The Unz Review - Mobile
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 iSteve BlogTeasers
It's Time to Enforce Anti-KKK Laws Against Masked Vigilantes
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments

A pro-free speech march in Berkeley today was attacked by masked anti-free speech thugs. Some of the hard men among the marchers struck back, with some wearing masks themselves to duke it out with the anti-fa vigilantes. Not surprisingly, the rightists appeared to get the best of the ensuing donnybrook with the leftists.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions should come down hard on the mayor of Berkeley and the governor of California for not ordering law enforcement to protect the rights of peaceful protesters from assault. A pattern of official tolerance of illegal violence against citizens engaging in their right of assembly has emerged in Northern California going back to the assault on the Trump rally in San Jose last year, with very few arrests of members of semi-organized mobs of masked blackshirts.

Many states have laws against using a mask to get away with intimidation and/or breaking the law. The Justice Department should demand that all relevant laws be enforced to protect freedom of expression from violence.

Screenshot 2017-04-15 17.50.22

 
    []
  1. Kevin C. says:

    Plenty of talk about what Sessions and the Justice Department should do, but there’s no way in h*** they’re ever going to do it. These laws may be on the books, but there’s simply no way to ever get them enforced in the manner called for here.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Jack ryan
    Jeff Sessions is good very solid

    But Trump s Secretary of education ....

    A girl
    , @Erik L
    Really? Seems to me this is the kind of law that is pretty easy to enforce. The violators are obvious, tend to be on camera and surrounded by cops as they are doing it. If the local cops refuse to enforce it there is precedent for the federal executive branch stepping in to protect civil rights.

    The only real difficulty I see is lack of mainstream media support but that could actually be kind of funny
    , @MarkinLA
    http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2012/05/antifa-terrorists-launch-unprovoked.html

    In the aftermath of this, some of these punks actually were convicted and set to prison.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc.
    AgreeDisagreeLOLTroll
    These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Troll, or LOL with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used once per hour.
    Sharing Comment via Twitter
    /isteve/its-time-to-enforce-anti-kkk-laws-against-masked-vigilantes/#comment-1838469
    More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  2. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s not the KKK, it’s the FeyFeyFey! Or is it the FayFayFay?

    Read More
  3. On the plus side, Richard Spencer has finally been avenged.

    Good Night Left Side!

    Read More
    • Replies: @Hail
    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/853427147796512768

    Some commentary:
    https://twitter.com/seek1st/status/853422217195114496
    https://twitter.com/McPromize_AFC/status/853417956394577922
    https://twitter.com/DBellphork/status/853419200244621313
    https://twitter.com/darthomanizor/status/853425950481981440
    https://twitter.com/TrackTopicM/status/853412818707787776

    Every left-wing agitator, though, has undergone a miraculous conversion to Victorian High Moralist. An Easter miracle!
  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    OT

    Pepsi’s social justice protest commercial actually polled well, especially with the ascendant PoC it depicted:

    Masked antifa at Berkeley taking a moment to enjoy some delicious globojuice:

    Read More
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Funny. After a hard day's revolticizing against capitalism, they refresh themselves with some corporate corn-sugar-water, courtesy of PepsiCo and ADM.
  5. Zoodles says:

    From what i have heard, Antifa got their ass beaten today and they know it. they were driven out of the park, and through the streets.

    Read More
  6. TheBoom says:

    I have no idea why but this is the type of thing that is not on Trump’s or Sessions’ radar. They have left Trump’s supporters to fend for themselves. Antifa should be declared a terrorist group and the National Guard sent in to protect people from Antifa if states and cities don’t get on top of it.

    On the other hand, maybe if we get a sad pic of a beaten older person to Ivanka it may become an issue.

    Read More
    • Replies: @dfordoom

    On the other hand, maybe if we get a sad pic of a beaten older person to Ivanka it may become an issue.
     
    Ivanka is a liberal. Sad pictures of beaten white people won't upset her. She's more likely to cry at sad pictures of antifa thugs getting beaten.
  7. Dunno if this is sarcasm or naivete

    Of course the organs of state security allow the left to get away with anything up to and sometimes including murder while right of center types must apologize for their mere existence

    anything else would be raciss, homophobic or sexist or some combination thereof

    Read More
    • Agree: MBlanc46, Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    The action of the Berkeley Police- disarming those opposed to the regime and then vanishing, gives the lie to those morons who claim that the pigs are on the side of the Right.

    The Filth are on their own side and that means doing what their paymasters say, and if that involves victimizing those they allegedly agree with, that's just life.
  8. Cagey Beast says: • Website

    The Right have been very, very patient over the last year. Trump supporters have met the Left’s violence, and calls for violence, with good humour and the minimal amount of self-defence almost every time.

    The Establishment loves violence. Look how they celebrate antifa and BLM violence in the West and Trump’s sudden embrace of bombing overseas. They’re toxic people.

    Read More
  9. Hail says: • Website

    Who decides whom to prosecute for a political streetfight? Plenty of the fighters are identifiable on video.

    Read More
  10. Antifa activists – a serious threat, or useful idiots?

    I would say they’re a localised threat. They certainly help to reinforce PC on college campuses, but they also drive moderate voters to the right. They also lack the numbers to have much influence at the national level.

    Read More
    • Replies: @NOTA
    Every night, Donald Trump *prays* for more masked thugs to riot, asssault, and burn things protesting him and people associated with him. If he could get away with it, he'd *pay* them to do it, because there is nothing on Earth that is more likely to give him two terms in the White House.
  11. Hail says: • Website

    Nathan Damigo was an organizer of the right-wing counter-demonstration. His group among others defeated the antifa so thoroughly that they took all their banners, a time-honored tradition of the victors in combat…

    Read More
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    "Well that escalated quickly."
    , @TomSchmidt
    Ha! That's great.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    These protests, counter protests and street fights need background music and I offer the overture from the "West Side Story.."
  12. Dr. X says:

    The Justice Department should demand that all relevant laws be enforced to protect freedom of expression from violence.

    Yeah, right. When pigs fly.

    “Civil rights” are for minorities only. “Civil rights” laws do not apply to conservatives or to white men. They’ll apply anti-Klan laws to minorities and leftists the same way they charge blacks with “hate crimes” for perpetrating heinous crimes against whites — almost never.

    People are going to need to wake up. Whites have no civil rights or constitutional rights any more. Marcuse’s concept of “repressive tolerance” has been completely internalized by the legal establishment and by Federal law enforcement. The “equal protection” clause of the 14th Amendment de facto means that minorities and leftists get preferential treatment and white conservatives get shafted.

    Read More
    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Rod1963
    "when pigs fly" is quite apt.

    Civil Rights are only for minorities, not conservatives or straight white men. Look at all the major civil rights groups - NAACP, ADL, ACLU. All of them are virulently anti-Christian and anti-white.

    Also at play is that the cities where the anti-fa are strong are liberal run cities with a liberal mayor who often appoints a liberal chief of police to do his bidding and you can be damn sure, he'll let anti-fa do it's thing as long they beat up conservative whites.

    People are going to need to wake up. Whites have no civil rights or constitutional rights any more. Marcuse’s concept of “repressive tolerance” has been completely internalized by the legal establishment and by Federal law enforcement
     
    Quite true. Whites are only tolerated if they keep their mouths shut and do as they are told like good little wage slaves. The first amendment doesn't exist for us unless we only mouth approved platitudes. The 2nd is just hanging on by a thread. God help them if the organize a protest against Islam or if they try and form ethnic advocacy groups like LaRaza for whites or whites only fraternal orders, etc. Anything that smacks of self-organizing will bring the weight of the state and federal government down on them.
  13. Hail says: • Website

    Best short video (4 min.) of the streetfighting is here. The nationalist fighters win decisively, at least at that area at that time. It would seem the antifa reputation for person physical cowardice is again confirmed.

