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Bryan Caplan has a new book: Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration.

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  1. • LOL: L Woods
    • Replies: @Anon
    Eah, I have been seeing the meme about white nationalist violence pop up in a lot of the "comedy" news shows lately too.

    The only actual source I've ever seen is just a list of domestic violence and drug related murders committed by losers who got a swastika tattoo in prison. These guys are hardly political activists.

    If we used a similar methodology regarding black criminals, we would quickly decide that black nationalism was the biggest scourge affecting our country.

    Caplan is very wrong about immigration, but generally intellectually honest. I'm surprised he fell for such blatant political lies. But I suppose none of us look too deeply into the little tidbits we hear that confirm our priors.
    , @anon
    kinda kryptic why Caplan is not spelled the more common Kaplan
    , @Anonymous
    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It's a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.

    I view whites lashing out violently as being akin to the white suicide rate rising. Some people will get angry and lash out at others, some will feel sadness and take their own life -- It depends on personal psychology, but the source of both problems is the same. If whites suddenly become much more violent or despondent, there are reasons. The concept of 'white fragility' has already been rolled out to explain this away.

    Watching this stuff being drummed up is a surreal experience. It's leading us all somewhere not very nice.
    , @Jack D
    Hot off the presses from 2011. I assume this is a joke - Caplan is too bright to mean this seriously.

    But it's true that while the Jim Crow system had a veneer of legality, ultimately it was backed by the threat of white criminal violence against blacks who stepped out of line. Most Southern blacks had enough sense not to challenge the system and get themselves killed, so there was no vast body count (but Emmett Till didn't).

    , @Ragno
    That clinches it.

    Having worn the tread off the tires of 'fascist', 'bigot', 'Nazi', 'neo-Nazi' and 'white supremacist', the millenial Bolsheviks determined to watch the Western world burn - and the cultural-Marxist puppeteers who yank their strings - are now lashing themselves to the wheel of "WHITE NATIONALIST".

    Of course, this unprecedented wave of racism disguised as "anti-racism" - ongoing for a decade now, but raging like an out-of-control forest fire for the past 3/4 years - demonstrates only that the scuttlefish who peered up at normal folks from the dungeons of their own neuroses no longer fear the objects of their hatred. Perhaps watching and reading our vaunted chattering classes in the media blithely shouting fire! in crowded places, with zero consequences following, has emboldened them.

    Antifa are not only legal but legally untouchable; bomb-tossing elected radicals are swooned over by our nation's intellectual gatekeepers. In the meantime, patriots and citizens loyal to our Constitution, who have lived their lives playing by the rules, now exist with bullseyes drawn on their backs, and wait for the next outrage driving them further into the hinterlands.

    "White nationalism" isn't just a slur; it's in all likelihood, the only road back to civilization. You're better off by far on a Bad Guy list than to have your name erased altogether.
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1116006071863320578
  2. I know zilch about whether Bryan or Zach is the cartoonist here, but whoever is the artist has captured that wide-eyed AOC look, like everyone is just amazed and hopeful that everything will just work out. “Open Borders”? No problem, if we just stay amazed and hopeful.

    • Replies: @Boswald Bollocksworth
    The witness, Soylent Grins of the figures struck me as well. Has Caplin ever seen immigrants? Aren’t Arabs, Mestizos and South Asians a little more stone faced? A little more obese? I’d like to take him to my local Walmart, rub his face in diverse diversity.

    Caplanian open borders is such a stupid positions it’s hard to know where to begin attacking it. Caplan is not an honest analyst on this issue, and the cheesy cartoon propaganda on this cover conforms with this conclusion.
    , @Moral Stone
    The cartoonist is certainly Zach Weinersmith, of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. He actually has some pretty funny comics but he's definitely in the tech-utopia bubble that houses a lot of overly optimistic people. In discussing the book, he says that he thinks the and Caplan can justify completely open borders even under an "America first" paradigm, which seems on the surface ridiculous. He also says that we should have unlimited immigration even if we believe what IQ stats tell us about third-world countries, which is an argument I would be interested to read.

    Here's the link to his description: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/open-borders
    , @CrunchybutRealistCon
    How do you say "Si Se Puede" and "Mucho trabajo, poquito dinero" in Bengali, Urdu and Swahili ?

    These Libertarian types are beyond reckless. They want to immerse the West in a Malthusian nightmare from which we can never escape. Truly they belong in the equivalent of a leper colony for saboteurs of civilization.
    , @Lowe
    As other commenters have noted, Zach is the artist. He has a very successful webcomic called Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. It has been running almost daily for many years. He is clearly very talented and capable.

    But from the way he depicts himself or standins for himself in his comics, it's clear he either has a conscious desire for self abasement, or a self esteem problem. Basically when you see a red-headed man in the comic, he is going to be the butt of the joke.
  3. Open Borders by Bryan Caplan and Zach Wienersmith

    ………….pretending not to notice.

    • Replies: @anon
    Wienersmith's wife is a prof. at Rice U. Her field of interest:

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     
    , @TomSchmidt
    I know what a blacksmith is. What's a Wienersmith?
    , @Alfa158
    They are all having a wonderful time right now; in the driver’s seat, fully in control, pedal to the metal, whizzing along at 100mph and still accelerating, running over their racial enemies like ducklings caught in the road. There are only a handful of them who realize what their joy ride is going to lead to in the future after their policies have destroyed the former US. Ilhan Omar and her ilk are just the first bump in the road. Sooner or later they will be coming up on a curve at 200mph, gently apply the brakes, and the pedal will go to the floor.
    They’ll blame us for the crash.
    , @AnotherDad
    Various commenters complain when i mention the "J" word, but when it's relevant it's relevant.

    I'm ready to buy that Byran Caplan is a true autistic with no feeling for actual peoples and cultures and human life, and so actually sees people and nations as arbitrary fungible entities.

    Still, there simply is no actual libertarian case for Open Borders. Open borders is not libertarian, but would be the most massive socialist project ever, stealing from some people to give stuff to other people. It's classic a "tragedy of the commons" paradigm which libertarians all at least pretend to understand and use to argue for privatization.

    An actual libertarian immigration model would be tradeable citizenship and/or a community selling citizenship. I.e. people who currently generate positive externalities would be free to realize those benefits, and people of quality who likely would generate positive externalities somewhere else are free to negoitate the best possible terms to do so. I.e. individuals get to realize the benefits--or incur the costs--associated with living around them. (The same way companies only make job offers to some people and don't offer everyone the same wage.)

    That is actual libertarianism, and it's not the least bit difficult to grasp, and it flows right out of the sorts of models the libertarians build. But when it comes to immigration .... Caplan hates it.

    I can only conclude that Caplan simply hates the white gentiles being allow to go off and do anything--including building nice nations--for themselves. It just ... gets under his skin.

  4. Well, I am sure that they will provide an even-handed intelligent discussion of the issues involved. I mean if you cannot trust Bryan Capland and Zachwienersmith, who can we trust ? I mean they must be worried about our best interests.

  5. However would we cope without people called ‘Caplan’ and ‘Weinersmith’?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    However would we cope without people called ‘Caplan’ and ‘Weinersmith’?
     
    I don't want to learn what's inside a weinersmithy, nor see its product on the shelves.
  6. Kyle Korver a white NBA player writes a brace and honest article about the evils of white privilrge

    The tide is turning

    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Neglects to mention the black thug that stabbed someone creating the whole incident.

    Best not to rely on semi literate millionaire jocks for social critique. Invariably reverts to we should be able to do whatever the fuck we want.
    , @Toddy Cat
    That's great, I'm always up for a brace and honest article about privirge...

    Spellcheck must be racist or something.
    , @fish
    Ohs Tinys……


    #nobody cares
    , @Clyde
    TDuck is in dire need of a mind check, grammar check, spell check, blaque check. Not necessarily in that order.
    , @TWS
    Do you feel more, 'Tiny Duckish' when you're hammered? Perhaps you should get help for your alcoholism? When you cannot use spell check you're too drunk to type.
  7. This land’s not your land,
    This land is their land,
    From Mogadishu,
    To Ellis Island,
    If you’re a white dude,
    Then you are just screwed,
    F**k off, this land is not for you!

    • LOL: DFH, Clyde
  8. Bryan?

    William Jennings Bryan on Chinese Immigration

    If every American could visit China, the question of Chinese immigration would soon be settled upon a permanent basis, for no one can become acquainted with the Chinese coolie without recognizing the impossibility of opening the doors of our country to him without injustice to our social ideas, injury to China’s reputation among us and danger to our diplomatic relations with that country, wrote William Jennings Bryan in 1906.

    Los Angeles Herald, 9/26/1908

    • Replies: @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
    , @AnotherDad
    I can't tell from the Bryan quote here exactly what he thinks of the Chinese.

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.

    The Chinese Exclusion Act was the sort of wise far-sighted leadership--of the sort Baden-Powell spoke of in his "Rivers of Blood" speech--actually standing up for the existing citizens of the nation. I'm very, very glad my ancestors had the opportunity to work hard and build lives in a nation not flooded with Chinese.

    And the same goes for today. I don't want my kids to have to compete with a flood of Chinese. It's not that they aren't competitive, they are all far smarter than the average Chinese. But if forced to compete with tens of millions of Chinese ... then they'd have to start living lives like the Chinese. No thanks. And for what purpose? None.

    Let the Chinese build their paradise in China, according to Chinese norms, customs, values. That's all well and good. Americans should do the same in America. And we should deport this odious Caplan creep to wherever will take him, or set him adrift. He's not an American and does not belong here.
  9. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Open Borders by Bryan Caplan and Zach Wienersmith
     
    .............pretending not to notice.

    Wienersmith’s wife is a prof. at Rice U. Her field of interest:

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @El Dato
    Life writes the best stories.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    If you do a search to find out more about Weinersmith, you come upon this Rice University paper coauthored by her:

    Insidious wasp gets ahead by tunneling through host’s head

    "Rice researchers nicknamed it the “crypt-keeper” wasp and said it’s a rare example of hypermanipulation, in which a parasite is manipulated by another parasite.

    "E. set and its gory emergence are described in two papers led by Rice evolutionary biologists Kelly Weinersmith and Scott Egan."

     

    It's good to know Kelly Weinersmith has her eye on the wasps.
    , @JimB
    I

    ’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     
    Toxoplasma gondii from cat litter boxes makes white women vote for Democrats.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    anon, change "risk of infection" to "risk of inundation" and "parasite" to "illegal immigrant" Reads better that way.
    , @ben tillman

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     
    My kind of woman.
  10. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    George Borjas should write a follow up to his most recent book We Wanted Workers. He should call it, We Wanted Donkey Shows.

  11. To Serve Man

    Rod Serling often worked into the wee hours the night before filming, not getting ideas until the last minute and rushing to get them done for the cast.

    I wonder if this was one of those. And the plastic surgery one, too.

    Or were the bad ones rush jobs?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    It was a short story from 1950, adapted for The Twilight Zone in 1962:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man

    Philip K. Dick had a similar one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(story)
    , @Mr. Anon
    I saw a number of Twilight Zone episodes; running in syndication, they were a staple of off-network TV in the 70s and 80s. And what did I learn from them (for clearly, they were intended to teach us lessons)?

    That attractive (white, blonde) women like the one in that episode you linked to, aren't really pretty. You just think that because of cruel social conventions.

    Or this one - The Monsters are due on Maple Street:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9z1f9kL_CY

    Your peaceful law-abiding neighbors can easily - with no provocation actually - turn into snarling dangerous animals. This middle-brow social criticism is supposed to be provacative and oh-so insightful. But isn't it really itself just a form of the paranoia it supposedly criticizes? Rod Serling probably thought he was holding up a mirror to reveal our inner demons. But just whose demons were on display there?

    Boomer America watched all this stuff they were kids and drank it in like milk without thinking much about it. But that doesn't mean it had no effect on them. Or that it wasn't intended to.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    To Serve Man was a short story predating the show, and Serling also showed the short film adapted from Ambrose Bierce's " An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge " as an episode as well.
  12. @DFH
    However would we cope without people called 'Caplan' and 'Weinersmith'?

    However would we cope without people called ‘Caplan’ and ‘Weinersmith’?

    I don’t want to learn what’s inside a weinersmithy, nor see its product on the shelves.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    “Tearjerker” is my guess.
    , @Jack D
    Weinersmith is a made up name. His real named is Weiner, he married someone named Smith and they both took the name Weinersmith.

    Maybe this is a perfect name for the WASP-Jewish elite that dominates the media and academia - it would be an improvement on just blaming it all on the Joos or using ((parentheses)). The Nazis forced all male Jews to take the middle name "Israel" (unless their first name was already Israel). Maybe we need to pass a law to require all WASP-Jewish hybrids (by blood or ideology) who are not already named Weinersmith to take the middle name Weinersmith to indicate that they are no longer either Jewish or WASP but have embraced the Globohomo agenda. Arthur Weinersmith Sulzberger. Katherine Weinersmith Graham. Chelsea Weinersmith Clinton and her husband Mark Weinersmith Mezvinsky. Etc.

    Or else just make it descriptive - "Oh, look at him, he's a real Weinersmith."

  13. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    As the old quip goes the Oscar Awarding people who style themselves as ‘The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences’, (or some such), contains ‘neither Art nor Science’.

    Caplan advocated massive uncontrolled unlimited immigration likewise contains absolutely no Ethics nor any Science.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Someone please take Caplan's book, "The Case Against Education"; cross out the word "education" throughout, replace it with "immigration", and mail the book to precious Bryan.

    Here's the Amazon blurb with some editing:

    Why we need to stop wasting public funds on immigration

    Despite being immensely popular--and immensely lucrative--immigration is grossly overrated. In this explosive book, Bryan Caplan argues that the primary function of immigration is not to enhance anything, but to signal the qualities of a good White person. Learn why decades of growing access to immigration has not resulted in better jobs for the average worker but instead in runaway credential inflation, how employers reward workers for costly schooling they rarely if ever use, and why cutting immigration spending is the best remedy.

    Caplan draws on the latest social science to show how the labor market values political positions over ability, and why the more immigration your rivals have, the more you need to impress politicians and media lackeys. He explains why PC is our society's top conformity signal, and why even the most useless asylum seeker gets status over natives. He advocates two major policy responses. The first is immigration austerity. Government needs to sharply cut immigration funding to curb this wasteful rat race. The second is more vocational immigration, because practical skills are more socially valuable than nice White ladies adopting a thug.

    Romantic notions about immigration being "good for the soul" must yield to careful research and common sense--The Case against Immigration points the way.

  14. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘It’s a comic book’.

    Yes, and a particularly dumb one at that. Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck have vastly more credibility and intelligence.

    • Replies: @Elmer T. Jones
    "It's a comic book"

    So is Genius T. Coates and The Temple of Gibs, but that does not detract from their importance in igniting national conversations on topics that are affecting lives of people of color.

  15. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:

    He seems to think that the main reason people oppose open borders is that they fear terrorism and murder. Maybe he thinks Trump’s literal sound bites literally reflect what he and we are thinking.

    As for culture, he thinks that kids will assimilate in a couple of generations. I think his underlying idea is that, sure the culture and social norms will change, but kids will speak native English, and you’ll be dead by then anyway, so who cares what you think. You don’t have a vote in the future.

    My argument is that, yes I do have a vote in the future, and ideally I want to keep as homogeneous a culture as possible to minimize friction, and culture doesn’t fade that fast, for both cultural and genetic reasons.. With blacks from slavery, we’re stuck with them. But let’s not make it any worse if possible. Look at Asian Americans. Their uppitiness skipped several generations. They assimilated in language, BMI, and many other traits, and all of a sudden they are disassimilating and becoming indentity politics nuts.

    The guy has a weird, hyper affect and way of speaking, and patchy, scraggly facial hair that comes off more like 4-days without shaving rather than a beard. He also has a smirk. And that downtalk verbal tic.

    I really liked his book from last year, The Case against Eduction, and I was aware of this upcoming comic, but seeing him on Rubin makes me think he’s a twerp.

    And who was the slack-jawed alien on the Twilight Zone? Richard Kiel, at 7-foot 1-1/2 inches almost as tall as Steve Sailer.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Isn't that Jaws?

    Man, I was so excited by the kendo in "Moonraker"!

    I used to think the bad guy in Moonraker was a villain. Nowadays, I think he's a rather sympathetic character.
  16. Bryan Caplan is the classic case of an academic who is both brilliant and tragically narrow. On the one hand, he did The Case Against Education. I have to agree with Robin Hanson at Overcoming Bias, who called it “excellent”.
    However…Bryan also lost a debate about open borders at Intelligence Squared by the biggest margin ever, against our host’s host, the estimable Ron Unz. He kept evoking the prospect of Haitians making 20X more when they get here. I think the audience, who also judges the debate, must have had some doubts about how quickly a group who eats cookies made of dirt could be acculturated to the US.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Bryan Caplan himself is the best exemplar possible for 'the case against education'.
    , @Anonymous
    The man's full of shit.

    Here we have someone whose whole career, income and whatever unwarranted reputation he has is dependent on the Great American Education Racket.

    Rather than do the honorable thing and completely disavow and separate himself from education/industrial complex, he continued to pull in a rather nifty income and bennies from the same.
    Rather like an abolitionist have stock in a slave shipping line.
  17. “by Bryan Caplan and Zach Weinersmith”

    No further questions, your honor.

  18. “To Serve Man” one of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes as well as depressing.

