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The Ghost Writer is a pretty decent political thriller novel by Englishman Robert Harris, and then a movie directed by good old Roman Polanski. It’s about a former Tony Blair-style British prime minister played by Pierce Brosnan who is holed up on an estate owned by a Rupert Murdoch-like neocon billionaire, under contract to an American publishing firm to write his memoirs for ten million dollars. The ex-PM hires Ewan McGregor to be his second ghostwriter after his first ghostwriter happens to fall off a ferryboat. (I reviewed the movie in Taki’s in 2010.)

Harris had been a big supporter of Blair until Blair threw in with the Americans over the Iraq Attaq. Harris is a left of center anti-American English nationalist in the Orwell mode, and London being Washington’s poodle is anathema to him.

In the movie, ghostwriter McGregor becomes suspicious that Brosnan’s Blairish ex-PM Adam Lang, his new client, is really a deep cover CIA stooge after he finds a photo of his boss at Oxbridge in the 1970s with an American national security academic now known for his Company connections, played by Tom Wilkinson.

In the scene above, the ghost writer shows Wilkinson’s Harvard professor the 1970s photo of the future prime minister smoking a joint while the young Wilkinson flashes a peace sign. But McGregor fails to extract any usable information from from the barely flappable Wilkinson, while Wilkinson maintains plausible deniability as he perhaps threatens McGregor with murder.

Various plot twists unfold afterwards. I, for one, never saw the final twist coming.

I’m now wondering if Wilkinson’s character is based on American Cambridge prof Stefan Halper, currently in the news?

Not much evidence one way or the other …

 
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  1. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    I read the book didn’t see the movie. Kind of lame checklist template political sort of thriller. Don’t remember much about it.

    • Replies: @Polynikes
  2. … London being Washington’s poodle is anathema to him.

    I always found it interesting that Tony Blair played lapdog to George W. Bush, while Bush played lapdog to Vicente Fox.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  3. wren says:

    Halper was at Oxford at the same time Clinton was.

    It is sure hard to keep up with all of this stuff…

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/stefan-halper/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  4. Jake says:

    “Harris is a left of center anti-American English nationalist in the Orwell mode, and London being Washington’s poodle is anathema to him.”

    Funny bunch, that. They tend to live in a fantasy world in which dear old England and its global empire were the pinnacle of righteousness and fair play, no brutality or theft, much less wholesale slaughter. English honor was ruined by grubby Americans.

    The CIA is still playing catch up to the laundry list of dirty deeds of British secret service, which is responsible for the CIA.

  5. Polynikes says:
    @Anon

    Saw the movie and thought the same, so much so that I forget the twist!

    • Replies: @Anon
  6. @wren

    The book is ostensibly a roman a clef about Tony and Cherie, but it could also be about Bill and Hill.

  7. wren says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The book may be titled “The Ghost.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_(Harris_novel)

    There seem to be a lot of bodies surrounding the presidencies of Clinton and Obama, and in the past they always felt more like unfortunate coincidences.

    Recently things are looking a little different.

    I remember back in the day when you were a voice in the wilderness bringing the foreign, byzantine concept of the “Deep State” to American audiences.

    I wonder what tomorrow will bring?

    • Replies: @wren
  8. wren says:
    @wren

    I vaguely remember events in the summer of 2016.

    Wasn’t that when Hillary was resting on Martha’s Vineyard, and taking her private jet just 20 miles to fundraise with the Rothschilds?

    Wasn’t that when Seth Rich was murdered?

    It is a shame that those 33,000 yoga emails were disposed of.

    I could have learned a lot about yoga.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @Anon
  9. Mr. Anon says:

    Tom Wilkinson is one of those actors who significantly improves any movie he’s in.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @dearieme
  10. @Mr. Anon

    I’d like to see a Tom Wilkinson vs. Jim Broadbent vs. Timothy Spall act-off.

