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From the New York Times opinion page:

Jack Merritt Died in the London Bridge Attack. Don’t Forget What He Stood For.
Remembering a life cut short.

By Emma Goldberg
Ms. Goldberg is a researcher for the editorial board.

Dec. 1, 2019

I remember a morning of unadulterated goodness. I’d come to celebrate graduation at a local men’s prison. The inmates had spent the semester studying criminal justice with students from the University of Cambridge as part of a program called Learning Together. The men from the prison dressed up for the occasion, hair slicked back and shirts tucked in.

Jack Merritt, my classmate at Cambridge and a program participant, recited a poem he’d written on forgiveness and rehabilitation. I remember feeling surprised by his words, so unselfconsciously earnest. I’d known him mostly for his dry wit, his boyishly good looks and his reputation as a criminology class clown.

Jack, who was 25 and from Cambridge, was stabbed to death during a terrorist attack near London Bridge on Friday. The attacker, Usman Khan, had been convicted of terrorism offenses in 2012. He was released from prison last year. Just before the attack, Jack was in Fishmongers’ Hall, a building adjacent to the bridge, helping to lead a conference on prisoner rehabilitation, an alumni celebration for Learning Together. Mr. Khan, who was attending the conference, began his rampage as a creative writing workshop was wrapping up inside the hall, around 2 p.m.

The injustice of somebody murdered while organizing for criminal justice feels impossibly sharp. Jack was in a room of people, some on day release from prison, discussing possibilities for penal reform.

But the world is full of injustice, and young people denied opportunity. Jack understood that better than most.

The poor bastard’s Master’s thesis was entitled:

A Critical Analysis of Over-Representation of Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic Males Aged 18-21 in the British Prison System.

The Muslim terrorist’s other victim was Saskia Jones of Stratford-Upon-Avon:

Second London Bridge attack victim named as Saskia Jones, 23

Former Cambridge student was killed along with Jack Merritt, 25, in attack on Friday

Hannah Mays and agency

Sun 1 Dec 2019 11.26 EST

The second victim of the London Bridge terror attack has been named by the Metropolitan police as Saskia Jones, 23, a former Cambridge University student from Stratford-upon-Avon.

… Jones was named a day after Jack Merritt, 25, was identified by his father as the other person killed by Usman Khan in his knife attack at Fishmongers’ Hall on Friday. They had been attending an event to celebrate the fifth anniversary of Learning Together, a prison-based education project.

… Prof Loraine R Gelsthorpe, the director of the Institute of Criminology at Cambridge, where both victims had studied, paid tribute to them in a statement on Sunday. She said Saskia’s “warm disposition and extraordinary intellectual creativity was combined with a strong belief that people who have committed criminal offences should have opportunities for rehabilitation.

“Though she completed her MPhil in criminology in 2018, her determination to make an enduring and positive impact on society in everything she did led her to stay in contact with the Learning Together community. They valued her contributions enormously and were inspired by her determination to push towards the good.”

I wonder if any of the Cambridge dons who helped indoctrinate these naive young people feel even a twinge of guilt over their deaths?

Judging from this, probably not:

Professor Loraine Gelsthorpe
Institute of Criminology
Director of the Institute

Professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Director of the Centre for Community, Gender and Social Justice; Director of the Cambridge ESRC Doctoral Training Centre; Joint Convenor: CAMMIGRES (Cambridge Migration Research Network)

Fellow of Pembroke College.

Loraine Gelsthorpe is Professor of Criminology & Criminal Justice at the Institute of Criminology, University of Cambridge. And a Fellow and Tutor for Graduate Affairs at Pembroke College. She is also Director of the Institute, Director of Graduate Education for the Institute, and Director of a research centre within also: the Centre for Community, Gender and Social Justice. Beyond this she is Co-convenor of the University wide multi-disciplinary Cambridge Migration Research Network (CAMMIGRES). She also sits on various University Committees including the General Board Education Committee and the Board of Graduate Studies. Loraine has wide interests in the links between criminal justice and social justice, looking at race, gender and social exclusion, women and sentencing, and at the effectiveness of youth and community penalties in particular.

Perhaps it’s not a coincidence that our new religion of Diversity, Inclusion, Equity spells DIE.

 
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  1. bgates says:

    But what really hurts….

  2. He was right. It is similar to the problem of not enough whites in some school systems to make them good enough to serve minorities, there is a need for more whites in the prison system to make it a better experience for minorities. Obviously, the definition of hate crimes needs to be expanded to include thought crimes, too, whether vocalized or not. Noticing should also be a crime.

  3. Anyone who works in criminology should know that it is necessary to taken environmental precautions when working with young thugs who are convicted felons. At the least, the conference at which the deceased was teaching should have had TSA type security to make sure no one brought in weapons or contraband, which would have been in breach of the probationary status of many of the participants.

    The fact that the deceased assassin knew in advance that he could bring lethal weapons into the building says it all.

    The sad thing about this is that lessons will not have been learned.

  4. trelane says:

    Good thesis for a complete loser.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  5. BenKenobi says:

    began his rampage as a creative writing workshop was wrapping up

    Literary criticism gone wrong?

  6. @Richard of Fallbrook

    That dude was the strong. His class thinks they still are. May eventually see a changing of the guard but this kind of shit is just their peacock tail.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  7. northeast says:

    “Jack Merritt Syndrome”. A condition that consists of anti-Western self-loathing with a pinch of Dhimmitude.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Desiderius
  8. A Critical Analysis of Over-Representation of Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic Males Aged 18-21 in the British Prison System.

    This would make a good book-length satirical parable. A man is killed by the very society he helped build. Call it The Rise of the Merrittocracy.

  9. Just like Mollie Tibbets, this shows how deranged and suicidal white liberals are.

    His father said: “We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing even more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary”

    Their own children get murdered by invaders and they shrug. These are also the people who advocate for abortion “rights”, just saying.

    So, when you count on logic and say “oh, haha, most whites just haven’t woken up yet ;)”, remember these people. They are not logical. They will not wake up. And they will sacrifice you and your family at the altar of white guilt.

  10. Flip says:

    This is called Amy Biehl syndrome.

    One of the things I admire about Jews is that they are into justice rather than compassion and forgiveness when they are wronged. None of this turn the other cheek stuff.

  11. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve,

    Unfortunately Merritt is both a “poor bastard” and a useful idiot!

    OT. In NYC and NY State come January First 2020 there will a dramatic loosening of bail requirements in particular and witness protection in general. It’s hard to believe that even in the far distant future there will ever be a Giuliani-like savior!

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @I, Libertine
    , @nymom
  12. The father’s response reads like an alt right parody.

  13. The injustice of somebody murdered while organizing for criminal justice feels impossibly sharp. Jack was in a room of people, some on day release from prison, discussing possibilities for penal reform.

    But the world is full of injustice, and young people denied opportunity. Jack understood that better than most.

    Man, the people at the New York Times are idiots. The operative concept here is “irony” not “injustice.” But the best the NYT brain trust can come up with is to say that the victims and perpetrators of crime are all just equal partners in the vague phenomenon of “injustice.” (Not to mention talking about the “sharp” injustice of a stabbing).

    The woke writing at the NYT is getting dumber in real time.

    • Replies: @jon
    , @International Jew
  14. SFG says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Too much money in the city. Eventually the pendulum will swing back.

    My money would be on a white or nearly so Hispanic–‘diverse’ enough to build a coalition but allied to the middle classes.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @HammerJack
  15. @Jonathan Mason

    The fact that the deceased assassin knew in advance that he could bring lethal weapons into the building says it all.

    When guns were legal, the bobbies didn’t carry them. Now that they’re outlawed:

    “Khan was shot at the scene by City of London Police and died there.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usman_Khan_(militant)

    Saskia, for what it’s worth, is a Dutch name of uncertain derivation. It may have come, via a metathetic (i.e., dyslectic) process, from “Saxon”. It was the name of Rembrandt’s wife.

  16. @northeast

    Don’t forget the poor bastard was on the career fast-track precisely because of what you describe. Ethnomasochism pays.

    • Replies: @Bigdicknick
  17. Nice cover page.

    The next 500 pages are “all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  18. Random bot [AKA "Random botnot"] says:

    You’d think this would Merritt a Critical Analysis Regarding Overrepresentation of Certain Groups Among Young Violent Offenders.

  19. Altai says:

    Given how diverse London is, why is there no comment on both of his victims being Britons?

    Steve missed the pair of tweets from the victims father.

  20. Where were they stabbed? Were these actual bleeding-heart liberals?

    Sorry.

    Also was his father’s statement abridged and did he also plead that nobody make jokes?

    I am very sorry.

    • LOL: Rosie
  21. @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, carrying a knife into a conference and using it to hack two of your patrons to death certainly would seem “in breach of the probationary status of many of the participants.” Maybe the participants should have received a sternly-worded admonition beforehand!

    I hope you’re not just now finding out that Britain is an ideologically-crazed regime that will gladly sacrifice its own children to the false god Equality. If you are, then this is the future you chose.

    “In breach of the probationary status of many of the participants” – that should go on their tombstones .

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  22. anon[365] • Disclaimer says:

    Emma Goldberg, globalists and the Max boots of the world don’t care or worry about some anglo-saxons being killed – in fact knocking out some cambridge graduates is probably a plus.

  23. Perhaps it’s not a coincidence that our new religion of Diversity, Inclusion, Equity spells DIE.

    fwiw, it also spells Eid, and IED.

  24. Dan Hayes says:
    @SFG

    SFG:

    For this to occur there must first be a degentrification of Williamsburg and other SJW pest holes!

  25. Fair play to them; they walked the talk, and paid the price.

    The liberal NGO class usually make grand moral gestures and then let happless working class folk pick up the tab.

    The body of the guy who did this will be shipped back to Mirpur, where, like the 7th of July 2005 bombers, he will be honoured as a martyr. And the rest of the Mirpuri villagers will conclude that the English are soft and incapable of defending their homeland.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  26. BenKenobi says:
    @Desiderius

    “The weariness of the cell is the vigour of the organism. Do you die when you clip your fingernails, Winston?”

    • Replies: @Lurker
  27. “The inmates had spent the semester studying criminal justice”

    Why on earth were they studying “criminal justice”? Why weren’t they, y’know, learning to code? Or at least doing auto shop, or anything at all to keep them out of trouble once they get out?

    “somebody murdered while organizing for criminal justice”

    The operational definition of “criminal justice” here seems to be the unspoken assumption that “criminals” are wronged whenever they are exposed to “justice”.

    Here’s a society. Perhaps they’d like to bounce it.

    • Replies: @Loosely Speaking
  28. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Saskia, for what it’s worth, is a Dutch name of uncertain derivation. It may have come, via a metathetic (i.e., dyslectic) process, from “Saxon”. It was the name of Rembrandt’s wife.

    Ah, I had assumed it was a black chick with a ghetto name. Steve is getting lazy and forgot the race-identifying headshot inset in his post.

  29. Given the circumstances, one must have a heart of stone not to laugh at the title of that dissertation.

  30. syonredux says:

    Kipling, “The Gods of the Copybook Headings”

    AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
    I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
    Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

    We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
    That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
    But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
    So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

    We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
    Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
    But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
    That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

    With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
    They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
    They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
    So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

    When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

    On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
    (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

    In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
    By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
    But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

    Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
    And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
    That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

    As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
    There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
    That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
    And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

    And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
    When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
    As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
    The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

  31. @PiltdownMan

    You forgot one: it also spells IDE, as in “Ides of March”.

  32. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    My prayer:

    When Die-versity strikes, please Lord, let it strike those who asked for it, not those who did not.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  33. @Dan Hayes

    Re: your OT.

    This is the work of George Soros, who has decided that supporting the looniest of leftists for down-ballot and local political candidates like district attorney or state attorney general gives him the most bang for the buck. Those are the races where name recognition is the deciding factor, and his money can by plenty of that in the form of TV ads.

    That’s why we have the absurd Larry Krassner, a true danger to the law-abiding people of Philadelphia, as that town’s DA. See also Kim Foxx, the Cook County attorney who interfered with the exposure of the Jussie Smollett hoax.

    Does anybody know why George Soros wants to gut our criminal justice system?

  34. Anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50617991

    Mr Rozenberg described him as “a fine young man, dedicated to improving people’s lives”.

    Rapper Dave said Mr Merritt was “the best guy” and the news of his death was “one of the most painful things”.

    Dave’s Mercury Prize-winning album was inspired by rehabilitation therapy his brother Christopher Omoregie has received while serving a life sentence for murder.

    The Streatham-born rapper said Mr Merritt had “dedicated his life to helping others” and it was “genuinely an honour to have met someone like you”.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49754224

    “Black is pain, black is joy, black is evident,” Dave rapped. “It’s working twice as hard as the people you know you’re better than.”

    When it was played on BBC Radio 1, the song provoked complaints from a small minority of listeners who said it was “racist against white people”.

    • Replies: @Bugg
  35. istevefan says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Just like Mollie Tibbets, this shows how deranged and suicidal white liberals are.

    They’re as sick in their own way as are downtrodden Whites who are on opioids.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  36. “Muslims are only 1% of the population of the UK, but 100% of people shot by police for murdering me are Muslim”

  37. @Reg Cæsar

    According to wikipedia:

    “… Armed City of London Police arrived a short time later and surrounded the attacker, who was being held down by a man. They pulled this person away to provide a clear shot, before firing twice.[14][12] Khan died at the scene.”

    Is executing captured terrorists on the spot now standard practice in England?

  38. Anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:

    The prison rehabilitation event organizers, that wanted students fraternizing with criminals, learningtogethernetwork.co.uk, have taken their site down, but this is still in Google cache:

    … a course that aimed to inspire and capacitate bright young people from disadvantaged backgrounds to join our universities.

    Amy and Ruth were struck by some of the punitive attitudes that some of their young students had about social justice. They saw in them the same potential they saw in so many of the people they met in prisons as part of their research. They became excited about what might happen if the access course students and the people they met in prison had the chance to study together, and to think about big ideas together, as equals. When they read some of the research about what makes learning transformative, Amy and Ruth became even more excited about how powerfully it coincided with the capacities and connections that criminological research tells us people need to move away from crime and build meaningful and good lives.

  39. @bgates

    So, it wasn’t murder – it was suicide by social theory. Goodbye, Europe. America’s next.

    • Replies: @inselaffen
  40. songbird says:

    Regarding the father’s response – a white father forgiving the nonwhite killer of his child. It seems like woke behavior, but is the racial angle just noise? Might this rather be an old phenomenon?

    Could this be related to something Jared Diamond talked about – restorative justice? The idea that you prevent a feud, by getting the killer’s clan to pay off your clan with so many goats rather than by killing the killer, and risking retribution.

    In terms of evolutionary psychology, are these people really virtue-signaling (ie. cucking), or are they, at least on the level of instinct, trying to avoid a feud from killing more people with their DNA? (By having a very passive response.)

    • Replies: @Rouetheday
    , @Paco Wové
    , @Anon
  41. Ragno says:

    By morning it’ll be 72 hours since the murders – sufficient time for Usman Khan to be conferred Just Another Victim status (of an Oppressive System, of course).

    Be aware that, as usual, come Atrocity + 72 hours, the new Monsters In Our Midst will be any Caucasian who spends a little too much time noticing who did what, and why, and what should be done about it. (Unless the Caucasian in question has blue hair, or one sideburn shaved off, or a skull bandana pulled up over their mouths, or valid press credentials.) Everyone else can expect the now-standard police interview, or Two Minutes Hate outright.

  42. Alden says:

    All I can say is Ha Ha.

  43. MEH 0910 says:

  44. @syonredux

    From the Kipling poem that syonredux quoted:

    (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children…

    Kipling was a bloody-minded imperialist.

    But he did have a way with words and a significant amount of common sense. Maybe everyone back then had more common sense than most people today.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
  45. @James B. Shearer

    Is executing captured terrorists on the spot now standard practice in England?

    It is standard practice everywhere in the world, I assume, if the captured terrorist appears to be wearing a suicide bomb vest.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  46. J.Ross says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Pooh chambered another round in his Martini-Henry. “Oh bother,” he said.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob, Lurker
  47. Alfa158 says:

    After reading the background of the victims here, I don’t seem to be as bothered about what happened to them.
    Does that make me a bad person? And if it does, does that mean we actually need more bad people on our side?

    • Replies: @justdesserts
  48. Dan Hayes says:
    @James B. Shearer

    James B. Shearer:

    This behavior is entirely consonant with the long-term actions of the British state. Witness the execution of the turnstile jumper mistaken for a terrorist and the 1980 SAS terrorist executions at the Iranian Embassy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  49. @James B. Shearer

    Is executing captured terrorists on the spot now standard practice in England?

    I would hope so. Saves a lot of time later on.

  50. Dave3 says:

    Over the next 100 years white liberals will go extinct or decline so drastically in number as to become politically and economically irrelevant. Tens of millions will die without issue, stabbed in the streets or pillowed in nursing homes by their beloved diversity.

    All surviving whites will have a patriarchal attitude toward women, ensuring a high birth rate, and a shoot-on-sight attitude toward diversity. They will cling to their remaining territories as ferociously as the North Sentinelese, for much the same reasons.

    • LOL: IHTG
  51. jon says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    These are also the people who advocate for abortion “rights”, just saying.

    You guys really gotta give the abortion thing a rest.

    • Agree: Pat Kittle
  52. jon says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    The operative concept here is “irony” not “injustice.”

