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Jermaine Himmelstein

https://youtu.be/A_pEfv0dExI?t=2m03s

Update: Here’s overhead camera video from WABC-TV of the Hug Thug punching a girl in the face in Times Square earlier this week.

Pretty sickening:

http://abc7ny.com/news/watch-camera-captures-free-hugs-guy-punch-in-times-square/1337096/

I live 3000 miles away, but even I have been hearing for years, both from the media and through the grapevine when I visited New York a few years ago, about this psycho, who turns out to be named Jermaine (a.k.a., Jeremy) Himmelstein, who goes to tourist destinations like Times Square and Washington Square, holds up a “Free Hugs” sign, and then often slugs girls in the face if they say no or won’t give him money.

For example, the New York Times ran one of its classic upside down articles about this dangerous loon back in 2013. As I’ve pointed out before, the NYT often write its articles in the reverse order of relevance, saving what’s interesting and important only for those who stick it out through the soporific opening paragraphs. I think the idea is to not disturb the worldviews of the Nice People who subscribe to the Times, while allowing its reporters to eventually do what they want to do: report the news to the hard core of readers who are actually interested in news rather than in just having their self-image buffed. For example:

The Hugs Are Free, as Advertised, but Not Always Welcome
By MICHAEL WILSON APRIL 26, 2013

The sign is simple, eight big letters on a piece of cardboard, but when Jermaine Himmelstein takes it outside and holds it over his head and smiles, it acts like a strong magnet.

Total strangers smile back, and walk over and wrap the skinny young man in a quick embrace. Then they walk away, and someone else, drawn by the smile and the eight letters, steps up, arms outstretched.

The sign reads, “Free Hugs.” Mr. Himmelstein, 21, has been carrying it to Washington Square Park in Greenwich Village for months.

“I give out free hugs,” he explained, “to make people stay better.” When somebody wants a picture of a hug in progress, he asks for a dollar in return, shoving the bills into a back pocket.

Viewed this way, one fleeting hug at a time, the enterprise seems harmless enough, even charming, and Mr. Himmelstein seems a welcome addition to New York City’s cast of colorful characters.

Okay, the Nice People have probably stopped reading the article by now and so the poor reporter can finally move on to reporting the actual news, which is that there’s a maniac loose on the streets of Manhattan who punches female passer-bys and nobody in authority is willing to do what it takes to get him off the streets:

But closer inspection darkens that portrait.

Mr. Himmelstein can become glowering and intense in an instant. His playful banter turns badgering when he is told no, as he was after approaching a group of New York University students on a bench on Wednesday afternoon.

“I’m a germaphobe,” a freshman named Claudia, 18, told Mr. Himmelstein as a way to get rid of him.

But he kept coming back and offering hugs, over and over. She said out of his earshot: “I don’t like him. He’s aggressive.”

Another student, Estelle, 22, said complaints about Mr. Himmelstein were not uncommon. “He’s like a legend at our school,” she said.

His parents, Denise and Tyrone Himmelstein, both 49, live in the Jefferson Houses in East Harlem, and until recently had no idea that this was what Jermaine did when he left the house. They thought he was with friends. Not becoming a creepy legend.

“This is not what I wanted for my son,” Ms. Himmelstein said on Thursday. “We don’t condone this.”

Jermaine, like their older son, is autistic, she said. He graduated from Washington Irving High School last June at age 20, and she proudly displayed his diploma for a visitor this week while Jermaine was out.

He is a good young man when he’s home, she said, and he does not want for money or affection.

“Jermaine comes from a home where we give him hugs,” she said. …

Jermaine Himmelstein keeps a rigid schedule, and is always home by 8:30 p.m., so his parents worried when, on April 9, the hour came and went with no word.

Shortly before 3 p.m. that day, a female student from N.Y.U. entered the park, and Mr. Himmelstein approached with his sign.

“She says, ‘I have a boyfriend,’ and this and that,” Mr. Himmelstein recalled in the park this week. “Thinking I’m desperate, having no friends,” he became upset, he said.

“I went and got a can out of the trash and filled it with water and I marched right back to her and threw it right in her face until her face was swollen,” he said. “Then I got a cup of ice coffee and I threw it at her.”

The can hurt the woman’s cheek, the police said, and Mr. Himmelstein was arrested and charged with assault.

“I’m a little bit disappointed in me,” he said this week, and tried explaining what had set him off. “ ‘No, thanks,’ is the better thing. I don’t like just ‘No.’ ” …

Now, that was in the New York Times three years ago, yet this guy stayed on the streets, punching girls. From the New York Daily News yesterday:

Times Square ‘Hug Guy’ punches Canadian tourist, 22, because she didn’t give him a tip

BY EDGAR SANDOVAL GRAHAM RAYMAN THOMAS TRACY
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Friday, May 13, 2016, 9:34 AM

He usually charges about $5 for hugs, but the punches are apparently free!

A 24-year-old wacko who offers hugs for tips in Times Square clocked a 22-year-old Canadian tourist when she refused to give him any cash on Thursday, officials said.

“Free Hugs Guy” Jermaine Himmelstein socked the woman in the right eye following an 11 a.m. clash outside the T-Mobile store on Broadway near W. 45th St.

The young woman and a friend were walking through Times Square when Himmelstein approached, holding a sign reading “FREE HUGS.”

Himmelstein embraced one of the women and took a photo, but began throwing fists when they wouldn’t fork over any loot, cops said. He punched his victim, identified by police sources as Sophie Violene Dauvois, and ran off down Seventh Ave.

Dauvois suffered a swollen and bloody black eye and was taken to St. Luke’s Roosevelt Hospital for treatment.

Himmelstein disappeared into Times Square, but was located and arrested about four hours later, charged with robbery and assault. He was grabbed by a sharp-eyed NYPD recruit who was in uniform and armed with the perp’s photograph, police sources said. …

The hug thug began showing off his love of embraces in 2013 when he began offering quick squeezes for a dollar in Washington Square Park and Greenwich Village, according to a New York Times profile of Himmelstein.

On an average day, he makes up to $30 an hour.

He sounds pretty rational to me.

NYPD Chief of Department James O’Neill said Himmelstein “is no stranger” to the department. He’s been arrested 16 times since 2012.

Okay … but nobody can stop him for long from slugging young women on the streets of Manhattan?

He was busted for tossing a can of soda at a woman who refused to hug him in Washington Square Park in 2013. The can bruised her face. He was also accused of punching a woman in the face on the Coney Island boardwalk last year.

The New York Post today reveals Himmelstein has now confessed to punching another young woman late last month, but was allowed to remain on the streets, despite the victim’s complaint to the authorities, until he did it again yesterday. From the New York Post today:

‘Free hugs’ panhandler admits to previous punching attack

By Rebecca Rosenberg May 13, 2016 | 2:57pm

A “free hug” panhandler who punched a female tourist Thursday after she refused to tip him admitted to cops that he had socked another woman in a subway station last month after she declined an embrace, court papers show.

Jermaine Himmelstein, 24, was standing near the entrance of the 49th Street N/R station April 29 wearing a “free hug” sign when the woman rushed passed him and into the station.

“You will respect me when I knock you out,” barked Himmelstein as he struck her in the face causing “substantial pain and a bump to her head,” the complaint states.

“I offered a hug to the girl, she said no and walked away,” the “free hug” thug confessed to cops after they picked him up on the later May 12 assault.

“I observed the girl going down into the subway system, and I hid my cardboard sign behind a pole. I followed the girl into the subway system, sucker punched her, and then I jumped over the turnstile and ran away.”

He was arraigned Friday on both cases in Manhattan Criminal Court and is being held on $5,000 bail. He faces raps for assault, fraudulent accosting and harassment.

Or will he be released to do it again like the last 15 times?

The NY Daily News adds a crucial detail about his slugging the young woman in April:

Himmelstein’s victim reported the attack, but the Manhattan man wasn’t arrested for last month’s attack until he punched Sophie Violene Dauvois on Thursday.

This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women. And who in authority should be held accountable for not dealing with this guy’s extremely conspicuous reign of terror?

Update: Here’s a video shot in Times Square in October 2013, a half year after the NYT article about Himmelstein, starting immediately after a Bloomberg Era cop ripped up the sign of the Hug Thug (in grey), and then a social justice warrior (in black) interceded on his behalf:

Update: Putin’s Russia Today plays it as a sob story about cruel budget cuts:

Jermaine Himmelstein is well known in the Big Apple as the “Free Hugs Guy,” and because of the low level of financial support given to Americans struggling with mental health issues, he relies on tips in exchange for photographs to survive.

 
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  1. Hugs probably hasn’t been stopped because superficially he’s a triple counter: black, Jewish, and autistic. Realistically he should be incarcerated, or his parents should be held accountable for his conduct (i.e., keeping him at home.)

    It shouldn’t have been allowed to get to this point, but I am pretty sure that if nothing is done someone is going to get seriously hurt, and not necessarily some lass refusing his embrace.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Hugs probably hasn’t been stopped because superficially he’s a triple counter: black, Jewish, and autistic."

    And the most important thing here is that he is autistic. To what degree the article does not say.
    Clearly he is not normal.

    "Realistically he should be incarcerated, or his parents should be held accountable for his conduct (i.e., keeping him at home.)"

    Actually, he has every legal right to be on a street and hold a sign. Unfortunately, only until he commits a crime is he able to be incarcerated. To complicate matters, he is viewed as an adult when it comes to mental illness laws, and therefore has the liberty to accept or reject treatment. If and when he is arrested, a judge could order a competency hearing to determine to what extent is he a danger to himself and others, and order, based on his findings, mandatory counseling.
    , @TB2
    And because his victims are almost certainly white and other non-blacks. He's a manifestation of the system's white-hating racism. Deal with the system not the symptoms. How long would he have lasted 75 years ago? He's also YET ANOTHER refreshing counterbalance to liberal nonsense about how de po' black man, he be shuffle into prison at the drop of de hat, for no reason 'cept racmism 'n she-e-et!
  2. Sue the parents, it will stop.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Sue the parents, it will stop.
     
    I fail to see how his parents are liable for this adult man's behavior, or how that would be a just outcome, even if they were. The solution is for this man to be sent to the New York state penitentiary, not to steal money from his innocent parents.
  3. And who in authority should be held accountable for not dealing with this guy’s extremely conspicuous reign of terror?

    Well, Mayor de Blasio comes to mind…

  4. Himmelstein?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Himmelstein? Maybe he's adopted and his birth name is Jermaine Wilhelm. That would explain a lot.
    , @schmenz
    He's from the Deep South of Israel.
  5. @MC
    Himmelstein?

    Himmelstein? Maybe he’s adopted and his birth name is Jermaine Wilhelm. That would explain a lot.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Daddy's name is Tyrone and the family lives in Harlem. I'm willing to offer LARGE odds that he's not white.
  6. Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven’t spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    • Replies: @artichoke
    I think it's gone more to the idea that a man will defend his woman, not all women. Doing the latter can only get one in trouble these days, and it really can end badly.
    , @AndrewR
    Perhaps you imagine a halcyon era in which valiant huwyte men went to battle against predatory negros to defend delicate huwyte women unknown to them.

    I'm rather doubtful this era ever existed.

    Personally I would probably call the police, and I would likely step in if it were a life threatening situation, but no I wouldn't confront a strange man simply for slugging a strange woman, nor would any wise man.

    , @Spmoore8
    You realize your first link has tied together Rodger and Himmelstein.
    , @SFG
    Huh? One of the first rules of NYC is 'mind your own business'. It's not full of chivalrous sorts, never has been.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    It seems like our society frowns on white men who interfere with the misbehavior of Negroes. Examples abound.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Expanding on some of the replies to your question:

    If one has the means to legally intervene, and the thug is a continuing violent threat, then draw, aim, and fire. Don’t pull your thang out unless you plan to bang.

    I agree with commenter Stephen R. Diamond. A practical distinction can be made between coming to the immediate aid of an obvious ‘innocent’ victim unknown to a thug, and white knighting in a domestic scene where the beleaguered lady has made rather poor choices in companionship. If you are witness to the latter, discreetly observe and call the police if necessary.

    , @U. Ranus
    You know that old saw about how it's better to teach the poor to fish, than to just give them fish?

    I guess it applies here as well. If you see a girl grappling with diversity, you don't help her right away, that's like giving her fish.

    So what you do when you see she's got herself into Black trouble, you catch her eye as you walk past and say, "You shoulda voted Trump!"
  7. This story reminds me of other black “magnificent gentlemen” of late. Maybe some of the more ‘autistic spectrum’ black males are too timid to straight up rape (and kill) their prey, so they resort to relative (to their peers) passive-aggressive aggression.

    This other guy and this NYT op-ed by a Yale assistant professor are indicative of this “love me or else!” entitlement:

    Where is the love for us?

    It is time that blacks not be expected nor expect of themselves to set the standard for goodness and upstanding character in a society that regularly treats them cruelly. When I ask, where is the love, I am really asking you to tell me in return, to speak by your actions and take responsibility for the kind of radicalism it is now appropriate for blacks to take up: Should we heed Martin’s counsel and open our arms in embrace or should we be wary of yet another painful and bloody era of speaking and acting in bad faith, and as Malcolm advised, close our fists?

    • Replies: @Lot
    The author is an example of black american intellectuals who are completely obsessed with blackness. As Derb says, their work is all "black black black blackety black." The man is a professor of philosophy at yale after obtaining a Ph.D. in political science from MIT. Here is his Yale biography, which out of about 20 publications does not have a single one that is not about race:

    ---
    His book, The Color Of Our Shame: Race and Justice In Our Time was published by Oxford University Press in August 2013 and was awarded First Book Prize by the American Political Science Association Foundations of Political Theory section. His article, “The Agony of a Racial Democracy,” was published in Theory & Event vol 15, no. 3, 2012, a symposium on the shooting of Trayvon Martin. His article “Equality From A Human Point Of View,” was published in Critical Philosophy of Race vol 2, no. 2 2014. His paper, “Thoughts on Racial Democratic Education and Moral Virtue” is forthcoming in Theory and Research in Education. He is currently at work on his second book, From A Human Point of View: (Re)Imagining Racial Egalitarianism and a number of entries on race and philosophy: “Between Roots and Routes: On Gilroy’s The Black Atlantic” for the forthcoming Oxford Handbook of Contemporary Classics In Political Theory; “Against Rage: Anger in the Black American Tradition, Democratic Ethics, and Reasonable Frustration” for The Routledge Companion to Race and Philosophy, and “The Importance of Black Literature as Moral and Political Testimony” for The Oxford Handbook to Race and Philosophy. Additionally, Chris has been active in public forums discussing race, social justice, and democratic ethics – most recently he has written for The Boston Review and The New York Times.

    ---

    In the 7 years since he received his Ph.D., he has only published three articles in scholarly journals, but if you are black that is enough to get you a tenured position at Yale University.

    , @Curle
    "to set the standard for goodness"

    Somehow I'm not doing the math with the 500% higher crime rate thing.

    " and upstanding character in a society that regularly treats them cruelly."

    Perhaps the gov't should produce a list of recipient countries that would provide them more unearned income support than the US does and mail a copy of the list each year to our downtrodden c0-nationals.

    BTW - seeing as they deliver so much goodness and character for so little appreciation, how come other countries, Japan and Saudi Arabia come to mind, aren't clamoring to import them? They are, strangely, the gift we don't appreciate that few others appreciate either.
  8. He has underdog status and the leftist mantra is “the underdog is always right”.

    This dogma helped when it resulted in the Magna Carta or Habeas Corpus or the Bill of Rights in England, freeing large masses from feudalism and setting the stage for the industrial revolution.

    The crucial thing here is that a large quantity of people had their quality (I.e. Productive capacity) raised substantially by leftist moves, resulting in a population primed for exponential technological development.

    Having run out of worthy underdogs for a while, leftism is now targeting minor quantities of people for minor, if any, quality increases as in gay marriage or animal rights, simply out of underdogism.

    Thus we’re faced with the insanity of simultaneous dropping fertility, gay marriage AND mass Islamic immigration, as in Germany. Interesting times ahead.

    http://tarkmarg.blogspot.sg/2015/12/the-rise-and-decline-of-west-why-and.html?m=1

    • Agree: artichoke
  9. Google “Wild Man of 96th Street” for an example that stretches from 1985 to the present day.

    Here’s a sample from the LA Times:

    http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-06/news/mn-243_1_wild-man

    • Replies: @Lot
    Here's an article with a picture:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/wild-man-96th-st-larry-hogue-caught-police-upper-west-side-article-1.410008

    Before he was put away, Hogue, now 65, menaced the neighborhood around 96th St. He was big and he was bad, regularly mugging people to support his drug habit.

    He set fires under cars, heaved rocks through stained glass church windows, masturbated in front of kids, stalked seniors and threatened children with nail-studded clubs.

    Cops would arrest him and take him to the psychiatric ward, where he would be cut off from his crack supply.

    After a few weeks his demons would disappear and he'd be back to his old tricks on W. 96th St.

    Word that Hogue was once again on the loose on 96th St. - even for a short time - sent a chill through area residents.

    "I've been a New Yorker my whole life and he's the only thing that makes me afraid," said Dorothy White, a resident of W. 96th St. for 25 years. "This man is dangerous and I'm terrified."

    Michael Burns, 74, who once saw Hogue smash a car window after the driver refused to pay him for a squeegee job marveled that he wasn't better guarded.

    "Whoever released him has got a screw loose," Burns said.

    Hogue's reign of terror during the 90s made him a symbol of a blundering mental-health system. He was put in the slammer for a year after he slugged a 16-year-old girl and pushed her in front of a Con Ed truck.
     
    This would be unlikely to happen here in California, where he'd get a life sentence under our three strikes law. The prosecutor would also not put him in a psych ward, but would let his crappy public defender try to argue not guilty by mental defect and lose.
    , @2Mintzin1
    Yup.
    "Crazy Larry" terrorized that part of Manhattan for quite a few years. People protested, to no effect. For example, my niece about 12 years old at the time (she and her parents lived in the West 96 street area) was at her bus stop one day when Larry approached, and grabbed one of the 12-year-old boys in a headlock. From what she told me, he was a pretty big guy and completely irrational.
    They complained to the city, as did a lot of their fellow residents on the upper West side. Nothing happened until he targeted a middle-aged woman who lived in the same building as my relatives, and who worked for a television station (ABC? Not sure) ... The television station chose to do a story on Crazy Larry, and he was soon deported to New Jersey, I believe.

    Here's the point: political influence determines whether or not the government will protect you. I'm sorry to say that, but that's my conclusion after 30 years working for government at the Town County Federal, and State levels.
  10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Jian_Ghomeshi

    A Canadian story (don’t fall asleep) . Repeated violence to women. Got away with it. But he had been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year by the Canadian Government broadcaster.

    Pretty sure this American guy never was pals with Obama.

  11. Lot says:

    It does not look like the Hug Thug is part Jewish. His father is named “Tyrone Himmelstein,” and lives in a housing project in spanish harlem (on 2nd ave at 112th street).

