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From the Wall Street Journal, an article that doesn’t have too much new news, but gives me an excuse to offer some perspective on the Bush Dynasty’s self-image of their role in New World history:

How Jeb Bush Spent His Years on Wall Street
Former governor’s time at Lehman and Barclays sets him apart from other presidential hopefuls

By JUSTIN BAER
Aug. 4, 2015 10:30 p.m. ET

Ten weeks before the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., a financial disaster that ushered in the global economic crisis in September 2008, Jeb Bush was in Mexico City to seek help from billionaire Carlos Slim.

Mr. Bush signed on with Lehman after leaving the Florida governor’s mansion, making it clear he wanted work as a hands-on investment banker rather than hold a ceremonial role typically given ex-politicians. Now was his chance.

Mr. Bush was a longtime acquaintance of Mr. Slim, at the time ranked as the world’s second wealthiest individual and one of several deep-pocketed investors on Lehman’s radar. “Project Verde” was supposed to bring home badly needed cash and confidence. Mr. Slim, however, was more interested in talking baseball than investing in the troubled firm.

More doors closed that summer before Lehman shut its own, but Mr. Bush, following in the footsteps of a grandfather and great-grandfather, latched onto investment banking through the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

For more than seven years, nearly the length of his two gubernatorial terms, Mr. Bush, a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, spent as much as half of his working hours advising Lehman and later Barclays, which bought the collapsed investment bank’s U.S. business. He wasn’t an employee of the firms, said people familiar with the matter, but was paid to attend meetings, dinners and conferences where he spoke to clients and bank executives on such subjects as health care, education, immigration and energy—matters he has started taking up this year with voters.

Mr. Bush earned about $1.3 million a year at Lehman and some $2 million from Barclays, his campaign said. …

Mr. Bush received a warm welcome on Wall Street, where financial firms often seek former political figures to help open doors. At least six firms offered Mr. Bush a position when he finished his second term as governor in January 2007, according to people familiar with the matter.

When he joined Lehman in June that year, Mr. Bush was the brother of a sitting U.S. president, George W. Bush, and already had ties with the investment bank, known for its scrappy culture and aggressive management team led by chief executive Richard Fuld, a longtime Democrat.

In other words, the President’s brother took several months to decide which Wall Street firm to cast his lot with and picked the one that blew up the world less than a year and a half later.

Unlike most former politicians in finance, Mr. Bush was seen as “commercial,” almost a term of endearment on Wall Street meaning he understood how bankers prepared for meetings, advised clients and made money.

Jeb strikes me as an amiable second rater relative to his older brother, a hostile third rater.

… Finance, however, is part of the Bush family history. Jeb’s great-grandfather, George Herbert Walker, and grandfather, Prescott Bush, both worked at the firm that became investment bank Brown Brothers Harriman & Co.

“I’d say for the Kennedys, politics was in their DNA,” Ms. Perry said. “In the case of the Bushes, it’s both politics and high finance.” …

Mr. Bush’s fluency in Spanish and extensive experience in Latin America made him a good choice for the July 2, 2008, trip to Mexico City. He also knew Mr. Slim well: the Mexican billionaire had lent a collection of small-scale Rodin sculptures for the Florida governor’s mansion when Mr. Bush lived there. …

Mr. Bush and a handful of Lehman advisers also met with Mr. Slim in his office that day to propose a number of deals, including an investment in Lehman. The answer, the Lehman team soon learned, was no.

“Project verde was unsuccessful,” Mr. Bush wrote to a colleague after the meeting in a July 5, 2008 email made public during Lehman’s bankruptcy proceedings. “He did not express interest in jv or stock purchase.”

While refusing to pour his money down the Lehman rathole, Slim went on to bail out the New York Times. It’s almost as if Slim understands America better than the Bushes do …

The background on all this is that the Bush family has been interested in reversing Mexican economic nationalism / protectionism — highlighted by the 1938 kicking out of American and British oil companies (recently reversed) — for a very long time. There’s a lot of money to be made grinding down the border between America and Mexico, and it’s by no means impossible to persuade yourself you are doing it for the good of your country.

George H.W. Bush named the oil firm he cofounded in Texas in 1953 Zapata (similarly, George W. Bush named his oil firm Arbusto). By 1960 the elder Bush had hired a Mexican front man, Jorge Diaz Serrano, to allow Zapata to operate in Mexican waters. Diaz Serrano later went on to be head of Mexico’s Pemex monopoly and to steal so flagrantly during the late 1970s boom that he was one of the three government officials symbolically imprisoned for corruption by the new PRI president elected in 1982.

GHW Bush & Carlos Salinas

Much of the elder Bush’s presidency consisted of reacting to various unexpected developments, such as the decline of the Soviet Union, the invasion of Kuwait, the recession, the Los Angeles riots, and so forth. But one exception to this “in-box Presidency” where Bush was more proactive was NAFTA, helping get Mexico to join the trade agreement long underway between the U.S. and Canada.

The elder Bush used his Spanish-speaking son Jeb and Mexican daughter-in-law Columba Bush in a diplomatic role of building ties with the Salinas clan ruling Mexico.

Dolia Estevez wrote in Forbes on April 7:

In 1988, as a special gesture to Salinas, Bush sent his daughter-in-law Columba to his inauguration. …

The vast bulk of Carlos Slim’s fortune derives from President Salinas selling him the Mexican government’s telecom monopoly, so the Bushes and Slim are linked at least through their mutual friendship with the Salinases.

Similarly, GWB came to office in 2001 with as a very high priority negotiating an immigration deal with the new PAN government of Mexico. Why? Why not? Doing deals with Mexico is what Bushes do.

The Bushes’ ties to Mexico, however, have not been free from controversy. During the first Bush Administration, Jeb and Columba became close to Raúl Salinas de Gortari, the then President’s powerful and controversial older brother.

Raul Salinas

After Salinas left office in 1994, the Salinas family fell from grace in a swirl of drug-related corruption and crime scandals. Raúl was jailed and convicted on charges of money laundering and of masterminding the assassination of his brother-in-law; after spending 10 years in jail, Raúl was acquitted of both crimes.

Another Salinas brother, Enrique, was found dead in a car in 2004, apparently murdered.

With the scandal unraveling, Jeb’s friendship with Raúl did not go unnoticed. “There has been a great deal of speculation in Mexico about the exact nature of Raúl Salinas’ close friendship with former President George Bush’s son, Jeb. It is well known here [Mexico] that for many years the two families spent vacations together–the Salinases at Jeb Bush’s home in Miami, the Bushes at Raul’s ranch, Las Mendocinas, under the volcano in Puebla. There are many in Mexico who believe that the relationship became a back channel for delicate and crucial negotiations between the two governments, leading up to President Bush’s sponsorship of NAFTA,” wrote Mexican intellectual Jorge G. Castañeda, in a 1995 op-ed in The Los Angles Times. Castañeda later became Mexico’s Foreign Minister.

Jeb has never denied his friendship with Raúl, who keeps a low profile in Mexico. Kristy Campbell, spokesperson for Bush, did not respond a request for comment. …

After leaving the Governor’s mansion in 2007, Jeb continued to cultivate his connections to Mexico’s powerful elite. … Later McCain and Bush dined at the U.S. Embassy with some of Mexico’s most powerful businessmen, including Carlos Slim Domit, telecom mogul Carlos Slim Helú’s older son.

So, much of the background of the immigration issue is tied into a Game of Thrones played by clans like the Bushes, Salinases, Slims, etc. But we’re not supposed to notice that. We’re supposed to believe that it’s all about fighting the good fight against white racism, so therefore you are a racist if you are skeptical about what the Bushes are up to.

 
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  1. Honest fortunes are not made this way. Think of Thaksin in Thailand. If the fast way to wealth is through telecom, then you know you have a corruption problem as telecom rights are in the gift of the government.

    In days gone by, the Mexican police chief was one of the richest men in the world. Today, the Mexican kleptocracy has learned to be a little bit more subtle.

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  2. “Jeb strikes me as an amiable second rater relative to his older brother, a hostile third rater.

    I hate W’s politics – in a just world he would be tried for war crimes – but I never thought of him as hostile personality-wise. All the Bushes have pleasant, likable personalities.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Hostile might not be the best word, but he does seem less amiable than Jeb.
    , @22pp22
    Jeb does not strike me as amiable. Give him some time in office and he'll go over to the dark side.
    , @Mr. Anon
    I never saw anything especially pleasant or likeable about G.W. He often came across like a smug, spoiled little brat. I understand he had a penchant for bestowing nicknames on his underlings too, which is a crappy, patronizing little habit often practiced by princelings (I had read that JFK used to do the same thing).
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  3. Steve, you’re missing a “not”before the “supposed” in your penultimate sentence.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
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  4. Beneath Jeb Bush’s mild-mannered, unassuming demeanor is the hardest of men, who knows the screams of 20,000 as their blood flows knee-high for Huitzilopochtli.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Beneath Jeb Bush’s mild-mannered, unassuming demeanor is the hardest of men, who knows the screams of 20,000 as their blood flows knee-high for Huitzilopochtli.

     

    Is that pronounced chutzpah ?
    , @SFG
    I think this is a very obscure Hitchhiker's Guide reference...
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  5. @Dave Pinsen
    Steve, you're missing a "not"before the "supposed" in your penultimate sentence.

    Thanks.

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  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Jeb Bush and the Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal in 1986″

    “This blog is about how the Bushes and Oliver North murdered CIA drug smuggler Barry Seal in 1986 in order to keep a lid on Iran-Contra and government’s and Bush family participation in CIA drug smuggling to support the Nicaraguan contras (and no doubt to skim some off the top for themselves).”

    http://barrysealmurder1986jebbusholivernorth.blogspot.com/2013/03/jeb-bush-and-1986-murder-of-cia-drug_6.html

    Jeb Bush in 1986 was the 33-year-old chairman of the Dade County Republican party and he was up to his eyeballs in the Iran-contra scandal. To get a taste of that read Al Martin’s book The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider (2002) and read about Jeb Bush’s dealings with operatives such as Al Martin, Oliver North, Richard Secord, Dewey Clarridge, Sam Watson, Fred Ikley and, of course, his father George Herbert Walker Bush. Basically Jeb Bush was in the center of a wasp’s nest of dirty dealing CIA/military operatives engaged in rampant criminality – all in the name of “national security.”

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  7. @Glossy
    "Jeb strikes me as an amiable second rater relative to his older brother, a hostile third rater.

    I hate W's politics - in a just world he would be tried for war crimes - but I never thought of him as hostile personality-wise. All the Bushes have pleasant, likable personalities.

    Hostile might not be the best word, but he does seem less amiable than Jeb.

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    • Replies: @Richard
    Is there a compound German word for "sullenly jovial"?
    , @Dave Pinsen
    W. had a chip on his shoulder. Remember when he flipped out on the reporter for asking Chirac a question in French (at a press conference in France)? Jeb probably wouldn't do that.
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  8. Finance is such a huge part of our economy due to the evil Fed. It is making all of these creeps a bundle. End the Fed!

    Steve, this bear attack victim looks like you:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192405/Rangers-catch-grizzly-suspected-Yellowstone-hiker-death.html

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  9. @Anonymous
    Beneath Jeb Bush's mild-mannered, unassuming demeanor is the hardest of men, who knows the screams of 20,000 as their blood flows knee-high for Huitzilopochtli.

    Beneath Jeb Bush’s mild-mannered, unassuming demeanor is the hardest of men, who knows the screams of 20,000 as their blood flows knee-high for Huitzilopochtli.

    Is that pronounced chutzpah ?

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    • Replies: @IBC
    Netanyahu is left-handed and Israel is south of Connecticut:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GpNVwb68_zk/To0sGuYSW9I/AAAAAAAAA6c/3GkHcc1ScAA/s1600/Netanyahu350x.jpg

    Coincidence?


    The name literally means something like "Hummingbird('s) South" or "Hummingbird('s) Left", yet it has commonly been translated as "Southern hummingbird"[2] or "left-handed hummingbird".
     
    And he certainly demands tribute.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huitzilopochtli --The Aztec god of war.

    Note: The first image is courtesy of the "Great Lefties" blogspot.

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  10. I’ve spent the better part of the day in the comments sections of liberal sites making the simple point that the Democratic Party is the natural vehicle through which these Black Lives Matter folks should pursue their agenda, and that the Democrat Party should embrace that agenda fully. And damn you should watch these people squirm. I actually got banned by Washington Monthly just for making that simple argument! It’s like these people know they can’t win as the Black Lives Matter party, and yet they also can’t win without the Black Lives Matter people. The diversion and the misdirection is really something to behold. It would be absolute malpractice for the GOP nominee to fail to force Hillary to chose between black lives matter and all lives matter. But only Jeb! would be that dumb right?

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Truthfully, Arthur, I'm not completely sure I understand the point(s) you were trying to make. But I'd like to tell you that, owing to BLM's serial protest against Sanders and O'Malley, some people are starting to suspect that the movement has already been co-opted by the Clinton machine, and is being used as a tool to destroy her enemies inside the party.
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  11. I’m a rather cynical type, even for the Steve-o-Sphere … but I think the rough outlines of a way forward could conceivably be starting to form.

    (1) Trump continues to get headlines, and continues to hammer the immigration issue. More importantly, he specifically mentions the immigration issue in the context of depressed wages and lower standards of living. He’s already two-thirds of the way there (mentioned being a “jobs President” and mentioned the problems cause by illegal immigration); he just needs to combine the themes.

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says “they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages.”

    (2) As we get further into the winter and towards the spring, Trump keeps a strong following. But he takes some knocks, makes some mistakes, and the GOP establishment coalesces around one of the establishment figures. It would be helpful if it were Jeb, the most useless clown of the whole bunch.

    (3) Trump runs third party. He takes it seriously, and hones his delivery and skills. Even when it becomes clear – as we get into next summer – that he’s not going to win, he continues to buy ads and continues to talk about immigration. He makes specific promises as to what he would do – no amnesty, no more H1B visas, fewer guest college students, serious border security.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. “The new America is going to look different.” She goes anti-white male and appeals to the “emerging majority,” etc.

    (5) Jeb Bush is caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, his entire schtick is based upon being the Republican who can appeal to Latinos – “look at my beautiful wife!” On the other hand, he knows he has to bring Trump voters into the fold. He tries to do both and fails – Trump voters aren’t convinced, anti-white-male types aren’t going to vote for him anyway.

    (6) Hillary wins in a fairly decisive victory. She gets (say) 47 percent, Jeb gets 38 percent, Trump gets 11 percent, with 4 percent going protest / small-party / etc.

    (7) The day after the election, the GOP leadership – the true leadership, highest ranking members of the House and Senate and their top staffers, highest levels of power in the RNC, big-money legacy types – wake up furious at the white GOP base. “Don’t they know they just gave us Hillary! Those idiots! Grrrr!!”

    (8) The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future. They have only one reasonable conclusion: they have to become an anti-immigration party. While it’s not a guarantee of success, at least there is a path: they can try to go populist, go after the working-class and middle-class white votes, go after the black voters angry about no employment prospects and horrible wages, and become a nationalist “America first” party. Not because it’s the right thing to do (which they don’t care about), but because they realize they have to choose between the mega-donors and the average voter on the street. While they’ve been able to suck up to the donors and fool the voters for the past 30 years, Trump proves it won’t be so easy anymore. ”

    What do you think?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I think it's more likely that Jeb uses his Mexican connections to have Trump Huey Long-ed, which will be blamed on an angry Mexican gunman upset about Trump's comments.
    , @Richard
    You're confusing GOP elite members' self-interest with party success, rather than what's actually good for them as individuals. They succeed if they keep getting hired as consultants, as pontificators at think tanks, as party staffers, and hold onto elective office in a few solid Red fiefdoms that would choke rather than elect a Democrat. The current ideological configuration of the Republican Party works beautifully for them, because it has placed them at the top of the heap. A new realignment of the GOP's values would mean (for most of them) their displacement, which is why guys like Krauthammer are so personally enraged by Trump's candidacy.

    To illustrate from across the pond, look at how David Cameron and his allies were so staunchly opposed to the exit of leftist Scotland from the UK, even though objectively it would have been great for the Conservative Party. Yes, great for the Tories .... but absolutely terrible for Cameron and his cronies, since in a UK without Scotland, Cameron would make no sense as a national party leader. Both the Labour and Conservative parties would have moved rightward to fill up the ideological vacuum caused by Scotland's exit, but it's much harder for individual politicians to make that swing and survive voter scrutiny.

    This is why political realignments are difficult to achieve artificially. Most political realignments, like the Reagan Revolution or Obama's landslide victories, are more or less passively riding social forces that were operating naturally. Reagan essentially ran out the Goldwater coalition, which by 1980 was robust enough (through Boomers and late Silents coming of age) to achieve what it could not in 1964; Obama's coalition is just McGovern's, fattened up by gentrification and the 1965 Immigration Act.

    When you don't have the luxury of riding natural population growth in constituencies that are already disposed to favor you, you're fighting your own elected leaders, your donors, your partisan press, your think tank ideologues, just to smash the table and build a coalition that would actually win in a demographic environment vastly changed from when that original group came to power within the party.

    That's extremely difficult to do, which is why Trump will likely fail, even if he wins the nomination. The best case scenario may be that Trump will lay the groundwork for a future realignment in 2032 or 2052, after the current party bosses and strategists have died off.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says “they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages.”

     

    Has Trump brought this aspect up yet? Santorum and Walker already have.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. “The new America is going to look different.” She goes anti-white male and appeals to the “emerging majority,” etc.
     
    Turn in your cynic's card. You think the High Queen of Triangulation will go full-bore ideological and commit political suicide?

    The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future.
     
    Yea, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. You're not a cynic, you're a fantasist.
    , @ricpic
    In no way do you justify your assumption that the GOP Establishment will somehow derail Trump or that Trump will derail himself. The latter is a possibility. The former, given the lumbering incompetence and utter tone deafness of the GOP Establishment is highly unlikely. The biggest danger Trump faces is his own tongue. But so far gaffes that would have killed any other aspirant have done no damage to Trump. Assuming he makes it to Iowa and New Hampshire and wins those primaries his momentum will make him unstoppable. And he will slaughter the incredibly unattractive Rodham (or fratboy Biden or grandpa Sanders) in the general election.
    , @Bill Jones
    In my wildest fantasy, Trump causes the corrupt corporatist war-mongering Zionist GOP to implode.
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  12. “It ain’t the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I’m smart! For f__k’ s sake, I was governor of Florida!Not like everybody says… like dumb… I’m smart and I want respect! “

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    Since I don't have an upvote button, here's a +1.
    , @njguy73
    I've heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen
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  13. Brilliant take Steve. As far as that goes, we can do better than a Game of Thrones between Hillary! and El ¡Jebe! Hillary and Bill and the Kennedys made out like bandits on the Haitian Phone deal; they got a cut of the cut that the Haitian government took for emigrant Haitians paid to call to Haiti. Similar to Slim’s deal.

    Both here, and in Europe, elites have had it their way, for a long time, say 1968 at least. How long they can suppress Derb’s “National Question” is open to question. I’d say, not long.

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  14. The code names for three of the CIA naval vessels used in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion were “Houston”, “Barbara” and “Zapata”. More than investment banking and the oil business, Bush 41′s real career was likely with The Agency.

    Bush’s Zapata venture (or perhaps his cover) was financed in part by Eugene Meyer, the owner at the time of the Washington Post. Meyer was also a Chairman of the Federal Reserve and the first President of the World Bank.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRG_Group

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    • Replies: @Marat
    Those CIA lifers just can't resist historically rich and romantically clever names for their operations - Zapata!

    Great article Steve. From now until apparently Doomsday, every*four*years the electorate will need a brush up primer on the financial and intelligence antics of all Ws (including Neil).
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  15. He wasn’t an employee of the firms, said people familiar with the matter, but was paid to attend meetings, dinners and conferences where he spoke to clients and bank executives on such subjects as health care, education, immigration and energy—matters he has started taking up this year with voters.

    I’ll bet those clients and bank executives were just as bored listening to Jeb talk about health care, education, immigration and energy as all the rest of us are.

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  16. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Much of the elder Bush’s presidency consisted of reacting to various unexpected developments, such as the decline of the Soviet Union, the invasion of Kuwait, the recession, the Los Angeles riots, and so forth.”

    On the Left, there was talk of how the Bush administration had ensnared Hussein into a trap.
    Supposedly, the US ambassador to Iraq gave mixed signals or even suggested that US would not oppose Hussein’s move on Kuwait.

    At the time, I didn’t believe it. I thought the ambassador was just inept or Hussein interpreted it wrong. I still believed in the US and thought US wouldn’t do something do down-and-dirty.
    But when I look at more recent events in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine–and all the lies told by government and served by the media–, I’m having second thoughts about how the Gulf War happened.

    And one thing still sticks in my mind. During the Iran-Iraq War, I recall the US media saw Hussein as ‘our man in the middle east, the relatively sane sunni fighting the crazy shias of Iran’.

    George Will wrote a column about how Hussein is worse than Mussolini. What really sticks out is the stridency of the article. Hussein isn’t just some bad guy but the Big Bad Wolf, the instigator of a great new conflict after the Cold War… as if US is desperate for a new bogeyman.
    But, but, but… when Hussein was fighting Iran, he was the ‘good guy’.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1990/08/03/wolf-out-of-babylon/f700ada2-5ab9-41df-916e-61ba97e3a051/

    Given recent events, I’m convinced people in US government are capable of anything.

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    It goes to show you, that no country should trust the U.S. government and it's minions. They will use you and then betray you.

    Our leaders make Putin look like a choir boy with their rampant sociopathy and neoliberal economics agenda.

    Yes look at our foreign policy in the ME. Before Bush came in, it was relatively stable and full of secular regimes that kept a lid on the fanatics.

    Well around that time our principal adversary collapsed (Soviet Union) so we needed a new boogey man. Our old ally Saddam fit the bill quite nicely when we green lighted his attack on Kuwait then we attacked him. The old man did everything to placate the U.S. over something he considered a local matter.

    It was a quick and easy win for our roided up military. Gave a big boost to a moribund GOP. His son finished off Iraq and turned it into a Shia theocracy. He used Georgia to start a suicidal war with Russia over Ossetia and funded various color revolutions all over the old Soviet union to install puppet regimes loyal to us.

    Obama following in Bush's footsteps ruined Syria, destroyed Libya both of which are now terrorist havens. He got rid of Mubarack and tried to install a bloodthirsty fanatic. Yemen collapsed, Turkey has went over to ISIS's side.

    One could say we manufactured our enemies. Look at all the nice new American weapons, vehicles and gear ISIS has, not to mention being trained by our Special Ops.

    Oh yeah he toppled the Ukrainian government and even attempted to formant opposition to Putin. And now our military is training Neo-Nazis in Western Ukraine.

    What a gag fest of evil.
    , @Seamus Padraig

    But when I look at more recent events in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine–and all the lies told by government and served by the media–, I’m having second thoughts about how the Gulf War happened.
     
    Me too. I am now convinced that Hussein was coaxed into invading Kuwait so that Washington would have a pretext to start setting up permanent bases in the Persian Gulf.
    , @guest
    "But, but, but… when Hussein was fighting Iran, he was the ‘good guy’"

    That's happened a hundred times and more, and will continue to happen. The worst example, and most head-spinning, is the Soviet Union, which went from international pariah to pure evil when it teamed up with the Nazis, to not so bad as the Nazis and an ally of convenience when we started to prop them up after the Nazi invasion, to Our Gallant Ally and partner in future World Peace over the course of the war once the propaganda machine got to work on them, to the new global Public Enemies after the war when we found it convenient to pretend they were about to conquer the world, too. All they had to do with Iraq was turn it from better than Iran to the next most invadable country after Afghanistan.
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  17. @Bugg
    "It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! For f__k' s sake, I was governor of Florida!Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! "

    Since I don’t have an upvote button, here’s a +1.

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  18. I don’t think Jeb and Columba Bushes’ ties to Raúl Salinas de Gortari should be held against them. After all, pretty much anyone in Mexico’s wealthy elite with whom you have ties is likely to be vicious and corrupt.

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  19. @MKP
    I'm a rather cynical type, even for the Steve-o-Sphere ... but I think the rough outlines of a way forward could conceivably be starting to form.

    (1) Trump continues to get headlines, and continues to hammer the immigration issue. More importantly, he specifically mentions the immigration issue in the context of depressed wages and lower standards of living. He's already two-thirds of the way there (mentioned being a "jobs President" and mentioned the problems cause by illegal immigration); he just needs to combine the themes.

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says "they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages."

    (2) As we get further into the winter and towards the spring, Trump keeps a strong following. But he takes some knocks, makes some mistakes, and the GOP establishment coalesces around one of the establishment figures. It would be helpful if it were Jeb, the most useless clown of the whole bunch.

    (3) Trump runs third party. He takes it seriously, and hones his delivery and skills. Even when it becomes clear - as we get into next summer - that he's not going to win, he continues to buy ads and continues to talk about immigration. He makes specific promises as to what he would do - no amnesty, no more H1B visas, fewer guest college students, serious border security.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. "The new America is going to look different." She goes anti-white male and appeals to the "emerging majority," etc.

    (5) Jeb Bush is caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, his entire schtick is based upon being the Republican who can appeal to Latinos - "look at my beautiful wife!" On the other hand, he knows he has to bring Trump voters into the fold. He tries to do both and fails - Trump voters aren't convinced, anti-white-male types aren't going to vote for him anyway.

    (6) Hillary wins in a fairly decisive victory. She gets (say) 47 percent, Jeb gets 38 percent, Trump gets 11 percent, with 4 percent going protest / small-party / etc.

    (7) The day after the election, the GOP leadership - the true leadership, highest ranking members of the House and Senate and their top staffers, highest levels of power in the RNC, big-money legacy types - wake up furious at the white GOP base. "Don't they know they just gave us Hillary! Those idiots! Grrrr!!"

    (8) The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future. They have only one reasonable conclusion: they have to become an anti-immigration party. While it's not a guarantee of success, at least there is a path: they can try to go populist, go after the working-class and middle-class white votes, go after the black voters angry about no employment prospects and horrible wages, and become a nationalist "America first" party. Not because it's the right thing to do (which they don't care about), but because they realize they have to choose between the mega-donors and the average voter on the street. While they've been able to suck up to the donors and fool the voters for the past 30 years, Trump proves it won't be so easy anymore. "

    What do you think?

    I think it’s more likely that Jeb uses his Mexican connections to have Trump Huey Long-ed, which will be blamed on an angry Mexican gunman upset about Trump’s comments.

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  20. advancedatheist [AKA "RedneckCryonicist"] says:

    You have to admit that the Bushes have stuck to their Long Game of uniting the U.S. with Mexico. This shows a longer attention span than we normally see in generally mediocre white people.