    A punch thrown by Damigo (about :30 here) has become a Twitter meme.

    Read More
    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    Best short video (4 min.) of the streetfighting is here.

    There are more "photographers" than protesters and counter-protesters.
    , @BB753
    Good to see the Right has also boots on the ground. One day, these skirmishes might turn out ugly though. And we know whose side the police is on.
  14. kihowi says:

    Expect journalists to rediscover the phrase “political violence” now that nationalists are punching back.

    Read More
  15. Hail says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin
    On the plus side, Richard Spencer has finally been avenged.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9fgqXbXUAAOWpF.jpg

    Good Night Left Side!

    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    Some commentary:

    Read More
    • Replies: @Yak-15
    Equality to play pretend soldier and get the bennies but inequality to duck actual physical violence.

    Form all women special forces and send them into Syria to show ISIS how tough women can be.

    , @Hail
    (Wild formatting error, seemingly at random. I just posted Twitter URLs as usual. What's going on?)
    , @Anonymous
    https://youtu.be/NLr19u_KQK4?t=43
    , @BenKenobi
    Oh and even more fun!

    Check out the thread in the twitter post (Hail. #15) -- Turns out this young woman is also a nude "hairy" model, going by the nomme-du-vag Venus Gonsales. There's also a nice collage of pics of her before and after her antifa transformation.

    Top Kek all around!
    , @BB753
    If you don't act like a lady, don't expect to be treated like one.
    , @Prof. Woland
    At about one minute into the four minute video above, you can see her crying. I guess she felt overwhelmed.
  16. eah says:

    The alt-right organizing for self-defense and then beating the shit out of them when attacked works too.

    Read More
  17. Rod1963 says:
    @Dr. X

    The Justice Department should demand that all relevant laws be enforced to protect freedom of expression from violence.
     
    Yeah, right. When pigs fly.

    "Civil rights" are for minorities only. "Civil rights" laws do not apply to conservatives or to white men. They'll apply anti-Klan laws to minorities and leftists the same way they charge blacks with "hate crimes" for perpetrating heinous crimes against whites -- almost never.

    People are going to need to wake up. Whites have no civil rights or constitutional rights any more. Marcuse's concept of "repressive tolerance" has been completely internalized by the legal establishment and by Federal law enforcement. The "equal protection" clause of the 14th Amendment de facto means that minorities and leftists get preferential treatment and white conservatives get shafted.

    “when pigs fly” is quite apt.

    Civil Rights are only for minorities, not conservatives or straight white men. Look at all the major civil rights groups – NAACP, ADL, ACLU. All of them are virulently anti-Christian and anti-white.

    Also at play is that the cities where the anti-fa are strong are liberal run cities with a liberal mayor who often appoints a liberal chief of police to do his bidding and you can be damn sure, he’ll let anti-fa do it’s thing as long they beat up conservative whites.

    People are going to need to wake up. Whites have no civil rights or constitutional rights any more. Marcuse’s concept of “repressive tolerance” has been completely internalized by the legal establishment and by Federal law enforcement

    Quite true. Whites are only tolerated if they keep their mouths shut and do as they are told like good little wage slaves. The first amendment doesn’t exist for us unless we only mouth approved platitudes. The 2nd is just hanging on by a thread. God help them if the organize a protest against Islam or if they try and form ethnic advocacy groups like LaRaza for whites or whites only fraternal orders, etc. Anything that smacks of self-organizing will bring the weight of the state and federal government down on them.

    Read More
  18. Hail says: • Website

    Memed:

    Read More
  19. Spyder says:

    Hey, if she wants to get into the rough and tumble with men maybe expect some equality to come back at you.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    https://twitter.com/PotluckPolitico/status/853442921114324992
    , @Buck Turgidson
    (feminist) women want to be men, until they don't
  20. Cagey Beast says: • Website

    The MAGA hat team looks like an odd mix of people. Diversity in action.

    Read More
  21. Yak-15 says:
    @Hail
    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/853427147796512768

    Some commentary:
    https://twitter.com/seek1st/status/853422217195114496
    https://twitter.com/McPromize_AFC/status/853417956394577922
    https://twitter.com/DBellphork/status/853419200244621313
    https://twitter.com/darthomanizor/status/853425950481981440
    https://twitter.com/TrackTopicM/status/853412818707787776

    Every left-wing agitator, though, has undergone a miraculous conversion to Victorian High Moralist. An Easter miracle!

    Equality to play pretend soldier and get the bennies but inequality to duck actual physical violence.

    Form all women special forces and send them into Syria to show ISIS how tough women can be.

    Read More
    • Replies: @jtgw
    Progressive ideology in a nutshell. All the privileges and freedoms of adulthood with none of the responsibilities.
  22. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail
    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/853427147796512768

    Some commentary:
    https://twitter.com/seek1st/status/853422217195114496
    https://twitter.com/McPromize_AFC/status/853417956394577922
    https://twitter.com/DBellphork/status/853419200244621313
    https://twitter.com/darthomanizor/status/853425950481981440
    https://twitter.com/TrackTopicM/status/853412818707787776

    Every left-wing agitator, though, has undergone a miraculous conversion to Victorian High Moralist. An Easter miracle!

    (Wild formatting error, seemingly at random. I just posted Twitter URLs as usual. What’s going on?)

    Read More
  23. BenKenobi says:
    @Hail
    Nathan Damigo was an organizer of the right-wing counter-demonstration. His group among others defeated the antifa so thoroughly that they took all their banners, a time-honored tradition of the victors in combat...

    https://twitter.com/NathanDamigo/status/853321034249814016

    “Well that escalated quickly.”

    Read More
    • Replies: @Hail
    We all know that they will have started it. They always do. (The prerogative of all are extralegal enforcers of a ruling system). I think media coverage has been "pro-Trump groups and anti-Trump groups clash" which, at least, doesn't blame the 'pro-Trump groups'...
  24. You people breathlessly insisting whites are doomed should probably realise that because YOU think the height of allowable resistance is a pithy blog post doesn’t mean others think the same way.

    Read More
    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Kevin C.
    It's not about what resistance is "allowable", it's that whatever level of force we "resist" with, they can bring much more. Do the names "Waco, TX" and "Branch Davidian" mean anything to you? Do you know what happened to the "Bonus Army" in 1932?
  25. Jack ryan says: • Website
    @Kevin C.
    Plenty of talk about what Sessions and the Justice Department should do, but there's no way in h*** they're ever going to do it. These laws may be on the books, but there's simply no way to ever get them enforced in the manner called for here.

    Jeff Sessions is good very solid

    But Trump s Secretary of education ….

    A girl

    Read More
  26. Cagey Beast says: • Website

    OT but not really. Where’s all the hard feelings coming from? Weird:

    Maine Democrats Filmed Laughing Over Rise In White Male Suicides
    “Maybe I shouldn’t say that out in public.”

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56598

    Read More
    • Replies: @Ivy
    Cracks in the thin veneer of civilization. So hard to build a civilized world, so easy to forget that, or never learn it, and then wonder why maintenance is hard, costly and necessary.
  27. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Antifa… athletics for dorks who can’t do sports?

    So, they wear masks and act tough?

    Read More
  28. Hail says: • Website
    @BenKenobi
    "Well that escalated quickly."

    We all know that they will have started it. They always do. (The prerogative of all are extralegal enforcers of a ruling system). I think media coverage has been “pro-Trump groups and anti-Trump groups clash” which, at least, doesn’t blame the ‘pro-Trump groups’…

    Read More
  29. NOTA says:
    @unpc downunder
    Antifa activists - a serious threat, or useful idiots?

    I would say they're a localised threat. They certainly help to reinforce PC on college campuses, but they also drive moderate voters to the right. They also lack the numbers to have much influence at the national level.

