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Screenshot 2017-08-12 21.02.49With Google CEO Sundar Pichai firing James Damore for his intolerable stereotypical white male bigotry, I’ve been recently interested in a topic not much discussed in the U.S.: Indian caste … uh … preference.

At a reader’s suggestion, here’s is a screenshot of the Quick Search page from SimplyMarry.com, a spouse finder site for Non-Resident Indians.

It’s really quite simple to use.

You just pick whether you are Looking For a bride or a groom.

Then select a desired Age range.

Pick a Religion.

Select a Mother Tongue.

And then, to wrap it up, pick a Caste.

What could be simpler?

Granted, you are offered several hundred Castes to choose among.

The screenshot here of the mostly alphabetical list only goes down to the middle of the Bs — “Brahmin – Dixit” — so there are far more choices than I could display on my screen at once.

The complete Caste list is maybe five times longer than what you can see here.

India is complicated.

By the way, when I looked up, at random, Dixit, I found that Wikipedia spells it differently:

Dikshit

Dikshit (also spelled as Dixit or Dikshitar) (pronounced “deek-shitt”) (/ˈdikʃɪt/) (Hindi: दीक्षित), is a Hindu family name. The word is an adjective form of the Sanskrit word diksha, meaning provider of knowledge. Dikshita in Sanskrit derives itself as a person involved in scientific studies, and literally translates as “one who has received initiation or one who is initiated”. The surname is usually associated with high class Hindu Brahmins and punjabi high class jatts in India, especially in North India. …

They are the wittiest brahmin’s ever created by Lord Brahma, Apart from having knowledge more than ocean’s water,they were class warriors.

P.S.: Commenter Dot Not Feather writes:

Not quite the same but fun fact: during the Mughal era (maybe still now?) there were several different Hindu and Muslim eunuch groups who were as endogamous as could be given the circumstances. The current LGBTUnicode hair-splitting sounds like something Indian mothers could get behind.

 
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  1. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Right, most people think there are just 4 castes, which would make them similar to most other societies, but that they’re just much stricter than other societies which have greater mobility between classes. In reality, there are hundreds of endogamous castes.

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    You can also select for BO level, from funky all the way to gnarly.

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  3. Being a White racial minority in post-white American=Native Born White American Males putting their fate in the hands of POTUS Kamala Harris’s Attorney General Preet Bharra…..or perhaps Vanita Gupta….

    Comment inspired by Governor Terry McCauliffe’s state organized violence against the Alt Right today…

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    I wonder which castes get infravision.

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  5. wren says:

    I am confused by this talk that caste is not really a topic amongst Indians in the US.

    My spouse had several Indian friends in college, and not only can describe roughly how they fit on the caste totem pole, but has related several caste connected stories about them as well.

    Usually related to their families’ opposition to marriage plans.

    I believe it is a thing.

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  6. JW Bell says:

    I bet a significant percent of guys put “Doesn’t Matter” and zero women do.

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    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    I bet a significant percent of guys put “Doesn’t Matter” ...
     
    Not if their mother has anything to say about it!
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  7. It’s even worse than that.

    I picked Sundar Pichai’s (sub) caste, which another commenter had mentioned in an earlier thread.

    I got a pull-down menu for another six sub-sub-castes.

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    Eventually you'll get down to one of his cousins.
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  8. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    India is unique among all modern nations in that it’s not united by religion, language, or class, but is rather united in an olfactory sense by a stench that pervades among all Indians.

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  9. Start an open thread on Charlottesville…it’s a turning point in US History…

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    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    "Start an open thread on Charlottesville…it’s a turning point in US History…"

    Really? Why exactly? The whole thing is full of smoke right now. They have arrested someone, but the details are up in the air.

    I have seen some statements that the guy was anti-Trump based on facebook postings.

    No idea. It's possible he was one of the antifa crew, got his car rocked by the crowd, panicked and had an incident.

    Or he is exactly what it says on the label. No idea yet. His mug shot though shows he has that odd haircut Spencer has (isn't that some kind of Nazi era fad? Think I've seen similar cuts on military folks though, but not recently, more 50's/60's kind of stuff).

    We'll see. But either way, why is it a turning point? SSDD from my viewpoint, but I could be wrong.
    , @haploid
    and yet he won't, too salient. instead, this mulberry bush "gotcha" nonsense
    , @Tiny Duck
    Yes the nation is about to lay the snack down on white supremacists
    , @Thomm
    No. Charlottesville is just a reminder to normal people that White Trashionalists are a) untalented and useless, and b) not very numerous in real life.

    The WN faggot who drove a car to kill a woman wasn't very competent at even that.
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  10. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    When you select some of the castes on that menu, another menu for Subcaste pops up below it.

