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I have a vague hunch that the growth of the transgender movement is somehow related to the Nerd Liberation movement, which was the most unexpected successful identity movement of my lifetime. It’s not clear if autism, Asperger’s, and/or nerdism is becoming more common, but it’s definitely more of an identity than it once was.

There has been a little research into this subject, breaking trans people up into three main categories:

– Effeminate early transitioning male to female trans individuals (ladyboys) are of course not very nerdy at all. They tend to be people persons (e.g., prostitutes) and not big on logic.

– Female to male trans are very nerdy.

– Late transitioning masculine male to female trans people (the Wachowskis, the baseball stats person, my MBA school teammate, the economist, etc.) tend to be at least as nerdy as the average man and much more nerdy than the average woman.

I’ve found that the third category, which includes most of the celebrities and high achievers, tends to have a science fiction aspect to their interests. They often seem like characters from old Heinlein sci-fi stories.

Heinlein, a dedicated professional writer, believed in fan service and studied the wants of his various kinds of fans. In 1941 he was both guest of honor and de facto host of a convention for sci-fi fans at which he emphasized to the attendees that, sure, they might be social outcasts today, but they would be a world-changing elite tomorrow!

It doesn’t strike me as absurd that Heinlein would have sensed a market for these kind of fantasies among some sci-fi fans as early as 1958, the year of his solipsistic transsexual time travel short story “All You Zombies.”

In general, much of transgenderism seems like a weird flavor of a sci-fi fan’s traditional interest in Subduing Nature through New Technology.

 
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  1. slumber_j says:

    That dovetails completely with the news friends dropped on me last October when I visited Spain: that my ex-brother-in-law (brother of my ex-wife, that is) had changed his name from Marc (or Marco, as they’d always known him) to “Mar,” and was now living in Madrid and getting hormone treatments etc. in order to “become a woman.”

    A nerdier guy is hard to imagine, and he’s in his forties and a big sci-fi fan, with a longstanding slew of emotional and personality disorders.

    Fortunately or unfortunately for him, he’s rich, so he can totally live the dream. On the other hand he’s also traditionally really hairy, which must complicate matters.

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  2. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    In general, transgenderism seems like a weird flavor of a sci-fi fan’s interest in Subduing Nature through New Technology.

    The slightly less fringy version of that seems to be the techies’ quest for immortality, which was touched on by Franzen in his last novel.

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  3. Thomas says:

    There might be a better word someone has come up with, but I’m increasingly using the term “biophobia” to describe resistance or aversion to the idea that biology and biological factors influence, constrain, or affect the human condition. You see it many places relevant to this blog: aversion to HBD, transgenderism, blank-slatism, nurture over nature, etc., and also in other areas I expect are of relevance to many readers of this blog (the analysis of sexual attraction that comes with Heartiste-style game/PUA examinations, for example).

    It’s all the more interesting because in other areas, the idea that the natural world has imposed limits or constraints on human progress has become uncontroversial. Environmentalism is the best example. In thinking about human ability and the human form itself, though, the conventional wisdom seems firmly stuck somewhere around the mid-20th century.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Good point.
    , @AndrewR
    "Biophobia" implies a fear of life.

    I'd go with biologiphobia. Not as short but more clear: the fear of admitting uncomfortable biological truths

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    If " . . . biology and biological factors influence, constrain, or affect the human condition.", then the significant changes in diet, activity, and environment of the past century would, perforce, affect our biology. Endocrine disruptors, pseudo-estrogens, estrogenic activity such as light at night, other chemicals, reduction in and/or change of type of physical activity, little exposure to nature's elements (weather, etc.), food additives, GMOs and glyphosate and other agrichemicals, may well have altered our behavior and physiology. Add in social engineering and affluence , and technology and businesses that reduce traditional sex roles, and mass war and the confluence of events may boil down to, uh . . . a sexual no-man's land, so to joke. Let's call it "Fifty Acronyms of Grey" (Gray's Anatomy is taken, I hear.). The idea that gender is strictly artifice is absurd on its face and other body parts. I've personally asked women in my life if billboards, TV, and women's magazines - or their ovaries - drove them to allow themselves to be invaded by men and to expel babies in howling agony - repeatedly. The ovaries take it.
    , @unpc downunder
    The main correlations of gynephilic MtF trans are with high IQ, being white or oriental, and being left-handed or ambidextrous. This suggest it's strongly correlated with a high level of brain laterisation (increased specialisation of the brain hemispheres for maximum cognitive performance).

    My theory: white and probably oriental males tend to have more strongly lateralised brain than males of other races for intelligence/technical ability reasons. This greater brain lateralisation leaves the brains of white males more vulnerable to fluctuations in male hormone levels in the womb (latest studies into MtF trans brains show lack of brain masculination in a number of key areas related to sex indentity). Hence the high levels of MtF transsexualism and crossdressing seen among white and oriental males.

    Note that lack of brain masculinisation is not the same as brain feminisation. A male who's brain is feminised is likely to show female behaviour traits, such as good people skills and a tendency to be emotional rather than logical. A male who's brain's isn't sexually masculinised is more likely to have some male-typical traits such as high spatial intelligence but also have a higher level of introversion or neuroticism.

    The effeminate androphilic trannies experience both brain masculination and brain feminisation. Also since, they act like girly females from an early age, their bodies will be somewhat feminised through lack of protein, lack of weight bearing exercise, submissive sex with males etc (submissive sex lowers male hormone levels, which is one reason there is such a big social stigma attached to it by hetero males).

  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Trans women are overrepresented in my circle of (young, nerdy, autistic) people, so much that we discuss this all the time. There could definitely be multiple types/clades. If late-transitioning people used to be characteristic of the autistic clade, it could be the “nerd liberation” thing, and this type is transitioning much earlier now. Definitely not limited to manly men, as lots of them are quite feminine in appearance. See the LessWrong survey from a couple years ago – one in ten women in the community is MTF trans. http://lesswrong.com/lw/lhg/2014_survey_results/

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    • Replies: @MC
    That is hilarious. Hard to imagine a more male-brained group of people than LW.
    , @RadicalCenter
    You might need a new circle of acquaintances, buddy ;)
  5. @Thomas
    There might be a better word someone has come up with, but I'm increasingly using the term "biophobia" to describe resistance or aversion to the idea that biology and biological factors influence, constrain, or affect the human condition. You see it many places relevant to this blog: aversion to HBD, transgenderism, blank-slatism, nurture over nature, etc., and also in other areas I expect are of relevance to many readers of this blog (the analysis of sexual attraction that comes with Heartiste-style game/PUA examinations, for example).

    It's all the more interesting because in other areas, the idea that the natural world has imposed limits or constraints on human progress has become uncontroversial. Environmentalism is the best example. In thinking about human ability and the human form itself, though, the conventional wisdom seems firmly stuck somewhere around the mid-20th century.

    Good point.

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  6. Jefferson says:

    Steve why are you avoiding the 800 pound gorillas in the room, which is Louisiana and Minnesota. It’s time for another blog about Blackness and the boys in blue.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Was thinking about the coincidence of these happening heading into a general election season. But both of those videos look pretty damning.

    I also think the tendency on the left to put everything in pre-Civil Rights racial terms obscures something important and relatively new. Cops weren't always this quick on the trigger. They might have been quick with a nightstick or taser instead.

    The shooting of obviously non-threatening dogs by cops seems a relatively new phenomenon by cops too, and may be related.
    , @fnn
    The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.
    , @vinny
    This Minnesota one we're never going to stop hearing about. It took 'em a couple of years, but they finally found a black body victim who had a job and no record and was pretty much minding his own business at the time. It sounds like he had his life pretty well put together too. Poor guy. Sad.
  7. MC says:
    @Anonymous
    Trans women are overrepresented in my circle of (young, nerdy, autistic) people, so much that we discuss this all the time. There could definitely be multiple types/clades. If late-transitioning people used to be characteristic of the autistic clade, it could be the "nerd liberation" thing, and this type is transitioning much earlier now. Definitely not limited to manly men, as lots of them are quite feminine in appearance. See the LessWrong survey from a couple years ago - one in ten women in the community is MTF trans. http://lesswrong.com/lw/lhg/2014_survey_results/

    That is hilarious. Hard to imagine a more male-brained group of people than LW.

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  8. Mikeja says:

    A father of a transgender Assberger mentioned to me there had been a study. Something like 8% of Assbergers are somewhat transgender.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I hope that is unintentional but either way I'm laughing way too hard at it.

    I pronounce it almost like a German speaker, Ahs-pear-ger, in order to avoid saying "ass burgers."
  9. Hepp says:

    I think that the connection might be that asperger’s people can occasionally take the ruling ideology to its logical conclusions, due to hyperrationalism (they can also be skeptics of course). So if gender isn’t real but created by society then every new emotion of theirs is a sign of gender fluidity.

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  10. There seems to be a behavioral cluster that involves comic books, sci-fi and Social Justice. My two most Social Justicey friends – one meal and one female – are not super nerdy, but they’re both heavily into sci-fi. They dress up like the characters and have big collections of toys and stuff.

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  11. @Anonymous
    Trans women are overrepresented in my circle of (young, nerdy, autistic) people, so much that we discuss this all the time. There could definitely be multiple types/clades. If late-transitioning people used to be characteristic of the autistic clade, it could be the "nerd liberation" thing, and this type is transitioning much earlier now. Definitely not limited to manly men, as lots of them are quite feminine in appearance. See the LessWrong survey from a couple years ago - one in ten women in the community is MTF trans. http://lesswrong.com/lw/lhg/2014_survey_results/

    You might need a new circle of acquaintances, buddy ;)

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  12. Mr. Blank says:

    I’ve long had thoughts along the same lines. Possibly related: There was a (more or less) direct-to-video movie adaptation of “— All You Zombies —” a couple of years ago starring Ethan Hawke:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2397535/

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  13. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jefferson
    Steve why are you avoiding the 800 pound gorillas in the room, which is Louisiana and Minnesota. It's time for another blog about Blackness and the boys in blue.

    Was thinking about the coincidence of these happening heading into a general election season. But both of those videos look pretty damning.

    I also think the tendency on the left to put everything in pre-Civil Rights racial terms obscures something important and relatively new. Cops weren’t always this quick on the trigger. They might have been quick with a nightstick or taser instead.

    The shooting of obviously non-threatening dogs by cops seems a relatively new phenomenon by cops too, and may be related.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    At least with dogs, cops are getting touchy because half of all dogs out there seem to be pit bulls nowadays, and their behavior cannot be trusted. As for blacks, they've been getting more reckless and violent from about the 1970s on, and they care less about the consequences. The decline of a proper family unit in the black community means they're becoming less socialized in what the norms of society are, and they're more prone to godawful behavior. This makes cops paranoid.
  14. Science fiction writers seemed to have picked up on the fact that male sexual rejects tend to read their stuff. Many of their stories set in “the future” give the impression that sexual experience doesn’t exist as a current reality for the reader, but it might become possible some day, say, somewhere in the vicinity of the time it becomes possible to travel to Mars.

    BTW, these writers started the project to propagandize the culture with accepting homosexuality as a different kind of normal many decades ago. You can see an example in this clip from a 40 year old movie, Logan’s Run:

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  15. frizzled says:

    The going theory of “trans”, among scientists who are brave enough to say it, is Blanchard’s typology: some younger homosexual transsexuals, and many, usually older, heterosexual autogynephile crossdressers. All of whom are now subsumed under “transgender”, because the crossdressing fetishist majority found it convenient to use the plight of the transsexual minority to gain political support.

    So for the majority of male “transgenders”, it’s a sex fetish, heterosexuality taken to such an extreme they want to become the objects of their own lust. The common factor in nerdiness and autogynephile transgenderism is hypermasculinity.

    In other World War T news: Google today inadvertently perpetrated Transphobic Crimethink by having a doodle to honor Nettie Stevens, the woman scientist who discovered sex chromosomes make you a man or a woman way back in 1905.

    Fortunately, we’ve moved past all that essentialist nonsense in 2016, as a woman is anyone who says she is a woman, and you’d better agree if you know what’s good for you. Wikipedia’s small army of transgendered editors will surely be along any moment to put the offending page down the memory hole.

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  16. L Woods says:

    Aspects of ‘nerd culture’ (if you will) may have been appropriated by the mainstream, but “nerds” themselves are treated more poorly than ever. Excepting the tiny few that strike it rich, of course.

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  17. fnn says:
    @Jefferson
    Steve why are you avoiding the 800 pound gorillas in the room, which is Louisiana and Minnesota. It's time for another blog about Blackness and the boys in blue.

    The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.

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    http://www.twincities.com/2016/02/02/stpaul-police-department-diversity/

    Among St. Paul’s officers, the only racial or ethnic group with a larger share of officers than in 2007 are Asians; other groups have slightly lost ground.

    Four percent of the city’s officers were Asian in 2007 and, as of the beginning of January, they made up nearly 8 percent of the department; most are Hmong, according to the Minnesota Asian Peace Officers Association. Sixteen percent of St. Paul’s population is Asian.

    Seven of the 19 officers who graduated from the academy Tuesday are Asian, including the only woman in the class. Two officers are Hispanic men and the remaining 10 are white men.

    , @Jefferson
    "The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong."

    He is a White Hmong now for killing a Black man.
  18. AndrewR says:
    @Thomas
    There might be a better word someone has come up with, but I'm increasingly using the term "biophobia" to describe resistance or aversion to the idea that biology and biological factors influence, constrain, or affect the human condition. You see it many places relevant to this blog: aversion to HBD, transgenderism, blank-slatism, nurture over nature, etc., and also in other areas I expect are of relevance to many readers of this blog (the analysis of sexual attraction that comes with Heartiste-style game/PUA examinations, for example).

    It's all the more interesting because in other areas, the idea that the natural world has imposed limits or constraints on human progress has become uncontroversial. Environmentalism is the best example. In thinking about human ability and the human form itself, though, the conventional wisdom seems firmly stuck somewhere around the mid-20th century.

    “Biophobia” implies a fear of life.

    I’d go with biologiphobia. Not as short but more clear: the fear of admitting uncomfortable biological truths

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    “Biophobia” implies a fear of life.
     
    Does it though? Do people misunderstand "homophobia" to mean "fear of the same"? You even have words like "biotechnology", where the "bio-" means "biological", not life.

    Having said that, "biophobia" doesn't really work for me either. Too literal to be memorable. But I don't have any better ideas.

    We need a term like "cuckservative"- the meaning may not immediately be obvious to everyone, but once you figure it out, you never forget it.
    , @Warner
    This biophobia or biologiophobia also has roots in fear of death. If a thing lives, it dies. If it transcends biology, it transcends death. Except that it doesn't. But that is the technological hope.

    That in turn is related to the loss of hope stemming from the loss of religious faith.

    We are hardwired to want the infinite and the transcendental. Without hope in the divine, people transfer their hope to technology as a divine-like power.

    Thus at the end, it is idolatry.

    , @NickG

    I’d go with biologiphobia. Not as short but more clear: the fear of admitting uncomfortable biological truths
     
    There is still the old work horse liberal creationist.
  19. Get with the program, people!

    There is no longer any such thing as “Asperger’s Syndrome.” It was removed as a diagnosis from the DSM-V. What was once Asperger’s is now included in “Autism Spectrum Disorder.”

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  20. AndrewR says:
    @Mikeja
    A father of a transgender Assberger mentioned to me there had been a study. Something like 8% of Assbergers are somewhat transgender.

    I hope that is unintentional but either way I’m laughing way too hard at it.