    Every night, Donald Trump *prays* for more masked thugs to riot, asssault, and burn things protesting him and people associated with him. If he could get away with it, he’d *pay* them to do it, because there is nothing on Earth that is more likely to give him two terms in the White House.

    Read More
  30. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Hail
    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/853427147796512768

    Some commentary:
    https://twitter.com/seek1st/status/853422217195114496
    https://twitter.com/McPromize_AFC/status/853417956394577922
    https://twitter.com/DBellphork/status/853419200244621313
    https://twitter.com/darthomanizor/status/853425950481981440
    https://twitter.com/TrackTopicM/status/853412818707787776

    Every left-wing agitator, though, has undergone a miraculous conversion to Victorian High Moralist. An Easter miracle!
    Read More
  31. John Derbyshire has some interesting observations, quoting George Orwell, about differing perceptions of law and law enforcement. Clearly the California authorities are on the side of enforcing laws that enable their side to win. Steve has the Anglo-Celtic idea that law ought to apply to everyone–that just isn’t universal.

    Glad to see our side fighting back and winning. But I predict arrests and prosecutions of our side–that’s not the result the Berkely and California authorities want.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Steve has the Anglo-Celtic idea that law ought to apply to everyone–that just isn’t universal.
     
    Jim Crow sheriffs were plenty Anglo-Celtic. They just hated outside agitators more than they loved the law. Same shit current year in Berkeley.
  32. J1234 says:

    Laws Against Masked Vigilantes

    The only thing I’ll be covering up is my licensed .45 ACP. Don’t worry, I avoid trouble, and won’t be going to any Trump rallies until he stops bombing other countries.

    HAPPY EASTER!

    Read More
    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Your comment makes me wonder just how long it will be in the street fighting scene before someone notices that guns are really useful items--they deliver a blow more powerful than that of any hand-held weapon, and can do so repeatedly and from a distance.

    Note, moderator--I am not advocating armed combat, but just predicting that it's a likely escalation.
  33. @Diversity Heretic
    John Derbyshire has some interesting observations, quoting George Orwell, about differing perceptions of law and law enforcement. Clearly the California authorities are on the side of enforcing laws that enable their side to win. Steve has the Anglo-Celtic idea that law ought to apply to everyone--that just isn't universal.

    Glad to see our side fighting back and winning. But I predict arrests and prosecutions of our side--that's not the result the Berkely and California authorities want.

    Steve has the Anglo-Celtic idea that law ought to apply to everyone–that just isn’t universal.

    Jim Crow sheriffs were plenty Anglo-Celtic. They just hated outside agitators more than they loved the law. Same shit current year in Berkeley.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    You make an excellent point--thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.
  34. slumber_j says:

    It only just occurred to me that the expression “antifa” must be derived from–or I guess be wordplay on–a less-used Spanish word for mask. The normal word is máscara, but for the KKK-style hood/mask deployed in e.g. Seville Holy Week penitent marches, the word is antifaz.

    I must be getting slow, literally: otherwise I can’t see how this insight eluded me for so long.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Actually, the hoods worn during Holy Week are known as capirotes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote
    , @Almost Missouri
    I think "antifa" is short for "anti-fascist". Nevermind that the antifa are basically fascist themselves. I think the term originated in continental Europe in the late 20th century as a self-applied moniker for youth mobs who attacked fringe minorities they didn't like with the tacit endorsement of the leftist governments.
    , @Stealth
    Antifascist.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    It's a German thing.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#Germany:_Cold_War_.22anti-fascism.22_and_after
    with roots going back to this lot
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction
    and the autonomes (Italy).
    (And good ole Operation Gladio, for those partial to the Alcan beret.
    https://libcom.org/library/advisory-concerning-spectacular-terrorism)
  35. @Desiderius

    Steve has the Anglo-Celtic idea that law ought to apply to everyone–that just isn’t universal.
     
    Jim Crow sheriffs were plenty Anglo-Celtic. They just hated outside agitators more than they loved the law. Same shit current year in Berkeley.

    You make an excellent point–thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Heh.

    Not my point, but perhaps you knew that.

    You do you.
    , @Anonymous

    You make an excellent point–thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.
     
    This is a pretty good summation of reality.
    , @Corvinus
    "Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline."

    What required discipline were for southrons to have followed through with "separate but equal" as explained by the Justices by the Plessy case. They couldn't even get that right! Thankfully, white southerners got tired of being labeled anti-white by southrons merely for exercising their liberty to freely associate with black people.

    Now, on the issue that Mr. Sailer brings forward, indeed, law enforcement should employ the current laws to arrest anyone who wears a mask to a demonstration. That even includes your relatives, Diversity Heretic.

  36. Spyder says:

    Christ is this comment board filled with nuts.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    Mmm, not really. Thanks for asking though. Yours, JC.
    , @Joe Schmoe

    Christ is this comment board filled with nuts.

     

    Well, you are here.
  37. @J1234

    Laws Against Masked Vigilantes
     
    The only thing I'll be covering up is my licensed .45 ACP. Don't worry, I avoid trouble, and won't be going to any Trump rallies until he stops bombing other countries.

    HAPPY EASTER!

    Your comment makes me wonder just how long it will be in the street fighting scene before someone notices that guns are really useful items–they deliver a blow more powerful than that of any hand-held weapon, and can do so repeatedly and from a distance.

    Note, moderator–I am not advocating armed combat, but just predicting that it’s a likely escalation.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Do note that we never see any antifa activity in states like Texas, which have concealed carry laws.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Now that the Antifa sissies see that they lose decisively as soon as the patriots punch back, how long before they escalate to knives and bats? Or one of them finds a gun somewhere? The Antifa don't fear escalation because they know they can count on their government patrons not to prosecute them while prosecuting their intended victims to the max.

    I still don't think civil war is the necessary end game, but the Progs are doing everything right if they want to bring that about...
  38. @Hail
    Best short video (4 min.) of the streetfighting is here. The nationalist fighters win decisively, at least at that area at that time. It would seem the antifa reputation for person physical cowardice is again confirmed.

    https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/853357314127953924

    A punch thrown by Damigo (about :30 here) has become a Twitter meme.

    Best short video (4 min.) of the streetfighting is here.

    There are more “photographers” than protesters and counter-protesters.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Lurker
    Most of these events are like that. Everyone standing around waiting for someone else to do something so they can film it.
  39. map says:

    These states are in rebellion, especially the government. Citizens are being held hostage by these unlawful policies.

    Read More
  40. @slumber_j
    It only just occurred to me that the expression "antifa" must be derived from--or I guess be wordplay on--a less-used Spanish word for mask. The normal word is máscara, but for the KKK-style hood/mask deployed in e.g. Seville Holy Week penitent marches, the word is antifaz.

    I must be getting slow, literally: otherwise I can't see how this insight eluded me for so long.

    Actually, the hoods worn during Holy Week are known as capirotes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote

    Read More
  41. @Diversity Heretic
    Your comment makes me wonder just how long it will be in the street fighting scene before someone notices that guns are really useful items--they deliver a blow more powerful than that of any hand-held weapon, and can do so repeatedly and from a distance.

    Note, moderator--I am not advocating armed combat, but just predicting that it's a likely escalation.

    Do note that we never see any antifa activity in states like Texas, which have concealed carry laws.

    Read More
  42. @Diversity Heretic
    Your comment makes me wonder just how long it will be in the street fighting scene before someone notices that guns are really useful items--they deliver a blow more powerful than that of any hand-held weapon, and can do so repeatedly and from a distance.

    Note, moderator--I am not advocating armed combat, but just predicting that it's a likely escalation.

    Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Now that the Antifa sissies see that they lose decisively as soon as the patriots punch back, how long before they escalate to knives and bats? Or one of them finds a gun somewhere? The Antifa don’t fear escalation because they know they can count on their government patrons not to prosecute them while prosecuting their intended victims to the max.

