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Orban Accuses Soros of Stoking Refugee Wave to Weaken Europe
Andras Gergely
October 30, 2015 — 12:59 AM PDT

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban accused billionaire investor George Soros of being a prominent member of a circle of “activists” trying to undermine European nations by supporting refugees heading to the continent from the Middle East and beyond.

“His name is perhaps the strongest example of those who support anything that weakens nation states, they support everything that changes the traditional European lifestyle,” Orban said in an interview on public radio Kossuth. “These activists who support immigrants inadvertently become part of this international human-smuggling network.” …

Soros said in an e-mailed statement that a six-point plan published by his foundation helps “uphold European values” while Orban’s actions “undermine those values.”

“His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle,” he said in the statement. “Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national border as the obstacle.”

In other words, Soros is agreeing with Orban.

 
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  1. “These activists who support immigrants inadvertently become part of this international human-smuggling network.”

    Inadvertently?

    I don’t believe there is a conspiracy in the usual sense of the word, but Soros and many of his ilk hold views that are hostile to the idea of a blood-and-soil nation state. Offhand, I would guess that the cabal includes Gates, Buffett, Slim, Obama, Hillary Clinton, the Bush family, et al.

    They don’t have to conspire in the usual sense, i.e. holding discussions in secret, plotting, planning, etc. etc. They all hold the same beliefs, and they are doing nothing to hide their intentions.

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    • Replies: @Rob McX
    It's a fine statement from Mr Orban, but that "inadvertently" is obviously wrong. In fact, his description turns the situation on its head. The people-smuggling gangsters are only bit players in the plan drawn up and orchestrated by the likes of Soros and Merkel.
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  2. Viktor Orban is a head of state, hence he as access to the intelligence of the information agency of his country. He wouldn’t say the Eye of Soros played a role in that crisis out of thin air.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Doesn't necessarily mean he's telling the truth--politicians have been known to lie occasionally.

    Of course, we have Soros basically admitting that's exactly what he's trying to do!
  3. We joke about the communists doing away with their political enemies by branding them saboteurs and wreckers.

    In Soros we have the real deal, and the Left lines up to take his money and do his bidding.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Over here, they use 'racist', 'sexist', 'homophobic', and more obscure terms like 'heteronormative' and 'transphobic' if you're deep enough into Blue America.

    Of course, they can't actually throw you in jail for that...yet...
  4. The tyranny of the self-righteous again.

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    The tyranny of the self-righteous again.
     
    The tyranny of the self-interested.
  5. OT:

    I am starting a wiki/crowdsource list of Republicans to target in the 2016 primaries coming up.

    Trump being on the primary ballot could be a very rare opportunity to beat, Eric Cantor style, some house republicans who are soft on amnesty by bringing out patriotic voters to vote in the GOP presidential primary / caucuses. Maybe Trump will even fund some voter ID and turnout operations.

    Only beating one incumbent, or even just giving a couple of them a serious scare, will have a very positive effect on all the other House Republicans as the Chamber of Commerce/Speaker Ryan dangle big donations in front of them in exchange for selling out the American people.

    To start, I used the NumbersUSA list of house republicans with the lowest lifetime score. Then I used a combination of sources: wikipedia, NumbersUSA, and google searches to add additional information about their potential vulnerabilities.

    The “ideal” target (1) lacks seniority (2) is not in a super-expensive media market (3) has done poorly in GOP primaries in the past (4) is not in California or Louisiana which has “top 2″ or “jungle primaries” that make it hard to challenge a incumbent from the right (or from the far left for that matter).

    Of course, we don’t have to limit ourselves to such targets, Eric Cantor only satisfied 2 and 4.

    After finding the best few targets, we can look to see which patriotic republicans have run in the past or expressed interest in running, and start writing them e-mails telling them if they jump in they will have our support.

    I hope some of you all will be interested enough to help me with this research. My initial work took about 2 hours and I can’t do it all myself. I will put all this in a wiki shortly and also incorporate any replies to me here.

    PVI means how the district voted for President compared with the rest of the country. So GOP +1 means the district voted for Obama, but 1 point more narrowly than the USA Average.

    First Group of Amnesty Republicans – Florida Cubans

    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen FL 27
    Mario Diaz-Balart FL 25
    Carlos Curbelo FL 26

    Probably hard to win these Cuban districts
    An anti-amnesty Republican might not be able to win in the general election either

    Group 2 – San Joaquin Valley Republicans

    Jeff Denham CA 10

    Northern San Joaquin Valley, includes Modesto, Tracy, and some extreme Silicon Valley commuters
    PVI +1 GOP
    46.4% White
    40.1% Hispanic
    7.7% Asian
    3.7% Black

    Devin Nunes CA 22
    Southern San Joaquin Valley
    Includes parts of Fresno (north end and N and E suburbs) but mostly rural
    PVI +10 GOP

    44.8% Hispanic
    42.4% White
    7.3% Asian,
    2.8% Black

    GOP primary would be tough in these districts since the local economy relies on illegal farm labor

    California’s jungle primary also makes it much harder to knock off pro-amnesty Republicans. Could drive the district’s hispanic turnout too.

    Group Three – Great Lakes

    Unlike FL and CA, the Great Lakes states have many great targets.

    Susan Brooks IN 5

    District is the nicer suburbs of Indianapolis plus some farm country and rustbelt small towns
    She’s a sophomore in Dan Burton’s old district
    Burton had an A rating, Brooks has a D

    PVI +11 GOP

    94.1% White
    2.6% Black
    1.3% Asian
    1.6% Hispanic

    She won her open seat primary in 2012 by 1 point against David McIntosh who is also pro-amnesty.

    Indiana is a fairly cheap place to run for office and has some very conservative GOP primary voters. Probably the single best target I have found.

    Rodney Davis IL 13

    District includes St Louis suburbs and large area of central illinois including Champaign, Urbana, and Decatur

    Davis is a freshman and very vulnerable to a Democrat, PVI of zero or even
    82.7% White, 11.3% Black, 3.5% Asian, 3.1% Hispanic

    Won the open seat GOP primary by beating Erika Harold, 2003′s Miss America who is also pro-amnesty

    Would be vulnerable in a primary, and even if we lose a Dem could knock him off in the general and a better Republican could retake the seat in 2018.

    Mike Turner OH 10

    Dayton, most of its suburbs, a few agricultural counties to the east

    Turner is the former Republican mayor of the City of Dayton, which he won despite it being 40% black (the suburbs are mostly 90%+ white)

    PVI only is +2 GOP but Turner is considered safe from Dems, he is the anti-Romney, able to win blue collar Democrats in large numbers

    77.41% White
    17.13% Black
    2.11% Asian
    2.43% Hispanic

    He is not a good fundraiser, and Dayton is a very cheap media market.
    In summary, Turner is golden in general elections with his cross-over appeal and high approval rating, but this is the type of area Trump polls best in and Turner could be vulnerable based on his amnesty voters. He has also been in politics, like Cantor, for a long time and can be attacked on this basis.

    Mike Bost IL 12

    St. Louis suburbs and rural southern IL
    PVI of 0

    79.0% White
    17.1% Black
    3.0% Hispanic
    1.1% Asian

    Was not opposed at all in 2014 primary

    Defeated an awful Dem incumbent who in 2012 with high Dem turnout, won by 10 points. Good chance of Dems winning district in 2016.

    John Moolenaar MI 4
    the district starts in Lansing’s northern suburbs and extend to include most north-central Michigan
    PVI +4 GOP
    92.6% White
    1.8% Black
    2.7% Hispanic
    0.9% Asian

    Moolenaar is a freshman who won GOP primary againt Paul Mitchell, despite Mitchell spending $5 million of his own money

    While Mitchell had some vague anti-immigration statements on his website, he refused to answer the pointed questions in the NumbersUSA survey

    May be very hard to beat after his 2014 win. Best case might be Moolenaar loses to a Democrat in 2016 and a better Republican runs and wins in 2018.

    The area is rural and blue-collar enough a Democrat might run to Moolenaar’s right on immigration in 2016.

    He replaced Dave Camp, who was an excellent and thoughtful Republican who did a surprise retirement after only 2 terms in response to the corporate lobbies killing his tax reform plan.

    Camp had a B+ rating compared to Moolenaar’s D, so getting him back out of retirement might be the best shot.

    Barbara Comstock VA 10

    Freshman in the DC’s richest suburbs
    Beloved by immigration patriots like Levin and Limbaugh because of her long record of warmongering and anti-Clinton activism
    Awful record but probably impossible to beat given the district demographics

    Further research required for the following amnesty Republicans

    Pat Tiberi OH 12
    Mark Sanford SC 1
    Steve Pearce NM 2
    Elise Stefanik NY 21
    John Katko NY 24
    Tom MacArthur NJ 3
    David Valadao CA 21
    Ryan Costello PA 6
    Cresent Hardy NV 4
    William Hurd TX 23
    Ann Wagner MO 2
    Markwayne Mullin OK 2
    Andy Barr KY 6
    Adam Kinzinger IL 16
    Martha McSally AZ 2

    The follow Republicans have more mixed records, but are in solid conservative districts that should have solid immigration patiots:

    Chris Smith NJ 4
    Garret Graves LA 6
    French Hill AR 2
    Tom Emmer MN 6 (freshman who took over Michele Bachmann’s conservative district)

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    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Beloved by immigration patriots like Levin and Limbaugh because of her long record of warmongering and anti-Clinton activism"

    Way way hold it, hold it. Limbaugh doesn't have a strong track record of being an immigration patriot. Spotty at best. Just don't make it out to be something it isn't. Where was he for the last twenty years? Awol and nowhere to be found on the issue, especially when W. was in office. In other words when an R is in office, he's not gonna go all out much but carry the water for the party. When a D is in office, then he'll use whatever trend is popular to use vs the D. Should an R retake the White House, don't expect much from him or Levin for that matter in matters of patriotic immigration.

    Didn't know that MacIntosh was pro-amnesty. Great list though, and perhaps VDARE out to start highlighting some of these same districts regarding those who aren't strong on immigration and ought to be challenged in the GOP primaries.
    , @jon
    Have you tried contacting anyone at NumbersUSA or any of the other immigration organizations? What about VDare or sites like that?
    , @Trumped
    Great work! A plumber in Colorado used an iphone and a public voter registration list a couple years ago to recall two state senators and humiliate Bloomberg in a similar fashion.

    What you are doing has precedent and can be done.
  6. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    "These activists who support immigrants inadvertently become part of this international human-smuggling network.”

    Inadvertently?