  19. Caplan and Weinersmith.

    They really do hate us, don’t they?

    • Replies: @Gordo
    Yes.
  20. @Reg Cæsar

    To Serve Man
     
    Rod Serling often worked into the wee hours the night before filming, not getting ideas until the last minute and rushing to get them done for the cast.

    I wonder if this was one of those. And the plastic surgery one, too.

    Or were the bad ones rush jobs?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puo82y6MsBQ

    It was a short story from 1950, adapted for The Twilight Zone in 1962:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man

    Philip K. Dick had a similar one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(story)

  21. @anon
    Wienersmith's wife is a prof. at Rice U. Her field of interest:

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     

    Life writes the best stories.

  22. Well, if the current immigrants kids do acculturate, they’ll want to earn more money, so we need more immigrants to do the work Americans won’t do cheaply.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  23. If this is a comic book, I assume the target market is schools, which makes it not so funny after all.

    • Replies: @res

    If this is a comic book, I assume the target market is schools, which makes it not so funny after all.
     
    I think you are right. Amazon has this in the Educational & Nonfiction Graphic Novels category where the paperback and hardback are the #1 and #2 best sellers respectively even though the book is 6 months away from release.
    https://www.amazon.com/Open-Borders-Science-Ethics-Immigration/dp/1250316960

    Who is buying this book in that quantity?

    P.S. I initially thought that cover was a parody. We are well beyond the Onion Singularity.
  24. I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and “Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids” is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    • Replies: @B.B.
    he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    Back in 2011 when Caplan was promoting his pro-natalist book, he was interviewed on MSNBC by Dylan Ratigan. Ratigan asked Caplan why China is out-competing the U.S in test scores, and Caplan gave the honest answer that it might be genetic. I'm surprised this didn't seem to cause much controversy. Caplan knows the data on race and IQ, he's just a dogmatic libertarian.

    Here is the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ye_qmuTaY8
    , @roo_ster
    He is just another ((( libertarian ))) preaching libertarianism while sucking the govt teat.
    , @Mr. Anon

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.
     
    An economics professor who thinks that everybody is as smart as economics professors is not a smart man. Or at least not an honest one.
    , @Father O'Hara
    His soul,if he has one,is infested with hatred of white people!! Who cares if he is smart,if his ability is being used to cause massive harm to our People???
    , @Massimo Heitor

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.
     
    Bryan Caplan believes the complete opposite of this.

    He says a cab driver or a hair dresser in Haiti or Rwanda can move to the US, do the exact same work, and make an order of magnitude more money for the exact same work. He's right. He doesn't think every cab driver should be a university professor. Quite the opposite.

    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and “Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids” is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage..
     
    Caplan is wise and often shockingly honest. On this issue, he is very deliberately manipulating and misleading people. And he even admits to that.

    People want to keep their ethnic and linguistic and nationalistic identities and Caplan pretty openly advocates tricking them so that they can't have that.
    , @guest
    Caplan is the sort of Cato person distracted by pointless intellectual puzzles like "rational irrationality," thinks public choice is a catchy name, and pretends anarcho-capitalism is possible. Pfft.

    No one ever thought voters were rational, Bry. And no one cares open-border libertarians can put their names on comic books.

  25. @Reg Cæsar

    However would we cope without people called ‘Caplan’ and ‘Weinersmith’?
     
    I don't want to learn what's inside a weinersmithy, nor see its product on the shelves.

    “Tearjerker” is my guess.

  26. @Moses
    Caplan and Weinersmith.

    They really do hate us, don't they?

    Yes.

  27. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/151464146578313216

    Eah, I have been seeing the meme about white nationalist violence pop up in a lot of the “comedy” news shows lately too.

    The only actual source I’ve ever seen is just a list of domestic violence and drug related murders committed by losers who got a swastika tattoo in prison. These guys are hardly political activists.

    If we used a similar methodology regarding black criminals, we would quickly decide that black nationalism was the biggest scourge affecting our country.

    Caplan is very wrong about immigration, but generally intellectually honest. I’m surprised he fell for such blatant political lies. But I suppose none of us look too deeply into the little tidbits we hear that confirm our priors.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Jack D
    Eah, I have been seeing the meme about white nationalist violence pop up in a lot of the “comedy” news shows lately too.

    Look at the date of the Tweet.
  28. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:

    Caplan was actually a pretty big factor in moving me in the direction of the alt right. I had been reading him for years over at econlog and he was one of my favorite writers.

    It was only when he started pushing hard for open borders that I started really questioning the whole libertarian premise. The only people with actual answers to his arguments were in the alt right. I wonder how many other “right wing extremists” he inadvertently spawned.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    I read one post of his on econlog, that really infuriated me. He basically wrote, that he was for open borders for ideological reasons, but admitted that due to the house prices in his neighborhood he would not be affected by it.
  29. @DuanDiRen
    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    Back in 2011 when Caplan was promoting his pro-natalist book, he was interviewed on MSNBC by Dylan Ratigan. Ratigan asked Caplan why China is out-competing the U.S in test scores, and Caplan gave the honest answer that it might be genetic. I’m surprised this didn’t seem to cause much controversy. Caplan knows the data on race and IQ, he’s just a dogmatic libertarian.

    Here is the interview:

    • Replies: @Clyde
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tX2jK5XHYg
  30. @DuanDiRen
    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    He is just another ((( libertarian ))) preaching libertarianism while sucking the govt teat.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    He is just another ((( libertarian ))) preaching libertarianism while sucking the govt teat.
     
    So True. His cush, detached, autism spectrum proclamations and lifestyle are taxpayer funded due to him being a prof at George Mason, a Virginia public funded university.
    Ranking: #141 National University (2014)

    I suspect he or wifey has large inherited money that also informs and funds his combined care free noblesse oblige/ garbage on immigration.

  31. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Puremania
    Bryan Caplan is the classic case of an academic who is both brilliant and tragically narrow. On the one hand, he did The Case Against Education. I have to agree with Robin Hanson at Overcoming Bias, who called it “excellent”.
    However...Bryan also lost a debate about open borders at Intelligence Squared by the biggest margin ever, against our host’s host, the estimable Ron Unz. He kept evoking the prospect of Haitians making 20X more when they get here. I think the audience, who also judges the debate, must have had some doubts about how quickly a group who eats cookies made of dirt could be acculturated to the US.

    Bryan Caplan himself is the best exemplar possible for ‘the case against education’.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Caplan's choice of a title reveals his clumsiness; it should have been, "The Case Against Schooling".

    He's really not against education; the learning of useful things; he's against the education industrial complex with it's tendency to run people through the institution just for the formality of it all.
  32. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @Puremania
    Bryan Caplan is the classic case of an academic who is both brilliant and tragically narrow. On the one hand, he did The Case Against Education. I have to agree with Robin Hanson at Overcoming Bias, who called it “excellent”.
    However...Bryan also lost a debate about open borders at Intelligence Squared by the biggest margin ever, against our host’s host, the estimable Ron Unz. He kept evoking the prospect of Haitians making 20X more when they get here. I think the audience, who also judges the debate, must have had some doubts about how quickly a group who eats cookies made of dirt could be acculturated to the US.

    The man’s full of shit.

    Here we have someone whose whole career, income and whatever unwarranted reputation he has is dependent on the Great American Education Racket.

    Rather than do the honorable thing and completely disavow and separate himself from education/industrial complex, he continued to pull in a rather nifty income and bennies from the same.
    Rather like an abolitionist have stock in a slave shipping line.

    • Replies: @bomag

    Rather like an abolitionist having stock in a slave shipping line.
     
    LOL

    I'm sure Caplan could rationalize that one.
  33. So I googleImages(“zach weinersmith”). It ain’t just the eyes with this fellow. Looking forward to Heartiste’s analysis.

  34. @eah
    https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/151464146578313216

    kinda kryptic why Caplan is not spelled the more common Kaplan

    • Replies: @Jack D
    There were no strict rules for converting Hebrew/Yiddish names into the Roman alphabet. Sometimes they have been double converted, going from Hebrew into Cyrillic and then Cyrillic into Roman.

    Kaplan/Caplan is already double converted even without going thru the Russian - it is a Yiddishized version of the Latin word capellanus, which made it into English as chaplain. Jews named Kaplan are usually Cohanim - descendants from the Temple priests, so it is an alternate version of Cohen (which also has many variate spellings, some with a K).

    Or else it is a nefarious Jewish plot - take your pick.

  35. @Anonymous
    'It's a comic book'.

    Yes, and a particularly dumb one at that. Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck have vastly more credibility and intelligence.

    “It’s a comic book”

    So is Genius T. Coates and The Temple of Gibs, but that does not detract from their importance in igniting national conversations on topics that are affecting lives of people of color.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    There is no importance. Its the scourge of their behavior and its consequences for decent people, and how to eliminate it in modern society.
  36. @anon
    Wienersmith's wife is a prof. at Rice U. Her field of interest:

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     

    If you do a search to find out more about Weinersmith, you come upon this Rice University paper coauthored by her:

    Insidious wasp gets ahead by tunneling through host’s head

    “Rice researchers nicknamed it the “crypt-keeper” wasp and said it’s a rare example of hypermanipulation, in which a parasite is manipulated by another parasite.

    “E. set and its gory emergence are described in two papers led by Rice evolutionary biologists Kelly Weinersmith and Scott Egan.”

    It’s good to know Kelly Weinersmith has her eye on the wasps.

  37. That’s the shot.

    The chaser is that almost all big name open borders politicians will deny that they are for open borders.

    • Replies: @TWS
    They call it sensible immigration.
  38. @Anonymous
    As the old quip goes the Oscar Awarding people who style themselves as 'The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences', (or some such), contains 'neither Art nor Science'.

    Caplan advocated massive uncontrolled unlimited immigration likewise contains absolutely no Ethics nor any Science.

    Someone please take Caplan’s book, “The Case Against Education”; cross out the word “education” throughout, replace it with “immigration”, and mail the book to precious Bryan.

    Here’s the Amazon blurb with some editing:

    Why we need to stop wasting public funds on immigration

    Despite being immensely popular–and immensely lucrative–immigration is grossly overrated. In this explosive book, Bryan Caplan argues that the primary function of immigration is not to enhance anything, but to signal the qualities of a good White person. Learn why decades of growing access to immigration has not resulted in better jobs for the average worker but instead in runaway credential inflation, how employers reward workers for costly schooling they rarely if ever use, and why cutting immigration spending is the best remedy.

    Caplan draws on the latest social science to show how the labor market values political positions over ability, and why the more immigration your rivals have, the more you need to impress politicians and media lackeys. He explains why PC is our society’s top conformity signal, and why even the most useless asylum seeker gets status over natives. He advocates two major policy responses. The first is immigration austerity. Government needs to sharply cut immigration funding to curb this wasteful rat race. The second is more vocational immigration, because practical skills are more socially valuable than nice White ladies adopting a thug.

    Romantic notions about immigration being “good for the soul” must yield to careful research and common sense–The Case against Immigration points the way.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Someone please take Caplan’s book, “The Case Against Education”; cross out the word “education” throughout, replace it with “immigration”, and mail the book to precious Bryan
     
    Roy Beck was way ahead of you-- and Bryan. As was Mark Krikorian.


    https://d1w7fb2mkkr3kw.cloudfront.net/assets/images/book/lrg/9780/3930/9780393039153.jpg


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WR0AAMXQ9rVQ64Gm/s-l640.jpg
  39. Jack the Ripper was an immigrant.

  40. Why does the Statue of Liberty look like Henry Winkler?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist

    "Why does the Statue of Liberty look like Henry Winkler?"
     
    And why does it look like it is about to ram a butt-plug home?
  41. We should believe the media and welcome our new friends.

  42. @Anonymous
    Bryan Caplan himself is the best exemplar possible for 'the case against education'.

    Caplan’s choice of a title reveals his clumsiness; it should have been, “The Case Against Schooling”.

    He’s really not against education; the learning of useful things; he’s against the education industrial complex with it’s tendency to run people through the institution just for the formality of it all.

    • Replies: @densa
    I am also against the educational-propaganda complex. Why oh why didn't the GOP take on the public employees unions? Their members are used as shock troops for corporate policies masquerading as public policy. They swung the vote on ACA, calling the self-employed who couldn't afford insurance 'free riders' even as the care and feeding of the public employee has made public education unaffordable. Public education is a fat tick draining the community dry of funds to pay for endless inanity such as gender inclusive toilets. Meanwhile, useful education, not so much.

    Unions for public employees should be illegal. The schools negotiate with the unions, both at the expense of the payer who is omitted from their considerations. Public employment is, well public, and not for-profit by definition. A union moves the power center from a local matter to a national mafiosa increasingly in cahoots with big money interest such as GE Healthcare. (That was ACA, now it's Big Pharma and the newly blooming vaccination racket.) Schools are the biggest source of Democratic Party power and the GOP never fights for all the unwilling financiers of it, the taxpayers.
  43. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/151464146578313216

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It’s a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.

    I view whites lashing out violently as being akin to the white suicide rate rising. Some people will get angry and lash out at others, some will feel sadness and take their own life — It depends on personal psychology, but the source of both problems is the same. If whites suddenly become much more violent or despondent, there are reasons. The concept of ‘white fragility’ has already been rolled out to explain this away.

    Watching this stuff being drummed up is a surreal experience. It’s leading us all somewhere not very nice.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Yes, a well explained comment. I believe these Jews and white liberals (tptb) must have some kind of playbook written out. It must span several decades and ultimately leads to white genocide. They are too well organized to not have some central command. What is the central command? I don't know.

    As far as whites being the most murderous demographic, well, we have quite a ways to go before we hit the negro benchmark.

    In fact, I don't think the media pushing whites as a murderous race is a bad thing. It's true. Whites are savage warriors and conquerors. As long as a rising white murder rate doesn't involve other whites, it's a good thing and will actually scare non-whites.

    White suicide rates are a bigger problem, but even then it selects out the weaker white genes.

    It’s leading us all somewhere not very nice.
     
    The plan was to kill off all the whites before we wake up. But whitey has at least a little more fight than (((they))) anticipated. We shall see where this leads.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now.
     
    But if you count what they call the "Good War", and count the USSR as mostly white, it's probably true.

    Skill kills.
    , @Svigor

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now.
     
    The left is best understood, characterologically, as a psychotic Jewish ex-girlfriend. She makes no sense, and contradicts herself constantly. She just spews hatred. E.g., Trump is both a bumbling incompetent, and an evil mastermind. White men are both pathetic losers, and the best killers. White Nationalists are a total joke, and the greatest threat to mankind. Anti-semitism is everywhere, but the goyim are naive boobs who will never catch on. Etc.
    , @Massimo Heitor

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It’s a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.
     
    To quote Ross Douthat from the NYT:

    Yes, the world of nations is full of arbitrary borders, invented traditions, and convenient mythologies layered atop histories of plunder and pillage.

     

    It is true that "white nations" founded by "white people" absolutely used violence and plunder and pillage.

    What is dishonest, or at least highly manipulative, is to suggest that this is particular to white people, and not the norm across all peoples and all nations of history. That's deliberate. Bryan Caplan, to his partial credit, does admit this, although quietly. White identity is very uniquely targeted for suppression and elimination in ways that other ethnic groups are not. Caplan believes all ethnic groupings and identities should be undermined and destroyed, it's just most convenient and viable to target white ethnic identity at this point and time in history.
  44. @Anonymous
    The man's full of shit.

    Here we have someone whose whole career, income and whatever unwarranted reputation he has is dependent on the Great American Education Racket.

    Rather than do the honorable thing and completely disavow and separate himself from education/industrial complex, he continued to pull in a rather nifty income and bennies from the same.
    Rather like an abolitionist have stock in a slave shipping line.

    Rather like an abolitionist having stock in a slave shipping line.

    LOL

    I’m sure Caplan could rationalize that one.

  45. In 1999, writer Alan Moore (of Watchmen comic book fame) had his comic book pulp hero Tom Strong declaim, in the spirit of Lewontin’s Fallacy: “Do you know how much detectible genetic difference there is between you, a Japanese businessman, a Madagascan fisherman or a Hassidic Jew? Precisely none! The racial purity that you’re defending doesn’t even exist!

    Tom Strong #4 – “Swastika Girls!”

    I wonder if Alan Moore picked up his Lewontin’s Fallacy from Steven Rose in England?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    This is like reading a mature version of Girls & Panzer.

    First comment:

    "If the attempt was to aim at middle schoolers, I'm not sure my mom would have let me read a comic involving sexy leather bondage Nazi rapist women."

     

    Anyway, SCIENCE!

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/rethinking-the-ancestry-of-the-eukaryotes-20190409/

    The concept of a pangenome arose in the early 2000s, when scientists realized that reference genome sequences of pathogenic bacteria — the digital databases compiled as standardized descriptions of their genomes — failed to capture the total genetic variation of the organisms. Since then, scientists have realized that pangenomes also play an important role in prokaryotic life. But since the sharing of genes through horizontal gene transfer is much less common in eukaryotes, it’s long been assumed that pangenomes have only limited relevance to understanding eukaryotic species.

    That view is slowly changing. A recent analysis of genomes from four medically important pathogenic fungal species found that they, too, have pangenomes: 10-20 percent of their genome is comprised of accessory genes responsible for important traits like resistance to antimicrobial compounds.

