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Israel Pays Rwandan Dictator to Take African Immigrants Off Its Hands

From the Jewish Daily Forward:

Rwanda Eyes Deal With Israel To Accept Refugees in Exchange for Cash and Contracts; East African Land Would Take Hundreds From Eritrea and Darfur

By JTA [Jewish Telegraph Agency]
Published April 03, 2015.

Israel and Rwanda are discussing a deal in which the East African nation would take in illegal migrants from the Jewish state in exchange for favorable contracts.

Under the proposed agreement, which has come under scrutiny by human rights organizations, Israel would send hundreds of Eritrean and Sudanese nationals, many of them asylum-seekers, to Rwanda in return for favorable deals that include millions of dollars in grants, The East African reported Friday.

Paul Kagame

The information is based on statements made by Rwandan President Paul Kagame during a press conference in Kigali on Thursday, the paper reported.

Kagame, “The Global Elite’s Favorite Strongman,” is a scary guy.

In addition to Rwanda, Israel is rumored to have reached a similar arrangement with Uganda, though neither Kampala nor Jerusalem confirmed this. …

Israel’s Interior Ministry confirmed this week in a statement that it will “expel immigrants from the detention centers” and encourage migrants “to leave Israel in a safe and respectable way” for specific African countries that would grant them legal immigration rights.

Approximately 50,000 Africans who entered Israel through Egypt live in Israel, which is bound by international treaties to let them stay while they have United Nations refugee status. However, they can be relocated to a third country willing to accept them. …

Many asylum-seekers are held in southern Israel’s Holot detention facility. In recent years, a new barrier along the Egypt-Israel border has stopped additional newcomers from arriving.

Funny how fences can’t possibly work in America or Europe, but seem to work fine in Israel.

From YNetNews of Israel:

Israel’s Interior Minister Gilad Erdan confirmed the report Friday during an interview, offering some initial details: “We give them a package that includes a flight and $3,500 – no small sum in these countries. They will be given visas and will be allowed to work,” he said.

A few shekels go a long way in Rwanda.

By the way, the United States could easily pay Cuba to take refugees off our hands. Why subsidize Somalis to live in expensive, cold Minneapolis when the average government worker in warm Cuba gets by on $20 per month? Why pay Chechens like the Tsarnaevs to sit around in gloomy, depressingly scholarly Cambridge, MA, when they could be having a blast in Havana for $20 per month?

Here’s a question I’ve been looking for an answer to without much success: Considering that American politicians visit Israel all the time, has any American politician ever taken a fact-finding junket to Israel to see how their successful border fences and deportation systems work?

If, say Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) announced he wanted to visit Israel to see how a serious country takes care of immigration security, what would happen?

 
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  1. Sessions should do it. Netanyahu might give him the cook’s tour.

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  2. World’s gettin’ pretty crowded, ain’t it?

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    • Replies: @george
    The world is not getting crowded, the west keeps setting third world nations on fire causing a stampede into the west.
  3. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    As Steve wrote previously, if you want an example of how intelligent people run a government, look to Israel.

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  4. But this racket still requires “refugees” to cover great distances. There is an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy and guarantee free national defense courtesy of the U.S. armed forces for the following 50 years.

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    • Replies: @officious intermeddler
    That was the plot of The Mouse that Roared, a book and movie from the late 1950's/early 1960's. They're dated now but still have their funny moments.
    , @Truth
    "But this racket still requires “refugees” to cover great distances. There is an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy and guarantee free national defense courtesy of the U.S. armed forces for the following 50 years."

    Wow, you honestly and truly don't think much of your ancestral homeland, do you?
    , @Jonathan Silber
    ...an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy...

    That sounds exactly like the premise of a movie I remember from the fifties, The Mouse That Roared.

    It starred Peter Sellers and, according to Wikipedia, was based on a novel of the same title by an Irish-American writer named Leonard Wibberley.

  5. Never heard of that guy Kagame before. It will be interesting to come back in a few years and see how much real economic progress has been made. If not much, then I have a suggestion. How about exporting smart people to help run the country. Maybe there would be Western volunteers? Missionaries but without the Bibles. Colonials by another name?

    I’m serious about this. If we really want to help places like Haiti (for cample) with little or no human capital we ought to supply the human capital. That may be the only aid that works.

    The other Obama, Jean-Pierre Bekolo Obama, the Camaroonian film-maker, agrees: “Let’s face it: we’re in over our heads. We need the white folks to come back.” http://goo.gl/6rwQGe

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The old, stale version of that was called colonialism. The new hotness is charter cities.
    , @MarkinLA
    You mean whites build the place up, get accused of racism, are attacked by "indigenous freedom fighters", are murdered and forced to leave the country, and the whole place collapses back to the bush.

    Been there done that.
    , @Vendetta
    Don't talk shit about Kagame, he's been working miracles in that country. He's the closest Africa's ever had to a Lee Kuan Yew.

    He's fallen out of favor with progressives who want to turn the genocide narrative inside out and pretend the Hutus are the real victims of the slaughter they perpetrated, and because gets Kagame gets on well with the US, UK, and Israel.

    Do not fall onto the progressive hate wagon. Paul Kagame is the most effective leader of any African nation today.
  6. I guess Israel’s free pipeline of African refugees to Sweden, due to arrogant Swedish intransigence, got shut down and now Israel has to pay $3500 per African refugee to offload them back to Africa. Maybe soon there will be a movement in Congress that would allow America can step in and correct this injustice towards Israel by PAYING Israel $35,000 per refugee?

    http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=5750629

    The Israeli Interior Ministry said the migrants left for Sweden as part of a government incentive scheme and were granted US$3,500 each upon departure and promised not to return.

    However, Oded Feller, an attorney dealing with residence and migration issues, claimed: “Asylum seekers who were sent to Sweden did not leave as part of the Ministry’s voluntary departure process, but as part of the efforts of the UNHCR to resettle people who qualify as refugees.”

    Feller heads the division dealing with residence status and migration in the Association for Civil Rights in Israel. “It’s not clear what the Interior Ministry take pride in,” he told Haaretz. “Sweden only resettles people with refugee status who are not afforded adequate protection in countries they find themselves in.”

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  7. @Luke Lea
    Never heard of that guy Kagame before. It will be interesting to come back in a few years and see how much real economic progress has been made. If not much, then I have a suggestion. How about exporting smart people to help run the country. Maybe there would be Western volunteers? Missionaries but without the Bibles. Colonials by another name?

    I'm serious about this. If we really want to help places like Haiti (for cample) with little or no human capital we ought to supply the human capital. That may be the only aid that works.

    The other Obama, Jean-Pierre Bekolo Obama, the Camaroonian film-maker, agrees: "Let’s face it: we’re in over our heads. We need the white folks to come back." http://goo.gl/6rwQGe

    The old, stale version of that was called colonialism. The new hotness is charter cities.

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    • Replies: @BurplesonAFB
    I prefer this writeup

    http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2009/08/from-cromer-to-romer-and-back-again.html
  8. Sounds like Israel is implementing a modified version of the Sailer “Muslim buyout” plan

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  9. Australia was doing this before it was cool. Until the left wing party (labour) suspended it, one of the major reason they lost their election to the current reigning right wing party (coalition).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution

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    anyone who says israel should be the model for the united states is an idiot/traitor.

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  11. Only Israel can pull it off, Steve. They can get away with anything.
    Any western country doing the same would be denounced as racist and face UN sanctions. In the US, it’s unthinkable because unfettered immigration is national bipartisan policy.
    As for Rwanda, they’re making a bad deal. Eritreans aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed in a notoriously IQ challenged continent.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    australia does the same thing
    , @International Jew

    Only Israel can pull it off, Steve. They can get away with anything.
    Any western country doing the same would be denounced as racist
     
    Not really, in the world's imagination Israel exists in an intermediate category. Go down a notch to countries like Egypt and adherance to international law is not expected at all. African "refugees" in Israel arrived via Egypt; technically it was Egypt's responsibility to take them in but in practice Egypt drove them to the Israeli border with not infrequent resort to gunfire.