    It is possible he got the name from a Jewish grandfather, but how many black children were NYC area Jews both siring AND giving their last names to in 1962? (based on the public record of Tyrone’s DOB). Maybe a few by 1972, but not 1962.

    The name is not exclusively Jewish, it simply means “Heaven-stone,” the type of pretty sounding name (like Rosenfeld=”Rose Field”) that you had to pay the local government some cash to get as a last name, so is disproportionately but far from exclusively Jewish.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    You are correct, "Himmelstein" is a German name, as are many Ashkenazi surnames, that's why I said superficially. On the other hand, he could be Jewish. He could also be Czech, inasmuch as there's a Himmelstein Castle in today's "Czechia" (note the Slavic spelling), which means the name is very old: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Himl%C5%A1tejn

    Although in fairness looking around for people with the Himmelstein monicker has mostly turned up persons who appear to be Jewish, including a Lithuanian (!) Jewish woman who invented the plus sized clothing chain Lane Bryant.

    I guess these arguments about Hug Thug's heritage won't get really intense until he wins a Nobel. I can wait.
    , @Anonymous
    Incidentally, Yorkville, which borders the south side of Spanish Harlem, used to be a German neighborhood. Lou Gehrig was born in Yorkville to German immigrant parents. Maybe the father has some ties to Yorkville.

    At any rate, it is unusual to see blacks with German surnames.
    , @iSteveFan
    Often freed slaves took the last name of their former masters. Maybe this family used to be enslaved by the Himmelstein family in pre-Civil War America.
    , @snorlax
    Occam's Razor says nice Jewish girl got knocked up by a black guy who promptly disappeared, so her son was given her last name. She'd probably be the grandmother or great-grandmother.
  12. Imagine that a white frat guy was repeatedly punching, harassing, and shaking women down for money in public places while wearing a “FREE HUGS” sign. It would be a major national scandal. The mayor and police chief would probably be forced to resign. It would be referenced endlessly as a graphic real world example of the misogyny and rape culture created by white men.

  13. @Stan d Mute
    Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven't spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    I think it’s gone more to the idea that a man will defend his woman, not all women. Doing the latter can only get one in trouble these days, and it really can end badly.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    Well, one doesn't want to get involved in some "domestic violence" bs, but an obvious mugging is something else.
  14. Lot says:
    @David
    Google "Wild Man of 96th Street" for an example that stretches from 1985 to the present day.

    Here's a sample from the LA Times:

    http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-06/news/mn-243_1_wild-man

    Here’s an article with a picture:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/wild-man-96th-st-larry-hogue-caught-police-upper-west-side-article-1.410008

    Before he was put away, Hogue, now 65, menaced the neighborhood around 96th St. He was big and he was bad, regularly mugging people to support his drug habit.

    He set fires under cars, heaved rocks through stained glass church windows, masturbated in front of kids, stalked seniors and threatened children with nail-studded clubs.

    Cops would arrest him and take him to the psychiatric ward, where he would be cut off from his crack supply.

    After a few weeks his demons would disappear and he’d be back to his old tricks on W. 96th St.

    Word that Hogue was once again on the loose on 96th St. – even for a short time – sent a chill through area residents.

    “I’ve been a New Yorker my whole life and he’s the only thing that makes me afraid,” said Dorothy White, a resident of W. 96th St. for 25 years. “This man is dangerous and I’m terrified.”

    Michael Burns, 74, who once saw Hogue smash a car window after the driver refused to pay him for a squeegee job marveled that he wasn’t better guarded.

    “Whoever released him has got a screw loose,” Burns said.

    Hogue’s reign of terror during the 90s made him a symbol of a blundering mental-health system. He was put in the slammer for a year after he slugged a 16-year-old girl and pushed her in front of a Con Ed truck.

    This would be unlikely to happen here in California, where he’d get a life sentence under our three strikes law. The prosecutor would also not put him in a psych ward, but would let his crappy public defender try to argue not guilty by mental defect and lose.

  15. Lot says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    This story reminds me of other black “magnificent gentlemen” of late. Maybe some of the more ‘autistic spectrum’ black males are too timid to straight up rape (and kill) their prey, so they resort to relative (to their peers) passive-aggressive aggression.

    This other guy and this NYT op-ed by a Yale assistant professor are indicative of this “love me or else!” entitlement:

    Where is the love for us?

    It is time that blacks not be expected nor expect of themselves to set the standard for goodness and upstanding character in a society that regularly treats them cruelly. When I ask, where is the love, I am really asking you to tell me in return, to speak by your actions and take responsibility for the kind of radicalism it is now appropriate for blacks to take up: Should we heed Martin’s counsel and open our arms in embrace or should we be wary of yet another painful and bloody era of speaking and acting in bad faith, and as Malcolm advised, close our fists?
     

    The author is an example of black american intellectuals who are completely obsessed with blackness. As Derb says, their work is all “black black black blackety black.” The man is a professor of philosophy at yale after obtaining a Ph.D. in political science from MIT. Here is his Yale biography, which out of about 20 publications does not have a single one that is not about race:


    His book, The Color Of Our Shame: Race and Justice In Our Time was published by Oxford University Press in August 2013 and was awarded First Book Prize by the American Political Science Association Foundations of Political Theory section. His article, “The Agony of a Racial Democracy,” was published in Theory & Event vol 15, no. 3, 2012, a symposium on the shooting of Trayvon Martin. His article “Equality From A Human Point Of View,” was published in Critical Philosophy of Race vol 2, no. 2 2014. His paper, “Thoughts on Racial Democratic Education and Moral Virtue” is forthcoming in Theory and Research in Education. He is currently at work on his second book, From A Human Point of View: (Re)Imagining Racial Egalitarianism and a number of entries on race and philosophy: “Between Roots and Routes: On Gilroy’s The Black Atlantic” for the forthcoming Oxford Handbook of Contemporary Classics In Political Theory; “Against Rage: Anger in the Black American Tradition, Democratic Ethics, and Reasonable Frustration” for The Routledge Companion to Race and Philosophy, and “The Importance of Black Literature as Moral and Political Testimony” for The Oxford Handbook to Race and Philosophy. Additionally, Chris has been active in public forums discussing race, social justice, and democratic ethics – most recently he has written for The Boston Review and The New York Times.

    In the 7 years since he received his Ph.D., he has only published three articles in scholarly journals, but if you are black that is enough to get you a tenured position at Yale University.

    • Replies: @celt darnell

    In the 7 years since he received his Ph.D., he has only published three articles in scholarly journals, but if you are black that is enough to get you a tenured position at Yale University.
     
    You understand exactly how the system works....
  16. @Lot
    It does not look like the Hug Thug is part Jewish. His father is named "Tyrone Himmelstein," and lives in a housing project in spanish harlem (on 2nd ave at 112th street).

    It is possible he got the name from a Jewish grandfather, but how many black children were NYC area Jews both siring AND giving their last names to in 1962? (based on the public record of Tyrone's DOB). Maybe a few by 1972, but not 1962.

    The name is not exclusively Jewish, it simply means "Heaven-stone," the type of pretty sounding name (like Rosenfeld="Rose Field") that you had to pay the local government some cash to get as a last name, so is disproportionately but far from exclusively Jewish.

    You are correct, “Himmelstein” is a German name, as are many Ashkenazi surnames, that’s why I said superficially. On the other hand, he could be Jewish. He could also be Czech, inasmuch as there’s a Himmelstein Castle in today’s “Czechia” (note the Slavic spelling), which means the name is very old: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Himl%C5%A1tejn

    Although in fairness looking around for people with the Himmelstein monicker has mostly turned up persons who appear to be Jewish, including a Lithuanian (!) Jewish woman who invented the plus sized clothing chain Lane Bryant.

    I guess these arguments about Hug Thug’s heritage won’t get really intense until he wins a Nobel. I can wait.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Why the exclamatory reaction to a Lithuanian Jewish woman bearing the name Himmelstein? The Lithuanian Jews spoke Yiddish, which has a mostly German vocabulary.
    , @International Jew

    You are correct, “Himmelstein” is a German name, as are many Ashkenazi surnames
     
    While it's theoretically possible for a non-Jewish German to be named Himmelstein, I'll venture that in the USA those guys are outnumbered at least 50:1 by Jewish (or ancestrally Jewish) Himmelsteins. Google the name and what do you see? Lots of doctors and lawyers, nary a brewer!

    Gertrude Himmelfarb, by the way, was the wife of the famous "New York Intellectual" Irving Kristol and mother of the neoconservative pundit William Kristol.

    As for the hug thug, my guess is...no idea. His mom's name is Denise—that doesn't sound black. But then hug thug himself looks too dark to be half white.

    Himmelstein seems an unlikely name for a long-ago slaveowner too; most American Jews then were Sephardi.
  17. When I was a grad student at Cal in the late 90s-early 00s, it was typical for the psycho homeless on Euclid to try to accost people. No cop ever came by, no one ever turned them away. We were expected to ignore it. One particularly bad time was when a man wouldn’t stop following me or screaming at me, mad that I was smoking and wouldn’t give him a cig. I finally changed my path and abruptly stopped, putting another man between myself and the psycho. The man did nothing, but off the psycho went muttering after someone else.

    At that time, I often was down in Palo Alto. One day on University Ave. while standing and smoking, a homeless bum came up to me, probably to beg a cigarette. Before he said anything, a man in a suit walking down the street accosted him, bellowed at him to “Get the Hell away from her” and basically threw him half a block. It took me a minute to even realize I should say thank you, as I was so used to hurrying away rather than standing ground, and so shocked I was that he did Something, let alone For a Woman.

    Everything you need to about Cal vs Stanford and Berkeley vs Palo Alto was in those interchanges.

    Any real men left in NY? Why not?

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas

    Any real men left in NY? Why not?
     
    They're mostly in the outer boroughs, where surprisingly there are few hug thugs and cigarette bums.
    , @2Mintzin1
    Perhaps they are aware that if they confront an abusive black/Hispanic person, other minorities will come to the aid of the abuser (see the video of the NYC cop and the free hugs guy), and they may soon be in the middle of an unfriendly crowd.

    Fellow whites will not help them, unless they are in law enforcement.

    That was the dynamic on the street when I lived in Manhattan many years ago, and in the Bronx when I worked there about 5 years ago. I doubt that things have changed.
  18. It should be pointed out that the hugs are not free, as the sign claims, so at the very least he’s guilty of false advertising.

    There’s apparently a steady supply of young White women who are all too willing to embrace a random young black male stranger. Why is that?!

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    SJWs committing conspicuous displays of virtue (CDVs).
  19. Donald Trump’s violent rhetoric at his rallies made this happen.

    • Replies: @Curle
    Nice.
  20. @Stan d Mute
    Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven't spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    Perhaps you imagine a halcyon era in which valiant huwyte men went to battle against predatory negros to defend delicate huwyte women unknown to them.

    I’m rather doubtful this era ever existed.

    Personally I would probably call the police, and I would likely step in if it were a life threatening situation, but no I wouldn’t confront a strange man simply for slugging a strange woman, nor would any wise man.

    • Disagree: Stephen R. Diamond
    • Replies: @Danindc
    That's because you're a pussy Andrew. No offense.
    , @artichoke
    In the old days of 20 or more years ago, that was considered chivalry. It was actually pretty common in my experience. But along with it, women were nicer to men. I don't have a better way to say it.

    And even after radical feminism became ingrained in so many women's attitudes, men hadn't really recalibrated. Now they have.

    Danindc is way out of line. He's free to be a white knight, but he won't get respect from males or females for it. If he feels an obligation nevertheless, hey it's his life.

    , @anon
    I've done it hundreds of times (not just white and black).

    When it is white/black you'll often get white SJWs screaming at you so that does put you off and I didn't do it a few times cos of that - which still grinds me when i'm reminded.

    Sometimes there's too many - one in particular when a (black) girl was being beaten to a pulp by a black guy but his gang were hanging back by a wall waiting for him to finish and i knew i didn't have a chance - still bugs me though. If I'd had a gun on me I would have.

    , @Anonymous
    Come on, the majority of bystanders would immediately get involved, and be willing to die, against some white guy in Texas Longhorns t-shirt standing off warning people not to accept Himmelstein's offer because it might transmit AIDS.
    , @Lurker
    Altercations between men and women in public are often part of some chaotic relationship problem. Getting involved is a waste of time.

    But...

    At one time one could be sure that a black man, white woman altercation was not in this category and thus one could intervene on her side.
  21. @Lot
    It does not look like the Hug Thug is part Jewish. His father is named "Tyrone Himmelstein," and lives in a housing project in spanish harlem (on 2nd ave at 112th street).

    It is possible he got the name from a Jewish grandfather, but how many black children were NYC area Jews both siring AND giving their last names to in 1962? (based on the public record of Tyrone's DOB). Maybe a few by 1972, but not 1962.

    The name is not exclusively Jewish, it simply means "Heaven-stone," the type of pretty sounding name (like Rosenfeld="Rose Field") that you had to pay the local government some cash to get as a last name, so is disproportionately but far from exclusively Jewish.

    Incidentally, Yorkville, which borders the south side of Spanish Harlem, used to be a German neighborhood. Lou Gehrig was born in Yorkville to German immigrant parents. Maybe the father has some ties to Yorkville.

    At any rate, it is unusual to see blacks with German surnames.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    "Incidentally, Yorkville, which borders the south side of Spanish Harlem, used to be a German neighborhood. Lou Gehrig was born in Yorkville to German immigrant parents. Maybe the father has some ties to Yorkville."

    Yorkville may border Spanish Harlem, but East 96th Street, which separates them, was traditionally a very, very stark demarcation line. The economic gulf on either side of the street was something like San Diego vs. Tijuana. Today it's not as sharp a division because the area to the north of 96th has improved a lot.

    About 30 miles east in Nassau County, however, a modest two-lane suburban road called Meadow Street is an even starker socioeconomic border. To the north is very upscale Garden City, to the south is semi-ghetto Hempstead.

    Peter
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    NFL RB Ricard Mendenhall, for instance. Lou Gerhig was born in 1903, so Yorkville has probably changed since that time. Even if the father does have ties to Yorkville, its no longer Gerhig's Yorkville.
  22. Well let’s say he is one quarter Jewish-not impossible, its even probable. That would make him three quarters Gentile.

    I could say lots more but then I’d be accused (falsely!) of anti-Gentilism, and we’ve had enough of that here.

  23. How is this newsworthy? It’s not exactly Duke or UVa’s rape culture, is it?

  24. @Stan d Mute
    Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven't spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    You realize your first link has tied together Rodger and Himmelstein.

  25. @AndrewR
    Perhaps you imagine a halcyon era in which valiant huwyte men went to battle against predatory negros to defend delicate huwyte women unknown to them.

    I'm rather doubtful this era ever existed.

    Personally I would probably call the police, and I would likely step in if it were a life threatening situation, but no I wouldn't confront a strange man simply for slugging a strange woman, nor would any wise man.

    That’s because you’re a pussy Andrew. No offense.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    It's interesting that I saw a video today of a man beating a woman for 20 minutes in broad daylight in Philly and no one intervened. Such wisdom; shades of Kitty Genovese. Actually much worse.

    Not saying at my age I could actually stop such an attack. I could misdirect it. But wow I wouldn't just do nothing.
    , @artichoke
    And you are? How have you risked your own safety for strangers?
    , @AndrewR
    I'm so hurt.
  26. @Anonymous
    Incidentally, Yorkville, which borders the south side of Spanish Harlem, used to be a German neighborhood. Lou Gehrig was born in Yorkville to German immigrant parents. Maybe the father has some ties to Yorkville.

    At any rate, it is unusual to see blacks with German surnames.

    “Incidentally, Yorkville, which borders the south side of Spanish Harlem, used to be a German neighborhood. Lou Gehrig was born in Yorkville to German immigrant parents. Maybe the father has some ties to Yorkville.”

    Yorkville may border Spanish Harlem, but East 96th Street, which separates them, was traditionally a very, very stark demarcation line. The economic gulf on either side of the street was something like San Diego vs. Tijuana. Today it’s not as sharp a division because the area to the north of 96th has improved a lot.

    About 30 miles east in Nassau County, however, a modest two-lane suburban road called Meadow Street is an even starker socioeconomic border. To the north is very upscale Garden City, to the south is semi-ghetto Hempstead.

    Peter

  27. @Anonymous
    Incidentally, Yorkville, which borders the south side of Spanish Harlem, used to be a German neighborhood. Lou Gehrig was born in Yorkville to German immigrant parents. Maybe the father has some ties to Yorkville.

    At any rate, it is unusual to see blacks with German surnames.

    NFL RB Ricard Mendenhall, for instance. Lou Gerhig was born in 1903, so Yorkville has probably changed since that time. Even if the father does have ties to Yorkville, its no longer Gerhig’s Yorkville.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Right, as I said, Yorkville used to be a German neighborhood. The father seems to be a black guy named Tyrone living in Spanish Harlem. By ties I meant ties to the Yorkville of many generations ago.
  28. At least the Desnudas, the topless Colombian women who pose for photos with tourists in Times Square, are reasonably polite.

    Peter

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    What do they charge for a hug?
  29. @Danindc
    That's because you're a pussy Andrew. No offense.

    It’s interesting that I saw a video today of a man beating a woman for 20 minutes in broad daylight in Philly and no one intervened. Such wisdom; shades of Kitty Genovese. Actually much worse.

    Not saying at my age I could actually stop such an attack. I could misdirect it. But wow I wouldn’t just do nothing.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    What kind of videos are you watching? Or was this on worldstarhiphop?
    , @Alec Leamas
    That wasn't a Kitty Genovese (largely debunked) situation.

    It's Upper Kensington, which is now pretty uniformly Puerto Rican. They were just playing by Hood Rulez. There's probably a back story about the man and the woman. It's certainly possible that he's a low level drug dealer, local tough type. If you intervene and beat him up, he's going to escalate probably to guns at some point. If you live on that block or a block over, that's a very substantial reduction in your individual quality of life. Assuming the likelihood that he's beating a woman with whom he's in some sort of intimate relationship, she's going to remain with him anyway for more beatings and probably laugh at you for intervening. So, what, precisely, will have been won?

    Maybe fifty years ago when Kensington was uniformly working class white you would have had a group intervention to a situation like this in public. Things which may have happened in private would most likely have remained private for the most part.

    FWIW, this is very, very close in proximity to Murray's "Fishtown."

    In my view, the situation is different for a situation in which there's an unprovoked attack by a stranger, where intervention is warranted. But I wouldn't get involved in a dispute between intimates and particularly where the couple is not white.
    , @Pat Gilligan

    It’s interesting that I saw a video today of a man beating a woman for 20 minutes in broad daylight in Philly and no one intervened. Such wisdom; shades of Kitty Genovese. Actually much worse.
     