    I don't believe there is a conspiracy in the usual sense of the word, but Soros and many of his ilk hold views that are hostile to the idea of a blood-and-soil nation state. Offhand, I would guess that the cabal includes Gates, Buffett, Slim, Obama, Hillary Clinton, the Bush family, et al.

    They don't have to conspire in the usual sense, i.e. holding discussions in secret, plotting, planning, etc. etc. They all hold the same beliefs, and they are doing nothing to hide their intentions.

    It’s a fine statement from Mr Orban, but that “inadvertently” is obviously wrong. In fact, his description turns the situation on its head. The people-smuggling gangsters are only bit players in the plan drawn up and orchestrated by the likes of Soros and Merkel.

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  7. @franktremb
    Viktor Orban is a head of state, hence he as access to the intelligence of the information agency of his country. He wouldn't say the Eye of Soros played a role in that crisis out of thin air.

    Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s telling the truth–politicians have been known to lie occasionally.

    Of course, we have Soros basically admitting that’s exactly what he’s trying to do!

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  8. @bomag
    We joke about the communists doing away with their political enemies by branding them saboteurs and wreckers.

    In Soros we have the real deal, and the Left lines up to take his money and do his bidding.

    Over here, they use ‘racist’, ‘sexist’, ‘homophobic’, and more obscure terms like ‘heteronormative’ and ‘transphobic’ if you’re deep enough into Blue America.

    Of course, they can’t actually throw you in jail for that…yet…

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  9. @Lot
    OT:

    I am starting a wiki/crowdsource list of Republicans to target in the 2016 primaries coming up.

    Trump being on the primary ballot could be a very rare opportunity to beat, Eric Cantor style, some house republicans who are soft on amnesty by bringing out patriotic voters to vote in the GOP presidential primary / caucuses. Maybe Trump will even fund some voter ID and turnout operations.

    Only beating one incumbent, or even just giving a couple of them a serious scare, will have a very positive effect on all the other House Republicans as the Chamber of Commerce/Speaker Ryan dangle big donations in front of them in exchange for selling out the American people.

    To start, I used the NumbersUSA list of house republicans with the lowest lifetime score. Then I used a combination of sources: wikipedia, NumbersUSA, and google searches to add additional information about their potential vulnerabilities.

    The "ideal" target (1) lacks seniority (2) is not in a super-expensive media market (3) has done poorly in GOP primaries in the past (4) is not in California or Louisiana which has "top 2" or "jungle primaries" that make it hard to challenge a incumbent from the right (or from the far left for that matter).

    Of course, we don't have to limit ourselves to such targets, Eric Cantor only satisfied 2 and 4.

    After finding the best few targets, we can look to see which patriotic republicans have run in the past or expressed interest in running, and start writing them e-mails telling them if they jump in they will have our support.

    I hope some of you all will be interested enough to help me with this research. My initial work took about 2 hours and I can't do it all myself. I will put all this in a wiki shortly and also incorporate any replies to me here.

    PVI means how the district voted for President compared with the rest of the country. So GOP +1 means the district voted for Obama, but 1 point more narrowly than the USA Average.

    ---

    First Group of Amnesty Republicans - Florida Cubans

    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen FL 27
    Mario Diaz-Balart FL 25
    Carlos Curbelo FL 26

    Probably hard to win these Cuban districts
    An anti-amnesty Republican might not be able to win in the general election either

    Group 2 - San Joaquin Valley Republicans

    Jeff Denham CA 10

    Northern San Joaquin Valley, includes Modesto, Tracy, and some extreme Silicon Valley commuters
    PVI +1 GOP
    46.4% White
    40.1% Hispanic
    7.7% Asian
    3.7% Black


    Devin Nunes CA 22
    Southern San Joaquin Valley
    Includes parts of Fresno (north end and N and E suburbs) but mostly rural
    PVI +10 GOP

    44.8% Hispanic
    42.4% White
    7.3% Asian,
    2.8% Black

    GOP primary would be tough in these districts since the local economy relies on illegal farm labor

    California's jungle primary also makes it much harder to knock off pro-amnesty Republicans. Could drive the district's hispanic turnout too.

    Group Three - Great Lakes

    Unlike FL and CA, the Great Lakes states have many great targets.

    Susan Brooks IN 5

    District is the nicer suburbs of Indianapolis plus some farm country and rustbelt small towns
    She's a sophomore in Dan Burton's old district
    Burton had an A rating, Brooks has a D


    PVI +11 GOP

    94.1% White
    2.6% Black
    1.3% Asian
    1.6% Hispanic

    She won her open seat primary in 2012 by 1 point against David McIntosh who is also pro-amnesty.

    Indiana is a fairly cheap place to run for office and has some very conservative GOP primary voters. Probably the single best target I have found.


    Rodney Davis IL 13

    District includes St Louis suburbs and large area of central illinois including Champaign, Urbana, and Decatur

    Davis is a freshman and very vulnerable to a Democrat, PVI of zero or even
    82.7% White, 11.3% Black, 3.5% Asian, 3.1% Hispanic

    Won the open seat GOP primary by beating Erika Harold, 2003's Miss America who is also pro-amnesty

    Would be vulnerable in a primary, and even if we lose a Dem could knock him off in the general and a better Republican could retake the seat in 2018.


    Mike Turner OH 10

    Dayton, most of its suburbs, a few agricultural counties to the east

    Turner is the former Republican mayor of the City of Dayton, which he won despite it being 40% black (the suburbs are mostly 90%+ white)

    PVI only is +2 GOP but Turner is considered safe from Dems, he is the anti-Romney, able to win blue collar Democrats in large numbers

    77.41% White
    17.13% Black
    2.11% Asian
    2.43% Hispanic

    He is not a good fundraiser, and Dayton is a very cheap media market.
    In summary, Turner is golden in general elections with his cross-over appeal and high approval rating, but this is the type of area Trump polls best in and Turner could be vulnerable based on his amnesty voters. He has also been in politics, like Cantor, for a long time and can be attacked on this basis.

    Mike Bost IL 12

    St. Louis suburbs and rural southern IL
    PVI of 0

    79.0% White
    17.1% Black
    3.0% Hispanic
    1.1% Asian

    Was not opposed at all in 2014 primary

    Defeated an awful Dem incumbent who in 2012 with high Dem turnout, won by 10 points. Good chance of Dems winning district in 2016.

    John Moolenaar MI 4
    the district starts in Lansing's northern suburbs and extend to include most north-central Michigan
    PVI +4 GOP
    92.6% White
    1.8% Black
    2.7% Hispanic
    0.9% Asian

    Moolenaar is a freshman who won GOP primary againt Paul Mitchell, despite Mitchell spending $5 million of his own money

    While Mitchell had some vague anti-immigration statements on his website, he refused to answer the pointed questions in the NumbersUSA survey

    May be very hard to beat after his 2014 win. Best case might be Moolenaar loses to a Democrat in 2016 and a better Republican runs and wins in 2018.

    The area is rural and blue-collar enough a Democrat might run to Moolenaar's right on immigration in 2016.


    He replaced Dave Camp, who was an excellent and thoughtful Republican who did a surprise retirement after only 2 terms in response to the corporate lobbies killing his tax reform plan.

    Camp had a B+ rating compared to Moolenaar's D, so getting him back out of retirement might be the best shot.

    Barbara Comstock VA 10

    Freshman in the DC's richest suburbs
    Beloved by immigration patriots like Levin and Limbaugh because of her long record of warmongering and anti-Clinton activism
    Awful record but probably impossible to beat given the district demographics


    Further research required for the following amnesty Republicans

    Pat Tiberi OH 12
    Mark Sanford SC 1
    Steve Pearce NM 2
    Elise Stefanik NY 21
    John Katko NY 24
    Tom MacArthur NJ 3
    David Valadao CA 21
    Ryan Costello PA 6
    Cresent Hardy NV 4
    William Hurd TX 23
    Ann Wagner MO 2
    Markwayne Mullin OK 2
    Andy Barr KY 6
    Adam Kinzinger IL 16
    Martha McSally AZ 2

    The follow Republicans have more mixed records, but are in solid conservative districts that should have solid immigration patiots:

    Chris Smith NJ 4
    Garret Graves LA 6
    French Hill AR 2
    Tom Emmer MN 6 (freshman who took over Michele Bachmann's conservative district)

    “Beloved by immigration patriots like Levin and Limbaugh because of her long record of warmongering and anti-Clinton activism”

    Way way hold it, hold it. Limbaugh doesn’t have a strong track record of being an immigration patriot. Spotty at best. Just don’t make it out to be something it isn’t. Where was he for the last twenty years? Awol and nowhere to be found on the issue, especially when W. was in office. In other words when an R is in office, he’s not gonna go all out much but carry the water for the party. When a D is in office, then he’ll use whatever trend is popular to use vs the D. Should an R retake the White House, don’t expect much from him or Levin for that matter in matters of patriotic immigration.

    Didn’t know that MacIntosh was pro-amnesty. Great list though, and perhaps VDARE out to start highlighting some of these same districts regarding those who aren’t strong on immigration and ought to be challenged in the GOP primaries.

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    • Replies: @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I remember writing to David Limbaugh, in response to a column of his 15 years ago, asking what was wrong with his brother that he did not talk more about immigration. Back then, Rush was still interested, at least somewhat in mainstream respectability.

    Then three things happened:

    - He got fired from ESPN in 2003 for making the entirely unremarkable comment that the mainstream media was desirous of seeing black NFL quarterbacks do well,

    - His subsequent detainment at a general aviation airport upon his return from the Dominican Republic on trumped up drug charges (i.e. prescription ED meds)

    - And finally the NFL owners denying his application to be a minority (5-10%) owner of the St. Louis Rams.

    I am sure those 3 events caused him to realize that he was never going to be admitted to "the club," despite his $500M net worth. If that's what pushed him our direction, all I can say is "welcome Rush."
  10. Europe through NATO spent the last 15 years tormenting these people. So I see nothing less than devine retribution for German and other war profiteering. I really think they deserve what is happening.

    If they don’t like it they can hire the Chinese to rebuild Syria.

    538 discusses Baltimore shooting data.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/murder-rates-dont-tell-us-everything-about-gun-violence/

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    • Replies: @Nico
    If this "divine retribution" destroys Germany and France then it will also destroy Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, etc.