  11. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder if Christopher Andrew’s name is going to get dragged into this? He is (was?) the man to go to in Cambridge on the subject of Intelligence (in the espionage sense). His Mitrokhin Archive books of smuggled NKVD/KGB files edited into history/narrative for the English speaking historian & layman are some of the most entertaining nonfiction I’ve ever enjoyed. 20th century espionage sounded much more fun than John le Carre’s version and drastically less competent than Ian Fleming’s version (which was still more realistic).

    Here’s one of the recent articles that concerns a seminar Andrew started that Halper quit because possible Russian Subversion https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/16/intelligence-experts-cut-ties-cambridge-spy-seminars-amid-claims/

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @dearieme
  12. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Harris and Polanski originally teamed up to do Harris’s Pompeii, but the writers strike or production costs or something intervened. I would really have liked to see that one on the big screen. As it was, the third volume of Harris’s Cicero trilogy was substantially delayed by the whole mess. Movies tend to suck the soul out of writers, ever since Chandler, although I guess they need the money.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Thirdtwin
    , @Anon
  13. @Anon

    Harris’s “Pompei” book is about an honest Roman water engineer trying to figure out why Pompei’s water supply is suddenly full of sulfur. Polanski wanted to film it as a big budget follow-up to the similarly water-centric “Chinatown,” which doesn’t sound like a good idea.

    I don’t think “Pompei” is that good. The civil engineer main character is a little dull.

    I did really like, however, the first volume of Harris’s Cicero trilogy “Imperium.” The first volume is an ascending arc as Cicero fights (nonviolently) his way to the top of the Roman Republic political heap. The second volume was kind of a downer as Cicero gets repeatedly outmaneuvered by Julius Caesar, who is just a little more all-around talented than Cicero is. I haven’t read the the third volume.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @wren
  14. Where exactly is Oxbridge in England?

  15. @Ali Choudhury

    Halfway between Oxford and Cambridge? Which would be Bletchley Park, I guess?

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
  16. @Jake

    The left in the UK despise the fact that they once had an empire, its one of their defining characteristics

    • Replies: @Gordo
    , @Joe Walker
    , @Anon
  17. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin

    Maybe it’s more useful to think of them as nominal equals with different bailiwicks in the nevertheless consistent conspiracy; cf Rumsfeld and Cheney trading levels.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
  18. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Ali Choudhury

    Truly a representative question of Mr Choudury. Let the other try to answer, Ali’s already checked eight maps!

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
  19. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    There was a Russian spook who defected and published a lecture through U of M (among less famous American locations, Russians generally knew Ann Arbor, and maybe Bloomingdale, Illinois, because so many had defected there). He describes a lot of chasing down some competant businessman who fled the revolution or defected later and set up a prosperous factory in the West, and using bribery or family connections to cajole the guy into secretly economically helping the Soviets. People were scared to come back and reproduce their German or American factory insuide the Soyuz because of the likelihood that they would not get back out.

  20. @Steve Sailer

    It is a portmanteau of Oxford and Cambridge universities used to refer to both of them. Physically does not exist.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  21. @Ali Choudhury

    So I didn’t want to bother looking up whether the fictional 1970s incident in the novel happened at Oxford or at Cambridge, so I called it Oxbridge, as one does.

  22. a reader says:

    Law of Unintended Consequences, case # 62827

    Roman Abramovich is told to prove his wealth is legitimate if he wants to return to the UK as Britain begins war on oligarchs.

    It follows months of tensions over the poisoning of Sergei Skripal in Salisbury .

    The Government blamed Russia for the attack, with Theresa May describing the incident as ‘despicable’ and expelling a number of Russian diplomats.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    , @Tom Neumann
  23. utu says:

    Every high ranking university has several Stefan Halpers.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  24. @wren

    I stand between you and the apocalypse,” a confident Mrs. Clinton declared to laughs, exhibiting a flash of self-awareness and humor to a crowd that included Calvin Klein and Harvey Weinstein and for whom the prospect of a Donald J. Trump presidency is dire.