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  11. Sunbeam says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Start an open thread on Charlottesville...it's a turning point in US History...

    “Start an open thread on Charlottesville…it’s a turning point in US History…”

    Really? Why exactly? The whole thing is full of smoke right now. They have arrested someone, but the details are up in the air.

    I have seen some statements that the guy was anti-Trump based on facebook postings.

    No idea. It’s possible he was one of the antifa crew, got his car rocked by the crowd, panicked and had an incident.

    Or he is exactly what it says on the label. No idea yet. His mug shot though shows he has that odd haircut Spencer has (isn’t that some kind of Nazi era fad? Think I’ve seen similar cuts on military folks though, but not recently, more 50′s/60′s kind of stuff).

    We’ll see. But either way, why is it a turning point? SSDD from my viewpoint, but I could be wrong.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    It's a turning point in US History because Southern White Voters put Trump into the Whitehouse.The full racial-ethnic spectrum of the Democratic Party is demanding that Trump and Sessions go after the Alt Right. The Alt Right is a proxy and vanguard movement for millions of White Males.....The Democratic Party understands this very obvious point. That's why Terry McCauliffe behind closed doors plotted the annhilation of the Alt Right in Charlottesville.


    You should read the twitter feeds of Preet Bharra and Vandita Gupta...names as American as Apple Pie....to see where there this is all going.....


    How is Trump going to respond to Charlottesville? Bombing North Korea?...Bombing Venezuela?...Bombing Iran?....We are quite possibly on the verge of a Civil War...Trump may deal with this by bombing the aforementioned Nations as a way of dealing with his angry White Male Voting Base...and Democratic Party Voting Bloc that wants him impeached and jailed for treason...


    And I didn't even mention Muellers' investigation....The shit can hit the fan tomorrow.....


    We are getting very close to secession because of Charlottesville.....

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  12. @PiltdownMan
    It's even worse than that.

    I picked Sundar Pichai's (sub) caste, which another commenter had mentioned in an earlier thread.

    I got a pull-down menu for another six sub-sub-castes.

    Eventually you’ll get down to one of his cousins.

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    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Eventually you’ll get down to one of his cousins.
     
    Lol!

    Apparently, the sub-sub castes are designed to prevent intermarriage of closely related persons, and are a kind of mix and match system.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/gotra
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  13. nebulafox says:

    22 different official languages, many of which don’t even an alphabet or a racial origin. Lee Kwan Yew, as he was in so many things, was right on this one: India is best thought of as 32 separate nations that happen to be arrayed along the British rail line.

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    22 different official languages, many of which don’t even an alphabet or a racial origin.
     
    I'm not sure what is meant by "racial origin" but a simple search reveals that the 22 official languages of India are written in 13 different scripts. Some languages employ more than one script, which is not unique to those Indian languages. Japanese has four different orthographies.
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  14. Peterike says:

    Is there a gay marriage option?

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    • Replies: @Dot Not Feather
    Not quite the same but fun fact: during the Mughal era (maybe still now?) there were several different Hindu and Muslim eunuch groups who were as endogamous as could be given the circumstances. The current LGBTUnicode hair-splitting sounds like something Indian mothers could get behind.
    , @anon
    Are you telling me you didn't think the same thing all the rest of is thought when you saw the word "Dikshit"?
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  15. haploid says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Start an open thread on Charlottesville...it's a turning point in US History...

    and yet he won’t, too salient. instead, this mulberry bush “gotcha” nonsense

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  16. If you really wanted to make it simple you would just ask your mother* to pick a spouse for you. She knows what you are and who would be good for you.

    *Because India is a patriarchy you see.

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    • Replies: @Moshe
    Indeed.

    I dated a Saudi girl (from and in Jordan) who talked to her mother like ten times a day but who told me matter-of-factly that if her family knew that she was with me her mother would give thr order to her brothers to kill her.

    That really surprised me because I figured that her mother was powerless but would do everything to save her. SK clarified for me that her mother absolutely loved her but that would have no bearing on her command to her brothers. That's just how these (sad) things roll.

    Point of it is that it isn't the father or brothers who make the decision, it's the mom.
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  17. @Peterike
    Is there a gay marriage option?

    Not quite the same but fun fact: during the Mughal era (maybe still now?) there were several different Hindu and Muslim eunuch groups who were as endogamous as could be given the circumstances. The current LGBTUnicode hair-splitting sounds like something Indian mothers could get behind.

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    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    ...there were several different Hindu and Muslim eunuch groups who were as endogamous as could be given the circumstances.
     