    I imagine today the Kitty Genovese case would not be an example the bystander effect in psychology, but would be about social homophobia and violence against the LGBT community because Genovese happened to be a lesbian and lived with her partner, Mary Ann Zielonko. What's worse than doing nothing because of some bystander apathy? Doing nothing because of social homophobia because you are a horrible person and devalue people because of sexual orientation.
  30. –His parents, Denise and Tyrone Himmelstein, both 49, live in the Jefferson Houses in East Harlem, and until recently had no idea that this was what Jermaine did when he left the house. They thought he was with friends. Not becoming a creepy legend.–

    I’ve heard better lies.

  31. @Spmoore8
    It's interesting that I saw a video today of a man beating a woman for 20 minutes in broad daylight in Philly and no one intervened. Such wisdom; shades of Kitty Genovese. Actually much worse.

    Not saying at my age I could actually stop such an attack. I could misdirect it. But wow I wouldn't just do nothing.

    What kind of videos are you watching? Or was this on worldstarhiphop?

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    I followed a link from Drudge. There was a story on a Philly TV station. The assault happened yesterday.
    , @Dirk Dagger
    It's here, http://www.fox29.com/local-news/140661478-video. Dr. Farley, the psychologist, gives a very Onion-y performance.
  32. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    No doubt he will claim that he has always felt like a woman and that it is discrimination to lock him up.

  33. @David
    Google "Wild Man of 96th Street" for an example that stretches from 1985 to the present day.

    Here's a sample from the LA Times:

    http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-06/news/mn-243_1_wild-man

    Yup.
    “Crazy Larry” terrorized that part of Manhattan for quite a few years. People protested, to no effect. For example, my niece about 12 years old at the time (she and her parents lived in the West 96 street area) was at her bus stop one day when Larry approached, and grabbed one of the 12-year-old boys in a headlock. From what she told me, he was a pretty big guy and completely irrational.
    They complained to the city, as did a lot of their fellow residents on the upper West side. Nothing happened until he targeted a middle-aged woman who lived in the same building as my relatives, and who worked for a television station (ABC? Not sure) … The television station chose to do a story on Crazy Larry, and he was soon deported to New Jersey, I believe.

    Here’s the point: political influence determines whether or not the government will protect you. I’m sorry to say that, but that’s my conclusion after 30 years working for government at the Town County Federal, and State levels.

    • Agree: TWS
  34. I’m surprised some Staten Island father of one of these girls hasn’t decked this a**hole and explained you don’t hit women, in a way he’ll never forget.

  35. I am continually astonished at the combination of naivete and moral arrogance that White women exhibit. Hugging a Black male stranger on the street and expecting no problems…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Times Square and Washington Square Park during the daytime are safe areas populated by tourists and normal people. This guy is obviously mentally ill, but he's young enough and has parental support so that he doesn't appear to be like the typical crazy or homeless guy that populates NYC and that people reflexively avoid.
    , @anon
    they're programmed by school and media: racism is the worst sin
    , @E. Rekshun
    I am continually astonished at the combination of naivete and moral arrogance that White women exhibit. Hugging a Black male stranger on the street and expecting no problems…

    Well, either that or they don't want to appear to be rayyycis.
  36. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    NFL RB Ricard Mendenhall, for instance. Lou Gerhig was born in 1903, so Yorkville has probably changed since that time. Even if the father does have ties to Yorkville, its no longer Gerhig's Yorkville.

    Right, as I said, Yorkville used to be a German neighborhood. The father seems to be a black guy named Tyrone living in Spanish Harlem. By ties I meant ties to the Yorkville of many generations ago.

  37. @Stan d Mute
    Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven't spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    Huh? One of the first rules of NYC is ‘mind your own business’. It’s not full of chivalrous sorts, never has been.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    You realize that you and Alice are launching a potential flame war. I know NYC, Palo Alto, Berkeley, having lived there, and I've been to Philly many times. These incidents are something of a mystery. You don't have to be John Wayne to break up an assault or stop a crime. Just cause a commotion. People are pretty much the same everywhere, and someone steps up. I've seen it. But sometimes they don't.
  38. @SFG
    Huh? One of the first rules of NYC is 'mind your own business'. It's not full of chivalrous sorts, never has been.

    You realize that you and Alice are launching a potential flame war. I know NYC, Palo Alto, Berkeley, having lived there, and I’ve been to Philly many times. These incidents are something of a mystery. You don’t have to be John Wayne to break up an assault or stop a crime. Just cause a commotion. People are pretty much the same everywhere, and someone steps up. I’ve seen it. But sometimes they don’t.

    • Replies: @artichoke
    Be specific. Cause a commotion at the site of the beating and risk getting it yourself or worse? Jump up and down and try to get someone else to interfere instead? Call the cops? Someone did call the cops in fact.
  39. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    What kind of videos are you watching? Or was this on worldstarhiphop?

    I followed a link from Drudge. There was a story on a Philly TV station. The assault happened yesterday.

  40. @Lot
    It does not look like the Hug Thug is part Jewish. His father is named "Tyrone Himmelstein," and lives in a housing project in spanish harlem (on 2nd ave at 112th street).

    It is possible he got the name from a Jewish grandfather, but how many black children were NYC area Jews both siring AND giving their last names to in 1962? (based on the public record of Tyrone's DOB). Maybe a few by 1972, but not 1962.

    The name is not exclusively Jewish, it simply means "Heaven-stone," the type of pretty sounding name (like Rosenfeld="Rose Field") that you had to pay the local government some cash to get as a last name, so is disproportionately but far from exclusively Jewish.

    Often freed slaves took the last name of their former masters. Maybe this family used to be enslaved by the Himmelstein family in pre-Civil War America.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    Maybe his father's name was Gonzalez and he changed it to Himmelstein so people would think he was Jewish.
  41. @prosa123
    At least the Desnudas, the topless Colombian women who pose for photos with tourists in Times Square, are reasonably polite.

    Peter

    What do they charge for a hug?

    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    My guess the price would be about $30-50 for a hug and a discreet squeeze, if they could get away with it.
    So far, they can't...not in broad daylight, anyway.
  42. @Stan d Mute
    Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven't spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    It seems like our society frowns on white men who interfere with the misbehavior of Negroes. Examples abound.

  43. @Lot
    It does not look like the Hug Thug is part Jewish. His father is named "Tyrone Himmelstein," and lives in a housing project in spanish harlem (on 2nd ave at 112th street).

    It is possible he got the name from a Jewish grandfather, but how many black children were NYC area Jews both siring AND giving their last names to in 1962? (based on the public record of Tyrone's DOB). Maybe a few by 1972, but not 1962.

    The name is not exclusively Jewish, it simply means "Heaven-stone," the type of pretty sounding name (like Rosenfeld="Rose Field") that you had to pay the local government some cash to get as a last name, so is disproportionately but far from exclusively Jewish.

    Occam’s Razor says nice Jewish girl got knocked up by a black guy who promptly disappeared, so her son was given her last name. She’d probably be the grandmother or great-grandmother.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    Where was MLK 9 months before Tyrone was born? There does seem to be a resemblance ...... I'm loving this speculation. I want Jermaine's pedigree to the Battle of Boyne traced by tomorrow.
  44. “…our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women. ”

    Only if they’re frat boys. C’mon now.

  45. @iSteveFan
    Often freed slaves took the last name of their former masters. Maybe this family used to be enslaved by the Himmelstein family in pre-Civil War America.

    Maybe his father’s name was Gonzalez and he changed it to Himmelstein so people would think he was Jewish.

  46. @Lot
    The author is an example of black american intellectuals who are completely obsessed with blackness. As Derb says, their work is all "black black black blackety black." The man is a professor of philosophy at yale after obtaining a Ph.D. in political science from MIT. Here is his Yale biography, which out of about 20 publications does not have a single one that is not about race:

    ---
    His book, The Color Of Our Shame: Race and Justice In Our Time was published by Oxford University Press in August 2013 and was awarded First Book Prize by the American Political Science Association Foundations of Political Theory section. His article, “The Agony of a Racial Democracy,” was published in Theory & Event vol 15, no. 3, 2012, a symposium on the shooting of Trayvon Martin. His article “Equality From A Human Point Of View,” was published in Critical Philosophy of Race vol 2, no. 2 2014. His paper, “Thoughts on Racial Democratic Education and Moral Virtue” is forthcoming in Theory and Research in Education. He is currently at work on his second book, From A Human Point of View: (Re)Imagining Racial Egalitarianism and a number of entries on race and philosophy: “Between Roots and Routes: On Gilroy’s The Black Atlantic” for the forthcoming Oxford Handbook of Contemporary Classics In Political Theory; “Against Rage: Anger in the Black American Tradition, Democratic Ethics, and Reasonable Frustration” for The Routledge Companion to Race and Philosophy, and “The Importance of Black Literature as Moral and Political Testimony” for The Oxford Handbook to Race and Philosophy. Additionally, Chris has been active in public forums discussing race, social justice, and democratic ethics – most recently he has written for The Boston Review and The New York Times.

    ---

    In the 7 years since he received his Ph.D., he has only published three articles in scholarly journals, but if you are black that is enough to get you a tenured position at Yale University.

    In the 7 years since he received his Ph.D., he has only published three articles in scholarly journals, but if you are black that is enough to get you a tenured position at Yale University.

    You understand exactly how the system works….

  47. @artichoke
    I think it's gone more to the idea that a man will defend his woman, not all women. Doing the latter can only get one in trouble these days, and it really can end badly.

    Well, one doesn’t want to get involved in some “domestic violence” bs, but an obvious mugging is something else.

  48. This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women.

    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your “Reagan revolution” dismantled the country’s psychiatric hospitals.]

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals."

    I've never heard what the reason was for dismantling the country's psychiatric hospitals. It doesn't seem as though it has worked out very well.
    , @EriK
    Emptying the nut houses started long before the Reagan Revolution.

    In California, for example, the number of patients in state mental hospitals reached a peak of 37,500 in 1959 when Edmund G. Brown was Governor, fell to 22,000 when Ronald Reagan attained that office in 1967, and continued to decline under his administration and that of his successor, Edmund G. Brown Jr. The senior Mr. Brown now expresses regret about the way the policy started and ultimately evolved. ''They've gone far, too far, in letting people out,'' he said in an interview.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Wrong, Tonto. Liberals went to court in the late 60s saying that being mentally ill was just a lifestyle choice, and that even if they were mentally ill, it was cruel to warehouse them when they could be re-integrated into society and get their meds at a community center, blah, blah, blah. The well-done but dishonest movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest had a great influence.

    Fully 1/3 of hospital beds in the 60s were in mental institutions, so states were happy to be rid of these people. And of course the community centers never materialized and even if they did, these guys (it was mostly guys) were too drunk or crazy or drugged to remember to go get their meds.

    And now we spend billions of dollars subsidizing the street life of crazies, druggies, and alcoholics. And the Left has another Compassion Club to beat Republicans with. Note that we have heard nothing about the homeless (or about Cindy Sheehan for that matter) since one January day in 2009. Homelessness will be a National Problem once again the day Trump is sworn in.
    , @2Mintzin1
    Oh, please. The mental hospitals began closing in NY state during the 1970's because of the new fad in treatment of mental illness, motivated in part by disclosure in news reports of abusive conditions in the big facilities, the theory that these people would be better off in smaller residential settings, and the realization of the clowns in Albany (I speak of our state legislature) that they were spending the state into financial insolvency.

    I lived in Manhattan in the mid-late '70's and the fruits of the new policy were already clear from the huge numbers of mentally ill on the street.

    SRO's (single room occupancy hotels) on the upper west side had to be protected from closure by law, because people were up in arms over the filth and random violence the unsupervised mentally ill brought with them . One very vivid incident, reported in the newspaper, involved the resident of SRO near Riverside Drive dropping a full paint can out of his upper-story window, in an attempt to hit a child in a baby carriage on the sidewalk below.
    He missed , but not by much, and was arrested.

    Now, tell me again when the "Reagan revolution" took place?
    , @Almost Missouri
    De-institutionalization of the mentally ill was the pet project of liberal Supreme Court Justices, the ACLU and Latino-supremacist and soldier-back-stabber Gerry ("Geraldo") Rivera, beginning in the late 1960's, long before Reagan arrived in DC.
    , @unpc downunder
    I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The liberal left doesn't like locking up dangerous people, while the liberal right doesn't like paying the financial cost. Those who put all the blame on the liberal left need to explain why Germans and Scandinavians are much more interventionist:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/ann-coulter-on-mass-shootings-the-problem-isnt-guns-or-white-men

  49. I just want to give the Daily News it’s due.

    “The hug thug” line is pretty good.

  50. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    So how many hugs does he give to other blacks? I’m thinking zero. It’s vast majority white girls, right?

    This paragraph is comedy gold in the African style:

    “I observed the girl going down into the subway system, and I hid my cardboard sign behind a pole. I followed the girl into the subway system, sucker punched her, and then I jumped over the turnstile and ran away.”

    These words offer a tremendous incite into the thought process. It’s all right there. Next time you hear about some heinous crime committed by one his brothas and think ‘What were they thinking?’ —-well, now you know.

  51. @snorlax
    Occam's Razor says nice Jewish girl got knocked up by a black guy who promptly disappeared, so her son was given her last name. She'd probably be the grandmother or great-grandmother.

    Where was MLK 9 months before Tyrone was born? There does seem to be a resemblance …… I’m loving this speculation. I want Jermaine’s pedigree to the Battle of Boyne traced by tomorrow.

  52. @AndrewR
    Perhaps you imagine a halcyon era in which valiant huwyte men went to battle against predatory negros to defend delicate huwyte women unknown to them.

    I'm rather doubtful this era ever existed.

    Personally I would probably call the police, and I would likely step in if it were a life threatening situation, but no I wouldn't confront a strange man simply for slugging a strange woman, nor would any wise man.

    In the old days of 20 or more years ago, that was considered chivalry. It was actually pretty common in my experience. But along with it, women were nicer to men. I don’t have a better way to say it.

    And even after radical feminism became ingrained in so many women’s attitudes, men hadn’t really recalibrated. Now they have.

    Danindc is way out of line. He’s free to be a white knight, but he won’t get respect from males or females for it. If he feels an obligation nevertheless, hey it’s his life.

    • Replies: @Redking
    I've got to agree. There are other aspects to it too. Who wants to be the next George Zimmerman? Who is going to lay hands on a black jewish autistic? No white man that has been through the American education system and watches TV. You just don't do that.
    , @anon

    He’s free to be a white knight, but he won’t get respect from males or females for it.
     
    You do from most - just not SJWs and feminists.

    Just another way feminists have made life worse for normal women.
  53. @Spmoore8
    You realize that you and Alice are launching a potential flame war. I know NYC, Palo Alto, Berkeley, having lived there, and I've been to Philly many times. These incidents are something of a mystery. You don't have to be John Wayne to break up an assault or stop a crime. Just cause a commotion. People are pretty much the same everywhere, and someone steps up. I've seen it. But sometimes they don't.

    Be specific. Cause a commotion at the site of the beating and risk getting it yourself or worse? Jump up and down and try to get someone else to interfere instead? Call the cops? Someone did call the cops in fact.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    Have to go case by case. With Jermaine first thing you do is take his sign. I think you are way too concerned about getting hurt. Especially when someone else getting hurt is at stake.
  54. @Stephen R. Diamond

    This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women.
     
    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals.]

    “Problem is, your “Reagan revolution” dismantled the country’s psychiatric hospitals.”

    I’ve never heard what the reason was for dismantling the country’s psychiatric hospitals. It doesn’t seem as though it has worked out very well.

    • Replies: @anon
    Money.

    The price in blood is paid in the shitty areas so it doesn't matter.
  55. @Danindc
    That's because you're a pussy Andrew. No offense.

    And you are? How have you risked your own safety for strangers?

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    Please stop. You don't have to "risk your life", so melodramatic. In any kind of binary confrontation awareness of a third party is crucial. You can call 911 and yell. If they approach you, you can run and scream. You don't have to stand and watch or turn your back because women are supposedly not worth it anymore. Good Lord.
    , @Danindc
    Yes, many times. We're very different people.
    , @Brutusale
    Uh, yeah. As a bouncer, I was forced to many times. I can also tell you that the NAMs we had to beat down were "punching" far above their weight for violent behavior as a percentage of the crowd at the club. The only bigger punks were the city Irish guys, but they were always drunker and easier to handle.

    My favorite, however, was as a civilian, and it involved an interracial couple AND domestic violence in a mall parking lot. I did make sure he swung first, though. My only regret was that the two kids, already traumatized by seeing daddy bloody mommy's face with about 12 closed-fist punches (probably not for the first time) had to see daddy catch a beating, too.

    The kicker to the whole thing was, when the cops arrived and cuffed the guy, the baby momma started complaining to the cops that because it was a long weekend, her baby daddy would have to spend 3 days in jail before going before a judge.

    The net result is that it was probably a total waste of my time and effort.

  56. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I am continually astonished at the combination of naivete and moral arrogance that White women exhibit. Hugging a Black male stranger on the street and expecting no problems...

    Times Square and Washington Square Park during the daytime are safe areas populated by tourists and normal people. This guy is obviously mentally ill, but he’s young enough and has parental support so that he doesn’t appear to be like the typical crazy or homeless guy that populates NYC and that people reflexively avoid.

  57. @artichoke
    And you are? How have you risked your own safety for strangers?

    Please stop. You don’t have to “risk your life”, so melodramatic. In any kind of binary confrontation awareness of a third party is crucial. You can call 911 and yell. If they approach you, you can run and scream. You don’t have to stand and watch or turn your back because women are supposedly not worth it anymore. Good Lord.

  58. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    He’s been running an extortion racket through intimidation and the threat of violence. He has his ‘FREE HUGS’ sign and runs up to young, easily scared women and cows them into going along with the supposed free hug. Then he demands money and turns menacing, dropping the friendly facade and intimidating the women into handing over some money. That’s how he’s been able to make $30 p/hr. There’s different variations of this sort of thing played out against tourists and other unsuspecting persons all over. Beware of strangers approaching you about anything and don’t be afraid to be unfriendly in brushing them off.

  59. @artichoke
    Be specific. Cause a commotion at the site of the beating and risk getting it yourself or worse? Jump up and down and try to get someone else to interfere instead? Call the cops? Someone did call the cops in fact.

    Have to go case by case. With Jermaine first thing you do is take his sign. I think you are way too concerned about getting hurt. Especially when someone else getting hurt is at stake.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Sorry, the ladies forfeited their right to chivalry when they started accusing us of sexism 24/7.

    You're free to defend your nice Southern Christian women, they probably deserve it.

  60. @Stan d Mute
    Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven't spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    Expanding on some of the replies to your question:

    If one has the means to legally intervene, and the thug is a continuing violent threat, then draw, aim, and fire. Don’t pull your thang out unless you plan to bang.

    I agree with commenter Stephen R. Diamond. A practical distinction can be made between coming to the immediate aid of an obvious ‘innocent’ victim unknown to a thug, and white knighting in a domestic scene where the beleaguered lady has made rather poor choices in companionship. If you are witness to the latter, discreetly observe and call the police if necessary.

