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From the Washington Post:

Trump vs. an America that works
By Jennifer Rubin February 24 at 5:27 PM

In his column Friday taking to task President Trump and other immigration exclusionists, David Brooks writes: “For the life of me, I can’t figure out why so many Republicans prefer a dying white America to a place like, say, Houston.”

Instead of letting the phrase fade into obscurity, the neocons are doubling down on “dying white America.”

By that we take it to mean that Trump glorifies the Rust Belt and rural America, the causalities in globalization and automation, but paints U.S. cities as dangerous.

That’s what you get for electing as President some small town Rust Belter like Trump. He’s from Marion, Indiana, right?

Trump’s policies in many cases seeks to wreak havoc (e.g., staging immigration raids, threatening city funding). His immigration raids are already causing economic disruption in construction and food service industries.

Well, Brooks answers the question for himself:

Put differently, Houston and other vibrant mid- and large-size cities, especially those in the Sun Belt, are a repudiation of Trump’s notions that we must keep foreigners out; “liberal elites” are unconcerned with the little guy; we’ve been “losing” at globalization; and that only he can “bring the jobs back.” …

On one level, this is hardly surprising since Trump’s message is aimed at Americans who are resentful, feel left behind and are both physically and culturally marginalized. The flip side of this, however, is that Trump either ignores or vilifies urban America

What does Trump know about city living? Has he ever been more than two stories off the ground in his whole backwoods life?

And, moreover, the presence of vibrant cities not just on the coasts but also in the heartland suggests Trump’s base would greatly benefit by moving from dead and dying Rust Belt towns to more economically vibrant places.

You know, when I was at Rice U. in Houston from 1976-1980, the city was a magnet for Americans looking for work. Now it’s a magnet for foreigners.

Some of that has already gone on as the population has shifted from the Northeast and upper Midwest to the South and West, but it seems we should not be filling Trump voters with the false hope that coal jobs are coming back, but rather encourage them to be like immigrants — go to where the work is.

But, funny, it turns out that immigrants have already gotten to Houston.

Trump fails to understand that immigrants go to places that have work, or at least work better than what they left.

And immediately bid down pay so that it’s not worthwhile for an American to move there.

Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey. The same immigrant mentality should be encouraged among native-born Americans.

But, of course, we shouldn’t encourage Americans to migrate internally by paying them more. Houston’s employers, such as ExxonMobil, aren’t made out of money, people! Even more fundamentally, offering Americans higher pay corrupts the purity of the economic process.

Why are American workers so mercenary? Immigrants aren’t materialistic. They don’t care about making an extra $5 per hour, they care about getting Green Cards for their entire clan or subcaste. Those are family values, folks, something you greedy, worthless American losers don’t know about.

Instead, we should encourage Americans by repeatedly telling them that they are evil losers and that foreigners are the Real Americans.

In sum, rather than leave Americans in Rust Belt isolation, with a shriveled job market, it makes sense to encourage and assist them to move to productive areas of the country, which in many cases means a more urban environment. There they might learn that immigrants aren’t out to steal their jobs or murder their kids. And they might find themselves reconnecting to their fellow Americans.

Of course, most of their fellow Americans haven’t even moved to America yet. But they will, they will!

 
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  1. Jake says:

    Of course Neocons are doubling down. They have thus far gotten away with everything they’ve done, no matter the destruction they have caused.

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.

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    I think of the "conservative" jews as the jews who drew the short straws at the meeting.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.
     
    This could have been reworded without any of the anti-semitic overtones:

    The wealthy elites agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of Americans are barely better off than serfs
     
    , @Alex123
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  2. Mr. Blank says:

    Boy, they’re not doing themselves any favors here…

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Might be a good time to get into the bakery business with all this cake our betters would have us eat.

    That or the guillotine business.

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  3. Halvorson says:

    paints U.S. cities as dangerous

    Might be helpful for Jennifer to note the time Trump’s 79 year old mother was thrown to the ground by a mugger and suffered a brain hemorrhage. It just could be that Trump’s interest in protecting city dwellers from random violence is not some elaborate political ploy, but something he actually believes in.

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    paints U.S. cities as dangerous
     
    Chicago has murders exceeding NYC and LA combined. Then there are Baltimore, Memphis, St. Louis, Detroit, Milwaukee, Washington, Oakland, Atlanta, Cleveland, Washington, and a few others that have violent crimes rates 2x-3x that of NYC.

    No "painting" required. Rubin is apparently loath to use facts that might confuse her narrative. Trump has lived through NYC's 2000+ murders per year, and seen the results of making a city safer with a 90% reduction in murder.
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  4. Anonym says:

    There must be a pay shortage, or maybe a labor shortage for Shabbos Goy writers at places like the WaPo, for it to be necessary for Rubin herself to do the doubling down on the anti-whitism. Instead, they need to employ Judas goat goys for such roles. Once hired, you can say to them “Do this!” Or “Do that!”. In the NYT they even have people helpfully named for such purposes. “Hey Ross. Douthat!”

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  5. JerryC says:

    You know things are serious when she uses the word “vibrant” 3 times in the same article.

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  6. Meanwhile here in Connecticut, we had an Amber Alert today when a previously-deported El Salvadorian man abducted his six-year-old daughter after stabbing her mother to death.

    This happens a day after our glorious governor went of TV last night and claimed he instructed our state police not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities to save money (which is a political lie, of course). This bastard Governor Dannel Malloy has made us a sanctuary state, and now Trump’s luck brings us a stabbing murder and kidnapping by one of our precious illegal aliens (future Democrat voter).

    Will this story get any national attention?

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/CT-Amber-Alert-Issued-for-6-Year-Old-Girl-After-Bridgeport-Stabbing-414693153.html

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    • Replies: @Marina
    Great. We're planning to move back there.

    So my husband and I relocated to NYC for his career. We've been here about five years. For his career? It's been amazing. But now that we have kids the nice stuff about urban living is being outweighed by the realities of urban living far from family and without a car.

    I'm in late pregnancy and I can't just drop my toddler off with my mother for a few hours so I can rest. Actually, getting childcare for the birth of this next child is a huge hassle that it wouldn't be in my hometown. Grocery shopping on foot for a family, with a toddler is a miserable chore, especially if you want to use an economical option like Costco. We're managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom. Carrying laundry downstairs to the laundry room while corraling a one year old is an exercise in frustration, but he can't be left alone in the apartment for ten minutes, etc.

    Forget city living. I want my small town, my community where I know everyone, and a minivan and some space.
    , @Dr. X

    Will this story get any national attention?
     
    Probably not any more than this story, about an illegal alien who fatally injured a Christian pastor's 14-year old daughter in a DUI crash while they were getting a Christmas Tree on Christmas Eve...

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2017/02/14/man-gets-6-18-years-crash-killed-pastors-teen-daughter/97895052/
    , @Kurt van Ghoye
    Malloy joins a long line of Irish shabbos goys. Weak-willed stuff, that.
    , @e
    You might be interested in tonight's Tucker Carlson interview of the mayor of Hartford.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFf1O4x5as
    , @biz
    Interesting - we received this Amber Alert on the radio yesterday many states away. Interestingly, the abductor who we were supposed to be on the lookout for was described by the recording as a, quote, "white Hispanic." That is not the description I would use after seeing that picture.
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  7. IOW, Rubin is telling us that all these immigrants are here for no reason other than to improve their standard of living.

    So apparently when immigrants do this, it’s considered praiseworthy. When middle class American citizens try to improve their standard of living, the ruling elites denounce that as “greed.”

    I am confused.

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  8. Coemgen says:

    White America is dying from all the knives being jabbed into it – neocon elites having reserved White America’s back as their place to thrust their blades.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    As pointed out in another post:

    It’s almost as if rich people and rich organizations have more power to influence which phrases colonize our minds.
     
    Their use of "dying white America" trades on our ability to entertain the concept of dying without identifying a killer.
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  9. the cities are so vibrant how can you resist

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  10. pyrrhus says:

    Here’s a match made in heaven: Jennifer Rubin and Bill Kristol…ceremonies will be in Jerusalem..

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Many people would chip in to help Rubin and Kristol leave the USA permanently!
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks' junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]
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  11. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Gee, I wonder what Kristol, Brooks, and Rubin could have in common.

    But is there anything in Gen. Kelly, safety, The Wall, safety, bad guys, bad hombres, safety, criminals, safety, DREAMer waffling, past waffling on H-1Bs, and the squandering of political capital on useless EO’s that suggests that Trump is serious about restricting immigration in the name of anything other than preventing crime and terrorism?

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    They're Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.
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  12. Mr. Blank says:

    This reminds me of this piece from last year in National Review. I believe this is the article which finally caused me to stop reading them:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433424/american-economy-how-revitalize-it

    Get a load of this quote in particular: “Do American parents really aspire to have their children sitting at a sewing machine making shirts? Or do they want their children to become doctors, computer programmers, or technology specialists — good jobs with good futures.”

    I think that pretty much sums up their incredibly shallow worldview. Essentially, they think all these white losers out in the hinterlands just need to move to Silicon Valley and become software engineers. That way, they can all live in nice houses and have little brown people do their housework, too. Why are those red-staters so gosh-darn stubborn? Why can’t they follow this obvious and natural career path?

    Apparently, that really is their half-assed solution to immigration. I used to joke about how that was their solution, but over the past year or so, it’s become clear to me that, no, it’s not a joke, that REALLY IS the solution, and they really think it will work.

    Glenn Reynolds is right: We really do have an exceptionally bad governing class.

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    National Review's writers really buy into what I would call the education is magic theory. You can take anyone from any background or intelligence level and with the right schools and training turn that person into a doctor or engineer. They seem to understand this doesn't hold true for other areas like music or athletic ability, it only works in education.
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  13. newrouter says:

    In sum, rather than leave Americans in Rust Belt isolation, with a shriveled job market, it makes sense to encourage and assist them to move to productive areas of the country, which in many cases means a more urban environment.

    Writing from near Pittsburgh: I find pundits who use “Rust Belt” nearly 40 years after Big Steel’s collapse “bubble” ignorant. There may be a few derelict manufacturing facility here and there but for the most part all the old manufacturing facilities have been scrapped. For example on the southside of Pittsburgh the former LTV Steel mill is now a mixed use area of shops and housing. The only thing remaining of LTV site is the tunnel that Pgh & Lake Erie RR built now used by CSX RR. The LTV site across the Monogahela is now used by Uber and CMU. Same with USS Homestead works of strike notoriety. The whole site is mixed use commercial, residential recreational.(US Steel has an office there).

    Since Big Steel’s collapse, there hasn’t a big boom in any area of industry but there hasn’t been any collapse either. We have fracking, Uber/Google/CMU, healthcare, steel (it is memorable to cross the Geo Westinghouse bridge on certain mornings and see the steam emanating from USX Edgar Thomson plant.).

    Mostly what clowns like Rubin don’t want to understand is that the idiot regulations put out by the federal gov’t during the last 8 years are the problem. I used to do air pollution monitoring maintenance at 2 local power plants that burned coal. One has been shut down and the other has been forced to install a scrubber. For what gain? The air isn’t much cleaner(2010-2017) but jobs are gone. The administrative state has crashed into the wall of” diminishing returns”.
    So. I’m happy that Pres. Trump is taking on the regulatory state. Give ‘em hell Donald.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    " Same with USS Homestead works of strike notoriety."

    I went there a few years ago. Not too much left to see.

    , @Hibernian
    I went through Pittsburgh on Amtrak about 7 years ago. Sure seemed to be a lot of derelict industrial sites. Of course things can change in 7 years.
    , @Bleuteaux
    Can't speak for Pittsburg, but in my areas of the Rust Belt (not Michigan), the abandoned factories are still here. Abandoned factories, abandoned warehouses, abandoned everything. I do not understand why they aren't torn down. Some could be rehabed. Most are a disaster.
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  14. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve,

    The drumbeat against the native American worker goes on with ever increasingly upward tempo: from David Brooks to Jennifer Rubin and topped off by Kevin Williamson.

    Williamson is the most egregious of the lot since he pawns himself off as an American yeoman.

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  15. And, moreover, the presence of vibrant cities not just on the coasts but also in the heartland suggests Trump’s base would greatly benefit by moving from dead and dying Rust Belt towns to more economically vibrant places.

    Jennifer Rubin channels the great Sam Kinison

    “MOVE TO WHERE THE [ETHNIC] FOOD IS!!!”

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  16. Drake says:

    Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey.

    Every homeless person who moves into your house is a vote of confidence, a bet that there is economic prosperity available to them at the end of their journey.

    A sensible argument for open front doors.

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    • Replies: @WR
    A sensible argument indeed. How could anybody disagree with it? One immigrant = one vote of confidence. Since by definition America is a country of immigrants, any of the roughly 300 million current inhabitants of this country is an immigrant (whether they know it or not). Thus, we only need to let in three billion NEW immigrants if we want to experience a tenfold increase in confidence. Which, needless to say, would be awesome. Thanks (((Rubin))) for sharing with us your discovery of this scientific law!
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  17. Kaz says:

    Americans do have to move. That’s just economics.

    There is no point in a city that was a coal boom town decades ago. Or had some manufacturing plant.. We’re keeping these people on life support with welfare, it’s the only thing that sustains them. Maybe decades later when we’ve grown out the other developing urban centers across the midwest and southeast we’ll go back to West Virginia. But for the time being… just obesity and meth remains.

    You don’t have to move to San Francisco or Manhattan, there are hundreds of suburbs/exurbs surrounding many urban centers across the country with plenty of jobs.

    Carpet baggers make America great.

    That’s just my opinion though.

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    • Replies: @The Ferret
    I think the way to fund this is by taxing the ever living fuck out of coastal areas so that mortgage forgiveness can take place and these people can afford to move. I think that's the fairest way to depopulate these areas by forcibly relocating people in coastal areas and jamming them into the same accommodations those relo'ing could afford instead of creating a new underclass.
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  18. (((David Brooks))). (((Jennifer Rubin))). Every. Damn. Time.

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    • Replies: @Alfa158
    It is really getting monotonous, but in the long run it may work out be for the best that they feel they no longer have to hide or pretend anymore. When even the Nazis decided they were going to commit genocide, they carried out the program on the QT rather than openly boasting about it.
    , @(((Owen)))
    (((Stephen Miller))), (((Jared Kushner))), (((Ron Unz))), (((Ivanka))), (((Binyamin Netanyahu))).
    , @bored identity
    I'm confused...

    What's the meaning of all these tiny triple parenthesis framing their names?

    Are they some kind of earthquake survivors?
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  19. Bugg says:

    At a loss under any economic analysis how adding more low-skilled ESL people makes any sense. Invariably they overtax resources. And to do so in a time where low end labor is more automated every day is beyond stupid. More resources divided among fewer people who still contribute is better than the same resources being divided by more people who contribute less or nothing. Let Rubin open up her house to the Dreamers. Brooks is even more laughable; his family has rejected even being American.He cannot even convince his own son to buy into America.

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  20. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Her shill message seems to be that Invisible Hand migrating unfeeling helots are characteristic of an ideal political system running at 99.999% efficiency. Forget the immigration-fueled black market for a moment– It’s hilariously crass to scold Rust Belters for not jumping up and packing their bags for ex-exurban shantytowns in Riverside County to more efficiently vie for the opportunity to cut Rubin’s lawn in West L.A. There’s a lot of cluelessness going on in her entire world view. I am reminded of that old WPA black-and-white photo by Dorothea Lange of the raisin-picker vagabond and her 6 kids; just boldly caption it, “The Way Jen Rubin’s America Works

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  21. They actually used the word vibrant. Just wow.

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  22. Ragno says:

    Steve, this isn’t the first time you handed Jennifer Rubin a sippy-cup, returned her to her FisherPrice highchair, and told her to keep still until all of the big people had finished talking.

    Maybe you should start restricting yourself to higher-hanging fruit, though. In fact, I’m beginning to wonder if there’s any point to critiquing…..you should pardon the phrase…. Legacy Journalism, or whatever’s left of it, any longer.

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    In fact, I’m beginning to wonder if there’s any point to critiquing…..you should pardon the phrase…. Legacy Journalism, or whatever’s left of it, any longer.
     
    Critiquing, you say? I don't think there's any reason to pay attention to Legacy Journalism--what I call the ankle-biting media. Aside from the fake news produced, the cognitive dissonance over the election, and the shrieking and baying over Trump's latest tweet, there doesn't appear to be any actual news reported.

    For the price of a beer in any local tavern, you can avail yourself of similar 3rd rate analysis and 4th rate opinions as the national fish wrap.
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  23. Polyclone says:

    I have to admit that in that past I’ve been uncomfortable with the alt rights use of the parentheses thing to highlight people of a chosen nature. A chosen tribe, if you will.

    I still do feel that discomfort. But. I have to say, the way that the specific pundits being referenced here use the word white is getting dangerously close to sounding like “non urban gentiles that we can’t be expected to have empathy for”.

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    I still do feel that discomfort. But. I have to say, the way that the specific pundits being referenced here use the word white is getting dangerously close to sounding like “non urban gentiles that we can’t be expected to have empathy for”.

    I am still waiting for a comment to be allowed, or disallowed, as the case may be. Your use of euphemism is good. Maybe this comment will get published. Meanwhile, some relaxing music to ponder Rubin/Brooks anti-whitism. Whatever do they have in common?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53N99Nim6WE
    , @King Baeksu

    I have to say, the way that the specific pundits being referenced here use the word white is getting dangerously close to sounding like “non urban gentiles that we can’t be expected to have empathy for”.
     
    Don't get so uppity, peasant. Only They're allowed to do the noticing.
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  24. Achilles says:

    Interestingly, one is beginning to see a small split in the NeverTrump coalition that has been playing out in the contrived and semantic debate over “nationalism” vs “patriotism.”

    The Jewish Neocons are the most hardline and absolutist about mass Third World immigration and take the position, often with little subtlety, that an affection for and bias in favor of the American nation-state is Nazi-ism and anyone who resists the large-scale dilution and de facto ethnic cleansing of natural born Americans with immigrants from Third World cultures is at least bordering on being a Nazi if not one outright.

    At National Review this has been the position of Jonah Goldberg, who approves of American “patriotism” as defined by him as being an attachment to certain universalist propositions extracted from the founding documents of the Federal government, but who disapproves of American “nationalism,” again as he defines it, and denies the legitimacy of notions like an American “people” or an American “nation.” David Brooks, Jennifer Rubin and numerous other Jewish Neocons are also in this camp. That these universalist propositions they claim to be so fond of were the product of the cultural history of a particular people is a point they try to ignore.

    Now recently we have been seeing Rich Lowry and Ramesh Ponnuru starting to slowly back away from the Goldberg position, which position frankly can be described not unfairly as anti-Americanism. The former see the existence of a benign strain of nationalism in America which is healthy and not problematic for the body politic.

    National Review’s Victor Davis Hanson distanced himself from the Goldberg position some time ago, ever since it became clear that Trump was likely to win the Republican nomination. For a long time before that Hanson has written books and articles about the many problems in California caused by unrestricted immigration.

    Another interesting data point was Charles Murray making a U-turn recently and conceding that maybe the citizens of a nation do indeed owe something to each other over and above what they owe to others in the world, and coming out for a pause in low-skilled immigration in order to benefit the American working class.

    The obligations Murray was referring to is nothing other than American self-government, and in fact I suggest that this is what the hardline Jewish Neocons are against. Self-government is when the people of a community, such as a nation-state, control the machinery of government in order to secure what is explicitly considered to be their own self-interest. When other interests, such as internationalist Marxists or globalist business interests, manage to coopt the machinery of government to serve their own interests, self-government is thwarted.

    More people may be beginning to recognize, if not willing to say out loud, that there is an ethnic dynamic at work with the Jewish part of the Neocons. They will never give up this position no matter how dangerous and damaging to the American people because it is bound up in their own blinkered identity and self-conception and neuroses and particlar history in Eastern Europe.

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    • Replies: @Cicatrizatic
    Well said.
    , @anon
    I gave up NR a decade ago, but this explains why Jonah Goldberg is accepted as the house conservative on NPR...
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  25. Trump’s policies … seeks….

    I make a hojillion typographical errors in this forum a week, but I’m just a schlub with a day job and a shitty commute seeking intelligent interaction via his telephone; my briefs and memoranda, nevermind the stuff I have published in professional and academic journals, are impeccable, not because I am infallible, but because I proofread them.

    What gives with these ostensibly professional writers? They are literally professional writers, not, like me, professionals writing; their whole damned job is to write! Yet they cannot make their subjects and verbs agree. I see this stuff constantly anymore. It used to go without saying that if you wanted to, say, write for the New York Times, you had to actually be a competent – indeed, an excellent – writer (mere competency maybe landed you at, say, the Indianapolis Star).

    I suppose it’s all another manifestation of our not being able to have nice things anymore….

    …they might learn that immigrants aren’t out to steal their jobs or murder their kids….

    I can attest first hand they sure as Hell are out to steal your stuff, if not your job, and to assault you, if not murder your kids….

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    • Agree: (((Owen)))
    • Replies: @SFG
    I suspect having to use 'they' as a third person singular to avoid sexism is scrambling their brains somewhat, at least if taught under the old system.
    , @SPMoore8
    "I see this stuff constantly anymore." -- That's a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.

    You can sure that the Washington Post has copy editors and editors above Jennifer Rubin who sign off on everything she writes. As noted, subject verb agreement is an issue not only because of the ubiquitous "they" (not talking about Gomez, right now) which can be s. or p. but also because there is apparently a British tradition that is different from ours.

    The writings of the elites always surprise me with their arrogance and flippancy with regard to how actual people live their lives. Like the gal who wrote a column complaining about how there were too many deer in the Northeast (after she hit one) or the gal at the Wall Street Journal, decades ago, who said that some executive who was unemployed had only himself to blame for not relocating because he insisted on living close to his mother. Her solution: just put her in the trunk and move. This kind of stuff doesn't make me angry but it does remind me that these people are basically clueless, in human terms, about life in general.

    Okay, I'll bite. Let's send all the unemployed Americans who can't get a job or get ahead in life so they can have a home and raise a family and send them to whatever metropolis she lives in. Along with certifiable vibrancy, there will also be all the problems with urban sprawl. But don't worry, the government will solve all of that.

    As someone also already noted, there really is a "let them eat cake" mentality at work here.
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  26. Dumbo says:

    I think the globalist elites (and many useful idiots) believe that everybody thinks like them. That is, moving from one place to another after depleting all its resources is the best way to live. Since deracination works for them, it must work for everybody.

    But moving from one city to another in search of jobs may be fun for a minority, but for most people it’s a) expensive or even unaffordable, b) lonesome as you lose your family connections, c) puts you at a disadvantage with the locals, especially if there’s a lot of immigration increasing the labour force and driving down wages.

    Also, maybe for some people making more money is not the main objective, maybe for some it is more important having family and friends nearby, or to be able to live in the place where you were born.

    From one of the commenters at Rubin’s article:

    MSmarts
    6:36 PM EST
    Exactly. And if a town disappears, we should make the land a park. Our national parks are central to our American identity, good for our health, and great for international tourism.

    No comment…

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    c) puts you at a disadvantage with the locals, especially if there’s a lot of immigration increasing the labour force and driving down wages.
     
    This highlights what a remarkable support system has been established for foreign immigrants to this country. There are multitudes of welcoming committees; advocacy groups; and lawyers dedicated to immigration; not to mention the informal groups such as Ethiopians working in airports and Indian tech workers.

    The legal aspect flabbergasts me. Myself and some business groups I'm in have to really scrape to get any legal work done; and cases linger for years. Yet here are immigrants, getting federal judges et al to do their bidding.
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  27. Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey. The same immigrant mentality should be encouraged among native-born Americans.

    Wow a vote of confidence that the U.S. has better economic prospects than dynamos like Guatemala, Pakistan and the Philippines. And the same logic applies to the quality of life you find in those cities that are now jam packed with people bidding up housing prices. What is wrong with these Americans? Don’t they know the living conditions in Houston are better than Cebu City, Karachi and Managua? What are they nuts??

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    "Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey."

    It's like saying if I steal your money, it's a vote of confidence that your money(now my money) wasn't counterfeit.
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  28. Perhaps Jennifer is just projecting. 2015-2016 was quite possibly the beginning of the waning of Jewish America. They have peaked and will slide down like the WASPs did two generations ago. They have money but demographically they are cooked. Politically, they will be turfed out of the left by the changing demographics much they same way it is already occurring in Europe and the right is coalescing in spite the Jews best efforts to prevent it. Worse, the media, which as always been their ace in the hole has turned out to be not omnipotent which must give them major schpelkis. I think Jennifer Rubin might want to start looking after her own posterity instead of just tearing down her nemesis’.

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    Of the European countries, only the UK and France have a sizeable Jewish community, and it is nowhere near the proportion in NY state or Harvard University. In the rest of Europe, their influence is like the Wizard of Oz.

    One card in their favor is that increased out-marriage among the non-Orthodox will actually increase the number of people identifying as Jewish, because it doesn't carry the negative connation of "meanness" associated with Christianity, and offers victim chits higher than claiming no religious identity. And identifying as "Jewish" even with say only 1/4th ancestry, doesn't mean you have to observe kosher.
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  29. Rob McX says:

    Reading this and the recent comments made by Brooks and Kristol, I’m wondering does anyone else agree that their arguments for immigration seem to be getting desperate.

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    What do Brooks, Kristol, and Rubin have in common?

    (Or has the war on noticing things spread to this site?)
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    I hope they're desperate, but I sense just the showing of their true colors at the beginning of a war. They want the extinction of people who stand in their way. (An American Holocaust, imagine that!) They had that within their grasp. Now they are going to have to fight for it.

    They have the globalist, corporatist state behind them, and they have only begun to wake up.

    Rather than "desperate," my term for them is "arrogant a**holes." Kristol, for example, makes me wonder if he is even self-aware and not just a non-sentient animal.

    , @Dr. X

    Reading this and the recent comments made by Brooks and Kristol
     
    Oddly enough, between Books, Kristol, and Rubin, there seems to be a significant correlation between membership in a certain Tribe and ripping on the white American working class within the past week...
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  30. Jennifer Rubin is one of the most physically and intellectually repulsive beings of all time. Many people feel bad for her husband because of this.

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    Jennifer Rubin is one of the most physically and intellectually repulsive beings of all time. Many people feel bad for her husband because of this.
     
    Keepin' it classy, I can see...
    , @SFG
    Jewish women were never known for their attractiveness...why do you think there's so much intermarriage?

    (Seriously, I think her ideas are bad enough for the country, and they really should find someone else to do 'right turn'...she's on the left under the new battle lines.)
    , @Stan
    It is the revolt of the uglies, inbreeding produces a disproportionately ugly race.
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  31. Barnard says:
    @Mr. Blank
    This reminds me of this piece from last year in National Review. I believe this is the article which finally caused me to stop reading them:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433424/american-economy-how-revitalize-it

    Get a load of this quote in particular: "Do American parents really aspire to have their children sitting at a sewing machine making shirts? Or do they want their children to become doctors, computer programmers, or technology specialists — good jobs with good futures."

    I think that pretty much sums up their incredibly shallow worldview. Essentially, they think all these white losers out in the hinterlands just need to move to Silicon Valley and become software engineers. That way, they can all live in nice houses and have little brown people do their housework, too. Why are those red-staters so gosh-darn stubborn? Why can't they follow this obvious and natural career path?

    Apparently, that really is their half-assed solution to immigration. I used to joke about how that was their solution, but over the past year or so, it's become clear to me that, no, it's not a joke, that REALLY IS the solution, and they really think it will work.

    Glenn Reynolds is right: We really do have an exceptionally bad governing class.

    National Review’s writers really buy into what I would call the education is magic theory. You can take anyone from any background or intelligence level and with the right schools and training turn that person into a doctor or engineer. They seem to understand this doesn’t hold true for other areas like music or athletic ability, it only works in education.

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    Thomas Frank (sorry if anybody's triggered by that name) has a few excellent chapters on this subject in his new book. Whether any other liberals will get red pilled on the subject, I'm not optimistic.
    , @dr kill
    The really interesting aspect of your magic of education theory is that it does hold true for the children of all the people the NR writers know; i.e. even if their kids are dumb as rocks the breeding gets them placed for employment.

    I believe the fools at NR actually don't know any real people, guys cutting a swath from the bottom up on their own.

    This is actually why I am somewhat sympathetic to affirmative action. It takes extraordinary skill and perseverance to push these guys and their selfish spawn aside. Who wouldn't want a safety net like that?

    Good point about no longer reading NR, that is a longish list these days.
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  32. SFG says:

    You can shut down immigration and still encourage internal migration. I’d actually favor it as we are going to need fewer and fewer people as automation advances.

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    You can shut down immigration and still encourage internal migration. I’d actually favor it as we are going to need fewer and fewer people as automation advances.
     
    What do you think we have been doing for over 200 years? We have had non-stop internal migration regardless of immigration levels. Recall the phrase, "Go West Young Man".
    , @Mr. Blank
    Agreed. But Rubin and others seem to think internal migration and unlimited immigration are complementary policies. As Steve points out, unlimited immigration can actually make internal migration more difficult.
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  33. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Articles flogging “White America’s” death/decline/recent illness/case of the sniffles aren’t about what they claim to be about. The purpose of such publishings isn’t to investigate or analyze anything, just to gather up a “Hail ants” project for the sniveling Trotskycons and amnestycons writing & reading the verbiage as a way of (not very credibly) dissociating themselves from said whiteness, once the heavy Shiite starts going down; if all you have is a gabbing gift, best to advertise that fact beforehand. These folks live in far greater acute fear of rolling NAM insurrection than any alt-right bowl-haircutted IT administrator blaring Tay Swift from his Bluetooth speaker could muster on Cinco De Mayo. Also, insulation from reality seems to be a hazard of steady tithing to the meritocracy religion.

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    I always wondered about that. Do they really think the NAM mob breaking down the doors is going to spare them because Jews are liberal? "I'm not white, I'm Jewish!" Remember what happened in NYC as blacks took over formerly-Jewish neighborhoods? Freddie's Fashion Mart comes to min, but there are countless other examples. (Stuff like that is the reason my mom was actually sympathetic to Afrikaners after the fall...)
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  34. Er, Marion, Indiana has been losing population since 1970, so I guess they agree with Rubin. I’m surprised that people here are so opposed to the wholesome wisdom of middle America.

    BTW in 1970 Mao was still the Great Helmsman, so the population reduction had nothing to do with outsourcing to China.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion,_Indiana

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    Population decline in the Midwest mostly has to do with farming consolidation in the 70s and 80s. Until then, there were still lots of family farms.
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  35. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey.

    Rather, it is a bet there is a generous social safety net. That is why so many immigrants seem to turn up their noses at Southern and Eastern European nations as they attempt to cast their vote of confidence with the the generous nations of the North.

    Similarly the recent hysteria of certain US immigrants/refugees over Trump has turned into a voting landslide in favor of Canada over Mexico, even though the latter has a larger GDP.

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  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @SFG
    You can shut down immigration and still encourage internal migration. I'd actually favor it as we are going to need fewer and fewer people as automation advances.

    You can shut down immigration and still encourage internal migration. I’d actually favor it as we are going to need fewer and fewer people as automation advances.

    What do you think we have been doing for over 200 years? We have had non-stop internal migration regardless of immigration levels. Recall the phrase, “Go West Young Man”.

