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By Bono

Lead singer of U2 and co-founder of ONE and (RED)
Aug 30
A Thought That Needs to Become A Feeling
Nationalists say diversity is a threat, but it’s Europe’s greatest strength

Screenshot 2018-09-01 00.17.03I’m told a rock band is at its best when it’s a little transgressive: when it pushes the bounds of so-called good taste, when it shocks, when it surprises. Well, U2 is kicking off its tour in Berlin this week, and we’ve just had one of our more provocative ideas: during the show we’re going to wave a big, bright, blue EU flag.

I’m guessing that even to a rock audience, waving an EU flag these days is either an annoyance, a bore, a kitsch reference to the Eurovision Song Contest but to some of us it has become a radical act. Europe, which for a long time triggered a yawn, today sparks a kitchen-table screaming match. Europe is the theatre of powerful, emotional, clashing forces that will shape our future. I say our future, because there is no way to deny that we are all in this boat together, in seas churned up by extreme weather and extremist politics.

Europe is a hard sell in Europe these days. This is true even though there has never been a better place to be born than in Europe during the last 50 years. ….

As a European I feel proud thinking back to when Germans welcomed frightened Syrian refugees (I’d feel prouder had more countries stepped up) …

But all these achievements are under threat, because respect for diversity — the premise of the whole European system — is being challenged. …

To prevail in these troubled times Europe is a thought that needs to become a feeling.

 
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  1. Who cares? Nobody gives a s**t what Bono thinks. Nobody under 4o knows who he is. An overrated band way past its sell by date.

  2. Danindc says:

    Bono, whilst playing a gig in Glasgow, got the whole crowd to be silent and then began slowly clapping his hands. He got the crowd to clap along for a while, the stadium quiet except for the rhythmic clapping…

    After a short period Bono spoke, saying that everytime he clapped his hands a child in Africa died …

    Suddenly, from the front row of the venue a voice broke out in thick Scottish brogue, ending the silence as it echoed across the crowd, the voice cried out to Bono “Well stop ****ing clapping then!!

  3. When a young man has access to narcotics and takes himself way too seriously, and those things become enhanced and enabled by decades of fame then yes, he becomes a parody.

    Another singular nicknamed musician is very similar: Sting.

  4. Anonym says:

    To prevail in these troubled times Europe is a thought that needs to become a feeling.

    And for that feeling one needs to don the Cuck mask. Much like McCain’s final statement.

  5. Bono: “Every time I wave blue flag poor eurocrat dies!”
    Crowd: “Wave faster you aging rockstar trying to be relevant!”

  6. @Danindc

    Did they start clapping faster?

  7. Strange, the people who made Europe were pretty anti-diversity. They thought foreigners should act just like them or be conquered.
    And no, this isn’t a parody.

  8. Anon[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Bono trying to avoid the self hate that comes from the continuing use of door locks.

    Sad

  9. Declane says:

    I’m told a rock band is at its best when it’s a little transgressive: when it pushes the bounds of so-called good taste, when it shocks, when it surprises.

    Why do I imagine Patrick Bateman reciting this?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  10. foulkes says:

    I think the article is real. Bozo has gone through an amazing transformation , for the worse, over the last decade.

    At one time you only saw U2 around other music people – Johnny Cash, BB King, Frank Sinatra.
    Then they start hanging with Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and the Clintons

    Their albums from 1980 to 2004 were Beatle level in quality. Their last three, starting in 2008 have been total crap. They always said they would give it up when they couldn’t do it any more

    Their concerts were full of energy. The last a couple times I saw them , they were a different group .
    Totally flat without any zip with no one under 40 in the crowd.

    Bozo is heavily involved financially in Facebook and offshore businesses. U2 isn’t even an Irish band any more. It’s a Dutch corporation that doesn’t pay any tax

    They used to have low ticket prices for their shows. Now they are astronomical

    They got seduced by the lucre of the rich and powerful. At the same time their music turned to crap

  11. newrouter says:

    ” during the show we’re going to wave a big, bright, blue EU flag.”

    Would Bono give his life for the EU flag?

  12. Sadly, if there is one thing Bono has in abundance, it’s sincerity.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  13. Lot says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Muslim/African slums are not diverse, but exactly the same everywhere in Western Europe. Burka women pushing strollers aggressively through crowds, kebabs, mass unemployment and welfare dependency, Saudi-funded mosques, “assimilated” teenagers dressing like American blacks and rapping out loud on public transit, etc.

    • Agree: Ganderson
    • Replies: @Peasant
  14. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Mass immigration

    “Companies are offering tens of thousands of dollars in sign on bonuses,” he says. “But it’s still not covering the hole.”
    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average truck driver made about $44,000 a year last year.
    Compare that with the inflation-adjusted average of just more than $55,000 a year in 1980. That means truck drivers make less now than they did nearly four decades ago.

    https://indianapublicmedia.org/news/industry,-drivers-disagree-on-how-to-address-shortage.php

  15. Bono sure likes national borders when they help him and his bandmates avoid taxes.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  16. Dan Hayes says:

    Bono is Modern Ireland. Modern Ireland is Bono.

    And that’s the problem.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  17. njguy73 says:

    Ireland is a place with a special emotional connection to Europe, and the idea of it. Maybe it’s because Ireland is a tiny rock in a big sea, eager to be part of something larger than ourselves (for most things are larger than ourselves).

    Ireland was part of something else. And it spent eight centuries trying to not be part of it, and finally succeeding.

    But I can believe the news today. Looks like once again, they’ll be singing the song. But for how long?

  18. Alfa158 says:

    If the premise was diversity then that would mean keeping independent countries. The current premise of the European system is the elimination of diversity

    • Agree: Almost Missouri, bomag
  19. Jason Liu says:

    maybe if the EU wasn’t an open air daycare run by oppressive schoolmarms it wouldn’t be such a hard sell

  20. … during the show we’re going to wave a big, bright, blue EU flag.

    I wish the EU would adopt Rem Koolhaas’ beach towel flag design. It better captures their mission: to both micromanage and ignore the wishes of the many peoples of Europe, all while maintaining a cheerful facade.

    The European Union Is Under Threat. Artists Say It’s Time to Rebrand.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/arts/design/europe-rebranding-wolfgang-tillmans-rem-koolhaas.html

  21. OT: the prime suspect in the murder of a 35-year-old German man and the attempted murder of two other people in Chemnitz had already filed an asylum application in Bulgaria on his way into Germany in 2015. This meant, theoretically, that Bulgaria was required under law to decide his asylum application, if Germany managed to do the paperwork to transfer him back to Bulgaria.

    The German authorities didn’t do this. When asked why, they refused to comment.

    https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article181368522/Fall-Chemnitz-Tatverdaechtiger-haette-vor-zwei-Jahren-abgeschoben-werden-sollen.html

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
  22. Boomer Bono no doubt was moved by Merkel’s Boner. A majority(?) of Boomer entertainers are parodies. Bono is better at playing SJW activist Boomer than playing American music, so give the bozo that.

  23. @Danindc

    So is that like Bono’s evil superpower?

  24. asdf says:

    …”and a failure to manage the migration crisis”. When I hear this, or ‘broken immigration system’, I assume they mean open borders.

    Anyway, thanks Jesus, I mean, Bono.

  25. @theo the kraut

    More on this: Iraqi Kurd Yousif A., one of the two failed asylum-seekers accused of stabbing 3 people in Chemnitz during a robbery attempt, killing a 35-year-old man, already had a criminal record including convictions for fraud, property damage, obstructing traffic in a dangerous manner, drug possession, and assault. He was out on probation at the time of the stabbing.

    Although his asylum claim was rejected, he was permitted to continue living in Germany as a “tolerated” (geduldet) illegal immigrant. This is a temporary status handed out by understaffed immigration agencies so they can to avoid having to deal with the hassle of deporting him, which entails an expensive 2-3 year legal odyssey.

    So when he tried to murder 3 people after a frustrated robbery attempt, Yousif had no legal claim to be in Germany, was only being allowed to stay because of bureaucratic incapacity, and was in no danger of being deported even though he had already amassed 5 convictions, and was on probation for assault.

    Despite the headlines, the majority of people on the streets of Chemnitz weren’t neo-Nazis, they were ordinary citizens who thought this state of affairs was a scandal.

    https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article181358302/Tatverdaechtiger-aus-Chemnitz-Yousif-A-war-mehrfach-vorbestraft.html

    This is from https://www.facebook.com/andrew.hammel/posts/10157838542264552, good comments giving background.

  26. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    “Big in Japan” as they say. Rocker types are always on the road milking audiences far and wide. In the lean times, South American and Asian audiences can help them buy that 10th mansion. We’re all just economic units to them. They don’t see a difference between a hometown kid who has analyzed every word and an Afghan migrant that doesn’t speak English and just went to the concert to molest white chicks.

    That’s what makes a guy like Morrissey so unique in his integrity, despite having a more Latino audience than the average English rocker. I wonder what Moz thinks of Bono’s ridiculous savior complex.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
  27. jcd1974 says:

    Europe was already diverse.

    The cultures, traditions and history of every European nation were distinct and unique.

    The idea that importing millions of Nigerians, Somalis, Afghans, Algerians and Syrians will make Europe somehow better is not only misguided but will result in the destruction of the cultures and values that make Europe European.