    Even our species has a pangenome. “When we first sequenced the human genome, it was hailed as fantastic — ‘We now have the blueprint for all humans!’ But of course we didn’t,” Wickstead said. A recent study found that nearly 10 percent of the genes from 910 people of African descent weren’t in the human reference genome, for example. “And the missing content of genes within individual genomes is part of the diversity of humans, hence a response to drugs, and the environment, and all sorts of very important things,” Wickstead said.
     
    , @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. The first page has Tom Strong in bed with a black woman. +2 virtue-signal points. Buuuuuuut... it also has a "gorilla" butler serving them. - ∞ points!!! Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!
  46. @Mr. Anon

    Open Borders by Bryan Caplan and Zach Wienersmith
     
    .............pretending not to notice.

    I know what a blacksmith is. What’s a Wienersmith?

    • Replies: @Amanuensis
    Sausage maker?
  47. @DuanDiRen
    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    An economics professor who thinks that everybody is as smart as economics professors is not a smart man. Or at least not an honest one.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
  48. Caplan appears to have teamed up with the popular webcomic SMBC for this gem. Not that surprising, actually, if you’ve read it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Right, I knew I recognized the art style, but couldn't place it.
  49. @anon
    kinda kryptic why Caplan is not spelled the more common Kaplan

    There were no strict rules for converting Hebrew/Yiddish names into the Roman alphabet. Sometimes they have been double converted, going from Hebrew into Cyrillic and then Cyrillic into Roman.

    Kaplan/Caplan is already double converted even without going thru the Russian – it is a Yiddishized version of the Latin word capellanus, which made it into English as chaplain. Jews named Kaplan are usually Cohanim – descendants from the Temple priests, so it is an alternate version of Cohen (which also has many variate spellings, some with a K).

    Or else it is a nefarious Jewish plot – take your pick.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Kaplansky agency insured my car many years ago. Do they count?
    , @MEH 0910
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpQIbgcUDzw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IWsXkNI8
  50. @Reg Cæsar

    To Serve Man
     
    Rod Serling often worked into the wee hours the night before filming, not getting ideas until the last minute and rushing to get them done for the cast.

    I wonder if this was one of those. And the plastic surgery one, too.

    Or were the bad ones rush jobs?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puo82y6MsBQ

    I saw a number of Twilight Zone episodes; running in syndication, they were a staple of off-network TV in the 70s and 80s. And what did I learn from them (for clearly, they were intended to teach us lessons)?

    That attractive (white, blonde) women like the one in that episode you linked to, aren’t really pretty. You just think that because of cruel social conventions.

    Or this one – The Monsters are due on Maple Street:

    Your peaceful law-abiding neighbors can easily – with no provocation actually – turn into snarling dangerous animals. This middle-brow social criticism is supposed to be provacative and oh-so insightful. But isn’t it really itself just a form of the paranoia it supposedly criticizes? Rod Serling probably thought he was holding up a mirror to reveal our inner demons. But just whose demons were on display there?

    Boomer America watched all this stuff they were kids and drank it in like milk without thinking much about it. But that doesn’t mean it had no effect on them. Or that it wasn’t intended to.

    • Replies: @El Dato

    Boomer America watched all this stuff they were kids and drank it in like milk without thinking much about it. But that doesn’t mean it had no effect on them. Or that it wasn’t intended to.

     

    Well it's TV.

    Of course these are all little fables, often with morality, updated for the nuclear age and red scare, featuring MONSTERS! FROM SPAAAACE!

    But so what.

    You can alternatively read "the collected stories of Philip K. Dick"
    , @Known Fact
    The Outer Limits was a lot deeper
  51. @Reg Cæsar
    Bryan?

    William Jennings Bryan on Chinese Immigration

    If every American could visit China, the question of Chinese immigration would soon be settled upon a permanent basis, for no one can become acquainted with the Chinese coolie without recognizing the impossibility of opening the doors of our country to him without injustice to our social ideas, injury to China's reputation among us and danger to our diplomatic relations with that country, wrote William Jennings Bryan in 1906.

    --Los Angeles Herald, 9/26/1908
     

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
     
    That they can stay home?
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Oh, you're a great man, "Jack D." ANYTHING TO MAKE GENTILE AMERICANS LOOK BAD. YOU SOB.

    We get it. We have no right whatsoever to value WHO WE ARE.

    TWO of my ancestors captained clipper ships to China from San Francisso, brought back coolies -- while your ancestors were still living in schtetls in Eastern Europe.

    , @fish

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
     
    You're right Jack…..they'd be crazy to come here!


    That problem wasn't so hard now was it?
    , @AnotherDad

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
     
    That we're going to be in a world of hurt if we keep listening to the Bryan Caplans of this world and rush even further into Brazilification.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China
     
    Never been, but in the pictures all the natives have a weird permanent squint. I assume their terrible smog has burned their corneas. Not smart and not a good look.
    , @istevefan

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
     
    That despite their fancy high-speed trains, despite the booming skyscrapers of Shanghai, despite no fear of crime, etc., the lesson we should take is that China is a shit-hole.

    Yes, China is a shit-hole. And I can say that despite having never been to China. And the reason I can say this is because there is a virtual endless amount of Chinese who want to leave China, and those with the means to do so, do. Additionally, there are an awful lot of Chinese who were born and raised in our crime-ridden, crappy Amtrak nation who have the opportunity to go back to China, but don't.

    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    And what lessons do you learn when you can't actually see any of those things because entire cities are immersed in alveoli-wrecking smog? Even better, what would you see if you were to step outside of the major cities?
  52. @eah
    https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/151464146578313216

    Hot off the presses from 2011. I assume this is a joke – Caplan is too bright to mean this seriously.

    But it’s true that while the Jim Crow system had a veneer of legality, ultimately it was backed by the threat of white criminal violence against blacks who stepped out of line. Most Southern blacks had enough sense not to challenge the system and get themselves killed, so there was no vast body count (but Emmett Till didn’t).

    • Disagree: Chrisnonymous
  53. @Anon
    Caplan was actually a pretty big factor in moving me in the direction of the alt right. I had been reading him for years over at econlog and he was one of my favorite writers.

    It was only when he started pushing hard for open borders that I started really questioning the whole libertarian premise. The only people with actual answers to his arguments were in the alt right. I wonder how many other "right wing extremists" he inadvertently spawned.

    I read one post of his on econlog, that really infuriated me. He basically wrote, that he was for open borders for ideological reasons, but admitted that due to the house prices in his neighborhood he would not be affected by it.

  54. @Anon
    Eah, I have been seeing the meme about white nationalist violence pop up in a lot of the "comedy" news shows lately too.

    The only actual source I've ever seen is just a list of domestic violence and drug related murders committed by losers who got a swastika tattoo in prison. These guys are hardly political activists.

    If we used a similar methodology regarding black criminals, we would quickly decide that black nationalism was the biggest scourge affecting our country.

    Caplan is very wrong about immigration, but generally intellectually honest. I'm surprised he fell for such blatant political lies. But I suppose none of us look too deeply into the little tidbits we hear that confirm our priors.

    Eah, I have been seeing the meme about white nationalist violence pop up in a lot of the “comedy” news shows lately too.

    Look at the date of the Tweet.

  55. @Mr. Anon

    Open Borders by Bryan Caplan and Zach Wienersmith
     
    .............pretending not to notice.

    They are all having a wonderful time right now; in the driver’s seat, fully in control, pedal to the metal, whizzing along at 100mph and still accelerating, running over their racial enemies like ducklings caught in the road. There are only a handful of them who realize what their joy ride is going to lead to in the future after their policies have destroyed the former US. Ilhan Omar and her ilk are just the first bump in the road. Sooner or later they will be coming up on a curve at 200mph, gently apply the brakes, and the pedal will go to the floor.
    They’ll blame us for the crash.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Jewish historians of the future will record that the Americans destroyed their own country, then blamed the Jews.
  56. Jesus, that art style. Even Lady Liberty is making a soyface…

  57. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Kyle Korver a white NBA player writes a brace and honest article about the evils of white privilrge

    The tide is turning

    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba

    Neglects to mention the black thug that stabbed someone creating the whole incident.

    Best not to rely on semi literate millionaire jocks for social critique. Invariably reverts to we should be able to do whatever the fuck we want.

  58. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Elmer T. Jones
    "It's a comic book"

    So is Genius T. Coates and The Temple of Gibs, but that does not detract from their importance in igniting national conversations on topics that are affecting lives of people of color.

    There is no importance. Its the scourge of their behavior and its consequences for decent people, and how to eliminate it in modern society.

  59. @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    That they can stay home?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    So in the old days, we couldn't have the Chinese here because they were not civilized enough, but now we can't have them because they are too civilized.

    There are many valid reasons for wanting to limit immigration - we can't have all 1.3 billion Chinese move here. But Bryan was completely wrong - there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American. Somalis OTOH....
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I've started reading Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother by Amy Chua and my reaction is: Where's the Chinese Exclusion Act when you need it?
  60. @Reg Cæsar

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
     
    That they can stay home?

    So in the old days, we couldn’t have the Chinese here because they were not civilized enough, but now we can’t have them because they are too civilized.

    There are many valid reasons for wanting to limit immigration – we can’t have all 1.3 billion Chinese move here. But Bryan was completely wrong – there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American. Somalis OTOH….

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American.
     
    No, not a single Chinamen. But there's a tipping point where they (or any other group) identifies with themselves more than with us.
    , @Abe

    There are many valid reasons for wanting to limit immigration – we can’t have all 1.3 billion Chinese move here. But Bryan was completely wrong – there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American.
     
    You must also remember that within Bryan’s own lifetime there was already a long history of Anglo-Chinese fraternization. Madame Chiang Kai-Shek (as Mr. Derbyshire points out, the only national leader to have begged for the use of nuclear weapons against her own people) grew up in Georgia and had a sweet Southern accent the rest of her life (she may have also seduced Wendell Wilkie). I have been reading Beverly Cleary books to my kids at night (still going strong at 100+) and in one of her earliest works, set in rural 1920’s Oregon, there is a saintly Chinese character who donates his house to the city for a library building right before going back to China.

    David Halberstam had a good passage on this well-established US Sinophilia as backdrop for why the fall of China to the communists (helping grease the skids for “McCarthyism” in the 50’s) carried an emotional wallop to Americans beyond the purely strategic setback of losing the world’s most populous country to a hostile ideology:


    The Chinese were puritanical, clean, hard-working, reverent, cheerful, all the virtues Americans most admired. And so a myth had grown up, a myth not necessarily supported by the facts, of the very special U.S.-China relationship. We helped them and led them, and in turn they loved us. A myth fed by millions of pennies put in thousands of church plates by little children to support the missionaries in their work in this exotic land which was lusting for Christianity. China was good; the Chinese were very different from us, and yet they were like us.

    Thus, after a war filled with intensified propaganda, movies showing Japanese raping China, American fighting units saving Chinese, Chinese nurses saving wounded American pilots and, of course, falling in love with them, the fall of China was a shock.

     

  61. @Reg Cæsar

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
     
    That they can stay home?

    I’ve started reading Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother by Amy Chua and my reaction is: Where’s the Chinese Exclusion Act when you need it?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve started reading Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother by Amy Chua and my reaction is: Where’s the Chinese Exclusion Act when you need it?
     
    Her earlier book about market-dominant minorities is damned good ammunition for arguing against excessive "skilled" immigration.
  62. @Anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvkxuZXmR-o

    He seems to think that the main reason people oppose open borders is that they fear terrorism and murder. Maybe he thinks Trump's literal sound bites literally reflect what he and we are thinking.

    As for culture, he thinks that kids will assimilate in a couple of generations. I think his underlying idea is that, sure the culture and social norms will change, but kids will speak native English, and you'll be dead by then anyway, so who cares what you think. You don't have a vote in the future.

    My argument is that, yes I do have a vote in the future, and ideally I want to keep as homogeneous a culture as possible to minimize friction, and culture doesn't fade that fast, for both cultural and genetic reasons.. With blacks from slavery, we're stuck with them. But let's not make it any worse if possible. Look at Asian Americans. Their uppitiness skipped several generations. They assimilated in language, BMI, and many other traits, and all of a sudden they are disassimilating and becoming indentity politics nuts.

    The guy has a weird, hyper affect and way of speaking, and patchy, scraggly facial hair that comes off more like 4-days without shaving rather than a beard. He also has a smirk. And that downtalk verbal tic.

    I really liked his book from last year, The Case against Eduction, and I was aware of this upcoming comic, but seeing him on Rubin makes me think he's a twerp.

    And who was the slack-jawed alien on the Twilight Zone? Richard Kiel, at 7-foot 1-1/2 inches almost as tall as Steve Sailer.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/77520000/jpg/_77520228_kielfamilyap.jpg

    Isn’t that Jaws?

    Man, I was so excited by the kendo in “Moonraker”!

    I used to think the bad guy in Moonraker was a villain. Nowadays, I think he’s a rather sympathetic character.

  63. @Reg Cæsar

    However would we cope without people called ‘Caplan’ and ‘Weinersmith’?
     
    I don't want to learn what's inside a weinersmithy, nor see its product on the shelves.

    Weinersmith is a made up name. His real named is Weiner, he married someone named Smith and they both took the name Weinersmith.

    Maybe this is a perfect name for the WASP-Jewish elite that dominates the media and academia – it would be an improvement on just blaming it all on the Joos or using ((parentheses)). The Nazis forced all male Jews to take the middle name “Israel” (unless their first name was already Israel). Maybe we need to pass a law to require all WASP-Jewish hybrids (by blood or ideology) who are not already named Weinersmith to take the middle name Weinersmith to indicate that they are no longer either Jewish or WASP but have embraced the Globohomo agenda. Arthur Weinersmith Sulzberger. Katherine Weinersmith Graham. Chelsea Weinersmith Clinton and her husband Mark Weinersmith Mezvinsky. Etc.

    Or else just make it descriptive – “Oh, look at him, he’s a real Weinersmith.”

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    ...the WASP-Jewish elite that dominates the media...
     
    ROTFLMAO
    , @Cagey Beast
    Lauren Lauren could call herself Lauren Weinersmith Lauren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bush
  64. @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    Oh, you’re a great man, “Jack D.” ANYTHING TO MAKE GENTILE AMERICANS LOOK BAD. YOU SOB.

    We get it. We have no right whatsoever to value WHO WE ARE.

    TWO of my ancestors captained clipper ships to China from San Francisso, brought back coolies — while your ancestors were still living in schtetls in Eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody's perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn't mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews - just because it turned out OK the last time doesn't mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don't know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.
  65. @Laugh Track
    I know zilch about whether Bryan or Zach is the cartoonist here, but whoever is the artist has captured that wide-eyed AOC look, like everyone is just amazed and hopeful that everything will just work out. "Open Borders"? No problem, if we just stay amazed and hopeful.

    The witness, Soylent Grins of the figures struck me as well. Has Caplin ever seen immigrants? Aren’t Arabs, Mestizos and South Asians a little more stone faced? A little more obese? I’d like to take him to my local Walmart, rub his face in diverse diversity.

    Caplanian open borders is such a stupid positions it’s hard to know where to begin attacking it. Caplan is not an honest analyst on this issue, and the cheesy cartoon propaganda on this cover conforms with this conclusion.

  66. @Jack D
    Weinersmith is a made up name. His real named is Weiner, he married someone named Smith and they both took the name Weinersmith.

    Maybe this is a perfect name for the WASP-Jewish elite that dominates the media and academia - it would be an improvement on just blaming it all on the Joos or using ((parentheses)). The Nazis forced all male Jews to take the middle name "Israel" (unless their first name was already Israel). Maybe we need to pass a law to require all WASP-Jewish hybrids (by blood or ideology) who are not already named Weinersmith to take the middle name Weinersmith to indicate that they are no longer either Jewish or WASP but have embraced the Globohomo agenda. Arthur Weinersmith Sulzberger. Katherine Weinersmith Graham. Chelsea Weinersmith Clinton and her husband Mark Weinersmith Mezvinsky. Etc.

    Or else just make it descriptive - "Oh, look at him, he's a real Weinersmith."

    …the WASP-Jewish elite that dominates the media…

    ROTFLMAO

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Laugh all you want but eventually have a look at who are the movers & shakers in American journalism, foreign policy-making, the publishing world, academia, etc. Who sets the tone? Who do the newcomers to the elite still ape? They ape the Judeo-WASPs.
  67. @Jack D
    Weinersmith is a made up name. His real named is Weiner, he married someone named Smith and they both took the name Weinersmith.

    Maybe this is a perfect name for the WASP-Jewish elite that dominates the media and academia - it would be an improvement on just blaming it all on the Joos or using ((parentheses)). The Nazis forced all male Jews to take the middle name "Israel" (unless their first name was already Israel). Maybe we need to pass a law to require all WASP-Jewish hybrids (by blood or ideology) who are not already named Weinersmith to take the middle name Weinersmith to indicate that they are no longer either Jewish or WASP but have embraced the Globohomo agenda. Arthur Weinersmith Sulzberger. Katherine Weinersmith Graham. Chelsea Weinersmith Clinton and her husband Mark Weinersmith Mezvinsky. Etc.

    Or else just make it descriptive - "Oh, look at him, he's a real Weinersmith."

    Lauren Lauren could call herself Lauren Weinersmith Lauren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bush

    • Replies: @Lot
    Lauren Lauren’s mother was a Smith before marriage, so she could have been Lauren BushSmith before marriage.

    Her husband is 3/4 Jew and 1/4 German Catholic. Their 3/8 Jewish son, per Jack D’s rule, would be James WeinerBushSmith Lauren. If he returned to his great-grandparents’ native Vienna, he’d be a Weiner James WeinerBushSmith Lauren.