    Or karma.

  53. @Cagey Beast

    Career fast track to what ? Adjunct professor ? I do agree that wokeness pays relative to conservatism , but many of the functionaries of wokeness work pretty hard to attain low paying jobs

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  54. Lurker says:
    @James B. Shearer

    It is when you believe they are wired to detonate.

  55. Lurker says:

    Jack Merritt’s Twitter:

    (Dad) David Merritt’s Twitter:

    One would be hard put to find two greater virtue signalling NPC cucks on God’s green earth. So much so that I have to wonder if there is some kind of 5D chess trolling going on.

  56. Anonymous[567] • Disclaimer says:

    Did Jack include a section on recidivism in his paper?

  57. @I, Libertine

    The more disorder, the more Soros will be able to steal from corrupt governments.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  58. @Dave3

    Well, that’s certainly possible.

    On the surface, I am “white” – and of British Isles descent. Yet, in terms of mindset, I am not related to the Jack Merritt types of people at all. I think white liberals should have a bright blue skin colour so it’s easier to differentiate. Clearly there are at least two sub-groups which evolved among British Isles peoples.

    I, and many on the Dissident Right – are actually more like the Mirpuris than we are like Jack Merritt. Tribal, nasty at times, and serious. You are right – we are patriarchal, and have a hardened attitude against diversity.

    I wonder if, over centuries, the “pacifist” and “co-operative” gene gained an edge over the “tribal” and “warrior” gene in the cold and harsh Northwestern Europe. Working together was a much better strategy in which all can survive. This would explain why the “leftist” faction seems to have a slight to substantial edge over the “tribal” faction of NE Euros. However, it does appear that “our” side of the genetic pool may be poised or a dramatic comeback in the coming centuries – if the loony liberals don’t kill us all (and themselves) first.

    • Replies: @Brown Boiii
    , @Dave3
  59. Bugg says:
    @Anonymous

    As a parent, I feel for Mr. Merritt. But also…he asked for it.

  60. @jon

    I’m actually not anti-abortion. However, it is clearly a pathological issue among white leftists when they start to normalize and promote abortions over a healthy nuclear family structure. It is about the hatred of life for them.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  61. Peterike says:

    Two more Poetic Justice Warriors.

  62. Art Deco says:

    What he stood for is the proposition that people should not be held accountable if they’re located in one of the mascot groups favored by people like Jack Merritt.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  63. @jon

    You guys really gotta give the abortion thing a rest.

    So you’re with Morgentaler?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Morgentaler

    The race realists of 100-150 years ago took exception to wiping out the next generation. And hedonism wasn’t even the justification it is now.

    There have been enough abortions in the US since 1970 to populate Canada and Australia. There have been nearly enough in Canada since 1988 to populate New Zealand.

    Fetal remains after 1988 would constitute the fifth-largest province. But that’s better than being the largest state, as in the US.

  64. @Lurker

    Muslims are just British people with better kebabs !

  65. Dan Hayes says:
    @I, Libertine

    I, Libertine:

    Soros and his coconspirators have reached a new level of political depravity in New York State where they have taken control of its legislatures and passed laws essentially emasculating law enforcement. This occurred when relatively sane Democratic legislators where purged and replaced with SJW crazies. Of course Fredo Cuomo our craven governor cheered on these Robespierres. Fredo is now carrying out what Governor Mario his father would have liked to have done but was unable to do in a more politically sane time.

  66. Alden says:

    The comments after the NYTimes article by Goldberg are comical. They’re worse than David Merritt’s tweet. Just a long sad dirge of society must do more to help these poor unfortunate criminals.

    Same old same old for the last 60 years.

  67. @PiltdownMan

    “It is standard practice everywhere in the world, I assume, if the captured terrorist appears to be wearing a suicide bomb vest.”

    Okay, I missed the part about the fake suicide vest. From wikipedia:

    “… Khan, wearing a fake suicide vest, threatened to blow up the hall. …”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  68. Ed says:

    Sad and evidently he got it from his father who proclaims to be a liberal atheist . He also slammed Johnson for daring to suggest that dangerous criminals shouldn’t be automatically released.

  69. @Flip

    Revenge is not the same thing as justice.

    Sometimes revenge is part of justice.

    Sometimes it is not.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  70. @Bigdicknick

    On the fast track to a political career.

  71. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    His father said: “We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary”

    According to https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50621581

    Ms Jones’ family said their daughter, from Stratford-upon-Avon in Warwickshire, had a “great passion” for supporting victims of criminal justice.

    Not “victims of crime”, but “victims of criminal justice”. When you genuinely believe that society is at fault, then the criminal becomes the victim, and the criminal’s victim is a kind of collateral damage.

    Some people are unteachable.

    When these include the families of the victims, they will certainly also include the academics who are no less committed to being “woke”. They also receive substantial sums of public money for their “work”.

    • Replies: @a reader
  72. Matra says:
    @Lurker

    He tweeted a couple of months ago complaining about older Brexiter voters denying his generation their European future.

    • Replies: @Bernie
  73. Judging by his Twitter feed, Merritt was a real BBC enthusiast.

  74. @James B. Shearer

    In retrospect, if Khan’s ‘suicide vest’ was real, the cops could have held back and chased him into the nearby London Grind coffee bar, whereupon the detonation would be a fitting finale to a sped-up CCTV “Yakety Sax” blooper clip. Missed opportunity all around. 🙁

  75. @Lurker

    What kind of person goes on a tweeting rampage right after their son is killed? This Merritt guy’s been tweeting up a storm since the attack, even retweeting some nonsense about Russia trying to hack Ohio elections. I would think he’d be busy planning a funeral, comforting friends and relatives, etc. Nope. The self-described “left-leaning atheist” has bigger fish to fry.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • LOL: LondonBob
  76. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Each race should be able to set their own abortion policies. If blacks, asians or steezers want unlimited, restricted or zero abortion they should be able to set the policy they prefer. There is a mechanism for that and it is called “separate countries”. Who’d have thunk?

    My preference for whites, the only group for which I am qualified to even have an opinion is that abortion is okay in cases of Todd Akin ‘legitimate rape’, incest, or a defective fetus but otherwise should be very restricted. I’d give every woman a one time Billy Martin before a certain stage of gestation but after that ONLY for damn good reason and if for any reason you get to three, mandatory permanent sterilization.

    This is not, repeat NOT based on the rights of the fetus for to me the fetus is not a person, at least not until it could live on its own. Even the Bible does not explicitly say it is. It is based on the rights of society and the race and the species.

    Prolifers explode when I suggest after three abortions a woman should be sterilized. Holy rollers explode when I suggest three strikes and you’re out for marriage: get a divorce or anullment three times and you never marry again. Free marketeers explode when I suggest three strikes and you are out for being a corporate officer: three companies on your watch go bankrupt and you may never be a corporate office holder again. In each case they feel that to restrict it is to okay it up until then and divorce and abortion are NEVER okay. (The same people NEVER object when entrepreneurs go tits up on others’ money and do it again. Wassup??)

    As Big LMM said to the cell phone videographers in Dubai: You are all a bunch of cunts. Go fuck yourselves.

    Thankyouverymuch.

    • Replies: @Warner
    , @Anonymous
  77. anon[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @I, Libertine

    Does anybody know why George Soros wants to gut our criminal justice system?

    What are the results so far? It is reasonable to assume he is getting what he paid for.

  78. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @James B. Shearer

    They’d like to do this:

    It does have a certain appeal. It’s a ripoff of the ‘homer’ fired by the Sandman’s Gun in Logan’s Run, of course, down to the self destruct feature if an unauthorized user attempts to fire it.

  79. indocon says:
    @Dan Hayes

    If you are in a job in New York that you can’t find suitable employment elsewhere, stay put until you save enough for retirement, then camp out for Florida, North Carolina, or any other place that needs reinforcement. If you can’t find suitable employment elsewhere, get out now, it’s as simple.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  80. Andy says:

    there’s something very ironic in someone who believed that criminals should be released from jail being killed by a criminal just released from jailed

  81. indocon says:

    Poor Jack looks like second coming of Molly Tibbett, the white girl killed while jogging through cornfields of Iowa. I believe her mom or maybe aunt went on TV denouncing Trump for misrepresenting the facts behind her murder.

    White liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

  82. @MEH 0910

    As Robert Hays might have noted ” I guess irony can be pretty ironic “.

  83. You do have to wonder whether this terrorist didn’t target these people at this conference precisely to show how weak the West is, and how strong Islam is.

    The idea that these individuals were basically exposing their bellies to Islamic terrorists demonstrates the decadence of the West and its complete incapacity to resist Islam.

    I’m sure it would be utterly inconceivable to a Muslim that any Muslim would ever behave as did these Brits in like circumstances — which, of course, would be true.

    I doubt though that the terrorist would have anticipated the reaction of their friends and family.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
  84. Ed says:

    It’s also interesting that the victims are idealistic college students and the heroes that stopped him are convicts or from the working class.

  85. MattinLA says:

    Good riddance to had rubbish, times three.

  86. Dansereau says:

    From a Fox article:

    ‘They said Merritt “died doing what he loved, surrounded by people he loved and who loved him.”‘

    Doing what he loved? Getting stabbed to death by the kind of person he advocated for?

  87. @Dan Hayes

    …and passed laws essentially emasculating law enforcement.

    Let me guess… minor violations of firearms licensing laws are an exception to this.

  88. @candid_observer

    If a Mirpuri killed a different ethnicity in pakistan (cant rememebr them), the response would be brutal and bloodthirsty violence, probably killing all of the murderers family.

    This is what keeps them in line.

    The response of the cucked British goodwhites is so laughable to them they probably don’t even know how to interpret it. The British goodwhites are essentially telling them “kill me, and take all my stuff”. Just simple cultural differences. I am more like Mirpuris in my mindset – it’s the goodwhites who are the lunatics here.

    It’s not necessarily even in bad will from the pakies. They’re just hardwired to pounce when somebody is weak, it’s a matter of survival. The britishers stupidity is the problem here….

    • Replies: @Andy
    , @Anonymous
  89. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Saying you’re like Mirpuris doesn’t help the rednecks are cousin fuckers stereotype..

  90. @I, Libertine

    Libertine,
    Yes I do.
    And so do you.

    Regards,
    Harry

  91. Religion of peace strikes again! This is why I go into spidey sense mode whenever I come across suspicious-looking vibrants in London (which happens a lot but less than you’d think if you stay within certain areas of the city).

    I would say “around a Paki, always carry”, but we’re not allowed to carry anything so…

  92. Mr. Anon says:

    Liberalism is a Death Cult.

  93. @Ed

    Whom the formerly alive, officially enriched Mr. and Mrs. Cambridge would have no doubt chided as deplorables while they basked in the web of nepotism and blatant class-based discrimination that keeps people “in their proper place” in England, which got them these cushy degrees and jobs. I’m not happy they died in agony but I’m not shedding tears either. They did sort of ask for it.

    • Replies: @Loosely Speaking
  94. Anonymous[370] • Disclaimer says:

    Many people have the urge to “deprogram” or “help” or “save” or “rescue” these lunatic Eloi. But these Eloi are not slaves… they are highly motivated status seekers.

    Slave psychology is difficult enough to deprogram. But status seeking psychology cannot be deprogrammed. The ferocious clawing toward higher social status is all-important, all-consuming for a certain type of insecure individual. They are filling a void.

    If you try to “save” them they will lash out with homicidal fury.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  95. @northeast

    He didn’t hate himself. He hated the West in order to feed his own self-regard and that of TPTB. His milieu see themselves as post-Western. It’s why they’re so desperate to import/integrate so many non-Westerners.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @northeast
  96. Mr. Anon says:
    @flyingtiger

    The more disorder, the more Soros will be able to steal from corrupt governments.

    It is a naive mistake to think that people like Soros (or Paul Singer, or the Koch Brothers, etc.) are in it for the money. They have more money than they could ever spend on themselves and their entire family. They were in business for the money. They made it. They’ve already got money. With that money, they hope to change the World – to impose their will upon it. That is what they are in it for. To refashion the World in their own image. It is not about money.

  97. @Ed

    They’re not idealistic. They’re the product of the cynical cum nihilistic abandonment of the very possibility of ideals at all.

  98. @Anonymous

    Amy and Ruth were struck by some of the punitive attitudes that some of their young students had about social justice.

    Google reveals a lot of material about the “Learning Together” network and its organisers. Their own words do not show them in a good light. The simple-mindedness of the main website is so shocking that it is no surprise it has been taken down.

    Off-site material remains, including this puff piece produced by the University:

    The “Institute of Criminology” overlaps with the “Centre for Community, Gender and Social Justice”. The whole situation is hard to distinguish from a right-wing parody.

    It is unlikely that “Amy” and “Ruth” will change their minds about “social justice” and “punitive attitudes”. One of them co-authored a book chapter on “Taking Risks in Research with ‘the Risky’”, which will be closely examined if the University is sued for its liability in organising the event in London.

    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137379405_16

    The page has a DOI at the bottom, which can be used to obtain a copy of the chapter from Sci-Hub.

    Amy and Ruth’s published work on “Learning Together” appeared in “Prison Service Journal”:

    https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/sites/crimeandjustice.org.uk/files/PSJ%20225%20May%202016.pdf

    The photos in the “Learning Together” newsletter for 2019 (now offline) showed that nearly all the students who volunteered to “learn” in men’s prisons were women. The project basically brought together male prisoners and young women of about 20. Who knows whether these daughters of the middle classes were earnestly working towards a vision of social justice, or whether they simply got a thrill from being in the company of dangerous men. Think Symbionese Liberation Army, but with generous public funding.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Dumbo
  99. Mr. Anon says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    His father said: “We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing even more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary”

    Their own children get murdered by invaders and they shrug. These are also the people who advocate for abortion “rights”, just saying.

    I have no respect for these people. None. I say to them: You are bad parents. You don’t care about your children, and you never did. If you did, you would be outraged at what happened to them. You would want revenge. You would demand justice. And you would never forgive those who robbed you of your own children. Being as forgiving as they are is an insult to thier slaughtered loved-ones.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Danindc
  100. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    No it’s not. It’s about

    (1) controlling the black population

    (2) cutting down on the competition

    No aborted babies are growing up to get into Harvard ahead of Hayden and Emma.

  101. Dave3 says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Look how selfless and trusting of strangers the Eskimos are, even compared to Swedes. No need to be constantly on guard when the climate kills off the riff-raff for you. For millennia, Nordics lived in an environment of limited mobility and low population density, meaning that every stranger you met was closely related to you. Genetic diversity increased only slightly as the population grew into millions without immigration. Unlike Hungarians, who had to fight off wave after wave of Turkish invaders and slavers, Swedes never acquired an instinctive distaste for other races; they naively assume that any generosity bestowed on a stranger will be accepted with gratitude and reciprocity.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
  102. @Reg Cæsar

    Without abortion, the black population would balloon. Do you want that to happen?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  103. Kylie says:

    It couldn’t have happened to two more deserving people. Even better, apparently they both died without issue.

  104. Khan should have been dispensed with ages ago.

    But then he went and did this.

    It’s a tough call.

    • LOL: jon, Redneck farmer
  105. @Jonathan Mason

    What’s the status of Criminology in the Current Year? Serious question.

    Back in the 80s or so, I had the impression that it was an objective data-driven field that attracted law enforcement types with an academic bent.

    Now I imagine it’s gone the way of anthropology and sociology, and has been captured by SJWs. That seems to be the fate of all academic disciplines over time.

  106. @Hypnotoad666

    Yes, irony.

    What I don’t get is, what was the knifeman doing there? Was he one of those invited ex-cons? Did he come on his own, having developed an intellectual interest in criminology? Did he come on his own looking to settle a score with someone?

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Alden
  107. @songbird

    Rather than a pack of goats, my idea of ‘restorative justice’ in this case would be for Mr. Khan’s entire extended family to be sent back to Pakistan.

  108. @Mr. Anon

    Being as forgiving as they are is an insult to their slaughtered loved-ones.

    I can see why a victim’s family might not want the death penalty for a perp. Or might even forgive him years later if he shows remorse.

    But immediately excusing the killer from any moral blame shows no respect for your own child’s life, or the lives of other victims. Wokeness is truly a perverted religion.

    • Agree: Houston 1992
    • Replies: @Please help
  109. northeast says:
    @Desiderius

    Self-loathing is an inescapable component of the spiritual illness that plagues the Western world. You don’t get to the place we find ourselves in without it.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  110. anon[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The photos in the “Learning Together” newsletter for 2019 (now offline) showed that nearly all the students who volunteered to “learn” in men’s prisons were women. The project basically brought together male prisoners and young women of about 20.

    Ayup. Hypergamy in action, yet again. Dark Triad is a real thing.

  111. Andy says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    “Islam is right about justice” would be another nice slogan to drive the left mad

  112. @Cagey Beast

    Black wants out of the streets
    Yellow wants the country
    Red wants the country back
    And white wants out of this world
    Sing – sing to the sky
    I want to ride the tiger

  113. @trelane

    With quotation marks around “Over-Representation”, it might have been my thesis.

  114. @International Jew

    All good questions. And why are the police already calling it “terrorism”? How do we know he didn’t have a personal grudge, or just a derranged desire to commit “suicide by cop?”