  61. Totem Pole – the only and real explanation for modern America – again.

    In America, the only thing that trumps ‘women’ are ‘blacks’, so it’s a black win.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You have terrible observation skills. Any "person of color", black or not, trumps women, as do gays and trannies.
  62. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    As Steve said, Himmelstein is being eminently rational – trying to call him ‘insane’ or ‘mad’ just will not do. He’s hit on a very cunning way to apparently ‘legally’ mug strangers in the street – and get clean away with it – and make, on average, 30 dollars per hour.
    30 dollars per hour for doing nothing but intimidating weaklings. As I said, eminently rational.

    Now here’s a point. On these sites we read endless guff about ‘low black IQ’, but in this case just *who* is the fool? Himmelstein isn’t.
    Not so much low black IQ, but inherent black unpleasantness, nastiness, selfishness and cunning – which apparently can run rings around prize ‘high IQ’ chumps like Merkel.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Not so much low black IQ, but inherent black unpleasantness, nastiness, selfishness and cunning..."

    No, that is decidedly not the case at all. Here is a primer on autism.

    https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism
  63. Even this commentariat seems unwilling to acknowledge what was really going on in the Philly beating show. If someone stepped in and decked the perp this woman would get up and beat the white knight for decking her man. After all, he wouldn’t take twenty minutes to beat her if he didn’t love her.

  64. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    What kind of videos are you watching? Or was this on worldstarhiphop?

    It’s here, http://www.fox29.com/local-news/140661478-video. Dr. Farley, the psychologist, gives a very Onion-y performance.

  65. Steve, as long as you’re dealing with reigns of terror consistently ignored by the constabulary here in NYC, can you do something about the bike gangs of Inwood/Ft George/Washington Heights? They somewhat came to the public eye after running down and beating an Asian youth who was driving his wife and child in an SUV and fell afoul of their Mad Max antics, but since that burst of publicity nothing has changed. They take over the streets on warm weekends like Dodge City on payday.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    Yeah, I see them popping wheelies down Second then over the Queensboro Bridge and up and down Queens Boulevard. Kinda like Marlon Brando and Lee Marvin in The Wild Ones. That's a unique black sub-culture. I haven't read anything in the press about them.
    , @Anonymous
    Alexian Lien was 33 years old at the time of the beating. Is "Asian youth" the best descriptor of an Asian man of that age?
    , @black sea
    On the topic of Gangs of New York:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/15/meet-the-shomrim-the-hasidic-volunteer-cops-who-answer-to-nobody.html

  66. @Stan d Mute
    Another question, given this is Manhattan, are there any men of great privilege who would be Good Samaritans and step into this mess to defend these presumably white women from this person of color? The city is surprisingly white for those who haven't spent any time there, so there is no shortage of privileged men around. Nor, for that matter, is there any shortage of NYPD cops. I can think of many cities with even fewer whites per capita on the sidewalks and many fewer cops where this behavior would have been stopped three years ago. Is this the ultimate end result of leftist propaganda and demoralization of white men? Men who refuse to defend even white women from brazen street assaults on women committed by negroes?

    You know that old saw about how it’s better to teach the poor to fish, than to just give them fish?

    I guess it applies here as well. If you see a girl grappling with diversity, you don’t help her right away, that’s like giving her fish.

    So what you do when you see she’s got herself into Black trouble, you catch her eye as you walk past and say, “You shoulda voted Trump!”

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Trump 20:16 "Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Deport him, and you won't have to feed him or his anchor babies ever again."
  67. This is one more reason to hate Judah Freidlander and Dave Matthews.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    Friedlander- quite a career for never saying anything the least bit funny.
  68. @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Steve, as long as you're dealing with reigns of terror consistently ignored by the constabulary here in NYC, can you do something about the bike gangs of Inwood/Ft George/Washington Heights? They somewhat came to the public eye after running down and beating an Asian youth who was driving his wife and child in an SUV and fell afoul of their Mad Max antics, but since that burst of publicity nothing has changed. They take over the streets on warm weekends like Dodge City on payday.

    Yeah, I see them popping wheelies down Second then over the Queensboro Bridge and up and down Queens Boulevard. Kinda like Marlon Brando and Lee Marvin in The Wild Ones. That’s a unique black sub-culture. I haven’t read anything in the press about them.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I saw black motorcycle gangs roar by in Chicago in the 1980s and 1990s, maybe up to three dozen at once.

    My impression is that motorcycle gangs tend to be guys who were in the military, come home, and find civilian life dull. They're a nuisance, but they're less trouble in America than the freikorps of ex-soldiers were in Germany after the Great War. Motorcycle gang members tend to be older and richer than street gang members, so they're fewer in number and thus are a less pervasive problem.

  69. @artichoke
    In the old days of 20 or more years ago, that was considered chivalry. It was actually pretty common in my experience. But along with it, women were nicer to men. I don't have a better way to say it.

    And even after radical feminism became ingrained in so many women's attitudes, men hadn't really recalibrated. Now they have.

    Danindc is way out of line. He's free to be a white knight, but he won't get respect from males or females for it. If he feels an obligation nevertheless, hey it's his life.

    I’ve got to agree. There are other aspects to it too. Who wants to be the next George Zimmerman? Who is going to lay hands on a black jewish autistic? No white man that has been through the American education system and watches TV. You just don’t do that.

  70. @Danindc
    That's because you're a pussy Andrew. No offense.

    I’m so hurt.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    Not surprising. It usually hurts when weakness is revealed.

    Just to repeat - this black thug was brutalizing this young Canadian woman Sophie Violene Dauvois on the street in NYC- if you saw this and decided not my problem, you just can't call yourself a man. My assumption is that since your name is Andrew, you are a man. If I'm mistaken, my apologies obviously.
  71. Whatever produced Jermaine Himmelstein also produced Barrack Obama. Don’t ask me for the details.

  72. @Hhsiii
    Yeah, I see them popping wheelies down Second then over the Queensboro Bridge and up and down Queens Boulevard. Kinda like Marlon Brando and Lee Marvin in The Wild Ones. That's a unique black sub-culture. I haven't read anything in the press about them.

    I saw black motorcycle gangs roar by in Chicago in the 1980s and 1990s, maybe up to three dozen at once.

    My impression is that motorcycle gangs tend to be guys who were in the military, come home, and find civilian life dull. They’re a nuisance, but they’re less trouble in America than the freikorps of ex-soldiers were in Germany after the Great War. Motorcycle gang members tend to be older and richer than street gang members, so they’re fewer in number and thus are a less pervasive problem.

    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    There used to be a club yclept the Black Unicorns, in Manhattan. Their HQ was in a storefront on ...Frederick Douglas Blvd.(?)...anyway, just north of 110th Street. The storefront had a block wall with some openings in it (gunports? don't know) just inside the plateglass storefront.

    These fellas differed from the white gangs, in that they rode Jap bikes mainly, not Harleys, and felt free to drag race , on wheelie-bar equipped bikes, on the street.

    I rode through their area many times, and was never bothered, possibly because I kept my helmet visor down (always keep your visor down in Sherwood Forest) so I was never spotted as The White Man.

    Don't recall any Hispanic bike gangs at the time, although the Savage Skulls and Los Sucios (the Dirty Ones) dressed like bikers (Denim vests with colors, etc.) had really mean reputations.
  73. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Himmelstein openly and brazenly commits the offence of ‘assault and battery’ on the streets of New York City.
    I don’t know what the legal situation in New York is, but in England, ‘assault’ as defined in common law means to put an individual in the immediate apprehension that they will be receiving a physical attack – not – as generally understood by the layman as being the actual physical attack itself, which is defined as ‘battery’.
    Both crimes either committed singly or together are punishable by a heavy custodial sentence.

    We’ve heard so much about ‘zero tolerance’, ‘broken windows’ ‘three strikes and you’re out’ Rudolf Giuliani and his penal incarceration policies etc, but somehow, the living embodiment of all this, Himmelstein, gets away scot free. Surely savvy cops and prosecutors could have out him away for a long time.

    And there’s also his misleading advertising. I don’t know about the USA, but in England, under various acts, this is actually a criminal and not civil offence.

    • Replies: @anon

    We’ve heard so much about ‘zero tolerance’, ‘broken windows’ ‘three strikes and you’re out’ Rudolf Giuliani and his penal incarceration policies etc, but somehow, the living embodiment of all this, Himmelstein, gets away scot free.
     
    Sounds to me he's in the gap between mugger and mental patient so not surprising he got away with it.
    , @2Mintzin1
    Giuliani was term-limited out many years ago, and his crime policies (which had an amazing revitalizing effect on the city) have fallen into disuse.
  74. @Stephen R. Diamond

    This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women.
     
    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals.]

    Emptying the nut houses started long before the Reagan Revolution.

    In California, for example, the number of patients in state mental hospitals reached a peak of 37,500 in 1959 when Edmund G. Brown was Governor, fell to 22,000 when Ronald Reagan attained that office in 1967, and continued to decline under his administration and that of his successor, Edmund G. Brown Jr. The senior Mr. Brown now expresses regret about the way the policy started and ultimately evolved. ”They’ve gone far, too far, in letting people out,” he said in an interview.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I first read about bag ladies in reference to Diane Keaton's styles in 1977's "Annie Hall." I can recall being confused by the term because I was unfamiliar with the idea of older women being homeless. Before 1977 it wasn't a thing.
    , @Corvinus
    "Emptying the nut houses" was a nationwide initiative in the 1960's and 1970's amid several in-depth reports, including an investigation in the early 1970's by Geraldo Rivera in Pittsburgh, that exposed the conditions of state mental health hospitals. There was the assumption that by reorganizing these treatment facilities, combined with funding by communities, that the mentally ill would not be merely "warehoused", but afforded opportunities to alleviate their symptoms in a humane matter.
  75. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    Perhaps you imagine a halcyon era in which valiant huwyte men went to battle against predatory negros to defend delicate huwyte women unknown to them.

    I'm rather doubtful this era ever existed.

    Personally I would probably call the police, and I would likely step in if it were a life threatening situation, but no I wouldn't confront a strange man simply for slugging a strange woman, nor would any wise man.

    I’ve done it hundreds of times (not just white and black).

    When it is white/black you’ll often get white SJWs screaming at you so that does put you off and I didn’t do it a few times cos of that – which still grinds me when i’m reminded.

    Sometimes there’s too many – one in particular when a (black) girl was being beaten to a pulp by a black guy but his gang were hanging back by a wall waiting for him to finish and i knew i didn’t have a chance – still bugs me though. If I’d had a gun on me I would have.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    "Hundreds of times"? Seriously dude?

    If you're for real, let's hear about it.
  76. @EriK
    Emptying the nut houses started long before the Reagan Revolution.

    In California, for example, the number of patients in state mental hospitals reached a peak of 37,500 in 1959 when Edmund G. Brown was Governor, fell to 22,000 when Ronald Reagan attained that office in 1967, and continued to decline under his administration and that of his successor, Edmund G. Brown Jr. The senior Mr. Brown now expresses regret about the way the policy started and ultimately evolved. ''They've gone far, too far, in letting people out,'' he said in an interview.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all

    I first read about bag ladies in reference to Diane Keaton’s styles in 1977’s “Annie Hall.” I can recall being confused by the term because I was unfamiliar with the idea of older women being homeless. Before 1977 it wasn’t a thing.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    "My grammy never gave gifts. She was too busy getting raped by Cossacks."
    , @ScarletNumber
    Bag ladies, not "bad"
  77. @Anonymous
    I am continually astonished at the combination of naivete and moral arrogance that White women exhibit. Hugging a Black male stranger on the street and expecting no problems...

    they’re programmed by school and media: racism is the worst sin

  78. @artichoke
    In the old days of 20 or more years ago, that was considered chivalry. It was actually pretty common in my experience. But along with it, women were nicer to men. I don't have a better way to say it.

    And even after radical feminism became ingrained in so many women's attitudes, men hadn't really recalibrated. Now they have.

    Danindc is way out of line. He's free to be a white knight, but he won't get respect from males or females for it. If he feels an obligation nevertheless, hey it's his life.

    He’s free to be a white knight, but he won’t get respect from males or females for it.

    You do from most – just not SJWs and feminists.

    Just another way feminists have made life worse for normal women.

  79. @Anonymous
    "Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals."

    I've never heard what the reason was for dismantling the country's psychiatric hospitals. It doesn't seem as though it has worked out very well.

    Money.

    The price in blood is paid in the shitty areas so it doesn’t matter.

  80. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Himmelstein openly and brazenly commits the offence of 'assault and battery' on the streets of New York City.
    I don't know what the legal situation in New York is, but in England, 'assault' as defined in common law means to put an individual in the immediate apprehension that they will be receiving a physical attack - not - as generally understood by the layman as being the actual physical attack itself, which is defined as 'battery'.
    Both crimes either committed singly or together are punishable by a heavy custodial sentence.

    We've heard so much about 'zero tolerance', 'broken windows' 'three strikes and you're out' Rudolf Giuliani and his penal incarceration policies etc, but somehow, the living embodiment of all this, Himmelstein, gets away scot free. Surely savvy cops and prosecutors could have out him away for a long time.

    And there's also his misleading advertising. I don't know about the USA, but in England, under various acts, this is actually a criminal and not civil offence.

    We’ve heard so much about ‘zero tolerance’, ‘broken windows’ ‘three strikes and you’re out’ Rudolf Giuliani and his penal incarceration policies etc, but somehow, the living embodiment of all this, Himmelstein, gets away scot free.

    Sounds to me he’s in the gap between mugger and mental patient so not surprising he got away with it.

  81. To save time, read the last paragraphs of a Times story first.

  82. @Laguna Beach Fogey
    It should be pointed out that the hugs are not free, as the sign claims, so at the very least he's guilty of false advertising.

    There's apparently a steady supply of young White women who are all too willing to embrace a random young black male stranger. Why is that?!

    SJWs committing conspicuous displays of virtue (CDVs).

  83. @AndrewR
    I'm so hurt.

    Not surprising. It usually hurts when weakness is revealed.

    Just to repeat – this black thug was brutalizing this young Canadian woman Sophie Violene Dauvois on the street in NYC- if you saw this and decided not my problem, you just can’t call yourself a man. My assumption is that since your name is Andrew, you are a man. If I’m mistaken, my apologies obviously.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    How many women has your white knighting got you?
  84. If the decent carried repeating arms in The Apple, the miscreants would evaporate.

  85. Cryptogenic [AKA "Gentile Ben"] says:

    This idiot wouldn’t exist at all if women hadn’t fed his sickness and hugged him all these years.

    How many white women do you reckon have hugged him? Why would I intervene on their behalf? I’m not going out on a limb for them.

    There was never a time when white men defended white women against such dangers because there was never a time when white women hugged strange black men in public and gave them money.

  86. @Ozymandias
    Sue the parents, it will stop.

    Sue the parents, it will stop.

    I fail to see how his parents are liable for this adult man’s behavior, or how that would be a just outcome, even if they were. The solution is for this man to be sent to the New York state penitentiary, not to steal money from his innocent parents.

  87. This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women. And who in authority should be held accountable for not dealing with this guy’s extremely conspicuous reign of terror?

    Jermaine Himmelstein (interesting name) would be much more ubiquitous national news if he was a lot lighter and his name was Haven Monahan, and he walked naked and barefoot across shattered glass in order to give his hugs.

  88. I’ve seen all kinds of crazy homeless people; White ones tend to curse and mutter to themselves, blacks seem to run around waving their arms, scream and are much more confrontational. Must be the lack of self control aspect.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    I used to work at a home and workshop for handicapped people. One of the interesting HBD aspects was that the various handicapped residents often seemed to show ethnically stereotyped behavior to a very exaggerated degree.

    For example, the white Yankee guys were obsessive about organization and scheduling, picked up trash they didn't drop and made sure the recycling was done to a "t". Black women loved loud music and attention and were generally warm-hearted. Jewish guys were clever and often surprisingly sophisticated about getting what they wanted and often had savant-ish, Rain-Man talents. Latino: bravado and interest in females. Black guys were violent and sexually aggressive and exhibitionistic.

    One might almost say that stripped of their higher cognitive functions, the residents became ethnic self-caricatures. That experience went some way in convincing me that HBD is hardwired in at a pretty basic level.
  89. @ChaseBizzy
    This is one more reason to hate Judah Freidlander and Dave Matthews.

    Friedlander- quite a career for never saying anything the least bit funny.

  90. @artichoke
    And you are? How have you risked your own safety for strangers?

    Yes, many times. We’re very different people.

  91. @SPMoore8
    Hugs probably hasn't been stopped because superficially he's a triple counter: black, Jewish, and autistic. Realistically he should be incarcerated, or his parents should be held accountable for his conduct (i.e., keeping him at home.)

    It shouldn't have been allowed to get to this point, but I am pretty sure that if nothing is done someone is going to get seriously hurt, and not necessarily some lass refusing his embrace.

    “Hugs probably hasn’t been stopped because superficially he’s a triple counter: black, Jewish, and autistic.”

    And the most important thing here is that he is autistic. To what degree the article does not say.
    Clearly he is not normal.

    “Realistically he should be incarcerated, or his parents should be held accountable for his conduct (i.e., keeping him at home.)”

    Actually, he has every legal right to be on a street and hold a sign. Unfortunately, only until he commits a crime is he able to be incarcerated. To complicate matters, he is viewed as an adult when it comes to mental illness laws, and therefore has the liberty to accept or reject treatment. If and when he is arrested, a judge could order a competency hearing to determine to what extent is he a danger to himself and others, and order, based on his findings, mandatory counseling.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    If you'd read more carefully, you'd have seen that the guy has been arrested multiple times.
    , @Dirk Dagger
    Another video of Jeremy/Jermaine -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=jEEL5EqXt1o

    Is this "autism"? (I don't know the ins and outs of loonies.)

    He seems to pussy-up pretty good when confronted by a more-or-less able-bodied male, really reigns his uncontrolabe aggression in; it's almost like he's rational. Wouldn't that be more "personality disorder" (a/k/a "being a chickenshit asshole")?

    Enlighten me Unzers.

  92. “On an average day, he makes up to $30 an hour.”

    Jesus, he makes as much as I do. There you have it kids: skip the expensive accounting, engineering, or law degree and go harass people on the streets. I have no sympathy for his type.

  93. @EriK
    Emptying the nut houses started long before the Reagan Revolution.

    In California, for example, the number of patients in state mental hospitals reached a peak of 37,500 in 1959 when Edmund G. Brown was Governor, fell to 22,000 when Ronald Reagan attained that office in 1967, and continued to decline under his administration and that of his successor, Edmund G. Brown Jr. The senior Mr. Brown now expresses regret about the way the policy started and ultimately evolved. ''They've gone far, too far, in letting people out,'' he said in an interview.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all

    “Emptying the nut houses” was a nationwide initiative in the 1960’s and 1970’s amid several in-depth reports, including an investigation in the early 1970’s by Geraldo Rivera in Pittsburgh, that exposed the conditions of state mental health hospitals. There was the assumption that by reorganizing these treatment facilities, combined with funding by communities, that the mentally ill would not be merely “warehoused”, but afforded opportunities to alleviate their symptoms in a humane matter.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Ken Kesey, Thomas Szasz, Michel Foucault, and numerous psychological experiments that showed that the criteria for defining mental illness and then treating it in various gruesome ways were completely arbitrary was also a part of the mix. In other words, "emptying out the asylums" wasn't just a cruel rightwing cost cutting stunt, it was also a left wing libertarian cause. One which I generally agree with, as a matter of fact.

