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If this legislation is going to make Jeff Bezos’s net worth ($150 billion last I checked) even bigger, what’s it going to do for yours and mine? Betting against Jeff Bezos’s self-interest over the last quarter of a century has mostly been a losing proposition.

 
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  1. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    Betting against Jeff Bezos’s self-interest over the last quarter of a century has mostly been a losing proposition.

    Steve, I think perhaps you should clarify what you mean with this sentence, especially when read in tandem with the prior one.

    In any case, Trump taking L after L on immigration restriction legislation.

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  2. Isn’t Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Have the Amish been applying to hire H-1Bs, too? For the barn-raising Americans won’t do.

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    Isn’t Yoder a Mennonite name?
     
    Kevin Yoder is a Midwestern innocent who has no idea what he's doing.

    Yoder is an Amish name, and Kevin Yoder is from Yoder, Kansas, which is an Amish settlement. It looks like this.

    https://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/3846731020_ff8d454ef6_b-700x525.jpg


    https://larryschwarm.com/portraits/yoder3.jpg

    , @SporadicMyrmidon
    Interesting discussion of the Hmong here:
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/postcard-from-the-end-of-america-lancaster-county-pa/
    , @Barnard
    It is, but the Amish and Mennonites are not the same. The Mennonite denomination Yoder most likely would have been raised in is just another liberal, mainline type denomination. Under the "what we believe" section of their website, they have "Undoing racism and advancing intercultural transformation" featured. I have heard other Christian pastors joke that pacifism is the only plank of their theology, but it appears they are expanding into social justice. According to Wikipedia, Yoder attends a United Methodist megachurch in suburban Kansas City now.

    http://mennoniteusa.org/what-we-believe/
    , @Anon
    The Amish hand stitched quilts aren’t stitched by Amish women anymore but by low paid Vietnamese, Laos and Cambodians.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    Yoder is some kind of Kraut name. Yoder and Frey are a heavy equipment auction company out of Ohio. Yoder and Frey go on the road with their auction of heavy equipment and vehicles and trucks and small construction gear. Yoder and Frey made it up to New Hampshire plenty of times. Ohio is loaded up with Krauts, that is part of why Trump won Ohio.

    That Kevin Yoder dirtbag is a rancid whore for the GOP CHEAP LABOR FACTION. Kevin Yoder is pushing for more guest worker foreigners and more green card foreigners and more visa worker foreigners.

    That treasonous rat Kevin Yoder whore out of Kansas needs to be removed from the US House.

    Trumpy must be told that if he keeps up this horseshit with the mass importation of foreign workers there will be mass refusal of voters to support the GOP in November. Ann Coulter has a good sense of what the GOP voters want, and Coulter will tell you that the GOP voters do not support the mass importation of foreigners through the visa scam or the green card scam or the guest worker scam.

    Trump Must Call For An Immigration Moratorium

    Trump Must Deport ALL Illegal Alien Invaders

    Trump Must Stop the Mass Importation Of Foreigners Through The Visa Scam or the Green Card Scam or the Guest Worker Scam.
    , @LondonBob
    Yoder is a Jedi name.
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  3. BTW, Kevin Yoder is an anagram of “yoke-driven”.

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    Oh, that's good.
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  4. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Bill Gates: Net worth 90 Billion Dollars

    Steve Ballmer: Net worth 38 Billion Dollars

    Paul Allem: Net worth 20 Billion Dollars

    Student Loan Debt: 1.5 Trillion Dollars

    The GOP does a stunt with this “impeach Rosenstein” which is noting more than kabuki theatre while they shiv their base in committee.

    We should be eliminating H-1B, not un-capping it.

    We need a pro-natal policy for the responsible middle class that provides the GOP’s electoral support, the same kind of policies used in Israel, Hungary, Poland and Russia.

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    https://twitter.com/TheToddSchulte/status/1022162661046476800

    Mark Zuckerberg: Net worth lead balloon

    Nationalize FANG
    , @MBlanc46
    It’s what the Repubs do. It’s who they are. They’re not nationalists. They oppose nationalism because that’s what their corporate paymasters tell them to do.
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  5. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    https://twitter.com/Fredhum/status/1022180741424271361

    Bill Gates: Net worth 90 Billion Dollars

    Steve Ballmer: Net worth 38 Billion Dollars

    Paul Allem: Net worth 20 Billion Dollars

    Student Loan Debt: 1.5 Trillion Dollars

    The GOP does a stunt with this "impeach Rosenstein" which is noting more than kabuki theatre while they shiv their base in committee.

    We should be eliminating H-1B, not un-capping it.

    We need a pro-natal policy for the responsible middle class that provides the GOP's electoral support, the same kind of policies used in Israel, Hungary, Poland and Russia.

    Mark Zuckerberg: Net worth lead balloon

    Nationalize FANG

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  6. AndrewR says:

    We often joke about how WaPo is Bezos’ personal blog, but to what extent is that true? How much potential control over the staffing and editorial process does he have? How much does he choose to use? Is he completely hands-off? I am genuinely fascinated by such questions. As it stands, the disgusting and shameless bias of WaPo makes me consider Bezos to be my personal enemy.

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    • Replies: @notanon
    all the owners need to do is pick a suitable editor and leave it up to them
    , @Barnard
    He doesn't need to tell them what to write, the editorial staff knows not to cross him or his interests. If he was upset about something in the Washington Post, he would let them know subtle way and it would be corrected.
    , @Jack D
    Did Stalin have to personally supervise the editorial process of Pravda on a daily basis or could he just leave it to his minions who knew enough to follow the Party line? In fact they would have been holier than the Pope just to be safe.

    I think if you are the editor of the WaPo you really don't want any phone calls from Bezos and you govern yourself so that he never has to call you. It's not that tough because you already believe what he believes anyway.

    , @James Forrestal
    Or is it just Bezos? It's an interesting coincidence that, a few months after Bezos bought WaPo in 2013, Amazon got a $600 million contract for "cloud computing" from... the CIA. Amazon was not the low bidder.
    theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/

    But it sounds like a rather implausible connection, doesn't it? I mean, everyone knows that the CIA is involved in espionage and covert operations, not domestic propaganda. And the Washington Post certainly doesn't have any prior history of connections to the CIA...

    Except that Philip Graham, publisher of the Post from the late 40s to mid-60s, was recruited by the CIA's (((Frank Wisner))) to run the newspaper side of the CIA's domestic disinformation campaign (later termed Operation Mockingbird).
    https://infogalactic.com/info/CIA_influence_on_public_opinion#Operation_Mockingbird
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  7. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:

    The GOP does a stunt with this “impeach Rosenstein” which is noting more than kabuki theatre while they shiv their base in committe.

    Impeaching Rosenstein will only damage Trump. Very badly. It would cast a pall of corruption over an investigation that in all likelihood will eventually clear Trump. The opposition will treat it as a finding of guilt.

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  8. This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the “non-preference” general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It’s a terrible idea.

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    Unbelievable. There will be Indians coming out of the wazoo if this goes through. As it is, everywhere you look around in Silicon Valley, there are Indians coming out of the wazoo.
    , @Marco
    Most Latin-Americans are not affected by the cap, only the Mexicans. Mexicans have to wait years for the green card (although less than Chinese and Indians) but Brazilians and Argentinians can get one in 6 months if they have a sponsor.

    But I agree with you that removing the quota would be a big mistake. The US would become a flooded with Indians and Chinese, and both tend to vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

    , @Numinous

    with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline.
     
    It's not a very "blind" policy if it discriminates against countries having more than 7% of the world's population. At this point, there are only 2 such countries. The US itself is #3, but a very distant third.

    "same number of green cards....": no, the law does no such thing; it just sets a ceiling on the number of green cards awarded to citizens of any given country.

    What's wrong with allowing green card applications from countries in proportion to their share of the world's population?

    (As a thought experiment, consider if India were to split into multiple countries, each corresponding to a state, ~30 of them. They'd all fall below the 7% cap, and then you'd get a lot more Indians.)
    , @attilathehen
    I hope so too. However, Trump has not started building the wall on the southern border. This orange wussy is not going to do much on the immigration issue.
    , @ziggurat
    I totally agree that it would be a mistake to lift the per-country cap on green cards. It seems like we're still on defense. When are we going to get some touchdowns?!

    As many have pointed out and I have personally observed, even educated immigrants strongly vote Democratic.

    It's a mystery to me why only 58% of whites vote Republican. I'm thinking it might pick up, given all the anti-white, Democratic rhetoric. I'm curious if there will be any % increase in the upcoming midterm elections.

    https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit

    No more than 7 percent of the visas may be issued to natives of any one independent country in a fiscal year
     
    , @anon

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It’s a terrible idea.
     
    Trump has sold out his base almost completely on immigration. His "muslim ban" was mostly kabuki theater, along with meaningless actions on the border wall. We may have restricted refugees from Somalia or Syria, but we are increasing our intake from Afghanistan, which is equally bad.

    He has done absolutely nothing on H1b, OPT, and H1b spousal work permit, when all he had to do was undoing the Executive Orders of Bushobama. He's been pushing hard for DACA amnesty since Day 1, and the immigration plan that the WH presented earlier in the year called specifically for scrapping the per country limit on green cards.

    Trump won on the basis of immigration, but all he cares about is trade and Iran. He has completely let go of immigration and healthcare. Now the GOP fucktards are tyring to pull a fast one on the country to please their rich Indian and Chinese donors, so they can hasten our demise as United States of MexChindia. If these people are so great, their countries wouldn't be such shitholes.

    , @RodleyMerced
    This is only for high-skilled labor bill, a separate category of Green Card. This has nothing to do with regular Green-Cards. High-Skilled labor bill is so skewed that representatives from some countries were not allowed to get the green-card even after 30 years of wait. Companies are exploiting them, since without Green-Cards they don't have the luxury to move to a new job. So they are paid less than American workers. Effectively, keeping the wage low for everyone.
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  9. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    25 Billion in profit for FY 17

    Probably even more in FY 18

    Mr. Dimon has a net worth of over a billion dollars

    Meanwhile the cost of education, healthcare and housing in bicoastal cities spirals out of reach of the young. No affordable family formaiton.

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    I knew an ex-member of his secretarial pool where she used to work; they loved him because he would treat them all to Adult beverages after work.
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  10. Anonymous[282] • Disclaimer says:

    Not so wise Yoder.

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  11. Thomm says:

    Removal of per-country limits is a huge improvement, provided that we stop all unskilled immigration (and certainly all illegal immigration).

    Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy.

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    unless they are employed in completely new jobs that wouldn't have existed without immigration then mass skilled immigration is as bad as mass unskilled immigration

    say you have productivity on a 5-point scale (call it p1, p2, p3 etc) with the average at p3

    1) add workers below productivity 3 and your average productivity automatically goes down (and your pre-existing societal level automatically goes down with it)

    2) add a p4 worker in a completely new job and your average productivity goes up

    3) add a p4 worker who replaces an existing one who then displaces a p3 who then displaces a p2 who then displaces a p1 and the previous native p1 goes on welfare or joins a gang and your average productivity goes down just the same as if you added an unskilled foreign worker.

    if over supply of labor worked the 3rd world wouldn't be the 3rd world

    (plus over supply of labor pushes down wages and increases housing costs which kills demand over time and more so when the original wages were high)
    , @Jack D
    That is one hell of a big proviso. Yes, you are right - if we lived in cloud cuckoo land we could make this trade and be better off. But in real life what will happen is that you will get increased green card immigration PLUS the same quantity or more of illegal immigration so the overall number of immigrants will be increased.

    Regardless of what is enacted into law, the Left and the Permanent Government (all those Federal district judges who somehow have the power to override the President) has shown that they have no intention of getting rid of illegal immigration or any illegal immigrants who are already here. None whatsoever. Maybe if you kill someone, it might be OK to send you back after your sentence is over, but only in rare cases where you have committed an especially heinous crime. Not only do they ALL not have to go back, in real life hardly any are ever going to have go back. The political situation in Nicaragua right now is very precarious, so the entire population of Nicaragua has a plausible claim for asylum right now - every last man, woman and child can present himself at the border and obtain refuge. Abolish ICE!
    , @jbwilson24
    "Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy."

    According to who?

    Canada has flooded in legions of low IQ south asians, together with their aging, necrotic grandparents who have never paid a dime in tax (but who soak up 500k in end of life health care costs).

    The legions of Indians in Toronto have added little except elevated sexual assault rates and insurance fraud. They shut down highways to protest their idiotic political issues back home.
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  12. MG says:
    @PiltdownMan
    This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the "non-preference" general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It's a terrible idea.

    Unbelievable. There will be Indians coming out of the wazoo if this goes through. As it is, everywhere you look around in Silicon Valley, there are Indians coming out of the wazoo.

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  13. Anon[422] • Disclaimer says:

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.

    I’m old enough to remember when Walmart was a huge bugaboo in the mid 2000s.

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    • Replies: @Neoconned
    I used to stock and run the dairy at the time was the 3rd busiest Wal Mart in America....theyre evil but their saints compared to Amazon's postal service subsidy racketeering scheme
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders. It was like B&N, except warmer and cozier, and it was always a nice place to gather with friends.
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.
     
    I've been bringing that up for years.

    David Stockman of Contra Corner has repeatedly written well-documented articles outlining the profitless fraud that is Amazon's business model.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can't stop to take a bathroom break. In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn't exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Amazon = satan.

    I don't use them. And no one should.
    , @Jimi
    Walmart did wipe out a lot of Main Street shops in small towns. Amazon is now doing the same thing to the retail shops in urban centers.

    In urban centers retail storefronts are being replaced by restaurants, bars and bank branches.

    The big difference is Walmart is a culturally conservative while Amazon is culturally liberal. Therefore Amazon gets a pass on its effects.
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  14. @Reg Cæsar
    BTW, Kevin Yoder is an anagram of "yoke-driven".

    Oh, that’s good.

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  15. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Chutzpah

    If that guy is real, I’d love to see him get audited. The H-2A visa contains something called the “adverse wage” adjustment. Usually higher than 10/hr, which is literally lower than what Walmart is paying.

    A helot in every household

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    Tomatoes aren’t picked by humans any more. They aren’t packed by humans any more either.
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  16. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve,

    Yoder has become a passionate advocate for the Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act and members of the high-skilled Indian immigrant community. This legislation would remove a backlog of between 230,000 and 2 million Indian nationals. Surprise, surprise his actions are supported by the Cato Institute!

    Just to complete his perfidious actions: Yoder is also a cosponsor of the Family Reunification Act which directs the federal government to immediately reunite families which have been separated at the southern border. Surprise, surprise this action gains support of all the goo-goos!

    So Yoder is screwing the country by supporting its invasion by both low- and high-skilled interlopers!

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  17. @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Have the Amish been applying to hire H-1Bs, too? For the barn-raising Americans won't do.

    Isn’t Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Kevin Yoder is a Midwestern innocent who has no idea what he’s doing.

    Yoder is an Amish name, and Kevin Yoder is from Yoder, Kansas, which is an Amish settlement. It looks like this.

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    Not in the long run, it won't.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    ... no idea what he's doing.
     
    I could believe that partially. He's probably been assured that he will stay in office for as long as he wants by the big donors who want this nation-wrecking bill. I'm not saying it's a bribe per se, so maybe he does have no idea what he's doing by listening to the BS from the big money guys vs. talking to some normal citizens of Kansas.

    I don't even know the guy; this is just how it seems to be working everywhere. Oh, and his wife may be very happy, as now they will have better STATUS in Washington, FS and be invited to more cocktail parties to smooze with the elites and Lyin' Press. We'd be better off if Yoder were still in Yoder, behind that horse team.

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    'No land for love or money': how gentrification hit the Mennonites

    “We need new communities if we’re going to continue to raise our families on the farm.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/jul/26/no-land-for-love-or-money-how-gentrification-hit-the-mennonites
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  20. @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Have the Amish been applying to hire H-1Bs, too? For the barn-raising Americans won't do.
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  21. Neoconned says:

    Can we make a deal?

    There are only around 6 million white Africans left including boers….90+% want to immigrate to the west….can we bring them to the USA and in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia? Say 10 million of them without any swaggering ms13 or gold chain wearing types….this will help our birthrates by making the marriage market more open for white and Asian nerds….