  28. anon[810] • Disclaimer says:

    A bit too ‘on the nose’, don’t you think?

  29. J1234 says:

    I’m told a rock band is at its best when it’s a little transgressive:

    It’s called “packaged rebellion,” Bono. I’m surprised you aren’t familiar with that concept. It’s been part of rock and roll since, well…whoever followed Bill Haley and Elvis.

    Well, U2 is kicking off its tour in Berlin this week, and we’ve just had one of our more provocative ideas: during the show we’re going to wave a big, bright, blue EU flag.

    Oh, so you are familiar with packaged rebellion, after all.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  30. TheBoom says:

    Having only one name turns white singers into insane virtue signallers who are beyond parady. See Bono, Sting, Cher and Madonna as examples. Bono needs an intervention where friends and family make him publicly start using his real last name. The CDC needs to start tracking this health crisis.

  31. “Europe is the theatre of powerful, emotional, clashing forces that will shape our future. I say our future, because there is no way to deny that we are all in this boat together”

    What you mean “we” kemosabe?

    • Replies: @Roderick Spode
  32. Not a parody, not a feeling, just degeneracy and cowardliness.

  33. A wish for a vibrant Europe is a dream of sanctification that Bono’s heart makes? Or something.

  34. It’s been a good 20 years since I listened to Bono on politics.

    • LOL: Kylie
  35. DuanDiRen says:

    OT, but fantastic insight into how the modern left sees itself: https://magazine.atavist.com/the-trigger-effect-scout-schultz-georgia-tech

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @MBlanc46
  36. Daniel H says:

    “……….but to some of us it has become a radical act.”

    Of course the “radical” Bono loves the EU. Under EU rules/laws, he and his bandmates, since no nation can claim them, have managed to sequester their enormous earnings in KPMG designed tax vehicles that enable them to avoid paying but the merest taxes on those earnings. Bono and his bandmates will probably waive their customary fee to croon gratis for the Davos consiglieri at their next hoedown.

  37. gate666 says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    he is not overrated.

    • Replies: @bomag
  38. Peasant says:
    @Lot

    Kind of reminds me of Kiryas Joel or Stamford Hill…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Nationalists say diversity is a threat, but it’s Europe’s greatest strength

    Wave the Soviet flag as well. It was for Diversity too. Come to think of it, Nazi flag was for diversity too as it was about German hegemony over diverse Europe.

    What EU forgot was that Europe is already Euro-diverse. It has diverse European peoples, and it’s a good idea to have them get along. This diversity was problematic and led to so many wars in the past. Why? Not because of nationalism but because imperialism — French, German, Russian, Austrian, etc — violated and suppressed national aspirations. Early on, EU seemed like a project of finding harmony among free European nations. But over time, it became more imperialist and began to chip away at national sovereignty. But its greatest offense was its indifference to Euro-Diversity. Apparently, European diversity — Anglos, Nords, Latins, Slavs, Hungarians, etc — wasn’t good enough. Diversity had to be Europe merged with Africa, Middle East, and Asia. European Union went from union of European peoples to union of Europe with non-Europe. It lost its meaning. Just like America lost its meaning when it became some globo idea of ALL THE WORLD flooding into the US as record pace.

    Another thing. To maintain diversity, there need to be nationalism. Without nationalism to balance out imperialism or unionism, all the diverse peoples eventually become merged into one mixed-up soup. Look what happened to Europeans in the US. They just became a mass of people called ‘white’. Now, whiteness works in the US for political purposes, but it has effectively undermined an idea of Euro-diversity in America. Sure, there are areas that are still markedly German, Scotch, Irish, or Polish, but most people have forgotten their languages and histories and just identify as ‘white Americans’. Diversity was lost. Europeans will end up ‘Americanized’ if they push the EU project too far. They will just become ‘white European’ than diverse nationalities. Macron the monkey is saying Danes and French should just become ‘Europeans’. That’s like saying Chinese and Japanese should just become ‘Asians’. Or Israelis and Arabs should just become ‘Semites’.
    So, even though union-ism can be good to an extent, its excesses have to be pushed back by nationalism. In the end, it’s not about nationalism vs unionism but about the balance between the two.

    But at this moment, EU really needs to go because the EU leaders, under control of globo-homo cabal, have expanded the EU mandate to fuse Europe with Africa, Middle East, and Asia. Also, EU is a political tool of the US. It has no real sovereignty.

    • Agree: bomag
  40. Thomm says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Funny you should mention that. Until recently, everyone thought Cher was Italian. In reality, she is from an Armenian father, and is no more Italian than James Caan.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  41. Perhaps I’ll summon commenters here who think I am not white because as an Irishman only 97% of my DNA comes from Northern Europe (in my case the archaic Iberian-derived “Milesian” genes make up about 3%, you see; Bono’s a similar mix from the looks of him)– but I feel occasionally like I need to explain the thinking of the majority in the modern Republic, not least because there have been some really dumb comments about my country posted here recently.

    Simply put, my understanding is that most Irish are pro-EU because the EU hasn’t fucked us over, yet.

    Quite the contrary. Economic subsidies from Brussels, and easier access to European markets, brought us out of a state of economic petrification; it was literally the first time indigenous Gaels had been wealthy. It stands to reason that the majority of us are going to somewhat blindly defend the EUrocracy, only capable of associating it with what has thus far seemed like free money. Then there’s the “small country” thing– one traditional Irish response to British hegemony has always been to throw our lot in with the Continental Europeans on the “other side;” as a matter of fact there was a rather warm relationship between Germany and the IRA during WWI

    I mention Greece and Poortugal (or Sweden for that matter) to members my family and try to make them understand that the loss of our fishing rights to international corporate fleets is only the beginning of this, our third go at being a colony. They solemnly explain that the beast “has been a very good thing for Ireland.” Sad!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  42. JimB says:

    Paul Joseph Watson has already mocked this.

  43. Wilkey says:

    1) U2 famously relocated from Ireland to another EU country with low taxes so that they could spend as little money as possible supporting the big government he claims to want.

    2) I just googled for pictures of Bono’s homes. None of them look like they’re anywhere close to a lot of Syrian refugees. They look like they could hold quite a few of them, however. I wonder how many he has living with him? I’m guessing at least 30 or 40. Certainly no fewer than that.

    • Agree: songbird, Roderick Spode
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  44. J.Ross says: • Website

    Bono’s writing was the subject of a rare unimpeachable criticism from a South Asian to a European on elegance and brevity. “It’s clear that this has not been edited or proofread by anyone.” The illustration is a rambling paragraph about Bono fetching a bottle of wine, bonking his head on stray mansion, and noticing an oil painting of a sunburst that Sinatra (whose death the piece is meant to observe) had painted and given to Bono years earlier. I cannot find this piece but maybe somebody else also read it; the author connects it to a larger problem of unaccountable elites surrounded by yes-men, who do not know how wrong they are because nobody dares to correct them.
    In lieu of what I was babbling Bonoically about here’s an old Gawker piece about his constant self-referencing, which reminds, er, well it should remind the reader of Obama and Hillary and the oft-observed tendency of progressives to always put themselves in the picture.

    http://gawker.com/5864205/bono-cannot-stop-writing-about-himself

    The piece criticized is here:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/opinion/11bono.html

  45. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Is U2 even relevant anymore in the age of Rap?

    How many future engineers and doctors do you see in this crowd?

  46. Dr. X says:

    Frankly, I never understood the appeal of U2.

    I remember reading an article in 1981 or thereabouts that they were going to be the Next Big Thing… and when they hit the U.S. market a couple years later, I was underwhelmed. They didn’t have the kinetic fist-pumping appeal of metal, and they didn’t have the clever edginess of punk. The name of the band — what, named after a 1960s supersonic spy plane??? the B-52s were a hell of a lot hipper and more entertaining IMHO — and the aliases of the singer and guitarist were just plain stupid. That obnoxious jangly guitar riff and idiotic shouting about Martin Loofer Kang in “In the Name of Love” drives me just about bat-shit crazy every time I have the misfortune of hearing it … again.

    How they’ve managed to stay in the public eye for nearly forty years is something I cannot fathom. I would hypothesize it is because the public is stupid and tasteless — but the public also has a short attention span. How, then, to ‘splain the band’s staying power?? I guess that maybe U2 are talented hucksters and swindlers… but that’s about it.

  47. Western Establishment is a rotted shack about to collapse, but it’s debris is still dangerous.

  48. These EU cultists poisoned the well by stealing the word “Europe” and adding to its meaning, their foolish and evil political scheme. Suddenly this ancient, rich word for this great expanse of land and peoples comes to mean “gay welfare mulatto empire”. Sad!

  49. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    He’s ‘Woke’. Woke is another one of those perfectly Orwellian terms the left comes up with, that intentionally confuses reality by saying the opposite of it’s true meaning.

    Bono’s been perpetually Woke pretty much his entire career. Being the good little boy doing exactly the sort of thing that the puppetmasters like Soros want, all the while wearing the rockstar mantle of bucking the dominant Patriarchy- being ‘cool’ is what they want you to do. What a ridiculous bunch of nonsense. You see it, you lose all respect for these sycophants. Truly selling your soul for 30 pieces of silver. People like Bono are especially POS because they of all people have a strong public reputation and could stand up against this if they want, they are obscenely rich so have no reason to fear that SJWs will cut off their income, etc.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  50. Europe is the theatre of powerful, emotional, clashing forces that will shape our future. I say our future, because there is no way to deny that we are all in this boat together.