    I pronounce it almost like a German speaker, Ahs-pear-ger, in order to avoid saying “ass burgers.”

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    • Replies: @CJ
    Ha ha, I've tried to enunciate the "p" sound, but then it comes out "ass purgers".
    , @BenKenobi
    There was a South Park episode centered around that joke. Coincidental to our topic at hand (the Wachowksis were mentioned), there was a Matrix angle.

    Quick summary: The Asbergers patients were an expy of Morpheus' team, and the disorder was all an act. They escaped "The Matrix" by getting drunk. Hilarity ensued.
    , @middle aged vet
    There may be nothing wrong at laughing at this - I assume you feel Asperger victims are morally culpable for not trying harder to avoid showing the typical traits their genes tried to force on them, and so it is ok to laugh at them. Well, your apparently unempathetic laughter is not all that important in the scheme of things, and I hope you never have to face the fact that you or a family member suffers from the symptoms of Aspergers. Many of the symptoms are very unpleasant - selfish excitability with average and, to tell the truth, generally paltry intellectual achievements, which were, however boring and paltry, won at a cost most of us would not have given - lack of inborn easy comfort with empathy - genes-driven failure to consider why other people enjoy living in a world where the difference between the sexes is the most important fact of social life - gene-driven inability to, without great effort, raise children in the way children deserve, and so on. If you are laughing at people who suffer these shortcomings through no fault of their own then maybe it is you who have the more serious problem with a lack of empathy. I care about my friends and one of the prayers I say for them is that their children will not suffer in this way. I get it that it was "just a joke" but still ...
  21. @Thomas
    There might be a better word someone has come up with, but I'm increasingly using the term "biophobia" to describe resistance or aversion to the idea that biology and biological factors influence, constrain, or affect the human condition. You see it many places relevant to this blog: aversion to HBD, transgenderism, blank-slatism, nurture over nature, etc., and also in other areas I expect are of relevance to many readers of this blog (the analysis of sexual attraction that comes with Heartiste-style game/PUA examinations, for example).

    It's all the more interesting because in other areas, the idea that the natural world has imposed limits or constraints on human progress has become uncontroversial. Environmentalism is the best example. In thinking about human ability and the human form itself, though, the conventional wisdom seems firmly stuck somewhere around the mid-20th century.

    If ” . . . biology and biological factors influence, constrain, or affect the human condition.”, then the significant changes in diet, activity, and environment of the past century would, perforce, affect our biology. Endocrine disruptors, pseudo-estrogens, estrogenic activity such as light at night, other chemicals, reduction in and/or change of type of physical activity, little exposure to nature’s elements (weather, etc.), food additives, GMOs and glyphosate and other agrichemicals, may well have altered our behavior and physiology. Add in social engineering and affluence , and technology and businesses that reduce traditional sex roles, and mass war and the confluence of events may boil down to, uh . . . a sexual no-man’s land, so to joke. Let’s call it “Fifty Acronyms of Grey” (Gray’s Anatomy is taken, I hear.). The idea that gender is strictly artifice is absurd on its face and other body parts. I’ve personally asked women in my life if billboards, TV, and women’s magazines – or their ovaries – drove them to allow themselves to be invaded by men and to expel babies in howling agony – repeatedly. The ovaries take it.

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  22. MQ says:

    What about autogynephilia? How does that hook up with autism?

    Bruce Jenner seemed very non-autistic but very narcissistic. I suspect autogynephilia and narcisissim are linked.

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  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Who’s the baseball stats person that’s trans? Bill James?

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    No.
    , @Brutusale
    Chris(tina) Kahrl, one of the co-founders of Baseball Prospectus.

    Why so coy, Steve? (S)he's been out and an activist since the early Aughts.

  24. Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven’t seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can’t remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your “friends” (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    There aren't any guns in The Matrix movies, are there?
    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    It used to be called adults disagreeing, and/or each to his own taste. Now it's diagnosed as mental illness. Every week a human behavior with zillion-year roots is added to psychopharmacology's (and the state's) arsenal of ways to profit and sort and corral the subject tax-cattle/cannon fodder.

    Also, note the irony inherent in your assertions: they will diagnose you as spectrum-disordered and order you disarmed. Tsk. Molon labe, dude.

    , @Whiskey
    Not really. If you look at say, "NutNFancy" and other gun enthusiasts on Youtube (Hickock45, the Yankee Marshall, etc.) they fit a pattern. Almost all ex-military. Many ex law enforcement. They have a fascination with WEAPONS, which is what a gun is when you get down to it, that say Spartan hoplites and Roman Centurions would have appreciated. Ditto say, notorious Old West bad man John Wesley Hardin and Hickock himself. Looking at the men in the Youtube videos, and their hobbies (hunting, backpacking, hiking, fishing) ... nerdy is not what comes to mind.

    You don't have to take my word for it, see for yourself. NutNFancy for example has a video just about survival firestarters that he tests out in the Utah mountain snow.

    As for science fiction, it is no longer a male nerd's paradise or even very male. Its mostly now ... women. Go look at the Science Fiction book section at your local Barnes and Noble. Besides "Teen Paranormal Romance" there is just row after row after row of books oriented towards women: Lesbian wereseal sex in space, Dinosaur pr0n (no I'm NOT kidding either), along with the fantasy stuff like Mermaids and werewolf fashionistas. No I'm NOT kidding on that area either.

    Sci-fi is in a crisis just like Comic Books, because both cater to an aging, over-forty fanbase that is "very selective" (i.e. weird, hard-left, mostly female) and has the appeal to a 13 year old boy that would equal say, any of the Wachowski's later flops.

    This is why ebook stuff like Larry Correia's Monster Hunter series and various Harry Turtledove style alternative military histories are not published anymore, but go direct to ebook. [As has the Gor series by John Norman who was canned by his publisher for being un-PC]. Heck Mike Resnick was tossed out of the SFWA leadership because he was old, White, male, and appealed to White male fans. Sci-Fi publishing and fandom has become a toxic stew of PC and Diversity witch-hunting, with garbage published by Black/Female writers because they are not White men.
    , @Alec Leamas
    I doubt it. Guns are relatively simple machines. Appreciation and fascination with mechanical instruments is just healthy, normal masculinity.

    Also, people on the Autism Spectrum are noise-sensitive and lack normal spatial awareness, so it's unlikely that they'd be drawn to shooting sports.
    , @advancedatheist
    Nerds also like first-person shooter computer games.
    , @Psmith
    Yep. A fair number of actual Aspie tech nerds are big-time gun guys. And I always get the impression when I talk to the older non-tech guys at my range (mostly farmers and tradesmen) that they would have been on the high school robotics team if it had been a thing when they were growing up.

    Anyway, on the main point, I know a fair number of actual trans or otherwise genderweird types who have made this exact observation.

    , @Pericles
    I'd put you under the general heading of "hobbyist". No matter how insignificant the field, and guns are more significant than many, you will have to struggle to be the best. There's a quote about that which I can't find.

    Hobbies are good for society, by the way. That's how technology advances without the government bureaucracy.
    , @EvolutionistX
    100% of gun enthusiasts I know are aspie, though I wouldn't necessarily say it to their faces. One of them is also trans, (mtf) which is absurd. I don't know that many people who are really into guns, though.

    Let's take this and run a bit further, though. Maybe anyone who is obsessively into a subject they aren't paid to study (sports, motorcycles, makeup, etc.) to the point where they spend a great deal of time and money on it and talk about it even with people who aren't interested in the subject, could be considered "aspie" in this way. But most people don't use such an expansive definition.
  25. vinny says:
    @Jefferson
    Steve why are you avoiding the 800 pound gorillas in the room, which is Louisiana and Minnesota. It's time for another blog about Blackness and the boys in blue.

    This Minnesota one we’re never going to stop hearing about. It took ‘em a couple of years, but they finally found a black body victim who had a job and no record and was pretty much minding his own business at the time. It sounds like he had his life pretty well put together too. Poor guy. Sad.

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    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    The fact that the shooting officer was Asian may cause the media to give pause. In fact, if this shooting hadn't come on the heels of the Louisiana shooting, it might not even have made the front page.
    , @Dirk Dagger
    Philando was a straight A student at St. Paul Central High School.
  26. @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    There aren’t any guns in The Matrix movies, are there?

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    There aren’t any guns in The Matrix movies, are there?
     
    Guns. Lots of guns

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y70vcs3oV14
    , @Ray P
    The NRA could have a trans-sexual branch (lopped off)? "This is/isn't the only pistol I'm packing."
    , @Rob McX
    http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Matrix,_The

    http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Matrix_Reloaded,_The
  27. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    With the late transitioners, might not money have something to do with it? I’ve often thought that after some people have a certain level of money they go loopy. All their basic needs are well met and then their minds wander, and where the mind wanders they actually have the money to entertain their thoughts.

    Specifically with the Wachowskies, what are the odds on that? It can’t be a naturally occurring thing can it?

    It was you who also brought up the idea of hormonal backwash right? These people did so many drugs earlier in life that it effects them in weird ways later in life.

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  28. @vinny
    This Minnesota one we're never going to stop hearing about. It took 'em a couple of years, but they finally found a black body victim who had a job and no record and was pretty much minding his own business at the time. It sounds like he had his life pretty well put together too. Poor guy. Sad.

    The fact that the shooting officer was Asian may cause the media to give pause. In fact, if this shooting hadn’t come on the heels of the Louisiana shooting, it might not even have made the front page.

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  29. Heinlein also popularized the idea of polyamory in his novels, though the term came along later. Some nerds can cross the sexual experience threshold with women’s voluntary cooperation – lightning can strike anyone, I suppose – and the ones who want to live out their Heinleinian fantasies can then figure out how to date or bed more than one girlfriend at a time. Nerds don’t seem like good candidates for this in general, but I suspect the ones who luck out early in life with sexual validation from girls just get an advantage over similar nerds who miss out.

    The very nerdy Eliezer Yudkowsky, the leader of the LessWrong cult, claims he lives as a polyamorist, but I remain skeptical.

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  30. @fnn
    The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.

    http://www.twincities.com/2016/02/02/stpaul-police-department-diversity/

    Among St. Paul’s officers, the only racial or ethnic group with a larger share of officers than in 2007 are Asians; other groups have slightly lost ground.

    Four percent of the city’s officers were Asian in 2007 and, as of the beginning of January, they made up nearly 8 percent of the department; most are Hmong, according to the Minnesota Asian Peace Officers Association. Sixteen percent of St. Paul’s population is Asian.

    Seven of the 19 officers who graduated from the academy Tuesday are Asian, including the only woman in the class. Two officers are Hispanic men and the remaining 10 are white men.

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    • Replies: @vinny
    This did not happen in St. Paul but in the nearby suburb of Falcon Heights, which is probably too small to have its own police force; I think I read it was St. Anthony PD or something.

    Incidentally, a couple of years ago I was dating a woman who lived just a few blocks from where this shooting happened and, almost every time I would go visit, there was someone pulled over for something. Another small poor municipality that doesn't generate enough wealth to maintain its infrastructure or pay its employees, so has to shake down people driving on its roads. Ferguson is the same way, with the same stories of police harassment.

    Another related anecdote: on Easter Sunday morning this year, I was waiting 2.5 miles south of the shooting location, waiting for the light rail to take me to church, and saw a solitary St Paul police officer in a wrestling match with a much larger black guy. The black guy eventually exhausted the police officer, and despite having been tazed on the ground, broke free and started running down the street. Unfortunately for him, he ran in the exact direction from which the reinforcements were coming and was thrown to the ground by a large contingent of well rested officers and arrested. I rather was impressed by the original officer's restraint. How often does that sort of thing happen but we never hear about it?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    That "Mexican is the new Italian" has often been debunked, sometimes right here. But "Hmong us the new Irish" may have some truth to it. Second generation breaks the law, third generation enforces it.

    However, this cop is almost certainly Mexican in heritage. But his wife sounds Swedish. Their kid'll be the next José Peterson!

    http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Peterson
  31. George says:

    Google gives hits on combinations of autism aspergers transgender gender confusion dysphoria.

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  32. Let’s not defame nerds and autistic folks by linking them with transgenderism. The vast majority are straight as anyone else whether or not they are successful at picking up chicks.

    And on the flip side, transgenders don’t exactly strike me as the type to wear pocket protectors (Ewww- it would like totally clash with my nipple ring!) and do quantum mechanics mathematical formulations for fun on Friday night.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/conway.html
  33. Polynices says:

    Because anecdotes are great when they confirm one’s theories, I’ll mention that the very nerdiest of my very nerdy friends from high school did the male-to-female thing a few years after high school. Huge science fiction fan, very socially awkward, etc. Only transsexual I’ve ever known personally.

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  34. @Grandpa Jack
    Let's not defame nerds and autistic folks by linking them with transgenderism. The vast majority are straight as anyone else whether or not they are successful at picking up chicks.

    And on the flip side, transgenders don't exactly strike me as the type to wear pocket protectors (Ewww- it would like totally clash with my nipple ring!) and do quantum mechanics mathematical formulations for fun on Friday night.
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    See?! Girls can be computer scientists too!
    , @PiltdownMan
    Lynn Conway is a huge name in electrical engineering. Respect.

    Looks like Lynn Conway's change happened in the same years as that of Wendy/Walter Carlos, another talented person with a name connected to electronic innovation, albeit of the musical sort.

    Interesting to note that Conway's doctor, Harry Benjamin, also 'treated' Wendy Carlos and previously, the famous Christine Jorgenson. Harry Benjamin was a German Jewish doctor who could have been straight out of central casting. With a bagful of theories about transsexualism he pretty much invented gender reassignment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Benjamin

  35. whorefinder says: • Website

    They may be both related to the over-surplus of males today. I’ve written about how it seems that female power grows when they are more males, and vice versa, due to the laws of supply and demand: the more the surplus of one sex, the more that sex caters to the whims of the minority sex due to mating needs.

    So men at the bottom of the sexual marketplace “transition to female,” and thus :(1) avoid being the bottom of the male social order; (2) get to be “special” and noticeable; and (3) become part of the sex in more demand, immediately becoming more powerful. And there are so many “hungry” men that they might take a chance on a tranny in a moment of weakness (of course most tranny men just want lesbians, but that’s another topic, although probably related).

    This is also why “gay men” become more prominent when societies are in soft times: soft times=fewer men dying in wars/hardships=surplus of men. Men who are naturally more submissive/don’t want to fight go gay to avoid dying over female mates.

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    • Replies: @JEGG
    At present statistics show that only a small percentage (certainly no more than a fifth) of trans women are interested in getting sexually involved exclusively with lesbians. A much larger percentage want just men or see themselves as bisexual.
  36. OT:

    A few minutes ago, I was forced to listen to a television set blaring:

    a) Obama blowing hot air on the latest shooting of a black body
    b) A breathless Entertainment Tonight report on Rich Cohen’s Margot Riddie profile in Vanity Fair

    Cohen is on many a SJW’s shitlist right now. Not only did he belittle Riddie by “trivializing” her and her work, but he dissed all of Australia, as well. Or so ET would have us believe.

    The ET newsdrone interviewed Roxane Gay, who blasted the profile for “objectifying” and “infantilizing” Riddie.

    If you have never seen Roxane Gay in the flesh, so to speak, then let me tell you that there is not a man alive (or dead) who would ever objectify her. She is a dog – a great big mound of fatuousness.

    I haven’t read the article, but if it’s pissing off the likes of Roxane Gay, then Cohen’s a mensch in my book.