    "After us, the deluge!" is hardly a constructive paradigm.
  11. Sorry my last post was so long. Here is my GOP Primary Targets page, please have a look and add to it:

    http://target16.wikia.com

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    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    That's a very good idea and I wish you good luck with it.
    , @WhatEvvs
    What's been happening with Dave Brat, the guy who knocked off Cantor?
  12. George Soros is a devotee of Karl Popper, the theorist of the Open Society. TS Eliot criticized Popper for divorcing philosophy from moral imagination and thus severing culture from its religious roots. TS Eliot advocated the recovery of Christian community. There are no Christian thinkers in the West today who criticize the dangers of a liberal democracy and the open society.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Mutti Merkel will cause a lot of whimpering in Germany and neighboring countries, but other citizens there may decide to end things, contra Eliot, with a bang.
  13. Inadvertently?

    I don’t believe there is a conspiracy in the usual sense of the word, but Soros and many of his ilk hold views that are hostile to the idea of a blood-and-soil nation state.

    Really? If that were true, you’d think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. If they’re going by power of the practioners of blood and soil nationalism, and their degree of blood and soilyness, I mean. If they just want to rack up wins they should start with Liberia, maybe swing by Rwanda.

    But, oddly enough, they seem really interested in Europe instead.

    (I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we’re not reading about his aggression against Israel. Or any of his target-selection, really)

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    Really? If that were true, you’d think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. ... I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we’re not reading about his aggression against Israel.
     
    Being an anti-Semite is nice because it means you know everything about the Jews, no need to spend 15 seconds on Google when you know it all.

    Billionaire George Soros’ philanthropy is bad news for Israel, according to an in-depth report from the NGO-Monitor watchdog group.

    The report listed the many causes in Israel, or pertaining to Israel, that are funded by Soros’ Open Society Foundations.

    ...

    Another recipient of OSF funding is the Institute for Middle East Understanding, which, NGO-Monitor reports, is headed by staff who have accused Israel of war crimes and have termed Israel an “apartheid state.”

    Among the Israeli recipients is Adalah, which promotes the so-called “right of return” to Israel, which would allow millions of descendants of Arabs who fled Israel during the War of Independence to claim Israel as their home

    OSF also funds Al Haq, an Arab organization based in the Palestinian Authority-controlled city of Ramallah, north of Jerusalem. NGO-Monitor’s researchers described Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin as “a human rights campaigner by day and a terrorist by night,” who is among the senior members of the PFLP terrorist group.

    The extreme-left Israeli group B’Tselem also receives OSF funds. B’Tselem is notorious for publishing one-sided reports, and for inflating Arab civilian casualty figures. For example, the group included hundreds of Hamas policemen in Gaza as “non-combatants,” and counted Sheikh Ahmed Yassin – then the leader of Hamas – as not a definite combatant.

    ...

    The report listed several other controversial, far-left Israeli groups that receive direct or indirect OSF Funding, including Rabbis for Human Rights, Ir Amim, Yesh Din and the New Israel Fund.

     

    ...


    Soros Fund Management, the family office of the billionaire investor George Soros, has sold its stake in SodaStream, the soda making appliance producer that profits from the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and was made popular by actress Scarlett Johansson’s endorsement.

    The decision comes as a number of big international investors, including the fund linked to the Microsoft founder Bill Gates, join in a burgeoning financial boycott of Israel amid a push by the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement and other groups seeking more rights for Palestinians.

    SodaStream, headquartered in the Israeli city of Lod, has its main factory in the West Bank settlement of Ma’ale Adumim.
     
    ...

    From a 2007 article written by Soros himself:


    ... Israel, with the strong backing of the United States, refused to recognize the democratically elected Hamas government.

    One explanation is to be found in the pervasive influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which strongly affects both the Democratic and the Republican parties. AIPAC’s mission is to ensure American support for Israel but in recent years it has overreached itself. It became closely allied with the neocons and was an enthusiastic supporter of the invasion of Iraq.

    Whether the Democratic Party can liberate itself from AIPAC’s influence is highly doubtful. Any politician who dares to expose AIPAC’s influence would incur its wrath ... Israel’s policies of occupation, control, and repression on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem and Gaza ... AIPAC has been so successful in suppressing criticism ...

     

    , @Anonymous
    Soros is no friend of Israel or his fellow Jews and has never been. He is most committed to more profit opportunities for himself and open borders everywhere.
  14. Then there’s the juggernauts of China and India, with their lack of diversity, obviously racist regimes, entrenched cultures of xenophobia, walls against brown people, etc.

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  15. @Lot
    Sorry my last post was so long. Here is my GOP Primary Targets page, please have a look and add to it:

    http://target16.wikia.com

    That’s a very good idea and I wish you good luck with it.

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  16. @Assistant Village Idiot
    The tyranny of the self-righteous again.

    The tyranny of the self-righteous again.

    The tyranny of the self-interested.

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    “Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national border as the obstacle.”

    Does Soros ever say anything anywhere about what’s best for European people? Or does he just talk about obstacles and objectives?

    Sounds like a guy out to make many enemies.

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  18. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Beloved by immigration patriots like Levin and Limbaugh because of her long record of warmongering and anti-Clinton activism"

    Way way hold it, hold it. Limbaugh doesn't have a strong track record of being an immigration patriot. Spotty at best. Just don't make it out to be something it isn't. Where was he for the last twenty years? Awol and nowhere to be found on the issue, especially when W. was in office. In other words when an R is in office, he's not gonna go all out much but carry the water for the party. When a D is in office, then he'll use whatever trend is popular to use vs the D. Should an R retake the White House, don't expect much from him or Levin for that matter in matters of patriotic immigration.

    Didn't know that MacIntosh was pro-amnesty. Great list though, and perhaps VDARE out to start highlighting some of these same districts regarding those who aren't strong on immigration and ought to be challenged in the GOP primaries.

    I remember writing to David Limbaugh, in response to a column of his 15 years ago, asking what was wrong with his brother that he did not talk more about immigration. Back then, Rush was still interested, at least somewhat in mainstream respectability.

    Then three things happened:

    - He got fired from ESPN in 2003 for making the entirely unremarkable comment that the mainstream media was desirous of seeing black NFL quarterbacks do well,

    - His subsequent detainment at a general aviation airport upon his return from the Dominican Republic on trumped up drug charges (i.e. prescription ED meds)

    - And finally the NFL owners denying his application to be a minority (5-10%) owner of the St. Louis Rams.

    I am sure those 3 events caused him to realize that he was never going to be admitted to “the club,” despite his $500M net worth. If that’s what pushed him our direction, all I can say is “welcome Rush.”

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    There's still no direct evidence that he's in the patriotic immigration camp. Let's not so quickly forget that this person is for the most part a plutocrat and hasn't taken a courageous stand on issues since at least the early '90s.

    What was one of his major issues in the '90s, early 2000s?

    It was "Folks, we gotta lower the minimum wage 'cause it doesn't make sense to raise it at all. Once you start raising it a few dollars an hr, where's the insanity gonna end? Why don't we just raise the minimum wage to 100 bucks an hr? Wont that make sense?"

    That was basically his major issue for years. That and how evil bad Bill Clinton was.

    You also forgot a fourth reason during the 2000s period you mentioned: He was charged with illegal doctor shopping for prescription drugs. Or is that been so thrown down the memory hole no one's supposed to remember that and the fact that he had half a dozen high powered attorneys (not to mention a good friend, Gov. Jeb! of FL at the time) to help get the charges dismissed. Some victim of liberalism.

    Still not sure how an out of touch with conservative issues plutocrat whose personal wealth would make Mitt blush, who wasn't allowed to purchase an NFL franchise, and wasn't allowed to remain on ESPN is a victim of anything. Maybe, he just wasn't all that on ESPN and would've eventually gotten the axe for doing a poor job. Guess his bid to purchase ESPN stock also fell through as well so then he obviously must be a victim of something.

    Question: Anyone want to bet that Rush regularly reads Vdare or is familiar with its major arguments vs unlimited immigration? Not that he'd admit to it on his show.

    The point is, as Peter Brimelow has made quite clear over the years, Rush has had ample time to publicly raise many of the issues that other lesser known conservatives who work mainly in print (e.g. Brimelow on immigration or the late Sam Francis on traditional conservatism) have consistently been making. There's even a strong chance that he's not entirely familiar with John Derbyshire, this blog, and others. If Pat Buchanan's name comes up, its more of a disdain along lines of "Oh, yes, Pat. Didn't he run for something about 20yrs ago....and lose?" In other words, Rush measures success by one thing, and that's the bottom line.

    Forget even thinking he'll admit that he's familiar with Jared Taylor's writings. That last name would definitely take a courageous stance in this day and age to cop to and this man isn't about to put himself out there for anything that might make him lose any more sponsors.

    Rush's original two conservative heroes by his own admission: Bill Buckley and George Will and both men to a certain extent supported open borders. Not exactly principled paragons of conservatism whether at the time or now.

    And that's the thing. Over the last few decades, the words "patriotic immigration" just don't come up when you say the name Limbaugh, whereas mistakes in personal life and wanting to become an NFL owner/ESPN co-host do. Pretty much tells you all about him. He sold out years ago.
  19. @Stan
    George Soros is a devotee of Karl Popper, the theorist of the Open Society. TS Eliot criticized Popper for divorcing philosophy from moral imagination and thus severing culture from its religious roots. TS Eliot advocated the recovery of Christian community. There are no Christian thinkers in the West today who criticize the dangers of a liberal democracy and the open society.

    Mutti Merkel will cause a lot of whimpering in Germany and neighboring countries, but other citizens there may decide to end things, contra Eliot, with a bang.

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    @Lot
    Sorry my last post was so long. Here is my GOP Primary Targets page, please have a look and add to it:

    http://target16.wikia.com

    What’s been happening with Dave Brat, the guy who knocked off Cantor?

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  21. Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving “retroactively” East European Jewry. National borders were one of the main causes of millions being trapped under genocidal regimes. Of course he wants to soften and open up nationalist, fascist regimes like Mr Orban’s. It is being done on the open, and Orban and Soros acknowledge it. No conspiracy. The use of “inadvertently” by Orban reveals that he is not a conspiracy idiot, but a honest leader doing what he thinks is the best for his people. We should respect Orban and Soros.

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    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving “retroactively” East European Jewry. National borders were one of the main causes of millions being trapped under genocidal regimes.
     
    No, it was the failure of borders that had this result.
    , @William Badwhite
    "Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving “retroactively” East European Jewry...We should respect Orban and Soros."

    If you are correct and Soros acting because of some weird "obsession" about retroactively saving Jews, why is that admirable? He's actively attacking a society that has taken in his people and despite the whining about country clubs, etc has treated them extremely well.