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    True, but a lot of people do seem to get stuck in decaying industrial towns.
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    Er, Marion, Indiana has been losing population since 1970, so I guess they agree with Rubin. I'm surprised that people here are so opposed to the wholesome wisdom of middle America.

    BTW in 1970 Mao was still the Great Helmsman, so the population reduction had nothing to do with outsourcing to China.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion,_Indiana

    Population decline in the Midwest mostly has to do with farming consolidation in the 70s and 80s. Until then, there were still lots of family farms.

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    Deindustrialization/population loss began in earnest during the 1970s, spurred on by various causes like the Japanese competition, environmentalism, and the gradual relocation of the military-industrial complex to Southern states (a far longer trend).

    You can see the roots of the decline start in the late 50s, with the collapse of Studebaker and the migration of the auto industry from the city of Detroit out to the suburbs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

    An extreme example, but part of a trend. Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today's China. Some of the out-migration is related.
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  38. Then again, for Ms. Rubin, this is all an academic exercise, isn’t it. I mean, it’s not the future of her people that’s on line.

    If she’s wrong, it’s a bit like a mouse or frog dying in the lab. Not great, but nothing that affects her people.

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  39. @Rob McX
    Reading this and the recent comments made by Brooks and Kristol, I'm wondering does anyone else agree that their arguments for immigration seem to be getting desperate.

    What do Brooks, Kristol, and Rubin have in common?

    (Or has the war on noticing things spread to this site?)

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  40. Luke Lea says:

    Down with the Rubins and Brooks of this world! May they live in infamy. Nigel Farage got it right at CPAC today:

    https://goo.gl/4sEF0V

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  41. JohnnyD says:

    Nice to see that Jennifer Rubin took a break from warmongering to tell Americans what she really thinks of them…

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  42. Mr. Blank says:
    @SFG
    You can shut down immigration and still encourage internal migration. I'd actually favor it as we are going to need fewer and fewer people as automation advances.

    Agreed. But Rubin and others seem to think internal migration and unlimited immigration are complementary policies. As Steve points out, unlimited immigration can actually make internal migration more difficult.

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  43. @Rob McX
    Reading this and the recent comments made by Brooks and Kristol, I'm wondering does anyone else agree that their arguments for immigration seem to be getting desperate.

    I hope they’re desperate, but I sense just the showing of their true colors at the beginning of a war. They want the extinction of people who stand in their way. (An American Holocaust, imagine that!) They had that within their grasp. Now they are going to have to fight for it.

    They have the globalist, corporatist state behind them, and they have only begun to wake up.

    Rather than “desperate,” my term for them is “arrogant a**holes.” Kristol, for example, makes me wonder if he is even self-aware and not just a non-sentient animal.

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  44. “Trump’s message is aimed at Americans who are resentful, feel left behind and are both physically and culturally marginalized.”

    Huh? If I want to “physically marginalize” you, what do I have to do to you?

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    I think she's saying they live in the middle of nowhere. The majority of the country's land being of course "marginal" compared to the tiny blue archipelago
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  45. @Mr. Blank
    Boy, they're not doing themselves any favors here...

    Might be a good time to get into the bakery business with all this cake our betters would have us eat.

    That or the guillotine business.

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    Maybe the same sex wedding cake business.
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  46. Pat Casey says:

    Speaking of phrases that colonize our mind, no one ever seems to mention that the dogma about America being a Nation of Immigrants offends the history of the immigrants who came here as slaves. Our man of letters over at the Atlantic should mount the argument to have that shibboleth retired for the sake of not obscuring this country’s original sin, not allowing one more way white people can contrive to make black bodies invisible. He could have us discover the profound ways black people are alienated when they hear that America is a Nation of Immigrants. Could that be why they called the film The Birth of a Nation?

    Anyways that’s one more wedge to be levered against the coalition of the fringes.

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    Blacks will have plenty of time to fight browns and yellows after whites are out of the way. In the meantime, they have bigger fish to fry.
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  47. Some people sure love the word “vibrant” don’t they.

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    Iceland looked pretty vibrant last summer but I doubt this is what Jennifer Rubin has in mind. In fact, I'd say this is the exact opposite of what she has in mind:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mav2kkvakGY

    Top comment:
    "So this is what happens when we jail all the bankers ... Looks like fun ..."
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  48. Marina says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Meanwhile here in Connecticut, we had an Amber Alert today when a previously-deported El Salvadorian man abducted his six-year-old daughter after stabbing her mother to death.

    This happens a day after our glorious governor went of TV last night and claimed he instructed our state police not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities to save money (which is a political lie, of course). This bastard Governor Dannel Malloy has made us a sanctuary state, and now Trump's luck brings us a stabbing murder and kidnapping by one of our precious illegal aliens (future Democrat voter).

    Will this story get any national attention?

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/CT-Amber-Alert-Issued-for-6-Year-Old-Girl-After-Bridgeport-Stabbing-414693153.html

    Great. We’re planning to move back there.

    So my husband and I relocated to NYC for his career. We’ve been here about five years. For his career? It’s been amazing. But now that we have kids the nice stuff about urban living is being outweighed by the realities of urban living far from family and without a car.

    I’m in late pregnancy and I can’t just drop my toddler off with my mother for a few hours so I can rest. Actually, getting childcare for the birth of this next child is a huge hassle that it wouldn’t be in my hometown. Grocery shopping on foot for a family, with a toddler is a miserable chore, especially if you want to use an economical option like Costco. We’re managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom. Carrying laundry downstairs to the laundry room while corraling a one year old is an exercise in frustration, but he can’t be left alone in the apartment for ten minutes, etc.

    Forget city living. I want my small town, my community where I know everyone, and a minivan and some space.

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    The minivan suburban lifestyle is a lot easier, especially with a second child. The best version is dad takes the train to the city, although it is expensive to live near a train station.
    , @Jimi
    Living near parents or in-laws is a great idea for young couples with children.
    , @Dr. X

    We’re managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom.
     
    You're in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this -- 1897?
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  50. Trelane says:

    In the article above, words meant to signify “white” include: resentful, left behind, dying, native-born, rust-belt.

    Words meant to indicate “not white” include: vibrant, newcomers, foreigners, urban, immigrant(s), diversity. The words “cosmopolitan” and “metropolitan” I think mean “Jewish”.

    Using ‘search and replace’ in your word processor with the above substitutions gives a clearer rendering of what the article it really is trying to say.

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  51. @Marina
    Great. We're planning to move back there.

    So my husband and I relocated to NYC for his career. We've been here about five years. For his career? It's been amazing. But now that we have kids the nice stuff about urban living is being outweighed by the realities of urban living far from family and without a car.

    I'm in late pregnancy and I can't just drop my toddler off with my mother for a few hours so I can rest. Actually, getting childcare for the birth of this next child is a huge hassle that it wouldn't be in my hometown. Grocery shopping on foot for a family, with a toddler is a miserable chore, especially if you want to use an economical option like Costco. We're managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom. Carrying laundry downstairs to the laundry room while corraling a one year old is an exercise in frustration, but he can't be left alone in the apartment for ten minutes, etc.

    Forget city living. I want my small town, my community where I know everyone, and a minivan and some space.

    The minivan suburban lifestyle is a lot easier, especially with a second child. The best version is dad takes the train to the city, although it is expensive to live near a train station.

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    President Trump's golf club in New Jersey is near the end of the railroad line that goes to New York City. About 50 miles west into New Jersey. President Trump's golf club used to be a fox hunting club.

    Car wheels on a gravel road ain't just a song from Lucinda Williams. Old money in New Jersey likes gravel roads.

    Paul Gigot, editorial page editor of the Wall Street Journal, irritates me more than David Brooks or Jennifer Rubin, and Gigot ain't no Jew. I must say, though, in defense of Gigot, he did publish an immigration skeptical opinion article in the Wall Street Journal from two Swedish political leaders.
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  52. Dr. X says:
    @Rob McX
    Reading this and the recent comments made by Brooks and Kristol, I'm wondering does anyone else agree that their arguments for immigration seem to be getting desperate.

    Reading this and the recent comments made by Brooks and Kristol

    Oddly enough, between Books, Kristol, and Rubin, there seems to be a significant correlation between membership in a certain Tribe and ripping on the white American working class within the past week…

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    The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics aren't much different in regards to mass immigration.

    On a day-to-day basis, it probably matters more than some bicoastal Jewish writers whose names are likely unfamiliar to 90% of the electorate.
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  53. Marina says:

    My mother’s sewing kept my brother and me fed, housed and clothed for a good chunk of my childhood when my dad was having a hard time getting work. I don’t think her particular business model would work today, given the deluge of cheap imported garments. My parents both have college degrees and my dad worked in high status jobs and I’m damn glad sewing was there as a fallback. In fact, I hire an actual pre 1965 American to do my tailoring. (Between weight loss and being short there’s a lot of it.) She’s a stay at home mother and seems really happy to have the extra income. The alternative for my mother and my tailor wasn’t a programming job, at least not in the near term. It was no job.

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    Some people sure love the word "vibrant" don't they.

    Iceland looked pretty vibrant last summer but I doubt this is what Jennifer Rubin has in mind. In fact, I’d say this is the exact opposite of what she has in mind:

    Top comment:
    “So this is what happens when we jail all the bankers … Looks like fun …”

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  55. Jimi says:
    @Marina
    Great. We're planning to move back there.

    So my husband and I relocated to NYC for his career. We've been here about five years. For his career? It's been amazing. But now that we have kids the nice stuff about urban living is being outweighed by the realities of urban living far from family and without a car.

    I'm in late pregnancy and I can't just drop my toddler off with my mother for a few hours so I can rest. Actually, getting childcare for the birth of this next child is a huge hassle that it wouldn't be in my hometown. Grocery shopping on foot for a family, with a toddler is a miserable chore, especially if you want to use an economical option like Costco. We're managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom. Carrying laundry downstairs to the laundry room while corraling a one year old is an exercise in frustration, but he can't be left alone in the apartment for ten minutes, etc.

    Forget city living. I want my small town, my community where I know everyone, and a minivan and some space.

    Living near parents or in-laws is a great idea for young couples with children.

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    I'm hoping to get a job on the east coast so we can abandon coastal Northern California to its fate and be near the grandparents.
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  56. Dr. X says:
    @Marina
    Great. We're planning to move back there.

    So my husband and I relocated to NYC for his career. We've been here about five years. For his career? It's been amazing. But now that we have kids the nice stuff about urban living is being outweighed by the realities of urban living far from family and without a car.

    I'm in late pregnancy and I can't just drop my toddler off with my mother for a few hours so I can rest. Actually, getting childcare for the birth of this next child is a huge hassle that it wouldn't be in my hometown. Grocery shopping on foot for a family, with a toddler is a miserable chore, especially if you want to use an economical option like Costco. We're managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom. Carrying laundry downstairs to the laundry room while corraling a one year old is an exercise in frustration, but he can't be left alone in the apartment for ten minutes, etc.

    Forget city living. I want my small town, my community where I know everyone, and a minivan and some space.

    We’re managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom.

    You’re in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this — 1897?

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    It's a two bedroom apartment. My husband has a bunch of expensive and toddler unfriendly work equipment, so that, plus storage, take up the second 10x10 bedroom. The larger bedroom has a king bed for us, a twin for the toddler and is soon to get a crib for the impending arrival. It's better than the alternatives (expensive equipment in the toddler accessible living room, toddler sleeping in the living room, etc.) I wouldn't want to do it with middle school children, but it's fine right now. And keeping all the clothes in one room makes putting away laundry very efficient. If we were living here longer we'd wall off the dining area and convert it to a third bedroom and reshuffle.
    , @PiltdownMan

    You’re in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this — 1897
     


    No, it's 2017.

    Sorry, couldn't resist...
    , @Mr. Anon

    You’re in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this — 1897?
     
    I hope that she doesn't work in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory.
    , @Forbes

    What is this — 1897?
     
    No. I'm pretty certain they've got running hot water.
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  57. @newrouter

    In sum, rather than leave Americans in Rust Belt isolation, with a shriveled job market, it makes sense to encourage and assist them to move to productive areas of the country, which in many cases means a more urban environment.
     
    Writing from near Pittsburgh: I find pundits who use "Rust Belt" nearly 40 years after Big Steel's collapse "bubble" ignorant. There may be a few derelict manufacturing facility here and there but for the most part all the old manufacturing facilities have been scrapped. For example on the southside of Pittsburgh the former LTV Steel mill is now a mixed use area of shops and housing. The only thing remaining of LTV site is the tunnel that Pgh & Lake Erie RR built now used by CSX RR. The LTV site across the Monogahela is now used by Uber and CMU. Same with USS Homestead works of strike notoriety. The whole site is mixed use commercial, residential recreational.(US Steel has an office there).

    Since Big Steel's collapse, there hasn't a big boom in any area of industry but there hasn't been any collapse either. We have fracking, Uber/Google/CMU, healthcare, steel (it is memorable to cross the Geo Westinghouse bridge on certain mornings and see the steam emanating from USX Edgar Thomson plant.).

    Mostly what clowns like Rubin don't want to understand is that the idiot regulations put out by the federal gov't during the last 8 years are the problem. I used to do air pollution monitoring maintenance at 2 local power plants that burned coal. One has been shut down and the other has been forced to install a scrubber. For what gain? The air isn't much cleaner(2010-2017) but jobs are gone. The administrative state has crashed into the wall of" diminishing returns".
    So. I'm happy that Pres. Trump is taking on the regulatory state. Give 'em hell Donald.

    ” Same with USS Homestead works of strike notoriety.”

    I went there a few years ago. Not too much left to see.

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    Yea the smoke stacks and a big piece of equipment. Some of the steel for the Empire State building too.
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  58. Dr. X says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Meanwhile here in Connecticut, we had an Amber Alert today when a previously-deported El Salvadorian man abducted his six-year-old daughter after stabbing her mother to death.

    This happens a day after our glorious governor went of TV last night and claimed he instructed our state police not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities to save money (which is a political lie, of course). This bastard Governor Dannel Malloy has made us a sanctuary state, and now Trump's luck brings us a stabbing murder and kidnapping by one of our precious illegal aliens (future Democrat voter).

    Will this story get any national attention?

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/CT-Amber-Alert-Issued-for-6-Year-Old-Girl-After-Bridgeport-Stabbing-414693153.html

    Will this story get any national attention?

    Probably not any more than this story, about an illegal alien who fatally injured a Christian pastor’s 14-year old daughter in a DUI crash while they were getting a Christmas Tree on Christmas Eve…

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2017/02/14/man-gets-6-18-years-crash-killed-pastors-teen-daughter/97895052/

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  59. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    And, moreover, the presence of vibrant cities not just on the coasts but also in the heartland suggests Trump’s base would greatly benefit by moving from dead and dying Rust Belt towns to more economically vibrant places.

    NPR tells us that those dying white towns need Latino and Somali immigrants to save them, so they don’t even have to move to experience vibrancy:

    http://www.npr.org/2017/02/18/515849383/a-tale-of-two-kansas-towns-one-thrives-as-another-struggles

    http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/516016940/a-thriving-rural-towns-winning-formula-faces-new-threats-under-trump-administrat

    It became necessary to replace the town to save it.

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    I cannot even listen to NPR anymore because of the incessant flogging for immigration-refugees-migrants-dreamers-blech. You have to wonder what the vetting process is for working there because the end product is so uniform. Show after show and it is the exact same thing.

    It would behoove the right if they built their own public radio / television network similar to how the left has Pacifica radio. First of all, by making it not for profit it would immediately take it out of the potential control of corporations and the neo-cons which would give it a free hand to cover un-PC issues. It would help incubate potential allies who have legitimate needs but can never get political representation, the two biggest being whites and men. By forcing the alt-right into the mass airwaves, it would make it impossible for the entire rest of the society to ignore the ugly parts of things such as immigration, black and brown dysfunction, reverse discrimination, and hypergamy. Right now, people don't have to notice. It would be like one huge Milo trolling on a national scale.
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  60. Tulip says:

    Will there be a day of reckoning? Why do I have to hear about David Brooks?

    Can we make a deal with the progressives to keep all the illegals and give them amnesty, provided we get to denationalize our pundit class and academia and send them to the country of their choice?

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  61. eah says:

    dying white America

    At least they’re not saying ‘dying cisgendered white America’ (not yet anyway) — show some gratitude.

    An animal gets put on the endangered species list and they try to save it — but not a ‘dying white America’ — it’s just seen as a potential organ civilization donor — there’s no saving it — it’s not worth the effort.

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  62. “You know, when I was at Rice U. in Houston from 1976-1980, the city was a magnet for Americans looking for work. Now it’s a magnet for foreigners.”

    Similar to the way European immigrants drove out working class wasps from New York City. That led to the working class wasps not being able to take advantage of the cultural infrastructure built up by wealthy wasps, whereas the immigrants were able to.

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    Archie Bunker was a WASP, according to Norman Lear. When the family was planning Gloria and Mike's wedding, Archie didn't "want a Catholic priest sprinkling incest all over the people." Years later, as part of Archie Bunker's Place, it was revealed that his Protestant pastor had a German sounding surname. This was in relation to his discussing with a Catholic priest his concern that Edith might be considering conversion to Catholicism. He told the priest that the Protestant pastor had "made more Catholics out of Protestants than you ever could, Father."

    "That led to the working class wasps not being able to take advantage of the cultural infrastructure built up by wealthy wasps, whereas the immigrants were able to."

    Yea, including those Irish who are interested in something more cultural than the racing form. There are a few of us.

    Cities where working class WASPS continued to have a presence: Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, LA, St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, and, to a lesser extent, Chicago. Might be a few museums endowed by rich WASPS in those, don't you think ?
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  63. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Gee, I wonder what Kristol, Brooks, and Rubin could have in common.

    But is there anything in Gen. Kelly, safety, The Wall, safety, bad guys, bad hombres, safety, criminals, safety, DREAMer waffling, past waffling on H-1Bs, and the squandering of political capital on useless EO's that suggests that Trump is serious about restricting immigration in the name of anything other than preventing crime and terrorism?

    They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.

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    You're forgetting the great Stephen Miller, but nonetheless Kristol, et al., seem to have as much instinctive feeling for dying white America's fortunes as you might have for the waxings and wanings of the tribes of some far flung corner of the globe -- if not some kind of resentment. Because what they advocate seems designed to finish off one dying tribe while leaving their own untouched, coordinating all this diversity from the top, under cover of rigorously enforced social taboos that would prevent you from noticing the setup.
    , @Cicatrizatic
    While there are obviously some Jewish intellectuals that favor immigration restriction, on net, they are disproportionately in favor of open borders by a large margin.
    , @ben tillman

    They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.
     
    I have no idea who Horowitz i, but Stephen Steinlight is indistinguishable from Brooks and Rubin. He thinks white immigration restrictionists are "vile", and he explicitly admits that his opposition to immigration is based on the only permissible justification: He thinks it's good for the Jews.
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  64. Waydaminit.

    Steve chooses to live in LA, not Marion IN. But why?

    And if I went up and down the list of Unz.com contributors, including Unz, which would be greater, the number living in US Metros or US small towns? Given what they write you would assume the latter.

    Of course you would be wrong.

    Yes, US metros are terrible. And such small portions, too.

    At least Rubin is honest about her feelings.

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    Living in a major metro area (Chicago for me) is not the same as condemning those who live elsewhere.
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  65. @Jimi
    Living near parents or in-laws is a great idea for young couples with children.

    I’m hoping to get a job on the east coast so we can abandon coastal Northern California to its fate and be near the grandparents.

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  66. Marina says:
    @Dr. X

    We’re managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom.
     
    You're in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this -- 1897?

    It’s a two bedroom apartment. My husband has a bunch of expensive and toddler unfriendly work equipment, so that, plus storage, take up the second 10×10 bedroom. The larger bedroom has a king bed for us, a twin for the toddler and is soon to get a crib for the impending arrival. It’s better than the alternatives (expensive equipment in the toddler accessible living room, toddler sleeping in the living room, etc.) I wouldn’t want to do it with middle school children, but it’s fine right now. And keeping all the clothes in one room makes putting away laundry very efficient. If we were living here longer we’d wall off the dining area and convert it to a third bedroom and reshuffle.

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    There are 5 of us in an 800 square foot 2 br on the upper east side. Three kids, age 7, 2 and 9 months. My Latvian mother in law comes in from Queens every weekday to tend the little ones. I pay the maintenance on her apartment out in Queens. Eventually we will sell that apartment and use it for a down payment for a suburban place. We are holding back because my wife doesn't want to live with her mother.

    The kids have their br and the baby is in a portacrib in our be. But the sleeping arrangements are loose. My daughter, almost 8, considers it a treat to sleep on the foldout in the living room.

    I grew up with 4 siblings in a huge suburban house. With a big yard next to an open field. And I walked to school starting in first grade. I don't think my parents ever knew where the hell we were.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    If you wall off anything to create a third bedroom in that 1000 sq. ft. apt of yours, the landlord WILL jack up the rent. Get it in writing that it won't constitute improvement to the structure, thus avoiding additional levy for the cramped living space. Good luck!
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  67. Alfa158 says:
    @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    (((David Brooks))). (((Jennifer Rubin))). Every. Damn. Time.

    It is really getting monotonous, but in the long run it may work out be for the best that they feel they no longer have to hide or pretend anymore. When even the Nazis decided they were going to commit genocide, they carried out the program on the QT rather than openly boasting about it.

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  68. donut says:

    You know fellas I think that the root cause of our problems is not the Jew but rather the Beecher family : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ward_Beecher .

    The root of every progressive lie , the original anti-white movement and the CNN of their day . Well , you know me right ? Right Wing , Neo- Nazi crackpot . So tell me what do you think ?

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    Quite right. Internet warriors who blame every socially corrosive idea on the Jews should have a close look at all those 19th century Protestant pains in the ass.
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  69. Ivy says:
    @pyrrhus
    Here's a match made in heaven: Jennifer Rubin and Bill Kristol...ceremonies will be in Jerusalem..

    Many people would chip in to help Rubin and Kristol leave the USA permanently!

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  70. @Achilles
    Interestingly, one is beginning to see a small split in the NeverTrump coalition that has been playing out in the contrived and semantic debate over "nationalism" vs "patriotism."

    The Jewish Neocons are the most hardline and absolutist about mass Third World immigration and take the position, often with little subtlety, that an affection for and bias in favor of the American nation-state is Nazi-ism and anyone who resists the large-scale dilution and de facto ethnic cleansing of natural born Americans with immigrants from Third World cultures is at least bordering on being a Nazi if not one outright.

    At National Review this has been the position of Jonah Goldberg, who approves of American "patriotism" as defined by him as being an attachment to certain universalist propositions extracted from the founding documents of the Federal government, but who disapproves of American "nationalism," again as he defines it, and denies the legitimacy of notions like an American "people" or an American "nation." David Brooks, Jennifer Rubin and numerous other Jewish Neocons are also in this camp. That these universalist propositions they claim to be so fond of were the product of the cultural history of a particular people is a point they try to ignore.

    Now recently we have been seeing Rich Lowry and Ramesh Ponnuru starting to slowly back away from the Goldberg position, which position frankly can be described not unfairly as anti-Americanism. The former see the existence of a benign strain of nationalism in America which is healthy and not problematic for the body politic.

    National Review's Victor Davis Hanson distanced himself from the Goldberg position some time ago, ever since it became clear that Trump was likely to win the Republican nomination. For a long time before that Hanson has written books and articles about the many problems in California caused by unrestricted immigration.

    Another interesting data point was Charles Murray making a U-turn recently and conceding that maybe the citizens of a nation do indeed owe something to each other over and above what they owe to others in the world, and coming out for a pause in low-skilled immigration in order to benefit the American working class.

    The obligations Murray was referring to is nothing other than American self-government, and in fact I suggest that this is what the hardline Jewish Neocons are against. Self-government is when the people of a community, such as a nation-state, control the machinery of government in order to secure what is explicitly considered to be their own self-interest. When other interests, such as internationalist Marxists or globalist business interests, manage to coopt the machinery of government to serve their own interests, self-government is thwarted.

    More people may be beginning to recognize, if not willing to say out loud, that there is an ethnic dynamic at work with the Jewish part of the Neocons. They will never give up this position no matter how dangerous and damaging to the American people because it is bound up in their own blinkered identity and self-conception and neuroses and particlar history in Eastern Europe.

    Well said.

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  71. @Jake
    Of course Neocons are doubling down. They have thus far gotten away with everything they've done, no matter the destruction they have caused.

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.

    I think of the “conservative” jews as the jews who drew the short straws at the meeting.

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    It's not that simple. A lot of them wanted to rebel back in the 70s and 80s and now are returning to the left. We may see Jonah Goldberg writing for the Atlantic yet.

    Now they're being replaced by Orthodox and Stephen Miller-ish types with weak Jewish identities who see themselves as more white than anything else. Trump did worse than Romney and Bush in '04, but better than Bush in '00 and McCain.

    The difference with blacks, who usually split 90-10, is that Jews make enough money that lower taxes are actually attractive, so there's always a conservative minority that wants to pay fewer taxes and isn't particularly worried about saving the NAMs or the trees.
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  72. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave Pinsen
    They're Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.

    You’re forgetting the great Stephen Miller, but nonetheless Kristol, et al., seem to have as much instinctive feeling for dying white America’s fortunes as you might have for the waxings and wanings of the tribes of some far flung corner of the globe — if not some kind of resentment. Because what they advocate seems designed to finish off one dying tribe while leaving their own untouched, coordinating all this diversity from the top, under cover of rigorously enforced social taboos that would prevent you from noticing the setup.

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  73. WR says:
    @Drake

    Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey.
     
    Every homeless person who moves into your house is a vote of confidence, a bet that there is economic prosperity available to them at the end of their journey.

    A sensible argument for open front doors.

    A sensible argument indeed. How could anybody disagree with it? One immigrant = one vote of confidence. Since by definition America is a country of immigrants, any of the roughly 300 million current inhabitants of this country is an immigrant (whether they know it or not). Thus, we only need to let in three billion NEW immigrants if we want to experience a tenfold increase in confidence. Which, needless to say, would be awesome. Thanks (((Rubin))) for sharing with us your discovery of this scientific law!

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  74. newrouter says:
    @Steve Sailer
    " Same with USS Homestead works of strike notoriety."

    I went there a few years ago. Not too much left to see.

    Yea the smoke stacks and a big piece of equipment. Some of the steel for the Empire State building too.

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  75. @Dave Pinsen
    They're Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.

    While there are obviously some Jewish intellectuals that favor immigration restriction, on net, they are disproportionately in favor of open borders by a large margin.

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    While there are obviously some Jewish intellectuals that favor immigration restriction, on net, they are disproportionately in favor of open borders by a large margin.
     
    Unfortunately all too true.

    In respect of numbers, the large majority of Jews in America are indisputably liberals.

    Beyond liberals, hard-left Jews far outnumber neoconservative Jews.

    And then fourthly we have conservative Jews who identify with, and are not alienated from, their white gentile friends and neighbors and who have no difficulty viewing themselves as a part of an American people or an American nation.

    I would argue that in this fourth category we have the best of the Jews, like Stephen Miller and David Horowitz. And we have a few foreign friends like Netanyahu. I have been glad to know a number of U.S. military officers in this category. Unfortunately, in recent history this has been the smallest group and with the least influence. We have had Jews within this fourth category going all the way back to colonial days, but they often tended to freely intermarry with non-Jewish Americans and then sort of vanish into the pool of generic Americans.

    One conclusion I have reached about neocon Jews is that their irrational, usually latent, hostility to white gentile Americans derives from an unwillingness to disturb comfortable psychological crutches not well-grounded in reality that they habitually rest on in order to maintain a sense of moral superiority.

    One reason I admire David Horowitz is that once he had his second thoughts, far from backsliding, he rather forged fearlessly ahead and turned his penetrating gaze on his own roots and background with unflinching honesty. Unflinching, but not unsentimental or unaffectionate.
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  76. donut says:

    Steve “The WaPo has I,m not sure how many followers , the WSJ 1/4 of a million . PewDiePie is approaching 54 million . 54 MILLION ! How much more evidence do we need ? The only thing that makes the NYT , WaPo , Cnn et al relevant is your attention and comments on the consistency
    of their stool .

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    Or if you prefer the "mitti Merckle" version :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICIaQCVRek
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  77. donut says:
    @donut
    Steve "The WaPo has I,m not sure how many followers , the WSJ 1/4 of a million . PewDiePie is approaching 54 million . 54 MILLION ! How much more evidence do we need ? The only thing that makes the NYT , WaPo , Cnn et al relevant is your attention and comments on the consistency
    of their stool .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S69I-YOWOU

    Or if you prefer the “mitti Merckle” version :

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    Trump should play this in her honor when Chancellor Merkel comes to call.
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  78. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    (((David Brooks))). (((Jennifer Rubin))). Every. Damn. Time.

    (((Stephen Miller))), (((Jared Kushner))), (((Ron Unz))), (((Ivanka))), (((Binyamin Netanyahu))).

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    Only the first of those is known to have commented that the US should retain a semblance of its traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    While the latter may not be Schumers or Raabs, they're no Samuel Gompers, yet.
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  79. OT:

    The St. Petersburg general strike, which kicked off the Russian revolution, began 100 years ago today.

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  80. @Dr. X

    We’re managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom.
     
    You're in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this -- 1897?

    You’re in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this — 1897

    No, it’s 2017.

    Sorry, couldn’t resist…

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    It's the current year!
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  81. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Coemgen
    White America is dying from all the knives being jabbed into it - neocon elites having reserved White America's back as their place to thrust their blades.

    As pointed out in another post:

    It’s almost as if rich people and rich organizations have more power to influence which phrases colonize our minds.

    Their use of “dying white America” trades on our ability to entertain the concept of dying without identifying a killer.

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  82. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Essentially, they think all these white losers out in the hinterlands just need to move to Silicon Valley and become software engineers.”

    Uhm, the government is suing Oracle for discrimination because something like 70% to 80% of their software engineering workforce is Indian, aren’t they? Just maybe those losers are smart enough to see that?

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  83. I was a part of the (as we called it) the Great Yankee Migration to Houston. Vibrant does not begin to describe it. I have never lived or worked anywhere since that was so dynamically alive. Everyone who coule be any way persuaded to work was working. Don’t like this job? quit, walk across the street, and get hired (immediate start) at the same or higher pay. The green vans of the INS still stormed worksites, with illegals literally running away as the loose dragnet came down. Carpenters from Redford Twp. MI could bring their tools and make a decent living, buy a house similar to the one they left in Michigan, and begin to build. Unfettered immigration changed that. I sensed it myself, 35 and more years ago.

    Traveling on holiday through south and west Texas, I remarked to my Yankee bretheren that it seemed to me that a border line no longer existed. Rather there was a sort of a DMZ, where Mexican immigrants were allowed to pass through, and only given cursory (if that) attention. I thought then that the good times for hard working white boys were just about over. I was not mistaken.

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  84. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.”

    But whose views are more common among Jews? It’s a relevant point.

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    “They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.”

    But whose views are more common among Jews? It’s a relevant point.
     
    The question is, which view has the support of the organized Jewish community and its vast resources?
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  85. So Jennifer Rubin is a Steve Sailer reader, too.

    Very interesting..