    Mr. Trump has pointed to Mrs. Clinton’s noticeably scant schedule of campaign events this summer to suggest she has been hiding from the public.

    The NYT. The 2016 Presidential campaign in a nutshell.

    Didn’t know that HC flew in to that fundraiser organzied by Lynn Rothchild. Are you sure, you dind’t dream this one up?

    • Replies: @wren
    , @Anon
  25. About ten days before he was shot, President Kennedy announced, at his last press conference, that about one thousand military personnel were going to be “rotated out” of South Vietnam in December, 1963 and January, 1964 (from 16,000 to 15,000).

    The “Warren Commission” concluded that Oswald acted alone. US Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren hardly ever attended any meetings of the “Warren Commission” because he was “too busy” at the Supreme Court.

    Within a few days of November 22, 1963, President Johnson canceled dead Kennedy’s “rotation” order, choosing instead to rapidly increase US military presence in South Vietnam in 1964.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
  26. Harris had been a big supporter of Blair until Blair threw in with the Americans over the Iraq Attaq. Harris is a left of center anti-American English nationalist in the Orwell mode, and London being Washington’s poodle is anathema to him.

    I think you are very much mistaken, Mr Steve. Harris is a strong friend of New Labour sleazebag Peter Mandelson. Indeed, Mandelson is godfather to one of Harris’s children. Whatever Harris says to sell books, you can take with a pinch of salt.

  27. LondonBob says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I heard a rumour from a high up politico that Blair was sleeping with Anji Hunter, an uglier version of Kim Cattrall.

    A good film, but Blair was more gung ho than Bush on Iraq and it was Blair pushing it to Bush. Blair was obviously lavishly funded by the Israelis, ‘Lord’ Levy and chums, so really it is all a bit of nonsense in that regard.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Gordo
  28. Thirdtwin says:
    @Anon

    “…the third volume of Harris’s Cicero trilogy…”

    Hunh. Somebody just quoted Cicero yesterday.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/johnbrennan/status/998245492864770048

    • Replies: @wren
  29. Mr. Anon says:
    @utu

    Every high ranking university has several Stefan Halpers.

    It must cost a bundle to feed them.

    • Replies: @utu
  30. @LondonBob

    And Blair was being pushed (albeit probably with little resistance) by Lawrence Freedman, who wrote Blair’s 1999 ‘intervention’ Chicago speech and was then, incredibly, appointed as a member of the Iraq inquiry committee (‘Chilcot’) – which flannelled its way through (the executive summary is 147 pages) to finding no one very much to blame for anything .

    http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/media/42664/freedman-powell-letter.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Freedman

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20171123123237/http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/the-inquiry/the-committee/

  31. Peter Hitchens writes, in his book The Cameron Delusion, that most of New Labour were hard-line communists in their youth, but that it’s difficult to prove this was so.

    One possible source of information has been closed. The Security Service is believed to have destroyed large numbers of files kept during the 1960s on Marxist Left-wingers soon after New Labour came into office in 1997. Mr Mandelson, by then a Minister, publicly urged that this should take place in remarks reported by the Guardian on 22 September 1997. On 11 January 1998 the Sunday Times carried a story saying that such files were now being destroyed. The Tory MP Julian Lewis drew attention to this odd fact in a brief Commons debate at around this time, and ministers, who attended the debate, noticeably did not take the opportunity to deny it.

    I was unable to find these news reports, or the relevant bit of Hansard (but then, I didn’t look very hard). Perhaps someone else will have better luck.

    Anyway: the point is that it isn’t necessarily far-fetched to think that Tony Blair & chums had strange connections to spooks in their youth. Clearly they wanted something covered up. And may I say I’m very disappointed that some patriot at MI5 didn’t leak said files to the press, or at least take a copy home. If only these Deep State types were on our side!