    How can a eunuch be endogamous? Or exogamous, for that matter?
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  18. @Sunbeam
    "Start an open thread on Charlottesville…it’s a turning point in US History…"

    Really? Why exactly? The whole thing is full of smoke right now. They have arrested someone, but the details are up in the air.

    I have seen some statements that the guy was anti-Trump based on facebook postings.

    No idea. It's possible he was one of the antifa crew, got his car rocked by the crowd, panicked and had an incident.

    Or he is exactly what it says on the label. No idea yet. His mug shot though shows he has that odd haircut Spencer has (isn't that some kind of Nazi era fad? Think I've seen similar cuts on military folks though, but not recently, more 50's/60's kind of stuff).

    We'll see. But either way, why is it a turning point? SSDD from my viewpoint, but I could be wrong.

    It’s a turning point in US History because Southern White Voters put Trump into the Whitehouse.The full racial-ethnic spectrum of the Democratic Party is demanding that Trump and Sessions go after the Alt Right. The Alt Right is a proxy and vanguard movement for millions of White Males…..The Democratic Party understands this very obvious point. That’s why Terry McCauliffe behind closed doors plotted the annhilation of the Alt Right in Charlottesville.

    You should read the twitter feeds of Preet Bharra and Vandita Gupta…names as American as Apple Pie….to see where there this is all going…..

    How is Trump going to respond to Charlottesville? Bombing North Korea?…Bombing Venezuela?…Bombing Iran?….We are quite possibly on the verge of a Civil War…Trump may deal with this by bombing the aforementioned Nations as a way of dealing with his angry White Male Voting Base…and Democratic Party Voting Bloc that wants him impeached and jailed for treason…

    And I didn’t even mention Muellers’ investigation….The shit can hit the fan tomorrow…..

    We are getting very close to secession because of Charlottesville…..

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  19. Moshe says:

    Off Topic:

    Found this on Ann Coulter (look at the source):

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/895714574539694080

    The left will say that this shows he was a Hate Thinker all along.

    The right will say that the recent unfortunateness Redpilled him.

    My guess is that the mind gains verdancy and makes better acquaintance with the mouth when the chains of mental and verbal oppressions are removed.

    Then again, teaching evolution to smart kids for years means he has probably said this kind of thing for years but with less sarcasm and in more than 140 characters.

    Personally, I would hate for him to start being identified as a member of the Right. I think it is better and more accurate for him to be seen as a Bernie Sanders type persecuted by the victimology left for not walking in lockstep with all their stupidity. If he is identified as a NeoPaleoConservative then it still seems like a tug of war rather than 90% of the country laughing at the illiterate and insane sjws.

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    LOL at the Bernstein tweet!

    If by some chance (and against every force in the known universe) Bernie had been elected, how do you suppose things would have turned out?

    I have a theory about the swamp. It's 95% quicksand which makes it very hard to drain, and it sucks any political neophyte into its depths before you can say 'We're going to stop being the world's policeman.'
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  20. Moshe says:

    On the same Off Topic:

    I don’t know how much about this fellow except that he’s apparently a professor in good standing among his colleagues who is very much opposed to the sjw shutdown of free thought and Free Speech. Apparently he came to the fore in the public eye during the Charles Murray debacle. Anyhow, it looks like the victimology left focuses its attention kess on right-wingers than on leftists to don’t walk in lockstep.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/evolutionistrue?lang=en

    I don’t know much about Twitter to be able to swear whether you see the same thing that I do but when I look at this guy’s Twitter page almost every tweet of his that includes a picture, usually of animals, is labeled as sensitive material. I think there are sjws who work full-time on trying to mess up the pages and reputationsnof left wing professsors who support free speech and sanity.

    Anyway, it’s a curiosity to me and I don’t know much about it. I just happened to have encountered these two tweets right now. Is there anything to my guess?

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  21. Moshe says:
    @Dot Not Feather
    If you really wanted to make it simple you would just ask your mother* to pick a spouse for you. She knows what you are and who would be good for you.

    *Because India is a patriarchy you see.

    Indeed.

    I dated a Saudi girl (from and in Jordan) who talked to her mother like ten times a day but who told me matter-of-factly that if her family knew that she was with me her mother would give thr order to her brothers to kill her.

    That really surprised me because I figured that her mother was powerless but would do everything to save her. SK clarified for me that her mother absolutely loved her but that would have no bearing on her command to her brothers. That’s just how these (sad) things roll.

    Point of it is that it isn’t the father or brothers who make the decision, it’s the mom.

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    • Replies: @TheJester
    Yes, in Saudi Arabia mothers rule the roost ... at least with their children throughout their lives. Perhaps this is a kind of social compensation for how husbands (mis)treat their wives.

