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From Ben Kurtz:

… Google has just earned itself a lawsuit.

California Labor Code § 1102 requires that “no employer shall coerce or influence or attempt to coerce or influence his employees through or by means of threat of discharge or loss of employment to adopt or follow or refrain from adopting or following any particular course or line of political action or political activity.” Furthermore, the “whistleblower” provisions at §1102.5 prohibit employers from adopting rules preventing disclosure of, or retaliating against an employee for having disclosed, “information … to a person with authority over the employee, or another employee who has authority to investigate, discover or correct the violation … if the employee has reasonable cause to believe that the information discloses a violation of state or federal statute, or a violation of or noncompliance with a local, state, or federal rule or regulation, regardless of whether disclosing the information is part of the employee’s job duties.”

The memo in question quite plausibly falls into both statutory sections — advocating that someone “stop alienating conservatives” sure sounds like political activity, and warning of corporate policies and procedures “which can incentivize illegal discrimination,” and asking that the employer cease “restricting [certain] programs and classes to certain genders or races” sure sounds like information which an employee would have “reasonable cause to believe” concerns noncompliance with federal and state anti-discrimination laws.

Even better: Somebody could go to jail for this.

Section 1103 provides: “An employer or any other person or entity that violates this chapter is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable, in the case of an individual, by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed one year or a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or both that fine and imprisonment, or, in the case of a corporation, by a fine not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).

 
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  1. slumber_j says:

    Off to the pokey!!

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  2. jjbees says:

    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

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    • Agree: Thea, Randal, reiner Tor, Nico, Bill
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    This makes them all the more dangerous.
    , @Randal

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.
     
    Depends how you define insanity I suppose. But certainly all that is needed to develop these kinds of levels of point blank denial of common sense reality are sufficiently strong social and self-interest reasons for doing so, combined with the ideological dogma necessary to provide the supporting intellectual framework for it. Both aspects are present in spades in the societies of the modern US sphere.

    It's interesting that Damore's arguments were directed at the male/female issue, but can be applied (though he did not do so) equally effectively to racial/ethnic differences, which is a danger his critics are clearly very much alive to.

    Sadly for them, when they point this out they only draw further attention to the line of argument that damns their whole position.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.
     
    The people at the top don't really believe it. But they do think saying so or acting as if it is true is a fatal breach of decorum and evidence that the speaker doesn't want it to be true. It's like telling a committed Christian that heaven doesn't seem all that nice or desirable.

    From a practical perspective, it's harmful to say at Google because of the inevitable flip-outs and resultant lack of productivity.

    Think about being in Babu's shoes - you've taken over a tech giant headquartered in the most socially radical region of the United States, which has employed countless employees who skew young and have been steeped from childhood in equalist fantasies. Even if James Damore's statements are correct and even if acting in conformity with the realities he sets forth would lead to the long term financial health and well-being of the Company, in the short term it's a disaster to have all of your Monster Baby employees pitching fits and potentially acting as saboteurs inside the organization to punish you for not getting rid of the heretic. It's easier to throw the occasional James Damore into the volcano (ensuring he will probably be the last) and take the legal consequences than to leave him in place and see the place burnt to the ground.
    , @oddsbodkins
    It's always tempting to think that one's enemies are collectively insane. They aren't.

    Even Japanese soldiers who held out on islands for years were not insane. What they were is loyal, dedicated, and convinced.
    , @tullamore92
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/124952-in-my-study-of-communist-societies-i-came-to-the
    , @Desiderius
    It's sad funny reading the Heterodox Academy's response which bends over backward to take the madness seriously in a vain (in more ways than one) attempt to preserve their centrist brand.
    , @MBlanc46
    I believe that "insane" is a legal term, not a clinical. If the psychiatric profession did not share the delusions of the sex-deniers and the race-deniers, it would be considered a psychiatric disorder.
    , @Travis
    most of them are delusional but many know the reality of HBD and want to suppress the science behind the reality we observe daily. Unfortunately many millennials have been indoctrinated by the SJW teachers and professors which now dominate our education system. While many would agree with James Damore , many more fear the consequences of coming out in support of his memo.
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  3. Nico says:

    *IF* the suit goes ahead and reaches judgment (not settled out-of-court), there are only two possibilities.

    First is that Google loses, the responsible parties are exposed and decredibilized. Silicon Valley will enter into a major crisis.

