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Sure, Mr. Conyers, who has been in the House representing Detroit since people used to live there, has been tomcatting about on the taxpayers’ tab. But … show some sympathy: above is Mrs. Conyers, formerly of the Detroit city council before getting sentenced to 37 months in prison for bribery, calling a fellow council member “Shrek.”

 
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    I love vibrancy in political deliberations.

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  2. whorefinder says: • Website

    Again: why is Birth of A Nation proving more prescient year after year?

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    Because we have grown men, now who identfy themselves as "whorefinder?"

    No wait, they're white, scratch that, don't know.
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  3. Berty says:

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations were.

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    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations wer
     
    Doesn't surprise me, the Left uses a lot of front men as useful idiots.

    For example, when Justice Harry Blackmun started going senile/had stroke-like behavior, he suddenly morphed from a serious legal mind into one full of emotional outbursts with very little legal reasoning beyond vague assertions about a living constitution. And of course he moved very far left at the same time--Roe was just the beginning.

    It turns out most of Blackmun's later briefs (post-Roe) were fully written by his clerks with little to none of his own input beyond unseemly emotional interjections ("Poor Joshua!", I believe, was one of his additions to a case involving an injured child). (Plus he had a personality change---whereas he literally grew up best friends with Chief Justice Burger, he more and more started to disparage Burger as he grew intellectually less savvy)

    Justice Thurgood Marshall (the first black) was even less intelligent. He famously spent his afternoons watching soap operas while his clerks wrote everything. Absolute intellectual dunderhead.

    As a side note, it would be interesting to know how Blackmun and Marshall selected their clerks---and if anyone or any group "strongly recommended" folks who ended up being the clerks.

    , @Luke Lea

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called.
     
    I was an elevator operator in the Old Senate Office Building in the summer of 1962. Senator Wiley from Wisconsin was completely senile at the time. When the doors opened on the top floor he would get on with his wife and proceed to poke all the tourists on board in their belly buttons with his index finger. When we reached the basement his wife would lead him off to the underground trolley that led to the Capital saying, "We're going to vote dear."
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  4. Washington DC is building a statue to Mayor Marion Barry. Say what you will, but the guy was quite the character. A Man of Another Era.

    It’s pretty astounding how much DC has metamorphosed in the last 25 years from urban hellhole to one of the most pleasant cities in America. It’s unnerving how upscale it has become and rather depressing to think where all that money comes from. Being the Heart of The Empire has its benefits.

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  5. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Berty
    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers' family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he's called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations were.

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations wer

    Doesn’t surprise me, the Left uses a lot of front men as useful idiots.

    For example, when Justice Harry Blackmun started going senile/had stroke-like behavior, he suddenly morphed from a serious legal mind into one full of emotional outbursts with very little legal reasoning beyond vague assertions about a living constitution. And of course he moved very far left at the same time–Roe was just the beginning.

    It turns out most of Blackmun’s later briefs (post-Roe) were fully written by his clerks with little to none of his own input beyond unseemly emotional interjections (“Poor Joshua!”, I believe, was one of his additions to a case involving an injured child). (Plus he had a personality change—whereas he literally grew up best friends with Chief Justice Burger, he more and more started to disparage Burger as he grew intellectually less savvy)

    Justice Thurgood Marshall (the first black) was even less intelligent. He famously spent his afternoons watching soap operas while his clerks wrote everything. Absolute intellectual dunderhead.

    As a side note, it would be interesting to know how Blackmun and Marshall selected their clerks—and if anyone or any group “strongly recommended” folks who ended up being the clerks.

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    William O. Douglas too. His unseemly ties to the Parvin Foundation (controlled by Albert Parvin, a Las Vegas casion owner with mob ties) were motivated by the financial shellacking that Douglas took after his three divorces nearly led to his impeachment. In 1974, Douglas suffered a severe stroke which left him incapacitated. Yet he refused to resign until about a year later. His fellow Justices secretly agreed to carry over any case in which Douglas's vote would have been decisive.

