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Not just the looted shopkeepers of Ferguson but also the homeowners whose property values were deliberately trashed in a failed attempt to boost Democratic turnout deserve reparation checks from Eric Holder, Jay Nixon, Benjamin Crump, Al Sharpton, and Barack Obama.

 
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  1. As businesses leave, the area will fall further into despair. But LA recovered well after its riots, while Detroit didn’t. Probably other factors at play

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    There was a news story a few years ago that area of '92 LA riots is now all immigrant; they pushed the blacks out of that area. Sometimes we all must wonder if that's not part of the reason elites push for immigrants. Bloomberg wanted to send a lot of immigrants to clean up Detroit.
    , @Anonymous
    LA recovered because it's next to the Pacific Ocean and has the best weather in the contiguous 48.
    , @Anonymous
    LA has major industries like entertainment and nice weather.

    Detroit had foreign auto competition and domestic auto production competition as Southern states attracted auto manufacturers to produce in the South. Also Detroit has bad weather.
    , @Anonymous
    "LA recovered, while Detroit didn't. Probably other factors at play."

    Hasn't LA been pretty much ethnically cleansed of its blacks by Mexicans and other Latin-types? A quick internet search shows Detroit about 85% black. LA county shows about 8.3% black, or about ten times fewer. What this suggests to me is that once a black population reaches a certain tipping point the inevitable downward spiral begins. The question becomes what exact percentage is the tipping point? I'm going to say 20%?
    , @Realist
    "Probably other factors at play"
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  2. anon says: • Disclaimer

    clickbait like this doesn’t work if you’re preaching to the choir.

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    In Obamas book he recounts how he was the only one who went out to talk 'Guys can't we take this somewhere else?' to blacks outside the uni halls of residence with a raise the dead volume ghetto blaster in the early hours .

    Obama could and should have at least tried to prevent this.
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  3. EriK says:

    I wouldn’t recommend taking a check from that Sharpton chap.

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  4. Jefferson says:

    When Obama’s sons looted and burned businesses in Ferguson, they basically declared a war on middle class entrepreneurs who pay taxes. Obama’s sons are anti-capitalist.

    You want to know how to scare away the rioters in Ferguson ? Start handing out job applications to them. None of them have a strong work ethic, so jobs are like kryptonite to them.

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  5. Can you say “food desert”?

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    Yeah, can't imagine why supermarket chains are hesitant to open up in areas that are almost always one "chimp-out" away from burning to the ground.

    If you ran a supermarket would YOU open up shop in Ferguson, or any non-white majority city? I sure as hell wouldn't.
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  6. Jefferson says:

    “As businesses leave, the area will fall further into despair. But LA recovered well after its riots, while Detroit didn’t. Probably other factors at play”

    White flight in Los Angeles has not been as high as White flight in Detroit, that is why L.A recovered while Detroit is still feeling the pain. Los Angeles still has a large enough White taxpayer base to keep it afloat.

    Detroit is White flight on steroids. Even some cities in South Africa are Whiter than Detroit.

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  7. “Riot – the unbeatable high

    Riot – shoots your nerves to the sky

    Riot – playing right into their hands

    Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast”

    -Dead Kennedys

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  8. Clyde says:

    reparations for white and black homeowners?–rots o’ ruck

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  9. Hersh says:
    @grey enlightenment
    As businesses leave, the area will fall further into despair. But LA recovered well after its riots, while Detroit didn't. Probably other factors at play

    There was a news story a few years ago that area of ’92 LA riots is now all immigrant; they pushed the blacks out of that area. Sometimes we all must wonder if that’s not part of the reason elites push for immigrants. Bloomberg wanted to send a lot of immigrants to clean up Detroit.

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  10. george says:

    Reparations are great. As long as reparations are on the table unifying poor whites and blacks and these days hispanics is impossible. American exceptional-ism, yeah!

    btw, when is vdare going back to being anti open borders rather than trying to recreate the Nixon military/police/welfare coalition?

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  11. Luke Lea says:

    I’m amazed at how one-sided media coverage of this case has been. Apart from Steve and Rich Lowry, are there any other critical voices in the mainstream media? (I’ve promoted Steve to mainstream.) Maybe readers could help compile a list.

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    I'm not. Have you ever heard them say anything bad about, say, feminism, or black people in general?

    (I almost said Israel, but they have been reporting pretty steadily on the bad stuff going on in Gaza.)

    The conservative media's reporting on it pretty well though.
    , @Anon87
    Ann Coulter. The opening of her newest column: "The riot in Ferguson reminds me, I hate criminals, but I hate liberals more. They planned this riot. They stoked the fire, lied about the evidence and produced a made-to-order riot."
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  12. SFG says:
    @Luke Lea
    I'm amazed at how one-sided media coverage of this case has been. Apart from Steve and Rich Lowry, are there any other critical voices in the mainstream media? (I've promoted Steve to mainstream.) Maybe readers could help compile a list.

    I’m not. Have you ever heard them say anything bad about, say, feminism, or black people in general?

    (I almost said Israel, but they have been reporting pretty steadily on the bad stuff going on in Gaza.)

    The conservative media’s reporting on it pretty well though.

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  13. Reperations for slavery? Good idea, I have five great-uncles who died fighting in an Ohio regiment, let me give you my address. I prefer money orders over personal checks, please …

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  14. Apparently there’s a burgeoning number of unemployable black thugs ready to loot at the drop of a hat should the lights go out or the police withdraw momentarily for any reason. We have a thug problem in this country and the numbers just seem to increase as they devolve into greater stupidity; they’re becoming a separate species before our eyes. They can be relied upon to trash anything and everything.
    The police were held back from moving in aggressively against the rioters, instead standing back and letting them burn and loot, which only gives the whole thing a momentum of it’s own. What good is having police if they can’t be used when they’re most needed? The puppet masters are a bunch of roving arsonists demanding barbarian tribute for themselves, threatening to unleash the thugs should they be displeased with what they’re being offered.