    Pod-person Bono’s ideas are evil. They’re misanthropic. He wants to swamp the boat.

    Paging Garrett Hardin.

    https://www.garretthardinsociety.org/articles/art_lifeboat_ethics_case_against_helping_poor.html

  51. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, you’d need a seance or some pharmacological assistance to get that sage advice at this point.

  52. Thea says:

    Paul Theroux wrote a really good take down of Bono a decade or so ago. It started out “there are a few things in life more annoying than being lectured about third world poverty by a millionaire Irish singer in a cowboy hat but I can’t think of any right now.”

  53. The Z Blog says: • Website

    Grace on the cheap is nothing new. All humans, to varying degrees, want to believe they are connected to something bigger than themselves. It’s the root of religion. Humans also want the approval of others. We are social animals.

    With the collapse of Christianity, particularly among the elites, something had to fill the void. What we got is the dramatic public gesture. It’s why so many of these people feel no shame when they hold a fundraiser and pay themselves a hefty salary. They see the gesture and the business as two separate things. For a guy like Bono, mouthing the magic words is a cheap way to get some piety points.

    As an aside, I love how the egalitarian absolutist lecture us about not respecting diversity. It’s a good example of how cults work. They always project onto outsiders the things they hate about themselves.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    , @Bubba
  54. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:

    “I say our future, because there is no way to deny that we are all in this boat together.”

    That’s really the crux of the problem, isn’t it? If it were just that liberals choices affected only them it would be fair, and we could just let them learn the hard way about reality, but their asinine views have real consequences that screw up the lives of everyone for generations to come.

    Your typical rockstar has the IQ of a potato chip, has been roasting his brain with every drug known to man for the past couple of decades, and can barely keep even basic aspects of his own life together, yet we’re supposed to give a damn about their recommendations of complex global political, economic, and social policies that affect the lives of billions of people.

  55. On the whole, it is much better if people are good at converting feelings into thoughts. Sadly, many do not even know this is possible. but “feelings” reveal insights into reality and in complex cases what matters is using them as clues once the actual thinking commences. Often it never does.

    Converting thoughts into feelings is something probably best left to masters… at least on the public level. On the private level, I suspect it would be good if more people were better at it: “It actually makes sense that her life would flourish with mine. She doesn’t quite perceive it yet. What do I do….?” But on the public level… if you can do it you are probably a great malefactor or a great benefactor…

  56. Whenever I think of Bono and U2, I think great music.

    Like these:

  57. U2 must be the least diverse rock band of all time, not counting family acts.

    Four straight white males from extremely un-diverse 70′s Dublin, all born 1960-61, all students at the same private secondary school operated by the Church of Ireland. Three of them married girls from the same school.

    “Diversity” for members of U2 means things like one of them being from a Catholic-Protestant mixed marriage, and that one is genetically Welsh rather than Irish. Otherwise they are as homogeneous as it gets.

    They assembled the band by putting up a notice on a school bulletin board. One guy was soon replaced by his brother. Unlike more diverse bands, U2 has not changed their lineup over the years and also kept their original manager for more than 30 years.

    Stripped of its political posturing, U2 is in reality a textbook example of the benefits of a zero diversity, high trust “village” environment in which things get done easily and informally. As well as a demonstration that talent is plentiful domestically without any need for immigrant imports.

    Undiversity is their strength!

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  58. @Wilkey

    None of them look like they’re anywhere close to a lot of Syrian refugees. They look like they could hold quite a few of them, however

    Bandmate “Edge” inflamed the greens of SoCal with his cozy cottage dreams:

    http://www.malibutimes.com/news/article_8523c5da-2b7f-11e7-bcbe-a74e6cccb1ed.html

    http://static.latimes.com/the-edge/

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-5735efd2/turbine/la-me-g-malibu-edge-map-20160211

    • Replies: @Clyde
  59. Someone needs to buy Bono a dictionary. I don’t think he knows what transgressive means.

    If he wants to be transgressive he should wear a MAGA hat.

    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
  60. Barnard says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    As he once said, “if they’re illegal doesn’t that mean they’re breaking the law?” Rest in peace Sonny.

  61. Anon[177] • Disclaimer says:

    I liked the first four U2 records, but after that they went downhill. As for their politics, no one needs to listen to a rock musician talk about it. 99% of musicians have never thought about political issues at all from the viewpoint of an adult male, namely from the position of someone who has responsibility for others.

    The questions they need to be asking themselves are:

    1) Who’s paying for all this?
    2) How come you’re totally ignorant of Thomas Malthus, as well as every environmentalist notion about overstraining resources? How come you’ve never heard of this?
    2) How come you don’t recognize that people have different IQs as well as talent levels, and that these are innate? As a musician, you ought to be well aware that most people do not have the ability to make music at a professional level, so the notion that we’re all inherently equal in ability is nonsense.

  62. During a U2 concert, Bono stopped singing and started preaching to the audience about dying black babies. He started clapping his hands together about about every three seconds and then cried out that every time he clapped his hands a child in Africa dies from some terrible disease.

    Someone from the audience audibly shouted out, ” why don’t you stop clapping?”

  63. Europe is the theatre of powerful, emotional, clashing forces that will shape our future. I say our future, because there is no way to deny that we are all in this boat together.

    If Europeans are in the boat together, then the primary obligation they owe one another is to keep other people out of the boat.

    • Replies: @Redman
  64. songbird says:

    I wonder when Bono became a globalist.

    I guess one can argue you can see early signs. The worship of blacks: “Pride” in ’84, Live Aid in ’85, “Angel of Harlem” in ’88. His constant pushing of aid to Africa. The Spanish numbers in “Vertigo.”

    But when did he turn open borders, third-world into Europe? It seemed only a short time ago that he tauted Ireland’s tax competitiveness, which required at least some form of borders, and you might suppose at least a civic nationalism.

  65. Svigor says:

    I’m told a rock band is at its best when it’s a little transgressive: when it pushes the bounds of so-called good taste, when it shocks, when it surprises. Well, U2 is kicking off its tour in Berlin this week, and we’ve just had one of our more provocative ideas: during the show we’re going to wave a big, bright, blue EU flag.

    The altright is pretty transgressive. Doddering old PC gospel-rockers, not so much.

    What’s striking about U2 is how very little they know about black people, relative to how much the magic negro permeates their work. They’ve even got Stephen King beat on the Ignorance:Magic Negro ratio.

  66. Redman says:
    @ben tillman

    Bono is dumb as a brick. That’s clear as day. Used to see he and his wife strolling along Central Park West (they live most of the year in a Penthouse in one of the nicer buildings in XXth and CPW).

    I understand that the Edge has a cliff mansion in Malibu where he lives most of the year.

    Spare me the talk of diversity from these blowhards who are luckier than shit. Ireland will crater faster than all the rest of the EU since (a) they’ve never had “diversity”, and (b) they’re riding the wave of rebellion against the Catholic Church and the conservative values it stood for. They’re finally going through the late 1960s-early 1970s they missed out on.

    They haven’t gotten the first whiff yet of how “diversity” might not be what it’s cracked up to be. They will soon. But Bono won’t be there. That’s for sure.

    • Replies: @Cowboy shaw
  67. Daniel H says:
    @theo the kraut

    >>>More on this: Iraqi Kurd Yousif A.,

    Kurds cause plenty of trouble in Germany, Sweden, Norway and wherever else they are allowed entry, yet they are still considered the “good” Muslims. John McCain went to his death asserting that the Iraq war was worth it for the sake of the Kurds, others, such as William Kristol, nod their head in agreement.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  68. OT. Tactical victory in World War T by turning Alinsky technique against Them.

    Republican legislator stops “gender X” option for Massachusetts driving licenses by forcing separate votes on all 73 Facebook-recognized genders.

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/massachusetts-republican-beats-trans-drivers-license-bill-by-forcing-votes

    (via PTT, http://posttenuretourettes.wordpress.com/2018/08/30/trolling-done-right-ii/ )

  69. @Jim Don Bob

    Nobody under 4o knows who he is.

    Are you sure? They were already big in the 1980s. So probably 50-year-olds must know who he is.

  70. @theo the kraut

    Andrew Hammel used to run a good blog (German Joys) on what was happening there. I don’t/won’t use FB, so it’s a pity he’s moved to that ‘platform’.

  71. Svigor says:
    @reiner Tor

    The eighties were the last time U2 was cool. By the nineties none of the cool kids would touch them with a barge pole; way too “commercial” and Top 40. That said, I’ve always liked U2. You can put together a pretty great album cherry-picking their best stuff through the years.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  72. Seems to me Bono is a guy who has a knack for reading the zeitgeist, but long ago sold his soul to the wrong side. He sees the inevitable, but is stuck half heartedly going through the motions because that’s what he was put there to do. All in all I think it’s good news.

  73. Allen says:

    Sigh, Bono seems like a sincere and nice guy (with a self-righteous streak). Unlike some politicians and journalists who know better, I think he really believes this stuff and it probably makes perfect sense from his comfortable little corner of the world. But you have to be pretty removed from reality to think stumping for the EU, open borders, and welcoming refugees is in any way “transgressive.”