    Another good argument to elect and term-limit federal judges, but good luck with that.
    , @EdwardM
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg seems practically invalid these days, and I can imagine them pulling a "Weekend at Bernie's" if that's what it takes to hold out until a Democratic president is in office.
    , @Ivy
    Blackmun being manipulated by clerks, who pass off their work and political agendas as his, goes well beyond how clerks and Supremes are supposed to work together. It is one thing for clerks to research, summarize and draft for a competent and engaged Justice to review, revise and approve. It is quite another to have said Justice essentially writing his or her X mark on an opinion that may very well not be understood or even read.

    For the conspiratorial-minded, spiked drinks, adulterated food and, ahem, 'prescriptions' could play roles in influencing activities that the average citizen would assume to be undertaken in a state as sober as a judge. Any opinions written when non compos mentis should be discarded, and the other Justices should have some objective mechanisms to get those afflicted ones off the Bench. How to do that could be problematic, but just nodding, winking and shuffling cases around as has been discussed just does not seem to live up to what the Constitution drafters had in mind. Do we as a country really need drooling and doddering incompetents when clear-headed legal scholars are required?
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  6. Truth says:
    @whorefinder
    Again: why is Birth of A Nation proving more prescient year after year?

    Because we have grown men, now who identfy themselves as “whorefinder?”

    No wait, they’re white, scratch that, don’t know.

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    lol. Butthurt mark says what?

    It's cute, though, that you blame black people's bad behavior on....white guys.
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  7. Luke Lea says:
    @Berty
    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers' family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he's called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations were.

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called.

    I was an elevator operator in the Old Senate Office Building in the summer of 1962. Senator Wiley from Wisconsin was completely senile at the time. When the doors opened on the top floor he would get on with his wife and proceed to poke all the tourists on board in their belly buttons with his index finger. When we reached the basement his wife would lead him off to the underground trolley that led to the Capital saying, “We’re going to vote dear.”

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    I worked on Capitol Hill in the 1980s and 90s. Jamie Whitten (first elected 1941) in his dotage was pathetic and not even entertaining.
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  8. Someone once said that the happiest man was a ship’s captain who made his voyages across a sea between two cities and kept a wife and family in each city.

    He had loved ones waiting for him upon each arrival and wishing him well at each departure, while in between he had solitude, the camaraderie of his men, and the majesty of nature. In this way, he had everything a man needs.

    It would seem that for Mr. Conyers it is best to sail back to Detroit as seldom as possible.

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    In the meantime, he had "rum" and "sodomy" (if not "the lash"). Some of us are willing to put up with a lot to avoid the latter.
    , @Big Bill
    So true. As a man who shipped out on the "Lovers Run" (e. g. Lykes Brothers ships on Gulf Coast South America schedules) I can attest to this. There were guys who stayed on one ship and spent 20+ years commuting between their families.

    Google the folk song "A Wife in Every Port".

    Men have a greater capacity for love and family affection than one wife can accomodate. Think of all the greedy, self-centered American wives who castigate men as "unfaithful" when in fact their sailor husbands are just trying to share their immense capacity for family love with other, less fortunate women and children around the world.

    There is one bright spot on the horizon. Come sharia law in America and Europe, the Western female concept of "unfaithfulness" will go extinct, and Western men will be free to share their love and affection for more than one wife and family.
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  9. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Truth
    Because we have grown men, now who identfy themselves as "whorefinder?"

    No wait, they're white, scratch that, don't know.

    lol. Butthurt mark says what?

    It’s cute, though, that you blame black people’s bad behavior on….white guys.

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  10. Shrek came from Dream Works/Universal. If it had been Disney, they’d have sued Mrs Conyers to kingdom come for trademark infringement, race be damned.

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    This is very true. They protect their branding ferociously!
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    LOL

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  12. guest says:

    Shrek was trying to culturally appropriate Robert’s Rules of Order. She’s merely “keeping it real.”

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    I was thinking the same thing when I saw the Detroit City Council video. Robert's Rules of Order are just too white, aren't they? I wonder why the black folks of Detroit continue to impose Robert's on their own (now-black) elders and representatives in council when Robert's just doesn't work.