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  86. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Rubin can join this:

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  87. @Anonymous

    And, moreover, the presence of vibrant cities not just on the coasts but also in the heartland suggests Trump’s base would greatly benefit by moving from dead and dying Rust Belt towns to more economically vibrant places.
     
    NPR tells us that those dying white towns need Latino and Somali immigrants to save them, so they don't even have to move to experience vibrancy:

    http://www.npr.org/2017/02/18/515849383/a-tale-of-two-kansas-towns-one-thrives-as-another-struggles

    http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/516016940/a-thriving-rural-towns-winning-formula-faces-new-threats-under-trump-administrat


    It became necessary to replace the town to save it.

    I cannot even listen to NPR anymore because of the incessant flogging for immigration-refugees-migrants-dreamers-blech. You have to wonder what the vetting process is for working there because the end product is so uniform. Show after show and it is the exact same thing.

    It would behoove the right if they built their own public radio / television network similar to how the left has Pacifica radio. First of all, by making it not for profit it would immediately take it out of the potential control of corporations and the neo-cons which would give it a free hand to cover un-PC issues. It would help incubate potential allies who have legitimate needs but can never get political representation, the two biggest being whites and men. By forcing the alt-right into the mass airwaves, it would make it impossible for the entire rest of the society to ignore the ugly parts of things such as immigration, black and brown dysfunction, reverse discrimination, and hypergamy. Right now, people don’t have to notice. It would be like one huge Milo trolling on a national scale.

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    Breitbart will probably be the one to make it happen. The owner of BB is a multi-billionaire and apparently doesn't give a rats ass about the Left and he doesn't have to beg for money like many others do on the alt-right.
    , @Hibernian
    Such a network would be a prime target for a Lois Lerner type if the Dems, in anything like their current form, got back into power.
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  88. @pyrrhus
    Here's a match made in heaven: Jennifer Rubin and Bill Kristol...ceremonies will be in Jerusalem..

    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks’ junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]

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    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” Snyder, 23 years Brooks’ junior, is a devout Christian.

    So the thought process is - marry and procreate with the goyim, send your mischlinge children off to fight for the IDF, while propagandize against your grandkids. Then divorce the first wife you had and marry your research assistant while writing a book hilariously called "The Road to Character." (lol - I'm guessing he must have found that road and started down the other way.).

    I wonder how much of the massive Jewish out-marriage has been caused by "The Jazz Singer" with Neil Diamond. Maybe not much. But I had thought that all of it was just a matter of unintended consequences of getting high on your own supply - Jewish kids soaking up and internalizing propaganda meant for others. So I was surprised when I chanced on this surfing youtube the other night:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IEDLZayfdU
    , @Anon

    David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.”
     
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Yeah I remember his whole "character" phase from a couple of years ago. I don't really see him doing that theme any more.
    , @Detective Club
    Pardon me for a moment while I gather pieces of my jaw which still lie scattered on the floor. What is this arrant Fuckery?!

    David Brooks!

    Do you have no sense of decency, Sir?
    , @Father O'Hara
    Subtitled:The Road Not Taken.
    , @FPD72
    If she is marrying a Jew, or any non-Christian for that matter, she is not a "devout Christian." The New Testament is clear that Christians are to marry only within the faith. While people who become Christians while already married to non-believers are to remain in those relationships, Christians are not to enter into marriage with a non-believer.

    She might well be a Christian in that she has accepted the gift of salvation through faith in Christ; devout she is not.
    , @Bleuteaux
    Come on, Steve! It took me about 30 seconds to find a politico story that says that as of about 24 months ago, she lived in HOUSTON! How is that not the most perfect thing we're gonna find all month? I guess we know why he brought up Houston, now!
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  89. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “It is really getting monotonous, but in the long run it may work out be for the best that they feel they no longer have to hide or pretend anymore.”

    I used to wonder how elites throughout history that ended up with their heads on poles could be so blind and just not get it, but it doesn’t seem so outlandish anymore.

    “Americans do have to move. That’s just economics.”

    Is that supposed to be the solution for the entire country? Musical chairs? Move where?

    What happens if people move and there still are not enough jobs?

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    What happens if our coastal elite like Malibu the way it is, rather than having Hong Kong level density?

    And have these people ever heard of something called the "Rural Electrification Administration" the "Appalachian Regional Commission" or the "Tennessee Valley Authority"?

    When leftists needed rural votes, they sung a different tune. If the Silicon Dons want to retain their monopoly status, they should start hiring rural conservatives.
    , @Detective Club
    Silly Wabbitt, ridiculous immigration propaganda is meant only for Gentiles!

    Nothing to see here! Move along and keep moving until you drop dead from total exhaustion, Whitey!
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  90. @Jake
    Of course Neocons are doubling down. They have thus far gotten away with everything they've done, no matter the destruction they have caused.

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.

    This could have been reworded without any of the anti-semitic overtones:

    The wealthy elites agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of Americans are barely better off than serfs

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    You can't discount the ethnic animus that inspires the Jen Rubin's and David Brooks. While they are well-placed in the media hierarchy, I doubt they have a net worth exceeding $10 million, and you aren't "wealthy elite" until you have $100 million+

    To paraphrase the disgusting Tony Blair, we need to be tough on anti-Semitism, and tough on the causes of Anti-Semitism.

    Brooks and Rubin's writings are certainly a cause of the aforesaid. Indeed, the politics of the Jewish community on immigration in the Western countries, is the only thing that would cause ordinary whites to go Cossack and unleash pogroms.
    , @ben tillman

    This could have been reworded without any of the anti-semitic overtones:

    The wealthy elites agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of Americans are barely better off than serfs
     

     
    Yes, if you weren't concerned with its truth value.
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  91. The mouth pieces of the business sector often complain about people in areas with limited job opportunities not moving to areas with more jobs (and higher housing costs) but they rarely criticise the business sector for not moving their operations to areas with cheap labour. If it’s irrational for people to live in areas without many job opportunities its also irrational for lots of businesses and government departments to locate their operations in expensive big cities (with nice restaurants).

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    High tech venture capitalists hate doing business with anybody more than a few miles from Palo Alto. And it's not like Palo Alto is New York or Chicago with huge skyscrapers and massive transportation. It's just a low-lying suburb.
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  92. LKM says:

    His immigration raids are already causing economic disruption in construction and food service industries.

    I thought disruption was the ruling caste’s favourite word. I thought the whole point of letting in all those Mexican landscapers was that their kids would go to Stanford and invent the next Uber. Or is disruption back to being a bad thing now?

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    His immigration raids are already causing economic disruption in construction and food service industries.
     
    Disruption read as having to pay unskilled labor and dishwashers on-the-books, instead of under the table.
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  93. jackson says:

    Yeah, Steve, why do you choose to live in your hometown? What are you, some kind of deviant?

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  94. Anonym says:
    @Polyclone
    I have to admit that in that past I've been uncomfortable with the alt rights use of the parentheses thing to highlight people of a chosen nature. A chosen tribe, if you will.

    I still do feel that discomfort. But. I have to say, the way that the specific pundits being referenced here use the word white is getting dangerously close to sounding like "non urban gentiles that we can't be expected to have empathy for".

    I still do feel that discomfort. But. I have to say, the way that the specific pundits being referenced here use the word white is getting dangerously close to sounding like “non urban gentiles that we can’t be expected to have empathy for”.

    I am still waiting for a comment to be allowed, or disallowed, as the case may be. Your use of euphemism is good. Maybe this comment will get published. Meanwhile, some relaxing music to ponder Rubin/Brooks anti-whitism. Whatever do they have in common?

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  95. Curle says:

    Anyone remember this?

    “Not because she’s conservative, but because she’s just plain bad,”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/08/ex-washington-post-ombudsman-fire-jennifer-rubin-170603

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  96. Marina says:
    @PiltdownMan

    You’re in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this — 1897
     


    No, it's 2017.

    Sorry, couldn't resist...

    It’s the current year!

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  97. Dr. Doom says:

    Yeah that dying superpower you need to see next year is nowhere near as vibrant as the dead cities full of crime where people defecate and urinate on the street. But as long as the power stays on, you just need fences, bars and a dozen security guards to sleep soundly. What are the chances that vibrancy will end up badly? Look at Rio. They just had a Mardi Gras and barely anything worse than a gang war and race riot happened. Yeah Rio. Carnivale. President facing prison. Police Death Squads. We can see the appeal of this to people who have the perceptiveness of socially isolated minorities in Brooklyn can’t we?

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  98. Anonym says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks' junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]

    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” Snyder, 23 years Brooks’ junior, is a devout Christian.

    So the thought process is – marry and procreate with the goyim, send your mischlinge children off to fight for the IDF, while propagandize against your grandkids. Then divorce the first wife you had and marry your research assistant while writing a book hilariously called “The Road to Character.” (lol – I’m guessing he must have found that road and started down the other way.).

    I wonder how much of the massive Jewish out-marriage has been caused by “The Jazz Singer” with Neil Diamond. Maybe not much. But I had thought that all of it was just a matter of unintended consequences of getting high on your own supply – Jewish kids soaking up and internalizing propaganda meant for others. So I was surprised when I chanced on this surfing youtube the other night:

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  99. Brooks and Rubin are very passionate and sympathetic with non-white US immigrants and very hostile and unsympathetic towards Trump voters and they are influential writers that push the narrative accordingly. Well, the Trump voter demographic needs better writers like Sailer except more mainstream to push the dominant narrative in their favor.

    I do agree that all Americans of all ethnic groups should be encouraged to move to areas with more opportunity. That’s a pretty safe neutral idea by itself.

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  100. @unpc downunder
    The mouth pieces of the business sector often complain about people in areas with limited job opportunities not moving to areas with more jobs (and higher housing costs) but they rarely criticise the business sector for not moving their operations to areas with cheap labour. If it's irrational for people to live in areas without many job opportunities its also irrational for lots of businesses and government departments to locate their operations in expensive big cities (with nice restaurants).

    High tech venture capitalists hate doing business with anybody more than a few miles from Palo Alto. And it’s not like Palo Alto is New York or Chicago with huge skyscrapers and massive transportation. It’s just a low-lying suburb.

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  101. guest says:

    It *seems* we should be encouraging regular Americans to be like immigrants, she says, because what are the alternatives? What’s she gonna say, be like blacks and live as welfare queens or criminals? Be like Red Indians, and die in a ditch of alcohol poisoning or live in a mansion off casino money?

    Can’t pick those, because that’s not good neoconning. So fresh off the boat/out of the river it is. Like every main character in every Disney cartoon, as soon as we hit puberty we sing songs about getting away from our boring parents and being part of someone else’s world.

    What about closing the borders, you ask. Why isn’t that an option? Why can’t we choose Legacy America, as opposed to being immigrants, blacks, or reds? That’s just not an option, because shut up.

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  102. @donut
    Or if you prefer the "mitti Merckle" version :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICIaQCVRek

    Trump should play this in her honor when Chancellor Merkel comes to call.

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    You rascal .
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  103. guest says:

    It’s possible Trump will wreak havoc, but it’ll only be more havoc. Because our current ridiculous immigration non-policy is causing destruction. What Trump wants is order, which is at least a possible outcome. What we have now is anarcho-tyranny, which idiots mistake for liberty.

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  104. @Buzz Mohawk
    Meanwhile here in Connecticut, we had an Amber Alert today when a previously-deported El Salvadorian man abducted his six-year-old daughter after stabbing her mother to death.

    This happens a day after our glorious governor went of TV last night and claimed he instructed our state police not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities to save money (which is a political lie, of course). This bastard Governor Dannel Malloy has made us a sanctuary state, and now Trump's luck brings us a stabbing murder and kidnapping by one of our precious illegal aliens (future Democrat voter).

    Will this story get any national attention?

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/CT-Amber-Alert-Issued-for-6-Year-Old-Girl-After-Bridgeport-Stabbing-414693153.html

    Malloy joins a long line of Irish shabbos goys. Weak-willed stuff, that.

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  105. guest says:
    @Pat Casey
    Speaking of phrases that colonize our mind, no one ever seems to mention that the dogma about America being a Nation of Immigrants offends the history of the immigrants who came here as slaves. Our man of letters over at the Atlantic should mount the argument to have that shibboleth retired for the sake of not obscuring this country's original sin, not allowing one more way white people can contrive to make black bodies invisible. He could have us discover the profound ways black people are alienated when they hear that America is a Nation of Immigrants. Could that be why they called the film The Birth of a Nation?

    Anyways that's one more wedge to be levered against the coalition of the fringes.

    Blacks will have plenty of time to fight browns and yellows after whites are out of the way. In the meantime, they have bigger fish to fry.

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  106. the glibness with “just move to a better city” would have soon become “just move to Mexico or Canada if you want to work with your hands” had Trump not got elected. he’s not the perfect president, but any sense of home, place, or nationhood was heading out window (and still we have these “conservatives” seemingly hoping to get rid of it.) People like living in Indiana, Iowa, Arkansas, etc because they love their family, friends, and homes. We can’t artificially keep all these places as boom towns, but we certainly can not actively try to destroy job markets in these places like we have for decades. it’s actually scary to these people that we have a president who actually shows he is thinking about people who are white, can’t code, don’t have 130 IQs and don’t live in big cities.

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  107. donut says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Trump should play this in her honor when Chancellor Merkel comes to call.

    You rascal .

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  108. anonguy says:
    @Mikey Darmody
    Jennifer Rubin is one of the most physically and intellectually repulsive beings of all time. Many people feel bad for her husband because of this.

    Jennifer Rubin is one of the most physically and intellectually repulsive beings of all time. Many people feel bad for her husband because of this.

    Keepin’ it classy, I can see…

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    "Keepin’ it classy, I can see…"
    No decorum when they want you dead.
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  109. Ah, Jennifer Rubin.

    As Mr. Podhoretz of Commentary informed The Atlantic upon her Ascension to The Washington Post:

    “For the past three years, Jennifer Rubin has set this blog and this website afire with her breadth of knowledge, her love of the intricacies of politics, her passion for ideas and policy, and her commitment to principle,” Podhoretz wrote. “The living embodiment of the word ‘indefatigable,’ Jen has labored daily from her home in suburban Virginia, writing early in the morning and late at night, on computer and Blackberry… never missing a news story, never missing an op-ed column, reading everything and digesting everything and commenting on everything.”

    His conclusion?

    “She is a phenomenon,” Podhoretz wrote. “It is a brilliant hire for them and a terrific loss for us.”

    To avoid any confusion, even The Atlantic realized that she was a homicidal moron of epic proportions, and that is really saying something.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/the-rights-jennifer-rubin-problem-a-case-study-in-info-disadvantage/264942/

    We can beat these people. Truth and God is on Our Side.

    The Emperor’s New Clothes.

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    Damn what a strange handle : Clifford Brown. I can still remember the day he was killed on the Pa turnpike, heard it on the car radio while riding with my mom and siblings to a fish and chip restaurant in west Detroit, summer of 56.
    He, Clifford, was one of the greatest. I was just listening a couple of days ago to his Paris concert, with GG Grice, with their marvelous version of " All the things you are".

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
    , @bored identity
    Clifford is just envious because Jennifers" has set her blog and Commentary's website afire with her breadth of knowledge, her love of the intricacies of politics, her passion for ideas and policy, and her commitment to principle.”

    Any other desperate American co-housewife could have done the same, if she only had that special fire-setting abilities of Rubin...

    Don't hate, appreciate!
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  110. e says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Meanwhile here in Connecticut, we had an Amber Alert today when a previously-deported El Salvadorian man abducted his six-year-old daughter after stabbing her mother to death.

    This happens a day after our glorious governor went of TV last night and claimed he instructed our state police not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities to save money (which is a political lie, of course). This bastard Governor Dannel Malloy has made us a sanctuary state, and now Trump's luck brings us a stabbing murder and kidnapping by one of our precious illegal aliens (future Democrat voter).

    Will this story get any national attention?

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/CT-Amber-Alert-Issued-for-6-Year-Old-Girl-After-Bridgeport-Stabbing-414693153.html

    You might be interested in tonight’s Tucker Carlson interview of the mayor of Hartford.

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    Everything Tucker Carlson does on his show is interesting. He is making FOX News Great Again.
    , @res
    I like his approach of asking pointed questions then mostly letting his interviewees talk while interjecting more pointed questions/redirects. Two questions come to mind though.
    1. Do people who are more sympathetic to the interviewee see how inane their responses usually are?
    2. How long will Tucker be able to get people like that to come on his show? (perhaps that is the upside of dealing with true believer types though)

    Regarding that specific interview, does anyone know how that mayor managed to reconcile "sanctuary city" with still deporting criminal illegal immigrants?
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  111. Mr. Anon says:

    Rootless Cosmopolitan’s advice to the people of the Heartland: Become a Rootless Cosmopolitan.

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    They, the tribe, are not rootless. They have institutions and charities supporting each other everywhere they go. But Heaven forbid that a white person be permitted to create said institutions.

    Nor are they deracinated. They have separate sororities and fraternities. They have their own neighborhoods.

    Throughout this country, white ethnic neighborhoods were broken up and forced to flee to the suburbs, thereby breaking important ethnic ties.

    We hear that Hispanics are the largest ethnic minority. But I believe that title belongs to Germans. Hispanics are free to identify as Hispanics and promote their group interests. Germans, no way.
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  112. Maj. Kong says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.
     
    This could have been reworded without any of the anti-semitic overtones:

    The wealthy elites agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of Americans are barely better off than serfs
     

    You can’t discount the ethnic animus that inspires the Jen Rubin’s and David Brooks. While they are well-placed in the media hierarchy, I doubt they have a net worth exceeding $10 million, and you aren’t “wealthy elite” until you have $100 million+

    To paraphrase the disgusting Tony Blair, we need to be tough on anti-Semitism, and tough on the causes of Anti-Semitism.

    Brooks and Rubin’s writings are certainly a cause of the aforesaid. Indeed, the politics of the Jewish community on immigration in the Western countries, is the only thing that would cause ordinary whites to go Cossack and unleash pogroms.

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    And that fear of the majority, armed up to their wazoo, going Cossack as before, would be the exact reason as to why she would propagate demographic changes to ensure no reoccurrence of pogroms. And if Rubin is reading Sailer, then you may be certain that your comments will not be ignored. So, don't be surprised if she doubles down the current double down... Congratulations!
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  113. Maj. Kong says:
    @anonymous
    "It is really getting monotonous, but in the long run it may work out be for the best that they feel they no longer have to hide or pretend anymore."

    I used to wonder how elites throughout history that ended up with their heads on poles could be so blind and just not get it, but it doesn't seem so outlandish anymore.


    "Americans do have to move. That’s just economics."

    Is that supposed to be the solution for the entire country? Musical chairs? Move where?

    What happens if people move and there still are not enough jobs?

    What happens if our coastal elite like Malibu the way it is, rather than having Hong Kong level density?

    And have these people ever heard of something called the “Rural Electrification Administration” the “Appalachian Regional Commission” or the “Tennessee Valley Authority”?

    When leftists needed rural votes, they sung a different tune. If the Silicon Dons want to retain their monopoly status, they should start hiring rural conservatives.

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  114. guest says:

    I didn’t think such a thing possible yesterday, but this article makes Brooks look relatively good. At least there’s a quality of mystification in a Brooks piece. However much with which there is to disagree, I’m left with an overall feeling of “Wha?” Like a symbolist poem.

    Rubin, in contrast, is too obvious in her hackery. It’s transparent bunkum.

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  115. Maj. Kong says:
    @(((Owen)))
    (((Stephen Miller))), (((Jared Kushner))), (((Ron Unz))), (((Ivanka))), (((Binyamin Netanyahu))).

    Only the first of those is known to have commented that the US should retain a semblance of its traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    While the latter may not be Schumers or Raabs, they’re no Samuel Gompers, yet.

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    Maj. Kong:

    How dare you disparage our patron and benefactor who as editor/publisher enables
    the survival and flourishing of our country's traditional ethnoreligious majority.
    , @(((Owen)))

    traditional ethnoreligious majority.
     
    Ethno-religious?

    Sneaking in a stolen concept there?

    I don't give a fig if our posterity worship YHWH or Wotan or Allah or Quetzalcoatl. Better they be wise than unwise gods, but I don't care which. I care a whole lot that they be *our* posterity.

    Diversity is an unwise god.
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  116. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dr. X

    We’re managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom.
     
    You're in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this -- 1897?

    You’re in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this — 1897?

    I hope that she doesn’t work in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory.

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  117. Mr. Anon says:
    @e
    You might be interested in tonight's Tucker Carlson interview of the mayor of Hartford.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFf1O4x5as

    Everything Tucker Carlson does on his show is interesting. He is making FOX News Great Again.

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  118. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Harry Baldwin
    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks' junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]

    David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.”

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Yeah I remember his whole “character” phase from a couple of years ago. I don’t really see him doing that theme any more.

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    Anon:

    David Brooks and his character sermonizing brings to mind another blowhard; William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored "Book of Virtues".
    , @Mr. Anon

    Yeah I remember his whole “character” phase from a couple of years ago. I don’t really see him doing that theme any more.
     
    As George Burns once said:

    "The most important thing in show business is sincerity. If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    , @Forbes
    Brooks' "Bobos in Paradise" struck me as comedic in his lack of self-awareness. He raises writing about the trivial and mundane to an art form. A style he appears to have mastered.
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  119. I do agree that all Americans of all ethnic groups should be encouraged to move to areas with more opportunity. That’s a pretty safe neutral idea by itself.

    Thank you for that bold and daring advice, which any big corporation p. r. spokesperson would endorse.

    Safe, respectable opinions such as yours sure are going to solve America’s problems.

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  120. Rod1963 says:
    @Prof. Woland
    I cannot even listen to NPR anymore because of the incessant flogging for immigration-refugees-migrants-dreamers-blech. You have to wonder what the vetting process is for working there because the end product is so uniform. Show after show and it is the exact same thing.

    It would behoove the right if they built their own public radio / television network similar to how the left has Pacifica radio. First of all, by making it not for profit it would immediately take it out of the potential control of corporations and the neo-cons which would give it a free hand to cover un-PC issues. It would help incubate potential allies who have legitimate needs but can never get political representation, the two biggest being whites and men. By forcing the alt-right into the mass airwaves, it would make it impossible for the entire rest of the society to ignore the ugly parts of things such as immigration, black and brown dysfunction, reverse discrimination, and hypergamy. Right now, people don't have to notice. It would be like one huge Milo trolling on a national scale.

    Breitbart will probably be the one to make it happen. The owner of BB is a multi-billionaire and apparently doesn’t give a rats ass about the Left and he doesn’t have to beg for money like many others do on the alt-right.

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    If Breitbart ever gets on (and I agree, that out of the alt-right they are best positioned to do it) the MSM is will occur in one of two ways. Either they will have a show that is on the MSM similar to how the WSJ has one, or they will start a network; the first being far more likely. I think we are already seeing this with Tucker Carlson getting on the air after his stint with the Daily Caller, a blog that is Breitbart light.

    It would be extremely expensive and fought against furiously but it is the next logical step. The interesting thing is that the content is easily harvest able. The reason the right on the internet is so much more interesting than the left is that it is still virgin territory. There are still so many more taboos to break and things to uncover whereas the left is out of ideas. It is just the piercing of the media veil that is standing in the way. The reason a not for profit model like Pacifica would be ideal is that it would cost far less than network television. All it would take is hundreds of millions, something the right could conjure up easily.

    By the way, our Steve should be on the air on a regular basis. I don't know if he would give good TV but he would certainly cause a stink.
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  121. Maj. Kong says:
    @Anonymous
    Population decline in the Midwest mostly has to do with farming consolidation in the 70s and 80s. Until then, there were still lots of family farms.

    Deindustrialization/population loss began in earnest during the 1970s, spurred on by various causes like the Japanese competition, environmentalism, and the gradual relocation of the military-industrial complex to Southern states (a far longer trend).

    You can see the roots of the decline start in the late 50s, with the collapse of Studebaker and the migration of the auto industry from the city of Detroit out to the suburbs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

    An extreme example, but part of a trend. Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today’s China. Some of the out-migration is related.

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    Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today’s China.
     
    Is no one concerned that President Trump's seemingly reflexive, blanket, unquailified, arbitrary and capricious anti-regulation stance might lead us back to the decidedly undesirable conditions that you describe and others?

    This is not to deny that there are probably plenty of excesses and faults with plenty of regulations. But when I hear things like the President's directive to all federal agencies that in order to enact any new regulation, they must first repal two existing regulations, I can only cringe. Imagine, as an analogy, a patient who had reasonable cause for believing that he was over-medicated. Would anyone reasonable and prudent suggest that the physician(s) treating/advising such a hypothetical patient operate under a blanket order that before prescribing any new medication, two of the patient's current medications must be eliminated?
    , @Dissident

    Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today’s China.
     
    Is no one concerned that President Trump's seemingly reflexive, blanket, unqualified, arbitrary and capricious anti-regulation stance might lead us back to the decidedly undesirable conditions that you describe and others?

    This is not to deny that there are probably plenty of excesses and faults with plenty of regulations. But when I hear things like the President's directive to all federal agencies that in order to enact any new regulation, they must first repeal two existing regulations, I can only cringe. Imagine, as an analogy, a patient who had reasonable cause for believing that he was over-medicated. Would anyone reasonable and prudent suggest that the physician(s) treating/advising such a hypothetical patient operate under a blanket order that before prescribing any new medication, two of the patient's current medications must be eliminated?
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  122. I get the feeling that the real problem isn’t that the plebs are dying, but rather, that we are not dying off fast enough for them. This is just another version of Obama’s theory of “bitter clingers” foolishly resisting the inevitable brave new world .

    I’ve long suspected that the elites hate us. The difference now is that they are not even bothering to hide it. Strange days.

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    I suspect that part of the angst that Jews like Ruben suffer from comes from knowing that as long as there are "whites", not only as a significant part of the population but in separate distinct enclaves like Indiana and Michigan, there will continue to be people who came before them who built the Country and laying claim to the culture. She knows Jews were not the chosen people for this land. This is why all the emphasis on extinction and obliteration. Once white people are gone, like the Palestinians, she can feel comfortable and there will be no one left to interfere with the rewriting of the new narrative.

    I suspect that there were and are whites who felt the same thing towards the Native Americans. While whites like me were the first "Americans" we certainly were not the first people here. When people attack the notion of America, they will quickly point out to how Indian lands where taken and slavery because it tarnishes the cherished myth. Of course part of the fear is that the narrative is not over and her part is yet to be written.
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  123. King Baeksu says: • Website

    >Mass offshoring of manufacturing jobs
    >Mass inward migration
    >Limited-scale offshoring mixed with limited-scale inward migration

    Pick one and only one, you soul-sucking psychopaths.

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  124. Maj. Kong says:
    @Dr. X

    Reading this and the recent comments made by Brooks and Kristol
     
    Oddly enough, between Books, Kristol, and Rubin, there seems to be a significant correlation between membership in a certain Tribe and ripping on the white American working class within the past week...

    The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics aren’t much different in regards to mass immigration.

    On a day-to-day basis, it probably matters more than some bicoastal Jewish writers whose names are likely unfamiliar to 90% of the electorate.

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    The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics aren’t much different in regards to mass immigration.
     
    But they're followers, not leaders. People like Brooks and Rubin-Erdely are the leaders.
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  125. King Baeksu says: • Website
    @Polyclone
    I have to admit that in that past I've been uncomfortable with the alt rights use of the parentheses thing to highlight people of a chosen nature. A chosen tribe, if you will.

    I still do feel that discomfort. But. I have to say, the way that the specific pundits being referenced here use the word white is getting dangerously close to sounding like "non urban gentiles that we can't be expected to have empathy for".

    I have to say, the way that the specific pundits being referenced here use the word white is getting dangerously close to sounding like “non urban gentiles that we can’t be expected to have empathy for”.

    Don’t get so uppity, peasant. Only They’re allowed to do the noticing.

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  126. @Harry Baldwin
    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks' junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]

    Pardon me for a moment while I gather pieces of my jaw which still lie scattered on the floor. What is this arrant Fuckery?!

    David Brooks!

    Do you have no sense of decency, Sir?

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  127. Maj. Kong says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Perhaps Jennifer is just projecting. 2015-2016 was quite possibly the beginning of the waning of Jewish America. They have peaked and will slide down like the WASPs did two generations ago. They have money but demographically they are cooked. Politically, they will be turfed out of the left by the changing demographics much they same way it is already occurring in Europe and the right is coalescing in spite the Jews best efforts to prevent it. Worse, the media, which as always been their ace in the hole has turned out to be not omnipotent which must give them major schpelkis. I think Jennifer Rubin might want to start looking after her own posterity instead of just tearing down her nemesis'.

    Of the European countries, only the UK and France have a sizeable Jewish community, and it is nowhere near the proportion in NY state or Harvard University. In the rest of Europe, their influence is like the Wizard of Oz.

    One card in their favor is that increased out-marriage among the non-Orthodox will actually increase the number of people identifying as Jewish, because it doesn’t carry the negative connation of “meanness” associated with Christianity, and offers victim chits higher than claiming no religious identity. And identifying as “Jewish” even with say only 1/4th ancestry, doesn’t mean you have to observe kosher.

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  128. 5371 says:

    [Trump glorifies ... the causalities in globalization and automation]

    How does a supposedly educated person think this conveys some meaning?

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  129. “it seems we should not be filling Trump voters with the false hope that coal jobs are coming back, but rather encourage them to be like immigrants — go to where the work is.”

    Sure, just like that.

    but what happens when the work is shipped overseas so the corporations can make even more profits from paying lower wages? Or, what happens when a glut of workers crowd into the large urban centers, only to find out that there are only so many jobs to go around?

    Sounds like brooks is a frustrated Jeb! speechwriter.

    Cue Derbyshire’s “Jeb bush really doesn’t like Americans very much.”

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  130. @anonymous
    "It is really getting monotonous, but in the long run it may work out be for the best that they feel they no longer have to hide or pretend anymore."

    I used to wonder how elites throughout history that ended up with their heads on poles could be so blind and just not get it, but it doesn't seem so outlandish anymore.


    "Americans do have to move. That’s just economics."

    Is that supposed to be the solution for the entire country? Musical chairs? Move where?

    What happens if people move and there still are not enough jobs?

    Silly Wabbitt, ridiculous immigration propaganda is meant only for Gentiles!

    Nothing to see here! Move along and keep moving until you drop dead from total exhaustion, Whitey!

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  131. Achilles says:
    @Cicatrizatic
    While there are obviously some Jewish intellectuals that favor immigration restriction, on net, they are disproportionately in favor of open borders by a large margin.

    While there are obviously some Jewish intellectuals that favor immigration restriction, on net, they are disproportionately in favor of open borders by a large margin.

    Unfortunately all too true.

    In respect of numbers, the large majority of Jews in America are indisputably liberals.

    Beyond liberals, hard-left Jews far outnumber neoconservative Jews.

    And then fourthly we have conservative Jews who identify with, and are not alienated from, their white gentile friends and neighbors and who have no difficulty viewing themselves as a part of an American people or an American nation.

    I would argue that in this fourth category we have the best of the Jews, like Stephen Miller and David Horowitz. And we have a few foreign friends like Netanyahu. I have been glad to know a number of U.S. military officers in this category. Unfortunately, in recent history this has been the smallest group and with the least influence. We have had Jews within this fourth category going all the way back to colonial days, but they often tended to freely intermarry with non-Jewish Americans and then sort of vanish into the pool of generic Americans.