    Second, if Google wins then the judge will have effectively vindicated the notion – already very widespread among SJWs – that voicing a right-wing stance on a hot-button issue is “creating a hostile work environment” and while protected from prosecution as blasphemy under the First Amendment, is not a “legitimate” position to take in civic discourse.

    At that point our side will have to choose how to react: is that a declaration of war or an opening of hunting season against us? I would prefer we presume the former and try to fight.

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    *IF* the suit goes ahead and reaches judgment (not settled out-of-court), there are only two possibilities.
     
    You really think there's the slightest chance a US court would rule against Google in a case like this? US courts don't care about the law. They are political courts.
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  4. @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    This makes them all the more dangerous.

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    • Replies: @schmenz
    Exactly.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    This makes them all the more dangerous.
     

     
    Hence, the invention of the straight-jacket - probably by some white man or something. Go long straight-jackets, bitchez! [/style: zerohedge-commenter]
    , @Jack D
    Any child can believe things that are simply and obviously true, but as Orwell observed, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”

    Therefore, believing in absurd stuff is sort of an intellectual badge - "I believe in stuff that is absurd on its face and have the ability to rationalize anything. So you know that I must be a bona fide intellectual."
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  5. Dr. X says:

    Even better: Somebody could go to jail for this.

    When pigs fly. Google has enough money to hire more lawyers than O.J. Simpson and keep this in the courts for years.

    And no judge would actually give the Google CEO a day — let alone a year — of jail time. Somebody with that profile and no criminal history would get nothing in the very, very unlikely event of an actual misdemeanor conviction.

    Keep dreamin.’ Laws are for little people… laws are written to put people like you and me in jail, not them.

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    While grateful as always for a Steve Sailer shout out, I will say that in my full blog post I happen to agree with your conclusion:

    "Seeing Google CEO Sundar Pichai, or Google Chief Diversity Officer Danielle Brown led away to the pokey in cuffs would be poetic justice indeed. Not that such a thing is at all likely in the People’s Republic of California, of course."
    , @JackOH
    Agree, Dr. X. Do folks actually believe laws alone are our deus ex machinafor what ails us? Have some of the folks here waxing as though already victorious actually been in a legal action against a very powerful player? Unless there's some surprise coming, Damore will get shut-your-mouth money, and that'll be it.
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  6. O'Really says:

    Unfortunately, this seems like a stretch. IANAL, but I would construe “political activity” to mean actual campaigning in an electoral race. Also, posting an internal memo for discussion purposes would not likely be interpreted as a whistleblower activity, which typically involves public reporting of wrongdoing.

    If Damore is going to have a plausible legal case, it would hinge on whether he went to the NLRB with his concerns prior to the dismissal. It has been suggested that he did, but I’m a little unclear on the timeline. If he did, and the Googlerati were aware of it, then the firing could be viewed as retaliation.

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  7. Depending on what Google put in its SEC filings, Damone’s firing could violate Federal Securities Law. It could also be witness retaliation in violation of 18 USC 1513.
    A good attorney could have a field day with Google.
    Jeff Sessions should have the FBI investigate Google and its executives.
    I believe Pichai is a US citizen. His naturalization should be scrutinized. If the US can show he does not believe in the First Amendment, denaturalize him.
    Think about the implications for H-1B visas if Pichai is deported.

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    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    I agree, this should be made a federal issue.

    It would be payback for Google meddling in the last election on the side of evil.
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  8. biz says:

    Let me just say that even if there weren’t PC considerations here, there is no way that California is going to put the CEO of a major Silicon Valley company in prison.

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  9. Randal says:
    @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    Depends how you define insanity I suppose. But certainly all that is needed to develop these kinds of levels of point blank denial of common sense reality are sufficiently strong social and self-interest reasons for doing so, combined with the ideological dogma necessary to provide the supporting intellectual framework for it. Both aspects are present in spades in the societies of the modern US sphere.

    It’s interesting that Damore’s arguments were directed at the male/female issue, but can be applied (though he did not do so) equally effectively to racial/ethnic differences, which is a danger his critics are clearly very much alive to.

    Sadly for them, when they point this out they only draw further attention to the line of argument that damns their whole position.

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  10. TG says:

    No.