    We can save the Boers and their kinfolk and bring in lots of hot Mexican and Vietnamese women at the same time

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    There are only around 6 million white Africans left including boers….90+% want to immigrate to the west….can we bring them to the USA and in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia? Say 10 million of them without any swaggering ms13 or gold chain wearing types….this will help our birthrates by making the marriage market more open for white and Asian nerds….

    This sounds like a great plan for Israel. Some attractive women would really help them out. I'm thinking Filipino women, or maybe some Central American women like Jeb's wife. The Mexico of Asia or actual Mexico, maybe Guatemala. It would be Tikkun Olam, giving these poor brown people a leg up in life.
    , @Thomm
    That policy is too attractive for it to ever be considered.
    , @Anon
    Just what we need, more welfare mammas and anchor babies.
    , @Mr. Rational

    in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia?
     
    The last thing we need is more resentful mestizos, and even one more Elliot Roger is one too many.
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  22. Neoconned says:
    @Anon
    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.

    I'm old enough to remember when Walmart was a huge bugaboo in the mid 2000s.

    I used to stock and run the dairy at the time was the 3rd busiest Wal Mart in America….theyre evil but their saints compared to Amazon’s postal service subsidy racketeering scheme

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  23. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT Clapper throws Obama to the wolves.

    “One point I’d like to make, Anderson, that I don’t think has come up very much before, and I’m alluding now to the President’s criticism of President Obama for all that he did or didn’t do before he left office with respect to the Russian meddling. If it weren’t for President Obama, we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set off a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today, notably, special counsel Mueller’s investigation,” Clapper said Wednesday on CNN.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/24/clapper_obama_ordered_the_intelligence_assessment_that_resulted_in_mueller_investigation.html

    We knew Obama was involved, and it was public knowledge that, in a technical sense, Obama had vaguely directed, uh, folks, y’know, to look into it (this was back when the line was “no, it’s not possible to ‘hack the election.’”). Now as there are preparations to impeach Rosenstein, yank security clearances that should have been yanked upon leaving office, and possibly end this mess, Clapper wants to remind you that this was Obama’s idea. Interesting.
    Also, the explosion at the US Embassy in Beijing is not surprising given what Ralph Townsemd says about Chinese nationalism in Ways That Are Dark, or what we saw in that one anti-Japanese riot that may have injured an ambassador. This is Chinese democracy — spontaneous, destructive, self-defeating, incomprehensible. This probably wasn’t the government, or even allowed to happen by the government. It’s probably a real Chinese citizen sincerely upset about trade. At least he couldn’t throw.

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    It’s probably a real Chinese citizen sincerely upset about trade. At least he couldn’t throw.
     
    See, that's what happens in a soccer-playing country (or worse yet, Ping-Pong and Bad-freakin'-minton-playing). Nobody can throw very well. I will admit that the Chinese are usually pretty good at throwing fireworks.
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  24. IHTG says:

    This is the sort of thing that happens in part because the right obsesses over drama instead of keeping their eye on the ball.

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    This is the sort of thing that happens in part because the right obsesses over drama instead of keeping their eye on the ball.
     
    i'll connect the dots

    if you follow the economic press you'll have seen numerous articles discussing the "mystery" of falling productivity in the west (which is not a mystery at all)

    say you have a 5-point productivity scale and a million workers at each level 1+2+3+4+5 = 15/5 = average productivity of 3

    if you add another million productivity 1 workers you get 1+1+2+3+4+5 = 16/6 = average productivity of 2.66

    the explanation for the falling productivity in the west couldn't be simpler or more obvious - importing low productivity workers *automatically* lowers your average productivity (which is economic suicide) but none of the "experts" will say it - why?

    some are bought obviously and some are ideologically in favor of the multicult but for the rest it's cos the power of the media to brand them racist if they say anything negative about immigration

    so yes your're right - the con masses are dumb and easily distracted but at the same time the most critical thing the non-dumb part of the con coalition can do is destroy the moral authority of the media which would undermine their power to force everyone to lie about everything.
    , @Anon
    This would seem to have some affinity with the point Steve may be trying to make about James Gunn and the Hollywood pedo speculation.
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  25. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve said it before and will say it again: Kansas is a very, very, very stupid state.

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  26. IHTG says:

    More on Yoder – “Day after Air Force One trip, Yoder defies Trump on immigration”: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article215440555.html

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  27. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    On May 1, a man wearing a police helmet was filmed roughing up unarmed protesters at an anti-Macron rally in Paris. In mid-July, he was identified as Macron’s bodyguard Benalla.

    May 1, of course, is Labor Day in continental Europe.

    https://www.rt.com/news/434158-alexandre-benalla-macron-watergate/

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    Further developments:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5993315/Emmanuel-Macron-says-fired-security-chief-Alexandre-Benalla-not-lover.html

    French President Emmanuel Macron has been forced to rubbish claims his disgraced ex-bodyguard was his lover.

    Alexandre Benalla, 26, was sacked as Macron's head of security last week after a video of him wearing a police helmet and beating protesters emerged.

    He has now been arrested and taken into police custody, with the President branding his actions 'disappointing' and a 'betrayal'.

    In a statement to MPs he said Benalla was not his lover nor did he have access to any codes for France's nuclear weapons.
     
    , @Reg Cæsar

    May 1, of course, is Labor Day in continental Europe.
     
    And it's in September in the US and Canada. Precisely to discourage worldwide coalitions.

    But Australia has us beat-- Labour Day (or "Labor"; they spell it both ways) falls in a different month in different states.
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  28. fnn says:
    @Anonymous
    OT:

    On May 1, a man wearing a police helmet was filmed roughing up unarmed protesters at an anti-Macron rally in Paris. In mid-July, he was identified as Macron's bodyguard Benalla.
     

    May 1, of course, is Labor Day in continental Europe.

    https://www.rt.com/news/434158-alexandre-benalla-macron-watergate/

    Further developments:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5993315/Emmanuel-Macron-says-fired-security-chief-Alexandre-Benalla-not-lover.html

    French President Emmanuel Macron has been forced to rubbish claims his disgraced ex-bodyguard was his lover.

    Alexandre Benalla, 26, was sacked as Macron’s head of security last week after a video of him wearing a police helmet and beating protesters emerged.

    He has now been arrested and taken into police custody, with the President branding his actions ‘disappointing’ and a ‘betrayal’.

    In a statement to MPs he said Benalla was not his lover nor did he have access to any codes for France’s nuclear weapons.

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    Seriously tho, we can't let Macron's gay lover get access to the nuclear codes.
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  29. NickG says:

    OT – Steve bait – Douglass Murray & Jordan Peterson unlisted YouTube video 1 on 1 on various topics including race and IQ.

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  30. @PiltdownMan

    Isn’t Yoder a Mennonite name?
     
    Kevin Yoder is a Midwestern innocent who has no idea what he's doing.

    Yoder is an Amish name, and Kevin Yoder is from Yoder, Kansas, which is an Amish settlement. It looks like this.

    https://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/3846731020_ff8d454ef6_b-700x525.jpg


    https://larryschwarm.com/portraits/yoder3.jpg

    Not in the long run, it won’t.

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    Kevin Yoder is from Yoder, Kansas, which is an Amish settlement. It looks like this.
     
    Not in the long run, it won’t.
     
    They have a lot of room and a lot of kids. They're in a better position than most of us.
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  31. @Anon
    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.

    I'm old enough to remember when Walmart was a huge bugaboo in the mid 2000s.

    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders. It was like B&N, except warmer and cozier, and it was always a nice place to gather with friends.

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    We will miss the book superstores when they are gone. I can remember finding the first huge Barnes & Noble in Chicago around 1995 and how much it made my life better.

    Unless you had a high end independent bookstore in your neighborhood, chain bookstores were pretty awful before the 1990s.

    , @Steve Sailer
    We will miss the book superstores when they are gone. I can remember finding the first huge Barnes & Noble in Chicago around 1995 and how much it made my life better.

    Unless you had a high end independent bookstore in your neighborhood, chain bookstores were pretty awful before the 1990s.

    There were great independent bookstores:

    http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-dave-dutton-20170113-story.html

    , @Anonymous
    Borders was the best place to go read the books on the shelves. It wasn't the best place to buy a book because the selection wasn't very good. They did have a pretty good magazine rack and the coffee was better than B&N's.

    Both B&N and Borders were far better than the B.Daltons and Waldenbooks stores in the malls, though.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders.
     
    Amazon and Borders were tied together for awhile there. A common website, if not common ownership. Kind of like the "alliances" among airlines. Did Amazon kill Borders on purpose?

    The popular B&N in St Paul's Highland Park neighborhood closed because the landlord thought he'd make more money from a Target express store. But Amazon is going after that market, too.

    Some people claim that China has the capacity to do all the world's manufacturing. Does Amazon have the same capacity to do all our retailing?

    , @Pat Boyle
    I used to go to Borders and B&N all the times. I was also fond of the used book stores in the tenderloin (SF). They had things you wouldn't see elsewhere. But I gave all that up. I use Amazon now exclusively.

    It all started when I fell off the cliff. To be accurate when my little dog pulled me over the edge. I didn't go out of the house for a year. I took a lot of dope. And I ordered stuff from Amazon - books, CDs, DVDs etc. I ordered groceries from Safeway. Otherwise I would have starved.

    Amazon came along just in time for me. I can get up and out now but I still order books and groceries and tools from Amazon. It was inevitable. The Amazon business model makes so much sense for so many people that it had to appear. I was in Web marketing before Bezos so in theory I could have been him. But like maybe 90% of the early programmers who went bust rather than rich - I had the wrong formula. I tried to sell artisan products and later to establish a dating site. My software worked but my business aim was off target.

    Bezos got it right, not necessarily because he was a genius, someone else could have been him. I don't know the history of Amazon but I imagine there were competitors early on who might have hit the gold seam instead of him.

    So what is it like to be a failed web entrepreneur? Not so bad. I'm not a billionaire but I get lots of goodies delivered to my front door by Amazon.
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  32. @Anon
    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.

    I'm old enough to remember when Walmart was a huge bugaboo in the mid 2000s.

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.

    I’ve been bringing that up for years.

    David Stockman of Contra Corner has repeatedly written well-documented articles outlining the profitless fraud that is Amazon’s business model.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can’t stop to take a bathroom break. In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn’t exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

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    Exactly. Very well said, sir.

    It is not just their $12/hour people either. It's their software, programming supply chain also. A real good programmer friend of mine's firm is doing projects for Amazon. They are working those dudes to death.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    That was a damn good comment, ID! It sums up very well what CRONY Capitalism is about, and how the neo-Bolsheviks can make headway bashing "capitalism". I also appreciate your ZeroHedge-like view of our financial situation.

    I'll have to read more of David Stockman and I wish he could replace one of the Commie writers on Unz. I remember the man from the Reagan administration.
    , @Anon
    A large portion of retail sales are third-party, which hopefully will be forced to collect sales taxes thanks to the court decision. And a sizeable number of those sales are direct from China, which is still a "poor" country according to the international postal treaty.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/11/05/how-the-usps-epacket-gives-postal-subsidies-to-chinese-e-commerce-merchants-to-ship-to-the-usa-cheap/#147bddab40ca

    It's interesting that the left's main solution to the Post Office's losses is to turn them into a bank.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Working for Amazon is horrific - much(!) worse than conditions in factories in China, which is saying something. Still, it is entertaining in the sense that it is the only company that I've heard of where evil is explicitly encouraged; backstabbing and destruction of your fellow man, with the ultimate goal of removing all humans(basically) is the norm. One really could hardly get more cyberpunk, or get a better vision of a post-human future where the "burn-out, then churn" employees becomes a norm, perhaps out of existence.

    ...and yes, sadly, this is out of damn good personal experience.

    On the upside, they don't really have much of the SJW niceities like Google has. At least its a bootheel of not of fat blue-haired women, but of eternal murderous bastards who would(and have) betray their own mothers for a few more dollars. I'm mildly more okay with that.

    , @Charles Pewitt

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can’t stop to take a bathroom break.

     


    In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn’t exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

     

    Jeff Bezos Pushes Open Borders Mass Immigration And Amnesty For Illegal Aliens

    Amazon Corporation Must Be Destroyed

    Comcast Must Be Destroyed

    Viacom Must Be Destroyed

    The Corporate Media Is The Enemy Of The American People
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  33. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders. It was like B&N, except warmer and cozier, and it was always a nice place to gather with friends.

    We will miss the book superstores when they are gone. I can remember finding the first huge Barnes & Noble in Chicago around 1995 and how much it made my life better.

    Unless you had a high end independent bookstore in your neighborhood, chain bookstores were pretty awful before the 1990s.

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    One of Atlanta's old blue-bloods, Rupert LeCraw, owned Oxford Books, which went under in the 1990's. Apparently the book business involves rolling over endless lines of credit while you wait for your enormous inventory to trickle out of the store, and Oxford couldn't keep all the balls in the air. It was a truly great local business, and everybody was sorry to see it go.
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  34. Ed says:

    It’ll be stripped out before it ever gets to Trump. Cotton and Miller will make sure of it.

    It’s good that the pro-immigration republicans are exposing themselves though they should make prime primary targets going forward.

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    It’ll be stripped out before it ever gets to Trump. Cotton and Miller will make sure of it.
     
    This provision was part of Cotton's RAISE Act proposal, so I wouldn't bet on it.
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  35. notanon says:
    @AndrewR
    We often joke about how WaPo is Bezos' personal blog, but to what extent is that true? How much potential control over the staffing and editorial process does he have? How much does he choose to use? Is he completely hands-off? I am genuinely fascinated by such questions. As it stands, the disgusting and shameless bias of WaPo makes me consider Bezos to be my personal enemy.

    all the owners need to do is pick a suitable editor and leave it up to them

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  36. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders. It was like B&N, except warmer and cozier, and it was always a nice place to gather with friends.

    We will miss the book superstores when they are gone. I can remember finding the first huge Barnes & Noble in Chicago around 1995 and how much it made my life better.

    Unless you had a high end independent bookstore in your neighborhood, chain bookstores were pretty awful before the 1990s.

    There were great independent bookstores:

    http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-dave-dutton-20170113-story.html

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    Pickwick and Hunter's were two small SoCal chains. Between them they had maybe twenty stores. I know that Pickwick had the store managers do the book ordering, and the managers delegated a lot of that task to trusted employees. That stopped when they were bought by B. Dalton. After that, somebody in Minneapolis chose the books they were allowed to sell.
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  37. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy
    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders. It was like B&N, except warmer and cozier, and it was always a nice place to gather with friends.

    Borders was the best place to go read the books on the shelves. It wasn’t the best place to buy a book because the selection wasn’t very good. They did have a pretty good magazine rack and the coffee was better than B&N’s.

    Both B&N and Borders were far better than the B.Daltons and Waldenbooks stores in the malls, though.

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  38. notanon says:
    @Thomm
    Removal of per-country limits is a huge improvement, provided that we stop all unskilled immigration (and certainly all illegal immigration).

    Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy.

    unless they are employed in completely new jobs that wouldn’t have existed without immigration then mass skilled immigration is as bad as mass unskilled immigration

    say you have productivity on a 5-point scale (call it p1, p2, p3 etc) with the average at p3

    1) add workers below productivity 3 and your average productivity automatically goes down (and your pre-existing societal level automatically goes down with it)

    2) add a p4 worker in a completely new job and your average productivity goes up

    3) add a p4 worker who replaces an existing one who then displaces a p3 who then displaces a p2 who then displaces a p1 and the previous native p1 goes on welfare or joins a gang and your average productivity goes down just the same as if you added an unskilled foreign worker.

    if over supply of labor worked the 3rd world wouldn’t be the 3rd world

    (plus over supply of labor pushes down wages and increases housing costs which kills demand over time and more so when the original wages were high)

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    You were doing fine on 1) and 2), but you are wrong about 3).

    I say immigration should ONLY be for p4 and p5 workers. They earn a lot, but then spend a lot as well. They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.
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  39. notanon says:

    the sheer scale of the betrayal of the West is mind boggling – and it makes me wonder if variations on this theme destroyed earlier civilizations and if it will keep happening to future civilizations until we are no longer in the goldilocks zone

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    Powerful observation in the first sentence.

