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From the Associated Press:

Israel police arrest suspect in threats on US Jewish targets

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli police on Thursday arrested a 19-year-old Israeli Jewish man as the primary suspect in a string of bomb threats targeting Jewish community centers and other institutions in the U.S., marking a potential breakthrough in the case after an international manhunt with the FBI.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld described the suspect as a hacker, but said his motives were still unclear. Police banned publication of his name, but said he was an American-Israeli dual citizen and that he would remain in custody until at least March 30.

From the Washington Post last month:

The Fix Analysis
Trump is flirting with the idea that anti-Semitic incidents are false flags — yet again

By Aaron Blake February 28

From the Daily Beast last month:

SAY WHAT?

Trump Appears to Suggest Bomb Threats Against Jews Are False Flags

He supposedly said they done were to “make others look bad,” consistent with the White House/Breitbart line that protesters and leakers are working for Democrats.
by Gideon Resnick

02.28.17 12:29 PM ET

After a slew of bomb threats forced evacuations at Jewish community centers and schools in 11 states on Monday, President Trump reportedly suggested that the threats may have been done to “make others look bad.”

Billy Penn and Buzzfeed interviewed Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro after he met with Trump at the White House on Tuesday. Shapiro, a Democrat, quoted Trump as saying the bomb threats may have come from “the reverse” in order to “make others look bad.”

“He used the word ‘reverse’ I would say two to three times in his comments,” Shapiro told Billy Penn. “I really don’t know what he means, and I don’t know why he said that.”

 
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  1. Ockham’s blindfold strikes again.

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  2. Reality is on his side on these kinds of issues and yet for whatever reason he’s focusing on going all in on conservative health care reform which requires a complete divorce from reality to get behind.

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  3. The Emperor had better put some clothes on. His circumcision is showing.

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    • Troll: International Jew
    • Replies: @SFG
    You might not agree with Buzz Mohawk (I often don't), but he's posted here quite a few times, and he's no troll.
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  4. Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld described the suspect as a hacker, but said his motives were still unclear.

    I will tell his motives to Mr. Rosenfeld for free.

    He perfectly knew that white gentile nationalists (a.k.a. Trump supporters) would be blamed. From that it follows that he wanted to harm them and the president they just elected.

    In short, his motives were to harm Trump and white gentile nationalism in general, by creating a kind of blood libel against white gentiles.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    You get partial credit.
    , @IHTG

    Israel’s Channel 10 TV showed footage of the suspect appearing in court in the central Israeli city of Rishon Letzion. He wore tan pants and a blue sweater that he used to cover his face as he walked past reporters. The channel said the young man had lived in the U.S. for a period of time and had been home-schooled. It showed images of a large antenna outside his house and said his father was also arrested.

    At the courthouse, the suspect’s lawyer, Galit Bash, told reporters that her client had a “very serious medical condition” that had kept him out of compulsory military service and might have affected his behavior.

    He “didn’t serve in the army, didn’t go to high school, didn’t go to elementary school,” she said. “So that’s why the medical condition can actually affect the investigation.” Channel 10 described the condition as a brain tumor.
     

    I suspect his motives may be similar to those of one Joshua Goldberg.
    , @MW
    Other possible motives:

    1) He is a pro-Zionist Israeli who wanted to encourage American Jews to make aliyah.

    2) He is an anti-Zionist/anti-settlements Israeli who saw Trump as favorable to the settler movement and wanted to derail any American Jew/Trump alliance.

    3) He was thoroughly delusional and his motives were incoherent.

    4) He's just an angry 19 year old who wanted to break shit, and this was the prank he stumbled upon.

    , @bored identity
    What really matters is that Bibi digs Trump.
    Hopefully, Trump digs Bibi as well
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  5. OT: Obamacare’s Medicare expansion contributing to prescription drug overdose

    http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2017/03/obamacares-backfire.html

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  6. Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    I’m sure some Jewish people are going to be ticked off at that remark, but let’s be honest. There has been an alleged large increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes since Trump has been elected. There have been four arrests: a 13 year old kid, a Jewish guy who spray painted swastikas on his own home, a black guy who made bomb threats because of whatever, and this Israeli American who apparently made the bulk of the calls. So the arrests are running 3:1 in favor of hate hoaxing.

    Then there was cemetery vandalism. In the NY case, it has been rebutted by the cemetery itself: natural erosion and subsidence has caused the stones to topple, where they are left. In other cases, PHI and STL (for example), the evidence seems a bit more clearcut, but, at the same time, I don’t know of any arrests, and I don’t know of these desecrations being claimed by: (1) White Nationalists, (2) Honest to God Nazis, (3) Isis, (4) Muslims, (5) black people. I guess that leaves Asians and Latinos? However, in all fairness, I would suggest that it is reasonable to be skeptical about these desecrations, until, of course, someone is actually arrested.

    There’s a little bit of “Crying wolf” at play here. It’s a certainty that there are a number of people who feel great hostility to Jews. It’s also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred. But it’s very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense. Based on the arrest patterns so far, the preponderance of evidence is definitely in favor of hate hoaxes.

    Now one of my prior respondents made the good point that whenever you have a highly publicized vandalism, it can inspire the usual suspects to engage in copycat vandalism. That is true. It can also inspire copycat hate hoaxes, the black guy being the clearest proof of this.

    On balance, I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem, but also not growing due to a lack of censorship by Amazon, YouTube, or Google, or due to Trump’s election, or due to the absence of ever more stringent hate crimes laws.

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    • Replies: @Moshe
    I'm not ticked off by the comment at all.

    The whole trope about Trump dog whistling to anti-semites has always sounded insanely odd considering as how his daughter and son-in-law with whom he is very close are Orthodox Jews, as are his grandchildren from his daughter. How anyone could believe that he is a secret Kevin MacDonald is incredible to me.
    , @Anon7
    "...it’s very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense."

    It's getting easier, though, isn't it?
    , @Nico

    I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem
     
    To the extent that anti-Semitism IS present, exactly whose "problem" is it?

    For quite some time now the leftist intelligentsia has, with the encouragement or at least blind eye of prominent Democratic Party officials, engaged in the most vicious witch hunt against any white gentile who does not fall in line with the disgusting cultural erosion and population replacement they and their illegitimate lovers in Europe have been undertaking throughout they entire Western world. If the 2000s made anything clear they made it clear that executing this master plan is now official Democratic Party ideology. Anyone who doesn't know this by now is living in a cave.

    And, here's the key. Notwithstanding the obvious good fellows such as Ilana Mercer, Pamela Gellar and so forth, who will always have my respect and admiration, the fact is that Jews still voted overwhelmingly for the candidate of mainstream consumerist libertinism and the mass importation of a brown peon underclass. They had to be aware they were actively collaborating with the destructors of anything worthwhile in the America we know.

    Is anti-Semitic violence justified? NO, absolutely not. But beyond prosecuting specific crimes as they come irrespective of any "motive" or "phenomenon," why should I care about the general strife specific to a tribe the overwhelming majority of whose members are actively colluding to destroy my own?

    , @reiner Tor
    Though of course I know mostly the right tail of the distribution, most Jew-haters are not even remotely interested in perpetrating such hate crimes. Having said that, at least in Europe there are some football (soccer) hooligan types who are inclined to do anything stupid. So on balance we cannot totally rule out the possibility of real hate crimes.
    , @International Jew

    Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?
     
    My Bayesian prior for this outcome was 25%. So I'm a little surprised, though hardly stunned.

    It'll be interesting to know what this guy's motivation was (and leave it to the Israeli police to find out; in Israel there's no right to remain silent).

    Embarrassing Trump would not be my first guess. First, because Trump is popular in Israel (probably more popular than he is in Idaho or Wyoming). Second, because this fellow lives in Ashkelon, which is kinda the Peoria of Israel — not rich in SJW types.

    A more likely motivation (and remember we're talking about a knucklehead here) is that he had a grand scheme to stir up panic among American Jews and thus induce them to come live in Israel. That's my first guess.

    My second guess is that he was mostly in it for the technological challenge, and in addition had some grudge against a JCC somewhere.

    , @Ragno

    Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?
     
    Is 'infinity' a number? Because I always expect to discover a telltale triple-parentheses every time one of these silly 'atrocities' (spray-painted swastikas, tipped-over headstones, prank calls to Jewish community centers) hogs the local media coverage. And I'm usually correct.

    I've nearly gotten to the point where I'm seeing these marshmallow 'hate crimes' as a kind of Jewish comfort food; for the price of a can of spray paint, you can leaf through the local papers a day later and get that all-important ego-stroke of See How Important We Are! And How Feared!
    That's a pretty good ROI.....
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  7. Reiner Tor,

    It is extremely highly unlikely that he is a leftist. What you believe regarding his motives might be accurate from a Jewish nationalistic perspective where he wants to encourage Jews to move to Israel. It is however much much more likely that he was doing it for other reasons and cares very little about other Jews.

    As for the Jerusalem police chief not mentioning his name yet, and practically all civilized nations, other than our own of course, some effort, small or large, is put into not publicizing the name of someone arrested but not yet charged. One of the things that shocked the French with that whole business with whatever his name was and the maid from Guinea what is the guilty verdict in the eyes of the people before the courts even had a chance to look at it. In many ways comma America is far far less civilized than we would like to believe it is.

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    Do you write comments by talking into your computer?

    In many ways comma America is far far less civilized than we would like to believe it is.
     
    , @reiner Tor

    As for the Jerusalem police chief not mentioning his name yet, and practically all civilized nations, other than our own of course, some effort, small or large, is put into not publicizing the name of someone arrested but not yet charged.
     
    I agree with this practice (in my own country it's done the same way), and I also agree it's barbaric to name and publicly shame people whose culpability is far from proven in a court of law.

    It's also essentially barbaric in the very same way to publicly libel Trump or his supporters without a shred of evidence, the way the ADL did. The ADL is not a very civilized organization.
    , @reiner Tor

    It is extremely highly unlikely that he is a leftist.
     
    Leftist is not exactly what I wrote. Nationalists often think that other peoples' nationalism is not so good for them. I think this is true of many peoples (e.g. inexplicably Hungarian nationalists often prefer Romanian non-nationalists over Romanian nationalists), and in my experience, it's a widespread attitude among Jewish nationalists. In fact, many leftists are often Jewish nationalists who advocate leftism for gentiles.

    But even if his sole motive was to encourage Jews moving to Israel, he did it by putting white gentile nationalists in the worst possible light. He also was totally indifferent to the harm this might cause to white gentiles.
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  8. @SPMoore8
    Let's be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    I'm sure some Jewish people are going to be ticked off at that remark, but let's be honest. There has been an alleged large increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes since Trump has been elected. There have been four arrests: a 13 year old kid, a Jewish guy who spray painted swastikas on his own home, a black guy who made bomb threats because of whatever, and this Israeli American who apparently made the bulk of the calls. So the arrests are running 3:1 in favor of hate hoaxing.

    Then there was cemetery vandalism. In the NY case, it has been rebutted by the cemetery itself: natural erosion and subsidence has caused the stones to topple, where they are left. In other cases, PHI and STL (for example), the evidence seems a bit more clearcut, but, at the same time, I don't know of any arrests, and I don't know of these desecrations being claimed by: (1) White Nationalists, (2) Honest to God Nazis, (3) Isis, (4) Muslims, (5) black people. I guess that leaves Asians and Latinos? However, in all fairness, I would suggest that it is reasonable to be skeptical about these desecrations, until, of course, someone is actually arrested.

    There's a little bit of "Crying wolf" at play here. It's a certainty that there are a number of people who feel great hostility to Jews. It's also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred. But it's very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense. Based on the arrest patterns so far, the preponderance of evidence is definitely in favor of hate hoaxes.

    Now one of my prior respondents made the good point that whenever you have a highly publicized vandalism, it can inspire the usual suspects to engage in copycat vandalism. That is true. It can also inspire copycat hate hoaxes, the black guy being the clearest proof of this.

    On balance, I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem, but also not growing due to a lack of censorship by Amazon, YouTube, or Google, or due to Trump's election, or due to the absence of ever more stringent hate crimes laws.

    I’m not ticked off by the comment at all.

    The whole trope about Trump dog whistling to anti-semites has always sounded insanely odd considering as how his daughter and son-in-law with whom he is very close are Orthodox Jews, as are his grandchildren from his daughter. How anyone could believe that he is a secret Kevin MacDonald is incredible to me.

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    How anyone could believe that he is a secret Kevin MacDonald is incredible to me.
     
    That would have to be one of ISteve's proverbial "triple bankshots".
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  9. Note how there is Konspiracy Kookery, and then there’s Konspiracy Kookery. How many WNs on this site alone predicted that this was a Jewish false flag op?

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  10. It’s also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred.

    It’s also pretty certain that Jews feed off of “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!,” and when it isn’t found, they have a tendency to manufacture it. Morris Dees is a Righteous Gentile providing a valuable service.

    But it’s very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense.

    It’s also a bit tendentious to create a distinction between authentic hate crime and hate hoax nonsense. The real distinction seems to be whether Jews are the targets, or Whites are.

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  11. So what?

    Most crimes are committed by white males.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/nyregion/manhattan-nyc-james-harris-jackson-hate-crime.html?_r=2

    Trump voters already experiencing buyers remorse

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/22/new_quinnipiac_poll_shows_trump_s_numbers_sliding_60_percent_find_him_dishonest.html

    You guys should check out Leonard Pitts

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    That's laughable, Tiny.

    Blacks, proportionate to their numbers, are by far the big time leaders in crime, violent crime, rapes, & murders.

    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    highlights:


    The evidence suggests that if there is police racial bias in arrests it is negligible. Victim and witness surveys show that police arrest violent criminals in close proportion to the rates at which criminals of different races commit violent crimes.

    There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups.

    In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.

    In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

    In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. For the crime of “shooting” — defined as firing a bullet that hits someone — a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely.

    If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.

    In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.

    In 2015, a black person was 2.45 times more likely than a white person to be shot and killed by the police. A Hispanic person was 1.21 times more likely.
    These figures are well within what would be expected given race differences in crime rates and likelihood to resist arrest.

    In 2015, police killings of blacks accounted for approximately 4 percent of homicides of blacks.
    Police killings of unarmed blacks accounted for approximately 0.6 percent of homicides of blacks.
    The overwhelming majority of black homicide victims (93 percent from 1980 to 2008) were killed by blacks.

    Both violent and non-violent crime has been declining in the United States since a high in 1993. 2015 saw a disturbing rise in murder in major American cities that some observers associated with “depolicing” in response to intense media and public scrutiny of police activity.


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  12. Occam would suggest to me that maybe “guy has a brain tumor, is not right in head” may turn out to be the main “motive.”

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  13. I Blame Trump

    Of course. What was the question again?

    The pivots are seamless these days though. From http://www.dallasnews.com/news/world/2017/03/23/israelis-arrest-teen-hacker-threats-targeting-jewish-community-centers-across-us

    The Jewish Federation of Greater Dallas released a written statement Thursday thanking law enforcement for their work — but warning that copycats may take up the cause.

    “While this arrest puts behind us much consternation, we must remember that copycat perpetrators were also involved and remain free in addition to the desecration of cemeteries and other anti-Semitic incidents that continue to occur,” the statement said. “The safety of our Jewish community is essential to ensuring vibrant and joyful Jewish life in Dallas.”

    I wonder what punishment will be given and how it would compare to what would happen if this was done by Haven Monahan?

    P.S. I’m not holding my breath waiting for a retraction of the Trump blaming rhetoric which accompanied these incidents. I went back to leave a comment on a FB post which did so and for some reason FB hangs. Funny how that works.

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  14. @SPMoore8
    Let's be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    I'm sure some Jewish people are going to be ticked off at that remark, but let's be honest. There has been an alleged large increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes since Trump has been elected. There have been four arrests: a 13 year old kid, a Jewish guy who spray painted swastikas on his own home, a black guy who made bomb threats because of whatever, and this Israeli American who apparently made the bulk of the calls. So the arrests are running 3:1 in favor of hate hoaxing.

    Then there was cemetery vandalism. In the NY case, it has been rebutted by the cemetery itself: natural erosion and subsidence has caused the stones to topple, where they are left. In other cases, PHI and STL (for example), the evidence seems a bit more clearcut, but, at the same time, I don't know of any arrests, and I don't know of these desecrations being claimed by: (1) White Nationalists, (2) Honest to God Nazis, (3) Isis, (4) Muslims, (5) black people. I guess that leaves Asians and Latinos? However, in all fairness, I would suggest that it is reasonable to be skeptical about these desecrations, until, of course, someone is actually arrested.

    There's a little bit of "Crying wolf" at play here. It's a certainty that there are a number of people who feel great hostility to Jews. It's also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred. But it's very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense. Based on the arrest patterns so far, the preponderance of evidence is definitely in favor of hate hoaxes.

    Now one of my prior respondents made the good point that whenever you have a highly publicized vandalism, it can inspire the usual suspects to engage in copycat vandalism. That is true. It can also inspire copycat hate hoaxes, the black guy being the clearest proof of this.

    On balance, I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem, but also not growing due to a lack of censorship by Amazon, YouTube, or Google, or due to Trump's election, or due to the absence of ever more stringent hate crimes laws.

    “…it’s very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense.”

    It’s getting easier, though, isn’t it?

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  15. HEY! that’s racist appropriation only blacks are allowed to hoax!

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  16. I hope that we can blame Trump for the investigation, arrest and exposing the false flag nature of these anti-semitic hate crimes. This might be a sign that finally Sessions and DOJ are working for Trump for a change.

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  17. Why would the police have banned publication of his name?

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    • Replies: @anon
    He has a Muslim name.

    Senior police know future promotion depends on adherence to PC.
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  18. Great work, now if only he is also black and a Dem activist…Trifecta !

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    Buffalo Joe -

    He could be, you know. He just could be both!
    , @res
    Well, there was Juan Thompson earlier with some of the JCC threats. I think the combination is close enough to pay off on your trifecta.
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  19. The fact that one source of anti-Semitic intimidation turns out to be a disturbed Israeli-Jewish teen doesn’t mean that the current political atmosphere among certain extreme fringe groups, both in the United States and in Europe, has not become darkly threatening–against Jews, Moslems, refugees, sexual minorities, and other such vulnerable groups.

