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Affluent Immigrants Culturally-Enriching Modern USA with Their Diverse Customs, Such as Slave-Owning

From The Atlantic:

My Family’s Slave

She lived with us for 56 years. She raised me and my siblings without pay. I was 11, a typical American kid, before I realized who she was.

ALEX TIZON JUNE 2017 ISSUE GLOBAL

Alex Tizon passed away in March. He was a Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist and the author of Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self. For more about Alex, please see this editor’s note.

The ashes filled a black plastic box about the size of a toaster. It weighed three and a half pounds. I put it in a canvas tote bag and packed it in my suitcase this past July for the transpacific flight to Manila. From there I would travel by car to a rural village. When I arrived, I would hand over all that was left of the woman who had spent 56 years as a slave in my family’s household.

Her name was Eudocia Tomas Pulido. We called her Lola. She was 4 foot 11, with mocha-brown skin and almond eyes that I can still see looking into mine—my first memory. She was 18 years old when my grandfather gave her to my mother as a gift, and when my family moved to the United States, we brought her with us. No other word but slave encompassed the life she lived. Her days began before everyone else woke and ended after we went to bed. She prepared three meals a day, cleaned the house, waited on my parents, and took care of my four siblings and me. My parents never paid her, and they scolded her constantly. She wasn’t kept in leg irons, but she might as well have been. So many nights, on my way to the bathroom, I’d spot her sleeping in a corner, slumped against a mound of laundry, her fingers clutching a garment she was in the middle of folding. …

[My mother] cooperated when my siblings and I set out to change Lola’s TNT status. Ronald Reagan’s landmark immigration bill of 1986 made millions of illegal immigrants eligible for amnesty. It was a long process, but Lola became a citizen in October 1998 …

In other words, the slaveowners spent a decade documenting their slave’s illegal presence in the U.S. to our federal government without their getting in trouble.

It’s the American Dream!

Or more like the Confederate Dream: getting the federal government to ratify your slave’s legal right to be in this country to serve you.

I’m fascinated by how the slaveowners went through a long legal process to legalize their poor slave’s presence in this country without much in the way of hassles from our federal government asking any nosy questions. Would the Schumer-Rubio “comprehensive immigration reform” bill have any provisions for finding out who is owning slaves and making them compensate their victims?

Chad Felix Greene asks:

How about the idea that an immigrant family brought a *slave* with them and no one noticed for 56 years? There should be a DOJ investigation

We need a National Immigration Safety Board, modeled on the National Transportation Safety Board, to investigate outrageous immigration abuses and report on needed reforms to prevent this kind of slavemastering from happening again.

Interestingly, Tizon had previously published his autobiography about how oppressed he had been growing up Asian in America. From his memoir’s Amazon page:

Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self

Hardcover – June 10, 2014
by Alex Tizon (Author)
4.7 out of 5 stars 59 customer reviews
#1 Best Seller in Asian American Studies

An award-winning writer takes a groundbreaking look at the experience and psyche of the Asian American male.

Alex Tizon landed in an America that saw Asian women as sexy and Asian men as sexless. Immigrating from the Philippines as a young boy, everything he saw and heard taught him to be ashamed of his face, his skin color, his height.

His fierce and funny observations of sex and the Asian American male include his own quest for love during college in the 1980s, a tortured tutorial on stereotypes that still make it hard for Asian men to get the girl. Tizon writes: “I had to educate myself on my own worth. It was a sloppy, piecemeal education, but I had to do it because no one else was going to do it for me.”

And then, a transformation. First, Tizon’s growing understanding that shame is universal: that his own just happened to be about race. Next, seismic cultural changes – from Jerry Yang’s phenomenal success with Yahoo! Inc., to actor Ken Watanabe’s emergence in Hollywood blockbusters, to Jeremy Lin’s meteoric NBA rise.

Finally, Tizon’s deeply original, taboo-bending investigation turns outward, tracking the unheard stories of young Asian men today, in a landscape still complex but much changed for the Asian American man.

But, I am told, he hadn’t bothered to mention his family’s slaveowning in his 2014 memoirs. I guess it was a little too complicating a factor for The Narrative: Meanwhile, as white girls were ruining my life by racistly refusing to date me, my family in Oregon was practicing a time-honored Asian custom: slave-owning.

 
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    It’s the New Normal in Serf City.

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    Just looked @ this guy's profile -- born in 59 -- old as my father. Damn I'm getting old.

    Anyway -- this just goes to show what I strongly suspect -- we're on our way to a fragmenting, balkanizing society......

    I imagine the slave or servant or whatever you wish to call her was also probably a mistress to the dude's dad.
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  2. Thought I could add something vaguely unique here – there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn’t want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn’t really know what to do with her – she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn’t want money, she didn’t have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn’t even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn’t like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages…

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn’t survive alone in Mao’s China. She wouldn’t have, I’m pretty certain.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Reading the original article, it does seem significantly different. Then again, I suppose its part of the entire distinction between serfdom and slavery. Serfdom, as it seemed, impossible to maintain once a family moves on from agrarian concerns.
    , @AndrewR
    Indeed, it sounds like your family's servant was much better treated than Lola.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    I had a professor whose rudeness I'd assumed was just the Hong Kong way. But a fellow student learned that the man's family had escaped there from Shanghai when he was about six.

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family's Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?

    , @Gijn
    Interesting story, and definitely different from the main article, since it seems like she couldn't really care for herself. Was she actually mentally disabled or something along those lines? What was known about her origins and original upbringing? How did she come into your family? When did she die?
    , @donut
    "Perhaps ignorance is bliss." Who can know the mind of another ? Perhaps the ignorance was on your part .
    , @Old fogey
    The girl/woman taken in by your family sounds like a saint - mainly interested in making life better for others. How lucky you were to have known her. She sounds more like a spinster aunt than a slave, and I would judge her life to have been very well-lived.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Daniel,

    A very moving story. I believe it. It reflects very credibly on both you and your forefathers.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Thanks for this personal anecdote. Absolutely fascinating.
    , @Bill

    trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. . . discovered Christianity and attended church religiously . . . Perhaps ignorance is bliss.
     
    Or perhaps self-sacrificing service is bliss.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    Very moving. I hope she was truly happy.
    , @1661er
    Nothing against you personally, but I think we can assume she didn't die in a nunnery in the US. Rather, her later years were taken care of by the Taiwanese social-welfare system/religious charities?

    My view on refugees had been based on that experience. That 4-5 millions Taiwanese had to deal with 2-3 millions 1949ers. As a result, pre-1949 Taiwanese became an oppressed majority in the land their ancestors conquered. The martial law, white terror, the evil so-called land reform, etc.

    Imagine how wonderful it would be if Taiwanese were in control of their borders, and can choose and reject all those refugees at will?
  3. OT: Obama extension for West Africans fleeing Ebola ends. I hope no one tells Ivanka about this, maybe they can slip it past her.

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/05/15/ebola-tps-status-termination

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  4. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    Reading the original article, it does seem significantly different. Then again, I suppose its part of the entire distinction between serfdom and slavery. Serfdom, as it seemed, impossible to maintain once a family moves on from agrarian concerns.

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    • Replies: @guest
    "Serfdom, as it seemed, impossible to maintain once a family moves on from agrarian concerns"

    That's so (or seems so) because serfdom is by definition about labor tied to property, usually landed property. You own the land, therefore you were the Lord of its tenants. If the tenants were tied to the land legally,then they were serfs. Under slavery and other forms of bondage, on the other hand, you directly own the person.

    Serfdom is correctly associated with feudalism, which as we all know was an agrarian system. I don't know an awful lot about feudalism, but I do know that the laborers tied to the land weren't thought of as chattel, or movable and disposable property. You didn't market your serfs, though you could market your land.

    So, if a family takes its serfs with it when it gives up farming, they're not serfs anymore. Or they never were.

  5. Jesus Christ. That story made me cry. Very good writing. The author seems like a wonderful person. As did Lola.

    This story could have many lessons to teach us but your sarcastic title to this story seems like you either didn’t read the whole piece or you’re dishonest. The most obvious lesson from this story is how people who grow up in the US can reject their barbaric ancestral customs. Obviously we know this doesn’t always happen, and probably this happens more with some ethnicities than others, but I think most sane people would see this as an immigrant success story. The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. I don’t know how anyone could read this piece as an argument against immigration. Perhaps if the parents had never had children, that story would be good anti-immigration fodder. But this story does seem to support the Magic Dirt theory.

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    • Agree: Broski
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    LOL. Safeguard that precious data point, champ.
    , @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    The author's mother wanted to reject the custom in the Philippines; the reason she brought Lola to the U.S. is that she anticipated both she and her husband would have to work. And the kids didn't exactly reject the custom either. Lola was cooking and cleaning for the author and his family until literally the day she died (though he tells us he treated her nicer and paid her).
    , @J.Ross
    When I briefly resided and read newspapers in the Arabian Gulf, I never saw any of the naked and medieval anti-Semitism which various non-profit organizations would like to bother you about, but every single damned day there was a human interest piece about a mistreated "servant:" a suicide, a foiled suicide, an escape, an escape stopped by police (who are always on the side of the owners), an abuse claim. By far the most common was attempted suicide. In our press, every now and then you will see South Asians in the news because they were rubbing ground chili peppers into a slave's eyes.
    , @Hunsdon
    "When you was slaves, you sang like birds!"
    , @Erik L
    It doesn't support magic dirt. The reason reason that the author grew up that way was the culture he was surrounded by, not some property of the land. If you bring in enough people from another culture to overwhelm the existing one, the dirt will not overcome the culture they bring.
    , @Robert the Wise
    STFU, AndrewR.

    "The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. "

    So? That's it? Where are the reparations? Are reparations only to be paid by white people?

    Magic dirt theory? More like MAgic Dirt Bullshit. Geography doesn't change genetics.
  6. I added the following statement to the article’s comment feed. Let’s see if it gets deleted.

    “Slave running. Slave mastering. Just another case of immigrants doing the jobs that Americans won’t do.”

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  7. Who will be the first to write a positive spin on this slavery?:

    – Matt Yglesias

    – Alex Nowrasteh

    – Noah Smith

    – Adam Ozimek

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    AndrewR.
    , @27 year old
    Not going to spin it positively, but I don't really care about it. It's none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other. This family should never have been allowed in to our country, but that's unrelated. If they don't have their slave hooked in to our social services, and they provide housing and food etc, who cares? You could say this kind of slavery is better than the standard American model where every rich person "owns" a 1/1000th share of a Task Rabbit or an Uber driver who earn negligible pay plus don't have a free place to live or free food and have to fend for themselves or get section 8/food stamps, etc etc. Ok maybe that was a positive spin.
    , @Olorin
    I hear Tennessee Coates is looking for an innovative lucrative storyline these days.
    , @anonymous
    Genius TN Coates (while simultaneously twisting himself into a pretzel).
  8. Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ...wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion
     
    I was going to call "Freudian typo", but that would have been coven.

    However, covey is "a small party or flock of birds", so there's a pun in there somewhere.


    With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of
     
    Myrna Blythe suggested that that hit book be renamed French Women Don't Dare Get Fat.
    , @reiner Tor
    I already referred to this in the previous thread, but on second thought it's not very hilarious.

    Though this article stops short of advocating for the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest of us, unless we do so, too. I didn't believe it would be so seamless, but it is bound to happen. I mean, are you an Islamophobe, a racist, or just a sexist pig for opposing conversion to Islam? How can you be so patriarchal not to convert to Islam, you white supremacist pig?
    , @theo the kraut
    Both Muslims and feminists/progressives are rent-seekers...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecJUqhm2g08
    , @Lot

    Gabby Aossey is a twenty-three year old writer. She was born in Iowa City, Iowa but raised on the beach in Carlsbad, California.
     
    Where I have seen that last name before?

    Feb 25, 2016 at 6:31 pm | Print View

    CEDAR RAPIDS — A federal judge went below guideline sentencing Thursday, giving Midamar Founder William Aossey, Jr., only two out of a possible nine years in federal prison for organizing a fraud to pass off halal meat to Malaysia that otherwise couldn’t have been shipped based on slaughtering methods.

    Last year, corporate officers for Midamar and ISA, Jalel and Yahya Aossey, William’s sons, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to make and use materially false statements and documents, sell misbranded meat, and commit wire fraud.

    As part of the plea agreement, Midamar must follow a USDA consent decree that included restructuring debt and management for Midamar and the company will be under USDA oversight for five years. Jalel Aossey was required to give up a management role in both companies and Yahya Aossey is now in charge of both.

    ISA will be required to provide financial information to probation if needed, can’t open lines of credit without probation approval, as well as other conditions.

    Midamar was fined $20,000 and ISA will pay $60,000. Testimony during the separate sentencings showed Midamar is strapped for cash and was dependent on ISA, which is profitable. Reade ordered lesser fines than what prosecutors recommended because the companies had to pay $600,000 jointly in forfeitures.

    Aossey was also ordered to pay a $60,000 fine, a forfeiture of over $184,000, and $16,824, which is the cost of prosecution.

    Jalel and Yahya Aossey will be sentenced on March 11 for their part in the export fraud
     

    Now it is of course possible that Gabby Aossey, Muslim from Iowa City (suburb of Cedar Rapids) is not part of the fake-halal-meat Aossey Muslim crime family recently busted in Cedar Rapids. So let's not speculate.
    , @theo the kraut
    Feminists import sexy Muslim macroaggressors while decrying local losers' microaggressions, imposing taxes as punishment. 50 shades of Islamic submission are worth 1001 flimsy rationalizations.
    , @Jason Roberts
    If Leftists want to keep encouraging non-white women to make themselves less desirable and mate-worthy to males, I'm all for it.
    , @Jefferson
    "Muslims Are the True Feminists"

    So can we put a burqa over the faces of all the feminists on ABC's The View for example? I think we can all agree that Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg should never show their hideous feminist faces in public again. I am all for putting them in a garbage bag.

    , @Neoconned
    Two things, one - whiskey was right about American women loving Islam because it does away w fat shaming, etc by imposing religious fundamentalist garb.

    Next - we need to stop the games and cut to the pt....

    Our women really do want to be dominated. Just encountered my third woman in so many weeks w a choke and spank fetish.

    Women dont knoe what they want....they want a dominant man to figure it out for them
  9. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    Indeed, it sounds like your family’s servant was much better treated than Lola.

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    Of course she was!

    Don't you remember that Chieh's Pet "was illiterate, basically worshipped his family, and had the mind of a child."?


    Nameless Lo-La was totally blessed to be life-time chatteled by Daniel's reratirevry enlightened grandparents.

    This sacharine laced Famiry Story makes you fully understand why so many rice paddy dwellers got eagerly absorbed by Mao's Little Red Picture Book.


    Ra Ra Ra-Ra Ra Raa Ra-Ra....
  10. From Alexander Soros’s Instagram account:

    alexsoros Happy birthday to #ping, the extraordinary woman who was pivotal in raising in me, and who has been there for me through thick and thing. No better #womencrushwednesday than her today! #wcw

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BSPZdMtAMfd/?taken-by=alexsoros&hl=en

    After wrestling with his moneyed upbringing, Mr. Soros, now 26, is taking the stage on his own terms, though in a direction his father clearly approves: philanthropy. Last fall, while pursuing his Ph.D. in history at Berkeley, the younger Mr. Soros started the Alexander Soros Foundation. Its stated mission is to promote social justice and human rights.
    [...]
    Alex Soros spent his youth padding around a Charles A. Platt-designed 14-room house on a sprawling country estate in Katonah, N.Y. His mother, Susan Weber Soros, now divorced from his father, founded the Bard Graduate Center for the decorative arts and adorned the house with Sargents and Cassatts. Their place in the city was a duplex at 1060 Fifth Avenue.

    While his parents worked, he spent much of his time with his younger brother, Gregory, now 23 and pursuing a career as an artist; his nanny, Ping, from China; and the staff. (He also has three older half-siblings from Mr. Soros’s first marriage, but they were college-age or older when he was a toddler. One of them, Jonathan Soros, recently made headlines when he started a super PAC, called Friends of Democracy, to challenge lawmakers who oppose campaign finance reform.)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/19/fashion/alexander-soros-tries-to-live-up-to-his-family-name.html

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  11. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    I had a professor whose rudeness I’d assumed was just the Hong Kong way. But a fellow student learned that the man’s family had escaped there from Shanghai when he was about six.

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family’s Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?

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    Every empire needs an infusion of violence to kill the decadence, I suppose.
    , @(((Owen)))

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family’s Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?
     
    What could go so wrong with a little boy that he'd prefer to be carried instead of running and jumping and shouting? Was he isolated and pampered into oestrogen poisoning?

    Probably some kind of problem with his family that reached back before early childhood.
    , @Hodag
    This girl I knew in college grandparent's we're on the wrong side of the Chinese Civil War. Her grandmother lived with her growing up and constantly bitched why they could not get more than a twice weekly housekeeper since she had full time servants, drivers, etc back in ole China. I guess living on the North Shore was not enough.
    , @Stationary Feast
    Don't Shanghainese have a reputation for brusqueness, or is that all mainlanders?
  12. @Dave Pinsen
    Who will be the first to write a positive spin on this slavery?:

    - Matt Yglesias

    - Alex Nowrasteh

    - Noah Smith

    - Adam Ozimek

    AndrewR.

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  13. @AndrewR
    Jesus Christ. That story made me cry. Very good writing. The author seems like a wonderful person. As did Lola.

    This story could have many lessons to teach us but your sarcastic title to this story seems like you either didn't read the whole piece or you're dishonest. The most obvious lesson from this story is how people who grow up in the US can reject their barbaric ancestral customs. Obviously we know this doesn't always happen, and probably this happens more with some ethnicities than others, but I think most sane people would see this as an immigrant success story. The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. I don't know how anyone could read this piece as an argument against immigration. Perhaps if the parents had never had children, that story would be good anti-immigration fodder. But this story does seem to support the Magic Dirt theory.

    LOL. Safeguard that precious data point, champ.

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    I'm glad you're enjoying yourself at my expense.
  14. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    …wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion

    I was going to call “Freudian typo”, but that would have been coven.

    However, covey is “a small party or flock of birds”, so there’s a pun in there somewhere.

    With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of

    Myrna Blythe suggested that that hit book be renamed French Women Don’t Dare Get Fat.

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  15. Why is the article so vague about the ethnicities of the people involved?

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    • Replies: @Stationary Feast
    It's fairly forthcoming, but it doesn't go out of its way to mention it. "Tagalog", "The Philippines", etc. You had to read through much more of Starship Troopers to figure out the race of Johnny Rico.
  16. Alex Tizon’s story is pretty sad and spectacular and unexpected. I don’t think this story serves a Sailer narrative or makes any arguments in the immigration debate, but the story itself is amazing in a sad and unfortunate way.

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    • Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
    Why can't it be both? I'd also like to know how a slave (or even a legal servant) could emigrate to the USA with this or any family, and whether the slave ownership was uncovered and dealt with at all in the woman's citizenship process years later. The objective of Tizon's article was to share his painful, shattering secret and give some humanity back to Lola, but it's more than appropriate for journalists to take his mantle and ask some hard questions regarding immigration policy.
    , @Daniel Williams

    Alex Tizon’s story is pretty sad and spectacular and unexpected. I don’t think this story serves a Sailer narrative or makes any arguments in the immigration debate...
     
    Foreigners sneaking slaves into this country doesn't merit the kind of scrutiny of our outlandish immigration policies that Sailer has consistently advocated for? How's that?
    , @Federalist
    No, the story doesn't have anything to do with immigration. Growing up, it was typical for me and my U.S. born friends to be cared for by slaves that were given by our grandfathers to our mothers. Who the hell would have raised us and taken care of us otherwise? Our own mothers? Don't be ridiculous. That's what slaves are for.
  17. @Reg Cæsar
    I had a professor whose rudeness I'd assumed was just the Hong Kong way. But a fellow student learned that the man's family had escaped there from Shanghai when he was about six.

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family's Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?

    Every empire needs an infusion of violence to kill the decadence, I suppose.

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    I know a fellow from another Asian country whose family ran from persecution and/or prosecution. He assimilated quite well to US norms, except for the marital. For that, he went full Mexican, with a second, simultaneous family on the side.

    And he's a self-employed techie, ie, "the best and the brightest". ¡Caramba!

  18. “… It was a long process, but Lola became a citizen in October 1998 … ”

    How do you say chutzpah in Tagalog ?

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    @AndrewR
    Jesus Christ. That story made me cry. Very good writing. The author seems like a wonderful person. As did Lola.

    This story could have many lessons to teach us but your sarcastic title to this story seems like you either didn't read the whole piece or you're dishonest. The most obvious lesson from this story is how people who grow up in the US can reject their barbaric ancestral customs. Obviously we know this doesn't always happen, and probably this happens more with some ethnicities than others, but I think most sane people would see this as an immigrant success story. The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. I don't know how anyone could read this piece as an argument against immigration. Perhaps if the parents had never had children, that story would be good anti-immigration fodder. But this story does seem to support the Magic Dirt theory.

    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)–Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines–whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author’s mother) is up for debate. One thing I’m pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I’m sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola’s story with Obama’s mother’s dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who’ve just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your “this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about ‘magic dirt.’” It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american–or in his view a member of the so-called “model minority.” No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

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    >>whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author’s mother) is up for debate

    It's not up to debate. Her life would have been immeasurably better as a free woman, back in the Phillipines. The woman's life was taken away from her by this family.
    , @Dave Pinsen

    One thing I’m pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there.
     
    What makes you so certain of that? The Atlantic article includes a photo of her reunited with her (presumably, older) sister in the Philippines when she was 83. The biggest factor in longevity is probably genetics. It's not as if she got much medical care in the U.S. (despite the author's mother being a physician, ffs). The author says when her teeth started falling out that she had never been to a dentist, and the only mention of her getting any medical care in the article is the day she died, when she was taken to a hospital after having a heart attack.
    , @Lot

    Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there.
     
    Except her sister lived to be at least 11 years older:

    Only one sibling remained in the area, Gregoria, 98 years old
     
    , @bluto
    I think the Straussian question is how much of his perceived inadequacy stemed from needing a literal slave to keep up with the Jones.
    , @Peripatetic commenter
    Both you and AndrewR are very shallow.

    You should stop reading Steve's articles if you cannot see what he is saying.
    , @AndrewR
    That's a really shitty paraphrase of what I said. And I am not "silly" for not having heard of this guy or googled him before commenting. Whatever racial insecurities he had, this was a good article.

    It would be great if people here could comment like grown-ups with nuanced thinking.
    , @AnotherDad

    Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines–whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author’s mother) is up for debate. One thing I’m pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there.
     
    Anonymous, i'm pegging you as unmarried and childless.

    First off we don't know what sort person Lola would have married back in the Philippines. She might have married some old guy she despised, or some old guy she came to very much love. Or maybe some younger guy she very much had the hots for ... but came to despise, or became her lifelong soulmate. People have been in happy and unhappy marriages forever.

    And being married to a pig farmer--nothing wrong with that. (I like ham and love bacon!) People have been scratching a living from the land since the neolithic revolution 10,000 years ago. It's what most people in the world did, until this past century. It's not some sort of hell, it's human life.

    The key point is Lola would have had a husband and children--i.e. a real human life, connected both to the past and to the future.

    I love all the modern conveniences and toys--indoor plumbing, microwave ovens, Costco, iSteve. But if you're giving me a choice of all that, but without having my own family, my kids and living like my grand parents did as kids--outhouse, water from the well, days spent ploughing at the business end of a horse--no contest. One of those is no life at all. And that's what Lola had. Her life with all its possibilities good and bad stolen to serve some creeps.
    , @Expletive Deleted

    Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines–whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author’s mother) is up for debate.
     

    Kunta Kinte was a dirt-poor boy in Africa-whether his life there as a peon or spear-carrier for some fat old psychotic warlord would have been much better than his life in the US as an unpaid gardener and porter to some violent drunken bastard of a man (an Anglo) is also debatable.
     
    , @For what it's worth
    "Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village."

    Or, life is multidimensional, and Tizon wanted to address Miss Pulido in a separate piece he was planning that was dedicated specifically to her. *Which he did.* I think that including her as a distracting side story in his memoir might have been even more demeaning to her memory than leaving her out altogether.

  20. @Reg Cæsar
    I had a professor whose rudeness I'd assumed was just the Hong Kong way. But a fellow student learned that the man's family had escaped there from Shanghai when he was about six.

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family's Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family’s Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?

    What could go so wrong with a little boy that he’d prefer to be carried instead of running and jumping and shouting? Was he isolated and pampered into oestrogen poisoning?

    Probably some kind of problem with his family that reached back before early childhood.

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    Could it be a holdover from when the noble or obscenely wealthy classes walked very little, and were carried everywhere by their servants? In China, the movie The Last Emperor showed that it was a strict formality to only carry some members of the Chinese aristocracy, their feet never to touch the lowly ground of many spaces, and commoners were not even allowed to look directly at them.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    He was the first son in a prominent family. To let him walk would disgrace the family.

    This was in a country where upper-class women's feet were deliberately crippled to serve as a status marker. Kind of like Ivy League brains today.
  21. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    I already referred to this in the previous thread, but on second thought it’s not very hilarious.

    Though this article stops short of advocating for the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest of us, unless we do so, too. I didn’t believe it would be so seamless, but it is bound to happen. I mean, are you an Islamophobe, a racist, or just a sexist pig for opposing conversion to Islam? How can you be so patriarchal not to convert to Islam, you white supremacist pig?

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    the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest
     
    Probably the best chance in an Israel-style war of the cradle. Replace the western cult of infertility with a mideast death cult everyone can try to dominate an Islamic west that's no longer worth saving.
    , @biz
    I've noted before that I agree this will happen. So what do you think is the timescale?

    The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years - significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period. With those conversions, for the women, will come dressing modestly, giving up drinking, and settling down as wives with Muslim men.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    …you white supremacist pig?
     
    And "pig" carries double the insult with them.
    , @Pericles
    I have my hopes that the SJWs then will become mullahs and start praying seven times a day to show their virtue. The rest will duly follow, or perhaps there will be scimitars and beheadings. Either way I'm fine with it.
    , @Bill
    Yes, and it will start with the elites. When? Who knows? It's already amazing how long Europe has drifted along without a real faith.
  22. @Massimo Heitor
    Alex Tizon's story is pretty sad and spectacular and unexpected. I don't think this story serves a Sailer narrative or makes any arguments in the immigration debate, but the story itself is amazing in a sad and unfortunate way.