    I still don’t think civil war is the necessary end game, but the Progs are doing everything right if they want to bring that about…

    Read More
    • Replies: @Boomstick
    The antifa leadership is probably fine with armed violence. In the Bay Area the anarchists and the Revolutionary Communist Party have shared tactics right now, though they also have differing politics. One of their common goals is corrupting the idea of a lawful and well-policed state, and street violence is a great way to achieve that. They have a membership of easily stirred up idiots and telling them Trump supporters are fascists is a good way to get a street fight going, and that can be used to escalate to higher levels of violence. It's pretty obvious that the local politicians thought the black bloc was going to beat up the Trumpists yesterday, as they did at the Milo event, so they told the police to not get involved. Perhaps if the rightists make a habit of beating the antifas they'll tell the police to exclusively arrest the Trumpists.

    On the right side of the spectrum being attacked by leftists for stating opinions held by half the nation is great theater. It's constitutionally protected speech, too.

    There was an armed march by antifas at the Arizona state capitol a couple weeks ago:

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/03/26/far-left-activists-hold-armed-march-in-phoenix/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H58Voqb7jik
    , @Kevin C.

    I still don’t think civil war is the necessary end game, but the Progs are doing everything right if they want to bring that about…
     
    In my experience, I think civil war is indeed the endgame sought by at least some Progs, because they think they'll win it handily (and based on what I see, they have very good reasons for thinking that).
  43. sondjata says:

    I agree with the author but I want to add that the escalation here should worry a lot of people. It wasn’t just the fisticuffs, it was the presence of “bombs” in the form of M80s going off. This is a significant “level up” from the usual sticks and mace. I am certain that unless the law is harshly enforced, there will be gunfire.

    People familiar with American history knows the whole Crispus Attucks incident that precipitated the American revolution. I think we are inching towards such an event. People might scoff at the whole civil war comparisons but I think it’s far more likely than people think.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "People familiar with American history knows the whole Crispus Attucks incident that precipitated the American revolution."

    I don't believe the Boston massacre precipitated the American revolution, or had much to do with it at all. It happened five years before Lexington-Concord. I think that it was probably just retconned into the narrative in subsequent years.
  44. @slumber_j
    It only just occurred to me that the expression "antifa" must be derived from--or I guess be wordplay on--a less-used Spanish word for mask. The normal word is máscara, but for the KKK-style hood/mask deployed in e.g. Seville Holy Week penitent marches, the word is antifaz.

    I must be getting slow, literally: otherwise I can't see how this insight eluded me for so long.

    I think “antifa” is short for “anti-fascist”. Nevermind that the antifa are basically fascist themselves. I think the term originated in continental Europe in the late 20th century as a self-applied moniker for youth mobs who attacked fringe minorities they didn’t like with the tacit endorsement of the leftist governments.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I think “antifa” is short for “anti-fascist”. Nevermind that the antifa are basically fascist themselves.'

    No, they basically aren't. Someday they might meet real fascists, and they'll learn what that word really means.
  45. @Hail
    Nathan Damigo was an organizer of the right-wing counter-demonstration. His group among others defeated the antifa so thoroughly that they took all their banners, a time-honored tradition of the victors in combat...

    https://twitter.com/NathanDamigo/status/853321034249814016

    Ha! That’s great.

    Read More
  46. @Diversity Heretic
    You make an excellent point--thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.

    Heh.

    Not my point, but perhaps you knew that.

    You do you.

    Read More
  47. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    How many of the combatants are government infiltrators? A lot, probably, especially when one looks at the past history of government involvement in these things. Particularly the ones who initiate an action that touches off some action are likely candidates.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Boomstick
    On the Black Bloc side? Probably not a lot. If the government had infiltrated them they could have rolled up the Black Bloc in the wake of the Milo event or a couple Trump rallies. The Black Bloc are frequent rioters in the Bay Area and the government has never done anything to take them down as a group.
  48. Lurker says:
    @E. Rekshun
    Best short video (4 min.) of the streetfighting is here.

    There are more "photographers" than protesters and counter-protesters.

    Most of these events are like that. Everyone standing around waiting for someone else to do something so they can film it.

    Read More
  49. Erik L says:
    @Kevin C.
    Plenty of talk about what Sessions and the Justice Department should do, but there's no way in h*** they're ever going to do it. These laws may be on the books, but there's simply no way to ever get them enforced in the manner called for here.

    Really? Seems to me this is the kind of law that is pretty easy to enforce. The violators are obvious, tend to be on camera and surrounded by cops as they are doing it. If the local cops refuse to enforce it there is precedent for the federal executive branch stepping in to protect civil rights.

    The only real difficulty I see is lack of mainstream media support but that could actually be kind of funny

    Read More
    • Replies: @Kevin C.
    It's not about being "easy" or "hard" to enforce, it's about the willingness to enforce it. There may be "precedent" for the federal executive branch to intervene, but they're never going to actually do it. Because the Executive Branch — that is to say, the parts that actually rule and actually matter, the permanent people who go on as they always do no matter who the temporary (figure-head) occupant of the White House is — is on the side of the people against whom you're seeking enforcement. They will never enforce these laws in this direction because they will never want to.
    , @Escher
    Unsurprisingly, this news article on the BBC does not indicate who started the violence.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39612785
  50. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL0ipXUD-uU

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warriors_(film)#Critical_reception

    Weird:

    “President Ronald Reagan was a fan of the film, even calling the film’s lead actor, Michael Beck, to tell him he had screened it at Camp David and enjoyed it.”

    Read More
    • Replies: @anon
    “President Ronald Reagan was a fan of the film, even calling the film’s lead actor, Michael Beck, to tell him he had screened it at Camp David and enjoyed it.”

    Well, now I want to know what he thought about Streets Of Fire.
  51. Mr. Anon says:

    Street-fighting men having it out at protests is all part of the Weimarization of America. It’s here to stay. One may as well get used to it.

    Read More
    • Replies: @res
    After all the comments over the past year about Hitler and 1930's Germany this incident is the first which really makes me wonder if we are on that road. I think it's worth remembering that the "good people" in those days were the ones keeping their heads down while the Nazis and Communists fought it out. And nobody came out of that history looking good.
    , @The True and Original David
    The final solution of this problem will come only when most of the gangs on one side unite and beat to a pulp the gangs on the other side and then win some national elections.

    Can MAGA happen within the System? It may be the case that a return to the politics of 1776 - i.e. don't debate, just get some tar and feathers - will become possible. The Bourgeoisie oppose that because it may mean broken shop windows.

  52. Mr. Anon says:
    @Almost Missouri
    I think "antifa" is short for "anti-fascist". Nevermind that the antifa are basically fascist themselves. I think the term originated in continental Europe in the late 20th century as a self-applied moniker for youth mobs who attacked fringe minorities they didn't like with the tacit endorsement of the leftist governments.

    “I think “antifa” is short for “anti-fascist”. Nevermind that the antifa are basically fascist themselves.’

    No, they basically aren’t. Someday they might meet real fascists, and they’ll learn what that word really means.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vJRUhXaavs
    , @Almost Missouri
    Granted that the antifa are not as skilled or disciplined as more famous fascists, such as the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento or Hitler's SA, but as far as the basic ingredients of fascism:

    • reject free and open debate, CHECK

    • use of violence to intimidate political opponents, CHECK

    • submerge individual identities in group culture, however counter-reality, CHECK

    • wear uniform clothing, if not quite uniforms, CHECK

    they're all there.
  53. Mr. Anon says:
    @sondjata
    I agree with the author but I want to add that the escalation here should worry a lot of people. It wasn't just the fisticuffs, it was the presence of "bombs" in the form of M80s going off. This is a significant "level up" from the usual sticks and mace. I am certain that unless the law is harshly enforced, there will be gunfire.

