @Tyrion 2
    "The novel", with its intelligent speculation on the thoughts and feelings of its characters which, in its highest forms, drive the narrative, is the distinctive European art form.

    Understanding people, and them understanding you, is also, not uncoincidentally, the basis of complex social organisation.

    Indeed, the decline of reading great literature among the elite correlates well with the decline of said elite and their governing of European countries. Cinema and similar can make excellent art but will very rarely give the level of psychological insight offered by the novel.


    All this pseudofreudian psychobabble is really Jewy. Can’t we just note that these people are abetting the harassment of a teenage boy who dindu nuffin and leave it at that?
     
    So nobody can ask "why" someone does something? Understanding motivations is "really Jewy"?

    You must be a hoot to be in a relationship with...let my "really Jewy" self suggest you try this sometime, those around you will appreciate it.

    How can the author of a novel, any novel, from the best (say Anna Karenina) to the worst (anything by Philip Roth) be said to “speculate”, intelligently or otherwise, about the “thoughts and feelings of its (i.e. his) characters”?

    We are the ones doing the speculating, and a novelist’s greatness is measured by his ability to both awaken that speculation, and then satisfy it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Philip Roth is so awful and his autobiography disguised as fiction is so dated. Tolstoy is just glorious.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Tolstoy tells us what he thinks his characters are thinking. Perhaps it is a bit kooky to say he is only intelligently speculating on them, but that does seem to be a good description of the creative process.
  206. @propagandist hacker
    from 1984 by orwell:

    "It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself – anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: Facecrime, it was called. "

    “Facecrime, it was called”.

    And will be again, very soon.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    https://youtu.be/kx_G2a2hL6U?t=140

    Yep. Starbucks Megaphone Guy and Oppressive Drumbanging Elder will stick it to Whitey from BOTH SIDES.

  207. @Old Palo Altan
    "Facecrime, it was called".

    And will be again, very soon.

    Yep. Starbucks Megaphone Guy and Oppressive Drumbanging Elder will stick it to Whitey from BOTH SIDES.

  208. Moral Lecture from non-black Israelites.

    Includes an uplifiting “What Would His Holiness McCain do?” moral rectifier.

    https://twitter.com/sshotbot/status/1087155546732412928

  209. @markflag
    One must include, of course, the Hillary smirk, balanced by the sneer.

    The nice thing about the former Miss Valenti, is that if she allows her husband near her she is going to pop out a whole bunch of white boy children. It'll be great. Maybe she'll retard their puberty so they can become trans.

    “if she allows her husband near her she is going to pop out a whole bunch of white boy children”

    She’s 40 and had a daughter 6 years ago. Her clock is running down fast. Feminism, a media job and city living = few kids.

  210. @JimB

    All these white lady liberals are sexualizing the boys in an unseemly manner.
     
    Oh, like in the same way white lady liberals sexualized Obama in an unseemly way? Mainly, they do this because they are sexually starved in a world of Pajama boys and BGTQ men. I couldn’t help noticing the spray on jeans, miniskirts, and cleavage/midriff revealing shirts worn by young woman attending the Womyn’s March in SF and DC. Even the ones who looked like 230 lbs of chewed bubblegum. Perhaps they were hoping to be ravaged by the evil white patriarchy — in the end they had to settle for catcalls and groping by equally sexually frustrated homeless men.

    You must have X Ray vision to see thru winter coats and jackets in January with snow on the ground. If you hate them so much why did you watch?

  211. @anon
    "Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I have a great deal of affection for my boys and their friends, and little time for women who would use them, sexually or otherwise. So I won’t take risks in that regard, but rather gather them under my wings when and where I can and keep them far, far away from the Jessica Valentis of the world."

    Dude, your're the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to "save" his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.

    I agree. There’s s lot of sexual perversion masquerading as prudery on Unz. It reminds me of a 19th century preacher wanting to get on the local censorship board so he can look at dirty pictures.

  212. @Hippopotamusdrome


    The Indian is probably a veteran who lives on a large mental disability check

     

    ...


    Native Man Who Harassed Catholic Teens Linked To Big Money Left-Wing Activism

    “[Phillips] is a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance,” according to Heavy.

    ...the larger well-funded Native Youth Leadership ... is currently promoting Phillips’ fundraising campaign stemming from the incident with the Catholic teens.

    The Native Youth Leadership Alliance (NYLA) is a non-profit organization that is funded by the same far-left power players who are often involved in bankrolling leftist causes. The organization’s funding partners include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Social Justice Fund Northwest.

     

    Thank you so much. I assumed it was something like that.