    It’s much like the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing “patriot” and “white identity” types didn’t mean that the immediate knee-jerk assumption that the culprits had to be Middle Eastern terrorists, not native born “militia” men, was totally nonsense. It was in the immediate circumstances simply wrong.

    Extremism has a number of sources, including disturbed, misled, and pathological individuals, but it finds justification and flourishes most in an atmosphere of fear, violence, conspiracy, and xenophobia. We are now undergoing such a period in our national history.

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    • Replies: @Patrick Harris
    The troll giveaway: no liberal would actually write paragraph #2.
    , @Bill Jones
    "Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing “patriot” and “white identity” types"

    Thanks for the laugh.
    , @San Fernando Curt
    Invisible Cossacks ride again!!!!!
    , @Buffalo Joe
    TD, To Paraphrase Elizabeth Warren, "You didn't write that."
    , @Hunsdon
    Who are you and what have you done with our Tiny Duck?
    , @Mr. Anon
    It is unsuprising that you are statistically illiterate. It is of a piece with your general stupidity.
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  20. The Jews are playing with fire on many levels. This dual-loyalty, dual-citizenship stuff gets on people’s nerves. This so-called “American-Israeli dual citizen” schmuck who ran amok by allegedly calling in bomb threats to Jewish joints is not good for the Jews. People will begin to develop the habit of pattern recognition. Hate hoaxes will be seen as attacks on Whites and not just the criminal actions of individual non-Europeans.

    The hate hoaxes coming from the Blacks, Muslims, Jews and others could lead the European Christian ancestral core of the USA to feel that they must stick together to defend their own interests. European Christians do it in Texas and the Southern states as I write; maybe more states in other regions will do the same if these damn irritating anti-White hate hoaxes keep up.

    This particular hate hoax leads me to believe that the concept of the Jews as a hostile component of the American Empire’s ruling class has merit. It must also be said that the saturation coverage of these so-called “anti-Semitic” incidents in the corporate media makes a great example of the disproportionate Jewish power in the mass media. The Jews in the corporate propaganda apparatus were going on and on about this crap.

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  21. @reiner Tor

    Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld described the suspect as a hacker, but said his motives were still unclear.
     
    I will tell his motives to Mr. Rosenfeld for free.

    He perfectly knew that white gentile nationalists (a.k.a. Trump supporters) would be blamed. From that it follows that he wanted to harm them and the president they just elected.

    In short, his motives were to harm Trump and white gentile nationalism in general, by creating a kind of blood libel against white gentiles.

    You get partial credit.

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  22. @reiner Tor

    Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld described the suspect as a hacker, but said his motives were still unclear.
     
    I will tell his motives to Mr. Rosenfeld for free.

    He perfectly knew that white gentile nationalists (a.k.a. Trump supporters) would be blamed. From that it follows that he wanted to harm them and the president they just elected.

    In short, his motives were to harm Trump and white gentile nationalism in general, by creating a kind of blood libel against white gentiles.

    Israel’s Channel 10 TV showed footage of the suspect appearing in court in the central Israeli city of Rishon Letzion. He wore tan pants and a blue sweater that he used to cover his face as he walked past reporters. The channel said the young man had lived in the U.S. for a period of time and had been home-schooled. It showed images of a large antenna outside his house and said his father was also arrested.

    At the courthouse, the suspect’s lawyer, Galit Bash, told reporters that her client had a “very serious medical condition” that had kept him out of compulsory military service and might have affected his behavior.

    He “didn’t serve in the army, didn’t go to high school, didn’t go to elementary school,” she said. “So that’s why the medical condition can actually affect the investigation.” Channel 10 described the condition as a brain tumor.

    I suspect his motives may be similar to those of one Joshua Goldberg.

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    The Forward said the medical condition was a brain tumor.
    , @Opinionator
    Were the phone threats (had the person who placed them remained undiscovered) good for the jews?
    , @reiner Tor
    I guess you are assuming that his father was arrested for covering up the crime, or else he has the same mental condition.

    In any event, it's funny how these mental illnesses always happen to make their Jewish victims conveniently do what Jews often do even without them (there were at least two other hate hoaxes in the last couple months, with a third being caused by wear and tear in the cemetery, which is a large majority of all solved "hate" incidents), and how they make their Muslim victims go on jihad. Never the other way around.
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  23. Who wants to bet me that this guy won’t serve time?

    Anyone else remember this mensch?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Ryne_Goldberg

    or this child rapist?

    http://jewishjournal.com/news/los_angeles/212387/

    or these hate-criminal Hasids?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3744510/Hasidic-Jews-beat-gay-man-given-150-hours-community-service.html

    They got to do their “community service” in kosher areas, meanwhile the guy who sent a strobe tweet to Kurt Either Wald is going to do hard Federal time for it.

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  24. his motives were still unclear

    LOL

    I’d like to be a journalist. It’s like your first day on earth, every day.

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  25. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Honestly, I don’t know anyone who heard the recording of this kid’s voice could possibly be surprised.

    http://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/this-is-what-a-jcc-bomb-threat-sounds-like.

    I don’t understand how Jewish newspapers couldn’t recognize that accent if I could. That’s why I was a little surprised that they kept pushing the “only horrible Nazis could think this was a false flag” narrative.

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  26. white racist executes Black Man

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-man-accused-murder-came-nyc-target-blacks-181346318.html

    Looks like white men need to be deported!

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    How about we just execute him? Oh that's right, you people abolished the death penalty. Fail.
    , @San Fernando Curt
    ...And occasionally, man does bite dog.

    Before we're sent to the docks, we'll need a liiiiiitle more heft in the body count.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    TD, Google Beltway Sniper.
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  27. @Buffalo Joe
    Great work, now if only he is also black and a Dem activist...Trifecta !

    Buffalo Joe -

    He could be, you know. He just could be both!

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  28. @SPMoore8
    Let's be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    I'm sure some Jewish people are going to be ticked off at that remark, but let's be honest. There has been an alleged large increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes since Trump has been elected. There have been four arrests: a 13 year old kid, a Jewish guy who spray painted swastikas on his own home, a black guy who made bomb threats because of whatever, and this Israeli American who apparently made the bulk of the calls. So the arrests are running 3:1 in favor of hate hoaxing.

    Then there was cemetery vandalism. In the NY case, it has been rebutted by the cemetery itself: natural erosion and subsidence has caused the stones to topple, where they are left. In other cases, PHI and STL (for example), the evidence seems a bit more clearcut, but, at the same time, I don't know of any arrests, and I don't know of these desecrations being claimed by: (1) White Nationalists, (2) Honest to God Nazis, (3) Isis, (4) Muslims, (5) black people. I guess that leaves Asians and Latinos? However, in all fairness, I would suggest that it is reasonable to be skeptical about these desecrations, until, of course, someone is actually arrested.

    There's a little bit of "Crying wolf" at play here. It's a certainty that there are a number of people who feel great hostility to Jews. It's also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred. But it's very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense. Based on the arrest patterns so far, the preponderance of evidence is definitely in favor of hate hoaxes.

    Now one of my prior respondents made the good point that whenever you have a highly publicized vandalism, it can inspire the usual suspects to engage in copycat vandalism. That is true. It can also inspire copycat hate hoaxes, the black guy being the clearest proof of this.

    On balance, I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem, but also not growing due to a lack of censorship by Amazon, YouTube, or Google, or due to Trump's election, or due to the absence of ever more stringent hate crimes laws.

    I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem

    To the extent that anti-Semitism IS present, exactly whose “problem” is it?

    For quite some time now the leftist intelligentsia has, with the encouragement or at least blind eye of prominent Democratic Party officials, engaged in the most vicious witch hunt against any white gentile who does not fall in line with the disgusting cultural erosion and population replacement they and their illegitimate lovers in Europe have been undertaking throughout they entire Western world. If the 2000s made anything clear they made it clear that executing this master plan is now official Democratic Party ideology. Anyone who doesn’t know this by now is living in a cave.

    And, here’s the key. Notwithstanding the obvious good fellows such as Ilana Mercer, Pamela Gellar and so forth, who will always have my respect and admiration, the fact is that Jews still voted overwhelmingly for the candidate of mainstream consumerist libertinism and the mass importation of a brown peon underclass. They had to be aware they were actively collaborating with the destructors of anything worthwhile in the America we know.

    Is anti-Semitic violence justified? NO, absolutely not. But beyond prosecuting specific crimes as they come irrespective of any “motive” or “phenomenon,” why should I care about the general strife specific to a tribe the overwhelming majority of whose members are actively colluding to destroy my own?

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  29. MW says:
    @reiner Tor

    Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld described the suspect as a hacker, but said his motives were still unclear.
     
    I will tell his motives to Mr. Rosenfeld for free.

    He perfectly knew that white gentile nationalists (a.k.a. Trump supporters) would be blamed. From that it follows that he wanted to harm them and the president they just elected.

    In short, his motives were to harm Trump and white gentile nationalism in general, by creating a kind of blood libel against white gentiles.

    Other possible motives:

    1) He is a pro-Zionist Israeli who wanted to encourage American Jews to make aliyah.

    2) He is an anti-Zionist/anti-settlements Israeli who saw Trump as favorable to the settler movement and wanted to derail any American Jew/Trump alliance.

    3) He was thoroughly delusional and his motives were incoherent.

    4) He’s just an angry 19 year old who wanted to break shit, and this was the prank he stumbled upon.

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    1) ...and didn't care that white gentiles would take the fallout. Come to think about it, he didn't mind it at all.

    2) ...and did it in a way that caused harm to Trump and white gentile nationalism in general. Plausible.

    3) Let me guess: if he were a Muslim, the same delusions would cause him to go on jihad.

    4) Which accidentally caused harm to Trump and white gentile nationalism, . That must be it.
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  30. NYT: “We apologize for our previous articles vaguely blaming these attacks on the alt-right.”

    Just kidding.

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  31. “Getting raped is part and parcel of living in a big city.”
    London mayor Sadiq Khan

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  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Anne Frank Center blames Antisemitism:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/anne-frank-center-hits-trump-after-jewish-community-bomb-threat-arrest-2017-3

    We have received a number of Antisemitic messages this morning in response to the arrest in Israel of a Jewish young man as the suspect in a number of bomb threats to Jewish institutions in the United States and elsewhere. The theme of the Antisemitic messages has been this: See, it’s your people, Jews, who were responsible. One message to our organization said a “white” person was not responsible. Such vitriol requires us to respond further: Hate is hate, and our nation had the right to expect this Administration to respond to hate with urgency every time. Our organization, like others, had to pull teeth to get a governmental response to the bomb threats and other desecration. Almost every time, we never got responses. The religion of a suspect doesn’t matter. The hateful acts were the same, and the lack of governmental responses along the way were the same. Moreover, we will not tolerate using today’s arrests as a pretext for more Antisemitism or other hate. To point to the religion of one depraved individual, and use that as a pretext for hate against an entire religion, is immoral and unacceptable, and those who engage in such arguments should be ashamed of their own prejudice.

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    Stick to the program and full speed ahead!!!
    , @SPMoore8
    The Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect. LOL.

    I note that someone on some Jewish commentator's FB page is already calling it the "Great Antisemitic Moral Panic of 2017." Well. I wouldn't put it that way, but it sure sounds like it.
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  33. Trump Trauma leads to Trumpanic that leads to Trumparanoia that leads to Trumpranks.

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  34. Slightly OT, but the Chicago Tribune has an article about the mothers of Chicago shooting victims who are now suffering from PTDS. The article says that 29% of the 72 women studied showed signs of PTDS. The article was published in , wait for it, The Journal of Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities. White moms whose kids are murdered simply bury them and then off to the Country Club for a round of golf and drinks. We are doomed.

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    Coming soon to a tax bill near you: funding for PTSD moms.

    Coincidentally, Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore are all losing population. Death spirals abound.
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  35. Totally off-topic but: Why aren’t more women airline pilots?

    What I really would like to know is where are the demands from the “left” for XX female pilots on the commercial passenger jets that the “left” is so fond of travelling on? Where are the calls for boycott, from progressives, against airlines that don’t staff their flights with at least one XX female pilot? Commercial pilots are well paid and well respected. Why are XX women prevented from careers as pilots?

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  36. @SPMoore8
    Let's be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    I'm sure some Jewish people are going to be ticked off at that remark, but let's be honest. There has been an alleged large increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes since Trump has been elected. There have been four arrests: a 13 year old kid, a Jewish guy who spray painted swastikas on his own home, a black guy who made bomb threats because of whatever, and this Israeli American who apparently made the bulk of the calls. So the arrests are running 3:1 in favor of hate hoaxing.

    Then there was cemetery vandalism. In the NY case, it has been rebutted by the cemetery itself: natural erosion and subsidence has caused the stones to topple, where they are left. In other cases, PHI and STL (for example), the evidence seems a bit more clearcut, but, at the same time, I don't know of any arrests, and I don't know of these desecrations being claimed by: (1) White Nationalists, (2) Honest to God Nazis, (3) Isis, (4) Muslims, (5) black people. I guess that leaves Asians and Latinos? However, in all fairness, I would suggest that it is reasonable to be skeptical about these desecrations, until, of course, someone is actually arrested.

    There's a little bit of "Crying wolf" at play here. It's a certainty that there are a number of people who feel great hostility to Jews. It's also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred. But it's very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense. Based on the arrest patterns so far, the preponderance of evidence is definitely in favor of hate hoaxes.

    Now one of my prior respondents made the good point that whenever you have a highly publicized vandalism, it can inspire the usual suspects to engage in copycat vandalism. That is true. It can also inspire copycat hate hoaxes, the black guy being the clearest proof of this.

    On balance, I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem, but also not growing due to a lack of censorship by Amazon, YouTube, or Google, or due to Trump's election, or due to the absence of ever more stringent hate crimes laws.

    Though of course I know mostly the right tail of the distribution, most Jew-haters are not even remotely interested in perpetrating such hate crimes. Having said that, at least in Europe there are some football (soccer) hooligan types who are inclined to do anything stupid. So on balance we cannot totally rule out the possibility of real hate crimes.

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  37. @Buffalo Joe
    Slightly OT, but the Chicago Tribune has an article about the mothers of Chicago shooting victims who are now suffering from PTDS. The article says that 29% of the 72 women studied showed signs of PTDS. The article was published in , wait for it, The Journal of Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities. White moms whose kids are murdered simply bury them and then off to the Country Club for a round of golf and drinks. We are doomed.

    Coming soon to a tax bill near you: funding for PTSD moms.

    Coincidentally, Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore are all losing population. Death spirals abound.

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    Ivy, I know you mean people are leaving those cities voluntarily, but Chicago also lost almost 800 to murder,
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  38. Please refer to the $PLC’s website for future updates on this development. But, be patient, they are really busy.

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  39. Nothing to see here, folks, move along now… just some random hacker, “motives unclear.” Tsk tsk. Move along.

    Ummm… Look! Thataway! Over there!

    It’s Hitler! And he’s about to burn a cross and lynch some blacks along with Trump and the Grand Dragon of the KKK!!

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  40. @SPMoore8
    Let's be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    I'm sure some Jewish people are going to be ticked off at that remark, but let's be honest. There has been an alleged large increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes since Trump has been elected. There have been four arrests: a 13 year old kid, a Jewish guy who spray painted swastikas on his own home, a black guy who made bomb threats because of whatever, and this Israeli American who apparently made the bulk of the calls. So the arrests are running 3:1 in favor of hate hoaxing.

    Then there was cemetery vandalism. In the NY case, it has been rebutted by the cemetery itself: natural erosion and subsidence has caused the stones to topple, where they are left. In other cases, PHI and STL (for example), the evidence seems a bit more clearcut, but, at the same time, I don't know of any arrests, and I don't know of these desecrations being claimed by: (1) White Nationalists, (2) Honest to God Nazis, (3) Isis, (4) Muslims, (5) black people. I guess that leaves Asians and Latinos? However, in all fairness, I would suggest that it is reasonable to be skeptical about these desecrations, until, of course, someone is actually arrested.

    There's a little bit of "Crying wolf" at play here. It's a certainty that there are a number of people who feel great hostility to Jews. It's also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred. But it's very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense. Based on the arrest patterns so far, the preponderance of evidence is definitely in favor of hate hoaxes.

    Now one of my prior respondents made the good point that whenever you have a highly publicized vandalism, it can inspire the usual suspects to engage in copycat vandalism. That is true. It can also inspire copycat hate hoaxes, the black guy being the clearest proof of this.

    On balance, I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem, but also not growing due to a lack of censorship by Amazon, YouTube, or Google, or due to Trump's election, or due to the absence of ever more stringent hate crimes laws.

    Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    My Bayesian prior for this outcome was 25%. So I’m a little surprised, though hardly stunned.

    It’ll be interesting to know what this guy’s motivation was (and leave it to the Israeli police to find out; in Israel there’s no right to remain silent).

    Embarrassing Trump would not be my first guess. First, because Trump is popular in Israel (probably more popular than he is in Idaho or Wyoming). Second, because this fellow lives in Ashkelon, which is kinda the Peoria of Israel — not rich in SJW types.

    A more likely motivation (and remember we’re talking about a knucklehead here) is that he had a grand scheme to stir up panic among American Jews and thus induce them to come live in Israel. That’s my first guess.

    My second guess is that he was mostly in it for the technological challenge, and in addition had some grudge against a JCC somewhere.

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    Thanks for your insight.

    It is good to have one of the (((NESOHC))) here, despite the slings and arrows of some commentators, to clarify technical details of a people who, despite having lived among the goyim for millenia, are still quite inscrutable to them.

    This goy initially thought hurting Trump's followers politically must have been the motive; given that the hacker holds dual US/Israeli citizenship, you are persuasive in your conjecture that he probably may be enthusiastic -- clearly, too enthusiastic -- to have American Jews migrate to the Promised Land.
    , @Gabriel M
    He's not a nationalist. Mellienial nationalists, especially those who are prone to doing crazy stuff, wear kippot even if they're not personally religious, or/and, if they are mizrahi, have weird 80s post-punk haircuts.