  74. istevefan says:

    People often state their desire to see the Blairs, Merkels and Junckers of this world meet their just end for what they have wrought. Add Bono and other such celebs to that list.

  75. MG says:

    How is Bono’s boner different from Merkel’s boner?

  76. ATBOTL says:
    @Daniel H

    The Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian immigrants you read about causing problems in Europe are heavily Kurdish. Especially the “Turkish” migrants who are badly behaved are disproportionately Kurdish compared to Turkish immigrants as a whole.

    American imperialist ideology has promoted this image of the Kurds as being these noble, oppressed “pro-Western” quasi-white people. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ed
  77. @Dr. X

    I saw U2 four times in 1981-1983, twice in medium capacity (2000-3000 halls) as main acts, once in an NBA arena as J. Geils opener, once low-billed at a huge outdoor show. They were an exciting live band. The Christian rock aspect of their music was pretty novel and refreshing. And Bono really wanted to be a huge star. At Steve Wozniak’s outdoor US festival in 1983, U2 was billed only about 6th on their day, but Bono understood how to perform in front of about 200,000 people better than the big stars like Bowie. For example, he had the cherry picker with the TV camera come down and fetch him off the stage and he soared out 100 feet high over the crowd.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    , @Autochthon
    , @Clyde
    , @Dr. X
  78. I haven’t seen U2 in 35 years, but back then they stood out as nice Christian boys (except for the bass player, who sneered like every other bass player, although he didn’t drop dead like some of them). The religious aspect of their music was pretty clear:

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Anon
  79. JimB says:

    I grew up near a set of railroad tracks. That’s where I used to hear the greatest rock and roll of all time. I would stand as close as I dare while a freight train with four engines in series lumbered past. You didn’t just hear the sound and rhythm of that train, you felt it deep in your guts.

    U2 can turn up their sound system all they like, but they can’t compete with a freight train for aural excitement. And their repetitive chords and trite lyrics suck. And they’re pussies. And Bono is an idiot.

  80. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @theo the kraut

    More on this: Iraqi Kurd Yousif A., one of the two failed asylum-seekers accused of stabbing 3 people in Chemnitz

    One wonders if the Kurds, despite their sympathetic portrayel in the Jewish media (because of their useful hostility toward Arabs), will turn out to be highly ethnocentric immigrants with high indices of crime, like some other immigrant groups.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  81. Anonymous[229] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Zooropa (1993) was the turning point

  82. Anonymous[229] • Disclaimer says:
    @ATBOTL

    They have a peculiar language that is closer to German than Arabic or Turkish.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  83. @YetAnotherAnon

    He closed shop at his old blog for no good reason, recently he moved to a new one at https://andrewhammel.blog. However, he deals with immigration and crime only sporadically any more, he lost his mojo a bit, I guess it’s too frustrating.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  84. Sean says:
    @Steve Sailer

    They are not all as English as Bono, or as tax efficient https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/is-it-fair-to-label-bono-a-hypocrite-over-his-tax-affairs-or-is-hypocrisy-just-a-part-of-life-36305907.html
    Bob Geldorf is no different.

    Ostentatious philanthropy is an essential part of a successful tax avoidance strategy, it also helps ward off concern about predatory business practices. For example a recent New Yorker article about corporate destabliser and raider (he always wins as against Jonathon Bush or the whole country of Argentina) Paul Singer notes his funding of pro gay rights politicians has protected him from liberal ire over his extreme disregard of the people losing jobs as a result of him increasing shareholder value . Ultimately it is all to the good because, as the New Yorker article indicates, the lower orders become disgusted with the system and hence populism triumphs.

  85. @njguy73

    Ireland is a tiny rock in a big sea, eager to be part of something larger than ourselves (for most things are larger than ourselves).

    “Lots of horrible shit in this world gets done for something larger than ourselves.”

    –Sandor “The Hound” Clegane

  86. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    One wonders if the Kurds, despite their sympathetic portrayel in the Jewish media (because of their useful hostility toward Arabs), will turn out to be highly ethnocentric immigrants with high indices of crime, like some other immigrant groups.

    AFAIK Germany has had problems with Kurdish underground activities reaching back to the 80s. Currently it’s practically on the level “that’s fine dog in burning house”.

    Here is an interview with someone called Ralph Ghadban, previously manager of an organization that gave advice to Arabs, run by the Protestant Church (Diakonisches Werk), who apparently personally knows clan leaders.

    The article says that mob activity in Berlin is now controlled mainly by 12 Kurdish Clans, strongly organized by bloodlines:

    https://www.cicero.de/innenpolitik/mhallamiye-kurden-ihre-verachtung-fuer-uns-ist-grenzenlos/60845

    We have the whole show. Police no-go zones, “can’t do anything” because the mob will immediatly swarm:

    Es reichen zwei jugendliche Intensivtäter, die die Kinder auf dem Schulweg überfallen, um ein ganzes Viertel in Panik zu versetzen. Wenn man sich mit so jemanden anlegt, hat man sofort die ganze Sippe am Hals, und zwar innerhalb von Minuten. Zusammenhalt und Rudelauftritt sind die Prinzipien, auch gegen die Polizei. Wenn eine Streife jemanden für eine Kontrolle anhält, hat sie plötzlich 50 Leute um sich. In bestimmte Straßen trauen Beamte sich kaum mehr rein.

    Google translate be good enough:

    If there are two juvenile intensive offenders who attack the children on the way to school, you panic a whole neighborhood. When you intervene with someone who does that, you immediately have the whole clan at your throat within minutes. Cohesion and pride are the principles, even against the police. If a patrol stops someone for a check, it suddenly has 50 people around. Officials barely dare to enter certain streets.

    Die Bürgerkriegsflüchtlinge waren damals Ende der 70er Jahre ein neues Phänomen. Man hat sie als Armutsflüchtlinge betrachtet und als Schmarotzer beschimpft, konnte sie aber gesetzlich nicht abschieben. Stattdessen hat man das Asylgesetz verschärft und nannte das Abschreckungsmaßnahmen: Arbeitsverbote für ein, dann zwei, schließlich fünf Jahre. Ab 1982 wurde für den Asylantrag ein Pass verlangt, um später die Abschiebung zu erleichtern. In der Folge haben sie alle – nicht nur die Mhallamiye – ihre Pässe verschwinden lassen. Was wir heute mit den fehlenden Reisedokumenten erleben ist also überhaupt nicht neu, und das wirkt sich bis heute aus, ein falsches Verständnis für den Respekt anderer Kulturen. Man befürchtete, Ausländer zu stigmatisieren, und hatte die Idee einer moralischen Verpflichtung gegenüber Einwanderern. Darum hat man alles akzeptiert und toleriert, es gab eine Multikulti-Stimmung, die auch auf die Justiz abgefärbt hat.

    The civil war refugees at the end of the 70s a were new phenomenon. They were regarded as “refugees of poverty” and verbally abused, but one could not deport them by law. Instead, asylum law got tightened as deterrent measure: working was prohibited for one, then two, and finally five years. From 1982 onwards, a passport was required for the asylum application, to facilitate later deportation. As a result, they all – not just the Mhallamiye – got rid of their passports So what we are experiencing today with the missing travel documents is not new at all, and that still has an impact today, a false understanding of the respect of other cultures. People feared stigmatizing foreigners and had the idea of ​​a moral obligation to immigrants. That’s why everything was accepted and tolerated, there was a multi-cultural atmosphere that also rubbed off on the judiciary.

    But:

    Zumindest muss man sich umgekehrt keine Sorgen um die islamistische Radikalisierung krimineller Mhallamiye-Clans machen.

    Richtig. Sie sind entschieden gegen religiösen Terrorismus. Obwohl es viele Gemeinsamkeiten gibt: Denn beide sind total gegen unser Wertesystem.

    Although Mhallamiye Clans in complete enmity against “western values”, they are not open to islamist terrorism either.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  87. Ed says:
    @ATBOTL

    Interesting, in America Kurds are concentrated in the newly diverse Nashville and its suburbs. There have been stories there of Kurdish gangs getting into big brawls with other students.

  88. @Redman

    They’re going through an interesting phase. I wonder how much of this angry progressivism you get from the young Irish is a form of latent protestant ascedency re-emerged from the private schools of Dublin sticking it to the unreconstructed Catholic and Presbyterian ‘savages’ they share their island with. Seriously strange people.

  89. bomag says:
    @gate666

    As a political philosopher he is overrated.

  90. bomag says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Schools turn down children…

    File this under “we can’t have nice things anymore” because Bono wants us to give everything away to Africa. Except his stuff.

  91. bomag says:
    @newrouter

    Would Bono give his life for the EU flag?

    LOL

    He’s become more famous by urging other people to give their lives away for the EU flag.

  92. Puremania says:

    U2, for those who don’t know, is the highest earning band in the world. Their drummer, Larry Mullen, was brought to the attention of Francis Crick’s neuroscience student David Eagleman by their producer, Brian Eno, after Mullen told Eno that the click track they were synchronizing to was rushing, then lagging. Eno at first denied this, but analyzed this later and found that Mullen was right: he had heard a deviation of two, and then six, milliseconds (!). Eno called it “staggering”.
    Musicians functioning at this level are in a world of overproof workohol. A front man like Bono has a lot to keep track of, so I think his political views can be understood, if not excused. His exposure to dissident-right thinking is probably limited.
    And anyway, come on, pop music is one of the main buttresses of the blue-pill Cathedral. When I want to hear something that aligns with me, ideologically, I’ll play the late great Power Station covering “Taxman”.