  32. Alfa158 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Well it’s true, the character wasn’t the handsome, rakish, devil-may-care, Errol Flynn type that everyone pictures when they think “civil engineer”. However it was interesting learning about the nuts and bolts of Roman civilization. The really rich guy who fed one of his slaves to his eels was supposedly based on a real incident. Augustus Caesar was having dinner with this rich guy and they were drinking from one of the earliest sets of leaded crystal goblets. A slave dropped one, breaking it, and at that time a single goblet cost more than a good slave, so the owner was going to have the slave thrown into the eel pond. Augustus pulled one of his self-righteous virtue signaling bits, stopping him, then teaching him a lesson on the value of human life by having his soldiers smash the rest of the crystal set.
    The engineer did have a rather cool job title though; Aquarius.

    • Replies: @Anon
  33. Gordo says:
    @(((They))) Live

    The left in the UK despise the fact that they once had an empire, its one of their defining characteristics

    what they subconsciously despise is losing it

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
  34. Gordo says:
    @LondonBob

    A good film, but Blair was more gung ho than Bush on Iraq and it was Blair pushing it to Bush. Blair was obviously lavishly funded by the Israelis, ‘Lord’ Levy and chums, so really it is all a bit of nonsense in that regard.

    Yes he was always chatting to someone from the ‘Embassy’ wasn’t he.

  35. If the character Tom Wilkinson played in The Ghost Writer was not specifically based on Stefan Halper, then it was someone else like him. Academia and the media in the US and UK is riddled with CIA and MI6 assets. Mockingbird never died.

    Roman Polanski: Knife in the Water, Repulsion, Rosemary’s Baby, Macbeth, Chinatown, The Tenant. Brilliant, intuitive filmmaker. Too bad he’s such a wretched pervert.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Anon
  36. Eagle Eye says:
    @a reader

    The bizarrely formulaic and incurious media reporting about the Skripal case strongly suggests that both Skripals were murdered by the British Deep State.

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/the-skripals-will-most-likely-never-be-allowed-to-talk/#comment-2337125

  37. @Steve Sailer

    The book is ostensibly a roman a clef about Tony and Cherie, but it could also be about Bill and Hill.

    Baby boomer bastards Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, George W Bush and Tony Blair are perfect representatives of total baby boomer evil.

    The evil baby boomer plot to use mass immigration, globalization, monetary extremism and financialization to destroy sovereignty and cultural cohesion in European Christian nations is going to be stopped by patriots born after 1965.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  38. J.Ross says: • Website
    @DFH

    Now now, it’s our fault for feeding him.

  39. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Eagle Eye

    Why does anybody ever agree to work with us? We gratuitously burn everyone from the Hungarians in the fifties to the non-Communist Vietnamese to Qadhafy to all these Russians in Briatin.

  40. fitzGetty says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    … it is not a geo location, rather a term which embraces the Oxford/Cambridge nexus…

  41. J.Ross says: • Website
    @SunBakedSuburb

    If I did not already love Polanski and hold him as a special exemption (the accusations against him are very different in character from normal Hollywood pedophilia anyway) than I would love him as much for trashing Dogma 95′s shakey cameras with a description of maintaining continuity while on a small boat. It was in an interview on a DVD, I can’t find it on YouTube.

    In November 1999 the Polish director Roman Polanski visited the National Film School of Denmark. During his stay he confirmed that he knew of Dogma 95 but when asked if he would make a film in accordance with its principles, he answered: “Everybody makes them now. My 6-year-old daughter does it all the time when she is running around with her digital video camera.”

    https://pov.imv.au.dk/Issue_10/section_4/artc2A.html

    • Replies: @utu
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  42. fitzGetty says:
    @Eagle Eye

    … but for a really lurid read, refer to the Body in the Bag case, London SW1, of a few years ago …

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
  43. fitzGetty says:
    @Eagle Eye

    … but for a really lurid read, refer to the Body in the Bag case, London SW1, of a few years ago …

  44. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Ali Choudhury

    I apologize, I had meant to spell it correctly but my phone is very bad.