    What do you mean exactly by "the Goldilocks zone"? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

    , @kissinger
    “Great civilizations are not murdered. They commit suicide.”: Arnold Toynbee
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  40. “… Amazonians thank you…”

    Apparently to Jeff Bezos, citizenship in “Amazonia” is something, while citizenship in the United States of America is nothing.

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    Deadly.

    Thanks.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Hey, cyberpunk might be coming after all.
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  41. notanon says:
    @IHTG
    This is the sort of thing that happens in part because the right obsesses over drama instead of keeping their eye on the ball.

    https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1022255452384583685
    https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1022321274905944070

    This is the sort of thing that happens in part because the right obsesses over drama instead of keeping their eye on the ball.

    i’ll connect the dots

    if you follow the economic press you’ll have seen numerous articles discussing the “mystery” of falling productivity in the west (which is not a mystery at all)

    say you have a 5-point productivity scale and a million workers at each level 1+2+3+4+5 = 15/5 = average productivity of 3

    if you add another million productivity 1 workers you get 1+1+2+3+4+5 = 16/6 = average productivity of 2.66

    the explanation for the falling productivity in the west couldn’t be simpler or more obvious – importing low productivity workers *automatically* lowers your average productivity (which is economic suicide) but none of the “experts” will say it – why?

    some are bought obviously and some are ideologically in favor of the multicult but for the rest it’s cos the power of the media to brand them racist if they say anything negative about immigration

    so yes your’re right – the con masses are dumb and easily distracted but at the same time the most critical thing the non-dumb part of the con coalition can do is destroy the moral authority of the media which would undermine their power to force everyone to lie about everything.

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  42. I shorted Amazon a few years back at $114 … I corrected that error not long after at $120.

    The force, even though on the dark side, is strong with that one.

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    Around 1999 I calculated how much richer I'd be if all the money I spent buying books from Amazon I had instead bought Amazon stock with. It was a rather large number.
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  43. Anonym says:
    @Neoconned
    Can we make a deal?

    There are only around 6 million white Africans left including boers....90+% want to immigrate to the west....can we bring them to the USA and in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia? Say 10 million of them without any swaggering ms13 or gold chain wearing types....this will help our birthrates by making the marriage market more open for white and Asian nerds....

    We can save the Boers and their kinfolk and bring in lots of hot Mexican and Vietnamese women at the same time

    There are only around 6 million white Africans left including boers….90+% want to immigrate to the west….can we bring them to the USA and in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia? Say 10 million of them without any swaggering ms13 or gold chain wearing types….this will help our birthrates by making the marriage market more open for white and Asian nerds….

    This sounds like a great plan for Israel. Some attractive women would really help them out. I’m thinking Filipino women, or maybe some Central American women like Jeb’s wife. The Mexico of Asia or actual Mexico, maybe Guatemala. It would be Tikkun Olam, giving these poor brown people a leg up in life.

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  44. @Anon
    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.

    I'm old enough to remember when Walmart was a huge bugaboo in the mid 2000s.

    Amazon = satan.

    I don’t use them. And no one should.

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  45. @Intelligent Dasein

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.
     
    I've been bringing that up for years.

    David Stockman of Contra Corner has repeatedly written well-documented articles outlining the profitless fraud that is Amazon's business model.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can't stop to take a bathroom break. In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn't exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

    Exactly. Very well said, sir.

    It is not just their $12/hour people either. It’s their software, programming supply chain also. A real good programmer friend of mine’s firm is doing projects for Amazon. They are working those dudes to death.

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  46. George says:
    @PiltdownMan
    https://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/7894402564_f83680bfbf_b-700x394.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNAkVwzVAAEWnCd.jpg

    ‘No land for love or money’: how gentrification hit the Mennonites

    “We need new communities if we’re going to continue to raise our families on the farm.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/jul/26/no-land-for-love-or-money-how-gentrification-hit-the-mennonites

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  47. @PiltdownMan

    Isn’t Yoder a Mennonite name?
     
    Kevin Yoder is a Midwestern innocent who has no idea what he's doing.

    Yoder is an Amish name, and Kevin Yoder is from Yoder, Kansas, which is an Amish settlement. It looks like this.

    https://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/3846731020_ff8d454ef6_b-700x525.jpg


    https://larryschwarm.com/portraits/yoder3.jpg

    … no idea what he’s doing.

    I could believe that partially. He’s probably been assured that he will stay in office for as long as he wants by the big donors who want this nation-wrecking bill. I’m not saying it’s a bribe per se, so maybe he does have no idea what he’s doing by listening to the BS from the big money guys vs. talking to some normal citizens of Kansas.

    I don’t even know the guy; this is just how it seems to be working everywhere. Oh, and his wife may be very happy, as now they will have better STATUS in Washington, FS and be invited to more cocktail parties to smooze with the elites and Lyin’ Press. We’d be better off if Yoder were still in Yoder, behind that horse team.

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  48. @Intelligent Dasein

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.
     
    I've been bringing that up for years.

    David Stockman of Contra Corner has repeatedly written well-documented articles outlining the profitless fraud that is Amazon's business model.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can't stop to take a bathroom break. In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn't exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

    That was a damn good comment, ID! It sums up very well what CRONY Capitalism is about, and how the neo-Bolsheviks can make headway bashing “capitalism”. I also appreciate your ZeroHedge-like view of our financial situation.

    I’ll have to read more of David Stockman and I wish he could replace one of the Commie writers on Unz. I remember the man from the Reagan administration.

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    Having commie writers here is a good thing. Rule one, know your enemy, the UNZ commies make it easy to see where the lunatics are going.
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  49. @J.Ross
    OT Clapper throws Obama to the wolves.

    "One point I'd like to make, Anderson, that I don't think has come up very much before, and I'm alluding now to the President's criticism of President Obama for all that he did or didn't do before he left office with respect to the Russian meddling. If it weren't for President Obama, we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set off a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today, notably, special counsel Mueller's investigation," Clapper said Wednesday on CNN.
     
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/24/clapper_obama_ordered_the_intelligence_assessment_that_resulted_in_mueller_investigation.html
    We knew Obama was involved, and it was public knowledge that, in a technical sense, Obama had vaguely directed, uh, folks, y'know, to look into it (this was back when the line was "no, it's not possible to 'hack the election.'"). Now as there are preparations to impeach Rosenstein, yank security clearances that should have been yanked upon leaving office, and possibly end this mess, Clapper wants to remind you that this was Obama's idea. Interesting.
    Also, the explosion at the US Embassy in Beijing is not surprising given what Ralph Townsemd says about Chinese nationalism in Ways That Are Dark, or what we saw in that one anti-Japanese riot that may have injured an ambassador. This is Chinese democracy -- spontaneous, destructive, self-defeating, incomprehensible. This probably wasn't the government, or even allowed to happen by the government. It's probably a real Chinese citizen sincerely upset about trade. At least he couldn't throw.

    It’s probably a real Chinese citizen sincerely upset about trade. At least he couldn’t throw.

    See, that’s what happens in a soccer-playing country (or worse yet, Ping-Pong and Bad-freakin’-minton-playing). Nobody can throw very well. I will admit that the Chinese are usually pretty good at throwing fireworks.

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  50. @Steve Sailer
    We will miss the book superstores when they are gone. I can remember finding the first huge Barnes & Noble in Chicago around 1995 and how much it made my life better.

    Unless you had a high end independent bookstore in your neighborhood, chain bookstores were pretty awful before the 1990s.

    One of Atlanta’s old blue-bloods, Rupert LeCraw, owned Oxford Books, which went under in the 1990′s. Apparently the book business involves rolling over endless lines of credit while you wait for your enormous inventory to trickle out of the store, and Oxford couldn’t keep all the balls in the air. It was a truly great local business, and everybody was sorry to see it go.

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    I had forgotten about Oxford - an old fav.

    Where was it again? Near Emory?
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  51. “… Amazonians thank you…”

    No, they don’t. Only he does.

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  52. Kurlos says:

    Hire local.

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  53. Whiskey says: • Website

    Abolishing ICE is supported by 48% of the country. So there is that.

    Victory is impossible. Survival is not.

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  54. Maybe giving one man a worldwide duty-free zone for his own personal use wasn’t the best idea.

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  55. istevefan says:

    Yoder represents a district in the Kansas City metro on the KS side of the border. In the past 20 years it has been transformed from nearly all white to something people from a generation ago would not recognize. There is quite a large Indian presence thanks to Garmin and other tech. Yoder pushed this because his district could and probably will become democrat.

    When the Indian workers were shot a year ago, Yoder and others expressed more outrage than when the illegal killed about 5 whites across both sides of the state line.

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    That district is a white flight region that was entirely created by a desegregation plan making whites in the KC area want to live across the state line. Look at KC on a map and you will see it. Basically all the growth since the 80's has been over the state line west of the city. Another city with a strange growth pattern caused by white avoidance of blacks in OKC. There has been virtually no suburban development to the northeast of the city adjacent to the black ghetto, but suburban sprawls spreads out for many miles to the south and west.
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  56. Esteban says:

    There is a large Amazon facility visible from I-35 in Edgerton, KS just south of Kansas City and in Yoder’s District. He is being a good boy and doing what he has been told.

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  57. Barnard says:
    @AndrewR
    We often joke about how WaPo is Bezos' personal blog, but to what extent is that true? How much potential control over the staffing and editorial process does he have? How much does he choose to use? Is he completely hands-off? I am genuinely fascinated by such questions. As it stands, the disgusting and shameless bias of WaPo makes me consider Bezos to be my personal enemy.

    He doesn’t need to tell them what to write, the editorial staff knows not to cross him or his interests. If he was upset about something in the Washington Post, he would let them know subtle way and it would be corrected.

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  58. @Buzz Mohawk
    "... Amazonians thank you..."

    Apparently to Jeff Bezos, citizenship in "Amazonia" is something, while citizenship in the United States of America is nothing.

    Deadly.

    Thanks.

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  59. Yoder represents Olathe, Overland Park etc.

    Massive indian presence there working for the usual suspect companies.

    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.

    Yoder personally assisted the dead scab’s wife in securing an H1-b visa for an entry level software QA job (!) so she could remain in the country.

    This crime was of course never investigated.

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    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.
     
    It wasn't a bar "fight", you moron!
    , @kissinger

    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.
     
    It wasn't a bar fight. It was a killing of an innocent man who was legally in the US. If you doesn't like immigrants (legal or illegal), then elect an elite that represents your interests. Don't condone murder.
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  60. So, the gay guy the richest man on earth? Simply- I don’t care. Retrospectively, Nixon was prescient about them (as he was on many things; Kissinger, unsurprisingly, sounds “diplomatically” wishy washy & weak on history- it’s Greeks, not Romans, Henry..)

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    Bezos is gay?
    , @PiltdownMan
    I'm struck by the fact that as early as 1971, Nixon, a man born in 1913, was using the politically correct term, "gay", in private conversation, rather than "homo", which was the standard nomenclature for homosexuals that was favored, in those days, by straight-talking men of his generation.
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  61. Interesting that groups that are actually having huge numbers of White kids (Amish, Mormons, nobody here) apparently have no problem with lots of immigrants coming in.

    And why not. Lots more customers for their goods. And no worries about being outnumbered.

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    They live in the least diverse parts of the USA and have Christianity-inspired naivete.
    , @Lowe
    Oh, you mean poor, ignorant people don't worry about the future? That could explain some things about their life station.
    , @Anon
    Amazon warehouse workers don’t have a set schedule. They have to text one hour before they are due to come in to see if they are on the schedule. So it’s really a day to day on call job
    , @Grumpy
    I don't think that's true at all. President Trump had no problem winning Utah and Idaho, despite the Mormon church's official embrace of immigration. On that issue, the Mormon leadership increasingly apes the position of Protestant and Catholic church professionals, who, in turn, increasingly ignore the opinions of the people in the pews who pay their salaries.

    Meanwhile, Amish support for Trump was in the news quite a bit in 2016. There is even an Amish Political Action Committee: http://www.amishpac.com/
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  62. Jimi says:
    @Anon
    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.

    I'm old enough to remember when Walmart was a huge bugaboo in the mid 2000s.

    Walmart did wipe out a lot of Main Street shops in small towns. Amazon is now doing the same thing to the retail shops in urban centers.

    In urban centers retail storefronts are being replaced by restaurants, bars and bank branches.

    The big difference is Walmart is a culturally conservative while Amazon is culturally liberal. Therefore Amazon gets a pass on its effects.

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  63. Jimi says:
    @anony-mouse
    Interesting that groups that are actually having huge numbers of White kids (Amish, Mormons, nobody here) apparently have no problem with lots of immigrants coming in.

    And why not. Lots more customers for their goods. And no worries about being outnumbered.

    They live in the least diverse parts of the USA and have Christianity-inspired naivete.

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  64. Barnard says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Have the Amish been applying to hire H-1Bs, too? For the barn-raising Americans won't do.

    It is, but the Amish and Mennonites are not the same. The Mennonite denomination Yoder most likely would have been raised in is just another liberal, mainline type denomination. Under the “what we believe” section of their website, they have “Undoing racism and advancing intercultural transformation” featured. I have heard other Christian pastors joke that pacifism is the only plank of their theology, but it appears they are expanding into social justice. According to Wikipedia, Yoder attends a United Methodist megachurch in suburban Kansas City now.

    http://mennoniteusa.org/what-we-believe/

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  65. @Buzz Mohawk
    "... Amazonians thank you..."

    Apparently to Jeff Bezos, citizenship in "Amazonia" is something, while citizenship in the United States of America is nothing.

    Hey, cyberpunk might be coming after all.

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    Hey, cyberpunk might be coming after all.
     
    In 2077 they voted Amazonia the worst place to live in America. Main issues—sky high rate of violence, and more people living below the poverty line than anywhere else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjxS9ciNlII
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  66. @Paul Jolliffe
    Not in the long run, it won't.

    Kevin Yoder is from Yoder, Kansas, which is an Amish settlement. It looks like this.

    Not in the long run, it won’t.

    They have a lot of room and a lot of kids. They’re in a better position than most of us.

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  67. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.
     
    I've been bringing that up for years.

    David Stockman of Contra Corner has repeatedly written well-documented articles outlining the profitless fraud that is Amazon's business model.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can't stop to take a bathroom break. In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn't exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

    A large portion of retail sales are third-party, which hopefully will be forced to collect sales taxes thanks to the court decision. And a sizeable number of those sales are direct from China, which is still a “poor” country according to the international postal treaty.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/11/05/how-the-usps-epacket-gives-postal-subsidies-to-chinese-e-commerce-merchants-to-ship-to-the-usa-cheap/#147bddab40ca

    It’s interesting that the left’s main solution to the Post Office’s losses is to turn them into a bank.

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  68. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders. It was like B&N, except warmer and cozier, and it was always a nice place to gather with friends.

    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders.

    Amazon and Borders were tied together for awhile there. A common website, if not common ownership. Kind of like the “alliances” among airlines. Did Amazon kill Borders on purpose?

    The popular B&N in St Paul’s Highland Park neighborhood closed because the landlord thought he’d make more money from a Target express store. But Amazon is going after that market, too.

    Some people claim that China has the capacity to do all the world’s manufacturing. Does Amazon have the same capacity to do all our retailing?

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    Retailing is a really really big business that will be hard to replace completely (and Amazon doesn't have to). Amazon now is half of all online sales but online sales are only 5% of total retail sales (some stuff - e.g. gasoline - is NEVER going to get sold online). So Amazon has lots and lots of room to grow, either by increasing that 5% or the 50%. To some extent it has already picked the low hanging fruit (books, small appliances, electronics) and other stuff will be harder (people like to squeeze the peaches and feel the fabrics) but they are working on ways to overcome obstacles.

    You will note that even in Amazon's supposed killer categories there is at least one B&M survivor - Borders is gone but B&N stands. Circuit City is dead but Best Buy survives. There are benefits to being chased by the bear if you are the faster runner - fewer other runners in the race and the bear forces you to get in better shape.

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  69. @Anonymous
    OT:

    On May 1, a man wearing a police helmet was filmed roughing up unarmed protesters at an anti-Macron rally in Paris. In mid-July, he was identified as Macron's bodyguard Benalla.
     

