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In my new column now up at Taki’s Magazine, I ponder, among much else, whether Donald Trump is the New Hitler, and suggest instead as a better analog for Trump a foreign politician who is far more popular with American Republicans.

Staying up all Monday night to write a column for publication Wednesday morning is a tricky business when elections fall on a Tuesday.

So let me offer four longer-term perspectives.

First, Hispandering. While we still have Marco Rubio to kick around some more, let’s ponder just how badly the conventional wisdom has failed regarding the candidacies of Rubio and, to a jaw-dropping extent, Jeb Bush.

Read the whole thing there.

 

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  1. You’re right. But some of your regular commenters of a particular bent are going to blow a gasket.

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  2. He’s the new Steve Dahl.

    DC Sucks!! DC Sucks!!

    DC-Demolition.

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  3. Let me guess–he’s the American Bibi.

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    In the antiwhite dictionary:

    100% African = diverse
    100% Asian = diverse
    100% White = “needs diversity”

    White places will be “diverse enough” when all the white people are gone. Isn’t there a word for targeted racial replacement and cultural g- of an ethnic group?

    No-white-anything-anywhere: that’s the real white “Privilege”

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  5. OT - In Kansas City tonight we have an illegal who just murdered four people. He was apparently arrested last September for a driving violation, but ICE dropped the ball and he was released.

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  6. View post on imgur.com

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  7. I think the first comment probably nailed it with Netanyahu but my call would be Berlusconi.

    Make Bunga Bunga Great Again!

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  8. Trump would be the American Netanyahu except for his lack of army service and combat experience. But:
    Build a fence to stop illegals? Check
    Monetary and trade policy designed to secure exports, and maximum employment and growth at home? Check
    Get along with anyone who wants to get along with you, including Russia and China ? Check
    No nonsense with the Muslims? Check
    Favor the demographic of the country as it exists? Check
    The lack of army service though should not impede Trump here though. It isn’t as if Hillary and Bernie or Cruz have any.

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  9. John Schindler says he’s the American Berlusconi.

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  10. Obviously this was a mass act of love.

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  11. Correct.

    http://takimag.com/article/the_american_hitler_or_the_american_netanyahu_steve_sailer#axzz42NPGszOE

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  12. Jewish logic:

    ‘New Hitler’: a gentile who acts like a Jew.

    “I don’t want to be ruled by a gentile who thinks like I do.”

    ————-

    Dictator logic:

    ‘Traitor’: a common man who talks like the dictator.

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  13. Wow the jews sure played their Hitler card early, its not even April. What happens if Trump withdraws and someone further right takes his place as an alternative to the two faced system? Are they going to call him the Pharoah Ramses?
    I thought Hitler was their TRUMP Card.

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  14. This fear among elites, especially among Jewish elites, of Americans getting their own Israeli-style leadership has led Trump to be denounced as an American Hitler. But a more plausible analogy is that the wily entrepreneur has sniffed out an untapped niche in the market for an American Netanyahu.

    If only…..

    Realistically, though, Trump is only a pale shadow of Netanyahu when it comes to the national question.

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  15. a few differences:

    1/ Bibi never attended the ‘New York Military Academy’ (which later went bankrupt, hmmmm…). Instead of parading around in a silly uniform like other macho students like Stephen Sondheim, Bibi got shot in the shoulder in the rescue of the hijacked Sabena 571.

    2/ Bibi has gotten along with Romney.

    3/ Bibi has been married as many times as Trump but since Bibi’s not a billionaire having small hands is not likely. And unlike Trump he doesn’t brag about all the women he’s slept with, because, well there’s that low voice, and well, because…

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  16. Reminds me that when I worked at a travel agency long ago we used to say that Sabena stands for “Such a bad experience never again.”

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    No, Trump is definitely not the American Hitler.

    He is, rather, the Gentile Bernie Madoff.

    Steve, the great noticer, does not notice that Trump whole immigration pitch is an obvious fraud.

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  18. According to a Jewish friend who keeps a close eye on Israel, Trump is favored by 61 percent of the population there.

    On NPR’s “On the Media,” Nate Silver, who has contributed to that program since this primary season began, was asked why he got Trump so wrong. His excuse: there is a major political realignment going on. If Trump makes it to the general, he could turn blue states red. Therefore, Silver’s standard way of analyzing races is no longer relevant. As he observed, on a checklist of “what would make a candidate unelectable,” Trump checks most of the boxes yet triumphs nonetheless.

    http://www.onthemedia.org/story/nate-silver-2016-sky-orange/?utm_source=/story/psychology-predictions/&utm_medium=treatment&utm_campaign=morelikethis

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  19. Staying up all Monday night to write a column for publication Wednesday morning is a tricky business when elections fall on a Tuesday.

    Yeah, I remember kicking myself one year for not arranging overtime on Thanksgiving. I forgot that it fell on a Thursday, my day off.

    Didn’tcha see it comin’?

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  20. You should have lots more respect for the NY Military Academy which lasted 126 years. A very good run.

    New York Military Academy, Donald Trump’s alma mater, closes after 126 years
    Posted 3:37 PM, September 21, 2015, by Katherine Lam http://pix11.com/2015/09/21/new-york-military-academy-closes-after-126-years/#

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  21. The first law of politics could well be the Conservation of Hitler. So Trump is now Hitler. Hafez al Assad used to be Hitler. Before him it was Khaddafi, I think. Or maybe he was only Mussolini. However I’m pretty certain that Saddam Hussein was once Hitler. Of course, once Hitler was Hitler, but he wasn’t very good at it, so they had to find another one.

    Tag! You’re Hitler!

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  22. Tuesday’s Michigan primary should be a good test of whether Trump’s extreme East Coast style works for voters in the old industrial heartland.

    Michigan’s a little more pugnacious than Minnesota or Iowa, thanks to Detroit, and the influx of Scots-Irish and other hillbillies during the “arsenal of democracy” days. Same with northern Ohio and western New York.

    It’s like there’s a demeanor rainbow leading from NYC and post-Yankee New England, where they’re pretty hard-bitten, softening through the Great Lakes, “peak nice” in Iowa, Minnesota, and the Dakotas, hardening again through the Rockies, reaching longshoreman toughness on the Ecotopian coast again.