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    Old-school WASPs, as whom the Bushes would qualify, knew how to think long-term. Doesn't mean it's in the interests of the country.
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  21. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “In other words, the President’s brother took several months to decide which Wall Street firm to cast his lot with and picked the one that blew up the world less than a year and a half later.”

    That’s pretty funny … and not very impressive, in fact kind of scary

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  22. you have GOT to trust on this and click the link.

    This video uncovers what really happened to Mike Brown

    https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CMGQLXdUcAAzB4F.mp4?”

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  23. the video in my previous comment wouldn’t play via this comment box. it works if you paste the url into a new tab address field. it is funnnny. so i leave it here in quotes.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CMGQLXdUcAAzB4F.mp4″

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  24. OT:

    Commenters to Ignore: Is this a new feature?

    “Ron UnzBoring- Windbag” – very funny!

    Also, how does one agree or disagree with a comment? Thanks.

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  25. @Anon
    "Much of the elder Bush’s presidency consisted of reacting to various unexpected developments, such as the decline of the Soviet Union, the invasion of Kuwait, the recession, the Los Angeles riots, and so forth."

    On the Left, there was talk of how the Bush administration had ensnared Hussein into a trap.
    Supposedly, the US ambassador to Iraq gave mixed signals or even suggested that US would not oppose Hussein's move on Kuwait.

    At the time, I didn't believe it. I thought the ambassador was just inept or Hussein interpreted it wrong. I still believed in the US and thought US wouldn't do something do down-and-dirty.
    But when I look at more recent events in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine--and all the lies told by government and served by the media--, I'm having second thoughts about how the Gulf War happened.

    And one thing still sticks in my mind. During the Iran-Iraq War, I recall the US media saw Hussein as 'our man in the middle east, the relatively sane sunni fighting the crazy shias of Iran'.

    George Will wrote a column about how Hussein is worse than Mussolini. What really sticks out is the stridency of the article. Hussein isn't just some bad guy but the Big Bad Wolf, the instigator of a great new conflict after the Cold War... as if US is desperate for a new bogeyman.
    But, but, but... when Hussein was fighting Iran, he was the 'good guy'.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1990/08/03/wolf-out-of-babylon/f700ada2-5ab9-41df-916e-61ba97e3a051/

    Given recent events, I'm convinced people in US government are capable of anything.

    It goes to show you, that no country should trust the U.S. government and it’s minions. They will use you and then betray you.

    Our leaders make Putin look like a choir boy with their rampant sociopathy and neoliberal economics agenda.

    Yes look at our foreign policy in the ME. Before Bush came in, it was relatively stable and full of secular regimes that kept a lid on the fanatics.

    Well around that time our principal adversary collapsed (Soviet Union) so we needed a new boogey man. Our old ally Saddam fit the bill quite nicely when we green lighted his attack on Kuwait then we attacked him. The old man did everything to placate the U.S. over something he considered a local matter.

    It was a quick and easy win for our roided up military. Gave a big boost to a moribund GOP. His son finished off Iraq and turned it into a Shia theocracy. He used Georgia to start a suicidal war with Russia over Ossetia and funded various color revolutions all over the old Soviet union to install puppet regimes loyal to us.

    Obama following in Bush’s footsteps ruined Syria, destroyed Libya both of which are now terrorist havens. He got rid of Mubarack and tried to install a bloodthirsty fanatic. Yemen collapsed, Turkey has went over to ISIS’s side.

    One could say we manufactured our enemies. Look at all the nice new American weapons, vehicles and gear ISIS has, not to mention being trained by our Special Ops.

    Oh yeah he toppled the Ukrainian government and even attempted to formant opposition to Putin. And now our military is training Neo-Nazis in Western Ukraine.

    What a gag fest of evil.

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    Brilliant comment, in every detail. Though I have suspicions that nothing that happens in Egypt can be significantly influenced by the United States -too many people, too little land, not enough territory-holding militants.
    , @Ragno
    The single most politically - and morally - astute reply on this thread. Well done!
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  26. @Clifford Brown
    The code names for three of the CIA naval vessels used in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion were "Houston", "Barbara" and "Zapata". More than investment banking and the oil business, Bush 41's real career was likely with The Agency.

    Bush's Zapata venture (or perhaps his cover) was financed in part by Eugene Meyer, the owner at the time of the Washington Post. Meyer was also a Chairman of the Federal Reserve and the first President of the World Bank.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRG_Group

    Those CIA lifers just can’t resist historically rich and romantically clever names for their operations – Zapata!

    Great article Steve. From now until apparently Doomsday, every*four*years the electorate will need a brush up primer on the financial and intelligence antics of all Ws (including Neil).

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    Agree. Great post.
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  27. @Marat
    Those CIA lifers just can't resist historically rich and romantically clever names for their operations - Zapata!

    Great article Steve. From now until apparently Doomsday, every*four*years the electorate will need a brush up primer on the financial and intelligence antics of all Ws (including Neil).

    Agree. Great post.

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  28. @Anonymous
    Hostile might not be the best word, but he does seem less amiable than Jeb.

    Is there a compound German word for “sullenly jovial”?

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  29. Be a Hickservative.

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    The really 'Willy Stark' (Huey Long) was even better. I have always wondered about that old story where he was supposedly shot by some random dentist--or was it by his own bodyguards?
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  30. @Anonymous
    Hostile might not be the best word, but he does seem less amiable than Jeb.

    W. had a chip on his shoulder. Remember when he flipped out on the reporter for asking Chirac a question in French (at a press conference in France)? Jeb probably wouldn’t do that.

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  31. @Glossy
    "Jeb strikes me as an amiable second rater relative to his older brother, a hostile third rater.

    I hate W's politics - in a just world he would be tried for war crimes - but I never thought of him as hostile personality-wise. All the Bushes have pleasant, likable personalities.

    Jeb does not strike me as amiable. Give him some time in office and he’ll go over to the dark side.

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    It seems to me that Jeb! kinda knows he is a fraud, not very intelligent and so reliant on family connections, which is why he gets defensive about a lot of issues....
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  32. Two more polls suggest Trump is still in the lead. One of the polls actually shows a moderate increase in Trump support.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/10/donald_trump_post_debate_polls_trump_s_lead_grows_after_fox_news_debate.html

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  33. I bet “Out in the West Texas town of El Paso, I fell in love with a Mexican girl” by Marty Robbins is Jeb Bush’s favorite song of all time.

    If Marty Robbins were alive today, he would favor amnesty and open borders. Almost all White guys who have a fetish for Mexican/Latin American women favor amnesty and open borders because they think with their penis rather than with their brain.

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    I don't know much about Marty Robbins personally, though I think he might have been part injun. That song is sung from the perspective of a fictitious character, not Marty himself, and his infatuation doesn't end well.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Maybe the Beach Boys' "Mexican Girl" is Jeb's favorite:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvjPh8Ytz5o
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  34. @MKP
    I'm a rather cynical type, even for the Steve-o-Sphere ... but I think the rough outlines of a way forward could conceivably be starting to form.

    (1) Trump continues to get headlines, and continues to hammer the immigration issue. More importantly, he specifically mentions the immigration issue in the context of depressed wages and lower standards of living. He's already two-thirds of the way there (mentioned being a "jobs President" and mentioned the problems cause by illegal immigration); he just needs to combine the themes.

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says "they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages."

    (2) As we get further into the winter and towards the spring, Trump keeps a strong following. But he takes some knocks, makes some mistakes, and the GOP establishment coalesces around one of the establishment figures. It would be helpful if it were Jeb, the most useless clown of the whole bunch.

    (3) Trump runs third party. He takes it seriously, and hones his delivery and skills. Even when it becomes clear - as we get into next summer - that he's not going to win, he continues to buy ads and continues to talk about immigration. He makes specific promises as to what he would do - no amnesty, no more H1B visas, fewer guest college students, serious border security.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. "The new America is going to look different." She goes anti-white male and appeals to the "emerging majority," etc.

    (5) Jeb Bush is caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, his entire schtick is based upon being the Republican who can appeal to Latinos - "look at my beautiful wife!" On the other hand, he knows he has to bring Trump voters into the fold. He tries to do both and fails - Trump voters aren't convinced, anti-white-male types aren't going to vote for him anyway.

    (6) Hillary wins in a fairly decisive victory. She gets (say) 47 percent, Jeb gets 38 percent, Trump gets 11 percent, with 4 percent going protest / small-party / etc.

    (7) The day after the election, the GOP leadership - the true leadership, highest ranking members of the House and Senate and their top staffers, highest levels of power in the RNC, big-money legacy types - wake up furious at the white GOP base. "Don't they know they just gave us Hillary! Those idiots! Grrrr!!"

    (8) The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future. They have only one reasonable conclusion: they have to become an anti-immigration party. While it's not a guarantee of success, at least there is a path: they can try to go populist, go after the working-class and middle-class white votes, go after the black voters angry about no employment prospects and horrible wages, and become a nationalist "America first" party. Not because it's the right thing to do (which they don't care about), but because they realize they have to choose between the mega-donors and the average voter on the street. While they've been able to suck up to the donors and fool the voters for the past 30 years, Trump proves it won't be so easy anymore. "

    What do you think?

    You’re confusing GOP elite members’ self-interest with party success, rather than what’s actually good for them as individuals. They succeed if they keep getting hired as consultants, as pontificators at think tanks, as party staffers, and hold onto elective office in a few solid Red fiefdoms that would choke rather than elect a Democrat. The current ideological configuration of the Republican Party works beautifully for them, because it has placed them at the top of the heap. A new realignment of the GOP’s values would mean (for most of them) their displacement, which is why guys like Krauthammer are so personally enraged by Trump’s candidacy.

    To illustrate from across the pond, look at how David Cameron and his allies were so staunchly opposed to the exit of leftist Scotland from the UK, even though objectively it would have been great for the Conservative Party. Yes, great for the Tories …. but absolutely terrible for Cameron and his cronies, since in a UK without Scotland, Cameron would make no sense as a national party leader. Both the Labour and Conservative parties would have moved rightward to fill up the ideological vacuum caused by Scotland’s exit, but it’s much harder for individual politicians to make that swing and survive voter scrutiny.

    This is why political realignments are difficult to achieve artificially. Most political realignments, like the Reagan Revolution or Obama’s landslide victories, are more or less passively riding social forces that were operating naturally. Reagan essentially ran out the Goldwater coalition, which by 1980 was robust enough (through Boomers and late Silents coming of age) to achieve what it could not in 1964; Obama’s coalition is just McGovern’s, fattened up by gentrification and the 1965 Immigration Act.

    When you don’t have the luxury of riding natural population growth in constituencies that are already disposed to favor you, you’re fighting your own elected leaders, your donors, your partisan press, your think tank ideologues, just to smash the table and build a coalition that would actually win in a demographic environment vastly changed from when that original group came to power within the party.

    That’s extremely difficult to do, which is why Trump will likely fail, even if he wins the nomination. The best case scenario may be that Trump will lay the groundwork for a future realignment in 2032 or 2052, after the current party bosses and strategists have died off.

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  35. Black Lives Madder

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  36. It looks to be an early exit for Rick Perry, as he will be the first Republican to drop out of the over saturated Republican primary process. He stopped paying his campaign staff because his fundraising dried up. When a politician stops paying their campaign in the middle of a primary that’s a sign he or she is getting the hell out.

    Rick Perry has not recovered in the polls ever since Donald Trump verbally nuked him. Rick Perry will go out with a whimper.

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    So just saying Rick Perry started wearing glasses to look smarter was enough? Amazing. Direct hit on the engine room.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "Rick Perry has not recovered in the polls ever since Donald Trump verbally nuked him. Rick Perry will go out with a whimper."

    Those glasses sunk him from the beginning, like a dumb jock who thinks others will think he's intelligent if he wears glasses. Plus they made him look more like Rick Fairy.
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  37. @Anonymous
    Beneath Jeb Bush's mild-mannered, unassuming demeanor is the hardest of men, who knows the screams of 20,000 as their blood flows knee-high for Huitzilopochtli.

    I think this is a very obscure Hitchhiker’s Guide reference…

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    No. Huitzilopochtli was the supreme god of the old Aztec pantheon. Hence the reference to human sacrifice.
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  38. @advancedatheist
    You have to admit that the Bushes have stuck to their Long Game of uniting the U.S. with Mexico. This shows a longer attention span than we normally see in generally mediocre white people.

    Old-school WASPs, as whom the Bushes would qualify, knew how to think long-term. Doesn’t mean it’s in the interests of the country.

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  39. Jeb strikes me as an amiable second rater relative to his older brother, a hostile third rater.

    From George HW to George W and JEB: a portrait of generational decline in action

    Comparing George HW to his sons, JEB in particular, puts me in mind of something.Ever see the original, 1973 film version of The Wicker Man, Steve? The film’s premise is that a Victorian nobleman, Lord Summerisle, created a pagan nature cult on an island in the Hebrides.Of course, he didn’t actually believe in it.It was simply a way to get the islanders to accept his new crops.

    Lord Summerisle’s grandson, though, does believe in all the mumbo-jumbo that his grandfather invented….

    So, from Bush I and NAFTA to JEB and his actual worship of all things Hispanic….

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  40. The Bush family has been laid out for all to see in Russ Baker’s book ‘Family of Secrets’. They’re pretty much something of a multi-generational influence peddling crime family.

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  41. Similarly, GWB came to office in 2001 with as a very high priority negotiating an immigration deal with the new PAN government of Mexico.

    I’m still trying to figure out how this “negotiation” would go since contemporary news reports never mentioned what concessions the USA was seeking in return for radically altering our official policy. It was as if it had never occurred to them that “negotiations” are about two (or more) parties acting in self-interest.

    Then when the New Improved CIR came along, “negotiations with Mexico” were inexplicably never even mentioned, nor did the MSM note or question why Charles Schumer was now standing in for the Mexican president. Pravda would be proud.

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  42. which is why guys like Krauthammer are so personally enraged by Trump’s candidacy

    It’s been very entertaining watching the Fox All-Stars fulminate over Trump. I can’t recall ever seeing them as outraged about anything. As Jonah Goldberg mocked him the other night, spittle appeared to be flying out of his mouth.

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    Appears GOP Inc., media wing, is very upset that the old playbook is not working. Losing every popular vote since Reagan went home with the exceptions of Kerry and Dukakis will do that to a base. We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.At some point the populace expects you to act on what you promised. Add in exploding deficits, demographics, employment and wages and the GOP base is not going to allow this immigration idiocy to persist. At a loss why the GOP fights so hard against simply being the "White Party". It's reality; embrace it. Instead we get Huckabee's crazy God talk, Rubio looking to invade another ME country and many babbling about the wonder of free trade.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch,and he is echoing and cozying up to Trump. The long game is co-opting Trump's themes and perhaps a nod from The Donald rather than a 3rd party run. But so far Cruz has not caught fire.
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  43. @Jefferson
    It looks to be an early exit for Rick Perry, as he will be the first Republican to drop out of the over saturated Republican primary process. He stopped paying his campaign staff because his fundraising dried up. When a politician stops paying their campaign in the middle of a primary that's a sign he or she is getting the hell out.

    Rick Perry has not recovered in the polls ever since Donald Trump verbally nuked him. Rick Perry will go out with a whimper.

    So just saying Rick Perry started wearing glasses to look smarter was enough? Amazing. Direct hit on the engine room.

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  44. @Bugg
    "It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! For f__k' s sake, I was governor of Florida!Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! "

    I’ve heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen

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    I’ve heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen
     
    JEB is far too uxorious to be Michael.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Pretty good except for Jeb. If there was ever a "Michael" in Barbara's womb he must have miscarried.
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  45. Off-topic:

    Looks as though Bernie Sanders is surrendering:

    After Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was interrupted for a second time by Black Lives Matter activists over the weekend, the democratic socialist senator from Vermont released a racial justice platform, hired a racial justice activist to be his national press secretary and then told a overflow crowd of 19,000 supporters that “when we stand together, when we say that enough is enough, this country belongs to all of us.”

    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/10/black_lives_matter_is_shaking_up_the_bernie_sanders_campaign_how_hes_taking_the_critique_seriously/

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    it is sad that you consider it surrender for a politician to actually offer a meaningful response to an issue rather than just offering meaningless platitudes and talking points.
    , @Clyde

    introduced to Symone Sanders, the campaign’s new national press secretary, as she introduced him to the crowd.
     
    So Bernie got shook down to hire a black national press secretary. Black jobs matter because its all about gettin' paid!
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  46. Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without “going over” to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one’s own country if not downright traitorous.

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    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without “going over” to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one’s own country if not downright traitorous.
     
    There's a bit in one of Ian Fleming's James Bond novels where we are told that M doesn't trust an Englishman who is completely bilingual....
    , @advancedatheist
    Jim Webb speaks Vietnamese. But he still identifies with America's Scots-Irish.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without “going over” to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one’s own country if not downright traitorous.

     

    Look at all those Founding Fathers who sold out to Rome and Athens.
    , @Romanian
    Interesting question. I was an apartment rat who watched TV all day and spoke English as well as my native tongue by the time I started school, so I practically grew up bilingual. I don't see a contradiction in my being an ardent Anglophile as well as a Nationalist, recognizing my roots, attachments, affinities and a deep enlightened self-interest regarding the welfare of my community and its posterity. In the past, many small countries have found their leaders' undoubtedly genuine Nationalism operating side by side with immersion in a foreign High Culture (German, French, Italian, Russian, English) for credentialism and personal development. Maybe it's different when your country (the US, I mean) is a civilizational centerpiece which produces and provides a full range of cultural products. I know many small countries would be intellectually and aesthetically impoverished if they stuck only to what the National culture has produced or adapted (translated etc). That's why so many of us do learn quite a few foreign languages. My French has always been tortured and Romanian translations of the latest books are often cheap and hurried affairs, so I do most of my reading in the original English or in the more well regarded English translations. It also jives with what I read about the Afrikaner drive, especially by the XXth century, to enrich (no irony) their culture by translating as many things as possible into Afrikaans (including scientific tracts), creating more and more original works, and generally turning the language from a folk mix into a serious and multilaterally developed medium for the population's development. The route to development was taking them through automatic bilingualism or trilingualism for education (Hendrik Verwoerd studied in Germany for some time, for instance).
    , @Foreign Expert
    Re: learning foreign languages.
    In most countries the elites have to learn English, but it doesn't seem to influence their loyalty.
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  47. Depressing article about the immigration reform split in the Senate GOP:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/immigration-gop-rift-mandatory-minimum-senate-cruz-121231.html?hp=t1_r

    The worst part is the momentum from the recent spate of deported aliens killing people is being used to push a worthless rule that would impose a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years for illegal reentry after a prior deportation.

    This would quickly overwhelm our already very expensive federal prison system, and likely not be enforced in practice, with the illegals subject to it taking pleas.

    I think our top semi-realistic priorities should be (1) ending the diversity visa, which brings in tens of thousands of unskilled Africans who then start chain-migrating their extended families, and switching to H1B’s to cut back on the pressure from big business and divide them and the rest of the open borders lobby (2) finish construction of the authorized portions of the border fence and then build more.

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    I agree, we need to end the Greencard lottery. None of the candidates ever mention this program which George H. Bush started in 1990 to increase immigration into America from "diverse" places like Africa. We should add an English requirement for all Green card applications, and increase the application fees to $25,000.

    Also need to charge firms a $50,000 fee for every H1b visa holder they hire and stop allowing H1b visa holders to bring over their families.

    Trump would be a good candidate to attack these programs, his rhetoric would be useful to highlight how we are giving away green cards when we should at least be charging high fees to offset the increased costs of allowing immigrants into America to take our jobs.
    , @Clyde
    I don't know if it is mandatory but there already is a minimum sentence of 2 years for illegal reentry after a prior deportation. That law is on the books and rarely prosecuted.


    Penalties for Illegal Reentry

    Under relevant federal statutes, an alien who commits illegal reentry as described above will be punished with:

    A fine; or

    Imprisonment for not more than two years; or

    Both fine and imprisonment.

    - See more at: http://immigration.findlaw.com/deportation-removal/illegal-reentry-into-the-u-s-after-removal-crime-and-punishment.html#sthash.DAm1gK6i.dpuf
     
    Unfortunately illegal entry is merely a misdemeanor if you have never been deported. This should have been made a felony years ago and prosecuted.
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  48. @Harry Baldwin
    which is why guys like Krauthammer are so personally enraged by Trump’s candidacy

    It's been very entertaining watching the Fox All-Stars fulminate over Trump. I can't recall ever seeing them as outraged about anything. As Jonah Goldberg mocked him the other night, spittle appeared to be flying out of his mouth.

    Appears GOP Inc., media wing, is very upset that the old playbook is not working. Losing every popular vote since Reagan went home with the exceptions of Kerry and Dukakis will do that to a base. We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.At some point the populace expects you to act on what you promised. Add in exploding deficits, demographics, employment and wages and the GOP base is not going to allow this immigration idiocy to persist. At a loss why the GOP fights so hard against simply being the “White Party”. It’s reality; embrace it. Instead we get Huckabee’s crazy God talk, Rubio looking to invade another ME country and many babbling about the wonder of free trade.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch,and he is echoing and cozying up to Trump. The long game is co-opting Trump’s themes and perhaps a nod from The Donald rather than a 3rd party run. But so far Cruz has not caught fire.

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    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch,and he is echoing and cozying up to Trump. The long game is co-opting Trump’s themes and perhaps a nod from The Donald rather than a 3rd party run. But so far Cruz has not caught fire.

     

    OK, I will. I have a strange new respect for him, on your recommendation. Seriously, I had not paid any attention to him whatsoever, but since the establishment hates him and a commenter here says he's worth watching, I will now.

    He just doesn't seem....presidential. Yes, I know, that's stupid, but there's something to it.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I heard a Republican strategist on Fox Business this morning talking about Trump. He said the party has to treat him carefully, but at the same time its priority must be to protect the Republican brand. What the hell is the Republican brand? Making promises to your base you have no intention of keeping? Itching to get into Middle East wars? Turning a blind eye to our debt crisis? Envying the Democrats' "cooler" base and trying to woo away its Hispanics? Doing everything for the wealthy elite who like Democrats better anyway? Worrying more about Israel's borders than ours?
    , @Bill

    We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.
     
    Huh? The GOP, every election, campaigns on lower taxes, fewer regulations, lower taxes, free trade agreements, lower taxes, paths to citizenship, lower taxes, endless war, lower taxes, and "I'm pro-life but no litmus test on abortion." The GOP, whenever they are in power, delivers on this agenda as best they can. Maybe they are sometimes dishonest, but not overall. Their agenda is "we are going to screw you to the wall, and you are going to cheer us on." They don't even have to lie most of the time. The retard zombie army cheers them on. Because being a conservative is about tolerance, inclusion, small government, war, and not being racist. And lower taxes.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch
     
    Oh, you're trolling. Hint: was Ted Cruz invited to Erick Erickson's cuckfest? Did the assembled retards cheer and pant with excitement?
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  49. @carol
    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without "going over" to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one's own country if not downright traitorous.

    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without “going over” to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one’s own country if not downright traitorous.

    There’s a bit in one of Ian Fleming’s James Bond novels where we are told that M doesn’t trust an Englishman who is completely bilingual….

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  50. @njguy73
    I've heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen

    I’ve heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen

    JEB is far too uxorious to be Michael.

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    I learned a new word today. Uxorious. Thanks. Totally fits.
    , @njguy73
    Jeb was the one who, when the Bush boys were growing up, was considered the smartest.
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  51. The illegals who come back to the USA after being deported already face prison time before their 2nd deportation for their illegal reentry. Not five years usually, but prison plus deportation is already a pretty strong incentive to not reenter after deportation.

    The men who do this anyway are often like the SF murderer: drunks and addicts with very low time orientation. A five-year sentence is not a deterrent for these people, they became addicts precisely because they don’t behave rationally and think about the future.

    It just gives them time to live on the minimum security prison dole and learn English at our expenses. For the minority of dangerous ones, prosecutors can already stack a bunch of charges on them on top of the illegal reentry charge. A little meth and an unlicensed gun in the car, plus a prior record, is more than sufficient for the Feds to put a prior deportee away for 5-10 years. There is simply no need to impose a mandatory minimum. And the issue with the SF murderer was sanctuary cities. I can see a bill to deny federal funding to sanctuary cities as realistic, plus if anything it will save the federal government money because cities like SF will simply lose the money rather than repeal their sanctuary law. The debate in the less liberal cities like San Jose will cause a nice intra-left fight between La Raza types on one side and municipal unions on the other.

    Also depressing about the modern GOP is that they are currently making their top two targets among federal programs Planned Parenthood and Import-Export Bank. The first is, as Lion of the Blogosphere says, probably the single best use of federal funds. The second is a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry. There is a reason why Europe, Japan, Brazil, etc all do this: it is vital for national security, plus a strong aerospace industry has many other positive externalities.

    For the life of me, I can’t see why the GOP doesn’t cut HUD funding in half and give Obama the choice of either accepting the one half funding, or seeing the department shut down. Maybe section 8 landlords are now a big enough constituency they can veto the GOP doing this.

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    "a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry"

    This is a little OT, but there's a piece on this site by Eamonn Fingleton, a former Financial Times editor who worked in Japan for (IIRC) 27 years.

    http://www.unz.com/efingleton/nikkeis-ft-takeover/

    His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry.

    http://www.fingleton.net/boeing-goes-to-pieces/

    "Although the details of U.S.-Japan aerospace deals are rarely disclosed, it is clear that a key dynamic is that, in return for transfers of American technology and manufacturing knowhow, the Japanese low-ball their prices in supplying an ever widening and more sophisticated array of components and materials. In many cases, Japan’s state-controlled airlines further sweeten the pot by paying top dollar for U.S. airframes and jet engines. All this boosts the American industry’s short term profits. In the long term, of course, the current crop of top executives will have long retired – and in the meantime they are crying all the way to the bank.

    For the Japanese the seemingly steep upfront costs are a steal given the enormous amount of learning-by-doing that would otherwise be required to reinvent American knowhow and production technology. As for the American national interest, the most obvious consequence is an endless stream of layoffs of American blue-collar workers. Less obviously but equally debilitating, the U.S. aerospace industry’s dependence on Japanese and other foreign suppliers has greatly exacerbated U.S. trade imbalances. By extension the U.S. Treasury has become ever more dependent on East Asia, not least Japan, to fund the trade deficits."

    , @Bill

    For the life of me, I can’t see why the GOP doesn’t cut HUD funding in half and give Obama the choice of either accepting the one half funding, or seeing the department shut down.
     
    Because Obama would respond by 1) vetoing all spending bills, and 2) accusing the GOP of shutting down the government. This kind of thing has happened now several times in the last couple of decades. It always works for the Democrats. So, there has to be a plan for dealing with that problem. The internet was supposed to save them from this, but that hasn't worked out, and they have no other plan.

    There's also the problem that the GOP is in favor of HUD, multiculturalism, immigration, Black Lives Matter, and the whole Cultural Marxist project. So, that's probably the first thing you'd want to work on. I mean, that is, if you weren't just a silly, establishment troll.