    People familiar with American history knows the whole Crispus Attucks incident that precipitated the American revolution. I think we are inching towards such an event. People might scoff at the whole civil war comparisons but I think it's far more likely than people think.

    “People familiar with American history knows the whole Crispus Attucks incident that precipitated the American revolution.”

    I don’t believe the Boston massacre precipitated the American revolution, or had much to do with it at all. It happened five years before Lexington-Concord. I think that it was probably just retconned into the narrative in subsequent years.

    Read More
  54. BenKenobi says:
    @Hail
    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/853427147796512768

    Some commentary:
    https://twitter.com/seek1st/status/853422217195114496
    https://twitter.com/McPromize_AFC/status/853417956394577922
    https://twitter.com/DBellphork/status/853419200244621313
    https://twitter.com/darthomanizor/status/853425950481981440
    https://twitter.com/TrackTopicM/status/853412818707787776

    Every left-wing agitator, though, has undergone a miraculous conversion to Victorian High Moralist. An Easter miracle!

    Oh and even more fun!

    Check out the thread in the twitter post (Hail. #15) — Turns out this young woman is also a nude “hairy” model, going by the nomme-du-vag Venus Gonsales. There’s also a nice collage of pics of her before and after her antifa transformation.

    Top Kek all around!

    Read More
  55. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    OT

    Pepsi's social justice protest commercial actually polled well, especially with the ascendant PoC it depicted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9Ov6fhWAAEevgb.jpg

    Masked antifa at Berkeley taking a moment to enjoy some delicious globojuice: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9e-01tVoAEPI7z.jpg

    Funny. After a hard day’s revolticizing against capitalism, they refresh themselves with some corporate corn-sugar-water, courtesy of PepsiCo and ADM.

    Read More
  56. Boomstick says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Now that the Antifa sissies see that they lose decisively as soon as the patriots punch back, how long before they escalate to knives and bats? Or one of them finds a gun somewhere? The Antifa don't fear escalation because they know they can count on their government patrons not to prosecute them while prosecuting their intended victims to the max.

    I still don't think civil war is the necessary end game, but the Progs are doing everything right if they want to bring that about...

    The antifa leadership is probably fine with armed violence. In the Bay Area the anarchists and the Revolutionary Communist Party have shared tactics right now, though they also have differing politics. One of their common goals is corrupting the idea of a lawful and well-policed state, and street violence is a great way to achieve that. They have a membership of easily stirred up idiots and telling them Trump supporters are fascists is a good way to get a street fight going, and that can be used to escalate to higher levels of violence. It’s pretty obvious that the local politicians thought the black bloc was going to beat up the Trumpists yesterday, as they did at the Milo event, so they told the police to not get involved. Perhaps if the rightists make a habit of beating the antifas they’ll tell the police to exclusively arrest the Trumpists.

    On the right side of the spectrum being attacked by leftists for stating opinions held by half the nation is great theater. It’s constitutionally protected speech, too.

    There was an armed march by antifas at the Arizona state capitol a couple weeks ago:

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/03/26/far-left-activists-hold-armed-march-in-phoenix/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H58Voqb7jik

    Read More
    • Replies: @Kevin C.

    The antifa leadership is probably fine with armed violence.
     
    Because they expect to win it, thanks to having the Federal juggernaut and all it's loyal minions on their side.

    Perhaps if the rightists make a habit of beating the antifas they’ll tell the police to exclusively arrest the Trumpists.
     
    No "perhaps" about it.
  57. Boomstick says:
    @anonymous
    How many of the combatants are government infiltrators? A lot, probably, especially when one looks at the past history of government involvement in these things. Particularly the ones who initiate an action that touches off some action are likely candidates.

    On the Black Bloc side? Probably not a lot. If the government had infiltrated them they could have rolled up the Black Bloc in the wake of the Milo event or a couple Trump rallies. The Black Bloc are frequent rioters in the Bay Area and the government has never done anything to take them down as a group.

    Read More
  58. Mr. Anon says:

    “On the Black Bloc side? Probably not a lot. If the government had infiltrated them they could have rolled up the Black Bloc in the wake of the Milo event or a couple Trump rallies.”

    That presumes the purpose of infiltrating political movements is to bring them to an end. I’d say that is far from certain. Perhaps the purpose is to harness them and make use of them.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    That was certainly the case under the Clinton regime where White Militias appeared out of nowhere, didn't do a damn thing but allow the Feds to preen and vanished back into the woodwork with the advent of Bush the Lesser.
    Every cell of six consisted of two local fuckwits, three Feds and the guy from the SPLC.
  59. Ivy says:
    @Cagey Beast
    OT but not really. Where's all the hard feelings coming from? Weird:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1h-8hn1T0E

    Maine Democrats Filmed Laughing Over Rise In White Male Suicides
    "Maybe I shouldn't say that out in public."
    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56598

    Cracks in the thin veneer of civilization. So hard to build a civilized world, so easy to forget that, or never learn it, and then wonder why maintenance is hard, costly and necessary.

    Read More
  60. Whiskey says: • Website

    The Trump people are likely half government informants and the other half will be arrested and convicted shortly with the approval if Donald Trump.

    Hopium is for dopes.

    Read More
  61. BenKenobi says:
    @BenKenobi
    Oh and even more fun!

    Check out the thread in the twitter post (Hail. #15) -- Turns out this young woman is also a nude "hairy" model, going by the nomme-du-vag Venus Gonsales. There's also a nice collage of pics of her before and after her antifa transformation.

    Top Kek all around!

    Pardon me, gentlemen, that was Venus Rosales.

    Read More
  62. Stealth says:
    @slumber_j
    It only just occurred to me that the expression "antifa" must be derived from--or I guess be wordplay on--a less-used Spanish word for mask. The normal word is máscara, but for the KKK-style hood/mask deployed in e.g. Seville Holy Week penitent marches, the word is antifaz.

    I must be getting slow, literally: otherwise I can't see how this insight eluded me for so long.

    Antifascist.

    Read More
  63. @Hail
    Nathan Damigo was an organizer of the right-wing counter-demonstration. His group among others defeated the antifa so thoroughly that they took all their banners, a time-honored tradition of the victors in combat...

    https://twitter.com/NathanDamigo/status/853321034249814016

    These protests, counter protests and street fights need background music and I offer the overture from the “West Side Story..”

    Read More
  64. Kevin C. says:
    @Jack Hanson
    You people breathlessly insisting whites are doomed should probably realise that because YOU think the height of allowable resistance is a pithy blog post doesn't mean others think the same way.

    It’s not about what resistance is “allowable”, it’s that whatever level of force we “resist” with, they can bring much more. Do the names “Waco, TX” and “Branch Davidian” mean anything to you? Do you know what happened to the “Bonus Army” in 1932?

    Read More
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Hmmm.... 27 comments in all your years here. Not a peep since 2013 until this month, where you've logged 20 comments thus far, and it's all doom-and-gloom, there's-nothing-we-can-do-guys-let's-just-lay-down-and-die.

    Nexus 6 detected. Recommend retirement.
  65. I guess mixed martial arts doesn’t mean boy vs girl fisticuffs. But, on the plus side, when you see the black fight videos, there is a lot of kicking and stomping going on, so a one-punch KO is tame.

    Read More
  66. Kevin C. says:
    @Erik L
    Really? Seems to me this is the kind of law that is pretty easy to enforce. The violators are obvious, tend to be on camera and surrounded by cops as they are doing it. If the local cops refuse to enforce it there is precedent for the federal executive branch stepping in to protect civil rights.