    I guess Khan’s prior conviction for a terror offense is a big clue. But still. A real reporter would ask these factual questions. Instead, the NYT immediately goes into ideological spin mode — i.e., whatever the facts are, don’t let them cast doubt on the social justice credo.

  115. @Kylie

    It couldn’t have happened to two more deserving people. Even better, apparently they both died without issue.

    The Darwin Awards are made to people who have improved the quality of the human gene pool by dying from their own foolishness before they have reproduced. The nomination of Merritt and Jones would probably be considered to be in poor taste.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  116. @PhysicistDave

    You probably think Kipling’s ‘The White Man’s Burden’ was a defense of imperialism.

    • Replies: @reactionry
    , @PhysicistDave
  117. @northeast

    You couldn’t be more wrong.

    These people don’t loathe themselves. They loathe you.

  118. jon says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    There have been enough abortions in the US since 1970 to populate Canada and Australia.

    Imagine America with additional 65 million people – and this 65 million would be disproportionately poor, minority, raised by single moms, etc. Sounds great!

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    , @Reg Cæsar
  119. jon says:
    @Bragadocious

    even retweeting some nonsense about Russia trying to hack Ohio elections

    That is beyond comprehension – son was just murdered, but there is a regional election in a foreign country that needs my tweet.

  120. @jon

    Imagine America with additional 65 million people – and this 65 million would be disproportionately poor, minority, raised by single moms, etc. Sounds great!

    A story that is really a private one, but one that I’m still curious about, is that of Kamala Harris’ sister, Maya Harris, who is also her campaign manager.

    Maya Harris was a teenage mother, giving birth at age 17 to her daughter Meena. Both Kamala Harris and Maya Harris were raised, for all practical purposes by their mom, who was single after Donald Harris was away after Maya was born.

    But Maya Harris, despite the considerable handicap of being a mother at 17, went on to graduate from Berkeley, and Stanford Law School. And the baby,her daughter, Meena, went to Stanford and Harvard Law school.

    I wonder how they all managed.

    • Replies: @Alden
  121. @Altai

    It looks like the terrorist did Britain a favor from a eugenic standpoint with Mr. Merritt.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  122. black sea says:

    I remember a morning of unadulterated goodness.

    This wouldn’t even pass muster as the first sentence of a breakfast cereal ad.

    • LOL: ben tillman
  123. northeast says:
    @Desiderius

    Of course, they loathe me & you. They loathe their children like this dunce of a father David Merritt who is on-line defending his son’s killers. He loathes himself otherwise he would not debase his son’s reputation.

    The issues facing the West involves self-hating leftists. It’s a mental defect or a spiritual one if you will, but it’s fundamental to understanding the psychology of the collapse of Western values.

    • Agree: Houston 1992
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  124. @jon

    You’re assuming those 65 million would have been conceived in the first place.

    The total number of births in the US dropped yearly from 1960-75, then picked up again. We’re back to the four million annually we had in the Eisenhower-Kennedy years. The number of abortions exploded in the 1970s (unless you believe feminist propaganda).

    People were a lot more careful before the curette replaced the cost hanger. Elective abortion was supposed to end bastardy. Another broken promise.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Lot
    , @jon
  125. I work a 5 to 10 minute walk from where the attack happened and was in the area 45 minutes before. We were getting updates after the attack happened and our building was locked down. Only got confirmation it was a terrorist attack at the end of the day, before then we assumed it was a minor gang-related assault.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  126. Alden says:
    @International Jew

    Khan was involved in Merritt’s Prisoners and criminology students Learning Together project for a while. This event was sponsored by the government, whatever the parole department is called. It’s called ReIntegration

    No metal detectors because it would be offensive to the criminals.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
  127. Alden says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Affirmative action. A black teen age single mother with an IQ if 110 is a pearl beyond price to the admissions committees. And imagine the over the top, outstanding, poor poor pitiful pathetic me essay she could write.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  128. Dumbo says:
    @Richard of Fallbrook

    Bullshit. Lots of people die randomly all the time. This was just a particularly ironical case, but there may be more behind it. As usual in those events there are many odd details, including the behavior of the parents.

  129. The poor bastard’s Master’s thesis was entitled:

    A Critical Analysis of Over-Representation of Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic Males Aged 18-21 in the British Prison System.

    Shame, the poor fellow was cut down in his prime before he could write the two follow-on theses about their over-representation in commission of serious crimes and the magnum opus where it is conceded they are overrepresented in society at large to the extent that society is imperiled.

  130. Dumbo says:

    Usually those who defend minority criminals hardly expect to become victims of them. It’s just talk; they are usually well protected in their bubbles. They surely didn’t live in a bad part of London.

    This was a rare case of cosmic irony, or poetic justice. May God have mercy on their souls.

  131. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The coat hanger rendered a lot more women permanently sterile, so my guess is that legal abortion might actually have been a wash or even meant more net children born. Unfortunately, it might have meant more children born to bad parents. It definitely made promiscuity more palatable to women with something to lose, e.g. middle class with the desire to remain respectable and provide for children they did have properly. The genuinely non-future-time oriented did what they wanted anyway, as did the very wealthy and the very poor.

    It definitely reduced the supply of desirable adoptable infants, although the number of women who kept their illegitimate babies and raised them as single mother had little to do with abortion either way.

  132. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed

    One of your heroes was a murderer serving a Life Sentence for murdering an intellectually disabled 15 year old girl.

    I suggest that he saw the opportunity to murder again, plus get a pat on the head, and took it.

  133. @Altai

    Your son’s the future, huh?

    Looks to me like he just got snuffed out by the future.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  134. @The Anti-Gnostic

    Maybe the participants should have received a sternly-worded admonition beforehand!

    Eh, one delivered after the fact is just as effective, really. Come to think of it though, either way is racist. Better just offer up your sons and daughters.

  135. @Altai

    The rection of Jack’s dad is exactly like the one of Maria Ladenburger’s dad – she got killed in Freiburg/Balck Forest ca. two years ago.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Cagey Beast
  136. @SFG

    Too much money in the city. Eventually the pendulum will swing back.

    Too much diversity in the city–and the country. This is one pendulum that’s never swinging back.

    P.S. “Middle classes” LOL

  137. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:

    All I can say is that the unfortunate victims of this outrage must have led very sheltered lives.

    They might have read a lot of propaganda nonsense about blacks, browns and vicious, violent criminals, but I strongly doubt they *really* *knew* such people and their ways.

    • Agree: Houston 1992
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  138. @Desiderius

    It’s not least a theological phenomenon, that we see happening here. It’s the Hippie-version of Christianity, which my true Hippie-friend Manfred (a carpenter…) used to put this way at the end of his letters: ONLY LOVE!

    Maria Ladenburger, looking and thinking pretty much like Saskia Jones, who got killed by an immigrant in Freiburg, was mourned publicly by her parents, defending her love of diversity and her enthusiastic engagement for the immigrants – in basically this Hippie-mindset of Christianity transformed in – ONLY LOVE. – It’s the Summerhill-kind of do no harm whatever – deeply childlike – mindset which represents Christian thought now. altogether. – and there is a theological gap, which no liberal Christian thinker is willing to fill. – Or am I overlooking somebody?

    • Agree: Abe
    • Replies: @miss marple
    , @Desiderius
  139. @Anonymous

    What is the psychological profile of someone who does not care about social status?

    I’m a deplorable. Call me racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, etc. I don’t care.

    I have little to lose. My social status is “dog s**t on the sidewalk” – or, on a good day, a fly buzzing around the dog s**t. I freely admit that I don’t have any money and I’m not getting any p***y. Feel free to mock and belittle me. Your respect and $1.28 would buy me a Big Gulp at 7-Eleven.

    I’m not invested in the system. I don’t have a family. I’m not in a stable (or unstable) relationship. I’m still young enough (and foolishly optimistic enough) that I can entertain the prospect of having kids in ten, fifteen, twenty years. But I’m nihilistic enough to wonder whether there’s any real point in having kids, or whether our species really deserves to survive, or whether life will even be worth living in the clown world of ten or twenty years hence.

    I feel no connection to society as a whole. The world owes me nothing and I owe the world nothing. I deserve nothing, but I don’t not deserve anything.

    In life, you take what you get and you get what you take. Nice guys usually finish last. Altruism is for chumps. (That being said, if you are a total selfish a**hole, you will pay for it eventually.)

    I’m a very cold person on an emotional level. I would even go so far as to say that I’m something of a sociopath. During social interactions, I am always aware that I am acting, that I am putting up a front, that I am suppressing a portion of my true self. I do have genuine emotions, but I have the ability to disassociate myself from them and analyze them dispassionately. I can regulate my emotional state to some extent. My ideal state of mind is a bland numbness, a benign indifference.

    My goal is to stop needing, wanting, or caring about anything. Sometimes I come close to achieving it.

    I’ve never really been in love. I have a low sex drive. I haven’t had many opportunities for romance and I haven’t taken most of the ones I have had. I do want a wife and kids, but I have resigned myself to the possibility that I might end up as a genetic dead end. Darwinian success is the ultimate goal of existence, but historically the vast majority of men have been losers. If I do fail to reproduce, I will be in good company.

    You might describe me as an incel, but, as I said, I’m not especially interested in sex. I never have been. At an early age, I concluded that my level of physical unattractiveness made me virtually unf**kable, and I resigned myself to the reality that I would have to gratify myself. Things have not changed all that much over the last two decades.

    I can rationalize my lack of success by pointing out that sex is merely a biological function designed to perpetuate the species, that men and women are programmed to seek out desirable mates, and that for a number of reasons I am not a particularly attractive candidate.

    Due to various factors, my SMV is rather low. Some of these factors are beyond my control; most are not. I can be faulted for not doing enough to correct my various flaws. If I need to blame anyone, I can blame myself. But I see little point in doing so.

    Things are the way they are. Maybe they’ll get better; maybe they won’t. There’s no point in crying or whining about it.

    Truthfully, I find most social interaction extremely tedious. I could learn Game, but the prospect of enduring interminable mind-numbing patter with innumerable insufferable b**ches in search of the elusive pity f**k is fairly unattractive. From a cost/benefit perspective, onanism is a pretty good deal. (It’s certainly cheaper.)

    Does anyone really care whether I go forth and multiply? I doubt it. I am not an atheist, or even an agnostic, but I do question whether God has any more interest in the fate of one person than the gardener at Versailles has about the fate of a single blade of grass.

    At any rate, if the multiverse theory is true, then there are numerous universes in which I am deliriously happy, thus rendering my disappointments in this universe irrelevant. And if there is only one universe – well, s**t happens. Some folks get lucky and some don’t.

    You might say that I am a defeatist, that I am giving up too easily. And you might have a point. I am at a low ebb at the moment.

    As this decade draws to a close, I reflect on the fact that I have spent the last ten years witnessing the death, decay, and deterioration of all the things that matter to me. And my dreams have mostly deflated, leaving me disillusioned and somewhat embittered. I’m closer to middle age than to childhood, and my life is basically going nowhere. But maybe this is just the darkness before the dawn.

    Note that I am not soliciting sympathy or requesting advice, merely documenting my thoughts for posterity (and the lulz). If you find value in this wall of text, great; if you don’t, too bad. This post is a bottle into which I am shedding one of my tears in rain. So long as unz.com remains online, so long lives this, and this gives life to me.

    But, yeah, I’m not overly concerned with status.

  140. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @James B. Shearer

    Despite all the wet-eyed liberal guff about how ‘immoral’ the death penalty is supposed to be – the stupid c*nts at The Economist and the EU just love to get their panties in a knot over the issue – the collective sigh of tens of millions of Britons saying ‘good’ on hearing the news that the terrorist was summarily gunned down and killed, was almost deafeningly audible.

  141. @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Without abortion, the black population would balloon. Do you want that to happen?

    The black percentage of the population has been increasing for decades. The white percentage has been eroding rapidly. Bastardy has skyrocketed for all races. Fat lot of good Roe has done us.

    When abortion isn’t handy, people behave. They marry. They can adopt. (Who adopts, by the way, and why are they going abroad? You know.)

    Just yesterday several commenters here wished they could go back to the halcyon days of 1950s America. Need I remind anybody that “abortion providers” were then the scum of the earth? In places like San Juan.

    Besides, wouldn’t the deaths of young black women in “back alleys” be more efficient? That removes the present and all potential pregnancies from the scene.

  142. Pericles says:
    @Lurker

    Did Jack Merritt have any loved ones though? Daddy seems to love his killer more than him.

    He was a passionate believer in rehabilitation and transformative justice, not draconian sentencing.

    I expect Jack Merritt would have been the first to criticize the police for shooting the bridge stabber, and would have written many a critical editorial against those members of the public who held the stabber down.

    Here is how Ash Sarkar, retweeted by Daddy Merritt, describes him or her self on Twitter: “Literature bore. Anarcho-fabulous. Muslim. THFC. Walks like a supermodel. Fucks like a champion. Luxury communism now!” Quite possibly the ideal person to speak for the memory of Jack Merritt.

  143. @Reg Cæsar

    Your comments are utterly without Merritt and I spied a specter/spectre tonight and told it, “Sorry, no comments by Jack D., Merritt.” Furthermore, I won’t welsh on a deal made with the Devil to mention that anglo, Saskia Jones.

    [MORE]

    See also: From Sybil Vane’s suicide note in Vladimir Nabokov’s “The Vane Sisters” –
    “Please, Monsieur le Professeur, contact ma soeur and tell her that Death was not better than D minus, but definitely better than Life minus D.”
    – which reminds me that I got, at best, a D- in reading comprehension of a comment by Reg Caesar concerning libraries *near* Mendota Heights (rather than *in* Mendota Heights – which, as RC noted, has none – alas, it seems that I dwell in a library desert). When I then asked my wife about a local library (last frequented, if memory serves, when such “public goods” lent out VHS tapes and 16mm movies) her reply was something like, “No, moron, that’s in West St. Paul.” I find the lines around inner ring suburbs here to be more than a little blurry (the signs are small) and need something like a “City Boundaries For Dummies” supplemented by innumerable “Checkpoint Charlie McCarthys.”*
    * only 2 or 3 Google hits for that gem

    And please, please, don’t tell me that there is no great library of Alexandria, Minnesota.

    • Replies: @reactionry
  144. One thing that I’ve not seen pointed out is that the killer was born in Britain. A second generation extremist religious terrorist for whom the magic dirt didn’t work. How do you vet “Asylum seekers” for their unborn children?

    While we are on the Soggy Isle here’s a man with a decided viewpoint that it’s hard to argue against.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7742783/ANDREW-ROBERTS-Use-vote-honour-victims-murderous-creed-past-century.html

    • Replies: @nymom
  145. @The Anti-Gnostic

    I know scarcely diddly about Kipling, but found some of his stuff to be (a word he might have hated) nuanced.
    This link has some good (and not completely outdated) Kipling vs Orwell:
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-uniforms-that-guard-usrdquo/

  146. @reactionry

    – that’s assuming that she is *Miss* Jones…

  147. J.Ross says:
    @James N. Kennett

    An electrician who fries his own flesh or a redneck who mishandles a shotgun or a mother who forgets how parking brakes work, in the Darwin Awards = not in poor taste.
    A knowitall upper class jerk actively ruining society, killed by the very thing he advocated for, in the Darwin Awards = poor taste.
    Soooooo … money?

    • Agree: James N. Kennett
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  148. J.Ross says:

    Michael Szewczuk (Shevchuk, “shoemaker’s son,” Ukranian-origin Polish, possibly Jewish) has been sentenced to four years in prison for a stupid remark about the stupid royal family by the same court system that gave an early release to the murderer who killed these two people.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  149. LondonBob says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Stabbings are an everyday occurrence in London these days, depressing.

  150. @Hypnotoad666

    Intentionally murdering someone in cold blood, especially when there’s no war going around, is beyond redemption, period.

    In most Western countries, being in prison means you get all your basic needs catered for; you eat well, you sleep well, you even have some limited leisure time. Would anyone, as a parent, declare they can forgive their child’s murderer or not want him dead, knowing he’s alive and kicking, well fed and can make demands to improve his quality of life, while your quality of life is permanently destroyed, and your child’s life is cut short?

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
    , @Dumbo
  151. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    All I can say is that the unfortunate victims of this outrage must have led very sheltered lives.

    They might have read a lot of propaganda nonsense about blacks, browns and vicious, violent criminals, but I strongly doubt they *really* *knew* such people and their ways.

    I agree. In my opinion the parents who raised them and the messages society gave them through the leftist media/education system bear a great part of responsability for their murder.

    My father works with two young women (both in their mid-twenties), who moved to one of the most “vibrant” parts of a major German city, because they had been taught all their life, that multiculturalism was great. After living there for a few months (they worked fulltime outside this neighbourhood and had no children in the public school system, so their contact to their neighbours was limited), their views about multiculturalism had changed dramatically (“Living there was hell on earth”)

  152. @Bard of Bumperstickers

    America is leading the way actually…

  153. Altai says:
    @Dieter Kief

    It was my thought too, though in her case it was even worse since the perpetrator was one of the million and she had volunteered in ‘refugees’ charities for the million. The level of brutality in her case was also so extreme. And unlike this guy or his father, her father had political influence and used his position to publicly argue on the grave of his daughter for more of the absurd policies that have led to who knows how many other rapes either through importing more perpetrators or emboldening the already present ones.

    How can you ever consider yourself privileged or needing to cede anything to anyone with a dead child?