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    But those thugs are the ones Obama and Holder want teachers to refrain from writing disciplinary referrals on. Disparate impact and all that shyt.
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  15. Anon87 says:
    @Luke Lea
    I'm amazed at how one-sided media coverage of this case has been. Apart from Steve and Rich Lowry, are there any other critical voices in the mainstream media? (I've promoted Steve to mainstream.) Maybe readers could help compile a list.

    Ann Coulter. The opening of her newest column: “The riot in Ferguson reminds me, I hate criminals, but I hate liberals more. They planned this riot. They stoked the fire, lied about the evidence and produced a made-to-order riot.”

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  16. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:

    Methinks we are on to a new business model: claim racism; take the stuff.

    The gleeful looks on the faces of the pictured looters is chilling.

    It is said there is a lot of ruin in a nation. I guess we are finding out how much.

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    Just you wait. Ammo: Buy cheap, stack deep...
    , @Priss Factor
    "The gleeful looks on the faces of the pictured looters is chilling."

    Obama also has that gleeful look, and it's appealing in the cuckoldist nation that is now the US. After all, Obama is the product of a black guy humping a white woman.

    Even as whites fear blacks, they also love rap. White boys shriek like girls at sports events. And white women lust after Negro men.
    Though criminal savagery is ugly, it also has a primal appeal to a decadent people who are addicted to hedonism. And black violence has a sensational element. It's no longer unforgivable blackness but irresistible blackness. It's like the ending of ZARDOZ where the pampered elites surrender to the orgasmic thrill of the barbarian invasion.

    http://youtu.be/bgO4_dt4DgQ?t=6m30s

    It's like a white guy and white woman will run to the suburbs from blacks. But white boys will indulge in sports, which is essentially cuckold festival as black studs dominate the field and are cheered by ass-shaking white cheerleaders(to the delight of wussified white boys who also shriek like girls). And white women will look for Negro mates.

    US is finished. But then so is EU. It's only a matter of time. When the unity of man and woman is broken, it's all over. What is race? It's all about men and women of a race sticking together and producing more of their own. White women have been made to see white men as 'racists' and 'wussies'. And white men have been conditioned to grovel. When white males are not groveling to blacks and mulattos, they are groveling to Jews and homos. What kind of men are these?

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  17. Sean says:
    @anon
    clickbait like this doesn't work if you're preaching to the choir.

    In Obamas book he recounts how he was the only one who went out to talk ‘Guys can’t we take this somewhere else?’ to blacks outside the uni halls of residence with a raise the dead volume ghetto blaster in the early hours .

    Obama could and should have at least tried to prevent this.

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  18. Boy, was Ferguson an American Kristallnacht or what?

    I used to be horrified by everything, back in the 90′s, when I thought after the Cold War we were entering some circadian era (and wasn’t alone in this, it did feel like the end of history for a while).

    But the nation I was part of is long gone and I’m definitely in the “let it burn” camp. I do not want to be in political association with these people and the faster everything falls apart, the better.

    For that reason, I am voting Democrat forthwith. Not that the Republicans are much better, but I figure they may stave off the decline a little bit longer, as this stuff is bad for business and they do tend to be made up of people who actually know how to run things. The Democrats floor the gas pedal on the road to perdition, when in power, they are like kids home alone having a wild raucous party without any regard for consequence. Again, the Republicans really aren’t any better in their agenda, but greater managerial instincts seem to hold them back just a little more from the excesses that guarantee the eventual demise of the U.S.

    Time to end this clown show. For any possiblity of a future for your grandchildren and their grandchildren that is one other than a PC brainwashed, drugged, degenerate, debt slave to the globo-slate, vote Democrat early, often, and for the most far out left wing candidate spewing about white patriarchy, etc. But keep donating to NRA, GOA, etc, to keep them on their toes about 2d Amendment, that is one thing that those grandchildren will appreciate and give them a fighting (pun intended) chance of establishing some satisfactory future for themselves and their posterity.

    The Republicans are the worse danger, as they have the same drugged, debt slave future planned and are more likely to be able to pull it off. On the average, who would you rather engage with, for instance, a military organized by D’s or R’s? Me, I’d much rather take on little girls and fairies in uniform.

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  19. Superman says:

    Apart from Steve and Rich Lowry, are there any other critical voices in the mainstream media?

    Yes, Alex Ferrer of the TV show “Judge Alex” has been great as a Fox News guest. Just as in the Trayvon Martin fiasco, he calmly rips apart the narrative. It probably gets lost in the shuffle because he’s not feverishly ranting and most viewers are hunting for the TV version of clickbait.

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  20. Wilkey says:

    I support reparations for all blacks, including for those like Somalis and Haitians who aren’t actually descended from American slaves. A $200,000 check for anyone under 50 who wants it. Only catch is that you have to surrender your citizenship and move to Africa to cash it.

    Those who refused the check could forever be reminded that they preferred to live with oppressive white people over $200,000 and a chance to live in a country where they rule the roost.

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    I think you might want to wait awhile for the ebola outbreak to fade, before you make the offer. Liberia isn't too appealing even in the best of times, but Liberia in the midst of an ebola outbreak isn't going to get many takers....
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  21. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @grey enlightenment
    As businesses leave, the area will fall further into despair. But LA recovered well after its riots, while Detroit didn't. Probably other factors at play

    LA recovered because it’s next to the Pacific Ocean and has the best weather in the contiguous 48.

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    LA recovered?
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  22. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Most of what I saw being burned/looted were black businesses and huge national chains… so… yeah…

    Made bed… lie… etc

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  23. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    It’s time to start prosecuting the media for promoting terrorism and racketeering. Printing lies to encourage a riot fits the definition of terrorism, especially if you’re doing it for political reasons and have decided you’re okay with killing, coercing, or otherwise harming people to get your way. That’s exactly how a terrorist thinks and behaves.