    Why can’t it be both? I’d also like to know how a slave (or even a legal servant) could emigrate to the USA with this or any family, and whether the slave ownership was uncovered and dealt with at all in the woman’s citizenship process years later. The objective of Tizon’s article was to share his painful, shattering secret and give some humanity back to Lola, but it’s more than appropriate for journalists to take his mantle and ask some hard questions regarding immigration policy.

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    • Replies: @JW Bell
    His father worked for the Philippine Consulate which allowed one domestic.
  23. @reiner Tor
    I already referred to this in the previous thread, but on second thought it's not very hilarious.

    Though this article stops short of advocating for the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest of us, unless we do so, too. I didn't believe it would be so seamless, but it is bound to happen. I mean, are you an Islamophobe, a racist, or just a sexist pig for opposing conversion to Islam? How can you be so patriarchal not to convert to Islam, you white supremacist pig?

    the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest

    Probably the best chance in an Israel-style war of the cradle. Replace the western cult of infertility with a mideast death cult everyone can try to dominate an Islamic west that’s no longer worth saving.

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    • Replies: @Lurker
    It would be far better to close the borders, deport the invaders and crush the traitors.
  24. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    >>whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author’s mother) is up for debate

    It’s not up to debate. Her life would have been immeasurably better as a free woman, back in the Phillipines. The woman’s life was taken away from her by this family.

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  25. @Massimo Heitor
    Alex Tizon's story is pretty sad and spectacular and unexpected. I don't think this story serves a Sailer narrative or makes any arguments in the immigration debate, but the story itself is amazing in a sad and unfortunate way.

    Alex Tizon’s story is pretty sad and spectacular and unexpected. I don’t think this story serves a Sailer narrative or makes any arguments in the immigration debate…

    Foreigners sneaking slaves into this country doesn’t merit the kind of scrutiny of our outlandish immigration policies that Sailer has consistently advocated for? How’s that?

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  26. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    One thing I’m pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there.

    What makes you so certain of that? The Atlantic article includes a photo of her reunited with her (presumably, older) sister in the Philippines when she was 83. The biggest factor in longevity is probably genetics. It’s not as if she got much medical care in the U.S. (despite the author’s mother being a physician, ffs). The author says when her teeth started falling out that she had never been to a dentist, and the only mention of her getting any medical care in the article is the day she died, when she was taken to a hospital after having a heart attack.

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    Well, I know life expectancy for a woman born in 1922 (the approximate date of Lola's birth) in the US was 61 years and the life expectancy of a woman born in 1960 (the earliest date for which I could find data) in the Philippines was 59 years. I suspect that back in 1922 in the Philippines it was somewhat lower.

    I'm thrilled that Lola had a sister who lived to be nearly 100--just as easily Lola could have died of dysentery in 1973 along with her mother.
  27. @Daniel Chieh
    Reading the original article, it does seem significantly different. Then again, I suppose its part of the entire distinction between serfdom and slavery. Serfdom, as it seemed, impossible to maintain once a family moves on from agrarian concerns.

    “Serfdom, as it seemed, impossible to maintain once a family moves on from agrarian concerns”

    That’s so (or seems so) because serfdom is by definition about labor tied to property, usually landed property. You own the land, therefore you were the Lord of its tenants. If the tenants were tied to the land legally,then they were serfs. Under slavery and other forms of bondage, on the other hand, you directly own the person.

    Serfdom is correctly associated with feudalism, which as we all know was an agrarian system. I don’t know an awful lot about feudalism, but I do know that the laborers tied to the land weren’t thought of as chattel, or movable and disposable property. You didn’t market your serfs, though you could market your land.

    So, if a family takes its serfs with it when it gives up farming, they’re not serfs anymore. Or they never were.

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    The advantage of being a serf over being a slave is your owner can't move you to the other side of the world like the Tizon family did to their slave.
  28. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there.

    Except her sister lived to be at least 11 years older:

    Only one sibling remained in the area, Gregoria, 98 years old

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  29. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    I think the Straussian question is how much of his perceived inadequacy stemed from needing a literal slave to keep up with the Jones.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    Indeed.

    And then keeping up the childhood fiction that having a captive unpaid live-in 24/7 laborer was the life of "a typical American kid" by refusing to name it for what it was.

    Not after the big awakening realization at age 11 (still a kid) but after, say, age 20, or 30, or 40. You know, in public. As a writer. Which is what he was and what writers do supposedly. Examine life and character and all. Dig into the hard stuff we're told.

    And then, a transformation. First, Tizon’s growing understanding that shame is universal: that his own just happened to be about race.
     

    Isn't Grievance, Incorporated, convenient?

    It lets everyone but whites off the hook for their own actual crimes against other nonwhites, in this case actual, recognized, unchallenged, lied-about slave-holding...while letting them project their sense of shame onto whites, transmogrified into white racism/supremacy/imperialism/whatever.

    Whites. The universal sham(e)-wow.

  30. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    Both Muslims and feminists/progressives are rent-seekers…

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  31. A New York Times article says that Right Wingers should embrace mass immigration and open borders from the 3rd World as it will only make America Whiter because all immigrants and their off springs will become White. So it only makes sense that there are immigrants who are participating in the slave trafficking of other Human Beings because they are trying to assimilate into Whiteness and according to the Left Wing megaphone the White race is the only race on the planet who participate in the slave trafficking of Human Beings.

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  32. You gotta admit that immigrants edging American-born blacks out of the slavery business is pretty funny. Is there nothing these Asians don’t excel at?!?

    Also, I’ve been waiting to post this for weeks and this topic is probably the most relevant that’s gonna come up. Enjoy Rap-A-Lot artists The Convicts performing their 1991 hit, “Illegal Aliens”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Yu43FsdKo

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  33. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    Both you and AndrewR are very shallow.

    You should stop reading Steve’s articles if you cannot see what he is saying.

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    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Thank you for your insightful and constructive criticism.
  34. @AndrewR
    Jesus Christ. That story made me cry. Very good writing. The author seems like a wonderful person. As did Lola.

    This story could have many lessons to teach us but your sarcastic title to this story seems like you either didn't read the whole piece or you're dishonest. The most obvious lesson from this story is how people who grow up in the US can reject their barbaric ancestral customs. Obviously we know this doesn't always happen, and probably this happens more with some ethnicities than others, but I think most sane people would see this as an immigrant success story. The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. I don't know how anyone could read this piece as an argument against immigration. Perhaps if the parents had never had children, that story would be good anti-immigration fodder. But this story does seem to support the Magic Dirt theory.

    The author’s mother wanted to reject the custom in the Philippines; the reason she brought Lola to the U.S. is that she anticipated both she and her husband would have to work. And the kids didn’t exactly reject the custom either. Lola was cooking and cleaning for the author and his family until literally the day she died (though he tells us he treated her nicer and paid her).

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  35. @guest
    "Serfdom, as it seemed, impossible to maintain once a family moves on from agrarian concerns"

    That's so (or seems so) because serfdom is by definition about labor tied to property, usually landed property. You own the land, therefore you were the Lord of its tenants. If the tenants were tied to the land legally,then they were serfs. Under slavery and other forms of bondage, on the other hand, you directly own the person.

    Serfdom is correctly associated with feudalism, which as we all know was an agrarian system. I don't know an awful lot about feudalism, but I do know that the laborers tied to the land weren't thought of as chattel, or movable and disposable property. You didn't market your serfs, though you could market your land.

    So, if a family takes its serfs with it when it gives up farming, they're not serfs anymore. Or they never were.

    The advantage of being a serf over being a slave is your owner can’t move you to the other side of the world like the Tizon family did to their slave.

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    • Replies: @donut
    Are you serious Sailer , you nitwit ? WTF do you think open borders are about ? The difference and advantage for our masters is that internally American citizens since the 70's have paid their own way to be relocated and now where once slavers had to go to Africa and risk their lives and treasure to bring slaves here , the Negros for the most part compete for the opportunity and pay their own way . The Latinos risk life and limb to enslave themselves here far from their homes . I haven't lived in 14 states because I like to travel . I like so many others was driven from place to place by Arithmetic . You , you fortunate bastard can live where you chose by pumping out great volumes of gas to keep you afloat in Sunny Southern California . "The advantage of being a serf over being a slave" what would you know about either you conceited tosser ?
  36. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    Gabby Aossey is a twenty-three year old writer. She was born in Iowa City, Iowa but raised on the beach in Carlsbad, California.

    Where I have seen that last name before?

    Feb 25, 2016 at 6:31 pm | Print View

    CEDAR RAPIDS — A federal judge went below guideline sentencing Thursday, giving Midamar Founder William Aossey, Jr., only two out of a possible nine years in federal prison for organizing a fraud to pass off halal meat to Malaysia that otherwise couldn’t have been shipped based on slaughtering methods.

    Last year, corporate officers for Midamar and ISA, Jalel and Yahya Aossey, William’s sons, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to make and use materially false statements and documents, sell misbranded meat, and commit wire fraud.

    As part of the plea agreement, Midamar must follow a USDA consent decree that included restructuring debt and management for Midamar and the company will be under USDA oversight for five years. Jalel Aossey was required to give up a management role in both companies and Yahya Aossey is now in charge of both.

    ISA will be required to provide financial information to probation if needed, can’t open lines of credit without probation approval, as well as other conditions.

    Midamar was fined $20,000 and ISA will pay $60,000. Testimony during the separate sentencings showed Midamar is strapped for cash and was dependent on ISA, which is profitable. Reade ordered lesser fines than what prosecutors recommended because the companies had to pay $600,000 jointly in forfeitures.

    Aossey was also ordered to pay a $60,000 fine, a forfeiture of over $184,000, and $16,824, which is the cost of prosecution.

    Jalel and Yahya Aossey will be sentenced on March 11 for their part in the export fraud

    Now it is of course possible that Gabby Aossey, Muslim from Iowa City (suburb of Cedar Rapids) is not part of the fake-halal-meat Aossey Muslim crime family recently busted in Cedar Rapids. So let’s not speculate.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    If she was born in Iowa City, chances are her father, and perhaps mother, was an academic.
    , @Yngvar
    This sounds like a violation of the Establishment Clause. There is no difference between 'ordinary' meat or 'halal' meat. Claiming fraud must mean the USDA accepts that there is. This is at worst a civil case.
  37. @(((Owen)))

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family’s Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?
     
    What could go so wrong with a little boy that he'd prefer to be carried instead of running and jumping and shouting? Was he isolated and pampered into oestrogen poisoning?

    Probably some kind of problem with his family that reached back before early childhood.

    Could it be a holdover from when the noble or obscenely wealthy classes walked very little, and were carried everywhere by their servants? In China, the movie The Last Emperor showed that it was a strict formality to only carry some members of the Chinese aristocracy, their feet never to touch the lowly ground of many spaces, and commoners were not even allowed to look directly at them.

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  38. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    Interesting story, and definitely different from the main article, since it seems like she couldn’t really care for herself. Was she actually mentally disabled or something along those lines? What was known about her origins and original upbringing? How did she come into your family? When did she die?

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    She seemed mentally disabled, but I'm not absolutely certain. Ignorant and insecure, certainly. Possibly a bit simple. She died of old age in the convent. Illiteracy was not uncommon for a peasant woman at the time.

    She was one of the many peasants that worked the land, as they had for hundreds of years. I don't know anything about their upbringing, and I don't think castes were as formal in China as they were in say, India. Still farmers tended to become farmers. I know that we were seen as superior human beings with secret knowledge and occult powers; literacy certain grants many abilities and whatnot, at the least.

    Was an interesting time. We have our ancestral graves in one of the wealthiest parts of Shanghai. I've always found it morbidly amusing, because supposedly, we have treasures buried in the graves, and in times of desperation, family lore tells of how to recover that treasure.

    Well, the commies have built an gigantic airport over the location of our graves.

    Guess I won't be doing any treasure hunting.
  39. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    Feminists import sexy Muslim macroaggressors while decrying local losers’ microaggressions, imposing taxes as punishment. 50 shades of Islamic submission are worth 1001 flimsy rationalizations.

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    • Replies: @Neoconned
    People think I'm joking or fucking around when I say that Whiskey is frighteningly correct.....

    "Women like Islam because they don't have to worry about bodyshaming."

    I'm a working class white male thug. Although in my mid 30s -- I dunno how much longer I'll have the physical cajones to keep it up. What? 15 years maybe?

    this country is done. We should come up with a plan to split it up into multiple ethnic states -- and then do a Soviet or Czechoslovak type peaceful dissolution -- before the whole thing goes up in smoke and flames.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    "Feminists import sexy Muslim macroaggressors while decrying local losers’ microaggressions"

    BBC do docudrama of (one) Muslim grooming scandal, (male) reviewer Sean O'Grady

    "As we know, the great majority of these underage girls were, as the officially classification goes, “White British”; the majority of their abusers, as is equally clear, were “Asian” – men in their thirties, forties and fifties. Or, as the protests from Hindu and Sikh groups pointed out, one could add predominantly Muslim individuals of Pakistani heritage. This is not obscured in the drama. Yet these men were far from the only sexual abusers in Britain, and these criminal perversions are never confined to any ethnic or (nominally) religious group. Islam, after all, does not condone alcohol, drugs or rape... Sex abuse cases are spread across ethnic and religious groups, and always have been. Abusers, though we don't always like to face it, are often within families and are people known to the victims – hence the use of “grooming” techniques. In the case of the “VIP” rings, or in the churches, children's homes or in showbiz, ..."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/tv-review-three-girls-bbc1-a7737161.html

    The BBC have done better than independent TV though, where the popular soap Coronation Street has bravely addressed the issue by showing a white male grooming his young girlfriend to share her round his friends.
  40. @AndrewR
    Jesus Christ. That story made me cry. Very good writing. The author seems like a wonderful person. As did Lola.

    This story could have many lessons to teach us but your sarcastic title to this story seems like you either didn't read the whole piece or you're dishonest. The most obvious lesson from this story is how people who grow up in the US can reject their barbaric ancestral customs. Obviously we know this doesn't always happen, and probably this happens more with some ethnicities than others, but I think most sane people would see this as an immigrant success story. The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. I don't know how anyone could read this piece as an argument against immigration. Perhaps if the parents had never had children, that story would be good anti-immigration fodder. But this story does seem to support the Magic Dirt theory.

    When I briefly resided and read newspapers in the Arabian Gulf, I never saw any of the naked and medieval anti-Semitism which various non-profit organizations would like to bother you about, but every single damned day there was a human interest piece about a mistreated “servant:” a suicide, a foiled suicide, an escape, an escape stopped by police (who are always on the side of the owners), an abuse claim. By far the most common was attempted suicide. In our press, every now and then you will see South Asians in the news because they were rubbing ground chili peppers into a slave’s eyes.

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    • Replies: @FredS
    The Berber use heated copper coins.
    Paul Bowles wrote a fictional piece about it and Tom Russell put it to song:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zGQ9z7rbn7zufjEjhB-WM4o3I2AwKWgWxBrB0AwqY0w/edit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ha_4kpT3IU
  41. @Anon
    It's the New Normal in Serf City.

    Just looked @ this guy’s profile — born in 59 — old as my father. Damn I’m getting old.

    Anyway — this just goes to show what I strongly suspect — we’re on our way to a fragmenting, balkanizing society……

    I imagine the slave or servant or whatever you wish to call her was also probably a mistress to the dude’s dad.

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    • Replies: @BrerFox
    Go read the article. Lola died a virgin and never had a romantic interest past the age of 15. She was denied almost every facet of human life by her 'Masters'.
  42. @theo the kraut
    Feminists import sexy Muslim macroaggressors while decrying local losers' microaggressions, imposing taxes as punishment. 50 shades of Islamic submission are worth 1001 flimsy rationalizations.

    People think I’m joking or fucking around when I say that Whiskey is frighteningly correct…..

    “Women like Islam because they don’t have to worry about bodyshaming.”

    I’m a working class white male thug. Although in my mid 30s — I dunno how much longer I’ll have the physical cajones to keep it up. What? 15 years maybe?

    this country is done. We should come up with a plan to split it up into multiple ethnic states — and then do a Soviet or Czechoslovak type peaceful dissolution — before the whole thing goes up in smoke and flames.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Agreed--that's why I support CalExit. Even a losing vote in which, say 45% of Californians voted to leave the Union might be a wake-up call that there is something seriously wrong with the USA.

    When I first read Whiskey, I thought he was at least exagerating. But the more I test his hypothesis against the evidence of my own eyes and ears, the more correct I find him.
  43. @reiner Tor
    I already referred to this in the previous thread, but on second thought it's not very hilarious.

    Though this article stops short of advocating for the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest of us, unless we do so, too. I didn't believe it would be so seamless, but it is bound to happen. I mean, are you an Islamophobe, a racist, or just a sexist pig for opposing conversion to Islam? How can you be so patriarchal not to convert to Islam, you white supremacist pig?

    I’ve noted before that I agree this will happen. So what do you think is the timescale?

    The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years – significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period. With those conversions, for the women, will come dressing modestly, giving up drinking, and settling down as wives with Muslim men.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    It'd be hilarious if it happened so quickly, but I think it will take longer. Perhaps the first few conversions will happen within the next decade, but not more.
    , @Corvinus
    "The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years – significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period."

    I thought feminists and leftists are generally atheists. Yet, you are convinced they will have a conversion experience and become a Muslim. Wow, just wow.
    , @RadicalCenter
    These women couldn't just stop dressing like hookers and binge-drinking like self-destructive morons, without converting to islam? Nah, too much to hope for, I imagine.

    Your prediction is all too plausible, though one might quibble with the short timeframe. (Tho ya never know)
  44. @(((Owen)))

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family’s Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?
     
    What could go so wrong with a little boy that he'd prefer to be carried instead of running and jumping and shouting? Was he isolated and pampered into oestrogen poisoning?

    Probably some kind of problem with his family that reached back before early childhood.

    He was the first son in a prominent family. To let him walk would disgrace the family.

    This was in a country where upper-class women’s feet were deliberately crippled to serve as a status marker. Kind of like Ivy League brains today.

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  45. @Peripatetic commenter
    Both you and AndrewR are very shallow.

    You should stop reading Steve's articles if you cannot see what he is saying.

    Thank you for your insightful and constructive criticism.

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  46. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    “Perhaps ignorance is bliss.” Who can know the mind of another ? Perhaps the ignorance was on your part .

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  47. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    That’s a really shitty paraphrase of what I said. And I am not “silly” for not having heard of this guy or googled him before commenting. Whatever racial insecurities he had, this was a good article.

    It would be great if people here could comment like grown-ups with nuanced thinking.

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  48. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    If Leftists want to keep encouraging non-white women to make themselves less desirable and mate-worthy to males, I’m all for it.

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  49. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    “Muslims Are the True Feminists”

    So can we put a burqa over the faces of all the feminists on ABC’s The View for example? I think we can all agree that Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg should never show their hideous feminist faces in public again. I am all for putting them in a garbage bag.

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    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    "Whoopi" and "Joy", one would guess,
    Should delight and excite and impress.
    They do not; I push [MUTE].
    But I still see uncute;
    So a burkha's appropriate dress.
  50. @Discard
    AndrewR.

    Are you illiterate or just dishonest?

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    • Replies: @Discard
    Neither. Dave Pinsen (#8) asked who would be first to put a positive spin on this story. Did you not put a positive spin on the story?

    Now who is illiterate or dishonest?
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    @Dave Pinsen

    One thing I’m pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there.
     
    What makes you so certain of that? The Atlantic article includes a photo of her reunited with her (presumably, older) sister in the Philippines when she was 83. The biggest factor in longevity is probably genetics. It's not as if she got much medical care in the U.S. (despite the author's mother being a physician, ffs). The author says when her teeth started falling out that she had never been to a dentist, and the only mention of her getting any medical care in the article is the day she died, when she was taken to a hospital after having a heart attack.

    Well, I know life expectancy for a woman born in 1922 (the approximate date of Lola’s birth) in the US was 61 years and the life expectancy of a woman born in 1960 (the earliest date for which I could find data) in the Philippines was 59 years. I suspect that back in 1922 in the Philippines it was somewhat lower.

    I’m thrilled that Lola had a sister who lived to be nearly 100–just as easily Lola could have died of dysentery in 1973 along with her mother.

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    “[My mother] cooperated when my siblings and I set out to change Lola’s TNT status. Ronald Reagan’s landmark immigration bill of 1986 made millions of illegal immigrants eligible for amnesty. It was a long process, but Lola became a citizen in October 1998 … ”

    How touching! They assuaged their guilt and proved their true love and affection for their slave by getting her a passport just in time to dump her on the US taxpayer. We Americans will gladly support all your used-up, burned-out, destitute ex-slaves once you are finished with them!

    I was unaware that “Reagan’s landmark immigration bill” included amnesty for slavemasters as well as illegal aliens, but I might have guessed.

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  53. @The Anti-Gnostic
    LOL. Safeguard that precious data point, champ.

    I’m glad you’re enjoying yourself at my expense.

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  54. @Dave Pinsen
    Who will be the first to write a positive spin on this slavery?:

    - Matt Yglesias

    - Alex Nowrasteh

    - Noah Smith

    - Adam Ozimek

    Not going to spin it positively, but I don’t really care about it. It’s none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other. This family should never have been allowed in to our country, but that’s unrelated. If they don’t have their slave hooked in to our social services, and they provide housing and food etc, who cares? You could say this kind of slavery is better than the standard American model where every rich person “owns” a 1/1000th share of a Task Rabbit or an Uber driver who earn negligible pay plus don’t have a free place to live or free food and have to fend for themselves or get section 8/food stamps, etc etc. Ok maybe that was a positive spin.

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    • Replies: @oddsbodkins
    > It’s none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other.

    It might be, if you trade with them.

    Thought experiment: Child pornography is illegal primarily because its production involves doing horrible damage to children. Should child pornography be legal if accompanied by a certificate proving it was not made in the US, and that no US citizen children were involved in its production?

    I am glad the west used its influence to get Saudi Arabia & friends to ban slavery in the 60's. At least on paper. For every Filipino or Indian slave here there are a thousand there.
    , @bomag

    It’s none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other.
     
    You might not be interested in them, but they are interested in you, since, apparently, they are moving here to colonize us and codify their cousin marriage; clitoridectomies; etc.
  55. @Daniel Chieh
    Every empire needs an infusion of violence to kill the decadence, I suppose.

    I know a fellow from another Asian country whose family ran from persecution and/or prosecution. He assimilated quite well to US norms, except for the marital. For that, he went full Mexican, with a second, simultaneous family on the side.

    And he’s a self-employed techie, ie, “the best and the brightest”. ¡Caramba!

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  56. @Massimo Heitor
    Alex Tizon's story is pretty sad and spectacular and unexpected. I don't think this story serves a Sailer narrative or makes any arguments in the immigration debate, but the story itself is amazing in a sad and unfortunate way.

    No, the story doesn’t have anything to do with immigration. Growing up, it was typical for me and my U.S. born friends to be cared for by slaves that were given by our grandfathers to our mothers. Who the hell would have raised us and taken care of us otherwise? Our own mothers? Don’t be ridiculous. That’s what slaves are for.

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    • Replies: @FredS
    My long dead great great grandfather helped free the slaves in the US back 1861-65. The left has been erasing that part of history in parellel with the ongoing CSA monument removal program. (Unless the NAACP or SPLC needs a cash infusion from donors) If you erase the collective memory the only thing left is what the educational left teaches the next generation.
  57. and heard taught him to be ashamed of his face, his skin color, his height.

    I suspect that the last condition looms large (so to speak)

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    But then he says the rise of Jeremy Lin changed all that and now things are much better,bedroom wise, for those plucky slave holding Asians!
  58. @Lot

    Gabby Aossey is a twenty-three year old writer. She was born in Iowa City, Iowa but raised on the beach in Carlsbad, California.
     
    Where I have seen that last name before?

    Feb 25, 2016 at 6:31 pm | Print View

    CEDAR RAPIDS — A federal judge went below guideline sentencing Thursday, giving Midamar Founder William Aossey, Jr., only two out of a possible nine years in federal prison for organizing a fraud to pass off halal meat to Malaysia that otherwise couldn’t have been shipped based on slaughtering methods.

    Last year, corporate officers for Midamar and ISA, Jalel and Yahya Aossey, William’s sons, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to make and use materially false statements and documents, sell misbranded meat, and commit wire fraud.

    As part of the plea agreement, Midamar must follow a USDA consent decree that included restructuring debt and management for Midamar and the company will be under USDA oversight for five years. Jalel Aossey was required to give up a management role in both companies and Yahya Aossey is now in charge of both.

    ISA will be required to provide financial information to probation if needed, can’t open lines of credit without probation approval, as well as other conditions.

    Midamar was fined $20,000 and ISA will pay $60,000. Testimony during the separate sentencings showed Midamar is strapped for cash and was dependent on ISA, which is profitable. Reade ordered lesser fines than what prosecutors recommended because the companies had to pay $600,000 jointly in forfeitures.

    Aossey was also ordered to pay a $60,000 fine, a forfeiture of over $184,000, and $16,824, which is the cost of prosecution.

    Jalel and Yahya Aossey will be sentenced on March 11 for their part in the export fraud
     

    Now it is of course possible that Gabby Aossey, Muslim from Iowa City (suburb of Cedar Rapids) is not part of the fake-halal-meat Aossey Muslim crime family recently busted in Cedar Rapids. So let's not speculate.

    If she was born in Iowa City, chances are her father, and perhaps mother, was an academic.

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    • Replies: @Some Economist
    Possibly, but the university hospital there tends also to see a high-than-usual share of risky deliveries as well as beneficiaries of public services from vast parts of the state. Also, it'd be unusual for academics or people who just received graduate training there to move to Carlsbad, CA, I would think.
  59. @reiner Tor
    I already referred to this in the previous thread, but on second thought it's not very hilarious.

