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The President of the United States has long claimed to be a believing Christian. For many years, he trumpeted his decades of theological tutelage under his spiritual adviser Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Rev. Wright has made clear that, although he was a Muslim for a while, he espouses “Black Liberation Theology.”

Before finding Rev. Wright, Obama was, according to his Dreams from My Father, a regular reader of the Nation of Islam newspaper The Final Call. But the failure of Rev. Farrakhan’s “POWER” attempt to launch a blacks-only brand of toothpaste and other toiletries convinced Obama there wasn’t enough money in black economic nationalism.

But some people remain skeptical, citing Obama’s formative years in Muslim Indonesia.

Back in 2012, I published a Taki’s Magazine column that finally made sense of Obama’s odd upbringing:

Making Sense of Obama: The Muslimist

… The first two-dozen years of Obama’s life saw him on a path for a professional niche that nobody has quite explicated before. Until he upped stakes and moved to Chicago in 1985 to participate in the Council Wars racial struggle with the implausible goal of becoming mayor of Chicago, Obama was gliding down an unusual path: to become an international interlocutor, a graceful go-between connecting America and the Muslim world. …

In American history, the two most controversial castes of missionary-derived mandarins were the Old China Hands and the Arabists.

The former were typically sons of Protestant missionaries born or raised in China, such as Owen Lattimore, John Paton Davies, Jr., and John S. Service. The left-leaning diplomatic, academic, and journalistic China Hands clashed with the right-leaning China Lobby in the 1940s and 1950s over whether American should back Mao Tse-tung or Chiang Kai-shek. Was Chiang a loser or was Mao a lunatic? (Unfortunately, it turned out that both could be true simultaneously.)

Similarly, as outlined in Robert D. Kaplan’s 1995 book The Arabists: The Romance of an American Elite, Protestant missionaries from the Atlantic Seaboard voyaged to the Arab world in the 19th century. They didn’t have much luck converting the locals to Protestantism. (Obama’s Columbia professor Edward Said was a rare Arab Protestant.) But these intermarried families founded influential schools such as the American University of Beirut.

The Arabists played an influential role in American foreign policy until largely being squeezed out by Zionists angered with the Arabists’ sympathy for the Palestinians.

Much of the Muslim world, however, is not Arab—for example, Indonesia, Pakistan, and large parts of black Africa. And that opened up a potential career path not as an Arabist per se, but as a “Muslimist.” The Muslimist route became especially promising in 1973 with the Muslim-dominated OPEC’s emergence as an economic power. The oil cartel included not only Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Libya, and Iran, but also Indonesia and part-Muslim Nigeria.

And who was better suited by family, friends, and personality to become a professional Muslimist than Barack Obama? As Obama told his biographer David Maraniss, the “obvious path for me given my background” was to get a graduate degree in international relations and wind up “working in the State Department, in the Foreign Service, or working for an international foundation.…”

After all, how common is it for an American citizen to be the biological son of an East African government official and a Ford Foundation employee in Jakarta, and the stepson of an Indonesian who works in government relations for an American oil company because his brother-in-law was in charge of mineral rights for the Jakarta regime? …

Obama’s elders recognized that this career path made sense for him. Thus, at substantial expense, he attended Occidental, an underachieving but quite WASPy/international liberal-arts college, and then majored in international relations at Columbia.

Most of Obama’s male friends from age 18 through 24 were rich Pakistani Marxists, putting him on the fringes of the powerful Bhutto circle. …

But it’s also telling that his best American buddy, Phil Boerner, with whom he transferred from Occidental to Columbia in 1981, was the son of a peripatetic diplomat.

Likewise, Obama’s most serious New York girlfriend, Genevieve Cook, was the daughter of a top Australian diplomat/spy in Indonesia who later became Australia’s ambassador to America. Genevieve was also the stepdaughter of the chief counsel of the International Nickel Company, which had lucrative mining interests in Indonesia. (Continuing this Muslimist theme, she rebounded from Obama to marry the son of an Egyptian educator.) …

Obama’s dearth of creativity would not be a defect in, say, a Foreign Service lifer, where his job would have been to relay messages from the State Department to the host government and vice-versa. The “blank screen” aspect of Obama’s personality would have suited him well for a job as a relay.

Obama’s most obvious talent is that he is good at listening to people speak and then repeating it back accurately and elegantly, showing comprehension as well as rote memorization. This is a crucial skill for diplomats—the ability to grasp the implications of what the foreign official is saying and pass it back to Foggy Bottom.

But Obama didn’t like the messages coming from Washington in the 1980s, enormously successful as Reagan’s foreign policy turned out to be. Reagan’s landslide reelection in 1984 was followed by Obama’s bizarre turn to insular Chicago politics in 1985.

 
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  1. Hepp says:

    Obama is not a Muslim. He reminds me of every other liberal I’ve ever met in my life. That means he’s atheist/agnostic, but favors Islam over Christianity because he favors whatever is seen as Eastern/Brown as opposed to Western/White.

    It’s absolutely bizarre, but expected, to watch the media demand that Republicans serve as witnesses to his Christian faith.

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    "Obama is not a Muslim. He reminds me of every other liberal I’ve ever met in my life. That means he’s atheist/agnostic, but favors Islam over Christianity because he favors whatever is seen as Eastern/Brown as opposed to Western/White."

