The Unz Review - Mobile
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersiSteve Blog
Japan's Nonwhite Privilege: Accepts Only 20 Refugees in 2017
🔊 Listen RSS
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New Reply
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

From the Asahi Shimbun:

Japan maintains tough stance on refugees, only 20 accepted in 2017
By RYUJIRO KOMATSU/ Staff Writer

February 14, 2018 at 15:35 JST

Japan received a record 19,628 asylum applications in 2017, but only 20 were successful, according to preliminary figures released by the Justice Ministry on Feb. 13.

There were 8,727 more applications compared with 2016, when 28 people were granted refugee status. The total number of asylum seekers in 2017 marked a high for the seventh straight year.

 
Hide 201 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. Japan’s population is about 120 million; the USA is 320 million. Japan’s population is 3/8 of the USA’s.
    So if Japan took just 20 refugees on a population of 120 millions, the USA should take 53 refugees (2 2/3 of 20).

    I am fine with that, even if they are all sub 70 IQ Somalis.

    Read More
    • Replies: @J1234

    Japan’s population is about 120 million; the USA is 320 million. Japan’s population is 3/8 of the USA’s.
    So if Japan took just 20 refugees on a population of 120 millions, the USA should take 53 refugees (2 2/3 of 20).

    I am fine with that, even if they are all sub 70 IQ Somalis
     
    Yeah, OK...I am, too, but those Somalis will have to live in your neighborhood before they start living in mine.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  2. Of course we are a much bigger country than Japan so we could take in more. Something around 50 or 60 sounds right.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Truth
    LOL, yo Paddy, you and Jim Bob in comment #1 prove that geniuses congregate together.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  3. There was an article in the Economist last week telling the naughty Chinese to stop being racist to Africans. They even complained (not making this up) about Chinese scientists using race, which everyone in the West knows has been disproven by science.

    Read More
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    That will stop when The Economist is bought out by the Chinese ;)

    Or by some Muslim "Briton" who wants to curry favor with the new Chinese overlords of the world.

    , @Tenet
    "They even complained (not making this up)"

    No, we know you are not making it up. You include that narcissistic phrase to show "Look, what I write is super special! So special that people can't even believe it's true!" It's like laughing at your own jokes.

    Just leave it out it next time and simply write what you have to say.
    , @Realist
    If only Western countries were as intelligent as east Asian countries....we would have slammed the door shut decades ago.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  4. Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don’t want skilled workers to bring their families over. That is going to put off even the mass-produced H1b drones. Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married. I can’t think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something, having the entire country enter old age will make it much poorer over an extended period of time.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    work and get promoted even after they got married. I can’t think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something
     
    Oh god. This troll territory around iSteve.

    Keeping an economy growing with an expanding workforce is unsustainable. Getting women to work was a bad deal for America and would be for Japan too.

    There are some pro-natalist policies the government could support, but the leftist project of getting women out of the homes and into the workforce is just evil and would destroy traditional family lifestyles.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Your post is pretty contradictory, Mr. Choudhury. You think encouraging Japenese women to have careers will help make more babies? Whaaaaa? They will do fine, as lots of posters/commenters here and on VDare seem to think too. I don't see women in the workplace making anyone richer but the Jap government. Life is not all about money - growing up with two loving parents with a Mom that has time for the family is a something American Express just doesn't cover. (OK, OK, I'm butchering that commerical!)

    I say they will do fine, as the technology they develop, albiet less personal, will make the care for the elders more affordable, as this big bubble of population gets to those years. That beats importing caretakers that will eventually change their whole society. Anyway, within 25 years or so, they may have a very nice/stable demographic profile.

    All that said, I personally would not fit in to Japanese society, even with more-slanted eyes and black hair. I value open spaces and freedom as opposed to what the Japanese value. However, let the Japanese be Japanesse.
    , @bartok
    My thanks to the other commentators for sniffing out Ali Choudhury's feminist-neoliberal horseshit, that sounds like The Economist talking.

    Why do Japanese women have so few children? Let's put it this way - why should they bother to have more than one or two? Selfishly, they get more leisure time to watch TV, the fewer children they have. And they watch plenty of TV / mobile phone entertainment. Rationally, they can invest more in fewer children, for tutoring, sports, perhaps private high school. Children are a financial burden, not a boon, in a welfare state. In modern first-world countries, money flows from parent to child - rarely does a child make a net contribution in the reverse direction.

    The free K-12 schools are not 100% free, there are extra expenses. Same with free healthcare, you need to save for extra cancer insurance and for cash gifts to surgeons and other specialists. "Onegaishimasu!"

    Plenty of expenses. Though the rent isn't as damn high as it used to be, buying home is expensive b/c the Japanese are averse to 'used homes'. They tear down and rebuild as a matter of course.

    The Japanese government has a easy solution to all of this, staring them in the face. Because the Japanese are so conscientious, the government needs only to dangle huge stacks of cash in front of "Baby, maybe?" married couples. Give the equivalent of $150k, cash, for each married couple's third, fourth, etc. child. Index it to local cost of living so that city dwellers are tempted as well. Have the local mayor deliver it to the hospital room - politicians love to play Santa Kulasu.

    Instead, there is a mild subsidy to parents, handed out annually. Boring!

    The government doesn't understand that they need to motivate reckless conception with huge cash stacks. Unlike in the US, reckless conception will be decidedly pro-social.

    Instead, the equivalent stacks of cash are squandered on bridges to nowhere. The politically-connected concrete companies should be reassured that a baby boom will require plenty of concrete, by-and-by. They need to sacrifice temporarily for the good of the nation.

    , @Massimo Heitor

    Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don’t want skilled workers to bring their families over.

     

    What is unlikely to work? Their outrageously harsh terms of immigration will fail to discourage immigrants and lower immigration levels? Their PR spin will fail to keep international pressure at bay? Maybe both of those will work exactly as planned.
    , @Daniel Chieh

    Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married.
     
    Children are not chopped livers. They need someone to nurture them, and female careers delay first birth and compete for attention.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  5. I’ve been to Japan many times. On one of my first visits, I was walking down the street with one of my Japanese hosts, and I saw a beer vending machine on the street.

    I asked him, “what’s to keep minors from buying beer from these machines?”

    He replied, “they just don’t do it.”

    That my friends, is a society.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Barnard
    That is a hard to believe anecdote. This is an old article, but it claims the machines have ID readers for purchasing alcohol.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2001/04/10/national/id-system-keeps-alcohol-vending-machines-handy/#.WpSQ74PwaUk
    , @White Guy In Japan
    Also, if you lose your wallet or purse, 99% chance it will be turned in to the police and returned to you. Cash intact. That is civilization with a capital "C".

    @Barnard
    I have never seen ID scan required for beer/sake vending machines. Cigarette machines, yes.
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    If you believe that, then I ought to change my tag to Nigerian Prince and cut you in on this business deal I've got.
    , @Neoconned
    I'm very seriously considering retiring to suburban Tokyo in my 50s, if I live that long....the safe streets being one of the main lures....
    , @Truth

    That my friends, is a society.
     
    Yeah...a society with some punk-ass boys.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  6. Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.

    Read More
    • Replies: @istevefan

    Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.
     
    Tell that to the Koreans, Chinese and others in Asia. The Japanese do invasions quite well. But I get your point that in the post WW2 world they have ceased.

    However, if Japan would have held onto her gains and not lost WW2, would Japan itself today be overrun with foreigners?

    , @Massimo Heitor

    Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.

     

    Japan invaded the US! Japan invaded China, Korea, and India! Japan was the biggest ally of the Nazis; the actual Nazis. Since WW2, Japan hasn't been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  7. The Japanese are not only holding on to their own traditional ethnic homeland, they are also expanding by assimilating small minorities beyond the boundaries of the old Japanese homeland.

    The Ainu are one obvious example, but here is another:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Savory

    A group of White American men and their Hawaiian wives were the first colonists of the Bonin Islands (Iwo Jima, Chi Chi Jima etc.) in the 1830s, but they have since been utterly assimilated through intermarriage, after the Japanese annexed the islands.

    Their descendants no longer want to even admit that their ancestors included White Americans and Hawaiians, but some of the Japanese who fought against Americans during WW2, perhaps even some of those who fought on Iwo Jima, were descendants of Nathaniel Savory and his fellow White American colonists.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Bill P
    I wonder whether the Pelosi, Brown, Newsom and Feinstein descendants will fight us in the next Mexican War.
    , @Cortes
    Here’s an example of an outpost in southern Spain:

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2003/12/11/news/spains-japon-clan-has-reunion-to-trace-its-17th-century-roots/#.WpSc-sqnyhA
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  8. How smugly (and rightly) pleased with themselves must the Japanese be as they watch their victorious enemy of 1945 destroy itself through ideologically driven mass immigration while they keep their superior stock pure – and ready to step into the vaccuum we will leave behind.

    Read More
    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    I think the Chinese intend to step into that vacuum.
    , @scrivener3
    Japanese are having very few children. They are rubbing themselves out. Everyone seems to think the lot of a Japanese (salaryman's) wife is pretty dismal with his work centered socializing at night, so maybe instead of feminism it is some sort of masculine ethic that got off track. It does seem the Japanese take anything to an extreme, like ten years internship to learn how to grind wasabi.
    , @Corvinus
    "How smugly (and rightly) pleased with themselves must the Japanese be as they watch their victorious enemy of 1945 destroy itself through ideologically driven mass immigration while they keep their superior stock pure – and ready to step into the vaccuum we will leave behind."

    You mean mass immigration driven by capitalism. And as far as keeping our "superior stock pure", that notion went out the window when the English were overrun by the non-English in the Thirteen Colonies.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  9. Meanwhile in Dutchland:

    From drug tolerance to ‘narco state’: Migrant gangs & hands-off policing threaten Dutch liberalism

    The Netherlands’ permissive drugs policy has been hailed worldwide, but immigrant-dominated crime gangs are taking advantage to create a “parallel mafia society.” Yet they are not the only ones who created this crisis.

    A report by the Dutch police union based on interviews with 400 detectives, released last week, read less like a blueprint for tackling crime, but rather a concession of defeat.

    A sample of quotes from interviewees: “In 25 years, I’ve seen small dealers grow to large businessmen with respected investors [and] political connections.” “Five years ago a contract killer would cost €50,000 [US$61,000] now one can be found for €5,000. It’s supply and demand.” “The Netherlands has become a narco state in the past three decades. We do not see what remains invisible, but underground it has been growing.”

    ….

    A police report – even one titled A Cry for Help – is not likely to spark action, though at least unlike in Germany there is discussion unburdened by constraints of self-censorship.

    The above is essentially the platform of Geert Wilders Party for Freedom, which presents itself as a defender of Dutch liberalism, demanding both stricter deportations and tougher policing on one hand, and greater assimilation from migrant groups on the other. But even on the crest of a populist wave last year, the party received just 20 out of 150 seats in parliament, and remains firmly in opposition.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    "...immigrant-dominated crime gangs are taking advantage to create a 'parallel mafia society.'"

    I can well believe it.

    I spent some time in the Netherlands & Belgium, about this time last year, starting off at a Hostel in Amsterdam...

    I awoke one morning in the midst of a nasty quarrel between a couple of guys speaking in English with heavy accents that I couldn't identify, pretty clearly concerning some drug deal gone awry.

    I just snored louder & vacated the next morning.
    , @Altai
    Can only have a high-trust society with high trust people.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  10. Vincent Chiarello says:

    Can Japan remain…Japanese? Unlike the U.S. and other countries in the West, the Japanese recognize the importance of their historical and cultural roots, as do their politicians. I have no doubt that they will.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  11. Disappointed to see that they let so many in, whats next, 25, 40, 130, the possibilities are endless.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  12. When I buy eggs, I buy more. Not a criticism, but more a puzzlement. I always thought of these things as being kind of boolean. It is either zero or infinity. Actually, sometimes it is kind of a slow creep. But not with Japan.

    I guess this is about forms, maybe. Like how the declaration of war was supposed to come a minute before Pearl Harbor, but came after, to the strange shame of the Japanese.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonym
    When I buy eggs, I buy more.

    The eggs you buy don't hatch, or turn into hatchlings that procreate amongst themselves, criticize your family and the way you do things, demand you provide for them, commit crimes against your household including rape and murder, or demand that you submit to their laws and religion.

    Sometimes in order to make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  13. Too bad they did not give more details about each of the 20. I really want to know what it takes to make the cut.

    Japanese Association for Refugees (Yo, George Soros I know you read this blog, send them some of your ¥)

    https://www.refugee.or.jp/en/

    2013 application for refugee status. 20 is actually a comparatively large number.

    https://www.refugee.or.jp/for_refugees/tothose/tothose_english_1303.pdf

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  14. If I had to pick a non-white ethnicity to be, it would be Japanese.

    Read More
    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    And me. There's something about the Japanese that reminds me of Scandinavians. In another universe I could imagine a contemporary Sweden as being something like modern Japan. I think many Sailerites and alt-righters would give the same answer, too.

    But it makes me wonder what other ethnic groups people here would choose to be, and for what reasons?

    'Jew' would be an obvious answer for all sorts of comedy and genuine reasons. But who else? The choices are pretty thin.
    , @Truth
    Well isn't that magnanimous of you.

    I had a Japanese guy tell me the other day that if he had to be a hairy, foul-smelling, big-nosed, stupid, rude, drunk, Gaijin, European is UNQUESTIONABLY the path he'd choose.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  15. @Old Palo Altan
    How smugly (and rightly) pleased with themselves must the Japanese be as they watch their victorious enemy of 1945 destroy itself through ideologically driven mass immigration while they keep their superior stock pure - and ready to step into the vaccuum we will leave behind.

    I think the Chinese intend to step into that vacuum.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    I know they do, but I predict (or perhaps merely hope) that the honorary Aryans will beat them to it.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  16. @songbird
    When I buy eggs, I buy more. Not a criticism, but more a puzzlement. I always thought of these things as being kind of boolean. It is either zero or infinity. Actually, sometimes it is kind of a slow creep. But not with Japan.

    I guess this is about forms, maybe. Like how the declaration of war was supposed to come a minute before Pearl Harbor, but came after, to the strange shame of the Japanese.

    When I buy eggs, I buy more.

    The eggs you buy don’t hatch, or turn into hatchlings that procreate amongst themselves, criticize your family and the way you do things, demand you provide for them, commit crimes against your household including rape and murder, or demand that you submit to their laws and religion.

    Sometimes in order to make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  17. @John Gruskos
    The Japanese are not only holding on to their own traditional ethnic homeland, they are also expanding by assimilating small minorities beyond the boundaries of the old Japanese homeland.

    The Ainu are one obvious example, but here is another:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Savory

    A group of White American men and their Hawaiian wives were the first colonists of the Bonin Islands (Iwo Jima, Chi Chi Jima etc.) in the 1830s, but they have since been utterly assimilated through intermarriage, after the Japanese annexed the islands.

    Their descendants no longer want to even admit that their ancestors included White Americans and Hawaiians, but some of the Japanese who fought against Americans during WW2, perhaps even some of those who fought on Iwo Jima, were descendants of Nathaniel Savory and his fellow White American colonists.

    I wonder whether the Pelosi, Brown, Newsom and Feinstein descendants will fight us in the next Mexican War.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  18. Amusing trivia: during Apartheid, the South African government officially classified the Japanese as “honorary whites”.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Dmitry

    Amusing trivia: during Apartheid, the South African government officially classified the Japanese as “honorary whites”.

     

    Perhaps one day in Nippon, they can respond to reclassify what they must see as South African "hairy barbarians" into - 'honorary Japanese' (one of greatest honors a man could receive).
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  19. That’s 20 more than they should have taken.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  20. Only 20 refugees, meanwhile the number of refugees that Angela Merkel lets into Germany every year is the equivalent of the population of San Diego, California or Phoenix, Arizona for example.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  21. @Spud Boy
    I've been to Japan many times. On one of my first visits, I was walking down the street with one of my Japanese hosts, and I saw a beer vending machine on the street.

    I asked him, "what's to keep minors from buying beer from these machines?"

    He replied, "they just don't do it."

    That my friends, is a society.

    That is a hard to believe anecdote. This is an old article, but it claims the machines have ID readers for purchasing alcohol.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2001/04/10/national/id-system-keeps-alcohol-vending-machines-handy/#.WpSQ74PwaUk

    Read More
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    No, he's correct. I live in Japan, and these honor-system alcohol vending machines exist. I've used them. There is one around the corner from my apartment.
    (BTW, the article you posted doesn't say they don't exist, it says they're changing.)

    And they are in fact a good example of why foreigners, like me, shouldn't be allowed to move here.
    , @J.Ross
    Japan actually still made cash deliveries of holiday bonuses until alarmingly recently. Japanese typically get underpaid on their normal paychecks but get an unusually large holiday bonus in cash. There was a huge (~$800,000) robbery in 1968 which prompted foreigners to ask how that had not happened sooner.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  22. @Jim Don Bob
    Japan's population is about 120 million; the USA is 320 million. Japan's population is 3/8 of the USA's.
    So if Japan took just 20 refugees on a population of 120 millions, the USA should take 53 refugees (2 2/3 of 20).

    I am fine with that, even if they are all sub 70 IQ Somalis.

    Japan’s population is about 120 million; the USA is 320 million. Japan’s population is 3/8 of the USA’s.
    So if Japan took just 20 refugees on a population of 120 millions, the USA should take 53 refugees (2 2/3 of 20).

    I am fine with that, even if they are all sub 70 IQ Somalis

    Yeah, OK…I am, too, but those Somalis will have to live in your neighborhood before they start living in mine.

    Read More
    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    Good point. Maybe just take one, to prove you are not racist, and no more.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    I would gladly sign up to support all of them for the rest of their lives iif they were the only refugees admitted this year. It would be a bargain compared to the 1-2 million turd worlders coming here every year that we have to pay for forever and all their relatives forever.

    I'm with Jack D. Pick them up, put them on a plane/bus back to where they came from. Period.

    I am sick to death of hearing about the rights illegals have in my country. What part of illegal is hard to understand?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  23. Japan will survive, China too, Russia probably, Poland and Hungary possibly, France, UK & Germany not very likely.

    But even those bozos west of Oder-Neisse line can save themselves (ethnic cleansing & all that jazz)

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  24. @Flip
    If I had to pick a non-white ethnicity to be, it would be Japanese.

    And me. There’s something about the Japanese that reminds me of Scandinavians. In another universe I could imagine a contemporary Sweden as being something like modern Japan. I think many Sailerites and alt-righters would give the same answer, too.

    But it makes me wonder what other ethnic groups people here would choose to be, and for what reasons?

    ‘Jew’ would be an obvious answer for all sorts of comedy and genuine reasons. But who else? The choices are pretty thin.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    And me. And BTW the "Jew" thing only works if your mom's a shiksa and your dad's a billionaire. Then I guess it's worth it.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  25. @Joe Walker
    I think the Chinese intend to step into that vacuum.

    I know they do, but I predict (or perhaps merely hope) that the honorary Aryans will beat them to it.

    Read More
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    The Japs may find themselves high on the list for historical retribution as China thoroughly eclipses the USA and Europe (COMBINED) in economic and military might.

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn't acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  26. @El Dato
    Meanwhile in Dutchland:

    From drug tolerance to ‘narco state’: Migrant gangs & hands-off policing threaten Dutch liberalism

    The Netherlands’ permissive drugs policy has been hailed worldwide, but immigrant-dominated crime gangs are taking advantage to create a “parallel mafia society.” Yet they are not the only ones who created this crisis.

    A report by the Dutch police union based on interviews with 400 detectives, released last week, read less like a blueprint for tackling crime, but rather a concession of defeat.

    A sample of quotes from interviewees: “In 25 years, I’ve seen small dealers grow to large businessmen with respected investors [and] political connections.” “Five years ago a contract killer would cost €50,000 [US$61,000] now one can be found for €5,000. It’s supply and demand.” “The Netherlands has become a narco state in the past three decades. We do not see what remains invisible, but underground it has been growing.”

    ....


    A police report – even one titled A Cry for Help – is not likely to spark action, though at least unlike in Germany there is discussion unburdened by constraints of self-censorship.

    The above is essentially the platform of Geert Wilders Party for Freedom, which presents itself as a defender of Dutch liberalism, demanding both stricter deportations and tougher policing on one hand, and greater assimilation from migrant groups on the other. But even on the crest of a populist wave last year, the party received just 20 out of 150 seats in parliament, and remains firmly in opposition.
     

    “…immigrant-dominated crime gangs are taking advantage to create a ‘parallel mafia society.’”

    I can well believe it.

    I spent some time in the Netherlands & Belgium, about this time last year, starting off at a Hostel in Amsterdam…

    I awoke one morning in the midst of a nasty quarrel between a couple of guys speaking in English with heavy accents that I couldn’t identify, pretty clearly concerning some drug deal gone awry.

    I just snored louder & vacated the next morning.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    Well, I hope at least you wandered up and down the art and antiques street leading to and from the Rijksmuseum.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  27. “Among the 20 individuals who were recognized as refugees were five Egyptians, five Syrians and two Afghans.”

    Even when a country does it right, they do it wrong.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Barnard
    I don't know if there are any good options for country of origin when it comes to refugees. They could probably do worse than that too.
    , @Brutusale
    Well, seeing as Japanese society is like a military academy compared to that of the US, which is a goo goo Montessori school, I expect the refugees to assimilate or die.

    At any rate, they won't be a problem for long.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  28. @DFH
    There was an article in the Economist last week telling the naughty Chinese to stop being racist to Africans. They even complained (not making this up) about Chinese scientists using race, which everyone in the West knows has been disproven by science.

    That will stop when The Economist is bought out by the Chinese ;)

    Or by some Muslim “Briton” who wants to curry favor with the new Chinese overlords of the world.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    ==QUOTE== That will stop when The Economist is bought out by the Chinese ;) Or by some Muslim “Briton” who wants to curry favor with the new Chinese overlords of the world. ==UNQUOTE==

    "Curry" favor? Isn't that cultural appropriation? Kind of like this 1964 Japanese commercial that "Even an Indian will be surprised (at the good taste of S&B Curry)":
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSm0KUlcK-E
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  29. @Barnard
    That is a hard to believe anecdote. This is an old article, but it claims the machines have ID readers for purchasing alcohol.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2001/04/10/national/id-system-keeps-alcohol-vending-machines-handy/#.WpSQ74PwaUk

    No, he’s correct. I live in Japan, and these honor-system alcohol vending machines exist. I’ve used them. There is one around the corner from my apartment.
    (BTW, the article you posted doesn’t say they don’t exist, it says they’re changing.)

    And they are in fact a good example of why foreigners, like me, shouldn’t be allowed to move here.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Barnard
    The article is from 2001 so I figured the ID scanners would have been implemented by now. It is still hard to believe there are few underage drinkers using them, but maybe that is their culture.
    , @Truth

    (BTW, the article you posted doesn’t say they don’t exist, it says they’re changing.)
     
    Is there a logical inference that can be drawn from this? I mean, I never truly wanted to belive the "Japs are smarter than whites" meme, but, uh...
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  30. @Old Palo Altan
    I know they do, but I predict (or perhaps merely hope) that the honorary Aryans will beat them to it.

    The Japs may find themselves high on the list for historical retribution as China thoroughly eclipses the USA and Europe (COMBINED) in economic and military might.

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    Read More
    • Replies: @German_reader

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?
     
    Japan could develop nukes and ICBMs within a few months:
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/japan-could-have-icbm-less-year-says-expert-24183
    Their "self-defense" forces also seem to be well-equipped and competent.

    They'll be fine as long as they stick to their policy of keeping out "refugees" and other aliens.
    , @Anonymous

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?
     
    Well, there is one country exactly midway between China and Japan, and it already has nukes and delivery systems. Granted there may be a complication or two, but still.
    , @Daniel Chieh

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

     

    There's no point.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  31. Are those who are rejected kicked out of Japan or are they allowed to remain?
    If allowed to remain, isn’t it effectually a kind of asylum?

    Even if they are officially accepted, the fact they are allowed to stay means they get to live there.