  45. Eagle Eye says:
    @fitzGetty

    but for a really lurid read, refer to the Body in the Bag case, London SW1,

    Yep. There is a definite cultural component to spectacular, depraved crimes.

    The Body in the Bag episode may have been a frozen pantomime based on some insider expression, perhaps along the lines of “keeping it zipped.”

    One imagines the author of the Body in the Bag operation as a fastidious (no traces of blood or body fluids) weirdo whose unhappy youth was spent at a second-tier private school in the UK, probably with distant/absent parents.

  46. Tiny Duck says:

    Harper is a republican

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  47. dearieme says:
    @Mr. Anon

    My wife once acted with him. Not a nice man. Good actor though.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  48. utu says:
    @Mr. Anon

    They are in their professions though recruited by people like them early in their careers or during college. How much they are paid extra?

  49. utu says:
    @J.Ross

    One day when fake movies will be even more fake we will be grateful to Danes for Dogma 95. I have seen several of them and most of them liked a lot. There was no noticeable shaking of camera. Shaking is not mandatory. Not all cameramen have Parkinson.

  50. @Tiny Duck

    I thought she was a dead lesbian. How ignorant can I be? Thanks for the information.

  51. dearieme says:
    @Anonymous

    I once pointed out to Andrew that a few years earlier he’d made an espionage-related prediction to me that had proved unsuccessful. Boy can he pout.

    It’s a funny old world, that. My memory isn’t wonderful but I believe that I have either (i) signed the Official Secrets Act, or (ii) signed a document declaring that I would, if asked, sign the Official Secrets Act. Can such a document actually exist? Lord knows. But I have no secrets worth the telling anyway.

    And since I’m drivelling on about this subject, the cleverest job advert I’ve ever seen was posted in the Mathematics Reading Room where I studied a lot in my final undergraduate year. I read the ad. That’s a bit odd; what can it mean? I read it again. Oh subtle! It wanted laddies like me to work for MI5/MI6/GCHQ. (Since it was in the maths department presumably GCHQ was the likeliest destination.) The point was presumably that if you didn’t have the sort of mind that could see what it was driving at they wouldn’t have wanted to recruit you. Ever since I have dismissed the idea that those people are all a bunch of clowns. Some maybe; not all.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  52. @dearieme

    My wife once acted with him. Not a nice man. Good actor though.

    Yorkshire? Certain years spent in Canada? The project was irritating to him? That’ll do it to you.

  53. @J.Ross

    The films of Lars von Trier are meant to be punishment for the suckers who paid to see them. I lived in Denmark in the 1990s: very peaceful, rationalist, and collectivist. Not a fertile landscape for storytellers. I’m thinking about the line of dialog about Switzerland from Orson Welles’ character in The Third Man, but it escapes me. Anyway, it was relevant.

  54. Joe Walker says: • Website
    @Jake

    Good point. I always find it ridiculous the way the British complain about being pushed around by Americans when the British have spent much of the last thousand years pushing other people around. The British would probably still be pushing people around if they hadn’t been neutered by two world wars.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  55. Joe Walker says: • Website
    @(((They))) Live

    It is one of their few good characteristics.

  56. Joe Walker says: • Website
    @Gordo

    You are probably right.

  57. @dearieme

    Nick Patterson has been highly successful in three successive careers:

    Codebreaking for HMG in the Turing tradition.
    Making money for the ultra-successful Renaissance hedge fund
    Figuring out what David Reich’s ancient DNA means.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
  58. @a reader

    Oy vey! This is highly anti-semitic of the Brits.

  59. CJ says:

    That was a good movie. The ferry scenes were an excellent way of setting up the island environment and generally framing the whole thing. The politicians were separated from reality and consequences just as water separated the island from the mainland , in a bubble punctured only by the vengeful father who shoots Brosnan’s character at the end. In retrospect, that’s the kind of thing that should happen more often to some of these warmongering politicians. IIRC Roger Ebert was still alive to review this one and described Brosnan’s Brit Prime Minister as a character “who might as well have a name tag reading TONY BLAIR”.