    Keep in mind that Barack Hussein Obama not only carries his father's name (abjuring "Barry," which he was once called, for "Barack"), but he called his "autobiography" "Dreams from My Father" despite the fact that his father was out of his life after a couple of months and he had very little contact with him, being raised by his white mother and white grandparents. He didn't become a Christian until he joined Rev. Wright's church sometime in the late 80's, by his own admission. Both his father and step-father were Muslims. So, for some reason, his father played a much greater role on Obama's life than the facts would justify, and he has more reason to favor Islam over Christianity than what you suggest. There was also that incident when he was being interviewed by a prominent newsman and inadvertently referred to his Islamic faith only to be corrected by the newsman that he meant his Christian faith and Obama quickly said he meant to say his Christian faith. I have never made such a slip-up in my life, and I doubt anybody who was raised a Christian ever made such a verbal slip. (BTW I was raised a Christian, but have been a nonbeliever since I was 13 or 14, despite being dragged to church every Sunday until I graduated from high school and went away to college.) I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theories that Obama is a "secret Muslim," but the record is less clear than his most ardent supporters insist.
    , @Massimo Heitor

    Obama is not a Muslim. He reminds me of every other liberal I’ve ever met in my life. That means he’s atheist/agnostic, but favors Islam over Christianity because he favors whatever is seen as Eastern/Brown as opposed to Western/White.

    It’s absolutely bizarre, but expected, to watch the media demand that Republicans serve as witnesses to his Christian faith.
     
    This is correct.

    In Obama's autobiography, he really makes it clear that he is not in any way a believing Christian. He was passionate about Jeremiah Wright's church as a black nationalist political movement, not out of some Christian faith. I'm sure he isn't seriously Muslim in the religious sense, but he does side with Muslim in the non-whites vs white sense.
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  2. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    How would you classify the Bushes and other Protestant Republicans like Cheney who seem to have very close ties to the Saudis?

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    Jeb converted to Catholicism as part of his transmexicanization.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    Traitors.
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  3. Buzz Mohawk says: • Website

    When Barry made his bizarre turn to Chicago in 1985, he had decided to become a professional black man. Not a black professional man, but a professional black-man. To do this, he needed to join a black church.

    If blacks were all Mormons, he would have joined a Mormon temple.

    The man has no religion. Imagine.

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    "If blacks were all Mormons, he would have joined a Mormon temple."

    Mormon temples are buildings where certain religious rites considered especially sacred are performed - marriages, endowments, baptisms for the dead, etc. A Mormon congregation is called a ward, and wards do not meet in temples. You do not "join" a Mormon temple. For that matter, you don't really even join a ward - you join the Church and then you are assigned to a ward based on where you live.

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  4. wren says:

    I am still amazed that we know so little about his past.

    His mother did spend five years in the Hilton in Pakistan, for example.

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  5. Jefferson says:

    Lindsey Graham is extremely offended at Ben Carson’s comment that he would never want to see a Muslim become president of The United States.

    Lindsey Graham is such a politically correct social justice warrior, no wonder he polls well below 1 percent among Republican primary voters.

    The other day Lindsey Graham was bashing Donald Trump for not defending the honor of Hussein Obama. Yeah defending Hussein is really going to help his popularity rise among Republican primary voters.

    Lindsey Graham is polling so low in the polls that he does not even pretend to be a fake conservative anymore. He is showing his true Social Justice Warrior colors because he knows the chances of him winning the Republican nomination is the day hell turns into a ski-resort. He does not care about pissing off the conservative base because they are not going to vote for him anyways.

    Since they are not voting for him, he is basically giving them the middle finger.

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    But can anyone explain why he is running? Is he being funded to pull primary votes from someone else? If so, he's not accomplishing much. There's a theory that some of these candidates are in the race just to split up all the non-Jeb! votes so Jeb! can get by with a small plurality. Trump really mucked up that plan.
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  6. @Anonymous
    How would you classify the Bushes and other Protestant Republicans like Cheney who seem to have very close ties to the Saudis?

    Jeb converted to Catholicism as part of his transmexicanization.

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    Jeb converted to Catholicism as part of his transmexicanization.
     
    It's not complete until you're a full-fledged anticlerical iconoclast. Mexico's élite is about as Catholic as France's.
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  7. tbraton says:
    @Hepp
    Obama is not a Muslim. He reminds me of every other liberal I've ever met in my life. That means he's atheist/agnostic, but favors Islam over Christianity because he favors whatever is seen as Eastern/Brown as opposed to Western/White.

    It's absolutely bizarre, but expected, to watch the media demand that Republicans serve as witnesses to his Christian faith.

    “Obama is not a Muslim. He reminds me of every other liberal I’ve ever met in my life. That means he’s atheist/agnostic, but favors Islam over Christianity because he favors whatever is seen as Eastern/Brown as opposed to Western/White.”

    Keep in mind that Barack Hussein Obama not only carries his father’s name (abjuring “Barry,” which he was once called, for “Barack”), but he called his “autobiography” “Dreams from My Father” despite the fact that his father was out of his life after a couple of months and he had very little contact with him, being raised by his white mother and white grandparents. He didn’t become a Christian until he joined Rev. Wright’s church sometime in the late 80′s, by his own admission. Both his father and step-father were Muslims. So, for some reason, his father played a much greater role on Obama’s life than the facts would justify, and he has more reason to favor Islam over Christianity than what you suggest. There was also that incident when he was being interviewed by a prominent newsman and inadvertently referred to his Islamic faith only to be corrected by the newsman that he meant his Christian faith and Obama quickly said he meant to say his Christian faith. I have never made such a slip-up in my life, and I doubt anybody who was raised a Christian ever made such a verbal slip. (BTW I was raised a Christian, but have been a nonbeliever since I was 13 or 14, despite being dragged to church every Sunday until I graduated from high school and went away to college.) I don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theories that Obama is a “secret Muslim,” but the record is less clear than his most ardent supporters insist.

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  8. Wilkey says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    When Barry made his bizarre turn to Chicago in 1985, he had decided to become a professional black man. Not a black professional man, but a professional black-man. To do this, he needed to join a black church.

    If blacks were all Mormons, he would have joined a Mormon temple.

    The man has no religion. Imagine.

    “If blacks were all Mormons, he would have joined a Mormon temple.”