    However, if someone physically assaults several people over 3 years, that person needs to be taken off the streets. Period. I don't care how neurologically atypical he is. You just can't have people engaging in physical violence without sanction. For one thing, he may get worse over time. For another thing, someone might decide to take the law into their own hands. This is what we have law enforcement for.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Actually, the institutions that Gerry "Geraldo" Rivera publicized were in New York. The famous/infamous one was Willowbrook on Staten Island, which was also the largest such institution in the world at the time.

    Incidentally, after all the the newsmongering, speechifying, legislating and litigating was over, the price tag for the "humane" alternative to Willowbrooks is currently about $70,000/person/year, which is about the same cost as sending every handicapped/mentally ill person to Harvard ... forever. Except there won't be any scientific, artistic or social breakthroughs coming out of these "Harvard" students any time soon. (Not that the actual Harvard has had much to brag about recently either,* but at least their invoices stop at four years.)

    Needless to say, combine a $70k/year/head price tag that only goes up, with ever increasing diagnoses of handicaps and mental illness and you have a situation most communities (i.e., everywhere but Beverly Hills) cannot afford, so "falling through the cracks" becomes the hoped for outcome many times.

    * Well, Unz, so there's that.

  94. @Anonymous
    As Steve said, Himmelstein is being eminently rational - trying to call him 'insane' or 'mad' just will not do. He's hit on a very cunning way to apparently 'legally' mug strangers in the street - and get clean away with it - and make, on average, 30 dollars per hour.
    30 dollars per hour for doing nothing but intimidating weaklings. As I said, eminently rational.

    Now here's a point. On these sites we read endless guff about 'low black IQ', but in this case just *who* is the fool? Himmelstein isn't.
    Not so much low black IQ, but inherent black unpleasantness, nastiness, selfishness and cunning - which apparently can run rings around prize 'high IQ' chumps like Merkel.

    “Not so much low black IQ, but inherent black unpleasantness, nastiness, selfishness and cunning…”

    No, that is decidedly not the case at all. Here is a primer on autism.

    https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism

  95. @Alice
    When I was a grad student at Cal in the late 90s-early 00s, it was typical for the psycho homeless on Euclid to try to accost people. No cop ever came by, no one ever turned them away. We were expected to ignore it. One particularly bad time was when a man wouldn't stop following me or screaming at me, mad that I was smoking and wouldn't give him a cig. I finally changed my path and abruptly stopped, putting another man between myself and the psycho. The man did nothing, but off the psycho went muttering after someone else.

    At that time, I often was down in Palo Alto. One day on University Ave. while standing and smoking, a homeless bum came up to me, probably to beg a cigarette. Before he said anything, a man in a suit walking down the street accosted him, bellowed at him to "Get the Hell away from her" and basically threw him half a block. It took me a minute to even realize I should say thank you, as I was so used to hurrying away rather than standing ground, and so shocked I was that he did Something, let alone For a Woman.

    Everything you need to about Cal vs Stanford and Berkeley vs Palo Alto was in those interchanges.

    Any real men left in NY? Why not?

    Any real men left in NY? Why not?

    They’re mostly in the outer boroughs, where surprisingly there are few hug thugs and cigarette bums.

  96. @AndrewR
    Perhaps you imagine a halcyon era in which valiant huwyte men went to battle against predatory negros to defend delicate huwyte women unknown to them.

    I'm rather doubtful this era ever existed.

    Personally I would probably call the police, and I would likely step in if it were a life threatening situation, but no I wouldn't confront a strange man simply for slugging a strange woman, nor would any wise man.

    Come on, the majority of bystanders would immediately get involved, and be willing to die, against some white guy in Texas Longhorns t-shirt standing off warning people not to accept Himmelstein’s offer because it might transmit AIDS.

  97. @Anonymous
    Totem Pole - the only and real explanation for modern America - again.

    In America, the only thing that trumps 'women' are 'blacks', so it's a black win.

    You have terrible observation skills. Any “person of color”, black or not, trumps women, as do gays and trannies.

  98. @Alice
    When I was a grad student at Cal in the late 90s-early 00s, it was typical for the psycho homeless on Euclid to try to accost people. No cop ever came by, no one ever turned them away. We were expected to ignore it. One particularly bad time was when a man wouldn't stop following me or screaming at me, mad that I was smoking and wouldn't give him a cig. I finally changed my path and abruptly stopped, putting another man between myself and the psycho. The man did nothing, but off the psycho went muttering after someone else.

    At that time, I often was down in Palo Alto. One day on University Ave. while standing and smoking, a homeless bum came up to me, probably to beg a cigarette. Before he said anything, a man in a suit walking down the street accosted him, bellowed at him to "Get the Hell away from her" and basically threw him half a block. It took me a minute to even realize I should say thank you, as I was so used to hurrying away rather than standing ground, and so shocked I was that he did Something, let alone For a Woman.

    Everything you need to about Cal vs Stanford and Berkeley vs Palo Alto was in those interchanges.

    Any real men left in NY? Why not?

    Perhaps they are aware that if they confront an abusive black/Hispanic person, other minorities will come to the aid of the abuser (see the video of the NYC cop and the free hugs guy), and they may soon be in the middle of an unfriendly crowd.

    Fellow whites will not help them, unless they are in law enforcement.

    That was the dynamic on the street when I lived in Manhattan many years ago, and in the Bronx when I worked there about 5 years ago. I doubt that things have changed.

  99. @Stephen R. Diamond

    This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women.
     
    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals.]

    Wrong, Tonto. Liberals went to court in the late 60s saying that being mentally ill was just a lifestyle choice, and that even if they were mentally ill, it was cruel to warehouse them when they could be re-integrated into society and get their meds at a community center, blah, blah, blah. The well-done but dishonest movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest had a great influence.

    Fully 1/3 of hospital beds in the 60s were in mental institutions, so states were happy to be rid of these people. And of course the community centers never materialized and even if they did, these guys (it was mostly guys) were too drunk or crazy or drugged to remember to go get their meds.

    And now we spend billions of dollars subsidizing the street life of crazies, druggies, and alcoholics. And the Left has another Compassion Club to beat Republicans with. Note that we have heard nothing about the homeless (or about Cindy Sheehan for that matter) since one January day in 2009. Homelessness will be a National Problem once again the day Trump is sworn in.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @cthulhu


    The well-done but dishonest movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest had a great influence.

     

    Without getting into the debate about how to treat the mentally ill, I agree with your characterization of the movie, because Kesey's book isn't really about mental illness or mental hospitals at all; that's all a metaphor describing Kesey's views on society. It comes across much more clearly in the book (and, I'm told, the play) because the book is first person narrated by the Chief, who really is mentally ill.

    Great book (whether you agree with it or not); mediocre at best movie. A showy but shallow performance from Nicholson to win the Oscar; something similar happened a decade later with Dustin Hoffman's similar type of performance in another mediocre-at-best movie about mental illness, Rain Man, which is perhaps the least realistic movie ever made about autism.
  100. @Spmoore8
    It's interesting that I saw a video today of a man beating a woman for 20 minutes in broad daylight in Philly and no one intervened. Such wisdom; shades of Kitty Genovese. Actually much worse.

    Not saying at my age I could actually stop such an attack. I could misdirect it. But wow I wouldn't just do nothing.

    That wasn’t a Kitty Genovese (largely debunked) situation.

    It’s Upper Kensington, which is now pretty uniformly Puerto Rican. They were just playing by Hood Rulez. There’s probably a back story about the man and the woman. It’s certainly possible that he’s a low level drug dealer, local tough type. If you intervene and beat him up, he’s going to escalate probably to guns at some point. If you live on that block or a block over, that’s a very substantial reduction in your individual quality of life. Assuming the likelihood that he’s beating a woman with whom he’s in some sort of intimate relationship, she’s going to remain with him anyway for more beatings and probably laugh at you for intervening. So, what, precisely, will have been won?

    Maybe fifty years ago when Kensington was uniformly working class white you would have had a group intervention to a situation like this in public. Things which may have happened in private would most likely have remained private for the most part.

    FWIW, this is very, very close in proximity to Murray’s “Fishtown.”

    In my view, the situation is different for a situation in which there’s an unprovoked attack by a stranger, where intervention is warranted. But I wouldn’t get involved in a dispute between intimates and particularly where the couple is not white.

  101. @Spmoore8
    It's interesting that I saw a video today of a man beating a woman for 20 minutes in broad daylight in Philly and no one intervened. Such wisdom; shades of Kitty Genovese. Actually much worse.

    Not saying at my age I could actually stop such an attack. I could misdirect it. But wow I wouldn't just do nothing.

    It’s interesting that I saw a video today of a man beating a woman for 20 minutes in broad daylight in Philly and no one intervened. Such wisdom; shades of Kitty Genovese. Actually much worse.

    I imagine today the Kitty Genovese case would not be an example the bystander effect in psychology, but would be about social homophobia and violence against the LGBT community because Genovese happened to be a lesbian and lived with her partner, Mary Ann Zielonko. What’s worse than doing nothing because of some bystander apathy? Doing nothing because of social homophobia because you are a horrible person and devalue people because of sexual orientation.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  102. @Stephen R. Diamond

    This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women.
     
    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals.]

    Oh, please. The mental hospitals began closing in NY state during the 1970’s because of the new fad in treatment of mental illness, motivated in part by disclosure in news reports of abusive conditions in the big facilities, the theory that these people would be better off in smaller residential settings, and the realization of the clowns in Albany (I speak of our state legislature) that they were spending the state into financial insolvency.

    I lived in Manhattan in the mid-late ’70’s and the fruits of the new policy were already clear from the huge numbers of mentally ill on the street.

    SRO’s (single room occupancy hotels) on the upper west side had to be protected from closure by law, because people were up in arms over the filth and random violence the unsupervised mentally ill brought with them . One very vivid incident, reported in the newspaper, involved the resident of SRO near Riverside Drive dropping a full paint can out of his upper-story window, in an attempt to hit a child in a baby carriage on the sidewalk below.
    He missed , but not by much, and was arrested.

    Now, tell me again when the “Reagan revolution” took place?

  103. There are tons of videos of this guy being violent in public.

    Perhaps some sunlight here might lead to sunlight elsewhere and accomplish some public good on behalf of New Yorkers.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    For an "autistic" guy this Jeremy/Jermaine sure seems to talk a lot.

    Autism used to be a pretty clear-cut diagnosis. "Autistic" meant someone who didn't speak if he could avoid it and who shied away from physical contact, along with obsessive and repetitive behavior of an a-social or anti-social nature. When they could be tested, autistics had decent IQs for handicapped people.

    This guy seems to be about the opposite. Talks a lot, stands in a crowded park with a sign seeking physical contact fer cryin' out loud, and pretty deficient thought processes. Much more likely he's just kinda retarded and violent. But "autistic" is a somewhat more exotic and classier diagnosis, so maybe some doctor up-diagnosed him so as not to appear racist, which seems to be everyone's Prime Directive nowadays.
  104. @Steve Sailer
    I saw black motorcycle gangs roar by in Chicago in the 1980s and 1990s, maybe up to three dozen at once.

    My impression is that motorcycle gangs tend to be guys who were in the military, come home, and find civilian life dull. They're a nuisance, but they're less trouble in America than the freikorps of ex-soldiers were in Germany after the Great War. Motorcycle gang members tend to be older and richer than street gang members, so they're fewer in number and thus are a less pervasive problem.

    There used to be a club yclept the Black Unicorns, in Manhattan. Their HQ was in a storefront on …Frederick Douglas Blvd.(?)…anyway, just north of 110th Street. The storefront had a block wall with some openings in it (gunports? don’t know) just inside the plateglass storefront.

    These fellas differed from the white gangs, in that they rode Jap bikes mainly, not Harleys, and felt free to drag race , on wheelie-bar equipped bikes, on the street.

    I rode through their area many times, and was never bothered, possibly because I kept my helmet visor down (always keep your visor down in Sherwood Forest) so I was never spotted as The White Man.

    Don’t recall any Hispanic bike gangs at the time, although the Savage Skulls and Los Sucios (the Dirty Ones) dressed like bikers (Denim vests with colors, etc.) had really mean reputations.

  105. @Stephen R. Diamond

    This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women.
     
    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals.]

    De-institutionalization of the mentally ill was the pet project of liberal Supreme Court Justices, the ACLU and Latino-supremacist and soldier-back-stabber Gerry (“Geraldo”) Rivera, beginning in the late 1960’s, long before Reagan arrived in DC.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    Also Thomas Szasz, who was against civil commitment. He was not, however, opposed to prison for criminals. The problem was the simultaneous move away from civil commitment and leniency in sentencing or even prosecuting crime. Larry Hogue was a career criminal.
    , @Brutusale
    Mental hospitals?! We don't need no steenking mental hospitals. Pretty much every deviant behavior has been mainstreamed in the past 10 years.
  106. TB2 says:
    @SPMoore8
    Hugs probably hasn't been stopped because superficially he's a triple counter: black, Jewish, and autistic. Realistically he should be incarcerated, or his parents should be held accountable for his conduct (i.e., keeping him at home.)

    It shouldn't have been allowed to get to this point, but I am pretty sure that if nothing is done someone is going to get seriously hurt, and not necessarily some lass refusing his embrace.

    And because his victims are almost certainly white and other non-blacks. He’s a manifestation of the system’s white-hating racism. Deal with the system not the symptoms. How long would he have lasted 75 years ago? He’s also YET ANOTHER refreshing counterbalance to liberal nonsense about how de po’ black man, he be shuffle into prison at the drop of de hat, for no reason ‘cept racmism ‘n she-e-et!

  107. This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your “Reagan revolution” dismantled the country’s psychiatric hospitals.]

    And you liberals have been fighting tooth and nail to raise awareness and restore the mental hospitals ever since. /sarc

    You don’t have to stand and watch or turn your back because women are supposedly not worth it anymore. Good Lord.

    My response depends on the environment. In NYC, I’d turn my back because New Yorkers aren’t worth it. White Knighting for anyone in a place like that is off the table for me.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    ¿Would you act the caballero blanco for Amy Schumer in deepest Carolina del Sur?
  108. OT: The latest travails of Genius T Coates. He feels “unsafe” in his $2.1 million Brooklyn crib. Even some blacks are laughing at him.

    He bought the place with proceeds from the sale of his book! Who knew there were that many stupid people?

    http://heatst.com/culture-wars/poverty-expert-ta-nehisi-coates-bails-on-newly-purchased-2-1-million-home-after-media-attention/?mod=sm_tw_post

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Only T Genius could squeeze oppression out of a $2 Million brownstone. Time for the "Hard out there for a Pimp" medley ending with a stirring rendition of "I Got Plenty of Nuttin'"

    The article is amusing on its own: TNC is "a prominent thought-leader" whose book "was one of the most discussed [...] in the country among university faculty members and New York Times subscribers." Yeah, that about sums it up.
    , @Bob123
    "Thought leader"! LOL

    "Coates has become a prominent thought-leader in part due to the success of his 2015 memoir, “Between the World and Me,” a letter to his son about the history of racial injustice in America."
  109. @Anonymous
    Himmelstein openly and brazenly commits the offence of 'assault and battery' on the streets of New York City.
    I don't know what the legal situation in New York is, but in England, 'assault' as defined in common law means to put an individual in the immediate apprehension that they will be receiving a physical attack - not - as generally understood by the layman as being the actual physical attack itself, which is defined as 'battery'.
    Both crimes either committed singly or together are punishable by a heavy custodial sentence.

    We've heard so much about 'zero tolerance', 'broken windows' 'three strikes and you're out' Rudolf Giuliani and his penal incarceration policies etc, but somehow, the living embodiment of all this, Himmelstein, gets away scot free. Surely savvy cops and prosecutors could have out him away for a long time.

    And there's also his misleading advertising. I don't know about the USA, but in England, under various acts, this is actually a criminal and not civil offence.

    Giuliani was term-limited out many years ago, and his crime policies (which had an amazing revitalizing effect on the city) have fallen into disuse.

  110. $1 to $5 per hug in only three years – 400% inflation!

  111. There needs to be a big tough white guy with sign that says ……”will punch Negro hug guy for $5″

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Something tells me "Punch Guy" would be a lot more popular than "Hug Thug".

    In all of this, people need some common sense. A black dude (or dudes, the video suggests that Hug Thug had a backup) arguing with some frightened white girl tourists, no brainer you should interfere. And it has nothing to do with being a hero or being a stud. Just halfway decent.

    As for domestic violence disputes, I agree, but 20 minutes is about 19 minutes too long to wait to call the police. Having said that, I've broken up domestic disputes on my street just by going outside and asking, "What the hell is going on over there?" We need to internalize a bit more the notion of "brother's keeper" and/or "whom the bell tolls", assuming anyone encounters either of those phrases in modern K-12 education.
  112. @Harry Baldwin
    What do they charge for a hug?

    My guess the price would be about $30-50 for a hug and a discreet squeeze, if they could get away with it.
    So far, they can’t…not in broad daylight, anyway.

  113. This being Manhattan, I”m amazed that nobody has called this a performance piece meant to start a conversation about the intersection of privilege, gender, race, and traditional notions of boundaries and public space.

  114. @AndrewR
    Perhaps you imagine a halcyon era in which valiant huwyte men went to battle against predatory negros to defend delicate huwyte women unknown to them.

    I'm rather doubtful this era ever existed.

    Personally I would probably call the police, and I would likely step in if it were a life threatening situation, but no I wouldn't confront a strange man simply for slugging a strange woman, nor would any wise man.

    Altercations between men and women in public are often part of some chaotic relationship problem. Getting involved is a waste of time.

    But…

    At one time one could be sure that a black man, white woman altercation was not in this category and thus one could intervene on her side.

  115. @Jim Don Bob
    OT: The latest travails of Genius T Coates. He feels "unsafe" in his $2.1 million Brooklyn crib. Even some blacks are laughing at him.

    He bought the place with proceeds from the sale of his book! Who knew there were that many stupid people?

    http://heatst.com/culture-wars/poverty-expert-ta-nehisi-coates-bails-on-newly-purchased-2-1-million-home-after-media-attention/?mod=sm_tw_post

    Only T Genius could squeeze oppression out of a $2 Million brownstone. Time for the “Hard out there for a Pimp” medley ending with a stirring rendition of “I Got Plenty of Nuttin’”

    The article is amusing on its own: TNC is “a prominent thought-leader” whose book “was one of the most discussed […] in the country among university faculty members and New York Times subscribers.” Yeah, that about sums it up.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I'd be willing to bet that the majority of Coates' book sales were to school and libraries. I would not be at all surprised to learn that it is being taught in schools right along side Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman and all the other blacks who made America great.
  116. @Anonymous
    I am continually astonished at the combination of naivete and moral arrogance that White women exhibit. Hugging a Black male stranger on the street and expecting no problems...