    So, was that Stefan Halper (who blog commenters keep calling Stefan Harper, probably confusing him with the globalist tool Canadian Prime Minister)? Maybe, but there are probably a lot of people who would fit the bill.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  60. Disappointed the post wasn’t about Philip Roth’s “The Ghost Writer.”

    Love to read Steve’s take on Roth’s politically incorrect portrayal of Anne Frank.

  61. Anon[373] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158

    From a geek standpoint the book was really interesting. The Roman aquaducts are fascinating. Someone, usually a rich guy, would find a water source up in the mountains and build an aquaduct. Surveying the route must have been quite the engineering job. When they hit a hill they couldn’t get around they either tunnelled through it or built siphons made of many parallel thin lead pipes formed from lead plate to go over the hill. Once in Rome they just had the water going right into the homes of a few rich people, and the rest just spewed out of fountains night and day, no reservoirs (although in the Pompeii novel they do have a reservoir of sorts at the destination city.). The water that spewed out then went into a sewer that emptied into the Tiber, so there was running water in the sewer 24/7.

    There’s an engineer online who has a whole website just on Roman cement. In a lot of ways it was better than our cement, but impractically labor intensive and time consuming.

    Until Augustus everything was rich guys doing things, like the fire department, and of course the armies, although there were also mafia-like trade organizations. And death clubs, which were like insurance for building tombs when people died. By word count, most extant Latin is from tomb inscriptions. You can trace the decline of the empire, and the changes in the language, by how many mispellings were on tombs in each year, since the system deteriorated to the point that professionals no longer made the inscriptions.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
  62. Eagle Eye says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Nick Patterson has been highly successful in three successive careers:

    Codebreaking for HMG in the Turing tradition.
    Making money for the ultra-successful Renaissance hedge fund

    That’s ONE career, surely – you do a good job for us, then we help you make your fortune in the “City.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  63. @Eagle Eye

    Renaissance Technologies is on Long Island.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
  64. J.Ross says: • Website
    @CJ

    >people confusing election-disrupting spy Stefan Halper with Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper
    It’s helpful to remember that Stefan Halper’s given name at birth was Santos L.

  65. @wren

    Thanks. The nutshell of the HC-campaign-debacle seems to shine even a spark brighter now.

    • Replies: @wren
    , @J.Ross
  66. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Stefan Halper has not been seen since September 2017. Hmmmmmm

  67. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polynikes

    That isolated mansion in New England is based on an isolated New England mansion in a jack reacher novel published a few years before The Ghostwriter.

  68. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @wren

    Hildabeast takes yoga? How? Maybe she wiggles her hands and feet.

  69. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Loved Pompei, especially the exact engineering.

  70. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @(((They))) Live

    But the UK left still despise the Irish, maybe because they stayed Catholic .

    Of course America is their favorite 2 minutes hate probably because we prevented the take over of Western Europe by Russia after WW2.

    I know them well because of my English relatives

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  71. wren says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Brennan, a man who, as head of the CIA, no doubt left a lot of bodies in his wake tweeted out a Cicero quote to Trump the other day.

    Since, apparently, the Roman deep state of the time later killed Cicero, some right wing sites are claiming this is a veiled threat, but I am not so sure.

    With this level of pushback from Brennan and Comey et al, it feels like all these various counter-investigations must be getting warm.

    • Replies: @Wick
  72. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Think I read bout _Hildabeast and the Rothschild fundraiser.

  73. Anon[863] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Knife in the Water was a copy of a French film. Hated Repulsion loved Chinatown and Rosemarys Baby.

  74. wren says:
    @Thirdtwin

    Oops, I missed your comment before I posted the same thing.

    I wouldn’t consider myself head-of-the-CIA-or-FBI-smart but when I read tweets from Brennan or Comey, I get the feeling that I am reading something written by an insecure freshman or something.