    Mormon temples are buildings where certain religious rites considered especially sacred are performed – marriages, endowments, baptisms for the dead, etc. A Mormon congregation is called a ward, and wards do not meet in temples. You do not “join” a Mormon temple. For that matter, you don’t really even join a ward – you join the Church and then you are assigned to a ward based on where you live.

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    Thank you for clearing that up, but I think my point was made.

    Though I am not a believer, I have attended Morman services as a guest of friends out West who are Mormons. I don't know what the buildings or the groups of people were called, but my friends were definitely Mormons, and they definitely met in buildings of some kind. So at least I know what the services are like. (They are like the meetings of every other religion.) Can I even call them services?

    Whatever!

    I've been to every kind of religous ritual I can think of, kind of like attending baseball games in the cities I happen to be in. Like Trump, I've even eaten "the little cracker" and drunk the "little cup of wine." Everybody has a different name for the same thing. The Jewish synagogues I've been in are the home of services that are very much like the Christian services I have seen, for example. So those rituals and lectures happen in a "synagogue" instead of a "church." And, the Mormons have "temples," but blah blah blah as you say...

    How about this: If blacks were all Scientologists, Barry would have joined the Church of Scientology. I don't know what they call their groups or their buildings, and I don't care.

    There.

    PS: Trump has just uploaded his position on Second Amendment rights. See his website:
    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/
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  9. countenance says: • Website

    Obama strikes me as basically secular, but will spout a gilded veneer sort of a mix of leftist black Christianity and non-fundamentalist Islam for political purposes.

    Since Trump is begging this whole discussion (ironically, by not saying anything), notice how quasi-religious Trump is getting.

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  10. Wilkey says:

    At this point is there really any reason left to doubt that Obama has zero respect for Christianity? He takes every opportunity to crticize Christianity for ancient sins while forgiving Islam for both current and past sins.

    SFAIK, since leaving the Reverend Wright’s “church” and becoming president he has yet to join any other religious congregation. If he hasn’t done so this late in his presidency, then he never will again.

    Speaking of which, when’s the last time Bill and Hillary and Chelsea attended church for anything other than political campaigning? After Bill was defeated for re-election for governor back in the late 70s, he and Hillary took up attending a big church in Little Rock which broadcast its meetings. They sat on the front row every Sunday, where everyone watching the church on the teevee could get a good glimpse of them.

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    "Speaking of which, when’s the last time Bill and Hillary and Chelsea attended church for anything other than political campaigning? After Bill was defeated for re-election for governor back in the late 70s, he and Hillary took up attending a big church in Little Rock which broadcast its meetings. They sat on the front row every Sunday, where everyone watching the church on the teevee could get a good glimpse of them."

    One thing you can say for Obama is that he is not as much of a phony as the Clintons are. Obama thinks, for political reasons, he needs to go to a church? He goes to St. Django's church of perpetual killin' all de white people. He doesn't want to go to church at all? He just doesn't go.

    Whereas, every single thing the Clinton's ever did was a phony photo-op. They focuss-grouped their summer vacation. They are complete frauds. Hillary recently protested that she is "a real woman". With respect, madame alien-robot-woman, you are not.
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  11. For the legions of people who hate him, it’s not enough for Obama to be a liar, a traitor and a murderer. He has to be also a *gasp* Muslim. The popular belief that Obama is a Muslim (and a Kenyan) is the crowning achievement of American willful ignorance.

    Obama has neither religion nor ideology. He is a talented, charming, amoral opportunist in the mold of Bill Clinton. He rose to the position of overseer of the Anglo/Zionist empire. Change charming to paranoid by the way and you have Dick Cheney. The empire is in steep decline such that Obama is probably the last American Emperor. The next chief executive will preside over ruins. We can only hope that Washington, in it’s dying desperation, will not bring on a nuclear winter. And here we sit, parsing the ridiculous proposition that Obama is a Muslim.

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  12. Chiron says:

    This was the most interesting part of your article Steve:

    “It’s hard to imagine Obama going terribly far in Chicago politics as a Muslimist. But since he was a black politician, Jewish liberal real-estate interests in Chicago such as the Pritzkers adopted him. They didn’t take his ambition to be mayor seriously; instead, they thought he should be president!”

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/po-obamaj.html

    Obama was made by the Chicago jewish elite to be POTUS, this was the deciding factor according to the jews themselves.

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    I've seen claims that Obama was plucked out of obscurity and hyped into the White House by people whose primary motivation was hostility to Hillary. She was apparently intensely hated by a small but influential section of the party. I don't know if this is still true.
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  13. Swampfox says:

    Obama’s grandmother was an active member in Unitarian Universalism. Probably no one in Obama’s family has been Christian since the Second Great Awakening, maybe even further back. It’s easy to see why Obama had to jettison Unitarianism if he wanted a career in politics — it’s way too white. The Mormon church is approximately %5 black. I imagine black people comprise an even smaller percentage of those who identify as Unitarian.

    If Trump really want to dig at Obama, he should call him a Unitarian. That would hurt O’s cred with blacks more than calling him a Muslim (not that Trump ever called him Muslim).

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  14. Big Bill says:

    Why does the left care so much whether Obama is or isn’t a Muslim? What are their rhetorical goals? Making a big deal about his “proper” religious status focuses attention on religion and makes religion a big deal, which is contrary to their ideology.

    Its like when they get upset at a homosexual being “outed”. Anger at “outing” reinforces the notion that homosexuality is a shameful secret.

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  15. @Anonymous
    How would you classify the Bushes and other Protestant Republicans like Cheney who seem to have very close ties to the Saudis?

    Traitors.

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  16. charlie says:

    There is a degree of truth here, although an a career path by going to HLS to had already moved far from diplomat career stage. Not sure what year that was.