    Though this article stops short of advocating for the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest of us, unless we do so, too. I didn't believe it would be so seamless, but it is bound to happen. I mean, are you an Islamophobe, a racist, or just a sexist pig for opposing conversion to Islam? How can you be so patriarchal not to convert to Islam, you white supremacist pig?

    …you white supremacist pig?

    And “pig” carries double the insult with them.

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  60. @Reg Cæsar
    I had a professor whose rudeness I'd assumed was just the Hong Kong way. But a fellow student learned that the man's family had escaped there from Shanghai when he was about six.

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family's Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?

    This girl I knew in college grandparent’s we’re on the wrong side of the Chinese Civil War. Her grandmother lived with her growing up and constantly bitched why they could not get more than a twice weekly housekeeper since she had full time servants, drivers, etc back in ole China. I guess living on the North Shore was not enough.

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  61. Jeez I’m a bit taken aback at how callous everyone seems to be in this thread.

    He was a kid when it all started, he did the best he could.

    He didn’t have to tell anyone in his memoirs or anything, he could have passed away as an award winning journalist and that’s that.

    In his dying act he made sure the world knew about something that would put a black mark on his family and filipino people in general.

    He had to live with the consequences of his parents’ actions his whole life in private, when he had the power to actually do something, he made things right and took care of his de-facto mother.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Thought experiment: all else the same, but Lola was black and he and his family were white.

    Same reaction by you and others?
    , @Hodag
    He died of a heart attack, iirc. I have not timed things out completely but I think he held this back the story until he was past the 10 year statute of limitation for peonage under the US Code.

    My parents were from a backward part of the world. The stories they told of back in the day would curl your hair. They never wanted to go back.
  62. Off-topic,

    Jordan Peele’s next opus:

    ‘Get Out’s Jordan Peele Teams With WBTV, HBO & Bad Robot For ‘Lovecraft Country’ Drama Series; Misha Green Writing

    EXCLUSIVE: Get Out writer-director Jordan Peele’s Monkeypaw Productions is teaming with J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot and Warner Bros Television on Lovecraft Country, a one-hour drama that has been given a straight-to-series order by HBO. The pilot will be written by Underground executive producer/showrunner/writer Misha Green. Peele will be exec producer along with Green, Abrams and Ben Stephenson. Green will be showrunner.

    There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective.

    http://deadline.com/2017/05/jordan-peele-lovecraft-country-hbo-series-misha-green-1202095066/

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    • Replies: @syonredux
    Matt Ruff, the author of Lovecraft Country:

    Ruff was born in New York City in 1965. His family are Lutheran, and he has German ancestry.[2] His father was a hospital chaplain, and his mother was a missionary's daughter.[3] At the age of 5, he decided he wanted to be a fiction writer. He spent his childhood and adolescence learning how to tell stories.[1] As a child, many adults around him did not take his desire to become a writer seriously, and attempted to persuade him to choose a different career. However, Ruff's mother was very supportive of him and his hope to become a writer, for one of Ruff's birthdays, she bought him an IBM Selectric typewriter.
     

    Ruff grew up in New York City. From third to eighth grade, Ruff attended a parochial school.[2] He attended Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan; one of his teachers there was the memoirist Frank McCourt.[5] He graduated from Cornell University in 1987. Alison Lurie was one of Ruff's English professors, and she helped Ruff find an agent.
     

    Ruff currently lives with his wife, Lisa Gold, in Seattle, Washington.

     

    A previous novel:

    The idea for The Mirage came when Matt Ruff was asked by a TV producer, who was a fan of his novel Bad Monkeys, whether he had an idea for a TV series. In an interview, Matt Ruff said "I’d been wanting to write something about the September 11 attacks and the War on Terror that would offer an unusual perspective while still being an engaging story, and I hit on this idea of setting a thriller in a world where the U.S. and the Middle East had traded places. That concept was a little too radical for television, so I decided to do it as a novel."[1]
     

    The Mirage is set in an alternate history version of the year 2009. Much of the back-story is revealed in excerpts from the Library of Alexandria, this world's version of Wikipedia funded by Muammar Gaddafi. A politically united Arabia (analogous to the real Arab League), declared independence from the Ottoman Empire at the end of the 19th century and established itself as the United Arab States. Throughout the 20th century, Arabia grew to occupy most of the Middle East and North Africa, and northern East Africa. Arabia intervened decisively in World War II on the Allied side, culminating in Adolf Hitler's beheading at Nuremberg in 1946. The world's only Jewish state was afterwards established in northeast Germany, with its capital in Berlin.
    North America, meanwhile, is divided among several feuding third-world nations. The largest, the Christian States of America (CSA), comprises 17 states along the East Coast, and is under the dictatorial rule of an aging Lyndon B. Johnson. In 1990, the Kingdom of Mississippi is annexed, becoming the 18th state. The Evangelical Republic of Texas includes Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and the Mexican state of Coahuila, and is allied with the United Arab States. A Rocky Mountain nation exists, but is split up among small tribal factions. The Pentecostal Gilead Heartland includes Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, and Tennessee. A Mormon nation also exists, although it is based in Missouri rather than Utah. In 1990, an attempt by the CSA to annex the Kingdom of Louisiana, fueled by Lyndon Johnson's desire to claim Texas, resulted in the Mexican Gulf War.
    Other changes include: a third atomic bomb being dropped during World War II, on Tokyo; attacks by radical Christian terrorists on November 9, 2001 and; Arab President Bandar, in his state of the union address, describing America, the United Kingdom, and North Korea as "an Axis of Evil whose attempts to develop weapons of Mass destruction would no longer be tolerated." Dialogue throughout the novel mentions a terrorist group known as the World Christian Alliance (this timeline's equivalent of Al Qaeda) using the Rocky Mountains as its headquarters. It is not known who their leaders are or if they are aware of the mirage legend. The United Kingdom is the mirage timeline's equivalent of Iran, having undergone a revolution in 1979 (possibly where the Archbishop of Canterbury replaced the British monarch as Britain's head of state). It is implied that Britain never colonized India or that India became independent sooner, since India appears to have fought World War II on its own. The United Arab States is clearly stated to be the world's second largest country by land area, implying that Canada, like the United States, is also broken up into minor states. The state of Latin America is not touched upon in the novel other than that Venezuela is an OPEC member who intervened in the Mexican Gulf War, and that the Mexican state of Coahuila is a dependency of Texas. A Cold War analog, known as the ''Cold Crusade'' between the UAS and an ''Orthodox Union'' is mentioned. The major political parties in the United Arab States are the Arab Unity Party (the analog of the Democratic Party) and the Party of God, or POG for short (the analog of the Republican Party, with POG possibly being a play on the Republican nickname GOP). Al Jazeera exists in this timeline as a FOX analog with a morning talk show called Jazeera and Friends. FOX also exists in the mirage timeline, but it appears to be reduced to being a propaganda center of Christian fundamentalists.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirage_(Ruff_novel)
    , @Jefferson
    "There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective."

    Another Jordan Peele movie that is about Blackity Black Black Black Black Blackity. Will Jordan Peele ever direct a movie where the central theme is not about Blackness? Is he even capable of that or is he a one trick pony as a director? Jordan Peele is the new Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.

    By the way Jordan Peele is half White, yet his first 2 movies are already about how evil White people are. Jordan is really trying to be a militant Black in order to compensate for his half Whiteness.

    , @J.Ross
    So Lovecraft's complexity is compressed into a Klansman cartoon, by the same tribe that completely flubbed every significant detail of the life of Alan Turing. I am missing absolutely nothing by rejecting Hollywood.
  63. Steve you should make a blog about the Black university professor who still keeps his job after advocating the killing of White people.

    Whatever happened to the Left’s motto of hate speech is not free speech? Oh yeah according to Left Wingers advocating for the murder of White people is not considered hate speech.

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  64. @syonredux
    Off-topic,

    Jordan Peele's next opus:

    ‘Get Out’s Jordan Peele Teams With WBTV, HBO & Bad Robot For ‘Lovecraft Country’ Drama Series; Misha Green Writing

    EXCLUSIVE: Get Out writer-director Jordan Peele’s Monkeypaw Productions is teaming with J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot and Warner Bros Television on Lovecraft Country, a one-hour drama that has been given a straight-to-series order by HBO. The pilot will be written by Underground executive producer/showrunner/writer Misha Green. Peele will be exec producer along with Green, Abrams and Ben Stephenson. Green will be showrunner.
     

    There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective.
     
    http://deadline.com/2017/05/jordan-peele-lovecraft-country-hbo-series-misha-green-1202095066/

    Matt Ruff, the author of Lovecraft Country:

    Ruff was born in New York City in 1965. His family are Lutheran, and he has German ancestry.[2] His father was a hospital chaplain, and his mother was a missionary’s daughter.[3] At the age of 5, he decided he wanted to be a fiction writer. He spent his childhood and adolescence learning how to tell stories.[1] As a child, many adults around him did not take his desire to become a writer seriously, and attempted to persuade him to choose a different career. However, Ruff’s mother was very supportive of him and his hope to become a writer, for one of Ruff’s birthdays, she bought him an IBM Selectric typewriter.

    Ruff grew up in New York City. From third to eighth grade, Ruff attended a parochial school.[2] He attended Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan; one of his teachers there was the memoirist Frank McCourt.[5] He graduated from Cornell University in 1987. Alison Lurie was one of Ruff’s English professors, and she helped Ruff find an agent.

    Ruff currently lives with his wife, Lisa Gold, in Seattle, Washington.

    A previous novel:

    The idea for The Mirage came when Matt Ruff was asked by a TV producer, who was a fan of his novel Bad Monkeys, whether he had an idea for a TV series. In an interview, Matt Ruff said “I’d been wanting to write something about the September 11 attacks and the War on Terror that would offer an unusual perspective while still being an engaging story, and I hit on this idea of setting a thriller in a world where the U.S. and the Middle East had traded places. That concept was a little too radical for television, so I decided to do it as a novel.“[1]

    The Mirage is set in an alternate history version of the year 2009. Much of the back-story is revealed in excerpts from the Library of Alexandria, this world’s version of Wikipedia funded by Muammar Gaddafi. A politically united Arabia (analogous to the real Arab League), declared independence from the Ottoman Empire at the end of the 19th century and established itself as the United Arab States. Throughout the 20th century, Arabia grew to occupy most of the Middle East and North Africa, and northern East Africa. Arabia intervened decisively in World War II on the Allied side, culminating in Adolf Hitler’s beheading at Nuremberg in 1946. The world’s only Jewish state was afterwards established in northeast Germany, with its capital in Berlin.
    North America, meanwhile, is divided among several feuding third-world nations. The largest, the Christian States of America (CSA), comprises 17 states along the East Coast, and is under the dictatorial rule of an aging Lyndon B. Johnson. In 1990, the Kingdom of Mississippi is annexed, becoming the 18th state. The Evangelical Republic of Texas includes Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and the Mexican state of Coahuila, and is allied with the United Arab States. A Rocky Mountain nation exists, but is split up among small tribal factions. The Pentecostal Gilead Heartland includes Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, and Tennessee. A Mormon nation also exists, although it is based in Missouri rather than Utah. In 1990, an attempt by the CSA to annex the Kingdom of Louisiana, fueled by Lyndon Johnson’s desire to claim Texas, resulted in the Mexican Gulf War.
    Other changes include: a third atomic bomb being dropped during World War II, on Tokyo; attacks by radical Christian terrorists on November 9, 2001 and; Arab President Bandar, in his state of the union address, describing America, the United Kingdom, and North Korea as “an Axis of Evil whose attempts to develop weapons of Mass destruction would no longer be tolerated.” Dialogue throughout the novel mentions a terrorist group known as the World Christian Alliance (this timeline’s equivalent of Al Qaeda) using the Rocky Mountains as its headquarters. It is not known who their leaders are or if they are aware of the mirage legend. The United Kingdom is the mirage timeline’s equivalent of Iran, having undergone a revolution in 1979 (possibly where the Archbishop of Canterbury replaced the British monarch as Britain’s head of state). It is implied that Britain never colonized India or that India became independent sooner, since India appears to have fought World War II on its own. The United Arab States is clearly stated to be the world’s second largest country by land area, implying that Canada, like the United States, is also broken up into minor states. The state of Latin America is not touched upon in the novel other than that Venezuela is an OPEC member who intervened in the Mexican Gulf War, and that the Mexican state of Coahuila is a dependency of Texas. A Cold War analog, known as the ”Cold Crusade” between the UAS and an ”Orthodox Union” is mentioned. The major political parties in the United Arab States are the Arab Unity Party (the analog of the Democratic Party) and the Party of God, or POG for short (the analog of the Republican Party, with POG possibly being a play on the Republican nickname GOP). Al Jazeera exists in this timeline as a FOX analog with a morning talk show called Jazeera and Friends. FOX also exists in the mirage timeline, but it appears to be reduced to being a propaganda center of Christian fundamentalists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirage_(Ruff_novel)

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't the Atlantic article interesting enough? Why not limit our comments to it, rather than these OT text dumps?
    , @Pericles
    Matt Ruff sure seems like an edgy fellow with a unique imagination. Who could ever have thought about trading places like that, I ask you? Who? OK, except maybe for White Man's Burden (1995) and maybe a couple of others. Heh, checkmate, bigots.
  65. @bored identity
    "... It was a long process, but Lola became a citizen in October 1998 … "


    How do you say chutzpah in Tagalog ?

    Duterte

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  66. @syonredux
    Off-topic,

    Jordan Peele's next opus:

    ‘Get Out’s Jordan Peele Teams With WBTV, HBO & Bad Robot For ‘Lovecraft Country’ Drama Series; Misha Green Writing

    EXCLUSIVE: Get Out writer-director Jordan Peele’s Monkeypaw Productions is teaming with J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot and Warner Bros Television on Lovecraft Country, a one-hour drama that has been given a straight-to-series order by HBO. The pilot will be written by Underground executive producer/showrunner/writer Misha Green. Peele will be exec producer along with Green, Abrams and Ben Stephenson. Green will be showrunner.
     

    There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective.
     
    http://deadline.com/2017/05/jordan-peele-lovecraft-country-hbo-series-misha-green-1202095066/

    “There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective.”

    Another Jordan Peele movie that is about Blackity Black Black Black Black Blackity. Will Jordan Peele ever direct a movie where the central theme is not about Blackness? Is he even capable of that or is he a one trick pony as a director? Jordan Peele is the new Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.

    By the way Jordan Peele is half White, yet his first 2 movies are already about how evil White people are. Jordan is really trying to be a militant Black in order to compensate for his half Whiteness.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.
     
    Although Summer of Sam did have this scene, where a Black lady is glad that the eponymous killer is White:

    Hello.
    My name is Cassandra Buchanan.
    I live there at 85 Crown Street...
    ...and I am going to give you
    your darker perspective.
    The darker perspective is:
    ...I thank God, I thank God, I thank God...
    ...that it is a white man
    that kills all of those white people.
    Because if it were a black man...
    ...who kills all of those white people...
    ...there would be the biggest race riot...
    ...right here in New York City.

     

    Of course, this race-war prediction is quite absurd, as California had a whole series of Black-on-White serial killings in 1973-74 and Whites didn't go on a rampage:

    The "Zebra" murders were a string of racially motivated murders that took place in San Francisco, California, from October 1973 to April 1974. A group of male Black Muslims who called themselves the "Death Angels" committed at least 15 murders and 8 attempted murders, mostly against white victims. However, some authorities believe they may have killed as many as 73, or more, victims.[1][2]
    Criminology professor Anthony Walsh wrote that the "San Francisco–based Death Angels may have killed more people in the early to mid-1970s than all the other serial killers operating during that period combined."[3] Police named the case "Zebra" after the special police radio band they assigned for the investigation.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_murders
    , @J.Ross
    Summer of Sam was "look at dese freakishly crazy white folk, I mean god damn, dey is crazy for real."
    24 Hours was "look how scared dat pussy ass white boy is, he know he goan get raped." The opening sequence however was like something a real director would do (the spotlights memorializing the Twin Towers are very carefully and solemnly activated and turned skyward).
    For Inside Man I knew Christopher Plummer's character was a Nazi without watching the half the movie and I correctly guessed that the scary-perfect robbers were Mossad because only Israelis are ever depicted as righteously frightening, and because Mossad hunting Nazis is a more plausible and compelling story to any Hollywood money-loser than say oh I don't know what normally goes on in large New York City banks, especially in that time period. This is honestly like watching some Arab or Turkish movie where the Jews are so unquestionably set as The Bad Guys that their badness becomes surreal and incomprehensible. Even if white people really were as bad as Spike Lee sees us, these movies would still be artistically indefensible.
    , @Lurker
    I've seen "Inside Man". Plenty of pozzing of course but it shows he can turn out a solid piece of work.
    , @Clyde
    @syonredux, @J.Ross, @Lurker I can outdo all you jamokes. I have never seen an S.pike Lee movie and never will.
  67. Biggest Neoliberal to walk the Earth?

    JK Rowling bows down to the Slave-Raised Brown Guy Eternally Damaged by Microagressions

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  68. @syonredux

    and heard taught him to be ashamed of his face, his skin color, his height.
     
    I suspect that the last condition looms large (so to speak)

    But then he says the rise of Jeremy Lin changed all that and now things are much better,bedroom wise, for those plucky slave holding Asians!

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  69. @AnotherGuessModel
    Why can't it be both? I'd also like to know how a slave (or even a legal servant) could emigrate to the USA with this or any family, and whether the slave ownership was uncovered and dealt with at all in the woman's citizenship process years later. The objective of Tizon's article was to share his painful, shattering secret and give some humanity back to Lola, but it's more than appropriate for journalists to take his mantle and ask some hard questions regarding immigration policy.

    His father worked for the Philippine Consulate which allowed one domestic.

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    A lot of the slavery in the USA stories you hear involve people with diplomatic cover.
  70. I guess he treated Lola better than his mom did. Didn’t see anything about back pay. I wonder where the Filipino-American community comes down on reparations?

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  71. @syonredux
    Off-topic,

    Jordan Peele's next opus:

    ‘Get Out’s Jordan Peele Teams With WBTV, HBO & Bad Robot For ‘Lovecraft Country’ Drama Series; Misha Green Writing

    EXCLUSIVE: Get Out writer-director Jordan Peele’s Monkeypaw Productions is teaming with J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot and Warner Bros Television on Lovecraft Country, a one-hour drama that has been given a straight-to-series order by HBO. The pilot will be written by Underground executive producer/showrunner/writer Misha Green. Peele will be exec producer along with Green, Abrams and Ben Stephenson. Green will be showrunner.
     

    There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective.
     
    http://deadline.com/2017/05/jordan-peele-lovecraft-country-hbo-series-misha-green-1202095066/

    So Lovecraft’s complexity is compressed into a Klansman cartoon, by the same tribe that completely flubbed every significant detail of the life of Alan Turing. I am missing absolutely nothing by rejecting Hollywood.

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    So Lovecraft’s complexity is compressed into a Klansman cartoon, by the same tribe that completely flubbed every significant detail of the life of Alan Turing. I am missing absolutely nothing by rejecting Hollywood.
     
    It's badly written, too. I read the first section of Lovecraft Country, and it was a slog.
  72. @Kaz
    Jeez I'm a bit taken aback at how callous everyone seems to be in this thread.

    He was a kid when it all started, he did the best he could.

    He didn't have to tell anyone in his memoirs or anything, he could have passed away as an award winning journalist and that's that.

    In his dying act he made sure the world knew about something that would put a black mark on his family and filipino people in general.

    He had to live with the consequences of his parents' actions his whole life in private, when he had the power to actually do something, he made things right and took care of his de-facto mother.

    Thought experiment: all else the same, but Lola was black and he and his family were white.

    Same reaction by you and others?

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  73. @syonredux
    Matt Ruff, the author of Lovecraft Country:

    Ruff was born in New York City in 1965. His family are Lutheran, and he has German ancestry.[2] His father was a hospital chaplain, and his mother was a missionary's daughter.[3] At the age of 5, he decided he wanted to be a fiction writer. He spent his childhood and adolescence learning how to tell stories.[1] As a child, many adults around him did not take his desire to become a writer seriously, and attempted to persuade him to choose a different career. However, Ruff's mother was very supportive of him and his hope to become a writer, for one of Ruff's birthdays, she bought him an IBM Selectric typewriter.
     

    Ruff grew up in New York City. From third to eighth grade, Ruff attended a parochial school.[2] He attended Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan; one of his teachers there was the memoirist Frank McCourt.[5] He graduated from Cornell University in 1987. Alison Lurie was one of Ruff's English professors, and she helped Ruff find an agent.
     

    Ruff currently lives with his wife, Lisa Gold, in Seattle, Washington.

     

    A previous novel:

    The idea for The Mirage came when Matt Ruff was asked by a TV producer, who was a fan of his novel Bad Monkeys, whether he had an idea for a TV series. In an interview, Matt Ruff said "I’d been wanting to write something about the September 11 attacks and the War on Terror that would offer an unusual perspective while still being an engaging story, and I hit on this idea of setting a thriller in a world where the U.S. and the Middle East had traded places. That concept was a little too radical for television, so I decided to do it as a novel."[1]
     

    The Mirage is set in an alternate history version of the year 2009. Much of the back-story is revealed in excerpts from the Library of Alexandria, this world's version of Wikipedia funded by Muammar Gaddafi. A politically united Arabia (analogous to the real Arab League), declared independence from the Ottoman Empire at the end of the 19th century and established itself as the United Arab States. Throughout the 20th century, Arabia grew to occupy most of the Middle East and North Africa, and northern East Africa. Arabia intervened decisively in World War II on the Allied side, culminating in Adolf Hitler's beheading at Nuremberg in 1946. The world's only Jewish state was afterwards established in northeast Germany, with its capital in Berlin.
    North America, meanwhile, is divided among several feuding third-world nations. The largest, the Christian States of America (CSA), comprises 17 states along the East Coast, and is under the dictatorial rule of an aging Lyndon B. Johnson. In 1990, the Kingdom of Mississippi is annexed, becoming the 18th state. The Evangelical Republic of Texas includes Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and the Mexican state of Coahuila, and is allied with the United Arab States. A Rocky Mountain nation exists, but is split up among small tribal factions. The Pentecostal Gilead Heartland includes Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, and Tennessee. A Mormon nation also exists, although it is based in Missouri rather than Utah. In 1990, an attempt by the CSA to annex the Kingdom of Louisiana, fueled by Lyndon Johnson's desire to claim Texas, resulted in the Mexican Gulf War.
    Other changes include: a third atomic bomb being dropped during World War II, on Tokyo; attacks by radical Christian terrorists on November 9, 2001 and; Arab President Bandar, in his state of the union address, describing America, the United Kingdom, and North Korea as "an Axis of Evil whose attempts to develop weapons of Mass destruction would no longer be tolerated." Dialogue throughout the novel mentions a terrorist group known as the World Christian Alliance (this timeline's equivalent of Al Qaeda) using the Rocky Mountains as its headquarters. It is not known who their leaders are or if they are aware of the mirage legend. The United Kingdom is the mirage timeline's equivalent of Iran, having undergone a revolution in 1979 (possibly where the Archbishop of Canterbury replaced the British monarch as Britain's head of state). It is implied that Britain never colonized India or that India became independent sooner, since India appears to have fought World War II on its own. The United Arab States is clearly stated to be the world's second largest country by land area, implying that Canada, like the United States, is also broken up into minor states. The state of Latin America is not touched upon in the novel other than that Venezuela is an OPEC member who intervened in the Mexican Gulf War, and that the Mexican state of Coahuila is a dependency of Texas. A Cold War analog, known as the ''Cold Crusade'' between the UAS and an ''Orthodox Union'' is mentioned. The major political parties in the United Arab States are the Arab Unity Party (the analog of the Democratic Party) and the Party of God, or POG for short (the analog of the Republican Party, with POG possibly being a play on the Republican nickname GOP). Al Jazeera exists in this timeline as a FOX analog with a morning talk show called Jazeera and Friends. FOX also exists in the mirage timeline, but it appears to be reduced to being a propaganda center of Christian fundamentalists.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirage_(Ruff_novel)

    Isn’t the Atlantic article interesting enough? Why not limit our comments to it, rather than these OT text dumps?

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    Isn’t the Atlantic article interesting enough? Why not limit our comments to it, rather than these OT text dumps?
     
    Just bringing up stuff that might be of interest to Steve and his readers.
  74. @Steve Sailer
    The advantage of being a serf over being a slave is your owner can't move you to the other side of the world like the Tizon family did to their slave.

    Are you serious Sailer , you nitwit ? WTF do you think open borders are about ? The difference and advantage for our masters is that internally American citizens since the 70′s have paid their own way to be relocated and now where once slavers had to go to Africa and risk their lives and treasure to bring slaves here , the Negros for the most part compete for the opportunity and pay their own way . The Latinos risk life and limb to enslave themselves here far from their homes . I haven’t lived in 14 states because I like to travel . I like so many others was driven from place to place by Arithmetic . You , you fortunate bastard can live where you chose by pumping out great volumes of gas to keep you afloat in Sunny Southern California . “The advantage of being a serf over being a slave” what would you know about either you conceited tosser ?

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    Are you and "Priss Factor" the same person?
    , @J.Ross
    "The Negros pay their own way."
    Okay.
    I like how, as at 4chan, you people believe your own caricature about teenagers in basements, so that's what you prepare for. But hey, at least there aren't twenty of you appearing at the same instant, and thanks for taking the time to Correct The Record.
    , @slumber_j
    Since when did we start saying "tosser" around here? In any of the 14 states you've lived in, I mean.

    Nice tone...and so tony!
    , @Paul Walker - Most beautiful man ever...
    Who you calling "tosser" malaka papari?
  75. @JW Bell
    His father worked for the Philippine Consulate which allowed one domestic.

    A lot of the slavery in the USA stories you hear involve people with diplomatic cover.

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    The stories I hear almost all involve retroactive Saudi diplomatic immunity.
    , @a reader

    A lot of the slavery in the USA stories you hear involve people with diplomatic cover.
     
    Incredibly, in France as well:

    Slavery at the Consulate-General of Morocco in Orly.

    The Saudi embassy judged for the calamity of "modern slave" Jainab.

    (Sorry, in French)
  76. I’m fascinated by how the slaveowners went through a long legal process to legalize their poor slave’s presence in this country without much in the way of hassles from our federal government asking any nosy questions.