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  23. I agree, much more Berlesconi.

    I don’t see Trump doing this:

    On 8 May 1972 a Boeing 707 passenger aircraft operating that service, captained by British pilot Reginald Levy, DFC, was hijacked by four members of a Palestinian terrorist the Black September Organization, a Palestinian terrorist group. Following their instructions, Captain Levy landed the plane at Lod Airport (later Ben Gurion International Airport).[1]

    The attack, planned by Ali Hassan Salameh, was carried out by a group of two men and two women who pretended to be two couples: the group’s leader Ali Taha Abu Snina, plus Abed al-Aziz Atrash, Rima Tannous and Halsa. They were armed with two handguns, two hand grenades and two belts of explosives. Twenty minutes out of Vienna, the hijackers entered the cockpit. “As you can see,” Captain Levy told the 90 passengers, “we have friends aboard.” He concealed from the hijackers that his wife was a passenger on the plane.

    Soon after taking command, the hijackers separated the Jewish hostages from the others and sent them to the back of the aircraft. When the plane had landed, the hijackers demanded the release of 315 convicted Palestinian terrorists imprisoned in Israel, and threatened to blow up the airplane with its passengers.

    On 9 May 1972 at 4:00 p.m. the rescue operation began: a team of 16 Sayeret Matkal commandos, led by Ehud Barak and including Benjamin Netanyahu, both future Israeli Prime Ministers, approached the aircraft [7] disguised as aircraft technicians in white coveralls. Having immobilized it during the preceding night, they convinced the hijackers that its hydraulic system needed repair. They then stormed the aircraft, killing both male hijackers within two minutes. They also captured the two women hijackers and rescued all 90 remaining passengers.

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  24. Trump is an example of a gentile who assimilated to NY Jewish culture. Maybe that’s what the US needs, maybe not. But one thing I detect about the anti-Trump hatred is some of the “it’s all behind me” snobbishness of deracinated Jews who assimilated to some fictitious WASP ideal.

    Wouldn’t surprise me at all if unapologetic ethnic Jews had an affinity for Trump. Who knows whether they’ll vote for him, but that isn’t really the question given the size and non-Jewishness of the general US electorate.

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  25. Trump doesn’t have any set policies whatsoever. Like his alleged fortune–whose records he refuses to make public–his policies fluctuate daily “with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings.” He’s a masterly bullshitter.

    His personality is nothing like Hitler or Bibi. At best, you’re getting Lyndon Johnson; at worst, you’re getting Stalin. You’re taking your chances, to put it mildly.

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  26. The Godwin-Warhol law: In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

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  27. Great story about the pilot linked to that Wiki entry: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/world/europe/05levy.html?_r=2&hpw

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  28. http://www.jta.org/2016/03/07/news-opinion/united-states/oberlin-trustees-want-investigation-into-profs-anti-semitic-and-abhorrent-posts

    Negress vs Israel.

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  29. It’s like that fan theory that “James Bond” is a code name assigned to successive agents. It all makes sense now! Similarly, Hitler is a code name that is assigned to whomever the Powers that Be need to have universally hated at any given time.

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  30. You’re taking your chances, to put it mildly

    We’re taking our chances that some good may come of it. Voting for those other than Trump means accepting the reality that no good will come of it.

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  31. My mother worked as a travel agent. TWA = Try Walking Across

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  32. Fruiter Ascending.

    http://variety.com/2016/film/news/andy-wachowski-transgender-lilly-1201725853/

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  33. “At best, you’re getting Lyndon Johnson; at worst, you’re getting Stalin.”

    Stalin? Really?

    At best, you’re hysterical; at worst, you’re just full of s**t.

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  34. The current presidential candidate Netanyahu resembles is Cruz. Congenital oily liar.

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  35. Well…as long as he doesn’t invade Poland…

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  36. Stories like this also illustrate how totally different Israeli Jews are from diaspora Jews.

    I agree that Trump is more like Silvio Berlusconi, which is worrisome because Berlusconi wasn’t very effective as a politician (but way more brilliant as a businessman and totally self-made).

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  37. Berlusconi has been suggested by an FT columnist or two, but Netanyahu is a better fit because of his border barrier.

    So: will Netanyahu return the favor and film a campaign endorsement for Trump? And if he does, what impact will it have on American Evangelicals, Jews, and others?

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  38. Trump is the American Res Publica’s Julius Caesar; and for anyone who has not read the Aeneid, Dante’s Divine Comedy, or Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar, that’s a GOOD thing.

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  39. So: will Netanyahu return the favor and film a campaign endorsement for Trump? And if he does, what impact will it have on American Evangelicals, Jews, and others?

    It will inspire college riots, which are always good for the GOP, once the dust settles.

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  40. Maybe Trump can pick Jesse Ventura as his running mate to balance his “action hero” deficit…

    Seriously, I agree with you, but having Trump elected is a possible path back to having presidents who might do something like that… the last being, who? JFK, I guess.

    If Clinton wins, it’s going to help lock in the dominance of the Harvard-Yale business-law path to power, which path usually precludes anything like military service or manual labor.

    Steve, another nice article.

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  41. Never Cry Hitler

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  42. I’d say he’s more like the American Berlusconi.

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  43. All the politicans with their hands stained green;
    Have the best policies money can buy;
    $670,000 for giving a speach;
    now there is a policy that makes my heart beat.
    A moron, a war monger, a Zionist and Spy;
    Those are the guys that I have on my side.

    Telling the truth is a dangerous thing,
    People might take notice and begin to think;
    Why all the wars while my paycheck shrinks;
    Why all the financial repression and policies that stink;

    Why, oh why such clap trap on this site?
    Because everyone wants to know what I think!

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  44. Netanyahu isn’t very Trump-like, at least not anymore. Over two decades of politics have filed away his rough edges, making him cautious and conservative. He is a managerialist who is sane on demographics.

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  45. I wouldn’t mind if he invaded the polish sections of Pittsburgh and Chicago.