    May 1, of course, is Labor Day in continental Europe.

    https://www.rt.com/news/434158-alexandre-benalla-macron-watergate/

    May 1, of course, is Labor Day in continental Europe.

    And it’s in September in the US and Canada. Precisely to discourage worldwide coalitions.

    But Australia has us beat– Labour Day (or “Labor”; they spell it both ways) falls in a different month in different states.

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  70. @Intelligent Dasein

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.
     
    I've been bringing that up for years.

    David Stockman of Contra Corner has repeatedly written well-documented articles outlining the profitless fraud that is Amazon's business model.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can't stop to take a bathroom break. In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn't exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

    Working for Amazon is horrific – much(!) worse than conditions in factories in China, which is saying something. Still, it is entertaining in the sense that it is the only company that I’ve heard of where evil is explicitly encouraged; backstabbing and destruction of your fellow man, with the ultimate goal of removing all humans(basically) is the norm. One really could hardly get more cyberpunk, or get a better vision of a post-human future where the “burn-out, then churn” employees becomes a norm, perhaps out of existence.

    …and yes, sadly, this is out of damn good personal experience.

    On the upside, they don’t really have much of the SJW niceities like Google has. At least its a bootheel of not of fat blue-haired women, but of eternal murderous bastards who would(and have) betray their own mothers for a few more dollars. I’m mildly more okay with that.

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    Daniel,

    Yes, give the devil (Amazon) its due, but it still is a very evil organization!
    , @Charles Pewitt

    Working for Amazon is horrific – much(!) worse than conditions in factories in China, which is saying something.

     

    The above is a horribly fraudulent bit of propaganda. Chinese factories and assembly gulags are much worse than Amazon Corporation installations. The evil, satanic Amazon Corporation is a nightmare of inhuman misery, but the Chinese satanic mills are much, much worse.

    The horrible money-grubbers in the Chinese Communist Party use propaganda and state violence to lure innocent and beautiful Chinese country girls into the evil maw of wicked slave labor. The Chinese girls are so horribly treated that many of them jump off the top of their gulag towers to escape the misery and woe of the Chinese Communist slave labor system.

    The money-grubbing Chinese coastal skunks who lure the Chinese country girls into slave labor camps have to install netting and steel and aluminum structures to catch the Chinese country girls as they defenestrate themselves and hurl themselves off the top of the slave labor buildings. The Chinese studied how Americans used netting and support structures to catch falling drunks at sporting events and rock concerts. American drunks used to go splat routinely from the top of stadiums before the idea of using netting to catch them was implemented. The Chinese then used this drunk-catching technology to prevent the Chinese country girls from swan diving to the big sleep.
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  71. Marco says:
    @PiltdownMan
    This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the "non-preference" general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It's a terrible idea.

    Most Latin-Americans are not affected by the cap, only the Mexicans. Mexicans have to wait years for the green card (although less than Chinese and Indians) but Brazilians and Argentinians can get one in 6 months if they have a sponsor.

    But I agree with you that removing the quota would be a big mistake. The US would become a flooded with Indians and Chinese, and both tend to vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

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  72. Anon[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @IHTG
    This is the sort of thing that happens in part because the right obsesses over drama instead of keeping their eye on the ball.

    https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1022255452384583685
    https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1022321274905944070

    This would seem to have some affinity with the point Steve may be trying to make about James Gunn and the Hollywood pedo speculation.

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  73. Numinous says:
    @27 year old
    Yoder represents Olathe, Overland Park etc.

    Massive indian presence there working for the usual suspect companies.

    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.

    Yoder personally assisted the dead scab’s wife in securing an H1-b visa for an entry level software QA job (!) so she could remain in the country.

    This crime was of course never investigated.

    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.

    It wasn’t a bar “fight”, you moron!

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  74. Numinous says:
    @PiltdownMan
    This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the "non-preference" general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It's a terrible idea.

    with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline.

    It’s not a very “blind” policy if it discriminates against countries having more than 7% of the world’s population. At this point, there are only 2 such countries. The US itself is #3, but a very distant third.

    “same number of green cards….”: no, the law does no such thing; it just sets a ceiling on the number of green cards awarded to citizens of any given country.

    What’s wrong with allowing green card applications from countries in proportion to their share of the world’s population?

    (As a thought experiment, consider if India were to split into multiple countries, each corresponding to a state, ~30 of them. They’d all fall below the 7% cap, and then you’d get a lot more Indians.)

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  75. Numinous says:
    @Ed
    It’ll be stripped out before it ever gets to Trump. Cotton and Miller will make sure of it.

    It’s good that the pro-immigration republicans are exposing themselves though they should make prime primary targets going forward.

    It’ll be stripped out before it ever gets to Trump. Cotton and Miller will make sure of it.

    This provision was part of Cotton’s RAISE Act proposal, so I wouldn’t bet on it.

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  76. ATBOTL says:
    @istevefan
    Yoder represents a district in the Kansas City metro on the KS side of the border. In the past 20 years it has been transformed from nearly all white to something people from a generation ago would not recognize. There is quite a large Indian presence thanks to Garmin and other tech. Yoder pushed this because his district could and probably will become democrat.

    When the Indian workers were shot a year ago, Yoder and others expressed more outrage than when the illegal killed about 5 whites across both sides of the state line.

    That district is a white flight region that was entirely created by a desegregation plan making whites in the KC area want to live across the state line. Look at KC on a map and you will see it. Basically all the growth since the 80′s has been over the state line west of the city. Another city with a strange growth pattern caused by white avoidance of blacks in OKC. There has been virtually no suburban development to the northeast of the city adjacent to the black ghetto, but suburban sprawls spreads out for many miles to the south and west.

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  77. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Have the Amish been applying to hire H-1Bs, too? For the barn-raising Americans won't do.

    The Amish hand stitched quilts aren’t stitched by Amish women anymore but by low paid Vietnamese, Laos and Cambodians.

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  78. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    https://twitter.com/Renegade00777/status/1022287445226749952

    Chutzpah

    If that guy is real, I'd love to see him get audited. The H-2A visa contains something called the "adverse wage" adjustment. Usually higher than 10/hr, which is literally lower than what Walmart is paying.


    https://twitter.com/DeanDeChiaro/status/1022160369995968513

    A helot in every household

    Tomatoes aren’t picked by humans any more. They aren’t packed by humans any more either.

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  79. Dan Hayes says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    Working for Amazon is horrific - much(!) worse than conditions in factories in China, which is saying something. Still, it is entertaining in the sense that it is the only company that I've heard of where evil is explicitly encouraged; backstabbing and destruction of your fellow man, with the ultimate goal of removing all humans(basically) is the norm. One really could hardly get more cyberpunk, or get a better vision of a post-human future where the "burn-out, then churn" employees becomes a norm, perhaps out of existence.

    ...and yes, sadly, this is out of damn good personal experience.

    On the upside, they don't really have much of the SJW niceities like Google has. At least its a bootheel of not of fat blue-haired women, but of eternal murderous bastards who would(and have) betray their own mothers for a few more dollars. I'm mildly more okay with that.

    Daniel,

    Yes, give the devil (Amazon) its due, but it still is a very evil organization!

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  81. @Daniel Chieh
    Hey, cyberpunk might be coming after all.

    Hey, cyberpunk might be coming after all.

    In 2077 they voted Amazonia the worst place to live in America. Main issues—sky high rate of violence, and more people living below the poverty line than anywhere else.

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    Development hell has finally been conquered for that game.
    , @Romanian
    I can hardly wait... for the game, not the actual dystopia.

    Also, the video makes clear something often forgotten - the seedy but hip and diverse urban jungle is only fun for young people, the rich and people without families. And sociopaths.
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  82. Jack D says:
    @Thomm
    Removal of per-country limits is a huge improvement, provided that we stop all unskilled immigration (and certainly all illegal immigration).

    Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy.

    That is one hell of a big proviso. Yes, you are right – if we lived in cloud cuckoo land we could make this trade and be better off. But in real life what will happen is that you will get increased green card immigration PLUS the same quantity or more of illegal immigration so the overall number of immigrants will be increased.

    Regardless of what is enacted into law, the Left and the Permanent Government (all those Federal district judges who somehow have the power to override the President) has shown that they have no intention of getting rid of illegal immigration or any illegal immigrants who are already here. None whatsoever. Maybe if you kill someone, it might be OK to send you back after your sentence is over, but only in rare cases where you have committed an especially heinous crime. Not only do they ALL not have to go back, in real life hardly any are ever going to have go back. The political situation in Nicaragua right now is very precarious, so the entire population of Nicaragua has a plausible claim for asylum right now – every last man, woman and child can present himself at the border and obtain refuge. Abolish ICE!

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  83. Jack D says:
    @AndrewR
    We often joke about how WaPo is Bezos' personal blog, but to what extent is that true? How much potential control over the staffing and editorial process does he have? How much does he choose to use? Is he completely hands-off? I am genuinely fascinated by such questions. As it stands, the disgusting and shameless bias of WaPo makes me consider Bezos to be my personal enemy.

    Did Stalin have to personally supervise the editorial process of Pravda on a daily basis or could he just leave it to his minions who knew enough to follow the Party line? In fact they would have been holier than the Pope just to be safe.

    I think if you are the editor of the WaPo you really don’t want any phone calls from Bezos and you govern yourself so that he never has to call you. It’s not that tough because you already believe what he believes anyway.

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    The movie The Death of Stalin starts with a terrified minion getting a phone call from Stalin.
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  84. @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Have the Amish been applying to hire H-1Bs, too? For the barn-raising Americans won't do.

    Yoder is some kind of Kraut name. Yoder and Frey are a heavy equipment auction company out of Ohio. Yoder and Frey go on the road with their auction of heavy equipment and vehicles and trucks and small construction gear. Yoder and Frey made it up to New Hampshire plenty of times. Ohio is loaded up with Krauts, that is part of why Trump won Ohio.

    That Kevin Yoder dirtbag is a rancid whore for the GOP CHEAP LABOR FACTION. Kevin Yoder is pushing for more guest worker foreigners and more green card foreigners and more visa worker foreigners.

    That treasonous rat Kevin Yoder whore out of Kansas needs to be removed from the US House.

    Trumpy must be told that if he keeps up this horseshit with the mass importation of foreign workers there will be mass refusal of voters to support the GOP in November. Ann Coulter has a good sense of what the GOP voters want, and Coulter will tell you that the GOP voters do not support the mass importation of foreigners through the visa scam or the green card scam or the guest worker scam.

    Trump Must Call For An Immigration Moratorium

    Trump Must Deport ALL Illegal Alien Invaders

    Trump Must Stop the Mass Importation Of Foreigners Through The Visa Scam or the Green Card Scam or the Guest Worker Scam.

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    Specifically, Yoder is Swiss-German and even more specifically it is a very common Amish surname. The Amish have had a certain amount of "boiling off" over the centuries so there are many non-Amish with Amish names.
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  85. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders.
     
    Amazon and Borders were tied together for awhile there. A common website, if not common ownership. Kind of like the "alliances" among airlines. Did Amazon kill Borders on purpose?

    The popular B&N in St Paul's Highland Park neighborhood closed because the landlord thought he'd make more money from a Target express store. But Amazon is going after that market, too.

    Some people claim that China has the capacity to do all the world's manufacturing. Does Amazon have the same capacity to do all our retailing?

    Retailing is a really really big business that will be hard to replace completely (and Amazon doesn’t have to). Amazon now is half of all online sales but online sales are only 5% of total retail sales (some stuff – e.g. gasoline – is NEVER going to get sold online). So Amazon has lots and lots of room to grow, either by increasing that 5% or the 50%. To some extent it has already picked the low hanging fruit (books, small appliances, electronics) and other stuff will be harder (people like to squeeze the peaches and feel the fabrics) but they are working on ways to overcome obstacles.

    You will note that even in Amazon’s supposed killer categories there is at least one B&M survivor – Borders is gone but B&N stands. Circuit City is dead but Best Buy survives. There are benefits to being chased by the bear if you are the faster runner – fewer other runners in the race and the bear forces you to get in better shape.

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    They are trying to expand into the freestanding automated store space as well, so there is an angle for them to take over completely there. I doubt they will ever completely take over the retail space, but "close enough to it" like Wal-Mart seems likely.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    There are benefits to being chased by the bear if you are the faster runner – fewer other runners in the race and the bear forces you to get in better shape
     
    This happened in airlines, too. Delta was smart enough to realize that having Air Tran compete with them from a common Atlanta hub worked to their own benefit. It kept the other majors from starting fare wars to their hub. In St Louis, Southwest may have helped TWA last as long as it did.

    Northwest, in contrast, stupidly tried to kill their local gnat, Sun Country, and almost succeeded. So they were exposed to large competitors' aggression.

    And, wouldn't you know it, savvier Delta survived and bought the bankrupt Northwest.
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  86. @PiltdownMan
    This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the "non-preference" general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It's a terrible idea.

    I hope so too. However, Trump has not started building the wall on the southern border. This orange wussy is not going to do much on the immigration issue.

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  87. @Intelligent Dasein

    Are we sure Amazon is a good thing for society? No one seems to be bringing this up.
     
    I've been bringing that up for years.

    David Stockman of Contra Corner has repeatedly written well-documented articles outlining the profitless fraud that is Amazon's business model.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can't stop to take a bathroom break. In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn't exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

    Amazon only exists by constantly mainlining NIRP money, parasitizing the US Postal Service, undercutting US manufacturing and retail with cheap Chinese imports, and working its $12.00/hr employees so hard that they have to carry around empty water bottles to piss in because they can’t stop to take a bathroom break.

    In a world of sound money, prudent fiscal policy, and sane labor markets, Amazon couldn’t exist. It is a monster of the Everything Bubble, a mutant chimera of all the social pathologies regularly discussed here.

    Jeff Bezos Pushes Open Borders Mass Immigration And Amnesty For Illegal Aliens

    Amazon Corporation Must Be Destroyed

    Comcast Must Be Destroyed

    Viacom Must Be Destroyed

    The Corporate Media Is The Enemy Of The American People

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  88. Lowe says:
    @anony-mouse
    Interesting that groups that are actually having huge numbers of White kids (Amish, Mormons, nobody here) apparently have no problem with lots of immigrants coming in.

    And why not. Lots more customers for their goods. And no worries about being outnumbered.

    Oh, you mean poor, ignorant people don’t worry about the future? That could explain some things about their life station.

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  89. @Daniel Chieh
    Working for Amazon is horrific - much(!) worse than conditions in factories in China, which is saying something. Still, it is entertaining in the sense that it is the only company that I've heard of where evil is explicitly encouraged; backstabbing and destruction of your fellow man, with the ultimate goal of removing all humans(basically) is the norm. One really could hardly get more cyberpunk, or get a better vision of a post-human future where the "burn-out, then churn" employees becomes a norm, perhaps out of existence.

    ...and yes, sadly, this is out of damn good personal experience.

    On the upside, they don't really have much of the SJW niceities like Google has. At least its a bootheel of not of fat blue-haired women, but of eternal murderous bastards who would(and have) betray their own mothers for a few more dollars. I'm mildly more okay with that.

    Working for Amazon is horrific – much(!) worse than conditions in factories in China, which is saying something.

    The above is a horribly fraudulent bit of propaganda. Chinese factories and assembly gulags are much worse than Amazon Corporation installations. The evil, satanic Amazon Corporation is a nightmare of inhuman misery, but the Chinese satanic mills are much, much worse.

    The horrible money-grubbers in the Chinese Communist Party use propaganda and state violence to lure innocent and beautiful Chinese country girls into the evil maw of wicked slave labor. The Chinese girls are so horribly treated that many of them jump off the top of their gulag towers to escape the misery and woe of the Chinese Communist slave labor system.

    The money-grubbing Chinese coastal skunks who lure the Chinese country girls into slave labor camps have to install netting and steel and aluminum structures to catch the Chinese country girls as they defenestrate themselves and hurl themselves off the top of the slave labor buildings. The Chinese studied how Americans used netting and support structures to catch falling drunks at sporting events and rock concerts. American drunks used to go splat routinely from the top of stadiums before the idea of using netting to catch them was implemented. The Chinese then used this drunk-catching technology to prevent the Chinese country girls from swan diving to the big sleep.