    As with polygamy and pedophilia, slavery is only a crime when white people do it.

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  77. @Gijn
    Interesting story, and definitely different from the main article, since it seems like she couldn't really care for herself. Was she actually mentally disabled or something along those lines? What was known about her origins and original upbringing? How did she come into your family? When did she die?

    She seemed mentally disabled, but I’m not absolutely certain. Ignorant and insecure, certainly. Possibly a bit simple. She died of old age in the convent. Illiteracy was not uncommon for a peasant woman at the time.

    She was one of the many peasants that worked the land, as they had for hundreds of years. I don’t know anything about their upbringing, and I don’t think castes were as formal in China as they were in say, India. Still farmers tended to become farmers. I know that we were seen as superior human beings with secret knowledge and occult powers; literacy certain grants many abilities and whatnot, at the least.

    Was an interesting time. We have our ancestral graves in one of the wealthiest parts of Shanghai. I’ve always found it morbidly amusing, because supposedly, we have treasures buried in the graves, and in times of desperation, family lore tells of how to recover that treasure.

    Well, the commies have built an gigantic airport over the location of our graves.

    Guess I won’t be doing any treasure hunting.

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  78. @Jefferson
    "There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective."

    Another Jordan Peele movie that is about Blackity Black Black Black Black Blackity. Will Jordan Peele ever direct a movie where the central theme is not about Blackness? Is he even capable of that or is he a one trick pony as a director? Jordan Peele is the new Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.

    By the way Jordan Peele is half White, yet his first 2 movies are already about how evil White people are. Jordan is really trying to be a militant Black in order to compensate for his half Whiteness.

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.

    Although Summer of Sam did have this scene, where a Black lady is glad that the eponymous killer is White:

    Hello.
    My name is Cassandra Buchanan.
    I live there at 85 Crown Street…
    …and I am going to give you
    your darker perspective.
    The darker perspective is:
    …I thank God, I thank God, I thank God…
    …that it is a white man
    that kills all of those white people.
    Because if it were a black man…
    …who kills all of those white people…
    …there would be the biggest race riot…
    …right here in New York City.

    Of course, this race-war prediction is quite absurd, as California had a whole series of Black-on-White serial killings in 1973-74 and Whites didn’t go on a rampage:

    The “Zebra” murders were a string of racially motivated murders that took place in San Francisco, California, from October 1973 to April 1974. A group of male Black Muslims who called themselves the “Death Angels” committed at least 15 murders and 8 attempted murders, mostly against white victims. However, some authorities believe they may have killed as many as 73, or more, victims.[1][2]
    Criminology professor Anthony Walsh wrote that the “San Francisco–based Death Angels may have killed more people in the early to mid-1970s than all the other serial killers operating during that period combined.”[3] Police named the case “Zebra” after the special police radio band they assigned for the investigation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_murders

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    Blacks can't be serial killers, just like they can't be racists, by definition.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    At the time Summer of Sam came out, I had a conversation with a Jewish colleague about the movie because this guy was from NY and lived there at the time of the murders. I asked him, noting that the film was a thematic departure for Lee, why Lee would make a movie about the Son of Sam murders. The man didn't even hesitate the think before replying: "Hates Jews".
  79. @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't the Atlantic article interesting enough? Why not limit our comments to it, rather than these OT text dumps?

    Isn’t the Atlantic article interesting enough? Why not limit our comments to it, rather than these OT text dumps?

    Just bringing up stuff that might be of interest to Steve and his readers.

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  80. @J.Ross
    So Lovecraft's complexity is compressed into a Klansman cartoon, by the same tribe that completely flubbed every significant detail of the life of Alan Turing. I am missing absolutely nothing by rejecting Hollywood.

    So Lovecraft’s complexity is compressed into a Klansman cartoon, by the same tribe that completely flubbed every significant detail of the life of Alan Turing. I am missing absolutely nothing by rejecting Hollywood.

    It’s badly written, too. I read the first section of Lovecraft Country, and it was a slog.

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    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
    RELATE EXAMPLES OF THIS
    TEACHABLE MOMENT
    I will never forget reading the first review of the Bionic Woman reboot at Television Without Pity. It must be read to be believed, but I have not seen it since then, and fear it was taken down. Does anyone remember the hoax script mocking Michael Bay back when he was getting rich by making Transformers a teenage soap opera for meth addicts? "We have to hack into ... the internet!"
  81. @Jefferson
    "There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective."

    Another Jordan Peele movie that is about Blackity Black Black Black Black Blackity. Will Jordan Peele ever direct a movie where the central theme is not about Blackness? Is he even capable of that or is he a one trick pony as a director? Jordan Peele is the new Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.

    By the way Jordan Peele is half White, yet his first 2 movies are already about how evil White people are. Jordan is really trying to be a militant Black in order to compensate for his half Whiteness.

    Summer of Sam was “look at dese freakishly crazy white folk, I mean god damn, dey is crazy for real.”
    24 Hours was “look how scared dat pussy ass white boy is, he know he goan get raped.” The opening sequence however was like something a real director would do (the spotlights memorializing the Twin Towers are very carefully and solemnly activated and turned skyward).
    For Inside Man I knew Christopher Plummer’s character was a Nazi without watching the half the movie and I correctly guessed that the scary-perfect robbers were Mossad because only Israelis are ever depicted as righteously frightening, and because Mossad hunting Nazis is a more plausible and compelling story to any Hollywood money-loser than say oh I don’t know what normally goes on in large New York City banks, especially in that time period. This is honestly like watching some Arab or Turkish movie where the Jews are so unquestionably set as The Bad Guys that their badness becomes surreal and incomprehensible. Even if white people really were as bad as Spike Lee sees us, these movies would still be artistically indefensible.

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  82. @syonredux

    So Lovecraft’s complexity is compressed into a Klansman cartoon, by the same tribe that completely flubbed every significant detail of the life of Alan Turing. I am missing absolutely nothing by rejecting Hollywood.
     
    It's badly written, too. I read the first section of Lovecraft Country, and it was a slog.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
    RELATE EXAMPLES OF THIS
    TEACHABLE MOMENT
    I will never forget reading the first review of the Bionic Woman reboot at Television Without Pity. It must be read to be believed, but I have not seen it since then, and fear it was taken down. Does anyone remember the hoax script mocking Michael Bay back when he was getting rich by making Transformers a teenage soap opera for meth addicts? “We have to hack into … the internet!”

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  83. @donut
    Are you serious Sailer , you nitwit ? WTF do you think open borders are about ? The difference and advantage for our masters is that internally American citizens since the 70's have paid their own way to be relocated and now where once slavers had to go to Africa and risk their lives and treasure to bring slaves here , the Negros for the most part compete for the opportunity and pay their own way . The Latinos risk life and limb to enslave themselves here far from their homes . I haven't lived in 14 states because I like to travel . I like so many others was driven from place to place by Arithmetic . You , you fortunate bastard can live where you chose by pumping out great volumes of gas to keep you afloat in Sunny Southern California . "The advantage of being a serf over being a slave" what would you know about either you conceited tosser ?

    Are you and “Priss Factor” the same person?

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    I don't think 'priss factor' is donut.
    , @donut
    Thank you for thinking of me Johnny , a true friend , but you know I'm Hitler . And now I would like to take this opportunity to post some music up in this bitch , you feel me ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYd5cRlROE

    I have the GERD real bad got to get some Baking Soda and put that fire out .

    Oh hey here is another good tune you can hum on your way to work .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihdjg18t6ZE

  84. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/05/15/american-gods-features-muslim-characters-in-explicit-gay-sex-scene/

    Immigrants bless us with slavery, and we bless Muslims with the bromance of buggery.

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    There was one, briefly described gay scene in the novel, but the co-creator of the TV show is gay, so he indulged himself with it in Sunday's episode.

    The show is pretty well done overall though.


    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/864158625715154945
  85. @donut
    Are you serious Sailer , you nitwit ? WTF do you think open borders are about ? The difference and advantage for our masters is that internally American citizens since the 70's have paid their own way to be relocated and now where once slavers had to go to Africa and risk their lives and treasure to bring slaves here , the Negros for the most part compete for the opportunity and pay their own way . The Latinos risk life and limb to enslave themselves here far from their homes . I haven't lived in 14 states because I like to travel . I like so many others was driven from place to place by Arithmetic . You , you fortunate bastard can live where you chose by pumping out great volumes of gas to keep you afloat in Sunny Southern California . "The advantage of being a serf over being a slave" what would you know about either you conceited tosser ?

    “The Negros pay their own way.”
    Okay.
    I like how, as at 4chan, you people believe your own caricature about teenagers in basements, so that’s what you prepare for. But hey, at least there aren’t twenty of you appearing at the same instant, and thanks for taking the time to Correct The Record.

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  86. @donut
    Are you serious Sailer , you nitwit ? WTF do you think open borders are about ? The difference and advantage for our masters is that internally American citizens since the 70's have paid their own way to be relocated and now where once slavers had to go to Africa and risk their lives and treasure to bring slaves here , the Negros for the most part compete for the opportunity and pay their own way . The Latinos risk life and limb to enslave themselves here far from their homes . I haven't lived in 14 states because I like to travel . I like so many others was driven from place to place by Arithmetic . You , you fortunate bastard can live where you chose by pumping out great volumes of gas to keep you afloat in Sunny Southern California . "The advantage of being a serf over being a slave" what would you know about either you conceited tosser ?

    Since when did we start saying “tosser” around here? In any of the 14 states you’ve lived in, I mean.

    Nice tone…and so tony!

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    I had an English accent before you were born bender , I'm a cosmopolitan muthafukka you feel me byatch ?
  87. @Kaz
    Jeez I'm a bit taken aback at how callous everyone seems to be in this thread.

    He was a kid when it all started, he did the best he could.

    He didn't have to tell anyone in his memoirs or anything, he could have passed away as an award winning journalist and that's that.

    In his dying act he made sure the world knew about something that would put a black mark on his family and filipino people in general.

    He had to live with the consequences of his parents' actions his whole life in private, when he had the power to actually do something, he made things right and took care of his de-facto mother.

    He died of a heart attack, iirc. I have not timed things out completely but I think he held this back the story until he was past the 10 year statute of limitation for peonage under the US Code.

    My parents were from a backward part of the world. The stories they told of back in the day would curl your hair. They never wanted to go back.

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  88. @27 year old
    Not going to spin it positively, but I don't really care about it. It's none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other. This family should never have been allowed in to our country, but that's unrelated. If they don't have their slave hooked in to our social services, and they provide housing and food etc, who cares? You could say this kind of slavery is better than the standard American model where every rich person "owns" a 1/1000th share of a Task Rabbit or an Uber driver who earn negligible pay plus don't have a free place to live or free food and have to fend for themselves or get section 8/food stamps, etc etc. Ok maybe that was a positive spin.

    > It’s none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other.

    It might be, if you trade with them.

    Thought experiment: Child pornography is illegal primarily because its production involves doing horrible damage to children. Should child pornography be legal if accompanied by a certificate proving it was not made in the US, and that no US citizen children were involved in its production?

    I am glad the west used its influence to get Saudi Arabia & friends to ban slavery in the 60′s. At least on paper. For every Filipino or Indian slave here there are a thousand there.

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    Thought experiment: Child pornography is illegal primarily because its production involves doing horrible damage to children.
     
    Thank goodness those eighteen candles in that cake make the damage go away.
  89. A weird and creepy story. Of course, the author crafts his own role as complicit, yet somehow remorseful and even moral, using his culture and upbringing as an explanation of why things were the way they were. Southern whites don’t currently have that social advantage when describing slavery that existed in the South.

    But slavery often was/is a much more complex relationship than the social “thinkers” of today want to make it. My guess is that as Africa moves towards it’s peak 4 billion population later this century, slavery within the continent will make a huge comeback. It wasn’t really outlawed in central Africa until about 15 years ago, and still happens frequently, though illegally…which illustrates the complexity. Among those who experience it, being sold into slavery might just be preferable to starving to death, and with 4 billion Africans, there’s gonna be a whole lot of starving to death.

    I can just hear the open borders leftist do-gooders of 2087 now, arguing that we shouldn’t be so judgemental of the cultural traditions of the billion or so Africans who want to come to the US…traditions like serfdom and slavery. If it weren’t for the looming tragedy for what remains of the US by that time, the irony would be delicious.

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  90. @(((Owen)))

    the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest
     
    Probably the best chance in an Israel-style war of the cradle. Replace the western cult of infertility with a mideast death cult everyone can try to dominate an Islamic west that's no longer worth saving.

    It would be far better to close the borders, deport the invaders and crush the traitors.

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    It would be far better to close the borders, deport the invaders and crush the traitors.
     
    The recent election in France and the upcoming one in Germany tell us that will never be on the menu. The only question remaining is if Europeans survive in their homelands as a second class minority or are expelled and exterminated.
  91. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    The girl/woman taken in by your family sounds like a saint – mainly interested in making life better for others. How lucky you were to have known her. She sounds more like a spinster aunt than a slave, and I would judge her life to have been very well-lived.

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  92. @Steve Sailer
    A lot of the slavery in the USA stories you hear involve people with diplomatic cover.

    The stories I hear almost all involve retroactive Saudi diplomatic immunity.

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  93. @Jefferson
    "There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective."

    Another Jordan Peele movie that is about Blackity Black Black Black Black Blackity. Will Jordan Peele ever direct a movie where the central theme is not about Blackness? Is he even capable of that or is he a one trick pony as a director? Jordan Peele is the new Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.

    By the way Jordan Peele is half White, yet his first 2 movies are already about how evil White people are. Jordan is really trying to be a militant Black in order to compensate for his half Whiteness.

    I’ve seen “Inside Man”. Plenty of pozzing of course but it shows he can turn out a solid piece of work.

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  94. O/T but relevant as a guide to immigrant experiences in a different era. The Victorian Slum House documentary portrays life in East End London over the latter part of the 19th century. There are some uncomfortable parallels to current and prospective US life.

    http://flixstertomatoes.com/tv/victorian_slum_house/s01/

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  95. For millenia people bound themselves to wealthy families in exchange for shelter and food because life was that precarious and security that difficult to come by. We have changed the culture a great deal but should be careful of our pride as all of the changes may be less permanent than we believe. Many of the changes in our culture are a result of easy money and the easy “growth” it has engendered. We have danced, but soon the Piper must be paid.

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  96. @J.Ross
    When I briefly resided and read newspapers in the Arabian Gulf, I never saw any of the naked and medieval anti-Semitism which various non-profit organizations would like to bother you about, but every single damned day there was a human interest piece about a mistreated "servant:" a suicide, a foiled suicide, an escape, an escape stopped by police (who are always on the side of the owners), an abuse claim. By far the most common was attempted suicide. In our press, every now and then you will see South Asians in the news because they were rubbing ground chili peppers into a slave's eyes.

    The Berber use heated copper coins.
    Paul Bowles wrote a fictional piece about it and Tom Russell put it to song:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zGQ9z7rbn7zufjEjhB-WM4o3I2AwKWgWxBrB0AwqY0w/edit

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  97. @donut
    Are you serious Sailer , you nitwit ? WTF do you think open borders are about ? The difference and advantage for our masters is that internally American citizens since the 70's have paid their own way to be relocated and now where once slavers had to go to Africa and risk their lives and treasure to bring slaves here , the Negros for the most part compete for the opportunity and pay their own way . The Latinos risk life and limb to enslave themselves here far from their homes . I haven't lived in 14 states because I like to travel . I like so many others was driven from place to place by Arithmetic . You , you fortunate bastard can live where you chose by pumping out great volumes of gas to keep you afloat in Sunny Southern California . "The advantage of being a serf over being a slave" what would you know about either you conceited tosser ?

    Who you calling “tosser” malaka papari?

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  98. @Federalist
    No, the story doesn't have anything to do with immigration. Growing up, it was typical for me and my U.S. born friends to be cared for by slaves that were given by our grandfathers to our mothers. Who the hell would have raised us and taken care of us otherwise? Our own mothers? Don't be ridiculous. That's what slaves are for.

    My long dead great great grandfather helped free the slaves in the US back 1861-65. The left has been erasing that part of history in parellel with the ongoing CSA monument removal program. (Unless the NAACP or SPLC needs a cash infusion from donors) If you erase the collective memory the only thing left is what the educational left teaches the next generation.

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    • Replies: @Federalist
    True. The Left is anti-Confederacy but they also want to remove the Union from history as well. Black slavery ended because whites ended it. The blacks didn't liberate themselves. The same goes for everything having to do with civil rights. We can deify MLK, etc, but Jim Crow ended because white people and white society ended it. Whites desegregated schools (very much against the wishes of other whites). Blacks got the right to vote when whites decided that they could. Leftists can be all butt hurt about micro-aggressions against people of color but I think that a big part of the problem is the insecurity on the part of blacks and SJW's that blacks had very little to do with ending slavery or achieving anything in their civil rights "struggle." White people did it for them. The Civil War, 13th Amendment, Reconstruction, desegregation, etc. were all battles (some literal and some figurative) between groups of white people.

    There is really no great myth to inspire. It's not like the Exodus. God didn't free the blacks from slavery. There was no black Spartacus. We rightly deride the "We wuz kangs" delusion. Of course, they weren't kings but even if they were that was in the very distant past. In America, they were slaves owned by white men, not kings.
  99. @syonredux

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.
     
    Although Summer of Sam did have this scene, where a Black lady is glad that the eponymous killer is White:

    Hello.
    My name is Cassandra Buchanan.
    I live there at 85 Crown Street...
    ...and I am going to give you
    your darker perspective.
    The darker perspective is:
    ...I thank God, I thank God, I thank God...
    ...that it is a white man
    that kills all of those white people.
    Because if it were a black man...
    ...who kills all of those white people...
    ...there would be the biggest race riot...
    ...right here in New York City.

     

    Of course, this race-war prediction is quite absurd, as California had a whole series of Black-on-White serial killings in 1973-74 and Whites didn't go on a rampage:

    The "Zebra" murders were a string of racially motivated murders that took place in San Francisco, California, from October 1973 to April 1974. A group of male Black Muslims who called themselves the "Death Angels" committed at least 15 murders and 8 attempted murders, mostly against white victims. However, some authorities believe they may have killed as many as 73, or more, victims.[1][2]
    Criminology professor Anthony Walsh wrote that the "San Francisco–based Death Angels may have killed more people in the early to mid-1970s than all the other serial killers operating during that period combined."[3] Police named the case "Zebra" after the special police radio band they assigned for the investigation.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_murders

    Blacks can’t be serial killers, just like they can’t be racists, by definition.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Blacks can’t be serial killers, just like they can’t be racists, by definition."

    Also Blacks can never be guilty of hate speech either, hence why they can still keep their jobs and not get fired even after openly advocating for White genocide.
  100. @Anon
    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/05/15/american-gods-features-muslim-characters-in-explicit-gay-sex-scene/

    Immigrants bless us with slavery, and we bless Muslims with the bromance of buggery.

    There was one, briefly described gay scene in the novel, but the co-creator of the TV show is gay, so he indulged himself with it in Sunday’s episode.

    The show is pretty well done overall though.

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    • Replies: @Pericles
    (((Neil Gaiman))) once more kisses the idol of Baal.
  101. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    Daniel,

    A very moving story. I believe it. It reflects very credibly on both you and your forefathers.

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  102. @Jefferson
    "There is connective tissue to Peele’s breakout genre feature Get Out, which brought a Black Lives Matter theme to the horror genre. Lovecraft Country, the 2016 novel from Matt Ruff, focuses on 25-year-old Atticus Black. After his father goes missing, Black joins up with his friend Letitia and his Uncle George to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America to find him. This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the malevolent spirits that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback. The goal is an anthological horror series that reclaims genre storytelling from the African-American perspective."

    Another Jordan Peele movie that is about Blackity Black Black Black Black Blackity. Will Jordan Peele ever direct a movie where the central theme is not about Blackness? Is he even capable of that or is he a one trick pony as a director? Jordan Peele is the new Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.

    By the way Jordan Peele is half White, yet his first 2 movies are already about how evil White people are. Jordan is really trying to be a militant Black in order to compensate for his half Whiteness.

    , , I can outdo all you jamokes. I have never seen an S.pike Lee movie and never will.

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    • Replies: @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    You should at least check out the first half of 'Bamboozled.' It is fricking hil-larious.
  103. @biz
    I've noted before that I agree this will happen. So what do you think is the timescale?

    The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years - significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period. With those conversions, for the women, will come dressing modestly, giving up drinking, and settling down as wives with Muslim men.

    It’d be hilarious if it happened so quickly, but I think it will take longer. Perhaps the first few conversions will happen within the next decade, but not more.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    What would be "hilarious" about our women openly caving in to savage backwards bullies, betraying their nation and their family, and siding with our enemies?
  104. I took the time to read the entire (long) article. Touching.
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon’s behavoir.
    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    This kind of arrangement is not is not the first time this has occurred in the history of the world. In facts its common

    Every so often there are stories of Asian immigrants to America whose maids are held in near human bondage. Many sex workers in (US) Asian Massage Parlors are thought to be slaves. There have been many stories of wealthy Arabs who come to America with servants who are slaves in everything but name.

    VS Naipaul in his 1971 Booker prize winner ‘In A free State” describes an Indian who is brought to DC as the servant of young Indian diplomat. He sleeps in the walk in closet of his master’s apartment. He cooks cleans and does assorted tasks for his master unpaid. In fact he is told that he owes the cost of the plae ticket that brought him to America. When he runs away to be a cook in an Indian restaurant his master tracks him down shocked and hurt that he could be so heartless as to escape.

    It’s not just third worlder’s either.

    In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn’t have to risk going to prostitutes.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    What happened when the peasant girl got pregnant?
    , @Anonymous
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon’s behavoir.

    What's surprising is that so many are praising a vile hypocrite for finally taking her to see what remained of her family when she was in her eighties, after a lifetime of condoning her enslavement. Celebrating him for being humane enough to feel kinda sad about the whole thing and for having some writing talent.

    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    Hilarious. Especially in the context of his parents' actions costing this woman a life of her own and an opportunity to have and raise her own children. And the probability that at least one of the men in his family who'd owned her abused her sexually as well. Not surprising that Tizon wouldn't care about rubbing salt in the wound, though... His slave's 2011 obituary reads like the work of a sociopath. The cultural excuse is irrelevant in his case. He said it himself, insisted on it throughout his hypocritical, hate-filled career - he and his siblings were Americans.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    I noted that the mothers of such families often seem to be quite accomplished, seemingly freed from the duties of housework and childcare.

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don't have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!
    , @3g4me
    @109 jesse helms think-alike: "In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn’t have to risk going to prostitutes."

    I lived with an Italian diplomatic family in DC while going to grad school. The arrangement was for room only, since they were concerned their live-in cook/housekeeper {who had helped care for the wife since she was a child} would resent my eating with the family and cause massive disruption. She was not a slave in any sense, though, and had married and had her own family {I recall meeting one of her grown daughters, living in America but with a strong Italian accent}. There weren't any problems because I went out of my way to charm the woman, who spoke no English and, by the family's account, no standard Italian either - only a dialect they seemed to regard as equivalent to ebonics. Again, this woman was no slave, was paid, and there was no sexual component {at the very least due to the age difference}, but there was definitely a life-long devotion to and protectiveness of the family.
    , @Mikey Darmody

    By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn’t have to risk going to prostitutes.
     
    This was customary? As in, a recognized practice, considered perfectly normal, and with a foreknown pattern? I have to ask about your sources for this claim. Most people have never heard of this practice, which almost certainly would have had consequences that were noticeable and negative. Frankly, it sounds rather ridiculous, although I suppose anything is possible.
  105. @jesse helms think-alike
    I took the time to read the entire (long) article. Touching.
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon's behavoir.
    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    This kind of arrangement is not is not the first time this has occurred in the history of the world. In facts its common

    Every so often there are stories of Asian immigrants to America whose maids are held in near human bondage. Many sex workers in (US) Asian Massage Parlors are thought to be slaves. There have been many stories of wealthy Arabs who come to America with servants who are slaves in everything but name.

    VS Naipaul in his 1971 Booker prize winner 'In A free State" describes an Indian who is brought to DC as the servant of young Indian diplomat. He sleeps in the walk in closet of his master's apartment. He cooks cleans and does assorted tasks for his master unpaid. In fact he is told that he owes the cost of the plae ticket that brought him to America. When he runs away to be a cook in an Indian restaurant his master tracks him down shocked and hurt that he could be so heartless as to escape.

    It's not just third worlder's either.

    In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn't have to risk going to prostitutes.

    What happened when the peasant girl got pregnant?

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    What happened when the peasant girl got pregnant?
     
    then she became Adolf's grandmother

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/was-hitler-jewish
  106. @theo the kraut
    Feminists import sexy Muslim macroaggressors while decrying local losers' microaggressions, imposing taxes as punishment. 50 shades of Islamic submission are worth 1001 flimsy rationalizations.

    “Feminists import sexy Muslim macroaggressors while decrying local losers’ microaggressions”

    BBC do docudrama of (one) Muslim grooming scandal, (male) reviewer Sean O’Grady

    “As we know, the great majority of these underage girls were, as the officially classification goes, “White British”; the majority of their abusers, as is equally clear, were “Asian” – men in their thirties, forties and fifties. Or, as the protests from Hindu and Sikh groups pointed out, one could add predominantly Muslim individuals of Pakistani heritage. This is not obscured in the drama. Yet these men were far from the only sexual abusers in Britain, and these criminal perversions are never confined to any ethnic or (nominally) religious group. Islam, after all, does not condone alcohol, drugs or rape… Sex abuse cases are spread across ethnic and religious groups, and always have been. Abusers, though we don’t always like to face it, are often within families and are people known to the victims – hence the use of “grooming” techniques. In the case of the “VIP” rings, or in the churches, children’s homes or in showbiz, …”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/tv-review-three-girls-bbc1-a7737161.html

    The BBC have done better than independent TV though, where the popular soap Coronation Street has bravely addressed the issue by showing a white male grooming his young girlfriend to share her round his friends.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    Guardian - "Through them, Holly meets a circle of older Asian men. " The M-word or I-word are not found, though another Guardian piece talks about building "strong families and communities" - they were pretty strong some 60 years back, but the Guardian/BBC have been working hard since then to trash them.