    Surely there must be some equivalent African traditions that would be more appropriate and comfortable for them. Maybe sitting in a circle outside under the stars, and passing a torch from speaker to speaker as each man stands to take the floor and speak. Surely African tribes face the same difficulties when their elders gather to discuss matters of importance.
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  13. guest says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Someone once said that the happiest man was a ship's captain who made his voyages across a sea between two cities and kept a wife and family in each city.

    He had loved ones waiting for him upon each arrival and wishing him well at each departure, while in between he had solitude, the camaraderie of his men, and the majesty of nature. In this way, he had everything a man needs.

    It would seem that for Mr. Conyers it is best to sail back to Detroit as seldom as possible.

    In the meantime, he had “rum” and “sodomy” (if not “the lash”). Some of us are willing to put up with a lot to avoid the latter.

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  14. You can save your sympathy for John Conyers. When he got married, all he cared about was his wife’s age. He was 61 and she was 25. Monica Conyer’s father and two of her four brothers have criminal records, breaking and entering, robbery, and weapons violations.

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  15. guest says:

    She says something about controlling his house and treating his wife better. Then he says, “You’re the last one to talk.” Could that be a knowing reference to how her husband treats her, or is it about how she treats her husband? Or neither?

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  17. @Luke Lea

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called.
     
    I was an elevator operator in the Old Senate Office Building in the summer of 1962. Senator Wiley from Wisconsin was completely senile at the time. When the doors opened on the top floor he would get on with his wife and proceed to poke all the tourists on board in their belly buttons with his index finger. When we reached the basement his wife would lead him off to the underground trolley that led to the Capital saying, "We're going to vote dear."

    I worked on Capitol Hill in the 1980s and 90s. Jamie Whitten (first elected 1941) in his dotage was pathetic and not even entertaining.

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  18. Sure, Mr. Conyers, who has been in the House representing Detroit since people used to live there, …

    Wait, did you put the emphasis on PEOPLE, not LIVE? That seemed a little hard-core even for our host here! I did read it that way, but I understood what you meant about 10 seconds later.

    Sure, Mr. Conyers, who has been in the House representing Detroit since people used to live there, …

    OK, got it.

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    Could have the same meaning either way you read it. People aren't the only things that live. Detroit is certainly full of creepy-crawlies.
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  19. I wish a phonologist and a rhetorician would explain American black women’s vocal range for screaming and scolding. I note that it is possible to use this range in singing where it is amusing if there is not too much of it. I note also that black men cannot appropriate the scolding/screaming vocal range unless they’re gay. I remember a stud black guy run off a public bus by 3 black chicks harrassing him with non-stop insults/screaming full-out pedal to the metal. The driver, a middle-aged black man, waited patiently as this mini-drama played out. The next step would have been to call the cops but the driver let it play out and resolve itself by the dude being driven off the bus. Bus riding can be boring enlivened only very rarely. This is in mid-town Austin. Black-white relations are amicable here so far as I know. The local TV news sometimes reports murders per year. Less than 30 IIRC. Our police chief was on-the-make and recently became police chief in Houston!

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  20. guest says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Sure, Mr. Conyers, who has been in the House representing Detroit since people used to live there, ...
     
    Wait, did you put the emphasis on PEOPLE, not LIVE? That seemed a little hard-core even for our host here! I did read it that way, but I understood what you meant about 10 seconds later.

    Sure, Mr. Conyers, who has been in the House representing Detroit since people used to live there, ...
     
    OK, got it.

    Could have the same meaning either way you read it. People aren’t the only things that live. Detroit is certainly full of creepy-crawlies.

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  21. Brabantian says: • Website

    An important and more sympathetic story of John Conyers and the criminal charges against his wife: Those charges were said to be part of an assassination threat against Conyers after Conyers was duped by the Obama fraud, and Conyers was about to launch a massive anti-corruption campaign against USA bribe-taking judges, who jail innocent blacks and maul all US citizens in general

    The key background is that in 1998, Conyers’ fellow House Judiciary Committee member, Sonny Bono – yes the pop star other half of the long-ago Sonny & Cher singing duo – was murdered whilst investigating corruption, in what former FBI agents declared was one of the many USA political assassinations (there are a whole string of suspiciously dead US Congressmen, federal & Supreme Court judges, etc if you care to dig a little)