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  52. How Jeb delivered huge amounts of cash to his brother, George:

    “As [Governor] Jeb Bush oversaw the State Board of Administration (SBA) that runs Florida’s massive public pension system, the state shifted billions of dollars into higher-risk, higher-fee alternative investments, benefiting the same sector of the investment industry he would work in upon leaving office. Many of those state deals delivered returns that fell short of projections. Roughly 20 percent of that system’s 53 private investment deals during Bush’s governorship went to companies that employed his brother’s Pioneers. Those financial firms, in turn, delivered more than $5 million of campaign cash to George W. Bush, the Republican National Committee and Jeb Bush’s Republican Party of Florida. (Click here to see the full list of Bush Pioneers whose firms received Florida pension investments from Jeb Bush’s administration).”

    http://www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bushs-administration-steered-florida-pension-money-george-w-bushs-fundraisers-1880592

    Jeb’s reward of a no show job:
    “A majority of this paper was sold to SBA by Lehman Brothers . Bush, as the state’s top elected official, served on a three-member board that oversaw the SBA until he retired as governor in January. In August, Bush was hired as a consultant to the bank.”

    http://www.forbes.com/2007/11/30/florida-bush-lehman-biz-beltway-cx_mb_1130florida.html

    Jeb moves on to Barclay’s Bank:

    “Not much is known about what Bush actually did for Lehman—the firm that went belly-up in 2008 and sparked the wider financial crisis, and Barclays, the bank that purchased Lehman out of bankruptcy and continues to work out of its midtown Manhattan headquarters. He began working for the former after his term as Florida governor ended in 2007, and continued working for the latter until the end of 2014, when he decided to run for president.

    The two banks were his biggest sources of income in recent years: Bush earned more than $14 million working for Lehman and then Barclays, which based on my understanding of simple math accounted for nearly half of the $29 million he made after he left government. Yet in Tuesday’s disclosure, and even in many of his public comments, Bush has downplayed his work for the two banks.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/04/charlie-gasparino-calls-out-jeb-on-lehman-millions/

    While Jeb was at Barclays, Barclays bank was charged with the following violations:

    Gold price fixing, energy price fixing, dark pool fraud, iSDA fixing, helping Iran avoid US sanctions, and money laundering on a huge scale. In other words, Barclays is a criminal organization

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    Thanks for the links. The Lehman job was a bribe, as are most of those jobs-for-pols.
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  53. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:

    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen, a sex tape. I don’t know.

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state and get rid of the artificial borders of states. In fact Trump sort of broached this when he talked about the insurance companies going state by state.

    The US labor market is completely screwed up and inefficient.

    Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs. They operate dangerous equipment and construct scaffolding in a slipshod manner. I walked underneath one the other day, where a guy was barking orders at us pedestrians in some incomprehensible language (not Spanish, I don’t even know what it was). We could have been killed, but we kept walking. One day someone will get killed and everyone will jump around for two days and then things will go back to normal.

    I thought, “there must be out of work white (and black) guys in Tennessee or Alabama or New Hampshire who can do these jobs better than these guys who can’t even speak English.” But they are languishing in their states, living on benefits. An efficient native labor market would pay for these guys to come to the Big City, house them, feed them, pay them, etc.

    In the fracking industry guys live on site in company housing and everything is paid for. It’s bleak and they get a little lonely being without family and social contacts, but the work gets done – by Americans. But that’s because guys flock to these places. No one is paying for them to go there. We should pay them to go there – and all over the country where there are jobs to be done.

    But that’s not the way capitalism works.

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    Possibly Mixtec or Mayan from southern Mexico or the Central American countries. The Los Angeles school district has had to scramble in the last few years finding translators to cope with swarms of children from Mexico and Central America who don't speak Spanish.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state…
     
    Democratic socialists prefer immigrants. And for a good reason: their support for the state is more absolute.

    Unlike the fickle white man.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    Around here, it's Guatemalans, mostly Mam and Quanjobal speakers.
    , @Bill

    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen
     
    Yeah, something will just happen. And if you think the something didn't "just happen," you will get to be a conspiracy theorist. And if you point out the Bushies lifelong involvement with the kind of people whose entire purpose in life is to make things just happen, you will be a nutcase.
    , @guest
    "But that’s not the way capitalism works."

    That's exactly the way capitalism works, and we do pay them to go there. They're called wages.
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  54. Why don’t you compare 43 and Jeb to their talented second cousin, George Herbert Walker IV?

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    Why don’t you compare 43 and Jeb to their talented second cousin, George Herbert Walker IV?

     

    Any relation to Scott?
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  55. @njguy73
    I've heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen

    Pretty good except for Jeb. If there was ever a “Michael” in Barbara’s womb he must have miscarried.

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    That's a good point. Why are the Bush children dumb? H.W. isn't dumb. Barbara doesn't strike me as especially dumb. It's weird. Is Barbara an alcoholic?
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  56. @MKP
    I'm a rather cynical type, even for the Steve-o-Sphere ... but I think the rough outlines of a way forward could conceivably be starting to form.

    (1) Trump continues to get headlines, and continues to hammer the immigration issue. More importantly, he specifically mentions the immigration issue in the context of depressed wages and lower standards of living. He's already two-thirds of the way there (mentioned being a "jobs President" and mentioned the problems cause by illegal immigration); he just needs to combine the themes.

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says "they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages."

    (2) As we get further into the winter and towards the spring, Trump keeps a strong following. But he takes some knocks, makes some mistakes, and the GOP establishment coalesces around one of the establishment figures. It would be helpful if it were Jeb, the most useless clown of the whole bunch.

    (3) Trump runs third party. He takes it seriously, and hones his delivery and skills. Even when it becomes clear - as we get into next summer - that he's not going to win, he continues to buy ads and continues to talk about immigration. He makes specific promises as to what he would do - no amnesty, no more H1B visas, fewer guest college students, serious border security.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. "The new America is going to look different." She goes anti-white male and appeals to the "emerging majority," etc.

    (5) Jeb Bush is caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, his entire schtick is based upon being the Republican who can appeal to Latinos - "look at my beautiful wife!" On the other hand, he knows he has to bring Trump voters into the fold. He tries to do both and fails - Trump voters aren't convinced, anti-white-male types aren't going to vote for him anyway.

    (6) Hillary wins in a fairly decisive victory. She gets (say) 47 percent, Jeb gets 38 percent, Trump gets 11 percent, with 4 percent going protest / small-party / etc.

    (7) The day after the election, the GOP leadership - the true leadership, highest ranking members of the House and Senate and their top staffers, highest levels of power in the RNC, big-money legacy types - wake up furious at the white GOP base. "Don't they know they just gave us Hillary! Those idiots! Grrrr!!"

    (8) The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future. They have only one reasonable conclusion: they have to become an anti-immigration party. While it's not a guarantee of success, at least there is a path: they can try to go populist, go after the working-class and middle-class white votes, go after the black voters angry about no employment prospects and horrible wages, and become a nationalist "America first" party. Not because it's the right thing to do (which they don't care about), but because they realize they have to choose between the mega-donors and the average voter on the street. While they've been able to suck up to the donors and fool the voters for the past 30 years, Trump proves it won't be so easy anymore. "

    What do you think?

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says “they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages.”

    Has Trump brought this aspect up yet? Santorum and Walker already have.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. “The new America is going to look different.” She goes anti-white male and appeals to the “emerging majority,” etc.

    Turn in your cynic’s card. You think the High Queen of Triangulation will go full-bore ideological and commit political suicide?

    The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future.

    Yea, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. You’re not a cynic, you’re a fantasist.

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    Yea, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. You’re not a cynic, you’re a fantasist.
     
    Ha. Alright, fair enough. I mean, I did say "could conceivably work" or something to that effect.

    But, OK, maybe you're right and it could NEVER happen. So ... down with the ship, I guess? Unless you have a better plan?
    , @Nico


    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. “The new America is going to look different.” She goes anti-white male and appeals to the “emerging majority,” etc.
     
    Turn in your cynic’s card. You think the High Queen of Triangulation will go full-bore ideological and commit political suicide?
     
    But why would that be political suicide? It was her still beloved hubby who proposed that our greatest accomplishment be to exist "without a dominant Europen culture." (Obviously that depends on what your definition of "our" is, but you get the point.)

    I think you underestimate the at best blindness, at worst ill intentions, of a great majority of white Democratic voters.
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  57. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:
    @Bugg
    Appears GOP Inc., media wing, is very upset that the old playbook is not working. Losing every popular vote since Reagan went home with the exceptions of Kerry and Dukakis will do that to a base. We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.At some point the populace expects you to act on what you promised. Add in exploding deficits, demographics, employment and wages and the GOP base is not going to allow this immigration idiocy to persist. At a loss why the GOP fights so hard against simply being the "White Party". It's reality; embrace it. Instead we get Huckabee's crazy God talk, Rubio looking to invade another ME country and many babbling about the wonder of free trade.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch,and he is echoing and cozying up to Trump. The long game is co-opting Trump's themes and perhaps a nod from The Donald rather than a 3rd party run. But so far Cruz has not caught fire.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch,and he is echoing and cozying up to Trump. The long game is co-opting Trump’s themes and perhaps a nod from The Donald rather than a 3rd party run. But so far Cruz has not caught fire.

    OK, I will. I have a strange new respect for him, on your recommendation. Seriously, I had not paid any attention to him whatsoever, but since the establishment hates him and a commenter here says he’s worth watching, I will now.

    He just doesn’t seem….presidential. Yes, I know, that’s stupid, but there’s something to it.

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  58. advancedatheist [AKA "RedneckCryonicist"] says:
    @carol
    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without "going over" to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one's own country if not downright traitorous.

    Jim Webb speaks Vietnamese. But he still identifies with America’s Scots-Irish.

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  59. @carol
    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without "going over" to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one's own country if not downright traitorous.

    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without “going over” to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one’s own country if not downright traitorous.

    Look at all those Founding Fathers who sold out to Rome and Athens.

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  60. @jrm
    Why don't you compare 43 and Jeb to their talented second cousin, George Herbert Walker IV?

    Why don’t you compare 43 and Jeb to their talented second cousin, George Herbert Walker IV?

    Any relation to Scott?

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  61. @Bugg
    Appears GOP Inc., media wing, is very upset that the old playbook is not working. Losing every popular vote since Reagan went home with the exceptions of Kerry and Dukakis will do that to a base. We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.At some point the populace expects you to act on what you promised. Add in exploding deficits, demographics, employment and wages and the GOP base is not going to allow this immigration idiocy to persist. At a loss why the GOP fights so hard against simply being the "White Party". It's reality; embrace it. Instead we get Huckabee's crazy God talk, Rubio looking to invade another ME country and many babbling about the wonder of free trade.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch,and he is echoing and cozying up to Trump. The long game is co-opting Trump's themes and perhaps a nod from The Donald rather than a 3rd party run. But so far Cruz has not caught fire.

    I heard a Republican strategist on Fox Business this morning talking about Trump. He said the party has to treat him carefully, but at the same time its priority must be to protect the Republican brand. What the hell is the Republican brand? Making promises to your base you have no intention of keeping? Itching to get into Middle East wars? Turning a blind eye to our debt crisis? Envying the Democrats’ “cooler” base and trying to woo away its Hispanics? Doing everything for the wealthy elite who like Democrats better anyway? Worrying more about Israel’s borders than ours?

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    "He said the party has to treat (Trump) carefully, but at the same time its priority must be to protect the Republican brand."

    The Republican brand is in great need of protection, it is under siege from an enraged and determined enemy who will stop at nothing to see it destroyed: the Republican voter.
    , @Seamus Padraig

    What the hell is the Republican brand? Making promises to your base you have no intention of keeping? Itching to get into Middle East wars? Turning a blind eye to our debt crisis? Envying the Democrats’ “cooler” base and trying to woo away its Hispanics? Doing everything for the wealthy elite who like Democrats better anyway? Worrying more about Israel’s borders than ours?
     
    Hey, you catch on fast!
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  62. @Jefferson
    It looks to be an early exit for Rick Perry, as he will be the first Republican to drop out of the over saturated Republican primary process. He stopped paying his campaign staff because his fundraising dried up. When a politician stops paying their campaign in the middle of a primary that's a sign he or she is getting the hell out.

    Rick Perry has not recovered in the polls ever since Donald Trump verbally nuked him. Rick Perry will go out with a whimper.

    “Rick Perry has not recovered in the polls ever since Donald Trump verbally nuked him. Rick Perry will go out with a whimper.”

    Those glasses sunk him from the beginning, like a dumb jock who thinks others will think he’s intelligent if he wears glasses. Plus they made him look more like Rick Fairy.

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  63. The bush es are a Bush/Walker alliance. The Walkers have the golden touch. They make the money. The Bushes are reliable caretakers. Whatever the Walkers give them to manage will not be ruined and may go up in value a bit. Any attempt by the Walkers to enter politics have been disasters. One Walker got so drunk before speeches that he was coherent. The Bushes can organize and win most elections.

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    Any attempt by the Walkers to enter politics have been disasters. One Walker got so drunk before speeches that he was coherent.
     
    Should have drunk more then.
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  64. @Reg Cæsar

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says “they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages.”

     

    Has Trump brought this aspect up yet? Santorum and Walker already have.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. “The new America is going to look different.” She goes anti-white male and appeals to the “emerging majority,” etc.
     
    Turn in your cynic's card. You think the High Queen of Triangulation will go full-bore ideological and commit political suicide?

    The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future.
     
    Yea, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. You're not a cynic, you're a fantasist.

    Yea, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. You’re not a cynic, you’re a fantasist.

    Ha. Alright, fair enough. I mean, I did say “could conceivably work” or something to that effect.

    But, OK, maybe you’re right and it could NEVER happen. So … down with the ship, I guess? Unless you have a better plan?

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    The presidency is less important than the Congress. We need both houses to send a bill to the president's desk. All we need for the president is to sign it. Just as WGH did in 1921.

    Walker, Cruz, Santorum, and maybe a couple of the others would sign it. Jeb would not. Kasich, Pataki, Christie, Rubio? You tell me…

    Your "plan" depends on Hillary being stupid enough to throw away the white vote, then winning the election anyway, then the wrong kind of Republican finally wising up.
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  65. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:

    It’s good that we are paying attention to Mexican immigration, and shady dealings with Mexican big business.

    But don’t let that suck all the oxygen out of the Bush Family’s dealings with Saudi Arabia. Before that, George Bush ran a failing oil company in the Gulf. I read a surprisingly good article about it in some business mag, maybe Forbes, which hinted it was a thinly-veiled CIA op. I have little doubt it was. This all deserves scrutiny as well.

    And don’t forget about the ethnic cleansing of Americans from tech jobs, and the mess that is India. As the country (meaning India) sinks further into the muck, more of their “best and brightest” will be coming here, with Tom Friedman’s blessing. The world gets flatter by the day!

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  66. @Lot
    Depressing article about the immigration reform split in the Senate GOP:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/immigration-gop-rift-mandatory-minimum-senate-cruz-121231.html?hp=t1_r

    The worst part is the momentum from the recent spate of deported aliens killing people is being used to push a worthless rule that would impose a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years for illegal reentry after a prior deportation.

    This would quickly overwhelm our already very expensive federal prison system, and likely not be enforced in practice, with the illegals subject to it taking pleas.

    I think our top semi-realistic priorities should be (1) ending the diversity visa, which brings in tens of thousands of unskilled Africans who then start chain-migrating their extended families, and switching to H1B's to cut back on the pressure from big business and divide them and the rest of the open borders lobby (2) finish construction of the authorized portions of the border fence and then build more.

    I agree, we need to end the Greencard lottery. None of the candidates ever mention this program which George H. Bush started in 1990 to increase immigration into America from “diverse” places like Africa. We should add an English requirement for all Green card applications, and increase the application fees to $25,000.

    Also need to charge firms a $50,000 fee for every H1b visa holder they hire and stop allowing H1b visa holders to bring over their families.

    Trump would be a good candidate to attack these programs, his rhetoric would be useful to highlight how we are giving away green cards when we should at least be charging high fees to offset the increased costs of allowing immigrants into America to take our jobs.

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  67. Another great article Steve.

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  68. @MKP

    Yea, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. You’re not a cynic, you’re a fantasist.
     
    Ha. Alright, fair enough. I mean, I did say "could conceivably work" or something to that effect.

    But, OK, maybe you're right and it could NEVER happen. So ... down with the ship, I guess? Unless you have a better plan?

    The presidency is less important than the Congress. We need both houses to send a bill to the president’s desk. All we need for the president is to sign it. Just as WGH did in 1921.

    Walker, Cruz, Santorum, and maybe a couple of the others would sign it. Jeb would not. Kasich, Pataki, Christie, Rubio? You tell me…

    Your “plan” depends on Hillary being stupid enough to throw away the white vote, then winning the election anyway, then the wrong kind of Republican finally wising up.

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    Scott Walker already endorsed amnesty. I'm sorry, a "pathway to citzenship." He also once said he would support an Arizona-style ID-check law, but then reneged when he got to be Governor. Said that would be "a distraction." No way would he do anything except what his investor-owners tell him to do.

    Santorum is far enough away from the money men that he's a possibility. If it's Santorum vs. Hillary, fine, I'll vote Santorum.
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  69. @Reg Cæsar

    Beneath Jeb Bush’s mild-mannered, unassuming demeanor is the hardest of men, who knows the screams of 20,000 as their blood flows knee-high for Huitzilopochtli.

     

    Is that pronounced chutzpah ?

    Netanyahu is left-handed and Israel is south of Connecticut:

    Coincidence?

    The name literally means something like “Hummingbird(‘s) South” or “Hummingbird(‘s) Left”, yet it has commonly been translated as “Southern hummingbird”[2] or “left-handed hummingbird”.

    And he certainly demands tribute.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huitzilopochtli –The Aztec god of war.

    Note: The first image is courtesy of the “Great Lefties” blogspot.

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  70. @Reg Cæsar
    The presidency is less important than the Congress. We need both houses to send a bill to the president's desk. All we need for the president is to sign it. Just as WGH did in 1921.

    Walker, Cruz, Santorum, and maybe a couple of the others would sign it. Jeb would not. Kasich, Pataki, Christie, Rubio? You tell me…

    Your "plan" depends on Hillary being stupid enough to throw away the white vote, then winning the election anyway, then the wrong kind of Republican finally wising up.

    Scott Walker already endorsed amnesty. I’m sorry, a “pathway to citzenship.” He also once said he would support an Arizona-style ID-check law, but then reneged when he got to be Governor. Said that would be “a distraction.” No way would he do anything except what his investor-owners tell him to do.

    Santorum is far enough away from the money men that he’s a possibility. If it’s Santorum vs. Hillary, fine, I’ll vote Santorum.

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  71. @Reg Cæsar

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says “they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages.”

     

    Has Trump brought this aspect up yet? Santorum and Walker already have.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. “The new America is going to look different.” She goes anti-white male and appeals to the “emerging majority,” etc.
     
    Turn in your cynic's card. You think the High Queen of Triangulation will go full-bore ideological and commit political suicide?

    The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future.
     
    Yea, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. You're not a cynic, you're a fantasist.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. “The new America is going to look different.” She goes anti-white male and appeals to the “emerging majority,” etc.

    Turn in your cynic’s card. You think the High Queen of Triangulation will go full-bore ideological and commit political suicide?

    But why would that be political suicide? It was her still beloved hubby who proposed that our greatest accomplishment be to exist “without a dominant Europen culture.” (Obviously that depends on what your definition of “our” is, but you get the point.)

    I think you underestimate the at best blindness, at worst ill intentions, of a great majority of white Democratic voters.

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  72. I agree with others. This is a great post by Steve. Eye-opening to me, that’s for sure. (Like I needed ANOTHER reason to absolutely despise Jeb Bush).

    Additionally, the comments on this post are insightful, intelligent and thought-provoking. Well done, all.

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  73. @WhatEvvs
    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen, a sex tape. I don't know.

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state and get rid of the artificial borders of states. In fact Trump sort of broached this when he talked about the insurance companies going state by state.

    The US labor market is completely screwed up and inefficient.

    Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs. They operate dangerous equipment and construct scaffolding in a slipshod manner. I walked underneath one the other day, where a guy was barking orders at us pedestrians in some incomprehensible language (not Spanish, I don't even know what it was). We could have been killed, but we kept walking. One day someone will get killed and everyone will jump around for two days and then things will go back to normal.

    I thought, "there must be out of work white (and black) guys in Tennessee or Alabama or New Hampshire who can do these jobs better than these guys who can't even speak English." But they are languishing in their states, living on benefits. An efficient native labor market would pay for these guys to come to the Big City, house them, feed them, pay them, etc.

    In the fracking industry guys live on site in company housing and everything is paid for. It's bleak and they get a little lonely being without family and social contacts, but the work gets done - by Americans. But that's because guys flock to these places. No one is paying for them to go there. We should pay them to go there - and all over the country where there are jobs to be done.

    But that's not the way capitalism works.

    Possibly Mixtec or Mayan from southern Mexico or the Central American countries. The Los Angeles school district has had to scramble in the last few years finding translators to cope with swarms of children from Mexico and Central America who don’t speak Spanish.

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    No, he was big and black. And incomprehensible. I didn't even know what he was doing at first, until I figured out he was warning people not to walk in a dangerous area.

    Not Wolof. More meaty. More like a US black, but speaking some lingo.
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  74. @syonredux

    I’ve heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen
     
    JEB is far too uxorious to be Michael.

    I learned a new word today. Uxorious. Thanks. Totally fits.

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  75. @Harry Baldwin
    I heard a Republican strategist on Fox Business this morning talking about Trump. He said the party has to treat him carefully, but at the same time its priority must be to protect the Republican brand. What the hell is the Republican brand? Making promises to your base you have no intention of keeping? Itching to get into Middle East wars? Turning a blind eye to our debt crisis? Envying the Democrats' "cooler" base and trying to woo away its Hispanics? Doing everything for the wealthy elite who like Democrats better anyway? Worrying more about Israel's borders than ours?

    “He said the party has to treat (Trump) carefully, but at the same time its priority must be to protect the Republican brand.”

    The Republican brand is in great need of protection, it is under siege from an enraged and determined enemy who will stop at nothing to see it destroyed: the Republican voter.

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  76. Slightly OT but this reminds me of a recent incident. A cute Chinese girl knocked on my door one day in the spring. She worked for a charity called children.org or something. She was trying to solicit donations for poor children in various countries. It was one of those deals where you get letters and photos supposedly of the foreign child to simulate a relationship between donor and recipient. Anyway the girl was charming and almost had me agree to donate $30/month to a Mexican child. But then I thought about it.

    Carlos Slim is the wealthiest man on earth (at least last time I checked). He makes his wealth from owning monopolies that charge Mexicans more than necessary. Slim alone could afford to donate $30/month to every poor Mexican child for years. But what does he do instead? He owns the NYT which serves to brainwash Americans into accepting Mexico’s poor so that Mexico’s rich don’t have to deal with them. And here this charity is making me feel morally obligated to give up almost 2% of my after tax income to help a stranger in Mexico.

    I politely declined and wished the young lady a nice day.

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    That's got nothing on "Guardians of Israel", a charity (charity being, in this case, a nice word for racket) run by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They encourage Christians in America to donate money to help poor Jews in Israel. Really? Are there that many destitute Jews in Israel? Their fellow Israelis are incapable of helping them? Are there no wealthy Jews anywhere else in the world who can help their own people?

    The first time I saw one of their ads on TV, I was about bowled over, not just by the oily smarminess of the ad itself, but by the over-the-top chutzpah of the whole idea.
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  77. @Lot
    The illegals who come back to the USA after being deported already face prison time before their 2nd deportation for their illegal reentry. Not five years usually, but prison plus deportation is already a pretty strong incentive to not reenter after deportation.

    The men who do this anyway are often like the SF murderer: drunks and addicts with very low time orientation. A five-year sentence is not a deterrent for these people, they became addicts precisely because they don't behave rationally and think about the future.

    It just gives them time to live on the minimum security prison dole and learn English at our expenses. For the minority of dangerous ones, prosecutors can already stack a bunch of charges on them on top of the illegal reentry charge. A little meth and an unlicensed gun in the car, plus a prior record, is more than sufficient for the Feds to put a prior deportee away for 5-10 years. There is simply no need to impose a mandatory minimum. And the issue with the SF murderer was sanctuary cities. I can see a bill to deny federal funding to sanctuary cities as realistic, plus if anything it will save the federal government money because cities like SF will simply lose the money rather than repeal their sanctuary law. The debate in the less liberal cities like San Jose will cause a nice intra-left fight between La Raza types on one side and municipal unions on the other.

    Also depressing about the modern GOP is that they are currently making their top two targets among federal programs Planned Parenthood and Import-Export Bank. The first is, as Lion of the Blogosphere says, probably the single best use of federal funds. The second is a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry. There is a reason why Europe, Japan, Brazil, etc all do this: it is vital for national security, plus a strong aerospace industry has many other positive externalities.

    For the life of me, I can't see why the GOP doesn't cut HUD funding in half and give Obama the choice of either accepting the one half funding, or seeing the department shut down. Maybe section 8 landlords are now a big enough constituency they can veto the GOP doing this.

    “a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry”

    This is a little OT, but there’s a piece on this site by Eamonn Fingleton, a former Financial Times editor who worked in Japan for (IIRC) 27 years.

    http://www.unz.com/efingleton/nikkeis-ft-takeover/

    His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry.

    http://www.fingleton.net/boeing-goes-to-pieces/

    “Although the details of U.S.-Japan aerospace deals are rarely disclosed, it is clear that a key dynamic is that, in return for transfers of American technology and manufacturing knowhow, the Japanese low-ball their prices in supplying an ever widening and more sophisticated array of components and materials. In many cases, Japan’s state-controlled airlines further sweeten the pot by paying top dollar for U.S. airframes and jet engines. All this boosts the American industry’s short term profits. In the long term, of course, the current crop of top executives will have long retired – and in the meantime they are crying all the way to the bank.

    For the Japanese the seemingly steep upfront costs are a steal given the enormous amount of learning-by-doing that would otherwise be required to reinvent American knowhow and production technology. As for the American national interest, the most obvious consequence is an endless stream of layoffs of American blue-collar workers. Less obviously but equally debilitating, the U.S. aerospace industry’s dependence on Japanese and other foreign suppliers has greatly exacerbated U.S. trade imbalances. By extension the U.S. Treasury has become ever more dependent on East Asia, not least Japan, to fund the trade deficits.”

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    His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry
    , @WhatEvvs
    "His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry"

    Japan is still the world's biggest creditor nation, and has been so for 20 years running.