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  46. Trump is an example of a gentile who assimilated to NY Jewish culture. Maybe that’s what the US needs, maybe not. But one thing I detect about the anti-Trump hatred is some of the “it’s all behind me” snobbishness of deracinated Jews who assimilated to some fictitious WASP ideal.

    That’s pretty perceptive. I’d guess in his day to day life going back decades a good quarter of the people Trump interacts with in business are Jewish, as well as many people he grew up with. In that sense he’s more culturally Jewish than I am, having grown up in the midwest and south in towns that were less than 1% Jewish. “Schlonged” is not a word I’d ever use, and to the extent I know any yiddish slang like this I got it from TV.

    It may also be way Trump is so blase about offending the hypersensitive neocon Jews, who are very little like the Jews he interacts with.

    As far as accents, secular Jews my age who grew up in Manhattan speak normal General American English, but Long Islanders and NJ natives still have the “cauwfee” accent.

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  47. There are plenty of globalists who would like to open up Japan to Third World conquest, and plenty of Japanese businessmen who want cheap labor. Japan is the third part of the infamous Trilateral Commission.

    But the concept of “white guilt” doesn’t seem to have a counterpart in East Asia, a significant minority of Japan believes that the WWII aggression and atrocities was justified.

    The last time I checked, there was an increase in “temporary” foreign laborers

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-japan-economy-immigration-idUKKCN0W50EQ

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  48. Trump grew up in Queens. The outer borough accent is close to the ones in Long Island and Northeastern New Jersey. I was going to mention boxing commentator Max Kellerman as someone else with an outer borough accent, but interestingly, per Wiki, he went to high school in Greenwich Village.

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  49. This might end up being big news for Trump. Regular readers here may remember I’ve mentioned the Richman family of economists before, and their work on balanced trade. Ann Coulter just tweeted one of their essays in which they argue in favor of Trump’s tariff idea and against Mitt Romney’s criticism of it.

    Trump’s got the right instincts on trade, but the Richmans can give him an intellectual framework for it, like Sessions did on immigration. And we know Trump listens to Ann Coulter, so this could be good.

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  50. As far as accents, secular Jews my age who grew up in Manhattan speak normal General American English, but Long Islanders and NJ natives still have the “cauwfee” accent

    John Sebastian and Arlo Guthrie grew up in Greenwich Village, but I don’t hear a trace of the city in their speech.

    Nor with Anderson Cooper, though he was a class or two above them. At first I saw something vaguely Southern in Cooper, and turned out to be right. He was the littler kid in Wyatt Cooper’s Families, which I read back in the ’70s.

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  51. Trade-surplus countries have a lot more to lose from a trade war, so Trump’s negotiations would likely succeed.

    Romney and the other free traders never seem to grasp this concept. Not only is America a trade-deficit nation, it’s also the world’s largest market. Any nation with a huge surplus with us, or serious about competing, has to continue to do business in the USA. It’s too juicy a market to abandon.

    Therefore, if you are negotiating on behalf of the USA, you are sitting on a winning hand. Trump realizes this and will milk it for all it’s worth. Romney and the free traders seem to act like they are representing some pipsqueak like Netherlands who are just grateful people are willing to sell stuff in their country. No wonder we’ve been getting the short end of the stick for so long.

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  52. The Ted Cruz story.

    What the hell happened to this guy? What a sad decline.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Quaid#Legal_issues

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  53. His personality is nothing like Hitler or Bibi. At best, you’re getting Lyndon Johnson; at worst, you’re getting Stalin. You’re taking your chances, to put it mildly.

    Why are people like you who make comparisons such as these not more embarrassed?

    They are patently ridiculous comparisons which belie the speaker’s total ignorance of the history of the 20th century, their imability to reason without splitting and their generally unhinged mind. I do not believe that anyone half intelligent can believe this nonsense.

    Therefore my only conclusion can be that you have such low self-esteem that you make up for it by holding everyone else in such low esteem that you truly believe that this type of absurd and facile argument can work.

    Louis CK is equally guilty. As is Jon Oliver and all the others.

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  54. “At best, you’re hysterical; at worst, you’re just full of s**t.”

    Have you not noticed the rash of hysterical ninnies concern trolling us since the Trump campaign got rolling?

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  55. LOL. That’s actually pretty funny.

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  56. Interesting article Steve but the ending was too abrupt. Rewrite it and have it on my desk by noon.

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  57. I don’t think Benjamin Netanyahu was part of the raid on Entebbe. I think he was in school in the US at the time (though he had served as a commando previously).

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  58. “Cautious and conservative” makes more sense in Israel than here. Israel already has an immigration policy in its self-interest; it already has a strong economy; and its current status quo WRT the Palestinians is likely better than any resulting from one of the recent peace plans.

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  59. Off topic but ‘Wachowski brothers are now the Wachowski sisters.’

    !!!

    http://mini.iol.co.za/tonight/news/international/wachowski-brothers-now-sisters-1995231

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  60. Right. And the “scaled tariff” the Richmans advocate further reduces the chance of retaliatory tariffs because it automatically declines as the trade deficit with each country declines.

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  61. This thread is pre-Godwinned.

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  62. Bibi is most like Jean-Marie Le Pen, as I’ve said before. Difference is that he won.

    Considering his military experience, the American pol he’s most like McCain, having become more hawkish overtime as well as being privately reprobate.

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  63. Trump can’t be Hitler because Pat Buchanan is:
    Pat Buchanan: Hitler Resurrected?

    In addition, Vladimir Putin is also Hitler:
    Is Vladimir Putin Another Adolf Hitler?

    Reagan was also Hitler:
    Berkeley study links Reagan, Hitler

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  64. Trump seems to me pretty identifiable as following the populist route of George Wallace, Perot, Pat Buchanan, maverick Congressman James Traficant, maybe a few others. I like Trump. I like him shaking things up. But, I’m having a really hard time seeing him gaining the nomination and the White House. Self-funded, Trump is a real threat to America’s oligarchs and global money men who’re used to buying access to both ends of the Republican-Democrat duopoly. In a nutshell, I suspect Trump’s security people have their hands full identifying assassination threats.

