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People have been looking forward to/dreading this — the computerized revival of dead actors — for some time now, with James Dean long striking me as the likeliest due to his die young, stay pretty career. From the Hollywood Reporter:

James Dean Reborn in CGI for Vietnam War Action-Drama (Exclusive)

6:10 AM PST 11/6/2019 by Alex Ritman

The cultural icon, who died in 1955, will return to the screen via CGI using actual footage and photos for ‘Finding Jack.’

James Dean, who died in a 1955 car crash at the age of 24, is making an unexpected return to the big screen.

The cultural icon, known for Rebel Without a Cause and East of Eden, has been posthumously cast in the Vietnam era action-drama Finding Jack. …

While Finding Jack will be live action, The Hollywood Reporter understands that Dean’s performance will be constructed via “full body” CGI using actual footage and photos. Another actor will voice him.

… The filmmakers are now hoping that the CGI technology used to bring Dean back to life onscreen could soon be deployed on other well-known figures.

“This opens up a whole new opportunity for many of our clients who are no longer with us,” said Mark Roesler, CEO of CMG Worldwide, which represents Dean’s family alongside more than 1,700 entertainment, sports, music and historical personalities, including the likes of Burt Reynolds, Christopher Reeve, Ingrid Bergman, Neil Armstrong, Bette Davis and Jack Lemmon. …

Barton added: “Now that we have closed with this iconic figure, we look forward to rapidly closing our remaining actors.”

Uhhhh … I believe the phrase “we look forward to rapidly closing our remaining actors” is actually intended in a less dystopian sense than it sounds. They don’t mean “put our society’s remaining actors out to pasture,” they mean “close contractual deals with the rest of our intended cast, most of whom are living human beings.”

I think.

Does CGI really work? Is it yet practical to keep old actors going indefinitely? In my review of The Irishman, I consider whether Netflix got its money’s worth out of digitally de-aging the old time actors.

I suspect teenage girls will be the last demographic to give up on living celebrities. They like new celebrities just a little older than themselves.

 
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  1. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:

    Moviemakers who do this need their fingers broken. Besides, there are plenty of people who want to be actors they can audition. Hollywood does not lack talent.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna, BB753
    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    , @bomag
  2. Hahaha.
    What’s next on your list, Alt Right Losers.
    You guys have lost this war against the tide of color.
    Genetic Extinction from the planet earth is on the horizon for the White Trashionalists.
    I fear that more terrorists like NZ shooter and James Field will emerge who will trybto kill People of Color.
    Alt Right is done and dusted.
    Immigration will increase.
    Open borders will be a reality under any Democrat Presidency.
    Integration will increase.
    Your birth rates in crowded cities will continue to decrease due to a dearth of housing.
    Your women nowadays are more likely to have babies with Black men and Men of Indian descent(this one is empirical observation of mine) than ever before. Have lived in college towns and due to fact that Asian men and White women are overrepresented in their cohorts at colleges, these unions are much more prevelant than many others.
    I don’t think there would be any whites left in the near future.
    It’s payback time.
    Lol, Enjoy your time and I hope its as miserable as it gets for you and your bigoted descendants.

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @Sam Coulton
  3. Blogger says:

    Please stick to your donation begging bread and butter: racial resentment.

  4. Someday they will just preserve their most bankable actors’ heads in jars, as they do in Futurama world.

  5. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Does CGI really work?

    Rachel in BLADE RUNNER 2049 was pretty good but not good enough for Deckard.

    Dean in Vietnam. That’s a good movie idea. “Uhhhhhh sarge…. you’re tearing me apart.”

    In a way, it’s like JURASSIC PARK. Bringing back the dead on screen. But maybe Hollywood will make future actors sign contracts to provide their DNA. That way, it won’t merely be CGI. Every generation will have its own cloned Tom Cruise.

  6. “This opens up a whole new opportunity for many of our clients who are no longer with us,”

    This needs to be highlighted and duly ranked as one of the stupidest things ever said.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Sue D. Nim
  7. AnonAnon says:

    Does CGI really work?

    No, CGI people are plastic and creepy – Carrie Fisher in Rogue One, Michael Douglas in Ant Man, young RDJ in Civil War, Grandpa Captain America in Endgame – all terrible, and their unsettling looks take you right of the story.

    • Agree: slumber_j
    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @El Dato
    , @Jack D
  8. @Intelligent Dasein

    Will Dean’s dead agent get his 10%?

