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I once stayed for a few weeks in an apartment complex in the Boston area that had a large number of well-dressed but extremely skinny teenaged girls with supercilious expressions. I finally figured out that one floor of the building was home to a residential treatment center for anorexia.

Anorexia in modern America is a mental illness found mostly in affluent, very competitive females who come from social environments where being fat is a symptom of deplorability. The girls tend to internalize their culture’s and their moms’ prejudice against weight to the point where they are in danger of starving to death.

They look in the mirror at their 85 pound selves and just see FATNESS.

But America has recently developed a new, perhaps complementary mental illness for teenage girls: rapid onset gender dysphoria. A press release from Brown U.:

Brown researcher first to describe rapid-onset gender dysphoria

PUBLIC RELEASE: 22-AUG-2018

Rapid-onset gender dysphoria might spread through groups of friends and may be a harmful coping mechanism, a new study suggests, but more research is needed.

PROVIDENCE, R.I. [Brown University] — For individuals with gender dysphoria, the conflict between experienced gender identity and sex observed at birth produces significant emotional distress. Until recently, it was unusual for a teen to report initial feelings of gender dysphoria during or after puberty without childhood symptoms.

Clinicians have reported that this kind of gender dysphoria is on the rise, particularly for patients whose sex was observed to be female at birth. Additionally, the numbers of adolescents seeking care for gender dysphoria has increased dramatically. It is unknown why these changes are occurring.

This month, a Brown University researcher published the first study to empirically describe teens and young adults who did not have symptoms of gender dysphoria during childhood but who were observed by their parents to rapidly develop gender dysphoria symptoms over days, weeks or months during or after puberty.

“This kind of descriptive study is important because it defines a group and raises questions for more research,” said study author Lisa Littman, an assistant professor of the practice of behavioral and social sciences at Brown’s School of Public Health. …

Linda Littman is a brave woman. A lot of the transgender mania of the last few years appears to be driven by the parents of unattractive children who accept whatever their kids, usually their daughters, tell them at face value.

The study was published on Aug. 16 in PLOS ONE. Littman surveyed more than 250 parents of children who suddenly developed gender dysphoria symptoms during or after puberty. She said she wanted to better understand the phenomenon, which seems to be on the rise, but had been considered atypical even just a few years ago. …

The children of the parents surveyed were more than 80 percent female at birth and ranged between 11 and 27 years old at the time of survey, with an average age of 16. Additionally, 47 percent of the children were reported as academically gifted, and 41 percent expressed a non-heterosexual sexual orientation prior to their gender dysphoria symptoms. Most of the parent respondents were female, white and U.S. residents.

In the 90-question survey, Littman asked the parents about each of the eight indicators for gender dysphoria in childhood that are detailed by the American Psychiatric Association. To meet the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria in childhood, a child needs to experience at least six of the eight indicators. Most include readily observable signs, such as a strong rejection of typically feminine or masculine toys and games, and strong resistance to wearing typically feminine or masculine clothes.

I’ve known since he was a little boy a fellow who now is heavy into being a drag queen. This is no surprise since he was a drag princess as a 3 year old. As a little boy, he just loved girls’ toys and girls’ clothes. That’s who he is and has always been.

But recently our society has seen a whole lot of moody 14 year old girls who were normal 8 year old girls suddenly tell their parents that they’ve always been a boy on the inside.

Eighty percent of the parents reported observing none of these indicators in their children before puberty.

Among the noteworthy patterns Littman found in the survey data: 21 percent of parents reported their child had one or more friends become transgender-identified at around the same time; 20 percent reported an increase in their child’s social media use around the same time as experiencing gender dysphoria symptoms; and 45 percent reported both.

If I’m interpreting this correctly, 66% of parents reported that their child had one or more friends who became transgender-identified around the same time their child did.

The pattern of clusters of teens in friend groups becoming transgender-identified, the group dynamics of these friend groups and the types of advice viewed online led her to the hypothesis that friends and online sources could spread certain beliefs.

Examples include the belief that non-specific symptoms such as feeling uncomfortable in their own skins or feeling like they don’t fit in– which could be a part of normal puberty or associated with trauma — should be perceived as gender dysphoria; the belief that the only path to happiness is transition; and the belief that anyone who disagrees with the teen is transphobic and should be cut out of their life.

“Of the parents who provided information about their child’s friendship group, about a third responded that more than half of the kids in the friendship group became transgender-identified,” Littman said. “A group with 50 percent of its members becoming transgender-identified represents a rate that is more 70 times the expected prevalence for young adults.”

I bet anorexic girls have a similar tendency to have anorexia prone friends.

Additionally, 62 percent of parents reported their teen or young adult had one or more diagnoses of a psychiatric disorder or neurodevelopmental disability before the onset of gender dysphoria. Forty-eight percent reported that their child had experienced a traumatic or stressful event prior to the onset of their gender dysphoria, including being bullied, sexually assaulted or having their parents get divorced.

Perhaps in 1990, these poor girls would have responded to their parents’ divorce by becoming Goths and dressing like Robert Smith of The Cure. But now transgenderism is the solution for the adolescent blues that is recommended by our society and is picked up on by conformist teenage girls

This suggests that the drive to transition expressed by these teens and young adults could be a harmful coping mechanism like drugs, alcohol or cutting, Littman said. …

So transgender “transitioning” is like cutting, except instead of a DIY project of putting minor scars on your arms when you are feeling down, you get your parents’ health insurance to pay tens of thousands of dollars to have experts cut you up permanently.

Or perhaps transgenderism can be viewed as the flip side of anorexia. The girls who are naturally skinny and competitive about being beautiful are in danger of going crazy in a manner in which they starve themselves because they think that will make them more attractive to boys than the other girls.

Fortunately, our society has realized that this is a bad thing and tries to discourage these girls.

On the other hand, perhaps the girls who feel like they don’t have what it takes to compete with the pretty, slender, potentially anorexic girls now are encouraged by our culture to give up and suddenly declare themselves to be boys and demand drugs and surgery.

Unfortunately, our society hasn’t yet realized that this is a bad thing and our culture continues to encourage these poor girls to have themselves expensively mutilated.

 
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  1. “But recently our society has seen a whole lot of moody 14 year old girls who were normal 8 year old girls suddenly tell their parents that they’ve always been a boy on the inside.”

    Maybe trannyism is the new goth. But instead of black clothes, black eye makeup and weird hair, it’s hormone tampering and elective surgery. Not a healthy progression.

    It might be a pathology, but what it boils down to is an obsessive need for attention at a point in time where young people are desperate to not be just like everyone else. And foolish parents enable all of it.

  2. markflag says:

    Hysteria has been a feature of teen-age girls since the Salem Witch Trials. There are other examples to be sure but I don’t live too far away and thus think of Salem whenever driving through. It is known to be infectious within the group as per several other hysterical fainting and school illness events over the past few decades. The difference today is that unlike anorexia which is generally seen as bad (and lethal) this has to do with aberrant sexuality which is seen as desirable by too many segments of society. The “born this way” argument is now reaching the absurd with pedophiles exculpating themselves because it is part of their make up.

    The most hilarious line in the article is “gender identity vs. sex observed at birth.” MF.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  3. eah says:

    …but more research is needed.

    Yes, OK, “research” — “LOL” — not on the public dime please.

    You know, “research” doesn’t really seem to mean today what it used to mean, and I think most of the blame for that is on junk female academics.

    New Real Peer Review

    • Replies: @njguy73
    , @eah
    , @anonymous
  4. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    You’re exactly right. And with this and some other varieties of transgenderism, there is usually a comorbidity with depression and other psychiatric conditions, so that gives you a hint right there.

    Michael Bailey, professor at Northwestern who wrote The Man Who Would be Queen, still recommended, and who was ganged up on by outraged autogynephilic transsexuals, as described in Gallileo’s Middle Finger, by Alice Draper, has also been studying this rapid onset stuff and writing about it in online forums.

    Finally, Lisa Marchiano, a therapist who wrote on it and thus became an inadvertent nexus of discussion, has written for Quillette about rapid onset.

    https://quillette.com/2017/10/06/misunderstanding-new-kind-gender-dysphoria/

    https://quillette.com/2018/03/01/transgenderism-social-construction-diagnosis/

    Groups of teenaged girls in close association have always been highly vulnerable to mass psychogenic conditions, but the difference here is that the girls are not in the same school or on the same sports team, but rather connected virtually. The implications of that are disturbing.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  5. Mad cows disease on the rise.

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  6. Transgenderism surprisingly despise human sexual diversity because almost trans-people can’t accept themselves as androginous/ LGBT, they have a binnary perspective about sex just like conserfs.

  7. Arclight says:

    I have had this very conversation with my neighbor, who has two high school aged girls as well as older kids who passed through high school before the current transgender craze. He observed that the number of students who identify themselves as transgender in the last couple of years is out of all proportion of their supposed presence in the population, and he any other parents basically feel it’s an attempt at getting attention for most of these teens. Also noted is that unlike the goth fad, a teen who says they are transgender *must* be taken at face value and to question it is to invite all sorts of condemnation from school administrators and some parents.

    It seems bizarre, but we are at a place where our cultural overlords insist that massive does of hormones and surgical mutilation to make someone into a facsimile of the opposite of their biological sex is considered ‘treatment.’ I can’t help but think that in the not too distant future it will be considered a grotesque mistake, not that it will be any comfort to the thousands of people who undergo gender reassignment surgery.

  8. IHTG says:

    M2F seems to be the more publicly visible type of transgenderism these days, though.

  9. I am reminded of the Salem Witch hysteria, but updated for our Bizzaro Current Year zeitgeist.

  10. Cererean says:

    I’ll put more stock in their claims if they base them on questionnaires of the teenagers themselves, rather than their parents. Do you seriously think parents know everything about their children?

  11. Just FYI: I know someone whose daughter is most likely part of this trend. I would like to send a direct link to your blog post but I won’t because Mein Kampf is sitting right there on the homepage in the “Featured Book” section. I’ll send a link to the Eureka Alert article though. Thanks for that.

  12. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Yeah – in this society, it’s the difference that matters. Not making a difference = not existing.
    Therefore, it’s not that scary for young girls to risk to starve themselves to death via anorexia, because death is at stake anyhow.

  13. … perhaps the girls who feel like they don’t have what it takes to compete with the pretty, slender, potentially anorexic girls now are encouraged by our culture to give up and suddenly declare themselves to be boys and demand drugs and surgery.

    I have thought the same thing for a while now, but you said it much better than I could. A decent sane society would not allow, almost encourage, this confusion anymore than it would allow the mentally ill to live on the streets.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  14. a) “Linda Littman is a brave woman”. b) “A lot of the transgender mania of the last few years appears to be driven by the parents of unattractive children”.

    a) & b) are true (even with my italics).

    It’s a major discovery for kids to realize, that they are in the lesser attractive or even unattractive basket. Especially since ours is an utterly vision-driven society – at least on its surface.

  15. NickG says:

    Naah…. it’s penis envy.

    • Replies: @Kyle
  16. Remind me again why we gave the vote to a sex so prone to hysteria?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  17. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:

    The good news is that most are kids of liberals. Don’t like the idea of any kids getting their heads screwed up intentionally by society but if it’s gotta be anyone it’s best that it’s the kids of those actively promoting it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  18. Anon[254] • Disclaimer says:

    OT/

    Here is Matt’s census tract: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/14000US11001005001-census-tract-5001-district-of-columbia-dc/

    Matt “Polar Bear” Yglesias lives in a neighborhood with a 79% college graduation rate . For Comparison, Palo Alto has an 80% college graduation rate, and Boyle Heights (90033 zip code) has a 9% graduation rate.

    • Replies: @Fred Boynton
    , @Altai
    , @Forbes
  19. “parents of unattractive children who accept whatever their kids, usually their daughters, tell them at face value.”

    The gene pool is not amused by this parenting strategy.

    • Replies: @Marat
  20. @Dieter Kief

    Yeah not really.

    The unattraction comes by osmosis from the wicked out parents.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  21. Congratulations Steve, you’ve cracked the code on this “transgender” mania.

    Naturally, the Big Media will make every effort to ensure your solution never sees the light of day.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  22. @Almost Missouri

    BTW, if the Trump administration wants to do one easy thing to break the Left’s chokehold on normal America, it would simply remind the big social media monopolies that their “curating” of content ends their safe harbor exemption from liability under the DMCA. This would involve making a half dozen polite but firm phone calls to silivalley CEOs: maybe one morning’s work for a senior DOJ attorney, maybe Jeff himself.

    It’s been said here before that the Dissident Right’s only political weapon is the truth: calling things by their true name. By allowing the Left to suppress, shadowban, delete, and banish those who speak truth, the administration is allowing the Left to disarm its only real opponent.

    For the Dissdent’s Right’s part, they could start mounting the lawsuits that would get the tech monopolies’ safe harbor exemptions questioned in court. These are fairly straightforward arguments by modern legal standards.

    • Agree: Autochthon, Forbes
  23. slumber_j says:

    I’ve known since he was a little boy a fellow who now is heavy into being a drag queen. This is no surprise since he was a drag princess as a 3 year old.

    My nephew was like that, and it used to freak my brother-in-law out when his son would be trying on my sister’s high heels. I thought my brother-in-law was being ridiculous–clearly it was just transitory like everything else etc. etc.

    Well, he was right and I was wrong: that nephew was openly gay by age 15. He’s one of the good gays at least, and a very pleasant person.

    And no penis-inverting for him. So far that’s reserved for my wife’s family who just reuned last weekend for my father-in-law’s 80th birthday, which led to my having dinner three nights ago opposite the grotesquely clownish countenance of “Aunt Edith”–formerly Uncle Bill. The problem is that I don’t like talking to crazy people, which made me feel rude.

    At least he or she is no blood relation to any of us except for the poor daughter of that union: she’s sweet, but the whole business drove her a little crazy too.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  24. “Rapid-onset gender dysphoria”…. Additionally, the numbers of adolescents seeking care for gender dysphoria has increased dramatically. It is unknown why these changes are occurring.

    Yeah, I wonder why? Clinicians, if you hire them, they will come. Business is business.

    “This kind of descriptive study is important because it defines a group and raises questions for more research,” said study author Lisa Littman, an assistant professor of the …

    No, it’s important for getting tenure. Grant money doesn’t grow on trees, you know.

    Eighty percent of the parents…

    What do you mean parents Kemosabe? I think you mean Moms. These girls would be so much better off with Dad around to demonstrate common sense by example, to tell them when they are being silly and conformist (“Just because your friend LaTonya is gonna go apeshit at McDonalds and get arrested, that doesn’t mean you have to go apeshit at McDonalds and get arrested”. It used to be about the Golden Gate bridge, but times change, and I digress a lot…). The Moms will jump at every People magazine article that refers to studies that purport to tell them how to raise their daughters.