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  65. I think it was Hackett Fisher, among others, who pointed out that the West Coast was settled by East Coasters. But I could be mixing him up with someone else.

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  66. So you want to turn the republic into an empire? Apparently everyone was happy with the results for the first 100 years or so.

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  67. Cape Breton’s Campaign: If Trump Wins…

    The headline for a new local tourism campaign out of Nova Scotia reads:

    “Donald Trump may become the President of your country! If that happens, and you decide to get the hell out of there, might I suggest moving to Cape Breton Island!”

    It started out as a “tongue-in-cheek way of saying [to Americans] to put your money where your mouth is,” says creator Rob Calabrese of Cape Breton’s radio station The Giant.

    “Just hop on a bus to start your new life in Cape Breton, where women are legally able to choose an abortion, Muslim people can roam freely …”

    Tijuana if Trump wins website getting much fewer hits.

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  68. My mom likes him. (It doesn’t matter, she lives in NY.)

    The NYC thing isn’t purely Jewish, honestly. There’s Southern Italian and Irish Catholic in there too. (The joke was that the mayor had to visit the three ‘I’s: Israel, Italy, and Ireland.) Now, of course, it’s random immigrants from all over the place, but you’ll hear the classic accent in the outskirts, like Long Island and New Jersey. Chris Christie is actually much more ‘New York’ in the popular sense than most people actually from New York nowadays.

    I’m actually convinced part of the reason Trump’s lack of traditional ‘Hitlerish’ signaling is part of the reason the media let him get this far. I also kind of wonder if some of them secretly like him–they’ve done his campaign for him, basically, denouncing him all the time.

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  69. The stereotypical Linda Richman/Woody Allen NYC accent no longer exists in the city itself. You can hear it in Long Island and New Jersey.

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  70. Good analogy!!!

    I remember being told by the media that Rock n’ Roll was over and that Disco was going to rule forever. As Disco became an increasingly Gay and elitist genre (remember the “Velvet Ropes”, door bouncers, guest lists) working class and young people looking for a cheap night out rebelled against it.

    For the youngsters who have no idea what we are talking about.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night

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  71. Hollywood will be realocated to Antananarivo**

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  72. Reagan more or less did this with the cars, as I recall.

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  73. I enjoyed reading this about Rubio’s candidacy written late last year.

    http://www.zergnet.com/news/701287/10-reasons-marco-rubio-will-win-the-gop-nomination

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  74. It was his brother Yoni who led the Entebbe raid, and was killed at the moment of triumph.

    OT but not OT

    http://www.cityunslicker.co.uk/2016/03/us-politics-betting-post.html

    “I have been lucky the last few days to meet some very senior and influential Republican party types on their various visits to the UK. So lucky that I have been promised a dinner with Mr Trump on my next visit to the USA! (I reminded myself there are 2 kinds of luck).

    On the other hand, much of what they say is known in the media more widely, but there was one interesting titbit which I have acted on. Apparently, as well as wishing Trump to succeed over Cruz who the party bosses think is even more dangerous, they also are quietly confident that a brokered convention will be the outcome of the Primary votes.

    This means that no candidate has the backing necessary to gain the Republican nomination. In this case, the plan is to scrap all the current candidates, on the basis that none has passed muster and to appoint instead a new candidate who is more centrist and likely to beat HRC in the General Election in November.

    This candidate has already been chosen and his name is Paul Ryan. “

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  75. The Richmans mention that example in their post.

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  76. ” Therefore, Silver’s standard way of analyzing races is no longer relevant.”

    Well, Nate Silver made his reputation by studying and analyzing various polls back in 2012. He abandoned that method this cycle. Had he been paying attention and using his old method, he surely would have noticed that the polls strongly and consistently favored Trump since last summer when the Republican debates started and Trump started hitting on some popular themes. (He also showed clearly that he lacks the judgment to be a good theater critic. I don’t know how anybody could watch those debates from the beginning and not recognize that Trump stood head and shoulders above his competitors and made them all look small and insignificant by comparison, regardless of what you thought of his political positions. That’s called stage presence.) I think it was Nate Silver’s refusal to believe the polls (which is pretty funny considering his reputation was built on his successful reading of the polls when they favored Obama) and his distaste for Trump’s positions that have reduced Silver to a relatively meaningless figure on the political scene. Anybody who has been investing in the stock market for a number of years is familiar with the phenomenon, a guy who lucks out and makes a good call on the market or a stock and is immediately placed in the Pantheon alongside Warren Buffett. Joe Granville, anyone? The really good ones make good calls consistently over a long period of time, even if they make an occasional bum call along the way.

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  77. Since the end of multiculturalism, historically speaking, is genocide, today’s new Hitlers are Hillary, Obama, Schumer, Rubio, and Angela Merkel.

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  78. Israel’s Donald Trump Cancels Meeting With President Obama
    —By Kevin Drum | Tue Mar. 8, 2016 10:54 AM EST

    Maybe we’ve had this wrong all the time. Donald Trump isn’t the American version of Silvio Berlusconi. He’s the American version of Bibi Netanyahu.

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  79. I have absolutely no use for Donald Trump, but comparisons to Hitler are just silly.

    Trump is not so much a tyrant as a dilettante. He’s Mr. Toad from “Wind in the Willows.” He means everything he says while he says it, but says just the opposite moments later. He gets excited about a project for a few days or a few weeks, makes a hash of it, then forgets about it.

    If elected, he’s more likely to get bored with the job of President and resign than he is to do any of the things his rabid fans are hoping for.

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  80. The problem with that is that Octavians are a lot rarer than Calligulas.

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    What’s galling is the behind-the-scenes bitching and threats about Trump by diplomats and foreign ministers from countries like South Korea. Trump really needs to make Dennis Rodman ambassador to South Korea.

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  82. If it’s such a fraud the establishment have not gotten the memo.

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  83. I’m a foreigner, watching from afar. I gotta say I really enjoy Trump. So refreshing compared to the establishment pols. I think he’s actually quite smart, just couldn’t be bothered to worry about the details. Apparently he has pretty and well educated ladies taking care of that in his company. Hopefully he can continue with that personell template in the WH. Would make a refreshing change to the current occupiers.