    There are plenty of opportunities to be a “muslimist” after HLS but it isn’t going to be in the foreign service. And yes, I do think it was a turn away from the Reagan victory of 1985. Pretty clear after that election which way America was going for the next 20+ years.

    I wonder what his IQ would be measured at.

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  17. dearieme says:

    I suspect he’s an Onanist.

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    Private worship, or do you think he belongs to an Onanist circle?
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  18. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    He parked himself in the Christian parking lot but he shopped around for a brand of supposed Christianity that would tell him what he wanted to hear which was heavy on the white-bashing and overtly political. Alleged ‘churches’ like Wright’s are in practice just businesses with a made up ‘black liberation’ theology, a way of making a living whilst strutting around like the rooster of the barnyard. It paid off for him retiring as he did to a million dollar house in mostly white Tinley Park. Obama is obviously favorable towards Islam and sees them as the noble underdog struggling against the white world even though his job forces him to engage in warfare against the more troublesome elements of it. That’s not necessarily a contradiction; all our presidents have been of various Christian denominations yet have waged wars against others of similar religion without batting an eye. He’s everything and nothing.

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  19. bunga says:

    Obama had alot of connection with Islam: throuhj father,through the upbringing by muslim step dad and later through Pakistani friends and one can include the Cairo Speech.

    In between he had a lot exposure to Imperial Christian connection through business ,diplomatic and cultural environment in iNdonesia which was buisness and cultural colony of America during Suharto area . it is still. But outside that early childhood period ,his exposure was mostly to the dark reality that to succeed in life in US ,you have to imbibe certain doctrines and beliefs that are far removed form Islam but closely related to American Christianity. He whether beleives in any of these are irrelevant . He is cut of the same psychological cloth that covers the facade of the belief system of any average run of mill politicians .

    BTW ,the true Christian unalloyed macho evanglcial President we got was Bush .Never travelled ,Nver got expsoed to any cultural nuances.Possibly never knew the State Deoartmnet job is to foster understanding through intercation and being the interlocutor abroad for America and for foreign countries at home to reach the ebst non ilitary solution of the conflcits . He also possibly never read a book that he revers or learns anything from outside Bible story. He always mixed with white chickens ( but cant handle Dixie Chick ) of one type . Well he possibly got exposed to some Christian ocuntries through huis father.

    He was the best Chrsitainist President America ever had in decades. Hey! He evn tried to convert the rest of the world through GOG and MAGOG and the FINAL BATTLE.
    Some are still following him – HUcabee,Graham,Perry, Plain,and Carlson.

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  20. @Hepp
    Obama is not a Muslim. He reminds me of every other liberal I've ever met in my life. That means he's atheist/agnostic, but favors Islam over Christianity because he favors whatever is seen as Eastern/Brown as opposed to Western/White.

    It's absolutely bizarre, but expected, to watch the media demand that Republicans serve as witnesses to his Christian faith.

    Obama is not a Muslim. He reminds me of every other liberal I’ve ever met in my life. That means he’s atheist/agnostic, but favors Islam over Christianity because he favors whatever is seen as Eastern/Brown as opposed to Western/White.

    It’s absolutely bizarre, but expected, to watch the media demand that Republicans serve as witnesses to his Christian faith.

    This is correct.

    In Obama’s autobiography, he really makes it clear that he is not in any way a believing Christian. He was passionate about Jeremiah Wright’s church as a black nationalist political movement, not out of some Christian faith. I’m sure he isn’t seriously Muslim in the religious sense, but he does side with Muslim in the non-whites vs white sense.

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  21. I think Ann Coulter has it right: Obama’s really a left-wing atheist who sympathizes with third world Muslims, precisely because Muslims are part of the the third world.

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  22. Realist says:

    I light of the current ‘Tempest in a Teapot’ over Carson’s Muslim comment.

    How many Jews would support a Muslim Prime Minister of Israel????

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    How many Jews would support a Muslim President of the United States? I really don't think it would go over well with the big machas.
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  23. Mr. Anon says:
    @Wilkey
    At this point is there really any reason left to doubt that Obama has zero respect for Christianity? He takes every opportunity to crticize Christianity for ancient sins while forgiving Islam for both current and past sins.

    SFAIK, since leaving the Reverend Wright's "church" and becoming president he has yet to join any other religious congregation. If he hasn't done so this late in his presidency, then he never will again.

    Speaking of which, when's the last time Bill and Hillary and Chelsea attended church for anything other than political campaigning? After Bill was defeated for re-election for governor back in the late 70s, he and Hillary took up attending a big church in Little Rock which broadcast its meetings. They sat on the front row every Sunday, where everyone watching the church on the teevee could get a good glimpse of them.

    “Speaking of which, when’s the last time Bill and Hillary and Chelsea attended church for anything other than political campaigning? After Bill was defeated for re-election for governor back in the late 70s, he and Hillary took up attending a big church in Little Rock which broadcast its meetings. They sat on the front row every Sunday, where everyone watching the church on the teevee could get a good glimpse of them.”

    One thing you can say for Obama is that he is not as much of a phony as the Clintons are. Obama thinks, for political reasons, he needs to go to a church? He goes to St. Django’s church of perpetual killin’ all de white people. He doesn’t want to go to church at all? He just doesn’t go.

    Whereas, every single thing the Clinton’s ever did was a phony photo-op. They focuss-grouped their summer vacation. They are complete frauds. Hillary recently protested that she is “a real woman”. With respect, madame alien-robot-woman, you are not.

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  24. Not to dispute any of Sailer’s conclusions about Obama, but the “intermediary niche” would never have satisfied the narcissist in him. He needed far more attention. I believe he was suited far more neatly for an anchorman destiny. Smooth, unctuous, blank, impressive, attractive, devoid of creativity or i intellectual depth, stuck forever at 115, comfortable with bromide, he surely would have found his way into TV, which prizes those attributes, and would by this point in his career be Lester Holt. Lucky for Lester fate took him elsewhere, unlucky for us.