    Judging by the pictures and the fact he's from Ashkelon, I'm guessing Russian/Ukrainian, probably not halachically Jewish. It's not impossible he is actually an anti-semite.
    , @TomSchmidt
    It’ll be interesting to know what this guy’s motivation was (and leave it to the Israeli police to find out; in Israel there’s no right to remain silent

    They'll talk it out of him; no torture needed!
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  41. @IHTG

    Israel’s Channel 10 TV showed footage of the suspect appearing in court in the central Israeli city of Rishon Letzion. He wore tan pants and a blue sweater that he used to cover his face as he walked past reporters. The channel said the young man had lived in the U.S. for a period of time and had been home-schooled. It showed images of a large antenna outside his house and said his father was also arrested.

    At the courthouse, the suspect’s lawyer, Galit Bash, told reporters that her client had a “very serious medical condition” that had kept him out of compulsory military service and might have affected his behavior.

    He “didn’t serve in the army, didn’t go to high school, didn’t go to elementary school,” she said. “So that’s why the medical condition can actually affect the investigation.” Channel 10 described the condition as a brain tumor.
     

    I suspect his motives may be similar to those of one Joshua Goldberg.

    The Forward said the medical condition was a brain tumor.

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  42. You can almost hear disappointment squash hopeful paranoia like an accordion…

    From ADL’s site:

    While the details of this crime remain unclear, the impact of this individual’s actions is crystal clear: These were acts of anti-Semitism. These threats targeted Jewish institutions, were calculated to sow fear and anxiety, and put the entire Jewish community on high alert.

    OK, but if that’s true, does the suspect hate himself, too? Is this a case of international/electronic “cutting?” Could a new social malady be forming from the self-obsession ether before our very eyes? Or was the kid trying to prop up the “they’re always out to get us” bonafides? …Getting a little tattered of late.

    Even though it appears that the main culprit behind the majority of these attacks has allegedly been identified, anti-Semitism in the U.S. remains a very serious concern. No arrests have been made in three cemetery desecrations or a series of other anti-Semitic incidents involving swastika graffiti and hate fliers. JCCs and other institutions should not relax security measures or become less vigilant.

    Yeah. We know. Hitler’s jumping out of the linen closet… forever.

    I’d be a lot more respectful if 1.) the ADL would go ahead and say out loud the suspect is Jewish – to the point of living in Israel, already. Also, lean off the “anti-Semitish is still everywhere!” button. Unless there’s blood in the streets, there’s no crisis. And none of the rest of us need be custodians of your extremely sensitive sensitivities.

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    OK, but if that’s true, does the suspect hate himself, too? Is this a case of international/electronic “cutting?”

    Actually, that's not totally impossible. This guy isn't right in the head, obviously, and he could easily despise his own people. There have been quite a few Jewish anti-Semites.

    What were his real motives? Who knows. We may find out with time.
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  43. This made me laugh.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/28/trump-appears-to-suggest-bomb-threats-against-jews-are-false-flags.html

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/23/the-slip-up-that-caught-the-jewish-center-bomb-caller.html

    Any danger of the Author of the first piece going back to his sources and asking them what they think now that they know trump was right?

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    Thanks, I'll post.
    , @Anonymous
    Outrage at the mere suggestion of the existence of the concept of a Jewish false flag is practically a genre unto itself:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/28/trump-is-reportedly-hinting-that-anti-semitic-incidents-are-false-flags-it-wouldnt-be-the-first-time/


    This post has been updated.
     
    To include this latest arrest? No dice.

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-trump-jewish-cemetery-desecration-20170303-story.html

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Jewish-groups-dismayed-by-Trumps-false-flag-suggestion-482872

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jews-anti-semitic-hate-crimes-false-flag-reverse-david-duke-kkk-ku-klux-klan-a7604801.html

    And more I've lost track of.


    Chelsea Clinton @ChelseaClinton

    This is sick. Antisemitism - with or without swastikas - is never funny, is never a joke, can never be painted as a facade. It is hate.

    Lucid Hurricane™✘ @Forever_Lucid
    [email protected] DYK anyone can spray paint a swastika and blame it on someone else to gain sympathy for yet someone else or themselves?
     


     
    http://www.timesunion.com/7dayarchive/article/Schenectady-man-accused-of-painting-swastikas-on-11016393.php
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  44. @Tiny Duck
    white racist executes Black Man

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-man-accused-murder-came-nyc-target-blacks-181346318.html


    Looks like white men need to be deported!

    How about we just execute him? Oh that’s right, you people abolished the death penalty. Fail.

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  45. @Tiny Duck
    The fact that one source of anti-Semitic intimidation turns out to be a disturbed Israeli-Jewish teen doesn't mean that the current political atmosphere among certain extreme fringe groups, both in the United States and in Europe, has not become darkly threatening--against Jews, Moslems, refugees, sexual minorities, and other such vulnerable groups.

    It's much like the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing "patriot" and "white identity" types didn't mean that the immediate knee-jerk assumption that the culprits had to be Middle Eastern terrorists, not native born "militia" men, was totally nonsense. It was in the immediate circumstances simply wrong.

    Extremism has a number of sources, including disturbed, misled, and pathological individuals, but it finds justification and flourishes most in an atmosphere of fear, violence, conspiracy, and xenophobia. We are now undergoing such a period in our national history.

    The troll giveaway: no liberal would actually write paragraph #2.

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  46. “Police spokesman Mickey Rosenfeld..” Love it! when I was a kid, had a Jewish classmate named Mickey – not too common here in the USofA nowadays.

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  47. @Anonymous
    The Anne Frank Center blames Antisemitism:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/anne-frank-center-hits-trump-after-jewish-community-bomb-threat-arrest-2017-3

    We have received a number of Antisemitic messages this morning in response to the arrest in Israel of a Jewish young man as the suspect in a number of bomb threats to Jewish institutions in the United States and elsewhere. The theme of the Antisemitic messages has been this: See, it's your people, Jews, who were responsible. One message to our organization said a "white" person was not responsible. Such vitriol requires us to respond further: Hate is hate, and our nation had the right to expect this Administration to respond to hate with urgency every time. Our organization, like others, had to pull teeth to get a governmental response to the bomb threats and other desecration. Almost every time, we never got responses. The religion of a suspect doesn't matter. The hateful acts were the same, and the lack of governmental responses along the way were the same. Moreover, we will not tolerate using today's arrests as a pretext for more Antisemitism or other hate. To point to the religion of one depraved individual, and use that as a pretext for hate against an entire religion, is immoral and unacceptable, and those who engage in such arguments should be ashamed of their own prejudice.
     

    Stick to the program and full speed ahead!!!

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  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Every single time the jihadis hit the goyim with a dramatic attack: headlines appear announcing attacks on Jewish places, persons, organizations.

    Every time the whitebread are hit they simultaneously get the reminders of who the real victims are!

    Hard not to notice the pattern. And 90% only read the headlines and not the story itself. Notice that this headline Steve is referencing doesn’t tell the real story of “Jew attacks a Jewish thing.”

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  49. @Anonymous
    The Anne Frank Center blames Antisemitism:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/anne-frank-center-hits-trump-after-jewish-community-bomb-threat-arrest-2017-3

    We have received a number of Antisemitic messages this morning in response to the arrest in Israel of a Jewish young man as the suspect in a number of bomb threats to Jewish institutions in the United States and elsewhere. The theme of the Antisemitic messages has been this: See, it's your people, Jews, who were responsible. One message to our organization said a "white" person was not responsible. Such vitriol requires us to respond further: Hate is hate, and our nation had the right to expect this Administration to respond to hate with urgency every time. Our organization, like others, had to pull teeth to get a governmental response to the bomb threats and other desecration. Almost every time, we never got responses. The religion of a suspect doesn't matter. The hateful acts were the same, and the lack of governmental responses along the way were the same. Moreover, we will not tolerate using today's arrests as a pretext for more Antisemitism or other hate. To point to the religion of one depraved individual, and use that as a pretext for hate against an entire religion, is immoral and unacceptable, and those who engage in such arguments should be ashamed of their own prejudice.
     

    The Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect. LOL.

    I note that someone on some Jewish commentator’s FB page is already calling it the “Great Antisemitic Moral Panic of 2017.” Well. I wouldn’t put it that way, but it sure sounds like it.

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  50. @Tiny Duck
    white racist executes Black Man

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-man-accused-murder-came-nyc-target-blacks-181346318.html


    Looks like white men need to be deported!

    …And occasionally, man does bite dog.

    Before we’re sent to the docks, we’ll need a liiiiiitle more heft in the body count.

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  51. @Tiny Duck
    The fact that one source of anti-Semitic intimidation turns out to be a disturbed Israeli-Jewish teen doesn't mean that the current political atmosphere among certain extreme fringe groups, both in the United States and in Europe, has not become darkly threatening--against Jews, Moslems, refugees, sexual minorities, and other such vulnerable groups.

    It's much like the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing "patriot" and "white identity" types didn't mean that the immediate knee-jerk assumption that the culprits had to be Middle Eastern terrorists, not native born "militia" men, was totally nonsense. It was in the immediate circumstances simply wrong.

    Extremism has a number of sources, including disturbed, misled, and pathological individuals, but it finds justification and flourishes most in an atmosphere of fear, violence, conspiracy, and xenophobia. We are now undergoing such a period in our national history.

    “Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing “patriot” and “white identity” types”

    Thanks for the laugh.

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  52. Surly this story will be front page above the fold on the NYT tomorrow. (Sarcasm Off)

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  53. @Bill Jones
    This made me laugh.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/28/trump-appears-to-suggest-bomb-threats-against-jews-are-false-flags.html

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/23/the-slip-up-that-caught-the-jewish-center-bomb-caller.html

    Any danger of the Author of the first piece going back to his sources and asking them what they think now that they know trump was right?

    Thanks, I’ll post.

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    Also these:

    Trump is flirting with the idea that anti-Semitic incidents are false flags — yet again
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/28/trump-is-reportedly-hinting-that-anti-semitic-incidents-are-false-flags-it-wouldnt-be-the-first-time/?utm_term=.2499b1dcd43a

    JEWISH GROUPS DISTURBED BY TRUMP'S FALSE FLAG SUGGESTION
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Jewish-groups-dismayed-by-Trumps-false-flag-suggestion-482872
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  54. @Tiny Duck
    The fact that one source of anti-Semitic intimidation turns out to be a disturbed Israeli-Jewish teen doesn't mean that the current political atmosphere among certain extreme fringe groups, both in the United States and in Europe, has not become darkly threatening--against Jews, Moslems, refugees, sexual minorities, and other such vulnerable groups.

    It's much like the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing "patriot" and "white identity" types didn't mean that the immediate knee-jerk assumption that the culprits had to be Middle Eastern terrorists, not native born "militia" men, was totally nonsense. It was in the immediate circumstances simply wrong.

    Extremism has a number of sources, including disturbed, misled, and pathological individuals, but it finds justification and flourishes most in an atmosphere of fear, violence, conspiracy, and xenophobia. We are now undergoing such a period in our national history.

    Invisible Cossacks ride again!!!!!

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    Invisible Cossacks ride again!!!!!
     
    Those would be Jewish Cossacks.

    Being Jewish means that the world must be made safe from anti-Semitism, always, even from the anti-Semitism of other Jews.

    But, of course, not so "safe" that there is no blonde or Asian shiksa to date/marry.
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  55. @SPMoore8
    Let's be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    I'm sure some Jewish people are going to be ticked off at that remark, but let's be honest. There has been an alleged large increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes since Trump has been elected. There have been four arrests: a 13 year old kid, a Jewish guy who spray painted swastikas on his own home, a black guy who made bomb threats because of whatever, and this Israeli American who apparently made the bulk of the calls. So the arrests are running 3:1 in favor of hate hoaxing.

    Then there was cemetery vandalism. In the NY case, it has been rebutted by the cemetery itself: natural erosion and subsidence has caused the stones to topple, where they are left. In other cases, PHI and STL (for example), the evidence seems a bit more clearcut, but, at the same time, I don't know of any arrests, and I don't know of these desecrations being claimed by: (1) White Nationalists, (2) Honest to God Nazis, (3) Isis, (4) Muslims, (5) black people. I guess that leaves Asians and Latinos? However, in all fairness, I would suggest that it is reasonable to be skeptical about these desecrations, until, of course, someone is actually arrested.

    There's a little bit of "Crying wolf" at play here. It's a certainty that there are a number of people who feel great hostility to Jews. It's also a certainty that Jewish people in general tend to be very alert to signs of such hatred. But it's very hard to tell how much of this is actual authentic anti-Semitic hate crimes and how much of it is hate hoax nonsense. Based on the arrest patterns so far, the preponderance of evidence is definitely in favor of hate hoaxes.

    Now one of my prior respondents made the good point that whenever you have a highly publicized vandalism, it can inspire the usual suspects to engage in copycat vandalism. That is true. It can also inspire copycat hate hoaxes, the black guy being the clearest proof of this.

    On balance, I would guess that anti-Semitism is about where it usually is, present, but not really that big a problem, but also not growing due to a lack of censorship by Amazon, YouTube, or Google, or due to Trump's election, or due to the absence of ever more stringent hate crimes laws.

    Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?

    Is ‘infinity’ a number? Because I always expect to discover a telltale triple-parentheses every time one of these silly ‘atrocities’ (spray-painted swastikas, tipped-over headstones, prank calls to Jewish community centers) hogs the local media coverage. And I’m usually correct.

    I’ve nearly gotten to the point where I’m seeing these marshmallow ‘hate crimes’ as a kind of Jewish comfort food; for the price of a can of spray paint, you can leaf through the local papers a day later and get that all-important ego-stroke of See How Important We Are! And How Feared!
    That’s a pretty good ROI…..

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  56. OT again

    One of the things (which went straight past me at the time) Mr Napolitano points out in his Unz post

    http://www.unz.com/anapolitano/did-obama-spy-on-trump/

    is that two days after Trump was inaugurated, the head of GCHQ in the UK suddenly and unexpectedly resigned after two years in post. His predecessors did five and seven years respectively.

    Also on Unz there’s a piece about the Brit chap who may be prosecuted for saying that Jewish people have too much power in the UK.

    http://www.unz.com/article/free-speech-jewish-activism-and-the-trial-of-jeremy-bedford-turner/

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  57. It will be interesting how this one turns out:

    “Fire razes North Dakota church owned by white supremacist to the ground”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fire-razes-north-dakota-church-115127061.html

    Compare the reaction with black churches burning.

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  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones
    This made me laugh.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/28/trump-appears-to-suggest-bomb-threats-against-jews-are-false-flags.html

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/23/the-slip-up-that-caught-the-jewish-center-bomb-caller.html

    Any danger of the Author of the first piece going back to his sources and asking them what they think now that they know trump was right?

    Outrage at the mere suggestion of the existence of the concept of a Jewish false flag is practically a genre unto itself:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/28/trump-is-reportedly-hinting-that-anti-semitic-incidents-are-false-flags-it-wouldnt-be-the-first-time/

    This post has been updated.

    To include this latest arrest? No dice.

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-trump-jewish-cemetery-desecration-20170303-story.html

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Jewish-groups-dismayed-by-Trumps-false-flag-suggestion-482872

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jews-anti-semitic-hate-crimes-false-flag-reverse-david-duke-kkk-ku-klux-klan-a7604801.html

    And more I’ve lost track of.

    Chelsea Clinton @ChelseaClinton

    This is sick. Antisemitism – with or without swastikas – is never funny, is never a joke, can never be painted as a facade. It is hate.

    Lucid Hurricane™✘ @Forever_Lucid
    [email protected] DYK anyone can spray paint a swastika and blame it on someone else to gain sympathy for yet someone else or themselves?

    http://www.timesunion.com/7dayarchive/article/Schenectady-man-accused-of-painting-swastikas-on-11016393.php

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    It's worth mentioning here that while Jewish people (understandably) have a historic distrust of the swastika, in the US the meaning of the symbol is much, much broader: it may refer to Jews, it may refer to general government policies (any reference Fascism or Hitler automatically generates swastikas), it may refer to blacks, LGBTQIA+, or any other minority group that believes they would have been targets in Nazi Germany, and so on.

    In other words, while a swastika on a Jewish guy's house is pretty obviously anti-Semitic (unless, as in this case, the guy did it himself; by the way, he's leaving it up, because "Love Wins"), things like the poo swastika and the one that was taped in Philadelphia with the guy with the wine glass watching aren't necessarily made with any consideration of Jews whatsoever.
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  59. Hilarious link to abcnews story has detail that father was arrested also for same crimes as the son?!

    Also there’s a nice pic of rabbis donating water to first reponders and another nice pic of a black security guard guarding a Jewish center.

    Get the message!

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=46323084

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    "The suspect's father has also been arrested for the same charges, an Israeli government official said."

    I am sure it was a bigger operation than just disturbed teenager. But I doubt we will hear more about it. I suspect (hope) the arrests came from exerted pressure by Sessions' DOJ that finally asserted itself to be on the side of Trump. We must keep in mind that 95% of DOJ's employees' political donations were for Democrats.
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  60. You sure this doesn’t make Israel look good-partially at the expense of American Jews ?

    I realize people here have a differentiation problem

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    I realize people here have a differentiation problem
     
    No, just you.
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  61. Inadvertently revealing vanity post on this story reveals so very, very much:

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3537524/posts

    The Danger of Jewish Self-Hatred

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  62. @Tiny Duck
    The fact that one source of anti-Semitic intimidation turns out to be a disturbed Israeli-Jewish teen doesn't mean that the current political atmosphere among certain extreme fringe groups, both in the United States and in Europe, has not become darkly threatening--against Jews, Moslems, refugees, sexual minorities, and other such vulnerable groups.

    It's much like the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing "patriot" and "white identity" types didn't mean that the immediate knee-jerk assumption that the culprits had to be Middle Eastern terrorists, not native born "militia" men, was totally nonsense. It was in the immediate circumstances simply wrong.

    Extremism has a number of sources, including disturbed, misled, and pathological individuals, but it finds justification and flourishes most in an atmosphere of fear, violence, conspiracy, and xenophobia. We are now undergoing such a period in our national history.

    TD, To Paraphrase Elizabeth Warren, “You didn’t write that.”

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  63. @Tiny Duck
    white racist executes Black Man

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-man-accused-murder-came-nyc-target-blacks-181346318.html


    Looks like white men need to be deported!