  68. @DuanDiRen
    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    His soul,if he has one,is infested with hatred of white people!! Who cares if he is smart,if his ability is being used to cause massive harm to our People???

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    His soul,if he has one,is infested with hatred of white people!! Who cares if he is smart,if his ability is being used to cause massive harm to our People???
     
    He's white. His wife and kids are white. He doesn't hate white people as individuals, but he does oppose them organizing or grouping together as an ethnic group and he is working to undermine their ethnic identity and trick them about this.
  69. @Buzz Mohawk
    Oh, you're a great man, "Jack D." ANYTHING TO MAKE GENTILE AMERICANS LOOK BAD. YOU SOB.

    We get it. We have no right whatsoever to value WHO WE ARE.

    TWO of my ancestors captained clipper ships to China from San Francisso, brought back coolies -- while your ancestors were still living in schtetls in Eastern Europe.

    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody’s perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn’t mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews – just because it turned out OK the last time doesn’t mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don’t know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Your response is appreciated. Thank you.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass.
     
    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over [in limited numbers] did not form some sort of permanent underclass.

    Anyway, the Chinese are more of a threat to create a permanent overclass. We don't want that, either!
    , @Clyde
    Truth! Almost as good as the old Jeff Beck album. And contrary to many of the alleged "thinkers" here, many of the American Jews I have encountered look up to their whiter North European co-Americans as their betters. Their superiors. To be envied.
    So it goes in Asia too, where the paler the skin, the more they are the ruling classes. Are envied by those lower down. Xi Jinping is mighty pale. Pig snout too from his pork eating heritage.
    , @Liza

    Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese.
     
    Why not? If everything you say about the Chinese is accurate, you should welcome them in unlimited numbers. After all, as you say, they are not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy. So, what's the problem?
    , @peterike

    Now that doesn’t mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews – just because it turned out OK the last time

     

    So Jewish immigration to America turned out OK, did it?
    , @larry lurker
    This sounds like Ryan Faulk*/The Alternative Hypothesis's First Worldism - a kind of explicitly HBD-aware version of civic nationalism, based on shared inborn traits instead of just shared values. He abandoned white nationalism for first worldism last year.

    * He often uses his real name.

  70. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:

    I missed it if Steve cited it but last year a “graphic novel,” i.e. long expensive comic book, was longlisted for the Booker Prize, a supposed first as far as these things go.

    James Bowman has written about how the American movie diet is increasingly dependent on prepubescent power fantasies about robots, mutants, cosplay karate, etc. but the pseudo-mature Warholian comic-ification of every other mass-media format is well advanced. In the superficial gay-run capitalist society we won’t have options among “pop” and “intellectual” culture, just an optimized spectrum of prolefeed in the style of chintzy shonen warrior-damsels wearing Jap/Korean school uniforms

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    And what's wrong with that, providing we get some great Rule 34 out of it?
  71. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...the WASP-Jewish elite that dominates the media...
     
    ROTFLMAO

    Laugh all you want but eventually have a look at who are the movers & shakers in American journalism, foreign policy-making, the publishing world, academia, etc. Who sets the tone? Who do the newcomers to the elite still ape? They ape the Judeo-WASPs.

  72. Wait, there’s still more space dust on here..
    *blows*
    “How to Cook for Forty Humans”

  73. @Russell Upvittles
    Why does the Statue of Liberty look like Henry Winkler?

    “Why does the Statue of Liberty look like Henry Winkler?”

    And why does it look like it is about to ram a butt-plug home?

  74. @Jack D
    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody's perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn't mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews - just because it turned out OK the last time doesn't mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don't know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.

    Your response is appreciated. Thank you.

  75. @eah
    https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/151464146578313216

    That clinches it.

    Having worn the tread off the tires of ‘fascist’, ‘bigot’, ‘Nazi’, ‘neo-Nazi’ and ‘white supremacist’, the millenial Bolsheviks determined to watch the Western world burn – and the cultural-Marxist puppeteers who yank their strings – are now lashing themselves to the wheel of “WHITE NATIONALIST”.

    Of course, this unprecedented wave of racism disguised as “anti-racism” – ongoing for a decade now, but raging like an out-of-control forest fire for the past 3/4 years – demonstrates only that the scuttlefish who peered up at normal folks from the dungeons of their own neuroses no longer fear the objects of their hatred. Perhaps watching and reading our vaunted chattering classes in the media blithely shouting fire! in crowded places, with zero consequences following, has emboldened them.

    Antifa are not only legal but legally untouchable; bomb-tossing elected radicals are swooned over by our nation’s intellectual gatekeepers. In the meantime, patriots and citizens loyal to our Constitution, who have lived their lives playing by the rules, now exist with bullseyes drawn on their backs, and wait for the next outrage driving them further into the hinterlands.

    “White nationalism” isn’t just a slur; it’s in all likelihood, the only road back to civilization. You’re better off by far on a Bad Guy list than to have your name erased altogether.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Ragno, that is one of the most descriptive phrases ever..."Having worn the tread off the tires of fascist, bigot, Nazi, neo-Nazi and White supremacist..." Bravo.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    ongoing for a decade now, but raging like an out-of-control forest fire for the past 3/4 years
     
    Let's hope it's more like Ebola, so deadly it spread is retarded.
    , @Anonymous
    Yes, indeed. If whites were really as violent as these people claim they wouldn't dare say so in public.
  76. @Jack D
    So in the old days, we couldn't have the Chinese here because they were not civilized enough, but now we can't have them because they are too civilized.

    There are many valid reasons for wanting to limit immigration - we can't have all 1.3 billion Chinese move here. But Bryan was completely wrong - there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American. Somalis OTOH....

    there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American.

    No, not a single Chinamen. But there’s a tipping point where they (or any other group) identifies with themselves more than with us.

  77. @anon
    Wienersmith's wife is a prof. at Rice U. Her field of interest:

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     

    I

    ’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.

    Toxoplasma gondii from cat litter boxes makes white women vote for Democrats.

    • LOL: George Taylor
  78. @Jack D
    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody's perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn't mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews - just because it turned out OK the last time doesn't mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don't know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.

    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass.

    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over [in limited numbers] did not form some sort of permanent underclass.

    Anyway, the Chinese are more of a threat to create a permanent overclass. We don’t want that, either!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Right but Bryan didn't think that they would end up as our overlords - he was concerned that they were sub-human. I'm telling you that digging up Bryan quotes from 1906 is not in your interest because he turned out to be completely wrong about the coolies of 1906 and people will use this to say that you are equally wrong about Somalis.
    , @Desiderius
    If the choice is between Yang and O’Rourke I’m with Yang.
  79. @Diversity Heretic
    I've started reading Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother by Amy Chua and my reaction is: Where's the Chinese Exclusion Act when you need it?

    I’ve started reading Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother by Amy Chua and my reaction is: Where’s the Chinese Exclusion Act when you need it?

    Her earlier book about market-dominant minorities is damned good ammunition for arguing against excessive “skilled” immigration.

  80. res says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    If this is a comic book, I assume the target market is schools, which makes it not so funny after all.

    If this is a comic book, I assume the target market is schools, which makes it not so funny after all.

    I think you are right. Amazon has this in the Educational & Nonfiction Graphic Novels category where the paperback and hardback are the #1 and #2 best sellers respectively even though the book is 6 months away from release.
    https://www.amazon.com/Open-Borders-Science-Ethics-Immigration/dp/1250316960

    Who is buying this book in that quantity?

    P.S. I initially thought that cover was a parody. We are well beyond the Onion Singularity.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    If this is a comic book, I assume the target market is schools, which makes it not so funny after all.

    I think you are right. Amazon has this in the Educational & Nonfiction Graphic Novels category where the paperback and hardback are the #1 and #2 best sellers respectively even though the book is 6 months away from release.
    https://www.amazon.com/Open-Borders-Science-Ethics-Immigration/dp/1250316960
     
    Many thanks! I never would have suspected. I figured this was a large troll by autistic Caplan. Instead this is serious - effective propaganda aimed at the most gullible. Children. My opinion > Comics read as well as ipads for children. They can get a grip on short attention spans.
  81. @Laugh Track
    I know zilch about whether Bryan or Zach is the cartoonist here, but whoever is the artist has captured that wide-eyed AOC look, like everyone is just amazed and hopeful that everything will just work out. "Open Borders"? No problem, if we just stay amazed and hopeful.

    The cartoonist is certainly Zach Weinersmith, of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. He actually has some pretty funny comics but he’s definitely in the tech-utopia bubble that houses a lot of overly optimistic people. In discussing the book, he says that he thinks the and Caplan can justify completely open borders even under an “America first” paradigm, which seems on the surface ridiculous. He also says that we should have unlimited immigration even if we believe what IQ stats tell us about third-world countries, which is an argument I would be interested to read.

    Here’s the link to his description: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/open-borders

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    The cartoonist is certainly Zach Weinersmith, of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. He actually has some pretty funny comics but he’s definitely in the tech-utopia bubble that houses a lot of overly optimistic people. In discussing the book, he says that he thinks the and Caplan can justify completely open borders even under an “America first” paradigm, which seems on the surface ridiculous.
     
    There is no way to justify "open borders" in the long run from any perspective -- including the "Is it good for the Jews?" perspective -- because "open borders" would ensure there is no long run.
  82. @bomag
    Caplan's choice of a title reveals his clumsiness; it should have been, "The Case Against Schooling".

    He's really not against education; the learning of useful things; he's against the education industrial complex with it's tendency to run people through the institution just for the formality of it all.

    I am also against the educational-propaganda complex. Why oh why didn’t the GOP take on the public employees unions? Their members are used as shock troops for corporate policies masquerading as public policy. They swung the vote on ACA, calling the self-employed who couldn’t afford insurance ‘free riders’ even as the care and feeding of the public employee has made public education unaffordable. Public education is a fat tick draining the community dry of funds to pay for endless inanity such as gender inclusive toilets. Meanwhile, useful education, not so much.

    Unions for public employees should be illegal. The schools negotiate with the unions, both at the expense of the payer who is omitted from their considerations. Public employment is, well public, and not for-profit by definition. A union moves the power center from a local matter to a national mafiosa increasingly in cahoots with big money interest such as GE Healthcare. (That was ACA, now it’s Big Pharma and the newly blooming vaccination racket.) Schools are the biggest source of Democratic Party power and the GOP never fights for all the unwilling financiers of it, the taxpayers.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @bomag
    Scott Walker took on the public unions in Wisconsin to pretty good effect. Not too many are following his lead.

    It's the usual emotional debate: suggest cutting ed money, and the professional grievers spring into action, complete with tear stained children rotting in the streets.
  83. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    And all indications are that it’s a crappy book. Here is the preview, about two years old:
    http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/allroads.pdf

  84. @Reg Cæsar

    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass.
     
    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over [in limited numbers] did not form some sort of permanent underclass.

    Anyway, the Chinese are more of a threat to create a permanent overclass. We don't want that, either!

    Right but Bryan didn’t think that they would end up as our overlords – he was concerned that they were sub-human. I’m telling you that digging up Bryan quotes from 1906 is not in your interest because he turned out to be completely wrong about the coolies of 1906 and people will use this to say that you are equally wrong about Somalis.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Let's make sure not to quote ol' Uncle Albert either. As we now know, he got it wrong too.

    From A. Einstein on his visit to China:

    “peculiar herd-like nation"

    “industrious, filthy, obtuse people”

    "often more like automatons than people”

    "even the children are spiritless and look obtuse"

    “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.”
     
    https://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/g/2017/08/tongue-410x231.jpg
  85. res says:

    For a flavor of this book see http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/open-borders

    From this comment by jb in another thread: http://www.unz.com/isteve/ilhan-omar-denounces-stephen-miller-as-a-white-nationalist/#comment-3142231

    Off topic but of interest: Bryan Caplan has a new book out advocating open borders. What’s interesting is that it’s a comic book, illustrated by Zach Weinersmith, author of the (rather popular and influential) SMBC webcomic. Here is Weinersmith explaining, in comic form, why you should buy the book. Caplan is of course entirely unreachable, but Weinersmith (who considers himself some kind of comic philosopher, and specializes in pretentious displays of nerdery) lists an email address on his site, and perhaps he could benefit from some (polite!) education.

  86. @res

    If this is a comic book, I assume the target market is schools, which makes it not so funny after all.
     
    I think you are right. Amazon has this in the Educational & Nonfiction Graphic Novels category where the paperback and hardback are the #1 and #2 best sellers respectively even though the book is 6 months away from release.
    https://www.amazon.com/Open-Borders-Science-Ethics-Immigration/dp/1250316960

    Who is buying this book in that quantity?

    P.S. I initially thought that cover was a parody. We are well beyond the Onion Singularity.

    If this is a comic book, I assume the target market is schools, which makes it not so funny after all.

    I think you are right. Amazon has this in the Educational & Nonfiction Graphic Novels category where the paperback and hardback are the #1 and #2 best sellers respectively even though the book is 6 months away from release.
    https://www.amazon.com/Open-Borders-Science-Ethics-Immigration/dp/1250316960

    Many thanks! I never would have suspected. I figured this was a large troll by autistic Caplan. Instead this is serious – effective propaganda aimed at the most gullible. Children. My opinion > Comics read as well as ipads for children. They can get a grip on short attention spans.

  87. Bryan was quite correct. A mass of cheap labor would have both ruined the White working man and caused Chinese Ethno nationalism to seize the assets of the rich.

    The rich then wanted cheap labor as they do now. But feared losing it all to a Chinese leader.

    Let’s encourage Mexican claims to Rob Reiners Malibu mansion.

  88. @Reg Cæsar

    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass.
     
    The coolies that your great grandpa brought over [in limited numbers] did not form some sort of permanent underclass.

    Anyway, the Chinese are more of a threat to create a permanent overclass. We don't want that, either!

    If the choice is between Yang and O’Rourke I’m with Yang.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    If the choice is between Yang and O'Rourke I'm with Uruguay.
  89. @Jack D
    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody's perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn't mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews - just because it turned out OK the last time doesn't mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don't know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.

    Truth! Almost as good as the old Jeff Beck album. And contrary to many of the alleged “thinkers” here, many of the American Jews I have encountered look up to their whiter North European co-Americans as their betters. Their superiors. To be envied.
    So it goes in Asia too, where the paler the skin, the more they are the ruling classes. Are envied by those lower down. Xi Jinping is mighty pale. Pig snout too from his pork eating heritage.

  90. Fun fact. Bryan’s dad was a working stiff who deplored free trade and mass immigration. Bryan took up “science” to prove him wrong. Also, Bryan was damaged in adolescence by Ayn Rand worship.

  91. @Jack D
    There were no strict rules for converting Hebrew/Yiddish names into the Roman alphabet. Sometimes they have been double converted, going from Hebrew into Cyrillic and then Cyrillic into Roman.

    Kaplan/Caplan is already double converted even without going thru the Russian - it is a Yiddishized version of the Latin word capellanus, which made it into English as chaplain. Jews named Kaplan are usually Cohanim - descendants from the Temple priests, so it is an alternate version of Cohen (which also has many variate spellings, some with a K).

    Or else it is a nefarious Jewish plot - take your pick.

    Kaplansky agency insured my car many years ago. Do they count?

  92. @Jack D
    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody's perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn't mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews - just because it turned out OK the last time doesn't mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don't know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.

    Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese.

    Why not? If everything you say about the Chinese is accurate, you should welcome them in unlimited numbers. After all, as you say, they are not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy. So, what’s the problem?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    When I make a stew I sometimes put a little soy sauce in it for flavor but if I pour a whole bottle into the pot, it's not so good.
  93. @B.B.
    he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    Back in 2011 when Caplan was promoting his pro-natalist book, he was interviewed on MSNBC by Dylan Ratigan. Ratigan asked Caplan why China is out-competing the U.S in test scores, and Caplan gave the honest answer that it might be genetic. I'm surprised this didn't seem to cause much controversy. Caplan knows the data on race and IQ, he's just a dogmatic libertarian.

    Here is the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ye_qmuTaY8

    • Replies: @Pericles
    That guy looks like a walking autoimmune disease.
  94. @DuanDiRen
    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    Bryan Caplan believes the complete opposite of this.

    He says a cab driver or a hair dresser in Haiti or Rwanda can move to the US, do the exact same work, and make an order of magnitude more money for the exact same work. He’s right. He doesn’t think every cab driver should be a university professor. Quite the opposite.

    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and “Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids” is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage..

    Caplan is wise and often shockingly honest. On this issue, he is very deliberately manipulating and misleading people. And he even admits to that.

    People want to keep their ethnic and linguistic and nationalistic identities and Caplan pretty openly advocates tricking them so that they can’t have that.

  95. @Father O'Hara
    His soul,if he has one,is infested with hatred of white people!! Who cares if he is smart,if his ability is being used to cause massive harm to our People???

    His soul,if he has one,is infested with hatred of white people!! Who cares if he is smart,if his ability is being used to cause massive harm to our People???

    He’s white. His wife and kids are white. He doesn’t hate white people as individuals, but he does oppose them organizing or grouping together as an ethnic group and he is working to undermine their ethnic identity and trick them about this.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  96. Steve Sailer, the comic book format is clever. Pairing with a cartoonist and humorist is effective. You should emulate those and other effective tactics to evangelize your view. Keep it happy, keep it optimistic, keep it funny, and make it persuasive.