    I saw already the stat about 48% having large stress in their lives including divorce, but how many never had a Dad around before the stress and the study? I’d like to know that number.

  25. When I was growing up in the sixties out in the hinterlands, surely not that many girls thought they were ugly, or were ugly. Very few were fat, and fat then = mildly chubby now. A girl could be “cute,” which meant feminine and ok-looking, without being beautiful or even sexy, which wasn’t required anyway to attract boys, or >a< boy, which was all anybody wanted anyway. Perhaps my memories are distorted; my mother quoted Thornton Wilder and told me I was "pretty enough for all practical purposes," and I got plenty of attention, although I wasn't a beauty queen. But the homeliest girl in our class got married. The new cruelty of the internet is part of this. I see girls everywhere who have "given up," and gone the hideous purple hair route, and some of them could be attractive girls if they just tried, but that's considered bowing to the patriarchy now.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  26. George says:

    Mass psychogenic illness is a sign of the times.

    Mass hysteria may explain ‘sonic attacks’ in Cuba, say top neurologists

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/12/cuba-mass-hysteria-sonic-attacks-neurologists

    US diplomats in Cuba and China felt no shame inventing a damaging diplomatic incident.

  27. @Dieter Kief

    “It’s a major discovery for kids to realize, that they are in the lesser attractive or even unattractive basket.”

    Yes, and usually that discovery happens in junior high or senior high school. Which is why so many people hate those years – that’s when they first learned their true worth in the sexual marketplace.

    Now, what most people also learn sooner or later, is that one can significantly increase one’s value through good choices: i.e. work out regularly, dress nicely, act professionally, be courteous, get a better job, wear reasonable makeup (for women), etc.

    Rather than sitting around envying those who won the genetic lottery, young people should be taught that they can – to a meaningful extent – increase their own sexual standing simply by developing good habits. But the parents of the kids in this study don’t know or don’t care, apparently.

    An unattractive kids in high school do not have to spend the rest of their lives pretending they are actually the opposite gender.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  28. Thomas says:

    350 years ago in Massachusetts, being hexed by witches was the old anorexia / transgenderism. In short: no community should ever pay that much heed to whatever the heck happens to be going on to teenage girls at that moment.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @njguy73
  29. I’ve known since he was a little boy a fellow who now is heavy into being a drag queen. This is no surprise since he was a drag princess as a 3 year old. As a little boy, he just loved girls’ toys and girls’ clothes. That’s who he is and has always been.

    I mostly agree with this, Steve. However, some girls just don’t learn how to be girly very well (maybe Mom was too embarrassed to help) even if they do like boys. I think that can turn out OK. That’s if they don’t get turned on to this gender-bender stuff. They may not ever know how to look sexy, talk sexy, and drive guys wild, even if they are decent looking. Lots may get married later than most girls. Others may go the other way …

    For boys, however, I don’t know too many blatantly effeminate boys who didn’t end up (or, turns out, always have been) gay. There are some guys who just sound effeminate, but that’s often just a low-country Southern accent, and, once you know the guys, you realize that.

  30. Perhaps in 1990, these poor girls would have responded to their parents’ divorce by becoming Goths and dressing like Robert Smith of The Cure.

    LOL!That was a good one, and all I’ve ever seen of the band was an album cover on CD (Best of the Cure, perhaps?)

    However, you’ve got to know that AEN has a video in mind for EVERYTHING. This is from a group that none of y’all seem to know, but I did embed them in relation to a post about The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner (that’s the album name from The Ben Folds Five) back 1/2 year or so. Ben Folds was a real piano man, like a latter-day Billy Joel, and the other 2 members of the Ben Folds 5 did a great job too.

    Here’s the line: This should cheer you up for sure,
    see, I’ve got your old I.D., and you’re all dressed up like the Cure.

    from The Battle of Who Could Care Less off of Whatever and Ever, Amen*.

    The lyrics are hilarious, and don’t worry that they’re dated… they were dated at the time of songwriting. I’ll just put ‘em all in:

    Do you not hear me anymore?
    I know it’s not your thing to care.
    I know it’s cool to be so bored.
    It sucks me in when you’re aloof.
    It sucks me in, it sucks, it works.
    I guess it’s cool to be alone.

    Will you never rest?
    Fighting the battle of who could care less.
    Every day you wake up late.
    Sometimes I wish I was that way.

    You think Rockford Files is cool.
    But there are some things
    that you would change if it were up to you.
    So think about your masterpiece,
    watch the Rockford Files and
    call to see if Paul can score some weed.

    Do you never rest?
    Fighting the battle of who could care less.
    Unearned unhappiness,
    that’s alright, I guess.

    I’ve got this great idea.
    Why don’t we pitch it to the Franklin f**king Mint?
    Fine pewter portraits of General Apathy and Major Boredom,
    singing “whatever and ever Amen.*

    Oh well, maybe not, I’ll try again
    This should cheer you up for sure,
    see, I’ve got your old I.D.
    And you’re all dressed up like the Cure.

    You never rest
    Fighting the battle of who could care less
    Unearned unhappiness
    You’re my hero I confess.

    .

    * Nice reference here to the country song title For Ever and Ever, Amen

  31. @Thomas

    We’re in our current mess because expressing this sort of common sense became a firing offence in recent decades. Even a backwater, private radio station has to worry about saying anything that would offend the most precious creature on Earth: the female consumer. The poor SOBs trying to hold onto one of the few remaining media jobs have to continue to play by those rules. The rest of us get to talk online like normal human beings. That might be how the West manages to pull itself out of this civilisational death spiral.

  32. Unfortunately, our society hasn’t yet realized that this is a bad thing and our society continues to encourage these poor girls to have themselves expensively mutilated.

    Our society is one thing, but the Feral and sack-hanging local governments are quite another. Parents, psychiatrists, 12-step program leaders, etc. can dicusss this latest stupidity, and I see nothing wrong with that. Once governments get involved, as they have, things are much worse. Imagine being a Dad and having to fight not only your precious daughter whose life may be screwed up forever if you don’t straighten her out, but having to fight Big-Ed at her middle school too!

    Here’s hoping some of the young adult women who have been hoodwinked into destroying parts of their bodies due to this current government-induced gender-bending stupidity decide to class-action sue the US Feral Gov’t into oblivion…. or whatever it takes to make them hole again. (Yes, pun intended… I’m a pundit, so lay off!)

  33. Lurker says:

    One difference – no one ever thought anorexia was a good thing, whatever it’s cause. Whereas being a tranny is now the greatest thing that ever happened to anyone. Ever.

  34. You leave Robert Smith out of this, Sailer!

  35. @Lurker

    You have a disturbing point.

  36. Lurker says:
    @Arclight

    to make someone into a facsimile of the opposite of their biological sex

    And a very crude facsimile at that.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  37. But recently our society has seen a whole lot of moody 14 year old girls who were normal 8 year old girls suddenly tell their parents that they’ve always been a boy on the inside.

    At the same time that our elites keep telling us there’s no psychological difference between men and women, that women want to work in tech and be Army Rangers just as much as men do, they also tell us that we must indulge a woman who says he feels like a man. How can a woman “feel like a man” if women feel the same way about everything as men? What would that feeling be like?

    Norm Macdonald put it like this: “The one question I had [for Jenner] is, what’s a woman? She couldn’t answer it. That’s what I find most confusing about it. It’s a woman trapped inside a man’s body. Then, what’s a woman? And he had no answer. Or she, rather. You get in trouble for pronouns. She had no answer for what a woman was because women like to pretend that women and men are the exact same.”

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @kihowi
    , @Forbes
  38. @Dieter Kief

    “It’s a major discovery for kids to realize, that they are in the lesser attractive or even unattractive basket.”

    I think that this possibility drives a major portion of middle-school age anxiety.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  39. 41 percent expressed a non-heterosexual sexual orientation prior to their gender dysphoria symptoms.

    You have to wonder how much of the FtM phenomenon is butch lesbians becoming absorbed by their fetish, believing that they can swap out the strap-on to become a real boy who has real sex with women. There’s a lot of anxiety in lesbian circles about the use of an artificial phallus in their sex acts. Do they just want to become the anatomically complete (but not really) butch lesbian?

  40. HI says:

    “Among the noteworthy patterns Littman found in the survey data: 21 percent of parents reported their child had one or more friends become transgender-identified at around the same time; 20 percent reported an increase in their child’s social media use around the same time as experiencing gender dysphoria symptoms; and 45 percent reported both.”

    So transgenderism is literally a meme.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  41. @Dieter Kief

    attractive people are not only visually attractive but also in a olfactory, acustic and haptic way. Nobody with good looks would be considered as attractive without smelling good or having a nice voice.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  42. They are both dysmorphias; humoring transsexuals is roughly akin to allowing anorexics to starve themselves to death or honoring the wish of sufferers of Cotard’s Delusion who wish to be fed into a crematory alive

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  43. anonymous[360] • Disclaimer says:

    Anorexia has been normalized with Veganism and “Organic food” cultism.

  44. @Arclight

    I can’t help but think that in the not too distant future it will be considered a grotesque mistake, not that it will be any comfort to the thousands of people who undergo gender reassignment surgery.

    Revolutionary Jewish psychiatrists/psychologists never pay for their evil deeds. The bastards who caused the day-care sex abuse hoaxes of the ’80s are still practicing medicine and therapy today, or are happily retired.

    Those hoaxes/quackeries, and today’s trans surgeries on kids, are part of the glorious revolution against White patriarchy.

    The WSJ’s Rabinowitz put together a fine investigation of the ’80s hoaxes, but went easy on the (mainly Jewish) doctors and therapists. If she suggested any consequences for them, she didn’t insist on them or try to start a drumbeat.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Forbes
  45. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Note, even in the quoted publication, the needless, clunky “sex observed at birth” and “female at birth” gibberish.

    “Linda Littman is a brave woman” because we live in cowardly times.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  46. @slumber_j

    It’s very difficult. Recently, a childhood friend declared he was becoming a woman. It’s impossible to feel much other than frustration and anger. I assume the decision was made in consultstion with some psychiatrist–some evil hack with no real knowledge of the patient’s childhood.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
  47. @Lurker

    No one ever thought anorexia was a good thing

    I dunno… Gay fashion designers seem to like it.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  48. Paul McHugh, former director of the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science at the John’s Hopkins University, shut down the university’s gender identity clinic and put a stop to gender reassignment reassignment surgery of juveniles. “This is child abuse. It’s like performing liposuction on an anorexic child.

    He added that “It is a disorder of the mind. Not a disorder of the body. Dealing with it this way is not dealing with the problem that truly exists.”

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @e
  49. Pericles says:
    @Arclight

    Also noted is that unlike the goth fad, a teen who says they are transgender *must* be taken at face value and to question it is to invite all sorts of condemnation from school administrators and some parents.

    I assume there later on will be massive lawsuits against the medical system, the educational system and other involved parts of government too. How much did the Catholic church pay for its home-pedo priests? How much does the police pay to a ghetto lottery winner?

    Now imagine a payout based on deliberate surgical and hormonal mutilation of a child because of some sick fad. Multiply by number of victims.

    Looking forward to the downcycle.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  50. kihowi says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Similarly: Why even “transition”?

    We’ve established that men and women can wear whatever clothes they want. There’s no no typical male or female behavior. Either sex can have either body; men with vaginas, women with penises.

    So…what needs to change? Can’t you just be a woman with a male body, male clothes and male behavior? Why would you change into something that isn’t any more male or female than what you already are? Why do “transitions” always end in an outdated gender role?

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
  51. MBmb says:

    Sounds like transsexuality is a contagious self-harmful behavior, like cutting, tattoos, piercings, self-mutilaton, and many others (I’d include drug abuse and homosexuality here).
    Some are more harmful than others and are accordingly better rewarded by modern society.
    Society no longer celebrates achievement, on the theory that nobody is better than anybody else and achievement is a mark of “privilege”. On the other hand, self-harm is authentic and the mark of “true” suffering.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  52. Anon7 says:

    Distinguished psychiatrist Paul McHughes watches the pendulum swing back in sex reassignment surgery, which he halted for 25 years at Johns Hopkins:

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.baltimoresun.com/health/bal-johns-hopkins-transgender-20170406-story,amp.html

    He sees trans as a mental disorder similar to anorexia:

    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

    • Replies: @Lot
  53. eric says:

    If you look at the depression & suicide stats, gender dysphoria is clearly a symptom of mental problems. I think Steve’s right that it’s merely the latest fad for troubled kids to try to avoid the eternal rat race, and unfortunately, adults are actually encouraging it. This is where Jordan Peterson is really helping, by telling the kids to grow up, get discipline, etc., which is much more beneficial advice than telling them they are now wonderful new victims.

    • Replies: @PNWmossback
    , @PNWmossback
  54. Pericles says:
    @Dieter Kief

    It’s a major discovery for kids to realize, that they are in the lesser attractive or even unattractive basket.

    Well, there’s a lot that one can do to improve one’s chances. In fact, it might be easier than ever to just stay away from the obviously bad routes.

  55. GAY CHEMICALS IN THE WATER

    • Replies: @Kyle
  56. kihowi says:

    I think it’s a “tax on poverty”. It’s always sound strategy for the rich to make fashionable what they can live with but what is disastrous to the rest.

    On some level they realize that they can afford handicapping themselves with voluntary disfigurement and mental illness. They can afford life long psychiatry, expensive treatments, surgery after surgery. And generally, when you’re rich, everything is easier, including being messed up.

    But if you’re not well off and you’ve ruined your body and mind and you enter your fourties…that’s it. Only suicide remains.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  57. I have to wonder if part of this increasing tranny phenomenon/ trend, at least among white kids, is partially some desire (conscious or not) to acquire victimhood points, and thereby increase social status. Kids/ teens of today have been marinated in all-encompassing Hate Whitey propaganda for their entire lives. Also, the media and mainstream society have gone all in on lauding transgenderism. It’s understandable that a white kid, who has been consistently gaslit to feel guilt over his very existence (or at least has some understanding that white = bad), might see declaring himself trans as a way to claim oppression, and therefore seem ‘good’ and ‘moral.’ Heterosexual, normal white people are obviously inherently bad and evil; being trans is one of the few options to shake off those shackles and become part of our noble coalition of victims.

    Transgenderism/ pronouns, and the now 90+ categories of gender identity, seem like just the kind of non-academic nonsense that the public schools adore wasting kids’ time with.