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  9. Sounds very gimmicky.

    Kind of like what they did with the awful flop Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, bringing in the dead Sir Laurence Olivier just to show off their special effects that were supposed to make the movie a hit.

    Yeah teen girls will fight it, but also horny men like their meat fresh.

  10. @Anon

    Hollywood does not lack talent.

    That’s quite a change. When did it happen?

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  11. My guess is the CGI is not there yet, but within 5-10 years there will be enough capital (both financial and institutional) to combine CGI visuals with high-grade voice acting (which, by my impression, lags behind in sophistication) will be a new way of making hybrid animated/live-action movies that look real enough. Within 20 years…it’ll depend on whether the new screen-guild-y coalition will be able to slow down tech adoption and hold out their options or whatever.

    In all seriousness, what would be the outcome of CGI replacing the big screen faces of Hollywood? An acceleration of woke hysteria? More infighting between races and factions for a smaller number of roles that require only the highest caliber actors? I suppose the VFX “nerds” will have their moment in the sun. Good for them, it’ll certainly be an era of really interesting technical work. I’m not really looking forward to the neurotic personalities (especially the actresses) that have been enticed by Hollywood rejoining broader society. Rule by Actresses, Steve?

    • Replies: @Tex
  12. Convincing CGI humans is the ultimate test for the technology. Our brains are fine-tuned by millions of years of evolution to detect human faces, we’re very very very good at noticing when something is ‘off’. The most convincing ever done in my opinion was Rachel in the new Blade Runner movie. She’s entirely CGI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=724JhpqKEmY

    But it helps that she showed basically no emotion and the scene is lit with sepia tones and lots of shadows. We’re still a long ways off, if we ever get there, from a completely realistic-looking, indistinguishable-from-the-real-thing CGI face showing a range of expressions in full lighting, as the recent attempts by Star Wars have shown.

  13. Tropic Blunder
    Or: Never Go Full CGI

    De-aged Ben Stiller and reanimated James Dean costar in
    Finding Simple Jack.

    [MORE]

    Also see – Suez Crisis: East of Anthony Eden
    See also – James Dean and Jimmy Dean costar in war epic,
    Pure Pork Sausage Hill,
    James Dean and Jayne Mansfield go head-to-head in
    Romantic Road Kill,
    Jane Austen stars in Jayne Mansfield Park ‘N Drive ‘N Die

  14. Waiting for when this hits porn….

    • LOL: Kronos
  15. Franz says:

    CGI of Peter Cushing in Rogue One was ghastly.

    Easily both the fakest and most goulish thing I ever saw and the reason I didn’t see the Carrie Fisher paintjob. Walked out way before.

    Blame the estates: Peter Cushing’s estate got a nice payday. And Robin Williams reportedly sold the rights to “use his likeness” years before he died.

    The dead rob the living out of a job. Bugger ’em all.

  16. @Anonymous

    Don’t It Make
    My Brown Eyes…Green?
    Or: Yes, My Implanted
    Memories Remember It Well

    In Blade Runner 2019, unlike Blade Runner 2049, Rachel’s replicant eyes were green-lighted.

    Why does Deckard say Rachaels eyes were Green ? from bladerunner

  17. O/T

    A ‘missing link’ between humans and our ape-like ancestors that lived around 12 million years ago has been unearthed in Bavaria, Germany.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7656993/12-million-year-old-ape-fossil-straight-legs-missing-link-primates-humans.html

    Yep, we’re all out of Africa. Must be, because they they describe him/her/it as an ape. Not as evolved like James Dean, but possibly closer than our African cousins. You have to love settled science

  18. Uhhhh … I believe the phrase “we look forward to rapidly closing our remaining actors” is actually intended in a less dystopian sense than it sounds. They don’t mean “put our society’s remaining actors out to pasture,” they mean “close contractual deals with the rest of our intended cast, most of whom are living human beings.”

    I think.

    Wouldn’t they say the are looking forward to signing the remaining actors?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  19. Kronos says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Where did this all this hate come from? I’d wager your a leftest incel (SJWs always project right?) This is a thing about classic actors like John Wayne coming back to the silver (actually CGI) screen. So the rant isn’t even on the right thread.

  20. @Redneck farmer

    Sturm und Donald?
    Or: And Daniels Has Stormy Eyes…

    De-aged Donald and Daniels costar in
    Behind The Green Room Door

    Coming To A Trailer Park Near You!