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    You are not familiar with Amazon, then. Amazon warehouse conditions are essentially worse than chattel labor, sustained more or less by individuals destroying each other. At their worst, Chinese factories are basically slave operations with significant corruption; Amazon manages to go beyond, eliminating the corruption part for seamless mutual cruelty and effective slavery without the bother to provide things like housing or food. Amazon works with a system of "burn-out", which believes that employees are resources with limited lifespan that eventually are to be expunged.

    The ultimate goal of all warehouses, and the workers are well aware, is to ultimately replace them with full automation. Therefore, life there is basically a variation of fictional Hunger Games, where you try to eliminate as many rivals as possible so that your number won't come up. Part of the "striving" eventually gets to urine bottles and criticism of coworkers in order to raise one's status(in fact, getting someone else fired is one of the best ways to get promoted). By the time someone has survived several years in this condition, and even gotten promoted, he(and in this case, it is usually he) has become a fine example of undistracted ruthlessness.

    You're comparing slavery with the desire to eliminate all humans.

    Suicide nets ain't go nothing on that.

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  90. BenKenobi says:
    @fnn
    Further developments:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5993315/Emmanuel-Macron-says-fired-security-chief-Alexandre-Benalla-not-lover.html

    French President Emmanuel Macron has been forced to rubbish claims his disgraced ex-bodyguard was his lover.

    Alexandre Benalla, 26, was sacked as Macron's head of security last week after a video of him wearing a police helmet and beating protesters emerged.

    He has now been arrested and taken into police custody, with the President branding his actions 'disappointing' and a 'betrayal'.

    In a statement to MPs he said Benalla was not his lover nor did he have access to any codes for France's nuclear weapons.
     

    Seriously tho, we can’t let Macron’s gay lover get access to the nuclear codes.

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  91. @Jack D
    Retailing is a really really big business that will be hard to replace completely (and Amazon doesn't have to). Amazon now is half of all online sales but online sales are only 5% of total retail sales (some stuff - e.g. gasoline - is NEVER going to get sold online). So Amazon has lots and lots of room to grow, either by increasing that 5% or the 50%. To some extent it has already picked the low hanging fruit (books, small appliances, electronics) and other stuff will be harder (people like to squeeze the peaches and feel the fabrics) but they are working on ways to overcome obstacles.

    You will note that even in Amazon's supposed killer categories there is at least one B&M survivor - Borders is gone but B&N stands. Circuit City is dead but Best Buy survives. There are benefits to being chased by the bear if you are the faster runner - fewer other runners in the race and the bear forces you to get in better shape.

    They are trying to expand into the freestanding automated store space as well, so there is an angle for them to take over completely there. I doubt they will ever completely take over the retail space, but “close enough to it” like Wal-Mart seems likely.

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  92. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anony-mouse
    Interesting that groups that are actually having huge numbers of White kids (Amish, Mormons, nobody here) apparently have no problem with lots of immigrants coming in.

    And why not. Lots more customers for their goods. And no worries about being outnumbered.

    Amazon warehouse workers don’t have a set schedule. They have to text one hour before they are due to come in to see if they are on the schedule. So it’s really a day to day on call job

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  93. Thomm says:
    @Neoconned
    Can we make a deal?

    There are only around 6 million white Africans left including boers....90+% want to immigrate to the west....can we bring them to the USA and in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia? Say 10 million of them without any swaggering ms13 or gold chain wearing types....this will help our birthrates by making the marriage market more open for white and Asian nerds....

    We can save the Boers and their kinfolk and bring in lots of hot Mexican and Vietnamese women at the same time

    That policy is too attractive for it to ever be considered.

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    Exactly.....forgot who it was in here who proposed bringing a bunch of Salma Hayeks over but as they correctly noted...itll never happen. Ecause when it does every white and black woman in the country would arise in unison and call their govt reps and have that wall slammed shut. .imagine if they actually has to compete with hit young Asians and Latinas a third their age in the marriage market....

    Talk of raising the age of consent to 30 will ensue and mail order brides will be unilaterally declared human trafficking victims set for immediate deportation.....
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  94. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned
    Can we make a deal?

    There are only around 6 million white Africans left including boers....90+% want to immigrate to the west....can we bring them to the USA and in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia? Say 10 million of them without any swaggering ms13 or gold chain wearing types....this will help our birthrates by making the marriage market more open for white and Asian nerds....

    We can save the Boers and their kinfolk and bring in lots of hot Mexican and Vietnamese women at the same time

    Just what we need, more welfare mammas and anchor babies.

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    Use tariffs and take away welfare shit from the current deadbeats and illegals and use it.for your own harem of pretty young things like the Saudis do.....
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  95. Grumpy says:
    @anony-mouse
    Interesting that groups that are actually having huge numbers of White kids (Amish, Mormons, nobody here) apparently have no problem with lots of immigrants coming in.

    And why not. Lots more customers for their goods. And no worries about being outnumbered.

    I don’t think that’s true at all. President Trump had no problem winning Utah and Idaho, despite the Mormon church’s official embrace of immigration. On that issue, the Mormon leadership increasingly apes the position of Protestant and Catholic church professionals, who, in turn, increasingly ignore the opinions of the people in the pews who pay their salaries.

    Meanwhile, Amish support for Trump was in the news quite a bit in 2016. There is even an Amish Political Action Committee: http://www.amishpac.com/

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  96. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    So, the gay guy the richest man on earth? Simply- I don't care. Retrospectively, Nixon was prescient about them (as he was on many things; Kissinger, unsurprisingly, sounds "diplomatically" wishy washy & weak on history- it's Greeks, not Romans, Henry..)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSrGKcH40tQ

    Bezos is gay?

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    Gayer than all the Yankee soldiers put together:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9uarq2_hQ8
    , @PiltdownMan
    https://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/180319-bezos-630x788.jpg
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  97. @The Alarmist
    I shorted Amazon a few years back at $114 ... I corrected that error not long after at $120.

    The force, even though on the dark side, is strong with that one.

    Around 1999 I calculated how much richer I’d be if all the money I spent buying books from Amazon I had instead bought Amazon stock with. It was a rather large number.

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  98. @Jack D
    Retailing is a really really big business that will be hard to replace completely (and Amazon doesn't have to). Amazon now is half of all online sales but online sales are only 5% of total retail sales (some stuff - e.g. gasoline - is NEVER going to get sold online). So Amazon has lots and lots of room to grow, either by increasing that 5% or the 50%. To some extent it has already picked the low hanging fruit (books, small appliances, electronics) and other stuff will be harder (people like to squeeze the peaches and feel the fabrics) but they are working on ways to overcome obstacles.

    You will note that even in Amazon's supposed killer categories there is at least one B&M survivor - Borders is gone but B&N stands. Circuit City is dead but Best Buy survives. There are benefits to being chased by the bear if you are the faster runner - fewer other runners in the race and the bear forces you to get in better shape.

    There are benefits to being chased by the bear if you are the faster runner – fewer other runners in the race and the bear forces you to get in better shape

    This happened in airlines, too. Delta was smart enough to realize that having Air Tran compete with them from a common Atlanta hub worked to their own benefit. It kept the other majors from starting fare wars to their hub. In St Louis, Southwest may have helped TWA last as long as it did.

    Northwest, in contrast, stupidly tried to kill their local gnat, Sun Country, and almost succeeded. So they were exposed to large competitors’ aggression.

    And, wouldn’t you know it, savvier Delta survived and bought the bankrupt Northwest.

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  99. @Charles Pewitt

    Working for Amazon is horrific – much(!) worse than conditions in factories in China, which is saying something.

     

    The above is a horribly fraudulent bit of propaganda. Chinese factories and assembly gulags are much worse than Amazon Corporation installations. The evil, satanic Amazon Corporation is a nightmare of inhuman misery, but the Chinese satanic mills are much, much worse.

    The horrible money-grubbers in the Chinese Communist Party use propaganda and state violence to lure innocent and beautiful Chinese country girls into the evil maw of wicked slave labor. The Chinese girls are so horribly treated that many of them jump off the top of their gulag towers to escape the misery and woe of the Chinese Communist slave labor system.

    The money-grubbing Chinese coastal skunks who lure the Chinese country girls into slave labor camps have to install netting and steel and aluminum structures to catch the Chinese country girls as they defenestrate themselves and hurl themselves off the top of the slave labor buildings. The Chinese studied how Americans used netting and support structures to catch falling drunks at sporting events and rock concerts. American drunks used to go splat routinely from the top of stadiums before the idea of using netting to catch them was implemented. The Chinese then used this drunk-catching technology to prevent the Chinese country girls from swan diving to the big sleep.

    You are not familiar with Amazon, then. Amazon warehouse conditions are essentially worse than chattel labor, sustained more or less by individuals destroying each other. At their worst, Chinese factories are basically slave operations with significant corruption; Amazon manages to go beyond, eliminating the corruption part for seamless mutual cruelty and effective slavery without the bother to provide things like housing or food. Amazon works with a system of “burn-out”, which believes that employees are resources with limited lifespan that eventually are to be expunged.

    The ultimate goal of all warehouses, and the workers are well aware, is to ultimately replace them with full automation. Therefore, life there is basically a variation of fictional Hunger Games, where you try to eliminate as many rivals as possible so that your number won’t come up. Part of the “striving” eventually gets to urine bottles and criticism of coworkers in order to raise one’s status(in fact, getting someone else fired is one of the best ways to get promoted). By the time someone has survived several years in this condition, and even gotten promoted, he(and in this case, it is usually he) has become a fine example of undistracted ruthlessness.

    You’re comparing slavery with the desire to eliminate all humans.

    Suicide nets ain’t go nothing on that.

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    This is like arguing who is worse - Hitler or Stalin. A plague on both their houses.

    What is really amazing is that everything that Amazon does is in compliance (more or less) with American labor laws.

    You might wonder why anyone in their right mind would go work for Amazon, especially now that the labor market has tightened up? I think the answer is that initially people who work there don't really understand the game and that it's real (even if they have vaguely heard about it) and that when they do find out, many quit (or get forced out by the wolves), which is exactly what Amazon wants. And then of those who stay longer, each one of them thinks that yeah, the game is real but I'M going to be the one who wins it! These are the REAL suckers because Amazon can milk them like crazy until they burn out. And of course, by definition most of those who think they can win the game can't and will leave empty handed eventually - the only question is how long Amazon can lead them on before they throw in the towel.
    , @J.Ross
    The comparison is useless because the situations are so differemt. The worst Chinese factory manager can rightly say that he gives his workers a paradise compared to Chinese factory conditions in the Seventies. Bezos knows better, can do better, babbles about morality, and then does what he does.
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  100. Jack D says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    Yoder is some kind of Kraut name. Yoder and Frey are a heavy equipment auction company out of Ohio. Yoder and Frey go on the road with their auction of heavy equipment and vehicles and trucks and small construction gear. Yoder and Frey made it up to New Hampshire plenty of times. Ohio is loaded up with Krauts, that is part of why Trump won Ohio.

    That Kevin Yoder dirtbag is a rancid whore for the GOP CHEAP LABOR FACTION. Kevin Yoder is pushing for more guest worker foreigners and more green card foreigners and more visa worker foreigners.

    That treasonous rat Kevin Yoder whore out of Kansas needs to be removed from the US House.

    Trumpy must be told that if he keeps up this horseshit with the mass importation of foreign workers there will be mass refusal of voters to support the GOP in November. Ann Coulter has a good sense of what the GOP voters want, and Coulter will tell you that the GOP voters do not support the mass importation of foreigners through the visa scam or the green card scam or the guest worker scam.

    Trump Must Call For An Immigration Moratorium

    Trump Must Deport ALL Illegal Alien Invaders

    Trump Must Stop the Mass Importation Of Foreigners Through The Visa Scam or the Green Card Scam or the Guest Worker Scam.

    Specifically, Yoder is Swiss-German and even more specifically it is a very common Amish surname. The Amish have had a certain amount of “boiling off” over the centuries so there are many non-Amish with Amish names.

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  101. @Anonymous
    Bezos is gay?

    Gayer than all the Yankee soldiers put together:

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  102. Jack D says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    You are not familiar with Amazon, then. Amazon warehouse conditions are essentially worse than chattel labor, sustained more or less by individuals destroying each other. At their worst, Chinese factories are basically slave operations with significant corruption; Amazon manages to go beyond, eliminating the corruption part for seamless mutual cruelty and effective slavery without the bother to provide things like housing or food. Amazon works with a system of "burn-out", which believes that employees are resources with limited lifespan that eventually are to be expunged.

    The ultimate goal of all warehouses, and the workers are well aware, is to ultimately replace them with full automation. Therefore, life there is basically a variation of fictional Hunger Games, where you try to eliminate as many rivals as possible so that your number won't come up. Part of the "striving" eventually gets to urine bottles and criticism of coworkers in order to raise one's status(in fact, getting someone else fired is one of the best ways to get promoted). By the time someone has survived several years in this condition, and even gotten promoted, he(and in this case, it is usually he) has become a fine example of undistracted ruthlessness.

    You're comparing slavery with the desire to eliminate all humans.

    Suicide nets ain't go nothing on that.

    This is like arguing who is worse – Hitler or Stalin. A plague on both their houses.

    What is really amazing is that everything that Amazon does is in compliance (more or less) with American labor laws.

    You might wonder why anyone in their right mind would go work for Amazon, especially now that the labor market has tightened up? I think the answer is that initially people who work there don’t really understand the game and that it’s real (even if they have vaguely heard about it) and that when they do find out, many quit (or get forced out by the wolves), which is exactly what Amazon wants. And then of those who stay longer, each one of them thinks that yeah, the game is real but I’M going to be the one who wins it! These are the REAL suckers because Amazon can milk them like crazy until they burn out. And of course, by definition most of those who think they can win the game can’t and will leave empty handed eventually – the only question is how long Amazon can lead them on before they throw in the towel.

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    http://amazonemancipatory.com/

    Socialist who works at amazon wrote this blog. Shills for foreign workers, so not that helpful. Exposes the "pay to quit" scam and the difficulty of getting the stock options (2 years, no one lasts that long)
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  103. @Jack D
    Did Stalin have to personally supervise the editorial process of Pravda on a daily basis or could he just leave it to his minions who knew enough to follow the Party line? In fact they would have been holier than the Pope just to be safe.

    I think if you are the editor of the WaPo you really don't want any phone calls from Bezos and you govern yourself so that he never has to call you. It's not that tough because you already believe what he believes anyway.

    The movie The Death of Stalin starts with a terrified minion getting a phone call from Stalin.

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    The movie The Death of Stalin starts with a terrified minion getting a phone call from Stalin.

     

    He had a telephone? He must have been way up there in the hierarchy.

    Stalin imported copies of The Grapes of Wrath to show the workers and peasants that Americans could be poor, too. Instead, they were amazed that the protagonist family owned a truck. Their own truck!

    California, here we come!
    , @Jack D
    When I was at Penn I took a Russian History course taught by Alexander Riasanovsky (his brother was the more famous Russian historian at Berkeley) who was very entertaining (so entertaining people would take his course even if they had no interest in Russian history). The Riasanovskys had been born in Harbin, China and came to the US as kids when the Japanese invaded.

    Anyone one anecdote that he told (I doubt it was true) was that during the Stalin period one of the signs that you were about to be purged was that your phone line would go dead (so you couldn't warn your "co-conspirators"). One day someone in the nomenklatura came home and his phone was dead so he pulled out his pistol and shot himself to avoid the torture he knew was coming ( and the end result was going to be the same anyway). The phone repairman found his body.
    , @Romanian
    It was not a minion, but a regular radio broadcast employee, the point being the terror that his arbitrary power could instill into people not inside the formal hierarchy that he led.
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  104. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon
    the sheer scale of the betrayal of the West is mind boggling - and it makes me wonder if variations on this theme destroyed earlier civilizations and if it will keep happening to future civilizations until we are no longer in the goldilocks zone

    Powerful observation in the first sentence.

    What do you mean exactly by “the Goldilocks zone”? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

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    The Goldilocks zone is the region around a star where liquid water can exist on a planet, and thus life can exist (not too hot, not too cold, just right).  This is not a fixed set of distances; as a main-sequence star ages, it burns hydrogen into denser helium and thus requires a hotter core to keep thermal pressure in balance against gravitation.  This hotter core generates more heat and pushes the Goldilocks zone outward.  The luminosity of the Sun is going up by about 1% every 100 million years.