    , @MarkinLA
    I read somewhere that thanks to Boeing's dealing with China where to get a sales contract China makes the fuselages for the small hop planes sold in China. China is planning to build their own plane and develop it using their own captive market. Once they get the bugs worked out they will then compete with Boeing for that market.
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  78. @Alfa158
    Possibly Mixtec or Mayan from southern Mexico or the Central American countries. The Los Angeles school district has had to scramble in the last few years finding translators to cope with swarms of children from Mexico and Central America who don't speak Spanish.

    No, he was big and black. And incomprehensible. I didn’t even know what he was doing at first, until I figured out he was warning people not to walk in a dangerous area.

    Not Wolof. More meaty. More like a US black, but speaking some lingo.

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  79. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    "a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry"

    This is a little OT, but there's a piece on this site by Eamonn Fingleton, a former Financial Times editor who worked in Japan for (IIRC) 27 years.

    http://www.unz.com/efingleton/nikkeis-ft-takeover/

    His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry.

    http://www.fingleton.net/boeing-goes-to-pieces/

    "Although the details of U.S.-Japan aerospace deals are rarely disclosed, it is clear that a key dynamic is that, in return for transfers of American technology and manufacturing knowhow, the Japanese low-ball their prices in supplying an ever widening and more sophisticated array of components and materials. In many cases, Japan’s state-controlled airlines further sweeten the pot by paying top dollar for U.S. airframes and jet engines. All this boosts the American industry’s short term profits. In the long term, of course, the current crop of top executives will have long retired – and in the meantime they are crying all the way to the bank.

    For the Japanese the seemingly steep upfront costs are a steal given the enormous amount of learning-by-doing that would otherwise be required to reinvent American knowhow and production technology. As for the American national interest, the most obvious consequence is an endless stream of layoffs of American blue-collar workers. Less obviously but equally debilitating, the U.S. aerospace industry’s dependence on Japanese and other foreign suppliers has greatly exacerbated U.S. trade imbalances. By extension the U.S. Treasury has become ever more dependent on East Asia, not least Japan, to fund the trade deficits."

    “His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry”

    Japan is still the world’s biggest creditor nation, and has been so for 20 years running.

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    Japan is still the world’s biggest creditor nation, and has been so for 20 years running.
     
    It may still be that, but most of its debt is owned by the population, which is a prolific saver. This is a much better situation that owing a debt to foreigners or, worse, owing a debt to foreigners in another currency.
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  80. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    "a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry"

    This is a little OT, but there's a piece on this site by Eamonn Fingleton, a former Financial Times editor who worked in Japan for (IIRC) 27 years.

    http://www.unz.com/efingleton/nikkeis-ft-takeover/

    His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry.

    http://www.fingleton.net/boeing-goes-to-pieces/

    "Although the details of U.S.-Japan aerospace deals are rarely disclosed, it is clear that a key dynamic is that, in return for transfers of American technology and manufacturing knowhow, the Japanese low-ball their prices in supplying an ever widening and more sophisticated array of components and materials. In many cases, Japan’s state-controlled airlines further sweeten the pot by paying top dollar for U.S. airframes and jet engines. All this boosts the American industry’s short term profits. In the long term, of course, the current crop of top executives will have long retired – and in the meantime they are crying all the way to the bank.

    For the Japanese the seemingly steep upfront costs are a steal given the enormous amount of learning-by-doing that would otherwise be required to reinvent American knowhow and production technology. As for the American national interest, the most obvious consequence is an endless stream of layoffs of American blue-collar workers. Less obviously but equally debilitating, the U.S. aerospace industry’s dependence on Japanese and other foreign suppliers has greatly exacerbated U.S. trade imbalances. By extension the U.S. Treasury has become ever more dependent on East Asia, not least Japan, to fund the trade deficits."

    His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry

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  81. Bush “opened doors” for Lehman? Does that mean he connected Lehman execs to bribable pols with leverage? If that sounds cynical maybe someone here can enlighten me on what else, if anything, constitutes opening doors.

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  82. @MKP
    I'm a rather cynical type, even for the Steve-o-Sphere ... but I think the rough outlines of a way forward could conceivably be starting to form.

    (1) Trump continues to get headlines, and continues to hammer the immigration issue. More importantly, he specifically mentions the immigration issue in the context of depressed wages and lower standards of living. He's already two-thirds of the way there (mentioned being a "jobs President" and mentioned the problems cause by illegal immigration); he just needs to combine the themes.

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says "they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages."

    (2) As we get further into the winter and towards the spring, Trump keeps a strong following. But he takes some knocks, makes some mistakes, and the GOP establishment coalesces around one of the establishment figures. It would be helpful if it were Jeb, the most useless clown of the whole bunch.

    (3) Trump runs third party. He takes it seriously, and hones his delivery and skills. Even when it becomes clear - as we get into next summer - that he's not going to win, he continues to buy ads and continues to talk about immigration. He makes specific promises as to what he would do - no amnesty, no more H1B visas, fewer guest college students, serious border security.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. "The new America is going to look different." She goes anti-white male and appeals to the "emerging majority," etc.

    (5) Jeb Bush is caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, his entire schtick is based upon being the Republican who can appeal to Latinos - "look at my beautiful wife!" On the other hand, he knows he has to bring Trump voters into the fold. He tries to do both and fails - Trump voters aren't convinced, anti-white-male types aren't going to vote for him anyway.

    (6) Hillary wins in a fairly decisive victory. She gets (say) 47 percent, Jeb gets 38 percent, Trump gets 11 percent, with 4 percent going protest / small-party / etc.

    (7) The day after the election, the GOP leadership - the true leadership, highest ranking members of the House and Senate and their top staffers, highest levels of power in the RNC, big-money legacy types - wake up furious at the white GOP base. "Don't they know they just gave us Hillary! Those idiots! Grrrr!!"

    (8) The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future. They have only one reasonable conclusion: they have to become an anti-immigration party. While it's not a guarantee of success, at least there is a path: they can try to go populist, go after the working-class and middle-class white votes, go after the black voters angry about no employment prospects and horrible wages, and become a nationalist "America first" party. Not because it's the right thing to do (which they don't care about), but because they realize they have to choose between the mega-donors and the average voter on the street. While they've been able to suck up to the donors and fool the voters for the past 30 years, Trump proves it won't be so easy anymore. "

    What do you think?

    In no way do you justify your assumption that the GOP Establishment will somehow derail Trump or that Trump will derail himself. The latter is a possibility. The former, given the lumbering incompetence and utter tone deafness of the GOP Establishment is highly unlikely. The biggest danger Trump faces is his own tongue. But so far gaffes that would have killed any other aspirant have done no damage to Trump. Assuming he makes it to Iowa and New Hampshire and wins those primaries his momentum will make him unstoppable. And he will slaughter the incredibly unattractive Rodham (or fratboy Biden or grandpa Sanders) in the general election.

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    It's not that I think anyone "derails" him - as I said, I think he makes a few mistakes, some of the other contenders drop out, and the non-Trump voters coalesce around one non-Trump candidate.

    Anyway, if you're right and Trump steamrolls everyone on the way to the Oval Office, I will happily come back here and admit I was wrong. If you're wrong and he does not, will you do the same?

    Steve, you want to start keeping a spreadsheet? Pretty sure there are fewer than 65,000 regular commentators, so you could do it in Excel.
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  83. @22pp22
    Jeb does not strike me as amiable. Give him some time in office and he'll go over to the dark side.

    It seems to me that Jeb! kinda knows he is a fraud, not very intelligent and so reliant on family connections, which is why he gets defensive about a lot of issues….

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  84. @WhatEvvs
    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen, a sex tape. I don't know.

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state and get rid of the artificial borders of states. In fact Trump sort of broached this when he talked about the insurance companies going state by state.

    The US labor market is completely screwed up and inefficient.

    Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs. They operate dangerous equipment and construct scaffolding in a slipshod manner. I walked underneath one the other day, where a guy was barking orders at us pedestrians in some incomprehensible language (not Spanish, I don't even know what it was). We could have been killed, but we kept walking. One day someone will get killed and everyone will jump around for two days and then things will go back to normal.

    I thought, "there must be out of work white (and black) guys in Tennessee or Alabama or New Hampshire who can do these jobs better than these guys who can't even speak English." But they are languishing in their states, living on benefits. An efficient native labor market would pay for these guys to come to the Big City, house them, feed them, pay them, etc.

    In the fracking industry guys live on site in company housing and everything is paid for. It's bleak and they get a little lonely being without family and social contacts, but the work gets done - by Americans. But that's because guys flock to these places. No one is paying for them to go there. We should pay them to go there - and all over the country where there are jobs to be done.

    But that's not the way capitalism works.

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state…

    Democratic socialists prefer immigrants. And for a good reason: their support for the state is more absolute.

    Unlike the fickle white man.

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    I really don't know where people like you come from. Rude of me to put it that way, but that's how I see it. It's capitalism that sucks in large numbers of disparate peoples to work cheap wages. It's capitalism that is doing so right now, in front of your eyes. Do you really think that capital is doing this at the behest of the Democratic Party hacks?

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor. The old Democratic Party in the US, the one founded by Andrew Jackson - the guys who saw nothing for them in the Civil War.

    The Republican Party was founded by capitalists - free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. I realize that goes against the received wisdom here. That's the one thing I criticize about the 'cuckservative' meme. Cucks have always been at the helm of the GOP. It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

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  85. @carol
    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without "going over" to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one's own country if not downright traitorous.

    Interesting question. I was an apartment rat who watched TV all day and spoke English as well as my native tongue by the time I started school, so I practically grew up bilingual. I don’t see a contradiction in my being an ardent Anglophile as well as a Nationalist, recognizing my roots, attachments, affinities and a deep enlightened self-interest regarding the welfare of my community and its posterity. In the past, many small countries have found their leaders’ undoubtedly genuine Nationalism operating side by side with immersion in a foreign High Culture (German, French, Italian, Russian, English) for credentialism and personal development. Maybe it’s different when your country (the US, I mean) is a civilizational centerpiece which produces and provides a full range of cultural products. I know many small countries would be intellectually and aesthetically impoverished if they stuck only to what the National culture has produced or adapted (translated etc). That’s why so many of us do learn quite a few foreign languages. My French has always been tortured and Romanian translations of the latest books are often cheap and hurried affairs, so I do most of my reading in the original English or in the more well regarded English translations. It also jives with what I read about the Afrikaner drive, especially by the XXth century, to enrich (no irony) their culture by translating as many things as possible into Afrikaans (including scientific tracts), creating more and more original works, and generally turning the language from a folk mix into a serious and multilaterally developed medium for the population’s development. The route to development was taking them through automatic bilingualism or trilingualism for education (Hendrik Verwoerd studied in Germany for some time, for instance).

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    Enoch Powell was fluent in Urdu.
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  86. @WhatEvvs
    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen, a sex tape. I don't know.

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state and get rid of the artificial borders of states. In fact Trump sort of broached this when he talked about the insurance companies going state by state.

    The US labor market is completely screwed up and inefficient.

    Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs. They operate dangerous equipment and construct scaffolding in a slipshod manner. I walked underneath one the other day, where a guy was barking orders at us pedestrians in some incomprehensible language (not Spanish, I don't even know what it was). We could have been killed, but we kept walking. One day someone will get killed and everyone will jump around for two days and then things will go back to normal.

    I thought, "there must be out of work white (and black) guys in Tennessee or Alabama or New Hampshire who can do these jobs better than these guys who can't even speak English." But they are languishing in their states, living on benefits. An efficient native labor market would pay for these guys to come to the Big City, house them, feed them, pay them, etc.

    In the fracking industry guys live on site in company housing and everything is paid for. It's bleak and they get a little lonely being without family and social contacts, but the work gets done - by Americans. But that's because guys flock to these places. No one is paying for them to go there. We should pay them to go there - and all over the country where there are jobs to be done.

    But that's not the way capitalism works.

    Around here, it’s Guatemalans, mostly Mam and Quanjobal speakers.

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  87. @Romanian
    Interesting question. I was an apartment rat who watched TV all day and spoke English as well as my native tongue by the time I started school, so I practically grew up bilingual. I don't see a contradiction in my being an ardent Anglophile as well as a Nationalist, recognizing my roots, attachments, affinities and a deep enlightened self-interest regarding the welfare of my community and its posterity. In the past, many small countries have found their leaders' undoubtedly genuine Nationalism operating side by side with immersion in a foreign High Culture (German, French, Italian, Russian, English) for credentialism and personal development. Maybe it's different when your country (the US, I mean) is a civilizational centerpiece which produces and provides a full range of cultural products. I know many small countries would be intellectually and aesthetically impoverished if they stuck only to what the National culture has produced or adapted (translated etc). That's why so many of us do learn quite a few foreign languages. My French has always been tortured and Romanian translations of the latest books are often cheap and hurried affairs, so I do most of my reading in the original English or in the more well regarded English translations. It also jives with what I read about the Afrikaner drive, especially by the XXth century, to enrich (no irony) their culture by translating as many things as possible into Afrikaans (including scientific tracts), creating more and more original works, and generally turning the language from a folk mix into a serious and multilaterally developed medium for the population's development. The route to development was taking them through automatic bilingualism or trilingualism for education (Hendrik Verwoerd studied in Germany for some time, for instance).

    Enoch Powell was fluent in Urdu.

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    And he also spoke Ancient Greek and translated Herodotus who, incidentally, was an admirer of my Daco-Getae forefathers. I've been reading up on him and he seems to be a fascinating figure, Powell I mean. I would consider reading something by him, but my local British Council doesn't carry anything and there doesn't seem to be any ebook versions of "Freedom and Reality", for instance. And anyone who becomes associated with the phrase "rivers of blood" without causing them must be awesome in my book.
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  88. @Anonymous Nephew
    "a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry"

    This is a little OT, but there's a piece on this site by Eamonn Fingleton, a former Financial Times editor who worked in Japan for (IIRC) 27 years.

    http://www.unz.com/efingleton/nikkeis-ft-takeover/

    His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry.

    http://www.fingleton.net/boeing-goes-to-pieces/

    "Although the details of U.S.-Japan aerospace deals are rarely disclosed, it is clear that a key dynamic is that, in return for transfers of American technology and manufacturing knowhow, the Japanese low-ball their prices in supplying an ever widening and more sophisticated array of components and materials. In many cases, Japan’s state-controlled airlines further sweeten the pot by paying top dollar for U.S. airframes and jet engines. All this boosts the American industry’s short term profits. In the long term, of course, the current crop of top executives will have long retired – and in the meantime they are crying all the way to the bank.

    For the Japanese the seemingly steep upfront costs are a steal given the enormous amount of learning-by-doing that would otherwise be required to reinvent American knowhow and production technology. As for the American national interest, the most obvious consequence is an endless stream of layoffs of American blue-collar workers. Less obviously but equally debilitating, the U.S. aerospace industry’s dependence on Japanese and other foreign suppliers has greatly exacerbated U.S. trade imbalances. By extension the U.S. Treasury has become ever more dependent on East Asia, not least Japan, to fund the trade deficits."

    I read somewhere that thanks to Boeing’s dealing with China where to get a sales contract China makes the fuselages for the small hop planes sold in China. China is planning to build their own plane and develop it using their own captive market. Once they get the bugs worked out they will then compete with Boeing for that market.

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  89. @carol
    Is it possible to learn a single foreign language well without "going over" to the other culture? It seems like it makes one ambivalent about one's own country if not downright traitorous.

    Re: learning foreign languages.
    In most countries the elites have to learn English, but it doesn’t seem to influence their loyalty.

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  90. @ricpic
    In no way do you justify your assumption that the GOP Establishment will somehow derail Trump or that Trump will derail himself. The latter is a possibility. The former, given the lumbering incompetence and utter tone deafness of the GOP Establishment is highly unlikely. The biggest danger Trump faces is his own tongue. But so far gaffes that would have killed any other aspirant have done no damage to Trump. Assuming he makes it to Iowa and New Hampshire and wins those primaries his momentum will make him unstoppable. And he will slaughter the incredibly unattractive Rodham (or fratboy Biden or grandpa Sanders) in the general election.

    It’s not that I think anyone “derails” him – as I said, I think he makes a few mistakes, some of the other contenders drop out, and the non-Trump voters coalesce around one non-Trump candidate.

    Anyway, if you’re right and Trump steamrolls everyone on the way to the Oval Office, I will happily come back here and admit I was wrong. If you’re wrong and he does not, will you do the same?

    Steve, you want to start keeping a spreadsheet? Pretty sure there are fewer than 65,000 regular commentators, so you could do it in Excel.

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  91. @syonredux
    Off-topic:

    Looks as though Bernie Sanders is surrendering:

    After Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was interrupted for a second time by Black Lives Matter activists over the weekend, the democratic socialist senator from Vermont released a racial justice platform, hired a racial justice activist to be his national press secretary and then told a overflow crowd of 19,000 supporters that “when we stand together, when we say that enough is enough, this country belongs to all of us.”
     
    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/10/black_lives_matter_is_shaking_up_the_bernie_sanders_campaign_how_hes_taking_the_critique_seriously/

    it is sad that you consider it surrender for a politician to actually offer a meaningful response to an issue rather than just offering meaningless platitudes and talking points.

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    it is sad that you consider it surrender for a politician to actually offer a meaningful response to an issue rather than just offering meaningless platitudes and talking points.
     
    Who says that surrendering isn't a meaningful response?
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  92. @MKP
    I'm a rather cynical type, even for the Steve-o-Sphere ... but I think the rough outlines of a way forward could conceivably be starting to form.

    (1) Trump continues to get headlines, and continues to hammer the immigration issue. More importantly, he specifically mentions the immigration issue in the context of depressed wages and lower standards of living. He's already two-thirds of the way there (mentioned being a "jobs President" and mentioned the problems cause by illegal immigration); he just needs to combine the themes.

    When the media tries to cut him off and distract Republican primary voters, he says "they want to talk about childish insults and grudges. I want to talk about how uncontrolled immigration is driving down employment and wages."

    (2) As we get further into the winter and towards the spring, Trump keeps a strong following. But he takes some knocks, makes some mistakes, and the GOP establishment coalesces around one of the establishment figures. It would be helpful if it were Jeb, the most useless clown of the whole bunch.

    (3) Trump runs third party. He takes it seriously, and hones his delivery and skills. Even when it becomes clear - as we get into next summer - that he's not going to win, he continues to buy ads and continues to talk about immigration. He makes specific promises as to what he would do - no amnesty, no more H1B visas, fewer guest college students, serious border security.

    (4) Hillary goes full-open borders. "The new America is going to look different." She goes anti-white male and appeals to the "emerging majority," etc.

    (5) Jeb Bush is caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, his entire schtick is based upon being the Republican who can appeal to Latinos - "look at my beautiful wife!" On the other hand, he knows he has to bring Trump voters into the fold. He tries to do both and fails - Trump voters aren't convinced, anti-white-male types aren't going to vote for him anyway.

    (6) Hillary wins in a fairly decisive victory. She gets (say) 47 percent, Jeb gets 38 percent, Trump gets 11 percent, with 4 percent going protest / small-party / etc.

    (7) The day after the election, the GOP leadership - the true leadership, highest ranking members of the House and Senate and their top staffers, highest levels of power in the RNC, big-money legacy types - wake up furious at the white GOP base. "Don't they know they just gave us Hillary! Those idiots! Grrrr!!"

    (8) The day AFTER the day after the election, the same GOP leadership takes a good, hard, self-interested look at the future. They have only one reasonable conclusion: they have to become an anti-immigration party. While it's not a guarantee of success, at least there is a path: they can try to go populist, go after the working-class and middle-class white votes, go after the black voters angry about no employment prospects and horrible wages, and become a nationalist "America first" party. Not because it's the right thing to do (which they don't care about), but because they realize they have to choose between the mega-donors and the average voter on the street. While they've been able to suck up to the donors and fool the voters for the past 30 years, Trump proves it won't be so easy anymore. "

    What do you think?

    In my wildest fantasy, Trump causes the corrupt corporatist war-mongering Zionist GOP to implode.

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    Trump has said he wants to put American soldiers in theatre to defeat ISIS. When it comes to the warfare-state, Trump doesn't appear to be much different from the rest of the Republican field.
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  93. @flyingtiger
    The bush es are a Bush/Walker alliance. The Walkers have the golden touch. They make the money. The Bushes are reliable caretakers. Whatever the Walkers give them to manage will not be ruined and may go up in value a bit. Any attempt by the Walkers to enter politics have been disasters. One Walker got so drunk before speeches that he was coherent. The Bushes can organize and win most elections.

    Any attempt by the Walkers to enter politics have been disasters. One Walker got so drunk before speeches that he was coherent.

    Should have drunk more then.

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  94. @Glossy
    "Jeb strikes me as an amiable second rater relative to his older brother, a hostile third rater.

    I hate W's politics - in a just world he would be tried for war crimes - but I never thought of him as hostile personality-wise. All the Bushes have pleasant, likable personalities.

    I never saw anything especially pleasant or likeable about G.W. He often came across like a smug, spoiled little brat. I understand he had a penchant for bestowing nicknames on his underlings too, which is a crappy, patronizing little habit often practiced by princelings (I had read that JFK used to do the same thing).

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    I understand he had a penchant for bestowing nicknames on his underlings too, which is a crappy, patronizing little habit often practiced by princelings (I had read that JFK used to do the same thing).
     
    GWB and JFK can't hold a candle to LBJ, who had aides hand him documents while he used the commode-- effectively showing his underlings his undercarriage.
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  95. @AndrewR
    Slightly OT but this reminds me of a recent incident. A cute Chinese girl knocked on my door one day in the spring. She worked for a charity called children.org or something. She was trying to solicit donations for poor children in various countries. It was one of those deals where you get letters and photos supposedly of the foreign child to simulate a relationship between donor and recipient. Anyway the girl was charming and almost had me agree to donate $30/month to a Mexican child. But then I thought about it.

    Carlos Slim is the wealthiest man on earth (at least last time I checked). He makes his wealth from owning monopolies that charge Mexicans more than necessary. Slim alone could afford to donate $30/month to every poor Mexican child for years. But what does he do instead? He owns the NYT which serves to brainwash Americans into accepting Mexico's poor so that Mexico's rich don't have to deal with them. And here this charity is making me feel morally obligated to give up almost 2% of my after tax income to help a stranger in Mexico.

    I politely declined and wished the young lady a nice day.

    That’s got nothing on “Guardians of Israel”, a charity (charity being, in this case, a nice word for racket) run by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They encourage Christians in America to donate money to help poor Jews in Israel. Really? Are there that many destitute Jews in Israel? Their fellow Israelis are incapable of helping them? Are there no wealthy Jews anywhere else in the world who can help their own people?

    The first time I saw one of their ads on TV, I was about bowled over, not just by the oily smarminess of the ad itself, but by the over-the-top chutzpah of the whole idea.

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  96. @jill
    How Jeb delivered huge amounts of cash to his brother, George:

    "As [Governor] Jeb Bush oversaw the State Board of Administration (SBA) that runs Florida’s massive public pension system, the state shifted billions of dollars into higher-risk, higher-fee alternative investments, benefiting the same sector of the investment industry he would work in upon leaving office. Many of those state deals delivered returns that fell short of projections. Roughly 20 percent of that system’s 53 private investment deals during Bush’s governorship went to companies that employed his brother’s Pioneers. Those financial firms, in turn, delivered more than $5 million of campaign cash to George W. Bush, the Republican National Committee and Jeb Bush’s Republican Party of Florida. (Click here to see the full list of Bush Pioneers whose firms received Florida pension investments from Jeb Bush’s administration)."

    http://www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bushs-administration-steered-florida-pension-money-george-w-bushs-fundraisers-1880592

    Jeb's reward of a no show job:
    "A majority of this paper was sold to SBA by Lehman Brothers . Bush, as the state’s top elected official, served on a three-member board that oversaw the SBA until he retired as governor in January. In August, Bush was hired as a consultant to the bank."

    http://www.forbes.com/2007/11/30/florida-bush-lehman-biz-beltway-cx_mb_1130florida.html

    Jeb moves on to Barclay's Bank:

    "Not much is known about what Bush actually did for Lehman—the firm that went belly-up in 2008 and sparked the wider financial crisis, and Barclays, the bank that purchased Lehman out of bankruptcy and continues to work out of its midtown Manhattan headquarters. He began working for the former after his term as Florida governor ended in 2007, and continued working for the latter until the end of 2014, when he decided to run for president.

    The two banks were his biggest sources of income in recent years: Bush earned more than $14 million working for Lehman and then Barclays, which based on my understanding of simple math accounted for nearly half of the $29 million he made after he left government. Yet in Tuesday’s disclosure, and even in many of his public comments, Bush has downplayed his work for the two banks."

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/04/charlie-gasparino-calls-out-jeb-on-lehman-millions/

    While Jeb was at Barclays, Barclays bank was charged with the following violations:

    Gold price fixing, energy price fixing, dark pool fraud, iSDA fixing, helping Iran avoid US sanctions, and money laundering on a huge scale. In other words, Barclays is a criminal organization

    Thanks for the links. The Lehman job was a bribe, as are most of those jobs-for-pols.

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  97. @Mr. Anon
    I never saw anything especially pleasant or likeable about G.W. He often came across like a smug, spoiled little brat. I understand he had a penchant for bestowing nicknames on his underlings too, which is a crappy, patronizing little habit often practiced by princelings (I had read that JFK used to do the same thing).

    I understand he had a penchant for bestowing nicknames on his underlings too, which is a crappy, patronizing little habit often practiced by princelings (I had read that JFK used to do the same thing).

    GWB and JFK can’t hold a candle to LBJ, who had aides hand him documents while he used the commode– effectively showing his underlings his undercarriage.

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    Yeah, LBJ was a real class-act. The whitehouse wouldn't see a swine like that again until Bill Clinton was President, using the oval office like the corner of a strip-club.
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  98. @syonredux
    Off-topic:

    Looks as though Bernie Sanders is surrendering:

    After Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was interrupted for a second time by Black Lives Matter activists over the weekend, the democratic socialist senator from Vermont released a racial justice platform, hired a racial justice activist to be his national press secretary and then told a overflow crowd of 19,000 supporters that “when we stand together, when we say that enough is enough, this country belongs to all of us.”
     
    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/10/black_lives_matter_is_shaking_up_the_bernie_sanders_campaign_how_hes_taking_the_critique_seriously/

    introduced to Symone Sanders, the campaign’s new national press secretary, as she introduced him to the crowd.

    So Bernie got shook down to hire a black national press secretary. Black jobs matter because its all about gettin’ paid!

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  99. @Bill Jones
    In my wildest fantasy, Trump causes the corrupt corporatist war-mongering Zionist GOP to implode.

    Trump has said he wants to put American soldiers in theatre to defeat ISIS. When it comes to the warfare-state, Trump doesn’t appear to be much different from the rest of the Republican field.

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    You expect too much. If Trump destroys, or severely damages the rotten corrupt GOP that will suffice for now.