    TD, Google Beltway Sniper.

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  64. @Ivy
    Coming soon to a tax bill near you: funding for PTSD moms.

    Coincidentally, Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore are all losing population. Death spirals abound.

    Ivy, I know you mean people are leaving those cities voluntarily, but Chicago also lost almost 800 to murder,

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    White people up, black people down. Lots of Big 10 grads flocking to the north side of Chicago.
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  65. @Buzz Mohawk
    The Emperor had better put some clothes on. His circumcision is showing.

    You might not agree with Buzz Mohawk (I often don’t), but he’s posted here quite a few times, and he’s no troll.

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    Thank you.

    When a brief, smart-ass comment will sum up my hypothesis, I am likely to use it, because I am lazy and not as capable of constructing long arguments as others here.

    I have no enmity toward the International Jew. I agree with many of his insightful comments: For example, it seems clear to me that he agrees with me on the important, Trumpian issues.

    Early on in my time here, two or three years ago, he corrected me in a terrible error I had made. I was humbled. You see, I do listen, and I am not here to make enemies.

    However, I will not deny the truth that there exists an inordinate amount of influence, propaganda and "deep state" activity on the part of Zionists and anti-Gentiles in and toward MY country. Knowledge of and expression of this truth does not make me an anti-Semite, but I am painfully aware that even expressing this opinion is illegal in most parts of the civilized world now.

    Does this mean that this particular fact is the only significant thing making my own country an increasingly irritating place to live? No. I am not even especially interested in this topic.

    I live in, and am a lucky inheritor of, one of the very few places on Earth where Citizens can still, barely, tell the truth. That's all.

    , @International Jew
    Buzz is not himself a troll, but that one comment of his constitutes trolling IMO.
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  66. @San Fernando Curt
    You can almost hear disappointment squash hopeful paranoia like an accordion...

    From ADL's site:

    While the details of this crime remain unclear, the impact of this individual’s actions is crystal clear: These were acts of anti-Semitism. These threats targeted Jewish institutions, were calculated to sow fear and anxiety, and put the entire Jewish community on high alert.

    OK, but if that's true, does the suspect hate himself, too? Is this a case of international/electronic "cutting?" Could a new social malady be forming from the self-obsession ether before our very eyes? Or was the kid trying to prop up the "they're always out to get us" bonafides? ...Getting a little tattered of late.

    Even though it appears that the main culprit behind the majority of these attacks has allegedly been identified, anti-Semitism in the U.S. remains a very serious concern. No arrests have been made in three cemetery desecrations or a series of other anti-Semitic incidents involving swastika graffiti and hate fliers. JCCs and other institutions should not relax security measures or become less vigilant.

    Yeah. We know. Hitler's jumping out of the linen closet... forever.

    I'd be a lot more respectful if 1.) the ADL would go ahead and say out loud the suspect is Jewish - to the point of living in Israel, already. Also, lean off the "anti-Semitish is still everywhere!" button. Unless there's blood in the streets, there's no crisis. And none of the rest of us need be custodians of your extremely sensitive sensitivities.

    OK, but if that’s true, does the suspect hate himself, too? Is this a case of international/electronic “cutting?”

    Actually, that’s not totally impossible. This guy isn’t right in the head, obviously, and he could easily despise his own people. There have been quite a few Jewish anti-Semites.

    What were his real motives? Who knows. We may find out with time.

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    His attorney can hammer the ol' "cry for help" defense.
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  67. Well, sometimes it is the reverse!

    I admit I didn’t see this coming. I figured it was some hacker guy, but I assumed it was some alt-right 4chan type. Well, I was wrong. A few potential motivations:

    1. He wants American Jews to get scared and move to Israel. (Not that likely to work, but he probably is somewhat deranged to do what he did.)

    2. He hates Trump, and wants to make him look bad for ignoring antisemitism. Or mobilize American Jews against him.

    3. He likes Trump, and thought it could be pinned on a left-wing or Muslim group.

    Anyone else?

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    Were the phone threats (had the person who placed them remained undiscovered) good for the jews?

    If so, there's your motivation.

    For guidance in answering that question, consider whether jews tend to play up real and imagined hostility from Gentiles.

    The motivation need not be much different than the motivation behind the construction of dozens of Holocaust museums across the country and the dissemination of dozens of Hollywood Holocaust films and the annual retelling of various victimhood foundational myths.
    , @biz
    4) He's one of the extremely antisemitic, obsessive anti-Israel Jews, like Gilad Atzmon.
    , @anon

    He wants American Jews to get scared and move to Israel.
     
    shorter version: He wants Jews to be scared.

    evolved paranoia response -> if there's not enough anti-semitism then some Jews need to manufacture it or other Jews will get a false sense of security

    (on a Bell curve of course and with crazy people going about it in a crazy way)

    hence no brakes, self-perpetuating, self-fulfilling etc
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  68. @Anonymous
    Hilarious link to abcnews story has detail that father was arrested also for same crimes as the son?!

    Also there's a nice pic of rabbis donating water to first reponders and another nice pic of a black security guard guarding a Jewish center.

    Get the message!

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=46323084

    “The suspect’s father has also been arrested for the same charges, an Israeli government official said.”

    I am sure it was a bigger operation than just disturbed teenager. But I doubt we will hear more about it. I suspect (hope) the arrests came from exerted pressure by Sessions’ DOJ that finally asserted itself to be on the side of Trump. We must keep in mind that 95% of DOJ’s employees’ political donations were for Democrats.

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  69. @Steve Sailer
    Thanks, I'll post.
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  70. @SFG
    OK, but if that’s true, does the suspect hate himself, too? Is this a case of international/electronic “cutting?”

    Actually, that's not totally impossible. This guy isn't right in the head, obviously, and he could easily despise his own people. There have been quite a few Jewish anti-Semites.

    What were his real motives? Who knows. We may find out with time.

    His attorney can hammer the ol’ “cry for help” defense.

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  71. @Buffalo Joe
    Ivy, I know you mean people are leaving those cities voluntarily, but Chicago also lost almost 800 to murder,

    White people up, black people down. Lots of Big 10 grads flocking to the north side of Chicago.

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  72. Other possible motives:

    1) He is a pro-Zionist Israeli who wanted to encourage American Jews to make aliyah.

    True, he could simply be racist against whites to the point of total indifference. Sort of like how most racists operate. Is someone who doesn’t care about the 6m who died an “ANTI-SEMITE!!!”? Magic 8-Ball says “yes.”

    2) He is an anti-Zionist/anti-settlements Israeli who saw Trump as favorable to the settler movement and wanted to derail any American Jew/Trump alliance.

    So, living in the target-rich environment of Zion, he figured the best way to attack Zionists was to make threats against Jews in America, and let Whites take the fall.

    I suppose a sense of embarrassment or shame (say, for making “arguments” like the preceding) might help you guys avoid, well, lots of lachrymose Jewish history to come.

    3) He was thoroughly delusional and his motives were incoherent.

    His behavior seemed coherent enough.

    4) He’s just an angry 19 year old who wanted to break shit, and this was the prank he stumbled upon.

    Right. Who doesn’t think, in his teen years, of making headlines by stirring up ethnic animus via hacking, and letting another group take the fall for it?

    Hey, while we’re at it, why not 5) He wanted to get you guys to make insulting excuses, embarrass yourselves?

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    "He wanted to get you guys to make insulting excuses, embarrass yourselves?"

    Very good! But, you know, they do not understand the concept of embarrassment.
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  73. A more likely motivation (and remember we’re talking about a knucklehead here) is that he had a grand scheme to stir up panic among American Jews and thus induce them to come live in Israel. That’s my first guess.

    My second guess is that he was mostly in it for the technological challenge, and in addition had some grudge against a JCC somewhere.

    Malicious disregard (at a minimum) for non-Jewish White Americans seems to be the common thread in every explanation.

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  74. You sure this doesn’t make Israel look good-partially at the expense of American Jews ?

    I realize people here have a differentiation problem

    At the expense of American Jews?

    Why not just kill your parents and throw yourself on the mercy of the court because you’re an orphan, while you’re at it?

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  75. Never under estimate Steve-

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  76. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Berkeley law lecturer David Schraub wrote a few weeks ago: https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/837022132605444098

    Trump’s terrifying ‘false flag’ comments on anti-Semitism are no different in kind than talk of the Holocaust as a Zionist conspiracy or 9/11 as a Mossad covert op

    Today he writes:

    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/228149/yes-the-jew-who-called-in-bomb-threats-was-anti-semitic

    Yes, the Jew Who Called in Bomb Threats Was Anti-Semitic

    Being Jewish doesn’t immunize a person from being anti-Semitic. It just fuses their bigotry with betrayal.

    … The ADL was absolutely right when it said, in response to the arrest: “These were acts of anti-Semitism. These threats targeted Jewish institutions, were calculated to sow fear and anxiety, and put the entire Jewish community on high alert.” That he was Jewish is utterly irrelevant—if anything, this is a fantastic illustration of how Jews can commit anti-Semitic acts.

    Do they have a word for this kind of Talmudic chutzpah?

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    From his blog in January:

    In what appears to be a coordinated pattern, numerous Jewish Community Centers around the country were hit with bomb threats today.

    ... these things didn't happen until something changed in our political culture, and it's no mystery what that "something" is. The rise of Donald Trump's brand of rabid right-wing resentment threatens Jews a huge range of Americans of diverse backgrounds and heritages. There should be no illusion anymore that Jews will somehow be immune from the wave that's coming.
     

    But today, that the hoaxer was an Israeli Jew is "utterly irrelevant" he says.

    [Schaub's] research and teaching interests are in the areas of constitutional and anti-discrimination law, law and religion, and energy law. In particular, David’s research considers the non-legal effects of legal decisions, including how judicial rulings affect the social meaning of concepts such as “equality,” “due process”, and “discrimination”.
     
    , @Mr. Anon
    To paraphrase Clemenceau: Anti-semitism is too important to be left to the gentiles.
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  77. Trump’s stance/views on so many of these things is just so rational and clear that the left just cannot cope. Its funny as h*ll to watch them follow up the lies with even more blatant nonsense after nonsense.

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  78. @Anonymous
    Outrage at the mere suggestion of the existence of the concept of a Jewish false flag is practically a genre unto itself:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/28/trump-is-reportedly-hinting-that-anti-semitic-incidents-are-false-flags-it-wouldnt-be-the-first-time/


    This post has been updated.
     
    To include this latest arrest? No dice.

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-trump-jewish-cemetery-desecration-20170303-story.html

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Jewish-groups-dismayed-by-Trumps-false-flag-suggestion-482872

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jews-anti-semitic-hate-crimes-false-flag-reverse-david-duke-kkk-ku-klux-klan-a7604801.html

    And more I've lost track of.


    Chelsea Clinton @ChelseaClinton

    This is sick. Antisemitism - with or without swastikas - is never funny, is never a joke, can never be painted as a facade. It is hate.

    Lucid Hurricane™✘ @Forever_Lucid
    [email protected] DYK anyone can spray paint a swastika and blame it on someone else to gain sympathy for yet someone else or themselves?
     


     
    http://www.timesunion.com/7dayarchive/article/Schenectady-man-accused-of-painting-swastikas-on-11016393.php

    It’s worth mentioning here that while Jewish people (understandably) have a historic distrust of the swastika, in the US the meaning of the symbol is much, much broader: it may refer to Jews, it may refer to general government policies (any reference Fascism or Hitler automatically generates swastikas), it may refer to blacks, LGBTQIA+, or any other minority group that believes they would have been targets in Nazi Germany, and so on.

    In other words, while a swastika on a Jewish guy’s house is pretty obviously anti-Semitic (unless, as in this case, the guy did it himself; by the way, he’s leaving it up, because “Love Wins”), things like the poo swastika and the one that was taped in Philadelphia with the guy with the wine glass watching aren’t necessarily made with any consideration of Jews whatsoever.

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  79. Yes, the Jew Who Called in Bomb Threats Was Anti-Semitic

    Being Jewish doesn’t immunize a person from being anti-Semitic. It just fuses their bigotry with betrayal.

    … The ADL was absolutely right when it said, in response to the arrest: “These were acts of anti-Semitism. These threats targeted Jewish institutions, were calculated to sow fear and anxiety, and put the entire Jewish community on high alert.” That he was Jewish is utterly irrelevant—if anything, this is a fantastic illustration of how Jews can commit anti-Semitic acts.

    Tells a lie and outs himself in the same sentence; if it’s a fantastic illustration, then it isn’t utterly irrelevant.

    Of course, it’s always about the Jews. Deplorable Whites, the fall guy for this Jewish Agent Provocateur, are what’s utterly irrelevant.

    P.S., the left will have no gripe about his position that Jewishness is no bar to “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!”; these are the same folks who guffaw if you suggest that many leftist Whites are racist against Whites.

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  80. @International Jew

    Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?
     
    My Bayesian prior for this outcome was 25%. So I'm a little surprised, though hardly stunned.

    It'll be interesting to know what this guy's motivation was (and leave it to the Israeli police to find out; in Israel there's no right to remain silent).

    Embarrassing Trump would not be my first guess. First, because Trump is popular in Israel (probably more popular than he is in Idaho or Wyoming). Second, because this fellow lives in Ashkelon, which is kinda the Peoria of Israel — not rich in SJW types.

    A more likely motivation (and remember we're talking about a knucklehead here) is that he had a grand scheme to stir up panic among American Jews and thus induce them to come live in Israel. That's my first guess.

    My second guess is that he was mostly in it for the technological challenge, and in addition had some grudge against a JCC somewhere.

    Thanks for your insight.

    It is good to have one of the (((NESOHC))) here, despite the slings and arrows of some commentators, to clarify technical details of a people who, despite having lived among the goyim for millenia, are still quite inscrutable to them.

    This goy initially thought hurting Trump’s followers politically must have been the motive; given that the hacker holds dual US/Israeli citizenship, you are persuasive in your conjecture that he probably may be enthusiastic — clearly, too enthusiastic — to have American Jews migrate to the Promised Land.

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  81. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Berkeley law lecturer David Schraub wrote a few weeks ago: https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/837022132605444098

    Trump's terrifying 'false flag' comments on anti-Semitism are no different in kind than talk of the Holocaust as a Zionist conspiracy or 9/11 as a Mossad covert op
     
    Today he writes:

    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/228149/yes-the-jew-who-called-in-bomb-threats-was-anti-semitic


    Yes, the Jew Who Called in Bomb Threats Was Anti-Semitic

    Being Jewish doesn’t immunize a person from being anti-Semitic. It just fuses their bigotry with betrayal.

    ... The ADL was absolutely right when it said, in response to the arrest: “These were acts of anti-Semitism. These threats targeted Jewish institutions, were calculated to sow fear and anxiety, and put the entire Jewish community on high alert.” That he was Jewish is utterly irrelevant—if anything, this is a fantastic illustration of how Jews can commit anti-Semitic acts.
     

    Do they have a word for this kind of Talmudic chutzpah?

    From his blog in January:

    In what appears to be a coordinated pattern, numerous Jewish Community Centers around the country were hit with bomb threats today.

    … these things didn’t happen until something changed in our political culture, and it’s no mystery what that “something” is. The rise of Donald Trump’s brand of rabid right-wing resentment threatens Jews a huge range of Americans of diverse backgrounds and heritages. There should be no illusion anymore that Jews will somehow be immune from the wave that’s coming.

    But today, that the hoaxer was an Israeli Jew is “utterly irrelevant” he says.

    [Schaub's] research and teaching interests are in the areas of constitutional and anti-discrimination law, law and religion, and energy law. In particular, David’s research considers the non-legal effects of legal decisions, including how judicial rulings affect the social meaning of concepts such as “equality,” “due process”, and “discrimination”.

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  82. I bet Jewish birth rates go up the year after movies like Schindler’s List.

    Evolved paranoia.

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  83. How many real bombings were called in, in advance?

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    Perhaps ironically, the bombing of British Military Headquarters in Jerusalem in 1946 (known as the "King David Hotel Bombing") was called in advance by the Jewish militia which perpetrated it.

    Anyway, for what it may be worth, I am not particularly surprised by this development. It's very common for apparent hate crimes against Group X to be perpetrated by members of Group X. Probably a lot of "noose" incidents are perpetrated by blacks and a lot of the swastickas they are finding are put up by Jewish people.

    In this case, I just read that the main suspect's father was also arrested. Which makes it rather unlikely that it's just the work of a mentally ill person or teenage troll.

    Also of interest to me is that the main suspect is from Ashkelon. This is significant to me because Ashkelon is just a couple miles north of the edge of the Gaza strip so it's one of the main targets of Hamas rocket attacks. Probably there is a perception among a lot of people in Ashkelon that the rest of the world doesn't care all that much about their problems. Especially those Leftists in Tel Aviv 20 further miles to the north.

    So my guess about motivations is that it's a kind of "misery loves company" effort to get the world, including American Jews, to take their problems more seriously.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    According to Gavin de Becker, author of the excellent book The Gift of Fear, virtually NO actual bombings are preceded by bomb threats, the exception being some of the bombings carried out by the IRA.
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  84. @Buffalo Joe
    Great work, now if only he is also black and a Dem activist...Trifecta !

    Well, there was Juan Thompson earlier with some of the JCC threats. I think the combination is close enough to pay off on your trifecta.

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    res, Thank you . I am off to cash my bet. You could bet "Fake Hoax" on all of these hate crimes and Vegas would not take the bet.
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  85. @Svigor

    Other possible motives:

    1) He is a pro-Zionist Israeli who wanted to encourage American Jews to make aliyah.

     

    True, he could simply be racist against whites to the point of total indifference. Sort of like how most racists operate. Is someone who doesn't care about the 6m who died an "ANTI-SEMITE!!!"? Magic 8-Ball says "yes."

    2) He is an anti-Zionist/anti-settlements Israeli who saw Trump as favorable to the settler movement and wanted to derail any American Jew/Trump alliance.

     

    So, living in the target-rich environment of Zion, he figured the best way to attack Zionists was to make threats against Jews in America, and let Whites take the fall.

    I suppose a sense of embarrassment or shame (say, for making "arguments" like the preceding) might help you guys avoid, well, lots of lachrymose Jewish history to come.

    3) He was thoroughly delusional and his motives were incoherent.
     