    And if "saving" Jews is his goal, how is encouraging hundreds of thousands of violent unemployable muslims to invade Europe going to help?

    He's either crazy or evil, pick one. Neither is admirable.
    , @schmenz
    "...fascist regimes like Mr Orban’s. "

    What utter rubbish.
  22. @Svigor

    Inadvertently?

    I don’t believe there is a conspiracy in the usual sense of the word, but Soros and many of his ilk hold views that are hostile to the idea of a blood-and-soil nation state.
     
    Really? If that were true, you'd think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. If they're going by power of the practioners of blood and soil nationalism, and their degree of blood and soilyness, I mean. If they just want to rack up wins they should start with Liberia, maybe swing by Rwanda.

    But, oddly enough, they seem really interested in Europe instead.

    (I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we're not reading about his aggression against Israel. Or any of his target-selection, really)

    Really? If that were true, you’d think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. … I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we’re not reading about his aggression against Israel.

    Being an anti-Semite is nice because it means you know everything about the Jews, no need to spend 15 seconds on Google when you know it all.

    Billionaire George Soros’ philanthropy is bad news for Israel, according to an in-depth report from the NGO-Monitor watchdog group.

    The report listed the many causes in Israel, or pertaining to Israel, that are funded by Soros’ Open Society Foundations.

    Another recipient of OSF funding is the Institute for Middle East Understanding, which, NGO-Monitor reports, is headed by staff who have accused Israel of war crimes and have termed Israel an “apartheid state.”

    Among the Israeli recipients is Adalah, which promotes the so-called “right of return” to Israel, which would allow millions of descendants of Arabs who fled Israel during the War of Independence to claim Israel as their home

    OSF also funds Al Haq, an Arab organization based in the Palestinian Authority-controlled city of Ramallah, north of Jerusalem. NGO-Monitor’s researchers described Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin as “a human rights campaigner by day and a terrorist by night,” who is among the senior members of the PFLP terrorist group.

    The extreme-left Israeli group B’Tselem also receives OSF funds. B’Tselem is notorious for publishing one-sided reports, and for inflating Arab civilian casualty figures. For example, the group included hundreds of Hamas policemen in Gaza as “non-combatants,” and counted Sheikh Ahmed Yassin – then the leader of Hamas – as not a definite combatant.

    The report listed several other controversial, far-left Israeli groups that receive direct or indirect OSF Funding, including Rabbis for Human Rights, Ir Amim, Yesh Din and the New Israel Fund.

    Soros Fund Management, the family office of the billionaire investor George Soros, has sold its stake in SodaStream, the soda making appliance producer that profits from the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and was made popular by actress Scarlett Johansson’s endorsement.

    The decision comes as a number of big international investors, including the fund linked to the Microsoft founder Bill Gates, join in a burgeoning financial boycott of Israel amid a push by the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement and other groups seeking more rights for Palestinians.

    SodaStream, headquartered in the Israeli city of Lod, has its main factory in the West Bank settlement of Ma’ale Adumim.

    From a 2007 article written by Soros himself:

    … Israel, with the strong backing of the United States, refused to recognize the democratically elected Hamas government.

    One explanation is to be found in the pervasive influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which strongly affects both the Democratic and the Republican parties. AIPAC’s mission is to ensure American support for Israel but in recent years it has overreached itself. It became closely allied with the neocons and was an enthusiastic supporter of the invasion of Iraq.

    Whether the Democratic Party can liberate itself from AIPAC’s influence is highly doubtful. Any politician who dares to expose AIPAC’s influence would incur its wrath … Israel’s policies of occupation, control, and repression on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem and Gaza … AIPAC has been so successful in suppressing criticism …

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    • Replies: @Larry, San Francisco
    Whether or not you think Soros' plans are part of some Jewish plot against white policies. His policies are objectively bad for real Jews. He covertly supported the anti Israeli Jewish group J Street. Supporting open borders in Europe with the onslaught of young Muslim men will cause Hitler's dream to come true. Europe will be judenrein in less than 2 generations.
    , @el topo
    Indeed. The Jew thing is more complicated and nuanced than pattern-simplifiers (anti-semites) or pattern-deniers (philo-semites) would have it.
    , @Stan d Mute

    Being an anti-Semite is nice because it means you know everything about the Jews, no need to spend 15 seconds on Google when you know it all.
     
    Being an anti-Jew (more accurate than anti-Semite yes?) is nice because it allows you to join The Victim Club. "Those omnipotent evil genius villain Jews are out to get us. We are Victims just like the poor nappy heads!" I think the anti-Jews want to join Hillary's Coalition of the Victims and have her take up the cause for them.
  23. “Soros said in an e-mailed statement that a six-point plan published by his foundation helps ‘uphold European values’ while Orban’s actions ‘undermine those values.’”

    I wonder which “European values” Orban is undermining? Orban’s popularity ratings are skyrocketing, while Merkel’s are tanking. Austria and Poland just moved emphatically to the right, while the nationalist party in Sweden, which has seen its support double in elections every four years for the last two decades, has already seen its support double in the one year since the 2014 elections. I guess “European values” don’t include ideas like, oh, doing what your citizens want you to do.

    That, to me, has been one of the more remarkable facts of the migrant crisis. Because it’s affecting numerous countries rather than just one, we get to see how both citizens and the international press treat the way different politicians are reacting. The press and various NGOs continually talk about the obligation of democratically-elected leaders to ignore both the rule of law and the will of their voters. Democracy and rule of law no exist when either manages to serve conservative, national interests.

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    • Replies: @BurplesonAFB
    European ValuesⓊ especially do not include the values of Europeans.

    In fact, the values of Europeans are some of the chief obstacles to European ValuesⓊ.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    If they can bring enough people in quickly enough, rightward movements aren't going to matter and, as well, will dissipate their energy over a sense of uselessness. In fact, it is now a race for European politicians... can they keep up the pace of immigration so that the point of no return can be reached before they themselves are rejected by voters.

    Do Europeans have the ability to load refugees onto trains and ship them back to the Middle East and Africa? No way. They might vote for immigration restriction, but one hint of cattle cars and it'll be all over for their nerve.
  24. Soros said in an e-mailed statement that a six-point plan published by his foundation helps “uphold European values” while Orban’s actions “undermine those values.”

    Don’t you just love being lectured on European values by Hitler’s census-taker? With an Esperanto surname, no less.

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  25. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Svigor

    Inadvertently?

    I don’t believe there is a conspiracy in the usual sense of the word, but Soros and many of his ilk hold views that are hostile to the idea of a blood-and-soil nation state.
     
    Really? If that were true, you'd think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. If they're going by power of the practioners of blood and soil nationalism, and their degree of blood and soilyness, I mean. If they just want to rack up wins they should start with Liberia, maybe swing by Rwanda.

    But, oddly enough, they seem really interested in Europe instead.

    (I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we're not reading about his aggression against Israel. Or any of his target-selection, really)

    Soros is no friend of Israel or his fellow Jews and has never been. He is most committed to more profit opportunities for himself and open borders everywhere.

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    Soros is no friend of Israel or his fellow Jews and has never been. He is most committed to more profit opportunities for himself and open borders everywhere.

    Except for open borders for Israel.
  26. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    We should respect Orban and Soros.

    We should most definitely not respect Soros or his position. He needs to be thought of as what he is, someone who has self-selected himself to be an enemy of the traditional West and traditional Western nation states.

    He may be smart, but he’s not smart enough to have any idea of what a mess he’s unleashing. He’s like someone who spits in the salad and then loudly tells everyone about it. If he thinks this is smart, he might be one of those people as clueless as Merkle about estimating human behaviour.

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  27. @Lot

    Really? If that were true, you’d think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. ... I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we’re not reading about his aggression against Israel.
     
    Being an anti-Semite is nice because it means you know everything about the Jews, no need to spend 15 seconds on Google when you know it all.

    Billionaire George Soros’ philanthropy is bad news for Israel, according to an in-depth report from the NGO-Monitor watchdog group.

    The report listed the many causes in Israel, or pertaining to Israel, that are funded by Soros’ Open Society Foundations.

    ...

    Another recipient of OSF funding is the Institute for Middle East Understanding, which, NGO-Monitor reports, is headed by staff who have accused Israel of war crimes and have termed Israel an “apartheid state.”

    Among the Israeli recipients is Adalah, which promotes the so-called “right of return” to Israel, which would allow millions of descendants of Arabs who fled Israel during the War of Independence to claim Israel as their home

    OSF also funds Al Haq, an Arab organization based in the Palestinian Authority-controlled city of Ramallah, north of Jerusalem. NGO-Monitor’s researchers described Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin as “a human rights campaigner by day and a terrorist by night,” who is among the senior members of the PFLP terrorist group.

    The extreme-left Israeli group B’Tselem also receives OSF funds. B’Tselem is notorious for publishing one-sided reports, and for inflating Arab civilian casualty figures. For example, the group included hundreds of Hamas policemen in Gaza as “non-combatants,” and counted Sheikh Ahmed Yassin – then the leader of Hamas – as not a definite combatant.

    ...

    The report listed several other controversial, far-left Israeli groups that receive direct or indirect OSF Funding, including Rabbis for Human Rights, Ir Amim, Yesh Din and the New Israel Fund.

     

    ...


    Soros Fund Management, the family office of the billionaire investor George Soros, has sold its stake in SodaStream, the soda making appliance producer that profits from the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and was made popular by actress Scarlett Johansson’s endorsement.

    The decision comes as a number of big international investors, including the fund linked to the Microsoft founder Bill Gates, join in a burgeoning financial boycott of Israel amid a push by the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement and other groups seeking more rights for Palestinians.

    SodaStream, headquartered in the Israeli city of Lod, has its main factory in the West Bank settlement of Ma’ale Adumim.
     
    ...

    From a 2007 article written by Soros himself:


    ... Israel, with the strong backing of the United States, refused to recognize the democratically elected Hamas government.

    One explanation is to be found in the pervasive influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which strongly affects both the Democratic and the Republican parties. AIPAC’s mission is to ensure American support for Israel but in recent years it has overreached itself. It became closely allied with the neocons and was an enthusiastic supporter of the invasion of Iraq.

    Whether the Democratic Party can liberate itself from AIPAC’s influence is highly doubtful. Any politician who dares to expose AIPAC’s influence would incur its wrath ... Israel’s policies of occupation, control, and repression on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem and Gaza ... AIPAC has been so successful in suppressing criticism ...