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  84. This is a good essay but it calls to mind the typical Saileristic habit of ending abruptly that others have noted. I was looking for the part 2 where you might go into compare and contrast of Bibi and Trump. Alas, maybe we will read this next week, otherwise we will read it debated in the comments section. Maybe this was part of the plan. It is admittedly less clickbaitish than writing an obviously incorrect screed people feel compelled to correct, JC Dvorak style.

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  85. We would be prudent to keep in mind that Trump is not Stalin or Hitler or Netanyahu or any of a slew of historical characters, not to mention Ronald Reagan. These guys are or were unique; they were who they were. And with the exception of Bibi, they are all dead, buried and iconized. Trump is Trump; he is what we see and he will be what we get. We shouldn’t forget that.

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  86. Now you tell us! Discuss!

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  87. “a more plausible analogy is that the wily entrepreneur has sniffed out an untapped niche in the market for an American Netanyahu.”

    Of course. And why does nobody ever mention Dave Brat’s win over Eric Cantor in 2014? Ten to one that’s what gave Trump the idea. Not a single analysis of the Donald that I’ve read has ever mentioned this.

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  88. There used to be German Lutherans in NYC. But the 1904 PS General Slocum fire in which over 1000 German Lutheran children died destroyed their community (ethnic cleansing of Lower Manhattan). Many of their churches were converted into synagogues.

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  89. Romney and the free traders know exactly what is going. Certain US sectors and multi-nationals make out like bandits and make payoffs (bribes) to dialed in Washingtoon DC hacks while the USA (last thing on their mind) suffers as a whole

    And it’s shit end of the stick, not short end of the stick

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  90. One thing that should be noted about the ongoing Rubio flameout is that he’s at least the third Republican politician born after 1960 who has been picked and promoted, in a sense, by the establishment only to go down in flames and likely see any opportunity for national office disappear for good (the other two are Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan). If he loses Florida in a week, his career beyond that state is probably finished. Whatever ultimately happens to the Republican Party after this election, young, entrepreneurial Republican politicians might start noticing how much the establishment eats its young.

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    The Republican establishment never gets the memo.

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  92. If we must compare U.S. politicians of today to those of 1930s Europe, how about moving past Godwin to stretch our brains a bit.

    For instance, patriotic Austrians of the time were worried about fundamental changes to their polity — not due to immigration, but to the actions of their aggressive neighbor.

    In that regard, Trump may resemble Kurt Schuschnigg or his predecessor, Engelbert Dolfuss. Neither were good choices; both were better than the alternatives on offer.

    Though neither analogy is particularly inspiring, vis a vis that nation’s fate.

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  93. This candidate has already been chosen and his name is Paul Ryan.

    So their plan is basically just to throw the election to the Democrats, eh?

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  94. Trump is the next Alexander Lukashenko:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko

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  95. In 2013, Trump tweeted in response to RNC’s plan to appeal to Hispanics, “Does RNC have a death wish?” So, Trump is playing out something that has been on his mind since 2013, so David Brat in 2014 is not so significant…

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  96. There’s probably a 50/50 chance of that actually coming to pass. If things continue the way they have I could imagine people a century from now being only vaguely aware there was a first Hitler born in Europe somewhere.

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  97. “Donald Trump may become the President of your country! If that happens, and you decide to get the hell out of there, might I suggest moving to Cape Breton Island!”

    Cape Breton is Canada’s West-Virginia-by-the-Sea.

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  98. Rewatching HBO’s Rome, it is incredibly clear that Trunp is a non-military version of that show’s construction of Julius Caesar. At one point in series, the young Augustus, criticizing the Catonian politics of the day remarks “the aristocrats own all the land, people beg and starve in the streets of Rome and the slaves have taken all the labor from ordinary Romans.” It’s a bit of stretch to compare it to today’s environment, but it sounds somewhat similar.

    It’s also interesting on the show how nearly the entire branch of Roman elites is against Caesar while the lower classes universally love him. In another scene, Cato declares that the Pompeian side has nearly all the men of substance in Rome as opposed to Caesar having the support of Plebs. As the show progresses, increasing numbers of elites kiss the ring of Caesar as they see his popularity is unstoppable.

    Clearly the show take a lot of liberties with the historical accounts we have of Caesar. However, most histories depict Caesar’s politics and standing in the Roman Republic as being similar. So, it would seem apt to compare Trump in many ways to Caesar.

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  99. While many voters admired Romney for his nearly spotless private life, others no doubt found him too perfect.

    Some think of him as putrefying settling pond scum.

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  100. It doesn’t really matter to the establishment whether it’s a fraud. Even were Trump a true believer it’s unlikely he could get anything done on his own. What matters is Trump isn’t one of them and could cost them their jobs.

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  101. became an increasingly Gay and elitist genre

    Sounds like the same pattern is being repeated in current politics…

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  102. Wow. ic1000, you just stepped up the discussion. I am innumerate, so I am used to being left behind in following economic and statistical discussions, but I have never even heard of Schuschnigg or Dolfuss. I hope you are an academic. Otherwise, I am totally shamed….

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  103. Getting rid of Jeb is worth it

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  104. I agree; I have always thought that Trump will be similar to Berlusconi.

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  105. From the foreign countries perspective they really don’t care about surpluses and deficits at the national level, they just want the jobs anyway they can get them. These agreements are all about cheap labor for multinational corporations and protection of their property. It is about making sure that if an American corporation puts a factory in some third world country that a change in government won’t cause a change in ownership of that plant.

    This used to be done with an army in the old gunboat diplomacy days and now we have these crappy trade deals.

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  106. Nice try, but unfortunately awful. A lack of skill is acceptable as long as it is accompanied by amusement, but you have displayed neither.

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  107. Hitler was a left wing socialist who loved Muslims, abortion, euthanasia, and gun control, just like the American Democrat party.

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  108. JINOs are the new Nazis

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  109. History DOES repeat itself because men refuse to learn from it.