    De-aged Bill Clinton nabs top billing in
    The Devil and Miss Paula Jones

    • Replies: @Kronos
  21. @The Alarmist

    Hollywood Reporter and Variety traditionally delight in slanguage like “Sticks Nix Hick Pix.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticks_Nix_Hick_Pix

  22. @M Krauthammar

    Asian incels are in STEM, white females are in the basketweaving departments.

  23. Kronos says:
    @AnonAnon

    It’s improved over the years, but still kinda creepy. Goes a lot better in computer games. A setting where everything is “false” in the same way. Reality and CGI mixtures really make the faces standout.

  24. Kronos says:
    @reactionry

    De-aged Bill Clinton nabs top billing in
    The Devil and Miss Paula Jones

    Actually, just use Jeffrey Epstein’s face. Just say the proceeds will go to his victims. But don’t CGI render the egg-shaped penis. The world’s not ready for that…

  25. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:

    John Wayne was cancelled. I sure they’ll dig up something on James Dean before the movie is released. So the producers should probably prepare a variety of heartfelt Dean apologies for the most likely situations and get the CGI guys working on getting those in the can early.

    “When I saw the kinescope of me patting Mae West on the bottom outside the Brown Derby, I was sickened. Although I don’t remember it, I fully accept responsibility. It was a different time and place but that is no excuse. I must do better in combating the patriarchy.”

    The audioanimatronics team will need to figure out how to pull off an apology appearance on The View. They just need to soup up the Meet Mr. Lincoln technology a bit.

  26. Two things I predict will never make it: Self driving cars and dead movie stars.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Jack D
    , @anonymous
  27. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Why not just hold a seance?

    • Replies: @El Dato
  28. George says:

    Would James ‘Rebel without a cause’ Dean have done a movie where he plays a soldier finding himself with the help of his dog Jack during the war in Vietnam? Now actors that didn’t sell out during life, because they died in their 20s, can sell out in their CGI after life. I don’t think they should say it starred James Dean. Maybe it should say James Dean played by, recreated by, impersonated by …

    Finding Jack

    Following a tragic accident, Fletcher Carson joins the flagging war effort in Vietnam. Lost and lonely, he plans to die in the war. But after stumbling upon a critically injured Lab, Fletcher unexpectedly begins to regain his will to live. When the war ends, Fletcher is forced to abandon his dog. But how do you leave your best friend behind? So together they embark on an adventure against all odds to fight for survival. Written by Anton Ernst

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7176706/

    I hope he wins a third posthumous Oscar for best actor.

    Dean became the first actor to receive a posthumous Academy Award nomination for Best Actor, and remains the only actor to have had two posthumous acting nominations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dean#Early_life

  29. Another thing Hollywood gets to do is retcon the perception of these dead actors’ political beliefs. I have no idea what Dean’s personal politics were, but when his posthumous recasts have him portraying a tranny lawyer fighting for child prostitution rights, young people will associate those things with his true persona, and the great con of wokeness can be backdated even further with greater, albeit false, legitimacy.

  30. @Counterinsurgency

    It’s not a change, it’s always been true. NY and LA both are fairly awash in performing-arts talent, which is what he’s describing.

    Writing talent is much more rare, and then of course there’s the undeniable fact that all kinds of talent are put in service of a particular malevolence. But that’s “Entertainment”.

  31. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    Dean in Vietnam. That’s a good movie idea. “Uhhhhhh sarge…. you’re tearing me apart.”

    I never got the whole “James Dean, the great actor” thing. Really? He just seemed whiny, annoying, and hammy to me.

    • Agree: Alden
  32. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:

    Brings to mind the old science fiction classic “The Darfsteller,” in which live stage actors have been replaced by robots. No union problems, no temperamental actors showing up late on the set or throwing fits over who gets the biggest dressing room. Ideal for the studio.

    Question: will the CGI James Dean still do those quirky, mannered, “look at me” bits of stage business (see e.g. “Rebel Without a Cause”) to draw attention to himself? Will Marlon Brando put on Eva Marie Saint’s glove to keep the audience looking at him (“On the Waterfront”)?