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  37. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    There aren't any guns in The Matrix movies, are there?

    There aren’t any guns in The Matrix movies, are there?

    Guns. Lots of guns

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  38. George says:

    Hey iSteve , autism + anthing bad gets Google hits:

    Autism + spree killing
    Autism + serial killer
    Autism + prostitute

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  39. MC says:
    @Steve Sailer
    http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/conway.html

    See?! Girls can be computer scientists too!

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  40. @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    It used to be called adults disagreeing, and/or each to his own taste. Now it’s diagnosed as mental illness. Every week a human behavior with zillion-year roots is added to psychopharmacology’s (and the state’s) arsenal of ways to profit and sort and corral the subject tax-cattle/cannon fodder.

    Also, note the irony inherent in your assertions: they will diagnose you as spectrum-disordered and order you disarmed. Tsk. Molon labe, dude.

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  41. Jefferson says:
    @fnn
    The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.

    “The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.”

    He is a White Hmong now for killing a Black man.

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    • Agree: Hodag
    • Replies: @syonredux

    “The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.”

    He is a White Hmong now for killing a Black man.
     
    I can already see the TN Coates editorial :"The first thing that immigrants learn in America is to fear and hate the suffering black body."
  42. Hodag says:

    As a nerd in my late 40s, the sci Fi and fantasy nerds of the Boomer generation were weird and damaged. I was the whole thing as a middle schooler, D and D, Conan, Star Trek and Wars, etc.

    There was a small sci Fi and fantasy bookstore in my town, an upstairs location with cheap rent. In retrospect a very good selection of genre books. A husband and wife ran the joint, hippies who smelled of incense. They continually tried to talk to me and finally I finally asked for a sci Fi recommendations. They talked me into Stranger in a Strange Land.

    Still hate that book, with the groking and sex and whatnot. When I went back the owner really wanted to discuss the book, intimating that I might have wine and marijuana, and maybe have a go at his wife. I was 13.

    But what he didn’t know I was a Catholic school lad and an alter boy, and I had spent years dodging better pederasts than he. The fool!

    Anyway, look up how many pederasts were active in sci Fi and fantasy and still are. Vox Day has written extensively on this topic.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Agreed. Stranger in a Strange Land was a dumb book.
  43. vinny says:
    @Steve Sailer
    http://www.twincities.com/2016/02/02/stpaul-police-department-diversity/

    Among St. Paul’s officers, the only racial or ethnic group with a larger share of officers than in 2007 are Asians; other groups have slightly lost ground.

    Four percent of the city’s officers were Asian in 2007 and, as of the beginning of January, they made up nearly 8 percent of the department; most are Hmong, according to the Minnesota Asian Peace Officers Association. Sixteen percent of St. Paul’s population is Asian.

    Seven of the 19 officers who graduated from the academy Tuesday are Asian, including the only woman in the class. Two officers are Hispanic men and the remaining 10 are white men.

    This did not happen in St. Paul but in the nearby suburb of Falcon Heights, which is probably too small to have its own police force; I think I read it was St. Anthony PD or something.

    Incidentally, a couple of years ago I was dating a woman who lived just a few blocks from where this shooting happened and, almost every time I would go visit, there was someone pulled over for something. Another small poor municipality that doesn’t generate enough wealth to maintain its infrastructure or pay its employees, so has to shake down people driving on its roads. Ferguson is the same way, with the same stories of police harassment.

    Another related anecdote: on Easter Sunday morning this year, I was waiting 2.5 miles south of the shooting location, waiting for the light rail to take me to church, and saw a solitary St Paul police officer in a wrestling match with a much larger black guy. The black guy eventually exhausted the police officer, and despite having been tazed on the ground, broke free and started running down the street. Unfortunately for him, he ran in the exact direction from which the reinforcements were coming and was thrown to the ground by a large contingent of well rested officers and arrested. I rather was impressed by the original officer’s restraint. How often does that sort of thing happen but we never hear about it?

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    That's the problem with the picture of the world you get from both old media and Youtubed cellphone videos. Nobody uploads the video that shows the cop calmly calming down the belligerent drunk/crazy person and resolving the situation peacefully.
  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The Wachowskis never seemed effeminate. Quite the contrary, they sounded quite masculine:

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  45. Dirk Dagger says: • Website
    @vinny
    This Minnesota one we're never going to stop hearing about. It took 'em a couple of years, but they finally found a black body victim who had a job and no record and was pretty much minding his own business at the time. It sounds like he had his life pretty well put together too. Poor guy. Sad.

    Philando was a straight A student at St. Paul Central High School.

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  46. CJ says:
    @AndrewR
    I hope that is unintentional but either way I'm laughing way too hard at it.

    I pronounce it almost like a German speaker, Ahs-pear-ger, in order to avoid saying "ass burgers."

    Ha ha, I’ve tried to enunciate the “p” sound, but then it comes out “ass purgers”.

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  47. BenKenobi says:
    @AndrewR
    I hope that is unintentional but either way I'm laughing way too hard at it.

    I pronounce it almost like a German speaker, Ahs-pear-ger, in order to avoid saying "ass burgers."

    There was a South Park episode centered around that joke. Coincidental to our topic at hand (the Wachowksis were mentioned), there was a Matrix angle.

    Quick summary: The Asbergers patients were an expy of Morpheus’ team, and the disorder was all an act. They escaped “The Matrix” by getting drunk. Hilarity ensued.

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  48. Ola says: • Website

    Remarkably many of the most renowned game programmers and hardware designers of the early 80s later “transitioned” to female. Dan Bunten, Steve Kitchen, William Mataga, Jay Fenton, Bill Heineman and Roger Wilson are just some off the top of my head. There are many more.

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    • Replies: @wren
    What games and hardware did those guys produce?
  49. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave Pinsen
    Was thinking about the coincidence of these happening heading into a general election season. But both of those videos look pretty damning.

    I also think the tendency on the left to put everything in pre-Civil Rights racial terms obscures something important and relatively new. Cops weren't always this quick on the trigger. They might have been quick with a nightstick or taser instead.

    The shooting of obviously non-threatening dogs by cops seems a relatively new phenomenon by cops too, and may be related.

    At least with dogs, cops are getting touchy because half of all dogs out there seem to be pit bulls nowadays, and their behavior cannot be trusted. As for blacks, they’ve been getting more reckless and violent from about the 1970s on, and they care less about the consequences. The decline of a proper family unit in the black community means they’re becoming less socialized in what the norms of society are, and they’re more prone to godawful behavior. This makes cops paranoid.

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    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    Someone once explained that if a boy doesn't have regular, stable male influence (i.e., a father) and is raised by women he's not necessarily going to figure out how to deal with male authority on his own. He may assume that what works with female relatives and teachers - cajoling, obstinance, probing/pushing boundaries is not going to work with male police officers who are trained to maintain control of a situation. If the police are the first male authority figures one encounters, this will be a very bad mix. The theme of a lot of these officer-involved shootings seems to fit the pattern - resisting, obstinate refusal to follow the officer's orders, etc. that gets progressively escalated past a point of no return.

    Of course, cherry-picking incidents to fit a narrative and telling young blacks that police are likely to shoot you for no reason makes blacks less compliant and those same sorts of scenarios more likely, but I imagine that's just to cost of doing business for the people pushing the narrative.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    See: http://www.dogmurders.com/

    Shar-peis, chocolate Labradors, etc.

    There's a problem.
    , @NOTA
    Up until this year, crime rates had spent the last couple decades falling; they're still falling most places. I don't really see how that's consistent with your explanation.
  50. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    Not really. If you look at say, “NutNFancy” and other gun enthusiasts on Youtube (Hickock45, the Yankee Marshall, etc.) they fit a pattern. Almost all ex-military. Many ex law enforcement. They have a fascination with WEAPONS, which is what a gun is when you get down to it, that say Spartan hoplites and Roman Centurions would have appreciated. Ditto say, notorious Old West bad man John Wesley Hardin and Hickock himself. Looking at the men in the Youtube videos, and their hobbies (hunting, backpacking, hiking, fishing) … nerdy is not what comes to mind.

    You don’t have to take my word for it, see for yourself. NutNFancy for example has a video just about survival firestarters that he tests out in the Utah mountain snow.

    As for science fiction, it is no longer a male nerd’s paradise or even very male. Its mostly now … women. Go look at the Science Fiction book section at your local Barnes and Noble. Besides “Teen Paranormal Romance” there is just row after row after row of books oriented towards women: Lesbian wereseal sex in space, Dinosaur pr0n (no I’m NOT kidding either), along with the fantasy stuff like Mermaids and werewolf fashionistas. No I’m NOT kidding on that area either.

    Sci-fi is in a crisis just like Comic Books, because both cater to an aging, over-forty fanbase that is “very selective” (i.e. weird, hard-left, mostly female) and has the appeal to a 13 year old boy that would equal say, any of the Wachowski’s later flops.

    This is why ebook stuff like Larry Correia’s Monster Hunter series and various Harry Turtledove style alternative military histories are not published anymore, but go direct to ebook. [As has the Gor series by John Norman who was canned by his publisher for being un-PC]. Heck Mike Resnick was tossed out of the SFWA leadership because he was old, White, male, and appealed to White male fans. Sci-Fi publishing and fandom has become a toxic stew of PC and Diversity witch-hunting, with garbage published by Black/Female writers because they are not White men.

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    • Replies: @ATX Hipster
    Larry Correia did the Lord's work when he created Sad Puppies.

    Your comment gave me a chuckle because I know the dinosaur pr0n you're referring to. I came across The Furred Reich the other day on amazon, which presumably involves Nazis having sex with anthropomorphic animals.
  51. Whiskey says: • Website

    On the Mike Resnick thing, link here. On John Norman and the Gor series link here. Anywhere from six to twelve million copies of his books sold, and Norman got dropped by DAW and could not get published at all by anyone from 1988 to 2001

    Doesn’t sound too nerdy to me. PC heck yeah. But not nerdy.

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  52. O'really says:

    The only transgender person I ever had a conversation with was a former NASA engineer, and it was not Lynn Conway or Christine Bland or Rebecca Oppenheimer. This individual was comfortably over 6 feet tall and built like a linebacker.

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  53. Anon7 says:

    “It’s not clear if autism, Asperger’s, and/or nerdism is becoming more common, but it’s definitely more of an identity than it once was.”

    Mostly women who sense a fashion-based way to beat men at their own game. When you go to parent-teacher night and your kid’s STEM teacher is a young woman with black glasses who squeals “I’m a total math nerd”, you’d better budget $60 per week for tutoring.

    As for Heinlein, one of the characters in his 1941 novel Methuselah’s Children merges her identity with an alien combined mind, submerging her self to avoid death. I think he was a pretty flexible thinker all along as far as identity is concerned.

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  54. @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    I doubt it. Guns are relatively simple machines. Appreciation and fascination with mechanical instruments is just healthy, normal masculinity.

    Also, people on the Autism Spectrum are noise-sensitive and lack normal spatial awareness, so it’s unlikely that they’d be drawn to shooting sports.

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  55. syonredux says:
    @Jefferson
    "The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong."

    He is a White Hmong now for killing a Black man.

    “The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.”

    He is a White Hmong now for killing a Black man.

    I can already see the TN Coates editorial :”The first thing that immigrants learn in America is to fear and hate the suffering black body.”

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "I can already see the TN Coates editorial :”The first thing that immigrants learn in America is to fear and hate the suffering black body.”

    TN Coates will probably say that Asian immigrants suspicion of Black males as seedy is their way of trying to assimilate into Whiteness.
  56. There’s a slightly alarming tendency among what Vox Day calls “Omega males” to desire castration in order to be set free from their unfulfilled desires, see here and the comment section: http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2015/01/target-omega.html

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  57. Jefferson says:
    @syonredux

    “The Minnesota police shooter looks like he could be Hmong.”

    He is a White Hmong now for killing a Black man.
     
    I can already see the TN Coates editorial :"The first thing that immigrants learn in America is to fear and hate the suffering black body."

    “I can already see the TN Coates editorial :”The first thing that immigrants learn in America is to fear and hate the suffering black body.”

    TN Coates will probably say that Asian immigrants suspicion of Black males as seedy is their way of trying to assimilate into Whiteness.

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  58. Simonini says:

    I haven’t read All You Zombies, but Heinlein did not have nice things to say about transsexuals in Time Enough For Love, referring to them as monsters.

    Fortunately, the main character finds a way to satisfy his curiosity about his potential female self by creating two clones with 2 copies of his X chromosome and no Y. When they are teenagers, he engages them in a threesome.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Andrew Jackson "Slipstick" Libby is a fictional character featured in the "Future History" series of science fiction novels by Robert A. Heinlein. He is an enormously talented and intuitive mathematician, but received little formal education. His talent was first appreciated in the short story Misfit, where he helps guide an asteroid into the correct orbit after the guidance computer has failed.

    In later stories he changes sex to become Elizabeth Andrew Jackson Libby.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson_Libby
    , @NOTA
    I'm pretty sure one of his older characters (Libby) showed up in that book as a woman. In general, if you're looking for traditional sexual morality, Heinlein in his later years ain't your guy. Later on in Time Enough for Love, Lazarus turns out to be a real time-traveling motherfucker.
    , @Pericles
    Then there was I Will Fear No Evil, where an old geezer gets transplanted into the body of a hot young woman.
  59. @AndrewR
    "Biophobia" implies a fear of life.

    I'd go with biologiphobia. Not as short but more clear: the fear of admitting uncomfortable biological truths

    “Biophobia” implies a fear of life.

    Does it though? Do people misunderstand “homophobia” to mean “fear of the same”? You even have words like “biotechnology”, where the “bio-” means “biological”, not life.

    Having said that, “biophobia” doesn’t really work for me either. Too literal to be memorable. But I don’t have any better ideas.

    We need a term like “cuckservative”- the meaning may not immediately be obvious to everyone, but once you figure it out, you never forget it.

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    • Replies: @tbraton
    I thought "biophobia" was fear of biographies. The guy who created the musical "Hamilton" is definitely a "biophile" since the musical which has made him very wealthy is based on Rod Chernow's biography "Alexander Hamilton."
    , @I, Libertine
    Homophobia. A word that grates, for exactly the reason you describe. I thought I was the only one.
  60. @Anon
    At least with dogs, cops are getting touchy because half of all dogs out there seem to be pit bulls nowadays, and their behavior cannot be trusted. As for blacks, they've been getting more reckless and violent from about the 1970s on, and they care less about the consequences. The decline of a proper family unit in the black community means they're becoming less socialized in what the norms of society are, and they're more prone to godawful behavior. This makes cops paranoid.

    Someone once explained that if a boy doesn’t have regular, stable male influence (i.e., a father) and is raised by women he’s not necessarily going to figure out how to deal with male authority on his own. He may assume that what works with female relatives and teachers – cajoling, obstinance, probing/pushing boundaries is not going to work with male police officers who are trained to maintain control of a situation. If the police are the first male authority figures one encounters, this will be a very bad mix. The theme of a lot of these officer-involved shootings seems to fit the pattern – resisting, obstinate refusal to follow the officer’s orders, etc. that gets progressively escalated past a point of no return.

    Of course, cherry-picking incidents to fit a narrative and telling young blacks that police are likely to shoot you for no reason makes blacks less compliant and those same sorts of scenarios more likely, but I imagine that’s just to cost of doing business for the people pushing the narrative.