    There will be change in policy until that is done.
    The neocons long march through the Institutions of the Republican Party took decades and will require decades to undo.
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    I understand he had a penchant for bestowing nicknames on his underlings too, which is a crappy, patronizing little habit often practiced by princelings (I had read that JFK used to do the same thing).
     
    GWB and JFK can't hold a candle to LBJ, who had aides hand him documents while he used the commode-- effectively showing his underlings his undercarriage.

    Yeah, LBJ was a real class-act. The whitehouse wouldn’t see a swine like that again until Bill Clinton was President, using the oval office like the corner of a strip-club.

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  101. @Lot
    Depressing article about the immigration reform split in the Senate GOP:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/immigration-gop-rift-mandatory-minimum-senate-cruz-121231.html?hp=t1_r

    The worst part is the momentum from the recent spate of deported aliens killing people is being used to push a worthless rule that would impose a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years for illegal reentry after a prior deportation.

    This would quickly overwhelm our already very expensive federal prison system, and likely not be enforced in practice, with the illegals subject to it taking pleas.

    I think our top semi-realistic priorities should be (1) ending the diversity visa, which brings in tens of thousands of unskilled Africans who then start chain-migrating their extended families, and switching to H1B's to cut back on the pressure from big business and divide them and the rest of the open borders lobby (2) finish construction of the authorized portions of the border fence and then build more.

    I don’t know if it is mandatory but there already is a minimum sentence of 2 years for illegal reentry after a prior deportation. That law is on the books and rarely prosecuted.

    Penalties for Illegal Reentry

    Under relevant federal statutes, an alien who commits illegal reentry as described above will be punished with:

    A fine; or

    Imprisonment for not more than two years; or

    Both fine and imprisonment.

    - See more at: http://immigration.findlaw.com/deportation-removal/illegal-reentry-into-the-u-s-after-removal-crime-and-punishment.html#sthash.DAm1gK6i.dpuf

    Unfortunately illegal entry is merely a misdemeanor if you have never been deported. This should have been made a felony years ago and prosecuted.

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  102. @Bugg
    Appears GOP Inc., media wing, is very upset that the old playbook is not working. Losing every popular vote since Reagan went home with the exceptions of Kerry and Dukakis will do that to a base. We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.At some point the populace expects you to act on what you promised. Add in exploding deficits, demographics, employment and wages and the GOP base is not going to allow this immigration idiocy to persist. At a loss why the GOP fights so hard against simply being the "White Party". It's reality; embrace it. Instead we get Huckabee's crazy God talk, Rubio looking to invade another ME country and many babbling about the wonder of free trade.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch,and he is echoing and cozying up to Trump. The long game is co-opting Trump's themes and perhaps a nod from The Donald rather than a 3rd party run. But so far Cruz has not caught fire.

    We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.

    Huh? The GOP, every election, campaigns on lower taxes, fewer regulations, lower taxes, free trade agreements, lower taxes, paths to citizenship, lower taxes, endless war, lower taxes, and “I’m pro-life but no litmus test on abortion.” The GOP, whenever they are in power, delivers on this agenda as best they can. Maybe they are sometimes dishonest, but not overall. Their agenda is “we are going to screw you to the wall, and you are going to cheer us on.” They don’t even have to lie most of the time. The retard zombie army cheers them on. Because being a conservative is about tolerance, inclusion, small government, war, and not being racist. And lower taxes.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch

    Oh, you’re trolling. Hint: was Ted Cruz invited to Erick Erickson’s cuckfest? Did the assembled retards cheer and pant with excitement?

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    The retard zombie army cheers them on.

    You bet they do. I was on another site arguing against guest workers and some supposedly people with 20 years experience in tech were parroting the nonsense that we need more H-1Bs because companies can't find anybody, Americans are too dumb, or not getting the right degrees. When you begin to show them they really don't know what they are talking about they become just as anti-American worker as those on the left are. The only difference is the left despises the white working class because they are white. The right despises them out of some kind of social Darwinian hatred of people they think are beneath them.
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  103. @Lot
    The illegals who come back to the USA after being deported already face prison time before their 2nd deportation for their illegal reentry. Not five years usually, but prison plus deportation is already a pretty strong incentive to not reenter after deportation.

    The men who do this anyway are often like the SF murderer: drunks and addicts with very low time orientation. A five-year sentence is not a deterrent for these people, they became addicts precisely because they don't behave rationally and think about the future.

    It just gives them time to live on the minimum security prison dole and learn English at our expenses. For the minority of dangerous ones, prosecutors can already stack a bunch of charges on them on top of the illegal reentry charge. A little meth and an unlicensed gun in the car, plus a prior record, is more than sufficient for the Feds to put a prior deportee away for 5-10 years. There is simply no need to impose a mandatory minimum. And the issue with the SF murderer was sanctuary cities. I can see a bill to deny federal funding to sanctuary cities as realistic, plus if anything it will save the federal government money because cities like SF will simply lose the money rather than repeal their sanctuary law. The debate in the less liberal cities like San Jose will cause a nice intra-left fight between La Raza types on one side and municipal unions on the other.

    Also depressing about the modern GOP is that they are currently making their top two targets among federal programs Planned Parenthood and Import-Export Bank. The first is, as Lion of the Blogosphere says, probably the single best use of federal funds. The second is a subsidy for American manufacturers, especially Boeing, which is needed to protect our workers and industry from other countries that subsidize their aerospace industry. There is a reason why Europe, Japan, Brazil, etc all do this: it is vital for national security, plus a strong aerospace industry has many other positive externalities.

    For the life of me, I can't see why the GOP doesn't cut HUD funding in half and give Obama the choice of either accepting the one half funding, or seeing the department shut down. Maybe section 8 landlords are now a big enough constituency they can veto the GOP doing this.

    For the life of me, I can’t see why the GOP doesn’t cut HUD funding in half and give Obama the choice of either accepting the one half funding, or seeing the department shut down.

    Because Obama would respond by 1) vetoing all spending bills, and 2) accusing the GOP of shutting down the government. This kind of thing has happened now several times in the last couple of decades. It always works for the Democrats. So, there has to be a plan for dealing with that problem. The internet was supposed to save them from this, but that hasn’t worked out, and they have no other plan.

    There’s also the problem that the GOP is in favor of HUD, multiculturalism, immigration, Black Lives Matter, and the whole Cultural Marxist project. So, that’s probably the first thing you’d want to work on. I mean, that is, if you weren’t just a silly, establishment troll.

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  104. @WhatEvvs
    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen, a sex tape. I don't know.

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state and get rid of the artificial borders of states. In fact Trump sort of broached this when he talked about the insurance companies going state by state.

    The US labor market is completely screwed up and inefficient.

    Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs. They operate dangerous equipment and construct scaffolding in a slipshod manner. I walked underneath one the other day, where a guy was barking orders at us pedestrians in some incomprehensible language (not Spanish, I don't even know what it was). We could have been killed, but we kept walking. One day someone will get killed and everyone will jump around for two days and then things will go back to normal.

    I thought, "there must be out of work white (and black) guys in Tennessee or Alabama or New Hampshire who can do these jobs better than these guys who can't even speak English." But they are languishing in their states, living on benefits. An efficient native labor market would pay for these guys to come to the Big City, house them, feed them, pay them, etc.

    In the fracking industry guys live on site in company housing and everything is paid for. It's bleak and they get a little lonely being without family and social contacts, but the work gets done - by Americans. But that's because guys flock to these places. No one is paying for them to go there. We should pay them to go there - and all over the country where there are jobs to be done.

    But that's not the way capitalism works.

    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen

    Yeah, something will just happen. And if you think the something didn’t “just happen,” you will get to be a conspiracy theorist. And if you point out the Bushies lifelong involvement with the kind of people whose entire purpose in life is to make things just happen, you will be a nutcase.

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    I'm thinking a sex tape. Everyone's forgot about Marla Maples. And nowadays there are ways to make things look real if they aren't. If not that, right....something. Move along, nothing to see.
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  105. @Harry Baldwin
    Pretty good except for Jeb. If there was ever a "Michael" in Barbara's womb he must have miscarried.

    That’s a good point. Why are the Bush children dumb? H.W. isn’t dumb. Barbara doesn’t strike me as especially dumb. It’s weird. Is Barbara an alcoholic?

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  106. @Reg Cæsar
    Enoch Powell was fluent in Urdu.

    And he also spoke Ancient Greek and translated Herodotus who, incidentally, was an admirer of my Daco-Getae forefathers. I’ve been reading up on him and he seems to be a fascinating figure, Powell I mean. I would consider reading something by him, but my local British Council doesn’t carry anything and there doesn’t seem to be any ebook versions of “Freedom and Reality”, for instance. And anyone who becomes associated with the phrase “rivers of blood” without causing them must be awesome in my book.

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  107. @WhatEvvs
    "His continuing thesis is that Japan, far from having stagnated over the last 30 years, is quietly continuing the mercantilist policies that built its industrial base. One facet of this is that what happened to the US car industry may happen to the US aerospace industry"

    Japan is still the world's biggest creditor nation, and has been so for 20 years running.

    Japan is still the world’s biggest creditor nation, and has been so for 20 years running.

    It may still be that, but most of its debt is owned by the population, which is a prolific saver. This is a much better situation that owing a debt to foreigners or, worse, owing a debt to foreigners in another currency.

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  108. @Anonymous
    it is sad that you consider it surrender for a politician to actually offer a meaningful response to an issue rather than just offering meaningless platitudes and talking points.

    it is sad that you consider it surrender for a politician to actually offer a meaningful response to an issue rather than just offering meaningless platitudes and talking points.

    Who says that surrendering isn’t a meaningful response?

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  109. Trump is the tall alpha male and, thus, electable. Sure, he may be a moral low life but remember another tall low life alpha male, Bill Clinton. He was electable, right?

    As for Mr. Columba Bush, ABS almost desires he be elected solely for amusement. Columba was an illegal immigrant, she was arrested for smuggling Paris fashions/jewelry into the United Staes when Jeb was governor, and she can’t speak english.

    What’s not to love about the comedic possibilities given her resume?

    Dare we hope Columba gets the crucial job of first lady?

    Dare we hope for a first lady who sounds like Perini Scloreso, the non-english speaking immigrant who used to appear on Second City TV?

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  110. Steve, we have a “rotting crops in US” report just in:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/on-u-s-farms-fewer-hands-for-the-harvest-1439371802

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  111. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state…
     
    Democratic socialists prefer immigrants. And for a good reason: their support for the state is more absolute.

    Unlike the fickle white man.

    I really don’t know where people like you come from. Rude of me to put it that way, but that’s how I see it. It’s capitalism that sucks in large numbers of disparate peoples to work cheap wages. It’s capitalism that is doing so right now, in front of your eyes. Do you really think that capital is doing this at the behest of the Democratic Party hacks?

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor. The old Democratic Party in the US, the one founded by Andrew Jackson – the guys who saw nothing for them in the Civil War.

    The Republican Party was founded by capitalists – free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. I realize that goes against the received wisdom here. That’s the one thing I criticize about the ‘cuckservative’ meme. Cucks have always been at the helm of the GOP. It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

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    [The Republican Party was founded by capitalists – free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. ]

    Slave labour was already competing against native white labour, and winning that competition too often for native whites and the nascent GOP. Republicans wanted to put a stop to that, just as they favoured higher tariffs and tighter restrictions on immigration than Democrats.
    , @peterike
    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor.

    Jewish labor leaders used labor as a tool into power, as it was their only path at the time. You'll note that as soon as Jews became the dominant power group in the US, around the 70s when the WASPs threw in the towel, the Democratic party attention to "labor" began a rapid descent and wages stagnated. It's now zero, and everything is identity politics. How's that benefiting the white working man?

    I always get a laugh when people say the Democrats are the party of "the working man." Yeah, that might have been true in 1950 at least at the local level, but it hasn't been the case for decades.

    It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    That's mostly true, but Republicans gained white working class voters over issues like crime, where the Dems were total squishes, and even on things like government spending back when white people thought you shouldn't spend what you don't have. Those days are long gone.

    In any case, there IS no party for the white working class. I would think that's pretty obvious now. The Dems hate them -- would literally have them killed if they could -- and the Repubs treat them with contempt.

    , @Reg Cæsar

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor
     
    Gompers is on record as saying the worst disservice a company could do to its workers is fail to make a profit, as it would cease to exist and leave those workers destitute. He also praised a well-known shoe manufacturer for its treatment of its workforce, saying they would never organize since they already had it so good. Gompers was anything but a true socialist.

    Your nostalgia for BOAC, Pemex, Gosplan and the Cuban Sugar Ministry is touching, but most of us don't want to go back to that. As for voluntary socialism, well, it lacks for volunteers. Communes and other collectives come apart over time. Robert Nozick wrote an essay about how everything in Israel was tilted in favor of the kibbutz, yet still few ran off to join.

    As for capitalism and immigration, look at history. The most nakedly capitalist administrations, Harding's and Coolidge's, are the ones that closed it down. The welfarist Johnson administration reopened the gates.

    Immigration control today has been almost entirely in the hands of right-wingers-- Sessions, King, Tancredo, Buchanan. That's no accident.
    , @guest
    The original GOPers were capitalists, yes, but they didn't believe in "capitalism" the way we usually mean it these days, i.e. free marketism. They were capitalists in the Marxist sense, I suppose. They were mercantilists, protectionists, banksters, in favor of (relatively) Big Government (though nowhere near what even radical antifederalists believe in today), working for the interests of Big Business, etc.
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  112. “Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs.”

    So, you base your entire thought process on merely one event? Fascinating.

    “So, from Bush I and NAFTA to JEB and his actual worship of all things Hispanic….”

    Mammon, not Hispanic.

    “We’re supposed to believe that it’s all about fighting the good fight against white racism, so therefore you are a racist if you are skeptical about what the Bushes are up to.”

    Don’t be ridiculous. There is no skepticism. These machinations represent the ugly side of capitalism.

    “The elder Bush used his Spanish-speaking son Jeb and Mexican daughter-in-law Columba Bush in a diplomatic role of building ties with the Salinas clan ruling Mexico.”

    “There’s a lot of money to be made grinding down the border between America and Mexico, and it’s by no means impossible to persuade yourself you are doing it for the good of your country.”

    Intelligent. Rational. Insightful. These strategies is how one builds an empire. Is not these long-term decisions the American way, what we strive for as a (white) people?

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    “So, from Bush I and NAFTA to JEB and his actual worship of all things Hispanic….”

    Mammon, not Hispanic.
     
    Don't be so dualistic, dear fellow. He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity:

    “I’m bicultural—maybe that’s more important than bilingual. For those who have those kinds of marriages, appreciating the culture of your spouse is the most powerful part of the relationship. Being able to share that culture and live in it has been one of the great joys of my life. We chose Miami to live because it is a bicultural city. It’s as American as any, but it has a flair to it that is related to this bicultural feeling. I wanted my children to grow up in a bicultural way.”

    While modestly disavowing bilingualism, Jeb Bush does speak Spanish readily. (His wife, reportedly, has not become equally comfortable in English.) His three children speak both English and Spanish.

    As Jeb Bush himself notes, there is a Bush family tradition of moving away from the culture into which one is born, to plunge into another. George H.W. Bush, born to a family of Northeastern grandees, reinvented himself as Sunbelt conservative. George W. Bush, born in New Haven, Connecticut, was the only member of the next generation of Bush brothers not born in Texas, and yet became the most Texan of them all. Jeb Bush moved away first from Texas, and then from his family’s patrician identity as White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

    “I’ve actually converted to Catholicism … I’m whatever a W-A-S-C would be. I’m a proud Catholic and a converted one, principally because this was the faith of my wife, and I wanted our children to grow up in a non-mixed marriage. So … no longer a WASP.”

    His family story and his relocation to Miami, a gateway to Latin America, have focused Jeb Bush’s attention on the topic of immigration. Listen to hours of his comments on public policy, and it quickly becomes overwhelmingly apparent that this is the public policy issue he cares about by far the most. Jeb Bush will often list three-point and four-point plans to get America moving again. But when he does so, it is the immigration point that seems almost always to energize him most.
     

    Jeb Bush’s enthusiasm for immigration, even when the immigrants are unskilled, even if they break the law, goes so deep that he even sometimes ventures to suggest that the personal characteristics of immigrants are to be preferred over those of the native-born. Here for example is an informal Jeb Bush speaking to a friendly interviewer, National Review’s Jay Nordlinger, early in 2014. “If we’re going to grow at 4% a year, we have to have young, aspiring people be able to create dynamic activity. And we can’t do that with our existing demographics.”

    Bush seems to have something more in mind than just the the familiar (if overstated) claim that immigration can counter the aging of the population. He seems to think that there is some quality in the immigrants themselves that is more enterprising—more dynamic to use his favorite term—than native-born Americans. This is not only a positive judgment on the immigrants themselves. It is also a negative judgment on native-born Americans.

    Both Jeb Bush and Barack Obama are men who have openly and publicly struggled with their ambivalence about their family inheritance. Both responded by leaving the place of their youth to create new identities for themselves: Barack Obama, as an organizer in the poor African-American neighborhoods of Chicago; Jeb Bush in Mexico, Venezuela, and at last in Cuban-influenced Miami. Both are men who have talked a great deal about the feeling of being “between two worlds”: Obama, in his famous autobiography; Bush, in his speeches. Both chose wives who would more deeply connect them to their new chosen identity. Both derived from their new identity a sharp critique of their nation as it is. Both have built their campaign for president upon a deep commitment to fundamental transformation of their nation into what they believe it should be.
     
    jeb-bush-a-republican-obama/385168/ >http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/is-jeb-bush-a-republican-obama/385168/

    Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics
    , @WhatEvvs

    “Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs.”

    So, you base your entire thought process on merely one event? Fascinating
     

    .
    Obviously you didn't read what I wrote. I walk past at least two construction sites, every day. Often more, but we'll take the lower number. I'll let you do the arithmetic.

    I only described one event. I could narrate dozens of such stories. In any case the point I was making wasn't about their sloppiness but about the fact that they are doing this work, which should by rights be done by Americans. Speaking English.

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  113. @WhatEvvs
    I really don't know where people like you come from. Rude of me to put it that way, but that's how I see it. It's capitalism that sucks in large numbers of disparate peoples to work cheap wages. It's capitalism that is doing so right now, in front of your eyes. Do you really think that capital is doing this at the behest of the Democratic Party hacks?

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor. The old Democratic Party in the US, the one founded by Andrew Jackson - the guys who saw nothing for them in the Civil War.

    The Republican Party was founded by capitalists - free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. I realize that goes against the received wisdom here. That's the one thing I criticize about the 'cuckservative' meme. Cucks have always been at the helm of the GOP. It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    [The Republican Party was founded by capitalists – free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. ]

    Slave labour was already competing against native white labour, and winning that competition too often for native whites and the nascent GOP. Republicans wanted to put a stop to that, just as they favoured higher tariffs and tighter restrictions on immigration than Democrats.

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  114. @Corvinus
    "Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs."

    So, you base your entire thought process on merely one event? Fascinating.

    "So, from Bush I and NAFTA to JEB and his actual worship of all things Hispanic…."

    Mammon, not Hispanic.

    "We’re supposed to believe that it’s all about fighting the good fight against white racism, so therefore you are a racist if you are skeptical about what the Bushes are up to."

    Don't be ridiculous. There is no skepticism. These machinations represent the ugly side of capitalism.

    "The elder Bush used his Spanish-speaking son Jeb and Mexican daughter-in-law Columba Bush in a diplomatic role of building ties with the Salinas clan ruling Mexico."

    "There’s a lot of money to be made grinding down the border between America and Mexico, and it’s by no means impossible to persuade yourself you are doing it for the good of your country."

    Intelligent. Rational. Insightful. These strategies is how one builds an empire. Is not these long-term decisions the American way, what we strive for as a (white) people?

    “So, from Bush I and NAFTA to JEB and his actual worship of all things Hispanic….”

    Mammon, not Hispanic.

    Don’t be so dualistic, dear fellow. He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity:

    “I’m bicultural—maybe that’s more important than bilingual. For those who have those kinds of marriages, appreciating the culture of your spouse is the most powerful part of the relationship. Being able to share that culture and live in it has been one of the great joys of my life. We chose Miami to live because it is a bicultural city. It’s as American as any, but it has a flair to it that is related to this bicultural feeling. I wanted my children to grow up in a bicultural way.”

    While modestly disavowing bilingualism, Jeb Bush does speak Spanish readily. (His wife, reportedly, has not become equally comfortable in English.) His three children speak both English and Spanish.

    As Jeb Bush himself notes, there is a Bush family tradition of moving away from the culture into which one is born, to plunge into another. George H.W. Bush, born to a family of Northeastern grandees, reinvented himself as Sunbelt conservative. George W. Bush, born in New Haven, Connecticut, was the only member of the next generation of Bush brothers not born in Texas, and yet became the most Texan of them all. Jeb Bush moved away first from Texas, and then from his family’s patrician identity as White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

    “I’ve actually converted to Catholicism … I’m whatever a W-A-S-C would be. I’m a proud Catholic and a converted one, principally because this was the faith of my wife, and I wanted our children to grow up in a non-mixed marriage. So … no longer a WASP.”

    His family story and his relocation to Miami, a gateway to Latin America, have focused Jeb Bush’s attention on the topic of immigration. Listen to hours of his comments on public policy, and it quickly becomes overwhelmingly apparent that this is the public policy issue he cares about by far the most. Jeb Bush will often list three-point and four-point plans to get America moving again. But when he does so, it is the immigration point that seems almost always to energize him most.

    Jeb Bush’s enthusiasm for immigration, even when the immigrants are unskilled, even if they break the law, goes so deep that he even sometimes ventures to suggest that the personal characteristics of immigrants are to be preferred over those of the native-born. Here for example is an informal Jeb Bush speaking to a friendly interviewer, National Review’s Jay Nordlinger, early in 2014. “If we’re going to grow at 4% a year, we have to have young, aspiring people be able to create dynamic activity. And we can’t do that with our existing demographics.”

    Bush seems to have something more in mind than just the the familiar (if overstated) claim that immigration can counter the aging of the population. He seems to think that there is some quality in the immigrants themselves that is more enterprising—more dynamic to use his favorite term—than native-born Americans. This is not only a positive judgment on the immigrants themselves. It is also a negative judgment on native-born Americans.

    Both Jeb Bush and Barack Obama are men who have openly and publicly struggled with their ambivalence about their family inheritance. Both responded by leaving the place of their youth to create new identities for themselves: Barack Obama, as an organizer in the poor African-American neighborhoods of Chicago; Jeb Bush in Mexico, Venezuela, and at last in Cuban-influenced Miami. Both are men who have talked a great deal about the feeling of being “between two worlds”: Obama, in his famous autobiography; Bush, in his speeches. Both chose wives who would more deeply connect them to their new chosen identity. Both derived from their new identity a sharp critique of their nation as it is. Both have built their campaign for president upon a deep commitment to fundamental transformation of their nation into what they believe it should be.

    jeb-bush-a-republican-obama/385168/ >http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/is-jeb-bush-a-republican-obama/385168/

    Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics

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  115. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:
    @Bill

    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen
     
    Yeah, something will just happen. And if you think the something didn't "just happen," you will get to be a conspiracy theorist. And if you point out the Bushies lifelong involvement with the kind of people whose entire purpose in life is to make things just happen, you will be a nutcase.

    I’m thinking a sex tape. Everyone’s forgot about Marla Maples. And nowadays there are ways to make things look real if they aren’t. If not that, right….something. Move along, nothing to see.

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  116. WhatEvvs [AKA "AamirKhanFan"] says:
    @Corvinus
    "Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs."

    So, you base your entire thought process on merely one event? Fascinating.

    "So, from Bush I and NAFTA to JEB and his actual worship of all things Hispanic…."

    Mammon, not Hispanic.

    "We’re supposed to believe that it’s all about fighting the good fight against white racism, so therefore you are a racist if you are skeptical about what the Bushes are up to."

    Don't be ridiculous. There is no skepticism. These machinations represent the ugly side of capitalism.

    "The elder Bush used his Spanish-speaking son Jeb and Mexican daughter-in-law Columba Bush in a diplomatic role of building ties with the Salinas clan ruling Mexico."

    "There’s a lot of money to be made grinding down the border between America and Mexico, and it’s by no means impossible to persuade yourself you are doing it for the good of your country."

    Intelligent. Rational. Insightful. These strategies is how one builds an empire. Is not these long-term decisions the American way, what we strive for as a (white) people?

    “Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs.”

    So, you base your entire thought process on merely one event? Fascinating

    .
    Obviously you didn’t read what I wrote. I walk past at least two construction sites, every day. Often more, but we’ll take the lower number. I’ll let you do the arithmetic.

    I only described one event. I could narrate dozens of such stories. In any case the point I was making wasn’t about their sloppiness but about the fact that they are doing this work, which should by rights be done by Americans. Speaking English.

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  117. @WhatEvvs
    I really don't know where people like you come from. Rude of me to put it that way, but that's how I see it. It's capitalism that sucks in large numbers of disparate peoples to work cheap wages. It's capitalism that is doing so right now, in front of your eyes. Do you really think that capital is doing this at the behest of the Democratic Party hacks?

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor. The old Democratic Party in the US, the one founded by Andrew Jackson - the guys who saw nothing for them in the Civil War.

    The Republican Party was founded by capitalists - free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. I realize that goes against the received wisdom here. That's the one thing I criticize about the 'cuckservative' meme. Cucks have always been at the helm of the GOP. It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor.

    Jewish labor leaders used labor as a tool into power, as it was their only path at the time. You’ll note that as soon as Jews became the dominant power group in the US, around the 70s when the WASPs threw in the towel, the Democratic party attention to “labor” began a rapid descent and wages stagnated. It’s now zero, and everything is identity politics. How’s that benefiting the white working man?

    I always get a laugh when people say the Democrats are the party of “the working man.” Yeah, that might have been true in 1950 at least at the local level, but it hasn’t been the case for decades.

    It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    That’s mostly true, but Republicans gained white working class voters over issues like crime, where the Dems were total squishes, and even on things like government spending back when white people thought you shouldn’t spend what you don’t have. Those days are long gone.

    In any case, there IS no party for the white working class. I would think that’s pretty obvious now. The Dems hate them — would literally have them killed if they could — and the Repubs treat them with contempt.

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    The last hurrah for the Democratic Party and Labor was the battle for NAFTA with Clinton, Gore and the Republican Congress against Pat Buchanan, Pat Choate, Ross Perot, Dick Gephardt, and the Democratic Congress.

    The Republicans didn't want all the stink to land on them even though they alone had the votes to get it passed. They made Clinton get some Democrats to make it look bipartisan. Clinton told every lie imaginable and conned Mexico First Democratic Congressmen in border states to change sides.

    , @BB753
    Rather, the Democrats have become the party of “the non-working man” . The party of the lower clases who refuse/are unable to work and of the upper classes who don´t need to work for a living.
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  118. @Bill

    We cannot have a party campaign on one set of priorities every 2/4 years and then go to DC and completely disregard them.
     