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  11. “imprisonment in the county jail”

    Not a state prison, but a “county jail”? Why? Speculative answer: Because California legislators are “Mikado” fans; see 0:45 at

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-2LxOAw9iY

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    More prosaically, because sentences of less than one year are almost always served in county jail, not in a prison upstate, at least in the U.S.
    , @Jack Cade
    The most wonderful work of Gilbert & Sullivan. I suppose the 1939 version is probably canonical, but I'd recommend this Canadian version as well:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbpUzCFCy_8&index=1&list=PL0ZreVau-MAClI7wzXFJ75xUcr4A3yvlK (the poobah character is an exceptional portrayalof)

    Talk about things we can't have anymore because of "cultural APPROPRIATION!"

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  12. When you payoff the right kind of politicians, you are immune from the wrong kind of handcuffs.

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  13. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    So, how did California manage to pass anti-BDS measures?

    And how come Hollywood can fire people for being part of ‘hate’?

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  14. @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    The people at the top don’t really believe it. But they do think saying so or acting as if it is true is a fatal breach of decorum and evidence that the speaker doesn’t want it to be true. It’s like telling a committed Christian that heaven doesn’t seem all that nice or desirable.

    From a practical perspective, it’s harmful to say at Google because of the inevitable flip-outs and resultant lack of productivity.

    Think about being in Babu’s shoes – you’ve taken over a tech giant headquartered in the most socially radical region of the United States, which has employed countless employees who skew young and have been steeped from childhood in equalist fantasies. Even if James Damore’s statements are correct and even if acting in conformity with the realities he sets forth would lead to the long term financial health and well-being of the Company, in the short term it’s a disaster to have all of your Monster Baby employees pitching fits and potentially acting as saboteurs inside the organization to punish you for not getting rid of the heretic. It’s easier to throw the occasional James Damore into the volcano (ensuring he will probably be the last) and take the legal consequences than to leave him in place and see the place burnt to the ground.

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  15. @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    It’s always tempting to think that one’s enemies are collectively insane. They aren’t.

    Even Japanese soldiers who held out on islands for years were not insane. What they were is loyal, dedicated, and convinced.

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  16. @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.
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    • Replies: @jjbees
    Dalrymple is paraphrasing Vaclan Havel, a Czech dissident against the communist government of the time, who later became president of the Czech Republic. You can find it under "Havel's Greengrocer".
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  17. schmenz says:
    @reiner Tor
    This makes them all the more dangerous.

    Exactly.

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  18. anon says: • Disclaimer

    I think Google should just pack up and move a little north. They can setup shop in Canada (Vancouver is a nice city; they have lot of real estate on Vancouver Island, if they want to build a silicon valley). The politics in US is simply too poisonous for an information/knowledge/wisdom plumber.

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  19. Yeah, yeah … but does the employee belong to a protected class? Don’t get your hopes up.

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  20. @reiner Tor
    This makes them all the more dangerous.

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    This makes them all the more dangerous.

    Hence, the invention of the straight-jacket – probably by some white man or something. Go long straight-jackets, bitchez! [/style: zerohedge-commenter]

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  21. The day they haul out Cherry Sundae and clap him in irons would be de day ob de Jubilee. I won’t hold my breath.

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  22. KM32 says:

    There is zero chance that he’ll be prosecuted for this. What the law says is one thing, and how it is interpreted is another.

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  23. NickG says:

    Is a Google Executive Headed for Jail?

    This would have been vastly more entertaining in pukka colonial vernacular….

    Is Google’s top coolie to be banged up in the chokey?

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  24. It’s an execrable law but I wouldn’t be honest if I didn’t recognize the perverse “social justice” it would provide, if not selectively enforced. Of course, it will be selectively enforced, as are all such execrable laws.

    If I could, I’d sentence every CEO, and every journalist covering the Damore story to read this:

    http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-mau-mauing-of-james-damore.html

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  25. @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    It’s sad funny reading the Heterodox Academy’s response which bends over backward to take the madness seriously in a vain (in more ways than one) attempt to preserve their centrist brand.

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  26. Jack D says:
    @reiner Tor
    This makes them all the more dangerous.

    Any child can believe things that are simply and obviously true, but as Orwell observed, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”

    Therefore, believing in absurd stuff is sort of an intellectual badge – “I believe in stuff that is absurd on its face and have the ability to rationalize anything. So you know that I must be a bona fide intellectual.”