    Telegraph - "Between 2005 and 2008, hundreds of teenage girls were groomed and sexually abused by Asian men in the Rochdale area... Three Girls will be seized on by opportunists seeking to denigrate British Muslim culture"

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/may/17/three-girls-review-rochdale-child-sexual-abuse-scandal

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-one-review-rochdale-sex-abuse-drama-hard/

  107. @Dave Pinsen
    Who will be the first to write a positive spin on this slavery?:

    - Matt Yglesias

    - Alex Nowrasteh

    - Noah Smith

    - Adam Ozimek

    I hear Tennessee Coates is looking for an innovative lucrative storyline these days.

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  108. @Dave Pinsen
    What happened when the peasant girl got pregnant?

    What happened when the peasant girl got pregnant?

    then she became Adolf’s grandmother

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/was-hitler-jewish

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    • Replies: @guest
    But the reason we call him Hitler instead of Schicklgruber is that Hitler's father was eventually claimed by his white grandfather. Why would that guy have done so if the actual grandfather was some rich Jew?
  109. @Barnard
    OT: Obama extension for West Africans fleeing Ebola ends. I hope no one tells Ivanka about this, maybe they can slip it past her.

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/05/15/ebola-tps-status-termination

    Or the eeyores around here for that matter.

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  110. @Anonymous Nephew
    "Feminists import sexy Muslim macroaggressors while decrying local losers’ microaggressions"

    BBC do docudrama of (one) Muslim grooming scandal, (male) reviewer Sean O'Grady

    "As we know, the great majority of these underage girls were, as the officially classification goes, “White British”; the majority of their abusers, as is equally clear, were “Asian” – men in their thirties, forties and fifties. Or, as the protests from Hindu and Sikh groups pointed out, one could add predominantly Muslim individuals of Pakistani heritage. This is not obscured in the drama. Yet these men were far from the only sexual abusers in Britain, and these criminal perversions are never confined to any ethnic or (nominally) religious group. Islam, after all, does not condone alcohol, drugs or rape... Sex abuse cases are spread across ethnic and religious groups, and always have been. Abusers, though we don't always like to face it, are often within families and are people known to the victims – hence the use of “grooming” techniques. In the case of the “VIP” rings, or in the churches, children's homes or in showbiz, ..."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/tv-review-three-girls-bbc1-a7737161.html

    The BBC have done better than independent TV though, where the popular soap Coronation Street has bravely addressed the issue by showing a white male grooming his young girlfriend to share her round his friends.

    Guardian – “Through them, Holly meets a circle of older Asian men. “ The M-word or I-word are not found, though another Guardian piece talks about building “strong families and communities” – they were pretty strong some 60 years back, but the Guardian/BBC have been working hard since then to trash them.

    Telegraph – “Between 2005 and 2008, hundreds of teenage girls were groomed and sexually abused by Asian men in the Rochdale area… Three Girls will be seized on by opportunists seeking to denigrate British Muslim culture”

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/may/17/three-girls-review-rochdale-child-sexual-abuse-scandal

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-one-review-rochdale-sex-abuse-drama-hard/

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    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    There is ample evidence that the Muslim men in Britain responsible for numerous "child-grooming" serial rape outrages are from one specific group known as Mirpuris, from the Mirpur district in the region of Kashmir that is in Pakistan.

    The evidence includes scattered unguarded references in the mainstream outlets such as the BBC or the Guardian, but numerous references elsewhere, including articles by Mirpuri women and others who are willing to be direct.

    A Google search for "Mirpuri grooming" turns up many results that substantiate this.

    According to Wikipedia, about 60% of the reports of forced marriage in the UK can be traced to Mirpuri Muslims. Consanguineous marriage rates are at 55% and rising.

    Immigration tied to the need for cheap labor by industry is stated as the historical reason for Mirpuris migrating to the UK—a tale that should be familiar to those here on iSteve.


    The reasons for the large proportion of Mirpuris in the United Kingdom is historical. Mirpur was considered to be a conservative district in 1960s, and life in its rural villages, was dominated by rigid hierarchies. In the late 1950s and early 1960s, the Government of Pakistan planned the Mangla Dam, which was to be built in the Mirpur area. They asked several thousand locals to leave the land. At that time, the British needed man-power mainly for their textile factories. Up to 5,000 people from Mirpur (five per cent of the displaced) left for Britain, the displaced Mirpuris being given legal and financial assistance by the British contractor which had built the dam.Many started working in factories, mostly in the so-called "Black Country" and the area of Bradford, England. In some villages, more than half the village population moved to the United Kingdom to settle in the industrial towns. This rural, impoverished district provided cheap, unskilled labour for Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.
     
    , @RadicalCenter
    Apparently Muslims are Muslim when doing something good, and "Asian" or some such nonsense when doing something cruel, violent, or underhanded. Funny how that works.
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    @jesse helms think-alike
    I took the time to read the entire (long) article. Touching.
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon's behavoir.
    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    This kind of arrangement is not is not the first time this has occurred in the history of the world. In facts its common

    Every so often there are stories of Asian immigrants to America whose maids are held in near human bondage. Many sex workers in (US) Asian Massage Parlors are thought to be slaves. There have been many stories of wealthy Arabs who come to America with servants who are slaves in everything but name.

    VS Naipaul in his 1971 Booker prize winner 'In A free State" describes an Indian who is brought to DC as the servant of young Indian diplomat. He sleeps in the walk in closet of his master's apartment. He cooks cleans and does assorted tasks for his master unpaid. In fact he is told that he owes the cost of the plae ticket that brought him to America. When he runs away to be a cook in an Indian restaurant his master tracks him down shocked and hurt that he could be so heartless as to escape.

    It's not just third worlder's either.

    In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn't have to risk going to prostitutes.

    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon’s behavoir.

    What’s surprising is that so many are praising a vile hypocrite for finally taking her to see what remained of her family when she was in her eighties, after a lifetime of condoning her enslavement. Celebrating him for being humane enough to feel kinda sad about the whole thing and for having some writing talent.

    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    Hilarious. Especially in the context of his parents’ actions costing this woman a life of her own and an opportunity to have and raise her own children. And the probability that at least one of the men in his family who’d owned her abused her sexually as well. Not surprising that Tizon wouldn’t care about rubbing salt in the wound, though… His slave’s 2011 obituary reads like the work of a sociopath. The cultural excuse is irrelevant in his case. He said it himself, insisted on it throughout his hypocritical, hate-filled career – he and his siblings were Americans.

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    [H]e and his siblings were Americans.
     
    Yep, because they happened to be born on the Magic Dirt. That's why they didn't so crazy, alien shit like countenance slavery in the present day; their American live of freedom and self-determination practically leaps off the pages.

    And why wouldn't it? Although latecomers themselves, it was their great-great-great-great grandpappy, Charleston T. Peabody Tizon, who first framed the Zeroth Amendment in Philadelphia.
  112. @Clark Westwood
    Why is the article so vague about the ethnicities of the people involved?

    It’s fairly forthcoming, but it doesn’t go out of its way to mention it. “Tagalog”, “The Philippines”, etc. You had to read through much more of Starship Troopers to figure out the race of Johnny Rico.

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  113. @Reg Cæsar
    I had a professor whose rudeness I'd assumed was just the Hong Kong way. But a fellow student learned that the man's family had escaped there from Shanghai when he was about six.

    Hong Kong was where he was first forced to walk. In his family's Shanghai compound, servants carried him everywhere. Lingering resentment?

    Don’t Shanghainese have a reputation for brusqueness, or is that all mainlanders?

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  114. @AndrewR
    Are you illiterate or just dishonest?

    Neither. Dave Pinsen (#8) asked who would be first to put a positive spin on this story. Did you not put a positive spin on the story?

    Now who is illiterate or dishonest?

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  115. @Anonymous Nephew
    Guardian - "Through them, Holly meets a circle of older Asian men. " The M-word or I-word are not found, though another Guardian piece talks about building "strong families and communities" - they were pretty strong some 60 years back, but the Guardian/BBC have been working hard since then to trash them.

    Telegraph - "Between 2005 and 2008, hundreds of teenage girls were groomed and sexually abused by Asian men in the Rochdale area... Three Girls will be seized on by opportunists seeking to denigrate British Muslim culture"

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/may/17/three-girls-review-rochdale-child-sexual-abuse-scandal

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-one-review-rochdale-sex-abuse-drama-hard/

    There is ample evidence that the Muslim men in Britain responsible for numerous “child-grooming” serial rape outrages are from one specific group known as Mirpuris, from the Mirpur district in the region of Kashmir that is in Pakistan.

    The evidence includes scattered unguarded references in the mainstream outlets such as the BBC or the Guardian, but numerous references elsewhere, including articles by Mirpuri women and others who are willing to be direct.

    A Google search for “Mirpuri grooming” turns up many results that substantiate this.

    According to Wikipedia, about 60% of the reports of forced marriage in the UK can be traced to Mirpuri Muslims. Consanguineous marriage rates are at 55% and rising.

    Immigration tied to the need for cheap labor by industry is stated as the historical reason for Mirpuris migrating to the UK—a tale that should be familiar to those here on iSteve.

    The reasons for the large proportion of Mirpuris in the United Kingdom is historical. Mirpur was considered to be a conservative district in 1960s, and life in its rural villages, was dominated by rigid hierarchies. In the late 1950s and early 1960s, the Government of Pakistan planned the Mangla Dam, which was to be built in the Mirpur area. They asked several thousand locals to leave the land. At that time, the British needed man-power mainly for their textile factories. Up to 5,000 people from Mirpur (five per cent of the displaced) left for Britain, the displaced Mirpuris being given legal and financial assistance by the British contractor which had built the dam.Many started working in factories, mostly in the so-called “Black Country” and the area of Bradford, England. In some villages, more than half the village population moved to the United Kingdom to settle in the industrial towns. This rural, impoverished district provided cheap, unskilled labour for Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.

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    This rural, impoverished district provided cheap, unskilled labour for Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.
     
    Wasn't so cheap after all.
    , @jim jones
    Pakistanis were imported into Britain by the Labour Party to form a reliable voting bloc
  116. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    Thanks for this personal anecdote. Absolutely fascinating.

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  117. @syonredux
    Muslims Are the True Feminists

    So it’s no surprise to see Muslim woman today modeling themselves after these prominent female figures. Muslim girls look towards these instances of strength for guidance in this scary, patriarchal society. These modern women are not afraid to go against the grain in the name of their belief like wearing the hijab to covey their religious devotion. Hijab is the headscarf that is worn by Muslim woman and no; it is not supposed to be forced on them by their fathers and husbands. Wearing or not wearing the Hijab reflects a Muslim woman’s own a personal choice.

    For me, this idea especially showcases feminism in America. With all of the pressures in our American society to have a certain physical allure; to have long, luscious hair, a skinny yet curvy body, flawless facial beauty, woman go through hell. With this, we succumb to the pressures that we generally think we are free of; we oppress our natural womanhood with constant worry about how we look to others around us. We do not have the courage to stand up to this societal critique and say ‘my body is not to be ogled at’.
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

    Two things, one – whiskey was right about American women loving Islam because it does away w fat shaming, etc by imposing religious fundamentalist garb.

    Next – we need to stop the games and cut to the pt….

    Our women really do want to be dominated. Just encountered my third woman in so many weeks w a choke and spank fetish.

    Women dont knoe what they want….they want a dominant man to figure it out for them

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Our women really do want to be dominated."

    Feminists want to be dominated but not by the White male patriarchy. Feminists want to be dominated by the Black and Brown male patriarchy (Arab Muslim men, South Asian Muslim men, Mestizo men, Black men).
  118. Yeah Sailer , these halfwits with their less than useless BA Degrees rush to your defense . I myself have made my way reluctantly by hard manual labor . I can tie a bowline and a clove hitch . I never feared the Ocean or death , in a storm I went out on the poop deck and mocked God and dared him to take my life . You as many of your commenters are nothing more than over educated comfortable white faggots . Besides your bunny and your income you have no other interests . Work for a living you gas bag .

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    If you made your way by manual labor only reluctantly, you imply you would rather have not done so, yet you condemn any who earn their money by, say, writing, as Steve does. This position seems to contradict itself and suggests a certain bitter hypocrisy.

    Mind you, also, that many in this world walk neither the path of an overworked roustabout nor that of a pampered intellectual. A great many live lives alternating such experiences, and amny in between.

    I confess I myself currently dick around with a computer for money, but I have in the past mowed lawns; moved furniture; toiled in the kitchens of McDonald's, Arby's, Checker's, Wendy's, and Krystal; sold tchotchkes at the mall during Christmas, working for a petty and incompetent yet fabulously wealthy homosexual; painted buildings; hauled, cut, and installed sprinkler systems (that steel pipe is not light!); dug ditches; cleaned toilets; operated cash-registers; repaired and maintained avionics during twelve-hour shifts in a war zone; worked cutting plastic parts on assembly lines at factories where no other worker spoke English; patrolled parking decks overnight just across the street from a crime-infested housing project; Hell, I once spent three days scrubbing guano out of a hangar until I was covered in the stuff from head to toe – I had to throw away the coveralls I wore for the assignment.

    You know what? I'll warrant I've lived a dull life of ease compared to half of the other people who read this blog and comment here.

    Get over yourself, dude. I think you're sometimes funny and engaging, but I also suspect you might could use a sit-down with a good friend, a kindly priest, or a trusted counselor. Alternatively, maybe you just need a swift kick in the pants.
  119. @Clyde
    @syonredux, @J.Ross, @Lurker I can outdo all you jamokes. I have never seen an S.pike Lee movie and never will.

    You should at least check out the first half of ‘Bamboozled.’ It is fricking hil-larious.

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  120. @reiner Tor
    I already referred to this in the previous thread, but on second thought it's not very hilarious.

    Though this article stops short of advocating for the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest of us, unless we do so, too. I didn't believe it would be so seamless, but it is bound to happen. I mean, are you an Islamophobe, a racist, or just a sexist pig for opposing conversion to Islam? How can you be so patriarchal not to convert to Islam, you white supremacist pig?

    I have my hopes that the SJWs then will become mullahs and start praying seven times a day to show their virtue. The rest will duly follow, or perhaps there will be scimitars and beheadings. Either way I’m fine with it.

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  121. @Dave Pinsen
    There was one, briefly described gay scene in the novel, but the co-creator of the TV show is gay, so he indulged himself with it in Sunday's episode.

    The show is pretty well done overall though.


    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/864158625715154945

    (((Neil Gaiman))) once more kisses the idol of Baal.

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  122. @27 year old
    Not going to spin it positively, but I don't really care about it. It's none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other. This family should never have been allowed in to our country, but that's unrelated. If they don't have their slave hooked in to our social services, and they provide housing and food etc, who cares? You could say this kind of slavery is better than the standard American model where every rich person "owns" a 1/1000th share of a Task Rabbit or an Uber driver who earn negligible pay plus don't have a free place to live or free food and have to fend for themselves or get section 8/food stamps, etc etc. Ok maybe that was a positive spin.

    It’s none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other.

    You might not be interested in them, but they are interested in you, since, apparently, they are moving here to colonize us and codify their cousin marriage; clitoridectomies; etc.

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  123. @syonredux
    Matt Ruff, the author of Lovecraft Country:

    Ruff was born in New York City in 1965. His family are Lutheran, and he has German ancestry.[2] His father was a hospital chaplain, and his mother was a missionary's daughter.[3] At the age of 5, he decided he wanted to be a fiction writer. He spent his childhood and adolescence learning how to tell stories.[1] As a child, many adults around him did not take his desire to become a writer seriously, and attempted to persuade him to choose a different career. However, Ruff's mother was very supportive of him and his hope to become a writer, for one of Ruff's birthdays, she bought him an IBM Selectric typewriter.
     

    Ruff grew up in New York City. From third to eighth grade, Ruff attended a parochial school.[2] He attended Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan; one of his teachers there was the memoirist Frank McCourt.[5] He graduated from Cornell University in 1987. Alison Lurie was one of Ruff's English professors, and she helped Ruff find an agent.
     

    Ruff currently lives with his wife, Lisa Gold, in Seattle, Washington.

     

    A previous novel:

    The idea for The Mirage came when Matt Ruff was asked by a TV producer, who was a fan of his novel Bad Monkeys, whether he had an idea for a TV series. In an interview, Matt Ruff said "I’d been wanting to write something about the September 11 attacks and the War on Terror that would offer an unusual perspective while still being an engaging story, and I hit on this idea of setting a thriller in a world where the U.S. and the Middle East had traded places. That concept was a little too radical for television, so I decided to do it as a novel."[1]
     

    The Mirage is set in an alternate history version of the year 2009. Much of the back-story is revealed in excerpts from the Library of Alexandria, this world's version of Wikipedia funded by Muammar Gaddafi. A politically united Arabia (analogous to the real Arab League), declared independence from the Ottoman Empire at the end of the 19th century and established itself as the United Arab States. Throughout the 20th century, Arabia grew to occupy most of the Middle East and North Africa, and northern East Africa. Arabia intervened decisively in World War II on the Allied side, culminating in Adolf Hitler's beheading at Nuremberg in 1946. The world's only Jewish state was afterwards established in northeast Germany, with its capital in Berlin.
    North America, meanwhile, is divided among several feuding third-world nations. The largest, the Christian States of America (CSA), comprises 17 states along the East Coast, and is under the dictatorial rule of an aging Lyndon B. Johnson. In 1990, the Kingdom of Mississippi is annexed, becoming the 18th state. The Evangelical Republic of Texas includes Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and the Mexican state of Coahuila, and is allied with the United Arab States. A Rocky Mountain nation exists, but is split up among small tribal factions. The Pentecostal Gilead Heartland includes Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, and Tennessee. A Mormon nation also exists, although it is based in Missouri rather than Utah. In 1990, an attempt by the CSA to annex the Kingdom of Louisiana, fueled by Lyndon Johnson's desire to claim Texas, resulted in the Mexican Gulf War.
    Other changes include: a third atomic bomb being dropped during World War II, on Tokyo; attacks by radical Christian terrorists on November 9, 2001 and; Arab President Bandar, in his state of the union address, describing America, the United Kingdom, and North Korea as "an Axis of Evil whose attempts to develop weapons of Mass destruction would no longer be tolerated." Dialogue throughout the novel mentions a terrorist group known as the World Christian Alliance (this timeline's equivalent of Al Qaeda) using the Rocky Mountains as its headquarters. It is not known who their leaders are or if they are aware of the mirage legend. The United Kingdom is the mirage timeline's equivalent of Iran, having undergone a revolution in 1979 (possibly where the Archbishop of Canterbury replaced the British monarch as Britain's head of state). It is implied that Britain never colonized India or that India became independent sooner, since India appears to have fought World War II on its own. The United Arab States is clearly stated to be the world's second largest country by land area, implying that Canada, like the United States, is also broken up into minor states. The state of Latin America is not touched upon in the novel other than that Venezuela is an OPEC member who intervened in the Mexican Gulf War, and that the Mexican state of Coahuila is a dependency of Texas. A Cold War analog, known as the ''Cold Crusade'' between the UAS and an ''Orthodox Union'' is mentioned. The major political parties in the United Arab States are the Arab Unity Party (the analog of the Democratic Party) and the Party of God, or POG for short (the analog of the Republican Party, with POG possibly being a play on the Republican nickname GOP). Al Jazeera exists in this timeline as a FOX analog with a morning talk show called Jazeera and Friends. FOX also exists in the mirage timeline, but it appears to be reduced to being a propaganda center of Christian fundamentalists.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirage_(Ruff_novel)

    Matt Ruff sure seems like an edgy fellow with a unique imagination. Who could ever have thought about trading places like that, I ask you? Who? OK, except maybe for White Man’s Burden (1995) and maybe a couple of others. Heh, checkmate, bigots.

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  124. @PiltdownMan
    There is ample evidence that the Muslim men in Britain responsible for numerous "child-grooming" serial rape outrages are from one specific group known as Mirpuris, from the Mirpur district in the region of Kashmir that is in Pakistan.

    The evidence includes scattered unguarded references in the mainstream outlets such as the BBC or the Guardian, but numerous references elsewhere, including articles by Mirpuri women and others who are willing to be direct.

    A Google search for "Mirpuri grooming" turns up many results that substantiate this.

    According to Wikipedia, about 60% of the reports of forced marriage in the UK can be traced to Mirpuri Muslims. Consanguineous marriage rates are at 55% and rising.

    Immigration tied to the need for cheap labor by industry is stated as the historical reason for Mirpuris migrating to the UK—a tale that should be familiar to those here on iSteve.


    The reasons for the large proportion of Mirpuris in the United Kingdom is historical. Mirpur was considered to be a conservative district in 1960s, and life in its rural villages, was dominated by rigid hierarchies. In the late 1950s and early 1960s, the Government of Pakistan planned the Mangla Dam, which was to be built in the Mirpur area. They asked several thousand locals to leave the land. At that time, the British needed man-power mainly for their textile factories. Up to 5,000 people from Mirpur (five per cent of the displaced) left for Britain, the displaced Mirpuris being given legal and financial assistance by the British contractor which had built the dam.Many started working in factories, mostly in the so-called "Black Country" and the area of Bradford, England. In some villages, more than half the village population moved to the United Kingdom to settle in the industrial towns. This rural, impoverished district provided cheap, unskilled labour for Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.
     

    This rural, impoverished district provided cheap, unskilled labour for Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.

    Wasn’t so cheap after all.

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  125. The Narrative Stays the Same …

    An uplifting story about immigrants bringing their slaves and other local customs with them when they relocate to the United States. This is not an isolated case. In the broad span of things, the Internet is awash with shorts about the continued existence of chattel and de facto slavery in Haiti, subSaharan Africa, the sheikdoms of the Arabian peninsula, and Asia. They often bring their slaves with them when they come to the United States to visit or to stay.

    However, there is a tone in many of the comments that anticipates what might be the evolving Narrative that ensures that White cisgendered males continue to be the personification of evil in the world.

    You see, as in the above story, Asian slavery is a benign form of slavery in which slaves become ersatz members of the family and household. The same is true in the continuing traditions of slavery in subSaharan Africa and Haiti … caring for those who cannot care for themselves as it were.

    White slavery, on the other hand, was a thing apart. It was an especially vile form of slavery that exploited the slaves to a degree that motivated the Whites themselves to force a violent end to it in the 19th Century. Indeed, the plight of the White-owned slaves was so odious that it continues to justify special social and economic privileges and reparations for their descendants down to the sixth generation.

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    "This is not an isolated case. In the broad span of things, the Internet is awash with shorts about the continued existence of chattel and de facto slavery in Haiti, subSaharan Africa, the sheikdoms of the Arabian peninsula, and Asia"

    If you are a Black slave in 2017, there is a 100 percent chance your slavemaster is also Black.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Appreciate your comment and would add this: what about the vast majority of white Americans who had ZERO slave-owning ancestors in the USA?

    In fact, many of us (like me) did not even have ancestors in the USA until after slavery was abolished throughout the country.

    What about Asian-Americans like my wife, who had zero ancestors in the USA until slavery was abolished, Reconstruction was done, and even Jim Crow regimes in the States had been eliminated?

    We too pay "reparations" for something that none of our families had ANYTHING to do with -- enormous financial payments -- in the form of higher taxes, higher car-insurance premiums (theft), higher security costs (theft and violence), higher medical-insurance premiums, higher college tuition (to cover aid disproportionately given to African-"American" kids), private-school tuition (to avoid the hypersexuality, violence, intimidation, and drug use that characterize African "public" schools and neighborhoods more than all others), etc.

    WE deserve repayment by the African-anti-American "community." I won't hold my breath.

  126. the question I have is what percentage of the population of the Philippines are Lolas and what percent are Alex’s. That is those who can fend for themselves in the world and those who cannot. Looking for the number for those who have left the country. And those who have stayed.

    After years of emigration, has the average IQ of the remaining Filipino population fallen?

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  127. I’ll bet sweet Lola lives on federal assistance and votes Democrat. I’ll bet she also sent for dozens of her other family members so they, too, could live at the expense of the white taxpaying slaves while voting against them.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "I’ll bet sweet Lola lives on federal assistance and votes Democrat. ?"

    Of course she is a Democrat, after all she is a Filipina. With the exception of Michelle Malkin, there are practically no Filipino Right Wingers. Michelle Malkin has even been called a coconut in her own community (Brown on the outside, White on the inside) because her political views are to the political Right of 99 percent of Filipinos.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I'll bet you didn't read the article.
  128. @AndrewR
    Jesus Christ. That story made me cry. Very good writing. The author seems like a wonderful person. As did Lola.

    This story could have many lessons to teach us but your sarcastic title to this story seems like you either didn't read the whole piece or you're dishonest. The most obvious lesson from this story is how people who grow up in the US can reject their barbaric ancestral customs. Obviously we know this doesn't always happen, and probably this happens more with some ethnicities than others, but I think most sane people would see this as an immigrant success story. The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. I don't know how anyone could read this piece as an argument against immigration. Perhaps if the parents had never had children, that story would be good anti-immigration fodder. But this story does seem to support the Magic Dirt theory.

    “When you was slaves, you sang like birds!”

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  129. @Anonymous
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon’s behavoir.

    What's surprising is that so many are praising a vile hypocrite for finally taking her to see what remained of her family when she was in her eighties, after a lifetime of condoning her enslavement. Celebrating him for being humane enough to feel kinda sad about the whole thing and for having some writing talent.

    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    Hilarious. Especially in the context of his parents' actions costing this woman a life of her own and an opportunity to have and raise her own children. And the probability that at least one of the men in his family who'd owned her abused her sexually as well. Not surprising that Tizon wouldn't care about rubbing salt in the wound, though... His slave's 2011 obituary reads like the work of a sociopath. The cultural excuse is irrelevant in his case. He said it himself, insisted on it throughout his hypocritical, hate-filled career - he and his siblings were Americans.

    [H]e and his siblings were Americans.

    Yep, because they happened to be born on the Magic Dirt. That’s why they didn’t so crazy, alien shit like countenance slavery in the present day; their American live of freedom and self-determination practically leaps off the pages.