  93. Anonymous[399] • Disclaimer says:

    Bono?

    ‘Bozo’, more like.

  94. Clyde says:

    Can you believe this annoying Bono. Bono + U2 are major tax dodgers are far as Ireland is concerned. Not paying their fair share as a SJW would put it. There was a protest at Glastonbury Festival in 2007

    Activists from protest group Art Uncut made their point by unfurling a 25-metre inflatable balloon bearing the slogan ‘U pay tax 2?’ in front of the 50,000 fans watching the band perform on the festival’s Pyramid Stage.

    Friday’s protest was directed at U2’s 2006 decision to cut their tax bill by moving their business affairs from Ireland to the Netherlands. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2007956/U2-upstaged-tax-protest-Glastonbury–campaigners-left-deflated-security-pop-balloon.html

    File under: Cheap bastards! Lousy tunes too! U2 moves its corporation for world wide tours from Ireland to the Netherlands. Once domiciled there a very minimum tax is taken. I believe half a percent. U2 domiciles its other corporations there too, but touring is the most lucrative.

  95. Anon[454] • Disclaimer says:

    Negro enjoys white rock

  96. Bono’s pompous posturing, on & off stage, always bored me.

    I don’t want to think about what Van Morrison’s and Enya’s politics may be, but they are my idea of Irish musicians.

    Anyway, imagine Bono in Berlin, actually speaking truth to power for the first time in his life.

    Imagine him telling his fans about Monika Schaefer & Sylvia Stolz & Ursula Haverbeck, and demanding their freedom:

    “The Trial of Monika Schaefer and Sylvia Stolz”:
    — ( https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/01/25/the-trial-of-monika-schaefer-and-sylvia-stolz/ )

    “10 Months Prison for Ursula Haverbeck”:
    — ( https://codoh.com/library/document/3857/ )

    That would require courage far beyond what a pampered poseur can muster.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  97. @Danindc

    Died of malaria, probably. We should thank Rachel Carson and her tissue of lies “Silent Spring” for having DDT banned in Africa for that.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  98. hhsiii says:
    @Anonymous

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/881924/Morrissey-Angela-Merkel-Germany-immigration-migrant-crisis-crime/amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/morrissey-blames-immigration-for-disappearance-of-british-identity-760825.html%3famp

    Yeah, I preferred U2’s music to The Smith’s due to the limp mop ones of the latter. And yes, people under 40 know who U2 is. I took a 25 year old girl to a u2 show about 12 years ago, so she’d just make the cutoff. But she did complain when Bono got all preachy on stage.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  99. dr kill says:
    @Steve Sailer

    J. Geils, that’s what I’m talking about. At the Spectrum in 1972, Slade, then J. Geils, then Humble Pie.
    All for 5 bucks.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  100. @theo the kraut

    He didn’t blog exclusively about migration and crime back in the German Joys days (a lot of it was simply about the pleasures of German life) but he didn’t shy away from it either.

  101. Bill B. says:

    I think it is sweet how in the photograph Drunkel is desperately gripping the flag (out of shot) so as not to fall over…

  102. @foulkes

    “Their albums from 1980 to 2004 were Beatle level in quality. Their last three, starting in 2008 have been total crap. They always said they would give it up when they couldn’t do it any more” mostly agree. 2013s Songs of Innocence is solid 1-11, but 2009 and 2017 offerings are mostly forgettable, save for the song “Moment of Surrender” from 2009. Bono has become a whore for funding to his “charitable” concerns, playing to the egos of the Clintons, Gates, etc. From his 2013 song The Troubles, “Somebody stepped inside your soul
    Somebody stepped inside your soul
    Little by little they robbed and stole
    Till someone else was in control” Bono is controlled by others, just like Pope Francis.

    • Replies: @Anon
  103. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Roderick Spode

    You have to see the forest instead of just the trees. Of course there are reasons for people doing what they do, but ultimately, if you keep supporting the EU, you will find yourself an old man in a country of hostile Muslims permanently taking over your country, having more kids than you did (paid for by the sweat of your brow), and embedding your grandchildren in a nightmare.

    A little free money today is not worth the destruction of your country long term.

    Socialists usually lure people along with ‘free’ things- free money, freedom from responsibility for one’s actions, etc. It’s a way to enslave people ultimately, to go along with their will, until they’re too far under the thumb of the Socialists to do anything about it. Then the free ride ends in a hellish tyranny.

    • Replies: @Roderick Spode
  104. Brutusale says:
    @Dr. X

    I always love it when Bobcat Goldthwait mocks Bono. Paul Hewson proves every night how funky Irishmen aren’t.

    I don’t think there’s a more mockable poseur in music.

    Speaking of mocking, this was one of my favorite skewerings of three pretentious celebrity assholes.

  105. bomag says:
    @DuanDiRen

    Quite an eye opener for me.

    Forty five percent of trans people have attempted suicide? Wow.

    The article indicates that college campuses is where LGBTETC gather to commiserate and demand public spending on their behalf.

    The police don’t come off very well, either.

    After a non-racial article, at the end we get the gratuitous shot at white supremacy. Just can’t help themselves.

    • Replies: @DuanDiRen
  106. pyrrhus says:
    @Dr. X

    Bono is a boring act of little originality, which appeals to people of similar caliber.

  107. Tulip says:

    The whole globalist billionaire thing–and their entourage including Bono and the people who used to play tennis with Susan Thompson, Buffett’s dead wife–it has come to have something like a late-Vichy flavor.

    Why is everyone so angry at us? Its not like we are the Nazi’s? We are just trying to keep things together during this crisis. Sure, no one actually ever voted for these policies and none of these policies would ever survive a referendum, but that doesn’t make them illegitimate or undemocratic, they are just sort of “transgressive”. Even calling themselves the “Resistance”–who says irony is dead.

    If Petain had adopted a rock band, it would have been proto-U2.

  108. Boilz says:

    Bozo…. Err Bono …might be taken more seriously if his band paid taxes somewhere. As it is they are registered in the Netherlands which is about tax free. One might also ask him to stop the UN showboating. Maybe he wear the sunglasses all hours cause he has something to hide.

  109. @reiner Tor

    Huh?
    I think you got the over/under wrong.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  110. Mr. Anon says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Sadly, if there is one thing Bono has in abundance, it’s sincerity.

    And as George Burns said: The most important thing in show business is sincerity. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.

  111. Mr. Anon says:

    I’m told a rock band is at its best when it’s a little transgressive: when it pushes the bounds of so-called good taste, when it shocks, when it surprises.

    Bono has got to be one of the least transgressive, least shocking, least surprising, establishment-approved hacks alive today.

  112. One of the bright spots in getting older is getting wiser. Rich and famous seems to innoculate you from the perils of getting dumber in this life.

  113. @theo the kraut

    Same shit–different location. Just change the name from “Yousif A” to, say, “Rodriguez” and the venue from Chemnitz, Germany to San Francisco, USA.

  114. MBlanc46 says:

    Waving the EU flag. Wow, that is transgressive. Even oppositional. Bordering on the subversive.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  115. @newrouter

    I’m more certain he’d give yours.

  116. @Steve Sailer

    Soooo…you’re telling us his genius ploy was to copy stuff Kiss had been doing for almost a decade? Where’s that darned .gif of McKayla Maroney when I need it….

  117. @Rosamond Vincy

    Tweet from 2015:

  118. @The Z Blog

    It’s been said countless time most everyone with a clue: Religion hasn’t been eliminated from the upper class; Christianity was simply replaced by Progressive Paganism. They just swapped out the old idols for news ones: weather, primitive humans, globalism, and sexual deviants.

    Bono thinks of himself as a prophet.

    (BTW U2′s music mostly bad.)

    • Agree: Bubba
  119. Bubba says:
    @The Z Blog

    “I wear these diamonds for you!” – Evita

    “I own mansions and pay no taxes for you!” – Bono

  120. @Stan d Mute

    Who can forget this classic:

    The first 1/2 of the 1st verse is pretty appropriate re: Bono.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  121. @academic gossip

    Someone more clever than I could start a twitter trend lambasting U2 for not having a POC band member. #u2sowhite or some such.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  122. @Stan d Mute

    In the year 3000, aliens will visit Earth dressed in fake beards and Ren-Fair garb: “We come from the far side of the galaxy seeking … Jeth-Ro-Tull. Where is He, that we may meet Him?”

  123. AndrewR says:
    @Declane

    Mild transgressiveness is generally a good quality in a rock band. But really, how transgressive is it to support the destruction of Germany and Europe through homogenization and mass third world immigration?

    Personally, I think it’s a moral obligation to take in refugees. But those refugees cannot all be allowed into the general population. They should be in guarded camps for the duration of their refuge, and returned home as soon as it’s safe. But confining people in camps is considered to be a great evil due to foolish/dishonest interpretations of some unpleasant events of the last century.

  124. Jim Given says:

    Bono has been repeatedly nominated for the Bill Gates/Sergey Brin Annual Award for Loyal Service to the Empire.

    “A thought that should become a feeling?” !!

    This deserves further attention!

    My immediate response invoked the commercials on late-night TV, or in picture magazines, showing you sad abandoned animals, or sad refugee children and begging for your support.
    “For only $19.95 a month you can become the patron of a failed globalist policy. . . . . or, you can turn the page!”