    Huh? The GOP, every election, campaigns on lower taxes, fewer regulations, lower taxes, free trade agreements, lower taxes, paths to citizenship, lower taxes, endless war, lower taxes, and "I'm pro-life but no litmus test on abortion." The GOP, whenever they are in power, delivers on this agenda as best they can. Maybe they are sometimes dishonest, but not overall. Their agenda is "we are going to screw you to the wall, and you are going to cheer us on." They don't even have to lie most of the time. The retard zombie army cheers them on. Because being a conservative is about tolerance, inclusion, small government, war, and not being racist. And lower taxes.

    Guy to keep on eye on is cruz. The establishment hates him, he is the sharpest of the bunch
     
    Oh, you're trolling. Hint: was Ted Cruz invited to Erick Erickson's cuckfest? Did the assembled retards cheer and pant with excitement?

    The retard zombie army cheers them on.

    You bet they do. I was on another site arguing against guest workers and some supposedly people with 20 years experience in tech were parroting the nonsense that we need more H-1Bs because companies can’t find anybody, Americans are too dumb, or not getting the right degrees. When you begin to show them they really don’t know what they are talking about they become just as anti-American worker as those on the left are. The only difference is the left despises the white working class because they are white. The right despises them out of some kind of social Darwinian hatred of people they think are beneath them.

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  119. “Obviously you didn’t read what I wrote.”

    Aamir, I read exactly what you wrote. You said that at construction sites, Hispanic men who work there are slobs. You said you could “narrate dozens of stories”. You made a generalization, which may not be true in the aggregate. You do know what aggregate means, right?

    “I was making wasn’t about their sloppiness but about the fact that they are doing this work, which should by rights be done by Americans. Speaking English.”

    Who is to say that those Spanish speaking men are not Americans employed by a man of Latin American origins? Now, of course, if they are illegals, then you have a duty to report them to immigration officials. I’m sure, as an American, you will get right on it.

    “He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity”

    No, Syon, Jeb worships Mammon. Hispanicity is a bug, not a feature.

    ”Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics.”

    You have a strange definition of “selling out”–marrying into a family who has connections.

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    You don't offer anything to the discussion here, except tired 20th-century liberal bien pensant ramblings about humanity, including dumbed-down Noel Ignatiev b.s. I'm sure you shed bitter tears when it was revealed that Atticus Finch wasn't the second coming.

    News, friend. Germans and Irish were white. Look at the ancestries of a good many politicians, prominent individuals and public figures from the Southern Border States. Many of them were of German, particularly Colonial era German, descent. There was anti-German sentiment, but that often involved those precious Anglophiles. You know, the ideological ancestors of your beloved liberal Center. Anti-Germanism also involved that most sensible fellow Mr. Franklin.
    Now this is gonna hurt, but think about this. Your ideological forebears, the ones wanting to free the slaves and uplift everybody and make America a lovely melting pot, were the people most opposed to any form of deviance from that norm whether it be Irish, German, Catholic or Southern. The anti-German language legislating you once mentioned should be looked at in that context. How can we be a shiny, integrated city on a hill if those peasants still speak strangely or send their kids to religious schools?

    And there were also individuals of Irish (Gaelic, at that) ancestry involved in important roles from early times on. Of course, Ignatiev wouldn't do real research that would involve quantitative analysis and primary sources. Too much work. No, better to just find a few anecdotes and run with it. Particularly if it is preachy.


    But, hey, you've got to score points and prove your moral and intellectual worth to us reactionary neanderthals. BTW, scholar, some time ago when people were talking about Armenians as Caucasians they meant from the Caucasus. But, like many an American middle-brow, you are hopelessly provincial. It's a common tale, the more an American brags about their cosmopolitan connections and attitudes, the more off they are in terms of realistically appraising foreign cultures.
    I suspect you think you are witty. In fact, you come off as prissy. You know what's worse than basement-dwelling losers? The putzes who delight in tormenting them. Now go dust off those photos of you and your friends of color.

    , @syonredux

    “He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity”

    No, Syon, Jeb worships Mammon. Hispanicity is a bug, not a feature.
     

    Two features, dear fellow.As I said, JEB's statements and actions make his overwhelming worship of all things Hispanic quite plain

    ”Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics.”

    You have a strange definition of “selling out”–marrying into a family who has connections.
     

    JEB didn't marry Columba because her family has "connections" (they have none).He married her because he was a loser who couldn't get an Anglo girl.And he has submitted to her alien culture.The man's a traitor to Anglo-America, pure and simple
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  120. @syonredux

    I’ve heard of this analogy:

    G. H. W. Bush = Don Vito
    George W. = Sonny
    Neil = Fredo
    Jeb = Michael
    Karl Rove = Tom Hagen
     
    JEB is far too uxorious to be Michael.

    Jeb was the one who, when the Bush boys were growing up, was considered the smartest.

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    Jeb was the one who, when the Bush boys were growing up, was considered the smartest.
     
    Yeah, but as I pointed out upthread, he's simply far too uxorious to be Michael.
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  121. @peterike
    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor.

    Jewish labor leaders used labor as a tool into power, as it was their only path at the time. You'll note that as soon as Jews became the dominant power group in the US, around the 70s when the WASPs threw in the towel, the Democratic party attention to "labor" began a rapid descent and wages stagnated. It's now zero, and everything is identity politics. How's that benefiting the white working man?

    I always get a laugh when people say the Democrats are the party of "the working man." Yeah, that might have been true in 1950 at least at the local level, but it hasn't been the case for decades.

    It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    That's mostly true, but Republicans gained white working class voters over issues like crime, where the Dems were total squishes, and even on things like government spending back when white people thought you shouldn't spend what you don't have. Those days are long gone.

    In any case, there IS no party for the white working class. I would think that's pretty obvious now. The Dems hate them -- would literally have them killed if they could -- and the Repubs treat them with contempt.

    The last hurrah for the Democratic Party and Labor was the battle for NAFTA with Clinton, Gore and the Republican Congress against Pat Buchanan, Pat Choate, Ross Perot, Dick Gephardt, and the Democratic Congress.

    The Republicans didn’t want all the stink to land on them even though they alone had the votes to get it passed. They made Clinton get some Democrats to make it look bipartisan. Clinton told every lie imaginable and conned Mexico First Democratic Congressmen in border states to change sides.

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  122. @WhatEvvs
    I really don't know where people like you come from. Rude of me to put it that way, but that's how I see it. It's capitalism that sucks in large numbers of disparate peoples to work cheap wages. It's capitalism that is doing so right now, in front of your eyes. Do you really think that capital is doing this at the behest of the Democratic Party hacks?

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor. The old Democratic Party in the US, the one founded by Andrew Jackson - the guys who saw nothing for them in the Civil War.

    The Republican Party was founded by capitalists - free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. I realize that goes against the received wisdom here. That's the one thing I criticize about the 'cuckservative' meme. Cucks have always been at the helm of the GOP. It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor

    Gompers is on record as saying the worst disservice a company could do to its workers is fail to make a profit, as it would cease to exist and leave those workers destitute. He also praised a well-known shoe manufacturer for its treatment of its workforce, saying they would never organize since they already had it so good. Gompers was anything but a true socialist.

    Your nostalgia for BOAC, Pemex, Gosplan and the Cuban Sugar Ministry is touching, but most of us don’t want to go back to that. As for voluntary socialism, well, it lacks for volunteers. Communes and other collectives come apart over time. Robert Nozick wrote an essay about how everything in Israel was tilted in favor of the kibbutz, yet still few ran off to join.

    As for capitalism and immigration, look at history. The most nakedly capitalist administrations, Harding’s and Coolidge’s, are the ones that closed it down. The welfarist Johnson administration reopened the gates.

    Immigration control today has been almost entirely in the hands of right-wingers– Sessions, King, Tancredo, Buchanan. That’s no accident.

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  123. Pretty tame stuff on the most criminal clan in USA history:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/cia-drugs/conversations/topics/39736

    How about the tendency of people to drop dead rather than allowed to compromise (in this case the Jeb) Bush criminal history?

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    When it comes to the Clintons and/or the Bushes, just wave hello from a safe distance, as close proximity to either is a known health hazard.
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  124. @Corvinus
    “Obviously you didn’t read what I wrote.”

    Aamir, I read exactly what you wrote. You said that at construction sites, Hispanic men who work there are slobs. You said you could “narrate dozens of stories”. You made a generalization, which may not be true in the aggregate. You do know what aggregate means, right?

    “I was making wasn’t about their sloppiness but about the fact that they are doing this work, which should by rights be done by Americans. Speaking English.”

    Who is to say that those Spanish speaking men are not Americans employed by a man of Latin American origins? Now, of course, if they are illegals, then you have a duty to report them to immigration officials. I’m sure, as an American, you will get right on it.

    “He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity”

    No, Syon, Jeb worships Mammon. Hispanicity is a bug, not a feature.

    ”Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics.”

    You have a strange definition of “selling out”--marrying into a family who has connections.

    You don’t offer anything to the discussion here, except tired 20th-century liberal bien pensant ramblings about humanity, including dumbed-down Noel Ignatiev b.s. I’m sure you shed bitter tears when it was revealed that Atticus Finch wasn’t the second coming.

    News, friend. Germans and Irish were white. Look at the ancestries of a good many politicians, prominent individuals and public figures from the Southern Border States. Many of them were of German, particularly Colonial era German, descent. There was anti-German sentiment, but that often involved those precious Anglophiles. You know, the ideological ancestors of your beloved liberal Center. Anti-Germanism also involved that most sensible fellow Mr. Franklin.
    Now this is gonna hurt, but think about this. Your ideological forebears, the ones wanting to free the slaves and uplift everybody and make America a lovely melting pot, were the people most opposed to any form of deviance from that norm whether it be Irish, German, Catholic or Southern. The anti-German language legislating you once mentioned should be looked at in that context. How can we be a shiny, integrated city on a hill if those peasants still speak strangely or send their kids to religious schools?

    And there were also individuals of Irish (Gaelic, at that) ancestry involved in important roles from early times on. Of course, Ignatiev wouldn’t do real research that would involve quantitative analysis and primary sources. Too much work. No, better to just find a few anecdotes and run with it. Particularly if it is preachy.

    But, hey, you’ve got to score points and prove your moral and intellectual worth to us reactionary neanderthals. BTW, scholar, some time ago when people were talking about Armenians as Caucasians they meant from the Caucasus. But, like many an American middle-brow, you are hopelessly provincial. It’s a common tale, the more an American brags about their cosmopolitan connections and attitudes, the more off they are in terms of realistically appraising foreign cultures.
    I suspect you think you are witty. In fact, you come off as prissy. You know what’s worse than basement-dwelling losers? The putzes who delight in tormenting them. Now go dust off those photos of you and your friends of color.

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  125. @Andrew Jackson
    I've spent the better part of the day in the comments sections of liberal sites making the simple point that the Democratic Party is the natural vehicle through which these Black Lives Matter folks should pursue their agenda, and that the Democrat Party should embrace that agenda fully. And damn you should watch these people squirm. I actually got banned by Washington Monthly just for making that simple argument! It's like these people know they can't win as the Black Lives Matter party, and yet they also can't win without the Black Lives Matter people. The diversion and the misdirection is really something to behold. It would be absolute malpractice for the GOP nominee to fail to force Hillary to chose between black lives matter and all lives matter. But only Jeb! would be that dumb right?

    Truthfully, Arthur, I’m not completely sure I understand the point(s) you were trying to make. But I’d like to tell you that, owing to BLM’s serial protest against Sanders and O’Malley, some people are starting to suspect that the movement has already been co-opted by the Clinton machine, and is being used as a tool to destroy her enemies inside the party.

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  126. @Anon
    "Much of the elder Bush’s presidency consisted of reacting to various unexpected developments, such as the decline of the Soviet Union, the invasion of Kuwait, the recession, the Los Angeles riots, and so forth."

    On the Left, there was talk of how the Bush administration had ensnared Hussein into a trap.
    Supposedly, the US ambassador to Iraq gave mixed signals or even suggested that US would not oppose Hussein's move on Kuwait.

    At the time, I didn't believe it. I thought the ambassador was just inept or Hussein interpreted it wrong. I still believed in the US and thought US wouldn't do something do down-and-dirty.
    But when I look at more recent events in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine--and all the lies told by government and served by the media--, I'm having second thoughts about how the Gulf War happened.

    And one thing still sticks in my mind. During the Iran-Iraq War, I recall the US media saw Hussein as 'our man in the middle east, the relatively sane sunni fighting the crazy shias of Iran'.

    George Will wrote a column about how Hussein is worse than Mussolini. What really sticks out is the stridency of the article. Hussein isn't just some bad guy but the Big Bad Wolf, the instigator of a great new conflict after the Cold War... as if US is desperate for a new bogeyman.
    But, but, but... when Hussein was fighting Iran, he was the 'good guy'.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1990/08/03/wolf-out-of-babylon/f700ada2-5ab9-41df-916e-61ba97e3a051/

    Given recent events, I'm convinced people in US government are capable of anything.

    But when I look at more recent events in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine–and all the lies told by government and served by the media–, I’m having second thoughts about how the Gulf War happened.

    Me too. I am now convinced that Hussein was coaxed into invading Kuwait so that Washington would have a pretext to start setting up permanent bases in the Persian Gulf.

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  127. @Corvinus
    “Obviously you didn’t read what I wrote.”

    Aamir, I read exactly what you wrote. You said that at construction sites, Hispanic men who work there are slobs. You said you could “narrate dozens of stories”. You made a generalization, which may not be true in the aggregate. You do know what aggregate means, right?

    “I was making wasn’t about their sloppiness but about the fact that they are doing this work, which should by rights be done by Americans. Speaking English.”

    Who is to say that those Spanish speaking men are not Americans employed by a man of Latin American origins? Now, of course, if they are illegals, then you have a duty to report them to immigration officials. I’m sure, as an American, you will get right on it.

    “He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity”

    No, Syon, Jeb worships Mammon. Hispanicity is a bug, not a feature.

    ”Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics.”

    You have a strange definition of “selling out”--marrying into a family who has connections.

    “He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity”

    No, Syon, Jeb worships Mammon. Hispanicity is a bug, not a feature.

    Two features, dear fellow.As I said, JEB’s statements and actions make his overwhelming worship of all things Hispanic quite plain

    ”Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics.”

    You have a strange definition of “selling out”–marrying into a family who has connections.

    JEB didn’t marry Columba because her family has “connections” (they have none).He married her because he was a loser who couldn’t get an Anglo girl.And he has submitted to her alien culture.The man’s a traitor to Anglo-America, pure and simple

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    It is possible to marry someone from a different culture and not be hostile to your own.

    Likewise, it's quite possible, and proven time and again, to marry someone from your own culture or not marry at all, and be hostile. Could you really imagine half of the NPR audience with a wife from the Global South? A few cases, perhaps, but with someone sufficiently clean by whatever rubric Joe Biden was thinking of, and with tenure, serving as the university spokeswoman for people she would never, ever socialize with.

    Someone made the point a long time ago on these threads, the worldview of the managerial classes are not anti-white. They are anti- wrong kind of white people.

    Intermarriage isn't a problem. Universalist utopias, American hubris, greed, Anglo-Saxon ahistoricism and hyper-individualism are. The latter two are, of course, deemed a "good" thing for the masses, if not for the elites- who play a sort of muddled or well-developed long-game (depending on how conspiratorial you are). And Bush scheming, as always, plays a role..
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  128. @njguy73
    Jeb was the one who, when the Bush boys were growing up, was considered the smartest.

    Jeb was the one who, when the Bush boys were growing up, was considered the smartest.

    Yeah, but as I pointed out upthread, he’s simply far too uxorious to be Michael.

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    Wife-doting, or lack thereof, was not factored into my analogy.
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  129. […] Jeb Bush and Carlos Slim by Steve Sailer for The Unz Review. […]

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  130. @Anon
    Be a Hickservative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgJC4Pu_tbo

    The really ‘Willy Stark’ (Huey Long) was even better. I have always wondered about that old story where he was supposedly shot by some random dentist–or was it by his own bodyguards?

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  131. “As I said, JEB’s statements and actions make his overwhelming worship of all things Hispanic quite plain”

    It’s not overwhelming worship or anything of that nature.

    “He married her because he was a loser who couldn’t get an Anglo girl.And he has submitted to her alien culture.The man’s a traitor to Anglo-America, pure and simple.”

    Not this again. First, a man or a woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want. Second, using your metric, most Anglos (referring to people from England) are “traitors”, considering they have historically married outside of their ethnic group.

    “Alien cultures”…how quaint.

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    “As I said, JEB’s statements and actions make his overwhelming worship of all things Hispanic quite plain”

    It’s not overwhelming worship or anything of that nature.
     
    But it is, as demonstrated by his fondness for Hispanic cosplay:

    Over time, he [JEB Bush] became what Ana Navarro calls “pan-Hispanic,” meaning he speaks Spanish fluently with an accent that’s not detectable as Cuban or Nicaraguan or Mexican,and has an understanding of each specific culture’s idiosyncrasies. Jorge L. Arrizurieta, a Miami businessman and a longtime friend of Jeb’s, calls him a gringo aplatanado, by which he means “the most Latino American you will ever meet.” Arrizurieta told me that Jeb “enjoys all these Cuban gestures and phrases with friends.” He’ll tap his elbow when someone’s being cheap—a gesture that signifies caminando con los codos, or “walking on your elbows,” which saves wear and tear on your shoes.
     
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/06/the-mysterious-columba-bush/392090/#disqus_thread

    “He married her because he was a loser who couldn’t get an Anglo girl.And he has submitted to her alien culture.The man’s a traitor to Anglo-America, pure and simple.”

    Not this again. First, a man or a woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want.
     
    Of course they do, dear fellow.And JEB's decision to procreate with a Mexican is quite telling....

    Second, using your metric, most Anglos (referring to people from England)
     
    I'm referring to people who are culturally Anglo.When I mean people from England, I use English or Anglo-Saxon.Cf the difference between Hispanic and Spaniard.

    are “traitors”, considering they have historically married outside of their ethnic group.
     
    Last time that I checked, most Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos.And, of course, there is his decision to submit to his wife's Hispanic culture.

    “Alien cultures”…how quaint.
     
    How important, dear fellow.The gulf between Edmund Burke and Octavio Paz is wide and deep....
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  132. @peterike
    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor.

    Jewish labor leaders used labor as a tool into power, as it was their only path at the time. You'll note that as soon as Jews became the dominant power group in the US, around the 70s when the WASPs threw in the towel, the Democratic party attention to "labor" began a rapid descent and wages stagnated. It's now zero, and everything is identity politics. How's that benefiting the white working man?

    I always get a laugh when people say the Democrats are the party of "the working man." Yeah, that might have been true in 1950 at least at the local level, but it hasn't been the case for decades.

    It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    That's mostly true, but Republicans gained white working class voters over issues like crime, where the Dems were total squishes, and even on things like government spending back when white people thought you shouldn't spend what you don't have. Those days are long gone.

    In any case, there IS no party for the white working class. I would think that's pretty obvious now. The Dems hate them -- would literally have them killed if they could -- and the Repubs treat them with contempt.

    Rather, the Democrats have become the party of “the non-working man” . The party of the lower clases who refuse/are unable to work and of the upper classes who don´t need to work for a living.

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  133. @syonredux

    “He plainly worships both Mammon and Hispanicity”

    No, Syon, Jeb worships Mammon. Hispanicity is a bug, not a feature.
     

    Two features, dear fellow.As I said, JEB's statements and actions make his overwhelming worship of all things Hispanic quite plain

    ”Nothing more contemptible than an Anglo who sells out to Hispanics.”

    You have a strange definition of “selling out”–marrying into a family who has connections.
     

    JEB didn't marry Columba because her family has "connections" (they have none).He married her because he was a loser who couldn't get an Anglo girl.And he has submitted to her alien culture.The man's a traitor to Anglo-America, pure and simple

    It is possible to marry someone from a different culture and not be hostile to your own.

    Likewise, it’s quite possible, and proven time and again, to marry someone from your own culture or not marry at all, and be hostile. Could you really imagine half of the NPR audience with a wife from the Global South? A few cases, perhaps, but with someone sufficiently clean by whatever rubric Joe Biden was thinking of, and with tenure, serving as the university spokeswoman for people she would never, ever socialize with.

    Someone made the point a long time ago on these threads, the worldview of the managerial classes are not anti-white. They are anti- wrong kind of white people.

    Intermarriage isn’t a problem. Universalist utopias, American hubris, greed, Anglo-Saxon ahistoricism and hyper-individualism are. The latter two are, of course, deemed a “good” thing for the masses, if not for the elites- who play a sort of muddled or well-developed long-game (depending on how conspiratorial you are). And Bush scheming, as always, plays a role..

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    It is possible to marry someone from a different culture and not be hostile to your own.
     
    Marriage is war.One side's culture must submit to the other side.In JEB's case, he has surrendered to his wife's Hispanic culture.Hence, he is a traitor to Anglo-America.

    Intermarriage isn’t a problem.
     
    Yes it is.The surest way to destroy Anglo-America is via intermarriage with Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos.
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  134. @SFG
    I think this is a very obscure Hitchhiker's Guide reference...

    No. Huitzilopochtli was the supreme god of the old Aztec pantheon. Hence the reference to human sacrifice.

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  135. The Bush family shenanigans are typical of the financial elite. The Bushes were simply astute enough to see the synergies that would result from political office and simultaneous close ties to Big Banking. This is a dangerous incestuous arrangement. And ultimately, it is all made possible by the existence of central banking. The power to print money is the power to rule.

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  136. @Harry Baldwin
    I heard a Republican strategist on Fox Business this morning talking about Trump. He said the party has to treat him carefully, but at the same time its priority must be to protect the Republican brand. What the hell is the Republican brand? Making promises to your base you have no intention of keeping? Itching to get into Middle East wars? Turning a blind eye to our debt crisis? Envying the Democrats' "cooler" base and trying to woo away its Hispanics? Doing everything for the wealthy elite who like Democrats better anyway? Worrying more about Israel's borders than ours?

    What the hell is the Republican brand? Making promises to your base you have no intention of keeping? Itching to get into Middle East wars? Turning a blind eye to our debt crisis? Envying the Democrats’ “cooler” base and trying to woo away its Hispanics? Doing everything for the wealthy elite who like Democrats better anyway? Worrying more about Israel’s borders than ours?

    Hey, you catch on fast!

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  137. @Corvinus
    "As I said, JEB’s statements and actions make his overwhelming worship of all things Hispanic quite plain"

    It's not overwhelming worship or anything of that nature.

    "He married her because he was a loser who couldn’t get an Anglo girl.And he has submitted to her alien culture.The man’s a traitor to Anglo-America, pure and simple."

    Not this again. First, a man or a woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want. Second, using your metric, most Anglos (referring to people from England) are "traitors", considering they have historically married outside of their ethnic group.

    "Alien cultures"...how quaint.

    “As I said, JEB’s statements and actions make his overwhelming worship of all things Hispanic quite plain”

    It’s not overwhelming worship or anything of that nature.

    But it is, as demonstrated by his fondness for Hispanic cosplay:

    Over time, he [JEB Bush] became what Ana Navarro calls “pan-Hispanic,” meaning he speaks Spanish fluently with an accent that’s not detectable as Cuban or Nicaraguan or Mexican,and has an understanding of each specific culture’s idiosyncrasies. Jorge L. Arrizurieta, a Miami businessman and a longtime friend of Jeb’s, calls him a gringo aplatanado, by which he means “the most Latino American you will ever meet.” Arrizurieta told me that Jeb “enjoys all these Cuban gestures and phrases with friends.” He’ll tap his elbow when someone’s being cheap—a gesture that signifies caminando con los codos, or “walking on your elbows,” which saves wear and tear on your shoes.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/06/the-mysterious-columba-bush/392090/#disqus_thread

    “He married her because he was a loser who couldn’t get an Anglo girl.And he has submitted to her alien culture.The man’s a traitor to Anglo-America, pure and simple.”

    Not this again. First, a man or a woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want.

    Of course they do, dear fellow.And JEB’s decision to procreate with a Mexican is quite telling….

    Second, using your metric, most Anglos (referring to people from England)

    I’m referring to people who are culturally Anglo.When I mean people from England, I use English or Anglo-Saxon.Cf the difference between Hispanic and Spaniard.

    are “traitors”, considering they have historically married outside of their ethnic group.

    Last time that I checked, most Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos.And, of course, there is his decision to submit to his wife’s Hispanic culture.

    “Alien cultures”…how quaint.

    How important, dear fellow.The gulf between Edmund Burke and Octavio Paz is wide and deep….

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  138. @anowow
    It is possible to marry someone from a different culture and not be hostile to your own.

    Likewise, it's quite possible, and proven time and again, to marry someone from your own culture or not marry at all, and be hostile. Could you really imagine half of the NPR audience with a wife from the Global South? A few cases, perhaps, but with someone sufficiently clean by whatever rubric Joe Biden was thinking of, and with tenure, serving as the university spokeswoman for people she would never, ever socialize with.

    Someone made the point a long time ago on these threads, the worldview of the managerial classes are not anti-white. They are anti- wrong kind of white people.

    Intermarriage isn't a problem. Universalist utopias, American hubris, greed, Anglo-Saxon ahistoricism and hyper-individualism are. The latter two are, of course, deemed a "good" thing for the masses, if not for the elites- who play a sort of muddled or well-developed long-game (depending on how conspiratorial you are). And Bush scheming, as always, plays a role..

    It is possible to marry someone from a different culture and not be hostile to your own.

    Marriage is war.One side’s culture must submit to the other side.In JEB’s case, he has surrendered to his wife’s Hispanic culture.Hence, he is a traitor to Anglo-America.

    Intermarriage isn’t a problem.

    Yes it is.The surest way to destroy Anglo-America is via intermarriage with Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos.

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    [Marriage is war.]

    Are you speaking from personal experience here?
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  139. @Mr. Anon
    Trump has said he wants to put American soldiers in theatre to defeat ISIS. When it comes to the warfare-state, Trump doesn't appear to be much different from the rest of the Republican field.

    You expect too much. If Trump destroys, or severely damages the rotten corrupt GOP that will suffice for now.

    There will be change in policy until that is done.
    The neocons long march through the Institutions of the Republican Party took decades and will require decades to undo.

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    Yes, I would be happy enough with Trump if he could do some lasting damage to the Republican Party (more than they themselves do to it, that is).
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  140. @syonredux

    It is possible to marry someone from a different culture and not be hostile to your own.
     
    Marriage is war.One side's culture must submit to the other side.In JEB's case, he has surrendered to his wife's Hispanic culture.Hence, he is a traitor to Anglo-America.

    Intermarriage isn’t a problem.
     
    Yes it is.The surest way to destroy Anglo-America is via intermarriage with Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos.