    I am continually astonished at the combination of naivete and moral arrogance that White women exhibit. Hugging a Black male stranger on the street and expecting no problems…

    Well, either that or they don’t want to appear to be rayyycis.

  117. @Smitty
    There needs to be a big tough white guy with sign that says ......"will punch Negro hug guy for $5"

    Something tells me “Punch Guy” would be a lot more popular than “Hug Thug”.

    In all of this, people need some common sense. A black dude (or dudes, the video suggests that Hug Thug had a backup) arguing with some frightened white girl tourists, no brainer you should interfere. And it has nothing to do with being a hero or being a stud. Just halfway decent.

    As for domestic violence disputes, I agree, but 20 minutes is about 19 minutes too long to wait to call the police. Having said that, I’ve broken up domestic disputes on my street just by going outside and asking, “What the hell is going on over there?” We need to internalize a bit more the notion of “brother’s keeper” and/or “whom the bell tolls”, assuming anyone encounters either of those phrases in modern K-12 education.

    • Replies: @Sean
    In London the professional street scammers employ lookouts who can act as back up and punch you out if you push it. The very large black man in the video who restrains Himmelstein seems to fit the bill . However he may just be a bystander, or a regular lounge in the square who Himmelstein keeps in with. I'm dubious he could make the thing work unless he had good interpersonal skill and eye contact and judging from the videos, he does not strike me as autistic at all, as he talks pretty good to explain his problems as the work of racists. Schizotypal personality disorder would be my bet.

    Anyway I think many men have got into an altercation with Himmelstein over his behaviour, then got accused of racism and found him to have acquaintances including some fellow with arms like legs.

  118. @SPMoore8
    Only T Genius could squeeze oppression out of a $2 Million brownstone. Time for the "Hard out there for a Pimp" medley ending with a stirring rendition of "I Got Plenty of Nuttin'"

    The article is amusing on its own: TNC is "a prominent thought-leader" whose book "was one of the most discussed [...] in the country among university faculty members and New York Times subscribers." Yeah, that about sums it up.

    I’d be willing to bet that the majority of Coates’ book sales were to school and libraries. I would not be at all surprised to learn that it is being taught in schools right along side Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman and all the other blacks who made America great.

  119. @SPMoore8
    You are correct, "Himmelstein" is a German name, as are many Ashkenazi surnames, that's why I said superficially. On the other hand, he could be Jewish. He could also be Czech, inasmuch as there's a Himmelstein Castle in today's "Czechia" (note the Slavic spelling), which means the name is very old: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Himl%C5%A1tejn

    Although in fairness looking around for people with the Himmelstein monicker has mostly turned up persons who appear to be Jewish, including a Lithuanian (!) Jewish woman who invented the plus sized clothing chain Lane Bryant.

    I guess these arguments about Hug Thug's heritage won't get really intense until he wins a Nobel. I can wait.

    Why the exclamatory reaction to a Lithuanian Jewish woman bearing the name Himmelstein? The Lithuanian Jews spoke Yiddish, which has a mostly German vocabulary.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    The exclamation point was merely to focus on yet another nationality (here, Lithuanian) who could be blamed for Himmelstein, to go along with the Jewish, German and Czech component. I know about the Litvakers, but actually there was a large German German component in the Baltic, also. Poland, too, for that matter: a name like "Szulc" is just "Schultz" in Slavic spelling. But that gets us into issues of assimilation and nationality, etc. etc.
  120. @Corvinus
    "Emptying the nut houses" was a nationwide initiative in the 1960's and 1970's amid several in-depth reports, including an investigation in the early 1970's by Geraldo Rivera in Pittsburgh, that exposed the conditions of state mental health hospitals. There was the assumption that by reorganizing these treatment facilities, combined with funding by communities, that the mentally ill would not be merely "warehoused", but afforded opportunities to alleviate their symptoms in a humane matter.

    Ken Kesey, Thomas Szasz, Michel Foucault, and numerous psychological experiments that showed that the criteria for defining mental illness and then treating it in various gruesome ways were completely arbitrary was also a part of the mix. In other words, “emptying out the asylums” wasn’t just a cruel rightwing cost cutting stunt, it was also a left wing libertarian cause. One which I generally agree with, as a matter of fact.

    However, if someone physically assaults several people over 3 years, that person needs to be taken off the streets. Period. I don’t care how neurologically atypical he is. You just can’t have people engaging in physical violence without sanction. For one thing, he may get worse over time. For another thing, someone might decide to take the law into their own hands. This is what we have law enforcement for.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @anon

    However, if someone physically assaults several people over 3 years, that person needs to be taken off the streets.
     
    You're right but there's nowhere to put them.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "cruel rightwing cost cutting stunt"
     
    I guess you're not reading any of your reply comments. Prominent figures emptying asylums: notorious rightwingers Robert Kennedy (D-NY), Geraldo Rivera, and (pre-conviction) Mario Biaggi (D-NY).

    But, by all means, keep blaming Reagan.
  121. @Danindc
    Not surprising. It usually hurts when weakness is revealed.

    Just to repeat - this black thug was brutalizing this young Canadian woman Sophie Violene Dauvois on the street in NYC- if you saw this and decided not my problem, you just can't call yourself a man. My assumption is that since your name is Andrew, you are a man. If I'm mistaken, my apologies obviously.

    How many women has your white knighting got you?

    • Replies: @Danindc
    I guarantee more than your cowardice has gotten you.
    , @anon
    Two kinds of white knight: one kind pretends to be a good guy to get sex; the other kind has to refuse gratitude sex - which is a thing - or the knighting doesn't count.
  122. @CommentGuy
    There are tons of videos of this guy being violent in public.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I93PNLwCePw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f5j_L7-aJM

    Perhaps some sunlight here might lead to sunlight elsewhere and accomplish some public good on behalf of New Yorkers.

    For an “autistic” guy this Jeremy/Jermaine sure seems to talk a lot.

    Autism used to be a pretty clear-cut diagnosis. “Autistic” meant someone who didn’t speak if he could avoid it and who shied away from physical contact, along with obsessive and repetitive behavior of an a-social or anti-social nature. When they could be tested, autistics had decent IQs for handicapped people.

    This guy seems to be about the opposite. Talks a lot, stands in a crowded park with a sign seeking physical contact fer cryin’ out loud, and pretty deficient thought processes. Much more likely he’s just kinda retarded and violent. But “autistic” is a somewhat more exotic and classier diagnosis, so maybe some doctor up-diagnosed him so as not to appear racist, which seems to be everyone’s Prime Directive nowadays.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Asperger syndrome is now folded into Autism Spectrum Disorder and overlaps with high-functioning autism. People with Asperger's can be early talkers and have been described as "little professors."
  123. the big homogenizing machine that is the state, can’t deal with “non-standard” cases. this is one thing “traditional” societies are more efficient with dealing with. it’s the same thing with “stalking” of females etc.
    the problem is not how to get justice, the problem is how to get it “in circumvention” of the state, because it protects the bad guys, too

  124. @anon
    I've done it hundreds of times (not just white and black).

    When it is white/black you'll often get white SJWs screaming at you so that does put you off and I didn't do it a few times cos of that - which still grinds me when i'm reminded.

    Sometimes there's too many - one in particular when a (black) girl was being beaten to a pulp by a black guy but his gang were hanging back by a wall waiting for him to finish and i knew i didn't have a chance - still bugs me though. If I'd had a gun on me I would have.

    “Hundreds of times”? Seriously dude?

    If you’re for real, let’s hear about it.

    • Replies: @anon
    There are places where situations like that arise 4-5 times a week.

    If you live anywhere urban you've probably driven past a bunch without even noticing as it's often only body language tells you like a couple walking along with the guy holding the woman at the back of the neck and she's not doing anything obvious but her body language is off cos he's got a knife.

    Obviously you need to have grown up in one of those places or worked in them to know cos the media are such lying filth.
  125. @Steve Sailer
    I first read about bag ladies in reference to Diane Keaton's styles in 1977's "Annie Hall." I can recall being confused by the term because I was unfamiliar with the idea of older women being homeless. Before 1977 it wasn't a thing.

    “My grammy never gave gifts. She was too busy getting raped by Cossacks.”

    • Replies: @Sean
    I would like to know how many naive young women Himmelstein has tried (maybe succeeded in) shepherding to a quiet spot and having sex with. It will only take one to come forward an make a complaint as a result of this publicity and there will be a deluge I suspect.
  126. @SPMoore8
    Ken Kesey, Thomas Szasz, Michel Foucault, and numerous psychological experiments that showed that the criteria for defining mental illness and then treating it in various gruesome ways were completely arbitrary was also a part of the mix. In other words, "emptying out the asylums" wasn't just a cruel rightwing cost cutting stunt, it was also a left wing libertarian cause. One which I generally agree with, as a matter of fact.

    However, if someone physically assaults several people over 3 years, that person needs to be taken off the streets. Period. I don't care how neurologically atypical he is. You just can't have people engaging in physical violence without sanction. For one thing, he may get worse over time. For another thing, someone might decide to take the law into their own hands. This is what we have law enforcement for.

    However, if someone physically assaults several people over 3 years, that person needs to be taken off the streets.

    You’re right but there’s nowhere to put them.

  127. @Johnny Smoggins
    I've seen all kinds of crazy homeless people; White ones tend to curse and mutter to themselves, blacks seem to run around waving their arms, scream and are much more confrontational. Must be the lack of self control aspect.

    I used to work at a home and workshop for handicapped people. One of the interesting HBD aspects was that the various handicapped residents often seemed to show ethnically stereotyped behavior to a very exaggerated degree.

    For example, the white Yankee guys were obsessive about organization and scheduling, picked up trash they didn’t drop and made sure the recycling was done to a “t”. Black women loved loud music and attention and were generally warm-hearted. Jewish guys were clever and often surprisingly sophisticated about getting what they wanted and often had savant-ish, Rain-Man talents. Latino: bravado and interest in females. Black guys were violent and sexually aggressive and exhibitionistic.

    One might almost say that stripped of their higher cognitive functions, the residents became ethnic self-caricatures. That experience went some way in convincing me that HBD is hardwired in at a pretty basic level.

  128. @Corvinus
    "Emptying the nut houses" was a nationwide initiative in the 1960's and 1970's amid several in-depth reports, including an investigation in the early 1970's by Geraldo Rivera in Pittsburgh, that exposed the conditions of state mental health hospitals. There was the assumption that by reorganizing these treatment facilities, combined with funding by communities, that the mentally ill would not be merely "warehoused", but afforded opportunities to alleviate their symptoms in a humane matter.

    Actually, the institutions that Gerry “Geraldo” Rivera publicized were in New York. The famous/infamous one was Willowbrook on Staten Island, which was also the largest such institution in the world at the time.

    Incidentally, after all the the newsmongering, speechifying, legislating and litigating was over, the price tag for the “humane” alternative to Willowbrooks is currently about $70,000/person/year, which is about the same cost as sending every handicapped/mentally ill person to Harvard … forever. Except there won’t be any scientific, artistic or social breakthroughs coming out of these “Harvard” students any time soon. (Not that the actual Harvard has had much to brag about recently either,* but at least their invoices stop at four years.)

    Needless to say, combine a $70k/year/head price tag that only goes up, with ever increasing diagnoses of handicaps and mental illness and you have a situation most communities (i.e., everywhere but Beverly Hills) cannot afford, so “falling through the cracks” becomes the hoped for outcome many times.

    * Well, Unz, so there’s that.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    You're correct, it was New York. Good catch on your part.
  129. @Dave Pinsen
    "My grammy never gave gifts. She was too busy getting raped by Cossacks."

    I would like to know how many naive young women Himmelstein has tried (maybe succeeded in) shepherding to a quiet spot and having sex with. It will only take one to come forward an make a complaint as a result of this publicity and there will be a deluge I suspect.

  130. @MC
    Himmelstein?

    He’s from the Deep South of Israel.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "He’s from the Deep South of Israel."

    Southern Israelis like Jermaine Himmelstein are more swarthy than Northern Israelis. There needs to be a True Romance sequel where this time it is Southern Israelis who were spawned by N Words, lol.

  131. @SPMoore8
    Ken Kesey, Thomas Szasz, Michel Foucault, and numerous psychological experiments that showed that the criteria for defining mental illness and then treating it in various gruesome ways were completely arbitrary was also a part of the mix. In other words, "emptying out the asylums" wasn't just a cruel rightwing cost cutting stunt, it was also a left wing libertarian cause. One which I generally agree with, as a matter of fact.

    However, if someone physically assaults several people over 3 years, that person needs to be taken off the streets. Period. I don't care how neurologically atypical he is. You just can't have people engaging in physical violence without sanction. For one thing, he may get worse over time. For another thing, someone might decide to take the law into their own hands. This is what we have law enforcement for.

    “cruel rightwing cost cutting stunt”

    I guess you’re not reading any of your reply comments. Prominent figures emptying asylums: notorious rightwingers Robert Kennedy (D-NY), Geraldo Rivera, and (pre-conviction) Mario Biaggi (D-NY).

    But, by all means, keep blaming Reagan.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    I am not "blaming Reagan": I am saying that there were reasons for cutting back on mental health funding (beginning when he was governor of CA) that were not driven solely by a desire to balance the budget. It was a bipartisan activity. It did, however, create a lot of street people.

    I am not sure what the solution is. Crazy people and homeless on the street are a nuisance. But locking them up in a facility and permanently drugging them doesn't seem very useful either. But if they are violent: that's what lockups are for. As with most things in life, balance is called for.

    And I read all the pushback in the comments, and respond if I think I can without being too self indulgent. This is your first reply to me on this thread.
  132. I’m surprised you’re not all over the story about the country’s most oppressed black body somehow being able to buy a Brooklyn brownstone for $2.1 million, then deciding not to live in it because of unspecified threats.

    I can see it now, Steve Sailer: The Musical — H-1B visa holding teachers at a Gulen-owned charter school that just converted its restrooms to transgender-compliant invite Ta Coates to speak.

  133. Sean says:
    @SPMoore8
    Something tells me "Punch Guy" would be a lot more popular than "Hug Thug".

    In all of this, people need some common sense. A black dude (or dudes, the video suggests that Hug Thug had a backup) arguing with some frightened white girl tourists, no brainer you should interfere. And it has nothing to do with being a hero or being a stud. Just halfway decent.

    As for domestic violence disputes, I agree, but 20 minutes is about 19 minutes too long to wait to call the police. Having said that, I've broken up domestic disputes on my street just by going outside and asking, "What the hell is going on over there?" We need to internalize a bit more the notion of "brother's keeper" and/or "whom the bell tolls", assuming anyone encounters either of those phrases in modern K-12 education.

    In London the professional street scammers employ lookouts who can act as back up and punch you out if you push it. The very large black man in the video who restrains Himmelstein seems to fit the bill . However he may just be a bystander, or a regular lounge in the square who Himmelstein keeps in with. I’m dubious he could make the thing work unless he had good interpersonal skill and eye contact and judging from the videos, he does not strike me as autistic at all, as he talks pretty good to explain his problems as the work of racists. Schizotypal personality disorder would be my bet.

    Anyway I think many men have got into an altercation with Himmelstein over his behaviour, then got accused of racism and found him to have acquaintances including some fellow with arms like legs.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    ABC Channel Seven New York has a bird's-eye view of the attack from an EarthCam camera HERE. No team, just Mr. Himmelstein. I like your diagnosis of Schizotypal Personality Disorder. Mr. Himmelstein seems to display relatively "good judgement" by only attacking persons unlikely to physically respond to him. There are plenty of videos, pictures, and even a current "mini" editorial with Mr. Himmelstein as the subject at "Normal" Bob Smith's blog, which makes me agree with The Sage of Bakersfield, Mr. Buck Owens.
  134. @Almost Missouri
    De-institutionalization of the mentally ill was the pet project of liberal Supreme Court Justices, the ACLU and Latino-supremacist and soldier-back-stabber Gerry ("Geraldo") Rivera, beginning in the late 1960's, long before Reagan arrived in DC.

    Also Thomas Szasz, who was against civil commitment. He was not, however, opposed to prison for criminals. The problem was the simultaneous move away from civil commitment and leniency in sentencing or even prosecuting crime. Larry Hogue was a career criminal.

  135. I just checked with my rabbi: Jermaine Himmelstein is not up to date with his AIPAC dues. So y’all can have at him.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    I just checked with my rabbi: Jermaine Himmelstein is not up to date with his AIPAC dues. So y’all can have at him.

    HImmelstein is just performing Tikkun Olam in his own iconic way.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Hilarious! Props.
  136. @Jim Don Bob
    OT: The latest travails of Genius T Coates. He feels "unsafe" in his $2.1 million Brooklyn crib. Even some blacks are laughing at him.

    He bought the place with proceeds from the sale of his book! Who knew there were that many stupid people?

    http://heatst.com/culture-wars/poverty-expert-ta-nehisi-coates-bails-on-newly-purchased-2-1-million-home-after-media-attention/?mod=sm_tw_post

    “Thought leader”! LOL

    “Coates has become a prominent thought-leader in part due to the success of his 2015 memoir, “Between the World and Me,” a letter to his son about the history of racial injustice in America.”

  137. @Anonymous
    Why the exclamatory reaction to a Lithuanian Jewish woman bearing the name Himmelstein? The Lithuanian Jews spoke Yiddish, which has a mostly German vocabulary.

    The exclamation point was merely to focus on yet another nationality (here, Lithuanian) who could be blamed for Himmelstein, to go along with the Jewish, German and Czech component. I know about the Litvakers, but actually there was a large German German component in the Baltic, also. Poland, too, for that matter: a name like “Szulc” is just “Schultz” in Slavic spelling. But that gets us into issues of assimilation and nationality, etc. etc.

  138. @Almost Missouri

    "cruel rightwing cost cutting stunt"
     
    I guess you're not reading any of your reply comments. Prominent figures emptying asylums: notorious rightwingers Robert Kennedy (D-NY), Geraldo Rivera, and (pre-conviction) Mario Biaggi (D-NY).

    But, by all means, keep blaming Reagan.

    I am not “blaming Reagan”: I am saying that there were reasons for cutting back on mental health funding (beginning when he was governor of CA) that were not driven solely by a desire to balance the budget. It was a bipartisan activity. It did, however, create a lot of street people.

    I am not sure what the solution is. Crazy people and homeless on the street are a nuisance. But locking them up in a facility and permanently drugging them doesn’t seem very useful either. But if they are violent: that’s what lockups are for. As with most things in life, balance is called for.

    And I read all the pushback in the comments, and respond if I think I can without being too self indulgent. This is your first reply to me on this thread.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "I am not sure what the solution is. Crazy people and homeless on the street are a nuisance. But locking them up in a facility and permanently drugging them doesn’t seem very useful either. But if they are violent: that’s what lockups are for. As with most things in life, balance is called for."
     