    And why wouldn’t it? Although latecomers themselves, it was their great-great-great-great grandpappy, Charleston T. Peabody Tizon, who first framed the Zeroth Amendment in Philadelphia.

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  130. @Neoconned
    Just looked @ this guy's profile -- born in 59 -- old as my father. Damn I'm getting old.

    Anyway -- this just goes to show what I strongly suspect -- we're on our way to a fragmenting, balkanizing society......

    I imagine the slave or servant or whatever you wish to call her was also probably a mistress to the dude's dad.

    Go read the article. Lola died a virgin and never had a romantic interest past the age of 15. She was denied almost every facet of human life by her ‘Masters’.

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  131. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. . . discovered Christianity and attended church religiously . . . Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Or perhaps self-sacrificing service is bliss.

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  132. @AndrewR
    Indeed, it sounds like your family's servant was much better treated than Lola.

    Of course she was!

    Don’t you remember that Chieh’s Pet “was illiterate, basically worshipped his family, and had the mind of a child.”?

    Nameless Lo-La was totally blessed to be life-time chatteled by Daniel’s reratirevry enlightened grandparents.

    This sacharine laced Famiry Story makes you fully understand why so many rice paddy dwellers got eagerly absorbed by Mao’s Little Red Picture Book.

    Ra Ra Ra-Ra Ra Raa Ra-Ra….

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    @Dave Pinsen
    Who will be the first to write a positive spin on this slavery?:

    - Matt Yglesias

    - Alex Nowrasteh

    - Noah Smith

    - Adam Ozimek

    Genius TN Coates (while simultaneously twisting himself into a pretzel).

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  134. @reiner Tor
    I already referred to this in the previous thread, but on second thought it's not very hilarious.

    Though this article stops short of advocating for the mass conversions of all feminists to Islam, I seriously believe that at least in Europe really soon most leftists will quickly convert to Islam and will zealously persecute the rest of us, unless we do so, too. I didn't believe it would be so seamless, but it is bound to happen. I mean, are you an Islamophobe, a racist, or just a sexist pig for opposing conversion to Islam? How can you be so patriarchal not to convert to Islam, you white supremacist pig?

    Yes, and it will start with the elites. When? Who knows? It’s already amazing how long Europe has drifted along without a real faith.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    To a great extent SJW-ism has substituted for Christianity - just look at environmentalists with their tales of an unspoiled Eden ruined by fallen Man, or radical feminists with their legends of an elder matriarchy (which may even have existed in our hunter-gatherer days ten millennia back).

    But as the contradictions grow, and the Muslim population and influence grows, then I can see the trickle of converts become a flood.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1243624/Revealed-The-Muslim-toyboy-whos-secretly-married-Boriss-ex-wife.html
  135. @oddsbodkins
    > It’s none of my business what kind of backwards or cruel arrangements foreigners get into with each other.

    It might be, if you trade with them.

    Thought experiment: Child pornography is illegal primarily because its production involves doing horrible damage to children. Should child pornography be legal if accompanied by a certificate proving it was not made in the US, and that no US citizen children were involved in its production?

    I am glad the west used its influence to get Saudi Arabia & friends to ban slavery in the 60's. At least on paper. For every Filipino or Indian slave here there are a thousand there.

    Thought experiment: Child pornography is illegal primarily because its production involves doing horrible damage to children.

    Thank goodness those eighteen candles in that cake make the damage go away.

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  136. @Lurker
    It would be far better to close the borders, deport the invaders and crush the traitors.

    It would be far better to close the borders, deport the invaders and crush the traitors.

    The recent election in France and the upcoming one in Germany tell us that will never be on the menu. The only question remaining is if Europeans survive in their homelands as a second class minority or are expelled and exterminated.

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  137. @Reg Cæsar
    If she was born in Iowa City, chances are her father, and perhaps mother, was an academic.

    Possibly, but the university hospital there tends also to see a high-than-usual share of risky deliveries as well as beneficiaries of public services from vast parts of the state. Also, it’d be unusual for academics or people who just received graduate training there to move to Carlsbad, CA, I would think.

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  138. @AndrewR
    Jesus Christ. That story made me cry. Very good writing. The author seems like a wonderful person. As did Lola.

    This story could have many lessons to teach us but your sarcastic title to this story seems like you either didn't read the whole piece or you're dishonest. The most obvious lesson from this story is how people who grow up in the US can reject their barbaric ancestral customs. Obviously we know this doesn't always happen, and probably this happens more with some ethnicities than others, but I think most sane people would see this as an immigrant success story. The American-raised kids give their sweet slave a happy life and a loving send-off. I don't know how anyone could read this piece as an argument against immigration. Perhaps if the parents had never had children, that story would be good anti-immigration fodder. But this story does seem to support the Magic Dirt theory.

    It doesn’t support magic dirt. The reason reason that the author grew up that way was the culture he was surrounded by, not some property of the land. If you bring in enough people from another culture to overwhelm the existing one, the dirt will not overcome the culture they bring.

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  139. @Daniel H
    I added the following statement to the article's comment feed. Let's see if it gets deleted.

    "Slave running. Slave mastering. Just another case of immigrants doing the jobs that Americans won't do."

    You’re very edgy!

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  140. @guest
    Blacks can't be serial killers, just like they can't be racists, by definition.

    “Blacks can’t be serial killers, just like they can’t be racists, by definition.”

    Also Blacks can never be guilty of hate speech either, hence why they can still keep their jobs and not get fired even after openly advocating for White genocide.

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    • Replies: @Lurker
    And watching any TV drama made in the English speaking world I can be pretty sure they never mug, rob, rape or murder anyone either.
  141. Lola is Pinay? According to Barry Manilow, Lola was a showgirl from Copacabana. Last time I checked there aren’t any Filipina chicks in Copacabana.

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    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    Sorry buddy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemG0cvc4oU
  142. @jesse helms think-alike
    I took the time to read the entire (long) article. Touching.
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon's behavoir.
    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    This kind of arrangement is not is not the first time this has occurred in the history of the world. In facts its common

    Every so often there are stories of Asian immigrants to America whose maids are held in near human bondage. Many sex workers in (US) Asian Massage Parlors are thought to be slaves. There have been many stories of wealthy Arabs who come to America with servants who are slaves in everything but name.

    VS Naipaul in his 1971 Booker prize winner 'In A free State" describes an Indian who is brought to DC as the servant of young Indian diplomat. He sleeps in the walk in closet of his master's apartment. He cooks cleans and does assorted tasks for his master unpaid. In fact he is told that he owes the cost of the plae ticket that brought him to America. When he runs away to be a cook in an Indian restaurant his master tracks him down shocked and hurt that he could be so heartless as to escape.

    It's not just third worlder's either.

    In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn't have to risk going to prostitutes.

    I noted that the mothers of such families often seem to be quite accomplished, seemingly freed from the duties of housework and childcare.

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don’t have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!

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    That's the most interesting thing going unmentioned here: this two professional family with three children is producing so much housework that their slave is routinely falling asleep folding laundry late at night. Even assuming that if you aren't paying for labor you're going to have housework done to a higher standard (if I could get my baseboards washed weekly for free I would), that's still a monumental amount of labor. And having wound up folding laundry at one in the morning more times than I can count, I'd believe it. And nobody is saying, "Wait, maybe there's a problem with the two career model?"
    , @Bill B.

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don’t have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!
     
    I don't think so. More that public schools were held to provide a superior education. There were no 'good' state schools. And remember that girls mostly stayed at home.

    N.B. Tizon - who flaunted a Filipino heritage when it suited him - likely knew that institutions akin to slavery were, indeed almost certainly are, quite common in the Philippines.

    I stayed with a family of land owners in Luzon in the 1980s where I was introduced to at least two youths who were "helping out" because their parents owed money. They were treated "as family" i.e. they got no pay. It was clear they had been there for years.

    The Filipino elites clearly do not give a toss about the great swathe of the population that works abroad as essentially bonded labour very often completely at the mercy of their temporary owners.

    One women's rights worker in Manila told me that it was almost par for the course for a nubile girl to return from the Gulf abused, sometimes broken, sometimes pregnant.

    I remember being given a tour of Nicosia's nightclubs on a stopover a decade ago to hear in every joint Filipinas complaining that their passports had been taken to make sure that they worked their "debt" off.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Daniel Chieh,

    I believe one of the reasons for upper class English shipping their male progeny to boarding schools was to toughen them up to the rigors of running the far flung British Empire. Having the boys at home with other distractions would detract from that end.

    , @3g4me
    @150 Daniel Chieh: "Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing . . . "

    Quite the cultural imperialist here, aren't we. Perhaps "not wanting to take care of children" seems to be a wealthy global thing. Shall I regale you with tales of Singapore mothers whose newborns spent days on end in the nursery, being wheeled out once a day to be shown to visitors? How about the wealthy Thais we knew who left their youngest at the hospital for at least 3 months after birth because the mother said she needed some rest, and besides they took excellent care of her. Or for the most current example, all the FOB Chinese here in Texas who import their parents {who they diligently ensure get Suppemental Social Security although they never paid in a penny nor lived or worked in America} to care for their children while they bilk the White man out of his country.
  143. @KenH
    I'll bet sweet Lola lives on federal assistance and votes Democrat. I'll bet she also sent for dozens of her other family members so they, too, could live at the expense of the white taxpaying slaves while voting against them.

    “I’ll bet sweet Lola lives on federal assistance and votes Democrat. ?”

    Of course she is a Democrat, after all she is a Filipina. With the exception of Michelle Malkin, there are practically no Filipino Right Wingers. Michelle Malkin has even been called a coconut in her own community (Brown on the outside, White on the inside) because her political views are to the political Right of 99 percent of Filipinos.

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  144. Every one of my liberal friends has linked to this story on either Facebook or Twitter, and mentioned how it “made them cry.”

    The virtue signaling is strong.

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    Happened over here as well.
    , @AndrewR
    Not everything is virtue signalling.
  145. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    Very moving. I hope she was truly happy.

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  146. @TheJester
    The Narrative Stays the Same ...

    An uplifting story about immigrants bringing their slaves and other local customs with them when they relocate to the United States. This is not an isolated case. In the broad span of things, the Internet is awash with shorts about the continued existence of chattel and de facto slavery in Haiti, subSaharan Africa, the sheikdoms of the Arabian peninsula, and Asia. They often bring their slaves with them when they come to the United States to visit or to stay.

    However, there is a tone in many of the comments that anticipates what might be the evolving Narrative that ensures that White cisgendered males continue to be the personification of evil in the world.

    You see, as in the above story, Asian slavery is a benign form of slavery in which slaves become ersatz members of the family and household. The same is true in the continuing traditions of slavery in subSaharan Africa and Haiti ... caring for those who cannot care for themselves as it were.

    White slavery, on the other hand, was a thing apart. It was an especially vile form of slavery that exploited the slaves to a degree that motivated the Whites themselves to force a violent end to it in the 19th Century. Indeed, the plight of the White-owned slaves was so odious that it continues to justify special social and economic privileges and reparations for their descendants down to the sixth generation.

    “This is not an isolated case. In the broad span of things, the Internet is awash with shorts about the continued existence of chattel and de facto slavery in Haiti, subSaharan Africa, the sheikdoms of the Arabian peninsula, and Asia”

    If you are a Black slave in 2017, there is a 100 percent chance your slavemaster is also Black.

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  147. @Hunsdon
    "When you was slaves, you sang like birds!"

    “Now you’re free, you sink like turds”

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  148. @Neoconned
    Two things, one - whiskey was right about American women loving Islam because it does away w fat shaming, etc by imposing religious fundamentalist garb.

    Next - we need to stop the games and cut to the pt....

    Our women really do want to be dominated. Just encountered my third woman in so many weeks w a choke and spank fetish.

    Women dont knoe what they want....they want a dominant man to figure it out for them

    “Our women really do want to be dominated.”

    Feminists want to be dominated but not by the White male patriarchy. Feminists want to be dominated by the Black and Brown male patriarchy (Arab Muslim men, South Asian Muslim men, Mestizo men, Black men).

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  149. @syonredux

    Even Spike Lee will once in awhile will make a film that is not about Blackness like The Summer Of Sam and Inside Man for example.
     
    Although Summer of Sam did have this scene, where a Black lady is glad that the eponymous killer is White:

    Hello.
    My name is Cassandra Buchanan.
    I live there at 85 Crown Street...
    ...and I am going to give you
    your darker perspective.
    The darker perspective is:
    ...I thank God, I thank God, I thank God...
    ...that it is a white man
    that kills all of those white people.
    Because if it were a black man...
    ...who kills all of those white people...
    ...there would be the biggest race riot...
    ...right here in New York City.

     

    Of course, this race-war prediction is quite absurd, as California had a whole series of Black-on-White serial killings in 1973-74 and Whites didn't go on a rampage:

    The "Zebra" murders were a string of racially motivated murders that took place in San Francisco, California, from October 1973 to April 1974. A group of male Black Muslims who called themselves the "Death Angels" committed at least 15 murders and 8 attempted murders, mostly against white victims. However, some authorities believe they may have killed as many as 73, or more, victims.[1][2]
    Criminology professor Anthony Walsh wrote that the "San Francisco–based Death Angels may have killed more people in the early to mid-1970s than all the other serial killers operating during that period combined."[3] Police named the case "Zebra" after the special police radio band they assigned for the investigation.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_murders

    At the time Summer of Sam came out, I had a conversation with a Jewish colleague about the movie because this guy was from NY and lived there at the time of the murders. I asked him, noting that the film was a thematic departure for Lee, why Lee would make a movie about the Son of Sam murders. The man didn’t even hesitate the think before replying: “Hates Jews”.

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    I haven't watched Summer of Sam all the way through but I never thought there was that much of an antiJew undercurrent to the parts I saw. Of course given Lee's background it should be no surprise that he has little love for "God's chosen people."

    Interesting fact: Michael Imperioli , Chris Moltisanti on the Sopranos, has a screenwriting credit for the movie together with Lee and others

    Lee did include this catchy disco tune by "Machine" in the Summer of Sam Soundtrack

    which includes the following lyrics:

    "Carlos and Carmen Vidal just had a child
    A lovely girl with a crooked smile
    Now they gotta split 'cause the Bronx ain't fit
    For a kid to grow up in
    Let's find a place they say, somewhere far away
    With no blacks, no Jews and no gays"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_lPHjn0Aqk
  150. @donut
    Yeah Sailer , these halfwits with their less than useless BA Degrees rush to your defense . I myself have made my way reluctantly by hard manual labor . I can tie a bowline and a clove hitch . I never feared the Ocean or death , in a storm I went out on the poop deck and mocked God and dared him to take my life . You as many of your commenters are nothing more than over educated comfortable white faggots . Besides your bunny and your income you have no other interests . Work for a living you gas bag .

    If you made your way by manual labor only reluctantly, you imply you would rather have not done so, yet you condemn any who earn their money by, say, writing, as Steve does. This position seems to contradict itself and suggests a certain bitter hypocrisy.

    Mind you, also, that many in this world walk neither the path of an overworked roustabout nor that of a pampered intellectual. A great many live lives alternating such experiences, and amny in between.

    I confess I myself currently dick around with a computer for money, but I have in the past mowed lawns; moved furniture; toiled in the kitchens of McDonald’s, Arby’s, Checker’s, Wendy’s, and Krystal; sold tchotchkes at the mall during Christmas, working for a petty and incompetent yet fabulously wealthy homosexual; painted buildings; hauled, cut, and installed sprinkler systems (that steel pipe is not light!); dug ditches; cleaned toilets; operated cash-registers; repaired and maintained avionics during twelve-hour shifts in a war zone; worked cutting plastic parts on assembly lines at factories where no other worker spoke English; patrolled parking decks overnight just across the street from a crime-infested housing project; Hell, I once spent three days scrubbing guano out of a hangar until I was covered in the stuff from head to toe – I had to throw away the coveralls I wore for the assignment.

    You know what? I’ll warrant I’ve lived a dull life of ease compared to half of the other people who read this blog and comment here.

    Get over yourself, dude. I think you’re sometimes funny and engaging, but I also suspect you might could use a sit-down with a good friend, a kindly priest, or a trusted counselor. Alternatively, maybe you just need a swift kick in the pants.

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  151. @Jefferson
    "Muslims Are the True Feminists"

    So can we put a burqa over the faces of all the feminists on ABC's The View for example? I think we can all agree that Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg should never show their hideous feminist faces in public again. I am all for putting them in a garbage bag.

    “Whoopi” and “Joy”, one would guess,
    Should delight and excite and impress.
    They do not; I push [MUTE].
    But I still see uncute;
    So a burkha’s appropriate dress.

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  152. There is a movie called Eden where a sex slave ring of Black, Brown, and Oriental girls is run by White male pimps led by Beau Bridges, Jeff Bridges brother.

    Think of Rotherham, except replace White girl sex slaves with Nonwhite girl sex slaves and replace Pakistani Muslim pimps with White pimps.

    Talk about pure Hollywood fantasy fiction.

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    The BBC has just been busy recently pimping its new drama Three Girls, based (in the loosest sense of the term) on the Rochdale , Rotherham (and other English rustbelt towns) grooming gangs.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3578290/viewers-horrified-and-disturbed-by-harrowing-bbc-rochdale-grooming-drama-three-girls/

    In a strange plot twist, one fairly crucial element has been altered. Can you guess what it is?

    All the abusers and conspirators are resoundingly English, and white.

    Antediluvian and wildly popular ITV soap Coronation Street is also running a sweaty and scary grooming story. And of course, the perp is a white Englishman.
    Had to be really, Corrie is a strange place, an entire Northern urban neighbourhood inhabited solely by monoglot white English working-class people. Like Albert Square in East Enders, another apartheid soap opera enclave.
  153. Hey iSteve, where are all the greedy lawyers? Doesn’t she have an estate that should be represented in its complaint about back wages, labor law violations, and who knows what else? Even if there are 0 people back in the Slave-o-peans, shouldn’t the gov, which gets here estate be suing. Fed gov is owed 15% of her min wage, or is that FICA a head tax on Americans?

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  154. @Daniel Chieh
    Thought I could add something vaguely unique here - there was a slave of sorts within the living history of my family. Those were dark days, and the choices were either to put up a doomed, but honorable stand against the commies, or flee in shame. Since we didn't want our line ended, we chose mostly to do the former, but had the youngest couple flee, aided by one of our peasants. That couple would become my grandparents in Taiwan.

    Since my grandparents were fairly enlightened, they didn't really know what to do with her - she was illiterate, basically worshipped our family, and had the mind of a child. She didn't want money, she didn't have any wants in life, it felt like; trying to give her money resulted in her stashing it away and buying things for my father. They couldn't even motivate her to get married, I think because she wanted to stay by us forever, but it wasn't like we could afford to setup a feudalistic multiple-family farm with a giant mansion anymore. So instead, she helped out around the house, bought food at the market, discovered Christianity and attended church religiously. She loved TV and cried at every sappy movie. I think even the 1950s was too advanced for her. Maybe if there was a rice paddy and arranged marriages...

    In the end, she joined some nuns in a convent and died at some age close to 90, having outlived almost everyone. I always felt sad for her, but she seemed somehow happy. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

    Maybe, in retrospect, she was with us because the last lords in my family thought that she couldn't survive alone in Mao's China. She wouldn't have, I'm pretty certain.

    Nothing against you personally, but I think we can assume she didn’t die in a nunnery in the US. Rather, her later years were taken care of by the Taiwanese social-welfare system/religious charities?

    My view on refugees had been based on that experience. That 4-5 millions Taiwanese had to deal with 2-3 millions 1949ers. As a result, pre-1949 Taiwanese became an oppressed majority in the land their ancestors conquered. The martial law, white terror, the evil so-called land reform, etc.

    Imagine how wonderful it would be if Taiwanese were in control of their borders, and can choose and reject all those refugees at will?

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    I'm sure if the CCP took over, life would have been much better for the Taiwanese. That was the only realistic alternative. Of the two evils, the KMT was the better of the two.

    At any rate, Taiwan is largely isolated nowadays and under the leadership of the neisheng ren, but given the miserable TFR of 0.9, high suicide rate and anemic economic growth, as well as ever expanding liberalism such as same-sex marriages and a childless female president, I'm not sure I'm so thrilled about the results of democracy versus dictatorship.

  155. @Steve Sailer
    A lot of the slavery in the USA stories you hear involve people with diplomatic cover.

    A lot of the slavery in the USA stories you hear involve people with diplomatic cover.

    Incredibly, in France as well:

    Slavery at the Consulate-General of Morocco in Orly.

    The Saudi embassy judged for the calamity of “modern slave” Jainab.

    (Sorry, in French)

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  156. This Alex Tizon piece is an example of a genre of PC humblebragging pioneered by the loathesome Belle Waring of Crooked Timber blog, who is always managing to work in ways of simultaneously boasting about her aristocratic South Carolina background while apologizing for being the descendant of slaveowners.

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    This Alex Tizon piece is an example of a genre of PC humblebragging
     
    Yes. My feeling was that Tizon felt he had likely exhausted the I-am-the-oppressed-other posture and so moved on to doing a bit of light confessing.
  157. @PiltdownMan
    There is ample evidence that the Muslim men in Britain responsible for numerous "child-grooming" serial rape outrages are from one specific group known as Mirpuris, from the Mirpur district in the region of Kashmir that is in Pakistan.

    The evidence includes scattered unguarded references in the mainstream outlets such as the BBC or the Guardian, but numerous references elsewhere, including articles by Mirpuri women and others who are willing to be direct.

    A Google search for "Mirpuri grooming" turns up many results that substantiate this.

    According to Wikipedia, about 60% of the reports of forced marriage in the UK can be traced to Mirpuri Muslims. Consanguineous marriage rates are at 55% and rising.

    Immigration tied to the need for cheap labor by industry is stated as the historical reason for Mirpuris migrating to the UK—a tale that should be familiar to those here on iSteve.


    The reasons for the large proportion of Mirpuris in the United Kingdom is historical. Mirpur was considered to be a conservative district in 1960s, and life in its rural villages, was dominated by rigid hierarchies. In the late 1950s and early 1960s, the Government of Pakistan planned the Mangla Dam, which was to be built in the Mirpur area. They asked several thousand locals to leave the land. At that time, the British needed man-power mainly for their textile factories. Up to 5,000 people from Mirpur (five per cent of the displaced) left for Britain, the displaced Mirpuris being given legal and financial assistance by the British contractor which had built the dam.Many started working in factories, mostly in the so-called "Black Country" and the area of Bradford, England. In some villages, more than half the village population moved to the United Kingdom to settle in the industrial towns. This rural, impoverished district provided cheap, unskilled labour for Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.
     

    Pakistanis were imported into Britain by the Labour Party to form a reliable voting bloc

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    Those Labour geniuses exported their model to the Democrat party in the US of A. The American version is new and improved with greater welfare benefits and growing bureaucracies to support the new pathologies and dysfunctions from the more recent arrivals. Talk about fundamental disregard for their own countries.

    What is the life-cycle cost of an immigrant, ranging from law enforcement through health care, education, job market, housing and other parts of life? Add in the parasitic media and academic fellow-travelers to whinge about new rights and to decry the evils of patriarchy and whiteness. Rational immigration laws preserve civilization, not just culture.
    , @Jefferson
    "Pakistanis were imported into Britain by the Labour Party to form a reliable voting bloc"

    There are rumors that The Royal Family in England are inbreds, which would explain why they have a soft spot in their hearts for inbred ethnic groups like Muslim Pakis. The inbreds have to stick together.

    So The Royal Family might have more in common with the average Paki than with the average Brit.

  158. @Jefferson
    "Blacks can’t be serial killers, just like they can’t be racists, by definition."

    Also Blacks can never be guilty of hate speech either, hence why they can still keep their jobs and not get fired even after openly advocating for White genocide.

    And watching any TV drama made in the English speaking world I can be pretty sure they never mug, rob, rape or murder anyone either.

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  159. @jesse helms think-alike
    I took the time to read the entire (long) article. Touching.
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon's behavoir.
    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    This kind of arrangement is not is not the first time this has occurred in the history of the world. In facts its common

    Every so often there are stories of Asian immigrants to America whose maids are held in near human bondage. Many sex workers in (US) Asian Massage Parlors are thought to be slaves. There have been many stories of wealthy Arabs who come to America with servants who are slaves in everything but name.

    VS Naipaul in his 1971 Booker prize winner 'In A free State" describes an Indian who is brought to DC as the servant of young Indian diplomat. He sleeps in the walk in closet of his master's apartment. He cooks cleans and does assorted tasks for his master unpaid. In fact he is told that he owes the cost of the plae ticket that brought him to America. When he runs away to be a cook in an Indian restaurant his master tracks him down shocked and hurt that he could be so heartless as to escape.

    It's not just third worlder's either.

    In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn't have to risk going to prostitutes.

    @109 jesse helms think-alike: “In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn’t have to risk going to prostitutes.”

    I lived with an Italian diplomatic family in DC while going to grad school. The arrangement was for room only, since they were concerned their live-in cook/housekeeper {who had helped care for the wife since she was a child} would resent my eating with the family and cause massive disruption. She was not a slave in any sense, though, and had married and had her own family {I recall meeting one of her grown daughters, living in America but with a strong Italian accent}. There weren’t any problems because I went out of my way to charm the woman, who spoke no English and, by the family’s account, no standard Italian either – only a dialect they seemed to regard as equivalent to ebonics. Again, this woman was no slave, was paid, and there was no sexual component {at the very least due to the age difference}, but there was definitely a life-long devotion to and protectiveness of the family.

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  160. @KenH
    I'll bet sweet Lola lives on federal assistance and votes Democrat. I'll bet she also sent for dozens of her other family members so they, too, could live at the expense of the white taxpaying slaves while voting against them.

    I’ll bet you didn’t read the article.

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  161. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines–whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author’s mother) is up for debate. One thing I’m pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn’t have lived to be 87 there.

    Anonymous, i’m pegging you as unmarried and childless.

    First off we don’t know what sort person Lola would have married back in the Philippines. She might have married some old guy she despised, or some old guy she came to very much love. Or maybe some younger guy she very much had the hots for … but came to despise, or became her lifelong soulmate. People have been in happy and unhappy marriages forever.