    Japan's in Israel's category; if the Japanese ever faced this problem (admittedly unlikely!) they could get away with a Rwandan deal.
  12. The chief export of Africa is turning out to be Black Africans, and, if the price is right, the chief import, too.

    It’s almost as if the Black race is, for the rest of the world, a kind of hot potato.

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    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "The chief export of Africa is turning out to be Black Africans"

    Always has been, since almost the beginning of time. I can remember a map in my old h.s. world history book showing the sources of revenue for various African kingdoms, from roughly AD 300-1800. For every last damn one of them slaves were a major source of income.
    , @Blobby5
    A hot cassava?
  13. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @BB753
    Only Israel can pull it off, Steve. They can get away with anything.
    Any western country doing the same would be denounced as racist and face UN sanctions. In the US, it's unthinkable because unfettered immigration is national bipartisan policy.
    As for Rwanda, they're making a bad deal. Eritreans aren't the sharpest tools in the shed in a notoriously IQ challenged continent.

    australia does the same thing

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Australia doesn't even let illegals reach Australia, if it can help it. http://www.news.com.au/world/australias-boat-towback-policy-inhumane-indonesia/story-fndir2ev-1226821534649
    , @BB753
    Can you provide a link? It seems that Australia until 2007 was relocating "asylum " seekers in PNG detention centres while looking into their cases. Not paying third countries to keep them as settlers, so to speak.
  14. I’ll See You In My DREAM Act; or, The Cuba on Twenty Dollars a Month Right Back at You Immigration Reform Act of 2015.

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  15. This idea will inspire exodi of ethnies — not just of Africans from Israel to Rwanda, but also of Somalis from Minnesota to Cuba. It will inspire works of art too, like the expulsion of Acadians from Nova Scotia to Louisiana inspired Longfellow’s poem
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangeline ,
    this time ethnically transformed, and rendered in a rock or rap rendition.

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  16. If, say Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) announced he wanted to visit Israel to see how a serious country takes care of immigration security, what would happen?

    That’ll have them shaking in their boots. I can hear the panicked cabinet meetings already. “The Sailerites are sending over Jeff Sessions and he’s going to make support for us contingent on our sharing our wall-making technology with them. They’ve really got us over a barrel now.”

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    • Replies: @Vendetta
    Nice Hutu propaganda you're spreading. You must think the Khmer Rouge were the real victims in Cambodia, too.

    If that's just an article you pulled off a Google search because you don't know who Paul Kagame is, drop that garbage like it's toxic.

    Paul Kagame:
    - Defeated the genocidal Hutu regime
    - Kept the peace ever since
    - Kept those freaks out of the country ever since then
    - Had the decency not to do right back unto the Hutu what they did to the Tutsi
    - Declared an end to racial identity politics in Rwanda
    - Continues to work an economic miracle in Rwanda
    - Has actually used the humanitarian aid his country receieves for productive ends
    - Has stamped out corruption to a vast extent in Rwanda
    - Has overseen great strides forward in Rwandan living conditions and quality of life

    Etc, etc.

    So if that article was your first introduction to him, just know that you're defaming one of the only great and effective leaders Africa has produced in the last half century, the closest they've got to a Lee Kuan Yew.

    And if you are by some chance a Hutu nationalist or just a Chomsky-on-Cambodia-level denier of reality determined to cast the murderers as the victims, then to Hell with you.
  18. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    World's gettin' pretty crowded, ain't it?

    The world is not getting crowded, the west keeps setting third world nations on fire causing a stampede into the west.

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    The politics of Monopoly board.
    ‘Get out of jail free’ cards and ‘if you pass go collect 3500 dollars’.

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  20. @Jonathan Silber
    The chief export of Africa is turning out to be Black Africans, and, if the price is right, the chief import, too.

    It's almost as if the Black race is, for the rest of the world, a kind of hot potato.

    “The chief export of Africa is turning out to be Black Africans”

    Always has been, since almost the beginning of time. I can remember a map in my old h.s. world history book showing the sources of revenue for various African kingdoms, from roughly AD 300-1800. For every last damn one of them slaves were a major source of income.

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  21. Pipe dreams, Steve. Nobody here has the balls to do what they do. So here’s an alternative plan: invite Israel to conquer America so that they can implement their policies here. As an added bonus, the quality of our Jewish overlords would improve markedly.

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  22. Kagame is one of the only African leaders worth a damn and also happens to be a Tutsi, whom the Eritreans are very distantly related. Maybe there’s a connection?

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    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    There you go!
    Kagame is the leader of the Tutsi reconquista of Rwanda. The Tutsi used to be the ruling class and ethnicity in the central african Great Lakes region. They were basically cattle herders who lorded over the Hutu peasants. I'm not sure if what I read is mere propaganda but I've read that like a lot of cattle herders, they were quite aware of race and lineage and that they were definitely "racists" against the hutu (though it was possible for a worthy hutu to graduate into tutsidom). I have a half Tutsi acquaintance who wouldn't be surprised by that assessment, as he often describes his fellow Tutsis as being rather arrogant and cold hearted people. He's much more of a "nice" person and he attributes it to his non-Tutsi half.

    The Tutsi managed to always remain in power in neighboring Burundi, but in Rwanda they were chased out during a bloody revolution during the early 1960s. People of Kagame's parents' generation were kicked out to live in neighboring countries and they plotted their reconquest for years. In 1994. almost all of the Tutsis who had remained in Rwanda were exterminated within a mere 3 months. Some commentators suggest that Kagame didn't really mind the genocide, as it gave him the perfect pretext to invade Rwanda, defeat the hutu regime, and kill a few hundred of thousands within Rwanda itself in revenge. The hutu murderers escaped to neighboring Congo and that led to the ongoing eastern Congo war, that's been going on for like 20 years now and that has killed a few more millions.

    Kagame's victory in Rwanda was total. He restored the Tutsi order in Rwanda and you now have Rwanda, Burundi and Uganda that are ruled by Tutsis and their relatives. It's now taboo to explicitly speak of Tutsis and Hutus in Rwanda but it's clear that the Tutsi english speaking diaspora has taken over the country and that they wouldn't mind more people like them coming in to help achieve demographic dominance. I know real life Tutsis and *they know* that they're related to the Erythreans, Somalians and Ethiopians. They don't believe the dumb marxist historians who tell them that it's the belgian who "invented" the Tutsis and the Hutu. Some Tutsis go further and believe that they're closely related to other herders like the Fulani, which might be true. I suspect that during the wet sahara phase 7000 years ago or so, all those herders may have been one people that was roaming Africa from west to east following their cattle.
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    It could be that a country like Egypt is trying to undermine the Israeli state by helping those ‘refugees’ transit through their territory and into Israel. After all, who’s providing the food, water, transportation to those coming from some of those places? They can’t just walk the distance sight unseen through other countries to get to Israel. Khaddafi used to help keep some of these migrants from going over to Europe but he’s gone now thanks to Obama-Clinton. Giving them $3500 seems to be an awful lot; it might even encourage some to come over just to collect. Perhaps fear might be a better motivator to keep out unwanted migrants once the word gets out back home. Few people, I imagine, try to infiltrate N Korea because it might be an unpleasant experience; no $3500 prize to those who make it over the finish line.
    The people running this country haven’t wanted to stem the tide or build any fences. It’s all been delay through endless debate and lying to the public. It doesn’t matter what most US citizens want, it’s a matter of manufacturing consent and shutting down the others.

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    • Replies: @Vendetta
    Don't forget the prices the smugglers charge to actually ship the Africans to Europe in the first place...might not actually work out to be such a profitable trip for the migrants themselves.
  24. @Twinkie
    But this racket still requires "refugees" to cover great distances. There is an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy and guarantee free national defense courtesy of the U.S. armed forces for the following 50 years.

    That was the plot of The Mouse that Roared, a book and movie from the late 1950′s/early 1960′s. They’re dated now but still have their funny moments.

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    • Replies: @Twinkie

    That was the plot of The Mouse that Roared, a book and movie from the late 1950′s/early 1960′s. They’re dated now but still have their funny moments.
     