    His behavior seemed coherent enough.

    4) He’s just an angry 19 year old who wanted to break shit, and this was the prank he stumbled upon.
     
    Right. Who doesn't think, in his teen years, of making headlines by stirring up ethnic animus via hacking, and letting another group take the fall for it?

    Hey, while we're at it, why not 5) He wanted to get you guys to make insulting excuses, embarrass yourselves?

    “He wanted to get you guys to make insulting excuses, embarrass yourselves?”

    Very good! But, you know, they do not understand the concept of embarrassment.

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  86. They are never going to let us go. Never. Just like they did the German people, they are going to grind us into the dust.

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  87. Trump wins another round of 5D chess.

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  88. @Tiny Duck
    The fact that one source of anti-Semitic intimidation turns out to be a disturbed Israeli-Jewish teen doesn't mean that the current political atmosphere among certain extreme fringe groups, both in the United States and in Europe, has not become darkly threatening--against Jews, Moslems, refugees, sexual minorities, and other such vulnerable groups.

    It's much like the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing "patriot" and "white identity" types didn't mean that the immediate knee-jerk assumption that the culprits had to be Middle Eastern terrorists, not native born "militia" men, was totally nonsense. It was in the immediate circumstances simply wrong.

    Extremism has a number of sources, including disturbed, misled, and pathological individuals, but it finds justification and flourishes most in an atmosphere of fear, violence, conspiracy, and xenophobia. We are now undergoing such a period in our national history.

    Who are you and what have you done with our Tiny Duck?

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    Hunsdon, Really. Where is our pet resident troll? The real TD is like your dog that you like even though he occasionally pees on your carpet. Well, TD actually pees on the carpet a lot.
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  89. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hyper-Semitism.

    Jews so hyper about pushing the Jewish Narrative that they lose all sense of balance and integrity. Come to think of it, this is how Hollywood works.

    Hyper-Semites see the world in the simple binary of Jewish Victims and Nazis. There is nothing in between. It’s either Anne Frank or Hitler.

    So far, we had the negro who once used to work at Intercept.

    A negro who turned a menorah into a swastika. (At least give him creativity points)

    And now this hyper-semite.

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  90. I don’t think people need to speculate too much about his motives. Some people are just natural marplots and Iagos. They just love stirring up trouble and being able to giggle over all the uproar they’ve caused. He’s probably a very spoiled little snot. I really doubt the ‘brain tumor’ affects this part of his behavior. I’m not so certain that his brain tumor excuse is real. It sounds like something a desperate lawyer has made up to get his client off the hook.

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  91. @SFG
    Well, sometimes it is the reverse!

    I admit I didn't see this coming. I figured it was some hacker guy, but I assumed it was some alt-right 4chan type. Well, I was wrong. A few potential motivations:

    1. He wants American Jews to get scared and move to Israel. (Not that likely to work, but he probably is somewhat deranged to do what he did.)

    2. He hates Trump, and wants to make him look bad for ignoring antisemitism. Or mobilize American Jews against him.

    3. He likes Trump, and thought it could be pinned on a left-wing or Muslim group.

    Anyone else?

    Were the phone threats (had the person who placed them remained undiscovered) good for the jews?

    If so, there’s your motivation.

    For guidance in answering that question, consider whether jews tend to play up real and imagined hostility from Gentiles.

    The motivation need not be much different than the motivation behind the construction of dozens of Holocaust museums across the country and the dissemination of dozens of Hollywood Holocaust films and the annual retelling of various victimhood foundational myths.

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  92. Antisemitism is necessary for jewish continuity in a desegregated United States and Europe.

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  93. @IHTG

    Israel’s Channel 10 TV showed footage of the suspect appearing in court in the central Israeli city of Rishon Letzion. He wore tan pants and a blue sweater that he used to cover his face as he walked past reporters. The channel said the young man had lived in the U.S. for a period of time and had been home-schooled. It showed images of a large antenna outside his house and said his father was also arrested.

    At the courthouse, the suspect’s lawyer, Galit Bash, told reporters that her client had a “very serious medical condition” that had kept him out of compulsory military service and might have affected his behavior.

    He “didn’t serve in the army, didn’t go to high school, didn’t go to elementary school,” she said. “So that’s why the medical condition can actually affect the investigation.” Channel 10 described the condition as a brain tumor.
     

    I suspect his motives may be similar to those of one Joshua Goldberg.

    Were the phone threats (had the person who placed them remained undiscovered) good for the jews?

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  94. @Tiny Duck
    The fact that one source of anti-Semitic intimidation turns out to be a disturbed Israeli-Jewish teen doesn't mean that the current political atmosphere among certain extreme fringe groups, both in the United States and in Europe, has not become darkly threatening--against Jews, Moslems, refugees, sexual minorities, and other such vulnerable groups.

    It's much like the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. Just because the bombers turned out to be right-wing "patriot" and "white identity" types didn't mean that the immediate knee-jerk assumption that the culprits had to be Middle Eastern terrorists, not native born "militia" men, was totally nonsense. It was in the immediate circumstances simply wrong.

    Extremism has a number of sources, including disturbed, misled, and pathological individuals, but it finds justification and flourishes most in an atmosphere of fear, violence, conspiracy, and xenophobia. We are now undergoing such a period in our national history.

    It is unsuprising that you are statistically illiterate. It is of a piece with your general stupidity.

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  95. @San Fernando Curt
    Invisible Cossacks ride again!!!!!

    Invisible Cossacks ride again!!!!!

    Those would be Jewish Cossacks.

    Being Jewish means that the world must be made safe from anti-Semitism, always, even from the anti-Semitism of other Jews.

    But, of course, not so “safe” that there is no blonde or Asian shiksa to date/marry.

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  96. @anony-mouse
    You sure this doesn't make Israel look good-partially at the expense of American Jews ?

    I realize people here have a differentiation problem

    I realize people here have a differentiation problem

    No, just you.

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  97. @Anonymous
    Berkeley law lecturer David Schraub wrote a few weeks ago: https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/837022132605444098

    Trump's terrifying 'false flag' comments on anti-Semitism are no different in kind than talk of the Holocaust as a Zionist conspiracy or 9/11 as a Mossad covert op
     
    Today he writes:

    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/228149/yes-the-jew-who-called-in-bomb-threats-was-anti-semitic


    Yes, the Jew Who Called in Bomb Threats Was Anti-Semitic

    Being Jewish doesn’t immunize a person from being anti-Semitic. It just fuses their bigotry with betrayal.

    ... The ADL was absolutely right when it said, in response to the arrest: “These were acts of anti-Semitism. These threats targeted Jewish institutions, were calculated to sow fear and anxiety, and put the entire Jewish community on high alert.” That he was Jewish is utterly irrelevant—if anything, this is a fantastic illustration of how Jews can commit anti-Semitic acts.
     

    Do they have a word for this kind of Talmudic chutzpah?

    To paraphrase Clemenceau: Anti-semitism is too important to be left to the gentiles.

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  98. How many blood libels by jews against Gentiles, compared to the reverse?

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  99. @Moshe
    I'm not ticked off by the comment at all.

    The whole trope about Trump dog whistling to anti-semites has always sounded insanely odd considering as how his daughter and son-in-law with whom he is very close are Orthodox Jews, as are his grandchildren from his daughter. How anyone could believe that he is a secret Kevin MacDonald is incredible to me.

    How anyone could believe that he is a secret Kevin MacDonald is incredible to me.

    That would have to be one of ISteve’s proverbial “triple bankshots”.

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  100. @IHTG

    Israel’s Channel 10 TV showed footage of the suspect appearing in court in the central Israeli city of Rishon Letzion. He wore tan pants and a blue sweater that he used to cover his face as he walked past reporters. The channel said the young man had lived in the U.S. for a period of time and had been home-schooled. It showed images of a large antenna outside his house and said his father was also arrested.

    At the courthouse, the suspect’s lawyer, Galit Bash, told reporters that her client had a “very serious medical condition” that had kept him out of compulsory military service and might have affected his behavior.

    He “didn’t serve in the army, didn’t go to high school, didn’t go to elementary school,” she said. “So that’s why the medical condition can actually affect the investigation.” Channel 10 described the condition as a brain tumor.
     

    I suspect his motives may be similar to those of one Joshua Goldberg.

    I guess you are assuming that his father was arrested for covering up the crime, or else he has the same mental condition.

    In any event, it’s funny how these mental illnesses always happen to make their Jewish victims conveniently do what Jews often do even without them (there were at least two other hate hoaxes in the last couple months, with a third being caused by wear and tear in the cemetery, which is a large majority of all solved “hate” incidents), and how they make their Muslim victims go on jihad. Never the other way around.

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    In any event, it’s funny how these mental illnesses always happen to make their Jewish victims conveniently do what Jews often do even without them.
     
    Jews like to promote a narrative of Gentile menace toward and persecution of them. From their early foundation myths to the present day. This incident falls well within that umbrella.
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  101. @Tiny Duck
    So what?

    Most crimes are committed by white males.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/nyregion/manhattan-nyc-james-harris-jackson-hate-crime.html?_r=2

    Trump voters already experiencing buyers remorse

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/22/new_quinnipiac_poll_shows_trump_s_numbers_sliding_60_percent_find_him_dishonest.html

    You guys should check out Leonard Pitts

    https://twitter.com/LeonardPittsJr1/status/841026979163959296

    That’s laughable, Tiny.

    Blacks, proportionate to their numbers, are by far the big time leaders in crime, violent crime, rapes, & murders.

    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    highlights:

    The evidence suggests that if there is police racial bias in arrests it is negligible. Victim and witness surveys show that police arrest violent criminals in close proportion to the rates at which criminals of different races commit violent crimes.

    There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups.

    In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.

    In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

    In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. For the crime of “shooting” — defined as firing a bullet that hits someone — a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely.

    If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.

    In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.

    In 2015, a black person was 2.45 times more likely than a white person to be shot and killed by the police. A Hispanic person was 1.21 times more likely.
    These figures are well within what would be expected given race differences in crime rates and likelihood to resist arrest.

    In 2015, police killings of blacks accounted for approximately 4 percent of homicides of blacks.
    Police killings of unarmed blacks accounted for approximately 0.6 percent of homicides of blacks.
    The overwhelming majority of black homicide victims (93 percent from 1980 to 2008) were killed by blacks.

    Both violent and non-violent crime has been declining in the United States since a high in 1993. 2015 saw a disturbing rise in murder in major American cities that some observers associated with “depolicing” in response to intense media and public scrutiny of police activity.

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  102. If played intelligently, this could actually work to discredit evil organizations like the ADL and Anne Frank centre. Or you guys could just spunk it by spamming some people on twitter with holocaust memes. Your call.

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    Lead the way.
    , @3g4me
    Your noble self sacrifice in carrying an ever-increasing weight on your shoulder is truly humbling.
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  103. @MW
    Other possible motives:

    1) He is a pro-Zionist Israeli who wanted to encourage American Jews to make aliyah.

    2) He is an anti-Zionist/anti-settlements Israeli who saw Trump as favorable to the settler movement and wanted to derail any American Jew/Trump alliance.

    3) He was thoroughly delusional and his motives were incoherent.

    4) He's just an angry 19 year old who wanted to break shit, and this was the prank he stumbled upon.

    1) …and didn’t care that white gentiles would take the fallout. Come to think about it, he didn’t mind it at all.

    2) …and did it in a way that caused harm to Trump and white gentile nationalism in general. Plausible.

    3) Let me guess: if he were a Muslim, the same delusions would cause him to go on jihad.

    4) Which accidentally caused harm to Trump and white gentile nationalism, . That must be it.

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    I only mean "delusions" in the sense of, you won't be able to reverse-engineer his motives because his understanding of the likely consequences is very different from yours or mine.

    This is not like jihad. There are a lot of people out there actively recruiting jihadis. If you tell a young man, this is the way to prove your courage, earn some glory, and do right by God and your people, that's going to resonate. Mr. Bomb Pranker, on the other hand, was not encouraged by anyone. No Jewish leader is out there encouraging false flag bomb pranks. It scared Jews and accomplished nothing.

    There's no real fallout for white gentiles here. Sure, it's obnoxious that prestigious elements of the media effectively accused innocent people, and now they aren't apologizing for it. But the only person going to jail for this is the actual perpetrator, and the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there. If white gentiles get guilt-tripped by any of this, that's on us.

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  104. @reiner Tor
    I guess you are assuming that his father was arrested for covering up the crime, or else he has the same mental condition.

    In any event, it's funny how these mental illnesses always happen to make their Jewish victims conveniently do what Jews often do even without them (there were at least two other hate hoaxes in the last couple months, with a third being caused by wear and tear in the cemetery, which is a large majority of all solved "hate" incidents), and how they make their Muslim victims go on jihad. Never the other way around.

    In any event, it’s funny how these mental illnesses always happen to make their Jewish victims conveniently do what Jews often do even without them.

    Jews like to promote a narrative of Gentile menace toward and persecution of them. From their early foundation myths to the present day. This incident falls well within that umbrella.

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  105. @Gabriel M
    If played intelligently, this could actually work to discredit evil organizations like the ADL and Anne Frank centre. Or you guys could just spunk it by spamming some people on twitter with holocaust memes. Your call.

    Lead the way.

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    I'm no superhero, but I'm pretty sure I've done more to combat Jewish establishment organizations than you ever will.
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  106. @Moshe
    Reiner Tor,

    It is extremely highly unlikely that he is a leftist. What you believe regarding his motives might be accurate from a Jewish nationalistic perspective where he wants to encourage Jews to move to Israel. It is however much much more likely that he was doing it for other reasons and cares very little about other Jews.

    As for the Jerusalem police chief not mentioning his name yet, and practically all civilized nations, other than our own of course, some effort, small or large, is put into not publicizing the name of someone arrested but not yet charged. One of the things that shocked the French with that whole business with whatever his name was and the maid from Guinea what is the guilty verdict in the eyes of the people before the courts even had a chance to look at it. In many ways comma America is far far less civilized than we would like to believe it is.

    Do you write comments by talking into your computer?

    In many ways comma America is far far less civilized than we would like to believe it is.

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  107. @Opinionator
    Lead the way.

    I’m no superhero, but I’m pretty sure I’ve done more to combat Jewish establishment organizations than you ever will.

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    Like what?
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  109. @KunioKun
    How many real bombings were called in, in advance?

    Perhaps ironically, the bombing of British Military Headquarters in Jerusalem in 1946 (known as the “King David Hotel Bombing”) was called in advance by the Jewish militia which perpetrated it.

    Anyway, for what it may be worth, I am not particularly surprised by this development. It’s very common for apparent hate crimes against Group X to be perpetrated by members of Group X. Probably a lot of “noose” incidents are perpetrated by blacks and a lot of the swastickas they are finding are put up by Jewish people.

    In this case, I just read that the main suspect’s father was also arrested. Which makes it rather unlikely that it’s just the work of a mentally ill person or teenage troll.

    Also of interest to me is that the main suspect is from Ashkelon. This is significant to me because Ashkelon is just a couple miles north of the edge of the Gaza strip so it’s one of the main targets of Hamas rocket attacks. Probably there is a perception among a lot of people in Ashkelon that the rest of the world doesn’t care all that much about their problems. Especially those Leftists in Tel Aviv 20 further miles to the north.

    So my guess about motivations is that it’s a kind of “misery loves company” effort to get the world, including American Jews, to take their problems more seriously.

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  110. @Moshe
    Reiner Tor,

    It is extremely highly unlikely that he is a leftist. What you believe regarding his motives might be accurate from a Jewish nationalistic perspective where he wants to encourage Jews to move to Israel. It is however much much more likely that he was doing it for other reasons and cares very little about other Jews.

    As for the Jerusalem police chief not mentioning his name yet, and practically all civilized nations, other than our own of course, some effort, small or large, is put into not publicizing the name of someone arrested but not yet charged. One of the things that shocked the French with that whole business with whatever his name was and the maid from Guinea what is the guilty verdict in the eyes of the people before the courts even had a chance to look at it. In many ways comma America is far far less civilized than we would like to believe it is.

    As for the Jerusalem police chief not mentioning his name yet, and practically all civilized nations, other than our own of course, some effort, small or large, is put into not publicizing the name of someone arrested but not yet charged.

    I agree with this practice (in my own country it’s done the same way), and I also agree it’s barbaric to name and publicly shame people whose culpability is far from proven in a court of law.

    It’s also essentially barbaric in the very same way to publicly libel Trump or his supporters without a shred of evidence, the way the ADL did. The ADL is not a very civilized organization.

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    I agree with this practice
     
    I meant the practice of not publicizing names of people arrested but not yet charged.
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  111. @Moshe
    Reiner Tor,

    It is extremely highly unlikely that he is a leftist. What you believe regarding his motives might be accurate from a Jewish nationalistic perspective where he wants to encourage Jews to move to Israel. It is however much much more likely that he was doing it for other reasons and cares very little about other Jews.

    As for the Jerusalem police chief not mentioning his name yet, and practically all civilized nations, other than our own of course, some effort, small or large, is put into not publicizing the name of someone arrested but not yet charged. One of the things that shocked the French with that whole business with whatever his name was and the maid from Guinea what is the guilty verdict in the eyes of the people before the courts even had a chance to look at it. In many ways comma America is far far less civilized than we would like to believe it is.

    It is extremely highly unlikely that he is a leftist.

    Leftist is not exactly what I wrote. Nationalists often think that other peoples’ nationalism is not so good for them. I think this is true of many peoples (e.g. inexplicably Hungarian nationalists often prefer Romanian non-nationalists over Romanian nationalists), and in my experience, it’s a widespread attitude among Jewish nationalists. In fact, many leftists are often Jewish nationalists who advocate leftism for gentiles.

    But even if his sole motive was to encourage Jews moving to Israel, he did it by putting white gentile nationalists in the worst possible light. He also was totally indifferent to the harm this might cause to white gentiles.

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  112. and in my experience, it’s a widespread attitude among Jewish nationalists.

    Your experience consisting of …. what?

    In fact, many leftists are often Jewish nationalists who advocate leftism for gentiles.

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.

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    Your experience consisting of …. what?
     