    This was the deep state?

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  75. wren says:
    @Dieter Kief

    It will be even funnier if it turns out that one reason she couldn’t get off her chaise lounge in Martha’s Vineyard for days at a time (other than too much alcohol) was that she knew about some of the shenanigans the three letter agencies were playing with the Trump campaign and so thought she had it in the bag.

    She sure gave the appearance of not trying too hard.

  76. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Dieter Kief

    Republican congresscritters have announced that they will be pursuing these events as crimes. It’ll come out. Newly declassified emails are out, parsed by Sharyl Attkisson, and have various Obama administration people talking very openly to each other about a “sensitive material team” (“sensitive material” clearly = Steele Dossier from Fusion GPS). They had no opsec because they couldn’t imagine getting caught.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  77. Eagle Eye says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Renaissance Technologies is on Long Island.

    Ah. Still only one (follow-on) career for a once-and-always spook.

  78. LondonBob says:
    @Anon

    The UK left is Irish.

  79. LondonBob says:
    @wren

    Brennan is no Angleton, Comey no Hoover. Although they had no alt media to contend with.

  80. Wick says:
    @wren

    He was proscribed by Octavian and Mark Antony because he was writing writing mean things about Antony. Cicero’s big issue at the end from memory was he waited too long to pick a side and when he did he over estimated how much the Caeserians and Octavian in particular valued him.

    I’m not sure I’d call that a case of death by the deep state, its more a case of the man who always wanted to be apart of the deep state gets offed when the worthies who felt they were being kept out of things by their peers/ lessers won their revolution.

  81. Anonymous[518] • Disclaimer says:

    What do you think about this Steve?

    http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2018/05/deep-state-update.html

    Deep State Update

    It’s been clear for well over a year now that the Obama DOJ-FBI-CIA used massive surveillance powers (FISA warrant, and before that, national security letters and illegal contractor access to intelligence data) against the Trump campaign. In addition to SIGINT (signals intelligence, such as email or phone intercepts), we now know that HUMINT (spies, informants) was also used.

    Until recently one could still be called a conspiracy theorist by the clueless for stating the facts in the paragraph above. But a few days ago the NYTimes and WaPo finally gave up (in an effort to shape the narrative in advance of DOJ Inspector General report(s) and other document releases that are imminent) and admitted that all of these things actually happened. The justification advanced by the lying press is that this was all motivated by fear of Russian interference — there was no partisan political motivation for the Obama administration to investigate the opposition party during a presidential election.

    If the Times and Post were dead wrong a year ago, what makes you think they are correct now?

    Here are the two recent NYTimes propaganda articles:

    [MORE]

    F.B.I. Used Informant to Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not to Spy, as Trump Claims

    Code Name Crossfire Hurricane: The Secret Origins of the Trump Investigation

    Don’t believe in the Deep State? Here is a 1983 Times article about dirty tricks HUMINT spook Stefan Halper (he’s the CIA-FBI informant described in the recent articles above). Much more at the left of center Intercept.

    Why doesn’t Trump just fire Sessions/Rosenstein/Mueller or declassify all the docs?

    For example, declassifying the first FISA application would show, as claimed by people like Chuck Grassley and Trey Gowdy, who have read the unredacted original, that it largely depends on the fake Steele Dossier, and that the application failed to conform to the required Woods procedures.

    The reason for Trump’s restraint is still not widely understood. There is and has always been strong GOP opposition to his candidacy and presidency (“Never Trumpers”). The anti-Trump, pro-immigration wing of his party would likely support impeachment under the right conditions. To their ends, the Mueller probe keeps Trump weak enough that he will do their bidding (lower taxes, help corporations and super-wealthy oligarchs) without straying too far from the bipartisan globalist agenda (pro-immigration, anti-nativism, anti-nationalism). If Trump were to push back too hard on the Deep State conspiracy against him, he would risk attack from his own party.