     

    Whether or not you think Soros’ plans are part of some Jewish plot against white policies. His policies are objectively bad for real Jews. He covertly supported the anti Israeli Jewish group J Street. Supporting open borders in Europe with the onslaught of young Muslim men will cause Hitler’s dream to come true. Europe will be judenrein in less than 2 generations.

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  28. @Wilkey
    "Soros said in an e-mailed statement that a six-point plan published by his foundation helps 'uphold European values' while Orban’s actions 'undermine those values.'"

    I wonder which "European values" Orban is undermining? Orban's popularity ratings are skyrocketing, while Merkel's are tanking. Austria and Poland just moved emphatically to the right, while the nationalist party in Sweden, which has seen its support double in elections every four years for the last two decades, has already seen its support double in the one year since the 2014 elections. I guess "European values" don't include ideas like, oh, doing what your citizens want you to do.

    That, to me, has been one of the more remarkable facts of the migrant crisis. Because it's affecting numerous countries rather than just one, we get to see how both citizens and the international press treat the way different politicians are reacting. The press and various NGOs continually talk about the obligation of democratically-elected leaders to ignore both the rule of law and the will of their voters. Democracy and rule of law no exist when either manages to serve conservative, national interests.

    European ValuesⓊ especially do not include the values of Europeans.

    In fact, the values of Europeans are some of the chief obstacles to European ValuesⓊ.

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  29. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    Soros is no friend of Israel or his fellow Jews and has never been. He is most committed to more profit opportunities for himself and open borders everywhere.

    Soros is no friend of Israel or his fellow Jews and has never been. He is most committed to more profit opportunities for himself and open borders everywhere.

    Except for open borders for Israel.

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    • Replies: @Talpiot
    Soros would definitely support open borders for Israel. Do you know anything about the work of the Open Society Foundations Middle East Program?

    Your anti-Jewish sentiment is blinding you to the facts. Soros has no allegiance to Jewish causes and his Foundations network is extremely hostile to Israel.
  30. Soros is a guilty businessman who thinks he can make up making millions (billions?) out of destructive speculation by becoming a model left-wing liberal. He isn’t pushing anything that isn’t supported by the majority of White and Jewish liberals.

    Howver, conspiracy theories are the life-blood of populism, and his conspicious meddling serves the coming populist backlash nicely.

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  31. @J
    Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving "retroactively" East European Jewry. National borders were one of the main causes of millions being trapped under genocidal regimes. Of course he wants to soften and open up nationalist, fascist regimes like Mr Orban's. It is being done on the open, and Orban and Soros acknowledge it. No conspiracy. The use of "inadvertently" by Orban reveals that he is not a conspiracy idiot, but a honest leader doing what he thinks is the best for his people. We should respect Orban and Soros.

    Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving “retroactively” East European Jewry. National borders were one of the main causes of millions being trapped under genocidal regimes.

    No, it was the failure of borders that had this result.

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  32. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I remember writing to David Limbaugh, in response to a column of his 15 years ago, asking what was wrong with his brother that he did not talk more about immigration. Back then, Rush was still interested, at least somewhat in mainstream respectability.

    Then three things happened:

    - He got fired from ESPN in 2003 for making the entirely unremarkable comment that the mainstream media was desirous of seeing black NFL quarterbacks do well,

    - His subsequent detainment at a general aviation airport upon his return from the Dominican Republic on trumped up drug charges (i.e. prescription ED meds)

    - And finally the NFL owners denying his application to be a minority (5-10%) owner of the St. Louis Rams.

    I am sure those 3 events caused him to realize that he was never going to be admitted to "the club," despite his $500M net worth. If that's what pushed him our direction, all I can say is "welcome Rush."

    There’s still no direct evidence that he’s in the patriotic immigration camp. Let’s not so quickly forget that this person is for the most part a plutocrat and hasn’t taken a courageous stand on issues since at least the early ’90s.

    What was one of his major issues in the ’90s, early 2000s?

    It was “Folks, we gotta lower the minimum wage ’cause it doesn’t make sense to raise it at all. Once you start raising it a few dollars an hr, where’s the insanity gonna end? Why don’t we just raise the minimum wage to 100 bucks an hr? Wont that make sense?”

    That was basically his major issue for years. That and how evil bad Bill Clinton was.

    You also forgot a fourth reason during the 2000s period you mentioned: He was charged with illegal doctor shopping for prescription drugs. Or is that been so thrown down the memory hole no one’s supposed to remember that and the fact that he had half a dozen high powered attorneys (not to mention a good friend, Gov. Jeb! of FL at the time) to help get the charges dismissed. Some victim of liberalism.

    Still not sure how an out of touch with conservative issues plutocrat whose personal wealth would make Mitt blush, who wasn’t allowed to purchase an NFL franchise, and wasn’t allowed to remain on ESPN is a victim of anything. Maybe, he just wasn’t all that on ESPN and would’ve eventually gotten the axe for doing a poor job. Guess his bid to purchase ESPN stock also fell through as well so then he obviously must be a victim of something.

    Question: Anyone want to bet that Rush regularly reads Vdare or is familiar with its major arguments vs unlimited immigration? Not that he’d admit to it on his show.

    The point is, as Peter Brimelow has made quite clear over the years, Rush has had ample time to publicly raise many of the issues that other lesser known conservatives who work mainly in print (e.g. Brimelow on immigration or the late Sam Francis on traditional conservatism) have consistently been making. There’s even a strong chance that he’s not entirely familiar with John Derbyshire, this blog, and others. If Pat Buchanan’s name comes up, its more of a disdain along lines of “Oh, yes, Pat. Didn’t he run for something about 20yrs ago….and lose?” In other words, Rush measures success by one thing, and that’s the bottom line.

    Forget even thinking he’ll admit that he’s familiar with Jared Taylor’s writings. That last name would definitely take a courageous stance in this day and age to cop to and this man isn’t about to put himself out there for anything that might make him lose any more sponsors.

    Rush’s original two conservative heroes by his own admission: Bill Buckley and George Will and both men to a certain extent supported open borders. Not exactly principled paragons of conservatism whether at the time or now.

    And that’s the thing. Over the last few decades, the words “patriotic immigration” just don’t come up when you say the name Limbaugh, whereas mistakes in personal life and wanting to become an NFL owner/ESPN co-host do. Pretty much tells you all about him. He sold out years ago.

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  33. “Soros is a guilty businessman who thinks he can make up making millions (billions?) out of destructive speculation by becoming a model left-wing liberal. ”

    Calling Soros a ‘businessman’ is an insult to those who make products or deliver services, or even those who finance the same.

    Soros is a currency trader — his ‘wealth’ came from a zero-sum game.

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  34. Soros cleverly claims to be taking the side of people (refugees) vs. abstraction (nation-states).

    The answer is that

    1) Protection of ‘the refugee’ does no necessitate their mass migration to countries thousands of kilometers away from their homelands (via safe polities).

    2) That far from protecting refugees, encourage exoduses inevitably leads to more deaths and more exploitation and

    3) That people (citizens of nation-states) want to be protected themselves. That is, the nation-state provides protection, the ‘Open Society Foundation’ not so much.

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  35. @Lot
    OT:

    I am starting a wiki/crowdsource list of Republicans to target in the 2016 primaries coming up.

    Trump being on the primary ballot could be a very rare opportunity to beat, Eric Cantor style, some house republicans who are soft on amnesty by bringing out patriotic voters to vote in the GOP presidential primary / caucuses. Maybe Trump will even fund some voter ID and turnout operations.

    Only beating one incumbent, or even just giving a couple of them a serious scare, will have a very positive effect on all the other House Republicans as the Chamber of Commerce/Speaker Ryan dangle big donations in front of them in exchange for selling out the American people.

    To start, I used the NumbersUSA list of house republicans with the lowest lifetime score. Then I used a combination of sources: wikipedia, NumbersUSA, and google searches to add additional information about their potential vulnerabilities.

    The "ideal" target (1) lacks seniority (2) is not in a super-expensive media market (3) has done poorly in GOP primaries in the past (4) is not in California or Louisiana which has "top 2" or "jungle primaries" that make it hard to challenge a incumbent from the right (or from the far left for that matter).

    Of course, we don't have to limit ourselves to such targets, Eric Cantor only satisfied 2 and 4.

    After finding the best few targets, we can look to see which patriotic republicans have run in the past or expressed interest in running, and start writing them e-mails telling them if they jump in they will have our support.

    I hope some of you all will be interested enough to help me with this research. My initial work took about 2 hours and I can't do it all myself. I will put all this in a wiki shortly and also incorporate any replies to me here.

    PVI means how the district voted for President compared with the rest of the country. So GOP +1 means the district voted for Obama, but 1 point more narrowly than the USA Average.

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    First Group of Amnesty Republicans - Florida Cubans

    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen FL 27
    Mario Diaz-Balart FL 25
    Carlos Curbelo FL 26

    Probably hard to win these Cuban districts
    An anti-amnesty Republican might not be able to win in the general election either

    Group 2 - San Joaquin Valley Republicans

    Jeff Denham CA 10

    Northern San Joaquin Valley, includes Modesto, Tracy, and some extreme Silicon Valley commuters
    PVI +1 GOP
    46.4% White
    40.1% Hispanic
    7.7% Asian
    3.7% Black


    Devin Nunes CA 22
    Southern San Joaquin Valley
    Includes parts of Fresno (north end and N and E suburbs) but mostly rural
    PVI +10 GOP

    44.8% Hispanic
    42.4% White
    7.3% Asian,
    2.8% Black

    GOP primary would be tough in these districts since the local economy relies on illegal farm labor

    California's jungle primary also makes it much harder to knock off pro-amnesty Republicans. Could drive the district's hispanic turnout too.

    Group Three - Great Lakes

    Unlike FL and CA, the Great Lakes states have many great targets.

    Susan Brooks IN 5

    District is the nicer suburbs of Indianapolis plus some farm country and rustbelt small towns
    She's a sophomore in Dan Burton's old district
    Burton had an A rating, Brooks has a D


    PVI +11 GOP

    94.1% White
    2.6% Black
    1.3% Asian
    1.6% Hispanic

    She won her open seat primary in 2012 by 1 point against David McIntosh who is also pro-amnesty.

    Indiana is a fairly cheap place to run for office and has some very conservative GOP primary voters. Probably the single best target I have found.


    Rodney Davis IL 13

    District includes St Louis suburbs and large area of central illinois including Champaign, Urbana, and Decatur

    Davis is a freshman and very vulnerable to a Democrat, PVI of zero or even
    82.7% White, 11.3% Black, 3.5% Asian, 3.1% Hispanic

    Won the open seat GOP primary by beating Erika Harold, 2003's Miss America who is also pro-amnesty

    Would be vulnerable in a primary, and even if we lose a Dem could knock him off in the general and a better Republican could retake the seat in 2018.