    This is part of why the globe could tolerate being warm overall before, but can't now.  When the Sun was 5% dimmer you could have enough CO2 and methane in the atmosphere to keep the poles ice-free and things wouldn't go to extremes (like a wet greenhouse which eventually becomes a Venusian hell).  That's probably not the case any more, as the Goldilocks zone is moving out toward Mars.

    The Earth almost certainly went through global iceball periods in its youth, after the crust cooled off enough.  With the high albedo and low humidity, it would stay that way until volcanic CO2 and random methane built up enough greenhouse effect to thaw it.  That would enable a period of rapid dissolution of CO2 in the uncovered oceans and uptake from rain-driven weathering, which would let the iceball stage return for a while.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  We're too close to the GZ's inner edge for that to happen again.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    What do you mean exactly by “the Goldilocks zone”? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

     

    If it refers to "not too hot, not too cold, just right", it really should be called the Baby Bear zone.
    , @notanon
    the goldilocks zone is the zone in a solar system where the sun is not too hot and not too cold.

    as a sun ages its goldilocks zone moves so a planet which is/was in the goldilocks zone (like Earth) at one point in time might not be at some later point.


    what you see as this theme?
     
    tragedy of the commons - for any individual firm cheaper labor makes it more profitable but if everyone does it then the economy crumbles cos no one has any money to spend.

    i.e. if everyone did what Bezos is doing then Amazon's customers wouldn't have any money to spend at Amazon.

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  105. J.Ross says: • Website

    Bezos is about to get a huge assist while Trump and Sessions do nothing.

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/180174867

    Why is NOBODY talking abut this?

    The GOP Appropriation’s committee helped democrats add riders to the DHS spending bill which force Obama’s immigration policies onto us by law. This was done very rapidly over the course of a single day.. proposed.. voice voted.. and forwarded from committee as quickly and quietly as possible.

    - Open Borders: “Asylum” criteria: Now anyone can claim “domestic violence” or “gangs” and get a free green card. (What was once merely “radical interpretation” now CODIFIED IN LAW)
    - DACA Amnesty: Amendments explicitly deny funds to any deportations of DACA recipients.

    I have yet to see ANYONE aside from Coulter raising hay about this.
    Not a single person. They’re all crowing about “muh social media”

    This was RELEASED FROM COMMITTEE TO THE HOUSE FLOOR by voice vote with the only dissent being Rep. John R. Carter of Texas.

    https://www.conservativereview.com/news/top-committee-republicans-vote-for-border-provision-worse-than-amnesty/

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/25/gop-committee-revives-obamas-catch-and-release-asylum-rules/

    Anon appends a list of people who did this:

    [MORE]

    Rodney P. Frelinghuysen, New Jersey, Chairman
    Harold Rogers, Kentucky
    Robert B. Aderholt, Alabama
    Kay Granger, Texas
    Michael K. Simpson, Idaho
    John Abney Culberson, Texas
    Ken Calvert, California
    Tom Cole, Oklahoma
    Mario Diaz-Balart, Florida
    Tom Graves, Georgia
    Kevin Yoder, Kansas
    Steve Womack, Arkansas
    Jeff Fortenberry, Nebraska
    Thomas J. Rooney, Florida
    Charles J. Fleischmann, Tennessee
    Jaime Herrera Beutler, Washington
    David P. Joyce, Ohio
    David G. Valadao, California
    Andy Harris, MD, Maryland
    Martha Roby, Alabama
    Mark E. Amodei, Nevada
    Chris Stewart, Utah
    David Young, Iowa
    Evan H. Jenkins, West Virginia
    Steven Palazzo, Mississippi
    Dan Newhouse, Washington
    John R. Moolenaar, Michigan
    Scott Taylor, Virginia
    John Rutherford, Florida

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  106. I hope Jeff has been keeping up with current events and paying heed as it looks like the fortunes of one of his fellow oligarchs, Mr.Z, have been spinning out of control–and downwards.

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  107. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Daniel Chieh
    You are not familiar with Amazon, then. Amazon warehouse conditions are essentially worse than chattel labor, sustained more or less by individuals destroying each other. At their worst, Chinese factories are basically slave operations with significant corruption; Amazon manages to go beyond, eliminating the corruption part for seamless mutual cruelty and effective slavery without the bother to provide things like housing or food. Amazon works with a system of "burn-out", which believes that employees are resources with limited lifespan that eventually are to be expunged.

    The ultimate goal of all warehouses, and the workers are well aware, is to ultimately replace them with full automation. Therefore, life there is basically a variation of fictional Hunger Games, where you try to eliminate as many rivals as possible so that your number won't come up. Part of the "striving" eventually gets to urine bottles and criticism of coworkers in order to raise one's status(in fact, getting someone else fired is one of the best ways to get promoted). By the time someone has survived several years in this condition, and even gotten promoted, he(and in this case, it is usually he) has become a fine example of undistracted ruthlessness.

    You're comparing slavery with the desire to eliminate all humans.

    Suicide nets ain't go nothing on that.

    The comparison is useless because the situations are so differemt. The worst Chinese factory manager can rightly say that he gives his workers a paradise compared to Chinese factory conditions in the Seventies. Bezos knows better, can do better, babbles about morality, and then does what he does.

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  108. Pat Boyle says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy
    Amazon is pretty much the reason that the only brick-and-mortar book chain remaining is Barnes & Noble. I miss Borders. It was like B&N, except warmer and cozier, and it was always a nice place to gather with friends.

    I used to go to Borders and B&N all the times. I was also fond of the used book stores in the tenderloin (SF). They had things you wouldn’t see elsewhere. But I gave all that up. I use Amazon now exclusively.

    It all started when I fell off the cliff. To be accurate when my little dog pulled me over the edge. I didn’t go out of the house for a year. I took a lot of dope. And I ordered stuff from Amazon – books, CDs, DVDs etc. I ordered groceries from Safeway. Otherwise I would have starved.

    Amazon came along just in time for me. I can get up and out now but I still order books and groceries and tools from Amazon. It was inevitable. The Amazon business model makes so much sense for so many people that it had to appear. I was in Web marketing before Bezos so in theory I could have been him. But like maybe 90% of the early programmers who went bust rather than rich – I had the wrong formula. I tried to sell artisan products and later to establish a dating site. My software worked but my business aim was off target.

    Bezos got it right, not necessarily because he was a genius, someone else could have been him. I don’t know the history of Amazon but I imagine there were competitors early on who might have hit the gold seam instead of him.

    So what is it like to be a failed web entrepreneur? Not so bad. I’m not a billionaire but I get lots of goodies delivered to my front door by Amazon.

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    I had the wrong formula

    What does the right formula consist of?
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  109. @Anon
    https://twitter.com/GcReforms/status/1021802570652610562

    25 Billion in profit for FY 17

    Probably even more in FY 18

    Mr. Dimon has a net worth of over a billion dollars

    Meanwhile the cost of education, healthcare and housing in bicoastal cities spirals out of reach of the young. No affordable family formaiton.

    I knew an ex-member of his secretarial pool where she used to work; they loved him because he would treat them all to Adult beverages after work.

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  110. kissinger says:
    @27 year old
    Yoder represents Olathe, Overland Park etc.

    Massive indian presence there working for the usual suspect companies.

    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.

    Yoder personally assisted the dead scab’s wife in securing an H1-b visa for an entry level software QA job (!) so she could remain in the country.

    This crime was of course never investigated.

    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.

    It wasn’t a bar fight. It was a killing of an innocent man who was legally in the US. If you doesn’t like immigrants (legal or illegal), then elect an elite that represents your interests. Don’t condone murder.

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    It was a killing of an innocent man
     
    > innocent man

    Citation needed.

    Hostile invader foreigner, stealing a decent salary away from a White American besides, gets in an argument in a bar and winds up dead.

    I’m playing the worlds smallest sitar for pajeet

    The tune goes like this:

    Womp womp

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  111. kissinger says:
    @notanon
    the sheer scale of the betrayal of the West is mind boggling - and it makes me wonder if variations on this theme destroyed earlier civilizations and if it will keep happening to future civilizations until we are no longer in the goldilocks zone

    “Great civilizations are not murdered. They commit suicide.”: Arnold Toynbee

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    How do you control for the fact that Jewish supremacists hold the levers of power? Minor change confounding variable.
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  112. @Neoconned
    Can we make a deal?

    There are only around 6 million white Africans left including boers....90+% want to immigrate to the west....can we bring them to the USA and in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia? Say 10 million of them without any swaggering ms13 or gold chain wearing types....this will help our birthrates by making the marriage market more open for white and Asian nerds....

    We can save the Boers and their kinfolk and bring in lots of hot Mexican and Vietnamese women at the same time

    in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia?

    The last thing we need is more resentful mestizos, and even one more Elliot Roger is one too many.

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    Lol wait til 2 buxom 25 yr old Latinas offer to join your harem in return for citizenship.....
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  113. @Anon
    Powerful observation in the first sentence.

    What do you mean exactly by "the Goldilocks zone"? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

    The Goldilocks zone is the region around a star where liquid water can exist on a planet, and thus life can exist (not too hot, not too cold, just right).  This is not a fixed set of distances; as a main-sequence star ages, it burns hydrogen into denser helium and thus requires a hotter core to keep thermal pressure in balance against gravitation.  This hotter core generates more heat and pushes the Goldilocks zone outward.  The luminosity of the Sun is going up by about 1% every 100 million years.

    This is part of why the globe could tolerate being warm overall before, but can’t now.  When the Sun was 5% dimmer you could have enough CO2 and methane in the atmosphere to keep the poles ice-free and things wouldn’t go to extremes (like a wet greenhouse which eventually becomes a Venusian hell).  That’s probably not the case any more, as the Goldilocks zone is moving out toward Mars.

    The Earth almost certainly went through global iceball periods in its youth, after the crust cooled off enough.  With the high albedo and low humidity, it would stay that way until volcanic CO2 and random methane built up enough greenhouse effect to thaw it.  That would enable a period of rapid dissolution of CO2 in the uncovered oceans and uptake from rain-driven weathering, which would let the iceball stage return for a while.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  We’re too close to the GZ’s inner edge for that to happen again.

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  114. @Anon
    Powerful observation in the first sentence.

    What do you mean exactly by "the Goldilocks zone"? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

    What do you mean exactly by “the Goldilocks zone”? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

    If it refers to “not too hot, not too cold, just right”, it really should be called the Baby Bear zone.

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    Do you think he means the temperature at which one can boil a frog?
    , @Mr. Rational
    I hate it when my detailed explanations are held for moderation while others' are posted immediately and get priority.
    , @Anon
    Thanks for the explanation.
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  115. @Steve Sailer
    The movie The Death of Stalin starts with a terrified minion getting a phone call from Stalin.

    The movie The Death of Stalin starts with a terrified minion getting a phone call from Stalin.

    He had a telephone? He must have been way up there in the hierarchy.

    Stalin imported copies of The Grapes of Wrath to show the workers and peasants that Americans could be poor, too. Instead, they were amazed that the protagonist family owned a truck. Their own truck!

    California, here we come!

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  116. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The movie The Death of Stalin starts with a terrified minion getting a phone call from Stalin.

    When I was at Penn I took a Russian History course taught by Alexander Riasanovsky (his brother was the more famous Russian historian at Berkeley) who was very entertaining (so entertaining people would take his course even if they had no interest in Russian history). The Riasanovskys had been born in Harbin, China and came to the US as kids when the Japanese invaded.

    Anyone one anecdote that he told (I doubt it was true) was that during the Stalin period one of the signs that you were about to be purged was that your phone line would go dead (so you couldn’t warn your “co-conspirators”). One day someone in the nomenklatura came home and his phone was dead so he pulled out his pistol and shot himself to avoid the torture he knew was coming ( and the end result was going to be the same anyway). The phone repairman found his body.

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  117. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Hey, cyberpunk might be coming after all.
     
    In 2077 they voted Amazonia the worst place to live in America. Main issues—sky high rate of violence, and more people living below the poverty line than anywhere else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjxS9ciNlII

    Development hell has finally been conquered for that game.

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  118. ‘Will you go to work picking tomatoes 8 hrs, under the sun for $10.00 an hour?’

    No, I won’t — and if we bar all immigration no else will either.

    And you know what that means? It means we’ll have to pay people $20 an hour to pick tomatoes, and we’ll all have to pay more for tomatoes.

    And you know what that means? It means we’ll have a more egalitarian society, with a flatter distribution of incomes.

    And you know what? That doesn’t bother me at all.

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    Great!
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  119. @AndrewR
    We often joke about how WaPo is Bezos' personal blog, but to what extent is that true? How much potential control over the staffing and editorial process does he have? How much does he choose to use? Is he completely hands-off? I am genuinely fascinated by such questions. As it stands, the disgusting and shameless bias of WaPo makes me consider Bezos to be my personal enemy.

    Or is it just Bezos? It’s an interesting coincidence that, a few months after Bezos bought WaPo in 2013, Amazon got a $600 million contract for “cloud computing” from… the CIA. Amazon was not the low bidder.
    theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/

    But it sounds like a rather implausible connection, doesn’t it? I mean, everyone knows that the CIA is involved in espionage and covert operations, not domestic propaganda. And the Washington Post certainly doesn’t have any prior history of connections to the CIA…

    Except that Philip Graham, publisher of the Post from the late 40s to mid-60s, was recruited by the CIA’s (((Frank Wisner))) to run the newspaper side of the CIA’s domestic disinformation campaign (later termed Operation Mockingbird).

    https://infogalactic.com/info/CIA_influence_on_public_opinion#Operation_Mockingbird

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  120. notanon says:
    @Anon
    Powerful observation in the first sentence.

    What do you mean exactly by "the Goldilocks zone"? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

    the goldilocks zone is the zone in a solar system where the sun is not too hot and not too cold.

    as a sun ages its goldilocks zone moves so a planet which is/was in the goldilocks zone (like Earth) at one point in time might not be at some later point.

    what you see as this theme?

    tragedy of the commons – for any individual firm cheaper labor makes it more profitable but if everyone does it then the economy crumbles cos no one has any money to spend.

    i.e. if everyone did what Bezos is doing then Amazon’s customers wouldn’t have any money to spend at Amazon.

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    Thanks. It seems this was an indirect way of saying "until mankind goes extinct."
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  121. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pat Boyle
    I used to go to Borders and B&N all the times. I was also fond of the used book stores in the tenderloin (SF). They had things you wouldn't see elsewhere. But I gave all that up. I use Amazon now exclusively.

    It all started when I fell off the cliff. To be accurate when my little dog pulled me over the edge. I didn't go out of the house for a year. I took a lot of dope. And I ordered stuff from Amazon - books, CDs, DVDs etc. I ordered groceries from Safeway. Otherwise I would have starved.

    Amazon came along just in time for me. I can get up and out now but I still order books and groceries and tools from Amazon. It was inevitable. The Amazon business model makes so much sense for so many people that it had to appear. I was in Web marketing before Bezos so in theory I could have been him. But like maybe 90% of the early programmers who went bust rather than rich - I had the wrong formula. I tried to sell artisan products and later to establish a dating site. My software worked but my business aim was off target.

    Bezos got it right, not necessarily because he was a genius, someone else could have been him. I don't know the history of Amazon but I imagine there were competitors early on who might have hit the gold seam instead of him.

    So what is it like to be a failed web entrepreneur? Not so bad. I'm not a billionaire but I get lots of goodies delivered to my front door by Amazon.

    I had the wrong formula

    What does the right formula consist of?

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    Serendipity, hypocrisy and ruthlessness.
    , @Pat Boyle
    Daniel Chieh has a good answer.
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  122. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What do you mean exactly by “the Goldilocks zone”? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

     

    If it refers to "not too hot, not too cold, just right", it really should be called the Baby Bear zone.

    Do you think he means the temperature at which one can boil a frog?