    One conclusion I have reached about neocon Jews is that their irrational, usually latent, hostility to white gentile Americans derives from an unwillingness to disturb comfortable psychological crutches not well-grounded in reality that they habitually rest on in order to maintain a sense of moral superiority.

    One reason I admire David Horowitz is that once he had his second thoughts, far from backsliding, he rather forged fearlessly ahead and turned his penetrating gaze on his own roots and background with unflinching honesty. Unflinching, but not unsentimental or unaffectionate.

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    but they often tended to freely intermarry with non-Jewish Americans and then sort of vanish into the pool of generic Americans.

    I think you hit the nail on the head. A (non-neocon) right-leaning Jew is going to have a harder time finding a Jewish partner, and has much less reservation about marrying a non-Jew. Intermarriage rates are quite high as is, and Mencius Moldbug types without huge amounts of free time and independent income to start a long-winded blog probably just marry a nice shiksa and do their thing, with the only real legacy of their ancestry being slightly larger noses among the professional class of the Northeast.

    Also, such types, whatever their frequency, are much less likely to enter politics or opinion journalism. If they see themselves as Americans first, they're not going to write articles on 'the Jewish perspective on X'. Given their ancestry and views, they don't fit comfortably on the MSM or the growing alt-right, so they're more likely to say 'politics is bunk' or 'both sides stink' and apply their efforts elsewhere.
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  132. Dan Hayes says:
    @Maj. Kong
    Only the first of those is known to have commented that the US should retain a semblance of its traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    While the latter may not be Schumers or Raabs, they're no Samuel Gompers, yet.

    Maj. Kong:

    How dare you disparage our patron and benefactor who as editor/publisher enables
    the survival and flourishing of our country’s traditional ethnoreligious majority.

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    How about he provides explicit support and repudiates the positions he took during the 90s.

    He could also advocate Calexit, or relocate to Israel. I would accept either of those three as morally acceptable options.
    , @ben tillman

    How dare you disparage our patron and benefactor who as editor/publisher enables the survival and flourishing of our country’s traditional ethnoreligious majority.
     
    Let's not confuse support for heterodox opinion and open discussion of conservative policies with actual support of all of those policies themselves. Ron Unz takes credit for stopping immigration restriction in the 1990s.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-conventional-wisdom-in-a-nutshell/#comments


    Taking the risk that some of you may eventually have me tortured or assassinated, I should probably mention that I personally was the individual who shifted the immigration issue in the mid-1990s around the time of the Pete Wilson/Prop. 187 campaign. If not for me, I’m pretty sure immigration would have been closed down at that point.
     
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  133. @anonguy

    Jennifer Rubin is one of the most physically and intellectually repulsive beings of all time. Many people feel bad for her husband because of this.
     
    Keepin' it classy, I can see...

    “Keepin’ it classy, I can see…”
    No decorum when they want you dead.

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  134. Maj. Kong says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Maj. Kong:

    How dare you disparage our patron and benefactor who as editor/publisher enables
    the survival and flourishing of our country's traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    How about he provides explicit support and repudiates the positions he took during the 90s.

    He could also advocate Calexit, or relocate to Israel. I would accept either of those three as morally acceptable options.

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  135. Maj. Kong says:

    “Cast down your bucket where you are”

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/88/

    This means you, Google and Facebook. And you too, venture capital firms.

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  136. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anon

    David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.”
     
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Yeah I remember his whole "character" phase from a couple of years ago. I don't really see him doing that theme any more.

    Anon:

    David Brooks and his character sermonizing brings to mind another blowhard; William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored “Book of Virtues”.

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    David Brooks and his character sermonizing brings to mind another blowhard; William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored “Book of Virtues”.
     
    Everytime I see Bennett, all I can think is: Dude, you were addicted to playing video poker. That isn't just being a degenerate gambler. It's being stupid. Honestly, I would have more respect for him if he had been an opium addict.

    I don't see why he is so often invited on TV to expound; I've never heard him say anything that was deep or insightful
    , @EriK

    William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored “Book of Virtues”
     
    He didn't write it, he edited it. Please explain.
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  137. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Anon:

    David Brooks and his character sermonizing brings to mind another blowhard; William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored "Book of Virtues".

    David Brooks and his character sermonizing brings to mind another blowhard; William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored “Book of Virtues”.

    Everytime I see Bennett, all I can think is: Dude, you were addicted to playing video poker. That isn’t just being a degenerate gambler. It’s being stupid. Honestly, I would have more respect for him if he had been an opium addict.

    I don’t see why he is so often invited on TV to expound; I’ve never heard him say anything that was deep or insightful

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  138. Ed says:

    I bet Ms. Israel Rubin doesn’t know about residents using their Section 8 vouchers obtained in places like Chicago to move to Texas? What an awful woman to be given a platform.

    Also how vibrant are these cities in reality? We are also told that in many of these cities there aren’t any jobs for many of the black residents.

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  139. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon

    David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.”
     
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Yeah I remember his whole "character" phase from a couple of years ago. I don't really see him doing that theme any more.

    Yeah I remember his whole “character” phase from a couple of years ago. I don’t really see him doing that theme any more.

    As George Burns once said:

    “The most important thing in show business is sincerity. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”

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  140. Olorin says:

    David Brooks writes: “For the life of me, I can’t figure out why so many Republicans prefer a dying white America to a place like, say, Houston.”

    David Brooks lives in Houston? Heck, I had no idea!

    Somebody should change his Wikipedia entry!

    Brooks met his ex-wife, the former Jane Hughes, while both were students at the University of Chicago. She converted to Judaism [71] and changed her given name to Sarah.[72] In 2012, Brooks and his wife moved from their home in Bethesda, Maryland, to the Cleveland Park neighborhood of Northwest Washington, D.C., where they purchased a home.[73] Brooks said during a February 2015 interview with Brian Lamb that he and his wife are divorced.[74]

    Median hh income in Cleveland Park over $105,000. 80% of Cleveland Park residents households are over $60,000; 60% over $100,000; 23% over $200,000.

    Houston’s median household income is just under $46,000.

    Zillow lists average home value in Cleveland Park as around $700,000. Houston’s, under $200,000.

    Houston is 44% hispanic, 23% black, 25% white.

    Cleveland Park? Spanish speaker % is “n/a,” and whites comprise 82%, 8% black, and didn’t see anything about hispanic:

    http://www.areavibes.com/washington-dc/cleveland+park/demographics/

    So, Mr. Brooks, since it’s clear you hate living in Dying White America, I urge you to move to Houston. Or, what the heck, Brentwood, Park View, or Anacostia.

    Here’s Cleveland Park:

    https://www.airbnb.com/locations/washington-dc/cleveland-park

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/neighborhood-profile-cleveland-park/2012/08/02/gJQA8TqmSX_story.html?utm_term=.d3b1aa9d0e19

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  141. Hhsiii says:
    @Marina
    It's a two bedroom apartment. My husband has a bunch of expensive and toddler unfriendly work equipment, so that, plus storage, take up the second 10x10 bedroom. The larger bedroom has a king bed for us, a twin for the toddler and is soon to get a crib for the impending arrival. It's better than the alternatives (expensive equipment in the toddler accessible living room, toddler sleeping in the living room, etc.) I wouldn't want to do it with middle school children, but it's fine right now. And keeping all the clothes in one room makes putting away laundry very efficient. If we were living here longer we'd wall off the dining area and convert it to a third bedroom and reshuffle.

    There are 5 of us in an 800 square foot 2 br on the upper east side. Three kids, age 7, 2 and 9 months. My Latvian mother in law comes in from Queens every weekday to tend the little ones. I pay the maintenance on her apartment out in Queens. Eventually we will sell that apartment and use it for a down payment for a suburban place. We are holding back because my wife doesn’t want to live with her mother.

    The kids have their br and the baby is in a portacrib in our be. But the sleeping arrangements are loose. My daughter, almost 8, considers it a treat to sleep on the foldout in the living room.

    I grew up with 4 siblings in a huge suburban house. With a big yard next to an open field. And I walked to school starting in first grade. I don’t think my parents ever knew where the hell we were.

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  142. @Maj. Kong
    Only the first of those is known to have commented that the US should retain a semblance of its traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    While the latter may not be Schumers or Raabs, they're no Samuel Gompers, yet.

    traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    Ethno-religious?

    Sneaking in a stolen concept there?

    I don’t give a fig if our posterity worship YHWH or Wotan or Allah or Quetzalcoatl. Better they be wise than unwise gods, but I don’t care which. I care a whole lot that they be *our* posterity.

    Diversity is an unwise god.

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    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    You're a true ignoramus if you believe that all religions are equally compatible with Western civilization.

    Maybe you wouldn't mind if your daughter ended up wearing a burka in a harem, but I sure as hell would.
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  143. And, moreover, the presence of vibrant cities not just on the coasts but also in the heartland suggests Trump’s base would greatly benefit by moving from dead and dying Rust Belt towns to more economically vibrant places.

    Notice how the neocons expect White Americans to leave their homes and move across the continent to a strange place but the neocons then turn around and portray our asking Mexicans to return to their homes as imposing on them an intolerable hardship.

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  144. MadDog says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Rootless Cosmopolitan's advice to the people of the Heartland: Become a Rootless Cosmopolitan.

    They, the tribe, are not rootless. They have institutions and charities supporting each other everywhere they go. But Heaven forbid that a white person be permitted to create said institutions.

    Nor are they deracinated. They have separate sororities and fraternities. They have their own neighborhoods.

    Throughout this country, white ethnic neighborhoods were broken up and forced to flee to the suburbs, thereby breaking important ethnic ties.

    We hear that Hispanics are the largest ethnic minority. But I believe that title belongs to Germans. Hispanics are free to identify as Hispanics and promote their group interests. Germans, no way.

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  145. bossel says:

    electing as President some small town Rust Belter like Trump

    Yeah, & who knows the burden of the little man, because he knows how it is when you live from manual labour.

    What does Trump know about city living? Has he ever been more than two stories off the ground in his whole backwoods life?

    Well, obviously not. & when he crawls out of the hole in the ground, where this poor old man lives, his chauffeur is waiting to bring him to the factory to toil in his very own sweat. A real man of the people…

    But, funny, it turns out that immigrants have already gotten to Houston.

    Yeah, funny. Does that mean real US-Americans shouldn’t go there?

    And immediately bid down pay so that it’s not worthwhile for an American to move there.

    So, these US-Americans earn enough where they live. No problem then. Or, is it?

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  146. Cagey Beast says: • Website
    @donut
    You know fellas I think that the root cause of our problems is not the Jew but rather the Beecher family : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ward_Beecher .

    The root of every progressive lie , the original anti-white movement and the CNN of their day . Well , you know me right ? Right Wing , Neo- Nazi crackpot . So tell me what do you think ?

    Quite right. Internet warriors who blame every socially corrosive idea on the Jews should have a close look at all those 19th century Protestant pains in the ass.

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    19th Century?! The damned Lutherans, Methodists and Unitarians are essential to the taxpayer-funded "refugee" programs in the 21st Century.
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  147. @Harry Baldwin
    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks' junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]

    Subtitled:The Road Not Taken.

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  148. OT–https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/02/24/no-sweden-isnt-hiding-an-immigrant-crime-problem-this-is-the-real-story

    [T]he government of Sweden is a model in making data accessible and actions transparent…

    Sweden’s information landscape [is] a model for other countries to emulate…

    Citizens in Sweden can use this information to hold their government accountable…

    …Swedish police do not collect information on the ethnicity, religion, or race of perpetrators or victims of crime, which means there’s no evidence for claims that Muslim immigrants are committing crimes in record numbers.

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  149. SFG says:
    @Autochthon

    Trump's policies ... seeks....
     
    I make a hojillion typographical errors in this forum a week, but I'm just a schlub with a day job and a shitty commute seeking intelligent interaction via his telephone; my briefs and memoranda, nevermind the stuff I have published in professional and academic journals, are impeccable, not because I am infallible, but because I proofread them.

    What gives with these ostensibly professional writers? They are literally professional writers, not, like me, professionals writing; their whole damned job is to write! Yet they cannot make their subjects and verbs agree. I see this stuff constantly anymore. It used to go without saying that if you wanted to, say, write for the New York Times, you had to actually be a competent – indeed, an excellent – writer (mere competency maybe landed you at, say, the Indianapolis Star).

    I suppose it's all another manifestation of our not being able to have nice things anymore....


    ...they might learn that immigrants aren’t out to steal their jobs or murder their kids....
     
    I can attest first hand they sure as Hell are out to steal your stuff, if not your job, and to assault you, if not murder your kids....

    I suspect having to use ‘they’ as a third person singular to avoid sexism is scrambling their brains somewhat, at least if taught under the old system.

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  150. Hibernian says:
    @newrouter

    In sum, rather than leave Americans in Rust Belt isolation, with a shriveled job market, it makes sense to encourage and assist them to move to productive areas of the country, which in many cases means a more urban environment.
     
    Writing from near Pittsburgh: I find pundits who use "Rust Belt" nearly 40 years after Big Steel's collapse "bubble" ignorant. There may be a few derelict manufacturing facility here and there but for the most part all the old manufacturing facilities have been scrapped. For example on the southside of Pittsburgh the former LTV Steel mill is now a mixed use area of shops and housing. The only thing remaining of LTV site is the tunnel that Pgh & Lake Erie RR built now used by CSX RR. The LTV site across the Monogahela is now used by Uber and CMU. Same with USS Homestead works of strike notoriety. The whole site is mixed use commercial, residential recreational.(US Steel has an office there).

    Since Big Steel's collapse, there hasn't a big boom in any area of industry but there hasn't been any collapse either. We have fracking, Uber/Google/CMU, healthcare, steel (it is memorable to cross the Geo Westinghouse bridge on certain mornings and see the steam emanating from USX Edgar Thomson plant.).

    Mostly what clowns like Rubin don't want to understand is that the idiot regulations put out by the federal gov't during the last 8 years are the problem. I used to do air pollution monitoring maintenance at 2 local power plants that burned coal. One has been shut down and the other has been forced to install a scrubber. For what gain? The air isn't much cleaner(2010-2017) but jobs are gone. The administrative state has crashed into the wall of" diminishing returns".
    So. I'm happy that Pres. Trump is taking on the regulatory state. Give 'em hell Donald.

    I went through Pittsburgh on Amtrak about 7 years ago. Sure seemed to be a lot of derelict industrial sites. Of course things can change in 7 years.

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    Railroads always run through the oldest industrial section so you can't judge by the view from the railroad tracks. (Likewise, the airport is usually in a swamp and surrounded by junk yards, etc. - my first view of Rome was on the route from the airport and if you go by that you'd think that Rome was a dump).

    Pittsburgh has been de-industrialized but it has been reborn as a post-industrial city. The biggest sector is health care. This is true in a lot of places. It seems to me that health care is not really a productive sector but what do I know?
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  151. SFG says:
    @Anon
    Articles flogging "White America's" death/decline/recent illness/case of the sniffles aren't about what they claim to be about. The purpose of such publishings isn't to investigate or analyze anything, just to gather up a "Hail ants" project for the sniveling Trotskycons and amnestycons writing & reading the verbiage as a way of (not very credibly) dissociating themselves from said whiteness, once the heavy Shiite starts going down; if all you have is a gabbing gift, best to advertise that fact beforehand. These folks live in far greater acute fear of rolling NAM insurrection than any alt-right bowl-haircutted IT administrator blaring Tay Swift from his Bluetooth speaker could muster on Cinco De Mayo. Also, insulation from reality seems to be a hazard of steady tithing to the meritocracy religion.

    I always wondered about that. Do they really think the NAM mob breaking down the doors is going to spare them because Jews are liberal? “I’m not white, I’m Jewish!” Remember what happened in NYC as blacks took over formerly-Jewish neighborhoods? Freddie’s Fashion Mart comes to min, but there are countless other examples. (Stuff like that is the reason my mom was actually sympathetic to Afrikaners after the fall…)

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    Poll after poll shows that Hispanics embrace anti-semitism more than any other group. Since there hasn't been much violence from Hispanics to Jews they probably don't view them as a threat.

    The irony is that it's Gentiles that keep a lid on anti-semitism. Blacks & Hispanics would be openly anti-Semitic without these constraints. Asians would be indifferent.
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  152. I got a phone call from my only relative yesterday, a recently retired military complex contractor. His father my cousin was in that same business – a civilian military contractor,he had fought in WWII in the artillery. He got RIFFed from various gigs over the years. I remember that he tended Nike rockets just west of Riis Park. His and his brother’s TV repair shop failed, his brother became an EE and retired from Ratheon, having worked for GE in Erie. Our family were Brooklyn jews. Actually Mark called to see if I could supply any geneaological tidbits, I’m 83, he is in his 60s, and has retired to Orlando where 1 or both sons live.
    So I asked who he had voted for. He voted Hillary and was very angry about the election but he could not articulate why. He did say that he was embarrassed as to what Europeans must think of us (for having elected Trump). He worked mostly at a USAF base in Germany over the years.

    David Brooks is glib and expresses his mentation competently winging it scriptlessly. I watched him last night. I read that his son is or was a Lone Soldier in the Israeli army.There is an interesting non-fiction account of this training which I read but forget the name of. The American volunteer may know some Hebrew for having been sent to Hebrew-speaking summer camps. It is very difficult to learn this language for a native English speaker and at the same time keep up with the training which apparently is basic training for 2 years. The motivation to volunteer is the same as that of real American youths. Why not the USArmy? Well I was in the US army for the 6 months/6 years in reserves plan in 1957. My cousin’s WW II US Army was in wartime. My service was peacetime so all-in-all my army service was a hoot: SC for basic, Baltimore for 4 months of an “intelligence analyst” course. US Army’s status today is somewhere north of peacetime. To volunteer to become a Lone Soldier in the Israeli army is to test one’s balls as a man more than by joining the US Army. That army is more or less permanently at war, for Brooks’ son to have taken this step seems in high contrast to David Brooks who is clearly not sportif. My cousin’s father used to brag that he didn’t wait to be drafted in 1942. He shippBrooks has an apparently permanent gig at the NYTimes and has written some mid-cult sociological books. His gibe at a dying white America is a conscious provocation. Didn’t Bill Kristol say the same thing recently? But these are just TV/journalism intellectuals about which occupation Richard Posner wrote an entertaining book.

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  153. @Clifford Brown
    Ah, Jennifer Rubin.

    As Mr. Podhoretz of Commentary informed The Atlantic upon her Ascension to The Washington Post:

    "For the past three years, Jennifer Rubin has set this blog and this website afire with her breadth of knowledge, her love of the intricacies of politics, her passion for ideas and policy, and her commitment to principle," Podhoretz wrote. "The living embodiment of the word 'indefatigable,' Jen has labored daily from her home in suburban Virginia, writing early in the morning and late at night, on computer and Blackberry... never missing a news story, never missing an op-ed column, reading everything and digesting everything and commenting on everything."

    His conclusion?

    "She is a phenomenon," Podhoretz wrote. "It is a brilliant hire for them and a terrific loss for us."
     
    To avoid any confusion, even The Atlantic realized that she was a homicidal moron of epic proportions, and that is really saying something.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/the-rights-jennifer-rubin-problem-a-case-study-in-info-disadvantage/264942/

    We can beat these people. Truth and God is on Our Side.

    The Emperor's New Clothes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RXwe-v72rE

    Damn what a strange handle : Clifford Brown. I can still remember the day he was killed on the Pa turnpike, heard it on the car radio while riding with my mom and siblings to a fish and chip restaurant in west Detroit, summer of 56.
    He, Clifford, was one of the greatest. I was just listening a couple of days ago to his Paris concert, with GG Grice, with their marvelous version of ” All the things you are”.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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    Scotty Simpsons ??
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  154. Hibernian says:
    @Desiderius
    Might be a good time to get into the bakery business with all this cake our betters would have us eat.

    That or the guillotine business.

    Maybe the same sex wedding cake business.

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  155. FPD72 says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks' junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]

    If she is marrying a Jew, or any non-Christian for that matter, she is not a “devout Christian.” The New Testament is clear that Christians are to marry only within the faith. While people who become Christians while already married to non-believers are to remain in those relationships, Christians are not to enter into marriage with a non-believer.

    She might well be a Christian in that she has accepted the gift of salvation through faith in Christ; devout she is not.

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  156. SFG says:
    @Mikey Darmody
    Jennifer Rubin is one of the most physically and intellectually repulsive beings of all time. Many people feel bad for her husband because of this.

    Jewish women were never known for their attractiveness…why do you think there’s so much intermarriage?

    (Seriously, I think her ideas are bad enough for the country, and they really should find someone else to do ‘right turn’…she’s on the left under the new battle lines.)

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    That's not really fair. Jewish women vary in attractiveness just like any group. If you google image search Jennifer Rubin then in addition to JR the journalist (who will admittedly never win any beauty contests) there's a JR the actress who is very easy on the eyes (or was in her younger days).
    , @Mr. Anon

    Jewish women were never known for their attractiveness…why do you think there’s so much intermarriage?
     
    I've seen no evidence of that. They seem to me to be as attractive as any other group.
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  157. SFG says:
    @Anonymous

    You can shut down immigration and still encourage internal migration. I’d actually favor it as we are going to need fewer and fewer people as automation advances.
     
    What do you think we have been doing for over 200 years? We have had non-stop internal migration regardless of immigration levels. Recall the phrase, "Go West Young Man".

    True, but a lot of people do seem to get stuck in decaying industrial towns.

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    "True, but a lot of people do seem to get stuck in decaying industrial towns."

    Oftentimes because their families live there - parents for example, who might not be able to move or are disinclined to move, or siblings and extended family who provide an informal social safety net. Despite what jerks like Kevin Williamson think, people might actually have reasons for staying put other than just stubborness and stupidity, which he seems to chalk it up to.
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  158. SFG says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    I think of the "conservative" jews as the jews who drew the short straws at the meeting.

    It’s not that simple. A lot of them wanted to rebel back in the 70s and 80s and now are returning to the left. We may see Jonah Goldberg writing for the Atlantic yet.

    Now they’re being replaced by Orthodox and Stephen Miller-ish types with weak Jewish identities who see themselves as more white than anything else. Trump did worse than Romney and Bush in ’04, but better than Bush in ’00 and McCain.

    The difference with blacks, who usually split 90-10, is that Jews make enough money that lower taxes are actually attractive, so there’s always a conservative minority that wants to pay fewer taxes and isn’t particularly worried about saving the NAMs or the trees.

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    so there’s always a conservative minority that wants to pay fewer taxes and isn’t particularly worried about saving the NAMs or the trees.
     
    Of those Jews that vote Republican, aren't there at least as many who do so for other reasons, such as Israel[1]; law and order/ safety from street thugs; and, especially since 9/11, national security? Don't forget, as well, that many Jews, especially in the public sector, have been victims of affirmative action, losing their jobs to less-qualified Blacks or Latinos/Hispanics. (E.g., public school systems, perhaps most notably New York City's.) There are also at least some Jews, as has been noted in other comments in this thread, who oppose the onslaught of mass third-world immigration. (Again, the number of such Jews has undoubtedly increased after 9/11 and subsequent terrorist attacks in the West.) Finally, there are Jews for whom social/cultural conservatism factors, to varying degrees, into their voting GOP. While most in this latter category are likely Orthodox, not all are. Unz Review's own Paul Gottfried, for example, is certainly someone who seems to appreciate the moral and cultural scourge posed by "LGBTQ" degeneracy (as well, I believe, of Internet pornography).[2]

    For reasons that should be obvious, I find it germane to note that I am an emphatically non-Zionist Orthodox Jew[1] who abhors Cultural Marxism and is vehemently opposed to both the "invade" as well as the "invite" wings of the globalist bird of prey. I also feel a debt of gratitude for the unprecedented kindness and religious tolerance of an overwhelmingly White and Christian America. (While wishing no one any harm merely because of such accidents of birth as race or national, ethnic or religious origin.) My view of individuals such as Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks and Bill Kristol should not be difficult to guess.

    NOTES:
    [1] Or, more properly, the Zionist State that calls itself "Israel". Zionism, from its inception and in all of its forms, was declared a grave violation of Judaism and opposed by a near-unanimous consensus of the foremost rabbinical authorities and Judaic sages. Had their words been heeded, the Zionist State would never have been created. Now that it has, its existence presents a terribly difficult, complicated and ultra-delicate situation for Torah-true Jews. While there are legitimate differences in opinion among bona fide rabbinical authorities on many points concerning the proper approach to take in the matter, far too many of even some of the most otherwise loyal and devout Jews-- including even some great rabbis-- have been led astray by the golden calf of Zionism, causing them to err and stumble in this area.

    [2] Some examples, in addition to Gottfried's piece on Cultural Marxism that I linked above:

    While addressing either his own H.L. Mencken Society or some other gathering of those on what one of the speakers termed the "heretical Right", I heard Gottfried take exception to the conventional (and trite) Republican criticism of Obama as a "Socialist". Being a "socialist", argued Gottfried, is the least of the problems with Obama; "He's a radical!". I do not recall Gottfried's words well enough to be more specific but I do recall that if Gottfried did not explicitly specify that he meant, at least in large part, Obama's unprecedented level of support for the "LGBTQ" agenda (which Gottfried may very well have), then I certainly understood Gottfried to be implying that.

    Another example: I heard Gottfried (in an interview with Kevin Michael Grace, if I recall correctly) in the context of explaining his rejection of White Nationalism, declare that he would not, for example, want to side with homosexuals* against Blacks.

    As for pornography and the like, while there is no instance of Gottfried addressing it explicitly that I can recall or point-to, I can say the following. I do not find it it all inconceivable that someone such as Gottfried may, for all I know, have little-to-no problem with the likes of Playboy. When it comes to the kind of corrosive filth, however, that the Internet has given every child by the age of 12 de facto nearly unrestricted access to-- material that makes the likes of Playboy, by comparison, look downright wholesome-- I have little doubt of Gottfried's concern and even outright disapproval.

    *I feel I should note here that when Gottfried said "homosexuals", I doubt he was referring merely to anyone's personal proclivities or even to their personal behavior, per se-- at least as long as it would remain discreet. Rather, I took Gottfried to be referring-to brazen, buggering, activist Sodomites who tyrannically insist that everyone not merely tolerate, not even merely respect, but actually embrace, celebrate, champion and subsidize their wanton, inordinately disease-promoting degeneracy-- public health; the welfare of confused and vulnerable children; what was the very foundation of society for the entire history of humanity; and religious liberty all be damned. (Not to mention the spilling-over of said degeneracy into heterosexual youth culture.)
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  159. Hibernian says:
    @Robert Hume
    "You know, when I was at Rice U. in Houston from 1976-1980, the city was a magnet for Americans looking for work. Now it’s a magnet for foreigners."

    Similar to the way European immigrants drove out working class wasps from New York City. That led to the working class wasps not being able to take advantage of the cultural infrastructure built up by wealthy wasps, whereas the immigrants were able to.

    Archie Bunker was a WASP, according to Norman Lear. When the family was planning Gloria and Mike’s wedding, Archie didn’t “want a Catholic priest sprinkling incest all over the people.” Years later, as part of Archie Bunker’s Place, it was revealed that his Protestant pastor had a German sounding surname. This was in relation to his discussing with a Catholic priest his concern that Edith might be considering conversion to Catholicism. He told the priest that the Protestant pastor had “made more Catholics out of Protestants than you ever could, Father.”

    “That led to the working class wasps not being able to take advantage of the cultural infrastructure built up by wealthy wasps, whereas the immigrants were able to.”

    Yea, including those Irish who are interested in something more cultural than the racing form. There are a few of us.

    Cities where working class WASPS continued to have a presence: Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, LA, St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, and, to a lesser extent, Chicago. Might be a few museums endowed by rich WASPS in those, don’t you think ?

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    Working class WASP is a contradiction in terms. Baltzell defined WASP to mean the kind of Protestant who lives in "Belmont". Working class whites may be Protestant and even Anglo-Saxon (though more often Scots-Irish, German, etc. mixes) but they are not WASPs.
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  160. Hibernian says:
    @anony-mouse
    Waydaminit.

    Steve chooses to live in LA, not Marion IN. But why?

    And if I went up and down the list of Unz.com contributors, including Unz, which would be greater, the number living in US Metros or US small towns? Given what they write you would assume the latter.

    Of course you would be wrong.

    Yes, US metros are terrible. And such small portions, too.

    At least Rubin is honest about her feelings.

    Living in a major metro area (Chicago for me) is not the same as condemning those who live elsewhere.

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  161. Hibernian says:
    @Prof. Woland
    I cannot even listen to NPR anymore because of the incessant flogging for immigration-refugees-migrants-dreamers-blech. You have to wonder what the vetting process is for working there because the end product is so uniform. Show after show and it is the exact same thing.

    It would behoove the right if they built their own public radio / television network similar to how the left has Pacifica radio. First of all, by making it not for profit it would immediately take it out of the potential control of corporations and the neo-cons which would give it a free hand to cover un-PC issues. It would help incubate potential allies who have legitimate needs but can never get political representation, the two biggest being whites and men. By forcing the alt-right into the mass airwaves, it would make it impossible for the entire rest of the society to ignore the ugly parts of things such as immigration, black and brown dysfunction, reverse discrimination, and hypergamy. Right now, people don't have to notice. It would be like one huge Milo trolling on a national scale.

    Such a network would be a prime target for a Lois Lerner type if the Dems, in anything like their current form, got back into power.

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  162. IA says:

    White Americans SHOULD move back to cities and shift violent non-assimilated elements to camps for the anti-social. That’s gonna to be racist though and I suppose un-American. Also, the whites now living in cities hate hillbilly whites and vice versa.

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  163. biz says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Meanwhile here in Connecticut, we had an Amber Alert today when a previously-deported El Salvadorian man abducted his six-year-old daughter after stabbing her mother to death.

    This happens a day after our glorious governor went of TV last night and claimed he instructed our state police not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities to save money (which is a political lie, of course). This bastard Governor Dannel Malloy has made us a sanctuary state, and now Trump's luck brings us a stabbing murder and kidnapping by one of our precious illegal aliens (future Democrat voter).

    Will this story get any national attention?

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/CT-Amber-Alert-Issued-for-6-Year-Old-Girl-After-Bridgeport-Stabbing-414693153.html

    Interesting – we received this Amber Alert on the radio yesterday many states away. Interestingly, the abductor who we were supposed to be on the lookout for was described by the recording as a, quote, “white Hispanic.” That is not the description I would use after seeing that picture.

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  164. Jack D says:
    @Hibernian
    I went through Pittsburgh on Amtrak about 7 years ago. Sure seemed to be a lot of derelict industrial sites. Of course things can change in 7 years.

    Railroads always run through the oldest industrial section so you can’t judge by the view from the railroad tracks. (Likewise, the airport is usually in a swamp and surrounded by junk yards, etc. – my first view of Rome was on the route from the airport and if you go by that you’d think that Rome was a dump).

    Pittsburgh has been de-industrialized but it has been reborn as a post-industrial city. The biggest sector is health care. This is true in a lot of places. It seems to me that health care is not really a productive sector but what do I know?

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    Healthcare operates as a cost center on the economy, though a profit center for those that work in it.
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  165. Jack D says:
    @Hibernian
    Archie Bunker was a WASP, according to Norman Lear. When the family was planning Gloria and Mike's wedding, Archie didn't "want a Catholic priest sprinkling incest all over the people." Years later, as part of Archie Bunker's Place, it was revealed that his Protestant pastor had a German sounding surname. This was in relation to his discussing with a Catholic priest his concern that Edith might be considering conversion to Catholicism. He told the priest that the Protestant pastor had "made more Catholics out of Protestants than you ever could, Father."