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  25. unit472 says:

    Let’s not forget the world of the Muslimist had become seriously dangerous by the 1980′s. The seizure of the US Embassy in Tehran was bad enough but when the CIA’s Lebanon station chief, William Buckley, was kidnapped in March, 1984 the videos Hezbollah made of his torture and the inability of the US government to gain his release made it plain working in the Muslim world was a life threatening occupation!

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  26. anowow says:

    When Obama was running and looking to win the general election, I was at a dinner party with Turkish expats. They made mild jokes about the Gates of Vienna. It was pretty clear what they thought Obama was. That’s not to say they thought Obama was pious or even a believer or really cared what his own personal statements were.

    What a lot of naively provincial, smugly self-righteous centrist and leftist Americans don’t think about (among many things) is how the rest of the world views Obama.

    Some of this isn’t just current leftist pc piety, it’s also American, and more broadly Western, individualism as manifested in religious identity. We are so focused on our own individual spiritual identity (spritualist self help, walk with Jesus, whatever) we forget that religion is still a communal, inherited identity in many parts of the world.

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  27. tbraton says:

    “The former were typically sons of Protestant missionaries born or raised in China, such as Owen Lattimore, John Paton Davies, Jr., and John S. Service. The left-leaning diplomatic, academic, and journalistic China Hands clashed with the right-leaning China Lobby in the 1940s and 1950s over whether American should back Mao Tse-tung or Chiang Kai-shek.”

    I am a little surprised that you failed to mention “the most influential private citizen of America in his day,” Henry Luce, who was born and raised in China to Presbyterian missionaries but went on to create Time magazine and later Fortune and Life and other publications and who dubbed the 20th century “the American Century.” He was also a major force behind the “China Lobby” and a strong supporter of Chiang Kai-shek and a major player in the Republican Party. Also a close friend of Joe Kennedy and a promoter of Joe’s son John F., who went on to achieve a degree of fame well beyond his actual accomplishments.

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    "Went on to achieve a degree of fame well beyond his actual accomplishments" (of JFK). That's a provocation I suppose but well designed to provoke thought. Who else? Well Jesus would have to be No.1....
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  28. george says:

    Actually I think you wrote about the Subud “spiritual movement”. Subus is basically Muslim, but accepts adherents of any religion. Thinking about it, Subud sounds a a lot like a Muslim version of the old Free Masons, who accepted any monotheist. Masons were unique in their acceptance of non protestants such as Jews, Deists, and I think Universalists (not sure on all Universalists). I believe Catholics are not permitted by the Catholic church to join the Free Masons.

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  29. I sense that Obama’s philosophy is most aligned with secular Judaism.

    That’s because Obama is a national victim cult freak and a crony capitalist and his rise to power was financed by secular Jews.

    American victim cult freaks like Obama are usually atheist/agnostic or they venerate a victim cult pseudo-religion, specifically secular Judaism.

    Obama’s sympathy for Islam is due to the inclusion of Muslims in the American national victim cult. Diversity freaks teach that Muslims are oppressed by Christians.

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    The Victim Culture's jugular is that its disciples aren't sympathetic. They don't really care, and they know it.
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  30. carol says:

    My mother’s family were part of that Protestant China lobby, that thought they knew so much about the real China, and that everyone else was an ignoramus. But as it turned out, their views were just as skewed and sentimental as everyone else’s. This despite mastering the language, and teaching so many Chinese, and of course having Chinese servants.

    Mao was right to run them out..they should have stayed home anyway, and looked to their own.

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  31. Art says:

    Obama identified himself with the US Muslim boy with the clock – no matter what he is today, given his upbringing, given his history — at heart he is a Muslim boy – end of story.

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  32. Buzz Mohawk says: • Website
    @Wilkey
    "If blacks were all Mormons, he would have joined a Mormon temple."

    Mormon temples are buildings where certain religious rites considered especially sacred are performed - marriages, endowments, baptisms for the dead, etc. A Mormon congregation is called a ward, and wards do not meet in temples. You do not "join" a Mormon temple. For that matter, you don't really even join a ward - you join the Church and then you are assigned to a ward based on where you live.

    Thank you for clearing that up, but I think my point was made.

    Though I am not a believer, I have attended Morman services as a guest of friends out West who are Mormons. I don’t know what the buildings or the groups of people were called, but my friends were definitely Mormons, and they definitely met in buildings of some kind. So at least I know what the services are like. (They are like the meetings of every other religion.) Can I even call them services?

    Whatever!

    I’ve been to every kind of religous ritual I can think of, kind of like attending baseball games in the cities I happen to be in. Like Trump, I’ve even eaten “the little cracker” and drunk the “little cup of wine.” Everybody has a different name for the same thing. The Jewish synagogues I’ve been in are the home of services that are very much like the Christian services I have seen, for example. So those rituals and lectures happen in a “synagogue” instead of a “church.” And, the Mormons have “temples,” but blah blah blah as you say…

    How about this: If blacks were all Scientologists, Barry would have joined the Church of Scientology. I don’t know what they call their groups or their buildings, and I don’t care.

    There.

    PS: Trump has just uploaded his position on Second Amendment rights. See his website:

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

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    "Thank you for clearing that up, but I think my point was made."

    Oh, I agree with your point completely.
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  33. @Chiron
    This was the most interesting part of your article Steve:

    "It’s hard to imagine Obama going terribly far in Chicago politics as a Muslimist. But since he was a black politician, Jewish liberal real-estate interests in Chicago such as the Pritzkers adopted him. They didn’t take his ambition to be mayor seriously; instead, they thought he should be president!"

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/po-obamaj.html

    Obama was made by the Chicago jewish elite to be POTUS, this was the deciding factor according to the jews themselves.