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  123. Thomm says:
    @notanon
    unless they are employed in completely new jobs that wouldn't have existed without immigration then mass skilled immigration is as bad as mass unskilled immigration

    say you have productivity on a 5-point scale (call it p1, p2, p3 etc) with the average at p3

    1) add workers below productivity 3 and your average productivity automatically goes down (and your pre-existing societal level automatically goes down with it)

    2) add a p4 worker in a completely new job and your average productivity goes up

    3) add a p4 worker who replaces an existing one who then displaces a p3 who then displaces a p2 who then displaces a p1 and the previous native p1 goes on welfare or joins a gang and your average productivity goes down just the same as if you added an unskilled foreign worker.

    if over supply of labor worked the 3rd world wouldn't be the 3rd world

    (plus over supply of labor pushes down wages and increases housing costs which kills demand over time and more so when the original wages were high)

    You were doing fine on 1) and 2), but you are wrong about 3).

    I say immigration should ONLY be for p4 and p5 workers. They earn a lot, but then spend a lot as well. They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.

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    They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.
     
    It also means people here voting in favor of their countries, not ours.

    (I suspect moreover your raw productivity analysis fails to take into account other externalities as well.)
    , @jbwilson24
    "They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs."

    Being in China or India might entail 'boosting' their economy a bit, but it also means that they aren't here breeding like rats and trying to alter our culture. This might shock you, being a low class Dalit or whatever you are, but many of us don't see much merit in Indians. Great cultural achievements, but the vast bulk of them are dummies looking for ways to fleece welfare systems.
    , @notanon

    They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall
     
    no they don't

    they displace workers of the same level downwards pushing the people at the bottom onto welfare
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  124. @Reg Cæsar

    What do you mean exactly by “the Goldilocks zone”? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

     

    If it refers to "not too hot, not too cold, just right", it really should be called the Baby Bear zone.

    I hate it when my detailed explanations are held for moderation while others’ are posted immediately and get priority.

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  125. @Anonymous
    Bezos is gay?

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  126. @Bardon Kaldian
    So, the gay guy the richest man on earth? Simply- I don't care. Retrospectively, Nixon was prescient about them (as he was on many things; Kissinger, unsurprisingly, sounds "diplomatically" wishy washy & weak on history- it's Greeks, not Romans, Henry..)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSrGKcH40tQ

    I’m struck by the fact that as early as 1971, Nixon, a man born in 1913, was using the politically correct term, “gay”, in private conversation, rather than “homo”, which was the standard nomenclature for homosexuals that was favored, in those days, by straight-talking men of his generation.

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  127. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @kissinger
    “Great civilizations are not murdered. They commit suicide.”: Arnold Toynbee

    How do you control for the fact that Jewish supremacists hold the levers of power? Minor change confounding variable.

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  128. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright
    'Will you go to work picking tomatoes 8 hrs, under the sun for $10.00 an hour?'

    No, I won't -- and if we bar all immigration no else will either.

    And you know what that means? It means we'll have to pay people $20 an hour to pick tomatoes, and we'll all have to pay more for tomatoes.

    And you know what that means? It means we'll have a more egalitarian society, with a flatter distribution of incomes.

    And you know what? That doesn't bother me at all.

    Great!

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  129. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    You were doing fine on 1) and 2), but you are wrong about 3).

    I say immigration should ONLY be for p4 and p5 workers. They earn a lot, but then spend a lot as well. They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.

    They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.

    It also means people here voting in favor of their countries, not ours.

    (I suspect moreover your raw productivity analysis fails to take into account other externalities as well.)

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  130. Anon[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What do you mean exactly by “the Goldilocks zone”? Could you also summarize for us what you see as this theme?

     

    If it refers to "not too hot, not too cold, just right", it really should be called the Baby Bear zone.

    Thanks for the explanation.

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  131. Anon[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon
    the goldilocks zone is the zone in a solar system where the sun is not too hot and not too cold.

    as a sun ages its goldilocks zone moves so a planet which is/was in the goldilocks zone (like Earth) at one point in time might not be at some later point.


    what you see as this theme?
     
    tragedy of the commons - for any individual firm cheaper labor makes it more profitable but if everyone does it then the economy crumbles cos no one has any money to spend.

    i.e. if everyone did what Bezos is doing then Amazon's customers wouldn't have any money to spend at Amazon.

    Thanks. It seems this was an indirect way of saying “until mankind goes extinct.”

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    yes and no - if we got off the planet before it moves out of the goldilocks zone it won't matter
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  132. ziggurat says:
    @PiltdownMan
    This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the "non-preference" general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It's a terrible idea.

    I totally agree that it would be a mistake to lift the per-country cap on green cards. It seems like we’re still on defense. When are we going to get some touchdowns?!

    As many have pointed out and I have personally observed, even educated immigrants strongly vote Democratic.

    It’s a mystery to me why only 58% of whites vote Republican. I’m thinking it might pick up, given all the anti-white, Democratic rhetoric. I’m curious if there will be any % increase in the upcoming midterm elections.

    https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit

    No more than 7 percent of the visas may be issued to natives of any one independent country in a fiscal year

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    The Republicans may not be as openly anti-white as the Dems, but they have a lot of positions which turn many whites off: anti-abortion and pro-gun extremism, pro tax cuts for the rich, pro deficit spending, a "die in the streets and/or go bankrupt" approach to health care, a "screw the whales" approach to the environment, etc.

    There are very few non-self-hating whites who are one-issue voters on race, and even if they were, it's not like the GOP is anything approaching pro-white. Look at their reverence for people like Tim Scott, whom they enlisted to browbeat Donald Trump into toeing the line on race.

    , @MarkinLA
    It’s a mystery to me why only 58% of whites vote Republican.


    When your choice is a white like Yoder, what do you gain? The mystery is why the Republican Party has lasted as long as it has.
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  133. Discard says:
    @Steve Sailer
    We will miss the book superstores when they are gone. I can remember finding the first huge Barnes & Noble in Chicago around 1995 and how much it made my life better.

    Unless you had a high end independent bookstore in your neighborhood, chain bookstores were pretty awful before the 1990s.

    There were great independent bookstores:

    http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-dave-dutton-20170113-story.html

    Pickwick and Hunter’s were two small SoCal chains. Between them they had maybe twenty stores. I know that Pickwick had the store managers do the book ordering, and the managers delegated a lot of that task to trusted employees. That stopped when they were bought by B. Dalton. After that, somebody in Minneapolis chose the books they were allowed to sell.

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  134. @Thomm
    Removal of per-country limits is a huge improvement, provided that we stop all unskilled immigration (and certainly all illegal immigration).

    Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy.

    “Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy.”

    According to who?

    Canada has flooded in legions of low IQ south asians, together with their aging, necrotic grandparents who have never paid a dime in tax (but who soak up 500k in end of life health care costs).

    The legions of Indians in Toronto have added little except elevated sexual assault rates and insurance fraud. They shut down highways to protest their idiotic political issues back home.

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    They shut down highways to protest their idiotic political issues back home.
     
    You're thinking of Sri Lankan Tamils
    , @Thomm
    Economically, Chinese and Indian Canadians outperform white Canadians.

    As a White Trashionalist, you may not be smart enough to know how to look up this data, but it is a fact that is openly verifiable.
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  135. @Thomm
    You were doing fine on 1) and 2), but you are wrong about 3).

    I say immigration should ONLY be for p4 and p5 workers. They earn a lot, but then spend a lot as well. They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.

    “They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.”

    Being in China or India might entail ‘boosting’ their economy a bit, but it also means that they aren’t here breeding like rats and trying to alter our culture. This might shock you, being a low class Dalit or whatever you are, but many of us don’t see much merit in Indians. Great cultural achievements, but the vast bulk of them are dummies looking for ways to fleece welfare systems.

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    This.
    , @Anonymous
    There is no asabiyya to be found in Indian immigrants. It is very odd. They are aliens.
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  136. @kissinger

    Kevin Yoder also personally committed visa fraud back when an indian H1b scab was killed in a bar fight.
     
    It wasn't a bar fight. It was a killing of an innocent man who was legally in the US. If you doesn't like immigrants (legal or illegal), then elect an elite that represents your interests. Don't condone murder.

    It was a killing of an innocent man

    > innocent man

    Citation needed.

    Hostile invader foreigner, stealing a decent salary away from a White American besides, gets in an argument in a bar and winds up dead.

    I’m playing the worlds smallest sitar for pajeet

    The tune goes like this:

    Womp womp

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    • Replies: @3g4me
    @136 27 year old: "I’m playing the worlds smallest sitar for pajeet

    The tune goes like this:

    Womp womp."

    I am so stealing this. After wading through all the boomer, soi-disant intellectual inanities here, you made my day.
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  137. AndrewR says:
    @ziggurat
    I totally agree that it would be a mistake to lift the per-country cap on green cards. It seems like we're still on defense. When are we going to get some touchdowns?!

    As many have pointed out and I have personally observed, even educated immigrants strongly vote Democratic.

    It's a mystery to me why only 58% of whites vote Republican. I'm thinking it might pick up, given all the anti-white, Democratic rhetoric. I'm curious if there will be any % increase in the upcoming midterm elections.

    https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit

    No more than 7 percent of the visas may be issued to natives of any one independent country in a fiscal year
     

    The Republicans may not be as openly anti-white as the Dems, but they have a lot of positions which turn many whites off: anti-abortion and pro-gun extremism, pro tax cuts for the rich, pro deficit spending, a “die in the streets and/or go bankrupt” approach to health care, a “screw the whales” approach to the environment, etc.

    There are very few non-self-hating whites who are one-issue voters on race, and even if they were, it’s not like the GOP is anything approaching pro-white. Look at their reverence for people like Tim Scott, whom they enlisted to browbeat Donald Trump into toeing the line on race.

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    Good points, but those divisive issues have always been present. In years past, I was sympathetic with many Democratic positions. However, I cannot imagine voting Democratic now, given the dramatic increase in rhetoric that is anti-white, pro-mass-immigration, and pro-welfare too.

    The progressives are pushing for more governmental support for the poor, while nearly in the same breath, they quote the verse "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses."

    The new star of the Democratic party, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, wants universal healthcare and guaranteed federal jobs, while simultaneously increasing immigration and reducing ICE deportations.

    I've never thought the Republican party is or has ever been pro-white nor did I ever even care about that. However, the Democrats has become more obviously anti-white and anti-citizen. They care more about foreign citizens than "POC".

    Seinfeld on immigration:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I_u5fvB15Q

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  138. @Anonymous
    I had the wrong formula

    What does the right formula consist of?

    Serendipity, hypocrisy and ruthlessness.

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  139. Romanian says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Hey, cyberpunk might be coming after all.
     
    In 2077 they voted Amazonia the worst place to live in America. Main issues—sky high rate of violence, and more people living below the poverty line than anywhere else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjxS9ciNlII

    I can hardly wait… for the game, not the actual dystopia.

    Also, the video makes clear something often forgotten – the seedy but hip and diverse urban jungle is only fun for young people, the rich and people without families. And sociopaths.

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  140. Romanian says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    The movie The Death of Stalin starts with a terrified minion getting a phone call from Stalin.

    It was not a minion, but a regular radio broadcast employee, the point being the terror that his arbitrary power could instill into people not inside the formal hierarchy that he led.

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  141. @jbwilson24
    "They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs."

    Being in China or India might entail 'boosting' their economy a bit, but it also means that they aren't here breeding like rats and trying to alter our culture. This might shock you, being a low class Dalit or whatever you are, but many of us don't see much merit in Indians. Great cultural achievements, but the vast bulk of them are dummies looking for ways to fleece welfare systems.

    This.

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  142. LondonBob says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't Yoder a Mennonite name?

    Have the Amish been applying to hire H-1Bs, too? For the barn-raising Americans won't do.

    Yoder is a Jedi name.

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  143. Pat Boyle says:
    @Anonymous
    I had the wrong formula

    What does the right formula consist of?

    Daniel Chieh has a good answer.

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  144. Anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @jbwilson24
    "Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy."

    According to who?

    Canada has flooded in legions of low IQ south asians, together with their aging, necrotic grandparents who have never paid a dime in tax (but who soak up 500k in end of life health care costs).

    The legions of Indians in Toronto have added little except elevated sexual assault rates and insurance fraud. They shut down highways to protest their idiotic political issues back home.

    They shut down highways to protest their idiotic political issues back home.

    You’re thinking of Sri Lankan Tamils

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    You’re thinking of Sri Lankan Tamils
     
    He is nowhere near smart enough to know the difference.
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  145. MBlanc46 says:
    @Anon
    https://twitter.com/Fredhum/status/1022180741424271361

    Bill Gates: Net worth 90 Billion Dollars

    Steve Ballmer: Net worth 38 Billion Dollars

    Paul Allem: Net worth 20 Billion Dollars

    Student Loan Debt: 1.5 Trillion Dollars

    The GOP does a stunt with this "impeach Rosenstein" which is noting more than kabuki theatre while they shiv their base in committee.

    We should be eliminating H-1B, not un-capping it.

    We need a pro-natal policy for the responsible middle class that provides the GOP's electoral support, the same kind of policies used in Israel, Hungary, Poland and Russia.

    It’s what the Repubs do. It’s who they are. They’re not nationalists. They oppose nationalism because that’s what their corporate paymasters tell them to do.

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    Well that and they’ve got hearts as big as the whole wide world.
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  146. notanon says:
    @Anon
    Thanks. It seems this was an indirect way of saying "until mankind goes extinct."

    yes and no – if we got off the planet before it moves out of the goldilocks zone it won’t matter

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  147. @The Anti-Gnostic
    One of Atlanta's old blue-bloods, Rupert LeCraw, owned Oxford Books, which went under in the 1990's. Apparently the book business involves rolling over endless lines of credit while you wait for your enormous inventory to trickle out of the store, and Oxford couldn't keep all the balls in the air. It was a truly great local business, and everybody was sorry to see it go.

    I had forgotten about Oxford – an old fav.

    Where was it again? Near Emory?

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    I think that was the original location. Then he moved it to a round, wood-beamed building on Pharr Road. There were always groups of people in there discussing books. Rupert is still around at age 84. I think he was smart enough to spot a trend and started an Oxford Comics store that's still around on Piedmont Road.
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  148. @MBlanc46
    It’s what the Repubs do. It’s who they are. They’re not nationalists. They oppose nationalism because that’s what their corporate paymasters tell them to do.

    Well that and they’ve got hearts as big as the whole wide world.

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  149. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    This is like arguing who is worse - Hitler or Stalin. A plague on both their houses.

    What is really amazing is that everything that Amazon does is in compliance (more or less) with American labor laws.

    You might wonder why anyone in their right mind would go work for Amazon, especially now that the labor market has tightened up? I think the answer is that initially people who work there don't really understand the game and that it's real (even if they have vaguely heard about it) and that when they do find out, many quit (or get forced out by the wolves), which is exactly what Amazon wants. And then of those who stay longer, each one of them thinks that yeah, the game is real but I'M going to be the one who wins it! These are the REAL suckers because Amazon can milk them like crazy until they burn out. And of course, by definition most of those who think they can win the game can't and will leave empty handed eventually - the only question is how long Amazon can lead them on before they throw in the towel.

    http://amazonemancipatory.com/

    Socialist who works at amazon wrote this blog. Shills for foreign workers, so not that helpful. Exposes the “pay to quit” scam and the difficulty of getting the stock options (2 years, no one lasts that long)

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  150. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    1.5 billion in direct tax breaks to Amazon

    https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/amazoncom

    And this is before we estimate the USPS subsidy, and the HQ2 subsidy (red state governors have not withdrawn the offers in solidarity with the President)

    They shouldn’t be hiring a single foreigner, ever.

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  151. 3g4me says:
    @27 year old

    It was a killing of an innocent man
     
    > innocent man

    Citation needed.

    Hostile invader foreigner, stealing a decent salary away from a White American besides, gets in an argument in a bar and winds up dead.

    I’m playing the worlds smallest sitar for pajeet

    The tune goes like this:

    Womp womp

    @136 27 year old: “I’m playing the worlds smallest sitar for pajeet

    The tune goes like this:

    Womp womp.”

    I am so stealing this. After wading through all the boomer, soi-disant intellectual inanities here, you made my day.

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  152. Anonymous[232] • Disclaimer says:
    @jbwilson24
    "They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs."

    Being in China or India might entail 'boosting' their economy a bit, but it also means that they aren't here breeding like rats and trying to alter our culture. This might shock you, being a low class Dalit or whatever you are, but many of us don't see much merit in Indians. Great cultural achievements, but the vast bulk of them are dummies looking for ways to fleece welfare systems.