    Consisting of talking online to a few dozens of Jews on Hungary's largest (or then largest? I'm no longer present there) online forum, forum.index.hu. The Hungarian web's great advantage is that most participants (in the 00s, when I was active there) lived in Hungary, a lot in or around Budapest, so it was possible to organize huge meetups. It's therefore easy to know if handle X was actually called Z. Y., and actually lived here or there.

    Many Jewish commenters (perhaps a minority, but not a small minority, rather like a third or so) were totally indifferent to Israel (while usually leaning left in Hungarian or international matters), while the rest (while usually still leaning left in Hungarian or international matters) took the slightest criticism of Israel as a personal insult. You know, Israel is actually to the right of all European countries, even of present day Hungary (whether it's because of the Mizrahim or not is moot), so it's quite strange for someone to defend Israel against criticism of its human rights records while criticizing the Hungarian treatment of Gypsies. Actually, their reactions to any criticism of Israel resembled me to the more extreme Jobbik supporters' reactions to criticism of Hungary... So, they walked like Israeli nationalists, swam like Israeli nationalists, and talked like Israeli nationalists (including defending the settler movement, using scare quotes when discussing "Palestinians", etc.), to me, they were Israeli nationalists. While supporting leftism elsewhere (in Hungary, where they lived).

    Mind you, of the few Jews who I knew from elsewhere (the Fórum could be a self-selected minority) and to whom I talked about politics at all (altogether three people) also took any criticism of Israel quite personally. While also leaning quite left/liberal in Hungarian matters. (So, they were also in that group.)

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.
     
    Mátyás Eörsi, Péter Hack, János Gadó, Péter Szegő, Ágnes Heller, Endre Aczél, Tamás Mészáros, Péter Tasnádi, András Schiff, László Seres.

    I'd have a difficult time naming ten politically Jews who are not leftists (there are some), though I could probably name ten, I could also probably name ten who are leftists but are silent on Israel. I could probably name a handful who are actively anti-Israel.

    Outside Hungary I can cite you a number of surveys of American Jews who are totally leftists while "concerned" or "very much concerned" about the fate of Israel and totally opposed to cutting US aid to Israel no matter what. (They might not like the present Israeli government, though.) I know that Chuck Schumer is totally opposed to any restrictions on abortions, but he was fundraising for an organization doing counselling for Jewish women wanting to have abortions in Israel. He opposes such counselling for gentile women only, apparently. He supports the Israeli demand of accepting Israel as a "Jewish state", but isn't so understanding with people who demand that the US should be declared a "white state". (Same for the majority of American Jews.)

    But I spent a lot of time reading Hungarian leftist publications roughly 1994-2006, and I don't read nearly as much about US (or any other country's) domestic politics (OK, the Trump campaign was interesting), so it's difficult for me to describe the exact political positions of American Jews. You know, a Hungarian Jewish politician like Mátyás Eörsi didn't talk about Israel much. Occasionally, very rarely, he did. He was also active in Israeli matters as a member of the European Parliament. But you wouldn't know that if you didn't pay close attention, because most of his time was devoted to promoting liberalism for Hungarian gentiles.

    But I would describe American leftist Jews as preaching moderate nationalism for Israel, but totally anti-nationalistic for any other country. Of course, for the Israeli hard right that might not be enough, but for us gentiles even our "nationalist" leaders (like Orbán in Hungary) are nowhere near that. I've read a few surveys to make that educated guess.
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  113. @reiner Tor

    As for the Jerusalem police chief not mentioning his name yet, and practically all civilized nations, other than our own of course, some effort, small or large, is put into not publicizing the name of someone arrested but not yet charged.
     
    I agree with this practice (in my own country it's done the same way), and I also agree it's barbaric to name and publicly shame people whose culpability is far from proven in a court of law.

    It's also essentially barbaric in the very same way to publicly libel Trump or his supporters without a shred of evidence, the way the ADL did. The ADL is not a very civilized organization.

    I agree with this practice

    I meant the practice of not publicizing names of people arrested but not yet charged.

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  114. @International Jew

    Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?
     
    My Bayesian prior for this outcome was 25%. So I'm a little surprised, though hardly stunned.

    It'll be interesting to know what this guy's motivation was (and leave it to the Israeli police to find out; in Israel there's no right to remain silent).

    Embarrassing Trump would not be my first guess. First, because Trump is popular in Israel (probably more popular than he is in Idaho or Wyoming). Second, because this fellow lives in Ashkelon, which is kinda the Peoria of Israel — not rich in SJW types.

    A more likely motivation (and remember we're talking about a knucklehead here) is that he had a grand scheme to stir up panic among American Jews and thus induce them to come live in Israel. That's my first guess.

    My second guess is that he was mostly in it for the technological challenge, and in addition had some grudge against a JCC somewhere.

    He’s not a nationalist. Mellienial nationalists, especially those who are prone to doing crazy stuff, wear kippot even if they’re not personally religious, or/and, if they are mizrahi, have weird 80s post-punk haircuts.

    Judging by the pictures and the fact he’s from Ashkelon, I’m guessing Russian/Ukrainian, probably not halachically Jewish. It’s not impossible he is actually an anti-semite.

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  115. @International Jew

    Let’s be honest: On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised is anyone that this was done by a Jewish guy?
     
    My Bayesian prior for this outcome was 25%. So I'm a little surprised, though hardly stunned.

    It'll be interesting to know what this guy's motivation was (and leave it to the Israeli police to find out; in Israel there's no right to remain silent).

    Embarrassing Trump would not be my first guess. First, because Trump is popular in Israel (probably more popular than he is in Idaho or Wyoming). Second, because this fellow lives in Ashkelon, which is kinda the Peoria of Israel — not rich in SJW types.

    A more likely motivation (and remember we're talking about a knucklehead here) is that he had a grand scheme to stir up panic among American Jews and thus induce them to come live in Israel. That's my first guess.

    My second guess is that he was mostly in it for the technological challenge, and in addition had some grudge against a JCC somewhere.

    It’ll be interesting to know what this guy’s motivation was (and leave it to the Israeli police to find out; in Israel there’s no right to remain silent

    They’ll talk it out of him; no torture needed!

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  116. @SFG
    You might not agree with Buzz Mohawk (I often don't), but he's posted here quite a few times, and he's no troll.

    Thank you.

    When a brief, smart-ass comment will sum up my hypothesis, I am likely to use it, because I am lazy and not as capable of constructing long arguments as others here.

    I have no enmity toward the International Jew. I agree with many of his insightful comments: For example, it seems clear to me that he agrees with me on the important, Trumpian issues.

    Early on in my time here, two or three years ago, he corrected me in a terrible error I had made. I was humbled. You see, I do listen, and I am not here to make enemies.

    However, I will not deny the truth that there exists an inordinate amount of influence, propaganda and “deep state” activity on the part of Zionists and anti-Gentiles in and toward MY country. Knowledge of and expression of this truth does not make me an anti-Semite, but I am painfully aware that even expressing this opinion is illegal in most parts of the civilized world now.

    Does this mean that this particular fact is the only significant thing making my own country an increasingly irritating place to live? No. I am not even especially interested in this topic.

    I live in, and am a lucky inheritor of, one of the very few places on Earth where Citizens can still, barely, tell the truth. That’s all.

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  117. You missed the headline The Intercept and the subsequent edit after one of their precious diversity-hires was caught for sending the threats.

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  118. @KunioKun
    How many real bombings were called in, in advance?

    According to Gavin de Becker, author of the excellent book The Gift of Fear, virtually NO actual bombings are preceded by bomb threats, the exception being some of the bombings carried out by the IRA.

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  119. @SFG
    Well, sometimes it is the reverse!

    I admit I didn't see this coming. I figured it was some hacker guy, but I assumed it was some alt-right 4chan type. Well, I was wrong. A few potential motivations:

    1. He wants American Jews to get scared and move to Israel. (Not that likely to work, but he probably is somewhat deranged to do what he did.)

    2. He hates Trump, and wants to make him look bad for ignoring antisemitism. Or mobilize American Jews against him.

    3. He likes Trump, and thought it could be pinned on a left-wing or Muslim group.

    Anyone else?

    4) He’s one of the extremely antisemitic, obsessive anti-Israel Jews, like Gilad Atzmon.

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  120. @SFG
    You might not agree with Buzz Mohawk (I often don't), but he's posted here quite a few times, and he's no troll.

    Buzz is not himself a troll, but that one comment of his constitutes trolling IMO.

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    met·a·phor/ˈmedəˌfôr,ˈmedəˌfər/
    noun
    a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.

    "The Emperor had better put some clothes on. His circumcision is showing."
     


    hoax/hōks/
    noun
    a humorous or malicious deception.
    verb
    deceive with a hoax.

    JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli police on Thursday arrested a 19-year-old Israeli Jewish man as the primary suspect in a string of bomb threats targeting Jewish community centers and other institutions in the U.S., marking a potential breakthrough in the case after an international manhunt with the FBI.
     


    troll2/trōl/
    verb
    make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

    "Buzz is not himself a troll, but that one comment of his constitutes trolling IMO."
     

    In light of the givens above, how would anyone conclude that using a metaphor to describe the perpetrator of a hoax constitutes trolling?

    It really is terrible when people see and react nastily to things that do not exist -- things that they imagine and which they are predisposed to see -- such as hate, prejudice... and trolling.

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  121. MW says:
    @reiner Tor
    1) ...and didn't care that white gentiles would take the fallout. Come to think about it, he didn't mind it at all.

    2) ...and did it in a way that caused harm to Trump and white gentile nationalism in general. Plausible.

    3) Let me guess: if he were a Muslim, the same delusions would cause him to go on jihad.

    4) Which accidentally caused harm to Trump and white gentile nationalism, . That must be it.

    I only mean “delusions” in the sense of, you won’t be able to reverse-engineer his motives because his understanding of the likely consequences is very different from yours or mine.

    This is not like jihad. There are a lot of people out there actively recruiting jihadis. If you tell a young man, this is the way to prove your courage, earn some glory, and do right by God and your people, that’s going to resonate. Mr. Bomb Pranker, on the other hand, was not encouraged by anyone. No Jewish leader is out there encouraging false flag bomb pranks. It scared Jews and accomplished nothing.

    There’s no real fallout for white gentiles here. Sure, it’s obnoxious that prestigious elements of the media effectively accused innocent people, and now they aren’t apologizing for it. But the only person going to jail for this is the actual perpetrator, and the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there. If white gentiles get guilt-tripped by any of this, that’s on us.

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    "...the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there..."

    So back in the days when jew haters spread false stories about jews poisoning the wells, using christian blood in matzos, etc., I guess the main harm was to gentiles who were legitimately scared by these stories?
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  122. @MW
    I only mean "delusions" in the sense of, you won't be able to reverse-engineer his motives because his understanding of the likely consequences is very different from yours or mine.

    This is not like jihad. There are a lot of people out there actively recruiting jihadis. If you tell a young man, this is the way to prove your courage, earn some glory, and do right by God and your people, that's going to resonate. Mr. Bomb Pranker, on the other hand, was not encouraged by anyone. No Jewish leader is out there encouraging false flag bomb pranks. It scared Jews and accomplished nothing.

    There's no real fallout for white gentiles here. Sure, it's obnoxious that prestigious elements of the media effectively accused innocent people, and now they aren't apologizing for it. But the only person going to jail for this is the actual perpetrator, and the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there. If white gentiles get guilt-tripped by any of this, that's on us.

    “…the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there…”

    So back in the days when jew haters spread false stories about jews poisoning the wells, using christian blood in matzos, etc., I guess the main harm was to gentiles who were legitimately scared by these stories?

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    Come on, this is simple stuff. There are two components: The libel itself, and the response to the libel. And then you judge them on a case-by-case basis. What was the impact of the libel? What was the nature of the backlash?

    In the fairy-tale version of well-poisoning Jews (did any of this actually happen?), the locals came around and killed or imprisoned or tortured a bunch of innocent Jews. So that's no good.

    In the case of the JCC bomb pranker ... there simply isn't any comparable backlash. Jews didn't round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats.
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  123. @reiner Tor

    Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld described the suspect as a hacker, but said his motives were still unclear.
     
    I will tell his motives to Mr. Rosenfeld for free.

    He perfectly knew that white gentile nationalists (a.k.a. Trump supporters) would be blamed. From that it follows that he wanted to harm them and the president they just elected.

    In short, his motives were to harm Trump and white gentile nationalism in general, by creating a kind of blood libel against white gentiles.

    What really matters is that Bibi digs Trump.
    Hopefully, Trump digs Bibi as well

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  124. @res
    Well, there was Juan Thompson earlier with some of the JCC threats. I think the combination is close enough to pay off on your trifecta.

    res, Thank you . I am off to cash my bet. You could bet “Fake Hoax” on all of these hate crimes and Vegas would not take the bet.

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  125. MW says:
    @vinteuil
    "...the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there..."

    So back in the days when jew haters spread false stories about jews poisoning the wells, using christian blood in matzos, etc., I guess the main harm was to gentiles who were legitimately scared by these stories?

    Come on, this is simple stuff. There are two components: The libel itself, and the response to the libel. And then you judge them on a case-by-case basis. What was the impact of the libel? What was the nature of the backlash?

    In the fairy-tale version of well-poisoning Jews (did any of this actually happen?), the locals came around and killed or imprisoned or tortured a bunch of innocent Jews. So that’s no good.

    In the case of the JCC bomb pranker … there simply isn’t any comparable backlash. Jews didn’t round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats.

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    In the fairy-tale version of well-poisoning Jews (did any of this actually happen?), the locals came around and killed or imprisoned or tortured a bunch of innocent Jews. So that’s no good.
     
    If it happened I doubt it was deliberate but if Jewish enclaves maintained their own internal law then the bodies would have to go somewhere.

    It's like the eating babies thing - someone peeking through a window and seeing a rabbi doing the teeth circumcision thing could quite easily imagine they were eating it.

    In the case of the JCC bomb pranker … there simply isn’t any comparable backlash. Jews didn’t round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats.
     
    These hate hoaxes are used as part of a campaign to dispossess Eurowhites of a homeland, everywhere and permanently.
    , @vinteuil
    "In the case of the JCC bomb pranker … there simply isn’t any comparable backlash. Jews didn’t round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats."

    Agreed. This is, after all, the current year. The Powers That Be do things differently, now.

    They don't round people up, or (physically) beat them up.

    They just use their insanely inflated position atop the commanding heights of American culture to destroy or marginalize anybody they dislike. Up to and including their righteous co-ethnics, like Paul Gottfried.

    It's all so civilized.
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  126. @Hunsdon
    Who are you and what have you done with our Tiny Duck?

    Hunsdon, Really. Where is our pet resident troll? The real TD is like your dog that you like even though he occasionally pees on your carpet. Well, TD actually pees on the carpet a lot.

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  127. @Gabriel M
    I'm no superhero, but I'm pretty sure I've done more to combat Jewish establishment organizations than you ever will.

    Like what?

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  128. @Opinionator
    Why would the police have banned publication of his name?

    He has a Muslim name.

    Senior police know future promotion depends on adherence to PC.

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    He has a Muslim name.

    Senior police know future promotion depends on adherence to PC.


    That's the way it works in Israel, eh?
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  129. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SFG
    Well, sometimes it is the reverse!

    I admit I didn't see this coming. I figured it was some hacker guy, but I assumed it was some alt-right 4chan type. Well, I was wrong. A few potential motivations:

    1. He wants American Jews to get scared and move to Israel. (Not that likely to work, but he probably is somewhat deranged to do what he did.)

    2. He hates Trump, and wants to make him look bad for ignoring antisemitism. Or mobilize American Jews against him.

    3. He likes Trump, and thought it could be pinned on a left-wing or Muslim group.

    Anyone else?

    He wants American Jews to get scared and move to Israel.

    shorter version: He wants Jews to be scared.

    evolved paranoia response -> if there’s not enough anti-semitism then some Jews need to manufacture it or other Jews will get a false sense of security

    (on a Bell curve of course and with crazy people going about it in a crazy way)

    hence no brakes, self-perpetuating, self-fulfilling etc

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  130. @International Jew
    Buzz is not himself a troll, but that one comment of his constitutes trolling IMO.

    met·a·phor/ˈmedəˌfôr,ˈmedəˌfər/
    noun
    a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.

    “The Emperor had better put some clothes on. His circumcision is showing.”

    hoax/hōks/
    noun
    a humorous or malicious deception.
    verb
    deceive with a hoax.

    JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli police on Thursday arrested a 19-year-old Israeli Jewish man as the primary suspect in a string of bomb threats targeting Jewish community centers and other institutions in the U.S., marking a potential breakthrough in the case after an international manhunt with the FBI.

    troll2/trōl/
    verb
    make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

    “Buzz is not himself a troll, but that one comment of his constitutes trolling IMO.”

    In light of the givens above, how would anyone conclude that using a metaphor to describe the perpetrator of a hoax constitutes trolling?

    It really is terrible when people see and react nastily to things that do not exist — things that they imagine and which they are predisposed to see — such as hate, prejudice… and trolling.

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  131. @anon
    He has a Muslim name.

    Senior police know future promotion depends on adherence to PC.

    He has a Muslim name.

    Senior police know future promotion depends on adherence to PC.

    That’s the way it works in Israel, eh?

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    ah yes - wrong thread - meant the UK guy
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  132. @Gabriel M
    If played intelligently, this could actually work to discredit evil organizations like the ADL and Anne Frank centre. Or you guys could just spunk it by spamming some people on twitter with holocaust memes. Your call.

    Your noble self sacrifice in carrying an ever-increasing weight on your shoulder is truly humbling.

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  133. I Blame Trump

    As well you should!

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  134. I don’t think people need to speculate too much about his motives. Some people are just natural marplots and Iagos. They just love stirring up trouble and being able to giggle over all the uproar they’ve caused. He’s probably a very spoiled little snot.

    Conveniently strategic Jewish behavior, from the spoiled little snot.

    That would have to be one of ISteve’s proverbial “triple bankshots”.

    If anything, Trump is more like the phony Jewish guy in Snatch, Doug the Head. Not the pretending or wanting to be Jewish part, so much as just having long moved and worked in a Jewish milieu; consider the scene where Doug tells the Jewish snots on his stoop to “fuck off.”