    But then are they any different to those with directly harmed children. There seems to be a generation in Germany who winch at the crimes of their fathers or grandfathers and seem content to salve this guilt by making their children and grandchildren pay. Though suggest, say, that Greece should have it’s debts paid off with the reparations Germany shirked after the war and watch them find their inner chauvinist.

  154. a reader says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Not “victims of crime”, but “victims of criminal justice”. When you genuinely believe that society is at fault, then the criminal becomes the victim, and the criminal’s victim is a kind of collateral damage.

    According to the NYPost and a number of media, the sentence was:

    Jones’ family said she had a “great passion for providing invaluable support to victims of criminal injustice.”

    which I am tempted to believe could well be their original wording, edited by the BBC, wouldn’t you agree?

  155. @Dieter Kief

    I still say Walt Disney had a hand in brainwashing those Christians. What was Bambi but the ultimate propaganda ploy? How many ethnic Disney characters have had those same luminous brown eyes beneath the prettiest, thickest lashes ever? Yet there’s almost always a villain who doesn’t understand that the immigrant beauty was born free to roam from sea to shining sea here in America.

  156. @Kylie

    I could think of many people more deserving of this fate than these two young people. They were doing what their elders told them was the good and right thing to do. “Don’t hate the player hate the game” and “hate the sin not the sinner” applies here. Those two ambitious and conformist university students would likely have been arch British imperialists if they’d been born in Kipling’s time. As it was, they became cheerful and active participants in our civilisational death cult.

    Also, you’re celebrating that they died without issue is motivated by partisan shittiness, not dispassionate Darwinism.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Kylie
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  157. @Stan Adams

    Ever just sit in your car?

    Here’s some Miami blues. “Rain” by Jan Hammer.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  158. @Dieter Kief

    Here’s a new essay on the class of people Maria Ladenburger, Saskia Jones and Jack Merritt were working so hard to join. These are the real Eloi. These are the people who currently run things so frigging well.

    The Characterless Opportunism of the Managerial Class
    by Amber A’Lee Frost
    https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2019/11/the-characterless-opportunism-of-the-managerial-class/

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  159. @James N. Kennett

    LHS (Ruth?) looks like a Tania McGrath wannabe, I think RHS (Amy?) is going for a more Masha Gessen vibe.

    Reading Saskia Jones’ sparse twitter feed, she doesn’t seem to be a true believer like Merritt, whose twitter is truly sad. Though I note he still lived in Cambridge, where not so many people are shot or stabbed at parties when two folk musicians or electronica enthusiasts and their followers fall out.

    If you want to research how all these people

    https://www.crim.cam.ac.uk/People/acadresstaff

    get where they are, you’d have to research the funding committees who ping them on from one research grant to the next until they make tenure. I don’t even know if that’s public info.

    They completely misjudged the risks, of course. A gangsta who shot a rival or someone who killed a girlfriend will behave well if the chance of rehabilitation/release is offered, right up til they get out. A guy who just wants to kill infidels poses a much bigger risk.

    Still, we’re seeing Darwinian selection in real time.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  160. @a reader

    Batman has a “great passion for providing invaluable support to victims of criminal injustice.”

    Ms. Jones lifted weights, somebody said?

    My guess is that joggers tend to support victims of criminal justice, lifters victims of criminal injustice.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  161. @The Anti-Gnostic

    The Anti-Gnostic wrote to me:

    You probably think Kipling’s ‘The White Man’s Burden’ was a defense of imperialism.

    Complicated, isn’t it?

    On the one hand, it is a warning to the US as to what it is getting into (it was written during the brutal US conquest of the Philippines), but it does seem to strongly urge the US to go on and take up a difficult and thankless but nonetheless noble task. Similarly, there seems an air of relief that the USA is starting to relieve Britain of its imperial “burden” but also some sense of regret that Britain is fading geopolitically.

    Part of what makes Kipling interesting is that he often does see two sides: on the one hand, he really does believe in white superiority, but on the other hand he often shows not just fondness but even admiration for the subject peoples (cf. Kim or “The Ballad of East and West”).

    So, yes, I do know that it is unfair to naively pigeonhole Kipling. But still, in some ways, he certainly was a bloody-minded imperialist!

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  162. The good news for England is that all the Nigerian and Ghanaian immigrants do so much better than the native white population on academic tests. In a few years I am sure those clever Africans will figure how to sort all this out.

  163. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/01/london-bridge-attacker-poster-boy-rehab-scheme-targeted/

    The London Bridge attacker was heralded as a success story of the rehabilitation initiative that he went on to attack, it emerged on Sunday night. Learning Together, a Cambridge University programme, worked with Usman Khan in prison and after his release and used him as a case study to show how they helped prisoners.

    Khan even wrote a poem and a thank-you note to organisers after they provided him with a computer he could use without breaching a licence that banned him from going online. Just months later the 28-year-old used his connection to the rehabilitation initiative to get permission to travel to London and kill two of those people who were trying to help him.

    Now be fair, sub-editor. I don’t think he was given permission to kill the staff!

    The guy wrote a poem. Ain’t that nice!

    Cambridge Uni, in the spirit of openness and accountability, have been frantically deleting stuff from the web.

    “While Learning Together’s website appears to have been deleted in the wake of the attack, The Daily Telegraph reported that a cached version of the site appeared to feature Khan as one of the programme’s success stories.”

  164. This article at the Daily Telegraph is behind a paywall but we get enough of it to get the key points:

    London Bridge attacker was poster boy for rehab scheme he targeted
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/01/london-bridge-attacker-poster-boy-rehab-scheme-targeted/

  165. I’m not a rich or upper-middle class member of the credentialed classes. I have a university degree but I’m not slotted into the system that Jack Merritt was racking up merit points to join. In fact, that class of people works tirelessly to handicap and harm people like me and those around me. They don’t just make it expressly clear that they want straight, White guys like me to suffer setbacks, they also want to abolish my civilisation and replace it with globalism.

    I say all this to explain why I lack the resources to protect these militantly stupid people from their pets and I don’t really want to.

  166. kihowi says:
    @Anonymous

    Accidentally honest. The infatuation that women have with groups of dangerous men isn’t ideological, it’s sexual. You don’t see them get very excited about east asians.

    There are liberal men too, you say, and they aren’t gay. They may not have sexual intercourse with men, but on some level of their personality they are excited by criminal, powerful men and want to serve them. That’s gay enough in my book.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
  167. @James Braxton

    Funny how, despite selective immigration having led a smarter fraction of them to the UK, we’ve yet to see a high achieving Nigerian or Ghanaian stand out in any hard science. Instead, the number of Nigerians and Ghanaians making a name for themselves in sports or music in the UK seems to be going up year by year.

    Just laying out a friend’s observations.

  168. @northeast

    “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”

    Hurr, durr, the Heavenly Father must be self-hating, hurr, durr.

    The self-hating Left meme is the damndest thing I’ve ever seen. They’ll be loading you clowns onto cattlecars and you’ll still be wracking your brains trying to figure out how to shove even more self-esteem up their distended assholes.

  169. @songbird

    “are they, at least on the level of instinct, trying to avoid a feud from killing more people with their DNA”

    In fewer words, I believe what you’re describing is “surrendering”.

  170. Thoughts says:

    Jack died for the BEST CAUSE….getting Emma Goldberg’s writing in the JYTimes!

  171. @Dieter Kief

    liberal Christian thinker

    Choose two, present company excluded.

    We’re it for now. They also serve who only stand and wait.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  172. Warner says:
    @Anonymous

    When can the fetus actually, factually, literally live on its own? 8 years? 11 years? Come on, make a real argument.

  173. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    It’s not necessarily even in bad will from the pakies. They’re just hardwired to pounce when somebody is weak, it’s a matter of survival.

    What’s your evidence for this claim here?

  174. Top UK news anchor Kay Burley lauds Merritt’s “trying to make a difference”. Yes, a “difference” which invariably results in more bloodshed and the deaths of innocent people.

  175. Bitfu says:
    @jon

    If one sincerely believes that life begins at some point in the womb, why ‘give it a rest’? F*ck that noise. If you believe that an innocent life is getting murdered, then you’re a punk if you ‘give it a rest’.

    For the life of me, I cannot understand how a woman could give birth and still not believe that an abortion constitutes a murder. From fetal organ development to all the internal movements and kicking, to the mind-body connection, to the profound sadness women suffer upon miscarriage–I don’t get the ‘it’s not really a life argument’.

    I understand that a woman, after going through the process, would find pregnancy brutal. And therefore, she would want to have the option to terminate. I don’t agree, but I understand. What I don’t understand is how that same woman–who actually gave birth –could claim that it’s not really a life until they cut the cord. I think it’s a lie.

    If we discuss abortion strictly in terms of 1st trimester of Day-after pills, at least it strikes me as an honest debate. But we’re in a world that celebrates late term abortion. Again, F*ck That Noise.

    As a man–I’m not supposed to comment on these things. OK, whatever. But, following that logic, it seems that the opinion of women who have actually gone through the process of giving birth should matter more than those who haven’t. I think most women who’ve gone through the process are mortified by abortion.

    Of course, many are also mortified by the prospect of having to go through a pregnancy alone as well as raising a child alone. That certainly does suck.

    But, mid-to-late-term-abortion is murder. Everyone who’s been through the process knows it too.

    How’s that for ‘giving it a rest’?

    • Replies: @jon
  176. @Alfa158

    I have a quite finite amount of sympathy and I’ll not waste a smidgen of it on either of those two. Hoist by their own petard. A fitting end for two people who had apparently dedicated their lives to inflicting exactly this kind of violence on wider society by advocating for lax prison sentences for violent criminals.

    • Agree: brandybranch
  177. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “ People were a lot more careful”

    Was it legalized abortion or was it the decision to pay more welfare benefits for each additional bastard? Or all the other sudden leaps toward greater dysfunction in the 63 to 75 period?

    The women in the left half of the black curve have IQs mostly in the 70 to 84 range, and were during this period also getting cretinized by heavy doses of lead in auto exhaust. Have you spent much time around young women in this IQ range? They are not engaging in complicated decision-making on family planning.

    Moynihan’s “The Negro Family: The Case For National Action” about the rapid increase in black illegitimacy was from 1965, 8 years before R v W.

    • Replies: @nymom
  178. @PhysicistDave

    Kipling’s white superiority was a temporal artefact, not inherent to whiteness per se. Whoever is superior next – whether the Ashkenazi, the Han, or the AI – will bear a similar burden, or shirk it and suffer the consequences.

    • Replies: @Interesting take
  179. Lot says:
    @Cagey Beast

    “ Those two ambitious and conformist university students…”

    These two people however were not just random Labour voters going with the flow and living normal lives, but people who decided to devote their careers to releasing and preventing the incarceration of violent third world criminals.

    I am more reminded of the Weather Underground terrorists who accidentally blew themselves up making bombs in Greenwich Village.

  180. @Dan Hayes

    There’s understanding why the black and Hispanic Democratic legislators might do something like this. Why would the whites go along with it? I guess they figure that the crime will not affect them. So it will grow until it does, and then you get another Giuliani.

    Cuomo increasingly appears the voice Of reason. It’s incredible.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  181. @Dave3

    Unlike Hungarians, who had to fight off wave after wave of Turkish invaders and slavers, Swedes never acquired an instinctive distaste for other races;

    Sure. But how do you explain our distaste for other races, being an Anglo, while most Anglos are the same as Swedes? How did we end up with these genes while most did not?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  182. @Alden

    Think of how annoying and condescending this Merritt kid is. Would you want to get lectured over and over by this smug twerp treating you like a pet? Lol.

  183. Anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Braxton

    Yeah right.

    Why don’t you go and ‘put your money where your mouth is’ and try the experiment for real either in Lagos or Accra according to preference?

    I’m not holding my breath.

  184. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @I, Libertine

    I, Libertine asks:

    “Does anybody know why George Soros wants to gut our criminal justice system?”

    I answer:

    M’thinks it’s because he’s part of an ethnic group that loathes, hates and despises White European Christian civilization. The concept is pretty simply and straight forward.

    George Soros hates us – using his ill begotten (money changing) gains to subvert and destroy all remaining White countries, White cities, White counties etc.

  185. Bernie says:
    @Matra

    If its any consolation to him, he certainy got the future he was hoping for …

  186. Jack D says:
    @jimmyriddle

    And the rest of the Mirpuri villagers will conclude that the English are soft and incapable of defending their homeland.

    Considering that their guy is dead and didn’t last 5 minutes before the English bobbies double tapped him in the head after he was first chased down and beaten by an English mob, I’m not sure that’s the lesson I would draw.

    It seems to me that the British cops are learning from the American and just shoot you nowadays if they think that you are not “complying”. The fake bomb device is now a ticket to martyrdom/suicide by cop for Western jihadists.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  187. I am more reminded of the Weather Underground terrorists who accidentally blew themselves up making bombs in Greenwich Village.

    Here we get to the heart of the matter. Saskia Jones and Jack Merritt may have been carrying out the same agenda as the Weather Underground but they were doing so as dutiful conformists, not as dissidents. That’s how successful the New Left has been over the last fifty years. The Trotskyite permanent revolution has merged and intermarried with the gradualism of the already well-established Fabians. We conservatives were kept sedated or muzzled during that time. Now here we are trying to figure out who’s who and which way is up.

  188. MEH 0910 says:

    OT:
    Steve, your next post, 1965, isn’t displaying properly:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/1965/

    Nothing found

    You had a similar issue with a post from almost a year ago:

    Steve Sailer says:
    December 29, 2018 at 12:06 am GMT
    @MEH 0910

    Thanks. I think this is fixed now. Pro Tip to myself: don’t entitle posts using just the year.

  189. iffen says:

    And just when I was about to give up on the idea that the arc of cosmic justice was not bending toward reaping what you have sown.

  190. @Altai

    I generally give a lot of slack to people who’ve just tragically lost a child – no one likes to think of their dead son as an idiot who got burned playing with fire, but from his pre-attack tweets the father and son were both pretty well aligned politically well before this event.

    The family live, surprise, surprise, in a 97.6% white (as of 2001) village outside Cambridge, just the sort of place from where you can look down on those racist Brexit voters in Stoke-on-Trent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottenham

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @Jack D
  191. nymom says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Yes they have already started releasing the 900 or so criminals (many convicted of similar offenses for which they are currently being held on bail for the one they haven’t been convicted of yet) into the city streets so it won’t be so obvious to New Yorkers if they do it all at once on January 1st…

    All I can say is people keep voting for these damn democrats.

    So we will all have to reap what they continue sowing.

    That’s what happens when only 20% of our citizens vote in the elections. Although now the demographics might have changed so much that it doesn’t matter anymore since even if every white person in NYC voted for one candidate, we are now only 30% of the electorate.

    It’s almost a moot issue.

    It will take a few years, but in a decade or so NYC will be another Detroit or even a Baltimore…

    We are going to hell in a handbasket.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  192. @Alden

    And imagine the over the top, outstanding, poor poor pitiful pathetic me essay she could write.

    Poor, poor, pitiful me,
    poor, poor, pitiful me.
    Oh, these admissions committees
    won’t let me be.
    Poor, poor, pitiful me.

    With so many good interesting comments to reply or respond to, this had to come first!

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Anonymous
  193. nymom says:
    @Lot

    I think overall the increase in single mothers was made possible by many women deciding to have sex outside of marriage and subsequently many men deciding not to marry women they got pregnant.

    So it was actually a combination from both sides of the equation that has led to this change…

    It is probably the wave of the future as I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

  194. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    What kind of person goes on a tweeting rampage right after their son is killed?

    To be fair… it’s not part of his blood, it comes to him late, with long arrears to make good apparently even including a virtue signalling twitter storm.

    Look, I am not making excuses for him, but there are another four whole stanzas that explain this behaviour. And get this… every count will have to be proved and even after that he’s not going to preach it to the crowd let alone speak it aloud.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beginnings

  195. @a reader

    Jones’ family said she had a “great passion for providing invaluable support to victims of criminal injustice.”

    I’m not sure what they mean by this phrase. Does it mean injustice delivered by criminals? Then she would be supporting “victims of crime” (which she did earlier in her career). Or does it mean flaws in the criminal justice system? The book chapter co-authored by Ruth makes it clear that the academics who worked with prisoners “believed in their goodness”.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  196. nymom says:
    @Bill Jones

    Maybe the actual process of awarding someone citizenship has to be slowed down so that if you haven’t been awarded citizenship yet and have children in your host country, the children are not automatically awarded citizenship either.

  197. Rob McX says:
    @James B. Shearer

    In a healthy society, he’d have been shot before the police ever got there. The fact that someone had to use a narwhal tusk in an effort to stop him says it all.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
    , @Lurker
  198. @Desiderius

    These people don’t loathe themselves. They loathe you.

    They loathe Western society in its entirety, but with exceptions for the supposed victims of society (everyone except cisgendered straight white men), and for the “woke”, who have seen the light. The latter exception shows the quasi-religious nature of their beliefs.

    So in practice, yes, they loathe us but not themselves.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  199. Clicking on the “1965” post brings up “Nothing found”.

    “If you remember the Sixties, you weren’t there”?

  200. @YetAnotherAnon

    If you want to research how all these people

    https://www.crim.cam.ac.uk/People/acadresstaff

    get where they are, you’d have to research the funding committees who ping them on from one research grant to the next until they make tenure. I don’t even know if that’s public info.

    I don’t know either, but you can make a guess about funding from the numbers of staff and students in each research group.