  33. BB753 says:
    @Redneck farmer

    The technology is there.
    Look at these CGI face swaps called Deep Fakes :

  34. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    I think this points towards the rise of the “mega entertainer” — the celebrity with a certain charisma, who does not go off the rails when relentlessly marketing products, and whose endorsement says something about the product itself. “The Rock” comes to mind — family/teenage boy friendly, fun, positive, marketed towards the working class, with maybe a slight bent towards minorities. You could easily see this with Taylor Swift, Kendall Jenner and others.

    Basically, they could show up periodically for filming, to cover the key emotional scenes where pure CGI would struggle and also do voice overs. This would let audiences know it’s not 100% fake, which is important. Lip syncing bad; heavy autotune okay. The plausible deniability of at least some acting is important.

    I think America’s ethnic fragmentation will be a big driver of this. People will look to entertainers for affirmation of their ethnic identity and values. The celebrity’s overall personality and disposition will be more important than their acting/singing talents. Taylor Swift is a good example, whose appeal is overwhelmingly to White core America. She also unapologetically embodies the positive traits of White women that most Black and lower-class Hispanic women will never have, so naturally, they hate her.

    I suspect Whites will always have a slight preference for actual actors. Asians won’t care. Hispanics probably won’t really notice. Blacks really, really seem to enjoy conflict between black celebrities. So as long as they can mentally hangout on the porch and watch two blacks go at it, they will be entertained, CGI or not.

  35. Ian Smith says:

    James Dean was a horrible actor. I remember watching East of Eden and wondering if his character was supposed to be retarded.

  36. This is hilarious. Robert De Niro and Al Pacino will extend their careers by holding poses for the CGI cameras, or do they even have to do that? They won’t even talk; their dialogue can be constructed. It’s 1990 forever!

    All this tech, eliminating the need for human performance of increasingly complex tasks, and the bar for remunerative skillsets goes up and up. Why is their still a 40 work-week? Why do we still import a million people a year? Even boy wonder Prince Andrew (Yang) won’t address the implications.

  37. Do actors today have more or less power than they did in old Hollywood? I’ve thought one reason modern movies (that try to be serious) are so bad, is that narcissistic actors demand weepy close ups and over-emotional scenes at the expense of a good story.

  38. bomag says:
    @Anon

    I suspect bad reviews and pushback from nostalgic fans will give this a short lifespan.

  39. El Dato says:
    @AnonAnon

    That’s going to change VERY FAST.

    On-the-fly corrections to the plasticy raw CGI made by Antagonistic Neural Networks will be there within a couple of years.

  40. El Dato says:
    @Franz

    Easily both the fakest and most goulish thing I ever saw and the reason I didn’t see the Carrie Fisher paintjob. Walked out way before.

    That’s like walking out on early 20-century “special effects”, risible today.

    You missed out on a fun old-school story with some weaknesses.

    As long as the movie does not REVOLVE around the re-created actor, it’s ok.

  41. James Dean? Didn’t he die in Alberta a few years ago? Oops, I am not suppose to talk about that.

  42. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    What if Epstein shows up?

  43. Tex says:
    @anon_californian

    In all seriousness, what would be the outcome of CGI replacing the big screen faces of Hollywood? An acceleration of woke hysteria?

    At the moment that’s a safe bet for any situation. CGI actors? CGI is racist! Video doorbell? Racist! Pot bellied pig too big and sh****** all over the place? Racist and homophobic as f****!

  44. El Dato says:

    From William Gibson’ “Idoru”, 1996:

    “I still don’t know who I’ll really be working for. For him? For Blackwell?”

    “Your employer is Paragon-Asia Dataflow, Melbourne. They are employing me as well.”

    “What about Blackwell?”

  45. El Dato says:
    @Father O'Hara

    These two things are not alike at all.

    “Self-driving cars” is where the rubber literally hits the road and realiyt impose hard constraints on response times and decision quality. => HARD

    “Dead movie stars” is just another veneer of flimflammery where you can throw people, tech and computers at the problem in your own time. And when the first take fails, you can try again. And again. It just has to look good in theaters => EASY.

    Expect the latter sooner rather than later, the former only in niche applications.

  46. Jack D says:
    @AnonAnon

    This is the well known “Uncanny Valley”. We can relate to humans and we can relate to obvious cartoon characters but in between, in the Uncanny Valley, we find things that look ALMOST but not quite human to be extremely creepy even if we can’t verbalize why. The solution to the Uncanny Valley in Hollywood is to cross it to the point where the audience can no longer distinguish CGI actors from live actors, not even on a gut level. If the CGI figure looks 100% like a real actor then there’s no creep factor. But up until now they have not fully crossed the valley. 99% of the way across still plunges you into the chasm. But it’s really only a matter of time before they make it all the way across, given the rate of progress in computer science.