    Yes, and as I mentioned in other comments, institutionalization is expensive. Very expensive. I think people don't realize how much it costs to run these parallel worlds (for that's what institutions are). People just want to wave problems into institutions, and let the cost go into some ledger they assume does not affect them personally. But it all comes back eventually.

    The cost of institutionalization is of the same order as the cost of high-end college, but without a graduation date. Considered strictly economically, much modern college education produces nothing of value. It is wasted investment. We are reaching the point now where the debt for many college degrees will never be paid off by the increased earning power that the degree confers. "Peak college"? Some of the education system is already a drag on productivity.

    Likewise, institutionalization is guaranteed to produce nothing of value. On the other hand, it may prevent even greater evils, so it may still be desirable, it's just that those prevented evils have to be pretty bad to justify the enormous cost of preventing them.

    Fortunately for the institutions, modern society seems to be getting ever better at producing depraved individuals who are worth the expense of locking up. But eventually, as the depravity multiplies and cost of locking it up spirals upward, we simply will not be able to afford the prevention costs of the depravity we engender and we have to either 1) accept less humane but cheaper forms of prevention, which will delay but not cancel the date of final reckoning, or 2) stop producing so much depravity. "Peak depravity"?
  139. @U. Ranus
    You know that old saw about how it's better to teach the poor to fish, than to just give them fish?

    I guess it applies here as well. If you see a girl grappling with diversity, you don't help her right away, that's like giving her fish.

    So what you do when you see she's got herself into Black trouble, you catch her eye as you walk past and say, "You shoulda voted Trump!"

    Trump 20:16 “Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Deport him, and you won’t have to feed him or his anchor babies ever again.”

  140. @AndrewR
    How many women has your white knighting got you?

    I guarantee more than your cowardice has gotten you.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Lol. Prudence and cowardice are not identical, despite the delusions of the foolhardy. But keep letting that hate out, champ.
  141. @Steve Sailer
    I first read about bag ladies in reference to Diane Keaton's styles in 1977's "Annie Hall." I can recall being confused by the term because I was unfamiliar with the idea of older women being homeless. Before 1977 it wasn't a thing.

    Bag ladies, not “bad”

  142. @International Jew
    I just checked with my rabbi: Jermaine Himmelstein is not up to date with his AIPAC dues. So y'all can have at him.

    I just checked with my rabbi: Jermaine Himmelstein is not up to date with his AIPAC dues. So y’all can have at him.

    HImmelstein is just performing Tikkun Olam in his own iconic way.

  143. @Danindc
    I guarantee more than your cowardice has gotten you.

    Lol. Prudence and cowardice are not identical, despite the delusions of the foolhardy. But keep letting that hate out, champ.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    I don't hate people I pity. I guess you could say I pity the excessively prudent....
  144. @Corvinus
    "Hugs probably hasn’t been stopped because superficially he’s a triple counter: black, Jewish, and autistic."

    And the most important thing here is that he is autistic. To what degree the article does not say.
    Clearly he is not normal.

    "Realistically he should be incarcerated, or his parents should be held accountable for his conduct (i.e., keeping him at home.)"

    Actually, he has every legal right to be on a street and hold a sign. Unfortunately, only until he commits a crime is he able to be incarcerated. To complicate matters, he is viewed as an adult when it comes to mental illness laws, and therefore has the liberty to accept or reject treatment. If and when he is arrested, a judge could order a competency hearing to determine to what extent is he a danger to himself and others, and order, based on his findings, mandatory counseling.

    If you’d read more carefully, you’d have seen that the guy has been arrested multiple times.

  145. @schmenz
    He's from the Deep South of Israel.

    “He’s from the Deep South of Israel.”

    Southern Israelis like Jermaine Himmelstein are more swarthy than Northern Israelis. There needs to be a True Romance sequel where this time it is Southern Israelis who were spawned by N Words, lol.

  146. @SPMoore8
    I am not "blaming Reagan": I am saying that there were reasons for cutting back on mental health funding (beginning when he was governor of CA) that were not driven solely by a desire to balance the budget. It was a bipartisan activity. It did, however, create a lot of street people.

    I am not sure what the solution is. Crazy people and homeless on the street are a nuisance. But locking them up in a facility and permanently drugging them doesn't seem very useful either. But if they are violent: that's what lockups are for. As with most things in life, balance is called for.

    And I read all the pushback in the comments, and respond if I think I can without being too self indulgent. This is your first reply to me on this thread.

    “I am not sure what the solution is. Crazy people and homeless on the street are a nuisance. But locking them up in a facility and permanently drugging them doesn’t seem very useful either. But if they are violent: that’s what lockups are for. As with most things in life, balance is called for.”

    Yes, and as I mentioned in other comments, institutionalization is expensive. Very expensive. I think people don’t realize how much it costs to run these parallel worlds (for that’s what institutions are). People just want to wave problems into institutions, and let the cost go into some ledger they assume does not affect them personally. But it all comes back eventually.

    The cost of institutionalization is of the same order as the cost of high-end college, but without a graduation date. Considered strictly economically, much modern college education produces nothing of value. It is wasted investment. We are reaching the point now where the debt for many college degrees will never be paid off by the increased earning power that the degree confers. “Peak college”? Some of the education system is already a drag on productivity.

    Likewise, institutionalization is guaranteed to produce nothing of value. On the other hand, it may prevent even greater evils, so it may still be desirable, it’s just that those prevented evils have to be pretty bad to justify the enormous cost of preventing them.

    Fortunately for the institutions, modern society seems to be getting ever better at producing depraved individuals who are worth the expense of locking up. But eventually, as the depravity multiplies and cost of locking it up spirals upward, we simply will not be able to afford the prevention costs of the depravity we engender and we have to either 1) accept less humane but cheaper forms of prevention, which will delay but not cancel the date of final reckoning, or 2) stop producing so much depravity. “Peak depravity”?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Maybe the Hug Thug should have been stuck with a GPS ankle monitor at all times?
  147. @Sean
    In London the professional street scammers employ lookouts who can act as back up and punch you out if you push it. The very large black man in the video who restrains Himmelstein seems to fit the bill . However he may just be a bystander, or a regular lounge in the square who Himmelstein keeps in with. I'm dubious he could make the thing work unless he had good interpersonal skill and eye contact and judging from the videos, he does not strike me as autistic at all, as he talks pretty good to explain his problems as the work of racists. Schizotypal personality disorder would be my bet.

    Anyway I think many men have got into an altercation with Himmelstein over his behaviour, then got accused of racism and found him to have acquaintances including some fellow with arms like legs.

    ABC Channel Seven New York has a bird’s-eye view of the attack from an EarthCam camera HERE. No team, just Mr. Himmelstein. I like your diagnosis of Schizotypal Personality Disorder. Mr. Himmelstein seems to display relatively “good judgement” by only attacking persons unlikely to physically respond to him. There are plenty of videos, pictures, and even a current “mini” editorial with Mr. Himmelstein as the subject at “Normal” Bob Smith’s blog, which makes me agree with The Sage of Bakersfield, Mr. Buck Owens.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    I don't think he's going to get away with it, this time. He circled and cased the joint and came back and popped her. Plus, she's a foreigner (Canadian) and that's not good for tourism. Meanwhile, he's much more alert and articulate than some ex-cons I know. He really needs to go to prison for awhile.

    According to the NY law, which I consulted before writing this, Hug Thug seems clearly guilty of a Class D felony assault. This can result in a prison sentence of 3-7 years. However, it can also result in probation. There's also a Class A misdemeanor version that might fit the facts, the penalties are much less. However, given his history of assaulting women, I think the just solution would be to go for the max Felony D penalty.
  148. @Almost Missouri

    "I am not sure what the solution is. Crazy people and homeless on the street are a nuisance. But locking them up in a facility and permanently drugging them doesn’t seem very useful either. But if they are violent: that’s what lockups are for. As with most things in life, balance is called for."
     
    Yes, and as I mentioned in other comments, institutionalization is expensive. Very expensive. I think people don't realize how much it costs to run these parallel worlds (for that's what institutions are). People just want to wave problems into institutions, and let the cost go into some ledger they assume does not affect them personally. But it all comes back eventually.

    The cost of institutionalization is of the same order as the cost of high-end college, but without a graduation date. Considered strictly economically, much modern college education produces nothing of value. It is wasted investment. We are reaching the point now where the debt for many college degrees will never be paid off by the increased earning power that the degree confers. "Peak college"? Some of the education system is already a drag on productivity.

    Likewise, institutionalization is guaranteed to produce nothing of value. On the other hand, it may prevent even greater evils, so it may still be desirable, it's just that those prevented evils have to be pretty bad to justify the enormous cost of preventing them.

    Fortunately for the institutions, modern society seems to be getting ever better at producing depraved individuals who are worth the expense of locking up. But eventually, as the depravity multiplies and cost of locking it up spirals upward, we simply will not be able to afford the prevention costs of the depravity we engender and we have to either 1) accept less humane but cheaper forms of prevention, which will delay but not cancel the date of final reckoning, or 2) stop producing so much depravity. "Peak depravity"?

    Maybe the Hug Thug should have been stuck with a GPS ankle monitor at all times?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Ankle bracelets may be a good idea, and much cheaper idea in many cases. I don't have any direct experience with them, so I can't comment on it specifically.

    In general I can say that another by-product of the reaction against the Willwobrook-era system is that there is now a thick matting of regulations, customs and precedents that tend to stifle anything other than the $70k/year option. Combine that with the fact that the suppliers of the $70k/yr option have become an entrenched interest of their own—an interest that not only lobbies but can wrap itself in the holy mantle of charity work, and is paid for by people who don't realize they are paying for it and therefore don't object—and you have a pretty formidable political force sucking "clients" into its gullet. It's not insurmountable to establish an alternative, but it's not a lay-up either.
    , @Corvinus
    "Maybe the Hug Thug should have been stuck with a GPS ankle monitor at all times?"

    How do you propose to tackle this issue in light of constitutional protections for the mentally ill?


    "It’s expensive to keep individuals with a less severe track record locked up year after year, but it’s irresponsible to the public safety just to let them go unheeded."

    Damn that Supreme Court.

    Jackson v. Indiana (1970)

    Due process requires that the nature and duration of commitment bear some reasonable relation to the purpose for which the individual is committed.” Reasoning that if commitment is for treatment and betterment of individuals, it must be accompanied by adequate treatment, several lower courts recognized a due process right.

    O'Connor v. Donaldson (1975)

    A finding of mental illness alone is not sufficient grounds for confining a person against their will. They must be found to be a danger to others or incapable of surviving safely without institutional care.

    Under theses rulings, even if a person has repeatedly and perpetually demonstrated the types of behaviors as found by Jeremy, which is his name, he or she may be subject to court mandated treatment if the evidence in the case warrants it according to the judge. Once they serve the terms of the sentencing, he or she is able to be released into society without further "punishment" or "consequence".
  149. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says: • Website
    @Svigor

    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals.]
     
    And you liberals have been fighting tooth and nail to raise awareness and restore the mental hospitals ever since. /sarc

    You don’t have to stand and watch or turn your back because women are supposedly not worth it anymore. Good Lord.
     
    My response depends on the environment. In NYC, I'd turn my back because New Yorkers aren't worth it. White Knighting for anyone in a place like that is off the table for me.

    ¿Would you act the caballero blanco for Amy Schumer in deepest Carolina del Sur?

  150. @AndrewR
    Lol. Prudence and cowardice are not identical, despite the delusions of the foolhardy. But keep letting that hate out, champ.

    I don’t hate people I pity. I guess you could say I pity the excessively prudent….

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I'm sorry your mother didn't love you.

    But I love you, Danindc. I love you.
  151. @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Steve, as long as you're dealing with reigns of terror consistently ignored by the constabulary here in NYC, can you do something about the bike gangs of Inwood/Ft George/Washington Heights? They somewhat came to the public eye after running down and beating an Asian youth who was driving his wife and child in an SUV and fell afoul of their Mad Max antics, but since that burst of publicity nothing has changed. They take over the streets on warm weekends like Dodge City on payday.

    Alexian Lien was 33 years old at the time of the beating. Is “Asian youth” the best descriptor of an Asian man of that age?

  152. @Dirk Dagger
    ABC Channel Seven New York has a bird's-eye view of the attack from an EarthCam camera HERE. No team, just Mr. Himmelstein. I like your diagnosis of Schizotypal Personality Disorder. Mr. Himmelstein seems to display relatively "good judgement" by only attacking persons unlikely to physically respond to him. There are plenty of videos, pictures, and even a current "mini" editorial with Mr. Himmelstein as the subject at "Normal" Bob Smith's blog, which makes me agree with The Sage of Bakersfield, Mr. Buck Owens.

    I don’t think he’s going to get away with it, this time. He circled and cased the joint and came back and popped her. Plus, she’s a foreigner (Canadian) and that’s not good for tourism. Meanwhile, he’s much more alert and articulate than some ex-cons I know. He really needs to go to prison for awhile.

    According to the NY law, which I consulted before writing this, Hug Thug seems clearly guilty of a Class D felony assault. This can result in a prison sentence of 3-7 years. However, it can also result in probation. There’s also a Class A misdemeanor version that might fit the facts, the penalties are much less. However, given his history of assaulting women, I think the just solution would be to go for the max Felony D penalty.

  153. @Almost Missouri
    For an "autistic" guy this Jeremy/Jermaine sure seems to talk a lot.

    Autism used to be a pretty clear-cut diagnosis. "Autistic" meant someone who didn't speak if he could avoid it and who shied away from physical contact, along with obsessive and repetitive behavior of an a-social or anti-social nature. When they could be tested, autistics had decent IQs for handicapped people.

    This guy seems to be about the opposite. Talks a lot, stands in a crowded park with a sign seeking physical contact fer cryin' out loud, and pretty deficient thought processes. Much more likely he's just kinda retarded and violent. But "autistic" is a somewhat more exotic and classier diagnosis, so maybe some doctor up-diagnosed him so as not to appear racist, which seems to be everyone's Prime Directive nowadays.

    Asperger syndrome is now folded into Autism Spectrum Disorder and overlaps with high-functioning autism. People with Asperger’s can be early talkers and have been described as “little professors.”

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Yeah, like everything else, the mental health field has its changing fashions, and the fashion has been towards dilution of diagnoses in the last couple of decades. Besides the malaise of ever-spreading professional incompetence, I think there are some more specific reasons.

    1) Pity. Telling a parent "your son is autistic" is somehow less condemnatory than telling a parent "your son is just plain old retarded". With "autistic", there is always the chance that buried in that difficult person is the next Temple Grandin. With "retarded" there's no such prospect.

    2) Professional one-upmanship. If "retarded" is all the diagnosis you can come up with, it makes you look less enlightened and observant than the diagnostician who says "autistic". That the "autistic" diagnosis is ludicrous is of no account.

    3) Money. If you're just retarded, you're going to slow class: sort of like normal school but slower and easier, and, crucially, no more expensive.* If you are "autistic", you may be eligible for all kinds of special therapy, programs and attention, paid for by other taxpayers. Most people prefer the latter course, irrespective of the actual outcome.

    *Nowadays there's a big push for "mainstreaming"—putting retarded kids in regular classes and whatever happens, happens. The main point here is that the cost is not much different.
    , @Sean
    Aspergers is common in intellectually gifted families, and sufferers have hyperflexible joints.
  154. @Spmoore8
    Have to go case by case. With Jermaine first thing you do is take his sign. I think you are way too concerned about getting hurt. Especially when someone else getting hurt is at stake.

    Sorry, the ladies forfeited their right to chivalry when they started accusing us of sexism 24/7.

    You’re free to defend your nice Southern Christian women, they probably deserve it.

  155. @Corvinus
    "Hugs probably hasn’t been stopped because superficially he’s a triple counter: black, Jewish, and autistic."

    And the most important thing here is that he is autistic. To what degree the article does not say.
    Clearly he is not normal.

    "Realistically he should be incarcerated, or his parents should be held accountable for his conduct (i.e., keeping him at home.)"

    Actually, he has every legal right to be on a street and hold a sign. Unfortunately, only until he commits a crime is he able to be incarcerated. To complicate matters, he is viewed as an adult when it comes to mental illness laws, and therefore has the liberty to accept or reject treatment. If and when he is arrested, a judge could order a competency hearing to determine to what extent is he a danger to himself and others, and order, based on his findings, mandatory counseling.

    Another video of Jeremy/Jermaine — https://youtube.com/watch?v=jEEL5EqXt1o

    Is this “autism”? (I don’t know the ins and outs of loonies.)

    He seems to pussy-up pretty good when confronted by a more-or-less able-bodied male, really reigns his uncontrolabe aggression in; it’s almost like he’s rational. Wouldn’t that be more “personality disorder” (a/k/a “being a chickenshit asshole”)?

    Enlighten me Unzers.

    • Replies: @anon
    My guess, he looks like he's both mentally ill and a criminal.

    There isn't enough prison space or mental health space so the people involved try to find excuses to *not* lock someone up - because he's both, both sets can use it as an excuse.

    "He should be in prison."

    "No, he's a mental health problem."

    round and round
    , @Corvinus
    Indeed, on top of his autism, he more than likely has a personality disorder.

    Of course, it doesn't help when people film him and encourage him. Wouldn't these individuals be also instigating matters further?
  156. @Stephen R. Diamond

    This seems to me like a real scandal that ought to raise serious questions about what our society should do to keep violent pests from repeatedly attacking young women.
     
    This obviously depends on the nature of the violent pest. Here, the solution should be involuntary hospitalization for mental illness presenting a danger to others.

    [Problem is, your "Reagan revolution" dismantled the country's psychiatric hospitals.]

    I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The liberal left doesn’t like locking up dangerous people, while the liberal right doesn’t like paying the financial cost. Those who put all the blame on the liberal left need to explain why Germans and Scandinavians are much more interventionist:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/ann-coulter-on-mass-shootings-the-problem-isnt-guns-or-white-men

  157. Steve! What the hell? Did you not bother to dig into this guy? Don’t you know he had just finished teaching violin to blind orphans and was on his way to Columbia where he triple-majored (25 credit hours/semester!) in quantum mechanics, neurochemistry, and aerospace engineering, when this girl crudely threw a flammable liquid on a litter of stray kittens and threatened to light it, so he merely tried to knock the lighter out of her hand and missed, hitting her in the face? Sure, blame it on the “violent” black man like you guys always do. All of this court drama now for him; he was making good progress on a cure for Zika virus and HIV when he volunteered 60 hrs/week at a local lab, but now its definitely going to be delayed for quite some time. I guess the whole world has to suffer now for these crazy white people.

  158. Jermaine Himmelstein is well known in the Big Apple as the “Free Hugs Guy,” and because of the low level of financial support given to Americans struggling with mental health issues, he relies on tips in exchange for photographs to survive.