    I just looked up the trailer on YouTube. Looks very good. I will have to find it.

    As with any satire, it's based on reality, eh?
  25. Kagame, “The Global Elite’s Favorite Strongman,” is a scary guy.

    In ethnically mixed countries where the different ethnic groups hate and want to kill each other, it’s probably best if the guy in charge is scary. Saddam Hussein and the Ottoman emperors did a much better job of preventing genocidal civil wars than any democratic government possibly could.

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    • Replies: @Bill

    In ethnically mixed countries where the different ethnic groups hate and want to kill each other, it’s probably best if the guy in charge is scary. Saddam Hussein and the Ottoman emperors did a much better job of preventing genocidal civil wars than any democratic government possibly could.
     
    +1. Democracy, diversity, peace: pick 2.
  26. Pretty smart move on the Israeli’s part. They get rid of current undesirable migrants and probably
    reduce future flows substantially.

    It’s easy to get mad at them but I bet you there are powerful people right now citing this as a precedent. Wouldn’t be surprised if say Australia does something like this in the near future.

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    • Replies: @iSteveFan

    Pretty smart move on the Israeli’s part. They get rid of current undesirable migrants and probably
    reduce future flows substantially.

    It’s easy to get mad at them but...
     
    Ed, I think the reason Steve brings up stories like this is not to criticize the Israelis, but rather to point out the irony that if the USA did the same, many of the most vocal and prominent critics of such policy would be American Jews.

    Steve is not suggesting that we get mad at the Israelis, but rather at their co-ethnics in the USA who would work day and night to prevent the USA from doing the same.
  27. @Jonathan Silber
    The chief export of Africa is turning out to be Black Africans, and, if the price is right, the chief import, too.

    It's almost as if the Black race is, for the rest of the world, a kind of hot potato.

    A hot cassava?

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  28. Wrong George
    Rwanda genocide 800000 Tutsi killed by far more numerous Hutu ,Rwanda population
    90% Hutu 10% Tutsi,Hutu always resented that Tutsi were and are cleverer so RUN the country
    properly. Kagame is a TUTSI was a refugee in Uganda until he became involved in liberating
    Rwanda ,did so and now runs a very successful central african nation. I suggest George reads what
    Kenneth Richberg [ black US journalist in central africa covering the GENOCIDE wrote about it especially that he said he thanked God that his ancestors survived the slave ship journey to the US]

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    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    Hutu always resented that Tutsi were and are cleverer so RUN the country
    properl
    ------
    Careful. In Burundi the Tutsi ruling class never lost power and they've been able to keep it by exterminating a few hundreds of thousands of hutus once in a while. Burundi is a pretty lame country even by African standards. The Tutsi ruling class there is a military elite, not much of a cognitive one. In Nigeria you have something similar with the muslim northerners feeling naturally superior to the southerners who are natural slaves to them, even though the southerners (Yoruba, Igbo, etc) are way brighther then the northerners. It's jusy that the southerners appear to be extremely incopetent, militarily, which is why Nigeria is back under official northern control.

    A side of me admires Kagame for his Lee Kwan Yew-esque ambitions and style. It's possible that he will manage to do something with Rwanda. I have heard about his cleaning up of the coutry both in terms of corruption and actual appearance of the cities. He conducts diplomatic efforts and he's trying to "market" Rwanda abroad. He's even handing out scholarships for other 3rd world students to come and study in Rwanda! Another side of me wonders about his ultimate ambitions though. Tutsi racial supremacy all over central africa ? Allying himself with Fulanis, north-Sudanese and other Horners against the other negroid peoples of Africa ? strengthening the bond that the Tutsis feel with the jews and being the conduit for israeli/jewish domination in the heart of Africa ? i wonder ...
  29. It would have been a better story if it had been Madagascar that the asylum-shoppers were being sent to.

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  30. Funny how fences can’t possibly work in America or Europe, but seem to work fine in Israel.

    The Spanish exclave in North Africa is fenced in, for what I know.
    But else, where would you put the fences? On every beach there is at the Mediterranean?

    Anyway, there is an idea making the rounds in Europe at the moment which includes building huge refugee camps in North Africa, where the refugees would stay while their asylum requests would be considered.
    Also not very realistic, I suppose, but by far not as stupid an idea as fences.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Train the dolphins to overturn the boats and drag the "refugees" down. I bet they would do it for a fish.

    It is stupid to believe that then third world will ever control its population on its own.
  31. @BB753
    Only Israel can pull it off, Steve. They can get away with anything.
    Any western country doing the same would be denounced as racist and face UN sanctions. In the US, it's unthinkable because unfettered immigration is national bipartisan policy.
    As for Rwanda, they're making a bad deal. Eritreans aren't the sharpest tools in the shed in a notoriously IQ challenged continent.

    Only Israel can pull it off, Steve. They can get away with anything.
    Any western country doing the same would be denounced as racist

    Not really, in the world’s imagination Israel exists in an intermediate category. Go down a notch to countries like Egypt and adherance to international law is not expected at all. African “refugees” in Israel arrived via Egypt; technically it was Egypt’s responsibility to take them in but in practice Egypt drove them to the Israeli border with not infrequent resort to gunfire.

    Japan’s in Israel’s category; if the Japanese ever faced this problem (admittedly unlikely!) they could get away with a Rwandan deal.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver
    But Egypt doesn't attempt to pass itself of as western or as a liberal democracy. Israel's boosters are forever playing up Israel's western and liberal features. So don't cry foul when you're held to the same standards as western liberal democracies.
  32. @Luke Lea
    Never heard of that guy Kagame before. It will be interesting to come back in a few years and see how much real economic progress has been made. If not much, then I have a suggestion. How about exporting smart people to help run the country. Maybe there would be Western volunteers? Missionaries but without the Bibles. Colonials by another name?

    I'm serious about this. If we really want to help places like Haiti (for cample) with little or no human capital we ought to supply the human capital. That may be the only aid that works.

    The other Obama, Jean-Pierre Bekolo Obama, the Camaroonian film-maker, agrees: "Let’s face it: we’re in over our heads. We need the white folks to come back." http://goo.gl/6rwQGe

    You mean whites build the place up, get accused of racism, are attacked by “indigenous freedom fighters”, are murdered and forced to leave the country, and the whole place collapses back to the bush.

    Been there done that.

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  33. “Here’s a question I’ve been looking for an answer to without much success: Considering that American politicians visit Israel all the time, has any American politician ever taken a fact-finding junket to Israel to see how their successful border fences and deportation systems work?”

    Steve, it’s all about who controls the mainstream media.

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  34. I spent some time in Tel Aviv over the summer. The African immigrant population is really getting out of hand. Many parts of Tel Aviv resemble African ghettos, densely packed with masses of African immigrants.

    The central bus station in Tel Aviv was always filled with African and, curiously, a sizable number of Asian (seemingly southeast Asian) immigrants.

    Compared to Americans, Israelis are much more overtly racist towards Africans. I recall an incident that occurred while I was on a bus in Tel Aviv. At the bus stop (in some African enclave), a group of young African men tried to muscle their way onto the bus through the rear doors without paying the fare. Some Israelis aboard the bus yelled racial slurs at them and began pushing them off the bus. It is unthinkable that Americans would react in a similar manner.

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    • Replies: @LKM
    The southeast Asians may well be legit temporary foreign workers. From what I understand, for a long time, Israeli companies were happy to employ Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank within Israel doing low-level, manual labour type things like farm work. After the Second Intifada, Israelis were understandably nervous about the practice, so they started bringing in Philipinos and Thais to do the same jobs.
  35. In my world illegals are shipped to either Somalia or Zaire.

    If the home country wants them, they can go get them.

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  36. @Luke Lea
    Never heard of that guy Kagame before. It will be interesting to come back in a few years and see how much real economic progress has been made. If not much, then I have a suggestion. How about exporting smart people to help run the country. Maybe there would be Western volunteers? Missionaries but without the Bibles. Colonials by another name?