    Btw, why were so many allowed to get in in the first place?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  32. @Vrystaat
    Amusing trivia: during Apartheid, the South African government officially classified the Japanese as "honorary whites".

    Amusing trivia: during Apartheid, the South African government officially classified the Japanese as “honorary whites”.

    Perhaps one day in Nippon, they can respond to reclassify what they must see as South African “hairy barbarians” into – ‘honorary Japanese’ (one of greatest honors a man could receive).

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  33. @J1234

    Japan’s population is about 120 million; the USA is 320 million. Japan’s population is 3/8 of the USA’s.
    So if Japan took just 20 refugees on a population of 120 millions, the USA should take 53 refugees (2 2/3 of 20).

    I am fine with that, even if they are all sub 70 IQ Somalis
     
    Yeah, OK...I am, too, but those Somalis will have to live in your neighborhood before they start living in mine.

    Good point. Maybe just take one, to prove you are not racist, and no more.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  34. @Old Palo Altan
    How smugly (and rightly) pleased with themselves must the Japanese be as they watch their victorious enemy of 1945 destroy itself through ideologically driven mass immigration while they keep their superior stock pure - and ready to step into the vaccuum we will leave behind.

    Japanese are having very few children. They are rubbing themselves out. Everyone seems to think the lot of a Japanese (salaryman’s) wife is pretty dismal with his work centered socializing at night, so maybe instead of feminism it is some sort of masculine ethic that got off track. It does seem the Japanese take anything to an extreme, like ten years internship to learn how to grind wasabi.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    More like 10 years internship to learn how to grind sesame!
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  35. @Ali Choudhury
    Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don't want skilled workers to bring their families over. That is going to put off even the mass-produced H1b drones. Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married. I can't think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something, having the entire country enter old age will make it much poorer over an extended period of time.

    work and get promoted even after they got married. I can’t think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something

    Oh god. This troll territory around iSteve.

    Keeping an economy growing with an expanding workforce is unsustainable. Getting women to work was a bad deal for America and would be for Japan too.

    There are some pro-natalist policies the government could support, but the leftist project of getting women out of the homes and into the workforce is just evil and would destroy traditional family lifestyles.

    Read More
    • Agree: Corn
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  36. @Anonymous
    Japan: doesn't invade the world, thus doesn't invite the world.

    Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.

    Tell that to the Koreans, Chinese and others in Asia. The Japanese do invasions quite well. But I get your point that in the post WW2 world they have ceased.

    However, if Japan would have held onto her gains and not lost WW2, would Japan itself today be overrun with foreigners?

    Read More
    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yup.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Population_of_Koreans_in_Japan.gif

    BTW, WWII (and 1920s-30s) Japanese propaganda reads word-for-word identically to modern-day SJW/Critical Race Theory tracts. It’s really remarkable. I’d do a blog post on it if I had a blog.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  37. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Among the 20 individuals who were recognized as refugees were five Egyptians, five Syrians and two Afghans."

    Even when a country does it right, they do it wrong.

    I don’t know if there are any good options for country of origin when it comes to refugees. They could probably do worse than that too.

    Read More
    • Replies: @snorlax
    North Korea, China, Ukraine, Lebanese Christians, white South Africans, secular Iranians.

    (None of whom are particularly desirable from the Japanese perspective, just better choices than Afghans).
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  38. @Barnard
    That is a hard to believe anecdote. This is an old article, but it claims the machines have ID readers for purchasing alcohol.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2001/04/10/national/id-system-keeps-alcohol-vending-machines-handy/#.WpSQ74PwaUk

    Japan actually still made cash deliveries of holiday bonuses until alarmingly recently. Japanese typically get underpaid on their normal paychecks but get an unusually large holiday bonus in cash. There was a huge (~$800,000) robbery in 1968 which prompted foreigners to ask how that had not happened sooner.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  39. @Ali Choudhury
    Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don't want skilled workers to bring their families over. That is going to put off even the mass-produced H1b drones. Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married. I can't think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something, having the entire country enter old age will make it much poorer over an extended period of time.

    Your post is pretty contradictory, Mr. Choudhury. You think encouraging Japenese women to have careers will help make more babies? Whaaaaa? They will do fine, as lots of posters/commenters here and on VDare seem to think too. I don’t see women in the workplace making anyone richer but the Jap government. Life is not all about money – growing up with two loving parents with a Mom that has time for the family is a something American Express just doesn’t cover. (OK, OK, I’m butchering that commerical!)

    I say they will do fine, as the technology they develop, albiet less personal, will make the care for the elders more affordable, as this big bubble of population gets to those years. That beats importing caretakers that will eventually change their whole society. Anyway, within 25 years or so, they may have a very nice/stable demographic profile.

    All that said, I personally would not fit in to Japanese society, even with more-slanted eyes and black hair. I value open spaces and freedom as opposed to what the Japanese value. However, let the Japanese be Japanesse.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  40. And still, they managed to find each other!

    Read More
    • Replies: @mobi
    https://youtu.be/4aNoZt77dnk
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  41. @RadicalCenter
    The Japs may find themselves high on the list for historical retribution as China thoroughly eclipses the USA and Europe (COMBINED) in economic and military might.

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn't acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    Japan could develop nukes and ICBMs within a few months:

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/japan-could-have-icbm-less-year-says-expert-24183

    Their “self-defense” forces also seem to be well-equipped and competent.

    They’ll be fine as long as they stick to their policy of keeping out “refugees” and other aliens.

    Read More
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Fair point, and I'm checking out your link, thank you :)

    But when China grows strong and bold enough, and the USA weak enough, we can't be sure that China will afford Japan those few months to develop nukes.

    Japan's self-defense forces can be quickly overwhelmed by China, which can readily afford to lose several pilots, planes, soldiers, etc., for each one lost by Japan if they get into a life-or-death struggle.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I used to work on Capitol Hill and had responsibilities vis-à-vis the nuclear weapons facilities of the Department of Energy. In the 1990s DOE told us that Japan could have a nuclear weapon within six weeks of a political decision to acquire one. The Japanese are quite familiar with plutonium from their breeder reactor program and the explosive lenses necessary to achieve a controlled implosion are well within the capabilities of today's commercial blasting technology. I don't know how many nuclear weapons the Japanese could have or how they would plan to deliver them.

    I think a Chinese invasion of Japan is very unlikely. China tends to be quite restrained in its foreign policy except when it considers something to be a domestic matter (e.g., Taiwan or Tibet).

    By the way, I always appreciate and look forward to your comments!
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  42. @Spud Boy
    I've been to Japan many times. On one of my first visits, I was walking down the street with one of my Japanese hosts, and I saw a beer vending machine on the street.

    I asked him, "what's to keep minors from buying beer from these machines?"

    He replied, "they just don't do it."

    That my friends, is a society.

    Also, if you lose your wallet or purse, 99% chance it will be turned in to the police and returned to you. Cash intact. That is civilization with a capital “C”.


    I have never seen ID scan required for beer/sake vending machines. Cigarette machines, yes.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Japan is close to being a nation which does everything right. Not perfect--what's perfect? But the ire in the MSM in this country when Japan is mentioned is telling, all right. Japan is a standing rebuke to the endless internal contradictions rife in MSM narratives. Can't have that.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was "turned in" to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who "turned it in" didn't want any reward.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  43. @John Gruskos
    The Japanese are not only holding on to their own traditional ethnic homeland, they are also expanding by assimilating small minorities beyond the boundaries of the old Japanese homeland.

    The Ainu are one obvious example, but here is another:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Savory

    A group of White American men and their Hawaiian wives were the first colonists of the Bonin Islands (Iwo Jima, Chi Chi Jima etc.) in the 1830s, but they have since been utterly assimilated through intermarriage, after the Japanese annexed the islands.

    Their descendants no longer want to even admit that their ancestors included White Americans and Hawaiians, but some of the Japanese who fought against Americans during WW2, perhaps even some of those who fought on Iwo Jima, were descendants of Nathaniel Savory and his fellow White American colonists.
    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  44. There were 8,727 more applications compared with 2016, when 28 people were granted refugee status.

    Like Harvard, Japan is becoming more and more selective. It’s good for the brand.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  45. According to the convention, a refugee is “someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”

    But critics in and out of Japan say the government’s interpretation is too literal and strict.

    Takizawa said that the convention lags behind refugees’ changing circumstances around the world.

    “Regarding applicants who do not fit in the definition of a refugee, Japan should introduce a measure to give them legal protection, rather than a residence permit based on ‘humanitarian consideration,’” he said.

    According to the ministry, applications seeking refugee status were filed by individuals from 82 countries in 2017, most of them in Asia.

    The Philippines, at 4,895, topped the list of applications, followed by Vietnam, at 3,116; Sri Lanka, at 2,226; Indonesia at 2,038; and Nepal, at 1,450.

    Am I missing something? Is Manila not safe? Is Hanoi not safe? Is Colombo not safe? Is Jakarta not safe? Is Kathmandu a war zone? Doesn’t the Nepalese government famously have a citizen happiness index?

    All of these places are tourist destinations! Only some of these countries have on-going conflicts and they are confined to more rural areas, the big cities are fine.

    The entire massive increase from about 2012 onwards seems to come from economic migrants from other stable Asian countries. That the Philippines tops the list is hardly surprising given the emigration tradition it has developed over the last 40 years, as have all the other countries listed, except maybe Indonesia.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Karl
    45 Altai > Is Manila not safe?


    it's certainly safer than most of California, and Manila is the most dangerous place in the Philippines

    but that's not why I came here today.

    I came here today to mention that Japan ==does== have a fairly liberal policy about granting residency to people who can prove that they had a Japanese grandparent.

    Many of the beneficiarees are Filipinos, because Japanese, since the 1920's or so, like to retire to the warmer climate which isn't THAT far from Nippon itself.

    You arrive in Phils as a 63 year old guy, next thing you know you've knocked up some 23 year old province beauty.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  46. The Japanese remain stubbornly Japanese.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  47. Japan could solve their population problems by banning porn, contraception, and abortion for a couple of years.

    Read More
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Never thought I'd say it, but perhaps they should also prohibit depiction of homosexual sex and other non-reproductive, disease-spreading perversions.

    Same with the glorification of the mentally ill and/or deeply emotionally troubled people who are being encouraged to be "transgender."

    In Japan, there are essentially only Japanese people, so abortions kill Japanese babies. By contrast, in the USA we would merely accelerate our decline into Hell by enforcing a ban on abortion: success on that issue would cause (over just two generations' time) the birth of tens of millions more babies to poor, uneducated, and often irresponsible & relatively unintelligent parents, disproportionately African and Mexican.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  48. @istevefan

    Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.
     
    Tell that to the Koreans, Chinese and others in Asia. The Japanese do invasions quite well. But I get your point that in the post WW2 world they have ceased.

    However, if Japan would have held onto her gains and not lost WW2, would Japan itself today be overrun with foreigners?

    Yup.

    BTW, WWII (and 1920s-30s) Japanese propaganda reads word-for-word identically to modern-day SJW/Critical Race Theory tracts. It’s really remarkable. I’d do a blog post on it if I had a blog.

    Read More
    • Replies: @istevefan
    Supply the supporting documentation. Maybe Steve will cover it.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  49. @El Dato
    Meanwhile in Dutchland:

    From drug tolerance to ‘narco state’: Migrant gangs & hands-off policing threaten Dutch liberalism

    The Netherlands’ permissive drugs policy has been hailed worldwide, but immigrant-dominated crime gangs are taking advantage to create a “parallel mafia society.” Yet they are not the only ones who created this crisis.

    A report by the Dutch police union based on interviews with 400 detectives, released last week, read less like a blueprint for tackling crime, but rather a concession of defeat.

    A sample of quotes from interviewees: “In 25 years, I’ve seen small dealers grow to large businessmen with respected investors [and] political connections.” “Five years ago a contract killer would cost €50,000 [US$61,000] now one can be found for €5,000. It’s supply and demand.” “The Netherlands has become a narco state in the past three decades. We do not see what remains invisible, but underground it has been growing.”

    ....


    A police report – even one titled A Cry for Help – is not likely to spark action, though at least unlike in Germany there is discussion unburdened by constraints of self-censorship.

    The above is essentially the platform of Geert Wilders Party for Freedom, which presents itself as a defender of Dutch liberalism, demanding both stricter deportations and tougher policing on one hand, and greater assimilation from migrant groups on the other. But even on the crest of a populist wave last year, the party received just 20 out of 150 seats in parliament, and remains firmly in opposition.
     

    Can only have a high-trust society with high trust people.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  50. @Barnard
    I don't know if there are any good options for country of origin when it comes to refugees. They could probably do worse than that too.

    North Korea, China, Ukraine, Lebanese Christians, white South Africans, secular Iranians.

    (None of whom are particularly desirable from the Japanese perspective, just better choices than Afghans).

    Read More
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    How do they know the alleged Christians are not Muslims? Too risky (for Japan or us) to admit anyone from a Muslim-majority country for permanent settlement.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  51. There was an article in the Economist last week telling the naughty Chinese to stop being racist to Africans. They even complained (not making this up) about Chinese scientists using race, which everyone in the West knows has been disproven by science.

    Is that rag paywalled? If not I’d love to see the link. Usually TPTB are wise enough to ignore non-white racism, since they’re only actually worried about white racism, anyway.

    Japan will survive, China too, Russia probably, Poland and Hungary possibly, USA, Canada, Australia, France, UK & Germany not very likely.

    FIFY.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  52. @snorlax
    Yup.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Population_of_Koreans_in_Japan.gif

    BTW, WWII (and 1920s-30s) Japanese propaganda reads word-for-word identically to modern-day SJW/Critical Race Theory tracts. It’s really remarkable. I’d do a blog post on it if I had a blog.

    Supply the supporting documentation. Maybe Steve will cover it.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  53. @Chrisnonymous
    No, he's correct. I live in Japan, and these honor-system alcohol vending machines exist. I've used them. There is one around the corner from my apartment.
    (BTW, the article you posted doesn't say they don't exist, it says they're changing.)

    And they are in fact a good example of why foreigners, like me, shouldn't be allowed to move here.

    The article is from 2001 so I figured the ID scanners would have been implemented by now. It is still hard to believe there are few underage drinkers using them, but maybe that is their culture.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  54. @mobi
    And still, they managed to find each other!

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't think those are Muslim refugees. It was some sort of protest or something in front of the Turkish embassy. I'm not sure who the brawlers were, whether they were Turks or Kurds or something.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  55. @RadicalCenter
    That will stop when The Economist is bought out by the Chinese ;)

    Or by some Muslim "Briton" who wants to curry favor with the new Chinese overlords of the world.

    ==QUOTE== That will stop when The Economist is bought out by the Chinese ;) Or by some Muslim “Briton” who wants to curry favor with the new Chinese overlords of the world. ==UNQUOTE==

    “Curry” favor? Isn’t that cultural appropriation? Kind of like this 1964 Japanese commercial that “Even an Indian will be surprised (at the good taste of S&B Curry)”:

    Read More
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Japanese curry for kari katsu is delicious but unrecognizably distinct from Indian stuff, you could never fail to tell then apart.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  56. @German_reader

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?
     
    Japan could develop nukes and ICBMs within a few months:
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/japan-could-have-icbm-less-year-says-expert-24183
    Their "self-defense" forces also seem to be well-equipped and competent.

    They'll be fine as long as they stick to their policy of keeping out "refugees" and other aliens.

    Fair point, and I’m checking out your link, thank you :)

    But when China grows strong and bold enough, and the USA weak enough, we can’t be sure that China will afford Japan those few months to develop nukes.

    Japan’s self-defense forces can be quickly overwhelmed by China, which can readily afford to lose several pilots, planes, soldiers, etc., for each one lost by Japan if they get into a life-or-death struggle.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Rosh
    Why exactly would China want to conquer Japan? China has never won a war against Japan. In all the centuries when China was the preeminent world power, it never came close to conquering Japan. The Russians never managed to beat the Japanese either. It took the A-Bomb to do it. An extremely intelligent and cohesive island nation is exceedingly hard to conquer.
    , @bartok

    Japan’s self-defense forces can be quickly overwhelmed by China
     
    Please don't comment on iSteve if you know next to nothing about what you are talking about, re: non-nuclear combat.

    E.g., how does China's massive army reach Japan despite SDF resistance? By boat? Through Siberia? You fool.

    https://monocle.com/magazine/issues/1/naval-gazing/

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  57. What’s more outrageous is to read something like this recent piece from Noah Smith. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-11-30/japan-wants-immigrants-the-feeling-isn-t-mutual

    Even as the Donald Trump administration tries to think up ways to keep talented foreigners out of the U.S., Japan is trying to lure them in. But it’s having trouble getting them to come.

    A lot of people think of Japan as an insular country, but that isn’t actually true. The number of foreigners living in Japan has risen a lot in recent years

    Noah Smith is being deliberately dishonest here. Japan is frequently cited by immigration restrictionists as a very insular country that works to preserve its mostly homogeneous ethnic nation state identity. Japan takes very low numbers of refugees and is extremely selective about the immigrants allowed in, and extremely aggressive about enforcing the immigration limits that it chooses. All of that is true. Noah Smith is flipping the story and writing an interpretation that is the opposite of reality for ideological reasons, to blunt the arguments of immigration restrictionists.

    Trump has consistently advocated moving the US to a skilled immigration system, like what Canada has. That would deliver more benefit to the US and existing citizens. Focusing on less skilled migrants in more dire situations, would generally deliver more value to the foreigners and less value to the US. Again, Noah Smith is flipping it. He’s arguing that Trump is trying to keep talented foreigners out, which is basically the opposite of what Trump has advocated.

    Also, Japan has stressed they are focusing on Asian immigrants, and their society has more naked obvious racism. Noah Smith is flipping it and presenting them as this non-selective, non-racial society.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  58. @TelfoedJohn
    Japan could solve their population problems by banning porn, contraception, and abortion for a couple of years.

    Never thought I’d say it, but perhaps they should also prohibit depiction of homosexual sex and other non-reproductive, disease-spreading perversions.

    Same with the glorification of the mentally ill and/or deeply emotionally troubled people who are being encouraged to be “transgender.”

    In Japan, there are essentially only Japanese people, so abortions kill Japanese babies. By contrast, in the USA we would merely accelerate our decline into Hell by enforcing a ban on abortion: success on that issue would cause (over just two generations’ time) the birth of tens of millions more babies to poor, uneducated, and often irresponsible & relatively unintelligent parents, disproportionately African and Mexican.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  59. @snorlax
    North Korea, China, Ukraine, Lebanese Christians, white South Africans, secular Iranians.

    (None of whom are particularly desirable from the Japanese perspective, just better choices than Afghans).

    How do they know the alleged Christians are not Muslims? Too risky (for Japan or us) to admit anyone from a Muslim-majority country for permanent settlement.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  60. @Spud Boy
    I've been to Japan many times. On one of my first visits, I was walking down the street with one of my Japanese hosts, and I saw a beer vending machine on the street.

    I asked him, "what's to keep minors from buying beer from these machines?"

    He replied, "they just don't do it."

    That my friends, is a society.

    If you believe that, then I ought to change my tag to Nigerian Prince and cut you in on this business deal I’ve got.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's as true as the day is long and also no surprise that this truth offends you.
    , @Twinkie
    I suppose this tells me what I need to know about Nigerians.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  61. @DFH
    There was an article in the Economist last week telling the naughty Chinese to stop being racist to Africans. They even complained (not making this up) about Chinese scientists using race, which everyone in the West knows has been disproven by science.

    “They even complained (not making this up)”

    No, we know you are not making it up. You include that narcissistic phrase to show “Look, what I write is super special! So special that people can’t even believe it’s true!” It’s like laughing at your own jokes.

    Just leave it out it next time and simply write what you have to say.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  62. @RadicalCenter
    Fair point, and I'm checking out your link, thank you :)

    But when China grows strong and bold enough, and the USA weak enough, we can't be sure that China will afford Japan those few months to develop nukes.

    Japan's self-defense forces can be quickly overwhelmed by China, which can readily afford to lose several pilots, planes, soldiers, etc., for each one lost by Japan if they get into a life-or-death struggle.

    Why exactly would China want to conquer Japan? China has never won a war against Japan. In all the centuries when China was the preeminent world power, it never came close to conquering Japan. The Russians never managed to beat the Japanese either. It took the A-Bomb to do it. An extremely intelligent and cohesive island nation is exceedingly hard to conquer.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    The Russians never managed to beat the Japanese either. It took the A-Bomb to do it.
     
    The Russians rolłed up the Japanese in Manchuria in 1945, and were about to take Hokkaido. The Japanese elite welcomed the A Bomb. It gave them a way to capitulate without losing face, and before the Soviets could occupy territory. Without the Bomb, Japan could have been divided like Korea and. Germany.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  63. @Altai

    According to the convention, a refugee is “someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”

    But critics in and out of Japan say the government’s interpretation is too literal and strict.

    Takizawa said that the convention lags behind refugees’ changing circumstances around the world.

    “Regarding applicants who do not fit in the definition of a refugee, Japan should introduce a measure to give them legal protection, rather than a residence permit based on ‘humanitarian consideration,’” he said.

    According to the ministry, applications seeking refugee status were filed by individuals from 82 countries in 2017, most of them in Asia.

    The Philippines, at 4,895, topped the list of applications, followed by Vietnam, at 3,116; Sri Lanka, at 2,226; Indonesia at 2,038; and Nepal, at 1,450.
     

    Am I missing something? Is Manila not safe? Is Hanoi not safe? Is Colombo not safe? Is Jakarta not safe? Is Kathmandu a war zone? Doesn't the Nepalese government famously have a citizen happiness index?

    All of these places are tourist destinations! Only some of these countries have on-going conflicts and they are confined to more rural areas, the big cities are fine.

    The entire massive increase from about 2012 onwards seems to come from economic migrants from other stable Asian countries. That the Philippines tops the list is hardly surprising given the emigration tradition it has developed over the last 40 years, as have all the other countries listed, except maybe Indonesia.

    45 Altai > Is Manila not safe?

    it’s certainly safer than most of California, and Manila is the most dangerous place in the Philippines

    but that’s not why I came here today.

    I came here today to mention that Japan ==does== have a fairly liberal policy about granting residency to people who can prove that they had a Japanese grandparent.

    Many of the beneficiarees are Filipinos, because Japanese, since the 1920′s or so, like to retire to the warmer climate which isn’t THAT far from Nippon itself.

    You arrive in Phils as a 63 year old guy, next thing you know you’ve knocked up some 23 year old province beauty.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    You arrive in Phils as a 63 year old guy, next thing you know you’ve knocked up some 23 year old province beauty.
     
    You say that like it's a bad thing.:-) As a natalist, I heartily approve.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  64. @Ali Choudhury
    Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don't want skilled workers to bring their families over. That is going to put off even the mass-produced H1b drones. Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married. I can't think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something, having the entire country enter old age will make it much poorer over an extended period of time.

    My thanks to the other commentators for sniffing out Ali Choudhury’s feminist-neoliberal horseshit, that sounds like The Economist talking.

    Why do Japanese women have so few children? Let’s put it this way – why should they bother to have more than one or two? Selfishly, they get more leisure time to watch TV, the fewer children they have. And they watch plenty of TV / mobile phone entertainment. Rationally, they can invest more in fewer children, for tutoring, sports, perhaps private high school. Children are a financial burden, not a boon, in a welfare state. In modern first-world countries, money flows from parent to child – rarely does a child make a net contribution in the reverse direction.

    The free K-12 schools are not 100% free, there are extra expenses. Same with free healthcare, you need to save for extra cancer insurance and for cash gifts to surgeons and other specialists. “Onegaishimasu!”

    Plenty of expenses. Though the rent isn’t as damn high as it used to be, buying home is expensive b/c the Japanese are averse to ‘used homes’. They tear down and rebuild as a matter of course.

    The Japanese government has a easy solution to all of this, staring them in the face. Because the Japanese are so conscientious, the government needs only to dangle huge stacks of cash in front of “Baby, maybe?” married couples. Give the equivalent of $150k, cash, for each married couple’s third, fourth, etc. child. Index it to local cost of living so that city dwellers are tempted as well. Have the local mayor deliver it to the hospital room – politicians love to play Santa Kulasu.