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    I womder if that's really a learned thing, or if the effect is just genes--the kind of dad who doesn't stick around tends to have kids who have problems with authoritty.
  61. Transgenderism, particularly in your third category, is more than likely the psychological breakdown under the weight of stress in holding two contradictory beliefs in equilibrium, aka Cognitive Dissonance.

    The increasing prevalence of all forms of Judeo-perversion are most likely due to this psychological breakdown. Decades of cultural attack via MSM and school curricula promoting the inversion of biological fact would only result in such a breakdown.

    For example, Google Doodles celebrated the 155th birthday of Nettie Stevens with a doodle showing the xy chromosome.

    Rather than note the ironclad law of sex, and not gender, some magazines went into full on bitch mode that Stevens was a victim of xy bigotry!

    How does one hold “Why do boys become boys and girls become girls? In her pioneering work at Bryn Mawr College, Stevens discovered the sex chromosomes that make the difference.” and “Wilson still believed environmental factors played a role in determining sex. Stevens said it was purely the chromosomes. Neither view could be confirmed absolutely at the time of the discovery.”“But though time proved Stevens correct,…” with the typical mainstream cultural-marxist notion that sex is actually gender, which is in FACT strictly assigned due *to* environmental factors!?

    The strain of cognitive dissonance is too much, Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; transgenderism, which in actual fact is self-harm/self-mutilation, results, and is applauded as the vanguard of a new and better people.

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    • Replies: @Tacitus2016
    In the past girls with Borderline Personality Disorder would be covered with cuts and scars. Now they are covered with tattoos. In the past schizophenics yabbering to themselves would attract attention. Now we assume they are using a cellphone. In the past parents deliberately harming their children for the drama would go to jail. Now they go on Dr Phil to talk about their trans children. Integration of a sort.
  62. My roommate is a Female to male transgender. He is generally quiet, not real book smart… kinda nerdy maybe. His girlfriend is a flaky leftist type.

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  63. I think there is something else going on.

    I am an engineer around 50. So I grew up with engineers, D&D nerds, computer nerds, chess nerds, and so on.

    And while there is the element of dysfunction in those groups, my overall impression of my peers in high school/college was that they were essentially conservative. Not religious conservative, but more like libertarian conservative. They were more rational than the population at large, tended to be cynical of trends (being generally outsiders) , more logical, and would simply see mass movement/trendy progressivism as faddish nonsense. Essentially, the way you imagine NASA engineers in the 1960′s: old fashioned conservative due to their hyperrationalism.

    This has changed. As one example: I don’t get why reddit-generally, a population of computer literates-is overwhelmingly progressive. Thirty years ago, those types would have been disdainful of progressivism. They would have been race realists, for instance, because race realism is simply more logical (not saying they would have expressed it publicly).

    And this observation holds in many engineering/scientific subcultures.

    So in my experience, something fundamental has changed in the attitudes of scientific/mathematical people. They are no longer cynics, but fully embrace the wider (progressive, or liberal) culture.

    So I’m not convinced that ‘autism spectrum’ somehow correlates to transvestitism. Rather, it seems that autism spectrum may correlate to transvestitism today. Why today and not one, or two, generations ago? I don’t know.

    joeyjoejoe

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    I know a whole bunch of scientists, and that's a spot on description of them. They've become progressive loons who refuse to subject progressive politics to rational analysis, and they won't even give the briefest look at race theory, IQ testing, genetic inheritance of personality traits, etc.

    My theory is that when scientists gave up traditional Christian religions, they substituted progressive politics for their religion because the religious urge doesn't go away so easily. This might also explain why they're so wildly defensive about Islam. The less scientists know about Islam, the more they defend it and make excuses for it. It occupies a mystical, unexamined, protected spot in their brain the way a religion does, and they don't even seem to be aware of this phenomenon, even though they don't believe in Islam.

    Liberals have a whole basketful of psychological defense mechanisms that set to work inside their brains at the first sign of discomfort to both their egos and world view.

    , @Lurker

    As one example: I don’t get why reddit-generally, a population of computer literates-is overwhelmingly progressive. Thirty years ago, those types would have been disdainful of progressivism. They would have been race realists, for instance, because race realism is simply more logical (not saying they would have expressed it publicly).
     
    Are we sure we're talking about an equivalent group of people? Lots of computer literate people are on Reddit sure, but are they actually the successors to those earlier conservative geek/nerd types. Or are they actually a lower tier of people who merely happen to use computers in their regular work?

    In a similar vein, there was something on the TV here recently about women in 'tech' as they kept calling it because these days women use computers as much as men! Turns out what they mean is spending hours a day faffing about on Facebook. They are not programing the guidance system on a lunar lander.

    These days anyone swiping away at their smartphone and downloading apps is flattered by the conceit that they are at the cutting edge of technology - rather than merely glorified consumers of it.

    , @EvolutionistX
    Mainstream Republicans--especially the"Religious Right"--have been very vocally anti-science, (especially evolution, but also global warming, stem cell research, etc.) for decades. They're also often vocally anti-universities, where a lot of STEM folks are employed. None of this attracts scientists to identify as "conservative."

    Back in my day (about a decade ago,) the "nerds" were still noticeably more "libertarian" than the humanities majors, but did not under any circumstances identify as "conservative." Conservatives were practically a different species than ourselves, the rural denizens of far-off red states. Toward the end of my days, SJW-ianism was really getting going, and most of the nerds converted to it, some because they really believed in it from a theoretical perspective--that is, they decided that "privilege" and other such concepts were real and explained differences in group outcomes, and therefore we couldn't have a libertarian paradise until we first eliminated structural racism--and some because it was just the general cultural broth in which they were stewing. Today, I suspect all respectable people at any kind of university and probably most jobs that employ university-trained people at least parrot some version of SJW thought in order to avoid looking like one of those "conservatives."

    Some STEM folks, though, went the opposite direction, into various strains of alt-right/NRx thought.
  64. FKA Max says:

    I think transgenderism is one of the ways for high IQ individuals to cope with their high IQ in a low/average IQ world. A form of escapism, self-medication, and distraction if you will, in my opinion.

    Psychological and Social Disorders of High IQ

    Published on Feb 24, 2013

    “Psychological and Social Disorders of High IQ,” Jennifer Carl, Valencia College
    While it is easy to assume someone’s psychological well-being, it is often masked by a crucial factor: IQ. People outside the normal IQ range often face unique psychological and psycho-social disorders. Individuals with higher IQs usually exhibit certain characteristics that are many times overlooked. Here we will discuss this side of the spectrum and many adversities these individuals must overcome in society and within themselves.

    Presented at Florida Collegiate Honors Council 2013

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  65. @Hodag
    As a nerd in my late 40s, the sci Fi and fantasy nerds of the Boomer generation were weird and damaged. I was the whole thing as a middle schooler, D and D, Conan, Star Trek and Wars, etc.

    There was a small sci Fi and fantasy bookstore in my town, an upstairs location with cheap rent. In retrospect a very good selection of genre books. A husband and wife ran the joint, hippies who smelled of incense. They continually tried to talk to me and finally I finally asked for a sci Fi recommendations. They talked me into Stranger in a Strange Land.

    Still hate that book, with the groking and sex and whatnot. When I went back the owner really wanted to discuss the book, intimating that I might have wine and marijuana, and maybe have a go at his wife. I was 13.

    But what he didn't know I was a Catholic school lad and an alter boy, and I had spent years dodging better pederasts than he. The fool!

    Anyway, look up how many pederasts were active in sci Fi and fantasy and still are. Vox Day has written extensively on this topic.

    Agreed. Stranger in a Strange Land was a dumb book.

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    RE: Heinlein's fiction,

    General Rule: Don't bother reading anything that he wrote after The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (1966)
  66. Do not forget about John Scalzi. He is a fat, balding, beta nerd who is a cross-dresser. Plus his daughter can bench more than he can.

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  67. syonredux says:
    @Simonini
    I haven't read All You Zombies, but Heinlein did not have nice things to say about transsexuals in Time Enough For Love, referring to them as monsters.

    Fortunately, the main character finds a way to satisfy his curiosity about his potential female self by creating two clones with 2 copies of his X chromosome and no Y. When they are teenagers, he engages them in a threesome.

    Andrew Jackson “Slipstick” Libby is a fictional character featured in the “Future History” series of science fiction novels by Robert A. Heinlein. He is an enormously talented and intuitive mathematician, but received little formal education. His talent was first appreciated in the short story Misfit, where he helps guide an asteroid into the correct orbit after the guidance computer has failed.

    In later stories he changes sex to become Elizabeth Andrew Jackson Libby.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson_Libby

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  68. syonredux says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    Agreed. Stranger in a Strange Land was a dumb book.

    RE: Heinlein’s fiction,

    General Rule: Don’t bother reading anything that he wrote after The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (1966)

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  69. JimB says:

    Hmm. Pure speculation on my part but perhaps there is an alternative reason geeks are into gender reassignment. And the reason might be related to their long, desolate slog through undergraduate and graduate STEM departments. Anyone who went through this nearly all male and totally shitty experience knows that in the land of coding nerds and hardware dweebs, the one rather plain looking female with stringy hair, a facial mole, thick glasses, and mismatched breasts residing a the lab is queen of the roost. This queen will be invited to every social event and have the pick of the geeks, usually choosing the one most approximating an alpha, leaving all the other geeks to lie awake at night on their monastic pallets fantasizing about how popular they would be if they were a hot chick working in the lab.

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    JimB, you might have something here. Men project territoriality (but not if you are a geek); and women project sexuality. The sexuality allows women to roam freely throughout male territorial projections without negative consequences. Indeed, they are invited and valued guests.

    Being on the outside (of male territoriality) and looking in, geeks don't effectively project male territoriality and likewise don't project female sexuality. The are typically socially isolated and alone and live a neutered existence. Being without male alpha qualities and the prospect of obtaining them, the idea of socially functioning as a female definitely has its appeal and advantages. Having somewhat of a feminized personality and physique, they are already 50% of the way there.

  70. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anon
    At least with dogs, cops are getting touchy because half of all dogs out there seem to be pit bulls nowadays, and their behavior cannot be trusted. As for blacks, they've been getting more reckless and violent from about the 1970s on, and they care less about the consequences. The decline of a proper family unit in the black community means they're becoming less socialized in what the norms of society are, and they're more prone to godawful behavior. This makes cops paranoid.

    See: http://www.dogmurders.com/

    Shar-peis, chocolate Labradors, etc.

    There’s a problem.

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  71. @Thomas
    There might be a better word someone has come up with, but I'm increasingly using the term "biophobia" to describe resistance or aversion to the idea that biology and biological factors influence, constrain, or affect the human condition. You see it many places relevant to this blog: aversion to HBD, transgenderism, blank-slatism, nurture over nature, etc., and also in other areas I expect are of relevance to many readers of this blog (the analysis of sexual attraction that comes with Heartiste-style game/PUA examinations, for example).

    It's all the more interesting because in other areas, the idea that the natural world has imposed limits or constraints on human progress has become uncontroversial. Environmentalism is the best example. In thinking about human ability and the human form itself, though, the conventional wisdom seems firmly stuck somewhere around the mid-20th century.

    The main correlations of gynephilic MtF trans are with high IQ, being white or oriental, and being left-handed or ambidextrous. This suggest it’s strongly correlated with a high level of brain laterisation (increased specialisation of the brain hemispheres for maximum cognitive performance).

    My theory: white and probably oriental males tend to have more strongly lateralised brain than males of other races for intelligence/technical ability reasons. This greater brain lateralisation leaves the brains of white males more vulnerable to fluctuations in male hormone levels in the womb (latest studies into MtF trans brains show lack of brain masculination in a number of key areas related to sex indentity). Hence the high levels of MtF transsexualism and crossdressing seen among white and oriental males.

    Note that lack of brain masculinisation is not the same as brain feminisation. A male who’s brain is feminised is likely to show female behaviour traits, such as good people skills and a tendency to be emotional rather than logical. A male who’s brain’s isn’t sexually masculinised is more likely to have some male-typical traits such as high spatial intelligence but also have a higher level of introversion or neuroticism.

    The effeminate androphilic trannies experience both brain masculination and brain feminisation. Also since, they act like girly females from an early age, their bodies will be somewhat feminised through lack of protein, lack of weight bearing exercise, submissive sex with males etc (submissive sex lowers male hormone levels, which is one reason there is such a big social stigma attached to it by hetero males).

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    I meant to write effeminate androphilic trannies experience both insufficient brain masculinisation and a high level of brain feminisation.

    Brain studies to date show gay males tend to have relatively feminine brains, while both androphilic and gynephilic transsexuals show evidence of insufficient brain masculinisation.
  72. Sounds like you’re talking about high effort transsexuals and low effort transsexuals.

    Low effort ones are typically the nerds you’re talking about. They grow their hair long, maybe go on hormones in their 20s and 30s, and claim to be lesbians. They also go full on SJW nonsense.

    High effort trannies are the ones who go on hormones pre-puberty, dive right into the whole girl thing, and end up dating competitive bodybuilders, MMA fighters, and other high testosterone types. If they avoid sex work you see a lot of them as make up artists, beautician work, and nursing more and more lately, interestingly enough. This latter group seems to have less of the social dysgenics associated with transgenderism.

    There’s definitely an overlap between bodybuilders and transsexuals, as far as the two groups interactions go. Something with the body dysmorphia maybe? IDK.

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  73. wren says:
    @Ola
    Remarkably many of the most renowned game programmers and hardware designers of the early 80s later "transitioned" to female. Dan Bunten, Steve Kitchen, William Mataga, Jay Fenton, Bill Heineman and Roger Wilson are just some off the top of my head. There are many more.

    What games and hardware did those guys produce?

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    Has Ron ever weighed in on any of this aspie culture stuff?

    It seems be could bring much more to the table than just cash.
    , @Ola
    Dan Bunten: Star programmer/designer of early Electronic Arts. Most famous games were probably M.U.L.E and Seven Cities of Gold

    Steve Kitchen: Early Activision, games for the Atari VCS/2600 like Space Shuttle

    William Mataga: Still making games, but known mostly for Shamus for Atari 400/800 and many other 8-bit computers

    Jay Fenton: Mostly known for Bally Midway arcade games like Gorf. But he also did lots of conversion work for 8-bit computers like the C64 during the 80s

    Roger Wilson: Acorn Microcomputer (very big in the UK) and instruction set for the Acorn RISC Machine

    Bill Heineman: One of the founders of Interplay. Known for adventure games and RPGs like Tass Times in Tonetown and Bard's Tale III

    These were all guys I was very familiar with as 10-year-old Swedish kid reading American and British gaming mags. They mostly "transitioned" during the 90s. I found it very odd (well... still do) but have since then been convinced that there is a link between extreme nerdiness and male to female trans people.

  74. wren says:
    @wren
    What games and hardware did those guys produce?

    Has Ron ever weighed in on any of this aspie culture stuff?

    It seems be could bring much more to the table than just cash.

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  75. Svigor says:
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    Agreed. When I originally saw that photo I thought it had to be the Global President from new SF dystopia movie. Let's face it, it's going to look like Hillary, Christine Lagarde or this woman, not Jodi Foster in Elysium.
  76. @AndrewR
    I hope that is unintentional but either way I'm laughing way too hard at it.

    I pronounce it almost like a German speaker, Ahs-pear-ger, in order to avoid saying "ass burgers."