    But there’s also an aspect of Rehab:
    Can a Wrong Thought become a Righteous Feeling?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  125. Wasn’t For EU Blue a George Harrison/Beatles song?

  126. @MBlanc46

    Ain’t it funny how those who fight for the interests of the globalist oligarchs see themselves as a defiant insurgency. Antifa comes to mind, with its battlecry, “We we don’t stand up for the rich and powerful, who will?”

  127. Sure Paddy, tell us about ‘diversity.’

    The Irish had a few white Protestants move in and they couldn’t stop slaughtering each other for 300 years.

    My Dad has never been to Ireland and he still calls the British flag the ‘Butcher’s Apron.’

  128. NickG says:

    Bono is a bonkers bogtrotter.

  129. Hubbub says:

    diversity — the premise of the whole European system…

    Then the premise of the whole European system is a fraud that continues to defraud the various peoples of Europe the continent. Just a feeling I have.

  130. @Pat Kittle

    Actual diversity – the kind Bonehead wants destroyed.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  131. “I was talkin’ with me mate Paul O’Neill at Davos some time back, and we both looked around and it was just ger-gous, all the diverse billionaires, all the talented oligarchs from so many different and interestin’ backgrounds.

    And I was chattin’ with another Irish bloke, Pallonji Mistry, and we both agreed that what our coontry needs is more Irish Parsis like himself, to be sure.

    Actually, we wuz gonna name U2 ‘Culture Cloob’ back when we started, seeins we ‘ad a black Irish an’ a Welshman in the band, but some fannyballs in London already had the same idea. Fair play!”

    • LOL: Clyde
  132. MBlanc46 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Skiing into that tree seems to have derailed his political career.

  133. @Jim Given

    The abused and abandoned animals are nothing to do with the other rot (except inasmuch as only white people much care for animals (or husbandry, custodianship, and conservation generally; call it the nobless oblige of being such a dominant species…) So their flight is worsened by the increase in mud people and the destruction of Europeans).

  134. @Steve in Greensboro

    Steve, there are Bald Eagles soaring through the skies of WNY and in an article about them, the Buffalo News, restated the well debunked lie that DDT was the cause of their near demise. Rachel Carson is numerically responsible for more deaths than Pot Pol.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Stan d Mute
  135. asdf says:

    “…there has never been a better place to be born than in Europe during the last 50 years. ”

    Which is why we need to let everyone move there.

  136. MBlanc46 says:
    @DuanDiRen

    I don’t know what’s more ominous for civilization, the poor mentally disturbed young people or the gender-studies-and-journalism-professor author.

  137. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peasant

    Really, even the rapping?

    One actual similarity: At least as far as Kiryas Joes goes, that is home of Satmarites whose anti-Isral BS would be at home at a mosque.

    • Replies: @Peasant
  138. ATBOTL says:
    @Anonymous

    So do Pashtuns in Afghanistan.

  139. Anon[391] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    U2 sounded pretty good when they were an Irish working-class band. Now that they’re a bunch of rich globalists with zero Irish identity at all, they suck.

  140. Anon[391] • Disclaimer says:
    @It's All Ball Bearings

    The main problem with U2 is that they’re Irish peasants who were overawed when they had the chance to hobnob with the rich and famous people at the big house. They sold out and just parrot what their new rich and famous friends say.

    It’s a very old phenomenon.

  141. El Dato says:
    @Dr. X

    that’s a subsonic high altitude spy plane and anyway de gustibus non est disputandum for evident reasons.

    there is too much on the internet from the “stop liking things i don’t like” drawer.

  142. Forbes says:
    @Justice Duvall

    Self-interest: It all depends whose ox is being gored. Or the taxes one pays, or avoids…

  143. El Dato says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    now actually think about this pol pot crap what you have written and how it doesnt make any sense at all.

    banning ddt was absolutely the right thing to do. if african countries need it, they should use it.

  144. Forbes says:
    @J1234

    I guess waving a big blue flag is provocative in the same way that flippin’ off the audience would be provocative…

    Most people, outside their craft, e.g. musicians, singers, actors, don’t know crap–well, except for plumbers…

  145. drtomcor says:

    “I feel this”

    My son and I heard this guy start some interview with those words 15 years ago…since then that is our inside joke for pompous foolery.

    Bono is beyond full of himself, whatever that is

  146. @Dr. X

    I’ve never cared much for Bono, whose voice sounds like a poor man’a Neil Diamond. The real key to U2’s success has always been the Edge’s guitar playing. He’s never been known for flashy solos like Hendrix or Van Halen, but his use of reverb and echo is truly unique and pleasant to the ears.

  147. eagles says:

    Bono is turning cherry from all the globalist Kool-Aid he has been drinking

  148. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous

    Bono is so woke he’s embracing the dominant bureaucratic establishment–the very thing rockers have revolted against. I guess that’s the new transgressive–going against the grain of what rockers have always done.

  149. Clyde says:
    @Steve Sailer

    U2 was billed only about 6th on their day, but Bono understood how to perform in front of about 200,000 people better than the big stars like Bowie.

    “Mysterious Ways” is the only U2 tune I really like. Live U2 are pathetic bumblers compared to peak live David Bowie from 1976. Station to Station. Bear w the first two minutes of establishing crowd atmospherics at the Montreal Forum. Then it takes off.

  150. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    No one but illegal alien visa overstayed Indians living in a garden shed like you ever thought that Cherilynn Sarkisian was Italian. She was raised in the Armenian neighborhood of Fresno Ca.

    That neighborhood became well known long before Cherilynn was born because William Saroyan wrote many books and stories about that Armenian neighborhood.

    Her mother was Irish English & Cherokee typical of southerners. Maternal grandfather was a country singer.

    Cher’s early publicity was full of her Armenian last name and her blend of old American English Irish and more re recent Armenian immigrant parentage.

    You obviously snuck into America long after Cher retired. How’d you get here? Tourist visa overstay or shipping container?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    , @Anonymous
    , @Reg Cæsar
  151. Clyde says:
    @Anon

    No one but illegal alien visa overstayed Indians living in a garden shed like you ever thought that Cherilynn Sarkisian was Italian. She was raised in the Armenian neighborhood of Fresno Ca.
    That neighborhood became well known long before Cherilynn was born because William Saroyan wrote many books and stories about that Armenian neighborhood.

    Fresno is known for all the Armenian heritage grape growers in that region. I hope some of their children stayed in that business. I knew Cher was part Armenian but did not know she grew up in Fresno.
    Lulz ….Faker Fakir Thomm you are busted!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Thomm
  152. Peasant says:
    @Anonymous

    ‘Really, even the rapping?’

    No but especially the shameless welfare fraud and ethnic block voting.

  153. Clyde says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    U2’s The Edge Closer to $79M Malibu Dream Home
    April 24, 2017 MATT REYNOLDS
    LOS ANGELES (CN) – A state court judge has ruled for U2 guitarist The Edge in his long-running fight to break ground on a $79 million residence in the Santa Monica Mountains, quashing environmentalists’ hope to halt the project for a more thorough review of the project’s effects on climate change and air pollution.

    The 55-year-old guitarist has been at the center of the controversial development called the Sweetwater Mesa Project since he bought the 151-acre site 12 years ago, and has faced fierce objections from environmental groups and residents.

    In December 2015, the California Coastal Commission approved the homes. But last year, the Sierra Club revived the legal battle by claiming the state violated environmental laws by approving the five-home development, and that the commission had wobbled in response to legal threats.

    https://www.courthousenews.com/u2s-edge-closer-79m-malibu-dream-home/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  154. I believe Bono is the perfect “rock star” for mindless dolts who look to actors and/or musicians for moral and ethical insights. Pretentious, pompous drivel. If I cared to vote I sure wouldn’t let Bono or any other self-important guitar and mike stand brandishing fool influence me.

  155. @Clyde

    A good example of how closed off Malibu is to population increase. The Edge not only has $79 million to spend on a house, he is also the career partner of Bono, who is pals with Bill Clinton, the Dalai Lama, and just about everybody else among the Great and the Good.

    And yet even somebody that connected has had to wage legal trench warfare for a dozen years — buying off local environmental groups, providing employment to term-limited state legislators, etc — to get permission to build on his own property.

    You might almost call the good people of Malibu xenophobic.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    , @Wilkey
  156. @Clyde

    The popular novelist William Saroyan made Armenian-Americans in California well known with his 1943 bestseller “The Human Comedy.” For awhile, Louis B. Mayer wanted Saroyan to be successor at MGM.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @anon
  157. Clyde says:
    @Steve Sailer

    You had a blog post about Edge’s pursuit to build his zillion dollar dream house on Malibu cliffs overlooking the ocean. I suppose it will come with gold or platinum kitchen counter tops? Granite is for the nouveau riche and Formica (what I like) is for the proles.

    As far as I know, the current female (read status seeking) obsession with granite in the kitchen, is just about all imported. Quarried and cut outside the US.