    I believe Trump’s strategy is to let the DOJ Inspector General process work its way through this mess — there are several more reports coming, including one on the Hillary email investigation (draft available for DOJ review now; will be public in a few weeks), and another on FISA abuse and surveillance of the Trump campaign. The OIG is working with a DOJ prosecutor (John Huber, Utah) on criminal referrals emerging from the investigation. Former Comey deputy Andrew McCabe has already been referred for possible criminal charges due to the first OIG report. I predict more criminal referrals of senior DOJ/FBI figures in the coming months. Perhaps they will even get to former CIA Director Brennan (pictured at top), who seems to have lied under oath about his knowledge of the Steele dossier.

    Trump may be saving his gunpowder for later, and if he has to expend some, it will be closer to the midterm elections in the fall.

    Note added: For those who are not tracking this closely, one of the reasons the Halper story is problematic for the bad guys is explained in The Intercept:
    … the New York Times reported in December of last year that the FBI investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia began when George Papadopoulos drunkenly boasted to an Australian diplomat about Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton. It was the disclosure of this episode by the Australians that “led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired,” the NYT claimed.

    But it now seems clear that Halper’s attempts to gather information for the FBI began before that. “The professor’s interactions with Trump advisers began a few weeks before the opening of the investigation, when Page met the professor at the British symposium,” the Post reported. While it’s not rare for the FBI to gather information before formally opening an investigation, Halper’s earlier snooping does call into question the accuracy of the NYT’s claim that it was the drunken Papadopoulos ramblings that first prompted the FBI’s interest in these possible connections. And it suggests that CIA operatives, apparently working with at least some factions within the FBI, were trying to gather information about the Trump campaign earlier than had been previously reported.
    Hmm.. so what made CIA/FBI assign Halper to probe Trump campaign staffers in the first place? It seems the cover story for the start of the anti-Trump investigation needs some reformulation…

  82. Bill B. says:
    @Anon

    You can trace the decline of the empire, and the changes in the language, by how many mispellings were on tombs in each year, since the system deteriorated to the point that professionals no longer made the inscriptions.

    Hmmm …. grammatical solecisms are increasing in the MSM; style barely exists or is cumbrous.

    Many people is jobs that entail writing reports or analysis appears to have lost the ability to think clearly.

    Civil servant prose is increasingly obtuse. I haven’t checked the graveyards lately…

  83. MBlanc46 says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Dang! Just like high school! No one even told me about any of that. Left out of the cool stuff once again.

  84. Eagle Eye says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    [Yulia Skripal] appears to be alive, having just given an interview

    The alleged statement was bandied about in early April. Several observers pointed out then that the statement is written in dense British bureaucratese that was then translated into so-so Russian.

    This is what happens when you allow middling graduates of “comprehensive schools” and “red brick universities” to rise to middle-management level in the civil service. In the old days, elite bureaucrats could at least be counted on to have a thorough grounding in Classical Greek and Latin, and thus a more supple appreciation of language.

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/liars-lying-about-nearly-everything-2/#comment-2286097

    At a minimum, Sergei Skripal was murdered by Britain’s “Security Services” aka MI5, probably to silence a witness to MI5′s concoction of the Russia “dossier” by Christopher Steele, Pablo Miller and Sergei Skripal acting for a transatlantic Deep State cabal.

    Moon of Alabama correctly characterizes the belated British offering as a “hostage video.”

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/hostage-video-of-yulia-skripal-released.html

  85. @J.Ross

    In the novel, Professor Paul Emmet (Stefan Halper?) dallied with marijuana while at Cambridge in the 1970′s.

    In real life, Stefan Halper was busted for possession of crack cocaine, running a stop sign, and driving with a suspended license in 1994.

    I wonder if Robert Harris knew that when he wrote “The Ghost” a decade later?

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/court-docs-trump-campaign-spy-stefan-halper-busted-for-crack-cocaine-possession/

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