  97. @TomSchmidt
    I know what a blacksmith is. What's a Wienersmith?

    Sausage maker?

  98. @Jack D
    There were no strict rules for converting Hebrew/Yiddish names into the Roman alphabet. Sometimes they have been double converted, going from Hebrew into Cyrillic and then Cyrillic into Roman.

    Kaplan/Caplan is already double converted even without going thru the Russian - it is a Yiddishized version of the Latin word capellanus, which made it into English as chaplain. Jews named Kaplan are usually Cohanim - descendants from the Temple priests, so it is an alternate version of Cohen (which also has many variate spellings, some with a K).

    Or else it is a nefarious Jewish plot - take your pick.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    I wanted to make a joke about H*Y*M*A*N K*A*P*L*A*N, but couldn’t think of one.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_Kaplan
  99. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    This is a racial composition of the block on which Bryan lives in a rather expensive house (data from http://www.justicemap.org):

    White 70.7%
    Asian 17.8%
    Black 3.4%
    Hispanic 4.0%
    Multi-Racial 6.9%
    American Indian 0%
    Islander 0%

    Is anyone surprised?

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    Surprised that it adds up to almost 103 percent -- must get pretty crowded
  100. @Tiny Duck
    Kyle Korver a white NBA player writes a brace and honest article about the evils of white privilrge

    The tide is turning

    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba

    That’s great, I’m always up for a brace and honest article about privirge…

    Spellcheck must be racist or something.

  101. @Mr. Anon
    I saw a number of Twilight Zone episodes; running in syndication, they were a staple of off-network TV in the 70s and 80s. And what did I learn from them (for clearly, they were intended to teach us lessons)?

    That attractive (white, blonde) women like the one in that episode you linked to, aren't really pretty. You just think that because of cruel social conventions.

    Or this one - The Monsters are due on Maple Street:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9z1f9kL_CY

    Your peaceful law-abiding neighbors can easily - with no provocation actually - turn into snarling dangerous animals. This middle-brow social criticism is supposed to be provacative and oh-so insightful. But isn't it really itself just a form of the paranoia it supposedly criticizes? Rod Serling probably thought he was holding up a mirror to reveal our inner demons. But just whose demons were on display there?

    Boomer America watched all this stuff they were kids and drank it in like milk without thinking much about it. But that doesn't mean it had no effect on them. Or that it wasn't intended to.

    Boomer America watched all this stuff they were kids and drank it in like milk without thinking much about it. But that doesn’t mean it had no effect on them. Or that it wasn’t intended to.

    Well it’s TV.

    Of course these are all little fables, often with morality, updated for the nuclear age and red scare, featuring MONSTERS! FROM SPAAAACE!

    But so what.

    You can alternatively read “the collected stories of Philip K. Dick”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Of course these are all little fables, often with morality, updated for the nuclear age and red scare, featuring MONSTERS! FROM SPAAAACE!
     
    Sure, and the nervous neighbors were just cossacks brownshirts normal Americans who would turn - turn in an instant don't you know - into a mob of dangerous fanatics given the right stimulus.
  102. bored identity strongly believes that not to many Americans nowadays even know that the original GibMeYourWretched Lady had more of that classic, native, the Lost Tribe style beauty ; before know-nothing bastards secretly hacksawed & chiseled Her story, and Our history, to fit their disgustingly supremacist narrative:

    Educate yourself, peasants:

    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/77499/native-americans-part-ten-lost-tribes/

    P.S.

    To bored identity’s Jack Lot D friends:

    Vote early, vote often!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Maybe the Apes were right after all, Doughnut. They put the kibosh on that whole Emma Lazarus bit:

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/Lady_Liberty_Head.jpg
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Did Napoleon IV's soldiers shoot her nose off?
  103. @Tiny Duck
    Kyle Korver a white NBA player writes a brace and honest article about the evils of white privilrge

    The tide is turning

    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba

    Ohs Tinys……

    #nobody cares

  104. Abe says:
    @Jack D
    So in the old days, we couldn't have the Chinese here because they were not civilized enough, but now we can't have them because they are too civilized.

    There are many valid reasons for wanting to limit immigration - we can't have all 1.3 billion Chinese move here. But Bryan was completely wrong - there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American. Somalis OTOH....

    There are many valid reasons for wanting to limit immigration – we can’t have all 1.3 billion Chinese move here. But Bryan was completely wrong – there was nothing about being Chinese that was or is incompatible with becoming American.

    You must also remember that within Bryan’s own lifetime there was already a long history of Anglo-Chinese fraternization. Madame Chiang Kai-Shek (as Mr. Derbyshire points out, the only national leader to have begged for the use of nuclear weapons against her own people) grew up in Georgia and had a sweet Southern accent the rest of her life (she may have also seduced Wendell Wilkie). I have been reading Beverly Cleary books to my kids at night (still going strong at 100+) and in one of her earliest works, set in rural 1920’s Oregon, there is a saintly Chinese character who donates his house to the city for a library building right before going back to China.

    David Halberstam had a good passage on this well-established US Sinophilia as backdrop for why the fall of China to the communists (helping grease the skids for “McCarthyism” in the 50’s) carried an emotional wallop to Americans beyond the purely strategic setback of losing the world’s most populous country to a hostile ideology:

    The Chinese were puritanical, clean, hard-working, reverent, cheerful, all the virtues Americans most admired. And so a myth had grown up, a myth not necessarily supported by the facts, of the very special U.S.-China relationship. We helped them and led them, and in turn they loved us. A myth fed by millions of pennies put in thousands of church plates by little children to support the missionaries in their work in this exotic land which was lusting for Christianity. China was good; the Chinese were very different from us, and yet they were like us.

    Thus, after a war filled with intensified propaganda, movies showing Japanese raping China, American fighting units saving Chinese, Chinese nurses saving wounded American pilots and, of course, falling in love with them, the fall of China was a shock.

  105. @MEH 0910
    In 1999, writer Alan Moore (of Watchmen comic book fame) had his comic book pulp hero Tom Strong declaim, in the spirit of Lewontin's Fallacy: "Do you know how much detectible genetic difference there is between you, a Japanese businessman, a Madagascan fisherman or a Hassidic Jew? Precisely none! The racial purity that you're defending doesn't even exist!"

    Tom Strong #4 - "Swastika Girls!"

    I wonder if Alan Moore picked up his Lewontin's Fallacy from Steven Rose in England?

    This is like reading a mature version of Girls & Panzer.

    First comment:

    “If the attempt was to aim at middle schoolers, I’m not sure my mom would have let me read a comic involving sexy leather bondage Nazi rapist women.”

    Anyway, SCIENCE!

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/rethinking-the-ancestry-of-the-eukaryotes-20190409/

    The concept of a pangenome arose in the early 2000s, when scientists realized that reference genome sequences of pathogenic bacteria — the digital databases compiled as standardized descriptions of their genomes — failed to capture the total genetic variation of the organisms. Since then, scientists have realized that pangenomes also play an important role in prokaryotic life. But since the sharing of genes through horizontal gene transfer is much less common in eukaryotes, it’s long been assumed that pangenomes have only limited relevance to understanding eukaryotic species.

    That view is slowly changing. A recent analysis of genomes from four medically important pathogenic fungal species found that they, too, have pangenomes: 10-20 percent of their genome is comprised of accessory genes responsible for important traits like resistance to antimicrobial compounds.

    Even our species has a pangenome. “When we first sequenced the human genome, it was hailed as fantastic — ‘We now have the blueprint for all humans!’ But of course we didn’t,” Wickstead said. A recent study found that nearly 10 percent of the genes from 910 people of African descent weren’t in the human reference genome, for example. “And the missing content of genes within individual genomes is part of the diversity of humans, hence a response to drugs, and the environment, and all sorts of very important things,” Wickstead said.

  106. @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    You’re right Jack…..they’d be crazy to come here!

    That problem wasn’t so hard now was it?

  107. @Clyde
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tX2jK5XHYg

    That guy looks like a walking autoimmune disease.

  108. Caplan earlier wrote:

    Unlike most American elites, I don’t feel the least bit bad about living in a Bubble. I share none of their egalitarian or nationalist scruples. Indeed, I’ve wanted to live in a Bubble for as long as I can remember. Since childhood, I’ve struggled to psychologically and socially wall myself off from “my” society. At 40, I can fairly say, “Mission accomplished.”

    Why put so much distance between myself and the outside world? Because despite my legendary optimism, I find my society unacceptable. It is dreary, insipid, ugly, boring, wrong, and wicked. …

    etc.

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2012/03/my_beautiful_bu.html

  109. What we really need is Open Tenure.

  110. @Tiny Duck
    Kyle Korver a white NBA player writes a brace and honest article about the evils of white privilrge

    The tide is turning

    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba

    TDuck is in dire need of a mind check, grammar check, spell check, blaque check. Not necessarily in that order.

  111. lol. yes, that’s it. he’s a libertarian.

    “That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong.”

    on this particular topic, he is right, for his group. the trait has been selected for over thousands of years.

    that he is very smart simply makes him extra destructive to europeans. which is the point.

  112. @Jack D
    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody's perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn't mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews - just because it turned out OK the last time doesn't mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don't know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.

    Now that doesn’t mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews – just because it turned out OK the last time

    So Jewish immigration to America turned out OK, did it?

  113. @roo_ster
    He is just another ((( libertarian ))) preaching libertarianism while sucking the govt teat.

    He is just another ((( libertarian ))) preaching libertarianism while sucking the govt teat.

    So True. His cush, detached, autism spectrum proclamations and lifestyle are taxpayer funded due to him being a prof at George Mason, a Virginia public funded university.
    Ranking: #141 National University (2014)

    I suspect he or wifey has large inherited money that also informs and funds his combined care free noblesse oblige/ garbage on immigration.

  114. I just removed Zach Weinersmith’s webcomic from my reading list.

  115. @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    That we’re going to be in a world of hurt if we keep listening to the Bryan Caplans of this world and rush even further into Brazilification.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    If they, not we - ask them, continue down that path Brazil would be wildly optimistic.
  116. @Liza

    Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese.
     
    Why not? If everything you say about the Chinese is accurate, you should welcome them in unlimited numbers. After all, as you say, they are not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy. So, what's the problem?

    When I make a stew I sometimes put a little soy sauce in it for flavor but if I pour a whole bottle into the pot, it’s not so good.

    • Replies: @Liza
    True enough. You are a good cook. But we're not making stew. And the soy sauce doesn't reproduce itself, becoming greater and greater in qty, taking over the dish.
  117. @MEH 0910
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpQIbgcUDzw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IWsXkNI8

    I wanted to make a joke about H*Y*M*A*N K*A*P*L*A*N, but couldn’t think of one.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_Kaplan

  118. @Mr. Anon
    I saw a number of Twilight Zone episodes; running in syndication, they were a staple of off-network TV in the 70s and 80s. And what did I learn from them (for clearly, they were intended to teach us lessons)?

    That attractive (white, blonde) women like the one in that episode you linked to, aren't really pretty. You just think that because of cruel social conventions.

    Or this one - The Monsters are due on Maple Street:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9z1f9kL_CY

    Your peaceful law-abiding neighbors can easily - with no provocation actually - turn into snarling dangerous animals. This middle-brow social criticism is supposed to be provacative and oh-so insightful. But isn't it really itself just a form of the paranoia it supposedly criticizes? Rod Serling probably thought he was holding up a mirror to reveal our inner demons. But just whose demons were on display there?

    Boomer America watched all this stuff they were kids and drank it in like milk without thinking much about it. But that doesn't mean it had no effect on them. Or that it wasn't intended to.

    The Outer Limits was a lot deeper

  119. @Mr. Anon

    Open Borders by Bryan Caplan and Zach Wienersmith
     
    .............pretending not to notice.

    Various commenters complain when i mention the “J” word, but when it’s relevant it’s relevant.

    I’m ready to buy that Byran Caplan is a true autistic with no feeling for actual peoples and cultures and human life, and so actually sees people and nations as arbitrary fungible entities.

    Still, there simply is no actual libertarian case for Open Borders. Open borders is not libertarian, but would be the most massive socialist project ever, stealing from some people to give stuff to other people. It’s classic a “tragedy of the commons” paradigm which libertarians all at least pretend to understand and use to argue for privatization.

    An actual libertarian immigration model would be tradeable citizenship and/or a community selling citizenship. I.e. people who currently generate positive externalities would be free to realize those benefits, and people of quality who likely would generate positive externalities somewhere else are free to negoitate the best possible terms to do so. I.e. individuals get to realize the benefits–or incur the costs–associated with living around them. (The same way companies only make job offers to some people and don’t offer everyone the same wage.)

    That is actual libertarianism, and it’s not the least bit difficult to grasp, and it flows right out of the sorts of models the libertarians build. But when it comes to immigration …. Caplan hates it.

    I can only conclude that Caplan simply hates the white gentiles being allow to go off and do anything–including building nice nations–for themselves. It just … gets under his skin.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    J is fine, a pleasant change from everyday life. J alone is deluded.
  120. @Anonymous
    This is a racial composition of the block on which Bryan lives in a rather expensive house (data from http://www.justicemap.org):

    White 70.7%
    Asian 17.8%
    Black 3.4%
    Hispanic 4.0%
    Multi-Racial 6.9%
    American Indian 0%
    Islander 0%

    Is anyone surprised?

    Surprised that it adds up to almost 103 percent — must get pretty crowded

  121. @Reg Cæsar
    Bryan?

    William Jennings Bryan on Chinese Immigration

    If every American could visit China, the question of Chinese immigration would soon be settled upon a permanent basis, for no one can become acquainted with the Chinese coolie without recognizing the impossibility of opening the doors of our country to him without injustice to our social ideas, injury to China's reputation among us and danger to our diplomatic relations with that country, wrote William Jennings Bryan in 1906.

    --Los Angeles Herald, 9/26/1908
     

    I can’t tell from the Bryan quote here exactly what he thinks of the Chinese.

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.

    The Chinese Exclusion Act was the sort of wise far-sighted leadership–of the sort Baden-Powell spoke of in his “Rivers of Blood” speech–actually standing up for the existing citizens of the nation. I’m very, very glad my ancestors had the opportunity to work hard and build lives in a nation not flooded with Chinese.

    And the same goes for today. I don’t want my kids to have to compete with a flood of Chinese. It’s not that they aren’t competitive, they are all far smarter than the average Chinese. But if forced to compete with tens of millions of Chinese … then they’d have to start living lives like the Chinese. No thanks. And for what purpose? None.

    Let the Chinese build their paradise in China, according to Chinese norms, customs, values. That’s all well and good. Americans should do the same in America. And we should deport this odious Caplan creep to wherever will take him, or set him adrift. He’s not an American and does not belong here.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @peterike

    Let the Chinese build their paradise in China, according to Chinese norms, customs, values.

     

    Agreed. But if it weren't for the traitorous American political and corporate elites who handed China everything it needed on a platter so they, the traitorous American political and corporate elites, could make even more money at the expense of their nation and their fellow citizens, then China would still be a meaningless backwater filled with a bunch of peasants.
    , @MBlanc46
    Hear, hear! China for the Chinese, America for Americans.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.
     
    It was Lafcadio Hearn who first warned the West of this danger:

    One side of that truth ought to be familiar to Americans,—the Occidental side. The Occidental has discovered that, under any conditions of fair play, he cannot compete with the Oriental in the struggle for life: he has fully confessed the fact, both in Australia and in the United States, by the passage of laws to protect himself against Asiatic emigration. For outrages upon Chinese or Japanese immigrants he has nevertheless offered a host of absurd "moral reasons." The only true reason can be formulated in six words: The Oriental can underlive the Occidental.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/55802/55802-h/55802-h.htm


     

    He would know. He lived his life out as a naturalized subject of the Emperor of Japan.

    https://kendo.co/bkr/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/P1040739-768x576.jpg


    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9667/311695.524/0_9a9a0_4a3653ed_XL.jpg

  122. @AnotherDad
    Various commenters complain when i mention the "J" word, but when it's relevant it's relevant.

    I'm ready to buy that Byran Caplan is a true autistic with no feeling for actual peoples and cultures and human life, and so actually sees people and nations as arbitrary fungible entities.

    Still, there simply is no actual libertarian case for Open Borders. Open borders is not libertarian, but would be the most massive socialist project ever, stealing from some people to give stuff to other people. It's classic a "tragedy of the commons" paradigm which libertarians all at least pretend to understand and use to argue for privatization.

    An actual libertarian immigration model would be tradeable citizenship and/or a community selling citizenship. I.e. people who currently generate positive externalities would be free to realize those benefits, and people of quality who likely would generate positive externalities somewhere else are free to negoitate the best possible terms to do so. I.e. individuals get to realize the benefits--or incur the costs--associated with living around them. (The same way companies only make job offers to some people and don't offer everyone the same wage.)

    That is actual libertarianism, and it's not the least bit difficult to grasp, and it flows right out of the sorts of models the libertarians build. But when it comes to immigration .... Caplan hates it.

    I can only conclude that Caplan simply hates the white gentiles being allow to go off and do anything--including building nice nations--for themselves. It just ... gets under his skin.

    J is fine, a pleasant change from everyday life. J alone is deluded.

  123. @AnotherDad
    I can't tell from the Bryan quote here exactly what he thinks of the Chinese.

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.