    Instead, there is a mild subsidy to parents, handed out annually. Boring!

    The government doesn’t understand that they need to motivate reckless conception with huge cash stacks. Unlike in the US, reckless conception will be decidedly pro-social.

    Instead, the equivalent stacks of cash are squandered on bridges to nowhere. The politically-connected concrete companies should be reassured that a baby boom will require plenty of concrete, by-and-by. They need to sacrifice temporarily for the good of the nation.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
    Thanks for the response Bartok. Other countries like France and Singapore have tried baby cash incentive schemes and wound them down as a) they are really expensive and b) they only tend to encourage the most economically marginal to have children which makes welfare costs go up dramatically. Right now Japan has the worst of both worlds, women who aren't socially allowed to work after marriage and women who refuse to have children because of the economic costs involved.

    It is the working culture that needs serious attention. The young are exploited by large corporations to work irregular, temp jobs and work an insane number of hours. That economic insecurity is a key reason they don't have babies.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/07/japan-mystery-low-birth-rate/534291/

    This isn't a case of a wise people voluntarily making their population smaller, it is down to a vicious cycle of exploitation.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  65. Stories like this make me wonder who really won WWII.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  66. @RadicalCenter
    Fair point, and I'm checking out your link, thank you :)

    But when China grows strong and bold enough, and the USA weak enough, we can't be sure that China will afford Japan those few months to develop nukes.

    Japan's self-defense forces can be quickly overwhelmed by China, which can readily afford to lose several pilots, planes, soldiers, etc., for each one lost by Japan if they get into a life-or-death struggle.

    Japan’s self-defense forces can be quickly overwhelmed by China

    Please don’t comment on iSteve if you know next to nothing about what you are talking about, re: non-nuclear combat.

    E.g., how does China’s massive army reach Japan despite SDF resistance? By boat? Through Siberia? You fool.

    https://monocle.com/magazine/issues/1/naval-gazing/

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  67. @Anonymous
    Japan: doesn't invade the world, thus doesn't invite the world.

    Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.

    Japan invaded the US! Japan invaded China, Korea, and India! Japan was the biggest ally of the Nazis; the actual Nazis. Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.

    Read More
    • Replies: @jlee0
    "Japan invaded the US!" Which part of the US? The Aleutians? And this caused the fall of the West Coast, right? And who was in front of Japanese troops when they "invaded" India? The Indian National Army.
    That Japan was the biggest ally o the Nazis is in fact a lie: Hitler hated the Japanese.

    Buchanan states as such in his book as well
    https://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Hitler-Unnecessary-War-Britain-ebook/dp/B0011UGM3W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519725650&sr=8-1&keywords=churchill+hitler+buchanan

    Please read a book.
    You're welcome.
    , @üeljang
    "Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy."

    Pray tell, which agency is invested with the authority to issue such moral licenses?

    The truth is that Japanese people (well, the Japanese people who matter in such regards, i.e. those at the top) don't give a shit what you or any other non-Japanese person might say or think about them. They certainly would not be swayed by complaints that their assessment of credibility in claims for refugee protection is too strict. What are you suggesting? That they ought to be more lax in their judgment and allow fake "refugees" to infiltrate their country? You must be either a perfect imbecile or a poorly disguised hostile agent.

    You underestimate how cynical and mean-spirited the Japanese are.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  68. @mobi
    https://youtu.be/4aNoZt77dnk

    I don’t think those are Muslim refugees. It was some sort of protest or something in front of the Turkish embassy. I’m not sure who the brawlers were, whether they were Turks or Kurds or something.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The important thing to know about them is that you shouldn't have them in your country.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  69. @Old Palo Altan
    How smugly (and rightly) pleased with themselves must the Japanese be as they watch their victorious enemy of 1945 destroy itself through ideologically driven mass immigration while they keep their superior stock pure - and ready to step into the vaccuum we will leave behind.

    “How smugly (and rightly) pleased with themselves must the Japanese be as they watch their victorious enemy of 1945 destroy itself through ideologically driven mass immigration while they keep their superior stock pure – and ready to step into the vaccuum we will leave behind.”

    You mean mass immigration driven by capitalism. And as far as keeping our “superior stock pure”, that notion went out the window when the English were overrun by the non-English in the Thirteen Colonies.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  70. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    ==QUOTE== That will stop when The Economist is bought out by the Chinese ;) Or by some Muslim “Briton” who wants to curry favor with the new Chinese overlords of the world. ==UNQUOTE==

    "Curry" favor? Isn't that cultural appropriation? Kind of like this 1964 Japanese commercial that "Even an Indian will be surprised (at the good taste of S&B Curry)":
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSm0KUlcK-E

    Japanese curry for kari katsu is delicious but unrecognizably distinct from Indian stuff, you could never fail to tell then apart.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  71. I just love the ornery Japanese.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  72. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’m a resident of Japan … technically, I’m an immigrant to Japan, with an immigrant visa, having lived half my life here.

    Yesterday in front of my train station there was a group of nice Japanese collecting money for or otherwise promoting an outfit called the OHCHR. There were posters of migrants in boats or along roads, with captions like “They just want to get to Europe.” There were no blacks in the photos, and many children. I wish I had stopped to chat with the folks to figure out what they were doing, but I kind of felt that my true feelings would come through and poison the mood. There are several far-left political parties in Japan, so I assume this had something to do with that.

    In the mainstream media there is zero attention paid to immigrant applicants to Japan or numbers accepted. I don’t think anyone cares. On the other hand, the nationality of criminals or criminal suspects is gleefully reported. A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar. The news is reporting on the details of how he transported each severed body part to each disposal location, with detailed map graphics. Unfortunately, he left the head for last, and the police were on to him by then and found it in his apartment.

    Japanese are really nice, and in theory you could jujitsu this to convince them to admit poor, suffering migrants, but the media would overreport the slightest malfeasance and put a stop to it.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar.
     
    Funny how you call him a "New Yorker" as I notice the MSM is careful to refer to him as an 'American'. He's definitely got one of those salt-of-the-earth midwestern monikers.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    " the media would overreport the slightest malfeasance and put a stop to it"

    It must be owned and run by ethnic Japanese.
    , @LondonBob
    Amazing what can happen when the national media of a country reflects the demographic make up of that country and it isn't stuffed with a minority with high verbal IQ fanatically dedicated to unlimited immigration of all sorts.

    I was at a party with two half Japanese and half Europeans, they both complained that when in Japan they just weren't accepted at all, Japanese are much more xenophobic, even allowing for the absence of a hostile dominant minority in their country.
    , @al gore rhythms
    So the Japanese far left raise money for migrants to get to Europe?

    I suppose I admire them for not taking a dump on their own doorstep. But as a European, could you ask them next time not to pay for people to come and take a dump on mine?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  73. If only India could be more like Japan!

    redpillindian.blogspot.com

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  74. @bartok
    My thanks to the other commentators for sniffing out Ali Choudhury's feminist-neoliberal horseshit, that sounds like The Economist talking.

    Why do Japanese women have so few children? Let's put it this way - why should they bother to have more than one or two? Selfishly, they get more leisure time to watch TV, the fewer children they have. And they watch plenty of TV / mobile phone entertainment. Rationally, they can invest more in fewer children, for tutoring, sports, perhaps private high school. Children are a financial burden, not a boon, in a welfare state. In modern first-world countries, money flows from parent to child - rarely does a child make a net contribution in the reverse direction.

    The free K-12 schools are not 100% free, there are extra expenses. Same with free healthcare, you need to save for extra cancer insurance and for cash gifts to surgeons and other specialists. "Onegaishimasu!"

    Plenty of expenses. Though the rent isn't as damn high as it used to be, buying home is expensive b/c the Japanese are averse to 'used homes'. They tear down and rebuild as a matter of course.

    The Japanese government has a easy solution to all of this, staring them in the face. Because the Japanese are so conscientious, the government needs only to dangle huge stacks of cash in front of "Baby, maybe?" married couples. Give the equivalent of $150k, cash, for each married couple's third, fourth, etc. child. Index it to local cost of living so that city dwellers are tempted as well. Have the local mayor deliver it to the hospital room - politicians love to play Santa Kulasu.

    Instead, there is a mild subsidy to parents, handed out annually. Boring!

    The government doesn't understand that they need to motivate reckless conception with huge cash stacks. Unlike in the US, reckless conception will be decidedly pro-social.

    Instead, the equivalent stacks of cash are squandered on bridges to nowhere. The politically-connected concrete companies should be reassured that a baby boom will require plenty of concrete, by-and-by. They need to sacrifice temporarily for the good of the nation.

    Thanks for the response Bartok. Other countries like France and Singapore have tried baby cash incentive schemes and wound them down as a) they are really expensive and b) they only tend to encourage the most economically marginal to have children which makes welfare costs go up dramatically. Right now Japan has the worst of both worlds, women who aren’t socially allowed to work after marriage and women who refuse to have children because of the economic costs involved.

    It is the working culture that needs serious attention. The young are exploited by large corporations to work irregular, temp jobs and work an insane number of hours. That economic insecurity is a key reason they don’t have babies.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/07/japan-mystery-low-birth-rate/534291/

    This isn’t a case of a wise people voluntarily making their population smaller, it is down to a vicious cycle of exploitation.

    Read More
    • Replies: @European-American
    Similar in Taiwan. Low salaries, hard work culture, few good jobs. Real estate prohibitively expensive for young couples.

    Same problems in South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong?...

    For whatever reason, the smartest countries are also the ones with the lowest birth rates.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/268083/countries-with-the-lowest-fertility-rates/

    And China has the same birth rate problem. Its mega cities have crazy low birth rates, but remain somewhat healthy due to... massive immigration. From inside China, of course.
    https://www.economist.com/news/china/21729573-no-province-has-many-babies-some-shortfalls-are-much-worse-others-chinas-demographic
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  75. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Japan accepts foreigners on non-immigrant visas, but they have reasonably tough requirements for that, the same as the United States. And as a matter of treaty reciprocity, the nationals of countries like Canada and Australia can come to Japan for a half a year and work part time. Also, a normal 90-day visitor visa is granted no questions asked if there is treaty reciprocity (there isn’t with the U.S.). This has been abused, but the Japanese have decent computer systems to track visitors: An overseas freelancer journalist was famoustly bounced out at Narita a few years ago for coming into the country on his fourth or so sequential 90-day tourist visa. He conned the Economist into writing a scathing and xenophobic article on this incident, before the visa scam was revealed, and eventually got back in by applying for a proper journalism visa at the consulate in his country.

    Japan also has a lot of sub-Saharan construction workers who come here on tourist visas to work. The authorities look the other way. Japanese don’t want to do 3K jobs, which stands for kitsui, kitanai, kiken, or hard, dirty, and dangerous. (Hilariously, the former name for these jobs was KKK, but someone pointed out the meaning overseas.) These workers can be expelled at any time, of course. The authorities just have to notice that they are there and round them up. Various economic pressures and government-industry relations with the construction industry have worked to inhibit noticing. A couple of severed-head murders might change that.

    Japan, like most every country except the United States, has no problem expelling illegals when they feel like it. A few years ago there was a widely reported explusion of a Filipino woman and her junior high age daughter, who only spoke Japanese. The daughter was popular at school, and the authorities allowed them to stay just long enough for the media to air distraught pleas from her classmates before sending them back. My feeling was that they wanted to send a message.

    If you follow the news, you’ll see reports of similar deportations from Australia and Canada, particularly in the case where a family member would incur especially high government subsidized lifetime medical or care bills.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Basically right, but some of this is out of date. For example, US citizens do get visa-on-arrival tourist visa with no questions asked.

    Also, there's no "immigrant visa." Maybe you're on Permanent Residency visa? If so, you're still not an immigrant. Sorry.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  76. @Spud Boy
    I've been to Japan many times. On one of my first visits, I was walking down the street with one of my Japanese hosts, and I saw a beer vending machine on the street.

    I asked him, "what's to keep minors from buying beer from these machines?"

    He replied, "they just don't do it."

    That my friends, is a society.

    I’m very seriously considering retiring to suburban Tokyo in my 50s, if I live that long….the safe streets being one of the main lures….

    Read More
    • Replies: @Truth
    You can't, Sport. They don't take refugees from inferior populations.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  77. @Nigerian Nationalist
    If you believe that, then I ought to change my tag to Nigerian Prince and cut you in on this business deal I've got.

    It’s as true as the day is long and also no surprise that this truth offends you.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    So a half-truth then. Those who buy just ain't caught.

    Why would a tall tale offend me? What next will? big foot's existence...

    Unlike your children--soldiers aside of course-- I'm no snowflake.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  78. @White Guy In Japan
    Also, if you lose your wallet or purse, 99% chance it will be turned in to the police and returned to you. Cash intact. That is civilization with a capital "C".

    @Barnard
    I have never seen ID scan required for beer/sake vending machines. Cigarette machines, yes.

    Japan is close to being a nation which does everything right. Not perfect–what’s perfect? But the ire in the MSM in this country when Japan is mentioned is telling, all right. Japan is a standing rebuke to the endless internal contradictions rife in MSM narratives. Can’t have that.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  79. @al gore rhythms
    And me. There's something about the Japanese that reminds me of Scandinavians. In another universe I could imagine a contemporary Sweden as being something like modern Japan. I think many Sailerites and alt-righters would give the same answer, too.

    But it makes me wonder what other ethnic groups people here would choose to be, and for what reasons?

    'Jew' would be an obvious answer for all sorts of comedy and genuine reasons. But who else? The choices are pretty thin.

    And me. And BTW the “Jew” thing only works if your mom’s a shiksa and your dad’s a billionaire. Then I guess it’s worth it.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  80. @RadicalCenter
    The Japs may find themselves high on the list for historical retribution as China thoroughly eclipses the USA and Europe (COMBINED) in economic and military might.

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn't acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    Well, there is one country exactly midway between China and Japan, and it already has nukes and delivery systems. Granted there may be a complication or two, but still.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  81. @Anonymous
    I don't think those are Muslim refugees. It was some sort of protest or something in front of the Turkish embassy. I'm not sure who the brawlers were, whether they were Turks or Kurds or something.

    The important thing to know about them is that you shouldn’t have them in your country.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  82. @Rosh
    Why exactly would China want to conquer Japan? China has never won a war against Japan. In all the centuries when China was the preeminent world power, it never came close to conquering Japan. The Russians never managed to beat the Japanese either. It took the A-Bomb to do it. An extremely intelligent and cohesive island nation is exceedingly hard to conquer.

    The Russians never managed to beat the Japanese either. It took the A-Bomb to do it.

    The Russians rolłed up the Japanese in Manchuria in 1945, and were about to take Hokkaido. The Japanese elite welcomed the A Bomb. It gave them a way to capitulate without losing face, and before the Soviets could occupy territory. Without the Bomb, Japan could have been divided like Korea and. Germany.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    and were about to take Hokkaido

    How?

    , @Rosh
    Why are Russian propagandists so tedious and irksome? There is zero evidence that the Japanese surrendered because they were afraid of Soviets. Only a people as defective as Russians would consider it a proud accomplishment to steal some cold rocky islands from a country that just got nuclear bombs dropped on it. Japan and Russia fought a one-on-one war once, and Russia got embarrassed.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  83. When you board an ANA flight, the first thing you notice is that all the flight attendants are Japanese. No ‘diversity’ token recruitment there. And the in-flight service is stellar. Same thing at the airports in Tokyo – they look and feel First World, reminiscent of what the USA used to be pre-1990.

    Read More
    • Replies: @jim jones
    ANA is my favourite airline:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltQLETqeYkA
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Whereas you arrive in London and most of the Heathrow workforce are Asian or black. It's hard to tell a London immigration desk from a Delhi one.
    , @Anon87
    When faced with ANA or United, always take ANA!!
    , @Twinkie
    Singapore Airlines is multi-ethnic and it’s service is even better than that of ANA.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  84. the relevant question is: what happens to the approx. 20 000 applicants who do not granted refugee status?
    At least in Germany the real problem is not the acceptance of refugees, but the fact almost everybody who enters Germany once claiming to be a refugee will never leave Germany again (apart from traveling).

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  85. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm a resident of Japan ... technically, I'm an immigrant to Japan, with an immigrant visa, having lived half my life here.

    Yesterday in front of my train station there was a group of nice Japanese collecting money for or otherwise promoting an outfit called the OHCHR. There were posters of migrants in boats or along roads, with captions like "They just want to get to Europe." There were no blacks in the photos, and many children. I wish I had stopped to chat with the folks to figure out what they were doing, but I kind of felt that my true feelings would come through and poison the mood. There are several far-left political parties in Japan, so I assume this had something to do with that.

    In the mainstream media there is zero attention paid to immigrant applicants to Japan or numbers accepted. I don't think anyone cares. On the other hand, the nationality of criminals or criminal suspects is gleefully reported. A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar. The news is reporting on the details of how he transported each severed body part to each disposal location, with detailed map graphics. Unfortunately, he left the head for last, and the police were on to him by then and found it in his apartment.

    Japanese are really nice, and in theory you could jujitsu this to convince them to admit poor, suffering migrants, but the media would overreport the slightest malfeasance and put a stop to it.

    A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar.

    Funny how you call him a “New Yorker” as I notice the MSM is careful to refer to him as an ‘American’. He’s definitely got one of those salt-of-the-earth midwestern monikers.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Indeed.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5438589/American-man-leads-police-body-parts-Japanese-woman.html
    This article ends thus:

    On Monday reporters from a flurry of news stations from around the world were on the block of Mastic Beach in Long Island where Bayraktar lived. He moved there with his mother and her husband about a decade ago, neighbor Luanne Pisano told the New York Daily News.

    'He seemed OK, I didn't really talk to him,' Pisano said, explaining that she was stunned by the allegations.

    'It scares me. I have a daughter... These days you can't tell who's who.'

    Nippon TV reported that the man's parents denied allegations, and said Bayraktar had always dreamed about marrying a Japanese woman.

    Another neighbor John Motovidlak said Bayraktar's family was friendly, and 'beautiful people.'

    'They wave, they smile and say "good evening,'
    " he told NBC 4.
     
    You don't describe core American as good because they smile, wave, and say good evening. You describe foreigners that way--i.e., they weren't really Americans even though the MSM isn't reporting that.

    Incidentally, my girlfriend is from near where he buried the victim's legs. She calls him an American, too, to my great chagrin.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  86. @German_reader

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?
     
    Japan could develop nukes and ICBMs within a few months:
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/japan-could-have-icbm-less-year-says-expert-24183
    Their "self-defense" forces also seem to be well-equipped and competent.

    They'll be fine as long as they stick to their policy of keeping out "refugees" and other aliens.

    I used to work on Capitol Hill and had responsibilities vis-à-vis the nuclear weapons facilities of the Department of Energy. In the 1990s DOE told us that Japan could have a nuclear weapon within six weeks of a political decision to acquire one. The Japanese are quite familiar with plutonium from their breeder reactor program and the explosive lenses necessary to achieve a controlled implosion are well within the capabilities of today’s commercial blasting technology. I don’t know how many nuclear weapons the Japanese could have or how they would plan to deliver them.

    I think a Chinese invasion of Japan is very unlikely. China tends to be quite restrained in its foreign policy except when it considers something to be a domestic matter (e.g., Taiwan or Tibet).

    By the way, I always appreciate and look forward to your comments!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  87. @RadicalCenter
    The Japs may find themselves high on the list for historical retribution as China thoroughly eclipses the USA and Europe (COMBINED) in economic and military might.

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn't acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    Who is going to stop China from taking Japan, particularly if Japan doesn’t acquire nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    There’s no point.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  88. A close Japanese friend recently got their results back from 23andme.

    Mostly Japanese, of course. But..

    You most likely had a fourth-great-grandparent, fifth-great-grandparent, sixth-great-grandparent, or seventh-great (or greater) grandparent who was 100% Native American. This person was likely born between 1700 and 1790.

    Any ideas are appreciated.

    My guess is that the Dutch East India Company chartered American ships in the late 1700′s and early 1800′s apparently and one of these had an Indian amongst the crew who jumped off in Japan and pretended to be Ainu or something.

    Or is there the possibility that 23andme screwed something up, or something? They said that there was no haplogroup connected to this ancestor.

    It’s a curious result.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Flip
    I would guess that it is reflecting shared Siberian ancestry in north Asians and American Indians.
    , @Anon87
    Was that from the default 50% confidence data? That's mostly junk and noise. Adjust it to 90% and see if that ancestry goes away.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  89. @Peter Akuleyev

    The Russians never managed to beat the Japanese either. It took the A-Bomb to do it.
     
    The Russians rolłed up the Japanese in Manchuria in 1945, and were about to take Hokkaido. The Japanese elite welcomed the A Bomb. It gave them a way to capitulate without losing face, and before the Soviets could occupy territory. Without the Bomb, Japan could have been divided like Korea and. Germany.

    and were about to take Hokkaido

    How?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    Hokkaido was originally the next step in the Soviet battle plan after they took South Sakhalin. It would have been much easier to invade than Honshu and was far less well defended, especially by August 1945. It was not a major logistical effort to ferry troops there from Sakhalin. Admiral Yumashev had invasion plans drawn up,and the Soviets were already doing reconnaissance along the coast when Japan surrendered. The Soviets even wanted to occupy Hokkaido after the surrender, but Truman put his foot down and told them to stay in Sakhalin. Stalin was supposedly pretty miffed about that, but we had the bomb at that point and the USSR didn't.

    There are a number of Japanese who believe to this day the spectre of Soviet occupation was more scary to the Japanese than the bomb and was real reason the Emperor surrendered. The fate of Korea proved that the Japanese were prescient.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  90. Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The Russians would have ferried some troops to post-war Japan if they were allowed to, but they didn't intend to invade Japan against either Japanese or American opposition. Their military wasn't set up for that.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  91. @Steve Sailer
    and were about to take Hokkaido

    How?

    Hokkaido was originally the next step in the Soviet battle plan after they took South Sakhalin. It would have been much easier to invade than Honshu and was far less well defended, especially by August 1945. It was not a major logistical effort to ferry troops there from Sakhalin. Admiral Yumashev had invasion plans drawn up,and the Soviets were already doing reconnaissance along the coast when Japan surrendered. The Soviets even wanted to occupy Hokkaido after the surrender, but Truman put his foot down and told them to stay in Sakhalin. Stalin was supposedly pretty miffed about that, but we had the bomb at that point and the USSR didn’t.

    There are a number of Japanese who believe to this day the spectre of Soviet occupation was more scary to the Japanese than the bomb and was real reason the Emperor surrendered. The fate of Korea proved that the Japanese were prescient.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  92. @wren
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/05/stalin_japan_hiroshima_occupation_hokkaido/

    The Russians would have ferried some troops to post-war Japan if they were allowed to, but they didn’t intend to invade Japan against either Japanese or American opposition. Their military wasn’t set up for that.

    Read More
    • Replies: @jlee1
    guess the taking of the Northern Territories, after Japan surrendered, was not a Russian invasion.

    http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/russia/territory/overview.html
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    Their military wasn’t set up for that.

    Based on what? The Soviets certainly did not want to challenge the Americans, but ferrying over experienced Soviet troops to roll over the remnants of the Japanese Imperial Army in 1945 would have been easy pickings. Especially since Soviet air superiority over Hokkaido would have been immense by that point.

    The Japanese were very afraid of the Soviets. The Soviets beat the Japanese decisively in 1939 at Khalkin Gol, which is one reason the Japanese decided they were better off attacking the Americans than joining Hitler against the USSR. The Japanese Navy was good, but the land Army was not particularly good, and spoiled by years of occupying China.
    , @wren
    That Foreign Policy article includes a link to some original plans to invade Hokkaido, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/122335

    I don't know the provenance of the document, nor whether it was actually the kind of military contingency plan that militaries always have to have ready should a politician suddenly ask them to do something, but according to the article, the guy who wrote it was disappointed that they didn't try to take Hokkaido. He later became the "Soviet Minister of the Navy."

    According to the article, too, Stalin later regretted that he hadn't taken Hokkaido. He didn't care about Yalta by 1950.

    Anyway, Stalin never sent the go-ahead.