    I was a military advisor and then a contractor in Saudi Arabia for nine years. One of my enduring experiences was setting up a trip to the States for Saudi military officers for a program management review. One Saudi Lieutenant Colonel said he didn't know if he could go. He needed permission from his mother to leave the Kingdom. In other cases, Saudi military officers would disappear for months. Their mothers called them back to their home villages.

    The family dynamics in the Middle East as well as India, Pakistan, etc., are never what they appear on the surface. Very complex as one would expect with endogenous racial, clan, tribal, religious, and caste-based societies. India probably wins the bet on social complexity since it is all five at the same time.

    What, Indians deny there is a caste system or anything of the sort in India?
    , @Anonymous
    I've long thought that we would be better off dealing with ANY possible conqueror of Saudi Arabia than with the Saudis themselves. Therefore just let them go to hell.
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  22. Tiny Duck says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Start an open thread on Charlottesville...it's a turning point in US History...

    Yes the nation is about to lay the snack down on white supremacists

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    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    To the contrary. People like you have caused a sleeping giant to wake up. You and yours will not like what the future holds.
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  23. TG says:

    OK, sure India complicated.

    But it’s also simple.

    India is what Malthus warned about. People having more children than they can support, resulting in mass misery and – NOT generally starvation – but rather, chronic hunger and malnutrition. I think I read that in India today there are like a half a billion people suffering from chronic malnutrition, and much of the remainder are just one missing meal away from this state…

    Now sure societies are complex, and there is a lot going on here, but I propose that nothing causes people to become more open to each other and willing to assimilate than shared prosperity. On the other hand, a zero-sum society, where there is not enough to go around and the only way you can eat is if someone else does not, promotes division and us-against-then and nepotism and people clinging to dear life for every tine scrap of advantage from family or caste etc.

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    • Replies: @Kaz
    India's fertility rate is trending towards a steady state.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=india+fertility+rate&oq=india+fertility+rate&aqs=chrome

    Probably why Steve brings it up less than Nigeria.

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  24. @nebulafox
    22 different official languages, many of which don't even an alphabet or a racial origin. Lee Kwan Yew, as he was in so many things, was right on this one: India is best thought of as 32 separate nations that happen to be arrayed along the British rail line.

    22 different official languages, many of which don’t even an alphabet or a racial origin.

    I’m not sure what is meant by “racial origin” but a simple search reveals that the 22 official languages of India are written in 13 different scripts. Some languages employ more than one script, which is not unique to those Indian languages. Japanese has four different orthographies.

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I should have worded that better: I more meant they didn't come from the same family of languages, unlike, say, the different Sintic languages in China or the Romance languages. The South is Dravidian, the North is Indo-Aryan. It underlies just how freaking diverse and complicated the subcontinent is.
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  25. @Buzz Mohawk
    Eventually you'll get down to one of his cousins.

    Eventually you’ll get down to one of his cousins.

    Lol!

    Apparently, the sub-sub castes are designed to prevent intermarriage of closely related persons, and are a kind of mix and match system.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/gotra

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  26. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Will Diversity turn whites into Brahmins or Untouchables?

    White Haves will be Brahmins over Diversity.
    White Have-nots will be Untouchables(or Deplorables) of Diversity.

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  27. Kaz says:
    @TG
    OK, sure India complicated.

    But it's also simple.

    India is what Malthus warned about. People having more children than they can support, resulting in mass misery and - NOT generally starvation - but rather, chronic hunger and malnutrition. I think I read that in India today there are like a half a billion people suffering from chronic malnutrition, and much of the remainder are just one missing meal away from this state...

    Now sure societies are complex, and there is a lot going on here, but I propose that nothing causes people to become more open to each other and willing to assimilate than shared prosperity. On the other hand, a zero-sum society, where there is not enough to go around and the only way you can eat is if someone else does not, promotes division and us-against-then and nepotism and people clinging to dear life for every tine scrap of advantage from family or caste etc.

    India’s fertility rate is trending towards a steady state.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=india+fertility+rate&oq=india+fertility+rate&aqs=chrome

    Probably why Steve brings it up less than Nigeria.

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    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    That's interesting and led me to look at fertility rates for the Indian states, and the 50 states in America.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_fertility_rate
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  28. @Dot Not Feather
    Not quite the same but fun fact: during the Mughal era (maybe still now?) there were several different Hindu and Muslim eunuch groups who were as endogamous as could be given the circumstances. The current LGBTUnicode hair-splitting sounds like something Indian mothers could get behind.

    …there were several different Hindu and Muslim eunuch groups who were as endogamous as could be given the circumstances.