    This kind of activity is very well funded, chiefly with taxpayers’ money. Most of the recipients of this largesse spend their time writing papers that are published in junk journals that nobody reads except themselves, travelling to conferences to speak to each other, and reinforcing the prejudices of students, who then go on to hold responsible jobs and thereby take part in Gramsci’s “long march through the institutions”.

    The killings have shown what happens when people with corrupt ideas attempt to apply them in practice. In a sane world, there would be public outrage at the sheer numbers of mad but well-meaning people who receive public money to propagate their stupid ideas. Entire university faculties would be closed down, and their staff dismissed.

    But that is wishful thinking. I doubt anyone will be dismissed or even held responsible for facilitating Usman Khan’s rampage. Public money will continue to finance the Cambridge University Centre for Community, Gender and Social Justice, and dozens of places like it.

  201. @Rob McX

    Lukasz the chef who, brandishing a narwhal tusk…

    The fact that someone had to use a narwhal tusk in an effort to stop him…

  202. @syonredux

    You beat me to it. Unlike, the imaginary, Iron Age, tribal deity still worshiped by some today, the Gods of the Copybook Headings are real. Unlike that other imagined, tribal deity they are jealous, quick to anger, and will punish unto the seventh generation.

  203. @Stan Adams

    “As this decade draws to a close, I reflect on the fact that I have spent the last ten years witnessing the death, decay, and deterioration of all the things that matter to me… this post is a bottle into which I am shedding one of my tears in rain.”

    Amen, brother. You are not by any means alone. I’m sure many of us feel that way.

  204. @Desiderius

    Whether temporal or not, Kipling did express white people’s (and, more specifically, Anglo-Saxon’s) general belief of superiority over other races at the time and it took quite a long time (and a few extremely bloody wars and massacres causing war fatigue) for them to embrace today’s defeatism, even after blacks proved themselves superior in the physical department and East Asians equal if not better in the mental department.

    Modern white supremacists have shifted their talk to only implying superiority in the form of the white man being the happy medium by combining adequate physical and mental capabilities, grit and innovativeness.

    If and when the Han ascend to the top, I doubt they’ll ever relinquish it willingly; their hive mind renders them immune to the diseases that plague the Western mind.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @BB753
    , @Desiderius
  205. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Interesting take

    Modern white supremacists have shifted their talk to only implying superiority in the form of the white man being the happy medium by combining adequate physical and mental capabilities, grit and innovativeness.

    Citation needed.

  206. @Richard of Fallbrook

    He wasn’t weak but just a conditioned idiot courtesy of his father, peers, Oxbridge lecturers and probably The Guardian, The Independent, Channel 4, BBC, Oxfam, Glastonbury festivals, Extinction Rebellion, Hope Not Hate etc.

  207. BB753 says:
    @Interesting take

    The question remains : in 50 years, the Han will be living in a world with a majority low-IQ population, even lower than today, and with fewer numbers in their own ranks, so what will they do with the billions of Africans, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc?

  208. @James Braxton

    A super IQ Nigerian butchered Drummer Lee Rigby in broad daylight. Boko Haram is also exclusively Nigerian.

    Don’t believe our resident African parrot posing as an academic. He is just trying to justify his presence as an alien.

  209. “What do we want?
    Narwhale tusk control.
    When do we want it?
    We want it NOW!”

  210. dearieme says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Cottenham has suffered from the violence of a notorious minority, but they are white or whitish and anyway it’s probably a crime for me even to name them. The Ely Standard does so using a common euphemism.

    “£5,000 Crimestoppers reward for information …
    PUBLISHED: 12:44 25 January 2019 | UPDATED: 12:51 25 January 2019 Ben Jolley
    Thomas Wall, who is 32-years-old, is wanted for questioning after a shotgun was fired at a 37-year-old woman and an eight-year-old child at Smithy Fen in Cottenham on December 29, 2018 at 8am. Wall allegedly fled the scene and remains on the run. He is a member of the travelling community.”

  211. @Redneck farmer

    Genetically he looks just fine.

    It was his nurture which was rotten, not his nature.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  212. @Interesting take

    What defeatism? The white supremacists just embraced deracination to obscure what they’re on about in order to blunt the impact of KGB propaganda. They’re no less chauvinistic than they were a century ago. Did you catch none of the Schiff Show?

    Modern white supremacists don’t talk about it at all. First rule of Woke Club. They just live it.

  213. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:

    Call me cynical, but I would take 100,000 cases like these (Maria Ladenburger, Mollie Tibbetts, Emilie Inman, this attack, etc) over one case like Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

    If these dopes are so eager to be bleeding heart diversity advocates, then cool, let them bleed. Their sacrifice at the Altar of Diversity will serve as an example for others.

    Zero sympathy.

  214. @Old Palo Altan

    He looked like a young Edward G. Robinson.

    Not exactly a paragon of manliness. Doesn’t mean he deserved to die or had nothing of value to contribute.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  215. Rosie says:
    @Dave3

    All surviving whites will have a patriarchal attitude toward women, ensuring a high birth rate

    Not one single discussion can be had on this website without women being attacked.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
  216. @Flip

    Christianity is a weak, feminine religion.

  217. Dan Hayes says:
    @TomSchmidt

    TomSchmidt:

    “Cuomo increasingly appears the voice of reason”

    Are you serious? Actually, Governor Andrew Cuomo cravenly cheers on the unreasonable dictates of the SJWs who now control both New York State and City politics!

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  218. J1234 says:

    The parallels between SJW ideology and religion continue to reveal themselves, and boggle the mind in the process. Murdered white SJW’s, whether they were somewhat casual in their ideology (as with Mollie Tibbets or Tyler Wingate) or much more deliberate (as with these two in Britain), are today’s version of missionaries who are eaten by cannibals. SJW’s won’t be any more dissuaded by terrorists than Christianity and it’s leaders were by cannibals. If you don’t understand that, you’re not paying attention. With all due respect to their grieving families, here are Saskia and Jack viewed in the proper context:

  219. Dan Hayes says:
    @nymom

    nymom:

    The release of criminals taking place in New York State and City mimics that being carried at the Federal level by Trump under the direction of his SJW daughter and son-in-law!

  220. @James N. Kennett

    Saskia Jones was intending to join the police on their shiny new graduate fast track scheme, where elite hirelings don’t have to work their way up from walking the beat and can tell streetwise officers how it really is.

    Our violent streets are crying out for more Cambridge criminology grads!

    But .. she was intending to work with victims, so she probably did mean “criminal injustice” as the injustice of being a victim of crime. But can you take Cambridge Criminology out of the girl?

    Prof Gelsthorpe said: “Saskia’s warm disposition and extraordinary intellectual creativity was combined with a strong belief that people who have committed criminal offences should have opportunities for rehabilitation.”

    https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/remembered-cambridges-bright-lights-snubbed-17346932

  221. Kylie says:
    @Cagey Beast

    “Also, you’re celebrating that they died without issue is motivated by partisan shittiness, not dispassionate Darwinism.”

    Of course I’m motivated by what you smugly call “partisan shittiness”, you self-righteous prig! The policies they advocated and implemented are, ultimately, a threat to my fellow partisans and me. Only a total ass would describe wanting your own kind to survive and even thrive as “partisan shittiness”.

    You’re part of the problem. You still don’t get that in this context, the moral high road is the road to perdition.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  222. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Shades of Fleetwood Mac 1978.

    • Replies: @BB753
  223. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:

    Or even The Donald’s near namesake and Polish EU supremo.

  224. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    How did we end up with these genes while most did not?

    I’d say it’s because political opinions are a matter of software, rather than hardware (genes).

  225. @Rosie

    Fathers are good for people. Guess you’re the one the feminists are referring to when they explain that feminism is just the radical idea that women are people.

    If we were attacking you, you’d know it.

  226. @Rosie

    If you think that hoping for a return to patriarchy (the social system we’ve had for all of recorded history until the 1970’s) is an attack on women, then it’s you who doesn’t get it.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Rosie
  227. 22pp22 says:
    @Stan Adams

    My feelings too, and I am closer to old age than to middle age (54). I am married and I do have an income. Two miscarriages, no children. Without a family to give my life meaning, I invested too much emotional capital in the society and civilization around me. I alternate between contempt and sadness.

    In many ways, I have a life that many would envy, living in Cyprus and New Zealand, owning a holiday home in Australia.

    I come to UNZ for the same reasons.

    I know I should feel sorry that two young lives that have been snuffed out, but I will reserve my sympathy for people who don’t think it’s cool to [email protected] on their own. In many ways they got what they wanted.

  228. @Kylie

    The policies they advocated and implemented are, ultimately, a threat to my fellow partisans and me.

    Funnily enough I made that same argument in a comment that’s currently in approval limbo above this one by you.

    You’re part of the problem. You still don’t get that in this context, the moral high road is the road to perdition.

    Yes I’m too softhearted to think two young adults and their yet unborn children (!) will have to die off because they’re currently acting as my political enemies. I guess I wouldn’t have made it as a Cheka cellar killer.

    • Replies: @Kylie
  229. @Stan Adams

    2 things: you can make more money and become more physically attractive (barring the possibility you have a serious genetic disorder you’re not divulging).

    Your screed was pretty well-written. Go back to school (or finish it) and you’ll find a better-paying job. Since you don’t make any money you probably qualify for a PELL grant. If you’re not social do something like IT or engineering. You don’t have to be a mathematics genius to enter into these fields if you have a decent verbal IQ and ability to analyze.

    As for not being physically attractive and wanting kids…the average American over 25 is so obese that all you need to have the bare minimum of attractiveness is a reasonable BMI. Weight loss is not terribly difficult, and it usually improves facial aesthetics too. If the main reason you want a relationship is for the kids just date a chubby woman. You could always work on improving fitness together.

    I know you didn’t want advice but I’m giving it anyway (by the sound of it you’re not that old). I never had any extreme issues, but it would have helped me a lot in my early 20s if someone told me to work on my wardrobe. My fortunes dramatically improved once I changed my style.

    I agree that it’s hard to feel sorry for these 2 victims. I view them the same way I view the Mormon polygamists who were murdered while traveling in a caravan to Mexico, and the American missionary who approached the North Sentinelese. Merritt & Jones wanted dialogue with criminals at their event, and they certainly got it.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  230. @James N. Kennett

    They loathe Western society in its entirety, but with exceptions for the supposed victims of society (everyone except cisgendered straight white men), and for the “woke”, who have seen the light. The latter exception shows the quasi-religious nature of their beliefs.
    So in practice, yes, they loathe us but not themselves.

    I think it’s best to think of it as a neo-Calvinist doctrine with Blacks and browns as the elect, with a Pelagian carve out for Pale Stale People with the “correct” attitude. Hating on deplorables is the only path to Salvation.

  231. jon says:
    @Bitfu

    What I don’t understand is how that same woman–who actually gave birth –could claim that it’s not really a life until they cut the cord. I think it’s a lie.

    The lie is that there is any significant portion of the population that believes “it’s not really a life until they cut the cord.”

    If we discuss abortion strictly in terms of 1st trimester of Day-after pills, at least it strikes me as an honest debate.

    Good news, this is the debate we are actually having in this country.

  232. jon says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    You’re assuming those 65 million would have been conceived in the first place.

    Whether it’s six, sixteen or sixty million is just a matter of degree. It doesn’t change my point.

  233. @Richard of Fallbrook

    More like the Mohammedan, who is ruled by instinct, was repelled by creatures so completely unnatural and who regarded themselves as his betters.

  234. jon says:

    UK requires hero who was stabbed on London Bridge in 2017* to undergo ‘deradicalization’ to avoid Islamophobia

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/uk-requires-hero-who-was-stabbed-on-london-bridge-in-2017-to-undergo-de-radicalization-to-avoid-islamophobia

    As deadly terrorist attacks are part and parcel of our modern life, it’s necessary to distinguish which London Bridge attack we are talking about.

  235. eah says:

    Another tweet from his father –> link — note the # of likes; be sure to read the replies.

    Don’t use my son’s death, and his and his colleague’s photos – to promote your vile propaganda. Jack stood against everything you stand for – hatred, division, ignorance.

    Apropos, “I’ll just drop this here” –> link

    Our task is to defeat hordes of white people.

    Our enemy is other white people.

    After they’re out of the way, we have no other obstacles.

    • Replies: @jon
  236. @Rosie

    @Dave3

    All surviving whites will have a patriarchal attitude toward women, ensuring a high birth rate

    Not one single discussion can be had on this website without women being attacked.

    Dave3’s comment is not an attack, but a survivalist fantasy that is unrealistic in every detail.

  237. anon[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch

    That’s one way to think of it. Another way to think of it is to regard “whiteness” as Original Sin which must be perpetually expiated via acts of sacrifice and contrition to any and all People of Color, so long as even a speck of “whiteness” continues to pollute Gaia.

    There are many paths. Hating the Deplorable is merely one, offering up one’s neighbors and family as literal sacrifices is another albeit much more extreme. Expending money and resources is another, and this is best done with other people’s money of course. Notice how I managed to explicate without bringing up any specific system of belief? That’s because I’m not interested in sowing discord.

    Attempting to tie the cult of Wokeness to any particular religious tradition may be fun, but it looks a whole lot more like trolling, rather than deducing or explaining.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  238. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “somebody murdered while organizing for criminal justice”

    Merritt and Jones were successful beyond their dreams. They received “criminal justice.”

    • Agree: ben tillman
  239. Daily Mail on the academic leading the programme – https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7747325/London-Bridge-prisoner-scheme-academic-aided-killers-release.html

    These people are a danger to themselves and others and should never be allowed to have influence.

  240. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Ever just sit in your car?

    Like Elliot Rodger? “I’m a closeted hapa with a BMW; why am I not being ravished by statuesque blondes?”

    Yeah, I listen to that stuff all the time. (The music, that is.)

    Lately, I’ve been putting a lot of chillwave/synthwave on in the background:

    I do a lot of roaming around in downtown Miami, usually in the hours around sunset. It’s nice just to stroll along the river:

    Or walk through the Brickell City Center mall:

    If I don’t feel like going all the way downtown, I go to Dadeland. It’s not too terribly far from where I live:

    It’s just a mall, but it’s full of memories. My mother and grandmother went shopping every Saturday when I was a kid, and I always went with them. I celebrated my high-school graduation at a now-defunct restaurant near the main entrance. My cousin had her sweet-sixteen party at the nearby Marriott.

    And it’s still doing pretty well. Miami is one of the few places in North America where retail is expanding, not contracting. (That being said, the last two remaining Sears stores in Dade County are closing early next year.)

    Last week I visited the future site of the world’s largest mall, located some miles northwest of Miami. I rode a brand-new bus route to a brand-new open-air bus terminal at a brand-new park-and-ride lot that, today, is located smack-dab in the middle of nowhere. There is literally nothing there except a massive parking lot on the edge of a vast swampy forest at the intersection of two heavily-traveled expressways. The greenery stretches off into the distance as far as the eye can see:

    The bus terminal is big – large enough to accomodate ten buses at once – but today it services only one route, and only during the rush hour. I was the only passenger on the bus going both ways, and the parking lot was completely empty. While waiting for the return bus, I stood all alone under the broad expanse of the sheltering sky, watching the cars whizzing by. It was eerie:

    But five years from now that forest will be gone, replaced by a gargantuan retail/entertainment complex. The parking lot will be crammed with cars, and the bus terminal will be bustling with activity:

    And vanishingly few of the people whizzing in and out of that parking lot will be Anglos.

  241. @J.Ross

    I suppose you (and many others here) are assuming that Jack Merritt was upper class because he was a Cambridge graduate?

    I know the grandmother (who told me the tale) of a young man who, with a brilliant record at Eton and a famous name, was just refused a place at Oxford, as was his even more brilliant female cousin two years ago. Both the name and the dreaded word Eton will have doomed his chances from the start.

    The true upper class has been hunted nearly to extinction, at least when it comes to university places. These days they are much more likely to be found at St Andrews or Durham or even Newcastle than at either of the historic universities of a once proud and worthy nation, now reduced to snivelling impotence.

    Besides, nobody with such a prole-like father as poor Jack was burdened with can possibly have been upper class.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @ben tillman
  242. @Desiderius

    Genotype vs phenotype.

    In other words, the old British Army (Sandhurst, say) would have made something very different out of him than did Cambridge University.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  243. J.Ross says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Irrelevant. Soft science degeees are often garbage even if from a good school. I am off by a mile because the UK actually has a formal class system such as Peter the Great would admire, with medieval ranks and everything. Nevertheless this is a guy who career-wise could easily have found himself in academia or the deep state (albeit on the ground floor), not least because he is ideologically in lockstep with them already. That’s ruling class enough outside the metric system. I am thinking of it not in terms of income or family trees but in terms of sides. He’s definitely on their side, wearing their colors and doing their work.

    (Was my memecraft comment eaten, or pruned for irrelevance? A 200 page pseudoscientific paper on Russian hackers [and an insider claiming that the CIA heard from a panel of experts that “it’s not Russians” and instantly responded “okay, thank you for your efforts, but we’re going to tell everybody it was Russians”] struck me as interesting. It’s a new paper “published” a week ago, it’s not from 2016.)

  244. @Bragadocious

    A “left-leaning atheist” isn’t non-religious he’s a Diversitarian.

  245. @Kylie

    Haha, on the “died without issue”. I never heard that one before.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  246. @Bragadocious

    Been trying to LOL and AGREE for more than 8 hours. Maybe I’ve been running into another limit.