  213. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G.Camara
    Women like Valenti are a dime a dozen in NYC. Raised in broken, dysfunctional homes but with the veneer of NYC privilege and worldliness, they cling to feminism and other depravity and castigate the strong men who never rode into save them from the city predators targeting them and mommy and daddy not bothering to care.

    And then they get drunk and try to hook up with said strong men when their weak boyfriends aren't looking. Skanks to the end, but cocktails showing what they really want.

    Heartiste is right; a cocky smirk is everything.

    There’s a lot of them in California. They claim to be more sophisticated and educated than we rube Californians.

    Most claim to have been molested by stepfathers. They spend their lives wailing about it in support groups.
    So many transplanted New Yorkers claim molestation by step fathers I’ve grieb very skeptical about the claims.

  214. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @njguy73

    Dude, your’re the one sounding like a creepy old dad who wants to “save” his boy from those terrible women. Maybe you could recommend the priesthood for him.
     
    What would you say to a twelve-year-old boy who approached you and asked you how he could survive in this world of ours?

    I’d tell him what we told our sons and grandsons. I’d tell him that as White man he will be discriminated against in everything he does. I’d tell him the best way to get into college or a career is to just check the black box on all applications.

    I’d tell him that 3 black men together is almost always s mugging team and to watch out for mugging teams. I’d teach him to fight as we did. Not sissy boy karate but boxing and to break the attacker’s nose first. I’d tell the kid to attack and hit hard as any White man is worth 3 blacks in a fight

    That’s what we told our boys when they were 10. We didn’t worry about their sex lives. One did date a law student when he was 18. We thought it was cool.

  215. @Old Palo Altan
    How can the author of a novel, any novel, from the best (say Anna Karenina) to the worst (anything by Philip Roth) be said to "speculate", intelligently or otherwise, about the "thoughts and feelings of its (i.e. his) characters"?

    We are the ones doing the speculating, and a novelist's greatness is measured by his ability to both awaken that speculation, and then satisfy it.

    Philip Roth is so awful and his autobiography disguised as fiction is so dated. Tolstoy is just glorious.

  216. @George
    Why are they called boys when they are old enough to be tried as adult men. Why are they referred to as 'white boys'?

    Legally they are termed minors. Would it satisfy you if they are called male minors?

  217. Wow, just wow (Hitler comparisons at this late point in the unraveling of this particular micro-narrative): http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=59710

    Still trying to parse the “babies made out of incest” slur from the Black Hebrew Israelites.

  218. @Old Palo Altan
    How can the author of a novel, any novel, from the best (say Anna Karenina) to the worst (anything by Philip Roth) be said to "speculate", intelligently or otherwise, about the "thoughts and feelings of its (i.e. his) characters"?

    We are the ones doing the speculating, and a novelist's greatness is measured by his ability to both awaken that speculation, and then satisfy it.

    Tolstoy tells us what he thinks his characters are thinking. Perhaps it is a bit kooky to say he is only intelligently speculating on them, but that does seem to be a good description of the creative process.

  219. @Anon Handle
    Backup plan time! Sure, the harassment-by-smiling story fell apart, but we've found another way to attack the future Kavanaughs at Covington Catholic. From the NY Daily News:

    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-sports-covington-nathan-phillips-nick-sandmann-20190121-story.html

    A Twitter photo, apparently sourced from a "cannabis health consultant", shows crowd members at a Covington basketball game in "blackface" (also known as paint that matches the crowd color) and engaged in "verbal abuse" of black players (also known as cheering against the other team).

    It’s called a “blackout” game. Common in competitive sports, especially big games against arch rivals. The players wear special black versions of their jerseys. The fans are encouraged to wear black and paint themselves black. Come on, even a Canadian knows this.

  220. @silviosilver

    man, why can’t we have a thread where people all introduce themselves and share interesting s*** like this.
     
    Translation: why can't you goy animals stop worrying so much about assaults on your interests and post trivialities instead?

    Silver, you have very serious mental problems.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Silver, you have very serious mental problems.
     
    Psychopathologize the competition--classic move, Dr. Freud.
  221. @El Dato
    Jessica Valenti actually looks good on

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Valenti

    Who would suspect a vaginista when shown that pic.

    What Google brings up, however....

    Another of those secret truths that we all know but pretend not to is that women use MAKEUP and that any woman who wants to look attractive can easily do so.

    That’s why women focus on not being fat, everything else can be painted.

  222. @Moshe
    Silver, you have very serious mental problems.

    Silver, you have very serious mental problems.

    Psychopathologize the competition–classic move, Dr. Freud.

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