    "That led to the working class wasps not being able to take advantage of the cultural infrastructure built up by wealthy wasps, whereas the immigrants were able to."

    Yea, including those Irish who are interested in something more cultural than the racing form. There are a few of us.

    Cities where working class WASPS continued to have a presence: Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, LA, St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, and, to a lesser extent, Chicago. Might be a few museums endowed by rich WASPS in those, don't you think ?

    Working class WASP is a contradiction in terms. Baltzell defined WASP to mean the kind of Protestant who lives in “Belmont”. Working class whites may be Protestant and even Anglo-Saxon (though more often Scots-Irish, German, etc. mixes) but they are not WASPs.

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    The south is full of working class people who are white, anglo-saxon, and protestant. But, yeah, the term "WASP" was never really applied to the working-class.
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  166. Jack D says:
    @SFG
    Jewish women were never known for their attractiveness...why do you think there's so much intermarriage?

    (Seriously, I think her ideas are bad enough for the country, and they really should find someone else to do 'right turn'...she's on the left under the new battle lines.)

    That’s not really fair. Jewish women vary in attractiveness just like any group. If you google image search Jennifer Rubin then in addition to JR the journalist (who will admittedly never win any beauty contests) there’s a JR the actress who is very easy on the eyes (or was in her younger days).

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    LOL, all right.

    The personality traits of neuroticism, high achievement orientation, and high verbal ability are probaby more important. They can produce high income in a guy but make a girl unpleasant.
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  167. There was a time when there was really no one around to Deconstruct Neocon/Neolib arguments and they basically went unchallenged. Those days are clearly over.

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  168. Stan says:
    @Mikey Darmody
    Jennifer Rubin is one of the most physically and intellectually repulsive beings of all time. Many people feel bad for her husband because of this.

    It is the revolt of the uglies, inbreeding produces a disproportionately ugly race.

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  169. Ed says:
    @SFG
    I always wondered about that. Do they really think the NAM mob breaking down the doors is going to spare them because Jews are liberal? "I'm not white, I'm Jewish!" Remember what happened in NYC as blacks took over formerly-Jewish neighborhoods? Freddie's Fashion Mart comes to min, but there are countless other examples. (Stuff like that is the reason my mom was actually sympathetic to Afrikaners after the fall...)

    Poll after poll shows that Hispanics embrace anti-semitism more than any other group. Since there hasn’t been much violence from Hispanics to Jews they probably don’t view them as a threat.

    The irony is that it’s Gentiles that keep a lid on anti-semitism. Blacks & Hispanics would be openly anti-Semitic without these constraints. Asians would be indifferent.

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    Jews don't seem to target Hispanic culture for deconstruction the way they do European culture.
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  170. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    I wonder if this jackass realizes the only reason Houston had a recent boom (now failing with a failing oil price) is because of the liberal boogeyman of fracking and horizontal drilling.

    It’s interesting how Oil, once one of the most stereotypically ‘American’ professions, has become completely swamped with foreigners on the professional side. White men of this country need not apply to almost all of the majors– just walk around Exxon’s or BP’s headquarters in the Woodlands to see what I mean. Entry level white men are only welcome at the minor companies now, or at most mid-levels. BP is especially egregious in that regard.

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  171. Steve Are you really sure that ExxonMobil isn’t made out of money?

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  172. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    I get the feeling that the real problem isn't that the plebs are dying, but rather, that we are not dying off fast enough for them. This is just another version of Obama's theory of "bitter clingers" foolishly resisting the inevitable brave new world .

    I've long suspected that the elites hate us. The difference now is that they are not even bothering to hide it. Strange days.

    I suspect that part of the angst that Jews like Ruben suffer from comes from knowing that as long as there are “whites”, not only as a significant part of the population but in separate distinct enclaves like Indiana and Michigan, there will continue to be people who came before them who built the Country and laying claim to the culture. She knows Jews were not the chosen people for this land. This is why all the emphasis on extinction and obliteration. Once white people are gone, like the Palestinians, she can feel comfortable and there will be no one left to interfere with the rewriting of the new narrative.

    I suspect that there were and are whites who felt the same thing towards the Native Americans. While whites like me were the first “Americans” we certainly were not the first people here. When people attack the notion of America, they will quickly point out to how Indian lands where taken and slavery because it tarnishes the cherished myth. Of course part of the fear is that the narrative is not over and her part is yet to be written.

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  173. In sum, rather than leave Americans in Rust Belt isolation, with a shriveled job market, it makes sense to encourage and assist them to move to productive areas of the country . . . .

    Steve already said this, but just for emphasis: The way to encourage and assist theme to move to these cities is to stop importing foreigners into those cities to take their place.

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  174. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    "Trump’s message is aimed at Americans who are resentful, feel left behind and are both physically and culturally marginalized."

    Huh? If I want to "physically marginalize" you, what do I have to do to you?

    I think she’s saying they live in the middle of nowhere. The majority of the country’s land being of course “marginal” compared to the tiny blue archipelago

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  175. @Dave Pinsen
    They're Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.

    They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.

    I have no idea who Horowitz i, but Stephen Steinlight is indistinguishable from Brooks and Rubin. He thinks white immigration restrictionists are “vile”, and he explicitly admits that his opposition to immigration is based on the only permissible justification: He thinks it’s good for the Jews.

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  176. @Rod1963
    Breitbart will probably be the one to make it happen. The owner of BB is a multi-billionaire and apparently doesn't give a rats ass about the Left and he doesn't have to beg for money like many others do on the alt-right.

    If Breitbart ever gets on (and I agree, that out of the alt-right they are best positioned to do it) the MSM is will occur in one of two ways. Either they will have a show that is on the MSM similar to how the WSJ has one, or they will start a network; the first being far more likely. I think we are already seeing this with Tucker Carlson getting on the air after his stint with the Daily Caller, a blog that is Breitbart light.

    It would be extremely expensive and fought against furiously but it is the next logical step. The interesting thing is that the content is easily harvest able. The reason the right on the internet is so much more interesting than the left is that it is still virgin territory. There are still so many more taboos to break and things to uncover whereas the left is out of ideas. It is just the piercing of the media veil that is standing in the way. The reason a not for profit model like Pacifica would be ideal is that it would cost far less than network television. All it would take is hundreds of millions, something the right could conjure up easily.

    By the way, our Steve should be on the air on a regular basis. I don’t know if he would give good TV but he would certainly cause a stink.

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    Would a rightist Pacifica radio network have as many purges and backstage dramas as the leftwing Pacifica does?

    Yeah, probably.

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  177. @Steve Sailer
    The minivan suburban lifestyle is a lot easier, especially with a second child. The best version is dad takes the train to the city, although it is expensive to live near a train station.

    President Trump’s golf club in New Jersey is near the end of the railroad line that goes to New York City. About 50 miles west into New Jersey. President Trump’s golf club used to be a fox hunting club.

    Car wheels on a gravel road ain’t just a song from Lucinda Williams. Old money in New Jersey likes gravel roads.

    Paul Gigot, editorial page editor of the Wall Street Journal, irritates me more than David Brooks or Jennifer Rubin, and Gigot ain’t no Jew. I must say, though, in defense of Gigot, he did publish an immigration skeptical opinion article in the Wall Street Journal from two Swedish political leaders.

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  178. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Achilles
    Interestingly, one is beginning to see a small split in the NeverTrump coalition that has been playing out in the contrived and semantic debate over "nationalism" vs "patriotism."

    The Jewish Neocons are the most hardline and absolutist about mass Third World immigration and take the position, often with little subtlety, that an affection for and bias in favor of the American nation-state is Nazi-ism and anyone who resists the large-scale dilution and de facto ethnic cleansing of natural born Americans with immigrants from Third World cultures is at least bordering on being a Nazi if not one outright.

    At National Review this has been the position of Jonah Goldberg, who approves of American "patriotism" as defined by him as being an attachment to certain universalist propositions extracted from the founding documents of the Federal government, but who disapproves of American "nationalism," again as he defines it, and denies the legitimacy of notions like an American "people" or an American "nation." David Brooks, Jennifer Rubin and numerous other Jewish Neocons are also in this camp. That these universalist propositions they claim to be so fond of were the product of the cultural history of a particular people is a point they try to ignore.

    Now recently we have been seeing Rich Lowry and Ramesh Ponnuru starting to slowly back away from the Goldberg position, which position frankly can be described not unfairly as anti-Americanism. The former see the existence of a benign strain of nationalism in America which is healthy and not problematic for the body politic.

    National Review's Victor Davis Hanson distanced himself from the Goldberg position some time ago, ever since it became clear that Trump was likely to win the Republican nomination. For a long time before that Hanson has written books and articles about the many problems in California caused by unrestricted immigration.

    Another interesting data point was Charles Murray making a U-turn recently and conceding that maybe the citizens of a nation do indeed owe something to each other over and above what they owe to others in the world, and coming out for a pause in low-skilled immigration in order to benefit the American working class.

    The obligations Murray was referring to is nothing other than American self-government, and in fact I suggest that this is what the hardline Jewish Neocons are against. Self-government is when the people of a community, such as a nation-state, control the machinery of government in order to secure what is explicitly considered to be their own self-interest. When other interests, such as internationalist Marxists or globalist business interests, manage to coopt the machinery of government to serve their own interests, self-government is thwarted.

    More people may be beginning to recognize, if not willing to say out loud, that there is an ethnic dynamic at work with the Jewish part of the Neocons. They will never give up this position no matter how dangerous and damaging to the American people because it is bound up in their own blinkered identity and self-conception and neuroses and particlar history in Eastern Europe.

    I gave up NR a decade ago, but this explains why Jonah Goldberg is accepted as the house conservative on NPR…

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  179. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Archie Bunker was a WASP, according to Norman Lear.”

    Archie Bunker was a fictitious TV character.

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    Norman Lear based Archie Bunker on his father, who apparently wasn't much of a progressive in the contemporary mold. Lear intended Archie to be the butt of every joke, and was mildly appalled to discover that he soon acquired a fan base.
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  180. Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America . . . .

    Every rapist who comes is a vote of confidence in his victim — confidence that she has resources he can convert to his own use and benefit.

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  181. SFG says:
    @Jack D
    That's not really fair. Jewish women vary in attractiveness just like any group. If you google image search Jennifer Rubin then in addition to JR the journalist (who will admittedly never win any beauty contests) there's a JR the actress who is very easy on the eyes (or was in her younger days).

    LOL, all right.

    The personality traits of neuroticism, high achievement orientation, and high verbal ability are probaby more important. They can produce high income in a guy but make a girl unpleasant.

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  182. SPMoore8 says:
    @Autochthon

    Trump's policies ... seeks....
     
    I make a hojillion typographical errors in this forum a week, but I'm just a schlub with a day job and a shitty commute seeking intelligent interaction via his telephone; my briefs and memoranda, nevermind the stuff I have published in professional and academic journals, are impeccable, not because I am infallible, but because I proofread them.

    What gives with these ostensibly professional writers? They are literally professional writers, not, like me, professionals writing; their whole damned job is to write! Yet they cannot make their subjects and verbs agree. I see this stuff constantly anymore. It used to go without saying that if you wanted to, say, write for the New York Times, you had to actually be a competent – indeed, an excellent – writer (mere competency maybe landed you at, say, the Indianapolis Star).

    I suppose it's all another manifestation of our not being able to have nice things anymore....


    ...they might learn that immigrants aren’t out to steal their jobs or murder their kids....
     
    I can attest first hand they sure as Hell are out to steal your stuff, if not your job, and to assault you, if not murder your kids....

    “I see this stuff constantly anymore.” — That’s a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.

    You can sure that the Washington Post has copy editors and editors above Jennifer Rubin who sign off on everything she writes. As noted, subject verb agreement is an issue not only because of the ubiquitous “they” (not talking about Gomez, right now) which can be s. or p. but also because there is apparently a British tradition that is different from ours.

    The writings of the elites always surprise me with their arrogance and flippancy with regard to how actual people live their lives. Like the gal who wrote a column complaining about how there were too many deer in the Northeast (after she hit one) or the gal at the Wall Street Journal, decades ago, who said that some executive who was unemployed had only himself to blame for not relocating because he insisted on living close to his mother. Her solution: just put her in the trunk and move. This kind of stuff doesn’t make me angry but it does remind me that these people are basically clueless, in human terms, about life in general.

    Okay, I’ll bite. Let’s send all the unemployed Americans who can’t get a job or get ahead in life so they can have a home and raise a family and send them to whatever metropolis she lives in. Along with certifiable vibrancy, there will also be all the problems with urban sprawl. But don’t worry, the government will solve all of that.

    As someone also already noted, there really is a “let them eat cake” mentality at work here.

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    “I see this stuff constantly anymore.” — That’s a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.
     
    I caught that too!

    I still find myself saying things like, "The biscuits is all," or "Oh, I spent the day piddling/ramming around." "Parrot wants up." "Hey, outen the light." "Why you so all het up?" "The tomatoes are droopy, must spritz." "I plumb forgot." "Not too hungry, just for butterbread/dippybread." "Why you so gretzy today?"

    When I was very young and encountered Yiddish among Jews, a lot of it was familiar.

    The people hinnersick were. Ferhoodled also.

    , @Autochthon
    Heh. I did not know that (the Pennsylvanian Dutch business); my father, rest his soul, was from Philadelphia, so I expect I picked the construction up from him.

    Other endearing constructions he taught me include:

    "Ah, go sh¡t in your hat!"

    "Sh¡t or get off the pot!"

    (Dad was famously impatient with bad drivers....)

    "You could have at least told me to go to Hell!" [When a person did not thank him for something for which politeness dictated thanks were in order or when someone did not answer or a acknowledge a question.]

    He is the last person I knew who said "Chinaman" matter-of-factly as a demonym, with no malice at all.

    And, lastly, of my mother, when she dilly-dallied (he liked to say "dilly-dally," too):

    "You fart around, and you fart around all day!"

    #stuffmydadsaid

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  183. Svigor says:

    I thought this was kind of funny:

    I will leave the Democrats if Keith Ellison is elected its chairman

    There has been powerful push from the hard-left of the Democratic Party, led by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), to elect Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) chairman. If he is elected, I will quit the party after 60 years of loyal association and voting. I will become an independent, continuing to vote for the best candidates, most of whom, I assume, will still be Democrats. But I will not contribute to the DNC or support it as an institution.

    My loyalty to my country and my principles and my heritage exceeds any loyalty to my party. I will urge other like-minded people — centrist liberals — to follow my lead and quit the Democratic Party if Ellison is elected chairman. We will not be leaving the Democratic Party we have long supported. The Democratic Party will be leaving us!

    Let me explain the reasons for this difficult decision.

    Dersh goes on to list Keith Ellison’s anti-Semitic, anti-Israel credentials, followed by some non-specific warnings that the Dems are moving too far left. Apparently Dersh’s loyalty to his country is indistinguishable in any way from his loyalty to the Jewish tribe, and the Jewish ethno-state.

    But I could be misinterpreting Dersh; he could very well mean Israel, when he says “my country.” The more I think about it, the less reason I have to think otherwise.

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  184. Svigor says:

    Working class WASP is a contradiction in terms.

    Anything to make the term even stupider than it was before, I guess.

    The “White” part is redundant, all Anglo-Saxons are White, it’s just there to put the “W” into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    The “Protestant” part is redundant, Protestantism is the (at least background) religion of the Anglo-Saxons, it’s just there to put the “P” into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    Now Jack insists that it must refer to something not included in the name, high social class.

    So now it doesn’t actually refer to Anglo-Saxons, either.

    Perfectly in keeping, I say.

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    WASP always included non-Anglo Saxons, such as the old Dutch families of NY, some Germans (Baltzell himself), some Huguenot French, Scots, Welsh, Swedes, etc.
    , @Dissident

    name of a nasty insect.
     
    Why did the bee wear a yarmulke?

    He didn't want to be mistaken for a WASP.
    , @Father O'Hara
    I guess the forgotten Jew who came up with WASP could've decided the W was redundant, leaving the term ASP. Probably didn't want to be so openly hostile. Plus,deriding people as vipers,well,could lead down an uncomfortable path.
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  185. Mr. Anon says:
    @SFG
    Jewish women were never known for their attractiveness...why do you think there's so much intermarriage?

    (Seriously, I think her ideas are bad enough for the country, and they really should find someone else to do 'right turn'...she's on the left under the new battle lines.)

    Jewish women were never known for their attractiveness…why do you think there’s so much intermarriage?

    I’ve seen no evidence of that. They seem to me to be as attractive as any other group.

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  186. SFG says:
    @Achilles

    While there are obviously some Jewish intellectuals that favor immigration restriction, on net, they are disproportionately in favor of open borders by a large margin.
     
    Unfortunately all too true.

    In respect of numbers, the large majority of Jews in America are indisputably liberals.

    Beyond liberals, hard-left Jews far outnumber neoconservative Jews.

    And then fourthly we have conservative Jews who identify with, and are not alienated from, their white gentile friends and neighbors and who have no difficulty viewing themselves as a part of an American people or an American nation.

    I would argue that in this fourth category we have the best of the Jews, like Stephen Miller and David Horowitz. And we have a few foreign friends like Netanyahu. I have been glad to know a number of U.S. military officers in this category. Unfortunately, in recent history this has been the smallest group and with the least influence. We have had Jews within this fourth category going all the way back to colonial days, but they often tended to freely intermarry with non-Jewish Americans and then sort of vanish into the pool of generic Americans.

    One conclusion I have reached about neocon Jews is that their irrational, usually latent, hostility to white gentile Americans derives from an unwillingness to disturb comfortable psychological crutches not well-grounded in reality that they habitually rest on in order to maintain a sense of moral superiority.

    One reason I admire David Horowitz is that once he had his second thoughts, far from backsliding, he rather forged fearlessly ahead and turned his penetrating gaze on his own roots and background with unflinching honesty. Unflinching, but not unsentimental or unaffectionate.

    but they often tended to freely intermarry with non-Jewish Americans and then sort of vanish into the pool of generic Americans.

    I think you hit the nail on the head. A (non-neocon) right-leaning Jew is going to have a harder time finding a Jewish partner, and has much less reservation about marrying a non-Jew. Intermarriage rates are quite high as is, and Mencius Moldbug types without huge amounts of free time and independent income to start a long-winded blog probably just marry a nice shiksa and do their thing, with the only real legacy of their ancestry being slightly larger noses among the professional class of the Northeast.

    Also, such types, whatever their frequency, are much less likely to enter politics or opinion journalism. If they see themselves as Americans first, they’re not going to write articles on ‘the Jewish perspective on X’. Given their ancestry and views, they don’t fit comfortably on the MSM or the growing alt-right, so they’re more likely to say ‘politics is bunk’ or ‘both sides stink’ and apply their efforts elsewhere.

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  187. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D
    Working class WASP is a contradiction in terms. Baltzell defined WASP to mean the kind of Protestant who lives in "Belmont". Working class whites may be Protestant and even Anglo-Saxon (though more often Scots-Irish, German, etc. mixes) but they are not WASPs.

    The south is full of working class people who are white, anglo-saxon, and protestant. But, yeah, the term “WASP” was never really applied to the working-class.

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  188. Mr. Anon says:
    @SFG
    True, but a lot of people do seem to get stuck in decaying industrial towns.

    “True, but a lot of people do seem to get stuck in decaying industrial towns.”

    Oftentimes because their families live there – parents for example, who might not be able to move or are disinclined to move, or siblings and extended family who provide an informal social safety net. Despite what jerks like Kevin Williamson think, people might actually have reasons for staying put other than just stubborness and stupidity, which he seems to chalk it up to.

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  189. mukat says: • Website

    When Brooks, Rubin, Stephens and Kristol say “Die, Whites, Die” it’s not a threat – it means “The, Whites, The.” See link.

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    We've seen this recently from Brooks, Kristol, Rubin, David Marcus, Kevin Williamson, Tim Wise. What did Stephens say? Are there any others spreading this eliminationst hatred?
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  190. I was born and raised in Houston. I am 38 years old and with the exception of a 5 year hiatus, have lived here my entire life. I like Mexico and I like Mexicans. Having said that, what has happened in this area because of population growth is disgusting. When I was a child you could get on I45 at downtown and be out of the city inside 10 miles. That still is technically the case but the sprawl, do entirely to population growth, effectively means you have to travel past Huntsville, 70 miles away, before you reach the countryside. Future generations will curse us for our rape of the land!

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  191. @Ed
    Poll after poll shows that Hispanics embrace anti-semitism more than any other group. Since there hasn't been much violence from Hispanics to Jews they probably don't view them as a threat.

    The irony is that it's Gentiles that keep a lid on anti-semitism. Blacks & Hispanics would be openly anti-Semitic without these constraints. Asians would be indifferent.

    Jews don’t seem to target Hispanic culture for deconstruction the way they do European culture.

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    "Jews don’t seem to target Hispanic culture for deconstruction the way they do European culture."

    They don't see it as a threat.
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  192. To the censors who repeatedly cancel my harmless postings :

    FUCK YOU , YOU SMALL-MINDED ASSHOLES.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973 and pro jazz artist.

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    I qualified for and joined Mensa when I was 17. I went to a few meetings and decided I didn't want to hang with these people. Still don't.

    Test-taking smart ain't all it's cracked up to be. See our ruling classes for a plethora of examples.
    , @Autochthon
    Shouldn't you be on tbe road with Al Di Meola or in tbe studio with Najee instead of farting around on Steve's site all the time? I mean, what with you being such an ingenious (nor to mention authentic!) jazzman and all...?
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  193. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    (((David Brooks))). (((Jennifer Rubin))). Every. Damn. Time.

    I’m confused…

    What’s the meaning of all these tiny triple parenthesis framing their names?

    Are they some kind of earthquake survivors?

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    I think it means that their bullshit is broadcast in stereo (where available).

    And closed-captioned for the hearing impaired.
    , @Langley
    "What’s the meaning of all these tiny triple parenthesis framing their names?"

    Three standard deviations from normal.
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  194. res says:
    @e
    You might be interested in tonight's Tucker Carlson interview of the mayor of Hartford.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFf1O4x5as

    I like his approach of asking pointed questions then mostly letting his interviewees talk while interjecting more pointed questions/redirects. Two questions come to mind though.
    1. Do people who are more sympathetic to the interviewee see how inane their responses usually are?
    2. How long will Tucker be able to get people like that to come on his show? (perhaps that is the upside of dealing with true believer types though)

    Regarding that specific interview, does anyone know how that mayor managed to reconcile “sanctuary city” with still deporting criminal illegal immigrants?

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  195. Svigor says:

    Keepin’ it classy, I can see.

    It’s possible Trump will wreak havoc

    We didn’t keep it classy in WWII, and we certainly wreaked a lot of havoc.

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  196. Svigor says:

    I make a hojillion typographical errors in this forum a week, but I’m just a schlub with a day job and a shitty commute seeking intelligent interaction via his telephone; my briefs and memoranda, nevermind the stuff I have published in professional and academic journals, are impeccable, not because I am infallible, but because I proofread them.

    What gives with these ostensibly professional writers?

    Amen. I comment for free, and my output is superior to what I have come to expect from The New York Times, The Washington Post, etc. The decline in standards at Big Media has been pretty dramatic. They’ve moved left, so there’s that.

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  197. Svigor says:

    In respect of numbers, the large majority of Jews in America are indisputably liberals.

    I dispute that. The overwhelming majority of American Jews are “leftist Zionists,” something quite different from genuine leftists. Picture an American “leftist” of German extraction who makes exceptions for everything he claims to believe when it comes to Nazi Germany, and you’re in the ball park.

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  198. Svigor says:

    They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.

    The ranks of open-borders fanatics are much more Jewish, and less White, than the ranks of borders patriots. Do you (or Kong) dispute this?

    Exit poll say 71% of Jews who voted pulled the lever for Clinton. Do you dispute this?

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  199. @anonymous
    "They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs."

    But whose views are more common among Jews? It's a relevant point.

    “They’re Jewish, as are Mickey Kaus, Daniel Horowitz, and Stephen Steinlight, whose views on immigration are 180 degrees opposed to theirs.”

    But whose views are more common among Jews? It’s a relevant point.

    The question is, which view has the support of the organized Jewish community and its vast resources?

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  200. @Johann Ricke

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.
     
    This could have been reworded without any of the anti-semitic overtones:

    The wealthy elites agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of Americans are barely better off than serfs
     

    This could have been reworded without any of the anti-semitic overtones:

    The wealthy elites agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of Americans are barely better off than serfs

    Yes, if you weren’t concerned with its truth value.

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  201. We used to have great INTERNAL migrations that facilitated demographic churning, making better use of the labor we had. Perhaps the most successful economic assimilation of black (and many poor Southern white) Americans took place precisely during the years of lowest–even nonexistent–immigration, from the height of the Depression to the end of the post-war boom. Funny how the economic arguments are all very equivocal, or superficially pro-immigration, yet the historical evidence shows how much the formation of the multi-ethnic American middle class *coincided*with immigration lulls.

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=the+great+migration&*

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    Foreign immigration is intended to reverse the results of the internal Great Migration.
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  202. @Clifford Brown
    Ah, Jennifer Rubin.

    As Mr. Podhoretz of Commentary informed The Atlantic upon her Ascension to The Washington Post:

    "For the past three years, Jennifer Rubin has set this blog and this website afire with her breadth of knowledge, her love of the intricacies of politics, her passion for ideas and policy, and her commitment to principle," Podhoretz wrote. "The living embodiment of the word 'indefatigable,' Jen has labored daily from her home in suburban Virginia, writing early in the morning and late at night, on computer and Blackberry... never missing a news story, never missing an op-ed column, reading everything and digesting everything and commenting on everything."

    His conclusion?

    "She is a phenomenon," Podhoretz wrote. "It is a brilliant hire for them and a terrific loss for us."
     
    To avoid any confusion, even The Atlantic realized that she was a homicidal moron of epic proportions, and that is really saying something.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/the-rights-jennifer-rubin-problem-a-case-study-in-info-disadvantage/264942/

    We can beat these people. Truth and God is on Our Side.

    The Emperor's New Clothes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RXwe-v72rE

    Clifford is just envious because Jennifers” has set her blog and Commentary’s website afire with her breadth of knowledge, her love of the intricacies of politics, her passion for ideas and policy, and her commitment to principle.”

    Any other desperate American co-housewife could have done the same, if she only had that special fire-setting abilities of Rubin…

    Don’t hate, appreciate!

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  203. bomag says:
    @Dumbo
    I think the globalist elites (and many useful idiots) believe that everybody thinks like them. That is, moving from one place to another after depleting all its resources is the best way to live. Since deracination works for them, it must work for everybody.

    But moving from one city to another in search of jobs may be fun for a minority, but for most people it's a) expensive or even unaffordable, b) lonesome as you lose your family connections, c) puts you at a disadvantage with the locals, especially if there's a lot of immigration increasing the labour force and driving down wages.

    Also, maybe for some people making more money is not the main objective, maybe for some it is more important having family and friends nearby, or to be able to live in the place where you were born.

    From one of the commenters at Rubin's article:

    MSmarts
    6:36 PM EST
    Exactly. And if a town disappears, we should make the land a park. Our national parks are central to our American identity, good for our health, and great for international tourism.
     
    No comment...

    c) puts you at a disadvantage with the locals, especially if there’s a lot of immigration increasing the labour force and driving down wages.

    This highlights what a remarkable support system has been established for foreign immigrants to this country. There are multitudes of welcoming committees; advocacy groups; and lawyers dedicated to immigration; not to mention the informal groups such as Ethiopians working in airports and Indian tech workers.

    The legal aspect flabbergasts me. Myself and some business groups I’m in have to really scrape to get any legal work done; and cases linger for years. Yet here are immigrants, getting federal judges et al to do their bidding.

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  204. Bleuteaux says:
    @newrouter

    In sum, rather than leave Americans in Rust Belt isolation, with a shriveled job market, it makes sense to encourage and assist them to move to productive areas of the country, which in many cases means a more urban environment.
     
    Writing from near Pittsburgh: I find pundits who use "Rust Belt" nearly 40 years after Big Steel's collapse "bubble" ignorant. There may be a few derelict manufacturing facility here and there but for the most part all the old manufacturing facilities have been scrapped. For example on the southside of Pittsburgh the former LTV Steel mill is now a mixed use area of shops and housing. The only thing remaining of LTV site is the tunnel that Pgh & Lake Erie RR built now used by CSX RR. The LTV site across the Monogahela is now used by Uber and CMU. Same with USS Homestead works of strike notoriety. The whole site is mixed use commercial, residential recreational.(US Steel has an office there).

    Since Big Steel's collapse, there hasn't a big boom in any area of industry but there hasn't been any collapse either. We have fracking, Uber/Google/CMU, healthcare, steel (it is memorable to cross the Geo Westinghouse bridge on certain mornings and see the steam emanating from USX Edgar Thomson plant.).

    Mostly what clowns like Rubin don't want to understand is that the idiot regulations put out by the federal gov't during the last 8 years are the problem. I used to do air pollution monitoring maintenance at 2 local power plants that burned coal. One has been shut down and the other has been forced to install a scrubber. For what gain? The air isn't much cleaner(2010-2017) but jobs are gone. The administrative state has crashed into the wall of" diminishing returns".
    So. I'm happy that Pres. Trump is taking on the regulatory state. Give 'em hell Donald.

    Can’t speak for Pittsburg, but in my areas of the Rust Belt (not Michigan), the abandoned factories are still here. Abandoned factories, abandoned warehouses, abandoned everything. I do not understand why they aren’t torn down. Some could be rehabed. Most are a disaster.

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    A lot of them are "brownfields" full of unknown bad stuff. You buy them and you are now on the hook for God knows what in remediation costs, asbestos lawsuits, etc.
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  205. @Maj. Kong
    The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics aren't much different in regards to mass immigration.

    On a day-to-day basis, it probably matters more than some bicoastal Jewish writers whose names are likely unfamiliar to 90% of the electorate.

    The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics aren’t much different in regards to mass immigration.

    But they’re followers, not leaders. People like Brooks and Rubin-Erdely are the leaders.

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    So "The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics" that "Maj. Kong" characterized as being "[not] much different in regards to mass immigration." as the likes of Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, et al., are simply following the lead of Jews like the aforementioned?

    You actually believe that?

    The so-called "mainline" Protestant churches have been more or less full-SJW for how many decades now?

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, weren't the bishops at least heavily SJW starting from long before the current Pope?

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  206. Bleuteaux says:
    @Barnard
    National Review's writers really buy into what I would call the education is magic theory. You can take anyone from any background or intelligence level and with the right schools and training turn that person into a doctor or engineer. They seem to understand this doesn't hold true for other areas like music or athletic ability, it only works in education.

    Thomas Frank (sorry if anybody’s triggered by that name) has a few excellent chapters on this subject in his new book. Whether any other liberals will get red pilled on the subject, I’m not optimistic.

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  207. @Dan Hayes
    Maj. Kong:

    How dare you disparage our patron and benefactor who as editor/publisher enables
    the survival and flourishing of our country's traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    How dare you disparage our patron and benefactor who as editor/publisher enables the survival and flourishing of our country’s traditional ethnoreligious majority.