    Thank goodness.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  93. @Massimo Heitor

    Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.

     

    Japan invaded the US! Japan invaded China, Korea, and India! Japan was the biggest ally of the Nazis; the actual Nazis. Since WW2, Japan hasn't been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.

    “Japan invaded the US!” Which part of the US? The Aleutians? And this caused the fall of the West Coast, right? And who was in front of Japanese troops when they “invaded” India? The Indian National Army.
    That Japan was the biggest ally o the Nazis is in fact a lie: Hitler hated the Japanese.

    Buchanan states as such in his book as well

    https://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Hitler-Unnecessary-War-Britain-ebook/dp/B0011UGM3W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519725650&sr=8-1&keywords=churchill+hitler+buchanan

    Please read a book.
    You’re welcome.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  94. @MG
    When you board an ANA flight, the first thing you notice is that all the flight attendants are Japanese. No ‘diversity’ token recruitment there. And the in-flight service is stellar. Same thing at the airports in Tokyo - they look and feel First World, reminiscent of what the USA used to be pre-1990.

    ANA is my favourite airline:

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  95. @Steve Sailer
    The Russians would have ferried some troops to post-war Japan if they were allowed to, but they didn't intend to invade Japan against either Japanese or American opposition. Their military wasn't set up for that.

    guess the taking of the Northern Territories, after Japan surrendered, was not a Russian invasion.

    http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/russia/territory/overview.html

    Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That was agreed to at Yalta.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  96. @DFH
    There was an article in the Economist last week telling the naughty Chinese to stop being racist to Africans. They even complained (not making this up) about Chinese scientists using race, which everyone in the West knows has been disproven by science.

    If only Western countries were as intelligent as east Asian countries….we would have slammed the door shut decades ago.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  97. @Anonymous
    I'm a resident of Japan ... technically, I'm an immigrant to Japan, with an immigrant visa, having lived half my life here.

    Yesterday in front of my train station there was a group of nice Japanese collecting money for or otherwise promoting an outfit called the OHCHR. There were posters of migrants in boats or along roads, with captions like "They just want to get to Europe." There were no blacks in the photos, and many children. I wish I had stopped to chat with the folks to figure out what they were doing, but I kind of felt that my true feelings would come through and poison the mood. There are several far-left political parties in Japan, so I assume this had something to do with that.

    In the mainstream media there is zero attention paid to immigrant applicants to Japan or numbers accepted. I don't think anyone cares. On the other hand, the nationality of criminals or criminal suspects is gleefully reported. A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar. The news is reporting on the details of how he transported each severed body part to each disposal location, with detailed map graphics. Unfortunately, he left the head for last, and the police were on to him by then and found it in his apartment.

    Japanese are really nice, and in theory you could jujitsu this to convince them to admit poor, suffering migrants, but the media would overreport the slightest malfeasance and put a stop to it.

    ” the media would overreport the slightest malfeasance and put a stop to it”

    It must be owned and run by ethnic Japanese.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  98. @MG
    When you board an ANA flight, the first thing you notice is that all the flight attendants are Japanese. No ‘diversity’ token recruitment there. And the in-flight service is stellar. Same thing at the airports in Tokyo - they look and feel First World, reminiscent of what the USA used to be pre-1990.

    Whereas you arrive in London and most of the Heathrow workforce are Asian or black. It’s hard to tell a London immigration desk from a Delhi one.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  99. @jlee1
    guess the taking of the Northern Territories, after Japan surrendered, was not a Russian invasion.

    http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/russia/territory/overview.html

    That was agreed to at Yalta.

    Read More
    • Replies: @jlee1
    , which was a secret agreement, not a treaty.
    E.g. "Hey Steve. My brother & and I secretly agreed that we now own your house. Now get out."
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  100. @Massimo Heitor

    Japan: doesn’t invade the world, thus doesn’t invite the world.

     

    Japan invaded the US! Japan invaded China, Korea, and India! Japan was the biggest ally of the Nazis; the actual Nazis. Since WW2, Japan hasn't been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.

    “Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.”

    Pray tell, which agency is invested with the authority to issue such moral licenses?

    The truth is that Japanese people (well, the Japanese people who matter in such regards, i.e. those at the top) don’t give a shit what you or any other non-Japanese person might say or think about them. They certainly would not be swayed by complaints that their assessment of credibility in claims for refugee protection is too strict. What are you suggesting? That they ought to be more lax in their judgment and allow fake “refugees” to infiltrate their country? You must be either a perfect imbecile or a poorly disguised hostile agent.

    You underestimate how cynical and mean-spirited the Japanese are.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    “Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.”

    Pray tell, which agency is invested with the authority to issue such moral licenses?
     
    Who pushed the immigration and multicultural initiatives on the US and Europe? It wasn't one agency, it was a modest number of powerful western elites who were passionate about their agenda and got broader cultural buy in.

    The truth is that Japanese people (well, the Japanese people who matter in such regards, i.e. those at the top) don’t give a shit what you or any other non-Japanese person might say or think about them.

     

    That may be true. But the simple fact is that Japan has not faced the aggressive relentless pressure and cultural warfare that have targeted the US and Europe.

    I suspect, the broad left needs to keep their message simple, they have built narratives and this aggressive repeated rhetoric promoting ethnic white villains and racism. I don't think it's in their interest to confuse this messaging with non-white villains.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  101. @Anonymous
    I'm a resident of Japan ... technically, I'm an immigrant to Japan, with an immigrant visa, having lived half my life here.

    Yesterday in front of my train station there was a group of nice Japanese collecting money for or otherwise promoting an outfit called the OHCHR. There were posters of migrants in boats or along roads, with captions like "They just want to get to Europe." There were no blacks in the photos, and many children. I wish I had stopped to chat with the folks to figure out what they were doing, but I kind of felt that my true feelings would come through and poison the mood. There are several far-left political parties in Japan, so I assume this had something to do with that.

    In the mainstream media there is zero attention paid to immigrant applicants to Japan or numbers accepted. I don't think anyone cares. On the other hand, the nationality of criminals or criminal suspects is gleefully reported. A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar. The news is reporting on the details of how he transported each severed body part to each disposal location, with detailed map graphics. Unfortunately, he left the head for last, and the police were on to him by then and found it in his apartment.

    Japanese are really nice, and in theory you could jujitsu this to convince them to admit poor, suffering migrants, but the media would overreport the slightest malfeasance and put a stop to it.

    Amazing what can happen when the national media of a country reflects the demographic make up of that country and it isn’t stuffed with a minority with high verbal IQ fanatically dedicated to unlimited immigration of all sorts.

    I was at a party with two half Japanese and half Europeans, they both complained that when in Japan they just weren’t accepted at all, Japanese are much more xenophobic, even allowing for the absence of a hostile dominant minority in their country.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  102. Diversity Heretic says:
    February 27, 2018 at 7:03 am GMT • 100 Words

    “I used to work on Capitol Hill and had responsibilities vis-à-vis the nuclear weapons facilities of the Department of Energy. In the 1990s DOE told us that Japan could have a nuclear weapon within six weeks of a political decision to acquire one. The Japanese are quite familiar with plutonium from their breeder reactor program and the explosive lenses necessary to achieve a controlled implosion are well within the capabilities of today’s commercial blasting technology. I don’t know how many nuclear weapons the Japanese could have or how they would plan to deliver them.”

    It’s called having a ‘Bomb in the basement’ Japan’s sitting on a mountain of Plutonium designed to run fast breeder reactors which don’t exist.

    http://www.atimes.com/article/japans-plutonium-proliferation-energy/

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  103. @Steve Sailer
    The Russians would have ferried some troops to post-war Japan if they were allowed to, but they didn't intend to invade Japan against either Japanese or American opposition. Their military wasn't set up for that.

    Their military wasn’t set up for that.

    Based on what? The Soviets certainly did not want to challenge the Americans, but ferrying over experienced Soviet troops to roll over the remnants of the Japanese Imperial Army in 1945 would have been easy pickings. Especially since Soviet air superiority over Hokkaido would have been immense by that point.

    The Japanese were very afraid of the Soviets. The Soviets beat the Japanese decisively in 1939 at Khalkin Gol, which is one reason the Japanese decided they were better off attacking the Americans than joining Hitler against the USSR. The Japanese Navy was good, but the land Army was not particularly good, and spoiled by years of occupying China.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Yngvar
    Whole divisions surrendered without a shot being fired when "confronted" with platoons from the Soviet army vanguard. Amazing. No 'spirit of Bushido' when the Japanese met the mongol horde.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  104. Japan maintains tough stance on refugees, only 20 accepted in 2017

    Even so, refugees managed to gang rape a native (though in 2016, when admittedly there were 28 of them).

    https://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/02/22/tokyo-cops-arrest-turkish-asylum-seekers-in-gang-rape-of-woman/

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  105. @Anonymous

    A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar.
     
    Funny how you call him a "New Yorker" as I notice the MSM is careful to refer to him as an 'American'. He's definitely got one of those salt-of-the-earth midwestern monikers.

    Indeed.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5438589/American-man-leads-police-body-parts-Japanese-woman.html

    This article ends thus:

    On Monday reporters from a flurry of news stations from around the world were on the block of Mastic Beach in Long Island where Bayraktar lived. He moved there with his mother and her husband about a decade ago, neighbor Luanne Pisano told the New York Daily News.

    ‘He seemed OK, I didn’t really talk to him,’ Pisano said, explaining that she was stunned by the allegations.

    ‘It scares me. I have a daughter… These days you can’t tell who’s who.’

    Nippon TV reported that the man’s parents denied allegations, and said Bayraktar had always dreamed about marrying a Japanese woman.

    Another neighbor John Motovidlak said Bayraktar’s family was friendly, and ‘beautiful people.’

    ‘They wave, they smile and say “good evening,’” he told NBC 4.

    You don’t describe core American as good because they smile, wave, and say good evening. You describe foreigners that way–i.e., they weren’t really Americans even though the MSM isn’t reporting that.

    Incidentally, my girlfriend is from near where he buried the victim’s legs. She calls him an American, too, to my great chagrin.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  106. @Anonymous
    Japan accepts foreigners on non-immigrant visas, but they have reasonably tough requirements for that, the same as the United States. And as a matter of treaty reciprocity, the nationals of countries like Canada and Australia can come to Japan for a half a year and work part time. Also, a normal 90-day visitor visa is granted no questions asked if there is treaty reciprocity (there isn't with the U.S.). This has been abused, but the Japanese have decent computer systems to track visitors: An overseas freelancer journalist was famoustly bounced out at Narita a few years ago for coming into the country on his fourth or so sequential 90-day tourist visa. He conned the Economist into writing a scathing and xenophobic article on this incident, before the visa scam was revealed, and eventually got back in by applying for a proper journalism visa at the consulate in his country.

    Japan also has a lot of sub-Saharan construction workers who come here on tourist visas to work. The authorities look the other way. Japanese don't want to do 3K jobs, which stands for kitsui, kitanai, kiken, or hard, dirty, and dangerous. (Hilariously, the former name for these jobs was KKK, but someone pointed out the meaning overseas.) These workers can be expelled at any time, of course. The authorities just have to notice that they are there and round them up. Various economic pressures and government-industry relations with the construction industry have worked to inhibit noticing. A couple of severed-head murders might change that.

    Japan, like most every country except the United States, has no problem expelling illegals when they feel like it. A few years ago there was a widely reported explusion of a Filipino woman and her junior high age daughter, who only spoke Japanese. The daughter was popular at school, and the authorities allowed them to stay just long enough for the media to air distraught pleas from her classmates before sending them back. My feeling was that they wanted to send a message.

    If you follow the news, you'll see reports of similar deportations from Australia and Canada, particularly in the case where a family member would incur especially high government subsidized lifetime medical or care bills.

    Basically right, but some of this is out of date. For example, US citizens do get visa-on-arrival tourist visa with no questions asked.

    Also, there’s no “immigrant visa.” Maybe you’re on Permanent Residency visa? If so, you’re still not an immigrant. Sorry.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    My Japanese visa is an "eijyu" visa, or 永住許可. This would be the equivalent in Japan of a United States unsponsored permanent residency visa. Unsponsored green cards such as diversity visas (type DV) are like this.

    A permanent residency visa is obviously not a non-immigrant visa ... so it's an immigrant visa. There is no specific "immigrant" category outside the visa system in either United States or Japanese law. In Japanese immigration law there is a special category of permanent residency equivalent to citizenship that is given to Korean-origin residents who for reasons of conscience do not want to take Japanese citizenship. But that's the only thing between an eijyu visa and naturalization. The status of immigrant does not imply or require citizenship. It implies the intent to remain permanently and the recognition of that by the govenmental authorities. Non-immigrant visas on the other hand are awarded on assertion of the person receiving them that he will return to his home country eventually. Of course, outside of immigration law there is a more general, loose, "Merriam-Webster" meaning of immigrant.

    This is the complete list of immigration status categories, using U.S. terminology:

    - Illegal alien (rude, but still the statutory term)

    - Refugee or Asylee Applicant

    - Refugee (a status limited to one year, during which you have to apply for immigrant status)

    - Asylee (indefinite term)

    - Non-immigrant (a huge category, complete list here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/all-visa-categories.html

    - Immigrant (list also at above URL)

    - Naturalized citizen

    - Citizen (native born or statutory)
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  107. I seem to recall reading that NY Times owns Asahi Shimbun, but I did not see anything about it from searching for 2 minutes.

    The Economist cannot write two words about Japan without bitching about immigration. I think they are jealous that the Japanese get to keep their country while the UK gets flushed into a sewer.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  108. @White Guy In Japan
    Also, if you lose your wallet or purse, 99% chance it will be turned in to the police and returned to you. Cash intact. That is civilization with a capital "C".

    @Barnard
    I have never seen ID scan required for beer/sake vending machines. Cigarette machines, yes.

    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was “turned in” to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who “turned it in” didn’t want any reward.

    Read More
    • Replies: @mobi

    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was “turned in” to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who “turned it in” didn’t want any reward.
     
    I surveyed my Korean adult students more than once on 'what would Koreans do with a found wallet'. Almost unanimously - 'Return it via mail or police, minus the cash'. They thought it was obvious they were entitled to the cash, and not the rest.

    I left a handful of cash on a park bench on the (deserted) oceanfront in central Fukuoka. I got a block or two away before realizing and turning back. Initially, I hurried a bit, but then I thought - 'calm down - this is Japan. Everybody knows it will still be there in a month.' So I slowed down.

    It was gone. Maybe I should have checked the local police station.
    , @Anonymous
    I left my wallet on top of a public phone next to a police box, where a finder would normally turn it in. In this case the finder called me up and wanted to meet. He returned the wallet, but I had to listen to a pitch trying to recruit me into a multilevel marketing scam that he was involved in. He saw me as his entre into the lucrative gaijin market, apparently.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  109. @scrivener3
    Japanese are having very few children. They are rubbing themselves out. Everyone seems to think the lot of a Japanese (salaryman's) wife is pretty dismal with his work centered socializing at night, so maybe instead of feminism it is some sort of masculine ethic that got off track. It does seem the Japanese take anything to an extreme, like ten years internship to learn how to grind wasabi.

    More like 10 years internship to learn how to grind sesame!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  110. @Pat Boyle
    Of course we are a much bigger country than Japan so we could take in more. Something around 50 or 60 sounds right.

    LOL, yo Paddy, you and Jim Bob in comment #1 prove that geniuses congregate together.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Pat Boyle
    In the sixties I read a lot of books on over population. I remember reading Erlich and Borgstrom. But that is no longer fashionable. That doesn't mean we solved the problem. At one time it looked like we were going to starve. But then came the "Green Revolution" and folks figured we had solved population problems forever.

    But this year is approximately the time predicted in the movie "Soylent Green". We should wall off all immigrants - not just the illegal ones. What is the reason for the Fermi Question? Maybe its because advanced civilizations eat beyond their means.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  111. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    Basically right, but some of this is out of date. For example, US citizens do get visa-on-arrival tourist visa with no questions asked.

    Also, there's no "immigrant visa." Maybe you're on Permanent Residency visa? If so, you're still not an immigrant. Sorry.

    My Japanese visa is an “eijyu” visa, or 永住許可. This would be the equivalent in Japan of a United States unsponsored permanent residency visa. Unsponsored green cards such as diversity visas (type DV) are like this.

    A permanent residency visa is obviously not a non-immigrant visa … so it’s an immigrant visa. There is no specific “immigrant” category outside the visa system in either United States or Japanese law. In Japanese immigration law there is a special category of permanent residency equivalent to citizenship that is given to Korean-origin residents who for reasons of conscience do not want to take Japanese citizenship. But that’s the only thing between an eijyu visa and naturalization. The status of immigrant does not imply or require citizenship. It implies the intent to remain permanently and the recognition of that by the govenmental authorities. Non-immigrant visas on the other hand are awarded on assertion of the person receiving them that he will return to his home country eventually. Of course, outside of immigration law there is a more general, loose, “Merriam-Webster” meaning of immigrant.

    This is the complete list of immigration status categories, using U.S. terminology:

    - Illegal alien (rude, but still the statutory term)

    - Refugee or Asylee Applicant

    - Refugee (a status limited to one year, during which you have to apply for immigrant status)

    - Asylee (indefinite term)

    - Non-immigrant (a huge category, complete list here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/all-visa-categories.html

    - Immigrant (list also at above URL)

    - Naturalized citizen

    - Citizen (native born or statutory)

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  112. @Spud Boy
    I've been to Japan many times. On one of my first visits, I was walking down the street with one of my Japanese hosts, and I saw a beer vending machine on the street.

    I asked him, "what's to keep minors from buying beer from these machines?"

    He replied, "they just don't do it."

    That my friends, is a society.

    That my friends, is a society.

    Yeah…a society with some punk-ass boys.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    Right. Of course YOU prefer more vibrant boys instead. After all, in a world of 80 IQ boys, the one with 90 IQ is king.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  113. @Neoconned
    I'm very seriously considering retiring to suburban Tokyo in my 50s, if I live that long....the safe streets being one of the main lures....

    You can’t, Sport. They don’t take refugees from inferior populations.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Neoconned
    It is possible for Americans to attain Japanese citizenship homeboy
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  114. @Flip
    If I had to pick a non-white ethnicity to be, it would be Japanese.

    Well isn’t that magnanimous of you.

    I had a Japanese guy tell me the other day that if he had to be a hairy, foul-smelling, big-nosed, stupid, rude, drunk, Gaijin, European is UNQUESTIONABLY the path he’d choose.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  115. @Peter Akuleyev
    Their military wasn’t set up for that.

    Based on what? The Soviets certainly did not want to challenge the Americans, but ferrying over experienced Soviet troops to roll over the remnants of the Japanese Imperial Army in 1945 would have been easy pickings. Especially since Soviet air superiority over Hokkaido would have been immense by that point.

    The Japanese were very afraid of the Soviets. The Soviets beat the Japanese decisively in 1939 at Khalkin Gol, which is one reason the Japanese decided they were better off attacking the Americans than joining Hitler against the USSR. The Japanese Navy was good, but the land Army was not particularly good, and spoiled by years of occupying China.

    Whole divisions surrendered without a shot being fired when “confronted” with platoons from the Soviet army vanguard. Amazing. No ‘spirit of Bushido’ when the Japanese met the mongol horde.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  116. @Chrisnonymous
    No, he's correct. I live in Japan, and these honor-system alcohol vending machines exist. I've used them. There is one around the corner from my apartment.
    (BTW, the article you posted doesn't say they don't exist, it says they're changing.)

    And they are in fact a good example of why foreigners, like me, shouldn't be allowed to move here.

    (BTW, the article you posted doesn’t say they don’t exist, it says they’re changing.)

    Is there a logical inference that can be drawn from this? I mean, I never truly wanted to belive the “Japs are smarter than whites” meme, but, uh…

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  117. @Ali Choudhury
    Thanks for the response Bartok. Other countries like France and Singapore have tried baby cash incentive schemes and wound them down as a) they are really expensive and b) they only tend to encourage the most economically marginal to have children which makes welfare costs go up dramatically. Right now Japan has the worst of both worlds, women who aren't socially allowed to work after marriage and women who refuse to have children because of the economic costs involved.

    It is the working culture that needs serious attention. The young are exploited by large corporations to work irregular, temp jobs and work an insane number of hours. That economic insecurity is a key reason they don't have babies.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/07/japan-mystery-low-birth-rate/534291/

    This isn't a case of a wise people voluntarily making their population smaller, it is down to a vicious cycle of exploitation.

    Similar in Taiwan. Low salaries, hard work culture, few good jobs. Real estate prohibitively expensive for young couples.

    Same problems in South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong?…

    For whatever reason, the smartest countries are also the ones with the lowest birth rates.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/268083/countries-with-the-lowest-fertility-rates/

    And China has the same birth rate problem. Its mega cities have crazy low birth rates, but remain somewhat healthy due to… massive immigration. From inside China, of course.

    https://www.economist.com/news/china/21729573-no-province-has-many-babies-some-shortfalls-are-much-worse-others-chinas-demographic

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  118. @Chrisnonymous
    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was "turned in" to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who "turned it in" didn't want any reward.

    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was “turned in” to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who “turned it in” didn’t want any reward.

    I surveyed my Korean adult students more than once on ‘what would Koreans do with a found wallet’. Almost unanimously – ‘Return it via mail or police, minus the cash’. They thought it was obvious they were entitled to the cash, and not the rest.

    I left a handful of cash on a park bench on the (deserted) oceanfront in central Fukuoka. I got a block or two away before realizing and turning back. Initially, I hurried a bit, but then I thought – ‘calm down – this is Japan. Everybody knows it will still be there in a month.’ So I slowed down.

    It was gone. Maybe I should have checked the local police station.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    If true, this is a sad decline in ethics in both countries. When I was a kid, both Japan and South Korea had a heartwarming ritual in which a child who finds money on the street for the first time would walk to the police station hand-in-hand with mom or dad and turn in the find. The police officer would then dutifully record the name and address of the child and, if no one claimed the money in due time, would give him the money in question.

    I still remember my first time at the police station all these decades later. The police officer who interviewed me and filled out the report smiled warmly and told me that I was a very dutiful young citizen.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    You missed the important point where my wallet was "recovered" out of my bicycle basket. Yes, I forgot it, but it wasn't lying on the sidewalk.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  119. Is Japan contributing proportionately to the upkeep of refugees in camps in the Near East? If so, that suffices. Refugees are properly housed in camps proximate to the source of trouble with a view to their eventual repatriation. Resettlement in distant loci is appropriate only where there is an intractable problem at home. The problems in the Near East are acute, not chronic. The U.S. since 1920 has only had two refugee generators proximate to its borders: Cuba and Haiti, and Haiti’s political distress is no longer such as to justify mass refugee flows. Japan’s in the same situation: North Korea is the only place nearby where outmigrants are ipso facto refugees, and there aren’t many outmigrants. If that isn’t the case, refugee admissions should be strictly retail – politicians and newspaper editors and trade unionists in serious danger (as well as their legitimate dependents). It’s doubtful many of the 80,000 refugees the U.S. admits in a typical year really fill the bill.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  120. I wonder, will the Eye of Sauron, the globo-homo new world order, ever set his gaze upon Japan?
    In simpler words, will the Japanese be able to escape from diversity enrichment for long? Why does the US State Department still let them get away with it?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  121. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was "turned in" to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who "turned it in" didn't want any reward.

    I left my wallet on top of a public phone next to a police box, where a finder would normally turn it in. In this case the finder called me up and wanted to meet. He returned the wallet, but I had to listen to a pitch trying to recruit me into a multilevel marketing scam that he was involved in. He saw me as his entre into the lucrative gaijin market, apparently.

    Read More
    • LOL: Chrisnonymous
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  122. @Ali Choudhury
    Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don't want skilled workers to bring their families over. That is going to put off even the mass-produced H1b drones. Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married. I can't think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something, having the entire country enter old age will make it much poorer over an extended period of time.

    Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don’t want skilled workers to bring their families over.

    What is unlikely to work? Their outrageously harsh terms of immigration will fail to discourage immigrants and lower immigration levels? Their PR spin will fail to keep international pressure at bay? Maybe both of those will work exactly as planned.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  123. @üeljang
    "Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy."