    Anyway, good one, Bragadocious!

  247. @Cagey Beast

    These people were old enough to think for themselves. C.B. Sure, many of the ctrl-left had been brought up by lefty parents and been subject to 16 or more years of Gov’t school/University propaganda. Still, you’ve got to wise up, as the road to hell is paved with the good intentions of people exactly like these two.

    I’m a parent by the way, but not only am I laughing at this (especially at the severely delusional Dad), but I am wondering what the hell kind of coincidence this was.

    I’ve read much of this thread. Would someone one here who knows more tell me whether the fact that the Moslem dude killed both of these guys was nothing but a coincidence, please? It’s pretty weird if it is.

  248. bomag says:
    @Richard of Fallbrook

    The weak die, the strong survive.

    The Alluah Akbars of the world would be much reduced without the global welfare state built and maintained by the Jacks and Saskias of the world; only strong in a narrow sense.

    This was analogous to a dingo eating a baby.

  249. @Desiderius

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Spaemann  

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Schr%C3%B6der_(Theologe)  

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berger_(Theologe)  

    Spaemann is intellectually and theologically the most interesting of the three. But Schroeder is not to be underestimated – it’s just that he is maybe too old already to really fight.

    David Berger is the one who threw me out of the comment section of his blog philosophia perennis – because he could, hehe (I admit I did get on his nerves, – – – but not for lush reasons). He is young and willing to fight.

    (When exchanging ideas with the Old Palo Altan, I brought forward my idea, that with the loss of a clear and strong idea of its own transcendental roots, the Christian Church is highly at risk to lose its – – – influence (especially its binding power). I asked the Old Palo Altan what he thinks about the idea of a inner-worldly transcendentalism****, which is intellectually quite strong – (ehh I know that I’m now talking about the right side of the bell curve. And I know, that it is quite useful, that Christianity does have stories to tell for the middle of the curve and the left side too – I know and appreciate that – but still. It might make sense to tolerate all kinds of agnostics and atheists and non-theists (like Erich Fromm) as long as they 2) at least tolerate the Christian faith – and 3) understand and tell people that no science whatsoever can answer existential questions.

    ***** Friedrich Kambartel, Jürgen Mittelstraß and Ludwig Wittgenstein come to my mind.

  250. The headline of

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/01/second-london-bridge-victim-cambridge-university-student
    is followed by the notation “Hannah Mays and agency”. Hannah Mays is presumably the reporter, but what does “and agency” refer to? Is this some convention of British newspaper reporting?

  251. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    “remember these people. They are not logical.” No, logic has nothing to do with their behavior.

    If we are to be consistent, then we must believe that even this extreme masochism is heritable.

    Like Father, like son.

  252. El Dato says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Well, the UK will have to start regulating narval tusks now. It’s about time.

    Meanwhile, while is Germany such a do-gooder shithole?

    Some Isis Abu who roamed the street of Germany as “refugee” had to go to Iraq to actually arrange to be arrested.

    https://www.rt.com/news/474865-yazidi-confronts-isis-rapist/

    Hamid fled to Germany in 2015 and began to build a new life, but was forced to confront the trauma again when she bumped into Hamam on a street in Stuttgart, where he threatened her by saying he knew now where she lived.

    Although she told German police an IS militant was walking free on their streets, she was informed there was nothing they could do because, like her, he was registered as a refugee.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  253. Dumbo says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The photos in the “Learning Together” newsletter for 2019 (now offline) showed that nearly all the students who volunteered to “learn” in men’s prisons were women.

    As Whiskey might say: Every. Single. Time. LOL.

    I can understand women’s desire for a strong, alpha type. But I don’t really get the tingles for low-IQ criminal brown thugs. Maybe it’s a certain subset of women who go for this thing. Wouldn’t it make much more sense to settle for a white nerdy engineer that can give you high IQ children? (I know, most actually do in the end – but not always as a first choice).

    Men are more logical. We just look for pretty (good genes) and young (fertile). Then of course other things (companionship, not being a bitch, etc).

    • Replies: @Read some Roissy
  254. @J.Ross

    Unbelievable. Scratch that–believable.

  255. Here’s the new Bishop Of London, heir to Dunstan and Ridley, speaking at a memorial vigil for the deceased. Yikes.

    • Replies: @anon
  256. @Anonymous

    In other words, Amy and Ruth believe in unicorns. Another irony in this whole affair was that the assailant was subdued by someone wielding the very symbol of the insanity that brought the victims and their destiny together. Wasn’t it Narwhal tusks that were the source of the unicorn legends?

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
  257. Dumbo says:
    @Please help

    In most Western countries, being in prison means you get all your basic needs catered for; you eat well, you sleep well, you even have some limited leisure time.

    Yep, this is why I don’t understand this people like Merritt who want to reduce prison sentences. I thought prison sentences already very low in the UK? Theodore Dalrymple wrote about several cases of violent thugs released with basically and admonition or a slap on the wrist.

    Many criminals don’t care a lot about prison; it’s like vacation for them. I actually remember reading about someone in the UK who killed someone so that he could go to prison and not have to work.

    I don’t see what’s the big deal. It’s not that hard. Violent murderers should be punished with death. (The way I see it, if you took someone’s life, you’re forfeiting your own) Repeating violent muggers, with long sentences. Other cases can be more complicated, but in general, it’s not rocket science.

  258. @Achmed E. Newman

    Would someone one here who knows more tell me whether the fact that the Moslem dude killed both of these guys was nothing but a coincidence, please? It’s pretty weird if it is.

    Apparently the Cambridge criminology students and their killer were all gathered for an event celebrating the success of the Learning Together rehabilitation project:

    All participants in the programme were invited to the conference[1] and, although banned from entering London under the terms of his release, former prisoner Usman Khan was granted a one-day exemption to attend.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_London_Bridge_stabbing

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  259. @Achmed E. Newman

    “whether the fact that the Moslem dude killed both of these guys was nothing but a coincidence, please”

    Apparently Merritt, who may be an idiot but was a brave one, tried to stop him leaving the hall. The girl would have been a softer or nearer target.

    They were all in a hall, one jihadist, various other criminals, and a load of academics – so the first casualties, before he got out onto London Bridge, would be either criminals or academics.

    Incidentally there was a hit-and-run in Essex today, not so far away from London, in which a car mounted the pavement and struck a group of schoolchildren, killing one. No declared suspect or motive – yet.

    “The force urged the public not to speculate on the circumstances or people involved in what it described as a “truly shocking” incident. “

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  260. Dumbo says:
    @El Dato

    Germans are weird. They are very fixated on rules, so, right now the rules are that “refugees” have special rights, so you can’t do anything about it. On the other hand they can be very tough on regular people who are “racist” or “politically incorrect”, or families who homeschool their children, or just some random Asian tourist who takes a picture in Berlin making a Nazi salute. So they can go from one extreme (Nazis) to another (current multiculti stuff). They like rules, but it seems that they don’t think a lot about the reason for the rules themselves, or it doesn’t matter which rules those are, as long as they are obeyed. (But, I don’t think that most German people as a whole are very happy about the current situation of “refugees”; so this might change again at some point).

  261. @William Badwhite

    Think before you react. Corvinus is a fanatical ideologue who masks his distorted view of the world behind mock impartiality and better tham average knowledge of history, but in reality he would cut the baby in two in the name of justice despite the mother’s plight.

    Craftsman is right. Revenge and justice often overlap, but they’re not the same. Is it justice if you kill your son’s killer’s brother or is it just revenge? Anywhere in the world where vendettas prevail, the rule of law is weak. Northern Albania, Sicily, Crete, backward places all of them.

    The problem here isn’t that justice wasn’t served; it was. The killer was put down promptly, albeit not for the murders themselves. It’s the difference in mentality. Remember when those three Jewish American boys were murdered in Israel? The Israelis went out of their way to find the killers and then some, and the dissenters, if any, were muffled.

    On one hand, you have a society that protects and asserts itself, not afraid to use violent means and cause injustice, real or perceived; on the other hand, you have a society that is intent on dismantling itself, held back only by legacy institutions and some remaining common sense. Which one is healthier?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  262. @kihowi

    My University used to have a Death Penalty project, trying to stop Caribbean countries executing their murderers. They had their own building and the atmosphere there was incredible – it reeked of sex like Harvey Weinstein’s private office!

  263. @Dieter Kief

    “It might make sense to tolerate all kinds of agnostics and atheists and non-theists (like Erich Fromm) as long as they 2) at least tolerate the Christian faith – and 3) understand and tell people that no science whatsoever can answer existential questions.”

    But we do, if you mean existentially tolerate. As for intellectually, well, let the arguments begin.
    Number three seems to me to be the most important of the characteristics you mention, without which no useful dialogue is possible (as all too many contributors here make clear every day).

    I would say though that, unrepentant Rightist that I am, I find it much easier to tolerate a Wittgenstein than a Habermas. Or a Maurras rather than a Sartre. Or a Celine … but you get my point.

    You may know, or may not, that before his “outing” David Berger was a bright young star in the neo-Thomist and liturgically traditionalist firmament. After his exposure he became, perhaps understandably but nevertheless odiously, just one more petulant “gay” voice, going so far as to accuse Pope Benedict of being a self-hating homosexual. I learn from reading the wiki article you link to that he has admitted the odious nature of such speculations and has even praised our pope as “die grosse Lichtgestalt auf dem Petersthron”. Even better, he sees clearly what a disaster for the papacy the otherwise nullity Bergoglio is, given that he (putatively) sits upon that same throne.

    I note that Kambartel and Mittelstrass spent their careers in Constance – I suppose you know them? Kambartel’s idea of the primacy of practical over theoretically reasoning is intriguingly reminiscent of Dr Johnson’s famous refutation of Berkeley – at least as recounted by wiki! Can you recommend a reasonably short article by him or a disciple explaining his thinking?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  264. anon[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    3rd runner up in some “Austin Powers lookalike contest”?

    • LOL: jon, Achmed E. Newman
  265. @BB753

    Those which they permit to live, they will enslave.

  266. @BB753

    They’ll set them on fire as they try to cross the Chinese border and cheer as they watch them combust. Look up the news item about the Chinese using flamethrowers vs terrorists, published and endorsed by the Chinese state media. There was no mention of the enemy’s human rights.

    • Replies: @BB753
  267. @Dumbo

    Intelligence per se isn’t a turn on for women and if you can’t understand that, you can just embrace it and use your intelligence to learn from scratch what triggers a woman’s desire. Trial and error and a little bit of boldness works wonders.

    Oh, and read some Roissy.

  268. jon says:
    @eah

    Don’t use my son’s death, and his and his colleague’s photos – to promote your vile propaganda. Jack stood against everything you stand for – hatred, division, ignorance.

    I suppose he has no choice but to double down at this point. To admit he might have been wrong would be to admit he helped along the circumstances that led to his son’s brutal death.

    • Replies: @eah
  269. @Dan Hayes

    He takes the fight to DeBlasio, who makes him look reasonable. We aren’t talking about Tom Dewey any more.

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
  270. @anon

    Attempting to tie the cult of Wokeness to any particular religious tradition may be fun, but it looks a whole lot more like trolling, rather than deducing or explaining.

    Was not my intent, but your point is well taken.

  271. Emma appears to be yet another of those Young Things spawned by The Ivies who write stuff like this with nary a trace of irony.

    “The world is full of injustice.” Duhh, ya think? And, by the way, welcome TO that world, Emma.

  272. @J.Ross

    If you had used “ruling class” to begin with I would have agreed with your point unreservedly.
    These days “upper class” and “ruling class” can plausibly be described as mutually exclusive terms.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  273. Jack Merritt’s father Dave has gone further than his tweets, and written an article on his son’s murder.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/02/jack-merritt-london-bridge-attack-dave-merritt

    It is sad to read, but not for the reasons you would expect. It may be that, in his grief, the loss of his son has not yet fully registered. Even bearing that possibility in mind, the text is quite disturbing.

    If Jack could comment on his death – and the tragic incident on Friday 29 November –

    An earthquake is a tragedy. A lightning strike is a tragedy. Being killed by someone you have invited to join you because you know he has homicidal thoughts is not a tragedy – except in the original Greek sense of an unfolding of events determined by a person’s flaws of character.

    he would be livid … He would be seething at his death, and his life, being used to perpetuate an agenda of hate that he gave his everything fighting against.

    The fact that Jack Merritt and Saskia Jones were killed by somebody who genuinely did have an “agenda of hate” does not register. The killer has vanished into thin air. Jack gave his everything fighting people like you and me.

    Jack believed in the inherent goodness of humanity,

    Most people would conclude that he was wrong about that.

    and felt a deep social responsibility to protect that.

    By protecting the inherent goodness of serious criminals from the hatred of deplorable people who want to have them put away.

    By publishing such a heartfelt defence of the activities and beliefs of his son – and, by implication, of his employers at Cambridge University – Dave Merritt has given the responsible authorities permission to ignore the lessons that a reasonable person might learn from the double murder. There will be no review of the activities of the Institute of Criminology, or of the Centre for Community, Gender and Social Justice. Nobody will be held responsible for facilitating Usman Khan’s spree killing. Nobody will lose their job. The breathtaking naivety of some of the faculty is not something that will be examined, and neither will the material with which they indoctrinate their students. The grant money will continue to flow into brain-dead “research”, most of which mercifully has no real-world impact.

    Wokeness might as well be the state religion, and for these learned fools, it already is. There is nothing we can say to change their minds. They look at us “haters” with the same contempt that early Christian emperors viewed pagans.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  274. @Reg Cæsar

    The race realists of 100-150 years ago took exception to wiping out the next generation. And hedonism wasn’t even the justification it is now.

    There have been enough abortions in the US since 1970 to populate Canada and Australia. There have been nearly enough in Canada since 1988 to populate New Zealand.

    The race realists of 100-150 years ago inhabited a U.S. and a world with a quarter of today’s population. Regardless of how one feels about abortion, why does an overpopulated world need enough additional bodies to populate Canada and Australia?

    How many more billions of people will make you feel virtuous for promoting the Right to Breed Infinitely?

    • Agree: nebulafox
  275. @Living up to bad

    Revenge and justice often overlap, but they’re not the same.

    Yes, most people know this.

    Anyway, I was commenting not on the message from Craftsman but on the faux mystic Kung Fu, look-how-clever-I-am, pose more questions than answers while saying nothing Corvinus-style format: “sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t, except when it is and is not at the same time…”

    Anywhere in the world where vendettas prevail, the rule of law is weak. Northern Albania, Sicily, Crete, backward places all of them.

    Interesting you chose only the fringes of Europe. Also, Pakistan, Afghanistan, most of sub-Saharan Africa etc etc. Consider the possibility that the vendettas prevail because there is no rule of law, rather than the other way around. Criminals have to be punished for justice to exist. Rule of law is preferable to revenge/vendetta; but revenge/vendetta is preferable to criminals having impunity.

    A system where neither revenge nor justice are achieved seems to be where we’re headed. What follows that is…vendetta and revenge. The “rule of law” presupposes that the State, to whom society has granted a monopoly on violence, will punish the criminals. That is “the deal” so to speak: we give up our right to vendetta and revenge and in exchange, the State will pursue justice on our behalf. This is why criminal charges are “California vs. Smith” rather than “Jones vs. Smith”.

    People that do not want to see a revenge/vendetta society emerge should strongly oppose the trend towards turning a blind eye to crime because of “over representation” of blacks in the criminal justice system.

    • Replies: @Living up to good
  276. @Old Palo Altan

    Kambartel is a wonder of sorts. Editor of Freges works. Chemist. Then he turned his back to his main crowd (applauded at the university not least by yours truly) of the Erlanger constructivism, which still incorporated the ultimate “sin” of theoretical self-righteousness and embarked into Freidrich Hölderlin’s fields of the great wide open = – – – the Wittgenstein (and Eckhard and Seuse-territory).
    The English wiki-article about him is better than the German one, by the way.
    I know Friedrich Kambartel. Therefore I know, that he is most of the time an even laughably scrupulous writer. And he is even worse at publishing his ideas. I met him the last time at the Marktstätte in Konstanz, exactly three years ago – late autumn, rainy evening. He could hardly walk, because he had a hip-problem, I think from childhood on, and I greeted him and talked to him about an economical problem we have been discussing 30 (sigh) years ago and he literally took up the sentences we exchanged then and spun them forward…

    A thought of him which I hold very dear is the following: Kant’s thinking does not allow for a solid answer of our ethical (or moral or existential) problems. Kambartel goes on: Kant did think so, but he was wrong. The reason for this (still Kambartel) is, that these problems are not of a theoretical (or formal) nature (to even assume that would still be a fault), but are of a practical nature. To solve them, you need a decent culture and a good society (now I have the picture in front of my eyes, which you, Old Palo Altan – installed there – the businessman or lawyer or some such in Munich, you talked about, in the Biergarten, having breakfast surrounded by all kinds of regular folks… – that’s it (that’s the short version of it – but I guess, I can apply it here and still make me understood – and that is a pleasure!)

    The best Kambartel texts, therefore, are by his best-known pupil, Thomas Rentsch: Heidegger und Wittgenstein and – – -(even better) “Gott” – easily available via Amazon – or your local bookstore?!).
    Except for that, a lot of what Yours truly posts is tinged by Friedrich Kambartel’s thinking – not least the Wittgenstein part of it.