    As Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers was arguably the key public figure in terms of the Constitution of the United States, which makes Congress supreme in removing any & all United States judges, including the Supreme Court justices, merely for ‘bad behaviour’, i.e., not honouring the US Constitution – no allegation of crime is necessary

    This power is almost never used, however, with Congress submissive to the erroneous myth that US judges are ‘supreme’, wheras the US Constitution makes it clear that it is Congress that is on top, with unlimited powers to impeach judges in the House and have the Senate conduct a trial & order their removal … this process starts in the House Judiciary Committee, thus Chairman Conyers was on point as the key figure who can act to remove all federal & Supreme Court judges & the US President, the ‘tribune of the people’

    As Obama was sweeping into the White House in 2008, Conyers – holding massive smoking-gun-evidence files on corrupt US judges, dossiers sent to him over the years by thousands of USA legal system victims – thought he had an opening to begin launching hearings on US judicial corruption, under Obama protection

    Conyers did not realise Obama was a fraud put in place by the USA Deep State … the story is that they quickly threatened to murder Conyers, just like Sonny Bono was killed a decade earlier, and they ran up the criminal charges against Conyers’ wife to underscore the death threat

    And of course Conyers backed down, knowing he would not even live to see the end of any ‘hearings’ … no House Judiciary process was begun on the corrupt judges … probably the key ‘reform’ that needs to be done in the USA

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  22. Big Bill says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Someone once said that the happiest man was a ship's captain who made his voyages across a sea between two cities and kept a wife and family in each city.

    He had loved ones waiting for him upon each arrival and wishing him well at each departure, while in between he had solitude, the camaraderie of his men, and the majesty of nature. In this way, he had everything a man needs.

    It would seem that for Mr. Conyers it is best to sail back to Detroit as seldom as possible.

    So true. As a man who shipped out on the “Lovers Run” (e. g. Lykes Brothers ships on Gulf Coast South America schedules) I can attest to this. There were guys who stayed on one ship and spent 20+ years commuting between their families.

    Google the folk song “A Wife in Every Port”.

    Men have a greater capacity for love and family affection than one wife can accomodate. Think of all the greedy, self-centered American wives who castigate men as “unfaithful” when in fact their sailor husbands are just trying to share their immense capacity for family love with other, less fortunate women and children around the world.

    There is one bright spot on the horizon. Come sharia law in America and Europe, the Western female concept of “unfaithfulness” will go extinct, and Western men will be free to share their love and affection for more than one wife and family.

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  23. @whorefinder

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations wer
     
    Doesn't surprise me, the Left uses a lot of front men as useful idiots.

    For example, when Justice Harry Blackmun started going senile/had stroke-like behavior, he suddenly morphed from a serious legal mind into one full of emotional outbursts with very little legal reasoning beyond vague assertions about a living constitution. And of course he moved very far left at the same time--Roe was just the beginning.

    It turns out most of Blackmun's later briefs (post-Roe) were fully written by his clerks with little to none of his own input beyond unseemly emotional interjections ("Poor Joshua!", I believe, was one of his additions to a case involving an injured child). (Plus he had a personality change---whereas he literally grew up best friends with Chief Justice Burger, he more and more started to disparage Burger as he grew intellectually less savvy)

    Justice Thurgood Marshall (the first black) was even less intelligent. He famously spent his afternoons watching soap operas while his clerks wrote everything. Absolute intellectual dunderhead.

    As a side note, it would be interesting to know how Blackmun and Marshall selected their clerks---and if anyone or any group "strongly recommended" folks who ended up being the clerks.

    William O. Douglas too. His unseemly ties to the Parvin Foundation (controlled by Albert Parvin, a Las Vegas casion owner with mob ties) were motivated by the financial shellacking that Douglas took after his three divorces nearly led to his impeachment. In 1974, Douglas suffered a severe stroke which left him incapacitated. Yet he refused to resign until about a year later. His fellow Justices secretly agreed to carry over any case in which Douglas’s vote would have been decisive.

    Another good argument to elect and term-limit federal judges, but good luck with that.

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  24. Big Bill says:
    @guest
    Shrek was trying to culturally appropriate Robert's Rules of Order. She's merely "keeping it real."