    I’ve seen claims that Obama was plucked out of obscurity and hyped into the White House by people whose primary motivation was hostility to Hillary. She was apparently intensely hated by a small but influential section of the party. I don’t know if this is still true.

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  34. Wilkey says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Thank you for clearing that up, but I think my point was made.

    Though I am not a believer, I have attended Morman services as a guest of friends out West who are Mormons. I don't know what the buildings or the groups of people were called, but my friends were definitely Mormons, and they definitely met in buildings of some kind. So at least I know what the services are like. (They are like the meetings of every other religion.) Can I even call them services?

    Whatever!

    I've been to every kind of religous ritual I can think of, kind of like attending baseball games in the cities I happen to be in. Like Trump, I've even eaten "the little cracker" and drunk the "little cup of wine." Everybody has a different name for the same thing. The Jewish synagogues I've been in are the home of services that are very much like the Christian services I have seen, for example. So those rituals and lectures happen in a "synagogue" instead of a "church." And, the Mormons have "temples," but blah blah blah as you say...

    How about this: If blacks were all Scientologists, Barry would have joined the Church of Scientology. I don't know what they call their groups or their buildings, and I don't care.

    There.

    PS: Trump has just uploaded his position on Second Amendment rights. See his website:
    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

    “Thank you for clearing that up, but I think my point was made.”

    Oh, I agree with your point completely.

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  35. @Jefferson
    Lindsey Graham is extremely offended at Ben Carson's comment that he would never want to see a Muslim become president of The United States.

    Lindsey Graham is such a politically correct social justice warrior, no wonder he polls well below 1 percent among Republican primary voters.

    The other day Lindsey Graham was bashing Donald Trump for not defending the honor of Hussein Obama. Yeah defending Hussein is really going to help his popularity rise among Republican primary voters.

    Lindsey Graham is polling so low in the polls that he does not even pretend to be a fake conservative anymore. He is showing his true Social Justice Warrior colors because he knows the chances of him winning the Republican nomination is the day hell turns into a ski-resort. He does not care about pissing off the conservative base because they are not going to vote for him anyways.

    Since they are not voting for him, he is basically giving them the middle finger.

    But can anyone explain why he is running? Is he being funded to pull primary votes from someone else? If so, he’s not accomplishing much. There’s a theory that some of these candidates are in the race just to split up all the non-Jeb! votes so Jeb! can get by with a small plurality. Trump really mucked up that plan.

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    "But can anyone explain why he is running? Is he being funded to pull primary votes from someone else? If so, he’s not accomplishing much. There’s a theory that some of these candidates are in the race just to split up all the non-Jeb! votes so Jeb! can get by with a small plurality. Trump really mucked up that plan."

    The question I have is how the hell has Lindsey Graham not run out of campaigning money yet and not dropped out of the race? Who is the multi-millionaire/billionaire that is retarded enough to still pour so much money into that loser's campaign who does not even register 1 percent in the polls. Pouring money into Lindsey Graham's presidential campaign is like setting money on fire or throwing money into the Bermuda Triangle. There is pretty much a zero percent chance of getting a return on their investment.

    There is a higher chance of Haiti electing a White man for president than there is of Lindsey Graham winning the Republican nomination, LOL.

    , @Realist
    I think if Jeb is the nominee the Democrats will win.
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  36. Merema says:

    Obama is very familiar to me he could easily have been my brother-we are both from East Africa, have lived internationally, have a bi-religious background, went to college in the 80s in NY, loved the Sandanists , marched to free Mandela…into Bob Marley, spike lee movies. He even lived in my neighborhood in Harlem around Columbia University almost around the same time I did.

    No he is not a Muslimist, what he was is a leftist “third worldist”. He was not yet comfortable being a Black Man yet, or had not yet decided to be one, and if you are not a black nationalist in those days, you became a” third worldist” or a “brownist” against western “neocolonialism”. That is why he hanged out with brown people who happen to be Muslim because well most brown people are Muslim. Come to think of it, I think before he turned Black, he probably tried to be Brown-but that gets you nowhere in America politically.

    So he went Black, and he never went back.

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    A repentant SJW: So ... I guess you are telling us that Obama is "anti-White" in politics and culture in reaction to the White Europeans imposing "civilization" on the rest of the world starting in the 16th Century. Given the evidence since Obama was elected President, I would agree with that. BTW: I voted for Obama for President twice and, for his first run for the office, I supported his candidacy with a financial contribution. I wanted change and social justice but my judgement was obviously impaired. It's sad that it has come to this, but from now on I'm voting ethnic. I'm tired of the "smoke and mirrors" and the worldwide vendetta against Christianity and Western Civilization. As the chimera of "diversity" dissipates. it may unfortunately digress into racial and cultural war. If it does, let the Crusades begin!
    , @Reg Cæsar

    That is why he hanged out with brown people…
     
    He was in a lynch mob? Interesting concept. More racial confusion?

    I've mentioned it a few times when "hung" should have been "hanged", but this is the first time I've seen "hanged" used for "hung".
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  37. @Realist
    I light of the current 'Tempest in a Teapot' over Carson's Muslim comment.

    How many Jews would support a Muslim Prime Minister of Israel????

    How many Jews would support a Muslim President of the United States? I really don’t think it would go over well with the big machas.

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    "How many Jews would support a Muslim President of the United States? I really don’t think it would go over well with the big machas."

    Sarah Silverman would welcome a Muslim U.S president with open arms because she is SWPL on steroids, but Bill Maher would have nightmares at just the thought of a U.S president who is Muslim.
    , @Realist
    I am sure you're right.
    , @kaganovitch
    " big machas" Oy! it's "big machers" not machas. We may vote like Puerto Ricans in Peter Berger's formulation but we don't speak yiddish like them.
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  38. Jefferson says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    But can anyone explain why he is running? Is he being funded to pull primary votes from someone else? If so, he's not accomplishing much. There's a theory that some of these candidates are in the race just to split up all the non-Jeb! votes so Jeb! can get by with a small plurality. Trump really mucked up that plan.