    I'm serious about this. If we really want to help places like Haiti (for cample) with little or no human capital we ought to supply the human capital. That may be the only aid that works.

    The other Obama, Jean-Pierre Bekolo Obama, the Camaroonian film-maker, agrees: "Let’s face it: we’re in over our heads. We need the white folks to come back." http://goo.gl/6rwQGe

    Don’t talk shit about Kagame, he’s been working miracles in that country. He’s the closest Africa’s ever had to a Lee Kuan Yew.

    He’s fallen out of favor with progressives who want to turn the genocide narrative inside out and pretend the Hutus are the real victims of the slaughter they perpetrated, and because gets Kagame gets on well with the US, UK, and Israel.

    Do not fall onto the progressive hate wagon. Paul Kagame is the most effective leader of any African nation today.

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  37. @george
    Kagame: Murderer of Millions in Congo and Rwanda

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/kagame-murderer-millions-congo-and-rwanda

    Nice Hutu propaganda you’re spreading. You must think the Khmer Rouge were the real victims in Cambodia, too.

    If that’s just an article you pulled off a Google search because you don’t know who Paul Kagame is, drop that garbage like it’s toxic.

    Paul Kagame:
    - Defeated the genocidal Hutu regime
    - Kept the peace ever since
    - Kept those freaks out of the country ever since then
    - Had the decency not to do right back unto the Hutu what they did to the Tutsi
    - Declared an end to racial identity politics in Rwanda
    - Continues to work an economic miracle in Rwanda
    - Has actually used the humanitarian aid his country receieves for productive ends
    - Has stamped out corruption to a vast extent in Rwanda
    - Has overseen great strides forward in Rwandan living conditions and quality of life

    Etc, etc.

    So if that article was your first introduction to him, just know that you’re defaming one of the only great and effective leaders Africa has produced in the last half century, the closest they’ve got to a Lee Kuan Yew.

    And if you are by some chance a Hutu nationalist or just a Chomsky-on-Cambodia-level denier of reality determined to cast the murderers as the victims, then to Hell with you.

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    All those accomplishments and his most treasured achievement is still topping the Hip Hop Charts with The Humpty Dance.
  38. @Anonymous
    australia does the same thing

    Australia doesn’t even let illegals reach Australia, if it can help it. http://www.news.com.au/world/australias-boat-towback-policy-inhumane-indonesia/story-fndir2ev-1226821534649

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    What good does it do to them when they allow their country to be swamped by legal immigrants?
  39. @Anonymous
    australia does the same thing

    Can you provide a link? It seems that Australia until 2007 was relocating “asylum ” seekers in PNG detention centres while looking into their cases. Not paying third countries to keep them as settlers, so to speak.

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  40. Kagame was the one who stopped the Rwandan genocide by military force, his RPF seems the only competent fighting force in Africa, itself a major achievement given the standards of the African military.

    But even Israel faces opposition to borders, walls, and deporting refugees. The Tel Aviv “bubble” people, mostly wealthy Ashkenazi, don’t like it and find it awful. Indeed Berlin has about 20,000 or so mostly Ashkenazi Israelis sitting out conscription. Berlin! Not much ethno-centrism even in Israel among Ashkenazi sitting in Tel Aviv (which is almost never rocketed nor subject to jihad). Bibi’s votes came from working class Mizrahi Jews and Askhenazi (mostly Russians) living in the North and South subject to rocket attacks from Lebanon and Hamasistan in Gaza.

    Funny how an actual war with non-Whites is needed to generate White ethnocentrism. Particularly among higher IQ Whites, it seems the desire for a universal utopian cross-racial society is just too strong, save non-Whites actively trying to kill you personally. Europeans will object of course, as will the Israeli Left.

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    Orwell was right. War is peace. Freedom is bondage. Experience is prejudice. Ignorance is tolerance.
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    Nice Hutu propaganda you’re spreading.

    There’s no Hutu propaganda anywhere. Anyone who doesn’t buy the official story gets called a troll by the internet guardians. 15% of the population, the Tutsis, dominate the other 85%. That’s a dictatorship held in place by the gun.

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  42. @Ed
    Pretty smart move on the Israeli's part. They get rid of current undesirable migrants and probably
    reduce future flows substantially.

    It's easy to get mad at them but I bet you there are powerful people right now citing this as a precedent. Wouldn't be surprised if say Australia does something like this in the near future.

    Pretty smart move on the Israeli’s part. They get rid of current undesirable migrants and probably
    reduce future flows substantially.

    It’s easy to get mad at them but…

    Ed, I think the reason Steve brings up stories like this is not to criticize the Israelis, but rather to point out the irony that if the USA did the same, many of the most vocal and prominent critics of such policy would be American Jews.

    Steve is not suggesting that we get mad at the Israelis, but rather at their co-ethnics in the USA who would work day and night to prevent the USA from doing the same.

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  43. @Dave Pinsen
    Australia doesn't even let illegals reach Australia, if it can help it. http://www.news.com.au/world/australias-boat-towback-policy-inhumane-indonesia/story-fndir2ev-1226821534649

    What good does it do to them when they allow their country to be swamped by legal immigrants?

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  44. @Whiskey
    Kagame was the one who stopped the Rwandan genocide by military force, his RPF seems the only competent fighting force in Africa, itself a major achievement given the standards of the African military.

    But even Israel faces opposition to borders, walls, and deporting refugees. The Tel Aviv "bubble" people, mostly wealthy Ashkenazi, don't like it and find it awful. Indeed Berlin has about 20,000 or so mostly Ashkenazi Israelis sitting out conscription. Berlin! Not much ethno-centrism even in Israel among Ashkenazi sitting in Tel Aviv (which is almost never rocketed nor subject to jihad). Bibi's votes came from working class Mizrahi Jews and Askhenazi (mostly Russians) living in the North and South subject to rocket attacks from Lebanon and Hamasistan in Gaza.

    Funny how an actual war with non-Whites is needed to generate White ethnocentrism. Particularly among higher IQ Whites, it seems the desire for a universal utopian cross-racial society is just too strong, save non-Whites actively trying to kill you personally. Europeans will object of course, as will the Israeli Left.

    Orwell was right. War is peace. Freedom is bondage. Experience is prejudice. Ignorance is tolerance.

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  45. @anonymous
    It could be that a country like Egypt is trying to undermine the Israeli state by helping those 'refugees' transit through their territory and into Israel. After all, who's providing the food, water, transportation to those coming from some of those places? They can't just walk the distance sight unseen through other countries to get to Israel. Khaddafi used to help keep some of these migrants from going over to Europe but he's gone now thanks to Obama-Clinton. Giving them $3500 seems to be an awful lot; it might even encourage some to come over just to collect. Perhaps fear might be a better motivator to keep out unwanted migrants once the word gets out back home. Few people, I imagine, try to infiltrate N Korea because it might be an unpleasant experience; no $3500 prize to those who make it over the finish line.
    The people running this country haven't wanted to stem the tide or build any fences. It's all been delay through endless debate and lying to the public. It doesn't matter what most US citizens want, it's a matter of manufacturing consent and shutting down the others.

    Don’t forget the prices the smugglers charge to actually ship the Africans to Europe in the first place…might not actually work out to be such a profitable trip for the migrants themselves.

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  46. @officious intermeddler

    Kagame, “The Global Elite’s Favorite Strongman,” is a scary guy.
     
    In ethnically mixed countries where the different ethnic groups hate and want to kill each other, it's probably best if the guy in charge is scary. Saddam Hussein and the Ottoman emperors did a much better job of preventing genocidal civil wars than any democratic government possibly could.

    In ethnically mixed countries where the different ethnic groups hate and want to kill each other, it’s probably best if the guy in charge is scary. Saddam Hussein and the Ottoman emperors did a much better job of preventing genocidal civil wars than any democratic government possibly could.

    +1. Democracy, diversity, peace: pick 2.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    You're lucky to get one out of that group.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Democracy, diversity, peace: pick 2.

    Why do people keep mangling this? You're at least the third commenter I've seen who trips over it.