    The only real difficulty I see is lack of mainstream media support but that could actually be kind of funny

    It’s not about being “easy” or “hard” to enforce, it’s about the willingness to enforce it. There may be “precedent” for the federal executive branch to intervene, but they’re never going to actually do it. Because the Executive Branch — that is to say, the parts that actually rule and actually matter, the permanent people who go on as they always do no matter who the temporary (figure-head) occupant of the White House is — is on the side of the people against whom you’re seeking enforcement. They will never enforce these laws in this direction because they will never want to.

    Read More
  67. Kevin C. says:
    @Boomstick
    The antifa leadership is probably fine with armed violence. In the Bay Area the anarchists and the Revolutionary Communist Party have shared tactics right now, though they also have differing politics. One of their common goals is corrupting the idea of a lawful and well-policed state, and street violence is a great way to achieve that. They have a membership of easily stirred up idiots and telling them Trump supporters are fascists is a good way to get a street fight going, and that can be used to escalate to higher levels of violence. It's pretty obvious that the local politicians thought the black bloc was going to beat up the Trumpists yesterday, as they did at the Milo event, so they told the police to not get involved. Perhaps if the rightists make a habit of beating the antifas they'll tell the police to exclusively arrest the Trumpists.

    On the right side of the spectrum being attacked by leftists for stating opinions held by half the nation is great theater. It's constitutionally protected speech, too.

    There was an armed march by antifas at the Arizona state capitol a couple weeks ago:

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/03/26/far-left-activists-hold-armed-march-in-phoenix/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H58Voqb7jik

    The antifa leadership is probably fine with armed violence.

    Because they expect to win it, thanks to having the Federal juggernaut and all it’s loyal minions on their side.

    Perhaps if the rightists make a habit of beating the antifas they’ll tell the police to exclusively arrest the Trumpists.

    No “perhaps” about it.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Boomstick
    Government support for the antifa goons varies based on location, I think. In Berkeley the local, county, and the state leadership is fine with having the police turn a blind eye towards violence directed against conservatives. Under a Clinton administration the feds would be the same. It's too early to see what Trump and Sessions will do. In Arizona it will probably be different.

    Politics winds up being a reflection of philosophy. There are a lot of philosophical and cultural fans of Weimar Germany in the US, and they're rolling down the path of making America Weimar. It's all just depressing.
  68. Kevin C. says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Now that the Antifa sissies see that they lose decisively as soon as the patriots punch back, how long before they escalate to knives and bats? Or one of them finds a gun somewhere? The Antifa don't fear escalation because they know they can count on their government patrons not to prosecute them while prosecuting their intended victims to the max.

    I still don't think civil war is the necessary end game, but the Progs are doing everything right if they want to bring that about...

    I still don’t think civil war is the necessary end game, but the Progs are doing everything right if they want to bring that about…

    In my experience, I think civil war is indeed the endgame sought by at least some Progs, because they think they’ll win it handily (and based on what I see, they have very good reasons for thinking that).

    Read More
    • Replies: @J1234

    I think civil war is indeed the endgame sought by at least some Progs, because they think they’ll win it handily
     
    No, they think the US military will win it handily.

    "They'll" have little to do with it on a personal level because wars come with a whole lot of unpleasant reality.

  69. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Diversity Heretic
    You make an excellent point--thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.

    You make an excellent point–thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.

    This is a pretty good summation of reality.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    This is a pretty good summation of reality.

    No, it's frankly bizarre and wouldn't survive a study of comparative crime statistics.
  70. @Spyder
    Christ is this comment board filled with nuts.

    Mmm, not really. Thanks for asking though. Yours, JC.

    Read More
  71. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    "I think “antifa” is short for “anti-fascist”. Nevermind that the antifa are basically fascist themselves.'

    No, they basically aren't. Someday they might meet real fascists, and they'll learn what that word really means.
    Read More
  72. MarkinLA says:
    @Kevin C.
    Plenty of talk about what Sessions and the Justice Department should do, but there's no way in h*** they're ever going to do it. These laws may be on the books, but there's simply no way to ever get them enforced in the manner called for here.

    http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2012/05/antifa-terrorists-launch-unprovoked.html

    In the aftermath of this, some of these punks actually were convicted and set to prison.

    Read More
  73. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Campus types have no taste for real violence. Anything more than a post sporting event dustup, anyway. After winning or losing the big game. Tip over a car or two and a bonfire and drunken vandalism. And although these things happen with some regularity, they are far from common.

    The MSM is already building a narrative about the fascist male hitting a girl. I know, I know.

    I don’t think either side is going to want to claim the demonstrators that are allegedly fighting for their side.

    If there were really anything worth fighting for, the only winning approach is to go MLK on it. The fact it is happening on a campus is an indication that it isn’t worth much of a fight.

    Spend a moment or two thinking about sacrificing for freedom of speech on an elite US university campus. I can’t think of a more over-privileged group. They can damn well fight for themselves. Although I’d be surprised if most of them have even seen a street fight, much less gotten into a fistfight.

    We are talking about people who think/care about trigger warnings and safe spaces. It’s not like administrators have to ‘grow a pair’. They could just frown and elicit tears.

    Read More
  74. @Spyder
    Hey, if she wants to get into the rough and tumble with men maybe expect some equality to come back at you.

    (feminist) women want to be men, until they don’t

    Read More
  75. BB753 says:
    @Hail
    Best short video (4 min.) of the streetfighting is here. The nationalist fighters win decisively, at least at that area at that time. It would seem the antifa reputation for person physical cowardice is again confirmed.

    https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/853357314127953924

    A punch thrown by Damigo (about :30 here) has become a Twitter meme.

    Good to see the Right has also boots on the ground. One day, these skirmishes might turn out ugly though. And we know whose side the police is on.

    Read More
  76. BB753 says:
    @Hail
    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/853427147796512768

    Some commentary:
    https://twitter.com/seek1st/status/853422217195114496
    https://twitter.com/McPromize_AFC/status/853417956394577922
    https://twitter.com/DBellphork/status/853419200244621313
    https://twitter.com/darthomanizor/status/853425950481981440
    https://twitter.com/TrackTopicM/status/853412818707787776

    Every left-wing agitator, though, has undergone a miraculous conversion to Victorian High Moralist. An Easter miracle!

    If you don’t act like a lady, don’t expect to be treated like one.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Ivy
    How many commenters imagine their Mom taking a swing at a protestor? Then ask that about other sites.
  77. res says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Street-fighting men having it out at protests is all part of the Weimarization of America. It's here to stay. One may as well get used to it.

    After all the comments over the past year about Hitler and 1930′s Germany this incident is the first which really makes me wonder if we are on that road. I think it’s worth remembering that the “good people” in those days were the ones keeping their heads down while the Nazis and Communists fought it out. And nobody came out of that history looking good.

    Read More
    • Replies: @BB753
    Well, you could argue that eventually the communists won and ran part of Germany and large areas of the world for a long time. Hell, they still run China and North Korea.
  78. Dee says:

    The street fighting is kool, but going after the 1 percenters that fund and encourage this is where the effort should be.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Hail

    going after the 1 percenters
     
    How do you propose to do that?
  79. @Spyder
    Christ is this comment board filled with nuts.

    Christ is this comment board filled with nuts.

    Well, you are here.

    Read More
  80. BB753 says:
    @res
    After all the comments over the past year about Hitler and 1930's Germany this incident is the first which really makes me wonder if we are on that road. I think it's worth remembering that the "good people" in those days were the ones keeping their heads down while the Nazis and Communists fought it out. And nobody came out of that history looking good.

    Well, you could argue that eventually the communists won and ran part of Germany and large areas of the world for a long time. Hell, they still run China and North Korea.

    Read More
    • Replies: @res
    True, but to be clear, I was referring to the early 1930s (i.e. not WW2 itself) : http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/the-communist-party-and-weimar-germany/

    For example, from http://socialistreview.org.uk/378/lessons-of-defeat

    During the month of June 1932 alone, Communist street fighting against Nazi brown-shirts left 99 dead and 125 gravely wounded.
     