    Let’s not confuse support for heterodox opinion and open discussion of conservative policies with actual support of all of those policies themselves. Ron Unz takes credit for stopping immigration restriction in the 1990s.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-conventional-wisdom-in-a-nutshell/#comments

    Taking the risk that some of you may eventually have me tortured or assassinated, I should probably mention that I personally was the individual who shifted the immigration issue in the mid-1990s around the time of the Pete Wilson/Prop. 187 campaign. If not for me, I’m pretty sure immigration would have been closed down at that point.

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  208. EriK says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Anon:

    David Brooks and his character sermonizing brings to mind another blowhard; William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored "Book of Virtues".

    William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored “Book of Virtues”

    He didn’t write it, he edited it. Please explain.

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    EriK:

    Regarding the Book of Virtues, Sam Francis (VDare, 8 May 2003) stated that the New Yorker reported that "The whole tome was really the work of a ghostwriter who got a cut of Mr. Bennett's immense royalties."
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  209. Bleuteaux says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Speaking of marriage, someone here mentioned that David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.” XXX, 23 years Brooks' junior, is a devout Christian.

    [Steve here: I'm going to edit out the URL link to the private life stuff, interesting as it certainly is.]

    Come on, Steve! It took me about 30 seconds to find a politico story that says that as of about 24 months ago, she lived in HOUSTON! How is that not the most perfect thing we’re gonna find all month? I guess we know why he brought up Houston, now!

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  210. Actually guys, the future Mrs. Brooks does live in Houston!

    https://www.cpjustice.org/index.php/public/page/content/anne_snyder

    (From other online bios and her photo, she may be partly Asian)

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  211. @Jordafrass
    We used to have great INTERNAL migrations that facilitated demographic churning, making better use of the labor we had. Perhaps the most successful economic assimilation of black (and many poor Southern white) Americans took place precisely during the years of lowest--even nonexistent--immigration, from the height of the Depression to the end of the post-war boom. Funny how the economic arguments are all very equivocal, or superficially pro-immigration, yet the historical evidence shows how much the formation of the multi-ethnic American middle class *coincided*with immigration lulls.

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=the+great+migration&*

    Foreign immigration is intended to reverse the results of the internal Great Migration.

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    The Civil Rights Movement had a similar motivation, in part.
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  212. dr kill says:
    @Barnard
    National Review's writers really buy into what I would call the education is magic theory. You can take anyone from any background or intelligence level and with the right schools and training turn that person into a doctor or engineer. They seem to understand this doesn't hold true for other areas like music or athletic ability, it only works in education.

    The really interesting aspect of your magic of education theory is that it does hold true for the children of all the people the NR writers know; i.e. even if their kids are dumb as rocks the breeding gets them placed for employment.

    I believe the fools at NR actually don’t know any real people, guys cutting a swath from the bottom up on their own.

    This is actually why I am somewhat sympathetic to affirmative action. It takes extraordinary skill and perseverance to push these guys and their selfish spawn aside. Who wouldn’t want a safety net like that?

    Good point about no longer reading NR, that is a longish list these days.

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    This is actually why I am somewhat sympathetic to affirmative action. It takes extraordinary skill and perseverance to push these guys and their selfish spawn aside. Who wouldn’t want a safety net like that?
     
    Do you think affirmative action slots take away from those available for "these guys and their selfish spawn"?
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  213. Olorin says:
    @SPMoore8
    "I see this stuff constantly anymore." -- That's a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.

    You can sure that the Washington Post has copy editors and editors above Jennifer Rubin who sign off on everything she writes. As noted, subject verb agreement is an issue not only because of the ubiquitous "they" (not talking about Gomez, right now) which can be s. or p. but also because there is apparently a British tradition that is different from ours.

    The writings of the elites always surprise me with their arrogance and flippancy with regard to how actual people live their lives. Like the gal who wrote a column complaining about how there were too many deer in the Northeast (after she hit one) or the gal at the Wall Street Journal, decades ago, who said that some executive who was unemployed had only himself to blame for not relocating because he insisted on living close to his mother. Her solution: just put her in the trunk and move. This kind of stuff doesn't make me angry but it does remind me that these people are basically clueless, in human terms, about life in general.

    Okay, I'll bite. Let's send all the unemployed Americans who can't get a job or get ahead in life so they can have a home and raise a family and send them to whatever metropolis she lives in. Along with certifiable vibrancy, there will also be all the problems with urban sprawl. But don't worry, the government will solve all of that.

    As someone also already noted, there really is a "let them eat cake" mentality at work here.

    “I see this stuff constantly anymore.” — That’s a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.

    I caught that too!

    I still find myself saying things like, “The biscuits is all,” or “Oh, I spent the day piddling/ramming around.” “Parrot wants up.” “Hey, outen the light.” “Why you so all het up?” “The tomatoes are droopy, must spritz.” “I plumb forgot.” “Not too hungry, just for butterbread/dippybread.” “Why you so gretzy today?”

    When I was very young and encountered Yiddish among Jews, a lot of it was familiar.

    The people hinnersick were. Ferhoodled also.

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    Went to a birthday party for some Dutchies today. All the food was coming yet.
    , @Dissident

    “Why you so all het up?”
     
    Would you expect any different from folks in these parts? Being irredeemably deplorable "homophobes" and all...
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  214. @Prof. Woland
    If Breitbart ever gets on (and I agree, that out of the alt-right they are best positioned to do it) the MSM is will occur in one of two ways. Either they will have a show that is on the MSM similar to how the WSJ has one, or they will start a network; the first being far more likely. I think we are already seeing this with Tucker Carlson getting on the air after his stint with the Daily Caller, a blog that is Breitbart light.

    It would be extremely expensive and fought against furiously but it is the next logical step. The interesting thing is that the content is easily harvest able. The reason the right on the internet is so much more interesting than the left is that it is still virgin territory. There are still so many more taboos to break and things to uncover whereas the left is out of ideas. It is just the piercing of the media veil that is standing in the way. The reason a not for profit model like Pacifica would be ideal is that it would cost far less than network television. All it would take is hundreds of millions, something the right could conjure up easily.

    By the way, our Steve should be on the air on a regular basis. I don't know if he would give good TV but he would certainly cause a stink.

    Would a rightist Pacifica radio network have as many purges and backstage dramas as the leftwing Pacifica does?

    Yeah, probably.

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    Steve,

    As a long-time listener of WBAI (New York's Pacifica station), I believe that no rightist broadcasting entity could ever even approach the sheer lunacy of their leftist counterpart.
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  215. @mukat
    When Brooks, Rubin, Stephens and Kristol say "Die, Whites, Die" it's not a threat - it means "The, Whites, The." See link.

    We’ve seen this recently from Brooks, Kristol, Rubin, David Marcus, Kevin Williamson, Tim Wise. What did Stephens say? Are there any others spreading this eliminationst hatred?

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  216. Forbes says:
    @Halvorson

    paints U.S. cities as dangerous
     
    Might be helpful for Jennifer to note the time Trump's 79 year old mother was thrown to the ground by a mugger and suffered a brain hemorrhage. It just could be that Trump's interest in protecting city dwellers from random violence is not some elaborate political ploy, but something he actually believes in.

    paints U.S. cities as dangerous

    Chicago has murders exceeding NYC and LA combined. Then there are Baltimore, Memphis, St. Louis, Detroit, Milwaukee, Washington, Oakland, Atlanta, Cleveland, Washington, and a few others that have violent crimes rates 2x-3x that of NYC.

    No “painting” required. Rubin is apparently loath to use facts that might confuse her narrative. Trump has lived through NYC’s 2000+ murders per year, and seen the results of making a city safer with a 90% reduction in murder.

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  217. Dan Hayes says:
    @EriK

    William Bennett and the attempted ghostwriting coverup of his supposedly solo-authored “Book of Virtues”
     
    He didn't write it, he edited it. Please explain.

    EriK:

    Regarding the Book of Virtues, Sam Francis (VDare, 8 May 2003) stated that the New Yorker reported that “The whole tome was really the work of a ghostwriter who got a cut of Mr. Bennett’s immense royalties.”

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    George W. Bush's well-written memoir doesn't cite a ghostwriter per se, but the acknowledgments include a highly effusive paragraph making it clear to anybody paying attention that this guy was the ghost and if you need a ghost, you should definitely consider him because he's good at his job. I thought that was a decent compromise between giving official credit and actively covering up who ghosted the book, the way the Clintons often do.

    Military men usually let their ghostwriters have their name on the cover, but politicians seem averse.

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  218. @Steve Sailer
    Foreign immigration is intended to reverse the results of the internal Great Migration.

    The Civil Rights Movement had a similar motivation, in part.

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  219. Dan Hayes says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Would a rightist Pacifica radio network have as many purges and backstage dramas as the leftwing Pacifica does?

    Yeah, probably.

    Steve,

    As a long-time listener of WBAI (New York’s Pacifica station), I believe that no rightist broadcasting entity could ever even approach the sheer lunacy of their leftist counterpart.

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    1.) Are you surprised that WBAI has survived this long? I've heard talk of it being on the verge of folding for years now. How much longer do you give it?

    2.) Do you ever listen to the Golden Age of Radio (Sundays, 7-9 PM) hosted by Max Schmid?

    For several years already, that's the only time I tune in to BAI. I should probably go back to listening Amy Goodman's Democracy Now! (Hypocrisy Now!), though, if only to hear guests like Jeremy Scahill and Glenn Greenwald.

    3.) Do you recall such BAI luminaries as Bernard White, "Brother Shine" or Eutrice Leed?
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  220. Forbes says:
    @Ragno
    Steve, this isn't the first time you handed Jennifer Rubin a sippy-cup, returned her to her FisherPrice highchair, and told her to keep still until all of the big people had finished talking.

    Maybe you should start restricting yourself to higher-hanging fruit, though. In fact, I'm beginning to wonder if there's any point to critiquing.....you should pardon the phrase.... Legacy Journalism, or whatever's left of it, any longer.

    In fact, I’m beginning to wonder if there’s any point to critiquing…..you should pardon the phrase…. Legacy Journalism, or whatever’s left of it, any longer.

    Critiquing, you say? I don’t think there’s any reason to pay attention to Legacy Journalism–what I call the ankle-biting media. Aside from the fake news produced, the cognitive dissonance over the election, and the shrieking and baying over Trump’s latest tweet, there doesn’t appear to be any actual news reported.

    For the price of a beer in any local tavern, you can avail yourself of similar 3rd rate analysis and 4th rate opinions as the national fish wrap.

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  221. @Dan Hayes
    EriK:

    Regarding the Book of Virtues, Sam Francis (VDare, 8 May 2003) stated that the New Yorker reported that "The whole tome was really the work of a ghostwriter who got a cut of Mr. Bennett's immense royalties."

    George W. Bush’s well-written memoir doesn’t cite a ghostwriter per se, but the acknowledgments include a highly effusive paragraph making it clear to anybody paying attention that this guy was the ghost and if you need a ghost, you should definitely consider him because he’s good at his job. I thought that was a decent compromise between giving official credit and actively covering up who ghosted the book, the way the Clintons often do.

    Military men usually let their ghostwriters have their name on the cover, but politicians seem averse.

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    It's like movie stars with their stunt men. "I did all of my stunts" means "I did one easy one" and "I did most of my stunts" means "I didn't do any."
    , @Dissident

    Military men usually let their ghostwriters have their name on the cover, but politicians seem averse.
     
    If the name is on the cover, is it still a ghost writer?
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  222. Alex123 says:
    @Jake
    Of course Neocons are doubling down. They have thus far gotten away with everything they've done, no matter the destruction they have caused.

    Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews agree on most things. One of those is that they will not be happy about much until the vast majority of white Gentiles are barely better off than serfs.

    Exactly.

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  223. Jack D says:
    @Svigor

    Working class WASP is a contradiction in terms.
     
    Anything to make the term even stupider than it was before, I guess.

    The "White" part is redundant, all Anglo-Saxons are White, it's just there to put the "W" into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    The "Protestant" part is redundant, Protestantism is the (at least background) religion of the Anglo-Saxons, it's just there to put the "P" into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    Now Jack insists that it must refer to something not included in the name, high social class.

    So now it doesn't actually refer to Anglo-Saxons, either.

    Perfectly in keeping, I say.

    WASP always included non-Anglo Saxons, such as the old Dutch families of NY, some Germans (Baltzell himself), some Huguenot French, Scots, Welsh, Swedes, etc.

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  224. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer
    George W. Bush's well-written memoir doesn't cite a ghostwriter per se, but the acknowledgments include a highly effusive paragraph making it clear to anybody paying attention that this guy was the ghost and if you need a ghost, you should definitely consider him because he's good at his job. I thought that was a decent compromise between giving official credit and actively covering up who ghosted the book, the way the Clintons often do.

    Military men usually let their ghostwriters have their name on the cover, but politicians seem averse.

    It’s like movie stars with their stunt men. “I did all of my stunts” means “I did one easy one” and “I did most of my stunts” means “I didn’t do any.”

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  225. Jack D says:

    Every once in a while, someone has a vision of how they would like the nation to be – an industrialized Soviet Union fed by collective agriculture, a Germany with Lebensraum. A vibrant America filled with cheap nannies and takeout ethnic restaurants.

    And then there is a group who stands in the way of that vision. Kulaks, Slavs, old white Americans.

    One way or another, those who stand in the way of a great vision must go.

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  226. Forbes says:
    @Dr. X

    We’re managing in a thousand square feet, but because my husband needs an office, the four of us sleep in the other bedroom.
     
    You're in New York City in a thousand square foot apartment with four people sharing one bedroom? What is this -- 1897?

    What is this — 1897?

    No. I’m pretty certain they’ve got running hot water.

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  227. @(((Owen)))

    traditional ethnoreligious majority.
     
    Ethno-religious?

    Sneaking in a stolen concept there?

    I don't give a fig if our posterity worship YHWH or Wotan or Allah or Quetzalcoatl. Better they be wise than unwise gods, but I don't care which. I care a whole lot that they be *our* posterity.

    Diversity is an unwise god.

    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    You’re a true ignoramus if you believe that all religions are equally compatible with Western civilization.

    Maybe you wouldn’t mind if your daughter ended up wearing a burka in a harem, but I sure as hell would.

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    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    Islam's adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?

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  228. Forbes says:
    @LKM

    His immigration raids are already causing economic disruption in construction and food service industries.
     
    I thought disruption was the ruling caste's favourite word. I thought the whole point of letting in all those Mexican landscapers was that their kids would go to Stanford and invent the next Uber. Or is disruption back to being a bad thing now?

    His immigration raids are already causing economic disruption in construction and food service industries.

    Disruption read as having to pay unskilled labor and dishwashers on-the-books, instead of under the table.

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  229. @Authenticjazzman
    To the censors who repeatedly cancel my harmless postings :

    FUCK YOU , YOU SMALL-MINDED ASSHOLES.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973 and pro jazz artist.

    I qualified for and joined Mensa when I was 17. I went to a few meetings and decided I didn’t want to hang with these people. Still don’t.

    Test-taking smart ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. See our ruling classes for a plethora of examples.

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    >>>>Test-taking smart ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.
    You are correct. The most successful person needs IQ, common sense, and a strong work ethic.
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  230. @Bleuteaux
    Can't speak for Pittsburg, but in my areas of the Rust Belt (not Michigan), the abandoned factories are still here. Abandoned factories, abandoned warehouses, abandoned everything. I do not understand why they aren't torn down. Some could be rehabed. Most are a disaster.

    A lot of them are “brownfields” full of unknown bad stuff. You buy them and you are now on the hook for God knows what in remediation costs, asbestos lawsuits, etc.

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  231. Forbes says:
    @Anon

    David Brooks divorced his wife of 28 years, the one who converted to Judaism for him, and is marrying the research assistant he worked with on his recent book, The Road to Character, a book about “morality and inner life.”
     
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Yeah I remember his whole "character" phase from a couple of years ago. I don't really see him doing that theme any more.

    Brooks’ “Bobos in Paradise” struck me as comedic in his lack of self-awareness. He raises writing about the trivial and mundane to an art form. A style he appears to have mastered.

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    Yeah, Brooks thought the Bobos were funny in their artisanal shirts and free range coffee; I think they are a pox upon the land.
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  232. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Authenticjazzman
    Damn what a strange handle : Clifford Brown. I can still remember the day he was killed on the Pa turnpike, heard it on the car radio while riding with my mom and siblings to a fish and chip restaurant in west Detroit, summer of 56.
    He, Clifford, was one of the greatest. I was just listening a couple of days ago to his Paris concert, with GG Grice, with their marvelous version of " All the things you are".

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    Scotty Simpsons ??

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  233. @Stan Adams
    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    You're a true ignoramus if you believe that all religions are equally compatible with Western civilization.

    Maybe you wouldn't mind if your daughter ended up wearing a burka in a harem, but I sure as hell would.

    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    Islam’s adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?

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    You think they tend to form healthy families ?
    Define healthy .
    , @HA
    "Islam’s adherents tend to form healthy families,..."

    Well, apart from FGM, child brides, polygamy, the dysgenics of cousin marriage, and honor killings, but who cares about that?

    More to the point, Islam’s adherents took the Middle East from being at or near the apex of civilization since civilization began (we're talking Egypt, Babylon, Sumeria, Phoenicia, Assyria, etc., etc.) and in the span of a single millennium turned that unrivaled cultural head start into sand and squalor, where it would still find itself were it not for petrodollars. Admittedly, for the first few centuries they kept the momentum going, you gotta give them that, but that just serves to make the ensuing decline even more remarkable. The European Christians, on the other hand, had no such head start, apart from some crumbling Roman roads and ruins, and in about that same time went from worshipping under oak groves and painting themselves blue to a civilization that far surpassed the Roman empire that they had earlier trashed.

    Oh, and the other cultures of the Middle East also tend to do a good job of forming healthy families, too (though they decided to skip on the polygamy -- can't have everything, I guess). That being said, the blame for that catastrophic turnaround can't be pinned on them.

    , @Jefferson
    Islam’s adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?"

    Pedophilia is decadent and backwards and it's disproportionately a way bigger problem in Muslim countries than in Western countries.

    An 80 year old Muslim man marries a 12 year old girl.

    So Opinionater these are the wholesome PG Islamic family values that you want The West to culturally appropriate right?
    http://louderwithcrowder.com/islamophobia-80-year-old-muslim-marries-12-year-old-bride/

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  234. Forbes says:
    @Jack D
    Railroads always run through the oldest industrial section so you can't judge by the view from the railroad tracks. (Likewise, the airport is usually in a swamp and surrounded by junk yards, etc. - my first view of Rome was on the route from the airport and if you go by that you'd think that Rome was a dump).

    Pittsburgh has been de-industrialized but it has been reborn as a post-industrial city. The biggest sector is health care. This is true in a lot of places. It seems to me that health care is not really a productive sector but what do I know?

    Healthcare operates as a cost center on the economy, though a profit center for those that work in it.

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  235. res says:
    @dr kill
    The really interesting aspect of your magic of education theory is that it does hold true for the children of all the people the NR writers know; i.e. even if their kids are dumb as rocks the breeding gets them placed for employment.

    I believe the fools at NR actually don't know any real people, guys cutting a swath from the bottom up on their own.

    This is actually why I am somewhat sympathetic to affirmative action. It takes extraordinary skill and perseverance to push these guys and their selfish spawn aside. Who wouldn't want a safety net like that?

    Good point about no longer reading NR, that is a longish list these days.

    This is actually why I am somewhat sympathetic to affirmative action. It takes extraordinary skill and perseverance to push these guys and their selfish spawn aside. Who wouldn’t want a safety net like that?

    Do you think affirmative action slots take away from those available for “these guys and their selfish spawn”?

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  236. @Marina
    It's a two bedroom apartment. My husband has a bunch of expensive and toddler unfriendly work equipment, so that, plus storage, take up the second 10x10 bedroom. The larger bedroom has a king bed for us, a twin for the toddler and is soon to get a crib for the impending arrival. It's better than the alternatives (expensive equipment in the toddler accessible living room, toddler sleeping in the living room, etc.) I wouldn't want to do it with middle school children, but it's fine right now. And keeping all the clothes in one room makes putting away laundry very efficient. If we were living here longer we'd wall off the dining area and convert it to a third bedroom and reshuffle.

    If you wall off anything to create a third bedroom in that 1000 sq. ft. apt of yours, the landlord WILL jack up the rent. Get it in writing that it won’t constitute improvement to the structure, thus avoiding additional levy for the cramped living space. Good luck!

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    Oh, we're proud owners of this little tenement, so we're free to do what we want if the board approves. We got a screaming deal on the place, so we can't afford anywhere bigger if we're staying in NYC. The building actually wasn't built until the fifties. Lots and lots of New Yorkers have raised families in places this size. There's an elderly guy in my building who bought his place as a newlywed and raised five kids in it. It's doable, it just suuuuuuucks.
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  237. @Maj. Kong
    You can't discount the ethnic animus that inspires the Jen Rubin's and David Brooks. While they are well-placed in the media hierarchy, I doubt they have a net worth exceeding $10 million, and you aren't "wealthy elite" until you have $100 million+

    To paraphrase the disgusting Tony Blair, we need to be tough on anti-Semitism, and tough on the causes of Anti-Semitism.

    Brooks and Rubin's writings are certainly a cause of the aforesaid. Indeed, the politics of the Jewish community on immigration in the Western countries, is the only thing that would cause ordinary whites to go Cossack and unleash pogroms.

    And that fear of the majority, armed up to their wazoo, going Cossack as before, would be the exact reason as to why she would propagate demographic changes to ensure no reoccurrence of pogroms. And if Rubin is reading Sailer, then you may be certain that your comments will not be ignored. So, don’t be surprised if she doubles down the current double down… Congratulations!

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  238. SPMoore8 says:
    @Olorin

    “I see this stuff constantly anymore.” — That’s a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.
     
    I caught that too!

    I still find myself saying things like, "The biscuits is all," or "Oh, I spent the day piddling/ramming around." "Parrot wants up." "Hey, outen the light." "Why you so all het up?" "The tomatoes are droopy, must spritz." "I plumb forgot." "Not too hungry, just for butterbread/dippybread." "Why you so gretzy today?"

    When I was very young and encountered Yiddish among Jews, a lot of it was familiar.

    The people hinnersick were. Ferhoodled also.

    Went to a birthday party for some Dutchies today. All the food was coming yet.

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  239. Marina says:
    @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    If you wall off anything to create a third bedroom in that 1000 sq. ft. apt of yours, the landlord WILL jack up the rent. Get it in writing that it won't constitute improvement to the structure, thus avoiding additional levy for the cramped living space. Good luck!

    Oh, we’re proud owners of this little tenement, so we’re free to do what we want if the board approves. We got a screaming deal on the place, so we can’t afford anywhere bigger if we’re staying in NYC. The building actually wasn’t built until the fifties. Lots and lots of New Yorkers have raised families in places this size. There’s an elderly guy in my building who bought his place as a newlywed and raised five kids in it. It’s doable, it just suuuuuuucks.

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  240. The reality is this

    Every person who says “they should just move” is fucking stupid. Not just fucking stupid but so incredibly illogically up their own mother fucking ass that they’re irrelevant. First of fucking all – they bitch incessantly about costs and then they expect people to move, typically having a mortgage on a house worth less than they owe on it, and somehow magically find someplace to live. Perhaps a $2200 a month rent isn’t going to fly on a “new in town” income you fucking shit for brain coastal fuckwad assfucks. And beyond that there’s the little problem of effectively creating even more issues for those who can’t immediately move because your fucking moronic solution absolutely destroys – just destroys equity in homes. Which, for fuck’s sake, is how public services are provided that typically provide some help for those at the bottom of the rung who, unless you have a god damn magic wand up your ass aren’t going to be able to afford moving.

    So pretty much – if the goal is to lose elections until demographics catch up – please proceed with this fucking ridiculous bullshit. If the goal is to actually help people – I would recommend removal of head from asshole before you recommend people just move to whatever fucking utopia you prefer at the expense of those who can’t – IE doubling down on creating the same fucking problem again.

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  241. @Kaz
    Americans do have to move. That's just economics.

    There is no point in a city that was a coal boom town decades ago. Or had some manufacturing plant.. We're keeping these people on life support with welfare, it's the only thing that sustains them. Maybe decades later when we've grown out the other developing urban centers across the midwest and southeast we'll go back to West Virginia. But for the time being... just obesity and meth remains.

    You don't have to move to San Francisco or Manhattan, there are hundreds of suburbs/exurbs surrounding many urban centers across the country with plenty of jobs.

    Carpet baggers make America great.

    That's just my opinion though.

    I think the way to fund this is by taxing the ever living fuck out of coastal areas so that mortgage forgiveness can take place and these people can afford to move. I think that’s the fairest way to depopulate these areas by forcibly relocating people in coastal areas and jamming them into the same accommodations those relo’ing could afford instead of creating a new underclass.

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  242. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “So, don’t be surprised if she doubles down the current double down…”

    And sounds so obviously unhinged and hysterical that nobody pays her any attention. There is only so much you can do for crazy people.

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  243. @Forbes
    Brooks' "Bobos in Paradise" struck me as comedic in his lack of self-awareness. He raises writing about the trivial and mundane to an art form. A style he appears to have mastered.

    Yeah, Brooks thought the Bobos were funny in their artisanal shirts and free range coffee; I think they are a pox upon the land.

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  244. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Opinionator
    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    Islam's adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?

    You think they tend to form healthy families ?
    Define healthy .

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    The different generations take care of each other, reproduction at or above replacement, men stick around and support wife or wives and the children, low incidence of substance abuse, children generally well behaved and respectful, lower rates of divorce, daughters tend to be less promiscuous, members generally happy.
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  245. HA says:
    @Opinionator
    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    Islam's adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?

    “Islam’s adherents tend to form healthy families,…”

    Well, apart from FGM, child brides, polygamy, the dysgenics of cousin marriage, and honor killings, but who cares about that?

    More to the point, Islam’s adherents took the Middle East from being at or near the apex of civilization since civilization began (we’re talking Egypt, Babylon, Sumeria, Phoenicia, Assyria, etc., etc.) and in the span of a single millennium turned that unrivaled cultural head start into sand and squalor, where it would still find itself were it not for petrodollars. Admittedly, for the first few centuries they kept the momentum going, you gotta give them that, but that just serves to make the ensuing decline even more remarkable. The European Christians, on the other hand, had no such head start, apart from some crumbling Roman roads and ruins, and in about that same time went from worshipping under oak groves and painting themselves blue to a civilization that far surpassed the Roman empire that they had earlier trashed.

    Oh, and the other cultures of the Middle East also tend to do a good job of forming healthy families, too (though they decided to skip on the polygamy — can’t have everything, I guess). That being said, the blame for that catastrophic turnaround can’t be pinned on them.

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    Neocon propaganda.
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  246. Dissident says:
    @Maj. Kong
    Deindustrialization/population loss began in earnest during the 1970s, spurred on by various causes like the Japanese competition, environmentalism, and the gradual relocation of the military-industrial complex to Southern states (a far longer trend).

    You can see the roots of the decline start in the late 50s, with the collapse of Studebaker and the migration of the auto industry from the city of Detroit out to the suburbs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

    An extreme example, but part of a trend. Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today's China. Some of the out-migration is related.

    Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today’s China.

    Is no one concerned that President Trump’s seemingly reflexive, blanket, unquailified, arbitrary and capricious anti-regulation stance might lead us back to the decidedly undesirable conditions that you describe and others?

    This is not to deny that there are probably plenty of excesses and faults with plenty of regulations. But when I hear things like the President’s directive to all federal agencies that in order to enact any new regulation, they must first repal two existing regulations, I can only cringe. Imagine, as an analogy, a patient who had reasonable cause for believing that he was over-medicated. Would anyone reasonable and prudent suggest that the physician(s) treating/advising such a hypothetical patient operate under a blanket order that before prescribing any new medication, two of the patient’s current medications must be eliminated?

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  247. Dissident says:
    @Maj. Kong
    Deindustrialization/population loss began in earnest during the 1970s, spurred on by various causes like the Japanese competition, environmentalism, and the gradual relocation of the military-industrial complex to Southern states (a far longer trend).

    You can see the roots of the decline start in the late 50s, with the collapse of Studebaker and the migration of the auto industry from the city of Detroit out to the suburbs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

    An extreme example, but part of a trend. Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today's China. Some of the out-migration is related.

    Much of the then-Midwest and Northeast had similar pollution levels to today’s China.

    Is no one concerned that President Trump’s seemingly reflexive, blanket, unqualified, arbitrary and capricious anti-regulation stance might lead us back to the decidedly undesirable conditions that you describe and others?

    This is not to deny that there are probably plenty of excesses and faults with plenty of regulations. But when I hear things like the President’s directive to all federal agencies that in order to enact any new regulation, they must first repeal two existing regulations, I can only cringe. Imagine, as an analogy, a patient who had reasonable cause for believing that he was over-medicated. Would anyone reasonable and prudent suggest that the physician(s) treating/advising such a hypothetical patient operate under a blanket order that before prescribing any new medication, two of the patient’s current medications must be eliminated?

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  248. black sea says:
    @anonymous
    "Archie Bunker was a WASP, according to Norman Lear."

    Archie Bunker was a fictitious TV character.

    Norman Lear based Archie Bunker on his father, who apparently wasn’t much of a progressive in the contemporary mold. Lear intended Archie to be the butt of every joke, and was mildly appalled to discover that he soon acquired a fan base.

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  249. @HA
    "Islam’s adherents tend to form healthy families,..."

    Well, apart from FGM, child brides, polygamy, the dysgenics of cousin marriage, and honor killings, but who cares about that?

    More to the point, Islam’s adherents took the Middle East from being at or near the apex of civilization since civilization began (we're talking Egypt, Babylon, Sumeria, Phoenicia, Assyria, etc., etc.) and in the span of a single millennium turned that unrivaled cultural head start into sand and squalor, where it would still find itself were it not for petrodollars. Admittedly, for the first few centuries they kept the momentum going, you gotta give them that, but that just serves to make the ensuing decline even more remarkable. The European Christians, on the other hand, had no such head start, apart from some crumbling Roman roads and ruins, and in about that same time went from worshipping under oak groves and painting themselves blue to a civilization that far surpassed the Roman empire that they had earlier trashed.

    Oh, and the other cultures of the Middle East also tend to do a good job of forming healthy families, too (though they decided to skip on the polygamy -- can't have everything, I guess). That being said, the blame for that catastrophic turnaround can't be pinned on them.

    Neocon propaganda.

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    No, he's right. Islamic societies are pretty bad. They generate lots of surplus men, among other things.
    , @HA
    "Neocon propaganda."

    See, that's when you know you've cut to the bone -- when that's the best they can do as a comeback.

    But as everyone here knows, neo-cons -- be they Bush or Blair or Cameron -- actually can't seem to stop reassuring us that Islam is a religion of peace -- in other words, pretty much the same garbage you're spewing -- all the while currying favor with (and hoovering petro-bribes from) their Saudi patrons who atone for their playboy lifestyles by financing Salafist/Wahabi/al Qaeda clerics. To a man, they're peddling the same lunacy you are. How could it be otherwise, given that their foreign policy (and immigration policy in particular) depends on obscuring the obvious?

    That's not to excuse the Soros/Gulenist/Clinton/Obama useful idiots who pile on with more of the same, all of it serving to further the pretense that Islam -- in light of the context I laid out -- has been anything other than a tragedy for this planet.