    Pray tell, which agency is invested with the authority to issue such moral licenses?

    The truth is that Japanese people (well, the Japanese people who matter in such regards, i.e. those at the top) don't give a shit what you or any other non-Japanese person might say or think about them. They certainly would not be swayed by complaints that their assessment of credibility in claims for refugee protection is too strict. What are you suggesting? That they ought to be more lax in their judgment and allow fake "refugees" to infiltrate their country? You must be either a perfect imbecile or a poorly disguised hostile agent.

    You underestimate how cynical and mean-spirited the Japanese are.

    “Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.”

    Pray tell, which agency is invested with the authority to issue such moral licenses?

    Who pushed the immigration and multicultural initiatives on the US and Europe? It wasn’t one agency, it was a modest number of powerful western elites who were passionate about their agenda and got broader cultural buy in.

    The truth is that Japanese people (well, the Japanese people who matter in such regards, i.e. those at the top) don’t give a shit what you or any other non-Japanese person might say or think about them.

    That may be true. But the simple fact is that Japan has not faced the aggressive relentless pressure and cultural warfare that have targeted the US and Europe.

    I suspect, the broad left needs to keep their message simple, they have built narratives and this aggressive repeated rhetoric promoting ethnic white villains and racism. I don’t think it’s in their interest to confuse this messaging with non-white villains.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Having a language isolate and a difficult, exotic script helps too. You can care less about what other people think when there's a greater barrier to communication.
    , @tsawyer1
    this assertion, that japan has not faced the "aggressive relentless pressure and cultural warfare" that is daily in the west is absoultly not true.
    What crack are you smoking?
    during the us occupation, Japan was in fact told that they have no moral license or authority at all!
    the "western" issues of gay rights, multiculturalism, immigration, diversity, and "rape culture" has permiated Japan. The most leftist newspapers in Japan are entirely for these things. And a quick look through the "Japan Times" will show that the west has infiltrated & grappled Japanese thinking better than the best ninja.

    This so called "moral license" is vacuuous.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  124. @Anonymous
    I'm a resident of Japan ... technically, I'm an immigrant to Japan, with an immigrant visa, having lived half my life here.

    Yesterday in front of my train station there was a group of nice Japanese collecting money for or otherwise promoting an outfit called the OHCHR. There were posters of migrants in boats or along roads, with captions like "They just want to get to Europe." There were no blacks in the photos, and many children. I wish I had stopped to chat with the folks to figure out what they were doing, but I kind of felt that my true feelings would come through and poison the mood. There are several far-left political parties in Japan, so I assume this had something to do with that.

    In the mainstream media there is zero attention paid to immigrant applicants to Japan or numbers accepted. I don't think anyone cares. On the other hand, the nationality of criminals or criminal suspects is gleefully reported. A New Yorker just dismemembered a Japanese girl he met on the internet the other day, for instance, name of Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar. The news is reporting on the details of how he transported each severed body part to each disposal location, with detailed map graphics. Unfortunately, he left the head for last, and the police were on to him by then and found it in his apartment.

    Japanese are really nice, and in theory you could jujitsu this to convince them to admit poor, suffering migrants, but the media would overreport the slightest malfeasance and put a stop to it.

    So the Japanese far left raise money for migrants to get to Europe?

    I suppose I admire them for not taking a dump on their own doorstep. But as a European, could you ask them next time not to pay for people to come and take a dump on mine?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  125. @wren
    A close Japanese friend recently got their results back from 23andme.

    Mostly Japanese, of course. But..

    You most likely had a fourth-great-grandparent, fifth-great-grandparent, sixth-great-grandparent, or seventh-great (or greater) grandparent who was 100% Native American. This person was likely born between 1700 and 1790.
     
    Any ideas are appreciated.

    My guess is that the Dutch East India Company chartered American ships in the late 1700's and early 1800's apparently and one of these had an Indian amongst the crew who jumped off in Japan and pretended to be Ainu or something.

    Or is there the possibility that 23andme screwed something up, or something? They said that there was no haplogroup connected to this ancestor.

    It's a curious result.

    I would guess that it is reflecting shared Siberian ancestry in north Asians and American Indians.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  126. We Japanese love refugees!*
    (But not in Japan, if you please.)
    We feel much more secure
    Being racially pure.
    *(But they smell. And can’t eat on their knees.)

    Read More
    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    This one’s pretty good, Tilley.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  127. Refugee resettlement programmes to the West as organised by the West: They cost 20 times as much to help each refugee as resettling them in a country next door and those refugees are taken into lands full of disgusting, racist white people.

    This means that Japanese people probably help refugees far more than Western peoples do. The clever Japanese just use the right method. Stupid Westerners…

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  128. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    We Japanese love refugees!*
    (But not in Japan, if you please.)
    We feel much more secure
    Being racially pure.
    *(But they smell. And can't eat on their knees.)

    This one’s pretty good, Tilley.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  129. @Vinteuil
    "...immigrant-dominated crime gangs are taking advantage to create a 'parallel mafia society.'"

    I can well believe it.

    I spent some time in the Netherlands & Belgium, about this time last year, starting off at a Hostel in Amsterdam...

    I awoke one morning in the midst of a nasty quarrel between a couple of guys speaking in English with heavy accents that I couldn't identify, pretty clearly concerning some drug deal gone awry.

    I just snored louder & vacated the next morning.

    Well, I hope at least you wandered up and down the art and antiques street leading to and from the Rijksmuseum.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  130. You mean mass immigration driven by capitalism. And as far as keeping our “superior stock pure”, that notion went out the window when the English were overrun by the non-English in the Thirteen Colonies.

    ~ Some putz in 2018.

    “As far as a ‘Jewish State’ goes, that notion went out the window when Titus & co. crushed the Jewish Revolt and sent the Jews fleeing to the four corners of the Earth, a status quo which has stood for 15 centuries.”

    ~ Some putz in 1941.

    Everybody squawks about Japan’s declining population, but I would like to see some kind of intelligent analysis of Japan’s optimum population size. You can’t just go by square miles of territory within their borders, because a LOT of Japan is mountainous and not particularly habitable; the vast majority of Japan’s population is crammed into the coastal areas, making for high population density. I’m sure the Japanese like a higher population density than I do, but there are limits, even for NE Asians, and maybe Japan has passed them.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  131. @Peter Akuleyev

    The Russians never managed to beat the Japanese either. It took the A-Bomb to do it.
     
    The Russians rolłed up the Japanese in Manchuria in 1945, and were about to take Hokkaido. The Japanese elite welcomed the A Bomb. It gave them a way to capitulate without losing face, and before the Soviets could occupy territory. Without the Bomb, Japan could have been divided like Korea and. Germany.

    Why are Russian propagandists so tedious and irksome? There is zero evidence that the Japanese surrendered because they were afraid of Soviets. Only a people as defective as Russians would consider it a proud accomplishment to steal some cold rocky islands from a country that just got nuclear bombs dropped on it. Japan and Russia fought a one-on-one war once, and Russia got embarrassed.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The Soviets beat the Japanese in 1939 and in 1945. But invading and conquering the Japanese home islands against active Japanese resistance would have been a much tougher proposition for the Soviets than sparring on the Asian mainland.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  132. @Rosh
    Why are Russian propagandists so tedious and irksome? There is zero evidence that the Japanese surrendered because they were afraid of Soviets. Only a people as defective as Russians would consider it a proud accomplishment to steal some cold rocky islands from a country that just got nuclear bombs dropped on it. Japan and Russia fought a one-on-one war once, and Russia got embarrassed.

    The Soviets beat the Japanese in 1939 and in 1945. But invading and conquering the Japanese home islands against active Japanese resistance would have been a much tougher proposition for the Soviets than sparring on the Asian mainland.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  133. @Truth
    You can't, Sport. They don't take refugees from inferior populations.

    It is possible for Americans to attain Japanese citizenship homeboy

    Read More
    • Replies: @Truth
    Yeah, I guess they need street-sweepers with the population aging and all.
    , @Twinkie
    Yes, but they prefer Asian or white Americans, not of Truth’s phenotype.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  134. @Ali Choudhury
    Abe and the business elite are pushing hard to bring skilled foreign workers in.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/21/national/abe-calls-foreign-employment-review-increase-skilled-workers/

    Very unlikely to work. Apart from the language issue and abysmal pay for tech workers, they don't want skilled workers to bring their families over. That is going to put off even the mass-produced H1b drones. Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married. I can't think of a single female Japanese CEO or entrepreneur. They need to do something, having the entire country enter old age will make it much poorer over an extended period of time.

    Japan could easily encourage more work and more babies from its existing population if it made working culture more family friendly and made it socially acceptable for women to work and get promoted even after they got married.

    Children are not chopped livers. They need someone to nurture them, and female careers delay first birth and compete for attention.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  135. Feds Provide Almost $2 Billion in Subsidies to Hire Alien Grads Rather than U.S. Grads

    https://cis.org/North/Feds-Provide-Almost-2-Billion-Subsidies-Hire-Alien-Grads-Rather-US-Grads

    Another part of Dubya’s (increasingly bad looking) legacy.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Another part of Dubya’s (increasingly bad looking) legacy.
     
    And by the same token, another reason why the MSM has been rehabilitating that legacy.

    Odd how stories like this never seem to catch their 'notice' though.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  136. @Neoconned
    It is possible for Americans to attain Japanese citizenship homeboy

    Yeah, I guess they need street-sweepers with the population aging and all.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Neoconned
    You're cute, you know. I hope to have my masters degree within ten years.....but keep being cheeky
    , @Neoconned
    You're cute, you know. I hope to have my masters degree within ten years.....but keep being cheeky
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  137. @Truth
    LOL, yo Paddy, you and Jim Bob in comment #1 prove that geniuses congregate together.

    In the sixties I read a lot of books on over population. I remember reading Erlich and Borgstrom. But that is no longer fashionable. That doesn’t mean we solved the problem. At one time it looked like we were going to starve. But then came the “Green Revolution” and folks figured we had solved population problems forever.

    But this year is approximately the time predicted in the movie “Soylent Green”. We should wall off all immigrants – not just the illegal ones. What is the reason for the Fermi Question? Maybe its because advanced civilizations eat beyond their means.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  138. Missed this gem:

    You mean mass immigration driven by capitalism.

    Right; cuz only America and Western Europe have capitalism. Thx 4 ur genieus.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  139. @Massimo Heitor

    “Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.”

    Pray tell, which agency is invested with the authority to issue such moral licenses?
     
    Who pushed the immigration and multicultural initiatives on the US and Europe? It wasn't one agency, it was a modest number of powerful western elites who were passionate about their agenda and got broader cultural buy in.

    The truth is that Japanese people (well, the Japanese people who matter in such regards, i.e. those at the top) don’t give a shit what you or any other non-Japanese person might say or think about them.

     

    That may be true. But the simple fact is that Japan has not faced the aggressive relentless pressure and cultural warfare that have targeted the US and Europe.

    I suspect, the broad left needs to keep their message simple, they have built narratives and this aggressive repeated rhetoric promoting ethnic white villains and racism. I don't think it's in their interest to confuse this messaging with non-white villains.

    Having a language isolate and a difficult, exotic script helps too. You can care less about what other people think when there’s a greater barrier to communication.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  140. @wren
    A close Japanese friend recently got their results back from 23andme.

    Mostly Japanese, of course. But..

    You most likely had a fourth-great-grandparent, fifth-great-grandparent, sixth-great-grandparent, or seventh-great (or greater) grandparent who was 100% Native American. This person was likely born between 1700 and 1790.
     
    Any ideas are appreciated.

    My guess is that the Dutch East India Company chartered American ships in the late 1700's and early 1800's apparently and one of these had an Indian amongst the crew who jumped off in Japan and pretended to be Ainu or something.

    Or is there the possibility that 23andme screwed something up, or something? They said that there was no haplogroup connected to this ancestor.

    It's a curious result.

    Was that from the default 50% confidence data? That’s mostly junk and noise. Adjust it to 90% and see if that ancestry goes away.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  141. @MG
    When you board an ANA flight, the first thing you notice is that all the flight attendants are Japanese. No ‘diversity’ token recruitment there. And the in-flight service is stellar. Same thing at the airports in Tokyo - they look and feel First World, reminiscent of what the USA used to be pre-1990.

    When faced with ANA or United, always take ANA!!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  142. @Jim Don Bob
    Feds Provide Almost $2 Billion in Subsidies to Hire Alien Grads Rather than U.S. Grads

    https://cis.org/North/Feds-Provide-Almost-2-Billion-Subsidies-Hire-Alien-Grads-Rather-US-Grads

    Another part of Dubya's (increasingly bad looking) legacy.

    Another part of Dubya’s (increasingly bad looking) legacy.

    And by the same token, another reason why the MSM has been rehabilitating that legacy.

    Odd how stories like this never seem to catch their ‘notice’ though.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  143. @J1234

    Japan’s population is about 120 million; the USA is 320 million. Japan’s population is 3/8 of the USA’s.
    So if Japan took just 20 refugees on a population of 120 millions, the USA should take 53 refugees (2 2/3 of 20).

    I am fine with that, even if they are all sub 70 IQ Somalis
     
    Yeah, OK...I am, too, but those Somalis will have to live in your neighborhood before they start living in mine.

    I would gladly sign up to support all of them for the rest of their lives iif they were the only refugees admitted this year. It would be a bargain compared to the 1-2 million turd worlders coming here every year that we have to pay for forever and all their relatives forever.

    I’m with Jack D. Pick them up, put them on a plane/bus back to where they came from. Period.

    I am sick to death of hearing about the rights illegals have in my country. What part of illegal is hard to understand?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  144. @mobi

    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was “turned in” to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who “turned it in” didn’t want any reward.
     
    I surveyed my Korean adult students more than once on 'what would Koreans do with a found wallet'. Almost unanimously - 'Return it via mail or police, minus the cash'. They thought it was obvious they were entitled to the cash, and not the rest.

    I left a handful of cash on a park bench on the (deserted) oceanfront in central Fukuoka. I got a block or two away before realizing and turning back. Initially, I hurried a bit, but then I thought - 'calm down - this is Japan. Everybody knows it will still be there in a month.' So I slowed down.

    It was gone. Maybe I should have checked the local police station.

    If true, this is a sad decline in ethics in both countries. When I was a kid, both Japan and South Korea had a heartwarming ritual in which a child who finds money on the street for the first time would walk to the police station hand-in-hand with mom or dad and turn in the find. The police officer would then dutifully record the name and address of the child and, if no one claimed the money in due time, would give him the money in question.

    I still remember my first time at the police station all these decades later. The police officer who interviewed me and filled out the report smiled warmly and told me that I was a very dutiful young citizen.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  145. @Nigerian Nationalist
    If you believe that, then I ought to change my tag to Nigerian Prince and cut you in on this business deal I've got.

    I suppose this tells me what I need to know about Nigerians.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    That we don't believe in fairy tales?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  146. @Truth

    That my friends, is a society.
     
    Yeah...a society with some punk-ass boys.

    Right. Of course YOU prefer more vibrant boys instead. After all, in a world of 80 IQ boys, the one with 90 IQ is king.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  147. @Neoconned
    It is possible for Americans to attain Japanese citizenship homeboy

    Yes, but they prefer Asian or white Americans, not of Truth’s phenotype.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Neoconned
    I am white.

    Anyway what's his ethnic background and more importantly what's his deal? Did I accidentally shit in his Cheerios this morning? I don't recall ever insulting the dude so I don't get why he's being so passive aggressive at me....
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  148. @MG
    When you board an ANA flight, the first thing you notice is that all the flight attendants are Japanese. No ‘diversity’ token recruitment there. And the in-flight service is stellar. Same thing at the airports in Tokyo - they look and feel First World, reminiscent of what the USA used to be pre-1990.

    Singapore Airlines is multi-ethnic and it’s service is even better than that of ANA.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  149. @Truth
    Yeah, I guess they need street-sweepers with the population aging and all.

    You’re cute, you know. I hope to have my masters degree within ten years…..but keep being cheeky

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  150. @Truth
    Yeah, I guess they need street-sweepers with the population aging and all.

    You’re cute, you know. I hope to have my masters degree within ten years…..but keep being cheeky

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  151. @Twinkie
    Yes, but they prefer Asian or white Americans, not of Truth’s phenotype.

    I am white.

    Anyway what’s his ethnic background and more importantly what’s his deal? Did I accidentally shit in his Cheerios this morning? I don’t recall ever insulting the dude so I don’t get why he’s being so passive aggressive at me….

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  152. @Steve Sailer
    The Russians would have ferried some troops to post-war Japan if they were allowed to, but they didn't intend to invade Japan against either Japanese or American opposition. Their military wasn't set up for that.

    That Foreign Policy article includes a link to some original plans to invade Hokkaido, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/122335

    I don’t know the provenance of the document, nor whether it was actually the kind of military contingency plan that militaries always have to have ready should a politician suddenly ask them to do something, but according to the article, the guy who wrote it was disappointed that they didn’t try to take Hokkaido. He later became the “Soviet Minister of the Navy.”

    According to the article, too, Stalin later regretted that he hadn’t taken Hokkaido. He didn’t care about Yalta by 1950.

    Anyway, Stalin never sent the go-ahead.

    Thank goodness.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but there is a big difference between the Soviets thinking of occupying and already-surrendered chunk of Japan post-8/15/45 and the Soviets thinking of doing their own D-Day-style invasion of Japan while the Japanese were still fighting. The Soviets saw what the U.S. went through at Iwo Jima and Okinawa even after years of building up the most formidable amphibious warfare capability ever. They didn't have those kind of capabilities and starting with invading a home island of Japan would not be where they'd want to start.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  153. @wren
    That Foreign Policy article includes a link to some original plans to invade Hokkaido, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/122335

    I don't know the provenance of the document, nor whether it was actually the kind of military contingency plan that militaries always have to have ready should a politician suddenly ask them to do something, but according to the article, the guy who wrote it was disappointed that they didn't try to take Hokkaido. He later became the "Soviet Minister of the Navy."

    According to the article, too, Stalin later regretted that he hadn't taken Hokkaido. He didn't care about Yalta by 1950.

    Anyway, Stalin never sent the go-ahead.

    Thank goodness.

    Okay, but there is a big difference between the Soviets thinking of occupying and already-surrendered chunk of Japan post-8/15/45 and the Soviets thinking of doing their own D-Day-style invasion of Japan while the Japanese were still fighting. The Soviets saw what the U.S. went through at Iwo Jima and Okinawa even after years of building up the most formidable amphibious warfare capability ever. They didn’t have those kind of capabilities and starting with invading a home island of Japan would not be where they’d want to start.

    Read More
    • Replies: @wren
    Yes, I don't think anyone in their right mind really wanted to invade Japan pre Hiroshima.

    It will be interesting to see if Trump does anything with Taiwan.

    They have been hardening the island for 70 years and the combination of China's more blatant aggressiveness in that neighborhood, China's assistance to North Korea, and Trump might lead to somewhere new.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  154. It is interesting how the 雰囲気 changes in the comments threads after a day or two has passed.

    It’s like the sun has long gone down, the raucous laughter of parties has died down and the various night creatures come out or something.

    Still a while til last call though.

    On a different topic, I sometimes wonder how many of Steve’s readers are folks who have spent a considerable amount of time in Asia.

    Read More
    • Replies: @anonymous
    I don't think that quite came across as you intended.

    God loves us all just the way we are but loves us too much to let us stay that way.

    I have spent little time in Asia but the local poets have plagiarized, more than once, my poetry.

    Cor ad cor loquitur, as we used to say back in the day.

    I recommend J. Vernon McGee on the Book of Job, although he is also near his best on Isaiah.

    Props, dude. Represent!

    , @Buck Turgidson
    I read more than I comment here -- but 1.5 years living in Asia (Singapore & Thailand).
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  155. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but there is a big difference between the Soviets thinking of occupying and already-surrendered chunk of Japan post-8/15/45 and the Soviets thinking of doing their own D-Day-style invasion of Japan while the Japanese were still fighting. The Soviets saw what the U.S. went through at Iwo Jima and Okinawa even after years of building up the most formidable amphibious warfare capability ever. They didn't have those kind of capabilities and starting with invading a home island of Japan would not be where they'd want to start.

    Yes, I don’t think anyone in their right mind really wanted to invade Japan pre Hiroshima.

    It will be interesting to see if Trump does anything with Taiwan.

    They have been hardening the island for 70 years and the combination of China’s more blatant aggressiveness in that neighborhood, China’s assistance to North Korea, and Trump might lead to somewhere new.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    It doesn't matter if the shell is hardened, the heart is dead.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  156. Business lobbying has had an effect. 1.3 million foreign workers, or 2 percent of the working population, up 87 percent from 2012. You can also apply for permanent residency after 1 year now, not 10. Of course still seems aimed at temporary workers, rather than population replacement, but…

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  157. @Twinkie
    I suppose this tells me what I need to know about Nigerians.

    That we don’t believe in fairy tales?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    That we don’t believe in fairy tales?
     
    The fact that you think this is a fairy tale tells me much about you and Nigerians.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  158. @Anonymous
    It's as true as the day is long and also no surprise that this truth offends you.

    So a half-truth then. Those who buy just ain’t caught.

    Why would a tall tale offend me? What next will? big foot’s existence…

    Unlike your children–soldiers aside of course– I’m no snowflake.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  159. @wren
    Yes, I don't think anyone in their right mind really wanted to invade Japan pre Hiroshima.

    It will be interesting to see if Trump does anything with Taiwan.

    They have been hardening the island for 70 years and the combination of China's more blatant aggressiveness in that neighborhood, China's assistance to North Korea, and Trump might lead to somewhere new.

    It doesn’t matter if the shell is hardened, the heart is dead.

    Read More
    • Replies: @wren
    Really?

    Taiwan is a wonderful place in my opinion.

    Some sad history, but what else is new?
    , @European-American
    I’d be interested to know what you mean by that.

    Certainly street-level Taiwan does not feel incredibly prepared to face a military invasion. It feels a bit soft and out-of-touch with political realities outside Taiwan. But appearances may be deceiving. And it doesn’t feel “dead” to me (but I have no special insight). There are varieties of the same advanced society softness and decadence as everywhere else, but it still feels alive.

    There are also growing varieties of nationalism and local pride, but of course any kind of Taiwanese nationalism is super complicated and diverse, and I don’t know how much people would be willing to sacrifice to keep their freedom and independence. Maybe a lot...

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  160. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Among the 20 individuals who were recognized as refugees were five Egyptians, five Syrians and two Afghans."

    Even when a country does it right, they do it wrong.

    Well, seeing as Japanese society is like a military academy compared to that of the US, which is a goo goo Montessori school, I expect the refugees to assimilate or die.

    At any rate, they won’t be a problem for long.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  161. @Daniel Chieh
    It doesn't matter if the shell is hardened, the heart is dead.

    Really?

    Taiwan is a wonderful place in my opinion.

    Some sad history, but what else is new?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  162. @wren
    It is interesting how the 雰囲気 changes in the comments threads after a day or two has passed.

    It's like the sun has long gone down, the raucous laughter of parties has died down and the various night creatures come out or something.

    Still a while til last call though.

    On a different topic, I sometimes wonder how many of Steve's readers are folks who have spent a considerable amount of time in Asia.

    I don’t think that quite came across as you intended.

    God loves us all just the way we are but loves us too much to let us stay that way.

    I have spent little time in Asia but the local poets have plagiarized, more than once, my poetry.

    Cor ad cor loquitur, as we used to say back in the day.

    I recommend J. Vernon McGee on the Book of Job, although he is also near his best on Isaiah.

    Props, dude. Represent!

    Read More
    • Replies: @wren
    Actually, I was kind of thinking about various nightspots in Tokyo.

    Things get quieter and yet sometimes more interesting after the last train has departed for the night.

    It used to stay safe too, even in the most foreign friendly of locations, but I have heard that that isn’t the case any more.

    Believe it or not, and I haven’t really looked into it much, the problem is Nigerians.

    Now I don’t know if the problem was Nigerians themselves, or if they were just doing the work of the Yakuza behind the scenes, but I am not making this up.