    “But can anyone explain why he is running? Is he being funded to pull primary votes from someone else? If so, he’s not accomplishing much. There’s a theory that some of these candidates are in the race just to split up all the non-Jeb! votes so Jeb! can get by with a small plurality. Trump really mucked up that plan.”

    The question I have is how the hell has Lindsey Graham not run out of campaigning money yet and not dropped out of the race? Who is the multi-millionaire/billionaire that is retarded enough to still pour so much money into that loser’s campaign who does not even register 1 percent in the polls. Pouring money into Lindsey Graham’s presidential campaign is like setting money on fire or throwing money into the Bermuda Triangle. There is pretty much a zero percent chance of getting a return on their investment.

    There is a higher chance of Haiti electing a White man for president than there is of Lindsey Graham winning the Republican nomination, LOL.

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  39. Jefferson says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    How many Jews would support a Muslim President of the United States? I really don't think it would go over well with the big machas.

    “How many Jews would support a Muslim President of the United States? I really don’t think it would go over well with the big machas.”

    Sarah Silverman would welcome a Muslim U.S president with open arms because she is SWPL on steroids, but Bill Maher would have nightmares at just the thought of a U.S president who is Muslim.

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  40. JayMan says: • Website

    It’s worth pointing out that Peter Hatemi’s massive extended twin study (which included not just twins but other relatives, like parents, other siblings, cousins, grandparents, etc.) found that neither family environment nor social setting have any effect on one’s political alignment.

    There’s a nice chart here that sums it all up:

    The Son Becomes the Father

    Obama’s views are all his own.

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    Thanks. I haven't followed the links but I find "Obama's views are all his own" links nicely with my thought that those who become President of the US are most likely to have the religion of pre Constantine Roman Emperors. That thought was recently voiced in respect of Australia's dynamic new PM, now a Catholic (like his wife and some of the conservatives whose votes he needed at a critical point in his political career) but a Presbyterian when, as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, he persuaded a Church of England clergyman to marry them as part of his duty "to reduce fornication in his parish".
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  41. Realist says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    How many Jews would support a Muslim President of the United States? I really don't think it would go over well with the big machas.

    I am sure you’re right.

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  42. Realist says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    But can anyone explain why he is running? Is he being funded to pull primary votes from someone else? If so, he's not accomplishing much. There's a theory that some of these candidates are in the race just to split up all the non-Jeb! votes so Jeb! can get by with a small plurality. Trump really mucked up that plan.

    I think if Jeb is the nominee the Democrats will win.

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  43. Alvin says:

    Serious question, what if he is, why does it matter? Shouldn’t he be judged on his leadership abilities, policy positions, negotiating skills, and other RELEVANT qualifications for a POTUS?

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  44. @Harry Baldwin
    How many Jews would support a Muslim President of the United States? I really don't think it would go over well with the big machas.

    ” big machas” Oy! it’s “big machers” not machas. We may vote like Puerto Ricans in Peter Berger’s formulation but we don’t speak yiddish like them.

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    I'm a poser, I only married Jewish. But I typed "macha" into Google and it didn't correct me.
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  45. Harold says:
    @dearieme
    I suspect he's an Onanist.

    Private worship, or do you think he belongs to an Onanist circle?

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  46. @Joe Franklin
    I sense that Obama's philosophy is most aligned with secular Judaism.

    That's because Obama is a national victim cult freak and a crony capitalist and his rise to power was financed by secular Jews.

    American victim cult freaks like Obama are usually atheist/agnostic or they venerate a victim cult pseudo-religion, specifically secular Judaism.

    Obama's sympathy for Islam is due to the inclusion of Muslims in the American national victim cult. Diversity freaks teach that Muslims are oppressed by Christians.

    The Victim Culture’s jugular is that its disciples aren’t sympathetic. They don’t really care, and they know it.

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  47. @kaganovitch
    " big machas" Oy! it's "big machers" not machas. We may vote like Puerto Ricans in Peter Berger's formulation but we don't speak yiddish like them.

    I’m a poser, I only married Jewish. But I typed “macha” into Google and it didn’t correct me.

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    Nu, what does Sergey Brin know from yiddish anyway?
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  48. @Harry Baldwin
    I'm a poser, I only married Jewish. But I typed "macha" into Google and it didn't correct me.

    Nu, what does Sergey Brin know from yiddish anyway?

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  49. Truth says:

    One Abrahamic, sap-tax collection system or another?

    Who gives a shit.

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  50. If I did not know better, I would believe that BHO was being raised to be the new Chaliff. Then he ditched it all to become a professional black person. He may revive the idea of becoming the Chaliff after he leaves office. Everything he has done as president is to help the Moslems.

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  51. @tbraton
    "The former were typically sons of Protestant missionaries born or raised in China, such as Owen Lattimore, John Paton Davies, Jr., and John S. Service. The left-leaning diplomatic, academic, and journalistic China Hands clashed with the right-leaning China Lobby in the 1940s and 1950s over whether American should back Mao Tse-tung or Chiang Kai-shek."

    I am a little surprised that you failed to mention "the most influential private citizen of America in his day," Henry Luce, who was born and raised in China to Presbyterian missionaries but went on to create Time magazine and later Fortune and Life and other publications and who dubbed the 20th century "the American Century." He was also a major force behind the "China Lobby" and a strong supporter of Chiang Kai-shek and a major player in the Republican Party. Also a close friend of Joe Kennedy and a promoter of Joe's son John F., who went on to achieve a degree of fame well beyond his actual accomplishments.