  81. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL0ipXUD-uU

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warriors_(film)#Critical_reception

    Weird:

    "President Ronald Reagan was a fan of the film, even calling the film's lead actor, Michael Beck, to tell him he had screened it at Camp David and enjoyed it."

    “President Ronald Reagan was a fan of the film, even calling the film’s lead actor, Michael Beck, to tell him he had screened it at Camp David and enjoyed it.”

    Well, now I want to know what he thought about Streets Of Fire.

    Read More
  82. BenKenobi says:
    @Kevin C.
    It's not about what resistance is "allowable", it's that whatever level of force we "resist" with, they can bring much more. Do the names "Waco, TX" and "Branch Davidian" mean anything to you? Do you know what happened to the "Bonus Army" in 1932?

    Hmmm…. 27 comments in all your years here. Not a peep since 2013 until this month, where you’ve logged 20 comments thus far, and it’s all doom-and-gloom, there’s-nothing-we-can-do-guys-let’s-just-lay-down-and-die.

    Nexus 6 detected. Recommend retirement.

    Read More
  83. Ivy says:
    @BB753
    If you don't act like a lady, don't expect to be treated like one.

    How many commenters imagine their Mom taking a swing at a protestor? Then ask that about other sites.

    Read More
    • Replies: @donut
    Well I've seen my mother take a swing or two at one particular protestor .
  84. Boomstick says:
    @Kevin C.

    The antifa leadership is probably fine with armed violence.
     
    Because they expect to win it, thanks to having the Federal juggernaut and all it's loyal minions on their side.

    Perhaps if the rightists make a habit of beating the antifas they’ll tell the police to exclusively arrest the Trumpists.
     
    No "perhaps" about it.

    Government support for the antifa goons varies based on location, I think. In Berkeley the local, county, and the state leadership is fine with having the police turn a blind eye towards violence directed against conservatives. Under a Clinton administration the feds would be the same. It’s too early to see what Trump and Sessions will do. In Arizona it will probably be different.

    Politics winds up being a reflection of philosophy. There are a lot of philosophical and cultural fans of Weimar Germany in the US, and they’re rolling down the path of making America Weimar. It’s all just depressing.

    Read More
  85. res says:
    @BB753
    Well, you could argue that eventually the communists won and ran part of Germany and large areas of the world for a long time. Hell, they still run China and North Korea.

    True, but to be clear, I was referring to the early 1930s (i.e. not WW2 itself) : http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/the-communist-party-and-weimar-germany/

    For example, from http://socialistreview.org.uk/378/lessons-of-defeat

    During the month of June 1932 alone, Communist street fighting against Nazi brown-shirts left 99 dead and 125 gravely wounded.

    Read More
    • Replies: @BB753
    In the end, the red-shirts won. It's all that matters. And even in the West the Left still reigns supreme in the halls of universities and justice.
  86. @Joe Schmoe

    Christ is this comment board filled with nuts.

     

    Well, you are here.

    I was told he’d be amusing.

    Read More
  87. Cagey Beast says: • Website

    The Right is winning the culture war:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bKfycjdl7E

    This is a fresh example, hot off the hard drive. The guy who makes these isn’t alt-right, from what I can tell, but he enjoys Trump & Alex Jones being themselves but not Hillary or Obama. This one was probably made with the upcoming presidential election in mind.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXpVA7IAH1o

    Read More
  88. BB753 says:
    @res
    True, but to be clear, I was referring to the early 1930s (i.e. not WW2 itself) : http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/the-communist-party-and-weimar-germany/

    For example, from http://socialistreview.org.uk/378/lessons-of-defeat

    During the month of June 1932 alone, Communist street fighting against Nazi brown-shirts left 99 dead and 125 gravely wounded.
     

    In the end, the red-shirts won. It’s all that matters. And even in the West the Left still reigns supreme in the halls of universities and justice.

    Read More
  89. dfordoom says: • Website
    @TheBoom
    I have no idea why but this is the type of thing that is not on Trump's or Sessions' radar. They have left Trump's supporters to fend for themselves. Antifa should be declared a terrorist group and the National Guard sent in to protect people from Antifa if states and cities don't get on top of it.

    On the other hand, maybe if we get a sad pic of a beaten older person to Ivanka it may become an issue.

    On the other hand, maybe if we get a sad pic of a beaten older person to Ivanka it may become an issue.

    Ivanka is a liberal. Sad pictures of beaten white people won’t upset her. She’s more likely to cry at sad pictures of antifa thugs getting beaten.

    Read More
  90. In the name of Nonviolence, avoiding aggression, and Nonsinning, avoiding harm to others – it is time to treat Political Violence in our Constitutional Republican Mortal State, Liberal Democratic Mortal Society, and Welfare Capitalist Mortal Marketplace as Terrorism. Every Person and Citizen has Civil and Constitutional Rights – including having a Nonviolent Rally without getting beat up. No one has the ‘Right’ to be a Bully or a Vigilante – or to Avenge. Ayn Rand said, “A Gun is not an Argument”. Issues are Settled by Viewpoints – not gun sights. Buddha, Tao, Kami (Gods), and Megami (Goddesses) Bless from this humble little Japanese American Shamaness to all those who Protest within the Truces of the Civil Order. Honor the Golden Rule – and assault no one. Sayonara.

    Read More
  91. Escher says:
    @Erik L
    Really? Seems to me this is the kind of law that is pretty easy to enforce. The violators are obvious, tend to be on camera and surrounded by cops as they are doing it. If the local cops refuse to enforce it there is precedent for the federal executive branch stepping in to protect civil rights.

    The only real difficulty I see is lack of mainstream media support but that could actually be kind of funny

    Unsurprisingly, this news article on the BBC does not indicate who started the violence.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39612785

    Read More
  92. jtgw says:
    @Yak-15
    Equality to play pretend soldier and get the bennies but inequality to duck actual physical violence.

    Form all women special forces and send them into Syria to show ISIS how tough women can be.

    Progressive ideology in a nutshell. All the privileges and freedoms of adulthood with none of the responsibilities.

    Read More
  93. This post was tickling something in my memory. Last night I finally realized what it was: Michael Crichton’s novel State of Fear. When I read the book, I thought Crichton’s eco-terrorists were just a goofy idea that he had dreamed up to make a point. Now I see that Crichton was talking about our actual future.

    Read More
  94. Corvinus says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    You make an excellent point--thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.

    “Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline.”

    What required discipline were for southrons to have followed through with “separate but equal” as explained by the Justices by the Plessy case. They couldn’t even get that right! Thankfully, white southerners got tired of being labeled anti-white by southrons merely for exercising their liberty to freely associate with black people.

    Now, on the issue that Mr. Sailer brings forward, indeed, law enforcement should employ the current laws to arrest anyone who wears a mask to a demonstration. That even includes your relatives, Diversity Heretic.

    Read More
  95. @Hail
    Note: The leftwing rioter who got clocked on video by Damigo (immortalized in this meme) turns out to have been a woman: Androgynous (characteristically for Antifa), masked, looking for trouble, participating in a riot, but a woman.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/853427147796512768

    Some commentary:
    https://twitter.com/seek1st/status/853422217195114496
    https://twitter.com/McPromize_AFC/status/853417956394577922
    https://twitter.com/DBellphork/status/853419200244621313
    https://twitter.com/darthomanizor/status/853425950481981440
    https://twitter.com/TrackTopicM/status/853412818707787776

    Every left-wing agitator, though, has undergone a miraculous conversion to Victorian High Moralist. An Easter miracle!