    Also, it helps to have a name.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  163. @Nigerian Nationalist
    That we don't believe in fairy tales?

    That we don’t believe in fairy tales?

    The fact that you think this is a fairy tale tells me much about you and Nigerians.

    Read More
    • Agree: European-American
    • Replies: @European-American
    Long ago in Switzerland they had newspaper dispensers that worked on the honor system: you took a paper, and you put in a coin. There was no mechanism requiring payment. I looked at those boxes in disbelief: wouldn’t people be tempted to just take a paper without paying?

    Later I went to the US and saw they had newspaper boxes that required payment of a quarter to open. But then you could take as many papers as you wanted! I was similarly surprised that such a system could work.

    Something about a society of abundance combined with basic civic sense of duty made such schemes possible. I’m ashamed that, as a young outsider, they just made me think of how easy it would be to steal or vandalize. But I could also see how precious such a living fairy tale was.

    Even today in Switzerland, there are small stores by the road where you can buy flowers or vegetables. You take what you want and leave the amount of money specified. No one is there to check on you. Not even a webcam, as I recall.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  164. The fact that you believe in fairy-tales and that one person is representative of millions tells me all I need to know about which side of the bell curve you fall.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    The fact that you believe in fairy-tales and that one person is representative of millions tells me all I need to know about which side of the bell curve you fall.
     
    Do some traveling. See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027129/Honest-Japanese-return-78million-cash-earthquake-rubble.html

    You see, I grew up and lived in both Japan and South Korea and have witnessed this kind of good civic sense in those countries and later also in small towns in the U.S. and Western Europe. My parents taught me this kind of sense of duty to my fellow citizens and community. (I still remember the first time I took the money I found on the street to the local police station.) I, in turn, have taught the same to my children.

    This may be beyond your wildest imagination, but there are peoples and cultures in this world who are so very utterly different from, say, Nigerians.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  165. @Twinkie

    That we don’t believe in fairy tales?
     
    The fact that you think this is a fairy tale tells me much about you and Nigerians.

    Long ago in Switzerland they had newspaper dispensers that worked on the honor system: you took a paper, and you put in a coin. There was no mechanism requiring payment. I looked at those boxes in disbelief: wouldn’t people be tempted to just take a paper without paying?

    Later I went to the US and saw they had newspaper boxes that required payment of a quarter to open. But then you could take as many papers as you wanted! I was similarly surprised that such a system could work.

    Something about a society of abundance combined with basic civic sense of duty made such schemes possible. I’m ashamed that, as a young outsider, they just made me think of how easy it would be to steal or vandalize. But I could also see how precious such a living fairy tale was.

    Even today in Switzerland, there are small stores by the road where you can buy flowers or vegetables. You take what you want and leave the amount of money specified. No one is there to check on you. Not even a webcam, as I recall.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    I remember that. They didn't have webcams when I saw it because the technology hadn't been invented yet; the honor system was just strong enough that if anyone stole, it would assumed that he probably needed it badly and would pay for it later somehow.

    It was really marvelous.
    , @wren
    I still buy flowers and vegetables by the side of the road on a regular basis.

    It is all on the honor system, and seems to work.

    Up until a few years ago, my family did it on a nearly daily basis.

    It saved a lot of money and was fresher.

    Perhaps my children will one day look back on this honor system with a sense of wonder.

    But I hope not.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  166. @Daniel Chieh
    It doesn't matter if the shell is hardened, the heart is dead.

    I’d be interested to know what you mean by that.

    Certainly street-level Taiwan does not feel incredibly prepared to face a military invasion. It feels a bit soft and out-of-touch with political realities outside Taiwan. But appearances may be deceiving. And it doesn’t feel “dead” to me (but I have no special insight). There are varieties of the same advanced society softness and decadence as everywhere else, but it still feels alive.

    There are also growing varieties of nationalism and local pride, but of course any kind of Taiwanese nationalism is super complicated and diverse, and I don’t know how much people would be willing to sacrifice to keep their freedom and independence. Maybe a lot…

    Read More
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Its partly that, but the deeper issue is that the Taiwanese have become split among factional conflicts and gotten heavily brain drained at this point; even more demoralizing than military humiliation might be economic humiliation: much of the higher educated Taiwanese just leave the province to get a job in China, and disappointment in the "end of history" female president Tsai Ing-wen is so high now that 1)Emperor Xi is more popular in Taiwan than President Tsai, and 2)almost 15% of Taiwanese want to become part of China now(up 5% in a single year).

    This doesn't seem like a country that's about to put up a fight.

    I suppose I'm unfairly biased to the technical side, but that's where a lot of the deadness comes from. Its almost impossible to do anything cutting-edge in Taiwan, if you're into drones or artificial intelligence, then your options really are either China or the US.

    I think that parts of the Europe have similar brain drain issues, though, no? Finland. But fortunately, its mostly internal from what I hear and if I was going to speculate, becomes something like "Germany gets everyone."
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  167. @Steve Sailer
    That was agreed to at Yalta.

    , which was a secret agreement, not a treaty.
    E.g. “Hey Steve. My brother & and I secretly agreed that we now own your house. Now get out.”

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  168. @Massimo Heitor

    “Since WW2, Japan hasn’t been allowed to have a military, but they have been given moral license to have a highly restrictive immigration policy.”

    Pray tell, which agency is invested with the authority to issue such moral licenses?
     
    Who pushed the immigration and multicultural initiatives on the US and Europe? It wasn't one agency, it was a modest number of powerful western elites who were passionate about their agenda and got broader cultural buy in.

    The truth is that Japanese people (well, the Japanese people who matter in such regards, i.e. those at the top) don’t give a shit what you or any other non-Japanese person might say or think about them.

     

    That may be true. But the simple fact is that Japan has not faced the aggressive relentless pressure and cultural warfare that have targeted the US and Europe.

    I suspect, the broad left needs to keep their message simple, they have built narratives and this aggressive repeated rhetoric promoting ethnic white villains and racism. I don't think it's in their interest to confuse this messaging with non-white villains.

    this assertion, that japan has not faced the “aggressive relentless pressure and cultural warfare” that is daily in the west is absoultly not true.
    What crack are you smoking?
    during the us occupation, Japan was in fact told that they have no moral license or authority at all!
    the “western” issues of gay rights, multiculturalism, immigration, diversity, and “rape culture” has permiated Japan. The most leftist newspapers in Japan are entirely for these things. And a quick look through the “Japan Times” will show that the west has infiltrated & grappled Japanese thinking better than the best ninja.

    This so called “moral license” is vacuuous.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  169. @Nigerian Nationalist
    The fact that you believe in fairy-tales and that one person is representative of millions tells me all I need to know about which side of the bell curve you fall.

    The fact that you believe in fairy-tales and that one person is representative of millions tells me all I need to know about which side of the bell curve you fall.

    Do some traveling. See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027129/Honest-Japanese-return-78million-cash-earthquake-rubble.html

    You see, I grew up and lived in both Japan and South Korea and have witnessed this kind of good civic sense in those countries and later also in small towns in the U.S. and Western Europe. My parents taught me this kind of sense of duty to my fellow citizens and community. (I still remember the first time I took the money I found on the street to the local police station.) I, in turn, have taught the same to my children.

    This may be beyond your wildest imagination, but there are peoples and cultures in this world who are so very utterly different from, say, Nigerians.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    A lack of imagination?

    You're projecting Twinkie: http://www.nigerianwatch.com/nigerian-uber-driver-in-u-s-returns-lost-700-to-its-owner/

    http://www.nigerianmonitor.com/photo-lagos-airport-cleaner-returns-n12-million-found-in-toilet-to-owner/

    https://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,122687.0.html

    That said the idea that Japanese kids "just don't" buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.

    P.S That "good sort of civic sense" is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you'll find it there.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  170. @Twinkie

    The fact that you believe in fairy-tales and that one person is representative of millions tells me all I need to know about which side of the bell curve you fall.
     
    Do some traveling. See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027129/Honest-Japanese-return-78million-cash-earthquake-rubble.html

    You see, I grew up and lived in both Japan and South Korea and have witnessed this kind of good civic sense in those countries and later also in small towns in the U.S. and Western Europe. My parents taught me this kind of sense of duty to my fellow citizens and community. (I still remember the first time I took the money I found on the street to the local police station.) I, in turn, have taught the same to my children.

    This may be beyond your wildest imagination, but there are peoples and cultures in this world who are so very utterly different from, say, Nigerians.

    A lack of imagination?

    You’re projecting Twinkie: http://www.nigerianwatch.com/nigerian-uber-driver-in-u-s-returns-lost-700-to-its-owner/

    http://www.nigerianmonitor.com/photo-lagos-airport-cleaner-returns-n12-million-found-in-toilet-to-owner/

    https://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,122687.0.html

    That said the idea that Japanese kids “just don’t” buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    That said the idea that Japanese kids “just don’t” buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.
     
    East Asian kids are orders of magnitude less prone to impulsive and dysfunctional behaviors than sub-Saharan Africans. You just have no clue.

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.
     
    No thanks. I saw enough of Africa in my last tour. And that particular tour strengthened my “prejudice” about Africans. Reality does that.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.
     
    Don’t be stupider than you already are. I worked counterterrorism on three continents.

    By the way, it might make the news when an individual Ethiopian returns money found in public, but it doesn’t in Japan, because it’s normal, not extraordinary. You just have no idea in your ignorant mind just how different Japan is from Nigeria, e.g. there are more than 30 times as many homicides in the latter as compared to the former, per capita. That alone should give you an inkling, were you even the least bit rational.
    , @Daniel Chieh

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.
     
    I made it as far as Cameroon. While I met some wonderful Africans, it did not improve my overall opinion of Africans as a whole. The words "unimaginable corruption" come to mind.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  171. @Nigerian Nationalist
    A lack of imagination?

    You're projecting Twinkie: http://www.nigerianwatch.com/nigerian-uber-driver-in-u-s-returns-lost-700-to-its-owner/

    http://www.nigerianmonitor.com/photo-lagos-airport-cleaner-returns-n12-million-found-in-toilet-to-owner/

    https://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,122687.0.html

    That said the idea that Japanese kids "just don't" buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.

    P.S That "good sort of civic sense" is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you'll find it there.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.

    That said the idea that Japanese kids “just don’t” buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.

    East Asian kids are orders of magnitude less prone to impulsive and dysfunctional behaviors than sub-Saharan Africans. You just have no clue.

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.

    No thanks. I saw enough of Africa in my last tour. And that particular tour strengthened my “prejudice” about Africans. Reality does that.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.

    Don’t be stupider than you already are. I worked counterterrorism on three continents.

    By the way, it might make the news when an individual Ethiopian returns money found in public, but it doesn’t in Japan, because it’s normal, not extraordinary. You just have no idea in your ignorant mind just how different Japan is from Nigeria, e.g. there are more than 30 times as many homicides in the latter as compared to the former, per capita. That alone should give you an inkling, were you even the least bit rational.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    No thanks. I saw enough of Africa in my last tour.
     
    If you don't mind my asking - was this East or West? Arab or black?
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    Ahh, the old "I was a veteran" gag, which you know me enough to know I'll just believe, right?

    Now back to the original argument--which you've moved off differing tangents many times already-- Japanese kids are drinking alcohol. FFS it's the sort of adventurous living that comes with the first bout of teenage hormones.

    P.S No it "didn't make the news", those are obscure blogs, they were a direct response to the article you yourself linked. As for murder rate, America's weirdness aside, that clearly correlates with income levels, however, a weak State does not, bad people its citizens make. Bad Yoga reference, don't be anal.

    Unless of course, you believe slave driving Qataris are much better than the African villager you so disdain?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  172. @European-American
    I’d be interested to know what you mean by that.

    Certainly street-level Taiwan does not feel incredibly prepared to face a military invasion. It feels a bit soft and out-of-touch with political realities outside Taiwan. But appearances may be deceiving. And it doesn’t feel “dead” to me (but I have no special insight). There are varieties of the same advanced society softness and decadence as everywhere else, but it still feels alive.

    There are also growing varieties of nationalism and local pride, but of course any kind of Taiwanese nationalism is super complicated and diverse, and I don’t know how much people would be willing to sacrifice to keep their freedom and independence. Maybe a lot...

    Its partly that, but the deeper issue is that the Taiwanese have become split among factional conflicts and gotten heavily brain drained at this point; even more demoralizing than military humiliation might be economic humiliation: much of the higher educated Taiwanese just leave the province to get a job in China, and disappointment in the “end of history” female president Tsai Ing-wen is so high now that 1)Emperor Xi is more popular in Taiwan than President Tsai, and 2)almost 15% of Taiwanese want to become part of China now(up 5% in a single year).

    This doesn’t seem like a country that’s about to put up a fight.

    I suppose I’m unfairly biased to the technical side, but that’s where a lot of the deadness comes from. Its almost impossible to do anything cutting-edge in Taiwan, if you’re into drones or artificial intelligence, then your options really are either China or the US.

    I think that parts of the Europe have similar brain drain issues, though, no? Finland. But fortunately, its mostly internal from what I hear and if I was going to speculate, becomes something like “Germany gets everyone.”

    Read More
    • Agree: European-American
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Adding this:

    The reason why Taiwan could be independent, too, was that the vast majority of its soldiers were KMT waisenren like my family: part of the massive flow of defeated soldiers that then held the line against the Communists by fighting on numerous small islands. Some units took 80% casualties. These were hardened anti-Communist soldiers who were willing to do anything to maintain a hope of defeating the communists. Along the way, they also rebuilt Taiwan into a tiny, but meaningful industrial and economic power.

    Since then, though, the native islanders who were on Taiwan before have executed a liberal march through institutions, blamed the KMT for everything, constantly deride and demonize the waisenren . Its like if white New Zelanders fought and died en masse to defend Maori, and then many years later, you only hear about how terrible the whites are and ignore the fact that the very remaining existence of the Maori and country is because of these whites.

    Of course, the waisenren continue to make up the vast majority of the military because while the natives are very demanding and mouthy, they apparently don't really give a shit about the entire "dying" part. This is pretty demoralizing, as you might imagine. So the result now is that the Taiwanese government is always begging for help from the United States or Japan, because if you don't even have a core military you can depend on, then must ask for the mercy of your superiors. Again, demoralizing.
    , @European-American
    Thanks for your reply. I understand where you are coming from. Here's my answer, but really I don't know what I'm talking about, so feel free to ignore:

    I doubt Europe has similar tech problems to Taiwan. Taiwan's situation is so peculiar, many of its problems are really one of a kind. It feels like it doesn't have much margin for maneuver at all. Such a small, but rich, country, with so many big problems... This crazy situation reminds me a bit of Israel's, but Taiwan has, by construction, less sense of identity and purpose, less freedom to act, and less political influence.

    European countries certainly do have plenty of reasons to worry about being left behind technologically by the US and China. (And they have a whole different set of problems with low-quality immigration, which Taiwan doesn't seem to have, despite Vietnamese and Filipino and Indonesian etc. (short-term?) immigrants) But European countries are not constantly in Taiwan's risky situation where its very existence as a sovereign nation is directly threatened.

    With regard to the tech industry, Europe and Taiwan may have one thing going for them: Europe's cultural closeness with the US and Silicon Valley is a little bit like Taiwan's cultural closeness to China. I know many in Taiwan prefer to avoid looking towards China, but there must be some benefits to the close business and cultural connections they have with China. A lot of Europeans seem pretty clueless about China.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  173. @Nigerian Nationalist
    A lack of imagination?

    You're projecting Twinkie: http://www.nigerianwatch.com/nigerian-uber-driver-in-u-s-returns-lost-700-to-its-owner/

    http://www.nigerianmonitor.com/photo-lagos-airport-cleaner-returns-n12-million-found-in-toilet-to-owner/

    https://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,122687.0.html

    That said the idea that Japanese kids "just don't" buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.

    P.S That "good sort of civic sense" is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you'll find it there.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.

    I made it as far as Cameroon. While I met some wonderful Africans, it did not improve my overall opinion of Africans as a whole. The words “unimaginable corruption” come to mind.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cool, you should visit more of the people. The idea of judging them for the failings of a tiny sliver of its populace makes no sense.

    90%, if not more of Africans won't even get the chance to be corrupt. Who then are the real Africans, 90 or 10?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  174. @Daniel Chieh
    Its partly that, but the deeper issue is that the Taiwanese have become split among factional conflicts and gotten heavily brain drained at this point; even more demoralizing than military humiliation might be economic humiliation: much of the higher educated Taiwanese just leave the province to get a job in China, and disappointment in the "end of history" female president Tsai Ing-wen is so high now that 1)Emperor Xi is more popular in Taiwan than President Tsai, and 2)almost 15% of Taiwanese want to become part of China now(up 5% in a single year).

    This doesn't seem like a country that's about to put up a fight.

    I suppose I'm unfairly biased to the technical side, but that's where a lot of the deadness comes from. Its almost impossible to do anything cutting-edge in Taiwan, if you're into drones or artificial intelligence, then your options really are either China or the US.

    I think that parts of the Europe have similar brain drain issues, though, no? Finland. But fortunately, its mostly internal from what I hear and if I was going to speculate, becomes something like "Germany gets everyone."

    Adding this:

    The reason why Taiwan could be independent, too, was that the vast majority of its soldiers were KMT waisenren like my family: part of the massive flow of defeated soldiers that then held the line against the Communists by fighting on numerous small islands. Some units took 80% casualties. These were hardened anti-Communist soldiers who were willing to do anything to maintain a hope of defeating the communists. Along the way, they also rebuilt Taiwan into a tiny, but meaningful industrial and economic power.

    Since then, though, the native islanders who were on Taiwan before have executed a liberal march through institutions, blamed the KMT for everything, constantly deride and demonize the waisenren . Its like if white New Zelanders fought and died en masse to defend Maori, and then many years later, you only hear about how terrible the whites are and ignore the fact that the very remaining existence of the Maori and country is because of these whites.

    Of course, the waisenren continue to make up the vast majority of the military because while the natives are very demanding and mouthy, they apparently don’t really give a shit about the entire “dying” part. This is pretty demoralizing, as you might imagine. So the result now is that the Taiwanese government is always begging for help from the United States or Japan, because if you don’t even have a core military you can depend on, then must ask for the mercy of your superiors. Again, demoralizing.

    Read More
    • Replies: @wren
    Daniel, I am sad to hear about Taiwan.

    I visited many times from the mid 80's to very early 90's and really liked the country and the people.

    I studied Chinese for a few years in college, so getting around and communicating weren't issues.

    Your comments made sense, but I hope the country can get back on track.
    , @Twinkie
    Points taken about the whiney natives in Taiwan, but the KMT was pretty repressive and bloodthirsty in the early years of its rule on Taiwan. Also, it's not the natives who are doing business in PRC, which poses a mortal threat to the current way of life on Taiwan.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  175. @European-American
    Long ago in Switzerland they had newspaper dispensers that worked on the honor system: you took a paper, and you put in a coin. There was no mechanism requiring payment. I looked at those boxes in disbelief: wouldn’t people be tempted to just take a paper without paying?

    Later I went to the US and saw they had newspaper boxes that required payment of a quarter to open. But then you could take as many papers as you wanted! I was similarly surprised that such a system could work.

    Something about a society of abundance combined with basic civic sense of duty made such schemes possible. I’m ashamed that, as a young outsider, they just made me think of how easy it would be to steal or vandalize. But I could also see how precious such a living fairy tale was.

    Even today in Switzerland, there are small stores by the road where you can buy flowers or vegetables. You take what you want and leave the amount of money specified. No one is there to check on you. Not even a webcam, as I recall.

    I remember that. They didn’t have webcams when I saw it because the technology hadn’t been invented yet; the honor system was just strong enough that if anyone stole, it would assumed that he probably needed it badly and would pay for it later somehow.

    It was really marvelous.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    I live in a county of millions of people, but the honor system is alive and well at farmers’ markets.

    The closest one to me is held at my parish church parking lot. Sometimes the sellers go to the bathroom and leave their stands unattended. Buyers just leave the money and take the items. My local area, though, is 80% white, 15% Asian, with blacks at under 1% and Hispanics at 2%.

    The buyers at that farmers’ market is overwhelmingly white and East Asian.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  176. @Twinkie

    That said the idea that Japanese kids “just don’t” buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.
     
    East Asian kids are orders of magnitude less prone to impulsive and dysfunctional behaviors than sub-Saharan Africans. You just have no clue.

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.
     
    No thanks. I saw enough of Africa in my last tour. And that particular tour strengthened my “prejudice” about Africans. Reality does that.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.
     
    Don’t be stupider than you already are. I worked counterterrorism on three continents.

    By the way, it might make the news when an individual Ethiopian returns money found in public, but it doesn’t in Japan, because it’s normal, not extraordinary. You just have no idea in your ignorant mind just how different Japan is from Nigeria, e.g. there are more than 30 times as many homicides in the latter as compared to the former, per capita. That alone should give you an inkling, were you even the least bit rational.

    No thanks. I saw enough of Africa in my last tour.

    If you don’t mind my asking – was this East or West? Arab or black?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    East. Both.

    I’ve also trained West Africans.

    I actually have a high regard for Chadian desert forces. And I mentioned several times around these parts that German African Schuetztruppe performed excellently in WW I even against colonial European troops when well-led and -trained.

    Unlike some here, I don’t have a blind hatred of blacks. I’ve met black heroes and I mean well for my fellow Americans who are black. But, average population differences are what they are and have social implications.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  177. @Johann Ricke

    No thanks. I saw enough of Africa in my last tour.
     
    If you don't mind my asking - was this East or West? Arab or black?

    East. Both.

    I’ve also trained West Africans.

    I actually have a high regard for Chadian desert forces. And I mentioned several times around these parts that German African Schuetztruppe performed excellently in WW I even against colonial European troops when well-led and -trained.

    Unlike some here, I don’t have a blind hatred of blacks. I’ve met black heroes and I mean well for my fellow Americans who are black. But, average population differences are what they are and have social implications.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  178. @Daniel Chieh
    I remember that. They didn't have webcams when I saw it because the technology hadn't been invented yet; the honor system was just strong enough that if anyone stole, it would assumed that he probably needed it badly and would pay for it later somehow.

    It was really marvelous.

    I live in a county of millions of people, but the honor system is alive and well at farmers’ markets.

    The closest one to me is held at my parish church parking lot. Sometimes the sellers go to the bathroom and leave their stands unattended. Buyers just leave the money and take the items. My local area, though, is 80% white, 15% Asian, with blacks at under 1% and Hispanics at 2%.

    The buyers at that farmers’ market is overwhelmingly white and East Asian.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    Agree, remember this from Henrietta NY a few years ago. A few miles from downtown Rochester and what a difference!
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  179. @wren
    It is interesting how the 雰囲気 changes in the comments threads after a day or two has passed.

    It's like the sun has long gone down, the raucous laughter of parties has died down and the various night creatures come out or something.

    Still a while til last call though.

    On a different topic, I sometimes wonder how many of Steve's readers are folks who have spent a considerable amount of time in Asia.

    I read more than I comment here — but 1.5 years living in Asia (Singapore & Thailand).

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  180. @Twinkie

    That said the idea that Japanese kids “just don’t” buy beer from off those vending machines is the sort of tall tale meant to be accepted with a pinch of salt.
     
    East Asian kids are orders of magnitude less prone to impulsive and dysfunctional behaviors than sub-Saharan Africans. You just have no clue.

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.
     
    No thanks. I saw enough of Africa in my last tour. And that particular tour strengthened my “prejudice” about Africans. Reality does that.

    Or you can stay hugging your pillow, afraid of the world.
     
    Don’t be stupider than you already are. I worked counterterrorism on three continents.

    By the way, it might make the news when an individual Ethiopian returns money found in public, but it doesn’t in Japan, because it’s normal, not extraordinary. You just have no idea in your ignorant mind just how different Japan is from Nigeria, e.g. there are more than 30 times as many homicides in the latter as compared to the former, per capita. That alone should give you an inkling, were you even the least bit rational.

    Ahh, the old “I was a veteran” gag, which you know me enough to know I’ll just believe, right?