    I get the sense a lot of the commentariat here are trying to avoid the realization that the American experiment is time-limited and drawing to a close. You don't get two of three; you get one of three.

    Sailer's formulation is more accurate: Diversity, Liberty or Equality; choose one.
  47. @bossel

    Funny how fences can’t possibly work in America or Europe, but seem to work fine in Israel.
     
    The Spanish exclave in North Africa is fenced in, for what I know.
    But else, where would you put the fences? On every beach there is at the Mediterranean?

    Anyway, there is an idea making the rounds in Europe at the moment which includes building huge refugee camps in North Africa, where the refugees would stay while their asylum requests would be considered.
    Also not very realistic, I suppose, but by far not as stupid an idea as fences.

    Train the dolphins to overturn the boats and drag the “refugees” down. I bet they would do it for a fish.

    It is stupid to believe that then third world will ever control its population on its own.

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  48. Chechens like the Tsarnaevs … could be having a blast in Havana

    Ha! You’re killing.

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  49. If, say Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) announced he wanted to visit Israel to see how a serious country takes care of immigration security, what would happen?’

    Israel would give him the run around, show him only what they wanted him to see. He’d have to make the trip unofficially, off the books so to speak. Perhaps send a few US representatives, unofficially, hush hush, of course. That way they could observe the daily goings on of these policies and then report back.

    I hope Japan is watching closely this type of scenario. Pay various nations money (bribe geld) to take refugees and/or unasked for immigrants off their hands.

    Both Japan and Israel have this idea that their own nations belong to their native born citizens of their particular ethny. Fancy that.

    It’s like, “Uh, yeah, why exactly do you want to come here to our ‘hood again? We certainly didn’t ask you to come. Why don’t you go to that nice big nation just one continent over? We’ll even pay your way over to get there, you’ll just looooove it there!”

    And Israel breathes a collective sigh of Whew!

    Yes, Japan ought to keep this kind of policy in mind. To preserve and protect their culture, DNA, etc. They owe it to their ancestors as well as to preserve their future.

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  50. @Bert
    Kagame is one of the only African leaders worth a damn and also happens to be a Tutsi, whom the Eritreans are very distantly related. Maybe there's a connection?

    There you go!
    Kagame is the leader of the Tutsi reconquista of Rwanda. The Tutsi used to be the ruling class and ethnicity in the central african Great Lakes region. They were basically cattle herders who lorded over the Hutu peasants. I’m not sure if what I read is mere propaganda but I’ve read that like a lot of cattle herders, they were quite aware of race and lineage and that they were definitely “racists” against the hutu (though it was possible for a worthy hutu to graduate into tutsidom). I have a half Tutsi acquaintance who wouldn’t be surprised by that assessment, as he often describes his fellow Tutsis as being rather arrogant and cold hearted people. He’s much more of a “nice” person and he attributes it to his non-Tutsi half.

    The Tutsi managed to always remain in power in neighboring Burundi, but in Rwanda they were chased out during a bloody revolution during the early 1960s. People of Kagame’s parents’ generation were kicked out to live in neighboring countries and they plotted their reconquest for years. In 1994. almost all of the Tutsis who had remained in Rwanda were exterminated within a mere 3 months. Some commentators suggest that Kagame didn’t really mind the genocide, as it gave him the perfect pretext to invade Rwanda, defeat the hutu regime, and kill a few hundred of thousands within Rwanda itself in revenge. The hutu murderers escaped to neighboring Congo and that led to the ongoing eastern Congo war, that’s been going on for like 20 years now and that has killed a few more millions.

    Kagame’s victory in Rwanda was total. He restored the Tutsi order in Rwanda and you now have Rwanda, Burundi and Uganda that are ruled by Tutsis and their relatives. It’s now taboo to explicitly speak of Tutsis and Hutus in Rwanda but it’s clear that the Tutsi english speaking diaspora has taken over the country and that they wouldn’t mind more people like them coming in to help achieve demographic dominance. I know real life Tutsis and *they know* that they’re related to the Erythreans, Somalians and Ethiopians. They don’t believe the dumb marxist historians who tell them that it’s the belgian who “invented” the Tutsis and the Hutu. Some Tutsis go further and believe that they’re closely related to other herders like the Fulani, which might be true. I suspect that during the wet sahara phase 7000 years ago or so, all those herders may have been one people that was roaming Africa from west to east following their cattle.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Some commentators suggest that Kagame didn’t really mind the genocide, as it gave him the perfect pretext to invade Rwanda,"

    Actually, Kagame started his Tutsi reconquista of Rwanda in 1990, the Hutu massacres of Tutsi civilians in 1994 was a reaction to the Tutsi invaders getting close to winning. It's a lot like the Terror in Paris in 1793 under the threat of invasion to reinstate the Old Order. Kagame opposed outside intervention to stop the genocide because that would free the battlelines without a complete Tutsi triumph, which he got later that year.

  51. @ogunsiron
    There you go!
    Kagame is the leader of the Tutsi reconquista of Rwanda. The Tutsi used to be the ruling class and ethnicity in the central african Great Lakes region. They were basically cattle herders who lorded over the Hutu peasants. I'm not sure if what I read is mere propaganda but I've read that like a lot of cattle herders, they were quite aware of race and lineage and that they were definitely "racists" against the hutu (though it was possible for a worthy hutu to graduate into tutsidom). I have a half Tutsi acquaintance who wouldn't be surprised by that assessment, as he often describes his fellow Tutsis as being rather arrogant and cold hearted people. He's much more of a "nice" person and he attributes it to his non-Tutsi half.

    The Tutsi managed to always remain in power in neighboring Burundi, but in Rwanda they were chased out during a bloody revolution during the early 1960s. People of Kagame's parents' generation were kicked out to live in neighboring countries and they plotted their reconquest for years. In 1994. almost all of the Tutsis who had remained in Rwanda were exterminated within a mere 3 months. Some commentators suggest that Kagame didn't really mind the genocide, as it gave him the perfect pretext to invade Rwanda, defeat the hutu regime, and kill a few hundred of thousands within Rwanda itself in revenge. The hutu murderers escaped to neighboring Congo and that led to the ongoing eastern Congo war, that's been going on for like 20 years now and that has killed a few more millions.

    Kagame's victory in Rwanda was total. He restored the Tutsi order in Rwanda and you now have Rwanda, Burundi and Uganda that are ruled by Tutsis and their relatives. It's now taboo to explicitly speak of Tutsis and Hutus in Rwanda but it's clear that the Tutsi english speaking diaspora has taken over the country and that they wouldn't mind more people like them coming in to help achieve demographic dominance. I know real life Tutsis and *they know* that they're related to the Erythreans, Somalians and Ethiopians. They don't believe the dumb marxist historians who tell them that it's the belgian who "invented" the Tutsis and the Hutu. Some Tutsis go further and believe that they're closely related to other herders like the Fulani, which might be true. I suspect that during the wet sahara phase 7000 years ago or so, all those herders may have been one people that was roaming Africa from west to east following their cattle.

    “Some commentators suggest that Kagame didn’t really mind the genocide, as it gave him the perfect pretext to invade Rwanda,”

    Actually, Kagame started his Tutsi reconquista of Rwanda in 1990, the Hutu massacres of Tutsi civilians in 1994 was a reaction to the Tutsi invaders getting close to winning. It’s a lot like the Terror in Paris in 1793 under the threat of invasion to reinstate the Old Order. Kagame opposed outside intervention to stop the genocide because that would free the battlelines without a complete Tutsi triumph, which he got later that year.

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    You're perfectly right, of course. I was trying to simplify the story but I guess I oversimplified!
    , @Vendetta
    And good that he did. Decisive victory allowed him to spend the last 20 years actually redeveloping the country instead of being tied up in some shitty power-sharing arrangement and frozen conflict.