    • Agree: Dtbb, Mr. Rational
  58. Tyrion 2 says:

    Is Transgenderism the New Anorexia?

    Yes.

    Speak to sufferers of either and it is easy to feel the similarities.

    Just as the focus of paranoia is shaped by cultural concerns so is the focus of OCD related mental issues.

    The really un-PC point is that so too a degree is a lot of sexuality.

    The direction of flow goes: mental issue gets shaped by culture into anorexia, and so on for the other examples.

  59. I bet anorexic girls…

    Call me a stick-in-the-mud, but neither “transgender” nor “anorexic” are real words. One is from academia, the other from the tabloids. Not that there’s much difference these days.

    The proper term is anorectic, which none but the dyslectic should have a problem with.

    Pardon the pedantry, but such abuse of the Greek always leaves me apoplexic.

    • Replies: @DFH
  60. njguy73 says:

    You tax something, you get more of it.
    You subsidize something, you get less of it.

    You tell Black people that Black is ugly, they’ll want to pass for White.
    You tell White people that White is ugly, they’ll want to pass for Black.

    You tell Women that their gender is inferior, they’ll act like Men.
    You tell Men that their gender is inferior, they’ll act like Women.

    You tell Atheists that they’re wicked, they’ll act Religious.
    You tell Religious People that they’re wicked, they’ll act Atheistic.

    You tell people “You Can’t Be Too Thin,” they’ll starve themselves.
    You tell people “You Can’t Be Too Fat,” they’ll gorge themselves.

    Being told you’re ugly, inferior, wicked or not enough is taxing.

    • Replies: @njguy73
  61. This is why transgenderism should be suppressed and treated as the pitiful mental illness it is. The media treats it as the new hip thing and now it’s ruining teenagers’ lives.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  62. Jason Liu says:

    In other words kids are stupid and should have decisions made for them by their parents. Not always, just most of the time. Long live paternalism.

    PS tumblr is turning your daughter into a tranny

    • Replies: @Lowe
  63. njguy73 says:
    @eah

    Elese Dowden: “I’ll bet you I could get anything published.”

    Colleague: “OK, how about a paper that includes the words ‘existential’ and ‘Kardashian’ in the same sentence?” (laughs)

    Elese Dowden: “Please, I could do that in my sleep.”

    Colleague: “I got fifty bucks that says you can’t.”

    Elese Dowden: “You’re on, my friend.”

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Mitchell Porter
  64. @eric

    The rapid expansion of the trans movement immediately said “fad” to me. I agree with the assessments that this is a poor coping mechanism for the stresses of puberty and the requir

  65. @Cagey Beast

    … because Mein Kampf is sitting right there on the homepage in the “Featured Book” section.

    Gasp! The horror! People might be exposed to the thoughts — good or bad — of one of the most influential figures of the 20th century! Can’t have that!

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Lowe
  66. njguy73 says:
    @Thomas

    In short: no community should ever pay that much heed to whatever the heck happens to be going on to teenage girls at that moment.

    Right now, the human race is dominated by an empire which pays heed to teenage girls and little else.

    And the empire pays heed to everything about teenage girls except for one aspect:

    How to get them to want to be adult women.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  67. @kihowi

    So…what needs to change? Can’t you just be a woman with a male body, male clothes and male behavior? Why would you change into something that isn’t any more male or female than what you already are? Why do “transitions” always end in an outdated gender role?

    Its not about that. It never has been. It’s about power.

    The goal is to use power to force another human to say something that is false: to make him say “you are a man” when he looks at a woman, because he is afraid to do otherwise. The goal is to wield that kind of power over others.

    What could be better in life? Conan understood this.

  68. MW says:

    According to Gary Taubes, in pre-war Germany anorexia was treated not as a mental disorder, but as a hormonal imbalance. He claims that regular insulin injections were vastly more effective than today’s efforts at treating the purported mental illness.

    I know nothing else about the topic, and Taubes has a tendency toward advocacy over science, but it’s an interesting way of looking at things.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  69. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight

    “…a teen who says they are transgender *must* be taken at face value and to question it is to invite all sorts of condemnation from school administrators and some parents.”

    In Canada they take your mentally ill child away from you if you insist upon the child waiting until adulthood for any formal treatments.

    For anyone who want to carry on in the traditional ways of family, culture, and morality- it appears the U.K. is the least free country on earth with, Canada a close second.

    Who is third?

    • Replies: @Lowe
  70. LondonBob says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Jeff is too busy helping Rod go after Duncan Hunter, Collins, Manafort, Cohen and anyone else remotely involved in supporting Trump whilst ignoring the whole Obama spying thing, as well as prosecuting elderly folks growing weed in their garden. Trump, who knows?

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Autochthon
  71. @Lurker

    One difference – no one ever thought anorexia was a good thing, whatever it’s cause.

    Not necessarily true… in Medieval Europe, anorexia mirabilis was often considered an indication of sanctity. Like modern anorexia (but unlike many other medieval forms of asceticism), it seems to have been found almost exclusively among females, who would sometimes end up starving themselves to death. From the Wikipedia article on Catherine of Siena:

    This extreme fasting appeared unhealthy in the eyes of the clergy and her own sisterhood. Her confessor, Blessed Raymond, ordered her to eat properly. But Catherine claimed that she was unable to, describing her inability to eat as an infermità (illness). From the beginning of 1380, Catherine could neither eat nor swallow water. On February 26 she lost the use of her legs. Catherine died in Rome, on 29 April 1380, at the age of thirty-three,[29] having eight days earlier suffered a massive stroke which paralyzed her from the waist down.

    • Replies: @Indiana Jack
  72. e says:

    This is about control. Teenage girls seek to control. The weaker the girl feels, the more likely she is to grab ahold of any new fad and make it a tool to control parents, siblings, society.

  73. Zumbuddi says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Thoughtful of you.

    Better the kid should have her — is that the correct pronoun? — body mutilated and chemistry poisoned than be exposed to a book title.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  74. @eric

    Let’s try this again. I was twice dropped while typing.

    The rapid onset of the trans phenomenon immediately called out “fad” ro me, too. But it also said “power trip,” as a means of coping with the stresses of the transition into adulthood. On the campus, it’s an in-your-face expression of identity. “You can’t deny me or shut me up.” And it does seem to involve the unattractive or seriously maladjusted.

    But what about the MTF transitions? Do the same avoidance mechisims apply? I’ve observed that a lot of the MTF transitions (or at least the ones getting killed) involve POC. Is this an indication that the race card is largely played out?

    And the parents pushing non-gender child raising or actively changing the gender identity of a two or three year old child – Munchausen by proxy?

    There’s a lot of room for serious research here.

  75. JimB says:

    Transgenderism is also the new Münchhausen by Proxy syndrome. Liberal mothers love the attention they get for having a transgender child.

    • Agree: Corn
  76. eah says:
    @eah

    junk female academics

    • Replies: @Lowe
  77. Lot says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Goths could be a type of hysterical contagious depression the same way gender dysphoria is contagious and hysterical.

    Among adult women, we also have gluten problems all of a sudden plus “chronic fatigue” and “fibromyalgia.”

    I think the term Goth however only replaces “freak” as the name for depressed black wearing teens a bit after 1990. Maybe 1994? I’d say it peaked circa 1999, though was still going strong enough that South Park added goth children as characters in the 2010s.

  78. MBmb says:

    There was always a payoff for girls and women wiling to wear corsets, spend hours putting on makeup, undergo plastic surgery, wear ridiculous and partly disabling fashions, and so on.
    The practice of foot-binding was a manifestation of the same tendency. Significantly, it wasn’t men who most resisted its abolition, but women who had already undergone it (just like for female genital mutilation).
    For men this sort of dandyish status-seeking was rather the exception, but it’s not unheard of.
    As society becomes more and more artificial, as one’s social status is more and more based on others’ perception instead of one’s accomplishments, it pays much more to present a polished image than to actually do something. It also pays to go to ever more outrageous extremes to differentiate oneself and be seen.
    The artifices of theater or dandyism pale by comparison to those of Hollywood and television and now Photoshop and Facebook and Instagram. Everyone seemingly has the opportunity to achieve the perfect image, to become an Internet model and get followers and money. But achieving the perfect image is also a goal onto itself. Some people are more motivated and go farther in this quest, that’s all.

  79. Bah! Humbug! Trannyism is a silly fad. Not to be taken seriously.

  80. Rosie says:

    On the other hand, perhaps the girls who feel like they don’t have what it takes to compete with the pretty, slender, potentially anorexic girls now are encouraged by our culture to give up and suddenly declare themselves to be boys and demand drugs and surgery.

    Gen Xers rebelled against beauty obsession, too. We called it “grunge.”

    Jeans, tee shirt, flannel layer, vans. Done.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Brutusale
  81. Lot says:
    @Anon7

    The males who strongly want to be and act like females consistently from childhood to age 20 should be allowed hormones and surgery by that point. For every one of them, there appears to be many more for whom it is a passing phase or a symptom of other mental issue that should be treated directly.

    This was the consensus and rule from about 1970-2005, but then highly accomplished and aggro late life masculine trannies with an extreme sexual fetish for lesbians then took over the issue.

    What is interesting is that in most cases, the bewildered middle aged wife and mother of his children stays married to the late-life trans-lesbo.

    • Replies: @Anon
  82. I don’t know why my comment about chemicals with mental effects in public utilities was removed. So it must be repeated, for the sake of posterity and better glory of Alex Jones:

    GAY CHEMICALS IN WATER

  83. Anonymous[659] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight

    I can’t help but think that in the not too distant future it will be considered a grotesque mistake, not that it will be any comfort to the thousands of people who undergo gender reassignment surgery.

    A mistake? Oh yeah! About like the Chinese foot-binding craze of the 19th century. Ever seen any documentaries on that? Those poor women were mutilated so bad that they could hardly even walk. Still, it was then widely believed in China that this would somehow make them more ‘marriageable’.

    • Replies: @Hallie Scott Kline
  84. Anonymous[659] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, for now. But if they ultimately succeed in making ‘transphobia’ into some sort of crime, then they’ll be enforcing it on us all.

  85. Lot says:
    @Rosie

    I was too young to pay attention to girls then. (Alicia Silverstone was one of the first I remember from Aerosmith videos. Not sure how typical or mainstream she was.)

    What was the cool girl outfit right before grunge that you say grunge reacted against? As in, 1988-1993. Pics?

    I vaguely remember jean jackets and overalls with one button loose. Also, big hair but a bit less curly than 80s big hair.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  86. Rosie says:
    @Nomennovum

    Remind me again why we gave the vote to a sex so prone to hysteria?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @AnotherDad
  87. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    The males who strongly want to be and act like females consistently from childhood to age 20 should be allowed hormones and surgery by that point

    By age 20 they are adults and can do whatever they want. But the pattern is that most boys who wear their mother’s shoes as toddlers and want to be girls end up as gay men, not transgender. A few end up as straight. A few end up as transgender. Michael Bailey gives the data in The Man Who Would be Queen.

    Before “conversion therapy” was mostly outlawed, one treatment was for parents to accept that their boy was probably gay, but not allow cross dressing. There are two types of gay men, masculine gays, and femmes. Femmes in general lead less happy lives than masculine gays (stable relationships are rare, and masculines don’t want them), and there was preliminary data suggesting that simply prohibiting cross dress steers boys to become masculine gays, rather than femmes. So it’s a trade-off of a frustrating childhood leading to a happy adulthood, or a happy childhood (but with bullying, etc., so how happy, really?) leading to an unhappy, lonely femme adulthood. But that approach is illegal in many states now, child protective services territory.

  88. @Rosie

    Gen Xers rebelled against beauty obsession, too. We called it “grunge.”

    Jeans, tee shirt, flannel layer, vans. Done.

    Jeez, you’re not even original in your rebellion, are you? All of these were at Woodstock, and some in the Andy Hardy movies years before.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  89. DFH says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Greek is ὀρεξισ so the correct transliteration is a ‘z’. You are the Greek abuser.

  90. @Rosie

    Finally, someone who agrees that Warren Harding was much better than Woodrow Wilson!

  91. @Anon

    I’m going to guess that Fatt Matt’s foreign born neighbors work at their country’s embassy rather than working as maids, lawnmowers and leaf blowers. They keep those people (maids and gardeners) in the designated suburbs.

  92. Anon[267] • Disclaimer says:

    Interestingly, the trans community tried to get the journal to spike this research, after the abstract was published last year:

    Tannehill subsequently posted the article to the Facebook page of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH). A discussion ensued in which some commentators asked WPATH leadership to request that the journal retract the abstract. “So is something being done?” wrote one commentator. “As in are is the Journal being asked to make a statement to retract or apologize for including it?” Psychiatrist and WPATH board member Dan Karasic, MD responded simply. “Yes.”

    It seems that the Elders of Trans world police are losing their mojo, and World War T may be hitting some bumps in the road.

    https://quillette.com/2018/03/01/transgenderism-social-construction-diagnosis/

  93. Brilliant!

    I would normally jjibe but I know it is coming for my country too.

  94. Off topic. Was just listening to NPR and my mind began to wonder…hmm, why isn’t the media screaming that Trump is a white nationalist for that tweet about S. Africa? So I’m thinking, perhaps, it’s a story they want to ignore because the facts are better left unknown. Literally 5 seconds later NPR brings up the tweet, but rather than describe what’s going on–i.e. property dispossession by the SA govt based on skin color–the NPR reporter described the land grabs as “land reform”. Problem solved!

  95. clyde says:

    Bring in Dr. Sigmund Freud….he would have a field day with the transgenderism of today/ Adult, teen and 6 year old onset. What would he think of the autism in Silicon Valley leaders?

  96. dr kill says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I’m with you, in fact, I’d like to see body ink and piercings allowed at age 12. It would make it easier to decide who to allow your children to hang out with.

    • LOL: backup
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  97. Rosie says:
    @Lot

    I’m afraid I don’t have that fine-tuned of an understanding of fashion to narrow it down like that, but here’s what I remember of eighties fashion:

    Early eighties: horrific “bilevel” haircuts with heavy makeup, like the chick in this Journey video. You could call it butch glam.

    Mid eighties: streetwalker glam.

    Late eighties: preppy glam. Big hair and tight-rolled pants with dainty footwear like flats or less. Imagine rocking that look with oversized milkers! Not a good look, at all!

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Redneck farmer
  98. Anonymous[565] • Disclaimer says:

    Perhaps girls who feel like they don’t have what it takes to compete with the pretty, slender, anorexic girls now are encouraged by our culture to give up and declare themselves to be boys

    I’m not sure I follow this:

    1. I am unappealing to boys, so I can’t get a boyfriend.
    2. I will thus change into a boy myself.
    3. [Step 3 is what is throwing me]
    4. Boys will turn homo and will ask me out? Girls will want to date me and twiddle my surgically constructed mini-penis between their thumb and forefinger?