    There may be nothing wrong at laughing at this – I assume you feel Asperger victims are morally culpable for not trying harder to avoid showing the typical traits their genes tried to force on them, and so it is ok to laugh at them. Well, your apparently unempathetic laughter is not all that important in the scheme of things, and I hope you never have to face the fact that you or a family member suffers from the symptoms of Aspergers. Many of the symptoms are very unpleasant – selfish excitability with average and, to tell the truth, generally paltry intellectual achievements, which were, however boring and paltry, won at a cost most of us would not have given – lack of inborn easy comfort with empathy – genes-driven failure to consider why other people enjoy living in a world where the difference between the sexes is the most important fact of social life – gene-driven inability to, without great effort, raise children in the way children deserve, and so on. If you are laughing at people who suffer these shortcomings through no fault of their own then maybe it is you who have the more serious problem with a lack of empathy. I care about my friends and one of the prayers I say for them is that their children will not suffer in this way. I get it that it was “just a joke” but still …

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    Sorry if that sounded harsh, but I feel certain you would have had no problem not laughing at a stupid pun involving other neurological problems . People generally have no problem not laughing at Alzheimer's victims and Down's syndrome sufferers.
  77. Trelane says:

    Lt. Hikaru Sulu, in the soon-to-be released film Star Trek Beyond, will be a gay man portrayed as “normal” and otherwise unremarkable. Simply a gay man with his “husband” and adopted daughter.

    Nevermind the Cochran hypothesis it would seem. In the future, as portrayed here in the (Hollywood) present, homosexuality is not a disorder, nor a pathology or a maladaptative trait, but merely a variation of the sort that forms snowflakes! How wonderful! And unicorns too!

    Trelane is very, very angry.

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    "Lt. Hikaru Sulu, in the soon-to-be released film Star Trek Beyond, will be a gay man portrayed as “normal” and otherwise unremarkable."

    Curious. George Takei was always very clear that he was homosexual, but the character he portrayed was not.
  78. NOTA says:
    @vinny
    This did not happen in St. Paul but in the nearby suburb of Falcon Heights, which is probably too small to have its own police force; I think I read it was St. Anthony PD or something.

    Incidentally, a couple of years ago I was dating a woman who lived just a few blocks from where this shooting happened and, almost every time I would go visit, there was someone pulled over for something. Another small poor municipality that doesn't generate enough wealth to maintain its infrastructure or pay its employees, so has to shake down people driving on its roads. Ferguson is the same way, with the same stories of police harassment.

    Another related anecdote: on Easter Sunday morning this year, I was waiting 2.5 miles south of the shooting location, waiting for the light rail to take me to church, and saw a solitary St Paul police officer in a wrestling match with a much larger black guy. The black guy eventually exhausted the police officer, and despite having been tazed on the ground, broke free and started running down the street. Unfortunately for him, he ran in the exact direction from which the reinforcements were coming and was thrown to the ground by a large contingent of well rested officers and arrested. I rather was impressed by the original officer's restraint. How often does that sort of thing happen but we never hear about it?

    That’s the problem with the picture of the world you get from both old media and Youtubed cellphone videos. Nobody uploads the video that shows the cop calmly calming down the belligerent drunk/crazy person and resolving the situation peacefully.

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    Nobody uploads the video that shows the cop calmly calming down the belligerent drunk/crazy person and resolving the situation peacefully.
     
    Sure they do. But nobody watches it.

    It's kind of like track and field in the sports section. It's there if you look for it.
  79. NOTA says:
    @Anon
    At least with dogs, cops are getting touchy because half of all dogs out there seem to be pit bulls nowadays, and their behavior cannot be trusted. As for blacks, they've been getting more reckless and violent from about the 1970s on, and they care less about the consequences. The decline of a proper family unit in the black community means they're becoming less socialized in what the norms of society are, and they're more prone to godawful behavior. This makes cops paranoid.

    Up until this year, crime rates had spent the last couple decades falling; they’re still falling most places. I don’t really see how that’s consistent with your explanation.

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  80. @Pat Hannagan
    Transgenderism, particularly in your third category, is more than likely the psychological breakdown under the weight of stress in holding two contradictory beliefs in equilibrium, aka Cognitive Dissonance.

    The increasing prevalence of all forms of Judeo-perversion are most likely due to this psychological breakdown. Decades of cultural attack via MSM and school curricula promoting the inversion of biological fact would only result in such a breakdown.

    For example, Google Doodles celebrated the 155th birthday of Nettie Stevens with a doodle showing the xy chromosome.

    Rather than note the ironclad law of sex, and not gender, some magazines went into full on bitch mode that Stevens was a victim of xy bigotry!

    How does one hold "Why do boys become boys and girls become girls? In her pioneering work at Bryn Mawr College, Stevens discovered the sex chromosomes that make the difference." and "Wilson still believed environmental factors played a role in determining sex. Stevens said it was purely the chromosomes. Neither view could be confirmed absolutely at the time of the discovery." ... "But though time proved Stevens correct,..." with the typical mainstream cultural-marxist notion that sex is actually gender, which is in FACT strictly assigned due *to* environmental factors!?

    The strain of cognitive dissonance is too much, Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; transgenderism, which in actual fact is self-harm/self-mutilation, results, and is applauded as the vanguard of a new and better people.

    In the past girls with Borderline Personality Disorder would be covered with cuts and scars. Now they are covered with tattoos. In the past schizophenics yabbering to themselves would attract attention. Now we assume they are using a cellphone. In the past parents deliberately harming their children for the drama would go to jail. Now they go on Dr Phil to talk about their trans children. Integration of a sort.

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  81. @middle aged vet
    There may be nothing wrong at laughing at this - I assume you feel Asperger victims are morally culpable for not trying harder to avoid showing the typical traits their genes tried to force on them, and so it is ok to laugh at them. Well, your apparently unempathetic laughter is not all that important in the scheme of things, and I hope you never have to face the fact that you or a family member suffers from the symptoms of Aspergers. Many of the symptoms are very unpleasant - selfish excitability with average and, to tell the truth, generally paltry intellectual achievements, which were, however boring and paltry, won at a cost most of us would not have given - lack of inborn easy comfort with empathy - genes-driven failure to consider why other people enjoy living in a world where the difference between the sexes is the most important fact of social life - gene-driven inability to, without great effort, raise children in the way children deserve, and so on. If you are laughing at people who suffer these shortcomings through no fault of their own then maybe it is you who have the more serious problem with a lack of empathy. I care about my friends and one of the prayers I say for them is that their children will not suffer in this way. I get it that it was "just a joke" but still ...

    Sorry if that sounded harsh, but I feel certain you would have had no problem not laughing at a stupid pun involving other neurological problems . People generally have no problem not laughing at Alzheimer’s victims and Down’s syndrome sufferers.

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    Lighten tf up. My nephew has aspergers and I know what a sad thing it can be. But the dude wrote Assbergers. So chill.
  82. NOTA says:
    @Simonini
    I haven't read All You Zombies, but Heinlein did not have nice things to say about transsexuals in Time Enough For Love, referring to them as monsters.

    Fortunately, the main character finds a way to satisfy his curiosity about his potential female self by creating two clones with 2 copies of his X chromosome and no Y. When they are teenagers, he engages them in a threesome.

    I’m pretty sure one of his older characters (Libby) showed up in that book as a woman. In general, if you’re looking for traditional sexual morality, Heinlein in his later years ain’t your guy. Later on in Time Enough for Love, Lazarus turns out to be a real time-traveling motherfucker.

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    Andrew Jackson “Slipstick” Libby is a fictional character featured in the “Future History” series of science fiction novels by Robert A. Heinlein. He is an enormously talented and intuitive mathematician, but received little formal education. His talent was first appreciated in the short story Misfit, where he helps guide an asteroid into the correct orbit after the guidance computer has failed.

    In later stories he changes sex to become Elizabeth Andrew Jackson Libby.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson_Libby
  83. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @joeyjoejoe
    I think there is something else going on.

    I am an engineer around 50. So I grew up with engineers, D&D nerds, computer nerds, chess nerds, and so on.

    And while there is the element of dysfunction in those groups, my overall impression of my peers in high school/college was that they were essentially conservative. Not religious conservative, but more like libertarian conservative. They were more rational than the population at large, tended to be cynical of trends (being generally outsiders) , more logical, and would simply see mass movement/trendy progressivism as faddish nonsense. Essentially, the way you imagine NASA engineers in the 1960's: old fashioned conservative due to their hyperrationalism.

    This has changed. As one example: I don't get why reddit-generally, a population of computer literates-is overwhelmingly progressive. Thirty years ago, those types would have been disdainful of progressivism. They would have been race realists, for instance, because race realism is simply more logical (not saying they would have expressed it publicly).

    And this observation holds in many engineering/scientific subcultures.

    So in my experience, something fundamental has changed in the attitudes of scientific/mathematical people. They are no longer cynics, but fully embrace the wider (progressive, or liberal) culture.

    So I'm not convinced that 'autism spectrum' somehow correlates to transvestitism. Rather, it seems that autism spectrum may correlate to transvestitism today. Why today and not one, or two, generations ago? I don't know.

    joeyjoejoe

    I know a whole bunch of scientists, and that’s a spot on description of them. They’ve become progressive loons who refuse to subject progressive politics to rational analysis, and they won’t even give the briefest look at race theory, IQ testing, genetic inheritance of personality traits, etc.

    My theory is that when scientists gave up traditional Christian religions, they substituted progressive politics for their religion because the religious urge doesn’t go away so easily. This might also explain why they’re so wildly defensive about Islam. The less scientists know about Islam, the more they defend it and make excuses for it. It occupies a mystical, unexamined, protected spot in their brain the way a religion does, and they don’t even seem to be aware of this phenomenon, even though they don’t believe in Islam.

    Liberals have a whole basketful of psychological defense mechanisms that set to work inside their brains at the first sign of discomfort to both their egos and world view.

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    This might also explain why they're so wildly defensive about Islam.
     
    Not all of them. Take Richard Dawkins for instance, constantly criticising Islam as a religion, which is consistent with his general atheistic worldview. But if religions are merely human creations, then they reflect the biological traits of the people who created and practice them - they're part of their extended phenotype, to use the title of one of his books. That would mean that religion per se is not the problem. But that's a line of reasoning that Dawkins and his kind prefer not to pursue to its logical conclusion.
  84. NOTA says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Someone once explained that if a boy doesn't have regular, stable male influence (i.e., a father) and is raised by women he's not necessarily going to figure out how to deal with male authority on his own. He may assume that what works with female relatives and teachers - cajoling, obstinance, probing/pushing boundaries is not going to work with male police officers who are trained to maintain control of a situation. If the police are the first male authority figures one encounters, this will be a very bad mix. The theme of a lot of these officer-involved shootings seems to fit the pattern - resisting, obstinate refusal to follow the officer's orders, etc. that gets progressively escalated past a point of no return.

    Of course, cherry-picking incidents to fit a narrative and telling young blacks that police are likely to shoot you for no reason makes blacks less compliant and those same sorts of scenarios more likely, but I imagine that's just to cost of doing business for the people pushing the narrative.

    I womder if that’s really a learned thing, or if the effect is just genes–the kind of dad who doesn’t stick around tends to have kids who have problems with authoritty.

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  85. Warner says:
    @AndrewR
    "Biophobia" implies a fear of life.

    I'd go with biologiphobia. Not as short but more clear: the fear of admitting uncomfortable biological truths

    This biophobia or biologiophobia also has roots in fear of death. If a thing lives, it dies. If it transcends biology, it transcends death. Except that it doesn’t. But that is the technological hope.

    That in turn is related to the loss of hope stemming from the loss of religious faith.

    We are hardwired to want the infinite and the transcendental. Without hope in the divine, people transfer their hope to technology as a divine-like power.

    Thus at the end, it is idolatry.

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    When technology can actually keep you from dying, we don't call it "idolatry." We call it "effective health care."
  86. @Steve Sailer
    http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/conway.html

    Lynn Conway is a huge name in electrical engineering. Respect.

    Looks like Lynn Conway’s change happened in the same years as that of Wendy/Walter Carlos, another talented person with a name connected to electronic innovation, albeit of the musical sort.

    Interesting to note that Conway’s doctor, Harry Benjamin, also ‘treated’ Wendy Carlos and previously, the famous Christine Jorgenson. Harry Benjamin was a German Jewish doctor who could have been straight out of central casting. With a bagful of theories about transsexualism he pretty much invented gender reassignment.

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  87. syonredux says:
    @NOTA
    I'm pretty sure one of his older characters (Libby) showed up in that book as a woman. In general, if you're looking for traditional sexual morality, Heinlein in his later years ain't your guy. Later on in Time Enough for Love, Lazarus turns out to be a real time-traveling motherfucker.

    Andrew Jackson “Slipstick” Libby is a fictional character featured in the “Future History” series of science fiction novels by Robert A. Heinlein. He is an enormously talented and intuitive mathematician, but received little formal education. His talent was first appreciated in the short story Misfit, where he helps guide an asteroid into the correct orbit after the guidance computer has failed.

    In later stories he changes sex to become Elizabeth Andrew Jackson Libby.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson_Libby

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  88. tbraton says:
    @larry lurker

    “Biophobia” implies a fear of life.
     
    Does it though? Do people misunderstand "homophobia" to mean "fear of the same"? You even have words like "biotechnology", where the "bio-" means "biological", not life.

    Having said that, "biophobia" doesn't really work for me either. Too literal to be memorable. But I don't have any better ideas.

    We need a term like "cuckservative"- the meaning may not immediately be obvious to everyone, but once you figure it out, you never forget it.

    I thought “biophobia” was fear of biographies. The guy who created the musical “Hamilton” is definitely a “biophile” since the musical which has made him very wealthy is based on Rod Chernow’s biography “Alexander Hamilton.”

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  89. @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    Nerds also like first-person shooter computer games.

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  90. In several of Heinlein’s stories, an adult male character has a romantic relationship with an underage girl. This happens in:

    The Door Into Summer

    Have Spacesuit, Will Travel

    Time for the Stars

    and, Time Enough for Love.

    Has this aspect of Heinlein’s science fiction inspired nerds to try this in the real world?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Heinlein was a close fan of Nabokov.
    , @Lurker
    The Door Into Summer - but it's purely romantic in this case.

    If I remember correctly the assorted time traveling shenanigans end up with her being a suitably adult woman partner for the guy.

  91. @Warner
    This biophobia or biologiophobia also has roots in fear of death. If a thing lives, it dies. If it transcends biology, it transcends death. Except that it doesn't. But that is the technological hope.

    That in turn is related to the loss of hope stemming from the loss of religious faith.

    We are hardwired to want the infinite and the transcendental. Without hope in the divine, people transfer their hope to technology as a divine-like power.

    Thus at the end, it is idolatry.

    When technology can actually keep you from dying, we don’t call it “idolatry.” We call it “effective health care.”

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    I guess" effective health care" is pretty ineffective since everybody dies. Is this normal for an atheist to not understand what death is?
    , @Bies Podkrakowski
    True, but then the problem is: what to do with this life? At least till the next health emergency.
  92. @advancedatheist
    In several of Heinlein's stories, an adult male character has a romantic relationship with an underage girl. This happens in:

    The Door Into Summer

    Have Spacesuit, Will Travel

    Time for the Stars

    and, Time Enough for Love.

    Has this aspect of Heinlein's science fiction inspired nerds to try this in the real world?

    Heinlein was a close fan of Nabokov.

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  93. AndrewR says:
    @middle aged vet
    Sorry if that sounded harsh, but I feel certain you would have had no problem not laughing at a stupid pun involving other neurological problems . People generally have no problem not laughing at Alzheimer's victims and Down's syndrome sufferers.