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    Yes, but it doesn't make them any less crazy. Or dangerous.
    , @keuril

    Therefore, believing in absurd stuff is sort of an intellectual badge – “I believe in stuff that is absurd on its face and have the ability to rationalize anything. So you know that I must be a bona fide intellectual
     
    That is, by the way, exactly how Amazon has achieved its ludicrous valuation—an army of insecure, pseudo-intellectual analysts affirming that a company that has never managed a substantial profit in more than 20 yrs as a public corporation can indefinitely "reinvest revenues something something." The same madness we find in the political sphere exists in the financial sphere as well.
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  27. @Jack D
    Any child can believe things that are simply and obviously true, but as Orwell observed, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”

    Therefore, believing in absurd stuff is sort of an intellectual badge - "I believe in stuff that is absurd on its face and have the ability to rationalize anything. So you know that I must be a bona fide intellectual."

    Yes, but it doesn’t make them any less crazy. Or dangerous.

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  28. Please God!

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  29. whorefinder says: • Website

    Yeah, he ain’t going to jail.

    Everyone knows these kinds of “crimes” are really there to be used against white men. They are selectively enforced. So California will either decline to prosecute—and if questioned, say Newspeakingly that there “not enough evidence”—or, if they are forced prosecute, give him probation.

    This is rather how “hate crime” legislation (which is clearly unconstitutional, but hey, Diversity!) works. Blacks whined about how they’re always criminals and whitey isn’t, legislators responded with legislation giving judges the power to overpunish whiteys in white/nonwhite crimes to satisfy the bloodlust. And when blacks commit one? The prosecutors ignore the hate crime aspects and treat it as a non-hate crime.

    This happens in a lot of physical fights. In fights, people tend to scream lots of demaning insults at each other; it’s the nature of the adrenaline (and in men, also testosterone) kicking in. SO if a white and black and get in a fight and the white lets a racial slur slip out—even if the fight clearly began over something non-racial(i.e. a traffic incident, a fight over a girl)—-the prosecutors will climb all over each other to get whitey on a hate crime. But even if a blacks starts out with the clear intention to assault white people for being white—”I’m going to go beat up some white people, yo, I hate them”— you watch how rarely they get the “hate crime” charge.enhancement.

    It’s Bonfire of the Vanities ‘s theme writ into law.

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    • Agree: anarchyst, reiner Tor
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    This is an aspect of the US system resembling the USSR: something is written in the law books, and something else is the reality.
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  30. keuril says:
    @Jack D
    Any child can believe things that are simply and obviously true, but as Orwell observed, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”

    Therefore, believing in absurd stuff is sort of an intellectual badge - "I believe in stuff that is absurd on its face and have the ability to rationalize anything. So you know that I must be a bona fide intellectual."

    Therefore, believing in absurd stuff is sort of an intellectual badge – “I believe in stuff that is absurd on its face and have the ability to rationalize anything. So you know that I must be a bona fide intellectual

    That is, by the way, exactly how Amazon has achieved its ludicrous valuation—an army of insecure, pseudo-intellectual analysts affirming that a company that has never managed a substantial profit in more than 20 yrs as a public corporation can indefinitely “reinvest revenues something something.” The same madness we find in the political sphere exists in the financial sphere as well.

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  31. @whorefinder
    Yeah, he ain't going to jail.

    Everyone knows these kinds of "crimes" are really there to be used against white men. They are selectively enforced. So California will either decline to prosecute---and if questioned, say Newspeakingly that there "not enough evidence"---or, if they are forced prosecute, give him probation.

    This is rather how "hate crime" legislation (which is clearly unconstitutional, but hey, Diversity!) works. Blacks whined about how they're always criminals and whitey isn't, legislators responded with legislation giving judges the power to overpunish whiteys in white/nonwhite crimes to satisfy the bloodlust. And when blacks commit one? The prosecutors ignore the hate crime aspects and treat it as a non-hate crime.

    This happens in a lot of physical fights. In fights, people tend to scream lots of demaning insults at each other; it's the nature of the adrenaline (and in men, also testosterone) kicking in. SO if a white and black and get in a fight and the white lets a racial slur slip out---even if the fight clearly began over something non-racial(i.e. a traffic incident, a fight over a girl)----the prosecutors will climb all over each other to get whitey on a hate crime. But even if a blacks starts out with the clear intention to assault white people for being white---"I'm going to go beat up some white people, yo, I hate them"--- you watch how rarely they get the "hate crime" charge.enhancement.