    Mike Turner OH 10

    Dayton, most of its suburbs, a few agricultural counties to the east

    Turner is the former Republican mayor of the City of Dayton, which he won despite it being 40% black (the suburbs are mostly 90%+ white)

    PVI only is +2 GOP but Turner is considered safe from Dems, he is the anti-Romney, able to win blue collar Democrats in large numbers

    77.41% White
    17.13% Black
    2.11% Asian
    2.43% Hispanic

    He is not a good fundraiser, and Dayton is a very cheap media market.
    In summary, Turner is golden in general elections with his cross-over appeal and high approval rating, but this is the type of area Trump polls best in and Turner could be vulnerable based on his amnesty voters. He has also been in politics, like Cantor, for a long time and can be attacked on this basis.

    Mike Bost IL 12

    St. Louis suburbs and rural southern IL
    PVI of 0

    79.0% White
    17.1% Black
    3.0% Hispanic
    1.1% Asian

    Was not opposed at all in 2014 primary

    Defeated an awful Dem incumbent who in 2012 with high Dem turnout, won by 10 points. Good chance of Dems winning district in 2016.

    John Moolenaar MI 4
    the district starts in Lansing's northern suburbs and extend to include most north-central Michigan
    PVI +4 GOP
    92.6% White
    1.8% Black
    2.7% Hispanic
    0.9% Asian

    Moolenaar is a freshman who won GOP primary againt Paul Mitchell, despite Mitchell spending $5 million of his own money

    While Mitchell had some vague anti-immigration statements on his website, he refused to answer the pointed questions in the NumbersUSA survey

    May be very hard to beat after his 2014 win. Best case might be Moolenaar loses to a Democrat in 2016 and a better Republican runs and wins in 2018.

    The area is rural and blue-collar enough a Democrat might run to Moolenaar's right on immigration in 2016.


    He replaced Dave Camp, who was an excellent and thoughtful Republican who did a surprise retirement after only 2 terms in response to the corporate lobbies killing his tax reform plan.

    Camp had a B+ rating compared to Moolenaar's D, so getting him back out of retirement might be the best shot.

    Barbara Comstock VA 10

    Freshman in the DC's richest suburbs
    Beloved by immigration patriots like Levin and Limbaugh because of her long record of warmongering and anti-Clinton activism
    Awful record but probably impossible to beat given the district demographics


    Further research required for the following amnesty Republicans

    Pat Tiberi OH 12
    Mark Sanford SC 1
    Steve Pearce NM 2
    Elise Stefanik NY 21
    John Katko NY 24
    Tom MacArthur NJ 3
    David Valadao CA 21
    Ryan Costello PA 6
    Cresent Hardy NV 4
    William Hurd TX 23
    Ann Wagner MO 2
    Markwayne Mullin OK 2
    Andy Barr KY 6
    Adam Kinzinger IL 16
    Martha McSally AZ 2

    The follow Republicans have more mixed records, but are in solid conservative districts that should have solid immigration patiots:

    Chris Smith NJ 4
    Garret Graves LA 6
    French Hill AR 2
    Tom Emmer MN 6 (freshman who took over Michele Bachmann's conservative district)

    Have you tried contacting anyone at NumbersUSA or any of the other immigration organizations? What about VDare or sites like that?

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  36. @Lot
    OT:

    I am starting a wiki/crowdsource list of Republicans to target in the 2016 primaries coming up.

    Trump being on the primary ballot could be a very rare opportunity to beat, Eric Cantor style, some house republicans who are soft on amnesty by bringing out patriotic voters to vote in the GOP presidential primary / caucuses. Maybe Trump will even fund some voter ID and turnout operations.

    Only beating one incumbent, or even just giving a couple of them a serious scare, will have a very positive effect on all the other House Republicans as the Chamber of Commerce/Speaker Ryan dangle big donations in front of them in exchange for selling out the American people.

    To start, I used the NumbersUSA list of house republicans with the lowest lifetime score. Then I used a combination of sources: wikipedia, NumbersUSA, and google searches to add additional information about their potential vulnerabilities.

    The "ideal" target (1) lacks seniority (2) is not in a super-expensive media market (3) has done poorly in GOP primaries in the past (4) is not in California or Louisiana which has "top 2" or "jungle primaries" that make it hard to challenge a incumbent from the right (or from the far left for that matter).

    Of course, we don't have to limit ourselves to such targets, Eric Cantor only satisfied 2 and 4.

    After finding the best few targets, we can look to see which patriotic republicans have run in the past or expressed interest in running, and start writing them e-mails telling them if they jump in they will have our support.

    I hope some of you all will be interested enough to help me with this research. My initial work took about 2 hours and I can't do it all myself. I will put all this in a wiki shortly and also incorporate any replies to me here.

    PVI means how the district voted for President compared with the rest of the country. So GOP +1 means the district voted for Obama, but 1 point more narrowly than the USA Average.

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    First Group of Amnesty Republicans - Florida Cubans

    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen FL 27
    Mario Diaz-Balart FL 25
    Carlos Curbelo FL 26

    Probably hard to win these Cuban districts
    An anti-amnesty Republican might not be able to win in the general election either

    Group 2 - San Joaquin Valley Republicans

    Jeff Denham CA 10

    Northern San Joaquin Valley, includes Modesto, Tracy, and some extreme Silicon Valley commuters
    PVI +1 GOP
    46.4% White
    40.1% Hispanic
    7.7% Asian
    3.7% Black


    Devin Nunes CA 22
    Southern San Joaquin Valley
    Includes parts of Fresno (north end and N and E suburbs) but mostly rural
    PVI +10 GOP

    44.8% Hispanic
    42.4% White
    7.3% Asian,
    2.8% Black

    GOP primary would be tough in these districts since the local economy relies on illegal farm labor

    California's jungle primary also makes it much harder to knock off pro-amnesty Republicans. Could drive the district's hispanic turnout too.

    Group Three - Great Lakes

    Unlike FL and CA, the Great Lakes states have many great targets.

    Susan Brooks IN 5

    District is the nicer suburbs of Indianapolis plus some farm country and rustbelt small towns
    She's a sophomore in Dan Burton's old district
    Burton had an A rating, Brooks has a D


    PVI +11 GOP

    94.1% White
    2.6% Black
    1.3% Asian
    1.6% Hispanic

    She won her open seat primary in 2012 by 1 point against David McIntosh who is also pro-amnesty.

    Indiana is a fairly cheap place to run for office and has some very conservative GOP primary voters. Probably the single best target I have found.


    Rodney Davis IL 13

    District includes St Louis suburbs and large area of central illinois including Champaign, Urbana, and Decatur

    Davis is a freshman and very vulnerable to a Democrat, PVI of zero or even
    82.7% White, 11.3% Black, 3.5% Asian, 3.1% Hispanic

    Won the open seat GOP primary by beating Erika Harold, 2003's Miss America who is also pro-amnesty

    Would be vulnerable in a primary, and even if we lose a Dem could knock him off in the general and a better Republican could retake the seat in 2018.


    Mike Turner OH 10

    Dayton, most of its suburbs, a few agricultural counties to the east

    Turner is the former Republican mayor of the City of Dayton, which he won despite it being 40% black (the suburbs are mostly 90%+ white)

    PVI only is +2 GOP but Turner is considered safe from Dems, he is the anti-Romney, able to win blue collar Democrats in large numbers

    77.41% White
    17.13% Black
    2.11% Asian
    2.43% Hispanic

    He is not a good fundraiser, and Dayton is a very cheap media market.
    In summary, Turner is golden in general elections with his cross-over appeal and high approval rating, but this is the type of area Trump polls best in and Turner could be vulnerable based on his amnesty voters. He has also been in politics, like Cantor, for a long time and can be attacked on this basis.

    Mike Bost IL 12

    St. Louis suburbs and rural southern IL
    PVI of 0

    79.0% White
    17.1% Black
    3.0% Hispanic
    1.1% Asian

    Was not opposed at all in 2014 primary

    Defeated an awful Dem incumbent who in 2012 with high Dem turnout, won by 10 points. Good chance of Dems winning district in 2016.

    John Moolenaar MI 4
    the district starts in Lansing's northern suburbs and extend to include most north-central Michigan
    PVI +4 GOP
    92.6% White
    1.8% Black
    2.7% Hispanic
    0.9% Asian

    Moolenaar is a freshman who won GOP primary againt Paul Mitchell, despite Mitchell spending $5 million of his own money

    While Mitchell had some vague anti-immigration statements on his website, he refused to answer the pointed questions in the NumbersUSA survey

    May be very hard to beat after his 2014 win. Best case might be Moolenaar loses to a Democrat in 2016 and a better Republican runs and wins in 2018.

    The area is rural and blue-collar enough a Democrat might run to Moolenaar's right on immigration in 2016.


    He replaced Dave Camp, who was an excellent and thoughtful Republican who did a surprise retirement after only 2 terms in response to the corporate lobbies killing his tax reform plan.

    Camp had a B+ rating compared to Moolenaar's D, so getting him back out of retirement might be the best shot.

    Barbara Comstock VA 10

    Freshman in the DC's richest suburbs
    Beloved by immigration patriots like Levin and Limbaugh because of her long record of warmongering and anti-Clinton activism
    Awful record but probably impossible to beat given the district demographics


    Further research required for the following amnesty Republicans

    Pat Tiberi OH 12
    Mark Sanford SC 1
    Steve Pearce NM 2
    Elise Stefanik NY 21
    John Katko NY 24
    Tom MacArthur NJ 3
    David Valadao CA 21
    Ryan Costello PA 6
    Cresent Hardy NV 4
    William Hurd TX 23
    Ann Wagner MO 2
    Markwayne Mullin OK 2
    Andy Barr KY 6
    Adam Kinzinger IL 16
    Martha McSally AZ 2

    The follow Republicans have more mixed records, but are in solid conservative districts that should have solid immigration patiots:

    Chris Smith NJ 4
    Garret Graves LA 6
    French Hill AR 2
    Tom Emmer MN 6 (freshman who took over Michele Bachmann's conservative district)

    Great work! A plumber in Colorado used an iphone and a public voter registration list a couple years ago to recall two state senators and humiliate Bloomberg in a similar fashion.

    What you are doing has precedent and can be done.

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  37. @Anonymous
    Soros is no friend of Israel or his fellow Jews and has never been. He is most committed to more profit opportunities for himself and open borders everywhere.