    How can a eunuch be endogamous? Or exogamous, for that matter?

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  29. @Kaz
    India's fertility rate is trending towards a steady state.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=india+fertility+rate&oq=india+fertility+rate&aqs=chrome

    Probably why Steve brings it up less than Nigeria.

    That’s interesting and led me to look at fertility rates for the Indian states, and the 50 states in America.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_fertility_rate

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    • Replies: @Duke of Qin
    The four Bimaru states in red as they are colloquially known currently account for a third of the Indian population (Uttar Pradesh accounts for more than 200 million alone) but closer to two thirds of child births. They are also shit holes even by Indian standards for what it's worth. Literally worse than many Sub-Saharan African levels by almost any metric you care to measure. I honestly don't know if there is actually any emigration from this region making their way to the West but they are already beginning to overflow into the rest of India.
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  30. @Tiny Duck
    Yes the nation is about to lay the snack down on white supremacists

    To the contrary. People like you have caused a sleeping giant to wake up. You and yours will not like what the future holds.

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  31. @PiltdownMan
    That's interesting and led me to look at fertility rates for the Indian states, and the 50 states in America.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_fertility_rate

    The four Bimaru states in red as they are colloquially known currently account for a third of the Indian population (Uttar Pradesh accounts for more than 200 million alone) but closer to two thirds of child births. They are also shit holes even by Indian standards for what it’s worth. Literally worse than many Sub-Saharan African levels by almost any metric you care to measure. I honestly don’t know if there is actually any emigration from this region making their way to the West but they are already beginning to overflow into the rest of India.

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  32. TheJester says:
    @Moshe
    Indeed.

    I dated a Saudi girl (from and in Jordan) who talked to her mother like ten times a day but who told me matter-of-factly that if her family knew that she was with me her mother would give thr order to her brothers to kill her.

    That really surprised me because I figured that her mother was powerless but would do everything to save her. SK clarified for me that her mother absolutely loved her but that would have no bearing on her command to her brothers. That's just how these (sad) things roll.

    Point of it is that it isn't the father or brothers who make the decision, it's the mom.

    Yes, in Saudi Arabia mothers rule the roost … at least with their children throughout their lives. Perhaps this is a kind of social compensation for how husbands (mis)treat their wives.

    I was a military advisor and then a contractor in Saudi Arabia for nine years. One of my enduring experiences was setting up a trip to the States for Saudi military officers for a program management review. One Saudi Lieutenant Colonel said he didn’t know if he could go. He needed permission from his mother to leave the Kingdom. In other cases, Saudi military officers would disappear for months. Their mothers called them back to their home villages.

    The family dynamics in the Middle East as well as India, Pakistan, etc., are never what they appear on the surface. Very complex as one would expect with endogenous racial, clan, tribal, religious, and caste-based societies. India probably wins the bet on social complexity since it is all five at the same time.

    What, Indians deny there is a caste system or anything of the sort in India?

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    • Replies: @Neuday
    Being in IT, I work with many Indians. I became familiar with an Indian girl and asked her about Dalit, and caste, and she became rather angry, saying "It exists if you want it too", but that it's rather backward to want it to.

    FWIW, her IT skills are rather low quality, but she's given birth in a US hospital so he and her family aren't going back.

    Nations, as with castes, exist if you want them to.

    , @Moshe
    I saw something funny in nyc recently when I was going by boat from lower manhattan to Governer's Island (definitely worth a visit) and there was a Saudi guy there with 3 wives. They were outside enjoying the ride like I was and the guy very clearly just wanted to mindlessly enjoy the ripples of water and relax.

    It was not to be.

    Each of his wives shlepped him to the stern to take a dozen selfies. Yes, taking selfies seems useless in a Burqa but apparently they didn't feel that way (when all your girlfriends and sisters wear burqas you get used to telling them apart).

    The poor guy was very obviously tired and didn't feel like doing allbof this but the girls didn't implore or beg or whine, they just went and he had to go with them.

    I laughed and pointed it out (quietly) to other tourists.

    Women are women.

    They have skills.
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  33. David says:

    The name Dikshit is almost certainly related to the ancient Greek deiknumi, show, from which comes paradigm. Related to digit, too, as in using a finger to point at something.

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  34. Caste in India is a highly sensitive issue. You think AA and “diversity” quotas are bad here? In India, they have very specific, government mandated quotas for castes. It’s led to a huge mess and tons of incompetence, since lower castes (due to historical issues) have poor education and thus have poor job performance. Add to this that caste is neither mentioned nor officially recognized by the Indian constitution or government, and you’ve got a diversity/AA shitstorm that serves as a cautionary tale for other countries.