    In any event, it’s funny how these mental illnesses always happen to make their Jewish victims conveniently do what Jews often do even without them

    That’s what I’ve been trying to say, thank you.

    Anyway, for what it may be worth, I am not particularly surprised by this development. It’s very common for apparent hate crimes against Group X to be perpetrated by members of Group X. Probably a lot of “noose” incidents are perpetrated by blacks and a lot of the swastickas they are finding are put up by Jewish people.

    With how attuned the society is to persecution of said group being the x factor. Meaning, Whites of American founding stock, not so much.

    In fact, many leftists are often Jewish nationalists who advocate leftism for gentiles.

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.

    It would make more sense to name 10 Jews who aren’t, but:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_journalists

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Americans

    You can quibble over individual names, of course, and pick out the non- or anti-Zionists, non-leftists, and “ANTI-SEMITES!!!” But the rest should serve as a good start.

    There’s no real fallout for white gentiles here.

    What’s one more stick on the fire, after all.

    But the only person going to jail for this is the actual perpetrator, and the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there. If white gentiles get guilt-tripped by any of this, that’s on us.

    Funny, The (heavily Jewish) Narrative sure has a lot of room for the harm done by Whites’ perceptions of Jews and non-Whites.

    Or, to put it more persuasively:

    So back in the days when jew haters spread false stories about jews poisoning the wells, using christian blood in matzos, etc., I guess the main harm was to gentiles who were legitimately scared by these stories?

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    So back in the days when jew haters spread false stories about jews poisoning the wells, using christian blood in matzos, etc., I guess the main harm was to gentiles who were legitimately scared by these stories?
     
    Yes, telling your Christian child that Jews might abduct him to use his blood for baking is definitely a form of child-abuse. Nevertheless, the reason why we say Jews suffered more from the blood libel is because periodically the Christian would beat the living shit out of Jews over it.

    In this case, hundreds of Jewish children had to be evacuated from their school because they thought it was going to be blown up. Yeah, it's not the end of the world, and yeah filth organisations like the ADL certainly exploited it, but it's characteristic of the self-pitying nature of WNs, that they think they are the big victims in all this.
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  135. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @MW
    Come on, this is simple stuff. There are two components: The libel itself, and the response to the libel. And then you judge them on a case-by-case basis. What was the impact of the libel? What was the nature of the backlash?

    In the fairy-tale version of well-poisoning Jews (did any of this actually happen?), the locals came around and killed or imprisoned or tortured a bunch of innocent Jews. So that's no good.

    In the case of the JCC bomb pranker ... there simply isn't any comparable backlash. Jews didn't round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats.

    In the fairy-tale version of well-poisoning Jews (did any of this actually happen?), the locals came around and killed or imprisoned or tortured a bunch of innocent Jews. So that’s no good.

    If it happened I doubt it was deliberate but if Jewish enclaves maintained their own internal law then the bodies would have to go somewhere.

    It’s like the eating babies thing – someone peeking through a window and seeing a rabbi doing the teeth circumcision thing could quite easily imagine they were eating it.

    In the case of the JCC bomb pranker … there simply isn’t any comparable backlash. Jews didn’t round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats.

    These hate hoaxes are used as part of a campaign to dispossess Eurowhites of a homeland, everywhere and permanently.

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  136. @Opinionator
    He has a Muslim name.

    Senior police know future promotion depends on adherence to PC.


    That's the way it works in Israel, eh?

    ah yes – wrong thread – meant the UK guy

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  137. @MW
    Come on, this is simple stuff. There are two components: The libel itself, and the response to the libel. And then you judge them on a case-by-case basis. What was the impact of the libel? What was the nature of the backlash?

    In the fairy-tale version of well-poisoning Jews (did any of this actually happen?), the locals came around and killed or imprisoned or tortured a bunch of innocent Jews. So that's no good.

    In the case of the JCC bomb pranker ... there simply isn't any comparable backlash. Jews didn't round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats.

    “In the case of the JCC bomb pranker … there simply isn’t any comparable backlash. Jews didn’t round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats.”

    Agreed. This is, after all, the current year. The Powers That Be do things differently, now.

    They don’t round people up, or (physically) beat them up.

    They just use their insanely inflated position atop the commanding heights of American culture to destroy or marginalize anybody they dislike. Up to and including their righteous co-ethnics, like Paul Gottfried.

    It’s all so civilized.

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    Various journalists and pundits basically blamed the bomb threats on, well, people like me. The more respectable ones didn't quite come out and say it, but they certainly intended to leave that impression. And now that they are proven wrong, there are no consequences, and they clearly aren't sorry. I'm not trying to defend any of that, I'd love to see them all rot in a hole. But I don't think the answer is to libel others in return.

    OP was speculating about the bomb pranker's motives, apparently on the assumption that all Jews are some flavor of genocidal ethnic supremacists. When you can convince yourself that a Jew who makes bomb threats to Jewish organizations, then gets arrested by other Jews, is somehow furthering the banner of Jewish supremacism, without even hearing the bomber's explanation for his actions, then I don't think you're particularly committed to living in reality.
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  138. When French Rabbi perpetrated anti-Semitic hoax attack by stabbing himself French Jews were angry:

    “For two years we have been screaming about the attacks against us and the rise of anti-Semitism in France. If, God forbid, it turns out that the stabbing was staged, not just Rabbi Farhi is in trouble, all the Jews are in trouble. Who will take us seriously? And that is without even mentioning the enormous shame caused by the thought that four former prime ministers took the trouble to support the rabbi and the Jewish community. What will we do now? Apologize to them?”
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    http://www.haaretz.com/french-jews-stunned-by-claims-that-rabbi-faked-own-stabbing-1.21246

    I do not see similar reasonable and decent reaction in the current case. Not even a pretense.

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    How did American Jews respond to it is perfectly illustrated by headline of Forward articles:

    February 28, 2017: Trump Reportedly Said JCC Threats May Be Trying To ‘Make Others Look Bad’

    March 6, 2017: Why Trump’s ‘False Flag’ Comment About Jews And Anti-Semitism Is So Dangerous


    March 22, 2017: White Nationalists And ‘Alt-Right’ Celebrate Arrest Of Jew For Bomb Threats

    The last article is just about David Duke.
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  139. @utu
    When French Rabbi perpetrated anti-Semitic hoax attack by stabbing himself French Jews were angry:

    "For two years we have been screaming about the attacks against us and the rise of anti-Semitism in France. If, God forbid, it turns out that the stabbing was staged, not just Rabbi Farhi is in trouble, all the Jews are in trouble. Who will take us seriously? And that is without even mentioning the enormous shame caused by the thought that four former prime ministers took the trouble to support the rabbi and the Jewish community. What will we do now? Apologize to them?"
    read more:
     
    http://www.haaretz.com/french-jews-stunned-by-claims-that-rabbi-faked-own-stabbing-1.21246

    I do not see similar reasonable and decent reaction in the current case. Not even a pretense.

    How did American Jews respond to it is perfectly illustrated by headline of Forward articles:

    February 28, 2017: Trump Reportedly Said JCC Threats May Be Trying To ‘Make Others Look Bad’

    March 6, 2017: Why Trump’s ‘False Flag’ Comment About Jews And Anti-Semitism Is So Dangerous

    March 22, 2017: White Nationalists And ‘Alt-Right’ Celebrate Arrest Of Jew For Bomb Threats

    The last article is just about David Duke.

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  140. MW says:
    @vinteuil
    "In the case of the JCC bomb pranker … there simply isn’t any comparable backlash. Jews didn’t round up any innocent gentiles on suspicion of calling in bomb threats."

    Agreed. This is, after all, the current year. The Powers That Be do things differently, now.

    They don't round people up, or (physically) beat them up.

    They just use their insanely inflated position atop the commanding heights of American culture to destroy or marginalize anybody they dislike. Up to and including their righteous co-ethnics, like Paul Gottfried.

    It's all so civilized.

    Various journalists and pundits basically blamed the bomb threats on, well, people like me. The more respectable ones didn’t quite come out and say it, but they certainly intended to leave that impression. And now that they are proven wrong, there are no consequences, and they clearly aren’t sorry. I’m not trying to defend any of that, I’d love to see them all rot in a hole. But I don’t think the answer is to libel others in return.

    OP was speculating about the bomb pranker’s motives, apparently on the assumption that all Jews are some flavor of genocidal ethnic supremacists. When you can convince yourself that a Jew who makes bomb threats to Jewish organizations, then gets arrested by other Jews, is somehow furthering the banner of Jewish supremacism, without even hearing the bomber’s explanation for his actions, then I don’t think you’re particularly committed to living in reality.

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  141. @Gabriel M

    and in my experience, it’s a widespread attitude among Jewish nationalists.
     
    Your experience consisting of .... what?

    In fact, many leftists are often Jewish nationalists who advocate leftism for gentiles.
     
    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.

    Your experience consisting of …. what?

    Consisting of talking online to a few dozens of Jews on Hungary’s largest (or then largest? I’m no longer present there) online forum, forum.index.hu. The Hungarian web’s great advantage is that most participants (in the 00s, when I was active there) lived in Hungary, a lot in or around Budapest, so it was possible to organize huge meetups. It’s therefore easy to know if handle X was actually called Z. Y., and actually lived here or there.

    Many Jewish commenters (perhaps a minority, but not a small minority, rather like a third or so) were totally indifferent to Israel (while usually leaning left in Hungarian or international matters), while the rest (while usually still leaning left in Hungarian or international matters) took the slightest criticism of Israel as a personal insult. You know, Israel is actually to the right of all European countries, even of present day Hungary (whether it’s because of the Mizrahim or not is moot), so it’s quite strange for someone to defend Israel against criticism of its human rights records while criticizing the Hungarian treatment of Gypsies. Actually, their reactions to any criticism of Israel resembled me to the more extreme Jobbik supporters’ reactions to criticism of Hungary… So, they walked like Israeli nationalists, swam like Israeli nationalists, and talked like Israeli nationalists (including defending the settler movement, using scare quotes when discussing “Palestinians”, etc.), to me, they were Israeli nationalists. While supporting leftism elsewhere (in Hungary, where they lived).

    Mind you, of the few Jews who I knew from elsewhere (the Fórum could be a self-selected minority) and to whom I talked about politics at all (altogether three people) also took any criticism of Israel quite personally. While also leaning quite left/liberal in Hungarian matters. (So, they were also in that group.)

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.

    Mátyás Eörsi, Péter Hack, János Gadó, Péter Szegő, Ágnes Heller, Endre Aczél, Tamás Mészáros, Péter Tasnádi, András Schiff, László Seres.

    I’d have a difficult time naming ten politically Jews who are not leftists (there are some), though I could probably name ten, I could also probably name ten who are leftists but are silent on Israel. I could probably name a handful who are actively anti-Israel.

    Outside Hungary I can cite you a number of surveys of American Jews who are totally leftists while “concerned” or “very much concerned” about the fate of Israel and totally opposed to cutting US aid to Israel no matter what. (They might not like the present Israeli government, though.) I know that Chuck Schumer is totally opposed to any restrictions on abortions, but he was fundraising for an organization doing counselling for Jewish women wanting to have abortions in Israel. He opposes such counselling for gentile women only, apparently. He supports the Israeli demand of accepting Israel as a “Jewish state”, but isn’t so understanding with people who demand that the US should be declared a “white state”. (Same for the majority of American Jews.)

    But I spent a lot of time reading Hungarian leftist publications roughly 1994-2006, and I don’t read nearly as much about US (or any other country’s) domestic politics (OK, the Trump campaign was interesting), so it’s difficult for me to describe the exact political positions of American Jews. You know, a Hungarian Jewish politician like Mátyás Eörsi didn’t talk about Israel much. Occasionally, very rarely, he did. He was also active in Israeli matters as a member of the European Parliament. But you wouldn’t know that if you didn’t pay close attention, because most of his time was devoted to promoting liberalism for Hungarian gentiles.

    But I would describe American leftist Jews as preaching moderate nationalism for Israel, but totally anti-nationalistic for any other country. Of course, for the Israeli hard right that might not be enough, but for us gentiles even our “nationalist” leaders (like Orbán in Hungary) are nowhere near that. I’ve read a few surveys to make that educated guess.

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    Those meetups of commenters on forum.index.hu were great. Imagine all of us having dinner together, with people like Svigor and Jack D clinking their glasses with kosher slivovica (a strong spirit distilled from prunes), etc. People usually feel a certain camaraderie both with online friends and opponents. Of course, usually people on the same side talk more to each other, but at least there's some socializing between the sides.

    I'd really like one such meetup with commenters here, though of course I know it's basically impossible.
    , @reiner Tor
    Also, my perception might be somewhat skewed by being Hungarian. In Hungary, the "left" (including usually the successor party to the former communist party) often take neocon lines - including even privatizing healthcare and pensions (for the middle class, but with a lot of gibmedats to Gypsies) while supporting any US military adventure in the world, as well as being staunchly pro-Israel. The nationalist right is usually more skeptical of both the US (whose ambassadors occasionally berate Hungarians for their supposed racism and anti-Semitism) or Israel (whose ambassadors criticize these same things). (It doesn't seem to matter for either the US or Israeli ambassadors whether their respective governments at home are nominally leftists or rightists - we'll see how it'll work out with Trump.) Also, Orbán seems to understand he needs some Jews on his side, and I think as a nationalist he can find a higher common denominator with a Netanyahu than with an Obama or even with a Dubya. I mean, you can understand Netanyahu's motivations (perhaps even when he criticizes European nationalists like Haider or even Trump, or his ambassador even criticized Orbán), but how can you understand what motivates a Hillary Clinton? OK, she wants power, but other than that. Hatred for her own country?
    , @Gabriel M
    There are 10,968 Jews in Hungary. I know nothing about Hungary and I trust that what you say is true, but it is not a statistically significant sample. I've never heard any of the people you mention, but I'll admit I wonder how many of them are actually Jewish-Jewish. Someone here once named an important Swedish media/political family as being Jewish and, when I googled them, the first member who came up was a bishop. I'm willing to take the blame for bad things Jews do, but not anyone with a Jewish grandfather.

    You know, Israel is actually to the right of all European countries, even of present day Hungary
     
    This comes to the nub of the issue. You've written a few times about how you feel frustrated when you hear people holding up Hungary as an example of successful nationalism, when really Orban is kind of a pussy. That's how I feel about Israel. Example: a few months ago a construction worker from a village nearby ran over some off-duty soldiers with his JCB at a popular sightseeing spot (the Hass promenade). That village had an all-night party, including launching fireworks into our neighborhood. That Friday, I head the imam give his sermon, as usual, over loudspeaker. This time, though, it was so loud I could hear it even with the windows closed. My Arabic is sub-remedial, but I know the word "Jews" well enough. The next week the locals organised a memorial service: it was all about peace, and harmony. They made a banner with a dove . I could cite examples all night. Israel is a faggy lefty country, made slightly less faggy by the fact that its enemies can't even be bothered to pretend not to want to slaughter everyone in it.

    I've only visited Hungary for a couple of days, but I found the culture there to be a lot more nationalist than Israel (which in turn is a lot more nationalist than Britain).

    I know that Chuck Schumer is totally opposed to any restrictions on abortions, but he was fundraising for an organization doing counselling for Jewish women wanting to have abortions in Israel. He opposes such counselling for gentile women only, apparently. He supports the Israeli demand of accepting Israel as a “Jewish state”, but isn’t so understanding with people who demand that the US should be declared a “white state”.
     
    Chuck Schumer is on the upper end of the hypocrisy spectrum, but there's not really a parallel between Israel as a Jewish state and America as a white state. You could make a parallel between Israel being a Jewish state and France being a French state. Also Efrat, the organisation he was fundraising for, is a faggy lefty organisation, and Israel's abortion laws are sickeningly liberal.

    But I would describe American leftist Jews as preaching moderate nationalism for Israel, but totally anti-nationalistic for any other country.
     
    American liberal Jews say they love America, and advocate policies that are bad for Americans; they say they love Israelis and advocate policies that are bad for Israelis. The whole double standards claim is based upon obsessing over details, but even so it's not really conclusive. If American Jews get their way in America, whites will have a hard time, but they'll survive. If they get their way on Israel, we're finished.

    My personal experience is that Jews usually have opinions on Israel slightly to the right of their opinions on other stuff. Sometimes I have been able to leverage their hypocrisy to change their opinions on the other stuff, but it doesn't really achieve much. Maybe they will move from voting Conservative, to .... still voting Conservative, but kind of wanting to vote UKIP.
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  142. @reiner Tor

    Your experience consisting of …. what?
     
    Consisting of talking online to a few dozens of Jews on Hungary's largest (or then largest? I'm no longer present there) online forum, forum.index.hu. The Hungarian web's great advantage is that most participants (in the 00s, when I was active there) lived in Hungary, a lot in or around Budapest, so it was possible to organize huge meetups. It's therefore easy to know if handle X was actually called Z. Y., and actually lived here or there.

    Many Jewish commenters (perhaps a minority, but not a small minority, rather like a third or so) were totally indifferent to Israel (while usually leaning left in Hungarian or international matters), while the rest (while usually still leaning left in Hungarian or international matters) took the slightest criticism of Israel as a personal insult. You know, Israel is actually to the right of all European countries, even of present day Hungary (whether it's because of the Mizrahim or not is moot), so it's quite strange for someone to defend Israel against criticism of its human rights records while criticizing the Hungarian treatment of Gypsies. Actually, their reactions to any criticism of Israel resembled me to the more extreme Jobbik supporters' reactions to criticism of Hungary... So, they walked like Israeli nationalists, swam like Israeli nationalists, and talked like Israeli nationalists (including defending the settler movement, using scare quotes when discussing "Palestinians", etc.), to me, they were Israeli nationalists. While supporting leftism elsewhere (in Hungary, where they lived).

    Mind you, of the few Jews who I knew from elsewhere (the Fórum could be a self-selected minority) and to whom I talked about politics at all (altogether three people) also took any criticism of Israel quite personally. While also leaning quite left/liberal in Hungarian matters. (So, they were also in that group.)

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.
     
    Mátyás Eörsi, Péter Hack, János Gadó, Péter Szegő, Ágnes Heller, Endre Aczél, Tamás Mészáros, Péter Tasnádi, András Schiff, László Seres.