    Except for open borders for Israel.

    Soros would definitely support open borders for Israel. Do you know anything about the work of the Open Society Foundations Middle East Program?

    Your anti-Jewish sentiment is blinding you to the facts. Soros has no allegiance to Jewish causes and his Foundations network is extremely hostile to Israel.

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    How is he hostile to Israel ?
    , @Nico
    If Soros is hostile to Israel and to traditional/theological/religious Judaism and to the Likud-allied government, he and his family are certainly self-conscious of their Jewish identity and of the role of this people in the world qua a distinct people.
    , @Big Bill
    Sadly, we are not responsible for our individual sins alone, but each shares in his own tribal guilt.

    Ask the Germans. They teach their children of their share in Germany's blood-guilt to this very day.

    My children were steeped in blood guilt in middle school Holocaust education classes and college lectures on "white privilege".
  38. @Wilkey
    "Soros said in an e-mailed statement that a six-point plan published by his foundation helps 'uphold European values' while Orban’s actions 'undermine those values.'"

    I wonder which "European values" Orban is undermining? Orban's popularity ratings are skyrocketing, while Merkel's are tanking. Austria and Poland just moved emphatically to the right, while the nationalist party in Sweden, which has seen its support double in elections every four years for the last two decades, has already seen its support double in the one year since the 2014 elections. I guess "European values" don't include ideas like, oh, doing what your citizens want you to do.

    That, to me, has been one of the more remarkable facts of the migrant crisis. Because it's affecting numerous countries rather than just one, we get to see how both citizens and the international press treat the way different politicians are reacting. The press and various NGOs continually talk about the obligation of democratically-elected leaders to ignore both the rule of law and the will of their voters. Democracy and rule of law no exist when either manages to serve conservative, national interests.

    If they can bring enough people in quickly enough, rightward movements aren’t going to matter and, as well, will dissipate their energy over a sense of uselessness. In fact, it is now a race for European politicians… can they keep up the pace of immigration so that the point of no return can be reached before they themselves are rejected by voters.

    Do Europeans have the ability to load refugees onto trains and ship them back to the Middle East and Africa? No way. They might vote for immigration restriction, but one hint of cattle cars and it’ll be all over for their nerve.

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  39. @George
    Europe through NATO spent the last 15 years tormenting these people. So I see nothing less than devine retribution for German and other war profiteering. I really think they deserve what is happening.

    If they don't like it they can hire the Chinese to rebuild Syria.

    538 discusses Baltimore shooting data.
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/murder-rates-dont-tell-us-everything-about-gun-violence/

    If this “divine retribution” destroys Germany and France then it will also destroy Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, etc.

    “After us, the deluge!” is hardly a constructive paradigm.

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    The migration is a consequence of long term GWOT policy and European war profiteering. So I see it as the Euros getting what they deserve. Hungary is in NATO so they were part of the regime change policy. Any time the Euros want to rebuild Syria and send the migrants back they can, so I have no sympathy of them. I dont think anti immigration types should show much sympathy either, they caused it and if they want to fix it they can.
  40. @Lot

    Really? If that were true, you’d think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. ... I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we’re not reading about his aggression against Israel.
     
    Being an anti-Semite is nice because it means you know everything about the Jews, no need to spend 15 seconds on Google when you know it all.

    Billionaire George Soros’ philanthropy is bad news for Israel, according to an in-depth report from the NGO-Monitor watchdog group.

    The report listed the many causes in Israel, or pertaining to Israel, that are funded by Soros’ Open Society Foundations.

    ...

    Another recipient of OSF funding is the Institute for Middle East Understanding, which, NGO-Monitor reports, is headed by staff who have accused Israel of war crimes and have termed Israel an “apartheid state.”

    Among the Israeli recipients is Adalah, which promotes the so-called “right of return” to Israel, which would allow millions of descendants of Arabs who fled Israel during the War of Independence to claim Israel as their home

    OSF also funds Al Haq, an Arab organization based in the Palestinian Authority-controlled city of Ramallah, north of Jerusalem. NGO-Monitor’s researchers described Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin as “a human rights campaigner by day and a terrorist by night,” who is among the senior members of the PFLP terrorist group.

    The extreme-left Israeli group B’Tselem also receives OSF funds. B’Tselem is notorious for publishing one-sided reports, and for inflating Arab civilian casualty figures. For example, the group included hundreds of Hamas policemen in Gaza as “non-combatants,” and counted Sheikh Ahmed Yassin – then the leader of Hamas – as not a definite combatant.

    ...

    The report listed several other controversial, far-left Israeli groups that receive direct or indirect OSF Funding, including Rabbis for Human Rights, Ir Amim, Yesh Din and the New Israel Fund.

     

    ...


    Soros Fund Management, the family office of the billionaire investor George Soros, has sold its stake in SodaStream, the soda making appliance producer that profits from the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and was made popular by actress Scarlett Johansson’s endorsement.

    The decision comes as a number of big international investors, including the fund linked to the Microsoft founder Bill Gates, join in a burgeoning financial boycott of Israel amid a push by the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement and other groups seeking more rights for Palestinians.

    SodaStream, headquartered in the Israeli city of Lod, has its main factory in the West Bank settlement of Ma’ale Adumim.
     
    ...

    From a 2007 article written by Soros himself:


    ... Israel, with the strong backing of the United States, refused to recognize the democratically elected Hamas government.

    One explanation is to be found in the pervasive influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which strongly affects both the Democratic and the Republican parties. AIPAC’s mission is to ensure American support for Israel but in recent years it has overreached itself. It became closely allied with the neocons and was an enthusiastic supporter of the invasion of Iraq.

    Whether the Democratic Party can liberate itself from AIPAC’s influence is highly doubtful. Any politician who dares to expose AIPAC’s influence would incur its wrath ... Israel’s policies of occupation, control, and repression on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem and Gaza ... AIPAC has been so successful in suppressing criticism ...

     

    Indeed. The Jew thing is more complicated and nuanced than pattern-simplifiers (anti-semites) or pattern-deniers (philo-semites) would have it.

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    Indeed. The Jew thing is more complicated and nuanced than pattern-simplifiers (anti-semites) or pattern-deniers (philo-semites) would have it.
     
    No. The noticers can see that the difference between 6,000,000 Jews (remarkable how often that number comes up eh?) and 100,000,000 Evangelicals on the subject of Zionist Supremacism is ... (Warning! Test of noticing ability) ... Yes - it's 94,000,000.

    America isn't a subsidiary of Israel because of the 1.9% Jewish population, but because of the 35% who believe Jeebus ain't comin' back if folks in that desert are wearing the wrong kind of hat. But then admitting and accepting the fact that white bible thumpers are directly responsible for our African and Indian/mestizo infestation along with universal suffrage, welfare, and pretty much all our intractable problems would mean we can't just whine "Victims, we are Victims" but instead must kick some sense into a third of our population. Then again, since Jeebus is a Jew maybe that's what you meant?
  41. @Talpiot
    Soros would definitely support open borders for Israel. Do you know anything about the work of the Open Society Foundations Middle East Program?

    Your anti-Jewish sentiment is blinding you to the facts. Soros has no allegiance to Jewish causes and his Foundations network is extremely hostile to Israel.

    How is he hostile to Israel ?

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    • Replies: @Talpiot
    The Open Society Foundations funds anti-Israel activism, pro-Palestinian causes, and participates (as much as possible) in the BDS boycott movement against Israel.

    OSF is a primary funder of Human Rights Watch, whose Jewish president is monomaniaclly obsessed with Israeli human rights violations.

    I hate to break it to you guys, but this idea you all have that "the Jews" are all working together to destroy the rest of the world while preserving Israel is basically nonsense. The Left, Jewish and non-Jewish, doesn't like Israel or any moderately well-off nation-state.

    I'm writing to you as a non-Jew living in Israel.
  42. And no one’s even mentioned his funding of the Ferguson charade yet. I can think of no finer place to evacuate my bowels than on top of Soros’s grave. Keep that in mind should you happen to be using the location as a dance area.

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  43. @Nico
    If this "divine retribution" destroys Germany and France then it will also destroy Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, etc.

    "After us, the deluge!" is hardly a constructive paradigm.

    The migration is a consequence of long term GWOT policy and European war profiteering. So I see it as the Euros getting what they deserve. Hungary is in NATO so they were part of the regime change policy. Any time the Euros want to rebuild Syria and send the migrants back they can, so I have no sympathy of them. I dont think anti immigration types should show much sympathy either, they caused it and if they want to fix it they can.

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  44. WGG [AKA "World's Greatest Grandson"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    We have an up-and-coming Mini Soros getting involved in the Republican primary. Sources have stated that internationalist Paul Singer is the new billionaire benefactor for Marco Rubio. Breitbart.com has mentioned that Singer is an open borders activist, but I remember reading about Mr. Singer on The Occidental Observer a few months back. This man is much, much worse than simply an open borders activist. He is a Corporate Raider of nations. He destroyed Argentina’s economy and a number of African countries as well. He is the lowest of the low and people need to know it.

    http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/10/31/marco-rubios-new-billionaire-backer-top-funder-open-borders/

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/paul-singer-elliott-republican-fundraiser

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/08/paul-singer-and-universality-of-anti-semitism/

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  45. FWIW Orban received a scholarship from Soros in his youth.

    Soros is bad for every nation on earth. He does not discriminate against Europeans. Most ordinary Jews hate the guy. He helped the Third Reich, causes an economic crisis in Thailand and makes enemies everywhere he goes. Others mentioned above his well known anti-Israel activities.

    He is an equal opportunity misery bearer.

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  46. @Talpiot
    Soros would definitely support open borders for Israel. Do you know anything about the work of the Open Society Foundations Middle East Program?

    Your anti-Jewish sentiment is blinding you to the facts. Soros has no allegiance to Jewish causes and his Foundations network is extremely hostile to Israel.

    If Soros is hostile to Israel and to traditional/theological/religious Judaism and to the Likud-allied government, he and his family are certainly self-conscious of their Jewish identity and of the role of this people in the world qua a distinct people.

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  47. @Talpiot
    Soros would definitely support open borders for Israel. Do you know anything about the work of the Open Society Foundations Middle East Program?

    Your anti-Jewish sentiment is blinding you to the facts. Soros has no allegiance to Jewish causes and his Foundations network is extremely hostile to Israel.

    Sadly, we are not responsible for our individual sins alone, but each shares in his own tribal guilt.

    Ask the Germans. They teach their children of their share in Germany’s blood-guilt to this very day.