    At about one minute into the four minute video above, you can see her crying. I guess she felt overwhelmed.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Hail
    Our society is remarkably safe by historical standards. People like her feel emboldened by such a soft society as ours, and are egged on by movies of strong women warriors and so on (the recent Mad Max movie had such a lead character, but was a very good movie if you can get past that). In an actual situation of anarchic and mortal violence, obviously she wouldn't last long as a warrior. Either she would attach herself to men who know the art of war and are willing to protect her, or she would die. It's a hard world. In our soft world, she imagines herself a brave warrior. In fact she is a fool.
    , @Boomstick
    The regional CBS News site engaged in ridiculous propaganda by portraying her as some innocent victim:

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/04/17/berkeley-protester-recounts-being-sucker-punched-i-was-just-terrified/

    They neglect to mention that she was there to violently suppress free speech by mainstream conservatives, was planning on taking "100 scalps", and was photographed at the riot masked, wearing weighted sap gloves, and throwing glass bottles at her opponents. CBS gets lit up in the comments.

  96. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    You make an excellent point–thank you! Negroes needed to be governed by something other than Anglo-Celtic norms and southern sheriffs and Jim Crow provided that required discipline. The present snarling black underclass is a result of foolish decisions in the 1960s made on the premise that Negroes were simply white people in dark skin.
     
    This is a pretty good summation of reality.

    This is a pretty good summation of reality.

    No, it’s frankly bizarre and wouldn’t survive a study of comparative crime statistics.

    Read More
  97. @Mr. Anon
    "I think “antifa” is short for “anti-fascist”. Nevermind that the antifa are basically fascist themselves.'

    No, they basically aren't. Someday they might meet real fascists, and they'll learn what that word really means.

    Granted that the antifa are not as skilled or disciplined as more famous fascists, such as the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento or Hitler’s SA, but as far as the basic ingredients of fascism:

    • reject free and open debate, CHECK

    • use of violence to intimidate political opponents, CHECK

    • submerge individual identities in group culture, however counter-reality, CHECK

    • wear uniform clothing, if not quite uniforms, CHECK

    they’re all there.

    Read More
  98. donut says:
    @Ivy
    How many commenters imagine their Mom taking a swing at a protestor? Then ask that about other sites.

    Well I’ve seen my mother take a swing or two at one particular protestor .

    Read More
  99. Dahlia says:

    “A pattern of official tolerance of illegal violence against citizens engaging in their right of assembly has emerged in Northern California going back to the assault on the Trump rally in San Jose last year, with very few arrests of members of semi-organized mobs of masked blackshirts.”

    It started before, but San Jose is where we started to make a stand and organize to punish these guys and get the word out on this pattern as well as pointing out that the MSM, e.g., Jonathan Chait, were cheering on assaults of women (he tweeted in now deleted tweets how he liked the egged woman, Rachel); he was retweeted by his fellow DC journalists.

    I’ve banged on this drum ever since and I guess it took physically hitting back hard for our side to overcome the demoralization that came from our elderly, women, and children being abused to finally begin speaking out…
    Mike Cernovich has a fine write-up about the long history of assaults of vulnerable Trump supporters.

    Read More
  100. J1234 says:
    @Kevin C.

    I still don’t think civil war is the necessary end game, but the Progs are doing everything right if they want to bring that about…
     
    In my experience, I think civil war is indeed the endgame sought by at least some Progs, because they think they'll win it handily (and based on what I see, they have very good reasons for thinking that).

    I think civil war is indeed the endgame sought by at least some Progs, because they think they’ll win it handily

    No, they think the US military will win it handily.

    “They’ll” have little to do with it on a personal level because wars come with a whole lot of unpleasant reality.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Given the number of veterans on the Right, its amazing that they think the US military will aid them.
  101. Hail says: • Website
    @Prof. Woland
    At about one minute into the four minute video above, you can see her crying. I guess she felt overwhelmed.

    Our society is remarkably safe by historical standards. People like her feel emboldened by such a soft society as ours, and are egged on by movies of strong women warriors and so on (the recent Mad Max movie had such a lead character, but was a very good movie if you can get past that). In an actual situation of anarchic and mortal violence, obviously she wouldn’t last long as a warrior. Either she would attach herself to men who know the art of war and are willing to protect her, or she would die. It’s a hard world. In our soft world, she imagines herself a brave warrior. In fact she is a fool.

    Read More
  102. Hail says: • Website
    @Dee
    The street fighting is kool, but going after the 1 percenters that fund and encourage this is where the effort should be.

    going after the 1 percenters

    How do you propose to do that?

    Read More
  103. @slumber_j
    It only just occurred to me that the expression "antifa" must be derived from--or I guess be wordplay on--a less-used Spanish word for mask. The normal word is máscara, but for the KKK-style hood/mask deployed in e.g. Seville Holy Week penitent marches, the word is antifaz.

    I must be getting slow, literally: otherwise I can't see how this insight eluded me for so long.

    It’s a German thing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#Germany:_Cold_War_.22anti-fascism.22_and_after

    with roots going back to this lot

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

    and the autonomes (Italy).
    (And good ole Operation Gladio, for those partial to the Alcan beret.

    https://libcom.org/library/advisory-concerning-spectacular-terrorism)

    Read More
  104. @Mr. Anon
    Street-fighting men having it out at protests is all part of the Weimarization of America. It's here to stay. One may as well get used to it.

    The final solution of this problem will come only when most of the gangs on one side unite and beat to a pulp the gangs on the other side and then win some national elections.

    Can MAGA happen within the System? It may be the case that a return to the politics of 1776 – i.e. don’t debate, just get some tar and feathers – will become possible. The Bourgeoisie oppose that because it may mean broken shop windows.

    Read More
  105. Boomstick says:
    @Prof. Woland
    At about one minute into the four minute video above, you can see her crying. I guess she felt overwhelmed.

    The regional CBS News site engaged in ridiculous propaganda by portraying her as some innocent victim:

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/04/17/berkeley-protester-recounts-being-sucker-punched-i-was-just-terrified/

    They neglect to mention that she was there to violently suppress free speech by mainstream conservatives, was planning on taking “100 scalps”, and was photographed at the riot masked, wearing weighted sap gloves, and throwing glass bottles at her opponents. CBS gets lit up in the comments.

    Read More
  106. @J1234

    I think civil war is indeed the endgame sought by at least some Progs, because they think they’ll win it handily
     
    No, they think the US military will win it handily.

    "They'll" have little to do with it on a personal level because wars come with a whole lot of unpleasant reality.

    Given the number of veterans on the Right, its amazing that they think the US military will aid them.

    Read More
  107. @jesse helms think-alike
    Dunno if this is sarcasm or naivete

    Of course the organs of state security allow the left to get away with anything up to and sometimes including murder while right of center types must apologize for their mere existence

    anything else would be raciss, homophobic or sexist or some combination thereof

    The action of the Berkeley Police- disarming those opposed to the regime and then vanishing, gives the lie to those morons who claim that the pigs are on the side of the Right.

    The Filth are on their own side and that means doing what their paymasters say, and if that involves victimizing those they allegedly agree with, that’s just life.

    Read More
  108. @Mr. Anon
    "On the Black Bloc side? Probably not a lot. If the government had infiltrated them they could have rolled up the Black Bloc in the wake of the Milo event or a couple Trump rallies."

    That presumes the purpose of infiltrating political movements is to bring them to an end. I'd say that is far from certain. Perhaps the purpose is to harness them and make use of them.

    That was certainly the case under the Clinton regime where White Militias appeared out of nowhere, didn’t do a damn thing but allow the Feds to preen and vanished back into the woodwork with the advent of Bush the Lesser.
    Every cell of six consisted of two local fuckwits, three Feds and the guy from the SPLC.

    Read More

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to This Comment Thread via RSS Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
What Was John McCain's True Wartime Record in Vietnam?
The unspoken statistical reality of urban crime over the last quarter century.