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  35. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The name Dikshit is almost certainly related to the ancient Greek deiknumi, show, from which comes paradigm. Related to digit, too, as in using a finger to point at something.

    The root of the word dikshit is the Sanskrit word diksha, which means to initiate or consecrate, such as a teacher or mentor consecrating the relationship with a new pupil and giving or imparting knowledge.

    Dikshit
    then become the masculine “he who imparts/gives” and dikshita is the feminine gendered word for guru/master.

    That would be consistent with the Greek sense of the word. The master/guru shows the novice the way to knowledge.

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  36. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Peterike
    Is there a gay marriage option?

    Are you telling me you didn’t think the same thing all the rest of is thought when you saw the word “Dikshit”?

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  37. grapesoda says:

    Regarding 90% of the comments on this thread:

    Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

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  38. Neuday says:
    @TheJester
    Yes, in Saudi Arabia mothers rule the roost ... at least with their children throughout their lives. Perhaps this is a kind of social compensation for how husbands (mis)treat their wives.

    I was a military advisor and then a contractor in Saudi Arabia for nine years. One of my enduring experiences was setting up a trip to the States for Saudi military officers for a program management review. One Saudi Lieutenant Colonel said he didn't know if he could go. He needed permission from his mother to leave the Kingdom. In other cases, Saudi military officers would disappear for months. Their mothers called them back to their home villages.

    The family dynamics in the Middle East as well as India, Pakistan, etc., are never what they appear on the surface. Very complex as one would expect with endogenous racial, clan, tribal, religious, and caste-based societies. India probably wins the bet on social complexity since it is all five at the same time.

    What, Indians deny there is a caste system or anything of the sort in India?

    Being in IT, I work with many Indians. I became familiar with an Indian girl and asked her about Dalit, and caste, and she became rather angry, saying “It exists if you want it too”, but that it’s rather backward to want it to.

    FWIW, her IT skills are rather low quality, but she’s given birth in a US hospital so he and her family aren’t going back.

    Nations, as with castes, exist if you want them to.

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  39. I wonder how the Indian readers of unz.com celebrating
    their victory over China in Doklam plateau.

    Or is it too early to celebrate?

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  40. Moshe says:
    @TheJester
    Yes, in Saudi Arabia mothers rule the roost ... at least with their children throughout their lives. Perhaps this is a kind of social compensation for how husbands (mis)treat their wives.

    I was a military advisor and then a contractor in Saudi Arabia for nine years. One of my enduring experiences was setting up a trip to the States for Saudi military officers for a program management review. One Saudi Lieutenant Colonel said he didn't know if he could go. He needed permission from his mother to leave the Kingdom. In other cases, Saudi military officers would disappear for months. Their mothers called them back to their home villages.

    The family dynamics in the Middle East as well as India, Pakistan, etc., are never what they appear on the surface. Very complex as one would expect with endogenous racial, clan, tribal, religious, and caste-based societies. India probably wins the bet on social complexity since it is all five at the same time.

    What, Indians deny there is a caste system or anything of the sort in India?

    I saw something funny in nyc recently when I was going by boat from lower manhattan to Governer’s Island (definitely worth a visit) and there was a Saudi guy there with 3 wives. They were outside enjoying the ride like I was and the guy very clearly just wanted to mindlessly enjoy the ripples of water and relax.

    It was not to be.

    Each of his wives shlepped him to the stern to take a dozen selfies. Yes, taking selfies seems useless in a Burqa but apparently they didn’t feel that way (when all your girlfriends and sisters wear burqas you get used to telling them apart).

    The poor guy was very obviously tired and didn’t feel like doing allbof this but the girls didn’t implore or beg or whine, they just went and he had to go with them.

    I laughed and pointed it out (quietly) to other tourists.

    Women are women.

    They have skills.

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  41. @JW Bell
    I bet a significant percent of guys put "Doesn't Matter" and zero women do.

    I bet a significant percent of guys put “Doesn’t Matter” …

    Not if their mother has anything to say about it!

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  42. nebulafox says:
    @PiltdownMan

    22 different official languages, many of which don’t even an alphabet or a racial origin.
     
    I'm not sure what is meant by "racial origin" but a simple search reveals that the 22 official languages of India are written in 13 different scripts. Some languages employ more than one script, which is not unique to those Indian languages. Japanese has four different orthographies.

    I should have worded that better: I more meant they didn’t come from the same family of languages, unlike, say, the different Sintic languages in China or the Romance languages. The South is Dravidian, the North is Indo-Aryan. It underlies just how freaking diverse and complicated the subcontinent is.