    Lighten tf up. My nephew has aspergers and I know what a sad thing it can be. But the dude wrote Assbergers. So chill.

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    • Replies: @middle aged vet
    Andrew R - good response to my comment. For the record, I read your comment quickly, typed my comment, then reread your comment, realized my reply was incommensurately harsh, and tried to edit my comment. Due to the fact that I had been promised several minutes to edit my comment, I thought this would be no problem, but when I clicked on the edit rectangle, I was told I could no longer edit the comment, and the original comment reverted to its original state. So I tried to delete, which also did not work. I am not complaining, as I pay nothing for this website, I am just explaining. By the way, I have a relative with Asperger syndrome too. He was much older than me, succeeded in having children, and, unfortunately, nobody stepped in to prevent the Asperger victim from treating his children coldly and badly, although I like to think that he knew no better, and I like to think that the moral fault is not with him but with those who did not intervene. Out of deep compassion for his badly raised children, who suffered tremendously, and whom I number among my best friends on this earth, and out of deep compassion for him who would have been devastated if he ever fully realized what he had done and what he had failed to do because of a genetic problem that was not his fault, I am very sensitive about people taking the negative sides of Asperger syndrome lightly. So I will "chill", as you recommend, with respect to your laughter, and apologize for the word "unempathetic", but it would be wrong for me to "chill" with respect to the reason why I was motivated to reply to your comment.
  94. Following a few of the computer history and retrocomputing podcasts, it astonishes me how many of the second tier pioneers of this technology , as young men, are now old “women”.

    So far, though, no reports of Danielle Bricklin or Donna Lancaster have been observed.

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  95. Warner says:
    @advancedatheist
    When technology can actually keep you from dying, we don't call it "idolatry." We call it "effective health care."

    I guess” effective health care” is pretty ineffective since everybody dies. Is this normal for an atheist to not understand what death is?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Evidence that other humans have died is not indicitave that I will follow suit.

    In fact, the current trend suggests that I will continue to not die indefinitely, as has been the case for the last 14.8bn years.
  96. @unpc downunder
    The main correlations of gynephilic MtF trans are with high IQ, being white or oriental, and being left-handed or ambidextrous. This suggest it's strongly correlated with a high level of brain laterisation (increased specialisation of the brain hemispheres for maximum cognitive performance).

    My theory: white and probably oriental males tend to have more strongly lateralised brain than males of other races for intelligence/technical ability reasons. This greater brain lateralisation leaves the brains of white males more vulnerable to fluctuations in male hormone levels in the womb (latest studies into MtF trans brains show lack of brain masculination in a number of key areas related to sex indentity). Hence the high levels of MtF transsexualism and crossdressing seen among white and oriental males.

    Note that lack of brain masculinisation is not the same as brain feminisation. A male who's brain is feminised is likely to show female behaviour traits, such as good people skills and a tendency to be emotional rather than logical. A male who's brain's isn't sexually masculinised is more likely to have some male-typical traits such as high spatial intelligence but also have a higher level of introversion or neuroticism.

    The effeminate androphilic trannies experience both brain masculination and brain feminisation. Also since, they act like girly females from an early age, their bodies will be somewhat feminised through lack of protein, lack of weight bearing exercise, submissive sex with males etc (submissive sex lowers male hormone levels, which is one reason there is such a big social stigma attached to it by hetero males).

    I meant to write effeminate androphilic trannies experience both insufficient brain masculinisation and a high level of brain feminisation.

    Brain studies to date show gay males tend to have relatively feminine brains, while both androphilic and gynephilic transsexuals show evidence of insufficient brain masculinisation.

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  97. NickG says:
    @AndrewR
    "Biophobia" implies a fear of life.

    I'd go with biologiphobia. Not as short but more clear: the fear of admitting uncomfortable biological truths

    I’d go with biologiphobia. Not as short but more clear: the fear of admitting uncomfortable biological truths

    There is still the old work horse liberal creationist.

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  98. Ray P says:
    @Steve Sailer
    There aren't any guns in The Matrix movies, are there?

    The NRA could have a trans-sexual branch (lopped off)? “This is/isn’t the only pistol I’m packing.”

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    • Replies: @Psmith
    You've heard of the Pink Pistols, yes? "Armed gays don't get bashed"? The #shootback hashtag?

    (I suppose this is more general than transgenderism alone, but they're certainly under the umbrella, and best of luck to 'em.).
  99. Lurker says:
    @joeyjoejoe
    I think there is something else going on.

    I am an engineer around 50. So I grew up with engineers, D&D nerds, computer nerds, chess nerds, and so on.

    And while there is the element of dysfunction in those groups, my overall impression of my peers in high school/college was that they were essentially conservative. Not religious conservative, but more like libertarian conservative. They were more rational than the population at large, tended to be cynical of trends (being generally outsiders) , more logical, and would simply see mass movement/trendy progressivism as faddish nonsense. Essentially, the way you imagine NASA engineers in the 1960's: old fashioned conservative due to their hyperrationalism.

    This has changed. As one example: I don't get why reddit-generally, a population of computer literates-is overwhelmingly progressive. Thirty years ago, those types would have been disdainful of progressivism. They would have been race realists, for instance, because race realism is simply more logical (not saying they would have expressed it publicly).

    And this observation holds in many engineering/scientific subcultures.

    So in my experience, something fundamental has changed in the attitudes of scientific/mathematical people. They are no longer cynics, but fully embrace the wider (progressive, or liberal) culture.

    So I'm not convinced that 'autism spectrum' somehow correlates to transvestitism. Rather, it seems that autism spectrum may correlate to transvestitism today. Why today and not one, or two, generations ago? I don't know.

    joeyjoejoe

    As one example: I don’t get why reddit-generally, a population of computer literates-is overwhelmingly progressive. Thirty years ago, those types would have been disdainful of progressivism. They would have been race realists, for instance, because race realism is simply more logical (not saying they would have expressed it publicly).

    Are we sure we’re talking about an equivalent group of people? Lots of computer literate people are on Reddit sure, but are they actually the successors to those earlier conservative geek/nerd types. Or are they actually a lower tier of people who merely happen to use computers in their regular work?

    In a similar vein, there was something on the TV here recently about women in ‘tech’ as they kept calling it because these days women use computers as much as men! Turns out what they mean is spending hours a day faffing about on Facebook. They are not programing the guidance system on a lunar lander.

    These days anyone swiping away at their smartphone and downloading apps is flattered by the conceit that they are at the cutting edge of technology – rather than merely glorified consumers of it.

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    …these days women use computers as much as men! Turns out what they mean is spending hours a day faffing about on Facebook. They are not programing the guidance system on a lunar lander.
     
    "Lunar landers" aren't interested in women, either!

    They'd be the target of Venerean landers. The guidance systems if which/whom women are expert at programming.
  100. Lurker says:
    @advancedatheist
    In several of Heinlein's stories, an adult male character has a romantic relationship with an underage girl. This happens in:

    The Door Into Summer

    Have Spacesuit, Will Travel

    Time for the Stars

    and, Time Enough for Love.

    Has this aspect of Heinlein's science fiction inspired nerds to try this in the real world?

    The Door Into Summer – but it’s purely romantic in this case.

    If I remember correctly the assorted time traveling shenanigans end up with her being a suitably adult woman partner for the guy.

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  101. TheJester says:
    @JimB
    Hmm. Pure speculation on my part but perhaps there is an alternative reason geeks are into gender reassignment. And the reason might be related to their long, desolate slog through undergraduate and graduate STEM departments. Anyone who went through this nearly all male and totally shitty experience knows that in the land of coding nerds and hardware dweebs, the one rather plain looking female with stringy hair, a facial mole, thick glasses, and mismatched breasts residing a the lab is queen of the roost. This queen will be invited to every social event and have the pick of the geeks, usually choosing the one most approximating an alpha, leaving all the other geeks to lie awake at night on their monastic pallets fantasizing about how popular they would be if they were a hot chick working in the lab.

    JimB, you might have something here. Men project territoriality (but not if you are a geek); and women project sexuality. The sexuality allows women to roam freely throughout male territorial projections without negative consequences. Indeed, they are invited and valued guests.

    Being on the outside (of male territoriality) and looking in, geeks don’t effectively project male territoriality and likewise don’t project female sexuality. The are typically socially isolated and alone and live a neutered existence. Being without male alpha qualities and the prospect of obtaining them, the idea of socially functioning as a female definitely has its appeal and advantages. Having somewhat of a feminized personality and physique, they are already 50% of the way there.

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  102. @larry lurker

    “Biophobia” implies a fear of life.
     
    Does it though? Do people misunderstand "homophobia" to mean "fear of the same"? You even have words like "biotechnology", where the "bio-" means "biological", not life.

    Having said that, "biophobia" doesn't really work for me either. Too literal to be memorable. But I don't have any better ideas.

    We need a term like "cuckservative"- the meaning may not immediately be obvious to everyone, but once you figure it out, you never forget it.

    Homophobia. A word that grates, for exactly the reason you describe. I thought I was the only one.

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  103. @NOTA
    That's the problem with the picture of the world you get from both old media and Youtubed cellphone videos. Nobody uploads the video that shows the cop calmly calming down the belligerent drunk/crazy person and resolving the situation peacefully.

    Nobody uploads the video that shows the cop calmly calming down the belligerent drunk/crazy person and resolving the situation peacefully.

    Sure they do. But nobody watches it.

    It’s kind of like track and field in the sports section. It’s there if you look for it.

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  104. @Steve Sailer
    http://www.twincities.com/2016/02/02/stpaul-police-department-diversity/

    Among St. Paul’s officers, the only racial or ethnic group with a larger share of officers than in 2007 are Asians; other groups have slightly lost ground.

    Four percent of the city’s officers were Asian in 2007 and, as of the beginning of January, they made up nearly 8 percent of the department; most are Hmong, according to the Minnesota Asian Peace Officers Association. Sixteen percent of St. Paul’s population is Asian.

    Seven of the 19 officers who graduated from the academy Tuesday are Asian, including the only woman in the class. Two officers are Hispanic men and the remaining 10 are white men.

    That “Mexican is the new Italian” has often been debunked, sometimes right here. But “Hmong us the new Irish” may have some truth to it. Second generation breaks the law, third generation enforces it.

    However, this cop is almost certainly Mexican in heritage. But his wife sounds Swedish. Their kid’ll be the next José Peterson!

    http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Peterson

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  105. @Lurker

    As one example: I don’t get why reddit-generally, a population of computer literates-is overwhelmingly progressive. Thirty years ago, those types would have been disdainful of progressivism. They would have been race realists, for instance, because race realism is simply more logical (not saying they would have expressed it publicly).
     
    Are we sure we're talking about an equivalent group of people? Lots of computer literate people are on Reddit sure, but are they actually the successors to those earlier conservative geek/nerd types. Or are they actually a lower tier of people who merely happen to use computers in their regular work?

    In a similar vein, there was something on the TV here recently about women in 'tech' as they kept calling it because these days women use computers as much as men! Turns out what they mean is spending hours a day faffing about on Facebook. They are not programing the guidance system on a lunar lander.

    These days anyone swiping away at their smartphone and downloading apps is flattered by the conceit that they are at the cutting edge of technology - rather than merely glorified consumers of it.

    …these days women use computers as much as men! Turns out what they mean is spending hours a day faffing about on Facebook. They are not programing the guidance system on a lunar lander.

    “Lunar landers” aren’t interested in women, either!

    They’d be the target of Venerean landers. The guidance systems if which/whom women are expert at programming.

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  106. avraham says:

    I do not think there is any such thing as a person being male becoming female or visa versa. The reason is that the sex is written in every DNA molecule in the body.

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  107. Acquaintance of mine at Harvard. Female, only child, heterosexual, briefly married, butchy, motorcyclist, gun owner, professional photographer with darkroom, serious beer drinker, upper-class background. Fast-forward 60 years. Transgendered herself to male, lives in Minneapolis, now homosexual, still serious beer drinker. Go figure!

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  108. @advancedatheist
    When technology can actually keep you from dying, we don't call it "idolatry." We call it "effective health care."

    True, but then the problem is: what to do with this life? At least till the next health emergency.

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  109. Ola says: • Website
    @wren
    What games and hardware did those guys produce?

    Dan Bunten: Star programmer/designer of early Electronic Arts. Most famous games were probably M.U.L.E and Seven Cities of Gold

    Steve Kitchen: Early Activision, games for the Atari VCS/2600 like Space Shuttle

    William Mataga: Still making games, but known mostly for Shamus for Atari 400/800 and many other 8-bit computers

    Jay Fenton: Mostly known for Bally Midway arcade games like Gorf. But he also did lots of conversion work for 8-bit computers like the C64 during the 80s

    Roger Wilson: Acorn Microcomputer (very big in the UK) and instruction set for the Acorn RISC Machine

    Bill Heineman: One of the founders of Interplay. Known for adventure games and RPGs like Tass Times in Tonetown and Bard’s Tale III

    These were all guys I was very familiar with as 10-year-old Swedish kid reading American and British gaming mags. They mostly “transitioned” during the 90s. I found it very odd (well… still do) but have since then been convinced that there is a link between extreme nerdiness and male to female trans people.

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    Holy cow, Ola. I had no idea about that, and I am very familiar with much of their work.

    Looking at Wikipedia entries and other info for some of those guys almost writes an iSteve post all by itself.

    Or maybe a documentary. Made me laugh, made me cry.

    The guy who really regretted chopping it off after three marriages. The guy who realized he was a lesbian his entire adult life. The guy who wanted to improve the male to female programmer ratio. Etc., etc.

    Steve, are you listening?

    I remember "programming" my Sinclair by copying the text out of those magazines and then saving the games to cassette tapes.
  110. First, not all of transgender are homossexuals even there is a great logic to see both as basically quasi-the same thing, just in the same variety-garden,

    Second, autism concept is one, transgenderism concep is other.
    So is semantically wrong to say ”transgenderism may a type of autism disorder”, even ”may”…

    autism spectrum have a universal ”symptoms’ (almost of the autistics have it): sensorial excesses, ”obsessive’ interests and deficits in neurotypical social skills… period.

    transgenderism is just like a anorexia, your self-perception is blurred, but without the direct impact in the health, generally indirect… even, might have the transgender people who are aware what they really are and their sexual change is aware and those who ”feel” that they are in the ”wrong” body (probably higher iq trans can be more aware, less fantasy-prone)

    look , a lot of transgender become prostitute and as we live in relatively free societies, many people who decide work (directly, ;) ) with sex simply ”choose’ this job because they have intense intrinsic motivation to do this.

    may ”obsessive’ interests can be understood as one of the responsible to the overlap between autism and transgenderism, the transgenderism itself can be understood as a ”obsessive’ interests as well anorexia.

    ”Obsessive’ interests are not always about science, anime, books, look to the patterns of ”things” but can be weird too.

    Interestingly a lot of autistic people report ”Body dysmorphic disorder”…

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  111. Psmith says:
    @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    Yep. A fair number of actual Aspie tech nerds are big-time gun guys. And I always get the impression when I talk to the older non-tech guys at my range (mostly farmers and tradesmen) that they would have been on the high school robotics team if it had been a thing when they were growing up.

    Anyway, on the main point, I know a fair number of actual trans or otherwise genderweird types who have made this exact observation.

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  112. Psmith says:
    @Ray P
    The NRA could have a trans-sexual branch (lopped off)? "This is/isn't the only pistol I'm packing."