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  110. If Rubio was eligible

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  111. When Reagan got in the US auto, motorcycle, and semiconductor industries were on the verge of collapse – due to the combined incompetence of US business leaders, Japan’s MITI backstopping their efforts to muscle in, Japanese product superiority, and some bad timing.

    Reagan got them to agree to voluntary restraints. I don’t recall that there was any real legislation forcing them to holding back. There was a time that you could buy two year old Japanese motorcycles new in the crate because warehouses were full of them before the halt came. Japan was the world leader in memory chips and the microprocessor was not the big money maker then. There might have been some legislation was in making bikes over 700 CCs “big” to help Harley. That was why you saw all those 700 CC bikes instead of the standard 750 CC.

    If you remember that was when the “Honda drop” was started where they drop Hondas from a crane. A few Asians were attacked randomly. Japan was aware of the growing anger of American losing their jobs and decided to head it off.

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  112. The West has become a modern Sodom and Gomorrah.

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  113. Indeed! The American democrat party are fascists!

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  114. Don’t forget that BUSH == HILTER was all the rage in much of the mid-2000′s

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  115. Interesting perspective. Netanyahu gets most of his support from the poorer half of the Israeli population, the relatively low IQ Mizrahi of Middle Eastern origin, whom the European-Ashkenazi elites look down upon with a certain amount of disdain and distaste. So that part rings true.

    I’m waiting to see how many African- and Hispanic-American voters Trump will be able to attract to the Republican Party. Let Hillary play the race card. We may be seeing a fundamentals realignment of American politics based on class interest instead of ethnic identity. In which case the Democrats may find themselves in the political wilderness for a long, long time to come — sort of what happened to the Republicans after Roosevelt.

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  116. Steve, you mentioned Corey Booker the other day. Have you ever watched Street Fight? The parallels with Obama and Bobby Rush are amazing. I was rooting for Sharpe James by the end.

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  117. our neo-hitler during an unguarded moment:

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  118. Admittedly I am biased because I am from the midwest and this is flooding our local news. But how is news of the illegal Mexican murdering 5 people across the KC metro playing out? I figured this would be Yuge for Donald Trump. It basically makes the case he has been making about broken borders. And it reinforces the signature issue that got him rolling last summer. Also Missouri is a winner-take-all state with its primary next Tuesday. So far I haven’t seen Trump or the Ann Coulter types run with this.

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  119. That’s why the links are there..no need to play Know Nothing.

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  120. Bibi has worked tirelessly to purge the Israel Right of anyone who could be a threat to him. whilst executing acts of strategic genius like releasing thousands of Palestinian prisoners in order to free one soldier, or a pile of bones, or to tempt the Palestinians into another round of negotiations (which one would think superfluous since they are allegedly the ones who want a state and have nothing to offer for it in return).

    Then when elections comes around he scares everyone into thinking the Left are going to take over and give away Jerusalem (which they can’t because high time preference Palestinians can’t wait long enough to allow Israel to commit suicide without pulling out the suicide vests) and ….. 4 more years.

    So if that’s Trump, g’luck.

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  121. I dated a Jersey Jewish girl who had a pretty strong accent, though it had softened a bit after over a decade of living elsewhere.

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  123. Here is an observation about the recent election activity from Saturday through last night. Clearly Rubio tanked except for his yuge victory in Puerto Rico. Trump would appear to have been the winner taking 5 of the 9 contests, with Cruz taking 3 and Rubio PR. Additionally Trump’s victories were in the larger states.

    But Cruz actually appears to have won! It looks like he earned 125 delegates since Saturday versus 124 for Trump. That is a shock to me. Did anyone else realize Cruz has actually won more delegates since Saturday than Trump given that Trump has won the major states (LA, KY, MI, MS)?

    Yet Cruz benefited by two states (KS and ID) giving him a highly skewed amount of their delegates. So he netted 15 more delegates than Trump in KS and 8 more in ID. Meanwhile Trump’s win in KY only netted him 2 more delegates than Cruz. And Trump’s win in Louisiana gave him the same number of delegates as Cruz, eighteen each. How is that possible? Trump wins LA by a few points, but gets the same delegate count as Cruz?

    This is quite odd. One would get the impression Trump is rolling, but it is Cruz who has had the better delegate count since Saturday.

    Here is the current breakdown of the delegate count.

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  124. For the love of God, please define “anti-white”.

    “Isn’t there a word for targeted racial replacement and cultural g- of an ethnic group?”

    Whites as a race are not being systematically replaced, nor targeted on a large-scale by non-whites to be permanently removed.

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  125. I’m waiting to see how many African- and Hispanic-American voters Trump will be able to attract to the Republican Party

    They won’t and never will be Republicans. They will be Democrats hoping Trump does them some good. If Trump succeeds, the Democratic party may return to it’s roots of supporting the working class.

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  126. Cokie Roberts, of the DC Elite, just asked Trump on MSNBC via phone what he’d say to the little children who have been targeted at school by other children with taunts of, “When Trump is President you’ll have to go back.” She claimed there are “many reports of this.”

    I freaking hate the media.

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  127. Vote for the message not the messenger.

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  128. Only Hitler can beat Hitlery. I’ll vote for Trump in NY primaries.

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  129. I was under the impression that Cape Breton was pretty conservative and religious – albeit, my only experience with CB is a drive through the area when staying in Nova Scotia. This ad campaign sounds like “anything for a buck.” Have things changed there that much in the last twenty years?

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  130. Steve, the great noticer, does not notice that Trump whole immigration pitch is an obvious fraud.

    I do weary of being told that Trump’s immigration position is phony. I agree that there’s a decent chance this is true but, and this is the important part, he’s the only candidate who *might* substantially reduce immigration. Everyone else is just a product and puppet of the donor and political classes. We already know what they want, what they will do when given power. With Trump, though, we can’t be certain. He also derives his political power much more directly from the actual voters than the typical politician, so he will have more reason to try and do what he promises even if he doesn’t believe it. But of course a big part of the reason the cucks oppose Trump isn’t because they think he’s a phony, but because they are afraid that he isn’t.