    At the very least, the city of Ferguson needs to take The New York Times and other outlets to court and make them pay damages for lying in print. It would be easy to do, since Ferguson can prove it was materially harmed by the lies. Make the Times pay to rebuild those businesses and cough up overtime pay for the cops is the very least the city should do.

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    Which media do you think they will censor first ? This or the NYT ?
    , @gu
    I know some will disagree with you, but I think this isn't unreasonable. Either lawfare or assassinations would be morally justified, when you think about it.
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  24. Pat Boyle says:

    The media should be forgiven but not the politicians.

    When a tropical storm wells up in the Caribbean the weather girls get all giddy with anticipation. They hope against hope that it will veer on to land and yield a lot of photogenic destruction. Similarly the streets of Ferguson were flooded in mid-afternoon with junior reporters who were eager for the sun to set and the rioters to emerge.

    I forgive them. It’s hard to fill up 24 hours each day with compelling live video. But their elected Governor – another Nixon – deliberately withdrew the National Guard from the business district so as to aid the looters and burners. He should be flayed alive.

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  25. Paul Kersey says: • Website

    Pure nonsense, Steve.

    The St. Louis Post-Dispatch noted 49 percent of mortgages in 67 percent black Ferguson were UNDERWATER… in an article published on May 9, 2014.

    Well before anyone had heard of Michael Brown or Darren Wilson (for a laugh, look at St. Louis Craigslist and see what properties are going for in Ferguson now…).

    http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/st-louis-is-hot-spot-for-underwater-mortgages/article_1a9b46b5-38f4-5b93-b4b4-e895f8e0bab5.html

    38 percent of the mortgages in Ferguson were below market peak.

    If anyone is owed reparations, it’s those poor white people who stayed in Ferguson, believing the now majority black city could continue to keep alive the memories of a city they remembered from the 1970s – 1990 (when city was 100% white to 78 % white).

    The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.

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  26. Francis says:
    @bomag
    Methinks we are on to a new business model: claim racism; take the stuff.

    The gleeful looks on the faces of the pictured looters is chilling.

    It is said there is a lot of ruin in a nation. I guess we are finding out how much.

    Just you wait. Ammo: Buy cheap, stack deep…

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  27. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I wish a white spokesman in Ferguson would just stand up and propose a mutually beneficial resolution:

    “We cannot get along. We have different cultures and goals. We should separate. Rather than you ‘burning this bitch down’, as Mr. Brown demanded, the Federal government can fund a relocation/cleansing arrangement, give our current houses to you and help us build our own town somewhere else.”

    “After Fegusonnacht it is clear that reconciliation is impossible, and the inevitable low-grade racial strife and conflict with all the concomitant lawsuits, government monitoring, and development agencies are too expensive.”

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    Rubbish. Blacks and whites have lived on the continent for nearly 400 years and an 8 digit population of blacks live nestled unobtrusively in and among the general population. What you need is the institutional architecture and public policy to maintain order in latently disagreeable neighborhoods. That can be done if you do not have suburban residents in a state of perpetual kvetch, if you do not have black rabble-rousers in a state of perpetual vitriol, and you have politicians who have the sense to proceed without regard to the nincompoopery all about them (hint: Jay Nixon is not that guy).
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  28. Jacobite says: • Website

    A $200,000 check for anyone under 50 who wants it. Only catch is that you have to surrender your citizenship and move to Africa to cash it.

    Not good enough. They have to agree to be permanently sterilized too. After that I don’t care if they stay. We need to target this at pubescent Negresses before they breed.

    I advocate a sliding scale for based on IQ and with concomitant cash subsidies for those with high IQ’s especially high IQ White women in their optimal child-bearing years.

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  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s long past time for blacks to pay reparations to whites. Blacks are better off in America than they could ever be on their own.

    I don’t believe reparations really are in order, of course, but the obvious truth is that if whites were bad for blacks they wouldn’t keep wanting to live in white countries.

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  31. Hal says:

    Seems to be counterproductive to ask El Negro to pay for effects of guilt-trip predation. I know this is a citizenism blog, but let’s use a baseball comparison. I root for the Hooterville Wings and our team’s stellar players have aged and are now less than stellar. Team owner brings new talent up from the minors (education), but he also makes trades. Less than stellar and getting old Joe goes to the Bigcity Ironworkers, and we get Jose, who can throw a really fast fastball. Team owner pays big bucks to Ironworkers for the trade. Both sides are happy. Hooterville Wings start winning again, and Bigcity Ironworkers owner gets cash, which is all he cares about.

    Joe was a fan favorite, but whenever he did not get his way, he tended to trash the locker room and told Teamowner to pay for it. Something about how he worked for ‘slave wages’ when he was in the minors. Jose, on the other hand (funny cause he is a southpaw, get it?), is happy to play for Hooterville, and is willing to work his way up to the big bucks.

    At first, the people of Bigcity might oppose this trade, but in that city, their vote does not count. In fact, just last month, forty three of their young people were murdered by henchmen who answer to Bigcity Ironworkers owner. In fact, an infusion of SJW might be good for Bigcity.

    Possible solution to the immigrant situation?

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  32. Ergot says:

    The night of the verdict, the city of Ferguson chose err on the side of restraint. They announced ahead of time that they would not call in the National Guard in anticipation of riots, and the night of the verdict they waited until the city was burning before firing tear gas. This was intended as a grand gesture to prove that the police are not monsters. What is being overlooked is that erring on the side of restraint is not virtue, it is error. The city of Ferguson should held partially liable for damages resulting from their error.

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  33. Art Deco says: • Website

    The race-hustler lawyer is named ‘Benjamin Crump’. His public relations svengali is Ryan Julison.