    Oh, I know of David Berger’s Thomist past. David Berger is interesting and his blog “philosophia perennis” has good articles. If only he understood the word humble or humbleness better (he could use a good dose of – Lau Dse’s humor…and – – – Demut). But since we can’t bake them, – we have to take them (as they are…).

    T. C. Boyle talks a lot about Jesus lately.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  277. @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    I’m not happy they died in agony but I’m not shedding tears either. They did sort of ask for it.

    “Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other, and scarce in that.”

    — Benjamin Franklin

  278. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I always loved that song. Nowadays the essay is considered the most important thing. Friend of my son claims he got into Stanford writing about the death of his turtle.

    Thanks now I’ll listen to Linda

  279. I nominate both of them for the ultimate honor in posthumous social justice. The equivalent of the Medal of Honor for SJW’s, The Amy Biehl award. I’m sure it will look good on their grave markers.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  280. @istevefan

    They’re as sick in their own way as are downtrodden Whites who are on opioids.

    I’m not thinking that you gave this comment sufficient consideration before you posted it. The “white liberals” are far sicker than the future “death of despair” white opiate users. The desperate are at least capable of sensing that our culture has gone disastrously wrong – even if they may have misdiagnosed the disease, they clearly see the symptoms. And their despair has led them to check out since there is no socially acceptable means of fighting the true causes.

    The white liberals are utterly delusional if not completely insane. They refuse to see or acknowledge the reality directly in front of their eyes even when it results in their own injury or in the torture, rape, and death of their own children. In their zealotry they will see, indeed they’ll loudly demand, our death and destruction in pursuit of their obviously impossible utopian delusion.

    An analogy might be a non-transmissible disease like cancer versus a transmissible plague like the Black Death. One is tragic but the damages are self-limiting while the other must be eradicated before it destroys us all. We may correctly have sympathy and compassion for the guy who has pancreatic cancer, but we must ruthlessly condemn and destroy the guy with HIV who is excited and happy to be “pozzed” and eagerly runs about infecting everyone he encounters.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  281. Alden says:
    @Rob McX

    In a healthy society he’d have been locked up in some super security prison like Marion Il or Florence Co and never released.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  282. Kylie says:
    @Cagey Beast

    “Yes I’m too softhearted to think two young adults and their yet unborn children (!) will have to die off because they’re currently acting as my political enemies. I guess I wouldn’t have made it as a Cheka cellar killer.”

    Go right ahead and sneer at what you apparently see as my hard-heartedness. Those two young adults weren’t just currently acting as your political enemies. They were acting to protect, enable and free criminals, seemingly without any concern as to whether or not they were violent offenders. If you don’t see the very real physical–not political but physical–threat in that, then you are either willfully blind or have lived such a coddled existence that you literally cannot see the threat for what it is.

    I’m going to take a wild guess here that you have never had such a criminal, much larger and stronger than you, punch you in the face for no reason other than that he could. Nor have you had a gun or knife pulled on you. In other words, either you yourself are a large strong person confident of his ability to defend himself or you have no idea of what it’s like to navigate in the midst of a criminal underclass.

    Such criminals–and their enablers–are a threat to my life, my way of life and my fellow “partisans” . I don’t waste time sympathizing or empathizing with them and I certainly don’t regret their passing.

    You remind me of an exceedingly stupid woman I knew. (Yes, she supported Obama.) I said if someone broke into my house when I was alone that I was prepared to shoot the intruder. She sneered, “Sounds like you’re ready to go on a rampage.” She was too stupid to distinguish between at-home self-defense and going out in public to kill innocent victims.

    You’re not just soft-hearted, you’re soft-headed.

    • Agree: Jack Henson
    • Replies: @Jack Henson
  283. @Achmed E. Newman

    died without issue is a very old term in common law.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  284. @Alden

    In a healthy society he’d have been executed the first time.

    • Agree: Alden
  285. Rosie says:
    @Cagey Beast

    If you think that hoping for a return to patriarchy (the social system we’ve had for all of recorded history until the 1970’s) is an attack on women, then it’s you who doesn’t get it.

    This is a completely absurd statement. “We” haven’t had one single social system for the past couple of hundred years, let alone all of recorded history.

    If you’re going to use intentionally provocative terms like “patriarchy,” you really ought to be clear what you mean by it. Are you talking like ancient Athens or contemporary Afghanistan ” patriarchy? Or did you have something more benevolent in mind, like 1950s America?

  286. eah says:
    @jon

    He does have a choice, and he did choose — I searched his Twitter timeline for “Rotherham” or “grooming”, but got no results — anyway, the main point is that it is multitudes of Whites like him who are the main obstacle to creating a more relevant and effective white identity movement.

  287. @Kylie

    The virtue signaling here by people who should know better is attracting FCC attention.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  288. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Linda, cute as a button if not hot (to me) and certainly one of the finest voices of her time, was not a songwriter. Warren Zevon wrote it.

    “Poor Poor Pitiful Me” is a rock song written and first recorded by American musician Warren Zevon in 1976.

    With genders reversed, it was made a hit twice: first as a top-40 hit for Linda Ronstadt, then over a decade later by Terri Clark, whose version topped the Canadian country charts and reached the country top five in the U.S.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  289. @William Badwhite

    The reason I chose to mention areas within Europe is first, because they’re in stark contrast to the rest of the countries they’re in and Europe was the first to do away with vendettas and establish rule of law as we know it, and second, because they’re more familiar with the readership. I doubt any of the readers here have the impression that third-world countries are functioning and their inhabitants are noble, cultured and happy. Otherwise we’re on the same page lol.

  290. @kaganovitch

    I think you’re close, but I’d say that in the SJW theological vision, the Elect are the Woke Whites. PoC are just fodder to the Elect: Woke Whites grant PoC no real moral agency, reducing them to something less than fully human. The real work of PoC salvation must be carried out by their betters, i.e. the Elect, who try to act as substitute saviors.

    There is therefore a Pelagian element to the Woke heresy, but there’s also a heavy gnostic influence; the term ‘woke’ itself, and the way it’s caught on very quickly, reveals this.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  291. @S. Anonyia

    I have a BA in creative writing and journalism. (Yes, I’m one of those clueless English majors.)

    My (early-2000s) Verbal SAT score was 800, so presumably I have a fairly high verbal IQ.

    My IQ has been tested twice (by the school system). The first test, at age 5, pegged me in the 140s. The second, around 11 or 12, put me in the 160s. Which (if either) is correct, I can’t say.

    I memorized the calendar in my early 20s. I amuse myself by converting random numbers into dates.

    For example, right now I am watching two men paint a steel pipe. They’re using a scissor lift, model GS-2632.

    2632

    1902-03-26 Wednesday
    2002-03-26 Tuesday

    1932-02-06 Saturday
    2032-02-06 Friday

    1932-06-02 Thursday
    2032-06-02 Wednesday

    1926-03-02 Tuesday
    2026-03-02 Monday

    2632 will have the same calendar as 2232, which will have the same calendar as 1832, which had the same calendar as 1928, which had the same calendar as 2012. In 2632, January 1 will fall on a Sunday.

    All that without looking it up. But I’m not a savant – I can’t do snap calculations. I don’t count toothpicks.

    I see a bus, No. 6129.

    In 2009, June 12 fell on a Friday. In my lifetime, it fell on a Friday in 1987, 1992, 1998, 2009, and 2015. It will next fall on a Friday in 2020.

    I see a building. The address is 8523 [Street]. In 2008, May 23 was the Friday before Memorial Day.

    I needn’t go on. But suffice it to say that I’m kind of weird, in a way that most folks find insanely boring.

    (I do have enough sense not to talk about these things with women.)

    • Replies: @Loosely Speaking
  292. This whole case feels like a tragic theater play.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Anonymous
  293. @Old Palo Altan

    Sandhurst’s record wasn’t exactly spotless either. I’d take two years before the mast over them both.

    • Agree: Old Palo Altan
  294. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    It’s a way of saying, “You killed my kid. Please don’t kill me, too.”

    It’s what cowards and traitors do.

  295. @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    Lacking heroes.

    Comedy on the dark side.

  296. Hiop says:
    @Altai

    ” who always took the side of the underdog ”
    So he actually was for the White man then.

  297. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    This whole case feels like a tragic theater play.

    False flag/patsy operation? The narwhal tusk seemed a little too neat and memorable – perhaps someone went overboard trying to make the meme even more persistent through this interesting “hook” or McGuffin.

    • Replies: @ThirdWorldSteveReader
  298. istevefan says:
    @Stan d Mute

    My thinking is that most White liberals have been brainwashed in a manner akin to someone getting another hooked on drugs. We usually don’t blame the addict, or at least assign him all the blame. The drug dealer is rightly condemned as the scumbag.

    But your analogy with the diseases is pretty good.

  299. BB753 says:
    @They already know what to do

    Fine, but who will they trade with, do business with, sell goods to, etc, when 80 % of the planet turns into a Third World cesspool?

  300. @Jim Don Bob

    OK, thanks, Mr. Bob. I’d thought it was just funny, as in “no issues (problems) becoming dead”.

  301. @Old Palo Altan

    Yes, his father is indeed wretched refuse.

  302. @Stan Adams

    Stan, I have every sympathy for your situation, some aspects of which I have experienced for myself. And I know what a pain advice is. All I can say on that score is that I have at least bettered my state and you can, too.

    First: stop using your superior intellect for pointless games like converting random numbers into dates. You are wasting the gifts you were given.

    Second: use your brains to make some serious money. I’m not suggesting that’s the highest calling in life, but it does open the gate to a lot of other more worthy endeavors. Spend some of the money on good clothes, a good hair style, even (gasp!) surgery to correct any severe faults in your appearance. (They are probably not as bad as you think: poverty and unemployment are turn-offs to women who might otherwise be interested in you, and you may be misinterpreting their reactions as some inherent flaw in your demeanor.)

    Simultaneously: Get involved in activities that offer interaction with other people. I’m not saying you will immediately have enjoyable relationships or friendships as a result. But from how you describe your life, even half-satisfying encounters will be a step up. And you never know: someone might be more compatible than you imagine.

    I don’t recommend joining groups with the sole intent of forming relationships. That almost never works. Join groups organized around something that interests you. If nothing else, they will help take you outside of yourself and give useful experience in relating to others.

    When you’ve done these things, you’ll be able to figure out the rest for yourself.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  303. Anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Also the Gibraltar killings.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  304. NickG says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    The fact that the deceased assassin knew in advance that he could bring lethal weapons into the building says it all.

    The sad thing about this is that lessons will not have been learned.

    A few AR and Glock toting rozzers on site would have helped too, but that would be prohibitively expensive.

  305. NickG says:

    Jack Merritt, poor chap, seems to have taken the bleeding heart liberal trope somewhat literally.

  306. @Desiderius

    Sure. But he is interested in all kinds of subjects and thoughts. – Quite conservative, but high on openness – a miracle of sorts (reminds me of Jünger).

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  307. @Loosely Speaking

    Money is overrated. It comes in handy, no doubt about it. But it can only take you so far.

    The question is, what would I buy with that money? What do I really want?

    Do I want the wife and 2.1 kids, with the attendant obligations – the mortgage, the tuition, the dental visits, the yearly trips to Disney World? Do I want the Manhattan penthouse, the weekend jaunts to Amsterdam, the harem of high-class whores? Do I want a charming little farm in the country? Or do I want a cabin in the woods, a la Ted Kaczynski?

    Honestly, I don’t know.

    I’ve always seen life as little more than a game – and a silly one at that. Going around collecting trophies – the hot wife, the big house, the fast car – can be fun, but do any of those things really matter in the end?

    I have a hard time defining “success,” because I have a hard time deciding what I really want. I don’t want to become a genetic dead end, but do I really want to lug around the baggage of a long-term relationship? Having witnessed the spectacular failures of many of my acquaintances’ and relatives’ marriages – including my parents’ – I’m leery of making a firm commitment to anyone. But there is no reward without risk, is there?

    But is the reward really worth it?

    As I said in another post, my idea of happiness is not needing, wanting, or caring about anything. The less I require, the better.

    Ask for nothing, and ye shall always receive. Expect nothing, and ye shall never be disappointed. Desire nothing, and ye shall always be content.

    (Yeah, I’m a cynic.)

  308. @Jack Henson

    Ah but virtue signalling is all about striking political poses in order to gain status and win approval within a peer group. In this corner of the internet, agreeing with Kylie would have been the way to do that. I didn’t though; I took the more difficult position.

    Why? I guess I’m just more virtuous than most people. Maybe I wasn’t virtue signalling before but now I just did? It’s all “very meta”, as they say.

  309. @Anonymous

    Those were fair play. The PIRA were totally hypocritical to claim that was unsportsmanlike, considering what they got up to.

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
  310. Danindc says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Well said. I would add that they should also spend a majority of their time seeking revenge on the people responsible

  311. Suppose Usman Khan not been killed after being subdued? Isn’t it likely David Merritt would have insisted he receive further rehabilitation, with an eye toward his eventual return to society? After all, it’s what his late son Jack would have wanted and gave his life for. Must not his views take precedence in this instance? To do otherwise would be to trash his memory, to give satisfaction to the disgusting racists and Islamaphobes who would twist this sad tragedy for their own vile purposes.

    In rehabilitation, we understand there is always a risk of relapse; in fact, Alcoholics Anonymous teaches us that “relapse is part of recovery.” So how committed to rehabilitation and recovery can we be if we’re not willing to forgive one little relapse? Surely we must pick ourselves up and recommit ourselves to the rehabilitative process.

  312. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Upon reflection , I think your formulation is closer to the mark. The Gnostic aspect of Wokeness is on the money.

  313. @Dieter Kief

    Most American Conservatives are like that. At least the best ones. Traditions are collections of innovations that have proven themselves.

  314. @J.Ross

    A 200 page pseudoscientific paper on Russian hackers [and an insider claiming that the CIA heard from a panel of experts that “it’s not Russians” and instantly responded “okay, thank you for your efforts, but we’re going to tell everybody it was Russians”] . . . .Where is this discussed?

  315. @J.Ross

    A 200 page pseudoscientific paper on Russian hackers [and an insider claiming that the CIA heard from a panel of experts that “it’s not Russians” and instantly responded “okay, thank you for your efforts, but we’re going to tell everybody it was Russians”] . . . .Where is this discussed?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  316. BB753 says:
    @Anonymous

    Name one member of Fleetwood Mac who’s not a despicable human being. Same with the Mamas and the Papas. I dare you.

  317. @Stan Adams

    Sounds logical. But a bit too logical and maybe a bit too lazy to be fruitful.
    Might well be that life is neither an equation nor a game.

  318. @James N. Kennett

    Dave Merritt’s article is the main story on the front page of today’s Guardian:

    and also, unexpectedly, the Daily Express:

    The Narrative will continue unharmed and unmodified, and it will soon be forgotten that for five minutes it was in mortal danger.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  319. @Anonymous

    False flag/patsy operation?

    It’s not impossible, but I would say it’s just life getting stranger than fiction.

  320. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    Sorry I shouldn’t have brought it up hewre (but there are several wierd innovations in the comment processing) it’s in another thread, but to save you time here is the paper:
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1911.10517.pdf
    The thread, which should be archiced; note the one German who explains how this essentially means they’re idiots who have nothing (IP meant something in 1996):
    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/234960676

    [MORE]

    It’s from an outsider IT guy discussing actual methods of sorting out anonymous commenters (they rely heavily on IP and phrase recognition, so the “Russians” may never have been Rissians anyway).
    Possible larp expert account below more tag. tldr it was established that, contrary to the lyingpress and every expert, there really were folks angry at Obama for more than his skin, that foreigners were exploiting and rebroadcasting these complaints but not originating them, that among the foreigners the Russians were outnumbered by Iranians; this was reported to the CIA and the CIA said thanks but we’re going to tell everyone that it’s Russians, and it’s Russians all the way down.
    [MORE]

    Up until earlier this year I worked as a counter-terrorism researcher out of Benhall GCHQ.

    In 2016 we were briefed on online far-right extremism becoming a threat to national security and I was assigned to a task force made up of various analysts, think tank researchers and sociologists to study the spread of far-right ideology from places like /pol/. Our job was to make a determination on threat category so it could be handled by the relevant authorities.

    The three main lines of inquiry were:

    1. Astroturfing by adversarial nation states to influence elections and/or to spread civil unrest. Countering this would be the job of signals and human intelligence compartments at GCHQ, MI6 and their counterparts in allied nations.
    2. The organic spread of extremist ideology which would require government policy changes to regulate social media, proscription of far-right websites and working with the education sector to create early intervention policies to prevent radicalization of young people and provide counter-narratives through various forms of media.
    3. Corporate conspiracy which can mean a whole manner of scenarios.

    We found evidence of all three. We came to the conclusion that the vast majority of ideas, memes and methods originated on /pol/, that Russian intelligence was mainly regurgitating memes on an inconsequential scale but there was a small but significant level of artificial generation of ideas by several companies here but only one of them, Cambridge Analytica was exposed, because the UK NCA, FCA + US RICO & DoJ stonewalled on more powerful entities.