    Not true. He is getting a monthly SS disability check for autism. (My guess) Autism is the magic word for getting on the program. This is why his folks are so mellow and unconcerned about him. He contributes money to the household. he is not draining them. He hands over the SS money to his folks then goes out foraging for his own spending money by aggressively panhandling women.

    http://normalbob.com/good-news-bad-news-from-the-square/
    I looked at the videos at above link and he is chatty and well spoken. He talks white, not ghetto. The videos talk about the meds he must take to control his anger so that he does not punch out women. In no way is he autistic to me. Just nutty. Taking psych meds is normal for New Yorkers. How is Jermaine Himmelstein much different?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  159. @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Steve, as long as you're dealing with reigns of terror consistently ignored by the constabulary here in NYC, can you do something about the bike gangs of Inwood/Ft George/Washington Heights? They somewhat came to the public eye after running down and beating an Asian youth who was driving his wife and child in an SUV and fell afoul of their Mad Max antics, but since that burst of publicity nothing has changed. They take over the streets on warm weekends like Dodge City on payday.
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Yep, America is well on its way to becoming a latter-day Ottoman empire, complete with its own religio-ethnic millets.
  160. @AndrewR
    How many women has your white knighting got you?

    Two kinds of white knight: one kind pretends to be a good guy to get sex; the other kind has to refuse gratitude sex – which is a thing – or the knighting doesn’t count.

  161. @Danindc
    I don't hate people I pity. I guess you could say I pity the excessively prudent....

    I’m sorry your mother didn’t love you.

    But I love you, Danindc. I love you.

  162. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    "Hundreds of times"? Seriously dude?

    If you're for real, let's hear about it.

    There are places where situations like that arise 4-5 times a week.

    If you live anywhere urban you’ve probably driven past a bunch without even noticing as it’s often only body language tells you like a couple walking along with the guy holding the woman at the back of the neck and she’s not doing anything obvious but her body language is off cos he’s got a knife.

    Obviously you need to have grown up in one of those places or worked in them to know cos the media are such lying filth.

  163. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Dirk Dagger
    Another video of Jeremy/Jermaine -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=jEEL5EqXt1o

    Is this "autism"? (I don't know the ins and outs of loonies.)

    He seems to pussy-up pretty good when confronted by a more-or-less able-bodied male, really reigns his uncontrolabe aggression in; it's almost like he's rational. Wouldn't that be more "personality disorder" (a/k/a "being a chickenshit asshole")?

    Enlighten me Unzers.

    My guess, he looks like he’s both mentally ill and a criminal.

    There isn’t enough prison space or mental health space so the people involved try to find excuses to *not* lock someone up – because he’s both, both sets can use it as an excuse.

    “He should be in prison.”

    “No, he’s a mental health problem.”

    round and round

  164. @Anonymous
    Asperger syndrome is now folded into Autism Spectrum Disorder and overlaps with high-functioning autism. People with Asperger's can be early talkers and have been described as "little professors."

    Yeah, like everything else, the mental health field has its changing fashions, and the fashion has been towards dilution of diagnoses in the last couple of decades. Besides the malaise of ever-spreading professional incompetence, I think there are some more specific reasons.

    1) Pity. Telling a parent “your son is autistic” is somehow less condemnatory than telling a parent “your son is just plain old retarded”. With “autistic”, there is always the chance that buried in that difficult person is the next Temple Grandin. With “retarded” there’s no such prospect.

    2) Professional one-upmanship. If “retarded” is all the diagnosis you can come up with, it makes you look less enlightened and observant than the diagnostician who says “autistic”. That the “autistic” diagnosis is ludicrous is of no account.

    3) Money. If you’re just retarded, you’re going to slow class: sort of like normal school but slower and easier, and, crucially, no more expensive.* If you are “autistic”, you may be eligible for all kinds of special therapy, programs and attention, paid for by other taxpayers. Most people prefer the latter course, irrespective of the actual outcome.

    *Nowadays there’s a big push for “mainstreaming”—putting retarded kids in regular classes and whatever happens, happens. The main point here is that the cost is not much different.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    BTW, I've met some very fine people who have autism or Downs Syndrome. I'm just a little cynical about the way their conditions are handled sometimes, but I'm not cynical about the people themselves. Indeed, one of their great virtues is that cynicism is ineffectual.

    Such people certainly can have a role in the world. Modern society seems to oscillate between out-of-sight-out-of-mind neglect and exaggerated special-snowflake coddling, when just plain old being a member, however unusual, of a family and community often works best and doesn't cost a lot either.

    If any pregnant mothers are reading this after having a Downs screening that came back positive, I would say, have that baby! Even if you don't find abortion as distasteful as I do, a more loyal and true friend you will not find. Really. Have the baby.
  165. Fine, we’ve concluded there are no men in NYC … how about a hyper-empowered and gym-trained NYC power-babe stepping in and giving him a knockout punch? Oh, sorry, they don’t have time for the sisterhood who can’t do for themselves.

  166. @International Jew
    I just checked with my rabbi: Jermaine Himmelstein is not up to date with his AIPAC dues. So y'all can have at him.

    Hilarious! Props.

  167. @black sea
    On the topic of Gangs of New York:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/15/meet-the-shomrim-the-hasidic-volunteer-cops-who-answer-to-nobody.html

    Yep, America is well on its way to becoming a latter-day Ottoman empire, complete with its own religio-ethnic millets.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Of course, by importing people from former Ottoman millets, we are encouraging the process.
  168. @Steve Sailer
    Maybe the Hug Thug should have been stuck with a GPS ankle monitor at all times?

    Ankle bracelets may be a good idea, and much cheaper idea in many cases. I don’t have any direct experience with them, so I can’t comment on it specifically.

    In general I can say that another by-product of the reaction against the Willwobrook-era system is that there is now a thick matting of regulations, customs and precedents that tend to stifle anything other than the $70k/year option. Combine that with the fact that the suppliers of the $70k/yr option have become an entrenched interest of their own—an interest that not only lobbies but can wrap itself in the holy mantle of charity work, and is paid for by people who don’t realize they are paying for it and therefore don’t object—and you have a pretty formidable political force sucking “clients” into its gullet. It’s not insurmountable to establish an alternative, but it’s not a lay-up either.

  169. @Anonymous
    Asperger syndrome is now folded into Autism Spectrum Disorder and overlaps with high-functioning autism. People with Asperger's can be early talkers and have been described as "little professors."

    Aspergers is common in intellectually gifted families, and sufferers have hyperflexible joints.

  170. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    This story reminds me of other black “magnificent gentlemen” of late. Maybe some of the more ‘autistic spectrum’ black males are too timid to straight up rape (and kill) their prey, so they resort to relative (to their peers) passive-aggressive aggression.

    This other guy and this NYT op-ed by a Yale assistant professor are indicative of this “love me or else!” entitlement:

    Where is the love for us?

    It is time that blacks not be expected nor expect of themselves to set the standard for goodness and upstanding character in a society that regularly treats them cruelly. When I ask, where is the love, I am really asking you to tell me in return, to speak by your actions and take responsibility for the kind of radicalism it is now appropriate for blacks to take up: Should we heed Martin’s counsel and open our arms in embrace or should we be wary of yet another painful and bloody era of speaking and acting in bad faith, and as Malcolm advised, close our fists?
     

    “to set the standard for goodness”

    Somehow I’m not doing the math with the 500% higher crime rate thing.

    ” and upstanding character in a society that regularly treats them cruelly.”

    Perhaps the gov’t should produce a list of recipient countries that would provide them more unearned income support than the US does and mail a copy of the list each year to our downtrodden c0-nationals.

    BTW – seeing as they deliver so much goodness and character for so little appreciation, how come other countries, Japan and Saudi Arabia come to mind, aren’t clamoring to import them? They are, strangely, the gift we don’t appreciate that few others appreciate either.

  171. @Cagey Beast
    Donald Trump's violent rhetoric at his rallies made this happen.

    Nice.

  172. @Dirk Dagger
    Another video of Jeremy/Jermaine -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=jEEL5EqXt1o

    Is this "autism"? (I don't know the ins and outs of loonies.)

    He seems to pussy-up pretty good when confronted by a more-or-less able-bodied male, really reigns his uncontrolabe aggression in; it's almost like he's rational. Wouldn't that be more "personality disorder" (a/k/a "being a chickenshit asshole")?

    Enlighten me Unzers.

    Indeed, on top of his autism, he more than likely has a personality disorder.

    Of course, it doesn’t help when people film him and encourage him. Wouldn’t these individuals be also instigating matters further?

  173. @Steve Sailer
    Maybe the Hug Thug should have been stuck with a GPS ankle monitor at all times?

    “Maybe the Hug Thug should have been stuck with a GPS ankle monitor at all times?”

    How do you propose to tackle this issue in light of constitutional protections for the mentally ill?

    “It’s expensive to keep individuals with a less severe track record locked up year after year, but it’s irresponsible to the public safety just to let them go unheeded.”

    Damn that Supreme Court.

    Jackson v. Indiana (1970)

    Due process requires that the nature and duration of commitment bear some reasonable relation to the purpose for which the individual is committed.” Reasoning that if commitment is for treatment and betterment of individuals, it must be accompanied by adequate treatment, several lower courts recognized a due process right.

    O’Connor v. Donaldson (1975)

    A finding of mental illness alone is not sufficient grounds for confining a person against their will. They must be found to be a danger to others or incapable of surviving safely without institutional care.

    Under theses rulings, even if a person has repeatedly and perpetually demonstrated the types of behaviors as found by Jeremy, which is his name, he or she may be subject to court mandated treatment if the evidence in the case warrants it according to the judge. Once they serve the terms of the sentencing, he or she is able to be released into society without further “punishment” or “consequence”.

  174. @Almost Missouri
    Actually, the institutions that Gerry "Geraldo" Rivera publicized were in New York. The famous/infamous one was Willowbrook on Staten Island, which was also the largest such institution in the world at the time.

    Incidentally, after all the the newsmongering, speechifying, legislating and litigating was over, the price tag for the "humane" alternative to Willowbrooks is currently about $70,000/person/year, which is about the same cost as sending every handicapped/mentally ill person to Harvard ... forever. Except there won't be any scientific, artistic or social breakthroughs coming out of these "Harvard" students any time soon. (Not that the actual Harvard has had much to brag about recently either,* but at least their invoices stop at four years.)

    Needless to say, combine a $70k/year/head price tag that only goes up, with ever increasing diagnoses of handicaps and mental illness and you have a situation most communities (i.e., everywhere but Beverly Hills) cannot afford, so "falling through the cracks" becomes the hoped for outcome many times.

    * Well, Unz, so there's that.

    You’re correct, it was New York. Good catch on your part.

  175. @SPMoore8
    Himmelstein? Maybe he's adopted and his birth name is Jermaine Wilhelm. That would explain a lot.

    Daddy’s name is Tyrone and the family lives in Harlem. I’m willing to offer LARGE odds that he’s not white.

  176. @artichoke
    And you are? How have you risked your own safety for strangers?

    Uh, yeah. As a bouncer, I was forced to many times. I can also tell you that the NAMs we had to beat down were “punching” far above their weight for violent behavior as a percentage of the crowd at the club. The only bigger punks were the city Irish guys, but they were always drunker and easier to handle.

    My favorite, however, was as a civilian, and it involved an interracial couple AND domestic violence in a mall parking lot. I did make sure he swung first, though. My only regret was that the two kids, already traumatized by seeing daddy bloody mommy’s face with about 12 closed-fist punches (probably not for the first time) had to see daddy catch a beating, too.

    The kicker to the whole thing was, when the cops arrived and cuffed the guy, the baby momma started complaining to the cops that because it was a long weekend, her baby daddy would have to spend 3 days in jail before going before a judge.

    The net result is that it was probably a total waste of my time and effort.

  177. @Almost Missouri
    De-institutionalization of the mentally ill was the pet project of liberal Supreme Court Justices, the ACLU and Latino-supremacist and soldier-back-stabber Gerry ("Geraldo") Rivera, beginning in the late 1960's, long before Reagan arrived in DC.

    Mental hospitals?! We don’t need no steenking mental hospitals. Pretty much every deviant behavior has been mainstreamed in the past 10 years.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    Perhaps it is a deliberate strategy by the elites to prevent this sort of thing happening to them:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rape-idUSBRE95I09N20130619
  178. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Brutusale
    Mental hospitals?! We don't need no steenking mental hospitals. Pretty much every deviant behavior has been mainstreamed in the past 10 years.

    Perhaps it is a deliberate strategy by the elites to prevent this sort of thing happening to them:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rape-idUSBRE95I09N20130619

  179. @Jim Don Bob
    Wrong, Tonto. Liberals went to court in the late 60s saying that being mentally ill was just a lifestyle choice, and that even if they were mentally ill, it was cruel to warehouse them when they could be re-integrated into society and get their meds at a community center, blah, blah, blah. The well-done but dishonest movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest had a great influence.

    Fully 1/3 of hospital beds in the 60s were in mental institutions, so states were happy to be rid of these people. And of course the community centers never materialized and even if they did, these guys (it was mostly guys) were too drunk or crazy or drugged to remember to go get their meds.

    And now we spend billions of dollars subsidizing the street life of crazies, druggies, and alcoholics. And the Left has another Compassion Club to beat Republicans with. Note that we have heard nothing about the homeless (or about Cindy Sheehan for that matter) since one January day in 2009. Homelessness will be a National Problem once again the day Trump is sworn in.

    The well-done but dishonest movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest had a great influence.

    Without getting into the debate about how to treat the mentally ill, I agree with your characterization of the movie, because Kesey’s book isn’t really about mental illness or mental hospitals at all; that’s all a metaphor describing Kesey’s views on society. It comes across much more clearly in the book (and, I’m told, the play) because the book is first person narrated by the Chief, who really is mentally ill.

    Great book (whether you agree with it or not); mediocre at best movie. A showy but shallow performance from Nicholson to win the Oscar; something similar happened a decade later with Dustin Hoffman’s similar type of performance in another mediocre-at-best movie about mental illness, Rain Man, which is perhaps the least realistic movie ever made about autism.

  180. @Almost Missouri
    Yep, America is well on its way to becoming a latter-day Ottoman empire, complete with its own religio-ethnic millets.

    Of course, by importing people from former Ottoman millets, we are encouraging the process.

  181. @Almost Missouri
    Yeah, like everything else, the mental health field has its changing fashions, and the fashion has been towards dilution of diagnoses in the last couple of decades. Besides the malaise of ever-spreading professional incompetence, I think there are some more specific reasons.

    1) Pity. Telling a parent "your son is autistic" is somehow less condemnatory than telling a parent "your son is just plain old retarded". With "autistic", there is always the chance that buried in that difficult person is the next Temple Grandin. With "retarded" there's no such prospect.

    2) Professional one-upmanship. If "retarded" is all the diagnosis you can come up with, it makes you look less enlightened and observant than the diagnostician who says "autistic". That the "autistic" diagnosis is ludicrous is of no account.

    3) Money. If you're just retarded, you're going to slow class: sort of like normal school but slower and easier, and, crucially, no more expensive.* If you are "autistic", you may be eligible for all kinds of special therapy, programs and attention, paid for by other taxpayers. Most people prefer the latter course, irrespective of the actual outcome.

    *Nowadays there's a big push for "mainstreaming"—putting retarded kids in regular classes and whatever happens, happens. The main point here is that the cost is not much different.

    BTW, I’ve met some very fine people who have autism or Downs Syndrome. I’m just a little cynical about the way their conditions are handled sometimes, but I’m not cynical about the people themselves. Indeed, one of their great virtues is that cynicism is ineffectual.

    Such people certainly can have a role in the world. Modern society seems to oscillate between out-of-sight-out-of-mind neglect and exaggerated special-snowflake coddling, when just plain old being a member, however unusual, of a family and community often works best and doesn’t cost a lot either.

    If any pregnant mothers are reading this after having a Downs screening that came back positive, I would say, have that baby! Even if you don’t find abortion as distasteful as I do, a more loyal and true friend you will not find. Really. Have the baby.

  182. Hmm, 181 comments and nobody has mentioned that the allegedly autistic guy is offering “Free Hugs” when a marker of autism is the dislike of being touched.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Hmm, 181 comments and nobody has mentioned that the allegedly autistic guy is offering “Free Hugs” when a marker of autism is the dislike of being touched.
     
    I posted this before. There is the medical description of autism and the Federal Government's description of autism. My take is Jermain got that magical autism diagnosis and is getting SS disability checks that his parents spend. The aggressive panhandling is his hobby.
    , @Corvinus
    "Pretty much every deviant behavior has been mainstreamed in the past 10 years."

    What are you even talking about? Elaborate, please.

    "Hmm, 181 comments and nobody has mentioned that the allegedly autistic guy is offering “Free Hugs” when a marker of autism is the dislike of being touched."

    Some people with autism may not have an aversion to touching. There's a reason why autism, like other mental illnesses, have a spectrum.
  183. @Brutusale
    Hmm, 181 comments and nobody has mentioned that the allegedly autistic guy is offering "Free Hugs" when a marker of autism is the dislike of being touched.

    Hmm, 181 comments and nobody has mentioned that the allegedly autistic guy is offering “Free Hugs” when a marker of autism is the dislike of being touched.

    I posted this before. There is the medical description of autism and the Federal Government’s description of autism. My take is Jermain got that magical autism diagnosis and is getting SS disability checks that his parents spend. The aggressive panhandling is his hobby.

  184. @Brutusale
    Hmm, 181 comments and nobody has mentioned that the allegedly autistic guy is offering "Free Hugs" when a marker of autism is the dislike of being touched.

    “Pretty much every deviant behavior has been mainstreamed in the past 10 years.”

    What are you even talking about? Elaborate, please.

    “Hmm, 181 comments and nobody has mentioned that the allegedly autistic guy is offering “Free Hugs” when a marker of autism is the dislike of being touched.”

    Some people with autism may not have an aversion to touching. There’s a reason why autism, like other mental illnesses, have a spectrum.

  185. @SPMoore8
    You are correct, "Himmelstein" is a German name, as are many Ashkenazi surnames, that's why I said superficially. On the other hand, he could be Jewish. He could also be Czech, inasmuch as there's a Himmelstein Castle in today's "Czechia" (note the Slavic spelling), which means the name is very old: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Himl%C5%A1tejn

    Although in fairness looking around for people with the Himmelstein monicker has mostly turned up persons who appear to be Jewish, including a Lithuanian (!) Jewish woman who invented the plus sized clothing chain Lane Bryant.

    I guess these arguments about Hug Thug's heritage won't get really intense until he wins a Nobel. I can wait.

    You are correct, “Himmelstein” is a German name, as are many Ashkenazi surnames

    While it’s theoretically possible for a non-Jewish German to be named Himmelstein, I’ll venture that in the USA those guys are outnumbered at least 50:1 by Jewish (or ancestrally Jewish) Himmelsteins. Google the name and what do you see? Lots of doctors and lawyers, nary a brewer!

    Gertrude Himmelfarb, by the way, was the wife of the famous “New York Intellectual” Irving Kristol and mother of the neoconservative pundit William Kristol.

    As for the hug thug, my guess is…no idea. His mom’s name is Denise—that doesn’t sound black. But then hug thug himself looks too dark to be half white.

    Himmelstein seems an unlikely name for a long-ago slaveowner too; most American Jews then were Sephardi.

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