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  43. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Start an open thread on Charlottesville...it's a turning point in US History...

    No. Charlottesville is just a reminder to normal people that White Trashionalists are a) untalented and useless, and b) not very numerous in real life.

    The WN faggot who drove a car to kill a woman wasn’t very competent at even that.

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    I don't particularly support their efforts to give Jews "helicopter rides" or whatever but I wonder if this guy purposefully ran people over rather than feeling that his life was in danger from the mob and/or having some kind of blacknout disconnect.

    I prefer that it was fully purposeful because I like fun stuff and I'm not too concerned that in the age of trump thisbwould lead to draconian anti-white stuff. I mean it may lead to even more invasions of our privacy and personal secrecy/lives but, come on, that's coming one way or another.

    But, it seems odd that a guy would do that crash on purpose. For all that theae guys speak about how even the regular left are their sworn enemies whose leaders must be hanged they don't really believe it. Black nationalists believe it and are happy to kill for it Now. White, let's say, Supremacists, want to do it in sone utopian nazi future. I don't think they've eaten their own dog foor or that some (sane) supporter woul--

    Check that. The antida guys WERE their real enemy. Little ole me and Lot will have to go the gas chambers when the time comes but these antifa were literally fighting them as much as you can in an american street.

    I could see someone losing it and responding with 1st degree murder.

    But I still wonder whether there isn't more to the story.

    P.S. On a personal level I more or less like everyone. And I have searxhed for klansmen and have had serious and sincere convos with people who were about as close to klanners as you can get (but not klanners). On a War level however, obviously anyone who wants to kill me or anyone who thinks that I want to kill HIM (like that nutjob who thinks that guys under 5"9 want to kill everyone taller than them) will arouse in me the logical conclusion that I of course must endeavor to kill him. At this point however, so far as I can tell, very very few do (aside for the holocaust museum kikler and the jcc's killer and..?) Should they gain serious power however I will of course be more extreme in my methods than the (currently vile) antifa. Someone who SERIOUSLY wants to AND CAN kill (or enslave or exile or imprison) me or anyone I know or care about will be taken down by non-victimologist, happy and sane and smart people like me.

    But that time is not now and unless Steve, with his incredible track record of predictions, says otherwise, I doubt such a thing is likely to happen here for the foreseeable future.
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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Moshe
    Indeed.

    I dated a Saudi girl (from and in Jordan) who talked to her mother like ten times a day but who told me matter-of-factly that if her family knew that she was with me her mother would give thr order to her brothers to kill her.

    That really surprised me because I figured that her mother was powerless but would do everything to save her. SK clarified for me that her mother absolutely loved her but that would have no bearing on her command to her brothers. That's just how these (sad) things roll.

    Point of it is that it isn't the father or brothers who make the decision, it's the mom.

    I’ve long thought that we would be better off dealing with ANY possible conqueror of Saudi Arabia than with the Saudis themselves. Therefore just let them go to hell.

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  45. Moshe says:
    @Thomm
    No. Charlottesville is just a reminder to normal people that White Trashionalists are a) untalented and useless, and b) not very numerous in real life.

    The WN faggot who drove a car to kill a woman wasn't very competent at even that.

    I don’t particularly support their efforts to give Jews “helicopter rides” or whatever but I wonder if this guy purposefully ran people over rather than feeling that his life was in danger from the mob and/or having some kind of blacknout disconnect.

    I prefer that it was fully purposeful because I like fun stuff and I’m not too concerned that in the age of trump thisbwould lead to draconian anti-white stuff. I mean it may lead to even more invasions of our privacy and personal secrecy/lives but, come on, that’s coming one way or another.

    But, it seems odd that a guy would do that crash on purpose. For all that theae guys speak about how even the regular left are their sworn enemies whose leaders must be hanged they don’t really believe it. Black nationalists believe it and are happy to kill for it Now. White, let’s say, Supremacists, want to do it in sone utopian nazi future. I don’t think they’ve eaten their own dog foor or that some (sane) supporter woul–

    Check that. The antida guys WERE their real enemy. Little ole me and Lot will have to go the gas chambers when the time comes but these antifa were literally fighting them as much as you can in an american street.

    I could see someone losing it and responding with 1st degree murder.

    But I still wonder whether there isn’t more to the story.