  99. I had the impression that anorexia had more or less gone out of style in large part because the media got bored with it and/or lost sympathy for it. Are there still girls going anorexic at the rate they were in the early 2000s (or whenever the peak was)? I very rarely see skinny much less anorexic girls but often see morbidly obese girls, but that just may be me and/or my part of the country (Upper Midwest).

    If anorexia has largely ended and the girls who would have gone anorexic are now going tranny, it may only end when people and/or media loses interest/sympathy for these girls.

    As far as girls going tranny when another friend does, I’ve heard the same thing about divorce. When one member of a group of female friends gets a divorce others will as well. Women are conformists by nature; when one marries/divorces they all want to marry/divorce.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Corn
  100. Anonymous[659] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Transgenderism the New Anorexia?

    Good eye, Steve! Now that you mention it, I have to admit that haven’t heard anyone–either in person or in the media–use the words ‘anorexia’ or ‘bulimia’ in many, many years. Whatever happened to that? Did it really just vanish without a trace?

    I found this very disturbing:

    The pattern of clusters of teens in friend groups becoming transgender-identified, the group dynamics of these friend groups and the types of advice viewed online led her to the hypothesis that friends and online sources could spread certain beliefs.

    Examples include the belief that non-specific symptoms such as feeling uncomfortable in their own skins or feeling like they don’t fit in– which could be a part of normal puberty or associated with trauma — should be perceived as gender dysphoria; the belief that the only path to happiness is transition; and the belief that anyone who disagrees with the teen is transphobic and should be cut out of their life.

    Mind: this is not just a bunch of kids egging each other on, as was the case with anorexic girls back in the 80s. On the contrary, this time around, there seems to a concerted movement–even a certain organizational infrastructure–out there devoted to evangelizing in favor of ‘transgenderism’. Young people are being encouraged to turn against their real families and to become members of a new “glitter family” instead:

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/01/26/synanon-the-brainwashing-game-and-modern-transgender-activism-the-orwellian-implications-of-transgender-politics/

    Truly frightening!

  101. “Linda Littman is a brave woman.”

    Lisa. Linda Littman sounds like the name of every boomer’s first girlfriend.

    More seriously, I wonder if there isn’t a simple solution to this problem. Beat the fucking shit out of them.

    No, really – and I am opposed to corporal punishment for any child under the age of 14. Dead set against hitting little kids.

    But teenaged girls (and boys) who want to “change sex”? A sound beating might do the trick. While recovering the hospital they can do some serious reflection.

  102. Sentinel says:

    Kipling’s hive Oddities proliferate.

  103. DFH says:
    @DFH

    that’s to say ‘z’ with ‘ts’ sound

  104. Forbes says:
    @Arclight

    Also noted is that unlike the goth fad, a teen who says they are transgender *must* be taken at face value and to question it is to invite all sorts of condemnation from school administrators and some parents.

    An attitude that seems no different than (now-outlawed in many places) gay conversion therapy–because self-identity is the be-all and end-all of one’s existence, morality, and the truth of the cosmos (or whatever was the gibberish that Justice Kennedy wrote in PP vs Casey).

    A couple years ago, I met a nurse who worked at the NYU health clinic who told me her job was to hand out hormone treatment pills everyday to these “confused” students. It struck me as a horror show with real life implications.

    Spiking suicides and drug ODs to follow…just as misery follows unhappiness…

  105. @Zumbuddi

    Read my comment more closely, please. I said I was planning on forwarding the original article Steve linked to above. I’m simply not sending a direct link to this blog post because the Mein Kampf link on the homepage would seriously hamper the effectiveness of the article on its own if my goal is to convince or assist another person in particular to change her opinions.

  106. @Cloudbuster

    I didn’t invent the world, I just live in it. I already made a comment supporting Ron Unz’s decision to keep the link to Mein Kampf up:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/circulating-for-years-on-the-margins-of-conservatism/#comment-2461393

    … I’m just letting people know how I experienced the downside of the decision in a small way.

  107. Marat says:
    @Desiderius

    For decades, Betty/Veronica competition looked pretty functional, on the face of it. Adolescent anxiety never looked so good! Then along came drugs, then anorexia, soon followed by latent discovery that one was gay, and now we’re at transgenderism …

    As for anorexia, it’s by no means a given that the body can completely recover once organ damage commences, but if successfully managed in time is generally reversible.

    Unfortunately, becoming gay is so Spring 2015. It’s reversible and no longer pushes the envelope, after decades of agitation/awareness. Society has already been conditioned to fully embrace it (hat tip Justices for long overlooked discoveries within the Constitution).

    In contrast to the above, the au curant transgender conundrum requires massive community and societal involvement with zero data on long term health effects. Parents have been “ism”-conditioned to volunteer their children as lab rats, with schools threatening/backing it every inch of the way. Finally, our medical and scientific communities have been sufficiently brow-beaten to accommodate the problematic cognitive dissonance within their ranks. Not to worry, the federal government will help them see the light. “Progress!” as Hillary would shriek.

    Each of these illnesses requires more resources, greater societal intervention, and leads to permanent physical (and possibly mental) changes that preoccupy a young person during crucial social developmental years. Besides unknown permanent developmental damage, the children are completely missing out on the normal youthful role-playing experiences that lead to successful life as a female or male adult. Since this is consistent with destroying the family units of Western civilization, this trend will likely be deemed a “keeper” by the “elite”. Think of it as a high risk investment on neutering middle class progeny.

  108. Altai says:

    I find the plots of gender and age over time reporting to transgender clinics to be highly compelling.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  109. In the 90s, depression was the cool girls fashionable illness – with books like Prozac Nation etc. Probably the inevitable result of the self-absorption of rich girls with nothing to think about except themselves. Anorexia and transgenderism are from the same vein.

    You can see this attitude in the documentary Dirty Girls (who “haven’t washed since Cobain died”). The most revealing thing they talk about is how their housekeeper and shrink gave them some clothes, as if that’s a completely normal thing:

  110. M_Young says:

    ““This kind of descriptive study is important because it defines a group and raises questions for more research,” ”

    This is a very important point. Scientists, including human and social scientists, have gotten so enamored of null hypothesis testing and research programs which fit into that paradigm — or worse, model building divorced from any empirical data — that the ‘natural history’ aspect of larger science has been almost forgotten.

  111. OT:
    A Canadian member of Parliament just split from the cucky Conservative Party over the issues of diversity and multiculturalism, amongst other things:

    Maxime Bernier quits to launch new party, criticizes ‘morally corrupt’ Conservatives
    OTTAWA
    PUBLISHED AUGUST 23, 2018

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-maxime-bernier-to-make-announcement-ahead-of-conservative-convention/

    Why I Am Leaving the Conservative Party of Canada

    http://www.maximebernier.com/why_i_am_leaving_the_conservative_party_of_canada

  112. OT:

    Hi @KarenAttiah, I'm a crop scientist & this is right on the money. Working on a book about ties between white supremacy and bad farming. Would love to talk. DM me?— Dr Sarah Taber (@SarahTaber_bww) August 23, 2018

    Because crop yields quadrupled on lands the Mugabe regime seized.

    • Replies: @Kyle
  113. Perhaps in 1990, these poor girls would have responded to their parents’ divorce by becoming Goths and dressing like Robert Smith of The Cure.

    Surely you mean Siouxsie Sioux. I imagine Smith was more of an inspiration for the male Goths.

    Perhaps its no accident that the most famous film about an ftm transexual is named after a Cure song?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_Don%27t_Cry_(film)

  114. Altai says:
    @Arclight

    I think it’s a symptom of out atomised and managerial world. Principals, teachers can’t do anything, they don’t feel they’ll be supported. Meanwhile the transgender infrastructure is in place. The parents face a psychologist who has the latest DSRM infront of them saying that this is the proposed diagnosis and proscribed treatment. Here’s a bunch of official forms to sign, the pharmacist and doctor see the forms and are compelled to service this imperative.

    Nobody wants to take responsibility for any of this and the ones who might are hamstrung by a lack of togetherness and assumption that there will be some support.

  115. anon[386] • Disclaimer says:

    Milo Y. had this take a long time ago, noted the similarity in pathology and the huge difference in approach to treatment.

  116. The difference is no one ever says to someone suffering from anorexia, ‘You’re right, you could stand to lose a few pounds. Let’s schedule you for a gastric bypass.”

    People who actually believe they are the sex they are not very often, and understandably, suffer from terrible distress, and their suicide rates derive from this, rather than society’s refusal to acknowledge their ‘true’ sex. These are sad people who deserve our sympathy, but only suffer from our indulgence: “You mean I’m right?? I really am a woman???”

    For some reason, the intensity of their belief is supposed to be evidence of its veracity. As if someone who thought he was Napoleon should be believed if he really, really thinks he’s Napoleon.

  117. Altai says:
    @Anon

    But does Matt actually interact with any of those immigrants and their communities or does he, infact, interact less with them. I’m pretty sure Yglesias is either severely Autistic or Schizoid (Every single picture of him looks like a person with some level of Schizoid personality.) He doesn’t talk to them, he doesn’t interact with them. They are abstractions who much prefer to keep themselves with friends from the same ethnicity. But this doesn’t occur to Matt because he isn’t capable of feeling this fellow feeling or missing it. He doesn’t understand how living in a world with lots of transient outsiders is taxing on a normal human’s soul.

    He’d turn the whole world into a Starbucks if he could. It’s why I prefer Starbucks-American as a term for these coastal progressives. He doesn’t see an old Oak tree or building and think it’s something to preserve.

  118. (lisa littman), probably.

    her married name, not sure what her original name was. her husband is obviously one of those (guys) of course.

    also steve you have a typo in your article. lisa littman, not linda littman.

  119. Why is this surprising? The US is primarily a culture of consumers driven by deficiency, exploited by way of envy and validated by mutual indulgence. Reduce economic utility while undermining the ownership society with endless debt and little Billy (or Billie) starts looking for something else to differentiate and define the self, at least until all the little Billie’s can’t give Mom&Dad a more entertaining holiday season.

    For those that have gone over to the dark side, the trend dovetails perfectly with eugenics, dissolution of family and population control, but I’m sure the real money in this country isn’t giving up their offspring to some long-lasting, irreversible rehash of peer pressure and teen angst.

  120. eah says:
    @njguy73

    Elese Dowden: “You’re on, my friend.”

    Elese Dowden: “Hold my beer.”

  121. Forbes says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    But recently our society has seen a whole lot of moody 14 year old girls who were normal 8 year old girls suddenly tell their parents that they’ve always been a boy on the inside.

    If the 14-year old told her parents she was Napoleon–they’d get her mental health counseling. Apparently some forms of attention seeking by 14-year old girls has a fine grained distinction between reality and fantasy/imagination.

    It strikes me that (many/most) parents are entirely absent in all this because they’ve outsourced parenting to schools, social media, and the degenerate culture at-large. Personal discipline, as in developing good habits regarding work/study/play balance, the reward of diligence and effort, time & place behavior, etc. by all appearances is entirely absent. “Do your own thing.” The results are participation awards as substitute for achievement (no child left behind) and the self-esteem brigades puffing up adolescent egos as a substitute for accomplishment, i.e. earned success.

    Parents don’t engage with their kids because they’re just as otherwise distracted as their kids (TV/games, social media, work/school & friends). Helicopter parenting is merely the rampant scheduling of kids lives as a substitute for child-parent engagement. Ferrying kids around in the minivan isn’t spending time with them–that’s a taxi service.

    These parents seem to conclude, “Well I turned out fine, so what’s the problem?” We all remember our childhood, but children are notoriously unaware of their own parenting–except when getting in trouble. As if parenting is effortless. As if kids raise themselves without guidance, supervision, teaching, in passive and active forms.

    The result is children/adolescents who are socially adrift and easily adopt fads and fashion of the moment–conformity, peer pressure/social compliance, or outrageous outcast. And for the most part, the adult world is facilitating dysfunctional behavior–because it’s not harming anyone, and besides, it’s none of your business.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Corvinus
  122. MBlanc46 says:

    If it means that they won’t be feminists, then it’s a good thing. Maybe some will even become MGTOW (well, sort of).

  123. Forbes says:
    @Anon

    I’m surprised Matt can see past the end of his nose for his lack of self-awareness. He apparently thinks the rest of America looks like his census tract–can’t imagine it otherwise, and doesn’t understand how anyone could see it any differently than he does.

    He’s the poster boy for cluelessness.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  124. @Altai

    Those diagrams are also mentioned in this article, which argues that social contagion plays a large role in teenage transgenderism:

    https://4thwavenow.com/2018/04/08/letter-to-a-gender-clinic-a-parents-call-to-action/

    One of the most interesting graphs shows the rapid increase in the annual number of referrals to the gender dysphoria specialist team at the Astrid Lindgren Children’s Hospital in Stockholm.

    Teenage transgenderism is a fad, like hula-hoops, yo-yos, or hot pants. It should never be treated with hormones or surgery. It is a very bad idea to refer a child (or anyone else) to a clinic that offers only those treatments and nothing else.

  125. “…41 percent expressed a non-heterosexual sexual orientation prior to their gender dysphoria symptoms.”

    Lesbians wanting to be men seems like more than a passing fad to me.

  126. tyrone says:

    Is this the latest “screw white fertility strategy”?…..working …. like the others

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  127. MBlanc46 says:
    @theo the kraut

    Short. Direct. Post of the thread material.

  128. There is no complete “fix”, but it’s easy to eliminate 99% of this:

    Girls get up and have to go milk the cows, then help mom make breakfast. (Boys slop the hogs. Younger kids gather eggs from the hen house.)

    When the girls get home they can start on the mending, and help mom with dinner. Then head out to do the evening milking.

    “Gender disphoria” will pretty much disappear.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  129. @The Only Catholic Unionist

    This is my favorite one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatoparaphrenia

    Somatoparaphrenia is a type of monothematic delusion where one denies ownership of a limb or an entire side of one’s body. Even if provided with undeniable proof that the limb belongs to and is attached to their own body, the patient produces elaborate confabulations about whose limb it really is, or how the limb ended up on their body. In some cases, delusions become so elaborate that a limb may be treated and cared for as if it were a separate being.

    Amputations for mental health.