    , @guest
    Neocons are the ones who want to bring "democracy" to (i.e. rule over and steal the resources/produce of) the Muslims. Which means they think within each of them is a little Current Year American trying to get out. Plus, they're always telling us theirs is a religion of peace, they're good people just like us, and all that jazz.
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  250. @bored identity
    I'm confused...

    What's the meaning of all these tiny triple parenthesis framing their names?

    Are they some kind of earthquake survivors?

    I think it means that their bullshit is broadcast in stereo (where available).

    And closed-captioned for the hearing impaired.

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    Dear Stan,

    Thank you for a clarification.

    What a relief !!!

    For some reason I thought it could be maybe some kind of dark and sinister signage that could put a sender and/or recipient into major trouble.

    Now that I know that little echo is fully ADA approved tool, I will use it accordingly to assist deaf & blind unfortunates all around the nation Globe !

    Best regards,

    bored identity
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  251. @anon
    You think they tend to form healthy families ?
    Define healthy .

    The different generations take care of each other, reproduction at or above replacement, men stick around and support wife or wives and the children, low incidence of substance abuse, children generally well behaved and respectful, lower rates of divorce, daughters tend to be less promiscuous, members generally happy.

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    , members generally happy.

    Muslims are generally happy?
    Well, now I have heard it all........
    , @bored identity
    Holly Black Rock, Mary and Joseph!

    Who's your mahdy?

    Have you ever lived among Muslims?

    And, no, your high-school senior summer field trip to Indonesia doesn't count.

    Sorry, but you sound like a caricature of some Houllebeque's character.
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  252. Dissident says:
    @SFG
    It's not that simple. A lot of them wanted to rebel back in the 70s and 80s and now are returning to the left. We may see Jonah Goldberg writing for the Atlantic yet.

    Now they're being replaced by Orthodox and Stephen Miller-ish types with weak Jewish identities who see themselves as more white than anything else. Trump did worse than Romney and Bush in '04, but better than Bush in '00 and McCain.

    The difference with blacks, who usually split 90-10, is that Jews make enough money that lower taxes are actually attractive, so there's always a conservative minority that wants to pay fewer taxes and isn't particularly worried about saving the NAMs or the trees.

    so there’s always a conservative minority that wants to pay fewer taxes and isn’t particularly worried about saving the NAMs or the trees.

    Of those Jews that vote Republican, aren’t there at least as many who do so for other reasons, such as Israel[1]; law and order/ safety from street thugs; and, especially since 9/11, national security? Don’t forget, as well, that many Jews, especially in the public sector, have been victims of affirmative action, losing their jobs to less-qualified Blacks or Latinos/Hispanics. (E.g., public school systems, perhaps most notably New York City’s.) There are also at least some Jews, as has been noted in other comments in this thread, who oppose the onslaught of mass third-world immigration. (Again, the number of such Jews has undoubtedly increased after 9/11 and subsequent terrorist attacks in the West.) Finally, there are Jews for whom social/cultural conservatism factors, to varying degrees, into their voting GOP. While most in this latter category are likely Orthodox, not all are. Unz Review’s own Paul Gottfried, for example, is certainly someone who seems to appreciate the moral and cultural scourge posed by “LGBTQ” degeneracy (as well, I believe, of Internet pornography).[2]

    For reasons that should be obvious, I find it germane to note that I am an emphatically non-Zionist Orthodox Jew[1] who abhors Cultural Marxism and is vehemently opposed to both the “invade” as well as the “invite” wings of the globalist bird of prey. I also feel a debt of gratitude for the unprecedented kindness and religious tolerance of an overwhelmingly White and Christian America. (While wishing no one any harm merely because of such accidents of birth as race or national, ethnic or religious origin.) My view of individuals such as Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks and Bill Kristol should not be difficult to guess.

    [MORE]

    NOTES:
    [1] Or, more properly, the Zionist State that calls itself “Israel”. Zionism, from its inception and in all of its forms, was declared a grave violation of Judaism and opposed by a near-unanimous consensus of the foremost rabbinical authorities and Judaic sages. Had their words been heeded, the Zionist State would never have been created. Now that it has, its existence presents a terribly difficult, complicated and ultra-delicate situation for Torah-true Jews. While there are legitimate differences in opinion among bona fide rabbinical authorities on many points concerning the proper approach to take in the matter, far too many of even some of the most otherwise loyal and devout Jews– including even some great rabbis– have been led astray by the golden calf of Zionism, causing them to err and stumble in this area.

    [2] Some examples, in addition to Gottfried’s piece on Cultural Marxism that I linked above:

    While addressing either his own H.L. Mencken Society or some other gathering of those on what one of the speakers termed the “heretical Right”, I heard Gottfried take exception to the conventional (and trite) Republican criticism of Obama as a “Socialist”. Being a “socialist”, argued Gottfried, is the least of the problems with Obama; “He’s a radical!”. I do not recall Gottfried’s words well enough to be more specific but I do recall that if Gottfried did not explicitly specify that he meant, at least in large part, Obama’s unprecedented level of support for the “LGBTQ” agenda (which Gottfried may very well have), then I certainly understood Gottfried to be implying that.

    Another example: I heard Gottfried (in an interview with Kevin Michael Grace, if I recall correctly) in the context of explaining his rejection of White Nationalism, declare that he would not, for example, want to side with homosexuals* against Blacks.

    As for pornography and the like, while there is no instance of Gottfried addressing it explicitly that I can recall or point-to, I can say the following. I do not find it it all inconceivable that someone such as Gottfried may, for all I know, have little-to-no problem with the likes of Playboy. When it comes to the kind of corrosive filth, however, that the Internet has given every child by the age of 12 de facto nearly unrestricted access to– material that makes the likes of Playboy, by comparison, look downright wholesome– I have little doubt of Gottfried’s concern and even outright disapproval.

    *I feel I should note here that when Gottfried said “homosexuals”, I doubt he was referring merely to anyone’s personal proclivities or even to their personal behavior, per se– at least as long as it would remain discreet. Rather, I took Gottfried to be referring-to brazen, buggering, activist Sodomites who tyrannically insist that everyone not merely tolerate, not even merely respect, but actually embrace, celebrate, champion and subsidize their wanton, inordinately disease-promoting degeneracy– public health; the welfare of confused and vulnerable children; what was the very foundation of society for the entire history of humanity; and religious liberty all be damned. (Not to mention the spilling-over of said degeneracy into heterosexual youth culture.)

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  253. @Stan Adams
    I think it means that their bullshit is broadcast in stereo (where available).

    And closed-captioned for the hearing impaired.

    Dear Stan,

    Thank you for a clarification.

    What a relief !!!

    For some reason I thought it could be maybe some kind of dark and sinister signage that could put a sender and/or recipient into major trouble.

    Now that I know that little echo is fully ADA approved tool, I will use it accordingly to assist deaf & blind unfortunates all around the nation Globe !

    Best regards,

    bored identity

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    I live to serve.

    The reporters at the Boston Globe are, indeed, deaf and blind to the truth. But their colleagues down in New York and D.C. are even more hopelessly deluded.

    Some of you might recall that the Globe did a cute little Trump-bashing April Fool's Day issue in the year of our Lord 2016. I'm sure they're planning something spectacular for this year.
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  254. @Opinionator
    Neocon propaganda.

    No, he’s right. Islamic societies are pretty bad. They generate lots of surplus men, among other things.

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    That is false, as a matter of fact. Western societies generate a greater surplus of men.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Not just surplus men, but men who have almost zero chance of getting laid on a regular basis. They have a religion that tells them that the Islamic world is supreme, but they can't help noticing all the good stuff is produced by the Great Satan.
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  255. Brutusale says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Quite right. Internet warriors who blame every socially corrosive idea on the Jews should have a close look at all those 19th century Protestant pains in the ass.

    19th Century?! The damned Lutherans, Methodists and Unitarians are essential to the taxpayer-funded “refugee” programs in the 21st Century.

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    The present is shaped by the past. If I say something was true in the past it doesn't mean it's untrue or less true today. I'm not sure why that astonishes you.
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  256. “vibrant” is a great PC adjective….

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  257. @Jim Don Bob
    I qualified for and joined Mensa when I was 17. I went to a few meetings and decided I didn't want to hang with these people. Still don't.

    Test-taking smart ain't all it's cracked up to be. See our ruling classes for a plethora of examples.

    >>>>Test-taking smart ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.
    You are correct. The most successful person needs IQ, common sense, and a strong work ethic.

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  258. Dissident says:
    @Svigor

    Working class WASP is a contradiction in terms.
     
    Anything to make the term even stupider than it was before, I guess.

    The "White" part is redundant, all Anglo-Saxons are White, it's just there to put the "W" into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    The "Protestant" part is redundant, Protestantism is the (at least background) religion of the Anglo-Saxons, it's just there to put the "P" into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    Now Jack insists that it must refer to something not included in the name, high social class.

    So now it doesn't actually refer to Anglo-Saxons, either.

    Perfectly in keeping, I say.

    name of a nasty insect.

    Why did the bee wear a yarmulke?

    He didn’t want to be mistaken for a WASP.

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  259. HA says:
    @Opinionator
    Neocon propaganda.

    “Neocon propaganda.”

    See, that’s when you know you’ve cut to the bone — when that’s the best they can do as a comeback.

    But as everyone here knows, neo-cons — be they Bush or Blair or Cameron — actually can’t seem to stop reassuring us that Islam is a religion of peace — in other words, pretty much the same garbage you’re spewing — all the while currying favor with (and hoovering petro-bribes from) their Saudi patrons who atone for their playboy lifestyles by financing Salafist/Wahabi/al Qaeda clerics. To a man, they’re peddling the same lunacy you are. How could it be otherwise, given that their foreign policy (and immigration policy in particular) depends on obscuring the obvious?

    That’s not to excuse the Soros/Gulenist/Clinton/Obama useful idiots who pile on with more of the same, all of it serving to further the pretense that Islam — in light of the context I laid out — has been anything other than a tragedy for this planet.

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    Riiiiiight, it is "the Saudis" who dictate U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Our congressional representatives, other politicians, and "journalists" are surely beholden to "the Saudis."

    More neocon propaganda.

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  260. Dissident says:
    @ben tillman

    The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics aren’t much different in regards to mass immigration.
     
    But they're followers, not leaders. People like Brooks and Rubin-Erdely are the leaders.

    So “The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics” that “Maj. Kong” characterized as being “[not] much different in regards to mass immigration.” as the likes of Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, et al., are simply following the lead of Jews like the aforementioned?

    You actually believe that?

    The so-called “mainline” Protestant churches have been more or less full-SJW for how many decades now?

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, weren’t the bishops at least heavily SJW starting from long before the current Pope?

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    So “The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics” that “Maj. Kong” characterized as being “[not] much different in regards to mass immigration.” as the likes of Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, et al., are simply following the lead of Jews like the aforementioned?

    You actually believe that?
     

    It is an absolute certainty.
    , @ben tillman

    The so-called “mainline” Protestant churches have been more or less full-SJW for how many decades now?

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, weren’t the bishops at least heavily SJW starting from long before the current Pope?
     
    And the influence leading to that result traces back much further.
    , @benjaminl
    Relevant:

    http://forward.com/opinion/159955/converts-who-changed-the-church/

    http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/SAIDchap7.pdf
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  261. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Opinionator
    The different generations take care of each other, reproduction at or above replacement, men stick around and support wife or wives and the children, low incidence of substance abuse, children generally well behaved and respectful, lower rates of divorce, daughters tend to be less promiscuous, members generally happy.

    , members generally happy.

    Muslims are generally happy?
    Well, now I have heard it all……..

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    It's true. How many Americans have mental health issues, are on psychiatric drugs, or are self medicating?
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  262. Dissident says:
    @Olorin

    “I see this stuff constantly anymore.” — That’s a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.
     
    I caught that too!

    I still find myself saying things like, "The biscuits is all," or "Oh, I spent the day piddling/ramming around." "Parrot wants up." "Hey, outen the light." "Why you so all het up?" "The tomatoes are droopy, must spritz." "I plumb forgot." "Not too hungry, just for butterbread/dippybread." "Why you so gretzy today?"

    When I was very young and encountered Yiddish among Jews, a lot of it was familiar.

    The people hinnersick were. Ferhoodled also.

    “Why you so all het up?”

    Would you expect any different from folks in these parts? Being irredeemably deplorable “homophobes” and all…

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  263. Dissident says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    As a long-time listener of WBAI (New York's Pacifica station), I believe that no rightist broadcasting entity could ever even approach the sheer lunacy of their leftist counterpart.

    1.) Are you surprised that WBAI has survived this long? I’ve heard talk of it being on the verge of folding for years now. How much longer do you give it?

    2.) Do you ever listen to the Golden Age of Radio (Sundays, 7-9 PM) hosted by Max Schmid?

    For several years already, that’s the only time I tune in to BAI. I should probably go back to listening Amy Goodman’s Democracy Now! (Hypocrisy Now!), though, if only to hear guests like Jeremy Scahill and Glenn Greenwald.

    3.) Do you recall such BAI luminaries as Bernard White, “Brother Shine” or Eutrice Leed?

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    Dissident,

    Thanks for your response. Here are my responses:

    #1. I first remember listening to WBAI in the late 60s. I remember them describing how their fellow Pacifica station's antenna was dynamited by Texan patriots in I believe Houston - a job well done. Since I first listened they have always been on the verge of collapse. WBAI will go on forever unless the mother Pacifica station takes them over in some financial coup (which I believe has been attempted more than once).

    #2. I've listened to the Golden Age. I especially like the Jean Shepherd reruns. I remember listening to JS on WOR. He was quite a talker (understatement of the year!).

    #3. I believe that Bernard White was caught up in some of the internectine warfare that Pacifica was and is famous for.

    I used to listen to WBAI for its sheer unadulterated left wing over the top lunacy. Now I can get full doses of left wing lunacy at Politico, CNN, et al.
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  264. Dissident says:
    @Steve Sailer
    George W. Bush's well-written memoir doesn't cite a ghostwriter per se, but the acknowledgments include a highly effusive paragraph making it clear to anybody paying attention that this guy was the ghost and if you need a ghost, you should definitely consider him because he's good at his job. I thought that was a decent compromise between giving official credit and actively covering up who ghosted the book, the way the Clintons often do.

    Military men usually let their ghostwriters have their name on the cover, but politicians seem averse.

    Military men usually let their ghostwriters have their name on the cover, but politicians seem averse.

    If the name is on the cover, is it still a ghost writer?

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  265. guest says:
    @Opinionator
    Neocon propaganda.

    Neocons are the ones who want to bring “democracy” to (i.e. rule over and steal the resources/produce of) the Muslims. Which means they think within each of them is a little Current Year American trying to get out. Plus, they’re always telling us theirs is a religion of peace, they’re good people just like us, and all that jazz.

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  266. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Norman Lear based Archie Bunker on his father, who apparently wasn’t much of a progressive in the contemporary mold. Lear intended Archie to be the butt of every joke, and was mildly appalled to discover that he soon acquired a fan base.”

    So the fictitious Archie Bunker was based on a Jewish guy, Norman Lear’s father?

    “…Lear was born in New Haven, Connecticut, the son of Enie/Jeanette (née Sokolovsky) and Hyman “Herman” Lear, a traveling salesman …Lear grew up in a Jewish home and had a Bar Mitzvah ceremony…

    …When Lear was 9 years old, his father went to prison for selling fake bonds. Lear thought of his father as a “rascal” and said that the character of Archie Bunker (whom Lear depicted as white Protestant on the show) was in part inspired by his father…”

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  267. @The Anti-Gnostic
    No, he's right. Islamic societies are pretty bad. They generate lots of surplus men, among other things.

    That is false, as a matter of fact. Western societies generate a greater surplus of men.

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    You see, polygyny is actually quite rare in Muslim societies. And Western ideology and society actually generate a greater surplus of men. The destruction of tradition, the delayed onset of marriage, the widespread use of birth control, the serial polygyny by higher status men, the promotion of non sex among other factors all entail that a greater percentage of women are allocated to a smaller percentage of men. Hence, surplus.

    (Not to mention lax Western immigration policies, which result in the importation of a higher ratio of men.)
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    You're still wrong. The Middle East and North Africa are filled to the brim with men with no marriage prospects and no marketable skills. Islam, with no proscriptions on consanguinity or polygamy and a fatalistic worldview, is a disaster. If the oil ever runs out, Muslims will go back to banditry. Higher-g Indonesia may be able to forge a different path.
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  268. @Opinionator
    That is false, as a matter of fact. Western societies generate a greater surplus of men.

    You see, polygyny is actually quite rare in Muslim societies. And Western ideology and society actually generate a greater surplus of men. The destruction of tradition, the delayed onset of marriage, the widespread use of birth control, the serial polygyny by higher status men, the promotion of non sex among other factors all entail that a greater percentage of women are allocated to a smaller percentage of men. Hence, surplus.

    (Not to mention lax Western immigration policies, which result in the importation of a higher ratio of men.)

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    Correction:

    That should read "the promotion of non-MARITAL sex"
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  269. @HA
    "Neocon propaganda."

    See, that's when you know you've cut to the bone -- when that's the best they can do as a comeback.

    But as everyone here knows, neo-cons -- be they Bush or Blair or Cameron -- actually can't seem to stop reassuring us that Islam is a religion of peace -- in other words, pretty much the same garbage you're spewing -- all the while currying favor with (and hoovering petro-bribes from) their Saudi patrons who atone for their playboy lifestyles by financing Salafist/Wahabi/al Qaeda clerics. To a man, they're peddling the same lunacy you are. How could it be otherwise, given that their foreign policy (and immigration policy in particular) depends on obscuring the obvious?

    That's not to excuse the Soros/Gulenist/Clinton/Obama useful idiots who pile on with more of the same, all of it serving to further the pretense that Islam -- in light of the context I laid out -- has been anything other than a tragedy for this planet.

    Riiiiiight, it is “the Saudis” who dictate U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Our congressional representatives, other politicians, and “journalists” are surely beholden to “the Saudis.”

    More neocon propaganda.

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    "Riiiiiight, it is “the Saudis” who dictate U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East."

    There's a good more to "dictating US foreign policy" than prattling blatant falsehoods about peace-loving Islam so as to grovel for Saudi petro-wealth. Next time you set up a straw man, try to be less obvious about it, and you might have more success.

    Then again, if that wasn't your intent, and this is simply a case of poor reading comprehension on your part, it would go a long way towards explaining why it is you see the world the way you do.

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  270. @Opinionator
    You see, polygyny is actually quite rare in Muslim societies. And Western ideology and society actually generate a greater surplus of men. The destruction of tradition, the delayed onset of marriage, the widespread use of birth control, the serial polygyny by higher status men, the promotion of non sex among other factors all entail that a greater percentage of women are allocated to a smaller percentage of men. Hence, surplus.

    (Not to mention lax Western immigration policies, which result in the importation of a higher ratio of men.)

    Correction:

    That should read “the promotion of non-MARITAL sex”

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  271. @The Anti-Gnostic
    No, he's right. Islamic societies are pretty bad. They generate lots of surplus men, among other things.

    Not just surplus men, but men who have almost zero chance of getting laid on a regular basis. They have a religion that tells them that the Islamic world is supreme, but they can’t help noticing all the good stuff is produced by the Great Satan.

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    Not just surplus men, but men who have almost zero chance of getting laid on a regular basis.

    This doesn't describe the United States?

    They have a religion that tells them that the Islamic world is supreme, but they can’t help noticing all the good stuff is produced by the Great Satan.

    The prevailing globalist culture of atomization in the United States holds that it is supreme. Yet the Great Satan and Europe seem unable to produce the really good stuff--families, children, cultural continuity. Islam is superior in this respect.
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  272. Langley says:
    @Opinionator
    Jews don't seem to target Hispanic culture for deconstruction the way they do European culture.

    “Jews don’t seem to target Hispanic culture for deconstruction the way they do European culture.”

    They don’t see it as a threat.

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  273. Langley says:
    @bored identity
    I'm confused...

    What's the meaning of all these tiny triple parenthesis framing their names?

    Are they some kind of earthquake survivors?

    “What’s the meaning of all these tiny triple parenthesis framing their names?”

    Three standard deviations from normal.

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  274. Cagey Beast says: • Website
    @Brutusale
    19th Century?! The damned Lutherans, Methodists and Unitarians are essential to the taxpayer-funded "refugee" programs in the 21st Century.

    The present is shaped by the past. If I say something was true in the past it doesn’t mean it’s untrue or less true today. I’m not sure why that astonishes you.

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  275. Jennifer Rubin pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration.

    Jennifer Rubin puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States.

    Jennifer Rubin supports the use of mass immigration as a demographic weapon to destroy European Christian nation-states.

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  276. @Jim Don Bob
    Not just surplus men, but men who have almost zero chance of getting laid on a regular basis. They have a religion that tells them that the Islamic world is supreme, but they can't help noticing all the good stuff is produced by the Great Satan.

    Not just surplus men, but men who have almost zero chance of getting laid on a regular basis.

    This doesn’t describe the United States?

    They have a religion that tells them that the Islamic world is supreme, but they can’t help noticing all the good stuff is produced by the Great Satan.

    The prevailing globalist culture of atomization in the United States holds that it is supreme. Yet the Great Satan and Europe seem unable to produce the really good stuff–families, children, cultural continuity. Islam is superior in this respect.

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  277. @Anon
    , members generally happy.

    Muslims are generally happy?
    Well, now I have heard it all........

    It’s true. How many Americans have mental health issues, are on psychiatric drugs, or are self medicating?

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    Iran and Pakistan are the largest heroin users . Somalians are khat users. If substance abuse and self medication are the metric , Muslims are not as happy as you say .

    Throw in the penchant for physical and sexual abuse and sheer lack of empathy for the suffering of children , ie , FGM , Bacha Bazzi and they scarcely seem happy or bereft of mental illness.

    The sheer amount of terrorism generated by Muslims even in 100% Muslim countries is also contrary to your hypothesis.
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  278. @bored identity
    Dear Stan,

    Thank you for a clarification.

    What a relief !!!

    For some reason I thought it could be maybe some kind of dark and sinister signage that could put a sender and/or recipient into major trouble.

    Now that I know that little echo is fully ADA approved tool, I will use it accordingly to assist deaf & blind unfortunates all around the nation Globe !

    Best regards,

    bored identity

    I live to serve.

    The reporters at the Boston Globe are, indeed, deaf and blind to the truth. But their colleagues down in New York and D.C. are even more hopelessly deluded.

    Some of you might recall that the Globe did a cute little Trump-bashing April Fool’s Day issue in the year of our Lord 2016. I’m sure they’re planning something spectacular for this year.

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  279. Dan Hayes says:
    @Dissident
    1.) Are you surprised that WBAI has survived this long? I've heard talk of it being on the verge of folding for years now. How much longer do you give it?

    2.) Do you ever listen to the Golden Age of Radio (Sundays, 7-9 PM) hosted by Max Schmid?

    For several years already, that's the only time I tune in to BAI. I should probably go back to listening Amy Goodman's Democracy Now! (Hypocrisy Now!), though, if only to hear guests like Jeremy Scahill and Glenn Greenwald.

    3.) Do you recall such BAI luminaries as Bernard White, "Brother Shine" or Eutrice Leed?

    Dissident,

    Thanks for your response. Here are my responses:

    #1. I first remember listening to WBAI in the late 60s. I remember them describing how their fellow Pacifica station’s antenna was dynamited by Texan patriots in I believe Houston – a job well done. Since I first listened they have always been on the verge of collapse. WBAI will go on forever unless the mother Pacifica station takes them over in some financial coup (which I believe has been attempted more than once).

    #2. I’ve listened to the Golden Age. I especially like the Jean Shepherd reruns. I remember listening to JS on WOR. He was quite a talker (understatement of the year!).

    #3. I believe that Bernard White was caught up in some of the internectine warfare that Pacifica was and is famous for.

    I used to listen to WBAI for its sheer unadulterated left wing over the top lunacy. Now I can get full doses of left wing lunacy at Politico, CNN, et al.

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    Thanks for replying, Mr. Hayes.

    I wasn't in this world yet in the 60's and only began listening to WBAI in the late '90's. (At which time, still filled with much of the naivety and misguided idealism of youth, I was going through somewhat of an SJW stage myself.) It was through Max Schmid's Golden Age of Radio that I discovered Jean Shepherd, for which I am grateful as I greatly enjoy Shep's celebrated storytelling.

    Max Schmid himself is a rather interesting character. Appearing rather moderate and sane by WBAI standards (not saying much, I know), Schmid regularly expresses frustration and takes little digs at the incompetency, chaos and perpetual internecine fighting that WBAI is infamous for. These ejaculations* can be rather entertaining; an added bonus to the great old time radio recordings that fill the overwhelming percentage of the show's air time (except during fund-raising, which, as you likely know, accounts for as much a third of total yearly broadcast days on WBAI). While steering clear of politics and ideology for the most part, Schmid seems to just have to get in little swipes at the right from time to time in passing, often quite nasty ones.

    Some examples:

    Distinguishing an old time radio production named Hobby Lobby from the business of that name that was in the news several years for objecting, on religious grounds, to being forced to fund contraceptives for their employees, Schmid referred-to the latter entity as "Nazis". Another time, Schmid mentioned that Dragnet star Jack Webb did a show at some point in which he would offer political commentary. Schmid characterized Webb's actual views as quite liberal and said that this would likely surprise many who thought of Webb, based on his fictional persona(s), as a "right-wing a--hole". On the Sunday Golden Age of Radio broadcast just after DJT's Presidential inauguration, Schmid played an episode from a vintage (1953) Armed Forces Radio Service series called If Freedom Failed. When playing episodes from this series before, Schmid would scoff at and belittle its theme and premise: a dramatization that warned of what would happen if Communism were to take over the U.S., suggesting that it amounted-to little more than hysterical, over-the-top propaganda. Now, making obvious reference to DJT's nascent Presidency, Schmid snickered that it was too bad that there weren't any If Freedom Failed type dramatizations warning of what would would happen if "Fascism" were to come to the U.S.

    I hope you will not mind my asking two further questions of you:

    1.) Have you ever listened to a show called RADIO FREE EIREANN on WBAI? Scrolling through your comment history made me curious what you might think of said show.

    1.) As you may recall, British MP George Galloway had a show for a time on WBAI. Did you, by any chance, ever call in to it? (There was a caller I recall hearing who, based on your comment history, I wonder might not have been you.)
    Thanks.

    *Is there no hope of resurrecting the entirely non-sexual meaning of this word? Did people in Dickens' time, for example, snicker and sneer at the repeated use of the word-in-question in his novels? In Nicholas Nickleby, for example.
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  280. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Opinionator
    It's true. How many Americans have mental health issues, are on psychiatric drugs, or are self medicating?

    Iran and Pakistan are the largest heroin users . Somalians are khat users. If substance abuse and self medication are the metric , Muslims are not as happy as you say .

    Throw in the penchant for physical and sexual abuse and sheer lack of empathy for the suffering of children , ie , FGM , Bacha Bazzi and they scarcely seem happy or bereft of mental illness.

    The sheer amount of terrorism generated by Muslims even in 100% Muslim countries is also contrary to your hypothesis.

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    The sheer amount of terrorism generated by Muslims even in 100% Muslim countries is also contrary to your hypothesis.

    Political violence of Muslims pales in comparison the political violence of the United States and Europe.

    khat is child's play.

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  281. @anon
    Iran and Pakistan are the largest heroin users . Somalians are khat users. If substance abuse and self medication are the metric , Muslims are not as happy as you say .

    Throw in the penchant for physical and sexual abuse and sheer lack of empathy for the suffering of children , ie , FGM , Bacha Bazzi and they scarcely seem happy or bereft of mental illness.

    The sheer amount of terrorism generated by Muslims even in 100% Muslim countries is also contrary to your hypothesis.

    The sheer amount of terrorism generated by Muslims even in 100% Muslim countries is also contrary to your hypothesis.

    Political violence of Muslims pales in comparison the political violence of the United States and Europe.

    khat is child’s play.

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  282. HA says:
    @Opinionator
    Riiiiiight, it is "the Saudis" who dictate U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Our congressional representatives, other politicians, and "journalists" are surely beholden to "the Saudis."

    More neocon propaganda.

    “Riiiiiight, it is “the Saudis” who dictate U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.”

    There’s a good more to “dictating US foreign policy” than prattling blatant falsehoods about peace-loving Islam so as to grovel for Saudi petro-wealth. Next time you set up a straw man, try to be less obvious about it, and you might have more success.

    Then again, if that wasn’t your intent, and this is simply a case of poor reading comprehension on your part, it would go a long way towards explaining why it is you see the world the way you do.

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  283. @Dissident
    So "The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics" that "Maj. Kong" characterized as being "[not] much different in regards to mass immigration." as the likes of Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, et al., are simply following the lead of Jews like the aforementioned?

    You actually believe that?

    The so-called "mainline" Protestant churches have been more or less full-SJW for how many decades now?

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, weren't the bishops at least heavily SJW starting from long before the current Pope?

    So “The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics” that “Maj. Kong” characterized as being “[not] much different in regards to mass immigration.” as the likes of Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, et al., are simply following the lead of Jews like the aforementioned?

    You actually believe that?

    It is an absolute certainty.

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  284. @Dissident
    So "The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics" that "Maj. Kong" characterized as being "[not] much different in regards to mass immigration." as the likes of Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, et al., are simply following the lead of Jews like the aforementioned?

    You actually believe that?

    The so-called "mainline" Protestant churches have been more or less full-SJW for how many decades now?

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, weren't the bishops at least heavily SJW starting from long before the current Pope?

    The so-called “mainline” Protestant churches have been more or less full-SJW for how many decades now?

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, weren’t the bishops at least heavily SJW starting from long before the current Pope?

    And the influence leading to that result traces back much further.

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  285. @Opinionator
    The different generations take care of each other, reproduction at or above replacement, men stick around and support wife or wives and the children, low incidence of substance abuse, children generally well behaved and respectful, lower rates of divorce, daughters tend to be less promiscuous, members generally happy.

    Holly Black Rock, Mary and Joseph!

    Who’s your mahdy?

    Have you ever lived among Muslims?

    And, no, your high-school senior summer field trip to Indonesia doesn’t count.

    Sorry, but you sound like a caricature of some Houllebeque’s character.

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  286. @SPMoore8
    "I see this stuff constantly anymore." -- That's a very Pennsylvania Dutch thing to say.

    You can sure that the Washington Post has copy editors and editors above Jennifer Rubin who sign off on everything she writes. As noted, subject verb agreement is an issue not only because of the ubiquitous "they" (not talking about Gomez, right now) which can be s. or p. but also because there is apparently a British tradition that is different from ours.

    The writings of the elites always surprise me with their arrogance and flippancy with regard to how actual people live their lives. Like the gal who wrote a column complaining about how there were too many deer in the Northeast (after she hit one) or the gal at the Wall Street Journal, decades ago, who said that some executive who was unemployed had only himself to blame for not relocating because he insisted on living close to his mother. Her solution: just put her in the trunk and move. This kind of stuff doesn't make me angry but it does remind me that these people are basically clueless, in human terms, about life in general.

    Okay, I'll bite. Let's send all the unemployed Americans who can't get a job or get ahead in life so they can have a home and raise a family and send them to whatever metropolis she lives in. Along with certifiable vibrancy, there will also be all the problems with urban sprawl. But don't worry, the government will solve all of that.