    [Marriage is war.]

    Are you speaking from personal experience here?

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    [Marriage is war.]

    Are you speaking from personal experience here?
     
    Quasi.My mother is Ashkenazi Jewish and my father is English-Scots.Her father (a Latvian Jew) venerated Anglo civilization , and raised my mother to feel the same way.Hence, my mother's decision to marry a WASP.

    On the other hand, I've seen quite a few marriages where the Jewish partner triumphs.

    Only one culture can prevail in a mixed-marriage.
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  141. @Anon
    "Much of the elder Bush’s presidency consisted of reacting to various unexpected developments, such as the decline of the Soviet Union, the invasion of Kuwait, the recession, the Los Angeles riots, and so forth."

    On the Left, there was talk of how the Bush administration had ensnared Hussein into a trap.
    Supposedly, the US ambassador to Iraq gave mixed signals or even suggested that US would not oppose Hussein's move on Kuwait.

    At the time, I didn't believe it. I thought the ambassador was just inept or Hussein interpreted it wrong. I still believed in the US and thought US wouldn't do something do down-and-dirty.
    But when I look at more recent events in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine--and all the lies told by government and served by the media--, I'm having second thoughts about how the Gulf War happened.

    And one thing still sticks in my mind. During the Iran-Iraq War, I recall the US media saw Hussein as 'our man in the middle east, the relatively sane sunni fighting the crazy shias of Iran'.

    George Will wrote a column about how Hussein is worse than Mussolini. What really sticks out is the stridency of the article. Hussein isn't just some bad guy but the Big Bad Wolf, the instigator of a great new conflict after the Cold War... as if US is desperate for a new bogeyman.
    But, but, but... when Hussein was fighting Iran, he was the 'good guy'.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1990/08/03/wolf-out-of-babylon/f700ada2-5ab9-41df-916e-61ba97e3a051/

    Given recent events, I'm convinced people in US government are capable of anything.

    “But, but, but… when Hussein was fighting Iran, he was the ‘good guy’”

    That’s happened a hundred times and more, and will continue to happen. The worst example, and most head-spinning, is the Soviet Union, which went from international pariah to pure evil when it teamed up with the Nazis, to not so bad as the Nazis and an ally of convenience when we started to prop them up after the Nazi invasion, to Our Gallant Ally and partner in future World Peace over the course of the war once the propaganda machine got to work on them, to the new global Public Enemies after the war when we found it convenient to pretend they were about to conquer the world, too. All they had to do with Iraq was turn it from better than Iran to the next most invadable country after Afghanistan.

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  142. @Jefferson
    I bet "Out in the West Texas town of El Paso, I fell in love with a Mexican girl" by Marty Robbins is Jeb Bush's favorite song of all time.

    If Marty Robbins were alive today, he would favor amnesty and open borders. Almost all White guys who have a fetish for Mexican/Latin American women favor amnesty and open borders because they think with their penis rather than with their brain.

    I don’t know much about Marty Robbins personally, though I think he might have been part injun. That song is sung from the perspective of a fictitious character, not Marty himself, and his infatuation doesn’t end well.

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  143. @WhatEvvs
    The Trump bubble will burst, as they all do. Something will happen, a sex tape. I don't know.

    In order for the US to stop the immigrant tide, it would have to become a democratic socialist state and get rid of the artificial borders of states. In fact Trump sort of broached this when he talked about the insurance companies going state by state.

    The US labor market is completely screwed up and inefficient.

    Every day I walk past construction sites, which are now completely staffed by Spanish-speaking men. They are slobs. They operate dangerous equipment and construct scaffolding in a slipshod manner. I walked underneath one the other day, where a guy was barking orders at us pedestrians in some incomprehensible language (not Spanish, I don't even know what it was). We could have been killed, but we kept walking. One day someone will get killed and everyone will jump around for two days and then things will go back to normal.

    I thought, "there must be out of work white (and black) guys in Tennessee or Alabama or New Hampshire who can do these jobs better than these guys who can't even speak English." But they are languishing in their states, living on benefits. An efficient native labor market would pay for these guys to come to the Big City, house them, feed them, pay them, etc.

    In the fracking industry guys live on site in company housing and everything is paid for. It's bleak and they get a little lonely being without family and social contacts, but the work gets done - by Americans. But that's because guys flock to these places. No one is paying for them to go there. We should pay them to go there - and all over the country where there are jobs to be done.

    But that's not the way capitalism works.

    “But that’s not the way capitalism works.”

    That’s exactly the way capitalism works, and we do pay them to go there. They’re called wages.

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  144. @WhatEvvs
    I really don't know where people like you come from. Rude of me to put it that way, but that's how I see it. It's capitalism that sucks in large numbers of disparate peoples to work cheap wages. It's capitalism that is doing so right now, in front of your eyes. Do you really think that capital is doing this at the behest of the Democratic Party hacks?

    Democratic socialists (like Gompers, and the men who created the good old British Labour movement) want a good life for native labor. The old Democratic Party in the US, the one founded by Andrew Jackson - the guys who saw nothing for them in the Civil War.

    The Republican Party was founded by capitalists - free labor capitalists, who wanted to free slave labor to compete with native white labor. I realize that goes against the received wisdom here. That's the one thing I criticize about the 'cuckservative' meme. Cucks have always been at the helm of the GOP. It was foolishness of the white working class ever to think they had anything in common with the GOP leadership.

    The original GOPers were capitalists, yes, but they didn’t believe in “capitalism” the way we usually mean it these days, i.e. free marketism. They were capitalists in the Marxist sense, I suppose. They were mercantilists, protectionists, banksters, in favor of (relatively) Big Government (though nowhere near what even radical antifederalists believe in today), working for the interests of Big Business, etc.

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  145. What a photo. Dear God.

    MEM-reez
    Meesty agua-colored meh-HEM-reez
    Of el way we were.

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  146. @5371
    [Marriage is war.]

    Are you speaking from personal experience here?

    [Marriage is war.]

    Are you speaking from personal experience here?

    Quasi.My mother is Ashkenazi Jewish and my father is English-Scots.Her father (a Latvian Jew) venerated Anglo civilization , and raised my mother to feel the same way.Hence, my mother’s decision to marry a WASP.

    On the other hand, I’ve seen quite a few marriages where the Jewish partner triumphs.

    Only one culture can prevail in a mixed-marriage.

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  147. By far the most dangerous Bush family connection, for America and the world, is with the Saudi royals.

    The Saudi royals are are also tight with Big Jew Zionists.

    It just get worse and worse. It is time for all these evil connections to be put down.

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  148. @Jefferson
    I bet "Out in the West Texas town of El Paso, I fell in love with a Mexican girl" by Marty Robbins is Jeb Bush's favorite song of all time.

    If Marty Robbins were alive today, he would favor amnesty and open borders. Almost all White guys who have a fetish for Mexican/Latin American women favor amnesty and open borders because they think with their penis rather than with their brain.

    Maybe the Beach Boys’ “Mexican Girl” is Jeb’s favorite:

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  149. @rod1963
    It goes to show you, that no country should trust the U.S. government and it's minions. They will use you and then betray you.

    Our leaders make Putin look like a choir boy with their rampant sociopathy and neoliberal economics agenda.

    Yes look at our foreign policy in the ME. Before Bush came in, it was relatively stable and full of secular regimes that kept a lid on the fanatics.

    Well around that time our principal adversary collapsed (Soviet Union) so we needed a new boogey man. Our old ally Saddam fit the bill quite nicely when we green lighted his attack on Kuwait then we attacked him. The old man did everything to placate the U.S. over something he considered a local matter.

    It was a quick and easy win for our roided up military. Gave a big boost to a moribund GOP. His son finished off Iraq and turned it into a Shia theocracy. He used Georgia to start a suicidal war with Russia over Ossetia and funded various color revolutions all over the old Soviet union to install puppet regimes loyal to us.

    Obama following in Bush's footsteps ruined Syria, destroyed Libya both of which are now terrorist havens. He got rid of Mubarack and tried to install a bloodthirsty fanatic. Yemen collapsed, Turkey has went over to ISIS's side.

    One could say we manufactured our enemies. Look at all the nice new American weapons, vehicles and gear ISIS has, not to mention being trained by our Special Ops.

    Oh yeah he toppled the Ukrainian government and even attempted to formant opposition to Putin. And now our military is training Neo-Nazis in Western Ukraine.

    What a gag fest of evil.

    Brilliant comment, in every detail. Though I have suspicions that nothing that happens in Egypt can be significantly influenced by the United States -too many people, too little land, not enough territory-holding militants.

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  150. “The Bushes were simply astute enough to see the synergies that would result from political office and simultaneous close ties to Big Banking. This is a dangerous incestuous arrangement.”

    So, Epaminondas, any solutuions? Because this is how capitalism operates.

    “But it is, as demonstrated by his fondness for Hispanic cosplay”

    Now you’re backtracking from your earlier characterization. Smart on your part.

    “And JEB’s decision to procreate with a Mexican is quite telling…”

    Telling that he loves a woman who just happens to be from a different country.

    “I’m referring to people who are culturally Anglo.”

    You’re backtracking again.. Those who are “culturally Anglo” speak English and were directly influenced by British culture and the British Empire. As I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    “Last time that I checked, most Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    By the mid-1890’s, almost every Californio family had daughters and occasionally sons who had married Americans–Mongrels, Bastards, Orphans, And Vagabonds: Mexican Immigration And The Future Of Race In America, Gregory Rodriguez

    Californio refers to mestizos. Of course, this term is not in common popular use by Americans, unless one is a race baiter. The word is Hispanic.

    “The gulf between Edmund Burke and Octavio Paz is wide and deep…”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    “Marriage is war. One side’s culture must submit to the other side.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    “In JEB’s case, he has surrendered to his wife’s Hispanic culture.”

    There is no surrender here. It is merely respecting one’s traditions and embracing them.

    “Hence, he is a traitor to Anglo-America.”

    Again, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” by turning their backs on their own ethnic group/culture by mixing with other ethnic groups/cultures.

    “The surest way to destroy Anglo-America is via intermarriage with Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    Well, you had just admitted that a man or woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want. That is NOT destruction, it’s called union.

    “Only one culture can prevail in a mixed-marriage.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

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    “But it is, as demonstrated by his fondness for Hispanic cosplay”

    Now you’re backtracking from your earlier characterization. Smart on your part.
     

    Who's backtracking, dear fellow? Obviously, JEB can't actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.But he's very sincere in his performance.

    “And JEB’s decision to procreate with a Mexican is quite telling…”

    Telling that he loves a woman who just happens to be from a different country.
     

    Hardly, dear fellow; he loves her because she is from another country

    “I’m referring to people who are culturally Anglo.”

    You’re backtracking again.. Those who are “culturally Anglo” speak English and were directly influenced by British culture and the British Empire. As I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.
     

    Again, dear fellow, that's only if they submit to their spouses.

    “Last time that I checked, most Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    By the mid-1890’s, almost every Californio family had daughters and occasionally sons who had married Americans–Mongrels, Bastards, Orphans, And Vagabonds: Mexican Immigration And The Future Of Race In America, Gregory Rodriguez
     

    Which means that most Californios had married Anglos, dear fellow.There were vastly more Anglos than Hispanic Mestizos in 19th century CA...

    Californio refers to mestizos. Of course, this term is not in common popular use by Americans, unless one is a race baiter. The word is Hispanic.
     
    MMMM, I thought that Latino was the PC phrase....

    “The gulf between Edmund Burke and Octavio Paz is wide and deep…”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.
     

    Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions, dear fellow

    “Marriage is war. One side’s culture must submit to the other side.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.
     

    MMM.Cut.Paste:Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions, dear fellow

    “In JEB’s case, he has surrendered to his wife’s Hispanic culture.”

    There is no surrender here. It is merely respecting one’s traditions and embracing them.
     

    Of course, he's actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them....Which is the truest sign of surrender

    “Hence, he is a traitor to Anglo-America.”

    Again, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” by turning their backs on their own ethnic group/culture by mixing with other ethnic groups/cultures.
     

    Not if the non-Anglo spouse submits to Anglo culture, dear fellow

    “The surest way to destroy Anglo-America is via intermarriage with Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    Well, you had just admitted that a man or woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want.
     

    Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn't mean that they should exercise it.People have the right to smoke in their own homes.That doesn't mean that they should do it.

    That is NOT destruction, it’s called union.
     
    It's both, dear fellow.It's a union that leads to the obliteration of Anglo-America.So long, Shakespeare, farewell Melville.

    “Only one culture can prevail in a mixed-marriage.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.
     

    MMM.Cut.Paste:Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions, dear fellow
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  151. @Bill Jones
    You expect too much. If Trump destroys, or severely damages the rotten corrupt GOP that will suffice for now.

    There will be change in policy until that is done.
    The neocons long march through the Institutions of the Republican Party took decades and will require decades to undo.

    Yes, I would be happy enough with Trump if he could do some lasting damage to the Republican Party (more than they themselves do to it, that is).

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  152. @Corvinus
    “The Bushes were simply astute enough to see the synergies that would result from political office and simultaneous close ties to Big Banking. This is a dangerous incestuous arrangement.”

    So, Epaminondas, any solutuions? Because this is how capitalism operates.


    “But it is, as demonstrated by his fondness for Hispanic cosplay”

    Now you’re backtracking from your earlier characterization. Smart on your part.


    “And JEB’s decision to procreate with a Mexican is quite telling...”

    Telling that he loves a woman who just happens to be from a different country.


    “I’m referring to people who are culturally Anglo.”

    You’re backtracking again.. Those who are “culturally Anglo” speak English and were directly influenced by British culture and the British Empire. As I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    “Last time that I checked, most Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    By the mid-1890’s, almost every Californio family had daughters and occasionally sons who had married Americans--Mongrels, Bastards, Orphans, And Vagabonds: Mexican Immigration And The Future Of Race In America, Gregory Rodriguez

    Californio refers to mestizos. Of course, this term is not in common popular use by Americans, unless one is a race baiter. The word is Hispanic.

    “The gulf between Edmund Burke and Octavio Paz is wide and deep...”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    “Marriage is war. One side’s culture must submit to the other side.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    “In JEB’s case, he has surrendered to his wife’s Hispanic culture.”

    There is no surrender here. It is merely respecting one’s traditions and embracing them.

    “Hence, he is a traitor to Anglo-America.”

    Again, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” by turning their backs on their own ethnic group/culture by mixing with other ethnic groups/cultures.

    “The surest way to destroy Anglo-America is via intermarriage with Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    Well, you had just admitted that a man or woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want. That is NOT destruction, it’s called union.

    “Only one culture can prevail in a mixed-marriage.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    “But it is, as demonstrated by his fondness for Hispanic cosplay”

    Now you’re backtracking from your earlier characterization. Smart on your part.

    Who’s backtracking, dear fellow? Obviously, JEB can’t actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.But he’s very sincere in his performance.

    “And JEB’s decision to procreate with a Mexican is quite telling…”

    Telling that he loves a woman who just happens to be from a different country.

    Hardly, dear fellow; he loves her because she is from another country

    “I’m referring to people who are culturally Anglo.”

    You’re backtracking again.. Those who are “culturally Anglo” speak English and were directly influenced by British culture and the British Empire. As I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    Again, dear fellow, that’s only if they submit to their spouses.

    “Last time that I checked, most Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    By the mid-1890’s, almost every Californio family had daughters and occasionally sons who had married Americans–Mongrels, Bastards, Orphans, And Vagabonds: Mexican Immigration And The Future Of Race In America, Gregory Rodriguez

    Which means that most Californios had married Anglos, dear fellow.There were vastly more Anglos than Hispanic Mestizos in 19th century CA…

    Californio refers to mestizos. Of course, this term is not in common popular use by Americans, unless one is a race baiter. The word is Hispanic.

    MMMM, I thought that Latino was the PC phrase….

    “The gulf between Edmund Burke and Octavio Paz is wide and deep…”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions, dear fellow

    “Marriage is war. One side’s culture must submit to the other side.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    MMM.Cut.Paste:Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions, dear fellow

    “In JEB’s case, he has surrendered to his wife’s Hispanic culture.”

    There is no surrender here. It is merely respecting one’s traditions and embracing them.

    Of course, he’s actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them….Which is the truest sign of surrender

    “Hence, he is a traitor to Anglo-America.”

    Again, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” by turning their backs on their own ethnic group/culture by mixing with other ethnic groups/cultures.

    Not if the non-Anglo spouse submits to Anglo culture, dear fellow

    “The surest way to destroy Anglo-America is via intermarriage with Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos.”

    Well, you had just admitted that a man or woman has the liberty to marry and/or procreate with whomever they want.

    Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn’t mean that they should exercise it.People have the right to smoke in their own homes.That doesn’t mean that they should do it.

    That is NOT destruction, it’s called union.

    It’s both, dear fellow.It’s a union that leads to the obliteration of Anglo-America.So long, Shakespeare, farewell Melville.

    “Only one culture can prevail in a mixed-marriage.”

    An elitist opinion, not fact.

    MMM.Cut.Paste:Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions, dear fellow

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  153. @syonredux

    Jeb was the one who, when the Bush boys were growing up, was considered the smartest.
     
    Yeah, but as I pointed out upthread, he's simply far too uxorious to be Michael.

    Wife-doting, or lack thereof, was not factored into my analogy.

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    Wife-doting, or lack thereof, was not factored into my analogy.
     
    In the case of JEB, it has to be; uxoriousness is a key element in his character
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  154. @rod1963
    It goes to show you, that no country should trust the U.S. government and it's minions. They will use you and then betray you.

    Our leaders make Putin look like a choir boy with their rampant sociopathy and neoliberal economics agenda.

    Yes look at our foreign policy in the ME. Before Bush came in, it was relatively stable and full of secular regimes that kept a lid on the fanatics.

    Well around that time our principal adversary collapsed (Soviet Union) so we needed a new boogey man. Our old ally Saddam fit the bill quite nicely when we green lighted his attack on Kuwait then we attacked him. The old man did everything to placate the U.S. over something he considered a local matter.

    It was a quick and easy win for our roided up military. Gave a big boost to a moribund GOP. His son finished off Iraq and turned it into a Shia theocracy. He used Georgia to start a suicidal war with Russia over Ossetia and funded various color revolutions all over the old Soviet union to install puppet regimes loyal to us.

    Obama following in Bush's footsteps ruined Syria, destroyed Libya both of which are now terrorist havens. He got rid of Mubarack and tried to install a bloodthirsty fanatic. Yemen collapsed, Turkey has went over to ISIS's side.

    One could say we manufactured our enemies. Look at all the nice new American weapons, vehicles and gear ISIS has, not to mention being trained by our Special Ops.

    Oh yeah he toppled the Ukrainian government and even attempted to formant opposition to Putin. And now our military is training Neo-Nazis in Western Ukraine.

    What a gag fest of evil.

    The single most politically – and morally – astute reply on this thread. Well done!

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  155. @Ronald Thomas West
    Pretty tame stuff on the most criminal clan in USA history:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/cia-drugs/conversations/topics/39736

    How about the tendency of people to drop dead rather than allowed to compromise (in this case the Jeb) Bush criminal history?

    When it comes to the Clintons and/or the Bushes, just wave hello from a safe distance, as close proximity to either is a known health hazard.

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  156. “Obviously, JEB can’t actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.”

    So you go from to fondness for Hispanic cosplay to playing the part. Not consistent in your characterization, which was inherently flawed in the first place. JEB is a white American who married someone outside of his ethnic group. So, as I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    “he loves her because she is from another country”

    Jeb loves her because she is a woman and because it is “good for family business”.

    “Which means that most Californios had married Anglos”

    
Meaning that Anglos had indeed, historically speaking, intermarried with “Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos”.

    “Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions.”

    
The masses historically rarely take kindly to elitist opinions, as evident by the current “cuckservative” meme. 

Now, if we do employ your metric, that would mean you wholeheartedly support Obama Administration’s policies which, considered by Steve Sailer etc., are elitist opinions. Care to backtrack yet again?

    “he’s actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them….Which is the truest sign of surrender.”

    
You have an odd way of using “surrender” in this context.

    “Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn’t mean that they should exercise it.”

    Then it’s not a right if one ought not to exercise it. Why are you against liberty?

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    “Obviously, JEB can’t actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.”

    So you go from to fondness for Hispanic cosplay to playing the part.
     
    Dear fellow, cosplay is playing a part.I'm afraid that you are starting to sound a tad autistic....

    Not consistent in your characterization,
     
    It's quite consistent, dear fellow.....

    which was inherently flawed in the first place. JEB is a white American who married someone outside of his ethnic group. So, as I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.
     
    Dear fellow, most Anglos marry other Anglos.Please recall, Anglo is a cultural designation.For example, my mother is Ashkenazi in terms of genes, but Anglo in terms of culture.Hence, her marriage to my father (English-Scots) was an intra-Anglo marriage.

    JEB, in contrast, chose to marry a Mexican Hispanic, and then capitulated to her alien culture

    “he loves her because she is from another country”

    Jeb loves her because she is a woman and because it is “good for family business”.
     
    No, he loves her because she is a Hispanic women.And marrying her was not good for the family business.Had the family business been on his mind, he would have married a woman from the Mexican elite.

    “Which means that most Californios had married Anglos”

    
Meaning that Anglos had indeed, historically speaking, intermarried with “Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos”.
     
    Dear fellow, do the mathematics. Anglos far outnumbered Californios in CA.hence, the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo.

    “Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions.”

    
The masses historically rarely take kindly to elitist opinions, as evident by the current “cuckservative” meme.
     
    Dear fellow, the masses blindly follow.That's why they are the masses.

    

Now, if we do employ your metric, that would mean you wholeheartedly support Obama Administration’s policies which, considered by Steve Sailer etc., are elitist opinions. Care to backtrack yet again?
     
    Dear fellow, there are elites and then they are elites....I choose to follow a vanquished elite system of thought.

    “he’s actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them….Which is the truest sign of surrender.”

    
You have an odd way of using “surrender” in this context.
     
    No, it's the correct understanding.In a marriage, one culture wins and the other culture loses.So hath it ever been.

    “Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn’t mean that they should exercise it.”

    Then it’s not a right if one ought not to exercise it. Why are you against liberty?
     
    Dear fellow, you seem to be confusing liberty with compulsion. Simply because someone has the right do do a thing does not mean that he should do it.As noted upthread, I have the right to smoke in my own home, but that doesn't mean that I have to smoke.
    , @syonredux
    At any rate, dear fellow, JEB Bush's dream of a Mexicanized USA is a fait acompli

    The Hispanic population is expected to reach about 106 million in 2050, about double what it is today, according to new U.S. Census Bureau population projections.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/16/with-fewer-new-arrivals-census-lowers-hispanic-population-projections-2/

    Anglo-America is already dead.
    , @syonredux
    I wonder....1607 is a convenient date for marking the birth of Anglo-America, but what date marks her death, the point at which Hispanicization became irreversible?
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  157. @njguy73
    Wife-doting, or lack thereof, was not factored into my analogy.

    Wife-doting, or lack thereof, was not factored into my analogy.

    In the case of JEB, it has to be; uxoriousness is a key element in his character

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  158. @Corvinus
    “Obviously, JEB can’t actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.”

    So you go from to fondness for Hispanic cosplay to playing the part. Not consistent in your characterization, which was inherently flawed in the first place. JEB is a white American who married someone outside of his ethnic group. So, as I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    “he loves her because she is from another country”

    Jeb loves her because she is a woman and because it is “good for family business”.

    “Which means that most Californios had married Anglos”

    
Meaning that Anglos had indeed, historically speaking, intermarried with “Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos”.

    “Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions.”

    
The masses historically rarely take kindly to elitist opinions, as evident by the current “cuckservative” meme. 

Now, if we do employ your metric, that would mean you wholeheartedly support Obama Administration’s policies which, considered by Steve Sailer etc., are elitist opinions. Care to backtrack yet again?

    “he’s actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them….Which is the truest sign of surrender.”

    
You have an odd way of using “surrender” in this context.

    “Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn’t mean that they should exercise it.”

    Then it’s not a right if one ought not to exercise it. Why are you against liberty?

    “Obviously, JEB can’t actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.”

    So you go from to fondness for Hispanic cosplay to playing the part.

    Dear fellow, cosplay is playing a part.I’m afraid that you are starting to sound a tad autistic….

    Not consistent in your characterization,

    It’s quite consistent, dear fellow…..

    which was inherently flawed in the first place. JEB is a white American who married someone outside of his ethnic group. So, as I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    Dear fellow, most Anglos marry other Anglos.Please recall, Anglo is a cultural designation.For example, my mother is Ashkenazi in terms of genes, but Anglo in terms of culture.Hence, her marriage to my father (English-Scots) was an intra-Anglo marriage.

    JEB, in contrast, chose to marry a Mexican Hispanic, and then capitulated to her alien culture

    “he loves her because she is from another country”

    Jeb loves her because she is a woman and because it is “good for family business”.

    No, he loves her because she is a Hispanic women.And marrying her was not good for the family business.Had the family business been on his mind, he would have married a woman from the Mexican elite.

    “Which means that most Californios had married Anglos”

    
Meaning that Anglos had indeed, historically speaking, intermarried with “Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos”.

    Dear fellow, do the mathematics. Anglos far outnumbered Californios in CA.hence, the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo.

    “Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions.”

    
The masses historically rarely take kindly to elitist opinions, as evident by the current “cuckservative” meme.

    Dear fellow, the masses blindly follow.That’s why they are the masses.

    

Now, if we do employ your metric, that would mean you wholeheartedly support Obama Administration’s policies which, considered by Steve Sailer etc., are elitist opinions. Care to backtrack yet again?

    Dear fellow, there are elites and then they are elites….I choose to follow a vanquished elite system of thought.

    “he’s actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them….Which is the truest sign of surrender.”

    
You have an odd way of using “surrender” in this context.

    No, it’s the correct understanding.In a marriage, one culture wins and the other culture loses.So hath it ever been.

    “Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn’t mean that they should exercise it.”

    Then it’s not a right if one ought not to exercise it. Why are you against liberty?

    Dear fellow, you seem to be confusing liberty with compulsion. Simply because someone has the right do do a thing does not mean that he should do it.As noted upthread, I have the right to smoke in my own home, but that doesn’t mean that I have to smoke.

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  159. @Corvinus
    “Obviously, JEB can’t actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.”

    So you go from to fondness for Hispanic cosplay to playing the part. Not consistent in your characterization, which was inherently flawed in the first place. JEB is a white American who married someone outside of his ethnic group. So, as I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    “he loves her because she is from another country”

    Jeb loves her because she is a woman and because it is “good for family business”.

    “Which means that most Californios had married Anglos”

    
Meaning that Anglos had indeed, historically speaking, intermarried with “Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos”.

    “Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions.”

    
The masses historically rarely take kindly to elitist opinions, as evident by the current “cuckservative” meme. 