    The Chinese Exclusion Act was the sort of wise far-sighted leadership--of the sort Baden-Powell spoke of in his "Rivers of Blood" speech--actually standing up for the existing citizens of the nation. I'm very, very glad my ancestors had the opportunity to work hard and build lives in a nation not flooded with Chinese.

    And the same goes for today. I don't want my kids to have to compete with a flood of Chinese. It's not that they aren't competitive, they are all far smarter than the average Chinese. But if forced to compete with tens of millions of Chinese ... then they'd have to start living lives like the Chinese. No thanks. And for what purpose? None.

    Let the Chinese build their paradise in China, according to Chinese norms, customs, values. That's all well and good. Americans should do the same in America. And we should deport this odious Caplan creep to wherever will take him, or set him adrift. He's not an American and does not belong here.

    Let the Chinese build their paradise in China, according to Chinese norms, customs, values.

    Agreed. But if it weren’t for the traitorous American political and corporate elites who handed China everything it needed on a platter so they, the traitorous American political and corporate elites, could make even more money at the expense of their nation and their fellow citizens, then China would still be a meaningless backwater filled with a bunch of peasants.

  124. @Ragno
    That clinches it.

    Having worn the tread off the tires of 'fascist', 'bigot', 'Nazi', 'neo-Nazi' and 'white supremacist', the millenial Bolsheviks determined to watch the Western world burn - and the cultural-Marxist puppeteers who yank their strings - are now lashing themselves to the wheel of "WHITE NATIONALIST".

    Of course, this unprecedented wave of racism disguised as "anti-racism" - ongoing for a decade now, but raging like an out-of-control forest fire for the past 3/4 years - demonstrates only that the scuttlefish who peered up at normal folks from the dungeons of their own neuroses no longer fear the objects of their hatred. Perhaps watching and reading our vaunted chattering classes in the media blithely shouting fire! in crowded places, with zero consequences following, has emboldened them.

    Antifa are not only legal but legally untouchable; bomb-tossing elected radicals are swooned over by our nation's intellectual gatekeepers. In the meantime, patriots and citizens loyal to our Constitution, who have lived their lives playing by the rules, now exist with bullseyes drawn on their backs, and wait for the next outrage driving them further into the hinterlands.

    "White nationalism" isn't just a slur; it's in all likelihood, the only road back to civilization. You're better off by far on a Bad Guy list than to have your name erased altogether.

    Ragno, that is one of the most descriptive phrases ever…”Having worn the tread off the tires of fascist, bigot, Nazi, neo-Nazi and White supremacist…” Bravo.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Remember the six tired car they had on Hogan's Heroes? Those perfidious Nazis thought of everything, didn't they? Tread was their thing, along with hobnailed jackboots.

    https://metvcdn.metv.com/I83GU-1534187377-2177-blog-hogans_mercedes_1200.jpg
  125. @anon
    Wienersmith's wife is a prof. at Rice U. Her field of interest:

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     

    anon, change “risk of infection” to “risk of inundation” and “parasite” to “illegal immigrant” Reads better that way.

  126. Open borders is an interesting term. Does Canada maintain a secure border with the US to keep Yanks out, or Canadians in? Or is it to keep non Yanks out?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The Canadian border is not terribly secure, but until now it didn't need to be.

    I made a good amount of money running hardware store Garand rifles out of Winnipeg and Calgary as a teenager. They were cheap at Canadian stores but could not legally be imported into the US then, for no good reason. If you knew where to cross and did not act suspicious you could get across at hundreds of places.

    At shift time driving from Detroit to Windsor was a wavethrough as long as you looked the part of a UAW autoworker. I never hauled guns that way but went across a couple of times with no bother as late as 1999 or so.

    I had a friend with no passport or passport card accidentally tool into Canada once while doing radio direction finding. So he goes to the US crossing point and they detained him for eighteen hours before letting him back, fingerprinted him, searched the car the whole thing. If he'd just turned around and went back he'd have had no problems. So much for honesty.
    , @istevefan
    Didn't a lot of Americans bumrush the Canada border to dodge the draft during the Vietnam War?
  127. If Jews want to live in countries with few White people, shouldn’t the go to non-White nations instead of destroying ours??

    Asking for a friend.

    From the anti-White perspective, no one should have to live in a brown country EXCEPT White people

    Access to White people is NOT a human right.

    Cuck: Schlomo is my friend.
    Schlomo: I can’t wait to flood his town with non-white immigrants.

  128. @densa
    I am also against the educational-propaganda complex. Why oh why didn't the GOP take on the public employees unions? Their members are used as shock troops for corporate policies masquerading as public policy. They swung the vote on ACA, calling the self-employed who couldn't afford insurance 'free riders' even as the care and feeding of the public employee has made public education unaffordable. Public education is a fat tick draining the community dry of funds to pay for endless inanity such as gender inclusive toilets. Meanwhile, useful education, not so much.

    Unions for public employees should be illegal. The schools negotiate with the unions, both at the expense of the payer who is omitted from their considerations. Public employment is, well public, and not for-profit by definition. A union moves the power center from a local matter to a national mafiosa increasingly in cahoots with big money interest such as GE Healthcare. (That was ACA, now it's Big Pharma and the newly blooming vaccination racket.) Schools are the biggest source of Democratic Party power and the GOP never fights for all the unwilling financiers of it, the taxpayers.

    Scott Walker took on the public unions in Wisconsin to pretty good effect. Not too many are following his lead.

    It’s the usual emotional debate: suggest cutting ed money, and the professional grievers spring into action, complete with tear stained children rotting in the streets.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Speaking of unions, here is some good news: https://reason.com/blog/2019/04/09/janus-211000-workers-fled-seiu-afscme
  129. @Ragno
    That clinches it.

    Having worn the tread off the tires of 'fascist', 'bigot', 'Nazi', 'neo-Nazi' and 'white supremacist', the millenial Bolsheviks determined to watch the Western world burn - and the cultural-Marxist puppeteers who yank their strings - are now lashing themselves to the wheel of "WHITE NATIONALIST".

    Of course, this unprecedented wave of racism disguised as "anti-racism" - ongoing for a decade now, but raging like an out-of-control forest fire for the past 3/4 years - demonstrates only that the scuttlefish who peered up at normal folks from the dungeons of their own neuroses no longer fear the objects of their hatred. Perhaps watching and reading our vaunted chattering classes in the media blithely shouting fire! in crowded places, with zero consequences following, has emboldened them.

    Antifa are not only legal but legally untouchable; bomb-tossing elected radicals are swooned over by our nation's intellectual gatekeepers. In the meantime, patriots and citizens loyal to our Constitution, who have lived their lives playing by the rules, now exist with bullseyes drawn on their backs, and wait for the next outrage driving them further into the hinterlands.

    "White nationalism" isn't just a slur; it's in all likelihood, the only road back to civilization. You're better off by far on a Bad Guy list than to have your name erased altogether.

    ongoing for a decade now, but raging like an out-of-control forest fire for the past 3/4 years

    Let’s hope it’s more like Ebola, so deadly it spread is retarded.

  130. I’m confused . Which of those is the wrong one?

  131. @Jack D
    Right but Bryan didn't think that they would end up as our overlords - he was concerned that they were sub-human. I'm telling you that digging up Bryan quotes from 1906 is not in your interest because he turned out to be completely wrong about the coolies of 1906 and people will use this to say that you are equally wrong about Somalis.

    Let’s make sure not to quote ol’ Uncle Albert either. As we now know, he got it wrong too.

    From A. Einstein on his visit to China:

    “peculiar herd-like nation”

    “industrious, filthy, obtuse people”

    “often more like automatons than people”

    “even the children are spiritless and look obtuse”

    “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.”

  132. Is this real life or a meme? I am too lazy to Google it, but there is no way that two white guys named Kaplan and Weinersmith could possibly lack this level of self awareness. I can’t put my finger on this, but I am certain it is either a joke… Or something far more nefarious

  133. @Jack D
    I really have nothing against you and your ancestors. They really build a great country (in part BECAUSE they let in people like those coolies and my refugee parents). I wish they had skipped bringing over the Africans, but hey, nobody's perfect.

    My point was that Bryan misdiagnosed the situation. The Chinese coolies (and my shtetl ancestors) were poor and lived in hovels not because there was anything wrong with them but because they were misruled. As soon as they came under American rule (created by people like your ancestors and for that I thank them immeasurably) they thrived like saplings transplanted from the desert into rich fertile soil. The coolies that your great grandpa brought over did not form some sort of permanent underclass. They were not racially incompatible with life in a Western Democracy.

    Now that doesn't mean that EVERY immigrant group has the same potential as the Chinese or the Jews - just because it turned out OK the last time doesn't mean it will work great this time with Salvadorans or Rwandans. Nor does it mean that we can have unlimited immigration even of proven winners like Chinese. But, the fact remains that Bryan was just plain wrong about the Chinese so I don't know what the point is of quoting him as ammunition for your side.

    This sounds like Ryan Faulk*/The Alternative Hypothesis’s First Worldism – a kind of explicitly HBD-aware version of civic nationalism, based on shared inborn traits instead of just shared values. He abandoned white nationalism for first worldism last year.

    * He often uses his real name.

  134. White glasses-wearers have pupil privilege.

  135. @DuanDiRen
    I am very fond of Bryan Caplan, and "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" is the book I have given as a gift the most often. He is painfully honest and sincere, and I would class him, like Robin Hanson, as a genuine Sage.

    That said, on this particular topic, I think he is just wrong. He is a super smart guy, surrounded by other super smart people, and he thinks the 100,000,000 SSAs who would move to the USA with open borders would be smart like him.

    Caplan is the sort of Cato person distracted by pointless intellectual puzzles like “rational irrationality,” thinks public choice is a catchy name, and pretends anarcho-capitalism is possible. Pfft.

    No one ever thought voters were rational, Bry. And no one cares open-border libertarians can put their names on comic books.

  136. @Cagey Beast
    Lauren Lauren could call herself Lauren Weinersmith Lauren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bush

    Lauren Lauren’s mother was a Smith before marriage, so she could have been Lauren BushSmith before marriage.

    Her husband is 3/4 Jew and 1/4 German Catholic. Their 3/8 Jewish son, per Jack D’s rule, would be James WeinerBushSmith Lauren. If he returned to his great-grandparents’ native Vienna, he’d be a Weiner James WeinerBushSmith Lauren.

    • LOL: Cagey Beast
  137. @Anonymous
    I missed it if Steve cited it but last year a "graphic novel," i.e. long expensive comic book, was longlisted for the Booker Prize, a supposed first as far as these things go.

    James Bowman has written about how the American movie diet is increasingly dependent on prepubescent power fantasies about robots, mutants, cosplay karate, etc. but the pseudo-mature Warholian comic-ification of every other mass-media format is well advanced. In the superficial gay-run capitalist society we won't have options among "pop" and "intellectual" culture, just an optimized spectrum of prolefeed in the style of chintzy shonen warrior-damsels wearing Jap/Korean school uniforms

    And what’s wrong with that, providing we get some great Rule 34 out of it?

  138. @Reg Cæsar

    To Serve Man
     
    Rod Serling often worked into the wee hours the night before filming, not getting ideas until the last minute and rushing to get them done for the cast.

    I wonder if this was one of those. And the plastic surgery one, too.

    Or were the bad ones rush jobs?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puo82y6MsBQ

    To Serve Man was a short story predating the show, and Serling also showed the short film adapted from Ambrose Bierce’s ” An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge ” as an episode as well.

  139. OT: In the tradition of Hamilton and The Wiz, the next ethnic remake should be The Sound of Music.

    In the play, a Rwandan Uber driver meets a young Hispanic Socialist and Open Borders advocate working as a barmaid who runs for Congress. Together, they avoid White Nationalists wearing red Black Spider hats.

    Songs:

    The Border’s Alive (cast of twirling millions sing theme in Spanish, Somalian, Rwandan, etc.)
    (How Do You Solve A Problem Like) Alexandria?
    Climb Every Wall (till you find your dream)
    I Have Twelve Kids (going on thirteen kids [not to mention 73 nieces and nephews])
    These Are A Few Of My Favorite Bennies (free education, health care, food stamps my favorite benefits)
    Ref-U-Gee (also A-Sy-Lum; when you find the word to sing, you can have most any thing!)
    The Lonely Goatherd (would rather collect benefits in a big city, thank you very much)
    So Long, Farewell, Not (these kids aren’t going anywhere)

  140. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    Open borders is an interesting term. Does Canada maintain a secure border with the US to keep Yanks out, or Canadians in? Or is it to keep non Yanks out?

    The Canadian border is not terribly secure, but until now it didn’t need to be.

    I made a good amount of money running hardware store Garand rifles out of Winnipeg and Calgary as a teenager. They were cheap at Canadian stores but could not legally be imported into the US then, for no good reason. If you knew where to cross and did not act suspicious you could get across at hundreds of places.

    At shift time driving from Detroit to Windsor was a wavethrough as long as you looked the part of a UAW autoworker. I never hauled guns that way but went across a couple of times with no bother as late as 1999 or so.

    I had a friend with no passport or passport card accidentally tool into Canada once while doing radio direction finding. So he goes to the US crossing point and they detained him for eighteen hours before letting him back, fingerprinted him, searched the car the whole thing. If he’d just turned around and went back he’d have had no problems. So much for honesty.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, I grew up in WNY and entry into Canada is via a bridge crossing. Very secure and now sometimes very time consuming.
  141. @Buffalo Joe
    Ragno, that is one of the most descriptive phrases ever..."Having worn the tread off the tires of fascist, bigot, Nazi, neo-Nazi and White supremacist..." Bravo.

    Remember the six tired car they had on Hogan’s Heroes? Those perfidious Nazis thought of everything, didn’t they? Tread was their thing, along with hobnailed jackboots.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    That's actually a very rare Mercedes W31, one of only a handful known to still exist. One of the other ones was a gift from Hitler to Generalissimo Franco. In general they were issued only to high ranking Nazis. Somehow that one ended up in Hollywood after the war where the mostly Jewish Nazis of Hogan's Heroes could ride around in them.
  142. @Anonymous
    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It's a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.

    I view whites lashing out violently as being akin to the white suicide rate rising. Some people will get angry and lash out at others, some will feel sadness and take their own life -- It depends on personal psychology, but the source of both problems is the same. If whites suddenly become much more violent or despondent, there are reasons. The concept of 'white fragility' has already been rolled out to explain this away.

    Watching this stuff being drummed up is a surreal experience. It's leading us all somewhere not very nice.

    Yes, a well explained comment. I believe these Jews and white liberals (tptb) must have some kind of playbook written out. It must span several decades and ultimately leads to white genocide. They are too well organized to not have some central command. What is the central command? I don’t know.

    As far as whites being the most murderous demographic, well, we have quite a ways to go before we hit the negro benchmark.

    In fact, I don’t think the media pushing whites as a murderous race is a bad thing. It’s true. Whites are savage warriors and conquerors. As long as a rising white murder rate doesn’t involve other whites, it’s a good thing and will actually scare non-whites.

    White suicide rates are a bigger problem, but even then it selects out the weaker white genes.

    It’s leading us all somewhere not very nice.

    The plan was to kill off all the whites before we wake up. But whitey has at least a little more fight than (((they))) anticipated. We shall see where this leads.

    • LOL: IHTG
  143. @Desiderius
    If the choice is between Yang and O’Rourke I’m with Yang.

    If the choice is between Yang and O’Rourke I’m with Uruguay.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    We have some connections in Hungary so we're leaning that way if it comes to that. Uruguay has some nice features too. I'd be willing to give Yang or whatever Chinese overlord takes over if we go into receivership a chance. Beto is probably more Obama so that could be survivable.

    Somebody vindictive gets in then shit gets real serious.
  144. @El Dato

    Boomer America watched all this stuff they were kids and drank it in like milk without thinking much about it. But that doesn’t mean it had no effect on them. Or that it wasn’t intended to.

     

    Well it's TV.

    Of course these are all little fables, often with morality, updated for the nuclear age and red scare, featuring MONSTERS! FROM SPAAAACE!

    But so what.

    You can alternatively read "the collected stories of Philip K. Dick"

    Of course these are all little fables, often with morality, updated for the nuclear age and red scare, featuring MONSTERS! FROM SPAAAACE!

    Sure, and the nervous neighbors were just cossacks brownshirts normal Americans who would turn – turn in an instant don’t you know – into a mob of dangerous fanatics given the right stimulus.

  145. @bored identity
    bored identity strongly believes that not to many Americans nowadays even know that the original GibMeYourWretched Lady had more of that classic, native, the Lost Tribe style beauty ; before know-nothing bastards secretly hacksawed & chiseled Her story, and Our history, to fit their disgustingly supremacist narrative:


    https://i.postimg.cc/tgHdngQk/Weimerican-Beauty.jpg


    Educate yourself, peasants:

    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/77499/native-americans-part-ten-lost-tribes/


    P.S.

    To bored identity's Jack Lot D friends:

    Vote early, vote often!

    Maybe the Apes were right after all, Doughnut. They put the kibosh on that whole Emma Lazarus bit:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Oops, not Doughnut, but Bored Identity. Sorry for the mix up in Identities.
  146. @Achmed E. Newman
    Maybe the Apes were right after all, Doughnut. They put the kibosh on that whole Emma Lazarus bit:

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/Lady_Liberty_Head.jpg

    Oops, not Doughnut, but Bored Identity. Sorry for the mix up in Identities.