    For six years now, U2 guitarist The Edge has been trying to convince the California Coastal Commission to allow him to mar an untouched Malibu cliff with five private mansions with swimming pools,… from Curbed L.A. 2015

  158. @YetAnotherAnon

    A silly fellow now that you mention him, declared Clinton supporter while vociferously opposing Merkel’s Solution, badly affected by Trump Derangement Syndrome. He even published a pair of very moronic posts weeks before the 2016 election, one predicting how Trump was going to lose because “America does not vote NYC assholes for POTUS” and another celebrating Clinton’s victory as a done thing and fantasising about how the US was going to be under her command.

    Truly idiotic stuff. Needless to say the day Trump won I trolled him with gusto quite a bit in the comments section.

  159. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Who can forget this classic:

    As a Detroiter I hang my head in shame that I didn’t think of this..

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  160. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Someone more clever than I could start a twitter trend lambasting U2 for not having a POC band member. #u2sowhite or some such.

    No, they’ll just claim they’re Black Irish..

  161. @Autochthon

    Yes, Enya comes from the same corner of Ireland as my father: Donegal, aka “the fortress of the foreigner”. She comes from the Irish-speaking people just over the hills from what must be the most westernmost parts of Plantation Ulster, Ramelton.

    So English, Lowland Scots, Norse and Celt all mingle and overlap there. The people are Catholic, Presbyterian and Church of Ireland (Anglican). Their great-grandfathers fought on different sides in the Civil War and for and/or against the Crown. Apart from that though, there’s no diversity.

  162. I’m told a rock band is at its best when it’s a little transgressive: when it pushes the bounds of so-called good taste, when it shocks, when it surprises.

    My five-year-old daughter is pursuing an ambitious dual career path, planning to become both a doctor and a rock star, although I think her medical practice will just be a backup in case her main career falters. This morning she informed me that it was not necessary to be pretty to be a rock star, once just needed to be ‘cool’. Got it!

    The trouble is that rock stars, like many top-level sportsmen or poker players, perhaps, need a high level of intelligence and drive to be successful, but often have little formal education. When they are very successful and become immensely wealthy, they need something other than rock music to keep their mental faculties engaged, otherwise they will end up like Elvis, Prince, or Michael Jackson.

    To me people like Bob Geldof and Bono are pompous assholes, but at least they are trying to do some good in the world.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  163. @MikeatMikedotMike

    LOL nobody’s perfect.

    Whoa, careful there Mike, you’re going to have the Bible Thumpers after you like they’re after me if you don’t retract that comment..

  164. foulkes says:
    @Dr. X

    Frankly, I never understood the appeal of U2

    .

    I discovered U2 as a teenager in the 80s. I immediately liked them

    They could rock with the best of them , without the depravity and debauchery of many rock bands. Trips to rehab, leaving illegitimate children around, smashing up hotel rooms, wrecking sports cars never impressed me much

    The songs were so uplifting and appealed for real social justice. They spoke out against Irish sectarian violence , Central American juntas and for Amnesty International. They approached these topics in a Christian humanist way, not in a left-wing” Im socially superior to everyone else’ way.

    Their albums were real growers. There were so many not-so-obvious gems in them – Mothers of the Disappeared, A Sort of Homecoming, Drowning Man, One Tree Hill, Acrobat

    Concerts were stunning., full of positive energy , And they plowed all the money they made back into the concerts. Sony invented all this new technology for the Zoo-TV tour . Bono had the live charisma of Jim Morrison

    They didn’t charge as much as they could for concerts, making them as affordable as possible ( though that may have been to guarantee a sell out, which looks better) I heard stories of their people going into the nosebleeds and bringing fans into front row seats (which were dominated by industry people)

    Every album sounded different. war, the Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby didn’t resemble each other but were all amazing

    That’s why I liked U2

    Now they are a joke. The music is crap. They look ridiculous prancing around like they are cool rock stars. Rather like a middle-aged woman carrying on like she still has sexual power.

    My guess for the decline is they got to old and too rich. They finally ran out of ideas for new music. And their lifestyles don’t help with creativity. Bozo lives in the San Remo overlooking Central Park hanging out with people knowing how to massively game the system . Great life but not conducive to making great art. It matters who you surround yourself with.

    • Replies: @dcite
  165. @Jonathan Mason

    rock stars … need a high level of intelligence

    Ahem, my homegirl Madonna Ciccone would both disagree and disprove your thesis. After all,

    [Aw hell no, no damn way am I inserting “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” here]

    And, by the way, Rock and Pop are not the same. Michael ‘Liz Taylor’ Jackson? Madonna?

    To me people like Bob Geldof and Bono are pompous assholes, but at least they are trying to do some good in the world.

    Doing bad by trying to do good? Like Bill Gates? Or simply moral preening to keep their name in the press long after their musical talent died?

  166. DuanDiRen says:
    @bomag

    I strongly recommend “The Man who would be Queen”, it is about gays and transexuals.

    The biggest takeaway I got from the article was how unemployable they were in any context other than academia. It says one briefly had work as a barista; can you imagine being xir’s supervisor? Everything is a grievance.

    “Please mop the toilets.”
    “Why, because I’m a trans genderqueer of color???”
    “No, because it is 9pm, and they need to be mopped every 3 hours.”
    “You are a cishet oppressor!Your grandparents owned slaves.”

  167. @Buffalo Joe

    Rachel Carson is numerically responsible for more deaths than Pot Pol.

    But can she compete with Margaret Sanger?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  168. Dr. X says:
    @Steve Sailer

    They were an exciting live band. The Christian rock aspect of their music was pretty novel and refreshing. And Bono really wanted to be a huge star. At Steve Wozniak’s outdoor US festival in 1983, U2 was billed only about 6th on their day, but Bono understood how to perform in front of about 200,000 people better than the big stars like Bowie. For example, he had the cherry picker with the TV camera come down and fetch him off the stage and he soared out 100 feet high over the crowd.

    Eh. If you want to see a circus, I guess that’s fine. But to each his own. Live and let live.

    Back then, I was into seeing “guitar gods,” not a flying trapeze act. I saw Blackmore, Alex Lifson, Clapton (he sucked, Jimmie Vaughn was the opener and smoked him), Ted Nugent, Steve Vai with Bill Sheehan and David Lee Roth (they were all fantastic). Got into a bit of jazz fusion snobbery and saw Mahavishnu John McLaughlin with Paco deLucia and Al DiMeola. Saw Metheny couple of times and Stanley Clarke. Never saw Eddie, though, or Stevie Ray or Jaco. B.B. King used to tour all the time and I recall saying to myself “If I don’t see this guy soon, he’s getting pretty old and someday I won’t be able to.” Never did see him before he passed. Never saw Steve Morse either, back in the day… wish I had. Those old Dregs tunes still sound pretty good.

    So maybe I saw only about 50% of the great players from back then.

    “Edge” or whatever the hell his name is was never on the list…

  169. @foulkes

    Meh. I liked their first single, I Will Follow (which was basically a poor boy’s cop of Public Image’s Public Image), but after that I found them pretty dire.

    Bono always rubbed me the wrong way. I wanted to punch him in the face before it was fashionable.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  170. @Dr. X

    Lot of people get adept at playing to their average crowd size. But playing in the middle of the afternoon to 200,000 people … U2 at an early age was better playing in mid-afternoon under those weird conditions than even veterans like Bowie and Petty playing top billed at night.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
  171. @A Patron of the Arts

    I liked their first single, I Will Follow (which was basically a poor boy’s cop of Public Image’s Public Image),

    Right. PIL in 1978 sounded like the future:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  172. @Steve Sailer

    The future turned out to be U2. In 1980:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  173. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @dr kill

    J. Geils, that’s what I’m talking about. At the Spectrum in 1972, Slade, then J. Geils, then Humble Pie.
    All for 5 bucks.

    What is $5 in 2018 dollars?

  174. @Steve Sailer

    The popular novelist William Saroyan made Armenian-Americans in California well known with his 1943 bestseller “The Human Comedy.” For awhile, Louis B. Mayer wanted Saroyan to be successor at MGM.

    Saroyan was the uncle of that other Armenian-American cultural giant, Ross Bagdasarian, otherwise known as David Seville.

  175. @Anonymous

    Anon, I agree with you that it has been a Faustian bargain, and I think the cuckolding is only just beginning for Ireland.

    A Eurosceptic movement will appear eventually, and some of our many homosexuals could probably be convinced to switch to abandon the left wing position on immigration for reasons of personal survival… but in the long run, I don’t have high hopes. Too many Irish cultural institutions are too good at exploiting Irish emotions about migration.

    The soil of Eire is likely to be watered again with the blood of patriots, who do still exist here. As usual, the best of us may end up being simple country folk.

  176. Bono always rubbed me the wrong way. I wanted to punch him in the face before it was fashionable

    What’s Irish for Backpfeifengesicht?

  177. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Her mother was Irish English & Cherokee typical of southerners.

    What is “Irish English”? Is that someone of Anglo Saxon or Norman descent who immigrated to Ireland or someone of Gaelic Irish descent who immigrated to England?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Svigor
  178. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X

    The Edge was never a guitar hero but a guitar player that played what made the band sound good, rather than draw attention to himself. I was never a U2 fan particularly but the guy knew what he was doing.

  179. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan d Mute

    “Maguire” was a commentator at the late Robert Frenz’s “First Amendment Exercise Machine”, and a retired US Army infantry officer. I find this quite insightful, although it is quite long, I apologize for its length: yet I felt it’s good enough to warrant unexpurgated review.

    Eugenics Is Back?