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  34. e says:
    @I am anonymous
    Apparently there's a burgeoning number of unemployable black thugs ready to loot at the drop of a hat should the lights go out or the police withdraw momentarily for any reason. We have a thug problem in this country and the numbers just seem to increase as they devolve into greater stupidity; they're becoming a separate species before our eyes. They can be relied upon to trash anything and everything.
    The police were held back from moving in aggressively against the rioters, instead standing back and letting them burn and loot, which only gives the whole thing a momentum of it's own. What good is having police if they can't be used when they're most needed? The puppet masters are a bunch of roving arsonists demanding barbarian tribute for themselves, threatening to unleash the thugs should they be displeased with what they're being offered.

    But those thugs are the ones Obama and Holder want teachers to refrain from writing disciplinary referrals on. Disparate impact and all that shyt.

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  35. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    I wish a white spokesman in Ferguson would just stand up and propose a mutually beneficial resolution:

    "We cannot get along. We have different cultures and goals. We should separate. Rather than you 'burning this bitch down', as Mr. Brown demanded, the Federal government can fund a relocation/cleansing arrangement, give our current houses to you and help us build our own town somewhere else."

    "After Fegusonnacht it is clear that reconciliation is impossible, and the inevitable low-grade racial strife and conflict with all the concomitant lawsuits, government monitoring, and development agencies are too expensive."

    Rubbish. Blacks and whites have lived on the continent for nearly 400 years and an 8 digit population of blacks live nestled unobtrusively in and among the general population. What you need is the institutional architecture and public policy to maintain order in latently disagreeable neighborhoods. That can be done if you do not have suburban residents in a state of perpetual kvetch, if you do not have black rabble-rousers in a state of perpetual vitriol, and you have politicians who have the sense to proceed without regard to the nincompoopery all about them (hint: Jay Nixon is not that guy).

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  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Oh the irony!
    White liberal who wrote for SPLC killed in Oakland.
    …police said witnesses had seen two men on the trail just before three gunshots rang out…One was described as a black or of mixed race…The second was an “out of shape” black man.

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-shot-dead-in-Huckleberry-park-in-Oakland-hills-5918503.php

    http://www.tolerance.org/author/david-ruenzel

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  37. Mr. Anon says:

    “Paul Kersey says:

    Pure nonsense, Steve.

    The St. Louis Post-Dispatch noted 49 percent of mortgages in 67 percent black Ferguson were UNDERWATER… in an article published on May 9, 2014.

    The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.”

    You are probably right that Ferguson was headed south already (although a frequent poster hereabouts – Art Deco – assures us that it was just peachy, section 8 not-withstanding). But the recent events will accelerate it’s decline. Who will want to insure a business in Ferguson now? What white person, when moving into the St. Louis area, would look at a Ferguson listing and think – yeah, Ferguson – that’s the place for me!

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    The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.

    No, it is not, Kersey, for reasons stated again and again. It's a suburban township predominantly composed of owner-occupiers where Section 8 voucher recipients amount to 5.5% of the total.
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  38. It’s Benjamin Crump, not George.

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    Right, George Crump was the golf course architect of Pine Valley.
    , @Karl
    I'd buy. Dozens of China guys are making bucks by buying Detroit homes for $10K, then selling them for $13K.

    30 percent return on your money. In a few months.

    Warren Buffet used to do that with stocks that took bad-news hits. Buy the morning-after, then sell 90 days later when the dust had settled and the stock had reached its ACTUAL new equilibrium point.
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  39. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:
    @bomag
    Methinks we are on to a new business model: claim racism; take the stuff.

    The gleeful looks on the faces of the pictured looters is chilling.

    It is said there is a lot of ruin in a nation. I guess we are finding out how much.

    “The gleeful looks on the faces of the pictured looters is chilling.”

    Obama also has that gleeful look, and it’s appealing in the cuckoldist nation that is now the US. After all, Obama is the product of a black guy humping a white woman.

    Even as whites fear blacks, they also love rap. White boys shriek like girls at sports events. And white women lust after Negro men.
    Though criminal savagery is ugly, it also has a primal appeal to a decadent people who are addicted to hedonism. And black violence has a sensational element. It’s no longer unforgivable blackness but irresistible blackness. It’s like the ending of ZARDOZ where the pampered elites surrender to the orgasmic thrill of the barbarian invasion.

    It’s like a white guy and white woman will run to the suburbs from blacks. But white boys will indulge in sports, which is essentially cuckold festival as black studs dominate the field and are cheered by ass-shaking white cheerleaders(to the delight of wussified white boys who also shriek like girls). And white women will look for Negro mates.

    US is finished. But then so is EU. It’s only a matter of time. When the unity of man and woman is broken, it’s all over. What is race? It’s all about men and women of a race sticking together and producing more of their own. White women have been made to see white men as ‘racists’ and ‘wussies’. And white men have been conditioned to grovel. When white males are not groveling to blacks and mulattos, they are groveling to Jews and homos. What kind of men are these?

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  40. J1234 says:

    “….homeowners whose property values were deliberately trashed in a failed attempt to boost Democratic turnout deserve reparation checks from Eric Holder, Jay Nixon, George Crump, Al Sharpton, and Barack Obama.”

    Don’t forget the media – they’re responsible, too. From the Rodney King riots to Ferguson, tacit approval has been interwoven into their coverage, to one degree or another.

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  41. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @grey enlightenment
    As businesses leave, the area will fall further into despair. But LA recovered well after its riots, while Detroit didn't. Probably other factors at play

    LA has major industries like entertainment and nice weather.

    Detroit had foreign auto competition and domestic auto production competition as Southern states attracted auto manufacturers to produce in the South. Also Detroit has bad weather.

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  42. A story in the St. Louis Post Dispatch on the murder of Deandre Joshua had the following comment by a black reader:

    “The reason for black on black crime is the white police and teachers that hate us.”

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  43. M_Young says:

    “We cannot get along. We have different cultures and goals. We should separate.”

    Link minister Farakhan says: reparations then separation.