    P.S. On a personal level I more or less like everyone. And I have searxhed for klansmen and have had serious and sincere convos with people who were about as close to klanners as you can get (but not klanners). On a War level however, obviously anyone who wants to kill me or anyone who thinks that I want to kill HIM (like that nutjob who thinks that guys under 5″9 want to kill everyone taller than them) will arouse in me the logical conclusion that I of course must endeavor to kill him. At this point however, so far as I can tell, very very few do (aside for the holocaust museum kikler and the jcc’s killer and..?) Should they gain serious power however I will of course be more extreme in my methods than the (currently vile) antifa. Someone who SERIOUSLY wants to AND CAN kill (or enslave or exile or imprison) me or anyone I know or care about will be taken down by non-victimologist, happy and sane and smart people like me.

    But that time is not now and unless Steve, with his incredible track record of predictions, says otherwise, I doubt such a thing is likely to happen here for the foreseeable future.

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  46. @Moshe
    Off Topic:

    Found this on Ann Coulter (look at the source):

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/895714574539694080

    The left will say that this shows he was a Hate Thinker all along.

    The right will say that the recent unfortunateness Redpilled him.

    My guess is that the mind gains verdancy and makes better acquaintance with the mouth when the chains of mental and verbal oppressions are removed.

    Then again, teaching evolution to smart kids for years means he has probably said this kind of thing for years but with less sarcasm and in more than 140 characters.

    Personally, I would hate for him to start being identified as a member of the Right. I think it is better and more accurate for him to be seen as a Bernie Sanders type persecuted by the victimology left for not walking in lockstep with all their stupidity. If he is identified as a NeoPaleoConservative then it still seems like a tug of war rather than 90% of the country laughing at the illiterate and insane sjws.

    LOL at the Bernstein tweet!

    If by some chance (and against every force in the known universe) Bernie had been elected, how do you suppose things would have turned out?

    I have a theory about the swamp. It’s 95% quicksand which makes it very hard to drain, and it sucks any political neophyte into its depths before you can say ‘We’re going to stop being the world’s policeman.’

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  47. Graham says:

    Sir Charles Dilke, a British politician, travelled around the world visiting many of the English-speaking countries in the late 1860s. Here are some of his remarks about caste in India, from his book, Greater Britain.

    “The Northwest Provinces include the great towns of Benares, Agra, and Allahabad, and the census fell into my hands at Benares itself, at the Sanscrit College. It was a strange production, and seemed to have brought together a mass of information respecting castes and creeds which was new even to those who had lived long in the Northwest Provinces. All callings in India being hereditary, there were entries recording the presence in certain towns of “hereditary clerks who pray to their inkhorns,” “hereditary beggars,” “hereditary planters of slips or cuttings,” “hereditary grave-diggers,” “hereditary hermits,” and “hereditary hangmen,” for in India a hangmanship descends with as much regularity as a crown. In the single district of the Dehra Valley, there are 1500 “hereditary tomtom men”–drummers at the festivals; 234 Brahmins of Bijnour returned themselves as having for profession “the receipt of presents to avert the influence of evil stars.” In Bijnour, there are also fifteen people of a caste which professes “the pleasing of people by assuming disguises,” while at Benares there is a whole caste–the Bhâts–whose hereditary occupation is to “satirize the enemies of the rich, and to praise their friends.” In the Northwest Provinces, there are 572 distinct castes in all.

    The accounts which some castes gave of their origin read strangely in a solemn governmental document: the members of one caste described themselves as “descended from Maicasur, a demon;” but some of the records are less legendary and more historic. One caste in the Dehra Valley sent in a note that they came in 1000 A.D. from the Deccan; another, that they emigrated from Arabia 500 years ago. The Gour Brahmins claim to have been in the district of Moozuffernuggur for 5000
    years.

    Under the title of “occupations,” the heads of families alone were given, and not the number of those dependent on them, whence it comes that in the whole province only “11,000 tomtom players” were set down. The habits and tastes of the people are easily seen in the entries: “3600 firework manufacturers,” “45 makers of crowns for idols,” “4353 gold-bangle makers,” “29,136 glass-bangle makers,” “1123 astrologers.” There are also 145 “ear-cleaners,” besides “kite-makers,” “ear-piercers,” “pedigree-makers,” “makers of caste-marks,” “cow-dung sellers,” and “hereditary painters of horses with spots.” There was no backwardness in the followers of maligned pursuits: 974 people in Allahabad described themselves as “low blackguards,” 35 as “men who beg with threats of violence,” 25 as “hereditary robbers,” 479,015 as “beggars,” 29 as “howlers at funerals,” 226 as “flatterers for gain;” “vagabonds,” “charmers,” “informers” were all set down, and 1100 returned themselves as “hereditary buffoons,” while 2000 styled themselves “conjurers,” 4000 “acrobats,” and 6372 “poets.” In one district alone, there were 777 “soothsayers and astrologers” by profession.”

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  48. I am half Indian and half European.

    Am I unwelcome here?

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