  147. Well, there’s today’s ration of boiling anger… On the topic of web comic artists who support open borders, another example is the author of “Bob the Angry Flower”, drawn by Stephen Notley, a scion of Canada’s Alberta New Democratic Party.

  148. @Tiny Duck
    Kyle Korver a white NBA player writes a brace and honest article about the evils of white privilrge

    The tide is turning

    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba

    Do you feel more, ‘Tiny Duckish’ when you’re hammered? Perhaps you should get help for your alcoholism? When you cannot use spell check you’re too drunk to type.

  149. The immigrants on the cover of that comic book have that uniformly cheerful, unfocused look you see in indoctrinational material prepared for schoolchildren.

    I assume these aren’t the same immigrants the New York Times hires to write op-eds about how racist and awful America is.

  150. @Jack D
    When I make a stew I sometimes put a little soy sauce in it for flavor but if I pour a whole bottle into the pot, it's not so good.

    True enough. You are a good cook. But we’re not making stew. And the soy sauce doesn’t reproduce itself, becoming greater and greater in qty, taking over the dish.

  151. @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China

    Never been, but in the pictures all the natives have a weird permanent squint. I assume their terrible smog has burned their corneas. Not smart and not a good look.

  152. @AnotherDad
    I can't tell from the Bryan quote here exactly what he thinks of the Chinese.

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.

    The Chinese Exclusion Act was the sort of wise far-sighted leadership--of the sort Baden-Powell spoke of in his "Rivers of Blood" speech--actually standing up for the existing citizens of the nation. I'm very, very glad my ancestors had the opportunity to work hard and build lives in a nation not flooded with Chinese.

    And the same goes for today. I don't want my kids to have to compete with a flood of Chinese. It's not that they aren't competitive, they are all far smarter than the average Chinese. But if forced to compete with tens of millions of Chinese ... then they'd have to start living lives like the Chinese. No thanks. And for what purpose? None.

    Let the Chinese build their paradise in China, according to Chinese norms, customs, values. That's all well and good. Americans should do the same in America. And we should deport this odious Caplan creep to wherever will take him, or set him adrift. He's not an American and does not belong here.

    Hear, hear! China for the Chinese, America for Americans.

  153. @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    That despite their fancy high-speed trains, despite the booming skyscrapers of Shanghai, despite no fear of crime, etc., the lesson we should take is that China is a shit-hole.

    Yes, China is a shit-hole. And I can say that despite having never been to China. And the reason I can say this is because there is a virtual endless amount of Chinese who want to leave China, and those with the means to do so, do. Additionally, there are an awful lot of Chinese who were born and raised in our crime-ridden, crappy Amtrak nation who have the opportunity to go back to China, but don’t.

  154. @Buffalo Joe
    Open borders is an interesting term. Does Canada maintain a secure border with the US to keep Yanks out, or Canadians in? Or is it to keep non Yanks out?

    Didn’t a lot of Americans bumrush the Canada border to dodge the draft during the Vietnam War?

  155. @Anonymous
    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It's a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.

    I view whites lashing out violently as being akin to the white suicide rate rising. Some people will get angry and lash out at others, some will feel sadness and take their own life -- It depends on personal psychology, but the source of both problems is the same. If whites suddenly become much more violent or despondent, there are reasons. The concept of 'white fragility' has already been rolled out to explain this away.

    Watching this stuff being drummed up is a surreal experience. It's leading us all somewhere not very nice.

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now.

    But if you count what they call the “Good War”, and count the USSR as mostly white, it’s probably true.

    Skill kills.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I was surprised to learn that the 10-year long Mexican Revolution, which wrapped up about a century ago, resulted in the deaths of at least one million people. That's comparable to the number of Americans killed in all our wars.

    http://www.emersonkent.com/wars_and_battles_in_history/mexican_revolution.htm

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/many-americans-died-u-s-wars
  156. @bored identity
    bored identity strongly believes that not to many Americans nowadays even know that the original GibMeYourWretched Lady had more of that classic, native, the Lost Tribe style beauty ; before know-nothing bastards secretly hacksawed & chiseled Her story, and Our history, to fit their disgustingly supremacist narrative:


    https://i.postimg.cc/tgHdngQk/Weimerican-Beauty.jpg


    Educate yourself, peasants:

    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/77499/native-americans-part-ten-lost-tribes/


    P.S.

    To bored identity's Jack Lot D friends:

    Vote early, vote often!

    Did Napoleon IV’s soldiers shoot her nose off?

  157. @Reg Cæsar

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now.
     
    But if you count what they call the "Good War", and count the USSR as mostly white, it's probably true.

    Skill kills.

    I was surprised to learn that the 10-year long Mexican Revolution, which wrapped up about a century ago, resulted in the deaths of at least one million people. That’s comparable to the number of Americans killed in all our wars.

    http://www.emersonkent.com/wars_and_battles_in_history/mexican_revolution.htm

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/many-americans-died-u-s-wars

  158. @Anonymous
    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It's a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.

    I view whites lashing out violently as being akin to the white suicide rate rising. Some people will get angry and lash out at others, some will feel sadness and take their own life -- It depends on personal psychology, but the source of both problems is the same. If whites suddenly become much more violent or despondent, there are reasons. The concept of 'white fragility' has already been rolled out to explain this away.

    Watching this stuff being drummed up is a surreal experience. It's leading us all somewhere not very nice.

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now.

    The left is best understood, characterologically, as a psychotic Jewish ex-girlfriend. She makes no sense, and contradicts herself constantly. She just spews hatred. E.g., Trump is both a bumbling incompetent, and an evil mastermind. White men are both pathetic losers, and the best killers. White Nationalists are a total joke, and the greatest threat to mankind. Anti-semitism is everywhere, but the goyim are naive boobs who will never catch on. Etc.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Ronald Reagan figured this out about anti-Communists and the Soviet Union. The conventional wisdom was full of such contradictions.

    Just come up with something they can't possibly afford, and it's all over.
  159. @Svigor

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now.
     
    The left is best understood, characterologically, as a psychotic Jewish ex-girlfriend. She makes no sense, and contradicts herself constantly. She just spews hatred. E.g., Trump is both a bumbling incompetent, and an evil mastermind. White men are both pathetic losers, and the best killers. White Nationalists are a total joke, and the greatest threat to mankind. Anti-semitism is everywhere, but the goyim are naive boobs who will never catch on. Etc.

    Ronald Reagan figured this out about anti-Communists and the Soviet Union. The conventional wisdom was full of such contradictions.

    Just come up with something they can’t possibly afford, and it’s all over.

  160. It’s because open borders and diversity uber alles policies have jumped the shark.

  161. @anon
    Wienersmith's wife is a prof. at Rice U. Her field of interest:

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.
     

    I study how host behavior influences risk of infection with parasites, and how parasites subsequently change host behavior and correlations between host phenotypic traits. I’m particularly interested in parasites that manipulate the phenotype of their hosts to increase the parasite’s likelihood of transmission.

    My kind of woman.

  162. @AnotherDad
    I can't tell from the Bryan quote here exactly what he thinks of the Chinese.

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.

    The Chinese Exclusion Act was the sort of wise far-sighted leadership--of the sort Baden-Powell spoke of in his "Rivers of Blood" speech--actually standing up for the existing citizens of the nation. I'm very, very glad my ancestors had the opportunity to work hard and build lives in a nation not flooded with Chinese.

    And the same goes for today. I don't want my kids to have to compete with a flood of Chinese. It's not that they aren't competitive, they are all far smarter than the average Chinese. But if forced to compete with tens of millions of Chinese ... then they'd have to start living lives like the Chinese. No thanks. And for what purpose? None.

    Let the Chinese build their paradise in China, according to Chinese norms, customs, values. That's all well and good. Americans should do the same in America. And we should deport this odious Caplan creep to wherever will take him, or set him adrift. He's not an American and does not belong here.

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.

    It was Lafcadio Hearn who first warned the West of this danger:

    One side of that truth ought to be familiar to Americans,—the Occidental side. The Occidental has discovered that, under any conditions of fair play, he cannot compete with the Oriental in the struggle for life: he has fully confessed the fact, both in Australia and in the United States, by the passage of laws to protect himself against Asiatic emigration. For outrages upon Chinese or Japanese immigrants he has nevertheless offered a host of absurd “moral reasons.” The only true reason can be formulated in six words: The Oriental can underlive the Occidental.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/55802/55802-h/55802-h.htm

    He would know. He lived his life out as a naturalized subject of the Emperor of Japan.


    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    The Occidental has discovered that, under any conditions of fair play, he cannot compete with the Oriental in the struggle for life: he has fully confessed the fact, both in Australia and in the United States, by the passage of laws to protect himself against Asiatic emigration
     
    If others do well, especially when I consider them in my subjective view to be playing fairly, good for them. By every measure of success, I know lots of people who are more successful than me. The idea of resenting others for their success is terrible. If other people play fair and do well, good for them. When I go to the gym, and I see other people in better shape than myself, I don't see myself as competing with anyone but myself. If they advance faster than me, good for them.

    Secondly, I do selfishly want to do well. I don't want to beat my neighbors. But I do want to live a happy and productive and generally successfully life. And I'd like to make those around me happier as well.

    If Asians do well, or if people from any other identity group do well, good for them, especially if I consider things to be roughly fair. If I think something isn't fair, and fairness is highly subjective, well, ideally that can be improved upon.

    Lastly, this is probably the worst reason to restrict immigration that I can imagine. If large numbers of migrants can do a better job than me... well I really hope my career and middle class lifestyle isn't ruined, and that's possible... But I don't think I have a morally valid reason to protect myself from competition.

    I currently support immigration restrictions in terms of ethnic/cultural identity reasons, which is kind of taboo.
  163. @Moral Stone
    The cartoonist is certainly Zach Weinersmith, of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. He actually has some pretty funny comics but he's definitely in the tech-utopia bubble that houses a lot of overly optimistic people. In discussing the book, he says that he thinks the and Caplan can justify completely open borders even under an "America first" paradigm, which seems on the surface ridiculous. He also says that we should have unlimited immigration even if we believe what IQ stats tell us about third-world countries, which is an argument I would be interested to read.

    Here's the link to his description: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/open-borders

    The cartoonist is certainly Zach Weinersmith, of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. He actually has some pretty funny comics but he’s definitely in the tech-utopia bubble that houses a lot of overly optimistic people. In discussing the book, he says that he thinks the and Caplan can justify completely open borders even under an “America first” paradigm, which seems on the surface ridiculous.

    There is no way to justify “open borders” in the long run from any perspective — including the “Is it good for the Jews?” perspective — because “open borders” would ensure there is no long run.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    There is no way to justify “open borders” in the long run from any perspective — including the “Is it good for the Jews?” perspective — because “open borders” would ensure there is no long run.
     
    Open borders benefits outsiders and harms citizens... I actually agree with the free market aspect that free markets should be open borders. I also agree with the premise of the book Whiteshift, that white people have legitimate cultural interests that they should protect and advance.
  164. “Trump picks Miller, setting up potential clash with Kushner on immigration”: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article229040334.html

    I told youuuuu

    • Replies: @IHTG
    "The villain and the naif: Miller and Kushner on a potential collision course in Trump’s border crisis": https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/miller-and-kushner-on-a-potential-collision-course-as-trumps-border-crisis-builds/2019/04/10/81f91530-5a45-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html
    , @Svigor
    If you aren't clashing with people like the Kushners, you're doing it wrong. What a vile little nest of vipers they are. Every time I learn more about them I have to go and shower.
  165. @Jack D
    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?

    And what lessons do you learn when you can’t actually see any of those things because entire cities are immersed in alveoli-wrecking smog? Even better, what would you see if you were to step outside of the major cities?

  166. @IHTG
    "Trump picks Miller, setting up potential clash with Kushner on immigration": https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article229040334.html

    I told youuuuu
    • Replies: @IHTG
    "How Stephen Miller tightened his grip over Trump's immigration and border policy": https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/10/politics/stephen-miller-tightens-grip-on-immigration-border-policy/index.html
  167. @ben tillman

    The cartoonist is certainly Zach Weinersmith, of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. He actually has some pretty funny comics but he’s definitely in the tech-utopia bubble that houses a lot of overly optimistic people. In discussing the book, he says that he thinks the and Caplan can justify completely open borders even under an “America first” paradigm, which seems on the surface ridiculous.
     
    There is no way to justify "open borders" in the long run from any perspective -- including the "Is it good for the Jews?" perspective -- because "open borders" would ensure there is no long run.

    There is no way to justify “open borders” in the long run from any perspective — including the “Is it good for the Jews?” perspective — because “open borders” would ensure there is no long run.

    Open borders benefits outsiders and harms citizens… I actually agree with the free market aspect that free markets should be open borders. I also agree with the premise of the book Whiteshift, that white people have legitimate cultural interests that they should protect and advance.

  168. @AnotherDad

    So what lessons should we take now when you visit China and ride their high speed trains that put ours to shame, walk around the skyscrapers of Shanghai late at night without fear of crime, see how much they dote on their children, etc.?
     
    That we're going to be in a world of hurt if we keep listening to the Bryan Caplans of this world and rush even further into Brazilification.

    If they, not we – ask them, continue down that path Brazil would be wildly optimistic.

  169. @eah
    https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/151464146578313216

  170. @Anonymous
    Remember the six tired car they had on Hogan's Heroes? Those perfidious Nazis thought of everything, didn't they? Tread was their thing, along with hobnailed jackboots.

    https://metvcdn.metv.com/I83GU-1534187377-2177-blog-hogans_mercedes_1200.jpg

    That’s actually a very rare Mercedes W31, one of only a handful known to still exist. One of the other ones was a gift from Hitler to Generalissimo Franco. In general they were issued only to high ranking Nazis. Somehow that one ended up in Hollywood after the war where the mostly Jewish Nazis of Hogan’s Heroes could ride around in them.

  171. @Anonymous
    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It's a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.

    I view whites lashing out violently as being akin to the white suicide rate rising. Some people will get angry and lash out at others, some will feel sadness and take their own life -- It depends on personal psychology, but the source of both problems is the same. If whites suddenly become much more violent or despondent, there are reasons. The concept of 'white fragility' has already been rolled out to explain this away.

    Watching this stuff being drummed up is a surreal experience. It's leading us all somewhere not very nice.

    This new meme that white men are the most murderous demographic is being pushed relentlessly now. They seem to be pushing whites over the edge and claiming the results are intrinsic to white people. It’s a clever ploy. They are nothing if not clever.

    To quote Ross Douthat from the NYT:

    Yes, the world of nations is full of arbitrary borders, invented traditions, and convenient mythologies layered atop histories of plunder and pillage.

    It is true that “white nations” founded by “white people” absolutely used violence and plunder and pillage.

    What is dishonest, or at least highly manipulative, is to suggest that this is particular to white people, and not the norm across all peoples and all nations of history. That’s deliberate. Bryan Caplan, to his partial credit, does admit this, although quietly. White identity is very uniquely targeted for suppression and elimination in ways that other ethnic groups are not. Caplan believes all ethnic groupings and identities should be undermined and destroyed, it’s just most convenient and viable to target white ethnic identity at this point and time in history.

  172. @Reg Cæsar

    But if you read some of the stuff written during the time of the Chinese Exclusion Act, the gist of it is the Chinese work hard and can live on very little. I.e. they would make it impossible for the white man to compete at a decent standard of living and would immiserate everyone.
     
    It was Lafcadio Hearn who first warned the West of this danger:

    One side of that truth ought to be familiar to Americans,—the Occidental side. The Occidental has discovered that, under any conditions of fair play, he cannot compete with the Oriental in the struggle for life: he has fully confessed the fact, both in Australia and in the United States, by the passage of laws to protect himself against Asiatic emigration. For outrages upon Chinese or Japanese immigrants he has nevertheless offered a host of absurd "moral reasons." The only true reason can be formulated in six words: The Oriental can underlive the Occidental.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/55802/55802-h/55802-h.htm


     

    He would know. He lived his life out as a naturalized subject of the Emperor of Japan.

    https://kendo.co/bkr/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/P1040739-768x576.jpg


    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9667/311695.524/0_9a9a0_4a3653ed_XL.jpg

    The Occidental has discovered that, under any conditions of fair play, he cannot compete with the Oriental in the struggle for life: he has fully confessed the fact, both in Australia and in the United States, by the passage of laws to protect himself against Asiatic emigration

    If others do well, especially when I consider them in my subjective view to be playing fairly, good for them. By every measure of success, I know lots of people who are more successful than me. The idea of resenting others for their success is terrible. If other people play fair and do well, good for them. When I go to the gym, and I see other people in better shape than myself, I don’t see myself as competing with anyone but myself. If they advance faster than me, good for them.

    Secondly, I do selfishly want to do well. I don’t want to beat my neighbors. But I do want to live a happy and productive and generally successfully life. And I’d like to make those around me happier as well.

    If Asians do well, or if people from any other identity group do well, good for them, especially if I consider things to be roughly fair. If I think something isn’t fair, and fairness is highly subjective, well, ideally that can be improved upon.

    Lastly, this is probably the worst reason to restrict immigration that I can imagine. If large numbers of migrants can do a better job than me… well I really hope my career and middle class lifestyle isn’t ruined, and that’s possible… But I don’t think I have a morally valid reason to protect myself from competition.

    I currently support immigration restrictions in terms of ethnic/cultural identity reasons, which is kind of taboo.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    You totally missed Hearn's point. Asians aren't doing well, they're eking out on less.