    My children were steeped in blood guilt in middle school Holocaust education classes and college lectures on “white privilege”.

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  48. @J
    Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving "retroactively" East European Jewry. National borders were one of the main causes of millions being trapped under genocidal regimes. Of course he wants to soften and open up nationalist, fascist regimes like Mr Orban's. It is being done on the open, and Orban and Soros acknowledge it. No conspiracy. The use of "inadvertently" by Orban reveals that he is not a conspiracy idiot, but a honest leader doing what he thinks is the best for his people. We should respect Orban and Soros.

    “Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving “retroactively” East European Jewry…We should respect Orban and Soros.”

    If you are correct and Soros acting because of some weird “obsession” about retroactively saving Jews, why is that admirable? He’s actively attacking a society that has taken in his people and despite the whining about country clubs, etc has treated them extremely well.

    And if “saving” Jews is his goal, how is encouraging hundreds of thousands of violent unemployable muslims to invade Europe going to help?

    He’s either crazy or evil, pick one. Neither is admirable.

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  49. @Lot

    Really? If that were true, you’d think all their work would go into breaking Japan and Israel. ... I am sure Soros being Jewish has nothing to do with the fact that we’re not reading about his aggression against Israel.
     
    Being an anti-Semite is nice because it means you know everything about the Jews, no need to spend 15 seconds on Google when you know it all.

    Billionaire George Soros’ philanthropy is bad news for Israel, according to an in-depth report from the NGO-Monitor watchdog group.

    The report listed the many causes in Israel, or pertaining to Israel, that are funded by Soros’ Open Society Foundations.

    ...

    Another recipient of OSF funding is the Institute for Middle East Understanding, which, NGO-Monitor reports, is headed by staff who have accused Israel of war crimes and have termed Israel an “apartheid state.”

    Among the Israeli recipients is Adalah, which promotes the so-called “right of return” to Israel, which would allow millions of descendants of Arabs who fled Israel during the War of Independence to claim Israel as their home

    OSF also funds Al Haq, an Arab organization based in the Palestinian Authority-controlled city of Ramallah, north of Jerusalem. NGO-Monitor’s researchers described Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin as “a human rights campaigner by day and a terrorist by night,” who is among the senior members of the PFLP terrorist group.

    The extreme-left Israeli group B’Tselem also receives OSF funds. B’Tselem is notorious for publishing one-sided reports, and for inflating Arab civilian casualty figures. For example, the group included hundreds of Hamas policemen in Gaza as “non-combatants,” and counted Sheikh Ahmed Yassin – then the leader of Hamas – as not a definite combatant.

    ...

    The report listed several other controversial, far-left Israeli groups that receive direct or indirect OSF Funding, including Rabbis for Human Rights, Ir Amim, Yesh Din and the New Israel Fund.

     

    ...


    Soros Fund Management, the family office of the billionaire investor George Soros, has sold its stake in SodaStream, the soda making appliance producer that profits from the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and was made popular by actress Scarlett Johansson’s endorsement.

    The decision comes as a number of big international investors, including the fund linked to the Microsoft founder Bill Gates, join in a burgeoning financial boycott of Israel amid a push by the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement and other groups seeking more rights for Palestinians.

    SodaStream, headquartered in the Israeli city of Lod, has its main factory in the West Bank settlement of Ma’ale Adumim.
     
    ...

    From a 2007 article written by Soros himself:


    ... Israel, with the strong backing of the United States, refused to recognize the democratically elected Hamas government.

    One explanation is to be found in the pervasive influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which strongly affects both the Democratic and the Republican parties. AIPAC’s mission is to ensure American support for Israel but in recent years it has overreached itself. It became closely allied with the neocons and was an enthusiastic supporter of the invasion of Iraq.

    Whether the Democratic Party can liberate itself from AIPAC’s influence is highly doubtful. Any politician who dares to expose AIPAC’s influence would incur its wrath ... Israel’s policies of occupation, control, and repression on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem and Gaza ... AIPAC has been so successful in suppressing criticism ...

     

    Being an anti-Semite is nice because it means you know everything about the Jews, no need to spend 15 seconds on Google when you know it all.

    Being an anti-Jew (more accurate than anti-Semite yes?) is nice because it allows you to join The Victim Club. “Those omnipotent evil genius villain Jews are out to get us. We are Victims just like the poor nappy heads!” I think the anti-Jews want to join Hillary’s Coalition of the Victims and have her take up the cause for them.

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  50. Soros is no friend of Israel or his fellow Jews and has never been. He is most committed to more profit opportunities for himself and open borders everywhere.

    He doesn’t seem to be much of an enemy to Israel, either. Like I said, if he’s picking his targets according to their blood and soilyness, then Israel should be at the top of his list.

    It isn’t.

    Europe should be near the bottom.

    It isn’t.

    Lot can bunch his panties up all he wants.

    Another recipient of OSF funding is the Institute for Middle East Understanding, which, NGO-Monitor reports, is headed by staff who have accused Israel of war crimes and have termed Israel an “apartheid state.”

    O-o-o-h, I’m sure Israel is shivering in her boots. What’s Ferguson or a Syrian Refugee Army compared to that?

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  51. @el topo
    Indeed. The Jew thing is more complicated and nuanced than pattern-simplifiers (anti-semites) or pattern-deniers (philo-semites) would have it.

    Indeed. The Jew thing is more complicated and nuanced than pattern-simplifiers (anti-semites) or pattern-deniers (philo-semites) would have it.

    No. The noticers can see that the difference between 6,000,000 Jews (remarkable how often that number comes up eh?) and 100,000,000 Evangelicals on the subject of Zionist Supremacism is … (Warning! Test of noticing ability) … Yes – it’s 94,000,000.

    America isn’t a subsidiary of Israel because of the 1.9% Jewish population, but because of the 35% who believe Jeebus ain’t comin’ back if folks in that desert are wearing the wrong kind of hat. But then admitting and accepting the fact that white bible thumpers are directly responsible for our African and Indian/mestizo infestation along with universal suffrage, welfare, and pretty much all our intractable problems would mean we can’t just whine “Victims, we are Victims” but instead must kick some sense into a third of our population. Then again, since Jeebus is a Jew maybe that’s what you meant?

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  52. @neutral
    How is he hostile to Israel ?

    The Open Society Foundations funds anti-Israel activism, pro-Palestinian causes, and participates (as much as possible) in the BDS boycott movement against Israel.

    OSF is a primary funder of Human Rights Watch, whose Jewish president is monomaniaclly obsessed with Israeli human rights violations.

    I hate to break it to you guys, but this idea you all have that “the Jews” are all working together to destroy the rest of the world while preserving Israel is basically nonsense. The Left, Jewish and non-Jewish, doesn’t like Israel or any moderately well-off nation-state.

    I’m writing to you as a non-Jew living in Israel.

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    [whose Jewish president is monomaniaclly obsessed with Israeli human rights violations]

    No, he isn't. He spends much more time on Russian "human rights violations", as well as those of all other potential obstacles to US foreign policy.
  53. @J
    Soros, like many old Jews of his generation, is obsessed with saving "retroactively" East European Jewry. National borders were one of the main causes of millions being trapped under genocidal regimes. Of course he wants to soften and open up nationalist, fascist regimes like Mr Orban's. It is being done on the open, and Orban and Soros acknowledge it. No conspiracy. The use of "inadvertently" by Orban reveals that he is not a conspiracy idiot, but a honest leader doing what he thinks is the best for his people. We should respect Orban and Soros.

    “…fascist regimes like Mr Orban’s. ”

    What utter rubbish.

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  54. The Open Society Foundations funds anti-Israel activism, pro-Palestinian causes, and participates (as much as possible) in the BDS boycott movement against Israel.

    OSF is a primary funder of Human Rights Watch, whose Jewish president is monomaniaclly obsessed with Israeli human rights violations.

    I hate to break it to you guys, but this idea you all have that “the Jews” are all working together to destroy the rest of the world while preserving Israel is basically nonsense. The Left, Jewish and non-Jewish, doesn’t like Israel or any moderately well-off nation-state.

    I’m writing to you as a non-Jew living in Israel.

    I hate to break it to you guys, but this idea you have that you are arguing with “the ANTISEMITES!!!” and not your own straw man is totally nonsense.

    Most “Jewish leftists” are phony leftists, essentially no different from the black phony leftists, the brown phony leftists, the Arab phony leftists, etc.

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  55. OSF is a primary funder of Human Rights Watch, whose Jewish president is monomaniaclly obsessed with Israeli human rights violations.

    Insofar as that’s true, that just means he’s a genuine leftist.

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  56. There is a rational explanation for their behavior. Soros (and Orban) are not crazy nor evil. In the case of Soros, he strikes me as pathetic, watch his obsessive frenzy to save retroactively the dead Jewish people of Eastern Europe, and and his titanic effort to change the world in order to secure a tolerant, democratic, safe society for them. If anything, it is tragic and sad. It is also misdirected and utterly pointless: the relatives and kinsmen of Soros are dead and cannot be resuscitated. Somebody should tell this 90 years old man that it is year 2015 and sadly, there are almost no Jews left in Hungary and in Eastern Europe to save.

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  57. @Talpiot
    The Open Society Foundations funds anti-Israel activism, pro-Palestinian causes, and participates (as much as possible) in the BDS boycott movement against Israel.

    OSF is a primary funder of Human Rights Watch, whose Jewish president is monomaniaclly obsessed with Israeli human rights violations.

    I hate to break it to you guys, but this idea you all have that "the Jews" are all working together to destroy the rest of the world while preserving Israel is basically nonsense. The Left, Jewish and non-Jewish, doesn't like Israel or any moderately well-off nation-state.

    I'm writing to you as a non-Jew living in Israel.

    [whose Jewish president is monomaniaclly obsessed with Israeli human rights violations]

    No, he isn’t. He spends much more time on Russian “human rights violations”, as well as those of all other potential obstacles to US foreign policy.

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  58. The mogul downplayed Republican mega-donor Paul Singer’s recent endorsement of Rubio, saying that some candidates might not even want his endorsement and that voters will have reservations about Singer as they learn more about him. “People are going to say, ‘Whoa, we didn’t know that,’” predicted Trump. Singer, a vocal advocate of Israel and gay marriage, has identified himself as a Goldwater conservative.

    See what I mean? Phony leftists. “Why, yes, I’m a liberal Afrikaaner-American; I support the American civil rights movement, homosexual ‘marriage,’ open borders for America, closed borders for South Africa, and the Apartheid regime.”

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