    I'd have a difficult time naming ten politically Jews who are not leftists (there are some), though I could probably name ten, I could also probably name ten who are leftists but are silent on Israel. I could probably name a handful who are actively anti-Israel.

    Outside Hungary I can cite you a number of surveys of American Jews who are totally leftists while "concerned" or "very much concerned" about the fate of Israel and totally opposed to cutting US aid to Israel no matter what. (They might not like the present Israeli government, though.) I know that Chuck Schumer is totally opposed to any restrictions on abortions, but he was fundraising for an organization doing counselling for Jewish women wanting to have abortions in Israel. He opposes such counselling for gentile women only, apparently. He supports the Israeli demand of accepting Israel as a "Jewish state", but isn't so understanding with people who demand that the US should be declared a "white state". (Same for the majority of American Jews.)

    But I spent a lot of time reading Hungarian leftist publications roughly 1994-2006, and I don't read nearly as much about US (or any other country's) domestic politics (OK, the Trump campaign was interesting), so it's difficult for me to describe the exact political positions of American Jews. You know, a Hungarian Jewish politician like Mátyás Eörsi didn't talk about Israel much. Occasionally, very rarely, he did. He was also active in Israeli matters as a member of the European Parliament. But you wouldn't know that if you didn't pay close attention, because most of his time was devoted to promoting liberalism for Hungarian gentiles.

    But I would describe American leftist Jews as preaching moderate nationalism for Israel, but totally anti-nationalistic for any other country. Of course, for the Israeli hard right that might not be enough, but for us gentiles even our "nationalist" leaders (like Orbán in Hungary) are nowhere near that. I've read a few surveys to make that educated guess.

    Those meetups of commenters on forum.index.hu were great. Imagine all of us having dinner together, with people like Svigor and Jack D clinking their glasses with kosher slivovica (a strong spirit distilled from prunes), etc. People usually feel a certain camaraderie both with online friends and opponents. Of course, usually people on the same side talk more to each other, but at least there’s some socializing between the sides.

    I’d really like one such meetup with commenters here, though of course I know it’s basically impossible.

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  143. @reiner Tor

    Your experience consisting of …. what?
     
    Consisting of talking online to a few dozens of Jews on Hungary's largest (or then largest? I'm no longer present there) online forum, forum.index.hu. The Hungarian web's great advantage is that most participants (in the 00s, when I was active there) lived in Hungary, a lot in or around Budapest, so it was possible to organize huge meetups. It's therefore easy to know if handle X was actually called Z. Y., and actually lived here or there.

    Many Jewish commenters (perhaps a minority, but not a small minority, rather like a third or so) were totally indifferent to Israel (while usually leaning left in Hungarian or international matters), while the rest (while usually still leaning left in Hungarian or international matters) took the slightest criticism of Israel as a personal insult. You know, Israel is actually to the right of all European countries, even of present day Hungary (whether it's because of the Mizrahim or not is moot), so it's quite strange for someone to defend Israel against criticism of its human rights records while criticizing the Hungarian treatment of Gypsies. Actually, their reactions to any criticism of Israel resembled me to the more extreme Jobbik supporters' reactions to criticism of Hungary... So, they walked like Israeli nationalists, swam like Israeli nationalists, and talked like Israeli nationalists (including defending the settler movement, using scare quotes when discussing "Palestinians", etc.), to me, they were Israeli nationalists. While supporting leftism elsewhere (in Hungary, where they lived).

    Mind you, of the few Jews who I knew from elsewhere (the Fórum could be a self-selected minority) and to whom I talked about politics at all (altogether three people) also took any criticism of Israel quite personally. While also leaning quite left/liberal in Hungarian matters. (So, they were also in that group.)

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.
     
    Mátyás Eörsi, Péter Hack, János Gadó, Péter Szegő, Ágnes Heller, Endre Aczél, Tamás Mészáros, Péter Tasnádi, András Schiff, László Seres.

    I'd have a difficult time naming ten politically Jews who are not leftists (there are some), though I could probably name ten, I could also probably name ten who are leftists but are silent on Israel. I could probably name a handful who are actively anti-Israel.

    Outside Hungary I can cite you a number of surveys of American Jews who are totally leftists while "concerned" or "very much concerned" about the fate of Israel and totally opposed to cutting US aid to Israel no matter what. (They might not like the present Israeli government, though.) I know that Chuck Schumer is totally opposed to any restrictions on abortions, but he was fundraising for an organization doing counselling for Jewish women wanting to have abortions in Israel. He opposes such counselling for gentile women only, apparently. He supports the Israeli demand of accepting Israel as a "Jewish state", but isn't so understanding with people who demand that the US should be declared a "white state". (Same for the majority of American Jews.)

    But I spent a lot of time reading Hungarian leftist publications roughly 1994-2006, and I don't read nearly as much about US (or any other country's) domestic politics (OK, the Trump campaign was interesting), so it's difficult for me to describe the exact political positions of American Jews. You know, a Hungarian Jewish politician like Mátyás Eörsi didn't talk about Israel much. Occasionally, very rarely, he did. He was also active in Israeli matters as a member of the European Parliament. But you wouldn't know that if you didn't pay close attention, because most of his time was devoted to promoting liberalism for Hungarian gentiles.

    But I would describe American leftist Jews as preaching moderate nationalism for Israel, but totally anti-nationalistic for any other country. Of course, for the Israeli hard right that might not be enough, but for us gentiles even our "nationalist" leaders (like Orbán in Hungary) are nowhere near that. I've read a few surveys to make that educated guess.

    Also, my perception might be somewhat skewed by being Hungarian. In Hungary, the “left” (including usually the successor party to the former communist party) often take neocon lines – including even privatizing healthcare and pensions (for the middle class, but with a lot of gibmedats to Gypsies) while supporting any US military adventure in the world, as well as being staunchly pro-Israel. The nationalist right is usually more skeptical of both the US (whose ambassadors occasionally berate Hungarians for their supposed racism and anti-Semitism) or Israel (whose ambassadors criticize these same things). (It doesn’t seem to matter for either the US or Israeli ambassadors whether their respective governments at home are nominally leftists or rightists – we’ll see how it’ll work out with Trump.) Also, Orbán seems to understand he needs some Jews on his side, and I think as a nationalist he can find a higher common denominator with a Netanyahu than with an Obama or even with a Dubya. I mean, you can understand Netanyahu’s motivations (perhaps even when he criticizes European nationalists like Haider or even Trump, or his ambassador even criticized Orbán), but how can you understand what motivates a Hillary Clinton? OK, she wants power, but other than that. Hatred for her own country?

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    reiner Tor, do you have a number or percentage on how many Hungarian Gypsies there are? It is very hard in Romania to do so. Officially, there are like 600k who self-declare as such. The Roma associations claim 2-3 million, including the various mixed children resulting from lower class mixing. I'd be inclined to split the difference, but there sure are a lot.
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  144. @reiner Tor

    Your experience consisting of …. what?
     
    Consisting of talking online to a few dozens of Jews on Hungary's largest (or then largest? I'm no longer present there) online forum, forum.index.hu. The Hungarian web's great advantage is that most participants (in the 00s, when I was active there) lived in Hungary, a lot in or around Budapest, so it was possible to organize huge meetups. It's therefore easy to know if handle X was actually called Z. Y., and actually lived here or there.

    Many Jewish commenters (perhaps a minority, but not a small minority, rather like a third or so) were totally indifferent to Israel (while usually leaning left in Hungarian or international matters), while the rest (while usually still leaning left in Hungarian or international matters) took the slightest criticism of Israel as a personal insult. You know, Israel is actually to the right of all European countries, even of present day Hungary (whether it's because of the Mizrahim or not is moot), so it's quite strange for someone to defend Israel against criticism of its human rights records while criticizing the Hungarian treatment of Gypsies. Actually, their reactions to any criticism of Israel resembled me to the more extreme Jobbik supporters' reactions to criticism of Hungary... So, they walked like Israeli nationalists, swam like Israeli nationalists, and talked like Israeli nationalists (including defending the settler movement, using scare quotes when discussing "Palestinians", etc.), to me, they were Israeli nationalists. While supporting leftism elsewhere (in Hungary, where they lived).

    Mind you, of the few Jews who I knew from elsewhere (the Fórum could be a self-selected minority) and to whom I talked about politics at all (altogether three people) also took any criticism of Israel quite personally. While also leaning quite left/liberal in Hungarian matters. (So, they were also in that group.)

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.
     
    Mátyás Eörsi, Péter Hack, János Gadó, Péter Szegő, Ágnes Heller, Endre Aczél, Tamás Mészáros, Péter Tasnádi, András Schiff, László Seres.

    I'd have a difficult time naming ten politically Jews who are not leftists (there are some), though I could probably name ten, I could also probably name ten who are leftists but are silent on Israel. I could probably name a handful who are actively anti-Israel.

    Outside Hungary I can cite you a number of surveys of American Jews who are totally leftists while "concerned" or "very much concerned" about the fate of Israel and totally opposed to cutting US aid to Israel no matter what. (They might not like the present Israeli government, though.) I know that Chuck Schumer is totally opposed to any restrictions on abortions, but he was fundraising for an organization doing counselling for Jewish women wanting to have abortions in Israel. He opposes such counselling for gentile women only, apparently. He supports the Israeli demand of accepting Israel as a "Jewish state", but isn't so understanding with people who demand that the US should be declared a "white state". (Same for the majority of American Jews.)

    But I spent a lot of time reading Hungarian leftist publications roughly 1994-2006, and I don't read nearly as much about US (or any other country's) domestic politics (OK, the Trump campaign was interesting), so it's difficult for me to describe the exact political positions of American Jews. You know, a Hungarian Jewish politician like Mátyás Eörsi didn't talk about Israel much. Occasionally, very rarely, he did. He was also active in Israeli matters as a member of the European Parliament. But you wouldn't know that if you didn't pay close attention, because most of his time was devoted to promoting liberalism for Hungarian gentiles.

    But I would describe American leftist Jews as preaching moderate nationalism for Israel, but totally anti-nationalistic for any other country. Of course, for the Israeli hard right that might not be enough, but for us gentiles even our "nationalist" leaders (like Orbán in Hungary) are nowhere near that. I've read a few surveys to make that educated guess.

    There are 10,968 Jews in Hungary. I know nothing about Hungary and I trust that what you say is true, but it is not a statistically significant sample. I’ve never heard any of the people you mention, but I’ll admit I wonder how many of them are actually Jewish-Jewish. Someone here once named an important Swedish media/political family as being Jewish and, when I googled them, the first member who came up was a bishop. I’m willing to take the blame for bad things Jews do, but not anyone with a Jewish grandfather.

    You know, Israel is actually to the right of all European countries, even of present day Hungary

    This comes to the nub of the issue. You’ve written a few times about how you feel frustrated when you hear people holding up Hungary as an example of successful nationalism, when really Orban is kind of a pussy. That’s how I feel about Israel. Example: a few months ago a construction worker from a village nearby ran over some off-duty soldiers with his JCB at a popular sightseeing spot (the Hass promenade). That village had an all-night party, including launching fireworks into our neighborhood. That Friday, I head the imam give his sermon, as usual, over loudspeaker. This time, though, it was so loud I could hear it even with the windows closed. My Arabic is sub-remedial, but I know the word “Jews” well enough. The next week the locals organised a memorial service: it was all about peace, and harmony. They made a banner with a dove . I could cite examples all night. Israel is a faggy lefty country, made slightly less faggy by the fact that its enemies can’t even be bothered to pretend not to want to slaughter everyone in it.

    I’ve only visited Hungary for a couple of days, but I found the culture there to be a lot more nationalist than Israel (which in turn is a lot more nationalist than Britain).

    I know that Chuck Schumer is totally opposed to any restrictions on abortions, but he was fundraising for an organization doing counselling for Jewish women wanting to have abortions in Israel. He opposes such counselling for gentile women only, apparently. He supports the Israeli demand of accepting Israel as a “Jewish state”, but isn’t so understanding with people who demand that the US should be declared a “white state”.

    Chuck Schumer is on the upper end of the hypocrisy spectrum, but there’s not really a parallel between Israel as a Jewish state and America as a white state. You could make a parallel between Israel being a Jewish state and France being a French state. Also Efrat, the organisation he was fundraising for, is a faggy lefty organisation, and Israel’s abortion laws are sickeningly liberal.

    But I would describe American leftist Jews as preaching moderate nationalism for Israel, but totally anti-nationalistic for any other country.

    American liberal Jews say they love America, and advocate policies that are bad for Americans; they say they love Israelis and advocate policies that are bad for Israelis. The whole double standards claim is based upon obsessing over details, but even so it’s not really conclusive. If American Jews get their way in America, whites will have a hard time, but they’ll survive. If they get their way on Israel, we’re finished.

    My personal experience is that Jews usually have opinions on Israel slightly to the right of their opinions on other stuff. Sometimes I have been able to leverage their hypocrisy to change their opinions on the other stuff, but it doesn’t really achieve much. Maybe they will move from voting Conservative, to …. still voting Conservative, but kind of wanting to vote UKIP.

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  145. @Svigor

    I don’t think people need to speculate too much about his motives. Some people are just natural marplots and Iagos. They just love stirring up trouble and being able to giggle over all the uproar they’ve caused. He’s probably a very spoiled little snot.
     
    Conveniently strategic Jewish behavior, from the spoiled little snot.

    That would have to be one of ISteve’s proverbial “triple bankshots”.
     
    If anything, Trump is more like the phony Jewish guy in Snatch, Doug the Head. Not the pretending or wanting to be Jewish part, so much as just having long moved and worked in a Jewish milieu; consider the scene where Doug tells the Jewish snots on his stoop to "fuck off."

    In any event, it’s funny how these mental illnesses always happen to make their Jewish victims conveniently do what Jews often do even without them
     
    That's what I've been trying to say, thank you.

    Anyway, for what it may be worth, I am not particularly surprised by this development. It’s very common for apparent hate crimes against Group X to be perpetrated by members of Group X. Probably a lot of “noose” incidents are perpetrated by blacks and a lot of the swastickas they are finding are put up by Jewish people.
     
    With how attuned the society is to persecution of said group being the x factor. Meaning, Whites of American founding stock, not so much.

    In fact, many leftists are often Jewish nationalists who advocate leftism for gentiles.

    Well, it should be easy for you to name 10 then.
     
    It would make more sense to name 10 Jews who aren't, but:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_journalists
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Americans

    You can quibble over individual names, of course, and pick out the non- or anti-Zionists, non-leftists, and "ANTI-SEMITES!!!" But the rest should serve as a good start.

    There’s no real fallout for white gentiles here.
     
    What's one more stick on the fire, after all.

    But the only person going to jail for this is the actual perpetrator, and the main psychic harm was to Jews who were legitimately scared for a few weeks there. If white gentiles get guilt-tripped by any of this, that’s on us.
     
    Funny, The (heavily Jewish) Narrative sure has a lot of room for the harm done by Whites' perceptions of Jews and non-Whites.

    Or, to put it more persuasively:

    So back in the days when jew haters spread false stories about jews poisoning the wells, using christian blood in matzos, etc., I guess the main harm was to gentiles who were legitimately scared by these stories?

    So back in the days when jew haters spread false stories about jews poisoning the wells, using christian blood in matzos, etc., I guess the main harm was to gentiles who were legitimately scared by these stories?

    Yes, telling your Christian child that Jews might abduct him to use his blood for baking is definitely a form of child-abuse. Nevertheless, the reason why we say Jews suffered more from the blood libel is because periodically the Christian would beat the living shit out of Jews over it.

    In this case, hundreds of Jewish children had to be evacuated from their school because they thought it was going to be blown up. Yeah, it’s not the end of the world, and yeah filth organisations like the ADL certainly exploited it, but it’s characteristic of the self-pitying nature of WNs, that they think they are the big victims in all this.

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  146. @reiner Tor
    Also, my perception might be somewhat skewed by being Hungarian. In Hungary, the "left" (including usually the successor party to the former communist party) often take neocon lines - including even privatizing healthcare and pensions (for the middle class, but with a lot of gibmedats to Gypsies) while supporting any US military adventure in the world, as well as being staunchly pro-Israel. The nationalist right is usually more skeptical of both the US (whose ambassadors occasionally berate Hungarians for their supposed racism and anti-Semitism) or Israel (whose ambassadors criticize these same things). (It doesn't seem to matter for either the US or Israeli ambassadors whether their respective governments at home are nominally leftists or rightists - we'll see how it'll work out with Trump.) Also, Orbán seems to understand he needs some Jews on his side, and I think as a nationalist he can find a higher common denominator with a Netanyahu than with an Obama or even with a Dubya. I mean, you can understand Netanyahu's motivations (perhaps even when he criticizes European nationalists like Haider or even Trump, or his ambassador even criticized Orbán), but how can you understand what motivates a Hillary Clinton? OK, she wants power, but other than that. Hatred for her own country?

    reiner Tor, do you have a number or percentage on how many Hungarian Gypsies there are? It is very hard in Romania to do so. Officially, there are like 600k who self-declare as such. The Roma associations claim 2-3 million, including the various mixed children resulting from lower class mixing. I’d be inclined to split the difference, but there sure are a lot.

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    Probably not yet 10%, but could be over 20% among the newborns.
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  147. They just use their insanely inflated position atop the commanding heights of American culture to destroy or marginalize anybody they dislike. Up to and including their righteous co-ethnics, like Paul Gottfried.

    It’s all so civilized.

    All so designed not to awaken the social immune system. Boiling the frog is a more effective way to genocide, precisely because of the veneer of civility.

    Those meetups of commenters on forum.index.hu were great. Imagine all of us having dinner together, with people like Svigor and Jack D clinking their glasses with kosher slivovica (a strong spirit distilled from prunes), etc.

    I probably like Jack D a lot more than Jack D likes me. Same goes for SFG. Ah, my unrequited love for the Jews…

    Your preceding post was really good, btw.

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    reiner Tor, do you have a number or percentage on how many Hungarian Gypsies there are? It is very hard in Romania to do so. Officially, there are like 600k who self-declare as such. The Roma associations claim 2-3 million, including the various mixed children resulting from lower class mixing. I'd be inclined to split the difference, but there sure are a lot.

    Probably not yet 10%, but could be over 20% among the newborns.

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