    It's Bonfire of the Vanities 's theme writ into law.

    This is an aspect of the US system resembling the USSR: something is written in the law books, and something else is the reality.

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  32. Hope springs eternal, but remember – this happened in California, the Ninth Circuit.

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  33. Ben Kurtz says: • Website
    @Dr. X

    Even better: Somebody could go to jail for this.
     
    When pigs fly. Google has enough money to hire more lawyers than O.J. Simpson and keep this in the courts for years.

    And no judge would actually give the Google CEO a day -- let alone a year -- of jail time. Somebody with that profile and no criminal history would get nothing in the very, very unlikely event of an actual misdemeanor conviction.

    Keep dreamin.' Laws are for little people... laws are written to put people like you and me in jail, not them.

    While grateful as always for a Steve Sailer shout out, I will say that in my full blog post I happen to agree with your conclusion:

    “Seeing Google CEO Sundar Pichai, or Google Chief Diversity Officer Danielle Brown led away to the pokey in cuffs would be poetic justice indeed. Not that such a thing is at all likely in the People’s Republic of California, of course.”

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  34. Ben Kurtz says: • Website
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    "imprisonment in the county jail"

    Not a state prison, but a "county jail"? Why? Speculative answer: Because California legislators are "Mikado" fans; see 0:45 at
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-2LxOAw9iY

    More prosaically, because sentences of less than one year are almost always served in county jail, not in a prison upstate, at least in the U.S.

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    More prosaically, because sentences of less than one year are almost always served in county jail, not in a prison upstate, at least in the U.S.
     
    Like this heart warming story from Virginia: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/10/college-student-gets-100-days-in-slammer-for-registering-dead-voters-for-dems.html

    More!
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  35. JackOH says:
    @Dr. X

    Even better: Somebody could go to jail for this.
     
    When pigs fly. Google has enough money to hire more lawyers than O.J. Simpson and keep this in the courts for years.

    And no judge would actually give the Google CEO a day -- let alone a year -- of jail time. Somebody with that profile and no criminal history would get nothing in the very, very unlikely event of an actual misdemeanor conviction.

    Keep dreamin.' Laws are for little people... laws are written to put people like you and me in jail, not them.

    Agree, Dr. X. Do folks actually believe laws alone are our deus ex machinafor what ails us? Have some of the folks here waxing as though already victorious actually been in a legal action against a very powerful player? Unless there’s some surprise coming, Damore will get shut-your-mouth money, and that’ll be it.

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  36. Objectively, all of these things could be said about the Catholic Church, it’s priesthood, and followers.

    Social Justice and PC is a religion. With irrational means to rational, or at least good-intentional, ends. More-or-less like every other religion.

    The difference is the Catholic Church has had 2,000 years to field test its interlocking (and sometimes self-contradictory) ideology and work out the bugs whereas the SJWs are turning all the knobs in the control room of civilization willy-nilly and their unintended consequences are starting to have larger effects than their intended consequences.

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  37. DanC says:

    C’mon Ben Kurtz, get real!

    Everybody know Google is Too Big To Jail.

    There’s no more chance of a Google CEO or VP going to jail than there is of an executive from Morgan Stanley or Bank of America going to jail.

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  38. @George Weinbaum
    Depending on what Google put in its SEC filings, Damone's firing could violate Federal Securities Law. It could also be witness retaliation in violation of 18 USC 1513.
    A good attorney could have a field day with Google.
    Jeff Sessions should have the FBI investigate Google and its executives.
    I believe Pichai is a US citizen. His naturalization should be scrutinized. If the US can show he does not believe in the First Amendment, denaturalize him.
    Think about the implications for H-1B visas if Pichai is deported.

    I agree, this should be made a federal issue.

    It would be payback for Google meddling in the last election on the side of evil.

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  39. @Ben Kurtz
    More prosaically, because sentences of less than one year are almost always served in county jail, not in a prison upstate, at least in the U.S.

    More prosaically, because sentences of less than one year are almost always served in county jail, not in a prison upstate, at least in the U.S.

    Like this heart warming story from Virginia: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/10/college-student-gets-100-days-in-slammer-for-registering-dead-voters-for-dems.html

    More!