    And being married to a pig farmer–nothing wrong with that. (I like ham and love bacon!) People have been scratching a living from the land since the neolithic revolution 10,000 years ago. It’s what most people in the world did, until this past century. It’s not some sort of hell, it’s human life.

    The key point is Lola would have had a husband and children–i.e. a real human life, connected both to the past and to the future.

    I love all the modern conveniences and toys–indoor plumbing, microwave ovens, Costco, iSteve. But if you’re giving me a choice of all that, but without having my own family, my kids and living like my grand parents did as kids–outhouse, water from the well, days spent ploughing at the business end of a horse–no contest. One of those is no life at all. And that’s what Lola had. Her life with all its possibilities good and bad stolen to serve some creeps.

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  162. Not a one of you has an answer let alone any wit , just toss pots sucking up to Steve . I have labored all my life with my calloused hands by the sweat of my brow . If I had known that one could make a living by being a blowhard I would have signed up long ago . But then I would have no respect for myself , but you all abandoned any idea of self respect for a cheeseburger and an extension on your credit . Line up bitches .

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  163. @1661er
    Nothing against you personally, but I think we can assume she didn't die in a nunnery in the US. Rather, her later years were taken care of by the Taiwanese social-welfare system/religious charities?

    My view on refugees had been based on that experience. That 4-5 millions Taiwanese had to deal with 2-3 millions 1949ers. As a result, pre-1949 Taiwanese became an oppressed majority in the land their ancestors conquered. The martial law, white terror, the evil so-called land reform, etc.

    Imagine how wonderful it would be if Taiwanese were in control of their borders, and can choose and reject all those refugees at will?

    I’m sure if the CCP took over, life would have been much better for the Taiwanese. That was the only realistic alternative. Of the two evils, the KMT was the better of the two.

    At any rate, Taiwan is largely isolated nowadays and under the leadership of the neisheng ren, but given the miserable TFR of 0.9, high suicide rate and anemic economic growth, as well as ever expanding liberalism such as same-sex marriages and a childless female president, I’m not sure I’m so thrilled about the results of democracy versus dictatorship.

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    So my assumption was correct, that your family's Obaa-san was taken care by Taiwanese social-welfare/religious charities? And since your family didn't pay her cash, I doubt she paid taxes during her "working years."

    I’m sure if the CCP took over, life would have been much better for the Taiwanese. That was the only realistic alternative. Of the two evils, the KMT was the better of the two.
     
    That's the 1949ers'' party line. Not a given. And it confused the cause/effect. CCP was only interested in Taiwan for the 49er/KMT being harbored there, in the same way that Manchu was only interested due to presence of Ming/Zhu loyalists.

    Japan is having a TFR of 1.4. So if Taiwanese stayed with Japanese, the Treaty of San Francisco of 1952 came after 1949, then it's likely Taiwan could had been better of with the Japanese TFR of 1.4 instead of current 1.2 after the mis-rule by KMT.

    After all, Taiwan still have higher level of TFR compares to Macau under Chinese dictatorship rule.
  164. @jesse helms think-alike
    I took the time to read the entire (long) article. Touching.
    Surprisingly the comments at the Atlantic and elsewhere are critical of Tizon's behavoir.
    One funny one takes him to task for questioning his elderly slave about her sex life. Oh the patriarchy!

    This kind of arrangement is not is not the first time this has occurred in the history of the world. In facts its common

    Every so often there are stories of Asian immigrants to America whose maids are held in near human bondage. Many sex workers in (US) Asian Massage Parlors are thought to be slaves. There have been many stories of wealthy Arabs who come to America with servants who are slaves in everything but name.

    VS Naipaul in his 1971 Booker prize winner 'In A free State" describes an Indian who is brought to DC as the servant of young Indian diplomat. He sleeps in the walk in closet of his master's apartment. He cooks cleans and does assorted tasks for his master unpaid. In fact he is told that he owes the cost of the plae ticket that brought him to America. When he runs away to be a cook in an Indian restaurant his master tracks him down shocked and hurt that he could be so heartless as to escape.

    It's not just third worlder's either.

    In 19th Century and early 20th century Europe there was a custom wherein a wealthy family would take in a peasant girl to do light housework. By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn't have to risk going to prostitutes.

    By custom the girl would also be sexually available to the young men of the family so that they wouldn’t have to risk going to prostitutes.

    This was customary? As in, a recognized practice, considered perfectly normal, and with a foreknown pattern? I have to ask about your sources for this claim. Most people have never heard of this practice, which almost certainly would have had consequences that were noticeable and negative. Frankly, it sounds rather ridiculous, although I suppose anything is possible.

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  165. @Daniel Chieh
    I noted that the mothers of such families often seem to be quite accomplished, seemingly freed from the duties of housework and childcare.

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don't have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!

    That’s the most interesting thing going unmentioned here: this two professional family with three children is producing so much housework that their slave is routinely falling asleep folding laundry late at night. Even assuming that if you aren’t paying for labor you’re going to have housework done to a higher standard (if I could get my baseboards washed weekly for free I would), that’s still a monumental amount of labor. And having wound up folding laundry at one in the morning more times than I can count, I’d believe it. And nobody is saying, “Wait, maybe there’s a problem with the two career model?”

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    I wonder if she'd have more time if she could drive to the store to buy things instead of being dependent on others or on walking to the store and back.
  166. @Daniel Chieh
    I noted that the mothers of such families often seem to be quite accomplished, seemingly freed from the duties of housework and childcare.

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don't have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don’t have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!

    I don’t think so. More that public schools were held to provide a superior education. There were no ‘good’ state schools. And remember that girls mostly stayed at home.

    N.B. Tizon – who flaunted a Filipino heritage when it suited him – likely knew that institutions akin to slavery were, indeed almost certainly are, quite common in the Philippines.

    I stayed with a family of land owners in Luzon in the 1980s where I was introduced to at least two youths who were “helping out” because their parents owed money. They were treated “as family” i.e. they got no pay. It was clear they had been there for years.

    The Filipino elites clearly do not give a toss about the great swathe of the population that works abroad as essentially bonded labour very often completely at the mercy of their temporary owners.

    One women’s rights worker in Manila told me that it was almost par for the course for a nubile girl to return from the Gulf abused, sometimes broken, sometimes pregnant.

    I remember being given a tour of Nicosia’s nightclubs on a stopover a decade ago to hear in every joint Filipinas complaining that their passports had been taken to make sure that they worked their “debt” off.

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  167. @FredS
    My long dead great great grandfather helped free the slaves in the US back 1861-65. The left has been erasing that part of history in parellel with the ongoing CSA monument removal program. (Unless the NAACP or SPLC needs a cash infusion from donors) If you erase the collective memory the only thing left is what the educational left teaches the next generation.

    True. The Left is anti-Confederacy but they also want to remove the Union from history as well. Black slavery ended because whites ended it. The blacks didn’t liberate themselves. The same goes for everything having to do with civil rights. We can deify MLK, etc, but Jim Crow ended because white people and white society ended it. Whites desegregated schools (very much against the wishes of other whites). Blacks got the right to vote when whites decided that they could. Leftists can be all butt hurt about micro-aggressions against people of color but I think that a big part of the problem is the insecurity on the part of blacks and SJW’s that blacks had very little to do with ending slavery or achieving anything in their civil rights “struggle.” White people did it for them. The Civil War, 13th Amendment, Reconstruction, desegregation, etc. were all battles (some literal and some figurative) between groups of white people.

    There is really no great myth to inspire. It’s not like the Exodus. God didn’t free the blacks from slavery. There was no black Spartacus. We rightly deride the “We wuz kangs” delusion. Of course, they weren’t kings but even if they were that was in the very distant past. In America, they were slaves owned by white men, not kings.

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  168. @anonymous-antiskynetist
    This Alex Tizon piece is an example of a genre of PC humblebragging pioneered by the loathesome Belle Waring of Crooked Timber blog, who is always managing to work in ways of simultaneously boasting about her aristocratic South Carolina background while apologizing for being the descendant of slaveowners.

    This Alex Tizon piece is an example of a genre of PC humblebragging

    Yes. My feeling was that Tizon felt he had likely exhausted the I-am-the-oppressed-other posture and so moved on to doing a bit of light confessing.

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  169. @jesse helms think-alike

    What happened when the peasant girl got pregnant?
     
    then she became Adolf's grandmother

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/was-hitler-jewish

    But the reason we call him Hitler instead of Schicklgruber is that Hitler’s father was eventually claimed by his white grandfather. Why would that guy have done so if the actual grandfather was some rich Jew?

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  170. @Daniel Chieh
    I noted that the mothers of such families often seem to be quite accomplished, seemingly freed from the duties of housework and childcare.

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don't have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!

    Daniel Chieh,

    I believe one of the reasons for upper class English shipping their male progeny to boarding schools was to toughen them up to the rigors of running the far flung British Empire. Having the boys at home with other distractions would detract from that end.

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    I think that Orwell's "Such, Such Were the Joys" had an unusually heavy impression on me.
  171. “His fierce and funny observations of sex and the Asian American male include his own quest for love during college in the 1980s, a tortured tutorial on stereotypes that still make it hard for Asian men to get the girl. Tizon writes: “I had to educate myself on my own worth. It was a sloppy, piecemeal education, but I had to do it because no one else was going to do it for me.””

    Sounds exactly like what I had to do, in spite of my White Privilege.

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  172. @Dan Hayes
    Daniel Chieh,

    I believe one of the reasons for upper class English shipping their male progeny to boarding schools was to toughen them up to the rigors of running the far flung British Empire. Having the boys at home with other distractions would detract from that end.

    I think that Orwell’s “Such, Such Were the Joys” had an unusually heavy impression on me.

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  173. @Daniel Chieh
    I'm sure if the CCP took over, life would have been much better for the Taiwanese. That was the only realistic alternative. Of the two evils, the KMT was the better of the two.

    At any rate, Taiwan is largely isolated nowadays and under the leadership of the neisheng ren, but given the miserable TFR of 0.9, high suicide rate and anemic economic growth, as well as ever expanding liberalism such as same-sex marriages and a childless female president, I'm not sure I'm so thrilled about the results of democracy versus dictatorship.

    So my assumption was correct, that your family’s Obaa-san was taken care by Taiwanese social-welfare/religious charities? And since your family didn’t pay her cash, I doubt she paid taxes during her “working years.”

    I’m sure if the CCP took over, life would have been much better for the Taiwanese. That was the only realistic alternative. Of the two evils, the KMT was the better of the two.

    That’s the 1949ers” party line. Not a given. And it confused the cause/effect. CCP was only interested in Taiwan for the 49er/KMT being harbored there, in the same way that Manchu was only interested due to presence of Ming/Zhu loyalists.

    Japan is having a TFR of 1.4. So if Taiwanese stayed with Japanese, the Treaty of San Francisco of 1952 came after 1949, then it’s likely Taiwan could had been better of with the Japanese TFR of 1.4 instead of current 1.2 after the mis-rule by KMT.

    After all, Taiwan still have higher level of TFR compares to Macau under Chinese dictatorship rule.

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    I don't know the details of her care. Possibly religious charities were involved, and as I mentioned, she refused money.

    And you missed an obvious thing in your logic there. The CCP would be interested because the Japanese loyalists would be there, which the Party was no more fond of than the KMT. For economical reasons as well, it would be the sensible action for the CCP to conquer the island, which they certainly tried.

    At any rate, the fact that anyone would actually choose to be ruled by the Empire of the Rising Sun after the atrocities they committed against the Chinese is, well, shall we say, very patriotic.

  174. @jim jones
    Pakistanis were imported into Britain by the Labour Party to form a reliable voting bloc

    Those Labour geniuses exported their model to the Democrat party in the US of A. The American version is new and improved with greater welfare benefits and growing bureaucracies to support the new pathologies and dysfunctions from the more recent arrivals. Talk about fundamental disregard for their own countries.

    What is the life-cycle cost of an immigrant, ranging from law enforcement through health care, education, job market, housing and other parts of life? Add in the parasitic media and academic fellow-travelers to whinge about new rights and to decry the evils of patriarchy and whiteness. Rational immigration laws preserve civilization, not just culture.

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  175. Slavery is still common in America a hundred and fifty year after the Emancipation Proclamation. Some claim there are more slaves now then there were in the antebellum South. But there are differences.

    Back then the whites were the masters and the blacks were the slaves whereas today the blacks are most often the masters and the whites are the slaves. This is literally true – it’s not some clever sophistry based on unusual definitions.

    In the early nineteenth century black male slaves were the backbone of the cotton industry and whites owned the majority of the plantations. But we have John Deere tractors or Mahindras today. A top field hand is worth nothing anymore. John Rust’s cotton spindle killed the market for field hands and the tractor and other machines buried any chance of its resurrection.

    Today the most common type of slavery is sex slavery. Most of the most valuable prostitutes are white and most of the pimps are black. You can see this pattern in any large American city.

    Currently the hottest sector of the robotics market is in sex models. Maybe history will replicate the early twentieth century experience and machines will again kill off slavery.

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    Racist!

    It's their culture and it would be "cultural aggression" if we insisted they conform to white notions of ethics and fair treatment of women!
  176. @1661er
    So my assumption was correct, that your family's Obaa-san was taken care by Taiwanese social-welfare/religious charities? And since your family didn't pay her cash, I doubt she paid taxes during her "working years."

    I’m sure if the CCP took over, life would have been much better for the Taiwanese. That was the only realistic alternative. Of the two evils, the KMT was the better of the two.
     
    That's the 1949ers'' party line. Not a given. And it confused the cause/effect. CCP was only interested in Taiwan for the 49er/KMT being harbored there, in the same way that Manchu was only interested due to presence of Ming/Zhu loyalists.

    Japan is having a TFR of 1.4. So if Taiwanese stayed with Japanese, the Treaty of San Francisco of 1952 came after 1949, then it's likely Taiwan could had been better of with the Japanese TFR of 1.4 instead of current 1.2 after the mis-rule by KMT.

    After all, Taiwan still have higher level of TFR compares to Macau under Chinese dictatorship rule.

    I don’t know the details of her care. Possibly religious charities were involved, and as I mentioned, she refused money.

    And you missed an obvious thing in your logic there. The CCP would be interested because the Japanese loyalists would be there, which the Party was no more fond of than the KMT. For economical reasons as well, it would be the sensible action for the CCP to conquer the island, which they certainly tried.

    At any rate, the fact that anyone would actually choose to be ruled by the Empire of the Rising Sun after the atrocities they committed against the Chinese is, well, shall we say, very patriotic.

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    I don’t know the details of her care. Possibly religious charities were involved, and as I mentioned, she refused money.
     
    Again, not to attack your family personally. My original assumption was due to many other similar case where Taiwanese are the one who were being stick with the cost without receiving benefits in return. 1949ers like to present them being refugees in Taiwan were to the benefits of pre-1949 population. However, the situation you described, which is not uncommon, showed that pre-1949 Taiwanese were the kind and generous one.

    Other people who read this discussion can judge for themselves that if Taiwanese complaints about 1949er refugees being ungrateful are valid.


    At any rate, the fact that anyone would actually choose to be ruled by the Empire of the Rising Sun after the atrocities they committed against the Chinese is, well, shall we say, very patriotic.
     
    Does your wife's French Canadian family feel patriotic about France after the Treaty of Paris(1763)? At least that treaty merely acknowledge the fact on the ground after 1759. Chinese outright betrayed Taiwanese by the Treaty of Shimonoseki. Why should Taiwanese feel bad about Japanese atrocities against the Chinese after Chinese betrayed them?
  177. @Jefferson
    Lola is Pinay? According to Barry Manilow, Lola was a showgirl from Copacabana. Last time I checked there aren't any Filipina chicks in Copacabana.
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  178. @Pat Boyle
    Slavery is still common in America a hundred and fifty year after the Emancipation Proclamation. Some claim there are more slaves now then there were in the antebellum South. But there are differences.

    Back then the whites were the masters and the blacks were the slaves whereas today the blacks are most often the masters and the whites are the slaves. This is literally true - it's not some clever sophistry based on unusual definitions.

    In the early nineteenth century black male slaves were the backbone of the cotton industry and whites owned the majority of the plantations. But we have John Deere tractors or Mahindras today. A top field hand is worth nothing anymore. John Rust's cotton spindle killed the market for field hands and the tractor and other machines buried any chance of its resurrection.

    Today the most common type of slavery is sex slavery. Most of the most valuable prostitutes are white and most of the pimps are black. You can see this pattern in any large American city.

    Currently the hottest sector of the robotics market is in sex models. Maybe history will replicate the early twentieth century experience and machines will again kill off slavery.

    Racist!

    It’s their culture and it would be “cultural aggression” if we insisted they conform to white notions of ethics and fair treatment of women!

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  179. @Daniel Chieh
    I noted that the mothers of such families often seem to be quite accomplished, seemingly freed from the duties of housework and childcare.

    Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing, so even if they don't have handmaids, shipping kids out to boarding school as soon as possible did seem to be quite the program!

    @150 Daniel Chieh: “Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing . . . ”

    Quite the cultural imperialist here, aren’t we. Perhaps “not wanting to take care of children” seems to be a wealthy global thing. Shall I regale you with tales of Singapore mothers whose newborns spent days on end in the nursery, being wheeled out once a day to be shown to visitors? How about the wealthy Thais we knew who left their youngest at the hospital for at least 3 months after birth because the mother said she needed some rest, and besides they took excellent care of her. Or for the most current example, all the FOB Chinese here in Texas who import their parents {who they diligently ensure get Suppemental Social Security although they never paid in a penny nor lived or worked in America} to care for their children while they bilk the White man out of his country.

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    Actually, I agree 100% and should amend what I wrote. It seems to be a wealthy thing, period. The reason why I mentioned the English was that it was doing a time when women were not expected to work, but despite the Victorian "cult of motherhood", in practice, it didn't seem to materialize with the wealthier classes. In particular, I recalled from Gormenghast and the conveyed sheer and overwhelming indifference of Countess Gertrude for her infant son. This surely varied from person to person, but there seemed to be an oddly "low status" to be concerned overmuch with the daily care of one's child.

    But yes, there does seem to be a consistent connection to most cultures, even historically, of high status women doing very little with the raising of their children.

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    But, I am told, he hadn’t bothered to mention his family’s slaveowning in his 2014 memoirs.

    Even so, I think he should be lauded for writing this at all before his death.

    It shows some degree of conscience…. which is sorely lacking from other POC who ONLY BLAME WHITES.
    What sickens me most is Latin American whites posing as POC. Few things are more lowdown. I know why they do it. They are scared as hell of the masses of non-whites in Latin America. What if those ‘darkies’ rise up against Latin whites? So, how convenient for Latin whites to pose as POC, brothers and sisters of the ‘darkies’, and blame the Gringo for all the ‘racismo’.
    The other reason is just inferiority complex. Since Anglos achieved much more, the Latin white justification for failure is, “We meant to do that.” In other words, Latin Whites decided to be less successful and ‘greedy’ just to be closer to the ‘darky’ masses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urnRVr1P2bc

    On the matter of dating girls, I think his bitching is legit in this sense: American Dream of Equality is a Big Lie. Race does matter. Maybe he didn’t connect all the dots, but he is to be lauded for realizing there is more to America than Equality. Indeed, diversity = inequality.

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    On the matter of dating girls, I think his bitching is legit in this sense: American Dream of Equality is a Big Lie. Race does matter. Maybe he didn’t connect all the dots, but he is to be lauded for realizing there is more to America than Equality.
     
    Equality means equal rights under the law, and (perhaps less convincingly) equal opportunity in the economy. It never meant equal success in the sexual market. And it's not a racial thing: within every racial group, there are sexual market winners and losers. I had an Filipino roommate in college who got lots of girls, nearly all of them white.

    Your comment reminds me of the silliest part of the otherwise solid movie about the battle of Stalingrad, Enemy At The Gates: when the commissar loses his faith in communism because the girl he was crushing on had the hots for the sniper. Jude Law's getting the girl in any economic system.
    , @Jefferson
    "What sickens me most is Latin American whites posing as POC."

    Using the one drop rule of any drop of African and or Amerindian DNA automatically makes you Nonwhite, the average "White" Latin American can easily claim POC status.

    Genetic studies show that even the average Argentinian is not pure White and Argentina is the "Whitest" country in Latin America.

    So when even when Argentina can not claim White racial purity, there is no hope for the rest of Latin America.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3142769/

    The average Argentinian is genetically 20%-21% Nonwhite in her or his DNA.

    20%-21% Nonwhite DNA is plenty enough to claim POC status for affirmative action purposes.
  181. @Malcolm X-Lax
    At the time Summer of Sam came out, I had a conversation with a Jewish colleague about the movie because this guy was from NY and lived there at the time of the murders. I asked him, noting that the film was a thematic departure for Lee, why Lee would make a movie about the Son of Sam murders. The man didn't even hesitate the think before replying: "Hates Jews".

    I haven’t watched Summer of Sam all the way through but I never thought there was that much of an antiJew undercurrent to the parts I saw. Of course given Lee’s background it should be no surprise that he has little love for “God’s chosen people.”

    Interesting fact: Michael Imperioli , Chris Moltisanti on the Sopranos, has a screenwriting credit for the movie together with Lee and others

    Lee did include this catchy disco tune by “Machine” in the Summer of Sam Soundtrack

    which includes the following lyrics:

    “Carlos and Carmen Vidal just had a child
    A lovely girl with a crooked smile
    Now they gotta split ’cause the Bronx ain’t fit
    For a kid to grow up in
    Let’s find a place they say, somewhere far away
    With no blacks, no Jews and no gays”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_lPHjn0Aqk

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    I had always assumed his point was that Lee liked the idea of reminding people about a Jewish serial killer. It's not one of Lee's better movies.
  182. @Neoconned
    People think I'm joking or fucking around when I say that Whiskey is frighteningly correct.....

    "Women like Islam because they don't have to worry about bodyshaming."

    I'm a working class white male thug. Although in my mid 30s -- I dunno how much longer I'll have the physical cajones to keep it up. What? 15 years maybe?

    this country is done. We should come up with a plan to split it up into multiple ethnic states -- and then do a Soviet or Czechoslovak type peaceful dissolution -- before the whole thing goes up in smoke and flames.

    Agreed–that’s why I support CalExit. Even a losing vote in which, say 45% of Californians voted to leave the Union might be a wake-up call that there is something seriously wrong with the USA.

    When I first read Whiskey, I thought he was at least exagerating. But the more I test his hypothesis against the evidence of my own eyes and ears, the more correct I find him.

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  183. @Lot

    Gabby Aossey is a twenty-three year old writer. She was born in Iowa City, Iowa but raised on the beach in Carlsbad, California.
     
    Where I have seen that last name before?

    Feb 25, 2016 at 6:31 pm | Print View

    CEDAR RAPIDS — A federal judge went below guideline sentencing Thursday, giving Midamar Founder William Aossey, Jr., only two out of a possible nine years in federal prison for organizing a fraud to pass off halal meat to Malaysia that otherwise couldn’t have been shipped based on slaughtering methods.

    Last year, corporate officers for Midamar and ISA, Jalel and Yahya Aossey, William’s sons, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to make and use materially false statements and documents, sell misbranded meat, and commit wire fraud.

    As part of the plea agreement, Midamar must follow a USDA consent decree that included restructuring debt and management for Midamar and the company will be under USDA oversight for five years. Jalel Aossey was required to give up a management role in both companies and Yahya Aossey is now in charge of both.

    ISA will be required to provide financial information to probation if needed, can’t open lines of credit without probation approval, as well as other conditions.

    Midamar was fined $20,000 and ISA will pay $60,000. Testimony during the separate sentencings showed Midamar is strapped for cash and was dependent on ISA, which is profitable. Reade ordered lesser fines than what prosecutors recommended because the companies had to pay $600,000 jointly in forfeitures.

    Aossey was also ordered to pay a $60,000 fine, a forfeiture of over $184,000, and $16,824, which is the cost of prosecution.

    Jalel and Yahya Aossey will be sentenced on March 11 for their part in the export fraud
     

    Now it is of course possible that Gabby Aossey, Muslim from Iowa City (suburb of Cedar Rapids) is not part of the fake-halal-meat Aossey Muslim crime family recently busted in Cedar Rapids. So let's not speculate.

    This sounds like a violation of the Establishment Clause. There is no difference between ‘ordinary’ meat or ‘halal’ meat. Claiming fraud must mean the USDA accepts that there is. This is at worst a civil case.

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  184. He would not even allow her earthly remains to settle in the Magic Dirt she had come to love.

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  185. @Daniel Chieh
    I don't know the details of her care. Possibly religious charities were involved, and as I mentioned, she refused money.

    And you missed an obvious thing in your logic there. The CCP would be interested because the Japanese loyalists would be there, which the Party was no more fond of than the KMT. For economical reasons as well, it would be the sensible action for the CCP to conquer the island, which they certainly tried.

    At any rate, the fact that anyone would actually choose to be ruled by the Empire of the Rising Sun after the atrocities they committed against the Chinese is, well, shall we say, very patriotic.

    I don’t know the details of her care. Possibly religious charities were involved, and as I mentioned, she refused money.

    Again, not to attack your family personally. My original assumption was due to many other similar case where Taiwanese are the one who were being stick with the cost without receiving benefits in return. 1949ers like to present them being refugees in Taiwan were to the benefits of pre-1949 population. However, the situation you described, which is not uncommon, showed that pre-1949 Taiwanese were the kind and generous one.

    Other people who read this discussion can judge for themselves that if Taiwanese complaints about 1949er refugees being ungrateful are valid.

    At any rate, the fact that anyone would actually choose to be ruled by the Empire of the Rising Sun after the atrocities they committed against the Chinese is, well, shall we say, very patriotic.

    Does your wife’s French Canadian family feel patriotic about France after the Treaty of Paris(1763)? At least that treaty merely acknowledge the fact on the ground after 1759. Chinese outright betrayed Taiwanese by the Treaty of Shimonoseki. Why should Taiwanese feel bad about Japanese atrocities against the Chinese after Chinese betrayed them?

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    Does your wife’s French Canadian family feel patriotic about France after the Treaty of Paris(1763)?
     
    Actually, yes. The French speaking members of her family do.