    Trump is really the only hope in the presidential race to start turning the tide on immigration. I don’t like the odds on him, either to be elected or to follow through in office, but for everyone else the chance is ZERO. So he’s the only bet to make.

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  131. The current Republican establishment is far more likely than Trump to turn us into an empire with a tiny amount of rich people ruling over poverty-stricken serfs. The GOP establishment is pro-free trade and open borders, and they’re driving down wages and destroying America’s middle-class and making them lower-class. More and more college graduates from middle-class families have trouble finding jobs, buying houses, and buying cars, and GOP policies are aggravating these problems.

    I see Trump’s and his supporters’ ascendancy as “The old-fashioned Democrats (back when they were actually FOR the American worker and protecting American industry) take over the Republican Party.” And this is why the current GOP leaders are screaming like pigs headed for slaughter. With their economic current policies, GOP guys like Romney and Paul Ryan agree more with Obama Democrats than anyone else.

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  132. Mr Toad? That fictional character was always one step away from losing the farm, held back by employee stalwarts.

    You’ve obviously never been in business because to be in business is to take educated risks and get it wrong occasionally. As a media hound with enemies, any failure of Trump’s gets lots of publicity.

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  133. OT: The German stage adaptation of Michel Houellebecq’s novel Submission is a hit:

    Play about a French Muslim president hits nerve in Germany
    09 Mar 2016

    Stage adaptations of French author Michel Houellebecq’s novel “Submission”, in which a Muslim president takes power in 2022 France, have been a hit in Germany where a huge Mideast refugee influx has stoked fears of the impact of Islamic culture.

    The first German theatre version sold out in the northern city of Hamburg, while in Dresden, birthplace of the Islamophobic PEGIDA street movement, a play premiered last weekend, with a third adaptation planned for Berlin in late April.

    “It seems like it’s a very timely story because everybody, each in their own way, picks up on a point of the topic that concerns them,” actor Edgar Selge, who plays the central character Francois in Hamburg’s Deutsches Schauspielhaus theatre, told AFP.

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    http://www.afp.com/en/news/play-about-french-muslim-president-hits-nerve-germany

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  134. The office Bibi holds puts him on the list of noteworthy Martians:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/09/idaho-shooting-suspects-hypersexual-martian-manifesto-is-a-window-into-an-unraveling-mind/

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  135. This is great timing. Missouri’s primary is next week and Trump needs to hammer home the idea that many illegals are not the angels that the left portrays.

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  136. Super-Hitler

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  137. No, Trump doesn’t want to attack Russia, persecute Jews, or rule as a dictator. This is dumb. Someone mentioned Berlusconi earlier. That’s a closer match. Berlusconi also rose to power on the back of popular disillusionment with a decades-old political establishment run by the same old families where nothing ever changed election after election after election.

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  138. The problem with that is that Octavians are a lot rarer than Calligulas.

    Perhaps some future historian, writing about the American Republic, will refer to the first 44 as the era of the Good Presidents, perhaps highlighting one or two as standouts like Washington (Cincinattus) or Lincoln/FDR when the Republic was young. Then it spiralled into autocracy and we got a series of mediocre sometimes brutal Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camachos (Tiberius?) who “elected” themselves for life. Caligula and Marcus Aurelius are outliers at either end.

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  139. Andrew Jackson seems most apt, major differences being Jackson’s previous fame was as a war hero and his comparative childhood poverty.

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  140. Hitler again. Hitler is the Elvis of politics I guess. Quick somebody go to the Huffy Puffy comments section and say Cruz is the Cuban Elvis. I’ve always wanted to see a Hitler vs Elvis Celebrity Death Match!

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  141. “If elected, he’s more likely to get bored with the job of President and resign than he is to do any of the things his rabid fans are hoping for.”

    To me, the most astonishing thing about Trump is his uncanny ability to make seemingly intelligent people start babbling idiotic nonsense like this.

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  142. Interesting article. Notable point is that the Richmans call out Romney’s tough talk about trade with China as bogus, something he wouldn’t have followed through as President. Just like his positioning on immigration IMO, and another reason blue-collar people who didn’t like Romney were correct.

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  143. Whites as a race are not being systematically replaced, nor targeted on a large-scale by non-whites to be permanently removed.

    The second half of your statement is true. Whites are being targeted by other whites to be permanently removed. Non-whites are merely the mechanism for doing so.

    The first half of your statement just shows us, yet again, what an out of touch nincompoop you are.

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  144. You should change your handle to BlissfullyClueless

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  145. Does he need a new wife already?

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  146. Congress makes immigration policy. Trump’s coattails, if any, are more important than he is.

    If every new Senator were in the Sessions camp, we’d be sitting pretty. The President would only have a yes/no button on enforcement. And a threat of impeachment would dissuade him from choosing “no”.

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  147. There are still Gaelic speakers in the area. But, as with West Virginia, relative social conservatism can co-exist with living on subsidies. Just like Humpty said.

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  148. “When Trump is President you’ll have to go back”–this is supposed to break our hearts? You’ll have to go back home and be around people like yourself. How cruel!

    Anyway, who is supposed to be saying this, white kids or black? I can more easily imagine black kids doing so. And does Cokie ever agonize over the abuse white kids endure at majority-minority schools? Of course not.

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  149. It exists in the city, but is very rare in it.

    I probably interact with 200 to 300 people at my job in lower Manhattan. Let’s say that half of them grew up on the NY metro area. How many of those speak with the NY accent? Two. One is a moderately religious Jewish guy in his 60s who lives in Brooklyn, the other is a White Puerto Rican woman in her mid 50s who grew up in Brooklyn and now commutes from PA.

    I sometimes hear the accent in public transport, but it’s rare. I’m trying to think of any instances when I heard it from a young person and none come to mind. Is it really dying? Has anyone here heard it from a young person recently?

    In the Sopranos Tony and Carmela had a very strong accent, but Meadow, their daughter, had none at all.

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  150. His personality is nothing like Hitler or Bibi.