  130. @Indiana Jack

    After a google search of the topic today, it turns out that something similar. I did find one recent reference to a possibly similar incident 2 years ago in which 13 year old girl in India who died after starving herself to death and was celebrated for her devotion after her death:

    https://scroll.in/latest/818549/hyderabad-13-year-old-jain-girl-dies-after-fasting-for-68-days-hailed-bal-tapasvi

    I think it is likely (as many others have proposed) that anorexia mirabilis amd anorexia nervosa are both essentially the same thing: the tendency for people, especially teenage girls, to starve themselves, has been present throughout history, but that different eras have interpreted it differently. The tendency has existed even in eras when being slender was not the ideal that it is today. The first medical description was by the English doctor Richard Morton in the late 1600′s, Erasmus Darwin wrote of it in the 1790′s, and the term anorexia nervosa was coined to describe the condition by Sir William Gull in 1873.

  131. MBlanc46 says:
    @Almost Missouri

    That’s spot on, but we can be pretty sure that the Trump administration will do no such thing.

  132. Lot says:
    @Rosie

    That last photo looks very 1990/91.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Rosie
  133. @tyrone

    Is this the latest “screw white fertility strategy”?…..working …. like the others.

    Well said. Instead of frothing individually–and usually incoherently–at the various leftist stupidities, i’d like to see at least one “conservative” politician act like he understands the concept of “conserving” and make the obvious connection of all this “progressive” stuff:

    – Jewish “nation of immigrants” propaganda
    – feminism, women prioritize career
    – homosexual normalization
    – “gender” (i.e. a social construct)
    – tranny nonsense
    – blacks don’t have to obey the law
    – DREAMers are our future
    – abolish ICE

    it’s a war on white Western Christian people and their civilization.

    The first two alone–immigration forever and women prioritizing career–are alone mathematically certain to destroy a civilization. (Not “my opinion” but basic 6th grade math.) The rest is piling on–”twisting the knife”.

    But seriously, if “conservatives” are unwilling to call the whole lot out for what it is–an attack on their race and civilization, it’s very legitimacy and right to exist–then it’s hopeless. You can’t win if you don’t fight.

    • Agree: MBlanc46, Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  134. this isn’t a fad at all guys. it has no relation to anorexia. which, nobody ever saw as a good thing. and nobody actively promoted. nobody was shoving barfing, concentration camp stick figures into kids books and shows. here, trannys are celebrated. perhaps second in greatness only to open homosexuals.

    it seems odd that steve, one of the best noticers in the world, doesn’t notice that this is just another attack from our (friends). the latest in a long series of direct attacks on obvious normalcy. steve has spent years talking about (them) when it comes to one of their previous, long standing attacks:

    ‘race does not exist’

    steve has discussed at length how (they) have spent decades on this attack. maybe 100 years by this point. steve has been quoting (gould), (lewontin), (boas), and more, then showing why they are wrong. lately he has taken to quoting new entrants into the gambit, such as (reich). maybe he doesn’t frame it in those terms, but the conclusion is inescapable.

    now (they) have opened their next attack front:

    ‘gender does not exist’.

    using their positions of authority to force a top down nationwide change in the culture. just like (they) eliminated christianity from the public sphere with a decades long effort, and are currently brainwashing young undergrads like mollie tibbetts that european men are the problem with this planet.

    but somehow, steve is not catching on to it. yet.

    of course normalizing homosexuals, then transexuals, is not exactly a new attack. (they) have been working on this for a while, but it’s reached mainstream currency at this point, and this is the moment of the main thrust of their attack.

    the brown professor has fired the opening salvo. it will become academic orthodoxy that gender does not exist, just as race does not exist. eager, not quite as smart educrats will begin absorbing the new orthodoxy. the direct attack idea will spread by acolytes from there, and move outwards, making the transition from academia to the mainstream. ‘authorities’ on the subject will be quoted ad nauseam, just as incorrect critics of the bell curve were invoked reflexively for decades. in 15 years time, it will be common knowledge that gender does not exist. in 2030 dissenters opinions have long been ‘debunked’ by oft quoted (experts). it’s a statement of obvious truth that women have penises, and men have front holes.

    all in an effort to eliminate identity. identity of the defending group. so that they do not defend. indeed, they don’t even have an identity, so how could they group together to defend something…that doesn’t exist.

  135. @Fred Boynton

    As far as girls going tranny when another friend does, I’ve heard the same thing about divorce. When one member of a group of female friends gets a divorce others will as well. Women are conformists by nature; when one marries/divorces they all want to marry/divorce.

    The female divorce cluster thing is one of those things that proves the point about men and women not being the same and more precisely the nature of those differences.

    You simply don’t see male divorce clusters. Men are certainly affected by the overall social sanction associated with divorce. More men, obviously, toss their marriages than in say 1960. (Probably with a lot of justification–female behavior is worse.) But you don’t see a guy tossing his marriage because someone in his friend group did. “Oh, Joe tossed out Cindy.” Maybe a guy thinks “What took him so long?” or thinks “Cindy’s no great shakes, but Joe should look in the mirror”. But his evaluation of his own wife is independent.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  136. OT:
    Here’s a Canadian girl who’s not spiralling down the the drain. Funny how the street scenes in her video cannot have been filmed in London because she’s banned from there. It’s likely Austria:

  137. L Woods says:
    @AnotherDad

    My understanding is that gender differences naturally become more pronounced with greater economic development. Another way in which feminism is regressive and stultifying to human progress.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Cagey Beast
  138. Ragno says:

    2013:

    Clinicians have reported that this kind of gender dysphoria is on the rise, particularly for girls.

    2018:

    Clinicians have reported that this kind of gender dysphoria is on the rise, particularly for patients whose sex was observed to be female at birth.

    How could something like this come to be?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  139. I’m reminded of Camille Paglia, who notes that at the end of all civilizations there’s a culture of gender confusion and reduced masculinity. Our neighbor, an ivy-league educated lawyer, is raising her son “with no gender.” She even asked me if I was doing the same. Unprepared for an onslaught of craziness over Sunday brunch, I muttered something about being a “scientific sexist,” or something or other, and that killed the conversation. If she brings it up again – or if anyone does – I won’t be so passive aggressive.

    Paglia is right; it’s just another sign that we’re at the end.

  140. @Paul Jolliffe

    unattractive kids in high school do not have to spend the rest of their lives pretending they are actually the opposite gender.

    Worse yet, unattractive kids in high school do not have to spend the rest of their lives pretending they are actually unattractive members of the opposite gender.

  141. @Cagey Beast

    Ok, I understand–especially in this feminized day and age of absolute compliance to the narrative and “triggering” and “microaggressions”, that “featured” to a lot of normie (females esp.) means “agree with”.

    But seriously it seems to me that Mein Kampf is pretty much required reading if you’re going to get into these arguments about the origins of the War and the Holocaust. I am no such scholar. I’ve read all of about ten books on the War–with Shirer’s book which i read back in the 80s providing a lot of the “infrastructure” for me, and i’m aware that it’s garnered a lot of criticism. Most of the rest of the stuff i’ve read is more military history–even specific incidents like Halsey’s typhoon–or the wrap up, Potsdam, the plans for invading Japan and decision to drop the bomb.

    I’m more interested now in stuff critical saving Western civilization. The way the War was spun into anti-Western, anti-white propaganda, the nature of our crisis, etc.

    But if i–or anyone–was seriously going to engage with the history of the War–what was really motivating Hitler, Stalin, Churchill (Chamberlain, Halifax), Roosevelt, the Japanese war cabinet, Chiang Kai-shek, Mao, etc.–why did they make the decisions they did, i don’t see how you do that without reading Mein Kampf.

    • Replies: @Lot
  142. The big difference between anorexic girls and tranny/dykes of today is that so many of the anorexics and bulemics were actually pretty. They got caught up in the fashion magazine world and aspired to be models themselves. The tranny/dykes I’ve seen, and I live near Ann Arbor so I see a lot of them, are universally uglier than my dog’s ass.

    Another thought is that I find men who chop off their penis absolutely hilarious and see no reason to discourage the practice. It’s as if they have conveniently tattooed their foreheads, “I’m an insane carnival freak!” to help us in quick identification. And really, why shouldn’t we view the homely/fat chicks who do the same thing in the same light? The problem isn’t that they do it, it’s that the rest of us forget to laugh out loud whenever we see them..

    It’s akin to seeing a guy with a giant proboscis pontificating about foreign policy on TV right? You can immediately tune out knowing in advance he will be advocating using your money and your kids to fight his wars against Mohamsters. I see a man in a dress (whether he’s lopped off his skin flute or not) and I know nothing he says will be worth hearing (except as comedy). I see a fat ugly chick with blue hair and it’s deja vu (not to be confused with the strip club chain where they have thousands of hot naked chicks + 3 ugly ones – another gift from Motown) all over again.

  143. Corn says:
    @Fred Boynton

    “I had the impression that anorexia had more or less gone out of style in large part because the media got bored with it and/or lost sympathy for it. Are there still girls going anorexic at the rate they were in the early 2000s (or whenever the peak was)? I very rarely see skinny much less anorexic girls but often see morbidly obese girls, but that just may be me and/or my part of the country (Upper Midwest).”

    That’s a good point. I wonder if anyone keeps stats on anorexia and whether or not anorexia rates have gone down, up or stayed stable. I agree you don’t seem to hear as much about it as you did 10 or 20 years ago.

  144. Cortes says:

    Congratulations on writing such a terrific article!

    Thanks.

  145. @AnotherDad

    you don’t see a guy tossing his marriage because someone in his friend group did

    Indeed, but as hive minded as women are, they’re equally cliquish and vicious toward other women in a way men aren’t. My friends and I are brutal toward one another hurling commentary Steve would whim in an instant, we will even slug one another, attack and body slam one another, etc, but it’s all hilarious and we will do it again tomorrow. Guys we don’t like we mock and move on. But women get it in for a member of their sex and the bloodlust is real. They may all watch the same insipid nonsense movies, but the pure hatred of a hot small breasted chick for a mediocre silicone enhanced chick is palpable. And nowhere is this dynamic more obvious than on a beach..

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Corn
  146. Stuff like this is why I am rooting for Russia and China.

  147. Rosie says:
    @Lot

    That last photo looks very 1990/91.

    You’re probably right.

  148. @Forbes

    Excellent comment Forbes.

    I’ll only tack on that a core problem here is social media. The first obvious problem–it sucks up cycles uselessly, heightens social anxiety, is hyper-fast pushing reaction/drama/conformity rather than reflection/discipline/moral-character.

    But also it cuts out parents. Essentially you give a kid a cell phone and Zuckerberg–of all people!–is now raising your kids. Or Zuckerberg, Hollyweird’s gay Jews plus all their teenage friends. Not exactly who you want raising your kids.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  149. Rosie says:
    @Lot

    Compare:

    So much better!

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Unzerker
  150. Also OT:

    08/23/2018 04:46 PM EDT
    Sen. Richard Burr, chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee, said he will not accept Google sending Kent Walker, its senior vice president of global affairs, to testify at a hearing on election security on Sept. 5.
    “They’re not doing that,” the North Carolina Republican told reporters in the Capitol. “I told them I wasn’t accepting the senior vice president.” A committee source confirmed Burr’s remarks were accurate but could not provide further details on negotiations with Google.
    Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey are testifying at that hearing, meant to focus on foreign efforts to use tech platforms to meddle in U.S. elections.
    Google had said it would send Walker rather than CEO Sundar Pichai. Although the panel requested that Pichai appear, Walker is the best person to answer congressional questions on the topic, Google had said.

    Or maybe Google is afraid their CEO will make immigration realists their own election commercial, by allowing himself to appear on national television as King of the H1Bs.

  151. @Arclight

    Also noted is that unlike the goth fad, a teen who says they are transgender *must* be taken at face value and to question it is to invite all sorts of condemnation from school administrators and some parents.

    This. There are a couple of striking things that have happened in the last decade or so:

    1) The looniness quotient of the left has shot up from “looney” to absolutely “barking ‘effing mad”

    and

    2) They’ve closed ranks and made telling the truth a criminal act.

    ~~

    One of the things that’s bizarre–and scary–to observe is the absolute Stalist style conformity of lots of upper middle class white women to the narrative. They parrot it like holy writ and respond to any questioning–with visible distress and fury–as if they are hearing Satan speak through your voice.

  152. CCZ says:

    With the exception of lesbian feminists (trans-exclusionary radical feminists), we suffer the consequences of an “LGBTQI…” social media-university-church-psychology-medical and pharmacy industry that manufactures the ADVOCACY of transgenderism. Colleges and universities, churches, and psychologists, psychiatrists and even hospitals operate “transgender support groups” that never question and always reinforce and advocate the legitimacy of almost every individual’s claim to transgenderism.

    “Support groups” exist for both “sexes” and all variants of “gender queer” and “non-binary” adults, teenagers, and children (and their parents) as young as 5 years old. In all my experiences encountering these support groups in schools and churches, I have never heard any psychology professional challenge or question an individual’s claim to transgenderism or suggest that transgenderism is a symptom of some non-gender mental health issue. Indeed, these support groups denigrate any parents that question or challenge a transgender identity and accuse them of abusing their child in seeking to resolve the psychological problems without resort to hormonal, medical, and/or surgical intervention. Any discussion of second thoughts, doubts, or “de-transition” or reversion to one’s biologically determined gender is strictly avoided and even forbidden.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  153. @Rosie

    C’mon Rosie. This is a cute girl with a model figure.

    And for the record, I don’t particularly like skinny jeans. As straight guy I like fashions that highlight women being women. (And most adult women don’t have figures like this gal.)

    That last picture in your 80s spread: I don’t particularly like “the look”, but it’s one where the gal’s womanliness is well highlighted–without looking like a tramp. Most guys would look at her and think–”a tumble would be fun”.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Corn
  154. Rosie says:
    @AnotherDad

    Most guys would look at her and think–”a tumble would be fun”.

    Lol. Is that supposed to be a point in its favor?

    That’s exactly what we were reacting against!

  155. I wonder if anyone has explored the similarities between late in life male to female transgenderism and Cotard delusion.

    If you met someone with Cotard delusion who told you with a straight face that he’s dead, he’s a zombie, he’s a ghost or he doesn’t exist, you would conclude right away that this individual’s thinking is seriously disordered, probably for neurological reasons we don’t have a good handle on yet.

    But we’re supposed to accept at face value the claims of middle aged transgender men that they have always felt like girls on the inside, even if they have records of male interests and accomplishments like male Olympic sports, satellite radio, science-fiction film making, academic economics and so forth, and even after some of these men married women and formed families with them.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  156. @Rosie

    Rosie, this is a fair rejoinder.

    Men are too prone to fighting–to war. There are good evolutionary reasons for this. Men *must* hold–or expand–their territory and women to survive. Not so women.