    Now back to the original argument–which you’ve moved off differing tangents many times already– Japanese kids are drinking alcohol. FFS it’s the sort of adventurous living that comes with the first bout of teenage hormones.

    P.S No it “didn’t make the news”, those are obscure blogs, they were a direct response to the article you yourself linked. As for murder rate, America’s weirdness aside, that clearly correlates with income levels, however, a weak State does not, bad people its citizens make. Bad Yoga reference, don’t be anal.

    Unless of course, you believe slave driving Qataris are much better than the African villager you so disdain?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Ahh, the old “I was a veteran” gag, which you know me enough to know I’ll just believe, right?
     
    While, yes, I did military service, that is not what I wrote. Try again.

    The fact that you immediately assume others are lying says a lot about the cultural milieu from which you hail.

    Now back to the original argument–which you’ve moved off differing tangents many times already– Japanese kids are drinking alcohol. FFS it’s the sort of adventurous living that comes with the first bout of teenage hormones.
     
    Look up "proxy" in social science research.

    Then, try this: http://www.nordicwelfare.org/PageFiles/29196/Drinking%20among%20Japanese%20youth%20-%20a%20paradox%20for%20theories%20of%20alcohol%20availability.pdf

    Quick summary: Despite the wide availability of alcohol vending machines in Japan, alcohol consumption by minors is comparatively low. Note: I am not saying no Japanese youngster drinks alcohol, but rather that, due likely to some combination of genetic and cultural reasons, they refrain from doing so even when they can "get away with it." The researcher attributes this to culture or, in his words, "collectivistic Japanese values," by which he seems to mean aversion to breaking rules and social norms even when no one is looking, in this particular context.

    It's obvious to most people on this website that, even controlling for family income, people - including youths - of different races, on average, have different propensities toward rule-breaking, impulsivity, risk-aversion, time-orientation, etc. It's not obvious to you, apparently, because you refuse to see the evidences.

    P.S No it “didn’t make the news”, those are obscure blogs, they were a direct response to the article you yourself linked.
     
    My article was written by foreigners marveling at the OVERALL culture of most Japanese, in other words, just how honest most Japanese are in returning what belongs to others.

    I don't doubt there are honest Nigerians, but this is not about exceptional individuals, but about the larger population-level observations. After all, I am pretty certain that murderers are in the minority in both Japan and Nigeria - it's just that murderous fraction of the population Japan is far more miniscule than in Nigeria.

    As for murder rate, America’s weirdness aside, that clearly correlates with income levels
     
    You can control for income levels and get wide divergences in homicide rates. Latin America and Africa are high, Northern Europe and East Asia are low. You can also see this by race in the United States.

    Unless of course, you believe slave driving Qataris are much better than the African villager you so disdain?
     
    I disdain them both for different reasons.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  181. @Daniel Chieh

    P.S That “good sort of civic sense” is common to all small communities, if you ever abandon your prejudice and make it to a small Nigerian village, like the one I grew up in, you’ll find it there.
     
    I made it as far as Cameroon. While I met some wonderful Africans, it did not improve my overall opinion of Africans as a whole. The words "unimaginable corruption" come to mind.

    Cool, you should visit more of the people. The idea of judging them for the failings of a tiny sliver of its populace makes no sense.

    90%, if not more of Africans won’t even get the chance to be corrupt. Who then are the real Africans, 90 or 10?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    The idea of judging them for the failings of a tiny sliver of its populace makes no sense.

    90%, if not more of Africans won’t even get the chance to be corrupt. Who then are the real Africans, 90 or 10?
     
    Argh. You just don't get it, do you?

    Let me make it very simple.

    In country A, 90% of people are good. 10% are murderers.

    In country B, 99.99% of people are good. 0.01% are murderers.

    In both countries, murderers are a small minority. But I can tell you the social (including criminal) conditions are going to be vastly different.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    That's fine, but it doesn't mean that 100% of people won't be affected by the 10% that are corrupt. And this is low-level corruption well beyond even third world countries; in some places in Pakistan, for example, you can expect to lose 10% of your income for bribes, etc. In Cameroon, it approached 90% and made business unviable. Corruption isn't even the right word for it, its legal robbery often enough and to the level that destroys the host. The honest, logical thing to do is to hide your income from would-be robbers, and essentially, participate in your own form of corruption(tax evasion).

    Its simply ridiculous.

    This is not a functioning society as we understand it, in the modern sense.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  182. @Twinkie
    I live in a county of millions of people, but the honor system is alive and well at farmers’ markets.

    The closest one to me is held at my parish church parking lot. Sometimes the sellers go to the bathroom and leave their stands unattended. Buyers just leave the money and take the items. My local area, though, is 80% white, 15% Asian, with blacks at under 1% and Hispanics at 2%.

    The buyers at that farmers’ market is overwhelmingly white and East Asian.

    Agree, remember this from Henrietta NY a few years ago. A few miles from downtown Rochester and what a difference!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  183. @European-American
    Long ago in Switzerland they had newspaper dispensers that worked on the honor system: you took a paper, and you put in a coin. There was no mechanism requiring payment. I looked at those boxes in disbelief: wouldn’t people be tempted to just take a paper without paying?

    Later I went to the US and saw they had newspaper boxes that required payment of a quarter to open. But then you could take as many papers as you wanted! I was similarly surprised that such a system could work.

    Something about a society of abundance combined with basic civic sense of duty made such schemes possible. I’m ashamed that, as a young outsider, they just made me think of how easy it would be to steal or vandalize. But I could also see how precious such a living fairy tale was.

    Even today in Switzerland, there are small stores by the road where you can buy flowers or vegetables. You take what you want and leave the amount of money specified. No one is there to check on you. Not even a webcam, as I recall.

    I still buy flowers and vegetables by the side of the road on a regular basis.

    It is all on the honor system, and seems to work.

    Up until a few years ago, my family did it on a nearly daily basis.

    It saved a lot of money and was fresher.

    Perhaps my children will one day look back on this honor system with a sense of wonder.

    But I hope not.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  184. @Daniel Chieh
    Adding this:

    The reason why Taiwan could be independent, too, was that the vast majority of its soldiers were KMT waisenren like my family: part of the massive flow of defeated soldiers that then held the line against the Communists by fighting on numerous small islands. Some units took 80% casualties. These were hardened anti-Communist soldiers who were willing to do anything to maintain a hope of defeating the communists. Along the way, they also rebuilt Taiwan into a tiny, but meaningful industrial and economic power.

    Since then, though, the native islanders who were on Taiwan before have executed a liberal march through institutions, blamed the KMT for everything, constantly deride and demonize the waisenren . Its like if white New Zelanders fought and died en masse to defend Maori, and then many years later, you only hear about how terrible the whites are and ignore the fact that the very remaining existence of the Maori and country is because of these whites.

    Of course, the waisenren continue to make up the vast majority of the military because while the natives are very demanding and mouthy, they apparently don't really give a shit about the entire "dying" part. This is pretty demoralizing, as you might imagine. So the result now is that the Taiwanese government is always begging for help from the United States or Japan, because if you don't even have a core military you can depend on, then must ask for the mercy of your superiors. Again, demoralizing.

    Daniel, I am sad to hear about Taiwan.

    I visited many times from the mid 80′s to very early 90′s and really liked the country and the people.

    I studied Chinese for a few years in college, so getting around and communicating weren’t issues.

    Your comments made sense, but I hope the country can get back on track.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  185. @anonymous
    I don't think that quite came across as you intended.

    God loves us all just the way we are but loves us too much to let us stay that way.

    I have spent little time in Asia but the local poets have plagiarized, more than once, my poetry.

    Cor ad cor loquitur, as we used to say back in the day.

    I recommend J. Vernon McGee on the Book of Job, although he is also near his best on Isaiah.

    Props, dude. Represent!

    Actually, I was kind of thinking about various nightspots in Tokyo.

    Things get quieter and yet sometimes more interesting after the last train has departed for the night.

    It used to stay safe too, even in the most foreign friendly of locations, but I have heard that that isn’t the case any more.

    Believe it or not, and I haven’t really looked into it much, the problem is Nigerians.

    Now I don’t know if the problem was Nigerians themselves, or if they were just doing the work of the Yakuza behind the scenes, but I am not making this up.

    Also, it helps to have a name.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  186. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Ahh, the old "I was a veteran" gag, which you know me enough to know I'll just believe, right?

    Now back to the original argument--which you've moved off differing tangents many times already-- Japanese kids are drinking alcohol. FFS it's the sort of adventurous living that comes with the first bout of teenage hormones.

    P.S No it "didn't make the news", those are obscure blogs, they were a direct response to the article you yourself linked. As for murder rate, America's weirdness aside, that clearly correlates with income levels, however, a weak State does not, bad people its citizens make. Bad Yoga reference, don't be anal.

    Unless of course, you believe slave driving Qataris are much better than the African villager you so disdain?

    Ahh, the old “I was a veteran” gag, which you know me enough to know I’ll just believe, right?

    While, yes, I did military service, that is not what I wrote. Try again.

    The fact that you immediately assume others are lying says a lot about the cultural milieu from which you hail.

    Now back to the original argument–which you’ve moved off differing tangents many times already– Japanese kids are drinking alcohol. FFS it’s the sort of adventurous living that comes with the first bout of teenage hormones.

    Look up “proxy” in social science research.

    Then, try this: http://www.nordicwelfare.org/PageFiles/29196/Drinking%20among%20Japanese%20youth%20-%20a%20paradox%20for%20theories%20of%20alcohol%20availability.pdf

    Quick summary: Despite the wide availability of alcohol vending machines in Japan, alcohol consumption by minors is comparatively low. Note: I am not saying no Japanese youngster drinks alcohol, but rather that, due likely to some combination of genetic and cultural reasons, they refrain from doing so even when they can “get away with it.” The researcher attributes this to culture or, in his words, “collectivistic Japanese values,” by which he seems to mean aversion to breaking rules and social norms even when no one is looking, in this particular context.

    It’s obvious to most people on this website that, even controlling for family income, people – including youths – of different races, on average, have different propensities toward rule-breaking, impulsivity, risk-aversion, time-orientation, etc. It’s not obvious to you, apparently, because you refuse to see the evidences.

    P.S No it “didn’t make the news”, those are obscure blogs, they were a direct response to the article you yourself linked.

    My article was written by foreigners marveling at the OVERALL culture of most Japanese, in other words, just how honest most Japanese are in returning what belongs to others.

    I don’t doubt there are honest Nigerians, but this is not about exceptional individuals, but about the larger population-level observations. After all, I am pretty certain that murderers are in the minority in both Japan and Nigeria – it’s just that murderous fraction of the population Japan is far more miniscule than in Nigeria.

    As for murder rate, America’s weirdness aside, that clearly correlates with income levels

    You can control for income levels and get wide divergences in homicide rates. Latin America and Africa are high, Northern Europe and East Asia are low. You can also see this by race in the United States.

    Unless of course, you believe slave driving Qataris are much better than the African villager you so disdain?

    I disdain them both for different reasons.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    Okay, let's start at the top Capitan...

    While, yes, I did military service, that is not what I wrote. Try again.

    The fact that you immediately assume others are lying says a lot about the cultural milieu from which you hail.
     
    You said military, I assumed veteran...easy enough error. Doubting in the absence of evidence? That would put my cultural milieu in line with the enlightenment.

    It’s not obvious to you, apparently, because you refuse to see the evidences.
     
    Neither do you when it contradicts your views. E.g the Japanese have been in the news recently for quite a bit of corporate rule-breaking. In addition, how would you square their actions in their imperialist era?

    I'm more inclined towards attributing the aforementioned attributes to a high degree of State control, which correlates with income. I'm saying that rather than looking across races, you really ought to be looking at income levels. Willing to bet that at equal income levels, crime rates are similar across races.

    A Yakuza and a militant from the N/D for example are likelier to share a familial income level--differing societal scales taken into account of course-- than the kids of Billionaires from both countries. Crime is about peer influence and opportunities afterall. I'm also guessing a higher percentage of Japanese are in school than more hard drinking countries. More homework, less juveniles...


    My article was written by foreigners marveling at the OVERALL culture of most Japanese, in other words, just how honest most Japanese are in returning what belongs to others.
     
    You're a smart guy(gal?), I'm sure you've heard of implicit bias. People go to Japan expecting "OVERALL culture", a function of anime and what is--we can be honest here-- a rather weird fetishization of Japanese culture. But again, I'm willing to bet that the Norwegians aren't petty thieves either. Bringing us back to the income thing.

    You can control for income levels and get wide divergences in homicide rates. Latin America and Africa are high, Northern Europe and East Asia are low.
     
    Nice dodge with the US of A, but you don't just control for among countries, but also for among the individuals within the country. Brazil despite being middle-income has a higher crime rate than say Argentina--despite a roughly similar racial profile-- due its high inequality ergo more poor people.

    I disdain them both for different reasons.
     
    I like how you don't treat people as individuals, really something.

    You know, rather than bothering poor Steve--thanks BTW for your tolerance Mr Sailer-- we could just exchange emails, but then you might show your "cultural milieu" (:
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  187. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cool, you should visit more of the people. The idea of judging them for the failings of a tiny sliver of its populace makes no sense.

    90%, if not more of Africans won't even get the chance to be corrupt. Who then are the real Africans, 90 or 10?

    The idea of judging them for the failings of a tiny sliver of its populace makes no sense.

    90%, if not more of Africans won’t even get the chance to be corrupt. Who then are the real Africans, 90 or 10?

    Argh. You just don’t get it, do you?

    Let me make it very simple.

    In country A, 90% of people are good. 10% are murderers.

    In country B, 99.99% of people are good. 0.01% are murderers.

    In both countries, murderers are a small minority. But I can tell you the social (including criminal) conditions are going to be vastly different.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  188. @Daniel Chieh
    Adding this:

    The reason why Taiwan could be independent, too, was that the vast majority of its soldiers were KMT waisenren like my family: part of the massive flow of defeated soldiers that then held the line against the Communists by fighting on numerous small islands. Some units took 80% casualties. These were hardened anti-Communist soldiers who were willing to do anything to maintain a hope of defeating the communists. Along the way, they also rebuilt Taiwan into a tiny, but meaningful industrial and economic power.

    Since then, though, the native islanders who were on Taiwan before have executed a liberal march through institutions, blamed the KMT for everything, constantly deride and demonize the waisenren . Its like if white New Zelanders fought and died en masse to defend Maori, and then many years later, you only hear about how terrible the whites are and ignore the fact that the very remaining existence of the Maori and country is because of these whites.

    Of course, the waisenren continue to make up the vast majority of the military because while the natives are very demanding and mouthy, they apparently don't really give a shit about the entire "dying" part. This is pretty demoralizing, as you might imagine. So the result now is that the Taiwanese government is always begging for help from the United States or Japan, because if you don't even have a core military you can depend on, then must ask for the mercy of your superiors. Again, demoralizing.

    Points taken about the whiney natives in Taiwan, but the KMT was pretty repressive and bloodthirsty in the early years of its rule on Taiwan. Also, it’s not the natives who are doing business in PRC, which poses a mortal threat to the current way of life on Taiwan.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    What was done was necessary.

    And "current way of life?" Had I known that they would go rah rah for gay rights and same sex marriages now, I would have told my dead family not to bother.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  189. @Twinkie

    Ahh, the old “I was a veteran” gag, which you know me enough to know I’ll just believe, right?
     
    While, yes, I did military service, that is not what I wrote. Try again.

    The fact that you immediately assume others are lying says a lot about the cultural milieu from which you hail.

    Now back to the original argument–which you’ve moved off differing tangents many times already– Japanese kids are drinking alcohol. FFS it’s the sort of adventurous living that comes with the first bout of teenage hormones.
     
    Look up "proxy" in social science research.

    Then, try this: http://www.nordicwelfare.org/PageFiles/29196/Drinking%20among%20Japanese%20youth%20-%20a%20paradox%20for%20theories%20of%20alcohol%20availability.pdf

    Quick summary: Despite the wide availability of alcohol vending machines in Japan, alcohol consumption by minors is comparatively low. Note: I am not saying no Japanese youngster drinks alcohol, but rather that, due likely to some combination of genetic and cultural reasons, they refrain from doing so even when they can "get away with it." The researcher attributes this to culture or, in his words, "collectivistic Japanese values," by which he seems to mean aversion to breaking rules and social norms even when no one is looking, in this particular context.

    It's obvious to most people on this website that, even controlling for family income, people - including youths - of different races, on average, have different propensities toward rule-breaking, impulsivity, risk-aversion, time-orientation, etc. It's not obvious to you, apparently, because you refuse to see the evidences.

    P.S No it “didn’t make the news”, those are obscure blogs, they were a direct response to the article you yourself linked.
     
    My article was written by foreigners marveling at the OVERALL culture of most Japanese, in other words, just how honest most Japanese are in returning what belongs to others.

    I don't doubt there are honest Nigerians, but this is not about exceptional individuals, but about the larger population-level observations. After all, I am pretty certain that murderers are in the minority in both Japan and Nigeria - it's just that murderous fraction of the population Japan is far more miniscule than in Nigeria.

    As for murder rate, America’s weirdness aside, that clearly correlates with income levels
     
    You can control for income levels and get wide divergences in homicide rates. Latin America and Africa are high, Northern Europe and East Asia are low. You can also see this by race in the United States.

    Unless of course, you believe slave driving Qataris are much better than the African villager you so disdain?
     
    I disdain them both for different reasons.

    Okay, let’s start at the top Capitan…

    While, yes, I did military service, that is not what I wrote. Try again.

    The fact that you immediately assume others are lying says a lot about the cultural milieu from which you hail.

    You said military, I assumed veteran…easy enough error. Doubting in the absence of evidence? That would put my cultural milieu in line with the enlightenment.

    It’s not obvious to you, apparently, because you refuse to see the evidences.

    Neither do you when it contradicts your views. E.g the Japanese have been in the news recently for quite a bit of corporate rule-breaking. In addition, how would you square their actions in their imperialist era?

    I’m more inclined towards attributing the aforementioned attributes to a high degree of State control, which correlates with income. I’m saying that rather than looking across races, you really ought to be looking at income levels. Willing to bet that at equal income levels, crime rates are similar across races.

    A Yakuza and a militant from the N/D for example are likelier to share a familial income level–differing societal scales taken into account of course– than the kids of Billionaires from both countries. Crime is about peer influence and opportunities afterall. I’m also guessing a higher percentage of Japanese are in school than more hard drinking countries. More homework, less juveniles…

    My article was written by foreigners marveling at the OVERALL culture of most Japanese, in other words, just how honest most Japanese are in returning what belongs to others.

    You’re a smart guy(gal?), I’m sure you’ve heard of implicit bias. People go to Japan expecting “OVERALL culture”, a function of anime and what is–we can be honest here– a rather weird fetishization of Japanese culture. But again, I’m willing to bet that the Norwegians aren’t petty thieves either. Bringing us back to the income thing.

    You can control for income levels and get wide divergences in homicide rates. Latin America and Africa are high, Northern Europe and East Asia are low.

    Nice dodge with the US of A, but you don’t just control for among countries, but also for among the individuals within the country. Brazil despite being middle-income has a higher crime rate than say Argentina–despite a roughly similar racial profile– due its high inequality ergo more poor people.

    I disdain them both for different reasons.

    I like how you don’t treat people as individuals, really something.

    You know, rather than bothering poor Steve–thanks BTW for your tolerance Mr Sailer– we could just exchange emails, but then you might show your “cultural milieu” (:

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    You said military, I assumed veteran…easy enough error.
     
    Go back and read again. You have a habit reading into your mind what I did not write.

    Doubting in the absence of evidence? That would put my cultural milieu in line with the enlightenment.
     
    Low-trust cultures are not in line with the Enlightenment, because interpersonal and social interactions are not governed by the same "rules of evidence" as, say, science. Otherwise the costs and inefficiencies of social interactions and communication would be enormous and detrimental to cohesion and smooth functioning of society. And that is why countries such as, say, Sweden and Japan are high-trust societies despite prevalence of scientism in the academic sense.

    E.g the Japanese have been in the news recently for quite a bit of corporate rule-breaking.
     
    Yes, there is corruption in Japan, but it is orders of magnitude less prevalent than that in Africa. You are either stupid or intellectually dishonest if you don't understand (or pretend to not understand) the difference between scale/comparisons as opposed to on/off phenomena.

    I’m more inclined towards attributing the aforementioned attributes to a high degree of State control, which correlates with income.
     
    Nope. You are woefully ill-informed. North Korea has a much higher degree of state control than other societies, including South Korea, but it has appalling poverty.

    I’m saying that rather than looking across races, you really ought to be looking at income levels. Willing to bet that at equal income levels, crime rates are similar across races.
     
    You would lose that bet. In the United States, for example, even adjusting for income, blacks commit the most violent crimes per capita, then Hispanics, then whites, and then Asians. Race is a powerful predictor of crime, better than education levels, which in turn is a better predictor of crime than income levels.

    I will give you quick international example. In the aftermath of the Korean War, South Korea was in some rankings the third poorest country in the world after Sudan. However, its crime rate was much lower. The causes are likely genetic + environment.

    I’m also guessing a higher percentage of Japanese are in school than more hard drinking countries. More homework, less juveniles…
     
    Even when most Japanese were illiterate, they had a more orderly society than Africans. What you don't seem to understand is the rare obvious implication that both low criminality and higher studiousness (and later higher income) are correlated, because they are likely caused by the same variables (some function of genes and environment acting upon each other). It's for the same reason that, in the United States, for example, black children from families in the top income bracket perform similarly on the college entrance tests as white children from the lowest income bracket.

    a rather weird fetishization of Japanese culture.
     
    It's not weird at all. There is "fetishization" because there is much to admire in Japanese culture, for the same reason many East Asians "fetishize" about Europe and North America.

    Nice dodge with the US of A, but you don’t just control for among countries, but also for among the individuals within the country.
     
    You do realize that blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics in the U.S. commit far more violent crimes than whites and Asians? Between 1980 and 2008, for example, blacks who make up only 13% of the population committed 52% of homicides (https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf). The homicide rate in the U.S. would be in line with Europe if it had only whites and Asians.

    Brazil despite being middle-income has a higher crime rate than say Argentina–despite a roughly similar racial profile– due its high inequality ergo more poor people.
     
    "Roughly similar racial profile"? No. Brazil has a much greater fraction of the population that has African ancestry than Argentina does.* In fact, the high economic inequality in Brazil is HIGHLY RACIAL. Southern Brazil, which is heavily white (German) is prosperous. Black parts of Brazil are destitute and crime-ridden.

    *Argentina is much less black than Brazil, but has a far greater Amerindian demographic profile.

    I like how you don’t treat people as individuals, really something.
     
    More idiotic and transparent virtue-signaling.

    I am perfectly capable of separating evaluations of moral qualities of individuals and (average) national characteristics.
    , @Singh
    The Black high income murder rate is several times higher than the low income white one in USA।।

    That state Centralization reduces violence is well known & your point that if African have an iq of 80 post Flynn they can still do much better than present is also correct।।

    However, being Nigerian you're likely a recent christian convert & actually believe the liberal bs.

    People operate at a group level & it's not the planet's responsibility to fix African dysfunction nor intermarry.

    That you seem to think so proves that in the end christianity exists to africanize EurAsia as a criminal is judged by his worst crime, this is christ's।।
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  190. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cool, you should visit more of the people. The idea of judging them for the failings of a tiny sliver of its populace makes no sense.

    90%, if not more of Africans won't even get the chance to be corrupt. Who then are the real Africans, 90 or 10?

    That’s fine, but it doesn’t mean that 100% of people won’t be affected by the 10% that are corrupt. And this is low-level corruption well beyond even third world countries; in some places in Pakistan, for example, you can expect to lose 10% of your income for bribes, etc. In Cameroon, it approached 90% and made business unviable. Corruption isn’t even the right word for it, its legal robbery often enough and to the level that destroys the host. The honest, logical thing to do is to hide your income from would-be robbers, and essentially, participate in your own form of corruption(tax evasion).

    Its simply ridiculous.