    As someone also already noted, there really is a "let them eat cake" mentality at work here.

    Heh. I did not know that (the Pennsylvanian Dutch business); my father, rest his soul, was from Philadelphia, so I expect I picked the construction up from him.

    Other endearing constructions he taught me include:

    “Ah, go sh¡t in your hat!”

    “Sh¡t or get off the pot!”

    (Dad was famously impatient with bad drivers….)

    “You could have at least told me to go to Hell!” [When a person did not thank him for something for which politeness dictated thanks were in order or when someone did not answer or a acknowledge a question.]

    He is the last person I knew who said “Chinaman” matter-of-factly as a demonym, with no malice at all.

    And, lastly, of my mother, when she dilly-dallied (he liked to say “dilly-dally,” too):

    “You fart around, and you fart around all day!”

    #stuffmydadsaid

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    Lol
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  287. Jefferson says:

    ““For the life of me, I can’t figure out why so many Republicans prefer a dying white America to a place like, say, Houston.”

    If Houston is such a wonderful city to live in why don’t a disproportionate number of David Brooks tribe live there like they do in New York City and Los Angeles. Houston is not sophisticated enough for the majority of American Jews.

    With the exception of Los Angeles, Jews don’t like to live in close proximity to Mexicans, hence why there is not a large Jewish population in the Southwest.

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    Even in L.A. they avoid Mexicans (likewise San Diego); Jews, Goodwhites, etc. – even when they do dwell close to the Diversity they would foist upon the rest of us – meticulously establish microcommunities with walls, gates, police, etc. Cf. the University of Chicago as a fortified enclave in southern Chicago, La Jolla & Del Mar v. Imperial Beach and San Ysidro, gentrified Brooklyn v. the Bronx, Dana Point v. Costa Mesa, Miami Beach v. Hialeah & Opa Locka, etc.

    Indeed, Jimmy Carter was the last president with the common decency and lack of hypocrisy to send a child to a public school. It speaks volumes about the decline's progress that no one gives a second thought to the thousands of politicians who cannot be bothered to have their children attend public schools or serve in the military....

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  288. Jefferson says:
    @Opinionator
    Islam is a backwards religion that destroys everything in its path.

    Islam's adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?

    Islam’s adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?”

    Pedophilia is decadent and backwards and it’s disproportionately a way bigger problem in Muslim countries than in Western countries.

    An 80 year old Muslim man marries a 12 year old girl.

    So Opinionater these are the wholesome PG Islamic family values that you want The West to culturally appropriate right?

    http://louderwithcrowder.com/islamophobia-80-year-old-muslim-marries-12-year-old-bride/

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    You are cherry picking. I know of no Muslims in such an arrangement. In general, can anyone seriously claim that Muslims do not by and large exhibit stronger "family values" than those prevalent in mainstream Western pop culture?

    But I'm curious on what moral basis you, personally, object to such a relationship. Please elaborate.

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  289. @Autochthon
    Heh. I did not know that (the Pennsylvanian Dutch business); my father, rest his soul, was from Philadelphia, so I expect I picked the construction up from him.

    Other endearing constructions he taught me include:

    "Ah, go sh¡t in your hat!"

    "Sh¡t or get off the pot!"

    (Dad was famously impatient with bad drivers....)

    "You could have at least told me to go to Hell!" [When a person did not thank him for something for which politeness dictated thanks were in order or when someone did not answer or a acknowledge a question.]

    He is the last person I knew who said "Chinaman" matter-of-factly as a demonym, with no malice at all.

    And, lastly, of my mother, when she dilly-dallied (he liked to say "dilly-dally," too):

    "You fart around, and you fart around all day!"

    #stuffmydadsaid

    Lol

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  290. @Jefferson
    Islam’s adherents tend to form healthy families, avoid many vices like drugs and alcohol, and are growing in population on the planet. Meanwhile, the West is decadent and on a trend line toward extinction. Whose beliefs are backward and destructive again?"

    Pedophilia is decadent and backwards and it's disproportionately a way bigger problem in Muslim countries than in Western countries.

    An 80 year old Muslim man marries a 12 year old girl.

    So Opinionater these are the wholesome PG Islamic family values that you want The West to culturally appropriate right?
    http://louderwithcrowder.com/islamophobia-80-year-old-muslim-marries-12-year-old-bride/

    You are cherry picking. I know of no Muslims in such an arrangement. In general, can anyone seriously claim that Muslims do not by and large exhibit stronger “family values” than those prevalent in mainstream Western pop culture?

    But I’m curious on what moral basis you, personally, object to such a relationship. Please elaborate.

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    But I’m curious on what moral basis you, personally, object to such a relationship.
     
    I'm curious on what basis you could possibly defend the marriage of 12-year-old girl to an 80-year-old man.

    How many girls that age actually desire to be married at all, much less to an 80-year-old?

    , @Jefferson
    "In general, can anyone seriously claim that Muslims do not by and large exhibit stronger “family values” than those prevalent in mainstream Western pop culture?"

    Islam encourages Muslim men to practice adultery and cheat on their wives/girlfriends. So what passes for PG Islamic family values is considered a sin by Western Christian Ten Commandments standards.

    A lot of the Muslim rapists of Infidel women in Europe already have Muslim wives/Muslim girlfriends at home.

    The quran doesn't consider rape to be a moral sin, so Muslims have ZERO higher moral ground.

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  291. Dissident says:
    @Opinionator
    You are cherry picking. I know of no Muslims in such an arrangement. In general, can anyone seriously claim that Muslims do not by and large exhibit stronger "family values" than those prevalent in mainstream Western pop culture?

    But I'm curious on what moral basis you, personally, object to such a relationship. Please elaborate.

    But I’m curious on what moral basis you, personally, object to such a relationship.

    I’m curious on what basis you could possibly defend the marriage of 12-year-old girl to an 80-year-old man.

    How many girls that age actually desire to be married at all, much less to an 80-year-old?

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    I'm not defending it.

    Are there instances in the United States of girls getting pregnant at that age?

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  292. @Dissident

    But I’m curious on what moral basis you, personally, object to such a relationship.
     
    I'm curious on what basis you could possibly defend the marriage of 12-year-old girl to an 80-year-old man.

    How many girls that age actually desire to be married at all, much less to an 80-year-old?

    I’m not defending it.

    Are there instances in the United States of girls getting pregnant at that age?

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    A friend is a radiology technician in Atlanta; she tells tales of her hospital regularly having mestizoids of twelve and thirteen years' age come in to give birth, often five and six generations are present, so leporine are these creatures.

    So, in the U.S.A.? Sure.

    Among actual Americans vs. invaders? Doubtless it happens, but I expect it is confined to a vanishingly small group among the most desperately backward and vicious.
    , @Jefferson
    "I’m not defending it.

    Are there instances in the United States of girls getting pregnant at that age?"

    Are there 80 year old White Christian males in America marrying 12 year old girls?
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  293. Dissident says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Dissident,

    Thanks for your response. Here are my responses:

    #1. I first remember listening to WBAI in the late 60s. I remember them describing how their fellow Pacifica station's antenna was dynamited by Texan patriots in I believe Houston - a job well done. Since I first listened they have always been on the verge of collapse. WBAI will go on forever unless the mother Pacifica station takes them over in some financial coup (which I believe has been attempted more than once).

    #2. I've listened to the Golden Age. I especially like the Jean Shepherd reruns. I remember listening to JS on WOR. He was quite a talker (understatement of the year!).

    #3. I believe that Bernard White was caught up in some of the internectine warfare that Pacifica was and is famous for.

    I used to listen to WBAI for its sheer unadulterated left wing over the top lunacy. Now I can get full doses of left wing lunacy at Politico, CNN, et al.

    Thanks for replying, Mr. Hayes.

    I wasn’t in this world yet in the 60′s and only began listening to WBAI in the late ’90′s. (At which time, still filled with much of the naivety and misguided idealism of youth, I was going through somewhat of an SJW stage myself.) It was through Max Schmid’s Golden Age of Radio that I discovered Jean Shepherd, for which I am grateful as I greatly enjoy Shep’s celebrated storytelling.

    Max Schmid himself is a rather interesting character. Appearing rather moderate and sane by WBAI standards (not saying much, I know), Schmid regularly expresses frustration and takes little digs at the incompetency, chaos and perpetual internecine fighting that WBAI is infamous for. These ejaculations* can be rather entertaining; an added bonus to the great old time radio recordings that fill the overwhelming percentage of the show’s air time (except during fund-raising, which, as you likely know, accounts for as much a third of total yearly broadcast days on WBAI). While steering clear of politics and ideology for the most part, Schmid seems to just have to get in little swipes at the right from time to time in passing, often quite nasty ones.

    Some examples:

    Distinguishing an old time radio production named Hobby Lobby from the business of that name that was in the news several years for objecting, on religious grounds, to being forced to fund contraceptives for their employees, Schmid referred-to the latter entity as “Nazis”. Another time, Schmid mentioned that Dragnet star Jack Webb did a show at some point in which he would offer political commentary. Schmid characterized Webb’s actual views as quite liberal and said that this would likely surprise many who thought of Webb, based on his fictional persona(s), as a “right-wing a–hole”. On the Sunday Golden Age of Radio broadcast just after DJT’s Presidential inauguration, Schmid played an episode from a vintage (1953) Armed Forces Radio Service series called If Freedom Failed. When playing episodes from this series before, Schmid would scoff at and belittle its theme and premise: a dramatization that warned of what would happen if Communism were to take over the U.S., suggesting that it amounted-to little more than hysterical, over-the-top propaganda. Now, making obvious reference to DJT’s nascent Presidency, Schmid snickered that it was too bad that there weren’t any If Freedom Failed type dramatizations warning of what would would happen if “Fascism” were to come to the U.S.

    I hope you will not mind my asking two further questions of you:

    1.) Have you ever listened to a show called RADIO FREE EIREANN on WBAI? Scrolling through your comment history made me curious what you might think of said show.

    1.) As you may recall, British MP George Galloway had a show for a time on WBAI. Did you, by any chance, ever call in to it? (There was a caller I recall hearing who, based on your comment history, I wonder might not have been you.)
    Thanks.

    *Is there no hope of resurrecting the entirely non-sexual meaning of this word? Did people in Dickens’ time, for example, snicker and sneer at the repeated use of the word-in-question in his novels? In Nicholas Nickleby, for example.

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    Dissident,

    And thank you for your most welcome response. Here are my response to your numerical queries:

    #1. I listen to Radio Free Eireann. I probably concur with their evaluation of Gerry Adams - that he was purposely left the last man standing by the British. That is, he was intentionally not assassinated as were many of his more hard-line contemporaries (especially those from South Armagh) as the British believed that here was a man they could do business with. I don't believe that Adams was/is a traitor - in his own mind he is a realist. As usual the British knew what they were doing as Adams & Company are now busy wallowing in the political process (that is vying for any available pork).
    It's an interesting program.

    #2. I've never listened to Galloway on WBAI. I hold him in regard, despite his leftist platitudes. When I conveyed these sentiments to a member of the BNP, he sneered that he was married to a Palestinian!

    Regarding Schmid you have him down pat. One time I caught him sneering at WBAI's flogging of 9/11 conspiracy theories tapes on one of their many, many financial/begging campaigns. But he's still a leftist, although rather sane by WBAI standards of conspiracy delusionalism.

    Let me end on a positive note: praise for Ron Unz who makes this blog space available and its high quality. And thanks again for your response.
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  294. @Opinionator
    That is false, as a matter of fact. Western societies generate a greater surplus of men.

    You’re still wrong. The Middle East and North Africa are filled to the brim with men with no marriage prospects and no marketable skills. Islam, with no proscriptions on consanguinity or polygamy and a fatalistic worldview, is a disaster. If the oil ever runs out, Muslims will go back to banditry. Higher-g Indonesia may be able to forge a different path.

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    If the oil ever runs out? Do you reckon it flows via a wormhole from a magically self-sustaining spring in the Dimension of Oilyalso?

    Are you by chance a friend of the fellow who thinks increasing the housing stock (i.e., erecting more apartment-buildings and houses) will magically increase the nation's carrying capacity?

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  295. @Jefferson
    "“For the life of me, I can’t figure out why so many Republicans prefer a dying white America to a place like, say, Houston.”

    If Houston is such a wonderful city to live in why don't a disproportionate number of David Brooks tribe live there like they do in New York City and Los Angeles. Houston is not sophisticated enough for the majority of American Jews.


    With the exception of Los Angeles, Jews don't like to live in close proximity to Mexicans, hence why there is not a large Jewish population in the Southwest.

    Even in L.A. they avoid Mexicans (likewise San Diego); Jews, Goodwhites, etc. – even when they do dwell close to the Diversity they would foist upon the rest of us – meticulously establish microcommunities with walls, gates, police, etc. Cf. the University of Chicago as a fortified enclave in southern Chicago, La Jolla & Del Mar v. Imperial Beach and San Ysidro, gentrified Brooklyn v. the Bronx, Dana Point v. Costa Mesa, Miami Beach v. Hialeah & Opa Locka, etc.

    Indeed, Jimmy Carter was the last president with the common decency and lack of hypocrisy to send a child to a public school. It speaks volumes about the decline’s progress that no one gives a second thought to the thousands of politicians who cannot be bothered to have their children attend public schools or serve in the military….

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  296. @Opinionator
    I'm not defending it.

    Are there instances in the United States of girls getting pregnant at that age?

    A friend is a radiology technician in Atlanta; she tells tales of her hospital regularly having mestizoids of twelve and thirteen years’ age come in to give birth, often five and six generations are present, so leporine are these creatures.

    So, in the U.S.A.? Sure.

    Among actual Americans vs. invaders? Doubtless it happens, but I expect it is confined to a vanishingly small group among the most desperately backward and vicious.

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    Thousands of female children, some as young as 12, get married legally in the United States

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/
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  297. @Authenticjazzman
    To the censors who repeatedly cancel my harmless postings :

    FUCK YOU , YOU SMALL-MINDED ASSHOLES.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973 and pro jazz artist.

    Shouldn’t you be on tbe road with Al Di Meola or in tbe studio with Najee instead of farting around on Steve’s site all the time? I mean, what with you being such an ingenious (nor to mention authentic!) jazzman and all…?

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  298. @The Anti-Gnostic
    You're still wrong. The Middle East and North Africa are filled to the brim with men with no marriage prospects and no marketable skills. Islam, with no proscriptions on consanguinity or polygamy and a fatalistic worldview, is a disaster. If the oil ever runs out, Muslims will go back to banditry. Higher-g Indonesia may be able to forge a different path.

    If the oil ever runs out? Do you reckon it flows via a wormhole from a magically self-sustaining spring in the Dimension of Oilyalso?

    Are you by chance a friend of the fellow who thinks increasing the housing stock (i.e., erecting more apartment-buildings and houses) will magically increase the nation’s carrying capacity?

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  299. benjaminl says:
    @Dissident
    So "The vast majority of Roman Catholic and Protestant clerics" that "Maj. Kong" characterized as being "[not] much different in regards to mass immigration." as the likes of Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, et al., are simply following the lead of Jews like the aforementioned?

    You actually believe that?

    The so-called "mainline" Protestant churches have been more or less full-SJW for how many decades now?

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, weren't the bishops at least heavily SJW starting from long before the current Pope?

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  300. Jefferson says:
    @Opinionator
    I'm not defending it.

    Are there instances in the United States of girls getting pregnant at that age?

    “I’m not defending it.

    Are there instances in the United States of girls getting pregnant at that age?”

    Are there 80 year old White Christian males in America marrying 12 year old girls?

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  301. Jefferson says:
    @Opinionator
    You are cherry picking. I know of no Muslims in such an arrangement. In general, can anyone seriously claim that Muslims do not by and large exhibit stronger "family values" than those prevalent in mainstream Western pop culture?

    But I'm curious on what moral basis you, personally, object to such a relationship. Please elaborate.

    “In general, can anyone seriously claim that Muslims do not by and large exhibit stronger “family values” than those prevalent in mainstream Western pop culture?”

    Islam encourages Muslim men to practice adultery and cheat on their wives/girlfriends. So what passes for PG Islamic family values is considered a sin by Western Christian Ten Commandments standards.

    A lot of the Muslim rapists of Infidel women in Europe already have Muslim wives/Muslim girlfriends at home.

    The quran doesn’t consider rape to be a moral sin, so Muslims have ZERO higher moral ground.

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    Thousands of female children, some as young as 12, get married legally in the United States

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/
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  302. ATBOTL says:
    @415 reasons

    Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey. The same immigrant mentality should be encouraged among native-born Americans.
     
    Wow a vote of confidence that the U.S. has better economic prospects than dynamos like Guatemala, Pakistan and the Philippines. And the same logic applies to the quality of life you find in those cities that are now jam packed with people bidding up housing prices. What is wrong with these Americans? Don't they know the living conditions in Houston are better than Cebu City, Karachi and Managua? What are they nuts??

    “Every immigrant who comes is a vote of confidence in America, a bet that there is economic prosperity available at the end of the journey.”

    It’s like saying if I steal your money, it’s a vote of confidence that your money(now my money) wasn’t counterfeit.

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  303. Dan Hayes says:
    @Dissident
    Thanks for replying, Mr. Hayes.

    I wasn't in this world yet in the 60's and only began listening to WBAI in the late '90's. (At which time, still filled with much of the naivety and misguided idealism of youth, I was going through somewhat of an SJW stage myself.) It was through Max Schmid's Golden Age of Radio that I discovered Jean Shepherd, for which I am grateful as I greatly enjoy Shep's celebrated storytelling.

    Max Schmid himself is a rather interesting character. Appearing rather moderate and sane by WBAI standards (not saying much, I know), Schmid regularly expresses frustration and takes little digs at the incompetency, chaos and perpetual internecine fighting that WBAI is infamous for. These ejaculations* can be rather entertaining; an added bonus to the great old time radio recordings that fill the overwhelming percentage of the show's air time (except during fund-raising, which, as you likely know, accounts for as much a third of total yearly broadcast days on WBAI). While steering clear of politics and ideology for the most part, Schmid seems to just have to get in little swipes at the right from time to time in passing, often quite nasty ones.

    Some examples:

    Distinguishing an old time radio production named Hobby Lobby from the business of that name that was in the news several years for objecting, on religious grounds, to being forced to fund contraceptives for their employees, Schmid referred-to the latter entity as "Nazis". Another time, Schmid mentioned that Dragnet star Jack Webb did a show at some point in which he would offer political commentary. Schmid characterized Webb's actual views as quite liberal and said that this would likely surprise many who thought of Webb, based on his fictional persona(s), as a "right-wing a--hole". On the Sunday Golden Age of Radio broadcast just after DJT's Presidential inauguration, Schmid played an episode from a vintage (1953) Armed Forces Radio Service series called If Freedom Failed. When playing episodes from this series before, Schmid would scoff at and belittle its theme and premise: a dramatization that warned of what would happen if Communism were to take over the U.S., suggesting that it amounted-to little more than hysterical, over-the-top propaganda. Now, making obvious reference to DJT's nascent Presidency, Schmid snickered that it was too bad that there weren't any If Freedom Failed type dramatizations warning of what would would happen if "Fascism" were to come to the U.S.

    I hope you will not mind my asking two further questions of you:

    1.) Have you ever listened to a show called RADIO FREE EIREANN on WBAI? Scrolling through your comment history made me curious what you might think of said show.

    1.) As you may recall, British MP George Galloway had a show for a time on WBAI. Did you, by any chance, ever call in to it? (There was a caller I recall hearing who, based on your comment history, I wonder might not have been you.)
    Thanks.

    *Is there no hope of resurrecting the entirely non-sexual meaning of this word? Did people in Dickens' time, for example, snicker and sneer at the repeated use of the word-in-question in his novels? In Nicholas Nickleby, for example.

    Dissident,

    And thank you for your most welcome response. Here are my response to your numerical queries:

    #1. I listen to Radio Free Eireann. I probably concur with their evaluation of Gerry Adams – that he was purposely left the last man standing by the British. That is, he was intentionally not assassinated as were many of his more hard-line contemporaries (especially those from South Armagh) as the British believed that here was a man they could do business with. I don’t believe that Adams was/is a traitor – in his own mind he is a realist. As usual the British knew what they were doing as Adams & Company are now busy wallowing in the political process (that is vying for any available pork).
    It’s an interesting program.

    #2. I’ve never listened to Galloway on WBAI. I hold him in regard, despite his leftist platitudes. When I conveyed these sentiments to a member of the BNP, he sneered that he was married to a Palestinian!

    Regarding Schmid you have him down pat. One time I caught him sneering at WBAI’s flogging of 9/11 conspiracy theories tapes on one of their many, many financial/begging campaigns. But he’s still a leftist, although rather sane by WBAI standards of conspiracy delusionalism.

    Let me end on a positive note: praise for Ron Unz who makes this blog space available and its high quality. And thanks again for your response.

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  304. @Autochthon
    A friend is a radiology technician in Atlanta; she tells tales of her hospital regularly having mestizoids of twelve and thirteen years' age come in to give birth, often five and six generations are present, so leporine are these creatures.

    So, in the U.S.A.? Sure.

    Among actual Americans vs. invaders? Doubtless it happens, but I expect it is confined to a vanishingly small group among the most desperately backward and vicious.
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    Help me understand your point. Are you citing marriages among Americans in their late teens as some kind of rebuttal to the undesirability of births to unwed, twelve-year-old Guatemalans?

    According to the people at Pew, citing the American Community Survey:

    Although child marriage is not very common in the U.S.A., it is legal in almost every state. Nearly every state technically prohibits people younger than 18 from marrying, but each of these jurisdictions has exceptions to these laws. In at least 36 states, for example, minors can marry with judicial consent. And in 34 states, 16- and 17-year-olds can marry with their parents’ permission. Two states, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, allow 12- and 13-year-old girls respectively and 14-year-old boys to marry with parental and judicial permission. (Data on marriages among those under the age of 15 are not available from the American Community Survey.)
     
    The story you cite, written by a disinterested woman, Fraidy Reiss, whose job is to fight the tsunami of children marrying in America (just like Sharpton and Jackson disinterestedly expose how little we've progressed regarding Negroes' rights since 1865), includes:

    - A tearjerker from a woman named Michelle DeMello who married at sixteen and now regrets it, with no indication she raised any objections whatsoever at the time of the union (twenty-six years ago!), despite its requiring approval by the authorities, whom I can only presume she led to believe things were okie dokie.

    - Some hemming and hawing about how difficult empirical research is, followed by a guess that the number of children currently married in the U.S.A. is "nearly 248,000." No statistical data about race, ethnicity, or nationality are included, of course – although one woman who married at fifteen is named "Sara Siddiqui" and she explains her Mohammedan father forced her into an Islamic marriage because he caught her flirting with a boy from "a different cultural background" (American?) and told her she would otherwise "be damned forever" (use those data to choose your own adventure). We also learn of:

    Sherry Johnson of Florida, who said she was raped repeatedly as a child and was pregnant by eleven, at which time her mother forced her to marry her twenty-year-old rapist under Florida’s pregnancy exception in the 1970s.
     
    On these facts, Johnson's mother is obviously a monster from the vanishingly small group of persons I acknowledged; in any event Florida requires judicial approval of marriages involving anyone under sixteen, so either the judge was also a monster, or something fishy goes on with this story.

    Enough of this silly article, let us examine hate-facts compiled by persons who, unlike the lazy Fraidy Reiss, do not shrink from empirical research.



    In their own words, Girls Not Brides is a global partnership of more than seven hundred civil society organisations committed to ending child marriage and enabling girls to fulfill their potential. They seem to collect a lot of empirical data from and in cooperation with the United Nations. They also seem as credible as anyone on the matter, certainly more so than Ms. Reiss. I have compiled below some salient data. Remember, according to the most recent data I gathered from Pew: "About 57,800 minors in the U.S. ages fifteen to seventeen were married as of 2014." The U.S.A.'s population in 2014 was about 318,900,000; the population aged between fourteen and seventeen was 16,796,000. Thus, something like 0.35% of the relevant cohort were married. Back to some international data from Girls Not Brides:

    - In El Salvador, twenty-five per cent of girls under eighteen are married, the lowest proportion among surrounding nations.
    - In Honduras, twenty per cent of persons under eighteen are married.
    - In Nicaragua, seventy per cent of married girls under eighteen have husbands between ten and fourteen years older then them.
    - In Mexico, as of 2010 (the most recent data I find), twenty-three per cent of girls under eighteen are married in urban areas; the number is thirty-one percent in rural areas.

    By the by: accepting, arguendo, the figue from Reiss (248,000) and generously using for the denominator the population of American teens in 2014, at best some 1% of teens are married in the U.S.A. I expect the overwhelming number of these are not thirteen; more likely they are around sixteen or older and either from a backward culture (Mohammedans, mestizoids, etc.i.e., not actually Americans) or if they are actual Americans, they are young people who irresponsibly conceived a child as high-school aged teens and are now trying to do the honourable thing and take responsibility for their actions as best they can.

    These data are not all meticulously controlled and adjusted (e.g., Pew's data about children aged fifteen to seventeen are correlated with data from the U.S. Census Bureau about the population aged fourteen to seventeen; I cite mostly the data about marriages, but the same resources gather data about childbirth, and they also support my thesis. I'm not getting paid for this stuff, and not submitting it for peer review, but I contend that its admitted flaws do not affect my fundamental thesis, which the data nevertheless strongly support: As a general rule, white people don't breed like cockroaches beginning in adolescence or marry as children, but backward brown people embrace these practices like white on rice. Interested parties can read the original data and draw their own conclusions, of course.
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  305. @Jefferson
    "In general, can anyone seriously claim that Muslims do not by and large exhibit stronger “family values” than those prevalent in mainstream Western pop culture?"

    Islam encourages Muslim men to practice adultery and cheat on their wives/girlfriends. So what passes for PG Islamic family values is considered a sin by Western Christian Ten Commandments standards.

    A lot of the Muslim rapists of Infidel women in Europe already have Muslim wives/Muslim girlfriends at home.

    The quran doesn't consider rape to be a moral sin, so Muslims have ZERO higher moral ground.

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  306. @Opinionator
    Thousands of female children, some as young as 12, get married legally in the United States

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/

    Help me understand your point. Are you citing marriages among Americans in their late teens as some kind of rebuttal to the undesirability of births to unwed, twelve-year-old Guatemalans?

    According to the people at Pew, citing the American Community Survey:

    Although child marriage is not very common in the U.S.A., it is legal in almost every state. Nearly every state technically prohibits people younger than 18 from marrying, but each of these jurisdictions has exceptions to these laws. In at least 36 states, for example, minors can marry with judicial consent. And in 34 states, 16- and 17-year-olds can marry with their parents’ permission. Two states, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, allow 12- and 13-year-old girls respectively and 14-year-old boys to marry with parental and judicial permission. (Data on marriages among those under the age of 15 are not available from the American Community Survey.)

    The story you cite, written by a disinterested woman, Fraidy Reiss, whose job is to fight the tsunami of children marrying in America (just like Sharpton and Jackson disinterestedly expose how little we’ve progressed regarding Negroes’ rights since 1865), includes:

    - A tearjerker from a woman named Michelle DeMello who married at sixteen and now regrets it, with no indication she raised any objections whatsoever at the time of the union (twenty-six years ago!), despite its requiring approval by the authorities, whom I can only presume she led to believe things were okie dokie.

    - Some hemming and hawing about how difficult empirical research is, followed by a guess that the number of children currently married in the U.S.A. is “nearly 248,000.” No statistical data about race, ethnicity, or nationality are included, of course – although one woman who married at fifteen is named “Sara Siddiqui” and she explains her Mohammedan father forced her into an Islamic marriage because he caught her flirting with a boy from “a different cultural background” (American?) and told her she would otherwise “be damned forever” (use those data to choose your own adventure). We also learn of:

    Sherry Johnson of Florida, who said she was raped repeatedly as a child and was pregnant by eleven, at which time her mother forced her to marry her twenty-year-old rapist under Florida’s pregnancy exception in the 1970s.

    On these facts, Johnson’s mother is obviously a monster from the vanishingly small group of persons I acknowledged; in any event Florida requires judicial approval of marriages involving anyone under sixteen, so either the judge was also a monster, or something fishy goes on with this story.

    Enough of this silly article, let us examine hate-facts compiled by persons who, unlike the lazy Fraidy Reiss, do not shrink from empirical research.

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    In their own words, Girls Not Brides is a global partnership of more than seven hundred civil society organisations committed to ending child marriage and enabling girls to fulfill their potential. They seem to collect a lot of empirical data from and in cooperation with the United Nations. They also seem as credible as anyone on the matter, certainly more so than Ms. Reiss. I have compiled below some salient data. Remember, according to the most recent data I gathered from Pew: “About 57,800 minors in the U.S. ages fifteen to seventeen were married as of 2014.” The U.S.A.’s population in 2014 was about 318,900,000; the population aged between fourteen and seventeen was 16,796,000. Thus, something like 0.35% of the relevant cohort were married. Back to some international data from Girls Not Brides:

    - In El Salvador, twenty-five per cent of girls under eighteen are married, the lowest proportion among surrounding nations.
    - In Honduras, twenty per cent of persons under eighteen are married.
    - In Nicaragua, seventy per cent of married girls under eighteen have husbands between ten and fourteen years older then them.
    - In Mexico, as of 2010 (the most recent data I find), twenty-three per cent of girls under eighteen are married in urban areas; the number is thirty-one percent in rural areas.

    By the by: accepting, arguendo, the figue from Reiss (248,000) and generously using for the denominator the population of American teens in 2014, at best some 1% of teens are married in the U.S.A. I expect the overwhelming number of these are not thirteen; more likely they are around sixteen or older and either from a backward culture (Mohammedans, mestizoids, etc.i.e., not actually Americans) or if they are actual Americans, they are young people who irresponsibly conceived a child as high-school aged teens and are now trying to do the honourable thing and take responsibility for their actions as best they can.

    These data are not all meticulously controlled and adjusted (e.g., Pew’s data about children aged fifteen to seventeen are correlated with data from the U.S. Census Bureau about the population aged fourteen to seventeen; I cite mostly the data about marriages, but the same resources gather data about childbirth, and they also support my thesis. I’m not getting paid for this stuff, and not submitting it for peer review, but I contend that its admitted flaws do not affect my fundamental thesis, which the data nevertheless strongly support: As a general rule, white people don’t breed like cockroaches beginning in adolescence or marry as children, but backward brown people embrace these practices like white on rice. Interested parties can read the original data and draw their own conclusions, of course.

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  307. @Svigor

    Working class WASP is a contradiction in terms.
     
    Anything to make the term even stupider than it was before, I guess.

    The "White" part is redundant, all Anglo-Saxons are White, it's just there to put the "W" into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    The "Protestant" part is redundant, Protestantism is the (at least background) religion of the Anglo-Saxons, it's just there to put the "P" into play so it can be the name of a nasty insect.

    Now Jack insists that it must refer to something not included in the name, high social class.

    So now it doesn't actually refer to Anglo-Saxons, either.

    Perfectly in keeping, I say.

    I guess the forgotten Jew who came up with WASP could’ve decided the W was redundant, leaving the term ASP. Probably didn’t want to be so openly hostile. Plus,deriding people as vipers,well,could lead down an uncomfortable path.

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