    But men have initiated far too much fighting even after we got the concept of a nation state–a territory with a people–up and running and particularly after industrial warfare made having a little war to settle some little territorial issue a disastrous policy.

    However, unless you’re absolutely conquered and genocided even the worst of these wars is survivable, while submitting to these cultural stupidities–which too many women embrace–is the sentence of death. Germany in 1945 despite a tenth of their population dead … was still Germany … and in fact quickly rebuilt it’s economy and population. Germany today looks to be finished. This isn’t just “women!”, but women in fact play and outsized role in this disaster.

    ~~~

    As an aside, Rosie, if I could do a redesign, I think there’s a system fair to both sexes that gets at the problem: Neither sex gets to vote! I’d have only married couples eligible to vote–not singles–but only as a couple. Both of them must agree to and sign the ballot. Maybe one vote as just a married couple, another vote when you have a kid, maybe a third vote when you have a third kid (the “breeder” bonus).

    Of course, the left and feminist would hate–with absolute fury–such a system. They thrive on–and absolutely need–the idea that men and women are at loggerheads. The left requires that the votes of a bunch of productive men be cancelled out by their nominal “wives”, whom the left has cajoled–like Satan–to defect, so that they can then win with the votes of the parasites.

    But the fact is civilization actual exists not atomistically, but with men and women together supporting each other, enjoying each other and raising the fruit of that enjoyment to continue civilization into the future.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  157. @Rosie

    Lol. Is that supposed to be a point in its favor?

    That’s exactly what we were reacting against!

    Yeah, right. Which is why some of these same girls spend hours on their hair and put on makeup to give themselves a permanent look of bedroom eyes.

    Hey, i don’t claim to have any insight into the bundle of conflicting emotions that go into women’s–especially young women’s–decision making process about such things. Want to be noticed, am self-conscious, like male attention, don’t want unwanted male attention, want to look androgonous … in a way that makes me look girly, want to be me, want to conform, want to look …

    But i know they don’t actually want to look like boys–as in have men really think they are boys. Most of this is playing against type, precisely to confirm their essentially feminity.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  158. @MikeatMikedotMike

    The next great depression will cure all of these diseases of the rich.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
  159. Rosie says:
    @AnotherDad

    However, unless you’re absolutely conquered and genocided even the worst of these wars is survivable, while submitting to these cultural stupidities–which too many women embrace–is the sentence of death. Germany in 1945 despite a tenth of their population dead … was still Germany … and in fact quickly rebuilt it’s economy and population. Germany today looks to be finished. This isn’t just “women!”, but women in fact play and outsized role in this disaster.

    Here’s the thing. A bunch of dead Germans and a country in ruins provided the pretext for letting in a bunch of so-called guest workers from Turkey. And I’m not sure the women have played a particularly outsized role in the immigration disaster since then either. Ethnic animus has driven pro-immigration animus more than anything else, and many men went along with it for cheap labor. Humanitarian rationales were used to guilt-trip women into acquiescence.

    As for cultural considerations, here again I don’t think women are particularly at fault for this. Men were very much on board with liberalization of norms regarding premarital sex and artificial birth control. Once you’ve severed the connection between sex and procreation, you’re going to have a hard time holding the line against gay liberation. You’ve already conceded that sex is for pleasure and relationships are for personal happiness. It’s all over but the crying at that point. All this woman-blaming seems like a lot of after-the-fact scapegoating to me.

    All that said, I’m not opposed to any of your ideas about suffrage. I don’t actually think women’s suffrage is all that important. I say that because women’s rights were already well-advanced in the West beforehand, which suggests that male voters were already taking women’s interests into account. I think it’s important to bear that in mind for the sake of fairness. The problem is the symbolic affront.

    This is, I think, the best argument against women’s suffrage:

    The left requires that the votes of a bunch of productive men be cancelled out by their nominal “wives”, whom the left has cajoled–like Satan–to defect, so that they can then win with the votes of the parasites

    Malicious elites can use sexual politics to divide and rule the people in their own interests. In my view, the way to prevent this is to not have malicious elites, but I see no great injustice in a family vote.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  160. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    If it were something Hitler wrote as a reflective old man, long retired, then maybe it would have value. But it was a propagandic campaign biography. And a really early one, when Nazis were a very small party, not yet fully controlled by Hitler, and with many prole economic-leftist members.

    Taboos at times ought to be violated when good reasons justify, but in this case the reason seems to be the base and childish pleasure of transgression more than any of the pretexts described above.

    • Replies: @Anon
  161. Rosie says:
    @AnotherDad

    Hey, i don’t claim to have any insight into the bundle of conflicting emotions that go into women’s–especially young women’s–decision making process about such things.

    Well, there. At least you acknowledge that there are, in fact, “conflicting emotions.”

  162. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    As for cultural considerations, here again I don’t think women are particularly at fault for this. Men were very much on board with liberalization of norms regarding premarital sex and artificial birth control. Once you’ve severed the connection between sex and procreation, you’re going to have a hard time holding the line against gay liberation. You’ve already conceded that sex is for pleasure and relationships are for personal happiness. It’s all over but the crying at that point. All this woman-blaming seems like a lot of after-the-fact scapegoating to me.

    FYI

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/28/for-hugh-hefner-gay-rights-were-part-of-the-sexual-revolution/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d90d93a3e1be

    The sexual revolutionaries understood perfectly well that you can’t really oppose gay lib without undermining the whole idea of sexual license: “If it feels good, do it.”

  163. keypusher says:

    I have a teenage daughter, and it’s striking how many kids call themselves transgender without actually doing surgery. If you’re a biological female, you just wear jeans, flannel, cut your hair short and bind your breasts, and everyone else has to switch pronouns. So the consequences of the craze are not so drastic in the majority of cases.

  164. @L Woods

    In “Crazy Rich Asians,” the billionaires’ bachelor and bachelorette parties are extravagantly opposite. The guys shoot shoulder-mounted surface to air missiles and the girls have a boutique of free clothes set up on the beach because there’s nothing rich women like more than free stuff.

    Why? Because they can afford it.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @onetwothree
  165. Brutusale says:
    @Lurker

    One difference – no one ever thought anorexia was a good thing, whatever its cause.

    IIRC, there was a documentary about models and anorexia and one of the models, at a round-table discussion about the problem, looked at a photo of Kaen Carpenter just before she died and commented: “If only you could look like that and not die!”.

  166. @Stan d Mute

    And nowhere is this dynamic more obvious than on a beach..

    .jpgs, or it didn’t happen.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  167. Brutusale says:
    @Rosie

    Uh, no. We did it 15 years earlier in a backlash against the fashion excesses of disco.
    That’s pre-Go-Gos Belinda Carlisle in the middle.
    The Punk and the Poseur.

    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  168. @Steve Sailer

    *The guys shoot shoulder-mounted surface to air missiles*

    Is that seriously in the movie? They stole that straight from the finale of “The Office”.

  169. @markflag

    Hysteria has been a feature of teen-age girls since the Salem Witch Trials.

    Lamentably, our legal system no longer allows us to simply slap them out of it.

  170. @Cagey Beast

    Use a link shortener.  The censors of Big Tech aren’t onto them just yet.

  171. @Almost Missouri

    Reminding them of it won’t work.  You have to file a corporation-threatening suit over it to make the threat stick.

  172. @Reg Cæsar

    Jeez, you’re not even original in your rebellion, are you?

    The stereotype of Gen X was apathy. Invent some new try-hard style? Meh.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  173. @Achmed E. Newman

    .jpgs, or it didn’t happen.

    Ten years in S Fla and not one jpg bro. Why? Cuz I like being married that’s why. But I do own the most reflective polarized shades money can buy!

  174. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    You might tell her to try picketing her municipal library, then. It will give her something to do.

    Anyway with all this talk about MK I decided to give it a read. It is interesting and boring simultaneously; neither interesting nor illuminating enough to get me to do more at present than read a few passages here and there.

    Some of these have been very curious, though.

    I talk about some here: https://www.unz.com/isteve/sarah-jeong-on-the-uva-gang-rape-on-broken-glass-hoax-i-believe-jackie/#comment-2477766

    One of the questions that strikes me is: how honest is AH being about his frames of thought? It seems believable enough but after all this is, supposedly, a propaganda work– furthermore, we are often not quite honest even with ourselves.

    Another thing is: to what extent is AH aware of, or drawing from, cliches current at the time, under the impression they are original thoughts? His description of Vienna cited in the link is a trivial commonplace now: was it then?

    Also UR comments under MK are good.

  175. Forbes says:
    @AnotherDad

    Agreed. Social media is a big concern. It’s a population-wide experiment in interpersonal relations, socialization, information media, entertainment, and communication contained in one medium. It’s an unprecedented development with multiple trade-offs having positive and negative outcomes that cannot be easily anticipated.

    The answer, if there is one, lies with parental engagement with their children, and limiting use, access, etc. just as TV watching, bed times, late night curfews, and other forms of limits parents place on their children–which serve the purpose of teaching children discipline, balance, perspective in their lives.

    Parenting is hard–there are few worthwhile things in life that aren’t. Unfortunately, the path of least resistance is the preferred model.

  176. @L Woods

    The greater the economic development and also the lack of natural predators. Feminism thrives in places where there’s not another tribe who might come one day to cut one’s throat. The earliest feminists developed in places like upstate New York, rather than Bosnia or French Algeria.

  177. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Taboos at times ought to be violated when good reasons justify, but in this case the reason seems to be the base and childish pleasure of transgression more than any of the pretexts described above.

    Well, I’ve just posted a comment about some interesting aspects of the work. But in general I agree with you that, other than for historians (and, apparently, your co-ethnics, like Ron Unz) it does not seem much worth reading.

  178. @DFH

    Greek is ὀρεξισ so the correct transliteration is a ‘z’. You are the Greek abuser.

    Me, or the medical community for much of the 20th century? Their Greek is worse than the supermarket tabloids’?

  179. Forbes says:
    @JudyBlumeSussman

    That’s a little harsh on Dorothy Rabinowitz.

    She was very nearly the lone voice pushing back against prosecutorial abuses and misconduct, miscarriage of justice, mob/mass hysteria, recovered memories, and other nonsense–and you want to indict her for not having insisted upon appropriate consequences for the malfeasance.

    I wonder, on what basis does a private individual highlight a problem with the justice system, and trigger reparations from the culpable parties?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  180. Lowe says:
    @Cloudbuster

    People he knows in real life might think he’s a Nazi. Do you live in real life? Visit?

  181. @Rosie

    Some guys like the gamine sort. They’re usually English.

  182. @Forbes

    Dorothy Rabinowitz of the WSJ was a rare voice of sanity during the nursery school satanist witch hunts.

  183. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ragno

    People who knuckle under to this gibberish are the emperor’s new haberdashers.

  184. Forbes says:
    @Stan d Mute

    All I can remember thinking about Twiggy is that a woman–a model for that matter–without breasts isn’t a woman to whom I’d be attracted. So it had to be the first of many passing fads–which it mostly was.

    Of the other hand, I was too young/naive to know that gay male designers wanted female coat hangers to model their fashion designs.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  185. Forbes says:
    @CCZ

    It’s what the “helping professions” have turned into–not unlike the “diversity and inclusion” racket. So-called support groups are advocacy organizations that have learned from the Jesse Jackson “shake down” model. They provide jobs for people serving “disaffected groups,” the funding of which serves as a first line of defense against protests, boycotts, and potential lawsuits regarding discrimination. The entire edifice of sensitivity training workshops gets another expansionary boost from ethnic/racial bias, to hostile environment/sexual harassment, and now to gender identity and “transphobia.” The social welfare funding model from government, foundations, corporations serves to give jobs to sociologists and gender studies credentials.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  186. @Rosie

    As a guy, I disagree with you on the last picture. That’s a great way for an endowed woman to dress!

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Rosie
  187. Pirelli says:
    @Lurker

    Right, I think the anorexia analogy is an interesting and useful one, but it doesn’t capture the whole picture.

    One thing that’s always struck me about transgenderism, and it’s something Steve addresses in this post, is that we’re dealing with multiple different phenomena here.

    On the one hand, you have children who from a very young age, for whatever reason, display preferences and characteristics more commonly associated with the opposite sex. For these, it strikes me that saying they *really are* the opposite gender is simply a capitulation to prevailing gender norms, not a revolt against them. Why not just say, “he’s a boy who’s always liked girly things,” and leave it at that? When I try to point out how the idea of “gender transition” ironically serves to reify existing gender norms to my progressive friends, they seem mystified (and they usually love the word reify!).

    Then you have the adolescent “rapid onset” types. A relative who is a teacher at an all girls’ school says it’s becoming a real problem; you have entire friend groups declaring that they’re trans, genderqueer, etc., and demanding to wear mens’ clothing instead of the traditional girls’ uniform. For these, the anorexia analogy works best, although as you say there’s the difference that anorexia was never considered a good thing.

    Then you have the older men, for whom (as has been much discussed on this site) it seems to be a kind of mania with strong sexual undertones. They were often very masculine and aggressive younger in life (and remain aggressive post transition). These I would also say have a mental disorder of some sort, but I’m not particularly concerned about the harm they’ll cause themselves by surgery and hormone treatment. They’re adults. For the kids it’s much more concerning.

    Anyway, great post and comments.

  188. @oddsbodkins

    We used to deal with it by going to The Mall. There are few miseries that trying on a new outfit or a different lipstick can’t alleviate, even if you can’t afford to buy. In addition, guys not from our school would hit on us, reminding us that popularity within a limited circle may be a marker of status rather than level of physical attractiveness.

    It helped us survive until the time when the braces came off, the skinnies filled out, the chubbies dropped some of the puppy-fat, the skin cleared up, and to our shock, it turned out we weren’t so bad-looking after all.

    Seriously, who wants to peak in Middle School?

  189. Forbes says:
    @advancedatheist

    some of these men married women and formed families with them.

    Bruce Jenner fathered six children, two each with each of his three wives.

    The Chicago Pitzker family has a male heir that Steve has written about–retired Army Lt. Colonel, now Jennifer. Fathered three children between two wives.

    Economist Donald McCloskey became Dierdre in 1995, at age 53. Fathered two children.

    FWIW.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  190. anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @eah

    These researchers just keep beavering away …

    There’s a Disturbing Link Between Women Posting Sexy Selfies And Income Inequality

    BY CARLY CASSELLA

    AUGUST 23, 2018

    Every day when we go online we are bombarded by sexy selfies. From pouting duck lips to emoji underwear, sexualised social media posts are on the rise in many parts of the world.