    MI6 and the CIA became involved and basically attempted to spin 1 & 3 to give the impression that 2 did not exist. After this backfired terribly, things took a very strange turn when we were assigned to work with the US Department of Energy and National Laboratories on what they called Collective Intelligence and C-Factor ranking which focused on studying /pol/.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @James N. Kennett
  321. Jack D says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Stoke-on-Trent was once famous as the base of the English china/pottery industry (as was Trenton, NJ in the US). Even when the potteries were running it was a pretty grim place. I remember I visited a china shop in London about 30 years ago – my wife wanted some pieces to match our china set. The salesman was one of those Indian gents who is more British than the British. Somehow the conversation turned to Stoke-on-Trent and I wondered out loud whether it was possible to visit the factory and perhaps buy factory direct. The salesman (fearing a lost sale, probably) quickly exclaimed, “Oh, no, you don’t want to go there,” and explained that it was kind of grim sooty decayed Victorian sort of industrial city that cultivated people such as ourselves would not enjoy visiting.

    Of course now, it is a grim sooty decayed Victorian sort of POST -industrial city, which is even worse. The company that made our china was sold to an Irish company a few years ago (the world turned upside down) and then closed completely. Young couples getting married (to the extent these even stlll exist) don’t want that kind of formal gold edged bone china anymore. People want much more informal tableware, which is mostly made in low cost countries such as Indonesia.

    However, Stoke-on-Trent itself remain pretty white, although not as white as Cottenham. Trenton, NJ OTOH has few white people left after the state government workers go home at night. The US has a LOT more minorities than the UK but a much higher % of UK minorities are radicalizable Muslims. However, if I had my choice between touring Stoke-on-Trent and touring Trenton I think I’d still pick Stoke.

  322. Jack D says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    In any country that has had a successful leftist Revolution, the last shall be first – the whole point of having a revolution is so that the animals (or at least their leadership) get to sleep in the farmer’s bed. In Communist China, having a “black” (vs. Red) background (being from the landlord class) was an explicit disqualifier for access to higher education or good jobs. In the US today we have a diversity totem pole/ Pokemon points system and the fewest points are assigned to white males.

  323. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    What are those yellow handles (?) they’re all wearing?

  324. @James N. Kennett

    The narrative can’t face mortal danger – not even for five seconds, because it is not about facts; at its core it is about questions of faith in a (highly) complex and at the same time “metaphysically roofless” (Georg Lukács) world.
    (I myself call this narrative a phenomenon of the regressive left (Dave rubin) – and at the same time one of the more striking examples for “The Coddling of the Western Mind“. Commenter Miss Marple at No. 163 above put it this way: It’s all about Bambi! (Sigh).

  325. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    Everyone has their spin. The CIA/Left (the same thing really) want you to believe that 2 does not exist and the alt.right wants you to believe that 1 does not exist. It’s the same with vote fraud or racist nooses. The question is not whether these things exist (they absolutely do in the sense that the # is greater than zero) but how significant are they?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  326. @BB753

    Name one member of Fleetwood Mac who’s not a despicable human being.

    What is despicable about Stevie Nicks?

    • Replies: @BB753
  327. @Stan Adams

    It sounds like you are living the life you choose, then. Maybe you will decide you want something different one of these days. Good luck!

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  328. @Cagey Beast

    Thanks, I should have read Steve’s excerpts more thoroughly. It was in there.

  329. @YetAnotherAnon

    Thanks. I should have read more before I asked that question.

  330. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Russian origination is totally obliterated and Russian churn is meaningless once you have Americans originating those sentiments.

  331. @Anonymous

    Yeah, I know. I was about to write to Alden that this was a Buddy Holly song, but I saw your reply then. She did sing a few Buddy Holly songs*.

    That was a great one by Warren Zevon. I never heard of Terri Clark.

    .

    * Here’s one. Yeah, it’s better with Linda belting out the vocals, but she’s also got 15 years more of that rock sound accumulated behind her.

    Yeah, you were correct, #427, she was hot.

  332. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    “As Big LMM said to the cell phone videographers in Dubai: You are all a bunch of cunts. Go fuck yourselves.”

    What was this?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  333. @Jack D

    You may not remember it Jack, but what must be years ago now, when I first started frequenting this site (before Unz I suspect), you told something like this story and wondered if Stoke might, despite all, be worth a visit. I, who once had reason to visit the place regularly, was quick to advise you to stay very far away from both the town and the region. Some towns ruined by collapsing industry and neglect can still reflect an aura, if not of their past greatness, at least of missed opportunities. In Stoke there is nothing but grey, featureless decay. The people are the same I might add.

    Was the china shop in London the one just down Piccadilly a bit from Fortnum & Mason’s? That’s where I went to do precisely what you did, except I was replacing various pieces for my parent’s 1947 wedding china from Wedgwood. A most beautiful and opulent design, now, along with the equally magnificent silver, in the possession of a sister. I was able to get replacements in around 1982, but not when I tried again ten years later.

    And nowadays the shop itself is long gone.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Desiderius
  334. @Dieter Kief

    Yes, it was just that in Kambartel’s writings (as described by the English wiki article) which piqued my particular interest. I am sorry that there is nothing by him on this topic which you can recommend, so I shall start with Rentsch, and probably with Gott.

    I was puzzled while looking for books by him on Amazon: why does he write so much about being old? The titles make them sound almost like self-help books, which seems odd. Perhaps it’s another Thomas Rentsch?

    I am glad you agree with me about the significant “rightness” of the breakfast scene I described some time ago. I just wonder how much longer it can remain that way as all of those beautiful Munich churches get emptier and emptier, or as the population of Munich gets less and less actually, you know … German.

    It looks like mad Miss Merkel may have to go sooner than she had calculated. She has chosen a nonentity to succeed her though (rather as Thatcher did) so, who knows, apres elle, la deluge (rouge)?

  335. Jack D says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    It’s been so long that I don’t remember exactly where it was. The one thing that I remember was that they packed the china for travel in actual excelsior (which is like wood shavings) and that the process involved wetting the excelsior. This was the one and only time I ever saw it used – even 30 years ago in America they were using foam peanuts or bubble wrap. Nothing broke and we have the pieces to this day.

    There are online retailers that specialize in selling discontinued china and crystal. I’ve also had luck picking up pieces on ebay. Because this stuff is no longer in demand, prices are actually reasonable. So there’s no need to despair even if your china manufacturer sleeps with the fishes.

    Our china only gets used maybe 2 or 3 times per year. I realize that it’s some sort of relic of a bygone era but I have to say that when the table is all set with linen and china and crystal goblets and silver candlesticks, etc. it really looks magnificently civilized.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  336. Your Munich breakfast scene is touchy.

    Thomas did not ride the bike as I do. And he did things I didn’t do. So now he writes about old age… which is brave. Odo Marquart too wrote about getting old, and his essays are quite interesting. Funny now that I think about it, Jünger did not care much about getting old – he just went ahead – beetles and the garden in the morning; a nap in the afternoon, tea with his lady and then – his study and his writing desk. Wilflingen still is a beautiful remote place. Thomas’ Heidegger & Wittgenstein book is quite good too, but he refers to both of them in his Gott book quite a lot,so…. Habermas, who knows him well, did not quote him in his latest book. For some people the ultimate punishment. I hope not for him. As I predicted, Habermas a) writes in extenso about Thomas and Occam – and b) makes no references to Goethe or Faust – except one, in which he concedes, that it was Goethe, who invited Herder to become the Weimarian superintendent. No Jean Paul in Auch eine Geschichte der Philosophie though, which is a pity. Lau Dse was a big surprise for me. even though he did not quite get what Lau Dse is about. But as so often: Even his mistakes are quite decent.

    Jean Paul – Ideengewimmel. – Aphorismen, Noten, Miszellen. Great!

    Man kommt leichter zu jedem andern als zu sich. (No. 1001)

    Wenn ihr die Wirklichkeit so verachtet: seid ihr denn nicht auch wirklich? (No. 1002)

    Wer die Lebendigen nicht erfreuet, darf die Verstorbenen nicht betrauern. (No. 996)

    I pity the poor continents, to paraphrase Bob Dylan from John Wesely Harding, which have to live without this book!

    Best edition is the one from 1996 in Bavarian blue and white, printed with lead letters in Nürtingen by Franz Greno.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  337. @J.Ross

    Up until earlier this year I worked as a counter-terrorism researcher out of Benhall GCHQ.

    In 2016 we were briefed …

    I’ve never met a GCHQ worker who talked about his work. The legal consequences are too serious.

  338. BB753 says:
    @Loosely Speaking

    Everything, starting with her being a self-declared witch.

  339. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Fans in Dubai refused to cease and desist from videoing the band with their cell phone cameras, so Hynde cursed them out and ended the show early.

    Pretenders’ Chrissie Hynde Curses Out Camera-Happy Fans, Walks Offstage In Dubai
    Tom Breihan @tombreihan | October 30, 2017 – 9:21 am

    https://www.stereogum.com/1969497/pretenders-chrissie-hynde-curses-out-camera-happy-fans-walks-offstage-in-dubai/news/

    When new wave legends the Pretenders play live, they post signs asking people in the audience not to use cell phones while they’re onstage. Of course, people don’t comply too often, and last week in Dubai, frontwoman Chrissie Hynde reportedly unloaded on the audience, cursing them out before storming offstage early.

    According to The Sun, Hynde was only a song into the Pretenders’ Thursday night set at Dubai’s Irish Village venue when she called people in the audience “cunts” for recording her. She also told them that she didn’t give a fuck because she already had their money. She also reportedly flipped off phone users and, as she was leaving the stage, “cocked her leg” and told the crowd to “take a picture of that.”

    The National reports that, according to people who were in the crowd on Thursday night, Hynde also told people in the crowd to stick their phones up their ass and informed them that the Pretenders “ain’t Lady Gaga or Katy Perry, so if you wanna use your fucking phones, go and see them.”

    In a post on Facebook earlier this month, Hynde apologized for cussing out fans with phones on a recent UK tour: “I do want to apologise for being a bit of a bitch when it came to camera phones and just being myself in general. As you probably know by now, when i’m not on the stage, i like to retain a very ordinary profile and get embarrassed by uninvited attentions. So if I told anyone to ‘get lost’ – it’s just me being the citizen God intended me to be.”

  340. @Loosely Speaking

    Maybe I will.

    The biggest disappointments in my life have always accompanied my greatest triumphs. I get exactly what I want, and it’s just as wonderful as I dreamed, and everything is absolutely perfect … and then the high wears off and I think, “Well, that’s done. What’s next?”

    None of my successes – and I have had some – have translated into real lasting happiness. I get a temporary boost, and then it’s back to the boredom. Then I’m like a junkie looking for the next fix.

    Think of a kid on Christmas afternoon who’s depressed because he’s already played with all of his new toys and there aren’t any more presents to open. The excitement is gone. But then a thought pops into his head: “Hey, only eight more months till my birthday!”

    Then his birthday comes and the cycle repeats – anticipation, excitement, joy, and then boredom. “Hey, only four more months till Christmas!”

    Again, the cycle repeats.

    After a while, the kid catches on, and his enthusiasm fades. Pretty soon he stops looking forward to Christmas altogether. “Yeah, it’ll be nice to get some presents, but why get so worked up about it? I’ll play with the toys for an hour and then I’ll get bored and put them away. Big deal.”

    Life is like that. The anticipation of something is almost always better than the actual thing itself. Even when reality surpasses expectations, the high only lasts so long.

    So instead of chasing incredible highs and then crashing down to earth, I focus on trying to maintain a stable altitude. It’s the easy way out, even the cowardly way out, but it works well enough.

  341. @Old Palo Altan

    One of the brightest young lads I had the pleasure to know at ManU was from Stoke. Physics major with keen, wide-ranging mind. The very opposite of bleak.

    Unique accent too, IIRC.

  342. @Jack D

    The World Took a lot from poor Trenton.

  343. @Desiderius

    1) I’d be surprised if he went back there permanently.

    2) Exceptions prove the rule.

    3) The accent is what beguiled you.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  344. @Jack D

    I recently had a very valuable antique sent to me from Germany, and water was part of their protective process too.

    Thank you for the tip about picking up odd pieces – I’ll let my sister know.

    She will be getting everything out for a similar scene to the one you so evocatively describe – it is, after all, and if I may say so, quite near to Christmas after all.

  345. @Dieter Kief

    Jünger must have had it right about old age – one doesn’t reach 102 while getting it all wrong.
    Peace and quiet (but also internal) is essential, so perhaps it’s time to copy the superannuated generals (not necessarily French) who used to retire to the Grand Chartreuse and live on for decades.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  346. @Old Palo Altan

    I wasn’t beguiled, he was just a good mate. Lively eyes, like B.B.Warfield.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ni/2010/08/was_bb_warfield_an_evolutionis.html

    Be surprised if he didn’t have deepish roots back home, but of course not many High Energy Physics jobs back home either.

    Sample Size one.

  347. @Old Palo Altan

    The Grand Chartreuse is one of those maybe five buildings that – made it under my skin.

    Just in case – if you don’t know this documentary Die große Stille. You might like it.
    https://www.amazon.de/Die-gro%C3%9Fe-Stille-Philip-Gr%C3%B6ning/dp/B000F2C6NC/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=die+gro%C3%9Fe+stille&qid=1575493495&sr=8-1

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  348. @Desiderius

    One of the brightest young lads I had the pleasure to know at ManU was from Stoke. Physics major with keen, wide-ranging mind. The very opposite of bleak.

    Agreed. The place may be bleak, but there’s nothing wrong with the people.

  349. Lurker says:
    @Rob McX

    In a healthy society he would be back in Pakistan without the slightest expectation of being allowed to live in a white country.

  350. @Dieter Kief

    I’ve owned a copy of that for years.

    What I haven’t done, and want to do, is to spend a week or two there – and then perhaps the rest of my earthly life.

    There’s always the one in Sussex, not to mention (as I have before) the one near Leutkirch im Allgäu.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  351. @Old Palo Altan

    https://www.welt.de/kultur/kunst-und-architektur/gallery131396609/Michael-Ruetz-Projekt-Timescape-817.html

      https://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/fotograf-michael-ruetz-allen-fehlt-die-geduld-1.2058583  

    You did mention Leutkirch once in the context of the Schwäbische Zeitung. This is not Leutkirch, but the Chiemgau is not too far away. Die absolute Landschaft – seen from the same spot – over a stretch of 20 years. The photographer, Michael Ruetz, studied Chinese calligraphy before he took up photography – and is one of the few German artists now willing to talk about God. But only if asked to do so – which did not happen in the SZ nor in Die weLT. His Steidl book Die absolute Landschaft is stunning. I did something comparable, by the way, in Konstanz – over the stretch of 11 years – from 1990 to 2001, also looking south – in my case at the Swiss Seerücken – and the Alps behind it.

    I’m glad to read that you’re still following your adventurous heart!

    I’m planning to watch Die Grosse Stille with a group of people in Konstanz – since two years! (At times I’m quite patient). Might happen in January.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  352. @Dieter Kief

    JWv Goehte (esp. No. 7)

    An Christian Gottfried Daniel Nees von Esenbeck
    [Concept.]

    Ew. Hochwohlgeboren

    erhalten abermals eine mannichfaltige Sendung, damit nur des vielen Guten, was mir vom linken Rheinufer zukommt, einigermaßen erwidert sey.

    1) Zuvörderst also die Revisionsbogen von N und O des wissenschaftlichen Heftes; das Ganze, hoff ich, soll nächstens nachfolgen.

    2) Ein merkwürdiger Ausschnitt unserer neuen meteorologisch-graphischen Darstellung. Wie gehen doch die sämmtlichen, auf die Mittelzahl zurückgebrachten Barometerzüge, wenngleich mit einigem Retardiren, parallel miteinander! wie unabhängig zeigt sich das Barometer vom Thermometer-Stand!

    3) Dürft ich ersuchen, die Anzeige des neusten Heftes zu Kenntniß des Publicums zu bringen. Haben wir uns doch alle bemüht es achtbar zu machen.

    4) Herrn Beer, den ich schönstens zu grüßen bitte, interessirt wohl unmittelbar mit Augen zu sehen, wie man sein Trauerspiel in Weimar vorbereitet und aufgeführt hat; man wünscht die Schauspieler werden sie immer noch wünschenswerther machen; die Decoration durch Gunst des Herrn Grafen Brühl, völlig nach[11] der berlinischen, verdiente zu Anfang und zu Ende allen Beyfall.

    5) Auch hab ich in der Zeit von Herrn Zanoli die recht im eigentlichen Charakter des Scherzes ausgefertigten Maskenbilder dankbar empfangen. Ich bin neugierig, wie die werthen Kölner ihre Scherze steigern.

    6) Und nun noch einen Dank für die Anzeige Brownischer Werke; es wird mich sehr freuen ihn näher kennen zu lernen, daß er von allen Kennern hoch geschätzt wird.

    7) Und in allem diesen wissenschaftlich-ästhetischen, humoristischen Treiben überschwemmen uns schon wieder die Kiesbäche, Flüßchen und Flüsse. Auch anderes gibt der Welt Apprehension und da thut man am besten sich für einen Karthäuser zu erklären und seine Brüder in den heiteren Klosterhallen mit einem wohlgemeynten memento vivere zu begrüßen.

    Eckermann, welcher jetzt mehrere Engländer in die deutsche Sprache und Literatur einführt, ist auf gutem Wege, guter Dinge, er empfiehlt sich so angelegentlich als redlich.

    Und so empfiehlt sich Gegenwärtiges, retardirt und übereilt nach gewöhnlicher Correlation zum allerschönsten.

    Weimar den 12. November 1824.[12]

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