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  44. Jefferson says:

    “Most of what I saw being burned/looted were black businesses and huge national chains… so… yeah…

    Made bed… lie… etc”

    McDonalds is extremely Black friendly, yet they were still looted by Blacks in Ferguson. The majority of American McDonalds commercials not even feature White people anymore.

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  45. donut says:
    @Anon
    It's time to start prosecuting the media for promoting terrorism and racketeering. Printing lies to encourage a riot fits the definition of terrorism, especially if you're doing it for political reasons and have decided you're okay with killing, coercing, or otherwise harming people to get your way. That's exactly how a terrorist thinks and behaves.

    At the very least, the city of Ferguson needs to take The New York Times and other outlets to court and make them pay damages for lying in print. It would be easy to do, since Ferguson can prove it was materially harmed by the lies. Make the Times pay to rebuild those businesses and cough up overtime pay for the cops is the very least the city should do.

    Which media do you think they will censor first ? This or the NYT ?

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  46. @Ripple Earthdevil
    It's Benjamin Crump, not George.

    Right, George Crump was the golf course architect of Pine Valley.

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  47. IgorR says:

    Will there be reparations to the families of the Benghazi four for the order to stand down? To the Syrian Christians who died because weapons were smuggle to fight Assad? To the Libyans who died when the strongman who prevented the wholesale slaughter was taken down on the flimsiest of excuses? To the victims of every knockout game perpetrated because of the incitement and tolerance violence against whites and Asians by the same characters that are responsible for the burning of Ferguson (perhaps minus Nixon but plus Jesse Jackson)?

    There will never be any reparations. The country is gripped by madness where good is called evil and evil is good. But with apologies to the Beach Boys, here is a song for the moment:

    I, I love the stylish clothes they wear
    And the way their hoodies cover up their hair
    I hear the sound of some angry words
    On the wind that lifts the ashes through the air

    I’m pickin’ up bad vibrations
    I’m hoping for reparations
    I’m pickin’ up bad vibrations
    (Oom bop bop bad vibrations)
    (Oom bop bop reparations)
    They’re giving me the excitations

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  48. Here’s an interesting statistic for you:

    White-Americans have approximately 4x the incarceration rate of White-Canadians. Roughly 380/100,000 v.s. 90/100,000. Even more interesting is that Black-Canadians and White-Americans have similar incarceration rates.

    Using normal probability distributions, I calculate that White-Americans are roughly 0.46 standard deviations higher in criminality than White-Canadians.

    I explored the possibility that perhaps our higher incarceration rates don’t reflect greater criminality, just harsher sentencing and more effective policing. The problem with that theory is that our race-adjusted rates of homicide and other criminal activities still exceed those of Canada. For example, White-Americans commit homicide more often than White-Canadians. If we really did have a stricter system in place, we wouldn’t expect these disparities to persist.

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    White-Americans have approximately 4x the incarceration rate of White-Canadians
     
    How many of your "White-Americans" have names ending in Z? (And I don't mean Tadeusz or Horowitz!)

    White-Americans commit homicide more often than White-Canadians
     
    Thirteen of them just by this one "White-American".
    , @The most deplorable one
    You seem not to be aware that there is no separate crime category for Hispanics, so they get lumped in with Whites.

    If you are Canadian, then I can see why people think Canadians are full of shit.
    , @Anonymous
    "White-Americans have approximately 4X the incarceration rates of White-Canadians....Black-Canadians and White Americans have similar incarceration rates."

    As A Canadian i wouldn't read much into that sport. The Canadian justice system is very, very lax. Also many brown-skinned people are bizarrely labeled as "white" in the USA (Hello, George Zimmerman). Its an apples and oranges comparison all around.

    As for "black-Canadians", if by that you mean the Jamaicans, West Indians and more recently Somalis that have been pouring in here since Trudeau started letting them come here in the 1960's, trust me, they have brought a tsunami of crime and violence to our once amazingly peaceful city of Toronto.
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  49. E. Harding says: • Website

    In addition to the other factors commenters here have pointed out, the LA metro area is surrounded by the sea on two sides and by mountains on the other two. It is the most densely inhabited urbanized area in the country.

    http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/2010_census/cb12-50.html

    Detroit is surrounded by water on one side and by wide open plains on three. Also, Hollywood, unlike GM, hasn’t lost its luster.

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  50. @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's an interesting statistic for you:

    White-Americans have approximately 4x the incarceration rate of White-Canadians. Roughly 380/100,000 v.s. 90/100,000. Even more interesting is that Black-Canadians and White-Americans have similar incarceration rates.

    Using normal probability distributions, I calculate that White-Americans are roughly 0.46 standard deviations higher in criminality than White-Canadians.

    I explored the possibility that perhaps our higher incarceration rates don't reflect greater criminality, just harsher sentencing and more effective policing. The problem with that theory is that our race-adjusted rates of homicide and other criminal activities still exceed those of Canada. For example, White-Americans commit homicide more often than White-Canadians. If we really did have a stricter system in place, we wouldn't expect these disparities to persist.

    White-Americans have approximately 4x the incarceration rate of White-Canadians

    How many of your “White-Americans” have names ending in Z? (And I don’t mean Tadeusz or Horowitz!)

    White-Americans commit homicide more often than White-Canadians

    Thirteen of them just by this one “White-American”.

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  51. Jefferson says:

    Yahoo article trying to paint Michael Brown as the epitome of Christianity.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bloody-gun-wavering-witnesses-spur-050101632.html?bcmt=comments-postbox

    “On the morning he was shot, Brown stopped to tell a construction worker that he should turn to Jesus Christ to control his anger.

    Brown talked about God and wanted to take on household repair jobs for people of little means, according to one resident.”

    Yeah Michael Brown was such a good wholesome Christian choir boy. He disobeyed one of the 10 Commandments on the day that he committed strong arm robbery and that is “Thou Shall Not Steal”.

    If Jesus Christ was alive today and he entered a convenience store, he would pay for any item that he took and would not have committed strong arm robbery.