    At least that treaty merely acknowledge the fact on the ground after 1759. Chinese outright betrayed Taiwanese by the Treaty of Shimonoseki.

     

    So, because Qing Dynasty was forced under severe duress to cede a part of China, this was a betrayal? I mean, it was pretty obvious around that time that China was ceding land everywhere, and it was realistic to expect that once she had the power, to try to recover what was lost.

    At the end of the day, despite the fact that admittedly, the Japanese treated the Taiwanese natives very well and certainly seemed to integrate the population, the Taiwanese people are still Chinese people and had far more in common culturally with the KMT than the Japanese. It might have been different if the Japanese had been left to rule another forty or fifty years, but I think that would have been tragic.

    I don't have anything against Taiwanese self-rule, or even against the Japanese empire had they not gone kill-crazy(I think the idea of the Co-Prosperity Sphere was not terrible), but I still think it is best that Taiwan did not remain a colony of Japan.

  186. @Bill
    Yes, and it will start with the elites. When? Who knows? It's already amazing how long Europe has drifted along without a real faith.

    To a great extent SJW-ism has substituted for Christianity – just look at environmentalists with their tales of an unspoiled Eden ruined by fallen Man, or radical feminists with their legends of an elder matriarchy (which may even have existed in our hunter-gatherer days ten millennia back).

    But as the contradictions grow, and the Muslim population and influence grows, then I can see the trickle of converts become a flood.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1243624/Revealed-The-Muslim-toyboy-whos-secretly-married-Boriss-ex-wife.html

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    • Replies: @Bill

    To a great extent SJW-ism has substituted for Christianity
     
    Agree. But it's not a real faith. It's obvious silliness. As the famous Chesterton paraphrase goes "A man who won’t believe in God will believe in anything." But, believing in anything eventually means believing that driving off a cliff is healthy and natural. So, just as you and reiner Tor say, a real faith will come along and take the steering wheel.
  187. @Marina
    That's the most interesting thing going unmentioned here: this two professional family with three children is producing so much housework that their slave is routinely falling asleep folding laundry late at night. Even assuming that if you aren't paying for labor you're going to have housework done to a higher standard (if I could get my baseboards washed weekly for free I would), that's still a monumental amount of labor. And having wound up folding laundry at one in the morning more times than I can count, I'd believe it. And nobody is saying, "Wait, maybe there's a problem with the two career model?"

    I wonder if she’d have more time if she could drive to the store to buy things instead of being dependent on others or on walking to the store and back.

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  188. @1661er

    I don’t know the details of her care. Possibly religious charities were involved, and as I mentioned, she refused money.
     
    Again, not to attack your family personally. My original assumption was due to many other similar case where Taiwanese are the one who were being stick with the cost without receiving benefits in return. 1949ers like to present them being refugees in Taiwan were to the benefits of pre-1949 population. However, the situation you described, which is not uncommon, showed that pre-1949 Taiwanese were the kind and generous one.

    Other people who read this discussion can judge for themselves that if Taiwanese complaints about 1949er refugees being ungrateful are valid.


    At any rate, the fact that anyone would actually choose to be ruled by the Empire of the Rising Sun after the atrocities they committed against the Chinese is, well, shall we say, very patriotic.
     
    Does your wife's French Canadian family feel patriotic about France after the Treaty of Paris(1763)? At least that treaty merely acknowledge the fact on the ground after 1759. Chinese outright betrayed Taiwanese by the Treaty of Shimonoseki. Why should Taiwanese feel bad about Japanese atrocities against the Chinese after Chinese betrayed them?

    Does your wife’s French Canadian family feel patriotic about France after the Treaty of Paris(1763)?

    Actually, yes. The French speaking members of her family do.

    At least that treaty merely acknowledge the fact on the ground after 1759. Chinese outright betrayed Taiwanese by the Treaty of Shimonoseki.

    So, because Qing Dynasty was forced under severe duress to cede a part of China, this was a betrayal? I mean, it was pretty obvious around that time that China was ceding land everywhere, and it was realistic to expect that once she had the power, to try to recover what was lost.

    At the end of the day, despite the fact that admittedly, the Japanese treated the Taiwanese natives very well and certainly seemed to integrate the population, the Taiwanese people are still Chinese people and had far more in common culturally with the KMT than the Japanese. It might have been different if the Japanese had been left to rule another forty or fifty years, but I think that would have been tragic.

    I don’t have anything against Taiwanese self-rule, or even against the Japanese empire had they not gone kill-crazy(I think the idea of the Co-Prosperity Sphere was not terrible), but I still think it is best that Taiwan did not remain a colony of Japan.

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  189. @3g4me
    @150 Daniel Chieh: "Not wanting to take care of children seems to be a common English thing . . . "

    Quite the cultural imperialist here, aren't we. Perhaps "not wanting to take care of children" seems to be a wealthy global thing. Shall I regale you with tales of Singapore mothers whose newborns spent days on end in the nursery, being wheeled out once a day to be shown to visitors? How about the wealthy Thais we knew who left their youngest at the hospital for at least 3 months after birth because the mother said she needed some rest, and besides they took excellent care of her. Or for the most current example, all the FOB Chinese here in Texas who import their parents {who they diligently ensure get Suppemental Social Security although they never paid in a penny nor lived or worked in America} to care for their children while they bilk the White man out of his country.

    Actually, I agree 100% and should amend what I wrote. It seems to be a wealthy thing, period. The reason why I mentioned the English was that it was doing a time when women were not expected to work, but despite the Victorian “cult of motherhood”, in practice, it didn’t seem to materialize with the wealthier classes. In particular, I recalled from Gormenghast and the conveyed sheer and overwhelming indifference of Countess Gertrude for her infant son. This surely varied from person to person, but there seemed to be an oddly “low status” to be concerned overmuch with the daily care of one’s child.

    But yes, there does seem to be a consistent connection to most cultures, even historically, of high status women doing very little with the raising of their children.

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    • Replies: @Marina
    I think that right now in the US there's a certain status to the opposite: going for labor intensive motherhood, even when it makes no sense. I delivered two babies at NYU hospital, which caters to the relatively well off in NYC. My first was severely underweight at term and I was high as a kite after a c section and they wanted me to keep her in my room and care for her despite this, which I found terrifying, because I was so drugged, and so exhausted that it felt dangerous.* I couldn't get the nurses to take her to the nursery until I became so tired I was incoherent. With my second, I lost a liter of blood during delivery, went into shock during recovery, nearly died and flatly refused to have the baby in the room until I could, say, feed myself without assistance. The nurses complied, but the message was clear that if I was a decent mother I'd be somehow caring for him and breastfeeding despite this. There's a fair amount of mummy snobbery in my set about stuff like DIY baby food and breastfeeding, which are clearly status symbols.

    *Turns out I wasn't nuts. Newborns have died at Baby Friendly (a UN designation for "militantly pro breastfeeding") Hospitals in Europe have died after their exhausted, often drugged, hours post-partum mothers accidentally dropped or smothered them in the maternity ward.
    , @Anonymous

    doing a time when women were not expected to work
     
    Wealthy women weren't. I don't have a single ancestor who didn't work.

    Sorry, not really directly related to your discussion here, just the reason all the controversies over working vs stay-at-home mothers and childcare in general always sound so foreign to me, I guess.
  190. @Anon
    But, I am told, he hadn’t bothered to mention his family’s slaveowning in his 2014 memoirs.

    Even so, I think he should be lauded for writing this at all before his death.

    It shows some degree of conscience.... which is sorely lacking from other POC who ONLY BLAME WHITES.
    What sickens me most is Latin American whites posing as POC. Few things are more lowdown. I know why they do it. They are scared as hell of the masses of non-whites in Latin America. What if those 'darkies' rise up against Latin whites? So, how convenient for Latin whites to pose as POC, brothers and sisters of the 'darkies', and blame the Gringo for all the 'racismo'.
    The other reason is just inferiority complex. Since Anglos achieved much more, the Latin white justification for failure is, "We meant to do that." In other words, Latin Whites decided to be less successful and 'greedy' just to be closer to the 'darky' masses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urnRVr1P2bc

    On the matter of dating girls, I think his bitching is legit in this sense: American Dream of Equality is a Big Lie. Race does matter. Maybe he didn't connect all the dots, but he is to be lauded for realizing there is more to America than Equality. Indeed, diversity = inequality.

    On the matter of dating girls, I think his bitching is legit in this sense: American Dream of Equality is a Big Lie. Race does matter. Maybe he didn’t connect all the dots, but he is to be lauded for realizing there is more to America than Equality.

    Equality means equal rights under the law, and (perhaps less convincingly) equal opportunity in the economy. It never meant equal success in the sexual market. And it’s not a racial thing: within every racial group, there are sexual market winners and losers. I had an Filipino roommate in college who got lots of girls, nearly all of them white.

    Your comment reminds me of the silliest part of the otherwise solid movie about the battle of Stalingrad, Enemy At The Gates: when the commissar loses his faith in communism because the girl he was crushing on had the hots for the sniper. Jude Law’s getting the girl in any economic system.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    It's all relative.

    Given that most POC attitude is dindu-nuffin-too, it took some courage for Tizon to admit to something dark in his own culture and family.

    I mean we are living in a time when some Jewish guy in Israel makes all these bogus threats and ADL counts it as 'antisemitism'.

    Or we get stuff like GET OUT.

    So, any reflection on part of POC is welcome.

    In fact, Alt Right should assemble BLACK BOOK for every people.

    It'd be like the Black Book of Communism.

    This way, we will have a detailed account of all the nastiness done by others.

    Black Book of Hindus.
    Black Book of Chinese.
    Black Book of Homos.
    Black Book of Jews.
    Black Book of Muslims.
    Black Book of Aztecs.
    Black Book of Blacks.
  191. @biz
    I've noted before that I agree this will happen. So what do you think is the timescale?

    The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years - significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period. With those conversions, for the women, will come dressing modestly, giving up drinking, and settling down as wives with Muslim men.

    “The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years – significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period.”

    I thought feminists and leftists are generally atheists. Yet, you are convinced they will have a conversion experience and become a Muslim. Wow, just wow.

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    This is already happening but not in significant numbers.
    Also, "atheist" doesn't really mean anything. It's not a position in itself but a failure to hold a position, unless you're half of Penn and Teller. If you're a ordinary person you will eventually succumb to some sort of religious thinking. Where they do not convert, feminists are already happy to wear the hijab, sit in the segregated women's corner, and babble about how the call to prayer is beautiful.
  192. @AnotherGuessModel
    Could it be a holdover from when the noble or obscenely wealthy classes walked very little, and were carried everywhere by their servants? In China, the movie The Last Emperor showed that it was a strict formality to only carry some members of the Chinese aristocracy, their feet never to touch the lowly ground of many spaces, and commoners were not even allowed to look directly at them.

    Sickening.

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  193. @biz
    I've noted before that I agree this will happen. So what do you think is the timescale?

    The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years - significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period. With those conversions, for the women, will come dressing modestly, giving up drinking, and settling down as wives with Muslim men.

    These women couldn’t just stop dressing like hookers and binge-drinking like self-destructive morons, without converting to islam? Nah, too much to hope for, I imagine.

    Your prediction is all too plausible, though one might quibble with the short timeframe. (Tho ya never know)

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  194. @reiner Tor
    It'd be hilarious if it happened so quickly, but I think it will take longer. Perhaps the first few conversions will happen within the next decade, but not more.

    What would be “hilarious” about our women openly caving in to savage backwards bullies, betraying their nation and their family, and siding with our enemies?

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  195. @Corvinus
    "The way things are moving, I now think it will be within 7-10 years – significant numbers of white feminists and white leftists of various stripes in North America and Western Europe will begin converting to Islam in that period."

    I thought feminists and leftists are generally atheists. Yet, you are convinced they will have a conversion experience and become a Muslim. Wow, just wow.

    This is already happening but not in significant numbers.
    Also, “atheist” doesn’t really mean anything. It’s not a position in itself but a failure to hold a position, unless you’re half of Penn and Teller. If you’re a ordinary person you will eventually succumb to some sort of religious thinking. Where they do not convert, feminists are already happy to wear the hijab, sit in the segregated women’s corner, and babble about how the call to prayer is beautiful.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "This is already happening but not in significant numbers."

    Do you have any sources that describe how feminists and atheists are converting to Islam?

    "Also, “atheist” doesn’t really mean anything. It’s not a position in itself but a failure to hold a position, unless you’re half of Penn and Teller."

    Of course "atheist" means something. There are a number of people who disbelieve in the existence of God, and have written books on the subject outlining their perspectives.

    "If you’re a ordinary person you will eventually succumb to some sort of religious thinking."

    Non sequitur.

    If you are ordinary, you will have religion in your life.
    You have religion in your life.
    Therefore, you are ordinary.

    Except there are ordinary, i.e. normal, people who are not religious or do not believe in a religion.

    "Where they do not convert, feminists are already happy to wear the hijab, sit in the segregated women’s corner, and babble about how the call to prayer is beautiful."

    Perhaps based on your experiences. But that would only be anecdotal evidence.
  196. @Anonymous Nephew
    Guardian - "Through them, Holly meets a circle of older Asian men. " The M-word or I-word are not found, though another Guardian piece talks about building "strong families and communities" - they were pretty strong some 60 years back, but the Guardian/BBC have been working hard since then to trash them.

    Telegraph - "Between 2005 and 2008, hundreds of teenage girls were groomed and sexually abused by Asian men in the Rochdale area... Three Girls will be seized on by opportunists seeking to denigrate British Muslim culture"

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/may/17/three-girls-review-rochdale-child-sexual-abuse-scandal

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-one-review-rochdale-sex-abuse-drama-hard/

    Apparently Muslims are Muslim when doing something good, and “Asian” or some such nonsense when doing something cruel, violent, or underhanded. Funny how that works.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Apparently Muslims are Muslim when doing something good, and “Asian” or some such nonsense when doing something cruel, violent, or underhanded. Funny how that works."

    It's similar to how when the Left tries to sell open borders to Whites as a good thing than all of a sudden they paint Hispanics as a White ethnic group no different from Serbians and Czechs for example. But when you talk about wanting to deport illegal immigrant Hispanics than all of a sudden the Left says you are racist against Brown people.

    But how are they Brown if they are supposedly no racially different from Czechs and Serbs?

  197. @TheJester
    The Narrative Stays the Same ...

    An uplifting story about immigrants bringing their slaves and other local customs with them when they relocate to the United States. This is not an isolated case. In the broad span of things, the Internet is awash with shorts about the continued existence of chattel and de facto slavery in Haiti, subSaharan Africa, the sheikdoms of the Arabian peninsula, and Asia. They often bring their slaves with them when they come to the United States to visit or to stay.

    However, there is a tone in many of the comments that anticipates what might be the evolving Narrative that ensures that White cisgendered males continue to be the personification of evil in the world.

    You see, as in the above story, Asian slavery is a benign form of slavery in which slaves become ersatz members of the family and household. The same is true in the continuing traditions of slavery in subSaharan Africa and Haiti ... caring for those who cannot care for themselves as it were.

    White slavery, on the other hand, was a thing apart. It was an especially vile form of slavery that exploited the slaves to a degree that motivated the Whites themselves to force a violent end to it in the 19th Century. Indeed, the plight of the White-owned slaves was so odious that it continues to justify special social and economic privileges and reparations for their descendants down to the sixth generation.

    Appreciate your comment and would add this: what about the vast majority of white Americans who had ZERO slave-owning ancestors in the USA?

    In fact, many of us (like me) did not even have ancestors in the USA until after slavery was abolished throughout the country.

    What about Asian-Americans like my wife, who had zero ancestors in the USA until slavery was abolished, Reconstruction was done, and even Jim Crow regimes in the States had been eliminated?

    We too pay “reparations” for something that none of our families had ANYTHING to do with — enormous financial payments — in the form of higher taxes, higher car-insurance premiums (theft), higher security costs (theft and violence), higher medical-insurance premiums, higher college tuition (to cover aid disproportionately given to African-”American” kids), private-school tuition (to avoid the hypersexuality, violence, intimidation, and drug use that characterize African “public” schools and neighborhoods more than all others), etc.

    WE deserve repayment by the African-anti-American “community.” I won’t hold my breath.

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    There are screenplays rotting in the fields. Some historians indicate that half to two-thirds of pre-Revolutionary War male immigrants were indentured servants. They came to our fair shores under contracts of up to seven years, then the survivors tried to eke out a living. They contributed to their communities, soon-to-be states and eventual country.

    Nobody wants to watch a movie about such long-dead white people, or so the Hollywood offerings would instruct us.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude_in_the_Americas
  198. He must mean 11 yo traditional American kids are stupid. Not where I’m from.

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  199. @Daniel Chieh
    Actually, I agree 100% and should amend what I wrote. It seems to be a wealthy thing, period. The reason why I mentioned the English was that it was doing a time when women were not expected to work, but despite the Victorian "cult of motherhood", in practice, it didn't seem to materialize with the wealthier classes. In particular, I recalled from Gormenghast and the conveyed sheer and overwhelming indifference of Countess Gertrude for her infant son. This surely varied from person to person, but there seemed to be an oddly "low status" to be concerned overmuch with the daily care of one's child.

    But yes, there does seem to be a consistent connection to most cultures, even historically, of high status women doing very little with the raising of their children.

    I think that right now in the US there’s a certain status to the opposite: going for labor intensive motherhood, even when it makes no sense. I delivered two babies at NYU hospital, which caters to the relatively well off in NYC. My first was severely underweight at term and I was high as a kite after a c section and they wanted me to keep her in my room and care for her despite this, which I found terrifying, because I was so drugged, and so exhausted that it felt dangerous.* I couldn’t get the nurses to take her to the nursery until I became so tired I was incoherent. With my second, I lost a liter of blood during delivery, went into shock during recovery, nearly died and flatly refused to have the baby in the room until I could, say, feed myself without assistance. The nurses complied, but the message was clear that if I was a decent mother I’d be somehow caring for him and breastfeeding despite this. There’s a fair amount of mummy snobbery in my set about stuff like DIY baby food and breastfeeding, which are clearly status symbols.

    *Turns out I wasn’t nuts. Newborns have died at Baby Friendly (a UN designation for “militantly pro breastfeeding”) Hospitals in Europe have died after their exhausted, often drugged, hours post-partum mothers accidentally dropped or smothered them in the maternity ward.

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    @Dave Pinsen

    On the matter of dating girls, I think his bitching is legit in this sense: American Dream of Equality is a Big Lie. Race does matter. Maybe he didn’t connect all the dots, but he is to be lauded for realizing there is more to America than Equality.
     
    Equality means equal rights under the law, and (perhaps less convincingly) equal opportunity in the economy. It never meant equal success in the sexual market. And it's not a racial thing: within every racial group, there are sexual market winners and losers. I had an Filipino roommate in college who got lots of girls, nearly all of them white.

    Your comment reminds me of the silliest part of the otherwise solid movie about the battle of Stalingrad, Enemy At The Gates: when the commissar loses his faith in communism because the girl he was crushing on had the hots for the sniper. Jude Law's getting the girl in any economic system.

    It’s all relative.

    Given that most POC attitude is dindu-nuffin-too, it took some courage for Tizon to admit to something dark in his own culture and family.

    I mean we are living in a time when some Jewish guy in Israel makes all these bogus threats and ADL counts it as ‘antisemitism’.

    Or we get stuff like GET OUT.

    So, any reflection on part of POC is welcome.

    In fact, Alt Right should assemble BLACK BOOK for every people.

    It’d be like the Black Book of Communism.

    This way, we will have a detailed account of all the nastiness done by others.

    Black Book of Hindus.
    Black Book of Chinese.
    Black Book of Homos.
    Black Book of Jews.
    Black Book of Muslims.
    Black Book of Aztecs.
    Black Book of Blacks.

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  201. @poolside
    Every one of my liberal friends has linked to this story on either Facebook or Twitter, and mentioned how it "made them cry."

    The virtue signaling is strong.

    Happened over here as well.

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  202. @Anonymous
    Interestingly, the author died just a couple of months ago (at age 57), right before he was to have learned that the Atlantic wanted to feature his story about Lola as their cover story.

    Both you and Sailer are wrong, to some extent.

    Sailer, of course, as he does with just about anything other than HBD, gives the article summary a once over and plops the article as evidence that immigrants are bad, which I have no problem accepting. Fine, but it ignores the real interesting human story which Tizon tells (always putting himself as the savior, of course)--Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines--whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author's mother) is up for debate. One thing I'm pretty sure would not have happened in the Philippines is that Lola wouldn't have lived to be 87 there. Regardless, I'm sure somehow Sailer will connect Lola's story with Obama's mother's dissertation about agrarian farming among the Asian island people all directed and managed by secret CIA operatives from Chechnya who've just received asylum status in the US. It always seems to fit together neatly like that in the Sailer world-view.

    You, on the other hand, are silly with your "this negates the skepticism most Sailer readers have about 'magic dirt.'" It does nothing of the sort. The author Tizon wrote a whole screed in 2014 “Big Little Man: In Search of My Asian Self” to justify his hatred for all things white, how the source of his inadequacies, alienation and unhappiness was that white people were too big (in every sense of the word, the author has a fixation about his penis size), too happy, too beautiful and too content. This guy was the very epitome of an ungrateful creep who hated everything about the country that made it possible for him to become a Pulitzer winning journalist. He despises everything associated with being a normal american--or in his view a member of the so-called "model minority." No amount of magic dirt could remove the vile feelings and thoughts this guy had for white people.

    Interestingly, Lola did not appear in his screed. She must have seemed worthy of introspection only after she died and her ashes were laid to rest in her native Philippine village.

    Lola was a dirt poor girl in the Philippines–whether her life there as the wife to a pig-farmer twice her age would have been much better than her life in the US as an unpaid nanny, cleaner and cook to a bitch of a woman (the Author’s mother) is up for debate.

    Kunta Kinte was a dirt-poor boy in Africa-whether his life there as a peon or spear-carrier for some fat old psychotic warlord would have been much better than his life in the US as an unpaid gardener and porter to some violent drunken bastard of a man (an Anglo) is also debatable.

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  203. @jesse helms think-alike
    I haven't watched Summer of Sam all the way through but I never thought there was that much of an antiJew undercurrent to the parts I saw. Of course given Lee's background it should be no surprise that he has little love for "God's chosen people."

    Interesting fact: Michael Imperioli , Chris Moltisanti on the Sopranos, has a screenwriting credit for the movie together with Lee and others

    Lee did include this catchy disco tune by "Machine" in the Summer of Sam Soundtrack

    which includes the following lyrics:

    "Carlos and Carmen Vidal just had a child
    A lovely girl with a crooked smile
    Now they gotta split 'cause the Bronx ain't fit
    For a kid to grow up in
    Let's find a place they say, somewhere far away
    With no blacks, no Jews and no gays"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_lPHjn0Aqk

    I had always assumed his point was that Lee liked the idea of reminding people about a Jewish serial killer. It’s not one of Lee’s better movies.

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  204. @poolside
    Every one of my liberal friends has linked to this story on either Facebook or Twitter, and mentioned how it "made them cry."

    The virtue signaling is strong.

    Not everything is virtue signalling.

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  205. @Anon
    But, I am told, he hadn’t bothered to mention his family’s slaveowning in his 2014 memoirs.

    Even so, I think he should be lauded for writing this at all before his death.

    It shows some degree of conscience.... which is sorely lacking from other POC who ONLY BLAME WHITES.
    What sickens me most is Latin American whites posing as POC. Few things are more lowdown. I know why they do it. They are scared as hell of the masses of non-whites in Latin America. What if those 'darkies' rise up against Latin whites? So, how convenient for Latin whites to pose as POC, brothers and sisters of the 'darkies', and blame the Gringo for all the 'racismo'.
    The other reason is just inferiority complex. Since Anglos achieved much more, the Latin white justification for failure is, "We meant to do that." In other words, Latin Whites decided to be less successful and 'greedy' just to be closer to the 'darky' masses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urnRVr1P2bc

    On the matter of dating girls, I think his bitching is legit in this sense: American Dream of Equality is a Big Lie. Race does matter. Maybe he didn't connect all the dots, but he is to be lauded for realizing there is more to America than Equality. Indeed, diversity = inequality.

    “What sickens me most is Latin American whites posing as POC.”

    Using the one drop rule of any drop of African and or Amerindian DNA automatically makes you Nonwhite, the average “White” Latin American can easily claim POC status.

    Genetic studies show that even the average Argentinian is not pure White and Argentina is the “Whitest” country in Latin America.

    So when even when Argentina can not claim White racial purity, there is no hope for the rest of Latin America.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3142769/

    The average Argentinian is genetically 20%-21% Nonwhite in her or his DNA.

    20%-21% Nonwhite DNA is plenty enough to claim POC status for affirmative action purposes.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Using the one drop rule of any drop of African and or Amerindian DNA automatically makes you Nonwhite, the average “White” Latin American can easily claim POC status.
     
    The one drop rule applies to Blacks, not Amerinds
  206. @Jefferson
    There is a movie called Eden where a sex slave ring of Black, Brown, and Oriental girls is run by White male pimps led by Beau Bridges, Jeff Bridges brother.

    Think of Rotherham, except replace White girl sex slaves with Nonwhite girl sex slaves and replace Pakistani Muslim pimps with White pimps.

    Talk about pure Hollywood fantasy fiction.

    The BBC has just been busy recently pimping its new drama Three Girls, based (in the loosest sense of the term) on the Rochdale , Rotherham (and other English rustbelt towns) grooming gangs.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3578290/viewers-horrified-and-disturbed-by-harrowing-bbc-rochdale-grooming-drama-three-girls/

    In a strange plot twist, one fairly crucial element has been altered. Can you guess what it is?

    All the abusers and conspirators are resoundingly English, and white.

    Antediluvian and wildly popular ITV soap Coronation Street is also running a sweaty and scary grooming story. And of course, the perp is a white Englishman.
    Had to be really, Corrie is a strange place, an entire Northern urban neighbourhood inhabited solely by monoglot white English working-class people. Like Albert Square in East Enders, another apartheid soap opera enclave.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    I don't know why this hit me in the gut--there's nothing about it we couldn't predict.

    But it did.

    Englishmen and women are taxed to pay for BBC, what about ITV?