  47. Jack D says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Never say never. There are many computer science problems which were once thought to be insurmountable – computer recognition of text, computer recognition of voice, computer translation, computer ability to play chess at a grandmaster level, etc. which have not only been surmounted but are surmounted every day by a computer that fits in your pocket (which we call a cell phone). The fact that today’s cell phones have more memory and processing power than 1980s supercomputers has a lot to do with this – quantity has its own quality.

  48. KunioKun says:

    Being able to download off-the-shelf actors to put into your own movie would be fantastic. It would lower the bar for creating movies which means more movies from normal people about normal people things instead of sex perverts who hate me rubbing their filth wrapped in sugar in my face. Disrupt! Disrupt! Disrupt! People involved in movies are so horrid putting them out on the street where they belong through relentless competition sounds great.

  49. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    Peter Cushing got a flat fee for his Star Wars work, and was always envious of Alec Guinness for getting a percentage of the profits. I guess this way he finally gets even.

  50. Jack D says:
    @Franz

    Really? I had no problem with it. If I hadn’t been told that Cushing was dead and this was his avatar, I might have been fooled. This is a movie with all sorts of unbelievable space creatures already. They carefully lit the scene in semi-darkness so that the CGI Cushing looks no less fake than the human actor:

    You’re willing to accept these guys but not a CGI Cushing?

  51. Does literature or fiction ever have an impact on society, accept for the potential fun it gives. I think Steve has said Star Trek inspired young guys working at NASA and in science.

    But I’m starting to think the whole field is totally overrated in the sense it’s usually sold to us. Now, if it’s authentic, with a voice and tone that comes from a particular people, then that both reinforces their beliefs and their community.

    But that’s a far cry from high handed attempts to “remake” people or set their souls on fire by making them read some 500 year old dense text. Most of that is just to make sure professors can keep getting their fat checks.

  52. Sue D. Nim says: • Website
    @Intelligent Dasein

    There’s lots of money being made by dead rock stars!

    The documentary reveals how Elvis was the architect of the entire legacy industry and how his lawyers, working on behalf of his family, changed American law to permit the surviving family members to benefit from his rights of publicity. It shows Prince’s story to be a cautionary tale for those without a will, and ponders how Bob Marley has retained his dignity despite attaching his name to everything from bath salts to electric goods and Californian marijuana. Linda Ramone professes her love of ‘merch’ and explains how her dead husband’s influential but niche NY punk act, The Ramones, continues to stand for something way beyond their music. Finally, Frank Zappa’s son delves into the morality of hologram tours, as illustrated by his father’s, before the immaculate planning of David Bowie sets out how to go about it the right way.

    Last year, the top five estates of the most cherished ‘deceased’ popstars earned an incredible US$0.5bn – this documentary shows you how they did it.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0009tqh/get-rich-or-try-dying-musics-mega-legacies

  53. anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Something needs to be understood about self-driving cars. The reason they are not being used regularly is because of institutional failure in Silicon Valley and local government.

    Silicon Valley has overly-relied on researchers for managing these teams, which has resulted in a misallocation of resources, away from shuttles using pre-defined routes to fully autonomous cars. It would be like asking Nikolay Tesla to both build and construct the power grid. It would be a disaster that would still be in the research phase.

    Conversely, basically every local government in the US has dropped the ball in not pushing for having autonomous shuttles running on pre-defined routes. The only city that has taken this half-way seriously? Las Vegas.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/traffic/las-vegas-plans-to-accelerate-autonomous-driving-initiatives-1634569/

  54. @Redneck farmer

    It already has, and amateurs can do it. Look for ‘deep fake’ on 4chan’s /gif/ board.

    • Agree: Tusk
  55. c matt says:

    On the bright side, dead actors can’t run for office.

  56. B36 says:

    Who cares about dead actors. I want an app that lets me take a picture of my face and then paint it with perfect natural animation on John Wayne. I think me in “The Conqueror” would be awesome.
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049092/

  57. Old Prude says:

    I don’t understand the point of CGI dead people in movies except as a parlor trick. Who decides the fake image’s facial expression, intonation, verbal delivery, body language? That’s what made the actor something besides a pretty face. An Elvis impersonator has more authenticity and reason for existing than a CGI movie image of a dead actor.