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  40. MBlanc46 says:

    Right, The People’s Republic of California AG is going to prosecute Google execs. Count the seconds until it happens. Tick, tick, tick, tick, ………………………………………………………………………………….

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  41. MBlanc46 says:
    @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    I believe that “insane” is a legal term, not a clinical. If the psychiatric profession did not share the delusions of the sex-deniers and the race-deniers, it would be considered a psychiatric disorder.

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  42. Travis says:
    @jjbees
    I had this thought this morning, and while I know it has been said a million times, it still leaves me in awe:

    It is so obviously true that men and women are different, that people of different races are different, that for someone to say otherwise is simply insane. These people are insane.

    most of them are delusional but many know the reality of HBD and want to suppress the science behind the reality we observe daily. Unfortunately many millennials have been indoctrinated by the SJW teachers and professors which now dominate our education system. While many would agree with James Damore , many more fear the consequences of coming out in support of his memo.

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  43. But, but, but… whistle blowing isn’t whistle blowing if the whistle blower is a SEXIST or RACIST… right?

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  44. jjbees says:
    @tullamore92
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/124952-in-my-study-of-communist-societies-i-came-to-the

    Dalrymple is paraphrasing Vaclan Havel, a Czech dissident against the communist government of the time, who later became president of the Czech Republic. You can find it under “Havel’s Greengrocer”.

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  45. Travis says:

    If the CEO of Google was a white male and he fired a Black Muslim man for writing a similar memo the CEO would be reprimanded…not jailed, but he would be forced to resign in shame….not sure what would occur if James Damore identified as a trans-female who has just started hormone treatments.

    Do trannies get urinals in the Google girls bathrooms yet ?

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  46. Jack Cade says:
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    "imprisonment in the county jail"

    Not a state prison, but a "county jail"? Why? Speculative answer: Because California legislators are "Mikado" fans; see 0:45 at
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-2LxOAw9iY

    The most wonderful work of Gilbert & Sullivan. I suppose the 1939 version is probably canonical, but I’d recommend this Canadian version as well:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbpUzCFCy_8&index=1&list=PL0ZreVau-MAClI7wzXFJ75xUcr4A3yvlK (the poobah character is an exceptional portrayalof)

    Talk about things we can’t have anymore because of “cultural APPROPRIATION!”

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  47. Alden says:

    The only time CLC 1102 is enforced us when people are fired for organizing labor unions in the private sector.

    Unless they belong to a union like the supermarket workers or AA civil service, California workers can be fired at any time for no reason. Damore wasn’t writing about political beliefs. He was writing about affirmative action for women. Technically,
    Damore wasn’t writing about politics.

    Judges do what they want. Laws are irrevelant to their rulings. Actually, I was surprised to see Google had just one White male American employee.

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  48. Alden says:

    The writer is a moron and ignorant. Read the first sentence, California Labor Code. That statute is not in the criminal code so violators don’t go to prison and are not investigated and prosecuted by district attorneys.

    The complaint would be made to, and investigated by, the state labor board.

    If some unfortunate illegal alien were killed at work by egregious violations of industrial safety regs the employer might be charged with some kind of negligent manslaughter.

    This kind of ignorant nonsense is why I am a White Nationalist, not a naive conservative who thinks the 14th amendment and merit hiring applies to Whites.

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  49. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    This is California. Do you really think a judge or jury there will find in favor of Damore? More likely it will either be dismissed or will quickly find in favor of Google.

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  50. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Nico
    *IF* the suit goes ahead and reaches judgment (not settled out-of-court), there are only two possibilities.

    First is that Google loses, the responsible parties are exposed and decredibilized. Silicon Valley will enter into a major crisis.

    Second, if Google wins then the judge will have effectively vindicated the notion - already very widespread among SJWs - that voicing a right-wing stance on a hot-button issue is "creating a hostile work environment" and while protected from prosecution as blasphemy under the First Amendment, is not a "legitimate" position to take in civic discourse.

    At that point our side will have to choose how to react: is that a declaration of war or an opening of hunting season against us? I would prefer we presume the former and try to fight.

    *IF* the suit goes ahead and reaches judgment (not settled out-of-court), there are only two possibilities.

    You really think there’s the slightest chance a US court would rule against Google in a case like this? US courts don’t care about the law. They are political courts.

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