    This is not a functioning society as we understand it, in the modern sense.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    That’s fine, but it doesn’t mean that 100% of people won’t be affected by the 10% that are corrupt.
     
    Absolutely. It should be plain to any reasonable intellect that 10% of the population that is corrupt (or murderous, etc.) can capture the society far more effectively than if the percentage were, say, 1%.

    Nigerian Nationalist likes to obfuscate comparisons across cultures, peoples, and countries by the tired mantra that only a small minorities engage in wrongdoing in all societies, completely ignoring the issue of scale.

    There is a HUGE qualitative difference in life in a society when one country has a homicide rate of 0.3 per 100,000 people and the other country has over 9 homicides per 100,000. Sure, the homicidal fractions of the respective populations are going to be small minorities in both, but the differing scales/fractions matter a great deal.
    , @Twinkie
    There was a joke I heard decades ago. It goes something like this:

    An African economic minister befriends an Asian economic minister at an international development conference and visits his home later. The Asian minister's house is luxurious! The African asks the Asian, "I know you are a civil servant and only get paid $3000 a month. How is it that you can have a luxurious home like this?" The Asian then points outside his window, "Do you see that gleaming new bridge?" He then points at himself, "50 percent."

    Later, the Asian minister visits the African. The African has a palatial home that makes the Asian minister's home seem puny! The Asian asks, "I know you are a civil servant and only get paid $300 a month. How can you have a HUGE palace like this?" The African then point outside the window, "Do you see that bridge?" The Asian is confused and replies, "What bridge?"

    The African points at himself and replies, "100 percent."
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  191. @Twinkie
    Points taken about the whiney natives in Taiwan, but the KMT was pretty repressive and bloodthirsty in the early years of its rule on Taiwan. Also, it's not the natives who are doing business in PRC, which poses a mortal threat to the current way of life on Taiwan.

    What was done was necessary.

    And “current way of life?” Had I known that they would go rah rah for gay rights and same sex marriages now, I would have told my dead family not to bother.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  192. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Okay, let's start at the top Capitan...

    While, yes, I did military service, that is not what I wrote. Try again.

    The fact that you immediately assume others are lying says a lot about the cultural milieu from which you hail.
     
    You said military, I assumed veteran...easy enough error. Doubting in the absence of evidence? That would put my cultural milieu in line with the enlightenment.

    It’s not obvious to you, apparently, because you refuse to see the evidences.
     
    Neither do you when it contradicts your views. E.g the Japanese have been in the news recently for quite a bit of corporate rule-breaking. In addition, how would you square their actions in their imperialist era?

    I'm more inclined towards attributing the aforementioned attributes to a high degree of State control, which correlates with income. I'm saying that rather than looking across races, you really ought to be looking at income levels. Willing to bet that at equal income levels, crime rates are similar across races.

    A Yakuza and a militant from the N/D for example are likelier to share a familial income level--differing societal scales taken into account of course-- than the kids of Billionaires from both countries. Crime is about peer influence and opportunities afterall. I'm also guessing a higher percentage of Japanese are in school than more hard drinking countries. More homework, less juveniles...


    My article was written by foreigners marveling at the OVERALL culture of most Japanese, in other words, just how honest most Japanese are in returning what belongs to others.
     
    You're a smart guy(gal?), I'm sure you've heard of implicit bias. People go to Japan expecting "OVERALL culture", a function of anime and what is--we can be honest here-- a rather weird fetishization of Japanese culture. But again, I'm willing to bet that the Norwegians aren't petty thieves either. Bringing us back to the income thing.

    You can control for income levels and get wide divergences in homicide rates. Latin America and Africa are high, Northern Europe and East Asia are low.
     
    Nice dodge with the US of A, but you don't just control for among countries, but also for among the individuals within the country. Brazil despite being middle-income has a higher crime rate than say Argentina--despite a roughly similar racial profile-- due its high inequality ergo more poor people.

    I disdain them both for different reasons.
     
    I like how you don't treat people as individuals, really something.

    You know, rather than bothering poor Steve--thanks BTW for your tolerance Mr Sailer-- we could just exchange emails, but then you might show your "cultural milieu" (:

    You said military, I assumed veteran…easy enough error.

    Go back and read again. You have a habit reading into your mind what I did not write.

    Doubting in the absence of evidence? That would put my cultural milieu in line with the enlightenment.

    Low-trust cultures are not in line with the Enlightenment, because interpersonal and social interactions are not governed by the same “rules of evidence” as, say, science. Otherwise the costs and inefficiencies of social interactions and communication would be enormous and detrimental to cohesion and smooth functioning of society. And that is why countries such as, say, Sweden and Japan are high-trust societies despite prevalence of scientism in the academic sense.

    E.g the Japanese have been in the news recently for quite a bit of corporate rule-breaking.

    Yes, there is corruption in Japan, but it is orders of magnitude less prevalent than that in Africa. You are either stupid or intellectually dishonest if you don’t understand (or pretend to not understand) the difference between scale/comparisons as opposed to on/off phenomena.

    I’m more inclined towards attributing the aforementioned attributes to a high degree of State control, which correlates with income.

    Nope. You are woefully ill-informed. North Korea has a much higher degree of state control than other societies, including South Korea, but it has appalling poverty.

    I’m saying that rather than looking across races, you really ought to be looking at income levels. Willing to bet that at equal income levels, crime rates are similar across races.

    You would lose that bet. In the United States, for example, even adjusting for income, blacks commit the most violent crimes per capita, then Hispanics, then whites, and then Asians. Race is a powerful predictor of crime, better than education levels, which in turn is a better predictor of crime than income levels.

    I will give you quick international example. In the aftermath of the Korean War, South Korea was in some rankings the third poorest country in the world after Sudan. However, its crime rate was much lower. The causes are likely genetic + environment.

    I’m also guessing a higher percentage of Japanese are in school than more hard drinking countries. More homework, less juveniles…

    Even when most Japanese were illiterate, they had a more orderly society than Africans. What you don’t seem to understand is the rare obvious implication that both low criminality and higher studiousness (and later higher income) are correlated, because they are likely caused by the same variables (some function of genes and environment acting upon each other). It’s for the same reason that, in the United States, for example, black children from families in the top income bracket perform similarly on the college entrance tests as white children from the lowest income bracket.

    a rather weird fetishization of Japanese culture.

    It’s not weird at all. There is “fetishization” because there is much to admire in Japanese culture, for the same reason many East Asians “fetishize” about Europe and North America.

    Nice dodge with the US of A, but you don’t just control for among countries, but also for among the individuals within the country.

    You do realize that blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics in the U.S. commit far more violent crimes than whites and Asians? Between 1980 and 2008, for example, blacks who make up only 13% of the population committed 52% of homicides (https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf). The homicide rate in the U.S. would be in line with Europe if it had only whites and Asians.

    Brazil despite being middle-income has a higher crime rate than say Argentina–despite a roughly similar racial profile– due its high inequality ergo more poor people.

    “Roughly similar racial profile”? No. Brazil has a much greater fraction of the population that has African ancestry than Argentina does.* In fact, the high economic inequality in Brazil is HIGHLY RACIAL. Southern Brazil, which is heavily white (German) is prosperous. Black parts of Brazil are destitute and crime-ridden.

    *Argentina is much less black than Brazil, but has a far greater Amerindian demographic profile.

    I like how you don’t treat people as individuals, really something.

    More idiotic and transparent virtue-signaling.

    I am perfectly capable of separating evaluations of moral qualities of individuals and (average) national characteristics.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist

    Go back and read again. You have a habit reading into your mind what I did not write.
     
    You said Counter-terrorism, I assumed military 'cause they are who I know of who have been leading C-T ops on the continent, I apologise.

    Low-trust cultures are not in line with the Enlightenment...
     
    I doubted a specific anecdotal story, if a lack of gullibility is the result of my larger social sphere, I accept. P.S Re "costs and inefficiencies" the US seems to have done alright, perhaps because the larger society matters little in the place of singular institutions mitigating those faults? Hence Sports teams and the military integrating successfully before the larger society. So again, I'll stick with my stance that it's the quality of institutions that matter.

    Yes, there is corruption in Japan, but it is orders of magnitude less prevalent than that in Africa.
     
    Nope, here you skip the crux of my point. It was made in response to your assertion that "different races, on average, have different propensities toward rule-breaking, impulsivity, risk-aversion, time-orientation, etc." I'm saying, holdup...where were those differing propensities once the societal rules governing Japanese society were loosened? Unless of course, they still play bayonet the baby in their spare time over there.

    Hence my assertion that while I admit these things are societal/cultural, racial, I think is a bit of a stretch. P.S you also think of societal changes, for example, the difference in risk aversion across generations. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170508-the-many-reasons-that-people-are-having-less-sex

    You do realize that blacks...

     

    Again, nice dodge, but as I said, but as is obvious from the next sentence in that paragraph, I was stating that you ought to also control for the crime statistics at individual income levels.

    No. Brazil has a much greater fraction of the population that has African ancestry than Argentina does.
     
    Fine then, swap Brazil for Costa Rica.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  193. @Daniel Chieh
    That's fine, but it doesn't mean that 100% of people won't be affected by the 10% that are corrupt. And this is low-level corruption well beyond even third world countries; in some places in Pakistan, for example, you can expect to lose 10% of your income for bribes, etc. In Cameroon, it approached 90% and made business unviable. Corruption isn't even the right word for it, its legal robbery often enough and to the level that destroys the host. The honest, logical thing to do is to hide your income from would-be robbers, and essentially, participate in your own form of corruption(tax evasion).

    Its simply ridiculous.

    This is not a functioning society as we understand it, in the modern sense.

    That’s fine, but it doesn’t mean that 100% of people won’t be affected by the 10% that are corrupt.

    Absolutely. It should be plain to any reasonable intellect that 10% of the population that is corrupt (or murderous, etc.) can capture the society far more effectively than if the percentage were, say, 1%.

    Nigerian Nationalist likes to obfuscate comparisons across cultures, peoples, and countries by the tired mantra that only a small minorities engage in wrongdoing in all societies, completely ignoring the issue of scale.

    There is a HUGE qualitative difference in life in a society when one country has a homicide rate of 0.3 per 100,000 people and the other country has over 9 homicides per 100,000. Sure, the homicidal fractions of the respective populations are going to be small minorities in both, but the differing scales/fractions matter a great deal.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  194. @Daniel Chieh
    That's fine, but it doesn't mean that 100% of people won't be affected by the 10% that are corrupt. And this is low-level corruption well beyond even third world countries; in some places in Pakistan, for example, you can expect to lose 10% of your income for bribes, etc. In Cameroon, it approached 90% and made business unviable. Corruption isn't even the right word for it, its legal robbery often enough and to the level that destroys the host. The honest, logical thing to do is to hide your income from would-be robbers, and essentially, participate in your own form of corruption(tax evasion).

    Its simply ridiculous.

    This is not a functioning society as we understand it, in the modern sense.

    There was a joke I heard decades ago. It goes something like this:

    An African economic minister befriends an Asian economic minister at an international development conference and visits his home later. The Asian minister’s house is luxurious! The African asks the Asian, “I know you are a civil servant and only get paid $3000 a month. How is it that you can have a luxurious home like this?” The Asian then points outside his window, “Do you see that gleaming new bridge?” He then points at himself, “50 percent.”

    Later, the Asian minister visits the African. The African has a palatial home that makes the Asian minister’s home seem puny! The Asian asks, “I know you are a civil servant and only get paid $300 a month. How can you have a HUGE palace like this?” The African then point outside the window, “Do you see that bridge?” The Asian is confused and replies, “What bridge?”

    The African points at himself and replies, “100 percent.”

    Read More
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Unfortunately true to life.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  195. @Twinkie
    There was a joke I heard decades ago. It goes something like this:

    An African economic minister befriends an Asian economic minister at an international development conference and visits his home later. The Asian minister's house is luxurious! The African asks the Asian, "I know you are a civil servant and only get paid $3000 a month. How is it that you can have a luxurious home like this?" The Asian then points outside his window, "Do you see that gleaming new bridge?" He then points at himself, "50 percent."

    Later, the Asian minister visits the African. The African has a palatial home that makes the Asian minister's home seem puny! The Asian asks, "I know you are a civil servant and only get paid $300 a month. How can you have a HUGE palace like this?" The African then point outside the window, "Do you see that bridge?" The Asian is confused and replies, "What bridge?"

    The African points at himself and replies, "100 percent."

    Unfortunately true to life.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  196. @Daniel Chieh
    Its partly that, but the deeper issue is that the Taiwanese have become split among factional conflicts and gotten heavily brain drained at this point; even more demoralizing than military humiliation might be economic humiliation: much of the higher educated Taiwanese just leave the province to get a job in China, and disappointment in the "end of history" female president Tsai Ing-wen is so high now that 1)Emperor Xi is more popular in Taiwan than President Tsai, and 2)almost 15% of Taiwanese want to become part of China now(up 5% in a single year).

    This doesn't seem like a country that's about to put up a fight.

    I suppose I'm unfairly biased to the technical side, but that's where a lot of the deadness comes from. Its almost impossible to do anything cutting-edge in Taiwan, if you're into drones or artificial intelligence, then your options really are either China or the US.

    I think that parts of the Europe have similar brain drain issues, though, no? Finland. But fortunately, its mostly internal from what I hear and if I was going to speculate, becomes something like "Germany gets everyone."

    Thanks for your reply. I understand where you are coming from. Here’s my answer, but really I don’t know what I’m talking about, so feel free to ignore:

    I doubt Europe has similar tech problems to Taiwan. Taiwan’s situation is so peculiar, many of its problems are really one of a kind. It feels like it doesn’t have much margin for maneuver at all. Such a small, but rich, country, with so many big problems… This crazy situation reminds me a bit of Israel’s, but Taiwan has, by construction, less sense of identity and purpose, less freedom to act, and less political influence.

    European countries certainly do have plenty of reasons to worry about being left behind technologically by the US and China. (And they have a whole different set of problems with low-quality immigration, which Taiwan doesn’t seem to have, despite Vietnamese and Filipino and Indonesian etc. (short-term?) immigrants) But European countries are not constantly in Taiwan’s risky situation where its very existence as a sovereign nation is directly threatened.

    With regard to the tech industry, Europe and Taiwan may have one thing going for them: Europe’s cultural closeness with the US and Silicon Valley is a little bit like Taiwan’s cultural closeness to China. I know many in Taiwan prefer to avoid looking towards China, but there must be some benefits to the close business and cultural connections they have with China. A lot of Europeans seem pretty clueless about China.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  197. @Karl
    45 Altai > Is Manila not safe?


    it's certainly safer than most of California, and Manila is the most dangerous place in the Philippines

    but that's not why I came here today.

    I came here today to mention that Japan ==does== have a fairly liberal policy about granting residency to people who can prove that they had a Japanese grandparent.

    Many of the beneficiarees are Filipinos, because Japanese, since the 1920's or so, like to retire to the warmer climate which isn't THAT far from Nippon itself.

    You arrive in Phils as a 63 year old guy, next thing you know you've knocked up some 23 year old province beauty.

    You arrive in Phils as a 63 year old guy, next thing you know you’ve knocked up some 23 year old province beauty.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.:-) As a natalist, I heartily approve.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  198. @mobi

    I left my iPhone on the train in Osaka. It made it all the way to Himeji where the conductors picked it up and put it in lost and found. Returned.

    Unfortunately, I also left my wallet in my bicycle basket in my apartment building, and it was “turned in” to the police without any cash or my pre-paid train pass in it. The police made sure to let me know that the man who “turned it in” didn’t want any reward.
     
    I surveyed my Korean adult students more than once on 'what would Koreans do with a found wallet'. Almost unanimously - 'Return it via mail or police, minus the cash'. They thought it was obvious they were entitled to the cash, and not the rest.

    I left a handful of cash on a park bench on the (deserted) oceanfront in central Fukuoka. I got a block or two away before realizing and turning back. Initially, I hurried a bit, but then I thought - 'calm down - this is Japan. Everybody knows it will still be there in a month.' So I slowed down.

    It was gone. Maybe I should have checked the local police station.

    You missed the important point where my wallet was “recovered” out of my bicycle basket. Yes, I forgot it, but it wasn’t lying on the sidewalk.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  199. And yet, despite Japan’s track record, the number of refugee applications is significant and increasing. Why do people bother to apply?

    Are there middlemen — NGOs, lawyers — making money applying? Do people think that the dam will burst as Japan finally gets woke?

    Or it just human nature to apply despite long odds. “So you’re saying there’s a chance!”

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  200. @Twinkie

    You said military, I assumed veteran…easy enough error.
     
    Go back and read again. You have a habit reading into your mind what I did not write.

    Doubting in the absence of evidence? That would put my cultural milieu in line with the enlightenment.
     
    Low-trust cultures are not in line with the Enlightenment, because interpersonal and social interactions are not governed by the same "rules of evidence" as, say, science. Otherwise the costs and inefficiencies of social interactions and communication would be enormous and detrimental to cohesion and smooth functioning of society. And that is why countries such as, say, Sweden and Japan are high-trust societies despite prevalence of scientism in the academic sense.

    E.g the Japanese have been in the news recently for quite a bit of corporate rule-breaking.
     
    Yes, there is corruption in Japan, but it is orders of magnitude less prevalent than that in Africa. You are either stupid or intellectually dishonest if you don't understand (or pretend to not understand) the difference between scale/comparisons as opposed to on/off phenomena.

    I’m more inclined towards attributing the aforementioned attributes to a high degree of State control, which correlates with income.
     
    Nope. You are woefully ill-informed. North Korea has a much higher degree of state control than other societies, including South Korea, but it has appalling poverty.

    I’m saying that rather than looking across races, you really ought to be looking at income levels. Willing to bet that at equal income levels, crime rates are similar across races.
     
    You would lose that bet. In the United States, for example, even adjusting for income, blacks commit the most violent crimes per capita, then Hispanics, then whites, and then Asians. Race is a powerful predictor of crime, better than education levels, which in turn is a better predictor of crime than income levels.

    I will give you quick international example. In the aftermath of the Korean War, South Korea was in some rankings the third poorest country in the world after Sudan. However, its crime rate was much lower. The causes are likely genetic + environment.

    I’m also guessing a higher percentage of Japanese are in school than more hard drinking countries. More homework, less juveniles…
     
    Even when most Japanese were illiterate, they had a more orderly society than Africans. What you don't seem to understand is the rare obvious implication that both low criminality and higher studiousness (and later higher income) are correlated, because they are likely caused by the same variables (some function of genes and environment acting upon each other). It's for the same reason that, in the United States, for example, black children from families in the top income bracket perform similarly on the college entrance tests as white children from the lowest income bracket.

    a rather weird fetishization of Japanese culture.
     
    It's not weird at all. There is "fetishization" because there is much to admire in Japanese culture, for the same reason many East Asians "fetishize" about Europe and North America.

    Nice dodge with the US of A, but you don’t just control for among countries, but also for among the individuals within the country.
     
    You do realize that blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics in the U.S. commit far more violent crimes than whites and Asians? Between 1980 and 2008, for example, blacks who make up only 13% of the population committed 52% of homicides (https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf). The homicide rate in the U.S. would be in line with Europe if it had only whites and Asians.

    Brazil despite being middle-income has a higher crime rate than say Argentina–despite a roughly similar racial profile– due its high inequality ergo more poor people.
     
    "Roughly similar racial profile"? No. Brazil has a much greater fraction of the population that has African ancestry than Argentina does.* In fact, the high economic inequality in Brazil is HIGHLY RACIAL. Southern Brazil, which is heavily white (German) is prosperous. Black parts of Brazil are destitute and crime-ridden.

    *Argentina is much less black than Brazil, but has a far greater Amerindian demographic profile.

    I like how you don’t treat people as individuals, really something.
     
    More idiotic and transparent virtue-signaling.

    I am perfectly capable of separating evaluations of moral qualities of individuals and (average) national characteristics.

    Go back and read again. You have a habit reading into your mind what I did not write.

    You said Counter-terrorism, I assumed military ’cause they are who I know of who have been leading C-T ops on the continent, I apologise.

    Low-trust cultures are not in line with the Enlightenment…

    I doubted a specific anecdotal story, if a lack of gullibility is the result of my larger social sphere, I accept. P.S Re “costs and inefficiencies” the US seems to have done alright, perhaps because the larger society matters little in the place of singular institutions mitigating those faults? Hence Sports teams and the military integrating successfully before the larger society. So again, I’ll stick with my stance that it’s the quality of institutions that matter.

    Yes, there is corruption in Japan, but it is orders of magnitude less prevalent than that in Africa.

    Nope, here you skip the crux of my point. It was made in response to your assertion that “different races, on average, have different propensities toward rule-breaking, impulsivity, risk-aversion, time-orientation, etc.” I’m saying, holdup…where were those differing propensities once the societal rules governing Japanese society were loosened? Unless of course, they still play bayonet the baby in their spare time over there.

    Hence my assertion that while I admit these things are societal/cultural, racial, I think is a bit of a stretch. P.S you also think of societal changes, for example, the difference in risk aversion across generations. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170508-the-many-reasons-that-people-are-having-less-sex

    You do realize that blacks…

    Again, nice dodge, but as I said, but as is obvious from the next sentence in that paragraph, I was stating that you ought to also control for the crime statistics at individual income levels.

    No. Brazil has a much greater fraction of the population that has African ancestry than Argentina does.

    Fine then, swap Brazil for Costa Rica.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  201. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Okay, let's start at the top Capitan...

    While, yes, I did military service, that is not what I wrote. Try again.

    The fact that you immediately assume others are lying says a lot about the cultural milieu from which you hail.
     
    You said military, I assumed veteran...easy enough error. Doubting in the absence of evidence? That would put my cultural milieu in line with the enlightenment.

    It’s not obvious to you, apparently, because you refuse to see the evidences.
     
    Neither do you when it contradicts your views. E.g the Japanese have been in the news recently for quite a bit of corporate rule-breaking. In addition, how would you square their actions in their imperialist era?

    I'm more inclined towards attributing the aforementioned attributes to a high degree of State control, which correlates with income. I'm saying that rather than looking across races, you really ought to be looking at income levels. Willing to bet that at equal income levels, crime rates are similar across races.

    A Yakuza and a militant from the N/D for example are likelier to share a familial income level--differing societal scales taken into account of course-- than the kids of Billionaires from both countries. Crime is about peer influence and opportunities afterall. I'm also guessing a higher percentage of Japanese are in school than more hard drinking countries. More homework, less juveniles...


    My article was written by foreigners marveling at the OVERALL culture of most Japanese, in other words, just how honest most Japanese are in returning what belongs to others.
     
    You're a smart guy(gal?), I'm sure you've heard of implicit bias. People go to Japan expecting "OVERALL culture", a function of anime and what is--we can be honest here-- a rather weird fetishization of Japanese culture. But again, I'm willing to bet that the Norwegians aren't petty thieves either. Bringing us back to the income thing.

    You can control for income levels and get wide divergences in homicide rates. Latin America and Africa are high, Northern Europe and East Asia are low.
     
    Nice dodge with the US of A, but you don't just control for among countries, but also for among the individuals within the country. Brazil despite being middle-income has a higher crime rate than say Argentina--despite a roughly similar racial profile-- due its high inequality ergo more poor people.

    I disdain them both for different reasons.
     
    I like how you don't treat people as individuals, really something.

    You know, rather than bothering poor Steve--thanks BTW for your tolerance Mr Sailer-- we could just exchange emails, but then you might show your "cultural milieu" (:

    The Black high income murder rate is several times higher than the low income white one in USA।।

    That state Centralization reduces violence is well known & your point that if African have an iq of 80 post Flynn they can still do much better than present is also correct।।

    However, being Nigerian you’re likely a recent christian convert & actually believe the liberal bs.

    People operate at a group level & it’s not the planet’s responsibility to fix African dysfunction nor intermarry.

    That you seem to think so proves that in the end christianity exists to africanize EurAsia as a criminal is judged by his worst crime, this is christ’s।।

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
The major media overlooked Communist spies and Madoff’s fraud. What are they missing today?
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
What Was John McCain's True Wartime Record in Vietnam?
The evidence is clear — but often ignored