    God forbid anyone actually win a civil war somewhere.
  52. @Bernard the Realist
    Wrong George
    Rwanda genocide 800000 Tutsi killed by far more numerous Hutu ,Rwanda population
    90% Hutu 10% Tutsi,Hutu always resented that Tutsi were and are cleverer so RUN the country
    properly. Kagame is a TUTSI was a refugee in Uganda until he became involved in liberating
    Rwanda ,did so and now runs a very successful central african nation. I suggest George reads what
    Kenneth Richberg [ black US journalist in central africa covering the GENOCIDE wrote about it especially that he said he thanked God that his ancestors survived the slave ship journey to the US]

    Hutu always resented that Tutsi were and are cleverer so RUN the country
    properl
    ——
    Careful. In Burundi the Tutsi ruling class never lost power and they’ve been able to keep it by exterminating a few hundreds of thousands of hutus once in a while. Burundi is a pretty lame country even by African standards. The Tutsi ruling class there is a military elite, not much of a cognitive one. In Nigeria you have something similar with the muslim northerners feeling naturally superior to the southerners who are natural slaves to them, even though the southerners (Yoruba, Igbo, etc) are way brighther then the northerners. It’s jusy that the southerners appear to be extremely incopetent, militarily, which is why Nigeria is back under official northern control.

    A side of me admires Kagame for his Lee Kwan Yew-esque ambitions and style. It’s possible that he will manage to do something with Rwanda. I have heard about his cleaning up of the coutry both in terms of corruption and actual appearance of the cities. He conducts diplomatic efforts and he’s trying to “market” Rwanda abroad. He’s even handing out scholarships for other 3rd world students to come and study in Rwanda! Another side of me wonders about his ultimate ambitions though. Tutsi racial supremacy all over central africa ? Allying himself with Fulanis, north-Sudanese and other Horners against the other negroid peoples of Africa ? strengthening the bond that the Tutsis feel with the jews and being the conduit for israeli/jewish domination in the heart of Africa ? i wonder …

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    I wanted to try and dispute a bit the idea that the Nigerian Southerners were less competent from a military standpoint. They were severely outnumbered but made up for it in military success, until Nigeria proper got material aid from the Brits against Biafra, while all the Biafrans got where a few daring white volunteers and Christmas cards from the French. The first memetic photos of pot-bellied African children with huge heads and skinny limbs came from Biafra, which was starved into submission. Those bright Igbos, who were into commerce, book smarts and democratic tendencies, have been feeling the effects of child malnutrition ever since, in terms of related diseases and lower IQ. What is most galling is that Britain chose the authoritarian and fundamentalist Northerners, the perpetually underdeveloped Hausa-Fulani, over the much more Westernizable Southerners, just because the idiot but martially inclined second sons the Brits sent out to run their empire had a man-crush on the leaders of these kinds of easily controlled societies. Also, the Igbos sit on top of the oil. It was Northerners who voted against independence from the Brits, who were content to let them stew in their ignorance if they kept their mouths shut.

    The always entertaining War Nerd:

    https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/war-nerd-boko-haram/

    http://pando.com/2015/01/28/the-war-nerd-boko-haram-and-the-demon-consensus/
  53. @Steve Sailer
    "Some commentators suggest that Kagame didn’t really mind the genocide, as it gave him the perfect pretext to invade Rwanda,"

    Actually, Kagame started his Tutsi reconquista of Rwanda in 1990, the Hutu massacres of Tutsi civilians in 1994 was a reaction to the Tutsi invaders getting close to winning. It's a lot like the Terror in Paris in 1793 under the threat of invasion to reinstate the Old Order. Kagame opposed outside intervention to stop the genocide because that would free the battlelines without a complete Tutsi triumph, which he got later that year.

    You’re perfectly right, of course. I was trying to simplify the story but I guess I oversimplified!

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  54. “There’s no Hutu propaganda anywhere. Anyone who doesn’t buy the official story gets called a troll by the internet guardians.”

    There’s a pervasive pro-Hutu bias across the entirety of polite society. There’s billions in foreign aid and NGO funding that’s slotted for the most brutal, backwards and undeveloped societies on the planet. Virtually any professional “African policy wonk” makes his living from the fact that the continent is mostly a hellhole. If every sub-saharran country re-organized its government along the lines of Botswana, it would put a lot of people out of work.

    Tutsi government has proven to be competent, effective and most importantly self-reliant. That’s bad for business. Hutu government, if you can even call it that, can consistently be relied upon to produce the train wrecks that keep the NGOs busy and relevant. Journalists don’t care to spend hours delving into the messy details of African “tribal warfare.” They consult the “African experts” for short, simplified soundbites.

    And that’s how the 1994 holocaust against Tutsis, and its ongoing continuation in the Eastern Congo, has transformed in the public’s mind to a back-and-forth tit-for-tat tribal squabble.

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  55. Re: bond between Tutsis and Jews/Israelis :

    A few quotes from http://www.kulanu.org/tutsi/havila.php

    One of the Hebraic tribes isolated in the sacred land of Havila is called Tutsi or Batutsi.

    During these last forty years, the Batutsi have been exterminated, and still now they are being exterminated, because of their Hebraic identity and their Salomonic legacy

    Afrocentrism meets “lost tribes” ?

    The cultural and religious references of Batutsi have perpetuated either the pharaonic monotheism of the eighteenth Dynasty of Egypt or the Mose’s prescriptions transcripted in the Hebraic Torah

    From what I gather, this “movement” was created by a Tutsi living in Belgium (where Antwerpen happens to be). I have no idea if it’s influential at all but from interacting with my Tutsi friend I know that they seem to feel some kind of kinship with the jews and that it’s very much related to the recent events.

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    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    First black athena and now black Moses.

    They are just cropping up everywhere in history. So much better to create these historical figments than to have to deal with present realities of third worldism, primitivism, etc.

    Better to think that they helped assist in the Torah than to concede that they cornered the market in giving the world malaria and Ebola.
  56. @DKR
    I spent some time in Tel Aviv over the summer. The African immigrant population is really getting out of hand. Many parts of Tel Aviv resemble African ghettos, densely packed with masses of African immigrants.

    The central bus station in Tel Aviv was always filled with African and, curiously, a sizable number of Asian (seemingly southeast Asian) immigrants.

    Compared to Americans, Israelis are much more overtly racist towards Africans. I recall an incident that occurred while I was on a bus in Tel Aviv. At the bus stop (in some African enclave), a group of young African men tried to muscle their way onto the bus through the rear doors without paying the fare. Some Israelis aboard the bus yelled racial slurs at them and began pushing them off the bus. It is unthinkable that Americans would react in a similar manner.

    The southeast Asians may well be legit temporary foreign workers. From what I understand, for a long time, Israeli companies were happy to employ Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank within Israel doing low-level, manual labour type things like farm work. After the Second Intifada, Israelis were understandably nervous about the practice, so they started bringing in Philipinos and Thais to do the same jobs.

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  57. @Bill

    In ethnically mixed countries where the different ethnic groups hate and want to kill each other, it’s probably best if the guy in charge is scary. Saddam Hussein and the Ottoman emperors did a much better job of preventing genocidal civil wars than any democratic government possibly could.
     
    +1. Democracy, diversity, peace: pick 2.

    You’re lucky to get one out of that group.

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  58. @Vendetta
    Nice Hutu propaganda you're spreading. You must think the Khmer Rouge were the real victims in Cambodia, too.

    If that's just an article you pulled off a Google search because you don't know who Paul Kagame is, drop that garbage like it's toxic.

    Paul Kagame:
    - Defeated the genocidal Hutu regime
    - Kept the peace ever since
    - Kept those freaks out of the country ever since then
    - Had the decency not to do right back unto the Hutu what they did to the Tutsi
    - Declared an end to racial identity politics in Rwanda
    - Continues to work an economic miracle in Rwanda
    - Has actually used the humanitarian aid his country receieves for productive ends
    - Has stamped out corruption to a vast extent in Rwanda
    - Has overseen great strides forward in Rwandan living conditions and quality of life

    Etc, etc.

    So if that article was your first introduction to him, just know that you're defaming one of the only great and effective leaders Africa has produced in the last half century, the closest they've got to a Lee Kuan Yew.

    And if you are by some chance a Hutu nationalist or just a Chomsky-on-Cambodia-level denier of reality determined to cast the murderers as the victims, then to Hell with you.