    The Proven Value of American Negative Selective Eugenics and the Continuing Fallacies of Positive Eugenics Breeding Theories

    And my point is, even if a small group of people would pool their resources and breed children that would have IQs in the above 180 group, these few children with the right training and dedication would be the driving force for change and human advancement. Just one child with an IQ above 180 and with the conscientiousness to use it, is worth a thousand average children with the best education money can buy.

    Practical experience says that when one engineers to optimize just one capability, one winds up with a highly suboptimized construct. If I.Q. measurements alone were the ultimate determinant of human value, then Mensa wouldn’t contain such a huge density of truck drivers, waitresses and trailer park Sealey Posturepedic Mattress Queens.

    That writer also cited the Jews as a positive example of a eugenics program designed to optimize ‘intelligence’. If I were to use the Jews as an example of eugenics, it would be to illustrate the infinite social dangers of trying to optimize for just one trait on the basis of empirical observations. Physically and emotionally they are a mess. Ashkenazi Jews have a strong congenital defect known as Tay Sachs Disease. Just ask any obstetrics doctor. This is why medical questionnaires for pregnant women always ask about Ashkenazi Jew lineage. Jews also experience far higher than average rates of insanity and other mental and emotional dysfunctions.

  180. An9ono says:

    Where’s Sonny when we need him?

  181. dchall22 says:
    @njguy73

    takes only a second to say good bye.

  182. anon[887] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    William Saroyan also had a fistfight with Ernest Hemingway in a hotel, somewhere around 1946.
    Iirc, that’s according to Charles Bukowski.
    Does anyone know the outcome, as it seems to have disappeared down the memory hole.

  183. @njguy73

    “Ireland was part of something else. And it spent eight centuries trying to not be part of it, and finally succeeding.”

    Below is a video of ‘Bullet The Blue Sky’ from the European leg of the Elevation tour. Apparently Bono decided to turn the song into a rant against the hegemony of the most powerful members of the UN and EU.

    It really is shocking how hard Bono swallowed the globalist pill over the last 15 years.

  184. Not such a beautiful day: Bono loses voice ‘completely’ during U2’s Berlin gig (VIDEOS)”
    Published time: 2 Sep, 2018 10:16

    https://www.rt.com/news/437435-u2-bono-cancel-concert/

  185. Dr. X says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I wish I’d have had the good sense to have been listening to this stuff back then. Here’s a guy playing before a big crowd right in your back yard, Steve… and literally rocking the house:

  186. dcite says:
    @foulkes

    Now they are a joke. The music is crap. They look ridiculous prancing around like they are cool rock stars. Rather like a middle-aged woman carrying on like she still has sexual power

    .

    So they are rather elderly men carrying on like they still have sexual power? I see. I’ve been chuckling at the Rolling Stones for about 3 decades now, but at least they can be entertaining to some. If you remember the young Stones it’s surreal.
    Actually Bono is not really Irish. Not if you look at his background. He’s atypical. He’s also paid by the same “elite” who pay the Hollywood creatures to spew their swill.

  187. Anon[489] • Disclaimer says:

    Sure, Bono is a stupid, over the hill prick, but his list line, the money shot if you will, is pretty profound.

    Trump won by using the technique of Positive Thinking, in which Step One is to convert your goal (thought) into a deeply felt feeling.

    On Trump:

    https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Meme-James-J-OMeara-ebook/dp/B01NBLFMIR/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535902045&sr=8-1&keywords=o%27meara+trump

    On the Method:

    https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Secret-Annotated-James-OMeara-ebook/dp/B01G0SBTOG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535902022&sr=8-1&keywords=o%27meara+feeling

    • Replies: @Svigor
  188. @Dr. X

    I didn’t see the name Jerry Garcia on that list of the greats. Did you have a chance to see The Dead, Dr. X?

    I like “The Edge”‘s* quick chord-changing rhythm guitar, though. As I wrote in an open letter to Mr. Bono early last year (do people ever get those open letters? I sent it next-day air.): “Bono, you’d be serving up fries chips if it weren’t for The Edge.

    * … probably not even his real name.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  189. @Steve Sailer

    I didn’t get a chance to read many of the comments yet, but I’m sure I’ll enjoy the reading. However, no matter what I think of Bono and his naive ignorant big mouth, this song is one of the best in rock. Turn it up to 11 or until the stuff on the mantle starts to slide around, then back off a hair:

    and, no, I don’t know what he’s on about in the lyrics. It doesn’t matter. Turn it up!

  190. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    This is the MENA/SWANA personality profile. Jews are pretty much the same, except a good deal smarter and more practiced in the ways of Europeans.

  191. Wilkey says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “You might almost call the good people of Malibu xenophobic.”

    Trump really needs to call their bluff by proposing low-income refugee resettlement housing in Malibu and Martha’s Vineyard. Find the toniest leftist enclaves in the country and propsoe to resettle 10,000 Muslim refhgees in each. They need the labor! The Lefties would have to show what total lying pieces of shit they are. Trump has the power to call attention to their hypocrisy in a way that no one else does.

  192. @Anonymous

    What is “Irish English”?

    A co-worker once told me he was English and Irish. I said he must hate himself.

    It took him a few seconds to get it, but his retort was classic. “Yes. I oppress myself, then I rebel.”

  193. @Anon

    She was born in El Centro, which is closer to Tijuana and Nogales than to Fresno. Where did you get Fresno from?

  194. @Achmed E. Newman

    I really liked Keith Levene’s guitar playing in 1978 on “Public Image” in Johnny Rotten’s 2nd band Public Image Ltd. I assume the teenage Edge did too. He made a great career out of Levene’s style.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  195. @Thomm

    I had thought she was Italian too, just because I’ve mostly just seen her in the movie Moonstruck, in which she plays an Italian girl. I guess there’s no way for you to know that if you’re still live in that shipping container, per Miss #257. It’s hard to get good reception in one of those things, and the cable company won’t come unless you have a real address, not a just a pier or dock number.

  196. @Steve Sailer

    I just listened to both of your embedded songs above (had not heard of Public Image before) and the guitars indeed sound a lot alike. Now, listen to Bad live. I wish that ending would go on another 5 minutes.

  197. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s “Irish, English” without a comma.

  198. Svigor says:
    @Anon

    This is part of what “the power of prayer” is about.

  199. Thomm says:
    @Clyde

    Wut?

    Are you WN wiggers really this stupid?*

    Everyone (before the Internet) thought Cher was Italian. This was long before Moonstruck as well. The reason was not just her sultry looks, but the fact that Sonny Bono was Italian.

    If you wiggers took off your gimp suits and went outside once in a while, you might actually have a clue about American pop culture.

    *That is a rhetorical question. As we know, WN wiggers have IQs of about 70, and are deficient in all other aspects of intelligence as well.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  200. Mr. Anon says:
    @Thomm

    Everyone (before the Internet) thought Cher was Italian. This was long before Moonstruck as well. The reason was not just her sultry looks, but the fact that Sonny Bono was Italian.

    Anybody who ever saw her real name, Cherilyn Sarkisian, knew that she was an Armenian.

    If you didn’t, it’s because you are a vacuous idiot.

    Heh heh heh heh

    A stupid, simpering laugh – is that your intellectual superiority on display?

    A**hat.

  201. Thirdtwin says:

    You want to be transgressive, then just burn it, you paunchy, meek toady. There’s got to be a substantial penalty for burning the Euruflag.

  202. And how much did Soros pay this POS. This is outright racism.

  203. @Jim Don Bob

    Stronly agree!!!
    I can’t stand assholes with some fame think they know shit!!! He is a moron who knows nothing about reality.
    Hated the way he looked with those grandma glasses, name of the band, and him talking shit to make himself relevant!!! Never listened to his garbage when most of the potheads around me were because of that stupid name “BONO”, a name of a jackass!!! People need to tell him to “shut the fuck up”!!!

  204. Thomm says:

    Anybody who ever saw her real name, Cherilyn Sarkisian, knew that she was an Armenian.

    There was no Internet then, dumbass. People could not easily look such a thing up.

    Plus, ‘Armenia’ was part of the Soviet Union from well before the age of television (her fame is from television) all the way until 1991. Hence, ‘Armenia’ as a country was very unfamiliar to Americans and did not exist on any map. Of course, now I am imparting knowledge that is about 40 IQ points higher than you possess, so my effort is wasted.

    You keep displaying ever more extreme levels of stupidity, on account of your 70 IQ. You should take off your gimp suit once in a while and go outside.

    Heh heh heh heh

  205. Mr. Anon says:

    There was no Internet then, dumbass. People could not easily look such a thing up.

    And yet I knew it.

    Plus, ‘Armenia’ was part of the Soviet Union from well before the age of television (her fame is from television) all the way until 1991. Hence, ‘Armenia’ as a country was very unfamiliar to Americans and did not exist on any map.

    There were lots of famous Armenian-Americans. William Saroyan, for example. Ara Parseghian was another. Smart people heard of them. That category evidently does not include you.

    Heh heh heh heh

    You really are a lead-paint-chip-eating kind of stupid, aren’t you?

    And how come you don’t answer in reply? Looks like you don’t want your post to be searchable, so that I won’t rebut it. Very passive-aggressive on your part. Very beta.

    Retard.

  206. The EU was formed to implement the Coudenhove kalgeri plan for Europe and it has been brought to fruition over the last hundred years.

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