    You’ve heard of the Pink Pistols, yes? “Armed gays don’t get bashed”? The #shootback hashtag?

    (I suppose this is more general than transgenderism alone, but they’re certainly under the umbrella, and best of luck to ‘em.).

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  113. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @slumber_j
    That dovetails completely with the news friends dropped on me last October when I visited Spain: that my ex-brother-in-law (brother of my ex-wife, that is) had changed his name from Marc (or Marco, as they'd always known him) to "Mar," and was now living in Madrid and getting hormone treatments etc. in order to "become a woman."

    A nerdier guy is hard to imagine, and he's in his forties and a big sci-fi fan, with a longstanding slew of emotional and personality disorders.

    Fortunately or unfortunately for him, he's rich, so he can totally live the dream. On the other hand he's also traditionally really hairy, which must complicate matters.

    body hair is probably the easiest secondary sexual characteristic to fix.

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  114. Marcus says:

    It’s telling that many autogynephiles (the Wachowskis being an obvious example) fantasize about “butt-kicking babes”

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/04/filling-in-profile-of-guys-who.html

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  115. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    You are right Steve,
    most of mtf males you can find of the internet are of the nerdy sci-fi type. They have NOTHING in common with your stereotypical woman and not much in common with your average “jock” man, but 100% in common with male nerds. Ftm women can be nerdy but in a womanly way, that is, more people-oriented than system-oriented (think Poppy Z. Brite, fanfiction, slash) but they are as big on the “I’m a gay man!!!” part as mtf men are on the “I’m a lesbiannnnnz!!!”. The difference is that most ftm females are really cowardly pussies (pardon) who will cry at the slightest provocation while mtf males will kill you and smear your reputation forever if you cross them with the insinuation that they might not really be lesbians/pansexual furries/whatever (also nicely proving that generally gender stereotypes hold true…). The nerdy mtf group is also absolutely the one pushing things forward for the trans movement, using early transitioners/CHILDREN as a smokescreen for their out-of-control fetish fantasy .
    You ask, how do I know this? I was once a regular commenter at gendertrender but the stress I received while dealing with the mtf types on one side and radical feminsts on the other, while seeing all the madness and young lives ruined made me go temporarily crazy. Now I must take meds for life and monitor myself closely when I get too angry in fear of another mental meltdown, the joy, so I don’t intervene in these topics anymore. But one thing I WANT for sure though is for them mtf “lesbians” to be revealed for who they really are. I know it will happen because the emperor cannot stay naked for too long, someone will NOTICE. Life tends to prefer the path with less (mental) resistence in the end. Thank you for noticing.

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    Then explain to us what's really going on. Why would this mental illness be so political? Why would someone want to destroy his body with surgery and chemicals?
  116. Brutusale says:
    @Anonymous
    Who's the baseball stats person that's trans? Bill James?

    Chris(tina) Kahrl, one of the co-founders of Baseball Prospectus.

    Why so coy, Steve? (S)he’s been out and an activist since the early Aughts.

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  117. Rob McX says:
    @Anon
    I know a whole bunch of scientists, and that's a spot on description of them. They've become progressive loons who refuse to subject progressive politics to rational analysis, and they won't even give the briefest look at race theory, IQ testing, genetic inheritance of personality traits, etc.

    My theory is that when scientists gave up traditional Christian religions, they substituted progressive politics for their religion because the religious urge doesn't go away so easily. This might also explain why they're so wildly defensive about Islam. The less scientists know about Islam, the more they defend it and make excuses for it. It occupies a mystical, unexamined, protected spot in their brain the way a religion does, and they don't even seem to be aware of this phenomenon, even though they don't believe in Islam.

    Liberals have a whole basketful of psychological defense mechanisms that set to work inside their brains at the first sign of discomfort to both their egos and world view.

    This might also explain why they’re so wildly defensive about Islam.

    Not all of them. Take Richard Dawkins for instance, constantly criticising Islam as a religion, which is consistent with his general atheistic worldview. But if religions are merely human creations, then they reflect the biological traits of the people who created and practice them – they’re part of their extended phenotype, to use the title of one of his books. That would mean that religion per se is not the problem. But that’s a line of reasoning that Dawkins and his kind prefer not to pursue to its logical conclusion.

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  118. JEGG says:
    @whorefinder
    They may be both related to the over-surplus of males today. I've written about how it seems that female power grows when they are more males, and vice versa, due to the laws of supply and demand: the more the surplus of one sex, the more that sex caters to the whims of the minority sex due to mating needs.

    So men at the bottom of the sexual marketplace "transition to female," and thus :(1) avoid being the bottom of the male social order; (2) get to be "special" and noticeable; and (3) become part of the sex in more demand, immediately becoming more powerful. And there are so many "hungry" men that they might take a chance on a tranny in a moment of weakness (of course most tranny men just want lesbians, but that's another topic, although probably related).

    This is also why "gay men" become more prominent when societies are in soft times: soft times=fewer men dying in wars/hardships=surplus of men. Men who are naturally more submissive/don't want to fight go gay to avoid dying over female mates.

    At present statistics show that only a small percentage (certainly no more than a fifth) of trans women are interested in getting sexually involved exclusively with lesbians. A much larger percentage want just men or see themselves as bisexual.

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    Interesting, because I heard the opposite from the famous psychiatrist Dr. Drew Pinsky while he hosted LoveLine; he told the audience that the majority of trannies (male to female ones) did so to have lesbian relationships. This was more than a decade ago, so the stats might have changed. Do you have a link?
  119. Brutusale says:
    @Svigor
    NOT from The Hunger Games:

    http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M5d264568543097d1e8e0447f15dc37aao0&w=300&h=200&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0
    Rise Christiana

    Agreed. When I originally saw that photo I thought it had to be the Global President from new SF dystopia movie. Let’s face it, it’s going to look like Hillary, Christine Lagarde or this woman, not Jodi Foster in Elysium.

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  120. whorefinder says: • Website
    @JEGG
    At present statistics show that only a small percentage (certainly no more than a fifth) of trans women are interested in getting sexually involved exclusively with lesbians. A much larger percentage want just men or see themselves as bisexual.

    Interesting, because I heard the opposite from the famous psychiatrist Dr. Drew Pinsky while he hosted LoveLine; he told the audience that the majority of trannies (male to female ones) did so to have lesbian relationships. This was more than a decade ago, so the stats might have changed. Do you have a link?

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  121. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Warner
    I guess" effective health care" is pretty ineffective since everybody dies. Is this normal for an atheist to not understand what death is?

    Evidence that other humans have died is not indicitave that I will follow suit.

    In fact, the current trend suggests that I will continue to not die indefinitely, as has been the case for the last 14.8bn years.

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  122. Pericles says:
    @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    I’d put you under the general heading of “hobbyist”. No matter how insignificant the field, and guns are more significant than many, you will have to struggle to be the best. There’s a quote about that which I can’t find.

    Hobbies are good for society, by the way. That’s how technology advances without the government bureaucracy.

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  123. Pericles says:
    @Simonini
    I haven't read All You Zombies, but Heinlein did not have nice things to say about transsexuals in Time Enough For Love, referring to them as monsters.

    Fortunately, the main character finds a way to satisfy his curiosity about his potential female self by creating two clones with 2 copies of his X chromosome and no Y. When they are teenagers, he engages them in a threesome.

    Then there was I Will Fear No Evil, where an old geezer gets transplanted into the body of a hot young woman.

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  124. Pericles says:

    Heinlein seldom failed to insert outrageous acts and thoughts in his works (“sacred cows make the best burger”), either in the background or foreground, then asking the reader “but is there a rational reason for your emotional reaction?” He was something of a rationalist zealot, if you will.

    A certain class of people loved that sort of thing (youthful me among them).

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  125. @Whiskey
    Not really. If you look at say, "NutNFancy" and other gun enthusiasts on Youtube (Hickock45, the Yankee Marshall, etc.) they fit a pattern. Almost all ex-military. Many ex law enforcement. They have a fascination with WEAPONS, which is what a gun is when you get down to it, that say Spartan hoplites and Roman Centurions would have appreciated. Ditto say, notorious Old West bad man John Wesley Hardin and Hickock himself. Looking at the men in the Youtube videos, and their hobbies (hunting, backpacking, hiking, fishing) ... nerdy is not what comes to mind.

    You don't have to take my word for it, see for yourself. NutNFancy for example has a video just about survival firestarters that he tests out in the Utah mountain snow.

    As for science fiction, it is no longer a male nerd's paradise or even very male. Its mostly now ... women. Go look at the Science Fiction book section at your local Barnes and Noble. Besides "Teen Paranormal Romance" there is just row after row after row of books oriented towards women: Lesbian wereseal sex in space, Dinosaur pr0n (no I'm NOT kidding either), along with the fantasy stuff like Mermaids and werewolf fashionistas. No I'm NOT kidding on that area either.

    Sci-fi is in a crisis just like Comic Books, because both cater to an aging, over-forty fanbase that is "very selective" (i.e. weird, hard-left, mostly female) and has the appeal to a 13 year old boy that would equal say, any of the Wachowski's later flops.

    This is why ebook stuff like Larry Correia's Monster Hunter series and various Harry Turtledove style alternative military histories are not published anymore, but go direct to ebook. [As has the Gor series by John Norman who was canned by his publisher for being un-PC]. Heck Mike Resnick was tossed out of the SFWA leadership because he was old, White, male, and appealed to White male fans. Sci-Fi publishing and fandom has become a toxic stew of PC and Diversity witch-hunting, with garbage published by Black/Female writers because they are not White men.

    Larry Correia did the Lord’s work when he created Sad Puppies.

    Your comment gave me a chuckle because I know the dinosaur pr0n you’re referring to. I came across The Furred Reich the other day on amazon, which presumably involves Nazis having sex with anthropomorphic animals.

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  126. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Steve, I think you will have some overlap in that social fluency as a man is going to be pretty challenging if on a gut and intuitive level, you don’t *get* being a man. Or you get it but don’t want to do those things.

    You might be more inclined to ignore a lot of social cues – like the one orienting you away from obsessing with geeky stuff and towards macho stuff – if you’re already sort of on the outside of male socialising in some ways.

    Young men these days tend to go the geek route or the bro route. I think that I could see trannies who are not down with being masculine and have some social confidence problems tending to choose the former.

    But I don’t think it’s really got much to do with Asperger’s or autism, as an etiology.

    If you look at the wider characteristics of autism, like ticing, or compulsive behaviour, or stereotypy, beyond some degree of social awkwardness, you probably wouldn’t find very much there.

    Though saying that, Asperger’s and autism is not, like, necessarily even a coherent single phenom.

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    I don't know--is transgenderism just an extreme point on the distribution of how masculine men are (ranging from guys who spend their time thinking about interior design and ballet on one side, to guys who spend their time thinking about football and motorcycles on the other)? Or is is a separate thing? I'm inclined to think it's a separate thing, but I don't really know.

    Maybe non-neurotypical people tend to be non-neutotypical on multiple axes?
  127. ‘Sci-fi’ is very often a coded dogwhistle for gnostic religious cults, and gnostics have always had a special place in their heart for transsexualism and castration.

    E.g., one of a myriad of examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsy

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  128. @Anonymous
    You are right Steve,
    most of mtf males you can find of the internet are of the nerdy sci-fi type. They have NOTHING in common with your stereotypical woman and not much in common with your average "jock" man, but 100% in common with male nerds. Ftm women can be nerdy but in a womanly way, that is, more people-oriented than system-oriented (think Poppy Z. Brite, fanfiction, slash) but they are as big on the "I'm a gay man!!!" part as mtf men are on the "I'm a lesbiannnnnz!!!". The difference is that most ftm females are really cowardly pussies (pardon) who will cry at the slightest provocation while mtf males will kill you and smear your reputation forever if you cross them with the insinuation that they might not really be lesbians/pansexual furries/whatever (also nicely proving that generally gender stereotypes hold true...). The nerdy mtf group is also absolutely the one pushing things forward for the trans movement, using early transitioners/CHILDREN as a smokescreen for their out-of-control fetish fantasy .
    You ask, how do I know this? I was once a regular commenter at gendertrender but the stress I received while dealing with the mtf types on one side and radical feminsts on the other, while seeing all the madness and young lives ruined made me go temporarily crazy. Now I must take meds for life and monitor myself closely when I get too angry in fear of another mental meltdown, the joy, so I don't intervene in these topics anymore. But one thing I WANT for sure though is for them mtf "lesbians" to be revealed for who they really are. I know it will happen because the emperor cannot stay naked for too long, someone will NOTICE. Life tends to prefer the path with less (mental) resistence in the end. Thank you for noticing.

    Then explain to us what’s really going on. Why would this mental illness be so political? Why would someone want to destroy his body with surgery and chemicals?

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  129. melendwyr says: • Website
    @Trelane
    Lt. Hikaru Sulu, in the soon-to-be released film Star Trek Beyond, will be a gay man portrayed as "normal" and otherwise unremarkable. Simply a gay man with his "husband" and adopted daughter.

    Nevermind the Cochran hypothesis it would seem. In the future, as portrayed here in the (Hollywood) present, homosexuality is not a disorder, nor a pathology or a maladaptative trait, but merely a variation of the sort that forms snowflakes! How wonderful! And unicorns too!

    Trelane is very, very angry.

    “Lt. Hikaru Sulu, in the soon-to-be released film Star Trek Beyond, will be a gay man portrayed as “normal” and otherwise unremarkable.”

    Curious. George Takei was always very clear that he was homosexual, but the character he portrayed was not.

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  130. @AndrewR
    Lighten tf up. My nephew has aspergers and I know what a sad thing it can be. But the dude wrote Assbergers. So chill.

    Andrew R – good response to my comment. For the record, I read your comment quickly, typed my comment, then reread your comment, realized my reply was incommensurately harsh, and tried to edit my comment. Due to the fact that I had been promised several minutes to edit my comment, I thought this would be no problem, but when I clicked on the edit rectangle, I was told I could no longer edit the comment, and the original comment reverted to its original state. So I tried to delete, which also did not work. I am not complaining, as I pay nothing for this website, I am just explaining. By the way, I have a relative with Asperger syndrome too. He was much older than me, succeeded in having children, and, unfortunately, nobody stepped in to prevent the Asperger victim from treating his children coldly and badly, although I like to think that he knew no better, and I like to think that the moral fault is not with him but with those who did not intervene. Out of deep compassion for his badly raised children, who suffered tremendously, and whom I number among my best friends on this earth, and out of deep compassion for him who would have been devastated if he ever fully realized what he had done and what he had failed to do because of a genetic problem that was not his fault, I am very sensitive about people taking the negative sides of Asperger syndrome lightly. So I will “chill”, as you recommend, with respect to your laughter, and apologize for the word “unempathetic”, but it would be wrong for me to “chill” with respect to the reason why I was motivated to reply to your comment.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    It can be a serious condition but its typical pronunciation in English is endlessly amusing, especially when spelled incorrectly. I doubt any folks with Aspergers would have been offended by my comment which obviously was not intended to be offensive. It's good you're passionate about this condition but our passions can get the best of us, as you know.