Now, if we do employ your metric, that would mean you wholeheartedly support Obama Administration’s policies which, considered by Steve Sailer etc., are elitist opinions. Care to backtrack yet again?

    “he’s actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them….Which is the truest sign of surrender.”

    
You have an odd way of using “surrender” in this context.

    “Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn’t mean that they should exercise it.”

    Then it’s not a right if one ought not to exercise it. Why are you against liberty?

    At any rate, dear fellow, JEB Bush’s dream of a Mexicanized USA is a fait acompli

    The Hispanic population is expected to reach about 106 million in 2050, about double what it is today, according to new U.S. Census Bureau population projections.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/16/with-fewer-new-arrivals-census-lowers-hispanic-population-projections-2/

    Anglo-America is already dead.

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    At any rate, dear fellow, JEB Bush’s dream of a Mexicanized USA is a fait accompli*

    The Hispanic population is expected to reach about 106 million in 2050, about double what it is today, according to new U.S. Census Bureau population projections.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/16/with-fewer-new-arrivals-census-lowers-hispanic-population-projections-2/

    Anglo-America is already dead.

    *corrected a typo
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  160. @syonredux
    At any rate, dear fellow, JEB Bush's dream of a Mexicanized USA is a fait acompli

    The Hispanic population is expected to reach about 106 million in 2050, about double what it is today, according to new U.S. Census Bureau population projections.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/16/with-fewer-new-arrivals-census-lowers-hispanic-population-projections-2/

    Anglo-America is already dead.

    At any rate, dear fellow, JEB Bush’s dream of a Mexicanized USA is a fait accompli*

    The Hispanic population is expected to reach about 106 million in 2050, about double what it is today, according to new U.S. Census Bureau population projections.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/16/with-fewer-new-arrivals-census-lowers-hispanic-population-projections-2/

    Anglo-America is already dead.

    *corrected a typo

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  161. @Corvinus
    “Obviously, JEB can’t actually become a Hispanic Mestizo.Hence, he can only play the part.”

    So you go from to fondness for Hispanic cosplay to playing the part. Not consistent in your characterization, which was inherently flawed in the first place. JEB is a white American who married someone outside of his ethnic group. So, as I corrected stated, using your metric, most Anglos are “traitors” because they have willfully chosen to marry and procreate with someone other than their fellow Anglo.

    “he loves her because she is from another country”

    Jeb loves her because she is a woman and because it is “good for family business”.

    “Which means that most Californios had married Anglos”

    
Meaning that Anglos had indeed, historically speaking, intermarried with “Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos”.

    “Elitist opinions are the best kind of opinions.”

    
The masses historically rarely take kindly to elitist opinions, as evident by the current “cuckservative” meme. 

Now, if we do employ your metric, that would mean you wholeheartedly support Obama Administration’s policies which, considered by Steve Sailer etc., are elitist opinions. Care to backtrack yet again?

    “he’s actually respecting her Hispanic traditions and embracing them….Which is the truest sign of surrender.”

    
You have an odd way of using “surrender” in this context.

    “Of course they have the right, dear fellow.That doesn’t mean that they should exercise it.”

    Then it’s not a right if one ought not to exercise it. Why are you against liberty?

    I wonder….1607 is a convenient date for marking the birth of Anglo-America, but what date marks her death, the point at which Hispanicization became irreversible?

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    Just to get the ball rolling ......

    1943 - Zoot suit riots in LA

    1946 - First Taco Bell opens

    October 15, 1951 - "I Love Lucy" premieres

    July 4, 1969 - Caesar Chavez on the cover of TIME magazine

    June 7, 2005 - US Congress resolution urging the POTUS to proclaim Cinco de Mayo

    September 28, 2006 - "Ugly Betty" premieres

    Of course, one can be tongue in cheek, serious, or semi-serious about this.

    I can recall watching a "Dragnet" episode from as early as 1952 where Joe Friday was interrogating a witness who only spoke Spanish so this long convo takes place between the Latina and Friday's sidekick whose "high school Spanish" was pretty good, given the circumstances.

    Irreversible? Probably when the Anglo birth rate fell below replacement, I don't know when that happened. Some might point to the Immigration Law of 1965, but that's obviously not pertinent to this, because undocumented Hispanics have been crossing the border forever. The only real difference is that at some point they stopped going back home after harvest and decided to stay.
    I don't know when that happened. In retrospect I suppose the 1986 amnesty (November 6, 1986) was the moment when the United States more or less quit the field and conceded defeat.
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  162. @syonredux
    I wonder....1607 is a convenient date for marking the birth of Anglo-America, but what date marks her death, the point at which Hispanicization became irreversible?

    Just to get the ball rolling ……

    1943 – Zoot suit riots in LA

    1946 – First Taco Bell opens

    October 15, 1951 – “I Love Lucy” premieres

    July 4, 1969 – Caesar Chavez on the cover of TIME magazine

    June 7, 2005 – US Congress resolution urging the POTUS to proclaim Cinco de Mayo

    September 28, 2006 – “Ugly Betty” premieres

    Of course, one can be tongue in cheek, serious, or semi-serious about this.

    I can recall watching a “Dragnet” episode from as early as 1952 where Joe Friday was interrogating a witness who only spoke Spanish so this long convo takes place between the Latina and Friday’s sidekick whose “high school Spanish” was pretty good, given the circumstances.

    Irreversible? Probably when the Anglo birth rate fell below replacement, I don’t know when that happened. Some might point to the Immigration Law of 1965, but that’s obviously not pertinent to this, because undocumented Hispanics have been crossing the border forever. The only real difference is that at some point they stopped going back home after harvest and decided to stay.
    I don’t know when that happened. In retrospect I suppose the 1986 amnesty (November 6, 1986) was the moment when the United States more or less quit the field and conceded defeat.

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  163. “Dear fellow, most Anglos marry other Anglos.”

    On one hand, yes. Anglos, or those of British Isles descent, do marry other Anglos.
    On the other hand, no. Germans are not Anglos. Italians are not Anglos. Anglo-America refers to English as the main language, i.e. linguistics. That is the cultural part you are referring to. Anglo by itself refers to specifically as those people who originated from the British Isles–an ethnic group–in a historical context. You are twisting meanings to suit your narrative.

    “For example, my mother is Ashkenazi in terms of genes, but Anglo in terms of culture.Hence, her marriage to my father (English-Scots) was an intra-Anglo marriage.”

    

No, it was not inter-Anglo marriage, since your mother’s ethnicity is Jewish. She married outside of her ethnicity, an English man. Your father is a traitor. Sorry :(

    “JEB, in contrast, chose to marry a Mexican Hispanic, and then capitulated to her alien culture.”

    Again, there is no capitulating to anything. Don’t be obtuse.

    “No, he loves her because she is a Hispanic women.”

    Jeb loves his wife because she is a woman who happens to be Hispanic, similar to your father, an Anglo, who married outside of his ethnicity, a Jew.

    “Anglos far outnumbered Californios in CA.hence, the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo.”

    So, you go from saying that “Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos” to “the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo” using Anglo exclusively as a cultural reference rather than referring to Anglo as an ethnic group who speaks English. Interesting, to say the least.

    “Dear fellow, there are elites and then they are elites….I choose to follow a vanquished elite system of thought.”

    
No, there are elites, period. Again, employing your metric means you, as an elitist, support Obama, who is also an elitist. There is no distinction here. Keep doubling down, it is entertaining.

    “No, it’s the correct understanding.In a marriage, one culture wins and the other culture loses.”

    It’s an understanding and an opinion. That’s it.

    “Simply because someone has the right do do a thing does not mean that he should do it.”

    
A person has the liberty to marry and procreate with whomever they please. By not doing it merely because someone says they should not do it, then it is not a liberty at all. It is rendered impotent. I have the right to smoke in my house, but that doesn’t mean I have to smoke, but of my own volition, I choose to smoke. You can tell me that I should not smoke, that it is bad for my health. But, ultimately, I have the liberty to do it, realizing the consequence that I may become sick. In the end, I am exercising that liberty.

    Now, your argument rests on the false notion that intermarriage destroys a country. Millions of Americans from different ethnic groups and racial groups have married and raised children. It’s not a taboo, it’s not to the detriment of a country, it’s a fundamental liberty.

    Think what you want, but your pouting isn’t going to change anything.

    “Anglo-America is already dead.”

    

Angl0-America died in 1776. We live in what is called America, who’s culture and society is called American.

    “Probably when the Anglo birth rate fell below replacement…”

    You can blame the English for losing the Revolutionary War when Anglo-America died. Oh, well, SPMoore8. Sucks to be you.

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    “Dear fellow, most Anglos marry other Anglos.”

    On one hand, yes. Anglos, or those of British Isles descent, do marry other Anglos.
    On the other hand, no. Germans are not Anglos. Italians are not Anglos. Anglo-America refers to English as the main language, i.e. linguistics. That is the cultural part you are referring to. Anglo by itself refers to specifically as those people who originated from the British Isles–an ethnic group–in a historical context. You are twisting meanings to suit your narrative.
     

    Dear fellow, Anglo has a more expansive definition these days:

    Replenishing the Earth: The Settler Revolution and the Rise of the Anglo world, 1783-1939

    http://www.amazon.com/Replenishing-Earth-Revolution-Angloworld-1783-1939/dp/0199297274

    Hence, when I say Anglo I am referring to culture.When I want to refer to race, I use words like Anglo-Saxon and English.It's quite simple, really.


    “For example, my mother is Ashkenazi in terms of genes, but Anglo in terms of culture.Hence, her marriage to my father (English-Scots) was an intra-Anglo marriage.”

    

No, it was not inter-Anglo marriage, since your mother’s ethnicity is Jewish. She married outside of her ethnicity, an English man. Your father is a traitor. Sorry :(
     

    I'm sorry, dear fellow; it was intra-Anglo.The complete opposite of JEB Bush's traitorous marriage.I'm living proof of the difference.

    “JEB, in contrast, chose to marry a Mexican Hispanic, and then capitulated to her alien culture.”

    Again, there is no capitulating to anything. Don’t be obtuse.
     

    Of course there is, dear fellow.JEB has admitted that he has submitted to her culture.

    “No, he loves her because she is a Hispanic women.”

    Jeb loves his wife because she is a woman who happens to be Hispanic, similar to your father, an Anglo, who married outside of his ethnicity, a Jew.
     

    Other way round, dear fellow.JEB is like my mother, who married my father because he is a WASP.She dearly wanted her children to have English blood in their veins.
    .

    “Anglos far outnumbered Californios in CA.hence, the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo.”

    So, you go from saying that “Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos” to “the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo” using Anglo exclusively as a cultural reference rather than referring to Anglo as an ethnic group who speaks English. Interesting, to say the least.
     

    Quite consistent, dear fellow.I use Anglo in precisely the same way that I use Hispanic.

    “Dear fellow, there are elites and then they are elites….I choose to follow a vanquished elite system of thought.”

    
No, there are elites, period. Again, employing your metric means you, as an elitist, support Obama, who is also an elitist. There is no distinction here. Keep doubling down, it is entertaining.
     

    No, I'm afraid that I, as a true Conservative , am a devotee of the old ways

    “No, it’s the correct understanding.In a marriage, one culture wins and the other culture loses.”

    It’s an understanding and an opinion. That’s it.
     

    A true opinion.One culture wins, the other loses.

    “Simply because someone has the right do do a thing does not mean that he should do it.”

    
A person has the liberty to marry and procreate with whomever they please. By not doing it merely because someone says they should not do it, then it is not a liberty at all. It is rendered impotent. I have the right to smoke in my house, but that doesn’t mean I have to smoke, but of my own volition, I choose to smoke. You can tell me that I should not smoke, that it is bad for my health. But, ultimately, I have the liberty to do it, realizing the consequence that I may become sick. In the end, I am exercising that liberty.
     

    Dear fellow, I'm afraid that you are gibbering. Anglos have the liberty to marry Hispanic Mestizos, but it's a really bad idea, for rather obvious reasons:


    “Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices test was administered to a representative sample of 920 white, Mestizo and Native Mexican Indian children aged 7–10 years in Mexico. The mean IQs in relation to a British mean of 100 obtained from the 1979 British standardization sample and adjusted for the estimated subsequent increase were: 98·0 for whites, 94·3 for Mestizos and 83·3 for Native Mexican Indians.”

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=266611

    And then let’s compare this to the racial composition of Mexico:

    98.0: Mexican Whites
    94.3:Mexican Mestizos
    83.3: Mexican Amerinds

    According to the CIA FACTBOOK, Mexico’s racial breakdown is:mestizo (Amerindian-Spanish) 60%, Amerindian or predominantly Amerindian 30%, white 9%, other 1%

    Things are not looking good Mexico way…..

    Now, let’s turn to real world achievements.Mexico and the Nobel prize. According to WIKIPEDIA, three people of Mexican origins have won a Nobel:

    Alfonso García Robles: With Alva Myrdal, got the Peace Prize in 1982. For what it’s worth, he looks very White in his WIKIPEDIA photo.

    Mario J. Molina: Along with Paul J. Crutzen and F. Sherwood Rowland, he got the 1995 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for studying the threat posed to the ozone layer by CFCs. Looks pretty White in his WIKIPEDIA photo.

    Octavio Paz: 1990 Nobel in Lit. Based on WIKIPEDIA photo, he might have some Amerind ancestry (or he might not).


    So, Three prizes. Total. As compared to 10 for Scotland, 15 for Australia, 23 for Canada, 74 for England , 306 for the USA, …..

    Now, all of these figures are from WIKIPEDIA, so I’m sure that one could argue about the margins…but the overall portrait of Mexican achievement is pretty dire.

    How about Fields Medalists?:

    United States 12

    France 10

    Soviet Union (3) / Russia (6) 9

    United Kingdom 7

    Japan 3
    Belgium 2

    West Germany (1) / Germany (0) 1

    Australia 1

    British Hong Kong 1

    Finland 1

    Israel 1

    Italy 1

    Norway 1

    New Zealand 1

    Sweden 1

    Vietnam 1

    Iran 1

    Brazil 1


    (None Stateless) 1

    I’ve left out Manjul Bhargava. His background is complicated.

    So, Mexico has zero.Hell, all of Latin America has exactly one, which ties them with New Zealand.

    Race creates the foundation upon which culture is built.Mexico’s racial mix produces mediocrity.In contrast, America’s overwhelming European racial stock allowed her to thrive.Mass immigration by Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos is changing that.Soon, the USA will be as mediocre as Mexico.


    Now, your argument rests on the false notion that intermarriage destroys a country. Millions of Americans from different ethnic groups and racial groups have married and raised children.
     
    And most of the Europeans have married fellow Europeans.And the Europeans have been, for the most part, converted to Anglo culture.

    It’s not a taboo, it’s not to the detriment of a country, it’s a fundamental liberty.
     
    It is a detriment if the people in question are Hispanic Amerinds....

    As for the right to marry being fundamental, again, that has no bearing on whether Anglos should marry Hispanic Mestizos.For the good of the country, they should not.


    Think what you want, but your pouting isn’t going to change anything.
     
    That is entirely correct.As I pointed out upthread, Anglo-America is dead.The culture that produced Thomas Edison, the Wright Bros, William James, Thomas Hunt Morgan, Hubble, Josiah Willard Gibbs, William Faulkner, Hawthorne, Willa Cather, Emily Dickinson, Benjamin Franklin, etc, is dead.In its place, Mexican mediocrity reigns.
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  164. @Corvinus
    “Dear fellow, most Anglos marry other Anglos.”

    On one hand, yes. Anglos, or those of British Isles descent, do marry other Anglos.
    On the other hand, no. Germans are not Anglos. Italians are not Anglos. Anglo-America refers to English as the main language, i.e. linguistics. That is the cultural part you are referring to. Anglo by itself refers to specifically as those people who originated from the British Isles--an ethnic group--in a historical context. You are twisting meanings to suit your narrative.

    “For example, my mother is Ashkenazi in terms of genes, but Anglo in terms of culture.Hence, her marriage to my father (English-Scots) was an intra-Anglo marriage.”

    

No, it was not inter-Anglo marriage, since your mother’s ethnicity is Jewish. She married outside of her ethnicity, an English man. Your father is a traitor. Sorry :(

    “JEB, in contrast, chose to marry a Mexican Hispanic, and then capitulated to her alien culture.”

    Again, there is no capitulating to anything. Don’t be obtuse.

    “No, he loves her because she is a Hispanic women.”

    Jeb loves his wife because she is a woman who happens to be Hispanic, similar to your father, an Anglo, who married outside of his ethnicity, a Jew.

    “Anglos far outnumbered Californios in CA.hence, the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo.”

    So, you go from saying that “Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos” to “the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo” using Anglo exclusively as a cultural reference rather than referring to Anglo as an ethnic group who speaks English. Interesting, to say the least.


    “Dear fellow, there are elites and then they are elites….I choose to follow a vanquished elite system of thought.”

    
No, there are elites, period. Again, employing your metric means you, as an elitist, support Obama, who is also an elitist. There is no distinction here. Keep doubling down, it is entertaining.

    “No, it’s the correct understanding.In a marriage, one culture wins and the other culture loses.”

    It’s an understanding and an opinion. That's it.

    “Simply because someone has the right do do a thing does not mean that he should do it.”

    
A person has the liberty to marry and procreate with whomever they please. By not doing it merely because someone says they should not do it, then it is not a liberty at all. It is rendered impotent. I have the right to smoke in my house, but that doesn’t mean I have to smoke, but of my own volition, I choose to smoke. You can tell me that I should not smoke, that it is bad for my health. But, ultimately, I have the liberty to do it, realizing the consequence that I may become sick. In the end, I am exercising that liberty.

    Now, your argument rests on the false notion that intermarriage destroys a country. Millions of Americans from different ethnic groups and racial groups have married and raised children. It’s not a taboo, it’s not to the detriment of a country, it’s a fundamental liberty.

    Think what you want, but your pouting isn’t going to change anything.


    “Anglo-America is already dead.”

    

Angl0-America died in 1776. We live in what is called America, who’s culture and society is called American.

    “Probably when the Anglo birth rate fell below replacement...”

    You can blame the English for losing the Revolutionary War when Anglo-America died. Oh, well, SPMoore8. Sucks to be you.

    “Dear fellow, most Anglos marry other Anglos.”

    On one hand, yes. Anglos, or those of British Isles descent, do marry other Anglos.
    On the other hand, no. Germans are not Anglos. Italians are not Anglos. Anglo-America refers to English as the main language, i.e. linguistics. That is the cultural part you are referring to. Anglo by itself refers to specifically as those people who originated from the British Isles–an ethnic group–in a historical context. You are twisting meanings to suit your narrative.

    Dear fellow, Anglo has a more expansive definition these days:

    Replenishing the Earth: The Settler Revolution and the Rise of the Anglo world, 1783-1939

    http://www.amazon.com/Replenishing-Earth-Revolution-Angloworld-1783-1939/dp/0199297274

    Hence, when I say Anglo I am referring to culture.When I want to refer to race, I use words like Anglo-Saxon and English.It’s quite simple, really.

    “For example, my mother is Ashkenazi in terms of genes, but Anglo in terms of culture.Hence, her marriage to my father (English-Scots) was an intra-Anglo marriage.”

    

No, it was not inter-Anglo marriage, since your mother’s ethnicity is Jewish. She married outside of her ethnicity, an English man. Your father is a traitor. Sorry :(

    I’m sorry, dear fellow; it was intra-Anglo.The complete opposite of JEB Bush’s traitorous marriage.I’m living proof of the difference.

    “JEB, in contrast, chose to marry a Mexican Hispanic, and then capitulated to her alien culture.”

    Again, there is no capitulating to anything. Don’t be obtuse.

    Of course there is, dear fellow.JEB has admitted that he has submitted to her culture.

    “No, he loves her because she is a Hispanic women.”

    Jeb loves his wife because she is a woman who happens to be Hispanic, similar to your father, an Anglo, who married outside of his ethnicity, a Jew.

    Other way round, dear fellow.JEB is like my mother, who married my father because he is a WASP.She dearly wanted her children to have English blood in their veins.
    .

    “Anglos far outnumbered Californios in CA.hence, the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo.”

    So, you go from saying that “Anglos have not, historically speaking, intermarried with Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos” to “the vast majority of Anglo marriages were intra-Anglo” using Anglo exclusively as a cultural reference rather than referring to Anglo as an ethnic group who speaks English. Interesting, to say the least.

    Quite consistent, dear fellow.I use Anglo in precisely the same way that I use Hispanic.

    “Dear fellow, there are elites and then they are elites….I choose to follow a vanquished elite system of thought.”

    
No, there are elites, period. Again, employing your metric means you, as an elitist, support Obama, who is also an elitist. There is no distinction here. Keep doubling down, it is entertaining.

    No, I’m afraid that I, as a true Conservative , am a devotee of the old ways

    “No, it’s the correct understanding.In a marriage, one culture wins and the other culture loses.”

    It’s an understanding and an opinion. That’s it.

    A true opinion.One culture wins, the other loses.

    “Simply because someone has the right do do a thing does not mean that he should do it.”

    
A person has the liberty to marry and procreate with whomever they please. By not doing it merely because someone says they should not do it, then it is not a liberty at all. It is rendered impotent. I have the right to smoke in my house, but that doesn’t mean I have to smoke, but of my own volition, I choose to smoke. You can tell me that I should not smoke, that it is bad for my health. But, ultimately, I have the liberty to do it, realizing the consequence that I may become sick. In the end, I am exercising that liberty.

    Dear fellow, I’m afraid that you are gibbering. Anglos have the liberty to marry Hispanic Mestizos, but it’s a really bad idea, for rather obvious reasons:

    “Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices test was administered to a representative sample of 920 white, Mestizo and Native Mexican Indian children aged 7–10 years in Mexico. The mean IQs in relation to a British mean of 100 obtained from the 1979 British standardization sample and adjusted for the estimated subsequent increase were: 98·0 for whites, 94·3 for Mestizos and 83·3 for Native Mexican Indians.”

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=266611

    And then let’s compare this to the racial composition of Mexico:

    98.0: Mexican Whites
    94.3:Mexican Mestizos
    83.3: Mexican Amerinds

    According to the CIA FACTBOOK, Mexico’s racial breakdown is:mestizo (Amerindian-Spanish) 60%, Amerindian or predominantly Amerindian 30%, white 9%, other 1%

    Things are not looking good Mexico way…..

    Now, let’s turn to real world achievements.Mexico and the Nobel prize. According to WIKIPEDIA, three people of Mexican origins have won a Nobel:

    Alfonso García Robles: With Alva Myrdal, got the Peace Prize in 1982. For what it’s worth, he looks very White in his WIKIPEDIA photo.

    Mario J. Molina: Along with Paul J. Crutzen and F. Sherwood Rowland, he got the 1995 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for studying the threat posed to the ozone layer by CFCs. Looks pretty White in his WIKIPEDIA photo.

    Octavio Paz: 1990 Nobel in Lit. Based on WIKIPEDIA photo, he might have some Amerind ancestry (or he might not).

    So, Three prizes. Total. As compared to 10 for Scotland, 15 for Australia, 23 for Canada, 74 for England , 306 for the USA, …..

    Now, all of these figures are from WIKIPEDIA, so I’m sure that one could argue about the margins…but the overall portrait of Mexican achievement is pretty dire.

    How about Fields Medalists?:

    United States 12

    France 10

    Soviet Union (3) / Russia (6) 9

    United Kingdom 7

    Japan 3
    Belgium 2

    West Germany (1) / Germany (0) 1

    Australia 1

    British Hong Kong 1

    Finland 1

    Israel 1

    Italy 1

    Norway 1

    New Zealand 1

    Sweden 1

    Vietnam 1

    Iran 1

    Brazil 1

    (None Stateless) 1

    I’ve left out Manjul Bhargava. His background is complicated.

    So, Mexico has zero.Hell, all of Latin America has exactly one, which ties them with New Zealand.

    Race creates the foundation upon which culture is built.Mexico’s racial mix produces mediocrity.In contrast, America’s overwhelming European racial stock allowed her to thrive.Mass immigration by Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos is changing that.Soon, the USA will be as mediocre as Mexico.

    Now, your argument rests on the false notion that intermarriage destroys a country. Millions of Americans from different ethnic groups and racial groups have married and raised children.

    And most of the Europeans have married fellow Europeans.And the Europeans have been, for the most part, converted to Anglo culture.

    It’s not a taboo, it’s not to the detriment of a country, it’s a fundamental liberty.

    It is a detriment if the people in question are Hispanic Amerinds….

    As for the right to marry being fundamental, again, that has no bearing on whether Anglos should marry Hispanic Mestizos.For the good of the country, they should not.

    Think what you want, but your pouting isn’t going to change anything.

    That is entirely correct.As I pointed out upthread, Anglo-America is dead.The culture that produced Thomas Edison, the Wright Bros, William James, Thomas Hunt Morgan, Hubble, Josiah Willard Gibbs, William Faulkner, Hawthorne, Willa Cather, Emily Dickinson, Benjamin Franklin, etc, is dead.In its place, Mexican mediocrity reigns.

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  165. “Dear fellow, Anglo has a more expansive definition these days…”

    
Linking to a book doesn’t explain anything. You have to prove how and why it lends credibility to your argument.

    “Hence, when I say Anglo I am referring to culture.When I want to refer to race, I use words like Anglo-Saxon and English.It’s quite simple, really.”

    Anglo refers to a white inhabitant of the United States of non-Hispanic descent. The cultural aspect is American. Citizens of America historically refer to their culture as American, not Anglo.

    “I’m sorry, dear fellow; it was intra-Anglo.”



    Corrected for accuracy–> it was a marriage between a woman who was Jewish and a man who was English, a marriage outside of one’s ethnicity.

    “JEB has admitted that he has submitted to her culture.”

    
Corrected for accuracy–> JEB has admitted he has embraced his wife’s culture.

    “She dearly wanted her children to have English blood in their veins.”

    
Great, more power to her.

    “A true opinion.One culture wins, the other loses.”

    You are stating an opinion, a self-report of personal judgement. Your statement is subjective in nature.

    “Anglos have the liberty to marry Hispanic Mestizos, but it’s a really bad idea”



    Going back to the fact that a person has no liberty at all if one merely deems marrying outside of one’s race or ethnicity as a “bad idea”.

    “for rather obvious reasons…”

    Which have nothing to do with a person’s liberty to marry someone of one’s liking.

    “Race creates the foundation upon which culture is built.”

    Corrected for accuracy–> Race is one of many factors that creates the foundation upon which culture is built.

    “As for the right to marry being fundamental, again, that has no bearing on whether Anglos should marry Hispanic Mestizos.For the good of the country, they should not.”

    That’s merely an opinion. It has no chance of becoming law in America, nor should it. Sorry :(

    “As I pointed out upthread, Anglo-America is dead.”

    In 1776, yes. Out of its ashes arose the United States Of America.

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  166. So, with the Bushes, we get no border wall and no reduction in the rate of illegal aliens swarming over the southern border.

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