  58. @Anonymous

    Yes, and they’ll be able to modify the genetic material to make necessary improvements.

    Imagine a Tom Cruise who is 6’3″ and heterosexual! It sounds bizarre, but they’ll be able to do it one day.

  59. @Franz

    If you walked out of Rogue One, then you sure as hell didn’t make it through The Last Jedi.

    A friend of mine is a lifelong Star Wars fan who recently spent hundreds of dollars on a custom Vader costume. (Interestingly enough, he’s not a total social reject.) He told me the other day that he expects to have more fun LARPing in the lobby than watching the upcoming Soy Wars installment. He’s going only out a sense of obligation, like attending a distant relative’s funeral.

  60. Run, Mr Sailer, do not walk to see a film called The Congress (the 2013 one with Robin Wright). IIRC it’s free with Amazon Prime…

  61. People have been looking forward to/dreading this — the computerized revival of dead actors — for some time now, with James Dean long striking me as the likeliest due to his die young, stay pretty career.

    Why stop at the deceased? There is no reason to exclude those who haven’t yet, in Steve’s memorable formulation, undergone the formality of existing. I think we’re not far from the day that Haven Monahan will be inserted into video of various crimes.

  62. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    He reminds me of Hayden Christensen, another terrible whiny actor. Actors who die young have the myth going for them. We never got to see him as a potbellied old man with a drug problem and out of step political views. He’s forever young.

  63. @Mr. Anon

    He was never a great actor, just a great face for girls to oogle.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Alden
  64. Dube says:

    If you visit the National Steinbeck Center in Salinas, you’d think it’s about James Dean.

    CGI might correct Olivier’s Henry V “Once more into the breach” hollering from a rearing horse to have him dismount and deliver martial instruction eye to eye.

    • Replies: @Dube
  65. They’ve been doing this with cartoons for decades. Why not with meat puppets, too?

    It was understandable when Natalie Cole did a posthumous duet and video with the father she lost at young age. But the creepy trend that started was indefensible.

    Jerry Hadley did one of these with Mario Lanza, “Golden Days”, on an album of the same name. Less disturbing, though still creepy in a different way, was his duet with the not-quite-dead Tony Randall, “I Love to Go Swimmin’ With Wimmin’”. (Randall was born before Lanza, who had been dead 35 years when this record was released.)

    Now that Hadley has killed himself with an air rifle (?), perhaps someone can do the same favor for him. Interestingly, the top review on Amazon says that Hadley was a better singer than Lanza, at least in operetta:

    https://www.amazon.com/Jerry-Hadley-Golden-Tenor-Operetta/dp/B000003FQQ

    • Replies: @Anon87
  66. unit472 says:

    I’d like to see the movie version of the book “Unfit for Command’ with a CGI John Kerry appearing in his real life role as a Swift boat warrior shirking his duty and then leading protests in the US after his grueling tour of duty in Vietnam. Perhaps a youthful Senator Blumenthal could also be inserted in the movie as an infantry officer palling around with Kerry in Saigon

    • Agree: Old Prude
  67. Svevlad says:

    The final level: procedurally generated CGI actors from genetic samples. No need for stuntsmen, heck you only have to pay any schmuck to use his appearance (and not even that, you can modify the simulated development to the point the character will only slightly resemble the donor). No actual acting means no need for talent, however, it can be made to look a lot more genuine

  68. Dube says:
    @Dube

    CGI might correct Olivier’s Henry V “Once more into the breach” hollering from a rearing horse to have him dismount and deliver martial instruction eye to eye.

    I should suggest, as the script indicates.

  69. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The cable channel AMC showed “Rebel Without A Cause” a few years ago, with a discussion between the host and Sally Field during breaks. I was amazed that she pointed out one of Dean’s artificial, overly stagey actions: “Look at that! Who does that? Real people don’t do that.”

    Mucho respect for the Flying Nun.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    , @Jack D
  70. Old Prude says:
    @anonymous

    Don’t know much about Rebel, but Dean in Giant put Taylor and Hudson to shame. Every scene with Jet is really good.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  71. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Prude

    Agree about “Giant.” Yes, I’ll admit that Dean is generally the person you look at when he’s on the screen…the test of an actor with star quality…in “Rebel,” though, he does not to seem to know when to stop.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  72. @anonymous

    In “Giant,” Dean went out of his way to play an eccentric character role to stretch himself beyond his first two leading man roles. Considering he died in a car crash at age 24, he probably would have gone on to have a fine career.