    People who have great difficulty or aversion to showing love and affection to children should not have children, Aspergers or not.
  131. wren says:
    @Ola
    Dan Bunten: Star programmer/designer of early Electronic Arts. Most famous games were probably M.U.L.E and Seven Cities of Gold

    Steve Kitchen: Early Activision, games for the Atari VCS/2600 like Space Shuttle

    William Mataga: Still making games, but known mostly for Shamus for Atari 400/800 and many other 8-bit computers

    Jay Fenton: Mostly known for Bally Midway arcade games like Gorf. But he also did lots of conversion work for 8-bit computers like the C64 during the 80s

    Roger Wilson: Acorn Microcomputer (very big in the UK) and instruction set for the Acorn RISC Machine

    Bill Heineman: One of the founders of Interplay. Known for adventure games and RPGs like Tass Times in Tonetown and Bard's Tale III

    These were all guys I was very familiar with as 10-year-old Swedish kid reading American and British gaming mags. They mostly "transitioned" during the 90s. I found it very odd (well... still do) but have since then been convinced that there is a link between extreme nerdiness and male to female trans people.

    Holy cow, Ola. I had no idea about that, and I am very familiar with much of their work.

    Looking at Wikipedia entries and other info for some of those guys almost writes an iSteve post all by itself.

    Or maybe a documentary. Made me laugh, made me cry.

    The guy who really regretted chopping it off after three marriages. The guy who realized he was a lesbian his entire adult life. The guy who wanted to improve the male to female programmer ratio. Etc., etc.

    Steve, are you listening?

    I remember “programming” my Sinclair by copying the text out of those magazines and then saving the games to cassette tapes.

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    http://www.jamiefaye.com/newsjamiegamer.html

    Game Designers Just Wanna Be Girls:
    Interview with Jamie Faye Fenton

    From 1999.
    , @wren
    Haha.

    After three titles for SSI, Bunten, who by then had founded a software company called Ozark Softscape, caught the attention of Electronic Arts founder Trip Hawkins. M.U.L.E. was Bunten's first game for EA, originally published for the Atari 8-bit family because the Atari 800 had four controller ports. Bunten later ported it to the Commodore 64. While its sales — 30,000 units — were not high, the game developed a cult following and was widely pirated. The game setting was inspired by the novel Time Enough for Love by Robert A. Heinlein.[citation needed]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Bunten_Berry
  132. wren says:
    @wren
    Holy cow, Ola. I had no idea about that, and I am very familiar with much of their work.

    Looking at Wikipedia entries and other info for some of those guys almost writes an iSteve post all by itself.

    Or maybe a documentary. Made me laugh, made me cry.

    The guy who really regretted chopping it off after three marriages. The guy who realized he was a lesbian his entire adult life. The guy who wanted to improve the male to female programmer ratio. Etc., etc.

    Steve, are you listening?

    I remember "programming" my Sinclair by copying the text out of those magazines and then saving the games to cassette tapes.

    http://www.jamiefaye.com/newsjamiegamer.html

    Game Designers Just Wanna Be Girls:
    Interview with Jamie Faye Fenton

    From 1999.

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  133. wren says:
    @wren
    Holy cow, Ola. I had no idea about that, and I am very familiar with much of their work.

    Looking at Wikipedia entries and other info for some of those guys almost writes an iSteve post all by itself.

    Or maybe a documentary. Made me laugh, made me cry.

    The guy who really regretted chopping it off after three marriages. The guy who realized he was a lesbian his entire adult life. The guy who wanted to improve the male to female programmer ratio. Etc., etc.

    Steve, are you listening?

    I remember "programming" my Sinclair by copying the text out of those magazines and then saving the games to cassette tapes.

    Haha.

    After three titles for SSI, Bunten, who by then had founded a software company called Ozark Softscape, caught the attention of Electronic Arts founder Trip Hawkins. M.U.L.E. was Bunten’s first game for EA, originally published for the Atari 8-bit family because the Atari 800 had four controller ports. Bunten later ported it to the Commodore 64. While its sales — 30,000 units — were not high, the game developed a cult following and was widely pirated. The game setting was inspired by the novel Time Enough for Love by Robert A. Heinlein.[citation needed]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Bunten_Berry

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    • Replies: @wren
    I don't know what proportion of autogynephile transgenders are aspies, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a majority of iSteve commenters could be diagnosed ASD.

    I remember about 15 years ago some of Steve's biggest trolls were transgender. That was before there were comments.
  134. wren says:
    @wren
    Haha.

    After three titles for SSI, Bunten, who by then had founded a software company called Ozark Softscape, caught the attention of Electronic Arts founder Trip Hawkins. M.U.L.E. was Bunten's first game for EA, originally published for the Atari 8-bit family because the Atari 800 had four controller ports. Bunten later ported it to the Commodore 64. While its sales — 30,000 units — were not high, the game developed a cult following and was widely pirated. The game setting was inspired by the novel Time Enough for Love by Robert A. Heinlein.[citation needed]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Bunten_Berry

    I don’t know what proportion of autogynephile transgenders are aspies, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that a majority of iSteve commenters could be diagnosed ASD.

    I remember about 15 years ago some of Steve’s biggest trolls were transgender. That was before there were comments.

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    McCloskey and Conway were out to get me, Pinker, etc. as part of their jihad against J. Michael Bailey of Northwestern. Conway's IQ must be 160+. They teamed up with the SPLC, who foresaw that Trans-ism was going to be a lucrative moneymaker, although they were about a decade too early to really cash in big time.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/health/psychology/21gender.html

  135. @wren
    I don't know what proportion of autogynephile transgenders are aspies, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a majority of iSteve commenters could be diagnosed ASD.

    I remember about 15 years ago some of Steve's biggest trolls were transgender. That was before there were comments.

    McCloskey and Conway were out to get me, Pinker, etc. as part of their jihad against J. Michael Bailey of Northwestern. Conway’s IQ must be 160+. They teamed up with the SPLC, who foresaw that Trans-ism was going to be a lucrative moneymaker, although they were about a decade too early to really cash in big time.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/health/psychology/21gender.html

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    • Replies: @wren
    Yes, I remember seeing some of their stuff targeting you. Perhaps because they may be autistic, they can say and do pretty chilling stuff.

    It is always interesting to read articles like that one in the NYT, because they don't always make it clear that the experts they quote may be biased. Like Ben Barres. No mention of anything other than he is a Stanford guy.

    Nowadays my aspiedar goes off every time there is a mass shooting or something. That was not the case this time, for better or for worse.

    I recently read that Ron's IQ is 214.

    That was a bit surprising, but not extremely so.

  136. wren says:
    @Steve Sailer
    McCloskey and Conway were out to get me, Pinker, etc. as part of their jihad against J. Michael Bailey of Northwestern. Conway's IQ must be 160+. They teamed up with the SPLC, who foresaw that Trans-ism was going to be a lucrative moneymaker, although they were about a decade too early to really cash in big time.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/health/psychology/21gender.html

    Yes, I remember seeing some of their stuff targeting you. Perhaps because they may be autistic, they can say and do pretty chilling stuff.

    It is always interesting to read articles like that one in the NYT, because they don’t always make it clear that the experts they quote may be biased. Like Ben Barres. No mention of anything other than he is a Stanford guy.

    Nowadays my aspiedar goes off every time there is a mass shooting or something. That was not the case this time, for better or for worse.

    I recently read that Ron’s IQ is 214.

    That was a bit surprising, but not extremely so.

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  137. AndrewR says:
    @middle aged vet
    Andrew R - good response to my comment. For the record, I read your comment quickly, typed my comment, then reread your comment, realized my reply was incommensurately harsh, and tried to edit my comment. Due to the fact that I had been promised several minutes to edit my comment, I thought this would be no problem, but when I clicked on the edit rectangle, I was told I could no longer edit the comment, and the original comment reverted to its original state. So I tried to delete, which also did not work. I am not complaining, as I pay nothing for this website, I am just explaining. By the way, I have a relative with Asperger syndrome too. He was much older than me, succeeded in having children, and, unfortunately, nobody stepped in to prevent the Asperger victim from treating his children coldly and badly, although I like to think that he knew no better, and I like to think that the moral fault is not with him but with those who did not intervene. Out of deep compassion for his badly raised children, who suffered tremendously, and whom I number among my best friends on this earth, and out of deep compassion for him who would have been devastated if he ever fully realized what he had done and what he had failed to do because of a genetic problem that was not his fault, I am very sensitive about people taking the negative sides of Asperger syndrome lightly. So I will "chill", as you recommend, with respect to your laughter, and apologize for the word "unempathetic", but it would be wrong for me to "chill" with respect to the reason why I was motivated to reply to your comment.

    It can be a serious condition but its typical pronunciation in English is endlessly amusing, especially when spelled incorrectly. I doubt any folks with Aspergers would have been offended by my comment which obviously was not intended to be offensive. It’s good you’re passionate about this condition but our passions can get the best of us, as you know.

    People who have great difficulty or aversion to showing love and affection to children should not have children, Aspergers or not.

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  138. Maxime Chevalier-Boisvert, MTF, comp sci, interesting research on JITs, youtube channel on various things, including honest videos on being transgender, on the operations, etc.

    https://pointersgonewild.com/about/

    Before:

    After:

    Henry/Alexia Massalin
    MTF, comp sci, *really* interesting phd thesis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexia_Massalin

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  139. Most trans people I know are aspie, but most aspies I know are not trans. And most people I know well are aspie, so that’s definitely not a random sample, but still potentially something there.
    By contrast, none of the people I know are prostitutes.

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  140. @Otto the P
    Taking this in a different direction: Talk of nerds and autism spectrum disorder just gives a chance to intro a wrinkle I believe in but haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I believe most serious gun people (I am one) are high-fuctioning autistic or at least on the spectrum. If you look up high-function autism, it contains things like fascination with particular mechanical systems (guilty), attraction to particular patterns (guns have lots of checkering, etching, grooves); inability to respond to social clues (i.e. not noticing or caring that guns are officially declasse in polite society); obsessive chatter on the subject and nothing else; and several more that I can't remember. A lot of gun behavior is clearly nerdish, such as naming parts, collecting the same fricking thing over and over, a possessive pride in having small increments of knowledge over your "friends" (whom you really want to diminish). Any comments , insights or agrees/disagrees?

    100% of gun enthusiasts I know are aspie, though I wouldn’t necessarily say it to their faces. One of them is also trans, (mtf) which is absurd. I don’t know that many people who are really into guns, though.

    Let’s take this and run a bit further, though. Maybe anyone who is obsessively into a subject they aren’t paid to study (sports, motorcycles, makeup, etc.) to the point where they spend a great deal of time and money on it and talk about it even with people who aren’t interested in the subject, could be considered “aspie” in this way. But most people don’t use such an expansive definition.

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  141. @joeyjoejoe
    I think there is something else going on.

    I am an engineer around 50. So I grew up with engineers, D&D nerds, computer nerds, chess nerds, and so on.

    And while there is the element of dysfunction in those groups, my overall impression of my peers in high school/college was that they were essentially conservative. Not religious conservative, but more like libertarian conservative. They were more rational than the population at large, tended to be cynical of trends (being generally outsiders) , more logical, and would simply see mass movement/trendy progressivism as faddish nonsense. Essentially, the way you imagine NASA engineers in the 1960's: old fashioned conservative due to their hyperrationalism.

    This has changed. As one example: I don't get why reddit-generally, a population of computer literates-is overwhelmingly progressive. Thirty years ago, those types would have been disdainful of progressivism. They would have been race realists, for instance, because race realism is simply more logical (not saying they would have expressed it publicly).

    And this observation holds in many engineering/scientific subcultures.

    So in my experience, something fundamental has changed in the attitudes of scientific/mathematical people. They are no longer cynics, but fully embrace the wider (progressive, or liberal) culture.

    So I'm not convinced that 'autism spectrum' somehow correlates to transvestitism. Rather, it seems that autism spectrum may correlate to transvestitism today. Why today and not one, or two, generations ago? I don't know.

    joeyjoejoe

    Mainstream Republicans–especially the”Religious Right”–have been very vocally anti-science, (especially evolution, but also global warming, stem cell research, etc.) for decades. They’re also often vocally anti-universities, where a lot of STEM folks are employed. None of this attracts scientists to identify as “conservative.”

    Back in my day (about a decade ago,) the “nerds” were still noticeably more “libertarian” than the humanities majors, but did not under any circumstances identify as “conservative.” Conservatives were practically a different species than ourselves, the rural denizens of far-off red states. Toward the end of my days, SJW-ianism was really getting going, and most of the nerds converted to it, some because they really believed in it from a theoretical perspective–that is, they decided that “privilege” and other such concepts were real and explained differences in group outcomes, and therefore we couldn’t have a libertarian paradise until we first eliminated structural racism–and some because it was just the general cultural broth in which they were stewing. Today, I suspect all respectable people at any kind of university and probably most jobs that employ university-trained people at least parrot some version of SJW thought in order to avoid looking like one of those “conservatives.”

    Some STEM folks, though, went the opposite direction, into various strains of alt-right/NRx thought.

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    I suspect a lot of the expressed ideas of men in college are strongly related to what seems likely to get them female approval. The rational brain is willing, but the flesh is weak (or at least, more interested in evolutionary success than rationality).
  142. NOTA says:
    @Anon
    Steve, I think you will have some overlap in that social fluency as a man is going to be pretty challenging if on a gut and intuitive level, you don't *get* being a man. Or you get it but don't want to do those things.

    You might be more inclined to ignore a lot of social cues - like the one orienting you away from obsessing with geeky stuff and towards macho stuff - if you're already sort of on the outside of male socialising in some ways.

    Young men these days tend to go the geek route or the bro route. I think that I could see trannies who are not down with being masculine and have some social confidence problems tending to choose the former.

    But I don't think it's really got much to do with Asperger's or autism, as an etiology.

    If you look at the wider characteristics of autism, like ticing, or compulsive behaviour, or stereotypy, beyond some degree of social awkwardness, you probably wouldn't find very much there.

    Though saying that, Asperger's and autism is not, like, necessarily even a coherent single phenom.

    I don’t know–is transgenderism just an extreme point on the distribution of how masculine men are (ranging from guys who spend their time thinking about interior design and ballet on one side, to guys who spend their time thinking about football and motorcycles on the other)? Or is is a separate thing? I’m inclined to think it’s a separate thing, but I don’t really know.

    Maybe non-neurotypical people tend to be non-neutotypical on multiple axes?

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  143. NOTA says:
    @EvolutionistX
    Mainstream Republicans--especially the"Religious Right"--have been very vocally anti-science, (especially evolution, but also global warming, stem cell research, etc.) for decades. They're also often vocally anti-universities, where a lot of STEM folks are employed. None of this attracts scientists to identify as "conservative."

    Back in my day (about a decade ago,) the "nerds" were still noticeably more "libertarian" than the humanities majors, but did not under any circumstances identify as "conservative." Conservatives were practically a different species than ourselves, the rural denizens of far-off red states. Toward the end of my days, SJW-ianism was really getting going, and most of the nerds converted to it, some because they really believed in it from a theoretical perspective--that is, they decided that "privilege" and other such concepts were real and explained differences in group outcomes, and therefore we couldn't have a libertarian paradise until we first eliminated structural racism--and some because it was just the general cultural broth in which they were stewing. Today, I suspect all respectable people at any kind of university and probably most jobs that employ university-trained people at least parrot some version of SJW thought in order to avoid looking like one of those "conservatives."

    Some STEM folks, though, went the opposite direction, into various strains of alt-right/NRx thought.

    I suspect a lot of the expressed ideas of men in college are strongly related to what seems likely to get them female approval. The rational brain is willing, but the flesh is weak (or at least, more interested in evolutionary success than rationality).

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  144. The more I read these comments, the more I have the feeling that Cochran’s theory (virus/parasite, probably originating in sheep) will prove to be correct.

    Autism probably has an infectious origin, too.

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