    All those accomplishments and his most treasured achievement is still topping the Hip Hop Charts with The Humpty Dance.

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  59. @ogunsiron
    Re: bond between Tutsis and Jews/Israelis :

    A few quotes from http://www.kulanu.org/tutsi/havila.php


    One of the Hebraic tribes isolated in the sacred land of Havila is called Tutsi or Batutsi.

    During these last forty years, the Batutsi have been exterminated, and still now they are being exterminated, because of their Hebraic identity and their Salomonic legacy
     
    Afrocentrism meets "lost tribes" ?

    The cultural and religious references of Batutsi have perpetuated either the pharaonic monotheism of the eighteenth Dynasty of Egypt or the Mose’s prescriptions transcripted in the Hebraic Torah

     

    From what I gather, this "movement" was created by a Tutsi living in Belgium (where Antwerpen happens to be). I have no idea if it's influential at all but from interacting with my Tutsi friend I know that they seem to feel some kind of kinship with the jews and that it's very much related to the recent events.

    First black athena and now black Moses.

    They are just cropping up everywhere in history. So much better to create these historical figments than to have to deal with present realities of third worldism, primitivism, etc.

    Better to think that they helped assist in the Torah than to concede that they cornered the market in giving the world malaria and Ebola.

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    Journalists don’t care to spend hours delving into the messy details of African “tribal warfare.” They consult the “African experts” for short, simplified soundbites.

    Why get it from the “African experts” when they can get all they need from you who is obviously so much better informed than those mere “experts”? ‘Ladies and gentlemen, Africa is “mostly a hellhole”. That’s all you need to know, end of my lecture.’ Very astute analysis.

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  61. @Steve Sailer
    "Some commentators suggest that Kagame didn’t really mind the genocide, as it gave him the perfect pretext to invade Rwanda,"

    Actually, Kagame started his Tutsi reconquista of Rwanda in 1990, the Hutu massacres of Tutsi civilians in 1994 was a reaction to the Tutsi invaders getting close to winning. It's a lot like the Terror in Paris in 1793 under the threat of invasion to reinstate the Old Order. Kagame opposed outside intervention to stop the genocide because that would free the battlelines without a complete Tutsi triumph, which he got later that year.

    And good that he did. Decisive victory allowed him to spend the last 20 years actually redeveloping the country instead of being tied up in some shitty power-sharing arrangement and frozen conflict.

    God forbid anyone actually win a civil war somewhere.

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  62. How much would Rwanda want to take John McCain off our hands? Whatever they’d ask, it would be a bargain at twice the price.

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  63. @Twinkie
    But this racket still requires "refugees" to cover great distances. There is an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy and guarantee free national defense courtesy of the U.S. armed forces for the following 50 years.

    “But this racket still requires “refugees” to cover great distances. There is an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy and guarantee free national defense courtesy of the U.S. armed forces for the following 50 years.”

    Wow, you honestly and truly don’t think much of your ancestral homeland, do you?

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  64. @International Jew

    Only Israel can pull it off, Steve. They can get away with anything.
    Any western country doing the same would be denounced as racist
     
    Not really, in the world's imagination Israel exists in an intermediate category. Go down a notch to countries like Egypt and adherance to international law is not expected at all. African "refugees" in Israel arrived via Egypt; technically it was Egypt's responsibility to take them in but in practice Egypt drove them to the Israeli border with not infrequent resort to gunfire.

    Japan's in Israel's category; if the Japanese ever faced this problem (admittedly unlikely!) they could get away with a Rwandan deal.

    But Egypt doesn’t attempt to pass itself of as western or as a liberal democracy. Israel’s boosters are forever playing up Israel’s western and liberal features. So don’t cry foul when you’re held to the same standards as western liberal democracies.

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  65. As Steve wrote about Muslims in the Netherlands, paying people to leave is a viable idea, at least in principle.

    The median net worth of Hispanic households in the US is less than $10,000. The short-term liquidity of those households might be considerably more limited than that.

    So pay legal immigrants cash (say $5,000) to renounce their permanent residency and/or citizenship. Make it $10,000 for families.

    This would be an even more effective tactic with anchor babies if we actually started attriting the illegal population. Since we’re kicking out the parents anyway, offer them some cash to repudiate their children’s US citizenship on their way out.

    It would be extremely expensive, sure, but you can’t put a price on reclaiming your children’s birthright.

    (The more practical problem with such a plan is that it would require politicians who care about their people’s future.)

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  66. Israel and Rwanda are discussing a deal in which the East African nation would take in illegal migrants from the Jewish state in exchange for favorable contracts.

    The brokers at Dark Continent & Associates are churning the accounts of their clients from the White Man’s Burden Investment Club.

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  67. @Bill

    In ethnically mixed countries where the different ethnic groups hate and want to kill each other, it’s probably best if the guy in charge is scary. Saddam Hussein and the Ottoman emperors did a much better job of preventing genocidal civil wars than any democratic government possibly could.
     
    +1. Democracy, diversity, peace: pick 2.

    Democracy, diversity, peace: pick 2.

    Why do people keep mangling this? You’re at least the third commenter I’ve seen who trips over it.

    I get the sense a lot of the commentariat here are trying to avoid the realization that the American experiment is time-limited and drawing to a close. You don’t get two of three; you get one of three.

    Sailer’s formulation is more accurate: Diversity, Liberty or Equality; choose one.

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  68. @Twinkie
    But this racket still requires "refugees" to cover great distances. There is an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy and guarantee free national defense courtesy of the U.S. armed forces for the following 50 years.

    …an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy…

    That sounds exactly like the premise of a movie I remember from the fifties, The Mouse That Roared.

    It starred Peter Sellers and, according to Wikipedia, was based on a novel of the same title by an Irish-American writer named Leonard Wibberley.

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  69. If immigrants could be simply taken off your hands for cash, this could start an interesting market. Kagame may find some other country that’ll take them off his hands for less and pocket the difference himself. It would be interesting if immigrants were quoted on the Stock Exchange and one could compare their relative (un)desirability.

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  70. Israel would send hundreds of Eritrean and Sudanese nationals, many of them asylum-seekers, to Rwanda in return for favorable deals that include millions of dollars in grants, The East African reported Friday.

    A business model that does Black Africa proud: ship product that wasn’t ordered, isn’t wanted, and doesn’t work; accept returns only on payment of a restocking fee.

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  71. “Sailer’s formulation is more accurate: Diversity, Liberty or Equality; choose one.”

    Diversity, which incorporates liberty–the freedom of people to freely associate with people of their liking within the established rules of said people–and equality–the right of human beings within a designated area to be treated according to established rules of said people.

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  72. @ogunsiron
    Hutu always resented that Tutsi were and are cleverer so RUN the country
    properl
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    Careful. In Burundi the Tutsi ruling class never lost power and they've been able to keep it by exterminating a few hundreds of thousands of hutus once in a while. Burundi is a pretty lame country even by African standards. The Tutsi ruling class there is a military elite, not much of a cognitive one. In Nigeria you have something similar with the muslim northerners feeling naturally superior to the southerners who are natural slaves to them, even though the southerners (Yoruba, Igbo, etc) are way brighther then the northerners. It's jusy that the southerners appear to be extremely incopetent, militarily, which is why Nigeria is back under official northern control.

    A side of me admires Kagame for his Lee Kwan Yew-esque ambitions and style. It's possible that he will manage to do something with Rwanda. I have heard about his cleaning up of the coutry both in terms of corruption and actual appearance of the cities. He conducts diplomatic efforts and he's trying to "market" Rwanda abroad. He's even handing out scholarships for other 3rd world students to come and study in Rwanda! Another side of me wonders about his ultimate ambitions though. Tutsi racial supremacy all over central africa ? Allying himself with Fulanis, north-Sudanese and other Horners against the other negroid peoples of Africa ? strengthening the bond that the Tutsis feel with the jews and being the conduit for israeli/jewish domination in the heart of Africa ? i wonder ...