    “Went on to achieve a degree of fame well beyond his actual accomplishments” (of JFK). That’s a provocation I suppose but well designed to provoke thought. Who else? Well Jesus would have to be No.1….

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  52. @JayMan
    It's worth pointing out that Peter Hatemi's massive extended twin study (which included not just twins but other relatives, like parents, other siblings, cousins, grandparents, etc.) found that neither family environment nor social setting have any effect on one's political alignment.

    There's a nice chart here that sums it all up:

    The Son Becomes the Father

    Obama's views are all his own.

    Thanks. I haven’t followed the links but I find “Obama’s views are all his own” links nicely with my thought that those who become President of the US are most likely to have the religion of pre Constantine Roman Emperors. That thought was recently voiced in respect of Australia’s dynamic new PM, now a Catholic (like his wife and some of the conservatives whose votes he needed at a critical point in his political career) but a Presbyterian when, as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, he persuaded a Church of England clergyman to marry them as part of his duty “to reduce fornication in his parish”.

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  53. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Merema
    Obama is very familiar to me he could easily have been my brother-we are both from East Africa, have lived internationally, have a bi-religious background, went to college in the 80s in NY, loved the Sandanists , marched to free Mandela...into Bob Marley, spike lee movies. He even lived in my neighborhood in Harlem around Columbia University almost around the same time I did.

    No he is not a Muslimist, what he was is a leftist "third worldist". He was not yet comfortable being a Black Man yet, or had not yet decided to be one, and if you are not a black nationalist in those days, you became a" third worldist" or a "brownist" against western "neocolonialism". That is why he hanged out with brown people who happen to be Muslim because well most brown people are Muslim. Come to think of it, I think before he turned Black, he probably tried to be Brown-but that gets you nowhere in America politically.

    So he went Black, and he never went back.

    A repentant SJW: So … I guess you are telling us that Obama is “anti-White” in politics and culture in reaction to the White Europeans imposing “civilization” on the rest of the world starting in the 16th Century. Given the evidence since Obama was elected President, I would agree with that. BTW: I voted for Obama for President twice and, for his first run for the office, I supported his candidacy with a financial contribution. I wanted change and social justice but my judgement was obviously impaired. It’s sad that it has come to this, but from now on I’m voting ethnic. I’m tired of the “smoke and mirrors” and the worldwide vendetta against Christianity and Western Civilization. As the chimera of “diversity” dissipates. it may unfortunately digress into racial and cultural war. If it does, let the Crusades begin!

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  54. Svigor says:

    But can anyone explain why he is running? Is he being funded to pull primary votes from someone else? If so, he’s not accomplishing much. There’s a theory that some of these candidates are in the race just to split up all the non-Jeb! votes so Jeb! can get by with a small plurality. Trump really mucked up that plan.

    Any speculation about Trump’s sub rosa motives must be weighed against the consequences of his campaign so far. Trump has already done more damage to the open borders lobby than any other American politician in generations.

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  55. @WowJustWow
    Jeb converted to Catholicism as part of his transmexicanization.

    Jeb converted to Catholicism as part of his transmexicanization.

    It’s not complete until you’re a full-fledged anticlerical iconoclast. Mexico’s élite is about as Catholic as France’s.

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  56. @Merema
    Obama is very familiar to me he could easily have been my brother-we are both from East Africa, have lived internationally, have a bi-religious background, went to college in the 80s in NY, loved the Sandanists , marched to free Mandela...into Bob Marley, spike lee movies. He even lived in my neighborhood in Harlem around Columbia University almost around the same time I did.

    No he is not a Muslimist, what he was is a leftist "third worldist". He was not yet comfortable being a Black Man yet, or had not yet decided to be one, and if you are not a black nationalist in those days, you became a" third worldist" or a "brownist" against western "neocolonialism". That is why he hanged out with brown people who happen to be Muslim because well most brown people are Muslim. Come to think of it, I think before he turned Black, he probably tried to be Brown-but that gets you nowhere in America politically.

    So he went Black, and he never went back.

    That is why he hanged out with brown people…

    He was in a lynch mob? Interesting concept. More racial confusion?

    I’ve mentioned it a few times when “hung” should have been “hanged”, but this is the first time I’ve seen “hanged” used for “hung”.

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    "I’ve mentioned it a few times when “hung” should have been “hanged”, but this is the first time I’ve seen “hanged” used for “hung”."

    You probably never thought when you first started posting on Sailer's blog that you would get so hung up with grammatical issues, did you?
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  57. tbraton says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That is why he hanged out with brown people…
     
    He was in a lynch mob? Interesting concept. More racial confusion?

    I've mentioned it a few times when "hung" should have been "hanged", but this is the first time I've seen "hanged" used for "hung".

    “I’ve mentioned it a few times when “hung” should have been “hanged”, but this is the first time I’ve seen “hanged” used for “hung”.”

    You probably never thought when you first started posting on Sailer’s blog that you would get so hung up with grammatical issues, did you?

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  58. Andrew says:

    As I recall, the catechism asks this question:

    “Q. Who is a Christian?”
    “A. One who is baptized.”

    So, if Obama, who was raised a Muslim, has become a Christian, it would need to be established when he was baptized and by whom.

    Otherwise he is not a Christian, despite all manner of protestation over the past 8 years on this topic.

    Its amazing that to such a simple question, there is no readily available answer.

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    I thought the President was baptized by Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
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  59. @Andrew
    As I recall, the catechism asks this question:

    "Q. Who is a Christian?"
    "A. One who is baptized."

    So, if Obama, who was raised a Muslim, has become a Christian, it would need to be established when he was baptized and by whom.

    Otherwise he is not a Christian, despite all manner of protestation over the past 8 years on this topic.

    Its amazing that to such a simple question, there is no readily available answer.

    I thought the President was baptized by Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

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