    I was thinking the same thing when I saw the Detroit City Council video. Robert’s Rules of Order are just too white, aren’t they? I wonder why the black folks of Detroit continue to impose Robert’s on their own (now-black) elders and representatives in council when Robert’s just doesn’t work.

    Surely there must be some equivalent African traditions that would be more appropriate and comfortable for them. Maybe sitting in a circle outside under the stars, and passing a torch from speaker to speaker as each man stands to take the floor and speak. Surely African tribes face the same difficulties when their elders gather to discuss matters of importance.

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  25. EdwardM says:
    @whorefinder

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations wer
     
    Doesn't surprise me, the Left uses a lot of front men as useful idiots.

    For example, when Justice Harry Blackmun started going senile/had stroke-like behavior, he suddenly morphed from a serious legal mind into one full of emotional outbursts with very little legal reasoning beyond vague assertions about a living constitution. And of course he moved very far left at the same time--Roe was just the beginning.

    It turns out most of Blackmun's later briefs (post-Roe) were fully written by his clerks with little to none of his own input beyond unseemly emotional interjections ("Poor Joshua!", I believe, was one of his additions to a case involving an injured child). (Plus he had a personality change---whereas he literally grew up best friends with Chief Justice Burger, he more and more started to disparage Burger as he grew intellectually less savvy)

    Justice Thurgood Marshall (the first black) was even less intelligent. He famously spent his afternoons watching soap operas while his clerks wrote everything. Absolute intellectual dunderhead.

    As a side note, it would be interesting to know how Blackmun and Marshall selected their clerks---and if anyone or any group "strongly recommended" folks who ended up being the clerks.

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg seems practically invalid these days, and I can imagine them pulling a “Weekend at Bernie’s” if that’s what it takes to hold out until a Democratic president is in office.

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  26. @Reg Cæsar
    Shrek came from Dream Works/Universal. If it had been Disney, they'd have sued Mrs Conyers to kingdom come for trademark infringement, race be damned.

    This is very true. They protect their branding ferociously!

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  27. Ivy says:
    @whorefinder

    I have a friend who works as a congressional aide and he told me once that Conyers’ family controls his office and his committee work and that Conyers himself is basically out of it and only signs documents and shows up when he’s called. So I actually can believe that the old man probably had no idea what the settlement was or even what the specific allegations wer
     
    Doesn't surprise me, the Left uses a lot of front men as useful idiots.

    For example, when Justice Harry Blackmun started going senile/had stroke-like behavior, he suddenly morphed from a serious legal mind into one full of emotional outbursts with very little legal reasoning beyond vague assertions about a living constitution. And of course he moved very far left at the same time--Roe was just the beginning.

    It turns out most of Blackmun's later briefs (post-Roe) were fully written by his clerks with little to none of his own input beyond unseemly emotional interjections ("Poor Joshua!", I believe, was one of his additions to a case involving an injured child). (Plus he had a personality change---whereas he literally grew up best friends with Chief Justice Burger, he more and more started to disparage Burger as he grew intellectually less savvy)

    Justice Thurgood Marshall (the first black) was even less intelligent. He famously spent his afternoons watching soap operas while his clerks wrote everything. Absolute intellectual dunderhead.

    As a side note, it would be interesting to know how Blackmun and Marshall selected their clerks---and if anyone or any group "strongly recommended" folks who ended up being the clerks.

    Blackmun being manipulated by clerks, who pass off their work and political agendas as his, goes well beyond how clerks and Supremes are supposed to work together. It is one thing for clerks to research, summarize and draft for a competent and engaged Justice to review, revise and approve. It is quite another to have said Justice essentially writing his or her X mark on an opinion that may very well not be understood or even read.

    For the conspiratorial-minded, spiked drinks, adulterated food and, ahem, ‘prescriptions’ could play roles in influencing activities that the average citizen would assume to be undertaken in a state as sober as a judge. Any opinions written when non compos mentis should be discarded, and the other Justices should have some objective mechanisms to get those afflicted ones off the Bench. How to do that could be problematic, but just nodding, winking and shuffling cases around as has been discussed just does not seem to live up to what the Constitution drafters had in mind. Do we as a country really need drooling and doddering incompetents when clear-headed legal scholars are required?

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