  73. Mr. Anon says:
    @Sam Coulton

    He reminds me of Hayden Christensen, another terrible whiny actor.

    Yes, he is awful too. Maybe it didn’t stand out so much in the Star Wars prequels because they all sucked so much.

  74. Mr. Anon says:

    Why not insert the actual likeness of a real historical figure in the movies; for example a movie about Winston Churchill that appears to star Winston Churchill.

  75. Jack D says:
    @anonymous

    At the time Rebel was filmed, Dean was 24 and barely trained as a film actor, so give the guy a break. It takes a long time to adjust to film acting which requires subtlety much more than the stage. Also acting styles change. Everyone thinks that the acting of their generation is “naturalistic” but it always looks artificial to the next generation because in fact acting IS artifice. I think if we played a highlight reel of Sally’s worst acting on camera, there would be plenty of material, so people who live in glass houses, etc.

  76. “I understand this science fiction is very popular, but, um, don’t the big hits always have big stars?”
    “Well, we have a big star… Bela Lugosi.”
    “Oh, I thought he passed on.”
    “Yes. Yes, he did. But I’ve got the last footage he ever shot.”
    “Doesn’t look like very much.”
    “Mr. Reynolds, this is the acorn that will grow a great oak. I’ll just get a double to finish his scenes, and we’ll release it as Bela Lugosi’s final film….”
    “Bunny? We’re makin’ another movie.”

    Perhaps it’s just me, but it seems like Ed Wood would fit in better today than in his time.

  77. Alden says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Don’t forget a great face and slim boyish body for gay men to ogle.

    I’ve seen rebel without a-cause a few times on TV. It’s just embarrassing. I’ve been told it was a great hit with teens, but that’s hard to understand. What teen would want to be like that neurotic, whiny pitiful trio?

    He was great in that preaching, sermonizing soap opera Giant

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  78. Anon87 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why not just face it, CGI everything and call it what it is…..a cartoon. The Roger Rabbit Ratio of real-to-cgi is already past 50% in a lot of movies so just go 100%. Maybe that will allow real films to come back.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
  79. @Anon87

    The original concept, as set forth by the, ahem, inimitable Don Lancaster:

    The Digital Bogey
    With one or two more memory iterations, we will soon have terabyte storage routinely and cheaply available. So, computers of human brain capability are virtually certain to show up in the next few years. Which can lead us to the Digital Bogey. The next step beyond nonlinear editing.Given enough memory, there is no reason at all why everything in a movie cannot be an alterable data base. A cyberthespian’s personna could get programmed at both the micro and macro levels. There would be no difference at all between actors, extras, props, vehicles, animation, and special effects.

    Each would end up as alterable numbers in a humongously large data base.All of which means that an individual working at home will soon be able to produce an entertainment experience comparable to a first-run movie at a total cost of $45 or so.

    Which will be a one million to one reduction of the costs of producing entertainment. Distribution, of course, would be via Internet IV. And on library teracubes, each of which will hold a decade’s worth of movies.All of which should profoundly affect the smog levels in the LA basin. All types of LA smog. No more grips or gaffers or foleys. Or any third assistant makeup supervisor safety director best boys.Even more profound, we should be able to throw all of the original Bogey movies at the computer and then have it run off dozens of new ones. I can hardly wait.There’s bound to be a buck in here somewhere.

    More on the Digital Bogey in HACK71.PDF.

    Of course, $45 won’t get an old Army picture of your grandpa Photoshopped into recognizability by a college student anymore, but you get the idea.

    https://www.tinaja.com/whtnu19.shtml#d11.06.19

    • Replies: @Anon87
  80. @Alden

    He isn’t popular among gay men and wasn’t particularly boyish.

  81. Anon87 says:
    @donvonburg

    How long before fully AI created movies are made? There are early AI paintings (which so far look fairly nightmarish) and aren’t some newspaper articles AI at this point (local interest or game recaps)?

    In 20 years AI will crap out a Star Wars script (woke algorithm fully enabled), completely render it in CGI, maybe “deepfake” Cushing again or a now dead Harrison Ford into it, all on a high end liquid cooled PC in a few hours. Cost? A few hundred bucks. Worldwide revenue of between $500M and $1B. DisneyHuluNetflix+ shareholders rejoice!

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