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  52. Jefferson says:

    “@Johnny_Walker

    White-Americans have approximately 4x the incarceration rate of White-Canadians

    How many of your “White-Americans” have names ending in Z? (And I don’t mean Tadeusz or Horowitz!)

    White-Americans commit homicide more often than White-Canadians

    Thirteen of them just by this one “White-American”.

    Not just Mestizos, I have even seen Afro Hispanic criminals classified as “White”. Law enforcement assumes any criminal with a Spanish last name must automatically be a Conquistador.

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  53. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's an interesting statistic for you:

    White-Americans have approximately 4x the incarceration rate of White-Canadians. Roughly 380/100,000 v.s. 90/100,000. Even more interesting is that Black-Canadians and White-Americans have similar incarceration rates.

    Using normal probability distributions, I calculate that White-Americans are roughly 0.46 standard deviations higher in criminality than White-Canadians.

    I explored the possibility that perhaps our higher incarceration rates don't reflect greater criminality, just harsher sentencing and more effective policing. The problem with that theory is that our race-adjusted rates of homicide and other criminal activities still exceed those of Canada. For example, White-Americans commit homicide more often than White-Canadians. If we really did have a stricter system in place, we wouldn't expect these disparities to persist.

    You seem not to be aware that there is no separate crime category for Hispanics, so they get lumped in with Whites.

    If you are Canadian, then I can see why people think Canadians are full of shit.

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  54. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    Can you say "food desert"?

    Yeah, can’t imagine why supermarket chains are hesitant to open up in areas that are almost always one “chimp-out” away from burning to the ground.

    If you ran a supermarket would YOU open up shop in Ferguson, or any non-white majority city? I sure as hell wouldn’t.

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  55. I have long advocated paying reparations to blacks who meet certain criteria. They must prove that thay are in fact 11/16 biologically descended from actual slaves, they must be between 21 and 60, etc. We will give them an honest nest egg-I’m thinking about $150K, half in payments over 25 years, plus other benefits….but one of those benefits is that they get on a jet (or a ship if they prefer) and never come back. No reparations without separation.

    They have to find a country that will take them, of course.

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  57. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon
    "Paul Kersey says:

    Pure nonsense, Steve.

    The St. Louis Post-Dispatch noted 49 percent of mortgages in 67 percent black Ferguson were UNDERWATER… in an article published on May 9, 2014.

    The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less."

    You are probably right that Ferguson was headed south already (although a frequent poster hereabouts - Art Deco - assures us that it was just peachy, section 8 not-withstanding). But the recent events will accelerate it's decline. Who will want to insure a business in Ferguson now? What white person, when moving into the St. Louis area, would look at a Ferguson listing and think - yeah, Ferguson - that's the place for me!

    The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.

    No, it is not, Kersey, for reasons stated again and again. It’s a suburban township predominantly composed of owner-occupiers where Section 8 voucher recipients amount to 5.5% of the total.

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    Correction. HUD reports 8.4% are Section 8 recipients. The mean for the St. Louis MSA in Missouri is 1.5%
    , @Kylie
    IIRC, Paul Kersey doesn't mean Ferguson is loaded with Section 8 recipients. He means even the comparitive few that are there were enough to provoke white flight.
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  58. stunned says:

    Johnny Walker-

    You would be very surprised how many of those “ez” ending names are Sephardic in origin.

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  59. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Art Deco
    The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.

    No, it is not, Kersey, for reasons stated again and again. It's a suburban township predominantly composed of owner-occupiers where Section 8 voucher recipients amount to 5.5% of the total.

    Correction. HUD reports 8.4% are Section 8 recipients. The mean for the St. Louis MSA in Missouri is 1.5%

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  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @grey enlightenment
    As businesses leave, the area will fall further into despair. But LA recovered well after its riots, while Detroit didn't. Probably other factors at play

    “LA recovered, while Detroit didn’t. Probably other factors at play.”

    Hasn’t LA been pretty much ethnically cleansed of its blacks by Mexicans and other Latin-types? A quick internet search shows Detroit about 85% black. LA county shows about 8.3% black, or about ten times fewer. What this suggests to me is that once a black population reaches a certain tipping point the inevitable downward spiral begins. The question becomes what exact percentage is the tipping point? I’m going to say 20%?

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  61. iSteveFan says:

    I still see the protesters shouting, “hands up, don’t shoot. hands up, don’t shoot.”

    Why don’t the business owners in Ferguson respond with, “hands up, don’t loot. hands up, don’t loot.”

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    They did. Lol.

    Well more like "Pants up, don't loot."
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  62. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's an interesting statistic for you:

    White-Americans have approximately 4x the incarceration rate of White-Canadians. Roughly 380/100,000 v.s. 90/100,000. Even more interesting is that Black-Canadians and White-Americans have similar incarceration rates.

    Using normal probability distributions, I calculate that White-Americans are roughly 0.46 standard deviations higher in criminality than White-Canadians.

    I explored the possibility that perhaps our higher incarceration rates don't reflect greater criminality, just harsher sentencing and more effective policing. The problem with that theory is that our race-adjusted rates of homicide and other criminal activities still exceed those of Canada. For example, White-Americans commit homicide more often than White-Canadians. If we really did have a stricter system in place, we wouldn't expect these disparities to persist.

    “White-Americans have approximately 4X the incarceration rates of White-Canadians….Black-Canadians and White Americans have similar incarceration rates.”

    As A Canadian i wouldn’t read much into that sport. The Canadian justice system is very, very lax. Also many brown-skinned people are bizarrely labeled as “white” in the USA (Hello, George Zimmerman). Its an apples and oranges comparison all around.

    As for “black-Canadians”, if by that you mean the Jamaicans, West Indians and more recently Somalis that have been pouring in here since Trudeau started letting them come here in the 1960′s, trust me, they have brought a tsunami of crime and violence to our once amazingly peaceful city of Toronto.