    But while many assume that sexualised portrayals of women are a product of gender inequality or oppression, the truth could have more to do with female competition and advancement. A new study has found that female sexualisation is not, in fact, linked to a culture of female oppression – where women are treated, and treat themselves, as sexual objects. Instead, it appears that women could actually be unconsciously using their sexuality as a strategy against income inequality.

    “So, when a young woman – perhaps your own daughter – adjusts her bikini provocatively with her phone at the ready, she probably isn’t worrying about succumbing to the patriarchy,” says co-author Khandis Blake, a gender psychologist at the University of New South Wales in Australia.

    “Our sexy selfies research, including in-depth case studies in the lab, suggests she is probably feeling empowered, assertive and in control.”

    Pulling together more than 68,000 sexy selfies from Twitter and Instagram, the researchers pinpointed the geographic locations for each picture. The researchers then gathered data on gender-inequality and income-inequality in the 5,567 US cities and 1,622 US counties identified.

    [yadda, yadda, yadda ...]

    Far from being a self-obsessed, narcissistic act, the researchers suggest that appearance may be one way for women to improve their lives in environments where few other avenues exist.

    “Telling young women to stop posting sexy selfies is like asking them to forgo the pot of capital that youth bestows on them, even though they know its value diminishes with time,” argues Blake. The study has been published in the Proccedings of the Nat’l Academy of Sciences.

    Executive Summary: you’re sitting on a goldmine sugar.

  191. @Lot

    You can recuperate from a Goth phase. The hair grows out, the black nail polish chips off. Hopefully, you won’t have got any stupid tattoos or piercings in that time.

    Gender dysphoria surgery is a tad more permanent.

  192. @Forbes

    The guy I dealt with a lot in my class at UCLA’s B-School fathered a bunch of kids before becoming the “highest paid female CEO” in the country.

  193. @Steve Sailer

    Dorothy Rabinowitz of the WSJ was a rare voice of sanity during the nursery school satanist witch hunts.

    Dorothy Rabinowitz of the WSJ was the only voice of sanity during the nursery school satanist witch hunts.

    Fixed it for you,

    • Replies: @ex-banker
  194. @Forbes

    Agreed. Just like Head Start, it’s just a big jobs program.

  195. @Rosamond Vincy

    Exactly – that was kind of my point but I didn’t lay it out like that, so thanks.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  196. @dr kill

    Ha – yeah. Well give it about 3 more years, parents will be jailed for trying to stop their 12 year olds from getting a tattoo.

  197. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The stereotype of Gen X was apathy.

    Apathetic cynicism, but yeah, that’s us. That’s what you get growing up when the adults around you are more childish and stupid than you are. None of the Boomer bullshit was true so what did any of it matter? Russians! Impending nuclear holocaust any second! Hide under your desks from the russkie nukes! Ice age coming, we’re all gonna die! Affirmative Action Yay! Busing Yay! They gave us Fumbles Ford, Caricature Carter, Amnesty Amnesiac Reagan, HW Deep State, Clintoon the Raping Charmer … What’s the point of caring when imbeciles and criminals are in charge and you have no say?

  198. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale

    Seven to three Joan is the real inspiration for “Love at the Pier”. D admits to mussypunching but never named names. Still, anyone who saw the old Mutant Monster Beach Party can see the sapphic serenity.

    Why Chris waited as long as he did to move on who knows.

  199. Lowe says:
    @Jason Liu

    How will parents make decisions for their kids, when they are themselves stupid? Going along with transgenderism is proof of their stupidity.

    The takeaway may be, try to be less stupid, if you plan to have kids.

  200. Corn says:
    @Stan d Mute

    “They may all watch the same insipid nonsense movies, but the pure hatred of a hot small breasted chick for a mediocre silicone enhanced chick is palpable.”

    Ever hear heavy women talk about thin women? Boy they don’t like “skinny bitches”.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Brutusale
  201. Lowe says:
    @Anonymous

    Has this ever happened? The state takes someone’s child away from them… to give them hormone injections?

    It is hard for me to believe. Some of parents would try to kill someone who tried that, badge or no badge.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  202. @Cagey Beast

    Dude,

    Let’s cut to the chase here. You don’t have to send a link to the HOME PAGE whereon the link to the abominated Mein Kampf appears; amazingly enough, through the wonders of cursor/keyboard magick, you can send a link to THIS POST ONLY. Awesome!

    Wanna know how? Hover your cursor over the address and click until the entire address is highlighted. Next, depress the CTRL key, and while that key is still depressed, simultaneously depress the “c” key. This records the address to this post – AND THIS POST ONLY – to the clipboard of your computer. Now, open up an email addressed to your acquaintance, and drop that address – again, for further emphasis, the address to THIS POST ONLY, and not to the home page wherein the offending link to Mein Kampf is visible – into the body of the email in the following manner. Click on the body of the email to insert a cursor, and then depress the CTRL key, and while that key is still depressed, simultaneously depress the “v” key. Magickally, so to speak, the URL for THIS POST ONLY will now be inserted into the body of the email, and the recipient, through the simple expedient of left clicking on that URL whilst hovered over it, can open a link to the webpage that is for THIS POST ONLY.

    This is a simple workaround that will succeed in transmitting the post-specific URL without incidentally searing the eyeballs of your acquaintance with the hated title, Mein Kampf. It’s there for the taking, so why not try it instead of, like some harpy of the left, insisting that you must have your way, or you will pout and stamp your little booted foot on our faces endlessly?

    You’ve been spamming up the threads with your campaign against the text of Mein Kampf being accessible at unz.com for some little while, and it is become tedious through this mindless repetition. This site is devoted to the principle of free access to original source materials (many of these no doubt “controversial” to some) and to the discussion of these materials under the principle of open debate. Avail yourself of these materials or not, sort of like the bumper sticker that says, “Don’t like abortion? Then don’t have one”. Deal with this reality, as many of the visitors to this site rather like, and on the whole, appreciate this ethos.

    Sorry to be testy, but Jeez Louise, man. You can no longer pretend that your ability to share posts that you find insightful is poisoned at the root through the arbitrary and inescapable meanness of spirit of that ogre, Ron Unz, now that you are equipped to circumvent this imaginary limitation. That has always been BS, and you are now called out on it. Please give it a rest.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  203. Corn says:
    @AnotherDad

    “And for the record, I don’t particularly like skinny jeans. As straight guy I like fashions that highlight women being women. (And most adult women don’t have figures like this gal.)”

    I don’t like jeans on women period really. What’s so sexy about em? Hell guys wear jeans.

    As far as ladies’ wardrobes go I much prefer skirts and dresses. If a gal must wear trousers I like those skintight black or gray leggings women have taken to wearing. Much more form fitting to show off the legs and booty. Yeah I’m a perv……

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  204. Lowe says:
    @eah

    The woman in that ad looks too young for menopause.

  205. @Paul Jolliffe

    So true. Perhaps “fixing up” for both sexes, but especially girls, is partial proof of evolutionary fitness, like bower birds stacking up shiny things. High school kids despair because they think “not a raving beauty” means they’re unlovable, when really they just need more shiny stuff.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  206. @Corn

    Yeah I’m a perv……

    Nope!

    You are a totally normal heterosexual male with totally normal desires.

  207. @Anonymous

    “Those poor women were mutilated so bad that they could hardly even walk. Still, it was then widely believed in China that this would somehow make them more ‘marriageable’.”

    It *did* make them more marriageable—that’s what was so awful about it.

  208. TheBoom says:

    The surge of teenage girls thinking they are boys is just the most recent example of why we need Sharia law in the US if we are going to survive as a first world country. Too many females will blindly follow any fashion that is popular. That makes them very easy to propagandize. They are defenseless against stupid, destructive ideology and trends unless their parents and social group can keep them sane. Just because a subset of Muslims blow themselves up doesn’t mean we can’t learn from them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  209. @MikeatMikedotMike

    I can think of a number of fashion disasters I survived in adolescence, and I am thankful that most of them torment me only in the form of school yearbook pictures. No girl should be allowed to make an irreversible surgical decision about gender at that age!

  210. Anon[565] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    There’s a great book from 1997 called Hystories by Elaine Showalter. Showalter is described by Wikipedia as “an American literary critic, feminist, and writer on cultural and social issues. She is one of the founders of feminist literary criticism in United States academia.” You wouldn’t think a feminist would be endorsing the concept of hysteria as a condition, but the book links it to:

    – Alien abduction
    – Chronic fatigue syndrome
    – Satanic ritual abues
    – Recovered memory
    – Gulf War syndrome
    – Multiple personality disorder

    Boy, was she harassed. The 1990 version of irate trannies was irate chronic fatigue victims, who turned out to be able to muster a lot of energy and pep if Showalter showed up in their town for a lecture.

    Gulf War syndrome just kind of faded away after government studies repeatedly never turned up anything.

    Recovered memories were acknowledged and researched by Elizabeth Loftus and others up until memory holing the concept became necessary to villainize Woody Allen, and then suddenly Loftus stopped being interviewed.

    I think, unfortunately, that transgenderism may end up more like chronic fatigue than like alien abduction. Chroniic fatigue has not been linked to any virus or anything, and never will be, but the medical profession and the CDC has given up and now just accepts it as true, externally, since doing otherwise brings out the crazies who try to destroy you.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  211. @Red Pill Angel

    It’s because everything is online now. We had The Mall (see my previous post on that). It was a vital adolescent preening and socializing venue at one time.

  212. @JerseyJeffersonian

    This is a lot of condescending palaver that assumes no one knows how to navigate to the homepage of a site when given a link to a subsection of the site. That is a faulty assumption.

    You’ve been spamming up the threads with your campaign against the text of Mein Kampf being accessible at unz.com for some little while, and it is become tedious through this mindless repetition.

    I think I’ve only made one previous comment in favour of Ron Unz including such a link on the homepage. You have me confused with someone else.

  213. @njguy73

    Believe it or not, I met Elese Dowden two days ago, at a university philosophy club, and it was very much like this. Someone made a remark about the relationship between Machiavelli and liberalism, and she said it was like the relationship between Martha Stewart and Snoop Dogg, and then tried to invent some rationalization for the comparison; but it was just a game.

    • Replies: @njguy73
  214. slumber_j says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    I agree that it’s difficult.

    But I’d add that homosexuality isn’t a delusion: you’re sexually attracted to whatever it is that excites you sexually, and that’s an incontrovertible fact about the world. Personally I think it’s a disorder: organisms aren’t supposed to fail to reproduce themselves. Reproduction is what organisms are for.

    This other transgender business is generally delusional. Chromosomally speaking, any organism is the sex it is, and not some other sex. To believe otherwise is literal madness.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  215. Corvinus says:
    @TheBoom

    “The surge of teenage girls thinking they are boys is just the most recent example of why we need Sharia law in the US if we are going to survive as a first world country.”

    Perfect. You are now in charge of purchasing burkas and scissors. Any (white) teen girl that you believe needs direction and purpose in life, you are authorized to take action. You said that a “social group” can keep them sane, so I imagine that you up to the challenge. Get moving, you have little time to waste. We await your field report.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
  216. Corvinus says:
    @Forbes

    So what is the primary race of the majority of these mothers and fathers who are generally derelict in their parental duties?

    Asking for a friend.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @eah
    , @Brutusale
  217. @Anon

    I reviewed Showalter’s book “Hystories” in National Review.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  218. Marat says:

    Really great post and comments. It seems there’s a perfect storm of factors at play at this late stage of feminism and destruction of the patriarchy.

    I’d add one more factor : mothers entering the work force during the seventies. Not having both parents available to raise kids in the countless ways that “being there” and “being a role model” count has been a terrible blow to kids. Some families are obviously able compensate for this, but not everyone. Social media and the interwebs seep into every nook and cranny where a rich family life and mentoring is missing. An even worse situation is the divorced single parent- even if the mother is not frazzled or unbalanced.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  219. Lurker says:
    @Daniel Williams

    But they weren’t able to get the media or academia or the legal system or politicians to back them up on that.

  220. There must be something in the food.

  221. Lurker says:
    @Stan d Mute

    This is akin to the gay fashion designers mentioned earlier. They may have been, er, gay for it but they were not able to get schools, the media, the government to endorse their position.

  222. Lurker says:
    @Forbes

    Exactly! She was pretty, she looked good in the clothes but physically that shape/size of woman does nothing for me or any other bloke I know. I like women to look like women.

    I was saying this to the wife of a friend – “Ooh you like all the bells whistles then?” she said. Yes!

  223. anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    National Review of what?

  224. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lowe

    Yep

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/20/religious-parents-lose-custody-transgender-teen/

    It has been legislated in Canada to follow this example without susceptibility to judicial discretion.

  225. eah says:

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  226. @DFH

    Actually, that Greek letter ξ in ὀρεξισ is a “xi”–and it’s pronounced “ks” in Greek, like our “x.” So our word “anorexia” is actually correct.

    You’re confusing the letter ξ and the letter ζ. The later is the “zeta,” the equivalent to our “z.”

  227. eah says:
    @Corvinus

    “I’ll take disproportionately white transgender freakishness over black academic failure and heavily disproportionate black violent criminality for $500 Alex.”

    You juvenile moron.

  228. Rosie says:
    @Redneck farmer

    As a guy,

    Nuff said.

    I’m afraid I’m going to have to ask you to trust me on this one, Mr. Redneck. That there is an outfit for pear shapes and no other.

  229. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale

    We fell in love down at the pier
    You were sunbathing, I was around
    Soon we were sharing a beer
    We fell in love at the pier
    I’m no sentimental slob so don’t think I’m queer
    You got something baby and it ain’t just my beer
    Well, maybe it’s the hot pants, maybe the heat
    Or was it the sneakers you kicked of your feet?

    I sat under my umbrella to keep my pearly skin
    You tanned your oily body looking like sin
    Well, soon I was sweating and I wanted to leave
    You slipped into the water from too much grease

    Well, I saw you yelling. I just couldn’t hear
    So I screamed back at you “Honey keep the beer!”
    We never consummated our outside love affair
    Too much tar and water, too much hot air

    Oh, what a tragic end to love that was lost
    We would have stood a chance if we met in the frost, but
    We fell in love down at pier
    You were sunbathing, I was around
    Now I go to beaches with my girlfriend
    No more love splinters in my rear end

  230. Rosie says:
    @Redneck farmer

    BTW, I think there is an easy fix for this outfi. Loose, slouchy top with high waist makes you look like an upside-down pyramid about to topple over, unless you’re wearing bell bottoms. Can anyone give me one good reason we don’t wear bear bell bottoms? They’re feminine and practical, and they make your legs look longer. Can I get an amen?