    Think of 15 Mexicans living in a garage, vs. your mortgage.
  173. @IHTG
    "The villain and the naif: Miller and Kushner on a potential collision course in Trump’s border crisis": https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/miller-and-kushner-on-a-potential-collision-course-as-trumps-border-crisis-builds/2019/04/10/81f91530-5a45-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html

    “How Stephen Miller tightened his grip over Trump’s immigration and border policy”: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/10/politics/stephen-miller-tightens-grip-on-immigration-border-policy/index.html

  174. @Anonymous
    The Canadian border is not terribly secure, but until now it didn't need to be.

    I made a good amount of money running hardware store Garand rifles out of Winnipeg and Calgary as a teenager. They were cheap at Canadian stores but could not legally be imported into the US then, for no good reason. If you knew where to cross and did not act suspicious you could get across at hundreds of places.

    At shift time driving from Detroit to Windsor was a wavethrough as long as you looked the part of a UAW autoworker. I never hauled guns that way but went across a couple of times with no bother as late as 1999 or so.

    I had a friend with no passport or passport card accidentally tool into Canada once while doing radio direction finding. So he goes to the US crossing point and they detained him for eighteen hours before letting him back, fingerprinted him, searched the car the whole thing. If he'd just turned around and went back he'd have had no problems. So much for honesty.

    Anon, I grew up in WNY and entry into Canada is via a bridge crossing. Very secure and now sometimes very time consuming.

  175. @Laugh Track
    I know zilch about whether Bryan or Zach is the cartoonist here, but whoever is the artist has captured that wide-eyed AOC look, like everyone is just amazed and hopeful that everything will just work out. "Open Borders"? No problem, if we just stay amazed and hopeful.

    How do you say “Si Se Puede” and “Mucho trabajo, poquito dinero” in Bengali, Urdu and Swahili ?

    These Libertarian types are beyond reckless. They want to immerse the West in a Malthusian nightmare from which we can never escape. Truly they belong in the equivalent of a leper colony for saboteurs of civilization.

  176. @countenance
    That's the shot.

    The chaser is that almost all big name open borders politicians will deny that they are for open borders.

    They call it sensible immigration.

  177. @IHTG
    "Trump picks Miller, setting up potential clash with Kushner on immigration": https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article229040334.html

    I told youuuuu

    If you aren’t clashing with people like the Kushners, you’re doing it wrong. What a vile little nest of vipers they are. Every time I learn more about them I have to go and shower.

  178. @Achmed E. Newman
    If the choice is between Yang and O'Rourke I'm with Uruguay.

    We have some connections in Hungary so we’re leaning that way if it comes to that. Uruguay has some nice features too. I’d be willing to give Yang or whatever Chinese overlord takes over if we go into receivership a chance. Beto is probably more Obama so that could be survivable.

    Somebody vindictive gets in then shit gets real serious.

  179. super boring – never understood who would bother reading this dull cartoon/animated stuff??? I often wonder why mostly Jewish writers/cartoonists/illustrators are so hard-up for Muslims? I just don’t understand why they are swooning for Islam?

  180. @Massimo Heitor

    The Occidental has discovered that, under any conditions of fair play, he cannot compete with the Oriental in the struggle for life: he has fully confessed the fact, both in Australia and in the United States, by the passage of laws to protect himself against Asiatic emigration
     
    If others do well, especially when I consider them in my subjective view to be playing fairly, good for them. By every measure of success, I know lots of people who are more successful than me. The idea of resenting others for their success is terrible. If other people play fair and do well, good for them. When I go to the gym, and I see other people in better shape than myself, I don't see myself as competing with anyone but myself. If they advance faster than me, good for them.

    Secondly, I do selfishly want to do well. I don't want to beat my neighbors. But I do want to live a happy and productive and generally successfully life. And I'd like to make those around me happier as well.

    If Asians do well, or if people from any other identity group do well, good for them, especially if I consider things to be roughly fair. If I think something isn't fair, and fairness is highly subjective, well, ideally that can be improved upon.

    Lastly, this is probably the worst reason to restrict immigration that I can imagine. If large numbers of migrants can do a better job than me... well I really hope my career and middle class lifestyle isn't ruined, and that's possible... But I don't think I have a morally valid reason to protect myself from competition.

    I currently support immigration restrictions in terms of ethnic/cultural identity reasons, which is kind of taboo.

    You totally missed Hearn’s point. Asians aren’t doing well, they’re eking out on less.

    Think of 15 Mexicans living in a garage, vs. your mortgage.

  181. @bomag
    Someone please take Caplan's book, "The Case Against Education"; cross out the word "education" throughout, replace it with "immigration", and mail the book to precious Bryan.

    Here's the Amazon blurb with some editing:

    Why we need to stop wasting public funds on immigration

    Despite being immensely popular--and immensely lucrative--immigration is grossly overrated. In this explosive book, Bryan Caplan argues that the primary function of immigration is not to enhance anything, but to signal the qualities of a good White person. Learn why decades of growing access to immigration has not resulted in better jobs for the average worker but instead in runaway credential inflation, how employers reward workers for costly schooling they rarely if ever use, and why cutting immigration spending is the best remedy.

    Caplan draws on the latest social science to show how the labor market values political positions over ability, and why the more immigration your rivals have, the more you need to impress politicians and media lackeys. He explains why PC is our society's top conformity signal, and why even the most useless asylum seeker gets status over natives. He advocates two major policy responses. The first is immigration austerity. Government needs to sharply cut immigration funding to curb this wasteful rat race. The second is more vocational immigration, because practical skills are more socially valuable than nice White ladies adopting a thug.

    Romantic notions about immigration being "good for the soul" must yield to careful research and common sense--The Case against Immigration points the way.

    Someone please take Caplan’s book, “The Case Against Education”; cross out the word “education” throughout, replace it with “immigration”, and mail the book to precious Bryan

    Roy Beck was way ahead of you– and Bryan. As was Mark Krikorian.

  182. @MEH 0910
    In 1999, writer Alan Moore (of Watchmen comic book fame) had his comic book pulp hero Tom Strong declaim, in the spirit of Lewontin's Fallacy: "Do you know how much detectible genetic difference there is between you, a Japanese businessman, a Madagascan fisherman or a Hassidic Jew? Precisely none! The racial purity that you're defending doesn't even exist!"

    Tom Strong #4 - "Swastika Girls!"

    I wonder if Alan Moore picked up his Lewontin's Fallacy from Steven Rose in England?

    LOL. The first page has Tom Strong in bed with a black woman. +2 virtue-signal points. Buuuuuuut… it also has a “gorilla” butler serving them. – ∞ points!!! Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!

    • Replies: @MEH 0910

    Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!
     
    For Tom Strong, Alan Moore is the writer, the penciller is Chris Sprouse.
    , @MEH 0910
    The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier (3/3)

    "The only thing that I’d previously heard concerning this person was Kevin’s brief account of someone he’d apparently encountered at an American signing for The Black Dossier, an African-American woman (if that is still an acceptable U.S. term) who had seemed upset by our inclusion of the Golliwog/Galley-Wag. In Kevin’s account as I remember it he’d done his best to explain but was left feeling that he may have done an inadequate job, and that the woman hadn’t seemed to be interested in his account of Florence Upton’s original creation, or in the context within which we’d come to our decision. [...] Possibly because I’m typing this on Christmas Eve I feel inclined, despite the long hiatus between this person first airing her grievance and us hearing anything further from her, to take her stance at face value. I can readily imagine how justifiably angry the depiction of non-white characters in contemporary comics, or the relatively tiny number of artists or writers of colour compared to the number of non-white comic readers, could make anyone, irrespective of their colour or ethnicity. I simply feel – and this is only my personal opinion and in no way privileged over her own – that in this instance that anger is misdirected. As I understand it from the questions I’ve been asked, the major bone of contention seems to be the question of whether white creators can presume to present possibly controversial material relating to black characters. I’ve addressed this more comprehensively above, but would only add that if I had adopted this attitude back in 1999/2000, there is every likelihood that the United States, surely embarrassingly, would be nearly a decade-and-a-half into the 21st century and still without any positive examples of mixed-race marriages producing mixed-race offspring anywhere in its media. Certainly not in its comic books. (I’m referring to Tom Strong here...) - Alan Moore
     
    The Black Dossier – Return of the ‘Golliwogg’
    https://tygertale.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/wpid-photo-11-feb-2014-2308.jpg
    https://tygertale.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/wpid-photo-5-feb-2014-1644.jpg
    https://tygertale.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/wpid-photo-5-feb-2014-16451.jpg

    In 2007, Moore and Kevin O'Neill, his 'south London Irish racist collaborator' (Moore's words), published The Black Dossier, the third volume in their comic book series 'The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'. Spanning an alternative 20th Century the League are a group of government agents based on characters from Victorian genre fiction. Alumni include Mina Harker, the Invisible Man and Doctor Jekyll and in The Black Dossier the league square up to a very unreconstructed spy called 'Jimmy Bond'. But they're aided by an even more controversial figure.
     
    https://tygertale.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/wpid-photo-5-feb-2014-1645.jpg

    Galley-Wag is a new version of the Golliwogg character from Florence Upton's enormously popular picture book series from the beginning of the 20th Century. But, as Moore is at pains to point out, this is not the same thing as the later 'Golliwog' that people born before the 1990s will remember, 'Here we had a character which in its day was positive, bold, innovative, and the creation of a typically overlooked woman creator who had quite possibly wished to situate an admirable and loveable black figure in the imaginations of the white Victorian children who comprised her readership.'

    Unsurprisingly there were many who took issue with any inclusion of this 'racist slur toy'. And since the publication of the Black Dossier Moore has continued to be asked questions about it – something that has contributed to his desire to never to do another interview.
     
    , @MEH 0910

    The first page has Tom Strong in bed with a black woman.
     
    That's Tom Strong's wife.

    Tom Strong #1 - "How Tom Strong Got Started"
  183. @bomag
    Scott Walker took on the public unions in Wisconsin to pretty good effect. Not too many are following his lead.

    It's the usual emotional debate: suggest cutting ed money, and the professional grievers spring into action, complete with tear stained children rotting in the streets.
  184. @Clive Beaconsfield
    Caplan appears to have teamed up with the popular webcomic SMBC for this gem. Not that surprising, actually, if you’ve read it.

    Right, I knew I recognized the art style, but couldn’t place it.

  185. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158
    They are all having a wonderful time right now; in the driver’s seat, fully in control, pedal to the metal, whizzing along at 100mph and still accelerating, running over their racial enemies like ducklings caught in the road. There are only a handful of them who realize what their joy ride is going to lead to in the future after their policies have destroyed the former US. Ilhan Omar and her ilk are just the first bump in the road. Sooner or later they will be coming up on a curve at 200mph, gently apply the brakes, and the pedal will go to the floor.
    They’ll blame us for the crash.

    Jewish historians of the future will record that the Americans destroyed their own country, then blamed the Jews.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    At the rate they’re going Jews will be as unlettered as whites within a generation. May well not be any histories at all to speak of for a stretch.
  186. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ragno
    That clinches it.

    Having worn the tread off the tires of 'fascist', 'bigot', 'Nazi', 'neo-Nazi' and 'white supremacist', the millenial Bolsheviks determined to watch the Western world burn - and the cultural-Marxist puppeteers who yank their strings - are now lashing themselves to the wheel of "WHITE NATIONALIST".

    Of course, this unprecedented wave of racism disguised as "anti-racism" - ongoing for a decade now, but raging like an out-of-control forest fire for the past 3/4 years - demonstrates only that the scuttlefish who peered up at normal folks from the dungeons of their own neuroses no longer fear the objects of their hatred. Perhaps watching and reading our vaunted chattering classes in the media blithely shouting fire! in crowded places, with zero consequences following, has emboldened them.

    Antifa are not only legal but legally untouchable; bomb-tossing elected radicals are swooned over by our nation's intellectual gatekeepers. In the meantime, patriots and citizens loyal to our Constitution, who have lived their lives playing by the rules, now exist with bullseyes drawn on their backs, and wait for the next outrage driving them further into the hinterlands.

    "White nationalism" isn't just a slur; it's in all likelihood, the only road back to civilization. You're better off by far on a Bad Guy list than to have your name erased altogether.

    Yes, indeed. If whites were really as violent as these people claim they wouldn’t dare say so in public.

  187. @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. The first page has Tom Strong in bed with a black woman. +2 virtue-signal points. Buuuuuuut... it also has a "gorilla" butler serving them. - ∞ points!!! Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!

    Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!

    For Tom Strong, Alan Moore is the writer, the penciller is Chris Sprouse.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    Actually, Art Adams is the penciller for the first half of Swastika Girls!, and Chris Sprouse is penciller for the second half.
  188. @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. The first page has Tom Strong in bed with a black woman. +2 virtue-signal points. Buuuuuuut... it also has a "gorilla" butler serving them. - ∞ points!!! Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!

    The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier (3/3)

    “The only thing that I’d previously heard concerning this person was Kevin’s brief account of someone he’d apparently encountered at an American signing for The Black Dossier, an African-American woman (if that is still an acceptable U.S. term) who had seemed upset by our inclusion of the Golliwog/Galley-Wag. In Kevin’s account as I remember it he’d done his best to explain but was left feeling that he may have done an inadequate job, and that the woman hadn’t seemed to be interested in his account of Florence Upton’s original creation, or in the context within which we’d come to our decision. […] Possibly because I’m typing this on Christmas Eve I feel inclined, despite the long hiatus between this person first airing her grievance and us hearing anything further from her, to take her stance at face value. I can readily imagine how justifiably angry the depiction of non-white characters in contemporary comics, or the relatively tiny number of artists or writers of colour compared to the number of non-white comic readers, could make anyone, irrespective of their colour or ethnicity. I simply feel – and this is only my personal opinion and in no way privileged over her own – that in this instance that anger is misdirected. As I understand it from the questions I’ve been asked, the major bone of contention seems to be the question of whether white creators can presume to present possibly controversial material relating to black characters. I’ve addressed this more comprehensively above, but would only add that if I had adopted this attitude back in 1999/2000, there is every likelihood that the United States, surely embarrassingly, would be nearly a decade-and-a-half into the 21st century and still without any positive examples of mixed-race marriages producing mixed-race offspring anywhere in its media. Certainly not in its comic books. (I’m referring to Tom Strong here…) – Alan Moore

    The Black Dossier – Return of the ‘Golliwogg’

    In 2007, Moore and Kevin O’Neill, his ‘south London Irish racist collaborator’ (Moore’s words), published The Black Dossier, the third volume in their comic book series ‘The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen’. Spanning an alternative 20th Century the League are a group of government agents based on characters from Victorian genre fiction. Alumni include Mina Harker, the Invisible Man and Doctor Jekyll and in The Black Dossier the league square up to a very unreconstructed spy called ‘Jimmy Bond’. But they’re aided by an even more controversial figure.

    Galley-Wag is a new version of the Golliwogg character from Florence Upton’s enormously popular picture book series from the beginning of the 20th Century. But, as Moore is at pains to point out, this is not the same thing as the later ‘Golliwog’ that people born before the 1990s will remember, ‘Here we had a character which in its day was positive, bold, innovative, and the creation of a typically overlooked woman creator who had quite possibly wished to situate an admirable and loveable black figure in the imaginations of the white Victorian children who comprised her readership.’

    Unsurprisingly there were many who took issue with any inclusion of this ‘racist slur toy’. And since the publication of the Black Dossier Moore has continued to be asked questions about it – something that has contributed to his desire to never to do another interview.

  189. @Anonymous
    Jewish historians of the future will record that the Americans destroyed their own country, then blamed the Jews.

    At the rate they’re going Jews will be as unlettered as whites within a generation. May well not be any histories at all to speak of for a stretch.

  190. @MEH 0910

    Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!
     
    For Tom Strong, Alan Moore is the writer, the penciller is Chris Sprouse.

    Actually, Art Adams is the penciller for the first half of Swastika Girls!, and Chris Sprouse is penciller for the second half.

  191. @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. The first page has Tom Strong in bed with a black woman. +2 virtue-signal points. Buuuuuuut... it also has a "gorilla" butler serving them. - ∞ points!!! Alan Moore, racist cartoonist!!!

    The first page has Tom Strong in bed with a black woman.

    That’s Tom Strong’s wife.

    Tom Strong #1 – “How Tom Strong Got Started”

  192. @Laugh Track
    I know zilch about whether Bryan or Zach is the cartoonist here, but whoever is the artist has captured that wide-eyed AOC look, like everyone is just amazed and hopeful that everything will just work out. "Open Borders"? No problem, if we just stay amazed and hopeful.

    As other commenters have noted, Zach is the artist. He has a very successful webcomic called Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. It has been running almost daily for many years. He is clearly very talented and capable.

    But from the way he depicts himself or standins for himself in his comics, it’s clear he either has a conscious desire for self abasement, or a self esteem problem. Basically when you see a red-headed man in the comic, he is going to be the butt of the joke.

  193. The Science and ethics of immigration:

    From the anti-White perspective, no one should have to live in a brown country EXCEPT White people

    Access to White people is NOT a human right.

    One of the evil ironies, and hypocrisies, of our current politicians and the (diversity™ loving) minorities they cater to for power:

    If those elites EVER tried to do to those ‘minorities’ back in their home nations what they are doing to Whites HERE, those same ‘minorities’ would attack them with murderous rage.

    There would be war and vendetta.

    What does that imply about BOTH our leaders AND the groups they ‘import’.

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