    I wanted to try and dispute a bit the idea that the Nigerian Southerners were less competent from a military standpoint. They were severely outnumbered but made up for it in military success, until Nigeria proper got material aid from the Brits against Biafra, while all the Biafrans got where a few daring white volunteers and Christmas cards from the French. The first memetic photos of pot-bellied African children with huge heads and skinny limbs came from Biafra, which was starved into submission. Those bright Igbos, who were into commerce, book smarts and democratic tendencies, have been feeling the effects of child malnutrition ever since, in terms of related diseases and lower IQ. What is most galling is that Britain chose the authoritarian and fundamentalist Northerners, the perpetually underdeveloped Hausa-Fulani, over the much more Westernizable Southerners, just because the idiot but martially inclined second sons the Brits sent out to run their empire had a man-crush on the leaders of these kinds of easily controlled societies. Also, the Igbos sit on top of the oil. It was Northerners who voted against independence from the Brits, who were content to let them stew in their ignorance if they kept their mouths shut.

    The always entertaining War Nerd:

    https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/war-nerd-boko-haram/

    http://pando.com/2015/01/28/the-war-nerd-boko-haram-and-the-demon-consensus/

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    Actually, the reason given in historical works for why British colonialists favored northern Muslims over southern Christians in Nigeria, was that the British, generally, found the Muslims to be honest, straightforward and guileless, whilst the southern tribes were characterized as being corrupt, dishonest and deceitful. Perhaps it's relevant that the all the internet scams that Nigeria is so renowned for emanate from the south. Also, the southerners such as the Igbo and the Yoruba were the biggest slave dealers on the planet, and tried the hardest to keep the slave trade going.
  73. Compared to Americans, Israelis are much more overtly racist towards Africans. I recall an incident that occurred while I was on a bus in Tel Aviv. At the bus stop (in some African enclave), a group of young African men tried to muscle their way onto the bus through the rear doors without paying the fare. Some Israelis aboard the bus yelled racial slurs at them and began pushing them off the bus. It is unthinkable that Americans would react in a similar manner.

    It’s unthinkable that American Jews would tolerate Americans reacting in a similar manner.

    And if you are by some chance a Hutu nationalist or just a Chomsky-on-Cambodia-level denier of reality determined to cast the murderers as the victims, then to Hell with you.

    The Rwandan Genocide put blacks in the record books, with a higher death rate than THE Nazi holocaust. Denying this achievement is racism, pure and simple. Plucky African underdog totally demolishes the German industrial juggernaut, using mostly machetes, and you want to diminish their accomplishment. For shame.

    But even Israel faces opposition to borders, walls, and deporting refugees. The Tel Aviv “bubble” people, mostly wealthy Ashkenazi, don’t like it and find it awful.

    Yep – ineffectual, marginal, opposition, the only real purpose of which is for use as a fig leaf by American Jewry.

    Indeed Berlin has about 20,000 or so mostly Ashkenazi Israelis sitting out conscription. Berlin!

    This just confirms for me that Jews have no shame (as a group, and relatively speaking). Something tells me they’re not rolling over for native Germans every chance they get.

    But Egypt doesn’t attempt to pass itself of as western or as a liberal democracy. Israel’s boosters are forever playing up Israel’s western and liberal features. So don’t cry foul when you’re held to the same standards as western liberal democracies.

    Bah, depends on context. Sometimes it’s better for the Jews if they say “we’re so much better than our neighbors, bla bla bla.” In that case, they happily compare themselves to places like Yemen and Syria. Sometimes it’s better for the Jews if they pretend they’re best compared to Switzerland and France. Around here you play up Israel’s conservative bona fides and the population’s whiteness. In most places, you play up Israel as a liberal democracy and the population as diverse. It’s all about the audience, and what they’ll fall for.

    (The more practical problem with such a plan is that it would require politicians who care about their people’s future.)

    And if we had them, there’d be ways to assure the criminal infiltrator (Israeli & Associated Press term) populations departure that would actually make money for taxpayers. I.e., close the border, e-verify, an end to any and all public services for illegals, draconian laws against employing illegals, public campaign announcing what’s about to happen, a modicum of enforcement (it’s not like it takes a lot of drug enforcement to keep the vast majority of businessmen terrified of drug smuggling). Not only will the criminal infiltrators self-deport back to a place where they can find employment, but a huge economic burden will be lifted from the shoulders of the taxpayers. Oh, and the price of a head of lettuce will go up by two cents.

    Pretty much all done with an iphone and a pen!

    A business model that does Black Africa proud: ship product that wasn’t ordered, isn’t wanted, and doesn’t work; accept returns only on payment of a restocking fee.

    Hey, it’s not Africa’s fault if white people have a problem just throwing unwanted stuff away.

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  74. @officious intermeddler
    That was the plot of The Mouse that Roared, a book and movie from the late 1950's/early 1960's. They're dated now but still have their funny moments.

    That was the plot of The Mouse that Roared, a book and movie from the late 1950′s/early 1960′s. They’re dated now but still have their funny moments.

    I just looked up the trailer on YouTube. Looks very good. I will have to find it.

    As with any satire, it’s based on reality, eh?

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  75. @Jonathan Silber
    ...an even easier racket for primitive nations: declare war on the United States and then immediately surrender before a single bomb falls. The ensuing occupation will bring billions to the economy...

    That sounds exactly like the premise of a movie I remember from the fifties, The Mouse That Roared.

    It starred Peter Sellers and, according to Wikipedia, was based on a novel of the same title by an Irish-American writer named Leonard Wibberley.

    Thank you. I intend to rent it, if possible.

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    @Romanian
    I wanted to try and dispute a bit the idea that the Nigerian Southerners were less competent from a military standpoint. They were severely outnumbered but made up for it in military success, until Nigeria proper got material aid from the Brits against Biafra, while all the Biafrans got where a few daring white volunteers and Christmas cards from the French. The first memetic photos of pot-bellied African children with huge heads and skinny limbs came from Biafra, which was starved into submission. Those bright Igbos, who were into commerce, book smarts and democratic tendencies, have been feeling the effects of child malnutrition ever since, in terms of related diseases and lower IQ. What is most galling is that Britain chose the authoritarian and fundamentalist Northerners, the perpetually underdeveloped Hausa-Fulani, over the much more Westernizable Southerners, just because the idiot but martially inclined second sons the Brits sent out to run their empire had a man-crush on the leaders of these kinds of easily controlled societies. Also, the Igbos sit on top of the oil. It was Northerners who voted against independence from the Brits, who were content to let them stew in their ignorance if they kept their mouths shut.

    The always entertaining War Nerd:

    https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/war-nerd-boko-haram/

    http://pando.com/2015/01/28/the-war-nerd-boko-haram-and-the-demon-consensus/

    Actually, the reason given in historical works for why British colonialists favored northern Muslims over southern Christians in Nigeria, was that the British, generally, found the Muslims to be honest, straightforward and guileless, whilst the southern tribes were characterized as being corrupt, dishonest and deceitful. Perhaps it’s relevant that the all the internet scams that Nigeria is so renowned for emanate from the south. Also, the southerners such as the Igbo and the Yoruba were the biggest slave dealers on the planet, and tried the hardest to keep the slave trade going.

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  77. Regrettably, the Africans that Israel dumps back on Africa will be deposited in nasty refugee camps in Rwanda and Uganda.

    The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (together with the Lutherans and Catholics) will then go harvest them from THOSE refugee camps and fly them to Minneapolis, Nashville, Lewiston, Maine, Atlanta and countless others small cities and towns across America.

    But by that time, the essential link will be broken: American will not be stuck taking Israel’s leavings, it will be rescuing poor benighted savages from African savagery–the Rwandan and Ugandan hellholes where the Israelis are depositing them.

    It is essential that this direct refugee link from Israel to America be broken. It prevents Americans from noticing that we are being mongrelized to maintain Israeli race purity.

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  78. If, say Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) announced he wanted to visit Israel to see how a serious country takes care of immigration security, what would happen?

    I don’t know what the Israelis would do, but the American media, outside the immigration patriot right, would completely ignore the event.

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