    This lady doesn’t have big boobs, but she’s wearing a chest-enhancing top, so you get the idea.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    , @Desiderius
  231. @Jim Don Bob

    There’s also a parallel in the not-so-attractive-to-girls, perhaps young-looking-for-their-age or nerdish teenaged males declaring themselves ‘gay’ – methinks making a virtue of necessity. The trouble is that a sixteen year old boy who looks 12 or 13 is likely to be very attractive to some male homosexuals.

    In the UK, the age of consent for homosexual acts was lowered first to 18 and then to 16 under the Blair administration, a move supported by all the big children’s charities, including what used to be called the Church of England Children’s Society.

    So by the time our can’t-get-a-girl 16 year old is 23 and at last girls are interested, he may have an interesting collection of medical issues, a three-figure partner count, plus he’s been in that lifestyle all his short adult life. It’s not so bad for the 23 year old revert lesbian – most men will just want to know in great detail what they got up to.

    Adolescence has always been a disturbing time for some kids ‘finding their sexual identity’, but now there’s a media/academic culture devoting to pointing them down what for the vast majority will be the wrong path.

    Back on topic, the prospects for a girl who’s been getting androgens or a boy who’s been getting estrogens for ten years since 12 or 13 and decides they’ve made a mistake are not good – and that’s before you think about what surgery may have done. But in the UK, even research on trans adults who change their minds is frowned on.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41384473

    A therapist says he is “astonished” by a university’s decision to stop him studying people who decide to reverse gender reassignment operations.

    James Caspian wanted to write a thesis on “detransition” as part of his master’s degree in counselling and psychotherapy at Bath Spa University.

    He said it was rejected by the university’s ethics committee because it could be “politically incorrect”.

  232. @slumber_j

    Well, there are situations where wires get crossed. But as the article above points out, this usually shows up early in childhood. In my friends case, he was a typical nerd–not physically virile, but clearly tempermentally masculine. And he’s not apparently gay as he’s continuing to live with his wife. But as the article says about its subjects, he recently experienced some psychological setbacks related to work. The shrink that convinced him his problem is that he always wanted to be a woman ought to be strung up.

    • Agree: slumber_j
  233. @Lot

    People like Liz Hurley went through a Goth/punk phase, but it didn’t ruin her life. I think it was a better decision than a sex change, though she only ended up with a single child at age 37 – a tremendous waste of potential.

  234. Kyle says:
    @NickG

    It’s all coming full circle now.

  235. @eah

    Methought she was enamour’d of an ass.

  236. ex-banker says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Paul McHugh, the rare voice of reason on the transgender issue, was also a voice of reason on the nursery school witch hunts.

  237. TheBoom says:
    @Corvinus

    Trump is mulling over making it a new cabinet position and I have already submitted my resume. I am going to impose White Sharia on a large scale

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  238. Brutusale says:
    @Corn

    They especially don’t like skinny bitches who eat more than they do.

    • LOL: Stan d Mute
  239. Brutusale says:
    @Corvinus

    When the entire impetus of the American media is to denigrate the lone voices of reason, white fathers, you’re shocked and shaken that the daughters are spinning out of control?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  240. Antiwar7 says:
    @Arclight

    The sad case of David Reimer highlights the damaging effects of similar ‘treatment’ in the 1960′s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

    People need to be more cautious, and less arrogant, in implementing their theories on people.

    • Replies: @PJ Collins
  241. e says:
    @Patrick Sullivan

    I wish we’d stop using “mind” instead of “brain.” The doctor gets his point across with the general public, but obviously there is a part of these people’s brains that is disordered. Something is organically wrong. I dislike any suggestion it’s a psychological malfunction as anything related to psychology is taking us back to nurture over nature.

    The same is true of the homosexual. Something went askew in the brain. No, it’s not their fault and they may or may not have been born that way (the odds right now are just as likely that some disruption to the system happened perinatally or w/in the first few years of life) but no, homosexuality is not a “normal variation”. A lot of pc scientists like to say now about it that it’s “natural variation.” That verbiage is a way of avoiding criticism from the left. Yeah, it’s “natural” in that it happens w/out humanity making it happen, but that’s like saying deafness is “natural” because the sufferer caught the measles and the deafness was a side effect of the infection.

  242. @Rosamond Vincy

    The Punks became Goths, or whatever. The kids I knew who were into that had two traits in common: divorced parents and drug use. Why else would you want to look like a sadistic corpse?

    I’ll bet plenty of these teen girls who want to be boys have totally messed up families and are on drugs, both legal and illegal. In fact the article mentioned the divorced parents and other mental illnesses associated with this madness. And don’t discount plain, old-fashioned rebellion. There’s plenty of blame to go around.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  243. @Cagey Beast

    That’s fine. Because when someone like “Someone’s Daughter…” writes her manifesto titled Mein Front Hole, before sending 6 million straight white males off to the sexual reassignment chambers, I hope Ron Unz puts a link up to it on his website. Know thy enemy, and all that.

  244. If you look a little closer at Littman’s sample, you’ll probably find that most of the subjects have no brothers or sisters, have single or unmarried mothers, and that they’ve been exposed repeatedly to a “feminist” ideology that tells them they are inferior and oppressed.

    I’m sure there are genuine ‘trans’ kids out there, but this ROGD has nothing to do with transsexualism or other intersex conditions.

  245. @Antiwar7

    What the Reimer case demonstrates is that a sense of self is inborn, and can’t be changed, however much you tinker with someone’s perceptions. David Reimer decided at 13 that he was a boy, and became one. This is identical to the situation expressed by the ROGD adolescents. The only question is whether or not the latter are being totally honest, or merely following some weird fad.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  246. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight

    It seems bizarre, but we are at a place where our cultural overlords insist that massive does of hormones and surgical mutilation to make someone into a facsimile of the opposite of their biological sex is considered ‘treatment.

    Population control. It makes them sterile.

  247. @stillCARealist

    Adolescents should have every chance to grow out of hormonal insanity. We have banned-substance and driving laws to protect them from their own recklessness. They may break those laws, and there are always teen casualties, but the law quite rightly tries to protect them until they are old enough to be appalled at the stupid things they did or wanted to do. (Got my own story about a concert four hours away which I wanted to attend with two older guys I barely knew, which my mother inexplicably prohibited….)

    The people who approve Gender Surgery for this age group are engaging in Social Darwinism. They are deliberately destroying these kids’ potential to breed, even if they later change their minds. Or maybe the hormones will keep them thinking properly gendered thoughts, although it didn’t work that way with David Reimer.

    And they think Conservatives are harsh and heartless!

  248. njguy73 says:
    @Mitchell Porter

    I should make a “Wheel Of Philosophy.” It would actually be two wheels. One with several ideologies, the other with several pop culture figures. I’d spin both wheels and ask professors to explain how the figure exemplifies the ideology. It’d be like that thing Jimmy Fallon does, where he has guests sing, say, “Mary Had A Little Lamb” in the style of, say, Joe Cocker.

    “Zoroastrianism and Justin Bieber”
    “Gnosticism and Jeff Foxworthy”
    “Existentialism and Nicki Minaj”

    and many more.

  249. @PJ Collins

    “David Reimer decided at 13 that he was a boy, and became one. “

    No, he always was a boy, it’s just that a deviant ‘doctor’ and gullible/deluded parents gaslighted him that he wasn’t from his birth. Having no penis and presumably a quasi-vagina must have aided this deception.

    “This is identical to the situation expressed by the ROGD adolescents. “

    No it isn’t.

  250. Corvinus says:
    @TheBoom

    You’re still here talking? We await your field report, complete with actual photographs of you, not your hapless underlings, personally imposing White Sharia.

  251. Corvinus says:
    @Brutusale

    “When the entire impetus of the American media is to denigrate the lone voices of reason, white fathers…”

    Wow, now your example here is EXACTLY what Fake News is all about. Blame the (Jew) media for their total inability of white fathers to “control” their daughters. And I thought radical liberals were adept at playing the blame game. Congratulations.

  252. @LondonBob

    Jeff Sessions has turned out to be even more useless to his constituents and full of shit than Trump –no mean feat!

  253. It’s not that hard to explain – anyone who starts to babble from the gender-dysphoria hymn sheet, gets immediate, unconditional praise and support from pretty much everywhere (except ‘haters’, whose opinions can be dismissed a priori, according to the catechism).

    Claiming a gender-dysphoric identity is easy – probably the easiest way to get positive feedback. And it’s highly advertised as such: Bruce Jenner got oceans of positive feedback for having his cock hacked off – turning himself from a weird crazy old guy, to a weirder, crazier old guy with no dick and fake tits in a dress. (I’m a ‘hater’, obviously – one who thinks that a crazy old dude who tries to pretend he’s an ugly old woman, does not merit screeds of positive press).

    By contrast: being anorexic strikes me as something that would be hard.

    Notwithstanding the fasting research shows that multi-day fasts aren’t that difficult, it still strikes me that it would take extremely high levels of discipline to deprive oneself of nutrition until the typical “anorexic” body comp was observed.

    The best thing about anorexia is that it’s a phase; generally, most girls abandon it and go on to live completely normal adult lives.

    Also, I dispute that anorexic girls tend to be drawn from the prettier end of the spectrum-of-hideousness.

    They’re seldom wildebeests at the start, so that’s a plus – but they’re the way they are because it’s a way to get attention when you’re average-looking and not very bright. If you’re genuinely pretty (and/or genuinely smart), you’re never short of positive attention. The prettiest decile usually have a surfeit of positive attention, and literally zero social pressure to change.

    Being an anorexic girl is quite a lot like being a soi-disant ‘alpha’ male: it’s actually Beta males who do the ersatz-’alpha’ act – they’re never top-decile sportsmen or students; they’re also-rans within their own milieu, and so they kick downwards, which is the opposite of what a genuine alpha does.

    I also do not buy the claim that almost half of these gender-dysphoric nutters are ‘academically gifted’ – show me their GPAs or IQ tests, and maybe I’ll change my mind, but my ‘prior’ is that they are right from the ‘meat’ of the IQ distribution.

    That’s the whole problem (as they see it): everybody has to have a ‘brand’, or a means of differentiating themselves from the broader herd. You’ve got to be pretty, or funny, or smart. Preferably all 3. Being ‘nice’ can help if you’re pretty, but is worthless otherwise.

    So if you’re a physical dud who’s getting Cs in grade 8 math, you’ve got nothing. No Instagram ‘likes’ for your photos! (I am assuming that’s how Instagram works, right?)

    Far from being ‘gifted’, these are people who are desperate for social status, and figure they’re too average to get status by any means other than cheap signalling. And I do say ‘cheap’, even though it’s usually depression (and not uncommonly suicide) if they ‘go through with it’ all the way until the day that genitals are mangled.

    But that’s the entire point most of these ‘GD’ people will never ever go under the knife – they want the pats on the head and the sympathy and understanding of the crowd, but do not intend ever to actually, physically “transition” (as they call it).

    In the same way, anorexic girls very seldom actually starve to death; most ‘cutters’ do no long-term physical harm to themselves, and seldom inflict more than superficial wounds; most ‘suicide’ attempts are deliberately unsuccessful. It’s all just signalling, and should be treated as such: the fact that it’s not treated as a phase, simply makes it seem like a successful strategy… they sought attention; they did [whatever]; they got attention.

    Imagine trying to formulate a strategy for becoming more popular, when your cognitive apparatus is so dysfunctional that you can become inconsolable because of the awfulness of life in grade 9 with only 20 Instagram followers.

    Then your strategy gets validated by precisely the sort of short-term sentimental emoting that you crave. It’s just reinforced.

    Most kids will make bad food choices unless a grown-up forces them to make good ones, because kids have short horizons; chips, chocolate bars and fizzy drinks are purposefully designed to make pleasure centres tingle, whereas broccoli tastes like ass.

    Likewise, most kids will make bad social-signalling choices if left to their own devices. Cigarette companies know this; psychologists apparently don’t.

    .

    Some parents of dumb kids want it to be something else – they want it to be autism, or ADD/ADHD, or dyslexia… anything so long as it’s not just that they had a bog-standard dumb kid. Preferably something interesting and fashionable.

    Parents with kids who are social outcasts in their age cohort, want it to be something other than a shit personality (or more likely, teenage social awkwardness); again, it has to be something more profound and interesting (and fashionable).
    .
    .
    Lastly: broken homes, motherfuckers. Make it easy to break a home, and you will wind up with a bunch of busted kids. Having a bad father is better than having a string of “Mom’s boyfriend”. Again, psychologists don’t understand that.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  254. njguy73 says:
    @njguy73

    Correction:

    You tax something, you get less of it.
    You subsidize something, you get more of it.

  255. @Rosie

    That lady doesn’t need big boobs.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  256. Rosie says:
    @Desiderius

    Agreed, but she does need ten pounds.

  257. E e says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Google “4th wave now” if you want a site with similar information but not the “icky” political associations. There’s a bit of radical feminism in the mix, but they’re obviously not the bandwagon types, and overall they stay as apolitical as possible given the topic.

  258. Kyle says:
    @The Man From K Street

    Dr. Sarah Taber seems to be some kind of bot or troll funded by Big Agra. My spidey senses are, something or another.

  259. Dan Hayes says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve,

    In the WSJ Dorothy Rabinowitz has also reported on and campaigned for the release of a falsely incarcerated priest.

    Dorothy is the ultimate living oxymoron: a principled Neoconservative!

  260. dfordoom says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    But seriously, if “conservatives” are unwilling to call the whole lot out for what it is–an attack on their race and civilization, it’s very legitimacy and right to exist–then it’s hopeless. You can’t win if you don’t fight.

    Mainstream conservatives don’t want to fight against the liberal agenda because they are in fact liberals. They accept the entire liberal social agenda. They’re liberals who think rich people shouldn’t have to pay taxes and that we need more cheap labour, but they’re still liberals.

    It’s not that they’re stupid or cowardly. They just aren’t conservative in any meaningful sense of the word. They’re evil rather than stupid or cowardly.

  261. @Desiderius

    (Desiderius, may I tell you that friends of mine were blessed with – – – triplets. I heard them often times say, that they thought, that it might somehow be possible to survive the upbringing of twins, whereas their fate is such, that nothing but pure faith and perseverance would help them to raise those – may I say: wicked? – kids.
    (Now they spend a lot of time with a few grand-children and look much better than they once mostly did – and my friend Dieter B. never bothered to quit smoking his pipe during all these times, which, I’m sure, helped him a lot).

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  262. Unzerker says:
    @Rosie

    Attractive women look good in everything they wear. Even when they dress like a butch lesbian, like this model does.

  263. @Dieter Kief

    Heh, no doubt. I miss my olde terbacky.

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