    If you want to know whose personality bears an uncanny resemblance to Hitler’s, it’s Obama. Both Hitler and Obama were outsiders, aloof, and born on the periphery of their societies. Both had “issues” in their childhood. Both were unaccomplished until entering politics. Both wrote narcissistic autobiographies before accomplishing anything. Both used propaganda extensively. Both were highly stage-managed. Both were demagogic speechmakers who had little interest in the details of public policy. Both had a distinct lack of sympathy for others. Both favored Muslims over Jews. Both had contempt for the legislative process. Both sought to “transform” their nations. Both saw themselves as central, historical figures and visionaries above normal politics. Both were inherently lazy.

    Trump is no Hitler. The neocon Jews who know that Trump will not dance to the crack of their whip are the ones accusing him of being so. Trump is a Huey Long populist.

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    Cruz seems to do better among traditional Republicans – Midwestern and Western Protestants. While Trump does better among traditional Democrats – the South, Rust Belt, and Northeastern white ethnics. Trump himself is Protestant but as a New Yorker is culturally more Northeastern white ethnic.

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  152. I don’t believe it actually repeats. I believe is rhythms.

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  153. Congress makes immigration policy.

    President Obama has used executive orders as well as his control of agencies to make all sorts of changes to immigration policy, all by himself. If the next president would simply enforce the laws that exist and not seek to undermine those who are charged with enforcing the, we would be way ahead of the game.

    I will never forgive Dubya for hanging Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean out to dry. (It’s on the long list of things I will never forgive him for.)

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  154. ” We may be seeing a fundamentals realignment of American politics based on class interest instead of ethnic identity. ”

    That was the great hope and belief of the Communists leading into World War I. In the end, people fought for their nation and ethnic ties and not for their economic interests. English factory workers happily slaughtered German factory workers, and vice versa.

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  155. He also had his attack dog US attorney in Arizona, Sutton was his name, going after anyone opposed to his open borders plans. He went after Ranch Rescue and the Minutemen. The Minutemen were force to videotape everything they did and would not even pour water down an illegal’s throat for fear of touching him and have the US government prosecute them. They would place the water bottle a few feet away and walk away.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Sutton

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  156. Mecha-Hitler from Wolfenstein 3D

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  157. WWT claims another casualty/recruits another soldier:

    http://variety.com/2016/film/news/andy-wachowski-transgender-lilly-1201725853/

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  158. > I hope you are an academic.

    Was a wannabe academician, but that didn’t pan out — probably for the best. Family from that part of the world explains my familiarity with those obscure politicians.

    The comparison came after reflecting on a recent comment by Harry Baldwin, worth repeating:

    …Then there are people like myself who believe that we’re battling for our national survival on the edge of a precipice. We can’t afford to give ground. We can’t pretend if we lose this election, maybe the voters will see things our way next time… No more General McClellans, waiting for “ideal conditions” to take on the enemy. We need someone to attack, someone who has already burned his bridges behind him… We can’t afford to wait any longer for another courteous, well-informed, articulate candidate. We’ll settle for the brash, rude, egotistical vulgarian. He has shown he’s willing to fight and at this point that’s all that counts.

    Most of my friends, colleagues, and family, take their cues from Charlie Rose, Colbert, Bloomberg, Romney, and the like. Even though few of us will be insulated from the continuing ill effects of the elite Democratic/GOPe/MSM consensus. Virtue signalling gets in the way of independent thinking.

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  159. I thought about it for a long while and was only able to come up with two things Trump has in common with Hitler:

    1) People enjoy going to their political rallies

    2) They both think that wars should make a net profit.*

    * Trump uses this as an argument against war while Hitler used it as an argument for it, so that’s not really a very close similarity after all.

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  160. Yes. History is repeating. Like Rome the American republic had been corrupted by a greedy and traitorous minority elite and the only possible peaceful way out is for one of the elite to break ranks.

    They’ll fight tooth and nail to stop him even though their policies are wrecking not just the US but the global economy as well so I’d give him a c. 10% chance to fix it even if he makes it the WH.

    I’d give eventual assassination and gradual descent into civil war c. 70%.

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  161. Is it being reported outside the immediate area – that’s how the electronic gulag works – just don’t report evidence that contradicts the narrative or at least don’t report it nationally – that way ppl only see a local problem and not a national pattern.

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  162. Earlier, I listened to an excellent C-SPAN segment on the Presidential election and trade policy, specifically the Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty. Guest Lori Wallach , Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch Director, explained the reasons for the establishment’s delight with the TPP. She followed with a scathing review of the Obama/Hillary/GOPe position.

    Bernie was the hero of the day, sainted for his opposition to bad trade deals. Ms. Wallach offered a dismissive grunt at the mention of Trump’s name because, Trump. Still, a great segment. Public Citizen’s view of the treaty here.

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  163. taunts of, “When Trump is President you’ll have to go back.” She claimed there are “many reports of this.”

    Far fewer, probably, than taunts of “we’re taking over, Whitey”.

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  164. http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/top-arab-american-city-backs-jewish-socialist-man-muslim-ban

    Filtered through truth box: Muslims hate INVADE more than they like INVITE.

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  165. Not sure if you’ve ever seen this paper, Steve: http://qje.oxfordjournals.org/content/117/3/917.abstract.

    It’s relevant to your marriage gap theory.

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  166. no nee for Trump to bring up every instance of Mexicans killing Americans, the people effected realize that Trump is the only politician noticing these crimes….everyone knows Jeb sees acts of love when others see criminals running wild , selling drugs, raping and killing.

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  167. To be fair, Hitler won the Iron Cross for gallantry and got gassed on the Western Front. Not quite “unaccomplished until politics”.

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  168. ” Even were Trump a true believer it’s unlikely he could get anything done on his own. ”

    Many of the laws necessary to “get anything done” are already on the books. He’d merely have to start enforcing them.

    Where there are not applicable laws, he could simply follow Obama’s lead and start scratching out the Executive Orders. Two can play that game. Watching the left try to come up with convoluted explanations of why Obama ruling by fiat was good, but Trump is bad.

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  170. Trying to become a writer for National Review or Glenn Beck?

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  171. Lincoln/FDR

    Two of the top five worst men to ever hold the office. Wilson, Johnson and the other idiot Roosevelt cousin round out the top five.

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