    There is no asabiyya to be found in Indian immigrants. It is very odd. They are aliens.

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  153. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:

    Great. The country will now be completely swamped by Mexicans, Indians and Chinese. Indians have been pushing for this the hardest because they have the most to gain. I can’t believe a Republican wrote this bill. The GOP really is The Stupid Party. Do they still not get that these groups all vote Democrat? What’s more all are from highly misogynist and dishonest cultures.

    If Trump had any sense whatsoever he’d veto this in a hurry. This bill must not pass or we are fucked.

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  154. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the "non-preference" general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It's a terrible idea.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It’s a terrible idea.

    Trump has sold out his base almost completely on immigration. His “muslim ban” was mostly kabuki theater, along with meaningless actions on the border wall. We may have restricted refugees from Somalia or Syria, but we are increasing our intake from Afghanistan, which is equally bad.

    He has done absolutely nothing on H1b, OPT, and H1b spousal work permit, when all he had to do was undoing the Executive Orders of Bushobama. He’s been pushing hard for DACA amnesty since Day 1, and the immigration plan that the WH presented earlier in the year called specifically for scrapping the per country limit on green cards.

    Trump won on the basis of immigration, but all he cares about is trade and Iran. He has completely let go of immigration and healthcare. Now the GOP fucktards are tyring to pull a fast one on the country to please their rich Indian and Chinese donors, so they can hasten our demise as United States of MexChindia. If these people are so great, their countries wouldn’t be such shitholes.

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    Growing economy means More Workers.

    We need another Depression.
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  155. MarkinLA says:
    @ziggurat
    I totally agree that it would be a mistake to lift the per-country cap on green cards. It seems like we're still on defense. When are we going to get some touchdowns?!

    As many have pointed out and I have personally observed, even educated immigrants strongly vote Democratic.

    It's a mystery to me why only 58% of whites vote Republican. I'm thinking it might pick up, given all the anti-white, Democratic rhetoric. I'm curious if there will be any % increase in the upcoming midterm elections.

    https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit

    No more than 7 percent of the visas may be issued to natives of any one independent country in a fiscal year
     

    It’s a mystery to me why only 58% of whites vote Republican.

    When your choice is a white like Yoder, what do you gain? The mystery is why the Republican Party has lasted as long as it has.

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    It would be a mystery why either party has lasted as long as it has, if it were not for the FPTP voting system, which makes it nearly impossible for either of the two main parties to be replaced. Indeed, it's amazing that the Republicans replaced the Whigs.

    Yoder is the yacker that often remains after a Republican primary with little engagement by the electorate. During his first run for Congress from Kansas 3rd district in 2010, he had 8 primary contenders, all of which he defeated with 45% of the vote. One of them was Patricia Lightner who lost with 37% of the vote, and yet received a perfect NumbersUSA candidate scorecard. The total turnout (including both R and D primaries) was only 108,000 in a district of 560,00 people of voting age, which is only 19% of the electorate. If only 6,000 more people had voted for Lightner, she would have won.

    In 2016, one primary contender (who was described as "far right") Greg Goode lost by 64% to 36%. I'm sure his immigration policy would have been better too.

    Candidates hold widely varying views in 3rd District, U.S. House contest
    And Goode added, “If you want to be an immigrant in this country, subscribe to this culture.”
     
    There are many choices within the Republican party, but they are too often not very good when you get into the general election. To the extent that choice is limited within primaries, it's because of a lack of engagement that would support candidates who don't have much money to run and thus won't run unless they perceive the possibility of grass-roots support.

    Still, there are just about no choices within Democrats. In the House, 36% of Republicans receive a grade of A- or above, whereas literally 0% of Democrats receive a grade of C or above.
    NumbersUSA - recent scorecards for House Republicans
    NumbersUSA - recent scorecards for House Democrats

    Even Yoder get's a B+ on his NumbersUSA scorecard. (He gets an F- on the category of "reduce unnecessary worker visas", which explains his support of unlimited green cards for guest workers from Asia.)

    Any Democrat replacing Yoder would be worse. In the primaries, we can get someone better than Yoder. In the general, we have a choice between Yoder or someone worse than Yoder. That's the story across the country.
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  156. Neoconned says:
    @Thomm
    That policy is too attractive for it to ever be considered.

    Exactly…..forgot who it was in here who proposed bringing a bunch of Salma Hayeks over but as they correctly noted…itll never happen. Ecause when it does every white and black woman in the country would arise in unison and call their govt reps and have that wall slammed shut. .imagine if they actually has to compete with hit young Asians and Latinas a third their age in the marriage market….

    Talk of raising the age of consent to 30 will ensue and mail order brides will be unilaterally declared human trafficking victims set for immediate deportation…..

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  157. Neoconned says:
    @Mr. Rational

    in turn we let in FEMALE ONLY immigrants from Latin America or Asia?
     
    The last thing we need is more resentful mestizos, and even one more Elliot Roger is one too many.

    Lol wait til 2 buxom 25 yr old Latinas offer to join your harem in return for citizenship…..

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    Lol wait til 2 buxom 25 yr old Latinas offer to join your harem in return for citizenship….

    This is a fantasy that exists only in the heads of thirsty, naive white men.

    You're not getting this:

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/519d7155e4b0336e2ef739fa/t/585329efe4fcb564286ab5de/1509823954679/hotmexicanweathergirl

    You're getting this:

    https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/nnw/nnwy94-b88398310z.120150505223402000ggt9ilru.10.jpg?w=620

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  158. Neoconned says:
    @Anon
    Just what we need, more welfare mammas and anchor babies.

    Use tariffs and take away welfare shit from the current deadbeats and illegals and use it.for your own harem of pretty young things like the Saudis do…..

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  159. Anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It’s a terrible idea.
     
    Trump has sold out his base almost completely on immigration. His "muslim ban" was mostly kabuki theater, along with meaningless actions on the border wall. We may have restricted refugees from Somalia or Syria, but we are increasing our intake from Afghanistan, which is equally bad.

    He has done absolutely nothing on H1b, OPT, and H1b spousal work permit, when all he had to do was undoing the Executive Orders of Bushobama. He's been pushing hard for DACA amnesty since Day 1, and the immigration plan that the WH presented earlier in the year called specifically for scrapping the per country limit on green cards.

    Trump won on the basis of immigration, but all he cares about is trade and Iran. He has completely let go of immigration and healthcare. Now the GOP fucktards are tyring to pull a fast one on the country to please their rich Indian and Chinese donors, so they can hasten our demise as United States of MexChindia. If these people are so great, their countries wouldn't be such shitholes.

    Growing economy means More Workers.

    We need another Depression.

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  160. @Achmed E. Newman
    That was a damn good comment, ID! It sums up very well what CRONY Capitalism is about, and how the neo-Bolsheviks can make headway bashing "capitalism". I also appreciate your ZeroHedge-like view of our financial situation.

    I'll have to read more of David Stockman and I wish he could replace one of the Commie writers on Unz. I remember the man from the Reagan administration.

    Having commie writers here is a good thing. Rule one, know your enemy, the UNZ commies make it easy to see where the lunatics are going.

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  161. @Desiderius
    I had forgotten about Oxford - an old fav.

    Where was it again? Near Emory?

    I think that was the original location. Then he moved it to a round, wood-beamed building on Pharr Road. There were always groups of people in there discussing books. Rupert is still around at age 84. I think he was smart enough to spot a trend and started an Oxford Comics store that’s still around on Piedmont Road.

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  162. notanon says:
    @Thomm
    You were doing fine on 1) and 2), but you are wrong about 3).

    I say immigration should ONLY be for p4 and p5 workers. They earn a lot, but then spend a lot as well. They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall, plus such a person here rather than in China or India means they are boosting our economy, not theirs.

    They up the competitiveness of our workforce overall

    no they don’t

    they displace workers of the same level downwards pushing the people at the bottom onto welfare

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  163. @Neoconned
    Lol wait til 2 buxom 25 yr old Latinas offer to join your harem in return for citizenship.....

    Lol wait til 2 buxom 25 yr old Latinas offer to join your harem in return for citizenship….

    This is a fantasy that exists only in the heads of thirsty, naive white men.

    You’re not getting this:

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/519d7155e4b0336e2ef739fa/t/585329efe4fcb564286ab5de/1509823954679/hotmexicanweathergirl

    You’re getting this:

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    You’re not getting this"

    Neither are you.

    "You’re getting this"

    Certainly, in some cases. On another front...

    https://www.newsweek.com/republican-congressman-attractive-children-border-885559

    But do you really think the womenfolk on average who emigrated from Ireland, or Germany, or Italy back in the day were drop dead gorgeous by our standards?

    Did anyone really care about looks when food on the table and clothes on one's back was more important?

    Did your own female ancestors rate in the upper tier of attractiveness according to nativist standards?

    Get a grip.

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  164. Thomm says:
    @jbwilson24
    "Canada pre-Zoolander did very well with such a policy."

    According to who?

    Canada has flooded in legions of low IQ south asians, together with their aging, necrotic grandparents who have never paid a dime in tax (but who soak up 500k in end of life health care costs).

    The legions of Indians in Toronto have added little except elevated sexual assault rates and insurance fraud. They shut down highways to protest their idiotic political issues back home.

    Economically, Chinese and Indian Canadians outperform white Canadians.

    As a White Trashionalist, you may not be smart enough to know how to look up this data, but it is a fact that is openly verifiable.

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  165. Thomm says:
    @Anonymous

    They shut down highways to protest their idiotic political issues back home.
     
    You're thinking of Sri Lankan Tamils

    You’re thinking of Sri Lankan Tamils

    He is nowhere near smart enough to know the difference.

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  166. Ever notice how “reform” only goes in one direction? It’s very much like bipartisanship.

    IOW, do it my way. And shut up.

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  167. ziggurat says:
    @AndrewR
    The Republicans may not be as openly anti-white as the Dems, but they have a lot of positions which turn many whites off: anti-abortion and pro-gun extremism, pro tax cuts for the rich, pro deficit spending, a "die in the streets and/or go bankrupt" approach to health care, a "screw the whales" approach to the environment, etc.

    There are very few non-self-hating whites who are one-issue voters on race, and even if they were, it's not like the GOP is anything approaching pro-white. Look at their reverence for people like Tim Scott, whom they enlisted to browbeat Donald Trump into toeing the line on race.

    Good points, but those divisive issues have always been present. In years past, I was sympathetic with many Democratic positions. However, I cannot imagine voting Democratic now, given the dramatic increase in rhetoric that is anti-white, pro-mass-immigration, and pro-welfare too.

    The progressives are pushing for more governmental support for the poor, while nearly in the same breath, they quote the verse “give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.”

    The new star of the Democratic party, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, wants universal healthcare and guaranteed federal jobs, while simultaneously increasing immigration and reducing ICE deportations.

    I’ve never thought the Republican party is or has ever been pro-white nor did I ever even care about that. However, the Democrats has become more obviously anti-white and anti-citizen. They care more about foreign citizens than “POC”.

    Seinfeld on immigration:

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  168. ziggurat says:
    @MarkinLA
    It’s a mystery to me why only 58% of whites vote Republican.


    When your choice is a white like Yoder, what do you gain? The mystery is why the Republican Party has lasted as long as it has.

    It would be a mystery why either party has lasted as long as it has, if it were not for the FPTP voting system, which makes it nearly impossible for either of the two main parties to be replaced. Indeed, it’s amazing that the Republicans replaced the Whigs.

    Yoder is the yacker that often remains after a Republican primary with little engagement by the electorate. During his first run for Congress from Kansas 3rd district in 2010, he had 8 primary contenders, all of which he defeated with 45% of the vote. One of them was Patricia Lightner who lost with 37% of the vote, and yet received a perfect NumbersUSA candidate scorecard. The total turnout (including both R and D primaries) was only 108,000 in a district of 560,00 people of voting age, which is only 19% of the electorate. If only 6,000 more people had voted for Lightner, she would have won.

    In 2016, one primary contender (who was described as “far right”) Greg Goode lost by 64% to 36%. I’m sure his immigration policy would have been better too.

    Candidates hold widely varying views in 3rd District, U.S. House contest
    And Goode added, “If you want to be an immigrant in this country, subscribe to this culture.”

    There are many choices within the Republican party, but they are too often not very good when you get into the general election. To the extent that choice is limited within primaries, it’s because of a lack of engagement that would support candidates who don’t have much money to run and thus won’t run unless they perceive the possibility of grass-roots support.

    Still, there are just about no choices within Democrats. In the House, 36% of Republicans receive a grade of A- or above, whereas literally 0% of Democrats receive a grade of C or above.
    NumbersUSA – recent scorecards for House Republicans
    NumbersUSA – recent scorecards for House Democrats

    Even Yoder get’s a B+ on his NumbersUSA scorecard. (He gets an F- on the category of “reduce unnecessary worker visas”, which explains his support of unlimited green cards for guest workers from Asia.)

    Any Democrat replacing Yoder would be worse. In the primaries, we can get someone better than Yoder. In the general, we have a choice between Yoder or someone worse than Yoder. That’s the story across the country.

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  169. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Lol wait til 2 buxom 25 yr old Latinas offer to join your harem in return for citizenship….

    This is a fantasy that exists only in the heads of thirsty, naive white men.

    You're not getting this:

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/519d7155e4b0336e2ef739fa/t/585329efe4fcb564286ab5de/1509823954679/hotmexicanweathergirl

    You're getting this:

    https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/nnw/nnwy94-b88398310z.120150505223402000ggt9ilru.10.jpg?w=620

    You’re not getting this”

    Neither are you.

    “You’re getting this”

    Certainly, in some cases. On another front…

    https://www.newsweek.com/republican-congressman-attractive-children-border-885559

    But do you really think the womenfolk on average who emigrated from Ireland, or Germany, or Italy back in the day were drop dead gorgeous by our standards?

    Did anyone really care about looks when food on the table and clothes on one’s back was more important?

    Did your own female ancestors rate in the upper tier of attractiveness according to nativist standards?

    Get a grip.

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  170. @Barnard
    It is, but the Amish and Mennonites are not the same. The Mennonite denomination Yoder most likely would have been raised in is just another liberal, mainline type denomination. Under the "what we believe" section of their website, they have "Undoing racism and advancing intercultural transformation" featured. I have heard other Christian pastors joke that pacifism is the only plank of their theology, but it appears they are expanding into social justice. According to Wikipedia, Yoder attends a United Methodist megachurch in suburban Kansas City now.

    http://mennoniteusa.org/what-we-believe/

    You are correct, my Grandmother came from some Yoder stock. The mainline Mennonite churches have gone off the social justice deep end. Many of my Mennonite relatives have long left the Mennonite church and went to more conservative evangelical churches.

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  171. @PiltdownMan
    This would be a huge and fundamental change to our immigration laws. The per-country limit on green cards was instituted in the major immigration reforms of 1965, with the original intention of making our immigration policy blind as to national origin, with every country having the same number of green-cards being awarded annually, as the baseline. Exceptions applied, of course, such as family preferences.

    But in practice, the quota had some unexpected positive effects. It capped legal immigration levels from nearby, poor, Latin American countries and highly populated third-world countries. And, as Europe became prosperous and the demand for green-cards fell off, it has meant that pretty much anyone from a White European society who has wanted to emigrate here, in the last half-century, has been able to do so under the "non-preference" general category, without much hindrance or delay.

    The reason why Bezos and Silicon Valley are happy with this amendment is, of course, that the provision also was a severe constraint on the number of technology workers from hugely populated China and India who could emigrate here. H1-B and other workers already here from those countries face a ten or fifteen year wait to get their permanent residence in the United States these days.

    If the provision is signed into law, expect a flood of Chinese and Indian immigrants into the United States as never seen before. And it will encourage Latin Americans to seek to immigrate legally, also in massive numbers.

    I hope President Trump vetoes it. It's a terrible idea.

    This is only for high-skilled labor bill, a separate category of Green Card. This has nothing to do with regular Green-Cards. High-Skilled labor bill is so skewed that representatives from some countries were not allowed to get the green-card even after 30 years of wait. Companies are exploiting them, since without Green-Cards they don’t have the luxury to move to a new job. So they are paid less than American workers. Effectively, keeping the wage low for everyone.

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