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  63. josh says:
    @Anonymous
    LA recovered because it's next to the Pacific Ocean and has the best weather in the contiguous 48.

    LA recovered?

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  64. In Obamas book he recounts how he was the only one who went out to talk ‘Guys can’t we take this somewhere else?’ to blacks outside the uni halls of residence with a raise the dead volume ghetto blaster in the early hours . Obama could and should have at least tried to prevent this.

    After recounting his “confrontation” with the fellows in the car, Obama ends with, “I turn back toward my apartment knowing that I’ve been both stupid and lucky, knowing that I am afraid after all.”

    He probably doesn’t want to tell black people to behave themselves and then feel stupid and afraid when they ignore him. Way cooler to subtly egg them on.

    At the very least, the city of Ferguson needs to take The New York Times and other outlets to court and make them pay damages for lying in print. It would be easy to do, since Ferguson can prove it was materially harmed by the lies.

    Look at all the material harm Zimmerman suffered because NBC edited his 911 call to make him look racist (i.e., like a Noticer). His case, as clear-cut as could be, was thrown out. No one stands a chance against the media.

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  65. Karl says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil
    It's Benjamin Crump, not George.

    I’d buy. Dozens of China guys are making bucks by buying Detroit homes for $10K, then selling them for $13K.

    30 percent return on your money. In a few months.

    Warren Buffet used to do that with stocks that took bad-news hits. Buy the morning-after, then sell 90 days later when the dust had settled and the stock had reached its ACTUAL new equilibrium point.

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    People were buying blocks of Detroit houses for $1k a piece a few years ago.
    , @Prof. Woland
    With a cap ratio of 5% you could earn $42 per month. That means if a toilet or water breaks in your rental you would lose the equivalent of six months rent.
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  66. gu says:
    @Anon
    It's time to start prosecuting the media for promoting terrorism and racketeering. Printing lies to encourage a riot fits the definition of terrorism, especially if you're doing it for political reasons and have decided you're okay with killing, coercing, or otherwise harming people to get your way. That's exactly how a terrorist thinks and behaves.

    At the very least, the city of Ferguson needs to take The New York Times and other outlets to court and make them pay damages for lying in print. It would be easy to do, since Ferguson can prove it was materially harmed by the lies. Make the Times pay to rebuild those businesses and cough up overtime pay for the cops is the very least the city should do.

    I know some will disagree with you, but I think this isn’t unreasonable. Either lawfare or assassinations would be morally justified, when you think about it.

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  67. gu says:
    @iSteveFan
    I still see the protesters shouting, "hands up, don't shoot. hands up, don't shoot."

    Why don't the business owners in Ferguson respond with, "hands up, don't loot. hands up, don't loot."

    They did. Lol.

    Well more like “Pants up, don’t loot.”

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  68. Corvinus says:

    “When Obama’s sons looted and burned businesses in Ferguson, they basically declared a war on middle class entrepreneurs who pay taxes.”

    Son, that’s called the underclass. No different than the poor whiteys who rob a convenience store or steal a car.

    “Not good enough. They have to agree to be permanently sterilized too. After that I don’t care if they stay. We need to target this at pubescent Negresses before they breed.”

It was only a matter of time before a Margaret Sanger acolyte appeared.

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  69. Mr. Anon says:

    “Art Deco says:

    “”The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.””

    No, it is not, Kersey, for reasons stated again and again. It’s a suburban township predominantly composed of owner-occupiers where Section 8 voucher recipients amount to 5.5% of the total.”

    For reasons that you state again and again. Nobody believes you. Denatured alcohol is only 5% methanol. Care to drink some?

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    For reasons that you state again and again. Nobody believes you. Denatured alcohol is only 5% methanol. Care to drink some?
     
    Absolutely correct. The Dose Is The Poison.
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  70. Realist says:
    @grey enlightenment
    As businesses leave, the area will fall further into despair. But LA recovered well after its riots, while Detroit didn't. Probably other factors at play

    “Probably other factors at play”
    Tax payer money wasted.

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  71. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Karl
    I'd buy. Dozens of China guys are making bucks by buying Detroit homes for $10K, then selling them for $13K.

    30 percent return on your money. In a few months.

    Warren Buffet used to do that with stocks that took bad-news hits. Buy the morning-after, then sell 90 days later when the dust had settled and the stock had reached its ACTUAL new equilibrium point.

    People were buying blocks of Detroit houses for $1k a piece a few years ago.

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  72. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "Art Deco says:

    ""The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.""

    No, it is not, Kersey, for reasons stated again and again. It’s a suburban township predominantly composed of owner-occupiers where Section 8 voucher recipients amount to 5.5% of the total."

    For reasons that you state again and again. Nobody believes you. Denatured alcohol is only 5% methanol. Care to drink some?

    For reasons that you state again and again. Nobody believes you. Denatured alcohol is only 5% methanol. Care to drink some?

    Absolutely correct. The Dose Is The Poison.

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  73. Kylie says:
    @Art Deco
    The story of Ferguson is of the disaster of Section 8 Vouchers. Nothing more, nothing less.

    No, it is not, Kersey, for reasons stated again and again. It's a suburban township predominantly composed of owner-occupiers where Section 8 voucher recipients amount to 5.5% of the total.

    IIRC, Paul Kersey doesn’t mean Ferguson is loaded with Section 8 recipients. He means even the comparitive few that are there were enough to provoke white flight.

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  74. Jefferson says:

    “People were buying blocks of Detroit houses for $1k a piece a few years ago.”

    It’s cheaper to buy a mansion in Detroit than it is to buy a trailer home in Malibu.

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    Detroit will have to be recolonized. The only way to do it would be to get ambitious hipster couples to chip in and buy a square mile of land then build a fence around it like in the Omega Man.
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  75. Jefferson says:

    A new New York Times article where they once again refer to George Zimmerman as “White”. But this time they refer to George as just straight up White, they don’t even bother referring him to as a “White Hispanic” anymore. The New York Times has upgraded George Zimmerman from “White Hispanic” to just being a regular Non Hispanic White guy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/after-ferguson-announcement-a-racial-divide-remains-over-views-of-justice.html?_r=0

    “For a person of color, it is difficult not to view the Ferguson shooting as part of a continuum: the 2012 shooting of Trayvon Martin, an African-American man, by a white Florida man who was later acquitted of murder; the 2009 fatal shooting of an Oakland black man by a white transit officer who was found guilty of manslaughter instead of murder.”

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  76. Jefferson says:

    The New York Times might as well take a step even further and in future articles where George Zimmerman’s name is mentioned, start referring to him as being blond haired and blue eyed. The 7 foot tall thuggish blond haired and blue eyed George Zimmerman murdered 10 year old Trayvon Martin for passing out food and bibles to elderly homeless people.

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  77. NOTA says:
    @Wilkey
    I support reparations for all blacks, including for those like Somalis and Haitians who aren't actually descended from American slaves. A $200,000 check for anyone under 50 who wants it. Only catch is that you have to surrender your citizenship and move to Africa to cash it.

    Those who refused the check could forever be reminded that they preferred to live with oppressive white people over $200,000 and a chance to live in a country where they rule the roost.

    I think you might want to wait awhile for the ebola outbreak to fade, before you make the offer. Liberia isn’t too appealing even in the best of times, but Liberia in the midst of an ebola outbreak isn’t going to get many takers….

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  78. NOTA says:
    @donut
    Which media do you think they will censor first ? This or the NYT ?

    +1

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  79. NOTA says:

    The only thing those idiots were protesting was the high price of beer.

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  80. @Karl
    I'd buy. Dozens of China guys are making bucks by buying Detroit homes for $10K, then selling them for $13K.

    30 percent return on your money. In a few months.

    Warren Buffet used to do that with stocks that took bad-news hits. Buy the morning-after, then sell 90 days later when the dust had settled and the stock had reached its ACTUAL new equilibrium point.

    With a cap ratio of 5% you could earn $42 per month. That means if a toilet or water breaks in your rental you would lose the equivalent of six months rent.

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  81. @Jefferson
    "People were buying blocks of Detroit houses for $1k a piece a few years ago."

    It's cheaper to buy a mansion in Detroit than it is to buy a trailer home in Malibu.

    Detroit will have to be recolonized. The only way to do it would be to get ambitious hipster couples to chip in and buy a square mile of land then build a fence around it like in the Omega Man.

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  82. Mr. Anon says:

    “Kylie says:

    IIRC, Paul Kersey doesn’t mean Ferguson is loaded with Section 8 recipients. He means even the comparitive few that are there were enough to provoke white flight.”

    Art Deco is apparently immune to reason. Despite the evidence that even a small percentage of section-8ers can ruin a town – Ferguson, by now, being a pretty good example – he is doubling down on HIS story.

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    At 5%, "Section 8" means you're squarely in their crosshairs. Time to get out.
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  83. Art Deco says: • Website

    Art Deco is apparently immune to reason. Despite the evidence that even a small percentage of section-8ers can ruin a town – Ferguson, by now, being a pretty good example – he is doubling down on HIS story.

    What I’m not immune to is basic arithmetic. The crime statistics for Ferguson are available on City-Data, as are those for other working class suburbs. There are no indicators of ruin encoded therein.

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  84. @Mr. Anon
    "Kylie says:

    @Art Deco

    IIRC, Paul Kersey doesn’t mean Ferguson is loaded with Section 8 recipients. He means even the comparitive few that are there were enough to provoke white flight."

    Art Deco is apparently immune to reason. Despite the evidence that even a small percentage of section-8ers can ruin a town - Ferguson, by now, being a pretty good example - he is doubling down on HIS story.

    At 5%, “Section 8″ means you’re squarely in their crosshairs. Time to get out.

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  85. Mr. Anon says:

    “Art Deco says:

    What I’m not immune to is basic arithmetic.”

    You are apparently no good at it, either.

    “The crime statistics for Ferguson are available on City-Data, as are those for other working class suburbs. There are no indicators of ruin encoded therein.”

    And yet a good deal of Ferguson now lies in ruins and the chief indicator of that ruin was evident to the rest of us. You are just dense, that’s all.

    I ask again – are you in the habit of drinking denatured alcohol? After all, it’s cheaper (no tax) and it’s only 5% poison by volume.

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  86. My statistics for White-Americans v.s. White-Canadians only examined the crime rates of non-Hispanic whites. Hispanics were factored out of the calculations. Even if Hispanics were included, which they weren’t, the Hispanic population is not large enough and not incarceration-prone enough to significantly change the figures for whites. So we’re still left with a situation in which non-Hispanic White-Americans are incarcerated at 4x the rate of White-Canadians.

    It’s possible that the Canadian system is less punitive than the American system, but the problem with that reasoning is this. If we assume the Canadian system is less punitive, we’d expect Canada to have higher race-adjusted crime rates – similar to how American crime rates used to be higher before the massive increase in incarceration during the 1990s. In reality, Canada has lower crime rates for all major ethnic groups.

    Black-Canadians have an incarceration rate roughly equal to White-Americans. White-Canadians have roughly 1/4th the incarceration rate. The trend of blacks being incarcerated more than whites is true both in Canada and America, but the white rate is much lower in Canada.

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  87. Jefferson says:

    “Even if Hispanics were included, which they weren’t, the Hispanic population is not large enough and not incarceration-prone enough to significantly change the figures for whites.”

    Hispanics are not incarceration prone enough ? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Pretty much every maximum security prison in The United States has a large enough Hispanic presence among the inmates that you you will find Hispanic prison gangs.

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  88. Mike Zwick [AKA "Dahinda"] says:

    James Kunstler has a good take on this: http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/5289/

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